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Title: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, July 16, 2021, 07:09:33
I know the Lee Power thread is there for all the takeover chat and at the risk of becoming the new Audrey I'm preparing a thread for when we get the green light from the EFL and we can get behind Mr Morfuni, the new manager, players, staff etc. We face a tough season but if the fans can come together as one, the CG with fans can be a glorious place to go and watch football.

Dare I pre-empt a Friday statement?? (And no, I am not ITK :) )


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, July 16, 2021, 09:14:12
The Adver via the Trust say its close.

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/19445328.clem-morfuni-complete-efl-fit-proper-persons-test-imminently-say-trust/


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, July 16, 2021, 09:17:25
The Adver via the Trust say its close.

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/19445328.clem-morfuni-complete-efl-fit-proper-persons-test-imminently-say-trust/

That's just rehashing what was said on Talk Bollocks yesterday, this bit was more worrying

'though the transfer of shares does not appear to be close at this point'


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JBZ on Friday, July 16, 2021, 09:20:28
Good to see Geoff the Ref adding to the debate


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Pookemon on Friday, July 16, 2021, 09:39:14
I know the Lee Power thread is there for all the takeover chat and at the risk of becoming the new Audrey I'm preparing a thread for when we get the green light from the EFL and we can get behind Mr Morfuni, the new manager, players, staff etc. We face a tough season but if the fans can come together as one, the CG with fans can be a glorious place to go and watch football.

Dare I pre-empt a Friday statement?? (And no, I am not ITK :) )

Fucking optimist  :D


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Grim Reaper on Friday, July 16, 2021, 19:28:01
Maybe just for balance you should start a separate thread along the lines of EFL reject Clems application/ Clem walks away etc. Just in case!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Nemo on Friday, July 16, 2021, 20:22:33
Maybe just for balance you should start a separate thread along the lines of EFL reject Clems application/ Clem walks away etc. Just in case!

I think you're sitting on the perfect account to start that thread, to be honest.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Sunday, July 18, 2021, 09:26:15
Fucking optimist  :D

Yeah that didn't go as well as I anticipated :)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: MichaelPook on Sunday, July 18, 2021, 10:27:33
MONDAY MONDAY!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Sunday, July 18, 2021, 10:36:34
MONDAY MONDAY!
Lets hope its not a 'blue' one. Guess it could be a 'manic' one. But, 'I don't like mondays'.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Sunday, July 18, 2021, 10:52:38
Lets hope its not a 'blue' one. Guess it could be a 'manic' one. But, 'I don't like mondays'.

Tell me why.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Grim Reaper on Sunday, July 18, 2021, 11:31:42
It will be Monday. Failing that possibly Tuesday. If not definitely Wednesday. Could be Thursday buy hey we’re all a sucker for a statement Friday right?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Crackity Jones on Sunday, July 18, 2021, 11:33:47
And it could be this week, next week, next month etc


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, July 18, 2021, 11:47:00
It will be Monday. Failing that possibly Tuesday. If not definitely Wednesday. Could be Thursday buy hey we’re all a sucker for a statement Friday right?

Quite.

You'd have to be an employee of the EFL to have definitive 'knowledge' right now. Frustrating that we are seemingly at the mercy of the 9-5esque EFL office hours

If people are hearing stuff then it stems from ITKers saying 'it should' or 'we hope'.

Morfuni/Trust/STFC won't delay announcements once it's been approved and shares have been transferred. We've all suffered quite enough.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Grim Reaper on Sunday, July 18, 2021, 11:50:34
Wonder when it’s all completed they have enough time to launch season tickets. Not even sure we’ve a kit lined up for next season. Guess we start next season with last seasons kit with Imagine Cruising removed.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Sunday, July 18, 2021, 11:54:48
Wonder when it’s all completed they have enough time to launch season tickets. Not even sure we’ve a kit lined up for next season. Guess we start next season with last seasons kit with Imagine Cruising removed.

Indeed, the list of things Clem has to do is lengthy and obviously will be harder to do the longer the process takes. That said I'm confident a lot of the behind the scenes legwork has already been done and will be good to go as soon as he gets the green light.

My main concern are things like Insurance and safety certificates etc that may hinder us being able to play any matches, that obviously will result in points and financial punishments. We can play in plain red t shirts as far as I'm concerned, I just want the important things ready. A manager and team would be helpful also.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Sunday, July 18, 2021, 11:56:54
It makes you wonder who would be choosing any new manager & staff behind the scenes as you would hope someone has been doing the ground work


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Grim Reaper on Sunday, July 18, 2021, 11:58:45
Luckily first 2 games are away, buys a little time to get The County Ground ready.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, July 18, 2021, 12:00:57
Wonder when it’s all completed they have enough time to launch season tickets. Not even sure we’ve a kit lined up for next season. Guess we start next season with last seasons kit with Imagine Cruising removed.

Luckily, the non-office staff haven't stopped. They've got lots of things ready to present to Morfuni's people for whenever the time comes (some of it simply requires the signature) and this includes ST, kits, commerical etc.

The less than 3 week turnaround is insane though. Going to be an intense month for many people behind the scenes.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Sunday, July 18, 2021, 12:04:47
Luckily, the non-office staff haven't stopped. They've got lots of things ready to present to Morfuni's people for whenever the time comes (some of it simply requires the signature) and this includes ST, kits, commerical etc.

The less than 3 week turnaround is insane though. Going to be an intense month for many people behind the scenes.

Yeah as I thought. These guys, that work like trojans behind the scenes by people who are not getting paid on time etc are the real heroes of the football club. The next month as you say is going to be hellish busy for them. Legends each and every one.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Grim Reaper on Sunday, July 18, 2021, 12:07:14
In my head is a Kevin Keegan voice saying “ I’d love it, I’d just love it if we tear up this league and win promotion at the first attempt “. Couldn’t think of a better UP YOURS to Lee Power than that.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, July 18, 2021, 12:13:48
In my head is a Kevin Keegan voice saying “ I’d love it, I’d just love it if we tear up this league and win promotion at the first attempt “. Couldn’t think of a better UP YOURS to Lee Power than that.
Absolutely, what a huge "fuck off Power" statement that would be.

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/753ca4af565db7b5b22e2c9cc2f8386f/tenor.gif)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Sunday, July 18, 2021, 12:18:39
Luckily, the non-office staff haven't stopped. They've got lots of things ready to present to Morfuni's people for whenever the time comes (some of it simply requires the signature) and this includes ST, kits, commerical etc.

The less than 3 week turnaround is insane though. Going to be an intense month for many people behind the scenes.

Just a thought about the intensity. As there will be so much to do in so little time, surely the more hands on deck we have the better? By this I mean there must be a wide range of skills or just effort available in the fanbase which could be offered to the club on a voluntary basis once the takeover is completed. In the past many fans have joined in clearing snow to get a match on.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Sunday, July 18, 2021, 12:19:27
Good shout


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Crackity Jones on Sunday, July 18, 2021, 12:32:41
Agreed. would be happy to take time off work to help out unpaid at STFC once there is an acceptable change in ownership


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Sunday, July 18, 2021, 12:38:01
Luckily, the non-office staff haven't stopped. They've got lots of things ready to present to Morfuni's people for whenever the time comes (some of it simply requires the signature) and this includes ST, kits, commerical etc.

The less than 3 week turnaround is insane though. Going to be an intense month for many people behind the scenes.

24/7 for a while I’d imagine.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: leftside on Sunday, July 18, 2021, 13:27:25
MONDAY MONDAY!
Freedom (from Power) Day?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Sunday, July 18, 2021, 14:21:29
MONDAY MONDAY!

Not helpful at all.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: PHIL!!!! on Monday, July 19, 2021, 10:28:32
Just a thought about the intensity. As there will be so much to do in so little time, surely the more hands on deck we have the better? By this I mean there must be a wide range of skills or just effort available in the fanbase which could be offered to the club on a voluntary basis once the takeover is completed. In the past many fans have joined in clearing snow to get a match on.

Great shout - I'd love to be involved in something like this.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Frigby Daser on Monday, July 19, 2021, 10:56:43
Let’s hope today is the day. It’s going to be very telling quite how much is lined up and ready to go, and to me, will be a good indicator of what lies ahead with the Axis ownership.

It should be a Big Bang. New senior appointments - manager, assistant, CEO, DoF (perhaps), and crucially, a glut of players in by the end of the week (triallists, loans and perms). They key is going to be flipping what currently looks like chaos / famine, into a positive - a new, energised club pulling towards a single goal.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Monday, July 19, 2021, 10:58:48
Is John McGreal still out of work as he could be a quick appointment


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, July 19, 2021, 11:14:55
Is John McGreal still out of work as he could be a quick appointment

I did wonder whether McGreal might be lined up as the new manager under a different contract. However I do also wonder whether McGreal may have been loyal to shady Lee and therefore won't work for STFC under a new ownership. Hopefully we may found out one way or another this week.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Monday, July 19, 2021, 11:16:45
If he did come back at least he would know what players are out there and maybe have them already lined up


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, July 19, 2021, 11:19:09
If he did come back at least he would know what players are out there and maybe have them already lined up

We can probably say the same about whoever else might be lined up.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, July 19, 2021, 11:19:26
If he did come back at least he would know what players are out there and maybe have them already lined up

Indeed, the ones that haven't signed for other clubs already that is.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Kinky Tom on Monday, July 19, 2021, 11:20:09
Let’s hope today is the day. It’s going to be very telling quite how much is lined up and ready to go, and to me, will be a good indicator of what lies ahead with the Axis ownership.

It should be a Big Bang. New senior appointments - manager, assistant, CEO, DoF (perhaps), and crucially, a glut of players in by the end of the week (triallists, loans and perms). They key is going to be flipping what currently looks like chaos / famine, into a positive - a new, energised club pulling towards a single goal.

I've not hit the panic button yet, I'm confident this is going through and plenty of important appointments and decisions will be made immediately too. 

We are behind, nobody is doubting that but assuming all monies owed to allow us to come out from our embargo are paid I think we can expect an exciting, if frantic, few weeks. 

There are without question loads of free agents we'll have missed out on but equally there are loads of players at clubs looking to leave either on loan or permanently, these players will have been training with their clubs so will be as fit as any other L2 players currently with their respective squads.

As far as tactics and unity go we will still be behind but there is still time to cobble a decent squad together, we have until 02/09 to sign attached players, unattached players can still be brought in after, there always seems to be a few released on deadline day so still a decent resource.

If we get a couple of, on paper, good L2 players we'll start to look like a promising place to be and confidence from a players perspective will rise.  We have shown consistently that we are a big club at L2 level and with the crowds coming back (fingers crossed) in a post-Power era there should be a decent atmosphere.

I'm not expecting to hit the ground running but if we are stable enough through to January then we could be in with a chance, Wellens had a good Jan in his first season and came close to flirting with the play-offs, Bolton were nowhere near going into January last season and got automatic promotion on the last day.

It'll be difficult and will take one hell of an effort to get us going but I have faith we can do it, even a mid-table finish should be seen as a success given our current position, we really need the fans onside from the get go, even if it is a tough start.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Monday, July 19, 2021, 11:22:37
Of course :pint: like at school when two captains had to take it in turns picking a player to make their team up leaving players like Roland from Grange Hill last😀


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Power to people on Monday, July 19, 2021, 14:30:31
Is John McGreal still out of work as he could be a quick appointment

Lets hope not, I'm sure Clem would like his own appointment rather than who Power appointed


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Arriba on Monday, July 19, 2021, 17:45:15
If we're still in the football league this time next year then we'd have done well. Putting a side together this late is far from ideal. Not to mention whether the club will even exist or not which isn't a given.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Townend80 on Tuesday, July 20, 2021, 11:37:40
Hearing Clem will be at the game tonight. Told been in country for last 2 days. Love to think it’s true


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, July 20, 2021, 11:39:20
Hearing Clem will be at the game tonight. Told been in country for last 2 days. Love to think it’s true

If true that's surely positive news? I doubt he would be in the country if the takeover wasn't going to be ratified. Hopefully he is here to sign the relevant paperwork and get the business off and running.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JanAirplaneMan on Tuesday, July 20, 2021, 11:41:38
This isnt the case I am afraid as he cant fly outside of Aus, not until next year.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, July 20, 2021, 11:45:40
This isnt the case I am afraid as he cant fly outside of Aus, not until next year.

Thanks for the clarity. Presumably he has a representative that can do whatever is needed to be done?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Boy About Town on Tuesday, July 20, 2021, 11:47:25
This isnt the case I am afraid as he cant fly outside of Aus, not until next year.

Why?  :sherlock:


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JanAirplaneMan on Tuesday, July 20, 2021, 11:48:00
Yes he has people and lawyers in the UK


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, July 20, 2021, 11:49:34
Yes he has people and lawyers in the UK

Any idea when we will have news?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, July 20, 2021, 11:54:12
Why?  :sherlock:

Not sure if your question was serious but because of Covid there is nothing going in and out of Australia. My wife's sister lives in Sydney and says Australia only has a pathetic 9% of the population vaccinated so they are beyond slow! (Like the EFL!)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, July 20, 2021, 13:32:39
BBC Wilts understands that Shares have been transferred. Our season begins now :)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: PHIL!!!! on Tuesday, July 20, 2021, 13:45:05
BBC Wilts understands that Shares have been transferred. Our season begins now :)

 :beers:


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Gnasher on Tuesday, July 20, 2021, 13:45:49
 :pint:


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, July 20, 2021, 13:48:46
If we don't have a manager and Chief Exec in place by 5pm Morfuni Out!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: That Nestor Lorenzo Heade on Tuesday, July 20, 2021, 13:49:04
YES!!!

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/19455700.swindon-town-ownership-battle-said-clem-morfuni-takes-control/


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, July 20, 2021, 13:49:21
So pleased.  New chapter begins.  And boy, do we need a new chapter.  The last one was rubbish.

And Lee Power - if you love the game of football, do it a massive favour, pls.  And never go near another club again.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: digby on Tuesday, July 20, 2021, 22:50:32
This isnt the case I am afraid as he cant fly outside of Aus, not until next year.

  :no: I met him myself at the Supermarine game, and apparently he arrived on sunday - so why the false info ? smokescreen ?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, July 20, 2021, 22:53:20
Fair question


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: @MacPhlea on Tuesday, July 20, 2021, 22:55:24
  :no: I met him myself at the Supermarine game, and apparently he arrived on sunday - so why the false info ? smokescreen ?

There was work to be done - if it was known generally that he was here then it would have potentially generated a distraction to getting the job done…


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, July 20, 2021, 23:03:38
Better off not saying anything then rather being informative


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, July 20, 2021, 23:43:31
  :no: I met him myself at the Supermarine game, and apparently he arrived on sunday - so why the false info ? smokescreen ?

Think things were on a 'need to know' basis. I wouldn't read too much into it.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, July 20, 2021, 23:59:42
Think things were on a 'need to know' basis. I wouldn't read too much into it.

When’s he due on the Pod Rich?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 07:26:25
Quote from: @MacPhlea
There was work to be done - if it was known generally that he was here then it would have potentially generated a distraction to getting the job done…
How?

Either the trust board weren't told, not a great start on openness from Clem.

Or they lied/breakdown in communication. not a great start on openness from them.

to be honest it's done now. it doesn't much matter, and they did correct themselves on Twitter.

what matters is going forward. I think we need to give everyone some slack to get on with getting the job done in these first couple of months, then I'd expect to see more open communication.

hopefully some announcements today. CEO, manager etc??!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Pookemon on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 07:56:16
How is Clem not being open - he attended a game and took questions?
I don't really care where he is at any given point in time, or who he told, that's his business and idle gossip.

What we do need is openness around the decisions made on behalf of the club and the accounts etc, not an announcement every time he has a shit.

 


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 07:59:44
Once the new owner euphoria dies down I don't want to keep seeing him mixing with fans etc I want him quietly going about his business with regularly updates through media outlets and the odd live phone in on BBC Wilts etc.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 08:02:27
If he takes us forward and runs the club correctly he can run naked through Old Town with the GW Reds for all I care.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 08:08:36
Quote from: Jimmy Quinn
Once the new owner euphoria dies down I don't want to keep seeing him mixing with fans etc I want him quietly going about his business with regularly updates through media outlets and the odd live phone in on BBC Wilts etc.

he'll be in Australia a lot of the time. The CEO appointment will be key


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 08:10:26
We just need to knuckle down now and let Clem appoint the right people to take care of business!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 08:20:24
  :no: I met him myself at the Supermarine game, and apparently he arrived on sunday - so why the false info ? smokescreen ?
He has been bitten by fans here already recording bits and giving out info when they shouldn't. I imagine he genuinely didn't tell many people at all he was coming over to avoid getting hopes up


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 08:51:38
How?

Either the trust board weren't told, not a great start on openness from Clem.

Or they lied/breakdown in communication. not a great start on openness from them.

to be honest it's done now. it doesn't much matter, and they did correct themselves on Twitter.

what matters is going forward. I think we need to give everyone some slack to get on with getting the job done in these first couple of months, then I'd expect to see more open communication.

hopefully some announcements today. CEO, manager etc??!

I'm sorry to pick this up (it was the first post I saw when I checked this AM and it resonated with thoughts last night) as you rightly say its over now, but why does/did Clem need to confirm his every movement with the Trust, it's not like it was some joint consortium with the Trust taking over merely they were supporting him and thus to a greater or lessor degree were ITK.

I note from SM last night there seemed to be a hell of a lot of people who knew it was happening yesterday or today, which merely came across as a bit of back covering mystic Meg sort of shenanigans 'I obviously knew what was happening I just couldn't tell you'.

Its done now, moving forward along with the process lets get a CEO and manager in place and they can start to sort out the footballing and business sides in parallel, it would be nice for Clem to formalise some manner of engagement with the Trust just to provide updates as and when but generally they need time to just get on with it.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Power to people on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 09:26:13
Agree, he needs to start as he mean to go on, will full openness and transparency which I actually believe he will, I'm hoping this goes as far as transfer fee's for e.g. as well, unless the other club don't want it out in public, but then we can be given a ball park figure.

You hope communication goes from top to bottom, so from Clem to his CeO to the new manager, even the DoF.

I don't want all communication going through the new board he is creating with the Trust and Don Rogers, I want staff to be communicating through the press, the web site, in interviews etc

It is essential that the fans feel respected and listened to, this will help the feel good factor return and will help matters on the pitch as it is going to be a season of struggle but if fans are behind the club it will help in those real tough games.

It will also help for sponsorship, I believe the club does not have a marketing dept any more so staff will need to be appointed, but if fans are behind the club then that feel good factor will spread and local companies will be more willing to put money in for sponsorship

There is also the FA & FL investigations yet to complete, we need to hope the club does not get punished by either of them, not sure when they are likely to conclude, maybe sometime after the court case is completed, although knowing how slow the FA / FL are it maybe just in time for next season.



Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Leggett on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 09:30:40
Can you imagine how much more 'IS IT DONE YET?!?! WHY IS IT TAKING SO LONG?!?!' there would've been had we known he was in the country from Sunday? No harm done at all, people clutching their pearls unnecessarily...


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: kaufman on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 11:21:01
This is probably laughable but were the club still giving the option to sign up to receive official texts about news direct from the club?
Would be nice not having to trawl through social media and just receive a text straight from the koalas mouth.
Was anyone receiving texts this past year before it all hit the fan?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 11:56:12
It didn't take look for some people to look for the next thing to moan about - now it's "why didn't we know he was coming/why did the Trust lie?" - I think that answers your question right there..

I was aware of people that had been informed that he was coming in - but what benefit would it have brought to have that out in the public domain?  The fanbase was already in the reoccurring loop of "when is it happening > tomorrow > it didn't happen tomorrow, you are bullshitting ITK'er > when is it happening > it's imminent > sick of hearing it's imminent > When is it happening?"

It would have just been another case of rinse and repeat..

Just enjoy the fact that Power has gone and look forward to the next few weeks of hopefully getting our club back on track - as a fanbase we can sometimes be guilty of disecting things down to a granular level.  I get that everyone has become exhausted by the past year of no information or clarity, but let's stop for a minute, breath and enjoy talking about football again.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 12:19:14
I think the point is being overblown, as I said it's what happens next that matters.

however, why bother taking the effort to refute it?

it doesn't matter much. let's move on


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 12:52:57
I miss Audrey  :( .He'd be having a field day.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 12:55:03
I miss Audrey  :( .He'd be having a field day.
Or even a picnic ;)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Private Fraser on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 13:06:48
Maybe he's away getting that tattoo  ;D


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 14:19:35
When’s he due on the Pod Rich?

Haha. My focus will be on the CEO and if Clem wants to appear at any point then he'd be welcome.

For what it's worth. I got wind that Morfuni was in the country via the 'Clem Texters' sending cryptic DMs to people because they can't help themselves.

Members of the Trust, including the lads who run the socials, simply did not know that he was coming into the country.

His attendance at Supermarine could have been reliant on the EFL approval coming through etc.

Completely blown out of proportion.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: kaufman on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 14:28:01
https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2021/july/club-statement/
There you go. It's a wonderful read. Lets hope it comes to fruition.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 14:32:29
Good read.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: tans on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 14:35:18
Brilliant statement


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: welshred on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 14:35:44
I mean if you're looking for a certain sentiment in a statement from your brand new owner, that pretty much hits the nail on the fucking head.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Samdy Gray on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 14:41:05
Well, he talks the talk. Time will tell if he walks the walk.

See: Fred Elliot re: Simon Cox http://thetownend.com/index.php?topic=23492.0


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: RWB Robin on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 14:43:23
That is a vision statement. It tells us what his vision is for the club, but it's grounded in the reality we are in - no false or wild promises. It can only be good.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: wazzared on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 14:45:15
A wonderful statement - we're all behind you Clem!  ;D


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Crackity Jones on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 14:47:58
 A statement on a Wednesday. Is he not aware of tradition? Clem out  :D  Great read and rallying cry to the fans. Onwards and hopefully upwards
 Let's make sure we pack out the CG. COYR
 


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Trini on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 14:48:40
How refreshing it is to read something realistic, positive and inspiring.

This is only the start but for the first time in 15 months I’m looking forward to following the club that I’m hopelessly in love with.

Here’s hoping that the fans noe return in their droves and support a new era.

#COYRs #inClemwetrust #nomoreliesfrompower ❤️🤍❤️🤍❤️🤍


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 14:53:12
A very positive first statement. Pulls no punches with the challenge yet is ambitious and realistic.

Let's hope things stay that way, I suspect they might. I like the cut of his gib.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Ticker45 on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 14:53:23
Quite happy with that statement, reads well at this juncture. Off we jolly well go once again.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: singingiiiffy on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 14:54:52
It didn't take look for some people to look for the next thing to moan about - now it's "why didn't we know he was coming/why did the Trust lie?" - I think that answers your question right there..

I was aware of people that had been informed that he was coming in - but what benefit would it have brought to have that out in the public domain?  The fanbase was already in the reoccurring loop of "when is it happening > tomorrow > it didn't happen tomorrow, you are bullshitting ITK'er > when is it happening > it's imminent > sick of hearing it's imminent > When is it happening?"

It would have just been another case of rinse and repeat..

Just enjoy the fact that Power has gone and look forward to the next few weeks of hopefully getting our club back on track - as a fanbase we can sometimes be guilty of disecting things down to a granular level.  I get that everyone has become exhausted by the past year of no information or clarity, but let's stop for a minute, breath and enjoy talking about football again.

heres another thing to moan about. turnover is vanity profit is sanity. not sure why he brought it up in his statement

apart from that  8) got to love what he has to say and you just hope that this might be the start of something good. its going to be an exciting few weeks of news and a very busy period for the club. looking forward to a minimum top 7 challenge  :beers:


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 14:59:25
If you do go in the Town End Clem, don't stand downwind of The Flash  :)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Private Fraser on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 15:05:30
It’s a good statement and presses all the right buttons for me. It’s going to take a long time and a lot of money and effort but it could be an interesting ride. Looking forward to seeing how it goes. My first season was 62/63 and have seen lots of highs and lows in that time. Hoping for another ‘high’.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 15:06:09
Well, if he does half of that he'll be the best owner the club's ever had. The very best of luck to him.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 15:17:10
https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2021/july/club-statement/
There you go. It's a wonderful read. Lets hope it comes to fruition.

Wow, what a statement of intent that was. I love this guy already.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 15:18:19
Who’s Zavier Austin?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: swindonmaniac on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 15:18:43
Superb read,  at least communicating with the fans and on the face of it, it all sounds good.  Happy we're over the first hurdle, can't really see him in standing in the Town End handing out prawn sandwiches at half time but like the idea.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 15:19:35
Who’s Zavier Austin?

He was here under Power

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/13585526.town-appoint-three-new-non-executive-directors/


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 15:23:16
Who’s Zavier Austin?

Here he is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xavier_Austin


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Ardiles on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 15:24:28
Great statement of intent.  So refreshing.  Ambitious yet measured/grounded.

Club's been punching below it's weight for most of the 30 yrs I've been following it.  Handicapped by poor leadership/ownership.  We've been the poster child for badly run, lower league clubs since well before Power came on the scene.  Give us 5 to 10 yrs of stability...just doing the simple things properly & astutely, and we're going to fly.  It's time.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: stfcjack on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 15:25:55
Wow what a statement, I am absolutely ready to fall in love with this football club all over again.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 15:29:04
Wow what a statement, I am absolutely ready to fall in love with this football club all over again.

He’s mine I tell you, mine. Go anywhere near him you bitch and I’ll scratch your eyes out.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 15:29:25
Clem is doing a press conference at the CG tomorrow at 4. I assume (makes an ass of u and me) with the new manager as well possibly?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 15:31:47
heres another thing to moan about. turnover is vanity profit is sanity. not sure why he brought it up in his statement

Yeah, I had a wry smile at it, although I suppose its shows some clout and if you have built up that sort of company from very little brag all you like.

Watch the EFL now clobber us with a points deduction....


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Summerof69 on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 15:35:23
Clem is doing a press conference at the CG tomorrow at 4. I assume (makes an ass of u and me) with the new manager as well possibly?

Well at least his new Chief Exec. That's going to be the most important that the moment so sort out all the crap...


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 15:36:08
Well at least his new Chief Exec. That's going to be the most important that the moment so sort out all the crap...

Yes true.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 15:40:19
Surely the men at work classic man down under needs to be played loudly over the PA system (if that's feasibly possible at the CG) prior to kick off of home games this season?

I'm sure the Town End will also come up with some brilliant Clem inspired songs as well.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 15:46:47
Quote from: Bob's Orange
Surely the men at work classic man down under needs to be played loudly over the PA system (if that's feasibly possible at the CG) prior to kick off of home games this season?

I'm sure the Town End will also come up with some brilliant Clem inspired songs as well.

it was yesterday at Supermarine.

he did smile, no vegimite sandwich on offer though


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JanAirplaneMan on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 15:47:06
Well at least his new Chief Exec. That's going to be the most important that the moment so sort out all the crap...
New CEO will be announced and introduced at press conference yes.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 15:50:44
it was yesterday at Supermarine.

he did smile, no vegimite sandwich on offer though

 :D


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 15:51:46
A fantastic statement and a bold one. Let's hope it all comes true. Love the financial transparency bit as that's where the trust will be built between club and fans.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: RedRag on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 16:01:58
A beautiful statement.

I could be about to become a Morfuni Moonie.  Certainly a proud fan once again.

Nice to read a statement without the lies surrounding intermittent "Well Shaun"s.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 16:04:03
heres another thing to moan about. turnover is vanity profit is sanity. not sure why he brought it up in his statement


Agree with that completely :D


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 16:08:55
Surely the men at work classic man down under needs to be played loudly over the PA system (if that's feasibly possible at the CG) prior to kick off of home games this season?

I'm sure the Town End will also come up with some brilliant Clem inspired songs as well.

I did post yesterday that Supermarine were making him feel welcome with that song over the PA.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 16:28:22
Very impressed and also very impressed with the new CEO too.

A really forward thinking excellent appointment IMO.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 16:34:26
Very impressed and also very impressed with the new CEO too.

A really forward thinking excellent appointment IMO.

Who is it? Didn't see it mentioned by name anywhere.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Red Frog on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 16:41:17
Hope people's bubbles don't burst if we make a slow start on the pitch. They need to remember how little time we're going to have to prepare this campaign. We'll need to keep the faith, hold Clem to those bold promises and hope that it all comes good in the medium term.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 16:42:27
Very impressed and also very impressed with the new CEO too.

A really forward thinking excellent appointment IMO.

It's Jeff Bezos isn't it?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Red Frog on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 16:43:34
It's Jeff Bezos isn't it?

It's a woman isn't it.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 16:45:26
Quote from: Peter Venkman
Very impressed and also very impressed with the new CEO too.

A really forward thinking excellent appointment IMO.

tease


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Crackity Jones on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 16:48:51
Is it Bathford?


Title: Re: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 16:51:17
We'll need to keep the faith, hold Clem to those bold promises and hope that it all comes good in the medium term.

Yes hold him to them, but also fans need not to be pricks about things. The first year at least is going to be constant fire fighting and there are going to be decisions which probably won't sit entirely within his laudable words.

Club and fans need to learn to love each other again, faults and all.



Sent from my SM-A125F


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 16:52:56
It's a woman isn't it.

Of course!! Cheri Lunghi


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 16:55:03
Of course!! Cheri Lunghi

No, no, no.  Managers job has gone, Lynda Block.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Red Frog on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 17:07:39
No, no, no.  Managers job has gone, Lynda Block.

No, surely this is the time for Sheena Easton.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Power to people on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 17:11:25
Haha. My focus will be on the CEO and if Clem wants to appear at any point then he'd be welcome.

For what it's worth. I got wind that Morfuni was in the country via the 'Clem Texters' sending cryptic DMs to people because they can't help themselves.

Members of the Trust, including the lads who run the socials, simply did not know that he was coming into the country.

His attendance at Supermarine could have been reliant on the EFL approval coming through etc.

Completely blown out of proportion.

I know some fans like the idea of having the ear of the owner, but these clem texters need to stop, there will be a lot of p'd off fans if this continues as they will inevitably leak anything he tells them like how the name of the new manager was being bandied about before the bookies had even go wind of it, I thought this had been sorted when previously he was recorded talking to fans.

Nothing against anyone who has his number and clem responds but there is a thin line between talking football and leaking private chats and info.

He is now the owner of stfc and things will be different.

This is not the first time I've heard the fans that have his number bigging themselves up (or some of them, I think there are a few).

Sorry to be a bit negative, it just annoys me a little.

Now back to the celebrations.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Hunk on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 17:13:28
Today has been delightful. I wasn’t aware how much genuine stress this whole ownership saga has caused me until it became clear it’s resolved, feels like a weight has been lifted off my shoulders.

I’m perfectly happy to give Ben Garner my full support. His time at Rovers was obviously a torrid one, but he is clearly a considered choice and hopefully one that’ll fit right into the philosophy that Clem appears very keen on bringing to the club. By all accounts he’s a very highly considered coach. It goes without saying that the last time we had a ‘highly considered coach’ at the helm it turned out to be a disaster but that was working under a completely different regime, so I won’t be comparing the two going forward.

Happy happy happy


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: flammableBen on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 17:15:09
All positive stuff so far. I've spangled a bit too much money this month on booze, powder and fanny. Reckon clem could shout me a few 100 notes to help with the rent at the end of the month? I think that would really be the statement of intent that the fans could get behind.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 17:19:16
I think you and your dealer might have to come to an arrangement this month. I expect that SBC and the rent on the CG might take precedence before your rent gets a consideration.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 17:31:05
Ben can just sell some of his clothes, he doesn't always need them.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Super Hans on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 17:48:15
Win lose or draw that first game at The County Ground is something i cannot wait for. Turned a bit of a blind eye to everything related to the club in the past few weeks but now feel like Tom Hanks in Castaway at the end where he sits down at the table for a huge feast.

Welcome Clem and co.

"We'll keep the red flag flying high, cause Swindon Town will never die".


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: bathford on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 17:58:47
Do we now need to learn the words to ‘Advance Australia Fare’?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Super Hans on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 18:09:27
Not sure if mentioned but I hope Lee Peacock and Steve Mildenhall still have a role at the club. Maybe more understandable for Mildy as a Swindon lad but Peacs has shown a proper love for this club ever since he left.

Bit of a club legend for me.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 18:11:39
Not sure if mentioned but I hope Lee Peacock and Steve Mildenhall still have a role at the club. Maybe more understandable for Mildy as a Swindon lad but Peacs has shown a proper love for this club ever since he left.

Bit of a club legend for me.

Mildenhall is name checked in the press release as staying as goalkeeper coach.

Peacock not mentioned, but no reason to expect he won't go back to his role with the u18s.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 18:14:41
The new CEO is a man who many (if not most) Town fans know, he has been introduced to staff already as the new CEO and its a very good appointment IMO, I feel almost every fan will probably be impressed with him.

I won't blow his cover by announcing it ahead the official announcement but have told a couple of people on here and I am sure it will come out before the official announcement tomorrow anyway.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Ardiles on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 18:17:21
...but Peacs has shown a proper love for this club ever since he left.

Bit of a club legend for me.

Definitely.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 18:17:59
Devlin?

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Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 18:30:28
If it's Wray or Fitton someone needs to make sure there is a dual signature required on cheques and contracts.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 18:42:15
If it's Wray or Fitton someone needs to make sure there is a dual signature required on cheques and contracts.

I see 10,000 average attendance this season.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Ardiles on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 18:49:45
I've had my first glass of wine this evening, so I agree with you.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 19:08:33
 :soapy tit wank:

When do the tickets if we're allocated any fir scunny go on sale?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Tails on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 19:12:31
Peacock did have another job lined up so he must've bailed on it to stay here. Even more admirable.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 19:23:40
If it's Wray or Fitton someone needs to make sure there is a dual signature required on cheques and contracts.

Wasn’t one of them deeply involved with Hungerford?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 19:26:32
If it's Wray or Fitton someone needs to make sure there is a dual signature required on cheques and contracts.
I always thought Fitton was ultra-conservative (some might say sensible) and it was nice guy Jeremy who spent money like confetti?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 19:43:06
Fitton has some good ideas, but if Reg were still around I am sure he'd have to mention how Fitton was responsible for the disbanding of the AGM and diluting the fans shareholdings, which ultimately engineered the situation to where we find ourselves today I guess.  Wray was indeed the spunk it up the wall chap, although I think Fitton did alright out of the Charlie Austin deal didn't he?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 19:45:46
Fitton has some good ideas, but if Reg were still around I am sure he'd have to mention how Fitton was responsible for the disbanding of the AGM and diluting the fans shareholdings, which ultimately engineered the situation to where we find ourselves today I guess.  Wray was indeed the spunk it up the wall chap, although I think Fitton did alright out of the Charlie Austin deal didn't he?

I led to understand he did do ok.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Frigby Daser on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 19:52:36
Devlin?

Sent from my SM-A125F

He’s still at Huddersfield. That would be quite a coup. Perhaps not! Nicky Hammond is out of work….


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Kinky Tom on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 19:53:16
Digby?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 19:54:00
Digby?

Didn’t he do Powers bidding to get the training ground?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Kinky Tom on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 19:58:47
He's been involved with marketing and other things, I think you're right about a role in the Highworth project.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 19:59:34
Just finished playing football at Foundation Park, who walks onto the pitch to play after us? Welcome Mr Clem Morfuni.  This morning I bought a football club, this evening I am playing football.

Fair play..


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Kinky Tom on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 20:00:55
Brilliant stuff.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Abrahammer on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 20:03:27
I see 10,000 average attendance this season.

I know we are all happy campers today but there is absolutely no chance of that happening




Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: tans on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 20:08:31
Was he any good at soccer though


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 20:20:13
The new CEO is a man who many (if not most) Town fans know, he has been introduced to staff already as the new CEO and its a very good appointment IMO, I feel almost every fan will probably be impressed with him.

I won't blow his cover by announcing it ahead the official announcement but have told a couple of people on here and I am sure it will come out before the official announcement tomorrow anyway.

OK OK I've worked out who it is.

It's Neil from the Office isn't it?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 20:27:50
I know we are all happy campers today but there is absolutely no chance of that happening




9,999 if you don’t then.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: RWB Robin on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 20:32:29
I'll hazard a guess at the return of Nick Watkins....generally very popular with fans, a very good CEO, though challenged by the di Canio episode, an STFC man through aand through, and he has remained much involved, via the Trust, in the moves to purchase the County Ground. He would be a very safe pair of hands.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 20:35:06
Blimey it is like being 8 again on Christmas Eve.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: ronnie21 on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 20:35:57
I'll hazard a guess at the return of Nick Watkins....generally very popular with fans, a very good CEO, though challenged by the di Canio episode, an STFC man through aand through, and he has remained much involved, via the Trust, in the moves to purchase the County Ground. He would be a very safe pair of hands.
Mark Isaacs


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 20:37:29
Jason Isaacs


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Mplanney on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 20:39:10
I'll hazard a guess at the return of Nick Watkins....generally very popular with fans, a very good CEO, though challenged by the di Canio episode, an STFC man through aand through, and he has remained much involved, via the Trust, in the moves to purchase the County Ground. He would be a very safe pair of hands.
I was just about to post the same Nick Watkins is my guess and would be an excellent appointment


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 21:01:39
Your all miles off.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 21:04:49
Your all miles off.

Michael Miles? He's dead, isn't he ...?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: swindonmaniac on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 21:07:05
I was just about to post the same Nick Watkins is my guess and would be an excellent appointment
Would be well happy if that were the case.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Ginginho on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 21:08:16
I can't wait for the first home game, it will be a brilliant atmosphere and my 5 year old lads first game :)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: swindonmaniac on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 21:09:57
Michael Miles? He's dead, isn't he ...?
No, that was Nicholas Parsons.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 21:10:03
Your all miles off.

Some one who is reliable with money and can be trusted ;)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 21:11:27
Michael Miles? He's dead, isn't he ...?

Yes but you’ll have to open the box to confirm that he took the money.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Grim Reaper on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 21:16:17
Your all miles off.

It’s Lee Power isn’t it?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 21:18:08
No, that was Nicholas Parsons.

Bong! :)

(If you're old enough to remember the Yes/No interlude)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 21:18:17
It’s Lee Power isn’t it?

Mrs. Lee Power.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Ginginho on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 21:18:32
Your all miles off.

It's Miles Jupp isn't it? That's a left field appointment!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 21:19:14
Yes but you’ll have to open the box to confirm that he took the money.


Bong! again :)

(If you're old enough to remember the Yes/No interlude)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 21:19:39

Bong! again :)

(If you're old enough to remember the Yes/No interlude)

Might be 😉😁


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: chalkies shorts on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 21:19:48
Some one who is reliable with money and can be trusted ;)
Rob angus


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 21:21:59
Don Rogers.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 21:22:38
It's Miles Jupp isn't it? That's a left field appointment!

I would love that, he’s hilarious.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 21:22:51
Fuck it, the penny has just dropped. Might be worth getting someone to go to the bookies for you…

Brian Hillier.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: tans on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 21:29:40
Nick Hammond, wants to come back to club that made his career


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 21:32:35
To be fair he's done a good job since claiming to be a goalkeeper


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Frigby Daser on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 21:33:04
Michael Doughty.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 21:44:40
Some one who is reliable with money and can be trusted ;)
Banbury hand feeding people here


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 21:45:42
soapy tit wank.

interesting appointment. very interesting


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 22:03:14
Banbury hand feeding people here

Either the penny has dropped or I’m massively wrong.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 22:08:14
Quote from: DV Canio
Quote
Banbury hand feeding people here
Either the penny has dropped or I’m massively wrong.

name that tune


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 22:15:20
Was he any good at soccer though

I only saw him warming up, I didn't hang around to watch him play.  I mean, I appreciate what he has done and all that, but..


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 22:16:30
I only saw him warming up, I didn't hang around to watch him play.  I mean, I appreciate what he has done and all that, but..

You aren’t one of the Great Western Stalkers then?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 22:19:33
You aren’t one of the Great Western Stalkers then?

No.  However Ginginho was there and I did see him tying his shoe laces for him and giving him a rub down - make of that what you will..


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 22:23:03
Either the penny has dropped or I’m massively wrong.

name that tune

Well assuming SR was being sincere about DOR dropping a hint - I’ve based my (probably wrong conclusion) off the fact it’s someone who can be TRUSTed?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: stfcjack on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 22:27:48
I played this evening at foundation park and couldn’t believe it when I saw Clem on the next pitch! Way to shy to go and speak to him but what a bloke! Saw him play in goal for part and pull off a cracker of a save


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 22:29:34
Well assuming SR was being sincere about DOR dropping a hint - I’ve based my (probably wrong conclusion) off the fact it’s someone who can be TRUSTed?

Maaaaayyybeeeee


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 22:30:53
I played this evening at foundation park and couldn’t believe it when I saw Clem on the next pitch! Way to shy to go and speak to him but what a bloke! Saw him play in goal for part and pull off a cracker of a save

The only thing I noticed was he had a way better tan than anyone else out there..


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: stfcjack on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 22:35:01
I forgot his name but this suggests the chap who is the chairman of the trust, he was with him at the Supermarine game


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: RWB Robin on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 22:35:33
Well assuming SR was being sincere about DOR dropping a hint - I’ve based my (probably wrong conclusion) off the fact it’s someone who can be TRUSTed?
If then it is who is being hinted at, it sounds like a very interesting appointment.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 22:36:44
Maaaaayyybeeeee

I don’t really wanna know
How you garden grows

Or

...you’re gonna be the one that saves me
Coz after all, you’re my Wonderwall

??


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 22:39:57
I forgot his name but this suggests the chap who is the chairman of the trust, he was with him at the Supermarine game

Not the chairman, again going on what is purely guesswork on my part.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Riddick on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 22:47:33
I respect the work the Trust has done but not sure I'd be impressed with the appointment of one them. The role is so vital I would have liked it to be someone with experience in running a club at some level. No offence to members of the Trust. It seems people are hinting at what to me, seems to have been the least impressive Trust member I have seen speak. Wait and see I guess.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 22:48:38
It would be quite a statement regarding openness if somebody on the Trust board was made the CEO.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Riddick on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 22:52:23
There is a difference between openness and being a CEO and leading the club.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 22:58:25
There is a difference between openness and being a CEO and leading the club.

I said nothing about his ability to do the job. My point is that it would be quite a statement FROM CLEM about being open to go appointing a board member of the trust. Regardless of whether or not anybody thinks he's up to the job - he's still on the trust board.

And I wasn't replying to you anyway.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 23:01:16
Also would it be the right appointment for the club when there maybe more experienced candidates out there


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 23:15:59
Would they be able to stay on the Trust board*

*if the person in question is even on the trust board.

This could be a lot of hypothetical discussion over nothing.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: stfctownenda on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 04:59:47
If the CEO is the name I’m hearing from the trust he will be very astute appointment hes been operating at director level for years, he’s a brilliant communicator and would have great connections for sponsorships and link ups with other business's.  He’s also a huge Swindon fan, I’d be happy with his appointment.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: leftside on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 05:08:01
I'm sure the Town End will also come up with some brilliant Clem inspired songs as well.

Hopefully:

‘Owners, everybody needs good owners
With a little understanding
You can find the perfect blend
Owners, everybody needs good owners
We’ve got Morfuni, he’s Swindon’s friend’

‘Red Armyyyy, we travel up to Carlisle
Red Armyyy, we travel down to Sutton
Bringing all the noise we’re Swindon Town’

Hopefully not:

‘Cheap Aussie plumber
You’re just a cheap Aussie plumber’

Nor this one, which would have to be sung with a massive dose of hindsight:

‘Did you think we couldn’t see you coming
With your diggers and your plumber’s wrench?
You promised a lot but that was just rot
You’ve brought debt and a rotten stench’


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: ThreeDrawsMentality on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 05:59:36
If the CEO is the name I’m hearing from the trust he will be very astute appointment hes been operating at director level for years, he’s a brilliant communicator and would have great connections for sponsorships and link ups with other business's.  He’s also a huge Swindon fan, I’d be happy with his appointment.
James Phipps?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 06:02:02
Very funny that people clearly know who the new CEO is but are still treating it like a covert signing from a Premier League club.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Grim Reaper on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 06:17:27
Those not happy with the appointment can always get a petition to reinstate Steve Anderson.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 07:01:43
I'm hoping we have a reveal video like those Mansfield ones....


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: stfcjack on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 07:10:20
https://weareswindon.co.uk/james-phipps/


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 07:11:58
Well, I for one don't have a clue who it could be.
I read a couple of pages back Michael Doughty named, loved the club would love to see him come back.
If anyone wants to actually say that would be very much appreciated.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 07:12:10
Recommended to Clem via the trust.

Certainly knows how to make money. I know him and is house is huge. So if anyone wants to 'tarmac' his driveway....


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 07:13:33
His name has been mentioned over the last few pages…. And it’s not Miles Jupp.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 07:15:05
As for who the new CEO if it's who I've been told it is (and I have no reason to doubt it is)

a) It's Clems businesses so its his choice, considering what he has spent and the liabilities he inherits I cannot imagine he would appoint based on sentimentality.
b) Any link to the Trust is irrelevant it the guy has the skills to do the job.
c) Considering the fractured relationships to both the fan base but also the wider community appointing a known fan with great local business links (and the business acumen to be CEO) seems quite the well thought out masterstroke.
d) having read the guys bio he has, a job in the real world, I assume issues of him having to work notice from that have been addressed in some manner?

As with manager, DoF etc, once again seems to be a considered and thoughtful appointment based on ability rather than cronyism, which makes a nice change.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: kaufman on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 07:18:09
https://twitter.com/truststfc/status/1071033034315587589?s=21
My guess if it’s not Phipps.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 07:18:29
https://weareswindon.co.uk/james-phipps/

Well if it is this fella then I would tend to agree he is a very competent man indeed.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Riddick on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 07:20:59
Regardless, as with the coaching and on field staff, we get behind everyone appointed and get on with it.

Doesn't help that the name is not known, i reckon many are thinking about different people at this point.

Onwards and upwards!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Arriba on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 07:29:11
I'll be glad when it's made public who it is just to shut up the so called in the know individuals. Oooh look at me I know something but I'm not telling you. Hahahaha who gives a shit we'll all find out soon enough anyway.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: DiV on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 07:33:38
I'll be glad when it's made public who it is just to shut up the so called in the know individuals. Oooh look at me I know something but I'm not telling you. Hahahaha who gives a shit we'll all find out soon enough anyway.

They care obviously. No doubt enjoying the smugness that comes with it.

Fwiw my guess is James Phipps based on the Trusted comment and his previous / current employment status (based on a quick google)

Not ITK and purely guessing. Just didn’t want to be the first to put the name out as it hasn’t been mentioned up to that point.

It has now multiple times


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 07:38:52
I don't know who it is, but I'm not saying why I don't know. So there, go me.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 07:41:42
I am not claiming to know anything by the way i was just reading into Banburys post as thought it was cryptic. I will say one thing though is i know James Phipps relatively well and unless he goes back on his promise to never invest or work at the club he made to his wife i can't see that happening. He is a very successful businessman who wont want or do the day to day stuff answering to someone else  


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 07:43:16
A shame you're not saying why you don't know as now you've left me not knowing why you don't know😀


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: DiV on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 07:44:12
I’ve had several people PM me to tell me I am wrong.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 07:45:33
I’ve had several people PM me to tell me I am wrong.

But did they tell you the right answer?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: flammableBen on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 07:46:04
I’ve had several people PM me to tell me I am wrong.

Just in general?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 07:46:40
I am not claiming to know anything by the way i was just reading into Banburys post as thought it was cryptic. I will say one thing though is i know James Phipps relatively well and unless he goes back on his promise to never invest or work at the club he made to his wife i can't see that happening. He is a very successful businessman who wont want or do the day to day stuff answering to someone else  

Being the CEO is about dealing with the important stuff the chairman delegates to you and the less important stuff you delegate, however, you seem to be of the opinion that he won’t go near the club in that capacity so that is that.

We will know by lunchtime, in other words it is Christmas Day.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 07:47:02
A shame you're not saying why you don't know as now you've left me not knowing why you don't know😀

Classic.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Exiled Bob on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 07:47:38
I'll be glad when it's made public who it is just to shut up the so called in the know individuals. Oooh look at me I know something but I'm not telling you. Hahahaha who gives a shit we'll all find out soon enough anyway.
Seconded....


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 07:48:56
Just in general?

 :D


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: DiV on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 07:49:30
But did they tell you the right answer?

I was given the same name.
I couldn’t tell you if it’s the right answer though but assume it will be.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: DiV on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 07:50:10
Just in general?

I don’t think I’ve ever been wrong on TEF before, ever in history.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 07:50:31
I was given the same name.
I couldn’t tell you if it’s the right answer though but assume it will be.

And if it is not you could have told us. If it is you’re now formally in the smug ITK club.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: DiV on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 07:52:15
And if it is not you could have told us. If it is you’re now formally in the smug ITK club.

I’ve become everything I despise in a poster.

Wrong & smug.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 07:52:34
That has to be more applaudable than being in the TEF clique club😀


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 07:56:52
That is the TEF clique club


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Arriba on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 07:57:13
They care obviously. No doubt enjoying the smugness that comes with it.

Fwiw my guess is James Phipps based on the Trusted comment and his previous / current employment status (based on a quick google)

Not ITK and purely guessing. Just didn’t want to be the first to put the name out as it hasn’t been mentioned up to that point.

It has now multiple times

I'm sure they do care as they are Swindon supporters. In the know usually goes like 'here's what I know but I can't tell you who told me'. Not, 'I know but I'm not telling you'. I find the latter laughable. I don't care who it is to be honest. It'll be revealed soon enough anyway.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: DiV on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 07:58:31
Do the Borg shit? And if so out of what?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 08:00:25
Understand what you are saying Arriba, there seems to be a bit if self satisfaction going on. If someone thinks they know but is not going to suggest who it is then don't bother posting anything at all.



Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 08:01:25
I was given the same name.
I couldn’t tell you if it’s the right answer though but assume it will be.

Does the name you've been given full you with confidence?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: DiV on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 08:03:14
Does the name you've been given full you with confidence?

I literally know nothing about him other that’s what is on the Trust website

Goes without saying he hasn’t run a football club before.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 08:04:34
Do the Borg shit? And if so out of what?


Nah, nanites innit.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: DiV on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 08:05:03
Nah, nanites innit.

So, there is no such thing as a Borg Anus?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 08:05:32
So, there is no such thing as a Borg Anus?

I assume Bjorn has one. Certainly has enough pants to cover it.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: stfcjack on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 08:07:01
Someone is going to crack and tell us 😉


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Arriba on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 08:10:13
Understand what you are saying Arriba, there seems to be a bit if self satisfaction going on. If someone thinks they know but is not going to suggest who it is then don't bother posting anything at all.



That's it. The self satisfaction that they know stuff but not telling you anything except that they know stuff. It's been the same for the takeover/manager appointment etc. Not just the CEO. I find it funny


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 08:10:52
So, there is no such thing as a Borg Anus?

Maybe there's an anal implant?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 08:10:57
I wouldn’t openly say I knew for fear of all the negative stuff that comes with disseminating info on this thread, particularly as sensitive as this. Joining the dots together it became apparent, when speaking with people I know who would have a greater understanding of the complexities of this takeover and who do not frequent this forum or generally get involved with STFC that Clem either was or would be in the U.K. before the deal was announced. By how many days I was unclear but it was blindingly obvious that a deal was close and no way could I conceive that the big man was still in Australia orchestrating this from that far. Certainly when Friday came and went I think I knew it was imminent even when someone suggested that he couldn’t leave Australia, which I thought was a horse shit comment.

You identify the the jigsaw pieces and arrange them as best you can. He didn’t look jet lagged at Supermarine I can say that much.

Anyway irrespective of who the CEO is today and who knows or do not know they would have been thoroughly vetted and more than capable for this role.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JanAirplaneMan on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 08:22:06
You will all find out soon enough 😀 believe club are announcing new CEO at around 10am.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 08:23:19
You will all find out soon enough 😀 believe club are announcing new CEO at around 10am.

blimey! they aren't anging around are they!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: stfcjack on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 08:25:12
 :beers:


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 08:26:12
You will all find out soon enough 😀 believe club are announcing new CEO at around 10am.
Congratulations on your promotion James


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 08:27:02
Good luck to Callum Rice.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 08:28:15
Good luck to Callum Rice.

haha - that genuinely made me laugh!!


Title: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 08:31:09
Quote
Good luck to Callum Rice.
👏👏👏👏👏

,🐮


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: tans on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 08:33:28
Not Steve Murrall then?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 08:33:53
Good luck to Callum Rice.

Was he the guy with the mid life crisis haircut in Jeds little gang?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: china red on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 08:35:24
Surely if one of the trust was CEO they would have known Clem was in country

Surely it’s Watkins again. 


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Hunk on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 08:35:55
Was he the guy with the mid life crisis haircut in Jeds little gang?

Yeah. Think he owned a B&B


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Processed Beats on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 08:36:31
I’ll go for Rob Angus based on nothing but a few rumblings here and there.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: DiV on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 08:37:33
Borg Anus


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Tails on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 08:37:50
Loathed Strangers new sponsor and Rich is the CEO


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 08:40:39
Yeah. Think he owned a B&B

Hotel please.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2jHHvAXdow


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 08:41:31
haha - that genuinely made me laugh!!

 :D


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 08:46:10
BTW as we have appointed a DoF can we now assume that Jewell has left, it was never actually confirmed was it?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 08:50:55
Reminds me, I must watch Spinal Tap again.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Berniman on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 08:51:29
The thing i want to know is how do you go about joining this Clique that is mentioned and do you get a membership card? 


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 08:53:10
No card, but a special tattoo.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 08:55:01
No card, but a special tattoo.

with 'all the things you said' enscribed?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 08:56:56
No just ITK in chinese.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Kinky Tom on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 08:58:00
Etched into an image of your favourite cheese.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 08:59:18
Can we stop all of this fucking "I know something you don't know" and just post the fucking name.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Private Fraser on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 09:00:33
Can we stop all of this fucking "I know something you don't know" and just post the fucking name.

But it has been.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Shizzle on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 09:02:05
But it has been.
Quite a few times too


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: DiV on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 09:03:16
...and in anagram form


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Berniman on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 09:05:23
Is that tattoo scratched in using an old school compass point and indian ink, like the bad boy rebels did at school?  If so, how do i apply?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: swindonmaniac on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 09:08:32
That's it. The self satisfaction that they know stuff but not telling you anything except that they know stuff.
........... But I'm not allowed to tell you !!!!.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 09:12:57
It's 10.17 and nothing published.

Clem out. This is ridiculous.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: kaufman on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 09:14:28
What’s refreshing (no pun intended)
I’m visiting the official site for the announcement.
I’ve not done that in years.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: MichaelPook on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 09:19:16
I think the website will get refreshed more when they have someone employed again to do it


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: RedRag on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 09:24:20
Welcome to the new webmaster - and the 2 Bens

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 09:24:25
I think the website will get refreshed more when they have someone employed again to do it

They have obviously got someone pretty good on media now, as the statements of yesterday were really well written, also someone is doing socials albeit just to point back at the website?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 09:27:35
They have obviously got someone pretty good on media now, as the statements of yesterday were really well written, also someone is doing socials albeit just to point back at the website?
I understand that statement had been prepared a few weeks ago so it better have been good! :D


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Northernred82 on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 09:47:48
So When is the new CEO being confirmed?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 09:49:38
Rob Angus according to one twitter post  :sherlock:


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 09:53:36
So When is the new CEO being confirmed?
4pm today alongside Clem I understand is the set time.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: reeves4england on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 09:57:30
4pm today alongside Clem I understand is the set time.
5pm was the time given for the press conference by Total Sport Swindon after an original announcement of 4pm. Questions can be submitted here: https://twitter.com/TotalSportSwin/status/1417867727570669571

No dairy based questions submitted as yet I don't think.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 09:58:11
So When is the new CEO being confirmed?

I think the date of his acceptance into the catholic church is not relevant in this case?  :hmmm: ;)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: CMT82 on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 09:58:28
Presser is now 5pm. Good luck to whoever it is, hardly a tough act to follow given the minimal engagement we had from the last CEO. Exciting times.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 10:01:10
5pm was the time given for the press conference by Total Sport Swindon after an original announcement of 4pm. Questions can be submitted here: https://twitter.com/TotalSportSwin/status/1417867727570669571

No dairy based questions submitted as yet I don't think.
Cheers, last thing I heard was 4pm.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 10:02:35
5pm was the time given for the press conference by Total Sport Swindon after an original announcement of 4pm. Questions can be submitted here: https://twitter.com/TotalSportSwin/status/1417867727570669571

No dairy based questions submitted as yet I don't think.

I spotted favourite cheese there, the one I liked was 'If I sponsor the club will you let my cat play'?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Kinky Tom on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 10:10:52
https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2021/july/new-ceo-appointed/


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 10:14:06
https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2021/july/new-ceo-appointed/

Well, it's certainly a statement of intent for improving fan engagement, isn't it?

Easy to be cynical about it but it's certainly a positive sign. Don't know much about Rob Angus' background but there can be absolutely no doubt that he'll understand the fan's perspective.

A rare example of a footballing poacher turned gamekeeper!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 10:14:38
My source has been sacked.

Kick me out.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 10:15:47
Well, it's certainly a statement of intent for improving fan engagement, isn't it?

Easy to be cynical about it but it's certainly a positive sign. Don't know much about Rob Angus' background but there can be absolutely no doubt that he'll understand the fan's perspective.

A rare example of a footballing poacher turned gamekeeper!

He's been a director at Nationwide Building Society for years. His profile picture on the NBS intranet is him standing in Real Madrid's ground, wearing a Swindon top.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 10:16:53
He's been a director at Nationwide Building Society for years. His profile picture on the NBS intranet is him standing in Real Madrid's ground, wearing a Swindon top.

So you're saying we should be getting loanees in from Real Madrid any day now? I reckon Isco should do a job in League Two.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Arriba on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 10:17:45
Hooray. Now the ITK ones can not tell us the players they know we're going to sign....


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 10:18:12
Hooray. Now the ITK ones can not tell us the players they know we're going to sign....

:D


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 10:19:20
He might not have experience running a football club but, other than that, he does have bags of experience in business, finance, and managing teams of people. Could be a good appointment - and one that highlights Clem's commitment to openness. The Trust would be the enemy to shady characters, but Clem's literally put one of them on the board. That makes me feel a lot more confident in him.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: DiV on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 10:20:05
Hooray. Now the ITK ones can not tell us the players they know we're going to sign....

Anthony Grant.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Kinky Tom on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 10:20:30
So you're saying we should be getting loanees in from Real Madrid any day now? I reckon Isco should do a job in League Two.

My mate's brother used to have kickabouts with a very young Isco when living in Spain apparently.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Hunk on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 10:20:34
Don't know anything about Rob, but having a trust board member as CEO is a positive move


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 10:21:12
Wow its Rob Angus, never saw that one coming. :D


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 10:22:09
Don't know anything about Rob, but having a trust board member as CEO is a positive move

Not sure if still board member but resigned as Vice Chair yesterday.

https://truststfc.tv/rob-angus/


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 10:22:33
My mum works at Nationwide and likes him, so that'll do for me. Angus in.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: reeves4england on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 10:28:16
Here's Rob's LinkedIn bio for anyone who is curious...

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I am an experienced Finance and Strategy Leader, with a track record of providing long term business strategies, leading and building finance teams, developing and driving key commercial programmes to ensure maximum share holder value and customer satisfaction.

Some of my stand out projects have included: Establishing and building a ‘greenfield’ Fin Tech digital business bank for Nationwide Building Society in 18 months; leading the turnaround of an underperforming and loss making business line to contributing profit of £50m within 18 months; and creating and executing the acquisition of assets from a major Bank, delivering £100m in profit for the business.

I have worked for Nationwide Building society for a number of years. During this time and due to my wide range of skills I have led multiple business lines and have been involved in some of the banks most innovative programmes. I have a solid foundation in ‘nuts and bolts’ accounting and have multiple qualifications including ACCA and CTA. My most recent roles have been focused on finance and long-term strategy in the FS sector.

Key Skills - Team Leadership, Financial Analysis, Financial Management, Cost Management, M&A, Commercial Management, Business Transformation, Agile skills, experience and mindset, Financial Reporting, Product/Proposition Marketing, Risk Management, Financial Control, Board Level Influencing and 3rd Party Stakeholder Management


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: donkey on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 10:31:00
Hooray. Now the ITK ones can not tell us the players they know we're going to sign....

 :clap:


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 10:37:34
Here's Rob's LinkedIn bio for anyone who is curious...


He's probably better qualified for the job than a lot of football CEOs with experience are.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 10:39:25
It's a brilliant appointment with Clem having the fans in mind.

This feels like a dream at the moment. Let's hope it lasts?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: RedRag on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 10:40:10
Don't know anything about Rob, but having a trust board member as CEO is a positive move
Also the fact that he has resigned his position as a board member of TrustSTFC indicates that both Rob and the Club have a keener feel for good governance and (potential) conflicts of interest than, for example, most of our Government including its lawyers.

Long live TrustSTFC and long live STFC :pint:


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: chalkies shorts on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 10:40:54
Before I retired I worked for nationwide for many years. In my role I got to know most of the executives and would be aware of issues or reputations
Rob had a great reputation. Not only for being open, friendly, approachable but also his intellect. Unlike most I never heard a bad word about him.
Although no experience about being CEO in football, this bloke will learn very quickly.  A superb appointment. STFC through and through.
If the club want reingagement with the fans then they'll get it.
This bloke is the real deal.
Give him some space to bed into the role. Allow a couple of early errors and I think he will be excellent.
Given the fucking idiots Rob has had to deal with at nationwide, hell do the relationship side really well.
Great appointment by Clem and don't forget by nature, im a miserable negative cynical old git.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 10:41:09
It’s really all about who is pulling the strings in the background.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 10:47:57
Words from the man himself https://truststfc.tv/robert-angus/


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Crackity Jones on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 10:56:24
I have banked with Nationwide for over 20 years and never had an issue with my current or savings account. Angus IN!

Seriously though - reading Rob's bio, what a great appointment. A wealth of relevant experience (those accounting skills are going to be tested over the coming weeks) and an STFC fan with a vision of a sustainable community club. :clap:


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bewster on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 10:57:42
I worked with Rob at Nationwide also, as already stated he is the real deal and a brilliant bloke too.

This appointment is up there with the best appointments we have made (not that we have a great track record) ;D


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 10:59:13
This is all really happening, isn't it?  :)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Red Frog on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 11:00:23
Got to be a chance of Nationwide returning as chief sponsor, you would think. Not just because of the obvious connection, but because it would be a good time for them to seek to ride the wave of optimism that will be around the club for a while, at least.


Title: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 11:00:35
a very interesting appointment

'one of us' as CEO. A bloody difficult job but at least he's stfc through and through

obviously he can't be 'one of us' as closely now.

a very positive appointment. going to be a steep learning curve is my only worry. But I don't know the guy, he may lap it up
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edit: great to hear Chalkies!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Chunkyhair on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 11:02:01
Looks excellent move.

One question, probably a stupid one - is he quitting Nationwide, or is CEO kinda extra-curricula/part time (I would have thought it needs to be FT given the shit that needs sorting)?

Notwithstanding, for the first time since probably the Pox game last year I am starting to feel better or even good about the club. All the noises seem incredibly positive and genuine (and the Aussie seems to be able string three words together without saying “well, yeah, no”).

The future is bright


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Summerof69 on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 11:05:26
One question, probably a stupid one - is he quitting Nationwide, or is CEO kinda extra-curricula/part time (I would have thought it needs to be FT given the shit that needs sorting)?


He has left Nationwide. I believe that was being sorted yesterday, and that was why it didn't get announced until today


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Chunkyhair on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 11:07:24
He has left Nationwide. I believe that was being sorted yesterday, and that was why it didn't get announced until today

Cheers - and good to hear.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 11:08:35
Wonder if he is taking a paycut. Probably on good whack on nationwide. CEO at a football club doesn't offer the best security!

Hats off to him. Bet his dreams have come true.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 11:14:38
Interesting appointment, my concern is the zero experience of running a football club which is totally different the finance world, it will certainly be a tough job.

Now the appointments are done, I find we have no one with experience of dealing with other clubs on football matters, especially transfers, while in the short term it is not really any issue but in the longer term a bit of experience does help so other clubs with more experience do not take advantage, even down to arranging loans and who pays what etc is negotiation.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 11:18:20
I find we have no one with experience of dealing with other clubs on football matters, especially transfers, while in the short

Except for the DOF, you mean?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Kinky Tom on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 11:18:27
I don't imagine many football club CEOs have much experience at FCs when first appointed to their roles?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JanAirplaneMan on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 11:20:02
Rob is amazing guys, the Trusts loss is STFCs gain. He has alot of experience over the last 3 years in getting the GG purchase to a point of signing and has learnt an awful lot a out how football clubs operate over these years and add that to his business acumen and finance experience at board level he is the perfect candidate, he loves STFC so add that in. Really wonderful appointment  


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: sir windon on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 11:23:47
Such a good feeling about things at long last.

LESS POWER. MOR(E) FUN(I)!!!!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 11:26:27
Except for the DOF, you mean?


He was working as a scout - 2 different types of jobs


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 11:27:21
Rob is amazing guys, the Trusts loss is STFCs gain. He has alot of experience over the last 3 years in getting the GG purchase to a point of signing and has learnt an awful lot a out how football clubs operate over these years and add that to his business acumen and finance experience at board level he is the perfect candidate, he loves STFC so add that in. Really wonderful appointment  

Great reference.
Should provide a bridge to the Supporters that has been drastically missing.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: tans on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 11:28:51
Nick Watkins had no football club experience when he came did he? He worked out alright.



Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 11:30:03
He was working as a scout - 2 different types of jobs

I don't know the ins and outs of scouting but I imagine there are elements of having to be involved with other football clubs. Or do they literally go back to headquarters and say 'these guys look good, maybe you should give Jim Bob at XXXXX FC a call to see if he's available, what price etc'?

I've literally no idea how it works but I imagine Chorley has a bit more involvement than you give credit for.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Berniman on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 11:35:57
Football experience is less important than business experience with the position i feel.  The club has been crying out to be run as a business rather than having a Mafia boardroom which is what we have seen over the past few years.

Let Rob focus on the business with Clem, leave the Ben's and the coaching staff to focus on the pitch, with Chorley being the conduit between upstairs and downstairs.

Should work well and is well overdue at Swindon Town FC


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 11:37:10
I think you're right


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 11:44:07
He was working as a scout - 2 different types of jobs

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I have known Ben Chorley for 5 years. Ben had a long successful career as a player and is incredibly knowledgeable about football and has a great knowledge on players. When I came to the club, it didn’t have a head of recruitment or chief scout which I thought was completely wrong. The most important part of building a successful team is recruiting the right players. Ben was actively involved in the recruitment for a couple of years at the club and helped the club make some excellent signings over that period


https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2021/july/new-director-of-football-and-head-coach-appointed/


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Crackity Jones on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 12:03:30
Football experience is less important than business experience with the position i feel.  The club has been crying out to be run as a business rather than having a Mafia boardroom which is what we have seen over the past few years.

Let Rob focus on the business with Clem, leave the Ben's and the coaching staff to focus on the pitch, with Chorley being the conduit between upstairs and downstairs.

Should work well and is well overdue at Swindon Town FC
This is my view as well. Surround yourself with the right people to run the football and commercial side etc.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: michael on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 12:08:29
It is a very astute appointment by Clem. Good luck Rob!

Every single one of the new appointments is going to be working in sub-optimal conditions from the start, have to remember that. Good to have some optimism back, though.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JBZ on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 12:13:44
It will be interesting to see how long the current goodwill on social media lasts if the season starts with a sustained run of bad results.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: MichaelPook on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 12:15:36
Superb appointment - we are BACK!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: donkey on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 12:19:23
Before I retired I worked for nationwide for many years. In my role I got to know most of the executives and would be aware of issues or reputations
Rob had a great reputation. Not only for being open, friendly, approachable but also his intellect. Unlike most I never heard a bad word about him.
Although no experience about being CEO in football, this bloke will learn very quickly.  A superb appointment. STFC through and through.
If the club want reingagement with the fans then they'll get it.
This bloke is the real deal.
Give him some space to bed into the role. Allow a couple of early errors and I think he will be excellent.
Given the fucking idiots Rob has had to deal with at nationwide, hell do the relationship side really well.
Great appointment by Clem and don't forget by nature, im a miserable negative cynical old git.

Wow, colour me impressed.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JoeMezz on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 12:19:58
It will be interesting to see how long the current goodwill on social media lasts if the season starts with a sustained run of bad results.

Surely must should realise we’re going to be pretty bad until November time. After that hopefully fitness and team bonding and we can climb the league


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Crackity Jones on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 12:31:59
Nobody is expecting a good season. Are they? Staying in the efl and sorting the shit out left by Power is the hope I would have thought


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: donkey on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 12:35:26
Nobody is expecting a good season. Are they? Staying in the efl and sorting the shit out left by Power is the hope I would have thought

You're probably right, but we have until the end of August to assemble our squad.  Why not ride the feel good factor? Today it's July and sunny, so I'm optimistic.  They may change, but for now I'm looking upwards.:-)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Ardiles on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 12:37:47
The hasn't run a football club bit doesn't concern me.  He's a well-regarded senior Finance professional.  Background may be in FS, but his time at the Trust will have given him a great window on the football world.  He will adapt.  I've taken my own Finance skill set from one industry sector to another several times in the last 10 yrs or so, so I know it can be done.  He'll be fine.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: chalkies shorts on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 12:40:48
Got a text from someone quite senior at nationwide who worked with Rob saying what a great appointment it is.
Also had a text from a rovers fan mate laughing their cock off about garner.
Time will tell.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Crackity Jones on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 12:45:15
You're probably right, but we have until the end of August to assemble our squad.  Why not ride the feel good factor? Today it's July and sunny, so I'm optimistic.  They may change, but for now I'm looking upwards.:-)
Donkey - That was me in optimistic mode  :D


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 12:46:03
the Rovers fans I've talked to make Garner sound very Luke Williams.

But they also had a 'director of transfers' (!) above him.

I'm sure we'll make our own mind up over time


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 12:48:45
Nobody is expecting a good season. Are they? Staying in the efl and sorting the shit out left by Power is the hope I would have thought

I doubt anybody's expecting a 'good' season.

I expect a slow start, only for things to improve once the team catches up in terms of cohesion etc. It would be unfair on the gaffer for us to expect promotion this season, but I do expect to see that he's the man for the job next season.

I've been reading the Bristol Rovers forum and a few seem to think things were starting to come together for him before whatever happened to change it all. He might just be one of those who needs time and he's fortunate here in a sense that fans are likely to be patient for a while considering the circumstances.

But that patience won't be infinite, and neither should it be. I don't know where the line should be drawn, there's too many variables, but hopefully we won't find out.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Red Frog on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 12:50:53
The hasn't run a football club bit doesn't concern me.  He's a well-regarded senior Finance professional.  Background may be in FS, but his time at the Trust will have given him a great window on the football world.  He will adapt.  I've taken my own Finance skill set from one industry sector to another several times in the last 10 yrs or so, so I know it can be done.  He'll be fine.

You must be seething you didn't get the call.  :D


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bogus Dave on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 12:52:34
Sounds very encouraging. He’s clearly a very well respected and talented individual, and have no doubt he has the skills to succeed based on his career to date

His biggest challenge may well be the fact that he is a long standing fan, and can’t let that interfere in his ability to make tough decisions. Don’t go full Jeremy Wray (although seeing as he’s an accountant I doubt he would!)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: donkey on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 12:56:05
Donkey - That was me in optimistic mode  :D

 :D


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JBZ on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 12:57:49
I estimate that the goodwill will have evaporated by Sunday 12 September 2021.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Wormholes of Time on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 12:59:07
I've just remembered something that my old mate, Reg, would have remembered: St Clem is the patron saint of blacksmiths. St Clem was the name on the lips of Wiltshire agricultural rioters in the Captain Swing riots of 1830. I shall have a drink tonight, courtesy of the Radical Stroud Reg Smeeton Memorial Cup, and toast St Clem. This is, as Reg would say, a very good rune.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: donkey on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 13:01:02
I've just remembered something that my old mate, Reg, would have remembered: St Clem is the patron saint of blacksmiths. St Clem was the name on the lips of Wiltshire agricultural rioters in the Captain Swing riots of 1830. I shall have a drink tonight, courtesy of the Radical Stroud Reg Smeeton Memorial Cup, and toast St Clem. This is, as Reg would say, a very good rune.

Love it!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Red Frog on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 13:03:02
Was initially concerned about whether Rob has the experience for the role despite his track record in finance, but the more I think about it, the more excited I am about the combination of a fan-run club à la Exeter etc with the huge boost to community engagement that brings, but with the financial backing of an apparently genuine benefactor.

I have Pompey friends who were sad when their Trust had to sell to Eisner in order to compete longer-term. They can only dream of being allowed this far back into the running of their club.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Kinky Tom on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 13:04:05
I estimate that the goodwill will have evaporated by Sunday 12 September 2021.

Nah, we always batter Port Vale at home  :D


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Ardiles on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 13:04:30
You must be seething you didn't get the call.  :D

Nope!  🙂


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Ardiles on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 13:05:27
I've just remembered something that my old mate, Reg, would have remembered: St Clem is the patron saint of blacksmiths. St Clem was the name on the lips of Wiltshire agricultural rioters in the Captain Swing riots of 1830. I shall have a drink tonight, courtesy of the Radical Stroud Reg Smeeton Memorial Cup, and toast St Clem. This is, as Reg would say, a very good rune.

Miss Reg.  Wish he'd been around to see this.  And comment!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Kinky Tom on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 13:06:41
Miss Reg.  Wish he'd been around to see this.  And comment!

At least we have a reasonably experienced right back.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Red Frog on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 13:10:21
I've just remembered something that my old mate, Reg, would have remembered: St Clem is the patron saint of blacksmiths. St Clem was the name on the lips of Wiltshire agricultural rioters in the Captain Swing riots of 1830. I shall have a drink tonight, courtesy of the Radical Stroud Reg Smeeton Memorial Cup, and toast St Clem. This is, as Reg would say, a very good rune.

I love having Reg here in spirit. However he'd surely also find negative aspects in the situation, for instance in the empowerment of the workers only being enabled through the munificence of a capitalist financier. This may be Cadbury-style benefaction, but it isn't seizing the means of production.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: LucienSanchez on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 13:16:41
I've just remembered something that my old mate, Reg, would have remembered: St Clem is the patron saint of blacksmiths. St Clem was the name on the lips of Wiltshire agricultural rioters in the Captain Swing riots of 1830. I shall have a drink tonight, courtesy of the Radical Stroud Reg Smeeton Memorial Cup, and toast St Clem. This is, as Reg would say, a very good rune.

Strong reference… my dissertation was on the Swing riots!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: hefty toe on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 13:19:23
Can't imagine Reg would have been a fan of Ben Garner's appointment. He seemed to prefer a more pragmatic type.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 13:23:42
Talking of old posters, I reckon there may be an appearance by an old favourite pretty soon!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Kinky Tom on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 13:25:45
Talking of old posters, I reckon there may be an appearance by an AUD favourite pretty soon!

 :hmmm:


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 13:26:29
:hmmm:

very well done sir!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 13:27:30
Apologies to all for going off on one ( or 2 or 3), a couple of weeks away and with things now settled I hope I can behave myself.

Anyway, I still see our resident dullard hasn’t managed to post one single positive comment on the events of the past couple of days. How he must hate it!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Private Fraser on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 13:29:37
Yay! He's back.

We've missed you (and your occasional strops)  :D


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 13:30:36
Apologies to all for going off on one ( or 2 or 3), a couple of weeks away and with things now settled I hope I can behave myself.

Anyway, I still see our resident dullard hasn’t managed to post one single positive comment on the events of the past couple of days. How he must hate it!

Good to see you back sir. Things are looking much more positive since you went away :)

Any player signing rumours?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Crackity Jones on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 13:36:42
Welcome back Aud


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Private Fraser on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 13:37:03
I've just remembered something that my old mate, Reg, would have remembered: St Clem is the patron saint of blacksmiths. St Clem was the name on the lips of Wiltshire agricultural rioters in the Captain Swing riots of 1830. I shall have a drink tonight, courtesy of the Radical Stroud Reg Smeeton Memorial Cup, and toast St Clem. This is, as Reg would say, a very good rune.

Great post! Pure 'Reg'.

He would have been frowning on this week's outbreak of optimism and urging a much more cautious approach from the fanbase.  :)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: RobertT on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 13:39:11
Reg infected everyone before passing, that much is evident.  Talk of saving our status as a Football league club being the target for the season!

Garner would have rubbed him up the wrong way I imagine, and talk of developing the youth - not that he'd have been against it as such, more that it would not be how you get our of League two at the right end.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Crackity Jones on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 13:46:12
Reg would have constructed a correlation between league position and takeover based on past history to predict where we would finish in Div 4


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Moss on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 13:50:32
Reg would have constructed a correlation between league position and takeover based on past history to predict where we would finish in Div 4

We have never been promoted with an Antipodean owner.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 14:00:48
Apologies to all for going off on one ( or 2 or 3), a couple of weeks away and with things now settled I hope I can behave myself.

Anyway, I still see our resident dullard hasn’t managed to post one single positive comment on the events of the past couple of days. How he must hate it!

It hadn’t gone unnoticed.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JBZ on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 14:01:24
I will be interested to see what's happening kit wise . I assume the away kit will be yellow with green shorts


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Red Frog on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 14:04:57
As it stands, we could be bringing a whole new meaning to the term "football strip".


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: DiV on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 14:08:15
I say this every year but I would complete love a bespoke designed in house Swindon Town shirt which isn’t a copy & paste template job loads of other clubs either had the previous season or will also have this season.

I assume that it doesn’t make much sense logistically or financially but I’m no artist or designer but I reckon I could come up with the best home kit we’ve had in 10 years in 10 minutes.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JBZ on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 14:11:00
But the dgi kit was in house wasn't it ?  Not a great precedent if so.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Pookemon on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 14:11:59
I say this every year but I would complete love a bespoke designed in house Swindon Town shirt which isn’t a copy & paste template job loads of other clubs either had the previous season or will also have this season.

I assume that it doesn’t make much sense logistically or financially but I’m no artist or designer but I reckon I could come up with the best home kit we’ve had in 10 years in 10 minutes.

Get some potato shapes and a few 5 year olds and we can go retro


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 14:13:28
yay, Audrey is back.

you've not missed much :)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 14:14:29
Is JBZ now being a parody of himself?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JBZ on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 14:15:10
Is JBZ now being a parody of himself?

Eh?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 14:15:31
Is JBZ now being a parody of himself?

Poor cunt isn't even getting any bites. Makes you wonder why he bothers.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JBZ on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 14:17:22
Poor cunt isn't even getting any bites. Makes you wonder why he bothers.

What bites? I am not sure I understand. No post today seeks a bite


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 14:19:19
Poor cunt isn't even getting any bites. Makes you wonder why he bothers.

I wonder if he is 'Tony Roll' on twitter if you have seen what he says on that platform?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 14:24:31
The communication is shit, we have not had a statement for 4 sodding hours!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 14:26:20
Eh?

Sorry, I see yellow shirt and automatically switch to Oxford hate :). Thought you were on a wind up

I will be interested to see what's happening kit wise . I assume the away kit will be yellow with green shorts

yeah yeah, Aussie. Slow reader here


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JBZ on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 14:27:33
Sorry, I see yellow shirt and automatically switch to Oxford hate :). Thought you were on a wind up

yeah yeah, Aussie. Slow reader here

Green and gold of our antipodean friends, yes


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 14:38:32
Good to see you back sir. Things are looking much more positive since you went away :)

Any player signing rumours?
It would seem appropriate to announce a couple later on at the news conference. McKirdy, Tavares, Grant.

No sign of either Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett Pitman, Brett Pitman or Grounds, then. Not that I’m bothered.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 15:28:54
Here’s one for the stato buffs. Notwithstanding our Div2 status but would we be the first club to be promoted, relegated and promoted from outside the top tier in consecutive seasons?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Kinky Tom on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 15:33:56
Rotherham and P'boro may have done it fairly recently?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Red Frog on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 15:36:20
It would seem appropriate to announce a couple later on at the news conference. McKirdy, Tavares, Grant.

No sign of either Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett Pitman, Brett Pitman, Brett Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett Pitman, Brett Pitman or Grounds, then. Not that I’m bothered.

Last night's OSC panel indicated that Grounds may have been isolating, while BP exercised his right not to train with the club after he wasn't paid. I somehow doubt he'll be back now, but I could be wrong. Grounds may be shorter of options.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: RobertT on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 15:39:10
Was Grounds isolating all season?, explains a lot.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: chalkies shorts on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 15:45:52
Here’s one for the stato buffs. Notwithstanding our Div2 status but would we be the first club to be promoted, relegated and promoted from outside the top tier in consecutive seasons?
Doncaster possibly.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 15:46:41
Apparently Clem is being interviewed live on Sky Sports in the next hour.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 15:48:16
Apparently Clem is being interviewed live on Sky Sports in the next hour.

Excellent.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: swindonmaniac on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 15:50:50
Here’s one for the stato buffs. Notwithstanding our Div2 status but would we be the first club to be promoted, relegated and promoted from outside the top tier in consecutive seasons?
  Christ,  must have taken you days to think that one up !!.   


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Frigby Daser on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 15:52:09
Does anyone know if there is anywhere to watch the Press Conference? Conscious you can listen on BBC Sounds.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 15:54:18
Does anyone know if there is anywhere to watch to Press Conference? Conscious you can listen on BBC Sounds.

Not aware of any live stream unfortunetly


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 15:54:25
Does anyone know if there is anywhere to watch to Press Conference? Conscious you can listen on BBC Sounds.
I don't think so but as you say it is on BBC Wilts live to listen to.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 15:54:49
Apparently Clem is being interviewed live on Sky Sports in the next hour.
Just turned on and caught the last 20 seconds of it  :doh:

Sky normally repeat things ad infinitum though...probably be on about 30 times between now and 6.00 tomorrow morning...


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Hunk on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 15:57:00
Here’s one for the stato buffs. Notwithstanding our Div2 status but would we be the first club to be promoted, relegated and promoted from outside the top tier in consecutive seasons?

Tranmere?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 15:57:38
 Christ,  must have taken you days to think that one up !!.  

Errr, no. About two minutes actually, after my son engaged me In conversation.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 16:04:51
Hodgetts really isn't very good is he.....


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 16:12:07
Hodgetts really isn't very good is he.....

He really struggles on any question that is not 'on the pitch' related


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 16:19:43
Garner speaks well, they seem to really carefully putting the coaching team together.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 16:24:02
Fuck football, what is his fucking favourite cheese FFS.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: kaufman on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 16:25:35
I enjoyed that. Clem knows his limitations it seems at things like this and was brave enough to put himself out there on all those interviews not long back.

Rob Angus will be the main guy we hear from and he spoke excellently. I genuinely hope it works out for Rob.

Would love to know if A Grant was training today. I'm guessing all the guys on trial these past couple of weeks have been spotted from the new regime? which bodes well.
 
Excellent to hear nearly all their targets are still available and in many ways, if the money is there, we're a more attractive proposition now than the day we got relegated.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 16:31:51
Would love to know if A Grant was training today. I'm guessing all the guys on trial these past couple of weeks have been spotted from the new regime? which bodes well.
Grant was indeed at training again today.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: kaufman on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 16:32:22
Grant was indeed at training again today.

Thanking you.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Private Fraser on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 16:34:32
Had been waiting to hear something about the 'umbongo'.  This just came up on the Adver timeline:

"5:32pm
Clem says he will have to put "quite a bit" of money into the club to sort things out.

Angus says club is working as fast as possible to clear first part of transfer embargo issues - in terms of unpaid debts etc.

The second part of the embargo is to do with the club taking the hardship fund. That may take slightly longer, but the first section is the priority to give Garner and Chorley chance to strengthen the team and help Town survive in League Two."


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 16:35:15
I know it’s probably all the excitement of the last few days going to my head. But Wollacott, Hunt, Baudry, Conroy, Iandolo, Lyden, Payne and potentially Grant isn’t a bad starting point for a first XI.
5 of them won this league just over 12 months ago. Fuck staying up, we can be in and around the play offs!!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Pericardinho on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 16:39:25
What's going on with Pitman? he's still contracted to us right? or did we breach that contract by not paying him?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 16:40:25
What they are saying to the media about staying up being the ambition, is probably way different to what hey are saying on the training ground. Lower expectation, relieve pressure.

Tbf, Payne said he’d stay if he thought we’d be challenging. That will be a good pointer, I think.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 16:41:35
What's going on with Pitman? he's still contracted to us right? or did we breach that contract by not paying him?
There was a cryptic comment from Garner on the Pitman and Grounds situation...."we are contacting the EFL about it".


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 17:02:54
All positive stuff, its great to hear how they are improving the medical and science depts, its always things like this that helps attract players.

I'm sure the players are being told this seasons ambition but are also being told the longer terms aims, so they know it may be a hard season but hang in there and be part of the joy ride in helping to improve on the pitch


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 17:04:02
Quote from: Peter Venkman
There was a cryptic comment from Garner on the Pitman and Grounds situation...."we are contacting the EFL about it".

I missed that. interesting.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 17:07:30
Has there been any mention yet about Lyden going off the other day?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 17:08:53
Haven't listened to Hodgetts much, was he such a negative chippy sod with power?

Sent from my SM-A125F


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JanAirplaneMan on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 17:13:26
Led to believe that Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett Pitman, Brett Pitman refused to come back to the club until.he was paid. Grounds was self isolating but he should have returned and he hasn't
Suspect they want to speak to EFL in order to see where the club stands given their non return.
Believe the issue with Lyden was down to feeling a tight hamstring


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Red Frog on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 17:15:06
There was a cryptic comment from Garner on the Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett Pitman, Brett Pitman, Brett Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett Pitman, Brett Pitman and Grounds situation...."we are contacting the EFL about it".

I think what that meant is finding out whether the contract options the club exercised (Grounds? Why?) were still valid - I don't know if the players had a say in whether they could accept or reject the extensions, or whether the club's failure to pay them and their withdrawal of labour meant they were invalidated anyway. I think that's what they're trying to unravel now.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 17:15:50
Has there been any mention yet about Lyden going off the other day?

I’m sure I read he felt tight, so wasn’t worth risking it, should be okay for Saturday?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 17:31:48
I think what that meant is finding out whether the contract options the club exercised (Grounds? Why?) were still valid - I don't know if the players had a say in whether they could accept or reject the extensions, or whether the club's failure to pay them and their withdrawal of labour meant they were invalidated anyway. I think that's what they're trying to unravel now.

If they don't want to come back then thats fine, let them drift of to NL


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 17:41:52
Is JBZ now being a parody of himself?

I think somebody has hacked JBZ's account, he seems way too positive


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Frigby Daser on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 17:45:10
Listened today. Liked what I heard. It seems clear to me that Morfuni just won’t get involved in the day to day, which is fine, and he’ll leave that to the others - rightly so. I got the feeling he’s along for the ride, and hopefully some ground development. Garner spoke well. As did Rob Angus. We’re now a fan led club. Who’d have bet on that when the orange hats were out!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JBZ on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 17:58:28
I think somebody has hacked JBZ's account, he seems way too positive

I thought that the suggestion that the away kit should pay homage to Australia was on brand, yes


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Wormholes of Time on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 19:15:43
The last time I had a season ticket was in the Premier League season and I gave it to Reg gratis after watching us lose 5-0 at home to Liverpool on my birthday. But I think I'm going to get one this season. As I write this, I have, opposite me, Reg's collection of Victorian pennies and entrance tickets for STFC v Roma, 10th September 1969; League Cup v Burnley 4th December 1968, and the replay v Burnley.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 21:27:36
Whenever I go to Pattaya, there's always STFC news when I get back.

Guess where I'm going tomorrow? (I'll give you a clue - it's Pattaya)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: digby on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 22:14:37
Anyone know where i can get a link to the press conference plz - i tried wiltshire radio site but couldnt find a link !


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: digby on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 22:20:30
Found it !  :nod:


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 22:21:42
Found it !  :nod:

Link?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Christy on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 22:30:29
I've just remembered something that my old mate, Reg, would have remembered: St Clem is the patron saint of blacksmiths. St Clem was the name on the lips of Wiltshire agricultural rioters in the Captain Swing riots of 1830. I shall have a drink tonight, courtesy of the Radical Stroud Reg Smeeton Memorial Cup, and toast St Clem. This is, as Reg would say, a very good rune.
This is a beautiful testament to friendship, and clearly a friendship so deep that you could countenance Reg considering the runes ‘very good’.

For the TEF, I suspect his optimism would have been tempered somewhat.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Thursday, July 22, 2021, 23:21:07
Haven't listened to Hodgetts much, was he such a negative chippy sod with power?

Sent from my SM-A125F

No, and that was poor, really time for him to be put out to pasture. The Loathed Stranger Crew and Vic's 'On The Sofa's' have shown him up for the out of date dinosaur he is. He was dreadful today.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Friday, July 23, 2021, 00:29:43
After relinquishing our 3 season tickets in Row R of the DR after the play off with PNE we have decided to renew two adult ST for the coming season as soon as they become available to new applications. We hadn’t abandoned the club, no way could we ever do that but the uptake of games began to gather pace during Wellens tenure (as well as away games) and we really thought we were going places. Sadly last season showed up how the structure of the club was built on sand as if we didn’t kind of know that already.

Like most of you I’m sure, we’re so excited about how things have panned out this week and you know what, if it all goes pear shaped on the pitch due to the mountain we have to climb and we get relegated to the NL we’ll still have two ST for that campaign too!

We are on a journey that has the potential to eclipse the ride and rise up the leagues we had when Lou took us to consecutive promotions which Ozzie and Glen then continued to the premiership, oh with an improved ground to boot.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, July 23, 2021, 04:52:36
What's going on with Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett Pitman, Brett Pitman, Brett Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett Pitman, Brett Pitman, Brett Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett Pitman, Brett Pitman, Brett Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett Pitman, Brett Pitman? he's still contracted to us right? or did we breach that contract by not paying him?
Oi tink e be off to them thar Rovers to the west.

I’d imagine he’s the polar opposite of what Garner wants.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Frigby Daser on Friday, July 23, 2021, 07:12:11
No, and that was poor, really time for him to be put out to pasture. The Loathed Stranger Crew and Vic's 'On The Sofa's' have shown him up for the out of date dinosaur he is. He was dreadful today.

Really odd wasn’t it. So out of touch with the mood of fans. Ready to remind Garner of his past failings. No sense of the relief and optimism no just on here but anywhere you look. Time for a new front man.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: kaufman on Friday, July 23, 2021, 07:27:37
I actually really enjoyed listening to Garners answers on his time at Rovers. Andrew Hawes went either deeper with the questions and it made a really interesting interview. The talk of the town is worth a listen for all the interviews


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Friday, July 23, 2021, 07:39:27
Talk of the Town:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p09pzxt5


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Boy About Town on Friday, July 23, 2021, 07:47:02
No, and that was poor, really time for him to be put out to pasture. The Loathed Stranger Crew and Vic's 'On The Sofa's' have shown him up for the out of date dinosaur he is. He was dreadful today.

BBC Wilts need to be rid of Hodgetts. He has no clue. So out of touch. Sheridan’esque.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Friday, July 23, 2021, 07:56:25
I couldn't find the Hodgett's interview - Is it still available?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Friday, July 23, 2021, 08:19:42
Shaun Hodgetts seems to have become the new TEF punch bag...there had to be one with Power out of the picture I suppose...


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Nemo on Friday, July 23, 2021, 08:24:00
Bring back Brunel FM


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Boy About Town on Friday, July 23, 2021, 08:24:36
Shaun Hodgetts seems to have become the new TEF punch bag...there had to be one with Power out of the picture I suppose...

I hope he reads the forum and has insight


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Friday, July 23, 2021, 08:29:14
I think he is probably taking the brunt for the BBC on the whole to be honest. They have been absolutely terrible the last 6 months through this


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Costanza on Friday, July 23, 2021, 08:42:56
Nah. Disdain for his public journalistic efforts have been simmering for some time.

BBC can report facts and there was plenty of that in recent weeks.

BBC Wiltshire Sport did the absolute minimum compared to other departments within their organisation and beyond. BBC South's explanation of the situation would have been a good start, they even got Fjortoft involved.

Thank goodness that, when we were seemingly on our knees, Wilts Sport had a lovely chat about Euro 2020 links to Swindon Town.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Power to people on Friday, July 23, 2021, 08:52:47
Compare Shaun Hodgetts questions during the press conference to Andrew Hawes' afterwards, totally chalk and cheese.

I don't think it is anyone 'picking' on Shaun just his journalistic style hasn't moved with the times.

I'm looking forward to when there is a Loathed Stranger podcast with the new incumbants though.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Friday, July 23, 2021, 09:12:47
A new beginning of sorts coming up for the fans that's for sure.
But has there actually been any official word from the EFL that restriction free attendance for home & away fans will be good to go?
It will be good to experience the non socially distanced wait to get out of the upper reaches of the DRS again.


Title: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Friday, July 23, 2021, 09:36:34
I've previously thought Hodgetts got a lot of undeserved stick.

I know the BBC has to be impartial. But to my mind  what's looks like a considered editorial policy to ignore the situation and only relay the Power side (at request?) has really fucked me off.

I get he has to protect the BBC commentary rights. But he also has to do his job. Scared of losing his 'understands' special relationship (or his kneecaps)?

I am not expecting him to be 'with us', but I do expect him to as equally be  'with them'.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, July 23, 2021, 09:40:42
I've previously thought Hodgetts got a lot of undeserved stick.

I know the BBC has to be impartial. But to my mind  what's looks like a considered editorial policy to ignore the situation and only relay the Power side (at request?) has really fucked me off.

I get he has to protect the BBC commentary rights. But he also has to do his job. Scared of losing his 'understands' special relationship (or his kneecaps)?

I am not expecting him to be 'with us', but I do expect him to as equally be  'with them'.

Funnily enough I was going to also mention the special relationship with journo Alan Nixon. I see he has literally just tweeted 'couple leaving' which I suspect are BP to the Greggs tasting factory and JG to the glue factory. I've asked him about incoming but I imagine now his mouthpiece has gone won't respond.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Friday, July 23, 2021, 09:42:52
yeah PPP and Grounds to be sure

Nixon I don't care as much. National press that in a normal season most people will flick over

BBC Wilts are supposed to be a local community radio


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Friday, July 23, 2021, 10:03:14
I think he is probably taking the brunt for the BBC on the whole to be honest. They have been absolutely terrible the last 6 months through this

I'm not so sure, the whole point of BBC is to be impartial and give both sides a fair hearing. If you compare and contrast Hodgetts first interview with Clem to his last with Power there is no comparison.

Clem actually got a grilling, which is as it should be. Power was just allowed to talk utter contradictory nonsense, with no scrutiny. I know why, because Hodgetts was worried about losing all his 'BBC Wiltshire Sport understands' exclusives. But it's still not how the BBC should behave.

Hopefully new lot will give all local media access rather than just have one favoured pet.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Friday, July 23, 2021, 10:05:35
indeed.

though I do think the BBC is the best medium for Comms


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Boy About Town on Friday, July 23, 2021, 10:13:55
We need a Shaun Hodgetts thread. 200+ pages until he finally leaves BBC Wiltshire.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, July 23, 2021, 10:13:56
I used to stick up for Hodgetts.

Used to...


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Friday, July 23, 2021, 10:31:36
indeed.

though I do think the BBC is the best medium for Comms

I agree to a point, it's certainly best for local, non-social media using fans. But I would personally like to see the in house comms doing more of the news dropping. Then the rest of the outlets can take it from there. Rather than everything getting leaked to one source and then appearing on official club channels.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, July 23, 2021, 10:31:47
the Official Supporters club have tweeted that they are looking for 20 volunteers to tart up the CG on Monday from 9am. I know some on here that are Swindon based said that they would help out so thought I would mention it here. I'll try and find the link to the form that needs to be completed.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Friday, July 23, 2021, 10:32:36
Tarted up?  :sherlock:


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, July 23, 2021, 10:41:51
Tarted up?  :sherlock:

Sweeping, tidying, cleaning, washing seats etc.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JanAirplaneMan on Friday, July 23, 2021, 10:42:23
Hi guys if anyone can help on monday then please complete this form
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfEIecjtC2a1lRY5vgYY3pWvejyevfST0PXrm_HQM5smhdB0Q/viewform

Cheers


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Friday, July 23, 2021, 10:45:09
would love to but... work


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Friday, July 23, 2021, 10:49:05
^ this


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, July 23, 2021, 11:05:57
How big are his hands FFS? (Maybe a distorted image?)

(https://i.imgur.com/tpJZgx9.jpg)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Friday, July 23, 2021, 11:10:05
Do we need a keeper?   :)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Friday, July 23, 2021, 11:10:42
Australians need big hands to hold their 'that's not a knife, this is a knife' knives


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Friday, July 23, 2021, 11:11:45
You great galah batch  :D


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: @MacPhlea on Friday, July 23, 2021, 12:06:40
I've previously thought Hodgetts got a lot of undeserved stick.

I know the BBC has to be impartial. But to my mind  what's looks like a considered editorial policy to ignore the situation and only relay the Power side (at request?) has really fucked me off.

I get he has to protect the BBC commentary rights. But he also has to do his job. Scared of losing his 'understands' special relationship (or his kneecaps)?

I am not expecting him to be 'with us', but I do expect him to as equally be  'with them'.

I don't know Shaun personally but Power had a habit of blocking anyone that crossed him media wise... Hodgett's was walking on eggshells... he's not an 'investigative journo' with eyes only on the issues and had to balance our plight with ensuring Power didn't break all ties with the media considering they had to deliver match day commentary


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Friday, July 23, 2021, 12:19:19
Nah. Disdain for his public journalistic efforts have been simmering for some time.

BBC can report facts and there was plenty of that in recent weeks.

BBC Wiltshire Sport did the absolute minimum compared to other departments within their organisation and beyond. BBC South's explanation of the situation would have been a good start, they even got Fjortoft involved.

Thank goodness that, when we were seemingly on our knees, Wilts Sport had a lovely chat about Euro 2020 links to Swindon Town.
Interesting comments re. Shaun and BBC Wilts... I must admit, I've probably not listened to their coverage for 9 months or more until this week... I was doing my best to block out all things STFC related. Wonder what the deal was with him and Power then?🤔


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, July 23, 2021, 12:20:26
He didn’t want to be the next Moosehead.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Friday, July 23, 2021, 12:33:40
Quote from: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey
He didn’t want to be the next Moosehead.

heads, shoulders, toes, toes


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Friday, July 23, 2021, 12:37:10
[quote="@MacPhlea]I don't know Shaun but Power had a habit of blocking anyone that crossed him media wise... Hodgett's was walking on eggshells... he's not an 'investigative journo' with eyes only on the issues and had to balance our plight with ensuring Power didn't break all ties with the media considering they had to deliver match day commentary [/quote]

I get that in part. but even to the extent of only retweeting club communication while ignoring the other side?

also holding a fans phone in at short notice to conflict with the OSC.

I know I'm not the only one to notice that.

But what's done is done. as I say, the BBC is still very important for the club


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Posh Red on Friday, July 23, 2021, 12:50:13
Interesting to read the article in the adver about season tickets, Rob did mention they were looking at what to do about last season’s tickets, and their target was to get us up to 6000


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Red Frog on Friday, July 23, 2021, 13:08:50
Interesting to read the article in the adver about season tickets, Rob did mention they were looking at what to do about last season’s tickets, and their target was to get us up to 6000


Hmm, Fitton was the last one to drop prices in a similar attempt to boost numbers, and he ended up disappointed in the takeup. Wonder if the new regime will generate sufficient goodwill to get there - it would be quite an achievement. What's the current level? About 3500?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, July 23, 2021, 13:12:04
6,000 sounds ambitious.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, July 23, 2021, 13:23:54
If we couldn’t get 6000 in league 1 with the offer of £200 season tickets with similar goodwill levels thanks to ousting Diamandis I can’t see us getting close to 6k in league 2 unfortunately, especially in the current climate.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, July 23, 2021, 13:30:12
The power of Power’s demise is a powerful marketing tool.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Friday, July 23, 2021, 13:58:09
even so

I'll do my bit as I'm sure those that also can will.

we haven't seen the offer yet mind


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Posh Red on Friday, July 23, 2021, 14:27:03
Hmm, Fitton was the last one to drop prices in a similar attempt to boost numbers, and he ended up disappointed in the takeup. Wonder if the new regime will generate sufficient goodwill to get there - it would be quite an achievement. What's the current level? About 3500?

To be fair we bought season tickets that season, even though we couldn’t make midweek games, and have had them ever since.

Wasn’t planning on renewing for the upcoming season, but probably will now


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Munichred on Friday, July 23, 2021, 14:59:47
Whenever I go to Pattaya, there's always STFC news when I get back.

Guess where I'm going tomorrow? (I'll give you a clue - it's Pattaya)

Does Buttsy's in Soi Bukahao still do that great Liver and Onion with Mashed potato?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, July 23, 2021, 15:03:38
Does Buttsy's in Soi Bukahao still do that great Liver and Onion with Mashed potato?

I doubt it exists anymore. Everything's been shut for months.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Munichred on Friday, July 23, 2021, 15:17:58
I doubt it exists anymore. Everything's been shut for months.

Shame. I ate there a few times as it was c100 metres from Lucy's Massage, which my good mate Ian used to own with his Thai girlfriend... Lucy. 10 years since I was there :-(

Have fun!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Friday, July 23, 2021, 15:45:45
Shaun Hodgetts seems to have become the new TEF punch bag...there had to be one with Power out of the picture I suppose...

The man had his tongue right up Powers ass even right at the very end. Him being moody with Clem doesn't surprise me. He gets what he deserves.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Friday, July 23, 2021, 15:54:51
What a refreshing few days. Very happy with the CEO appointment, and I thought he spoke well yesterday.

Intrigued by what is planned for season tickets, as surely the 6000 target wouldn’t have been mentioned without some sort of incentive (I’d be surprised if we get near that figure but I like that they are aiming high!)

I hope a certain non-Exec director has also moved on, to put an end to the days of the local convicts getting the red carpet treatment in the boardroom.

Re. Hodgetts. It’s only when you listen to Vic Morgan, Andrew Hawes and our very own RP interview players and staff that you realise just how poor his questioning is. Throw in the perceived Power bias and it’s no surprise he gets some stick. A lovely man, though and I hope it doesn’t get too personal.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, July 23, 2021, 16:04:51
May have missed it but I see the home kit has been released in the club shop, no sponsors but not sure if it will stay that way.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Riddick on Friday, July 23, 2021, 16:07:05
Presumably they will want a sponsor for the revenue, but that will take some time.

Impressed at what is a unique Puma shirt. Like the pinstripes, not sure i'm a fan of all the mini old badges. But overall looks good.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Kinky Tom on Friday, July 23, 2021, 16:09:45
(https://www.stfcdirect.com/siteimg/prodhires/2424-94.jpg)

Those stripes will look a long way apart on some fans  :D


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, July 23, 2021, 16:28:19
Presumably they will want a sponsor for the revenue, but that will take some time.

Impressed at what is a unique Puma shirt. Like the pinstripes, not sure i'm a fan of all the mini old badges. But overall looks good.

I'm the same, loving the pinstripes, but the white patches and the badges just seem to me to be puma trying a little too hard. Overall though as nice a home shirt we have had in a while. I am going to buy either home or away for the first time in a while I reckon so will wait and see what the away one looks like.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Samdy Gray on Friday, July 23, 2021, 16:31:02
Love it, already pre-ordered. Clem can take all my money.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Ginginho on Friday, July 23, 2021, 16:32:43
I like it, not an identikit with no imagination, it's unique to us.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Swindon Please Win on Friday, July 23, 2021, 16:32:56
Best home kit for years, pre-ordered too.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: wazzared on Friday, July 23, 2021, 16:33:20
Really like that kit  ;D


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Friday, July 23, 2021, 16:48:53
No sponsor?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Summerof69 on Friday, July 23, 2021, 16:51:30
No sponsor?

Yet...It's only been 48 hours since Clem did his statement


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Kinky Tom on Friday, July 23, 2021, 16:51:43
I'm certain there will be a sponsor, I imagine Clem etc. were in discussions with Puma before everything was sorted and just really needed the kit sorting out, once a main sponsor is in place it'll be easy to add it on once it starts being made for market.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Friday, July 23, 2021, 16:56:08
The man had his tongue right up Powers ass even right at the very end. Him being moody with Clem doesn't surprise me. He gets what he deserves.
Fair enough...like I said previously, I'd not listened to BBC Wilts for months until yesterday.

I like it, not an identikit with no imagination, it's unique to us.
Agree, looks great and for once, whoever it is that says every single year without fail, "Oooh, it's just another generic template"...can't say it ;)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Nemo on Friday, July 23, 2021, 17:12:50
Really like that.

Trying hard to retain a degree of balance about the new ownership and not go full over-expectations but not a step out of place so far!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Costanza on Friday, July 23, 2021, 17:25:28
Both kits were selected before Morfuni arrived.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: RobertT on Friday, July 23, 2021, 17:27:26
I once managed to get a friend of mine a new Everton shirt before the FA Cup Final (which was the first game they would be wearing it) before general release, from a Scout who worked there.  It didn't have a Sponsors name and looked amazing as a result.

I'm liking this one, may need to get one sent Par Avion.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Nemo on Friday, July 23, 2021, 17:28:11
Both kits were selected before Morfuni arrived.

Killjoy.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Friday, July 23, 2021, 17:29:15
Clem hasn't just arrived  ;)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Costanza on Friday, July 23, 2021, 17:46:17
Killjoy.

You're welcome.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, July 23, 2021, 17:53:22
How big are his hands FFS? (Maybe a distorted image?)

(https://i.imgur.com/tpJZgx9.jpg)

It looks like he's at the Kassam😀


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Friday, July 23, 2021, 18:00:32
I'm the same, loving the pinstripes, but the white patches and the badges just seem to me to be puma trying a little too hard. Overall though as nice a home shirt we have had in a while. I am going to buy either home or away for the first time in a while I reckon so will wait and see what the away one looks like.

Hopefully a white and red alternate because that would look great, although it would require a third kit if we play anyone in red and white stripes.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, July 23, 2021, 18:01:15
Exeter😀


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Friday, July 23, 2021, 18:06:37
I haven't bought a shirt for years and barely wear the retro ones i have. Will put my money down for either the home or away here though.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Banker on Friday, July 23, 2021, 18:11:36
Sharp shirt, the dogs danglies.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Boy About Town on Friday, July 23, 2021, 18:16:39
I fucking love that. Although deliberating about buying one of the remake Spall ones too!

In the words of Lloyd Christmas “We’re really doing this Harry!!”


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, July 23, 2021, 18:17:25
And Stuart Mac!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Friday, July 23, 2021, 18:32:04
I fucking love that. Although deliberating about buying one of the remake Spall ones too!

In the words of Lloyd Christmas “We’re really doing this Harry!!”

Yes I want an old SPALL one where are these for sale please?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, July 23, 2021, 18:36:15
I think this design was a SPALL.

https://theterracestore.com/products/swindon-town-1989-home-retro-shirt?fbclid=IwAR0tuNh683NoXzDzvpHsabDxzbYJnOplDhJZKYSDOuJ-NgIEId4gGJ9xRa8

I keep on meaning to buy one myself.



Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Friday, July 23, 2021, 18:44:49
I think this design was a SPALL.

https://theterracestore.com/products/swindon-town-1989-home-retro-shirt?fbclid=IwAR0tuNh683NoXzDzvpHsabDxzbYJnOplDhJZKYSDOuJ-NgIEId4gGJ9xRa8

I keep on meaning to buy one myself.


I've got an original purchased in 1987 (It is Spall...although they sold them without the sponsor's logo back then for some reason)....and I'm pleased to say that I've slimmed down enough recently to be able to get into it again....happy days  ;)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Boy About Town on Friday, July 23, 2021, 19:08:11
Yes I want an old SPALL one where are these for sale please?

Reissues

https://spallreissue.myshopify.com/


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Friday, July 23, 2021, 19:11:56
New shirt reminds me of the Macari first season.
For that it’s a big yes from me.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Loobug on Friday, July 23, 2021, 19:31:08
New shirt reminds me of the Macari first season.
For that it’s a big yes from me.
I was thinking the same… first season I supported Swindon. I still have the shirt somewhere


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Friday, July 23, 2021, 19:58:35
New shirt reminds me of the Macari first season.
For that it’s a big yes from me.

Hell yeah, it does.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JBZ on Friday, July 23, 2021, 20:10:52
Reissues

https://spallreissue.myshopify.com/

I would like one of these


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Friday, July 23, 2021, 20:43:39
I think this design was a SPALL.

https://theterracestore.com/products/swindon-town-1989-home-retro-shirt?fbclid=IwAR0tuNh683NoXzDzvpHsabDxzbYJnOplDhJZKYSDOuJ-NgIEId4gGJ9xRa8

I keep on meaning to buy one myself.



Your link defaults to 4XL Batch  :)

Season I started going, I should get one.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Christy on Friday, July 23, 2021, 21:49:41
I don't know Shaun but Power had a habit of blocking anyone that crossed him media wise... Hodgett's was walking on eggshells... he's not an 'investigative journo' with eyes only on the issues and had to balance our plight with ensuring Power didn't break all ties with the media considering they had to deliver match day commentary

I don’t know Shaun but…I was stood within earwigging distance of him at Supermarine.

He’s a fan, and up for this.

Has modest expectations, wary of further skeletons, but optimistic - his words - ‘time for change’


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, July 23, 2021, 21:59:12
He's been around since the early 80's and is as big a fan of STFC as us fans but he also has to have his professional head on for His employers so not sure why he's taking so much flack


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Boy About Town on Saturday, July 24, 2021, 00:37:36
He's been around since the early 80's and is as big a fan of STFC as us fans but he also has to have his professional head on for His employers so not sure why he's taking so much flack

Perhaps he can pull his head out of Lee Powers ass. He spoke to Clem like dirt whilst making himself look the fool. Don’t bite the hand that feeds. He acted like a muppet, deserves to be regarded as one until he shows some respect IMO.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Saturday, July 24, 2021, 03:29:03
I'll reserve judgement until I have listened to the interview and then post my thoughts


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: DiV on Saturday, July 24, 2021, 05:51:29
I’ll eat humble pie.
After saying how much I hate the identikit template rubbish and would love something unique- a few days later we get something unique.

You’re welcome Clem - who I can only assume made this decision based on my opinions on the TEF!!
Best home shirt in the last 25 years. Top 3 in the last 30.

Now, an away kit same design but in blue and black would be awesome or even green with yellow lines for the Aussie connection.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, July 24, 2021, 06:22:12
Ordered the new shirt - first time I’ve bought one for donkey’s years.

Hope it has more luck getting here than the one Berniman sent!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Grim Reaper on Saturday, July 24, 2021, 06:27:42
Me too and I don’t normally buy kits. I hope this shirt sells by the bucket load as do season tickets when they go on sale.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: reeves4england on Saturday, July 24, 2021, 06:44:02
Haven’t bought a shirt for about 10 years now but sorely tempted this time around, both because it looks great and because of a desire to throw a little extra support behind the club. Will wait to see what the away kit is like before choosing. Guessing it’ll need announcing soon as it’ll be required at Scunny.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: DiV on Saturday, July 24, 2021, 06:45:19
I’ve just bought two!
Roll on the away kit.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, July 24, 2021, 07:24:31
Just noticed that the Blunsdon House Hotel has offered the club free use of their gym//training facilities for 3 months!

Great gesture!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: leftside on Saturday, July 24, 2021, 07:36:55
Haven’t bought a shirt for about 10 years now but sorely tempted this time around, both because it looks great and because of a desire to throw a little extra support behind the club. Will wait to see what the away kit is like before choosing. Guessing it’ll need announcing soon as it’ll be required at Scunny.
Same here.

I wonder if Town will go for the two kit or three kit option?

I do like a two kit mix and match combo, so black shorts and socks with any of black, blue or green shirts would do for me.

I’m very much enjoying the daily good news releases, it’s such a refreshing contrast to the past few weeks.

Season ticket money is ready to go so I’m looking forward to today’s news.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Ginginho on Saturday, July 24, 2021, 07:39:21
I will get the shirt for me and my lad, but will wait until after payday, hopefully the club shop will be open then to save £5 on shipping!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Saturday, July 24, 2021, 07:41:14
What size should I go for, usually buy XL or XXL T shirts depending on where I buy them. I don't want the wetsuit fit  :)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Ginginho on Saturday, July 24, 2021, 07:43:06
Puma shirts are always on the small side from my experience, so err on the side of caution and go bigger


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Saturday, July 24, 2021, 07:43:35
3XL  :cry:


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JBZ on Saturday, July 24, 2021, 07:44:04
I have just ordered one. I was relieved to note that they go up to 5XL


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Saturday, July 24, 2021, 09:02:36
Do you have a grey beard?  :sherlock:


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Private Fraser on Saturday, July 24, 2021, 10:49:05
Yikes!  First sight of new away shirt:


https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2021/july/202122-away-kit-release/

https://www.stfcdirect.com/2122-kit-training-wear/2122-kit/2122-away-kit/


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Riddick on Saturday, July 24, 2021, 10:52:06
Interesting...Will the shorts be blue as per premier league season and referencing our history as per old badge on home shirt, or have we gone full down under?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Saturday, July 24, 2021, 10:52:24
Yikes!  First sight of new away shirt:

https://twitter.com/Official_STFC/status/1418884125138771969?s=20
Are we Oxford?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Private Fraser on Saturday, July 24, 2021, 10:57:45
I've changed the link to the OS one now. Pretty sure we've had a yellow away shirt previously and, with green shorts, there's not much similarity to that lot down the A420!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JBZ on Saturday, July 24, 2021, 11:13:02
Despite being (wrongfully) accused of seeking 'bites' on the away shirt, I got that right then.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JBZ on Saturday, July 24, 2021, 11:13:59
And the shorts


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, July 24, 2021, 11:26:10
Love the away shirt and will be investing.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Kinky Tom on Saturday, July 24, 2021, 11:31:50
I'm going to hope both are still available at the club shop in Sept/Oct when I'll likely get to a couple of games.  I have both GK shirts from last season so not sure I need another yellow at the moment, I'd like to make my mind up 'face to face' on it but I think I'll get one of the other.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: leftside on Saturday, July 24, 2021, 11:32:53
Yikes!  First sight of new away shirt:


https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2021/july/202122-away-kit-release/

https://www.stfcdirect.com/2122-kit-training-wear/2122-kit/2122-away-kit/
Strewth!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: leftside on Saturday, July 24, 2021, 11:36:16
I've changed the link to the OS one now. Pretty sure we've had a yellow away shirt previously and, with green shorts, there's not much similarity to that lot down the A420!
I can recall three yellow away shirts in my time, the most recent in the Prem season.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JBZ on Saturday, July 24, 2021, 11:38:33
I still have the blue shorts that went with the yellow Loki shirt


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: ibelieveinmrreeves on Saturday, July 24, 2021, 11:44:32
I still have the blue shorts that went with the yellow Loki shirt

I'm a full kit wanker with that kit, thanks to a former colleague who used to work at the club. You can't wear the shorts nowadays as that would constitute indecent exposure.

_ _ _ _

LOVE both kits. Couldn't give a shit that Oxford wear yellow, there is a clear Aussie theme here!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: @mwooly63 on Saturday, July 24, 2021, 13:26:39
I can recall three yellow away shirts in my time, the most recent in the Prem season.

Had a yellow shirt throughout the 80s with it being the 3rd for a few years.
Then the GWR one first couple of years of the 90s before the Loki one mid 90s


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: leftside on Saturday, July 24, 2021, 13:30:18
Had a yellow shirt throughout the 80s with it being the 3rd for a few years.
Then the GWR one first couple of years of the 90s before the Loki one mid 90s
I’ve still got the GWR and Burmah ones. Oddly, the Pox factor never entered my head at the time.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: leftside on Saturday, July 24, 2021, 13:33:58
I still have the blue shorts that went with the yellow Loki shirt
I tried mine on a couple of months ago as I needed something to wear for my walking football debut. The elastic had perished and made a horrible crunching sound as I pulled them up. They still fitted though.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JBZ on Saturday, July 24, 2021, 13:43:30
I tried mine on a couple of months ago as I needed something to wear for my walking football debut. The elastic had perished and made a horrible crunching sound as I pulled them up. They still fitted though.

Last time I tried mine on, there was a Partridge type incident.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Saturday, July 24, 2021, 13:51:49
The home kit is sexual in football kit terms. Cracking nods to Towns history, similarly in the away kit.

With the away kit, seemingly Luongo will shortly be announced...


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Saturday, July 24, 2021, 17:22:58
I’ve still got the GWR and Burmah ones. Oddly, the Pox factor never entered my head at the time.

I expected people to be up in arms at us wearing yellow due to the obvious connection with our friends down the A420. Some people even kicked off when we had the Boca Juniors style away kit a few years ago just because it had a yellow band accross the chest but that doesn't appear to be the case this time. I think it's fine especially as it's an obvious reference to our new owner's home country and as has been said we've had yellow as an away kit a number of times in the past.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, July 24, 2021, 17:25:58
We played in yellow and blue in the PL. Nothing new.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JBZ on Saturday, July 24, 2021, 17:26:09
It is gold rather than yellow


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Boy About Town on Saturday, July 24, 2021, 17:31:09
I need to say this… Clem is the real deal. Had his ear for a few mins. Very much a true gentleman that values supporter influence.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Saturday, July 24, 2021, 17:32:42
It is gold rather than yellow

More yellow than gold if you use the wolves shirt for reference


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Grim Reaper on Saturday, July 24, 2021, 18:04:58
Love both the new kits, presumably they will ship out once sponsorship sorted. Anyone else think it’s likely to see Nationwide return? Would be a massive coup for the club if so.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Old_Town_Red on Saturday, July 24, 2021, 18:28:14
Love both the new kits, presumably they will ship out once sponsorship sorted. Anyone else think it’s likely to see Nationwide return? Would be a massive coup for the club if so.

If the CEO can use his contacts at his former workplace


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: DiV on Saturday, July 24, 2021, 18:31:27
Fine with yellow.
Less fine with yellow & blue.
Premier League the shirt was yellow and green & the shorts were a very light blue so just about got away with it imo


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Saturday, July 24, 2021, 18:36:54
I forgot about this kit in the late 70's


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Kinky Tom on Saturday, July 24, 2021, 18:45:33
I'd love a sash, probably on an away kit, I think they're very cool.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Saturday, July 24, 2021, 18:47:52
Yes same here


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Hunk on Saturday, July 24, 2021, 19:16:54
I need to say this… Clem is the real deal. Had his ear for a few mins. Very much a true gentleman that values supporter influence.

Dare you to post the pic and face reveal your mush at the same time


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Exiled Bob on Saturday, July 24, 2021, 20:24:59
Fine with yellow.
Less fine with yellow & blue.
Premier League the shirt was yellow and green & the shorts were a very light blue so just about got away with it imo
The premier league one was, if I recall correctly, basically the Brazil kit, yellow shirts, pale blue shorts and white socks. Probably as a result of our not giving a shit for defence style of football at the time.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: leftside on Monday, July 26, 2021, 13:41:07
The premier league one was, if I recall correctly, basically the Brazil kit, yellow shirts, pale blue shorts and white socks. Probably as a result of our not giving a shit for defence style of football at the time.
It was, although we had to play In Sheffield Utd’s away socks in our first Prem game.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: RedRag on Monday, July 26, 2021, 14:48:56
I forgot about this kit in the late 70's
With apologies to our more northerly fans...but this was a cool kit:

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/12ygq3dCqx4/maxresdefault.jpg)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, July 26, 2021, 14:52:51
I am very partial to a sash, I have to admit...


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: RedRag on Monday, July 26, 2021, 15:02:52
Was a bit shocked by the yellow and, personally, that shirt won't be for me.

Reassuringly, I see the shorts are due to be green, so the players will be more Norwich City/Soceroos. Please, no yellow shorts though if green doesn't work for any particular game.  The very pale blue of the Premiership would do.  

Cannot begrudge Clem having a Socceroo look so long as it's not confuseable with the threesiders.

The home shirt looks great.



Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Monday, July 26, 2021, 15:03:49
The Kit was all the previous owners decision making


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: RedRag on Monday, July 26, 2021, 15:09:41
The Kit was all the previous owners decision making
Cheers Shrivvy.

Thinking about it, it would have been a bit vain of Clem to be giving much thought to the choice of kit given the urgency of other considerations.

Regardless ...   Oggy, Oggy, Oggy!   Clem, Clem, Clem!



Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Monday, July 26, 2021, 15:25:58
The Kit was all the previous owners decision making

Racking up the bills with an (admittedly nice) bespoke kit?

Away kit a bit of a laugh at clem?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Super Hans on Monday, July 26, 2021, 15:52:42
Sorry if i'm covering old ground but does anyone know the latest on a possible points deduction heading into the new season or when a decision is likely to be made?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: RobertT on Monday, July 26, 2021, 17:22:14
I doubt that one gets resolved until the Standing vs. Power case is sorted - I'd imagine the EFL are hanging off of that to save effort in gathering evidence.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Monday, July 26, 2021, 17:27:51
Doesn't point deductions usually come after months of not paying players and also Admin


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, July 26, 2021, 17:32:31
There’s absolutely no chance of a points deduction for missing paying wages.

The other stuff . . .


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: LucienSanchez on Monday, July 26, 2021, 18:23:32
Anyone getting involved in the fans kick about on 3rd?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Old_Town_Red on Monday, July 26, 2021, 18:35:03
Anyone getting involved in the fans kick about on 3rd?

I am along with my bad knee and terrible fitness


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Monday, July 26, 2021, 18:38:24
Invite Geoff the Ref to officiate  :pint:


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: tans on Tuesday, July 27, 2021, 09:22:45
Fan phone in with Clem and Rob Angus on bbc wilts tonight at 6pm


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, July 27, 2021, 09:23:40
I nobody asks what his favourite cheese is then what's the point?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, July 27, 2021, 09:24:00
Nice one as that could have been easily missed!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Kinky Tom on Tuesday, July 27, 2021, 09:28:30
Yeah, cheers for the heads up.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 27, 2021, 10:37:45
FOOTBALL : A new era at @Official_STFC - Your Questions Answered by chairman Clem Morfuni & chief executive Rob Angus - 1800-1900 tonight on @BBCWiltshire #stfc


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, July 27, 2021, 10:40:32
The Kit was all the previous owners decision making

If this is truly the case - why on earth did Power choose yellow and green of all colours.
Also, if this was Powers call why wasn’t it announced weeks ago - so he could have pocketed any kit sales?

Don’t doubt you’ve been told that but it really doesn’t add up logically (that’s not to say it isn’t still true)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, July 27, 2021, 10:43:08
If this is truly the case - why on earth did Power choose yellow and green of all colours.
Also, if this was Powers call why wasn’t it announced weeks ago - so he could have pocketed any kit sales?

Don’t doubt you’ve been told that but it really doesn’t add up logically (that’s not to say it isn’t still true)

He spent 4 years at Norwich City which was arguably where he enjoyed his 'best' football. Perhaps it's a selfish nod to this? It's not the first time we've had a largely green away kit under Power also, the beautiful green and white one from a few years back springs to mind.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Tuesday, July 27, 2021, 10:52:20
If this is truly the case - why on earth did Power choose yellow and green of all colours.
Also, if this was Powers call why wasn’t it announced weeks ago - so he could have pocketed any kit sales?

Don’t doubt you’ve been told that but it really doesn’t add up logically (that’s not to say it isn’t still true)
Can't tell you why the colours but the reason for late release was the bill was not paid to Puma so they did not hand over the kits until we paid them last week


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, July 27, 2021, 10:58:19
Can't tell you why the colours but the reason for late release was the bill was not paid to Puma so they did not hand over the kits until we paid them last week

I figured as much with regards to why the kits weren’t released till after the takeover

Again, seems odd that Power would go to all that trouble to choose a kit design he had no intention of paying the bill for.

Proper own goal because the kits look ace and Clem will get all the credit for them!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Tuesday, July 27, 2021, 11:03:26
I figured as much with regards to why the kits weren’t released till after the takeover

Again, seems odd that Power would go to all that trouble to choose a kit design he had no intention of paying the bill for.

Proper own goal because the kits look ace and Clem will get all the credit for them!
I believe the kits were chosen before he was ordered to sell the shares.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Boy About Town on Tuesday, July 27, 2021, 11:30:12
FOOTBALL : A new era at @Official_STFC - Your Questions Answered by chairman Clem Morfuni & chief executive Rob Angus - 1800-1900 tonight on @BBCWiltshire #stfc

It will be Hawes interviewing won't it? I'll be turning off and looking for the post interview transcript if it is Hodgetts.

Note: If it is you Hodgetts, show some respect for the fella that has saved our club as well as our new Exec.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Kinky Tom on Tuesday, July 27, 2021, 13:19:34
https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2021/july/don-rogers-to-become-our-official-club-ambassador/

Great to see.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: tans on Tuesday, July 27, 2021, 13:20:17
Like that


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Hyabb17 on Tuesday, July 27, 2021, 13:50:30
New shirt sponsor perhaps?

https://twitter.com/Bartercard


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Tuesday, July 27, 2021, 13:51:55
That's ace 👍

Sent from my XQ-AD51


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: thedarkprince on Tuesday, July 27, 2021, 14:00:46
New shirt sponsor perhaps?

https://twitter.com/Bartercard


That'll do, get those new kits out in the wild!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: tans on Tuesday, July 27, 2021, 14:04:57
They sponsor Oldham too i think


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Kinky Tom on Tuesday, July 27, 2021, 14:06:33
Confirmed

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2021/july/bartercard-announced-as-our-new-principal-parter/


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: thedarkprince on Tuesday, July 27, 2021, 14:12:08
New sponsors on the shirts on stfcdirect.com too


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, July 27, 2021, 14:36:04
New sponsors on the shirts on stfcdirect.com too

The whole package on both shirts is very good IMO.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, July 27, 2021, 14:46:34
I'm not happy with Clem and the team, all these new positive announcements, need to slow down we are not used to this and we need to be able to keep up with the announcements, and take it all in, can we go back to statement Friday


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Tuesday, July 27, 2021, 15:07:57
Well as the club picks itself up and things begin to get straightened out, so does the club crest which had fallen to a very sorry state - nearly broken.

There's still a lot of work to be done but with the arrival of Clem into the station, the Robin has been resuscitated and looking much brighter. Power has gone, most of the stinging nettles have disappeared, the year of establishment is nearly reconfirmed and whilst the football is still not quite fully pumped up yet, Town is once again on the verge of;

"Salubritas Et Industria"

Health & Industry indeed!

Enjoy the rebuilding process :)


Title: Re: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, July 27, 2021, 16:46:26
New sponsors on the shirts on stfcdirect.com too
Looking good, albeit with all those who had preordered before the sponsor was confirmed I had hoped it would be something like buttplugs.com?

Sent from my SM-A125F


Title: Re: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, July 27, 2021, 16:47:00
Well as the club picks itself up and things begin to get straightened out, so does the club crest which had fallen to a very sorry state - nearly broken.

There's still a lot of work to be done but with the arrival of Clem into the station, the Robin has been resuscitated and looking much brighter. Power has gone, most of the stinging nettles have disappeared, the year of establishment is nearly reconfirmed and whilst the football is still not quite fully pumped up yet, Town is once again on the verge of;

"Salubritas Et Industria"

Health & Industry indeed!

Enjoy the rebuilding process :)
You can get that LNER shite off that for a start.....

Sent from my SM-A125F


Title: Re: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Tuesday, July 27, 2021, 20:50:55
You can get that LNER shite off that for a start.....

Sent from my SM-A125F

Haha! As I say...there's still a lot of work to be done. As things progress, we could be looking at a fully "healed" badge by Christmas :)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Leggett on Tuesday, July 27, 2021, 21:13:20
Looking good, albeit with all those who had preordered before the sponsor was confirmed I had hoped it would be something like buttplugs.com?

Sent from my SM-A125F

(https://dildoking.de/static/version1627369547/frontend/Clickpool/default/de_DE/images/logo.png)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: flammableBen on Wednesday, July 28, 2021, 04:12:35
Well as the club picks itself up and things begin to get straightened out, so does the club crest which had fallen to a very sorry state - nearly broken.

There's still a lot of work to be done but with the arrival of Clem into the station, the Robin has been resuscitated and looking much brighter. Power has gone, most of the stinging nettles have disappeared, the year of establishment is nearly reconfirmed and whilst the football is still not quite fully pumped up yet, Town is once again on the verge of;

"Salubritas Et Industria"

Health & Industry indeed!

Enjoy the rebuilding process :)

There were some classic tef badge efforts back in the day. Fuck knows if they still exist anywhere


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Wednesday, July 28, 2021, 12:35:15
Fine with yellow.
Less fine with yellow & blue.
Premier League the shirt was yellow and green & the shorts were a very light blue so just about got away with it imo

White socks don't forget as well. Full Brazil.

Yellow/Gold & Green = Australia, fine
yellow and green shirts, blue shorts and white socks = Brazil, fine
blue with yellow band = boca juniors, fine

yellow and blue shirts, blue shorts = oxford not fine at all. sadly we still managed to make that mistake in the 80s. Lets never repeat it.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, August 1, 2021, 02:58:50
Is ti just me, or does Rob Angus look like Willem Dafoe?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Leggett on Sunday, August 1, 2021, 09:39:49
(https://media.giphy.com/media/yhRnl31SmMec/giphy.gif)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Sunday, August 1, 2021, 10:56:39
no doubt how he looked when offered the CEO job!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, August 3, 2021, 14:59:40
Has it been announced how long the contract is for our new Head Coach ?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Tuesday, August 3, 2021, 15:28:30
To follow on from that, do we actually have an Assistant Manager / Asst Head  Coach / Cone Gatherer or is that a bit last Century?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, August 3, 2021, 15:29:29
(https://media.giphy.com/media/yhRnl31SmMec/giphy.gif)

haha. He's the spitting image isn't he!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: tans on Tuesday, August 3, 2021, 17:43:45
Ticket prices frozen.

Kid a quid being introduced


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, August 3, 2021, 20:22:43
Can't knock those kids prices, very accessible.

Bit of explanation on the noon cut off for tickets on facebook too, it's a covid thing to avoid crowds gathering if they don't have to. Has come from above and not a club decision.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, August 5, 2021, 13:08:20
Great to see this page updated!

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/club/whos-who/


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimpanzee on Thursday, August 5, 2021, 13:10:36
Great to see this page updated!

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/club/whos-who/

Good to see Lee Peacock is also still at the club..I know he was taking training of the 1st team pre-takeover, but hadn't heard much about him since.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, August 5, 2021, 13:28:40
Marcus Cassidy still listed too, guess we're sticking by him then. Hopefully he has cleaned up his act a bit.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, August 5, 2021, 13:30:49
Marcus Cassidy still listed too, guess we're sticking by him then. Hopefully he has cleaned up his act a bit.

Is Academy Administrator Megan McLoughlin any relation of Alan?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, August 5, 2021, 13:31:27
Marcus Cassidy still listed too, guess we're sticking by him then. Hopefully he has cleaned up his act a bit.

He’s been back a while now. Hopefully seeking help for his issues as he’s clearly brilliant at his job.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Thursday, August 5, 2021, 13:34:35
Marcus Cassidy still listed too, guess we're sticking by him then. Hopefully he has cleaned up his act a bit.
He has, i believe he had proffessional help


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Wormholes of Time on Thursday, August 5, 2021, 13:38:08
i've just been over from Stroud to visit the County Ground again and call at the Beehive about a wake for Reg. Spoke to three Academy youngsters at the railway station and all smiles as I congratulated them and said, It's a great feeling. We've got our club back'. A walking football scouser mate in Stroud said I should write something about what 'We've got our club back' means. I dunno if we could start a thread about that. But I'd love to collate and write something about this. I'm going to start this afternoon while it rains.


Title: Re: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, August 5, 2021, 14:18:10
Great to see this page updated!

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/club/whos-who/
Brilliant innit, couple of queries, following the death of Mike Spearman and noting how (so far) the club seem to be going back to their roots and community who they might offer the president to, the Don maybe?

I thought Jack Deaman and had gone? See Seamus Brady still listed thought he was another of Powers circle?

Sent from my SM-A125F


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Red Frog on Thursday, August 5, 2021, 14:20:11
Great to see this page updated!

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/club/whos-who/

I'd take "updated" with a pinch of salt. They've still got Mike Spearman as Honorary President, Jack Deaman as Strength & Conditioning Coach, Seamus Brady as Academy Head...

So I'm not sure that's a guarantee of who's still in post.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Thursday, August 5, 2021, 14:24:56
Great to see this page updated!

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/club/whos-who/

Claire Swindell moved onto Scunthorpe last month .


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, August 5, 2021, 14:29:12
I'd take "updated" with a pinch of salt. They've still got Mike Spearman as Honorary President, Jack Deaman as Strength & Conditioning Coach, Seamus Brady as Academy Head...

So I'm not sure that's a guarantee of who's still in post.

Yeah Horlock also mentioned that. I admit I didn't do forensic analysis but I did notice Seamus Brady and think it was odd. I guess there is still work in progress being done.

Wasn't Don Rogers going to be honorary president or did I dream that?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Red Frog on Thursday, August 5, 2021, 14:58:00
Claire Swindell moved onto Scunthorpe last month .

Wasn't really a name that sat well with our club.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: michael on Thursday, August 5, 2021, 15:01:32
My one ever bit of ITK, the new Head of Fitness Alun Andrews, has already left the club.

It is almost as if it never even happened.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Berniman on Thursday, August 5, 2021, 16:27:47

Wasn't Don Rogers going to be honorary president or did I dream that?

Announced last week - Club Ambassador and on the advisory board

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2021/july/don-rogers-to-become-our-official-club-ambassador/


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: tans on Thursday, August 5, 2021, 18:25:02
My one ever bit of ITK, the new Head of Fitness Alun Andrews, has already left the club.

It is almost as if it never even happened.

The kieran freeman of fitness staff


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: mexico red on Thursday, August 5, 2021, 18:51:49
Highlight for me is for the first time ever I'm logging into the official site two or three times a day to get up to date news


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: china red on Thursday, August 5, 2021, 20:10:42
My one ever bit of ITK, the new Head of Fitness Alun Andrews, has already left the club.

It is almost as if it never even happened.

As in the person Power employed?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, August 6, 2021, 08:38:56
As in the person Power employed?
Yes, McGreal brought him in and he didn't leave when JMcG left, this is no surprise as Garner will want his own man in.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Friday, August 6, 2021, 09:52:31
Quote from: Peter Venkman
Quote
As in the person Power employed?
Yes, McGreal brought him in and he didn't leave when JMcG left, this is no surprise as Garner will want his own man in.


aaaah. I see


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: RedRag on Monday, August 9, 2021, 09:13:02
We start with a blank page.

Whilst feeling sorry for recent Championship interlopers, Yeovil, this was an interesting article on Premiership Brentford's journey from League Two.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58137450+

Looking forward to forging our own destiny as we re-start once again in League 2.

C'mon Swindon :pint:


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, August 9, 2021, 09:29:24
I’m taking Clem at face value here, seeing as, to date, he has done exactly what he said he would do.

The fact that he has said he, personally, doesn’t need/want to take money out if the club gives us a big advantage over most other clubs financially.

When you tot up all the income streams - dramatically increased with Clem taking over - I’d be fairly certain the club is more than self sufficient. What could propel us up the leagues even faster is a good cup run. Lincoln’s fortunes have been on the up off the back of 2 such runs.

Saying that, I wouldn’t be surprised to see us crash and burn tomorrow. As per.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, August 9, 2021, 09:30:33
I imagine Clem will be at the CG on Saturday continuing his charm offensive and then he is surely back to Oz and leaving Aberdeen Angus in charge going forward?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Tails on Monday, August 9, 2021, 09:47:00
I imagine Clem will be at the CG on Saturday continuing his charm offensive and then he is surely back to Oz and leaving Aberdeen Angus in charge going forward?

He said he's due to go back reasonably soon but doesn't think they'll let him back in!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Old_Town_Red on Monday, August 9, 2021, 10:03:50
He said he's due to go back reasonably soon but doesn't think they'll let him back in!

I believe Rob said on the OSC phone in last week that Clem was here until mid September


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: thedarkprince on Monday, August 9, 2021, 10:36:52
He said he's due to go back reasonably soon but doesn't think they'll let him back in!

Oz have some of the strictest limitations on who can enter (or leave) their country at the moment. Reckon Clem could be here for awhile.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Monday, August 9, 2021, 10:38:02
Oz have some of the strictest limitations on who can enter (or leave) their country at the moment. Reckon Clem could be here for awhile.

This.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimpanzee on Monday, August 9, 2021, 10:39:04
I imagine Clem will be at the CG on Saturday continuing his charm offensive and then he is surely back to Oz and leaving Aberdeen Angus in charge going forward?

On the Loathed Strangers podcast, he did say Rob would run things day to day as he just didn't have the time. It sounds like he has his fingers in lots of pies, not just Axis & STFC. I'd imagine he will oversee things for a few weeks or so, get the basics in place, oversee the transfer window & ST sales and then keep an eye on things from afar.



Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: tans on Monday, August 9, 2021, 16:21:13
Ben Garner on the Supporters Club Facebook panel this evening at 7pm


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Monday, August 9, 2021, 18:37:32
Ben Garner on the Supporters Club Facebook panel this evening at 7pm
Was he on early? I turned on at 7.30pm and he wasnt there.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: reeves4england on Tuesday, August 10, 2021, 08:17:58
Was he on early? I turned on at 7.30pm and he wasnt there.
It's available to watch here NMH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnfipIi61Is&t=1s


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Riddick on Tuesday, August 10, 2021, 16:05:44
I think it really bizarre that we are not using squad numbers 13 to 21, given there is no way we expect 9 more players to sign.

Is this conspiracy guy onto something?

https://twitter.com/callex03/status/1425066535144591361 (https://twitter.com/callex03/status/1425066535144591361)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, August 10, 2021, 16:13:15
Seems entirely feasible.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, August 10, 2021, 21:25:14
It's available to watch here NMH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnfipIi61Is&t=1s
Thank you. I watched back. Thought Garner spoke very well.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Private Fraser on Friday, August 13, 2021, 10:59:31
A Friday Statement!

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2021/august/club-statement---zavier-austin/


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, August 13, 2021, 11:04:09
A Friday Statement!

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2021/august/club-statement---zavier-austin/

Wow, what an absolutely positive statement by Clem. Can do nothing but applaud him.

What was the attack on Zav Austin all about then? I've not heard anything about that before.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, August 13, 2021, 11:09:48
Can guess


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, August 13, 2021, 11:10:36
Can guess

Yeah It's clearly down to our ex-owners as Clem wouldn't have mentioned it otherwise.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, August 13, 2021, 11:11:18
Top statement, I assume the attack on Zav Austin has some sort of connection to the club or something for it to have been raised in such a way?

As an aside is there a Mrs Morfuni as I suspect that might also have some bearing on how much time he spends in the UK?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Super Hans on Friday, August 13, 2021, 11:14:20
A Friday Statement!

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2021/august/club-statement---zavier-austin/
Reading that gave me goosebumps. Hadn't quite appreciated the gap there was between ownership and fans. I knew it was poor but i guess you just get used to it. What a difference a bit of communication makes. The whole club appears to be pulling in the same direction on every level.

The bar was set low but Clem has already exceeded my expectations in terms of how he represents the club.

This appears to be a Swindon Town we can be proud of and i'm all in for it.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Riddick on Friday, August 13, 2021, 11:14:57
Wow, what an absolutely positive statement by Clem. Can do nothing but applaud him.

What was the attack on Zav Austin all about then? I've not heard anything about that before.

Are we saying the attack was STFC/Power related?

When i saw him at the posh friendly his arm was in a sling.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, August 13, 2021, 11:16:24
 There’s a fella on the Rochdale forum who has been fantastic in digging out info on Curran and his associates trying to get their claws into the club. I suspect The Slug is lurking somewhere.

The story behind his Roller is an eye opener. Looks suspiciously like it was used to clean his laundry *cough*.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, August 13, 2021, 11:18:26
Top statement, I assume the attack on Zav Austin has some sort of connection to the club or something for it to have been raised in such a way?

As an aside is there a Mrs Morfuni as I suspect that might also have some bearing on how much time he spends in the UK?

I suspect you aren't on twitter but there is a lady called Sara who lives in Sydney who has retweeting a lot of Clem stuff and posting information to fans about what is happening at the club. I think she is Clem's wife or GF.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, August 13, 2021, 11:20:41
Just looking online and I note that as it stands Power is still a Director of STFC Ltd, Seebeck and Swinton? I assume that will be sorted in due course, but would be nice to see 'resigned' next to Powers name....


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, August 13, 2021, 11:21:27
I suspect you aren't on twitter but there is a lady called Sara who lives in Sydney who has retweeting a lot of Clem stuff and posting information to fans about what is happening at the club. I think she is Clem's wife or GF.

I am on that Twitter, I will have to hunt this mysterious Sara down...


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, August 13, 2021, 11:25:00
For those interested here’s the Rochdale lowdown on Curran

https://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/rochdale/forum/275065/the-gifted-rolls-royce--why-morton-house-must-fail-the-efl-test-(part-6)/#21


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Samdy Gray on Friday, August 13, 2021, 11:25:49
I'm a little bit cautious about Zavier Austin, he was the one to originally introduce Clem to Power and is the last remaining connection to Power and his underworld cronies.

Perhaps someone who's a bit more informed might be able to comment on his credentials.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Private Fraser on Friday, August 13, 2021, 11:28:21
Just looking online and I note that as it stands Power is still a Director of STFC Ltd, Seebeck and Swinton? I assume that will be sorted in due course, but would be nice to see 'resigned' next to Powers name....

I saw this some time ago. Authentic?

https://twitter.com/KieranMaguire/status/1423527003655921665?s=20



Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, August 13, 2021, 11:30:43
I am on that Twitter, I will have to hunt this mysterious Sara down...

SarzSwindon is her name on Twitter.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Private Fraser on Friday, August 13, 2021, 11:32:16
I am on that Twitter, I will have to hunt this mysterious Sara down...

Here you go:

@sarahg_100


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, August 13, 2021, 11:44:30
I saw this some time ago. Authentic?

https://twitter.com/KieranMaguire/status/1423527003655921665?s=20



That's legit, but only shows that he has ceased to be a person with significant control, as it stand he remains listed as a director.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Friday, August 13, 2021, 11:44:42
I'm a little bit cautious about Zavier Austin, he was the one to originally introduce Clem to Power and is the last remaining connection to Power and his underworld cronies.

Perhaps someone who's a bit more informed might be able to comment on his credentials.
Genuinely believe like literally everyone else that Power charmed him and then fucked him over. In the beginning Power had the links with spurs had money coming in and didn't fuck anyone over.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Costanza on Friday, August 13, 2021, 12:10:35
Morfuni, Austin, Standing... there's a whole lot of naivity in this racket, isn't there?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Friday, August 13, 2021, 12:18:08
Morfuni, Austin, Standing... there's a whole lot of naivity in this racket, isn't there?


Unfortunately I think you have to give Power credit for being the successful conman he is. I'd say he had maybe 95% of our fanbase fooled initially and it was a case of the pendulum taking 8 years or so to very slowly swing in the other direction.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: @MacPhlea on Friday, August 13, 2021, 12:25:17
That's legit, but only shows that he has ceased to be a person with significant control, as it stand he remains listed as a director.

I WOULD KEEP HIM AS DIRECTOR UNTIL EVERY LAST SKELETON IS DRAGGED OUT FROM EVERY LAST CUPBOARD AND USED AS GALLOWS TO HANG HIM BY


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Quagmire on Friday, August 13, 2021, 12:25:53
What could possibly go wrong.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4714579.stm


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Boy About Town on Friday, August 13, 2021, 12:26:11
Reading that gave me goosebumps. Hadn't quite appreciated the gap there was between ownership and fans. I knew it was poor but i guess you just get used to it. What a difference a bit of communication makes. The whole club appears to be pulling in the same direction on every level.

The bar was set low but Clem has already exceeded my expectations in terms of how he represents the club.

This appears to be a Swindon Town we can be proud of and i'm all in for it.

Goosebumps? Get a grip?

On a serious note though, a incredible amount can be interpreted from that.


Title: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Friday, August 13, 2021, 12:28:27
Quote
What could possibly go wrong.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4714579.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4714579.stm)
ours is Xavier not xaver, and would have been 35 in 2005

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/officers/6eH2BTXjHjaZ2Je4PNCPxTCoWFc/appointments (https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/officers/6eH2BTXjHjaZ2Je4PNCPxTCoWFc/appointments)

relative, I don't know


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, August 13, 2021, 12:30:11
What could possibly go wrong.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4714579.stm
Fuck me. That’s jumping the gun a bit quick. Have you fact checked are just assumed?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Quagmire on Friday, August 13, 2021, 12:31:50
I’m a Swindon fan - it’s what we do.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: RobertT on Friday, August 13, 2021, 12:34:26
Haha - that's quite spooky.  I think ours is the one that owns TES, not the money laundering drug mule, although the latter would equally be a good fit in all this.

Seems he owns a horse or two as well, imagine that could have been the Power connection.  Construction is clearly the Clem connection.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: RobertT on Friday, August 13, 2021, 12:37:02
Zavier and Zaver do appear to have lived in the same address though!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Frigby Daser on Friday, August 13, 2021, 12:37:09
What could possibly go wrong.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4714579.stm

A LinkedIn search for Zavier Austin has someone of that name as MD of TES Facilities, from Bromley. The bbc link is also someone from Bromley. I hope it’s not the same person. A club intent on showing good governance and transparency doesn’t appoint a convicted money launderer as a Director or Vice Chairman. I hope I’m wrong. Expect the man of mystery will become public soon.

Edit: the LinkedIn says he was at Dulwich College from 83-88 (if that’s him). If that’s the case then he’s about 50+ now. The money launderer is late 30s. Phew.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, August 13, 2021, 12:38:24
A LinkedIn search for Zavier Austin has someone of that name as MD of TES Facilities, from Bromley. The bbc link is also someone from Bromley. I hope it’s not the same person. A club intent on showing good governance and transparency doesn’t appoint a convicted money launderer as a Director or Vice Chairman. I hope I’m wrong.
Zavier was born in 1970 and this chap would have been born in 1982. So unlikely the same bloke.


Title: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Friday, August 13, 2021, 12:40:59
but could be a relative.

or not


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Costanza on Friday, August 13, 2021, 12:41:31
Google isn't always your friend.

I'm still on the fence with Morfuni and I spend most of my time feeling bad about that. Lee Power has heightened my sense of distrust when it comes to football business.

The PR drive has been impressive, the football stuff more so and I'm enjoying the majority of it all but it will take a bit more that pulling pints and posing for selfies before I can relax.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Boy About Town on Friday, August 13, 2021, 12:41:40
Could be a junior?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Frigby Daser on Friday, August 13, 2021, 12:44:23
Google isn't always your friend.

I'm still on the fence with Morfuni and I spend most of my time feeling bad about that. Lee Power has heightened my sense of distrust when it comes to football business.

The PR drive has been impressive, the football stuff more so and I'm enjoying the majority of it all but it will take a bit more that pulling pints and posing for selfies before I can relax.

I think this appointment brought some of those same feelings back. I’d like to know why we’re appointing someone connected to Power… or just a bit about him. Who he is, what he does etc would be a start.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: RobertT on Friday, August 13, 2021, 12:45:47
10 minutes of Google stalking leads me to hypothesise that Zaver is Zavier's younger brother.  Zaver's wife, Kellie, is also listed at the same company as Zavier.  I'm going with them being married based on the fact they appear to live at the same address and be around the same age.  Zavier & Zaver have both resided at the same Bromley address before.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: wisemensay1879 on Friday, August 13, 2021, 12:47:29
The presence of Zavier Austin is what is preventing me jumping aboard the Clem Morfuni fun bus. It really concerns me that this might all just be a case of 'meet the new boss, same as the old boss.'

We know that Austin was an associate of Lee Power, which is worrying enough in the first place. He is also clearly a longstanding associate of Morfuni.

A cursory google turns up an appearance by a 'Zav Austin' in a book called 'Born Gangster' by Jimmy Tippet Jr, which appears to be your standard airport bookshop dross gangster biography, and contains the following passages:

"I was a Tippett and, as Dad said, we Tippetts were 'born to fight'. A few weeks later I was taking on Zav Austin, a bookmaker from Beckenham. I knew Zav already - he was a pretty boy who fancied himself as a bit of a face, one of those who talked the talk but couldn't walk the walk."

"I was determined to obliterate Zav because there'd always been a lot of rivalry between us and he'd recently run off with the wife of a major drugs baron I knew."

"Reggie Kray heard about my fight with Zav and offered to sponsor a rematch from his prison cell. But, before he could get around to organising it, Zav was kneecapped outside a paper shop in Bromley by contract killer James 'Jimbles' Tomkins. This was a warning to Zav to stay away from the drug baron's missus."

Now, there could be more than one Zav or Zavier Austin from Beckenham, but somehow I doubt it, and he sounds like the sort of chap I would expect to be chums with Lee Power.

What should concern any right minded Town fan is that our new saviour has just given this bloke his second glowing character reference and basically said he will be at the helm in his absence.

A known associate of Power with the history above. Who brought Clem Morfuni to the club. And is now being attacked by 'thugs' in front of his children. If this isn't ringing alarm bells I don't know what will.

I'm not saying that people need to wake up, but I do think people need to start asking questions. What is the Trust view on Austin?

I've had lots of worries about Morfuni that I've let be drowned out by the prospect of getting rid of Power (his endless talk of Axis' turnover rather than profit, his UK business issues, the fact that he was involved with Power himself, the glaring lack of any normal reason for him to get involved in our football club etc) but this one just won't go away.

The Trust keep saying they've done their due diligence. I hope that they have. No selfies with Clem for me just yet.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Friday, August 13, 2021, 12:58:05
Morfuni, Austin, Standing... there's a whole lot of naivity in this racket, isn't there?

Lot's more than that to be fair. Look at the clubs and sponsors he also done. Even his own mates have taken him to court


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, August 13, 2021, 13:07:26
Looking at the accounts of TES, I’m surprised he can afford a cat let alone racehorses.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Frigby Daser on Friday, August 13, 2021, 13:10:05
Austin also owns horses. Likely to be the Power link. Let’s hope Curran doesn’t get bored at Rochdale…


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Costanza on Friday, August 13, 2021, 13:10:52
Lot's more than that to be fair. Look at the clubs and sponsors he also done. Even his own mates have taken him to court

You can list them all but I'll still need convincing and I blame Power for that outlook. Ultimately I'll judge Morfuni on his Town tenure.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: wisemensay1879 on Friday, August 13, 2021, 13:14:52
https://courtnewsuk.co.uk/a-fall-guy-who-helped-run-a-pnds-stlg-12-5-milli/

I'm not registered on this site but 'Court News UK' seem to have the nefarious 'Zaver Austin' as 34 years old in 2005.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, August 13, 2021, 13:22:39
Have to say that the Zav(i)er Austin statement has seen the first doubts creep into my mind. Ignoring the imprisonment story from 2005, the fact that he was a colleague of Power's during his reign and is now our vice chairman doesn't sit easily. Yes, he eventually fell out with Power but because of the type of men Power had in his circle the fact this fella is now Clem's 'second in charge' is a bit worrying.  

I hope the Trust have done some due diligence on him and will make some kind of statement soon?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Friday, August 13, 2021, 13:25:09
Quote from: Costanza
Google isn't always your friend.

I'm still on the fence with Morfuni and I spend most of my time feeling bad about that. Lee Power has heightened my sense of distrust when it comes to football business.

The PR drive has been impressive, the football stuff more so and I'm enjoying the majority of it all but it will take a bit more that pulling pints and posing for selfies before I can relax.

I think that's a fair enough attitude isn't it.

like you say, the proof will be in the pudding


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: kaufman on Friday, August 13, 2021, 13:26:04
This is the first time under the Clem era that many fans and myself will want the trust to look into this appointment and it'll need some explaining.

It's also the first time that Clem will probably not get away with just this statement and will need to expand further on Austin's past and links. Austin will no doubt have to do this himself.

"Open and Transparent" has been said more than the word Swindon in the interviews these past few weeks.
Anyone within a high position in the club has no option but to be so, or else it undoes everything they spoke about almost straight away.

I wish he would have put the statement out after the weekend although to be fair to him, Clem has spoken about Austin a few times during and after the takeover.

Richard Selbourne wrote a piece for the trust that they tweeted in July.
https://twitter.com/TrustSTFC/status/1421115774853427208



Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Leggett on Friday, August 13, 2021, 13:33:07
Oh god, instant dread reading the (potential) history...


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, August 13, 2021, 13:33:23
Not sure if I am reading too much into this but the statement that appeared on the STFC website was not 'introduced' via Twitter, which I believe all other online statements were.  :hmmm:


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, August 13, 2021, 13:36:59
Lets not judge anything until we get the facts.

No knee jerk reactions, I know we are all worried hes cut from the same cloth as Power but maybe he isn't.

Lets not let this spoil the party until it looks like it has been proved to be spoilt.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Frigby Daser on Friday, August 13, 2021, 13:40:03
I think this could do with some more from the club before the day is out. It's a potential own goal and dangerous for the club/fan relationship. If we've got the wrong man, then say so. if you have a reason to believe that the convicted money launderer, who appears to keep the kind of company that results in him getting beaten up at the age of 50, and (potentially) gets referenced in wideboy guides to drug running, is the best man for the job then please say why...


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Friday, August 13, 2021, 13:40:22
You can list them all but I'll still need convincing and I blame Power for that outlook. Ultimately I'll judge Morfuni on his Town tenure.
100 Percent. I have no doubt we will hear from him soon


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, August 13, 2021, 13:41:09
The saving grace is Aberdeen Angus being CEO. Presume he’s responsible for the day to day running of the club.

Not sure what a Vice Chairman’s input would be.

My worry is that it’s Clem that hasn’t done his due diligence on Austin.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: kaufman on Friday, August 13, 2021, 14:03:06
I was going to tweet the trust to ask if they planned to look into this and then just stopped.
They, more than anyone will know it's these kind of issues that need looking at, and with their membership at their highest, it's in their interest to make sure they hold Morfuni to account.

Of course they are also on this forum :)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: RobertT on Friday, August 13, 2021, 14:16:01
The saving grace is Aberdeen Angus being CEO. Presume he’s responsible for the day to day running of the club.

Not sure what a Vice Chairman’s input would be.

My worry is that it’s Clem that hasn’t done his due diligence on Austin.

I imagine he knows enough.  It looks possible it's a younger brother who got the conviction - such a thing would potentially appear on the EFL checks anyway as it is one of the few things they do worry about.

Zavier at the very least is from the do it yourself construction background, done quite good.  Clem is similar but done better.  I have no doubt they have crossed the paths of some very dodgy characters in their time given that industry and Zavier has family exposure at a minimum.  At least Zavier should be able to tart up the Corporate Hospitality rooms.

As mentioned  by someone else, Angus is the day to day person running the club.  Zavier will act as the voting member on behalf of Clem when he is not around I imagine.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Friday, August 13, 2021, 14:16:03
Not being controversial here but it would be a bit dense to name two sons with virtually the same name...

"Zaver, come 'ere!"
"No, not you Zavier."

I'd put a pretty confident bet on Zaver/Zavier/Xavier being the same bloke. The fact we can't necessarily confirm or tie down something as simple as his age and name is a bit of a red flag. "Open and transparent" we keep hearing.

Would not surprise me if there's been more snuff peddled via Lausanne Lee's pals than a Chandler Bing house party.

We appear to have "got our club back" but at what expense? A "former" drug peddler hardly speaks as an "open and transparent" or "a family friendly club" or is that ok now?

Yet I'm aware people can and do change; let's hope Mr Austin has changed his spots...

NB: Owns a horse named "Power Il Topo"... not sure, if that's a play on words but the horse has only been in service since June this year too. Small coincidence :eek:


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, August 13, 2021, 14:17:41
The presence of Zavier Austin is what is preventing me jumping aboard the Clem Morfuni fun bus. It really concerns me that this might all just be a case of 'meet the new boss, same as the old boss.'

We know that Austin was an associate of Lee Power, which is worrying enough in the first place. He is also clearly a longstanding associate of Morfuni.

A cursory google turns up an appearance by a 'Zav Austin' in a book called 'Born Gangster' by Jimmy Tippet Jr, which appears to be your standard airport bookshop dross gangster biography, and contains the following passages:

"I was a Tippett and, as Dad said, we Tippetts were 'born to fight'. A few weeks later I was taking on Zav Austin, a bookmaker from Beckenham. I knew Zav already - he was a pretty boy who fancied himself as a bit of a face, one of those who talked the talk but couldn't walk the walk."

"I was determined to obliterate Zav because there'd always been a lot of rivalry between us and he'd recently run off with the wife of a major drugs baron I knew."

"Reggie Kray heard about my fight with Zav and offered to sponsor a rematch from his prison cell. But, before he could get around to organising it, Zav was kneecapped outside a paper shop in Bromley by contract killer James 'Jimbles' Tomkins. This was a warning to Zav to stay away from the drug baron's missus."

Now, there could be more than one Zav or Zavier Austin from Beckenham, but somehow I doubt it, and he sounds like the sort of chap I would expect to be chums with Lee Power.

What should concern any right minded Town fan is that our new saviour has just given this bloke his second glowing character reference and basically said he will be at the helm in his absence.

A known associate of Power with the history above. Who brought Clem Morfuni to the club. And is now being attacked by 'thugs' in front of his children. If this isn't ringing alarm bells I don't know what will.

I'm not saying that people need to wake up, but I do think people need to start asking questions. What is the Trust view on Austin?

I've had lots of worries about Morfuni that I've let be drowned out by the prospect of getting rid of Power (his endless talk of Axis' turnover rather than profit, his UK business issues, the fact that he was involved with Power himself, the glaring lack of any normal reason for him to get involved in our football club etc) but this one just won't go away.

The Trust keep saying they've done their due diligence. I hope that they have. No selfies with Clem for me just yet.


https://courtnewsuk.co.uk/a-fall-guy-who-helped-run-a-pnds-stlg-12-5-milli/

I'm not registered on this site but 'Court News UK' seem to have the nefarious 'Zaver Austin' as 34 years old in 2005.

First two posts on this forum......

You may be right, but much as Austin's potential appointment sets my eyebrows a twitter, so does your sudden appearance.

Its a cautious wait and see from me, it was never going to be easy was it....


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, August 13, 2021, 14:21:09

I'd put a pretty confident bet on Zaver/Zavier/Xavier being the same bloke. The fact we can't necessarily confirm or tie down something as simple as his age and name is a bit of a red flag. "Open and transparent" we keep hearing.

Unless he has been bullshitting to Companies House the DoB of the Zavier Austin who is a Director of TES is easily found on CH, he is presently 50 and will be 51 next month. 


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: wisemensay1879 on Friday, August 13, 2021, 14:23:09
Fair enough! Just a lifelong fan sat here watching what looks like a rather strange personality cult forming and wondering why no-one is asking what seems to be a fairly glaring question.

As someone said earlier, I can't imagine someone with Rob Angus' business background getting into bed with a (potentially) convicted criminal, so lets just hope they have done their homework and haven't been blinded by baubles and access to the club that we all love.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, August 13, 2021, 14:26:11
Fair enough! Just a lifelong fan sat here watching what looks like a rather strange personality cult forming and wondering why no-one is asking what seems to be a fairly glaring question.

As someone said earlier, I can't imagine someone with Rob Angus' business background getting into bed with a (potentially) convicted criminal, so lets just hope they have done their homework and haven't been blinded by baubles and access to the club that we all love.

No worries I generally agree with all you say above. As stated previously the Trust have a hell of a lot riding on this as if any mucky skeletons crawl out the woodwork their credibility is shot to shit, that's why at this stage in them I trust.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Friday, August 13, 2021, 14:27:52
Unless he has been bullshitting to Companies House the DoB of the Zavier Austin who is a Director of TES is easily found on CH, he is presently 50 and will be 51 next month. 

Yes but in light of the previous history presented to us... what about "Zaver"... who we aren't sure (looking at different reports) if he was 23 or 35 in 2005 (when convicted).

If it's 35 then it's very likely our new VC. Which then brings me back to my point about sibling naming. If the offence was by his "brother" aged 23 at the time...I'm struggling to see why the parents would name them with almost identical names?

It's akin to naming one kid John and the other Jon?!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Costanza on Friday, August 13, 2021, 14:31:01
We are hurtling towards the dangerous ground of getting our Austin's mixed up and inaccurate information being distributed.

If the Zavier Austin has a murky past, it'll be sourced without needing Google.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, August 13, 2021, 14:32:08
Lets not judge anything until we get the facts.

No knee jerk reactions, I know we are all worried hes cut from the same cloth as Power but maybe he isn't.

Lets not let this spoil the party until it looks like it has been proved to be spoilt.

Fair points JJ. I have probably been unfairly swayed by the conviction links that may or may not pertain to him. Also re the ex-Power links I was talking to someone about this and he reminded me that Clem is effectively an ex-Power man so perhaps we need to cut them some slack until we know and hear more about him.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Friday, August 13, 2021, 14:33:19
well, at least one trust member reads this forum. we'll see if further information is forthcoming


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: tans on Friday, August 13, 2021, 14:33:49
Looked at linked in, he left school in 1988. That bloke in that article isnt him, unless he left school when he was 6


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, August 13, 2021, 14:36:47
Fair points JJ. I have probably been unfairly swayed by the conviction links that may or may not pertain to him. Also re the ex-Power links I was talking to someone about this and he reminded me that Clem is effectively an ex-Power man so perhaps we need to cut them some slack until we know and hear more about him.

I was about to post exactly the same re Power/Morfuni.

Which then brings me back to my point about sibling naming. If the offence was by his "brother" aged 23 at the time...I'm struggling to see why the parents would name them with almost identical names?

I wouldn't read too much into it, could just be down to some crap transcribing/reporting.

As an example on CH they record what is written, so to use and example (and not suggesting anything nefarious as I see it all the time) with Power not all his Directorships come up under a search for Lee Power, some are under Lee Michael Power for instance and the system doesn't tie them up and treats them as two different people.

Oh and FWIW going back through filings CH has Austin resident in Wales until 2015.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: wisemensay1879 on Friday, August 13, 2021, 14:39:59
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fevfyp3hzPM

Skip to 1:08 for Jimmy Tippett Jr talking about his fight with 'Zav' that one can only assume is mentioned in the book. He says it took place in 1997. Our Mr Austin would have been in his mid 20s at that point so seems plausible.

I agree with Rich however that this is all potentially 2+2=5 conjecture but we've just had nearly a decade of being rather badly burnt. It warrants a straightforward answer from our open and transparent club and Trust. Is Mr Kneecap victim and drugs cash launderer our man or not? As stated, the Court News UK article puts him bang in the age range of our fella. If not I wish him every success.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, August 13, 2021, 14:41:24
Clem seems open enough on the clubs website

Swindon Town Owner Clem Morfuni would like to make the following statement in regards to Zavier Austin:

I would like to announce that I will be applying to the EFL to make Zavier Austin a board member and I would also like to appoint him as Vice Chairman of the Club. As I said in my statement when I took over, Zav was the person that brought me to the club 7 years ago and Zav has helped me so much over the past 2 years to become the owner for which I am extremely grateful to him. Zav is a huge fan of Swindon Town Football Club and is determined to help in every possible way that he can to do the very best for this great Club. He is going to be a very important part of the Club going forward. Obviously, being based in Australia, I cannot be here for large parts of the season and I feel it is very important that we have a fully committed Vice Chairman to represent the club in my absence.

Most unfortunately, Zav was the victim of a brutal, cowardly and wholly unprovoked attack two months ago by two thugs which hospitalised him and, to make it all the more despicable, the attack was carried out in front of his 12 year old daughter who was traumatised by such an event. There really are no words to describe such disgraceful, disgusting and utterly criminal behaviour, for which there should be no place in a decent and civilised society. It is therefore to be hoped that the persons responsible will feel the fullest force of the law and receive all appropriate justice in due course. Fortunately, Zav is now very much on the mend and will be sitting next to me at the first home game on Saturday.


Zav is one of so many people I want to profusely thank. What has happened over the last 3 weeks has amazed me; I already knew what a great Club this was but the support I have had since the takeover went through has been beyond anything I could ever have imagined. Every single person within the Club has gone so far above and beyond what one would normally expect; the togetherness and the desire to turn this Club around is a theme running vigorously through the whole of it and gives me so much belief that we are going to do something very special together. One, of probably a hundred, examples I can give was when I was in the Club building the other night at 11 pm and I saw Ricky Mcfarlane (Head of Strength & Conditioning) leaving the building. I asked why he was still here and he said he had been preparing the players’ breakfasts for the morning. That sums up the fantastic attitude that everyone at the Club has, with everybody mucking in, everybody doing whatever it takes, giving absolutely everything to help us be successful.

I also have to say a huge, and I mean truly huge, ‘THANK YOU’ to all our supporters; it has honestly blown me, and everyone within the club, away. The support you have given us already, has been incredible. Saturday was one of the best days of my life. I know we won’t win every week and, to be honest, I did not think we would win that first game as most of the squad had only had a 2 week pre-season and had to get to know new staff. This made it even more special but that is why I am here, for moments and days like last Saturday. I know that every match day will not be like that and we will of course have our highs and lows, as every club does, but while our stated aim for this season is to stabilise the Club, remain in League 2 and provide a sound platform for the future, I have so much faith in everybody within and around the Club and our truly incredible supporters that, who knows, we might just surprise people!

Season tickets are flying, especially when you consider most of them have been bought out of the shop window; shirt sales are flying too; we are all turning it around already!

It’s been a long time since we’ve had our magnificent fans in The County Ground, so let’s get behind Ben and the boys and blow the roof off on Saturday!

WE’VE GOT OUR SWINDON BACK.

Clem


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Quagmire on Friday, August 13, 2021, 14:43:37
Did Clem’s initial statement not state that Austin would be on the shadow board? Now he’s coming in as Vice chairman.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, August 13, 2021, 14:47:06
Fair points JJ. I have probably been unfairly swayed by the conviction links that may or may not pertain to him. Also re the ex-Power links I was talking to someone about this and he reminded me that Clem is effectively an ex-Power man so perhaps we need to cut them some slack until we know and hear more about him.
Knowing Power, though, he would only invite somebody into the club that he was fairly certain was a bit of a kindred spirit - he wouldn’t want anyone asking questions as to various practices.

Presume Clem was attractive because of the £1.1m and he then quickly fucked him over and cut him out if the STFC loop.

I cant believe Clem would jeopardise all his good work the past 3 weeks. Just why did he include the assault bit in that statement. Weird.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Costanza on Friday, August 13, 2021, 14:47:36
Did Clem’s initial statement not state that Austin would be on the shadow board? Now he’s coming in as Vice chairman.

Correct. I imagine it was always the plan to have Austin on the main board though.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, August 13, 2021, 15:09:55
Some good editing work here



Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: RWB Robin on Friday, August 13, 2021, 15:12:43
So many contributions using phrases like 'I imagine'. Ask the questions, absolutely, but don't imagine your own answers. That's how we go downhill. Wait for the answers  which will surely come.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Friday, August 13, 2021, 15:13:33
such a thing would potentially appear on the EFL checks anyway as it is one of the few things they do worry about.

It's come to light recently that the EFL basically just checks to see if you have access to funds and makes very little moral judgement. Which is how Lee Power was allowed to take us over after being involved in the downfall of Luton, Rushden and Diamonds and Cambridge, one would assume.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Friday, August 13, 2021, 15:14:49

I'd put a pretty confident bet on Zaver/Zavier/Xavier being the same bloke.

no judgement on this bloke just yet but its all a bit Jed McCoy/ Jed McRory/ Jed McCrory.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: ron dodgers on Friday, August 13, 2021, 16:45:34
Fair enough! Just a lifelong fan sat here watching what looks like a rather strange personality cult forming and wondering why no-one is asking what seems to be a fairly glaring question.

As someone said earlier, I can't imagine someone with Rob Angus' business background getting into bed with a (potentially) convicted criminal, so lets just hope they have done their homework and haven't been blinded by baubles and access to the club that we all love.

hiya Lee, how's Rochdale looking?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: wisemensay1879 on Friday, August 13, 2021, 17:26:55
Why Lee?! I've literally said this bloke's connection to Power is one of the reasons I'm worried!

It seems blindingly obvious to me that the Trust (and the club) have a question to answer here. Once answered satisfactorily we can all focus on the season ahead. But today was a massively worrying development in my opinion, and Morfuni's first mistake. If nothing else, and all these hypotheses are wrong, the statement was bizarre. Why is a story about a man getting beaten up going out on the Club's headed paper unless there are insinuations that it is relevant?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, August 13, 2021, 17:36:38
OK, Dolph.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Costanza on Friday, August 13, 2021, 17:42:14
I have 10500+ posts and have similar concerns. Concerns that can hopefully be alleviated in time.

As I said previously, I hate not being able to take everything at face value. It's Lee Power's fault.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, August 13, 2021, 17:42:44
I have 10500+ posts and have similar concerns. Concerns that can hopefully be alleviated in time.

As I said previously, I hate not being able to take everything at face value. It's Lee Power's fault.
100% this.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Friday, August 13, 2021, 17:47:08
There are certainly questions to be answered and i will be really shocked if they are not answered soon enough. As fans i think we have every single right to ask these questions and not jump down the throat of anyone who asks them or has concerns. I will reserve judgement on the guy and see what unfolds, the one weird saving grace is that based on the attack i'd imagine (sorry Iffy) he isn't close to Power any more


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: wisemensay1879 on Friday, August 13, 2021, 17:54:44
Thanks guys. It wasn't helpful when everyone dug into their trenches as either 'Happy Clappers' or 'The Power Out Brigade' last time round. Can we not just be Swindon Town fans wanting the best for our club? No one should be shot down for asking questions when there are questions to be asked, particularly when the club and Trust have invited them through their open and transparent mantra.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Friday, August 13, 2021, 18:04:46
Thanks guys. It wasn't helpful when everyone dug into their trenches as either 'Happy Clappers' or 'The Power Out Brigade' last time round. Can we not just be Swindon Town fans wanting the best for our club? No one should be shot down for asking questions when there are questions to be asked, particularly when the club and Trust have invited them through their open and transparent mantra.
Totally agree with this and you are right but I also think we need to be realistic in our timings. I have seen people demanding answers etc straight away. Let's just see what happens


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Crackity Jones on Friday, August 13, 2021, 18:30:27
Thanks guys. It wasn't helpful when everyone dug into their trenches as either 'Happy Clappers' or 'The Power Out Brigade' last time round. Can we not just be Swindon Town fans wanting the best for our club? No one should be shot down for asking questions when there are questions to be asked, particularly when the club and Trust have invited them through their open and transparent mantra.
Agree and I am sure the answers will come.  I think 99% of the fan base wanted Power out so I don't think trenches were needed


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Red Frog on Friday, August 13, 2021, 19:07:37
Didn’t expect to have so much to read about this today. Agree with Rich’s and WMS1879’s concerns. I was hoping we’d moved on from any links to the south London mafia. Now the club actually needs to walk the big talk about transparency. Including why this Austin figure from Beckenham is a dedicated STFC fan, and why they felt it was relevant to include the information about the beating in an announcement about his appointment to the board. It’s almost as if that was included for other eyes than the fans, but it hardly inspires confidence.

The honeymoon is heading for its first big test, and it’s entirely of the new owner’s making. Clumsy comms just before our first home game and while they’re begging for season ticket subs, but we’re right to be wary.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Boy About Town on Friday, August 13, 2021, 19:27:45
Didn’t expect to have so much to read about this today. Agree with Rich’s and WMS1879’s concerns. I was hoping we’d moved on from any links to the south London mafia. Now the club actually needs to walk the big talk about transparency. Including why this Austin figure from Beckenham is a dedicated STFC fan, and why they felt it was relevant to include the information about the beating in an announcement about his appointment to the board. It’s almost as if that was included for other eyes than the fans, but it hardly inspires confidence.

The honeymoon is heading for its first big test, and it’s entirely of the new owner’s making. Clumsy comms just before our first home game and while they’re begging for season ticket subs, but we’re right to be wary.

100% this.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Friday, August 13, 2021, 19:39:52
Deep breath, this could be a long post.

Some worrying revelations this afternoon and I’ve been dipping in and out of the forum trying to make some sense of it all and I’m not sure I have however.

Feel free to correct me as this seems to be a recent popular trend 😉

Clem said that he was sponsoring Harrow Borough through someone he knew after attending some international games whilst over in England/Europe on business. After this he was then introduced to P. Lower and that’s where his association with the Town began, so I deduce that this Austin Chappy ‘may’ be the conduit for either the HB sponsorship or the Town investment.

Could it be that Austin was roughed up by as yet un-named tossers (who were they and why), because he nailed his colours to a different mast than the assailants & their paymasters? Could it be he also helped nail a certain individual or individuals in ways not yet clear or in the public domain because he felt responsible for the outcome of a certain introduction which had gone horribly wrong? It also may be that he does have what could only be described at this point as a possibly chequered past, however, Clem and the trust seem happy with this appointment. I agree that there needs to be some sort of clarification on this matter sooner rather than later.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Super Hans on Friday, August 13, 2021, 19:46:07
Adds a bit of niggling uncertainty Swindon fans could well do without.

Hopeful more information will be divulged by the trust or the club at some point.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, August 13, 2021, 19:47:40
The timing of the statement on the clubs website seems strange unless Clem has done it on purpose to get things out in the open.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: wisemensay1879 on Friday, August 13, 2021, 20:09:51
Mr Austin's aforementioned horse: https://www.racingpost.com/profile/horse/3601919/power-il-topo/form

Power Il Topo translates from Italian as Power the mouse/rat.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Friday, August 13, 2021, 20:11:57
Mr Austin's aforementioned horse: https://www.racingpost.com/profile/horse/3601919/power-il-topo/form

Power Il Topo translates from Italian as Power the mouse/rat.

As in Topo Gigio.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Friday, August 13, 2021, 20:25:24
Not going into the details but know the history to all of this.
As said previously more to come out in the fullness of time and not going to post on a forum.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Friday, August 13, 2021, 20:31:20
Not going into the details but know the history to all of this.
As said previously more to come out in the fullness of time and not going to post on a forum.

Interesting times ahead.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Quagmire on Friday, August 13, 2021, 20:32:08
Not going into the details but know the history to all of this.
As said previously more to come out in the fullness of time and not going to post on a forum.


Honestly, why say anything?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Friday, August 13, 2021, 20:36:21
Interesting times ahead.
Interesting times ahead.

Only challenge we have right now is avoiding points deductions.
You don’t get choices when it comes to football ownership.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: cheltred69 on Friday, August 13, 2021, 20:37:11
Don’t think there’s any doubt that our man is the money launderer. The clipping that someone pasted earlier puts him at exactly the right age, suggesting the bbc report had his age wrong.
Also did a search for Zaver and Zavier Austin on Ancestry.com which returned just one result in UK, a Zaver Ruby Austin born Bromley in Q3 1970.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, August 13, 2021, 20:41:54
Let's lose this negativity we've only been happy for three weeks  :eek:


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: DiV on Friday, August 13, 2021, 20:42:23
Not going into the details but know the history to all of this.
As said previously more to come out in the fullness of time and not going to post on a forum.


I’ve also heard this.
Might hear something next week, possible the week after. At some point in the future definitely.
Just have to see what’s happens.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: AMayesIng on Friday, August 13, 2021, 20:47:45
We havent even played our first home game yet and this shit comes out of the woodwork. Very weird statement to be on the official website. Trying to stay optimistic, but concerning stuff.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Quagmire on Friday, August 13, 2021, 20:49:08
https://courtnewsuk.co.uk/a-fall-guy-who-helped-run-a-pnds-stlg-12-5-milli/

This report about the same case has Austin at 34 when the crime was committed, which makes it looks like the BBC report had his age wrong.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, August 13, 2021, 20:49:15
It's as if the website has been hacked!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Friday, August 13, 2021, 20:50:37
Quote from: TheDukeOfBanbury
Not going into the details but know the history to all of this.
As said previously more to come out in the fullness of time and not going to post on a forum.

more to come out about the new regime.
or more to come out about power.

or both?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: wisemensay1879 on Friday, August 13, 2021, 20:52:14
Absolutely gutted to be raking over this ahead of a game we've all looked forward to for 18 months, but much better to stick our hand in the air and ask the question now before further potential damage is done. Interesting given the lightning response time of the Trust on literally any social media post for the last month or so that this has been left hanging, and also interesting that it is the only statement the club has made that hasn't been shared on their official social media channels, as someone pointed out earlier.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Friday, August 13, 2021, 20:54:37
Absolutely gutted to be raking over this ahead of a game we've all looked forward to for 18 months, but much better to stick our hand in the air and ask the question now before further potential damage is done. Interesting given the lightning response time of the Trust on literally any social media post for the last month or so that this has been left hanging, and also interesting that it is the only statement the club has made that hasn't been shared on their official social media channels, as someone pointed out earlier.

The Trust in my opinion don’t know the full facts.
Let’s just enjoy what we have for now but clearly you know more than most and the connections.
No more from me. Looking forward to a new beginning.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: wisemensay1879 on Friday, August 13, 2021, 21:00:15
I don't know anything! I just googled the bloke when he first appeared in Clem's original statement and didn't like what I found and it has been nagging me ever since. Today's announcement prompted me to share my concerns.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Friday, August 13, 2021, 23:23:57
More concerned about the concerns than the concern itself.

We are Swindon fans. We need to be concerned.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Pookemon on Saturday, August 14, 2021, 00:00:03
Given everything else that is happening - a quality CEO who is Swindon to the core - the 99% positivity from everything about the new regime - I'm not going to let one press release bring me down and fully intend to enjoy the moment.

Scunthorpe was up there with some of the best away days I've had (and there have been many) and I'm more than willing to give Clem the benefit of the doubt, including how we've managed to sign a midfield that looks totally out of place in the 4th division. (On paper!)

I'm naturally sceptical, but if you can't enjoy this, then why fucking bother.  Come on you cunts, stop your bitching we've just signed Jonny Williams FFS.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Robinz on Saturday, August 14, 2021, 04:09:30
My observation of Australian males is interesting especially in business.
They will f#ck each other over till one bleeds to near death and then when its over or on Friday night offer to share a beer or three. But, Monday morning start all over again. This time they call each other "Mates" and openly [email protected] each other business wise that is.
But wait, when another supposed "mate" comes from say Queensland, South Australia or god forbid New Zealand it's all on again.
The only way to beat an Aussie is to keep your foot on his throat and don't take your eyes off his. Which Power obviously didn't. 
But, Australians tend to be proud of their supposed fair play, fair dinkum reputation and stand up for the under dog and I'll help you out "mate" and they generally will. 
I am hoping that Aussie Clem is as good as he has first seemed and Austin have become good "mates" which Morfuni is purposely showing with Austin sitting with him on Saturday and allowing him to become his right hand man.
Suggest this is to show unity between the two of them and "The king is dead Long live the king."
I don't really want to think if I am wrong !!!
If i am correct and I sincerely hope I am STFC could benefit big time.   
Good luck tomorrow COYMRs
       


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: flammableBen on Saturday, August 14, 2021, 04:59:58
I have 10500+ posts and have similar concerns. Concerns that can hopefully be alleviated in time.

As I said previously, I hate not being able to take everything at face value. It's Lee Power's fault.

I've got 40bijillion posts over the years. And whilst I can see the joy of getting swept up in what seems to be a sensible progressive modern approach to running stfc, there are a few clem amber alert flags which stop me going full in past what happens each day.

Even if things don't seem to be as great as


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Saturday, August 14, 2021, 05:06:58
The old adage that there are no friends in business can be used in any language in any country around the world. As Clem found out as if he didn’t know. So it leads onto the question of what Pee Lower proposed to him for his initial investment? Because and lest we forget that Clem saw his investment as a business opportunity however you look at it on any level.

What Clem didn’t see coming and neither did Standing for that matter (and I suspect others too, which remains to be seen) was what looked like an attempt to, how to put this? Desert a sinking ship with the contents of the pursers office while letting everyone else go down with the ship.

What you can be sure of is that eventually most if not all of the shenanigans will come out, some soon others later. So as it stands we have to take Clem at face value and trust in Aberdeen, The Trust & Clem himself that the ship has made safe harbour and the repairs to it structurally, reputation & image wise will be quickly dealt with. Don’t ever forget Clem came on board to make money, so did Barry and Standing and possibly others. Then and only then can the good ship Swindon Town FC be relaunched and sail towards what us as fans hope to be a bright future.

In summary, the poacher has turned gamekeeper. Let’s hope it stays that way. I’m all in and invested with ST when the monthly option kicks off next week possibly two shirts today, fingers crossed.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: flammableBen on Saturday, August 14, 2021, 05:07:25
I have 10500+ posts and have similar concerns. Concerns that can hopefully be alleviated in time.

As I said previously, I hate not being able to take everything at face value. It's Lee Power's fault.

I've got 40bijillion posts over the years. And whilst I can see the joy of getting swept up in what seems to be a sensible progressive modern approach to running stfc, there are a few clem amber alert flags which stop me going full in future enthusiasm mode.

I'm hopeful that even if it isn't the dream we hope for, it's better than what we've had.

I do wish the trust had stayed a bit more separate though. Power had to go, and the absolute travesty of how things were being handled when he knew his time was up shows his absolute disregard for the club. But I worry that with the trust aligning themselves with clem we have no where to go if he turns out to be another Terry Brady or any other disappointment


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Saturday, August 14, 2021, 05:46:18
Given everything else that is happening - a quality CEO who is Swindon to the core - the 99% positivity from everything about the new regime - I'm not going to let one press release bring me down and fully intend to enjoy the moment.

Scunthorpe was up there with some of the best away days I've had (and there have been many) and I'm more than willing to give Clem the benefit of the doubt, including how we've managed to sign a midfield that looks totally out of place in the 4th division. (On paper!)

I'm naturally sceptical, but if you can't enjoy this, then why fucking bother.  Come on you cunts, stop your bitching we've just signed Jonny Williams FFS.

Spot on.
Been enough doom around for a long time and all part of the DNA at Swindon.
We know a further court case is pending and we are not out of the clear of potential wrong-doings.

Just focusing on football now and buzzing for today.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Quagmire on Saturday, August 14, 2021, 10:05:14
Nice touch naming The Town End ‘The Alan McLoughlin Town End’


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Super Hans on Saturday, August 14, 2021, 10:08:29
Nice touch naming The Town End ‘The Alan McLoughlin Town End’

Before my time but everyone speaks so highly of him, Swindon and Pompey fans especially.

Great move.
 


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, August 14, 2021, 10:11:55
Nice touch naming The Town End ‘The Alan McLoughlin Town End’
Thats great to see, I did mention this to Clem a couple of weeks back about naming a stand or suite after him, didn't think he would act so quickly, even if its a temporary thing.

Well done Clem, Alan Mac was a great player and club servant.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Saturday, August 14, 2021, 10:15:51
Thats great to see, I did mention this to Clem a couple of weeks back about naming a stand or suite after him, didn't think he would act so quickly, even if its a temporary thing.

Well done Clem, Alan Mac was a great player and club servant.

Seconded. Lovely touch.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, August 14, 2021, 10:40:29
https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2021/august/town-rename-town-end-to-honour-the-late-great-alan-mcloughlin/


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Hunk on Saturday, August 14, 2021, 10:48:54
https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2021/august/town-rename-town-end-to-honour-the-late-great-alan-mcloughlin/

I’m not only loving the whole idea, it’s of course a very fitting tribute, but also the amount of effort that’s gone into that statement. Great to hear about the 10% proceeds going to Prospect and also hearing from Alan Mac’s family. It’s made me feel all warm and fuzzy


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, August 16, 2021, 08:52:34
Bet he hasn't been out driving a van though!

https://www.wigantoday.net/sport/football/wigan-athletic-chairman-talal-al-hammad-on-his-visit-the-fans-his-plans-and-pies-3345564


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: tans on Monday, August 16, 2021, 16:33:47
Power no longer a director of Seebeck and Swinton Reds.

The bastard has gone


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: singingiiiffy on Tuesday, August 17, 2021, 17:39:38
a tiny bit of me is looking forward to clem going back to aus for a bit. the pr has been maxed, I am grateful for having a club. Let's see if we still want to be seeing him pouring pints in 2 years time. I really do hope so but would like to start seeing the talk continued on the pitch and off the pitch stadium etc


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JanAirplaneMan on Tuesday, August 17, 2021, 17:55:15
Some fans have very very short memories under 4 weeks ago we nearly didnt have a club. LP so many issues for Clem and Rob to deal with which they still are and will continue to be dealing with well into 2022. Yet after only a few weeks and only 2 league games your already wishing Clem be back in Oz .. Really are you for real. ? Things may not be perfect but my god the progress in a few weeks has been outstanding..
I can't believe I have read your statement I really cant.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, August 17, 2021, 17:59:38
Some fans have very very short memories under 4 weeks ago we nearly didnt have a club. LP so many issues for Clem and Rob to deal with which they still are and will continue to be dealing with well into 2022. Yet after only a few weeks and only 2 league games your already wishing Clem be back in Oz .. Really are you for real. ? Things may not be perfect but my god the progress in a few weeks has been outstanding..
I can't believe I have read your statement I really cant.

No offence but you guys need to step back back from Clem and regain some independence, now he’s in he needs to be treated like any other owner. At the moment it just seems like he can do no wrong no matter what!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, August 17, 2021, 18:05:41
No offence but you guys need to step back back from Clem and regain some independence, now he’s in he needs to be treated like any other owner. At the moment it just seems like he can do no wrong no matter what!

a tiny bit of me is looking forward to clem going back to aus for a bit. the pr has been maxed, I am grateful for having a club. Let's see if we still want to be seeing him pouring pints in 2 years time. I really do hope so but would like to start seeing the talk continued on the pitch and off the pitch stadium etc

Jeez, I know how people who have suffered abuse find it hard to build trust again, but seriously - some perspective?  :headhurts:


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JanAirplaneMan on Tuesday, August 17, 2021, 18:09:42
No offence but you guys need to step back back from Clem and regain some independence, now he’s in he needs to be treated like any other owner. At the moment it just seems like he can do no wrong no matter what!
We are holding him to account I can assure you and I think if you read what I said it was that I cannot believe fans are moaning already. I also said things are not perfect and lots to be put right and we continue to hold clem and tob to account on all this  I wont comment any further on this. Enjoy the game tonight



Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: singingiiiffy on Tuesday, August 17, 2021, 18:11:17
Some fans have very very short memories under 4 weeks ago we nearly didnt have a club. LP so many issues for Clem and Rob to deal with which they still are and will continue to be dealing with well into 2022. Yet after only a few weeks and only 2 league games your already wishing Clem be back in Oz .. Really are you for real. ? Things may not be perfect but my god the progress in a few weeks has been outstanding..
I can't believe I have read your statement I really cant.


iv hardly said anything earth shattering. I said a tiny bit. I'm having haunted memories of Jed pouring pints. for me the pr has been maxed and I'm looking forward to see it happening.

iv bought a season ticket for the first time in 20 years. I wouldn't have done that without all the success of the takeover and promises.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Tuesday, August 17, 2021, 19:23:57
We are holding him to account I can assure you and I think if you read what I said it was that I cannot believe fans are moaning already. I also said things are not perfect and lots to be put right and we continue to hold clem and tob to account on all this  I wont comment any further on this. Enjoy the game tonight

I think the bottom line is, there is a rather glaring issue that has come up. This is a time when a number of fans will really need the Trust. You guys have been incredibly quick to answer everything so far (regardless of the day of week); you know all of those cluttering things like "Can we have Bovril back?", "I'm worried about the scarves having overlocked stitching instead of embroidered stitch as it plays havoc with my eczema" and "Will I be able to have a piss in the Stratton Bank this season if not please ask the stewards if they'll be ok handing out SheWee containers?"...which is all nice that the Trust are addressing those many trivial matters.

Although they are probably fucking annoying things in all honesty, yet as soon as someone has suggested "How come you can't meet a potentially convicted money launderer-cum-drug mule (who is potentially going to be appointed VC) before the EFL have done their F&PPT?" It seems like the initial response is to go on the defensive? But why though? It's totally out of character to every bit of progress done so far. Why is this matter so different?

As I said, this is a time when a number of fans are asking for guidance and reassurance so at present (and it doesn't matter if that is one fan or one thousand), the Trust is appearing to fail them. I'm pretty certain a lot of people do have perspective and think that the Trust have done a sterling job so far - myself included. We can be capable of both lauding praise upon what has been done so far but also raise concern in areas that matter and I mean areas that really do matter.

For what it's worth and it is a possibility... a nice press release saying what a lovely man he is after meeting him in Fortnum & Mason's and that he bought everyone Petit Fours and Earl Grey will probably not cut it (although I'm sure the sandwiches will be very nice). I personally don't think that is going to have everyone throwing on a frilly STFC branded bonnet, sucking their thumb and becoming all doe-eyed.

Ffs, I wasn't going to bother commenting on the matter but you guys appear to keep on digging a hole. I'm expecting an announcement for fans to come and help dig said hole next.

HT 0 - 0


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, August 17, 2021, 19:30:49
Well this thread title has now aged...


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: tans on Tuesday, August 17, 2021, 19:36:13
Well this thread title has now aged...

Peak STFC. Be calling for the managers head next :D


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, August 17, 2021, 19:36:53
So it looks like WMS1879 has succeeded in his objective.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Tuesday, August 17, 2021, 19:53:28
Peak STFC. Be calling for the managers head next :D

GARNER OUT  ;)

So it looks like WMS1879 has succeeded in his objective.

Such an easy throwaway comment.

I'm assuming you have zero concerns regarding Mr. Z Austin then? I seem to remember how people got ostracized for having concerns about both Jed Bloated Lionface and Tony Tucker...I've got a terrible feeling...it's happening again.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, August 17, 2021, 20:50:03
Concerns about Austin or not, that is not how this evenings topic went, you were the only one that brought that into the mix.

And let's just say it comes out of the woodwork that Austin has a coloured past, what would you like to happen?  Clem sell up?

All anyone is saying is, at least enjoy having a club for a few months before we revert to typical Swindon fan mode that the end is imminent..  As everyone has said, let's focus on the football, let the court case run it's course, see how the club is organised in 6 months time and then start asking pertinent questions if anything feels a miss.  At that point, if it does, I am sure that the Trust will raise it as a concern.

Clem is the owner, he can make his own decisions, the Trust will challenge that if needed, if it becomes a reality.

Enjoy it while it lasts


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Nick Bamosomi on Tuesday, August 17, 2021, 21:00:06
Concerns about Austin or not, that is not how this evenings topic went, you were the only one that brought that into the mix.

And let's just say it comes out of the woodwork that Austin has a coloured past, what would you like to happen?  Clem sell up?

All anyone is saying is, at least enjoy having a club for a few months before we revert to typical Swindon fan mode that the end is imminent..  As everyone has said, let's focus on the football, let the court case run it's course, see how the club is organised in 6 months time and then start asking pertinent questions if anything feels a miss.  At that point, if it does, I am sure that the Trust will raise it as a concern.

Clem is the owner, he can make his own decisions, the Trust will challenge that if needed, if it becomes a reality.

Enjoy it while it lasts

Well said


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Boeta on Tuesday, August 17, 2021, 21:01:50
It’s not just about Austin. Clem gave £1.1m to Power when he was in charge. I am not suggesting anything untoward, but that is always going to raise question marks because if you’re happy doing business with Power at those stakes then either you are a bit of an easy mark or there’s more to it than meets the eye.

Fans’ Trusts should always be sceptics, not fanboys, of owners. They have done a great job helping the Club move on from Power. It would be lovely to think we will all ride off in the sunset together. However, we all know EFL, and particularly STFC, owners well enough that we need them to turn a sceptical eye on our new incumbents.

Edit: and I say that with admiration of what Clem and Rob Angus have managed to do over the past few weeks by implementing a proper management structure, some good signings  and generating interest in the team again.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: singingiiiffy on Tuesday, August 17, 2021, 21:02:21
Concerns about Austin or not, that is not how this evenings topic went, you were the only one that brought that into the mix.

And let's just say it comes out of the woodwork that Austin has a coloured past, what would you like to happen?  Clem sell up?

All anyone is saying is, at least enjoy having a club for a few months before we revert to typical Swindon fan mode that the end is imminent..  As everyone has said, let's focus on the football, let the court case run it's course, see how the club is organised in 6 months time and then start asking pertinent questions if anything feels a miss.  At that point, if it does, I am sure that the Trust will raise it as a concern.

Clem is the owner, he can make his own decisions, the Trust will challenge that if needed, if it becomes a reality.

Enjoy it while it lasts

This is what i was insinuating but it made Jan speechless. When Clem returns we can start to focus on the real day to day Swindon and judge the owners by their actions going forward.  


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Tuesday, August 17, 2021, 21:16:52
Concerns about Austin or not, that is not how this evenings topic went, you were the only one that brought that into the mix.

And let's just say it comes out of the woodwork that Austin has a coloured past, what would you like to happen?  Clem sell up?

All anyone is saying is, at least enjoy having a club for a few months before we revert to typical Swindon fan mode that the end is imminent..  As everyone has said, let's focus on the football, let the court case run it's course, see how the club is organised in 6 months time and then start asking pertinent questions if anything feels a miss.  At that point, if it does, I am sure that the Trust will raise it as a concern.

Clem is the owner, he can make his own decisions, the Trust will challenge that if needed, if it becomes a reality.

Enjoy it while it lasts

Berni, I totally appreciate and respect your comments as always.

Austin, unless I'm mistaken is the main reason for people's concerns and why we have been talking about the proposed appointment no? Is also LL then not just as culpable as WMS1879 by accusing the poster of "succeeding in his objective". Whilst I agree there might be a different way of going about things, is WMS opinion not valued as much as any other fan? We've already established that several posters (old and new) have also raised concerns. Some have been more vocal about it than others.

Well now you are just assuming further actions that not one person has stated on here. No one has said that (regarding Clem selling up). All people have queried is why the Trust have been so quick to answer everything to date but on this they've become very coy and then defensive. Is that not odd? Maybe I'm wrong to think that.

I'm certain that people are more than intelligent enough though to do both (or several) things...like enjoying having a club to support, raise their concerns with the off-field (at whatever point they wish) and be pleased with the on-field. Or are people no longer capable of this?

Yes I agree, maybe some time should be allowed to pass. It would seem reasonable. However, I am not everyone and each one of us will have a different "meter" on what that is. Of course naturally, some will have a consensus of time frame.

This is true, and he can  of course but I think there is doubt creeping in with the latter statement. Will they certainly challenge? Or are they too far in bed with the new owner now? It feels a little like they've whacked every available egg into Clem's basket.

Oh I'll certainly enjoy on the pitch if it's going well but as I stated at the top, why should that stop me (or whoever else) querying off the pitch? :)

It'll all come out in the wash-bag :)

NB:
Just noticed BBC Wilts played UB40 - Higher Ground and 4 Non Blondes - Whats Up?  :hmmm:


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, August 17, 2021, 21:37:11
AFAIC WMS1879 came on to stir the shit pot and create divisions within the fan base. Oh sure he has raised questions, however, do any of you think those questions, allegations, insinuations, nods, winks and innuendo wouldn’t have surfaced anyway? Of course not, you cannot keep things of that nature under wraps for to long, why even in an abstract way the club raised eyebrows and set tongues wagging with the thuggery comments in the Friday statement. After all that the club has been through in my lifetime I’m not getting to worked up over the appointment of individuals, having a club to support is more important. I cannot influence directorships, investments and the running of the club. The only thing I can do is support and pay my money. Until these people are outed as Slaaags, nonces and fackin wrong’uns then I’ll continue to support and pay, when they are I’ll withdraw the oxygen of support and cash to see them off. Over to you Aberdeen, what say you?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: RedRag on Tuesday, August 17, 2021, 21:41:50
We all know that you judge an owner by how he leaves the club, not after a decent interval even, let alone within a few weeks.

Similarly with Zaver.  There is stuff about his background being disseminated that I personally feel uncomfortable about.  He's being lined up as a vice chairman.  There is however nothing I know that tells me whether he will be good or bad in that role inc. what he may have done outside of football 20 years ago.

This is a Forum and we shall of course gossip and speculate to our heart's content.  And as and when we choose.

However for now Clem's purchase has edged the club away from disaster, perhaps even extinction.  He faces a whole load of shit on STFCs behalf from the EFL. 

Can we not let him appoint a vice chairman of his choice and secure EFL approval before expecting a full public submission seeking our own approval?

Transparency yes but allow the guy to pick his own team, get official approvals and take a breath first.

On the presumed basis that our club's owner has this time used his own money to buy the shares.








Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Frigby Daser on Tuesday, August 17, 2021, 22:10:46
Can we not let him appoint a vice chairman of his choice and secure EFL approval before expecting a full public submission seeking our own approval?

100% - as long as that person has not spent time in prison. The Trust get all the credit for saving the club. I’d imagine they’re as unnerved about Austin as we are. Having someone like Austin as vice chair was not part of the Morfuni manifesto, nor was the absence of consultation.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Robinz on Wednesday, August 18, 2021, 00:43:03
Clem Morfuni game could easily be

Keep close to your friends. However keep very much closer to your enemies!!!.

Current situation for STFC with or without the introduction of Austin seems far better than a month or so ago.

Then it seemed terminal. Now a brighter future looks possible.

The key to moving forward surely is Rob Angus. A true Swindon supporter and now CEO he must have privilaged information from above. Should Rob throw his toys out of the cot everyone will know for sure there is a major coming.

Until then really suggest everyone straps themselves in and enjoy the ride. 

COYMRs



Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Wednesday, August 18, 2021, 06:28:09
Clem Morfuni game could easily be

Keep close to your friends. However keep very much closer to your enemies!!!.

Current situation for STFC with or without the introduction of Austin seems far better than a month or so ago.

Then it seemed terminal. Now a brighter future looks possible.

The key to moving forward surely is Rob Angus. A true Swindon supporter and now CEO he must have privilaged information from above. Should Rob throw his toys out of the cot everyone will know for sure there is a major coming.

Until then really suggest everyone straps themselves in and enjoy the ride.  

COYMRs



The key to moving forward surely is Rob Angus. A true Swindon supporter and now CEO he must have privilaged information from above. Should Rob throw his toys out of the cot everyone will know for sure there is a major coming.

Exactly this, which is why I have said ‘over to you Aberdeen’ that is the litmus test, unless he has been ‘bought’ in which I’d be very, very, very surprised.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: AMayesIng on Wednesday, August 18, 2021, 08:08:57
100% with LL. I found the club statement about ZA a bit 'odd' to say the least; but lets give the new team some time to prove themselves. I trust Rob Angus 100%.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Robinz on Wednesday, August 18, 2021, 08:49:17
It's one hell of a lot of pressure to be put on Rob Angus as CEO with his proven history and passion of supporting STFC

Just hope the Board / Shareholders (whoever they maybe) are genuine and sincere.

Without pissing on anyone's parade here Have just watch this below and wish I hadn't

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldgTCXpDEgk      :crash:

   


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, August 18, 2021, 08:53:12
I watched that documentary last night. It's scary the lengths these people go to to get involved in football clubs. I know people ask 'why would someone want to get involved in a football club', well sadly it's a way to get dirty money cleaned.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Robinz on Wednesday, August 18, 2021, 09:39:27
The Football league will be aware of these dodgy deals now.
And if this is in fact happening at Swindon and "we" must accept it is a big possibility.
What next, the EFL can't simply make an example of Swindon like in the past.
There seems so many examples of corruption that the EFL must look internally for answers moving forward.   
Why the hell did Clem Morfuni make that strange statement Re Austin last week only he will know.
Now is not the time to make assumptions. It's time to enjoy the football and enjoy.
COYMRs   
     


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: theakston2k on Wednesday, August 18, 2021, 09:48:42
I watched that documentary last night. It's scary the lengths these people go to to get involved in football clubs. I know people ask 'why would someone want to get involved in a football club', well sadly it's a way to get dirty money cleaned.
And this unfortunately this is why Austin needs to be a big talking point whether people like it or not as he has actually got a conviction for money laundering. Whether he is ‘reformed’ or not it doesn’t look good for the club and even more questions will be asked about the competence of the EFL if he is passed as a director. I just don’t see how he can be deemed fit and proper so then what happens will be the next question as he obviously holds a lot of influence over Clem.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, August 18, 2021, 09:56:39
And this unfortunately this is why Austin needs to be a big talking point whether people like it or not as he has actually got a conviction for money laundering. Whether he is ‘reformed’ or not it doesn’t look good for the club and even more questions will be asked about the competence of the EFL if he is passed as a director. I just don’t see how he can be deemed fit and proper so then what happens will be the next question as he obviously holds a lot of influence over Clem.

I agree with this. As DOB seemed to imply on the Austin thread there is something a bit more deep routed. Perhaps for Power to agree to any takeover (fully aware the court basically told him to sell up) Austin had to be part of the ongoing board in some shape or form? I genuinely don't know but will of course be watching to see how this plays out.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Kent_Red on Wednesday, August 18, 2021, 11:12:53
Power no longer a director of Seebeck and Swinton Reds.

The bastard has gone
Not quite - he's still a director of Swindon Town Football Company Ltd which is ultimately the operating company of the club


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Red Frog on Wednesday, August 18, 2021, 11:47:41
Not quite - he's still a director of Swindon Town Football Company Ltd which is ultimately the operating company of the club

Bromley way?  :sherlock:


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Kent_Red on Wednesday, August 18, 2021, 11:54:08
Bromley way?  :sherlock:
Yep!  I'm not Xavier Austin though just to clarify!  :D


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, August 18, 2021, 12:04:53
Yep!  I'm not Xavier Austin though just to clarify!  :D

Which is exactly what Xavier Austin would say.....


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Ardiles on Wednesday, August 18, 2021, 12:07:18
Exactly.  Blatant self-incrimination!

Burn the witch!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, August 18, 2021, 12:21:54
Quote from: Kent_Red
Quote
Bromley way?  :sherlock:
Yep!  I'm not Xavier Austin though just to clarify!  :D

but are you Xaver Austin🤔


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Red Frog on Wednesday, August 18, 2021, 12:22:38
Yep!  I'm not Xavier Austin though just to clarify!  :D

But perhaps you know a bit about the local scene, and its "characters"...


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Wednesday, August 18, 2021, 12:29:20
Yep!  I'm not Xavier Austin though just to clarify!  :D

Nor are you Spartacus I expect.

You’re not WMS1879 in disguise are you per chance? 😁


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Kent_Red on Wednesday, August 18, 2021, 12:55:21
But perhaps you know a bit about the local scene, and its "characters"...
Afraid not.  First I'd ever heard of him was last week in the press release.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Robinz on Thursday, August 19, 2021, 02:28:07
Where's Wobert, Weginald, Wupert or where's [email protected] Brian ???    :)
Just remember, Always look on the bright side of life !!!!
 :bye:


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: tans on Friday, August 20, 2021, 18:17:31
Interesting read about Rochdale

https://www.daletrust.co.uk/2021/08/9900/


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Hunk on Friday, August 20, 2021, 18:28:25
Interesting read about Rochdale

https://www.daletrust.co.uk/2021/08/9900/

Wow. They seem to be in at least as precarious situation as we were, albeit without a potential buyer who was not universally hated as the consortium trying to take over Rochdale appear to be waiting in the wings.

Can’t see how Andy Curran can possibly expect to take over Rochdale with this amount of opposition. Just give it up


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: swindonmaniac on Friday, August 20, 2021, 20:04:09
Interesting read about Rochdale

https://www.daletrust.co.uk/2021/08/9900/
Sounds very suspect.   Maybe purchase has been made with cash that was previously being spent elsewhere !!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Sippo on Friday, August 20, 2021, 20:39:16
I am going to be completely honest, but the stuff with clem being here be there being fucking everywhere is really starting to get a bit tedious.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Grim Reaper on Friday, August 20, 2021, 20:49:29
I am going to be completely honest, but the stuff with clem being here be there being fucking everywhere is really starting to get a bit tedious.

Would you prefer the previous regime who was not seen for months on end?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JBZ on Friday, August 20, 2021, 20:51:18
Is there a position somewhere in between?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, August 20, 2021, 21:21:21
I am going to be completely honest, but the stuff with clem being here be there being fucking everywhere is really starting to get a bit tedious.
The one in the cherry picker wearing shorts and no helmet was a nonsense I’ll agree there. If he actually went up to roof level wearing that the contractor will probably be getting a visit from the health and safety executive.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: tans on Saturday, August 21, 2021, 10:36:34
Looks like Andy Curran is pulling out of Rochdale


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Samdy Gray on Saturday, August 21, 2021, 10:37:09
Maybe he should've pulled out of his wife too.

WAHEY.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Saturday, August 21, 2021, 10:40:30
Looks like Andy Curran is pulling out of Rochdale

Making way for Lee Power *cough* ABLE *cough,cough* Company *wheeze* LLC *cough* to look like some form of saviour?  :hmmm:


Title: Re: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Benzel on Sunday, August 22, 2021, 17:04:09
I am going to be completely honest, but the stuff with clem being here be there being fucking everywhere is really starting to get a bit tedious.
Why?

Sent from my CLT-L09


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Sunday, August 22, 2021, 17:15:37
Sippo being a miserable bastard…normality really is returning  :D


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Sunday, August 22, 2021, 17:17:18
if I'm honest the 100 tweets an hour did get on my nerves.

Then I turned off notifications and all is well :)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Pericardinho on Sunday, August 22, 2021, 22:47:59
I had to turn notifications off too.

ASD is doing a good job on the socials but there's definitely an argument that it could be toned down a tad.

If that's all we've got to moan about at the moment then happy days!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Old_Town_Red on Monday, August 23, 2021, 07:35:03
I am going to be completely honest, but the stuff with clem being here be there being fucking everywhere is really starting to get a bit tedious.

Don't worry, he'll be back in Oz soon enough and then you won't hear from him for a while


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Monday, August 23, 2021, 07:44:08
Don't worry, he'll be back in Oz soon enough and then you won't hear from him for a while
I think that's the thing.

They are trying to maximise the feel good factor and market the club. Taking every opportunity to bring funds into the club is totally understandable.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Monday, August 23, 2021, 07:53:16
I am going to be completely honest, but the stuff with clem being here be there being fucking everywhere is really starting to get a bit tedious.

A - don't read it then
B - the club really needed something like this to happen, can't believe something are moaning about it so soon. Actually,  I can.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Monday, August 23, 2021, 08:58:36
Sippo being a miserable bastard…normality really is returning  :D
:D


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Old_Town_Red on Monday, August 23, 2021, 09:04:36
A - don't read it then
B - the club really needed something like this to happen, can't believe something are moaning about it so soon. Actually,  I can.

 :clap:


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Tuesday, August 24, 2021, 15:57:22
I know it's been mentioned on here recently so apologies for my inability to trawl through all the threads. So, who knows where I can get a replica of the late 80's LLG Spall kit? My favourite shirt and want one in a size that will fit me now and not my action man!!
Cheers


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: @mwooly63 on Tuesday, August 24, 2021, 17:44:22
I know it's been mentioned on here recently so apologies for my inability to trawl through all the threads. So, who knows where I can get a replica of the late 80's LLG Spall kit? My favourite shirt and want one in a size that will fit me now and not my action man!!
Cheers

@Limitedretro on twitter.
There is/was a white one on ebay. Not sure if gone


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Tuesday, August 24, 2021, 17:52:23
@Limitedretro on twitter.
There is/was a white one on ebay. Not sure if gone

Thanks, what about if not on twitter?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Tuesday, August 24, 2021, 17:55:38
@Limitedretro on twitter.
There is/was a white one on ebay. Not sure if gone

Looked on eBay not listed as a Swindon shirt, God knows what else to look under. Somebody mentioned a site that did replica shirts and they had them apparently.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Tuesday, August 24, 2021, 18:02:38
Matchworn Shirts on here might be able to help you :)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, August 24, 2021, 18:03:13
there's this one. not sure the colour is 100% mind

https://theterracestore.com/products/swindon-town-1989-home-retro-shirt


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Tuesday, August 24, 2021, 18:10:11
I know it's been mentioned on here recently so apologies for my inability to trawl through all the threads. So, who knows where I can get a replica of the late 80's LLG Spall kit? My favourite shirt and want one in a size that will fit me now and not my action man!!
Cheers

Try this. Not got the Spall branding though.

https://theterracestore.com/collections/swindon-town/products/swindon-town-1989-home-retro-shirt


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: @mwooly63 on Tuesday, August 24, 2021, 18:41:17
Try this. Not got the Spall branding though.

https://theterracestore.com/collections/swindon-town/products/swindon-town-1989-home-retro-shirt

That reminds me  have an iron on Spall logo to put on  :doh:


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, August 24, 2021, 19:00:39
Try this. Not got the Spall branding though.

https://theterracestore.com/collections/swindon-town/products/swindon-town-1989-home-retro-shirt
Just get a Spall retro one instead

https://twitter.com/limitedretro/status/1427662523294158851?s=21


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Tuesday, August 24, 2021, 19:26:20
Just get a Spall retro one instead

https://twitter.com/limitedretro/status/1427662523294158851?s=21

Yes that's the one, I don't have a twitter account but you can see without posting. Do I need an account to contact them?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: tans on Thursday, August 26, 2021, 11:23:09
Arkells stand renamed the John Trollope Arkells Stand


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Posh Red on Thursday, August 26, 2021, 12:08:19
Arkells stand renamed the John Trollope Arkells Stand

That’s good news.

Just need the toilet block in the bank to be named after Sheridan now :)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Honkytonk on Thursday, August 26, 2021, 12:15:55
That’s good news.

Just need the toilet block in the bank to be named after Sheridan now :)

'John Sheridan Memorial Urinal' as a brass plaque proudly affixed to the channel all the piss flows down.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, August 26, 2021, 13:30:27
Have we still got the Power v Standing court case to look forward to next month? Or has that been shelved in light of the club takeover?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, August 26, 2021, 13:43:19
Have we still got the Power v Standing court case to look forward to next month? Or has that been shelved in light of the club takeover?

Unless Standing is somewhere in the background with Clem cannot see any reason why it would be shelved as the crux of the matter is Power potentially owes Standing a shitload of cash.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, August 26, 2021, 13:47:52
Thought it may have been ironed out as part of the takeover. As it stands, he is only entitled to 50% of the £212,500 Power got for the club. I know he reckons he’s owed about £3m but no idea how he’s going to get that out of Power.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, August 26, 2021, 13:49:24
The court case next month is huge for us. That could be the reason we do or don’t get a points deduction.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Miles Mayhem on Thursday, August 26, 2021, 14:09:53
The court case next month is huge for us. That could be the reason we do or don’t get a points deduction.

I’m not really in the loop with this. Can you explain why


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, August 26, 2021, 14:32:05
I’m not really in the loop with this. Can you explain why

Because of Standing's involvement in the club. He was an agent at the time he got involved, which breaks the rules.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, August 26, 2021, 15:17:08
Thought it may have been ironed out as part of the takeover. As it stands, he is only entitled to 50% of the £212,500 Power got for the club. I know he reckons he’s owed about £3m but no idea how he’s going to get that out of Power.

Its way beyond my area of expertise but I suspect a starting point will be that Power was supposed to be holding the shares in 'trust' for Standing/Barry and has somehow managed to sell them for a vastly reduced price....


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, August 26, 2021, 15:22:56
Will there be a paper trail, though? Judging on Power’s history it’s all likely to be a nod and a wink stuff - he said, she said. Standing did, indeed, get paid a certain amount of his slice of whatever their arrangement was. I wonder how that money was accounted for.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Berniman on Friday, August 27, 2021, 12:46:32
The club has just made my piss boil for the first time since the takeover, however trivial this is, it has royally fucked me off - and I have been very relaxed about everything that has been going on due to the situation and the amount of work that they have had to do and problems that they have had to fix, but this is the first time that I have felt that my willingness for understanding of the situtation has come back to bite me on the arse.

I pre-ordered 2 shirts the day after they were released for me and my boy.  The following week I was seeing everyone getting their pre-orders delivered but no sign of mine - I left it a week due to the understandble challenges, still no shirts - in the meantime everyone was going to the shop to buy theirs, which of course I could have done.

Sent an email to the shop, no reply.  Then I received an email from DHL to say that my delivery was on it's way.  When this delivery didn't turn up, i left it a few days and then contacted DHL - they told me that even though the dispatch had been raised in the system by the club, they hadn't actually handed over the parcel yet.  I contacted the club shop again - no response.  I tried contacting the club on Twitter - no response.  I sent an email to Danny Lee and he replied saying that he would forward on to the Retail team to get it resolved.

About a week later my shirts turn up (this week just gone) after no contact from the club.  There were 2 problems with the shirts..  Both of them had Red dye running into the white panels under the arms, and both of them were ridiculously small for the sizing that had been ordered (this second one is not a club problem, but a puma problem).

I have just driven down to the club shop to get them exchanged for bigger sized, with full knowledge that I will probably have to wait for new stock to arrive as I was fully aware that the current stock of home shirts had sold out.  I was told that no more stock would be coming in and my only option was a refund.

It is now clear to me that my original pre-order was missed, and eventually they got around to my numerous enquiries only to realise that they had run out of stock of the sizes that I wanted so sent me stock that had obvious faults with the red dye on the white panels - in the meantime I have been wasting my time to get the issue resolved.

So now I am in the situation where I can't get hold of the best shirt that we have released for a long time - and the reson for this being that I was giving the club the benefit of the doubt due to the crap that they were having to deal with.  Again, as trivial as it is - it has has seriously fucked me off.

I would have preferred for the club to just contact me, front up, say they fucked up and missed my order and refunded the money - rather than have me wasting my time and energy to get it resolved and then end with the same result.  I felt dirty taking a refund from the club that I want to financially support.

That is my cathartic rant over with - but in normal times I would be raging directly at the club and not to a bunch of blokes on a football forum that really couldn't give a fuck about my 1st world problems.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Boy About Town on Friday, August 27, 2021, 12:49:36
The club has just made my piss boil for the first time since the takeover, however trivial this is, it has royally fucked me off - and I have been very relaxed about everything that has been going on due to the situation and the amount of work that they have had to do and problems that they have had to fix, but this is the first time that I have felt that my willingness for understanding of the situtation has come back to bite me on the arse.

I pre-ordered 2 shirts the day after they were released for me and my boy.  The following week I was seeing everyone getting their pre-orders delivered but no sign of mine - I left it a week due to the understandble challenges, still no shirts - in the meantime everyone was going to the shop to buy theirs, which of course I could have done.

Sent an email to the shop, no reply.  Then I received an email from DHL to say that my delivery was on it's way.  When this delivery didn't turn up, i left it a few days and then contacted DHL - they told me that even though the dispatch had been raised in the system by the club, they hadn't actually handed over the parcel yet.  I contacted the club shop again - no response.  I tried contacting the club on Twitter - no response.  I sent an email to Danny Lee and he replied saying that he would forward on to the Retail team to get it resolved.

About a week later my shirts turn up (this week just gone) after no contact from the club.  There were 2 problems with the shirts..  Both of them had Red dye running into the white panels under the arms, and both of them were ridiculously small for the sizing that had been ordered (this second one is not a club problem, but a puma problem).

I have just driven down to the club shop to get them exchanged for bigger sized, with full knowledge that I will probably have to wait for new stock to arrive as I was fully aware that the current stock of home shirts had sold out.  I was told that no more stock would be coming in and my only option was a refund.

It is now clear to me that my original pre-order was missed, and eventually they got around to my numerous enquiries only to realise that they had run out of stock of the sizes that I wanted so sent me stock that had obvious faults with the red dye on the white panels - in the meantime I have been wasting my time to get the issue resolved.

So now I am in the situation where I can't get hold of the best shirt that we have released for a long time - and the reson for this being that I was giving the club the benefit of the doubt due to the crap that they were having to deal with.  Again, as trivial as it is - it has has seriously fucked me off.

I would have preferred for the club to just contact me, front up, say they fucked up and missed my order and refunded the money - rather than have me wasting my time and energy to get it resolved and then end with the same result.  I felt dirty taking a refund from the club that I want to financially support.

That is my cathartic rant over with - but in normal times I would be raging directly at the club and not to a bunch of blokes on a football forum that really couldn't give a fuck about my 1st world problems.


Meanwhile in Afghanistan....  :hmmm:


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JBZ on Friday, August 27, 2021, 12:52:02
I'm glad I went one size bigger with my shirt.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Berniman on Friday, August 27, 2021, 13:04:50

Meanwhile in Afghanistan....  :hmmm:

Like I said, 1st world problems, but while we still have absolute dickheads in this world that think that Trump is the answer to the Afghanistan issue, and some that spout absolute shit on here, I will carry on spouting shit about my problems. At least I have relevant knowledge about that to back it up.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: ibelieveinmrreeves on Friday, August 27, 2021, 13:08:55
 :clap:


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Boy About Town on Friday, August 27, 2021, 13:18:46
Like I said, 1st world problems, but while we still have absolute dickheads in this world that think that Trump is the answer to the Afghanistan issue, and some that spout absolute shit on here, I will carry on spouting shit about my problems. At least I have relevant knowledge about that to back it up.

You've really hurt my feelings  :(


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Friday, August 27, 2021, 13:22:24
TEF's very own Karl Pilkington.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, August 27, 2021, 13:29:34
Like I said, 1st world problems, but while we still have absolute dickheads in this world that think that Trump is the answer to the Afghanistan issue, and some that spout absolute shit on here, I will carry on spouting shit about my problems. At least I have relevant knowledge about that to back it up.

Noice.

On the shirt issue are they really not ordering any more (your comment is not the first time I have seen this stated), seems mentally short sighted when you consider the buzz round the place and the fact that for once its a half decent shirt! Oh and the fact the club need every £ they can get their mitts on.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Friday, August 27, 2021, 13:35:58
I’m sure I’ve read it’s Puma’s advance ordering requirements which are preventing further stock arriving rather than the club not wanting to do so.



Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Friday, August 27, 2021, 13:44:32
Like I said, 1st world problems, but while we still have absolute dickheads in this world that think that Trump is the answer to the Afghanistan issue, and some that spout absolute shit on here, I will carry on spouting shit about my problems. At least I have relevant knowledge about that to back it up.

:D


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Berniman on Friday, August 27, 2021, 14:02:23
You've really hurt my feelings  :(

Meanwhile in Afghanistan....   :hmmm:


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Berniman on Friday, August 27, 2021, 14:07:00
Noice.

On the shirt issue are they really not ordering any more (your comment is not the first time I have seen this stated), seems mentally short sighted when you consider the buzz round the place and the fact that for once its a half decent shirt! Oh and the fact the club need every £ they can get their mitts on.

That's what he told me in the shop, no further home shirts will be coming in.  There might be a third kit apparently, but that really doesn't help with the issue at hand here that I had here, if I wanted a different shirt to the home shirt I could buy a yellow one (but I can't see me wearing a shirt that is yellow).

As stated, i am more fucked off by the pissing around I had to go through just to get anywhere..


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, August 27, 2021, 14:14:05
Quite right that your hacked off I would be to and think that warrants its own thread " things that have pissed me off"


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, August 27, 2021, 14:30:56
Quite right that your hacked off I would be to and think that warrants its own thread " things that have pissed me off"

There already is such a thread. It's hardly "pissed him off", it's only a football shirt and he's a grown man.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, August 27, 2021, 14:38:15
There already is such a thread. It's hardly "pissed him off", it's only a football shirt and he's a grown man.

That's told me then


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, August 27, 2021, 14:50:27
That's what he told me in the shop, no further home shirts will be coming in.  There might be a third kit apparently, but that really doesn't help with the issue at hand here that I had here, if I wanted a different shirt to the home shirt I could buy a yellow one (but I can't see me wearing a shirt that is yellow).

As stated, i am more fucked off by the pissing around I had to go through just to get anywhere..

Grasp the opportunity, get yourself down the CG with a photographer from the Advertiser and get a picture of you looking proper fumin' whilst your lad does a sad face to go in the local rag!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, August 27, 2021, 14:55:21
You should tweet the club Berni with your tail of woe. They'll probably send Clem round with replacement shirts, and you'll probably get fellatio from him as well such is the desire to keep fans happy :)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, August 27, 2021, 14:56:28
You should tweet the club Berni with your tail of woe. They'll probably send Clem round with replacement shirts, and you'll probably get fellatio from him as well such is the desire to keep fans happy :)
Well blow me down.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Friday, August 27, 2021, 14:58:47
That's told me then
:D

I hope BO has a couple of beers tonight and chills out.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, August 27, 2021, 15:02:30
:D

I hope BO has a couple of beers tonight and chills out.


 :pint: :pint:


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, August 27, 2021, 15:11:36

 :pint: :pint:

Jimmy knows I was only being serious, didn't you fella?

 ;D

I'm on a bit of a detox actually after coming back with Irish belly drinking some top class Guinness for 2 weeks. That said there is a new Greek food van which has parked up just down the road from us so I'll be sampling a bit of Gyros tonight!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, August 27, 2021, 15:18:48
Of course I do Bob😀


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Friday, September 3, 2021, 17:14:14
❗On The Sofa with Clem, Rob and Zav❗

Vic Morgan will be joined by Chairmain Clem Morfuni, CEO Rob Angus and potential new Vice Charman Zavier Austin to discuss all the current news at SN1!

LIVE 7pm, Monday 6th Sept @ www.facebook.com/STFCSupClub

#STFC 🔴⚪


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Frigby Daser on Friday, September 3, 2021, 18:04:07
Interesting - let’s hope he can put any concerns to bed (ie, that it wasn’t him).


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, September 3, 2021, 18:45:10
Fair play. Nothing like meeting potentially awkward questions head on.

As long as they’re asked, of course.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Friday, September 3, 2021, 20:00:18
Vic usually asks the uncomfortable questions.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Boeta on Friday, September 3, 2021, 21:14:23
Why's he a potential vice chair?

If there was nothing to hide, he'd have been made vice chair already wouldn't he?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, September 3, 2021, 21:24:45
Why's he a potential vice chair?

If there was nothing to hide, he'd have been made vice chair already wouldn't he?

I think the 'potential' part is down to the fit and proper person test.

And them rolling him out now suggests to me that they've been told he's likely to pass it. (Or has done already)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Ardiles on Saturday, September 4, 2021, 13:22:20
I'm a little suspicious.  They could have said simply 'it's not him' at any point over the last few weeks.  That they haven't suggests to me that there may well be something in it.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Saturday, September 4, 2021, 13:26:32
I'm a little suspicious.  They could have said simply 'it's not him' at any point over the last few weeks.  That they haven't suggests to me that there may well be something in it.
Surely we know it is him? They will answer the questions Monday but I suppose ultimately it will all come down to whether fans want to accept that he isn't the same person he was 15 years ago and they are willing to give him a chance


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, September 4, 2021, 14:49:23
How should one say Zavier?

Zavvy - err?
Zavvy - eh?
Havvy - err?
Havvy - eh?
Something else?

And I know his name isn't Something Else Austin, so let's nip that one in the bud you bunch of cunts ;)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Saturday, September 4, 2021, 16:39:19
How should one say Zavier?

Zavvy - err?
Zavvy - eh?
Havvy - err?
Havvy - eh?
Something else?

And I know his name isn't Something Else Austin, so let's nip that one in the bud you bunch of cunts ;)

Charlie?

It's all to do with the Havvy-errs and Havvy-nots, I guess :)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Saturday, September 4, 2021, 17:52:01
How should one say Zavier?

Zavvy - err?
Zavvy - eh?
Havvy - err?
Havvy - eh?
Something else?

And I know his name isn't Something Else Austin, so let's nip that one in the bud you bunch of cunts ;)

Dunno..

I thought zav-e-ay


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Saturday, September 4, 2021, 22:16:16
Before the game there was some bloke (looked fairly short) in a suite who was fist bumping all the players as they came off after warming up and they all seemed to know him.

Never seen him before, would that be Zavier? Can't think who else it would have been...


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Sunday, September 5, 2021, 09:00:39
Looking at Accrington v Shrewsbury I don't think there's any need for a third strip


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Sunday, September 5, 2021, 09:27:41
Before the game there was some bloke (looked fairly short) in a suite who was fist bumping all the players as they came off after warming up and they all seemed to know him.

Never seen him before, would that be Zavier? Can't think who else it would have been...

Don't know if you saw Clem venture into the away end at half time.
Rob Angus hung back but there was a tall smartly dressed chap with Clem, looked a bit like Richard E Grant.
Did wonder if that might have been Zavier.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, September 5, 2021, 09:30:05
Don't know if you saw Clem venture into the away end at half time.
Rob Angus hung back but there was a tall smartly dressed chap with Clem, looked a bit like Richard E Grant.
Did wonder if that might have been Zavier.
Judging by your description it was him.

On the right in this picture.
(https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/resources/images/4161863.jpg)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: swindonmaniac on Sunday, September 5, 2021, 11:19:13
Looks more like a minder !!.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Sunday, September 5, 2021, 11:22:50
Looks more like a minder !!.

Is he the one who allegedly got attacked a few weeks ago


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, September 5, 2021, 11:31:40
Is he the one who allegedly got attacked a few weeks ago
Indeed he is, not sure there was any "allegedly" about it though, it certainly happened.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Sunday, September 5, 2021, 11:33:10
Just covering myself as I don't the known the whole story!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Monday, September 6, 2021, 02:34:27
Looks more like a minder !!.

I think the caption in the image is "I could be so good for you."


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Monday, September 6, 2021, 08:44:24
deffo Arthur Daley on the left


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Monday, September 6, 2021, 09:27:01
https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2021/september/2021-22-stfc-sponsorship-opportunities/

Wouldn't be happy to see the County Ground renamed.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Monday, September 6, 2021, 09:34:41
https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2021/september/2021-22-stfc-sponsorship-opportunities/

Wouldn't be happy to see the County Ground renamed.

Inevitable.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, September 6, 2021, 09:35:00
https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2021/september/2021-22-stfc-sponsorship-opportunities/

Wouldn't be happy to see the County Ground renamed.

Isn't it already 'The Energy Check County Ground' or has that changed/expired?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Monday, September 6, 2021, 09:36:00
Isn't it already 'The Energy Check County Ground' or has that changed/expired?

I'd be worried about dropping the County Ground part entirely.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Swindon Please Win on Monday, September 6, 2021, 09:36:23
Couldn't care less if we get a new sponsor for the ground, good amount of money for the club and everyone will still call it the County Ground anyway.


Title: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Monday, September 6, 2021, 09:48:25
Quote
https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2021/september/2021-22-stfc-sponsorship-opportunities/ (https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2021/september/2021-22-stfc-sponsorship-opportunities/)

Wouldn't be happy to see the County Ground renamed.
Depends how they do it

if (as above) it's like Bigcorp County Ground,  other than in club comms it'll just be the County Ground to everyone.

if they suddenly change it to be "The Bigcorp Ground' things may be different.

However with the recent stand renaming to incorporate legends I don't get the feeling anyone is going to piss over our heritage


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, September 6, 2021, 09:53:43
Very much what Batch says.

If its lets say "The Nationwide County Ground" then if they fork out lots of money then I have no problem.

If its "The Nationwide Ground" then thats not acceptable IMO.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Quagmire on Monday, September 6, 2021, 09:55:13
I’d like to see The County Ground dropped completely and it named after a payday loan or betting company just for the reaction on the supporters Facebook page.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, September 6, 2021, 10:01:14
The BLM and LGBTQ ground.

Would be fun.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, September 6, 2021, 10:03:33
They can call it what they like, it will always be the County Ground to the fans. No amount of sponsorship money can change that.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Monday, September 6, 2021, 10:14:20
If Zav comes on board then it could be called the County Lines Ground I guess and to recognise a popular community activity.

Don't recall much of a fuss when it became the Energy Check County Ground.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JBZ on Monday, September 6, 2021, 10:22:20
Couldn't care less if we get a new sponsor for the ground, good amount of money for the club and everyone will still call it the County Ground anyway.

Agreed


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Abrahammer on Monday, September 6, 2021, 10:33:01
Agreed

You get a load of money, a few signs with a company’s name get put up, everyone ignores the new name


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, September 6, 2021, 10:51:39
The ‘Lee Power County Ground’.

Lest we forget.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Monday, September 6, 2021, 11:29:07
The Callum Rice Arena is giving me nostalgic thoughts of recent heritage. How about the Jamie Sendles-White Soccer Orb? The Jay Box Stadium?  :hmmm:

There could also be a possibility of integrating a new walkway to the ground.... called No No No Flint Way!

Back to ground renaming it surely gives an opportunity to give an nod to an absolute Town legend...with the heroic display of bravery, stoic leadership and ultimate in professionalist enigmas...surely the naming of the stadium should be:

The Kelvin Freewater Legacy Football Park (but written in Welsh)  :soapy tit wank:


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Monday, September 6, 2021, 17:47:52
❗On The Sofa with Clem, Rob and Zav❗

Vic Morgan will be joined by Chairmain Clem Morfuni, CEO Rob Angus and potential new Vice Charman Zavier Austin to discuss all the current news at SN1!

LIVE 7pm, Monday 6th Sept @ www.facebook.com/STFCSupClub

#STFC 🔴⚪
About to start for anyone with an hour spare  :)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: ronnie21 on Monday, September 6, 2021, 18:10:09
About to start for anyone with an hour spare  :)
Got a link please?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: tans on Monday, September 6, 2021, 18:10:42
Zav is the guy with the conviction. He’s just said so


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: tans on Monday, September 6, 2021, 18:36:00
Zav Austin turned whistleblower by the sounds of it, informed Clem of LP dodgy dealings


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Monday, September 6, 2021, 18:38:48
Power then ordered his heavies to............


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: MCRRed on Monday, September 6, 2021, 18:49:53
Anyone else clock Zav's pink Y-fronts?!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Stef Troll on Monday, September 6, 2021, 18:51:12
Clem couldn’t look less interested in this interview even if he tried. Looking at his phone every 2 minutes.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Frigby Daser on Monday, September 6, 2021, 19:00:29
Beggars can’t be choosers, but if I was a chooser, I wouldn’t choose Austin.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Monday, September 6, 2021, 19:00:46
Zav Austin turned whistleblower by the sounds of it, informed Clem of LP dodgy dealings


All linked to one individual taking money from the “friendship” group.




Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Monday, September 6, 2021, 19:01:44
Power then ordered his heavies to............
On the money my friend.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Monday, September 6, 2021, 19:02:08
Quote from: StefPol
Clem couldn’t look less interested in this interview even if he tried. Looking at his phone every 2 minutes.

he could have been looking at the Facebook comments


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JoeMezz on Monday, September 6, 2021, 19:03:25
he could have been looking at the Facebook comments

Judging by the grin on his face when he saw all the pants comments coming through, I agree


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: china red on Monday, September 6, 2021, 19:04:22
What did Zav actually do?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Ginginho on Monday, September 6, 2021, 19:04:24
Quote

Clem couldn’t look less interested in this interview even if he tried. Looking at his phone every 2 minutes.

I don't think he was looking at his phone, I thought he was taking notes in all honesty.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JoeMezz on Monday, September 6, 2021, 19:05:10
What did Zav actually do?

Stood up as his mrs had accidentally turned the tv on and he was wearing little pink Y fronts


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Monday, September 6, 2021, 19:07:01
I'd say the questioning was pretty tame from Vic from what I saw

But Austin says it was 18 years ago and he's moved on. So I'm not sure what else you can ask on that. 'Are you going to use the club to money launder' isn't really with it!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Monday, September 6, 2021, 19:07:09
A thoroughly refreshing listen - I have a feeling we are in good hands.

Happy to give Austin the benefit of the doubt myself, a conviction nearly 20 years ago - with the odd exception, people should be allowed to rebuild their lives. I’m sure some of our permanently outraged will have a different view, and I look forward to which TEF’r declares they will boycott until his departure. Maybe that’s why PaulD has been so quiet  ;)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Monday, September 6, 2021, 19:09:13
I'd say the questioning was pretty tame from Vic from what I saw

But Austin says it was 18 years ago and he's moved on. So I'm not sure what else you can ask on that. 'Are you going to use the club to money launder' isn't really with it!
I did think similar going by Vic’s usual standards, but you’re quite right around what possible follow ups were available.

Some absolute gold in the questions coming in, my favourite couple being the one demanding to know why Clem hasn’t put in £4 million like he supposedly promised and the suggestion we should take a reduced allocation for Rovers away which Rob was understandly bemused by  :D


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Monday, September 6, 2021, 19:09:52
Await JBZ's cryptic assessment ::)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Monday, September 6, 2021, 19:13:19
For those interested in replica’s:

- Earliest further stock of the home shirt would arrive is April/May - the impression I got is that the club aren’t going to bother
- GK shirt will be restocked once demand is assessed
- 3rd shirt to be released in the next couple of months (non-committal on colour)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, September 6, 2021, 19:18:15
There's not much that can be said about Zav after that. Nothing particularly revealing or satisfying was said. That's not a criticism, I doubt we could have expected much more from it.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Private Fraser on Monday, September 6, 2021, 19:27:25
Bit concerned that Clem seems to be putting all his eggs in the Austin basket. I wish Vic had asked Clem what he planned to do if Austin didn’t get the EFL stamp of approval? Has he got a second choice lined up? Doesn’t seem like it.

Lots of apparent bogus accounts on the question feed!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: stfcjack on Monday, September 6, 2021, 19:29:20
Would someone be able to put in a brief summary of what was said? Cheers


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Monday, September 6, 2021, 19:29:59
Any suggestion the questions were sensored to stop any awkward moments live on social media


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, September 6, 2021, 19:30:57
Bit concerned that Clem seems to be putting all his eggs in the Austin basket.

I've no idea how you have come to the conclusion he is.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Monday, September 6, 2021, 19:31:08
Would someone be able to put in a brief summary of what was said? Cheers

Keep checking YouTube as they normally get posted the same evening


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Private Fraser on Monday, September 6, 2021, 19:32:48
Any suggestion the questions were sensored to stop any awkward moments live on social media

No. Vic even asked a couple of the questions raised by one of the persistent, bogus accounts (one was about why Clem hasn’t paid of the EFL loan yet).


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Monday, September 6, 2021, 19:33:38
Cheers 👍


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JBZ on Monday, September 6, 2021, 19:38:07
Await JBZ's cryptic assessment ::)

Didn't tune in my frequently posting buddy.  Spent the evening enjoying the sunny weather in W-s-M.  Had some chips and an ice cream.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Private Fraser on Monday, September 6, 2021, 19:39:10
Would someone be able to put in a brief summary of what was said? Cheers

It’s up now on the You Tube channel.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Ginginho on Monday, September 6, 2021, 19:42:25
Zav had skimpy pink pants on 😂




Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Monday, September 6, 2021, 19:51:11
Would someone be able to put in a brief summary of what was said? Cheers
The key points were:

Zav:
- Zav admitted that he was convicted for a crime. He didn't say what specific crime, but was at pains to point out that it was a paper crime and not one where people were hurt
- He said he had rebuilt his life since. Including building a business in the same field as Clem
- He said that he was introduced to Power as being an honourable and successful business man. He later introduced Clem to Power in order for Clem to invest. He vouched for Power to Clem
- After a while, Zav smelled a rat, and determined that Power was crooked.
- Zav felt bad that he had vouched for Power to Clem and that Power was screwing him behind his back. So, Zav spilled the beans to Clem

Zav's pants:
- He stood up in the middle of the webchat to switch on the TV for his wife. He was wearing a black T-shirt and a pair of tiny pink Y fronts!
- Rob Angus looked shocked and Clem started to laugh!

Replica kit:
- Can't get any more home kit until next March/April due to manufacturing problems Puma are having.
- The reason for the long delay is because it is 'bespoke' kit. Rather than off the shelf.
- So, from context, Swindon are releasing a 3rd kit. But they wouldn't say what colour.

Clem:
- Not paying debts to get embargo lifted. Will look at that for January window if necessary
- As for returning to the UK: Expects to be back around Christmas for the January window (and winked)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Monday, September 6, 2021, 19:52:54
Any suggestion the questions were sensored to stop any awkward moments live on social media
They made a point of saying that Clem, Rob and Zav had agreed to answer any question.

Zav and Clem aren't the best speakers. Zav was a bit rambling and dull - On purpose? Possible.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Monday, September 6, 2021, 19:55:20
Cheers nomoreheroes I'll take a look at the YouTube video


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: stfcjack on Monday, September 6, 2021, 19:56:46
Thanks all, heard people saying that he referenced powers cronies were involved in his assault?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Monday, September 6, 2021, 19:58:03
Cheers nomoreheroes I'll take a look at the YouTube video
Oh! Don't believe me eh? I gerrit!  :smugfu:

There's a bit more about the Stevenage incident, flares, speaker system, hand sanitizer and paper towels and a couple of annecdotes about people working hard and working for nothing.

Nothing Earth shattering


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Monday, September 6, 2021, 19:59:05
Thanks all, heard people saying that he referenced powers cronies were involved in his assault?
I think he implied it. I didnt hear it. But I skipped bits as it was dull.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Monday, September 6, 2021, 20:02:56
What exactly was his crime in 2003 which he owned up to in court


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: otanswell on Monday, September 6, 2021, 20:32:11
Money laundering cocaine money


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JoeMezz on Monday, September 6, 2021, 20:39:20
Clem also said that they aren’t paying off the embargo yet. Are they perhaps waiting to see if Power is ordered to pay the debt / loan at the court hearing coming up?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Monday, September 6, 2021, 20:40:44
Money laundering cocaine money


Cheers I never knew


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Crozzer on Monday, September 6, 2021, 20:47:09
- So, from context, Swindon are releasing a 3rd kit. But they wouldn't say what colour.



Same as Zav's Y-Fronts?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Monday, September 6, 2021, 21:07:29
Austin also said he wasn't investing in the club


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Monday, September 6, 2021, 21:22:40
Austin also said he wasn't investing in the club
He said he didn't have money to invest.

He also referred to Clem being a very rich man.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, September 7, 2021, 08:34:31
They made a point of saying that Clem, Rob and Zav had agreed to answer any question.

Zav and Clem aren't the best speakers. Zav was a bit rambling and dull - On purpose? Possible.

A hell of a lot of people are crap at speaking, its rarely a sign of intelligence and ability, one only has to look at the fact that most politicians are chosen on their to speak rather than ability.

Only listened to about 20 mins so far and they all see pretty open in their answers.

EDIT - WTF, Clem doesn't drink!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, September 7, 2021, 08:43:43
So re the embargo and I have probably misunderstood this. From what Clem just said the Embargo was for 12 months and interest free to pay off. It was £1,000,040 and we've paid off £175,000 of it. What happens after the 12 months? Do we then HAVE no option but to pay the remainder of it?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, September 7, 2021, 09:08:49
I know many people have spoken about it but I think given the lack of a home shirt until April/May, a third kit, out in time for Christmas is a brilliant marketing idea by the club. (sounds like their hands are tied re the home kit unfortunately) I have a feeling given what the club are doing around the renaming of the stands and the nod to history I reckon the third strip is going to have a heavy nod to the 1969 league cup final winning shirt and therefore is likely to be very popular!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, September 7, 2021, 09:10:19
I may have drifted off at some point, but did Austin say there was any ongoing investigation about his beating, given that he seems to be pretty clear about who was behind it? Or isn't the police taking any interest? Which would seem odd.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Tuesday, September 7, 2021, 09:16:07
I know many people have spoken about it but I think given the lack of a home shirt until April/May, a third kit, out in time for Christmas is a brilliant marketing idea by the club. (sounds like their hands are tied re the home kit unfortunately) I have a feeling given what the club are doing around the renaming of the stands and the nod to history I reckon the third strip is going to have a heavy nod to the 1969 league cup final winning shirt and therefore is likely to be very popular!

Add to that, which also could be a bit of a gamble but if Town by Jan/Feb are in a pretty good position then it would absolutely make sense to confirm an order of Home shirts for beginning of April. In that last month of the season, they would sell like hot cakes. Scarcity certainly would bring demand but it does hinge on Town continuing to do well methinks (it's also a natural conclusion).

I agree though that in the interim some form of stylised retro shirt would be a good move. Could be a good year for the shirt sales dept   :pint:


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, September 7, 2021, 09:44:07
Add to that, which also could be a bit of a gamble but if Town by Jan/Feb are in a pretty good position then it would absolutely make sense to confirm an order of Home shirts for beginning of April. In that last month of the season, they would sell like hot cakes. Scarcity certainly would bring demand but it does hinge on Town continuing to do well methinks (it's also a natural conclusion).

I agree though that in the interim some form of stylised retro shirt would be a good move. Could be a good year for the shirt sales dept   :pint:

I think that depends on whether the home shirt is being kept for next season or if we're bringing in a new one. Fans aren't going to pay £45 quid (or whatever they cost) towards the end of the season in that instance. April is the time you sell off the older stock for £15-20.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, September 7, 2021, 09:53:41
Generally thought they came across well, think Clem was less looking at his phone and more letting the other two get on with it (TBF as we couldn't see what he was looking at he could have just been cupping himself and admiring its scale), likewise Austin seemed reasonably open and whilst he went on a bit I did like that he often seemed to want to give longer more detailed answers than Vic seemed to be seeking which hopefully doesn't show a guy with loads to hide. He also kept piping up wanting to speak rather than having to be prodded!

If anything he came across as a bit naive, seemed to have been drawn in by Power and similarly seemed to be a bit in awe of Clem.

Much as with Clem the cynic in me reserves judgment, but for now they are either very very good actors or at least trying to be sincere.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Frigby Daser on Tuesday, September 7, 2021, 10:12:46
Beggars can’t be choosers, but if I was a chooser, I wouldn’t choose Austin.

Edit: have now watched some of it. Fair play for fronting up. It’s more than the old lot did. I’d rather there was no murky past, because it makes you uneasy about the present, but it is what it is. People often spoke about how Power spoke a good game in his audiences with Hodgetts. He’s here, let’s get on with it, with a sensible dose of caution.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Tuesday, September 7, 2021, 10:26:30
I think that depends on whether the home shirt is being kept for next season or if we're bringing in a new one. Fans aren't going to pay £45 quid (or whatever they cost) towards the end of the season in that instance. April is the time you sell off the older stock for £15-20.

Whilst I agree BO, I also think it depends on how the club is doing in a given season. If it was going in the direction of last season that absolutely knock down shirts for nominal return. If the club are looking like good promotion contenders (auto or prem) people will want to get hold of one of those elusive shirts (especially as it is one of the best in recent years). It also works if it's marketed that way "Help the Town push for the Play-Offs, New stock of 21/22 Home shirts available now, while stocks last!"

It's a mild difference of opinion but in that scenario, I think fans would shell out and as you say it also depends if the shirt continues into next season. It would be nice if it did as it's a cracking shirt. Definitely a collectors item. Back to you in the studio Des :)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, September 9, 2021, 12:13:14
I'm struggling to understand what Zav brings to the club to be appointed to the board listening to him, Clem as owner obviously, Rob as CEO obviously, but surely any others I would have thought Clem would want people with particular skills / contacts etc to complement the existing


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, September 9, 2021, 12:15:15
I'm struggling to understand what Zav brings to the club to be appointed to the board listening to him, Clem as owner obviously, Rob as CEO obviously, but surely any others I would have thought Clem would want people with particular skills / contacts etc to complement the existing

I think the big thing he brings for the owner is that he is UK based and the owner trusts him, no more than that really?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Thursday, September 9, 2021, 12:17:27
I'm struggling to understand what Zav brings to the club to be appointed to the board listening to him, Clem as owner obviously, Rob as CEO obviously, but surely any others I would have thought Clem would want people with particular skills / contacts etc to complement the existing

Initially brought all the investors together.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, September 9, 2021, 12:27:46
I think the big thing he brings for the owner is that he is UK based and the owner trusts him, no more than that really?

Yeah, I don't think there's much to read into it. Just somebody who he trusts to take his place while he's absent.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: RobertT on Thursday, September 9, 2021, 12:45:26
I'm struggling to understand what Zav brings to the club to be appointed to the board listening to him, Clem as owner obviously, Rob as CEO obviously, but surely any others I would have thought Clem would want people with particular skills / contacts etc to complement the existing

Don't confuse the Board of Directors with the roles of the Executive Leadership.  Zav will likely have very little day to day input, he is there to vote on key decisions and add Clem's viewpoint when required.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Kent_Red on Thursday, September 9, 2021, 13:10:40
I haven't seen the broadcast but did anyone ask Clem why Power is still a director of Swindon Town Football Company Ltd?  Given they are the only current directors it does leave LP with significant influence on key matters.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Thursday, September 9, 2021, 13:53:49
it does leave LP with significant influence on key matters.

It doesn't though does it. He won't have the casting vote.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Kent_Red on Thursday, September 9, 2021, 14:16:02
Nothing in the Articles to say that the Chairman has the casting vote either.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, September 9, 2021, 14:29:06
Perhaps he can't officially be removed officially as a director until after the upcoming court case?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Thursday, September 9, 2021, 14:37:38
Nothing in the Articles to say that the Chairman has the casting vote either.

Interesting that you've even read them. Are you a friend of our former fat controller? *IF* Austin gets approved, its a non issue anyway.

Does he even have any influence should he have the nerve to show up to a board meeting. I don't think so. Not as regulated as member meetings.

https://www.companylawclub.co.uk/board-meetings

Quote
Casting vote
13. (1) If the numbers of votes for and against a proposal are equal, the chairman or other director chairing the meeting has a casting vote.
(2) But this does not apply if, in accordance with the articles, the chairman or other director is not to be counted as participating in the decision-making process for quorum or voting purposes.

My (probably wrong) interpretation of company law is that in a members meeting the majority shareholding wins the vote.



Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, September 9, 2021, 14:42:47
Perhaps he can't officially be removed officially as a director until after the upcoming court case?

I strongly suspect this is the case.

Ultimately him being a Director means SFA in the scheme of things in the real world. The sole shareholder is Clem, I cannot imagine Power is seeing anything to do with the day to day running of the club.

Would be useful if this could be clarified just to stop the shit stirring though.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Thursday, September 9, 2021, 17:01:25
Perhaps he can't officially be removed officially as a director until after the upcoming court case?

I think you’re onto something there. As the old company is still functioning and LP was the big cheese, he’s responsible for the good bits and the bbaaaaaaddddddd bits. Clem only had official capacity as a shareholder late on into this saga and even then no real say. The club, Swinton Reds, or Seebeck etc are under investigation from a number of angles, Pee Lower is responsible for anything not quiet how shall we say, Kosher? Don’t forget the IR can go back what? Seven years? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 that is just one worry Pee Lower has to contend with, how about Customs and Excise, VAT in other words. The new directors of the original club will legally hold him to account. What say you Duke?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Boeta on Thursday, September 9, 2021, 19:01:20
On a different note, with the stuff with the women's team tonight and Clem getting in the nets at Swindon CC, Rob Angus has shown time and again over the past few weeks that he knows exactly how a football club is a community institution and how to develop that

Interesting article in the times this week on Grimsby along the same lines:
 https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ca743482-0e45-11ec-8e58-a3a2e14a7850?shareToken=dd82112da46fabe059879345438b80ef


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Thursday, September 9, 2021, 19:25:21
it's good that they are starting to branch out and promoting stfc into schools and local youth football clubs too


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: @MacPhlea on Thursday, September 9, 2021, 20:27:22
I think you’re onto something there. As the old company is still functioning and LP was the big cheese, he’s responsible for the good bits and the bbaaaaaaddddddd bits. Clem only had official capacity as a shareholder late on into this saga and even then no real say. The club, Swinton Reds, or Seebeck etc are under investigation from a number of angles, Pee Lower is responsible for anything not quiet how shall we say, Kosher? Don’t forget the IR can go back what? Seven years? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 that is just one worry Pee Lower has to contend with, how about Customs and Excise, VAT in other words. The new directors of the original club will legally hold him to account. What say you Duke?

This my take on the current set up also - keep Pee Lower on a chain next to the gallows whilst all the shit is flushed out.  Once the shit chamber is empty he can be released or be hung


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Thursday, September 9, 2021, 20:53:47
This my take on the current set up also - keep Pee Lower on a chain next to the gallows whilst all the shit is flushed out.  Once the shit chamber is empty he can be released or be hung

Thank you for your glowing testimonial 😁 I based my comment not on concrete fact but hearsay, whispers and what has been disseminated by the current owners and my own understanding of dodgy business dealings and practices built up over many decades, life experiences if you will. Not forgetting other well documented football shenanigans etc. The clock is ticking on Pee Lower and his associates.

Just consider the excuse of Pee Lower not officially handing over the shares to Clem because of a tax liability. How long had it been since he trousered the money before he had to cave in because of the court process. You’d have to think that at least the inland revenue would take a mild interest? Mr. Austin ought to have 24/7 protection because I have a feeling he knows shitloads more that those who may know stuff have alluded to from the club or via ITK fans, genuine or otherwise. The next six months are going to be very interesting and revealing, though be prepared for stuff to be officially ‘buried’ due to circumstances deemed necessary by the legal process and confidentiality laws.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, September 10, 2021, 08:08:54
On a different note, with the stuff with the women's team tonight and Clem getting in the nets at Swindon CC, Rob Angus has shown time and again over the past few weeks that he knows exactly how a football club is a community institution and how to develop that

Interesting article in the times this week on Grimsby along the same lines:
 https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ca743482-0e45-11ec-8e58-a3a2e14a7850?shareToken=dd82112da46fabe059879345438b80ef

Beginning to look mile Sporting Club de Swindon, very similar to what John Hall tried to do at Newcastle.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Sunday, September 12, 2021, 14:49:09
.
https://youtu.be/_u1kwdhFO1g


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: tans on Thursday, September 16, 2021, 14:56:40
Suspended 3 point deduction for when fatboy didnt pay Junes wages


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Saxondale on Thursday, September 16, 2021, 15:03:36
Thats a pretty good and sensible outcome.

Now lets wait for the points deduction for dodgy people fighting over the ownership of the club.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, September 16, 2021, 15:07:01
No real issue with that, as long as something is also done about the people who allowed it to happen.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, September 16, 2021, 15:12:52
That 'suspension' might be lifted depending on what else happens


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, September 16, 2021, 15:20:51
That 'suspension' might be lifted depending on what else happens

The suspended 3 points won't be lifted as long as we don't breach rule 63.7.........

'The terms of a Standard Contract between a Club and a Player shall be strictly adhered to.'

We may very well get some other punishments for other misdemeanors that Mr Power caused but I'm relatively confident we won't see a points deduction this specific one.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Thursday, September 16, 2021, 15:24:15
"There is also a suspended 3-point deduction that won't come into effect unless the Football Club breaches Regulation 63.7 on or before 30 June 2022"


Should be good until the end of the season


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, September 16, 2021, 15:26:39
Jolly good


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, September 16, 2021, 16:09:32
Hopefully the new regime are building a decent relationship with the FA pushing a 'then v. now' narrative that could prove useful in the coming months.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JoeMezz on Thursday, September 16, 2021, 17:36:23
Sensible decision from the EFL. As others have said, let's wait for the court case...


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, September 17, 2021, 05:59:22
Clem's exploits have reached his homeland. Am I being picky, but do I detect a change of emphasis to what he says over here?

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/meet-the-sydney-plumber-who-saved-an-english-soccer-club-from-oblivion-20210915-p58rwp.html


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bogus Dave on Friday, September 17, 2021, 06:12:38
The bit about bringing Aussie kids over is something he’d previously said he wasn’t going to do wasn’t it?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Sippo on Friday, September 17, 2021, 06:13:47
2 hours west of London?! Sounds about right with all the fucking roadworks.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Friday, September 17, 2021, 06:15:10
45 minutes from Junction 15 to the CG  :)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Pookemon on Friday, September 17, 2021, 06:16:29
Clem's exploits have reached his homeland. Am I being picky, but do I detect a change of emphasis to what he says over here?

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/meet-the-sydney-plumber-who-saved-an-english-soccer-club-from-oblivion-20210915-p58rwp.html

Not really - the bit about making money is just really explaining the difference between owning an Australian and English club.   The risk and rewards are much bigger so a bit more exciting over here than down under


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Friday, September 17, 2021, 06:39:37
Clem's exploits have reached his homeland. Am I being picky, but do I detect a change of emphasis to what he says over here?

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/meet-the-sydney-plumber-who-saved-an-english-soccer-club-from-oblivion-20210915-p58rwp.html
In what sense? Nothing we’ve never heard before in my opinion


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Friday, September 17, 2021, 06:53:55
Quote from: Bogus Dave
The bit about bringing Aussie kids over is something he’d previously said he wasn’t going to do wasn’t it?

I think he said there were good kids everywhere and he'd take whoever fits the bill. words to that effect anyway


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: REDBUCK on Friday, September 17, 2021, 07:02:08
Are people looking for chinks in the armour already?.

Lets hope Saturday goes well and is not the start of a poor run. If that happens it'll be a good test of all this feel good factor, I'm sure some will start upping the negative comments.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Friday, September 17, 2021, 07:27:16
it's good to get the club press in the land of down under


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bogus Dave on Friday, September 17, 2021, 07:47:34
I think he said there were good kids everywhere and he'd take whoever fits the bill. words to that effect anyway

Fair enough, I must have misremembered.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Crispy on Friday, September 17, 2021, 07:58:31
Clem's exploits have reached his homeland. Am I being picky, but do I detect a change of emphasis to what he says over here?

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/meet-the-sydney-plumber-who-saved-an-english-soccer-club-from-oblivion-20210915-p58rwp.html

"Two months ago, the self-made tycoon became the owner of the city’s only football club, Swindon Town"

That annoyed me way more than it should have.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, September 17, 2021, 08:03:01
"Two months ago, the self-made tycoon became the owner of the city’s only football club, Swindon Town"

That annoyed me way more than it should have.

That wasn't lost on me, either.

I mean, the clue is in the fucking name. A rather fucking huge clue at that.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Friday, September 17, 2021, 08:04:39
That wasn't lost on me, either.

I mean, the clue is in the fucking name. A rather fucking huge clue at that.

You should be more indignant for the use of Soccer and not football club.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, September 17, 2021, 08:05:42
2 hours west of London?! Sounds about right with all the fucking roadworks.

If you open google maps, put in 'London' to 'Swindon' and choose driving it says 1 hour 54 minutes. Obviously you have to start slap bang in the centre of London so most of that time is getting out of the bloody capital!!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, September 17, 2021, 08:10:14
You should be more indignant for the use of Soccer and not football club.

No, I should not.

1) It's an Australian newspaper - so they're obviously going to use the Ozzie vernacular.
2) The word soccer originated from England anyway.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, September 17, 2021, 08:10:58
Well I didn't know he was a Spurs ST holder.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Sippo on Friday, September 17, 2021, 08:45:44
Why did Clem not invest in a club in his own country? Not complaining, just curious.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Friday, September 17, 2021, 08:50:32
Why did Clem not invest in a club in his own country? Not complaining, just curious.

Quote
“I do pump a lot of money into football here as well,” he said. “People are going to ask, why didn’t I buy an A-League club? I thought the opportunity to try and buy an English club is a lot better because when you go up the leagues, you can make a lot more money. If I get in the Championship I get £10 million ($18.9 million). The difference between here and there is you’re buying and selling players. If I buy a kid for 50 grand, I can go and sell him for a million quid, or two, or five. Then you get a sell-on clause on their contract.”


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, September 17, 2021, 08:50:54
Why did Clem not invest in a club in his own country? Not complaining, just curious.

That's covered in the article.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Friday, September 17, 2021, 09:22:53
That wasn't lost on me, either.

I mean, the clue is in the fucking name. A rather fucking huge clue at that.

Similar grievance there myself.

I was impressed with the load time of the site though, for a rag. Compared with several other media sites. It was pretty rapid.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Friday, September 17, 2021, 09:25:42
That's covered in the article.

somebody should cut and paste it :)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, September 17, 2021, 09:40:08
No, I should not.

1) It's an Australian newspaper - so they're obviously going to use the aussie vernacular.
2) The word soccer originated from England anyway.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, September 17, 2021, 10:59:31
I can't find it anywhere so assume it's still in progress but it's been 5 weeks since we announced Zav Austin was going to be added to the board. I suppose as the EFL took what seemed like an age to give Clem the green light we are going to have to wait longer before Austin is announced or not?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: RobertT on Friday, September 17, 2021, 11:34:27
I'm not sure on the Aussies, but the USA generally only have Cities, regardless of size.  The soccer thing also amuses me because people will apologise for using it here, but I then remind the word it is indeed from England anyway, before nudging them on NFL being a game started by posh colleges who messed around with Rugby rules.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, September 17, 2021, 11:40:51
I've no idea how I managed to quote myself above.

I said recently that the TEF's haunted, and I'm sticking with it.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: RobertT on Friday, September 17, 2021, 12:37:02
A quick google returns the fact that Aussies give City status to any population centre over 25,000 that isn't a suburb of a bigger City.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Friday, September 17, 2021, 14:56:46
What i like is that it's quite clear what the plan is for Clem. If he wants the plan to work that will work out well for us in the long run


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, September 17, 2021, 15:41:00
Any plan at any club depends entirely on success on the pitch.

It’s Clem’s plan but Garner has to deliver it.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Friday, September 17, 2021, 15:42:39
A quick google returns the fact that Aussies give City status to any population centre over 25,000 that isn't a suburb of a bigger City.

Well in that case Salisbury, Trowbridge and Chippenham for that matter can fuck off, we’re the capitol of Wiltshire now.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: bathford on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 19:13:56
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/meet-the-sydney-plumber-who-saved-an-english-soccer-club-from-oblivion-20210915-p58rwp.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR2mw7VlzVLjrzwNDkaVec7E7Q4hNMQTRUm2bYK0T8OtzR26TXcorthp2oY#Echobox=1631865447

The above link is an interesting read. 


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Private Fraser on Tuesday, September 21, 2021, 07:10:36
Wasn't sure where to put this but spotted this thread on my Twitter feed this morning. An update on why there have been no sightings of Football Phil at the CG so far this season. I hope it can be resolved.

https://twitter.com/RachelT1722/status/1439899555449999363?s=20


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, September 21, 2021, 07:31:53
Wasn't sure where to put this but spotted this thread on my Twitter feed this morning. An update on why there have been no sightings of Football Phil at the CG so far this season. I hope it can be resolved.

https://twitter.com/RachelT1722/status/1439899555449999363?s=20

Sad that. Definitely at the Cobblers to reaffirm he is travelling away.
Hope he gets back to the CG to scatter the away fans.
No harm and loves his footy.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Robinz on Tuesday, September 21, 2021, 07:42:35
Good luck to Phil and although I have never heard of him I really suggest that someone should make the club aware of the present situation.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Private Fraser on Tuesday, September 21, 2021, 07:59:05
Good luck to Phil and although I have never heard of him I really suggest that someone should make the club aware of the present situation.

The CEO was copied in on one of the Tweets.



Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, September 22, 2021, 06:07:58

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/19594899.clem-morfuni-tells-australian-press-living-dream-swindon-ownership/


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, September 22, 2021, 06:18:14
Not impossible by any means, but next season could see us, piss stains and Reading in the same league. Shen was the last time that happened? This century?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Tails on Wednesday, September 22, 2021, 09:06:41
Not impossible by any means, but next season could see us, piss stains and Reading in the same league. Shen was the last time that happened? This century?

2000-01. Also had Bristol Rovers & City!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, September 22, 2021, 09:57:33
Shit! Bet the Old Bill loved that!

Was that when Kerouche scored in the win at the Madejski?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, September 22, 2021, 10:01:58
Shit! Bet the Old Bill loved that!

Was that when Kerouche scored in the win at the Madejski?
No that was way before then mate, that was the Invincible keeping us up witht he goal home to Posh season. We got beat 2-0 at the Mad-ski stadium that season.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, September 22, 2021, 10:03:52
Shit! Bet the Old Bill loved that!

Was that when Kerouche scored in the win at the Madejski?

Kerrouche was way after that! I'd imagine it was someone more like Grazioli around those times!


Title: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, September 22, 2021, 10:04:54
2001, day after my birthday, sunny and warm, won at the mad jet ski 3-1. Graz, invincible and Joe oesi-kaffour bagged

edit: shit, wrong season. still our last visit in the league there though


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, September 22, 2021, 10:08:39
Kerrouche was way after that! I'd imagine it was someone more like Grazioli around those times!

Was indeed.... http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/MatchCentre.asp?MatchID=20010102

Considering what a shit season it was, we did reasonably well against our local rivals (bar Reading).

Reading lost both, Home 0-1 Away 0-2
Oxford won both Home 2-1 Away 2-0
Rovers  Home 1-3 Away 0-0
City  Home 1-1 Away 1-0


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, September 22, 2021, 10:16:55
2001, day after my birthday, sunny and warm, won at the mad jet ski 3-1. Graz, invincible and Joe oesi-kaffour bagged

edit: shit, wrong season. still our last visit in the league there though
That’s it! Joe Kuffour, not Kerrouche.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, September 22, 2021, 10:55:16
https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2021/september/stfc-advisory-board-meets-for-the-first-time/


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, September 22, 2021, 11:26:53
Taylor Curran has some fucking nerve.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, September 22, 2021, 11:31:17
Taylor Curran has some fucking nerve.

I was about to post something similar. It sounds like there is £200k potentially owed to McGreal, Gilmartin, Curran and Jewell and £100k of a loan from 'able'. Hopefully the lawyer we have on the panel will be able to deal with those costs. My eyes shot out of their sockets when I saw Curran included in that claim!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, September 22, 2021, 11:37:17
Its worth having a read through all the minutes etc as shows just how much has been done, and how much needs to be done.

Pleasingly, albeit I imagine he isn't doing it for the love and won't be coming cheap, Eddie Parladorio seems a very senior and clued up guy!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, September 22, 2021, 11:38:13
Taylor Curran's daddy has some fucking nerve.

FIFY


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, September 22, 2021, 11:39:05
Its worth having a read through all the minutes etc as shows just how much has been done, and how much needs to be done.

Pleasingly, albeit I imagine he isn't doing it for the love and won't be coming cheap, Eddie Parladorio seems a very senior and clued up guy!

he does - FYI there is a thread about this now Horlock :)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, September 22, 2021, 11:41:08
I was about to post something similar. It sounds like there is £200k potentially owed to McGreal, Gilmartin, Curran and Jewell and £100k of a loan from 'able'. Hopefully the lawyer we have on the panel will be able to deal with those costs. My eyes shot out of their sockets when I saw Curran included in that claim!
Thought they all resigned. Fuck ‘em!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, September 22, 2021, 11:44:08
I was about to post something similar. It sounds like there is £200k potentially owed to McGreal, Gilmartin, Curran and Jewell and £100k of a loan from 'able'. Hopefully the lawyer we have on the panel will be able to deal with those costs. My eyes shot out of their sockets when I saw Curran included in that claim!
I can understand the surprise but TBH Curran had 2 years left on his 3 year contract, I am sure he would have got a decent wage of say £1,000 per week due to his fathers subsidising the club so 2 years at £50k per year then he will be paid up around £100k, even if he was only on £500pw thats still a £50k buyout of his contract.

Thought they all resigned. Fuck ‘em!
Football contacts are a law unto themselves. Often when a manager resigns the club pay the remainder of his contract up in full. Why this has always happened I have no idea, its rare that a manager leaves and all wage ties are severed instantly.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, September 22, 2021, 11:45:42
I can understand the surprise but TBH Curran had 2 years left on his 3 year contract, I am sure he would have got a decent wage of say £1,000 per week due to his fathers subsidising the club so 2 years at £50k per year then he will be paid up around £100k, even if he was only on £500pw thats still a £50k buyout of his contract.

Yeah you are right JJ, sadly! Money for old rope isn't it. (or was that part of the Twine sale, ho ho)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, September 22, 2021, 12:16:11
I can understand the surprise but TBH Curran had 2 years left on his 3 year contract, I am sure he would have got a decent wage of say £1,000 per week due to his fathers subsidising the club so 2 years at £50k per year then he will be paid up around £100k, even if he was only on £500pw thats still a £50k buyout of his contract.
Football contacts are a law unto themselves. Often when a manager resigns the club pay the remainder of his contract up in full. Why this has always happened I have no idea, its rare that a manager leaves and all wage ties are severed instantly.
Or was that the real reason McGreal came - knowing there would be a constructive dismissal case to get fully paid up. Hope that prevents him for working in the meantime.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: THE FLASH on Wednesday, September 22, 2021, 12:50:03
I can understand the surprise but TBH Curran had 2 years left on his 3 year contract, I am sure he would have got a decent wage of say £1,000 per week due to his fathers subsidising the club so 2 years at £50k per year then he will be paid up around £100k, even if he was only on £500pw thats still a £50k buyout of his contract.
Football contacts are a law unto themselves. Often when a manager resigns the club pay the remainder of his contract up in full. Why this has always happened I have no idea, its rare that a manager leaves and all wage ties are severed instantly.

Curran, the worst ive seen... sigh...


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Oaksey Moonraker on Wednesday, September 22, 2021, 19:18:52
I thought the arrangement with managers and coaches is their wages get paid regular until they find another job or reach a compromise agreement with the old club.

You usually see them rock up at a new club when the settle their old club saying they have 'enjoyed a break from the game.

There are often arguements over taking a new job on less money as the old club will only pay the difference in salary and a lot of brinkmanship. Remember Phil Brown claiming he was owed money by LP.

I guess McGreal could argue constructive dismissal as he couldn't bring in the players he was promised. Whereas the club could say you didn't stick it out until the takeover and we've backed our new manager.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Thursday, September 23, 2021, 07:20:28
I thought the arrangement with managers and coaches is their wages get paid regular until they find another job or reach a compromise agreement with the old club.

You usually see them rock up at a new club when the settle their old club saying they have 'enjoyed a break from the game.

There are often arguements over taking a new job on less money as the old club will only pay the difference in salary and a lot of brinkmanship. Remember Phil Brown claiming he was owed money by LP.

I guess McGreal could argue constructive dismissal as he couldn't bring in the players he was promised. Whereas the club could say you didn't stick it out until the takeover and we've backed our new manager.
Reading between the lines i think it may be safe to say McGreal knew from day 1 what was going to happen and rocked up signed a very nice deal and fucked off knowing he is probably entitled to a pay off. 9/10 times it is likely to work but it looks like we have someone who is prepared to take it as far as they can and argue that the contract signed etc was dodgy


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, September 29, 2021, 10:10:21
Yet another sponsorship deal announced today - Wagamama. Probably not huge but there seems to be one every week or so!

I wonder if it ever crossed Power’s mind to actually run the club honestly.

What’s the fat cunt doing nowadays?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: THE FLASH on Wednesday, September 29, 2021, 10:15:16
Yet another sponsorship deal announced today - Wagamama. Probably not huge but there seems to be one every week or so!

I wonder if it ever crossed Power’s mind to actually run the club honestly.

What’s the fat cunt doing nowadays?

Gone to ground like the Jackal?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JanAirplaneMan on Friday, October 1, 2021, 12:03:57
Hi All, just so everyone knows the Standing v Power court case scheduled for this month in court has been suspended/moved into 2022 (May to Oct 2022), no reason given by the court. This does mean that any outcome from this of which the efl/fa might potentially take action on the club (hopefully not but we don't know if it will), is unlikely to be applied this season.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, October 1, 2021, 13:04:48
Hi All, just so everyone knows the Standing v Power court case scheduled for this month in court has been suspended/moved into 2022 (May to Oct 2022), no reason given by the court. This does mean that any outcome from this of which the efl/fa might potentially take action on the club (hopefully not but we don't know if it will), is unlikely to be applied this season.

No doubt, in true Swindon style, we will therefore get promoted this season then get clobbered with a season fucking up points deduction next season!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Friday, October 1, 2021, 14:01:35
Hi All, just so everyone knows the Standing v Power court case scheduled for this month in court has been suspended/moved into 2022 (May to Oct 2022), no reason given by the court. This does mean that any outcome from this of which the efl/fa might potentially take action on the club (hopefully not but we don't know if it will), is unlikely to be applied this season.

Jiggery pokery alert?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, October 1, 2021, 15:19:30
Whoop we have finally got the official headphone partner sorted, thought they would never get it over the line!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: RobertT on Friday, October 1, 2021, 16:30:42
Whoop we have finally got the official headphone partner sorted, thought they would never get it over the line!

Not sure what you'd been hearing to suggest otherwise.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JBZ on Friday, October 1, 2021, 16:54:12

Jiggery pokery alert?

I don't think that I have seen reference to this in the CPR


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, October 6, 2021, 15:24:13
Another Partner announced

‘Swindon Town Football Club are delighted to announce Exerfly as one of our Official Strength & Conditioning Partners.

Based in New Zealand, Exerfly's motto is 'Maximising Movement' and they are used by some of the best athletes and sports teams across the globe.

Built by athletes for athletes, Exerfly truly outperforms the rest and completely reimagines the future of strength training.

Exerfly has supplied the Football Club with top-of-the-range gym and Flywheel equipment, designed and built to help Town reach peak performance and reach the next level.

Ricky McFarlane, Swindon Town's Head of Sports Science, said: "Exerfly allows our players to be exposed to a new level of strength and conditioning / rehab equipment that will help us to separate ourselves from the rest of the crowd at this level of football."

We are absolutely delighted to have Exerfly on board for the 2021-22 season and beyond, and we can't wait to build on this exciting partnership over the coming weeks and months. ’


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, October 6, 2021, 15:26:28
Another Partner announced

‘Swindon Town Football Club are delighted to announce Exerfly as one of our Official Strength & Conditioning Partners.

Based in New Zealand, Exerfly's motto is 'Maximising Movement' and they are used by some of the best athletes and sports teams across the globe.

Built by athletes for athletes, Exerfly truly outperforms the rest and completely reimagines the future of strength training.

Exerfly has supplied the Football Club with top-of-the-range gym and Flywheel equipment, designed and built to help Town reach peak performance and reach the next level.

Ricky McFarlane, Swindon Town's Head of Sports Science, said: "Exerfly allows our players to be exposed to a new level of strength and conditioning / rehab equipment that will help us to separate ourselves from the rest of the crowd at this level of football."

We are absolutely delighted to have Exerfly on board for the 2021-22 season and beyond, and we can't wait to build on this exciting partnership over the coming weeks and months. ’

Sounds positive. Small gains and all that.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, October 6, 2021, 15:28:00
That’s some serious looking kit.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, October 6, 2021, 15:32:32
That’s some serious looking kit.

Coupled with (what I assume are) excellent knowledgeable staff to boot.

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/19537536.ben-garner-aiming-create-elite-environment-swindon-town/


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, October 6, 2021, 15:38:54
Well, there’s something going on at the club for sure.

Everything seems a positive. As with everything, it all has to be translated to success on the pitch.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: ronnie21 on Wednesday, October 6, 2021, 20:25:58
Coupled with (what I assume are) excellent knowledgeable staff to boot.

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/19537536.ben-garner-aiming-create-elite-environment-swindon-town/
According to the Adver we lost 1-0 to Salford last week - what did I miss?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Private Fraser on Wednesday, October 6, 2021, 20:43:46
According to the Adver we lost 1-0 to Salford last week - what did I miss?

That Adver article is dated 26 August.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, October 6, 2021, 21:15:48
According to the Adver we lost 1-0 to Salford last week - what did I miss?

Your appointment with Specsavers evidently.

'With an extremely short pre-season in the bank, Town appeared to stutter slightly against Salford City last Saturday before recovering to dig out a 1-0 victory, mostly through sheer determination and an extraordinary level of early fitness'

As per Private Fraser, its an aged article.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Boy About Town on Friday, October 8, 2021, 09:58:30
Can someone please copy and paste 'Clems column' from the Advert?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Boy About Town on Friday, October 8, 2021, 09:58:48
Can someone please copy and paste 'Clems column' from the Advert?

Has a pay wall...


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Friday, October 8, 2021, 10:06:06
https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/swindon_town_2014/19634425.clem-morfunis-column-distance-wont-slow-us/

SWINDON Town Football Club’s owner and chairman, Clem Morfuni, pens his first bi-weekly column for Adver Sport - starting with an update on his first few weeks back in Australia.

Hello everyone. It is great to be able to write to you on a regular basis about all things STFC, and it is a brilliant way for me to stay in touch while I am on the other side of the world.

I have been back home in Australia for a few weeks now and I am finally out of quarantine, which is great because hotel life is not all it is hyped up to be!

However, it has been a really productive few weeks in terms of club meetings and the progress we continue to make in getting our great football club back on track.

Progress continues to be made on a number of fronts, and I’ve had a great deal of positive meetings with all members of staff as everyone continues to work incredibly hard to get this club back on track.

Your football club is in really good hands with all members of the team incredibly passionate about the work they are doing, we are building something really special at The County Ground.

I really miss being in Swindon and being around the team and all of the fans, and I miss the buzz that comes with a match day - it isn’t the same watching on a screen in the early hours of the morning!

However, the one consolation has been the positive results that have been earned by Ben Garner and the team.

I can assure you that I was celebrating as hard as the rest of you in the wake of our superb win over Bristol Rovers on Saturday.

We have another big week coming up with our game against Forest Green Rovers on Sky on Saturday, and another positive result will put us in a great position with games now coming thick and fast.

This is a really positive time for the football club, I am in constant discussions with everyone at the club on a daily basis and I can assure you that we are heading in the right direction.

Please keep supporting us as you have been, I’ll be pushing us to break the 10,000 crowd target for the games against Rochdale on Saturday, October 16 and Bradford on Saturday, October 23, and I can’t wait to see you all properly again once I return around Christmas-January time.




Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Boy About Town on Friday, October 8, 2021, 10:09:55
https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/swindon_town_2014/19634425.clem-morfunis-column-distance-wont-slow-us/

SWINDON Town Football Club’s owner and chairman, Clem Morfuni, pens his first bi-weekly column for Adver Sport - starting with an update on his first few weeks back in Australia.

Hello everyone. It is great to be able to write to you on a regular basis about all things STFC, and it is a brilliant way for me to stay in touch while I am on the other side of the world.

I have been back home in Australia for a few weeks now and I am finally out of quarantine, which is great because hotel life is not all it is hyped up to be!

However, it has been a really productive few weeks in terms of club meetings and the progress we continue to make in getting our great football club back on track.

Progress continues to be made on a number of fronts, and I’ve had a great deal of positive meetings with all members of staff as everyone continues to work incredibly hard to get this club back on track.

Your football club is in really good hands with all members of the team incredibly passionate about the work they are doing, we are building something really special at The County Ground.

I really miss being in Swindon and being around the team and all of the fans, and I miss the buzz that comes with a match day - it isn’t the same watching on a screen in the early hours of the morning!

However, the one consolation has been the positive results that have been earned by Ben Garner and the team.

I can assure you that I was celebrating as hard as the rest of you in the wake of our superb win over Bristol Rovers on Saturday.

We have another big week coming up with our game against Forest Green Rovers on Sky on Saturday, and another positive result will put us in a great position with games now coming thick and fast.

This is a really positive time for the football club, I am in constant discussions with everyone at the club on a daily basis and I can assure you that we are heading in the right direction.

Please keep supporting us as you have been, I’ll be pushing us to break the 10,000 crowd target for the games against Rochdale on Saturday, October 16 and Bradford on Saturday, October 23, and I can’t wait to see you all properly again once I return around Christmas-January time.




Thanks  :wink:


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Friday, October 8, 2021, 10:12:37
Incidentally, my friend (genuinly!) that requested a refund on last seasons ST got an email yesterday regarding refunds, really re-presenting the question - are you sure you want a refund?

Wasn't sure if this was a sign of prudent control of liabilities, or whether more people requested a refund than predicted.

No judgements or anything from me - has the refund % been stated anywhere?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Friday, October 8, 2021, 10:24:31
I heard it was around 200 people


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, October 8, 2021, 10:24:48
Incidentally, my friend (genuinly!) that requested a refund on last seasons ST got an email yesterday regarding refunds, really re-presenting the question - are you sure you want a refund?

Wasn't sure if this was a sign of prudent control of liabilities, or whether more people requested a refund than predicted.

No judgements or anything from me - has the refund % been stated anywhere?

When were people able to request refunds, was it under Power? If so I imagine its a case of 'you wanted to get your money off the baddies, do you still want to get it back off us as we are the goodies' (not Tim Brooke-Taylor, Graeme Garden, and Bill Oddie)?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Posh Red on Friday, October 8, 2021, 10:30:53
When were people able to request refunds, was it under Power? If so I imagine its a case of 'you wanted to get your money off the baddies, do you still want to get it back off us as we are the goodies' (not Tim Brooke-Taylor, Graeme Garden, and Bill Oddie)?

No it was after the takeover, and they did say it may be January before they got to look at it.

Email from club
Thank you for query and we note your request for a refund or credit. 

We are asking everyone to reconsider their request for a refund or credit as the cost of providing such refunds and credits has a significant impact on the financial situation of the Club, which, as you know, is not in the best of places given the significant debts that the previous ownership left the Club in.

We are working through £4m of historic debts and whilst Clem has invested over £1m to help manage this position, he can't rebuild our Club all on his own and we need every supporter where they can to do their bit by waiving refunds and credits and attending again to support our Club and be part of the rebuild which will take the Club forwards and upwards.

We do hope you are able to reconsider your refund or credit request to help rebuild our Club and we will be working with the Supporters Trust and Supporters Club to recognise those fans who have waived refunds and credits which really helps ensure we continue to have our football club to support.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bogus Dave on Friday, October 8, 2021, 15:15:22
But gross, that


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Friday, October 8, 2021, 15:35:28
If there are holdouts for refunds then the club should just bite the bullet and stump up and not try to browbeat if people still insist.
I suspect that some of the affected will have had enough battling for refunds for cancelled journeys, holidays, flights etc.
Technically they are entitled to the refunds. In that respect STFC should be no different from any other business.
It's fortunate that 3,000 plus customers have chosen to exercise a degree of good will.

Progressing to the latter stages of the not so pointless now trophy or rolling up for a televised game short of first teamers might help to cover the potential cost.



Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Red Frog on Friday, October 8, 2021, 15:46:47
I actually think it's pretty insensitive of the new regime to push this point. It's not like STFC is the only place where people have experienced financial hardship in the last year, and ST holders got precious little for their money last season. Clem might not want to have to keep plugging the holes, but it would behove the new, sensitive, community club to show a bit more understanding for the difficulties people have experienced and are set to face over the coming winter, without trying to make them feel guilty about claiming their due.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Friday, October 8, 2021, 16:13:24
The application of credit & refunds, home & away, for the curtailed ppg season looks to have gone under the carpet. Old regime I know, but the questions were still asked and assurances made at the time.

Over £60 out of pocket on 3 away tickets.
Not a problem.
It's mainly been a case of unrequited love over the years anyway.
I bet the cunts from Ryanair or EasyJet or Booking.com would love to own a football club.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, October 8, 2021, 16:50:02
No it was after the takeover, and they did say it may be January before they got to look at it.

Email from club
Thank you for query and we note your request for a refund or credit. 

We are asking everyone to reconsider their request for a refund or credit as the cost of providing such refunds and credits has a significant impact on the financial situation of the Club, which, as you know, is not in the best of places given the significant debts that the previous ownership left the Club in.

We are working through £4m of historic debts and whilst Clem has invested over £1m to help manage this position, he can't rebuild our Club all on his own and we need every supporter where they can to do their bit by waiving refunds and credits and attending again to support our Club and be part of the rebuild which will take the Club forwards and upwards.

We do hope you are able to reconsider your refund or credit request to help rebuild our Club and we will be working with the Supporters Trust and Supporters Club to recognise those fans who have waived refunds and credits which really helps ensure we continue to have our football club to support.
Pretty poor that, some people genuinely need the money and trying to again guilt trip them into forfeiting the refund is a bit low. Not sure whether this means things are worst behind the scenes than we think or they are just chancing their arm.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Friday, October 8, 2021, 17:56:46
Quote from: Shrivvy Road
I heard it was around 200 people

wow, that's very low if so. I realise every penny counts for the club, but I was thinking it would be 1000+


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Friday, October 8, 2021, 18:00:01
also, isn't there a bit at the end of that email that says something like 'if you still want a refund we'll be in touch to work out a solution that suits you and the club'

that's the bit I frowned at, but I don't have the email so take it with a pinch of salt


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Friday, October 8, 2021, 18:03:46
Pretty poor that, some people genuinely need the money and trying to again guilt trip them into forfeiting the refund is a bit low. Not sure whether this means things are worst behind the scenes than we think or they are just chancing their arm.

The club was in a terrible state and worse than expected when they took over.
Debts far higher than planned for.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, October 8, 2021, 18:22:04
The club was in a terrible state and worse than expected when they took over.
Debts far higher than planned for.
Still a pretty poor, you don’t half heartedly offer a refund that is already a pretty bad deal for supporters and then try again to wriggle out of it when people dare to take up the offer.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bogus Dave on Friday, October 8, 2021, 18:38:25
Especially when the amount we’ll be talking in total will be minor in terms of the clubs overall debts


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Friday, October 8, 2021, 18:42:52
@duke ^^^^ I guess that's not a massive suprised, concerning though


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Friday, October 8, 2021, 18:52:19
Actually it was this that got me, as if a refund isn't a given:

"If after considering this message you still wish to request a refund or credit then we will work through each request to try and find a resolution that works for you and our Football Club"



Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Friday, October 8, 2021, 19:03:59
Especially when the amount we’ll be talking in total will be minor in terms of the clubs overall debts

Maybe the owners are not as rich as you would like to think they are.
Not saying this makes it right though.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Posh Red on Friday, October 8, 2021, 19:34:57
Especially when the amount we’ll be talking in total will be minor in terms of the clubs overall debts

Exactly this, if you had a full price ST it’s only about £120 per person after they have taken off the £230 for ifollow codes (whether you used them or not)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Nemo on Friday, October 8, 2021, 19:50:30
Club have been excellent on comms so far, but that feels like a misstep.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, October 9, 2021, 08:51:13
Maybe the owners are not as rich as you would like to think they are.
Not saying this makes it right though.
Indeed.
Club have been excellent on comms so far, but that feels like a misstep.
It certainly does.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:26:37
I assume they are hoping that some people that requested a refund, their financial situation may have improved so now happy to donate the refund back to stfc.

Although the letter should have been worded they are working on refunds but if you have changed your mind and are now happy to donate the refund then please do let us know.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Robinz on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 21:37:32
Surely this shows the challenging situation the club is in financially. Stability is the first priority and if there was for any reason a run on money being paid out could cause a major confidence slide.
I would suspect all creditors are being told a similar story.
Although every case will be different.. Please keep your faith where possible and support the club.
COYMRs

 


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Posh Red on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 21:42:53
Although every case will be different.. Please keep your faith where possible and support the club.
COYMRs

So you are telling others to support the club, presumably you have done so by donating £350 for a ST, despite not being able to get to a single game.


Title: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 21:47:57
well quite.

I didn't want cash back in the curtailed season.

I don't ask for list season's back.

I have bought 1 adult and 2 under 18s this season despite the price going up and despite 1xu18 working most Saturdays.

I'm lucky because I can at the moment. Not everyone is in my position and I don't think it's the slightest bit unreasonable to  refund them.
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if money is that tight or debts that much worse than expected let's hear it.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Posh Red on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 22:00:50
The thing that annoyed me was that there was no allowance whatsoever for there being multiple season tickets in the same house.

We both had to pay full price but obviously only used one ifollow code to watch a game, yet both were only offered a refund less £230 for codes.

Even before the boycott was suggested I had decided not to renew our ST’s this season, however with the takeover we decided to give it another go & invested our £700, despite not being able to make midweek home games.

So the “do you really want a third of what you paid back” did grate a little I have to say.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: theakston2k on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 22:16:22
The thing that annoyed me was that there was no allowance whatsoever for there being multiple season tickets in the same house.

We both had to pay full price but obviously only used one ifollow code to watch a game, yet both were only offered a refund less £230 for codes.

Even before the boycott was suggested I had decided not to renew our ST’s this season, however with the takeover we decided to give it another go & invested our £700, despite not being able to make midweek home games.

So the “do you really want a third of what you paid back” did grate a little I have to say.
To be honest I think this is one of the problems with having a former Trust board member as the Chief Exec. He‘ll be making the assumption that everyone prioritises the club just like he has and does but a lot of fans have other priorities and commitments in their life. The club needs to get back to a customer based relationship with fans as soon as possible IMO as too much is reliant on the good will of supporters currently and normal businesses wouldn’t get away with it.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Robinz on Thursday, October 14, 2021, 02:02:33
Posh... I can see your frustrations from here. Who am I to judge Clearly I'm not.

To answer your question of me. Yes, I subscribe and watch by IFollow on a regular basis and it does give me lots of pleasure especially this season so far and hopefully the club benefits from my support as well.

From what I have seen from afar I don't see any evidence that Rob Angus making any special assumptions to the club over creditors including supporters. I doubt if he could if he wanted too.

As suggested, I think the club is in a very challenging financial situation at present and as DOB mentioned possibly the debts are lots higher than estimated and the new principle / owner is not as wealthy as we all had hoped. That said, Mr, Vacuum cleaned Dyson didn't rush in to buy the club did he ?.

Please have faith than the club is moving forward in the right direction and all supporters who are owed money and have shown extra ordinary faith will get rewards soon.

For the record, today I watched Swindon v West Ham from 1967 (You tube) which I went to with my Dad as a nine year old. What memories and the start of a magic period where Dreams can and did come true. !!! Yes, I had tears in my eyes when Willie Penman scored  :)

F#ck how great would it be to see glory days back on the County Ground once again.  :bye:         



Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Robinz on Thursday, October 14, 2021, 02:32:21
Batch.. You mentioned "If money is that tight or debts that much worse than expected let's hear it."

Please be careful what you are asking for because one day you might be told !!!

Just consider the possibility that the Club could technically be Insolvent and can't pay its dubious creditors including spurious loans and un secured ST refunds.

Perhaps Clem Morfuni has needed to trade as, hate to say it a delinquent director to save the club. If he has blood good luck to him as he would have a lot bigger balls than I have !!!

If the whole wide world knew of these possibilities do you think Swindon would have beaten Bristol R or FGR at the weekend. I don't think so
   


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, October 14, 2021, 13:26:44
Looks like Clem is arranging a tour Down Under. That’s a long way to go in a minibus!

‘There are small rumours that Swindon Town owner, Clem Morfuni, who is Australian, is willing to organise an end-of-season tour of Swindon Town in Australia. Tours would be Sydney, Melbourne and Perth if possible. The man is pushing for some Aussie links with Swindon Town. ‘


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, October 14, 2021, 13:31:58
Looks like Clem is arranging a tour Down Under. That’s a long way to go in a minibus!

‘There are small rumours that Swindon Town owner, Clem Morfuni, who is Australian, is willing to organise an end-of-season tour of Swindon Town in Australia. Tours would be Sydney, Melbourne and Perth if possible. The man is pushing for some Aussie links with Swindon Town. ‘
Fair play to him, get the Swindon Town name out and about in Oz and make some decent footballing connections along the way.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, October 15, 2021, 09:32:33
Imagine that a pre season down under in the middle of their winter whilst it's summer time here :pint:


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Friday, October 15, 2021, 10:10:12
Imagine that a pre season down under in the middle of their winter whilst it's summer time here :pint:

Only likely to be for three weeks at the most.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Friday, October 15, 2021, 12:10:15
Fair play to him, get the Swindon Town name out and about in Oz and make some decent footballing connections along the way.

I think you mean Fair Dinkum  :)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, October 15, 2021, 12:11:16
I think you mean Fair Dinkum  :)
The last person I actually heard say "fair dinkum" was Rolf Harris! so lets not go there!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Tuesday, November 2, 2021, 16:52:33
Evening all,
Yep I know wrong thread but I couldn't find one more suitable.
I read on the Adver the other day about a 3rd strip but you need to have an Adver account to read it. Can anyone shed any light and do we know what the colour scheme will be?
I understand it will probably be on here somewhere but I don't have the time to trawl for it.
Thanks.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, November 2, 2021, 17:17:49
Evening all,
Yep I know wrong thread but I couldn't find one more suitable.
I read on the Adver the other day about a 3rd strip but you need to have an Adver account to read it. Can anyone shed any light and do we know what the colour scheme will be?
I understand it will probably be on here somewhere but I don't have the time to trawl for it.
Thanks.

Cant help with the Adver, but s'posed to be coming out this month wern't it?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, November 2, 2021, 17:21:34
Cant help with the Adver, but s'posed to be coming out this month wern't it?

Yeah - and will be on sale in time for christmas. No news on colours yet.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Private Fraser on Tuesday, November 2, 2021, 17:26:27
Evening all,
Yep I know wrong thread but I couldn't find one more suitable.
I read on the Adver the other day about a 3rd strip but you need to have an Adver account to read it. Can anyone shed any light and do we know what the colour scheme will be?
I understand it will probably be on here somewhere but I don't have the time to trawl for it.
Thanks.

I could be way off but, when I was in the shop buying tickets this morning, I noticed there was a mannequin wearing a version of the shirt I hadn’t seen before. It was the same basic design as the red one but was a kind of plain ‘off-white’/grey with shadow patterns in it. The shirt looked nice but it was matched on the mannequin with the green shorts and yellow socks, so looked a bit odd.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Tuesday, November 2, 2021, 18:51:34
I could be way off but, when I was in the shop buying tickets this morning, I noticed there was a mannequin wearing a version of the shirt I hadn’t seen before. It was the same basic design as the red one but was a kind of plain ‘off-white’/grey with shadow patterns in it. The shirt looked nice but it was matched on the mannequin with the green shorts and yellow socks, so looked a bit odd.

I like the sound of a white with shadow effect not so sure with the yellow and green shorts and socks combo.

Thanks guys  👍


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, November 10, 2021, 20:47:28
Derby:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2021/11/10/derby-county-ready-accept-another-points-deduction-confirming/

Quote
after weeks of talks with the football league, derby are close to agreeing another deduction of 9 points, plus a further suspended three points, for historical financial breaches under former owner mel morris.

so no leniency from the EFL there then. One hopes their situation is far removed from ours
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in any case, has there been an update on the Zav(I)er Austin appointment?

I could guess his past has made getting approval from the fit and proper person test tricky.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, November 10, 2021, 20:49:08
Derby:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2021/11/10/derby-county-ready-accept-another-points-deduction-confirming/

so no leniency from the EFL there then. One hopes their situation is far removed from ours
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in any case, has there been an update on the Zav(I)er Austin appointment?

I could guess his past has made getting approval from the fit and proper person test tricky.

From what I gather - he passed the fit and proper and is now around the club quite often.
Rob Angus has mentioned him a few times.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, November 23, 2021, 12:38:46
Anyone now what the club’s new partner, Recast, is actually offering?

Says live games and other ‘content’. How does that get around iFollow etc. Apparently Rangers and QPR also partnering with them.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, November 23, 2021, 12:55:01
Anyone now what the club’s new partner, Recast, is actually offering?

Says live games and other ‘content’. How does that get around iFollow etc. Apparently Rangers and QPR also partnering with them.

Good question, wondered the same myself.

is every club under ifollow though? Some have their own channel. Might be similar to this.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 23, 2021, 13:00:40
Anyone now what the club’s new partner, Recast, is actually offering?

Says live games and other ‘content’. How does that get around iFollow etc. Apparently Rangers and QPR also partnering with them.

https://insidersport.com/2021/07/01/qpr-teams-with-recast-for-match-streaming/

A bit about it there.

Seems to be for highlights and friendlies and the ladies teams not the 1st team games.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, November 23, 2021, 14:40:35
Maybe they’ve an eye out for a market many thousands of miles away?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 23, 2021, 14:46:23
Maybe they’ve an eye out for a market many thousands of miles away?
Possibly, would be nice for the club to make a statement about what this tie up involves and how we as a club and fans benefit from it.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Munichred on Thursday, November 25, 2021, 12:04:20
https://insidersport.com/2021/07/01/qpr-teams-with-recast-for-match-streaming/

A bit about it there.

Seems to be for highlights and friendlies and the ladies teams not the 1st team games.

From QPR:

Across the 2021/2022 season Recast will become the home of QPR’s match highlights with a view to host them exclusively on the platform by the end of the year.

Match highlights and games from QPR Women and B Team fixtures will also be shown on Recast along with premium and exclusive behind the scenes content and interviews with players and club staff.

“Due to events over the last twelve months, we have embarked on a complete audit of our digital assets,” said QPR’s Commercial Director, Euan Inglis. “As our supporters will be aware we are doing some really exciting stuff around blockchain, NFTs and tokenisation on our new app. We have been engaged with Recast over the last few months and have been very impressed with the opportunities the platform is going to provide for the club and our supporters.

“Recast will complement our existing channels initially, but our plan is to utilise Recast’s platform more down the line as our supporters become more au fait with the platform. The club will be working with the excellent team at Recast to produce innovative and creative content that will be exclusively available on Recast’s platform.”



"Premium and exclusive... content" sounds like for extra payment to me. 

Not sure how the use of "...blockchain, NTFs ?? and tokenisation..." will work?

The last paragraph seems to point to  initially working alongside Ifollow but down the line replacing it. Or am I misreading that?



Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Thursday, November 25, 2021, 13:01:23
This is what the Banzai app might have evolved into.
Ahead of its time? Probably not.  :)

Not sure if the app made it into the Washbags hall of shame before they packed it in.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Thursday, November 25, 2021, 13:02:41
I don't get who will pay extra for this unless they switch from ifollow for games.  let's hope not


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, November 25, 2021, 13:07:09
I don't get who will pay extra for this unless they switch from ifollow for games.  let's hope not
Not sure who will pay extra TBH and I am pretty sure iFollow have a contract until the end of this season for matchdays so if it does happen then it will more likely start next season for matchday coverage.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Thursday, November 25, 2021, 13:20:11
yeah, that will be a sad day ;)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, November 25, 2021, 13:21:13
yeah, that will be a sad day ;)
You arent wrong!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, November 25, 2021, 16:23:13
Its Black Friday tomorrow innit, does that mean the 3rd shirt comes out tomorrow as well?

I note the club have announced the rear sponsor for said shirt this afternoon, coincidence?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, November 25, 2021, 16:30:17
Its Black Friday tomorrow innit, does that mean the 3rd shirt comes out tomorrow as well?

I note the club have announced the rear sponsor for said shirt this afternoon, coincidence?

I think you might be onto something Mr Holmes! (I've been sent a picture of the third shirt FWIW)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Boy About Town on Thursday, November 25, 2021, 16:38:08
I think you might be onto something Mr Holmes! (I've been sent a picture of the third shirt FWIW)

Please do send me in a DM BO?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, November 25, 2021, 16:45:56
I think you might be onto something Mr Holmes! (I've been sent a picture of the third shirt FWIW)

Bloody ITK'ers... Seen it myself, not sure how people are going to react to blue and white quarters....


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Crozzer on Thursday, November 25, 2021, 16:50:21
Brilliant, a ruse to confuse Brett Pitman.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Thursday, November 25, 2021, 17:21:43
Some people on social media appear to be having a breakdown that it has not been 'announced' yet. My word, it can be entertaining to read sometimes


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Thursday, November 25, 2021, 18:11:13
Anyone with a picture of the 3rd kit wish to share the love?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Boy About Town on Thursday, November 25, 2021, 18:39:06
Share!!!!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Thursday, November 25, 2021, 18:39:47
Share!!!!

Yes share


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Friday, November 26, 2021, 08:45:00
It's plain grey with dark lettering

EDIT:


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Nemo on Friday, November 26, 2021, 09:09:49
Surprised the sponsor agreed to that.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: tans on Friday, November 26, 2021, 09:21:45
That doesnt look great


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, November 26, 2021, 09:28:10
I can understand why, but the badge and the sponsor for me look crap being so dark. Perhaps it'll grow on me but looks a bit like a bin bag.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, November 26, 2021, 09:28:55
Looks a little bland to me


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Tails on Friday, November 26, 2021, 09:30:23
Not sure what some of you were expecting from a blackout kit (unless you've never seen one before).

I love them and this looks class.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, November 26, 2021, 09:40:42
Fair point and I'll admit I didn't 100% understand the reason behind them.

https://footballshirtcollective.com/2021/03/09/the-story-behind-the-black-out-collection/


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, November 26, 2021, 09:46:34
So, is the choice down to some kind of political statement?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, November 26, 2021, 09:47:40
Surprised the sponsor agreed to that.

I can understand why, but the badge and the sponsor for me look crap being so dark. Perhaps it'll grow on me but looks a bit like a bin bag.

I suspect it may look better in the light, that photo looks like its been taken in an airing cupboard.

Quite like it.

Not sure what some of you were expecting from a blackout kit (unless you've never seen one before).

Had it been said previously it was going to be a black out kit, must have missed that?

Fair point and I'll admit I didn't 100% understand the reason behind them.

https://footballshirtcollective.com/2021/03/09/the-story-behind-the-black-out-collection/

Oh god, the anti wokists will be wanking themselves into a lather, I hope to god the players don't take the knee wearing it, shit will be lost and pearls clutched!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, November 26, 2021, 09:50:26
Now now😀


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, November 26, 2021, 09:50:56
Fair point and I'll admit I didn't 100% understand the reason behind them.

https://footballshirtcollective.com/2021/03/09/the-story-behind-the-black-out-collection/

I also hadn't realised the significance either. Once others do this is really going to split the fanbase isn't it? Going to be woke this and snowflake that and a load of pearl clutching. Hope I am wrong.

Let's wait and see for the official announcement from the club before going too wild. I think some of our Twitter fans literally have no patience left, literally bombarding the club to announce the third shirt!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JBZ on Friday, November 26, 2021, 10:16:39
Great work but this won't go down well with elderly supporters and those from rural areas.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Berniman on Friday, November 26, 2021, 10:40:45
Can't we just enjoy it for what it is?  A new third kit, leave all the bullshit to one side.  If you like it, buy it.  If you don't, don't.

I am not sure why everything has to be so black (pun intended) or white these days, it gets very tiresome - and twitter is the cesspit for this stuff..


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, November 26, 2021, 10:44:11
Can't we just enjoy it for what it is?  A new third kit, leave all the bullshit to one side.  If you like it, buy it.  If you don't, don't.

I am not sure why everything has to be so black (pun intended) or white these days, it gets very tiresome - and twitter is the cesspit for this stuff..
This 100%


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JBZ on Friday, November 26, 2021, 10:47:56
Can't we just enjoy it for what it is?  A new third kit, leave all the bullshit to one side.  If you like it, buy it.  If you don't, don't.

I am not sure why everything has to be so black (pun intended) or white these days, it gets very tiresome - and twitter is the cesspit for this stuff..

Great sentiments but, of course, that's life these days


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Friday, November 26, 2021, 10:59:19
I also hadn't realised the significance either. Once others do this is really going to split the fanbase isn't it? Going to be woke this and snowflake that and a load of pearl clutching. Hope I am wrong.

Let's wait and see for the official announcement from the club before going too wild. I think some of our Twitter fans literally have no patience left, literally bombarding the club to announce the third shirt!
Getting their practice in for the January transfer window where they’ll be bombarding every post!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, November 26, 2021, 11:05:42
Getting their practice in for the January transfer window where they’ll be bombarding every post!

'Announce Norwood'


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: tans on Friday, November 26, 2021, 11:09:04
Getting their practice in for the January transfer window where they’ll be bombarding every post!

:D


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Red Frog on Friday, November 26, 2021, 11:25:02
Great work but this won't go down well with elderly supporters and those from rural areas.

I'm from a rural area, and borderline elderly. And your point is...?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, November 26, 2021, 11:31:17
Can't we just enjoy it for what it is?  A new third kit, leave all the bullshit to one side.  If you like it, buy it.  If you don't, don't.


It'll never catch on!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, November 26, 2021, 11:32:37
I'm from a rural area, and borderline elderly. And your point is...?
The ironic thing is so is JBZ going by his posts of being at Uni in the early 90s and living in deepest Somerset.

I am in the same boat as you too and I have no compulsion to moan about whats happening either, I think many people are being tarred by the same brush by someone, ironically in a group that he himself belongs to.

That is unless he himself posted it ironically as he is himself upset by this?  :hmmm:


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Friday, November 26, 2021, 11:47:26
60 isn't old these days  :)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, November 26, 2021, 11:51:02
60 isn't old these days  :)
TBH anything around 50 is considered elderly these days it seems.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Friday, November 26, 2021, 12:01:49
 :(


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, November 26, 2021, 12:07:53
The ironic thing is so is JBZ going by his posts of being at Uni in the early 90s and living in deepest Somerset.

I am in the same boat as you too and I have no compulsion to moan about whats happening either, I think many people are being tarred by the same brush by someone, ironically in a group that he himself belongs to.

That is unless he himself posted it ironically as he is himself upset by this?  :hmmm:

I was at Uni in the early 90's and am I fuck borderline elderly! Plus I was born and remain a rural yokel, albeit its a yakker round here!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, November 26, 2021, 12:27:51
I was at Uni in the early 90's and am I fuck borderline elderly! Plus I was born and remain a rural yokel, albeit its a yakker round here!

Se statement above :)

TBH anything around 50 is considered elderly these days it seems.

That is if you listen to social media comments.... :)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Berniman on Friday, November 26, 2021, 12:38:24
Great sentiments but, of course, that's life these days

It is, but you have a choice as to whether you join in with the bullshit or not, unless it is too late and you have become a slave to social media and unable to make your own decisions anymore..


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, November 26, 2021, 16:57:20
https://www.stfcdirect.com/2122-kit-training-wear/2122-kit/third-kit/2787_2122-team-flash-jersey.html


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JBZ on Friday, November 26, 2021, 17:08:24
The ironic thing is so is JBZ going by his posts of being at Uni in the early 90s and living in deepest Somerset.

I am in the same boat as you too and I have no compulsion to moan about whats happening either, I think many people are being tarred by the same brush by someone, ironically in a group that he himself belongs to.

That is unless he himself posted it ironically as he is himself upset by this?  :hmmm:

Nice work.  I confess, I don't regarding being in your 40s as elderly but I guess it's all relative.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, November 26, 2021, 17:16:24
https://www.stfcdirect.com/2122-kit-training-wear/2122-kit/third-kit/2787_2122-team-flash-jersey.html
Me no likee


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: DiV on Friday, November 26, 2021, 17:39:29
Not a fan of football shirts that don’t really look like football shirts…but…that’s just me…


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: singingiiiffy on Friday, November 26, 2021, 17:53:47
i dont really understand it and don't really like the look of it, seems like an american thing from that previous link. if it picks up national coverage then its a good thing i suppose. are we the only english team to do this?

if we win in it then all good but not something i would buy. in previous years though the 3rd kits have been quite tempting


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, November 26, 2021, 18:15:23
What age are we calling middle aged 40,45🤔


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Saxondale on Friday, November 26, 2021, 18:18:23
Im living to 110, so Ive got another 5 years until my midlife.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, November 26, 2021, 18:19:29
 :clap: :clap:


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Friday, November 26, 2021, 18:29:12
I'm aiming for 114.
Drinking lots of beer & vodka will get me there.
Went to Poly / Uni in the mid 80's so must be positively ancient by now.

Don't mind the new shirt.
Still in help the club out if possible mode so will make the budget stretch to another 45 sheets if possible.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JBZ on Friday, November 26, 2021, 18:34:19
Just placed an order.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Friday, November 26, 2021, 19:03:39
Not for me but I think this marketing is the way forward.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JoeMezz on Friday, November 26, 2021, 20:12:39
Opinion splitter but I love it. However, for the main contention points to be the new kit vs other issues we’ve had in the past, shows how far we’ve come in 6 months!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, November 27, 2021, 06:45:30
The club’s reasoning behind the choice of the kit

‘Town say the PUMA-manufactured kit - and the social media hashtag #OutOfTheDarkness - was designed to represent the club’s journey since being taken over by new owner Clem Morfuni, and as a nod to the bright future ahead.’

Could see it premiere at Orient, apparently.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Saturday, November 27, 2021, 09:34:22
https://www.stfcdirect.com/2122-kit-training-wear/2122-kit/third-kit/2787_2122-team-flash-jersey.html

Saw it in the club shop on Tuesday, looks better in the flesh.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, November 27, 2021, 10:22:42
Saw it in the club shop on Tuesday, looks better in the flesh.
TBF it couldn't look a lot worse IMO.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, November 29, 2021, 19:13:50
Is it Wednesday for all parties to respond to the FA charges?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, November 29, 2021, 19:36:43
I'm 6'3 with a bit of a gut, size suggestions from the real world??

Sent from my SM-A125F


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: reeves4england on Monday, November 29, 2021, 20:24:17
I'm 6'3 with a bit of a gut, size suggestions from the real world??

Sent from my SM-A125F
I'm normally on the borderline of small and medium clothing. Tried a small home kit on in the club shop and thought I was going to have to rip my way out of it. Ordered a large!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Cheltred on Monday, November 29, 2021, 20:49:00
Is it Wednesday for all parties to respond to the FA charges?
Yes


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Boy About Town on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 09:06:03
I'm 6'3 with a bit of a gut, size suggestions from the real world??

Sent from my SM-A125F

XXL


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: tans on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 09:22:55
Lee Power looking to take over a club in Bulgaria


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 09:27:10
Lee Power looking to take over a club in Bulgaria

Good luck to him, doesn’t deserve some of the flack he gets. Done a good job here.
I actually sent him a letter to thank him not so long ago.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: tans on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 09:30:25
:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

I sent him an email too thanking him for his hard work


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 09:34:15
Evading his inevitable FA ban here. He’s obviously up to no good. It’s never been about the football. It’s always been about using a football club for ‘other’ purposes.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: tans on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 09:35:23
Imagine the scenes if he fucked up a mafia owned club


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 09:42:13
Evading his inevitable FA ban here. He’s obviously up to no good. It’s never been about the football. It’s always been about using a football club for ‘other’ purposes.

Wasn't he looking at another club abroad previously? In Montenegro if I recall correctly.

I see he managed to leave Waterford and they are now in the league below! Everything he touches turns to Merde!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 09:43:39
Lee Power looking to take over a club in Bulgaria

How is Shaun Hodgetts' Bulgarian?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 09:44:37
.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VC1_tdnZq1A


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 10:01:18
Quote from: tans
Lee Power looking to take over a club in Bulgaria

https://twitter.com/shumanskoo/status/1465605479741153282?t=9YOAArbK-liQIL7-LmhanQ&s=19

Former Swindon Town chairman Lee Power is reportedly in advanced talks with Bulgarian top-flight club Pirin Blagoevgrad to acquire the club, reveals newspaper Tema Sport. Pirin are currently coached by ex-Northern Ireland international Warren Feeney. There might be a deal in Jan https://t.co/XLTc2JNfwl

also wants opinions

https://twitter.com/shumanskoo/status/1465607189373067272?t=2IOwD9SzD1QKY6pIS45rmQ&s=19


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 10:55:06
I see Berbatov came through their yoofs.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 12:46:20
Bulgarians don't fuck about. His security he had hear kept him from anyone chinning him but over there it might not be enough.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 13:09:21
Our glorious former manager might be refreshed and up for a new challenge as and when the takeover goes through.

I'm sure that the challenges of a Cyrillic team sheet 15 mins before kick off would not present a major hurdle for the great man to overcome.
Just learn a few essential Bulgarian swear words, retain a vague recollection of who the players are, find a cheap gaff on the Black Sea coast and that's it.

Plovdiv International Airport is not far away so Audrey would be able to make it to a few home games as well.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 13:43:16
The visions of John Sheridanov shouting inane shite on the sideline to a group of Bulgarians is somewhat amusing - but not for them


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 13:58:07
He can Popov for all I care.

On a more serious note, if he is, indeed, buying a club there, then I doubt he gives 2 fucks about the impending FA charge and won’t have responded or produced any documentation as required..

If Standing and Barry also have no interest in remaining the game it could well be a very short hearing.

Without Power, I presume Clem et al will just, correctly, say they knew absolutely nothing about any supposed shenanigans.

I doubt the Bulgarian FA have a fit and proper person test.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 16:31:17
Btw, it surely can’t be a coincidence that news of this has broken the day before the FA charges are heard.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 16:33:07
Btw, it surely can’t be a coincidence that news of this has broken the day before the FA charges are heard.

Are they being heard, isn't it just that the response to the charges had to be with the FA/FL by tomorrow?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 16:38:24
I’m presuming there will be little, if any, response from Power. Why would he bother. If he’s going to buy a club in Bulgaria to continue his nefarious ownership there’s no benefit in complying with the FA.

What can they do? He already knows he’ll be banned so why bother with the hassle?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 16:42:37
I’m presuming there will be little, if any, response from Power. Why would he bother. If he’s going to buy a club in Bulgaria to continue his nefarious ownership there’s no benefit in complying with the FA.

What can they do? He already knows he’ll be banned so why bother with the hassle?
Could face a fine


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 16:44:04
Maybe. But who can enforce that if he has no interest in being involved in English football again.



Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 18:31:00
No doubt the "Fee to pay" card will plop through the FA HQ letterbox  tomorrow.
They'll have to pay up for the back of a fag packet scribbled notes in the C7 envelope.
The ringing endorsement from Gianni Infantino should help to seal the deal.

Lee Power is incapable of recognizing that he has done anything wrong.
Always a case of well it wasn't toooo bad wherever he turns up next.
 
Must remember to not roll up at the sorting office if any "Fee to pay" cards end up on my doormat.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 23:03:05
He can Popov for all I care.

On a more serious note, if he is, indeed, buying a club there, then I doubt he gives 2 fucks about the impending FA charge and won’t have responded or produced any documentation as required..

If Standing and Barry also have no interest in remaining the game it could well be a very short hearing.

Without Power, I presume Clem et al will just, correctly, say they knew absolutely nothing about any supposed shenanigans.

I doubt the Bulgarian FA have a fit and proper person test.

I doubt the Bulgarian FA have a fit and proper person test.

They are I understand rather picky over the type of envelopes used for ‘wage packets’, legitimate or otherwise.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Thursday, December 2, 2021, 11:16:06


I doubt the Bulgarian FA have a fit and proper person test.

Bit like us then, evidently.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: tans on Saturday, December 4, 2021, 21:12:14
Able issue a winding up order.

Good luck with that one


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, December 4, 2021, 21:13:46
I suspect they are on the wind up.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Saturday, December 4, 2021, 21:16:08
How do you spot those snippets of information


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: tans on Saturday, December 4, 2021, 21:22:16
I thought Able paid Lee Power a deposit anyway. Therefore he should be liable?

Bit of luck Clem told them to fuck themselves anyway


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JBZ on Saturday, December 4, 2021, 21:24:18
Technically, they have presented a winding up petition. The court will decide whether to make an order in due course.  Presumably, the petitioning creditor has carefully considered this course of action before taking it.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: STFC_Manc on Saturday, December 4, 2021, 21:25:38

It would have been to the club, then taken out of the club you would expect.
I thought Able paid Lee Power a deposit anyway. Therefore he should be liable?

Bit of luck Clem told them to fuck themselves anyway


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Quagmire on Saturday, December 4, 2021, 21:25:54
Ha, as if it wasn’t already clear as day Power was behind Able, this happens.

The bloke has some nerve, you have to give him that.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Saturday, December 4, 2021, 23:36:12
Quote from: tans
Able issue a winding up order.

Good luck with that one

wtf!!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Sunday, December 5, 2021, 00:18:16
I gather a certain person with the surname "Power" has likely been on the icing sugar and came up with the confidence to submit this petition?!

That dude gets more like Tony Tucker every day!  :pint:

Serious questions here:
How in the hell can a "company" submit a petition, still expect to remain mostly anonymous (especially considering their supposed involvement), and be purely represented by a solicitor?

Is it perfectly legal for them to do as such?
And if so, does it actually help, hinder, impact any gravitas for genuine claims if they submit it anonymously (personnel wise)?
Surely someone from that company has to make themselves known?

Of course, it's likely we all know who "ABLE" is anyway. It'd look incredibly stupid if "he" rolled up to the courtroom/Teams meeting but we all know these days people don't even need to show their face.

Hopefully this falls flat on it's face and the court will see right through this  ::)
*crosses all sets of six fingers and toes*


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, December 5, 2021, 07:15:06
Here it is



Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Sunday, December 5, 2021, 08:11:06
There’s another advisory board meeting imminent (if not already held) so I expect we’ll find out more then at least.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Crackity Jones on Sunday, December 5, 2021, 08:31:27
The minutes from the last advisory board stated that Able were threatening a petition and that the legal team were all over it. I can't recall or find the figure that Able supposedly put into the club - c.100k springs to mind.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JBZ on Sunday, December 5, 2021, 09:08:50
Winders shouldn't be used for disputed sums.  If it is disputed, I wonder why the debtor didn't apply for an injunction to restrain presentation of a petition.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Crackity Jones on Sunday, December 5, 2021, 09:16:20
Winders shouldn't be used for disputed sums.  If it is disputed, I wonder why the debtor didn't apply for an injunction to restrain presentation of a petition.
HMRC regularly do this for non-payment don't they?


Title: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Sunday, December 5, 2021, 09:31:20
2.1 EP provided Legal update and noted he would need to leave the meeting after his update due to work commitments. EP provided an update on current legal issues that the Club is dealing
with. Starting with a legal claim from Able for an alleged loan to the Club. There are questions on how the loan was made and who made it and their links with the previous ownership. EP is
working to defend the claim as best possible for the Club

(October)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Sunday, December 5, 2021, 09:35:16
I’m wondering if we can counter sue for anything?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Sunday, December 5, 2021, 09:40:40
November minutes: Able
– a petition has been threatened but EP has challenged and appointed a QC to help STFC fight the claims for the debts


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JBZ on Sunday, December 5, 2021, 09:47:48
If the debtor can show that the 'debt' is disputed on grounds that appear substantial, the petition should be dismissed.

If the debt is disputed, it should be pursued as a county court/high court claim, depending on the financial value.



Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JBZ on Sunday, December 5, 2021, 09:48:56
HMRC regularly do this for non-payment don't they?

Not much of a dispute where unpaid tax is concerned


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Crackity Jones on Sunday, December 5, 2021, 10:01:44
Not much of a dispute where unpaid tax is concerned
so by going down this route, are able saying there is no dispute?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Sunday, December 5, 2021, 10:03:33
Was it ever established who was or is behind Able?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Sunday, December 5, 2021, 10:18:18
Quote from: Legends-Lounge
Was it ever established who was or is behind Able?

not really

a couple of names US side and a bucket load of suspicion


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Sunday, December 5, 2021, 10:37:30
Was it ever established who was or is behind Able?

Lee Power


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, December 5, 2021, 10:47:41
Did we ever find out the origin of that letter that seemed to have started the collapse of Power’s house of cards?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Sunday, December 5, 2021, 11:01:15
Lee Power

You nearly had me choke on my Micky D’s yesterday you sod. 😁 I was thinking more like the American bods fronting Able rather than than Pee Lower.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JBZ on Sunday, December 5, 2021, 13:10:21
so by going down this route, are able saying there is no dispute?

The petitioning creditor will say that it is a 'debt' and that that it isn't/cannot be disputed.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Monday, December 6, 2021, 10:43:13
You nearly had me choke on my Micky D’s yesterday you sod. 😁 I was thinking more like the American bods fronting Able rather than than Pee Lower.
Still Lee Power. If i remember rightly Lee Power also said in court that it was a non-refundable deposit so that was a bit silly of him


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Monday, December 6, 2021, 10:52:06
The biggest compliment i can give Clem and the new regime is that despite another winding-up order for the first time in a very long time we as fans don't seem to care and are not worried


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, December 6, 2021, 11:10:53
I think an update from the club on both this and the FA/FL charge would at least be useful to stop too many Hares setting off.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Monday, December 6, 2021, 11:51:45
I think an update from the club on both this and the FA/FL charge would at least be useful to stop too many Hares setting off.
There will be one in the next few days for sure as i believe the next meeting is this week


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Private Fraser on Tuesday, December 7, 2021, 12:38:18
Posted on Twitter by Alex Pollock from the Trust a short while ago:

"We've just concluded December's Advisory Board Meeting at #STFC - it's great to see the ongoing progress and to have an open dialogue with the club.

Fans: keep an eye out for the minutes and notes on the club's website soon."


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bogus Dave on Monday, December 13, 2021, 20:19:08
Clubs bank account frozen due to the winding up order. Seems maybe a bit more substantial than first assumed?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Monday, December 13, 2021, 20:20:58
Clubs bank account frozen due to the winding up order. Seems maybe a bit more substantial than first assumed?
Is that 'was frozen' or 'has now been' frozen?



Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Monday, December 13, 2021, 20:22:41
Quote from: Bogus Dave
Clubs bank account frozen due to the winding up order. Seems maybe a bit more substantial than first assumed?

I'm sure JBZ will be along to give his one line opinion shortly


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JBZ on Monday, December 13, 2021, 20:23:48
No order will have been made yet.  


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JBZ on Monday, December 13, 2021, 20:24:26
I'm sure JBZ will be along to give his one line opinion shortly

Happy to help


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Monday, December 13, 2021, 20:25:08
Just about a line😀


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Monday, December 13, 2021, 20:25:25
:)

where did you get that info from Dave?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JBZ on Monday, December 13, 2021, 20:28:38
Presentation/advertisement of the petition usually results in accounts being frozen.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: kirky69 on Monday, December 13, 2021, 21:18:49
Presentation/advertisement of the petition usually results in accounts being frozen.

100% correct. Was in Banking for 30+ years, dealt with a few in my time and accounts always frozen until and if petition is dismissed. Presumably lawyers are arguing the toss now and hopefully resolved in our favour. Maybe a settlement will be needed to get rid asap, as clearly very inconvenient not being able (excuse the pun) to access substantial credit monies -  as indicated in meeting notes.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Monday, December 13, 2021, 21:21:36
Can someone please post a link so I can fill in the gaps in what you've all obviously already read!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bogus Dave on Monday, December 13, 2021, 21:47:53
Sorry, petition. I misspoke

But about the frozen accounts was in the athletic, although if it’s BAU process then I guess all is as it was


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Boeta on Monday, December 13, 2021, 21:52:17
On The Athletic

Swindon bank account frozen

Swindon Town are facing a winding-up petition at the High Court of Justice on January 12, five days after the League Two side host Manchester City in the third round of the FA Cup, reports Matt Slater.

That fixture, which will be televised by ITV, should raise some much-needed funds for a club that was relegated last season, millions of pounds in debt and at the centre of a bitter ownership dispute.

That row was resolved in July, when Australian businessman Clem Morfuni won the right to buy the club, replacing controversial former owner Lee Power. Working closely with the supporters’ trust, Morfuni quickly stabilised Swindon, enabling them to sign players, hire staff and pay off numerous unpaid bills, including the rent for their County Ground home.

But there was one bill Morfuni and the club’s new board did not want to pay, a £100,000 claim from AC Sports Wiltshire LLC, as they believe it was a non-refundable deposit — not a loan — paid to Power as part of AC Sports’ attempt to buy Swindon in 2019, long before they gained control of the club.

At that time, Power said AC Sports was linked to an American-based property firm called Able but the names of the people behind the bid, or why they were interested in Swindon, were never made clear.

But they have not gone away and solicitors acting on their behalf filed the petition on November 29. As a result, the club’s bank account has been frozen. Swindon’s lawyers unsuccessfully asked the court to reconsider that move last week. Neither Able nor AC Sports have a website and the address given for the latter on the petition appears to be a “brass plate address” in Delaware.

The Athletic understands Morfuni’s UK-based company is financially supporting the club and there is no sense of panic. There is, however, a huge amount of frustration, as Swindon believe they will have to very reluctantly pay off AC Sports to avoid further legal bills and distractions.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JBZ on Monday, December 13, 2021, 21:54:26
That fills in a lot of blanks


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Monday, December 13, 2021, 22:11:39
Thank you.

For those who don't know, the 'Brass Plate Address' reference just means that Able and AC Sports are shell companies.

Shell companies are entities that do not have active business operations but are set up to achieve specific business objectives such as reducing tax liabilities, shielding an entity from legal risks, raising capital, and often, for illegal purposes such as laundering money, hiding beneficial ownership from law enforcement or circumventing sanctions.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, December 14, 2021, 09:16:31
Power must have been raging when he saw us drawing Man City at home in the FA Cup for a live TV game that generates a nice windfall.

Also looks like he may have the last laugh with this £100,000 if this article is to be believed. It seems like we have a shit hot legal team that might be able to make this go away, but it may be 'easier' to use some of the income from the cup tie to flush the turd away and get back to running the club.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, December 14, 2021, 09:41:03
Also looks like he may have the last laugh with this £100,000 if this article is to be believed.

I think laugh is pushing it, just a small giggle I suspect considering that the club was apparently worth £7m and even if this £100k is paid back he still only got £350k  :girlgiggle: :girlgiggle:

I wonder whether in responding to this the club are seeking to get details of who is behind Able to show a link to the previous proprietor.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JBZ on Tuesday, December 14, 2021, 09:42:38
They have to respond and/pay to head off a winding up order


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, December 14, 2021, 09:44:33
They have to respond and/pay to head off a winding up order

As its got to this stage does this suggest that Able have proven that the debt is both legitimate (i.e. a loan not  a deposit) and owing?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 14, 2021, 09:48:06
If legal costs are going to exceed money owed to ICBINP*, or will take too long to resolve,then head has to rule heart. It'll leave a bad taste, but cutting your nose off to spite your face isn't worth it

*I can't believe it's not Power.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, December 14, 2021, 09:50:55
I think laugh is pushing it, just a small giggle I suspect considering that the club was apparently worth £7m and even if this £100k is paid back he still only got £350k  :girlgiggle: :girlgiggle:

I wonder whether in responding to this the club are seeking to get details of who is behind Able to show a link to the previous proprietor.

Yes, perhaps that phrase was wide of the mark. But £350k is still a decent wedge to the layman.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, December 14, 2021, 09:51:58
As it's a loan, does any reference to Interest payments get a mention?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, December 14, 2021, 10:00:33
Yes, perhaps that phrase was wide of the mark. But £350k is still a decent wedge to the layman.

Indeed it is, which is why I often get pissed off at fans moaning that the owner won't bung a couple of 100k in to buy a striker for instance.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JBZ on Tuesday, December 14, 2021, 10:18:14
As its got to this stage does this suggest that Able have proven that the debt is both legitimate (i.e. a loan not  a deposit) and owing?

If the debtor can show this isn't a genuine debt and that it is disputed on grounds that appear to the court to be substantial, a petition should be dismissed the creditor should issue a debt claim instead.  This will be considered at the hearing next month (there are likely to be further hearings).

The athletic report refers to getting the account unfrozen and they may have sought a validation order.

I am unable to provide detailed analysis on this open forum.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: tans on Tuesday, December 14, 2021, 16:45:03
Rob Angus just on BBC Wilts.

Club likely to go to court to fight this, Clems UK companies supporting club with funding if needed


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, December 14, 2021, 16:49:03
Rob Angus just on BBC Wilts.

Club likely to go to court to fight this, Clems UK companies supporting club with funding if needed

Won't that take ages? (Given how long the Power v Standing court case is taking) How does Clem's UK company supporting club funding help if our Bank Account has been frozen? Does that mean that the bills will temporarily be paid out of his company account rather than the club bank account until it's all resolved?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: tans on Tuesday, December 14, 2021, 16:50:01
Court in January i think


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Tuesday, December 14, 2021, 16:50:21
Won't that take ages? (Given how long the Power v Standing court case is taking) How does Clem's UK company supporting club funding help if our Bank Account has been frozen? Does that mean that the bills will temporarily be paid out of his company account rather than the club bank account until it's all resolved?
Clem has paid shit loads on his credit card the last 6 months already. Someone has to pay the bills upfront when companies will not deal with us


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JBZ on Tuesday, December 14, 2021, 16:55:23
Won't that take ages? (Given how long the Power v Standing court case is taking)


This is a wholly different process


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, December 14, 2021, 16:57:57
Clem has paid shit loads on his credit card the last 6 months already. Someone has to pay the bills upfront when companies will not deal with us

Furry muff.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, December 14, 2021, 16:58:13
This is a wholly different process

I did wonder. Danke.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 14, 2021, 16:59:39
Clem has paid shit loads on his credit card the last 6 months already. Someone has to pay the bills upfront when companies will not deal with us

Now you're making me feel guilty about moaning about the (unconfirmed) Man City ticket prices

One hopes "the club" paid him back immediately


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: newmarket red on Tuesday, December 14, 2021, 17:12:36
Now you're making me feel guilty about moaning about the (unconfirmed) Man City ticket prices

One hopes "the club" paid him back immediately
just glad to have a football club no matter what.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Tuesday, December 14, 2021, 17:16:27
Now you're making me feel guilty about moaning about the (unconfirmed) Man City ticket prices

One hopes "the club" paid him back immediately
Sorry mate not my intention at all. This is one of those situations that i believe no one is right or wrong. The club will upset someone either way with whatever they do with the tickets. All i do know is that the likes of Puma ,Barnes Coaches and numerous others were paid on the spot by clems personal credit card


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bogus Dave on Tuesday, December 14, 2021, 17:18:27
He’s just trying to get air miles


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, December 14, 2021, 17:30:13
He’s just trying to get air miles

You see, there is always a way to make personal profit out of a football club!

Clem, you're a lovely chap, transfer some over and be a duck.  I could do with an upgrade on my return flight to Atlanta.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Tuesday, December 14, 2021, 17:39:48
He’s just trying to get air miles
Haha fucker don't need anymore


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: swindonmaniac on Wednesday, December 15, 2021, 08:11:54
Power must have been raging when he saw us drawing Man City at home in the FA Cup for a live TV game that generates a nice windfall.

Also looks like he may have the last laugh with this £100,000 if this article is to be believed. It seems like we have a shit hot legal team that might be able to make this go away, but it may be 'easier' to use some of the income from the cup tie to flush the turd away and get back to running the club.
Wouldn't have happened had he still been here.  We wouldn't have got past round one,  or even worse, by now, not even got a club to follow.
Worse thing to ever happen at this club. Blokes a total cunt.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, December 16, 2021, 13:46:01
Swinton Reds accounts lodged with Companies House.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, December 16, 2021, 16:08:57
Swinton Reds accounts lodged with Companies House.

Anything of interest in them ?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, December 16, 2021, 16:23:03
Anything of interest in them ?

Absolutely nothing apart from them being signed by one C Morfuni rather than L Power, which was nice!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
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Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Thursday, December 16, 2021, 17:10:31
OOOh, good stuff


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Thursday, December 16, 2021, 23:10:02
A brilliantly open (as always) hour from Rob Angus with Vic Morgan earlier, I’ve just watched back.

Not too much of note really, nothing new on the winding up order however it did make me laugh that Rob/Clem are calling those fans who’ve requested a ST refund directly to try and talk them round into changing their mind! It’s seems they’ve had some success too.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Posh Red on Thursday, December 16, 2021, 23:30:18
A brilliantly open (as always) hour from Rob Angus with Vic Morgan earlier, I’ve just watched back.

Not too much of note really, nothing new on the winding up order however it did make me laugh that Rob/Clem are calling those fans who’ve requested a ST refund directly to try and talk them round into changing their mind! It’s seems they’ve had some success too.

I will look forward to the call then ;)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, December 17, 2021, 08:41:02
Rob/Clem are calling those fans who’ve requested a ST refund directly to try and talk them round into changing their mind! It’s seems they’ve had some success too.
Christ are they still trying to wriggle out of that? If people want a refund just let them have it.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Crispy on Friday, December 17, 2021, 09:05:48
A brilliantly open (as always) hour from Rob Angus with Vic Morgan earlier, I’ve just watched back.

Not too much of note really, nothing new on the winding up order however it did make me laugh that Rob/Clem are calling those fans who’ve requested a ST refund directly to try and talk them round into changing their mind! It’s seems they’ve had some success too.

Not sure how well that sits with me to be honest, trying to pressure people out of refunds.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Hyabb17 on Friday, December 17, 2021, 09:07:32
Christ are they still trying to wriggle out of that? If people want a refund just let them have it.

I couldn't agree more. The club don't know an individual's financial situation nor should they ring to ask them to change their minds. It's around £14k, pay it & be done with it as it could have been far worse had the other 2800plus still held firm for money back....


Title: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Friday, December 17, 2021, 09:13:31
if you need the money. stay firm!

if you are thinking of waiving, try and wangle a free table for 10 in sponsors suite. Remember it was my idea :)
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I'm not comfortable with it either to be honest.

on one hand the club have money in the bank "many times over" to pay 100k to fAble (sic).

on the other we are so tight on money we can't pay back our own fans

there is good credit control and financial sense, but this seems a bit extreme.

what state is the club in really ??!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, December 17, 2021, 09:25:01
I couldn't agree more. The club don't know an individual's financial situation nor should they ring to ask them to change their minds. It's around £14k, pay it & be done with it as it could have been far worse had the other 2800plus still held firm for money back....

Yeah this is one of the things that I don't think the club have done very well at all. It's 140 people out of 3,000 ish as you say, it's a small cost in the grand scheme of things for people that clearly need(ed) the money. For me this bill should have been prioritised and settled and you'd have 140 content supporters. Now surely these fans are going to think long and hard about putting their hard earned into the club.

And to boot, with the open and honest nature of the club, all the other fans can see this issue lingering on, which surely is poor PR for STFC.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Crackity Jones on Friday, December 17, 2021, 09:25:04
What's next after the phone call. A personal visit to confirm you are really, really, really sure you want a refund?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Hyabb17 on Friday, December 17, 2021, 09:32:28
Yeah this is one of the things that I don't think the club have done very well at all. It's 140 people out of 3,000 ish as you say, it's a small cost in the grand scheme of things for people that clearly need(ed) the money. For me this bill should have been prioritised and settled and you'd have 140 content supporters. Now surely these fans are going to think long and hard about putting their hard earned into the club.

And to boot, with the open and honest nature of the club, all the other fans can see this issue lingering on, which surely is poor PR for STFC.

It certainly isn't great PR especially in a week where they've confirmed the City ticket pricing  :zipped:


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Friday, December 17, 2021, 09:41:49
What's next after the phone call. A personal visit to confirm you are really, really, really sure you want a refund?
Telegram from Her Majesty?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, December 17, 2021, 09:42:24
I couldn't agree more. The club don't know an individual's financial situation nor should they ring to ask them to change their minds. It's around £14k, pay it & be done with it as it could have been far worse had the other 2800plus still held firm for money back....

Is it only £100 per ST holder then?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Friday, December 17, 2021, 09:46:05
Is it only £100 per ST holder then?

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2021/july/season-tickets-on-sale-today/
Quote
As the club statement that was released on Saturday morning stated, all 2020/21 season ticket holders can request a refund, minus the cost of an iFollow pass (£230)

So more like £150 for an adult, but I assume some will be OAP and U18s, and some from the cheaper Town End.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Hyabb17 on Friday, December 17, 2021, 09:50:50
https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2021/july/season-tickets-on-sale-today/
So more like £150 for an adult, but I assume some will be OAP and U18s, and some from the cheaper Town End.

It was originally £130 (adult) for the side stands however the club changed their stance & said that they would also deduct money if you went to either game last December which will take it down to about £90-100 (if you went to both).


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Friday, December 17, 2021, 09:51:39
What's next after the phone call. A personal visit to confirm you are really, really, really sure you want a refund?
Clem turning up on the doorstep dressed as Rockin Robin.

Seriously though, they should just stump up now - the funds are obviously there given what was said about being able to pay ABLE (see what I did there) several times over.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Posh Red on Friday, December 17, 2021, 10:06:40
Maybe they will ask all ST holders who waived a refund to stump up a bit more to pay those that didn’t?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Hyabb17 on Friday, December 17, 2021, 10:10:19
Maybe they will ask all ST holders who waived a refund to stump up a bit more to pay those that didn’t?

I shouldn't laugh however this made me  :clap: :clap: :clap:


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Crackity Jones on Friday, December 17, 2021, 10:15:49
Maybe they will ask all ST holders who waived a refund to stump up a bit more to pay those that didn’t?
they could add a few quid on to ticket prices to cover historical debts such as season ticket refunds


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JoeMezz on Friday, December 17, 2021, 10:30:44
Angus did say that they will be looking at other things they can offer to people who have waived season ticket refunds... so perhaps more to come


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, December 17, 2021, 10:44:53
Angus did say that they will be looking at other things they can offer to people who have waived season ticket refunds... so perhaps more to come

What is their issue with just refunding? They seem to be digging their heels in for literally no benefit here?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, December 17, 2021, 10:56:58
What is their issue with just refunding? They seem to be digging their heels in for literally no benefit here?

One would imagine as in a business that is unable to wash its own face and owes a cool few million every penny counts.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, December 17, 2021, 10:59:43
It is a word of caution for the Man City game though isn’t it as I wonder what efforts they’ll go to to avoid refunds if Covid impacts that?!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Abrahammer on Friday, December 17, 2021, 11:16:37
Very little, we get that you aren’t happy about the ticket prices but you’re just being ridiculous now


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Samdy Gray on Friday, December 17, 2021, 12:03:17
I think he just likes moaning for the sake of moaning :)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Posh Red on Friday, December 17, 2021, 12:13:31
Very little, we get that you aren’t happy about the ticket prices but you’re just being ridiculous now

Do you think so, because I have to be fair that did cross my mind too.

Maybe they will refund £25 & keep the rest for the commemorative match ticket ;)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Friday, December 17, 2021, 12:39:11
soapy tit wank, I'm disappointed the match tickets for our 3 will 'only' come to £85

can they put it up 15 so I can pay on credit card and get section 75 protection :)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: blinkpip on Friday, December 17, 2021, 17:36:35
I'm considering asking for a refund now. The customer service is absolutely shocking and is winding me up big time lately.
I ordered the 3rd kit for my son within seconds it went on sale and they still haven't despatched it. Obliviously I want it for Christmas for him, but I'm expecting another fuck up like last year when I didn't receive any till late January despite ordering again within seconds it went on sale (August last year). Surely you work through who orders it first.
If I don't hear nothing by Monday, I will pressure for it.
So pissed off to keep giving them my money with shit service. :soapbox:


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Friday, December 17, 2021, 17:40:40
the supporters club were asking for volunteers yesterday and today to help with shirt packing

I know that's no use to you unless they can tell you if yours has been sent, and with the post being a bit rubbish for obvious reasons it's a bit fine...

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Hi all,

Due to a delay in receipt of the delivery of shirts the help with packing is now this Thursday (11am-7pm) & Friday (9am-7pm).

As we have had to change the dates there are some volunteers who were able to help that now are not available, so I am putting out another plea for help.     Thank you to people I have already contacted.

If you are able to help at all within the required timeframe, please let me know and we will add you to the rota.

Thanks


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: blinkpip on Friday, December 17, 2021, 17:47:05
the supporters club were asking for volunteers yesterday and today to help with shirt packing

I know that's no use to you unless they can tell you if yours has been sent, and with the post being a bit rubbish for obvious reasons it's a bit fine...

Nice one, didn't see that  :D Nothing posted yet though, but I so need it by next Friday. (I think the issues I had last year sets me off big time)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: china red on Friday, December 17, 2021, 19:40:54
I'm considering asking for a refund now. The customer service is absolutely shocking and is winding me up big time lately.
I ordered the 3rd kit for my son within seconds it went on sale and they still haven't despatched it. Obliviously I want it for Christmas for him, but I'm expecting another fuck up like last year when I didn't receive any till late January despite ordering again within seconds it went on sale (August last year). Surely you work through who orders it first.
If I don't hear nothing by Monday, I will pressure for it.
So pissed off to keep giving them my money with shit service. :soapbox:

Got ours within a week, tbh with you it looks pretty shit in real life.  Think someone described it as looking like a bin bag, which I wouldn’t disagree with.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Grim Reaper on Friday, December 17, 2021, 20:47:49
Agreed the service has been shocking from the club shop. Was informed on Monday by STFC that my order had been processed and DHL would deliver Tuesday. As of this morning still no shirt. Called in at DHL on way back to work to see if still at the depot. According to their system it was never sent out by STFC in the first place. Later on today I get another message from the club saying my order is being processed and will be delivered by DHL. Utter shambles. Genuinely concerned a lot of people bought these shirts for Christmas gifts and a lot of people going to be let down it seems.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Frigby Daser on Friday, December 17, 2021, 21:15:06
Is the club shop actually open next week, does anyone know? I would ask the club, but that’s kind of the problem - it’s difficult to find out. I’ve got Christmas presents to collect and it’s a 40minute drive for me… so it would be good to know!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: sir windon on Saturday, December 18, 2021, 09:15:34
Is the club shop actually open next week, does anyone know? I would ask the club, but that’s kind of the problem - it’s difficult to find out. I’ve got Christmas presents to collect and it’s a 40minute drive for me… so it would be good to know!

https://www.wiltshirelive.co.uk/sport/football/swindon-town-v-manchester-city-6365594.amp

The STFC store will be open from 10am to 6pm from Monday to Thursday, December 20 to 23, and will be shut on Christmas Eve.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Saturday, December 18, 2021, 10:48:46
Nice one Sir windon



Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: swindonmaniac on Saturday, December 18, 2021, 12:58:14
Angus did say that they will be looking at other things they can offer to people who have waived season ticket refunds... so perhaps more to come
What, like a free day out in the club shop packing shirts ??.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Boy About Town on Saturday, December 18, 2021, 13:16:06
I'm considering asking for a refund now. The customer service is absolutely shocking and is winding me up big time lately.
I ordered the 3rd kit for my son within seconds it went on sale and they still haven't despatched it. Obliviously I want it for Christmas for him, but I'm expecting another fuck up like last year when I didn't receive any till late January despite ordering again within seconds it went on sale (August last year). Surely you work through who orders it first.
If I don't hear nothing by Monday, I will pressure for it.
So pissed off to keep giving them my money with shit service. :soapbox:

I have had mine for a week. Did you order as soon as went on sale?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Saturday, December 18, 2021, 15:50:22
I know "tis the season..." and all that but I find it concerning that the club can't afford to take on some temp staff to put shirts in boxes...

Devil in the detail but if I'm honest all I'm seeing lately appears to be spin. There's several small things compounding under the surface and I think (the outstanding debts aside) Clem possibly doesn't have the depth of pockets we were kind of sold that he supposedly has (or wants to use). Skintus McGintus.

I am wondering if their next PR stunt is going to be setting up a soup kitchen for the homeless but then asking an unfortunate person to pay £5 but with the promise of being able to get £5 off the Northampton match (which will strategically graded at £5 higher price than the usual rate) but you know, its all to help get the club out of debt quicker...

Tell you what... Nope. You want to treat the club like a business then take responsibility for the debts you inherited and know about. STFC is not a fan owned or 50/50 club. Not at present. If I buy a business with debts owing and even discover more debts, that's on me. I can't continually expect my clients/customers too waive fees or pay higher prices and disguise it as doing a favour for them because this is what a lot of this bullshit is at present. They can't play the "community club" narrative on one hand but when it comes to taking the piss (and your cash) with the other hand say "it's just bizniz innit ya bastards".

More spinning than your local leisure centre!

Merry Christmas  :D


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, December 21, 2021, 06:00:19
Looks like something going on with the articles of association of stfc Ltd, albeit won't be reviewable on the CH website for 10 days.

Sent from my SM-A125F


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, December 21, 2021, 07:00:09
I'd imagine Clem is removing/amending the clauses that Power inserted and fucked himself over with.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Tuesday, December 21, 2021, 07:56:32
I know "tis the season..." and all that but I find it concerning that the club can't afford to take on some temp staff to put shirts in boxes...

Devil in the detail but if I'm honest all I'm seeing lately appears to be spin. There's several small things compounding under the surface and I think (the outstanding debts aside) Clem possibly doesn't have the depth of pockets we were kind of sold that he supposedly has (or wants to use). Skintus McGintus.

I am wondering if their next PR stunt is going to be setting up a soup kitchen for the homeless but then asking an unfortunate person to pay £5 but with the promise of being able to get £5 off the Northampton match (which will strategically graded at £5 higher price than the usual rate) but you know, its all to help get the club out of debt quicker...

Tell you what... Nope. You want to treat the club like a business then take responsibility for the debts you inherited and know about. STFC is not a fan owned or 50/50 club. Not at present. If I buy a business with debts owing and even discover more debts, that's on me. I can't continually expect my clients/customers too waive fees or pay higher prices and disguise it as doing a favour for them because this is what a lot of this bullshit is at present. They can't play the "community club" narrative on one hand but when it comes to taking the piss (and your cash) with the other hand say "it's just bizniz innit ya bastards".

More spinning than your local leisure centre!

Merry Christmas  :D
Weirdly none of that makes any sense at all.

You want to treat the club like a business then take responsibility for the debts you inherited and know about You said.... He has just done that and everyone has gone mental. Rightly so to be fair but to say they are bullshitting etc is just fucking stupid


Title: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 21, 2021, 08:17:53
some of it does make sense sort of. I also worry the financial situation is far worse than we know/has been made public. I put this to someone in a chat the other day.

as bamboo said (I think!), lots of little things cumulating to make me wonder.

but equally, it could be the  'count every penny' mode that some would say is good business practice


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, December 21, 2021, 08:48:38
Fans need to stop thinking Clem is super rich he is not.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: kirky69 on Tuesday, December 21, 2021, 09:30:26
Fans need to stop thinking Clem is super rich he is not.


Fair enough Duke, but hopefully he has sufficient resources to continue to effectively manage down the historic debt and underwrite the ongoing operating losses that go with owning a lower league club. Otherwise I can see issues further down the line and angst amongst some of our less less patient fan base.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Crackity Jones on Tuesday, December 21, 2021, 09:37:54
I don't think Clem has ever claimed to be super rich. He was able to provide evidence to the courts that he had the funds to save the club. I thought his stance was that there is no reason that STFC can't be self sustaining and turn a profit once the CG has been developed (and provided that club funds are not allegedly used to support lifestyles).


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, December 21, 2021, 09:44:30
I'd imagine Clem is removing/amending the clauses that Power inserted and fucked himself over with.

That was my thought....

Fans need to stop thinking Clem is super rich he is not.

but equally, it could be the  'count every penny' mode that some would say is good business practice

These are interlinked insofar as I suspect that whilst Clem is undoubtedly wealthy compared to us plebs, he is probably not that wealthy in football ownership terms.

As it stand we have club/business that appears unable to wash its face on day to day revenues and thus saving a pound here and a pound there is vital to getting it back on its feet again so if you know that you can get volunteers to come and help at the club shop it saves paying out for a paid member of staff to do so.

Its the age old football supporter argument, 'why on why won't the owner pay £250k for a striker' quickly followed by 'they have put the burgers up by 10p the thieving bastards'!

Fair enough Duke, but hopefully he has sufficient resources to continue to effectively manage down the historic debt and underwrite the ongoing operating losses that go with owning a lower league club. Otherwise I can see issues further down the line and angst amongst some of our less less patient fan base.

Which the advisory board minutes continue to show he does, and saving where they can will help speed that process. As noted previously a key matter must be getting the CCJ settled as that will allow the business to operate on a much stronger footing moving forward.  


Title: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 21, 2021, 09:49:43
Quote
Fans need to stop thinking Clem is super rich he is not.
that's fair enough Duke. I'm not having a pop, he was literally the only show in town anyway

I get he doesn't have pockets to offset a seasons debts.

what isn't clear is how close to the line we are in day to day operations terms.

I guess things should improve over time on that front


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Tuesday, December 21, 2021, 09:57:46
some of it does make sense sort of. I also worry the financial situation is far worse than we know/has been made public. I put this to someone in a chat the other day.

as bamboo said (I think!), lots of little things cumulating to make me wonder.

but equally, it could be the  'count every penny' mode that some would say is good business practice
The first day he walked in he asked for the receipts from the pens they had just bought from Tesco. He wants to run us properly and in his opinion, rightly or wrongly that includes maximizing every single opportunity we get financially. When you look at the staff we have bought in and the money spent on new gym gear and nutritionists and the away travel all being in order i think it all leads to being run properly.

Ticketing issues are a fucking joke down there but ultimately the issues, unfortunately, are from the system itself not the actual ticketing procedure. Where they have not helped themselves is communicating and also  allowing  extra tickets per person.

Clem has put in alot and just find it unfair when you start to see people start abusing him saying he is no different etc from previous owners. Don't get me wrong there is so much they have to improve on and lots of mistakes have been made but i think we are in a better position than some give us credit for

That's not a pop at you or anyone on here as such either tbf  but he has been getting a fair bit on social media


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 21, 2021, 09:59:33
a good reply shrivvy


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 21, 2021, 10:20:21
Fans need to stop thinking Clem is super rich he is not.
Absolutely, hes a very rich man by our standards but not by any means in the great scheme of wealthiness.



Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 21, 2021, 10:23:24
the old adage: how do you become a millionaire in football?

start by being a billionaire


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, December 21, 2021, 10:57:36
If it ends up happening I still think refunds for the City match could be a early defining moment. If they try to wriggle out of or delay refunds then I think a lot of fans will rightly lose patience and questions will need to be answered.

I’m hoping they are being sensible and putting all the ticket money for the City game to one side until the match is played so that it is readily available for refunds should it be required. If they aren’t then that raises its own questions about how the club is being run….


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, December 21, 2021, 11:00:32
On the plus side with interest rates going up 0.1% last week there's a little profit to be made!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, December 21, 2021, 12:32:26
that's fair enough Duke. I'm not having a pop, he was literally the only show in town anyway

I get he doesn't have pockets to offset a seasons debts.

what isn't clear is how close to the line we are in day to day operations terms.

I guess things should improve over time on that front

I know you weren’t mate.
The biggest challenge of the lot remains when the Courts unearth the true ownership details.
Until the Case is over we are not out of the woods by any any stretch of the imagination.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, December 21, 2021, 14:03:40
The biggest challenge of the lot remains when the Courts unearth the true ownership details.
Christ if the true ownership details come out anything could happen, not even sure Clem comes out of it squeaky clean if that happens.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Wednesday, December 22, 2021, 09:07:02
Christ if the true ownership details come out anything could happen, not even sure Clem comes out of it squeaky clean if that happens.

Nobody will come out of this club squeaky clean even more so the funding.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, December 22, 2021, 09:36:16
Nobody will come out of this club squeaky clean even more so the funding.

Not asking for clarity, but I hope that means historic, but I suspect the first bit means current too.

eek.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Moss on Wednesday, December 22, 2021, 09:39:20
I think most of the fan base need to adopt a new fan attitude to complement the new ownership. As someone else rightly said many of the fans demanding a bigger playing budget/lower prices  lose their shit because the club is trying to maximise its income from its only customers - the fans.

If Clem is to be believed (and I believe him) STFC is being run as a not for profit organisation. Otherwise known as a charity.
That's the mindset the fans need to adopt for now IMO.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: theakston2k on Wednesday, December 22, 2021, 10:02:00
Nobody will come out of this club squeaky clean even more so the funding.

Unfortunately that could well be true. Could easily argue even now the source of funding to the club hasn’t really changed from the days of Power, just the front man.  Will be interesting how much detail comes out in the court case with regards to some of non-execs and lurkers in the background.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, December 22, 2021, 10:07:51
Talking of which, did Zav's application for "board membership" (director?) get rejected by the EFL, or is it ongoing?

Its all gone very quiet on that. Obviusly he's still involved and around.

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2021/august/club-statement---zavier-austin/


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Robinz on Wednesday, December 22, 2021, 10:09:39
STFC seems to have had more twists and turns than Silverstone.

Suggest we were all aware Di Canio's would end in tears and his reign was a train crash waiting to happen. Surely no one could have thought it would take this long and could be as big as it appears.

Really hope that this wheeling and dealing including double dealing is coming to an end and some stable times are coming in the future.


 



Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: theakston2k on Wednesday, December 22, 2021, 10:13:00
Talking of which, did Zav's application for "board membership" (director?) get rejected by the EFL, or is it ongoing?

Its all gone very quiet on that. Obviusly he's still involved and around.

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2021/august/club-statement---zavier-austin/
He’s very much still involved, last thing I heard he was in Karachi earlier in the month meeting some politicians to support football over there, they referred to him as Swindon Town vice chairman.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Robinz on Wednesday, December 22, 2021, 10:17:37
My reasoning in bringing up the Di Canio period was surely if Town had gotten a more conventional manager during this period possibly just possibly Black would not have thrown his toys out the pram and open the club up to Jed and his peers and then chancer Power could have been owning Rochdale or better still the Pox.

Such a shame really. COYMRs


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Wednesday, December 22, 2021, 11:22:43
I was under the impression that Clem Morfuni and Austin were the guys who made the FA aware of what was going on once they realised


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: tans on Wednesday, December 22, 2021, 14:17:11
Thats what i thought too? Wasnt it pretty much confirmed thats how Zav Austin ended up getting beaten up?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Power to people on Wednesday, December 22, 2021, 15:51:57
Thats what i thought too? Wasnt it pretty much confirmed thats how Zav Austin ended up getting beaten up?

Exactly what I understood, hopefully the FA / FL (eventually) will be lenient on the club when the time comes for this and many other reasons.

The next exciting instalment is January with the Able court case, hopefully having to explain their potentially interesting ownership and why they are using different vehicles to put in their non refundable deposit


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Thursday, December 23, 2021, 08:55:40
Exactly what I understood, hopefully the FA / FL (eventually) will be lenient on the club when the time comes for this and many other reasons.

The next exciting instalment is January with the Able court case, hopefully having to explain their potentially interesting ownership and why they are using different vehicles to put in their non refundable deposit

All fuelled by Lee Power and his retribution “clause.”
Unsavoury characters these people.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Thursday, December 23, 2021, 20:49:26
All fuelled by Lee Power and his retribution “clause.”
Unsavoury characters these people.

Unsavoury? Me thinks you’re being to generous Duke.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Million Pound Man on Thursday, December 23, 2021, 20:56:53
I see the club have asked the supporters club for 'volunteer stewards' for upcoming games. Bit of a liberty when we were sold increased stewarding costs as a reason for increased Man City tickets  :hmmm:


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: blinkpip on Friday, December 31, 2021, 18:14:44
I'm considering asking for a refund now. The customer service is absolutely shocking and is winding me up big time lately.
I ordered the 3rd kit for my son within seconds it went on sale and they still haven't despatched it. Obliviously I want it for Christmas for him, but I'm expecting another fuck up like last year when I didn't receive any till late January despite ordering again within seconds it went on sale (August last year). Surely you work through who orders it first.
If I don't hear nothing by Monday, I will pressure for it.
So pissed off to keep giving them my money with shit service. :soapbox:

Still no shirt or communication. I just bet they kept selling the shirts before fulling orders first, now sold out online  
and to also make worse Christmas, the boy and the wife had covid. (both fine, thankfully)
But the lack of communication and honestly does fuck me off, just reply.   :suicide:


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: china red on Friday, December 31, 2021, 18:44:47
The shirts are tiny, mine was 6 odd inches too short, fine girth wise but sits around my belly button in length


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Power to people on Monday, January 3, 2022, 19:19:50
Still no shirt or communication. I just bet they kept selling the shirts before fulling orders first, now sold out online 
and to also make worse Christmas, the boy and the wife had covid. (both fine, thankfully)
But the lack of communication and honestly does fuck me off, just reply.   :suicide:

They still haven't cracked this comminication lark yet


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, January 4, 2022, 09:35:37
The shirts are tiny, mine was 6 odd inches too short, fine girth wise but sits around my belly button in length

Did it come with a rubber sucker?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, January 4, 2022, 09:35:58
To be fair to the club, I emailed them on New Years Eve about how I go about getting a refund for the Walsall game and got a response very quickly. Now whether the refund is actually processed within good time is another story but I was impressed with the clear and concise instruction in what looked a professional way.

Kind regards,

STFC


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: swindonmaniac on Tuesday, January 4, 2022, 09:59:21
To be fair to the club, I emailed them on New Years Eve about how I go about getting a refund for the Walsall game and got a response very quickly. Now whether the refund is actually processed within good time is another story but I was impressed with the clear and concise instruction in what looked a professional way.

Kind regards,

STFC
Dont be hoodwinked, it’s all a front !!.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Saturday, January 8, 2022, 08:01:01
Due we think the club are going to let us know how much wonga we made from last nights little exhibition match?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Samdy Gray on Saturday, January 8, 2022, 08:56:14
You'd think it'll be in the next advisory board minutes.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Saturday, January 8, 2022, 09:10:38
You'd think it'll be in the next advisory board minutes.

Yeah my thoughts too, so hopefully that transpires.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: singingiiiffy on Saturday, January 8, 2022, 09:51:30
a question about the advertising boards. they all showed our standard sponsors, did we pay out for hire or are provided or have we spent money on them for future advertising return?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Grim Reaper on Saturday, January 8, 2022, 10:51:00
a question about the advertising boards. they all showed our standard sponsors, did we pay out for hire or are provided or have we spent money on them for future advertising return?

My guess is they were ‘given’ to the club by the major sponsor Emerits just for this game. Doubt they will be there for the Gash game. Liked them though, made us look a little more upmarket.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Saturday, January 8, 2022, 19:15:48
Due we think the club are going to let us know how much wonga we made from last nights little exhibition match?

Estimated between £300k and £400k.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Saturday, January 8, 2022, 19:38:54
net


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: @MacPhlea on Sunday, January 9, 2022, 08:11:01
a question about the advertising boards. they all showed our standard sponsors, did we pay out for hire or are provided or have we spent money on them for future advertising return?
I think you’ll find that they come as part of the tv coverage package and will be removed afterwards


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Sunday, January 9, 2022, 09:16:05
I think you’ll find that they come as part of the tv coverage package and will be removed afterwards

Makes a lot of sense now. Not that they’ll be removed, that is a given. Just the setting up, funding, advertising, payments etc.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Monday, January 10, 2022, 20:32:25
In other thread, £300k for Twine with 20% sell on, £150k we've already had.

Twine money and Man City money coming in similar times is going to greatly help with cash flow and hopefully get us much closer to being in the black.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Gnasher on Monday, January 10, 2022, 22:35:59
Refusals C and D

https://highworthtowncouncil.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/04.1.2022-Planning-Minutes.pdf (https://highworthtowncouncil.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/04.1.2022-Planning-Minutes.pdf)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, January 11, 2022, 07:07:49
Refusals C and D

https://highworthtowncouncil.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/04.1.2022-Planning-Minutes.pdf (https://highworthtowncouncil.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/04.1.2022-Planning-Minutes.pdf)


Can you interpret for those of us in the tl;dr camp? With zero chance STFC will train at a Pee Lower-owned facility, doesn’t the sports centre become a large white elephant?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Broadbents Tackle on Tuesday, January 11, 2022, 08:16:40
Can you interpret for those of us in the tl;dr camp? With zero chance STFC will train at a Pee Lower-owned facility, doesn’t the sports centre become a large white elephant?

Without knowing what I'm talking about, I read it as refusal of training ground = no one cares, refusal of houses = haha Power you thieving cunt.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Gnasher on Tuesday, January 11, 2022, 10:53:04
Can you interpret for those of us in the tl;dr camp? With zero chance STFC will train at a Pee Lower-owned facility, doesn’t the sports centre become a large white elephant?

Basically recommended refusal of all of Power's plans. The homes will hit him the hardest.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, January 11, 2022, 12:48:12
I see that Scott Twine is already being touted by Swansea as a prospective signing this window for around £1m with MKD cashing in quickly, he would link up with the manager that signed him for MKD originally Russell Martin.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, January 11, 2022, 15:04:54
I see that Scott Twine is already being touted by Swansea as a prospective signing this window for around £1m with MKD cashing in quickly, he would link up with the manager that signed him for MKD originally Russell Martin.

Another £200k on top of the £300k we're already getting for Twine would be good business.

Added to the Man City revenue, it's such a good feeling that this will be going towards paying debts rather than the fat controllers prostitute fund.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, January 11, 2022, 16:49:58
I see that new Articles of Association were adopted by STFC Ltd on the 20th December 2021. These can now be viewed on the CH website.
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/00053100/filing-history


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Power to people on Wednesday, January 12, 2022, 14:22:45
Another £200k on top of the £300k we're already getting for Twine would be good business.

Added to the Man City revenue, it's such a good feeling that this will be going towards paying debts rather than the fat controllers prostitute fund.

Surely he will be worth more than that in a year or so the way he has been playing, you would think they would be mad to cash in now having only signed him 6 months ago


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 10:01:42
Got the refund for my Walsall ticket back in my bank today. Found the whole process easy and the club provided good communication by email.

Credit where it's due.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: reeves4england on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 10:39:18
Surely he will be worth more than that in a year or so the way he has been playing, you would think they would be mad to cash in now having only signed him 6 months ago
Depends what offers they get in the summer I suppose. If someone comes in willing to pay £2-£5m you probably feel you have to take it. He could break his leg in the first game of the next season and that money would be gone.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 10:41:47
Depends what offers they get in the summer I suppose. If someone comes in willing to pay £2-£5m you probably feel you have to take it. He could break his leg in the first game of the next season and that money would be gone.

The known suitors are Swansea and Forest and they are unlikely to be putting up anything like that kind of money would they? I would have thought they likely go about as high as £1 mill? The good thing is Franchise only get 80% of that money so they are going to want to get that fee as high as they possibly can which benefits us.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 12:29:03
Depends what offers they get in the summer I suppose. If someone comes in willing to pay £2-£5m you probably feel you have to take it. He could break his leg in the first game of the next season and that money would be gone.


“Surely he will be worth more than that in a year or so the way he has been playing, you would think they would be mad to cash in now having only signed him 6 months ago”

Depends on the mindset of the owners at MK. Scott Twine will have little (not none, but little) say in the matter. If they are building a credible team to take them to the championship he’d likely as not be touted by the club or Scott’s agent. If they’re up for a quick Buck then the opposite is likely. Scott will just want to play as often as he can and let his boots do the talking. As for breaking his leg!! Oh you’re a cheerful cunt aren’t you? Of course he could, equally he could next season bag 20+ goals for Franchise, I really don’t think the leg breaking possibilities would be a factor in his near term future and I doubt Aberdeen, Clem and Garner will be planning this transfer window or next seasons player procurement on the back of any monies the club may or may not get from MK and the sell on clause.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: reeves4england on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 13:05:27
The known suitors are Swansea and Forest and they are unlikely to be putting up anything like that kind of money would they? I would have thought they likely go about as high as £1 mill? The good thing is Franchise only get 80% of that money so they are going to want to get that fee as high as they possibly can which benefits us.
I've got no idea who is interested or what they can afford, but with Twine being touted as one of the top players in L1 this year the figures I mentioned aren't toally unthinkable. If the sum was nearer £1m then the decision might not be so clear cut, but if were top end of L1 I doub't we'd be turning that kind of money down for anyone.

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As for breaking his leg!! Oh you’re a cheerful cunt aren’t you? Of course he could, equally he could next season bag 20+ goals for Franchise, I really don’t think the leg breaking possibilities would be a factor in his near term future

Clearly my wild hypothetical scenario has riled you. Not sure why. But there are plenty of equally less dramatic possibilities. He struggles with niggly injuries which hamper his form and put people off buying. Squad changes over the summer don't really work to his strengths. MK go up and he doesn't quite cut it in the Champioship... All of these would detract from the fee they could get, hence taking the money while it's there.

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I doubt Aberdeen, Clem and Garner will be planning this transfer window or next seasons player procurement on the back of any monies the club may or may not get from MK and the sell on clause.
Agreed.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 14:30:49
I've got no idea who is interested or what they can afford, but with Twine being touted as one of the top players in L1 this year the figures I mentioned aren't toally unthinkable. If the sum was nearer £1m then the decision might not be so clear cut, but if were top end of L1 I doub't we'd be turning that kind of money down for anyone.

Aren't dongs short of cash anyway so cashing in could be too hard to resist?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 14:47:45
I've got no idea who is interested or what they can afford, but with Twine being touted as one of the top players in L1 this year the figures I mentioned aren't toally unthinkable. If the sum was nearer £1m then the decision might not be so clear cut, but if were top end of L1 I doub't we'd be turning that kind of money down for anyone.

Clearly my wild hypothetical scenario has riled you. Not sure why. But there are plenty of equally less dramatic possibilities. He struggles with niggly injuries which hamper his form and put people off buying. Squad changes over the summer don't really work to his strengths. MK go up and he doesn't quite cut it in the Champioship... All of these would detract from the fee they could get, hence taking the money while it's there.
Agreed.

Riled?. Clearly?, you think? Nah, I’m just taking the piss, I don’t really care TBH.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 14:53:09
I've got no idea who is interested or what they can afford, but with Twine being touted as one of the top players in L1 this year the figures I mentioned aren't toally unthinkable. If the sum was nearer £1m then the decision might not be so clear cut, but if were top end of L1 I doub't we'd be turning that kind of money down for anyone.

Clearly my wild hypothetical scenario has riled you. Not sure why. But there are plenty of equally less dramatic possibilities. He struggles with niggly injuries which hamper his form and put people off buying. Squad changes over the summer don't really work to his strengths. MK go up and he doesn't quite cut it in the Champioship... All of these would detract from the fee they could get, hence taking the money while it's there.
Agreed.

Well, if your hypothesis is in the right direction why buy him if he is injury prone and summer reshuffles don’t suit him? I’d have thought that being the case other more savvy clubs wouldn’t touch him with a barge pole on that basis so cashing in is going to be very a limited possibility surely?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: reeves4england on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 15:27:53
Well, if your hypothesis is in the right direction why buy him if he is injury prone and summer reshuffles don’t suit him? I’d have thought that being the case other more savvy clubs wouldn’t touch him with a barge pole on that basis so cashing in is going to be very a limited possibility surely?

It's got nothing to do with being injury prone, as you well know. Simply that the offer of money now versus the uncertainty of the future is hard to resist, especially in a climate where many clubs have been starved of income. Very few clubs in League 1 can turn down a 7-figure offer in the hope of getting more further down the line.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 17:19:18
It's got nothing to do with being injury prone, as you well know. Simply that the offer of money now versus the uncertainty of the future is hard to resist, especially in a climate where many clubs have been starved of income. Very few clubs in League 1 can turn down a 7-figure offer in the hope of getting more further down the line.
Power allegedly did this with Kasim & that didn't end well.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Posh Red on Friday, January 14, 2022, 11:31:21
Anyone heard anything more about ST refunds, wasn’t it supposed to happen in January?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Friday, January 14, 2022, 12:04:53
my mate who was looking for a refund hasn't.

didn't get 'the call' either, but he may not have put his phone number on file


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, January 14, 2022, 12:08:16
my mate who was looking for a refund hasn't.

didn't get 'the call' either, but he may not have put his phone number on file
Your mate ;) :D


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Friday, January 14, 2022, 12:40:36
I think I moaned enough about the man city ticket prices for you to know it genuinly isn't me.

besides, I've got a 'I'm a better fan than Posh'  T-Shirt the club sent me as a thank-you

(only joking posh, I don't blame anyone for asking for money back. the handling of this has been poweresque)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Posh Red on Friday, January 14, 2022, 13:05:44
Interestingly I asked if I could have a credit for home tickets so I could bring my Dad along to some games.

This was what I’d requested for the refund for ST & away tickets from the previous season, which got written off.

But even for that I’ve heard nothing.

PS. I have found a way to save almost two grand a year though, don’t go to home games ;)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Friday, January 14, 2022, 13:45:18
sounds a very pragmatic compromise

hopefully you'll get some comms soon


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, January 20, 2022, 16:43:13
I'll tell you what, credit where credit is due barely a day seems to go by without another commercial partner for the club being announced, even if they are not paying a fortune its really helping to swell the coffers and get the club out there.



Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Thursday, January 20, 2022, 16:58:20
I'll tell you what, credit where credit is due barely a day seems to go by without another commercial partner for the club being announced, even if they are not paying a fortune its really helping to swell the coffers and get the club out there.



Every little helps as the Tesco motto goes. It's about building relationships with local businesses as well.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, January 20, 2022, 17:00:44
I'll tell you what, credit where credit is due barely a day seems to go by without another commercial partner for the club being announced, even if they are not paying a fortune its really helping to swell the coffers and get the club out there.



Troo story.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, January 21, 2022, 16:25:19
Another one today. Mydis - official disinfectant partner!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Berniman on Friday, January 21, 2022, 16:47:04
Another one today. Mydis - official disinfectant partner!

They have been around for most of the season - i think they are just running a competition


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, January 21, 2022, 17:36:43
Another one today. Mydis - official disinfectant partner!

Can't beat a Mydis touch.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, January 21, 2022, 17:42:50
And another

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2022/january/town-announce-partnership-with-dan-designs/


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, January 21, 2022, 18:08:12
And, tbf, the Pox have announced one as well

https://www.justdial.com/jdmart/Jalgaon/Sakhi-Kunt-Company/9999PX257-X257-150408231736-Y9J7_BZDET/catalogue


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 12:47:57
Another partnership with Karachi FC in Pakistan. Wow!

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2022/january/swindon-town-announce-exciting-new-partnership-with-karachi-fc/


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 12:48:48
Another partnership with Karachi FC in Pakistan. Wow!

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2022/january/swindon-town-announce-exciting-new-partnership-with-karachi-fc/

…I know a great restaurant in Karachi


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 12:51:21
Another partnership with Karachi FC in Pakistan. Wow!

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2022/january/swindon-town-announce-exciting-new-partnership-with-karachi-fc/

bit random.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 12:53:54
Not if you read the article. First in a series of footballing partnerships throughout Asia. Really proactive from STFC. How many gems are out there just waiting to be found.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Broadbents Tackle on Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 12:55:15
Isn't that where Zavier Austin was not long back? Or did he just meet a representative in the UK?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 12:56:33
Ok, am I being thick. I can’t find anything to say a Karachi FC exists


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 13:03:17
There’s this. But the crest is different

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karachi_United


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 13:04:43
There’s this. But the crest is different

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karachi_United

Yeah that’s what I found and couldn’t work out if it’s supposed to be the same team.
I saw the crest on the official club announcement and wondered if their kit was those colours and whether I could buy one!!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 13:16:55
I can find no Karachi football club, and the badge doesn't reverse image search.

so 🤷‍♂️


anyway, can't see any harm in it, just a bit odd I can't find them


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 13:20:50
I can find no Karachi football club, and the badge doesn't reverse image search.

so 🤷‍♂️


anyway, can't see any harm in it, just a bit odd I can't find them

I bet Milan Misun plays for them.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 13:21:50
It's probably just a money laundering scam.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 13:41:37
Not if you read the article. First in a series of footballing partnerships throughout Asia. Really proactive from STFC. How many gems are out there just waiting to be found.

No, I read the article and still find it a bit random. Especially as the football club doesn't seem to exist, certainly not in the top division in Pakistan.


Title: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 13:43:08
Karachi Untied have a ground capacity of 2000

if this is a lower level club is even more odd.

I'm not saying it's bad, just odd.

Also is Xav now an approved bone fide director?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 13:43:59
I’m looking forward to a half time curry in the DR, indeed a sponsorship deal which includes a promotional half-time curry being passed down the seating like Dominos.

As for finding hidden gems the next tie up will be with Outback Aussie Gold Hunters and Outback Opal Hunters, watch this space.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 13:44:29
I don't think you can say that any more LL


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 13:46:47
Eh?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 13:47:14
I’m looking forward to a half time curry in the DR, indeed a sponsorship deal which includes a promotional half-time curry being passed down the seating like Dominos.

As for finding hidden gems the next tie up will be with Outback Aussie Gold Hunters and Outback Opal Hunters, watch this space.
Bit of an antiquated reaction. Pakistan = curry.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 13:47:39
Eh?

This
Bit of an antiquated reaction. Pakistan = curry.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 13:48:24
I can confirm my Pakistani colleague has never heard of them, albeit he lives in Lahore rather than Karachi.

#sauces


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 13:49:13
I thought LL was part Asian?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 13:51:57
I thought LL was part Asian?

Is he? Ah, right.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 13:53:53
I read that as part Aslan.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 13:56:34
Bit of an antiquated reaction. Pakistan = curry.

But in the UK, in the main, Curry = Bangladesh?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 14:10:51
But in the UK, in the main, Curry = Bangladesh?

So I gather


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 14:11:50
I read that as part Aslan.

ROAR!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: RWB Robin on Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 14:16:56
Well a cursory search of the Internet throws up FC Karachi, which describes itself as 'the most visionary club in Pakistan' and has been having discussions with the British High Commissioner about modernising football in Pakistan...



.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 14:23:54
Well a cursory search of the Internet throws up FC Karachi, which describes itself as 'the most visionary club in Pakistan' and has been having discussions with the British High Commissioner about modernising football in Pakistan...
FC Karachi have a different badge to the one on the OS.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 14:48:42
I’m sure the lack of mods can insert a traditional Pakistani dish into my tongue in cheek post regarding international cuisine options at the county ground. Or one of you can take exception and complain then I can be banned, I Don’t mind either way. Sure common sense will prevail either way.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 14:51:26
I imagine I haven't had Pakistani food before,  which I presume is actually a misnomer because it is likely much more regionalised than that given historical context of the "nation"


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 15:00:10
I know a lot of Indian restaurants are Bangladeshi. I honestly don’t know whether Pakistani cuisine is intrinsically different.

Tbf, a choice away from flaccid burger and soggy chips would be a huge step forward.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: RWB Robin on Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 15:23:23
FC Karachi have a different badge to the one on the OS.

I agree  but the badge on the OS may well be a generic Pakistani one.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: reeves4england on Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 16:03:13
I imagine I haven't had Pakistani food before,  which I presume is actually a misnomer because it is likely much more regionalised than that given historical context of the "nation"

My minimal experience of Pakistan has taught me that biryani, karahi, halwa and parathas are all common.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 17:38:32
I agree  but the badge on the OS may well be a generic Pakistani one.
Doing an image search online there are no occurances of that exact same badge anywhere or even similar style and or colour.

It may have been made up just for the purpose of filling a gap in the web site but that sounds most unusual.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 18:29:35
Approved!



Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Crackity Jones on Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 18:37:37
Doesn't that mean a decision will be made in March, Aud?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Hunk on Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 18:40:32
Doesn't that mean a decision will be made in March, Aud?

Reading Aud’s post it would seem so, but certainly looks extremely promising to my layman eyes


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 19:13:04
I suspect that an agreement has been reached with the valuation (in principle) albeit not rubber stamped and the groundwork cleared for approval without any hold ups. Equally it may also transpire that an understanding has been agreed that the rent arrears either have been or will be satisfied on or before the exchange of contracts on the sale. That sort of thing. The club are being run as it should have always been and the council need the bunce. The club could say to the council we’d like to have the terms of our lease changed to one where we pay with you undertaking the upkeep and repairs. That would frighten the council as they couldn’t get anyone else to take that over if they said no to that proposal. Best sell ASAP and let the club take the hit.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, January 27, 2022, 09:32:15
Approved!



How can it be approved if the decision is to be made on 16th March? Unless the decision is just a formality as I have no idea what that document you shared actually is.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, January 27, 2022, 10:11:00
Sadly nothing has changed or been decided, that screen dump (which can be found here https://ww5.swindon.gov.uk/mgIssueHistoryHome.aspx?IId=65126&Opt=0 ) dates from December and relates to notifying that the decision will be made at Cabinet on that date in March, ultimately whatever is agreed between the Council Officers and the club/Trust the final decision lies with the elected members and they are quite within their rights to turn it down whether a price has been agreed at that date or not.

Been nearly 20 yrs since I worked in local govt so not sure why this decision has to be previewed like this (from experience many non contentious matters have to go down very convoluted routes due to adopted standing orders), purely speculating - may be because its a sale of Council property (so ultimately belonging to the taxpayers of Swindon) or possibly related to the ACV issue or because its above a certain value or (as noted) due to its commercial nature certain details will not be made public within the reports relating to the sale considered at Cabinet?

Its another step on the way though!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, January 27, 2022, 10:14:39
I took it as the bit that said Approval to sell the freehold of the CG to a JV etc


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, January 27, 2022, 10:35:02
I took it as the bit that said Approval to sell the freehold of the CG to a JV etc

That looks like it's just the title of what the proposal is.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Thursday, January 27, 2022, 12:03:24
Guide to reporting fan behaviour....

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2022/january/reporting-poor-fan-behaviour-at-sn1/

Does this include flare throwing?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: ThreeDrawsMentality on Thursday, January 27, 2022, 14:56:46
Separate matter, but Bolton, who used the Covid Future Fund, withdrew the max £5mn available and rather than pay it back, they've diluted it into an 8% share holding for the Future Fund bank, which is basically the tax payer. Bolton Wanderers have been nationalised.

Bolton have spent a lot in transfer fees this season, so makes me feel a bit sick from that perspective that this is probably from them gaming the system.

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/19877385.bolton-wanderers-convert-5million-covid-pandemic-loan-shares-company/


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Thursday, January 27, 2022, 15:32:16
Separate matter, but Bolton, who used the Covid Future Fund, withdrew the max £5mn available and rather than pay it back, they've diluted it into an 8% share holding for the Future Fund bank, which is basically the tax payer. Bolton Wanderers have been nationalised.

Bolton have spent a lot in transfer fees this season, so makes me feel a bit sick from that perspective that this is probably from them gaming the system.

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/19877385.bolton-wanderers-convert-5million-covid-pandemic-loan-shares-company/

Flabbergasted this is allowed, to be honest.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, January 27, 2022, 15:43:26
Separate matter, but Bolton, who used the Covid Future Fund, withdrew the max £5mn available and rather than pay it back, they've diluted it into an 8% share holding for the Future Fund bank, which is basically the tax payer. Bolton Wanderers have been nationalised.

Bolton have spent a lot in transfer fees this season, so makes me feel a bit sick from that perspective that this is probably from them gaming the system.

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/19877385.bolton-wanderers-convert-5million-covid-pandemic-loan-shares-company/

One would assume that someone at the bank (which whilst govt funded is independently run) feels there is potential to achieve a return on their investment by taking shares, they have been converting these small loans into shareholdings in hundreds of companies they invested in.

8% of total holding is hardly nationalised.


Title: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, February 2, 2022, 15:55:03
is this guy still involved with the club (was he ever)?

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/19893428.former-brunel-rooms-boss-jason-ranford-jailed-christmas-attack/ (https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/19893428.former-brunel-rooms-boss-jason-ranford-jailed-christmas-attack/)

has fenced off bit by the old fitc/ticket office reverted to club control?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, February 2, 2022, 15:58:12
"It was heard it occurred after Ranford had drunk between five and 15 vodka red bulls"

That's er... quite a range.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, February 2, 2022, 16:01:23
may be wrong and he may never have been involved with STFC.

pretty sure his car used to be in the fenced off bit of the CG car park Power leased out

don't suppose it much matters


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Hunk on Wednesday, February 2, 2022, 16:47:44
may be wrong and he may never have been involved with STFC.

pretty sure his car used to be in the fenced off bit of the CG car park Power leased out

don't suppose it much matters

I’ve have the displeasure of encountering him in the past. As far as I know his ties to town only go as far as Power’s former head of security, I forget his name, the one who got cited (along with Power) for abusing officials. They are best mates. So I expect he’s had Power’s ear on occasion.

One way or another he’s a thoroughly distasteful little man.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Wednesday, February 2, 2022, 16:49:04
is this guy still involved with the club (was he ever)?

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/19893428.former-brunel-rooms-boss-jason-ranford-jailed-christmas-attack/ (https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/19893428.former-brunel-rooms-boss-jason-ranford-jailed-christmas-attack/)

has fenced off bit by the old fitc/ticket office reverted to club control?
Nah, he was just leased the bottom of the car park as a final kick in the bollocks and friends wth the head of security


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, February 2, 2022, 16:55:05
ah right, that's good then. phew. Nothing to see here

Ben 'dolph' Gristwood is the security guy Qunk


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Hunk on Wednesday, February 2, 2022, 16:57:36
ah right, that's good then. phew. Nothing to see here

Ben 'dolph' Gristwood is the security guy Qunk

That’s the one. Knew it was a Ben


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Boy About Town on Wednesday, February 2, 2022, 17:42:29
That Dolphin guy still lords around the County Ground as though he is a prize attraction at Seaworld. He owns platinum security IIRC.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Riddick on Wednesday, February 2, 2022, 18:21:01
That Dolphin guy still lords around the County Ground as though he is a prize attraction at Seaworld. He owns platinum security IIRC.

He does indeed, a long with an older fella who is always in the boardroom on match days, that i had assumed was Jason Ranfords father, but perhaps not.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Wednesday, February 2, 2022, 18:55:18
He isn't that bad a guy tbf, he was fucked around just as much as a lot of creditors


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: DiV on Thursday, February 3, 2022, 01:22:29
is this guy still involved with the club (was he ever)?

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/19893428.former-brunel-rooms-boss-jason-ranford-jailed-christmas-attack/ (https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/19893428.former-brunel-rooms-boss-jason-ranford-jailed-christmas-attack/)

has fenced off bit by the old fitc/ticket office reverted to club control?

Whatever he does, he seems to be involved with trouble.

Few assaults here and there & a bit of fraud before right.
Renting property from landlords then renting out the property he was renting. Taking the rent as ‘landlord’ and giving the actual landlords sob stories about family dying as to why he couldn’t pay rent.



Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Million Pound Man on Thursday, February 3, 2022, 08:44:02
may be wrong and he may never have been involved with STFC.

pretty sure his car used to be in the fenced off bit of the CG car park Power leased out

don't suppose it much matters

he was in the directors box at Oldham.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Thursday, February 3, 2022, 09:02:14
yeah, he doesn't seem to be the most pleasant, but I guess that's between him and the law.

As long as its not a formal association with the club...Which it seems not to be


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Posh Red on Friday, February 4, 2022, 13:08:26
Gave up waiting for the club to contact me about ST refunds, despite several emails to ask what was happening. So decided to call the ticket office and they processed over the phone.

The stupid thing is that I’d have been happy with some credit on future home tickets, so I could take my Dad, but have now been given money back.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, February 9, 2022, 08:52:31
In typical Swindon fashion we get the feel good factor back with the club takeover, and the crowds start to return after years (apart from 1 season) in the doldrums, even the results (away) are very good. Things are looking up. Then we reach early December and the draw for the FA Cup, Man City are next to be put to the sword  :), oh dear it's a home draw  ::) We play very well considering, a plucky performance. Since that draw we seem to have gone right off the boil, our tempo has gone. With the exception of Northampton at home and Burslem away we seem to have lost our way. Our possession (tippy, tappy) football just seems to delay the inevitable, make 30 passes, it breaks down about 30 yards out, 2 passes and it's in the back of our net. Game over.
Being on the back foot doesn't work for us, attack with gusto and we can really punish teams in this division.
Please put the wheels back on and get back to winning ways. Thanks.

PS  The story I read about "blocking out external noise" I assume is ignoring crowd grumblings? Wrong approach imo, fans need to be engaged with. Wellens did a good job of that when he was here.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, February 9, 2022, 19:03:13
Is it just me that finds 'Zav' and the Karachi link utterly bizarre

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2022/february/stfc-enjoy-productive-trip-to-karachi/

Still, his past is in the past, I hope


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JoeMezz on Wednesday, February 9, 2022, 19:06:06
Is it just me that finds 'Zav' and the Karachi link utterly bizarre

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2022/february/stfc-enjoy-productive-trip-to-karachi/

Still, his past is in the past, I hope

It does seem extremely odd.. yet again I’m not sure what funny business you could get up to? Seems strange but happy to go along with it - we asked for transparency after all


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JBZ on Wednesday, February 9, 2022, 19:08:57
"This stuff attracts women like you would not believe" - Karachi Medical Gazette


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, February 9, 2022, 20:40:24
Is it just me that finds 'Zav' and the Karachi link utterly bizarre

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2022/february/stfc-enjoy-productive-trip-to-karachi/

Still, his past is in the past, I hope

Maybe Clem fixed their bogs?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, February 9, 2022, 23:02:46
It does all rather look like the kind of thing you'd get a minor but dim royal to do to keep him out of trouble. Not that minor royal obviously.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, February 9, 2022, 23:38:19
Again that club badge which doesn’t exist anywhere.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Frigby Daser on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 08:49:31
I don’t really get it. If we spot talented players, we’d be unlikely to be able to recruit them because of immigration issues. If we want a community project, there are probably enough worthy and needy causes within 3 miles of the County Ground to keep 92 clubs busy, let alone one! Puzzling.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 09:01:00
Batch posted this on Twitter I think -

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/931697-swindon-town-fc-to-train-pakistani-coaches-under-15-kids


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 09:01:20
I don’t really get it. If we spot talented players, we’d be unlikely to be able to recruit them because of immigration issues. If we want a community project, there are probably enough worthy and needy causes within 3 miles of the County Ground to keep 92 clubs busy, let alone one! Puzzling.

You’d think so wouldn’t you? However, Pakistan are in the Commonwealth and by that association there must be official government immigration/employment quangos whereby individuals can get a work visa under special circumstances or some such arrangement. An obvious question to put to the club via the truth and reconciliation board.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 09:19:09
Batch posted this on Twitter I think -

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/931697-swindon-town-fc-to-train-pakistani-coaches-under-15-kids

Probably poses more questions rather than answers, who is the noticeably unnamed Pakistani friend, with Austin's track record that sets my eyebrows arching, is there a large Pakistani community in Swindon as that might explain it?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 09:20:32
just to add I don't have a problem with the idea

I just have questions about not finding the club anywhere online, scratching head at costs  in the current environment and yes the work permit.

it was suggested by someone on Twitter that it's a new club ..

I'm any case the club comms haven't really been brilliant on the above


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 09:27:47
just to add I don't have a problem with the idea

I just have questions about not finding the club anywhere online, scratching head at costs  in the current environment and yes the work permit.

it was suggested by someone on Twitter that it's a new club ..

I'm any case the club comms haven't really been brilliant on the above

I'm inclined to agree Batch. If this is such an exciting opportunity for the club, why not put out proper communications about it so as to allay any fears. So things like.

* Clarification of how much money will be spent on this 'project'. Clearly as fans refunds STILL haven't been settled it would be good to get this clarified.

* What are the benefits of this, both tangible and intangible? Why hasn't the bit about taking two 15 year old players from Pakistan to train with us for 2 years been mentioned on the comms?

* Who are Karachi Football club? If they are a new club then why not state as such and clarify that they intend to use it as an exciting opportunity to work with them.

It's a little bit woolly and whilst it's probably grossly unfair to cast aspersions on Zav Austin, it does seem to be a little bit smoke and mirrors.  Perhaps it will all become clear in the next board minutes.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 09:33:07
re: refunds. they are processing them now though it seems hit and miss if you have been contacted.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 09:38:13
re: refunds. they are processing them now though it seems hit and miss if you have been contacted.

It will be good, certainly for club PR bearing in mind the feeling about things on the field, to get that resolved. I guess they have to as well prior to putting on sale Season tickets for next season.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 12:26:58
latest advisory board

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2022/february/stfc-advisory-board-minutes-now-available/


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Hyabb17 on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 12:29:03
latest advisory board

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2022/february/stfc-advisory-board-minutes-now-available/

I see we've paid the ''EFL Hardship loan'' back. Must have been from the City revenue gained.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 12:43:48
I see we've paid the ''EFL Hardship loan'' back. Must have been from the City revenue gained.

Was that the loan that was keeping us in Embargo?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 12:50:33
Isn’t that the Monitored Loan?

2 things for me. Only Jewel left when it comes to sorting old contracts.

Price has been agreed between the JV and SBC for the purchase of the CG.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Hyabb17 on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 13:16:43
Isn’t that the Monitored Loan?

2 things for me. Only Jewel left when it comes to sorting old contracts.

Price has been agreed between the JV and SBC for the purchase of the CG.

If they win the other disputes that knocks a further 500K off the debt.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 13:23:12
Also, Clem v Able put back until July.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Crackity Jones on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 13:32:51
Do we know when Power Vs Standing is going to be heard


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 13:46:02
Also, Clem v Able put back until July.

Is it, one slide says march, another says July


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Crispy on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 13:58:38
latest advisory board

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2022/february/stfc-advisory-board-minutes-now-available/

Banning fans for persistent standing in the South Stand is nothing short of daft. I'd understand if those doing so were smack bang in the middle of the block, but, they're not. They're either at the very back or the front with their backs to a wall. Legally speaking, the Town End is all seater isn't it? Appreciate these would be club bans as opposed to court enforced ones as they'd never go through unless the Town End has has its regulations changed? They're picking on a select few with the help of GWR. Bullies.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Posh Red on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 13:59:46
latest advisory board

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2022/february/stfc-advisory-board-minutes-now-available/

Is the  "Swindon Town Community Mutual Limited" different than a membership of the Trust?

If so, does anyone know how do you get a share in it?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 14:04:45
It's the Trust, that's just the registered company name. Bit less catchy.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 14:14:43
Banning fans for persistent standing in the South Stand is nothing short of daft. I'd understand if those doing so were smack bang in the middle of the block, but, they're not. They're either at the very back or the front with their backs to a wall. Legally speaking, the Town End is all seater isn't it? Appreciate these would be club bans as opposed to court enforced ones as they'd never go through unless the Town End has has its regulations changed? They're picking on a select few with the help of GWR. Bullies.

Is it related to this? 'People standing in the Don Rogers stand (block D6U) for whole game. Reports of people being injured, scared and unsafe from drunk fans standing'.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Crackity Jones on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 14:16:42
I also recall the issue being something to do with the gradient of the DRS as well but I could be talking more bollocks than usual


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Crispy on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 14:17:26
Is it related to this? 'People standing in the Don Rogers stand (block D6U) for whole game. Reports of people being injured, scared and unsafe from drunk fans standing'.

The main ones I'm referring too in as far as being picked on are in the Lower D7.. I think? Defo one of the Lower blocks.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Posh Red on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 14:19:53
It's the Trust, that's just the registered company name. Bit less catchy.

Cheers, will contact the Trust to see how to get involved then.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 14:29:48
Is it related to this? 'People standing in the Don Rogers stand (block D6U) for whole game. Reports of people being injured, scared and unsafe from drunk fans standing'.

I'm in that block, not drunk or standing I hasten to add, and a steward had to clamber up the steps a couple of times at last home game to tell people to sit down right at the back.
The response was "but we're at the back".


Title: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 14:32:03
the stewards have been more active going right to the back of the DRS to tell the 3 people standing up to sit down. Which when you've got the entire town end standing takes the piss.

We've all gone soft, in days gone by "stand up if you love swindon" would have been the standard response. pah.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 14:37:47
the stewards have been more active going right to the back of the DRS to tell the 3 people standing up to sit down. Which when you've got the entire town end standing takes the piss.

We've all gone soft, in days gone by "stand up if you love swindon" would have been the standard response. pah.

It does and it doesn’t take the piss, the DR is a dedicated seating stand. The TE is a standing terrace now with seating and the DR is bloody steeper if you go over, downwards. Get your point but to there is a difference.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JanAirplaneMan on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 14:46:03
Do we know when Power Vs Standing is going to be heard

Latest date was May this year but it maybe moved again who knows.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: MangoRed on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 14:49:05
The main ones I'm referring too in as far as being picked on are in the Lower D7.. I think? Defo one of the Lower blocks.

The heavies come and Turfed them out against Northampton didn’t they? Bizarre really. If your on a back wall, you’re in nobodies way. People been standing on that wall and back of DRS for donkeys years.

Bizarre that they decide to pick on the same lads that they want to picture and post on official socials claiming “these limbs” and “scenes like this” to promote ticket sales or milk a win.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 14:49:46
Quote from: Legends-Lounge
It does and it doesn’t take the piss, the DR is a dedicated seating stand. The TE is a standing terrace now with seating and the DR is bloody steeper if you go over, downwards. Get your point but to there is a difference.


let's hope Swindon don't score Saturday or it could be curtains for the lot of us :)

I don't think the club have a choice given there is the threat of reduced capacity.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 14:58:02

I don't think the club have a choice given there is the threat of reduced capacity.

That's it in a nutshell yes!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 15:02:11
Banning fans for persistent standing in the South Stand is nothing short of daft. I'd understand if those doing so were smack bang in the middle of the block, but, they're not. They're either at the very back or the front with their backs to a wall. Legally speaking, the Town End is all seater isn't it? Appreciate these would be club bans as opposed to court enforced ones as they'd never go through unless the Town End has has its regulations changed? They're picking on a select few with the help of GWR. Bullies.

Totally agree.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 15:05:14

let's hope Swindon don't score Saturday or it could be curtains for the lot of us :)

I don't think the club have a choice given there is the threat of reduced capacity.

Is it because the DRS is such a steep stand that standing anywhere in it (regardless of whether it's the back row or not) is deemed as a 'health and safety hazard'? Where has the threat of reduced capacity come from?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: fuzzy on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 15:29:26
I regularly get my view blocked by folk standing in the DRS and they often take offence at being asked to sit down.

Folk go to the DRS because they want to sit. If you want to stand, go to the Town End.

I suppose standing at the back row or two of the DRS should be tolerated (not allowed until Safe Standing is installed). Also, if you are at a seat and someone behind you asks you to sit down so they can see, do so- don't be a cunt about it. A lot of folk sit because they have to.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 15:32:20
I regularly get my view blocked by folk standing in the DRS and they often take offence at being asked to sit down.

Folk go to the DRS because they want to sit. If you want to stand, go to the Town End.

I suppose standing at the back row or two of the DRS should be tolerated (not allowed until Safe Standing is installed). Also, if you are at a seat and someone behind you asks you to sit down so they can see, do so- don't be a cunt about it. A lot of folk sit because they have to.

That's fair enough I think (your comments)

I've only seen people stand at the back from my seat.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 16:01:53
What do people suppose the club do then? They are being told that if people keep doing it they have to shut part of the stand down. Just fucking sit down or sit in the Town end.

The club have said as much in that they are being told by stadium safety that the DRS is too steep to allow it but as Batch said, they don't move the people in the Town End. It's clearly not the clubs decision


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 16:02:36
Is it because the DRS is such a steep stand that standing anywhere in it (regardless of whether it's the back row or not) is deemed as a 'health and safety hazard'? Where has the threat of reduced capacity come from?


From the most recent advisory board minutes;

4.9 RA explained that the issue with persistent standing is much greater in the Don Rogers stand due to the steepness of this stand. The Sports Ground Safety Authority (SGSA) has warned the Club that if it does not take action against persistent standing in the Don Rogers stand then the capacity of the stand will be reduced. The Safety Advisory Group (local Council) are also looking at this issue closely, which means the Club need to actively encourage all supporters to remain seated in this stand.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 16:18:46
It's a pity they can't make the front section of the DRS a safe standing zone, it's only about 6 rows. Increase the capacity a bit too.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 16:21:14
I regularly get my view blocked by folk standing in the DRS and they often take offence at being asked to sit down.

Folk go to the DRS because they want to sit. If you want to stand, go to the Town End.

I suppose standing at the back row or two of the DRS should be tolerated (not allowed until Safe Standing is installed). Also, if you are at a seat and someone behind you asks you to sit down so they can see, do so- don't be a cunt about it. A lot of folk sit because they have to.

Yep, that's completely out of order fuzzy. You shouldn't have to have your view blocked by someone who is refusing to sit down, that's just being a selfish cunt.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 16:28:31
They wouldn't do it to Audrey  :)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 16:54:02
The bloke behind me in the DRS is a miserable cunt and keeps asking me to sit down, ruining my experience every week.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Arriba on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 16:56:02
I regularly get my view blocked by folk standing in the DRS and they often take offence at being asked to sit down.

Folk go to the DRS because they want to sit. If you want to stand, go to the Town End.

I suppose standing at the back row or two of the DRS should be tolerated (not allowed until Safe Standing is installed). Also, if you are at a seat and someone behind you asks you to sit down so they can see, do so- don't be a cunt about it. A lot of folk sit because they have to.

Completely agree with the above. Why go in that stand if you want to stand up. Doesn't make sense to me.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: fuzzy on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 17:05:06
The bloke behind me in the DRS is a miserable cunt and keeps asking me to sit down, ruining my experience every week.

 :smugfu:


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 17:47:47
If you want to stand, go to the Town End.

I suppose standing at the back row or two of the DRS should be tolerated (not allowed until Safe Standing is installed). Also, if you are at a seat and someone behind you asks you to sit down so they can see, do so- don't be a cunt about it. A lot of folk sit because they have to.

This is the take you'd expect from anyone being reasonable.

Going forward if we're remodeling that the stand with exec boxes, etc. I'd like to see safe standing/rail seats considered even if only a very small amount in the bottom tier on the wide blocks. It would easily resolve all this.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Million Pound Man on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 21:39:31
steep gradient. what a load of fucking bollocks. stand has been there since the mid90s and people have stood there since inception- where have the safety concerns been in the last 1/4 century+? 

same cunts crying over standing in a seated area are the ones who probably wank themselves silly harping on about stands like the Kop / Stretford End... which are also all seater.  the Town End is also legally a seating area btw.

reduced capacity wont be an issue- the way its going we'll have more empty seats than occupied ones very soon.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 22:53:05
The bloke behind me in the DRS is a miserable cunt and keeps asking me to sit down, ruining my experience every week.

If your post is serious and you’re not trying to ‘whoosh’ folks who are not up to speed with modern ‘cyber piss taking’ then I’d could equally be said you’re and inconsiderate cunt.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: DiV on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 22:59:07
Do you even need to ask?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Thursday, February 10, 2022, 23:12:37
Quote from: Legends-Lounge
If your post is serious and you’re not trying to ‘whoosh’ folks who are not up to speed with modern ‘CY er piss taking’ then I’d could equally be said you’re and inconsiderate cunt.

oh LL, you're better than that!

somebody said their view was getting blocked by people standing.... hence this


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: MangoRed on Friday, February 11, 2022, 00:22:36
Do you even need to ask?

Oh dear LL.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Friday, February 11, 2022, 06:56:31
Oh dear LL.

What?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Red Frog on Friday, February 11, 2022, 08:16:17
steep gradient. what a load of fucking bollocks. stand has been there since the mid90s and people have stood there since inception- where have the safety concerns been in the last 1/4 century+? 

same cunts crying over standing in a seated area are the ones who probably wank themselves silly harping on about stands like the Kop / Stretford End... which are also all seater.  the Town End is also legally a seating area btw.

reduced capacity wont be an issue- the way its going we'll have more empty seats than occupied ones very soon.

Have a go on this one LL.  ;)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Tails on Friday, February 11, 2022, 09:09:34
Hopefully the club will realise there is an appetite for standing and incorporate safe standing into any new / rebuilt stands. A bigger Town End with safe standing would be a good idea IMO.

I'm not really sure why people are getting so aggravated about this, though. It's pretty clear they've been instructed to get people to sit the fuck down and if people aren't gonna comply what else can they do? I imagine most of those threatened with bans will probably shit themselves anyway and move to the Town End or do as they're told. Having said that I hope the bans aren't too lengthy.

I do wonder if feeling towards the club coincides with current form.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JoeMezz on Friday, February 11, 2022, 10:20:49
Like others have mentioned... I don't see what else the club can do. I honestly doubt the club would care that much, but when you're faced with sanctions, you have to show as a club that you are trying to take measures to get people to sit.

I'd love to be able to drink alcohol in my seat, but rules permit that I cannot. Can't see why this is causing such a stir


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: fuzzy on Friday, February 11, 2022, 10:40:04
Like others have mentioned... I don't see what else the club can do. I honestly doubt the club would care that much, but when you're faced with sanctions, you have to show as a club that you are trying to take measures to get people to sit.

I'd love to be able to drink alcohol in my seat, but rules permit that I cannot. Can't see why this is causing such a stir

Because some folk truly detest being told what to do.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, February 11, 2022, 10:43:52
Because some folk truly detest being told what to do.

Well these is an easy solution then, don't go to matches, we all have to do things we don't want to, its part of being a grown up!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Posh Red on Friday, February 11, 2022, 10:48:05
Hopefully they will be equally as stringent on those people who want to leave early and then block the aisles & exits.  ;)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, February 11, 2022, 10:52:55
Hopefully they will be equally as stringent on those people who want to leave early and then block the aisles & exits.  ;)

Gotta beat the traffic!  ;)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Friday, February 11, 2022, 11:37:11
Hopefully they will be equally as stringent on those people who want to leave early and then block the aisles & exits.  ;)

God that's annoying, 5 minutes before half time and from 10 minutes before the end.

I get it if we are being dicked, but this is win, lose or draw.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Friday, February 11, 2022, 11:39:45
Can't see why this is causing such a stir

Are the time of said steward (only) doing his job, the whole Town End, most of the away sections in the Arkells and Bank were stood up too.

Now its has been explicitly pointed out the H&S jobsworths are watching the DRS with the threat of a reduced capacity the result people may be more understanding.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, February 11, 2022, 11:59:32
Everyone should be issued with club machetes upon entering the CG.

Dog eat dog


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Friday, February 11, 2022, 13:06:40
Hopefully they will be equally as stringent on those people who want to leave early and then block the aisles & exits.  ;)

This 100000000000000%


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Red Frog on Friday, February 11, 2022, 13:15:38
Hopefully they will be equally as stringent on those people who want to leave early and then block the aisles & exits.  ;)

Can we avoid "equally as" please? The "as" is redundant. Cheers.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: tans on Friday, February 11, 2022, 13:20:58
Everyone should be issued with club machetes upon entering the CG.

Dog eat dog

Talk talk said he had one once to a steward, i think he got banned for it? Someone will correct me im sure

God rest his soul


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Friday, February 11, 2022, 13:28:00
Talk talk said he had one once to a steward, i think he got banned for it? Someone will correct me im sure

God rest his soul

I'm sure that's true. The day he couldn't get in because his "press pass" had expired


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, February 28, 2022, 17:01:44
So accounts for Seebeck 87 have been lodged, and to my only minor informed eye they don't say a great deal. However, one thing caught my eye...

They are prepared by an SRC Time Ltd company (accountants and tax advisors) from Brighton, I had a vague recollection that the accountant guy who was involved with Power and/or Standing (I think he was Hardings representative on the board at one stage*) was an accountant from Brighton and a quick google confirms that said guy is a director of this company, Stephen Crouch.

One would hope/assume that its just ease using the same accountant who has handled a shell company since its inception, but anything coincidental WRT STFC gets my eyebrows all a twitch.

* Yeah he was - https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/18463345.swindon-towns-lee-power-taken-court-club-sale/


Title: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Monday, February 28, 2022, 17:54:01
used to be a director


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, March 1, 2022, 10:08:19
Every time I see Powers picture on the Adver site I judder and fear the worst.

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/19958604.swindon-town-winding-up-petition-delayed-july/


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, March 1, 2022, 10:12:34
Every time I see Powers picture on the Adver site I judder and fear the worst.

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/19958604.swindon-town-winding-up-petition-delayed-july/

I get the feeling that the Able case just may end up being dropped. We can only hope for the good of the club that the case is as flimsy as we hope and by using a top draw legal firm to challenge and defend the case they will quietly drop this. How many times has this been put back now?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, March 1, 2022, 10:23:34
Every time I see Powers picture on the Adver site I judder and fear the worst.

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/19958604.swindon-town-winding-up-petition-delayed-july/

Always brings this chap to mind.
 
(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/921140112565645312/LTdbXx1K_400x400.jpg)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, March 1, 2022, 10:28:56
Who is it? Familiar but not 100% sure.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, March 1, 2022, 10:29:36
Always brings this chap to mind.
 
(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/921140112565645312/LTdbXx1K_400x400.jpg)
Si barone!

I get the feeling that the Able case just may end up being dropped. We can only hope for the good of the club that the case is a flimsy as we hope and by using a top draw legal firm to challenge and defend the case they will quietly drop this. How many times has this been put back now?
Thats my thoughts too, maybe if Able actually came forward and were open about who they are then it may be taken more seriously, as it stands I am 100% certain its just another incarnation of Lee Power Enterprises.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, March 1, 2022, 10:30:51
Who is it? Familiar but not 100% sure.

Baron Silas Greenback  (Dangermous)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, March 1, 2022, 10:32:55
Baron Silas Greenback  (Dangermous)

Thanks, I know I have seen the character but Dangermouse was not one of my tv interests but thanks anyway.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, March 1, 2022, 10:47:11
Thats my thoughts too, maybe if Able actually came forward and were open about who they are then it may be taken more seriously, as it stands I am 100% certain its just another incarnation of Lee Power Enterprises.

The issue is going to be how much of our legal costs can be claimed back if the Able claim is knocked back, otherwise at the rates top QC's charge it could end up cheaper to settle than fight!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, March 1, 2022, 10:54:23
The issue is going to be how much of our legal costs can be claimed back if the Able claim is knocked back, otherwise at the rates top QC's charge it could end up cheaper to settle than fight!

That is a worry, however, maybe the club are uber confident of a victory and would rather spend £100-300k on legal fees to make a point rather than roll over and pay it which I would assume could be seen as an admission of guilt (Prince Andrew) and anyway they’re paying legal costs for the claim against us. A war of attrition if you will?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, March 1, 2022, 11:01:34
Not sure Power has the funds to fight it legally, if he loses then he won't be able to afford to pay fees and costs, sucha s hame if that were to happen. Couldnt happen to a nicer bloke.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JBZ on Tuesday, March 1, 2022, 11:21:07
The issue is going to be how much of our legal costs can be claimed back if the Able claim is knocked back, otherwise at the rates top QC's charge it could end up cheaper to settle than fight!

I understand that the parties' costs have been budgeted. Costs budgeting usually applies to these types of cases.

If the court makes a costs order, the receiving party should get most of their costs (assuming the paying party has the means to pay).


EDIT: I have twigged that the debate relates to the winder, rather than the Power ats Standing litigation.  If the petition is dismissed, the debtor should have an order for costs.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JBZ on Tuesday, March 1, 2022, 11:27:13
I get the feeling that the Able case just may end up being dropped. We can only hope for the good of the club that the case is as flimsy as we hope and by using a top draw legal firm to challenge and defend the case they will quietly drop this. How many times has this been put back now?

As I understand it, the reasons why the hearing of the petition has been "put back" are not known.  Adjournments can happen for a number of reasons, often unrelated to the substantive merits of a case.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JanAirplaneMan on Tuesday, March 1, 2022, 11:42:22
Able suggested the money they lent the club pre purchase was a loan, that's not the clubs understanding. Clubs legal fees are ramping up on this issue as well as other legal cases, you have to ask yourself whether you keep fighting and ramp up more legal costs or you cut your loses on these court cases..

Lots of talk of Able, Why might you think Able may not want to come forward and be open and have been shaded in mystery and who are backing Able.. ??? I think you will find Able to be a group mostly of UK individuals known to the club very well (or at least 2 of them are), plus a few ex business partners of one of the people known well to the club what might have been involved with a failed football programme business some years back, with an agreement with someone from the US who is the mystery face of Able, not that we have ever heard or seen that face.
Also AC sports has been mentioned too as a name of the business, well take the letters of that and apply to one of the people rumored to be involved in the club behind the scenes over the last few years and that's 1 of the ex club folk behind able..

The question has to be though why would they do this and form Able to buy the club all done in a very stealth manner.. maybe they wanted to buy the club out of admin to get it on the cheap and rid themselves of some of the debts.. not sure we will ever know the full details..

I see the court case disappearing soon, key will be legal costs v actually being worth the effort and costs of regaining their rumored "loan"..

Anyway all very odd..


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JBZ on Tuesday, March 1, 2022, 11:51:07
It can often be the case that the costs of the proceedings become the main driver. 


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, March 1, 2022, 12:04:05
Presume if verdict goes in the club’s favour legal costs would be paid by the losing party, i.e. Power.

I think we all knew Able was a Trojan Horse set up designed, no doubt, to rid the club of Standing’s debt by means of going into admin.

It was so satisfying to see the fat slug getting peanuts from the club sale.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Tuesday, March 1, 2022, 19:20:36
Able suggested the money they lent the club pre purchase was a loan, that's not the clubs understanding. Clubs legal fees are ramping up on this issue as well as other legal cases, you have to ask yourself whether you keep fighting and ramp up more legal costs or you cut your loses on these court cases..

Lots of talk of Able, Why might you think Able may not want to come forward and be open and have been shaded in mystery and who are backing Able.. ??? I think you will find Able to be a group mostly of UK individuals known to the club very well (or at least 2 of them are), plus a few ex business partners of one of the people known well to the club what might have been involved with a failed football programme business some years back, with an agreement with someone from the US who is the mystery face of Able, not that we have ever heard or seen that face.
Also AC sports has been mentioned too as a name of the business, well take the letters of that and apply to one of the people rumored to be involved in the club behind the scenes over the last few years and that's 1 of the ex club folk behind able..

The question has to be though why would they do this and form Able to buy the club all done in a very stealth manner.. maybe they wanted to buy the club out of admin to get it on the cheap and rid themselves of some of the debts.. not sure we will ever know the full details..

I see the court case disappearing soon, key will be legal costs v actually being worth the effort and costs of regaining their rumored "loan"..

Anyway all very odd..
Isn't power on record in court also saying it was non-refundable


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, March 1, 2022, 19:26:35
I'm sure he is.

I'm not sure it's worth much in terms of defending the case. But JBZ would know


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JBZ on Tuesday, March 1, 2022, 20:43:39
I'm sure he is.

I'm not sure it's worth much in terms of defending the case. But JBZ would know

I am not sure that Power has given oral/written evidence on behalf of the petitioner but I don't know any of the detail.

I note that the Evening Advertiser state in a recent article:-

"But representing Swindon Town Football Company Ltd, the company behind the club, at the hearing, Jessica Powers said there was evidence that the loan agreement was varied and the money was repaid to a petitioner who attempted to purchase the club."


This suggests there was a loan, the terms of which changed at some point and this was repaid. 


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: dalumpimunki on Tuesday, March 1, 2022, 20:49:34
Thanks, I know I have seen the character but Dangermouse was not one of my tv interests but thanks anyway.

I know we agree on pretty much nothing except the natural superiority of the mighty STFC, but this is going too far. To be so dismissive of Terry Scott's finest hour.

Really......you're just dead to me from now on.....


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, March 1, 2022, 20:56:43
I know we agree on pretty much nothing except the natural superiority of the mighty STFC, but this is going too far. To be so dismissive of Terry Scott's finest hour.

Really......you're just dead to me from now on.....

Thank fuck for that 😉 one less Christmas and birthday present to buy.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Wednesday, March 2, 2022, 01:12:06
*Grits toady teeth*

BG: I'll get you next time...DANGERR MOUSE!!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Who knew Ben Garner was the arch villain of our favourite cartoon mau5 (after that little cunt Jerry)!?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, March 2, 2022, 09:37:14
I know we agree on pretty much nothing except the natural superiority of the mighty STFC, but this is going too far. To be so dismissive of Terry Scott's finest hour.

Really......you're just dead to me from now on.....

I was a huge Dangermouse fan as a kid. You could imagine my joy turn to misery when I turned on the TV to watch and the Scottish fuckers would show the gaelic version 'Donnie Murdo'. They did the same with Fireman Sam - 'Sam Smalaidh'

www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-5hll715_s

edit - dunno why the video isn't working but if you can be arsed putting 'Donnie Murdo' into Youtube you'll get the theme tune dubbed into gaelic.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, March 8, 2022, 18:55:40
The potential sale of the County Ground is being heard next Wednesday.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, March 9, 2022, 07:44:24
Supposedly, this is the timeframe



Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, March 9, 2022, 09:31:31
At least someone at the Council has a sense of humour, albeit if they were a proper Town fan they would have released this on a Friday!

https://twitter.com/SwindonCouncil/status/1501270847381721089

So the agreed sale price is a cool £2.3m (plus VAT)

Supposedly, this is the timeframe

Bloody hell £1m on the Stratton Bank isn't going to go far!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Saxondale on Wednesday, March 9, 2022, 09:33:39
Luckily we know a plumber who'll do it on the cheap.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, March 9, 2022, 09:37:08
Some interesting snippets:

'It is proposed that funds for the stadium purchase will be supplied to the JV by the Trustees of the late Nigel Eady, who was a lifelong supporter of STFC and left a substantial trust fund to benefit the Club. The process of transferring the required funding is understood to be complicated. In the event that for any reason the funding is not made available by the Trustees, the funding will be provided by the Club and guaranteed by the Club Chairman.'

'The Council would have the option to buy back the freehold in the event that the JV had not commenced the Stadium Development Plan 3 years from the JV acquiring the freehold. This would require confirmation of funding for the whole Stratton Bank redevelopment, placing of the works contract and commencement of work on site has all been achieved to confirm that redevelopment has commenced. On the basis that one of the benefits to the Council in considering a sale of the freehold is the opportunity for funding to be generated for improvements, it is considered reasonable that if improvements don’t take place, the Council can re-acquire the site for the sale price, or the market value at the time, whichever is the lower. Additionally the Council would have the first opportunity to buy back the freehold if the JV wanted to dispose of its interest at a future date.'


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, March 9, 2022, 09:45:09
Is the hotel/conference centre going to be incorporated 'in' the Town End development?
Should be quite a meaty stand I that's the case. Does the ground purchase include the car park?
The Stratton Bank million must be for a new crapper and a bolt on roof, stick the away fans.

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/19979260.swindon-town-reveal-plan-22-5m-redevelopment-county-ground/


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: tans on Wednesday, March 9, 2022, 09:55:40
No plans to redevelop the Arkells though


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, March 9, 2022, 10:07:18
Be nice to see an artists impression.

Don’t know how much of the £20m on a new TE will go towards the actual stand. I think at present the build cost is approx £3k per seat. So say, £15m would  equate to a 5,000-seater stand.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, March 9, 2022, 10:10:05
No plans to redevelop the Arkells though

Well not in the next 5 years anyway - I would expect that would be the next steps.  I guess they can't redevelop the current conferencing facilities until the new conference facilities are available..


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, March 9, 2022, 10:30:55
Is the hotel/conference centre going to be incorporated 'in' the Town End development?
Should be quite a meaty stand I that's the case. Does the ground purchase include the car park?
The Stratton Bank million must be for a new crapper and a bolt on roof, stick the away fans.

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/19979260.swindon-town-reveal-plan-22-5m-redevelopment-county-ground/

If you look on here Agenda item 12 has the committee report and a plan showing what is being bought (opens as a PDF) http://ww5.swindon.gov.uk/moderngov/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=285&MId=10465&Ver=4

Also includes all the land between the back of the DRS and the road, not sure if that could be built upon, does it have some sort of open land designation (No idea just OTTOMH).


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, March 9, 2022, 10:43:23
So the lot includes the land right up to the Magic Roundabout. Good stuff.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, March 9, 2022, 10:46:54
Be nice to see an artists impression.

Don’t know how much of the £20m on a new TE will go towards the actual stand. I think at present the build cost is approx £3k per seat. So say, £15m would  equate to a 5,000-seater stand.

I don't think anything has got that far yet, that Advertiser piece is just a result of someone reading the Committee Report on the Council website, they are no doubt now scanning this website so they can run a follow up supporter reaction piece!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: tans on Wednesday, March 9, 2022, 11:43:01
Well not in the next 5 years anyway - I would expect that would be the next steps.  I guess they can't redevelop the current conferencing facilities until the new conference facilities are available..

Good point


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Wednesday, March 9, 2022, 13:03:51
Well not in the next 5 years anyway - I would expect that would be the next steps.  I guess they can't redevelop the current conferencing facilities until the new conference facilities are available..

At that point they might not even need that much conference facilities. They may want to utilise the Arkells Stand space for something else.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Sippo on Wednesday, March 9, 2022, 13:04:31
Bring back the casino plans.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Wednesday, March 9, 2022, 13:07:54
Bring back the casino plans.

A casino would do decent business in this town, you would have to say. I'm surprised no one has turned Brunel Rooms in to one at any point.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, March 9, 2022, 13:36:45
Well not in the next 5 years anyway - I would expect that would be the next steps.  I guess they can't redevelop the current conferencing facilities until the new conference facilities are available..

Yeah I’ve assumed the logic is to build new stuff in a different stand so you can continue to use the current facilities whilst the new ones are being built. Then once you have the new ones to take over from the old ones you can do what you like with the old area.

Obviously the stand is dated but all the club offices and what not are in there. They’d all need re-homing before we could work on that stand.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, March 9, 2022, 15:09:34
Obviously the stand is dated but all the club offices and what not are in there. They’d all need re-homing before we could work on that stand.

I confess I have never set foot in the Arkells (bar via the turnstiles) but I cannot imagine the club offices relates to much more than could be solved with a few Portakabin stacked up.

However looking at the timetable they have proposed looks like a no brainer really, getting the bank tidied up a bit vastly improves the appearance of the place for limited investment, could also possibly provide standing/safe standing temporarily if some fans want it. The DRS boxes are a much needed upgrade and will be good for revenue and again for limited cost.

The TE is probably the jewel in the crown in stand development potential in the short/medium term, plenty of footprint there, comparatively easy in planning terms.

I suppose the two longer terms are re the Arkells less offices more changing rooms and all that jazz, offices could be moved elsewhere on the site in cabins or in parts of the stands, but matchday stuff needs proximity and accessibility to the pitch, I assume our playing facilities are not too bad at this level.

Oh and what if anything can be done with the chunk of land between the DRS and the road? 


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Thursday, March 10, 2022, 02:30:50
...So the agreed sale price is a cool £2.3m (plus VAT)...

TOGC should = No VAT (usually)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, March 10, 2022, 09:00:26
http://ww5.swindon.gov.uk/moderngov/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=285&MId=10465&Ver=4



Link not working for me.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, March 10, 2022, 09:27:49
Link not working for me.

I assume its the Council website as it isn't working for me this morning neither! I originally accessed via the link on this tweet from the Council https://twitter.com/SwindonCouncil/status/1501270847381721089 which is also not working reinforcing its an SBC issue.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, March 10, 2022, 10:03:56
OK cheers


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Berniman on Thursday, March 10, 2022, 10:07:51
Link not working for me.

The WW5 instead of WWW might have something to do with it - are you predicting something here? :D


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Thursday, March 10, 2022, 12:11:19
Has anyone else seen the advert for the 1985 shirt for sale via the terrace store? Already been fleeced by that twat on twitter so do not want to be hoodwinked again. £36 for the shirt with sponsor on but each time I try to progress it crashes. Is it legit????


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Swindon Please Win on Thursday, March 10, 2022, 12:16:54
Has anyone else seen the advert for the 1985 shirt for sale via the terrace store? Already been fleeced by that twat on twitter so do not want to be hoodwinked again. £36 for the shirt with sponsor on but each time I try to progress it crashes. Is it legit????

The Terrace is definitely a legit site, ordered a few things off there and usually is good quality.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Thursday, March 10, 2022, 12:28:20
The Terrace is definitely a legit site, ordered a few things off there and usually is good quality.

Thanks managed to get on to the payment page and took the chance. Good to know it's a legit company thanks.
Can't grumble at £36 for that shirt, my favourite shirt so happy days.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Saxondale on Thursday, March 10, 2022, 12:36:06
The terrace is run by a mate of mine who was many years ago tour manager for Enter Shikari.  He's blotted his copybook in my eyes by taking on the concession at Rovers and banging on constantly about how wonderful they are.  When he's actually a Man United fan.  So Ive had to block his tweets. 

But aside from that he's a thoroughly nice chap and Im glad to see him doing well.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Private Fraser on Thursday, March 10, 2022, 12:44:28
The Club is referring to it as the 1983 shirt, though. The 1983 one was the ISIS one.

https://twitter.com/Official_STFC/status/1501862608416264198?s=20&t=ynH8nR96dOptbsCoqJhmlA


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Thursday, March 10, 2022, 12:45:46
1983 was the LLG shirt.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Private Fraser on Thursday, March 10, 2022, 12:51:59
I was going by this:

http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/Squad.asp?Season=1983-1984

http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/Squad.asp?Season=1985-1986

The Club has now seems to have taken down the Tweet referring to "1983".


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: dalumpimunki on Thursday, March 10, 2022, 19:45:26
1983 was the LLG shirt.

No  LLG came in for Macaris first season. That was 84 / 85. The sponsorship deal was on the basis of a 'name'  manager being appointed, so Beamish was kicked and Lou came in.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, March 15, 2022, 15:26:10
Hmmm...

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/19993735.county-ground-sale-must-protect-swindon-town-unscrupulous-owners/


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, March 15, 2022, 15:45:31
"County Ground sale 'must protect Swindon Town from unscrupulous owners"

I agree, but that isn't what the article says.

"SWINDON Borough Council should look to buy back the County Ground if a £22.5m plan to transform it hasn't started within three years."

Redeveloping the ground is not the only reason we'd like to buy the freehold. They're two separate matters.

I note it's the party not in power saying this. My guess is just making noise for the sake of it to remind people they're there.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Tuesday, March 15, 2022, 15:46:45
Hmmm...

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/19993735.county-ground-sale-must-protect-swindon-town-unscrupulous-owners/
No issues there is there


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, March 15, 2022, 15:50:34
Hmmm...

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/19993735.county-ground-sale-must-protect-swindon-town-unscrupulous-owners/

Surely it's positive isn't it? Means that the plans that have/are being drawn up have to be followed through. Kind of like a use it or lose it type thing? It stops the site just becoming a festering White elephant?

That's how I see it at least.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, March 15, 2022, 16:56:08
Are the Trust/Club plans to begin redevelopment within 3 years?

Not sure I like pre-conditions like that. Do we definitely have the funds?

But if Clem/Trust are happy then fair enough.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, March 15, 2022, 16:58:31
I note it's the party not in power saying this. My guess is just making noise for the sake of it to remind people they're there.

Exactly that, no idea why the Advertiser has even run the story. That really is an absolutely nothing story, the buy back clause is in the contract and discussed in the Committee Report which is being considered at the meeting at 6pm tomorrow. Council website is working again so it can be viewed here https://ww5.swindon.gov.uk/moderngov/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=285&MId=10465&Ver=4 (Item 12).  



Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, March 15, 2022, 17:00:09
Are the Trust/Club plans to begin redevelopment within 3 years?

Not sure I like pre-conditions like that. Do we definitely have the funds?

But if Clem/Trust are happy then fair enough.

Bank supposed to start in 2024 at a cost of £1m, Para 3.11 has a timetable which the JV has provided which the Council can then use to gauge performance, entirely understandable and normal that the Council have sought this.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, March 15, 2022, 17:09:15
What are we going to get, realistically, for £1m?  New seats, a few urinals and a roof?  I'm guessing that the existing structure is staying in some form.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, March 15, 2022, 17:46:19
Never expected anything different. The Bank will be akin to Pompey’s away end.



Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: singingiiiffy on Tuesday, March 15, 2022, 18:01:51
you would assume the bank would be given to home or away fans when nationwide gets redeveloped so that our attendances don't get hit as much


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Wednesday, March 16, 2022, 15:04:06
you would assume the bank would be given to home or away fans when nationwide gets redeveloped so that our attendances don't get hit as much

Home hopefully. Will make a good home end while Town End is knocked and rebuild further down the line too.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, March 16, 2022, 15:07:29
you would assume the bank would be given to home or away fans when nationwide gets redeveloped so that our attendances don't get hit as much

Can't they get it done over the summer?!

I still can't work out where the bleeding boxes would be in row letters.



Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: THE FLASH on Wednesday, March 16, 2022, 15:11:30
Never expected anything different. The Bank will be akin to Pompey’s away end.



that looks smart and big enough for us....atmosphere would improve too with a roof...away fans will make some real noise.

As ever with these things, i will believe it when i see it...


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Wednesday, March 16, 2022, 15:31:26
Can't they get it done over the summer?!

I still can't work out where the bleeding boxes would be in row letters.



I can't quite picture it myself either.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, March 16, 2022, 17:41:49
Not a million miles off where the steps come up to, so the first few rows after the concrete barrier splits the stand.  The ceiling height is around there, and that's the floor of the concourse above.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Summerof69 on Wednesday, March 16, 2022, 18:53:03
There is a mezzanine floor built into the DRS when it was built, so the boxes are planned to use that.

Rumour has is that a previous chairman, who was here for around 6 months, bought a bowling lane and had put it on that mezz floor to use it.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: tans on Wednesday, March 16, 2022, 18:59:44
Council approve the sale of the CG

Goes to be signed off at scrutinee comittee on monday


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Wednesday, March 16, 2022, 19:00:46
Council approve the sale of the CG

Goes to be signed off at scrutinee comittee on monday

That is really positive news 🙏👍


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, March 16, 2022, 19:09:30
Great news!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Summerof69 on Wednesday, March 16, 2022, 19:51:26
Council approve the sale of the CG

Goes to be signed off at scrutinee comittee on monday

Once that is done, there will have to be a 6 week wait under the terms of making the CG an 'Asset of Community Value', so the earliest it will officially go through is May.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Wednesday, March 16, 2022, 20:00:02
Once that is done, there will have to be a 6 week wait under the terms of making the CG an 'Asset of Community Value', so the earliest it will officially go through is May.

I wonder if the Nationwide will give us a mortgage at preferential rates?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, March 17, 2022, 19:57:28
I wonder if the Nationwide will give us a mortgage at preferential rates?

He money seems to be coming from the estate of the late Nigel Eady - we need to ensure the stratton bank is named after this man with the money he has left the club, as the FITC has had money as well towards foundation park and the new area they have purchased.
Dontr get many fans leaving their entire estate to their football team they followed.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JanAirplaneMan on Thursday, March 17, 2022, 21:22:52
The Stratton bank will be renamed the nigel eady stand with a statue yes


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Friday, March 18, 2022, 08:53:50
The Stratton bank will be renamed the nigel eady stand with a statue yes

I Like that very much.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, March 18, 2022, 09:36:39
The Stratton bank will be renamed the nigel eady stand with a statue yes
Excellent.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, March 18, 2022, 10:00:16
The Stratton bank will be renamed the nigel eady stand with a statue yes

It's a bit of a mouthful for a stand name isn't it?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Private Fraser on Friday, March 18, 2022, 10:10:01
It's a bit of a mouthful for a stand name isn't it?

Maybe they could drop the "yes"  :)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Friday, March 18, 2022, 10:19:27
Or the NESWASY stand?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, March 18, 2022, 10:44:11
The Stratton bank will be renamed the nigel eady stand with a statue yes

That's great news. albeit there is a small part of me that thinks it would be a nicer tribute to name the spanking new Town End after the chap rather than what appears to be, at first glance, a pretty rudimentary shed with toilets being placed over the bank?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, March 18, 2022, 10:59:19
That's great news. albeit there is a small part of me that thinks it would be a nicer tribute to name the spanking new Town End after the chap rather than what appears to be, at first glance, a pretty rudimentary shed with toilets being placed over the bank?
Oh you are right but I think its better to get his name on a stand as a priority as a mark of respect for him. Not many fans would ever do something similar.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Friday, March 18, 2022, 11:14:06
Oh you are right but I think its better to get his name on a stand as a priority as a mark of respect for him. Not many fans would ever do something similar.

99% of fans don't have access to that sort of money to be in a position to give so generously, and I think it is great that the club will acknowledge his donation in this way.
If I ever won the lottery I would like to think I would be able to do something similar, otherwise its my money each week only I'm afraid.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Ardiles on Friday, March 18, 2022, 11:16:01
Pleased as I am that something is happening, I do hope that there is also a longer term plan for the Bank.  Some new seats, new toilets and a roof are all we're going to get for £1m.  It will be good for 5 or 10 years.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, March 18, 2022, 11:19:48
99% of fans don't have access to that sort of money to be in a position to give so generously, and I think it is great that the club will acknowledge his donation in this way.
If I ever won the lottery I would like to think I would be able to do something similar, otherwise its my money each week only I'm afraid.
Absolutely agree, I won't see £1million in my entire lifetime go through my hands!

Its an incredibly generous gift and a name I am sure many Town fans (who have no access or forums etc) have probably never even heard of.

The money (@ £2 million) has been left for just over 10 years now and I know the Nigel Eady Trust have been very careful of what they have allowed it to be spent on, and wisely so with a crook like Lee Power in charge for most of that 10 year period.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Friday, March 18, 2022, 11:28:52
Blimey, never realised it amounted to that. Do we know if any of that money will go towards purchasing the fans 50% of the ground?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, March 18, 2022, 11:30:00
Maybe they could drop the "yes"  :)

haha! indeed!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, March 18, 2022, 11:30:28
Or the NESWASY stand?

That does have a strange ring to it that could work!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, March 18, 2022, 11:34:21
Blimey, never realised it amounted to that. Do we know if any of that money will go towards purchasing the fans 50% of the ground?
Yeah that is the figure quoted in the Adver a couple of years ago.

Advert article Feb 2019.
Quote
but the money left by benefactor Eady - understood to be in the region of £2million and ring-fenced for a project that is for the long-term benefit of the football club and wider community - is not involved.

I am sure I heard that it would not go towards the actual buying of the ground but I could be wrong on that, I am sure Jan can enlighten you/us on that.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, March 18, 2022, 11:46:56
Presume the £2m of 10 years ago is now worth considerably more if invested wisely.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, March 18, 2022, 11:50:04
Presume the £2m of 10 years ago is now worth considerably more if invested wisely.
We can certainly hope that.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, March 18, 2022, 12:31:57
I am sure I heard that it would not go towards the actual buying of the ground but I could be wrong on that, I am sure Jan can enlighten you/us on that.

I am probably entirely wrong, but the impression I got from the Councils Committee Report was that the Eady money is going to fund the purchase in some way, however, I had interpreted that as being a short term bridging payment to cover the fans contribution to the purchase cost which will then be repaid by the Trust via their fans programme and the Eady money ultimately used for the wider improvement scheme?

From that report...

'It is proposed that funds for the stadium purchase will be supplied to the JV by the Trustees of the late Nigel Eady, who was a lifelong supporter of STFC and left a substantial trust fund to benefit the Club. The process of transferring the required funding is understood to be complicated. In the event that for any reason the funding is not made available by the Trustees, the funding will be provided by the Club and guaranteed by the Club Chairman.'

But as I started this could just be me bollocking up interpretation!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, March 18, 2022, 12:34:12
You could well be right mate, I am not up to date on the Trust things but I know Jan is.

It does make sense though.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Power to people on Friday, March 18, 2022, 12:38:08
I am probably entirely wrong, but the impression I got from the Councils Committee Report was that the Eady money is going to fund the purchase in some way, however, I had interpreted that as being a short term bridging payment to cover the fans contribution to the purchase cost which will then be repaid by the Trust via their fans programme and the Eady money ultimately used for the wider improvement scheme?

From that report...

'It is proposed that funds for the stadium purchase will be supplied to the JV by the Trustees of the late Nigel Eady, who was a lifelong supporter of STFC and left a substantial trust fund to benefit the Club. The process of transferring the required funding is understood to be complicated. In the event that for any reason the funding is not made available by the Trustees, the funding will be provided by the Club and guaranteed by the Club Chairman.'

But as I started this could just be me bollocking up interpretation!

I read it as the NE money was funding both the club and fan's share of the money (so will cover 100% purchase) so neither side will have to pay anything for the stadium ?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: chalkies shorts on Friday, March 18, 2022, 13:14:42
I read it as the NE money was funding both the club and fan's share of the money (so will cover 100% purchase) so neither side will have to pay anything for the stadium ?
If that's the case then if I was the Nigel eady executors I'd insist on owning the ground. Be a benevolent landlord.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Friday, March 18, 2022, 13:23:00
Quote from: chalkies shorts
If that's the case then if I was the Nigel eady executors I'd insist on owning the ground. Be a benevolent landlord.

if imagine the same has only been agreed on the understanding it's a community joint venture whatsit.

if the Eady trust can't do it (with presumably good reason) it's plan B and Clem puts it in


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: china red on Friday, March 18, 2022, 16:28:35
Bet Pee Lower tried many times to get that money


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, March 18, 2022, 16:37:22
If that's the case then if I was the Nigel eady executors I'd insist on owning the ground. Be a benevolent landlord.

I suspect it entirely depends on the Trust has been set up, there may be reasons why they can't do that.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Oaksey Moonraker on Friday, March 18, 2022, 16:41:41
It would be the ultimate legacy of the Nigel Eady Trust to acquire the ground.

I just wonder how that plays out with getting the supporters trust members to fund as how many will buy their £19.69 shares if the ground purchase is paid for already compared to if the money wasn't there?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Friday, March 18, 2022, 16:46:22
isn't there a minimum number of people needed to sign up?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Friday, March 18, 2022, 16:59:08
2,300 needed to sign up.
Assuming that these FAQ's are still valid.

https://truststfc.tv/previous-faq-related-to-cg-purchase/


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: fuzzy on Friday, March 18, 2022, 17:28:14
That'll be 2,299 then as I'm ready.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Samdy Gray on Friday, March 18, 2022, 18:44:59
I might have missed it, has there been any speculation on who the other party is providing 50% of the money to the Trust?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, March 19, 2022, 17:07:02
Yeah that is the figure quoted in the Adver a couple of years ago.

Advert article Feb 2019.
I am sure I heard that it would not go towards the actual buying of the ground but I could be wrong on that, I am sure Jan can enlighten you/us on that.

Don't forget that £500k (I think) went towards Foundation Park..


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JBZ on Saturday, March 19, 2022, 17:24:12
I hope that we don't get to the stage where this thread is renamed "new beginnings - false start".


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Saturday, March 19, 2022, 19:20:42
I hope that we don't get to the stage where this thread is renamed "new beginnings - false start".

It won’t if you refrain from starting it.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Sunday, March 20, 2022, 09:17:01
I hope that we don't get to the stage where this thread is renamed "new beginnings - false start".

Your avatar is apt.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Sunday, March 20, 2022, 12:54:56
I hope that we don't get to the stage where this thread is renamed "new beginnings - false start".
Why would we


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: tans on Monday, March 21, 2022, 19:17:08
Council approve sale of CG


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Red Frog on Monday, March 21, 2022, 22:37:38
Council approve sale of CG

Like the way this slips through almost unnoticed. We may think of it as a formality, but it is probably the biggest single sentence in my lifetime of supporting this club.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, March 24, 2022, 03:00:03
This from the Trust


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Thursday, March 24, 2022, 08:44:45
I really hope they make the New Town End safe standing.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: donkey on Thursday, March 24, 2022, 09:28:58
I really hope they make the New Town End safe standing.

That would be so awesome.  They need to make sure the design of the stand funnels noise to the pitch, whilst the away end funnels noise away from it.  We need a designed home advantage.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, March 24, 2022, 09:33:39
That would be so awesome.  They need to make sure the design of the stand funnels noise to the pitch, whilst the away end funnels noise away from it.  We need a designed home advantage.

Lean into the wind tunnel - I want to see wind-funnelling pipes in each end stand which can be opened and closed depending on which direction we're playing in.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, March 24, 2022, 09:45:28
This from the Trust


Hotel legends of Swindon, with the Michael Pook ballroom, and the Jamie Cureton suite...


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Thursday, March 24, 2022, 10:10:46
The Sheridan rest room.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Abrahammer on Thursday, March 24, 2022, 10:19:31
The Fatbury Social Media Centre


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Thursday, March 24, 2022, 10:28:23
The Fatbury Social Media Centre

With a guest room called Adele, so Fatbury can be in it. :)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Tails on Thursday, March 24, 2022, 10:33:56
The Fatbury Social Media Centre

He's so upset bless him


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, March 24, 2022, 10:35:33
The Cheese and Whine tasting room - sponsored by Twitter.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Abrahammer on Thursday, March 24, 2022, 10:40:13
He's so upset bless him

I did have a chuckle seeing him moan about not getting that job, apparently the ability to retweet stuff doesn’t make you the social media expert he claims to be.

The female employees at STFC can relax at least


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Red Frog on Thursday, March 24, 2022, 12:59:47
That would be so awesome.  They need to make sure the design of the stand funnels noise to the pitch, whilst the away end funnels noise away from it.  We need a designed home advantage.

Basically the opposite of what West Ham did then.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Thursday, March 24, 2022, 13:03:10
That would be so awesome.  They need to make sure the design of the stand funnels noise to the pitch, whilst the away end funnels noise away from it.  We need a designed home advantage.

+ deployable wind  tunnel effect for Exeter. It could open up like the DRS in F1 spoilers.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Thursday, March 24, 2022, 17:42:26
Have I missed the new capacity?


Title: Re: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Oaksey Moonraker on Thursday, March 24, 2022, 20:03:33
Have I missed the new capacity?
I thought I saw the new Town End would be 5000 seats so must be another 3000+ on the current capacity. Take up to about 17,500 to 18,000.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Private Fraser on Thursday, March 24, 2022, 21:09:23
I think that is pure speculation. At the Trust AGM last night, the Club CEO said that they have yet to ask architects to propose plans for each element of the redevelopment. Oh, and when asked about safe standing, he said they would be considering it but it would reduce capacity and cost more.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Oaksey Moonraker on Thursday, March 24, 2022, 22:26:54
It was the Trust AGM pack that said a new Town End of up to 5000.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: STFC_Manc on Thursday, March 24, 2022, 22:53:15
It was the Trust AGM pack that said a new Town End of up to 5000.

If you look at the top of the page of the pack it does say "DRAFT COUNTY GROUND VISION EXAMPLE", the only thing thats in the contract I believe is the Stratton Bank Development within 3 years.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Red Frog on Friday, March 25, 2022, 09:24:18
It would be a great shame if the new Town End didn't have at least a tier of safe standing, even if it had seats above. Odd that that would reduce capacity, but even then, I'd still be pushing for it.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Friday, March 25, 2022, 09:24:31
What is the Goddard Covenant? Is that where the land has to be used for sporting purposes?
I see a refurb of the Arkells is planned in 25/26.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Friday, March 25, 2022, 09:42:01
What is the Goddard Covenant? Is that where the land has to be used for sporting purposes?
I see a refurb of the Arkells is planned in 25/26.

Yes. It could be overturned and amended to the title deeds, however, it would take a legal process and agreement of the trustees to the Goddard estate to do this, highly, highly unlikely.

The Arkells refurb is an interesting one.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JBZ on Friday, March 25, 2022, 10:24:36
Yes. It could be overturned and amended to the title deeds, however, it would take a legal process and agreement of the trustees to the Goddard estate to do this, highly, highly unlikely.

The Arkells refurb is an interesting one.

Overturned?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Friday, March 25, 2022, 10:30:07
removed, as I'm sure you worked out


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Power to people on Friday, March 25, 2022, 14:14:58
Yes. It could be overturned and amended to the title deeds, however, it would take a legal process and agreement of the trustees to the Goddard estate to do this, highly, highly unlikely.

The Arkells refurb is an interesting one.

It would be to enable the club to add in the things like Hotel, conferencing etc as there is a covenant that says the ground can only be used for sport.

Its obviously many years old and probably needs to be updated, but maybe the problem would be finding out who the trustee's are after all these years.

Now the club will own the whole ground, including car park areas they have the ability to expand out.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Friday, March 25, 2022, 15:22:32
It would be to enable the club to add in the things like Hotel, conferencing etc as there is a covenant that says the ground can only be used for sport.

Its obviously many years old and probably needs to be updated, but maybe the problem would be finding out who the trustee's are after all these years.

Now the club will own the whole ground, including car park areas they have the ability to expand out.

There is a register for trustees to trusts.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Friday, March 25, 2022, 15:56:59
That would be so awesome.  They need to make sure the design of the stand funnels noise to the pitch, whilst the away end funnels noise away from it.  We need a designed home advantage.

Literally any new stadium that boasts about its design helping the atmosphere I've ever seen, has done the opposite. Think they even said it about Wembley in some of the blurb.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: donkey on Friday, March 25, 2022, 20:04:40
Literally any new stadium that boasts about its design helping the atmosphere I've ever seen, has done the opposite. Think they even said it about Wembley in some of the blurb.

Sadly, I agree.  But it is doable, and we must.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, March 25, 2022, 20:20:39
The atmosphere is only as good as the passion from within the stands!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Friday, March 25, 2022, 20:40:18
The atmosphere is only as good as the passion from within the stands!

Spot on Jimbo.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, March 25, 2022, 20:41:09
Spot on Jimbo.
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Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Friday, March 25, 2022, 20:45:33
It was the Trust AGM pack that said a new Town End of up to 5000.

Would seriously have to consider moving back to my beloved childhood.
As long as the flag can be prominently displayed would certainly have to consider it.
If it generated the same atmosphere as a Pompey home match count me in.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, March 25, 2022, 20:53:57
Would seriously have to consider moving back to my beloved childhood.
As long as the flag can be prominently displayed would certainly have to consider it.
If it generated the same atmosphere as a Pompey home match count me in.

I can remember plenty of Pompey in the Townend creating an atmosphere😀


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Friday, March 25, 2022, 20:57:27
Spot on Jimbo.
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 :clap: :clap:]

Nice picture of the Kingfisher’s.
Our Nuthatches nesting in the garden again.

Shot over 150 grey squirrels in the garden now.
All the nest boxes being checked out by the Blue and Great Tits. Incredible amount of birds in the garden, thriving without Magpies and Crows ;)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Friday, March 25, 2022, 21:01:14
I can remember plenty of Pompey in the Townend creating an atmosphere😀

Still enjoy my trips down there. Many happy childhood memories and often still wonder how red was chosen and not blue. Get my loyalty no doubt from that bloodline.
Not many relatives left, just one Auntie and doubt she will ever catch the 6:57 out of Peortsmouth.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, March 25, 2022, 21:27:34
Still enjoy my trips down there. Many happy childhood memories and often still wonder how red was chosen and not blue. Get my loyalty no doubt from that bloodline.
Not many relatives left, just one Auntie and doubt she will ever catch the 6:57 out of Peortsmouth.


What's happening with their new stadium


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Friday, March 25, 2022, 22:04:43

What's happening with their new stadium

Developing Fratton Park.
Trivia- Did you know that Fratton and Portsmouth the most densely populated area in the Country.
You get in when you are around it, jam packed with houses and little space.
Was rough as fuck in the late 70’s unreal poverty and I mean deprived area. The football club was everything to the youth, hence the emergence of the notorious 6:57.
Even now you see some distinctive tattoos on old men with reference to that infamous train. Clearly all in the vaults of history now.
John Westwood though one of the original survivors, harmless but in love with his bell.

Many times I’ve battled with my youngest as in his heart some Pompey.
Has a shirt ffs and wears it. Confession time.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Red Frog on Saturday, March 26, 2022, 10:33:59
Sadly, I agree.  But it is doable, and we must.

If Dortmund can do it, we can.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Pi5LJ7CMs0


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Saturday, March 26, 2022, 15:02:46
removed, as I'm sure you worked out

Just being an irritating knob.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Monday, March 28, 2022, 07:33:55
I see on the official site that several players will be down at Wagamamas on Tuesday after 5pm.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, March 28, 2022, 22:31:09
If we go up this season I suppose the Bank will be closed for refurbishment next season. We’ll be missing out on 2000 away fans from quite a few clubs.

The piss stains won’t be happy with 800 tickets!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Monday, March 28, 2022, 23:57:40
To be fair until they actually started to win games against us after 40 years that's about all they use to bring  :)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Formerly Drummer Boy on Tuesday, March 29, 2022, 00:26:02
If we go up this season I suppose the Bank will be closed for refurbishment next season. We’ll be missing out on 2000 away fans from quite a few clubs.

The piss stains won’t be happy with 800 tickets!

Would rather fill the Bank with Swindon fans than Away fans and limit them all to the smallest possible number of fans, personally. Realistically, that might take a year or two though :)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, March 29, 2022, 07:30:40
Would rather fill the Bank with Swindon fans than Away fans and limit them all to the smallest possible number of fans, personally. Realistically, that might take a year or two though :)

Do what Bristol Rovers did to us 700 tickets no more


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, March 29, 2022, 08:43:48
If we go up this season I suppose the Bank will be closed for refurbishment next season. We’ll be missing out on 2000 away fans from quite a few clubs.

The piss stains won’t be happy with 800 tickets!

Work won't start until the off season at the end of next season.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Grim Reaper on Tuesday, March 29, 2022, 14:32:11
If we go up this season I suppose the Bank will be closed for refurbishment next season. We’ll be missing out on 2000 away fans from quite a few clubs.

The piss stains won’t be happy with 800 tickets!

The Shrivenham Road Stand was demolished and The DRS built in a pre season, I’m sure putting a roof on the bank won’t take as long.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, March 30, 2022, 17:20:38
I would like to see a social club/bar that's open every day incorporated into the stadium somewhere. Not seen anything about whether this will happen myself. Something like Torquay's "Boots and laces" would be decent.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, March 30, 2022, 19:24:56
I am sure Rob Angus mentioned a Sports Bar, or something like that, being on the target list.  Assume for the TE development.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, March 31, 2022, 09:00:46
The Shrivenham Road Stand was demolished and The DRS built in a pre season, I’m sure putting a roof on the bank won’t take as long.

Will all depend on what is actually proposed, perversely it would likely be a lot quicker (Albeit likley more expensive) to drop the lot and start again rather than try and incorporate something into the existing structure/made land of the bank.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Arriba on Thursday, March 31, 2022, 11:15:37
I am sure Rob Angus mentioned a Sports Bar, or something like that, being on the target list.  Assume for the TE development.

That'd be great. Thanks for the information as I'd not seen that.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, March 31, 2022, 11:25:56
That'd be great. Thanks for the information as I'd not seen that.

Given the grounds location do people think a sports bar could be a money spinner outside of STFC game time? Put in a decent burger and chips type of place/Street food and try and make the CG a great social place to go to any time of the week.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Tails on Thursday, March 31, 2022, 11:57:44
Reading have a street food style outside one of their stands selling all types of cuisine and local ales. It's pretty decent tbf. Could easily do something outside the CG.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: pantomime dame on Thursday, March 31, 2022, 12:30:15
Given the grounds location do people think a sports bar could be a money spinner outside of STFC game time? Put in a decent burger and chips type of place/Street food and try and make the CG a great social place to go to any time of the week.
This was tried in the 70's. Well the bar at least. While the Squash club had a loyal,
 lively clientele it never really took off. The Supporters club was a huge area only used Thursday nights for bingo and Friday/ Saturday nights for music.
As for the local area using a burger bar venue that's highly unlikely. Man Rd has the ethnic population covered in venues of all sorts.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: RobertT on Thursday, March 31, 2022, 12:50:22
Don't forget there would be a Hotel providing a constant stream of potential customers as well.  My assumption would be a couple of retail/food options would be added into the TE structure, enabling a mini Greenbridge type of pull (the Cinema side).  It's not going to rely on foot traffic.  Somehow that Burger King continues to survive, even after burning itself to the ground.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bogus Dave on Thursday, March 31, 2022, 13:14:25
There isn’t a good sports bar in the town. The location is a little bit out of the way but not hugely so -  no reason a moderate sized fully committed sports bar couldn’t be a success


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, March 31, 2022, 13:19:49
There isn’t a good sports bar in the town. The location is a little bit out of the way but not hugely so -  no reason a moderate sized fully committed sports bar couldn’t be a success

I don't know Swindon at all but that was my understanding. I reckon if we build it they would come.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, March 31, 2022, 14:21:40
Be nice to attract non Swindon fans to come along to the CG. You never know, some of them may be tempted to go to a game or two.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Thursday, March 31, 2022, 17:05:05
Or stay aways  ;)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, March 31, 2022, 17:52:14
Don't forget there would be a Hotel providing a constant stream of potential customers as well.

If its one of the budget operators it will invariably come with a tagged on Costa (or equivalent) anyway.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Thursday, March 31, 2022, 18:47:10
Don't forget there would be a Hotel providing a constant stream of potential customers as well.  My assumption would be a couple of retail/food options would be added into the TE structure, enabling a mini Greenbridge type of pull (the Cinema side).  It's not going to rely on foot traffic.  Somehow that Burger King continues to survive, even after burning itself to the ground.
I would imagine a few local restaurants would use a few units


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Oaksey Moonraker on Thursday, March 31, 2022, 18:58:18
The Sports bar seems to work at Ashton Gate for England games during the Euros and they seem to fill it for other games.

Ashton Gate isn't exactly in the upmarket, social part of Bristol but has become a focal point.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: RobertT on Thursday, March 31, 2022, 21:07:44
I presume the plan would likely be to act as a Landlord and lease out units, removing some of that Operational risk.  Just look at the Regents Circus development, Morrisons are still paying a pretty penny for years to come on the shop they vacated.  The operating unit does not need to be a success once you have a tenant by the short and curlies.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Thursday, March 31, 2022, 22:19:51
I presume the plan would likely be to act as a Landlord and lease out units, removing some of that Operational risk.  Just look at the Regents Circus development, Morrisons are still paying a pretty penny for years to come on the shop they vacated.  The operating unit does not need to be a success once you have a tenant by the short and curlies.

That is true.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Friday, April 1, 2022, 05:51:35
I'm hearing that the club are having second thoughts about the hotel & conferencing idea.
Now exploring the idea of having an authentic Australian pub, one of the big ones with 3 storeys, balconies & art deco frontage etc.
Discussions ongoing about whether the grassed area in front of the TE could be used as a beer garden in the summer months.

Also looking to revisit the casino concept as well, this time incorporating an upmarket gentleman's & ladies club.

I'm told that the information is reliable but could change after today.



Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Lardy Cake on Friday, April 1, 2022, 06:32:13
Interesting that Arriba mentions the Boots and Laces Sports Bar at Torquay United. I lived a few 100 yards away for several years about 10 years ago and was a regular most weekends. During the days of Paul Buckle and Chairman Colin Lee Boots and Laces was loosing the club a lot of money when it was run "in-house" so the club farmed it out to a local couple who promptly changed everything including introducing an improved family area and large sports screens etc. The best thing for me was the introduction of Real Ale, what's not to like about a pint of Yellowhammer !!! They turned it around within 6 months and made a healthy profit. When the Football Club realised money could be made they kicked the couple out and took back control.  >:(
I have no idea what Boots and Laces is like these days but STFC need to understand the current climate/market etc. The area around Plainmoor is very similar to the area around the County Ground but people used to travel across Torquay to go to Boots and Laces.  

 


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, April 1, 2022, 06:35:07
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Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Friday, April 1, 2022, 06:45:23
Quote from: Wobbly Bob
I'm hearing that the club are having second thoughts about the hotel & conferencing idea.
Now exploring the idea of having an authentic Australian pub, one of the big ones with 3 storeys, balconies & art deco frontage etc.
Discussions ongoing about whether the grassed area in front of the TE could be used as a beer garden in the summer months.

Also looking to revisit the casino concept as well, this time incorporating an upmarket gentleman's & ladies club.

I'm told that the information is reliable but could change after today.

soapy tit wank

nice try


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: reeves4england on Friday, April 1, 2022, 07:06:19
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I suppose it's not a huge surprise given the significant levels of recruitment last summer. Amounts paid per incoming player probably about average for the division.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, April 1, 2022, 08:21:16
I presume the plan would likely be to act as a Landlord and lease out units, removing some of that Operational risk.  Just look at the Regents Circus development, Morrisons are still paying a pretty penny for years to come on the shop they vacated.  The operating unit does not need to be a success once you have a tenant by the short and curlies.

The landlord thing is undoubtedly the case, no point getting into businesses they have no idea how to run.

I wouldn't read too much opportunity into the Morrisons situation as an example, that's a costly exception for them, they royally fucked up their brief sojourn into convenience and are still paying the price for paying stupid money for long leases without any break clauses. They must have been renting the prime site in Lancaster city centre now for c.8 years whilst it remains vacant, no estates manager would ever sign something as stupid, my mate worked in their estates team and a lot of heads rolled off the back of that!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JBZ on Friday, April 1, 2022, 08:57:29
5 year leases are common.

Very broadly speaking, the business has to be a
'success' otherwise paying the rent becomes difficult.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Arriba on Friday, April 1, 2022, 11:08:02
Given the grounds location do people think a sports bar could be a money spinner outside of STFC game time? Put in a decent burger and chips type of place/Street food and try and make the CG a great social place to go to any time of the week.

Yeah I do. Could have bands on at weekends etc. It works for other clubs don't see why it wouldn't here. The town centre location a plus in that regard too I think.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Arriba on Friday, April 1, 2022, 11:13:18
Interesting that Arriba mentions the Boots and Laces Sports Bar at Torquay United. I lived a few 100 yards away for several years about 10 years ago and was a regular most weekends. During the days of Paul Buckle and Chairman Colin Lee Boots and Laces was loosing the club a lot of money when it was run "in-house" so the club farmed it out to a local couple who promptly changed everything including introducing an improved family area and large sports screens etc. The best thing for me was the introduction of Real Ale, what's not to like about a pint of Yellowhammer !!! They turned it around within 6 months and made a healthy profit. When the Football Club realised money could be made they kicked the couple out and took back control.  >:(
I have no idea what Boots and Laces is like these days but STFC need to understand the current climate/market etc. The area around Plainmoor is very similar to the area around the County Ground but people used to travel across Torquay to go to Boots and Laces.  

 

When I was in Torquay recently there was an advertisement for a band on there and it is still open on non match days as far as I know. We are a bigger club and with the right management we could easily have a successful club bar/supporters club venue within the ground.
I actually saw Colin Lee on meadfoot beach last September too so he's still in the area.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Friday, April 1, 2022, 12:17:18
This was tried in the 70's. Well the bar at least. While the Squash club had a loyal,
 lively clientele it never really took off. The Supporters club was a huge area only used Thursday nights for bingo and Friday/ Saturday nights for music.
As for the local area using a burger bar venue that's highly unlikely. Man Rd has the ethnic population covered in venues of all sorts.

They made good use for it for the 98 World Cup to be fair., "Three Lions Bar" No idea why they managed to get it going back then and not for anything outside of match days since.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Private Fraser on Tuesday, April 5, 2022, 11:40:53
'Well done' all those concerned:

https://www.efl.com/news/2022/april/2022-efl-community-project-of-the-season-winners-announced/


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Qunk on Tuesday, April 5, 2022, 11:44:14
'Well done' all those concerned:

https://www.efl.com/news/2022/april/2022-efl-community-project-of-the-season-winners-announced/

That really is superb. Imagine STFC getting a community award 9 months ago, would have been unthinkable. Fantastic achievement


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, April 5, 2022, 12:37:24
That really is superb. Imagine STFC getting a community award 9 months ago, would have been unthinkable. Fantastic achievement

Good news indeed, but looking at it I think its the community foundation which has won, so may still have happened under the arseholes regime?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Qunk on Tuesday, April 5, 2022, 12:43:45
Good news indeed, but looking at it I think its the community foundation which has won, so may still have happened under the arseholes regime?

That's a fair point. Certainly feels better though under the current leadership though!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, May 4, 2022, 12:37:06
Club fined another £2000 for the Orient ‘brawl’


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, May 5, 2022, 10:36:42
Only 2 attendances under 8,000 this season.

8 above 10,000.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 5, 2022, 11:34:29
Only 2 attendances under 8,000 this season.

8 above 10,000.
Full breakdown of attendances at home, * denotes midweek games with home fans the end figure.

9,450  (253) Carlisle L - 9,197 home fans
8,274* (381) Tranmere  D - 7,893
8,631  (396) Mansfield W - 8,236
8,734  (233) Port Vale L - 8,501
8,436  (312) Colchester D - 8,124
9,310  (144) Rochdale D - 9,166
9,461  (425) Bradford L - 9,036
7,714* (75)  Hartlepool W - 7,639
8,199  (41)  Harrogate D - 8,158
8,131* (112) Stevenage D - 8,019
9,071  (746) Northampton W - 8,325
12,695 (2,473) B Rovers D - 10,222
7,306* (131) Crawley D - 7,175
10,642 (1,260) Exeter L - 9,382
9,031  (131) Scunthorpe W - 8,900
9,840  (214) Walsall W - 9,626
10,153 (94) Salford L - 10,059
11,390 (280) Oldham W - 11,110
8,243* (112) Sutton W - 8,131
11,408 (1,202) Newport L - 10,206
10,624 (351) Orient L - 10,273
11,150 (692) FGR W - 10,458
13,355 (223) Barrow W - 13,132

Total H&A  fans 221,248 (average 9,619)
Total away fans 10,281 (average 447)
Total home fans 210,967 (average 9,172)

League Cup
14,753* (2,318) Man City L - 12,435

Including our FA cup and League Cup home games
Total H&A  fans 236,001 (average 9,833)
Total away fans 12,598 (average 525)
Total home fans 223,401 (average 9,308)

This has been our highest average league attendance since 97/98 when we averaged 9,851


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 5, 2022, 11:43:58
Highest number of home fans this season, not against Man City..........Barrow  :D


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 5, 2022, 11:45:37
Highest number of home fans this season, not against Man City..........Barrow  :D
Absolutely, thats what happens when we give the bank to Town fans.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Tails on Thursday, May 5, 2022, 15:09:11
Absolutely, thats what happens when we give the bank to Town fans.

The price probably helped!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 5, 2022, 15:38:34
The price probably helped!
Its a no lose situation really isnt it, extra income, extra Town backing for the sake of about 6 extra stewards, win win.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Thursday, May 5, 2022, 15:39:43
Its a no lose situation really isnt it, extra income, extra Town backing for the sake of about 6 extra stewards, win win.

Unless it becomes regular and you piss off/lose people from the more expensive Town End to the bank


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 5, 2022, 15:43:34
Unless it becomes regular and you piss off/lose people from the more expensive Town End to the bank

In which case we just don't open it unless there is demand.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Thursday, May 5, 2022, 15:52:00
If the bank redevelopment goes ahead, they'll probably end up similar prices anyway


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 5, 2022, 15:58:35
If the bank redevelopment goes ahead, they'll probably end up similar prices anyway
Absolutely they will, with a roof it will make all the difference to the extra sound from fans too, its all good!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, May 6, 2022, 11:15:20
Here is the breakdown for the away games Swindon attendees (including an estimated 3,600 for tomorrows game)

Scunthorpe 850
Salford 761
Stevenage 1,005
Northampton 962 (limited by Police)
B Rovers 705 (limited by Police)
FGR 1,202
Sutton 574
Oldham 635
Newport 1,027 (limited by Police)
Orient* 955
Barrow 577
Mansfield* 252
Port Vale 703
Colchester 605
Tranmere* 262
Carlisle 381
Bradford 561
Exeter* 733
Crawley 1,041
Rochdale 695
Harrogate* 600
Hartlepool 465
Walsall 3,600

Total Town fans at away games 19,151 - average 833

League Cup
Cambridge* 270

FA Cup
Crewe 653
Walsall 2,024

Total Town fans at away games(inc cups) 22,098 - average 850


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, May 6, 2022, 11:20:05
Absolutely they will, with a roof it will make all the difference to the extra sound from fans too, its all good!

Plus the big fan on the roof to keep the tunnel working!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, May 6, 2022, 11:26:40
Plus the big fan on the roof to keep the tunnel working!
Just to please Exeter fans ;)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, May 6, 2022, 17:57:13
Here is the breakdown for the away games Swindon attendees (including an estimated 3,600 for tomorrows game)

Scunthorpe 850
Salford 761
Stevenage 1,005
Northampton 962 (limited by Police)
B Rovers 705 (limited by Police)
FGR 1,202
Sutton 574
Oldham 635
Newport 1,027 (limited by Police)
Orient* 955
Barrow 577
Mansfield* 252
Port Vale 703
Colchester 605
Tranmere* 262
Carlisle 381
Bradford 561
Exeter* 733
Crawley 1,041
Rochdale 695
Harrogate* 600
Hartlepool 465
Walsall 3,600

Total Town fans at away games 19,151 - average 833

League Cup
Cambridge* 270

FA Cup
Crewe 653
Walsall 2,024

Total Town fans at away games(inc cups) 22,098 - average 850
Where did you get the info JJ plus excellent job :clap:


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, May 7, 2022, 09:15:05
Where did you get the info JJ plus excellent job :clap:
In matchday threads mostly.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 10, 2022, 11:52:29
From the Vale thread:

Only what’s been tabled in football circles.
Not going to speculate other than it was mentioned, my take is simply to wait and see what comes to light. Clearly not going to mention the “P” word but if this was the case then the dynamics would surely change.
Money is coming into the club, thus any reasons to reduce the budget would certainly not be acceptable from myself and no doubt others.
Will just have to wait and see Mate, but the Club is exceeding break even figures.

I guess the golden question is do the “Board, those owning it” actually have more than a pot to piss in?

I think it's fair enough to speculate on these matters. Unfortunately due to historic circumstances ourselves (and I dare say quite a few football clubs) have some quite murky financial histories that Agatha Christie, Miss Marple and Columbo would struggle to get to the bottom of. I certainly think fans discussion and speculation is healthy in these matters, I am definitely very positive about the club and the future under Clem etc but of course there are lingering doubts that remain.

Is Clem actually the 'money man?' It will be interesting given the state of the world how his businesses are doing at the moment. He's never said that he's absolutely loaded so money potentially is coming from elsewhere until we become sustainable. Fair play that we have reduced debts from 4.5 down to 1.5 ish million quid and if we win the play-offs that will get down to around 1 million and then the Twine money if Franchise sell could potentially see us debt free for the first time in yonks!


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 10, 2022, 11:54:17
If that's in relation to the "rent" thing duke, the maths of the alleged debt don't add up.

Very much a wait and see.

I think with Xavi and Standing (presumably) still in the background the future is a bit opaque. Just a personal opinion.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, May 10, 2022, 13:29:31
On the debt free thing, when was the last time we were actually debt free? Can anyone even tell me?

Can't say when the club was handed over to the charlatans and not the indie band, because we still had a 'soft debt' to Andrew Black that Power purchased from him.

When was the last time we genuinely didn't have a sizable debt hanging over us? I'm not sure its in my lifetime and i'm 34 soon.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: ThreeDrawsMentality on Tuesday, May 10, 2022, 13:32:06
I'm very much with BO in that I wouldn't be surprised at all in any debt creeping out the closet with how things were ran previously. Also wouldn't be surprised if LP is claiming X amount is owed in loans/debentures, which the club are contesting. If that contesting fails, then that'll potentially be 'new' debt - although any good forecaster shouldn't be disregarding that anyway.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: singingiiiffy on Tuesday, May 10, 2022, 14:29:47
The new owners have got their absolute dream 1st season. Record crowds, high season ticket sales, premier league team in cup run, additional playoff fixtures and potential high sell on fees (twine). At our level it genuinely can not get any better than that.
We haven't had the above go our way for many years and lets hope we can get the true benefit of it


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, May 10, 2022, 14:31:53
The new owners have got their absolute dream 1st season. Record crowds, high season ticket sales, premier league team in cup run, additional playoff fixtures and potential high sell on fees (twine). At our level it genuinely can not get any better than that.
We haven't had the above go our way for many years and lets hope we can get the true benefit of it

Spot on - Not much better than this.
Therefore expecting some positive intent with next seasons budget.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, May 10, 2022, 14:34:41
If that's in relation to the "rent" thing duke, the maths of the alleged debt don't add up.

Very much a wait and see.

I think with Xavi and Standing (presumably) still in the background the future is a bit opaque. Just a personal opinion.
I still think Austin is a lot more than just vice chairman….


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, May 10, 2022, 14:48:52
I still think Austin is a lot more than just vice chairman….

There was a kind of 'we've got our club back thanks to these guys' tweet done by the official site that then had a picture of Austin and Clem, which I found kind of odd? Nothing at all about Angus.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, May 10, 2022, 14:50:17
There was a kind of 'we've got our club back thanks to these guys' tweet done by the official site that then had a picture of Austin and Clem, which I found kind of odd? Nothing at all about Angus.
Think Austin would have a very different title if it wasn’t for his ‘interesting’ past.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, May 10, 2022, 14:52:59
Think Austin would have a very different title if it wasn’t for his ‘interesting’ past.

Lord? Baron? Kingpin? ;)


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, May 10, 2022, 15:23:57
We wont be debt free as clubs at this level are not debt free, but hopefully we can get to a point where low investment is needed, and if we can sell a player a season or pick up sell on clauses here and there then that helps with running costs and budgets.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, May 10, 2022, 15:31:57
Lord? Baron? Kingpin? ;)
Laundry Manager?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, May 10, 2022, 15:32:48
The new owners have got their absolute dream 1st season. Record crowds, high season ticket sales, premier league team in cup run, additional playoff fixtures and potential high sell on fees (twine). At our level it genuinely can not get any better than that.
We haven't had the above go our way for many years and lets hope we can get the true benefit of it

They have, but they have also had to put in a shit load of cash up front to get us up and running and facilitate the operation of the business. One would suggest that projections for 2022-23 will look better than they did but they may not necessarily mean more investment in the playing staff.

We wont be debt free as clubs at this level are not debt free, but hopefully we can get to a point where low investment is needed, and if we can sell a player a season or pick up sell on clauses here and there then that helps with running costs and budgets.

Pretty much no business is debt free and has it been clear in what way Clem has been funding the business i.e. loans etc and how he intends to protect his investments in the long term?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: dalumpimunki on Tuesday, May 10, 2022, 16:04:31
I'm sure the P&L for this season looks a bit better than the new owners expected it to be at the end of the first season. With the chance of promotion, and the ground purchase there is the potential for real progress in sorting out the club's future financially by continuing on field progress, and investing in non match day income streams.

There will be big clubs left in L1, especially if Wycombe can get up, who will bring big away contingents. As will Oxford and Rovers. I'm feeling hopeful for the club.

Shame about the rest of the shitshow that passes for a country, but you can't have everything at once I guess.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, May 10, 2022, 16:05:32
I still think Austin is a lot more than just vice chairman….

I think you are getting warmer.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: MangoRed on Tuesday, May 10, 2022, 20:07:50
Laundry Manager?

Haha


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Wednesday, May 11, 2022, 15:00:33
I think you are getting warmer.
Are you suggesting that Multi Millionaire of a global business is sat at CG doing 12 hour shifts for Mr Austin


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: JanAirplaneMan on Wednesday, May 11, 2022, 15:22:35
Are you suggesting that Multi Millionaire of a global business is sat at CG doing 12 hour shifts for Mr Austin
I am a little confused and concerned by the suggestion that CM isn't the sole owner/controller of our club. ZA is responsible for special projects and financially has nothing to do with the club. CM owns the club.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Wednesday, May 11, 2022, 16:14:41
On the face of it maybe James but I think most involved with football in many capacities (including fans) aren't so naive to think that what lays on the surface is the full depth of things - Not least with STFC.

Can you categorically confirm that there aren't any private investors behind Clem Formuni? Let's say, someone similar to Michael Standing?


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Boy About Town on Wednesday, May 11, 2022, 16:16:07
I am a little confused and concerned by the suggestion that CM isn't the sole owner/controller of our club. ZA is responsible for special projects and financially has nothing to do with the club. CM owns the club.

Did the Trust ever complete any full diligence checks into ZA? Y/N answer.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, May 11, 2022, 16:28:09
Eh up, the threads gone all Susanna Reid all of a sudden..  I like..


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 11, 2022, 16:29:45
Some very important question too.

Its a Swindon fans natural right to be defensive and sceptical when it comes to new owners after the shit we have been through.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, May 11, 2022, 16:33:34
did ZA pass/fail the directors test?

After Power of course people will be on tenterhooks. Especially as Austin has a past*

* Not saying he's not reformed. Don't know the guy at all


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Wednesday, May 11, 2022, 16:38:50
On the face of it maybe James but I think most involved with football in many capacities (including fans) aren't so naive to think that what lays on the surface is the full depth of things - Not least with STFC.

Can you categorically confirm that there aren't any private investors behind Clem Formuni? Let's say, someone similar to Michael Standing?

Or Michael Standing himself.


Title: Re: New beginnings - Fresh Start
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, May 11, 2022, 16:4