New beginnings - 25% Truth, 80% Bollocks

[Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG]

Probably more appropriate given how things started.

[Frigby Daser]

Remember the self-congratulatory articles in the Aussie press about the friendly plumber saving the English football club. Perhaps the Aussie press need an update on his progress.

[BoA Vagabond]

I'm thinking that I will do away games only next season after 28 years of S T freeloading bastard fun.. Won't be many sadly because of the cost and needing to be near home. Let's hope southern teams get relegated from Div 3 and ditto promoted from The conference. That's assuming we don't drop like a stone post xmas. The S T saving will certainly fund a few day trips. I will have to give up my freeloader status though, which will be a big loss.

[Dr Pierre Chang]

The one anti-Clem chant by us today struggled to get going (in a fairly vocal area) - I do detect he retains quite a bit of support ‘on the ground’..

It will be interesting to see what happens over the next 2/3 home matches if results are mixed.

[STFC_Manc]

Personally i don't get the whole I won't be renewing ST next year, I still want to see my team play and support them.  While the 'free games' comments was wrong and stupid, some people do like to get carried away with it.

[MangoRed]

Personally i don't get the whole I won't be renewing ST next year, I still want to see my team play and support them.  While the 'free games' comments was wrong and stupid, some people do like to get carried away with it.

Like clockwork. Here he is. Top tier troll.

“Free loading bastards we know what we are” 🎶

[STFC_Manc]

Like clockwork. Here he is. Top tier troll.

“Free loading bastards we know what we are” 🎶

I forgot, I'm not allowed to give my view, it's not a forum for people to express views.

[Trashbat?]

Personally i don't get the whole I won't be renewing ST next year, I still want to see my team play and support them.  While the 'free games' comments was wrong and stupid, some people do like to get carried away with it.

I think it is going to depend on the uplift. £50 increase is potentially acceptable, anything above that I personally would draw the line. I could afford it, but over the last few years I have enjoyed my weekends with the family more than watching Town. Despite having a ST this year I reckon I have missed more than I have been to.

[STFC_Manc]

I think it is going to depend on the uplift. £50 increase is potentially acceptable, anything above that I personally would draw the line. I could afford it, but over the last few years I have enjoyed my weekends with the family more than watching Town. Despite having a ST this year I reckon I have missed more than I have been to.

I fully understand that and that makes complete sense, if prices go up a lot then most people will consider is it worth it.  That's not what my comment was based on though.

[Bennett]

Personally i don't get the whole I won't be renewing ST next year, I still want to see my team play and support them.  While the 'free games' comments was wrong and stupid, some people do like to get carried away with it.

I agree, drama is more fun and can lead to people saying hyperbolic things. But there has to be a point where people are so unhappy with the situation at the club (as they see it), that they refuse to co-sign the mess we're in by continuing to fund it. Maybe some are genuinely at that point?

I don't have an ST but if I did I probably wouldn't be renewing, regardless of any increase in cost

[STFC_Manc]

I agree, drama is more fun and can lead to people saying hyperbolic things. But there has to be a point where people are so unhappy with the situation at the club (as they see it), that they refuse to co-sign the mess we're in by continuing to fund it. Maybe some are genuinely at that point?

I don't have an ST but if I did I probably wouldn't be renewing, regardless of any increase in cost

Yeah thats a very fair statement, people do seem to revel in the drama.  Personally, while I'm very disappointed with the size of the squad, the shares issue and the general poor communication from STFC (free games etc) - I enjoy going to football (yes I would enjoy it more if the above was resolved).

[theakston2k]

Personally i don't get the whole I won't be renewing ST next year, I still want to see my team play and support them.  While the 'free games' comments was wrong and stupid, some people do like to get carried away with it.

What’s the incentive to renew exactly? It’s becoming quite clear the money we spend isn’t spent on the team. That statement from Hall that was then repeated in the advisory board minutes was way beyond wrong and stupid, it clearly showed the contempt they have towards the support. They don’t deserve our money!

[STFC_Manc]

What’s the incentive to renew exactly? It’s becoming quite clear the money we spend isn’t spent on the team. That statement from Hall that was then repeated in the advisory board minutes was way beyond wrong and stupid, it clearly showed the contempt they have towards the support. They don’t deserve our money!

I enjoy going to games, as I've said above I'm sure it would be better if all the issues were resolved. It's not very clear where the money is being spent, I agree but at the moment I can't see any alternatives apart from a rumoured sale, which might be even worse - we just don't know.

[Bennett]

I don't think any of these things are new this season; shit on field, shit off field and shit direction, but i do think we're in an unusual position where we're teetering on the edge of ticking into shit for all three:
on field - The squad is too small and has been compiled poorly.
Off field - we've got people learning football (and the concept of season tickets) and making plenty of mistakes
Direction - ...we're aiming to be sustainable and erm go up hopefully?

To be truthful I am struggling to think of a positive that happened under Clem's stewardship that I could attribute to him beyond bringing STWFC into the fold.
I'm not saying it was better under Power...but i think the sequence of seemingly bad actors has taken it's toll and the club need a completely different direction.

What that is or how it happens...i dunno, but i'd like to think something will change and if the fans who are sick of this can force the hand by withholding their freeloading season ticket money or not watching ifollow, it's basically the only card we can play

[theakston2k]

I enjoy going to games, as I've said above I'm sure it would be better if all the issues were resolved. It's not very clear where the money is being spent, I agree but at the moment I can't see any alternatives apart from a rumoured sale, which might be even worse - we just don't know.

Go to away games only, thats’s what I’m going to do if nothing changes next season.

This is just a continuation of the Power era so I can’t really see how it could get much worst apart from admin or the club folding which is starting to feel a genuine possibility with this lot anyway.