New beginnings - 25% Truth, 80% Bollocks

[tans]

Yeah, you fucking freeloading Season Ticket holders, you're holding us back!  I mean, aside from not asking for refunds for the season you didn't get to see any games, apart from that, you are Leaches!

I got about 25 mins in before stopping - he's just a dick.  If he has any input into the day to day running of the business we are truly fucked.

They've gone after trying to place blame on concession tickets before.  I imagine the "free" tickets he is talking about are the ones they give to schools.  Fucking sponging school kids.

What is Gerald Ratner up to these days, he'd do a better job than this chap.

I liked the Carlisle accounts question, obviously, but his answer gives us everything - he basically knows jack shit, less than your average fan on the street can muster with a few minutes and google at their hands.  I'd love to get sight of the detailed accounts - 8m+ in expenditure would be an amazing achievement, beyond anything we have ever spent as a club in a season.  The biscuits in the boardroom must be gold coated because there is fuck all evidence anywhere else of that kind of spend.  And don't forget that is just the trading costs, it doesn't include anything spent on capital investments (which I presume are actually zero anyway), which wouldn't hit the P&L.

God help us all.

I know someone who’s dad lost his job during covid and rung the club numerous times asking for his ST refund. Club said someone would get back to him.

They never did.

[TheDukeOfBanbury]

Would Standing be a genuine possibility of a new owner? If yes, is he just another in the long line of chancers?

Hope not and until the legacy of all these connected Chancers are out of sight then we may start to believe we have a football club again.
Honestly sick of it.

[Trashbat?]

I was told on good authority that last year the playing budget was £2.3m, this year it is £1.6m.

[JoeMezz]

Clem will not be getting more money out of me 

[Trashbat?]

I honestly cannot believe that I just saw someone on FB defending that interview.

[Oaksey Moonraker]

I suspect the £8m expenditure includes repaying the £3m debenture in the way they lump all spending into a single figure.

Talk about sucking the momentum, after an uptick in form, out of everyone and getting the fans riled up again.

Surely you come out and say very little, some nice things about support is important and try and keep the fans onside?. Bizarre.

[UTR]

Just remembered the league one within 3 years bit. Christ

[STFC_Manc]

The £8.2m costs figure seems quite high, just had a look at Salford (last year spent £6.6m), Carlisle (last year spent £4.6m) and would be a c30% increase on the previous year, when we spent £6.4m

[STFC_Manc]

I suspect the £8m expenditure includes repaying the £3m debenture in the way they lump all spending into a single figure.

Talk about sucking the momentum, after an uptick in form, out of everyone and getting the fans riled up again.

Surely you come out and say very little, some nice things about support is important and try and keep the fans onside?. Bizarre.

It shouldn't include that, as that was a loan to the club, which wouldn't be on the P&L

[Arch Stanton]

Just managed to watch it back. What a shit-show, this is worse than the Power era, right?

[RobertT]

It shouldn't include that, as that was a loan to the club, which wouldn't be on the P&L

Indeed, but we actually know fuck all about the specifics of the money involved, in terms of how it was funded, channeled and terms of the agreements in place.  It was pretty clear that Hall knew fuck all about the details as he tried to stick to the "getting his shares back soon" line, forgetting that Clem had changed his response more recently to "not a priority to pay off the loan for the shares right now" when trying to explain how we would have a transfer budget as well as pay back loans.

[STFC_Manc]

Indeed, but we actually know fuck all about the specifics of the money involved, in terms of how it was funded, channeled and terms of the agreements in place.  It was pretty clear that Hall knew fuck all about the details as he tried to stick to the "getting his shares back soon" line, forgetting that Clem had changed his response more recently to "not a priority to pay off the loan for the shares right now" when trying to explain how we would have a transfer budget as well as pay back loans.

To be balanced, very few clubs at our level actually provide that level of detail and most share less than what STFC has done.

[RobertT]

To be balanced, very few clubs at our level actually provide that level of detail and most share less than what STFC has done.

And if those other clubs proclaim to be starting a new chapter in the clubs history where the fans have their club back and that it will be run with openness and transparency and produce as little, I hope their fans/customers are just as irritated.

Meanwhile, there are also plenty of examples of clubs providing far more detail - our stated aim was to top the league on that front, so either that's just bollocks then (again) or these next accounts will blow our socks off.  Given Hall has fuck all clue about what other teams do, I doubt it.

They made the rod, their backs need to take it.

[RobertT]

We also cannot discount the probability that the loans may never have found their way into our accounts - Clem has a habit of not being aware of such legal requirements, or regulatory ones, like letting the EFL know for example.  I know it's not exactly the same, but it's the sort of shit Power would get up to.

[STFC_Manc]

And if those other clubs proclaim to be starting a new chapter in the clubs history where the fans have their club back and that it will be run with openness and transparency and produce as little, I hope their fans/customers are just as irritated.

Meanwhile, there are also plenty of examples of clubs providing far more detail - our stated aim was to top the league on that front, so either that's just bollocks then (again) or these next accounts will blow our socks off.  Given Hall has fuck all clue about what other teams do, I doubt it.

They made the rod, their backs need to take it.

Not many examples at our level of clubs providing more detail, so we are pretty high up on that list.  Could we get more, yes and I think all fans should get more.