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« Reply #8565 on: Monday, December 4, 2023, 17:44:13 »

https://truststfc.com/2023/11/27/stfc-museum-and-county-ground-tours/?mc_cid=95c60234a1&mc_eid=e0574184a9

Now, don't get me wrong, I think the idea of stadium tours and bringing history into the ground is a great idea - in fact, I took my son to a stadium tour of Spurs' new ground (they took my jibes about the trophy display being a bit sparse quite well).  However, is this really something the Trust should be running?

It seems like a perfect idea for a business looking to add some extra Revenue to own and the perfect thing for a non political Supporters Club to help by adding content.  The Trust is not designed or meant for such things, is there a reason they seem to get involved in so much that really has little to do with their two primary objectives - working on a stadium redevelopment and building funds to eventually have shares in the club.

I expressed concerns a few years ago that they'd spread themselves too think if they didn't just narrow their focus to the ground.  Look what happens when you eyes and efforts are all over the shop, the owners get a free ride.

They do have 10/11 board members, too many cooks can cause issues?  The museum is a charity with it's own trustees

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« Reply #8566 on: Monday, December 4, 2023, 18:03:56 »

And this whole looking at the accounts thing, it's pointless anyway.  The club will rely on commercial sensitivity to prevent any real details from being reviewed or published.  A look at some, likely well scrubbed, financial data won't give much insight anyway.

What the Trust should be pushing for, given the stated desire of the club to be open/honest/transparent, is for the club to produce the most detailed accounts possible in the public domain and use other clubs to give examples of what that means.  If the club wants to hide behind secrecy instead, let that be on public record.  Get them to show their hypocrisy in public statements vs actual documents.

I still think they (Trust STFC) should only be doing two things right now - working on a Ground Development plan and working on an investment strategy to get control or some degree of equity of the club itself.
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« Reply #8567 on: Monday, December 4, 2023, 18:06:02 »

oh, and I am a member, and I did e-mail such thoughts (on the accounts side).  Never received a response though.  Live too far away to be on the Board, before someone suggests I get more involved.
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« Reply #8568 on: Monday, December 4, 2023, 18:10:30 »

And this whole looking at the accounts thing, it's pointless anyway.  The club will rely on commercial sensitivity to prevent any real details from being reviewed or published.  A look at some, likely well scrubbed, financial data won't give much insight anyway.

What the Trust should be pushing for, given the stated desire of the club to be open/honest/transparent, is for the club to produce the most detailed accounts possible in the public domain and use other clubs to give examples of what that means.  If the club wants to hide behind secrecy instead, let that be on public record.  Get them to show their hypocrisy in public statements vs actual documents.

I still think they (Trust STFC) should only be doing two things right now - working on a Ground Development plan and working on an investment strategy to get control or some degree of equity of the club itself.

I'm not sure I've ever seen anything on your last point on investing into the club? Trusts should be doing more than just ground development, as that is being lead by the club?
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« Reply #8569 on: Monday, December 4, 2023, 18:58:35 »

Has anyone considered the possibility that the reason the Trust don’t have access to the accounts is that a buyer may have a period of exclusivity that prevents disclosure to a third party, such as the Trust?
 
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« Reply #8570 on: Monday, December 4, 2023, 19:01:46 »

Haha this CEO on the OSC.

Straight out there denying the trust statement

Saying he is angry about what is being inferred
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« Reply #8571 on: Monday, December 4, 2023, 19:03:07 »

Haha this CEO on the OSC.

Straight out there denying the trust statement

He’s not happy at all.
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« Reply #8572 on: Monday, December 4, 2023, 19:06:03 »

If this guy is really involved in running the club then we are fucked!
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« Reply #8573 on: Monday, December 4, 2023, 19:09:21 »

STFC board official in “being an aggressive nob” shocker. Comes across as similarly arrogant and dopey as Z Austin.
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« Reply #8574 on: Monday, December 4, 2023, 19:10:17 »

We're in the same camp as all clubs in the L2, they are all losing £1-2m.
So Clem is putting in £250k a month...that's £3m
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« Reply #8575 on: Monday, December 4, 2023, 19:10:30 »

Oh, what have I missed?
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« Reply #8576 on: Monday, December 4, 2023, 19:11:20 »

Oh, what have I missed?

Osc on facebook now
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« Reply #8577 on: Monday, December 4, 2023, 19:11:52 »

Haha this CEO on the OSC.

Straight out there denying the trust statement

Saying he is angry about what is being inferred
The Trust wouldn't have popped out from the bushes without being able to back themselves
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« Reply #8578 on: Monday, December 4, 2023, 19:12:01 »

Oh, what have I missed?
https://www.youtube.com/live/NTNlotJAV1o?si=5xwhBQkloDWSo7G4
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« Reply #8579 on: Monday, December 4, 2023, 19:12:53 »

The Trust wouldn't have popped out from the bushes without being able to back themselves

‘Come and see me in my office in the morning!’
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