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« Reply #7020 on: Monday, October 30, 2023, 17:30:37 »

Interesting piece on Stockports Director of Football who covers a bit about the process the owner took in identifying Stockport as a club to buy and develop.

https://trainingground.guru/articles/simon-wilson-stockport-countys-seven-year-plan

I’m not saying that I do/don’t think SDM was onto something here but I reckon if he’d come out with some explanatory/vision pieces like this following the summer and winter window explaining certain decisions and the longer term vision (to a sensible extent that doesn’t over share) then he’d have gotten a lot less shit here.

He’d have had a hard time giving reasoning for some decisions but if he’d come out with a piece after the January window explaining Reed was moved on due to contract status etc and not wanting to extend and then explained the longer term planning for the squad that gives fans some sense of “there’s a plan here” then it would have allowed fans to buy in more than they did because I think the stats based approach was the right one, just executed poorly.

What happened though was we got the “everyone is up for sale for a price” and “we’re going to sell quickly” side of the sword (which may be true) and fans rightly asked what’s going on.
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« Reply #7021 on: Monday, October 30, 2023, 17:45:29 »

On reading the case summary and decision in the Power vs Standing Fortification request, there is a fantastic conspiracy theory I hadn't properly considered.

Clem provided text messages to the Court in his case against Power that were used in the Power vs Standing one, where Power is befuddled by people talking about Able being on the scene to buy the club.  Power also submitted as evidence, initially, that he'd not seen the letter of intent.

Got me thinking, wonder if someone, like Zav, got pissed off with Power and stitched him up (pretending to be a buyer from overseas).  Knowing that any potential sale would trigger events to enable Clem to step in - all Clem had to do was go to Court to confirm he was a 15% shareholder and therefore would have the right to bid on the remaining shares.

Would explain Zav having a visit to A&E.

The delights of our club ownership!

However it came about, Clem chucked some money in and Power ran off with it and Clem ended up with the club and having to pay a Debenture that had twice been claimed as paid off or purchased.
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« Reply #7022 on: Monday, October 30, 2023, 17:49:40 »

What’s good ‘ol Lee up to these days. Wasn’t he supposed to buying a club in Albania or Bulgaria.
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« Reply #7023 on: Monday, October 30, 2023, 20:33:42 »

What’s good ‘ol Lee up to these days. Wasn’t he supposed to buying a club in Albania or Bulgaria.

Advising Morfuni on how to run a football club...
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« Reply #7024 on: Monday, October 30, 2023, 20:45:55 »

Or how not to
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« Reply #7025 on: Monday, October 30, 2023, 20:50:08 »

What’s good ‘ol Lee up to these days. Wasn’t he supposed to buying a club in Albania or Bulgaria.

"His" STFC car was found in Switzerland. I assume back there he's fucked
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« Reply #7026 on: Monday, October 30, 2023, 20:54:39 »

Believe he’s part of a consortium with Jed McCory and Mike Diamandis looking to buy the club from Clem.
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« Reply #7027 on: Monday, October 30, 2023, 21:58:36 »

Believe he’s part of a consortium with Jed McCory and Mike Diamandis looking to buy the club from Clem.

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« Reply #7028 on: Monday, October 30, 2023, 22:31:30 »

Dream team 😍

No Callum Rice, no party
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« Reply #7029 on: Tuesday, October 31, 2023, 08:49:49 »

I see Carlisle are the latest club to be in line for a takeover from an American company. If they can manage it you'd have thought we could.
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« Reply #7030 on: Tuesday, October 31, 2023, 09:06:44 »

I see Carlisle are the latest club to be in line for a takeover from an American company. If they can manage it you'd have thought we could.

Able would have been an American company - doesn't mean it's a good takeover
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« Reply #7031 on: Tuesday, October 31, 2023, 09:12:45 »

True. 98% of the fans voted for them though, so they must have at least talked a good game.
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« Reply #7032 on: Tuesday, October 31, 2023, 09:13:30 »

I notice a few of the owners from the Far East are having ongoing funding problems.
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« Reply #7033 on: Tuesday, October 31, 2023, 09:18:53 »

It does appear that the consortiums involved in buying football clubs is shifting from asia/middle east towards North America, certainly in the lower leagues with recent takeovers at Gillingham, Walsall, Wycombe I think having yank owners. It won't all be down to what Reynolds and McElhanny have done at Wrexham but I imagine it has woken up quite a lot of American sports investors who have seen what is possible with a football club over here. Tom Brady at Birmingham I guess is the next highest profile investor.

As for us, I think it's evident that we need a clean break from Morfuni and the rest of the gang. I'm unsure whether that's likely until these (seemingly never ending) court cases are done and all the various people that have fingers in the STFC pie have had their pay off. If I had 15-20million to invest in a football club, there are so many pros (ironically i'm not talking about footballers on the payroll here) that you could list about the place - big town, big loyal fanbase, good community ties, big local businesses, good part of the country geographically etc etc.

Sadly the cons, appear to be exactly that, the cons that are behind the scenes doing god only knows what. In my mind, the squad we have and the transfer deadline happenings prove that Clem isn't playing ball anymore. The days of him putting a bucket hat on and pulling pints in the local hostelries are over. I really hope whoever the next incumbent of the football club are, we have a totally clean break. When that might be, fuck only knows.
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« Reply #7034 on: Tuesday, October 31, 2023, 09:31:31 »

On reading the case summary and decision in the Power vs Standing Fortification request, there is a fantastic conspiracy theory I hadn't properly considered.

Clem provided text messages to the Court in his case against Power that were used in the Power vs Standing one, where Power is befuddled by people talking about Able being on the scene to buy the club.  Power also submitted as evidence, initially, that he'd not seen the letter of intent.

Got me thinking, wonder if someone, like Zav, got pissed off with Power and stitched him up (pretending to be a buyer from overseas).  Knowing that any potential sale would trigger events to enable Clem to step in - all Clem had to do was go to Court to confirm he was a 15% shareholder and therefore would have the right to bid on the remaining shares.

Would explain Zav having a visit to A&E.

The delights of our club ownership!

However it came about, Clem chucked some money in and Power ran off with it and Clem ended up with the club and having to pay a Debenture that had twice been claimed as paid off or purchased.

I am not sure whether you are joking or not, but the opportunities for back stabbing are enormous and I have had similar thoughts for quite some time.

What’s good ‘ol Lee up to these days. Wasn’t he supposed to buying a club in Albania or Bulgaria.

A friend of mine is presently doing some work for a close associate of Mr Power, I believe the phrase used is 'biding his time'. 
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