New beginnings - 25% Truth, 80% Bollocks

[Audrey]

It would be easy for Clem to prove the finances instead of being repeatedly vague. It’s that vagueness that raises suspicions that things aren’t bring done properly.

[Audrey]

Clems statement seems to hang rob angus out to dry where it says that he is speaking with his mate Anthony Hall about non favourable current contracts and he is fully briefing him on them, so what did Rob Angus do, sit on his hands and ignore anything financial and tell Clem all is fine financially ?

May be wrong, but I took that to mean commercial contracts not staff contracts.

[Cowley38]

Jesus read the post you commented on above.

And again is their any need for profanity and personal abuse

If you can't debate like an adult don't do it at all

[Mexicano Rojo]

Jesus read the post you commented on above.

And again is their any need for profanity and personal abuse

If you can't debate like an adult don't do it at all

None of the above answers the question. Just be careful of name calling you can't back up.

[Cowley38]

None of the above answers the question. Just be careful of name calling you can't back up.

 

[Pericardinho]

I'm seeing fans on social media who, even until the very end, backed Lee Power who are now doing the same thing with Clem.

I can't for the life of me understand what needs to happen for this section of our fan base to wake up. Is it relegation to the national league? because that's where we're currently heading unless things change. Maybe not this season, but maybe the next or the one after.

Actions speak louder than words. Trying to deceive fans with the shares was the final straw for me. It doesn't mean I'm Clem out, but it certainly does mean I don't believe anything he says anymore. Therefore, I'll judge him by the actions of the club and how it operates on a day to day basis rather than clinging onto the words of a desperate man with a reputation of lying repeatedly.

The reason posters like Chalky are losing the plot is because they've seen us nearly lose our club and instead of learning from it, many of our fans are yet again burying their heads in the sand and choosing to give yet another owner the benefit of the doubt. We have to do better. Please please please stop making excuses for this man and just see this for what it is. It's staring you all right in the face.

[Audrey]

Again, it’s easy for Clem to prove it’s just incompetence and not ‘shenanigans’.

And there’s fuck all us fans can do about it either way.

[Cowley38]

I'm seeing fans on social media who, even until the very end, backed Lee Power who are now doing the same thing with Clem.

I can't for the life of me understand what needs to happen for this section of our fan base to wake up. Is it relegation to the national league? because that's where we're currently heading unless things change. Maybe not this season, but maybe the next or the one after.

Actions speak louder than words. Trying to deceive fans with the shares was the final straw for me. It doesn't mean I'm Clem out, but it certainly does mean I don't believe anything he says anymore. Therefore, I'll judge him by the actions of the club and how it operates on a day to day basis rather than clinging onto the words of a desperate man with a reputation of lying repeatedly.

The reason posters like Chalky are losing the plot is because they've seen us nearly lose our club and instead of learning from it, many of our fans are yet again burying their heads in the sand and choosing to give yet another owner the benefit of the doubt. We have to do better. Please please please stop making excuses for this man and just see this for what it is. It's staring you all right in the face.

Well said!!

We've had too many dodgy owners ...and that's going back further than Power and Jed

In 50 years of supporting town I cannot think of a time when we've been totally relaxed with the owners or finances

There's a reason we are known as Swindle Town to other clubs

Unfortunately they all move in the same circles and so tend to sell to within.....

We need a complete break and have an owner who is not within the Jed/Power/Morfuni circle of friends

[Audrey]

It’s easier for fans to think our failures are down to shady goings on than anything else. In some ways they prefer it to be that because then the prospect that things will get better just by changing the ownership.

[Cowley38]

None of the above answers the question. Just be careful of name calling you can't back up.

For exactly the reasons many called Power a crook and that was ok on here apparently.....

We were told we were virtually debt free

8-9k gates
Lowish budget
Numerous sales and sell ons

Yet we

Cannot pay players ontime
Bills are racking up due to inability to pay....

So where has/ is the money going.......

Power was a crook according to fans when all the same things were happening.......

So in that logic  .......Morfuni is.....dodgy

There I havnt said the C word.......Happy?

[Quagmire]

For exactly the reasons many called Power a crook and that was ok on here apparently.....

We were told we were virtually debt free

8-9k gates
Lowish budget
Numerous sales and sell ons

Yet we

Cannot pay players ontime
Bills are racking up due to inability to pay....

So where has/ is the money going.......

Power was a crook according to fans when all the same things were happening.......

So in that logic  .......Morfuni is.....dodgy

There I havnt said the C word.......Happy?

Are you aware of Clem doing anything illegal?

Are you aware of Clem taking any money out of the club?

Two simple questions, as I said, I don’t trust him before you tell me to stop burying my head in the sand.

[Mexicano Rojo]

For exactly the reasons many called Power a crook and that was ok on here apparently.....

We were told we were virtually debt free

8-9k gates
Lowish budget
Numerous sales and sell ons

Yet we

Cannot pay players ontime
Bills are racking up due to inability to pay....

So where has/ is the money going.......

Power was a crook according to fans when all the same things were happening.......

So in that logic  .......Morfuni is.....dodgy

There I havnt said the C word.......Happy?

Mate call him a crook, call him a nonce if you want. They're your words not mine.

[DV]

It’s easier for fans to think our failures are down to shady goings on than anything else. In some ways they prefer it to be that because then the prospect that things will get better just by changing the ownership.

True.
Unless you’ve got a multibillionaire as owner;a loss making business is still going be a loss making business no matter how many people we hound out because they aren’t bank rolling us with millions.

[Mooneyraker]

True.
Unless you’ve got a multibillionaire as owner;a loss making business is still going be a loss making business no matter how many people we hound out because they aren’t bank rolling us with millions.

And yet we made a profit in Clem's first year...

There is nothing wrong with wanting a lying Chairman who surrounds himself with convicted criminals out of the club.

I really don't get your argument that "it'll always be like this whoever is owner, get over it."

[Bob's Orange]

Maybe Cowley is embracing our Australian owner and suggesting he's unwell, perhaps he has Covid?