New beginnings - 25% Truth, 80% Bollocks

[Jimmy Quinn]

I wonder if Clem stayed up or got up early to watch that shit yesterday🤣

[Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG]

The success that many supporters crave isn't going to happen unless you have someone who can chuck loads of money in each season . No one who is able to do so wants to touch us with a barge pole .

Bollocks.

This is the sort of post that i fucking loathe.

Nobody is asking for us to be Wrexham, we're asking for our money that we put in to the club not to be used on Zav Austins laundering business, Adam Harts sniff business or whatever other ventures the crooks surrounding the club have going these days.

We just want what we put in and gaslighting people in to thinking they're being unreasonable and want a billionaire backer is fucking tiresome. Not only that, the ship has long sailed for most people to even fall for it now.

[Audrey]

I predict our lowest gate of the season on Saturday.

We have to limbo in?

[Jimmy Quinn]

Bollocks.

This is the sort of post that i fucking loathe.

Nobody is asking for us to be Wrexham, we're asking for our money that we put in to the club not to be used on Zav Austins laundering business, Adam Harts sniff business or whatever other ventures the crooks surrounding the club have going these days.

We just want what we put in and gaslighting people in to thinking they're being unreasonable and want a billionaire backer is fucking tiresome. Not only that, the ship has long sailed for most people to even fall for it now.

I totally agree lots of money doesn’t solve everything. Take Stevenage two years ago almost got relegated to the national league until Evans took charge. In his first full season he gets them promoted from league 2 now joint second in league. Man management, decent coaches and motivational skills are needed as much as a decent squad.

[Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG]

100%

Nobody is demanding much.

Its the same defeatist bollocks peddled whenever anyone complains.

[Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG]

Your last comment is the answer to your question. We aren’t a successful business.

We are....just not for what the supporters want. We're successful for the real freeloaders.

[singingiiiffy]

Bollocks.

This is the sort of post that i fucking loathe.

Nobody is asking for us to be Wrexham, we're asking for our money that we put in to the club not to be used on Zav Austins laundering business, Adam Harts sniff business or whatever other ventures the crooks surrounding the club have going these days.

We just want what we put in and gaslighting people in to thinking they're being unreasonable and want a billionaire backer is fucking tiresome. Not only that, the ship has long sailed for most people to even fall for it now.

I can see both sides to this. our fans demand success at league 2 level. our history shows we shouldnt be here for long.

i dont know if i would accept sustainability for being permanently mediocre- i want a club to support but i also want those successful periods and Im not too sure they work together.

i also don't want to accept cheap and lightweight squads that the turnover and crowds dont reflect. we deserve more than we are getting.

if we had shite crowds and clem said this is all we can afford then i can see some more understanding but again i dont think i would be happy, id probably be saying move on and let someone else with money try.

we all know that the clubs needs all year round income, it has needed all year round income for the last 20 years. we need a stadium with assets and we need owners that are going to get us there. if the club produces more money then it is less money they have to put in to bridge the gaps every season.

i feel let down and robbed by clem. he got back the trust after power left and I got a season ticket after many years without because i felt the money would stay with the club and we would see the bank accounts to show that.

[4D]

We have to limbo in?

Limbo and Swindon go hand in hand.

[Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG]

I can see both sides to this. our fans demand success at league 2 level. our history shows we shouldnt be here for long.

i dont know if i would accept sustainability for being permanently mediocre- i want a club to support but i also want those successful periods and Im not too sure they work together.

i also don't want to accept cheap and lightweight squads that the turnover and crowds dont reflect. we deserve more than we are getting.

if we had shite crowds and clem said this is all we can afford then i can see some more understanding but again i dont think i would be happy, id probably be saying move on and let someone else with money try.

we all know that the clubs needs all year round income, it has needed all year round income for the last 20 years. we need a stadium with assets and we need owners that are going to get us there. if the club produces more money then it is less money they have to put in to bridge the gaps every season.

i feel let down and robbed by clem. he got back the trust after power left and I got a season ticket after many years without because i felt the money would stay with the club and we would see the bank accounts to show that.

If we're not getting robbed blind then we should have the resources for league two success. The only club without a rich owner that should have a budget as high as us is  Bradford if we're truly getting out what we're putting in.

Hopefully we're past the point of some playing devils advocate on what Accrington Stanleys sponsors are like now.

[No Longer Posh Red]

The problem is a number of teams do have wealthy owners pumping in a shed load of cash, so can outspend us.

The interesting comparison is Exeter, who are fan owned, and get crowds smaller than us. There average last season was just under 7,000, whereas ours was 9,000. That equates to about 700k a season which we could spend over & above them assuming that costs are roughly similar.

That should be enough to be a mid table league 1 team, which I think most of us would take right now

[Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG]

The problem is a number of teams do have wealthy owners pumping in a shed load of cash, so can outspend us.

The interesting comparison is Exeter, who are fan owned, and get crowds smaller than us. There average last season was just under 7,000, whereas ours was 9,000. That equates to about 700k a season which we could spend over & above them assuming that costs are roughly similar.

That should be enough to be a mid table league 1 team, which I think most of us would take right now

Its definitely a problem but us competing, but its been a useful crutch and excuse to allow the club to confuse fans as to why we can't compete and muddy the waters as to what we're actually asking for. The club moan about inflated wages and rich owners, but we're nowhere near getting our moneys worth outside of that problem.

[Oldwembley69]

I see it’s being reported that Dennis Bergkamp and consortium are looking to buy a L1 club……. Maybe just maybe. Can only hope it stretches to L2!

[Robinz]

I have read back several pages of posts and seems the confusion of what is currently happening is simple..
We are upset that STFC is being taken advantage of by less than honest and untrustworthy business people who have said one thing and done another.
The club onfield is performing as expected at the start of the season. Poor with a few better than average results.
2.5 thousand more paying supporters each home game which is above possible expectations and giving rise for more financial gains for the owner and shareholders to divide..
Unexpected wind fall for the owner is the purchase of the ground especially without any need for raising any capital. Paid by the Eady trust apparently.
We as supporters are rightly disappointed with the season so far because we were told that the club is ours again.
That is where we have been misled.
The club is owned and operated by others.
We are simply paying customers who take no responsibility in the running of the club and either pay or move away if you don't like it.
Sad but true.

[Robinz]

Morfuni saw an opportunity for a UK business and has taken it.
For reasons it has probably been performing better than his expectations financially wise and will keep milking it until we the paying supporters have had enough.
Then the club will be carved up or sold off.
Hope i am wrong but don't think so.

[Crozzer]

Morfuni saw an opportunity for a UK business and has taken it.
For reasons it has probably been performing better than his expectations financially wise and will keep milking it until we the paying supporters have had enough.
Then the club will be carved up or sold off.
Hope i am wrong but don't think so.

Taking Chas's earlier tweet and no walking back by the club by Hall being a total arse, together, along with the "Errol" Flynn contract extension (To stop him picking up another gig with a bigger budget at Ebbsfleet), it appears that the club may in the process of being sold.  Every time Genesini plays, does 10 bob goes to Bournemouth?