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« Reply #18210 on: Tuesday, May 13, 2025, 09:05:13 » |
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But say it was 500, and only 30% would buy a full price ticket (and 70% therefore wouldn’t go) that’s £78 grand extra over a season
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« Reply #18211 on: Tuesday, May 13, 2025, 09:12:53 » |
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But say it was 500, and only 30% would buy a full price ticket (and 70% therefore wouldn’t go) that’s £78 grand extra over a season
500 seems like a very high number and I think the number of people using it instead of a ST (it's cheaper than a ST) would be higher than 30%. |
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« Reply #18212 on: Tuesday, May 13, 2025, 09:13:38 » |
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Spencer is on FB claiming we lost money on it. Obviously peddling Hall’s and the clubs naive view that all those that bought tickets via Nationwide would have attended anyway.
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« Reply #18213 on: Tuesday, May 13, 2025, 09:24:09 » |
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500 seems like a very high number and I think the number of people using it instead of a ST (it's cheaper than a ST) would be higher than 30%.
Didn't he mean that of the people currently using it, 30% would carry on going with a full price ticket next year? 500 * .3 * 23 = 3450 people over a season * £10 reclaimed (24-10 discount) = 34500 Nope. Way off. As you were. I have missed something |
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« Reply #18214 on: Tuesday, May 13, 2025, 09:38:21 » |
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Didn't he mean that of the people currently using it, 30% would carry on going with a full price ticket next year?
500 * .3 * 23 = 3450 people over a season
* £10 reclaimed (24-10 discount) = 34500
Nope. Way off. As you were. I have missed something
I thought he meant that the £78k was what the club would be missing out on. Earnings from 500 tickets at £14 = 500 * £14 * 23 = £161k Earnings at 30% (150 tickets) at £24 = 150 * £24 * 23 = £82.8k = £161k - £83k = £78k |
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« Reply #18215 on: Tuesday, May 13, 2025, 09:40:11 » |
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I find it difficult to believe that 150 people would choose to pay £24 for each home game over buying a Season ticket.
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« Reply #18216 on: Tuesday, May 13, 2025, 09:40:40 » |
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Didn't he mean that of the people currently using it, 30% would carry on going with a full price ticket next year?
500 * .3 * 23 = 3450 people over a season
* £10 reclaimed (24-10 discount) = 34500
Nope. Way off. As you were. I have missed something
Sorry, it was an illustration of opportunity cost 500 fans buying at £14 a ticket = £7k Assuming 30% would have otherwise bought a full price ticket (and 70% wouldn’t have bothered) then ticket income would have 150 at £24 a ticket = £3.6k In that scenario you’re therefore earning £3.4k more per match, £78k more over a season I’m not suprised Manc doubts the % (and it was only illustrative) but anecdotally from the 10 or so people i know who go regularly via nationwide tickets (including myself) none would go regularly at full price |
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« Reply #18217 on: Tuesday, May 13, 2025, 09:47:35 » |
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I know it was illustrative, Its ok if people don't 100% agree with you.
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« Reply #18218 on: Tuesday, May 13, 2025, 09:51:53 » |
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Sorry, it was an illustration of opportunity cost
500 fans buying at £14 a ticket = £7k
Assuming 30% would have otherwise bought a full price ticket (and 70% wouldn’t have bothered) then ticket income would have 150 at £24 a ticket = £3.6k
In that scenario you’re therefore earning £3.4k more per match, £78k more over a season
I’m not suprised Manc doubts the % (and it was only illustrative) but anecdotally from the 10 or so people i know who go regularly via nationwide tickets (including myself) none would go regularly at full price
These figures sound perfectly reasonable to me. The club is assuming that everyone who buys a reduced ticket will actually be willing to pay full price and still attend each game, that blatantly isnt the case. I know several that only go because its cheap and won't bother going at full price (certainly not for every game anyway as they do now). |
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« Reply #18219 on: Tuesday, May 13, 2025, 09:58:38 » |
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I’m sure being the competent person that he is Anthony Hall would know exactly how many Nationwide tickets get sold per game & im sure those fans (and fellow Nationwide employees) have been surveyed about their attendance patterns.
Hall must then have a pretty tight business plan & a clear indication of how much money the club will make / lose with & without the deal.
No doubt when questions at the next AB meeting he will display all these calculations for all to see.
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« Reply #18220 on: Tuesday, May 13, 2025, 11:04:25 » |
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then ticket income would have 150 at £24 a ticket = £3.6k
With you. I thought you meant the other way round. I didn't English well. old deal : 500@£14 = 7000. 7000*23 = 161000 new deal : 150@24 = 3600. 3600*23= 82800 Incidentally you need 292 (or, more usefully, 58%) to buy at full price to meet the Nationwide deal ticket income alone. Or of course make up with better sponsorship income |
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« Reply #18221 on: Tuesday, May 13, 2025, 11:06:03 » |
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Add on the lost sponsorship money too.
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« Reply #18222 on: Tuesday, May 13, 2025, 11:12:53 » |
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Add on the lost sponsorship money too.
Should be met or bettered by new sponsorship |
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« Reply #18223 on: Tuesday, May 13, 2025, 11:46:54 » |
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You are all forgetting the people who turn up also spend some money with the club on top, so you have that variation to account for when less people buy tickets as well. Less people to pay to run turnstiles though.
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« Reply #18224 on: Tuesday, May 13, 2025, 11:47:26 » |
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The £35k a season and losing money would mean 152 people going per game (a £10 loss a game). However, that would only be the case if all of the 152 people carry on going.
Also assuming none of them buy food or drink or anything while at the games they do go to with a discounted ticket. |
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