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« Reply #18195 on: Monday, May 12, 2025, 19:50:50 »

Morshead values the NBS sponsorship lost at £35k p/a. Not huge money, but enough to matter. Certainly think that would have more than covered some discounted tickets.
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« Reply #18196 on: Monday, May 12, 2025, 20:53:21 »

Morshead values the NBS sponsorship lost at £35k p/a. Not huge money, but enough to matter. Certainly think that would have more than covered some discounted tickets.
Spencer is on FB claiming we lost money on it. Obviously peddling Hall’s and the clubs naive view that all those that bought tickets via Nationwide would have attended anyway.
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« Reply #18197 on: Monday, May 12, 2025, 20:56:25 »

Spencer is on FB claiming we lost money on it. Obviously peddling Hall’s and the clubs naive view that all those that bought tickets via Nationwide would have attended anyway.

He’s probably right. Nationwide haven’t been properly involved in the club since they were shirt sponsors about 27 years ago.
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« Reply #18198 on: Monday, May 12, 2025, 20:59:37 »

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« Reply #18199 on: Monday, May 12, 2025, 21:14:28 »

He’s probably right. Nationwide haven’t been properly involved in the club since they were shirt sponsors about 27 years ago.
Naturally for a minute I assumed this was a parody account with the name and considering Nationwide were shirt sponsors well into the 2000’s. But it seems this was a genuine post…
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« Reply #18200 on: Monday, May 12, 2025, 21:30:42 »

Spencer is on FB claiming we lost money on it. Obviously peddling Hall’s and the clubs naive view that all those that bought tickets via Nationwide would have attended anyway.
How the fuck do you lose money on something like that?

Earning less than they think they could get through other methods, sure.

But lose money?  What, it costs more than £14 a person to administer?
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« Reply #18201 on: Monday, May 12, 2025, 21:32:31 »

Naturally for a minute I assumed this was a parody account with the name and considering Nationwide were shirt sponsors well into the 2000’s. But it seems this was a genuine post…
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« Reply #18202 on: Monday, May 12, 2025, 22:38:25 »

How the fuck do you lose money on something like that?

Earning less than they think they could get through other methods, sure.

But lose money?  What, it costs more than £14 a person to administer?

Hall is not the sharpest tool in the box.  He is indeed assuming every person buying these tickets would have otherwise paid full walk up price.  He's pretty much said as much before and AB minutes back up that line of thinking with those that "run" the club.  He also presumes season ticket holders would just pay increased on the day prices if removed I think, surprised he hasn't suggested it.  The small issue of no income in June and July would bite as and when it happened, rather than be planned for.
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« Reply #18203 on: Monday, May 12, 2025, 23:31:29 »

How the fuck do you lose money on something like that?

Earning less than they think they could get through other methods, sure.

But lose money?  What, it costs more than £14 a person to administer?

The £35k a season and losing money would mean 152 people going per game (a £10 loss a game).  However, that would only be the case if all of the 152 people carry on going.
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« Reply #18204 on: Tuesday, May 13, 2025, 06:16:50 »

The £35k a season and losing money would mean 152 people going per game (a £10 loss a game).  However, that would only be the case if all of the 152 people carry on going.
You still aren't losing money. You just think you can make more.

How many tickets did Nationwide employees take up I wonder. Clearly more than the 152 offset to full price that the sponsorship covers.
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« Reply #18205 on: Tuesday, May 13, 2025, 06:36:47 »

Was the discount £10 per ticket? I.e £14?
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« Reply #18206 on: Tuesday, May 13, 2025, 07:02:01 »

Was the discount £10 per ticket? I.e £14?

Yes it was
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« Reply #18207 on: Tuesday, May 13, 2025, 07:48:55 »

To be fair to the club, that is an incredibly generous discount and can understand why they would want to look at changing it. The hope is clearly that enough fans will come to enough games (or get season ticket) at the increased ticket price, as well as getting a new sponsor that is able to provide the same or higher level of income.
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« Reply #18208 on: Tuesday, May 13, 2025, 08:24:49 »

The break even point is about 50% of nationwide fans having to buy full price tickets. Is that reasonable? Obviously if the actual % likelihood is lower, the scheme makes money

Also think the morsehead article was talking about the 90s negotiation?
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« Reply #18209 on: Tuesday, May 13, 2025, 08:41:10 »

The break even point is about 50% of nationwide fans having to buy full price tickets. Is that reasonable? Obviously if the actual % likelihood is lower, the scheme makes money

Also think the morsehead article was talking about the 90s negotiation?

Any idea of numbers of fans that use the Nationwide ticket incentive?
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