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Title: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, April 29, 2012, 17:42:27
**UPDATED BY NEMO** - 28/06/2022

THE CURRENT SQUAD

OUT OF CONTRACT
New contract decisions pending

2. Akin Odimayo (DRC)
10. Jack Payne (AMRLC)
24. Rob Hunt (D/WBRL)
29. Harry Parsons (ST)

8. Jordan Lyden (MC) - no contract offer but training with the club to regain fitness

UNDER CONTRACT
Contract lengths mostly not announced, but expect 2023 unless stated

3. Ellis Iandolo (DL/MC)
6. Mathieu Baudry (DC) - 2023 confirmed
7. Ben Gladwin (MC)
11. Harry McKirdy (AM/ST)
12. Lewis Ward (GK)
20. Jonny Williams (AMLC)
25. Louis Reed (MC)
28. Ricky Aguiar (MC)
30. Mo Dabre (MF)
32. George Cowmeadow (AML/ST)
34. Harrison Minturn (DC)
TBC. Tyrese Shade (D/MR) -2024
TBC. Sol Brynn (GK) - Season long loan
TBC. Oscar Massey (ST)
TBC. Reece Devine (DL) - 2024


YOUTH PLAYERS
Some may have been released/offered pro terms, the club has not yet announced - does anyone ITK have any idea on these? Presumably there's a new intake too. It seems like they don't even have a squad section on the website anymore.

31. Donny Gordon
33. Levi Francis
35. Callum Winchcombe
36. Anton Dworzak
37. Harvey Fox
38. Tom Wynn-Davis
39. Jed Afenyo
40. Jacob Bunch


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: DiV on Sunday, April 29, 2012, 17:53:19
Esajas, Kerrouche and Lanzano will either be sold or have their contracts paid up as early as possible.

I think Magera will be given pre-season to prove a point and will either stay or go in August.

Phil Smith will be kept as number 2 - which Bedwell as the youth keeper, meaning no deal for Scott. I expect McEvely to come in and thus Kennedy to go. As N.Thompson has been injured for a spell I think he will be given a short term 'prove yourself' extension.

Gabilondo is an odd one. He's played well in place then gone missing and then play well again for a bit. I'd have said he was one his way out - however, he was announced out onto the pitch yesterday which means he received a medal, correct? despite only 4(+6) games. Where as personal feelings aside you can argue that Kerrouche contributed more but didnt.

I know they werent there but I wonder if a medal was kept back for Cibocchi or Billy Bodin (who for the record I thought was out of contract at the end of the season?) or even Magera, Jervis and Ridehalgh who all played more so then McEvely & Holmes.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, April 29, 2012, 17:57:36
Where was Cibocchi because he went out him them last night did he not?


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: DiV on Sunday, April 29, 2012, 17:59:19
I was under the impression he was injured, quite seriously.

He left the gym with his leg strapped up in an ambulance but the club have mentioned nothing about it and Cibo hasnt played since.

No idea if he was out last night...


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: adje on Sunday, April 29, 2012, 18:00:18
that midfield looks a bit weak for league 1


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Berniman on Sunday, April 29, 2012, 18:13:21
I can see 11 players in that list that I believe will be on their way.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, April 29, 2012, 18:14:44
I can see 11 players in that list that I believe will be on their way.

Name the eleven Berniman.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Only Me on Sunday, April 29, 2012, 18:28:43
For what it is worth, this is what I think

CONTRACTED

GOALKEEPERS

Leigh Bedwell - Out
Wes Foderingham
Mattia Lanzano - Out

DEFENDERS

Paul Caddis
Alessandro Cibocchi - Out
Joe Devera
Aden Flint
Alan McCormack

MIDFIELDERS

Lee Cox - Out
Raffa De Vita
Etiënne Esajas - Out
Simon Ferry
Oliver Risser
Matt Ritchie
Luke Rooney
Jonathan Smith

FORWARDS

Paul Benson
Billy Bodin - Out
Alan Connell - Out (Unfortunately PDC doesn't seem to like him - Hope he stays!)
Mehdi Kerrouche - Out
Lukáš Magera
Miles Storey - Out

OUT OF CONTRACT

Lander Gabilondo - Out
Callum Kennedy - Out
Abdul Said - Out
Mark Scott - Out
Phil Smith
Nathan Thompson - Out



Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, April 29, 2012, 18:31:28
Bedwell has signed a new contract.

Alan Connell's career suggests that he's had this problem quite often. Popular with supporters but easy for clubs to dispose of.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Dirk Diggler on Sunday, April 29, 2012, 18:34:52
For what it is worth, this is what I think

CONTRACTED

GOALKEEPERS

Leigh Bedwell - Out
Wes Foderingham
Mattia Lanzano - Out

DEFENDERS

Paul Caddis
Alessandro Cibocchi - Out
Joe Devera
Aden Flint
Alan McCormack

MIDFIELDERS

Lee Cox - Out
Raffa De Vita
Etiënne Esajas - Out
Simon Ferry
Oliver Risser
Matt Ritchie
Luke Rooney
Jonathan Smith

FORWARDS

Paul Benson
Billy Bodin - Out
Alan Connell - Out (Unfortunately PDC doesn't seem to like him - Hope he stays!)
Mehdi Kerrouche - Out
Lukáš Magera
Miles Storey - Out

OUT OF CONTRACT

Lander Gabilondo - Out
Callum Kennedy - Out
Abdul Said - Out
Mark Scott - Out
Phil Smith
Nathan Thompson - Out



Dear oh dear. Bedwell & Storey only signed a contract a week ago. If PDC was going to get rid do you think that he would have bothered signing them to one year contracts?


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: BenTheRed on Sunday, April 29, 2012, 18:35:28
Personally I’d let all but one of the ‘out of contract lot’ go. I don’t believe there is enough potential in the young-uns plus the older ones can easily be replaced or not good enough.

I’d sign smith up again for another season and let Lanzano go

Defenders: we need 2 x left back – a first teamer and a backup. Jay Mc can be the first teamer

Midfield: release easyjet. I’m not sure if cox,  smith and risser will be good enough for league one. I think we need a championship class player, maybe two,  to partner ferry in the middle – so maybe one or two of those three can be backup.

Forwards: let Kerrouche go. If PdC isn’t going to give connnell a proper chance if he plays well then he might as well be sold of too. Give Magera a chance, but have a replacement in mind if things don’t work out come nearer the end of the transfer window. We need a proper partnership next season, a partnership that will piss all over everyone.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: tans on Sunday, April 29, 2012, 18:40:38
I think magera would do better in a higher league.

I reckon kennedy, risser and de vita will stay.

Mcevely to sign.

Lanzano, easyjet, kerrouche all to go.

Cox is injured isnt he?


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Frigby Daser on Sunday, April 29, 2012, 18:48:59
I think we've all learnt not to second guess Paolo. We'll have many a surprise over the next few months...

and whilst Magera may have somthing to offer, I'd be astonished if he wears a Town shirt again.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: otanswell on Sunday, April 29, 2012, 18:50:43
They are all shit...release them all :D


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: BenTheRed on Sunday, April 29, 2012, 18:52:36
I think we've all learnt not to second guess Paolo. We'll have many a surprise over the next few months...

and whilst Magera may have somthing to offer, I'd be astonished if he wears a Town shirt again.

did he leave on bad terms? I can't remember. i hope he's given a chance as it looked like it was just a confidence issue this season


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Only Me on Sunday, April 29, 2012, 18:53:20
Dear oh dear. Bedwell & Storey only signed a contract a week ago. If PDC was going to get rid do you think that he would have bothered signing them to one year contracts?

I didn't know they signed and that surprises me  :-[

BTW - You are quick to highlight my error, yet you don't come up with your own thoughts on who stays / goes. It's easy to only focus on criticality  ::)


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: phelpsieboy on Sunday, April 29, 2012, 18:53:54
After a Paolo pre-season, I feel that Cox and Magera will become key first teamers. Cox has looked classy everytime he has come one and it is undoubted that Magera has bags of talent, and now he is in a league where there is slightly less pressing and pressure, he may flourish.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: stfcinbmth on Sunday, April 29, 2012, 19:09:09
did he leave on bad terms? I can't remember. i hope he's given a chance as it looked like it was just a confidence issue this season


No he didn't, he just wasn't very good


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Sunday, April 29, 2012, 21:01:06
Magera is wank.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: herthab on Sunday, April 29, 2012, 21:04:58
I didn't know they signed and that surprises me  :-[

BTW - You are quick to highlight my error, yet you don't come up with your own thoughts on who stays / goes. It's easy to only focus on criticality  ::)

It's easy when it's you.

What reason did you have to release Bedwell? Seen him play much?

I think the nucleus of our squad will remain but we definitely need to strengthen upfront and in centre midfield.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Sunday, April 29, 2012, 21:07:31
I think there's as much chance of me making a first team appearance next season as Magera.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Arriba on Sunday, April 29, 2012, 21:08:36
Think around a 1/3 of them will go.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: DiV on Sunday, April 29, 2012, 21:44:32
I think there's as much chance of me making a first team appearance next season as Magera.

I dunno.

I think Paolo thinks there is something there. He missed pre-season played well against Vale and got injured. Never quite got too much of a run going.

Think he will be given pre-season - but who knows apart from Paolo.

Absolute top bloke though Magera - not that it counts for anything football wise.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Berniman on Sunday, April 29, 2012, 21:44:58
Name the eleven Berniman.

GOALKEEPERS

Mattia Lanzano

DEFENDERS

Alessandro Cibocchi

MIDFIELDERS

Etiënne Esajas

FORWARDS

Alan Connell
Mehdi Kerrouche
Lukáš Magera

OUT OF CONTRACT

Lander Gabilondo
Callum Kennedy
Abdul Said
Mark Scott
Phil Smith


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, April 29, 2012, 21:50:14
I'm sure Billy Bodin is out of contract


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: joteddyred on Sunday, April 29, 2012, 21:54:19
Quote from: BenTheRed link=topic=47981.msg1074759#msg1074759

Midfield: release easyjet. I’m not sure if cox,  smith and risser will be good enough for league one. I think we need a championship class player, maybe two,  to partner ferry in the middle – so maybe one or two of those three can be backup.


It's difficult to form an opinion on Cox, as have seen very little of him.  A couple of people have put him on the 'out' list, but hasn't he been missing through injury?

I like Smith and think he has the potential to become a really good player.  He's still quite young and I think some of the inconsistencies in his game will improve.  Ferry looks more at ease with Smith alongside him.

Risser has been poor for a fair few games now, I'm not sure why he's played in front of Smith tbh.  He's far too slow and I don't think the effort he puts in will be enough. League 1 will be a step too high for him imo.

The players that aren't wanted, but are still out of contract could be a slight problem.  Most are foreign, which probably means they'll be more difficult to move on.  It's not as if they're getting a run out anywhere to be spotted either.  Will the board make the money available to pay a number of players off, I'm not sure?


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Arriba on Sunday, April 29, 2012, 21:57:57
I'm sure Billy Bodin is out of contract

Think he will go personally.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, April 29, 2012, 22:02:46
Think he will go personally.

Not exactly setting the world alight at Crewe

http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=168&fid=90&sty=2&act=1&mid=2114963472


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: DRS on Sunday, April 29, 2012, 22:06:52
Think he will go aswell along with his dad.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Arriba on Sunday, April 29, 2012, 22:07:19
Torquay will take him


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Only Me on Sunday, April 29, 2012, 22:09:26
It's easy when it's you.

What reason did you have to release Bedwell? Seen him play much?

I think the nucleus of our squad will remain but we definitely need to strengthen upfront and in centre midfield.
To answer your question, no I haven't seem much of Bedwell, that's why I assumed he had no future.

Now if you don't want to contribute to the thread and come up with your list, why come on to this thread?

Oh, it is so you can critisise other people's comments.  :yeahright:


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Sunday, April 29, 2012, 22:58:52
Wouldn't be surprised to see Bostock, McEverley and Holmes added to that list plus Jake Jervis.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Ralphy on Monday, April 30, 2012, 03:20:48
Jervis ?

No thanks.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Spud on Monday, April 30, 2012, 04:00:12
Agree with Ralphy re: Jervis.

We need to be looking at someone who isn't getting a look in at a Championship Club who would be willing to drop a division!


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Monday, April 30, 2012, 06:22:15
I didn't say I 'wanted' Jervis. I said I wouldn't be surprised. Think that PDC seemed to rate him, while he's been burned by 3 other big lumps in Tehoue, Clarke and Magera.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Give us an S on Monday, April 30, 2012, 07:18:18
OUT OF CONTRACT

Billy Bodin - LOAN OUT
Lander Gabilondo - OUT
Callum Kennedy - OUT
Abdul Said - OUT
Mark Scott - OUT
Phil Smith
Nathan Thompson - LOAN OUT

CONTRACTED

GOALKEEPERS

Leigh Bedwell - LOAN OUT
Wes Foderingham
Mattia Lanzano - OUT

Fodders to start with Smith as back up. I would then loan Bedwell out to get experience and see how he does.

DEFENDERS

Paul Caddis
Alessandro Cibocchi - OUT
Joe Devera
Aden Flint
Alan McCormack

I hope we sign McEverly with him and Caddis as the starting full backs. CB is interesting. Whilst McCormack has been probably player of the season, when he makes is runs through the middle he looks so dangerous, so would love to see him in CM. I also think he struggles when we play teams with 2 big strikers. But I would still be more than happy with him at CB, thats just a though. Flint and Devera are both good enough as well and our defensive record speaks for its self, so other than back up in these positions the defence is looking good.

MIDFIELDERS

Lee Cox - OUT
Raffa De Vita - OUT
Etiënne Esajas - OUT
Simon Ferry
Oliver Risser - OUT
Matt Ritchie
Luke Rooney
Jonathan Smith - OUT

Holmes hasn't impressed me except when he played for Oxford against us. I personally prefer Rooney on the left and Ritchie on the right. But I think Holmes could do a job as a back up winger, but needs to improve. De Vita has done a job, but he isn't good enough to be in a promotion pushing league one side. CM is the tough one for me. Ive already mentioned I would like to see McCormack play there, but perhaps the chance of having Bostock he should stay in defence. This man looks class and I really hope we at least get him on loan next season. Such a threat to have through the middle and he looks like he will score goals. Which is my one concern with Ferry. Whilst he is one of our best players, his lack of shooting ability worries me and if we were to get a big strong holding CM in would he be on the bench? I definately think we need a strong big CM in the holding role, Smith and Risser do nothing for me.

FORWARDS

Paul Benson
Alan Connell
Mehdi Kerrouche - OUT
Lukáš Magera - OUT
Miles Storey - LOAN OUT

This is the position which will define our season. Firstly I would loan out all the youngsters, especially Bodin and Storey. We dont want to throw out home grown talent so young, but they need to be out there getting games as neither are good enough to be in the team at the start of next season. We need to sign a strike partnership next season that will score 40+ goals, its as simple as that. If we had the Austin/Paynter partnership next year then we are looking at a top 6 finish. If we dont improve in this position we will be lower middle table. Connell has proven to be a good impact sub and Benson will start some games and come off the bench at times too.



Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Riddick on Monday, April 30, 2012, 08:10:05
Lots of dead wood to shift in the summer in my opinion

Lanzano
Kennedy
Esajas
Risser
Thompson
Cox
Gabilondo
De Vita
P Smith
Cibocchi
Kerrouche
Bodin
Magera

We need a lot to challenge at the right end again.

Need a good back up for Fodds, preferably a young lad

Get McEvely would be excellent, struggle to see too many better LB's in league one. Need a proper CB with higher level experience as well and cover at full backs.

Midfield, if they take Holmes (not sure i would) they need one more winger (right footed) as a starter as not sure Holmes or Rooney will cut it. The CM needs a massive rethink. Big fan of Ferry but he gets bullied some games and doesnt score enough to be the creative player, fits well in the new 4-2-3-1 we are playing though. Need a new Douglass as J Smith will be back up. Getting Bostock on loan again would be brilliant as the one off the front player.

Forwards - they need 2 new players here. Benson will play some games but at 32/33 wont be a 20 goal man in league one. Connell is ok as back up but they need two top forwards to compete. Our best years have had Cox or Parkin or Austin or Mooney or Paynter, and we've got nothing close to that at the moment.

If the ambitions are to challenge for promotion its going to be another busy summer and i reckon we need 9/10 new players. Good thing is PDC likes a signing so its possible. Lets hope his good to bad signing ration picks up a little though and we get rid of some of the dross we currently have.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, April 30, 2012, 08:17:24
Why do people keep saying Cox?

Was it not recently found he is injured and NOT out of favour?


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Benzel on Monday, April 30, 2012, 08:17:39
I really want Kerrouche to stay. Glad he was out there celebrating on Saturday.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: phelpsieboy on Monday, April 30, 2012, 08:23:29
Why do people keep saying Cox?

Was it not recently found he is injured and NOT out of favour?
Exactly! and with the fee we paid for him, its not worth budging him out on the cheap when he clearly has good potential.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, April 30, 2012, 08:49:25
Why do people keep saying Cox?

Was it not recently found he is injured and NOT out of favour?
Spot on, also cancelling players contracts before they end will cost us vast amounts as we will have to pay them up in full unless they accept a mutual cancellation which with greedy footballers hardly ever happens.

So if we cancel easyjets contract and he has signed on £3,000 per week and has a year left on his contract then we will have to pay £150,000 in compensation. Obviously not all players will be on such high wages but you can bet that Risser, Easyjet, Magera, Kerrouche, Gabilondo and Smith would be on good wages. Add that up between the 13 or 14 players that (for example) Give us an S has suggested then it will be in the millions of pounds level.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: carbonwhite on Monday, April 30, 2012, 09:41:45
why J Smith i think hes done alright this season can always improve, dont see why we need to move him on, scored more than douglas thats something


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: nevillew on Monday, April 30, 2012, 09:49:12
I'm not fussed about Holmes to be honest, (Unless we lose Ritchie),there must be some development in Rooney once he's had a good preseason in him.

I think Cox should be an asset once healthy.



Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Samdy Gray on Monday, April 30, 2012, 09:52:18
I don't see what benefit there is to making huge changes to the squad. We have a good nucleus of players here and we saw at the start of this season the time it can take for a new team to gel. I don't really think we need to go through that again.

Genuine question: Did the likes of Swansea and Hull have a high turnover of players when they made their way up the leagues?


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: london_red on Monday, April 30, 2012, 09:59:01
I don't see what benefit there is to making huge changes to the squad. We have a good nucleus of players here and we saw at the start of this season the time it can take for a new team to gel. I don't really think we need to go through that again.

Genuine question: Did the likes of Swansea and Hull have a high turnover of players when they made their way up the leagues?

I'm pretty much of this opinion at the moment. Our performances against teams from higher leagues this season would indicate we're not a million miles from being competitive.

There are probably a couple of areas - CM and ST spring to mind - where the first XI could probably do with one or two stronger players but I don't think another summer with double digits of players in and out would be necessary or helpful.

People have commented throughout the season that the spirit and togetherness of the side marks it out from last year's group, why would you want to disrupt that too much?


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: wiggy on Monday, April 30, 2012, 10:20:45
Let all the out of contract players go except Bodin.

Add Mcevely and Bostock (and maybe Holmes) and then we are just looking to add a goalscorer to go alongside Benson - but we all know that the goalscorer bit is always the hardest.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: BenTheRed on Monday, April 30, 2012, 10:25:32
If bostock stays on another season, do you think we'll change the system slightly for him? so he can play behind the main striker? thats the only place hi see him playing to be fair


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: london_red on Monday, April 30, 2012, 10:31:16
If bostock stays on another season, do you think we'll change the system slightly for him? so he can play behind the main striker? thats the only place hi see him playing to be fair

He managed to get himself in some good positions in the box on saturday, he was just let down by his finishing a bit. With the quality of some of his passing if he could become a bit more clinical don't see why he couldn't be a decent number 10 at league 1 level.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, April 30, 2012, 10:40:27
Have been impressed with McEveley on the few occasions I have seen him. Hope he signs, looks like he'll be a classy addition.

Bostock was very impressive on Saturday and a season long loan for him would be a good piece of business.

I'd bin Risser as well. Everytime I have seen him play he has been poor. I thought Smith was much better in the time he was on the field than Risser.

It is certainly going to be interesting though!!


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, April 30, 2012, 11:11:19
I feel sorry for Risser.

He's the guy that gets groans from some fans every time he does something but when other more popular players do the same things, they get no form of abuse.

I think there's a place for Risser but it's probably not as a regular.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Swindon Please Win on Monday, April 30, 2012, 11:14:17
I feel sorry for Risser.

He's the guy that gets groans from some fans every time he does something but when other more popular players do the same things, they get no form of abuse.

I think there's a place for Risser but it's probably not as a regular.

There was a game where Risser was forced to play centreback, I can't remember agaisnt who, but he played very well got man of the match in the end, if he built on that performance at centreback he could be a decent back-up.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: wiggy on Monday, April 30, 2012, 11:15:31
I don't feel sorry for Risser, and I don't think the groans are any louder if he misplaces a pass than if Ferry misplaces a pass - just that it happens more often.

Sometimes 100% effort is let down by a lack of talent.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, April 30, 2012, 11:15:47
There was a game where Risser was forced to play centreback, I can't remember agaisnt who, but he played very well got man of the match in the end, if he built on that performance at centreback he could be a decent back-up.

His centre back role was certainly improving... then he scored that own goal and that was that.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Monday, April 30, 2012, 11:15:50
get rid of Foderingham & bring in David James


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: steveg on Monday, April 30, 2012, 11:48:29
Lets not forget Marlon Packs imminent arrival ;D


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, April 30, 2012, 11:50:34
What's with the whole Marlon Pack thing?

Is it because he's good?
Is it because he's Ritchie's chum?
Is it because we're actually interested in him?


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: steveg on Monday, April 30, 2012, 11:56:22
In a nutshell?! All of them!!


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Power to people on Monday, April 30, 2012, 12:01:34
Ok, so we have a few fringe players that if we recieved approaches then perhaps we would listen, I'd also let the out of contract players other than Smith leave as I think he can be decent cover for Wes.

I cannot help though thinking that we will end up having to sell one of our better players to ensure we keep the rest of them, I know what Wray has said about not selling but if we have provided PDC with quite a bit of money this season and he is going to want more for next season the money has to come from somewhere and once we have sold one player for e.g. £2m then we can say nobody else is for sale regardless of offer as we dont need the money.

Our priority has to be though to do our best to keep, Wes, Caddis, Ferry and hopefully Ritchie,and then probably Flint & McCormack and Devera our defence has been solid this season and should be good enough for L1


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, April 30, 2012, 12:07:22

the money has to come from somewhere


Somewhere like our board's very deep pockets, perhaps?


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: THE FLASH on Monday, April 30, 2012, 12:15:18
Be gutted to see Storey go....he tore Crawley a new Arse that night.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, April 30, 2012, 12:17:19
Be gutted to see Storey go....he tore Crawley a new Arse that night.

Why would that happen when he's just signed a contract?


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Give us an S on Monday, April 30, 2012, 12:49:23
Spot on, also cancelling players contracts before they end will cost us vast amounts as we will have to pay them up in full unless they accept a mutual cancellation which with greedy footballers hardly ever happens.

So if we cancel easyjets contract and he has signed on £3,000 per week and has a year left on his contract then we will have to pay £150,000 in compensation. Obviously not all players will be on such high wages but you can bet that Risser, Easyjet, Magera, Kerrouche, Gabilondo and Smith would be on good wages. Add that up between the 13 or 14 players that (for example) Give us an S has suggested then it will be in the millions of pounds level.


I didnt say to cancel all their contracts, that would be ridiculous. But attempt to sell the players. I would hope most footballers would still choose first team football over money so if we can find clubs for at least some of these players then its better than them wasting a season of their career and clogging up our wage bill. They simply aren't good enough to be in a league one side, especially because our ambition will be a top 6 finish.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: london_red on Monday, April 30, 2012, 13:00:43
I would hope most footballers would still choose first team football over money

Unfortunately, I'm not sure that's the case.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, April 30, 2012, 13:46:08
Have the club indicated that negotiations could start regarding contract extensions for the players with one year left? 


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Sippo on Monday, April 30, 2012, 13:52:48
I think PDC will want to get rid of a lot of players over the summer especially after the antics from the weekend before.

We haven't played superbly for a while, but have grinded out results.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Ginginho on Monday, April 30, 2012, 13:58:25
Yeah, we ground out a gritty 5-0 win on Saturday.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Sippo on Monday, April 30, 2012, 13:59:10
Apart from Sat you fool...you know what I mean.



Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, April 30, 2012, 14:18:31
A side question: I read somewhere that the Football League were going back to seven subs next season... Is this true?


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Berniman on Monday, April 30, 2012, 14:22:51
Apparently


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Ginginho on Monday, April 30, 2012, 14:37:14
Apart from Sat you fool...you know what I mean.



Hehe, I knew what you meant ;)

I tend to agree, but with injuries (Ritchie, Caddis, Benson) over the past few weeks and with the whole Paolo dropping the players for a night out debacle, the first XI has not been at it's strongest.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: nevillew on Monday, April 30, 2012, 14:54:08
Have the club indicated that negotiations could start regarding contract extensions for the players with one year left? 

Leave that to DV won't you ?


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: jonny72 on Monday, April 30, 2012, 15:50:11
Will be interesting to see what happens with Bostock. I'm sure PDC wants him (tried to get him on loan earlier in the season) and he fills the attacking midfielder role which we have been missing and adds another option (and PDC loves options).

Difficult to read how Tottenham will play it though. All of his previous loan spells have been disasters due to his attitude, yet he seems to have possibly turned that corner now with us. He only has a year left on his contract with them and all he really has is the great potential tag from a few years back having never really delivered.

Got to be a good chance of a season long loan (with Tottenham giving him a year or two extension first) but I wouldn't rule out a permanent signing either as it's possible Tottenham have run out of patience and will cut him loose.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: herthab on Monday, April 30, 2012, 15:51:15
To answer your question, no I haven't seem much of Bedwell, that's why I assumed he had no future.

Now if you don't want to contribute to the thread and come up with your list, why come on to this thread?

Oh, it is so you can critisise other people's comments.  :yeahright:

Fuck me, someone's hormonal. Time of the month?


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Monday, April 30, 2012, 16:42:43
Difficult to read how Tottenham will play it though. All of his previous loan spells have been disasters due to his attitude

I keep thinking he must have been at the very least slightly hard done by being given this tag. His attitude has been first class since he's been here and as far as we know just kept his head down without being in the team straight away.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Berniman on Monday, April 30, 2012, 16:51:58
Will be interesting to see what happens with Bostock. I'm sure PDC wants him (tried to get him on loan earlier in the season) and he fills the attacking midfielder role which we have been missing and adds another option (and PDC loves options).

Difficult to read how Tottenham will play it though. All of his previous loan spells have been disasters due to his attitude, yet he seems to have possibly turned that corner now with us. He only has a year left on his contract with them and all he really has is the great potential tag from a few years back having never really delivered.

Got to be a good chance of a season long loan (with Tottenham giving him a year or two extension first) but I wouldn't rule out a permanent signing either as it's possible Tottenham have run out of patience and will cut him loose.

Well Harry not getting the England job must help us in this instance.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Only Me on Monday, April 30, 2012, 17:10:57
Fuck me, someone's hormonal. Time of the month?

Not at all, just say it as I see it


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: herthab on Monday, April 30, 2012, 17:19:42
Not at all, just say it as I see it

Yeah, that's what I was doing too...


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Power to people on Monday, April 30, 2012, 19:53:50
Somewhere like our board's very deep pockets, perhaps?

Yep, but they are not putting their hard earned money in for the love of it they are going to want it back one day, the ground redevelopment will obviously help them to see a return it also keep the debts down as it all goes down as money owed.

Just trying to inject a bit of reality into the situation


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Arriba on Monday, April 30, 2012, 20:18:23
Yep, but they are not putting their hard earned money in for the love of it they are going to want it back one day, the ground redevelopment will obviously help them to see a return it also keep the debts down as it all goes down as money owed.

Just trying to inject a bit of reality into the situation

People don't get a return from football. I'm sure they know that


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: jonny72 on Monday, April 30, 2012, 20:47:33
I keep thinking he must have been at the very least slightly hard done by being given this tag. His attitude has been first class since he's been here and as far as we know just kept his head down without being in the team straight away.

I read up on him on some forums and it was pretty consistent, plus at least one club decided against extending his loan. The interview with him backed it up as well, came across that he knew he'd been a bit of a twat and it was time to get his head down as he was running out of chances.

Can't be easy for him though, being billed as the next big thing and then it not working out must be hard to handle. Again, you have to question the people advising him, moving to Tottenham was probably the worst thing he could have done.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: DiV on Monday, April 30, 2012, 20:49:31
Its always better to get first team footballer at a smaller club than to play under 18s and reserve football for a big Premiership Club.

Should have stayed at Palace still about now...


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Batch on Monday, April 30, 2012, 20:58:03
Its always better to get first team footballer at a smaller club than to play under 18s and reserve football for a big Premiership Club.

Should have stayed at Palace still about now...

From a football point of view, yes. From a bank balance point of view, no.

Don't know if that was the motivator for him. I just think of Henshall's move to City. He'll get better coaching there but will he really break into the City first team. I just can't see it. But he'll probably be minted.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, April 30, 2012, 21:01:06
Yep, but they are not putting their hard earned money in for the love of it they are going to want it back one day, the ground redevelopment will obviously help them to see a return it also keep the debts down as it all goes down as money owed.

Just trying to inject a bit of reality into the situation

The point is that they don't haveto sell first in order to buy

They can buy players with a view to selling at a later date without having to pop down to the pawn shop to pay the leccy bill in the mean time. They'll get their money back in time. The likes of Ritchie, Ferry and Caddis will (very likely) be sold, at a tidy profit, and the board have no reason to be in a rush to get the money back quickly.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: DRS on Monday, April 30, 2012, 21:04:55
Those 3 players mentioned will be our biggest signings of the summer if they all sign new deals.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: DiV on Monday, April 30, 2012, 21:06:46
From a football point of view, yes. From a bank balance point of view, no.

Don't know if that was the motivator for him. I just think of Henshall's move to City. He'll get better coaching there but will he really break into the City first team. I just can't see it. But he'll probably be minted.

...and whats Henshall done since? nothing yet.

Plus, short term he might be minted - but if he doesnt develop and ends up falling down the leagues then he's losing out on earnings he might have got if he'd worked his way up instead of down.

Of course, nothing is as black and white as that but you get the point.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: cheltred69 on Monday, April 30, 2012, 21:07:19
I just think of Henshall's move to City. He'll get better coaching there but will he really break into the City first team. I just can't see it. But he'll probably be minted.

Probably not minted in terms of set up for llife but certainly more cash than a typical 18-21 year old could even imagine having.

Even if he doesn't break into City 1st team (which I agree is highly unlikely) but with the better coaching must expect to have a better chance of developing a career at prem / championship level than if he'd stayed at Swindon.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Batch on Monday, April 30, 2012, 21:13:12
Even if he doesn't break into City 1st team (which I agree is highly unlikely) but with the better coaching must expect to have a better chance of developing a career at prem / championship level than if he'd stayed at Swindon.

I agree, he's got a reasonable wedge and better coaching. And that seems to be more important than proving himself on the pitch and working his way up the leagues. Take it up front and hope he gets something on the way down.

And I reckon that is why the likes of Paul Benson show 1000 times more commitment and effort than the likes of Frank Nouble. The latter appreciates it more.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: cheltred69 on Monday, April 30, 2012, 21:17:42
At the end of the day if the attitude isn't there, regardless of talent and help via quality coaching / advice etc. then its a rare player who will succeed.
I guess the point is that lads might get their heads turned being at a top club and think they've made it when they're just starting, but that probably happens with kids at Swindon too!


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Batch on Monday, April 30, 2012, 21:35:42
. The likes of Ritchie, Ferry and Caddis will (
Those 3 players mentioned will be our biggest signings of the summer if they all sign new deals.

Definitely. But if they do move on then they deserve a lot of credit from us fans. They were least culpable in last years shambles yet had enough bollocks to stay and put it right.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, April 30, 2012, 21:45:08
Definitely. But if they do move on then they deserve a lot of credit from us fans. They were least culpable in last years shambles yet had enough bollocks to stay and put it right.

They still have a year left?

I can see....

A) Contracts extended
or
B) Being sold

I think it's fair to say that if the players are not willing for A, then he will fully endorse B.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Batch on Monday, April 30, 2012, 21:53:33
They still have a year left? 
Yup, in fact a LOT of our first team squad only have a year left. McCormack, Devera, Flint, Smith, De Vita, Connell + those 3.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, April 30, 2012, 21:56:01
I would certainly hope that the club won't review all of those contracts in January.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, April 30, 2012, 22:00:54
I would certainly hope that the club won't review all of those contracts in January.

I have no doubt they would have learned from what happened with Billy Paynter


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, April 30, 2012, 22:02:30
The mood is good, the time is now.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Batch on Monday, April 30, 2012, 22:02:39
I have no doubt they would have learned from what happened with Billy Paynter

That DV will go on about it for the next 6 months ?

:)


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, May 1, 2012, 02:19:41
That DV will go on about it for the next 6 months ?

:)

We let him go on a free and the following season got relegated.

A Paolo pre-season and he'd still do a job for us in L1


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: cheltred69 on Tuesday, May 1, 2012, 07:44:12
I think certainly for Ferry, Ritchie & Caddis we need to either extend their contracts or sell them this summer.
Otherwise we'll either end up losing a la Paynter or selling in the Jan window at a cut price when there's little opportunity to replace adequately.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, May 1, 2012, 07:47:57
Sell in January if need be. No need to dismantle this team.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Posh Red on Tuesday, May 1, 2012, 08:24:16
I can't imagine Stevenage dismantled & rebuilt their squad after promotion, and it doesn't appear to have caused them too many problems.

There are obviously some players that are done as they haven't been involved with the first team squad for a while (Easyjet, Kerrouche, Lanzano and some others), but I can see most of the current squad still being here at the start of the season.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: tans on Tuesday, May 1, 2012, 12:30:23
Out of interest, how much did we pay for Matt Ritchie?


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: pericarp on Tuesday, May 1, 2012, 12:32:51
Out of interest, how much did we pay for Matt Ritchie?

I remember the figure 300k. Somewhere around that maybe?


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Ginginho on Tuesday, May 1, 2012, 12:35:24
It was undisclosed but rumoured to be approx £200K (according to swindon-town-fc.co.uk)


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: tans on Tuesday, May 1, 2012, 12:40:48
That much?

I only thought it was something like 50k and addons


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, May 1, 2012, 12:57:42
I heard from a Pompey fan it was £100k up front plus add ons up to £200k.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: RWB Robin on Tuesday, May 1, 2012, 13:47:57
Going back to Bostock, I was with someone yesterday who knows him very well indeed, ad he said he was enjoying being here and would be ready to stay for next season (where he has been very unhappy with other loans).  He also said (with some professional knowledge and experience) that he is the best player he has seen in that position (behind the striker) and should really (and could) be playing in top-class European team - France or Italy, which would probably suit his skill and style better - in a relatively short time.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: DRS on Tuesday, May 1, 2012, 15:33:48
Sounds like john has a very good agent


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, May 1, 2012, 17:14:27
Bostock isn't going to get close to the Spurs line-up so we shall see.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Power to people on Wednesday, May 2, 2012, 11:34:38
I think certainly for Ferry, Ritchie & Caddis we need to either extend their contracts or sell them this summer.
Otherwise we'll either end up losing a la Paynter or selling in the Jan window at a cut price when there's little opportunity to replace adequately.

Perhaps offer them a new contract with the proviso that they can leave if we are not challenging and a good offer is made for them, cant risk them only having a year left then leaving for nowt


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: RWB Robin on Thursday, May 3, 2012, 09:37:28
Sounds like john has a very good agent

Pretty sure he is not his agent (could be wrong), but he would have no particular reason for 'selling' him to me - we were talking about something totally different...  Anyway, as Costanza says, we shall see....


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, May 7, 2012, 08:48:49
Retained list can't be that far away now.

Hopefully securing the services of Holmes and McEveley won't be a drawn out affair.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: FormerlyPlymRed on Monday, May 7, 2012, 11:02:05
Retained list can't be that far away now.

Hopefully securing the services of Holmes and McEveley won't be a drawn out affair.
Holmes has disappointed me in most of the games I've seen him play, hopefully after a Paolo pre-season he can improve.

Saying that, I might just have had very high expectations of him :hmmm:


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Posh Red on Monday, May 7, 2012, 11:08:21
Holmes has disappointed me in most of the games I've seen him play, hopefully after a Paolo pre-season he can improve.

Saying that, I might just have had very high expectations of him :hmmm:

I think he looks better on the right, when he switched to the left he was much less effective.
I think this is partly because he always has to cut inside which is easier to defend.
Just remember how much better Ritchie looks on the left when he has Caddis overlapping, when that wasn't an option he (and we as a team), looked far more predicatble.

The way he beat the Port Vale FB and the cross for the third goal was very good.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: FormerlyPlymRed on Monday, May 7, 2012, 11:10:09
I think he looks better on the right, when he switched to the left he was much less effective.
I think this is partly because he always has to cut inside which is easier to defend.
Just remember how much better Ritchie looks on the left when he has Caddis overlapping, when that wasn't an option he (and we as a team), looked far more predicatble.

The way he beat the Port Vale FB and the cross for the third goal was very good.
Have you got your lefts and rights mixed up?  ;)


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Posh Red on Monday, May 7, 2012, 11:14:00
Have you got your lefts and rights mixed up?  ;)

Oops, That's what you get for being a defender  :-[


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, May 10, 2012, 15:40:48
So the first official player out of the door is Abdul Said. Please hold back your posts of shock.

 :eek:


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: corner on Thursday, May 10, 2012, 18:02:07
Billy Bodin has been called up as standby for the Welsh senior squad for friendly v Mexico on May 27 #stfc. Fantastic achievement


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Abrahammer on Thursday, May 10, 2012, 18:08:45
Billy Bodin has been called up as standby for the Welsh senior squad for friendly v Mexico on May 27 #stfc. Fantastic achievement

Pleased for him, his old man will be well chuffed if he gets in.

Probably doesn't reflect well on the depth on their squad though.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: chrisser on Thursday, May 10, 2012, 18:24:40
Same date as the L2 play off final which he could be involved in with Crewe.  Potential dilemma...


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, May 10, 2012, 19:08:15
Good signs for Bodin's international future.

Can't see him staying at Town beyond the summer though.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, May 15, 2012, 09:22:22
Good signs for Bodin's international future.

Can't see him staying at Town beyond the summer though.

Well shut my mouth.

Update made. Can this thread be stickied or whatever the kids call it?


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Langers on Tuesday, May 15, 2012, 14:08:31
Looks like Phil Smith is leaving. Was he out of contract?

philip smith ‏ @smudgeegghead
A truly horrible day!! But could be the best thing in the world to happen!


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: [email protected] on Tuesday, May 15, 2012, 14:20:48
Just read that myself.  On one hand it would be a shame to see a loyal servant of the club leave, but on the other hand I can't see him ousting Wes anytime soon.

If he does leave, I wish him the best going forward.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, May 15, 2012, 14:33:17
Maybe PDC fancies Leigh Bedwell to be good enough as our reserve keeper.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Kinky Tom on Tuesday, May 15, 2012, 14:35:10
david james... ;)


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, May 15, 2012, 14:46:41
Just read that myself.  On one hand it would be a shame to see a loyal servant of the club leave, but on the other hand I can't see him ousting Wes anytime soon.

If he does leave, I wish him the best going forward.

You expect him to play up front?


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Processed Beats on Tuesday, May 15, 2012, 14:48:49
Been a good servant for the club and, despite being somewhat of a permanent scapegoat with some fans, is a decent 'keeper. I know I for one will never forget that night at The Valley. All the best Smithy!


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, May 15, 2012, 15:18:05
He had to move on, the scapegoating got out of hand at some times when he played.  It will do him good as he is good enough to be a first choice at a Lge 2 club, maybe even some lge 1 clubs.


Title: Re: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 15, 2012, 16:26:46
My lad will be disappointed if true, he just started helping with fitc coaching.

I'd have kept him as a #2 if he was happy to take that on. Good keeper when on form and confident, helped us to Wembley twice too.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: tans on Tuesday, May 15, 2012, 16:27:43
2 years for billy bodin apparently


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Coca Fola on Tuesday, May 15, 2012, 16:45:58
Sad news about Phil Smith leaving, great servant to the club. I would have kept him as back up to Wes personally.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, May 15, 2012, 16:49:26
Is this confirmed?

BEWARE David James BEWARE


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: DRS on Tuesday, May 15, 2012, 16:54:59
Would like to keep him but being honest he knows he is 2nd choice now.Before he was always challenging.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Tuesday, May 15, 2012, 16:56:12
If Smith is leaving I wish him all the best. He's been a brilliant servant to this club.


Title: Re: Re: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Frigby Daser on Tuesday, May 15, 2012, 17:05:05
Maybe PDC fancies Leigh Bedwell to be good enough as our reserve keeper.

I would have thought Mark Scott will be.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, May 15, 2012, 17:06:58
With Lanzano still on the books I suppose the club have to stick with what they've got.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: barry85 on Tuesday, May 15, 2012, 17:13:04
Personally I dont think that Nathan Thompson is good enough for L1 and should have been let go. 

I wonder how much him getting a new contract is down to the fact that he shares the same agent as PDC as does Louis Thompson.  I do know that one of the current youth team players was contacted by said agent earlier this year with the promise that 'if you sign up with me you'll be fast tracked into the first team'..........


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, May 15, 2012, 17:16:54
Personally I dont think that Nathan Thompson is good enough for L1 and should have been let go. 

I wonder how much him getting a new contract is down to the fact that he shares the same agent as PDC as does Louis Thompson.  I do know that one of the current youth team players was contacted by said agent earlier this year with the promise that 'if you sign up with me you'll be fast tracked into the first team'..........

What you've described is the football industry.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: slinky on Tuesday, May 15, 2012, 17:22:48
Really not surprised about the Smith news.  Knew something was up at the party on the pitch.  Looked very withdrawn and didn't take part in the celebrations.

Would like to wish him good luck for the future.  Will never forget the saves in the JPT penalties.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Swindon Please Win on Tuesday, May 15, 2012, 17:45:32
After his performance in the Charlton game I can never say a bad thing about him, would of been a brilliant number 2 but maybe his performance agaisnt Gillingham was the final nail in the coffin. Good luck to him seems a genuinely nice guy.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: leefer on Tuesday, May 15, 2012, 17:47:28
After his performance in the Charlton game I can never say a bad thing about him, would of been a brilliant number 2 but maybe his performance agaisnt Gillingham was the final nail in the coffin. Good luck to him seems a genuinely nice guy.

Spot on......Crawley may want him back.





Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Coca Fola on Tuesday, May 15, 2012, 18:23:39
With Lanzano still on the books I suppose the club have to stick with what they've got.
What is the deal with Lanzano? He was originally meant to leave in January but never did.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: cheltred69 on Tuesday, May 15, 2012, 18:41:37
If Smithy is leaving, best luck for the future and thanks for the last few years.
I'm sure he can do a good job for a league club seeking an experienced keeper with a good few years left in him.
Don't think it will be Crawley as I think they've offered new contracts to both of their keepers.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Dazzza on Tuesday, May 15, 2012, 22:07:54
Good luck to Smithy, top bloke and I hope he gets fixed up with a good club. 

Deserves a good run at number one at this stage in his career and its hard to see him getting that with Wes on form.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: otanswell on Wednesday, May 16, 2012, 21:26:26
Well it looks like Flint, Connell, Kennedy and Devera are enjoying the sunshine according to Flint's facebook


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, May 16, 2012, 21:28:49
Haven't they all just got from Vegas? Flint and Foderingham have been whining about their return.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: otanswell on Wednesday, May 16, 2012, 21:33:43
I guess so


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: red socks on Wednesday, May 16, 2012, 22:49:14
Sad to see Phil smith go if true, as others have said great servant and seemed to be a top bloke too, hope he gets the club/place he deserves. If your reading this Phil all the best.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Bogus Dave on Thursday, May 17, 2012, 14:57:46
"Gutted to be leaving swindon after 6 years thank you for all the support and wish all the players and staff all the best in the future. And thank you to jeremy wray for showing me some respect for ringing me and telling me other than the manager who doesn't have the guts!!!"

Smith, Phil. 2012.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, May 17, 2012, 14:59:51
A loyal servant.

The final piece of the Dennis Wise era, gone.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, May 17, 2012, 15:08:48
Did Smith delete the PDC dig?


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: tans on Thursday, May 17, 2012, 15:10:01
Ooh a parting shot at the manager.

To be fair though, he has a point


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: tans on Thursday, May 17, 2012, 15:10:17
looks like it rich


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Peacocks-Lucky-Coat on Thursday, May 17, 2012, 15:11:01
If Paolo didn't let him know, then I would be a bit disappointed. Phil Smith is a top bloke, and loved the club, regardless of the criticism he's come under during his time with us.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, May 17, 2012, 15:11:14
looks like it rich

Hehe coward.

Or PDC called shortly afterwards :)


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Coca Fola on Thursday, May 17, 2012, 15:15:07
Great servant to the club. Who's our longest serving player now then?


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Ginginho on Thursday, May 17, 2012, 15:15:41
Kennedy, maybe?


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Coca Fola on Thursday, May 17, 2012, 15:16:08
Kennedy, maybe?
When did he sign a pro contract?


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: tans on Thursday, May 17, 2012, 15:17:56
Quote from: Phil Smith
because he couldn't be bothered to even ring me and tell me I think I deserve at least that whatever you may think of me

Bit naughty that


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, May 17, 2012, 15:18:01
When did he sign a pro contract?

2008. When loads of them did.

http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/Person.asp?PersonID=KENNEDYC


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Coca Fola on Thursday, May 17, 2012, 15:19:30
2008. When loads of them did.

http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/Person.asp?PersonID=KENNEDYC
So him and Mark Scott and are now the longest serving players. I find it funny that the joint longest serving player has never even made an appearance.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Gnasher on Thursday, May 17, 2012, 15:19:37
All the best Smithy. And good luck in your new venture (odd choice for someone with no hair)

[url width=114 height=300]http://images.mysupermarket.co.uk/ProductsDetailed/50/180250.jpg[/url]


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, May 17, 2012, 15:21:29
So him and Mark Scott and are now the longest serving players. I find it funny that the joint longest serving player has never even made an appearance.

I wonder what the record is? 5 seasons of professional football without making an appearance.

I've never wanted Mark Scott to sign a new deal more.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Shaw Rosso on Thursday, May 17, 2012, 15:22:02
Seems Smithy is typing his replies to people and deleting them within a couple of minutes.

I like Smithy, outside of football too, but the outpouring of grief on Twitter is a bit nauseating.

Good luck Phil


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, May 17, 2012, 15:23:24
I wished him luck, no more than that.

Phil is trying to be the 'better man'.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRolAqdolMU


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Shaw Rosso on Thursday, May 17, 2012, 15:26:28
Why PDC never gave Smithy the call himself.............

@smudgeegghead @JamesHolman92 tbh smithy i think tht di canio has alot on his plate bout the Jonathan Tehoue stuff #JustSaying

I get a feeling Paolo really does have his own unique way of doing things


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, May 17, 2012, 15:28:59
Why PDC never gave Smithy the call himself.............

@smudgeegghead @JamesHolman92 tbh smithy i think tht di canio has alot on his plate bout the Jonathan Tehoue stuff #JustSaying

I get a feeling Paolo really does have his own unique way of doing things

I doubt that is the reason why.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: jonny72 on Thursday, May 17, 2012, 15:31:27
Can someone provide a list of all the players Twitter accounts, or update the squad list with them?

I'm shit on Twitter and can never find any of them.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Coca Fola on Thursday, May 17, 2012, 15:33:05
I wonder what the record is? 5 seasons of professional football without making an appearance.

I've never wanted Mark Scott to sign a new deal more.
4 years and 3 months. Impressive.  :toocool:


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: tans on Thursday, May 17, 2012, 15:41:10

I like Smithy, outside of football too, but the outpouring of grief on Twitter is a bit nauseating.


Couldnt agree more.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, May 17, 2012, 15:43:01
Good luck to him, but naught that the manager couldn't phone him and tell him out of respect

Hope it does not mean Scott is 2nd cohice, I'd like someone that has the capability of giving Wes competition to push him so he is kept on his toes knowing a few dodgy games and someone is waiting in the wings


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: tans on Thursday, May 17, 2012, 15:45:25
Scott will go i reckon, as they just signed Bedwell up as a pro. I think we will sign another keeper pre season


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Ardiles on Thursday, May 17, 2012, 15:46:14
Can someone provide a list of all the players Twitter accounts, or update the squad list with them?

I'm shit on Twitter and can never find any of them.

Don't do it!  I joined twitter about a month ago and added a stack of players to follow.  I promptly unfollowed them all again a week or two later.

I think the straw that broke the camel's back was Wes' revelation one evening that, for once, the ladies in his gym were looking mighty fine.  Whilst I was, naturally, chuffed for our esteemed stopper...I realised that I couldn't really give a s**t about the ladies in his gym.  I still follow Fraser though, who is better.  Although he does bang on about the Premiership quite a lot.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, May 17, 2012, 15:56:59
Has Lanzano officially been released?


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: tans on Thursday, May 17, 2012, 15:58:35
Not that i know of. I reckon he will just disappear into the abyss


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: SuggWillSugg MBE on Thursday, May 17, 2012, 17:33:41
"Just wanna say I've enjoyed every minute and I'm really guna miss Swindon. Thank you to everyone the support has been great #back2backpromo"


Sounds like Mark Scott is off too.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Langers on Thursday, May 17, 2012, 17:47:26
"Just wanna say I've enjoyed every minute and I'm really guna miss Swindon. Thank you to everyone the support has been great #back2backpromo"

Sounds like Mark Scott is off too.

No surprises there then. Best of luck to Phil Smith, will never forget that night at the Valley.



Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Processed Beats on Thursday, May 17, 2012, 17:54:33
"Just wanna say I've enjoyed every minute and I'm really guna miss Swindon. Thank you to everyone the support has been great #back2backpromo"


Sounds like Mark Scott is off too.

Meh, not too disheartened by this one.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, May 17, 2012, 17:56:59
I'd be mildly concerned if you were.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: tans on Thursday, May 17, 2012, 18:01:12
I'd be mildly concerned if you were.

Wheres the outpouring of grief?!


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: ronnie21 on Thursday, May 17, 2012, 18:13:17
Ooh a parting shot at the manager.

To be fair though, he has a point
To be fair as well, Mr Wray usually does all the negotiating after targets have been identified, so perhaps as well as the hiring he is responsible for the firing!


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, May 17, 2012, 18:15:31
As long as he heard the news from someone at the club.

With the assumption that Gabilondo is gone. Callum Kennedy is the only high profile name who could walk today/tomorrow.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: thedarkprince on Thursday, May 17, 2012, 18:27:39
Hahaha... high profile.  Good one.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, May 17, 2012, 18:28:44
Be nice  :girlgiggle:


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Thursday, May 17, 2012, 18:39:55
So Scott and Smith gone. No surprises there. That leaves Gabilondo and Kennedy as the 2 left who's futures have yet to be decided. Reckon both could be off to be honest.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, May 17, 2012, 18:41:52
I'm interested to see what will be done with the exiled players.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Posh Red on Thursday, May 17, 2012, 18:45:50
"Gutted to be leaving swindon after 6 years thank you for all the support and wish all the players and staff all the best in the future. And thank you to jeremy wray for showing me some respect for ringing me and telling me other than the manager who doesn't have the guts!!!"

Smith, Phil. 2012.

Wouldn't be surprised if Paolo did call him, it was just that when Smith went to pick up the phone he dropped it.



My opinion of Smith hasn't changed for a long time, an able backup who can have good games, but a liability if you were going to rely on him all season.

With him & Scott gone, and Lanzano out of the picture it does make you wonder if there is anything in the David James rumours. 


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Thursday, May 17, 2012, 18:53:20
I'm interested to see what will be done with the exiled players.

I'm guessing we're hoping they come back more committed in pre season. If not then we'll try and find a club to take them. Paying them off will just set us back a few bob which we may be able to avoid.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, May 17, 2012, 18:56:15
I'm guessing we're hoping they come back more committed in pre season. If not then we'll try and find a club to take them. Paying them off will just set us back a few bob which we may be able to avoid.

Including Gabilondo and Kennedy, Di Canio has a 26 (1 paid by Samsung) man squad of professionals. If he wants to bring people then surely to goodness we've got to get the likes of Esajas, Kerrouche and Lanzano out?

Obviously there are players who featured often who might leave if a bid comes in.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: stfcinbmth on Thursday, May 17, 2012, 20:00:44
Can someone provide a list of all the players Twitter accounts, or update the squad list with them?

I'm shit on Twitter and can never find any of them.

This may help jonny

http://thetownend.com/index.php/topic,47891.msg1071792.html#msg1071792


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, May 17, 2012, 20:16:50
I've put the twitter accounts on the original post.

I think Simon Ferry is MIA again though.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Baggins on Thursday, May 17, 2012, 20:24:08
Including Gabilondo and Kennedy, Di Canio has a 26 (1 paid by Samsung) man squad of professionals. If he wants to bring people then surely to goodness we've got to get the likes of Esajas, Kerrouche and Lanzano out?

Obviously there are players who featured often who might leave if a bid comes in.

Agreed.  I think the hangover of some of last summer's ineffective signing will be a slower summer this time around.  Players need to leave before more can come in.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, May 17, 2012, 23:12:29
As it stands... Pretty colours and all.

THE SQUAD

GOALKEEPERS (3)

Leigh Bedwell (2013)
@bedders17
Wes Foderingham (2014)
@wes_foderingham
Mattia Lanzano (2013)
@LanzanoMattia

DEFENDERS (5)

Paul Caddis (2013)
No Twitter account
Alessandro Cibocchi (2013)
@alexcibo82
Joe Devera (2013)
No Twitter account
Aden Flint (2013)
@AFlint4
Nathan Thompson - Contract offered
@nathan_t23

DEFENDERS/MIDFIELDERS (2)

Alan McCormack (2013)
@almc16
Oliver Risser (2013)
@Oliverrisser80

MIDFIELDERS (6)

Lee Cox (2014)
No Twitter account
Etiënne Esajas (2013)
No Twitter account
Simon Ferry (2013)
@Siferrytapboi
Matt Ritchie (2013)
No Twitter account
Luke Rooney (2014)
@luke_rooney
Jonathan Smith (2013)
@jonathansmith40

MIDFIELDERS/FORWARDS (2)

Billy Bodin - Contract offered
No Twitter account
Raffa De Vita (2013)
@RaffaDeVita23

FORWARDS (5)

Paul Benson (2014)
No Twitter account
Alan Connell (2013)
@AlConnell83
Mehdi Kerrouche (2013)
No Twitter account
Lukáš Magera (2013)
No Twitter account
Miles Storey (2013)
@m_storey32


INS:

N/A

OUTS:

Lander Gabilondo (Released)
@lander_gabi
Callum Kennedy (Released)
@callum_k123
Abdul Said (Released)
No Twitter account
Mark Scott (Released)
@mark_scott18
Phil Smith (Released)
@smudgeegghead


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 18, 2012, 05:55:13
Gabby and Kennedy join Smith and Scott on the released list (BBC Wilts)


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: stfcinbmth on Friday, May 18, 2012, 05:57:30
Gabby and Kennedy join Smith and Scott on the released list (BBC Wilts)

Shame about Kennedy


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Friday, May 18, 2012, 06:22:34
Gabby and Kennedy join Smith and Scott on the released list (BBC Wilts)

I'm not sure whether I'm surprised about Callum Kennedy. Ridehalgh and McEveley both looked better.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: nevillew on Friday, May 18, 2012, 06:27:08
Let's face it. if Di Canio thought Kennedy was good enough we wouldn't have had Ridehalgh and McEveley here in the first place.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Friday, May 18, 2012, 06:28:02
You're right, but I simply refuse to face it :)


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Boeta on Friday, May 18, 2012, 07:18:59
Ooh a parting shot at the manager.

To be fair though, he has a point

who gives a fuck what phil smith says/thinks about di canio? he's a conference standard keeper at best who has managed to string out a few years at a half-decent league club despite a number of shaky performances

i'm sure he's a nice bloke but this loyal servant stuff is ridiculous - he's only been loyal because he's been hanging on to playing at a club like swindon by the skin of his teeth


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: tans on Friday, May 18, 2012, 07:24:51
Erm where have i said loyal servant etc.

All i said was he made a parting shot.

Get out the wrong side of bed this morning or are you on your period?


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Friday, May 18, 2012, 07:28:35
After six years of service I think it's not crazy to suggest that he was loyal.

He was also inconsistent and, yes, some Twitter comments (from grown men) can make you cringe.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Boeta on Friday, May 18, 2012, 08:15:14
Erm where have i said loyal servant etc.

All i said was he made a parting shot.

Get out the wrong side of bed this morning or are you on your period?

i was writing about your comment plus others about his 'loyalty'

just seems odd to be so affectionate about a second rate goal-keeper when people are quick to slag off players like austin and douglas, who were actually good for us


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Barry Scott on Friday, May 18, 2012, 08:22:40
i was writing about your comment plus others about his 'loyalty'

just seems odd to be so affectionate about a second rate goal-keeper when people are quick to slag off players like austin and douglas, who were actually good for us

It's what I find quite weird. He got so much shit for being a "shit keeper" yet now he's leaving there's a huge outpouring of grief. It's almost as pathetic as when Kate Cady got kicked out.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Shaw Rosso on Friday, May 18, 2012, 08:23:59
i was writing about your comment plus others about his 'loyalty'

just seems odd to be so affectionate about a second rate goal-keeper when people are quick to slag off players like austin and douglas, who were actually good for us

I dont think anyone slagged them off for their playing ability, more there ability to jump ship at the first opportunity.

If, for example, Smithy signed for Yeovil, would he get the same shit as Douglas when he returns to the CG, i dont think so, and this is why people are wishing him good luck for the future. It got a bit Diana-Esque on Twitter yesterday, but you can put alot of that down to kids getting home from school.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, May 18, 2012, 08:25:58
I said good luck to Phil and fuck-off to Douglas

So there


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Arriba on Friday, May 18, 2012, 08:34:40
Smith was very much like Nicky Hammond as has been discussed on here previously. Not surprised he is now surplus nor that he wasn't even spoken to by Di canio. He was and is an able deputy-lower league keeper but where we are hopefully heading is not his level. Nice that fans appreciate his loyalty but he'll soon be forgotten.
Think his departure could have been dealt with better but Di canio is who he is and wont change. We move on


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Barry Scott on Friday, May 18, 2012, 08:37:36
Smith was very much like Nicky Hammond as has been discussed on here previously. Not surprised he is now surplus nor that he wasn't even spoken to by Di canio. He was and is an able deputy-lower league keeper but where we are hopefully heading is not his level. Nice that fans appreciate his loyalty but he'll soon be forgotten.
Think his departure could have been dealt with better but Di canio is who he is and wont change. We move on

Well said.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, May 18, 2012, 08:40:05
Smith was very much like Nicky Hammond as has been discussed on here previously. Not surprised he is now surplus nor that he wasn't even spoken to by Di canio. He was and is an able deputy-lower league keeper but where we are hopefully heading is not his level. Nice that fans appreciate his loyalty but he'll soon be forgotten.
Think his departure could have been dealt with better but Di canio is who he is and wont change. We move on
Spot on.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 18, 2012, 09:00:55
Smith was very much like Nicky Hammond as has been discussed on here previously. Not surprised he is now surplus nor that he wasn't even spoken to by Di canio. He was and is an able deputy-lower league keeper but where we are hopefully heading is not his level. Nice that fans appreciate his loyalty but he'll soon be forgotten.
Think his departure could have been dealt with better but Di canio is who he is and wont change. We move on

Agreed, as long as David James doesn't take the #2 keeper spot ;)


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Processed Beats on Friday, May 18, 2012, 09:49:34
Official list now released.

http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10341~2774417,00.html


Title: Re: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: otanswell on Friday, May 18, 2012, 09:55:40
Very suprised Esajas has been retained, the fat cunt


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: FormerlyPlymRed on Friday, May 18, 2012, 09:56:44
Cant disagree with any of those that have been released really. Need to get rid of Esajas, Lanzano etc

Add another Keeper, Mceverly, Bostock (loan, impressed me when he played near the end), O'Kane and a stiker and we have a very decent squad for next year


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 18, 2012, 10:01:24
Very suprised Esajas has been retained, the fat cunt

All that mean is he's got another year left on his original contract. I'd imagine the club and player are keen to part company.


Title: Re: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, May 18, 2012, 10:01:46
Very suprised Esajas has been retained, the fat cunt

He's still under contract. There's no choice unless we can sell him.

Some of those on the retained list aren't 'players we want to keep', but 'players we can't shift'.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Swindon Please Win on Friday, May 18, 2012, 10:21:26
For me one of the main things I would like this summer is to extend the likes of Caddis', Ritchie's and Ferry's contract. That would be as good as three signings.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: LittleRed on Friday, May 18, 2012, 12:04:42
Esajas was definitely signed on a two year deal. Doubt he will find or be offered a better deal than what he is on now. Laranzo was also on a two year deal and nearly left once before by mutual consent only to change his mind at the last minute. I'm sure he has openly stated that if he can get a deal back home then he would leave. Just doubt,again that he find a better offer so just seeing out his contract. Both players are down to DiCanios inexperience at the start.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: jonny72 on Friday, May 18, 2012, 13:25:33
Smith was very much like Nicky Hammond as has been discussed on here previously. Not surprised he is now surplus nor that he wasn't even spoken to by Di canio. He was and is an able deputy-lower league keeper but where we are hopefully heading is not his level.

Still think he is one of the best shot stoppers we've seen in recent years and did pretty well against penalties as well.

Only thing that concerns me is that I'm not sure we'll get a more able replacement. Who ever comes in will be 2nd choice and will need a long term injury or long term loss of form for Foderingham before they'll get a game. Not sure a young keeper will help either, having someone experienced will be a big help to Foderingham with his development.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Kinky Tom on Friday, May 18, 2012, 13:28:12
which is why a david james type signing may be a good move - not james himself but an experienced keeper who knows his best days are behind him but is still able to deputise and offer valuable advice to a young promising keeper.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Friday, May 18, 2012, 13:29:25
It's going to be David James, isn't it?

 :hmmm:


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Coca Fola on Friday, May 18, 2012, 13:41:29
David James would be a fantastic signing as back up for Foderingham. Ex England, he would probably become GK coach too.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Friday, May 18, 2012, 13:42:12
David James would be a fantastic signing as back up for Foderingham. Ex England, he would probably become GK coach too.

I saw David James play at Swindon in 1991 :)


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Coca Fola on Friday, May 18, 2012, 13:43:47
Best moment of your life?


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: china red on Friday, May 18, 2012, 13:50:54
I saw David James play at Swindon in 1991 :)

Watford at home when we beat them 2-1?  Second goal through his legs if I remember rightly.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Bogus Dave on Friday, May 18, 2012, 13:53:45
I saw David James play at the County Ground in 2008


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Saxondale on Friday, May 18, 2012, 13:56:40
I saw David James play at Swindon in 1991 :)

I saw that too, it largely formed my opinion of David James which hasn't really changed since.  Calamity James.


Title: Re: Re: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 18, 2012, 13:57:15
It's going to be David James, isn't it?

 :hmmm:

Hmmm indeed. Past it. Not even sure I'd want him as a coach let alone #2.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Friday, May 18, 2012, 14:16:13
Best moment of your life?

It's up there.

For the others, the Watford game was a 2-1 loss and I think it was Glenn Hoddle's first game in charge.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Friday, May 18, 2012, 14:18:52
It was his first game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=t2KgwNZxv5w

Oh and... FUCK YOU MALONE  :smugfu:


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: ronnie21 on Friday, May 18, 2012, 15:01:32
It's going to be David James, isn't it?

 :hmmm:
He's going to have to take a large drop in wages - Shitty's top earner I believe.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: axs on Friday, May 18, 2012, 15:59:34
Jonathan Smith is @jonathansmith40


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Friday, May 18, 2012, 16:03:04
Jonathan Smith is @jonathansmith40

Well, it took at least half a day for someone to find an error ;)


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: axs on Friday, May 18, 2012, 16:07:02
Well, it took at least half a day for someone to find an error ;)

I'm sure someone will make a pun about it soon.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: corner on Monday, May 21, 2012, 05:41:37
Caddis signs one year contract extention.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: tans on Monday, May 21, 2012, 06:11:25
Really?


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Ralphy on Monday, May 21, 2012, 06:55:16
So he's now contracted until the summer of 2014 ?

He signed a 3 year contract in July 2010 if I remember right with Ferry too ??


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: jaylad on Monday, May 21, 2012, 07:36:30
Confirmed on BBC

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18138811


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, May 21, 2012, 08:03:12
Great news!


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 21, 2012, 08:08:27
Its not like he had a choice mind :)


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Swindon Please Win on Monday, May 21, 2012, 09:01:06
Caddis signs a one year extension. Brilliant news.

Edit : Maybe I should of read above...


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: FormerlyPlymRed on Monday, May 21, 2012, 09:07:55
Fantastic news about Caddis signing another contract, need to keep the core of the squad together


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Benzel on Monday, May 21, 2012, 09:15:54
Now to do the same with Fezza.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Gnasher on Monday, May 21, 2012, 09:53:27
Hopefully Ritchie will do the same.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: kerry red on Monday, May 21, 2012, 09:57:39
Still waiting for PdC to sign - although to be fair, it's looks nailed on


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Ralphy on Monday, May 21, 2012, 10:02:05
Caddis didn't sign though as such did he. The club triggered a 1 year extension.

At least it means we'll get more money for him if a club comes in.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Abrahammer on Monday, May 21, 2012, 11:02:05
Still waiting for PdC to sign - although to be fair, it's looks nailed on

I dont think anything with Paolo is nailed on/predictable

Not that i dont think he will sign mind you


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 21, 2012, 13:37:51
Caddis didn't sign though as such did he. The club triggered a 1 year extension.

At least it means we'll get more money for him if a club comes in.

Quite, though he did say it would "probably" have happened anyway. But as you say, at a minimum it puts his price up.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: corner on Thursday, May 24, 2012, 06:57:45
Etienne esajas gone.

Next....


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, May 24, 2012, 06:59:13
Source?


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, May 24, 2012, 07:15:20
Was on t'wireless


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, May 24, 2012, 07:16:58
Was on t'wireless

That's good enough for me...

THE SQUAD

GOALKEEPERS (3)

Leigh Bedwell (2013)
@bedders17
Wes Foderingham (2014)
@wes_foderingham
Mattia Lanzano (2013)
@LanzanoMattia

DEFENDERS (5)

Paul Caddis (2014)
No Twitter account
Alessandro Cibocchi (2013)
@alexcibo82
Joe Devera (2013)
No Twitter account
Aden Flint (2013)
@AFlint4
Nathan Thompson - Contract offered
@nathan_t23

DEFENDERS/MIDFIELDERS (2)

Alan McCormack (2013)
@almc16
Oliver Risser (2013)
@Oliverrisser80

MIDFIELDERS (5)

Lee Cox (2014)
No Twitter account
Simon Ferry (2013)
@Siferrytapboi
Matt Ritchie (2013)
No Twitter account
Luke Rooney (2014)
@luke_rooney
Jonathan Smith (2013)
@jonathansmith40

MIDFIELDERS/FORWARDS (2)

Billy Bodin - Contract offered
No Twitter account
Raffa De Vita (2013)
@RaffaDeVita23

FORWARDS (5)

Paul Benson (2014)
No Twitter account
Alan Connell (2013)
@AlConnell83
Mehdi Kerrouche (2013)
No Twitter account
Lukáš Magera (2013)
No Twitter account
Miles Storey (2013)
@m_storey32

NEW CONTRACTS:

Paul Caddis - 1 year extension

INS:

N/A

OUTS:

Etiënne Esajas (Released)
No Twitter account
Lander Gabilondo (Released)
@lander_gabi
Callum Kennedy (Released)
@callum_k123
Abdul Said (Released)
No Twitter account
Mark Scott (Released)
@mark_scott18
Phil Smith (Released)
@smudgeegghead

TRIALISTS/TRAINING

Luke McCormick (Who knows?)


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: chrisser on Thursday, May 24, 2012, 07:26:10
I think Paul Mooney (the runner up in the Samsung competition) was also invited back for a trial in pre season


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Barry Scott on Thursday, May 24, 2012, 08:20:21
Etienne esajas gone.

Next....

Excellent news.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 24, 2012, 08:22:58
Excellent news.
A good wage freed up, excellent indeed.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Trashbat? on Thursday, May 24, 2012, 08:24:42
Would be interested to know what happened to Lee Cox, anyone know?


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: FormerlyPlymRed on Thursday, May 24, 2012, 08:24:57
Who else to leave now then?

Kerrouche and Lanzano probably, any others?


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, May 24, 2012, 08:28:14
I'm still not sure about Lukas Magera's return. Not because of ability just down to whether he wants too.

Kerrouche and Lanzano aside, I think pretty much everyone else will report for training.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Barry Scott on Thursday, May 24, 2012, 08:33:55
Would be interested to know what happened to Lee Cox, anyone know?

Nothing, he's been injured.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 24, 2012, 08:36:29
I'm still not sure about Lukas Magera's return. Not because of ability just down to whether he wants too.

Kerrouche and Lanzano aside, I think pretty much everyone else will report for training.

Its wierd, last season everyone said we had a massive squad but looking at the players still at the club, if you take Magera/Lanzano/Kerrouche out of the equation it looks a fairly small squad with a few berths being taken up by young inexperienced players Bedwell, Thompson and Storey, leaving just 1 keeper, 6 defenders, 5 midfielders, 2 strikers who would be considered first teamers.

I personally think Bodin will move on and refuse the contract and Thompson will accept his new contract and probably go out on loan next season to get game time.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Thursday, May 24, 2012, 08:45:52
Who else to leave now then?

Kerrouche and Lanzano probably, any others?

Ritchie & Caddis to Rotherham for 900k


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Trashbat? on Thursday, May 24, 2012, 08:48:36
Ritchie & Caddis to Rotherham for 900k

Dont be silly....we would never get that much money for those two


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: FormerlyPlymRed on Thursday, May 24, 2012, 08:53:38
Dont be silly....we would never get that much money for those two
Nah Caddis has handed in a transfer request to be with his best mate at Rotherham so be lucky to get anything really


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Processed Beats on Thursday, May 24, 2012, 09:27:09
Billy Bodin now has Twitter if everyone fancies a follow: @BillyBodin9


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: corner on Sunday, May 27, 2012, 18:01:04
anyone know when Paolos back? hope we get some good news on transfers this coming week, certainly don't want another week like the last one!!!!


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, May 27, 2012, 18:48:22
Usually gets going within the next week or two.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Batch on Sunday, May 27, 2012, 19:43:54
Come on Costanza, what usually happens is we don't sign anyone then claim that its because the Euros are on ;)


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, May 27, 2012, 19:49:31
Come on Costanza, what usually happens is we don't sign anyone then claim that its because the Euros are on ;)

How can I forget that ol' chestnut?

Incidentally, we are probably due a 'I want my squad fully assembled before pre-training starts' article.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Sunday, May 27, 2012, 19:55:21
Wray said that we would have to be patient for signings. I think they will come in a cluster just before the preseason tour.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Sunday, May 27, 2012, 20:15:27
anyone know when Paolos back? hope we get some good news on transfers this coming week, certainly don't want another week like the last one!!!!
Well I get all my news these days from the Adver comments section and my understanding is that Paolo is no longer at the Club  :hmmm:


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Saxondale on Sunday, May 27, 2012, 20:16:37
Hes joined wigan I understand.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: mrverve on Monday, May 28, 2012, 09:33:42
Come on Costanza, what usually happens is we don't sign anyone then claim that its because the Euros are on ;)

I remember a few years ago when things were a little slow on the transfer front, the general consensus was that the Ronaldo transfer to Real Madrid was the reason why nobody (including ourselves) were not signing anyone.

We can always blame Van Persie this year.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Abrahammer on Monday, May 28, 2012, 09:36:09
Lets please not have another constant panic over lack of signings like we did early pre-season last year.

Anyone know where that panic button is?


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Monday, May 28, 2012, 09:41:39
Lets please not have another constant panic over lack of signings like we did early pre-season last year.

Anyone know where that panic button is?

This!

The domestic season only finished yesterday. If we're signing free transfers then there is no need to get them on board until 1 July (financially anyway) as the club don't have to pay their wages until then.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Arriba on Monday, May 28, 2012, 09:42:12
Things aint gonna get going for weeks i'd expect. Players and managers will be on their hols


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: leefer on Monday, May 28, 2012, 09:44:14
Praise the lord for that....time to have a break from the exploits of Swindon FC for a while i reckon.

Talking for myself of course.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: kerry red on Monday, May 28, 2012, 09:45:50
I think the club know who their targets are, have been sounded out, and it's just waiting for holidays to end and players to come back and sign up.

Unless, of course, there is no money forthcoming and PdC will be off  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, May 28, 2012, 11:56:55
So what's the consensus regarding what we need? I know there are some obvious positions that need filling but looking roughly at our current squad, we are top heavy in places. I'm unemployed at the moment so have time to type this sort of drivel (I have been offered a new job though *Phew.Hooray.Phew* but it doesn't start for another two weeks)

With new signings still potentially weeks away, let us (hopefully) discuss what is really needed at Swindon for the 2012/13 season.

Out of position players in italics.

Goalkeeper
1. Wes Foderingham
2. Leigh Bedwell
3. Mattia Lanzano

Dennis Wise, Paul Sturrock, Maurice Malpas and Danny Wilson all preferred to have duelling goalkeepers fighting for a number one spot and long term it probably had more of a detrimental effect at Swindon.

Plenty of clubs have a mainstay number 1 goalkeeper with back-up, why not Swindon? With that in mind, I'd have a 'Steve Book' type keeper brought in with Mattia Lanzano axed and Leigh Bedwell as third goalkeeper.

Right-Back
1. Paul Caddis
2. Nathan Thompson
3. Joe Devera

On the basis that Nathan Thompson accepts his contract offer then I don't think there's much need to bolster this. Perhaps the loan market can assist when need be.

Left-Back
1. Alessandro Cibocchi

If McEveley comes in and then you'll probably need to bring another in if Cibocchi's injury is as bad as what DV has alluded to in the past. I wonder what Ridehalgh's availability is now that Huddersfield Town have been promoted?

Centre-Back
1. Alan McCormack
2. Joe Devera
3. Aden Flint
4. Oliver Risser
5. Alessandro Cibocchi

McCormack is worth debating. In League Two, McCormack was a fantastic make-shift central defender but in League One? There's every chance that he will be just as good but what if he's not? Then you've got Joe Devera with Aden Flint. Both good players but is it strong enough against better opposition? I'd be hoping that Di Canio is looking at an experienced lower league centre-back to really make that position competitive.

Right-Midfield
1. Matt Ritchie
2. Paul Caddis

Ritchie's no.1. If Caddis has to fill in then you've got Nathan Thompson to cover. I imagine Di Canio might look at the loan market to cover Ritchie.

Left-Midfield
1. Luke Rooney
2. Raffa De Vita
3. Matt Ritchie
4. Billy Bodin

Rooney has flitted in and out of the side, as has Raffa De Vita. I'd be interested to read what others think about this position...

Centre-Midfield
1. Simon Ferry
2. Jonathan Smith
3. Oliver Risser
3. Lee Cox
4. Alan McCormack
5. Matt Ritchie

I think (and this is only my opinion which is based on nothing at all) that Jonathan Smith is at risk this summer of being sold on. Recent news may suggest that Lee Cox's Town career may go the way of Elliot Benyon but Smith was in and out of the squad on a semi-regular basis. RE: Smith, it's not based on what I think of him as a footballer but I just have that feeling that Di Canio isn't so sure.

Also, Risser is a favourite of Di Canio's while I think McCormack might go back in to a midfield role. Ferry has earned high praise after last summer.

Centre-Forward
1. Paul Benson
2. Alan Connell
3. Billy Bodin
4. Raffa De Vita
5. Lukáš Magera
6. Miles Storey
7. Mehdi Kerrouche

There's a lot of names but we certainly need a new player in there. I'd hope Kerrouche will be effectively replaced by the Andy Williams signing (if it happens) while Magera could be replaced for another forward who can be relied upon.

For consistency alone, I wouldn't get rid of Connell.

Thought/Thoughts?


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Coca Fola on Monday, May 28, 2012, 12:08:13
I think all we need is a GK, CB, LB, a winger and a couple of strikers.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, May 28, 2012, 12:13:17
I think all we need is a GK, CB, LB, a winger and a couple of strikers.

What do you think about McCormack as either a defender or reverting to what is possibly he preferred position?


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Monday, May 28, 2012, 12:20:19
A central midfielder is a must. Risser isn't good enough and I can't see Smith being a regular in a side that has top 6 ambitions.

I would keep McCormack in defence - our record at the back was superb last season and he was our best defender for me. Sign Mcevely and the backline looks solid.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Kinky Tom on Monday, May 28, 2012, 12:33:23
keep alan back there in defence, it's important to have a ball player back there and there aren't so many lumps in L1 so his height should be even less of an issue.

get mceveley in, an able athletic CM and of course a couple of strikers in, preferably with some pace


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Coca Fola on Monday, May 28, 2012, 12:55:44
What do you think about McCormack as either a defender or reverting to what is possibly he preferred position?
If it ain't broke don't fix it.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Sippo on Monday, May 28, 2012, 13:01:45
I think all we need is a GK

Don't we have one on trial and looking at 'signing'. I've read it somewhere...


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, May 28, 2012, 13:05:20
Don't we have one on trial and looking at 'signing'. I've read it somewhere...

N'ah, it's in your head.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Langers on Monday, May 28, 2012, 14:25:04
Left-Midfield
1. Luke Rooney
2. Raffa De Vita
3. Matt Ritchie
4. Billy Bodin

Rooney has flitted in and out of the side, as has Raffa De Vita. I'd be interested to read what others think about this position...

It wouldn't surprise me if we went for Holmes, who I believe is out of contract? I know he sometimes split opinions but with a full PDC pre-season behind him, I think he could be a very good league one player.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, May 28, 2012, 14:40:13
I'm inclined to agree.

Raffa De Vita's stock still doesn't look great as he's failed to make an impact as a forward. He job a decent job filling in on the left wing but with Rooney and possible Holmes, what does this mean for De Vita?


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, May 28, 2012, 14:57:06
So what's the consensus regarding what we need? I know there are some obvious positions that need filling but looking roughly at our current squad, we are top heavy in places. I'm unemployed at the moment so have time to type this sort of drivel (I have been offered a new job though *Phew.Hooray.Phew* but it doesn't start for another two weeks)

With new signings still potentially weeks away, let us (hopefully) discuss what is really needed at Swindon for the 2012/13 season.

Out of position players in italics.

Goalkeeper
1. Wes Foderingham
2. Leigh Bedwell
3. Mattia Lanzano

Dennis Wise, Paul Sturrock, Maurice Malpas and Danny Wilson all preferred to have duelling goalkeepers fighting for a number one spot and long term it probably had more of a detrimental effect at Swindon.

Plenty of clubs have a mainstay number 1 goalkeeper with back-up, why not Swindon? With that in mind, I'd have a 'Steve Book' type keeper brought in with Mattia Lanzano axed and Leigh Bedwell as third goalkeeper.

Right-Back
1. Paul Caddis
2. Nathan Thompson
3. Joe Devera

On the basis that Nathan Thompson accepts his contract offer then I don't think there's much need to bolster this. Perhaps the loan market can assist when need be.

Left-Back
1. Alessandro Cibocchi

If McEveley comes in and then you'll probably need to bring another in if Cibocchi's injury is as bad as what DV has alluded to in the past. I wonder what Ridehalgh's availability is now that Huddersfield Town have been promoted?

Centre-Back
1. Alan McCormack
2. Joe Devera
3. Aden Flint
4. Oliver Risser
5. Alessandro Cibocchi

McCormack is worth debating. In League Two, McCormack was a fantastic make-shift central defender but in League One? There's every chance that he will be just as good but what if he's not? Then you've got Joe Devera with Aden Flint. Both good players but is it strong enough against better opposition? I'd be hoping that Di Canio is looking at an experienced lower league centre-back to really make that position competitive.

Right-Midfield
1. Matt Ritchie
2. Paul Caddis

Ritchie's no.1. If Caddis has to fill in then you've got Nathan Thompson to cover. I imagine Di Canio might look at the loan market to cover Ritchie.

Left-Midfield
1. Luke Rooney
2. Raffa De Vita
3. Matt Ritchie
4. Billy Bodin

Rooney has flitted in and out of the side, as has Raffa De Vita. I'd be interested to read what others think about this position...

Centre-Midfield
1. Simon Ferry
2. Jonathan Smith
3. Oliver Risser
3. Lee Cox
4. Alan McCormack
5. Matt Ritchie

I think (and this is only my opinion which is based on nothing at all) that Jonathan Smith is at risk this summer of being sold on. Recent news may suggest that Lee Cox's Town career may go the way of Elliot Benyon but Smith was in and out of the squad on a semi-regular basis. RE: Smith, it's not based on what I think of him as a footballer but I just have that feeling that Di Canio isn't so sure.

Also, Risser is a favourite of Di Canio's while I think McCormack might go back in to a midfield role. Ferry has earned high praise after last summer.

Centre-Forward
1. Paul Benson
2. Alan Connell
3. Billy Bodin
4. Raffa De Vita
5. Lukáš Magera
6. Miles Storey
7. Mehdi Kerrouche

There's a lot of names but we certainly need a new player in there. I'd hope Kerrouche will be effectively replaced by the Andy Williams signing (if it happens) while Magera could be replaced for another forward who can be relied upon.

For consistency alone, I wouldn't get rid of Connell.

Thought/Thoughts?

I like the way you've put those little accent things on Magera's name....a touch of class that unemployment brings, it will be a shame when you return to the ranks of the wage slave, the TEF is all the better for a few with too much time on their hands.

As for the squad...who knows, this is STFC.  It's quite conceivable we'll be looking for a new chairman and manager before we get any players...


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, May 28, 2012, 15:06:27
Ha! You're not wrong Reg.

So we're agreed then? We're going to sign 2 goalkeepers, 2 right backs and a slow forward to hold the ball up.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Saxondale on Monday, May 28, 2012, 15:12:13
And 7 left backs.  None of them good.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Monday, May 28, 2012, 15:18:38
I like the way you've put those little accent things on Magera's name....a touch of class that unemployment brings, it will be a shame when you return to the ranks of the wage slave, the TEF is all the better for a few with too much time on their hands.

As for the squad...who knows, this is STFC.  It's quite conceivable we'll be looking for a new chairman and manager before we get any players...

I wouldnt mind having a go at being chairman!


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Processed Beats on Monday, May 28, 2012, 16:17:37
Lee Holmes poised to sign for Preston apparently.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, May 28, 2012, 16:22:06
Lee Holmes poised to sign for Preston apparently.

C'mon, you can't post that without a source..

Edit: It's from a Sky Sports related Tweet.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Langers on Monday, May 28, 2012, 16:25:46
C'mon, you can't post that without a source...

Sky Sports understands Preston are poised to sign Lee Holmes from Southampton #PNE #Saintsfc

Official Sky Sports Twitter.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, May 28, 2012, 16:27:26
Sky Sports understands Preston are poised to sign Lee Holmes from Southampton #PNE #Saintsfc

Official Sky Sports Twitter.

Yeah I just clocked it.

People had divided opinions on Holmes but he would be a decent signing for any L1 team.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Monday, May 28, 2012, 16:41:08
Shame to miss out on him but we have plenty of time to find alternative options.

Not been impressed with Prestons summer businnes so far but Holmes would be a decent signing for them.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Coca Fola on Monday, May 28, 2012, 16:55:58
No biggie. We can do better.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Miles Mayhem on Monday, May 28, 2012, 16:57:45
No biggie. We can do better.

that might be the case but i bet he sets up at least one goal against us next season. I liked Holmes but he drifted in and mostly out of games far to much


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: slinky on Monday, May 28, 2012, 17:14:47
Not fussed really.  Seemed a nice chap but like others have said am sure we can do better.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 06:34:47
Oliver Risser is promoting his Swindon Town showreel (or some pretty standard fan appreciation). How many contracted players do this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oogGtTsToiI

This pointless piece of rumour mongering was brought to you by me, for all of your me needs - choose me.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: LucienSanchez on Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 06:56:31
I liked the one where he mis-controlled it in to sometimes path, yet included out as a stand alone highlight...


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 08:37:52
Not fussed really.  Seemed a nice chap but like others have said am sure we can do better.

Geography is an important consideration...probably more so than a lot of fans appreciate.  So that would have worked in Preston's favour as well.  Got to wonder whether the media shitstorm at STFC last week may have hindered our chances of getting his signature as well.

Oh well.  Golden opportunity for Luke Rooney.  He's still very young and I know we haven't seen the best of him yet.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 08:50:23
I liked the one where he mis-controlled it in to sometimes path, yet included out as a stand alone highlight...

He doesn't want to come off all arrogant does he.

I'd have put the own goal at Wembley in myself. Clinical.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Coca Fola on Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 11:30:48
Oliver Risser is promoting his Swindon Town showreel (or some pretty standard fan appreciation). How many contracted players do this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oogGtTsToiI

This pointless piece of rumour mongering was brought to you by me, for all of your me needs - choose me.
All foreign players do it, they don't expect to be at their clubs long so I'd imagine Risser feels the same.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Coca Fola on Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 11:31:27
He doesn't want to come off all arrogant does he.

I'd have put the own goal at Wembley in myself. Clinical.
I would have included it but for a different reason. Just to show that you've played at Wembley. The own goal is immaterial.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: tans on Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 11:47:31
I would have included it but for a different reason. Just to show that you've played at Wembley. The own goal is immaterial.

Im going all out to score an own goal at wembley tomorrow, just to piss alan shearer off


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Coca Fola on Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 18:20:55
You're playing at Wembley?


Title: Re: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: otanswell on Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 18:21:51
Yeah he is, lucky cunt


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Coca Fola on Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 18:24:56
If he scores he either has to,

A. Windmill Alan Shearer
B. Do the Robbie Fowler line of coke celebration


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 30, 2012, 08:43:33
Not been impressed with Prestons summer businnes so far but Holmes would be a decent signing for them.

Was just having a look at Prestons team, they currently have 30 pro's and since the end of the season have brought in no less than 12 players!

GK: Richard Wright
DF: Paul Huntington
DF: Shane Cansdell-Sherriff
DF: David Buchanan
DF: Scott Laird
MF: John Mousinho
MF: Lee Holmes
MF: Jeffrey Monakana
MF: Nicky Wroe
MF: John Welsh
MF: William Hayhurst
FW: David Amoo

Thats a lot of new players to gel together early on in the season. They have also transfer listed 7 players as well as releasing 17 players (including Neil Mellor who retired).


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: london_red on Wednesday, May 30, 2012, 09:03:58
Was just having a look at Prestons team, they currently have 30 pro's and since the end of the season have brought in no less than 12 players!

GK: Richard Wright
DF: Paul Huntington
DF: Shane Cansdell-Sherriff
DF: David Buchanan
DF: Scott Laird
MF: John Mousinho
MF: Lee Holmes
MF: Jeffrey Monakana
MF: Nicky Wroe
MF: John Welsh
MF: William Hayhurst
FW: David Amoo

Thats a lot of new players to gel together early on in the season. They have also transfer listed 7 players as well as releasing 17 players (including Neil Mellor who retired).

Not dissimilar to us last summer really.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Ardiles on Wednesday, May 30, 2012, 09:14:47
...except they have started a lot earlier.  A large part of our early season problems last year was down to a batch of unknown players being signed around the time of the tour to Norcia, just weeks before the season kicked off.  When it did, the squad had not yet settled in to any sort of pattern; it took until the autumn for that to happen.  As I recall, last August expectations were that Esajas and Risser were going to be our key men.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: nevillew on Wednesday, May 30, 2012, 09:16:02
...except they have started a lot earlier.  A large part of our early season problems last year was down to a batch of unknown players being signed around the time of the tour to Norcia, just weeks before the season kicked off.  When it did, the squad had not yet settled in to any sort of pattern; it took until the autumn for that to happen.  As I recall, last August expectations were that Esajas and Risser were going to be our key men.
Turned out to be off-key men.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Processed Beats on Wednesday, May 30, 2012, 09:41:43
Was just having a look at Prestons team, they currently have 30 pro's and since the end of the season have brought in no less than 12 players!

GK: Richard Wright
DF: Paul Huntington
DF: Shane Cansdell-Sherriff
DF: David Buchanan
DF: Scott Laird
MF: John Mousinho
MF: Lee Holmes
MF: Jeffrey Monakana
MF: Nicky Wroe
MF: John Welsh
MF: William Hayhurst
FW: David Amoo

Thats a lot of new players to gel together early on in the season. They have also transfer listed 7 players as well as releasing 17 players (including Neil Mellor who retired).

The thing that strikes me about that list is that the majority of them are all average League One players. That's not to say they won't be successful, but most have them have signed 2 or 3 year deals and if Preston are targeting promotion, are any of them going to be good enough for the Championship?

Think this approach is more Bristol Rovers last Summer than our own, and won't be surprised to see it end in similar circumstances.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, May 30, 2012, 10:17:32
TBF though, none of the players that we brought in last summer were players that stood out to be able to cut it in the league above.  The players that could obviously play at a higher level were already with us (Caddis, Ferry, Ritchie, Flint) maybe McCormack is the exception but he started shakey.  We got up because of the mentality of the manager.

Add Foderingham to that list and you have a short list of players that could potentially cut it in the Championship.  If we have genuine ambition of challenging next year then that shows that we have a lot of work to do this season too.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, June 19, 2012, 19:26:53
Updated.

THE SQUAD

GOALKEEPERS (3)

Leigh Bedwell (2013)
@bedders17
Wes Foderingham (2014)
@wes_foderingham
Mattia Lanzano (2013)
@LanzanoMattia

DEFENDERS (5)

Paul Caddis (2014)
No Twitter account
Alessandro Cibocchi (2013)
@alexcibo82
Joe Devera (2013)
No Twitter account
Aden Flint (2013)
@AFlint4
Nathan Thompson - Contract offered
@nathan_t23

DEFENDERS/MIDFIELDERS (2)

Alan McCormack (2013)
@almc16
Oliver Risser (2013)
No Twitter account

MIDFIELDERS (6)

Lee Cox (2014)
No Twitter account
Simon Ferry (2013)
@Siferrytapboi
Matt Ritchie (2013)
No Twitter account
Gary Roberts (2014)
No Twitter account
Luke Rooney (2014)
@luke_rooney
Jonathan Smith (2013)
@jonathansmith40

MIDFIELDERS/FORWARDS (3)

Billy Bodin - Contract offered
@BillyBodin9
Raffa De Vita (2013)
@RaffaDeVita23
Andy Williams (2014)
No Twitter account

FORWARDS (6)

Paul Benson (2014)
No Twitter account
James Collins (2014)
@JamesCollins9
Alan Connell (2013)
@AlConnell83
Mehdi Kerrouche (2013)
No Twitter account
Lukáš Magera (2013)
No Twitter account
Miles Storey (2013)
@m_storey32

NEW CONTRACTS:

Paul Caddis (1 year extension)
Paolo Di Canio (2 year extension)


INS:

James Collins (Shrewsbury Town, compensation due)
@JamesCollins9
Gary Roberts (Huddersfield Town, free)
No Twitter account
Andy Williams (Yeovil Town, free)
No Twitter account

OUTS:

Etiënne Esajas (Released)
No Twitter account
Lander Gabilondo (Released)
@lander_gabi
Callum Kennedy (Released)
@callum_k123
Abdul Said (Released)
No Twitter account
Mark Scott (Released)
@mark_scott18
Phil Smith (Released)
@smudgeegghead


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Freddies Ferret on Tuesday, June 19, 2012, 19:39:40
Sexy use of colours costanza


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: tans on Tuesday, June 19, 2012, 19:40:11
The risser account is a fake


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, June 19, 2012, 19:42:53
Sexy use of colours costanza

A relic of my unemployment days :)


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: gingernuggets on Wednesday, June 20, 2012, 08:59:22
Have you missed Chris Smith off that list, the Samsung guy?


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Ginginho on Thursday, June 21, 2012, 11:00:46
So a potential first XI for our first game could be:

Foderingham

Caddis
Flint
McCormack
McEveley

Roberts
Navarro
Ferry
Ritchie

Benson
Collins

That looks pretty fucking decent to me.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Bogus Dave on Thursday, June 21, 2012, 11:34:06
I don't think Paul Benson will be much cop in League one next season.

There, I said it.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, June 21, 2012, 11:35:10
I don't think Paul Benson will be much cop in League one next season.

There, I said it.

Maybe more of an impact sub next season, a bit like a better Connell I guess.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, June 21, 2012, 11:37:11
I don't think Paul Benson will be much cop in League one next season.

There, I said it.

10 in 33 for Charlton is not a record to be sniffed at, although he's not getting any younger.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, June 21, 2012, 11:37:30
I think Benson will do well with a full pre season training having been with PdC for several months now. He will get fit and still be a big asset, I feel that Williams will be more of a squad player/impact sub when we need some pace up front.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: jonny72 on Thursday, June 21, 2012, 11:41:53
I don't think Paul Benson will be much cop in League one next season.

There, I said it.

Given his age he was never a long term signing. Reckon he'll be given a chance to deliver and if he doesn't he'll be replaced in the starting eleven.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: The Artist Billy Paynter on Thursday, June 21, 2012, 11:44:19
Reckon Benson will be used as a super sub!   :wink:


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: corner on Thursday, June 21, 2012, 11:50:27
Benson will partner collins upfront in the first game of the season.  ;)


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, June 21, 2012, 11:50:38
Some players just seem to be able to keep on going (think Shearer), whereas others seem to suffer more.

Guess we'll just have to wait and find out.



Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Thursday, June 21, 2012, 11:52:29
Benson is ace and will tear League One a new err, one.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Notts red on Thursday, June 21, 2012, 11:52:48
I'm thinking Paolo won't have strikers starting who aren't scoring so Benson like the others will get plenty of chances. When Striker partnerships are working and getting goals it makes it very hard for any manager to drop them, which in turn keeps everyone hungry for starts and success.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Abrahammer on Thursday, June 21, 2012, 12:03:10
Benson has a good footballing brain which bode him for whenever the legs do go.  However he is only 32 which means he easily has at least 2-3 years left of being decent at this level.  He also strikes me as the ultimate pro who will thrive under a pre-season of PDC's fitness routine knowing that fitness is a key to prolonging his career at this level.

I expect him to get around 20 this season and be our top scorer.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, June 21, 2012, 12:44:32
Leyton Orient fans seem to think he is being offered to clubs at £85k as he doesnt want to move away from Essex where is kids go to school.

Probably bollocks.

http://s16124652.onlinehome-server.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2022&sid=789caa27601f54b5589a171648d364d9


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Paolo69 on Thursday, June 21, 2012, 12:54:28
Would be amazed if this was true. He's been one of the first names on the team sheet since he signed in Jan.

Not sure what age his kids are and how many he has but i know he's (well his Mrs presumably) has had one recently.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Ardiles on Thursday, June 21, 2012, 13:00:41
'85 large'!

Don't you just love Cockernees.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, June 21, 2012, 14:50:20
Leyton Orient fans seem to think he is being offered to clubs at £85k as he doesnt want to move away from Essex where is kids go to school.

Probably bollocks.

http://s16124652.onlinehome-server.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2022&sid=789caa27601f54b5589a171648d364d9

Given the fact that his first child isn't old enough for school yet and his second is only months old, it's absolute bollocks.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, June 21, 2012, 15:12:38
Midfield and up front looks to be sorted, lots of experience and depth there.

Still think we need someone alongside McCormack, unsure that Flint will make the step up.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Riddick on Thursday, June 21, 2012, 15:18:36
I agree, i expect another experienced defender coming in. I think Devera will play ahead of flint, got more pace, better distribution etc.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Gnasher on Thursday, June 21, 2012, 15:28:07
Midfield and up front looks to be sorted, lots of experience and depth there.

Still think we need someone alongside McCormack, unsure that Flint will make the step up.

I'd disagree. I think Flint will play a huge part this season, with Devera stepping in when needed. We do need another quality CB though as we were forced to play Risser at the back in several games last season.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Paolo69 on Thursday, June 21, 2012, 15:32:02
I agree, i expect another experienced defender coming in. I think Devera will play ahead of flint, got more pace, better distribution etc.

Flinty relegated to fourth choice then? I'd hope not.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: london_red on Thursday, June 21, 2012, 15:41:53
I'd disagree. I think Flint will play a huge part this season, with Devera stepping in when needed. We do need another quality CB though as we were forced to play Risser at the back in several games last season.

It's an interesting question. Assume most people would agree Alan Mac and A.N.Other, but which out of Flint and Devera?

Strange to say as Flint was incredible in the opening few games, but the way Devera got better as the season went on I think I'd have him ahead of Flint at the moment.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, June 21, 2012, 15:43:05
Devera is a better all round player than Flint at the moment.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, June 21, 2012, 15:56:47
Midfield and up front looks to be sorted, lots of experience and depth there.

Still think we need someone alongside McCormack, unsure that Flint will make the step up.
I agree, I think an experienced CB will be next signing along with a backup/squad keeper probably with a bit more experience that Wes so keep him on his toes, that will make it the 8 signings Paolo was after.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, June 21, 2012, 16:32:51
THE SQUAD

GOALKEEPERS (3)

Leigh Bedwell (2013)
@bedders17
Wes Foderingham (2014)
@wes_foderingham
Mattia Lanzano (2013)
@LanzanoMattia

DEFENDERS (5)

Paul Caddis (2014)
No Twitter account
Alessandro Cibocchi (2013)
@alexcibo82
Joe Devera (2013)
No Twitter account
Aden Flint (2013)
@AFlint4
Jay McEveley (2014)
@jaymcev03
Chris Smith (Samsung)
@csmudgersmith90
Nathan Thompson - Contract offered
@nathan_t23

DEFENDERS/MIDFIELDERS (2)

Alan McCormack (2013)
@almc16
Oliver Risser (2013)
No Twitter account

MIDFIELDERS (6)

Lee Cox (2014)
No Twitter account
Simon Ferry (2013)
@ihatedanmarino
Tommy Miller (2013)
No Twitter account
Alan Navarro (2014)
@alannavarro31
Matt Ritchie (2013)
No Twitter account
Gary Roberts (2014)
No Twitter account
Luke Rooney (2014)
@luke_rooney
Jonathan Smith (2013)
@jonathansmith40

MIDFIELDERS/FORWARDS (3)

Billy Bodin - Contract offered
@BillyBodin9
Raffa De Vita (2013)
@RaffaDeVita23
Andy Williams (2014)
No Twitter account

FORWARDS (6)

Paul Benson (2014)
No Twitter account
James Collins (2014)
@JamesCollins9
Alan Connell (2013)
@AlConnell83
Mehdi Kerrouche (2013)
No Twitter account
Lukáš Magera (2013)
No Twitter account
Miles Storey (2013)
@m_storey32

NEW CONTRACTS:

Paul Caddis (1 year extension)
Paolo Di Canio (2 year extension)


INS:

James Collins (Shrewsbury Town, compensation due)
@JamesCollins9
Jay McEveley (Barnsley, free)
@jaymcev03
Tommy Miller (Huddersfield Town, free)
No Twitter account
Alan Navarro (Brighton & Hove Albion, free)
@alannavarro31
Gary Roberts (Huddersfield Town, free)
No Twitter account
Andy Williams (Yeovil Town, free)
No Twitter account

OUTS:

Etiënne Esajas (Released)
No Twitter account
Lander Gabilondo (Released)
@lander_gabi
Callum Kennedy (Scunthope United, free)
@callum_k123
Abdul Said (Released)
No Twitter account
Mark Scott (Released)
@mark_scott18
Phil Smith (Released)
@smudgeegghead


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: wiggy on Thursday, June 21, 2012, 16:44:10
If this was a game of football manager you would be pretty pleased with that as a solid piece of squad strengthening.

The strange thing is that I am not even surprised this time round, as it was clear under Wray/Di Canio in the January window that we weren't going to dither any more.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, June 21, 2012, 17:16:37
THE SQUAD

GOALKEEPERS (3)

Leigh Bedwell (2013)
@bedders17
Wes Foderingham (2014)
@wes_foderingham
Mattia Lanzano (2013)
@LanzanoMattia

DEFENDERS (5)

Paul Caddis (2014)
No Twitter account
Alessandro Cibocchi (2013)
@alexcibo82
Joe Devera (2013)
No Twitter account
Aden Flint (2013)
@AFlint4
Jay McEveley (2014)
@jaymcev03
Chris Smith (Samsung)
On its way
Nathan Thompson - Contract offered
@nathan_t23

DEFENDERS/MIDFIELDERS (2)

Alan McCormack (2013)
@almc16
Oliver Risser (2013)
No Twitter account

MIDFIELDERS (6)

Lee Cox (2014)
No Twitter account
Simon Ferry (2013)
@Siferrytapboi
Tommy Miller (2013)
No Twitter account
Alan Navarro (2014)
@alannavarro31
Matt Ritchie (2013)
No Twitter account
Gary Roberts (2014)
No Twitter account
Luke Rooney (2014)
@luke_rooney
Jonathan Smith (2013)
@jonathansmith40

MIDFIELDERS/FORWARDS (3)

Billy Bodin - Contract offered
@BillyBodin9
Raffa De Vita (2013)
@RaffaDeVita23
Andy Williams (2014)
No Twitter account

FORWARDS (6)

Paul Benson (2014)
No Twitter account
James Collins (2014)
@JamesCollins9
Alan Connell (2013)
@AlConnell83
Mehdi Kerrouche (2013)
No Twitter account
Lukáš Magera (2013)
No Twitter account
Miles Storey (2013)
@m_storey32

NEW CONTRACTS:

Paul Caddis (1 year extension)
Paolo Di Canio (2 year extension)


INS:

James Collins (Shrewsbury Town, compensation due)
@JamesCollins9
Jay McEveley (Barnsley, free)
@jaymcev03
Tommy Miller (Huddersfield Town, free)
No Twitter account
Alan Navarro (Brighton & Hove Albion, free)
@alannavarro31
Gary Roberts (Huddersfield Town, free)
No Twitter account
Andy Williams (Yeovil Town, free)
No Twitter account

OUTS:

Etiënne Esajas (Released)
No Twitter account
Lander Gabilondo (Released)
@lander_gabi
Callum Kennedy (Scunthope United, free)
@callum_k123
Abdul Said (Released)
No Twitter account
Mark Scott (Released)
@mark_scott18
Phil Smith (Released)
@smudgeegghead

#ff


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, June 21, 2012, 17:24:56
Ferry has a new twitter account: ray finkle ‏ @ihatedanmarino


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Thursday, June 21, 2012, 17:38:31
Ferry has a new twitter account: ray finkle ‏ @ihatedanmarino

that is class


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: carbonwhite on Thursday, June 21, 2012, 17:41:46
Given the fact that his first child isn't old enough for school yet and his second is only months old, it's absolute bollocks.
I've seen him in town with a lil en and looks the same age as my nephew so would be starting school this year i would have thought.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, June 21, 2012, 17:52:02
#ff

Someone asked for a Twitter directory to be provided and I duly obliged.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, June 21, 2012, 18:00:41
Someone asked for a Twitter directory to be provided and I duly obliged.

Should have put in a random one somewhere, like Fatbury's, it would have made his day.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Coca Fola on Thursday, June 21, 2012, 18:20:58
All we need now is a back up GK and a CB.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, June 21, 2012, 19:13:10
Depends who we get rid of I just have this feeling that PDC & Wray still have a surprise left


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, June 21, 2012, 20:48:43
The main reason I think we need another CB is that we need experience at the back. McCormack, although an experienced pro, has only spent 1 season at CB and will face tougher opponents this year.

Devera and Flint have only played at lower levels and I'm not convinced they're good enough...


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: TheMajorSTFC on Thursday, June 21, 2012, 23:20:46
Looking like a quality squad for the upcoming season...3 in Monday, 3 in Thursday...how many more do we think?

Who's on the out list then as well?


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Berniman on Friday, June 22, 2012, 07:37:29
I think Flint is good enough for this level and the one above personally.  He is very young for a CB and will be learning every game.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Abrahammer on Friday, June 22, 2012, 07:47:51
I think Flint is good enough for this level and the one above personally.  He is very young for a CB and will be learning every game.

I think he definately has the potential but wouldnt mind getting in an experienced head to just to provide a bit more depth.  In saying that i thought Devera was excellent in the last 2/3 months of last season, wouldnt object to him starting season alongside Macca.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Berniman on Friday, June 22, 2012, 08:18:03
I do think we need experienced cover, but doesn't change my view on Flint though


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: LittleRed on Friday, June 22, 2012, 09:34:28
I don't think our back four needs tampering with too much. Thought it was ace last year.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: tans on Friday, June 22, 2012, 11:59:13
Michael duberry


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: walcot red on Friday, June 22, 2012, 12:05:21
Michael duberry

he does know where the goal is


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: LittleRed on Friday, June 22, 2012, 13:11:31
Got a head like a fifty pence piece


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: SuggWillSugg MBE on Monday, June 25, 2012, 14:00:40
Can we sticky this so I don't accidentally post in the wrong thread...


"Mehdi Kerrouche has had his contract with Swindon Town Football Club cancelled by mutual consent # STFC"


From twitter.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, June 25, 2012, 14:01:22
1 down several to go.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Langers on Monday, June 25, 2012, 14:05:58
No surprise really but a shame as he looked really quite good at times.

Oh well, in Paolo we trust!


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: tans on Monday, June 25, 2012, 14:18:20
No cash involved in pay off, just 2000 B+H

Smokin


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Abrahammer on Monday, June 25, 2012, 14:47:48
His 2 goals will at Crawley will live long in my memory.

Great performance, great finishing.


Title: Re: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: otanswell on Monday, June 25, 2012, 15:38:55
He was quality that day


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Riddick on Monday, June 25, 2012, 15:59:10
always looked decent to me and i'd of played him more than the others. Strange for a player who worked really hard on the pitch to not do any work off it. Oh well, wonder if he'll stay in England


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Nemo on Monday, June 25, 2012, 16:20:46
Kerrouche! Kerrouche!
Kerrouche has been fired!


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: DiV on Monday, June 25, 2012, 16:31:29
8 goals in 17 is a good record.

Contributed to some of our wins, thus our points thus us winning the league, so thanks for that.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, June 25, 2012, 16:33:59
He definitely contributed. Unfortunately for him and luckily for us, we didn't miss him.

FAO JONNY: LOOK AWAY... NOW!

THE SQUAD

GOALKEEPERS (3)

Leigh Bedwell (2013)
@bedders17
Wes Foderingham (2014)
@wes_foderingham
Mattia Lanzano (2013)
@LanzanoMattia

DEFENDERS (5)

Paul Caddis (2014)
No Twitter account
Alessandro Cibocchi (2013)
@alexcibo82
Joe Devera (2013)
No Twitter account
Aden Flint (2013)
@AFlint4
Jay McEveley (2014)
@jaymcev03
Chris Smith (Samsung)
@csmudgersmith90
Nathan Thompson - Contract offered
@nathan_t23

DEFENDERS/MIDFIELDERS (2)

Alan McCormack (2013)
@almc16
Oliver Risser (2013)
No Twitter account

MIDFIELDERS (6)

Lee Cox (2014)
No Twitter account
Simon Ferry (2013)
@ihatedanmarino
Tommy Miller (2013)
No Twitter account
Alan Navarro (2014)
@alannavarro31
Matt Ritchie (2013)
No Twitter account
Gary Roberts (2014)
No Twitter account
Luke Rooney (2014)
@luke_rooney
Jonathan Smith (2013)
@jonathansmith40

MIDFIELDERS/FORWARDS (3)

Billy Bodin - Contract offered
@BillyBodin9
Raffa De Vita (2013)
@RaffaDeVita23
Andy Williams (2014)
No Twitter account

FORWARDS (6)

Paul Benson (2014)
No Twitter account
James Collins (2014)
@JamesCollins9
Alan Connell (2013)
@AlConnell83
Lukáš Magera (2013)
No Twitter account
Miles Storey (2013)
@m_storey32

NEW CONTRACTS:

Paul Caddis (1 year extension)
Paolo Di Canio (2 year extension)


INS:

James Collins (Shrewsbury Town, compensation due)
@JamesCollins9
Jay McEveley (Barnsley, free)
@jaymcev03
Tommy Miller (Huddersfield Town, free)
No Twitter account
Alan Navarro (Brighton & Hove Albion, free)
@alannavarro31
Gary Roberts (Huddersfield Town, free)
No Twitter account
Andy Williams (Yeovil Town, free)
No Twitter account

OUTS:

Etiënne Esajas (Released)
No Twitter account
Lander Gabilondo (Released)
@lander_gabi
Callum Kennedy (Scunthope United, free)
@callum_k123
Mehdi Kerrouche (Released)
No Twitter account
Abdul Said (Released)
No Twitter account
Mark Scott (Released)
@mark_scott18
Phil Smith (Released)
@smudgeegghead


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: carbonwhite on Monday, June 25, 2012, 16:47:41
Yay lots of colours  :girlgiggle:


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Wednesday, June 27, 2012, 11:47:44
Not that you read much into squad numbers, but on the photo gallery on the official site, Alan McCormack is wearing 6 which would suggest that PDC see's him as CB.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Joycie on Wednesday, June 27, 2012, 12:04:59
Not that you read much into squad numbers, but on the photo gallery on the official site, Alan McCormack is wearing 6 which would suggest that PDC see's him as CB.

He was #6 at Motherwell back when he was a flying winger.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, June 27, 2012, 16:41:19
THE SQUAD

GOALKEEPERS

Leigh Bedwell (2013)
Wes Foderingham (2014)
Mattia Lanzano (2013 - Transfer Listed)

DEFENDERS

Troy Archibald-Henville (2014)
Paul Caddis (2014)
Alessandro Cibocchi (2013)
Joe Devera (2013)
Aden Flint (2013)
Jay McEveley (2014)
Chris Smith (2013 - Samsung)
Nathan Thompson (2013?)

DEFENDERS/MIDFIELDERS

Alan McCormack (2013)
Oliver Risser (2013)

MIDFIELDERS

Lee Cox (2014 - Transfer Listed)
Simon Ferry (2013)
Tommy Miller (2013)
Alan Navarro (2014)
Matt Ritchie (2013)
Gary Roberts (2014)
Luke Rooney (2014)
Jonathan Smith (2013 - Transfer Listed)

MIDFIELDERS/FORWARDS

Billy Bodin - Contract offered
Raffa De Vita (2013)
Andy Williams (2014)

FORWARDS

Paul Benson (2014)
James Collins (2014)
Alan Connell (2013 - Transfer Listed)
Miles Storey (2013)

NEW CONTRACTS:

Paul Caddis (1 year extension)
Paolo Di Canio (2 year extension)


INS:

Troy Archibald-Henville (Exeter City, compensation due)
James Collins (Shrewsbury Town, compensation due)
Jay McEveley (Barnsley, free)
Tommy Miller (Huddersfield Town, free)
Alan Navarro (Brighton & Hove Albion, free)
Gary Roberts (Huddersfield Town, free)
Andy Williams (Yeovil Town, free)

OUTS:

Etiënne Esajas (Released)
Lander Gabilondo (Released)
Callum Kennedy (Scunthope United, free)
Mehdi Kerrouche (Released)
Lukáš Magera (Released)
Abdul Said (Released)
Mark Scott (Released)
Phil Smith (Released)


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, June 27, 2012, 17:42:03
Who's number 12 in the pictures on the OS?


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Samdy Gray on Wednesday, June 27, 2012, 17:44:28
Roberts.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Swindon Please Win on Wednesday, June 27, 2012, 17:44:44
Who's number 12 in the pictures on the OS?

Believe it's Gary Roberts, you can tell by the ears.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, June 27, 2012, 17:51:16
That would have been my guess but I didn't think it looked that much like him. I take it those numbers will be the squad numbers for the forthcoming season.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, June 27, 2012, 18:40:39
Yeah it is Roberts.

Who is the Ginge 14?  And No.30? (who looks scarily like Joey Beachamp in one of the pictures)


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: cheltred69 on Wednesday, June 27, 2012, 18:42:07
14 is Chris Smith and 30 is Paul Mooney - runner-up in the Samsung competition who was offered a trial by PdC


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, June 27, 2012, 20:19:44
14 is Chris Smith and 30 is Paul Mooney - runner-up in the Samsung competition who was offered a trial by PdC

Ah OK. Cheers


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Thursday, June 28, 2012, 05:10:41
No Mooney thanks


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, June 28, 2012, 11:54:26
So am I correct in think that all the signings that PDC made when he arrived bar Risser have now left not very often that happens ?


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: chubbslovesbeer on Thursday, June 28, 2012, 11:58:22
So am I correct in think that all the signings that PDC made when he arrived bar Risser have now left not very often that happens ?
wes


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Paolo69 on Thursday, June 28, 2012, 11:59:26
wes

Wes came later and after an initial loan spell.

I'll give you Alan Mac though.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, June 28, 2012, 11:59:36
So am I correct in think that all the signings that PDC made when he arrived bar Risser have now left not very often that happens ?

De Vita, Cibbochi, Devera, McCormick,


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Thursday, June 28, 2012, 12:00:04
Lanzano


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: chubbslovesbeer on Thursday, June 28, 2012, 12:04:24
De Vita, Cibbochi, Devera, McCormick,
So really it never happens :doh:


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Berniman on Thursday, June 28, 2012, 13:57:33
So am I correct in think that all the signings that PDC made when he arrived bar Risser have now left not very often that happens ?

So in other words, no you are not correct.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Swindon Please Win on Thursday, July 19, 2012, 18:28:05
Squad numbers released.

http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10341~2853890,00.html

Mean anything? don't really know. Interesting to see Rooney #7.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: donkey on Thursday, July 19, 2012, 18:35:25
Squad numbers released.

http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10341~2853890,00.html

Mean anything? don't really know. Interesting to see Rooney #7.

Caddis 17?  Have I missed something?


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Barry Scott on Thursday, July 19, 2012, 18:38:13
Also interesting is Caddis is 17, Benson is 14 and Williams 16. Maybe it was kind of like last year where PDC says, "help yourself, I don't care" and it was a bit first come first served?

If I was a player, I'd choose number 1. It's also the number my best striker plays as in Football Manager.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: SuggWillSugg MBE on Thursday, July 19, 2012, 18:43:01
"Squad numbers just released for #STFC - Paul Caddis has moved to 17 after the birth of his first child on that date"

Chris Tanner just tweeted that.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Gnasher on Thursday, July 19, 2012, 18:44:44
Also interesting is Caddis is 17, Benson is 14 and Williams 16. Maybe it was kind of like last year where PDC says, "help yourself, I don't care" and it was a bit first come first served?

If I was a player, I'd choose number 1. It's also the number my best striker plays as in Football Manager.

I think Collins was quoted as saying he wanted the no 9 shirt.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: donkey on Thursday, July 19, 2012, 18:46:28
Also interesting is Caddis is 17, Benson is 14 and Williams 16. Maybe it was kind of like last year where PDC says, "help yourself, I don't care" and it was a bit first come first served?

If I was a player, I'd choose number 1. It's also the number my best striker plays as in Football Manager.

Should do it alphabetically...Ossie wore No 2 in 1978.  

Also, I just found out that Argentina won the fair play award in that tournament...pay off some Peruvian and unfreeze a few national assets?  Fair Play!


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: TheMajorSTFC on Thursday, July 19, 2012, 21:06:53
Rooney 7 has a good ring to it...will most likely go on the back of my shirt this season!


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, July 19, 2012, 22:44:29
Rooney 7 has a good ring to it...will most likely go on the back of my shirt this season!

Oh, I didn't realise you were 12.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Processed Beats on Wednesday, August 22, 2012, 13:44:38
Cibo's contract terminated by mutual consent. Family reasons apparently!


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, August 22, 2012, 13:51:53
Cibo's contract terminated by mutual consent. Family reasons apparently!
Disappointing but not entirely surprising. Good luck Cibbo.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: ibelieveinmrreeves on Wednesday, August 22, 2012, 13:53:39
Nooooo........Cibo...


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Paolo69 on Wednesday, August 22, 2012, 13:59:06
Bit bizarre being as he was preferred to Nathan Thompson on the bench last night i believe.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: corner on Friday, August 31, 2012, 15:27:32
Someone's going to be busy......


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Summerof69 on Friday, August 31, 2012, 17:02:06
I said at the start of the season, due to the short season with starting a week later due to the Olympics, and finishing a week earlier due to the CL Final at Wembley and having to play the PO Final a week earlier, I said that we will have to put up with a squad rotation system, eapecially that PdC wants to win every game possible.That means we'll could have cup runs on both the League Cup and FA Cup, and another assault on the JPT.

At the end of the day, the cup runs help balance the books...along with a promotion season.



Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Friday, August 31, 2012, 17:28:27
Strewth. A busy Deadline Day. OBSERVE! Bright colours.

THE SQUAD

GOALKEEPERS

1. Wes Foderingham (2014)
30. Leigh Bedwell (2013)


DEFENDERS

2. Troy Archibald-Henville (2014)
3. Jay McEveley (2014)
4. Aden Flint (2013)
5. Joe Devera (2013)
12. Alan McCormack (2013)
15. Nathan Thompson (2013)
32. Chris Smith (2013 - Samsung)
--. Darren Ward (LOAN)
--. Federico Bessone (Jan. 2013)

MIDFIELDERS

6. Alan Navarro (2014)
7. Luke Rooney (2014)
8. Simon Ferry (2013)
10. Matt Ritchie (2013)
11. Gary Roberts (2014)
13. Oliver Risser (2013)
18. Tommy Miller (2013)
19. Louis Thompson (YTS)
23. Raffa De Vita (2013)
--. John Bostock (LOAN)
--. Giles Coke (LOAN)

FORWARDS

9. James Collins (2014)
12. Paul Benson (2014)
16. Andy Williams (2014)
20. Miles Storey (2013)
--. Adam Rooney (LOAN)


NEW CONTRACTS:

Paul Caddis (1 year extension)
Paolo Di Canio (2 year extension)


INS:

Troy Archibald-Henville (Exeter City, compensation due)
James Collins (Shrewsbury Town, compensation due)
Jay McEveley (Barnsley, free)
Tommy Miller (Huddersfield Town, free)
Alan Navarro (Brighton & Hove Albion, free)
Gary Roberts (Huddersfield Town, free)
Andy Williams (Yeovil Town, free)

OUTS:

Billy Bodin (Torquay United, undisclosed)
Alessandro Cibocchi (Released)
Alan Connell (Bradford City, free)
Etiënne Esajas (Released)
Lander Gabilondo (Released)
Callum Kennedy (Scunthope United, free)
Mehdi Kerrouche (CS Constantine, free)
Mattia Lanzano (Released)
Lukáš Magera (Mlada Boleslav, free)
Abdul Said (Released)
Mark Scott (Released)
Jonathan Smith (York City, free)
Phil Smith (Released)

LOAN OUTS:

Paul Caddis (Birmingham City, Season Long Loan)
Lee Cox (Oxford United, Six Month Loan)
Oliver Risser (Stevenage, January Loan)


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Processed Beats on Friday, August 31, 2012, 21:29:13
Posted by someone on Twitter, but just look at that squad depth! Can make two good starting XI's out of that!

[url width=316 height=513]http://www.footballuser.com/formations/2012/08/508863_Swindon_Town.jpg[/url]


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Freddies Ferret on Friday, August 31, 2012, 21:32:21
That is a sexy looking squad


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Batch on Friday, August 31, 2012, 21:32:30
23 players is about right for a squad isn't it. I can't remember having 22 potential starers though (no offence meant to Bedwell, but he's still young).

Erm, good luck choosing 11 PDC!


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: STFCFORLIFE on Friday, August 31, 2012, 21:34:09
Just think against Oxford we could play: Bedwell, Thompson, Archibald-Henville (If fit), Ward, Bessone, L.Rooney, Bostock, Coke, Roberts (If fit), Benson, A.Rooney.

Give some first team regulars a rest.

So that's half of our 2nd team and we could still destroy that yellow filth.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: TheMajorSTFC on Friday, August 31, 2012, 21:34:24
It's not just the fact these are 'signings' they are quality signings as well...really excited for the rest of this season. League 1 take note, Swindon are rising!!!!


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: donkey on Friday, August 31, 2012, 21:40:23
Posted by someone on Twitter, but just look at that squad depth! Can make two good starting XI's out of that!

[url width=316 height=513]http://www.footballuser.com/formations/2012/08/508863_Swindon_Town.jpg[/url]

I'm a little concerned by our lack of depth at attacking midfielder.  We have 20 mins to address it, or it's Wray out and di Canio out.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: thedarkprince on Friday, August 31, 2012, 21:44:45
Would still prefer to get a keeper in now rather than try and play the emergency loan market if/when Foderingham gets injured.

With that squad though I'm seriously excited for this season. Was hoping to be in and around the play-offs but now I think we could not just challenge for the autos but the damn title.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: suttonred on Friday, August 31, 2012, 21:45:32
Sloppy, they've missed storey. I know he's young but the lad is good enough to be on that.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: jonny72 on Friday, August 31, 2012, 22:33:09
So Paolo got more than he asked for - that's 12 new signings over the summer, albeit some on loan.

Good that in the main it has been getting better quality players in. Reckon our squad would do ok in the Championship.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: RedRag on Friday, August 31, 2012, 23:22:43
Eff me, lil ole swindon, will be able to make 11 changes from the PNE game and still piss on the Pox


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: tj2002 on Friday, August 31, 2012, 23:28:38
Stupidly waited until now to put my league winners accumulator on. We're only 5/1 now. Backed us, City, Cardiff and Bradford for £2.50 each way and it banks £2k if it comes in. Buying money there 


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Notts red on Friday, August 31, 2012, 23:32:43
Thought our subs bench this season has looked really strong but now it will look unbelievable. Could even make a great 5/6 a-side team with the players watching from the stands.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Kinky Tom on Saturday, September 1, 2012, 00:37:44
just got back from work and read up on what's been going on.

said when i got to work at 10 this morning to one of our cheffs that ward is an excellent signing but i can't see who i'd drop in order for him to come in.  turns out we've signed a number of players you could say the same about.

most premiership clubs don't have the options we have at the moment - relatively speaking.

this is going to be one fantastic season and if we played man city tomorrow i would genuinely be expecting a result.

who was the last club to do back to back to back promotions?  northampton was it?  wonder what odds you'd be able to find for swindon to be starting life in the prem season 2014/15...


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, September 1, 2012, 08:28:13
who was the last club to do back to back to back promotions? 


Brighton?


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: jonny72 on Saturday, September 1, 2012, 08:50:30
who was the last club to do back to back to back promotions?  northampton was it?  wonder what odds you'd be able to find for swindon to be starting life in the prem season 2014/15...

Not sure about from the 2nd to Championship but plenty have had back to back promotions recently - Crawley, Southampton and Norwich for example. Think they said no team has ever had three promotions back to back. Though Wolves were relegated three times running.


Title: Re: Re: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Only Me on Saturday, September 1, 2012, 09:02:12
Brighton?
Southampton


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Saturday, September 1, 2012, 09:13:12
just got back from work and read up on what's been going on.

said when i got to work at 10 this morning to one of our cheffs that ward is an excellent signing but i can't see who i'd drop in order for him to come in.  turns out we've signed a number of players you could say the same about.

most premiership clubs don't have the options we have at the moment - relatively speaking.

this is going to be one fantastic season and if we played man city tomorrow i would genuinely be expecting a result.

who was the last club to do back to back to back promotions?  northampton was it?  wonder what odds you'd be able to find for swindon to be starting life in the prem season 2014/15...
Good stuff Kinky - no "I'm not getting carried away, I'll be happy with 9th" bollocks from you :thumb:


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Dozno9 on Saturday, September 1, 2012, 09:21:21
I'm sat here laughing in a James Bond evil baddie style about the potential havoc we could create on our pursuit to League One promotion.


Title: Re: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: herthab on Saturday, September 1, 2012, 09:33:51
Didn't Swansea, under toshack, go from 4th to 1st, pre Prem days, in successive seasons?


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 1, 2012, 09:36:42
Didn't Swansea, under toshack, go from 4th to 1st, pre Prem days, in successive seasons?
I am pretty sure it took them 2 seasons to get promoted to the top division hence taking 4 years not 3 to climb....I could be wrong.......but saying that their demise was equally as swift in returning to the bottom league a couple of years later.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Frigby Daser on Saturday, September 1, 2012, 10:02:26
If you were to name a 22 man squad now, with 2 players per position, I think Giles Coke would probably come in 23rd, and he os a good player at this level. Wonderful stuff


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, September 1, 2012, 10:16:56
lots of money spent on agent fees.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Saturday, September 1, 2012, 12:49:19
Alright Sergeant Buzzkill, who pissed on your chips?


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: kerry red on Saturday, September 1, 2012, 13:10:53
Didn't Northampton go from the 4th to the 1st and then 1st back to the 4th in successive seasons?

talking donkey's years here

Just got this from Wiki

They played their only season of their existence in the top division of English football when they reached the First Division in 1965–66. Northampton had been promoted from the Fourth Division to the First Division in the space of five seasons but were then relegated back to the Fourth Division by 1969–70.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Barry Scott on Saturday, September 1, 2012, 13:18:54
Wow, sexy squad. Glad I got money on us for champs before we'd even signed a player. *smug as fuck*

"The Invincibles of 2012/13," has a certain ring to it.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: STFCFORLIFE on Saturday, September 1, 2012, 13:27:45
Love topics like this where fan's of other clubs are jealous and have digs:

http://www.thefootballforum.net/index.php?/topic/213941-where-has-swindons-money-come-from/


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: nevillew on Monday, September 3, 2012, 11:28:34
Wow, sexy squad. Glad I got money on us for champs before we'd even signed a player. *smug as fuck*

"The Invincibles of 2012/13," has a certain ring to it.

er....


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: thedarkprince on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:30:08
Love topics like this where fan's of other clubs are jealous and have digs:

http://www.thefootballforum.net/index.php?/topic/213941-where-has-swindons-money-come-from/

Love how people like to sound like they're in the know, "we've got a £3,000 p/w salary max".  Everyone knows it's closer to £10,000.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: walcot red on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:36:58
Love how people like to sound like they're in the know, "we've got a £3,000 p/w salary max".  Everyone knows it's closer to £10,000.

Get it right we got promotion so the wages went upto £20,000 p/w.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: corner on Monday, October 15, 2012, 16:36:30
Navarro just tweeted "@alannavarro31: Gud news is its not my cruciate again, bad news is its my medial ligament, grade 2 tear, which I will b out 4 at least 4 weeks, #gutted"


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Batch on Monday, October 15, 2012, 16:55:16
That's good news, he's not dead and he's desparate to play.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Bukkake Regiment on Monday, February 18, 2013, 23:54:15
Posted by someone on Twitter, but just look at that squad depth! Can make two good starting XI's out of that!

[url width=316 height=513]http://www.footballuser.com/formations/2012/08/508863_Swindon_Town.jpg[/url]
:(


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Friday, February 22, 2013, 09:34:43
Luke Rooney returns.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: sonicyouth on Friday, February 22, 2013, 09:35:56
you haven't updated this for ages you useless bastard


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Costanza on Friday, February 22, 2013, 09:42:15
you haven't updated this for ages you useless bastard

Nope. But the my 'first town match' is up-to-date... So there.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: harrisonaw on Saturday, February 23, 2013, 09:24:33
Luke Rooney returns.

I hope he can show some of last years form in the last 14 games if he plays!


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: kaufman on Wednesday, February 27, 2013, 13:22:36
Just trying to see who's out of contract in the summer.

Devera, Flint, Ferry, Miller,Rafa,Storey,Bedwell.

anyone else?


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Wednesday, February 27, 2013, 13:34:38
Just trying to see who's out of contract in the summer.

Devera, Flint, Ferry, Miller,Rafa,Storey,Bedwell.

anyone else?
Think Nathan Thompson & Macca are aswell.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: BruceChatwin on Wednesday, February 27, 2013, 15:43:30
Ferry, Thompson, Devera, absolutely essential and need to be tied up now.
Rafa, Macca, Flint, Storey worth keeping but won't lose sleep over loss of.
Miller i would let go. He's done a reasonable job here to be fair but imagine he's on high wages and we could do a lot better for that.
Bedwell can't judge, but we need one back up goalie.

If that's all the ones up for renewal guess that means we're stuck with Navarro/ Roberts/ Mceverly another season which is a depressing thought especially as i think they're all on good wages :(


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: london_red on Wednesday, February 27, 2013, 15:48:31
Ferry, Thompson, Devera, absolutely essential and need to be tied up now.
Rafa, Macca, Flint, Storey worth keeping but won't lose sleep over loss of.
Miller i would let go. He's done a reasonable job here to be fair but imagine he's on high wages and we could do a lot better for that.
Bedwell can't judge, but we need one back up goalie.

If that's all the ones up for renewal guess that means we're stuck with Navarro/ Roberts/ Mceverly another season which is a depressing thought especially as i think they're all on good wages :(

I'd lump Storey in as essential to tie up. And De Vita actually.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Notts red on Wednesday, February 27, 2013, 15:49:17
Think Nathan Thompson & Macca are aswell.
It was said on Wilts radio earlier that it is 9 players who's contracts run out so that sounds about right.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Nemo on Friday, May 3, 2013, 15:02:55
Five 2nd year scholars offered deals- not exactly sure who but think it's Aaron Oakley, Mark Francis, Alex Ferguson, Connor Waldon and Louis Thompson

Edit: Official Twitter confirmed the names- all one year deals- would like to have seen two for Louis T but there we go.


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: sonicyouth on Friday, May 3, 2013, 15:46:50
Five 2nd year scholars offered deals- not exactly sure who but think it's Aaron Oakley, Mark Francis, Alex Ferguson, Connor Waldon and Louis Thompson

Edit: Official Twitter confirmed the names- all one year deals- would like to have seen two for Louis T but there we go.
that's 5 of our first XI for August then


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Costanza on Friday, May 3, 2013, 15:49:05
Here we go again then...

THE SQUAD

GOALKEEPERS

1. Wes Foderingham (2014)
30. Leigh Bedwell (2013 - Out of Contract)


DEFENDERS

2. Troy Archibald-Henville (2014)
3. Jay McEveley (2014)
4. Aden Flint (2013 - Out of Contract)
5. Joe Devera (2013 - Out of Contract)
12. Alan McCormack (2013 - Out of Contract)
15. Nathan Thompson (2013 - Out of Contract)
19. Paul Caddis (2015)
22. Darren Ward (2014)
31. Aaron Oakley (2014 - Pending)
32. Chris Smith (2013 - Samsung)

MIDFIELDERS

6. Alan Navarro (2014)
7. Luke Rooney (2014)
8. Simon Ferry (2013 - Out of Contract)
11. Gary Roberts (2014)
18. Tommy Miller (2013 - Out of Contract)
19. Louis Thompson (2014 - Pending)
23. Raffa De Vita (2013 - Out of Contract)
33. Alex Ferguson (2014 - Pending)
37. Mark Francis (2014 - Pending)
--. Lee Cox (2014)

FORWARDS

9. James Collins (2014)
14. Paul Benson (2014)
16. Andy Williams (2014)
20. Miles Storey (2013 - Out of Contract)
34. Connor Waldon (2014 - Pending)
--. Kayden Smith (2014 - Samsung)

CONTRACT OFFERS:

Louis Thompson (1 year)
Mark Francis (1 year)
Connor Waldon (1 year)
Aaron Oakley (1 year)
Alex Ferguson (1 year)


INS:

Kayden Jackson (Albion Sports, Samsung)

OUTS:


LOAN OUTS:


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: dphunt88 on Friday, May 3, 2013, 16:07:23
DEFENDERS

2. Troy Archibald-Henville (2014)
3. Jay McEveley (2014)
4. Aden Flint (2013 - Out of Contract)
5. Joe Devera (2013 - Out of Contract)
12. Alan McCormack (2013 - Out of Contract)
15. Nathan Thompson (2013 - Out of Contract)
22. Darren Ward (2014)
31. Aaron Oakley (2014 - Pending)
32. Chris Smith (2013 - Samsung)

Don't forget that Paul Caddis is still a Swindon Town asset until he's sold. His contract runs out in summer of 2015 I believe?


Title: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, May 3, 2013, 16:13:05
that's 5 of our first XI for August then

Well it would seem to fit the presumed scenario, of a major cull of out of contract senior players to be replaced by something a bit more affordable.  I'm not quite sure that some of our fans, are quite prepared for what lays ahead.


Title: Re: Re: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: herthab on Friday, May 3, 2013, 16:15:34
Well it would seem to fit the presumed scenario, of a major cull of out of contract senior players to be replaced by something a bit more affordable.  I'm not quite sure that some of our fans, are quite prepared for what lays ahead.
I'm 100% sure that none of our fans knows what lays ahead.


Title: Re: Re: Re: The Squad (2012/13)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, May 3, 2013, 16:16:35
I'm 100% sure that none of our fans knows what lays ahead.

Yeppers


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: dalumpimunki on Friday, May 3, 2013, 16:34:29
I love all this unfounded speculation.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: phelpsieboy on Tuesday, May 7, 2013, 09:33:58
Clauidiu Hoban will be joining us for a trial pre season. He was in the final 3 of the win a pro contract.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: CalRed45 on Tuesday, May 7, 2013, 11:34:03
Clauidiu Hoban will be joining us for a trial pre season. He was in the final 3 of the win a pro contract.

He looked quite good, unfortunate injury


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, May 9, 2013, 12:30:10
I'd be happy enough with this line-up come the first game of the season in August:

Foderingham

Thompson
Ward
Flint
McEveley

Rooney, L
McCormack
Navarro
Roberts

Collins
Rooney, A


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, May 9, 2013, 12:31:43
I'd be happy enough with this line-up come the first game of the season in August:

Foderingham

Thompson
Ward
Flint
McEveley

Rooney, L
McCormack
Navarro
Roberts

Collins
Rooney, A

THIS IS NOT THE TIME FOR RATIONALITY


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Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, May 9, 2013, 12:32:19
In fact, Byrne on the right wing ahead of Rooney and Luongo in the middle instead of Navarro would please me a great deal


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, May 9, 2013, 12:33:15
I don't think Andy Rooney will be staying.

I'd like us to give Byrne a go on the wing.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Riddick on Thursday, May 9, 2013, 12:35:47
getting rid of luke rooney and lee cox is next hopefully



Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, May 9, 2013, 12:37:51
I don't think Andy Rooney will be staying.


He's signning permanently


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: dporter on Thursday, May 9, 2013, 12:38:11
I don't think Andy Rooney will be staying.

I'd like us to give Byrne a go on the wing.

Who's Andy Rooney?!


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, May 9, 2013, 12:38:15
I don't think Andy Rooney will be staying.


What about Adam?


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Thursday, May 9, 2013, 12:39:05
I thought Byrne wasn't staying?


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, May 9, 2013, 12:47:26
Meh, you knew what I meant - I'm raging so much at the moment having read the Q&A story.

Have we not signed Byrne on free transfer then?


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Tails on Thursday, May 9, 2013, 12:49:53
Who's Andy Rooney?!

To be fair, we've got so many Rooneys in the squad it is difficult to keep up sometimes!


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, May 9, 2013, 12:50:28
It's how Jed spells Adam's name


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, June 11, 2013, 19:10:34
THE SQUAD

GOALKEEPERS

1. Wes Foderingham (2014)
30. Leigh Bedwell (2014)


DEFENDERS

2. Troy Archibald-Henville (2014)
3. Jay McEveley (2014)
15. Nathan Thompson (2015)
17. Paul Caddis (2014)
22. Darren Ward (2014)
31. Aaron Oakley (2014)

MIDFIELDERS

6. Alan Navarro (2014)
7. Luke Rooney (2014)
11. Gary Roberts (2014)
19. Louis Thompson (2015)
33. Alex Ferguson (2014)
37. Mark Francis (2014)
--. Lee Cox (2014)

FORWARDS

9. James Collins (2014)
14. Paul Benson (2014)
16. Andy Williams (2014)
20. Miles Storey (2014)
34. Connor Waldon (2014)
--. Kayden Smith (2014 - Samsung)

CONTRACT OFFERS:

Aden Flint (Rejected)
Nathan Thompson (2 years)
Louis Thompson (2 years)
Miles Storey (1 year)
Leigh Bedwell  (1 year)
Mark Francis (1 year)
Connor Waldon (1 year)
Aaron Oakley (1 year)
Alex Ferguson (1 year)

HAVEN'T A CLUE:

Adam Rooney

INS:

Kayden Jackson (Albion Sports, Samsung)

OUTS:

Joe Devera (Portsmouth - Released)
Raffaele De Vita (Released)
Simon Ferry (Released)
Tommy Miller (Released)
Chris Smith (Released)
Alan McCormack (Brentford - Free)
Aden Flint (Bristol City - Undisclosed)


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Cibocchi_Is_God on Tuesday, June 11, 2013, 19:14:34
Little bit worrying that our only players contracted until 2015 are the Thompson brothers...


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, June 11, 2013, 19:15:35
Little bit worrying that our only players contracted until 2015 are the Thompson brothers...

I'm probably wrong on a couple.

The smart-arses will correct me soon.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, June 11, 2013, 19:24:59
Wonder if we have an option on Wes? Still not expecting him to be here mind.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, June 11, 2013, 19:25:01
Jed has hinted on twitter that Wes has been offered a new contract.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, June 11, 2013, 19:25:36
Seriously, that's an impressive response time Flash :)


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, June 11, 2013, 19:27:43
I'm probably wrong on a couple.

The smart-arses will correct me soon.

Have Bedwell and Storey actually signed their contracts?


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, June 11, 2013, 19:28:12
Flash by name......


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, June 11, 2013, 19:29:53
Have Bedwell and Storey actually signed their contracts?

Same question can be asked for the first year pros.

I'm assuming and I'll amend if they depart.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Cibocchi_Is_God on Tuesday, June 11, 2013, 19:31:49
Surely we'd have announced something by now if they'd not signed their contracts? Been weeks since they offered/triggered new contracts..


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, June 11, 2013, 19:33:06
Surely we'd have announced something by now if they'd not signed their contracts? Been weeks since they offered/triggered new contracts..

Bedwell and Storey is a fair question as the second year pros but the youth graduates tend to just sign without fanfare.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Riddick on Tuesday, June 11, 2013, 19:38:34
Squad is looking a little thin isn't it! And more of that lot are going to leave i assume? Cox, L Rooney, Benson at least.

Hear the squad are back on the 24th June for preseason, wonder how many will be there day 1


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: leefer on Tuesday, June 11, 2013, 19:40:04
Fixtures are out next week.....Wolves away first up anybody?


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: TungstenCarbide on Tuesday, June 11, 2013, 19:42:46
Don't forget Caddis, Costanza!

Mind you, he'll be gone by August. He's probably still reeling at how much of a cunt Di Canio was to him for daring to become a father.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Cibocchi_Is_God on Tuesday, June 11, 2013, 19:43:08
Bedwell and Storey is a fair question as the second year pros but the youth graduates tend to just sign without fanfare.

Surely Bedwell will have signed the contract faster than Flasheart can post!? Couldn't see him getting anything from another football league club, Storey may not have signed though.. It has been a little bit tedious guessing who has and hasn't signed contracts though what with the whole "triggering" of contracts ect


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Riddick on Tuesday, June 11, 2013, 19:50:47
Storey signed straight away i'm sure, he was interviewed about it on the official website at the end of season


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, June 11, 2013, 19:52:36
Bedwell and Storey both signed, unless my memory has failed me.

I remember them getting congratulations over twitter and stuff.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Tuesday, June 11, 2013, 20:07:10
Birmingham have offered to take Paul Caddis on a season long loan I believe. Hopefully we hold out for a fee.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, June 11, 2013, 20:09:57
Birmingham have offered to take Paul Caddis on a season long loan I believe. Hopefully we hold out for a fee.

I bet that would please Neal Eardley unless they move Caddis in to midfield.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Cibocchi_Is_God on Tuesday, June 11, 2013, 20:11:09
I want a Thompson/Caddis right hand side, that'd be dreamy..


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: joteddyred on Tuesday, June 11, 2013, 20:54:34
Midfield is the biggest concern if it remains as is.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: sonicyouth on Wednesday, June 12, 2013, 11:46:01
Midfield is the biggest concern if it remains as is.
Rooney, Cox, Navarro and Roberts would be capable of doing a job.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Red Jed on Wednesday, June 12, 2013, 11:51:26
Birmingham have offered to take Paul Caddis on a season long loan I believe.

I can assure you this is not true at all, they have not made any contact with the club for a loan thats 100% untrue.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: AldbourneRed on Wednesday, June 12, 2013, 11:57:54
Red Jed, either the clue to your true identity is in your name, or that is one of the best played attempts at fishing I have ever seen.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Red Jed on Wednesday, June 12, 2013, 12:00:04
Red Jed, either the clue to your true identity is in your name, or that is one of the best played attempts at fishing I have ever seen.
My name is Jed and I am a red...nothing more ;)


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: TungstenCarbide on Wednesday, June 12, 2013, 23:30:22
If Red Jed is the real Jed (which he could be because he lives on the interweb)...

Don't fucking sell Wes Foderingham or James Collins! Also offer Dostoyevsky the role of Communications Manager/Head of PR.

Oh and don't sign Adam Rooney. Bin that fucking contract of his or make some freaky shit up about not being able to sign him because we found a dead mouse with the date 1943 tattooed on its back in Rooney's locker or somesuch.






Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: china red on Wednesday, June 12, 2013, 23:38:17
Jed, I heard you lost your left nut in a fight with a ferret, can you confirm this to be true or false.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: tans on Thursday, June 13, 2013, 05:43:43
Luongoooooo


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, June 13, 2013, 06:31:41
Luongoooooo

Is this a definite? Would be happy with this signing, think he showed some good things when he was here. His goal against Brentford was class. The tackle for the penalty, clearly less so!


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, June 13, 2013, 07:07:14
Luongoooooo

We need a little more than that tans.

Luongoooooooooooooooooooooo


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, June 13, 2013, 07:33:51
Luongo and Byrne are surely 2 of the 6/7 new players Jed has stated?


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Honkytonk on Thursday, June 13, 2013, 09:57:45
Luongoooooo

We need a little more than that tans.

Luongoooooooooooooooooooooo

LUONGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: kaufman on Friday, June 21, 2013, 06:31:48
5 more players to leave quoting adver
so doing a quick name check it seems 18 ish players (providing 6 or 7 come in) and
we then have the 5 youth players who signed up for
this season.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Batch on Friday, June 21, 2013, 06:42:41
Its just me isn't it, not sure I'm that excited by Luongo and Byrne. Don't get me wrong,  Luongo I think could be a hell of a player one day.

To me Byrne had a couple of good games, nothing more.

I'd hope and expect to see experience alongside Luongogogogogogogogo if he comes. I'd be more comfortable seeing some names linked in the adver that aren't Spurs/Premier League kids rejects.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: DiV on Friday, June 21, 2013, 06:45:02
I'd be disappointed to see Byrne back.

Luongo in a way reminds me of a young never played much proper first team football lesser Simon Ferry.


Title: Re: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Frigby Daser on Friday, June 21, 2013, 07:04:49
Byrne was a liability when I saw him - non-league standard.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: TungstenCarbide on Friday, June 21, 2013, 07:37:34
Luongo showed a little but looked inferior to Ferry in every department bar physical presence. Byrne looked like a 16yr old playing men's football...

Neither inspire me. Let's have some proven men who can do a job at this level please Jed.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, June 21, 2013, 08:22:05
 I hope the 5 include...Cox, Benson, Caddis and Rooney, because that leaves just Roberts, which wouldn't be so bad as we'd at least still have a keeper, a centre half and a couple of strikers


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: kaufman on Friday, June 21, 2013, 08:51:39
I hope the 5 include...Cox, Benson, Caddis and Rooney, because that leaves just Roberts, which wouldn't be so bad as we'd at least still have a keeper, a centre half and a couple of strikers

I don't think Cox will be going anywhere. Replace him with Ward or a decent bid for Collins (maybe both) and you've got your 5


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, June 21, 2013, 08:53:51
I don't think Cox will be going anywhere. Replace him with Ward or a decent bid for Collins (maybe both) and you've got your 5

Why, because of injury ?


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: kaufman on Friday, June 21, 2013, 08:59:05
Why, because of injury ?

I think so, out till october so would doubt someone would sign him. unless we released him while he was injured which would not look good on us.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: ronnie21 on Friday, June 21, 2013, 09:11:58
It's all getting a bit frustrating certainly.  Jed stated at the end of the season that a deal was agreed for Byrne (who I do not think was as bad as some on here made out) but we have never been told he has signed.  I am sure it was said that Luongo was looking for a championship club and "unlikely" to come back.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, June 21, 2013, 09:30:51
I think so, out till october so would doubt someone would sign him. unless we released him while he was injured which would not look good on us.

So if not Cox, then it will be another one of the players most would prefer to keep.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: DRS on Friday, June 21, 2013, 10:05:19
The problem we got now is that players like Ward Navaro and Roberts are getting to the stage in their career  where this season is key to how and where they finish their playing days.If they want a new two year deal next summer they know the wont get it here on the current wage hence why their agents are taking advantage of the situation and trying to sort two or three year deals elsewhere.

In my opinion Ward is the big loss but i have to say all the 3 mentioned look like their legs are ready to go at any minute. I am actually looking forward to a young hungry squad next year and genuinly believe youngsters will want to play for him,they have heard of him and he is know for being a great coach with youngsters,i think last year that was his downfall,the experienced players had no respect for him whatsoever.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Tails on Friday, June 21, 2013, 10:17:18
The problem we got now is that players like Ward Navaro and Roberts are getting to the stage in their career  where this season is key to how and where they finish their playing days.If they want a new two year deal next summer they know the wont get it here on the current wage hence why their agents are taking advantage of the situation and trying to sort two or three year deals elsewhere.

In my opinion Ward is the big loss but i have to say all the 3 mentioned look like their legs are ready to go at any minute. I am actually looking forward to a young hungry squad next year and genuinly believe youngsters will want to play for him,they have heard of him and he is know for being a great coach with youngsters,i think last year that was his downfall,the experienced players had no respect for him whatsoever.

I'm quite excited by the prospect of a young side, but also a bit wary. It can go either way! I'd still like us to have a few experienced heads in there personally.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Benzel on Friday, June 21, 2013, 10:18:48
The thing to remember is look at Walsall. They looked doomed when we played them at their place but their young team came good. Patience.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Tails on Friday, June 21, 2013, 10:24:47
Swindon fans & patience have never gone hand in hand!


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Peter Gibbons on Friday, June 21, 2013, 12:50:40
Swindon fans & patience have never gone hand in hand!

Depends, what sort of patients?  :insane:


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Friday, June 21, 2013, 12:54:20
Paying £25 a pop, I don't see why our fans should be patient. Paying those prices, our fans should quite rightly expect a playoff challenge at least. If the club aren't aiming for that then charge less.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Tails on Friday, June 21, 2013, 13:53:37
Well then we will never be successful.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: tans on Friday, June 21, 2013, 14:03:28
Roberts released from his contract.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Nemo on Friday, June 21, 2013, 14:05:00
Roberts released from his contract.

Blimey.


Title: Re: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: sonicyouth on Friday, June 21, 2013, 14:06:22
I consider that as good news.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: TheMajorSTFC on Friday, June 21, 2013, 14:09:18
Wonder how much we've paid to 'release him' from his contract  :sherlock:


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Bukkake Regiment on Friday, June 21, 2013, 14:13:46
Good, if he was on 2k a week he would be worth it, but for the money he is on he should have had a Ritchie like effect.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: LucienSanchez on Friday, June 21, 2013, 14:14:52
Wonder how much we've paid to 'release him' from his contract  :sherlock:

The wording makes it sound like nothing... he'll have wanted to leave, and we were happy to have him off our books.


Title: Re: Re: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: sonicyouth on Friday, June 21, 2013, 14:18:18
Wonder how much we've paid to 'release him' from his contract  :sherlock:
nothing according to Sam Morshead


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Simon Pieman on Friday, June 21, 2013, 14:18:22
I'd be disappointed to see Byrne back.

Luongo in a way reminds me of a young never played much proper first team football lesser Simon Ferry.

I think Byrne is awful defensively, but his crossing was the best I'd seen last season and I reckon he's really a winger.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: tans on Friday, June 21, 2013, 14:25:46

The County Ground‏@CountyGround10m
The shrinking playing squad mirrors the clubs shrinking ambition. Need to seriously readjust expectations. #STFC

steve collins‏@stevecollins887m
@CountyGround I'd rather have hungry average players on an average L1 wage than players who have talent but can't be arsed on a wedge

The County Ground‏@CountyGround1m
@stevecollins88 Speculate to accumulate. Those players were top of the league and were heading for the championship until the changes.


I dont think this chap quite gets it does he?


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Gnasher on Friday, June 21, 2013, 14:28:07
Best news this summer. Lazy, greedy bastard.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: random_five on Friday, June 21, 2013, 14:34:11
Best news this summer. Lazy, greedy bastard.

Yeah we haven't got any wingers on our books.. great news.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Spud on Friday, June 21, 2013, 14:37:40
Best news this summer. Lazy, greedy bastard.

Agreed. High earner who did fuck all!


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: DiV on Friday, June 21, 2013, 14:38:16
meh, I'm not sure if I'm happy or disappointed Gary Roberts has gone.

An inconsistent on his day player but what are we going to replace him with?


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Ardiles on Friday, June 21, 2013, 14:39:01
I'd love to know why Roberts could never produce the goods for us.  His 'performance' away at Orient was one of the most abject I've ever witnessed.  He'll probably go to Chesterfield (?) and play out of his skin for them.  Another Cureton.  Could have been brilliant for us, and wasn't.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Riddick on Friday, June 21, 2013, 14:40:26
He was rubbish because of PDC!!!


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: tans on Friday, June 21, 2013, 14:40:44
Fans ruined him early on i should think


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Abrahammer on Friday, June 21, 2013, 14:41:15
Best news this summer. Lazy, greedy bastard.

Greedy in terms of £ or when with the ball.


Title: Re: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: otanswell on Friday, June 21, 2013, 14:43:18
Typical scouse cunt earning money for not grafting


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Batch on Friday, June 21, 2013, 14:44:57
Big loss as he had quality when on song.

The fact we are releasing without a fee worries me, how desperate is the cashflow right now.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Gnasher on Friday, June 21, 2013, 14:46:33
Greedy in terms of £ or when with the ball.

I'd have to say both!


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Bukkake Regiment on Friday, June 21, 2013, 14:48:50
Yeah we haven't got any wingers on our books.. great news.
Luke Rooney will save us.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: DiV on Friday, June 21, 2013, 14:51:38
8 L1 assists last season, beaten only by Ritchie who had 9 for us (2 for muff)

8 puts Gary Roberts joint 17th in the whole of L1 last season - although Marvin Morgan managed 10 and Mark Duffy of Scunthorpe was 2nd with 15.

Somewhere recently Roberts was compared to JPM who also picked up 8 assists last season.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Tails on Friday, June 21, 2013, 14:57:59
The County Ground‏@CountyGround10m
The shrinking playing squad mirrors the clubs shrinking ambition. Need to seriously readjust expectations. #STFC

steve collins‏@stevecollins887m
@CountyGround I'd rather have hungry average players on an average L1 wage than players who have talent but can't be arsed on a wedge

The County Ground‏@CountyGround1m
@stevecollins88 Speculate to accumulate. Those players were top of the league and were heading for the championship until the changes.


I dont think this chap quite gets it does he?

He's always been a mong. Once criticised our youth set up because it wasn't like Barcelonas.


Title: Re: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: sonicyouth on Friday, June 21, 2013, 14:58:01
A luxury player we can't afford. If he was on 7k a week we could replace him with two lesser talented but more consistent players.

In theory.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Abrahammer on Friday, June 21, 2013, 14:58:49
That's our main, possibly only, player with a bit of creativity gone.  Whilst he he didn't live up to expectations he would have been a key player for us next season.

Probably would have been able to keep him if he was on a regular wage, cheers JW


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Tails on Friday, June 21, 2013, 15:03:15
Williams was far more creative than Roberts. Alright it was in a less graceful way and the opportunities he set up for himself were usually squandered but Roberts had what... 3 good games for us, at best?


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Abrahammer on Friday, June 21, 2013, 15:05:29
Williams was far more creative than Roberts. Alright it was in a less graceful way and the opportunities he set up for himself were usually squandered but Roberts had what... 3 good games for us, at best?

Creative for himself, yes definately but not for the team though.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: DiV on Friday, June 21, 2013, 15:07:23
Williams chipped in with 5 assists in L1 but a further 4 in cup competitions.

Just in L1
Ritchie 9
Roberts 8
Williams 5
Ferry 4
Flint 3
McCormack 3
Miller 3
Hollands 2
Thompson 2
McEveley 2
Luongo 1
Bostock 1
L.Rooney 1
Martin 1
Byrne 1
Collins 1
Devera 1
Benson 1

...I know he didnt play much but not a single assist for A.Rooney seems a bit surprising...


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Abrahammer on Friday, June 21, 2013, 15:11:55
Ummmm I'll change my point to focus about creativity from midfield then.

We have none left and we will need some from new signings


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Bukkake Regiment on Friday, June 21, 2013, 15:11:59
Duffy's a decent player. Anyone snapped him up?


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Bukkake Regiment on Friday, June 21, 2013, 15:12:39
Creative for himself, yes definately but not for the team though.
Not true. He opens up so much space in the opposition half, drawing defenders all over the place.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Tails on Friday, June 21, 2013, 15:13:24
Creative for himself, yes definately but not for the team though.

Yeah that's the only difference, although he did help out a bit and he did draw defenders out with his headless chicken runs. It's such a shame his form dipped so dramatically, he looked like a world beater in the 1st half of the season.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: kerry red on Friday, June 21, 2013, 15:15:45
That's our main, possibly only, player with a bit of creativity gone.  Whilst he he didn't live up to expectations he would have been a key player for us next season.

Probably would have been able to keep him if he was on a regular wage, cheers JW

He most definitely did not live up to expectations, so why do you think it would have been any different this coming season?

More proof of PDC's poor player recruitment policy


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Abrahammer on Friday, June 21, 2013, 15:25:26
He most definitely did not live up to expectations, so why do you think it would have been any different this coming season?

More proof of PDC's poor player recruitment policy

As with any prediction its guesswork, his performances under KMac were much better than under PDC though.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: DMR on Friday, June 21, 2013, 15:25:55
Good riddance to the jug eared clown. One of the most overrated players to wear the shirt.

His 2 performances against Brentford in the PO's were nothing short of despicable.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Abrahammer on Friday, June 21, 2013, 15:28:50
Not true. He opens up so much space in the opposition half, drawing defenders all over the place.

Good point if he then actually passed rather than run towards the goal head down, ignore teammates exploiting that space and then shoot from any angle.

He could tear a hole in this league if he changes


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Spud on Friday, June 21, 2013, 15:42:54
Somebody pass Ralphy a razorblade on facebook.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Fred Elliot on Friday, June 21, 2013, 15:50:23
Somebody pass Ralphy a razorblade on facebook.

Makes a change from him trying to get into that Charlotte bint's knickers


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Friday, June 21, 2013, 15:57:35
His 2 performances against Brentford in the PO's were nothing short of despicable.
He set up 3 goals in the second leg.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Friday, June 21, 2013, 16:00:48
Luongo showed a little but looked inferior to Ferry in every department bar physical presence.
From what I saw of Luongo he was superior to Ferry in terms of dribbling, skill on the ball, more energy, shooting, creativity.

I really don't get the love affair most our fans had/have with Ferry. A likeable bloke he may be, but an over rated footballer.

Luongo would be a good signing. Byrne however...



Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, June 21, 2013, 16:10:58
 So one more down at least a further 4  to go.....Roberts is a bit of a bonus, as couldn't see anyone taking him on his wages. The concern now though is that the 4 or 5 who we've got left that we might want to keep, will be seeking a move if possible, as they'll not want to play in a side stripped of its main players.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: TungstenCarbide on Friday, June 21, 2013, 16:15:42
Changy boy I bow to your knowledge as you probably saw more of luongo than me but against donny and 2nd game brentford he was risible. Ferry and mccormack would piss all over luongo and navarro for me though.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, June 21, 2013, 16:25:28
Collins not one of those leaving according to the Morshead one.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Langers on Friday, June 21, 2013, 16:32:46
JedMcCoy ‏@JedMcCoy 33s
Wes agreed new contract ..;).

Did not see that coming. Nice one Jed.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: nochee on Friday, June 21, 2013, 16:33:02
We'd has agreed a new contract according to jed on twitter


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: lambourn red on Friday, June 21, 2013, 16:33:04
Jed tweeting Wes agreed new contract


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, June 21, 2013, 16:34:28
Who signed, was it Wes?


Title: Re: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Batch on Friday, June 21, 2013, 16:35:45
Great news. Fantastic.

Now we can get a good fee :)


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: DiV on Friday, June 21, 2013, 16:36:38
From what I saw of Luongo he was superior to Ferry in terms of dribbling, skill on the ball, more energy, shooting, creativity.

I really don't get the love affair most our fans had/have with Ferry. A likeable bloke he may be, but an over rated footballer.

Luongo would be a good signing. Byrne however...



You're completely wrong...

Seems to be a running theme...


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: kerry red on Friday, June 21, 2013, 16:41:10
Byrne is a good player - just not at full back


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, June 21, 2013, 16:44:28
Just a verbal agreement from Wes so far.

SOMEBODY GIVE THE MAN A PEN


Title: Re: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: sonicyouth on Friday, June 21, 2013, 16:45:33
Byrne would improve given a run in the side but only the right flank


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: kerry red on Friday, June 21, 2013, 16:46:20
Agree. The Ritchie role


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: TungstenCarbide on Friday, June 21, 2013, 16:46:45
Here is what I don`t get... we released loads of players during the last campaign so how can the wage bill need much further trimming. Surely rooney, benson and caddis will get us down to way under 2mn? Cant believe anyone we sign will be on a wedge so why do we need to trim further? Maybe jed is going to play a blinder and surprise us all or maybe he is a clueless clown. We will know in a week or two...chang already knows who is signing I reckon!


Title: Re: Re: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: sonicyouth on Friday, June 21, 2013, 16:49:21
Just a verbal agreement from Wes so far.

SOMEBODY GIVE THE MAN A PEN
this worries me


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Batch on Friday, June 21, 2013, 16:53:29
Oh bugger, though it was signed, sealed, delivered.

Ah well, we'll see if reality matches the Jedality soon enough.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: DiV on Friday, June 21, 2013, 16:53:41
Here is what I don`t get... we released loads of players during the last campaign so how can the wage bill need much further trimming. Surely rooney, benson and caddis will get us down to way under 2mn? Cant believe anyone we sign will be on a wedge so why do we need to trim further? Maybe jed is going to play a blinder and surprise us all or maybe he is a clueless clown. We will know in a week or two...chang already knows who is signing I reckon!

Taking into account the fact that despite what people on here claim to know...

We all know fuck all about the budget, what it is, how much of it is currently taken and what players actually fucking earn.

As for Wes, great he's looking to commit but it's not unheard of for a player to sign a new contract just to be sold off anyway.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Batch on Friday, June 21, 2013, 16:55:58
As for Wes, great he's looking to commit but it's not unheard of for a player to sign a new contract just to be sold off anyway.

I don't think so. Though we did exactly that with Mildy.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Boy About Town on Friday, June 21, 2013, 17:06:05
Here is what I don`t get... we released loads of players during the last campaign so how can the wage bill need much further trimming. Surely rooney, benson and caddis will get us down to way under 2mn? Cant believe anyone we sign will be on a wedge so why do we need to trim further? Maybe jed is going to play a blinder and surprise us all or maybe he is a clueless clown. We will know in a week or two...chang already knows who is signing I reckon!

A clueless clown? I hope you don't think that. I think the man will be the savior. I think some people just need to show an ounce of patience, Jed will ensure we have a competitive squad and that we sign the players the manager wants... Jeez.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: DiV on Friday, June 21, 2013, 17:09:11
I don't think so. Though we did exactly that with Mildy.

We did and that was only a matter of days wasn't it?
I think Austin signed a one year extension in November and was sold in January.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Costanza on Friday, June 21, 2013, 17:18:30
If our chairman went on a social network to announce that one of our most important players has agreed to sign a new deal only for the club to sell him shortly afterwards then I might consider joining one of those angry 'camps' mentioned in the other thread!


Title: Re: Re: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: otanswell on Friday, June 21, 2013, 17:26:07
JedMcCoy ‏@JedMcCoy 33s
Wes agreed new contract ..;).

Did not see that coming. Nice one Jed.

They've been in talks since the end of the season


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: tans on Friday, June 21, 2013, 17:28:04
@wes_foderingham: Pleased to have agreed a new 2 year deal  @Official_STFC hopefully put pen to paper on Monday! Exciting things ahead and happy to be a part!


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: kaufman on Friday, June 21, 2013, 17:31:19
Good riddance to the jug eared clown. One of the most overrated players to wear the shirt.

His 2 performances against Brentford in the PO's were nothing short of despicable.

His back pass was a mistake but he put in some great corners that game including 2 in the last seconds of the match.

He's just getting on and can't perform to the same levels, that's why Huddersfield got rid.

He won't be missed because i think we're going to see a new look team that will surprise some of us....(giraffe neck sticking out here)
Good business from the club i think here and If Wes and Nathan are putting pen to paper then all can't be bad.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: joteddyred on Friday, June 21, 2013, 17:48:10
Its just me isn't it, not sure I'm that excited by Luongo and Byrne. Don't get me wrong,  Luongo I think could be a hell of a player one day.

To me Byrne had a couple of good games, nothing more.

I'd hope and expect to see experience alongside Luongogogogogogogogo if he comes. I'd be more comfortable seeing some names linked in the adver that aren't Spurs/Premier League kids rejects.

No Batch it's not just you.  I would be extremely unexcited if we were to sign either or both of them tbh.  I'd like to think we could attract better players who have a reasonable level of experience.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Batch on Friday, June 21, 2013, 17:57:21
Just to clarify, I think they could both be good signings. I just wouldn't want them to be our main signings. I think its too risky given their age and inexperience.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: DRS on Friday, June 21, 2013, 17:59:02
No Batch it's not just you.  I would be extremely unexcited if we were to sign either or both of them tbh.  I'd like to think we could attract better players who have a reasonable level of experience.
I suggest maybe you try and get a refund on your season ticket then.The club are going down the young player route,not everyones cup of tea but one maybe the fans have to get used to


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: tans on Friday, June 21, 2013, 18:01:04
I dont know what people expect. Ronaldo, Messi?


Title: Re: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: herthab on Friday, June 21, 2013, 18:07:03
Young, hungry players aligned with a manager whose status in the game has largely been made by bringing through the youth, sounds pretty exciting to me.
Obviously we need experience too, but I'd rather 80% young players than 80% old pros that have been round the block a few times.
Anyway, that's the way the club's going, whether people like it or not.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Posh Red on Friday, June 21, 2013, 18:32:06
I dont know what people expect. Ronaldo, Messi?

Don't forget Cavani, now that Man City have refused to cough up the £54m this paves the way for our bid ;)


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Friday, June 21, 2013, 18:32:14
So one more down at least a further 4  to go.....Roberts is a bit of a bonus, as couldn't see anyone taking him on his wages. The concern now though is that the 4 or 5 who we've got left that we might want to keep, will be seeking a move if possible, as they'll not want to play in a side stripped of its main players.
I don't have a problem with this. To be fair, its not much different to when we were relegated to L2. Wholesale changes to personnel who were allegedly inferior. Didn't do too bad in the end. Maybe something similar will happen this year? As long as were are competitive and play some decent, attacking football I think that most will be happy.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Cibocchi_Is_God on Friday, June 21, 2013, 18:51:14
I thought Luongo was superb in most if not all of his games here during his loan, better than Ferry during the same period (yes I know he was shifted out to the right) - I for one would be more than happy if we manage to sign players of similar quality this summer.

Delighted with Foderingham signing on, same with Thompson. Fair play to the board for getting those sorted. So long as we aren't relegation fodder then I'm more then happy with the sustainable strategy, at least until the club finds it's feet again.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: leefer on Friday, June 21, 2013, 18:58:19
Really suprised some bigger clubs aint knocking on the Luongo door...quality player i reckon.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Peter Gibbons on Friday, June 21, 2013, 19:08:00
Really suprised some bigger clubs aint knocking on the Luongo door...quality player i reckon.

It's been said countless times, but that PO semi final goal was sublime! One of those goals that brings a smile to the face (even when ignoring the circumstances).


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: welshred on Friday, June 21, 2013, 19:12:06
Has it been stated somewhere that we're after Luongo or are we just assuming? (Genuine question, I have no idea!)


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Posh Red on Friday, June 21, 2013, 19:15:04
Regarding Luongo, it's all about potential really.

Does he have the potential to improve and therefore become an asset in the future.

For me the answer is Yes, although there is no guarantee he will turn into a good player.


For all that we loved Ferry, McCormack, Flint and Devera have all been snapped up before him. That in itself must tell you something, especially as he is now a free agent.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: leefer on Friday, June 21, 2013, 19:17:20
We are after him but he was at Ipswich and did ok so he may have his sights set a bit higher.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Bukkake Regiment on Friday, June 21, 2013, 19:22:58
I thought Luongo was average, but yeah he is young so can only get better.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: welshred on Friday, June 21, 2013, 19:25:32
We are after him but he was at Ipswich and did ok so he may have his sights set a bit higher.

Oh ok.

He certainly has the attributes to go on and become a very good player. Can score, pick a pass and loves to put his foot in.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: joteddyred on Friday, June 21, 2013, 20:06:45
I suggest maybe you try and get a refund on your season ticket then.The club are going down the young player route,not everyones cup of tea but one maybe the fans have to get used to

Why make a pathetic dig like that?  Ffs I've barely posted on here in recent weeks and as soon as I do I get pounced on even though there are plenty of others who've made similar comments.

I don't have a problem with young players, but didn't think Byrne or Luongo were that good.  My personal opinion that differs from other peoples and may well be wrong.

At the moment I feel extremely indifferent and unexcited about next season, which isn't a particularly nice feeling to have.  Normally I can't wait.  However, I'm sure that when we start to see a few incoming players and as the first game approaches, I'll start to feel excited.


Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: sonicyouth on Friday, June 21, 2013, 20:11:09
Young, hungry players aligned with a manager whose status in the game has largely been made by bringing through the youth, sounds pretty exciting to me.
Obviously we need experience too, but I'd rather 80% young players than 80% old pros that have been round the block a few times.
Anyway, that's the way the club's going, whether people like it or not.
completely agree.

A team of experienced pros got us relegated in 2010/2011


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Peter Gibbons on Friday, June 21, 2013, 20:18:46
Why make a pathetic dig like that?  Ffs I've barely posted on here in recent weeks and as soon as I do I get pounced on even though there are plenty of others who've made similar comments.

I don't have a problem with young players, but didn't think Byrne or Luongo were that good.  My personal opinion that differs from other peoples and may well be wrong.

At the moment I feel extremely indifferent and unexcited about next season, which isn't a particularly nice feeling to have.  Normally I can't wait.  However, I'm sure that when we start to see a few incoming players and as the first game approaches, I'll start to feel excited.

Slight overreaction mate, but I agree there is a fair bit of sniping on here.

I have very low expectations for next season but I'm actually getting quite excited for it already.  Winning is not everything and when the fixture list came out I was looking for the do-able away fixtures and actually looking forward to it again. 

Chin up, I'm sure the excitement will hit you eventually!


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: joteddyred on Friday, June 21, 2013, 20:21:57
Slight overreaction mate, but I agree there is a fair bit of sniping on here.

I have very low expectations for next season but I'm actually getting quite excited for it already.  Winning is not everything and when the fixture list came out I was looking for the do-able away fixtures and actually looking forward to it again. 

Chin up, I'm sure the excitement will hit you eventually!

Hope so.  I'll be gutted if it doesn't!


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: ronnie21 on Friday, June 21, 2013, 20:33:31
Has it been stated somewhere that we're after Luongo or are we just assuming? (Genuine question, I have no idea!)
No it hasn't, when Jed announced the Byrne deal (which has still not been confirmed!) he did say they would like to try to sign him but thought he would go to a championship side.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Cibocchi_Is_God on Friday, June 21, 2013, 20:37:36
More excited about next season than I was last. Probably because we all expected and demanded a good season, the thought/fantasy of overachieving is more exciting than inevitable success.


Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Batch on Friday, June 21, 2013, 20:49:24
A team of experienced pros got us relegated in 2010/2011

And a team of experienced pros nearly got us into the championship twice.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Friday, June 21, 2013, 20:52:52
More excited about next season than I was last. Probably because we all expected and demanded a good season, the thought/fantasy of overachieving is more exciting than inevitable success.
I'm the opposite. last season I thought we had a good chance of getting into the Championship. This season i'm expecting a long hard slog.


Title: Re: Re: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Batch on Friday, June 21, 2013, 20:53:08
I suggest maybe you try and get a refund on your season ticket then.The club are going down the young player route,not everyones cup of tea but one maybe the fans have to get used to

It could be good, we'll see. Some premiere league youngsters we've had on loan have between good, most haven't. That's all I have to base things on.

It comes down to kmac in getting the  right ones. Right now we still have a good deal of experienced players so I'm not concerned yet.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Cibocchi_Is_God on Friday, June 21, 2013, 21:04:17
I'm the opposite. last season I thought we had a good chance of getting into the Championship. This season i'm expecting a long hard slog.

I can see why. It's just the thought of achieving against the odds is quite appealing, a slap in face to the doom shadow which has followed the club for the past 6 months or so.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: DRS on Friday, June 21, 2013, 21:06:58
Why make a pathetic dig like that?  Ffs I've barely posted on here in recent weeks and as soon as I do I get pounced on even though there are plenty of others who've made similar comments.

I don't have a problem with young players, but didn't think Byrne or Luongo were that good.  My personal opinion that differs from other peoples and may well be wrong.

At the moment I feel extremely indifferent and unexcited about next season, which isn't a particularly nice feeling to have.  Normally I can't wait.  However, I'm sure that when we start to see a few incoming players and as the first game approaches, I'll start to feel excited.
Wow.Wasnt even a dig,dont quite know why you thought it was to be honest.No offence meant


Title: Re: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: herthab on Friday, June 21, 2013, 21:09:28
Menopausal.....

(Now that's a dig!)


Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: sonicyouth on Friday, June 21, 2013, 21:14:03
And a team of experienced pros nearly got us into the championship twice.
Twice?

I don't think that it's as clear cut as requiring senior pros, there are far too many factors involved. We've become too accustomed operating beyond our means and for me this is a return to the norm.

We've always been skint and always sold our best players at inopportune moments.


Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Peter Gibbons on Friday, June 21, 2013, 21:18:55

We've always been skint and always sold our best players at inopportune moments.

and often-times at a price so low it brings a tear to your eye.  The Flint fee was reasonably impressive so that's something positive to take from this summer.


Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Batch on Friday, June 21, 2013, 21:23:00
Twice?

We've always been skint and always sold our best players at inopportune moments.

Yes last season and the Millwall final.

I take your point about always being skint being normal. I just hope we don't mostly rely on youth. A 2.4m budget should  mean we don't. And signing wes will be a good sign.


Title: Re: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: joteddyred on Friday, June 21, 2013, 21:44:16
 
Wow.Wasnt even a dig,dont quite know why you thought it was to be honest.No offence meant

Sorry.  I've had a crappy week and Herthab has hit the nail on the head

Menopausal.....

(Now that's a dig!)
:)


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Hammer on Friday, June 21, 2013, 21:52:14
No it hasn't, when Jed announced the Byrne deal (which has still not been confirmed!) he did say they would like to try to sign him but thought he would go to a championship side.

I have it from a usually very reliable source that Nathan Byrne has been advised that a contract with Barnsley is the preferred option.
Of more interest is the strong suggestion that ownership of the club will change hands before the start of the coming season. I cannot guarantee it....nothing is 100%. But watch this space. Up yours Chang!!


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Ardiles on Friday, June 21, 2013, 22:02:25
Of more interest is the strong suggestion that ownership of the club will change hands before the start of the coming season. I cannot guarantee it....nothing is 100%. But watch this space.

Wouldn't be the biggest surprise in the world, would it.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Friday, June 21, 2013, 22:16:19
I have it from a usually very reliable source that Nathan Byrne has been advised that a contract with Barnsley is the preferred option.
I said Banbury, not Barnsley.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Hammer on Friday, June 21, 2013, 22:23:35
Wouldn't be the biggest surprise in the world, would it.

I don't know what to make of it Ardiles, with all the comings and goings. I've been told that our new owner(s) has already been linked to the club....Crouch perhaps?
More importantly, has the pre-determined budget of £2.4m been determined by Jed using his own judgment or have our (prospective) new owners been pulling the strings all along. It seems confusing that Jed was a self-professed front man, yet retains 100% ownership of the club.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Hammer on Friday, June 21, 2013, 22:32:18
I said Barbury Castle FC, not Barnsley.

Corrected for you Pierre.


Title: Re: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, June 22, 2013, 00:41:38
Menopausal.....

(Now that's a dig!)

The male menopause is a controversial subject.....DRS,  :secret:


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: DiV on Saturday, June 22, 2013, 05:50:04
The Advertiser understands Darren Ward has met with Brentford regarding the possibility of a move to Griffin Park. Ward, 34, still has a year left on his contract with Swindon but is highly regarded by Bees boss Uwe Rosler.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: StfcRusty on Saturday, June 22, 2013, 06:26:38
Wow.Wasnt even a dig,dont quite know why you thought it was to be honest.No offence meant

It's not what you said ... it was the way you said it ... <sniff>


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, June 22, 2013, 10:03:07
 So, we must be nearing the bottom line, assuming that Benson, Caddis and L Rooney will go, and Foderingham is staying we're left with Jmac, TAH, Navarro, Williams and Collins...no chance of moving on the first two, Navarro would be good, but unlikely and we've heard nothing all summer about the last two.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: tans on Saturday, June 22, 2013, 12:40:27
3 year deal for Roberts then.

This made me laugh though..

"I don't think there's anybody outside the Prem who's better on the left wing": Chesterfield CEO Chris Turner on Gary Roberts.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Bosey on Wednesday, June 26, 2013, 23:26:18
Can someone update this as we make new signings? Smith and Barthram need adding.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: jonny72 on Sunday, July 7, 2013, 23:10:09
Who's in charge of updating the list?

Whoever it is get on with it as I've lost track of who has come in and who has gone.


Title: Re: Re: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: sonicyouth on Sunday, July 7, 2013, 23:29:47
Who's in charge of updating the list?

Whoever it is get on with it as I've lost track of who has come in and who has gone.
it is up to date.


Title: Re: Re: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: jonny72 on Sunday, July 7, 2013, 23:46:29
it is up to date.

Really?

You just did it didn't you, I'm sure it wasn't up to date a minute ago. If it was, my bad.


Title: Re: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: AldbourneRed on Monday, July 8, 2013, 07:53:00
Caddis should be on the list, unless I've missed something?


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, July 8, 2013, 08:00:33
GOALKEEPERS

1. Wes Foderingham (2015)
30. Leigh Bedwell (2014)


DEFENDERS

2. Troy Archibald-Henville (2014)
3. Jay McEveley (2014)
15. Nathan Thompson (2015)
17. Paul Caddis (2014)
22. Darren Ward (2014)
31. Aaron Oakley (2014)
--. Jack Barthram (2014)
--. Grant Hall (loan)

MIDFIELDERS

6. Alan Navarro (2014)
7. Luke Rooney (2014)
19. Louis Thompson (2015)
33. Alex Ferguson (2014)
37. Mark Francis (2014)
--. Harry Agombar (2014)
--. Lee Cox (2014)
--. Alex Smith (2014)
--. Tijane Freitas Reis (2015)
--. Massimo Luongo (loan)

FORWARDS

9. James Collins (2014)
14. Paul Benson (2014)
16. Andy Williams (2014)
20. Miles Storey (2014)
34. Connor Waldon (2014)
--. Kayden Smith (2014 - Samsung)


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: sonicyouth on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 16:56:28
Can we add Agombar now that Cooper said this?

Quote
Cooper also reiterated that Harry Agombar, who was an unused substitute in the 1-1 draw with Tottenham at the County Ground last night, has signed a contract at the County Ground – which is believed to be a one-year deal.

He said: “He’s a signed, contracted player. He’ll featuring tomorrow. He’s technically a good footballer. To be able to play for us now you’ve got to be able to handle a football with the way we’re going to play and he can do that.”
http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/news/10551913.Hoddle___Hartley_emerge_in_race_for_the_top_job/


Title: Re: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: herthab on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 17:55:43
Where's Pritchard?


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: leefer on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 18:00:48
Just outside of Tintagel i believe.

On the bench.


Title: Re: Re: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: herthab on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 18:02:22
Just outside of Tintagel i believe.

On the bench.
Oh right. Thanks.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: leefer on Wednesday, July 17, 2013, 18:04:34
Sorry Steve just realised you meant on the above squad list :-[


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: sonicyouth on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 11:14:03
Storey, Bedwell, Francis, Waldon and Ferguson have all signed one year deals according to Sam.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 11:20:11
Agombar is listed twice


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 11:24:11
 Taking out the banished and injured from Portugal, I make it we've about 17 or 18 players...including the youth team lads and the Samsung fella....is it 5 or 7 subs this season?


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: sonicyouth on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 11:26:47
Agombar is listed twice
eh? you're seeing things


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 13:36:28
Need to update the numbers. From photos on official site I could make out:

Bartram 12
Byrne 7
Tijane 11
Williams 16
Hall 5
Troy 21
Storey 20
Ward 22
Thompson 19
Yasser Kassim 32
9 & 14 ? (Samsung & Smith?)


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: sonicyouth on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 13:40:20
probably not worth it until the squad list with numbers is confirmed, won't be long now


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 14:32:11
Mason confirmed


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Gnasher on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 14:33:53
Mason confirmed

Come on you Spurs Reds.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Riddick on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 14:35:52
No more year long loans left now though! What we going to do!!!!!


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 14:37:04
We are going to be this season's Watford and storm League 1 and everyone will moan about our link up with Spurs, how it isn't fair that they are sending such good players on loan to little old Swindon.

Or we'll struggle.......


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 14:41:17
If his coaches are to be believed, Mason has the talent and dedication to be playing regularly at a high level in any league in the world. But his injury history and lack of playing time during crucial development years appear to have set him back to a worrying degree. At 22 he's one of the wise old heads of the Spurs youth setup, and he isn't getting any younger. Swindon are rumored to have expressed interest in taking him on loan, but another stint in League One is definitely not what he needs at his age.

http://www.cartilagefreecaptain.com/2013/6/13/4426860/tottenham-hotspur-prospect-rankings-ryan-mason



Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 14:43:43
Mason confirmed

Where was this confirmed out of interest?


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: SuggWillSugg MBE on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 14:46:03
Twitter, and facebook.

Swindon Town FC @Official_STFC
Town have signed midfielder Ryan Mason on a season-long loan from Tottenham Hotspur #STFC
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Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: leefer on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 14:46:47
If his coaches are to be believed, Mason has the talent and dedication to be playing regularly at a high level in any league in the world. But his injury history and lack of playing time during crucial development years appear to have set him back to a worrying degree. At 22 he's one of the wise old heads of the Spurs youth setup, and he isn't getting any younger. Swindon are rumored to have expressed interest in taking him on loan, but another stint in League One is definitely not what he needs at his age.

http://www.cartilagefreecaptain.com/2013/6/13/4426860/tottenham-hotspur-prospect-rankings-ryan-mason



Very similar to Timlin(albeit with Fulham) when he came here ...the pedigree is there lets hope he has the luck and drive.

Incidently i wonder if poor Timlin is out of nick now :hmmm:


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 14:48:25
Twitter, and facebook.

Swindon Town FC @Official_STFC
Town have signed midfielder Ryan Mason on a season-long loan from Tottenham Hotspur #STFC
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Danke.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 14:48:39
I see Morshead and Lyus have moaned about the lack of a press release!


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 14:48:51
An attacking midfield/playmaker then. Certainly seem to shaping up to play a continental 1 upfront (Williams?) next year with Mason behind. Doubt Collins will be replaced with another striker.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 14:53:39
Fods

Byrne Hall Ward N.Thompson

Tijane Smith Pritchard Luongo

Mason Williams ?



Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Riddick on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 14:53:59
Depends who is in charge i guess!

Looks like it will be the 433 we played against Spurs with Pritchard/Williams/Reis the front 3 at the moment. Think we need a goalscorer in there instead of Williams to make that work, Church maybe?

Then the three in midfield as Luongo/ANO/Mason, think we need a holding player in there, its probably thompson at the moment but hopefully somebody like Hollands instead.

In fact if we got Hollands and Church i'd be quite happy with how that eleven is looking



Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: china red on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 14:55:10
If Mason can stay injury free and get some games he could prove to be a great signing. 



Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 14:58:24
Depends who is in charge i guess!

Looks like it will be the 433 we played against Spurs with Pritchard/Williams/Reis the front 3 at the moment. Think we need a goalscorer in there instead of Williams to make that work, Church maybe?

Then the three in midfield as Luongo/ANO/Mason, think we need a holding player in there, its probably thompson at the moment but hopefully somebody like Hollands instead.

In fact if we got Hollands and Church i'd be quite happy with how that eleven is looking



I suspect if all goes to play, we should be getting more goals from midfield with this team. Mason, Pritchard and Luongo should all chip in and I doubt we'll have a 20 goal striker this season.

I quite like the look of the first 11 we can field. Much of it depends on the Spurs lads of course but I'm pretty content with what we have. Lack of experience is still a worry.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 14:58:36
Depends who is in charge i guess!





I'd of thought they'd appoint someone to play the chosen formation. No point signing Mason if we aren't going to incorporate a playmaker into the system.



Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Riddick on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 15:01:51
I'd of thought they'd appoint someone to play the chosen formation. No point signing Mason if we aren't going to incorporate a playmaker into the system.



Agreed, i think the 433 or 4231 is the way to go. Mason fits as the attacking player in the 3 man mid or the one in the middle of the 3 behind one forward. Either way though you need another physical holding player. Luongo was doing it against Spurs, but we need another experienced head with him. Hollands would fit perfectly.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Gnasher on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 15:02:30
I'd of thought they'd appoint someone to play the chosen formation. No point signing Mason if we aren't going to incorporate a playmaker into the system.


Playing Devil's Advocate, I wonder if Spurs will dictate our formation, to bring the best out of their young players?


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 15:07:38
Agreed, i think the 433 or 4231 is the way to go. Mason fits as the attacking player in the 3 man mid or the one in the middle of the 3 behind one forward. Either way though you need another physical holding player. Luongo was doing it against Spurs, but we need another experienced head with him. Hollands would fit perfectly.

Indeed, 4231 is what it seems to be.

I know some people have reservations about playing 1 upfront, but Swansea have shown how successful it can be if you focus on keeping the ball and denying opposition goal scoring chances.

I worry about our lack of height as we look a little vulnerable from set pieces as things stand. 


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 15:11:54
Playing Devil's Advocate, I wonder if Spurs will dictate our formation, to bring the best out of their young players?

One of the Spurs fans on here said something similar. Was a rumour that the Spurs/Swindon thing stipulates us playing the same way. Would make perfect sense from a Spurs point of view.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 15:12:41
Agreed, i think the 433 or 4231 is the way to go. Mason fits as the attacking player in the 3 man mid or the one in the middle of the 3 behind one forward. Either way though you need another physical holding player. Luongo was doing it against Spurs, but we need another experienced head with him. Hollands would fit perfectly.

(http://cdn.eplindex.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Spurs-Formation-2012-131.jpg)

;)


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Trashbat? on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 15:19:56
   Foderingham      
         
N.Thompson   Ward   Hall   Byrne
         
   Luongo   Smith   
         
Pritchard   Mason      Tijane
         
   Williams      
         
Story         
L Thompson         
Francis         
TAH         
Barthram         
Bedwell         
Waldon         


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 15:25:00
Mason Williams ?

Should be at Bristol Rovers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhMuCiAe6vA

Theme tune for the lovely summer of 1968...


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 15:38:06
   Foderingham      
         
N.Thompson   Ward   Hall   Byrne
         
   Luongo   Smith   
         
Pritchard   Mason      Tijane
         
   Williams      
         
Story         
L Thompson         
Francis         
TAH         
Barthram         
Bedwell         
Waldon         


I actually quite like that team, if real life were more like FIFA we'd spank a lot of teams next season. Unfortunately I think we'll be quite stringently bullied by a lot of sides.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Riddick on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 15:40:56
I actually quite like that team, if real life were more like FIFA we'd spank a lot of teams next season. Unfortunately I think we'll be quite stringently bullied by a lot of sides.

Agreed, thats why 2 or 3 experienced and bigger players will make the team look decent i think. Need 1 up top, and at least 1 more in midfield.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Trashbat? on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 15:44:00
Imagine Hollands instead of Smith in that team, I would bloody love that.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: random_five on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 15:44:49
Imagine Hollands instead of Smith in that team, I would bloody love that.


This.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 15:47:00
Anyone think that we might be trying to offload our expensive duds + Caddis before getting the experienced players in?


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 15:48:44
Anyone think that we might be trying to offload our expensive duds + Caddis before getting the experienced players in?

I do. If we can get the higher paid members of the squad off the payroll then I guess we have some moolah to get in 2 or 3 more experienced players. If we can't then we may be stuck sadly.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 15:49:15
Anyone think that we might be trying to offload our expensive duds + Caddis before getting the experienced players in?
Thought that was said all along - Signings were dependent upon squad movement.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 15:51:29
Anyone think that we might be trying to offload our expensive duds + Caddis before getting the experienced players in?

Indeed. Someone like Benson might not be the player he was, but he's under contract for another year so make use of him. We simply can't afford to not be using a senior player in some way. If that means just using him off the bench for the final 20 minutes then so be it.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: leefer on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 15:56:59
Expensive duds?

Top of the league before this new regime came in,hardly duds.

And Caddis did ok at Brum so not sure i agree with your wording....and Benson is certainly no dud.


Maybe you should have said getting rid of a big decent squad on high wages...that would have been more apt in my view.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 15:57:49
Anyone think that we might be trying to offload our expensive duds + Caddis before getting the experienced players in?

I think that's the case.

However, if we can't move the high earners on we might as well play them. Depending on appearance bonuses....


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: singingiiiffy on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 16:06:11
Jed, when question about lack of league 1 experience: Morning.. Agreed on experience trying to get a couple in...


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 16:09:31
Expensive duds?

Top of the league before this new regime came in,hardly duds.

And Caddis did ok at Brum so not sure i agree with your wording....and Benson is certainly no dud.


Maybe you should have said getting rid of a big decent squad on high wages...that would have been more apt in my view.

Caddis I didn't include in my duds statement. Benson's legs were gone at the start of last season, he wasn't good enough for us in League One, and he hardly set Cheltenham alight.

Then you've got Cox (dud), Rooney (both dud), Navarro (dud), Collins (doesn't want to be here).

Wrong again leefer x



Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 16:22:44
Cox, Rooney, McEveley, Navarro and Benson would all make our strongest squad, most have a good case to be included in our best 11.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 16:27:00
And yet none were playing regularly when we were at the top of League One.

How can you even judge our best 11 when you haven't seen the majority of them play?


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 16:32:42
Cox, Rooney, McEveley, Navarro and Benson would all make our strongest squad, most have a good case to be included in our best 11.

I think there are questions to be asked of Cox (not seen enough) Nevaro (not seen fit for long enough) and Rooney L (50/50, has ability).

No doubt in my mind J Mac is currently better than Byrne and Benson still has enough to at least hold a squad place.

But we can't afford them. And if shifting them means getting more experience in then I guess they need to be shifted ASAP. Probably best for them anyway. I certainly don't hold any grudges against them if they stay because they can't find a club.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 16:32:57
And yet none were playing regularly when we were at the top of League One.

...because we had better players at the time keeping them out the team - most of whom have now gone.



Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: leefer on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 16:58:09
Caddis I didn't include in my duds statement. Benson's legs were gone at the start of last season, he wasn't good enough for us in League One, and he hardly set Cheltenham alight.

Then you've got Cox (dud), Rooney (both dud), Navarro (dud), Collins (doesn't want to be here).

Wrong again leefer x



Bli
Caddis I didn't include in my duds statement. Benson's legs were gone at the start of last season, he wasn't good enough for us in League One, and he hardly set Cheltenham alight.

Then you've got Cox (dud), Rooney (both dud), Navarro (dud), Collins (doesn't want to be here).

Wrong again leefer x



No expensive duds here last season....PDC got us top of the league by using the WHOLE squad...each one contributed including all the expensive duds you mention.

Didn't see your bit about Caddis...i must be blinder than you.

Open your eyes..x


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: tans on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 16:59:00
Cox didnt ;)


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 17:02:38
And yet none were playing regularly when we were at the top of League One.

How can you even judge our best 11 when you haven't seen the majority of them play?

Of the XI that started at Tranmere (a) in Feb and took us to the top of the league...we're left with Foderingham, Ward and Storey. We'd already lost Ritchie, Hollands and Martin, from the side that looked pwerful around the turn of the year.

Nobody has a clue how our inexperienced, much changed side may do...conventional wisdom suggests a struggle, but it doesn't always work that way.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: leefer on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 17:17:37
Of the XI that started at Tranmere (a) in Feb and took us to the top of the league...we're left with Foderingham, Ward and Storey. We'd already lost Ritchie, Hollands and Martin, from the side that looked pwerful around the turn of the year.

Nobody has a clue how our inexperienced, much changed side may do...conventional wisdom suggests a struggle, but it doesn't always work that way.


My guess is we wont be top with 6 matches to go.

Thats not knocking the new board or the new players...we all know that things had to change.

Just fed up with the constant barracking of ex players who worked there balls of to get us top before the shit hit the fan.(expensive dud statements)

It was a great squad with a will to win,players like De Vita Benson,Navarro(who was MOM in two matches) all contributing to a team who was top of the league and had very good cup runs in two comps.

Most have left because the new board want to sell them for reasons we all understand.....yet they are getting parting shots akin with players we had previously under Wilson who finished rock bottom.





Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: LucienSanchez on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 17:49:12
This squad is not good enough, not old enough, not experienced enough, not tough enough, not selected with a formation or system in mind, and not chosen by a manager who wants them. And that is a recipe for disaster. I am indeed drunk  though...


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Peter Gibbons on Tuesday, July 23, 2013, 23:24:10

Most have left because the new board want to sell them for reasons we all understand.....yet they are getting parting shots akin with players we had previously under Wilson who finished rock bottom.



Yeah, I'd noticed a fair bit of that.  "Last season's underachievers" was a phrase used more than once on Facebook - what, getting to the play-offs at the first time of asking and only missing out on promotion as a result of best player being sold (amongst other reasons, admittedly)? 


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: sonicyouth on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 01:15:15
Surprised people are so precious about describing former or soon to be former players. Isn't it a written rule that you slag off a player as soon as he leaves? Ritchie is a shit cunt anyway.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 06:32:13
This squad is not good enough, not old enough, not experienced enough, not tough enough, not selected with a formation or system in mind, and not chosen by a manager who wants them. And that is a recipe for disaster. I am indeed drunk  though...

In the morning you will be sober....and you're statement will still be true.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 09:19:49
Surprised people are so precious about describing former or soon to be former players. Isn't it a written rule that you slag off a player as soon as he leaves? Ritchie is a shit cunt anyway.
Nah. I think the modern game has changed this.

Ritchie is a mighty fine player, who is far too good to be playing Championship football. He has matured well and is knocking on the door of the Premiership. He is a highly valued asset of Bournemouth and is one that should be snapped up by a Premiership team as soon as possible. Ritchie's value is only going to go up, so Premiership teams should try to table a cheeky £10million bid to get him sooner rather than at 10 times the value later.

Then, after we get our 20% (or whatever it is) sell on fee - He's a shit cunt!


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Trashbat? on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 09:24:54
Nah. I think the modern game has changed this.

Ritchie is a mighty fine player, who is far too good to be playing Championship football. He has matured well and is knocking on the door of the Premiership. He is a highly valued asset of Bournemouth and is one that should be snapped up by a Premiership team as soon as possible. Ritchie's value is only going to go up, so Premiership teams should try to table a cheeky £10million bid to get him sooner rather than at 10 times the value later.

Then, after we get our 20% (or whatever it is) sell on fee - He's a shit cunt!

I may be wrong, but I seem to remember we sold him without any future add-ons because we were so desperate for cash.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: chunky monkey on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 09:59:32
I may be wrong, but I seem to remember we sold him without any future add-ons because we were so desperate for cash.

Seem to recall reading that somewhere


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: sonicyouth on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 10:28:32
I was right then.

Ritchie can rot in the south coast sun


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Wednesday, July 24, 2013, 11:30:06
I was right then.

Ritchie can rot in the south coast sun
Apparently so - He's a shit cunt! :-)


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Riddick on Tuesday, July 30, 2013, 13:17:35
Squad numbers available yet?


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: donkey on Tuesday, July 30, 2013, 13:18:34
Squad numbers available yet?

Yep. Start at 1 and go up from there.  Probably no number 13, though. HTH.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, August 1, 2013, 18:48:07
just noticed that we've signed more players than we've let go


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, August 1, 2013, 19:23:57
@AdverSportCraig: I'd make a thing out of Troy snubbing the pic call today but he already does more than enough on the pitch to earn his 8k a week.

Wtf?


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Thursday, August 1, 2013, 19:26:29
@AdverSportCraig: I'd make a thing out of Troy snubbing the pic call today but he already does more than enough on the pitch to earn his 8k a week.

Wtf?

Its a good job Troy hasn't got Ledley King'esque knees!


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Bogus Dave on Thursday, August 1, 2013, 19:30:52
Who the fuck is that tubbster at the far left of the team photo? Belly on him


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, August 1, 2013, 19:35:47
Who the fuck is that tubbster at the far left of the team photo? Belly on him
Where is this photo?


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Boy About Town on Thursday, August 1, 2013, 19:43:57
Its a good job Troy hasn't got Ledley King'esque knees!

TAH is one life form worse than pondlife.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Bogus Dave on Thursday, August 1, 2013, 19:47:12
http://twitter.com/danjohnson_stfc/status/362953159859118080/photo/1


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Thursday, August 1, 2013, 19:50:32
TAH is one life form worse than pondlife.

Whats he done to you?


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: woolster on Thursday, August 1, 2013, 19:50:45
Who the fuck is that tubbster at the far left of the team photo? Belly on him
Not sure if its the shirts, but a lot of them look like they have beer bellies  :pint:


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Thursday, August 1, 2013, 19:52:46
Not sure if its the shirts, but a lot of them look like they have beer bellys :pint:
They shouldn't have beer bellies, they're too young to drink. Is this the Milk Cup squad?


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: woolster on Thursday, August 1, 2013, 19:54:00
They shouldn't have beer bellies, they're too young to drink. Is this the Milk Cup squad?
:)


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Posh Red on Thursday, August 1, 2013, 20:00:07
They shouldn't have beer bellies, they're too young to drink. Is this the Milk Cup squad?

It's puppy fat, once they hit puberty the fat will fall off them, until they find beer that is


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Panda Paws on Thursday, August 1, 2013, 20:36:24
No sign of Ty Belford? Is that not Troy back left?


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Berniman on Thursday, August 1, 2013, 20:52:42
No sign of Ty Belford? Is that not Troy black left?

Racist!


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: LucienSanchez on Thursday, August 1, 2013, 22:18:43
He's in the group shot... refused to do individual ones and went home


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, August 1, 2013, 22:22:55
he seems like an odd bloke.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, August 1, 2013, 22:29:38
He looks like he's trying to walk out of the team photo!


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Baggins on Thursday, August 1, 2013, 22:36:51
As an ex-season ticket holder of 17 years I feel quite sad about how few of the players I can name by looking at that photo.  Foderingham, McEveley (and if one more poster puts an "r" in his name I will cry) and Ward.  I never thought that would happen.  Life gets in the way sometimes.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Honkytonk on Thursday, August 1, 2013, 23:02:39
McEveley (and if one more poster puts an "r" in his name I will cry)

Surely you mean mcEvarrrrley?


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, August 2, 2013, 00:57:53
http://twitter.com/danjohnson_stfc/status/362953159859118080/photo/1
A picture never lies....


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Berniman on Friday, August 2, 2013, 06:25:49
As an ex-season ticket holder of 17 years I feel quite sad about how few of the players I can name by looking at that photo.  Foderingham, McEveley (and if one more poster puts an "r" in his name I will cry) and Ward.  I never thought that would happen.  Life gets in the way sometimes.

But why let it bother you?  just ignore them.

 ;)


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: kerry red on Friday, August 2, 2013, 06:45:05
Looking at those guts it does go to prove that breast milk and Ready Brek really gives them a good start in life

Bitty


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, August 2, 2013, 06:46:25
Almost certainly if Troy didn't have knees made from stickle bricks we'd try and punt him.

Expensive waste of a shirt if you ask me.

Fair play if he comes back strong and turns into the player that he was at Exeter but at the moment we've got a spoiled brat being paid excessive wages.

PDC was on sky sports new this morning, if it wasn't my TV i'd have put my foot through it.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, August 2, 2013, 06:54:55
Almost certainly if Troy didn't have knees made from stickle bricks we'd try and punt him.

Expensive waste of a shirt if you ask me.

Fair play if he comes back strong and turns into the player that he was at Exeter but at the moment we've got a spoiled brat being paid excessive wages.

PDC was on sky sports new this morning, if it wasn't my TV i'd have put my foot through it.

From that photo it looks lik his left knee is so weak that he cannot even stand up straight!

Whats your gripe with Paolo it wasn't his fault that we could not deliver the degree of loyalty he demanded.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Batch on Friday, August 2, 2013, 06:56:59
Whats your gripe with Paolo it wasn't his fault that we could not deliver the degree of loyalty he demanded.

He couldn't even deliver the degree of loyalty he demanded.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, August 2, 2013, 07:03:24
From that photo it looks lik his left knee is so weak that he cannot even stand up straight!

Whats your gripe with Paolo it wasn't his fault that we could not deliver the degree of loyalty he demanded.

I don't want to start a big debate again as there have been loads in pre-season, but these rumours of our players being on excessive salaries has worried me and the chaps involved in the club previously have to take some responsibility. My Scottish club Hearts are now deep in the shit by trying to do a similar thing to Swindon (although that was with crazy foreign trigger happy owners) and I look at them and think that could have been us, had someone anyone not come in to tidy up the expensive mess. Jed and Co have lots to learn and need to tell the fans what is going on (Power etc) and improve the communication massively, but to me at least they are trying to salvage something from Paolo's era which surely can't be hard when you are trying to punt 33 year old strikers on big salaries to league 2 clubs, for example. (probably)

Paolo is the easy target, so I am picking him! :)

Oh and I would be a hypocrite to say I didn't love Paolo's time here, some of the football was brilliant, but times change, and he's now an egotistical tampon.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, August 2, 2013, 07:09:45
I don't want to start a big debate again as there have been loads in pre-season, but these rumours of our players being on excessive salaries has worried me and the chaps involved in the club previously have to take some responsibility.

Paolo is the easy target, so I am picking him! :)

Oh and I would be a hypocrite to say I didn't love Paolo's time here, some of the football was brilliant, but times change, and he's now an egotistical tampon.

I agree with all of the above entirely, interesting times and seasons ahead. Whilst it has been frankly depressing at times the last 3 months there is part of me that is glad that it happened when it did as another 2-3 years of the spending and I dread to think what state we would be in.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, August 2, 2013, 12:07:08
SWINDON Town have announced their squad numbers for the 2013/14 season.

1. Wes Foderingham
2. Nathan Thompson
3. Nathan Byrne
4. Massimo Luongo
5. Grant Hall
6. Tijane Reis
7. Ryan Harley
8. Ryan Mason
10. Andy Williams
11. Alex Pritchard
14. Jay McEveley
16. Mark Francis
17. Connor Waldon
18. Alex Ferguson
19. Louis Thompson
20. Miles Storey
21. Alex Smith
22. Darren Ward (Captain)
23. Jack Barthram
26. Aaron Oakley
27. Harry Agombar
30. Leigh Bedwell
35. Kayden Jackson
41. Troy Archibald-Henville

Interesting to see the number 9 jersey has not been given to anybody.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, August 2, 2013, 12:09:21
I noticed that myself JJ


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, August 2, 2013, 12:13:00
I also see the club has announced 2 new members of the coaching staff.

http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/article/coachingadditions-962917.aspx

Quote
PUBLISHED

12:29 2nd August 2013

by Swindontownfc.co.uk
SWINDON Town are delighted to announce two new additions to the first team coaching staff.

Luke Williams joins as a First Team Coach while Michael Cooper will fulfil the role of Sports Scientist.

32 year-old Williams has spent the last three seasons at Brighton and Hove Albion where he was in charge of the Under 21s and was a coach with the reserve team. He has also been an FA Skills Coach and has worked at Leyton Orient and at West Ham.

Cooper qualified as a Sports Scientist from the University of Hertfordshire, where he spent a year working with Championship side Watford. The 24 year-old then studied for a Masters Degree at Loughborough University where he worked with the University’s first team. He also has recent experience of working with clubs in the Premier League.



Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, August 2, 2013, 12:14:29
I noticed that myself JJ
I think we can all see that an experienced target man is needed and I think this shows that is the priority.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Sir Pissalot on Friday, August 2, 2013, 12:16:48
 
He couldn't even deliver the degree of loyalty he demanded.

 :clap:


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Red Frog on Friday, August 2, 2013, 12:19:51
Also that TAH remains apart from the rest of the squad, as usual.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Trashbat? on Friday, August 2, 2013, 12:26:44
Reis, number 6?? wingers aren't number 6's!!


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Honkytonk on Friday, August 2, 2013, 12:27:30
I think we can all see that an experienced target man is needed and I think this shows that is the priority.

Or perhaps nobody wanted it?


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: STFCFORLIFE on Friday, August 2, 2013, 12:29:52
Navarro hasn't got a squad number then!


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, August 2, 2013, 12:45:47
Navarro hasn't got a squad number then!

Or Benson, Caddis and L.Rooney.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: RedRag on Friday, August 2, 2013, 12:50:48
another 2-3 years of the spending and I dread to think what state we would be in.
Yeah, the Premier League is too plastic for us


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, August 2, 2013, 12:52:15
http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/article/coachingadditions-962917.aspx

Liking those polo shirts.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: china red on Friday, August 2, 2013, 12:58:14
On the squad photo who is sat on the left of Mark Cooper?


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, August 2, 2013, 13:01:14
On the squad photo who is sat on the left of Mark Cooper?

Luke Williams.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: wokinghamred on Friday, August 2, 2013, 13:01:50
Or Benson, Caddis and L.Rooney.

Or Tyrell Belford. Is he being forced out as well ?
I always thought he was rubbish !


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: china red on Friday, August 2, 2013, 13:04:17
Luke Williams.

He looks like Tisdale.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: london_red on Friday, August 2, 2013, 13:12:35
Someone's put themselves forward for that number 9 shirt. Quality work from Jan the Man on twitter:

Quote from: Jan Aage Fjortoft
I can play for free Swindon Town. And only midweek-games.When there is no ChampionsLeague. And just at County Ground. But I will score goals



Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: kaufman on Friday, August 2, 2013, 13:12:49
The two guys about to sign are in the picture but not given squad numbers as yet.
Unless my eyes are deceiving me?

Lee Cox also not in picture or given squad number.

Well if those 4 players go (Caddis, Benson, Rooney & Navarro) we would have knocked nigh on 2 million off the wage bill reading between the lines of press reports e.t.c.

As long as the squad exceeds a lot of the supporters expectations (getting relegated) then the board have done an excellent job of at least making us sustainable.

Of course if we start to do well, some fans will then demand we should be winning this league and will want us spending cash like it's gone out of fashion.

The Coventry scenario puts things into massive perspective. Roll on Saturday.



Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, August 2, 2013, 13:35:27
The two guys about to sign are in the picture but not given squad numbers as yet.
Unless my eyes are deceiving me?

Lee Cox also

The problem is the photo is so bloody small!


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Trashbat? on Friday, August 2, 2013, 13:51:19

Lee Cox also

Are you thinking of the one between L.Thompson and Pritchard? if so that is Barthram.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: The_Doctor on Friday, August 2, 2013, 13:52:05
Alan Navarro also not given a number, although few rumours are he has to be retired due to medical issues.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Honkytonk on Friday, August 2, 2013, 13:52:15
Someone's put themselves forward for that number 9 shirt. Quality work from Jan the Man on twitter:

Could do a lot worse. Digby in goal, coax Paul Bodin back, get Lingy in, Fjortoft up front and that'd balance out the average of the squad somewhat. Hoddle might even stick a boot in if he's not too busy.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: kaufman on Friday, August 2, 2013, 13:55:47
Are you thinking of the one between L.Thompson and Pritchard? if so that is Barthram.

Sorry I'm saying Lee cox is not in the picture or given a number. I'll edit!


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Riddick on Friday, August 2, 2013, 13:57:17
I assume they are waiting for football league approval and that the liverpool keeper will be 13 and that 12 & 15 will be taken by the two lads not signed, Kasim and Branco is it?



Title: Re: Re: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: sonicyouth on Friday, August 2, 2013, 14:01:17
I assume they are waiting for football league approval and that the liverpool keeper will be 13 and that 12 &amp; 15 will be taken by the two lads not signed, Kasim and Branco is it?
yarp

Disappointed that Caddis et al haven't been given a squad number, might as well use them if we're paying them


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, August 2, 2013, 14:01:24
The problem is the photo is so bloody small!

(http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/cms_images/featureteamshot247-962801_1600x900.jpg)


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Trashbat? on Friday, August 2, 2013, 14:33:02
I see Troy has said on twitter that he didn't ask for 41, wasn't consulted about it and doesn't like it!


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Friday, August 2, 2013, 14:37:11
I see Troy has said on twitter that he didn't ask for 41, wasn't consulted about it and doesn't like it!

I don't like the fact that he's taking a wage & not representing the club in a good light. I wasn't consulted about it either!


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Red Frog on Friday, August 2, 2013, 14:38:28
Can someone put names to the whole lineup please?


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Friday, August 2, 2013, 14:38:53
I see Troy has said on twitter that he didn't ask for 41, wasn't consulted about it and doesn't like it!

Well I wouldn't worry about it too much if i was him, its not as if he's going to be wearing it often unless he pops one on on his visit to the physio.  


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Friday, August 2, 2013, 14:40:46
Who is the mini-man sat between Byrne & Ward?


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, August 2, 2013, 14:43:25
Who is the mini-man sat between Byrne & Ward?
Thats Agombar isn't it?


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Trashbat? on Friday, August 2, 2013, 14:43:39
Who is the mini-man sat between Byrne & Ward?

Jed's brothers, cousins, fathers, uncles former flat mate....Mr Agombar


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: DiV on Friday, August 2, 2013, 14:54:01
I fully understand that those not given a squad number aren't going to play most likely because they have...

Appearance fees
Win bonuses
Goal bonuses
Out going transfer fee depending of playing x games for us
Automatic contract renewal

Now, I don't know the mindset of the professional footballer but is it not possible the likes of Caddis or Benson would be willing to waiver points 1,2,3 and 5 in order to play some football?

It's in the players best interest to be playing even if its just to put themselves in the shop window, plus volunteering to lose out financially is at least a bit of good positive publicity for the player.

Anyone thinking of signing them is going to wonder if their exclusion is partly attitude based, aren't they....


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: sonicyouth on Friday, August 2, 2013, 15:28:50
I don't like the fact that he's taking a wage & not representing the club in a good light. I wasn't consulted about it either!
he really doesn't look amused in that team photo either, looks as if he's got a bus to catch. it reminds me of the squad photo with Igoe and Gurney


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: pauld on Friday, August 2, 2013, 16:27:50
Who is the mini-man sat between Byrne & Ward?

Thats Agombar isn't it?
So he's a mini-bar?



I'll get me coat...


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Honkytonk on Friday, August 2, 2013, 17:47:29
he really doesn't look amused in that team photo either, looks as if he's got a bus to catch. it reminds me of the squad photo with Igoe and Gurney

He's at an angle because, as I've said in another post, the docs have been hacking away at his knees to find the good stuff. Obviously they've left one shorter than the other.

Seriously, however, getting all moany on Twitter about your squad number when you're being supported with both wages and medical bills by a club who your only real service to has been posting pictures of large-bottomed girls on twitter is the height of making a mountain out of a fucking molehill. Just be glad you're playing football and not flipping burgers you dozy cunt.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Friday, August 2, 2013, 21:33:16
Kasim is 15
Branco is 29


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: SuggWillSugg MBE on Tuesday, August 6, 2013, 14:13:16
Luke Rooney has joined Crawley on loan till January.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: tans on Tuesday, August 6, 2013, 14:21:19
Good, overrated and shit.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: FatSmurf on Wednesday, August 7, 2013, 11:28:30
Kasim is 15

Stone?!


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Wednesday, August 7, 2013, 11:30:02
Not bad for a fat un though, is he. Clearly not match fit but based on yesterday could be one hell of as player once he is.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: donkey on Wednesday, August 7, 2013, 11:30:36
Stone?!

Maybe, but quality with it...a new Scott Leitch.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, August 7, 2013, 11:31:08
Not bad for a fat un though, is he. Clearly not match fit but based on yesterday could be one hell of as player once he is.

Not having seen him play can't really comment, but from his build and ability I get the impression he could become something of a cult hero.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Benzel on Wednesday, August 7, 2013, 11:34:55
He's my favourite player already.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, August 7, 2013, 11:41:55
He's my favourite player already.

Have we ever had an Iraqi under 23 international before?


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Wednesday, August 7, 2013, 11:42:57
Not having seen him play can't really comment, but from his build and ability I get the impression he could become something of a cult hero.
If he could put out some barely coherent Tweets a la Cibboci then it would seal the deal. Its in his grasp although we don't know his favourite cheese.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Sir Pissalot on Wednesday, August 7, 2013, 11:54:04
I'll bet it's Jalmeed.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Wednesday, August 7, 2013, 12:21:21
Have we ever had an Iraqi under 23 international before?

Our very own WMD?


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Wednesday, August 7, 2013, 12:27:38
He's my favourite player already.

Mine too.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Wednesday, August 7, 2013, 12:28:17
If he could put out some barely coherent Tweets a la Cibboci then it would seal the deal. Its in his grasp although we don't know his favourite cheese.

Is he on twitter?


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Wednesday, August 7, 2013, 12:39:42
Haven't got a clue but he needs to for cult status. It would also be a good way of getting a new contract offer from Jed.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: sonicyouth on Wednesday, August 7, 2013, 15:23:55
Is he on twitter?
https://twitter.com/YaserKasim


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, August 8, 2013, 11:28:32
See that the player profile thingy on the website is now up to date, couple of bids to replace Ferry in the crazy hair status going on - think its a battle between Hall and Storey.

Also notice that for TAH they have used last years photo I assume as he flounced off before the player photo's were taken.



Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: joteddyred on Monday, August 19, 2013, 21:39:13
Has anyone heard anything about Tijane Reis' injury? I've been told he's going to be out for a few months apparently having done his cartilage?


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: kaufman on Friday, August 23, 2013, 12:43:27
Sat for a couple of minutes going through the players who have left or look likely to by the end of window.

I'll miss out the Keeper, and that's not including Navarro and Cox who look likely to be shipped out or contracts run down without playing.
            

Caddis, Flint, Devera, Mccormack

Ritchie, Miller, Ferry Roberts

Collins Williams

L.Rooney
A.Rooney
Devita
Benson
Smith


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: joteddyred on Friday, August 23, 2013, 13:01:58
You've missed Devera and Ferry.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: kaufman on Friday, August 23, 2013, 13:14:03
Pardon?
They're in there fella, think your eyes were deceiving you.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Kinky Tom on Friday, August 23, 2013, 13:21:52
Pardon?
They're in there fella, think your eyes were deceiving you.

fella?


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: kaufman on Friday, August 23, 2013, 13:28:36
fella?

That'll learn me to reply too quickly. Apologies Joteddyred if you are a female of the species.
Usernames don't always give stuff like that away.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: @mwooly63 on Thursday, August 29, 2013, 19:55:20
Frome Town FC ‏@frometownfc 1h
Town sign two Swindon Town players on months loan - welcome to Alex Ferguson (midfield) and Connor waldron (striker)


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: joteddyred on Thursday, August 29, 2013, 20:52:51
That'll learn me to reply too quickly. Apologies Joteddyred if you are a female of the species.
Usernames don't always give stuff like that away.

Only just seen this.  No need to apologise.  Some on here would say that my whinging at times make it obvious I'm female  :)

My eyes were clearly playing tricks on me.  Missed them completely.  Sorry.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: pauld on Thursday, August 29, 2013, 21:20:52
Only just seen this.  No need to apologise.  Some on here would say that my whinging at times make it obvious I'm female  :)
You mean as opposed to the stoic stiff upper lip exhibited by the blokes on here?????


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Friday, August 30, 2013, 12:36:39
According to Sam Morshead we might see a signing today.  Striker I assume.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: dphunt88 on Friday, August 30, 2013, 12:54:54
First year pro's, Connor Waldon and Alex Ferguson, have both joined Frome Town F.C. on one-month loan deals;

http://www.wiltshiretimes.co.uk/sport/10644344.CALOR_LEAGUE_PREMIER_DIVISION__Frome_bring_in_four__but_Ballinger_departs/

Their first games will be against Jed's Banbury United tomorrow.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, September 2, 2013, 20:08:20
I think it's fair to say that the squad is now settled and we've successfully managed to shift the players we wanted rid of. Only the whereabouts of Navarro and Cox leave us pondering...


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Power to people on Wednesday, September 25, 2013, 10:44:58
Navarro is injured currently speaking to specialists to decide if his career is over and Cox has been playing some of the reserve matches, probably end up out on loan for fitness and to test his injury


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, September 25, 2013, 11:41:58
First year pro's, Connor Waldon and Alex Ferguson, have both joined Frome Town F.C. on one-month loan deals;

http://www.wiltshiretimes.co.uk/sport/10644344.CALOR_LEAGUE_PREMIER_DIVISION__Frome_bring_in_four__but_Ballinger_departs/

Their first games will be against Jed's Banbury United tomorrow.
Fix! Betting scandal waiting to happen with Jed as the Mr Big :)


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, September 26, 2013, 15:52:49
Heard Power say in his interview the wage bill is down to £2.3k, I cant remember the figure that they said they was aiming for


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, September 26, 2013, 15:59:35
I wonder how much Ranger will be on. As we were paying Adam Rooney 8k a week, Ranger must be on about 30k!


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: london_red on Thursday, September 26, 2013, 16:00:33
About a grand


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Berniman on Thursday, September 26, 2013, 21:48:03
Heard Power say in his interview the wage bill is down to £2.3k, I cant remember the figure that they said they was aiming for

Really?  So that means no player is on anymore than £100 a month.  I take my hats off to the new board, they negotiate better than Daniel Leavy.

BTW the figure they were aiming for was £2.4m


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: DMR on Friday, September 27, 2013, 10:27:57
Really?  So that means no player is on anymore than £100 a month.  I take my hats off to the new board, they negotiate better than Daniel Leavy.


Just laughed a mouthful of coffee down my front. You cunt.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Power to people on Friday, September 27, 2013, 11:50:30
Really?  So that means no player is on anymore than £100 a month.  I take my hats off to the new board, they negotiate better than Daniel Leavy.

BTW the figure they were aiming for was £2.4m

Ooops wrong letter how the hell could it have been K  :-[


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Berniman on Friday, September 27, 2013, 14:18:17
Just laughed a mouthful of coffee down my front. You cunt.

You're welcome!  :D


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Saturday, October 12, 2013, 17:53:28
Has Luke Rooney played for Crawley yet?


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, October 12, 2013, 18:06:38
Has Luke Rooney played for Crawley yet?

Not since August.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: THE FLASH on Saturday, October 12, 2013, 18:44:37
Really?  So that means no player is on anymore than £100 a month.  I take my hats off to the new board, they negotiate better than Daniel Leavy.

BTW the figure they were aiming for was £2.4m

Excellent!


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Saturday, October 12, 2013, 18:51:17
Not since August.

Really doesn't seem like 2 months ago since Wolves played Crawley on the box!!

He doesn't get much game time anywhere he goes does he?!..


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Thursday, October 31, 2013, 15:57:01
See Salisbury are on tv tonight. Any chance of Storey playing?


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Friday, November 1, 2013, 00:33:44
See Salisbury are on tv tonight. Any chance of Storey playing?

Injured...I hear his loan is up after this game?


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, January 7, 2014, 12:17:19
Is Alan Navarro still with us? He's been about as much use as a one legged man in an arse kicking competition and I bet he's on a fair wedge.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: tans on Tuesday, January 7, 2014, 12:19:52
He's been about as much use as a one legged man in an arse kicking competition and I bet he's on a fair wedge.

I think thats the problem isnt it, knees gone. Poor sod.

He was alright when he played holding role in front of the defence


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Tuesday, January 7, 2014, 19:22:40
Is Alan Navarro still with us? He's been about as much use as a one legged man in an arse kicking competition and I bet he's on a fair wedge.

Power said during the phone in that he is going to retire but he in the process of talking to his insurers. 


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Power to people on Wednesday, January 8, 2014, 16:29:59
I womder if the club are able to claim any compensation themselves for a player that get's pensioned off through injury if just have to keep paying his wages until it's sorted


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: kerry red on Wednesday, January 8, 2014, 17:16:45
I presume if the club has him insured there has to be some sort of pay-off - whether the club get any is anyone's N'Guess


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Wednesday, January 8, 2014, 17:36:42
I'd imagine the insurance is paid to him so we don't have to pay the rest of his contract. Possibly back-dated to the time of the injury so we get his wages we've spent out back.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: @mwooly63 on Thursday, January 30, 2014, 16:36:24
Alex Pritchard banned for two matches after picking up 10 bookings

And according to Sam ,Reis and TAH came thru Brum closed doors game but need another development game


Title: Re:
Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, January 30, 2014, 18:49:44
Did Troy remember which team he plays for?


Title: Re:
Post by: Honkytonk on Thursday, January 30, 2014, 19:03:56
Did Troy remember which team he plays for?

"It's the one in red isn't it? Swimble Town or something?"

Although if he plays an away game he'll be used to the blue kit at least from Carlisle.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: JoeMezz on Saturday, March 15, 2014, 20:36:46
Am I the only one who thinks that Storey isn't actually that good?


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Saturday, March 15, 2014, 20:40:43
I'd like to see him given a run of 5-6 games to see what he's made of. I think there's a decent player there. A lot of our fans have written him off, I hope they are wrong.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: donkey on Sunday, March 16, 2014, 00:23:03
Am I the only one who thinks that Storey isn't actually that good?

Apparently not. There seem to be quite a few who don't rate him. I think he's got a good chance to do well for us. Against Coventry he looked a man not a boy. I'd like to see him given a good run in the side.


Title: Re: Re: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Only Me on Sunday, March 16, 2014, 01:23:19
Am I the only one who thinks that Storey isn't actually that good?
No, but I think he can be a very good player, given the chance.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Batch on Sunday, March 16, 2014, 08:25:50
I'd just like to see him given a fair crack of the whip,  rather than half a game here and there.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Posh Red on Sunday, March 16, 2014, 14:23:24
He needs to play alongside a centre forward to be effective.

The problem is, like a lot of team today we like to play with one up front & five in midfield from the start of games. Only going to two upfront if you are chasing a game.

So the question is, do you change the system to accommodate a young player to see if he has what it takes?


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Sunday, March 16, 2014, 14:29:00
Smith and storey at home worth a go?


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Posh Red on Sunday, March 16, 2014, 14:32:55
Smith and storey at home worth a go?

I would be happy for us to play with two up front, but that's not how the manager/owner want us to play.

It may leave us a bit more exposed having a man less in midfield (especially with the non tackling Harley), but maybe if the back four from yesterday can make us a bit more solid at the back we will think it's worth the gamble. 


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Sunday, March 16, 2014, 14:35:32
I would be happy for us to play with two up front, but that's not how the manager/owner want us to play.

It may leave us a bit more exposed having a man less in midfield (especially with the non tackling Harley), but maybe if the back four from yesterday can make us a bit more solid at the back we will think it's worth the gamble. 

Agreed. However it was quite frustrating yesterday when we would pass the ball about and 20 passes later city would have a goal kick whereas they would have 3 good passes and get a corner, seemed counter productive.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, March 16, 2014, 15:08:47
Agreed. However it was quite frustrating yesterday when we would pass the ball about and 20 passes later city would have a goal kick whereas they would have 3 good passes and get a corner, seemed counter productive.
Pass for product not for vanity.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Posh Red on Sunday, March 16, 2014, 15:12:19
Agreed. However it was quite frustrating yesterday when we would pass the ball about and 20 passes later city would have a goal kick whereas they would have 3 good passes and get a corner, seemed counter productive.

It helps having pace up front, when we hit a long pass the ball is quickly lost and just comes straight back.

The problem with our passing is that it is just too slow, meaning the opposition have time to adjust to it & so we end up going nowhere. A lot of this is related to the fact that we don't have enough movement from most of our forward players.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Batch on Sunday, March 16, 2014, 18:14:49
It helps having pace up front, when we hit a long pass the ball is quickly lost and just comes straight back.

The problem with our passing is that it is just too slow, meaning the opposition have time to adjust to it & so we end up going nowhere. A lot of this is related to the fact that we don't have enough movement from most of   our forward player   s  .

Corrected for you.

The confused Shrewsbury/Wolves fan from work that came to the Wolves game said exactly the same thing about our central midfield - too slow/methodical in the pass and nearly always playing it down the middle, meaning an organised team like Wolves could easily regroup and get the ball back


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Monday, March 17, 2014, 17:05:44
Anyone know if Williams is definitely out of contract at the end of the season or if he's got another year to run? I'm sure somebody on here mentioned that Cooper said he has another year to run during the fans phone in but the Adver had him down as one of the out of contract players on their list sometime last week.
   Also what's the latest with Tijane? Doesn't seem to have been named amongst the subs for the last few games!! I'm guessing that's down to a relapse of his injury.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Monday, March 17, 2014, 17:15:19
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18490029

Beeb had him down as being on a 2 year deal.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, March 17, 2014, 18:23:45
Anyone know if Williams is definitely out of contract at the end of the season or if he's got another year to run? I'm sure somebody on here mentioned that Cooper said he has another year to run during the fans phone in but the Adver had him down as one of the out of contract players on their list sometime last week.
Power stated before the game a couple of weeks ago that Williams is one of the big earners at the club and is out of contract at the end of the season.

The same time as he said the club are trying to extend Troys contract here, he said that (Troy playing that day) will put to rest the doubt about us wanting to pay Exeter any more money in transfer/appearance fees......if you are on of the fans that believes what our esteemed leader says to the press, if you are not one of those fans then Williams probably has another year left on his contract and Troy won't play any more games because we cannot afford the extra £20k appearance fee......


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Monday, March 17, 2014, 18:29:25
Power stated before the game a couple of weeks ago that Williams is one of the big earners at the club and is out of contract at the end of the season.

The same time as he said the club are trying to extend Troys contract here, he said that (Troy playing that day) will put to rest the doubt about us wanting to pay Exeter any more money in transfer/appearance fees......if you are on of the fans that believes what our esteemed leader says to the press, if you are not one of those fans then Williams probably has another year left on his contract and Troy won't play any more games because we cannot afford the extra £20k appearance fee......
There's potentially another 60k going Exeter's way in terms of appearance money if Troy reaches the 60 game mark! Personally I'd be doing everything we can to hold onto him as I think he's got the ability to be a top player for us. However it all comes down to his long term fitness as the knee is obviously still proving to be a major problem given that he can't do 2 games in a week. I always thought Williams was out of contract come the seasons end and if that is the case then he's as good as gone imo. 


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, March 17, 2014, 18:32:28
With good injury management hopefully we can get Troy back to fitness, its a big ask though as it was bad injury.

If he can get back to fitness then he may become the player I always though (hoped) he was going to be for us.

I remember the first time I saw him, he stood out in a pre season game vs Weston.

Henville is a man mountain and can dribble and run with the ball, good in the tackle and good distribution...made only 1 slight mistake which cost us a corner otherwise was excellent.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Empathy Sloth on Monday, March 17, 2014, 20:09:51
I really rate him too, shame about him only being able to play one game a week.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, March 18, 2014, 07:34:32
Troy is class, hope he can get fit and stay fit. He's still only 25 so time is on his side.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, March 18, 2014, 09:44:08
Troy is a bit of a cult hero and his recent performances coming back after a bad injury have been very impressive (including a laugh out loud booking against Oldham).

I hope JMAC and Troy stay but I suspect we are going to have to offer them reduced terms which unfortunately might see them in non-Town colours next season.

Its a shame we can't use PDC's top class injury specialists as it seems both Troy and JMac have had backstreet operations from Bob in Eldene for a couple of hundred quid.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, March 18, 2014, 19:01:04
Troy is a bit of a cult hero and his recent performances coming back after a bad injury have been very impressive (including a laugh out loud booking against Oldham).

I hope JMAC and Troy stay but I suspect we are going to have to offer them reduced terms which unfortunately might see them in non-Town colours next season.

Its a shame we can't use PDC's top class injury specialists as it seems both Troy and JMac have had backstreet operations from Bob in Eldene for a couple of hundred quid.
Wasn't the issue that PDC's 'top class injury specialist' wasn't so 'top class' after all?


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, March 18, 2014, 20:15:16
Wasn't the issue that PDC's 'top class injury specialist' wasn't so 'top class' after all?
I assumed Bob was being sarcy tbh


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, April 9, 2014, 11:39:29
Seemingly I can't wait until the seasons end to raise these questions but this time next month it'll be all over for another campaign.

Looking at whos's contract is expiring, I'm quite reassured by who are contracted beyond the summer.

Out of Contract: Summer 2014

James McEveley
Troy Archibald-Henville
Nile Ranger (we have that option)

Alex Smith
Raphael Rossi Branco
Jack Barthram
Dany N'Guessan

Lee Cox
Andy Williams
Paul Benson
Alan Navarro

Connor Waldon
Leigh Bedwell
Mark Francis
Alex Ferguson
Aaron Oakley
Kayden Jackson

Harry Agombar

I expect we'll do all we can to keep Ranger on the straight and narrow. McEveley will be offered reduced terms.

Alex Smith will probably be offered a new contract. Not sure about Branco and Barthram.

I think pretty much everyone else will go.

Thoughts please TEFers.

(I've probably missed someone out. Congratulations if you point that out)


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Wednesday, April 9, 2014, 11:42:54
Seemingly I can't wait until the seasons end to raise these questions but this time next month it'll be all over for another campaign.

Looking at whos's contract is expiring, I'm quite reassured by who are contracted beyond the summer.

Out of Contract: Summer 2014

Darren Ward
James McEveley
Troy Archibald-Henville
Nile Ranger (we have that option)

Alex Smith
Raphael Rossi Branco
Jack Barthram
Dany N'Guessan

Lee Cox
Andy Williams
Paul Benson
Alan Navarro

Connor Waldon
Leigh Bedwell
Mark Francis
Alex Ferguson
Aaron Oakley
Kayden Jackson

Harry Agombar

I expect we'll do all we can to keep Ranger on the straight and narrow. McEveley will be offered reduced terms.

Alex Smith will probably be offered a new contract. Not sure about Branco and Barthram.

I think pretty much everyone else will go.

Thoughts please TEFers.

(I've probably missed someone out. Congratulations if you point that out)

Didn't Ward sign a new contract during the season to reduce his wage but extend the term?


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, April 9, 2014, 11:45:19
Didn't Ward sign a new contract during the season to reduce his wage but extend the term?

He did indeed. A correction straight off the bat, well done.

Do you have an opinion on who we should keep?


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, April 9, 2014, 11:46:38
Ward is under contract until the end of the 2015 season.

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/10621583.Ward_signs_new_Town_deal/

EDIT: beaten to it :)


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: kerry red on Wednesday, April 9, 2014, 11:49:47
Barthram for sure. Can't understand why he's not had more game time.

Lee Cox and Alex Smith, too.

Be nice to keep JMac, Troy and Ranger


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, April 9, 2014, 11:54:13
Seemingly I can't wait until the seasons end to raise these questions but this time next month it'll be all over for another campaign.

Looking at whos's contract is expiring, I'm quite reassured by who are contracted beyond the summer.

Out of Contract: Summer 2014

James McEveley
Troy Archibald-Henville
Nile Ranger (we have that option)

Alex Smith
Raphael Rossi Branco
Jack Barthram
Dany N'Guessan

Lee Cox
Andy Williams
Paul Benson
Alan Navarro

Connor Waldon
Leigh Bedwell
Mark Francis
Alex Ferguson
Aaron Oakley
Kayden Jackson

Harry Agombar

I expect we'll do all we can to keep Ranger on the straight and narrow. McEveley will be offered reduced terms.

Alex Smith will probably be offered a new contract. Not sure about Branco and Barthram.

I think pretty much everyone else will go.

Thoughts please TEFers.

(I've probably missed someone out. Congratulations if you point that out)

If possible I would keep -

JMac
Troy
Ranger
Smith
Barthram
Lee Cox

And the best 1 or 2 of the youngsters (can't really judge as haven't seen them)

Realistically I think only Alex Smith, Barthram, Ranger, Cox and some youngsters will be retained. Would maybe offer Ward a new player/coach contract with the coaching side given greater precedence.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, April 9, 2014, 11:55:51
I think we will offer reduced terms to Jay Mac, Troy and probably Cox.

Alex Smith, Barthram and Branco will all get offered 1 year extensions I think.

Ranger will be offered a new deal.

Out of the youngsters I am not sure but with Ferguson, Waldron and Francis being on the bench this season then I think they will probably all get new deals.

The rest I don't think will be with us next season. N'Guessan, Williams, Benson, Navarro, Bedwell, Oakley, Jackson & Agombar will all be freed.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, April 9, 2014, 11:57:40
I've not seen anything of Lee Cox so can't comment on his ability bit he's a Black era signing and surely on too much to be a potential fringe player?



Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, April 9, 2014, 11:59:14
I think we will offer reduced terms to Jay Mac, Troy and probably Cox.

Alex Smith, Barthram and Branco will all get offered 1 year extensions I think.

Ranger will be offered a new deal.

Out of the youngsters I am not sure but with Ferguson, Waldron and Francis being on the bench this season then I think they will probably all get new deals.

The rest I don't think will be with us next season. N'Guessan, Williams, Benson, Navarro, Bedwell, Oakley, Jackson & Agombar will all be freed.


If be very surprised if Ferguson and Francis are here next season.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: kerry red on Wednesday, April 9, 2014, 12:00:16
From the last couple of games Cox has played he should be more than a fringe player.

If Cooper doesn't think he will become a regular starter, I suppose he'll go


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: Benzel on Wednesday, April 9, 2014, 12:08:20
I hope we keep Cox. I really think him and Kasim could make a great pairing. A couple of tough tackling, ball winning CMs.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: Tails on Wednesday, April 9, 2014, 12:09:26
Seemingly I can't wait until the seasons end to raise these questions but this time next month it'll be all over for another campaign.

Looking at whos's contract is expiring, I'm quite reassured by who are contracted beyond the summer.

Out of Contract: Summer 2014

James McEveley
Troy Archibald-Henville
Nile Ranger (we have that option)

Alex Smith
Raphael Rossi Branco
Jack Barthram
Dany N'Guessan

Lee Cox
Andy Williams
Paul Benson
Alan Navarro

Connor Waldon
Leigh Bedwell
Mark Francis
Alex Ferguson
Aaron Oakley
Kayden Jackson

Harry Agombar

Out of those I expect,

Agombar
Oakley
Ferguson
Francis
Navarro
Benson (already signed a deal for Luton if you believe their fans)
Williams
N'guessan
Troy

To not be offered new deals. Troy is a tricky one, but that's going on Coopers apparent comments to members of the Town End recently. I hope we figure out a way to keep him in. I didn't add Barthram to that list purely because I'd like to see him stay, he's impressed me when he's come in and deserves a fair crack. Cox seems happy to be a part of things here as well, and he's done well recently so I think he'll come back into the mix.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Wednesday, April 9, 2014, 12:22:48
The thing with Troy is, we can't afford (and shouldn't) offer him the same wages again.

However few L1 clubs will, and out of those than can, who will honestly fancy forking out huge sums given his rare appearances over the last two years.

It may be the best option for both him and us, for him to extend for another year on reduced terms. He'll be 26 then, perfect time to get a decent move if he's proved he can still perform for a whole
season.



Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Wednesday, April 9, 2014, 12:23:49
I thought Lee Power said during the fans phone in that Williams had another year to go? I hope he was mistaken.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, April 9, 2014, 12:25:42
If Archibald-Henville really can't play two games in a week or isn't able to train everyday then he's not going to get loads of offers this summer. Well I assume he wouldn't anyway..


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, April 9, 2014, 12:29:35
If Archibald-Henville really can't play two games in a week or isn't able to train everyday then he's not going to get loads of offers this summer. Well I assume he wouldn't anyway..
Shitty willl sign him, they like signing our defenders. ;)


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, April 9, 2014, 12:35:53
Shitty willl sign him, they like signing our defenders. ;)

Jokes aside, I'm always weary of Bristol City and their budget.

Obviously, no issues if it turns out like Flint... and Heywood.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, April 9, 2014, 12:36:17
I thought Lee Power said during the fans phone in that Williams had another year to go? I hope he was mistaken.
Williams signed a 2 year contract when PdC was in charge on the 28th June 2012.

http://www.swindonweb.com/?m=133&s=1825&ss=1913&c=11270&t=Paolo%27s+A-Team


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, April 9, 2014, 12:37:23
Jokes aside, I'm always weary of Bristol City and their budget.
The thing is, Shitty have a budget big enough (currently) to encompass a player like Troy who can only play a certain amount of games.


Title: Re: Re: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: herthab on Wednesday, April 9, 2014, 12:51:45
Jokes aside, I'm always weary of Bristol City and their budget.

Obviously, no issues if it turns out like Flint... and Heywood.
Yeah, they bore me as well....


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Wednesday, April 9, 2014, 12:55:00
If be very surprised if Ferguson and Francis are here next season.

As much as I agree with your comment, if you think back to Nathan Thompson, it took him 2-3 years of being a pro before he came good. Now he is one of the first names on the team sheet. Look at his stats, he hardly featured the first 4 season he was a pro.

http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/Person.asp?PersonID=THOMPSON


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Wednesday, April 9, 2014, 12:57:42
As much as I agree with your comment, if you think back to Nathan Thompson, it took him 2-3 years of being a pro before he came good. Now he is one of the first names on the team sheet. Look at his stats, he hardly featured the first 4 season he was a pro.

http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/Person.asp?PersonID=THOMPSON

If they have any potential at all in Coopers/ Powers eyes I suspect they'll be kept, they won't be on much at all.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Wednesday, April 9, 2014, 13:01:48
If they have any potential at all in Coopers/ Powers eyes I suspect they'll be kept, they won't be on much at all.

True, although from what I hear from a lad at work whos quite chummy with one of the first year pro's, they get given allowances for stupid things like £250 p/w for living at home rather than in a hotel etc.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: sonicyouth on Wednesday, April 9, 2014, 13:13:38
If Troy can't play and train properly, could he retire and take the insurance money?

I have a vague recollection of Roberts doing this


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, April 9, 2014, 14:33:35
 We've been told there will be 20 of our players next season, so it should be relatively easy to work out who that will be...

 Something like...

Branco
Belford
Foderingham (unless sold)
Thompson twins
Ward
Byrne
Kasim
Gladwin
Luongo
Harley
The Smiths
Barker
Ranger (usual provisos applying)
Storey
Barttram

That leaves wriggle room for 3 others.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, April 9, 2014, 14:50:52
Are we planning for a squad of 20 plus a similar intake of loanees?


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, April 9, 2014, 14:54:03
Are we planning for a squad of 20 plus a similar intake of loanees?

What 20 loanees?  :)

You can't run a squad in this day and age on only 20 players, so you'd imagine it will be supplemented by about 3/4 loanees.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, April 9, 2014, 15:00:39
What 20 loanees?  :)

You can't run a squad in this day and age on only 20 players, so you'd imagine it will be supplemented by about 3/4 loanees.

Poorly/incorrectly worded. Deserved.

:)


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: nigel grays a postie on Wednesday, April 9, 2014, 15:13:31
Barthram has looked pretty ok whenever I've seen him but Cooper doesn't exactly seem a big fan and its hard to see him shifting Nathan Thompson from the first team other than for injury or suspension. In which case Cooper would most likely replace him with Nathan Byrne. If McEveley goes elsewhere then maybe Byrne would compete with Smith (or god forbid Reckord) for left back slot and Barthram would have a shot at stepping in at right back but I think Cooper is more likely to extend Branco who gives options as right back, 3rd man in a back 3, or 2nd centre back.

Ferguson, Francis and Oakley don't really seem to have challenged for place in first team. Have they actually made the bench this season? So expect them all to be off to Chippenham or Supermarine. Waldon may get another year but probably needs to make reasonable impact when Cooper gives him a chance as he kind of did against Sheff Utd. But in view of desire for quality not quantity I think he's got quite a lot to do to earn another year.

Would imagine Jay, Troy and Cox might get hugely reduced offers but acceptance entirely dependent on what else is on table for them elsewhere
















Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: Honkytonk on Wednesday, April 9, 2014, 15:57:12
Are we planning for a squad of 20 plus a similar intake of loanees?

I'd imagine that's the plan. 20 full-time squad players plus 4/5 loanees. I'd be happy if the core of  the squad looks like this next year (Similar to Reg):

Fods
Belford
Thompson 1, the Greater
Thompson 2, the Younger
New Centre Back
Troy/Ward (either, I don't expect both. We have to keep Ward really if we get rid of Troy, but I would prefer Troy)
Alex Smith
Byrne
Kasim
Gladwin
Luongo
Harley (Not a huge fan, but eh, he'll probably stay and he might improve)
Michael Smith
Nile Ranger (as Reg said, usual provisos)
Storey

That's 16. If possible it'd be good if we keep:
Cox - he's a good player who's had a fair bit work against him in the past few years.
Branco - (he's had a stuttery season, but I do think he's one who's only going to improve.
Jay Mac - not going to lie, he's finally proved me wrong this season, want him to stay.

So that makes 19, which is deliberate as in m wildest dreams I see us signing a young striker who turns into the next Charlie Austin.

As for loans, it'd be good to have Pritchard back, although I do think he'll go to a Championship side next season. Mason is someone likely to come back I think, possibly as a permanent signing. Stephens has done a brilliant job, so it'd be great to have him for a season. Would be nice to have a winger or two on loan, there are some decent ones floating about Premiership youth/development sides. As a complete pipedream, Nick Powell would be a great player to have- he's not getting a look in at Man U and was easily one of the best players in the lower leagues before he went up North.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Wednesday, April 9, 2014, 17:24:45
Nick Powell would be a great player to have- he's not getting a look in at Man U and was easily one of the best players in the lower leagues before he went up North.
One of the best players in the Championship currently and will probably get a Premier League loan next season.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, April 9, 2014, 17:37:54
One of the best players in the Championship currently and will probably get a Premier League loan next season.
Almost definately. He has been Wigans best performer this season and is in line for player of the season.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: Honkytonk on Wednesday, April 9, 2014, 19:33:56
Almost definately. He has been Wigans best performer this season and is in line for player of the season.

Shit me, utterly missed that he was on loan at Wigan this season.

Whoosh.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: RedRag on Wednesday, April 9, 2014, 21:57:27
Nick Powell would be a great player to have- he's not getting a look in at Man U and was easily one of the best players in the lower leagues before he went up North.
Agreed, he was the best player on the park when we opened with the 3-0 home win v Crew Alex under PDC.

But in what era would the twenty mile northerly trip from Crewe to Manchester have constituted going "oop Norf"


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: Honkytonk on Wednesday, April 9, 2014, 23:04:59
... it's further North than Crewe, therefore is up North in comparison.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, April 10, 2014, 07:22:49
... it's further North than Crewe, therefore is up North in comparison.
Going up in the world, literally.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, April 17, 2014, 09:31:09
Josue Antonio becomes our latest 'work experience' Samsung winner.

Good name though.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: kerry red on Thursday, April 17, 2014, 09:34:06
I suppose the 'sue' part is quite apt for us.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, April 17, 2014, 09:38:48
Josue Antonio becomes our latest 'work experience' Samsung winner.

Good name though.
I see Kayden Jackson scored for Oxford City again Tuesday, not sure how many goals he has scored this term for Supermarine and Pox City but it must be close to 30.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, April 17, 2014, 09:40:32
Worth giving him a go last couple of games this season JJ?


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, April 17, 2014, 09:48:46
Worth giving him a go last couple of games this season JJ?
Obviously the coaching staff know what sort of a player he is but he does seem to be scoring regularly at Oxford as well as the spell at Supermarine where he bagged 12 goals in 14 games.

Looks like it could be a slight attitude problem with the amount of effort he puts in if this is anything to go by....

http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/sport/10927182.FOOTBALL__Jackson_told_to_work_hard_or_lose_place/

I personally can't see him being a lot worse than Michael Smith, no offence to the lad Smith but he doesn't look like a footballer with any confidence.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: Tails on Thursday, April 17, 2014, 09:52:06
That's probably because the fans keep hounding him.

Smith is OK. His first touch is horrendous but he's chipped in with a few 'strikers' goals and he's also played some lovely through balls (ie, Storeys goal v Sheff Utd)

He's a work in progress though. He puts a shift in, he will come good. Unless the fans shatter his confidence completely.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: Honkytonk on Thursday, April 17, 2014, 09:54:08
That's probably because the fans keep hounding him.

Smith is OK. His first touch is horrendous but he's chipped in with a few 'strikers' goals and he's also played some lovely through balls (ie, Storeys goal v Sheff Utd)

He's a work in progress though. He puts a shift in, he will come good. Unless the fans shatter his confidence completely.

As if fans could completely shatter a striker's confidence!

'cough' Andy Williams 'cough'


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, April 17, 2014, 09:57:00
Just had a quick check and no he hasn't got anywhere near 30, he scored 12 for Supermarine and 8 for Pox City so he has scored 20 this season.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: kerry red on Thursday, April 17, 2014, 10:06:16
I think Cooper's got a cheek to blame the fans for getting on Smith's back.

After every game he bangs on about the forwards (i.e Smith) not retaining the ball well enough.

Then coming out with the comment that if we had Madine up front we would have beaten Carlisle.

Seems like its him who's more likely to be denting his confidence.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: Tails on Thursday, April 17, 2014, 10:31:21
Probably not constructive, but we dont see what happens behind the scenes + he starts every game so he obviously has some faith in him.

Booing him and cheering him when he gets subbed probably hits him harder.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, April 17, 2014, 11:15:01
Well he should try not to be so fucking shit then. Not saying I boo because I never boo my own team, but he is Fola Onion Bhaji bad and if he can't accept a bit of stick from the crowd then he probably won't make it as a footballer.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, April 17, 2014, 11:23:04
To be fair Keith Scott couldn't trap a bag of cement but I don't remember the fans ever getting on his back so bad!


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, April 17, 2014, 11:28:00
To be fair Keith Scott couldn't trap a bag of cement but I don't remember the fans ever getting on his back so bad!

People didn't have internet and social networks.

The only opinions I heard about Swindon Town back then was my old mans and those irrational terrace comments.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: Saxondale on Thursday, April 17, 2014, 13:23:09
This thread should be closed as its irrelevant what with Jed coming back and reinventing the football world in the same way he did double glazing.  In fact all threads should be closed pending the resurrection of the Jed.



Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, April 17, 2014, 13:23:51
even the boobs thread?


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: Saxondale on Thursday, April 17, 2014, 13:27:03
Jed is going to reinvent tits. 


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: kerry red on Thursday, April 17, 2014, 13:28:27
He's reinventing himself?


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Thursday, April 17, 2014, 20:51:58
Snith is shite but he chips in with a few. He is one of them annoying players to watch.


Title: Re: Re: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: Only Me on Friday, April 18, 2014, 07:21:07
Snith is shite but he chips in with a few. He is one of them annoying players to watch.
True, but what is more annoying is town fans booing him / getting on his back throughout the match


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, April 23, 2014, 18:29:39
So did anyone else hear the quote from Coopers dad which was "I think, next year they will have the lowest budget in the league".

Just putting it out there. Maybe that's the reality of self sufficiency. Or incorrect. Who knows.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, April 23, 2014, 18:42:21
So did anyone else hear the quote from Coopers dad which was "I think, next year they will have the lowest budget in the league".

Just putting it out there. Maybe that's the reality of self sufficiency. Or incorrect. Who knows.

Sounds about right at 1.5 mill. Similar to the sort of budget that the Scum have.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, April 23, 2014, 18:44:38
1.5 mil is nowhere near the lowest. Not even close, probably better than average. I'm quite sure that the likes of Franchise will be operating on something similar.

I have looked into it.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, April 23, 2014, 18:46:16
Sounds about right at 1.5 mill. Similar to the sort of budget that the Scum have.

And they are racking up huge debts.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, April 23, 2014, 20:23:55
I have had a dig around for some up-to-date figures but it's not easy to find anything meaningful. I will downgrade my opinion from 'better than average' to 'average' though.

It can all be somewhat ambiguous because when clubs mention their wage bill, it often includes their non-footballing staff plus coaches. I found one for Shrewsbury that included over 100 staff members, they threw stewards and what-not into the pot as well

I understand it from a Lee Power interview that the 1.5m stated is for playing staff, which I take to mean players' salaries plus coaches and non-footballing staff on top.

One thing that I will say is that considering we are one of the better supported clubs in the league, and with higher prices than most, if we do have the lowest budget then people* should be asking why......

*'people' meaning the trust.

It's not all about the budget though. Yeovil went up last season on 800k and when we went down under Wilson we had a budget of over 4M.



Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: Paolo69 on Wednesday, April 23, 2014, 20:32:45
£1.5m probably won't be too far off what we paying the playing staff who actually played this season I suspect. Get Navarro, Williams, Benno and Troy's current contract off the books and that should save a pretty hefty sum I would suspect.

This is obviously a total (but I like to think educated by common sense) guess.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: leftside on Wednesday, April 23, 2014, 20:38:34

One thing that I will say is that considering we are one of the better supported clubs in the league, and with higher prices than most, if we do have the lowest budget then people* should be asking why......

*'people' meaning the trust.

My guess is that achieving a level of 'sustainability' or 'self-sufficiency' in a relatively short timeframe requires drastic measures, combining a massive reduction in budget AND high ticket prices. It also seems to be a model that won't bank on generating significant regular income through transfer fees. We've been fortunate that a team like the Slave Traders were willing to part with lots of cash for Flint, and Wes may earn the club an ok wedge if he goes in the summer, but a policy of using the maximum number of long-term loans reduces the likelihood of having saleable assets on show.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, April 23, 2014, 20:47:52
My guess is that achieving a level of 'sustainability' or 'self-sufficiency' in a relatively short timeframe requires drastic measures, combining a massive reduction in budget AND high ticket prices. It also seems to be a model that won't bank on generating significant regular income through transfer fees. We've been fortunate that a team like the Slave Traders were willing to part with lots of cash for Flint, and Wes may earn the club an ok wedge if he goes in the summer, but a policy of using the maximum number of long-term loans reduces the likelihood of having saleable assets on show.

We've had high ticket prices for some time now.

And let's not forget that we have paid money for Luongo, M Smith, Byrne and a couple of others this season which is more than most in the league are able to do. Some may argue whether or not they represent good investment but it can't be said that the Power isn't willing to spend a bit. Not a lot, granted, but a bit at least.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: leftside on Wednesday, April 23, 2014, 20:57:58
We've had high ticket prices for some time now.

And let's not forget that we have paid money for Luongo, M Smith, Byrne and a couple of others this season which is more than most in the league are able to do. Some may argue whether or not they represent good investment but it can't be said that the Power isn't willing to spend a bit. Not a lot, granted, but a bit at least.

Agreed. It will be interesting to see if any significant transfer fees are paid out this summer. I suppose it is likely to depend on whether transfer fees come in, and whether the ownership stuff is sorted out and we're not left with a leech running things.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: @mwooly63 on Friday, April 25, 2014, 13:27:29
SECOND-YEAR Scholars Curtis Da Costa and Matty Jones will be offered professional contracts at Swindon Town.
Read more at http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/article/ytscontractsdecided-1510211.aspx#CkIsxGqfQhy3aZbr.99

Expect them to be out on loan all season as this years have mostly been


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Friday, April 25, 2014, 14:04:15
Do we know anything about these kids? Where are they from?


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: TheMajorSTFC on Friday, April 25, 2014, 14:08:46
I thought from reading the adver this morning contracts etc weren't going to be sorted out until the battle of the boardroom was sorted?!  :hmmm:


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: @mwooly63 on Friday, April 25, 2014, 14:10:15
Do we know anything about these kids? Where are they from?

Isnt Mat Jones the son of Tom Jones, former town legend
Have no idea on de Costa

Seems club statement may have been how other YTS found out they werent being kept

Quote
Salvyn Kisitu ‏@Kisitu_6  15m
Wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy to be treated so unprofessionally like that but believe everything happens for a reason

EDIT

According to FLIC wiltshire

Quote
Both players are defenders, with Jones, known for his prowess at dead ball situations, a left back whilst Da Costa is a centre back.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Friday, April 25, 2014, 14:50:15
Nice, cheers wooly


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: Batch on Sunday, April 27, 2014, 18:39:40
Heard from someone who would know that FGRs player wage budget is £1.2M per season, though that was described as 'huge' and bigger than Cheltenhams.

Blimey, the non-league is expensive innit.


Title: Re: The Squad (2013/14) *Coming Soon: 2014/15*
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, April 27, 2014, 18:41:17
They've got Lee Hughes and Luke Rodgers so if Nile's agent is reading this...


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, April 28, 2014, 07:14:32
THE SQUAD

GOALKEEPERS

1. Wes Foderingham (2015)
25. Tyrell Belford (2015)
30. Leigh Bedwell (2014)

DEFENDERS

2. Nathan Thompson (2015)
14. Jay McEveley (2014)
22. Darren Ward (2015)
26. Aaron Oakley (2014)
29. Raphael Rossi Branco (2014)
36. Matty Jones (2015 - Pending)
41. Troy Archibald-Henville (2014)
--. Curtis Da Costa (2015 - Pending)

DEFENDERS/MIDFIELDERS

3. Nathan Byrne (2015)
23. Jack Barthram (2014)
21. Alex Smith (2014)
39. Ben Gladwin (2015)
--. Antonio Josue (2015 - Samsung)

MIDFIELDERS

4. Massimo Luongo (2016)
6. Tijane Freitas Reis (2015)
7. Ryan Harley (2015)
15. Yaser Kasim (2016)
18. Alex Ferguson (2014)
19. Louis Thompson (2015)
24. Lee Cox (2014)
27. Harry Agombar (2014)
32. Alan Navarro (2014)

MIDFIELDERS/FORWARDS

10. Andy Williams (2014)
12. Dany N'Guessan (2014)
16. Mark Francis (2014)
35. Kayden Jackson (2014 - Samsung)

FORWARDS

9. Nile Ranger (2014)
20. Miles Storey (2015)
17. Connor Waldon (2014)
28. Michael Smith (2016)
31. Paul Benson (2014)
33. George Barker (2015)

I still don't envisage many of the out-of-contract players staying here beyond the Summer but I'm normally wrong.

Leigh Bedwell - Gone, even if Foderingham leaves.

Jay McEveley - I'd like to see him stay on reduced terms. The cynic in me thinks it's funny how your form can be enhanced when your contract is coming to an end.

Aaron Oakley - I'm told by my Chippenham Town supporting dad and brother that his loan spell wasn't that great. I think he had potential, from what was coming out of the club, but he'll probably be released.

Raphael Branco - Probably the most likely to get offered terms. Cooper has used him often enough.

Troy Archibald-Henville - I think he's gone. A crock who still managed to get sent-off twice in 15 games this season.

Jack Barthram - I'd give him a year. I'm surprised he hasn't been used more often, perhaps Cooper doesn't rate him.

Alex Smith - I think he might get an offer. Injuries being the main concern.

Alex Ferguson - Seemingly hasn't got close to the set-up, cheerio.

Lee Cox - I'm very interested to see what happens. I still think he'll go but might get reduced terms.

Alan Navarro - Finished.

Harry Agombar - Cheerio. Imagine if he got a new deal?

Andy Williams - Cheerio

Dany N'Guessan - Cheerio. Looked useful at the start, some still want him in the side... (Source: Twitter)

Mark Francis - Seemingly hasn't got close to the set-up, cheerio.

Kayden Jackson - Seemingly hasn't got close to the set-up, cheerio.

Nile Ranger - Cheerio.

Connor Waldon - Could well get a deal, the new first years are defenders so he might benefit from this.

Paul Benson - Shame that whatever happened, happened. Cheerio.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: tans on Monday, April 28, 2014, 07:24:33
Hopefully they will pay Reis off as well. Crap.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, April 28, 2014, 07:25:31
Hopefully they will pay Reis off as well. Crap.

Almost certainly.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: DiV on Monday, April 28, 2014, 07:44:49
I don't think anyone out of contract will be here next season.

We look alright between the sticks, not much else...


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, April 28, 2014, 07:48:45
I don't think anyone out of contract will be here next season.

We look alright between the sticks, not much else...
You don't rate Thompson & Thompson, Luongo and Kasim?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Talk Talk on Monday, April 28, 2014, 08:02:01
What to do about Darren Ward..?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Monday, April 28, 2014, 08:07:25
Offer him reduced terms again as player/coach


Title: Re: Re: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: otanswell on Monday, April 28, 2014, 08:16:02
Offer him reduced terms again as coach

Corrected for you Johnny boy


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Talk Talk on Monday, April 28, 2014, 08:37:00
Offer him reduced terms again as coach driver

Corrected for you, OT.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Samdy Gray on Monday, April 28, 2014, 08:37:34
It would be nice to have some stability in the team, but I suppose that's just not how football works any longer.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, April 28, 2014, 08:40:30
It would be nice to have some stability in the team, but I suppose that's just not how football works any longer.

It's that ruddy Jean-Marc Bosman's fault...


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Monday, April 28, 2014, 09:07:58
Hasn't Ben Gladwin got another year to go too?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, April 28, 2014, 09:24:36
I see an N'Guessan scored for Stevenage on Saturday  :hmmm:


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: ronnie21 on Monday, April 28, 2014, 09:27:48
Hasn't Ben Gladwin got another year to go too?
yes


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, April 28, 2014, 09:40:32
Offer him reduced terms again as player/coach

100% this.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: @mwooly63 on Monday, April 28, 2014, 11:07:19
100% this.

I thought that was what we did last season  :hmmm:
With this year Ward taking on more of the coaching role
Certainly hope he isnt playing bar emergencies  :no:
Defence has looked 100% better since Stephens replaced him


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, April 28, 2014, 11:15:39
First team next season could be -

GK. Fods
LB. Alex Smith
CB. Stephens (Loan)
CB. Branco
RB. N.Thompson
LM. Reis
CM. Luongo
CM. Kasim
RM. Byrne/Barthram
ST. Smith
ST. Storey

Bench
Belford
Harley
Gladwin
L.Thompson
Barker







Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, April 28, 2014, 11:17:14
First team next season could be -

GK. Fods
LB. Alex Smith
CB. Stephens (Loan)
CB. Branco
RB. N.Thompson
LM. Reis/Byrne
CM. Luongo
CM. Kasim
ST. Smith
ST. Storey

Bench
Belford
Harley
Gladwin
L.Thompson
Barker






Are we only playing 10 next year?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, April 28, 2014, 11:25:22
Are we only playing 10 next year?

Yep, to give the other teams a chance!


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, April 28, 2014, 11:29:42
Yep, to give the other teams a chance!

Save the referees a job...


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: kerry red on Monday, April 28, 2014, 11:30:18
Not expecting any incoming, then?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, April 28, 2014, 11:32:58
Not expecting any incoming, then?

Well of course we will bring some in.

Just trying to work with what we have at the moment and see where we think should be strengthened.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, April 28, 2014, 11:43:06
Well of course we will bring some in.

Just trying to work with what we have at the moment and see where we think should be strengthened.

I'm not sure that we can think too much about next season, until we know what is happening with the club....the Power template of a 20 man squad, and a budget slightly more than Forest Green, may very well have to ripped up for something different...if the Luton wide boys get in, I'd imagine it will be back to spending money we don't have.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Tails on Monday, April 28, 2014, 17:59:01
http://www.stroudnewsandjournal.co.uk/sport/11175168.FOREST_Green_could_re_sign_their_former_captain_Luke_Graham_in_a_summer_deal_from_Hereford_United/

No idea who he is, but some Turley bloke joining us according to this.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, April 28, 2014, 18:02:59
http://www.stroudnewsandjournal.co.uk/sport/11175168.FOREST_Green_could_re_sign_their_former_captain_Luke_Graham_in_a_summer_deal_from_Hereford_United/

No idea who he is, but some Turley bloke joining us according to this.
England C international central defender.

http://www.thefa.com/england/all-teams/players/t/jamie-turley

http://forum.fgrfc.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=38521


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, April 28, 2014, 18:05:04
http://www.stroudnewsandjournal.co.uk/sport/11175168.FOREST_Green_could_re_sign_their_former_captain_Luke_Graham_in_a_summer_deal_from_Hereford_United/

No idea who he is, but some Turley bloke joining us according to this.

I like how one of Forest Green's players moving in to the Football League is a footnote.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Tails on Monday, April 28, 2014, 18:05:11
Well they seem to think highly of him.

Yan Klukowski is available on a free too. He's been decent, albeit in the Conference, and I'm pretty sure he's a Wiltshire boy. In fact I think I remember us having him on trial a few years ago?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, April 28, 2014, 18:08:53
Well they seem to think highly of him.

Yan Klukowski is available on a free too. He's been decent, albeit in the Conference, and I'm pretty sure he's a Wiltshire boy. In fact I think I remember us having him on trial a few years ago?

Correct on both counts. He's from Chippenham and scored during his trial period at Swindon.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: phelpsieboy on Monday, April 28, 2014, 18:18:03
Turley is brilliant, great in the air and on the ground. Captain of the England C team. Get to see FGR quite a lot because of my job and Cooper has been there quite a lot mid week.
Klukowski would be good in the Mason role and can certainly score too. He's FGR's all time top Conference scorer.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: tans on Monday, April 28, 2014, 18:21:35
So good they are releasing him on a free?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: tans on Monday, April 28, 2014, 18:24:35
Scrap that i see he hasnt agreed a contract


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, April 28, 2014, 18:25:59
So good they are releasing him on a free?
He is over 24 and has chosen to move on so they cannot get a fee for him, FGR are cutting wages for next season too and hes their highest earner apparently.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: tans on Monday, April 28, 2014, 18:30:17
We should sign Lee Hughes while we are at it


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, April 28, 2014, 18:31:37
We should sign Lee Hughes while we are at it
Only if we keep Ranger, get Madine on loan and sign Ched Evans when he is released soon ;)


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: tans on Monday, April 28, 2014, 18:32:10
Yeah why not.



Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, April 28, 2014, 18:34:03
Yeah why not.


Wages....HMP pays more than we can afford next season for wages.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, April 28, 2014, 19:00:11
In fairness to Klukowski he's leaving to pursue potential Football League opportunities and not because of being surplus to requirements.

Must have an offer from someone.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Sippo on Monday, April 28, 2014, 19:42:33
McCormick is signing on


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Tails on Monday, April 28, 2014, 20:01:20
Only if we keep Ranger, get Madine on loan and sign Ched Evans when he is released soon ;)

You joke but that is one hell of a strikeforce!


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, April 29, 2014, 06:41:35
You don't rate Thompson & Thompson, Luongo and Kasim?

I do...but that's still not enough to give us a complete defence or midfield is it.
Ok between the sticks as in we have the strength and depth there and don't need to address it (unless Wes goes obviously)


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, April 29, 2014, 09:09:55
McCormick is signing on
For who?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, April 29, 2014, 09:10:41
For who?

Plymouth.

http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/Luke-McCormick-signs-new-year-contract-Plymouth/story-21024534-detail/story.html


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: tans on Friday, May 2, 2014, 21:17:16
Oakley gone then.

Posted a montage on instagram saying memories and when i asked whether he was moving on he said he was.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Exiled Bob on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 11:45:24
Harry Agombar - Cheerio. Imagine if he got a new deal?
Maybe that's the real reason Jed's back....


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: ibelieveinmrreeves on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 12:11:47
Turley is brilliant, great in the air

I just read this as 'Turkey'. Thought this was an odd attribute for a turkey.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: SwindonOldie on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 12:50:13
is Miles Storey off? this on twitter

Last trim at new image in old town, gna have to find a Turkish barbers in the West Mids their s***HOT !


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 12:52:15
is Miles Storey off? this on twitter

Last trim at new image in old town, gna have to find a Turkish barbers in the West Mids their s***HOT !

I'm assuming before he goes home for the summer?..


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 16:43:30
@KaydenJackson14: Last drive home from Swindon, been a good year with some top lads! Looking forward to what the future will bring now though  ⚽️👍

See ya.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 16:50:46
@SamMorshead_SA: Aaron Oakley confirms he is to leave Swindon Town after 14 years with the club, following the expiration of his contract.#stfc

Thanks for the memories


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Batch on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 17:01:19
Swindon Town release Dany N'Guessan, Jay McEveley, Alex Smith, Paul Benson, Lee Cox, Aaron Oakley after contracts expire.

Mark Francis, Kayden Jackson, Leigh Bedwell and Alex Ferguson are also released by the club #stfc

http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/article/outofcontractplayers-1525317.aspx


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: kerry red on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 17:04:05
Surprised and disappointed about Lee Cox

Why no mention about Andy Williams?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 17:05:11
Surprised at Jackson. Thought he was being brought through the leagues. Obviously feel that there are better out there.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 17:05:48
Surprised at Smith too...I know he had an injury..but looked half decent when he played..


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Batch on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 17:06:25
Surprised and disappointed about Lee Cox

Why no mention about Andy Williams?

Andy Williams has another year.

I'm not surprised about Cox. He's in the J-Mac boat - brought in by PDC and therefore probably too expensive. He's not featured much anyway, unlike J-Mac.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 17:06:28
Perhaps Cox was on decent money and wouldn't accept a pay cut? He was on of the players Paolo brought in, then barely played him.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: kerry red on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 17:08:41
Jeeze, I thought it was up for Williams this season.

Drain on meagrely resources still


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 17:09:58
I'd be surprised if Williams gets a squad number next season..


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Batch on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 17:11:01
Jeeze, I thought it was up for Williams this season.

Drain on meagrely resources still

We all did. Was originally reported as a 2 year deal. SM tweeted it seems to actually be a 3 year deal.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: kerry red on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 17:12:17
Play the fucker, then.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: tans on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 17:12:27
Weve still got Agombar 8)


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 17:12:38
We all did. Was originally reported as a 2 year deal. SM tweeted it seems to actually be a 3 year deal.


He looked fairly shite when played upfront on his own but might well link up well with Smith if he can get over his injuries. Can hope anyway.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 17:13:11
.......and Reis?...


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Batch on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 17:13:32
Next season, why not. Would imagine we will try and offload, can't see many takers given his recent injury has taken him out the spotlight and needing to prove fitness. (Williams that is)


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 17:14:35
Williams had a bad knee injury didn't he? Never was the same after he challenged a keeper and came off worse.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Batch on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 17:14:38
.......and Reis?...

MIA in Shrivvy road looking for his penalty football.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 17:15:40
Get updating, Costanza. It's your forum job.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 17:17:19
So, those not released and to whom presumably contracts have been/are being offered are:
Branco
TAH (Power said on radio pay as play offered)
Barthram
Waldon


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 17:18:22
Barthram has looked a good player, guess the form of Thompson has kept him out - can he play on the left?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 17:19:43
Play the fucker, then.
That's the last thing we fucking need. Was shit and then just gave up trying.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 17:19:47
Waldon looked ok today. He's no storey but tidy enough.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 17:20:53
Barthram has looked a good player, guess the form of Thompson has kept him out - can he play on the left?
Cooper mentioned a while back that Barthram was signed with an eye on next year.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 17:21:05
I'd like to see us ditch Harley and Tijane but can't imagine teams queueing up to help us out there.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 17:21:29
So, those not released and to whom presumably contracts have been/are being offered are:
Branco
TAH (Power said on radio pay as play offered)
Barthram
Waldon
Both Barthram and Branco were fucking useless today. I don't think Barthram has done enough to earn a contract. Branco is an interesting one, good and shit in equal measure. I'd be inclined to keep him.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Batch on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 17:23:09
TAH (Power said on radio pay as play offered)

Can't see that one, unless he's so knackered he can't pass a medical elsewhere.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 17:29:19
And what's so bad about offering a crock a deal where we only pay him if he plays? Sounds sensible to me


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Batch on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 17:30:43
Nothing from the clubs point of view. Can't see the player going for it, that's all.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: STFCFORLIFE on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 17:32:30
Powers such a tight ass, we've saved loads from releasing Cox, Benson, Navarro etc etc then offer troy a crappy pay as you play deal, he'll go elsewhere, he also didn't try hard enough to keep McEveley, sounds similar to the McCormack thing last season.

Wes will be sold no doubt cheaply at that.

We'll be left with the back up keeper, Byrne, Thompson Twins, Luongo, Harley, Reis, Kasim, Storey, Waldon, Branco, Barthram, M.Smith, Williams, Ward (he should be let go).



Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Bogus Dave on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 17:33:17
hahaha


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: @mwooly63 on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 17:34:02
Both Barthram and Branco were fucking useless today. I don't think Barthram has done enough to earn a contract.

Barthram got himself into plenty of decent forward positions today ,unmarked ,just didnt receive the ball
Has looked worthy of a new contract overall I think. Tho his game time has been severely limited this season


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Batch on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 17:34:23
In fairness Power has always talked about self sustainability. That is what it means, in playing terms. Most clubs post a loss...


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 17:35:24
Powers such a tight ass, we've saved loads from releasing Cox, Benson, Navarro etc etc then offer troy a crappy pay as you play deal, he'll go elsewhere, he also didn't try hard enough to keep McEveley, sounds similar to the McCormack thing last season.

Wes will be sold no doubt cheaply at that.

We'll be left with the back up keeper, Byrne, Thompson Twins, Luongo, Harley, Reis, Kasim, Storey, Waldon, Branco, Barthram, M.Smith, Williams, Ward (he should be let go).


How dare he (or any other owner/benefactor) not throw money into a bottomless pit?! A total disgrace trying to keep the club from living beyond it's means


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 17:37:19
Powers such a tight ass, we've saved loads from releasing Cox, Benson, Navarro etc etc then offer troy a crappy pay as you play deal, he'll go elsewhere, he also didn't try hard enough to keep McEveley, sounds similar to the McCormack thing last season.

Wes will be sold no doubt cheaply at that.

We'll be left with the back up keeper, Byrne, Thompson Twins, Luongo, Harley, Reis, Kasim, Storey, Waldon, Branco, Barthram, M.Smith, Williams, Ward (he should be let go).



JMac wants to move back closer to Scotland I believe so it was always highly improbable we'd have kept him whatever we offered.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/
Post by: Swindon Please Win on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 17:37:58
Alex Smith impressed me every time he played, he can't have been on much, I know he had injury problems but would of liked to have keeped him.

Rest I'm not surprised at.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: tans on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 17:43:37
JMac wants to move back closer to Scotland I believe so it was always highly improbable we'd have kept him whatever we offered.

You mean liverpool.

I reckon he'll sign for Preston or Fleetwood


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 17:44:49
You mean liverpool.

I reckon he'll sign for Preston or Fleetwood

Oops yes, I thought he was Scottish as he plague international football for them! He's scouse of course!

Good luck to him, he showed some passion and desire when he played.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: ronnie21 on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 17:55:49
Was Navarro's name on that list?


Title: Re: Re: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 17:59:12
Was Navarro's name on that list?
He's been paid off and has retired from pro football


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 18:00:29
Harry Agombar survives another day....?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 18:13:31
JMac wants to move back closer to Scotland I believe so it was always highly improbable we'd have kept him whatever we offered.

Now watch him go and sign for Shitty ;D

That's not a rumour, by the way. Although I suppose it will be now, albeit a rumour that I just made up.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 18:15:27
Powers such a tight ass, we've saved loads from releasing Cox, Benson, Navarro etc etc then offer troy a crappy pay as you play deal, he'll go elsewhere, he also didn't try hard enough to keep McEveley, sounds similar to the McCormack thing last season.

Wes will be sold no doubt cheaply at that.

We'll be left with the back up keeper, Byrne, Thompson Twins, Luongo, Harley, Reis, Kasim, Storey, Waldon, Branco, Barthram, M.Smith, Williams, Ward (he should be let go).



Bloody hell.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Summerof69 on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 18:19:34
Harry Agombar survives another day....?

Jed gave him a two year deal...


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 18:20:00
Harry Agombar survives another day....?

Possibly or possibly he's so inconsequential they forgot to name him, just like when he broke his leg and it never got reported.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 18:20:21
Jed gave him a two year deal...

He didn't??? Fuck me


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 18:25:55
Jed gave him a two year deal...

He did? Strewth.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Trashbat? on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 18:27:19
What about Navarro?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 18:29:17
Jed gave him a two year deal...

http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/news/10575863.Traveller_Harry_ready_to_settle_in_Wiltshire/

Hopefully it's not a similar inaccuracy like Andy Williams' 3-year deal.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Arriba on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 18:30:53
Forgive my ignorance but why has jmac not been retained?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: kerry red on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 18:32:41
Big wages


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Arriba on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 18:34:08
Big wages
thought so.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: kerry red on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 18:41:03
He's gone from zero to hero this season - but, no doubt, there will be a new hero for next season!


Title: Re:
Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 18:59:59
By the sounds of his interview after the game it was as much his decision as the club. Finances obviously an issue but we cannot match the wages we offered 2 years ago and I'm glad we're not.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Bogus Dave on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 19:14:28
He wanted to go back up north didn't he??


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: tans on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 19:22:11
He wanted to go back up north didn't he??

This was my understanding of it, probably sign for someone like Preston or Fleetwood


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Summerof69 on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 19:23:11
He didn't??? Fuck me

Jed has links with Agombar's dad.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: ronnie21 on Saturday, May 3, 2014, 19:38:38
Jed has links with Agombar's dad.
It seems Jed has links with everybody!!


Title: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Ralphy on Sunday, May 4, 2014, 04:31:45
It's the lack of goals what worries me about next season. Not one proven goalscorer on the books. Looking at that list, we have Michael Smith, Andy Williams, Connor Waldon and Miles Storey if he's still contracted ??


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Ralphy on Sunday, May 4, 2014, 04:46:07
Oh and Will Randall and George Barker. God help us.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Tamworth Red Army on Sunday, May 4, 2014, 06:14:00
We need some experience in that position. Aljose was missed once he went back


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Batch on Sunday, May 4, 2014, 07:52:46
l'll panic if we start the season not looking for a striker, not there for a while yet...


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Abrahammer on Sunday, May 4, 2014, 08:14:55
1 day after the season and that big panic button is needed for some already.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Ralphy on Sunday, May 4, 2014, 08:54:45
Wes's contract is up too isn't it ?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Batch on Sunday, May 4, 2014, 08:57:36
Wes's contract is up too isn't it ?

I thought it was extended at the beginning of the season. So if he leaves, then at least we get cash.

edit: Yeah, 1 more year to go:

http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/news/headlines/10506959.Foderingham_signs_new_Robins_deal/?ref=rss


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Ralphy on Sunday, May 4, 2014, 09:00:05
Good news then. We should try and get cash now while he has a year to run.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Batch on Sunday, May 4, 2014, 09:02:20
To be honest, much as I rate Fods, I wouldn't begrudge him moving to a higher level now if he gets offers.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: donkey on Sunday, May 4, 2014, 09:05:22
To be honest, much as I rate Fods, I wouldn't begrudge him moving to a higher level now if he gets offers.

As much as I'd love him to stay, he deserves the chance to play in the Championship...and I'd wish him all the best.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Ralphy on Sunday, May 4, 2014, 09:15:11
Good servant and a model professional. I believe he doesn't even drink?

He deserves a move. 

Belford is not a number 1 keeper in this league though, good back up.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, May 4, 2014, 09:23:41
Wes Foderingham came to Swindon without a single professional game. I'm willing to give Belford a chance if Foderingham leaves.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Honkytonk on Sunday, May 4, 2014, 09:54:22
Wes Foderingham came to Swindon without a single professional game. I'm willing to give Belford a chance if Foderingham leaves.

Agreed. For an 18 year old Belford's pretty fucking good. Mind you that didn't stop some of the moaners in the DRS complaining. 'God our new keeper's old isn't he?.'

 ::)

And let's not quite hit the panic button yet please people. The season only finished yesterday. If I was Power/Coops I'd be offering Wes a new contract using some of the money freed up from getting those other players off the books. Essential keep, if purely for a larger future transfer fee. I know we're trying to reduce our wage bill etc. but offering Wes a new contract in good time would be a sound business decision as well as brilliant for our Football Club.

That said, I won't begrudge him if he leaves for a Championship/Prem side. Long as they pay a decent wedge, it's what he deserves, brilliant professional and amazing servant to the club.

Including the Loan Market, our targets for the summer need to be : 20-a season striker, Good Central Defender (possibly two), and someone to fill in Pritch's role as set piece taker/winger/attacking midfielder. Other than that I'm honestly in good spirits about where we stand for next season.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Barry Scott on Sunday, May 4, 2014, 09:57:11
This was my understanding of it, probably sign for someone like Preston or Fleetwood

Yeah, this is what I heard, but I was waiting for someone else to say it first. :)


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, May 4, 2014, 09:59:27
It's the lack of goals what worries me about next season. Not one proven goalscorer on the books. Looking at that list, we have Michael Smith, Andy Williams, Connor Waldon and Miles Storey if he's still contracted ??

Here we go.

It's May, Ralphy. It's May.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: @mwooly63 on Sunday, May 4, 2014, 10:02:44
Belford is deffo not the finished article but then neither was Wes when he first pitched up here.
I like Wes and yes he does deserve to play at a higher level, tis a pity we havent offered him that yet.
Hopefully  he stays but can see him going ( pretty sure thought that last summer  :hmmm: )
Belford will make a decent fist of it in goal as cant see us going out to get another established number 1


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, May 4, 2014, 10:10:51
Interest in Wes is not usually all that great with just one or two bids that are not exactly mind blowing. Supposedly some prospective customers are reluctant because he is quite short for a goalie.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: kerry red on Sunday, May 4, 2014, 10:13:07
The other thing is a lot of clubs already have a decent keeper and are reluctant to spend big money on a new one.

Unless a club has real dodge pot between the sticks they see money better spent on an outfield player.

Hopefully!


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: pauld on Sunday, May 4, 2014, 10:28:50
Unless a club has real dodge pot between the sticks
Ha ha what a brilliant turn of phrase. I'm going to nick this. Next time you hear someone at a game shouting "X you dodge pot", that'll be me :)


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Sunday, May 4, 2014, 10:29:20
He is still young and I reckon interested clubs will wait until his contract expires and get him for free.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Batch on Sunday, May 4, 2014, 11:20:29
Belford is deffo not the finished article but then neither was Wes when he first pitched up here.

Wes was pretty damn awesome when he came in. Mind you that may be perception because Phil Smith and David Lucas had spent some time trying to out dodge pot each other.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Tails on Sunday, May 4, 2014, 11:30:35
It's the lack of goals what worries me about next season. Not one proven goalscorer on the books. Looking at that list, we have Michael Smith, Andy Williams, Connor Waldon and Miles Storey if he's still contracted ??

Smith got 18 goals this season and is still raw.

I would put good money on him getting at least 20 next season.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: blinkpip on Sunday, May 4, 2014, 12:26:29
I'm maybe the only one, but I'm looking forward in Andy Williams returning next season. Does give us something different attacking.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, May 4, 2014, 12:28:54
I'm maybe the only one, but I'm looking forward in Andy Williams returning next season. Does give us something different attacking.

The first time I saw him play, albeit on TV, I was very excited by him. Hopefully he'll regain his form.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: oldtownred on Sunday, May 4, 2014, 12:34:20
Williams is big confidence player. Di Canio destroyed that in him.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Posh Red on Sunday, May 4, 2014, 14:19:10
Williams is big confidence player. Di Canio destroyed that in him.

Actually, I think it was Yeovil's keeper (the one that injured him).

He was never the same after that


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: sonicyouth on Sunday, May 4, 2014, 14:20:37
Actually, I think it was Yeovil's keeper (the one that injured him).

He was never the same after that
Yep, he bottled everything and lost a bit of pace after that. Shame as he looked the best of our forwards up until that.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Sunday, May 4, 2014, 16:09:31
I'm maybe the only one, but I'm looking forward in Andy Williams returning next season. Does give us something different attacking.
A non scoring forward, just what we need. His performance at Brentford in the play offs was one of the worst I've ever seen in a Town shirt.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Sunday, May 4, 2014, 16:32:29
He started as a winger so why not try him out there if he's about for another season. He may even chip in with 5 or 6 goals.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Sunday, May 4, 2014, 20:13:11
Re: '20 goals a season striker' didn't Smith get 8 since he joined? Not bad considering he joined in January, and for the most part he was playing as a lone striker...which clearly doesn't suit his game...

Admittedly he needs to work on that first touch though.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Power to people on Monday, May 5, 2014, 19:44:23
He started as a winger so why not try him out there if he's about for another season. He may even chip in with 5 or 6 goals.

But we don't play with wingers...


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: kerry red on Monday, May 5, 2014, 20:36:53
First of the silly season rumours is Norwood from FGR


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, May 5, 2014, 20:41:31
First of the silly season rumours is Norwood from FGR

It wouldn't be a summer without being linked to an FGR player and we've already been linked to Turley.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: ronnie21 on Monday, May 5, 2014, 20:44:35
Turley is a very strong possibility, Cooper has been scouting FGR for a number of weeks.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, May 5, 2014, 20:46:38
Turley is a very strong possibility, Cooper has been scouting FGR for a number of weeks.

So Norwood and Klukowski is on...

I'm sure that Rovers fan who comes on here every other summer telling us how great they'll in the upcoming season will no doubt keep us posted.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: ronnie21 on Monday, May 5, 2014, 21:01:29
Both Stroud News and Wilts and Glos Standard who are based in FGR area have said that Turley is signing - we shall see!!


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Honkytonk on Monday, May 5, 2014, 21:09:32
I saw the name Norwood and hoped it would be Oliver, midfield lynchpin to my FM11 Swindon squad. Set piece king, dynamo playmaker, tough-tackling, ball winning midfielder.

Fucking beast.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: ibelieveinmrreeves on Tuesday, May 6, 2014, 16:40:04
I saw the name Norwood and hoped it would be Oliver, midfield lynchpin to my FM11 Swindon squad. Set piece king, dynamo playmaker, tough-tackling, ball winning midfielder.

Fucking beast.

Wonder what he's like in real life...


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Honkytonk on Tuesday, May 6, 2014, 17:35:06
Wonder what he's like in real life...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_Norwood


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: kerry red on Tuesday, May 6, 2014, 17:41:37
Pity it is not him, though!

The FGR player is James Norwood


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Honkytonk on Tuesday, May 6, 2014, 17:43:16
Pity it is not him, though!

The FGR player is James Norwood

I know, hence why I said I saw the name 'Norwood' and hoped it would be Oliver.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: SwindonOldie on Tuesday, May 6, 2014, 19:42:56
Turley is a very strong possibility, Cooper has been scouting FGR for a number of weeks.

Got to be Hockaday not Cooper


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Posh Red on Monday, May 12, 2014, 18:09:11
The worrying thing is looking at the players that are under contract or are in talks if you take out the first year pros & the Samsung player it leaves a squad of 20. This was the number mentioned towards the end of the season that we would be looking at of Swindon players.

I know that means we have a few loan signings still to come in (which will be very important) but might suggest that we have a one in/one out policy.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: @mwooly63 on Monday, May 12, 2014, 19:57:56
Jack Barthram tweeted to Dean Parrett earlier that he had another year so looks like signed extension
Has since deleted the tweet tho  :sherlock:

Nice of club to pass on the news


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Costanza on Friday, June 13, 2014, 17:58:24
THE SQUAD

GOALKEEPERS

1. Wes Foderingham (2015)
25. Tyrell Belford (2015)

DEFENDERS

2. Nathan Thompson (2015)
29. Raphael Branco (2015)
36. Matty Jones (2015)
44. Curtis Da Costa (2015)
--. Josh Lelan (Loan)

DEFENDERS/MIDFIELDERS

3. Nathan Byrne (2015)
23. Jack Barthram (2015)
39. Ben Gladwin (2015)
--. Antonio Josue (2015 - Samsung)

MIDFIELDERS

4. Massimo Luongo (2016)
6. Tijane Freitas Reis (2015)
15. Yaser Kasim (2016)
19. Louis Thompson (2015)
27. Harry Agombar (2015)
--. Anton Rodgers (2015)

MIDFIELDERS/FORWARDS

10. Andy Williams (2015)

FORWARDS

17. Connor Waldon (2015)
28. Michael Smith (2016)
33. George Barker (2015)


THE WILDNERSS

7. Ryan Harley (2015)
22. Darren Ward (2015)

OUT OF LOAN

20. Miles Storey (2015)


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Batch on Friday, June 13, 2014, 18:10:59
Morshead has an Archibald-Henville update for us tomorrow...

Perhaps he can tell Cooper too, he didn't seem to know on BBC Wilts earlier :)


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Saturday, June 14, 2014, 21:15:05
Hasn't Agombar signed for Hereford?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Sunday, June 22, 2014, 21:36:50
Looking at the club website about preordering next seasons shirt, when you click on the link to personalise the shirt some players names don't appear. Harley, Belford to name some off top of my head. Sinister or just no one wants their name on their shirt? :hmmm:

http://www.stfcdirect.com/5_Replica-Kit/14_Home-Kit/1501_Regi-14-Adult-Home-Shirt.html


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: nigel grays a postie on Sunday, June 29, 2014, 08:50:55
As there appears to be a a complete wall of silence from the club do the players actually start pre season training tomorrow?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: ronnie21 on Sunday, June 29, 2014, 08:58:52
As there appears to be a a complete wall of silence from the club do the players actually start pre season training tomorrow?
July 1st I thought, although some of them have been in for fitness assessments - whatever that is!


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: A Gent Orange on Sunday, June 29, 2014, 09:03:29
July 1st I thought, although some of them have been in for fitness assessments - whatever that is!

In Paolo's day it meant running and bleep tests and more running and walking across pits of fire and leaping between lazers and a dance-off with Satan himself. Now Jamie Pitman puts on a 30 day shred DVD while everyone promises to cut down on the tabs.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Sunday, June 29, 2014, 09:07:34
Looking at the club website about preordering next seasons shirt, when you click on the link to personalise the shirt some players names don't appear. Harley, Belford

With the news of Belford to go out on loan this season, does it mean Harley is going too?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Friday, July 11, 2014, 21:28:27
With the news of Belford to go out on loan this season, does it mean Harley is going too?

Looking at the club website about preordering next seasons shirt, when you click on the link to personalise the shirt some players names don't appear. Harley, Belford to name some off top of my head. Sinister or just no one wants their name on their shirt? :hmmm:

http://www.stfcdirect.com/5_Replica-Kit/14_Home-Kit/1501_Regi-14-Adult-Home-Shirt.html

I told you!

http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/news/11336714.Ward_and_Harley_not_part_of_Cooper_s_plans/?ref=var_0


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: nigel grays a postie on Friday, July 11, 2014, 21:39:04
well past it Ward and pretty disinterested Harley no great loss  but who the hell would take them off our hands which we presumably need to get much needed replacements in for them


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Red Frog on Saturday, July 12, 2014, 08:40:49
What about Alex Smith? What's happened to him?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: tans on Saturday, July 12, 2014, 08:42:26
Got released


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Red Frog on Saturday, July 12, 2014, 08:47:54
Got released

Oh, missed that. Deemed injury-prone?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: JoeMezz on Monday, August 4, 2014, 22:39:20
[quote Ashleigh Hopkins: @ashleighscfc - "@Ashleighscfc: @PFA Swindon Town Football Club' successfully completed the PFA Equality & Diversity Training ! Great lads"
[/quote]

with this picture

couple I don't recognise.. surprised to still see Ward and Harley around


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, August 5, 2014, 07:16:20
Isn't that Harry Agombar bottom left also?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: THE FLASH on Tuesday, August 5, 2014, 07:16:35
Fucking hell....Even Blackpool have more players than us!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28639684


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, August 5, 2014, 07:43:40
Not true, yet.

THE SQUAD

GOALKEEPERS

1. Wes Foderingham (2015)
25. Tyrell Belford (2015)

DEFENDERS

2. Nathan Thompson (2015)
29. Raphael Branco (2015)
36. Matty Jones (2015)
44. Curtis Da Costa (2015)
--. Josh Lelan (Loan)
--. Jordan Turnbull (Loan... we think)

DEFENDERS/MIDFIELDERS

3. Nathan Byrne (2015)
23. Jack Barthram (2015)
39. Ben Gladwin (2015)
--. Antonio Josue (2015 - Samsung)

MIDFIELDERS

4. Massimo Luongo (2016)
6. Tijane Freitas Reis (2015)
15. Yaser Kasim (2016)
19. Louis Thompson (2015)
27. Harry Agombar (2015)
--. Anton Rodgers (2015)

MIDFIELDERS/FORWARDS

10. Andy Williams (2015)

FORWARDS

17. Connor Waldon (2015)
28. Michael Smith (2016)
33. George Barker (2015)


THE WILDNERSS

7. Ryan Harley (2015)
22. Darren Ward (2015)

OUT OF LOAN

20. Miles Storey (2015)


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, August 5, 2014, 08:23:21
Fuck me, there is some work to be done with contract negotiations this year...  Only 3 of those players have contracts that don't run out at the end of this season... 


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: @mwooly63 on Tuesday, August 5, 2014, 08:44:05
Fuck me, there is some work to be done with contract negotiations this year...  Only 3 of those players have contracts that don't run out at the end of this season... 

Just thinking that myself
Hopefully some of those have extensions written in making it a lil easier


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, August 5, 2014, 08:57:31
Fuck me, there is some work to be done with contract negotiations this year...  Only 3 of those players have contracts that don't run out at the end of this season... 

I suspect that was the point. 2015 will be when Power's master plan kicks in.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, August 5, 2014, 14:03:41
Back from Ireland, so who did we sign when I was away?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Tuesday, August 5, 2014, 14:05:39
Back from Ireland, so who did we sign when I was away?

Here's a list..


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, August 5, 2014, 14:06:44
Here's a list..

Will I bring my boots for the Scunthorpe game then? Wafer thin squad going into the opening game, hopefully no injuries in training this week!


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, August 5, 2014, 14:09:11
Back from Ireland, so who did we sign when I was away?

Someone who can deliver a quiz every week  :)


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, August 5, 2014, 14:25:05
Sam Morshead ‏@SamMorshead_SA  21m
Jordan Turnbull given permission by Southampton to be in Swindon Town team photo. Deal is close #stfc

There you go, hot off the presses. Or not.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, August 5, 2014, 14:48:23
Does it really take a week to sign a player? The deal has been 'close' since before the Leeds game. What are they waiting for?!


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Levi lapper on Tuesday, August 5, 2014, 15:16:18
Saint's have apparently entered a european under 21 league, a bit like the champions league. This might put an end to our potential signing of JS on loan ...


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Tuesday, August 5, 2014, 18:16:29
Does it really take a week to sign a player? The deal has been 'close' since before the Leeds game. What are they waiting for?!

Probably waiting for Ward or Harley to leave first to free up wages.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Honkytonk on Tuesday, August 5, 2014, 23:24:17
Will I bring my boots for the Scunthorpe game then? Wafer thin squad going into the opening game, hopefully no injuries in training this week!

If we need a right winger I'm in.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Wednesday, August 6, 2014, 18:29:33
Who's the lad wearing number 11 in the squad photo video?...

Anyone know?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, August 6, 2014, 18:30:44
You could at least give us a screenshot!


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Wednesday, August 6, 2014, 18:54:01
You could at least give us a screenshot!

Hmm...


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, August 6, 2014, 18:56:37
Lelan isn't it?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Wednesday, August 6, 2014, 18:58:26
I have no idea, I wouldn't know what he looks like...

Thanks though :-)


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, August 6, 2014, 18:59:29
I have no idea, I wouldn't know what he looks like...

Thanks though :-)

(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/76460000/jpg/_76460871_leland_getty.jpg)


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Wednesday, August 6, 2014, 19:01:29
(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/76460000/jpg/_76460871_leland_getty.jpg)

Nah, the one I was looking at was wearing a Swindon shirt ;)


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, August 6, 2014, 19:06:57
Hmm...

Who's farted?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, August 6, 2014, 19:09:15
The big Samsung centre back played against Bedfont. He wasn't very good but we tried to play football on a bumpy surface so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, August 7, 2014, 15:28:14
THE SQUAD 2014/15

GOALKEEPERS

1. Wes Foderingham (2015)
2. Nathan Thompson (2015)
3. Nathan Byrne (2015)
4. Massimo Luongo (2016)
5.
6. Jordan Turnbull (Loan)
7. Ben Gladwin (2015)
8. Yaser Kasim (2016)
9. Michael Smith (2016)
10. Andy Williams (2015)
11. Brad Smith (Loan)
12.
14.
15. Josh Lelan (Loan)
16. Connor Waldon (2015)
17. Ryan Harley (2015)
18. George Barker (2015)
19. Louis Thompson (2015)
20.
21. Matty Jones (2015 - Out on Loan)
22. Darren Ward (2015)
23. Jack Barthram (2015)
24. Curtis Da Costa (2015 - Out on Loan)
25. Tyrell Belford (2015)
26. Anton Rodgers (2015)
27. Antonio Josue (2015 - Samsung)
28.
29. Raphael Branco (2015)
30. Harry Agombar (2015)
--. Tijane Freitas Reis (2015)
--. Miles Storey (2015)

GOALKEEPER
DEFENDER
MIDFIELDER
FORWARD
WILDERNESS


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, August 7, 2014, 15:38:05
I thought Rodgers was a 1 year deal?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, August 7, 2014, 15:39:32
It is, unless it's another case of vagueness like they've done with Williams, Storey and Agombar in the past.


Title: Re:
Post by: Batch on Thursday, August 7, 2014, 16:50:09
So Reis is on his way then. Oh well.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, August 7, 2014, 17:29:49
Turnbull expected to be announced tomorrow.

Interestingly one of our academy boys, Tyreke Johnson has signed for Southampton for 4 years, part of the deal?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: @mwooly63 on Thursday, August 7, 2014, 18:29:50
Turnbull expected to be announced tomorrow.

Interestingly one of our academy boys, Tyreke Johnson has signed for Southampton for 4 years, part of the deal?

Lets hope we had a sell on with the kid as did Bmuff with Lallana,
Tho if history has taught us anything we dont think that far ahead


Title: Re:
Post by: JoeMezz on Thursday, August 7, 2014, 18:34:05
So Reis is on his way then. Oh well.

that penalty was enough for him to go


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Friday, August 8, 2014, 09:32:41
do we have the youngest squad in the football league ?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, August 8, 2014, 09:54:51
Matty Jones & Curtis Da Costa both sign on loan for Wantage for a month.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Berniman on Friday, August 8, 2014, 10:16:48
Lets hope we had a sell on with the kid as did Bmuff with Lallana,
Tho if history has taught us anything we dont think that far ahead

You would expect Power to be a bit more savvy than previous though...


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Honkytonk on Friday, August 8, 2014, 11:33:54
Matty Jones & Curtis Da Costa both sign on loan for Wantage for a month.

DOOMED, WE'RE DOOOOMED


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Power to people on Friday, August 8, 2014, 11:39:23
that penalty was enough for him to go

Nothing official though only not in the squad list


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: kerry red on Friday, August 8, 2014, 15:40:27
The more I think of all the recent experienced old pros we've had, the more I think I prefer the present model.

Can't think of one who added much to the side


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Friday, August 8, 2014, 16:01:39
The more I think of all the recent experienced old pros we've had, the more I think I prefer the present model.

Can't think of one who added much to the side

In recent years Darren Ward and Gordon Greer are two who fit the bill.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: kerry red on Friday, August 8, 2014, 16:04:54
I thought about Greer but was he actually that old when with us.

He's still playing FFS.

Ward is/was nothing better than OK - I wouldn't say he was ever a 'presence' in the side.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: DiV on Friday, August 8, 2014, 16:22:26
Depends on your definition of old really.

Alan McCormack, Jonathan Douglas, Darren Ward, Gordon Greer, Jay McEveley, David Lucas, Craig Easton, Lee Peacock....


Title: Re:
Post by: Batch on Friday, August 8, 2014, 17:00:42
Jmac and TAH are big big losses imho.

Also missing someone experienced up front when Williams inevitably goes missing.

Oh and a midfield enforcer.

I don't prefer the current model to that. But it is what it is.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Costanza on Friday, August 8, 2014, 17:35:09
Troy Archibald-Henville played 23 out of a possible 109 games for Swindon.

I just don't get how we'll miss him so much, we got on fine when he wasn't in the side.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Batch on Friday, August 8, 2014, 17:46:31
Troy Archibald-Henville played 23 out of a possible 109 games for Swindon.

I just don't get how we'll miss him so much, we got on fine when he wasn't in the side.

But we had Devera and Ward for a fair bit of that. Ward was admittedly shit last season, hence TAH became the experienced man.  The point is we had at least an experienced man in there and my personal opinion is you need a couple..

Obviously two youngster could turn be a revelation, but to me we currently look porous (solely based on the Villa game).


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, August 14, 2014, 10:39:12
Brad Smith out for 4-7 weeks.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, August 14, 2014, 10:56:42
That is not great news. Hopefully we'll get someone else in short term to cover, it'd be a shame to shoe-horn a right footer in there.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, August 14, 2014, 10:59:49
That is not great news. Hopefully we'll get someone else in short term to cover, it'd be a shame to shoe-horn a right footer in there.

Not really much point in having squad men like Bartram, then not playing them. It is preferable to have a left footer, but a decent player should be able to compensate..


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Friday, August 22, 2014, 16:34:27
Yaser Kasim interview with FIFA Futboll Mundial  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrFsjGzLd6I


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: kerry red on Friday, August 22, 2014, 16:41:29
Nice one


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Friday, August 22, 2014, 16:56:46
Decent!


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Friday, August 22, 2014, 18:02:48
From the hot tarmac of Baghdad! I fucking love Kasim.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Wednesday, August 27, 2014, 17:23:24
Gladwin out with torn ankle ligaments then :(


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: ibelieveinmrreeves on Wednesday, August 27, 2014, 17:27:06
Gladwin out with torn ankle ligaments then :(

For how long?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, August 27, 2014, 18:57:16
For how long?

One of those dodgy injuries it can be quite difficult to estimate...best case would be maybe 2 months, worst case a year.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: ron dodgers on Wednesday, August 27, 2014, 20:41:16
might only be 2 weeks - high or low sprain?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Samdy Gray on Wednesday, August 27, 2014, 20:47:38
I did my ankle ligaments many years ago and it's never been right since. However, I didn't get much in the way of medical treatment, so that might have something to do with it.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, August 27, 2014, 21:05:26
Done ankle ligs many times, 6 week injury


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: tans on Thursday, August 28, 2014, 15:01:53
Personally I dont think that Nathan Thompson is good enough for L1 and should have been let go. 

I wonder how much him getting a new contract is down to the fact that he shares the same agent as PDC as does Louis Thompson.  I do know that one of the current youth team players was contacted by said agent earlier this year with the promise that 'if you sign up with me you'll be fast tracked into the first team'..........

Teehee


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: tans on Thursday, August 28, 2014, 15:36:11
Tijane gone according to FLIC.



Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: TheMajorSTFC on Thursday, August 28, 2014, 15:46:20
Tijane gone according to FLIC.



Probably still looking for the ball he smacked over the bank against Peterborough in the JPT (well that's how I'll remember it anyway)...!


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: THE FLASH on Friday, August 29, 2014, 11:50:22
Probably still looking for the ball he smacked over the bank against Peterborough in the JPT (well that's how I'll remember it anyway)...!

That's still coming down now..


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: @mwooly63 on Friday, August 29, 2014, 14:40:28
Quote
Andrew Steele-Davis ‏@andrew_FLICW  26s
Reeves has penned a deal until January 2015 subject to Football League approval #stf

One to add to the squad list


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: THE FLASH on Friday, August 29, 2014, 21:41:53
Short deal but a signing is a signing...


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Costanza on Friday, August 29, 2014, 22:32:24
THE SQUAD 2014/15

GOALKEEPERS

1. Wes Foderingham (2015)
2. Nathan Thompson (2015)
3. Nathan Byrne (2015)
4. Massimo Luongo (2016)
5. Jack Stephens (Loan)
6. Jordan Turnbull (Loan)
7. Ben Gladwin (2015)
8. Yaser Kasim (2016)
9. Michael Smith (2016)
10. Andy Williams (2015)
11. Brad Smith (Loan)
12.
14. Jake Reeves (2015)
15. Josh Lelan (Loan)
16. Connor Waldon (2015)
17. Ryan Harley (2015)
18. George Barker (2015)
19. Louis Thompson (Loan)
20. Jonathan Obika
21. Matty Jones (2015) - out on loan
22. Darren Ward (2015)
23. Jack Barthram (2015)
24. Curtis Da Costa (2015) - out on loan
25. Tyrell Belford (2015)
26. Anton Rodgers (2015)
27. Antonio Josue (2015) - out on loan
28. Tom Smith (YTS - 1)
29. Raphael Branco (2015)
30. Harry Agombar (2015)
31. Will Randall (YTS - 2)
32. Lee Marshall (YTS - 2)
33. Tom Holland (YTS - 2)
--. Miles Storey (2016) - out on loan

GOALKEEPER
DEFENDER
MIDFIELDER
FORWARD
WILDERNESS


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Shaw Rosso on Friday, August 29, 2014, 23:35:54
That number 30 looks lively. You can get 9/1 on Harley to score 1st against Coventry later today.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: lambourn red on Wednesday, September 3, 2014, 11:37:28
Looks like Stephens No. 5, Reeves No. 14 and Obika No. 20 from the training photos on the OS.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Matt71 on Friday, September 5, 2014, 18:57:29
                                        Wes

                Stevens        N  Thompson    Turnball


      Byrne       Kasim      L Thompson     Luongo     B Smith

       
                                   Smith       Obika


Bench choice of- Gladwin,Branco,Reeves,Williams,Barker,Waldron,Rodgers,Bartram.

That is the strongest starting 11 we have had since playoffs with Wilson and the bench also looks good .Bearing in mind we have cut the budget to 1.8m (4m under the mad Italian) it's a Fantastic achievement and a testament to Power being a very shrewd guy with great football knowledge.Just imagine if we could now attract a bit of investment we could really kick on.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, September 5, 2014, 19:04:20
                                        Wes

                Stevens        N  Thompson    Turnball


      Byrne       Kasim      L Thompson     Luongo     B Smith

       
                                   Smith       Obika


Bench choice of- Gladwin,Branco,Reeves,Williams,Barker,Waldron,Rodgers,Bartram.

That is the strongest starting 11 we have had since playoffs with Wilson and the bench also looks good .

?

That's quite a statement. What does everybody else think?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: kerry red on Friday, September 5, 2014, 19:08:11
Agree totally.

At this moment in time all we lack is someone to put away all the chances we create.

That might well be Smith/Obika.

We shall see.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: dalumpimunki on Friday, September 5, 2014, 19:18:44
?

That's quite a statement. What does everybody else think?

I've been thinking for a while, and certainly since the deadline transactions that the team and squad is shaping up to be the most exciting in a long while.

That's not quite the same as the best. It's that combination of talent, youth, promise and potential. When we had money and we were investing in experienced players, you never felt like they were going to get any better. They were as good as they were ever going to be when we signed them, and most of them gradually declined until we released them on frees.

This lot feel like they're on their way up and all might be capable of more and better. That's more exciting.




Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Matt71 on Friday, September 5, 2014, 19:22:55
The only players  I would have in our present squad from the Wilson squad would be Austin ,Greer and Ward on the left.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, September 5, 2014, 19:23:56
I've been thinking for a while, and certainly since the deadline transactions that the team and squad is shaping up to be the most exciting in a long while.

That's not quite the same as the best. It's that combination of talent, youth, promise and potential. When we had money and we were investing in experienced players, you never felt like they were going to get any better. They were as good as they were ever going to be when we signed them, and most of them gradually declined until we released them on frees.

This lot feel like they're on their way up and all might be capable of more and better. That's more exciting.




The short period around Dec/Jan under PdC in Div 3 a couple of years, was perhaps when we had the strongest squad, with the likes of Hollands and Chris Martin...when we were stuffing sides for fun at the CG by in some cases 4's and 5's.....was perhaps when we looked most likely to go the Championship....but we all know what happened.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: dalumpimunki on Friday, September 5, 2014, 19:27:32
The short period around Dec/Jan under PdC in Div 3 a couple of years, was perhaps when we had the strongest squad, with the likes of Hollands and Chris Martin...when we were stuffing sides for fun at the CG by in some cases 4's and 5's.....was perhaps when we looked most likely to go the Championship....but we all know what happened.

Quite. But the squad still felt like it was mainly made up of players to get us out of L1, and that we'd need to build another one for the Championship. I look at the current lot and it feels like there might be a core that could cut it in the league above, and a number of others who might continue to progress enough to make it as well.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, September 5, 2014, 19:32:17
Quite. But the squad still felt like it was mainly made up of players to get us out of L1, and that we'd need to build another one for the Championship. I look at the current lot and it feels like there might be a core that could cut it in the league above, and a number of others who might continue to progress enough to make it as well.

True, but I'm sure PdC had been given a remit of get us up to the Championship, and we'll see what happens then.  It would be great if this current crop could do something, but given their youth etc, I don't think too many think it likely.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Friday, September 5, 2014, 20:21:11
The short period around Dec/Jan under PdC in Div 3 a couple of years, was perhaps when we had the strongest squad, with the likes of Hollands and Chris Martin...when we were stuffing sides for fun at the CG by in some cases 4's and 5's.....was perhaps when we looked most likely to go the Championship....but we all know what happened.

Spot on Reg.
Walking out of the 1-1 away draw against Bournemouth I have never felt so confident of promotion.
Beating Tranmere and Pompey 5-0 and Carlisle 4-0.
When we beat Shrewsbury 2-0 after clearing the pitch from snow I was disappointed not scoring 4 or 5.
We were on fire and nothing could stop us.
......enter the car crash :(
Still pissed off from that time. The best chance for years to get out of this division.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, September 5, 2014, 20:43:33
Spot on Reg.
Walking out of the 1-1 away draw against Bournemouth I have never felt so confident of promotion.
Beating Tranmere and Pompey 5-0 and Carlisle 4-0.
When we beat Shrewsbury 2-0 after clearing the pitch from snow I was disappointed not scoring 4 or 5.
We were on fire and nothing could stop us.
......enter the car crash :(
Still pissed off from that time. The best chance for years to get out of this division.

It's kind of what happens to us though isn't it, just when things look to be going well something throws a spanner in the works, which is why these days I just look for the small victories, and enjoy them.

Back in the dark days of the early 80's when we were struggling to get out of Div 4 playing in front of 2/3000, I was convinced that we'd end up in the top flight, because I'd seen the good years of the 60's and very early 70's, and knew how good we could be as a club. That faith proved well founded, though short lived


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Friday, September 5, 2014, 21:01:05
It's kind of what happens to us though isn't it, just when things look to be going well something throws a spanner in the works, which is why these days I just look for the small victories, and enjoy them.

Back in the dark days of the early 80's when we were struggling to get out of Div 4 playing in front of 2/3000, I was convinced that we'd end up in the top flight, because I'd seen the good years of the 60's and very early 70's, and knew how good we could be as a club. That faith proved well founded, though short lived

Standing in the TE against Darlo with the clubs lowest crowd of some 1,700 where would it end up.

Loved the late 70's v Watford (Motd) 2-1, Swansea 0-1, with the Liverpool team and then beating the Gills 3-1in the famous game :), car turned over on way back to station (shit they were the days).

Had some good times, many bad though.

TE is so crap now. Sad for the younger ones they will never witness that surge.

Still got the bruises now after Everton 2-2 with Stroud's rocket.....lucky the Parka kept my intestines intact :)
You see Reg some of us can still remember ;)
Newport away was dangerous, Burnley special mad and Carlisle special ...... Cold particularly when the Undertaker was rolled down the grass bank.
Then the cut head by a celery stick at Wigan.

Ohh shit why can't I go back in time..soapy tit wank


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Friday, September 5, 2014, 21:09:21
 :shutup: :shutup:

Plenty more to roll on....
Blackpool Red ...... With his hotel.
Swimming the canal after Chesterfield away on a Friday night called off.
Helping paint Oxford's ground.
Setting alight to Blackpool reds hair as the second half kicked off.
Car exploding due to no oil on way back from Rochdale.
Previous season at Rochdale driving away from the locals wrong way down cobbled street in a stolen Morris Minor (from mates parents).

Could write a book :)


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Friday, September 5, 2014, 22:20:05
:shutup: :shutup:

Swimming the canal after Chesterfield away on a Friday night called off.
While you were busy swimming the canal me and my mates were getting pissed awaiting their Panza Patrol and ending up kipping at the Cop Shop. It must be said the old bill were good fun and a good bunch of lads. We were bloody tired the next day when the game went ahead. 


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Friday, September 5, 2014, 23:02:12
While you were busy swimming the canal me and my mates were getting pissed awaiting their Panza Patrol and ending up kipping at the Cop Shop. It must be said the old bill were good fun and a good bunch of lads. We were bloody tired the next day when the game went ahead. 

Not proud of that night.
Got refunded with tickets claiming we came on a mini bus when we came by car.
Cashed in 10 paying for next away game claiming by letter that we couldn't make the next day.
I am a nice Man now Chalkie White :)


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, September 11, 2014, 14:37:10
Wes has just tweeted a picture of Harry Agombar, therefore confirming his existence!


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Sir Pissalot on Thursday, September 11, 2014, 15:12:16
Wes has just tweeted a picture of Harry Agombar, therefore confirming his existence!

Did it look anything like this?

(http://ts4.mm.bing.net/th?id=HN.608030561793867969&pid=1.7)


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: @mwooly63 on Thursday, September 11, 2014, 15:31:51
(http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab225/mark_woolhouse/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140911_162912_zpsba0d2dab.jpg)

Not far off


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: suttonred on Thursday, September 11, 2014, 15:55:16
Jeez, with that gettup, he'd be better off  signing for Croydon Athletic.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, September 14, 2014, 13:24:14
THE SQUAD 2014/15

GOALKEEPERS

1. Wes Foderingham (2015)
2. Nathan Thompson (2015)
3. Nathan Byrne (2015)
4. Massimo Luongo (2016)
5. Jack Stephens (Loan)
6. Jordan Turnbull (Loan)
7. Ben Gladwin (2015)
8. Yaser Kasim (2016)
9. Michael Smith (2016)
10. Andy Williams (2015)
11. Brad Smith (Loan)
12.
14. Jake Reeves (2015)
15. Josh Lelan (Loan)
16. Connor Waldon (2015)
17. Ryan Harley (2015)
18. George Barker (2015)
19. Louis Thompson (2015)
20. Jonathan Obika (2016)
21. Matty Jones (2015) - out on loan
22. Darren Ward (2015)
23. Jack Barthram (2015)
24. Curtis Da Costa (2015)
25. Tyrell Belford (2015)
26. Anton Rodgers (2015)
27. Antonio Josue (2015) - out on loan
28. Tom Smith (YTS - 1)
29. Raphael Branco (2015)
30. Harry Agombar (2015) - out on loan
31. Will Randall (YTS - 2)
32. Lee Marshall (YTS - 2)
33. Tom Holland (YTS - 2)
--. Miles Storey (2016) - out on loan

GOALKEEPER
DEFENDER
MIDFIELDER
FORWARD
WILDERNESS



Anyone know how long Obika's contract is?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, September 14, 2014, 13:34:26
Quite sure it's 2 years


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: JoeMezz on Sunday, September 14, 2014, 16:31:18
Forgotten Stephens


Title: Re:
Post by: herthab on Sunday, September 14, 2014, 16:38:51
Louis needs to be marked as a loan.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: sonicyouth on Sunday, September 14, 2014, 16:52:55
where is Agombar on loan?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: OrangeTransits on Sunday, September 14, 2014, 16:57:35
Saw him on the M25 the other night putting cones out :-)


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, September 14, 2014, 17:00:25
where is Agombar on loan?

Cooper said in the phone-in that he was off to Hereford.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, September 21, 2014, 20:16:22
....and a photograph exists of Harry Agombar playing.

(http://www.herefordtimes.com/resources/images/3271454.jpg?type=articleLandscape)

http://www.herefordtimes.com/news/11486545.Hereford_United_v_Biggleswade_Town/


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: @mwooly63 on Sunday, September 21, 2014, 20:24:37
Found his level then


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: pauld on Monday, September 22, 2014, 12:49:24
....and a photograph exists of Harry Agombar playing.

(http://www.herefordtimes.com/resources/images/3271454.jpg?type=articleLandscape)

http://www.herefordtimes.com/news/11486545.Hereford_United_v_Biggleswade_Town/
Christ, just have a read of the post-match updates on that article, and these linked ones:

http://www.herefordtimes.com/sport/11482589.Hereford_United_manager_Jon_Taylor___Agombar_doesn_t_pick_the_team__I_do_/?ref=mr
http://www.herefordtimes.com/sport/11484591.The_FA__monitoring_situation__at_Hereford_United/?ref=ar

and then think about how good it is to be moaning about the music that gets played at the County Ground


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: kerry red on Monday, September 22, 2014, 12:57:22
If he had somehow got his grubby gangster hands on us, someone would have topped him by now


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Red Frog on Monday, September 22, 2014, 14:20:28
Christ, just have a read of the post-match updates on that article, and these linked ones:

http://www.herefordtimes.com/sport/11482589.Hereford_United_manager_Jon_Taylor___Agombar_doesn_t_pick_the_team__I_do_/?ref=mr
http://www.herefordtimes.com/sport/11484591.The_FA__monitoring_situation__at_Hereford_United/?ref=ar

and then think about how good it is to be moaning about the music that gets played at the County Ground

Crikey what a mess they've been allowed to get into. If the manager asserts that Tommy Tanker's got nothing more to do with the club and he has complete freedom in team selection, how does it come to be that of all the loan players he could have taken, he felt one H Agombar was the single best option? Surely not the FA sleeping on the job?

Also, this made me smile:
Quote
However, the Royal National College for the Blind (RNC) have confirmed that the players' residential stay has ended.

Poor sods.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Saxondale on Monday, September 22, 2014, 15:24:45
Hereford are playing Chippenham at Harnish park on Saturday if anyone wants to see if he really does exist.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: FormerlyPlymRed on Monday, September 22, 2014, 16:32:42
Attendance of 339, gotta feel for them tbh


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Saxondale on Monday, September 22, 2014, 17:01:57
Actually its next tuesday, but I dont think he's getting in the squad at the moment.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, September 22, 2014, 17:30:51
Hereford are playing Chippenham at Harnish park on Saturday if anyone wants to see if he really does exist.

Michael Pook vs. Harry Agombar

The battle nobody asked for...


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: suttonred on Monday, September 22, 2014, 17:56:10
Michael Pook vs. Harry Agombar

The battle nobody asked for...

Good work.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: THE FLASH on Monday, September 22, 2014, 18:48:59
Michael Pook vs. Harry Agombar

The battle nobody asked for...

 :clap: :swordfight:


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, September 23, 2014, 11:40:53
Hereford fans want the club wound up so they can start again I beleive


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 23, 2014, 13:10:47
Hereford fans want the club wound up so they can start again I beleive
And many are boycotting games too apparently.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: kerry red on Tuesday, September 23, 2014, 13:34:57
But why?

Tommy Agombar is a football man, don't you know!


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, September 23, 2014, 14:24:20
I wonder how many now think we should have kept hold of Storey


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, September 23, 2014, 14:33:23
I wonder how many now think we should have kept hold of Storey

Set up one of those poll things, that are all the rage for finding out the answers to the key issues of our time.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, September 25, 2014, 10:05:01
Mass Luongo and Brad Smith are in the Aussie squad for their games versus UAE and Qatar next month.

That gets in the way of Preston (H). Ugh.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, September 25, 2014, 10:11:02
Mass Luongo and Brad Smith are in the Aussie squad for their games versus UAE and Qatar next month.

That gets in the way of Preston (H). Ugh.

The Middle East may have triggered a descent in to WWIII by then....so we could get away with it.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: THE FLASH on Thursday, September 25, 2014, 10:13:33
Set up one of those poll things, that are all the rage for finding out the answers to the key issues of our time.

I still say yes.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: tans on Thursday, September 25, 2014, 10:19:59
Mass Luongo and Brad Smith are in the Aussie squad for their games versus UAE and Qatar next month.

That gets in the way of Preston (H). Ugh.

Do Iraq have a freindly around this time aswell do we know?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: reeves4england on Thursday, September 25, 2014, 12:05:49
Do Iraq have a freindly around this time aswell do we know?

Yes, they do. I imagine Preston will have the game called off themselves anyway.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: tans on Thursday, September 25, 2014, 12:38:16
Yes, they do. I imagine Preston will have the game called off themselves anyway.

game off then


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: singingiiiffy on Thursday, September 25, 2014, 14:59:39
preston have a potential 7 call ups. So pretty much 100% called off


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: kerry red on Thursday, September 25, 2014, 15:01:10
Fuckity fuck.

I'll have to go to Orient now


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, September 25, 2014, 15:25:48
Do Iraq have a freindly around this time aswell do we know?

I don't suppose it will be at home...because Iraq is about to get bombed back to the before the Middle Ages.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: kerry red on Thursday, September 25, 2014, 15:31:52
They'll probably pop next door to Syria


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, September 25, 2014, 15:39:00
preston have a potential 7 call ups. So pretty much 100% called off

Excellent, so looks like I'll not be missing any home games when I'm in India now! :)


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: kerry red on Thursday, September 25, 2014, 17:38:25
Slave Traders is on an international weekend, too


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Power to people on Friday, September 26, 2014, 12:02:05
Shall we just mark of the fixtures now that will be moved due to internationals

Whare are Iraq & Aussies playing they home games, are Aussies still playing at QPR ?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Red Frog on Friday, September 26, 2014, 12:23:11
Last one was at Craven Cottage.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: @mwooly63 on Friday, September 26, 2014, 13:20:41
TOWN have signed Birmingham City defender Amari'i Bell on loan until January.

The 20-year-old is eligible for Swindon's fixture at Barnsley tomorrow afternoon.

Bell will wear squad number 12 during his time at The CG.

Read more at http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/article/bellsignonloan-1967399.aspx#bFxVX5AP877hU4Iq.99


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Processed Beats on Friday, September 26, 2014, 13:22:31
That's a bit out of the blue.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Samdy Gray on Friday, September 26, 2014, 13:26:10
So Stephens' injury is worse than expected? Or is this to cover Lelan going back to Derby?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: @mwooly63 on Friday, September 26, 2014, 13:32:45
Not sure
Sam just tweeted

Quote
Amari'i Bell is the 'trialist' who was with Swindon Town at Newport

Anyone listen to linksports podcast ?
Cooper explained in there why he was at WBA v Hull the other day
Will have to find it and have a listen

EDIT
https://soundcloud.com/linksport/cooperpress25914_mixdown

Was there just to watch football - boooo


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Processed Beats on Friday, September 26, 2014, 13:37:10
Ah, he's a left back. Supposedly cover for B. Smith, who has a knock apparently. Makes sense.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Power to people on Friday, September 26, 2014, 14:25:29
I wonder if this is with a view to permanent, bit odd to sign a player on loan that may not get a game if smith keeps improving and stays fit


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, September 26, 2014, 14:33:57
 Rogue apostrophe  :(


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: suttonred on Friday, September 26, 2014, 14:45:52
I wonder if this is with a view to permanent, bit odd to sign a player on loan that may not get a game if smith keeps improving and stays fit
It will also to do with potentially Smith being away with the OZ team In January I would have thought as well.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: dphunt88 on Friday, September 26, 2014, 15:41:16
Young Town defender Curtis Da Costa has joined Bognor Regis Town (Ryman Premier League) on loan. He made his debut on Tuesday night against Metropolitan Police.

http://nonleague.pitchero.com/news/rocks-borrow-swindon-defender-34085/


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Frigby Daser on Friday, September 26, 2014, 16:20:31
We're very lopsided without cover on the left. I know we have Lee Marshall, but there's nothing to say he's ready. Get Bell up to speed with what we do before he might be needed for a prolonged spell in the side - and hopefully keep Smith on his toes.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, October 9, 2014, 11:46:50
Still plenty of contract negotiations ahead... and a fair few who won't be invited to discuss their Town futures.


THE SQUAD 2014/15

GOALKEEPERS

1. Wes Foderingham (2015)
2. Nathan Thompson (2017)
3. Nathan Byrne (2015)
4. Massimo Luongo (2016)
5. Jack Stephens (Loan)
6. Jordan Turnbull (Loan)
7. Ben Gladwin (2015)
8. Yaser Kasim (2016)
9. Michael Smith (2016)
10. Andy Williams (2015)
11. Brad Smith (Loan)
12. Amari'i Bell (Loan)
14. Jake Reeves (2015)
15. Josh Lelan (Loan)
16. Connor Waldon (2015)
17. Ryan Harley (2015)
18. George Barker (2015)
19. Louis Thompson (Loan)
20. Jonathan Obika
21. Matty Jones (2015) - out on loan
22. Darren Ward (2015)
23. Jack Barthram (2015)
24. Curtis Da Costa (2015)
25. Tyrell Belford (2015)
26. Anton Rodgers (2015)
27. Antonio Josue (2015) - out on loan
28. Tom Smith (YTS - 1)
29. Raphael Branco (2015)
30. Harry Agombar (2015) - out on loan
31. Will Randall (YTS - 2)
32. Lee Marshall (YTS - 2)
33. Tom Holland (YTS - 2)
--. Miles Storey (2016) - out on loan

GOALKEEPER
DEFENDER
MIDFIELDER
FORWARD
WILDERNESS


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Saturday, October 11, 2014, 02:46:11
Where are Josue & Jones on loan to, do we know?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: hobnob on Saturday, October 11, 2014, 05:28:20
Morocco asking for tournament to be postponed due to Ebola outbreak. Every cloud has a silver lining I guess ( joking), at least the Iraqi Pirlo can stay if we haven't flogged him by then!


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: brocklesby red on Saturday, October 11, 2014, 06:18:32
Morocco asking for tournament to be postponed due to Ebola outbreak. Every cloud has a silver lining I guess ( joking), at least the Iraqi Pirlo can stay if we haven't flogged him by then!
Except that Yasser and Mass will be involved in the Asian cup which will be held in Australia


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Sir Pissalot on Saturday, October 11, 2014, 08:20:19
Mass and Brad Smith both got some game time in last night´s game against UAE:

http://www.socceroos.com.au/matchcentre/United-Arab-Emirates-v-Australia/769752#widget-match-day-tabs


Iraq drew 1-1 with Yemen last night but I can't find any match details yet.  This match 'report' is very informative though:

http://www.iraqinews.com/sports/friendly-match-iraq-yemen-end-with-tie/


Title: Re: Sv: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, October 11, 2014, 10:15:33
Where are Josue & Jones on loan to, do we know?
Wantage I think


Title: Re: Sv: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, October 11, 2014, 10:15:49
Where are Josue & Jones on loan to, do we know?
Wantage I think


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Saturday, October 11, 2014, 14:31:19
Barker starts for Tranmere. Currently 1-0 down.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, October 11, 2014, 14:45:24
Barker starts for Tranmere. Currently 1-0 down.
With Brez in goal for that extra ex Town link.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Nemo on Monday, October 20, 2014, 10:02:50
Brad Smiff's been recalled by Liverpool.

No reason given, unhappy about Bell or some sort of injury?

The main problem for us is that you need three callups to get a game cancelled right? Playing without Yasser and Massimo would be a real problem.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Honkytonk on Monday, October 20, 2014, 10:10:01
Brad Smiff's been recalled by Liverpool.

No reason given, unhappy about Bell or some sort of injury?

The main problem for us is that you need three callups to get a game cancelled right? Playing without Yasser and Massimo would be a real problem.

Cock, that can't have come at a worse time really, as with Branco injured, Thompson suspended and Bell being a little bit shit on Saturday and at Plymouth, we're suddenly a bit bereft at the back.

Maybe Smith's been recalled to replace Balotelli up front?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Tails on Monday, October 20, 2014, 10:11:21
Brad Smiff's been recalled by Liverpool.

No reason given, unhappy about Bell or some sort of injury?

The main problem for us is that you need three callups to get a game cancelled right? Playing without Yasser and Massimo would be a real problem.

Do we get compensation for that? As it was a season loan?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: lambourn red on Monday, October 20, 2014, 10:11:46
Brad Smiff's been recalled by Liverpool.

No reason given, unhappy about Bell or some sort of injury?

The main problem for us is that you need three callups to get a game cancelled right? Playing without Yasser and Massimo would be a real problem.

Yes we now currently face the possibility of Bristol City at home without Kasim and Luongo. Lad I know spoke with Lee Power last weekend in the George in Lambourn he was there with Sean Curran who trains his horses, he told him that it looked like Liverpool were going to recall Smith due to not starting. Another interesting thing he said was Luke Williams had been approached by Tottenham to run the Academy but the club were trying there best to keep him.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: JayBox325 on Monday, October 20, 2014, 10:21:31
Thought I'd check out this thread today... wish I hadn't.  :badmood:

The wheels are coming off... :P

I wonder if Yas will say no to Iraq again to help us out?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Swindon Please Win on Monday, October 20, 2014, 10:23:23
He had played every game but then got a injury and his replacement had a couple of good games, seems a very harsh decision by Liverpool unless they actually want to play him. Seeing how bad their defence was yesterday it wouldn't surprise me.

Screws us now because we'll have games without Kasim and Luongo.


Title: Re:
Post by: Batch on Monday, October 20, 2014, 10:34:53
Cock. That is all.

Losing L Williams would probably be a disaster too.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Samdy Gray on Monday, October 20, 2014, 10:34:53
That's a bit shit.

Youth loan rules must allow a recall then, because standard season long loans can't be recalled.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Riddick on Monday, October 20, 2014, 10:35:13
I don't blame Liverpool for recalling him. They send them out on loan to play not to sit on the bench. We should be aware of this in my opinion.

As everyone else says this screws us for the Bristol City game, or at least make's it much more difficult.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, October 20, 2014, 10:45:55
We should be aware of this in my opinion.


Do you think they were not aware of it? Were they to play Smith out of fear of him being recalled when we have Bell whom is, by all accounts, the better player?



Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: JayBox325 on Monday, October 20, 2014, 10:54:32
I don't blame Liverpool for recalling him. They send them out on loan to play not to sit on the bench. We should be aware of this in my opinion.

As everyone else says this screws us for the Bristol City game, or at least make's it much more difficult.

Not entirely fair. He had an injury which made him miss a few games then came back from playing with the Socceroos and missed one game, which for all we know could be down to tiredness or a small knock.

This is definitely unfair from Liverpool, unless they want to chuck him in the first team. I wonder who we'll get in to replace him. I wonder if Liverpool will think "we have kinda screwed them there, let's send them <name> to fill Brad's spot for now"... we can dream.


Title: Re:
Post by: Batch on Monday, October 20, 2014, 11:00:11
If teams want a 'play him or else will recall him' clause in untested players loan contracts they can fuck off.

The biggest loss here isn't the player, but our ability to call off games in international weekends.

Smith may be great one day, if he can learn to cross,  but he's not an automatic pick and not should he be. That's the point of competition for places.

Time for barthram to prove himself.

Now watch us find out smith is injured :)


Title: Re:
Post by: JayBox325 on Monday, October 20, 2014, 11:07:40
If teams want a 'play him or else will recall him' clause in untested players loan contracts they can fuck off.

The biggest loss here isn't the player, but our ability to call off games in international weekends.

Smith may be great one day, if he can learn to cross,  but he's not an automatic pick and not should he be. That's the point of competition for places.

Time for barthram to prove himself.

Well said ^

Barthram has shown some moments of brilliance in the past, so we should give him a runout. My formation for Rochdale would be:

Up front: Williams, Obika
Bell, L. Thompson, Luongo, Gladwin
Kasim
Turnbull, Stephens, Byrne

Louis seemed to slot in at right-back temporarily against Yeovil and seemed to hold his own. But the main question is would you be happy to drop Byrne back into his old Left back position or putting Barthram in that position?

But with Byrne that far back, Gladwin & Yaser would have to be very aware of filling in that position when Byrne goes up.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, October 20, 2014, 11:08:34
Smith was muck when I watched him. I haven't seen this Bell guy but he sounds better overall.

As Batch says he was key to international call offs which is a bummer.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, October 20, 2014, 11:13:21
We still have Reeves, Gladwin and Rodgers to step up. While we may not be as strong as we otherwise would be, we're not exactly left with a poor midfield.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: JayBox325 on Monday, October 20, 2014, 11:15:51
We still have Reeves, Gladwin and Rodgers to step up. While we may not be as strong as we otherwise would be, we're not exactly left with a poor midfield.

They look good. But still relatively untested. Reeves looks really good, Gladwin on his day could be the first name on the teamsheet...

It's just we're going to have to drop them all into the squad at the same time. I'd be happy if it was just one midfielder to be replaced, but both our strongest midfielders is what's making me nervous.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, October 20, 2014, 11:22:58
We still have Reeves, Gladwin and Rodgers to step up. While we may not be as strong as we otherwise would be, we're not exactly left with a poor midfield.

I prefer to get on with it...chance for these lads to step up and claim a place.  In the long run don't think postponements do you any good....we've had more than enough already.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: JayBox325 on Monday, October 20, 2014, 11:26:48
Is this the time we go back to Derby

"Hey, you know that Lelan guy... we've sent him back to you twice cause we don't think he's all that. Can we have him back for a bit please."


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Honkytonk on Monday, October 20, 2014, 11:30:33
Gladwin can fill in on the left, as proved against Yeovil at the weekend. Byrne can play there but he's much better marauding down the right. Could even play Gladwin in Nathan's role actually, he's a unit and can pick a pass pretty bloody well. Mind you, sticking someone that young and with that little first team experience in that position might end in disaster.

Losing Mass and Yas at the same time could completely scupper our season. They're the hinge of the team. Reeves is good, Gladwin's good, haven't seen much/anything of Rogers personally, but as others have said, if we're having to stick practically untested players into the first team because of injury and internationals it's hardly great. Especially over winter, which is probably going to be the toughest part of the season with our style of play.

Time for the yoof to step up!


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: kerry red on Monday, October 20, 2014, 12:16:50
We were always going to lose Yas and Mass for the whole of January anyway.

Neither have, IMO, been at the top of their game lately.

Wouldn't bother me overly to go with Gladwin and Reeves against City


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: JayBox325 on Monday, October 20, 2014, 12:22:46
We were always going to lose Yas and Mass for the whole of January anyway.

Neither have, IMO, been at the top of their game lately.

Wouldn't bother me overly to go with Gladwin and Reeves against City

I like this. You do make a good point. But my main issue with losing them is that Massimo and Byrne link up like they're sharing the same brain and Yaser just has a presence in midfield that adds a lot regardless of his performance. But saying that, I remember a few times in the Yeovil game he lost the ball in bad places... not to mention at the end he was clear for a shot but decided to do skill and got himself in a non-shooting position.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Nemo on Monday, October 20, 2014, 12:27:26
We were always going to lose Yas and Mass for the whole of January anyway.

Neither have, IMO, been at the top of their game lately.

Wouldn't bother me overly to go with Gladwin and Reeves against City

if Massimo and Kasim start, we have Reeves and Gladwin on the bench as impact subs.

If Reeves and Gladwin start, we have Rogers and Marshall. Wouldn't fancy much impact off the bench from them.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: kerry red on Monday, October 20, 2014, 12:32:35
Yas and Mass haven't ever been subbed this season as far as I can recall


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Monday, October 20, 2014, 12:33:30
Hopefully Louis will break into the Welsh squad soon so we'll have our 3rd international back!!!


Title: Re: Re: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Batch on Monday, October 20, 2014, 12:37:44
Yas and Mass haven't ever been subbed this season as far as I can recall
Pretty sure mas has but not yas ....


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Quagmire on Monday, October 20, 2014, 12:41:59
Going into a game against a side who are top the league and unbeaten without 2 key players is a bit shit, I've no doubt Reeves and Gladwin could do a job, but they're not quite Kasim and Luongo are they?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: JayBox325 on Monday, October 20, 2014, 12:48:07
It wouldn't surprise me if Cooper subs Yas or Mass or both in a lot of games between now and January...

Get Reeves, Gladwin & Rodgers some first team gametime ready for them to takeover.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Power to people on Monday, October 20, 2014, 12:56:28
We will have to deal with them going of to the interntional cups during january anyway so time to either raid the loan market or hope the others step up to the plate


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Summerof69 on Monday, October 20, 2014, 14:10:10
Yas and Mass haven't ever been subbed this season as far as I can recall

Mass got subbed against Sheff Utd.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, October 20, 2014, 17:16:03
THE SQUAD 2014/15

GOALKEEPERS

1. Wes Foderingham (2015)
2. Nathan Thompson (2017)
3. Nathan Byrne (2015)
4. Massimo Luongo (2016)
5. Jack Stephens (Loan)
6. Jordan Turnbull (Loan)
7. Ben Gladwin (2015)
8. Yaser Kasim (2016)
9. Michael Smith (2016)
10. Andy Williams (2015)
11.
12. Amari'i Bell (Loan)
14. Jake Reeves (2015)
15. Harry Toffolo (Loan)
16. Connor Waldon (2015)
17. Ryan Harley (2015)
18. George Barker (2015) - out on loan
19. Louis Thompson (Loan)
20. Jonathan Obika
21. Matty Jones (2015)
22. Darren Ward (2015)
23. Jack Barthram (2015)
24. Curtis Da Costa (2015) - out on loan
25. Tyrell Belford (2015)
26. Anton Rodgers (2015)
27. Antonio Josue (2015) - out on loan
28. Tom Smith (YTS - 1)
29. Raphael Branco (2015)
30. Harry Agombar (2015)
31. Will Randall (YTS - 2)
32. Lee Marshall (YTS - 2)
33. Tom Holland (YTS - 2)
--. Miles Storey (2016) - out on loan

GOALKEEPER
DEFENDER
MIDFIELDER
FORWARD
WILDERNESS


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: JayBox325 on Monday, October 20, 2014, 21:11:53
THE SQUAD 2014/15

GOALKEEPERS

1. Wes Foderingham (2015)
2. Nathan Thompson (2017)
3. Nathan Byrne (2015)
4. Massimo Luongo (2016)
5. Jack Stephens (Loan)
6. Jordan Turnbull (Loan)
7. Ben Gladwin (2015)
8. Yaser Kasim (2016)
9. Michael Smith (2016)
10. Andy Williams (2015)
11.
12. Amari'i Bell (Loan)
14. Jake Reeves (2015)
15. Harry Toffolo (Loan)
16. Connor Waldon (2015)
17. Ryan Harley (2015)
18. George Barker (2015)
19. Louis Thompson (Loan)
20. Jonathan Obika
21. Matty Jones (2015) - out on loan
22. Darren Ward (2015)
23. Jack Barthram (2015)
24. Curtis Da Costa (2015)
25. Tyrell Belford (2015)
26. Anton Rodgers (2015)
27. Antonio Josue (2015) - out on loan
28. Tom Smith (YTS - 1)
29. Raphael Branco (2015)
30. Harry Agombar (2015) - out on loan
31. Will Randall (YTS - 2)
32. Lee Marshall (YTS - 2)
33. Tom Holland (YTS - 2)
--. Miles Storey (2016) - out on loan

GOALKEEPER
DEFENDER
MIDFIELDER
FORWARD
WILDERNESS


* George Barker is out on loan
* I wouldn't quite say Miles Storey is in the Wilderness though.
* Da Costa is out on loan

:)


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, October 20, 2014, 22:25:55
* I wouldn't quite say Miles Storey is in the Wilderness though.

I disagree. I'm convinced that Cooper/Power don't rate him.

My opinion is based on nothing. It's gone very quiet for him at Portsmouth too.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Honkytonk on Monday, October 20, 2014, 23:48:04
Hopefully Louis will break into the Welsh squad soon so we'll have our 3rd international back!!!

Perhaps we should go break Gareth Bale's legs?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: JayBox325 on Tuesday, October 21, 2014, 08:47:11
I disagree. I'm convinced that Cooper/Power don't rate him.

My opinion is based on nothing. It's gone very quiet for him at Portsmouth too.

Yeah, that's cool. But he's still a recognised striker. Apparently his confidence is shot at Pompey... :(


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, October 21, 2014, 12:25:27
* George Barker is out on loan
* I wouldn't quite say Miles Storey is in the Wilderness though.
* Da Costa is out on loan

:)

Obika signed a 2.5 year deal



Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Wednesday, October 22, 2014, 07:08:10
Apologies if this has been posted elsewhere, but this sheds some light on recall of Brad Smith. And suggests we may get him back?

@JamesPearceEcho: Brad Smith was recalled from Swindon by #LFC over contract issues. Until he signs a new deal the club won't send him back out on loan.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Honkytonk on Wednesday, October 22, 2014, 09:22:01
Apologies if this has been posted elsewhere, but this sheds some light on recall of Brad Smith. And suggests we may get him back?

@JamesPearceEcho: Brad Smith was recalled from Swindon by #LFC over contract issues. Until he signs a new deal the club won't send him back out on loan.

Oh, well that's positive I suppose. Still, bit of a stinker to do that when we're down players anyway and have Tuesday/Saturday etc. games. Couldn't he get a couple of days off training to go and sort it out? Or couldn't some people come down here from Liverpool to do the same? Why does he have to go back?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, October 22, 2014, 12:06:50
Oh, well that's positive I suppose. Still, bit of a stinker to do that when we're down players anyway and have Tuesday/Saturday etc. games. Couldn't he get a couple of days off training to go and sort it out? Or couldn't some people come down here from Liverpool to do the same? Why does he have to go back?
Because reading that quote the implication is that the reason for the recall isn't so much to ensure he's physically present as to pressure him into signing a new deal - "Sign or you don't play" kind of thing. Presumably because they want a fee for him, or at least the prospect of getting one, when he does move


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: tans on Saturday, October 25, 2014, 08:09:55
Waldon joins maidenhead on loan


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: @mwooly63 on Saturday, October 25, 2014, 12:19:21
Lee Marshall signed pro deal


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, November 3, 2014, 14:43:02
George Barker's loan at Tranmere has been terminated but he can't play in the Cup due to the loan agreement.

Sounds like he'll probably go out on loan somewhere soon though according to Cooper.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Power to people on Monday, November 3, 2014, 14:45:32
George Barker's loan at Tranmere has been terminated but he can't play in the Cup due to the loan agreement.

Sounds like he'll probably go out on loan somewhere soon though according to Cooper.

Decided he was crap so returned him to us


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, November 3, 2014, 14:53:01
Decided he was crap so returned him to us

Not strictly true. Micky Adams took over 1 match into his loan and wanted to use his own contracted players.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Swindon Please Win on Thursday, November 20, 2014, 18:30:52
Branco set to sign a two year extension, and what's happened with Jake Reeves? seemed he was set to sign weeks ago.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, November 20, 2014, 18:32:00
Branco set to sign a two year extension, and what's happened with Jake Reeves? seemed he was set to sign weeks ago.

Well, he's not playing. Perhaps all parties are waiting on Luongo/Kasim.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, November 20, 2014, 18:56:04
Branco set to sign a two year extension, and what's happened with Jake Reeves? seemed he was set to sign weeks ago.

Getting shot of Harley should help.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Processed Beats on Tuesday, November 25, 2014, 09:18:27
Toffolo's loan extended until the end of the season. Great news.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, November 25, 2014, 09:20:31
Fantastic.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: JayBox325 on Tuesday, November 25, 2014, 09:23:04
Branco set to sign a two year extension, and what's happened with Jake Reeves? seemed he was set to sign weeks ago.

Great news about Branco, but with Reeves I think because he's not getting any game time he's holding out to see if that changes. Which is fair enough, he looks to be a talented player.

Toffolo's loan extended until the end of the season. Great news.

This is also great news. I really rate Toffolo. Hopefully we'll have the chance of keeping him if we go up.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Honkytonk on Tuesday, November 25, 2014, 09:26:35
Woop woop!


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, November 25, 2014, 09:56:33
What looks like a consistent left back who seems to be solid at the back and isn't too shabby going forward (definitely improving as he gets more confident). Happy with this.



Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: JanTheMan on Tuesday, November 25, 2014, 10:05:41
Gruffalo looked very good on Saturday.  Great bit of business.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: JayBox325 on Tuesday, November 25, 2014, 10:07:52
The thing that's so nice about him signing for the rest of the season is, if you follow him on Twitter, you'll see he loves the club, he loves the boys he's playing with and loves playing this style of football. So it's a positive signing all around.

Even his Mum Retweets tweets about him from some of the fans.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, November 25, 2014, 10:21:12
he loves the boys he's playing with

Ohh err


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: JayBox325 on Tuesday, November 25, 2014, 10:25:38
Ohh err

 :poofs:


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: JayBox325 on Tuesday, November 25, 2014, 10:57:18
Anyway, maybe it's time we try and make a song from this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZfEIX2lhlI


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: JoeMezz on Tuesday, November 25, 2014, 12:08:50
Anyway, maybe it's time we try and make a song from this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZfEIX2lhlI

I prefer Toffolo soldier!


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: JayBox325 on Tuesday, November 25, 2014, 12:29:50
I prefer Toffolo soldier!

That works too! Either way, we need a song ;).


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, November 25, 2014, 12:46:49
I prefer Toffolo soldier!

Just a Toffolo Soldier,
From the heart of East Anglia...


never gonna catch on..


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Honkytonk on Tuesday, November 25, 2014, 14:41:18
Just a Toffolo Soldier,
From the heart of East Anglia...


never gonna catch on..

Surely...

Toffolo Soldier,
in the heart of Wilt-shire,
loaned from Anglia,
Toffolo soldier...


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, November 25, 2014, 15:30:07
The only people likely to start that are jayo and his boys, and they will routinely get shouted down by others in the town end. As is the norm.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: JayBox325 on Tuesday, November 25, 2014, 16:01:06
The only people likely to start that are jayo and his boys, and they will routinely get shouted down by others in the town end. As is the norm.

That's so shit that happens.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, November 25, 2014, 16:39:47
Also that song is shit.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: donkey on Tuesday, November 25, 2014, 16:45:31
Gruffalo looked very good on Saturday.  Great bit of business.

He sure did, and it sure is.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: kerry red on Tuesday, November 25, 2014, 17:29:48
Surely...

Toffolo Soldier,
in the heart of Wilt-shire,
loaned from Anglia,
Toffolo soldier...

Toffolo girls go round the outside


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Bogus Dave on Tuesday, November 25, 2014, 21:22:26
If you wanna get with me
There's some things you gotta know
I like my beats fast
and my Toffolo


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, November 25, 2014, 23:12:33
Something working Toffolo into Go With The Flow by QOTSA.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Honkytonk on Tuesday, November 25, 2014, 23:20:54
If you wanna get with me
There's some things you gotta know
I like my beats fast
and my Toffolo

That's fucking worse than mine.

Take a bow.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Ells on Wednesday, November 26, 2014, 00:18:49
Something working Toffolo into Go With The Flow by QOTSA.

They said we'll never win the league,
They're just youngsters after all
We don't know who owns the club
Some guy from Peterborough does

We play the game
Just like it should be played
Elliot was a clear reeed

We can go
With the loans
We keep believing in the reds
And we can win
With toffolo
We'll keep believing til the end

(I assure you all I am suitably ashamed of myself)


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: kerry red on Wednesday, November 26, 2014, 05:29:11
Blimey! Bit too impressive for the TE


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, November 26, 2014, 06:45:57
Surely it would be something with gruffalo in? After all that's his name I'm sure, as I heard it on the tv..


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: JayBox325 on Wednesday, November 26, 2014, 11:32:55
They said we'll never win the league,
They're just youngsters after all
We don't know who owns the club
Some guy from Peterborough does

We play the game
Just like it should be played
Elliot was a clear reeed

We can go
With the loans
We keep believing in the reds
And we can win
With toffolo
We'll keep believing til the end

(I assure you all I am suitably ashamed of myself)

That's bloody impressive. Although, I'm not sure how the Town End would be able to pull it off hahaha.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, November 26, 2014, 11:38:22
They said we'll never win the league,
They're just youngsters after all
We don't know who owns the club
Some guy from Peterborough does

We play the game
Just like it should be played
Elliot was a clear reeed

We can go
With the loans
We keep believing in the reds
And we can win
With toffolo
We'll keep believing til the end

(I assure you all I am suitably ashamed of myself)

Fair play that worked a lot better than I expected it to.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: JayBox325 on Wednesday, November 26, 2014, 12:06:09
Fair play that worked a lot better than I expected it to.

Did you stop and listen to it and read it in your head, too?  :sherlock:


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Ells on Friday, November 28, 2014, 22:26:48
Haha thanks guys. I figured I might as well be ambitious as getting even a simple new chant off the ground is nigh on impossible anyway..

On another note Harley came off the bench for Exeter today and played I quote "ok" for a bit. Belongs in the ex player thread perhaps :hmmm:


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: tans on Friday, November 28, 2014, 22:35:01
He's fucking shit


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Ells on Friday, November 28, 2014, 22:39:01
He's fucking shit

There isn't a "he's fucking shit" thread tans

Leave that to the Exeter board.. They've also signed Clinton Morrison  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, December 13, 2014, 14:59:10
Sounds like contract wars with Raphael Branco will end his time at Swindon.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: otanswell on Saturday, December 13, 2014, 15:48:07
Sounds like contract wars with Raphael Branco will end his time at Swindon.

He's not all that anyway


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, December 16, 2014, 18:26:55
Updated*

THE SQUAD 2014/15

FIRST TEAM PLAYERS

1. Wes Foderingham (2015)
2. Nathan Thompson (2017)
3. Nathan Byrne (2015)
4. Massimo Luongo (2016)
7. Ben Gladwin (2017)
8. Yaser Kasim (2016)
9. Michael Smith (2016)
10. Andy Williams (2015)
11.
14. Jake Reeves (January 2015)
20. Jonathan Obika (2016)
25. Tyrell Belford (2015)
26. Anton Rodgers (2015)

LOAN PLAYERS

5. Jack Stephens (January)
6. Jordan Turnbull (May)
12. Amari'i Bell (January)
19. Louis Thompson (May)
15. Harry Toffolo (May)

FRINGE PLAYERS

16. Connor Waldon (2015) - out on loan
18. George Barker (2015)
21. Matty Jones (2015)
23. Jack Barthram (2015)
24. Curtis Da Costa (2015)
28. Tom Smith (YTS - 1)
31. Will Randall (YTS - 2)
32. Lee Marshall (2016)
33. Tom Holland (YTS - 2)

WILDNERNESS

17. Ryan Harley (2015) - out on loan
22. Darren Ward (2015)
27. Antonio Josue (2015) - out on loan
29. Raphael Branco (2015)
30. Harry Agombar (2015)
--. Miles Storey (2016) - out on loan

GOALKEEPER
DEFENDER
MIDFIELDER
FORWARD
WILDERNESS


* There maybe some errors.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, December 28, 2014, 14:29:25
Jake Reeves is leaving tomorrow then.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: DRS on Sunday, December 28, 2014, 14:31:32
Ah well


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, December 28, 2014, 14:40:02
Jake Reeves is leaving tomorrow then.
Shame as he is good cover but not shock, he needs to be getting more game time.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Nemo on Sunday, December 28, 2014, 14:44:55
Strange that he'd leave just as two midfielders disappear for a month but perhaps he has an offer. Think he'll do well for someone, just happens to be in one of our strongest positions


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, December 28, 2014, 14:51:06
Strange that he'd leave just as two midfielders disappear for a month but perhaps he has an offer. Think he'll do well for someone, just happens to be in one of our strongest positions
He has an offer closer to his home too apparently and one that promised him first team games.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Sunday, December 28, 2014, 14:52:48
I think AFC Wimbledon wanted him


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Batch on Sunday, December 28, 2014, 17:52:53
Strange that he'd leave just as two midfielders disappear for a month but perhaps he has an offer. Think he'll do well for someone, just happens to be in one of our strongest positions

Not that strange, he's behind Gladwin and Louis, even if he gets a bit of game time in rotation he's back to square 1 when Mas and Kas return. Good luck to him.

Oh yeah, Anton Rogers and even Stephens can play mid too.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: singingiiiffy on Sunday, December 28, 2014, 18:49:44
If I have heard right he has an offer from afc Wimbledon


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Red Frog on Sunday, December 28, 2014, 18:56:00
Not that strange, he's behind Gladwin and Louis, even if he gets a bit of game time in rotation he's back to square 1 when Mas and Kas return. Good luck to him.

Oh yeah, Anton Rogers and even Stephens can play mid too.

Even Stephens? From what I hear, it might be his best position.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: donkey on Sunday, December 28, 2014, 22:12:29
Even Stephens? From what I hear, it might be his best position.

He played ok there when I saw him (against Fleetwood), but he moved the ball a lot slower than Kasim and didn't get open to receive the pass as often either.  Just to confirm, this is isn't a criticism as Kasim is one of our very best players, just an observation.  I expect Stephens to be holding midlfielder for most of Jan, and he'll be fine.  He's just not as good there as Kasim.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Red Frog on Sunday, December 28, 2014, 22:54:24
He played ok there when I saw him (against Fleetwood), but he moved the ball a lot slower than Kasim and didn't get open to receive the pass as often either.  Just to confirm, this is isn't a criticism as Kasim is one of our very best players, just an observation.  I expect Stephens to be holding midlfielder for most of Jan, and he'll be fine.  He's just not as good there as Kasim.

Understood. I just remember people praising him highly in that position one game - maybe that one.

Given that the only games I've seen this season have been Rochdale and Colchester, I'm at a loss to know how we've won any.


Title: Re:
Post by: Frigby Daser on Sunday, December 28, 2014, 22:56:38
Miles Storey tweets a picture of himself playing for us saying "you never know what's round the corner in football". I'd be very surprised if we take him back, but I suppose it's feasible that they send him back unwanted.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: singingiiiffy on Sunday, December 28, 2014, 23:29:16
Miles Storey tweets a picture of himself playing for us saying "you never know what's round the corner in football". I'd be very surprised if we take him back, but I suppose it's feasible that they send him back unwanted.

Without any doubt I would have him back here as our 4th striker. No one likes playing against pace in the last few mins of a match.


Title: Re:
Post by: @mwooly63 on Sunday, December 28, 2014, 23:43:07
Miles Storey tweets a picture of himself playing for us saying "you never know what's round the corner in football". I'd be very surprised if we take him back, but I suppose it's feasible that they send him back unwanted.

He tweeted after was just an old pic he found and meant nothing by it is not coming back


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: kerry red on Monday, December 29, 2014, 16:54:44
Rumour has it we have signed an as yet unnamed midfielder.

Young (quelle surprise!) with limited FL experience


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, December 29, 2014, 16:59:19
Rumour has it we have signed an as yet unnamed midfielder.

Young (quelle surprise!) with limited FL experience

sauce?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: kerry red on Monday, December 29, 2014, 17:02:38
Moosehead's twitter

Should be players x 2


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: horlock07 on Sunday, January 4, 2015, 15:19:29
I assume that Tom Smith came through the ranks... warming up yesterday that lad is proper ginger!


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Abrahammer on Sunday, January 4, 2015, 15:28:09
That must be the kid who got a callup to the bench for the first game of the season when someone was injured in warmup.

He has definately drawn the short straw with that strong shade of ginger, at least he has something going for him with football talent.



Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, January 12, 2015, 14:20:42
Harleys contract is cancelled then. And Da costa leaves


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Monday, January 12, 2015, 15:33:08
Good.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, January 12, 2015, 15:34:05
Harleys contract is cancelled then. And Da costa leaves

And he has signed for Exeter permanently.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, January 12, 2015, 17:05:10
THE SQUAD 2014/15

FIRST TEAM PLAYERS

1. Wes Foderingham (2015)
2. Nathan Thompson (2017)
3. Nathan Byrne (2015)
4. Massimo Luongo (2016) - AFC Asian Cup duty
7. Ben Gladwin (2017)
8. Yaser Kasim (2016) - AFC Asian Cup duty
9. Michael Smith (2016)
10. Andy Williams (2015) - Negotiations?
20. Jonathan Obika (2016)
24. Jermaine Hylton (2017)
25. Tyrell Belford (2015)
26. Anton Rodgers (2015)
29. Raphael Branco (2017)

LOAN PLAYERS

5. Jack Stephens (January)
6. Jordan Turnbull (May)
14. John Swift (May)
19. Louis Thompson (May)
15. Harry Toffolo (May)

FRINGE PLAYERS

16. Connor Waldon (2015) - out on loan
18. George Barker (2015)
21. Matty Jones (2015) - out on loan
23. Jack Barthram (2015)
28. Tom Smith (YTS - 1)
31. Will Randall (YTS - 2)
32. Lee Marshall (2016)
33. Tom Holland (YTS - 2)

WILDNERNESS

22. Darren Ward (2015) - out on loan
27. Antonio Josue (2015) - out on loan
30. Harry Agombar (2015) - God only knows
--. Miles Storey (2016) - Looking to loan out

GOALKEEPER
DEFENDER
MIDFIELDER
FORWARD
WILDERNESS


* There maybe some errors.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: kerry red on Monday, January 12, 2015, 17:13:21
What about the new fella


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: JayBox325 on Monday, January 12, 2015, 17:16:34
What about the new fella

Jermaine Hylton is number 24.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Barry Scott on Monday, January 12, 2015, 17:22:58
Great news that Harley's gone. I don't think I've ever disliked a player as much as him. Made Prutton look like Lampard.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: tans on Monday, January 12, 2015, 17:59:44
Great news that Harley's gone. I don't think I've ever disliked a player as much as him. Made Prutton look like Lampard.

Yup agreed with that Bazza

Awful


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Monday, January 12, 2015, 18:09:06
Great news that Harley's gone. I don't think I've ever disliked a player as much as him. Made Prutton look like Lampard.

A player who literally offered nothing.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Quagmire on Monday, January 12, 2015, 18:15:04
No Obika on your list, Rich


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, January 12, 2015, 18:17:16
No Obika on your list, Rich

Must have deleted him when adding Hylton, cheers.

Harley came to Swindon already in very poor form. I hope those sort of transfers are long gone.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: pauld on Monday, January 12, 2015, 19:36:04
Isn't Oakley still at the club, albeit loaned out at the moment? Think he's still registered as our player though?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, January 12, 2015, 19:37:37
Isn't Oakley still at the club, albeit loaned out at the moment? Think he's still registered as our player though?

Released last summer.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: pauld on Monday, January 12, 2015, 19:49:06
Released last summer.
Fair enough. I should have looked it up really. Too lazy :)


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: dalumpimunki on Monday, January 12, 2015, 20:16:27
I thought Branco had signed on now?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, January 12, 2015, 20:17:05
I thought Branco had signed on now?

Was it ever officially confirmed?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Red Frog on Monday, January 12, 2015, 20:37:43
Was it ever officially confirmed?

Yep.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, January 13, 2015, 13:12:34
Not sure whether this should go in here or the "trivial things that mildly amuse" thread, but for some reason I stumbled across football's answer to Shergar's twitter profile earlier and was amused to read Herbalife Harry descrbing himself in these terms

"Harryagombar7
@HarryAgombar7
Pro footballer at Swindon Town fc Full stockist of Herbalife, nutrition for a better life. We are a leading nutrition & direct-selling company."

Didn't know Herbalife sold vanishing cream :)


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: kerry red on Tuesday, January 13, 2015, 13:13:52
Danny Rose at Oxford sells the same stuff


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, January 13, 2015, 13:36:19
Not sure whether this should go in here or the "trivial things that mildly amuse" thread, but for some reason I stumbled across football's answer to Shergar's twitter profile earlier and was amused to read Herbalife Harry descrbing himself in these terms

"Harryagombar7
@HarryAgombar7
Pro footballer at Swindon Town fc Full stockist of Herbalife, nutrition for a better life. We are a leading nutrition & direct-selling company."

Didn't know Herbalife sold vanishing cream :)

I assume its something like Tupperware parties...

To be fair at least he is preparing for the inevitable end of his 'cough' professional football career.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: tans on Tuesday, January 13, 2015, 14:24:47
Not sure whether this should go in here or the "trivial things that mildly amuse" thread, but for some reason I stumbled across football's answer to Shergar's twitter profile earlier and was amused to read Herbalife Harry descrbing himself in these terms

"Harryagombar7
@HarryAgombar7
Pro footballer at Swindon Town fc Full stockist of Herbalife, nutrition for a better life. We are a leading nutrition & direct-selling company."

Didn't know Herbalife sold vanishing cream :)

:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, January 13, 2015, 16:40:27
Herbalife is one of those M-L-definitely-not-a-pyramid-M schemes.

Some people can earn a good crust from it. Harry, I'm not so sure.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: kerry red on Tuesday, January 13, 2015, 17:01:36
Long way to go, but it's encouragingly quiet on the transfer front


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: kerry red on Tuesday, January 13, 2015, 17:12:42
Development team beaten 8-2 by Muff this afternoon.

Apparently their team was ridiculously strong


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, January 13, 2015, 17:17:50
Development team beaten 8-2 by Muff this afternoon.

Apparently their team was ridiculously strong

Buchel, Addison, Ward, Harte, Cargill (Kaye 75), Stanislas (Buckley 75), Wakefield (Coulibaly 65), O’Kane, Fraser (Whitfield 62), MacDonald, Cornick.



Junior Stanislas, Ryan Fraser and Eunan O’Kane were all on target in an 8-2 friendly win against Swindon Town.
Stanislas, Fraser and Harry Cornick each scored braces against the Robins, with O’Kane and substitute Aly Coulibaly adding to the total.

Elliott Ward stepped up his comeback by completing 90 minutes for the first time since August, while there was also valuable game time for Ian Harte and Shaun MacDonald.

Cornick, playing as a lone striker, put the Cherries in front as he converted from Josh Wakefield’s perfectly weighted through ball.

Stanislas then scored from the penalty spot a few minutes later after Shaun MacDonald had been fouled in the box.

Fine finishes from O’Kane and Fraser ensured the hosts were out of sight inside half an hour, although Swindon managed to pull one back before the break.

There was no let up from the Cherries as Stanislas, Fraser and Cornick all scored their second goals of the afternoon in the first 15 minutes after the re-start.

Coulibaly, who was one of a number of a second half changes, netted from close range before Swindon found a late consolation.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: @MacPhlea on Tuesday, January 13, 2015, 17:28:11
Not sure whether this should go in here or the "trivial things that mildly amuse" thread, but for some reason I stumbled across football's answer to Shergar's twitter profile earlier and was amused to read Herbalife Harry descrbing himself in these terms

"Harryagombar7
@HarryAgombar7
Pro footballer at Swindon Town fc Full stockist of Herbalife, nutrition for a better life. We are a leading nutrition & direct-selling company."

Didn't know Herbalife sold vanishing cream :)

Another muppet falls for the MLM get rich quick scam... he'll have Jed signed up next (hopefully)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKPKPY9qnew


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Red Frog on Wednesday, February 4, 2015, 13:05:33
Jermaine Hylton living the dream. Especially the last sentence.

www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/31116398 (http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/31116398)


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, February 4, 2015, 18:25:53
He could mean cheesecake..


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: @mwooly63 on Friday, February 13, 2015, 17:49:05
Interview on Swindon Viewpoint, Andy Rowland and Harry Toffolo

http://www.swindonviewpoint.com/video/state-play-harry-toffolo

Comes across as really level headed and happy to be here, not sure about Rowlands as an interviewer tho but can overlook that as he is a legend.
Looking good too after his problems


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Costanza on Friday, February 13, 2015, 17:56:33
Has there ever been a more active loanee than Harry Toffolo?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Friday, February 13, 2015, 18:00:57
Massimo on Points West - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31461484


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Friday, February 13, 2015, 18:19:30
Has there ever been a more active loanee than Harry Toffolo?

Dean Parrett was fairly busy in that hotel room.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, February 13, 2015, 18:23:05
We do seem to have a policy of recruiting only players that are good lads. I reckon our experience with Ranger has cemented that position.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Ginginho on Friday, February 13, 2015, 18:32:06
Good lads but a bunch of divers and cheats nonetheless :)


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: tans on Friday, February 13, 2015, 18:48:23
Dean Parrett was fairly busy in that hotel room.

Crash bang wallop


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: tans on Saturday, February 14, 2015, 09:11:57
So Spurs have a buy back clause in Luongos contract where they can buy him back for what we paid for him.

No brainer if i was them, buy him back for 400k then sell for 4milliom. ;)


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, February 14, 2015, 09:18:00
I see he's triggered a bit of a twitter meltdown, which is most amusing. I was also foolish enough to read the adver comments. According to one chappy, Luongo isn't fit to wear the shirt!


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Saturday, February 14, 2015, 09:18:39
Yep quite funny.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: tans on Saturday, February 14, 2015, 09:45:42
http://www.otib.co.uk/index.php?/topic/167848-massimo-luongo/#entry2193036


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: manc_red on Saturday, February 14, 2015, 09:49:57
Bold move by Power turning down 3.5m in January then, if Spurs could take him back at any time for 400k.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: kerry red on Saturday, February 14, 2015, 09:57:43
Quick thought.

Why is there a supposed 50% sell on clause if Spurs can get him back for £400k (allegedly).


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: manc_red on Saturday, February 14, 2015, 10:05:46
Well it was a Jed deal (I think??), so anything is possible.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Processed Beats on Saturday, February 14, 2015, 10:06:26
Disappointing, if true, but like the 50% sell-on clause my have been a condition of Town being able to sign him.

Annoying seeing several Spurs fans on Twitter talking about re-signing him for the £400k and then selling him for his reported £3-4m value, as if their club need that sort of money. Typical Premier League attitude.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Saxondale on Saturday, February 14, 2015, 10:14:59
Is this not something that Tans has made up?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: manc_red on Saturday, February 14, 2015, 10:18:09
Is this not something that Tans has made up?
Nope. Reported by the Adver based on a quote from Luongo - http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/news/11793759._It___s_probably_the_right_time_for_me_to_move_on___admits_Luongo/

I do have my doubts about the sell on to City or o*ford bit, though.  :D


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, February 14, 2015, 10:18:55
Tansmedia getting picked up by OTIB, amusing.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, February 14, 2015, 10:44:58
I see he's triggered a bit of a twitter meltdown, which is most amusing. I was also foolish enough to read the adver comments. According to one chappy, Luongo isn't fit to wear the shirt!
I just read the comments too.

Fucking hell.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, February 14, 2015, 10:49:50
This little gem springs to mind:

Quote
Mass said above;

''The worst-case scenario is that I stay at Swindon''. That is DEEPLY insulting to us.

The 400K deal always sounded very dodgy and guess what? IT IS!

He has just been away for a month anyway, an absence which it now seems we were foolish to support and we have very clearly been used by both the player and his leech of an agent.

If the player does not want to play for us, he should just leave on good terms, but sooner rather than later.

Please do not catch your bum on the door on your way out Mass, is what MR Power should be saying.

A player who is thinking of leaving is simply not fit to wear a Swindon Town shirt!!

Fucking hell indeed.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Batch on Saturday, February 14, 2015, 11:09:07

''The worst-case scenario is that I stay at Swindon''

To be honest that is a bit of a dumb ass thing to say. Yes we know he's off at the end of the year, but we don't need to be told it like that!
---
Thing is, its likely a fair few will be off. Even if we do go up. That's our wage structure. Deal with it.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, February 14, 2015, 11:11:08
There has been some wonderful hyperbolic knee-jerking across the Swindon Town Social Networks right now. However, surely there's an argument that the club could very well be 'dancing on a volcano' so to speak.

We've got a great squad right now but it's more than plausible that 2015-16 doesn't start with...

Wes Foderingham
Ty Belford

Nathan Thompson
Nathan Byrne
Jack Barthram
Darren Ward
Jack Stephens
Jordan Turnbull
Harry Toffolo
 
Mass Luongo
Yaser Kasim
Anton Rodgers
John Swift
Louis Thompson
Matty Jones

Andy Williams 
Connor Waldon
George Barker
Miles Storey

I've included loan players in that list because we've been discussing some of them staying on and I know that there are some players on that list who we would hardly mourn the loss of (I didn't even include Agombar and Josue) but it has to be said that this could be a pretty high turnover of playing staff, even for this level. Power has enjoyed decent success with the transfer market so far but that is a lot of work in the Summer if we are unable to retain our players.

In Conclusion: Please get promoted.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: ghanimah on Saturday, February 14, 2015, 11:13:01
''The worst-case scenario is that I stay at Swindon''

To be honest that is a bit of a dumb ass thing to say. Yes we know he's off at the end of the year, but we don't need to be told it like that!
---
Thing is, its likely a fair few will be off. Even if we do go up. That's our wage structure. Deal with it.

TBF he did qualify it with "and that’s not a bad worst-case scenario, especially if I continue to be involved with the national team."

But yes, the wording probably was a tad tactless. It's no surprise that players will be off - we're where we are because a few of our players are too good for this league. Some of the comments on the Adver are OTT in response.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, February 14, 2015, 11:17:14
''The worst-case scenario is that I stay at Swindon''

To be honest that is a bit of a dumb ass thing to say. Yes we know he's off at the end of the year, but we don't need to be told it like that!


I think he's just worded it poorly. Footballers aren't generally known to be the most articulate of people.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: suttonred on Saturday, February 14, 2015, 11:23:18
This little gem springs to mind:

Fucking hell indeed.

Hilarious, the morons will really inherit the earth as predicted..


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Barry Scott on Saturday, February 14, 2015, 11:33:12
Doesn't seem that bad to me. I read it as him saying, the world is his oyster and we're merely the least great option, in a great set of options. It doesn't seem negative at all, especially in context.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: herthab on Saturday, February 14, 2015, 11:53:26
Haha, fucking idiots. Why would Luongo's dream (or any other footballer's come to that) be to play in the 3rd, or 2nd, tier of English football with a provincial club that he has no real tie to? As long as players are committed whilst they're with us can anyone really begrudge them a chance to progress?


Title: Re:
Post by: Benzel on Saturday, February 14, 2015, 12:23:45
Worst case scenario is that he stays with a club where he is an established starter in one of the best midfields outside the premier league. Hardly a terrible scenario.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Batch on Saturday, February 14, 2015, 12:49:23
TBF he did qualify it with "and that’s not a bad worst-case scenario, especially if I continue to be involved with the national team."

Aaah, I missed that.

I think he's just worded it poorly. Footballers aren't generally known to be the most articulate of people.

Very true. I sincerely hope the football fan equivalent aren't dumb enough to give him a hard time.

Sometimes you have to accept a player will outgrow the club/is too good and appreciate it while it lasts. I just about put Luongo into that category (on ability, clearly on reputation he is), and he isn't going to get worse.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: kerry red on Saturday, February 14, 2015, 13:37:01
I never thought for a minute he would be still here next season.

I was expecting a few quid instead, though - which might still be the case, of course


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: FormerlyPlymRed on Saturday, February 14, 2015, 13:41:49
We have a lot of mongs, if luongo misses a chance someone will say something about lack of commitment etc. Ridiculous considering he's far too good for L1 and we are lucky to have him


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: @mwooly63 on Thursday, February 26, 2015, 12:28:05
Try Belfords older brother Cameron on trial with the club
Another keeper

Wonder if that's a long term look at replacing Wes, with Ty stepping into number 1 slot.
Odd move otherwise as managed all season with just the 2 keepers


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: tans on Thursday, February 26, 2015, 12:53:59
Favour for a mate wont it be, coopers best mates with belfords dad isnt he?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, February 26, 2015, 12:59:36
Perhaps, maybe, we're trialling a player because we're a football club and trialing players is something that football clubs do?

Just a thought like!


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: herthab on Thursday, February 26, 2015, 13:03:08
Perhaps, maybe, we're trialling a player because we're a football club and trialing players is something that football clubs do?

Just a thought like!
Bit left field isn't it FH? Try and come up with a more realistic reason why a football club would give a trial to a football player.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, February 26, 2015, 13:06:07
Bit left field isn't it FH? Try and come up with a more realistic reason why a football club would give a trial to a football player.

I suppose it is a tad far-fetched, yeah!


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, February 26, 2015, 13:51:16
I googled him and found this fascinating article

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1380596/Chesterfield-fan-punches-Bury-goalkeeper-Cameron-Belford-face.html

Tremendous restraint in those pictures!


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: herthab on Thursday, February 26, 2015, 14:04:16
I googled him and found this fascinating article

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1380596/Chesterfield-fan-punches-Bury-goalkeeper-Cameron-Belford-face.html

Tremendous restraint in those pictures!
The comments under that article are jaw dropping. What a bunch of absolute cunts.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Thursday, February 26, 2015, 14:09:16
God bless the daily mail readers!  :girlgiggle:


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, February 26, 2015, 14:18:42
Perhaps, maybe, we're trialling a player because we're a football club and trialing players is something that football clubs do?

Just a thought like!

Bit left field isn't it FH? Try and come up with a more realistic reason why a football club would give a trial to a football player.

Quit with your non knee jerk misplaced logic you fucking pair of internet witches.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, February 26, 2015, 15:12:34
The bookings we have been collating lately, I wonder if we have anyone close to a ban


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: herthab on Thursday, February 26, 2015, 15:31:37
The bookings we have been collating lately, I wonder if we have anyone close to a ban

According to the official site we've got 5 players currently on 6 yellows each, but that's just league games. If you include cup games, Nathan is winning on 9 yellows, closely followed by Yasser on 8.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Thursday, February 26, 2015, 15:50:32
I don't rate Belford at the moment - Ty that is. Perhaps a loan move for him to play games would do him good


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Tails on Thursday, February 26, 2015, 15:53:16
How is it possible to rate someone that barely plays?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Thursday, February 26, 2015, 15:54:35
too cocky when he has played for my liking


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Power to people on Friday, February 27, 2015, 11:27:57
When he has played I thought he looked a decent keeper


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Honkytonk on Friday, February 27, 2015, 12:41:15
too cocky when he has played for my liking

He's younger than he looks, but he has the ability and skill to get away with it most of the time. See his chop against Newport.

If we were playing hoofball he'd be a liability, but then I doubt he'd be playing like that if we played hoofball. He's probably been told by Cooper to play with some flair/cockiness.

I think he's going to be a great keeper when he matures.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: tans on Friday, February 27, 2015, 12:52:05
Miles storey loan extended till end of season


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: suttonred on Monday, March 2, 2015, 12:52:04
Sams reporting Anton Rodgers has a fractured wrist.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, March 2, 2015, 13:02:13
We're looking a tad thin in midfield all of a sudden.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, March 2, 2015, 13:18:49
We're looking a tad thin in midfield all of a sudden.

No different to Jan really, when we lost Mass and Kas, we've lost Louis T and Anton R, Gladwin is injured again, and Stephens suspended for one game....so we can put out Mass, Kas and Swift, then Stephens back.

We may struggle to have a full bench on Tues v Pikeys mind, but we've already been there this season.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Monday, March 2, 2015, 13:37:39
Sams reporting Anton Rodgers has a fractured wrist.
Him and Barker haven't been having a group one with a young lady again, have they.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: pauld on Monday, March 2, 2015, 16:35:41
Him and Barker haven't been having a group one with a young lady again, have they.
Fractured wrist might suggest perhaps not doing so may be the problem this time


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Monday, March 2, 2015, 17:30:25
Injury caused when watching one of the others and enjoying it a bit too much


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: THE FLASH on Monday, March 2, 2015, 21:55:51
Him and Barker haven't been having a group one with a young lady again, have they.

I doubt Barker would find the target!


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: JayBox325 on Thursday, March 12, 2015, 10:44:50
Absolutely gutted.

http://www.swindonlinksport.com/2015/03/12/thompson-out-for-the-rest-of-the-season/


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, March 12, 2015, 10:51:44
Thats very disappointing.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, March 12, 2015, 14:23:53
We'll miss his energy for sure.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Abrahammer on Thursday, March 12, 2015, 14:25:42
If we go up and so do Norwich i could see him coming back on a season long loan


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: JayBox325 on Thursday, March 12, 2015, 15:30:11
If we go up and so do Norwich i could see him coming back on a season long loan

And if they stay down depending on their budget there's a chance he could play with us in the Championship for a short while. Who knows!

Need to make a Thompson's banner saying "Always a Swindoner" or something :P


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Berniman on Thursday, March 12, 2015, 16:03:42
Swindonian


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: JayBox325 on Thursday, March 12, 2015, 16:16:59
Swindonian

Yep. This is better. ;)


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: @mwooly63 on Thursday, March 26, 2015, 10:11:42
Tweeted by Sam

George Barker/Jack Barthram training with Exeter this week. Possible loan move before today's 5pm deadline, possibly with eye on summer move


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, March 26, 2015, 11:50:22
Super George <3


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Thursday, March 26, 2015, 16:32:05
Will Randall & Josh Cooke have been offered pro deals


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: donkey on Thursday, March 26, 2015, 16:33:19
Have any of our youngsters been offered pro deals?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, March 26, 2015, 16:33:54
Yes, Josh Randall and Will Cooke.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Thursday, March 26, 2015, 16:34:25
Have any of our youngsters been offered pro deals?
Not that I've heard!


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, March 26, 2015, 16:36:43
I think we should be looking to the future and signing up some of our youngsters on pro deals.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: donkey on Thursday, March 26, 2015, 16:41:59
Not that I've heard!

Good lad. :)


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Thursday, March 26, 2015, 16:49:18
Surely we should be keeping Barthram? We have very little defensive cover, even with that fella from Wolves signing.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: JayBox325 on Thursday, March 26, 2015, 16:56:57
Surely we should be keeping Barthram? We have very little defensive cover, even with that fella from Wolves signing.

I agree. He's looked bright when he's come on, too.

NEWS: https://twitter.com/AcademySTFC/status/581132807486963712


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Thursday, March 26, 2015, 17:02:46
Good lad. :)
:D
Surely we should be keeping Barthram? We have very little defensive cover, even with that fella from Wolves signing.
Agree re Barthram. Not as good as NB going forward but has a good engine and is good cover if needed at this level. Bench will be looking sparse if him & Barker leave.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: kerry red on Thursday, March 26, 2015, 17:04:17
Presume if the shit hits the fan we can recall him


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: @mwooly63 on Thursday, March 26, 2015, 17:09:17
Will Randall & Josh Cooke have been offered pro deals

Luke Matthews, Callum McCormack, Joe English, Amir Geid, Claude Da Costa all let go, 2 out of 8 not a great return if we gonna go down the youth route, loans are all well and good but having a few of your own breaking through the ranks is a must

Lets hope Randall and Cooke can break into the first team, although have to admit know nothing about either of them


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Thursday, March 26, 2015, 17:10:48
Do the youths play the same possession-based style that our first team do?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Thursday, March 26, 2015, 17:15:01
Do the youths play the same possession-based style that our first team do?
I believe they do. Pretty sure it's a club mantra these days & a major reason why Power wants to get everybody based at the same site with regards to training.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, March 26, 2015, 17:17:29
Marshall, Cooke and Randall represent a decent return from the 2nd year scholars and I'd say that's about right.

Judging brief comments made over the season, I'd say it's more likely that Lee Power is more concerned with Swindon Town assisting in the development of elite academies instead.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: nigel grays a postie on Thursday, March 26, 2015, 17:27:56
Even when Byrne has been injured Cooper has played Gladwin instead. Can't imagine Barthram has much hope of a new contract here since he has spent pretty much the entire season sat on the subs bench


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: @mwooly63 on Friday, March 27, 2015, 16:38:14
Cameron Belford signs till end of season

Quote
cameron belford ‏@cambelford  4m4 minutes ago
Delighted to put pen to paper @Official_STFC  till the end of the season.. Looking forward to the promotion push #GreatToBeBack #STFC


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Friday, March 27, 2015, 16:45:46
InB4 ZOMG WESLEY IS LEAVING THEWN oneoneoneoneone


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Ells on Friday, March 27, 2015, 16:46:53
InB4 ZOMG WESLEY IS LEAVING THEWN oneoneoneoneone

NO AMBITION


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Berniman on Friday, March 27, 2015, 16:48:07
InB4 ZOMG WESLEY IS LEAVING THEWN oneoneoneoneone

WTF, is your keyboard broken?  Liquid lunch?  Typing with your tongue?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Honkytonk on Friday, March 27, 2015, 18:26:51
I thought his name was Tyrell Belford? I'm confused.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: kerry red on Friday, March 27, 2015, 18:30:41
We now have 2 Belford brothers - both keepers


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Costanza on Friday, March 27, 2015, 18:36:25
THE CURRENT SQUAD 2014/15

GOALKEEPERS

(http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicFODERINW.jpg) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicBELFORDT.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/conor%20johns_zpsissbg2lr.png?t=1429989107) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zpssjbbnsyt.png)

1. Wes Foderingham (2015)
25. Tyrell Belford (2015)
35. Connor Johns (YTS)
37. Cameron Belford (2015)

DEFENDERS

(http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicTHOMPSON.jpg) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicBYRNENAT.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zps4dfshc2g.png) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zpslzzirsqn.png) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zpsjcdq0r5d.png) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicJONESMAT.jpg)
(http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicWARDDARR.jpg) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicBARTHRAJ.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zpskoh03rfx.png) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicRAPHAELR.jpg) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicHOLLAND1.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zpsn2vvcmbh.png)

2. Nathan Thompson (2017)
3. Nathan Byrne (2015)
5. Jack Stephens (2015) - on loan from Southampton
6. Jordan Turnbull (2015) - on loan from Southampton
15. Harry Toffolo (2015) - on loan from Norwich City
21. Matty Jones (2015)
22. Darren Ward (2015) - on loan to Crawley Town
23. Jack Barthram (2015)
27. Josue Antonio (2015)
29. Raphael Branco (2017)
33. Tom Holland (YTS)
36. Sam Ricketts (2015) - on loan from Wolverhampton Wanderers

MIDFIELDERS

(http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicLUONGOMA.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zpsvrc8tzoj.png) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicKASIMYAS.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zpsp4op5d89.png) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicTHOMPSOL.jpg)
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zps8npsmm4o.png) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zps4twskjyx.png) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicAGOMBARH.jpg) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicMARSHALL.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zpsu6afwv78.png) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicWOODRYAN.jpg)

4. Massimo Luongo (2016)
7. Ben Gladwin (2017)
8. Yaser Kasim (2016)
14. John Swift (2015) - on loan from Chelsea
19. Louis Thompson (2015) - on loan from Norwich City
26. Anton Rodgers (2015)
28. Tom Smith (YTS)
30. Harry Agombar (2015)
32. Lee Marshall (2016)
34. Tom Ouldridge (YTS)
39. Ryan Wood (YTS)

FORWARDS

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zpsk3tdzoiv.png) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicWILLIAM4.jpg) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicWALDONCO.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zpsow58y08e.png)
(http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicOBIKAJON.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zpspfoo93ck.png) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicRANDALLW.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zpsekocuw3x.png) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicSTOREYMI.jpg)

9. Michael Smith (2016)
10. Andy Williams (2015)
16. Connor Waldon (2015)
18. George Barker (2015)
20. Jonathan Obika (2016)
24. Jermaine Hylton (2017)
31. Will Randall (2016)
38. Josh Cooke (2016)
--. Miles Storey (2016) - on loan to Newport County

STAFF

(http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicCOOPERMA.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zpsarl5u4fd.png)

Mark Cooper
Luke Williams


CURRENT SQUAD 2014/15

GOALKEEPERS
1. Wes Foderingham (2015)
25. Tyrell Belford (2015)
35. Connor Johns (YTS)
37. Cameron Belford (2015)

DEFENDERS
2. Nathan Thompson (2017)
3. Nathan Byrne (2015)
5. Jack Stephens (2015)
6. Jordan Turnbull (2015)
15. Harry Toffolo (2015)
21. Matty Jones (2015)
22. Darren Ward (2015) - out on loan
23. Jack Barthram (2015)
27. Josue Antonio (2015)
29. Raphael Branco (2017)
33. Tom Holland (YTS)
36. Sam Ricketts (2015)
39. Ryan Wood (YTS)

MIDFIELDERS
4. Massimo Luongo (2016)
7. Ben Gladwin (2017)
8. Yaser Kasim (2016)
14. John Swift (2015)
19. Louis Thompson (2015)
26. Anton Rodgers (2015)
28. Tom Smith (YTS)
30. Harry Agombar (2015) - out on loan
32. Lee Marshall (2016)
34. Tom Ouldridge (YTS)

FORWARDS
9. Michael Smith (2016)
10. Andy Williams (2015)
16. Connor Waldon (2015)
18. George Barker (2015)
20. Jonathan Obika (2016)
24. Jermaine Hylton (2017)
31. Will Randall (2016)
38. Josh Cooke (2016)
--. Miles Storey (2016) - out on loan

GOALKEEPER
DEFENDER
MIDFIELDER
FORWARD


* There maybe some errors.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: JayBox325 on Saturday, March 28, 2015, 14:40:09
Cameron Belford has been seen in photos with the number 12 kit.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: OrangeTransits on Saturday, March 28, 2015, 15:55:08
* There maybe some errors.

Lots.........


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, March 28, 2015, 16:47:28
Lots.........

Correct away..........


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: manc_red on Saturday, March 28, 2015, 16:58:27
Correct away..........

No Obika. I didn't notice any more.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Power to people on Monday, March 30, 2015, 11:55:50
Cameron Belford signs till end of season


Assume his ban from non league days has been dealt with


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Saxondale on Tuesday, March 31, 2015, 11:18:03
I see Sam Ricketts is officially a town fan then. http://www.swindonlinksport.com/2015/03/31/sam-ricketts-a-peculiar-homecoming/


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Batch on Friday, April 3, 2015, 18:35:38
Ward apparently our for rest of season, not that he's really part of the squad..


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Saturday, April 4, 2015, 07:15:28
Assume his ban from non league days has been dealt with


What's this?..


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: @mwooly63 on Monday, April 6, 2015, 16:14:36
Ward apparently our for rest of season, not that he's really part of the squad..

apparently not

Quote
Crawley Town ‏@crawleytown  12s12 seconds ago
DS: "Good news about Darren Ward, he's only going to be out for the next 10 days. Not for the season as we first feared."


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: corner on Wednesday, April 8, 2015, 14:20:54
Was going to put this in the ex-town players thread......

@BBCWiltsSport: FOOTBALL: In an interview on Australian TV, @Official_STFC midfielder Massimo Luongo said it's time to move on from the club #stfc  (1/2)
@BBCWiltsSport: FOOTBALL: You can see the interview with Massimo Luongo here: http://t.co/4WiQ87c9h4


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: @mwooly63 on Wednesday, April 8, 2015, 14:25:10
Was going to put this in the ex-town players thread......

@BBCWiltsSport: FOOTBALL: In an interview on Australian TV, @Official_STFC midfielder Massimo Luongo said it's time to move on from the club #stfc  (1/2)
@BBCWiltsSport: FOOTBALL: You can see the interview with Massimo Luongo here: http://t.co/4WiQ87c9h4

This is a few days old, the reason many on twitter were melting down. Piss poor timing but like Flints answer yesterday at least its honest. We all knew he would be gone end of season but many are questioning his performances in light of that interview.
More than likely his agent has had a hand in this


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, April 8, 2015, 14:49:35
I'd rather he just shut the fuck up and get his head down. he's put himself under pressure now with his own fan base. that's potentially not good for our playoff aspirations.

 not going to lose any sleep over it though


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, April 9, 2015, 11:44:35
I'd rather he just shut the fuck up and get his head down. he's put himself under pressure now with his own fan base. that's potentially not good for our playoff aspirations.

 not going to lose any sleep over it though

Agreed he does not need to keep talking about it - get your head down and start getting some form back and be the star of the show for the play-offs


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: herthab on Thursday, April 9, 2015, 11:49:31
If he's asked a direct question you can't blame him for giving an honest answer.

He's not a politician....


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, April 9, 2015, 12:02:49
If he's asked a direct question you can't blame him for giving an honest answer.

He's not a politician....

If he gave a dishonest answer he'd be criticised for that.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: papersun on Saturday, April 18, 2015, 10:05:08
Sorry if this story has already been  posted elsewhere on this forum.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/massimo-luongo-swindon-town-star-named-ninth-best-player-in-uk-outside-the-premier-league/story-e6frf423-1227288867318

I've read that his performances have been  a bit disappointing lately, I would not be surprised if he's feeling the pinch a bit having been involved in the World Cup and Asian Cup as well as his commitments with Swindon.

Hope he comes back to his best in the playoffs and helps you to promotion.

I believe you had another Aussie Brad Smith with you for a while, how did he look?

I'm from Sydney, never been to England, is Swindon worth a visit if I'm over that way?

 


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Miles Mayhem on Saturday, April 18, 2015, 10:12:44
Matt Ritchie number 1


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Ginginho on Saturday, April 18, 2015, 10:12:58
Oh yeah, it's a real treat. See some our treasures here:

http://www.jasperfforde.com/swindon/7wonders.html


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, April 18, 2015, 10:28:28
Oh yeah, it's a real treat. See some our treasures here:

And some more.

http://swindonia.blogspot.co.uk/


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: papersun on Saturday, April 18, 2015, 10:55:08
Thanks guys, seems like Swindon is a must visit then, is it far from Stonehenge? Any hippie culture over there?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, April 18, 2015, 11:17:43
Thanks guys, seems like Swindon is a must visit then, is it far from Stonehenge? Any hippie culture over there?

In Oz terms of distance Stonehenge is on the doorstep....Wiltshire/Gloucestershire is a mecca, for people with an alternative view on life.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Swindon Please Win on Wednesday, April 22, 2015, 12:15:44
Luongo and Byrne in the top 10 players in League 1 awards.

(http://i.gyazo.com/e5cdc76e601d30428ed041325a0ccdbb.png)


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Barry Scott on Wednesday, April 22, 2015, 12:32:13
No idea how any Brizzle players got in there to be honest.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Wednesday, April 22, 2015, 12:56:42
Taking aside our antipathy towards him as an individual and the 82ers as a club, are people surprised with how Flint has progressed?

I really wasn't arsed about him leaving, and thought we got more than a fair price for him BUT here he is two years later, a virtual ever present in a championship winning side, double figures for goals this season, and voted in the top 5 players in the league.

I wouldn't have predicted that to be honest


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: JayBox325 on Wednesday, April 22, 2015, 13:07:50
Luongo to Villa.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3050533/Aston-Villa-target-summer-transfer-bid-Swindon-Town-midfielder-Massimo-Luongo.html


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Ginginho on Wednesday, April 22, 2015, 13:10:44
He's off no matter what and that would be a cracking move for him.
What do we reckon, £3-£4M?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, April 22, 2015, 13:18:08
I think everybody expected that move to materialise once Sherwood got a Prem job.  There was probably a nudge and a wink between Sherwood and Power the day he got the Villa job.

£3-£4m sounds about right to me, unless they look to include a similar Luongo deal to the one from Spurs with the next Massimo from the Villa under 21's coming our way.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Samdy Gray on Wednesday, April 22, 2015, 13:20:49
I think I'd rather have the money TBH, that'd be next season's wage bill taken care of.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: tans on Wednesday, April 22, 2015, 13:25:09
Yep agree with Samdy


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Wednesday, April 22, 2015, 13:32:57
Even though he won't be our player, I'd hate to think of him rotting in some reserve team, whatever else you say for tactics Tim, he does play young players. Could see Mass doing a job for them, hell if Mason can become a Prem regular I don't see why Luongo, a better player to my mind, can't


Title: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, April 22, 2015, 13:41:31
I can't see him being up to the prem yet, but you've already pointed out Mason did so who knows. Good luck to him.

As for Flint, it's a cracking example of why we should be patient with gladwin, if flint can turn into a good league 1 player Gladwin should piss it within a season or two... not sure if flint is going to struggle more in the championship mind. hope so.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: @mwooly63 on Wednesday, April 22, 2015, 13:56:12

As for Flint, it's a cracking example of why we should be patient with gladwin, if flint can turn into a good league 1 player Gladwin should piss it within a season or two... not sure if flint is going to struggle more in the championship mind. hope so.

He isn't the best dealing with the ball on the floor, in the air yep but most champ football I have seen isn't aerial so who knows.

His turnaround in discipline is remarkable tho


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Tails on Wednesday, April 22, 2015, 15:59:15
Gladwin will be huge for us next season.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, April 22, 2015, 16:02:32
Gladwin will be huge for us next season.

I've a hunch that Villa/Sherwood will buy him in the summer...... and then loan him back to us for the season.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: tans on Wednesday, April 22, 2015, 16:26:13
Big hunch that!


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: donkey on Wednesday, April 22, 2015, 21:10:23
Luongo and Byrne in the top 10 players in League 1 awards.

(http://i.gyazo.com/e5cdc76e601d30428ed041325a0ccdbb.png)

No Kasim...no party.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, April 26, 2015, 17:42:35
...and with that, quite predictably, Luongo and Byrne are in the Team of the Year.

(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/82581000/png/_82581523_l1.png)


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: JayBox325 on Monday, April 27, 2015, 09:22:53
Apparently John Swift had a meningitis scare! But he's back in training now.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Tails on Monday, April 27, 2015, 10:35:29
How Flint got there ahead of Ayling I've no idea.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Monday, April 27, 2015, 16:24:14
How Flint got there ahead of Ayling I've no idea.

Goals scored probably.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, April 27, 2015, 16:43:13
Great defensive record, 12 goals, no yellow cards, no red cards, probable player of the season for Bristol City award on its way.

I'm all for disliking Flint, and I really do, but he's had a stonking season.

We've got a 20% sell-on so hopefully he's getting noticed.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, April 27, 2015, 16:52:10
Great defensive record, 12 goals, no yellow cards, no red cards, probable player of the season for Bristol City award on its way.

I'm all for disliking Flint, and I really do, but he's had a stonking season.

We've got a 20% sell-on so hopefully he's getting noticed.

I was wondering about this.  English football still has an addiction to the big centre half....even Arsenal have Mertersaker who's a donkey.....and then you get the likes of Brede Hangeland, who did OK for himself.

Cardiff paid 5 mill for Sean Morrison, but of course we had no sell on....so you never know.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Monday, April 27, 2015, 17:05:24
We're due some extra cash for Flint now City have been promoted.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: tans on Monday, April 27, 2015, 17:11:24
I bet we havent even got a sell on, jed just said we did ;)


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Monday, April 27, 2015, 18:00:59
I was reliably informed at the time of Flint's departure that we do have a sell on however just like the Austin deal where Fitton was quids in, any sell on fee we receive is to be split between Jed, Murrell and Rice. Crafty fuckers.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Abrahammer on Monday, April 27, 2015, 18:07:19
Im glad to hear you say that, confirms a sell clause would actually come straight to us


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, April 27, 2015, 18:08:54
I was reliably informed


Reliably? LOLz


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: tans on Monday, April 27, 2015, 18:20:55
Absolute AIDS


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, April 27, 2015, 18:25:13
I'd like to think that City fans have been premature and have been wasting their money buying those shirts because it could become inaccurate very quickly.

I'd like to think Town would use this sort of stuff (mostly Flint's Sky Sports comment) as an incentive.

Alas, the Gods of Football have rarely been that great to our fans and I doubt it would give us that sweet(ish) moment.

Here's hoping...


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, April 27, 2015, 18:27:22
Talking of sell ons and feel free to mock me, but do you think we had the nous to put some kind of clause in Matt ritchie's contract that we might be due some moolah should he play in the premiership?


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: tans on Monday, April 27, 2015, 18:36:17
No


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, April 27, 2015, 18:36:42
Talking of sell ons and feel free to mock me, but do you think we had the nous to put some kind of clause in Matt ritchie's contract that we might be due some moolah should he play in the premiership?

In any other situation, we probably would have. But Black's exit left Town on their knees.

I'm still bitter on Ritchie's departure. Not really at Bournemouth, just the whole sorry situation.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Abrahammer on Monday, April 27, 2015, 18:39:26
Doubt they had time to talk about clauses given the timescales involved.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: kerry red on Monday, April 27, 2015, 18:43:40
Think we had a clause of more dosh for Louis if Norwich get promoted


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Batch on Monday, April 27, 2015, 18:50:39
In any other situation, we probably would have. But Black's exit left Town on their knees.

I'm still bitter on Ritchie's departure. Not really at Bournemouth, just the whole sorry situation.

Indeed. We didn't even get anywhere near fair market value in the pursuit of a cash up front deal. Sell on, they probably only thought of that while running to the bank.

Agree you can't blame Bournemouth for taking advantage.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Batch on Monday, April 27, 2015, 18:51:22
Think we had a clause of more dosh for Louis if Norwich get promoted

Surely that only applies if he was part of their squad like next season. Actually I wouldn't put it past Power :)


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: tans on Monday, April 27, 2015, 18:52:22
Just been pointed out to me that on that tshirt photo - Fuck has 5 letters when you count the symbols


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: kerry red on Monday, April 27, 2015, 18:53:08
Don't see why. I'd expect the clause to be worded simply as 'get promoted, give us more cash'.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Saxondale on Monday, April 27, 2015, 18:56:12
Just been pointed out to me that on that tshirt photo - Fuck has 5 letters when you count the symbols

The other error being that on the t shirt underneath it says Bristol City established 1897 when we all know it was actually 1982.


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, April 28, 2015, 11:58:08
Talking of sell ons and feel free to mock me, but do you think we had the nous to put some kind of clause in Matt ritchie's contract that we might be due some moolah should he play in the premiership?

Ha Ha


Title: Re: The Squad (2014/15)
Post by: Amir on Tuesday, April 28, 2015, 12:08:48
Talking of sell ons and feel free to mock me, but do you think we had the nous to put some kind of clause in Matt ritchie's contract that we might be due some moolah should he play in the premiership?

If there was a clause it would probably state that in the event of their promotion to the Premiership, Bournemouth fans are allowed to come and sleep with all our wives/girlfriends.

That's how bad that deal was.



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2014-15)
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, May 13, 2015, 07:04:41
Sam m reports we've activated a one year option on Byrne's contract.

obviously doesn't mean anything one way or other about him staying, but at least he won't be free.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2014-15)
Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, May 13, 2015, 07:17:50
50% sell on to Spurs as well. First time I've seen that mentioned.


Title: Re:
Post by: Frigby Daser on Wednesday, May 13, 2015, 07:28:30
Wonder if we can give them 2015's Ben Tozer to have that the sell-on clause waived?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2014-15)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, May 13, 2015, 09:00:51
THE CURRENT SQUAD

GOALKEEPERS

(http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicFODERINW.jpg) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicBELFORDT.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/conor%20johns_zpsissbg2lr.png?t=1429989107) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zpssjbbnsyt.png)

1. Wes Foderingham (2015)
25. Tyrell Belford (2015)
35. Connor Johns (YTS)
37. Cameron Belford (2015)

DEFENDERS

(http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicTHOMPSON.jpg) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicBYRNENAT.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zps4dfshc2g.png) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zpslzzirsqn.png) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zpsjcdq0r5d.png) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicJONESMAT.jpg)
(http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicWARDDARR.jpg) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicBARTHRAJ.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zpskoh03rfx.png) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicRAPHAELR.jpg) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicHOLLAND1.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zpsn2vvcmbh.png)

2. Nathan Thompson (2017)
3. Nathan Byrne (2016 - Reported)
5. Jack Stephens (2015) - on loan from Southampton
6. Jordan Turnbull (2015) - on loan from Southampton
15. Harry Toffolo (2015) - on loan from Norwich City
21. Matty Jones (2015)
22. Darren Ward (2015)
23. Jack Barthram (2015)
27. Josue Antonio (2015)
29. Raphael Branco (2017)
33. Tom Holland (YTS)
36. Sam Ricketts (2015) - on loan from Wolverhampton Wanderers

MIDFIELDERS

(http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicLUONGOMA.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zpsvrc8tzoj.png) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicKASIMYAS.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zpsp4op5d89.png) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicTHOMPSOL.jpg)
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zps8npsmm4o.png) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zps4twskjyx.png) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicAGOMBARH.jpg) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicMARSHALL.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zpsu6afwv78.png) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicWOODRYAN.jpg)

4. Massimo Luongo (2016)
7. Ben Gladwin (2017)
8. Yaser Kasim (2016)
14. John Swift (2015) - on loan from Chelsea
19. Louis Thompson (2015) - on loan from Norwich City
26. Anton Rodgers (2015)
28. Tom Smith (YTS)
30. Harry Agombar (2015)
32. Lee Marshall (2016)
34. Tom Ouldridge (YTS)
39. Ryan Wood (YTS)

FORWARDS

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zpsk3tdzoiv.png) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicWILLIAM4.jpg) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicWALDONCO.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zpsow58y08e.png)
(http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicOBIKAJON.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zpspfoo93ck.png) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicRANDALLW.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zpsekocuw3x.png) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicSTOREYMI.jpg)

9. Michael Smith (2016)
10. Andy Williams (2015)
16. Connor Waldon (2015)
18. George Barker (2015)
20. Jonathan Obika (2016)
24. Jermaine Hylton (2017)
31. Will Randall (2016)
38. Josh Cooke (2016)
--. Miles Storey (2016)

STAFF

(http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicCOOPERMA.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zpsarl5u4fd.png)

Mark Cooper
Luke Williams

* There maybe some errors.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2014-15)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, May 13, 2015, 09:03:09
I think the writing is in the wall for the majority of Town's out-of-contract fringe players. Barthram has his fans but he simply doesn't play enough.

Williams and Foderingham is dependent on promotion, as we know.

Morshead has stated that players already know their fates.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2014-15)
Post by: @mwooly63 on Wednesday, May 13, 2015, 09:30:24
I think the writing is in the wall for the majority of Town's out-of-contract fringe players. Barthram has his fans but he simply doesn't play enough.

Williams and Foderingham is dependent on promotion, as we know.

Morshead has stated that players already know their fates.

Yep read somewhere this morning the deadline for retained list to be at FL is Saturday.
Players know but not being made public till after Wembley.
Let's hope all those that play are happy with the clubs choices


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2014-15)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, May 13, 2015, 09:37:46
Anton Rodgers has probably done enough to get an extra year.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2014-15)
Post by: brocklesby red on Wednesday, May 13, 2015, 10:09:35
Anton Rodgers has probably done enough to get an extra year.
If we stay in league one I would agree but don't think he's championship quality


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2014-15)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 13, 2015, 10:12:49
If we stay in league one I would agree but don't think he's championship quality
I agree with this.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2014-15)
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, May 13, 2015, 10:50:27
Our defence (inc GK) is going to look completely different next season, which is not necessarily a bad thing considering it is the weakest part of the team.

Fods is gone, so his replacement will be the biggest signing.  Might see Stephens/Turnbull back if we get promoted, but apart from that it is all change except for Nathan.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2014-15)
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, May 13, 2015, 10:52:53
I reckon we'll need a tactical re-think if we go up, otherwise we'll get torn a new one week in week out with championship teams exploiting our defence.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2014-15)
Post by: kerry red on Wednesday, May 13, 2015, 11:19:09
Nobody can argue about Turnbull and Stephens being good players, so the only excuse for the dodgy defence is the system - or at least our application of it.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2014-15)
Post by: Sippo on Wednesday, May 13, 2015, 11:25:48
Just can't seem to deal with crosses very well...


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2014-15)
Post by: JayBox325 on Wednesday, May 13, 2015, 11:25:56
Nobody can argue about Turnbull and Stephens being good players, so the only excuse for the dodgy defence is the system - or at least our application of it.

It worked better at the start of the season when we had Kasim and Luongo in front of defence. Having two players ready to cover is better than just having Stephens or Ricketts sitting in front.

Need adequate cover to allow Turnbull & Thompson to cover the wings properly if needs be.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2014-15)
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, May 13, 2015, 12:17:31
Nobody can argue about Turnbull and Stephens being good players, so the only excuse for the dodgy defence is the system - or at least our application of it.

Turnbull and Stephens are decent, but only when you have got a decent defensive midfielder in front of them (with our system).  It is no coincidence that the defence has looked decidedly shakey since Louis got injured.  Replacement of Louis is our second most important signing of the summer (unless Norwich and we go up and then we might get him back on a season long loan). 

Kasim/Luongo/Gladwin/Rodgers are not defensive midfielders.  One option that I reckon could work well is to play Nathan as the defensive midfielder, just sit him in front of the back 3 and don't let him go with the rest, effectively turning the 3 into a 4.  Although if this means that Branco plays at the back I would rather stick with Nathan back there.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2014-15)
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, May 13, 2015, 18:09:04
Turnbull and Stephens are decent, but only when you have got a decent defensive midfielder in front of them (with our system).  It is no coincidence that the defence has looked decidedly shakey since Louis got injured.  Replacement of Louis is our second most important signing of the summer (unless Norwich and we go up and then we might get him back on a season long loan). 

Kasim/Luongo/Gladwin/Rodgers are not defensive midfielders.  One option that I reckon could work well is to play Nathan as the defensive midfielder, just sit him in front of the back 3 and don't let him go with the rest, effectively turning the 3 into a 4.  Although if this means that Branco plays at the back I would rather stick with Nathan back there.
You think so? I would say it's the most important.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2014-15)
Post by: Red and Proud on Wednesday, May 13, 2015, 18:48:20
I reckon we'll need a tactical re-think if we go up, otherwise we'll get torn a new one week in week out with championship teams exploiting our defence.
Premier League Groundhog Day?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2014-15)
Post by: JoeMezz on Wednesday, May 13, 2015, 19:11:35
Need a new lwb too. Jones at Chesterfield is decent


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2014-15)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, May 13, 2015, 19:52:09
I'd take the sheff u lwb in a heart beat.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2014-15)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, May 13, 2015, 20:03:17
You've more chances finding future potential Town players in the squad lists of the FA Youth Cup or U21 Development Leagues than L1 and L2.

Previous League experience? Pfffft.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2014-15)
Post by: Berniman on Thursday, May 14, 2015, 09:18:45
You think so? I would say it's the most important.

I reckon a replacement for Wes will be the most important signing.  The Belford brothers aren't good enough yet IMO.  If we don't get a decent GK then to a certain extent it doesn't matter how good your def/mid is.  Wes has won us a lot of points this season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2014-15)
Post by: Honkytonk on Thursday, May 14, 2015, 09:22:15
I reckon a replacement for Wes will be the most important signing.  The Belford brothers aren't good enough yet IMO.  If we don't get a decent GK then to a certain extent it doesn't matter how good your def/mid is.  Wes has won us a lot of points this season.

Wes has single handedly (reaction saves and the like) got us to this point. He is an absolutely fantastic keeper and whoever comes next has got a tough act to follow.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2014-15)
Post by: JayBox325 on Thursday, May 14, 2015, 09:25:36
Spend the Luongo money on a quality second keeper from Championship or a first keeper from League One maybe?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2014-15)
Post by: kerry red on Thursday, May 14, 2015, 09:31:09
So nobody thinks he'll stay when we go up


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2014-15)
Post by: Abrahammer on Thursday, May 14, 2015, 09:34:36
Doubt it, he should get contract offers worth way more than we can pay, even if we go up.

Bentley from Southend would be a dream replacement, although a lot bigger clubs than us will be sniffing around him.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2014-15)
Post by: JayBox325 on Thursday, May 14, 2015, 09:39:42
So nobody thinks he'll stay when we go up

I think there's a chance. The fact he has a close-knit group of friends he's playing with and he has been here long enough. He could be tempted to stay for an extra year. Give him an extra wedge of money on his salary from the Mass money to keep him around.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2014-15)
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, May 14, 2015, 09:42:06
Think Wes may end up at Forest. No ITK whatsoever, would just make a lot of sense for all parties.

Would love him to stay though, that low down stop towards the end on Monday was world class.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2014-15)
Post by: suttonred on Thursday, May 14, 2015, 09:48:37
Think Wes may end up at Forest. No ITK whatsoever, would just make a lot of sense for all parties.

Would love him to stay though, that low down stop towards the end on Monday was world class.

I have seen that mentioned in a paper about forest in the last couple of weeks. Hey ho. I like the way we operate now, I'd rather a promising unknown in any position than a journeyman, lessens the expectation, and eases the stress, when things do go pear shaped.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2014-15)
Post by: kerry red on Thursday, May 14, 2015, 10:08:18
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/birmingham-city-gossip-gary-rowett-9191986#rlabs=3


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2014-15)
Post by: Red Frog on Thursday, May 14, 2015, 11:19:18
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/birmingham-city-gossip-gary-rowett-9191986#rlabs=3

That photo's going to have the fans slavering with anticipation...


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2014-15)
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, May 14, 2015, 11:29:48
Spend the Luongo money on a quality second keeper from Championship or a first keeper from League One maybe?

It's likey to be another young keeper who will spend pre-season fighting it out with Ty Belford for the 1st choice spot, I personally think Ty will be a decent replacement, the only reason I think people don't like the idea is that he has been No 2 all season and not been able to dislodge Wes - but I'm not sure there's many keepers that would be able to.

He is highly rated by Power & Cooper thus they have extended his contract


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2014-15)
Post by: Panda Paws on Thursday, May 14, 2015, 11:43:33
If we go up, I'd hope we put some money to Southend for Bentley. If we don't, think we'll have Belford and a young'un as P2P says.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2014-15)
Post by: Ardiles on Thursday, May 14, 2015, 14:00:11
I suppose you might call this flattery.  The local paper in Reading lists 2 of our players in their list off 5 'lower league' targets for the summer.

Reading FC transfers: 5 Players from the Lower Leagues Royals should Look at this Summer (http://www.getreading.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/reading-fc-transfers-5-players-9248815)

Gladwin: possibly (given his local connections).
Luongo: no chance.

It would be nice to think (or hope, in Luongo's case) that both might be lining up against Reading next season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2014-15)
Post by: kerry red on Thursday, May 14, 2015, 14:02:02
I like the PNE rumour of them getting Mass for £250,000 plus Kilkenny!

Didn't know Kilkenny was valued at £3.75m


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, May 25, 2015, 10:54:58
I fully expect the Retained list to be announced in the next 24-48 hours. I'm sorry that a thread has already been created today but dammit, I've been doing this for years and I've got pictures and everything  ;)

THE CURRENT SQUAD

GOALKEEPERS

(http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicFODERINW.jpg) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicBELFORDT.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/conor%20johns_zpsissbg2lr.png?t=1429989107) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zpssjbbnsyt.png)

1. Wes Foderingham (2015)
25. Tyrell Belford (2017)
35. Connor Johns (YTS)
37. Cameron Belford (2015)

DEFENDERS

(http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicTHOMPSON.jpg) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicBYRNENAT.jpg) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicJONESMAT.jpg) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicWARDDARR.jpg)
(http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicBARTHRAJ.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zpskoh03rfx.png) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicRAPHAELR.jpg) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicHOLLAND1.jpg)

2. Nathan Thompson (2017)
3. Nathan Byrne (2016)
21. Matty Jones (2015)
22. Darren Ward (2015)
23. Jack Barthram (2015)
27. Josue Antonio (2015)
29. Raphael Branco (2017)
33. Tom Holland (YTS)

MIDFIELDERS

(http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicLUONGOMA.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zpsvrc8tzoj.png) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicKASIMYAS.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zps8npsmm4o.png)
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zps4twskjyx.png) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicAGOMBARH.jpg) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicMARSHALL.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zpsu6afwv78.png) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicWOODRYAN.jpg)

4. Massimo Luongo (2016)
7. Ben Gladwin (2017)
8. Yaser Kasim (2016)
26. Anton Rodgers (2015)
28. Tom Smith (YTS)
30. Harry Agombar (2015)
32. Lee Marshall (2016)
34. Tom Ouldridge (YTS)
39. Ryan Wood (YTS)

FORWARDS

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zpsk3tdzoiv.png) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicWILLIAM4.jpg) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicWALDONCO.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zpsow58y08e.png)
(http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicOBIKAJON.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zpspfoo93ck.png) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicRANDALLW.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zpsekocuw3x.png) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicSTOREYMI.jpg)

9. Michael Smith (2016)
10. Andy Williams (2015)
16. Connor Waldon (2015)
18. George Barker (2015)
20. Jonathan Obika (2016)
24. Jermaine Hylton (2017)
31. Will Randall (2016)
38. Josh Cooke (2016)
--. Miles Storey (2016)

STAFF

(http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicCOOPERMA.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zpsarl5u4fd.png)

Mark Cooper
Luke Williams


CURRENT SQUAD 2014/15

GOALKEEPERS
1. Wes Foderingham (2015)
25. Tyrell Belford (2015)
35. Connor Johns (YTS)
37. Cameron Belford (2015)

DEFENDERS
2. Nathan Thompson (2017)
3. Nathan Byrne (2016)
21. Matty Jones (2015)
22. Darren Ward (2015)
23. Jack Barthram (2015)
27. Josue Antonio (2015)
29. Raphael Branco (2017)
33. Tom Holland (YTS)
39. Ryan Wood (YTS)

MIDFIELDERS
4. Massimo Luongo (2016)
7. Ben Gladwin (2017)
8. Yaser Kasim (2016)
26. Anton Rodgers (2015)
28. Tom Smith (YTS)
30. Harry Agombar (2015)
32. Lee Marshall (2016)
34. Tom Ouldridge (YTS)

FORWARDS
9. Michael Smith (2016)
10. Andy Williams (2015)
16. Connor Waldon (2015)
18. George Barker (2015)
20. Jonathan Obika (2016)
24. Jermaine Hylton (2017)
31. Will Randall (2016)
38. Josh Cooke (2016)
--. Miles Storey (2016)

GOALKEEPER
DEFENDER
MIDFIELDER
FORWARD


* There maybe some errors.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 25, 2015, 11:09:28
I'm sorry that a thread has already been created today

That's the speculation thread. You still have the authoritative thread.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, May 25, 2015, 11:12:20
That's the speculation thread. You still have the authoritative thread.

YEY!

 :)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 25, 2015, 11:14:25
Wouldn't want the pictures to go to waste.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, May 25, 2015, 11:20:21
CURRENT SQUAD 2014/15

GOALKEEPERS
1. Wes Foderingham (2015)
25. Tyrell Belford (2015)
35. Connor Johns (YTS)
37. Cameron Belford (2015)

DEFENDERS
2. Nathan Thompson (2017)
3. Nathan Byrne (2016)
21. Matty Jones (2015)
22. Darren Ward (2015)
23. Jack Barthram (2015)
27. Josue Antonio (2015)
29. Raphael Branco (2017)
33. Tom Holland (YTS)
39. Ryan Wood (YTS)

MIDFIELDERS
4. Massimo Luongo (2016)
7. Ben Gladwin (2017)
8. Yaser Kasim (2016)
26. Anton Rodgers (2015)
28. Tom Smith (YTS)
30. Harry Agombar (2015)
32. Lee Marshall (2016)
34. Tom Ouldridge (YTS)

FORWARDS
9. Michael Smith (2016)
10. Andy Williams (2015)
16. Connor Waldon (2015)
18. George Barker (2015)
20. Jonathan Obika (2016)
24. Jermaine Hylton (2017)
31. Will Randall (2016)
38. Josh Cooke (2016)
--. Miles Storey (2016)

GOALKEEPER
DEFENDER
MIDFIELDER
FORWARD


* There maybe some errors.
Yikes.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Monday, May 25, 2015, 11:44:19
it's ok, we've still got Miles Storey


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Swindon Please Win on Monday, May 25, 2015, 12:38:28
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/aston-villa/11628315/Aston-Villa-launch-3.5m-raid-for-Swindon-pair.html

That's them both off, says we're holding out for £4 million for the both of them though.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: ronnie21 on Monday, May 25, 2015, 12:41:11
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/aston-villa/11628315/Aston-Villa-launch-3.5m-raid-for-Swindon-pair.html

That's them both off, says we're holding out for £4 million for the both of them though.
If they see a replay of the game they might not be so interested in Gladwin!!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, May 25, 2015, 12:44:38
If they see a replay of the game they might not be so interested in Gladwin!!

I've a hunch they wouldn't make any decision based on one game.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: SuperBosnian on Monday, May 25, 2015, 12:46:06
£4 million would be great. I'm assuming we'd get some loanees in from Villa too, although that would have happened anyway.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Monday, May 25, 2015, 13:02:44
£4 million would be great. I'm assuming we'd get some loanees in from Villa too, although that would have happened anyway.
I suspect the
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/aston-villa/11628315/Aston-Villa-launch-3.5m-raid-for-Swindon-pair.html

That's them both off, says we're holding out for £4 million for the both of them though.
I wonder whether a transfer for BOTH is to try to avoid paying Spurs a big sell on fee for Luongo? There was something on here recently about Luongo going and 4 players coming the other way - A couple on loan and a couple of permies.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, May 26, 2015, 22:44:04
I moved a few posts to the transfer rumours thread,.... 'cos that's where they belonged.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: kerry red on Wednesday, May 27, 2015, 07:33:41
I can see Randall and Marshall both being fairly regular first teamers next season so maybe we can cut down on the loans


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: JayBox325 on Wednesday, May 27, 2015, 08:27:48
Can we wait until the end of the day before updating the list of players without Mass & Gladders? I don't know if I can cope with the confirmation tweets AND our list on here at the same time...


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Kinky Tom on Wednesday, May 27, 2015, 08:41:21
I'm looking forward to seeing the back of Luongo now, his heart has clearly been elsewhere since the Asia Cup and I've a feeling we'll be seeing a reasonable amount of business in fairly quickly too.  Power has his targets and will want to pin them down.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 27, 2015, 09:04:52
I'm looking forward to seeing the back of Luongo now, his heart has clearly been elsewhere since the Asia Cup and I've a feeling we'll be seeing a reasonable amount of business in fairly quickly too.  Power has his targets and will want to pin them down.
I agree, the Mass transfer has been hanging over the club since January....just finalise it now and get it sorted.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Power to people on Wednesday, May 27, 2015, 11:46:04
Can we tick of the leavers as they leave and we can see the size of the squad left


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: JayBox325 on Wednesday, May 27, 2015, 12:09:56
I'm looking forward to seeing the back of Luongo now, his heart has clearly been elsewhere since the Asia Cup and I've a feeling we'll be seeing a reasonable amount of business in fairly quickly too.  Power has his targets and will want to pin them down.

I agree he hasn't been the same player he was before he went, but think about it like this. He has played this much football:

July 2013 - August 2013 // Pre-season training & friendlies
August 2013 - May 2014 // Full season with us playing almost every game
May 2014 - July 2014 // Socceroos training & 2014 World Cup
July 2014 - August 2014 // Pre-season training & friendlies
August 2014 - January 2015 // Season with us playing almost every game
January 2015 // Socceroos training & 2015 Asian Cup playing almost every minute
February 2015 - May 2015 // Season with us playing almost every game including play offs

He's 22. That is a shit tonne of football. Regardless of how fit you think he should be because he's a professional, the human body does have limits. He's probably so burnt out. Don't be too harsh judging him.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, May 27, 2015, 12:26:24
He's 22. That is a shit tonne of football. Regardless of how fit you think he should be because he's a professional, the human body does have limits. He's probably so burnt out. Don't be too harsh judging him.

Whilst what you said is true, its didn't seem to affect him when he played IN the Asia cup. just straight after. During which time he was happy to talk about leaving STFC. I'm sure he didn't dip in form on purpose, but you can see why people think what they do.



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, May 27, 2015, 12:35:28
July 2013 - August 2014 // Pre-season training & friendlies
That's one hell of a pre-season, no wonder he's knackered


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, May 27, 2015, 12:43:28
more mentally head fucked than physically imo


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Wednesday, May 27, 2015, 13:32:23
Plus he's a aggy little cunt


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: JayBox325 on Wednesday, May 27, 2015, 15:30:21
That's one hell of a pre-season, no wonder he's knackered

Hahah. Fixed.

more mentally head fucked than physically imo

Yeah. Either way... he's drained from all the football.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, May 27, 2015, 16:20:28
C Belford signing for Wrexham apparently


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: tans on Wednesday, May 27, 2015, 17:02:15
Only player that refused to speak to me and Ralph in the bar in town after the sponsors dinner. :D


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Samdy Gray on Wednesday, May 27, 2015, 17:03:46
The only one with sense then.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, May 27, 2015, 19:13:51
:D


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: tans on Wednesday, May 27, 2015, 19:35:25
I was well behaved wasnt i berni


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, May 27, 2015, 19:38:46
Up until 11 we can guarantee it...


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: tans on Wednesday, May 27, 2015, 19:56:58
Up until 11 we can guarantee it...

:D


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, May 28, 2015, 16:43:55
THE CURRENT SQUAD

GOALKEEPERS

(http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicBELFORDT.jpg)

25. Tyrell Belford (2017)

DEFENDERS

(http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicTHOMPSON.jpg) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicBYRNENAT.jpg)  (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicRAPHAELR.jpg)

2. Nathan Thompson (2017)
3. Nathan Byrne (2016)
29. Raphael Branco (2017)

MIDFIELDERS

(http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicKASIMYAS.jpg) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicRANDALLW.jpg) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicMARSHALL.jpg)


8. Yaser Kasim (2016)
31. Will Randall (2016)
32. Lee Marshall (2016)

FORWARDS

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zpsk3tdzoiv.png)  (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicOBIKAJON.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zpspfoo93ck.png)  (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zpsekocuw3x.png) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicSTOREYMI.jpg)

9. Michael Smith (2016)
20. Jonathan Obika (2016)
24. Jermaine Hylton (2017)
38. Josh Cooke (2016)
--. Miles Storey (2016)

STAFF

(http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicCOOPERMA.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zpsarl5u4fd.png)

Mark Cooper
Luke Williams



OUT OF CONTRACT

(http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicFODERINW.jpg)
1. Wes Foderingham (2015)

(http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicJONESMAT.jpg) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicWARDDARR.jpg) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicBARTHRAJ.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zpskoh03rfx.png)
21. Matty Jones (2015)
22. Darren Ward (2015)
23. Jack Barthram (2015)
27. Josue Antonio (2015)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zps8npsmm4o.png) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicAGOMBARH.jpg)
26. Anton Rodgers (2015)
30. Harry Agombar (2015)

(http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicWILLIAM4.jpg) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicWALDONCO.jpg)
10. Andy Williams (2015)
16. Connor Waldon (2015)

* There maybe some errors.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Ginginho on Thursday, May 28, 2015, 16:49:16
So, 3-3-4 next season then :)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: luckyluke699 on Thursday, May 28, 2015, 16:51:02
I like how said list is small enough now that we need to add pictures to bulk it out...  :clap:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, May 28, 2015, 16:55:01
 ;)

I've also removed the YTS players for now.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: luckyluke699 on Thursday, May 28, 2015, 17:11:05
So, 3-3-4 next season then :)

I dream of a team of Harry Agombars.

(and yes, he's so good you only need 9 players  :badmood:)


Title: The Squad List (Current 2014-15)
Post by: Batch on Monday, June 1, 2015, 09:32:57
unretained list from Sam:

Ten individuals will not be extending their stays with Swindon. They are Andy Williams, Wes Foderingham, Darren Ward, George Barker, Jack Barthram, Cameron Belford, Matt Jones, Josue Antonio, Connor Waldon and Harry Agombar. - See more at: http://totalswindonsport.com/2015/06/swindon-release-10-players/#sthash.7MRA1m4b.dpuf (http://totalswindonsport.com/2015/06/swindon-release-10-players/#sthash.7MRA1m4b.dpuf)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Monday, June 1, 2015, 09:37:39
No surprises there really


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Posh Red on Monday, June 1, 2015, 09:45:44
Not in Panic mode, honest, but who does that mean is left.

I actually feel quite confident that we will get some good replacements in, just have to hope that they can gel into a decent team


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, June 1, 2015, 09:46:03
No surprises there really

Big Harry's gone....


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: adje on Monday, June 1, 2015, 10:05:33
miles storey retained-mmmm


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Swindon Please Win on Monday, June 1, 2015, 10:06:20
miles storey retained-mmmm

His contract wasn't up, still has another year.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, June 1, 2015, 10:09:57
Only one I thought may be offered a new deal was Barthram but as others have said, no real surprises.



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: joteddyred on Monday, June 1, 2015, 10:13:47
I wonder if any offer was made to try and tempt either Wes and Williams?

Wes is an obvious loss and I know Williams isn't everyone's cup of tea, but he was our top goalscorer.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: lambourn red on Monday, June 1, 2015, 10:19:17
I wonder if any offer was made to try and tempt either Wes and Williams?

Wes is an obvious loss and I know Williams isn't everyone's cup of tea, but he was our top goalscorer.
I cannot imagine either are prepared to take the wage cut they would have to in order to fit the Clubs wage structure and Wes has made no secret of wanting Championship football.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Batch on Monday, June 1, 2015, 10:20:00
I assume there would be nothing to stop us offering willo a context of he got desperate..

suspect a 20 goal striker will have options mind.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Sippo on Monday, June 1, 2015, 10:22:27
Wes said he was 99% sure he was leaving, so the club probably didn't even contemplate it.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: tans on Monday, June 1, 2015, 10:50:59
Woah!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, June 1, 2015, 10:52:37
Not the first time we have seen this sort of thing. Really disappointing if true.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, June 1, 2015, 10:53:38
It seems every season somebody has a moan.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, June 1, 2015, 10:57:05
It seems every season somebody has a moan.

Apparently Matt Jones and Barthram could write a book about the goings on at Town according to their twitter chats.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Batch on Monday, June 1, 2015, 11:00:06
Not the first time we have seen this sort of thing. Really disappointing if true.

Unprofessional of Power, if true. You do wonder who is running the day to day side of things given Powers non-residential status.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, June 1, 2015, 11:00:42
Apparently Matt Jones and Barthram could write a book about the goings on at Town according to their twitter chats.

Probably should have done over the last 2 years, they don't appear to have done much else in terms of of playing!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: nigel grays a postie on Monday, June 1, 2015, 11:01:34
who did Barthram think would ring him? Cooper apparently in Marbella talking to Sheff U, Power must have used up days he is allowed in country by now? Is Sangita still there? I can understand JB and Matty Jones being pissed off at not getting real chance to shine but he has had 2 years to prove his worth and not really done so. Even when Byrne wasn't fit Cooper preferred Gladwin at right wing back v Preston at home


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, June 1, 2015, 11:02:46
Unprofessional of Power, if true. You do wonder who is running the day to day side of things given Powers non-residential status.

But we will never know will we, its not unsurprising that they may be unhappy, they have essentially just been made redundant (without any payout) and in both cases played so little football in the last few years its not going to be easy to get back into the game.

Plus we all think that our employers are doing a shit job and that we could do it better, I suspect football is no different!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: JoeMezz on Monday, June 1, 2015, 11:03:12
Bartram is useless. End of discussion


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Batch on Monday, June 1, 2015, 11:03:22
Wes has just posted his thanks and goodbye via twitter (its a pic). Good luck to him.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Batch on Monday, June 1, 2015, 11:04:35
who did Barthram think would ring him?

Oh come on, nobody should have to read about these things via the website. Though its hard to imagine he didn't know.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Batch on Monday, June 1, 2015, 11:05:42
But we will never know will we, its not unsurprising that they may be unhappy,

No, no, I get they have a axe to grind. Its the supposed lack of phone call that irks.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: pauld on Monday, June 1, 2015, 11:05:54
Unprofessional of Power, if true. You do wonder who is running the day to day side of things given Powers non-residential status.
Presumably Steve Anderson, the General Manager. Whether this falls into his ambit or Power's as Director of Football, and indeed whether it's actually true, is another matter, of course.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Batch on Monday, June 1, 2015, 11:07:36
Presumably Steve Anderson, the General Manager.

Totally forgot we had a general manager, not that talking to the press is necessarily his job.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, June 1, 2015, 11:07:58
Oh come on, nobody should have to read about these things via the website. Though its hard to imagine he didn't know.

Well as we all did, I would hope that he knew - didn't the players all know way before the play off final (or am I imagining that) - as the FA needed to know?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Monday, June 1, 2015, 11:08:03
Perhaps they assumed Cooper would do it as he deals with them day to day, but he's a bit busy up in Sheffield...


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, June 1, 2015, 11:10:11
Perhaps they assumed Cooper would do it as he deals with them day to day, but he's a bit busy up in Sheffield...

Isn't he in Marbella talking to Sheff Utd) - where Wes is off to shortly (According to twatter) - could be a rumour to start there!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, June 1, 2015, 11:13:44
Wes has just posted his thanks and goodbye via twitter (its a pic). Good luck to him.

One thing that does look good is that the keepers do seem to have a bot of love for Steve Hale which also seems to suggest he is doing a good job as Belford (C) also quite positive about him!

I think that Aaron Moody also said that Hale helped him grow as a man, but that may be another thing entirely!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Batch on Monday, June 1, 2015, 11:17:27
One thing that does look good is that the keepers do seem to have a bot of love for Steve Hale which also seems to suggest he is doing a good job as Belford (C) also quite positive about him!

Guess they've had enough keeper coaches to know a good one.

Quote
I think that Aaron Moody also said that Hale helped him grow as a man, but that may be another thing entirely!

 :clap:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: pauld on Monday, June 1, 2015, 11:21:38
Totally forgot we had a general manager, not that talking to the press is necessarily his job.
No, but the discussion was about who should have notified the players they were being released, or instructed a minion to do so.


Title: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Batch on Monday, June 1, 2015, 11:32:36
I meant generally, not heard from him about anything hence forgetting he existed.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, June 1, 2015, 11:51:12
Looks like Barthram's deleted his twitter account,


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, June 1, 2015, 12:01:16
What a nice little meltdown that was.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: singingiiiffy on Monday, June 1, 2015, 12:08:33
I'm sure I heard all players were informed last week but the list wouldn't released to the public straight away


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Posh Red on Monday, June 1, 2015, 12:52:41
I thought someone had posted here that Barthram had already said he want going to stay and had something else lined up.

If that was the case surely he wouldn't be surprised not to be offered a new contract.

FWIW I thought he was ok, and had some potential, but as others have said the fact that we preferred to play other people out of position rather than him suggests that Cooper didn't really rate him


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: @mwooly63 on Monday, June 1, 2015, 13:12:51
Looks like Barthram's deleted his twitter account,

New one is @JPB_1993  :wink:
Apparently was getting some abuse tho fuck knows what for

Edit
Though even that isnt safe  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

(http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab225/mark_woolhouse/JPBTWITTER_zpst9mwjz9f.jpg)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, June 1, 2015, 13:14:30
I thought someone had posted here that Barthram had already said he want going to stay and had something else lined up.

If that was the case surely he wouldn't be surprised not to be offered a new contract.

FWIW I thought he was ok, and had some potential, but as others have said the fact that we preferred to play other people out of position rather than him suggests that Cooper didn't really rate him
Exeter have offered him a contract after his trial but aren't bothering with Barker after they both went there for a few days.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: JayBox325 on Monday, June 1, 2015, 13:43:11
New one is @JPB_1993  :wink:
Apparently was getting some abuse tho fuck knows what for

Edit
Though even that isnt safe  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

(http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab225/mark_woolhouse/JPBTWITTER_zpst9mwjz9f.jpg)

No need. The have the right to be aggravated. Not for the fact that they've been let go, but because they had to find out via the public announcement. That's not very professional.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: joteddyred on Monday, June 1, 2015, 14:01:04
If they genuinely did found out via the list being published by the press, that is very poor.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, June 1, 2015, 14:12:11
No need. The have the right to be aggravated. Not for the fact that they've been let go, but because they had to find out via the public announcement. That's not very professional.

I love the way that whatever happens in life, posters on here will immediately accept anything negative written about the club. We have no idea what the actual process was (although I am sure it was confirmed that the players were told a few weeks back so not sure how this has come 'via the media') apart from posts made by two embittered ex employees who may now struggle to find employment (for which I do genuinely feel sympathy for them).


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: ronnie21 on Monday, June 1, 2015, 14:22:23
If they genuinely did found out via the list being published by the press, that is very poor.
I am convinced that it was said that the players who were leaving had been told about three weeks ago, no announcements whilst we were still chasing promotion - why it was delayed for a week after Wembley i have no idea.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: pauld on Monday, June 1, 2015, 14:59:24
Maybe a bit of both - players had been told informally but were expecting a formal "Thank you and fuck off" letter/call/email/pigeon post before the official announcement, club thought they'd already informed them so just went ahead with announcement? (I have no actual knowledge, just a possible suggestion as to how these kinds of misunderstandings happen)

Either way, storm in a teacup, hope the released players find a new club quickly so they can get on with their careers.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, June 1, 2015, 15:00:27
Bartram's apologising now.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Monday, June 1, 2015, 19:56:39
One thing that does look good is that the keepers do seem to have a bot of love for Steve Hale which also seems to suggest he is doing a good job as Belford (C) also quite positive about him!

I think that Aaron Moody also said that Hale helped him grow as a man, but that may be another thing entirely!

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :clap:

Seriously though, whatever happens, people seem to always defend the players regardless of not knowing the facts..

Shame the players couldn't defend too, eh?  :D :D


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Monday, June 1, 2015, 20:16:11
So what does the remaining squad list actually look like?..


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Charlie Henry on Monday, June 1, 2015, 20:24:42
see page 1!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Monday, June 1, 2015, 20:27:38
see page 1!

Effort!!  :-[


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, June 1, 2015, 20:37:05
THE CURRENT SQUAD

GOALKEEPERS

(http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicBELFORDT.jpg)

25. Tyrell Belford (2017)

DEFENDERS

(http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicTHOMPSON.jpg) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicBYRNENAT.jpg)  (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicRAPHAELR.jpg)

2. Nathan Thompson (2017)
3. Nathan Byrne (2016)
29. Raphael Branco (2017)

MIDFIELDERS

(http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicKASIMYAS.jpg) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicRANDALLW.jpg) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicMARSHALL.jpg)


8. Yaser Kasim (2016)
31. Will Randall (2016)
32. Lee Marshall (2016)

FORWARDS

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zpsk3tdzoiv.png)  (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicOBIKAJON.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zpspfoo93ck.png)  (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zpsekocuw3x.png) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicSTOREYMI.jpg)

9. Michael Smith (2016)
20. Jonathan Obika (2016)
24. Jermaine Hylton (2017)
38. Josh Cooke (2016)
--. Miles Storey (2016)

STAFF

(http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicCOOPERMA.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zpsarl5u4fd.png)

Mark Cooper
Luke Williams



OUT OF CONTRACT

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zps8npsmm4o.png)
26. Anton Rodgers (2015)

* There maybe some errors.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Abrahammer on Monday, June 1, 2015, 20:44:58
Yikes, that's the definition of threadbare.

Not that it really matters as its June 1st


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, June 1, 2015, 20:47:38
Yikes, that's the definition of threadbare.

Not that it really matters as its June 1st

It looks like you can take 3 or 4 out of that list also......Byrne, Storey, Smith, and I'd have thought Kasim might have his suitors.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Monday, June 1, 2015, 20:55:47
Kasim will be top dog next season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: WEBBERhyde on Monday, June 1, 2015, 21:27:20
Would you not think that not having a piece of paper and a pen waved under your nose is a bit of a giveaway that you're not getting a new contract? Surely a player looking to renew their contract would be having some sort of dialogue with the club in the closing weeks of the season even before that?

Or maybe he was just sat about with his thumb up his arse?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: luckyluke699 on Monday, June 1, 2015, 21:40:58
August 9th is a LONG way away... I'm sure there are plenty of irons in the fire in the background!



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, June 2, 2015, 10:24:44
We're sorted up front at least!


Title: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, June 2, 2015, 10:31:15
Quote
We're sorted up front at least!
need 1 more imho. Hylton looks good so far but has a lot to do to step up.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, June 2, 2015, 10:39:00
We're sorted up front at least!

Hang on Willo's gone, Mighty Mike is attracting bids, Storey has been told he's not required, so that leaves Beaker and Hylton, with the boy Cooke as back up.

Not easy finding a 20 goal frontman....for me selling Mighty Mike would be an error, but we know everyone has a price.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, June 2, 2015, 10:43:19
Based on nothing - Hylton is going to be awesome next season. Him and Obika are going to fire us to 14th place.


Title: Re: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Honkytonk on Wednesday, June 3, 2015, 08:21:28
Based on nothing - Hylton is going to be awesome next season. Him and Obika are going to fire us to 14th place.
Don't get overexcited you might strain something.

I do honestly look forward to seeing Obika and Hylton up front together next season. If Smith stays I am afraid he might play second fiddle to them a tad. Not that I dislike him of course, he's a good player orbit can sort his first bloody touch out.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, June 3, 2015, 08:25:54
Not going to write Hylton off, but his legs currently work faster than his brain. Hopefully a full pre season and coaching he might be good in 6 months time.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Wednesday, June 3, 2015, 08:53:38
Not going to write Hylton off, but his legs currently work faster than his brain. Hopefully a full pre season and coaching he might be good in 6 months time.

He's raw certainly, and needs a lot of work but we'd have said the same about Gladwin 12 months ago.
And we've just sold him for more than we got for Fjortoft

(admittedly not taking 21 years of inflation into account)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, June 3, 2015, 09:03:03
Yeah I was sort of getting at the Gladwin scenario, it will take him a while, so don't see him as being first choice until he's fully up to speed.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: THE FLASH on Wednesday, June 3, 2015, 17:33:07
Not going to write Hylton off, but his legs currently work faster than his brain. Hopefully a full pre season and coaching he might be good in 6 months time.

I would of taken that over the 'clever' cunts at Wembley.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Wednesday, June 3, 2015, 17:44:01
Storey with another year...unbelievable.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Wednesday, June 3, 2015, 18:35:49
Storey with another year...unbelievable.

How did you not see that coming? He's been contracted for that long for the past two years. #ITK


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Swindon Please Win on Thursday, June 11, 2015, 14:53:53
http://www.flicwiltshire.com/STFC/Reports-suggest-Kasim-is-looking-to-move-on-to-pastures-new-this-summer-.aspx

What a surprise, hope we hold out for at least £1 million even though he has a year left.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: JayBox325 on Thursday, June 11, 2015, 14:56:49
http://www.flicwiltshire.com/STFC/Reports-suggest-Kasim-is-looking-to-move-on-to-pastures-new-this-summer-.aspx

What a surprise, hope we hold out for at least £1 million even though he has a year left.

He doesn't have to go until his contract's up. So we can still have some say over how much he goes for. I think.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Bogus Dave on Thursday, June 11, 2015, 16:27:56
I think kasims flaws are too many to suggest we'd get a million pound for him. 500k max


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: tans on Thursday, June 11, 2015, 16:34:51
Good player, inconsistent.

Both seasons was quality at the start and crap from january onwards


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Bogus Dave on Thursday, June 11, 2015, 16:38:35
Needs 3 in midfield and doesn't track back. The most gifted manipulator of the ball I've seen in a town shirt, but I don't think it's being reviosionist to say he's got significant flaws that will (and have) hold him back.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: kerry red on Thursday, June 11, 2015, 16:53:18
Bit of a disruptive influence behind the scenes, I'm led to believe.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: tans on Thursday, June 11, 2015, 17:00:48
What you heard chang


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, June 11, 2015, 17:04:33
What you heard chang

 ;D


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, June 11, 2015, 18:24:44
Sad to see him go, he was better than Luongo in the run in. Didn't expect him to stay. Nor Byrne for that matter.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, June 30, 2015, 16:45:23
What did they feed Miles at Newport?*

(http://totalswindonsport.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Seven.jpg)

(http://www.flicwiltshire.com/uploaded_files/6299/images/Storey.jpg)

* NOTE: This is mostly a joke.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: JayBox325 on Tuesday, June 30, 2015, 17:03:23
What did they feed Miles at Newport?*

(http://totalswindonsport.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Seven.jpg)

(http://www.flicwiltshire.com/uploaded_files/6299/images/Storey.jpg)

* NOTE: This is mostly a joke.

In fairness, it looks more like he's grown into his frame since we've last seen him. He's always been tall, but now he has the chest (clearly has bigger shoulders in the STFC shirt pic).

* NOTE: I noticed your note about it being a joke :)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, June 30, 2015, 17:05:20
Someone needs to have a word with him about his barnet.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, June 30, 2015, 17:11:34
He looks a hard cunt now. Somebody else can tell him about his barnet. Now he's beefed up a bit, we might even have a player on our hands.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Barry Scott on Tuesday, June 30, 2015, 19:27:31
He looks like he enjoys having seconds at meal time to me. Hopefully Power can clarify this as it's making me feel violent.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Ells on Wednesday, July 1, 2015, 00:53:23
I live in South Wales and one of my friends who used to live in Newport swears they once sent a helicopter out to catch a guy who stole 1 pasty from Greggs. Could explain a lot.

*NOTE this isn't a joke but it's obviously nothing to do with Miles. He probably prefers Subway or summat.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, July 1, 2015, 06:25:12
I live in South Wales and one of my friends who used to live in Newport swears they once sent a helicopter out to catch a guy who stole 1 pasty from Greggs. Could explain a lot.

*NOTE this isn't a joke but it's obviously nothing to do with Miles. He probably prefers Subway or summat.

Miles Storey strikes me as a *shudder* 'cheeky' Nandos sort of guy.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, July 1, 2015, 08:16:27
I live in South Wales and one of my friends who used to live in Newport swears they once sent a helicopter out to catch a guy who stole 1 pasty from Greggs. Could explain a lot.

*NOTE this isn't a joke but it's obviously nothing to do with Miles. He probably prefers Subway or summat.

 Must have been Summit to do with the NATO get together hosted by Cameron at Celtic Manor last year....zero tolerance, first Greggs, next the White House.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Panda Paws on Wednesday, July 1, 2015, 08:18:53
Miles Storey needs to leave for his own sake, and no doubt will do.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Sir Pissalot on Wednesday, July 1, 2015, 11:09:33
Yasser and Nathan B are present in the "Day 2" training pics on the OS.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, July 2, 2015, 11:39:37
BOO!

BOO deal confirmed. 2 year deal.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Hitchinred on Thursday, July 2, 2015, 18:36:43
Sky Sports reporting Anton Rodgers signing two year extension.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Thursday, July 2, 2015, 18:44:10
The team train at my gym now and apparently 22 players turned up for fitness today - lots of trialists  apparently


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Boy About Town on Thursday, July 2, 2015, 19:15:02
Which gym is that, hope its not the Marriott


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Saxondale on Thursday, July 2, 2015, 19:30:52
The team train at my gym now and apparently 22 players turned up for fitness today - lots of trialists  apparently

What the one up by my kids ballet?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Thursday, July 2, 2015, 19:45:31
Yeah Body Revolution in Pewsham - makes sense I guess as they train at Beversbrook now


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Saxondale on Thursday, July 2, 2015, 19:53:08
Jesus.  Just one more reason for me to not go there.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Thursday, July 2, 2015, 20:53:31
It's ok they only go between 11-3 when the gyms closed to normal people anyway


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Saxondale on Thursday, July 2, 2015, 21:06:14
Aww.  Im sure there would have been ledge bantz.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Thursday, July 2, 2015, 21:17:01
Would be on flames


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, July 2, 2015, 21:17:12
Jesus.  Just one more reason for me to not go there.


I bet that's scuppered your plans.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Saxondale on Thursday, July 2, 2015, 22:01:38
Yep.  Ill eat cake instead.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, July 2, 2015, 22:13:30
Yep.  Ill eat cake instead.

Green tea cake?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Saxondale on Friday, July 3, 2015, 07:54:27
I wont eat cake really.  Ill just go to the olympiad gym instead.  Where there might be a slightly less ladsy atmosphere and I can go unnoticed.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, August 3, 2015, 15:43:08
THE CURRENT SQUAD

GOALKEEPERS

(http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicBELFORDT.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Lawrence%20Vigouroux_zpstndo8eb0.png)

25. Tyrell Belford (2017)
--. Lawrence Vigouroux (LOAN)

DEFENDERS

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/THOMPSON_zpsmvpw1xmt.png) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zpslzzirsqn.png) (http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicRAPHAELR.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/e467ae99-1e1d-4575-b5e8-4ac67be7541a_zpsys0prb7k.png) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/kevinstewart_zpscppppwmh.png)
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/JordanWilliams_zpsouk6anwx.png)


2. Nathan Thompson (2017)
6. Jordan Turnbull (LOAN)
29. Raphael Branco (2017)
--. Brandon Ormonde-Ottewill (2017)
--. Kevin Stewart (LOAN)
--. Jordan Williams (LOAN)

MIDFIELDERS

(http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicBYRNENAT.jpg) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicKASIMYAS.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zps8npsmm4o.png) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicRANDALLW.jpg) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicMARSHALL.jpg)
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Robert_zpsl3yiimia.png) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/TRAORE_zpswpcdvvkt.png)

8. Yaser Kasim (2016)
10. Nathan Byrne (2016)
26. Anton Rodgers (2017)
31. Will Randall (2016)
32. Lee Marshall (2016)
--. Fabien Robert (2016)
--. Drissa Traore (2016)

FORWARDS

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zpsk3tdzoiv.png) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicOBIKAJON.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zpspfoo93ck.png) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Josh%20Cooke_zpstmpko43v.png)

9. Michael Smith (2016)
20. Jonathan Obika (2016)
24. Jermaine Hylton (2017)
38. Josh Cooke (2016)

WILDERNESS

(http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicSTOREYMI.jpg)

--. Miles Storey (2016)

* There may be some errors.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: BruceChatwin on Monday, August 3, 2015, 17:30:06
* There maybe some errors.

*may be some errors.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, August 3, 2015, 17:32:32
*may be some errors.

Congratulations  ;)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, August 3, 2015, 18:25:32
So via this Phone-In.

(Byrne has the number 10 shirt)

Brophy likely to join.

Still no confirmation on Barry and Eckersley but they're still here.

No offers for Smith.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, August 3, 2015, 18:31:03
...and Kent is unlikely.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Skinny Pete on Monday, August 3, 2015, 18:34:09
Rodgers wants him to come here.

Must carry some weight


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Monday, August 3, 2015, 18:39:40
Missed the start ... what was said about Ajose?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, August 3, 2015, 18:41:02
Missed the start ... what was said about Ajose?

Wasn't completely dismissed but didn't seem to be keen financially.

Nile Ranger calls Mark Cooper trying to come back.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, August 3, 2015, 18:41:41
Why Storey?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Tuesday, August 4, 2015, 05:52:22
It's all getting a bit more exciting..


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Honkytonk on Tuesday, August 4, 2015, 09:40:58
Nile Ranger calls Mark Cooper trying to come back.

Shock Horror.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Tuesday, August 4, 2015, 09:47:35
Wasn't completely dismissed but didn't seem to be keen financially.

Nile Ranger calls Mark Cooper trying to come back.

Really?..


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, August 4, 2015, 09:50:53
Really?..

Unless Cooper was joking, of course. It seemed genuine.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: tans on Tuesday, August 4, 2015, 10:23:08
He told us this at the dinner


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Tuesday, August 4, 2015, 10:49:03
Haha wow.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, August 4, 2015, 11:40:04
Quote
Lawrence Vigouroux ‏@LawrenceV93  14m14 minutes ago
Very happy to have joined @Official_STFC on loan for the season! ⚽

That's that confirmed than.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Tuesday, August 4, 2015, 12:35:39
That's that confirmed than.

Love it.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, August 6, 2015, 15:56:15
Brophy has signed then.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, August 6, 2015, 16:01:12
Which one is Brophy again?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, August 6, 2015, 16:07:51
The ginger full-back, I think.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, August 6, 2015, 16:17:11
Squad numbers:

1. Lawrence Vigouroux
2. Nathan Thompson (C)
3. Brandon Ormonde-Ottewill
4. Fabien Robert
5. Jordan Williams
6. Jordan Turnbull
7. Drissa Traore
8. Yaser Kasim
9. Michael Smith
10. Nathan Byrne
11. Kevin Stewart
15. James Brophy
20. Jonathan Obika
21. Will Randall
22. Lee Marshall
23. Josh Cooke
24. Jermaine Hylton
25. Tyrell Belford
26. Anton Rodgers
28. Ellis Iandolo
29. Raphael Rossi Branco

 


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: tans on Thursday, August 6, 2015, 16:18:28
Not even a squad number for Storey :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, August 6, 2015, 16:20:08
Squad numbers:

1. Lawrence Vigouroux
2. Nathan Thompson (C)
3. Brandon Ormonde-Ottewill
4. Fabien Robert
5. Jordan Williams
6. Jordan Turnbull
7. Drissa Traore
8. Yaser Kasim
9. Michael Smith
10. Nathan Byrne
11. Kevin Stewart
15. James Brophy
20. Jonathan Obika
21. Will Randall
22. Lee Marshall
23. Josh Cooke
24. Jermaine Hylton
25. Tyrell Belford
26. Anton Rodgers
28. Ellis Iandolo
29. Raphael Rossi Branco

 

Brophy there but no Barry or Eckersley


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, August 6, 2015, 16:20:17
Have we actually signed Brophy?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, August 6, 2015, 16:21:04
Have we actually signed Brophy?

Yes.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, August 6, 2015, 16:21:43
The ginger full-back, I think.

Is that not Eckersley or are we just gathering gingers?

http://www.flicwiltshire.com/STFC/Discussions-ongoing-over-futures-of-Brophy-Eckersley-and-Bradley-.aspx


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: suttonred on Thursday, August 6, 2015, 16:23:09
Shit, there's no depth whatsoever when you look at it in black and white. Lets hope no early injuries.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: suttonred on Thursday, August 6, 2015, 16:30:38
Brophy signing is on the OS 1yr


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: FormerlyPlymRed on Thursday, August 6, 2015, 17:00:10
I would assume barry and eckersley are still in discussions. Can't give a number to a player if they haven't signed for us


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: @mwooly63 on Thursday, August 6, 2015, 17:19:59
I would assume barry and eckersley are still in discussions. Can't give a number to a player if they haven't signed for us

ASD posted Eckersley has gone


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Skinny Pete on Thursday, August 6, 2015, 17:21:10
By 'eck!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: suttonred on Thursday, August 6, 2015, 17:24:12
ASD posted Eckersley has gone

Probably me being blind, but i cant see that anywhere?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, August 6, 2015, 17:37:03
Me neither.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, August 6, 2015, 17:44:49
Glenn ‏@GlennRichards8 34m34 minutes ago - @andrew_FLICW ne news on the lad who was on trial defender who was at Man United what was his name.

Andrew Steele-Davis ‏@andrew_FLICW 31m31 minutes ago
@GlennRichards8 Richard Eckersley. Let go. Imagine wages were a problem


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Thursday, August 6, 2015, 17:46:36
Makes you wonder why we bothered taking him on trial to begin with.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, August 6, 2015, 17:47:24
THE CURRENT SQUAD

GOALKEEPERS

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Lawrence%20Vigouroux_zpstndo8eb0.png) (http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicBELFORDT.jpg)

1. Lawrence Vigouroux (LOAN)
25. Tyrell Belford (2017)

DEFENDERS

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/THOMPSON_zpsmvpw1xmt.png) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/e467ae99-1e1d-4575-b5e8-4ac67be7541a_zpsys0prb7k.png) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/JordanWilliams_zpsouk6anwx.png) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zpslzzirsqn.png) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/kevinstewart_zpscppppwmh.png)
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/BROPHY_zpsxhnzfgb9.png) (http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicRAPHAELR.jpg)

2. Nathan Thompson (2017)
3. Brandon Ormonde-Ottewill (2017)
5. Jordan Williams (LOAN)
6. Jordan Turnbull (LOAN)
11. Kevin Stewart (LOAN)
15. James Brophy (2016)
29. Raphael Branco (2017)


MIDFIELDERS

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Robert_zpsl3yiimia.png) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/TRAORE_zpswpcdvvkt.png) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicKASIMYAS.jpg) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicBYRNENAT.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zps8npsmm4o.png)
(http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicRANDALLW.jpg) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicMARSHALL.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Iandolo_zpsagpanuwk.png)

4. Fabien Robert (2016)
7. Drissa Traore (2016)
8. Yaser Kasim (2016)
10. Nathan Byrne (2016)
21. Will Randall (2016)
22. Lee Marshall (2016)
26. Anton Rodgers (2017)
28. Ellis Iandolo (2016)

FORWARDS

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zpsk3tdzoiv.png) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicOBIKAJON.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Josh%20Cooke_zpstmpko43v.png) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Untitled_zpspfoo93ck.png)

9. Michael Smith (2016)
20. Jonathan Obika (2016)
23. Josh Cooke (2016)
24. Jermaine Hylton (2017)

WILDERNESS

(http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicSTOREYMI.jpg)

--. Miles Storey (2016)

* There may be some errors.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: @mwooly63 on Thursday, August 6, 2015, 17:47:40
Cheers Batch thats the one


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, August 6, 2015, 18:02:22
Makes you wonder why we bothered taking him on trial to begin with.

Not really, they may have thought they might be able to strike a deal. Or it could be that he wanted a promise of starting each week which we couldn't offer.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Thursday, August 6, 2015, 18:16:02
Not even a squad number for Storey :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:
Get in, it's staggering he's managed to live off two goals for so long.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, August 6, 2015, 18:56:45
Get in, it's staggering he's managed to live off two goals for so long.

It's the second season in a row that he hasn't has a squad number at Swindon.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, August 6, 2015, 19:02:23
No idea what happened with his development, up until that penalty miss at Brentford he looked a decent prospect


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, August 6, 2015, 19:45:23
No idea what happened with his development, up until that penalty miss at Brentford he looked a decent prospect

And we signed him on a new contract thereafter. Then virtually froze him out in favour of George fucking Barker.

Most odd. He may well be "shit", but still say he wasn't given a fair crack to prove/disprove it. Has he got some clause in his contract one wonders.

Oh and to add controversy, not seen any more from Hylton than Storey...yet (edit: don't get me wrong, he seems to have something, hope he scores a shit load obviously).


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: suttonred on Thursday, August 6, 2015, 20:00:08
Yeah I'm with you on that.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Thursday, August 6, 2015, 23:51:34
Storey is an odd one. Like many have said, he was obviously kept on for a reason (at one point)..

Seemed to score a shit load for the juniors and ressies, but I wonder if he'll actually go anywhere and make a real impact, or whether he'll end up somewhere like Eastleigh etc..


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, August 8, 2015, 16:21:51
Andrew Steele-Davis ‏@andrew_FLICW  17s18 seconds ago
Mark Cooper confirms Brad Barry has signed a one-year deal at The County Ground.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: theakston2k on Saturday, August 8, 2015, 16:51:10
Andrew Steele-Davis ‏@andrew_FLICW  17s18 seconds ago
Mark Cooper confirms Brad Barry has signed a one-year deal at The County Ground.
Ah well it's not like he's been thrown into the first team or anything, not even in the squad today. I'd imagine he's cheap also, might be more about numbers for development games than anything else. At least he doesn't have any links to Jed!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Batch on Saturday, August 8, 2015, 18:03:57
agombarry


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, August 8, 2015, 19:43:50
Still in negations with Eckersley then


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: suttonred on Saturday, August 8, 2015, 19:50:19
Still in negations with Eckersley then

Where's that stated?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, August 8, 2015, 19:59:55
http://totalswindonsport.com/2015/08/power-hints-at-eckersley-deal/


Title: Re: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: horlock07 on Saturday, August 8, 2015, 20:06:33
agombarry
Think that's a bit unfair, Barry does seem to have come through at Brighton for a couple of years and has some history with Williams?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: THE FLASH on Saturday, August 8, 2015, 20:33:44
Smith gone......??


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: suttonred on Saturday, August 8, 2015, 20:37:00
http://totalswindonsport.com/2015/08/power-hints-at-eckersley-deal/

Cheers never saw that. Can he play upfront?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Batch on Saturday, August 8, 2015, 21:21:09
Think that's a bit unfair, Barry does seem to have come through at Brighton for a couple of years and has some history with Williams?

So did Barker.

I'll concede that its a little unfair, but based on what I saw in pre-season he looked miles off! Young players of course need a bit of time before you truly know.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, August 8, 2015, 21:24:05
It does sound to me as though power is giving a favour to one of his mates.

Personally, I couldn't give a flying fuck!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, August 10, 2015, 13:34:44
Josh Cook joins cheltenham on loan until January.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Monday, August 10, 2015, 13:39:10
Would suggest at least one new attacking player before Saturday then?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, August 10, 2015, 13:44:29
Josh Cook joins cheltenham on loan until January.

Great move for him and us. I had him down for the standard Supermarine and/or Chippenham transfer.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Batch on Monday, August 10, 2015, 14:07:15
we must have another forward coming in then.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: newmarket red on Monday, August 10, 2015, 14:17:10
we must have another forward coming in then.
you would hope so the squad is smaller enough as it is . :(


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Batch on Monday, August 10, 2015, 14:36:17
any word on Hylton


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: JayBox325 on Monday, August 10, 2015, 14:50:47
any word on Hylton

Broken Collarbone.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: tans on Monday, August 10, 2015, 15:07:48
Somebody posted that leeds are gonna offer 800k and ajose on loan for nathan byrne.

No idea how true that is


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Skinny Pete on Monday, August 10, 2015, 15:15:47
Doubtful. They have just signed winger Stuart Dallas from Brentford


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Batch on Monday, August 10, 2015, 15:41:18
Quote from: JayBox325
Quote
any word on Hylton
Broken Collarbone.

damn, was hoping they called that wrong.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, August 10, 2015, 15:56:43
Broken Collarbone.
 
damn, was hoping they called that wrong.

In cycling terms a break is better than the sort of ligament damage than Louis got....it's a shame for the kid though.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Monday, August 10, 2015, 15:59:37
Looking at the highlights, Hylton gets straight up after being decked. Hard as fuck.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Tuesday, August 11, 2015, 10:37:32
Josh Cook joins cheltenham on loan until January.

I bet he's buzzing to play at the World Of Smile Stadium...

Decent move though.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, August 18, 2015, 11:29:03
Looks like Smudgers move to Barnsley is dying, no thanks to that Jermaine Hylton.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33960041


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Skinny Pete on Tuesday, August 18, 2015, 11:29:52
Good. He's a cracking L1 striker.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Riddick on Tuesday, September 1, 2015, 18:20:27
What a shambles our business has been this summer. All for keeping back some of the money to improve the club and help build towards the future. Though it should be noted its not being spent in an area that could increase income and allow for further on pitch development but it all has to be done.

One of the most thin and poor squads we've got. Lots of pressure on young lads to kick on this season.

GK's

1. Lawrence Vigouroux (LOAN)
25. Tyrell Belford (2017)

Ok but what happened to BBC wilts 'understanding' of a permanent deal?

Defence

2. Nathan Thompson (2017)
3. Brandon Ormonde-Ottewill (2017)
5. Jordan Williams (LOAN)
6. Jordan Turnbull (LOAN)
11. Kevin Stewart (LOAN)
15. James Brophy (2016)
27. Brad Barry (2016)
29. Raphael Branco (2017)

8 looks good and we have cover. Barry there is a huge question mark about rightly or wrongly. Good luck to Brophy but we would be loaning him out if we could so really we have 6 and Stewart is covering Midfield as well.

Midfield

4. Fabien Robert (2016)
7. Drissa Traore (2016)
8. Yaser Kasim (2016)
21. Will Randall (2016)
22. Lee Marshall (2016)
26. Anton Rodgers (2017)
28. Ellis Iandolo (2016)

The real worry in the squad! Iandolo is a random 17 year old, can't really be considered. Marshall/Randall have potential but not enough for Cooper to play them ahead of playing the CB Williams there instead in recent games. So we have 4 and Robert is playing as a forward! No creativity here if Robert plays as one of the 3 up top. As we watched on Sat Traore/Kasim/Rodgers are too tippy tappy and none of them can do something to create some space. Ideally Robert would play in here with Kasim/Traore but that leaves us with problems up top.

Forwards

--. Jordan Stewart (2017)
--. Wes Thomas (2016 - January)
--. Jeremy Balmy (2016)
20. Jonathan Obika (2016)
24. Jermaine Hylton (2017)

No idea if that Balmy one has happened but assuming not as nothing official. Thats 4 players for the front 3 positions, so one player as cover? 2 if you include Robert here but then you have nothing beyond the 3 in midfield.

The squad is so light and just doesn't seem to have the flair/attacking quality/nouse that we have had last 2 years and i can't believe we've done nothing about it. We've swapped Luongo/Gladwin/Byrne/Williams for Traore/J Stewart/Robert.

We have 15 real pro's and that includes 2 gk's and Hylton who has barely proved anything yet. It doesn't count J Stewart.

You are only allowed 5 loan players in the squad as well and we already have that so we can't cover any problems which we will have with that few number of players and as we are having now. Had hoped we could do better than this.






Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, September 1, 2015, 18:22:29
I was jumping the gun on Balmy.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: corner on Tuesday, September 1, 2015, 18:23:28
What's going to happen next year so many are out of contract,


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, September 1, 2015, 18:24:19
What's going to happen next year so many are out of contract,
Pretty sure there are options on a few of them,

otherwise, the model is broken!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Tuesday, September 1, 2015, 18:24:39
There is no next year.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Riddick on Tuesday, September 1, 2015, 18:27:04
What's going to happen next year so many are out of contract,

Thats part of the problem with the recruitment this summer. Where are the next £1m players to keep funding this model?

Options don't work. We take up the extra year to try and get some money ala Byrne this year but the real money and negotiation is having longer term contracts which we don't have with people. I want to say there are more gambles in the squad but as we've paid nothing for them they are not really gambles other than a footballing sense. Where are the high risk high reward players like Luongo? Why have we not looked at that this season?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Riddick on Tuesday, September 1, 2015, 20:08:18
http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/swindon_town_2014/13639429.Town_still_hopeful_over_deal_for_Ojamaa/

this helps with numbers if both are confirmed and one of them has some experience at least


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, September 1, 2015, 20:11:03
I was jumping the gun on Balmy.

I think Power confirmed Balmy


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: @mwooly63 on Tuesday, September 1, 2015, 20:14:17
I think Power confirmed Balmy

He did


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, September 1, 2015, 20:26:21
Thats part of the problem with the recruitment this summer. Where are the next £1m players to keep funding this model?

Options don't work. We take up the extra year to try and get some money ala Byrne this year but the real money and negotiation is having longer term contracts which we don't have with people. I want to say there are more gambles in the squad but as we've paid nothing for them they are not really gambles other than a footballing sense. Where are the high risk high reward players like Luongo? Why have we not looked at that this season?
No offence but you are talking nonsense, let's do a direct comparison just to humour you:

Fods = replaced by Vigs
Belford = still here

N Thompson = still here
Branco = still here
Turnbull = still here
Stephens = replaced by Williams
Toffolo = replaced by BOO
Ricketts = not replaced (big loss?)
Bartram = Brophy

Kasim = still here
Byrne = replaced by J Stewart, a punt yes but why not
Luongo = Kevin Stewart
Gladwin = Robert
L Thompson = Traore
Swift = not relaced but ran out of room in squad last season.
Rogers = Still here

Obika = still here
A Williams = Wes Thomas
Hylton = Still here
M Smith = not replaced

Have I missed anyone?

So out of last seasons main players (approximately 20 of them) we've got players in 17 of the areas with just Ricketts, Swift and Smith not replaced. This doesn't include Barry, Balmy or the Estonian guy which you could say covers at least 1 of the numbers. Also maybe a couple of our youths might make an impact?

Yes we have taken a few punts but numbers wise we aren't really any different and let's face it bar Williams and Ricketts last season the rest were young punts that came good.
So I don't really get the squad size panic?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, September 1, 2015, 20:29:15
Good post, fuck knows how you have the patience to explain what is patently obvious though. Fair play.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, September 1, 2015, 20:32:15
Good post, fuck knows how you have the patience to explain what is patently obvious though. Fair play.
Just going to copy and paste it from now on. Maybe it might actually get through to a few people eventually. When you do a direct comparison we are pretty similar.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: BruceChatwin on Tuesday, September 1, 2015, 22:04:58
One thing that shouldn't be disregarded, in respect of squad size, is that Power seems to have targeted very versatile players. Turnbull, Thompson and Branco can play anywhere along the backline, J. Williams and K. Stewart can play defence and midfield, Robert can play midfield or attack, and Obika, Hylton, J. Stewart and Thomas are all very mobile, and fit in upfront or out wide.

Despite the squad size, Cooper should generally have okay cover when and if a few injuries hit, and it should also offer him good tactical flexibility in terms of changing positions on the fly.

If we can get the Estonian in, then I think I'll be relatively happy with our transfer dealings overall. I don't think our squad is as strong as last year, but I don't think the league is either.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, September 1, 2015, 22:14:36
One thing that shouldn't be disregarded, in respect of squad size, is that Power seems to have targeted very versatile players. Turnbull, Thompson and Branco can play anywhere along the backline, J. Williams and K. Stewart can play defence and midfield, Robert can play midfield or attack, and Obika, Hylton, J. Stewart and Thomas are all very mobile, and fit in upfront or out wide.

Despite the squad size, Cooper should generally have okay cover when and if a few injuries hit, and it should also offer him good tactical flexibility in terms of changing positions on the fly.

If we can get the Estonian in, then I think I'll be relatively happy with our transfer dealings overall. I don't think our squad is as strong as last year, but I don't think the league is either.
Agree with you to an extent on quality but are we actually that much weaker than the 2nd half of last season? Traore seems more than adequate to replace L Thompson, Luongo was non existent after Christmas, and same can be said of Andy Williams. It's only really Byrne and Gladwin where we are possibly weaker and we've got Robert who if he carries on like he is will more than fill one of the 2 areas.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Wednesday, September 2, 2015, 07:21:59
People forget Gladwin was only good for the last 15 games or so


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Wednesday, September 2, 2015, 09:44:06
No offence but you are talking nonsense, let's do a direct comparison just to humour you:

Fods = replaced by Vigs
Belford = still here

N Thompson = still here
Branco = still here
Turnbull = still here
Stephens = replaced by Williams
Toffolo = replaced by BOO
Ricketts = not replaced (big loss?)
Bartram = Brophy

Kasim = still here
Byrne = replaced by J Stewart, a punt yes but why not
Luongo = Kevin Stewart
Gladwin = Robert
L Thompson = Traore
Swift = not relaced but ran out of room in squad last season.
Rogers = Still here

Obika = still here
A Williams = Wes Thomas
Hylton = Still here
M Smith = not replaced

Have I missed anyone?

So out of last seasons main players (approximately 20 of them) we've got players in 17 of the areas with just Ricketts, Swift and Smith not replaced. This doesn't include Barry, Balmy or the Estonian guy which you could say covers at least 1 of the numbers. Also maybe a couple of our youths might make an impact?

Yes we have taken a few punts but numbers wise we aren't really any different and let's face it bar Williams and Ricketts last season the rest were young punts that came good.
So I don't really get the squad size panic?


Just copied and pasted this for the first time on facebook :)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: theakston2k on Wednesday, September 2, 2015, 10:33:29
Just copied and pasted this for the first time on facebook :)
Will need to add in Ajose later, that'll be another gap filled!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Wednesday, September 2, 2015, 10:35:54
I'd swap the Wes Thomas singing to be Smith's replacement and Ajose as Williams replacement.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: theakston2k on Wednesday, September 2, 2015, 10:43:52
I'd swap the Wes Thomas singing to be Smith's replacement and Ajose as Williams replacement.
Probably a fair shout. Either way both replaced which is the main thing.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, September 2, 2015, 10:50:01
Andrew Steele-Davis ‏@andrew_FLICW  1m1 minute ago
Swindon Town Chairman Lee Power has confirmed that Jeremy Balmy has signed on the dotted line at #stfc - http://www.flicwiltshire.com/power-confirms-balmy-has-put-pen-to-paper-at-town/ …


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Red Frog on Wednesday, September 2, 2015, 11:04:09
Andrew Steele-Davis ‏@andrew_FLICW  1m1 minute ago
Swindon Town Chairman Lee Power has confirmed that Jeremy Balmy has signed on the dotted line at #stfc - http://www.flicwiltshire.com/power-confirms-balmy-has-put-pen-to-paper-at-town/ …

Andy King would have been proud of this bit:
Quote from: Mark Cooper on FLIC
“With us getting a couple in, we weren’t sure we were going to get anyone in, so it was important that we tried to get somebody in.”


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: joteddyred on Wednesday, September 2, 2015, 11:47:02
Just copied and pasted this for the first time on facebook :)

Ha ha.  I saw it and commented 😊


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Wednesday, September 2, 2015, 12:25:11
My secret identity is revealed


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: joteddyred on Wednesday, September 2, 2015, 12:47:15
And mine 😊.  I think you know a friend of mine as well.  Brian, usually whinging on fb about Aston Villa?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Boeta on Wednesday, September 2, 2015, 13:26:01
Thats part of the problem with the recruitment this summer. Where are the next £1m players to keep funding this model?

Not sure on £1m players but players Power will be expecting to make a profit on, more often than not:
Kasim (if he goes in Jan)
Obika
Ajose
Robert
Stewart, J
Ojamma
Traore
Hylton

None are £1m players but any of them could be by the end of the season. Just ask Gladwin.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, September 2, 2015, 13:41:43
Putting it bluntly if the business model was easy more clubs would be doing it - there will always be a degree of taking a punt on the unknown - happily to date Power has shown himself to be pretty good at this!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Wednesday, September 2, 2015, 13:44:56
And mine 😊.  I think you know a friend of mine as well.  Brian, usually whinging on fb about Aston Villa?

I work with the cunt


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Skinny Pete on Wednesday, September 2, 2015, 14:27:38
I think our choice of striking options has hugely been improved upon with Ajose and Thomas added to Obika and Hylton.

We have an abundance of riches in midfield.

My only real concern is the make do and mend approach when it comes to defensive cover.

All things considered we have a mighty fine squad and POs should be the minimum.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, September 2, 2015, 14:40:32
Putting it bluntly if the business model was easy more clubs would be doing it - there will always be a degree of taking a punt on the unknown - happily to date Power has shown himself to be pretty good at this!

Do well again this year, and I think LP will be selling consultancy services!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: corner on Wednesday, September 2, 2015, 16:07:21
I think our choice of striking options has hugely been improved upon with Ajose and Thomas added to Obika and Hylton.

We have an abundance of riches in midfield.

My only real concern is the make do and mend approach when it comes to defensive cover.

All things considered we have a mighty fine squad and POs should be the minimum.
We will defend from the front!!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: JayBox325 on Wednesday, September 2, 2015, 16:58:24
What's everyone's starting XI now?

Vigouroux
Thompson - Branco - Williams - Turnbull
Kasim - Rodgers
Ajose - Robert - Thomas
Obika

With Ajose and Thomas being the wingers. Although, I'd probably play the Estonian winger in the starting XI if he signs up. Ajose won't be fully match fit yet either.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: lambourn red on Wednesday, September 2, 2015, 17:06:30
What's everyone's starting XI now?

Vigouroux
Thompson - Branco - Williams - Turnbull
Kasim - Rodgers
Ajose - Robert - Thomas
Obika

With Ajose and Thomas being the wingers. Although, I'd probably play the Estonian winger in the starting XI if he signs up. Ajose won't be fully match fit yet either.

No Traore ? I would say he has been superb since coming back from injury.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Skinny Pete on Wednesday, September 2, 2015, 17:08:14
Cannot, just cannot, leave Traore out.

                       Vigoroux
Boo  Turnbull    Branco   Thompson
                  Traore  Kasim
Pyjamas  Robert    Ajose
                  Obika

Fuck - I forgot Jordan Williams but who do I leave out?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Exiled Bob on Wednesday, September 2, 2015, 17:33:28
Going only on what I've read from match reports, having not seen any matches since the Play Off Final, I'd leave out Kasim because he's made it abundantly clear that he wants to go and he'll almost certainly be sold in January anyway. (Having said that, if we want a lot of money for him then not playing him is hardly going to push his value up).

From what I've seen of Rodgers so far (only highlights of course, but that includes a couple of fabulous goals) he deserves a long run out. I'd play Williams in defence instead of Branco, only because whenever I've seen Branco play he gives me the jitters.



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Barry Scott on Wednesday, September 2, 2015, 17:39:16
Cannot, just cannot, leave Traore out.

                       Vigoroux
Boo  Turnbull    Branco   Thompson
                  Traore  Kasim
Pyjamas  Robert    Ajose
                  Obika

Fuck - I forgot Jordan Williams but who do I leave out?

And Jordan Stewart. I'd play your formation, but drop Obika, play Ajose in his place and put Stewart on the left.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, September 2, 2015, 17:41:21
Going only on what I've read from match reports, having not seen any matches since the Play Off Final, I'd leave out Kasim because he's made it abundantly clear that he wants to go and he'll almost certainly be sold in January anyway. (Having said that, if we want a lot of money for him then not playing him is hardly going to push his value up).

From what I've seen of Rodgers so far (only highlights of course, but that includes a couple of fabulous goals) he deserves a long run out. I'd play Williams in defence instead of Branco, only because whenever I've seen Branco play he gives me the jitters.



Cant leave Branco out. In good form, and our enforcer when other sides have bully boy strikers.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Skinny Pete on Wednesday, September 2, 2015, 17:47:18
Branco's come good. Just as I knew he would.

I reckon Traore was brought in as Kasim's replacement but they're in a quandary now he's still here.

If I had to choose - Traore every time


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: corner on Wednesday, September 2, 2015, 17:48:59
Branco's come good. Just as I knew he would.

I reckon Traore was brought in as Kasim's replacement but they're in a quandary now he's still here.

If I had to choose - Traore every time
I thought traore was Louis thompsons replacement


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, September 2, 2015, 18:48:47
I work with the cunt

Ha, I used to play football with him. 


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, September 3, 2015, 11:51:53
Ha, I used to play football with him. 

I used to work with him


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, September 3, 2015, 12:02:09
I used to work with him

RCUK or before?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, September 3, 2015, 15:56:42
RCUK or before?

Before


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, September 3, 2015, 16:05:16
Threadneedle peasant


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Skinny Pete on Thursday, September 3, 2015, 16:12:48
Nice

https://t.co/4IHnPSblih


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: suttonred on Thursday, September 3, 2015, 16:53:56
Obika must be nearly ready to come back then.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Skinny Pete on Thursday, September 3, 2015, 17:17:22
Apart from the fact it was Vigoroux!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, September 3, 2015, 17:20:31
I bet he didn't notice it wasn't really Ajose either.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: suttonred on Thursday, September 3, 2015, 17:21:47
Ah ffs, do I need a visit to specsavers?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Skinny Pete on Thursday, September 3, 2015, 17:27:28
Tell you what, he looked pretty damn good!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Frigby Daser on Thursday, September 3, 2015, 17:39:32
Vigouroux sounds about as Chilean as I do.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Frigby Daser on Thursday, September 3, 2015, 17:49:05
Thomas will play through the middle, according to Cooper. It's either him or Obika, two up or Obika wide.

Ajose played on the right of a 3 when he was here before - I suspect he will again - although we have Ojamma there, and Cooper has suggested he will play wide today - maybe on the left?

Robert seems the obvious choice to move inside as the apex of the central 3, as we now have more forward options. From what I saw of Rodgers, he's scored goals but he's not been fantastic in open play. Traore plus him or Kasim - and I'd go with Kasim (class of permanent).

Branco has improved - based on the snippet I've seen and reports - so he plays. Turnbull has to as well. Williams misses out for now, as does Kevin Stewart (unless he can play left back?).

Options, options. It will be interesting to see what we look like in a couple of weeks - no doubt a lot of new boys will be benched this weekend on 'match fitness' grounds.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: suttonred on Thursday, September 3, 2015, 17:49:51
I bet he didn't notice it wasn't really Ajose either.

Fucking hell it was Belford, I actually am going for an eye test on the back of that.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Panda Paws on Thursday, September 10, 2015, 13:26:57
RC Celta de Vigo
@rccelta_oficial
Yelko Pino jugará una temporada en el Swindon Town de la League One inglesa-->goo.gl/aj0rsV #RCCV pic.twitter.com/HthJXgNtdG

Yelko Pino, 18yo midfielder, Spain u19 international, joins on a season-long loan apparently....


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Swindon Please Win on Thursday, September 10, 2015, 14:03:13
Sam Morshead ‏@SamMorshead_ 2m2 minutes ago

Source close to club tells me that #stfc taken by surprise by Celta Vigo announcement.

This seems a bit odd.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Skinny Pete on Thursday, September 10, 2015, 14:59:56
Kevin Stewart to remain at STFC


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, September 10, 2015, 15:47:11
RC Celta de Vigo
@rccelta_oficial
Yelko Pino jugará una temporada en el Swindon Town de la League One inglesa-->goo.gl/aj0rsV #RCCV pic.twitter.com/HthJXgNtdG

Yelko Pino, 18yo midfielder, Spain u19 international, joins on a season-long loan apparently....

I watched the Euro u 19 tourney on Eurosport early summer. Spain had some seriously talented boys, don't remember this lad.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, September 10, 2015, 16:25:54
I watched the Euro u 19 tourney on Eurosport early summer. Spain had some seriously talented boys, don't remember this lad.

Can I be the first to say I suggest he won't fancy a cold wet Tuesday night in Morecambe!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Skinny Pete on Thursday, September 10, 2015, 16:32:27
Then it's a good job they are not in our league!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, September 10, 2015, 16:37:32
Then it's a good job they are not in our league!

OK smart arse - he won't like 'insert generic northern town here'


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Skinny Pete on Thursday, September 10, 2015, 20:15:13
ASD reckons Ojamaas clearance still not confirmed


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Thursday, September 10, 2015, 20:50:43
ASD reckons Ojamaas clearance still not confirmed
What a surprise - what about Jordan Stewart's?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Skinny Pete on Thursday, September 10, 2015, 20:51:27
He's OK I think


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Skinny Pete on Friday, September 11, 2015, 09:53:02
Is Kasim back with us or is he still in a huff somewhere?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Power to people on Friday, September 11, 2015, 12:17:29
Is Kasim back with us or is he still in a huff somewhere?

Internationals are over so assuming he made it back and Iraq have not locked him away until he pledges his allegiance and tells them how good they are he should be available


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: suttonred on Friday, September 11, 2015, 12:53:24
Also assuming the Iraqi FA never got the hump ripped his air ticket up, and he's not currently in the back of an 18 wheeler somewhere..


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: jutty274 on Friday, September 11, 2015, 13:19:58
I seen him last night coming out of the Caribbean restaurant last night with a few of the players


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Power to people on Friday, September 11, 2015, 15:35:52
So as it has been stated he is on a youth loan - is there some extra meaning to this


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Skinny Pete on Friday, September 11, 2015, 16:12:40
Be interesting to see people's team selection in tomorrow's matchday thread


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, September 11, 2015, 16:33:53
Be interesting to see people's team selection in tomorrow's matchday thread

I was just thinking what tomorrow's side might look like...it looks like LV, Nathan, Branco, Williams, Turnbull, Traore, Robert, Yas,  Louis, Thomas, Ajose, might be considered first picks, but that doesn't particularly look like it obviously makes a side.

Is BOO fit? 


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Skinny Pete on Friday, September 11, 2015, 16:36:59
Agree apart from Traore for Kasim


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Sir Pissalot on Friday, September 11, 2015, 17:11:28
I would be surprised if Louis walked straight into the starting line-up tomorow.  He's unlikely to be match fit. 


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Skinny Pete on Friday, September 11, 2015, 17:15:32
Ajose did last week


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Sir Pissalot on Friday, September 11, 2015, 17:17:57
We were short of front men last week.  We're not short of midfielders this week.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Skinny Pete on Friday, September 11, 2015, 17:23:49
Aint that the truth!

Still reckon he'll start, though. Maybe for 60 mins


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Friday, September 11, 2015, 20:46:37
Matey boy scored for Inverness this evening.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Friday, September 11, 2015, 20:48:56
Matey boy scored for Inverness this evening.

Good lad.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Saxondale on Friday, September 11, 2015, 20:49:03
What, Him?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Friday, September 11, 2015, 20:49:29
That's a goal every game for him..


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Skinny Pete on Friday, September 11, 2015, 20:52:05
Brilliant!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Friday, September 11, 2015, 20:52:37
What, Him?

He did.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, September 11, 2015, 20:53:14
We'd be top now if we didn't send him out on loan.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Saturday, September 12, 2015, 01:11:15
Anyone seen this?...

http://www.inverness-courier.co.uk/Sport/Football/I-was-pleased-to-get-out-of-Swindon-Miles-Storey-on-his-move-to-ICT-03092015.htm


Title: Re: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: horlock07 on Saturday, September 12, 2015, 08:37:25
Anyone seen this?...

http://www.inverness-courier.co.uk/Sport/Football/I-was-pleased-to-get-out-of-Swindon-Miles-Storey-on-his-move-to-ICT-03092015.htm
Target man?

We wanted him out -he apparently wanted out looks like a win for all parties. Time to move on.


Title: Re: Re: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Saturday, September 12, 2015, 11:01:21
Target man?

We wanted him out -he apparently wanted out looks like a win for all parties. Time to move on.
Yeah absolutely.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: @mwooly63 on Tuesday, September 15, 2015, 18:40:20
Josh Cooke recalled from Cheltenham by STFC

http://www.ctfc.com/news/article/cheltenham-town-josh-cooke-swindon-town-2691581.aspx


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, September 15, 2015, 19:22:08
Josh Cooke recalled from Cheltenham by STFC

http://www.ctfc.com/news/article/cheltenham-town-josh-cooke-swindon-town-2691581.aspx

It was a pretty good gig for him. I expect him to drop down on more level.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Friday, September 18, 2015, 07:47:16
Have they done a team photo yet this season?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Friday, September 18, 2015, 07:48:44
Have they done a team photo yet this season?

They've done the pen pics so you'd think they would have.

Probably need to pay to see it!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Friday, September 18, 2015, 07:50:04
I reckon it's just a picture of Lee Power 25 times.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Friday, September 18, 2015, 07:53:16
I reckon it's just a picture of Lee Power 25 times.

Ha! I've just remembered that BBC Points West were there when the team photo was taken. Byrne and Smith have already made it out of date.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Friday, September 18, 2015, 07:59:35
Ha! I've just remembered that BBC Points West were there when the team photo was taken. Byrne and Smith have already made it out of date.

Was Miles Storey doing an Ashley Cole in it?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, September 18, 2015, 08:00:03
The players page on the website includes none of the later signings http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/team/


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, September 18, 2015, 08:01:52
Was Miles Storey doing an Ashley Cole in it?

From memory for a long time on the players profile page there were the pen pics of the players as there is now all in this seasons shirts, and then at the end (added after he started appearing in squads) was a picture of Storey in an old shirt (I assume trawled up from a previous year!)


Title: Re:
Post by: sonicyouth on Friday, September 18, 2015, 19:31:11
Squad photos have become sadly redundant in modern football. Shame really as I've always thought of them as very symbolic


Title: Re:
Post by: @mwooly63 on Friday, September 18, 2015, 22:23:31
Squad photos have become sadly redundant in modern football. Shame really as I've always thought of them as very symbolic

Saw plenty of lg1 clubs tweeting about their team shots so not all redundant.
Am also pretty sure we did one tho only saw pics taken from a 45° angle by whoever posted them online. Of course that was before the latest round of signings so no use anyway.

Shame as always used that pic with added fixtures as desktop background, have had to use the one the washbag made


Title: Re: Re:
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Saturday, September 19, 2015, 07:15:19
Saw plenty of lg1 clubs tweeting about their team shots so not all redundant.
Am also pretty sure we did one tho only saw pics taken from a 45° angle by whoever posted them online. Of course that was before the latest round of signings so no use anyway.

Shame as always used that pic with added fixtures as desktop background, have had to use the one the washbag made
Which on did the washbag make?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: BruceChatwin on Saturday, September 19, 2015, 08:05:36
Maybe it's on Fanzai?


Title: Re: Re:
Post by: @mwooly63 on Saturday, September 19, 2015, 08:19:32
Which on did the washbag make?

(http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab225/mark_woolhouse/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150919_091628_zpssh8bffwz.jpg)


Title: Re: Re: Re:
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Saturday, September 19, 2015, 10:15:47
(http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/ab225/mark_woolhouse/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150919_091628_zpssh8bffwz.jpg)
Thanks.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, September 30, 2015, 15:28:30
We appear to have a squad photograph finally!


https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10206780505966660&set=gm.1624321234486788&type=3&theater


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: sonicyouth on Wednesday, September 30, 2015, 19:33:20
We appear to have a squad photograph finally!


https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10206780505966660&set=gm.1624321234486788&type=3&theater

dead link?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, September 30, 2015, 19:36:18
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/12046993_10206780505966660_8451732879664495469_n.jpg?oh=f0a465d5a0bd03052b22d3eaa12049b0&oe=56861888)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Wednesday, September 30, 2015, 21:09:31
Fabien Robert has fallen asleep..


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Ells on Thursday, October 1, 2015, 23:47:10
Fabien Robert has fallen asleep..

None of them look too healthy. I'm going to either put this down to the fact the sun was clearly in their eyes (TEF theory), or that Power is slipping them all drugs to make them perform badly as he can't afford to gain promotion but wants to keep taking money out of the club until he bleeds us dry and we end up in the conference. (Adver theory)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Friday, October 2, 2015, 00:47:19
None of them look too healthy. I'm going to either put this down to the fact the sun was clearly in their eyes (TEF theory), or that Power is slipping them all drugs to make them perform badly as he can't afford to gain promotion but wants to keep taking money out of the club until he bleeds us dry and we end up in the conference. (Adver theory)

 :D


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, October 2, 2015, 11:29:06
Momar Bangoura

Nope, me neither


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Nemo on Friday, October 2, 2015, 11:29:59
That sports scientist chap is bloody huge, can he play centre back?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, October 2, 2015, 11:30:19
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEpC3FuO2n0


Title: Re:
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Friday, October 2, 2015, 11:35:08
About time we signed another midfielder :-)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, October 2, 2015, 11:37:51
I cannot believe we have a video analyst, what does he do...

'Mark I have reviewed the video and in summary our defence is shit and half the team are playing out of position' - what does he do for the other 6 and a half days of the week?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: JayBox325 on Friday, October 2, 2015, 11:39:04
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEpC3FuO2n0

Wow. So impressive.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, October 2, 2015, 11:41:48
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEpC3FuO2n0

Aimless fart arsing around in midfield with no end product, seems made for our system!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: JayBox325 on Friday, October 2, 2015, 11:47:17
What position is "Defebsive midfielder"?

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/13800018.Town_bring_in_Bangoura/?ref=twtrec


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Power to people on Friday, October 2, 2015, 12:01:50
I'm glad we have signed him Traoure and Kasim cant play in that position


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: JoeMezz on Friday, October 2, 2015, 12:32:34
Just out of interest, would anyone prefer we signed English players who knew more about the English game and what it means to play for Swindon or do people not think it makes much difference?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, October 2, 2015, 12:39:04
What it means to play for Swindon....

What do you mean?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: pauld on Friday, October 2, 2015, 12:51:32
I cannot believe we have a video analyst, what does he do...

'Mark I have reviewed the video and in summary our defence is shit and half the team are playing out of position' - what does he do for the other 6 and a half days of the week?
It's an unpaid intern position IIRC. Usually done by Sports Science students so I'd guess that's what he does the other 6 and a half days a week


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: pauld on Friday, October 2, 2015, 12:52:52
Just out of interest, would anyone prefer we signed English players who knew more about the English game and what it means to play for Swindon
How many English players know "what it means to play for Swindon"? In fact, other than getting a shot at the Ballon D'Or, what does it mean to play for Swindon (from a player's perspective)?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: leftside on Friday, October 2, 2015, 13:14:41
Just out of interest, would anyone prefer we signed English players who knew more about the English game and what it means to play for Swindon or do people not think it makes much difference?
Not me. Shearer, Calderwood, Fjortoft, Bodin, Nijholt, Risser ...


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Amir on Friday, October 2, 2015, 13:26:25
In fact, other than getting a shot at the Ballon D'Or, what does it mean to play for Swindon (from a player's perspective)?

It means you burn unstoppably within, and get ready to shed your sweat...



...no, wrong club, sorry.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, October 2, 2015, 15:49:32
Just out of interest, would anyone prefer we signed English players who knew more about the English game and what it means to play for Swindon or do people not think it makes much difference?

I like us signing British players, when we do sign foreign players I'd like to see that they are manifestly better than the locals.

Chances of getting players who understand what it means to play for the Town are few....generally the case with most clubs.

I once had a conversation with Steve "Turbo" Robinson, just after it was announced he ws quitting the Town, as to what he'd do next....he told me he'd bought property in Spain on the proceeds of his football and was heading out there. I told him he'd be well regarded by many Town fans for scoring 2 at the Manor....to which he replied he was surprised as he didn't know the game was in anyway "special" ....small crowds, no long term history etc.

Little did I know at the time that he'd be the last Town man to score a goal in Oxford.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: JoeMezz on Tuesday, October 13, 2015, 10:23:13
Louis Thompson gone back to Norwich, another injury.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, October 13, 2015, 10:24:24
Bloody hell.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, October 13, 2015, 10:25:02
Somewhere, there's an Oxford fan with a collection of very accurate Voodoo dolls.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: lambourn red on Tuesday, October 13, 2015, 10:25:46
This is beyond ridiculous now


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: joteddyred on Tuesday, October 13, 2015, 10:26:01
This is beyond ridiculous.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: joteddyred on Tuesday, October 13, 2015, 10:26:58
This is beyond ridiculous now


Ha ha.  Beat me to it!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: JoeMezz on Tuesday, October 13, 2015, 10:28:03
@BBCWiltsSport: FOOTBALL: @Official_STFC midfielder @JordanStewart74 has returned to the club and is playing in a development game today #stfc


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: JoeMezz on Tuesday, October 13, 2015, 10:28:55
How are we sustaining so many injuries? Surely it can't be chance


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, October 13, 2015, 10:29:25
God knows what that development squad looks like, all our reserves and a few youths are needed for the first team.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, October 13, 2015, 10:30:39
How are we sustaining so many injuries? Surely it can't be chance

Yes it can.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, October 13, 2015, 10:34:13
It's at this point that I usually rage quit Football Manager.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, October 13, 2015, 10:43:29
Jesus wept...


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: PHIL!!!! on Tuesday, October 13, 2015, 10:50:02
So who's on the injured list now? I can't keep up.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: JoeMezz on Tuesday, October 13, 2015, 11:05:28
So who's on the injured list now? I can't keep up.

Thompson, Thomas, Williams, Barry, K Stewart, N Thompson, Robert .. Think that's it. Throw in turnbull's suspension too


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, October 13, 2015, 11:08:54
Thompson, Thomas, Williams, Barry, K Stewart, N Thompson, Robert .. Think that's it. Throw in turnbull's suspension too

Obika.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, October 13, 2015, 11:22:24
Interested to know the nature of Louis' knock. Game on Friday night (didn't play for long but still the rigours of travel, warm ups etc) then late night flight and 90 minutes...


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, October 13, 2015, 11:33:26
Interested to know the nature of Louis' knock. Game on Friday night (didn't play for long but still the rigours of travel, warm ups etc) then late night flight and 90 minutes...

Then he picked up a knock in the second half on Saturday but continued to play the whole match, even though we brought on Pyjamas not long after..


Title: Re: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Tuesday, October 13, 2015, 12:30:15
Louis Thompson gone back to Norwich, another injury.
Gone back for treatment or the end of his loan?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Super Hans on Tuesday, October 13, 2015, 12:47:18
Came away from Saturday thinking 'at least we didn't pick up any more injuries'.

The Football Gods are seriously struggling to find a single fuck to give about us aren't they.


Title: Re: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: willwalder on Tuesday, October 13, 2015, 13:06:16
Gone back for treatment or the end of his loan?
He's gone back for treatment and should be back in three weeks if he's fit


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: nigel grays a postie on Tuesday, October 13, 2015, 13:12:30
"He's back," confirmed Cooper. "He's like a yo-yo, we had a bit of fun yesterday and a sweepstake among the boys on how long he would last this time. One or two days?"

Good to see we are sensitively treating Jordan Stewart's homesickness issues....

Hopefully a goal today and likely spot on subs bench Saturday might persuade him to give being a pro footballer a real shot this time.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: suttonred on Tuesday, October 13, 2015, 13:21:21
I'd actually agree that the light hearted way is the best way to approach it, start hammering the kid and he'll retreat into his shell.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, October 13, 2015, 13:25:37
The players should be ripping the piss out of him, the same way a group of 20 something lads would in any other environment.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: PHIL!!!! on Tuesday, October 13, 2015, 13:58:58
Thompson, Thomas, Williams, Barry, K Stewart, N Thompson, Robert .. Think that's it. Throw in turnbull's suspension too

Fucking hell! Have we ever had so many key players out at once?! Reg?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, October 13, 2015, 14:30:10
Fucking hell! Have we ever had so many key players out at once?! Reg?

Nothing springs to mind, but that doesn't mean it's not happened.

As regards Louis, very bad timing it may only be 3 weeks but we've 4 games in that period...by my reckoning we need a minimum of 4 points, preferably 6.  Fewer than 4 and 52 is going to look very distant


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, October 13, 2015, 16:37:37
Jesus wept...

Hopefully on the legs of our players - I would imagine his tears must be thought to have some sort of healing power!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Ells on Tuesday, October 13, 2015, 23:22:10
I thought this was fantastic work
(http://i.imgur.com/bYSEgOY.jpg)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, October 14, 2015, 06:15:23
BBC Wiltshire Sport ‏@BBCWiltsSport 27m27 minutes ago

FOOTBALL: @Official_STFC could be without @ph_rossi and @YaserKasim for this weekend's trip to Millwall as they are both carrying injuries


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: lambourn red on Wednesday, October 14, 2015, 06:55:13
The footballing gods are really kicking us while we are down , I dread to think what the match day squad will look like on Saturday


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Tails on Wednesday, October 14, 2015, 07:56:12
Fuck it, forfeit the game so no one else can get injured for the Oldham game. 


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, October 14, 2015, 08:00:23
Fuck it, forfeit the game so no one else can get injured for the Oldham game. 

Brian Robson did this once when boss of MBoro in similar circumstances....they got docked 3 points. 


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: REDBUCK on Wednesday, October 14, 2015, 08:04:37
Which was enough to relegate them at the end of the season


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Leggett on Wednesday, October 14, 2015, 08:05:12
We're gonna be picking players from the Ladies team at this rate... jesus.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Skinny Pete on Wednesday, October 14, 2015, 09:23:19
We'll beat Millwall

Just you wait and see


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, October 14, 2015, 09:34:08
We'll beat Millwall

Just you wait and see

A mate who's a Millwall fan reckons they're terrible...their home record is even worse than ours, but the same could be said about Blackpool....OK Pool did get a first home win in 10 months, on the Tuesday before playing us, but in a relegation scrap, losing to direct rivals is costly.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: scillyred on Wednesday, October 14, 2015, 19:45:30
Even the Prediction League has called in sick  :D


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, October 14, 2015, 20:13:28
A mate who's a Millwall fan reckons they're terrible...their home record is even worse than ours, but the same could be said about Blackpool....OK Pool did get a first home win in 10 months, on the Tuesday before playing us, but in a relegation scrap, losing to direct rivals is costly.

Know lots, they say the same, but bad as bad is, picking from a full squad against a squad of kids is only going to end one way normally. But I'm with Audrey, I think me might sneak something here. Full squad we'd have won easy I reckon.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: leftside on Wednesday, October 14, 2015, 20:14:26
The footballing gods are really kicking us while we are down , I dread to think what the match day squad will look like on Saturday
Vigouroux
BOO   El-Abd   Bangoura   Brophy
Traore
Ojamaa   Rodgers
Gladwin
Ajose   Hylton

If Millwall fail to win, 'Harris out!'


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, October 14, 2015, 20:17:04
If boo plays right back we really are screwed.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, October 14, 2015, 20:20:45
Shouldn't Barry be back? How long does it take to recover from a concussion?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, October 14, 2015, 20:31:51
Shouldn't Barry be back? How long does it take to recover from a concussion?
Maybe he wandered off in a confused daze and got lost?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, October 14, 2015, 20:34:29
They said 2 weeks out.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: leftside on Wednesday, October 14, 2015, 20:40:25
Shouldn't Barry be back? How long does it take to recover from a concussion?
Depends on the severity, I suppose.

The team I just suggested is based on those known to be fit. If Barry is fit, he could go right back, BOO left back and Brophy left midfield instead of Rodgers. I was quite impressed by Brophy in the second half against Peterborough - keen to attack and energetic (wild optimism he might become the next Ritchie!).

I'd love us to get something out of the game Saturday and for Cooper to get a bit of credit if the performance merits.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, October 14, 2015, 20:42:59
Maybe he wandered off in a confused daze and got lost?

Been there, done that. Even without a concussion.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Skinny Pete on Wednesday, October 14, 2015, 20:48:20
Jordan Stewart before Pyjamas every time.

Are Kasim and Branco injured or crying off?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, October 15, 2015, 12:27:38
Shouldn't Barry be back? How long does it take to recover from a concussion?

I thought there was new rules now, like having to have a doctor make the decision on head injuries and players had to have a certain period of recuperation after a concussion. 


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, October 15, 2015, 12:29:23
Hylton's out now.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, October 15, 2015, 12:31:35
Hylton's out now.

Please tell me this is an early April fools.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, October 15, 2015, 12:33:07
Please tell me this is an early April fools.

Afraid it's true: https://soundcloud.com/bbc-wiltshire-1/mark-cooper-millwall-pre-match

Doesn't sound like a long one though.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: joteddyred on Thursday, October 15, 2015, 12:38:16
We really do have some fragile players.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: blah blah on Thursday, October 15, 2015, 12:42:05
I thought there was new rules now, like having to have a doctor make the decision on head injuries and players had to have a certain period of recuperation after a concussion. 

I know in rugby there are very strict protocols to follow after a concussion. I think its a minimum 2 week rest period (no exercise at all), then a "graduated return to play" which can take another 2 weeks or more. For professionals these periods can be reduced if they are regularly monitored by a qualified doctor, but even for a less physical sport such as football (which is still a contact sport) I cant see anyone being back in less than 2-3 weeks.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: BruceChatwin on Thursday, October 15, 2015, 13:59:17
I reckon we should try Belford at CB. Has always looked like a frustrated outfield player.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: willwalder on Thursday, October 15, 2015, 14:11:36
I know in rugby there are very strict protocols to follow after a concussion. I think its a minimum 2 week rest period (no exercise at all), then a "graduated return to play" which can take another 2 weeks or more. For professionals these periods can be reduced if they are regularly monitored by a qualified doctor, but even for a less physical sport such as football (which is still a contact sport) I cant see anyone being back in less than 2-3 weeks.

FWIW, these are the FA return to play guidelines:

Concussion is a brain injury. There is no blood test or scan currently available that can diagnose it. The diagnosis is made on the basis of history and examination. Return to play after head injury/concussion should be treated as with any other injury. A period of rest, which, in this case, includes mental activity, should be followed by a gradual return to play, closely monitored by medical staff. Serial evaluations using SCAT 3, or whichever pre-season assessment was employed, should be used as an objective adjunct of measure of recovery.

The player should undergo a period of physical and mental rest for at least 24 hours after the injury (which includes the playing of video games or similar).
The physical return to play ‘steps’ should follow the course shown below, only progressing to the next step if there are no persistent/recurrent concussion symptoms, such as such as headache, feeling in a fog, disturbed or blurred vision, sleep disturbance, or unusual emotional behaviour
This process should also include serial SCAT 3 assessments, or assessment with whichever pre-season neuro-psychological assessment tool was employed.
The chosen neuro-psychological testing should be carried out every 48 hours after the injury, until return to play, and should show a gradual return to baseline. Clinical assessment should be made daily, whilst following the rehabilitation programme as outlined below.
Any recurrence or persistence of concussion symptoms such as headache, feeling in a fog, disturbed or blurred vision, sleep disturbance, or unusual emotional behaviour are signs that the player should return to the previous ‘return to play step’.
An improvement in the serial assessments, both clinical and neuro-psychological, whilst increasing the players’ work load, is an indication that they are ready to progress to the next step.

The physical activity ‘steps’ of rehabilitation should follow this protocol.

a) No activity
b) Light aerobic exercise
c) Sports specific exercise
d) Non-contact training drills
e) Full contact practice
f) Return to play

Each of these steps takes at least one day
The player should not be allowed to return to play for at least 6 days after the injury (it often takes longer than this) and in strict accordance with the return to play guidelines (above). This will include a return to baseline of the SCAT 3, or web-based, neuro-psychological criteria. A baseline profile will be available from the pre-season assessment.
The player should be examined, and receive the ‘all clear’ from the club medical officer before returning to play.
If progression back to full fitness is delayed in any way, urgent specialist advice should be sought for further assessment.
Any player who has suffered two or more concussive episodes during a season should be discussed with a suitably qualified neurological specialist prior to return to play.





Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Ardiles on Thursday, October 15, 2015, 14:26:23
I know in rugby there are very strict protocols to follow after a concussion. I think its a minimum 2 week rest period (no exercise at all), then a "graduated return to play" which can take another 2 weeks or more. For professionals these periods can be reduced if they are regularly monitored by a qualified doctor, but even for a less physical sport such as football (which is still a contact sport) I cant see anyone being back in less than 2-3 weeks.

The RFU guidelines are very good.  They need to be.

RFU: Don't be a Headcase (http://www.englandrugby.com/my-rugby/players/player-health/concussion-headcase/#)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Kinky Tom on Thursday, October 15, 2015, 15:20:44
I reckon we should try Belford at CB. Has always looked like a frustrated outfield player.

I'd been waiting to see who'd suggest Belford as an outfield player.  I had CF in mind a la Josh Magennis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Magennis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Magennis))



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, October 15, 2015, 15:26:24
I noticed that Cooper mentions Yinki as a No 10 player, but not so good at defending I've lost count of how many players we have now that like to play in that position - maybe we can just play a team of No 10's and just aim to out score the oposition


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: JayBox325 on Thursday, October 15, 2015, 15:30:33
I noticed that Cooper mentions Yinki as a No 10 player, but not so good at defending I've lost count of how many players we have now that like to play in that position - maybe we can just play a team of No 10's and just aim to out score the oposition

We're all dreaming of a team of number 10s.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, October 15, 2015, 15:41:47
Just a hypothetical.... but what would happen if it got so bad that we couldn't put a full team out?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: JayBox325 on Thursday, October 15, 2015, 15:46:21
Just a hypothetical.... but what would happen if it got so bad that we couldn't put a full team out?

We'd have to forfeit games. They'd go down as a loss I think.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: adje on Thursday, October 15, 2015, 16:10:14
Shouldn't Barry be back? How long does it take to recover from a concussion?

Does it matter?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Skinny Pete on Thursday, October 15, 2015, 16:20:01
Be interesting to see who partners Ajose up front.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: JoeMezz on Thursday, October 15, 2015, 16:30:34
Be interesting to see who partners Ajose up front.

Randall?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: tans on Thursday, October 15, 2015, 16:55:52
Stewart


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Thursday, October 15, 2015, 16:57:05
Ojamaa just behind Ajose I"m hoping for!!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Skinny Pete on Thursday, October 15, 2015, 17:03:48
Stewart and Ajose - Mighty Midgets!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, October 15, 2015, 17:19:58
Be interesting to see who partners Ajose up front.

Josh Cooke ?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: JoeMezz on Thursday, October 15, 2015, 17:27:55
A team full of midgets, at Millwall!!  :)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: BruceChatwin on Thursday, October 15, 2015, 17:32:05
I'd been waiting to see who'd suggest Belford as an outfield player.  I had CF in mind a la Josh Magennis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Magennis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Magennis))

He could probably do both, based on nothing at all. I reckon he could be the next Dion Dublin.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Skinny Pete on Thursday, October 15, 2015, 17:39:02
Bet he does!

Especially in the 'dong' department!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, October 15, 2015, 18:03:41
Josh Cooke ?
At Gloucester City at the moment.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Thursday, October 15, 2015, 19:48:49
Brad Barry's still not right - apprently he still has a huge bump and is getting very muddled with things that have happened just before and since the match


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Ells on Thursday, October 15, 2015, 21:07:06
So he'll be running cluelessly about the pitch not knowing what the fuck's going on then. I fail to see how this sets him apart from the rest of the squad.


Title: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Frigby Daser on Thursday, October 15, 2015, 21:12:21
Given the amount of people out, it's still not the worst side. When we went down under Quinn, that side had virtually no players anybody else wanted bar Scott Leitch and Ndah. Iffy and Walters were great, but past their prime.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Exiled Bob on Friday, October 16, 2015, 16:05:35
I noticed that Cooper mentions Yinki as a No 10 player, but not so good at defending.....
That applies to all our players.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Exiled Bob on Friday, October 16, 2015, 16:06:32
So he'll be running cluelessly about the pitch not knowing what the fuck's going on then. I fail to see how this sets him apart from the rest of the squad.
......and the fans.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Friday, October 16, 2015, 16:07:16
So who IS available tomorrow? I've lost count?..

I'm assuming Paddy will be in the squad.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: tans on Friday, October 16, 2015, 18:08:52
Anton Rodgers - Sprained ankle


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: THE FLASH on Friday, October 16, 2015, 18:20:11
Anton Rodgers - Sprained ankle

Blessing in disguise.....fucking woeful against Oxford and PBoro...

Let's hope Balmy plays some part in the match...


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, October 16, 2015, 19:04:01
So who IS available tomorrow? I've lost count?..

I'm assuming Paddy will be in the squad.

Vigs/Belford

A.N. Other, Branco, El Abd, Boo.

Gladwin, Traore, Bangoura, Brophy

 Ojamaa, Ajose

Subs. Randall, Balmy, Marshall, Stewart, Tom Smith


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: molepar on Friday, October 16, 2015, 19:08:02
Not looking good for tomorrow, but who knows, maybe the fringe players can pull something out of the hat and seize the chance to cement their places.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Friday, October 16, 2015, 20:42:35
Sure I read earlier Brancos injured?!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Friday, October 16, 2015, 20:53:15
Tight groin in Cooper's injury update on the OS ... touch and go, but that's not an invitation.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Ells on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 00:50:10
According to the irrefutable Adver yesterday Branco is struggling but will "fight through the pain" in order to play. Although they said it was his leg.

 :headhurts:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 06:56:19
This is fucking ridiculous.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Skinny Pete on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 08:23:10
According to the irrefutable Adver yesterday Branco is struggling but will "fight through the pain" in order to play. Although they said it was his leg.

 :headhurts:

If we've got to watch through the pain they can fucking well play through it as well


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 09:12:47
Gladwin's injured now


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Frigby Daser on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 15:51:12
I just don't think any of them want to play.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Skinny Pete on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 19:16:31
Kasim's doing his best not to be associated with the pile of shite that is STFC at the moment.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Exiled Bob on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 20:02:41
Kasim's doing his best not to be associated with the pile of shite that is STFC at the moment.
Why didn't he play yesterday?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 20:20:02
Why didn't he play yesterday?


I think he had a slight pull on his beard. Shouldn't be out long, back by Easter.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 20:21:59
Not sure this has been mentioned on any of the other threads, but doesn't the number of injuries coincide with our move to Beversbrook in Calne. Perhaps, rightly or wrongly, the new training pitches are causing injuries?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 20:38:17
Not sure this has been mentioned on any of the other threads, but doesn't the number of injuries coincide with our move to Beversbrook in Calne. Perhaps, rightly or wrongly, the new training pitches are causing injuries?

Molehills?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Talk Talk on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 20:49:48
Molehills?

Mountains?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 20:50:21
Mountains?

Touché


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Talk Talk on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 20:51:51
Touché

No, I'm not, I'm fairly relaxed about the vendetta that Beversbrook seems to have against STFC.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Skinny Pete on Monday, October 19, 2015, 12:05:06
Just wondered why, with the lack of strikers, Michael Smith hasn't been recalled from his loan


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Sippo on Monday, October 19, 2015, 12:13:35
Maybe he fell out with Cooper or Power or Williams.

Maybe everyone has fallen out with everyone.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: theakston2k on Monday, October 19, 2015, 12:27:15
Just wondered why, with the lack of strikers, Michael Smith hasn't been recalled from his loan
Because he's there with a view to a permanent transfer and so no recall option. Pretty standard stuff....


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, October 19, 2015, 12:32:48
I think we should recall Miles Storey who unlike Michael Smith, is scoring goals this season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, October 19, 2015, 12:56:06
I think we should recall Miles Storey who unlike Michael Smith, is scoring goals this season.

What as manager?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: DiV on Monday, October 19, 2015, 14:17:53
Just wondered why, with the lack of strikers, Michael Smith hasn't been recalled from his loan

Because on loan to a view with a permanent move means - we've sold him but not got the money yet.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Skinny Pete on Monday, October 19, 2015, 14:35:42
So, Barnsley are stuck with him come what may?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: BruceChatwin on Saturday, October 31, 2015, 08:51:54
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/klopp-set-overhaul-liverpool-fc-10360430 (http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/klopp-set-overhaul-liverpool-fc-10360430)

Hmm.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: tans on Saturday, October 31, 2015, 08:59:09
Well theyve hardly made a difference to the team so no great loss.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, October 31, 2015, 09:21:24
It's nuts that we just didn't send Kevin Stewart back, I wonder if we have a clause to buy him?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Power to people on Monday, November 2, 2015, 16:08:31
It's nuts that we just didn't send Kevin Stewart back, I wonder if we have a clause to buy him?

Probably not paying his wages so makes no difference


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Batch on Monday, November 2, 2015, 17:38:31
Probably not paying his wages so makes no difference

Surely it takes up a loan player spot. Or do loan cancellations not give you that back?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: suttonred on Monday, November 2, 2015, 17:55:08
What is a loan player spot? You can have 25 if you want.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Kinky Tom on Monday, November 2, 2015, 18:11:22
If he was sent back and loan cancelled a long term loan would have been taken up I think, there is a limit on domestic long term loans per club.  Makes sense to keep him still on loan as when he is back to fitness he's still ours.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Batch on Monday, November 2, 2015, 19:25:25
What is a loan player spot? You can have 25 if you want.

Yeah, you are right, its only an issue when loaning from the same club (max 4 + 1 youth, max 2 over 23 on standard loan). Liverpool aren't going to give us any more, so non issue.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:13:48
Gladwin's loan has been extended.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Skinny Pete on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:21:55
How long?

Fucking name changed again. Might as well just go to it and make it Cunt


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:40:46
How long?

Fucking name changed again. Might as well just go to it and make it Cunt

I'd imagine 28 days because its an emergency loan, gives an option for us to extend a max of once more, but with the option of QPR recalling after those 28.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: joteddyred on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:43:49
How long?

Fucking name changed again. Might as well just go to it and make it Cunt

Who were you originially?  Were you Audrey?  I'm a bit confused now.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: suttonred on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:44:31
How long?

Fucking name changed again. Might as well just go to it and make it Cunt

Have to be Chang Jr surely?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: suttonred on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:44:53
Who were you originially?  Were you Audrey?  I'm a bit confused now.
Yes and before that kerryred


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: joteddyred on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:48:12
Have to be Chang Jr surely?

I'd say Chang Snr!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Skinny Pete on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:50:32
Not forgetting the short lived Skinny Pete


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: suttonred on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:57:26
Oh yeah


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 18:26:17
Gladwin for the season (with a 24 hour recall)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Skinny Pete on Wednesday, November 4, 2015, 18:08:54
Jordan Williams out for the season, apparently. Kevin Stewart nearing a return. Possibility of Vig being recalled to Liverpool.

They have already recalled Ryan Kent from Coventry.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, November 4, 2015, 18:12:46
I read Kent was only being recalled temporarily so Klopp could have a look at him.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Skinny Pete on Wednesday, November 4, 2015, 18:13:46
Seems like he wants to run the rule over most of their loans


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, November 4, 2015, 18:23:47
Klopp doesn't like the English loan system, he wants to see his younger players develop in the U21's but, you know, us lowly pond scum FL clubs also have matches to prepare for.

The risks of relying on the loan market have been highlighted this season. Can't we be friends with Spurs again?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Wednesday, November 4, 2015, 18:25:27
Seems like he wants to run the rule over most of their loans

(http://i.gse.io/gse_subscriber_media/000/102/376/Art_6_web.jpg?p=1&w=960)

What the fuck is this.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Wednesday, November 4, 2015, 19:27:10
His predictions are all wrong too so we changed his name appropriately.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Talk Talk on Wednesday, November 4, 2015, 22:14:42
Fucking name changed again. Might as well just go to it and make it Cunt

I second this auto suggestion.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: SuperBosnian on Wednesday, November 4, 2015, 22:34:04
Thirded.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, November 4, 2015, 23:07:46
I feel I'm in the midst of a bullying culture here.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Talk Talk on Wednesday, November 4, 2015, 23:15:48
I feel I'm in the midst of a bullying culture here.

Man up. Or if not then I will buy you a Babycham when we do get together for that drink  :pint:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, November 4, 2015, 23:18:37
Well that's a can of worms opened!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Ells on Wednesday, November 4, 2015, 23:19:27
If Audrey gets his name changed again then I suggest Chang gets his doctorate removed at least

Will "scraped a lucky 2:2 in transfer bollocks at a uni that used to be a texaco with a 500 word dissertation on Jason Roberts written on the back of a fag packet" fit in the box?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Talk Talk on Wednesday, November 4, 2015, 23:30:30
Will "scraped a lucky 2:2 in transfer bollocks at a uni that used to be a texaco with a 500 word dissertation on Jason Roberts written on the back of a fag packet" fit in the box?

 :clap:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Skinny Pete on Thursday, November 5, 2015, 09:45:38
I think it's  disgraceful all you spotty urchins picking on a sick old man.

Bollocks to the lot of you!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: suttonred on Thursday, November 5, 2015, 09:54:15
Its the pack mentality, hunt down the old and the weak..


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: corner on Thursday, November 5, 2015, 12:43:23
FOOTBALL: On loan @Official_STFC players @aelabd6 & @Louis_T19 have been cleared to play in the FA Cup against Rochdale this weekend #STFC


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Skinny Pete on Friday, November 6, 2015, 16:17:20
These international call-ups are beginning to piss me off


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, November 6, 2015, 16:26:35
These international call-ups are beginning to piss me off

The breaks for Euros piss me off completely....it never used to be like this, and now it's just got ridiculous, with a break to play some PO games to get a few extra shitty nations into the finals.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: tans on Friday, November 6, 2015, 17:13:37
The breaks for Euros piss me off completely....it never used to be like this, and now it's just got ridiculous, with a break to play some PO games to get a few extra shitty nations into the finals.

International friendlies are a fucking pain in the arse too. Lose one of your best midfielders for a shit game like vietnam vs iraq. Fucking pointless. Cant the clubs ask them not to pick them?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, November 6, 2015, 18:27:25
International friendlies are a fucking pain in the arse too. Lose one of your best midfielders for a shit game like vietnam vs iraq. Fucking pointless. Cant the clubs ask them not to pick them?

We have to go into the most important game of the season so far, without 2 key players.....just wrong.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: tans on Friday, November 6, 2015, 19:43:50
International breaks should be for all leagues, not just the top two imo. Why are the lower league teams disadvantaged?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, November 7, 2015, 18:29:05
International friendlies are a fucking pain in the arse too. Lose one of your best midfielders for a shit game like vietnam vs iraq. Fucking pointless. Cant the clubs ask them not to pick them?

Might be a blessing in disguise, is he one of our best midfielders at the moment?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: tans on Saturday, November 7, 2015, 18:32:57
No hes not, but you get my point. As Reg says, he's a key player though


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Quagmire on Saturday, November 7, 2015, 18:35:54
No hes not, but you get my point. As Reg says, he's a key player though
You've slated him on Twitter all day, can't think he's that key  ;)
I think he's a bad apple myself, we've been a worse side since he got back in January. Will be interesting to see what we are like without him next week.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: tans on Saturday, November 7, 2015, 18:37:48
Agreed


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: BruceChatwin on Wednesday, November 11, 2015, 20:11:58
Thought this was quite interesting, posted in the Adver comments.

http://experimental361.com/2015/11/10/player-usage-in-the-football-league/ (http://experimental361.com/2015/11/10/player-usage-in-the-football-league/)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Skinny Pete on Wednesday, November 11, 2015, 20:20:44
Just confirms that the combination of a very unsettled side allied with such a young average age is a recipe for disaster.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, November 11, 2015, 20:30:41
Just confirms that the combination of a very unsettled side allied with such a young average age is a recipe for disaster.

No. The only thing it confirms is that we've used a lot of players this season so far.  


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: @mwooly63 on Wednesday, November 11, 2015, 20:47:56
No. The only thing it confirms is that we've used a lot of players this season so far.  

Cannot be a coincidence the 3 bottom teams in the division have also fielded the youngest squads  :hmmm:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Skinny Pete on Wednesday, November 11, 2015, 20:49:59
No. The only thing it confirms is that we've used a lot of players this season so far.  
And are joint bottom. Disaster to me.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, November 11, 2015, 20:50:49
Cannot be a coincidence the 3 bottom teams in the division have also fielded the youngest squads  :hmmm:

We had one of the youngest squads last year and made it to play-off finals, what did that confirm?



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, November 11, 2015, 20:55:32
And are joint bottom. Disaster to me.

What would Wigan fans think of those stats? Would they think using a high number of players spells disaster? Or Sheff U fans when their team is just outside the Playoffs?

There are way too many variables for it to be anything but meaningless, unless you allow confirmation bias to settle in. We used a relatively high number of players when PDC was here....... WE NEED TO USE MORE PLAYERS


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Skinny Pete on Wednesday, November 11, 2015, 21:10:27
But Wigan and Sheff Utd have big squads of pretty much equal competitiveness. Blades, indeed, regularly are able to put out 2 entirely different XIs in cup and league.

Maybe what those stats show is we are very weak, almost uncompetitive, without the first XI playing. Hence the disaster now.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, November 11, 2015, 21:18:06


Maybe what those stats show is we are very weak, almost uncompetitive, without the first XI playing. Hence the disaster now.

Maybe.

Maybe is a lot different from 'confirm'. Maybe those stats also show that we have been rather unlucky with injuries and just can't compete with larger clubs such as Sheff U and Wigan. Maybe.

Maybe those stats confirm that we would be higher in the table had we not has so many injuries. Maybe.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, November 11, 2015, 21:20:03
I can confirm that I am definitely maybe now going to bed.

Night night.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Skinny Pete on Wednesday, November 11, 2015, 21:21:57
No maybe about it really.

We are joint bottom whatever the reason. The usual reason, of course, is that the players who play just aren't good enough.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: A Gent Orange on Thursday, November 12, 2015, 17:20:35
Josh Cooke spending another month at Gloucester City. Scored three so far up there.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Thursday, November 12, 2015, 17:28:56
No maybe about it really.

We are joint bottom whatever the reason. The usual reason, of course, is that the players who play just aren't good enough.
That's pretty much the bottom line here. You don't go 12 matches without a win on bad luck alone. Injuries have killed us.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, November 27, 2015, 09:22:03
You can add Jamie Calvin to the list, whoever he is.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Tails on Friday, November 27, 2015, 09:29:07
Who?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Sippo on Friday, November 27, 2015, 09:35:30
Has to be one for the future. How many strikers is that we have now?!



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: corner on Friday, November 27, 2015, 09:59:46
Ex Oxford utd youth, good luck to him


Title: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Batch on Friday, November 27, 2015, 10:38:24
wtf?!

bloody odd signing on the face of it given Hylton can't get a game, and given even if Thomas leaves we will likely still have smith.

and isn't pino a forward too?

a year deal, if one for the future, must have an option.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: suttonred on Friday, November 27, 2015, 10:53:57
wtf?!

bloody of signing on the face of it given Hylton can't get a game, and given even if Thomas leaves we will likely still have smith.

and isn't pino a forward too?

a year deal, if one for the future, must have an option.

Pino is a number 10/attacking midfielder


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Batch on Friday, November 27, 2015, 11:21:06
thanks, still seems odd to me. hopefully when he has a 1 in 3 strike rate I'll realise why we bought him.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Friday, November 27, 2015, 15:25:10
Louis has extended his deal until the New Year  :)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Skinny Pete on Friday, November 27, 2015, 15:37:24
wtf?!

bloody odd signing on the face of it given Hylton can't get a game, and given even if Thomas leaves we will likely still have smith.

and isn't pino a forward too?

a year deal, if one for the future, must have an option.
I thought the Smith loan was just a way of getting him to Barnsley outside of the transfer window and is, to all intents and purposes, a permanent move with an agreed fee paid when the window opens again in January.


Title: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Batch on Friday, November 27, 2015, 15:39:45
it may be, I'm assuming if there is a way to get out of it they will.

we've done the same in the past.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Skinny Pete on Friday, November 27, 2015, 15:43:56
Can't imagine they are too keen on keeping him - it's been a disaster for both him and Barnsley.

That £600,000 we would have got from Sheff Utd if Clough hadn't been sacked would have been so sweeeeeeet!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, November 27, 2015, 15:44:53
I thought the Smith loan was just a way of getting him to Barnsley outside of the transfer window and is, to all intents and purposes, a permanent move with an agreed fee paid when the window opens again in January.

Mighty Mike has made 11 appearances for the Tykes (4 starts) of which they've won one and drawn one losing 9.

He's got more points 5 from his 4 games for us.

As to whether we had a gentleman's agreement with them....which they may choose to renege on we'll have to see.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Skinny Pete on Friday, November 27, 2015, 15:46:57
Can't imagine Power being much of a gentleman where dosh is involved.

If there's any sort of signed contract they're fecked!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Ells on Friday, November 27, 2015, 16:09:41
The only cheese he likes is Mozzarella

MAYDAY MAYDAY
RED KEN WAS RIGHT


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Power to people on Friday, November 27, 2015, 16:47:00
With Gladwin going back after Sat's game then it free's up the loan space, although not sure what happened to the talk of him being here for the season, and then when Stewart the Liverpool lad is fit we have an issue with too many loans available again.

See what happens with all the loans in January if anyone get's made permanent, can see Louis staying here if he does not get a championship club as he's clearly not in Norwich's plans at the moment.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Oaksey Moonraker on Friday, November 27, 2015, 17:00:39
Can't imagine Power being much of a gentleman where dosh is involved.

If there's any sort of signed contract they're fecked!

Could be the reverse of the Adam Rooney loan to permanent transfer. Lee Johnson did promise to take Michael Smith to the next level. I guess League 2 wasn't the plan!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Batch on Monday, December 28, 2015, 17:27:04
The utterly pointless signing of Momar Bangoura has ended, he has now left the club.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, December 28, 2015, 17:44:25
Pinko to sign 6 month deal then.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Monday, December 28, 2015, 17:47:13
Wes Thomas going back as well, hardly surprising i guess.


Title: Re: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Monday, December 28, 2015, 19:50:50
Pinko to sign 6 month deal then.
Loan?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Monday, December 28, 2015, 20:52:30
Where's the news regarding Pino & Wes? I can see Bangoura being reported on FLIC.


Title: Re:
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 08:20:58
Shame about Wes, decent player.


Title: Re:
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 10:00:49
Shame about Wes, decent player.
Still haven't seen this anywhere!! Or confirmation of Pino!!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2014-15)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 12:12:49
perma pibo

http://www.flicwiltshire.com/pino-to-pen-permanent-short-term-contract-with-town-in-july/


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 12:48:33
Will be interesting to see what Pino is like, quite surprising it's a perm and that he's dropping to our level. On the face of it he should be a good prospect as is only 19 as has played for Spain (and scored goals) in every age group up to and including under 19 so on the face of it has good pedigree. Would imagine it's a bit more of an achievement representing Spain at any level compared to the dross that seem to go through the English youth system.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 13:24:18
Will be interesting to see what Pino is like, quite surprising it's a perm and that he's dropping to our level. On the face of it he should be a good prospect as is only 19 as has played for Spain (and scored goals) in every age group up to and including under 19 so on the face of it has good pedigree. Would imagine it's a bit more of an achievement representing Spain at any level compared to the dross that seem to go through the English youth system.
That article still mentions 8 loanees so would include Wes unless I'm missing something.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: BruceChatwin on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 13:58:52
Spanish youth football doesn't look quite as technical as I imagined.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1jaXL9-FqM




Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 15:17:48
Spanish youth football doesn't look quite as technical as I imagined.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1jaXL9-FqM




Sometimes my job takes me to Barcelona and on a couple of occasions I've had the privilege of spending the weekend in the city. On one occasion I went for a sizable walk and found myself watching kids football in the Gràcia district.

The standard was properly lousy and I mean stereotypical English levels of dreadful. I've never been more reassured to see a tubby kid with a number 5 shirt on just booting it whenever he had the chance.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 12:08:33
Andrew Steele-Davis ‏@andrew_FLICW  3m3 minutes ago
Michael Smith will be returning to Swindon Town in January after Barnsley opted against making his loan move permanent. #stfc


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 12:08:55
No surprises there.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 12:09:14
Andrew Steele-Davis ‏@andrew_FLICW  3m3 minutes ago
Michael Smith will be returning to Swindon Town in January after Barnsley opted against making his loan move permanent. #stfc

Oh, I wonder why..


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 12:09:20
Andrew Steele-Davis ‏@andrew_FLICW  3m3 minutes ago
Michael Smith will be returning to Swindon Town in January after Barnsley opted against making his loan move permanent. #stfc

So Lee Johnson couldn't 'get the best' out of him after all.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: sonicyouth on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 12:10:17
Considering how physically weak we are up front with Ajose and Obika perhaps his return is timely?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Tails on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 12:12:14
Clean slate for Smithy I hope. He's shown us at times he can be valuable. He needs some confidence and fast though.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 12:12:19
We know there's a player in there somewhere. Perhaps Lingy can get it out of him.

Oh....


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 12:13:04
So Lee Johnson couldn't 'get the best' out of him after all.

Fuck knows where Michael's head will be at, after this.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 12:17:11
Fuck knows where Michael's head will be at, after this.

You'd think there'd be an almighty incentive but it's not always proven to be the case.

Summer of 2015 he was on the brink of a move to Sheffield United for a six figure fee but as it stands he'd be lucky to get a free transfer to Gateshead (where at least he'd be happy) in 2016.

The career of a lower league footballer, eh.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 12:21:16
You'd think there'd be an almighty incentive but it's not always proved the case.

Summer of 2015 he was on the brink of a move to Sheffield United for a six figure fee but as it stands he'd be lucky to get a free transfer to Gateshead (where at least he'd be happy) in 2016.

The career of a lower league footballer, eh.

I see Barnsley are also releasing Simeon Jackson, only 28. One thing about Power is that he should understand what being a lower league journeyman is about.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 12:51:30
I see Barnsley are also releasing Simeon Jackson, only 28. One thing about Power is that he should understand what being a lower league journeyman is about.

I'd have loved to have had Simeon Jackson here a few years ago.

I know Michael Smith wanted to move further north... perhaps he could buy a house in Cheltenham or something, yeah ok it's not the North East, but it is further north than Swindon..


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 13:26:45
I'd have loved to have had Simeon Jackson here a few years ago.

I know Michael Smith wanted to move further north... perhaps he could buy a house in Cheltenham or something, yeah ok it's not the North East, but it is further north than Swindon..

I understand that he has been looking in Highworth.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 13:29:34
I understand that he has been looking in Highworth.

That solved that then.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: FormerlyPlymRed on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 14:30:03
Quite happy he is coming back, he scored 18 goals for us last season and is still only 24. Can't see us getting anyone any better on a permanent in jan


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: tans on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 14:50:24
So am i actually


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 19:38:53
meh.

too inconsistent and couldn't trap a bag of cement. won't get on his back or owt though


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, January 6, 2016, 11:01:04
Andrew Steele-Davis ‏@andrew_FLICW  2m2 minutes ago
Swindon Town striker Miles Storey has extended his loan at Inverness Caledonian Thistle until end of season. Thanks to @IC_JDurent #stfc


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, January 6, 2016, 11:01:27
Andrew Steele-Davis ‏@andrew_FLICW  2m2 minutes ago
Swindon Town striker Miles Storey has extended his loan at Inverness Caledonian Thistle until end of season. Thanks to @IC_JDurent #stfc

Happy endings.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, January 6, 2016, 11:05:33
Happy endings.

Every Storey needs one.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, January 6, 2016, 11:49:39
Fuck knows where Michael's head will be at, after this.

I imagine with his body, back in the Swindon area.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Wednesday, January 6, 2016, 12:28:52
can't they just sign the fucker ?!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: tans on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 07:10:02
At it again i see. Since deleted.

At least wait until you are out of contract before you slag the club off. Thick fucker.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 07:16:12
Hardly surprising that he'd feel that way. Town's biggest crime is that we haven't managed to sell him, this has been going on for a couple of years.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: tans on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 07:22:14
At least wait until your contracts up before slagging the employer off though!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 07:31:51
At least wait until your contracts up before slagging the employer off though!

Agreed. Having read his tweets over the years, Storey has never struck me as the brightest spark.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 08:23:32
AGAIN that 'tweet' is from an account that is not locked, whereas Storey's account is locked.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 08:26:50
Unless he's unlocking just to make these 'tweets' and then locking it again so he can then go on to deny it. He'd just be trolling himself, what would be the point in that?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: tans on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 08:27:40
Screenshot someonelsw posted, plus people replied to it


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 08:29:13
He's an arrogant little shit by the sounds of it. Shit player anyway.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 08:30:00
Unless he's unlocking just to make these 'tweets' and then locking it again so he can then go on to deny it. He'd just be trolling himself, what would be the point in that?

(http://www.militianews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Stupid-Progressive-Idiots.jpg)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Saxondale on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 09:04:32
He's saying its not from him.

Miles Storey ‏@m_storey32   36m36 minutes ago
About a club I've grown up with since the age of sixteen 😔⚽️

Miles Storey ‏@m_storey32   37m37 minutes ago
Going to deactivate my Twitter account sad that I have to do it this because one person thinks it's funny to tweet from my account

Miles Storey ‏@m_storey32   51m51 minutes ago
Whoever is doing this to my account has to stop man what are you getting from this ?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 09:06:34
Why does he not just change his password?!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Paolo69 on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 09:28:28
Why does he not just change his password?!

Not too sure what to believe. He did say he'd tried that. He has now deleted his account too.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 09:38:19
Adver Sports Desk ‏@AdverSport  4m4 minutes ago
#stfc midfielder @HenrikOjamaa signs for Austrian side FC Wacker Innsbruck on a contract until 2017 with option for another year. #stfc


Title: Re:
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 09:47:31
And nothing of importance was lost. Should free up the wage bill a bit.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 09:55:17
Shame it didn't work out for Ojamaa. Always felt there was a player in there somewhere. Important we retain Gladwin now otherwise Robert is the only other attacking midfielder we have.


Title: Re:
Post by: Abrahammer on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 10:28:49
Should free up the wage bill a bit.

Yep and probably one of our highest earners given the decent(ish) pedigree he came with.

Suspect he is a much better player than what we witnessed, he certainly was when I saw him play a few times north of the border


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: tans on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 10:31:46
Gladwin gone back :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Recalled by QPR.



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Panda Paws on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 10:37:06
And Thompson and Thomas too.

http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/article/four-depart-sn1-2887940.aspx


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 10:41:04
Well... At least we're in the loop.



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 10:43:42
Well... At least we're in the poop.


Fixed it for you :)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: FormerlyPlymRed on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 10:46:04
Delightful. Interesting to see who we get in


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Abrahammer on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 10:56:37
Imagine the meltdown if Audrey was still around


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 10:57:04
Adver Sports Desk ‏@AdverSport  4m4 minutes ago
#stfc midfielder @HenrikOjamaa signs for Austrian side FC Wacker Innsbruck on a contract until 2017 with option for another year. #stfc

Hope we got a good fee for him.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 10:57:45
Hope we got a good fee for him.

Termination of contract.

Zilch (which is hardly surprising).


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: lambourn red on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 10:58:48
You can only hope that Power has a very good plan B that involves actually signing players not just loans. A midfield of Traore, Rodgers and Kasim does not bode well as we have already seen earlier in the season.
We need at least 1 Centre Back if not 2 , 2 attacking midfielders , a winger and probably another striker if Smith does get sold.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 10:59:49
Ojaama, much like Dossevi, was not very good on the pitch for Town but will always have a special place in my heart because he was the best player in our squad on FM.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Leggett on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 11:03:49
Dossevi was an absolute FM beast for Town! He had a cool car in real life as well.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 11:08:10
Can we just get the hilarious and not at all worn out 'better get my boots on' joke out of the way now? Cheers.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: JoeMezz on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 11:16:52
This current squad is not good enough to stay up.

As Lambourn Red said hope Power has a plan, fully expecting us to make couple of signings out of nowhere and be confident of survival again within the next week.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: A Gent Orange on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 11:17:26
Can we just get the hilarious and not at all worn out 'better get my boots on' joke out of the way now? Cheers.
This.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 11:19:49
Can we just get the hilarious and not at all worn out 'better get my boots on' joke out of the way now? Cheers.

Can't. I'm too busy tweeting Simon Ferry asking him to come back to Swindon.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Honest Lee on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 11:20:09
Can we just get the hilarious and not at all worn out 'better get my boots on' joke out of the way now? Cheers.

And a cushion for the managers seat in the dugout.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Saxondale on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 11:23:04
Oh lovely. Haven't bought my ticket for Saturday yet. I may have to now as I do love a lost cause.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: JoeMezz on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 11:24:44
Maybe it's time to see Balmy get some game time?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 11:24:58
Quote from: Flashheart
Can we just get the hilarious and not at all worn out 'better get my boots on' joke out of the way now? Cheers.

that's just stupid. your travel expenses would be too high.

not exactly panicking, but this I'd a bit of a shitter as things stand . we'll get replacements, but..


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: tj2002 on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 11:27:05
Ojaama, much like Dossevi, was not very good on the pitch for Town but will always have a special place in my heart because he was the best player in our squad on FM.
Him and Jordan Stewart have been unreal as inside forwards for me so far this season with Robert as a 10 and Beeks up top. Currently 2nd in December, if only it were real  :cry:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 11:28:06
Termination of contract.

Zilch (which is hardly surprising).

To be honest the way that he has played if we have got rid without having to pay any cash out thats probably as good as it's going to get.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Frigby Daser on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 11:43:19
Perhaps this is Power's masterplan to weaken us sufficiently that he can justify taking over again, to "protect" the manager.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Panda Paws on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 11:43:30
Maybe it's time to see Balmy get some game time?

Ha


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Frigby Daser on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 11:43:57
Either that, or he thinks we have enough to stay up and no amount of his money will see us go up - so why cough up?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: joteddyred on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 11:47:33
You can only hope that Power has a very good plan B that involves actually signing players not just loans. A midfield of Traore, Rodgers and Kasim does not bode well as we have already seen earlier in the season.
We need at least 1 Centre Back if not 2 , 2 attacking midfielders , a winger and probably another striker if Smith does get sold.

This.  The loans have been an issue throughout, too reliant on them to the point we had to drop one.

I did expect us to extend a couple of them.  At present, things are looking rather shit again.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 11:56:53
Out of the five players, I only surprised with the exit of Adam El-Abd. Gladwin and Thompson were only meant to be back for a month and we managed to stretch their deals out.

It's just the timing that's getting people in a tizz. No manager, three starting XI players gone and no adequate cover (currently).


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 12:21:55
 The current scenario has always been predictable, what is less predictable is how Power is going to deal with it  and keep us in Div 3.

Saturday is now massive, we need to see that the remaining players and staff still have the heart for a relegation battle, and are not just throwing the towel in.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: ferret on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 13:07:28
The current scenario has always been predictable, what is less predictable is how Power is going to deal with it  and keep us in Div 3.

Saturday is now massive, we need to see that the remaining players and staff still have the heart for a relegation battle, and are not just throwing the towel in.

New year... same monotonous, tedious drivel.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 13:17:01
It's just the timing that's getting people in a tizz. No manager, three starting XI players gone and no adequate cover (currently).

And the prospect of the time taken in having to bed the new players in (assuming we don't get some of the old ones back).



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Miles Mayhem on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 13:23:48
New year... same monotonous, tedious drivel.

I know but maybe next time you could think of some thing better to say


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 13:29:09
Could be worse we could be Bolton and be depending on the charm and Charisma of McGinley and Davies to attract investment - I normally want fans initiatives to succeed but their involvement makes that difficult...


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Frigby Daser on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 13:29:18
Maybe Power could give McCrory a call. If we had another short burst of Jed, we may see some real quality come back in. After all, Jed got us Luongo and Byrne.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: nigel grays a postie on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 13:43:59

"It's just the timing that's getting people in a tizz. No manager, three starting XI players gone and no adequate cover"

True to an extent but also the fact that Power has been quoted as saying that deals likely to be sorted for all of them for rest of season. Double bluff or bullshit?

Just hoping that our lack of defenders doesn't mean Nathan T rushed back too early yet again with the inevitable consequences


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 13:46:10
True to an extent but also the fact that Power has been quoted as saying that deals likely to be sorted for all of them for rest of season. Double bluff or bullshit?

Perhaps, maybe, their parent clubs just changed their mind?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: JoeMezz on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 13:55:37
We're going to sign Simon Cox


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Saxondale on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 14:11:25
Good midfielder now is he?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 14:15:47
Good midfielder now is he?


(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTXIsZhXESYu2I9ozyOZX9vMf6DwddqJ3tsKWpRWzbugMrNcKjqQg)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: theakston2k on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 14:26:14
Maybe Power could give McCrory a call. If we had another short burst of Jed, we may see some real quality come back in. After all, Jed got us Luongo and Byrne.
I'm guessing you are joking as those signings were obviously favours to Power from Sherwood.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 16:15:06
According to FLIC, Kevin Stewart is available to play for us from Saturday.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, January 7, 2016, 16:28:32
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTXIsZhXESYu2I9ozyOZX9vMf6DwddqJ3tsKWpRWzbugMrNcKjqQg)

Power should try and sign Karim Yoda from Getafe. OK he's just returned from injury, but he brightened up many a commentary on Getafe last season.


Title: Re: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Friday, January 8, 2016, 10:13:57
According to FLIC, Kevin Stewart is available to play for us from Saturday.
Sky say he's been recalled and could feature for Liverpool vs Exeter.


Title: Re: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, January 8, 2016, 10:19:21
Sky say he's been recalled and could feature for Liverpool vs Exeter.

Nice of them to not fuck us about, and no doubt Power will somehow get the blame.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: tans on Friday, January 8, 2016, 10:28:38
ASD says it is confirmed hes been recalled.

Well this is ideal.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Nemo on Friday, January 8, 2016, 10:29:27
Six out in four and a bit working days. It's efficient...


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, January 8, 2016, 10:31:35
Klopp's been a bit of a dick really from what I can tell. Didn't he also recall that other lad from Coventry on a whim as well, and some others? Like, yeah, fuck the lower league club's eh sunshine?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Friday, January 8, 2016, 10:37:20
Klopp's been a bit of a dick really from what I can tell. Didn't he also recall that other lad from Coventry on a whim as well, and some others? Like, yeah, fuck the lower league club's eh sunshine?

Ryan Kent was summoned to Liverpool for evaluation then went back (same with Vigouroux). However, Kent has also been recalled in the last 24 hours (along with Stewart and Sheyi Ojo).

Thank goodness Klopp doesn't need a keeper.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, January 8, 2016, 10:40:45
Quite.

I know it's his player's and he has every right to recall them and what not, but for fuck's sake Klopp. Even lower league teams have to make plans and preparations, a little notice would be good at least.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, January 8, 2016, 10:44:06
Anyway....

Just been having a browse on Coventry's site and they seem to think they're in for one of our strikers, probably Smith.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, January 8, 2016, 10:45:59
Tomorrow then we can field something resembling an XI.  Vigs: Barry,Turnbull, Branco, Boo: Rodgers, Traore, Yas (is he fit?) Robert: Obika, Ajose.  Bench is thin.....Belford, Brophy, Iandolo, Hylton, Balmy, I suppose Nathan will sit there, are Randall and Marshall still about?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Arriba on Friday, January 8, 2016, 10:50:58
Whether we like clubs taking back their players or not, it's the risk you take with loanees.
It highlights how threadbare the squad is and right when we don't need it.


Title: Re: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: DRS on Friday, January 8, 2016, 10:57:19
Nice of them to not fuck us about, and no doubt Power will somehow get the blame.
In their defence I knew about this Tuesday so I am sure the club did


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Honest Lee on Friday, January 8, 2016, 10:57:43
They can fucking have Jordan Williams too!


Title: Re: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, January 8, 2016, 10:58:54
In their defence I knew about this Tuesday so I am sure the club did

Did they? Fair enough, I take back what I said. It'll be the press being unreliable then.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Batch on Friday, January 8, 2016, 11:06:50
Just been having a browse on Coventry's site and they seem to think they're in for one of our strikers, probably Smith.

I'll be pretty fucked off if its Ajose or Obika


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, January 8, 2016, 11:07:15
They can fucking have Jordan Williams too!

We've been told he's going back, obviously because of fitness issues.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Batch on Friday, January 8, 2016, 11:07:34
Tomorrow then we can field something resembling an XI.  Vigs: Barry,Turnbull, Branco, Boo: Rodgers, Traore, Yas (is he fit?) Robert: Obika, Ajose.  Bench is thin.....Belford, Brophy, Iandolo, Hylton, Balmy, I suppose Nathan will sit there, are Randall and Marshall still about?

Stewart


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, January 8, 2016, 11:09:59
I'll be pretty fucked off if its Ajose or Obika

I reckon it's Ajose - why on earth would a team in the top six be chasing Smith? Ajose would be a good signing for them, and we'd get 500k that we didn't have five months ago. Good deal all round...

We'll go down, but not entirely sure that matters to the club at the moment?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Nemo on Friday, January 8, 2016, 11:10:51
I'll be pretty fucked off if its Ajose or Obika

If it's Ajose then we're approaching Fallon leaving in 2006 levels of fucked. Difference I suppose is that he'd be replaced, and Power's record has been better than most.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, January 8, 2016, 11:11:03
They seem to think they need a target man.


Title: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Batch on Friday, January 8, 2016, 11:15:53
Quote
I reckon it's Ajose - why on earth would a team in the top six be chasing Smith? Ajose would be a good signing for them, and we'd get 500k that we didn't have five months ago. Good deal all round...

We'll go down, but not entirely sure that matters to the club at the moment?
good deal all round??
going down doesn't matter to the club?

are you on drugs?
-----_-------

wouldn't have smith down as a target man, but if Coventry do fair enough!!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: JoeMezz on Friday, January 8, 2016, 11:17:19
I did see a tweet that LFC put up showing Kevin Stewart around their club. Thought it was weird he'd be there considering that he hasn't been injured for a few weeks now. Really puts us in the shit for tomorrow


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, January 8, 2016, 11:18:06
Stewart

I thought Jordan had been loaned back to Glentoran.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Friday, January 8, 2016, 11:19:43
I thought Jordan had been loaned back to Glentoran.

Nope. Well. It's not been announced by either side.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Batch on Friday, January 8, 2016, 11:21:40
Quote from: Reg Smeeton
Quote
Stewart
I thought Jordan had been loaned back to Glentoran.
earlier I thought Jordan was Kevin. it was very confusing.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: JoeMezz on Friday, January 8, 2016, 11:22:22
Wouldn't mind seeing Tommy Smith given a go in midfield tomorrow. Looked alright when I've seen him at Crewe and Newport this season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, January 8, 2016, 11:22:58
I'm sure Ling ruled out Stewart going back to Glentoran. That may have changed since though, of course.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, January 8, 2016, 11:27:46
Wouldn't mind seeing Tommy Smith given a go in midfield tomorrow. Looked alright when I've seen him at Crewe and Newport this season.

Is he the ginger who scored the worldly goal?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, January 8, 2016, 11:29:32
Here, extrapolate what you can for yourselves: http://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threads/62527-Swindon-striker


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: JoeMezz on Friday, January 8, 2016, 11:31:32
Is he the ginger who scored the worldly goal?

Yes


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: JoeMezz on Friday, January 8, 2016, 11:33:47
Here, extrapolate what you can for yourself: http://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threads/62527-Swindon-striker

They don't know a lot do they.

Smith - good in the air
Ajose - pacey
"They've just had a lad recalled from QPR, Ben Goodwin"

 :girlgiggle:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: tans on Friday, January 8, 2016, 11:35:45
They don't know a lot do they.

Smith - good in the air
Ajose - pacey
"They've just had a lad recalled from QPR, Ben Goodwin"

 :girlgiggle:

'There's a Jamie Calvin there too, quite rated I believe only 20'

'


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, January 8, 2016, 11:42:42
good deal all round??
going down doesn't matter to the club?

are you on drugs?
-----_-------

wouldn't have smith down as a target man, but if Coventry do fair enough!!

Clearly I need to work on my tongue-in-cheek tone.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, January 8, 2016, 11:50:41
If it's Ajose then we're approaching Fallon leaving in 2006 levels of fucked. Difference I suppose is that he'd be replaced, and Power's record has been better than most.

I've heard that we're lining up John Marquis from Millwall as replacement....Power likes Marquis, not so much for his goalscoring record, which isn't great but because he's also a Lewisham boy.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: suttonred on Friday, January 8, 2016, 11:55:05
I'm sure Ling ruled out Stewart going back to Glentoran. That may have changed since though, of course.

It was never on, something to do with international loan window meant we wouldn't be able to recall him, he would be there for the season and we didn't want that.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Red Frog on Friday, January 8, 2016, 11:55:24
I've heard that we're lining up John Marquis from Millwall as replacement....Power likes Marquis, not so much for his goalscoring record, which isn't great but because he's also a Lewisham boy.

You should see our complete list of targets:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:People_from_Lewisham (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:People_from_Lewisham)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, January 8, 2016, 12:00:03
You should see our complete list of targets:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:People_from_Lewisham (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:People_from_Lewisham)

Hope Powell  :hmmm:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, January 8, 2016, 12:11:28
Hope Powell  :hmmm:

Keeley Hazell??


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Nemo on Friday, January 8, 2016, 12:12:33
I've heard that we're lining up John Marquis from Millwall as replacement....Power likes Marquis, not so much for his goalscoring record, which isn't great but because he's also a Lewisham boy.

Blimey, a player who has been loaned out more times than Storey!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Marquis


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, January 8, 2016, 12:13:48
Keeley Hazell??

Who dat? I only know about a dozen on that list....footballers, John Regis and someone called Thatcher.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, January 8, 2016, 12:20:11
Who dat? I only know about a dozen on that list....footballers, John Regis and someone called Thatcher.

I will leave someone who is more IT literate than me to educate you and post a picture!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, January 8, 2016, 12:34:27
I'd be happy if we signed Keeley Hazell.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, January 8, 2016, 12:37:38
I will leave someone who is more IT literate than me to educate you and post a picture!

Looked her up, so no need. I'm sure she's a very nice girl, but doesn't do much for me.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Honest Lee on Friday, January 8, 2016, 12:52:00
Luke Williams on official site re Southend United

“I’ve watched them a couple of times,” he said. “We played them earlier in the season and they’re a good side. They’ve got very experienced manager and they’ve got momentum with them as well so it will be a tough game, we know that.

FFS  they have lost their last two games    3-0  & 4-0

Get the excuses in early!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Power to people on Friday, January 8, 2016, 12:55:14
Ryan Kent was summoned to Liverpool for evaluation then went back (same with Vigouroux). However, Kent has also been recalled in the last 24 hours (along with Stewart and Sheyi Ojo).

Thank goodness Klopp doesn't need a keeper.

Wasn't Vigs signed on a season long loan though, whereas the others were signed until Jan with the option until the end of the season - I might be wrong but I thought that is what I remember about the deals ?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Batch on Friday, January 8, 2016, 12:55:40
Clearly I need to work on my tongue-in-cheek tone.

Clearly my coffee:blood ratio is too low!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Paolo69 on Friday, January 8, 2016, 12:58:23
I'd be happy if we signed Keeley Hazell.

There's a "two up front" joke to be had here surely?!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Batch on Friday, January 8, 2016, 12:59:13
Wasn't Vigs signed on a season long loan though, whereas the others were signed until Jan with the option until the end of the season - I might be wrong but I thought that is what I remember about the deals ?

Potentially makes no difference, assuming it was a standard loan

Quote

Subject to the proviso that the duration of a Standard Loan must be the time between two Transfer Windows, Standard Loans can be for half a Season or a full Season.  Any recall clause requiring the early termination of a Standard Loan can only be included in a full Season Standard Loan and this can only be activated during the second (January) Transfer Window



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, January 8, 2016, 12:59:26
Luke Williams on official site re Southend United

“I’ve watched them a couple of times,” he said. “We played them earlier in the season and they’re a good side. They’ve got very experienced manager and they’ve got momentum with them as well so it will be a tough game, we know that.

FFS  they have lost their last two games    3-0  & 4-0

Get the excuses in early!


Think a small typo...should be Momentum, otherwise known as Corbynistas. 

More seriously Sarfend are one of those annoying sides who are better away than home....think only 2 defeats on the road. Given the circumstances, a point could be considered decent.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Batch on Friday, January 8, 2016, 13:01:53
Luke Williams on official site re Southend United
...
Get the excuses in early!

We've got better form than them in terms of points over the last 10.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Arriba on Friday, January 8, 2016, 13:14:58
Southend look an away win banker to me.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, January 8, 2016, 13:36:30
Need to get in a couple of full-backs, a central defender and a box to box central midfielder in the window. Get those and we'll be fine for the rest of the season in my opinion. We've got 3 loan spots available at the very least so hopefully we should see some incomings in these areas.

As for Tomorrow:

Vigs
Barry
Branco
Turnbull
Brophy
Traore
Kasim
Rogers
Robert
Obika
Ajose

That would be reasonably competitive, not like earlier in the season where we had barely any players fit.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Friday, January 8, 2016, 13:41:54
It's competitive but it's essentially the side that was losing all those games.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Paolo69 on Friday, January 8, 2016, 13:43:51
It's competitive but it's essentially the side that was losing all those games.

Other than Brophy is yet to start a game at left back (i think?) and Robert and Obika were injured meaning we ended up playing Ajose up front on his own. :-)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Friday, January 8, 2016, 13:44:28
Other than Brophy is yet to start a game at left back (i think?) and Robert and Obika were injured meaning we ended up playing Ajose up front on his own. :-)

'essentially', not exactly.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Paolo69 on Friday, January 8, 2016, 13:47:25
'essentially', not exactly.

Fair enough. Hopefully just having someone to support Ajose will make us at least more competitive than what we were during that losing run though. It has so far.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: RedRag on Friday, January 8, 2016, 14:11:05
Who dat? I only know about a dozen on that list....footballers, John Regis and someone called Thatcher.

Power could do worse than trawl round Lewisham

Here's a possible, admittedly ageing, line up

                                                      Scott Endersby (Swindon Town)

Ray Wallace (Soton)               Michael Turner (Norwich)   Richard Rufus (Charlton)             Anthony Barness (Charlton)

Frank Nouble (Swindon)            David Rocastle (Arsenal)   Julian Gray (C.Palace)          Bradley Wright Phillips (Soton)  
                                      
                                                   Lee Power (Norwich)  Rod Wallace (Soton)

Sub:              Maxi Priest (Southall & UB40)

Manager:       Hope Powell
 
Physio:          Keeley Hazell


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: pauld on Friday, January 8, 2016, 14:30:45
Isn't that Portuguese lad that's been training with us for months supposed to be signing now the window's open? That might change things a bit, assuming he's league-ready, rather than a development player


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: suttonred on Friday, January 8, 2016, 14:37:02
Need to get in a couple of full-backs, a central defender and a box to box central midfielder in the window. Get those and we'll be fine for the rest of the season in my opinion. We've got 3 loan spots available at the very least so hopefully we should see some incomings in these areas.

As for Tomorrow:

Vigs
Barry
Branco
Turnbull
Brophy
Traore
Kasim
Rogers
Robert
Obika
Ajose

That would be reasonably competitive, not like earlier in the season where we had barely any players fit.

No width, no penetration, and no pace. Back in the shit boring football fans. Prove me wrong fellas!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, January 8, 2016, 15:20:26
No width, no penetration, and no pace. Back in the shit boring football fans. Prove me wrong fellas!

This is why yesterday I suggested tomorow it's so important we see some fighting spirit...given losing 6 or 7 players and a manager since the last game it looks like the club is throwing the towel in and accepting Div 4 next season.

Sometimes however appearances are deceptive and we might get a siege mentality, here's hoping.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, January 8, 2016, 15:23:25
It's the Rodgers/Kasim/Traore trio that strikes fear and boredom into me but maybe it works if Robert is allowed to play at the peak? And Brophy at LB too? Crumbs. Is Boo not fit?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, January 8, 2016, 15:31:26
It's the Rodgers/Kasim/Traore trio that strikes fear and boredom into me but maybe it works if Robert is allowed to play at the peak? And Brophy at LB too? Crumbs. Is Boo not fit?

Only a complete managerial novice would risk starting with those 3...oh. You just have to have someone who can carry the ball foward, otherewise you're left with lumping up to the front 2.  I suppose an option might be to play Michael Smith, go with a three up top, pending, of course, if Michael is eligible, fit and ready to play.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: tans on Monday, January 11, 2016, 19:19:35
Will Randall off to Wolves then...

@tim_spiers_Star: Wolves are set to sign winger Will Randall, 18, from Swindon. Will go straight into the under-21 squad. Made nine appearances for the Robins


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, January 11, 2016, 19:26:33
Wondering where he'd disappeared to.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Exiled Bob on Monday, January 11, 2016, 20:13:51
If he's really going to Wolves he'll think it's up his own arsehole before long.....


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Monday, January 11, 2016, 20:54:46
That's a surprising one..


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Friday, January 15, 2016, 17:01:16
Michael Doughty. One month loan from QPR.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Saxondale on Friday, January 15, 2016, 17:01:57
Yep.

Who is he?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, January 15, 2016, 17:02:50
Who's he then, any good?

1 month? Maybe just cover for Thompson?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Friday, January 15, 2016, 17:06:20
The potential plus is that Chris Ramsey rated him enough for Doughty to begin the season in the QPR first team.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Batch on Friday, January 15, 2016, 19:33:11
At least he's played a bit on not totally green. 

Assume we could extend the month, or wait and see if we get Thompson back.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: THE FLASH on Saturday, January 16, 2016, 00:03:39
It's a new face... Amen to that...


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Thursday, January 28, 2016, 23:59:24
Any chance this can be updated so we know where we're at with contracts etc?
Edit - Just seen it's been done on the first page. Rodgers is the only midfielder contracted beyond the end of the season!!!! Robert has a 1 year option that I should imagine we will trigger.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Friday, January 29, 2016, 06:42:59
Any chance this can be updated so we know where we're at with contracts etc?
Edit - Just seen it's been done on the first page. Rodgers is the only midfielder contracted beyond the end of the season!!!! Robert has a 1 year option that I should imagine we will trigger.

I think have options on Obika and Robert, so the ball is in our court with those two.

Not sure about the others.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: tans on Friday, January 29, 2016, 06:55:05
10 contracted players for next season if we count the two who have options. Gonna be a fun summer ;)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, February 11, 2016, 11:59:55
Kasim out for 2 months then....


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, February 11, 2016, 12:05:29
Kasim out for 2 months then....

As he has essentially been out for the last 6 anyway may be a change to get another body in midfield?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Red Frog on Thursday, February 11, 2016, 12:05:36
Kasim out for 2 months then....

Gone into post-window depression?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: ronnie21 on Thursday, February 11, 2016, 16:02:18
So Yasser out for eight weeks, makes the refusal to sign Jack Stephens look a little silly now!  They didn't want him because they woudl have played him at the base of the diamond where Yasser plays!!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, February 11, 2016, 16:11:15
So Yasser out for eight weeks, makes the refusal to sign Jack Stephens look a little silly now!  They didn't want him because they woudl have played him at the base of the diamond where Yasser plays!!
Hopefully a good opportunity for Lee Marshall (fingers crossed)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: pauld on Thursday, February 11, 2016, 16:12:51
Gone into post-window depression?
Badly bruised ego


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, February 11, 2016, 16:18:49
Hopefully a good opportunity for Lee Marshall (fingers crossed)

Ideally you don't want to bring kids into a relegation battle. It's having too much inexperience that has got us into this mess in the first place.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, February 11, 2016, 16:25:20
Ideally you don't want to bring kids into a relegation battle. It's having too much inexperience that has got us into this mess in the first place.
True. But you gotta give the lad a chance at some point. There is also Thompson, Rodgers and Traore to help give him a rest if needed.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: suttonred on Thursday, February 11, 2016, 16:38:06
We've got Doughty as well to the end of the season, we didn't need Stephens for midfield as per before.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, February 11, 2016, 16:49:03
True. But you gotta give the lad a chance at some point. There is also Thompson, Rodgers and Traore to help give him a rest if needed.

Trouble is Louis hasn't played for weeks, is he anywhere near fitness? Traore seems to have gone AWOL, atm we have a midfield of Robert, Rodgers and Doughty.  The obvious solution would be a return to 3 at the back, which hasn't worked this season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Panda Paws on Thursday, February 11, 2016, 17:01:40
Thompson's fit for this weekend apparently.

      Rodgers
Doughty  Thompson
      Robert

Kids as cover I guess, but looks fine to me.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Ells on Thursday, February 11, 2016, 17:10:52
Trouble is Louis hasn't played for weeks, is he anywhere near fitness? Traore seems to have gone AWOL, atm we have a midfield of Robert, Rodgers and Doughty.  The obvious solution would be a return to 3 at the back, which hasn't worked this season.

Drissa was granted time off for personal reasons


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, February 11, 2016, 17:24:58
Drissa was granted time off for personal reasons

Come on Ells, you should know better.

He has a clause in his contract which means he must be paid more if he reaches a certain number of games. He's reached that limit and Power doesn't want to pay. FACT!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Posh Red on Thursday, February 11, 2016, 17:34:18
Come on Ells, you should know better.

He has a clause in his contract which means he must be paid more if he reaches a certain number of games. He's reached that limit and Power doesn't want to pay. FACT!

Actually I think you'll find that Power has sold him and pocketed all the money to pay for his Easter holidays


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: ferret on Thursday, February 11, 2016, 17:41:05
Drissa was granted time off for personal reasons

Yes but such a rational and short-term explanation would interfere with Reg Smeeton's forecasts of doom. Fortunately, he appears to be spectacularly wrong on an annual basis. 


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, February 11, 2016, 17:48:47
Drissa was granted time off for personal reasons

Mate of yours is he..... (sorry bugbear of mind is people referring to players by their first name, its almost as bad as JT!)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Ells on Thursday, February 11, 2016, 17:56:30
Come on Ells, you should know better.

He has a clause in his contract which means he must be paid more if he reaches a certain number of games. He's reached that limit and Power doesn't want to pay. FACT!

Sorry, I keep forgetting we're doomed and Power's a dastardly mix of Kim Jong Il and Robert Maxwell :doh: rookie mistakes.

Mate of yours is he..... (sorry bugbear of mind is people referring to players by their first name, its almost as bad as JT!)

Haha sorry, I think I think of him as Drissa because of the other Traores in football. I'll try to make sure it doesn't happen again :) JT shouldn't be a problem, I usually just think of him as "wanker"


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, February 11, 2016, 17:59:20

Haha sorry, I think I think of him as Drissa because of the other Traores in football. I'll try to make sure it doesn't happen again :) JT shouldn't be a problem, I usually just think of him as "wanker"

Ha - that banner they have at Chelsea is cringeworthy - I don't go in for the whole banner malarky but if we ever played them again and someone suggested a banner that said something along the lines of 'John Terry - Leader, Legend, Wanker' that would get my contribution.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: suttonred on Thursday, February 11, 2016, 18:19:00
Swap legend for Bell end and i'm in as well


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, February 11, 2016, 19:00:17
Sorry, I keep forgetting we're doomed and Power's a dastardly mix of Kim Jong Il and Robert Maxwell :doh: rookie mistakes.

Haha sorry, I think I think of him as Drissa because of the other Traores in football. I'll try to make sure it doesn't happen again :) JT shouldn't be a problem, I usually just think of him as "wanker"

Justin Tomlinson  :hmmm:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Ells on Thursday, February 11, 2016, 19:03:07
Justin Tomlinson  :hmmm:

Your ability to turn anything into a dig at the Tories is truly remarkable :D
Anyway, I'm a proud Southerner ;)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, February 11, 2016, 19:09:04
Thompson's fit for this weekend apparently.

      Rodgers
Doughty  Thompson
      Robert

Kids as cover I guess, but looks fine to me.

Good news if true, we need to win Saturday.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Saxondale on Thursday, February 11, 2016, 19:13:04
It's ok.  We'll win well on Saturday.  And then people will start saying 'oh put a run together and the playoffs ......blah blah blah'

Then we'll lose the next game and the facebook fans will be distraught and start demanding the board get sacked with no replacement.

As usual.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: ronnie21 on Thursday, February 11, 2016, 19:29:28
Thompson's fit for this weekend apparently.

      Rodgers
Doughty  Thompson
      Robert

Kids as cover I guess, but looks fine to me.
He only returned to some sort of training this week, doesn't start full training until next week - bench at best on Saturday!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, February 11, 2016, 19:52:36
training this week with the aim of playing at the end of the month was what Williams said wasn't it.

edit: yup

http://www.flicwiltshire.com/town-expecting-thompson-back-in-action-at-end-of-month/


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, February 11, 2016, 20:00:31
training this week with the aim of playing at the end of the month was what Williams said wasn't it.

Not so good then...assuming Branco is fit, it means he'll come back in and we'll have to go 3 at the back....ColU easily unpicked this at the CG earlier in the season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: tans on Thursday, February 11, 2016, 20:02:40
I hope they dont rush him back and he gets injured again. Be just our luck.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: LittleRed on Friday, February 12, 2016, 20:29:30
A bit off topi I know so mods please where necessary. Was at white hart lane last week and those this chant could be easily adapted for Swindon

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sIlwWPdo7Vs


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: tans on Tuesday, February 16, 2016, 14:00:36
Jamie Sendalls-white signs until end of season.

Was on trial in the summer


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: nigel grays a postie on Tuesday, February 16, 2016, 14:13:36
Since he is from N'Orn Ireland too maybe he can pal up with young Jordan Stewart?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, February 16, 2016, 14:20:49
remember him being on trial before this season.

Signed for Hamilton Accies but was released in January. Good to have a bit more squad depth at the back.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, February 16, 2016, 14:21:23
Since he is from N'Orn Ireland too maybe he can pal up with young Jordan Stewart?
Not sure about that as he was born and brought up in Kingston upon Thames.

Accies fans views on him....

http://www.acciesworld.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=603&p=7543&hilit=sendles#p7543


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, February 16, 2016, 14:36:47
much needed cover


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: suttonred on Tuesday, February 16, 2016, 15:03:36
I've never heard of him.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: A Gent Orange on Tuesday, February 16, 2016, 15:33:25
Disgraceful! We've had a really good look at a player, been unsure about paying to get him but thought he could have many of the qualities we need and entered into a low risk deal.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Tuesday, February 16, 2016, 16:48:20
Never heard of him... but he has a wikipedia page so must be ok..


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Posh Red on Tuesday, February 16, 2016, 17:33:49
Never heard of him... but he has a wikipedia page so must be ok..

Ab, but does he have a YouTube video of highlights


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, February 16, 2016, 17:45:00
much needed cover

Seems a good fit...we're desperate for a player, he's desperate for a club. Maybe Williams thought he had something when on trial....but Cooper didn't. Not being up to much for the Accies, isn't necessarily a sign of crapness, as Sweatie fitba is pretty primitive...neanderthal defenders, that sort of thing


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Tuesday, February 16, 2016, 17:55:25
Ab, but does he have a YouTube video of highlights

I hope so... let's hope he's as good as Henrik Ojamaa..


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, February 16, 2016, 19:07:11
Looks like he'll slot right in  :-[

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDNDadMbqZY


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, February 16, 2016, 19:30:54
Looks like he'll slot right in  :-[

 :)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, February 16, 2016, 19:32:28
Looks like he'll slot right in  :-[

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDNDadMbqZY

Perfect.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: suttonred on Tuesday, February 16, 2016, 20:13:03
Time for reverse universe. Ojamma, yinka, and Atiku looked great on YouTube, but were dogshit in reality. Maybe....


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: donkey on Wednesday, February 17, 2016, 09:22:21
Not sure about that as he was born and brought up in Kingston upon Thames.

Accies fans views on him....

http://www.acciesworld.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=603&p=7543&hilit=sendles#p7543

Can we start singing that Fat Dougie song. No idea what it's about, but it'll confuse the opposition.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, April 3, 2016, 07:58:29
GOALKEEPERS

1. Lawrence Vigouroux (Loan)
25. Tyrell Belford (2017)
32. Will Hendry (YTS)
33. Connor Johns (YTS)

DEFENDERS

2. Nathan Thompson (2017)
3. Brandon Ormonde-Ottewill (2017)
6. Jordan Turnbull (Loan)
15. James Brophy (2016)
21. Jamie Sendles-White (2016)
27. Brad Barry (2016)
29. Raphael Branco (2017)

MIDFIELDERS

4. Fabien Robert (2016)
7. Drissa Traore (2016)
8. Yaser Kasim (2016)
14. Michael Doughty (Loan)
18. Louis Thompson (Loan)
19. Jeremy Balmy (2016)
22. Lee Marshall (2016)
26. Anton Rodgers (2017)
28. Ellis Iandolo (2016)
31. Tom Smith (YTS)
35. Jordan Young (YTS)

FORWARDS

9. Michael Smith (2016)
10. Nicky Ajose (2018)
16. Jordan Stewart (2017)
20. Jonathan Obika (2016)
23. Josh Cooke (2016)
24. Jermaine Hylton (2017)  
30. Miles Storey (2016)
37. Jamie Calvin (2016)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, April 3, 2016, 08:00:42
With the season petering out and on the basis that Swindon don't do anything stupid like get relegated, what would you like to see happen with the squad during the summer?

I'd personally ditch Michael Smith, Miles Storey, Fabien Robert, James Brophy, Jeremy Balmy, Josh Cooke and Jamie Calvin (who I'm sure will play some part during our final game of the season).

Trigger Yaser Kasim's extension and see what happens.
Trigger Drissa Traore, Jon Obika, Brad Barry, Jamie Sendles-White with the intention to keep and continue to develop the latter two.
Offer new deals to Ellis Iandolo and maybe Lee Marshall.

Talk to QPR about Michael Doughty.
Talk to Liverpool about Lawrence Vigouroux but it won't end our world if this season is our only one with Larry as No.1
Let Louis Thompson go - he needs to develop elsewhere now.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Sunday, April 3, 2016, 08:07:34
Another year of Anton Rodgers  :(


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Sunday, April 3, 2016, 09:58:59
With the season petering out and on the basis that Swindon don't do anything stupid like get relegated, what would you like to see happen with the squad during the summer?

I'd personally ditch Michael Smith, Miles Storey, Fabien Robert, James Brophy, Jeremy Balmy, Josh Cooke and Jamie Calvin (who I'm sure will play some part during our final game of the season).

Trigger Yaser Kasim's extension and see what happens.
Trigger Drissa Traore, Jon Obika, Brad Barry, Jamie Sendles-White with the intention to keep and continue to develop the latter two.
Offer new deals to Ellis Iandolo and maybe Lee Marshall.

Talk to QPR about Michael Doughty.
Talk to Liverpool about Lawrence Vigouroux but it won't end our world if this season is our only one with Larry as No.1
Let Louis Thompson go - he needs to develop elsewhere now.
Definitely trigger Robert. Most talented player at the club.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, April 3, 2016, 10:02:51
I haven't seen enough of him and have few issues with staying (as he's rarely slated by fans). However, I just have a gut feeling that the people who do the signing and Luke Williams might want to look elsewhere.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Sunday, April 3, 2016, 10:11:48
I haven't seen enough of him and have few issues with staying (as he's rarely slated by fans). However, I just have a gut feeling that the people who do the signing and Luke Williams might want to look elsewhere.
If we played him in the number 10 role we'd see the best of him. He's on a different wavelength technically to anybody else we have & probably does things that a lot of his team mates don't anticipate which sometimes end up making him look the cunt as he's a step ahead of many imo. It is worrying the amount of time he spends on the bench though & I can see what you mean about us possibly looking elsewhere as I get the feeling that whoever makes the decisions isn't entirely convinced.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: A Gent Orange on Sunday, April 3, 2016, 10:14:12
Robert is an interesting one. Talented but injury-prone and prone to some odd decisions. Think Williams relationship and training ground behaviour with him will be key.

I'd dump Drissa. He understands the role better than some but has little talent or desire to play it. Games drift by him when he doesn't have the ball and when he does he can't make space so gets into a tussle. If he wins, the crowd love it as he looks committed but if he loses, he gives up.

Brophy has gone backwards of late but it is a huge step up and the raw materials are there.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Sunday, April 3, 2016, 10:53:55
Another year of Anton Rodgers  :(

Talk of Brendan getting the Swansea job, so maybe a source of some loan players.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Batch on Sunday, April 3, 2016, 12:40:15
Quote from: Costanza
Let Louis Thompson go - he needs to develop elsewhere now.

like Norwich :)

I know what you meant..


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Sunday, April 3, 2016, 13:16:24
It worries me that Lee Marshall has spent only a bit of time on the bench and even less on the pitch.

Really want him to make it.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: sonicyouth on Sunday, April 3, 2016, 13:17:57
Sendles-White looks decent, would prefer to see an experienced head alongside him next season in a back four with Nath at right back. Brophy, BOO and Barry all look like shite at defending though.

I never thought I'd say it but we need a Jamie Vincent type...


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Posh Red on Sunday, April 3, 2016, 15:45:45
I'd dump Drissa. He understands the role better than some but has little talent or desire to play it. Games drift by him when he doesn't have the ball and when he does he can't make space so gets into a tussle. If he wins, the crowd love it as he looks committed but if he loses, he gives up.

Strange how we all see things differently isn't it, but when he came on at Peterborough he changed the game in our favour, and we looked much better with him yesterday than we did without him


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Sunday, April 3, 2016, 18:23:10
 This is a difficult call....I'm not sure that any of the out of contract players have done enough to convince that they're definitely worthy of keeping.  However some have shown a bit of promise now and then and a lot of them were starting from a very low level, so the question is could they get better still with another season.

 The other factor is they'll be cheap... I make it 7 who've appeared quite regularly, so ...

 Brophy, quite handy at running with the ball, but I'm not really sure what position he's supposed to play, I'll guess he''ll be kept

 JSW, looks short of pace, but OK with the ball, I'll guess he'll be kept.

 Barry, did have a spell of consistency, but struggling of late....I suppose for a first season he's done enough to be kept.

 The 3 Frenchmen I'd bin, although Balmy has been comedy value.

 Iandolo, the first time I saw him I wasn't sure who he was, but thought he looked OK. It was later I realised who it was, and for a kid, showed a bit of promise....he'd be the one I'd definitely keep.



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: nigel grays a postie on Monday, April 4, 2016, 10:11:42
Sadly I think Lee Marshall and Josh Cooke will join the seemingly endless list of STFC youth teamers who get offered pro deal but never really proper chance to show if they have what it takes. Marshall looked good in comparison when he came on as sub for Agombar v Orient but that isn't setting bench mark very high. With no cover other than Hylton for the injured Jonathan Obika it doesn't say a lot for the clubs belief in Cooke's ability to make it that he so far has got zero pitch time from what is now a fair few chances on the bench. Landolo preferred to him as Hylton's replacement twice now.

Ditch Balmy and offer something to all the rest. Not sure Robert will stay beyond this season though. Never quite seemed to have made the most of his obvious ability. After a very good start I must admit I have been a bit disappointed with both number of goals and assists he has contributed since August.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Barry Scott on Monday, April 4, 2016, 10:30:09
Sadly I think Lee Marshall and Josh Cooke will join the seemingly endless list of STFC youth teamers who get offered pro deal but never really proper chance to show if they have what it takes. Marshall looked good in comparison when he came on as sub for Agombar v Orient but that isn't setting bench mark very high. With no cover other than Hylton for the injured Jonathan Obika it doesn't say a lot for the clubs belief in Cooke's ability to make it that he so far has got zero pitch time from what is now a fair few chances on the bench. Landolo preferred to him as Hylton's replacement twice now.

If they're not good enough, they're not good enough. Being from our youth shouldn't mean they have to play. We've not seen them in training, and players should be in the squad on merit, so I'd say it's highly likely they're just not good enough.

They might join a long list we've dropped, but they join a long list every club drops and few, if any, have ever proven anyone wrong over their ability of lack thereof.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, April 4, 2016, 11:01:01
How many youngsters have we released for shitness only for them to go on and make it elsewhere? I can't think of any.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Monday, April 4, 2016, 11:12:08
How many youngsters have we released for shitness only for them to go on and make it elsewhere? I can't think of any.

There is one but I can't remember his name. He went off to non-league, played for Rovers and then on to Middlesborough. Mixed race fella.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, April 4, 2016, 11:13:43
There is one but I can't remember his name. He went off to non-league, played for Rovers and then on to Middlesborough. Mixed race fella.

Mustapha Caryol.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Monday, April 4, 2016, 11:14:23
^^ thanks Reg


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: theakston2k on Monday, April 4, 2016, 11:39:13
There was Jonathan Stewart who was a shit keeper but bizarrely went to Fulham and the Portsmouth after us, never played for either but strange all the same. There was also some youngster we released who went to Sheffield Wednesday but again didn't actually play so basically other than Carayol it doesn't look like we made many mistakes.

Reinforces the point that we need to improve our academy and facilities and highlights the importance of this training ground being a success when it's up and running.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Barry Scott on Monday, April 4, 2016, 11:42:44
I don't think we released Carayol though. Didn't we allow him to follow Ince to Macclesfield?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, April 4, 2016, 11:43:14
How many youngsters have we released for shitness only for them to go on and make it elsewhere? I can't think of any.

Back in the days of McMahon, we picked up a couple of kids from Newbury; Scott Doe and Theo Walcott.  Cannon the coach had gone to watch Doe, and noticed Walcott.

Doe although released by us, is still playing at Conference level and has played well over 300 games at that or Div 4 level with D and R.  When he played youth football he was a forward at some point he became a defender...I don't suppose he'd be much worse than some we've had in that time.

Doe is at Boreham Wood, managed by Luke Garrard, who at 30 years of age is the youngest manager in the Conference.

Probably our 2 biggest misses were Ray Barlow and Dudley Tyler, both of whom played park football in Swindon, both played in the English top flight and Barlow capped by England, neither ever on Town's books.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Bogus Dave on Monday, April 4, 2016, 18:12:20
Dean Ashton is from Swindon and our network missed him


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, April 4, 2016, 18:24:27
Dean Ashton is from Swindon and our network missed him

 :crash:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, April 4, 2016, 18:48:48
There's been about a billion (rough figure) Swindon-born kids by the name of Mills who have had varied careers.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: michael on Monday, April 4, 2016, 19:07:32
Ben Thatcher is from Swindon and our network missed him.

James Constable, a lifelong fan, was purposely ignored by our network. When he finally appeared on our radar (admittedly we were at a low ebb during a rare, but shortlived, stint in Div 4) death threats from fans of the provincial club he played at prevented him from completing his dream move.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, April 4, 2016, 19:26:22
Brett Angell (and lesser known brother) is from Devizes. Scored plenty of goals in the Football League.

We are just listing Football League Moonrakers, right?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, April 4, 2016, 19:31:41
Brett Angell (and lesser known brother) is from Devizes. Scored plenty of goals in the Football League.

We are just listing Football League Moonrakers, right?
If thats the case then Mick Channon from Orcheston near Shrewton missed our net even though he nearly signed for us in 1978-79 under Bob Smith but that fell through and we signed David Peach instead.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Red Frog on Monday, April 4, 2016, 19:59:49
So what does a Wiltshire-born best XI look like then?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, April 5, 2016, 06:53:21
Not good, I'd wager. But could include Fitzroy Simpson, Darren Ambrose, Dean Ashton, Luke Young and the Thompsons.

Looks like we'd have to play Michael Pook.

I guess the Don and Harold Fleming were both Swindonians too?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, April 5, 2016, 06:57:23
Nah, the Don was born in Paulton, Somerset, as everyone knows. Fleming was born in Downton though and qualifies.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, April 5, 2016, 07:00:06
Ha ha, we do get to nick John Atyeo though, born in Westbury, Wilts.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, April 5, 2016, 07:13:22
A google search on the theme "professional footballers from Wiltshire" reveals one or two surprise names: Nathan Dyer (Trowbridge), Darren Eadie (Chippenham), Wayne Hatswell (Swindon) and Martin Foyle (Salisbury).


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Tuesday, April 5, 2016, 07:20:48
Wasn't Matty Tubbs a Salisbury boy? I also believe we looked at him a few years back very good finisher at conference and 4th division level.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: brocklesby red on Tuesday, April 5, 2016, 07:50:42
Good old google also has a Nathan born in Chester and Louis born in Dover,not sure how accurate that is though. Jordan Turnbull and Lewis Haldane both Trowbridge lads though


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, April 5, 2016, 07:58:17
Good old google also has a Nathan born in Chester and Louis born in Dover,not sure how accurate that is though. Jordan Turnbull and Lewis Haldane both Trowbridge lads though

Yep, amazing the number of players that come from Trowbridge. Could get a whole 11 just from there.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, April 5, 2016, 08:16:34
Rob Newman (Bristol City and Norwich) was born in Bradford on Avon and Matthew Bound (Swansea and Oxford) is from Melksham.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Honest Lee on Tuesday, April 5, 2016, 09:00:51
Kenny Stroud ?
Went to Penhill school.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, April 5, 2016, 09:20:07
Kenny Stroud ?
Went to Penhill school.

Wikipedia has him as being born in Fulham. Must have moved young though as he was playing for Swindon schools apparently.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, April 5, 2016, 09:29:20
Wikipedia has him as being born in Fulham. Must have moved young though as he was playing for Swindon schools apparently.

You can have his son David, who forgettably made two appearance in 05-06.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, April 5, 2016, 09:39:43
So, in conclusion, we haven't really let any kids go that we had who later turned out to be great.  Thus meaning our policy of flogging them while in the youth set-up is pretty sound and most people wanting to see our "own" would in fact see a shitter team than we can muster right now.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, April 5, 2016, 09:47:11
You can have his son David, who forgettably made two appearance in 05-06.

Nothing forgettable about his debut away at Huddersfield. He was quality that day.
Started the next (?) game against Boston(?) got injured and that was that.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, April 5, 2016, 10:03:38
So, answering my own original question, I come up with this attack-minded 11. Even with a century or more of resources, I think we'd struggle above Champ level. Just like today, we don't seem to make many great defenders in Wiltshire:

Sam Burton
 
Rob Newman - Matt Mills - Ben Thatcher - John Trollope

Fitzroy Simpson - Roger Smart - Ray Barlow - Darren Eadie

John Atyeo - Harold Fleming

Subs: Steve Mildenhall - Jordan Turnbull Adi Viveash - Andy Pearce - Paul Trollope - Nathan Dyer - Dean Ashton - Brett Angell Mick Channon - Ernie Hunt

Edit: Some Reg-influenced changes


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, April 5, 2016, 10:50:44
 You should have Ray Barlow in there, also a strong case for Bobby Woodruff, Cliff Jackson and Archie Bown.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, April 5, 2016, 11:04:33
You should have Ray Barlow in there, also a strong case for Bobby Woodruff, Cliff Jackson and Archie Bown.

Damn, knew you should be doing this instead of me. Didn't see these names come up as Wiltshire boys, and frankly have little idea of their quality relative to my selections, though as an England international Ray Barlow must go in. Feel free to suggest an alternative team. Still doesn't look world-beating though does it?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, April 5, 2016, 11:17:34
Damn, knew you should be doing this instead of me. Didn't see these names come up as Wiltshire boys, and frankly have little idea of their quality relative to my selections, though as an England international Ray Barlow must go in. Feel free to suggest an alternative team. Still doesn't look world-beating though does it?

John Atyeo and Harold Fleming would have been some front 2, Ernie Hunt would have to be in the starting XI, I noticed that Ern has one of those plaque things at the Ricoh, along with other Sky Blue legends like Killer Kilcline and Big Oggy.

Gentleman John and Our Arold, would probably have been the nicest front 2 in the history of the game....no arguing with the ref, diving, elbowing, spitting, shirt removing there.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, April 5, 2016, 11:31:40
John Atyeo and Harold Fleming would have been some front 2, Ernie Hunt would have to be in the starting XI, I noticed that Ern has one of those plaque things at the Ricoh, along with other Sky Blue legends like Killer Kilcline and Big Oggy.

Gentleman John and Our Arold, would probably have been the nicest front 2 in the history of the game....no arguing with the ref, diving, elbowing, spitting, shirt removing there.

Yes, forwards really haven't been a Wiltshire problem.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, April 5, 2016, 11:36:31
Yes, forwards really haven't been a Wiltshire problem.

You could have a back 2 of Andrew Thompson and Adi Viveash, neither quite made it with us but were well regarded elsewhere.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, April 5, 2016, 11:51:59
You could have a back 2 of Andrew Thompson and Adi Viveash, neither quite made it with us but were well regarded elsewhere.

Not sure they'd displace my choices though, who all except Trollope held their own in the top division at various times. Will put Viveash on the bench over Turnbull.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, April 5, 2016, 13:51:18
So turning attentions to those out of contract, is it obvious who to keep and who to let go ?

James Brophy  - Worth another year at L1 level perhaps
Jamie Sendles-White  - he's shown enough to earn a longer deal
Brad Barry - Has been improving so worth another 2 year deal surely
Fabien Robert - Undecided - shown at times there is talent so again worth another contract maybe
Drissa Traore - definitely worth keeping if Kasim is not staying
Yaser Kasim - Release him
Jeremy Balmy - release him
Lee Marshall - think injuries have kept him out so worth keeping
Ellis Iandolo - has shown enough to earn a new deal
Michael Smith - being released
Jonathan Obika - no comment needed
Josh Cooke - release him
Miles Storey - being released although it is beleived Power will want to get a fee due to his age
Jamie Calvin  - not seen anything of him to make a judgement


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Tuesday, April 5, 2016, 14:17:48
So turning attentions to those out of contract, is it obvious who to keep and who to let go ?

James Brophy  - Worth another year at L1 level perhaps
Jamie Sendles-White  - he's shown enough to earn a longer deal
Brad Barry - Has been improving so worth another 2 year deal surely
Fabien Robert - Undecided - shown at times there is talent so again worth another contract maybe
Drissa Traore - definitely worth keeping if Kasim is not staying
Yaser Kasim - Release him
Jeremy Balmy - release him
Lee Marshall - think injuries have kept him out so worth keeping
Ellis Iandolo - has shown enough to earn a new deal
Michael Smith - being released
Jonathan Obika - no comment needed
Josh Cooke - release him
Miles Storey - being released although it is beleived Power will want to get a fee due to his age
Jamie Calvin  - not seen anything of him to make a judgement

This is what I reckon they will do & not what I would do personally

Brophy - Release
Sendles-White - 1 year
Barry - 1 year
Robert - 1 year
Traore - 1 year
Kasim - 1 year but look to offload for a fee
Balmy - Release
Marshall - Release
Iandolo - 2 years
Smith - Release
Obika - 2 years
Cooke - Release
Storey - 1 year but look to offload for a fee
Calvin - Release


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: sonicyouth on Tuesday, April 5, 2016, 17:36:04
Who the fuck is Calvin?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: tans on Tuesday, April 5, 2016, 17:43:16
Who the fuck is Calvin?

Was signed in the autumn. Not played a minute yet i dont think


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, April 5, 2016, 17:48:10
Who the fuck is Calvin?

http://talksport.com/football/league-one-news-swindon-town-snap-former-watford-youngster-jamie-calvin-151127175833


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Ells on Tuesday, April 5, 2016, 17:54:23
Who the fuck is Calvin?

I'm glad it wasn't just me..


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: sonicyouth on Tuesday, April 5, 2016, 18:04:58
Has he even made the bench?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, April 5, 2016, 21:18:37
Has he even made the bench?

Nope.

Therefore he'll start up front against Shrewsbury on the final day...


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Friday, April 8, 2016, 17:12:38
Who the fuck is Calvin?
According to the bloke behind me at a match a couple of months ago, Tim Sherwood's nephew  :unsure:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Friday, April 8, 2016, 20:26:09
According to the bloke behind me at a match a couple of months ago, Tim Sherwood's nephew  :unsure:
Brilliant if true & would suggest that jobs for the boys is still very high on LP's agenda!!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: JoeMezz on Friday, April 8, 2016, 21:52:33
So turning attentions to those out of contract, is it obvious who to keep and who to let go ?

James Brophy  - Worth another year at L1 level perhaps
Jamie Sendles-White  - he's shown enough to earn a longer deal
Brad Barry - Has been improving so worth another 2 year deal surely
Fabien Robert - Undecided - shown at times there is talent so again worth another contract maybe
Drissa Traore - definitely worth keeping if Kasim is not staying
Yaser Kasim - Release him
Jeremy Balmy - release him
Lee Marshall - think injuries have kept him out so worth keeping
Ellis Iandolo - has shown enough to earn a new deal
Michael Smith - being released
Jonathan Obika - no comment needed
Josh Cooke - release him
Miles Storey - being released although it is beleived Power will want to get a fee due to his age
Jamie Calvin  - not seen anything of him to make a judgement

I'd tend to agree apart from I'd get rid of Brophy and extend Kasim just to get ££ from him


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Ells on Friday, April 8, 2016, 22:22:58
I'd tend to agree apart from I'd get rid of Brophy and extend Kasim just to get ££ from him

Brophy looks like he wants to be here though!
I can't see who would put in a bid for "I don't want to be here" era Kasim.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Panda Paws on Monday, April 18, 2016, 14:07:07
Lee Marshall playing in a development squad game for Sheff Wed this afternoon...


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Tails on Monday, April 18, 2016, 16:12:20
Surprised no ones mentioned it  :toocool:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, April 18, 2016, 16:17:56
Surprised no ones mentioned it  :toocool:

In fairness, Panda Paws posted it first.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: tans on Monday, April 18, 2016, 17:14:44
Jake Evans offered professional contract.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Monday, April 18, 2016, 17:31:02
Jake Evans offered professional contract.
Where's that been reported Tans? Twitter? Has Tom Smith been offered one aswell?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, April 18, 2016, 17:36:06
Where's that been reported Tans? Twitter? Has Tom Smith been offered one aswell?

Evans tweeted it.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, April 18, 2016, 17:36:40
Jake Evans offered professional contract.

What position is he Tans?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, April 18, 2016, 17:40:08
What position is he Tans?

I know I'm not tans but, Midfield (centre or left)

Source: swindon-town-fc.co.uk


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Monday, April 18, 2016, 17:41:29
Evans tweeted it.
Cheers.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, April 18, 2016, 18:38:20
I know I'm not tans but, Midfield (centre or left)

Source: swindon-town-fc.co.uk

Cheers :)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, April 28, 2016, 09:43:50
Jake Evans offered professional contract.

...and wastes no time by signing it.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Tails on Thursday, April 28, 2016, 09:54:09
Described himself as an attacking midfielder. So a lazy midfielder that can't be arsed to track back then  :hmmm:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, May 2, 2016, 12:21:05
It appears that we've activated another year for Smith:

http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/football/pompey/striker-interested-in-pompey-return-1-7359903


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: RobertT on Monday, May 2, 2016, 12:41:55
Given Power spent money getting him, the year option will provide the ability to recover some or all of that investment.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, May 2, 2016, 14:38:00
Given Power spent money getting him, the year option will provide the ability to recover some or all of that investment.

Clearly a nothing to lose move on our part....


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, May 2, 2016, 14:40:00
Seems perverse now when you think Cooper's starting strikers at Wembley were Smith and Hylton!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Monday, May 2, 2016, 15:24:13
Seems perverse now when you think Cooper's starting strikers at Wembley were Smith and Hylton!
Williams started at Wembley! Or did he? You've got me thinking now!!
Just checked & it was Obika. I went & I couldn't remember him playing!!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, May 2, 2016, 15:26:42
Smith missed a sitter in the first half so I suppose he started

Or was it Smith and Obika?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: REDBUCK on Monday, May 2, 2016, 15:44:43
http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/MatchCentre.asp?MatchID=20150403


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: adje on Monday, May 2, 2016, 16:00:41
That is a side that should have done a hell of a lot better than it did


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, May 2, 2016, 16:10:58
A turgid 90 minutes.

To be honest the 5-5 dampened my expectations pre-Preston.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: inept and tiresome on Monday, May 2, 2016, 20:15:09
A turgid 90 minutes.
Didn't think it reached the heights of turgid.
Firmly in the realms of abysmal.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, May 4, 2016, 15:53:58
Obligatory goodbye tweet from Lawrence Vigouroux.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, May 8, 2016, 14:08:00
JSW's twitter implies he'll be here next season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: ronnie21 on Sunday, May 8, 2016, 14:17:04
JSW's twitter implies he'll be here next season.
Played well today


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, May 8, 2016, 14:19:29
JSW's twitter implies he'll be here next season.
Would be a very good signing, I have been impressed with him the couple of times I saw him this season. Very calm just lacking a little pace, but then so was Calderwood and Taylor.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: blinkpip on Sunday, May 8, 2016, 16:09:50
Would be a very good signing, I have been impressed with him the couple of times I saw him this season. Very calm just lacking a little pace, but then so was Calderwood and Taylor.
And Greer.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, May 9, 2016, 09:29:44
James Brophy has definitely improved since I last saw him so I retract my call for him to be released.

I still think Traore, Robert, Balmy, Marshall and Cooke are done.

If Town have an option on Miles Storey, they'll take it in order to get a bigger fee. Same with Kasim and Smith.

Brophy, Iandolo, Sendles-White, Barry and Obika to be offered new terms.

I wonder what they'll do with Hylton who has a year left? I have an inkling he might be transfer listed.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: suttonred on Monday, May 9, 2016, 10:03:34
Hylton is a funny one. Not done very well, but been hampered by injuries and long spells down the pecking order, when he does get chance, by default he's either in a very weakened team, and/or up front on his own. Don't think anyone would buy him currently, but maybe a good pre season and we might see something next year. Maybe..


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, May 9, 2016, 10:15:17
From my end, it seems as though a lot of these players mentioned suffer from inconsistency.

They'll start of being slagged of as utter shite, then improve to become promising players that could make a difference next season, only then for them to become shite again and unfit even for L2, then improve to....... the cycle starts again.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, May 9, 2016, 10:24:03
From my end, it seems as though a lot of these players mentioned suffer from inconsistency.

They'll start of being slagged of as utter shite, then improve to become promising players that could make a difference next season, only then for them to become shite again and unfit even for L2, then improve to....... the cycle starts again.


I think inconsistency is what stops good players becoming great players, I used to watch a lot of Northern Premier games and there were players there who were as good as anyone in the premiership on their day, but that day was limited to about 2-3 games a season, whereas the best can do it week in and week out!.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, May 9, 2016, 11:16:57
Hylton is a funny one. Not done very well, but been hampered by injuries and long spells down the pecking order, when he does get chance, by default he's either in a very weakened team, and/or up front on his own. Don't think anyone would buy him currently, but maybe a good pre season and we might see something next year. Maybe..

I'd imagine Hylton will head off to FGR now, for a season in the Conference on loan.

Would be a good move....


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Monday, May 9, 2016, 11:36:15
I'd imagine Hylton will head off to FGR now, for a season in the Conference on loan.

Would be a good move....

Not a bad shout considering Samsung Pro contract winner Kayden Jackson has done reasonably well at Wrexham


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, May 9, 2016, 11:41:36
Not a bad shout considering Samsung Pro contract winner Kayden Jackson has done reasonably well at Wrexham

To the point that he's rejected a new contract at Wrexham.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, May 9, 2016, 12:01:55
I keep reading the loan rules have changed, presumably to our detriment, but have yet to read exactly how they've changed.

Anybody know?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, May 9, 2016, 12:04:53
No emergency loans anymore. Just the 2 windows to do your business.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, May 9, 2016, 12:08:37
No emergency loans anymore. Just the 2 windows to do your business.

What about numbers?  We currently rely on having shed loads of loans, in order to keep the wage bill down and field a team.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, May 9, 2016, 12:11:25
What about real emergencies though?

I expect most clubs at this level would be right royally screwed if they had their 1st and 2nd choice keepers out, for example. I doubt many have a Will Henry waiting in the sidelines. Some might be forced to play an inadequate youth player and it wouldn't be fair on them.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Monday, May 9, 2016, 12:16:30
Under the new rules, Football League clubs will still be prohibited from selecting more than five loan players in their 18-man match-day squad. They will also be prevented from borrowing more than four players a season from any one club, and no more than two over the age of 23.
And there is a specific provision regarding goalkeepers, with teams able to sign one at any time if they do not have a fit registered keeper who has made five senior appearances for any club.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, May 9, 2016, 12:18:32
Ah, that answers that. Cheers.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: lambourn red on Monday, May 9, 2016, 12:18:38
http://the72.co.uk/47108/enjoy-it-fifa-scraps-emergency-loans/

the rest of the rules remain the same , no more than 5 loans in the matchday squad. So only 6 month and season long loans now.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, May 9, 2016, 12:28:41
That shouldn't have that much of an impact on us as we primarily sign people up on long term loans anyway


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, May 9, 2016, 12:40:41
That shouldn't have that much of an impact on us as we primarily sign people up on long term loans anyway

Yes, but 2 of our long term loans got crocked pdq, we then shifted out a number of players in the window, so some emergency loans were the only way we could field a viable XI, even then we couldn't fill the bench.

I suppose if this forces Power into making decisions which don't put our continued presence as a Div 3 club into jeopardy, then it is a good thing.

However, you are at the mercy of other clubs when it comes to windows....it could be as with someone like a Byrne or Smith, last year, we couldn't move them on until late in the day.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, May 9, 2016, 12:58:44

However, you are at the mercy of other clubs when it comes to windows....it could be as with someone like a Byrne or Smith, last year, we couldn't move them on until late in the day.

We would never have been in this position if Jed had remained in charge, he could always have sorted us out some windows.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: ronnie21 on Monday, May 9, 2016, 13:29:53
I'd imagine Hylton will head off to FGR now, for a season in the Conference on loan.

Would be a good move....
So you don't think FGR will win their play-off final then Reg?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: suttonred on Monday, May 9, 2016, 13:31:57
We would never have been in this position if Jed had remained in charge, he could always have sorted us out some windows.

:) almost swallowed my e-lite


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, May 9, 2016, 14:26:56
So you don't think FGR will win their play-off final then Reg?

Well having been contending for auto for so long, they'd be worthy winners....but just think Grimsby will nick it.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, May 9, 2016, 14:31:26
I can see Hylton going to FGR on loan whether they're in the Conference or L2 next season. Whatever, it would be a good move for all parties I think.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Monday, May 9, 2016, 14:32:59
I can see Hylton going to FGR on loan whether they're in the Conference or L2 next season. Whatever, it would be a good move for all parties I think.
Based on Coopers snide little digs constantly since he left i would be amazed if we done any business with him ever.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, May 9, 2016, 14:34:15
Yes, you get the impression that we won't be going to FGR for a friendly this summer....


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 9, 2016, 15:56:34
So Luke Williams says we have interest from clubs after Ajose, with one of these rumoured to be Wolves.

I am guessing £800k would be about the going rate, I think we will take £1m if it was offered though.

Quote
Swindon Town won't turn down big offers for Ajose, says Williams
With a penalty and a tidy finish against Shrewsbury, Nicky Ajose finished off his personal League One season in mercurial fashion, checking in with 24 league goals in total. With the summer transfer window looming, manager Luke Williams admits Ajose may be heading for the exit door.

Despite missing stints of the season through injury, Ajose has made a regular habit of plundering goals against any opposition put in front of him.

While it has been a turbulent season for Swindon Town, with three managerial changes and patches of worrying winless streaks, Ajose's form has not faltered throughout.

Speaking after the final game of the League One season, manager Luke Williams was quick to praise the efforts of his potent number 10, though he highlighted the situation the club would face, should a bid come in for the forward.

"Obviously you need goals and when you've got a striker who's scoring 24 league goals that's so important,," Williams began.

"I think, to be honest, though, we have to say if Nicky is in hot demand - which I'm sure he is - and somebody tables an offer that the football club can't refuse then we have to accept that.

"We will find the next player to work with and try to make plenty of opportunities for somebody else," he added.

When questioned about his thoughts of Ajose potentially remaining with the club, Williams praised the forward's ability to do, in his view, the hardest thing in football.

"I'm not sure how Nicky would feel about that but for me personally I wouldn't lose too much sleep if Nicky was not whisked away from here," said Williams.

"I think it's a great thing to have somebody who can do the hardest thing in football," he added.

Ajose joined up with the Robins at the eleventh hour during last summer's transfer window, after being released by Championship side Leeds United.

Since then, Ajose has hit 24 goals in 38 appearances for Town, including a hat-trick in the home victory over Blackpool.

Ajose's blistering form, aided by a solid partnership with fellow striker Jon Obika, has seen his stock greatly increase.

The 24-year-old former Manchester United trainee is believed to be attracting the interest of Championship side Wolves, who are searching for the necessary firepower to send them back to England's premier division.



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, May 9, 2016, 16:06:24
You'd think after buying Byrne they'd steer clear of STFC


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: theakston2k on Monday, May 9, 2016, 16:09:12
If ever you wanted evidence that Ajose's game is all about goal scoring this is it, 24 goals and not a single assist. A bit of a freak stat.

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/league-one/top-scorers


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: michael on Monday, May 9, 2016, 16:10:17
What is most impressive about Ajose's goal haul this season is that he barely scored until Ling took over.

With ST sales (presumably) down and a training ground to pay for, there should be no doubt that he'll be sold this summer.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, May 9, 2016, 16:11:22
Would that be acceptable for a Championship club? Bearing in mind he'd more than likely score maybe half this season's total.


Title: Re:
Post by: FormerlyPlymRed on Monday, May 9, 2016, 16:11:59
Ajose would need a good partner to be a hit in the Championship, hope he stays here


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Panda Paws on Monday, May 9, 2016, 16:17:31
Ajose is one of those strikers that is a dying breed because he's useless up front on his own. Can't imagine many Championship clubs playing with two up, but him alongside someone like Daryl Murphy at Ipswich would work. Millwall tend to play with 2 up top too, Forest, Preston and Bristol City, maybe....

Any club doing proper due diligence on him will know that, thus there are very limited options for to move on really.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: RobertT on Monday, May 9, 2016, 16:29:27
You'd think after buying Byrne they'd steer clear of STFC

He's appeared in over half their league games since joining, a few more starts than sub appearances as well.  I completely missed that he scored against City.

For that division, that's a worthy spend I guess, especially as they keep saying good things about his potential.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: RobertT on Monday, May 9, 2016, 16:34:17
If ever you wanted evidence that Ajose's game is all about goal scoring this is it, 24 goals and not a single assist. A bit of a freak stat.

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/league-one/top-scorers

A modern day lower leagues Gary Lineker!  They just don't exist anymore, so this may be our saving grace as a club would have to find a way to fit him in.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: michael on Monday, May 9, 2016, 16:34:50
Ajose is one of those strikers that is a dying breed because he's useless up front on his own. Can't imagine many Championship clubs playing with two up, but him alongside someone like Daryl Murphy at Ipswich would work. Millwall tend to play with 2 up top too, Forest, Preston and Bristol City, maybe....

Any club doing proper due diligence on him will know that, thus there are very limited options for to move on really.

They'll also see that he's scored goals in a team where Rodgers and Traore can notch up 30+ appearances in midfield between them, sometimes even playing in the same starting XI!

It would be interesting to see Ajose's goals-to-shots ratio.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, May 9, 2016, 16:38:56
So then a L1 club would sell an asset if enough money was offered.

And in other news, a bear was today spotted entering a wood with some toilet paper.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 9, 2016, 16:41:57
man u sold Ronaldo because enough money was offered. it's what you do with it that counts


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: michael on Monday, May 9, 2016, 16:54:47
man u sold Ronaldo because enough money was offered. it's what you do with it that counts

Look what we eventually sold Matt Ritchie for. There were rumours of a much higher bid being turned down earlier in the season, but we rejected it to keep the side together.

George Ndah, we got a decent fee for, he then sadly spent most of the rest of his career injured!

Sell when you're offered an amount you are happy with. And if possible, reinvest to replace. The rules of the transfer market are quite simple.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Ginginho on Monday, May 9, 2016, 16:55:09
What is most impressive about Ajose's goal haul this season is that he barely scored until Ling took over.

With ST sales (presumably) down and a training ground to pay for, there should be no doubt that he'll be sold this summer.

Also worth noting that he scored only 5 goals up until beginning of November, then Ross Embleton was appointed as coach and he's bagged 18 goals since then.
Maybe a coincidence, but does seem to show an impact he's had since he's been appointed.



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Posh Red on Monday, May 9, 2016, 17:09:23
man u sold Ronaldo because enough money was offered. it's what you do with it that counts

I'd like to think that last season's sales has paid back most (if not all) of the money the Power put in to cover the costs before we could get to break even, so on that basis can re-invest.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: michael on Monday, May 9, 2016, 17:18:40
Didn't half of it go back to Spurs?

Say we cleared £2m back into the club, most of that would go towards losses and training ground. Power was quoted as saying he was owed £4million in January, possibly more now.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Posh Red on Monday, May 9, 2016, 17:26:13
Didn't half of it go back to Spurs?

Say we cleared £2m back into the club, most of that would go towards losses and training ground. Power was quoted as saying he was owed £4million in January, possibly more now.

That was for Luongo wasn't it, the money for Byrne & Gladwin was ours I thought, could be wrong though.

As for the training ground, isn't that coming out of his pocket. Hence why the club need to rent it back from him.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, May 9, 2016, 17:34:05
According to the abbreviated accounts (up to May 2015)  we were virtually debt free (-£87,000) before player sales, Wembley etc.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, May 9, 2016, 17:37:15
Based on Coopers snide little digs constantly since he left i would be amazed if we done any business with him ever.

Considering his record at Notts County I would suggest he would be better advised to keep his head down and show that he can be a decent manager on his own rather than bitching about his time here?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: RobertT on Monday, May 9, 2016, 18:14:35
According to the abbreviated accounts (up to May 2015)  we were virtually debt free (-£87,000) before player sales, Wembley etc.

That's not debt, that's the P&L.  Debt levels would be shown in the Balance Sheet and will have accrued in previous years.  Think it was around the £5m to £6m mark in total, which did include the secured charge Black holds on the club.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: RobertT on Monday, May 9, 2016, 18:37:03
https://companycheck.co.uk/company/00053100/SWINDON-TOWN-FOOTBALL-COMPANY-LIMITED/financial-accounts

Yep, nearly £5m in long term debt and overal net worth of -£6.6m!!  A basket case of a business that someone has to be funding, be it a person, a bank overdraft, loans, whatever.  But up to 31st May 2015 it was all bad - the player sales will have come in after this, so we should see a reduction in debt in the next accounts (Feb 2017).


Title: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 9, 2016, 18:37:55
Quote
I'd like to think that last season's sales has paid back most (if not all) of the money the Power put in to cover the costs before we could get to break even, so on that basis can re-invest.
who knows, that's the problem with closed owners. their prerogative blah blah blah.

I'm not expecting much to change, but given we can't loan our way out of a shit sandwich next year I hope we can at lest get a few prospects by offering reasonable wages compared to competing clubs. better strength in the (lack of) depth if you like.

oh and if ajose goes, it would be good to give game time to Hylton along side Obika in prec season. I'm yet to be convinced, but he's had about as much chance as Storey to impress do far.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: THE FLASH on Monday, May 9, 2016, 19:01:09
Ajose scores and nowt else.

A real asset to us this season but a team will have to accommodate him , rather than sign him as a useful additional.

I really hope we sign an imposing midfielder who can head, tackle and make a short pass to the footballing midfielders. Really missed a player like that who can cut up rough when the physical teams show up.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, May 9, 2016, 19:11:20
Ajose scores and nowt else.

A real asset to us this season but a team will have to accommodate him , rather than sign him as a useful additional.

I really hope we sign an imposing midfielder who can head, tackle and make a short pass to the footballing midfielders. Really missed a player like that who can cut up rough when the physical teams show up.
If Williams still has any contacts at Brighton we could do a lot worse than Rohan Ince. The bloke is a beast.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: suttonred on Monday, May 9, 2016, 19:32:48
chance=-0


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, May 9, 2016, 19:36:04
What about John Akinde is Ajose goes? Or is he Obika-like?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, May 9, 2016, 19:41:13
What about John Akinde is Ajose goes? Or is he Obika-like?

Complete donkey....think Trevor Benjamin.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Monday, May 9, 2016, 20:28:11
Complete donkey....think Trevor Benjamin.
I was staggered to hear on the football league show at the weekend that he has netted 20+ this season....it must not just be League 1 that has declined in standard.

Ajose is an interesting one, I agree with those who think he wouldn't cut it at a higher level as his all round game is very limited. That said, whilst half a million maximum would probably be the correct amount for him, I really don't know who would be an adequate replacement goals wise for that amount. Anyone got any thoughts aside from that carthorse Akinde?

Is 500k worth gambling survival for? I don't think so, and unless a club bids more than that I would like to think we'd keep him for another season. That said, listening to Williams post match yesterday I am sure he is off.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Monday, May 9, 2016, 21:02:31
Ajose scores and nowt else.

A real asset to us this season but a team will have to accommodate him , rather than sign him as a useful additional.

I really hope we sign an imposing midfielder who can head, tackle and make a short pass to the footballing midfielders. Really missed a player like that who can cut up rough when the physical teams show up.

Shame that Rodgers probably won't turn up for pre season having reinvented himself as a David Perkins type midfielder, which is exactly what we need at this level.


Title: Re: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, May 10, 2016, 06:38:08
Shame that Rodgers probably won't turn up for pre season having reinvented himself as a David Perkins type midfielder, which is exactly what we need at this level.
Sadly it's more likely to be a David Prutton type of midfielder?


Title: Re: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Tuesday, May 10, 2016, 07:18:51
Sadly it's more likely to be a David Prutton type of midfielder?

Ha, yes, he of the not so subtle "I don't want the ball from this throw in" hand signal.
If ever there was one signing that completely unbalanced a previously successful team then he was the one.


Title: Re: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Tuesday, May 10, 2016, 07:40:52
Ha, yes, he of the not so subtle "I don't want the ball from this throw in" hand signal.
If ever there was one signing that completely unbalanced a previously successful team then he was the one.

On paper, that team should've been decent!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, May 10, 2016, 09:14:20
It would be interesting to see Ajose's goals-to-shots ratio.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/league-one/top-scorers


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, May 10, 2016, 09:29:48
0 assists, that's a proper striker


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, May 10, 2016, 09:33:18
0 assists, that's a proper striker

Super Jon only has 2. Some of our defenders would be well up in the assist list...for the opposition.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, May 10, 2016, 09:34:32
I noticed in the Shrewsbury game Ajose was dropping deeper and getting more involved in the play. At one stage he was in our own half working back. I think this may be key next season given the slow and fairly static nature of our play at times.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, May 10, 2016, 09:35:10
Interesting to see Brad Barry got players' player. Think he's much more highly internally than externally...


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, May 10, 2016, 09:37:58
Some of our defenders would be well up in the assist list...for the opposition.

(https://media3.giphy.com/media/4AjWXJ8WjrK2Q/giphy.gif)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, May 10, 2016, 09:41:01
Super Jon only has 2. Some of our defenders would be well up in the assist list...for the opposition.

He has missed 2 sitters(ish) in the last 2 games. The one against Chesterfield did come quickly to him 6 yards out which went over the bar. Against Shrewsbury he had a great chance 12 yards out and again put it over the bar. 2 chances which you would expect Ajose to gobble up.

I don't think goalkeeper saves/drops for Ajose to tap in is counted as Assists, I think if they did, Jon's assist record would be much higher.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: nigel grays a postie on Tuesday, May 10, 2016, 09:46:05
so with 35 goals between them Nicky Ajose and Jonathan Obika are divisions best strike partnership. Certainly without Obika Ajose was no where near as effective as demonstrated by Cooper playing him out wide where he barely touched the ball for about a month. Ling going with 2 up front essentially saved us from the certainty of relegation that the previous formation would have brought about.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Saxondale on Wednesday, May 11, 2016, 15:32:23
BBC Wiltshire Sport ‏@BBCWiltsSport  1m1 minute ago
FOOTBALL @Official_STFC release Balmy Calvin Cooke Marshall Robert Traore. Sendles-White & Brophy sign till 2017 and 2018 respectively #stfc


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Panda Paws on Wednesday, May 11, 2016, 15:32:31
Retained list out according to Beeb:

Balmy, Calvin, Cooke, Marshall, Robert, Traore gone.

JSW and Brophy sign extensions (2017, 18 respectively).

Trigger option on Kasim, M Smith, Iandolo, Barry, Obika.

Negotiations continue with Tom Smith and HIM.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Saxondale on Wednesday, May 11, 2016, 15:33:10
Pleased with JSW and Brophy.  Not that arsed about those leaving.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Panda Paws on Wednesday, May 11, 2016, 15:33:30
Yep, can't grumble with any of that.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Saxondale on Wednesday, May 11, 2016, 15:34:21
I get the impression that a lot of people saw something in Robert but I suspect they are expect Iandolo to take that role?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Panda Paws on Wednesday, May 11, 2016, 15:35:51
Started the season on fire, hasn't really had an impact since... December if that?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, May 11, 2016, 15:47:47
No complaints at all.

Good to see we're putting more contract extension options in nowadays.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 11, 2016, 16:02:15
Yep as said above I agree with all of that, the only slight surprise is Robert who does some brilliant and some poor, flatters to decieve at times and always wants one more touch than he should. But I am guessing he was on a good wage and can easily be replaced as he barely featured since January.


Title: Re:
Post by: FormerlyPlymRed on Wednesday, May 11, 2016, 16:05:44
Cant grumble with that list, Robert had something but was crap since Xmas. Interesting to see who comes in


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: THE FLASH on Wednesday, May 11, 2016, 16:06:51
I did like Traore.....turned the game at Peterborough and home to Fleetwood.

Robert superb in patches.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 11, 2016, 16:13:30
So I am guessing that because we have triggered an extention for Kasim that if any club wants him now they will have to pay us a fee then?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, May 11, 2016, 16:16:36
Yep and Smith


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: THE FLASH on Wednesday, May 11, 2016, 16:23:24
Yep and Smith

Could be lumbered with Smithy!!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, May 11, 2016, 16:24:26
We've be lumbered with far, far worse.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 11, 2016, 16:25:18
Yep and Smith
I can't see Kasim being with us next season TBH so hopefully a nice fee and a solid replacement would be good.

Pompey want Smith according to some mates that are season ticket holders there but it could depend on if they get promoted via the play offs, so much for moving back up north! I recon a fee of about £80k would get Smith which is apparently what we paid Charlton for him (plus promotion add ons etc which haven't been triggered obviously).


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, May 11, 2016, 16:25:40
Depends which version we get! Looking at squad, if nothing changes (it will) I would only expect 5 or 6 coming in. That would be great for stability if it happens.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 11, 2016, 16:26:59
Depends which version we get! Looking at squad, if nothing changes (it will) I would only expect 5 or 6 coming in. That would be great for stability if it happens.
5 of those probably being season long loans, which have to be tied up before the season starts next season with no short term loans available.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, May 11, 2016, 16:29:37
I just hope Power bins the BOGOF agent he used for the Frenchmen.....said at the time, there's little gain in this market for a club like ours, and saw nothing to make me change that, despite Froggy's best efforts to paint me as some sort of racist.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, May 11, 2016, 16:30:43
See what he says tonight but LP said we would be switching away from multi loans on last phone in, more reliance on our own


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, May 11, 2016, 16:31:53
Apparently, Colchester only value Moncur at around £150,000. Alex Gilbey they value at £250,000.

Got to be even in our scope.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 11, 2016, 16:33:49
See what he says tonight but LP said we would be switching away from multi loans on last phone in, more reliance on our own
Oh I haven't heard that interview but could be interesting.

I guess we will find out soon enough, I just see most teams in the bottom 2 divisions utilising a full compliment to save on wages etc possibly and to get up numbers in case of emergency.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 11, 2016, 16:35:32
Apparently, Colchester only value Moncur at around £150,000. Alex Gilbey they value at £250,000.

Got to be even in our scope.
Sheff Utd local paper recons the feel will be closer to £1m for Moncur as they are after him, the Col U forum price him between £1 and £1.5m!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, May 11, 2016, 16:39:49
They could buy the whole Leicester squad and still balls up getting out of L1 :)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, May 11, 2016, 16:45:36
Am I right in thinking the French lads were all Cooper signings as opposed to Power.
Would make sense.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: leftside on Wednesday, May 11, 2016, 19:48:43
Pleased with the list, although Robert and Traore could have done a job if they were consistently fit enough.

One thing's for sure, we won't have a settled first 11 in place for the new season. Loaning clubs will wait for the best offer and help to fill gaps, and as we are a selling club, any one of our players, and especially those with only a year left on their contract are likely to be sold at any time an acceptable offer comes in. I'm not confident we will see Power splash the cash early.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Posh Red on Wednesday, May 11, 2016, 20:16:08
Traore is the only one I would have liked to see stay as Bob said a couple of games this season he came on and changed the game in our favour. Would also have been a useful player if (as seems likely) Kasim goes.

However the gas incident & missing games regularly for personal reasons cant have helped his cause


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, May 11, 2016, 20:18:16
More worried about the prospect of losing Ajose AND Obika to be honest. Power says Obika won't sign a new contract and is moving into his last year. It makes perfect business sense to cash in  :(

Of the list, Just repeating what has been said - I think Traore and Robert have had their moments. But they've not been key players for one reason or another. The rest...meh.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Posh Red on Wednesday, May 11, 2016, 20:24:20
Would be a potential disaster if we lost both Obika & Ajose.

I think most expect Ajose to go, I wonder if we can get Nichols from Peterborough as a replacement.
We were supposedly interested when he left Exeter & hasn't really had a look in at Posh


Title: Re: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Oaksey Moonraker on Thursday, May 12, 2016, 06:21:03
Sheff Utd local paper recons the feel will be closer to £1m for Moncur as they are after him, the Col U forum price him between £1 and £1.5m!
Apparently we are going to activate the King Herod clause in George Moncur's contract which means he must return to his place of birth.

Sent from my HTC One M9


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Red Frog on Thursday, May 12, 2016, 08:29:19
I just hope Power bins the BOGOF agent he used for the Frenchmen.....said at the time, there's little gain in this market for a club like ours, and saw nothing to make me change that, despite Froggy's best efforts to paint me as some sort of racist.

Go quote where I said anything of the sort, you old fool.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, May 12, 2016, 08:54:04
Go quote where I said anything of the sort, you old fool.

Quote
So why do you insist on picking out the French? De Gaulle? Culture envy? I know you're a bit old for new tricks, but could a hint of prejudice be clouding your judgment?

Quote
. So you can safely extend your little Englander instincts beyond Frog-bashing to a more general xenophobia.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, May 12, 2016, 08:57:30
Touchè


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: Red Frog on Thursday, May 12, 2016, 09:30:43
It's a little bit facebook-generation of you to escalate some gentle teasing of your inherent francophobia into racism.

Disappointed in you. You should have trolled me for ageism instead.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, May 12, 2016, 09:34:43
It's a little bit facebook-generation of you to escalate some gentle teasing of your inherent francophobia into racism.

Disappointed in you. You should have trolled me for ageism instead.

It's like an apology for being caught out... But not quite.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: suttonred on Thursday, May 12, 2016, 09:57:14
None of us on here are guilty of that of course are we..


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: adje on Thursday, May 12, 2016, 18:27:24
Blimey when i saw robert at southend i thought he looked one of the best players we'd had for years...but,you know,port vale on a tuesday night in feb...


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, May 12, 2016, 19:30:38
Watching Pompey v Plymouth and Argyle have a midfielder, Carey, who looks decent.

Hope our extensive scouting system is looking in.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: suttonred on Thursday, May 12, 2016, 19:47:54
Should be in the ex players, but interesting stat on the Beeb, in that this is Gary Roberts 7th successive season in the playoffs.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2015-16)
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Thursday, May 12, 2016, 19:59:25
Should be in the ex players, but interesting stat on the Beeb, in that this is Gary Roberts 7th successive season in the playoffs.

Just scored a cracking penalty to equalise.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Sunday, May 29, 2016, 21:35:17
Any news on Tom Smith signing a pro deal?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Ginginho on Monday, May 30, 2016, 03:53:03
Williams was interviewed on the radio a couple of days ago and said that Tom Smith hadn't signed a deal yet and was weighing up his options. In other words, looking elsewhere.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: corner on Monday, May 30, 2016, 06:53:08
Had an offer from Bournemouth, but want to play football apparently,


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Monday, May 30, 2016, 10:24:14
Had an offer from Bournemouth, but want to play football apparently,
If he wants to play football & develop he's nowhere more likely to do that than here, without stepping down!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: dphunt88 on Friday, June 3, 2016, 12:42:04
Williams was interviewed on the radio a couple of days ago and said that Tom Smith hadn't signed a deal yet and was weighing up his options. In other words, looking elsewhere.

It hasn't been announced yet but Tom Smith is staying at Swindon Town (from what I hear). Which I'm glad about. His exclusion from the senior squad post-Crewe goal scoring exploits was a peculiar one.

He had quite a serious injury post Christmas which kept him out of action for months - but from what I've seen of the U18s over the last couple of years, he's an out and out footballer (short passing on the deck), which will suit how Town play under Luke Williams.

With Yaser Kasim to leave over the summer ?? And Anton Rodgers the only senior central midfielder remaining, Smith and Jake Evans could see plenty of action in pre-season to press their case - with STFC recently notorious for signing players late in the summer window. 

Good luck to 'em both.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, June 3, 2016, 12:57:32
With Yaser Kasim to leave over the summer ?? And Anton Rodgers the only senior central midfielder remaining, Smith and Jake Evans could see plenty of action in pre-season to press their case - with STFC recently notorious for signing players late in the summer window. 
Don't forget the new signing John Goddard who is an attacking central midfielder also.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: A Gent Orange on Friday, June 3, 2016, 13:21:19
Looking at the sometimes reliable Transfermrkt, Goddard seems to have mostly played high on the left as a wide forward. Otherwise he was quite often a 10, more like Iandolo. Has also played a few times as a support striker or on the right.

There is just too many gaps in the squad to predict a shape but clearly there is flexibility in the formation, but the style is very set.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: dphunt88 on Friday, June 3, 2016, 14:47:05
There is just too many gaps in the squad to predict a shape but clearly there is flexibility in the formation, but the style is very set.

Working on a 3-5-2 formation, state of the squad currently:

GK - Belford, Henry (YTS)

CB - Sendles-White
CB - N.Thompson
CB - Rossi-Branco

RWB - Barry
LWB - Ormonde-Ottewill / Brophy

CM - Kasim / T.Smith (1st Year Pro)
CM - Rodgers / J.Evans (1st Year Pro)
AM - Goddard / Iandolo / J.Stewart

FOR - Ajose / Hylton / J.Young (YTS)
FOR - Obika / M.Smith

Before considering replacements for the sellables (Ajose, Kasim and M.Smith), reckon we'll be looking for a first choice goalkeeper, first team centre back, spare right back/right wing back and another first team central midfielder as a minimum.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, June 22, 2016, 16:02:56
Tom Smith signs a 1 year deal.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, June 22, 2016, 16:10:20
Anybody reckon Jordan Stewart will feature, or is his future with us already dead and buried?

I can't think of a player I've looked forward to seeing play for ages. Of course, he could just be crap.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, June 22, 2016, 16:11:29
Maybe. Maybe not.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, June 22, 2016, 16:12:42
That's cleared that up, then. I'll fret no more.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, June 22, 2016, 16:19:16
Glad to help.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Wednesday, June 22, 2016, 16:26:46
Anybody reckon Jordan Stewart will feature, or is his future with us already dead and buried?

I can't think of a player I've looked forward to seeing play for ages. Of course, he could just be crap.
I can't remember whether he was someone who was brought in and liked by Cooper or Williams/Power.

With the hassle that they have had about homesickness and apparent reluctance to play him then maybe he will be used as a make-weight to bring someone else over from N. Ireland?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, June 22, 2016, 16:31:43
On the basis that Power forked out money for him he must have rated the lad. I've heard he may have a bit of an attitude problem (Stewart not Power).


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, June 22, 2016, 19:02:27
Jordan Stewart needs a good pre-season.

Wonder what the deal with Will Henry is? I say this because he turns 18 next month which would make him too old (correct me if I'm wrong) for the U18's next season and therefore we would be offering a pro deal.

Wouldn't be super surprised to see Belford link up with Hale and Henry back-up Vigouroux/new No.1


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, June 22, 2016, 19:06:50
Jordan Stewart needs a good pre-season.

Wonder what the deal with Will Henry is? I say this because he turns 18 next month which would make him too old (correct me if I'm wrong) for the U18's next season and therefore we would be offering a pro deal.

Wouldn't be super surprised to see Belford link up with Hale and Henry back-up Vigouroux/new No.1
The rules on U18 registration are -

Quote
Under 18 – the player must be under the age of 18 as at midnight on 31st August in the
playing season.

So yes he would be ineligible to play for the U18's.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: phelpsieboy on Friday, June 24, 2016, 19:32:21
The rules on U18 registration are -

So yes he would be ineligible to play for the U18's.
Having looked at the official retained lists on the football leagues website, looking at the Swindon section for players under contract for next season, Will Henry is listed as under contract.

Link here
http://mobile.efl.com/news/article/2016/efl-club-retained-and-released-lists-published-3151313.aspx


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: tans on Saturday, June 25, 2016, 09:35:41
On that list it says Ryan Wood is listed as a scholar. He's obviously left as he has signed for Supermarine


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, June 25, 2016, 15:45:47
I suppose no news is good news re Obika and Kasim.

Back training Monday - hopefully things (ins and outs) will get a fucking move on.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: ronnie21 on Saturday, June 25, 2016, 16:53:35
I suppose no news is good news re Obika and Kasim.

Back training Monday - hopefully things (ins and outs) will get a fucking move on.
July 1st will be the day!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: nigel grays a postie on Monday, June 27, 2016, 13:10:48
http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/swindon_town_2014/14582217.GALLERY__Swindon_Town_report_for_pre_season_training/

somewhat depressing set of pics on adver site of first day back in training. Several I don't recognise but looks more like youth team session than highly drilled pro squad reporting back in advance of a promotion chasing campaign. Landolo, Tom Smith, Boo. Barry, Brophy, Nathan T, Stewart, Hylton all spotted but no Ajose, Vigs or new signings. Obika must feel like a grand dad. Guess Goddard might be in there but don't really know what he looks like. Hope a few more sign on before Supermarine in 12 days time


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, June 27, 2016, 13:12:07
Spot the A Triallist time


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, June 27, 2016, 13:21:58
Ah, so that time of the season has arrived.

It's June. There's plenty of time for players to arrive.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Paul Mason on Monday, June 27, 2016, 14:14:32
I agree, still early days but there will need to be quite a big recruitment drive in a short space of time come the 1st July. Ajose going this week so we need some strikers in to replace his goals plus players to replace Turnbull, Louis Thompson, Doughty to name a few


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, June 27, 2016, 14:20:41
5 weeks til first game. What happened to the 2 signings supposedly already sorted - Goddard may be one - and the 'getting business done early'.

I think a few ST waverers are waiting for a sign.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Sam Morshead on Monday, June 27, 2016, 14:24:56
Ajose off today


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: ronnie21 on Monday, June 27, 2016, 14:27:44
Ajose off today
Anybody coming in Sam?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: tans on Monday, June 27, 2016, 14:31:32
5 weeks til first game. What happened to the 2 signings supposedly already sorted - Goddard may be one - and the 'getting business done early'.

I think a few ST waverers are waiting for a sign.

Be interesting to see the current ST sales total


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, June 27, 2016, 14:33:51
I heard they are on a par with last year - which would be surprising.

I'm 2 of the waverers!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: tans on Monday, June 27, 2016, 14:41:41
Charlton journo says deal for Ajose to be done today


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Tails on Monday, June 27, 2016, 14:47:19
Hearing news that Ajose to Charlton will be done today


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Monday, June 27, 2016, 14:49:16
Accordng to Charlton local journo Ajose deal should be done toay


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Sam Morshead on Monday, June 27, 2016, 14:56:03
4pm announcement


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Tails on Monday, June 27, 2016, 15:15:06
4pm announcement

What about? ;-)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, June 27, 2016, 15:52:48
From The South London Mercury

'When news of Charlton’s bid leaked it was reported from the Wiltshire end that the fee was £800,000.

But The Mercury has been told it is significantly less than that, with Swindon lured into a deal with a heavy up-front payment.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: tans on Monday, June 27, 2016, 16:12:30
From The South London Mercury

'When news of Charlton’s bid leaked it was reported from the Wiltshire end that the fee was £800,000.

But The Mercury has been told it is significantly less than that, with Swindon lured into a deal with a heavy up-front payment.


Cash flow due to declining season ticket sales ;)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, June 27, 2016, 17:06:46
Cash flow due to declining season ticket sales ;)

Funding April through to August is always a problem with no cash coming in. Clubs up until the early 60's used to get around it by not paying the players, who would then have to find other work like playing cricket.  Mike Summerbee and Ernie Hunt used to dig graves in Radnor Street....Don Rogers used to work for Smiths the undertakers by the CG.

Thinking about it, now that we're out of the EU, clubs could go back to the old model....going to be loads of seasonal work around, picking fruit and veg, once the Eastern Europeans are deported. It would do the likes of BOO some good.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: woolster on Monday, June 27, 2016, 17:26:40
From The South London Mercury

'When news of Charlton’s bid leaked it was reported from the Wiltshire end that the fee was £800,000.

But The Mercury has been told it is significantly less than that,[/b] with Swindon lured into a deal with a heavy up-front payment.

trying to make out we got a good deal, when in fact we rolled over for a quick buck, *if true*


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Tails on Monday, June 27, 2016, 17:29:49
Hmm. Not sure. Power is usually pretty good at getting a good deal for us when he sells players.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, June 27, 2016, 17:34:22
Maybe, just maybe, he has a deal or 2 in the pipeline where he can get a better deal by paying in full up front.

Like Charlton did with Ajose


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Abrahammer on Monday, June 27, 2016, 17:49:41
Has there been any deal Power has done where he has been fucked over?

I'm pretty sure he has "won" every outgoing transfer deal he has been in charge of, no reason to expect any different this time


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, June 27, 2016, 18:01:44
Ojaama?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: nigel grays a postie on Monday, June 27, 2016, 18:09:44
Michael Smith?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, June 27, 2016, 18:11:51
 George Barker  :)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: newmarket red on Monday, June 27, 2016, 18:57:16
Im sure power has plenty of superstars to come in.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: phelpsieboy on Monday, June 27, 2016, 19:28:09
Having looked at the training photos on the adver, one of the players looks a lot like Jack Powell formerly of Millwall.

He definitely fits the mould.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, June 28, 2016, 08:23:33
Ojaama?
George Barker  :)
He said outgoing deals, unless you're suggesting we didn't get full value for those players when they left? ;)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Abrahammer on Tuesday, June 28, 2016, 09:07:27
He said outgoing deals, unless you're suggesting we didn't get full value for those players when they left? ;)


Indeed, might not have been clear but i meant anytime Power has negotiated a deal to sell a player to another club


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, June 28, 2016, 09:08:04
He said outgoing deals, unless you're suggesting we didn't get full value for those players when they left? ;)


I wouldn't have included Henrik, as getting rid of him at all, was good business....whereas we paid money for George, before he found his way to Gosport Borough


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: A Gent Orange on Tuesday, June 28, 2016, 09:16:28
Belford on loan to Southport for the season. Frees up that second slot...
http://southportfc.net/mobile/news/details.php?news_id=12289#news

"Southport FC can today confirm the season long loan signing of goalkeeper Tyrell Belford from Swindon Town - and striker John Cofie on a free transfer.

Belford joins the club with manager Andy Bishop planning to make the 22 year old his number one goalkeeper. No recall clause has been arranged meaning Southport will keep Tyrell on loan for the duration of the oncoming Vanarama National League season.

Belford has represented England at Under 17 level - and impressed after being given first team opportunities at Swindon during the middle of last season. Injury hampered the end of Belford's season but the youngster has been declared fit to continue his development at Southport.

Tyrell is the son of non-league manager Dale Belford and brother of Stranraer goalkeeper Cameron Belford who both have experience facing The Port in recent years.

Manager Andy Bishop told southportfc.net;"I'm delighted to have signed Ty Belford and I've been working on the deal for some time. I've followed his career since he was at Liverpool and watched his progress at Swindon. Ty has made appearances in League 1 and fought for the number 1 spot. I've been working hard in this area to find the right man and believe Ty is that person. "

"He's on a season long loan but I see him as our player because there's no recall clause. I'd like to thank Swindon for all their help getting the deal done."


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, June 28, 2016, 09:22:37
Belford on loan to Southport for the season. Frees up that second slot...
http://southportfc.net/mobile/news/details.php?news_id=12289#news

"Southport FC can today confirm the season long loan signing of goalkeeper Tyrell Belford from Swindon Town - and striker John Cofie on a free transfer.

Belford joins the club with manager Andy Bishop planning to make the 22 year old his number one goalkeeper. No recall clause has been arranged meaning Southport will keep Tyrell on loan for the duration of the oncoming Vanarama National League season.

Belford has represented England at Under 17 level - and impressed after being given first team opportunities at Swindon during the middle of last season. Injury hampered the end of Belford's season but the youngster has been declared fit to continue his development at Southport.

Tyrell is the son of non-league manager Dale Belford and brother of Stranraer goalkeeper Cameron Belford who both have experience facing The Port in recent years.

Manager Andy Bishop told southportfc.net;"I'm delighted to have signed Ty Belford and I've been working on the deal for some time. I've followed his career since he was at Liverpool and watched his progress at Swindon. Ty has made appearances in League 1 and fought for the number 1 spot. I've been working hard in this area to find the right man and believe Ty is that person. "

"He's on a season long loan but I see him as our player because there's no recall clause. I'd like to thank Swindon for all their help getting the deal done."

Good move all round.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, June 28, 2016, 09:25:10
Good move all round.
Very good move for all parties.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, June 28, 2016, 09:27:56
Very good move for all parties.

We'll be able to get regular updates on his progress at Haig Avenue from Paul D.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: THE FLASH on Tuesday, June 28, 2016, 09:37:20
I wouldn't have included Henrik, as getting rid of him at all, was good business....whereas we paid money for George, before he found his way to Gosport Borough

This one fucked Power big time.

See from Space he wasnt the full ticket!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, June 28, 2016, 10:13:02
http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/swindon_town_2014/14582217.GALLERY__Swindon_Town_report_for_pre_season_training/

somewhat depressing set of pics on adver site of first day back in training. Several I don't recognise but looks more like youth team session than highly drilled pro squad reporting back in advance of a promotion chasing campaign. Landolo, Tom Smith, Boo. Barry, Brophy, Nathan T, Stewart, Hylton all spotted but no Ajose, Vigs or new signings. Obika must feel like a grand dad. Guess Goddard might be in there but don't really know what he looks like. Hope a few more sign on before Supermarine in 12 days time

It's Iandolo. And it's not even July 1 FFS.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, June 28, 2016, 10:26:06
We'll be able to get regular updates on his progress at Haig Avenue from Paul D.
Will do! I'll be our Ty correspondent!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Honkytonk on Tuesday, June 28, 2016, 10:31:52
Having looked at the training photos on the adver, one of the players looks a lot like Jack Powell formerly of Millwall.

He definitely fits the mould.

Confirmed on Radio this morning (or beforehand if it has been confirmed elsewhere beforehand and I haven't noticed)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, June 28, 2016, 10:33:56
Confirmed on Radio this morning (or beforehand if it has been confirmed elsewhere beforehand and I haven't noticed)
Straight replacement for Kasim then.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Tuesday, June 28, 2016, 10:45:29
Straight replacement for Kasim then.

The Peckham Pirlo no less. According to his wiki page anyway.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Honkytonk on Tuesday, June 28, 2016, 13:39:22
Confirmed we'd got him on trial, not necessarily that we've signed him.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Ells on Tuesday, June 28, 2016, 13:42:55
The Peckham Pirlo no less. According to his wiki page anyway.

I hope we sign him just because of that.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Ells on Friday, July 8, 2016, 19:05:36
I see Barry and Ian have extended their contracts  :yay:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, July 21, 2016, 16:08:25
Will Henry signs a 2-year deal. I bet he can't believe his luck.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, July 21, 2016, 16:33:19
I bet Power/Williams can't believe their luck in having such a promising young keeper


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, July 21, 2016, 17:23:16
The more cynical of us will simply say that we've returned to the days of Jon Stewart, Matt Bulman, Mark Scott and Leigh Bedwell acting as cover for a mainstay number one and there's probably some truth in that but I've been really quite impressed with Henry from what I've seen of him. Vigs had a big injury last season too so there's every chance Henry could get games next season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, July 21, 2016, 17:26:36
I hope his kicking is better than Vigs.

He does sound and look from what I have seen as very promising, better than most back up keepers we have had in a while even at such a tender age.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, July 21, 2016, 17:30:32
Should really have 3 keepers. Vigs gets injured, Henry comes in, but who's on the bench then?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, July 21, 2016, 17:45:28
Should really have 3 keepers. Vigs gets injured, Henry comes in, but who's on the bench then?

Paul Crichton...obvious.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, July 21, 2016, 17:57:27
Could always sign this fella
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/goalkeeper-scores-sensational-goal-bournemouth-8462325


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: A Gent Orange on Thursday, July 21, 2016, 17:59:03
Emergency loans for goalkeepers do still exist - as far as I remember.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, July 22, 2016, 16:02:06
Kasim called up for a friendly for Iraq on 8th Aug. That's him out of the Coventry game.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: woolster on Friday, July 22, 2016, 16:08:12
Kasim called up for a friendly for Iraq on 8th Aug. That's him out of the Coventry game.
dont worry about it, we have plenty of cover :suicide:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, July 22, 2016, 16:12:48
I wonder if his call-ups are why nobody has come in for him yet, not much point in buying a player that can only play half the season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, July 22, 2016, 16:24:33
I'm convinced the reason is that Kasim needs to be the main man in midfield and even if he went to a Championship club I doubt he'd be afforded that.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: ibelieveinmrreeves on Saturday, August 6, 2016, 09:58:32
Squad numbers finally published:

1    Lawrence VIGOUROUX
 2    Nathan THOMPSON
 3    Brandon ORMONDE-OTTEWILL
 4    Conor THOMAS
 5    Anton RODGERS
 6    Jamie SENDLES-WHITE
 7    Michael DOUGHTY
 8    Yaser KASIM
 9    Jon OBIKA
 10    John GODDARD
 11    James BROPHY
 12    Will HENRY
 14    Ellis IANDOLO
 15    Tom SMITH
 16    Jordan STEWART
 18    Jake EVANS
 24    Jermaine HYLTON
 27    Bradley BARRY
 29    Raphael ROSSI-BRANCO
 35    Jordan YOUNG


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, August 18, 2016, 13:08:36
Delfuonso (sp?) signs till the end of the season


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Kinky Tom on Thursday, August 18, 2016, 13:18:42
Where you got that from FH?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Private Fraser on Thursday, August 18, 2016, 13:21:51
Where you got that from FH?

BBC Wiltshire Sport Tweet at 14:06:

BREAKING: Striker @Delfouneso_91 has signed for @Official_STFC until the end of the season


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Kinky Tom on Thursday, August 18, 2016, 13:23:09
10-4


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, August 18, 2016, 13:23:23
Interesting one, he must surely have something about him to get so many games at a higher level.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Riddick on Thursday, August 18, 2016, 13:28:46
He was a very bright young talent who seems to have lost his way. Hopefully Williams can do a job on him as he has done on a number of others.

I'm assuming there is a year option in there as well. Don't want to turn around a player and lose them for nothing 10 months later.


Title: Re:
Post by: FormerlyPlymRed on Thursday, August 18, 2016, 13:33:25
You would think that Power would have put in an a year option on the contract


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, August 18, 2016, 13:45:18
Fatbury thinks that he is a great player who needs the right club and that we are that club, that will do for me!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, August 18, 2016, 13:49:06
If I constantly all him Fonzy, how long will it take to become annoying?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, August 18, 2016, 14:00:27
Interesting one, he must surely have something about him to get so many games at a higher level.

Trevor Benjamin played in the Prem and cost Leicester a sizeable fee.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trevor_Benjamin

A lot of managers look for a template player in the Prem.....needs to be strong, run quickly, and kick the ball hard. Any football brain is a bonus, and will elevate the individual into the high transfer bracket.

A classic Villa example is Agbonlahor.....very quick had 3 seasons out of 11 where he reached double figures, 13 being the best.  Of course capped by England despite being a very limited footballer.  Maybe Villa thought Nathan D would be like this, perhaps he's the nous but lacks the physicality. Certainly Power/Williams will look for a footballer first and athlete second, should be interesting.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, August 18, 2016, 14:05:46
Trevor Benjamin played in the Prem and cost Leicester a sizeable fee.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trevor_Benjamin


If you type journeyman pro into Wikipedia does it just take you to Trevor Benjamin's page?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: reeves4england on Thursday, August 18, 2016, 14:21:01
Watched Delfouneso a few times while he was at Blackpool. He looked a fairly average player, but was in a well-below-average team. He played quite wide most of the time which goes some way to explaining his lack of goals. I doubt he'll be prolific for us but it's another body in, of a reasonable standard, which is a positive.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: JayBox325 on Thursday, August 18, 2016, 15:58:30
Watched Delfouneso a few times while he was at Blackpool. He looked a fairly average player, but was in a well-below-average team. He played quite wide most of the time which goes some way to explaining his lack of goals. I doubt he'll be prolific for us but it's another body in, of a reasonable standard, which is a positive.

I think he's a good addition. I am hoping he'll be similar in the way Obika plays. Spending 85% of his time with his back to goal holding the ball up and bringing others into play.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Kinky Tom on Thursday, August 18, 2016, 16:17:39
If he is indeed quick, as the Blackpool forum I had a look at suggests the hopefully he can play back to goal and also try to break the line.  Would be good to be able to vary phases of play, keep teams guessing.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: aroundthefur on Thursday, August 18, 2016, 16:51:49
Delfouneso's scoring record will obviously attract criticism but I think his strength and power up front could suit our style of play perfectly. Might be a case of him being able to play a role that suits both him and us in a way that hasnt happened yet in his career.

The signings of Norris and Delfouneso makes us far less dependent on Obika bring fit; a definite lesson learnt from last season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, August 18, 2016, 17:27:34
I read he's not bad in the air as well so offers us pace, strength and ability in the air.

Of course all this is heresay so hopefully he comes good on the pitch. At 25, he really needs to kick on in his career. Hopefully it's here.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Thursday, August 18, 2016, 18:14:21
We look to have a load of attacking options even with JO & LN out and possibly Anderson still to come in.

Just need that elusive left sided CB if possible, although JSW looks improved after a full pre season, but probably a decent backup if anyone does comes in.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Panda Paws on Thursday, August 18, 2016, 20:10:48
JSW was very good at Gillingham.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: RedRag on Thursday, August 18, 2016, 21:59:17
Never mind the 4-6-0 at Gills, how about a 0-4-6  "false no 5" system for Vale?  We may be forced to play this?

                          Vigs

      -            -            -           -

Doughty, Thomas,  Kasim,  Iandolo

Stewart,   Hylton,  Anderson, Delfouneso, Obika, Goddard


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: suttonred on Thursday, August 18, 2016, 23:07:38
You forgot Norris!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: stfcjack on Friday, August 19, 2016, 11:22:34
Delfouneso, so so good on Fifa 13 ultimate team!

We're gunna win the league


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Friday, August 19, 2016, 11:57:20
You forgot Norris!

And Jordan Young!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, August 31, 2016, 22:08:33
THE CURRENT SQUAD

GOALKEEPERS

(http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicVIGOUROL.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/77ea47f3-761a-4483-9ad2-508d0bbed4f4_zpsafaofpoj.jpg)

1. Lawrence Vigouroux (2019)
12. Will Henry (2018)

DEFENDERS

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/THOMPSON_zpsmvpw1xmt.png) (http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicORMONDEB.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Cmh9IAsWAAAEXe4_zps2au8vaz7.jpg?t=1470430051) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/13233_182swindon-v-blackpool_2168_zpsnbhjq6ln.jpg?t=1470429921) (http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicBROPHYJA.jpg)
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/ddc3c6ca-67f1-4b87-a1bd-3a2b36df7955_zpshnc5fq8v.png) (http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicBARRYBRA.jpg) (http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicRAPHAELR.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/8a849b0e-7d49-47c7-af5a-a12061c17177_zpsnxnwmroa.jpg)

2. Nathan Thompson (2017)
3. Brandon Ormonde-Ottewill (2017)
4. Conor Thomas (2019)
6. Jamie Sendles-White (2017)
11. James Brophy (2018)
20. Darnell Furlong (2017)
27. Brad Barry (2017)
28. Lloyd Jones (2017)
29. Raphael Branco (2017)


MIDFIELDERS

(http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicRODGERSA.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/4756c5ce-821b-4d63-97fd-59402856c3c8_zpsqmy09x1z.png) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicKASIMYAS.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/super2033_jpg_gallery_zpscgn4ffhw.jpg?t=1470429683)
(http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicIANDOLOE.jpg) (http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicSMITHTOM.jpg) (http://cdn.soccerwiki.org/images/player/83187.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/962eecb2-c95b-48d9-93b3-10ce374140cb_zpsfrcsujj6.jpg) (http://futhead.cursecdn.com/static/img/15/players/200900.png)

5. Anton Rodgers (2017)
7. Michael Doughty (2017)
8. Yaser Kasim (2017)
10. John Goddard (2019)
14. Ellis Iandolo (2017)
15. Tom Smith (2017)
16. Jordan Stewart (2017)
18. Jake Evans (2017)
--. Sean Murray (2017)

FORWARDS

(http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicOBIKAJON.jpg) (http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicHYLTONJE.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/34426447_jpg-pwrt3_zpsrtajurce.jpg?t=1471544185)
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Luke20Norris_jpg_gallery_zps79cscl1d.jpg?t=1470430891) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/7352580c-c9db-4777-8ec8-bf6c6a3ddcfc_zpswwuk4lcs.jpg)

9. Jonathan Obika (2017)
24. Jermaine Hylton (2017) 
23. Nathan Delfouneso (2017)
33. Luke Norris (2019)
35. Jordan Young (2019)

OUT ON LOAN

(http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicBELFORDT.jpg)

--. Tyrell Belford (2017)

* There may be some errors.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: JoeMezz on Wednesday, August 31, 2016, 22:13:27
Much stronger than last year


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, August 31, 2016, 22:17:35
we certainly should have a shit hot midfield. we'll see if that + strikers can compensate for the loss of ajose


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, August 31, 2016, 22:17:46
Jeez who's the oldest Grandad Branco 26?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Ells on Wednesday, August 31, 2016, 22:19:23
The pictures for Lloyd Jones and Rafa are the wrong way round, not that it matters :)

I do like the look of our squad. I wish people could stop bitching about Power's personality/Anton Rodger's shoelaces to focus on that.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Wednesday, August 31, 2016, 22:21:53
Decent looking squad...

Not even a hint of an Ojaama...

Has there been an official team photo yet?

Also, am I right in thinking no loans after today? Or did I just make that up?..


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, August 31, 2016, 22:26:48
Jeez who's the oldest Grandad Branco 26?

Correct.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, August 31, 2016, 22:27:45
Jeez I feel old.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Ells on Wednesday, August 31, 2016, 22:30:23
Decent looking squad...

Not even a hint of an Ojaama...

Has there been an official team photo yet?

Also, am I right in thinking no loans after today? Or did I just make that up?..

There's no emergency loan window anymore now no.

I'm very grateful to Branco.. He's the only one older than me!



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, August 31, 2016, 22:39:47
Looking at the contract bit, shouldn't Murray and Stewart be 2018?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Super Hans on Wednesday, August 31, 2016, 22:42:38
It's a decent squad with a number of players able to fill in various positions if needed.

4 centre backs with Thomas as cover. 4 wing backs, a plethora of central/attacking midfield options and 3 solid strikers with the likes of Hylton and Young to fill in when required.

Where we might struggle is having the lack of a poacher in the Ajose mould, a right place right time instinctive goalscorer. But they ain't cheap and in Doughty, Goddard and potentially Murray we have midfielders who should be able to supplement the strikers with a few between them.

Fairly positive on the whole for me, top half until January and see where we are doesn't seem an unrealistic target.

We also kept Thompson, Kasim and Obika, the three most important players in our squad in my opinion.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, August 31, 2016, 23:19:41
 Some sexy work by Costanza .


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: THE FLASH on Thursday, September 1, 2016, 06:54:14
THE CURRENT SQUAD

GOALKEEPERS

(http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicVIGOUROL.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/77ea47f3-761a-4483-9ad2-508d0bbed4f4_zpsafaofpoj.jpg)

1. Lawrence Vigouroux (2019)
12. Will Henry (2018)

DEFENDERS

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/THOMPSON_zpsmvpw1xmt.png) (http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicORMONDEB.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Cmh9IAsWAAAEXe4_zps2au8vaz7.jpg?t=1470430051) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/13233_182swindon-v-blackpool_2168_zpsnbhjq6ln.jpg?t=1470429921) (http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicBROPHYJA.jpg)
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/ddc3c6ca-67f1-4b87-a1bd-3a2b36df7955_zpshnc5fq8v.png) (http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicBARRYBRA.jpg) (http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicRAPHAELR.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/8a849b0e-7d49-47c7-af5a-a12061c17177_zpsnxnwmroa.jpg)

2. Nathan Thompson (2017)
3. Brandon Ormonde-Ottewill (2017)
4. Conor Thomas (2019)
6. Jamie Sendles-White (2017)
11. James Brophy (2018)
20. Darnell Furlong (2017)
27. Brad Barry (2017)
28. Lloyd Jones (2017)
29. Raphael Branco (2017)


MIDFIELDERS

(http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicRODGERSA.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/4756c5ce-821b-4d63-97fd-59402856c3c8_zpsqmy09x1z.png) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicKASIMYAS.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/super2033_jpg_gallery_zpscgn4ffhw.jpg?t=1470429683)
(http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicIANDOLOE.jpg) (http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicSMITHTOM.jpg) (http://cdn.soccerwiki.org/images/player/83187.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/962eecb2-c95b-48d9-93b3-10ce374140cb_zpsfrcsujj6.jpg) (http://futhead.cursecdn.com/static/img/15/players/200900.png)

5. Anton Rodgers (2017)
7. Michael Doughty (2017)
8. Yaser Kasim (2017)
10. John Goddard (2019)
14. Ellis Iandolo (2017)
15. Tom Smith (2017)
16. Jordan Stewart (2017)
18. Jake Evans (2017)
--. Sean Murray (2017)

FORWARDS

(http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicOBIKAJON.jpg) (http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicHYLTONJE.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/34426447_jpg-pwrt3_zpsrtajurce.jpg?t=1471544185)
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Luke20Norris_jpg_gallery_zps79cscl1d.jpg?t=1470430891) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/7352580c-c9db-4777-8ec8-bf6c6a3ddcfc_zpswwuk4lcs.jpg)

9. Jonathan Obika (2017)
24. Jermaine Hylton (2017) 
23. Nathan Delfouneso (2017)
33. Luke Norris (2019)
35. Jordan Young (2019)

OUT ON LOAN

(http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicBELFORDT.jpg)

--. Tyrell Belford (2017)

* There may be some errors.


Great work.....hopefully this can be updated ongoing...


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: @mwooly63 on Thursday, September 1, 2016, 16:01:02
Hope plenty of those have an additional year clause as 15* of our own contracted end next year  :eek:
Leaving us 7  :suicide:

* excluding Belford


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Thursday, September 1, 2016, 16:24:52
THE CURRENT SQUAD

GOALKEEPERS

(http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicVIGOUROL.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/77ea47f3-761a-4483-9ad2-508d0bbed4f4_zpsafaofpoj.jpg)

1. Lawrence Vigouroux (2019)
12. Will Henry (2018)

DEFENDERS

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/THOMPSON_zpsmvpw1xmt.png) (http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicORMONDEB.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Cmh9IAsWAAAEXe4_zps2au8vaz7.jpg?t=1470430051) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/13233_182swindon-v-blackpool_2168_zpsnbhjq6ln.jpg?t=1470429921) (http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicBROPHYJA.jpg)
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/ddc3c6ca-67f1-4b87-a1bd-3a2b36df7955_zpshnc5fq8v.png) (http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicBARRYBRA.jpg) (http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicRAPHAELR.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/8a849b0e-7d49-47c7-af5a-a12061c17177_zpsnxnwmroa.jpg)

2. Nathan Thompson (2017)
3. Brandon Ormonde-Ottewill (2017)
4. Conor Thomas (2019)
6. Jamie Sendles-White (2017)
11. James Brophy (2018)
20. Darnell Furlong (2017)
27. Brad Barry (2017)
28. Lloyd Jones (2017)
29. Raphael Branco (2017)


MIDFIELDERS

(http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicRODGERSA.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/4756c5ce-821b-4d63-97fd-59402856c3c8_zpsqmy09x1z.png) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicKASIMYAS.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/super2033_jpg_gallery_zpscgn4ffhw.jpg?t=1470429683)
(http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicIANDOLOE.jpg) (http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicSMITHTOM.jpg) (http://cdn.soccerwiki.org/images/player/83187.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/962eecb2-c95b-48d9-93b3-10ce374140cb_zpsfrcsujj6.jpg) (http://futhead.cursecdn.com/static/img/15/players/200900.png)

5. Anton Rodgers (2017)
7. Michael Doughty (2017)
8. Yaser Kasim (2017)
10. John Goddard (2019)
14. Ellis Iandolo (2017)
15. Tom Smith (2017)
16. Jordan Stewart (2017)
18. Jake Evans (2017)
--. Sean Murray (2017)

FORWARDS

(http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicOBIKAJON.jpg) (http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicHYLTONJE.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/34426447_jpg-pwrt3_zpsrtajurce.jpg?t=1471544185)
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Luke20Norris_jpg_gallery_zps79cscl1d.jpg?t=1470430891) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/7352580c-c9db-4777-8ec8-bf6c6a3ddcfc_zpswwuk4lcs.jpg)

9. Jonathan Obika (2017)
24. Jermaine Hylton (2017) 
23. Nathan Delfouneso (2017)
33. Luke Norris (2019)
35. Jordan Young (2019)

OUT ON LOAN

(http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicBELFORDT.jpg)

--. Tyrell Belford (2017)

* There may be some errors.

Lovely stuff, but isn't Conor Thomas a midfielder?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, September 1, 2016, 16:40:17
Lovely stuff, but isn't Conor Thomas a midfielder?

For now....


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, September 1, 2016, 17:37:08
I reckon that Conor Thomas will play more as a centre back than a midfielder for us.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: JoeMezz on Friday, September 2, 2016, 19:18:27
Anyone else thinks that this squad draws parallels with 14/15 squad?

Lot of quality (and quantity) in midfield, hard working strikers who don't look particularly clinical.. don't think we're too far off what we were 2 years ago.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: suttonred on Friday, September 2, 2016, 19:21:39
I reckon that Conor Thomas will play more as a centre back than a midfielder for us.

He'll take yaser's place when he's unavailable.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, September 2, 2016, 22:08:03
I reckon that Conor Thomas will play more as a centre back than a midfielder for us.
Guessing he'll be back there tomorrow with JSW away.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: JoeMezz on Friday, September 2, 2016, 22:26:42
Guessing he'll be back there tomorrow with JSW away.

PLEASE instead of Branco


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: STFC4LIFE on Monday, September 5, 2016, 16:44:49
Good to see Branco and Obika starting against Wootton Bassett tonight, hopefully come through okay and can make the squad Saturday.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: JoeMezz on Monday, September 5, 2016, 18:28:46
Good to see Branco and Obika starting against Wootton Bassett tonight, hopefully come through okay and can make the squad Saturday.

Corrected for you  :D


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: digby on Monday, September 5, 2016, 19:19:12
Town 1-0 at Bassett half time
Nice finish from Obika - bottom corner from 10 yds


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: digby on Monday, September 5, 2016, 20:23:42
Finished 3-0 Hylton got the third. Must've been about 90% possession ! Sean Murray did not stand out at all. Tom Smith impressive.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: JoeMezz on Monday, September 5, 2016, 22:03:10
Lad called Will Christopher came on, I know him.. nice lad. How did he do?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: lambourn red on Monday, September 19, 2016, 14:49:39
JSW out for the rest of the season making the decision to not get in another recognised CB a bit silly with no emergency loans . This season is starting to mirror last season I just hope we don't get more long term injuries to key first team players .


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Monday, September 19, 2016, 15:01:52
That is a huge blow & could well lead to 4 at the back soon!!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, September 19, 2016, 15:09:43
So harsh on a player trying to establish himself, poor lad.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, September 19, 2016, 15:23:42
Thats a massive loss, hope he recovers quickly from such a nasty injury as that.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: lambourn red on Monday, September 19, 2016, 15:28:33
So harsh on a player trying to establish himself, poor lad.
Gutted for him because he is starting to bed in as a regular and I think he would have been keeping Branco out of the side. He is certainly going to be a miss especially with the disciplinary history of Thompson and Branco


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, September 19, 2016, 15:36:55
It's a heartbreaker for JSW as he's only signed up until the end of the season so he's got zero security.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Batch on Monday, September 19, 2016, 15:44:04
bugger


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, September 19, 2016, 15:52:27
It's a heartbreaker for JSW as he's only signed up until the end of the season so he's got zero security.
Even more so because he was on the verge of a call up to the NI full squad according to Luke Williams last week.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Tails on Monday, September 19, 2016, 15:53:15
Makes me even more fucking pissed off Tom Pope got away that challenge. Fucking cunt


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, September 19, 2016, 16:03:39
Makes me even more fucking pissed off Tom Pope got away that challenge. Fucking cunt

We do seem to suffer from players getting clattered and our opponents getting away scot free?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Tails on Monday, September 19, 2016, 16:29:55
I was angry at Wade Elliott ending Keith O'Halloran's career for a long time. The red card he got for Bristol City in THAT game was 13 years in the making.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Panda Paws on Monday, September 19, 2016, 16:31:00
It's a heartbreaker for JSW as he's only signed up until the end of the season so he's got zero security.

Pretty sure we've got an option, and if so we should activate publically immediately.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, October 4, 2016, 17:12:47
Total Sport Swindon ‏@TotalSportSwin  4m4 minutes ago
BREAKING: Jermaine Hylton has signed for Non-League Guiseley on loan until the end of the season #STFC


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 4, 2016, 17:15:33
Total Sport Swindon ‏@TotalSportSwin  4m4 minutes ago
BREAKING: Jermaine Hylton has signed for Non-League Guiseley on loan until the end of the season #STFC
Could be what he needs to get game time and goals, could spell easily the end of his career here too though.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, October 4, 2016, 17:21:11
Total sport still exists, I'm surprised by that. Not quite so surprised by Hylton leaving.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, October 4, 2016, 17:23:14
Total Sport Swindon ‏@TotalSportSwin  30s30 seconds ago
#STFC: @Hylton_24 signs for Non-League Guiseley on loan until January 1st

End of season or January 1st?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 4, 2016, 17:28:02
Total Sport Swindon ‏@TotalSportSwin  30s30 seconds ago
#STFC: @Hylton_24 signs for Non-League Guiseley on loan until January 1st

End of season or January 1st?
We shall find out soon, I am sure Shaun Hodgetts has the insider info!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: sonicyouth on Tuesday, October 4, 2016, 17:28:39
Club has confirmed 1st Jan on Facebook


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Tuesday, October 4, 2016, 17:29:16
Always hoped it would work out for him here. That's a tough move imo, would have preferred him to go somewhere higher up that league, Guiseley are really struggling at the moment. At least he's gonna get gametime which is the main thing I suppose.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: scillyred on Tuesday, October 4, 2016, 17:58:55
Oddly, just come back from Guiseley/Bradford after a rare mainland trip to a family funeral on Friday & in my youth used to live there ! Random famous, facts Harry Corbett of Sooty fame lived there and once helped my Mum get my pram out of a snowdrift & the world famous Harry Ramsden's fish and chip restaurant was located there, before it 'sold out' - now called the Wetherby Whaler. Hardcore - wonder if I have a future writing match day threads  :no:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, October 4, 2016, 18:32:16
wonder if I have a future writing match day threads  :no:

We'll keep you in mind in case we play Guiseley ;)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, October 4, 2016, 19:32:16
What's happened to Belford then? Doesn't get in the Southport squad anymore, did they realise he wasn't very good and bring that Fulham fella in?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, October 4, 2016, 19:33:07
What's happened to Belford then? Doesn't get in the Southport squad anymore, did they realise he wasn't very good and bring that Fulham fella in?

Change of manager was the probable downfall for Belford at Southport.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 4, 2016, 19:33:52
Change of manager was the probable downfall for Belford at Southport.
No, we wont have him back in January thank you Southport....


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, October 4, 2016, 19:34:38
No, we wont have him back in January thank you Southport....
Sounds like the end of his full time professional career when his contract runs down then.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: aroundthefur on Tuesday, October 4, 2016, 21:00:44
Hylton scores.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: suttonred on Tuesday, October 4, 2016, 21:02:14
Hylton scores.

Is he out there on his own in the dark?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: REDBUCK on Tuesday, October 4, 2016, 21:34:54
Is he out there on his own in the dark?

They must have wide barn doors there


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, October 5, 2016, 14:46:44
See the bow-legged one here - he looks good.
http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/swindon_town_2014/14783569._We_ll_keep_an_eye_on_Hylton___says_Williams_as_Guiseley_hint_at_permanent_deal/


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, October 5, 2016, 14:57:21
Town will favour a small fee instead of releasing Hylton in the summer. Which is fair enough.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, October 5, 2016, 15:02:34
Town will favour a small fee instead of releasing Hylton in the summer. Which is fair enough.
Indeed, a small fee (probably close to the £25k we paid for him) plus a sell on percentage just in case, makes sense as hes not getting games with us.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Wednesday, October 5, 2016, 15:04:05
Indeed, a small fee (probably close to the £25k we paid for him) plus a sell on percentage just in case, makes sense as hes not getting games with us.
I didn't think we paid anything for Hylton, bar the £1000 fine for the illegal approach!!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, October 5, 2016, 16:32:18
I didn't think we paid anything for Hylton, bar the £1000 fine for the illegal approach!!
You could be right, my mistake.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: JoeMezz on Friday, October 14, 2016, 12:06:27
Jones hip playing up again, wouldn't be surprised if it's a condition called hip impingement. Sounds similar symptoms to what I've got


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Friday, October 14, 2016, 14:53:49
Can you play CB?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: JoeMezz on Friday, October 14, 2016, 15:30:35
Can you play CB?

That's actually my position  8)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: corner on Wednesday, October 26, 2016, 17:39:22
Injury update, http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/team-news-luke-williams-provides-injury-update-ahead-of-scunthorpe-3384996.aspx


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, October 26, 2016, 17:43:18
So Branco sits out 3 games, plays an hour against Exeter and now has 'symptoms'.

Just wtf do the players do in training - or not do.

Good to hear Doughty is close.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, November 11, 2016, 14:21:48
We can take Ty Belford of the list, he's been released.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Tails on Friday, November 11, 2016, 14:22:35
Good luck to him. Cracking guy but just not good enough in the end.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, November 11, 2016, 14:32:17
Best thing for him, there's no way he'll be getting any game time.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Power to people on Wednesday, November 16, 2016, 13:46:27
I've just looked through that squad list and I would suggest there are not that many players that after now seeing them in games would be either dumped or used as bench warmers, out of the squad I'd keep:

Vigs
Henry

Thompson
Jones
Furlong
Brophy

Doughty
Obika

I would also keep

Goddard
Smith
Murray
 
but not sure they should be relied on week in week out for this season use them for a few games and then bench them to help their development


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, November 16, 2016, 14:02:50
THE CURRENT SQUAD

GOALKEEPERS

(http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicVIGOUROL.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/77ea47f3-761a-4483-9ad2-508d0bbed4f4_zpsafaofpoj.jpg)

1. Lawrence Vigouroux (2019)
12. Will Henry (2018)

DEFENDERS

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/THOMPSON_zpsmvpw1xmt.png) (http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicORMONDEB.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Cmh9IAsWAAAEXe4_zps2au8vaz7.jpg?t=1470430051) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/13233_182swindon-v-blackpool_2168_zpsnbhjq6ln.jpg?t=1470429921) (http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicBROPHYJA.jpg)
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/ddc3c6ca-67f1-4b87-a1bd-3a2b36df7955_zpshnc5fq8v.png) (http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicBARRYBRA.jpg) (http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicRAPHAELR.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/8a849b0e-7d49-47c7-af5a-a12061c17177_zpsnxnwmroa.jpg)

2. Nathan Thompson (2017)
3. Brandon Ormonde-Ottewill (2017)
4. Conor Thomas (2019)
6. Jamie Sendles-White
(2017)
- (long-term injury)
11. James Brophy (2018)
20. Darnell Furlong (2017)
27. Brad Barry (2017)
28. Lloyd Jones (2017)
29. Raphael Branco (2017)


MIDFIELDERS

(http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicRODGERSA.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/4756c5ce-821b-4d63-97fd-59402856c3c8_zpsqmy09x1z.png) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicKASIMYAS.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/super2033_jpg_gallery_zpscgn4ffhw.jpg?t=1470429683)
(http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicIANDOLOE.jpg) (http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicSMITHTOM.jpg) (http://cdn.soccerwiki.org/images/player/83187.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/962eecb2-c95b-48d9-93b3-10ce374140cb_zpsfrcsujj6.jpg) (http://futhead.cursecdn.com/static/img/15/players/200900.png)

5. Anton Rodgers (2017)
7. Michael Doughty (2017)
8. Yaser Kasim (2017)
10. John Goddard (2019)
14. Ellis Iandolo (2017)
15. Tom Smith (2017)
16. Jordan Stewart (2017)
18. Jake Evans (2017)
22. Sean Murray (2017)

FORWARDS

(http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicOBIKAJON.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/34426447_jpg-pwrt3_zpsrtajurce.jpg?t=1471544185)
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Luke20Norris_jpg_gallery_zps79cscl1d.jpg?t=1470430891) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/7352580c-c9db-4777-8ec8-bf6c6a3ddcfc_zpswwuk4lcs.jpg)

9. Jonathan Obika (2017)
23. Nathan Delfouneso (2017)
33. Luke Norris (2019)
35. Jordan Young (2019)

OUT ON LOAN

(http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicHYLTONJE.jpg)

24. Jermaine Hylton (2017)  

* There may be some errors.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, November 16, 2016, 14:21:43
Do we really only have 7 players contracted for more than this season?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, November 16, 2016, 14:48:29
Do we really only have 7 players contracted for more than this season?

That's probably a good thing. Although there are some on here who maintain the players are OK, it's the management/coaching at fault. I remain unconvinced, for me many of our lot will be lucky to pickup a Conference club in the summer or January if released then.  You can see the likes of Ty Belford, not good enough for the Conference relegation scrap, so has to try his luck in Conference North. Jermaine Hylton seems the same at Guisley.

It doesn't seem like a happy camp atm....Ells alluded to part of Nathan's job being pastoral, helping players integrate, find out where the best jerk chicken and rice n peas can be found etc, even he seems to have given up and will be out the door asap.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, November 16, 2016, 15:10:10
Do we really only have 7 players contracted for more than this season?

I might be wrong on a couple. We'll have options (Sendles-White for example) on a few.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, December 6, 2016, 15:50:48
I see Hylton has been recalled from Guiseley with immediate effect and is available to play tonight.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Tuesday, December 6, 2016, 15:53:52
I see Hylton has been recalled from Guiseley with immediate effect and is available to play tonight.
Seeing this reminded me we're playing tonight!! Who's going to be brave enough to reignite the matchday thread?


Title: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 6, 2016, 16:09:56
I thought he was injured?

so not featuring hissy fit because he's not playing recall, or injury cover recall, or flogging him in January recall?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, December 6, 2016, 16:11:38
If we get money for him that would be a right result. Thought he was doing really at Guisely - at least to start with.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, December 6, 2016, 16:15:16
Hylton hasn't played since October 22nd and suddenly he's fit enough to play for Swindon?

Sounds like something went wrong to me.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, December 6, 2016, 16:32:39
We can add Rhys Sharpe to the list.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: @mwooly63 on Tuesday, December 6, 2016, 16:33:43
We can add Rhys Sharpe to the list.

Haha beat me to it

http://mobile.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/town-hand-sharpe-short-term-deal-3454552.aspx


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, December 6, 2016, 16:34:12
And me, can remove my new thread if you wish BR


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, December 6, 2016, 16:39:25
He hasn't played for a while.. will he be Sharpe enough for tonight?


Title: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 6, 2016, 16:56:51
8 games, that's the experience covered off then.

odd one if you ask me, but we'll see..


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 6, 2016, 16:59:48
8 games, that's the experience covered off then.

odd one if you ask me, but we'll see..
Primarily a left back so I am thinking Brophy isn't going to be near full fitness for a while and with BOO's form being erratic to say the least it gives us another (cheap) option there.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, December 6, 2016, 17:03:02
He's been with us since Nov 1st so they should know if he's any good. He's also Irish and is longing to visit Waterford!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, December 6, 2016, 17:06:40
8 games, that's the experience covered off then.

odd one if you ask me, but we'll see..

I'd imagine someone will be off in Jan....perhaps Furlong recalled by QPR, or more likely Nathan, who's due to go for free in May, perhaps someone will nip in with 50 grand.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, December 6, 2016, 17:09:59
8 games, that's the experience covered off then.


What do you mean by 'covered off'?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, December 6, 2016, 17:11:33
Think he was sarcastically equating 8 games with the supposed intention of recruiting more experienced players.

Good point, too.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Tuesday, December 6, 2016, 17:12:53
or more likely Nathan, who's due to go for free in May, perhaps someone will nip in with 50 grand.

 :hmmm:
Just have a feeling that Nathan will sign a new contract.
Could be wrong of course, normally am.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, December 6, 2016, 17:14:03
Think he was sarcastically equating 8 games with the supposed intention of recruiting more experienced players.

Good point, too.

No,it's not a good point. Unless there's some kind of clause that doesn't allow us to sign other players as well.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 6, 2016, 17:14:29
Nathan will sign a new contract when it is offered to him.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, December 6, 2016, 17:14:42
Has anybody said just how short term this is anyway?


Title: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 6, 2016, 17:18:51
Quote
No,it's not a good point. Unless there's some kind of clause that doesn't allow us to sign other players as well.
I wasn't making a point really,  other than exercising sarcasm.

though I do wonder if we need this kind of gamble player  right now, assuming budget is as tight as expected. then someone mentioned Waterford...


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, December 6, 2016, 17:19:30
No,it's not a good point. Unless there's some kind of clause that doesn't allow us to sign other players as well.
Only in as much as I don't think we need another novice defender. He may well turn out to be fantastic but it's not really the sort of profile we need right now.

Short term deal, too - so the club aren't exactly convinced.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 6, 2016, 17:22:08
Has anybody said just how short term this is anyway?
No but I wouldn't be surprised if its only a month leaving him free again to get another club in January if we try him and he doesn't fit our system, despite training with us for several weeks now.

He has a chance with BOO and Brophy both carrying injuries at the moment too.

I hear JSW back in light training too a bit quicker than expected.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 6, 2016, 17:28:21
oh, didn't realise boo and brophy both crocked. makes more sense then


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, December 6, 2016, 17:52:40
I hear JSW back in light training too a bit quicker than expected.
I think to call it light training is pushing it. Looking at his twitter he's only just into the rehab phase and just starting to put weight through his knee. Can't see him being available until well into 2017.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 6, 2016, 19:36:26
oh, didn't realise boo and brophy both crocked. makes more sense then
BOO still carrying a knock from the Bradford game had a late fitness test today.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, December 16, 2016, 14:12:24
Here we go again. No Obika, Doughty or Kasim tomorrow.

Fuck knows what they do in training. Obika's done his neck heading a ball, ffs.

Doughty's got some gastric throat problem, whatever the fuck that is.

Looking after themselves until January?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, December 16, 2016, 14:37:47
Last week, some complained that we played him when he was sick. If he doesn't play tomorrow, I'm waiting to see how many of the same people will complain that we didn't.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: suttonred on Friday, December 16, 2016, 14:42:26
Are those 3 Sammy Igoe's adopted children or something?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Super Hans on Friday, December 16, 2016, 14:53:51
This season can finger blast itself.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Posh Red on Friday, December 16, 2016, 15:28:13
Last week, some complained that we played him when he was sick. If he doesn't play tomorrow, I'm waiting to see how many of the same people will complain that we didn't.

Even when he was sick he was better than our other option in the centre of midfield.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: donkey on Friday, December 16, 2016, 16:44:04
Even when he was sick he was better than our other option in the centre of midfield.

He's well sick.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Ells on Friday, December 16, 2016, 18:26:09
Are those 3 Sammy Igoe's adopted children or something?

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

We are hilarious.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Mrs Brown on Friday, December 16, 2016, 21:39:20
I reckon that Brophy is suffering from panic attacks.  They can present like heart problems but the club has confirmed that that the heart monitor has picked up no issue.  I have a feeling that he won't be a professional footballer for much longer.  I hope I'm wrong because he has shown signs of being a handy player.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Ells on Friday, December 16, 2016, 22:12:05
I reckon that Brophy is suffering from panic attacks.  They can present like heart problems but the club has confirmed that that the heart monitor has picked up no issue.  I have a feeling that he won't be a professional footballer for much longer.  I hope I'm wrong because he has shown signs of being a handy player.

Interesting theory. If he's been checked over that thoroughly though then panic attacks would be a pretty standard and easy diagnosis - I feel it would have been made by now. Just ask anyone who's worked in A&E!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Tails on Monday, December 19, 2016, 11:34:39
I reckon that Brophy is suffering from panic attacks.  They can present like heart problems but the club has confirmed that that the heart monitor has picked up no issue.  I have a feeling that he won't be a professional footballer for much longer.  I hope I'm wrong because he has shown signs of being a handy player.

I think it would more likely that he suffers from Anxiety but that's not a bad shout.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: ronnie21 on Monday, December 19, 2016, 15:48:38
Here we go again. No Obika, Doughty or Kasim tomorrow.
One out of three - not too bad!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, December 20, 2016, 11:57:06
http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/14975923.Williams_praises_impact_of_returning_Hylton/#comments-anchor

"Striker Obika will also continue to be monitored by the Swindon staff, although it is impossible at this stage to predict whether he will be fit to return to the side against Millwall on Boxing Day.

Williams said: “It’s too soon. One thing seems to lead to another with Jon at the moment so there is no point talking about time with him at the moment.”

Is it me, or does that sound like a bit of a dig?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: sonicyouth on Tuesday, December 20, 2016, 12:37:07
sounds like a dig to me as well


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, December 20, 2016, 12:39:34
http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/14975923.Williams_praises_impact_of_returning_Hylton/#comments-anchor

"Striker Obika will also continue to be monitored by the Swindon staff, although it is impossible at this stage to predict whether he will be fit to return to the side against Millwall on Boxing Day.

Williams said: “It’s too soon. One thing seems to lead to another with Jon at the moment so there is no point talking about time with him at the moment.”

Is it me, or does that sound like a bit of a dig?

Me and my dad had a chat about this yesterday and we may be putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 5 but we agreed there is a chance Jon has had enough and wants to move to another club and is no longer dedicated to playing for us. The recent interview with LW where he said Obika hurt his neck heading a ball and was then seen on crutches suggests that he is making himself unavailable for selection.

Or he could genuinely be injured of course but I reckon he'll be moving on in January, perhaps we've had an offer and he doesn't want to get injured before signing for his new team.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Tuesday, December 20, 2016, 12:42:55
Yep.

A trapped nerve in the neck wouldn't have bothered Bert Trautmann!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, December 20, 2016, 12:49:23
Shame if he is getting stroppy, he never struck me as the type.

It's all speculation though of course.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, December 20, 2016, 12:51:18
Alternatively his agent has told him there is interest in signing him in January and he is trying to stay fit by protecting his body


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, December 20, 2016, 12:51:21
Shame if he is getting stroppy, he never struck me as the type.

It's all speculation though of course.

As is about 95% of what goes on at STFC at the moment.

Did Power recently come out and said we are looking to sign 5 or 6 players in the Transfer window?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, December 20, 2016, 12:52:11
As is about 95% of what goes on at STFC at the moment.

Did Power recently come out and said we are looking to sign 5 or 6 players in the Transfer window?

Don't think he has put a number on it, he has said there will be in's and out's


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, December 20, 2016, 12:54:14
He's actually said there's no plans for any outs, it's ins that are priority. (although, every player has their price blah blah)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, December 20, 2016, 12:56:48
"We need to (move up the table) sooner rather than later", he began.

"We can't wait for the (transfer) window to open, obviously we need some new players in - that's evident. Obviously we just want to get the window open and try and do some business as quick as we can.

"We are underperforming and underachieving so we need to turn that around and get players fit.

"We haven't had the spine of the team throughout the season but we can't make excuses about it we just haven't been good enough - that's why we're 19th."

Since his arrival as chairman in 2013, Power has often been the subject of fan backlash for not spending enough on players, despite this summer spending £550,000 on Lawrence Vigouroux and Luke Norris combined as well as bringing in Johnny Goddard from Woking for an undisclosed fee.

"It's not just about the money," he said.

"Obviously that is important because you can only spend what you've got in the budget.

"Things get made about our budget but our budget this year is in the top half of this league."

The other worry is that Swindon have a number of key players - most notably club captain Nathan Thompson, Jon Obika and Yaser Kasim - being out-of-contract this summer who may leave on free transfers if they are not sold for a fee next month.

"If I'm honest we've just looked at people to bring in not the other way"

"If there are offers for (the out-of-contract players) then we'll have to look at it but we won't do that unless we've got replacements ready. We'll see what happens in the window but our focus is getting players in."


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, December 20, 2016, 12:57:14
Just found the articles. It does sound like we are looking to recruit heavily in the window. Good news, lets see if it pans out.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 20, 2016, 13:03:43
He's actually said there's no plans for any outs, it's ins that are priority. (although, every player has their price blah blah)
On Saturday pre game LP said some players would be moved on but the priority was ins rather than outs.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Private Fraser on Tuesday, December 20, 2016, 13:42:35
Town Development XI currently in action at Supermarine against Cheltenham.  Thomas, Smith, Murray and Delf playing.  Matt Edwards doing live Twitter feed, if anyone's interested.  Score currently 2 - 0 (Tom Smith 13m, Jack Stanley 45m).


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 20, 2016, 14:47:46
Town Development XI currently in action at Supermarine against Cheltenham.  Thomas, Smith, Murray and Delf playing.  Matt Edwards doing live Twitter feed, if anyone's interested.  Score currently 2 - 0 (Tom Smith 13m, Jack Stanley 45m).
2-2 now


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, December 20, 2016, 14:53:15
Conceded 2 in the last 5 minutes. Doh!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, December 20, 2016, 15:22:14
Conceded 2 in the last 5 minutes. Doh!

Didn't lose.  I believe we've lost all other games this season....so the curse of Cheltnumb not applicable here  :)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Mrs Brown on Tuesday, December 20, 2016, 21:16:03
So... if we're going to be buying players, let's hope that's done early in January and that we don't end up with the dregs that no-one else wants at the end of the month.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: donkey on Tuesday, December 20, 2016, 23:55:11
So... if we're going to be buying players, let's hope that's done early in January and that we don't end up with the dregs that no-one else wants at the end of the month.

Known in these parts as the Benyon Factor.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, December 21, 2016, 09:01:07
Quote from: donkey
Quote
So... if we're going to be buying players, let's hope that's done early in January and that we don't end up with the dregs that no-one else wants at the end of the month.
Known in these parts as the Benyon Factor.

and also plain old pre-season


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, December 21, 2016, 12:51:49
As we're seemingly headed  towards a half-season-pre-season, who do we think are essentially finished at Swindon, who are untouchable, who could improve with new players around then etc


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, December 21, 2016, 13:05:41
Probably different from who fans think should be jettisoned and who the club do.

My take - Delf, Thomas, BOO, Sharpe, Rodgers aren't up to it

Murray, Goddard, Norris, Branco should be kept

Kasim and Obika should be sold if possible

I like Brophy but something is amiss health-wise.

As for the gotta keeps - Vigs, Thompson, Doughty and Jones (hopefully see out their season-long loans)

Hylton's super performance on Saturday should be enough to warrant an extended run in the side.

It's the midfield we need to sort out - forwards at our level don't create their own chances, they need someone to do it for them.

Need CB option, ditto striker, ditto wingback. 4 decent additions should sort it.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Power to people on Wednesday, December 21, 2016, 13:26:17
Probably different from who fans think should be jettisoned and who the club do.

My take - Delf, Thomas, BOO, Sharpe, Rodgers aren't up to it

Murray, Goddard, Norris, Branco should be kept

Kasim and Obika should be sold if possible

I like Brophy but something is amiss health-wise.

As for the gotta keeps - Vigs, Thompson, Doughty and Jones (hopefully see out their season-long loans)

Hylton's super performance on Saturday should be enough to warrant an extended run in the side.

It's the midfield we need to sort out - forwards at our level don't create their own chances, they need someone to do it for them.

Need CB option, ditto striker, ditto wingback. 4 decent additions should sort it.

I suggest Branco is decent cover and Thomas is young and may still come good consistently, shame we wont be able to get a refund on Norris

I'd suggest we need 5-6 players minimum depending who we get rid of, we need to remember this is the last window so we need enough strength to avoid relegation.

Hopefully they wont all be youth prem reserves and Tim stick to what was said and gets 2 or 3 experienced players


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, December 21, 2016, 13:27:06
Almost impossible to call given no indication of budget/number in/out.

To go:
 - Delph. Pointless wen played as striker
 - Murray. Disappointing.To be honest Rodgers is more proven shite, but he seems to be more in favour and one has to go to make way for someone who can tackle.
 - Sharpe (gone already?),

In danger : Norris - I hope he's turned the corner. He may turn out great. But besides a single game he's thus far been hopeless in the league.
   Rodgers - see Murray above

Absolutely critical to keep :
   Obika- despite his injuries. Despite being out of contract. On current form I'd still rate him more likely to win us more points than the other options.
   Vigs, Thompson. Latter not everyone's favourite, but still of massive importance in my eyes

Depends which one turns up:
   Kasim - a class above everyone else Vs can't be arsed and often  injured
              

I realise at least one of  Kasim and Obika are on most peoples "get rid of" list. And I'd agree if I thought quality replacements would be brought in. But based on what we have seen thus far re
quality/experience  .....

I'm taking the loanees as here for the season .


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Panda Paws on Wednesday, December 21, 2016, 15:06:37
Build the team around (in an ideal world):

Vigs, Thompson, Jones, Thomas (has been excellent every time I've seen him. This is 4 times, however), Doughty, Murray, Kasim, Goddard, Obika

Keep, for now or later and revisit in the summer- "strength" in depth rather than key players:

Norris, Smith, Iandolo, Stewart, Henry, Delf, Boo, Hylton (last chance saloon), Barry, JSW... and Furlong I guess. Plus the kids - Young etc.

Melt down for glue:

Branco, Rodgers, Brophy, Sharpe (doesn't really seem to have had an impact)

So in January, would love to see a CB, another versatile defender, a LB, and a ST at least.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, December 21, 2016, 15:41:21
 I'd keep Nathan, and probably Branco,. but the rest can go as far as I'm concerned.  I suspect over the course of Jan and post season most will be gone, including Nathan.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Panda Paws on Wednesday, December 21, 2016, 16:09:40
Each to their own.... but Branco? Really?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, December 21, 2016, 16:25:34
Each to their own.... but Branco? Really?

Yeah, I like Branco. He's a kind of Div 3 David Luiz.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Wednesday, December 21, 2016, 17:14:36
I'd be pretty fucking brutal with this lot. I'd keep Thompson and Branco at the back. In midfield - only Doughty and Goddard. Up front only Beaks and Hylton may have won a reprieve. I'd keep Vigs. I'd keep the youngsters who have come up through our ranks, in particular Smith who I'd like to see more of. I wouldn't be unhappy to see more of Young and Henry. Stewart would stay but may be lucky that he hasn't had the opportunity to be total shit.
Furlong has done a Toffollo, started well and has progressively got worse and worse. Jones is an up to date Grant Hall - don't see anything in this lad at all. JSW had one good game but is generally crap. BOO is total wank as a defender. Barry has looked shite this season. Brophy I like but he clearly can't last a game and is defensively nearly as shit as BOO. The midfield I would just clear out. Thomas, Murray and Rogers are just shit. Kasim is quality at this level if he wants to but its not often enough. Norris and Delf can go. If Iandolo doesn't kick on this season he might as well go.
I'd take Branco over all the other centre halves bar Thompson. He had a good one Saturday but Reg sums him up perfectly as a poor mans David Luiz.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Tails on Wednesday, December 21, 2016, 18:42:47
Doughty and Furlong set to be recalled by QPR apparently


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, December 21, 2016, 19:04:20
Doughty and Furlong set to be recalled by QPR apparently

I hope this is a joke. A bad one.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, December 21, 2016, 19:05:21
I thought they couldn't recall season long loans.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Tails on Wednesday, December 21, 2016, 19:10:53
Only being reported atm so who knows.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, December 21, 2016, 19:16:46
I thought they couldn't recall season long loans.

They can if a standard loan...
Quote
53.1.2    any recall clause requiring the early termination of a Standard Loan can only be included in a full Season Standard Loan and this can only be activated during the second (January) Transfer Window;


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, December 21, 2016, 19:29:22
Not too sure I'd be disappointed much, Best game I've seen Furlong in was against us, and doughty although has talent, should have at least 10 goals in this league by now.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: leftside on Wednesday, December 21, 2016, 19:30:14
The difficulty with deciding who deserves culling is that one week any one of a number of players can look decent enough for div 3, but be utter pants the next. This inconsistency, coupled with fitness and contract issues means that I don't think any of us could come up with the same 'keep/get rid' list.

Take Beaks as an example. I know it is all ifs, buts and maybes, but I'd say most would automatically include him in the starting 11. But we'll probably be lucky to get another 10 starts out of him this season, which could mean about 3-4 goals. Is he worth keeping, especially if we're offered say £50,000 for him in January?




Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: leftside on Wednesday, December 21, 2016, 19:32:07
and doughty although has talent, should have at least 10 goals in this league by now.
Even taking his illness into account? If so, harsh. He's still not fully recovered.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, December 21, 2016, 19:32:34
Doughty and Furlong set to be recalled by QPR apparently

No surprise, both players standards have nose dived as the season has gone along....QPR are looking a good bet for a second half of season relegation plunge under Hollowhead, so he probably wants all his squad available.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Captain Beefheart on Wednesday, December 21, 2016, 20:19:22
Think Chalkies_Shorts is right. You can only be brutal with this group of players. They have consistently shown themselves to be too mentally weak to perform to a higher standard than that of relegation candidates. Too many flatter to deceive... Somebody drew up a stat the other day that we haven't lost a game in a long time when we go in front, but seem to lose almost every game that we go behind in. That alone says to me that although we have players who are perhaps technically superior to others in this league, they aren't up for the fight--mentally or physically--and do not give themselves the platform upon which show their ability.

It was a favourite cliche of Cooper, and he was right: 'You've got to earn the right to play football'. Earn the right we do not.

Definite keeps for me would be; Branco, Thompson, Doughty (if possible... but seemingly not?) and of course Vigs. There is a case for Kasim and Obika, but as it stands they clearly don't give us value for money.

I'd also keep ahold of most of the youngsters; Smith, Young, Henry etc. Goddard should probably stay too. Other than that, I don't think there's anyone else who we should be desperate to cling onto.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Thursday, December 22, 2016, 09:11:10
Obika and Kasim on their day as we know are as good as any in this league but the issue is now we are not getting value for money. You can guarantee these 2 are our 2 highest earners which with our budget you can't afford to just let them sit on the sidelines doing fuck all.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, December 22, 2016, 10:35:47
agree, but I'd still be reluctant to get rid without quality replacements.

  I think we'll get enough games out of them to win more points in the limited games they play than we would chucking in a couple of 18 year old premier league rejects that play more games but take time to adjust. just an opinion like, impossible to prove.

long term, no arguments. you can't build teams around crocked players.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, December 22, 2016, 13:07:49
They can if a standard loan...

Power was talking about specifically with Doughty that it would cost QPR to recall him - lets hope that is the case, although I expect if he does get recalled for QPR to give us more players loan or permanent.

Let's have a look around Brighton, Spurs, Villa, QPR and see who they have we may potentially sign

I expect probably 2 strikers, 1 CB, 1FB, 1 CM, 1 wide midfielder but I suspect it may be dependent on clearing a few out, I think some would do well at other teams or in a better team, just not in a struggling team


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Ginginho on Monday, January 2, 2017, 19:12:20
Doughty and Furlong recalled by QPR tonight.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Parkin09 on Tuesday, January 10, 2017, 16:21:06
I don't understand how there are people saying this is the worst squad we've ever had? Yes, there are a lot of piss poor players but it's almost as if people have only been watching since the PDC days  :hmmm:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, January 10, 2017, 16:28:58
I don't understand how there are people saying this is the worst squad we've ever had? Yes, there are a lot of piss poor players but it's almost as if people have only been watching since the PDC days  :hmmm:

It's quite simple really...they look at past squads and make comparisons. Of course it is a bit subjective, insofar as we may look back on a squad that included Delf, Norris, Anton Rodgers, BOO, Brad Barry etc in years to come and think wow, such talent with the benefit of hindsight....but our last relegation side widely regarded as in the top 3 or 4 poorest sides ever, could still boast, Ritchie, Caddis, Douglas with a young Flint kicking around somewhere.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Parkin09 on Tuesday, January 10, 2017, 16:55:44
It's quite simple really...they look at past squads and make comparisons. Of course it is a bit subjective, insofar as we may look back on a squad that included Delf, Norris, Anton Rodgers, BOO, Brad Barry etc in years to come and think wow, such talent with the benefit of hindsight....but our last relegation side widely regarded as in the top 3 or 4 poorest sides ever, could still boast, Ritchie, Caddis, Douglas with a young Flint kicking around somewhere.

Those players were all very young at the time (Bar Douglas) which is why I find it difficult to write this team off as they are mostly so young, the names you mentioned there (Ritchie & .....FFS Flint) are 2 of the best players (bar Charlie & Simon) we've had in the last 10 years but at that time they weren't doing the business.

I can think of so many times in the late 90's early 2000's where I watched the team and there was not one chink of light on the pitch in terms of talent. I think some of the players we've got now will become decent players at this level.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, January 10, 2017, 18:12:55
Those players were all very young at the time (Bar Douglas) which is why I find it difficult to write this team off as they are mostly so young, the names you mentioned there (Ritchie & .....FFS Flint) are 2 of the best players (bar Charlie & Simon) we've had in the last 10 years but at that time they weren't doing the business.

I can think of so many times in the late 90's early 2000's where I watched the team and there was not one chink of light on the pitch in terms of talent. I think some of the players we've got now will become decent players at this level.

Fair enough, everyone's entitled to their opinion and mine is most of our lot will be lucky to pick up a Conference club when they leave us. Obika, Kasim and Nathan may get a Div 3 or 4 club in the summer.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, January 10, 2017, 18:21:25
Their stock has certainly fallen this season. Like to keep Nathan, mind.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: kirky69 on Tuesday, January 10, 2017, 20:56:25
Fair enough, everyone's entitled to their opinion and mine is most of our lot will be lucky to pick up a Conference club when they leave us. Obika, Kasim and Nathan may get a Div 3 or 4 club in the summer.
Come on Reg they are all potential Championship players, well certainly Nathan anyway.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, January 10, 2017, 21:14:20
Come on Reg they are all potential Championship players, well certainly Nathan anyway.

What you mean like our recent potent goalscorers in Div 3..... Nicky Ajose 35 goals in Div 3, still in Div 3; Michael Smith 26 in 71, in Div 4; Andy Williams 34 in 105, in Div 4.

Of our Power time players sold, only Luongo is anything like a semi regular in the Championship.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Power to people on Wednesday, January 11, 2017, 12:36:46
Look at some of the players that played under McMahon we had some crap players then


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Parkin09 on Wednesday, January 11, 2017, 14:44:32
Some truly truly awful players during that time, Kingy also signed some absolute stinkers.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Power to people on Wednesday, January 11, 2017, 16:16:11
Or even some of the dross under Jimmy Quinn


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: theakston2k on Wednesday, January 11, 2017, 16:19:36
Kingy also signed some absolute stinkers.
Especially during his final season where he combined with Iffy signed the likes of Trevor Benjamin, Chris Mcphee and Albert Jarrett to name but a few.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Parkin09 on Wednesday, January 11, 2017, 16:25:43
Albert Jarrett, Jesus Christ.

At least the squad we have now has the chance to improve, the majority of the duffers in these squads were all 28/29+


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, January 11, 2017, 16:33:37
I'd stake my left bollock on kingy spotting a better division 3 player over our current management.

mind you, his biggest mistake was Thorpe and Cureton. good on paper, shit on the pitch.. though Cureton was better at scoring  than what we have now (controversial)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, January 11, 2017, 16:35:56
 We've always had shit players since I've been going...who remembers Ken (Rigor Mortis) Keyworth, or Nine Past Haffey?

 The main difference to now being that in amongst the dross were usually a few gems.....our few who resemble proper footballers namely Nathan, Kasim and Obika have barely featured this season on any regular basis, and not been too great when they have.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, January 11, 2017, 16:54:56
though Cureton was better at scoring  than what we have now (controversial)
Not away at Yeovil he certainly wasn't ;)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Parkin09 on Wednesday, January 11, 2017, 16:58:13
I'd stake my left bollock on kingy spotting a better division 3 player over our current management.

mind you, his biggest mistake was Thorpe and Cureton. good on paper, shit on the pitch.. though Cureton was better at scoring  than what we have now (controversial)

Got Thorpe on my shirt that year  :cry: :cry:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, January 11, 2017, 16:58:56
We've always had shit players since I've been going...who remembers Ken (Rigor Mortis) Keyworth, or Nine Past Haffey?
I had heard of Haffey but not that much other than he was keeper for Scotland in the great Wembley 9-3 hiding of 1961 but he seemed to lead an interesting life....

Quote
Francis Haffey (b. Glasgow, 28 November 1938) was a football goalkeeper for Glasgow's Celtic F.C. and for the Scottish national team.

Haffey, remembered as one of Celtic's great and more eccentric keepers, played more than two hundred matches for his club.

Haffey is most often associated with Scotland's 9-3 loss to England at Wembley in 1961 - giving birth to the gag: 'What's the time? Nearly ten past Haffey' or 'Haffey past nine'. It would be Haffey's final match for Scotland.

After breaking an ankle in the Glasgow Cup against Partick Thistle in November 1963, effectively ending his Celtic career, he left the following October to play for Swindon Town. Soon thereafter, Haffey moved to Australia, where after a shorter career as a footballer there he found his way into the entertainment business as a cabaret singer.

Haffey made 201 appearances for Celtic. He had 61 clean-sheets. He won two caps for Scotland.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, January 11, 2017, 17:22:38
Not away at Yeovil he certainly wasn't ;)

but not any worse either :)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Ginginho on Thursday, January 12, 2017, 22:06:08
Bit of info from Sam Parkin on our three new loanees. He's probably seen a reasonable amount of them as he's a pundit on Chelsea TV.

Complimentary about Colkett and Dabo, diplomatic about Feruz.

http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/sam-parkin-provides-the-lowdown-on-towns-three-new-recruits-3516064.aspx


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Tails on Thursday, January 12, 2017, 22:17:48
I know a Hibs fan who said Feruz is utter dog shit. I will wait and see


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Costanza on Friday, January 13, 2017, 07:55:14
I know a Hibs fan who said Feruz is utter dog shit. I will wait and see

You won't get many compliments from any of his loan clubs. His career is currently filed under 'too much too young'.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, January 13, 2017, 08:23:21
I know a Hibs fan who said Feruz is utter dog shit. I will wait and see

I wouldn't trust a hobo as far as I could throw him.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Tails on Friday, January 13, 2017, 08:28:16
I wouldn't trust a hobo as far as I could throw him.

I was waiting for this!

Tbf he ranks James Collins as the worst striker he's ever seen and Collins did ok for us.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, January 13, 2017, 08:36:14
I was waiting for this!

Tbf he ranks James Collins as the worst striker he's ever seen and Collins did ok for us.

I was only half joking! It's the age old discussion that some players 'fit' at a club and some just don't. (Parkin at Northampton)

To be fair Coventry fans told us Thomas was mostly useless and he hasn't really disappointed those words has he!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Batch on Friday, January 13, 2017, 09:24:02
To be fair Coventry fans told us Thomas was mostly useless and he hasn't really disappointed those words has he!

And the Gills said Norris was hard working and OK, while other said he couldn't hit a cows arse with a banjo.

Fans are normally fairly accurate with their assessment of what they were like playing for their team. Its like said though, that was then...this is now ...
====
Have to say if, **IF** this is everyone I'm very disappointed in our transfer activity. Now, that is detached from whether it works out or not in that I accept 'you never know, might be brilliant'


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, January 13, 2017, 12:15:56
Islam Firoz has been on loan five times - and had them terminated early 5 times - although I did like his quote from his time at Blackpool.

'They take more kick offs than corners'. If he somehow clicks here he could be an inspired loan.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, January 13, 2017, 12:18:31
Islam Firoz has been on loan five times - and had them terminated early 5 times - although I did like his quote from his time at Blackpool.

'They take more kick offs than corners'. If he somehow clicks here he could be an inspired loan.

I suspect Firuz is the extra in a 3 for the price of 2 deal....


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, January 13, 2017, 12:20:52
Mini Nile


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, January 13, 2017, 12:23:36
His comments in a recent article indicate he knows he needs to get his head down and fix his attitude. Let's hope he does.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, January 13, 2017, 12:28:29
Tbf to him, he's been loaned out to some fairly far flung outposts - Greece, Khazikstan even Scotland poor kid.

Difficult for a young 'un. Hopefully with a couple of chums with him , he can feel a bit more settled.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, January 13, 2017, 12:31:15
I suspect Firuz is the extra in a 3 for the price of 2 deal....

He does have pain in the arse written all over his history to date, perhaps being nearer London may help as homesickness seems an often raised excuse for his terminations or it could just cause even more hassle?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Batch on Friday, January 13, 2017, 13:02:50
Any indication if Firuz was actually any good in addition to being a twat?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Batch on Friday, January 13, 2017, 13:03:03
I know a Hibs fan who said Feruz is utter dog shit. I will wait and see

nevermind


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Friday, January 13, 2017, 13:10:53
Especially during his final season where he combined with Iffy signed the likes of Trevor Benjamin, Chris Mcphee and Albert Jarrett to name but a few.

Pretty sure Trevor Benjamin was post Kingy and Iffy's doing. Or Big Rons doing if rumours are to be believed.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, January 13, 2017, 13:20:42
Any indication if Firuz was actually any good in addition to being a twat?

I have interpreted it as being good at Celtic until head turned by Agent but never really stayed anywhere long enough subsequently for a decision to be reached?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, January 13, 2017, 14:06:59
Pretty sure Trevor Benjamin was post Kingy and Iffy's doing. Or Big Rons doing if rumours are to be believed.
That's why I said him combined with Iffy that season!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Batch on Friday, January 13, 2017, 14:18:26
Quote from: horlock07
Quote
Any indication if Firuz was actually any good in addition to being a twat?
I have interpreted it as being good at Celtic until head turned by Agent but never really stayed anywhere long enough subsequently for a decision to be reached?


no a total write off then.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: JoeMezz on Friday, January 13, 2017, 14:35:00
This is where if Williams is the really good, nurturing coach that people say Feruz will thrive. Let's hope he has sorted his attitude out.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, January 13, 2017, 14:44:51
Well, whatever, 500 hardy souls are making the trip tomorrow. Hope they get something a whole lot better to watch than the crap served up lately.

At least the midfield looks capable of creating.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: JoeMezz on Friday, January 13, 2017, 14:49:03
Well, whatever, 500 hardy souls are making the trip tomorrow. Hope they get something a whole lot better to watch than the crap served up lately.

At least the midfield looks capable of creating.

Night out in Manchester for me after. Might as well make the journey worthwhile


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: stfcjack on Friday, January 13, 2017, 15:17:58
Night out in Manchester for me after. Might as well make the journey worthwhile

Same for me, got quite a big group going up so hopefully the drinking may make up for the lack of good football on show  :pint:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: swindonmaniac on Friday, January 13, 2017, 15:33:34
Same for me, got quite a big group going up so hopefully the drinking may make up for the lack of good football on show  :pint:
You saying Bolton don't play good football ?.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, January 13, 2017, 15:44:38
Nearest game of the year for me and I am not going.... I am a crap fan!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Friday, January 13, 2017, 16:52:35
Nearest game of the year for me and I am not going.... I am a crap fan!

 :nod:


Title: Re: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: FormerlyPlymRed on Friday, January 13, 2017, 18:16:44
Night out in Manchester for me after. Might as well make the journey worthwhile
That's why I'm making the journey up!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: suttonred on Friday, January 13, 2017, 18:30:41
A couple of interviews with the new chaps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihwnVyo6ybo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym1zqS_IdTI


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Amir on Friday, January 13, 2017, 18:55:53
Pretty sure Trevor Benjamin was post Kingy and Iffy's doing. Or Big Rons doing if rumours are to be believed.

It was on the show. Ron told him about Lloyd Dyer and maybe one other West Brom player, then mentioned Trev. Iffy said he liked Trev as a player but clearly didn't want to accept Ron's help.

He then went and signed him.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: tans on Friday, January 13, 2017, 19:02:00
Stefan moore i think


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Batch on Friday, January 13, 2017, 19:08:13
jeeez, forgot all about Big Ron's "I'm not racist, look at me work with a wog" almost program.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: aroundthefur on Saturday, January 21, 2017, 11:03:17
Delfouneso has signed for Blackpool.


Title: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Batch on Saturday, January 21, 2017, 11:04:08
as said, it's permanent too:

Swindon Town striker Nathan Delfouneso has left the club this morning to join League Two side Blackpool on a permanent deal #stfc


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, January 21, 2017, 11:11:04
Good luck to the Fonz, he just wasn't quite good enough for us, he would have been on fairly good wages too so that frees up wages for another signing.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Saturday, January 21, 2017, 11:13:29
Technically a very good player with the ball at his feet, just lacks the positional sense of a goal scorer. 


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Batch on Saturday, January 21, 2017, 11:21:49
plus, making loads of runs while our midfield played crab football didn't help


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, January 21, 2017, 11:24:00
Drifted out of the side, no surprise.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: tans on Sunday, January 22, 2017, 08:55:37
Be interesting to hear if any discussions have started with any out of contract players yet


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: ronnie21 on Sunday, January 22, 2017, 08:57:52
Fonz not too happy with the "manager" - saying nice to go to a club where he will be appreciated.  I'd just appreciate a striker who knows where the back of the net is!!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Batch on Sunday, January 22, 2017, 09:35:06
what did they expect? it's not like his 1:10 goal ratio wasn't a warning before he arrived


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: ronnie21 on Sunday, January 22, 2017, 10:48:22
what did they expect? it's not like his 1:10 goal ratio wasn't a warning before he arrived
Which is what a lot of us were saying/thinking when Norris and the Fonz arrived!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Batch on Sunday, January 22, 2017, 11:46:26
sorry, that's what I meant, the fans saw it so  why did Williams think he was the answer in the first place.

mind you, I think that bellend was making noises about obika stepping up when ajose left. now I rate a fit obika, but 20 goals a season man he isn't.

I think fonz would be an OK winger tbh, but we don't have a use for those. super coach doesn't do those.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Power to people on Monday, January 23, 2017, 14:07:37
Nice that it only took rumors to start surfacing Saturday that he had gone when he was named in the Blackpool squad - I suppose 1 out of the door, need a few more to follow him


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, January 23, 2017, 14:24:52
Nice that it only took rumors to start surfacing Saturday that he had gone when he was named in the Blackpool squad

You mean asides from the fact it was announced officially several hours before any squad details were released? 


Title: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Batch on Monday, January 23, 2017, 14:38:12
yeah, announced on Twitter by os  at 11:01


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Posh Red on Monday, January 23, 2017, 15:02:19
You mean asides from the fact it was announced officially several hours before any squad details were released? 

To be fair I didn't find out until I reached the ground on Saturday, I was already travelling by the time it hit twitter, so it may have been the same for others (albeit they were on the way to the pub rather than the ground)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: garethgillman on Monday, January 23, 2017, 15:14:07
To be fair I didn't find out until I reached the ground on Saturday, I was already travelling by the time it hit twitter, so it may have been the same for others (albeit they were on the way to the pub rather than the ground)

I wasn't surprised to see him go as he was playing with the kids on Thursday(?) and he hasn't got on the pitch in a couple of games (although been a sub). I would say he was one of those players that Power hoped he would find his feet here and bang a few goals in but just not worked out for him here.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, January 24, 2017, 12:28:45
You mean asides from the fact it was announced officially several hours before any squad details were released? 

Ok, a couple of hours before, but it still stands, the deal would have been done days before with him having to sign and be registered by Friday lunchtime to play on the Sat.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: 1989Monkey on Tuesday, January 31, 2017, 18:35:29
So with the 7 loans now in the squad
Jones
Gladwin
Colkett
Dabo
Feruz
Ince
Ajose   

which 2 miss out on the squad altogether? Feruz is of course the obvious one but who else? Jones has begun to create a good partnership with Branco so I can only hope we somehow sign him on a perm but seeing as he signed a 5yr contract before joining it appears unlikely


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, January 31, 2017, 18:43:42
Well you have to assume now that the Chelsea lads are not on a must play deal or it'd be insane to get in two more loans. In which case Colkett and Feruz I suppose, but harsh on the former


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, January 31, 2017, 18:46:21
Well you have to assume now that the Chelsea lads are not on a must play deal or it'd be insane to get in two more loans. In which case Colkett and Feruz I suppose, but harsh on the former
Didn't Jones go off injured on Saturday?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Posh Red on Tuesday, January 31, 2017, 19:35:58
Feruz for AJose
Ince to play the defensive midfield role, Thompson to play in the back four instead of Jones or Dabo

The problem comes in two games time when Thompson is injured again (as seems inevitable)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, January 31, 2017, 19:51:36
surely he'll be suspended in one game :)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Posh Red on Tuesday, January 31, 2017, 20:02:57
surely he'll be suspended in one game :)

That's a fair point


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Wednesday, February 1, 2017, 00:27:14
I can picture the scenario of needing a win from the final game to stay up. Charlton........


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: REDBUCK on Wednesday, February 1, 2017, 00:32:55
No need to worry we are already down, Reg has decreed it so


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Ells on Wednesday, February 1, 2017, 03:22:50
No need to worry we are already down, Reg has decreed it so

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_zero
I think this is what Reg hopes for every year, he's bound to get a bit antsy when it's February and we're not playing in someone's back garden yet.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: kaufman on Wednesday, February 1, 2017, 07:59:27
People are assuming Thompson being club captain is certain to start. I'm not so sure anymore. His career looks to be petering out with us.
Colkett & Dabo will play.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Whits on Wednesday, February 1, 2017, 08:43:30
I can picture the scenario of needing a win from the final game to stay up. Charlton........
and not being able to play Ajose in last game, that could haunt us if he starts scoring a few...


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, February 1, 2017, 13:15:43
Can anyone be arsed to list the 13 out of contract in the summer players?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, February 1, 2017, 13:46:37
THE CURRENT SQUAD

GOALKEEPERS

1. Lawrence Vigouroux (2019)
12. Will Henry (2018)

DEFENDERS

2. Nathan Thompson (2017)
3. Brandon Ormonde-Ottewill (2017)
4. Conor Thomas (2019)
6. Jamie Sendles-White
(2017)
- (long-term injury)
11. James Brophy (2018)
21. Fankaty Dabo (2017)
25. Dion Conroy (2019)
27. Brad Barry (2017)
28. Lloyd Jones (2017)
29. Raphael Branco (2017)


MIDFIELDERS

5. Anton Rodgers (2017)
7. Ben Gladwin (2017)
8. Yaser Kasim (2017)
10. John Goddard (2019)
14. Ellis Iandolo (2017)
15. Tom Smith (2017)
16. Jordan Stewart (2017)
18. Jake Evans (2017)
21. Charlie Colkett (2017)
--. Jesse Starkey (2018)
--. Rohan Ince (2017)


FORWARDS

9. Jonathan Obika (2017)
17. Islam Feruz (2017)
24. Jermaine Hylton (2017)  
33. Luke Norris (2019)
35. Jordan Young (2019)
--. Nicky Ajose (2017)

I dare say that some of them will have options.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Wednesday, February 1, 2017, 13:57:40

I dare say that some of them will have options.

[/quote]
to play non league.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, February 1, 2017, 14:21:33
I dare say that some of them will have options.


to play non league.

Maybe they do chalkies_shorts, maybe they do.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Wednesday, February 1, 2017, 15:09:32
THE CURRENT SQUAD

GOALKEEPERS

1. Lawrence Vigouroux (2019)
12. Will Henry (2018)

DEFENDERS

2. Nathan Thompson (2017)
3. Brandon Ormonde-Ottewill (2017)
4. Conor Thomas (2019)
6. Jamie Sendles-White
(2017)
- (long-term injury)
11. James Brophy (2018)
21. Fankaty Dabo (2017)
25. Dion Conroy (2019)
27. Brad Barry (2017)
28. Lloyd Jones (2017)
29. Raphael Branco (2017)


MIDFIELDERS

5. Anton Rodgers (2017)
7. Ben Gladwin (2017)
8. Yaser Kasim (2017)
10. John Goddard (2019)
14. Ellis Iandolo (2017)
15. Tom Smith (2017)
16. Jordan Stewart (2017)
18. Jake Evans (2017)
21. Charlie Colkett (2017)
--. Jesse Starkey (2018)
--. Rohan Ince (2017)


FORWARDS

9. Jonathan Obika (2017)
17. Islam Feruz (2017)
24. Jermaine Hylton (2017)  
33. Luke Norris (2019)
35. Jordan Young (2019)
--. Nicky Ajose (2017)

I dare say that some of them will have options.

The Adver said yesterday that Murray, Barry & Iandolo were the three with options. Obv Murray has since departed!! This is the Adver though. I was pretty sure Stewart had one aswell!!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: garethgillman on Wednesday, February 1, 2017, 15:21:46
THE CURRENT SQUAD

2. Nathan Thompson (2017) in
3. Brandon Ormonde-Ottewill (2017) out
6. Jamie Sendles-White [/b](2017)[/b] - (long-term injury) in
27. Brad Barry (2017) out
29. Raphael Branco (2017) in

5. Anton Rodgers (2017) out
8. Yaser Kasim (2017) out
14. Ellis Iandolo (2017) in
15. Tom Smith (2017) in
16. Jordan Stewart (2017) in
18. Jake Evans (2017) in

9. Jonathan Obika (2017) out
24. Jermaine Hylton (2017)  in


My opinion on who we should keep / let go of those out of contract


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, February 1, 2017, 15:28:45
My opinion on who we should keep / let go of those out of contract
Reading that list is like the chorus of the hokey cokey ;)

Waiting for you to shake it all about now....


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Wednesday, February 1, 2017, 15:36:29
Reading that list is like the chorus of the hokey cokey ;)

Waiting for you to shake it all about now....

Get a room, you two.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, February 1, 2017, 15:38:02
All the out of contract players will go in the summer + all the loan players. Vigs will probably be flogged, so not much left. This is OK if it enables a squad to be built more suited to Div 4 which the present squad certainly isn't.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Super Hans on Wednesday, February 1, 2017, 16:12:41
Did we really give Conor Thomas a three year deal  :girlgiggle:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: tans on Wednesday, February 1, 2017, 17:06:21
Did we really give Conor Thomas a three year deal  :girlgiggle:

Unfortunately yes


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, February 2, 2017, 12:29:36
I'd keep Brad Barry as well I think in a decent team he will come good


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, February 2, 2017, 13:10:49
I remember some people were concerned at the number of squad players out of contract at season's end.

Now, I would imagine most see this as a significant bonus after the toss dished out on the pitch thus far.

Cleaning out those stables, the name of which I forget.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Private Fraser on Thursday, February 2, 2017, 13:34:39
Augean (Stables)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, February 2, 2017, 13:45:45
Augean (Stables)
That's the fella!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: pauld on Thursday, February 2, 2017, 14:24:53
The point of the Augean Stables was that they were famously impossible to clean out until Hercules took them on. So perhaps not. Sherwood is no Hercules.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, February 2, 2017, 14:36:16
But Hercules was the name of Steptoe & Son's carthorse. Got to be a connection somewhere.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, February 2, 2017, 15:47:22
 I remember when Hercules won 2-0 in the Nou Camp. 2010, newly promoted and their first away game back in La Liga. Still went down mind and seemingly disappeared since into Segunda B.  To give them their full name Hercules de Alicante.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: leftside on Thursday, February 2, 2017, 20:01:10
Oooh, time for the rename the club to 'Spartans' debate?

Maybe something more in line with the Hercules name, say 'Ajax of Swindon'. We'd clean up the league in no time.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: aroundthefur on Sunday, February 5, 2017, 18:57:15
Please, please, please do not offer Kasim another contract.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: tans on Saturday, February 18, 2017, 21:33:35
Tom Smith played for Waterford yesterday


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, February 18, 2017, 22:52:04
I bet Waterford piss that league


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Power to people on Monday, February 20, 2017, 13:11:43
Tom Smith played for Waterford yesterday

Has their season started yet ?

He should be here either on the bench or starting


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Batch on Monday, February 20, 2017, 14:14:19
Has their season started yet ?

He should be here either on the bench or starting

Starts Friday.

Any yes he should be.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, March 9, 2017, 16:04:04
Swindon Town FC‏Verified account @Official_STFC  4m4 minutes ago
More
 NEWS 🗞️ | Town are delighted to offer pro contracts to @TommyOuldridge, @Scotttwine10 and @jordan_simmo98


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, March 9, 2017, 16:04:32
Scott Twine, Jordan Simpson and Tommy Ouldridge have been offered pro deals.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, March 9, 2017, 16:05:22
Scott Twine, Jordan Simpson and Tommy Ouldridge have been offered pro deals.

Too slow. LOSER!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, March 9, 2017, 16:12:14
Too slow. LOSER!

Guilty.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: tans on Thursday, March 9, 2017, 16:49:14
Scott Twine, Jordan Simpson and Tommy Ouldridge have been offered pro deals.

All ready to be loaned out to Waterford for the duration of their contracts no doubt


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, March 9, 2017, 16:56:59
All ready to be loaned out to Waterford for the duration of their contracts no doubt

Probably better than ending up at Supermarine or Chippenham, or maybe not.  I guess Smith and Evans will provide the feed back  :pint:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, March 9, 2017, 17:01:26
Sorry if this question has been asked a million times, but is Jordan Simpson related to Fitzroy?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, March 9, 2017, 17:03:51
Sorry if this question has been asked a million times, but is Jordan Simpson related to Fitzroy?

Yes, he's a son of Fitz.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Thursday, March 9, 2017, 19:05:11
Scott Twine, Jordan Simpson and Tommy Ouldridge have been offered pro deals.

No defenders there then.  :hmmm:
#stickingtothemodel

Would have liked to see Frimpong given a go.
We take a punt on other team's castoffs why not try and persevere with one or two more of our own.



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Friday, March 10, 2017, 15:02:06
Any updates on Ajoses' injury?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Batch on Friday, March 10, 2017, 15:04:15
Any updates on Ajoses' injury?

 BBC Wiltshire Sport‏ @BBCWiltsSport

Nicky Ajose, Charlie Colkett, Ben Gladwin and Fankaty Dabo all trained today for #STFC and are in contention to play at Port Vale.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, March 10, 2017, 15:09:45
BBC Wiltshire Sport‏ @BBCWiltsSport

Nicky Ajose, Charlie Colkett, Ben Gladwin and Fankaty Dabo all trained today for #STFC and are in contention to play at Port Vale.

This pleases me :)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Friday, March 10, 2017, 15:29:44
Scott Twine, Jordan Simpson and Tommy Ouldridge have been offered pro deals.
Any regular youth team watchers on here who know what type of players these lads are?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, March 10, 2017, 15:33:01
This pleases me :)

It's when they train that they get injured.....


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, March 10, 2017, 15:34:48
It's when they train that they get injured.....
True that. Still better to be back in training with us than at their parent clubs like last week.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, March 10, 2017, 15:39:10
True that. Still better to be back in training with us than at their parent clubs like last week.

 :hmmm:  remember when Dabo, Colkett, Gladders all played at Bolton, with next to no coaching by Luke and Embers... we won 2-1, it was only after a week of coaching that they turned to shit.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, March 10, 2017, 16:04:28
:hmmm:  remember when Dabo, Colkett, Gladders all played at Bolton, with next to no coaching by Luke and Embers... we won 2-1, it was only after a week of coaching that they turned to shit.
So what you are saying in essence is that you would rather Ajose and Colkett were still back at their clubs recieving treatment for injuries as they were last week?  ???

My point being that I was pleased they were back in training and being close to available for us again.

Sometimes Reg I do genuinely feel you really want us to be relegated.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Tails on Friday, March 10, 2017, 16:12:22
Then he can say I told you so after 5 years of being wrong


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, March 10, 2017, 16:58:17
So what you are saying in essence is that you would rather Ajose and Colkett were still back at their clubs recieving treatment for injuries as they were last week?  ???

My point being that I was pleased they were back in training and being close to available for us again.

Sometimes Reg I do genuinely feel you really want us to be relegated.

Fair enough. You may think injuries are misfortune, but I detect a recurring theme, namely that playing the same side 2 weeks in a row is rare, and 3 like dragon's eggs. Obviously sometimes lads get injured in matches, but more often they finish the game seemingly OK to get lame in the week.

I'd rather like to see us in a European competition..... travelling would be fun, but failing that, I'll settle for being true to our roots as a steady Div 3 outfit, who has the odd cup run...but accept in our present state that might be too lofty an ambition.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, March 10, 2017, 21:34:33
https://mobile.twitter.com/OptaJoe/status/840142119738081284


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Talk Talk on Friday, March 10, 2017, 23:46:33
Sometimes Reg I do genuinely feel you really want us to be relegated.

Reg wrings his hands so much that he still has one of these from his youth to assist the process

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-rlbf0YGUydE/Trq3AhFckQI/AAAAAAAAAxs/hPbonErZcRM/s1600/025+-+Copy.JPG)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 01:48:41
 Ooh a mangle. Monday was washing day, as a little un it was quite exciting to challenge yourself to turn the crank. Mother knew best though and took on the responsibility.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP008_rLBuI


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: swindonmaniac on Saturday, March 11, 2017, 09:58:12
Ooh a mangle. Monday was washing day, as a little un it was quite exciting to challenge yourself to turn the crank. Mother knew best though and took on the responsibility.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP008_rLBuI
Prefer Lily the Pink myself. :rule:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, April 23, 2017, 10:50:29
Here we go again.....

Under Contract

Lawrence Vigouroux (2019)
Will Henry (2018)
James Brophy (2018)
Dion Conroy (2019)
John Goddard (2019)
Tom Ouldridge (2018)
Jordan Simpson (2018)
Jesse Starkey (2018)
Conor Thomas (2019)
Luke Norris (2019)
Scott Twine (2018)
Jordan Young (2019)

Out of Contract*

Brad Barry
Jake Evans
Jermaine Hylton
Ellis Iandolo
Brandon Ormonde-Ottewill
Yaser Kasim
Jon Obika
Anton Rodgers
Raphael Rossi-Branco
Jamie Sendles-White
Tom Smith
Jordan Stewart
Nathan Thompson

Loan Returns

Nicky Ajose
Charlie Colkett
Fankaty Dabo
Islam Feruz
Ben Gladwin
Rohan Ince
Lloyd Jones

* Not sure who Swindon have options on.



There may be some errors.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: DiV on Sunday, April 23, 2017, 11:03:13
I'd offer Thompson a contract and tell the rest to do one.
Perhaps offer JSW something short term.

Vigs, Henry and Conroy worth keeping from those under contract. Get rid of as many of the rest as possible


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Nemo on Sunday, April 23, 2017, 11:04:22
Tom Smith could be useful in L2, where's our Waterford correspondent gone to give us an update?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: DiV on Sunday, April 23, 2017, 11:06:08
Yeah, heard positive things about Tom Smith - he'd be worth a contract too


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Sunday, April 23, 2017, 11:17:42
Branco, JSW & Iandolo are the ones from the out of contract list that I feel are most likely to be here next season. I'd like to keep hold of Thompson, Obika & Tom Smith aswell but think these 3 are unlikely to stay. An interested Kasim would also be a no brainer but his heart hasn't been in it for a good 2 seasons now. Hopefully Barry, BOO & Anton are released & we can find a buyer for Connor Thomas  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: On a side note what has happened to Jordan Young?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, April 23, 2017, 11:18:22
The only tiny positive from this shambles is that we should start next season without the usual untried CB pairing - if Branco stays, of course. Him and Conroy would be decent in L2. Goddard should be more at home down a league, too - maybe even Norris.

I do hope that when Vigs is sold we don't rely on Henry as No. 1 - he's not ready yet.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: herthab on Sunday, April 23, 2017, 11:19:28
I think it depends on our style of play next season and who's in charge. You quite often see a player improve markedly under a different gaffer. (This obviously doesn't apply to Thomas, who should be fucked off now).  I'd like to have seen a little more of Stewart, think there's something there...


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Batch on Sunday, April 23, 2017, 11:20:29
It's just not happened for him has it.. Is he still injured?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Sunday, April 23, 2017, 11:20:43
Branco, JSW & Iandolo are the ones from the out of contract list that I feel are most likely to be here next season. I'd like to keep hold of Thompson, Obika & Tom Smith aswell but think these 3 are unlikely to stay. An interested Kasim would also be a no brainer but his heart hasn't been in it for a good 2 seasons now. Hopefully Barry, BOO & Anton are released & we can find a buyer for Connor Thomas  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: On a side note what has happened to Jordan Young?

It's certain that the likes of BOO etc will not be able to find another league club, and as such Power may be able to pick them up on a reduced contract... sort of thing that will appeal to him.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: sonicyouth on Sunday, April 23, 2017, 11:23:50
Stewart probably needs to go back to NI for the good of his career/life.

Of those out of contract, I'd like to see us keep:

Ellis Iandolo - still got plenty of potential
Jon Obika - obvious
Raphael Rossi-Branco - worth keeping as a reasonable backup option
Jamie Sendles-White - he and Conroy would be a good pairing with Branco as backup
Tom Smith - cos he's, like, the saviour and we would have stayed up if he'd not gone to Waterford
Nathan Thompson - mixed about this, I think perhaps his time here should come to an end


Title: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Batch on Sunday, April 23, 2017, 11:33:17
imo Thompson needs to move on for his own good. his career will never make him a millionaire, but he deserves better than this.

Tom Smith was next the saviour. He does however have fire in his belly and a bit of desire. he'd be a much better option off the bench than serial failures like Rodgers and Kasim. Don't even get me started on Thomas, who send to think every match is a mannequin challenge.
---
I'd keep Smith, branco, iandolo

maybe stewart and jsw if fit.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Berniman on Sunday, April 23, 2017, 13:31:35
I think that Norris could be exactly what we need for L2, with his work rate and size could turn into a real asset for us next year down there..  He is the one current player, alongside Branco, who I think will be in their element in L2


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Berniman on Sunday, April 23, 2017, 13:36:59
We are 8/1 favourites for League 2 next season, obviously the bookies haven't been watching what has been going on at the club..


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: DiV on Sunday, April 23, 2017, 13:59:42
What are the odds of us leaving the division the other way?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Batch on Sunday, April 23, 2017, 14:29:16
Quote from: Berniman
I think that Norris could be exactly what we need for L2, with his work rate and size could turn into a real asset for us next year down there..  He is the one current player, alongside Branco, who I think will be in their element in L2

but we need a goal scorer along side him.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Posh Red on Sunday, April 23, 2017, 15:23:27
What are the odds of us leaving the division the other way?

I'd imagine they would be quite good now, if you are going to do it now would be the best time.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: bilko on Monday, April 24, 2017, 12:30:47
I think Branco is off by all accounts


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Panda Paws on Monday, April 24, 2017, 12:44:42
I think Branco is off by all accounts

Hurrah


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Berniman on Monday, April 24, 2017, 12:48:08
I think Branco is off by all accounts

Where did you hear that?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Riddick on Monday, April 24, 2017, 13:10:33
Hurrah

Seconded!



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, April 24, 2017, 13:22:37
Branco off would be no major loss IMO hopefully we will go for Pierre at Wycombe again if he leaves.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: hefty toe on Monday, April 24, 2017, 16:08:42
Pierre will go to a club in L1. I think Branco will be a miss if he goes. He has formed a solid partnership with Conroy.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Panda Paws on Monday, April 24, 2017, 16:13:46
Pierre will go to a club in L1. I think Branco will be a miss if he goes. He has formed a solid partnership with Conroy.

So solid we got relegated. He's shite. Absolute garbage. He flounces around out of position, is terrible on the ball, terrible off the ball and is walking red card. He will stay because he won't get anywhere else.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, April 24, 2017, 16:21:30
Can anyone verify where this Branco news has come from?

Not that I'm too bothered. Just mildly irksome when people drop news bombs without any following explanation.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Tails on Monday, April 24, 2017, 16:33:33
So solid we got relegated. He's shite. Absolute garbage. He flounces around out of position, is terrible on the ball, terrible off the ball and is walking red card. He will stay because he won't get anywhere else.

I'm not his biggest fan but the last few games with Conroy I'd agree he has done really well.

Type of player we'd probably need in L2 as well...


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, April 24, 2017, 16:39:18
Type of player we'd probably need in L2 as well...

Exactly. With a cut to the budget of a £ mill, I'm not sure what sort of player people think we might get.  Branco isn't great but he could do a job for us in Div 4, whereas the likes of BOO, Barry, Rodgers, Stewart, Hylton can't.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: hefty toe on Monday, April 24, 2017, 17:11:38
What does everyone think about Iandolo?  Would you trigger the extension in his contract?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Monday, April 24, 2017, 17:17:52
Branco basically said in the pre match interview on Saturday he wasn't staying - then he sort of back peddled a bit when asked directly!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, April 24, 2017, 17:33:39
What does everyone think about Iandolo?  Would you trigger the extension in his contract?

I would. Might be a bit lightweight for Div 4 but I'd give him a go.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Monday, April 24, 2017, 17:39:20
Branco is crap, I'd be happy to see him leave


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Monday, April 24, 2017, 17:43:24
I'm not his biggest fan but the last few games with Conroy I'd agree he has done really well.

Type of player we'd probably need in L2 as well...
This. If there's a change in style next season then RRB will be exactly the type of player we need in L2. If we stop trying to turn him into something that he isn't (a ball playing CB) & allow him to concentrate & develop on his strengths then he has the raw ingredients to be what we will need (a rough & ready CB who will stick his head on anything & put it into Row Z when we're in trouble). If we don't change the style though I'd be quite happy to see him go as it doesn't suit him & has hindered his development imo.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, April 24, 2017, 18:38:29
What does everyone think about Iandolo?  Would you trigger the extension in his contract?

I think he'd be worth another year...


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, April 24, 2017, 18:41:28
Branco off would be no major loss IMO hopefully we will go for Pierre at Wycombe again if he leaves.
He's been accused of headbutting a fan outside the ground who gave him some abuse.

He'd have a field day here.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: THE FLASH on Monday, April 24, 2017, 19:14:38
Exactly. With a cut to the budget of a £ mill, I'm not sure what sort of player people think we might get.  Branco isn't great but he could do a job for us in Div 4, whereas the likes of BOO, Barry, Rodgers, Stewart, Hylton can't.

Reality check required ref who we can get in.

We are shit as a squad.

The good/reasonable will be gone, sold or offski.

The dross that we can move on...Moved on.

Shit like Thomas that we are stuck with stay.

Ground zero.... Rebuild... Reduced budget frees, punts etc.

I'm hoping that we get at least a strong spine of physical players this time.

At least then we can compete....Remember that?!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, April 24, 2017, 19:43:09
Reality check required ref who we can get in.

We are shit as a squad.

The good/reasonable will be gone, sold or offski.

The dross that we can move on...Moved on.

Shit like Thomas that we are stuck with stay.

Ground zero.... Rebuild... Reduced budget frees, punts etc.

I'm hoping that we get at least a strong spine of physical players this time.

At least then we can compete....Remember that?!

The last time we competed was in the couple of early Power seasons, when there were still a few PDC era players kicking around.

So for example J Mac at LB...along with Darren Ward, provided a bit of nous.

The following season Andy Williams provided 20 goals... we still had Wes and the Thompsons. Gradually Power moved these out in order to further reduce the wage bill.

Realistically, I don't see any prospect of a change in policy. It will be more of the same. Have a look at the end of season Prem reject trials and hope to pick up a BOO.

Look at the out of contract lists of FL clubs and hope to pick up someone who has had early promise like a Murray or Thomas, but lost their way.

Pick up a few lads from non league, who Luke might be able to polish.  Then late on there'll be 2 or 3 kids on season long loans.

The only question is.... will this be enough to keep us in Div 4  :hmmm:



Title: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 1, 2017, 18:48:28
Smith and Evans recalled early?? thought they were there until June?

Smith:
Want to thank the players, staff and most of the the fans. Been class every single game! Want to wish the blues all the best for the season.

Evans:
Gutted to be out the cup against Dundalk today, really enjoyed my time @WaterfordFCie  would like to wish the club all the best #blues⚽️🔵


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, May 1, 2017, 18:52:20
I'd be very surprised if Jake Evans was kept on as he struggled to get in to Waterford's team (unless he was injured?) but Tom Smith might be worth another year.

OR LEE POWER IS SELLING UP AND IS CUTTING ALL LINKS TO STFC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: The Squad List (Current 2016-17)
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 1, 2017, 19:05:51
fingers crossed!

know nothing about Evans potential. you may be right.

Smith should have been in the squad ahead of Rodgers, kasim and Thomas. But I guess his fanny flick football ratio wasn't high enough for the golden one


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: swindonmaniac on Monday, May 1, 2017, 19:06:33
I'd be very surprised if Jake Evans was kept on as he struggled to get in to Waterford's team (unless he was injured?) but Tom Smith might be worth another year.

OR LEE POWER IS SELLING UP AND IS CUTTING ALL LINKS TO STFC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YIPPPPPEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, May 1, 2017, 19:17:22
It's clearly because they're learning their fates but, heck, I'll put some fuel on the rumour fire.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, May 2, 2017, 12:03:58
I believe Evans has spent quite a bit of time injured

There are 2 trains of thought for why they have been recalled early

a)They are both being told they are being released so may lose motivation playing for Waterford under Power

b)It has been deemed they will be squad players next season so it was decided they need a proper rest so they can get a full pre-season and if they stayed at Waterford until June they would not be ready for pre-season

I read in Twitter that Tommy Oulridge has not received a contract although the club said he would be offered a 1st year pro deal, apparently contracts usually follow quite quick.

JSW it was said a few weeks ago has been told he wont be getting a new deal and he has been doing his rehab at QPR as stfc are not interested

I hope for Thompson's sake he does not sign a new deal here, he is better than L2 and deserves to go and try his luck elsewhere for a better team probably top end of L1, same goes for Vigs he is better than L2 so we will hopefully recoup a £2-300,000 fee for him.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, May 2, 2017, 17:27:28
Iandolo's 1 year option taken up.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, May 2, 2017, 17:27:51
Town can also confirm that we will not be taking up the option of an extra year on the contracts of Jordan Stewart, Jamie Sendles-White, Brandon Ormonde-Ottewill and Brad Barry, who are all free to find new clubs.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 2, 2017, 17:31:59
it's a shame Stewart never got going


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, May 2, 2017, 17:33:36
Complete clear out same as the last time we were relegated.

Didn't PdC only have something like 5 players under contract when he became manager? (yes I know he had different circumstances regarding finances etc)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, May 2, 2017, 17:34:33
it's a shame Stewart never got going
His release has disappointed me more than any of the others, he did certainly show glimpses albeit very short cameo's, I guess hes still homesick and never really settled.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: otanswell on Tuesday, May 2, 2017, 17:43:35
Youths will replace them all ! :D


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Tuesday, May 2, 2017, 17:45:45
Youths will replace them all ! :D
Yep. Any premier club who want to dump a load of shite youths will have a willing recipient while we dump our kids


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, May 2, 2017, 17:52:49
Yep. Any premier club who want to dump a load of shite youths will have a willing recipient while we dump our kids

Which kids of ours are we dumping? Must have missed that.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, May 2, 2017, 17:53:27
THE CURRENT SQUAD

GOALKEEPERS
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/4753903c-4080-4bb8-a025-e86b5e9ef169_zpsgzkjqbij.jpg) (http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicVIGOUROL.jpg)

Will Henry
Contract: 2018
Apps/Gls: 9/0

Lawrence Vigouroux
Contract: 2019
Apps/Gls: 82/0

DEFENDERS
(http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicBROPHYJA.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/f5f2a1ac-223b-4c86-b0fd-f4beda1afc2e_zpsz5ka6nnl.jpg)

James Brophy
Contract: 2018
Apps/Gls: 64/1

Dion Conroy
Contract: 2019
Apps/Gls: 14/0

MIDFIELDERS
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/7fe59f4d-c90d-43be-a6b8-76156baae993_zpsilqvegza.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Ellis20Iandolo_zpsb173tndg.jpg?t=1493504069) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/aa73716f-29a9-4d99-b60e-76021e9ab2af_zpslleqiazm.jpg)
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/0ebba75e-c75b-4cc5-899a-7792ab39d184_zpswpsqmndz.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Jesse20Starkey_zps7bvdcybr.jpg?t=1493502770) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Conor20Thomas_zpssumm7t4r.jpg?t=1493502934)

John Goddard
Contract: 2019
Apps/Gls: 48/3

Ellis Iandolo
Contract: 2018
Apps/Gls: 28/1

Tommy Ouldridge
Contract: 2018
Apps/Gls: 0/0

Jordan Simpson
Contract: 2018
Apps/Gls: 0/0

Jesse Starkey
Contract: 2018
Apps/Gls: 1/0

Conor Thomas
Contract: 2019
Apps/Gls: 37/1

FORWARDS
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Luke20Norris_zpsrwewepox.jpg?t=1493503127) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/0bbe6e6c-eec2-438d-92be-c1a5fd2de4f0_zpsmqufqwnf.jpg) (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/Jordan20Young_zpsmrkxolib.jpg?t=1493503436)

Luke Norris
Contract: 2019
Apps/Gls: 46/6

Scott Twine
Contract: 2018
Apps/Gls: 1/0

Jordan Young
Contract: 2019
Apps/Gls: 6/1


OUT OF CONTRACT
Bradley Barry
Raphael Branco
Jake Evans
Jermaine Hylton
Yaser Kasim
Jonathan Obika
Brandon Ormonde-Ottewill
Anton Rodgers
Jamie Sendles-White
Tom Smith
Jordan Stewart
Nathan Thompson




LOAN RETURNS
Nicky Ajose
Charlie Colkett
Fankaty Dabo
Islam Feruz
Ben Gladwin
Rohan Ince
Lloyd Jones


NOTE: There may be some errors.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, May 2, 2017, 17:54:20
Would the names not included suggest that we're negotiating?

Kasim?
Hylton?

Strange to do this in increments. I'm not outraged or anything.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Bogus Dave on Tuesday, May 2, 2017, 17:58:12
ASD said this was a list of those we've not taken up an option of. The final cull list is yet to come


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, May 2, 2017, 17:59:11
ASD said this was a list of those we've not taken up an option of. The final cull list is yet to come

Very good, cheers.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Tuesday, May 2, 2017, 18:01:32
Which kids of ours are we dumping? Must have missed that.
I'm speculating.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: LucienSanchez on Tuesday, May 2, 2017, 18:18:14
Thank fuck Barry and BOO have been binned


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Hugh Kerrs on Tuesday, May 2, 2017, 18:24:46
Jordan Stewart had potential. He wasn't given enough game time. Played well when he was.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, May 2, 2017, 18:28:15
Jordan Stewart had potential. He wasn't given enough game time. Played well when he was.

You reckon? I wasn't at QPR but every time I saw him he looked out of his depth.

It's been a nightmare of a transfer for all parties - homesickness and injuries... plus didn't get in bother for partying?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 2, 2017, 18:32:34
I've no idea myself, for whatever reasons he didn't contribute so I wish him luck.

Boo and Barry, oh well.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, May 2, 2017, 18:45:48
I think Barry going would suggest we have, maybe, Dabo lined up. Barry is a satisfactory squad RB in L2.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, May 2, 2017, 18:49:03
You reckon? I wasn't at QPR but every time I saw him he looked out of his depth.

It's been a nightmare of a transfer for all parties - homesickness and injuries... plus didn't get in bother for partying?
Away at Millwall last season he came on for the last 15 mins and was our MoM.

Never actually started a game for Swindon though only played 10 times and all off the bench, probably never even got 90 mins in total during his whole Town career.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Tuesday, May 2, 2017, 19:19:32
Delighted that Barry has gone - a frankly appalling defender for League 1 level and we deserved to go down with him (and Boo) our first choice full back pairing at different points during the season.

Not surprised that Anton is sticking about, if nothing else he'll give us a threat at set pieces next season. Two further years is kind mind you, hopefully this is us keeping Brendan sweet in exchange for a couple of jocks on loan next season...


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: tans on Tuesday, May 2, 2017, 19:24:32
Wheres it stated Rodgers is staying then?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Tuesday, May 2, 2017, 19:24:58
Away at Millwall last season he came on for the last 15 mins and was our MoM.
The worst display I saw in 15/16 and Stewart's sole contribution was a weak shot straight at the 'keeper. That shot being our only effort on goal summed up our efforts that day and Cooper was duly sacked. If only LW met a similar fate after similarly shocking displays this season!

The only other time I recall watching Stewart was earlier in the season when he was subbed on at the CG and was booked for running over the ball when the opposition had a free kick. He didn't look like a League 1 footballer and I think it is best for all concerned that he returns to play in Ireland.

No surprise that JSW has been moved on, in our position we simply haven't got the finances to take risks on players returning from injury. Im pleased to note the myth that it was Tom Pope that crocked him is still being repeated, when actually it was Zeli Ismail!



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 2, 2017, 19:25:13
Not surprised that Anton is sticking about,

Wait, what, I missed this. I assume its a joke?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Hugh Kerrs on Tuesday, May 2, 2017, 19:26:29
Away at Millwall last season he came on for the last 15 mins and was our MoM.

Never actually started a game for Swindon though only played 10 times and all off the bench, probably never even got 90 mins in total during his whole Town career.
His performance at Millwall was impressive. He played for 20 minutes or so, but gave us our only shot on target. He should have had game time from then on, and would have grown in confidence. His antics off the pitch may be due partly to being left idle without a focus.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Exiled Bob on Tuesday, May 2, 2017, 19:26:54
Delighted that Barry has gone - a frankly appalling defender for League 1 level and we deserved to go down with him (and Boo) our first choice full back pairing at different points during the season.

Not surprised that Anton is sticking about, if nothing else he'll give us a threat at set pieces next season. Two further years is kind mind you, hopefully this is us keeping Brendan sweet in exchange for a couple of jocks on loan next season...
Where has that come from? You're obviously in the know.....


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Hugh Kerrs on Tuesday, May 2, 2017, 19:29:51
The worst display I saw in 15/16 and Stewart's sole contribution was a weak shot straight at the 'keeper. That shot being our only effort on goal summed up our efforts that day and Cooper was duly sacked. If only LW met a similar fate after similarly shocking displays this season!

The only other time I recall watching Stewart was earlier in the season when he was subbed on at the CG and was booked for running over the ball when the opposition had a free kick. He didn't look like a League 1 footballer and I think it is best for all concerned that he returns to play in Ireland.

No surprise that JSW has been moved on, in our position we simply haven't got the finances to take risks on players returning from injury. Im pleased to note the myth that it was Tom Pope that crocked him is still being repeated, when actually it was Zeli Ismail!


I thought he did well at Millwall. Admittedly he struggled against the big bruisers in the Millwall defence, but he gave us more energy and directness in attack.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: nigel grays a postie on Tuesday, May 2, 2017, 19:32:59
Shame Stewart never really able to build on a very good 30 minutes or so at QPR. Injury came at bad time for him and 10 or 20 minutes here and there never gave him real chance to settle into the team. Don't think Williams knew where to play him, and although clearly had some talent probably not the necessary fitness or height to make it as a pro. Sendles White deserves lots of sympathy too as before that injury he wasn't far away from a chance with the full N.Ireland squad.
Boo had some talent and when he had the confidence to take people on and cross first time offered a decent attacking threat from left wing back. Sadly all too often he preferred to check back or try and beat man too many times and end up losing the ball. Defensively weak and about the same inability to mark his man as Barry. Clearly mentally unsuited to knuckle down to the cause and can't see too many likely to be clamoring for his signature. Barnet maybe?
Slightly surprised Barry shown the exit door. Will finally put to bed the persistent but extremely unlikely rumour that Gareth Barry on his way as gaffer I guess. Did put in a few decent showings but equally some real shockers too.
If Rodgers gets any sort of offer that will make him the only person in the County happy to see Williams still in charge. His performance on Sunday alone should see him never again in a Town shirt.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: sonicyouth on Tuesday, May 2, 2017, 19:39:42
Shame about JSW, I thought he and Conroy could have formed a decent partnership. Hopefully we buck the trend and recruit some experience alongside Conroy.

If Barry or BOO find a league club then I'll be looking for a contract too.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Tuesday, May 2, 2017, 19:43:47
Shame about JSW, I thought he and Conroy could have formed a decent partnership. Hopefully we buck the trend and recruit some experience alongside Conroy.

If Barry or BOO find a league club then I'll be looking for a contract too.
If BOO finds any club other than a nightclub I'd be fucking staggered. A useless cunt of the highest order - possibly moreso than Thomas.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: A Gent Orange on Tuesday, May 2, 2017, 20:10:01
Barry is a satisfactory squad RB in L2.

Faint praise. Very, very faint.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, May 2, 2017, 20:12:50
Wheres it stated Rodgers is staying then?
Think he's missed the bit about this not being the final free transfer list. Let's face it, one thing Chang isn't is 'in the know'.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Abrahammer on Tuesday, May 2, 2017, 20:59:00
Chang saying he's staying is a great sign


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: herthab on Wednesday, May 3, 2017, 04:23:17
Chang saying he's staying is a great sign

Yep. He's definitely off then.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 3, 2017, 08:04:15
With the possible exceptions of Vigs (who will leave anyway but for a fee) and Conroy I shed no tears at any player being released they are all replacable which I am sure Power has lined up several already.

I think first signing will be Alex Davey from Chelsea either on a contract or season long loan.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Riddick on Wednesday, May 3, 2017, 08:09:48
Imagine the horror if/when we get news that Rodgers has been offered a new deal!!!



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: tans on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 17:03:16
Rodgers released.

Hykton, Branco, Thompson, Kasim and Obika all offered fresh terms


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 17:04:08
Rodgers released.

Hykton, Branco, Thompson, Kasim and Obika all offered fresh terms

Most of this seems like tokenism.

Did Yaser fall out with LW or something?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 17:05:20
Can't see most of those signing.

A U-turn on Branco? Or maybe erroneous reporting from the adver? Maybe the new boss having a say?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Super Hans on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 17:07:19
Rodgers released.
Today is a good day. Had a horrible feeling we'd sign him up as an 'option' now we're in League 2.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: tans on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 17:08:12
Tom Smith not even mentioned in the article?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: tans on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 17:08:30
Most of this seems like tokenism.

Did Yaser fall out with LW or something?

He said he needed a new start


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: garethgillman on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 17:08:47

Or maybe erroneous reporting from the adver?

It's from the club: http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/nathan-thompson-among-five-to-be-offered-new-deals-3720132.aspx


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 17:11:32
It's from the club: http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/nathan-thompson-among-five-to-be-offered-new-deals-3720132.aspx


I was referring to the adver article the other day that said he was not being offered a deal.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: garethgillman on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 17:15:14
I was referring to the adver article the other day that said he was not being offered a deal.

Ah right, possibly but also could be that Power / the new manager changed their mind


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Riddick on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 17:17:48
Most of this seems like tokenism.

Did Yaser fall out with LW or something?

The worry is that Hilton will sign his! Why the fuck have we offered him terms.


Title: Re: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: chrisser on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 17:17:58
Tom Smith not even mentioned in the article?
Neither is Jake Evans

Sent from my D5803


Title: Re: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: garethgillman on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 17:19:48
Neither is Jake Evans


Possible they are still discussing deals as they have said they didn't offer a contract to Rodgers so if we didn't to Smith . Evans then they would have been mentioned?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 17:22:11
The worry is that Hilton will sign his! Why the fuck have we offered him terms.

My only theory, based on absolutely nothing, is that he didn't get on with LW.

Hylton and Kasim's careers seemed to be done.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 17:25:18
Under EFL rules, Town had to make offers to any player they wished to retain for next season before Saturday or risk being fined.

Maybe why the new manager has been pencilled in for Friday - maybe he's made these decisions.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Bogus Dave on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 17:41:29
Don't we get money if we offer an out of contract player a contract but they go elsewhere? Or is that only to a certain age? Or is it just something made up by football manager, like Cherno Samba and trequartistas


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 17:43:52
I think that's just youngsters


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 17:45:44
Don't we get money if we offer an out of contract player a contract but they go elsewhere? Or is that only to a certain age? Or is it just something made up by football manager, like Cherno Samba and trequartistas
Under 24's only.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: tans on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 17:46:24
Under EFL rules, Town had to make offers to any player they wished to retain for next season before Saturday or risk being fined.

Maybe why the new manager has been pencilled in for Friday - maybe he's made these decisions.

What dickhead decided to come up with that rule? Contracts run until 31st June?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 17:48:13
What dickhead decided to come up with that rule? Contracts run until 31st June?
Must admit I thought they just had to be offered before the end of June.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 18:15:44
This gets stranger and stranger.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: theakston2k on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 19:30:34
What dickhead decided to come up with that rule? Contracts run until 31st June?
31st of June hey Tans? Was that deliberate  ;)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 21:37:02
Hylton? kasim? bloody odd


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 22:07:46
Hylton? kasim? bloody odd

Maybe the new manager thinks he can get Yasser motivated again, because when he does what he does he's a bloody good player. He needs almost constant observation though because I think here or even his next club will be his last chance.

Similarly, maybe the new manager will actually give Hylton the chance to relative incremental game time to prove he has something? Last season was a mess and LW had lost the players a long while back. Yes Hylton was a petulant shit but one, I think anyone would be pissed at not being even on the bench when you'd been doing so well in training. Two, his petulancy level is nowhere near Leon Clarke or Joey Beauchamp levels and he's still a relatively new pro (when you factor game time). He deserves a chance but like Yasser, here or at another pro club will be his last chance.


Title: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 22:13:25
I don't have a problem with Hylton's strop as such. It's his ability.

Kasim for me is a big part of why we went down, he's too fragile mentally to risk money on.

that said, I'm hardly going to be disappointed if I'm wrong!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Hugh Kerrs on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 22:16:59
I'm quite sad that Anton Rodgers has been released. He'll go on to greater things and we'll all be sorry. :(


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Super Hans on Thursday, May 18, 2017, 23:23:02
I'm quite sad that Anton Rodgers has been released. He'll go on to greater things and we'll all be sorry. :(
You're fooling nobody, Brendan.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Exiled Bob on Friday, May 19, 2017, 05:49:15
Kasim for me is a big part of why we went down, he's too fragile mentally to risk money
Hardly surprising though, considering he has family and friends living in a country torn apart by war that he is probably constantly worrying about.

That and the fact that (if it was true) we received bids from Championship and PL clubs during his bloom period and we turned them down. He must be fucking gutted to think he will be playing in L2, at best, next season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, May 19, 2017, 06:51:36
I don't have a problem with Hylton's strop as such. It's his ability.


I've said it before and I'll say it again. I think many in the squad are likely better than they appear to be. Williams even managed to make the likes of Gladwin look bad.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Sippo on Friday, May 19, 2017, 06:51:37

Kasim for me is a big part of why we went down, he's too fragile mentally to risk money on.

that said, I'm hardly going to be disappointed if I'm wrong!

A confidence issue? Think a lot of our players had confidence issues. On his game, Kasim is an asset and we all know that.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: DiV on Friday, May 19, 2017, 06:53:04
I'd have shifted all of those 5.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: pauld on Friday, May 19, 2017, 07:16:09
What dickhead decided to come up with that rule? Contracts run until 31st June?
Only if Diane Abbot drafts them...


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: tans on Friday, May 19, 2017, 07:32:20
Oops my bad :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 19, 2017, 08:24:58
Williams even managed to make the likes of Gladwin look bad.

Gladwin did that by himself through a complete lack of effort ( OK you could blame fitness, but that partly his own fault).

A confidence issue? Think a lot of our players had confidence issues. On his game, Kasim is an asset and we all know that.

Confidence is a massive part of the game, fair enough. Just think to win things you need to be able to keep going, not hide away form it all.

My guess is on a spat with Williams anyway - no evidence whatsoever.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Sippo on Friday, May 19, 2017, 08:37:07
Maybe Kasim told Williams he was shit, and he didn't like it.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, May 19, 2017, 08:39:48
I think its quite common knowledge that Obika, Hylton and Kasim didn't get on Williams.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 19, 2017, 09:00:49
I think its quite common knowledge that Obika, Hylton and Kasim didn't get on Williams.

It is now, I hadn't heard that!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: tans on Friday, May 19, 2017, 09:18:11
It is now, I hadn't heard that!

I heard that Obika and Kasim were great friends with Williams


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: pauld on Friday, May 19, 2017, 09:27:17
I think its quite common knowledge that Obika, Hylton and Kasim didn't get on Williams.
Euuuggghhh, and everyone else did? Yuk. The difference a missing "with" can make :)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: garethgillman on Friday, May 19, 2017, 09:32:39
Euuuggghhh, and everyone else did? Yuk. The difference a missing "with" can make :)

mwahahaha, explains a lot  ???


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: DiV on Friday, May 19, 2017, 09:32:49
Yeah, we all knew about Obika and Williams falling out and why.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, May 19, 2017, 09:35:55
I heard that Obika and Kasim were great friends with Williams
PS4 mates? ;)

Williams has openly criticised both in the media, staing that he had no idea where Kasim was at one point this season and that he questioned Obika commitment to the club on BBC Swindon interviews, the Hylton thing is pretty obvious as it came out in the press after the Northampton game.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Tails on Friday, May 19, 2017, 09:36:50
Do we?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, May 19, 2017, 09:37:38
Euuuggghhh, and everyone else did? Yuk. The difference a missing "with" can make :)
Fair point :D


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, May 19, 2017, 09:38:30
I remember Williams having at dig at Bazooka in the press.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, May 19, 2017, 09:39:05
That's supposed to say Obika, but what an autocorrect! I'll keep it as it is.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, May 19, 2017, 09:39:58
That's supposed to say Obika, but what an autocorrect! I'll keep it as it is.
I like it....Jon Bazooka...nice.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Bogus Dave on Friday, May 19, 2017, 10:44:57
With Barry gone, if obika goes we're looking very thin at right back


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: harrisonaw on Friday, May 19, 2017, 11:22:51
With Barry gone, if obika goes we're looking very thin at right back

 :D


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Super Hans on Friday, May 19, 2017, 11:46:40
PS4 mates? ;)

Williams has openly criticised both in the media, staing that he had no idea where Kasim was at one point this season and that he questioned Obika commitment to the club on BBC Swindon interviews, the Hylton thing is pretty obvious as it came out in the press after the Northampton game.

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/15070032.Town_coach_says_that_Obika_s_commitment_is_unquestionable/?ref=mrb&lp=10

?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Honkytonk on Friday, May 19, 2017, 11:54:48
Obika and hylton are mates, so it might explain why hylton went on loan randomly. Manager falls out with player, then Removes supporters in the dressing room etc.

I don't pretend to know if Williams and Obika did fall out, but if they did it might explain a  couple of the odd things that happened around Hylton. It might even have been a issue with hylton which then became an issue with obika as well buy obika was too important to the first team to send away. I don't know. This is all conjecture. Much like 90% of presumptions about players made by those ' in the know'.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, May 19, 2017, 12:23:45
http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/15070032.Town_coach_says_that_Obika_s_commitment_is_unquestionable/?ref=mrb&lp=10

?
That is certainly not what he said on the radio thats for sure.

He openly questioned Obikas commitment in an interview when Obika was "ahem" injured in February. Which is what lead to this denial in the Adver.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, May 19, 2017, 12:29:34
"Jon is very delicate at the moment".

His comment was something along those lines, I questioned it myself at the time. It certainly sounded like a dig.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, May 19, 2017, 12:31:24
"Jon is very delicate at the moment".

His comment was something along those lines, I questioned it myself at the time. It certainly sounded like a dig.
He did also state that he wasn't sure exactly what Jon Bazookas injury was.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Super Hans on Friday, May 19, 2017, 12:31:37
Fair enough, I rarely listen to the interviews just remembered the article from when it was published.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: THE FLASH on Saturday, May 20, 2017, 07:53:11
Rodgers gone.

I was dreading him pulling on the jersey again.

Pity we don't have American football rules....bring him on for free kicks only.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: ibelieveinmrreeves on Saturday, May 20, 2017, 08:14:28
Keep up at the back.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, June 13, 2017, 16:10:24
BBC Wiltshire Sport‏ @BBCWiltsSport  3m3 minutes ago
More
 FOOTBALL : Defender @ph_rossi - out of contract with @Official_STFC this summer - reportedly set for Boavista in Portugal #stfc


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, June 13, 2017, 16:15:07
BBC Wiltshire Sport‏ @BBCWiltsSport  3m3 minutes ago
More
 FOOTBALL : Defender @ph_rossi - out of contract with @Official_STFC this summer - reportedly set for Boavista in Portugal #stfc

Good move if true, tbf I haven't looked to see how they've been going recently, but a few years back they broke the triumvirate of Sporting, Porto, Benfica and won the League. Maybe they busted themselves doing it.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Tuesday, June 13, 2017, 17:26:35
Good move if true, tbf I haven't looked to see how they've been going recently, but a few years back they broke the triumvirate of Sporting, Porto, Benfica and won the League. Maybe they busted themselves doing it.

Long time ago that, been relegated since then but promoted again back to the top league.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: joteddyred on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 12:21:31
Obika has tweeted 'Thanks for the memories'.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 12:31:51
Obika has tweeted 'Thanks for the memories'.

Tweet or a DM?  ;)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Thursday, June 15, 2017, 13:59:14
Obika has tweeted 'Thanks for the memories'.

The treatment table tweeted the same apparently.

Hopefully he can stay fit wherever he goes and play a full season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: tans on Friday, June 16, 2017, 17:33:52
Branco to Boavista confirmed



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, June 16, 2017, 17:35:44
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v490/jamiethon/raffa_zpspedmcxti.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/jamiethon/media/raffa_zpspedmcxti.jpg.html)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: sonicyouth on Friday, June 16, 2017, 17:37:20
Do they not hold the scarf over the head in Portugal? Is it a cultural thing? Can anyone confirm?

Good luck to him. A limited player somewhat lacking in gray matter but always committed.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, June 16, 2017, 17:43:20
Good luck to him. A limited player somewhat lacking in gray matter but always committed.
Spot on.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: THE FLASH on Friday, June 16, 2017, 18:07:57
Spot on.

Good luck to him.

Reckless at times but committed.

Based in Porto? I suppose he speaks the lingo too.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Friday, June 16, 2017, 18:17:29
on his day was a reasonably good defender.

on his off day he let opposition walk past him, was caught out of position and banged the badge on his shirt a bit.

wish him well, but not that bothered either.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: donkey on Friday, June 16, 2017, 18:37:09
Given his positional sense, I'm surprised he didn't end up in Lisbon.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Friday, June 16, 2017, 18:42:35
Technically, is he not still a contracted Town player?

Treacherous dog if so.

Anyway good luck to him, plenty of sunshine, 34 games a season and can speak the language, what's not to like.

Wouldn't be surprised to see him contention for a Brazil call up.
Expect him to be nicknamed "cotovelo".


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: singingiiiffy on Friday, June 16, 2017, 19:06:01
The first and probably last professional footballer I will ever see take 3 consecutive foul throws in one match. Fanstastic deal for him how on earth did they scout him! He had good games but should never have been a regular starter for us.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Super Hans on Friday, June 16, 2017, 19:06:31
Quality move for him.

Personally glad he's gone. Think he's a mistake waiting to happen at any level.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, June 16, 2017, 19:59:46
 Branco would have been one of the few I'd have kept.  But, no matter, we're more or less starting from scratch anyway, so might as well do the entire squad.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Monday, June 26, 2017, 21:11:10
Does the Dunne signing mean Tom Smith is likely to be bench warmer this season if he does sign his contract?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: singingiiiffy on Monday, June 26, 2017, 21:51:52
Does the Dunne signing mean Tom Smith is likely to be bench warmer this season if he does sign his contract?

I'm not sure I would ever have had him as a starter, not yet anyway. Hope he signs


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Super Hans on Monday, June 26, 2017, 22:01:48
I fear for anyone left over from last season. Brophy for example may well struggle.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, June 26, 2017, 22:23:05
I fear for anyone left over from last season. Brophy for example may well struggle.
Hope so. Absolutely not cut out for league football.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Super Hans on Monday, June 26, 2017, 22:43:55
Agree unfortunately. Interested to see how Goddard gets on. Hopefully built some muscle. Think he's got promise but so lightweight.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, June 27, 2017, 08:07:45
All about balance and depth. No reason why JG can't play wide. No reason why Tom Smith can't be a 3rd or 4th choice CM if we're playing 442.

Brophy's going to have to go through an almighty transformation to be up to the new regime though.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Tuesday, June 27, 2017, 08:09:38
The issue with Brophy will be fitness.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, June 27, 2017, 08:51:27
The issue with Brophy will be fitness.
If Brophy can improve his fitness, which I think our players will do under Flickers, and as long as he is played in a wide wing position rather than wingback or even fullback then I think he can improve vastly. Also take you man on as he has some pace about him, get to the byline and get crosses in the box.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, June 27, 2017, 08:58:10
All about balance and depth. No reason why JG can't play wide. No reason why Tom Smith can't be a 3rd or 4th choice CM if we're playing 442.

Brophy's going to have to go through an almighty transformation to be up to the new regime though.

Sometimes with players, it's just about playing to their strengths.

Brophy's strength is an ability to dribble with the ball and go past people. Now this is something of a dying art. Many coaches don't encourage it, as it's high risk.

My gut feeling is that Flitcroft will be a conservative coach, so it's unlikely Brophy will see much game time, but maybe could find use as an impact sub , if chasing a game.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Bogus Dave on Tuesday, June 27, 2017, 09:00:10
If brophy can improve literally every aspect of his game he might be a decent option off the bench


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, June 27, 2017, 09:02:26
I'm going to stick my nexk out and say Brophy is wank and is not going to make an impact this season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Super Hans on Tuesday, June 27, 2017, 09:13:00
I'm going to stick my nexk out and say Brophy is wank and is not going to make an impact this season.
Agree. Of all the kids we've played he seems the most out of his depth in the Football League. Don't see it getting any easier for him in League 2.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, June 27, 2017, 09:21:45
Agree. Of all the kids we've played he seems the most out of his depth in the Football League. Don't see it getting any easier for him in League 2.

He stepped further up than any of the others from his previous level...so getting to be semi acceptable in Div 3, is to his credit.

He's still youngish, so it is just about conceivable, that if a system is devised to play to his strengths he could be OK. One thing in certain, he's no left back or LWB.

Not many held out much hope for Alan Mac, it took Ossie playing him in the hole, as an attacking midfielder for us to get a mill+ and for him to go to the WC.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, June 27, 2017, 09:22:27
I disagree. There is a decent player there. A change in style may well see him blossom.

Ditto Goddard.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, June 27, 2017, 09:23:40
He's still youngish, so it is just about conceivable, that if a system is devised to play to his strengths he could be OK. One thing in certain, he's no left back or LWB.
Exactly. I wouldn't write him off so quickly at a lower level than he played at with us last season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Tuesday, June 27, 2017, 09:34:57
I disagree. There is a decent player there. A change in style may well see him blossom.

Ditto Goddard.
Agree on both.  Lots of potential which obviously has to be realised at some point but with decent coaching and improved fitness levels.... who knows?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, June 27, 2017, 10:08:25
Brophy needs a lot of work, but he has shown glimpses of potential. I wouldn't be upset if he left though.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: sonicyouth on Tuesday, June 27, 2017, 11:03:48
Brophy showed glimpses of ability but mostly just flattered to deceive with his horizontal runs from one wing to the other before giving the ball away. He has no defensive nous whatsoever and would be outmuscled by 99% of players.

If he can strengthen up and remember how to get to the byline, he might be worth keeping if we need a left winger.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, June 27, 2017, 11:16:56
Brophy showed glimpses of ability but mostly just flattered to deceive with his horizontal runs from one wing to the other before giving the ball away. He has no defensive nous whatsoever and would be outmuscled by 99% of players.

If he can strengthen up and remember how to get to the byline, he might be worth keeping if we need a left winger.

His other main problem is an inability to cross the ball.... not helpful in a winger, but that is the sort of thing that can be improved by hard work.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: sonicyouth on Tuesday, June 27, 2017, 11:20:10
His other main problem is an inability to cross the ball.... not helpful in a winger, but that is the sort of thing that can be improved by hard work.
He's able to cross a ball, just not consistently, which as you say is something than can be improved through training.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, June 27, 2017, 11:21:04
Him and Goddard are worlds apart. Goddard has the potential to be a big player this season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, June 27, 2017, 11:35:37
So in Brophy we have a winger who cannot get to the by-line and cannot cross a ball, nor defend.... but can run quite quickly.

Its Alan O'Brien all over again, he's only 32 lets give him another go!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, June 27, 2017, 11:39:12
So in Brophy we have a winger who cannot get to the by-line and cannot cross a ball, nor defend.... but can run quite quickly.

Its Alan O'Brien all over again, he's only 32 lets give him another go!

No Brophy can't run quite quickly... but he can dribble.  A O'B was one of those much loved in English football who can run quite quickly, into the deadest of ends.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, June 27, 2017, 11:40:42
No Brophy can't run quite quickly... but he can dribble.  A O'B was one of those much loved in English football who can run quite quickly, into the deadest of ends.

Ah the modern footballer with some skill but no ability to do anything with it a kind of lower league Raheem Sterling?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, June 27, 2017, 11:49:55
Sounds just like Raheem Sterling to me


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, June 27, 2017, 11:52:54
No Brophy can't run quite quickly... but he can dribble.  A O'B was one of those much loved in English football who can run quite quickly, into the deadest of ends.

Dean Hooper was a much better example.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, June 27, 2017, 11:53:56
No Hylton at training today. The only one missing.

Taxi for Hylton (again)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: THE FLASH on Tuesday, June 27, 2017, 11:56:26
No Helton at training today. The only one missing.

Taxi for Hylton (again)

Im sure Flitcroft and Futcher wont be standing for any hissy fits or Billy big bollocks. Kassim probably better get his head together too.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, June 27, 2017, 11:58:36
Oh, he isn't there either - not surprising though.

Obika seems rumourless


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, June 27, 2017, 12:01:51
He's able to cross a ball, just not consistently, which as you say is something than can be improved through training.

Improved, but how much...see: Shakes, O'Brien.

Actually think people are being a bit harsh on Brophy. But you need better players than him to get promoted.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, June 27, 2017, 12:18:29
Oh, he isn't there either - not surprising though.

Obika seems rumourless

Considering Obika was tweeting thanks for the memories assume he is off. Is Kasim off with Iraq somewhere, does he still play for them at what stage of the cycle of hissy fit are we at the moment?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, July 4, 2017, 17:31:51
Benjamin Wills‏ @_BenWills  2m2 minutes ago
More
 Yaser Kasim has signed for Northampton #STFC


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: tans on Tuesday, July 4, 2017, 17:33:21
soapy tit wank


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, July 4, 2017, 17:34:47
Benjamin Wills‏ @_BenWills  2m2 minutes ago
More
 Yaser Kasim has signed for Northampton #STFC
How his stock has fallen. Obviously didn't get the offers he was expecting, hardly surprising seeing as he's not been arsed to put any effort in for the last 2 years. Can see him fading away into obscurity if he carries on as he is.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Ells on Tuesday, July 4, 2017, 17:38:16
(https://media.giphy.com/media/xYHscQ1Np55i8/200w.gif)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: DorsetRed on Tuesday, July 4, 2017, 17:40:01
 :bye:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Saxondale on Tuesday, July 4, 2017, 17:44:38
He's going to Swansea for one million pounds isnt he?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, July 4, 2017, 17:44:49
He'll be one of their best players, until he decides he's too good for them.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, July 4, 2017, 17:50:56
He'll be one of their best players, until he decides he's too good for them.
That'll be the day after the transfer window closes yeah?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, July 5, 2017, 09:09:13
Iraq fans ain't happy.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: tans on Thursday, July 6, 2017, 17:09:22
Club retract contract offer to Tommy Ouldridge after he agreed to sign according to Ben Wills


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, July 6, 2017, 17:26:32
Wasn't it offered pre Flitcroft?
Sounds to me like DF didn't think he was up to much in training so asked the club to retract, which is fair enough.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, July 6, 2017, 17:37:01
Sounds harsh, but then I suppose football often is.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, July 6, 2017, 17:38:47
can't really comment without knowing the facts.

could be cuntish, could be he was looking elsewhere and they ran out of patience


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, July 6, 2017, 17:41:08
I did wonder myself why he hasn't signed it already. How long ago was it offered?


Title: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, July 6, 2017, 17:53:31
I know there was conversation of it not having arrived, but that was some time ago (end April).

somehow missed the 'agreed to sign' bit above.

can't find Wills tweet, has he deleted it?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, July 6, 2017, 17:54:42
I am sure he will end up at Chippenham or Supermarine.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, July 6, 2017, 17:55:34
Alan Connell is now youth team manager at Bournemouth.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, July 6, 2017, 18:24:59
(https://s23.postimg.org/sorgpr8m3/19679237_1585358138170692_5062334526652232685_o.jpg)

Looks like we have Ray Parlour as a 1st year scholar!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Abrahammer on Thursday, July 6, 2017, 19:29:16
Christ, bet he hasn't touched a bird yet


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: tans on Thursday, July 6, 2017, 20:17:47
Front left thought he was off to Megabowl

Good luck to them. Be on the first team bench by christmas


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Honkytonk on Friday, July 7, 2017, 06:45:25
Blimey, is that carrot top reincarnated?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Friday, July 7, 2017, 06:53:00
Blimey, is that carrot top reincarnated?
... and Tactics Tim 2 far right, front row (where else?).


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, July 7, 2017, 07:53:26
Has the one front row middle got tassels on his shoes?

Young lads always look funny in suits their mums have bought for them?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Power to people on Friday, July 7, 2017, 11:43:46
Front left thought he was off to Megabowl

Good luck to them. Be on the first team bench by christmas

Did he not get the memo on dress code


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Exiled Bob on Friday, July 7, 2017, 12:03:33
Has Hylton gone or is he still here?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Power to people on Friday, July 7, 2017, 15:19:14
Has Hylton gone or is he still here?


Did not return for pre season training so yes he's gone


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, July 7, 2017, 15:41:51
Has Hylton gone or is he still here?

Gone to Jed's latest vanity project hasn't he?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, July 9, 2017, 08:44:14
Got the feeling our new recruits are actually better than those who have left. No obvious downgrading to me - perhaps it's just the attitude thing.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Sunday, July 9, 2017, 09:03:10
I think attitiude and ability are inseparable. A Yaser Kasim with the right attitude would be a good Championship player but the Yaser with the sulky, pouty attitude we've seen for the last two seasons isn't worth tuppence and I was glad to see him go.

Loving the way it's shaping up though.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Tuesday, July 11, 2017, 21:06:35
Club retract contract offer to Tommy Ouldridge after he agreed to sign according to Ben Wills
Was this confirmed anywhere? I'm guessing it was true given he hasn't featured in the pre season games so far.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, July 12, 2017, 17:41:09
Could someone with knowledge and ability provide an update to the squad list as I have completely lost track of who we have signed and what positions they play in.

Thanks  :beers:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: BelfastRobin on Wednesday, July 12, 2017, 18:21:59
Could someone with knowledge and ability provide an update to the squad list as I have completely lost track of who we have signed and what positions they play in.

Thanks  :beers:

Goalkeepers

Vigs
Will Henry

Defenders

Ben Purkiss (RB)
Chris Hussey (LB)
Chris Robertson (CB/RB)
Dion Conroy (CB)
Olly Lancashire (CB)

Midfielders

James Dunne (CM)
Linganzi (CM)
Conor Thomas (CM)
Jake Evans (CM)
Tom Smith (CM)
Jake Simpson (CM)
John Goddard (AM)
Ellis Iandolo (AM)
James Brophy (LM)
Jesse Starkey (CM)
Jordan Young (AM)

Strikers

Luke Norris
Harry Smith
Scott Twine
Paul Mullin

Donal McDermott?!
Luke Oulridge?!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Wednesday, July 12, 2017, 20:52:21
Tom Ouldridge and Jordan Simpson


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Wednesday, July 12, 2017, 22:58:27
Nobody does a squad list like Costanza.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, July 13, 2017, 07:20:25
THE CURRENT SQUAD

GOALKEEPERS

Will Henry
Contract: 2018
Apps/Gls: 9/0

Lawrence Vigouroux
Contract: 2019
Apps/Gls: 82/0

DEFENDERS

James Brophy (D/WB/ML)
Contract: 2018
Apps/Gls: 64/1

Dion Conroy (DC)
Contract: 2019
Apps/Gls: 14/0

Chris Hussey (D/WB/ML)
Contract: 2018 (loan)
Apps/Gls: 0/0

Olly Lancashire (DC)
Contract:
Apps/Gls: 0/0

Ben Purkiss (D/WBR)
Contract:
Apps/Gls: 0/0

Chris Robertson (DC)
Contract:
Apps/Gls: 0/0

MIDFIELDERS

James Dunne (DM)
Contract:
Apps/Gls: 0/0

Jake Evans (MLC)
Contract:
Apps/Gls: 4/0

John Goddard (MRL)
Contract: 2019
Apps/Gls: 48/3

Ellis Iandolo (AM/FC)
Contract: 2018
Apps/Gls: 28/1

Amine Linganzi (DM/AMC)
Contract:
Apps/Gls: 0/0

Jordan Simpson (DM/AMC)
Contract: 2018
Apps/Gls: 0/0

Tom Smith (MC)
Contract:
Apps/Gls: 15/1

Jesse Starkey (MC)
Contract: 2018
Apps/Gls: 1/0

Conor Thomas (DM)
Contract: 2019
Apps/Gls: 37/1

Jordan Young (AMLC/FC)
Contract: 2019
Apps/Gls: 6/1

FORWARDS

Paul Mullin (ST)
Contract:
Apps/Gls: 0/0

Luke Norris (ST)
Contract: 2019
Apps/Gls: 46/6

Harry Smith (ST)
Contract: 2018 (loan)
Apps/Gls: 0/0

Scott Twine (ST)
Contract: 2018
Apps/Gls: 1/0


Gone?
Tommy Ouldridge (MRC)
Contract:
Apps/Gls: 0/0

NOTE: There may be some errors.
NOTE: Positions have been taken from sortitoutsi.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Bogus Dave on Thursday, July 13, 2017, 08:38:25
Has there been a season before where the whole squad has only scored 13 goals for the club?? I don't know how usual that is, but it seems low


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, July 13, 2017, 08:49:54
Norris' games to goals ratio looks terrible yet I still think he could come good. Am I being overly optimistic?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Tails on Thursday, July 13, 2017, 08:56:46
I've got the same feeling. Also mates with a Gills fan who reckons he could probably do alright in League Two


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, July 13, 2017, 08:58:33
Has there been a season before where the whole squad has only scored 13 goals for the club?? I don't know how usual that is, but it seems low

The lack of goals last season was the main problem... the defence although poor was in fact about averagely shit, whereas going forward it was historically shit.

However, given that only about 3 excluding Vigs have a realistic chance of playing much this year due to player churn, it doesn't mean a great deal.

That's how it is... football's equivalent of the gig economy.  I've felt for some years that lower league football, will end up more like the theatre... the players (actors) will be signed up by agencies, and then clubs (producers) and managers (directors) will trail (audition) for specific roles.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Panda Paws on Thursday, July 13, 2017, 16:46:55
Thanks Constanza.

So I reckon we need another RB, another CB, another ST, another AM L/R.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Ells on Thursday, July 13, 2017, 16:55:01
Costanza, it's Costanza.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: kaufman on Thursday, July 13, 2017, 17:23:30
Thompson
Boo
Branco
Dabo
Jones
Barry
Sendles White
Colkett
Gladwin
Kasim
Hylton
Ajose
Obika
Stewart
Rodgers
Feruz


A lot of players gone (16) might be missing others.
Some of those in that list were injured long term or out of favour for being a dick.

Is that 8 Signings in now?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Ells on Thursday, July 13, 2017, 17:38:34
McDermott is the 9th


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Riddick on Saturday, July 15, 2017, 14:41:18
Looking at the shape and players that played against Oldham on Friday it actually looks like we need more defenders. Looks like it will be 4-3-3.

Vig
Purkiss, Robertson (Conroy), Lancashire, Hussey (T Smith)
Dunne, Thomas (Iandolo), Lingnazi (Trialist)
Mullin (McDermott) , Norris (H Smith), Goddard (Brophy)

T Smith isn't really a left back, if you count him as cover for Dunne and exclude the youngsters who were not involved and guess who you have to consider back up, then we need one more Centre Mid and along with 2 full backs and a centre back in order to have cover everywhere.




Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, July 19, 2017, 16:36:40
Jordan Simpson joins FGR.

Wasn't going to get anywhere near Flitcroft's midfield , probably.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, July 19, 2017, 16:40:09
did he reject us, or did we withdraw his contact..


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, July 19, 2017, 17:20:34
As the three kids were offered contracts pre-Flitcroft, I'm not surprised he (and probably Ouldridge) have gone. He must be over the moon to be staying in the Football League and with a two year deal.

If we're honest he was on the fast track to Chippenham had Simpson stayed at Swindon.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: tans on Wednesday, July 19, 2017, 17:35:38
He signed contract according to Adver, club let him go for free


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: nigel grays a postie on Wednesday, July 19, 2017, 17:45:46
Entirely down to Power's mismanagement of the club that we have to be having the debate about which is the bigger club. FGR are a village team backed an extremely wealthy, determined individual who has enough dosh to throw bucketloads of it at his pet project cf a wide boy chancer got lucky looking to earn a return on his more limited cash investment at a much bigger and better supported club. Hopefully Flitcrofts more pragmatic approach will halt the apparently downward trend we were on under Powers crackpot plan with Williams that he would produce enough nuggets for Power to flog off and fund his Swiss Tax Exile lifestyle. From my very limited viewing of last years FA Youth Cup Simpson (and Ouldridge) looked OK without really making me think that they were the future of the club for years to come. Glad for Fitzroys boy that he has got a couple of years to move his career forward but hard to imagine he would have featured at all this year at STFC. Any one know if Ouldridge has already left?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, July 19, 2017, 17:56:00
we have to be having the debate about which is the bigger club.


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Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Honkytonk on Wednesday, July 19, 2017, 17:58:18
Aww hell don't start comparing FGR and Swindon, that can sometimes lead to you looking like a muppet.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, July 19, 2017, 18:07:29
I find the whole 'which club is biggest' debate to be rather banal usually, but I feel the need to but in on this one.

FGR are not even close in size to Swindon in any way other than budget, and even that is superficial. There is simply no debate to be had.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, July 19, 2017, 19:40:03
I find the whole 'which club is biggest' debate to be rather banal usually, but I feel the need to but in on this one.

FGR are not even close in size to Swindon in any way other than budget, and even that is artificial. There is simply no debate to be had.
Agreed 100% on both points. The 'Club X is bigger than Club Y'  debate is nebulous at best, impossible to prove or disprove and ultimately meaningless and actually pretty crass.

HOWEVER - There can be no doubt that some Clubs are indisputably 'bigger' than others. With that in mind and using my own vague, unwritten criteria we're not on the same fucking planet as them*

*Just in case anyone was in any doubt, I'm saying we're bigger than them**

**not that there should be any doubt.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: theakston2k on Wednesday, July 19, 2017, 21:50:00
Agreed 100% on both points. The 'Club X is bigger than Club Y'  debate is nebulous at best, impossible to prove or disprove and ultimately meaningless and actually pretty crass.

HOWEVER - There can be no doubt that some Clubs are indisputably 'bigger' than others. With that in mind and using my own vague, unwritten criteria we're not on the same fucking planet as them*

*Just in case anyone was in any doubt, I'm saying we're bigger than them**

**not that there should be any doubt.
A major difference is if Power walked out we should be able to survive as a going concern as we are pretty much breaking even, they'd be in liquidation within weeks if Vince walked as they are making £2.5m a year losses on a £600k turnover. Reality is in 10 years despite what Reg preaches chances are we'll still exist whereas they probably won't as their owner will lose interest when his business park falls through.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, July 20, 2017, 11:29:12
Jordan Simpson joins FGR.

Wasn't going to get anywhere near Flitcroft's midfield , probably.

Surprised there is no sell on included just in case


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, July 20, 2017, 11:38:10
Agreed 100% on both points. The 'Club X is bigger than Club Y'  debate is nebulous at best, impossible to prove or disprove and ultimately meaningless and actually pretty crass.

HOWEVER - There can be no doubt that some Clubs are indisputably 'bigger' than others. With that in mind and using my own vague, unwritten criteria we're not on the same fucking planet as them*

*Just in case anyone was in any doubt, I'm saying we're bigger than them**

**not that there should be any doubt.

In my scheme of things there are 4 categories of league club in England.... mega, big, medium and small.  It is possible for clubs to transition between status over a period of time, but it tends to be gradual, and difficult.

By way of an idea of how the rankings match up... I'd say mega are the Man U's of the world, there aren't many of them.  Big clubs are greater in number, but still relatively few.. I'd put the likes of Newcastle/ Villa down as big, despite playing in Div 2 last year.

Medium clubs, now contain the likes of Swansea, Reading and BHA, who have transited from small. Bormuff, need to do a bit more yet, to gain that ranking.

The majority of clubs are small, some have the potential to graduate to medium, and there have been times when STFC, could have made the move, but sadly failed. Bristol City 82 are a club who would like to become medium, but happily remain small, but with potential.

Our current status is small, with no immediate potential for a rise to medium.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Red Frog on Thursday, July 20, 2017, 13:27:56
In my scheme of things there are 4 categories of league club in England.... mega, big, medium and small.  It is possible for clubs to transition between status over a period of time, but it tends to be gradual, and difficult.

By way of an idea of how the rankings match up... I'd say mega are the Man U's of the world, there aren't many of them.  Big clubs are greater in number, but still relatively few.. I'd put the likes of Newcastle/ Villa down as big, despite playing in Div 2 last year.

Medium clubs, now contain the likes of Swansea, Reading and BHA, who have transited from small. Bormuff, need to do a bit more yet, to gain that ranking.

The majority of clubs are small, some have the potential to graduate to medium, and there have been times when STFC, could have made the move, but sadly failed. Bristol City 82 are a club who would like to become medium, but happily remain small, but with potential.

Our current status is small, with no immediate potential for a rise to medium.

So in your hierarchy Bristol City are in the same basket as Forest Green. Hmm...


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, July 20, 2017, 14:27:28
So in your hierarchy Bristol City are in the same basket as Forest Green. Hmm...

Yes, but with more potential.  

When City 82 formed, they were in Div 4 like FGR, in the subsequent 35 years, they've spent more years at Div 3/4 level, than in 2.

City are bankrolled by a wealthy individual, like FGR, their debt is eye watering.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: singingiiiffy on Thursday, July 20, 2017, 15:15:35
Yes, but with more potential. 

When City 82 formed, they were in Div 4 like FGR, in the subsequent 35 years, they've spent more years at Div 3/4 level, than in 2.

City are bankrolled by a wealthy individual, like FGR, their debt is eye watering.

Bristol city forum has a who's biggest debate every season. i think you would tip them over the edge if they saw you class them in the same bracket as newport, cheltenham etc


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Panda Paws on Thursday, July 20, 2017, 15:25:25
I think there's a 5th bracket of traditional non-league clubs having a good time of it in the league at the moment... FGR, Burton, Stevenage, Cheltenham, Oxford.

But yes, most of us are all the same.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: singingiiiffy on Thursday, July 20, 2017, 16:00:34
not one club is the same in terms of size, attendances, trophies won, capacity, new ground/old ground, potential, budget, impossible to classify.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, July 20, 2017, 16:16:25
not one club is the same in terms of size, attendances, trophies won, capacity, new ground/old ground, potential, budget, impossible to classify.

Classification seems a fundamental of the human brain... it's the only way we can make sense of the universe. Reality is a relative thing... it's the only way I can understand us being in the same league as FGR.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: singingiiiffy on Thursday, July 20, 2017, 16:55:29
Classification seems a fundamental of the human brain... it's the only way we can make sense of the universe. Reality is a relative thing... it's the only way I can understand us being in the same league as FGR.

Classification can make sense, but not when you have Bournemouth and forest green in the same category. It needs a lot of work


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, July 20, 2017, 18:38:46
Classification can make sense, but not when you have Bournemouth and forest green in the same category. It needs a lot of work

Bormuff are on the cusp of medium categorisation, depends on what Howe does.... they could rapidly unravel, whereas FGR are just at the start of small club category. It was as recently as 2009 that Bormuff looked to on their way to non league, they could just as easily head back there soon.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: tans on Wednesday, August 2, 2017, 17:08:37
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Swindon Town’s squad numbers for the 2017/18 Sky Bet League Two campaign have been confirmed.

The majority of last season’s squad have retained their numbers, although Luke Norris has switched from number 33 to number 9.

Youngsters Jordan Young and Scott Twine will wear numbers 26 and 27 respectively for the new season.

Town have brought in ten fresh faces over the summer and full-backs Ben Purkiss, Chris Hussey and Kyle Knoyle will wear 2, 3, and 24 respectively, while centre-backs Chris Robertson and Olly Lancashire will take up 5 and 6. 

Hard-hitting midfielder James Dunne will have the number 8 splashed across his back, Amine Linganzi will wear 16 and Donal McDermott has been handed 18.

Harry Smith, on a season-long loan from Millwall, will look to score plenty of goals with number 17 on his back and Paul Mullin is Town’s new number 7.

SWINDON TOWN’S 2017/18 SQUAD NUMBERS IN FULL:

 1. Lawrence Vigouroux

 2. Ben Purkiss

 3. Chris Hussey

 4. Conor Thomas

 5. Chris Robertson

 6. Olly Lancashire

 7. Paul Mullin

 8. James Dunne

 9. Luke Norris

 10. John Goddard

 11. James Brophy

 12. Will Henry

 14. Ellis Iandolo

 15. Tom Smith

 16. Amine Linganzi

 17. Harry Smith

 18. Donal McDermott

 24. Kyle Knoyle

 25. Dion Conroy

 26. Jordan Young

 27. Scott Twine


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Ells on Wednesday, August 2, 2017, 17:25:52
"James Dunne will have the number 8 splashed across his back"

 :gay:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Wednesday, August 2, 2017, 17:26:34
No number for Ouldridge then.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: tans on Wednesday, August 2, 2017, 17:32:15
No number for Ouldridge then.

Or Starkey and Jake evans


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, August 2, 2017, 17:36:52
Certainly doesn't bode well for Starkey.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Wednesday, August 2, 2017, 17:40:45
Certainly doesn't bode well for Starkey.
I did read a DF quote a few weeks back where he said Starkey was training on his own! As for Evans why have we offered him a deal if he doesn't feature in DF's plans! Strange one that!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, August 2, 2017, 18:20:52
strange all round.

Starkey I'm assuming was a Williams signing.

Wondered if the other two would be out on loan / off to Waterford  for 'development', but it could just be cost cutting following the relation. would explain the TO contact withdrawal


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Wednesday, August 2, 2017, 19:02:00
The fact Ouldridge is seemingly still on the scene surely points to his contract being signed and sealed prior to Flitcroft's arrival - if it was withdrawn then he'd be nowhere near the club. The offering of deals to the three youths and to the woeful Hylton prior to an appointment of a new manager strikes me as very strange by Lee Power, especially given his reputation for keeping an keen eye on costs.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: garethgillman on Wednesday, August 2, 2017, 19:06:09
but it could just be cost cutting following the relation. would explain the TO contact withdrawal

are you reg as that's the sort of thing he would say.

Tom Ouldridge's dad posted on the FB group on Saturday during the Woking game and basically said Tom has been told he needs to go out and find some game time (hence playing for Bath City on Saturday). The only realistic reason that these players are being told that is they are surplus to requirements for the team for this season, they haven't shown enough to warrant a team position, where as Smith and Twine have.

There will be very little monetary saving getting rid of 3 players of that calibre who won't be earning much. It's football, not everyone makes it, look at how many ex scholars play for Marine, Chippenham and the other local non-league teams, quite a few and how many go any higher than non-league? very few.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Wednesday, August 2, 2017, 19:13:10
Gillman,

You have somewhat of a reputation in these parts for talking out of your arse. Your last paragraph is a classic example - I am not sure how can you link the wages of three first team professionals to ex scholars plying their trade on the non league circuit. Of course there would be a reasonable financial saving if we offloaded three first teamers  :hmmm:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, August 2, 2017, 19:18:44

You have somewhat of a reputation in these parts for talking out of your arse.

Coming from you, this literally just made me laugh out loud.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: garethgillman on Wednesday, August 2, 2017, 19:19:09
Gillman,

You have somewhat of a reputation in these parts for talking out of your arse. Your last paragraph is a classic example - I am not sure how can you link the wages of three first team professionals to ex scholars plying their trade on the non league circuit. Of course there would be a reasonable financial saving if we offloaded three first teamers  :hmmm:

You call Starkey who played 1 game, Ouldridge and Evans first team professionals? I would be very surprised if they are on more than £500 p/w each, that's not exactly a massive saving when Williams was on more nearly double what each 3 of them would earn combined...... If we were cost cutting then the last people affected would be 3 low paid footballers, considering they haven't been released and Starkey played on Tuesday means the club are still paying them. Just this week we got a new club secretary, why would they do that if they were cost cutting?

Now go back 4 years ago when we released Williams, that was a definite way to save money as he was supposedly on £7k a week......


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Wednesday, August 2, 2017, 19:27:36
Williams on 7k a week? Where on earth did you read that, the FB group? Oh wait....


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, August 2, 2017, 19:32:02
Maybe it's just me, but I'm finding the irony hilarious. I wish I didn't have to crash now.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: garethgillman on Wednesday, August 2, 2017, 19:35:25
Williams on 7k a week? Where on earth did you read that, the FB group? Oh wait....

I said supposedly as we will never know but that's based on figures given by Power that Williams was the top earner..... we were paying stupid wages for some players and Williams was one of them hence him being shot of as soon as his contract ended.


Title: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, August 2, 2017, 21:57:29
if you are citing a £1m loss due to relagation you cut costs wherever you can in non essential personnel . (not you Gillmam, Power)

I don't know what is what regarding TO and his contact/withdrawal/reinstatement/whatever. But it's not a stupid suggestion even if it turns out not to be correct.

and I think we fucking well  know Williams wasn't on £364k a year ;) 7k a month seems more believable.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Tails on Thursday, August 3, 2017, 08:44:45
Gillman,

You have somewhat of a reputation in these parts for talking out of your arse.

Erm...


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: reeves4england on Thursday, August 3, 2017, 08:57:55
Erm...

 :D


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: derbystfc on Thursday, August 3, 2017, 09:01:17
Erm...

Yep


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Berniman on Thursday, August 3, 2017, 09:15:38
Gillman,

You have somewhat of a reputation in these parts for talking out of your arse. Your last paragraph is a classic example - I am not sure how can you link the wages of three first team professionals to ex scholars plying their trade on the non league circuit. Of course there would be a reasonable financial saving if we offloaded three first teamers  :hmmm:

This post should be quoted in the dictionary under either pot, kettle or black...


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Abrahammer on Thursday, August 3, 2017, 09:21:14
Williams on 7k a week? Where on earth did you read that, the FB group? Oh wait....

You know he's talking about Andy not Luke don't you?

Given the regime who gave Andy his contract it's not exactly unbelievable


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: tans on Thursday, August 3, 2017, 09:21:51
This is true, they offered Adam Rooney an 8k a week package remember


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, August 3, 2017, 09:35:47
You know he's talking about Andy not Luke don't you?

Bugger, I missed that. Apologies Mr Gillman.

Stills seems very high even for the PDC era though.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: garethgillman on Thursday, August 3, 2017, 09:52:56
Bugger, I missed that. Apologies Mr Gillman.

Stills seems very high even for the PDC era though.

My fault for not being specific as we have had a few Williams' recently (Andy, Jordan and Luke).

Luke was on 100k+ a year (according to the adver) but Andy was on big wages like a lot of the players under PDC.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: dogs on Thursday, August 3, 2017, 10:01:39
The wages we were paying back then for a League One club was insane.

£6K a week for Williams
£8K for Gary Roberts
£10K for Navarro!!

PDC was on £800K a year.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: tans on Thursday, August 3, 2017, 10:31:17
10k for Navarro?

Ok


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: tans on Thursday, August 3, 2017, 16:12:31
Jesse Starkey told he can find a new club.

Jake Evans and Tom Ouldridge still under contract but looking to be loaned out


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Power to people on Friday, August 4, 2017, 12:50:06
Has it been announced who is team captain and club captain this season ?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: tans on Friday, August 4, 2017, 12:57:57
Olly Lancashire captain
James Dunne vice captain

Just announced


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Private Fraser on Tuesday, September 5, 2017, 13:51:44
Scott Twine to Salisbury on initial one month loan.

https://twitter.com/SalisburyFC/status/905055193095692288

https://www.salisburyfc.co.uk/index.php/news/885-steve-moves-for-scott-to-strengthen-striking-options


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Posh Red on Tuesday, September 5, 2017, 17:35:47
Starkey's contract cancelled


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Costanza on Friday, September 8, 2017, 09:59:44
Twine joins Chippenham for three months. I thought it was odd that Claridge was 'having a look' instead of signing him.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: tans on Friday, September 8, 2017, 11:08:37
Will Henry to Dunstable Town on a months loan


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, September 8, 2017, 11:17:13
Will Henry to Dunstable Town on a months loan

George Best and Jeff Astle once played for Dunstable... Barry Fry was boss and given carte blanche to spend. They went bust after a couple of years.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, September 8, 2017, 11:26:54
Will Henry to Dunstable Town on a months loan
Conceded 23 goals in the last 6 league and cup games in the Southern Premier League, will be an experience for him, hopefully he will improve them in his time there.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Power to people on Friday, September 8, 2017, 14:15:12
Conceded 23 goals in the last 6 league and cup games in the Southern Premier League, will be an experience for him, hopefully he will improve them in his time there.

I must admit I thought he would get sent on loan at a better level than the Evo Stick expected maybe a lower conference level team - I suppose maybe with Dunstable he can continue to train at stfc and then play games at the end of the week


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Costanza on Friday, September 8, 2017, 16:32:38
I dare say that finding a club willing to commit to fielding a relatively inexperienced teenage goalkeeper is quite problematic especially at this stage of the season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, September 8, 2017, 16:51:02
I dare say that finding a club willing to commit to fielding a relatively inexperienced teenage goalkeeper is quite problematic especially at this stage of the season.

Indeed, and there is no point sending him anywhere he isn't going to be getting a game...


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, September 9, 2017, 16:32:12
Will Henry debut - Dunstable lost 8-1.

 :headhurts:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, September 9, 2017, 16:39:14
Will Henry debut - Dunstable lost 8-1.

 :headhurts:

I think they've been conceding loads anyway. The previous guy would have let in 12 ;)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, September 12, 2017, 11:31:49
Indeed, and there is no point sending him anywhere he isn't going to be getting a game...

Agreed but as he is well thought of in the young Eng setup thought may help get him a club higher up the pyramid


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, September 12, 2017, 11:39:45
Agreed but as he is well thought of in the young Eng setup thought may help get him a club higher up the pyramid

Goalkeeper is a funny position , as I've said before about Vigs and transfer value. It's especially true of young keepers. Take an interesting example like Scott Loach... good enough for the England U 21's, and played in the 09 Euro final v Huns, subsequently called up to the England squad without getting a game... now at Hpool in the Conference. Still only 29.



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Jilted John on Tuesday, September 12, 2017, 18:39:40
Henry is on a hiding to nothing at Dunstable, if he plays great he will still let in goals with that leaky defence in front of him.

Could affect his confidence if he has a weaker character, hopefully he has a strong one.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Kinky Tom on Thursday, September 21, 2017, 14:40:44
Brophy off to Orient for three months.

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2017/september/brophy-heads-out-on-loan/


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: tans on Thursday, September 21, 2017, 14:41:13
Eh? I thought the transfer window is shut?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, September 21, 2017, 14:41:19
James Brophy joins Leyton Orient on a 3 month loan.

EDIT. beaten to it....

Conference teams can still sign player son loan for up to 3 months out of the window as we used to be able to.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Thursday, September 21, 2017, 14:42:14
GWR Reds will be in tears


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, September 21, 2017, 14:52:05
Thought Brophy was rated, but I suppose a couple of players have moved ahead of him so maybe a chance for him to play himself into some form and come back and fight for a place and show what he is capable of


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Bogus Dave on Thursday, September 21, 2017, 15:12:00
About his level, if not one division too high still


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, September 21, 2017, 15:25:38
Thought Brophy was rated, but I suppose a couple of players have moved ahead of him so maybe a chance for him to play himself into some form and come back and fight for a place and show what he is capable of

It's been pretty obvious that Flitters didn't rate the remainers aside from Vigs and Norris, and a lesser extent Conroy.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Kinky Tom on Thursday, September 21, 2017, 15:31:54
Hopefully he can get plenty of full matches under his belt, he could learn how to be more effective. 

Could also be a way of freeing up wages for a while in order to get a free agent in in place of Conroy.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: theakston2k on Thursday, September 21, 2017, 15:54:58
About his level, if not one division too high still

Still too high I'd say, doesn't matter what level you play at if you can't do anything with the ball. His pace lets him flatter to deceive but take that away and ability wise he's probably Supermarine or lower.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, September 21, 2017, 15:57:52
Hopefully he can get plenty of full matches under his belt, he could learn how to be more effective. 

Didn't Embers pitch up at Brisbane Road?  So unlikely


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Kinky Tom on Thursday, September 21, 2017, 15:59:29
Good point


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, September 21, 2017, 17:16:30
Another 2016-17 regular gone.

These sort of deals tend to mark the end as far as the parent club are concerned. Well it does in my mind anyway.

So long, Brophy.  :bye:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Super Hans on Thursday, September 21, 2017, 17:34:45
Without wishing to be an arsehole about it...good.

Be surprised if he ever surfaces in League football again.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, September 21, 2017, 17:44:59

Still too high I'd say, doesn't matter what level you play at if you can't do anything with the ball. His pace lets him flatter to deceive but take that away and ability wise he's probably Supermarine or lower.

I think that he is from the Alan O'Brien school of football, whereby if you can run fucking quickly coaches often think they can polish you into a footballer, but after a while realise that actually you can just run quickly with no end product and give up and pass you on, to go through various clubs until the penny drops.

When we signed O'Brien, a mate who was a Newcastle regular emailed me and said he was quick but with little football brain and no end product, and that summed him up, and does Brophy to a degree.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Power to people on Friday, September 22, 2017, 12:05:08
I think that he is from the Alan O'Brien school of football, whereby if you can run fucking quickly coaches often think they can polish you into a footballer, but after a while realise that actually you can just run quickly with no end product and give up and pass you on, to go through various clubs until the penny drops.

When we signed O'Brien, a mate who was a Newcastle regular emailed me and said he was quick but with little football brain and no end product, and that summed him up, and does Brophy to a degree.

Brophy is still young and hopefully with regular football will improve - I think he has the makings of a decent winger but needs to learn


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Tails on Friday, September 22, 2017, 12:15:42
What's he gonna learn from Ross Embleton that he hasn't already? He had two years worth of coaching under him and didn't really improve.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: RobertT on Friday, September 22, 2017, 13:26:12
Self learning by being in game situations.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, September 23, 2017, 18:51:17
Scott Twine got a brace for Chippenham today.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, September 24, 2017, 10:07:34
Scott Twine got a brace for Chippenham today.
And Henry only conceded once...bonus, they still lost though.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, September 24, 2017, 10:10:48
And Brophy got MOM (by some) for Orient on his debut in a 2-2 draw at Aldershot for the O's.

http://leytonorientforum.co.uk/topic22953.html?sid=514f76c2c70f7118c4873ce540428ba5


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Sunday, September 24, 2017, 10:14:14
And Brophy got MOM (by some) for Orient on his debut in a 2-2 draw at Aldershot for the O's.

http://leytonorientforum.co.uk/topic22953.html?sid=514f76c2c70f7118c4873ce540428ba5
Although there seems to be some dispute over it - not clear cut it would seem. He must have at least done 'OK' though...


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, September 24, 2017, 10:18:49
Although there seems to be some dispute over it - not clear cut it would seem. He must have at least done 'OK' though...
Yeah, the same as here at Swindon, Brophy seems to polarize opinions.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, September 24, 2017, 10:20:05
Jake Evans played 50 mins coming on as sub for Farnborough and got booked in a 2-1 win.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Sunday, September 24, 2017, 13:58:58
When are we likely to have John Goddard back?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Sunday, September 24, 2017, 14:34:04
When are we likely to have John Goddard back?
He was available for the FGR game but DF said he wanted defensive cover on the bench so went with Knoyle.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Bogus Dave on Monday, September 25, 2017, 18:05:48
New signing to be announced shortly.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: tans on Friday, September 29, 2017, 12:48:29
Tommy Ouldridge signs on loan at Chippenham. This has confused the hell out of me as i thought his contract offer was retracted


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: pauld on Friday, September 29, 2017, 14:15:42
Tommy Ouldridge signs on loan at Chippenham. This has confused the hell out of me as i thought his contract offer was retracted
Think he'd already signed the contract but two days later was told he could leave. So the contract still stood, but he no longer had a place in the squad. Tough thing to do to a young lad, esp such a reversal in the space of a few days


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: JoeMezz on Friday, October 6, 2017, 12:30:42
Hmm


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: tans on Friday, October 6, 2017, 12:47:30
Since deleted. What with LV tweet yesterday, and this one, wonder if there is trouble in the camp :D


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, October 6, 2017, 13:08:28
I'd imagine he signed expecting to be a regular starter - which, tbh, is the point of his loan. If he's going to play understudy to Norris it's not surprising he may want the opportunity of a different loan in January to get playing time.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Friday, October 6, 2017, 13:19:13
Orrrrr, he is very much enjoying his time here and a deal has been agreed to sign for us in January.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Ells on Friday, October 6, 2017, 13:21:09
Maybe it's his mum's birthday and he's bought her a really nice present


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: pauld on Friday, October 6, 2017, 14:00:18
He has Santaphobia and can't wait to get Christmas out of the way


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, October 6, 2017, 14:43:17
Does have the feeling of a bit of a bust up with the management as Vigs and Smith seem to be mates.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: sonicyouth on Friday, October 6, 2017, 14:43:44
Does have the feeling of a bit of a bust up with the management as Vigs and Smith seem to be mates.
what are you basing that on? just curious


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, October 6, 2017, 14:57:58
what are you basing that on? just curious
Both doing cryptic messages within a day on Twitter and using the zipped mouth smiley suggests there's something they want to say. Smith seem to have deleted most of his Twitter posts but I remember seeing him winding up Vigs a few times and they always 'like' each other's posts so would seem logical.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, October 6, 2017, 15:17:56
Some huge leaps in logic here, based on absolutely nothing.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, October 6, 2017, 17:09:50
I'd imagine he signed expecting to be a regular starter - which, tbh, is the point of his loan. If he's going to play understudy to Norris it's not surprising he may want the opportunity of a different loan in January to get playing time.

Not sure what Millwall achieve either having him sat here doing nowt...


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Ells on Friday, October 6, 2017, 17:27:58
Both doing cryptic messages within a day on Twitter and using the zipped mouth smiley suggests there's something they want to say. Smith seem to have deleted most of his Twitter posts but I remember seeing him winding up Vigs a few times and they always 'like' each other's posts so would seem logical.

Teammates in being friends shocker


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: tans on Sunday, October 8, 2017, 18:27:43
Looks like Harry Smith has gone back to Millwall?!?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, October 8, 2017, 18:27:46
Harry Smith appears to have left/sent back/recalled.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Sunday, October 8, 2017, 18:56:36
Where's this been reported?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: tans on Sunday, October 8, 2017, 19:01:25
Posted a goodbye tweet to chris hussey or something


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Sunday, October 8, 2017, 19:06:29
wouldn't be surprising. Millwall didn't send him to sit on our bench.

that said, Norris has been good. so can't complain


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, October 8, 2017, 19:13:51
I imagine nobody was expecting Norris MkII.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Sunday, October 8, 2017, 19:17:29
to be fair a few said they thought he might fire in this league.

I thought that myself until I saw him in pre-season being Norris MK1. So yeah, I am surprised.

I do retain a worry he'll revert due to loss of confidence, but since I've thus far been utterly wrong in writing him off I wouldn't lose sleep.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, October 8, 2017, 19:53:55
So what happens to the howitzers if Norris gets injured?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Sunday, October 8, 2017, 19:58:21
will worry about that after it's been confirmed Smith is off!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, October 10, 2017, 10:02:40
Confirmed now that Harry Smith has returned to #Millwall #STFC (Wills via Twitter)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, October 10, 2017, 10:41:19
So on the logic being presented above Vigs will be off today as well, them being friends and all that.....  ::)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, October 10, 2017, 10:58:48
So on the logic being presented above Vigs will be off today as well, them being friends and all that.....  ::)

You've lost me?

BBC Wilts have also tweeted it. I don't think they heard it off a man down the pub.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, October 10, 2017, 11:15:35
You've lost me?

BBC Wilts have also tweeted it. I don't think they heard it off a man down the pub.

go back a page....


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, October 10, 2017, 11:18:34
So on the logic being presented above Vigs will be off today as well, them being friends and all that.....  ::)

oooh I see....



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, October 10, 2017, 11:23:02
So on the logic being presented above Vigs will be off today as well, them being friends and all that.....  ::)

Not sure he'll be off today but soon I reckon.

Flitters hints that not all of his squad are on board, HS seems to be one, I'd hazard a guess that Vigs is another.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, October 10, 2017, 14:35:23
That STFC rumours site on Twitter reckoned that H.Smith and DF had an argument in training. Seemingly Smith thought he should be starting ahead of Norris on Saturday.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, October 10, 2017, 15:13:25
That STFC rumours site on Twitter reckoned that H.Smith and DF had an argument in training. Seemingly Smith thought he should be starting ahead of Norris on Saturday.

Would not really disagree with that - Norris must have been playing doped up on pain killers, surely Smith would have up for it having got a goal previous game.

But equally I can see why Norris playing would be better as he is a man in form scoring and his confidence is high and if he says he can play then you probably do play him


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: RWB Robin on Wednesday, October 11, 2017, 06:44:47
If looking for a replacement in Jan, Keyon Reffell is setting a few games alight for Hereford.....




Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Tails on Wednesday, October 11, 2017, 08:38:04
I just don't think Smith was very good. From the games I saw he didn't really win a lot for his size and he wasn't very mobile whereas Norris is, and looks more dangerous in front of goal (bar the one Smith did score which he took very well).


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Bogus Dave on Wednesday, October 11, 2017, 10:32:02
What tails said. Smith looked rubbish - him returning leaves us a lot lighter on bodies than it does on quality


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, October 11, 2017, 10:52:24
I thought Smiths best cameo was when he came on against Coventry. Other than that he hasn't done much except the goal.
To expect to be starting ahead of a striker who has scored 7 goals is a bit deluded though.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, October 11, 2017, 11:02:18
Norris must have been playing doped up on pain killers,

And you know the extent of his 'injury' how, exactly?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: ferret on Wednesday, October 11, 2017, 11:37:58
I'm not for a moment dismissing penalty scorers, I know as well as anyone that we've missed our share over the years, but the fact remains that anyone who calls himself a striker should bury the majority of them - and we shouldn't overlook the fact that 3 of the 7 Norris goals have been pens.

From open play he's had 3 in his last 11 starts, which isn't far ahead of last season's ratio (6 in 25 starts).

I'm not saying that he should have been dropped, or that he has an easy gig up there on his own. But, as far as I'm concerned, he's been indifferent again during the last 2 games, and the jury is still out.



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, October 11, 2017, 12:42:27
I'm not for a moment dismissing penalty scorers, I know as well as anyone that we've missed our share over the years, but the fact remains that anyone who calls himself a striker should bury the majority of them - and we shouldn't overlook the fact that 3 of the 7 Norris goals have been pens.

From open play he's had 3 in his last 11 starts, which isn't far ahead of last season's ratio (6 in 25 starts).

I'm not saying that he should have been dropped, or that he has an easy gig up there on his own. But, as far as I'm concerned, he's been indifferent again during the last 2 games, and the jury is still out.



His attempted finish when put through 1 on 1 at Forest Green, was frankly appalling.

That said, his goal against Coventry was a worldy.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: ferret on Wednesday, October 11, 2017, 13:10:36
His attempted finish when put through 1 on 1 at Forest Green, was frankly appalling.

That said, his goal against Coventry was a worldy.

I think that's part of the package with him - he's always more likely to score a good goal than a 'striker's' one. The same applied last season. I remember being right behind the one against Luton in the JPT and it was a peach, curled in at the far post.

He also tends to be more likely to score when the pressure is off - he has a cracking record in the JPT, got one when we were 4 down against Barnet, etc etc. But he's prone to screw up when it really matters (e.g. 0-0, 2nd half at FGR).


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Power to people on Wednesday, October 11, 2017, 14:56:55
And you know the extent of his 'injury' how, exactly?

If your shoulder pops out and then in then its not exactly pain free - he was playing previously on pain killers


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: tans on Thursday, October 12, 2017, 13:08:21
Tom Smith on loan to Bath City


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: tans on Thursday, October 12, 2017, 13:12:01
DF on harry smith:

DAVE FLITCROFT 🗣️ | "Harry Smith has had a few personal issues and he's back at Millwall dealing with those."

DF 🗣️ | "We're trying to get him in a good place to be able to continue his loan for us. The situation is ongoing."





Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, October 12, 2017, 14:05:26
Fits with argument then.
And a lot of other permutations of course.

Either way the door is open.



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, October 12, 2017, 14:05:51
Tom Smith on loan to Bath City

Really? Waste.

Still. we don't see him in training.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Thursday, October 12, 2017, 15:21:45
Hopefully the social media political correctness police won't pick up that all of our gingers have been shipped out on loan.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: garethgillman on Thursday, October 12, 2017, 16:22:17
Still. we don't see him in training.

Exactly, we see these players for 90 minutes where as DF sees them daily in a totally different environment, Smith will get his chance but he seems to not be at the level (experience?) that DF is looking for hence why he has gone out on loan along with others such as Evans, Twine and Ouldridge.

Smith will get his chance but he will have to earn it, not just given it.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, October 12, 2017, 16:29:52
Really? Waste.

Still. we don't see him in training.

Seems strange that he couldn't get a gig higher than the National League South, which possibly suggests that he isn't as good as some seem to think he is.

He has been knocking around our first team for a fair while, I remember he was on the bench for the game at Fleetwood in January 2015, but he is still only 19 so fingers crossed for the ginger lad.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, October 12, 2017, 16:46:57
Seems strange that he couldn't get a gig higher than the National League South, which possibly suggests that he isn't as good as some seem to think he is.

He has been knocking around our first team for a fair while, I remember he was on the bench for the game at Fleetwood in January 2015, but he is still only 19 so fingers crossed for the ginger lad.

Not at all, it's only 2 leagues below us... a bit like the 2 Derby boys have had to drop 2 leagues. From recent times the likes of James Brophy, who's much more experienced, could get a Conference gig, and Jermaine Hylton, however neither looks remotely good enough at that level.

BOO couldn't get a club in England at all....


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: ferret on Friday, October 13, 2017, 07:19:24
Not at all, it's only 2 leagues below us... a bit like the 2 Derby boys have had to drop 2 leagues. From recent times the likes of James Brophy, who's much more experienced, could get a Conference gig, and Jermaine Hylton, however neither looks remotely good enough at that level.

BOO couldn't get a club in England at all....


Well then it's all the more reason for youth players such as him to try to join a club like Southampton, or Spurs, or Derby for that matter, over Swindon.

Smith isn't a world beater, but anyone who has taken the trouble watch us over the last couple of years will know full well that he's a better footballer than Brophy, Hylton or BOO. If someone of his level was loaned here from a bigger club for the season, he'd play 40 games.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Friday, October 13, 2017, 07:36:11

Well then it's all the more reason for youth players such as him to try to join a club like Southampton, or Spurs, or Derby for that matter, over Swindon.

Smith isn't a world beater, but anyone who has taken the trouble watch us over the last couple of years will know full well that he's a better footballer than Brophy, Hylton or BOO. If someone of his level was loaned here from a bigger club for the season, he'd play 40 games.
Willing to bet any amount Smith will not be a pro in 5 years time. We do it all the time as fans with a particular youngster. That is 3 managers now who jave all looked at Smith and decided against playing him,must be a reason.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: ferret on Friday, October 13, 2017, 07:41:01
Willing to bet any amount Smith will not be a pro in 5 years time. We do it all the time as fans with a particular youngster. That is 3 managers now who jave all looked at Smith and decided against playing him,must be a reason.

Right, but when the club hardly ever brings a player through the system (Thompson x 2 and Pook are the only ones since the turn of the century to have been at Swindon on their 15th birthday and gone on to make 12+ league starts for the club), it doesn't exactly suggest a healthy treatment of / attitude towards 'our own'.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Bogus Dave on Friday, October 13, 2017, 08:13:19
Right, but when the club hardly ever brings a player through the system (Thompson x 2 and Pook are the only ones since the turn of the century to have been at Swindon on their 15th birthday and gone on to make 12+ league starts for the club), it doesn't exactly suggest a healthy treatment of / attitude towards 'our own'.

Contra to that, how many that we've let go have gone on to do anything of note? Only ones that spring to mind are bodin and carayol


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Friday, October 13, 2017, 08:20:19
Contra to that, how many that we've let go have gone on to do anything of note? Only ones that spring to mind are bodin and carayol

And both of them dropped 2 leagues to get games before 'making it' in the football league.

Ferret, go back to correcting Reg. Your own opinions are shit.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, October 13, 2017, 08:36:27
Right, but when the club hardly ever brings a player through the system (Thompson x 2 and Pook are the only ones since the turn of the century to have been at Swindon on their 15th birthday and gone on to make 12+ league starts for the club), it doesn't exactly suggest a healthy treatment of / attitude towards 'our own'.
Lukas Jutkiewicz?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, October 13, 2017, 08:40:37
How many other clubs at this level have players regularly coming through the ranks and going on to be regular professionals?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Nemo on Friday, October 13, 2017, 08:42:13
Lukas Jutkiewicz?

Not sure of the exact timelines but the specificity of Ferret's "15th birthday" thing makes me think that Lukas may have still been in the Southampton academy at that point


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, October 13, 2017, 08:51:55
Fans views on the quality, or otherwise, of players isn’t restricted to youth players.

I always though Fabien Robert was decent and he’s now plying his trade at Aldershot.

Those youngsters we flogged off, names bypass me, 2 to Wolves, 1 to Man City and probably others I’ve forgotten, none have come back to bite us on the arse.

Bodin was the result of Il Duce’s problem with his dad, I believe.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Tails on Friday, October 13, 2017, 08:56:02
Bodin had something about him but I'd never thought he'd reach the standard he has. Fair play to him though, he took the hard route and that's obviously benefitted him.

Henshall was the youngster to Man City. No idea where he is now. Randall went to Wolves and played against us for FGR the other day. He seems like he may come good and I can see him at L1 level in a few years. There's a couple like Jake Hyde and Scott Doe who have gone on to have fairly decent lower level careers.

I've only seen Smith a handful of times but he looked decent to me. It could just be a loan for game time? Flitcroft was raving about Twine and he was sent out as well.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Jilted John on Friday, October 13, 2017, 09:02:23
I didn't think Bodin would make it at any level above Conference either, he seemed a bit lightweight but has done well at the gash.

I have heard that Smith has gone on loan to get 1st team experience under pressure and to change his attitude which I have been told is lazy in training and he is a bit billy big balls at times which Flitcroft doesn't like.

He will be back but if this loan doesn't work out then I think he will be gone in January.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: ronnie21 on Friday, October 13, 2017, 09:44:16
Not actually in the squad - yet - but I hear the first team physio has now jumped ship!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Townend80 on Friday, October 13, 2017, 11:01:03
Not actually in the squad - yet - but I hear the first team physio has now jumped ship!

Tudor Britain rang, wanted the haircut back. 


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, October 13, 2017, 11:10:23
DF on harry smith:

DAVE FLITCROFT 🗣️ | "Harry Smith has had a few personal issues and he's back at Millwall dealing with those."

DF 🗣️ | "We're trying to get him in a good place to be able to continue his loan for us. The situation is ongoing."





Advertiser suggests that he has personal problems that we do not have the resources to deal with, but Millwall apparently do?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Townend80 on Friday, October 13, 2017, 11:20:07
Anyone else notice the lack of a team photo this season? Why have we not bothered?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, October 13, 2017, 11:25:40
I hadn't noticed. There must be a good conspiracy in there somewhere.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Quagmire on Friday, October 13, 2017, 11:29:56
I hadn't noticed. There must be a good conspiracy in there somewhere.
Power hasn't paid the photographer so he has refused to release the photos.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, October 13, 2017, 11:34:41
I hadn't noticed. There must be a good conspiracy in there somewhere.

Looking at this https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/teams/first-team/ it appears a fair few of the players don't really exist....


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: DiV on Friday, October 13, 2017, 11:37:10
Willing to bet any amount Smith will not be a pro in 5 years time. We do it all the time as fans with a particular youngster. That is 3 managers now who jave all looked at Smith and decided against playing him,must be a reason.

Must be...

There also must have been a reason why Michael Pook kept getting picked by about 5 or 6 different managers.

Be damned if I could tell you what that reason was mind you...


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: pauld on Friday, October 13, 2017, 11:37:44
Looking at this https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/teams/first-team/ it appears a fair few of the players don't really exist....
I notice most of our defence appear to have gone missing. That's just sensibly setting expectations IMO


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, October 13, 2017, 11:41:09
Looking at this https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/teams/first-team/ it appears a fair few of the players don't really exist....

The plot thickens.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Power to people on Friday, October 13, 2017, 11:58:22
Tudor Britain rang, wanted the haircut back. 

See its not confirmed in Flitcroft's interview, so now that is 2 members of staff they need to replace

Wasn't the physio the guy that was promoted from the youths when the previous physio followed Cooper to Forest Green


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Friday, October 13, 2017, 12:09:10
Be damned if I could tell you what that reason was mind you...

The threat of the wrath of Fatbury?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: swindonmaniac on Friday, October 13, 2017, 12:11:39
See its not confirmed in Flitcroft's interview, so now that is 2 members of staff they need to replace

Wasn't the physio the guy that was promoted from the youths when the previous physio followed Cooper to Forest Green
A programme seller and a girl from the shop I believe.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Friday, October 13, 2017, 12:11:49
Wasn't the physio the guy that was promoted from the youths when the previous physio followed Cooper to Forest Green

Yup...

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/15184982.Town_physio_Godfrey_moves_on/

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/15184982.Town_physio_Godfrey_moves_on/


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: ferret on Friday, October 13, 2017, 17:11:55
Not sure of the exact timelines but the specificity of Ferret's "15th birthday" thing makes me think that Lukas may have still been in the Southampton academy at that point

That's right yep.

I appreciate that not many of our youth teamers have done a lot elsewhere, but I'm not willing to dismiss that as being due to 99% of them over the last 20 years being hopeless, and I still think the club has a lot to answer for.

Some clubs of an equivalent size will obviously have it a lot more difficult to get very young lads in if they're in the suburbs of Manchester or similar. We are the size of a city, with no league club within 30 miles and no Prem club within 60 miles. We will always have a reasonable area to recruit from (even if, granted, big clubs still get first pickings). And yet we hardly ever make it work.

We are good at taking young boys from the depths of non league and developing them (Charlie, Gladwin etc), we are good at taking young boys from bigger clubs and developing them (Ritchie, Luongo etc), but we are bad at developing our own.

Even Nathan barely played until he was about 21, he couldn't get a game in the Wilson / Hart days. When Paolo di Canio (who gave Nathan his chance, gave Louis his debut at 17, and also gave some of the other young lads such as Kennedy and Storey a fair few games) represents the most patient this century, it really doesn't reflect well on the club at all.

Maybe Smith is a naughty boy. But Flitcroft was raving about him in the summer - he was doing the same about Twine. Another one who is way down the ladder because he would never get a sniff of football here. Last week they interviewed the Chippenham manager on the radio after their game and asked whether Flitcroft phones him in the week to talk about Twine. The answer was basically a polite and long-winded 'no'.

This could probably justify a thread of its own, but I'm heavily involved with youth development within another sport and it's something that I will always feel pretty strongly about.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, October 13, 2017, 17:25:12
I’d imagine when Flitcroft got the gig with a decent budget and the proviso of getting back up at the first attempt, blooding youngsters wasn’t high in his priorities.

Not that I advocate ignoring our own but those youngsters we bring in on loan look a cut above what we have.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: ferret on Friday, October 13, 2017, 17:42:05
I’d imagine when Flitcroft got the gig with a decent budget and the proviso of getting back up at the first attempt, blooding youngsters wasn’t high in his priorities.

Not that I advocate ignoring our own but those youngsters we bring in on loan look a cut above what we have.

Fair enough, and I'm certainly not against loaning youngsters in. But I haven't been taken by any of them yet. For example, all Gordon seemed capable of last week was laying the ball off to Purkiss (who certainly isn't in the team for his crossing ability), and I wasn't sorry or surprised to see him go off at half time.

And of course the older boys aren't tearing up trees. Dunne strikes me as a headless chicken with limited ability, far from the experienced cool head that he's meant to be, and McDermott keeps letting us down. Do they offer more than, say, Smith and Iandolo would? Not for me.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: tans on Friday, November 10, 2017, 18:34:12
Tom Smith loan extended by 2 months


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Red Frog on Monday, November 13, 2017, 14:01:06
McDermott out 4-6 weeks

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41970685 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41970685)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Monday, November 13, 2017, 19:33:06
McDermott out 4-6 weeks.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/41970685
Fixed it for you


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Monday, November 13, 2017, 20:23:11
McDermott out 4-6 weeks

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41970685 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41970685)

When inserting a link you don't need to use any special tags unless you want to name or shorten it. Fixed.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Red Frog on Monday, November 13, 2017, 21:03:11
When inserting a link you don't need to use any special tags unless you want to name or shorten it. Fixed.

How is a man supposed to keep up with all this change?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, November 14, 2017, 09:38:04
How is a man supposed to keep up with all this change?

(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/73/e2/b3/73e2b32617f9646ed76e2409584abd29--the-wave-motivation-quotes.jpg)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, November 14, 2017, 09:58:00
I'd try a snappy response but it turns out I don't know how to post pictures any more. Bloody TEF and its kiddytech.  >:(


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, November 14, 2017, 12:11:00
I'd try a snappy response but it turns out I don't know how to post pictures any more. Bloody TEF and its kiddytech.  >:(

Use tags like these:

Code:
[img]https://yourgoogleimage.jpg[/img]



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, November 14, 2017, 12:24:05
HOW TO: Embed images in posts (for idiots) (http://thetownend.com/index.php?topic=56478.0)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, November 14, 2017, 12:51:12
(http://s.quickmeme.com/img/8c/8c465d7483141b53850b960dd690ae0f1c1b57fbc8778883397bb5ad03e63a23.jpg)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, November 23, 2017, 13:13:25
With January approaching what do we need to improve for the 2nd half of the season, I'd suggest a box to box midfielder and a striker


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Thursday, November 23, 2017, 13:15:56
With January approaching what do we need to improve for the 2nd half of the season, I'd suggest a box to box midfielder and a striker
Cover in the defence and a creative type midfielder for at home. Not sure we need any more strikers


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, November 23, 2017, 13:19:45
agree with drs. need the linchpin in midfield that unlocks the attack.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, November 23, 2017, 13:22:28
No more strikers, although I did read something somewhere about Anderson being made permanent. Make of that what you will.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Thursday, November 23, 2017, 13:23:45
Be more than happy with that.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, November 23, 2017, 13:27:40
Yep. He's not quite the full ticket yet but the sort of player we could develop and sell on


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Panda Paws on Thursday, November 23, 2017, 14:01:22
GK to replace Vigs if he goes
Cover/upgrade in CDM

Attacking wise we're pretty well stocked but need to keep Elsnik fit.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: tans on Thursday, November 23, 2017, 14:30:22
No more strikers, although I did read something somewhere about Anderson being made permanent. Make of that what you will.

Rumours from the Palace end


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, November 24, 2017, 15:42:12
Tom Smith and Brophy have been recalled


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: JoeMezz on Friday, November 24, 2017, 15:47:39
Tom Smith and Brophy have been recalled

Right call to recall Smith, with Dunne one away from a booking need a player in there to replace him, or give bite to the midfield.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, November 24, 2017, 15:56:42
Tom Smith and Brophy have been recalled
Both been playing well for Bath and Orient respectively, Orient fans have enjoyed Brophy with his pace down the left according to their forum, hes been a highlight of a crap season for them so far.

We are obviously very short of bodies so it makes sense.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, November 24, 2017, 16:01:55
Tom Smith and Brophy have been recalled

Not exactly a surprise. I'd forgotten that Brophy was still ours, I watched one of his early games on BT for Orient, and he was terrible.  Dare say that the couple of months more work with Embers will have probably finished any prospects he had of making it as a league player.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, November 24, 2017, 16:17:56
Not exactly a surprise. I'd forgotten that Brophy was still ours, I watched one of his early games on BT for Orient, and he was terrible.  Dare say that the couple of months more work with Embers will have probably finished any prospects he had of making it as a league player.
Some good comments about Brophy on the O's forum, still seems like he struggles with the final ball though.

Quote
Brophy - 7 - Best player on the pitch. Pace to burn and can beat a man. As mentioned by others, his final ball is a bit lacking.

I like Brophy - it makes a change to see someone running at the opposition's defence and creating uncertainty. Yes his final delivery/decision making isn't always the best - but if it was he would be playing at a higher level.

Brophy out wide is an absolute must, we don't have any other wingers with the engine that he's got.

Brophy- 7: MOTM. Probably a 6 first half, 8 second. Roasted their right back time and time again and was a constant threat.

brophy not close to league standard yet ,very good once on the ball struggles with first touch. l think he's dropped his keys on the pitch seems as if he's looking for them never looks up , spends a lot of time apologising ...

Brophy caused them lots of problems.

Brophy was my man of the match , he was a nuisance all game , just a shame about his decision making at the death.

Brophy was a threat all afternoon and will be at this level

This league isn't complicated and watching Brophy skip around the Dover defenders at will it defies belief why we've been playing such an over-technical system.

Got to put Brophy down a mark to 6 because of his decision making, he was tearing them apart at times but more often than not didn't do what was required afterwards.

Brophy - 7 - Our best player going forward by a mile, can go past people like they aren't there. Unfortunately he isn't a left back,

Still feel we can get goals but should be going 4-4-2 to get Brophy forward who is one of the few players that looks like he could make something happen.

really like Brophy but I think it's pretty clear he's a wide midfielder/ winger than defender.

Brophy was a lone ranger tonight but with absolutely no show from any of the supporting cast.

Brophy would be my first pick. He was outstanding on Saturday.

Brophy coming on did make a big impact - played as a true winger.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, November 24, 2017, 16:31:54
Some good comments about Brophy on the O's forum, still seems like he struggles with the final ball though.

Think that pretty much sums up what we've seen. With some players it's attitude that is the problem, but his attitude is OK, he's just not quite good enough. It's a shame because I had hopes he might come good.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, November 24, 2017, 16:44:40
Right call to recall Smith, with Dunne one away from a booking need a player in there to replace him, or give bite to the midfield.
Think Dunne is OK now. Yellows have been wiped after the last game according to Flitcroft.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, November 24, 2017, 17:13:07
Think Dunne is OK now. Yellows have been wiped after the last game according to Flitcroft.

Someone will get a tackle on Sat, let's hope he doesn't get carried away and go full McDermott v Barnet.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, November 24, 2017, 17:22:51
Think Dunne is OK now. Yellows have been wiped after the last game according to Flitcroft.

Yep - could have done with Smith alongside him to close out the game on Tuesday.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: tans on Friday, December 8, 2017, 16:07:43
Tom Smith rejoins Bath City on a months loan


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Tails on Friday, December 8, 2017, 16:09:14
Meltdown to commence in....


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, December 8, 2017, 16:31:32
I was looking forward to seeing the new Messi at Accrington tomorrow.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Friday, December 8, 2017, 17:26:46
writing is in the wall for him then. hope he finds a club in January


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, December 8, 2017, 17:57:34
writing is in the wall for him then. hope he finds a club in January

Will he have to demolish it to find the writing within?  ;)

Its in his own interest to try and sort things out, its all very well having 'potential' but if he isn't playing at a decent level its heading towards fizzling out territory in terms of a career (he doesn't seem to have got a gig in the conference even), fuck me it must have been 3 years ago he was on the bench at Fleetwood and he doesn't seem to have progressed within the club since then despite 3 manager changes, which would suggest its possibly not a clash with Flitcroft which is causing this.



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Saturday, December 9, 2017, 16:55:18
He's a ginger Tory. Fuck him.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Ells on Saturday, December 9, 2017, 20:54:23
How did we find out he's a Tory?



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, December 9, 2017, 21:17:34
How did we find out he's a Tory?



From memory, he said so himself on twitter, or another social media platform.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Bogus Dave on Saturday, December 9, 2017, 21:37:39
BECAYSe all gingers are soulless and it’s a logical conclusion


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Ells on Saturday, December 9, 2017, 22:05:39
I think he's cute. Maybe it's because he still looks like his mum cuts his hair. I'd be disappointed if he was a Tory.

And some of them do have souls, the 'daywalkers'. Right Ginghino? :D


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Bogus Dave on Saturday, December 9, 2017, 22:35:18
All gingers are horrible and should be culled at birth


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Sunday, December 10, 2017, 15:04:29
I'm sure he confirmed it on twitter but all I can find now is a cryptic retweet about how social media influences people's opinion on voting day


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Sunday, December 10, 2017, 16:43:49
I think he deleted it. Was on Twitter


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Sunday, December 10, 2017, 16:45:05
Quote from: Bogus Dave
All gingers are horrible and should be culled at birth

One or two always slip through the net, apparently.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, December 19, 2017, 13:25:28
Which loan players will be binned in January ?

I suspect it could be any of them but I expect Smith to go back and maybe Anderson to follow him, I suspect Hussey will stay and end up loan no 6 if he regains fitness


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, December 19, 2017, 13:32:48
Smith for sure - but with Norris seemingly injury prone, that would mean a new strike force entirely. I’m sure when Flitcroft took over and asked about how he liked his teams to play he mentioned wingers getting crosses in.

Well, to me, we haven’t got a winger at all. Sure, we’ve got players with pace but none could be described as a winger. That’s why Danny Mayor was mentioned as a signing but was injured. Another example of Flitcroft playing players out of position.

Too many similar players - Gordon, Anderson, Woolery, Mullin - all vying for, essentially, 1 position. The others being bunged into a wrong shaped hole.

That Bury fan was, unfortunately, spot on about Flitcroft.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Tuesday, December 19, 2017, 13:50:05
Smith for sure - but with Norris seemingly injury prone, that would mean a new strike force entirely. I’m sure when Flitcroft took over and asked about how he liked his teams to play he mentioned wingers getting crosses in.

Well, to me, we haven’t got a winger at all. Sure, we’ve got players with pace but none could be described as a winger. That’s why Danny Mayor was mentioned as a signing but was injured. Another example of Flitcroft playing players out of position.

Too many similar players - Gordon, Anderson, Woolery, Mullin - all vying for, essentially, 1 position. The others being bunged into a wrong shaped hole.

That Bury fan was, unfortunately, spot on about Flitcroft.
Those 4 players you mention could not be more different


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, December 19, 2017, 14:01:12
Well, not really. With Flitcroft preferring 1 up top, those 4 are shuffled about to fit them in. Not sure what Mullin’s position should be, tbh. The other 3 don’t see much difference to me.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Tuesday, December 19, 2017, 14:21:22
I think you add Goddard to those 4.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, December 27, 2017, 15:27:11
THE CURRENT SQUAD

1. Lawrence Vigouroux
2. Ben Purkiss (D/WBR)
3. Chris Hussey (D/WB/ML)
4. Matt Preston (DC)
5. Chris Robertson (DC)
6. Olly Lancashire (DC)
7. Paul Mullin (ST)
8. James Dunne (DM)
9. Luke Norris (ST)
10. John Goddard (MRL)
11. James Brophy (D/WB/ML)
12. Will Henry
14. Ellis Iandolo (AM/FC)
16. Amine Linganzi (DM/AMC)
17.
18. Donal McDermott (AMRLC)
19. Timi Max Elsnik (AMRC/FC)
20. Kellan Gordon (AMR/ST)
21. Reice Charles-Cook
22. Kaiyne Woolery (AMRLC/FC)
23.
24. Kyle Knoyle (DRC)
25. Dion Conroy (DC)
26. Jordan Young (AMLC/FC)
27. Scott Twine (ST)
30. Keshi Anderson (ST)
31. Matthew Taylor (ML)

OUT ON LOAN

15. Tom Smith (MC) - Bath City
--. Tommy Ouldridge (MRC) - Cirencester Town


NOTE: There may be some errors.


Next line-up versus Notts County might be an indication of outgoings. Was there a explanation for McDermott’s exclusion?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, December 27, 2017, 15:28:07
Piss poor?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Thursday, December 28, 2017, 21:15:43
THE CURRENT SQUAD

1. Lawrence Vigouroux
2. Ben Purkiss (D/WBR)
3. Chris Hussey (D/WB/ML)
4. Matt Preston (DC)
5. Chris Robertson (DC)
6. Olly Lancashire (DC)
7. Paul Mullin (ST)
8. James Dunne (DM)
9. Luke Norris (ST)
10. John Goddard (MRL)
11. James Brophy (D/WB/ML)
12. Will Henry
14. Ellis Iandolo (AM/FC)
16. Amine Linganzi (DM/AMC)
17.
18. Donal McDermott (AMRLC)
19. Timi Max Elsnik (AMRC/FC)
20. Kellan Gordon (AMR/ST)
21. Reice Charles-Cook
22. Kaiyne Woolery (AMRLC/FC)
23.
24.
25. Dion Conroy (DC)
26. Jordan Young (AMLC/FC)
27. Scott Twine (ST)
30. Keshi Anderson (ST)
31. Matthew Taylor (ML)

OUT ON LOAN

15. Tom Smith (MC) - Bath City
--. Tommy Ouldridge (MRC) - Cirencester Town


NOTE: There may be some errors.


Next line-up versus Notts County might be an indication of outgoings. Was there a explanation for McDermott’s exclusion?

Knoyle?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, December 28, 2017, 21:55:26
Knoyle?

Thanks for the contribution.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Friday, December 29, 2017, 11:00:25
What's the situation with Jordan Young? Seems to have completely disappeared off the radar? Haven't heard anything about his injury??


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, December 29, 2017, 11:06:48
What's the situation with Jordan Young? Seems to have completely disappeared off the radar? Haven't heard anything about his injury??
It was announced as a very serious injury when it happend so I imagine hes still recovering from it.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: tans on Friday, December 29, 2017, 11:09:12
What's the situation with Jordan Young? Seems to have completely disappeared off the radar? Haven't heard anything about his injury??

Off this transfer window apparently


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Friday, December 29, 2017, 17:41:39
#tansmedia


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: tans on Friday, December 29, 2017, 17:49:37
#tansmedia

Throw enough shit and eventually some will stick!

The obika one came true, 18 months later mind :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Power to people on Wednesday, January 3, 2018, 12:37:21
Flitcoft does not seem to like 'project' players so I'm expecting the promising kids to move on to pastures new


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, January 3, 2018, 12:41:49
I predict (unsurprisingly) Vigs, Brophy, Smith & Goddard all to go out, Brophy and Goddard possbily loans the other 2 to go on perm transfers.

It won't free up much in wages but enough to bring in 2 new players probably.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, January 3, 2018, 14:18:17
Heard Chuckles inquired about Iandolo - offered £15,000. Power sent him off with a flea in his ear. He wants substantially more - and I mean substantial.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, January 3, 2018, 14:25:48
Heard Chuckles inquired about Iandolo - offered £15,000. Power sent him off with a flea in his ear. He wants substantially more - and I mean substantial.
Lots of rumours that Cooper will be out of a job if they lose Saturday, their fans don't like him at all.

http://forum.fgrfc.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=89992

http://forum.fgrfc.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=89952


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, January 23, 2018, 18:37:43
Lovely skill from Elsnik in today’s U23 game

https://mobile.twitter.com/dcfcacademy/status/955787214134198274/photo/1


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Tuesday, January 23, 2018, 19:50:37
Lovely skill from Elsnik in today’s U23 game

https://mobile.twitter.com/dcfcacademy/status/955787214134198274/photo/1

That was last night v Birmingham. They won something like 7-2 after it being 2-2 an 3-2 at HT.  Regardless, the skill is there and he has it naturally. Think Derby need to get promoted and likewise ourselves and we could have a chance of bagging him in the Summer permanently. L1 will be his next test. He can manage that already I reckon. Many Derby fans I know feel he should've been making the bench and coming on for them and they are doing pretty well.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, January 25, 2018, 11:01:18
Elsnik's back


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Thursday, January 25, 2018, 13:59:13
Elsnik's back

What's wrong with it?  :soapy tit wank: Nahh, some good news. Nice.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Posh Red on Thursday, January 25, 2018, 20:09:26
What's wrong with it?  :soapy tit wank: Nahh, some good news. Nice.

It is good news, assuming he can get back to how he was playing before the injury.

The question is, who does he replace in midfield.

Maybe Dunne, but if so who is going to do the shitty stuff.
Banks, but he's only just got going & has been decent in his first two games.
Anderson, plays a very different role


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Thursday, January 25, 2018, 21:44:57
It is good news, assuming he can get back to how he was playing before the injury.

The question is, who does he replace in midfield.

Maybe Dunne, but if so who is going to do the shitty stuff.
Banks, but he's only just got going & has been decent in his first two games.
Anderson, plays a very different role

Don't know if FH got my joke. Elsnik's back would be relating to his vertebrae. Elsniks back would relate to him being back here  :D

Hmmm, maybe Elsnik and Banks can rotate duties on the pitch? Much like a CB pairing will share covering duties and either going up for corners etc.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: RobertT on Thursday, January 25, 2018, 21:54:51
Lets be honest, we know why Dunne is supposed to be in the team, I'm not sure losing him would create the whole it should do though.  So put the two (Elsnik & Banks) in there and pray one of them remembers to defend.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, January 26, 2018, 06:51:14
Don't know if FH got my joke. Elsnik's back would be relating to his vertebrae. Elsniks back would relate to him being back here  :D


Sorry I didn't reply sooner, I've just got out of hospital. The joke cracked a few of my ribs due to my hysterical laughter.

'Elsnik's back', as I wrote it, was correct, with 'Esnik's' being a contraction of 'Elsnik is'. 'Elsnik's' could also be used to indicate possession, making it grammatically correct for your hilarious joke (his back belongs to him).

'Elsniks back', however, is not correct. Without the apostrophe, it just does not work. If you are going to try and play grammar Nazi, it's a good idea to get it right.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, January 26, 2018, 08:46:02
I've been impressed with Banks so far. Has a good range of passing, always looking to get us on the front foot and isn't afraid of a tackle (against Coventry he got stuck in a couple of times). Not afraid to get into the box either. Deserved his goal last week and really should have had a second when his shot in one of the melees was blocked on the line.

I do like Elsnik however but is he too similar to play in the same team as Banks?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, January 26, 2018, 11:45:40
I've been impressed with Banks so far. Has a good range of passing, always looking to get us on the front foot and isn't afraid of a tackle (against Coventry he got stuck in a couple of times). Not afraid to get into the box either. Deserved his goal last week and really should have had a second when his shot in one of the melees was blocked on the line.

I do like Elsnik however but is he too similar to play in the same team as Banks?

Atm we need bodies,  Elsnik back is good, but he's young so getting back up to match speed may take him a while. Hussey and Linganzi look a little way off yet.

So thus far in the window we haven't exactly strengthened...  our season will be decided by Valentine's Day, as we've a horrible run of games, including 3 Tuesday nights, we've lost the lot so far.

Div 4 is attritional, my instinct is that we don't have enough to get through this run of games, in order to make an auto push, but might just keep 7th place in sight.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Friday, January 26, 2018, 15:30:51
Sorry I didn't reply sooner, I've just got out of hospital. The joke cracked a few of my ribs due to my hysterical laughter.

'Elsnik's back', as I wrote it, was correct, with 'Esnik's' being a contraction of 'Elsnik is'. 'Elsnik's' could also be used to indicate possession, making it grammatically correct for your hilarious joke (his back belongs to him).

'Elsniks back', however, is not correct. Without the apostrophe, it just does not work. If you are going to try and play grammar Nazi, it's a good idea to get it right.

Glad to hear you found it so hilarious!

Oh dear, I intimated my own typo. I was certain that I had written 'Elsnik is'. I'm glad you have a sense of humour. My hilarious  initial joke still stands. It's quite healthy to be able to laugh at yourself.

Anyhow, he certainly is back, and I hope he does well for us for the rest of the season.  :pint:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, January 27, 2018, 13:07:35
Signing incoming...


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, January 27, 2018, 13:10:18
DONE DEAL 🤝 | We are delighted to announce the signing of Goalkeeper Stuart Moore on a free transfer until the end of the season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, January 27, 2018, 13:12:25
Back up for Cooke by the looks of it.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, January 27, 2018, 13:17:52
Signing incoming...

(https://media.giphy.com/media/4bN7mL1L7hWuc/giphy.gif)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: horlock07 on Saturday, January 27, 2018, 13:18:31
Apparently left Barra to play more football which suggests he isn't even their first choice...

http://www.nwemail.co.uk/sport/barrow-afc/article/Duo-leave-Barrow-AFC-93ff23bf-17b5-4b94-b731-386463d9db75-ds

Plus the other leaver has gone to Solihull so perhaps Jed and Power are working together.....

Assume that this means we have found someone to take vigorous?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Saturday, January 27, 2018, 13:19:23
got to have cover for RCC I suppose.

Vigs -> Brentford then?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, January 27, 2018, 13:20:15
DONE DEAL 🤝 | We are delighted to announce the signing of Goalkeeper Stuart Moore on a free transfer until the end of the season.
Interesting as he left Barrow to play first team football...apparently.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, January 27, 2018, 13:21:55
Apparently left Barra to play more football which suggests he isn't even their first choice...

http://www.nwemail.co.uk/sport/barrow-afc/article/Duo-leave-Barrow-AFC-93ff23bf-17b5-4b94-b731-386463d9db75-ds

Plus the other leaver has gone to Solihull so perhaps Jed and Power are working together.....

Assume that this means we have found someone to take vigorous?
Beat me to it.

Apparently he played the first 11 games of the season before being ousted as number one.

Must be a plan to loan Henry out again. The new bloke is 23 and has played 12 football league games in in total for Luton and Peterborough.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: otanswell on Saturday, January 27, 2018, 13:39:04
Interesting as he left Barrow to play first team football...apparently.

He wont be getting that here... luton fans think he his absolute shite


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, January 27, 2018, 13:40:47
He wont be getting that here... luton fans think he his absolute shite
He played in both legs of their play off last season conceding 6 goals in the 2 games.

Although the month before that he got Luton fans player of the month award.

https://www.lutontown.co.uk/news/2017/may/stuart-moore-wins-diamond-player-of-the-month/

Also this

https://www.getreading.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ex-reading-fc-goalkeeper-stuart-13073424

1st game he made a couple of good saves, let in one poor effort, a penalty and a long range great goal in the first leg.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72pEO6gE7Sk

2nd game for the 1st goal was poor defending but could have gone anywhere in the end, 2nd goal was very poor judgement coming for a ball he would never get definately at fault, 3rd goal he fumbled a bit but to blame him for the defender kicking the ball against him for an O.G. was a little unfair.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8wboH46Peo

Still young and learning so could be a while before we see him play for us, was on the bench 14 times for Reading in the Championship without ever coming on.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, January 29, 2018, 17:23:09
Scott Twine goes back to Chippenham for the rest of the season on loan.

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2018/january/twine-to-spend-rest-of-the-season-with-chippenham/


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, February 5, 2018, 12:35:40
Will Henry to Hampton & Richmond - The Beavers - on season’s loan.

Conference League South.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Private Fraser on Friday, February 16, 2018, 17:43:02
Nice piece on Elsnik and Gordon:

https://www.dcfc.co.uk/news/2018/02/life-on-loan-episode-two

Apologies if it’s already been put up.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Friday, February 16, 2018, 18:29:56
Nice piece on Elsnik and Gordon:

https://www.dcfc.co.uk/news/2018/02/life-on-loan-episode-two

Apologies if it’s already been put up.

Decent piece that. Nice to hear that Flitcroft sends clips to the family of Elsnik, in Slovenia. So they can see how he is getting on. Decent touch that. Doesn't have to at all.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, February 18, 2018, 17:31:13
Don’t know whether Flitcroft/Power are contemplating an out of contract signing, but Kelvin Wilson fits the bill.

Talk of him joining Notts County last summer so is prepared to slum it in L2. As with any of these, current fitness is the issue.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, February 18, 2018, 18:07:43
Lots of handy free CBs out there like Lewin Nyatanga, Kelvin Wilson, Kevin Gomis, Seb Hines, James Tunnicilffe, Andy Webster, David Edgar, Miles Addison obviously it depends if Flitcroft thinks we actually need cover and that these experienced defenders are not carrying injuries and fitness levels being ok etc etc.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Sunday, February 18, 2018, 19:09:30
What is Gordon Greer upto these days  :)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, February 19, 2018, 09:51:05
What is Gordon Greer upto these days  :)
About 6 foot 3 and playing in the Scottish Premier for Kilmarnock.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, February 19, 2018, 09:56:46
Not saying I am a shit fan or anything, but I only noticed last night that we had sold John Goddard....  :-[ :-[


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, February 19, 2018, 10:42:22
Was having a chat to Nick Bamosomi the other day about our injury problems, its only when you see it you realise that we have a lot of players that would be 1st team regulars out injured.

Conroy, Preston, Hussey, McDermott, Linganzi and now Lancashire.

I know Conroy and Preston are all long term injuries and Lancashire "could" be managed with painkillers but I haven't heard of the progress of any of the other injuries.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: ferret on Monday, February 19, 2018, 11:09:43
Was having a chat to Nick Bamosomi the other day about our injury problems, its only when you see it you realise that we have a lot of players that would be 1st team regulars out injured.

Conroy, Preston, Hussey, McDermott, Linganzi and now Lancashire.

I know Conroy and Preston are all long term injuries and Lancashire "could" be managed with painkillers but I haven't heard of the progress of any of the other injuries.

Hussey is a strange one for sure. 5 months ago he injured himself taking a free kick, and that's the last we saw of him.

We have the cover to ensure that he, Linganzi and McDermott aren't missed too badly. CB is obviously the issue, any team is going to struggle to cope with its main 3 centre backs out.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, February 19, 2018, 11:18:35
Hussey is a strange one for sure. 5 months ago he injured himself taking a free kick, and that's the last we saw of him.

We have the cover to ensure that he, Linganzi and McDermott aren't missed too badly. CB is obviously the issue, any team is going to struggle to cope with its main 3 centre backs out.

Flitters loves Hussey, it seems to be one of those where he nearly gets back, then trains a bit and relapses.  A shame as he looked our best player early doors, with just 10 weeks of the regular season left, it's starting to look a bit unlikely we'll see him again, but I suppose if he could be up and running within the next month, get up to speed then he might feature if we make the PO's.

Has anyone seen Romanski play?  He's listed as a defender so probably a CB


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, February 19, 2018, 11:35:23
Has anyone seen Romanski play?  He's listed as a defender so probably a CB
I have yet to see him play but Joe is a fairly tall CB.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Monday, February 19, 2018, 18:18:56
Was having a chat to Nick Bamosomi the other day about our injury problems, its only when you see it you realise that we have a lot of players that would be 1st team regulars out injured.

Conroy, Preston, Hussey, McDermott, Linganzi and now Lancashire.

I know Conroy and Preston are all long term injuries and Lancashire "could" be managed with painkillers but I haven't heard of the progress of any of the other injuries.
When you factor in Vigs there's 7 players there, who when fit, would be starting regularly or in Mcdermott & Linganzi's case, subs at worst.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: ferret on Monday, February 19, 2018, 18:22:02
Flitters loves Hussey, it seems to be one of those where he nearly gets back, then trains a bit and relapses.  A shame as he looked our best player early doors, with just 10 weeks of the regular season left, it's starting to look a bit unlikely we'll see him again, but I suppose if he could be up and running within the next month, get up to speed then he might feature if we make the PO's.

Has anyone seen Romanski play?  He's listed as a defender so probably a CB

He certainly got off to a good start, but I personally wouldn’t leave Taylor out of the side under any circumstances. It would be interesting to see how Flitcroft would handle having both of them fit again - though we might never know.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Monday, February 19, 2018, 18:55:18
He certainly got off to a good start, but I personally wouldn’t leave Taylor out of the side under any circumstances. It would be interesting to see how Flitcroft would handle having both of them fit again - though we might never know.
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He certainly got off to a good start, but I personally wouldn’t leave Taylor out of the side under any circumstances. It would be interesting to see how Flitcroft would handle having both of them fit again - though we might never know.
Put Taylor in front of hussey. They could overlap at will.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Monday, February 19, 2018, 19:06:18
Put Taylor in front of hussey. They could overlap at will.
If we're forced to go four at the back due to the CB crisis then Hussey in front of Taylor or vice versa would actually work in our favour imo.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: ferret on Tuesday, February 20, 2018, 07:57:10
Put Taylor in front of hussey. They could overlap at will.

I agree in principle - I'm just not convinced that Flitcroft would do it. It would be great to get the chance to find out, though.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: tans on Thursday, February 22, 2018, 19:37:34
Waterford confirm transfer of the season


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: singingiiiffy on Thursday, February 22, 2018, 23:06:08
Waterford confirm transfer of the season

If power did the same with all of our best players would they have a chance at the title and a route into the champions league big money pot.  :hmmm:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Friday, February 23, 2018, 08:04:33
Lawrence appears to be delighted with his move. I dare say they were his team he supported as a kid and he had Waterford posters all over his bedroom walls...

(http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/resources/images/7442368.jpg?htype=0&type=mc1)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, February 23, 2018, 08:56:16
Not forgetting his crystal collection.

I presume he had a choice to go or not. At least he wants to play.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, February 23, 2018, 09:26:55
Not forgetting his crystal collection.

I presume he had a choice to go or not. At least he wants to play.
He should be playing....for us.

Looks like him and Flitcroft never made up their differences, ah well.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Friday, February 23, 2018, 09:41:14
Based on his performances this season, he shouldn't be. This season he's no better than RCC. If we were going to change RCC then Moore should be ahead of Vigs. 
Vigs is potentially the better keeper but he's also potentially a bigger cock and potentially a bigger unsettling presence in the team


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, February 23, 2018, 09:46:44
he's also potentially a bigger cock and potentially a bigger unsettling presence in the team

I don't think there is any 'potentially' about it! It possibly says it all that no one appears to have come in for him in January, what with him apparently being the next De Gea....


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: tans on Friday, February 23, 2018, 09:49:18
I see that Waterford have announced this but STFC havent. Bizarre.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, February 23, 2018, 09:55:29
I don't think there is any 'potentially' about it! It possibly says it all that no one appears to have come in for him in January, what with him apparently being the next De Gea....
I think Vigs agent oversold his own ability to him.

I see that Waterford have announced this but STFC havent. Bizarre.
I see out squad list on the OS still has Smith and Brophy still with us, I think the media section of the club needs an overhaul to say the least.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, February 23, 2018, 09:58:01
It's not bizarre. It's slack, very slack, but not bizarre.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Friday, February 23, 2018, 10:32:50
confirmed until end of June


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: pauld on Friday, February 23, 2018, 10:33:13
he's also potentially a bigger cock
Been staring at the shorts bulges again chalkie?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, February 23, 2018, 10:49:34
It's not bizarre. It's slack, very slack, but not bizarre.
It is much more to do with media slackness than any possible conspiricy I think.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, February 23, 2018, 10:55:50
It is much more to do with media slackness than any possible conspiricy I think.

You mean to say it's not some part of a plan for Power to deliberately take us into non-league football for some as yet undefined reason?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, February 23, 2018, 10:58:31
You mean to say it's not some part of a plan for Power to deliberately take us into non-league football for some as yet undefined reason?
I didn't say that..... ;)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Friday, February 23, 2018, 11:15:54
Been staring at the shorts bulges again chalkie?
I did say potentially because its rude to stare.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: pauld on Friday, February 23, 2018, 12:20:40
I did say potentially because its rude to stare.
Just the odd sideways glance then eh?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, February 23, 2018, 15:29:53
Linganzi still fucked then...

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/16041671.assistant-boss-ben-futcher-reveals-injury-setback-for-swindon-town-midfielder/?ref=mr&lp=20



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Private Fraser on Saturday, February 24, 2018, 10:57:26
Vigouroux on the bench for Waterford's 2-0 defeat at Cork City last night.  Next fixture Monday night.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Monday, March 5, 2018, 11:44:44
Twine recalled from Chippenham


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Monday, March 5, 2018, 11:45:56
Actually find that quite interesting. Either Taylor rates him or a new man is on his way . Can we not bring Smith back then ?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Monday, March 5, 2018, 11:50:25
Dunno, just checked on Smith and nothing mentioned anywhere I can see.

Its not that unusual to recall players following a management change, but like you say - somebody must want to take a look be it Taylor/new bloke.

Oh wait, one other possibility - another injury to a striker...


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, March 5, 2018, 11:57:58
Dunno, just checked on Smith and nothing mentioned anywhere I can see.

Its not that unusual to recall players following a management change, but like you say - somebody must want to take a look be it Taylor/new bloke.

Oh wait, one other possibility - another injury to a striker...

At my last count we had 4 on the bench for Saturday.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: ronnie21 on Monday, March 5, 2018, 12:07:25
Taylor should know about Twine as he is training full time with the first team.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, March 5, 2018, 12:20:29
Twine recalled from Chippenham

I hope he has not been called back just to string him along.....


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: pauld on Monday, March 5, 2018, 12:25:50
I hope he has knot been called back just to string him along.....
Come on, horlock I know it's Monday, but still...


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, March 5, 2018, 12:31:47
Come on, horlock I know it's Monday, but still...

I would like to apologise, I have let myself down, I have let the forum down and I have shamed my entire family!

Most importantly I have sullied the fine memory of NevilleW  :no:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Monday, March 5, 2018, 12:32:24
Taylor should know about Twine as he is training full time with the first team.

I didn't know that. Fair enough.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Monday, March 5, 2018, 15:51:33
I hope he has not been called back just to string him along.....

That would be a right ball ache for the lad!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, March 8, 2018, 19:16:23
Hussey has been training all week!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, March 8, 2018, 19:20:44
Wow, he must have returned just after Flitcroft left. What a coincidence!

We need a LB as well in case Taylor doesn't fancy playing.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, March 8, 2018, 19:25:56
cynic


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, March 8, 2018, 19:35:19
He he.

Of course, though, it could genuinely be a coincidence.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, March 8, 2018, 20:01:49
He he.

Of course, though, it could genuinely be a coincidence.

Hussey is Flitters' man.  After the events in Sarum and the news that a former pupil of Commonweal was a Soviet spy, is Hussey just training to provide an opponent with insider knowledge  :hmmm:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, March 9, 2018, 09:13:18
He he.

Of course, though, it could genuinely be a coincidence.
It really isn't, Hussey absolutely hated Flitcroft (I may have made that bit up).


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, April 19, 2018, 11:14:30
Kellan Gordon returns to Derby.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Thursday, April 19, 2018, 11:17:01
Shame he got injured. Like a lot of loan players started off well but got progressively worse as the season wore on, not helped by moving into RWB. Hope he does well at Derby along with Elsnik. We've certainly had a lot worse.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, April 19, 2018, 11:21:45
Shame he got injured. Like a lot of loan players started off well but got progressively worse as the season wore on, not helped by moving into RWB. Hope he does well at Derby along with Elsnik. We've certainly had a lot worse.

I wouldn't be against signing him.... don't think he is much better than Div 4 standard, so a realistic target.  Whereeas Timi, looks a step up, so no chance of getting him.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, April 19, 2018, 11:27:24
I wouldn't be against signing him.... don't think he is much better than Div 4 standard, so a realistic target.  Whereeas Timi, looks a step up, so no chance of getting him.
Jury is out on Gordon for me, I think Knoyle looks a better option in our team, Gordon may improve if he can improve his delivery, a major part of a wingers job TBH.

Elsnik looked fantastic before his injury but since he came back has been no more than an average L3 player unfortunately, but when fit he does possess a huge amount of skill on the ball, I would love him back for a 2nd loan.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, April 19, 2018, 11:42:34
Jury is out on Gordon for me, I think Knoyle looks a better option in our team, Gordon may improve if he can improve his delivery, a major part of a wingers job TBH.

Elsnik looked fantastic before his injury but since he came back has been no more than an average L3 player unfortunately, but when fit he does possess a huge amount of skill on the ball, I would love him back for a 2nd loan.

With these lads, it's what you might call Anderson syndrome... they don't look much better than Conference/Div 4 standard, but if they did we'd have no chance of signing them. What you hope is that they can then improve if coming into a the club permanently. It rarely happens you get a proper gem, so you have to make best use of the abilities they've got.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, April 19, 2018, 12:07:34

Elsnik looked fantastic before his injury but since he came back has been no more than an average L3 player unfortunately, but when fit he does possess a huge amount of skill on the ball, I would love him back for a 2nd loan.

I think he was rushed back to soon after injury and has struggled with his fitness since sadly, but will probably be a good learning curve for him


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: RobertT on Thursday, April 19, 2018, 13:22:58
I wouldn't be against signing him.... don't think he is much better than Div 4 standard, so a realistic target.  Whereeas Timi, looks a step up, so no chance of getting him.

I think he would be against us signing him though, has much loftier ambitions.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 18:27:53
Apologies as I’m sure it’s only a few pages back but is there a list of the squad and when their contracts expire?


Title: Re: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: chrisser on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 18:52:53
Apologies as I’m sure it’s only a few pages back but is there a list of the squad and when their contracts expire?
Here it is
https://www.totalswindon.com/sport/swindon-towns-contract-situation-who-might-leave-this-summer/


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Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, April 21, 2018, 19:11:03
Thanks Chrisser.

Goalkeepers: Lawrence Vigouroux (2019), Reice Charles-Cook (2019), Will Henry (2018), Stuart Moore (2018)

Defenders: Olly Lancashire (2019), Matt Taylor (2018), Matt Preston (2018), Dion Conroy (2019), Ryan McGivern (2018)

Midfielders: James Dunne (2019), Ellis Iandolo (2018), Donal McDermott (2018), Jordan Young (2019)

Strikers: Paul Mullin (2019), Luke Norris (2019), Keshi Anderson (2020), Kaiyne Woolery (2020), Marc Richards (2019)

Chris Hussey's Sheffield United contract expires in 2018

Rollin Menayese's Bristol Rovers contract is undisclosed

Kellan Gordon's Derby County contract expires in 2019

Timi Elsnik's Derby County contract expires in 2019

Ollie Banks' Oldham Athletic contract expires in 2018

Kyle Knoyle, Ben Purkiss, Chris Robertson, Amine Linganzi, Tom Smith, Tom Ouldridge and Scott Twine have not had their contract length publicly disclosed by Swindon Town.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, April 22, 2018, 09:22:41
Here we are with the usual pretty colours:

THE CURRENT SQUAD


GOALKEEPERS
1. Lawrence Vigouroux (2019) - Waterford
12. Will Henry (2018)
21. Reice Charles-Cook (2019)
28. Stuart Moore (2018)

DEFENDERS
2. Ben Purkiss (TBC)
3. Chris Hussey (Loan/2018)
4. Matt Preston (2018)
5. Chris Robertson (TBC)
6. Olly Lancashire (2019)
23. Joe Romanski (TBC)
24. Kyle Knoyle (TBC)
25. Dion Conroy (2019)
32. Rollin Menayese (Loan/TBC)
34. Ryan McGivern (2018)

MIDFIELDERS
7. Paul Mullin (2019)
8. James Dunne (2019)
14. Ellis Iandolo (2018)
15. Tom Smith (TBC) - Bath City
16. Amine Linganzi (TBC)
18. Donal McDermott (2018)
19. Timi Max Elsnik (loan/2019)
26. Jordan Young (2019)
29. Ollie Banks (Loan/2018)
31. Matthew Taylor (2018)
--. Tommy Ouldridge (TBC) - Cirencester Town

FORWARDS
9. Luke Norris (2019)
17. Marc Richards (2019)
22. Kaiyne Woolery (2020)
27. Scott Twine (TBC)
30. Keshi Anderson (2020)


NOTE: There may be some errors.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, April 22, 2018, 09:23:51
Looking ahead, The goalkeepers (Moore aside) and forwards could stay how how they right now. I don't even think that would be the end of the world either. Under the right management, there are clean sheets and goals with the current lot involved.

Tighter defence and we'd be way, way higher up the table (which most failing sides will be saying) - that's why I'd axe the majority of those out-of-contract.

Contract wise I'd keep:


Matthew Taylor - Essential. Even if he plays half the games he has this season
Kyle Knoyle - Done enough to merit at least one more year within the First Team Squad
Ellis Iandolo - That would probably be his last chance to cement a place
Scott Twine - Keep him in the fringes. Plenty of time for him
Joe Romanski - Keep him in the fringes. Plenty of time for him
Tom Smith - For all of the 'HERE MUST BE IN THE SWINDON SIDE' outrage, he's now had a full season of regular football. Town might benefit from that.

I'd release:
* Assuming they're on 1-year deals.

Stuart Moore - Only here because of the Flitcroft/Vigouroux fall out
Ryan McGivern - Only here because of injuries, not done a great deal to merit a new deal
Ben Purkiss* - Isn't ageing as well as Matthew Taylor
Chris Robertson* - He's probably already left the building
Matt Preston* - Wouldn't be unhappy with him staying but I have a feeling he's not sticking around regardless. I imagine he'd be a target for Mansfield.
Amine Linganzi* - Injuries
Donal McDermot* - Injuries and caters too much to Flitcroft's world
Tommy Ouldridge* - Mistreated by Flitcroft (or whoever bombed out Smith, Evans, Ouldridge and Simpson) - wouldn't be against him coming back for pre-season but you'd probably think that he's done.

I also wouldn't keep any of the current loan players.

Timi Elsnik was great... and then injuries ended that
Ollie Banks started well and then that form fizzled away
Chris Hussey missed too much for me to be that positive if he did join
Rollin Menayese isn't good enough

If Town started pre-season with the below Then I'd say, we'd be in an okay position to improve from this seasons non-starter:

GOALKEEPERS
Lawrence Vigouroux
Will Henry
Reice Charles-Cook

DEFENDERS
Olly Lancashire
Joe Romanski
Kyle Knoyle
Dion Conroy

MIDFIELDERS
James Dunne
Ellis Iandolo
Tom Smith
Jordan Young
Matthew Taylor

FORWARDS
Paul Mullin
Luke Norris
Marc Richards
Kaiyne Woolery
Scott Twine
Keshi Anderson

Then it really is a case of Lee Power ensuring that he's appointing the right man for the job... and arranging a pre-season schedule.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, April 22, 2018, 09:36:27
Can’t agree about the strikers. Norris is good for 12 max including pens, not good enough. Can’t expect to rely on Richards. Woolery and Anderson have shown very little.

At times we’ve pumped a lot of crosses into the box with very little result. I’d go for a Harry Smith type - size wise.

The problem is that those players still under contract for next year are, mainly, the ones who need shifting. But who is going to want them? If they remain, on the fringes, the supposed disharmony in the squad could remain.

Preston and Conroy are must stays for me. The loans can all go back.

If Brown does stay, I’d assume he must have had assurances from Power about budget. So on that basis I’d like him to stay. If he legs it I’d like a player manager type. Craig Bellamy appeals to me.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, April 22, 2018, 09:49:37
Bellamy would be great, if only because he turned down the Pox.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, April 22, 2018, 09:58:43
Here he is with Power’s new youngster intake

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qOwtA7S-zDc


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, April 22, 2018, 10:36:23
Can’t agree about the strikers. Norris is good for 12 max including pens, not good enough. Can’t expect to rely on Richards. Woolery and Anderson have shown very little.

Anderson makes me wonder whether he wanted to sign permanently in the first place. Woolery’s form matches the form we were warned about from Wigan fans.

However, I’ve seen enough of both to think that the right manager could get a tune out of them.

I do concede that I might be overly optimistic on both fronts.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Sunday, April 22, 2018, 11:37:37
Let's hope you aren't.

To say I've been underwhelmed by Anderson is an understatement.

Woolery is like a 'worth a punt' signing, a Kaid Mohammed. No problem with that, other than he reportedly cost 10x the normal punt value.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, April 22, 2018, 11:45:47
The main reason I’d want Brown to stay is that he has witnessed first hand the utter crap we have within the squad. Who the bottlers are. Who the bad apples are.

A new fella may feel he has to give them another chance.

God help us all!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Sunday, April 22, 2018, 14:23:40
Must keeps for me would be Vigs, Preston, Conroy, Knoyle, Taylor, Richards, Smith, Young, Twine & Woolery. Not overly bothered either way on RCC (adequate back up but nothing more), Purkiss, Lancashire, Linganzi, Anderson, Iandolo, Mullin, McDermott & Norris. Wouldn't be gutted if any of them were still here next season but certainly wouldn't be shedding any tears if any of them left. Definitely bin Moore, Henry, McGivern, Dunne & Robertson. Too soon to comment on Romanski & other youth players who may get a pro contract in the next few weeks. Haven't commented on the loans as presumably all will return to their parent clubs although would love us to be able to sign the pre injury version of Elsnik (I know it won't happen).


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Monday, April 23, 2018, 08:59:24
Not sure keeping 18 members of the current squad wold be a particularly good move, but to each his own I guess.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, April 23, 2018, 09:46:28
Not sure keeping 18 members of the current squad wold be a particularly good move, but to each his own I guess.

I looked at the Accy squad from the game when they beat us in Jan. To get a bit of an insight into how to do it. Of the lads who got on the park, 2 have been there 3 seasons... a couple of key players (no pun intended) Billy Kee and Sean McConville, both played most games this season. The defender Coneely, was on the bench.

Then 5 lads on their second year. 3 in their first year, then 3 loans.  All of them either journeymen, or from non league, the bench made up of similar, only Coneely any experience.

PB, today's Adver pinpoints that if he's here next season then he will need to move out quite a few.  It's what the Accy model sort of shows.... you need a couple of old hands, which in todays game is 3 years, a core of second season players who know the managers style and then get the missing ingredient provided by the newbies.

We could potentially do most of that but haven't got anyone of the Div 4 quality of Kee or McConville... it'll be interesting to see how good they are next home game.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, April 23, 2018, 10:43:41
We could potentially do most of that but haven't got anyone of the Div 4 quality of Kee or McConville... it'll be interesting to see how good they are next home game.
As individuals there was only one player in the Accrington team that impressed me that I would take (as an individual signing) and that was ex Town player Kayden Jackson, Kee and McConville.

But the difference is they were fitter than our players and they all wanted to play for each other, each had their own roles in the team and knew how to play those roles.

They were a team of players that would work for each other, we were a team of individuals who couldn't play as a team and looked like none really cared about playing as a team for each other.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, April 23, 2018, 11:01:05
As individuals there was only one player in the Accrington team that impressed me that I would take (as an individual signing) and that was ex Town player Kayden Jackson, Kee and McConville.

But the difference is they were fitter than our players and they all wanted to play for each other, each had their own roles in the team and knew how to play those roles.

They were a team of players that would work for each other, we were a team of individuals who couldn't play as a team and looked like none really cared about playing as a team for each other.

At the time after about 30 games there was little to chose between us and Accy.... had we nicked a point and I think they got a dodgy pen from memory, they'd have been a point better off.

The fitness thing for midweek games has been a theme through the season, at the time I couldn't quite work out how we managed to arrange 3 away games in a week including 2 mid week fixtures. I know Bambi said the FL stipulate it has to be at first available date but that doesn't seem to apply to others. For example the big game at Huish tomorrow will see the Wilits/Glos/Somerset mini league settled, but both Yeovil and FGR have had other Tuesdays available in the last 4 weeks.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Berniman on Monday, April 23, 2018, 12:33:09
Vigs, Preston, Conroy and Taylor would be the only members of the "first team" that I would be disappointed if they left.  I would be willing to give Knoyle, Mullin, Woolery, Richards and Anderson another go for next season as part of the squad.

The rest can do one..

4 players from an entire squad (one of which hasn't played and is our longest serving player, and two that have spent most of the season injured) speaks volumes for our recruitment efforts over the past 12 months.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, April 23, 2018, 12:42:26
Vigs, Preston, Conroy and Taylor would be the only members of the "first team" that I would be disappointed if they left.  I would be willing to give Knoyle, Mullin, Woolery, Richards and Anderson another go for next season as part of the squad.

The rest can do one..
Yeah I agree with that, I think it might be worth a go to try and get Banks in as hes out of contract but thats about it for me too. Although I think Linganzi shows some promise to would probably add him to the keep list too.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, April 24, 2018, 11:54:57
Yeah I agree with that, I think it might be worth a go to try and get Banks in as hes out of contract but thats about it for me too. Although I think Linganzi shows some promise to would probably add him to the keep list too.

I think we need to keep a nucleus of the squad, I think the defence with Conroy, Preston, Knoyle and maybe Mcdermott I think this has a solid potential if all stayed fit

Midfield again is a tough one as I'm not sure there are many I'd keep Tom Smith, Linganizi, Matt Taylor, Twine

Up front I would keep Woolery & Richards and maybe Anderson and get rid of Norris thus freeing up wages for a couple of new young hungry strikers

And keepers would have to be Vigs & Henry



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, April 24, 2018, 13:53:08
I think we need to keep a nucleus of the squad, I think the defence with Conroy, Preston, Knoyle and maybe Mcdermott I think this has a solid potential if all stayed fit

Midfield again is a tough one as I'm not sure there are many I'd keep Tom Smith, Linganizi, Matt Taylor, Twine

Up front I would keep Woolery & Richards and maybe Anderson and get rid of Norris thus freeing up wages for a couple of new young hungry strikers

And keepers would have to be Vigs & Henry

We've no idea how Conroy will rock up after his lay off..... remember he's an inexperienced kid. Preston is out of contract and expected to sign elsewhere probably Mansfield.  I think our young lads are about Southern league or possibly Conference south standard. Nothing wrong with that you can have a career and it is possible to make your way back up if good enough.

Our front men are all under contract.....difficult to see much a queue from elsewhere for their sevices during the summer, but I thought Conor Thomas would be difficult to shift but with new markets opening up you never know.

Vigs isn't very good.... I suppose it's just about possible that he might have learned something about being a pro.... but you have to wonder.  Fods wasn't happy when PdC took him off after about 20 mins at Prestoin, but rewalsied what he needed to do... and did it starightaway, whcih is why he's got a career at a reasonable standard.

Linganzi is a typical example of one of our Francophone players..... can look decent, but then drifts and gets injured or is absent for some reason or other.

Has Matty T got another year in him  :hmmm:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, April 25, 2018, 07:48:30
I'd be hopeful that Matt Taylor may look to stay and potentially work in some coaching form at the club in the future. He seems to be a very respected professional and i'm sure has loads to offer.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, April 25, 2018, 08:39:49
We've no idea how Conroy will rock up after his lay off..... remember he's an inexperienced kid. Preston is out of contract and expected to sign elsewhere probably Mansfield.  I think our young lads are about Southern league or possibly Conference south standard. Nothing wrong with that you can have a career and it is possible to make your way back up if good enough.

I see this statement cropping up again and again about Preston, but where is the evidence to actually support it, he appears to have no history with Flitcroft prior to Swindon, and people were always suggesting that there was some manner of Hussey/Flitcroft love in until it became clear after Flitcroft went that Hussey thought he was a wanker!

I fear for your life after making such a suggestion about the ginger Messi!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, April 25, 2018, 09:08:29
I see this statement cropping up again and again about Preston, but where is the evidence to actually support it, he appears to have no history with Flitcroft prior to Swindon, and people were always suggesting that there was some manner of Hussey/Flitcroft love in until it became clear after Flitcroft went that Hussey thought he was a wanker!

I fear for your life after making such a suggestion about the ginger Messi!

Of course it's based on conjecture... the reasoning being Preston was out of contract with Walsall, because he or his agent thought he could get better.  Flitters knew of him, signed him and got an effective player.  Preston is again out of contract, presumably again looking for a pay rise.... Mansfield spend more money than us.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, April 25, 2018, 09:21:05
Mansfield fans doubt Flip Flop will be entrusted with any funds and may well be dumped at season's end


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, April 25, 2018, 09:29:29
Mansfield fans doubt Flip Flop will be entrusted with any funds and may well be dumped at season's end

Well you never know, but Flitters would have pulled a blinder, must have got at least a 2 year contract off of Radford. Nice pay out coming his way.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: tans on Thursday, April 26, 2018, 06:52:25
Pathetic. It was a joke

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/pfa-chairman-ben-purkiss-urged-12428876.amp#click=https://t.co/m25Z1T8aZi


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, April 26, 2018, 06:58:56
what a twat


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, April 26, 2018, 09:31:18
Standard joke for such an event.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, April 26, 2018, 10:32:19
Kane does seem to be rather touchy about the issue, anyone would think he feels he got away with one in that case!  :D


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Thursday, April 26, 2018, 10:35:49
Pathetic. It was a joke

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/pfa-chairman-ben-purkiss-urged-12428876.amp#click=https://t.co/m25Z1T8aZi
The sense of humour in football is now officially dead!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Thursday, April 26, 2018, 11:02:10
Kane has gone from quite likeable to being a total tool.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Berniman on Thursday, April 26, 2018, 12:14:02
And there was no way he got a touch on it, he was just desperate to hang on to the golden boot..


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, April 26, 2018, 12:20:15
Kane has gone from quite likeable to being a total tool.

The Mirror haven't helped mind.

Quote from: purkiss in the mirror article
"I contacted Harry to explain my comments and he stated that he had not taken offence to my comments.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Thursday, April 26, 2018, 13:14:18
Haha Harry Kane , everyone has been giving you jibes about claiming goals that aren't yours. It's pretty fresh when a player who I had respect for now says post match comments like (being asked about a very harsh penalty  decision in his favour) "Well, I felt contact, so I went down. I mean, that's just football."

Yeah, fuck off.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Power to people on Friday, April 27, 2018, 11:59:16
Of course it's based on conjecture... the reasoning being Preston was out of contract with Walsall, because he or his agent thought he could get better.  Flitters knew of him, signed him and got an effective player.  Preston is again out of contract, presumably again looking for a pay rise.... Mansfield spend more money than us.

I believe from what I recall he was out of contract and they could not afford to keep him and a.n other player and decided to keep the other player and not Preston, nothing to do with him or his agent wanting more money but Walsall's finances.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, April 27, 2018, 12:03:55
I believe from what I recall he was out of contract and they could not afford to keep him and a.n other player and decided to keep the other player and not Preston, nothing to do with him or his agent wanting more money but Walsall's finances.

 "Twenty-two-year-old Preston joins arrives at the County Ground on a contract until the end of the season.

The Birmingham-born defender left Walsall over the summer after failing to agree terms on a two-year contract."


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Power to people on Friday, April 27, 2018, 15:26:08
"Twenty-two-year-old Preston joins arrives at the County Ground on a contract until the end of the season.

The Birmingham-born defender left Walsall over the summer after failing to agree terms on a two-year contract."

I stand corrected...should never trust my memory  :)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Friday, April 27, 2018, 20:40:56
We could do worse than sign this geezer up. Multi roll. Ham, cheese definitely not salad though.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JrCP973nkNY


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, April 28, 2018, 19:18:14
This thread'll do.

Tom Smith got 11 goals this season apparently. I know it's at Bath City and all that, but if he weren't ours you'd be thinking he might be worth a punt.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, April 28, 2018, 19:25:34
Well, Mayo was at Weston super Mare and he’s not really out of his depth. Can’t think of many Town carrot tops.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, April 28, 2018, 19:28:46
Any mild outrage regarding Smith's exile in the National League South is largely irrelevant now.

Instead, we should consider his loan spell a success and a benefit to Swindon Town. Much better than 20 odd unused subs and a bunch of development fixtures.

Give him a 2-year deal and see how he does.

If we don't then we'll all end up annoyed when he joins FGR and scores against Town...

 :toocool:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, April 28, 2018, 19:51:04
Reice Charles-Cook dropped for missing training, twice.

------------

Obvious joke(s) klaxon


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Monday, April 30, 2018, 17:52:52
I wonder when we'll hear which YTS lads will be offered pro contracts. It's normally announced around about now. & more importantly, who will be making the decisions  :hmmm:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, May 1, 2018, 07:57:19
I see Brown has said he will reintegrate Vigs if he gets the job permanently. Looks like the door for RCC, too. He must surely be nailed on for the job.

Yet another Brown statement containing references to DNA!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, May 1, 2018, 08:43:50
I see Brown has said he will reintegrate Vigs if he gets the job permanently. Looks like the door for RCC, too. He must surely be nailed on for the job.

Yet another Brown statement containing references to DNA!

Oh well at least it will give some pantomime fun to next season when Vigs falls out with him as well, he dealt with Ranger so will have experience of dealing with pains in the arse....

Perhaps the DNA references are all part of an evil masterplan from Power to start cloning players....


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, May 1, 2018, 08:59:15
Even better, he should try Eugenics and/or gene splicing. Maybe that's what the elusive training camp is really all about?



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, May 1, 2018, 09:00:39
Seems fitting if we want European domination.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 1, 2018, 09:18:11
cloning players,  what use will an army of mid table division 4 footballers be?

anyone, anyone?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, May 1, 2018, 09:26:49
cloning players,  what use will an army of mid table division 4 footballers be?

anyone, anyone?

They could be turned into plaster of Paris replicas, like the Terracotta Army at Buscot Park....

(http://s0.geograph.org.uk/geophotos/02/03/41/2034138_afc8ba2b.jpg)

Then used as a walkway around the CG extension and the green bit on Shrivenham Road....


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, May 1, 2018, 09:49:37
cloning players,  what use will an army of mid table division 4 footballers be?

anyone, anyone?

We all dream of a team of Tom Smiths.... They may also have kept some Miles Storey DNA, the champions league beckons....


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, May 2, 2018, 19:14:24
I know our defence has come in for all sorts of criticism this season, but Roma . . .

Jesus wept


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Wednesday, May 2, 2018, 19:34:16
I know our defence has come in for all sorts of criticism this season, but Roma . . .

Jesus wept

You know AB, i’m thinking the same thing. Garden sieve springs to mind. Especially when you look at the level of football on display. Are Roma that bad or are the scouse making them look that bad?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, May 2, 2018, 19:41:08
Loose midfield pass and a poor defensive header both lead to goals. Sounds just like us.

Scoring goals is the hardest thing. Giving them away is criminal.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, May 2, 2018, 19:48:01
I've turned over to Aldershot v ebbsfleet.

0-0, 87 mins, Fabien Robert is playing.

the conference playoff system is a joke


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, May 2, 2018, 19:55:56
I've turned over to Aldershot v ebbsfleet.

0-0, 87 mins, Fabien Robert is playing.

the conference playoff system is a joke

I'd rather not find out....


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, May 3, 2018, 13:31:14
Banks for the memories.. or not

PB 🗣️ | "Ollie Banks won't play on Saturday. He's gone back to his parent club. He opened up and said that the players in the dressing room let me down."


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: tans on Thursday, May 3, 2018, 13:51:35
Chris Hussey five match suspension and a fine after the Anthony joshua rerun at newport


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 3, 2018, 14:09:01
PB "Matty Preston has trained all week and he's pushing for a start, but we've got to be careful with him. Dion Conroy has also trained, but non-contact."


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Thursday, May 3, 2018, 14:12:09
Would seem pointless playing Preston. Let him rest up.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, May 3, 2018, 14:13:15
Chris Hussey five match suspension and a fine after the Anthony joshua rerun at newport

This may sound like a stupid question but is that a Swindon suspension or a league suspension?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 3, 2018, 14:18:23
Would seem pointless playing Preston. Let him rest up.
I don't think for one minute he will start Saturday, that would be silly even though its a meaningless game for us.

This may sound like a stupid question but is that a Swindon suspension or a league suspension?
I can't see anything on the OS, he has apologised on FB for it, if its 5 games Swindon ban then would that suggest he could sign for us next season on a perm?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, May 3, 2018, 14:22:27
I don't think for one minute he will start Saturday, that would be silly even though its a meaningless game for us.
I can't see anything on the OS, he has apologised on FB for it, if its 5 games Swindon ban then would that suggest he could sign for us next season on a perm?

We could finish 9th or 12th, I know which I'd rather.  Hussey's ban will just carry over to whatever club he gets next season


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, May 3, 2018, 14:34:30
does anyone else really care, 9th, 12th it's all the same


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, May 3, 2018, 14:38:24
does anyone else really care, 9th, 12th it's all the same

I'd hope the players, staff and owner would....even if as you suggest fans don't.  The aim at the start of the season is to finish as hign as you can... lose sight of that and you really are in trouble.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 3, 2018, 15:50:34
This may sound like a stupid question but is that a Swindon suspension or a league suspension?
It was the FA.

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/swindon_town_2014/16203293.Hussey_s_Town_spell_ends_after_hefty_FA_ban/


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, May 3, 2018, 15:53:03
https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2018/may/hussey-given-suspension/


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: @mwooly63 on Thursday, May 3, 2018, 15:58:05
Banks for the memories.. or not

PB 🗣️ | "Ollie Banks won't play on Saturday. He's gone back to his parent club. He opened up and said that the players in the dressing room let me down."

ASD on FB said that was mis reported. Players let the manager down. Will be an academy player making a debut in Banks place


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, May 3, 2018, 16:06:06
Joe Romanski, Paolo Giamattei, Oliver Rejek and Sol Pryce could all be involved at the weekend


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: newmarket red on Thursday, May 3, 2018, 17:03:58
Give them ago at least they will try,wouldnt mind seeing the youngster martinez but he might be still young to play.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: tans on Friday, May 4, 2018, 09:28:26
From the rumour mill:

Academy players Luke Haines and Jordan Edwards to be involved in Saturday . One of which could start


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, May 4, 2018, 11:23:21
PB was very complimentary about Conroy and, in particular, Preston. Said he's looking forward to working with MP next season, in more words.

So they're both going to Mansfield.....?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Posh Red on Saturday, May 5, 2018, 14:14:58
Someone here spoke to Linganzi before the game and Linganzi said he wouldn’t be here next season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, May 5, 2018, 14:31:07
Someone here spoke to Linganzi before the game and Linganzi said he wouldn’t be here next season.

If that was true I doubt he’d be playing today.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Posh Red on Saturday, May 5, 2018, 14:46:03
If that was true I doubt he’d be playing today.

Why, if we choose not to offer him a new contract


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, May 5, 2018, 14:47:14
Why, if we choose not to offer him a new contract

Would it not make more sense if that was the case to play a youth instead? If he’s not in our plans then playing him today has no logic (at least to me)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, May 5, 2018, 16:07:05
Someone here spoke to Linganzi before the game and Linganzi said he wouldn’t be here next season.
He was going round shaking loads of fans hands after the game it seemed a bit like a goodbye.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Saturday, May 5, 2018, 16:35:06
Quote from: Bob's Orange
Quote
Why, if we choose not to offer him a new contract
Would it not make more sense if that was the case to play a youth instead? If he’s not in our plans then playing him today has no logic (at least to me)
that true of playing mayo and bringing Elsnik on too.

I don't think there was much logic, Brown just wanted to win


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, May 5, 2018, 16:52:44
Would it not make more sense if that was the case to play a youth instead? If he’s not in our plans then playing him today has no logic (at least to me)
that true of playing mayo and bringing Elsnik on too.

I don't think there was much logic, Brown just wanted to win
Indeed, I think you could tell he was after the win by the side he played from the KO, but then Accrington played their strongest starting 11 today so were after a win too, and I guess thats what football is all about.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, May 6, 2018, 18:52:18
Retained season is here. Who are you releasing, transfer listing and offering deals to...?

THE CURRENT SQUAD


GOALKEEPERS
1. Lawrence Vigouroux (2019)
12. Will Henry (2018)
21. Reice Charles-Cook (2019)
28. Stuart Moore (2018)

DEFENDERS
2. Ben Purkiss (TBC)
4. Matt Preston (2018)
5. Chris Robertson (TBC)
6. Olly Lancashire (2019)
23. Joe Romanski (TBC)
24. Kyle Knoyle (TBC)
25. Dion Conroy (2019)
34. Ryan McGivern (2018)

MIDFIELDERS
8. James Dunne (2019)
14. Ellis Iandolo (2018)
15. Tom Smith (TBC)
16. Amine Linganzi (TBC)
18. Donal McDermott (2018)
26. Jordan Young (2019)
31. Matthew Taylor (2018)
35. Jordan Edwards (TBC)
--. Tommy Ouldridge (TBC)

FORWARDS
7. Paul Mullin (2019)
9. Luke Norris (2019)
17. Marc Richards (2019)
22. Kaiyne Woolery (2020)
27. Scott Twine (TBC)
30. Keshi Anderson (2020)



NOTE: There may be some errors.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: kirky69 on Sunday, May 6, 2018, 20:04:46
Retained season is here. Who are you releasing, transfer listing and offering deals to...?

THE CURRENT SQUAD


GOALKEEPERS
1. Lawrence Vigouroux (2019) keep
12. Will Henry (2018) release
21. Reice Charles-Cook (2019) transfer list as doesn't dominate area
28. Stuart Moore (2018) offer contract as improved, better potential than RCC

DEFENDERS
2. Ben Purkiss (TBC) release
4. Matt Preston (2018) offer contract
5. Chris Robertson (TBC) release
6. Olly Lancashire (2019) keep
23. Joe Romanski (TBC) keep
24. Kyle Knoyle (TBC) offer contract
25. Dion Conroy (2019) keep
34. Ryan McGivern (2018) offer contract

MIDFIELDERS
8. James Dunne (2019) transfer list
14. Ellis Iandolo (2018) release
15. Tom Smith (TBC) keep
16. Amine Linganzi (TBC) release
18. Donal McDermott (2018) release
26. Jordan Young (2019) keep
31. Matthew Taylor (2018) offer contract as player coach
35. Jordan Roberts (TBC) not seen
--. Tommy Ouldridge (TBC) not seen

FORWARDS
7. Paul Mullin (2019) transfer list
9. Luke Norris (2019) transfer list
17. Marc Richards (2019) keep
22. Kaiyne Woolery (2020) keep unless attitude issue in dressing room
27. Scott Twine (TBC) offer contract
30. Keshi Anderson (2020) keep unless attitude issue in dressing room



NOTE: There may be some errors.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, May 7, 2018, 14:37:29
Agree with most of those but strongly disagree on Mullin. Would definitely keep him and would like to see him get used a lot more next season. First name on the team sheet for me.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 7, 2018, 14:50:57
I'd definitely sell Anderson and/or Woolery if the chance came up. I'd rather keep Norris..


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Monday, May 7, 2018, 14:57:58
I'd definitely sell Anderson and/or Woolery if the chance came up. I'd rather keep Norris..
Seconded.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: hefty toe on Monday, May 7, 2018, 15:23:55
Forest Green will probably still be interested in Woolery.  We'd have to take a big loss though.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, May 7, 2018, 15:29:31
According to some on the forum they are after Andy Williams from Donny and Chris Hussey.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: THE FLASH on Monday, May 7, 2018, 16:08:24
Seconded.

Thirded ....Woolery one of the biggest disappointments for me.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Berniman on Monday, May 7, 2018, 18:29:17
Wasn't Tommy Ouldridge released?  I am sure I saw his old man having a pop on twitter about how he had been treated..


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, May 7, 2018, 18:42:53
Wasn't Tommy Ouldridge released?  I am sure I saw his old man having a pop on twitter about how he had been treated..

There have been plenty of digs but he was still at Ciren on loan from Town.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, May 7, 2018, 19:01:46
He was going to be released but he ended up being given a contract.

From memory, it was his own fault that he was nearly released. He was offered a contract and chose to dick about instead of signing it (I blame his agent). When the club then chose to withdraw the offer he kicked off about it. I think Flitcroft had just started and decided against it at first.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Anteater on Monday, May 7, 2018, 19:19:16
I'd definitely sell Anderson and/or Woolery if the chance came up. I'd rather keep Norris..
WTF !!! Am I being wooshed ???


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 7, 2018, 19:24:39
Quote from: Anteater
Quote
I'd definitely sell Anderson and/or Woolery if the chance came up. I'd rather keep Norris..
WTF !!! Am I being wooshed ???


no. Anderson had been 80% shit and Woolery may have a bit of potential, but not seen much to turn down an offer.

Norris I'd say was a squad player.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Anteater on Monday, May 7, 2018, 19:45:34
WTF !!! Am I being wooshed ???


no. Anderson had been 80% shit and Woolery may have a bit of potential, but not seen much to turn down an offer.

Norris I'd say was a squad player.
All about opinions but don't agree with any of that !
Woolery and Anderson both could have done better (would question our managers best use of them) but still have the potential, Norris (bar penalties) is shocking and I can't understand the love for him. Never slagged him off at games (not into that regarding any of our players), both Woolery and Mullin should have been ahead in the pecking order partnering Richards once he was with us.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Saxondale on Monday, May 7, 2018, 19:49:49
I thought Woolery was the real deal on the first game against Exeter.  Looked like he was going to bang in an absolute load in this league.  How wrong I was.  Hasn't moved on at all.  Bad coaching?  Who knows.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, May 7, 2018, 19:52:41
A lot of people were happy when we signed Anderson permanently


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Monday, May 7, 2018, 19:52:48
I'm with Batch. Anderson has been shit, was decent Saturday but shit otherwise. Is not strong enough on the ball, decision making is crap and runs into dead ends that are totally avoidable. Wollery had a good cameo v Exeter at home and other than that was crap. Very fast and starting to use his body more but has the finishing ability of Shaun Close and the worst decision making I have seen for a long time in a forward. I would question whether either can improve enough. Also, I believe Anderson is a total cock.
Norris, however, offers more to the team. Its a shame he is a bad finisher.  He brings people into the game, wins tackles in midfield and headers in our box. He is a team player. I'm not alone on saying he'd make a better centre half.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Anteater on Monday, May 7, 2018, 19:55:59
If Woolery doesn't end up the real deal for us and we get rid then I predict he will end up doing it for someone else and no doubt against us at some point !
Norris being touted as a potential centre half says it all really.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 8, 2018, 06:16:58
I don't rate Norris that highly fwiw. just think he gives us more than the other two.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, May 8, 2018, 10:03:27
A lot of people were happy when we signed Anderson permanently

Yep, I was one of them. We were wrong


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, May 8, 2018, 10:08:16
DAMN YOU AND YOUR WRONGNESS!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, May 8, 2018, 10:36:28
GOALKEEPERS
1. Lawrence Vigouroux (2019) - Number 1
12. Will Henry (2018) - Extend and get him a proper, season-long in the conference
21. Reice Charles-Cook (2019) - Bin if possible
28. Stuart Moore (2018) - Number 2

DEFENDERS
2. Ben Purkiss (TBC) - meh
4. Matt Preston (2018) - 3 year deal please
5. Chris Robertson (TBC) - bin if poss
6. Olly Lancashire (2019) - keep
23. Joe Romanski (TBC) - sure he'll be around as a kid
24. Kyle Knoyle (TBC) - offer a long-term contract if he's out.
25. Dion Conroy (2019) - keep
34. Ryan McGivern (2018) - meh

MIDFIELDERS
8. James Dunne (2019) - fine
14. Ellis Iandolo (2018) - extend for a year
15. Tom Smith (TBC) - extend for a year and actually let him push for the first team.
16. Amine Linganzi (TBC) - bin
18. Donal McDermott (2018) - extend for a year
26. Jordan Young (2019) - keep
31. Matthew Taylor (2018) - extend for a year
35. Jordan Roberts (TBC) - I don't know who this is? A kid I'm assuming?
--. Tommy Ouldridge (TBC) - don't care

FORWARDS
7. Paul Mullin (2019) - fine
9. Luke Norris (2019) - fine
17. Marc Richards (2019) - fine
22. Kaiyne Woolery (2020) - fine
27. Scott Twine (TBC) - presumably will have a part to play
30. Keshi Anderson (2020) - fine

So...

Not much flex available, and it could be argued needed, in the final third but overall defensively and in midfield a must - hoping for something like:

LV
Moore
Henry

Knoyle
NEW RB/CB
Purkiss
Preston
Conroy
Lancashire
New LB
M Taylor

McDermott
New Winger 1
James Dunne
New CM 1
New CM 2
T Smith
Iandolo
New Winger 2
New Winger 3

Mullin
Keshi
Norris
Richards
Woolery

Then Twine, Young an active part of the squad, couple of other kids on the fringes for JPT.

6-7 signings away from having a really decent squad, if those additions are of sufficient quality.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, May 8, 2018, 14:51:14
STFC Rumour Mill

 
@STFC_Rumours
 18m18 minutes ago
More
Sol Pryce offered first professional contract by club


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, May 8, 2018, 15:01:09
STFC Rumour Mill

 
@STFC_Rumours
 18m18 minutes ago
More
Sol Pryce offered first professional contract by club
Good luck to him, captain of our U18s and physically a fairly well built striker who has scored a few for the youths this season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, May 8, 2018, 17:21:44
Well done to Kyle Knoyle making the L2 Team of the Week.

Got a good ‘un there, I reckon. Who was responsible for his signing?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, May 8, 2018, 17:31:22
I think Kyle Knoyle will go on to better things, hes been a solid performer in almost every game I have seen him play.

He was rated highly as a youth at West Ham and tipped to make their first team but only made 1 sub appearance, luckily we got in there before anyone else grabbed him.

Have to get him signed on for longer term than he is IMO.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, May 8, 2018, 19:54:40
There is an awkwardness about him, but he has improved under Brown, by quite a stretch as well.  He looks a real threat now and doesn't look lost in defence.  His crossing in the last couple of games has probably been better than Taylor, who got a bit fixated on drilling in crosses and floating corners.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Tuesday, May 8, 2018, 22:13:04
There is an awkwardness about him, but he has improved under Brown, by quite a stretch as well.  He looks a real threat now and doesn't look lost in defence.  His crossing in the last couple of games has probably been better than Taylor, who got a bit fixated on drilling in crosses and floating corners.

Yep he has improved. I think he'll progress. A big season for him coming up, I think he could become Nathan Byrne-esque. Should extend current deal.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Wednesday, May 9, 2018, 19:38:33
I think Kyle Knoyle will go on to better things, hes been a solid performer in almost every game I have seen him play.

He was rated highly as a youth at West Ham and tipped to make their first team but only made 1 sub appearance, luckily we got in there before anyone else grabbed him.

Have to get him signed on for longer term than he is IMO.

Hopefully there is an option for an extension for KK.

This got to me to thinking when was the last time that a first teamer was offered and actually signed a new contract.
Nathan Thompson possibly, a few years ago?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 9, 2018, 19:50:44
Hopefully there is an option for an extension for KK.

This got to me to thinking when was the last time that a first teamer was offered and actually signed a new contract.
Nathan Thompson possibly, a few years ago?
Now that is an interesting question, to which I have no idea, you could well be right with NT.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Posh Red on Wednesday, May 9, 2018, 20:04:57
Hopefully there is an option for an extension for KK.

This got to me to thinking when was the last time that a first teamer was offered and actually signed a new contract.
Nathan Thompson possibly, a few years ago?

To be fair though once Black left we stopped paying silly wages, so I’d imagine nobody was going to sign again on lower wages.

Added to that having qualified for two playoff finals and lost the better players are likely to have offers at a higher level and many of the others we probably didn’t want to keep.

I can’t imagine there’s too many of the current crop that will be in demand elsewhere so maybe we will keep more of the ones we want to keep.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Thursday, May 10, 2018, 21:24:31
GOALKEEPERS
1. Lawrence Vigouroux (2019) - Number 1
12. Will Henry (2018) - Extend and get him a proper, season-long in the conference
21. Reice Charles-Cook (2019) - Bin if possible
28. Stuart Moore (2018) - Number 2

DEFENDERS
2. Ben Purkiss (TBC) - meh
4. Matt Preston (2018) - 3 year deal please
5. Chris Robertson (TBC) - bin if poss
6. Olly Lancashire (2019) - keep
23. Joe Romanski (TBC) - sure he'll be around as a kid
24. Kyle Knoyle (TBC) - offer a long-term contract if he's out.
25. Dion Conroy (2019) - keep
34. Ryan McGivern (2018) - meh

MIDFIELDERS
8. James Dunne (2019) - fine
14. Ellis Iandolo (2018) - extend for a year
15. Tom Smith (TBC) - extend for a year and actually let him push for the first team.
16. Amine Linganzi (TBC) - bin
18. Donal McDermott (2018) - extend for a year
26. Jordan Young (2019) - keep
31. Matthew Taylor (2018) - extend for a year
35. Jordan Roberts (TBC) - I don't know who this is? A kid I'm assuming?
--. Tommy Ouldridge (TBC) - don't care

FORWARDS
7. Paul Mullin (2019) - fine
9. Luke Norris (2019) - fine
17. Marc Richards (2019) - fine
22. Kaiyne Woolery (2020) - fine
27. Scott Twine (TBC) - presumably will have a part to play
30. Keshi Anderson (2020) - fine

So...

Not much flex available, and it could be argued needed, in the final third but overall defensively and in midfield a must - hoping for something like:

LV
Moore
Henry

Knoyle
NEW RB/CB
Purkiss
Preston
Conroy
Lancashire
New LB
M Taylor

McDermott
New Winger 1
James Dunne
New CM 1
New CM 2
T Smith
Iandolo
New Winger 2
New Winger 3

Mullin
Keshi
Norris
Richards
Woolery

Then Twine, Young an active part of the squad, couple of other kids on the fringes for JPT.

6-7 signings away from having a really decent squad, if those additions are of sufficient quality.

Agree with pretty much all of that Panda although I'd be looking to offload Dunne & Norris (for free if need be, although we'd presumably get a small fee for Norris given he's our top scorer & we managed to get fees for Brophy & Goddard in Jan).


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: tans on Friday, May 11, 2018, 06:09:35
Rumour mill says Iandolo has a new deal


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Friday, May 11, 2018, 06:39:46
Rumour mill says Iandolo has a new deal

Yours or respected third parties?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Costanza on Friday, May 11, 2018, 06:57:16
Rumour mill says Iandolo has a new deal

A few, including Ellis, have left the country on their holidays.

I think they all know their fates.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Berniman on Friday, May 11, 2018, 07:11:03
He was going to be released but he ended up being given a contract.

From memory, it was his own fault that he was nearly released. He was offered a contract and chose to dick about instead of signing it (I blame his agent). When the club then chose to withdraw the offer he kicked off about it. I think Flitcroft had just started and decided against it at first.

I am talking about in the last few weeks, not the start of the season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: hefty toe on Friday, May 11, 2018, 08:48:28
I do hope that Iandolo, T.Smith, Twine and J.Young feature a bit more next season. 


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Tails on Friday, May 11, 2018, 08:51:56
He was going to be released but he ended up being given a contract.

From memory, it was his own fault that he was nearly released. He was offered a contract and chose to dick about instead of signing it (I blame his agent). When the club then chose to withdraw the offer he kicked off about it. I think Flitcroft had just started and decided against it at first.

His dad had a big part to play in this, apparently. He very publicly kicked off about it.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, May 11, 2018, 09:18:23
Mullin seems to think he'll be here next season, and I suppose he would be privvy to such information.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Quagmire on Friday, May 11, 2018, 09:31:05
Mullin seems to think he'll be here next season, and I suppose he would be privvy to such information.
I’d like to see him given a good run of games upfront at the start of next season, I think he could get quite a few goals.

Also, defensively, I really hope Preston stays and him a Conroy both stay fit with no ill affects of the injuries. A back 4 with Knoyle, Conroy and Preston in with Vigouroux behind them looks very good for next season already.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, May 11, 2018, 09:45:00
I’d like to see him given a good run of games upfront at the start of next season, I think he could get quite a few goals.
I think Mullin has struggled a bit because he doesn't seem to have a best position, he can fill in on both wings, centre forward and sat behind the main striker.

At times he has looked outstanding, always willing to run and chase things and his finishing has been pretty good too but he needs a run in the team in a position where he can do the most damage.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, May 11, 2018, 10:05:43
I’d like to see him given a good run of games upfront at the start of next season, I think he could get quite a few goals.

Also, defensively, I really hope Preston stays and him a Conroy both stay fit with no ill affects of the injuries. A back 4 with Knoyle, Conroy and Preston in with Vigouroux behind them looks very good for next season already.

In theory yes, but a lot of variables.  I think it more likely that Lancashire will be the main man.

 Vigs has an awful lot to do. It is to be hoped that he may have grown up a bit, and so a fresh start with a clean slate is fair enough, and PB no doubt thinks, if he can handle Nile, then Vigs is a puppy.

 


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Quagmire on Friday, May 11, 2018, 10:08:51
If Lancashire’s injury is a bad as Brown has said it is, I’d be surprised if he manages 15 games.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, May 11, 2018, 10:15:39
Richards also seems to be suggesting he'll be here next season


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, May 11, 2018, 10:17:38
If Lancashire’s injury is a bad as Brown has said it is, I’d be surprised if he manages 15 games.

Of course, injuries can ruin the best laid plans.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Friday, May 11, 2018, 13:19:10
On a separate note, why do so many fans long for a return for Sendles-White? He was shipped out by Orient for god sake


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, May 11, 2018, 13:20:45
I'm in no way arguing for his return but wasn't he quite handy before his injury?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Costanza on Friday, May 11, 2018, 13:21:02
On a separate note, why do so many fans long for a return for Sendles-White?

He has a lovely smile.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, May 11, 2018, 13:24:53
I'm in no way arguing for his return but wasn't he quite handy before his injury?

He was one of those centre halves more comfortable witn the ball, than a stick your head in row Z merchant.  There are those who pine for Luke style possession football.

Me, I'd rather have a hoofer in Div 4, and judging by what PB has said about central defenders not prepared to head the ball so will he.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Friday, May 11, 2018, 13:26:19
I'm in no way arguing for his return but wasn't he quite handy before his injury?
In my humble estimation he was crap. Would add nothing and we can do a lot better. Weren't there one or two disciplinary issues? Unlucky to get injured and another one of those players whose absence makers them look better.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, May 11, 2018, 13:33:01
According to Brown, we have a number of verbal and written offers in for players which should be revealed in 7 to 10 days before they all fuck off on holiday.

That quick enough for some?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Friday, May 11, 2018, 13:41:22
According to Brown, we have a number of verbal and written offers in for players which should be revealed in 7 to 10 days before they all fuck off on holiday.

That quick enough for some?

That'll be fine by me. As long as one quoted isn't Theo Robinson  :soapy tit wank:

Seems like PB is bridging that communication gap. Yes he loves to talk. DF liked to talk shit but didn't want to get caught out so we heard little from him other than the same stuff he repeated every match "microwave" anyone? *ping*


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, May 11, 2018, 13:58:10
On a separate note, why do so many fans long for a return for Sendles-White? He was shipped out by Orient for god sake
I was unaware that there was any fans longing for his return, but then I don't check tw@tter often or THAT FB group.

I am guessing a lot of people are saying things because he was interviewed on BBC Wilts pre game on Saturday saying that he has "unfinished business at Swindon" and that he would "love to return to the club".

Unlikely we would sign him again at the moment until he has fully proved his fitness anyway, hes only played 11 games for St Albans since coming back from his latest injury that had a hand in Orient releasing him, along with some discipline issues when he confronted several Orient fans in a heated exchange after a match.



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 11, 2018, 13:58:38
Quote from: Audrey's Bellend
According to Brown, we have a number of verbal and written offers in for players which should be revealed in 7 to 10 days before they all fuck off on holiday.

That quick enough for some?

perfectly excellent


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, May 11, 2018, 14:03:59
perfectly excellent
Indeed, that has an elegance of adequacy.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: pauld on Friday, May 11, 2018, 14:54:46
he has "unfinished business at Swindon" and that he would "love to return to the club" ....some discipline issues when he confronted several Orient fans in a heated exchange after a match.
Maybe he wants to come back because he feels he was cheated of the chance to go Hussey on our fans post-match?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, May 11, 2018, 15:02:20
Maybe he wants to come back because he feels he was cheated of the chance to go Hussey on our fans post-match?

(https://i.imgflip.com/2a2w2q.jpg)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, May 11, 2018, 19:19:08
So, is it right that RCC, Purkiss and Hussey (although a loan which I presume we could have made perm) have been binned.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Costanza on Friday, May 11, 2018, 19:23:39
So, is it right that RCC, Purkiss and Hussey (although a loan which I presume we could have made perm) have been binned.

Hussey was sent home before the Accrington game. He's since been let go by Sheffield United.

RCC and Purkiss are just rumours at the moment.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Friday, May 11, 2018, 22:18:01
I've not seen this posted anywhere else...I didn't look that hard to be honest... but the rumour mill says the following... (and I know people keep going on about it but I've not known it to be wrong yet....)

Gut says.
RCC
Purkiss
Robertson
Henry
Linganzi
McDermott
McGivern

Released.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Friday, May 11, 2018, 22:19:38
On a separate note, why do so many fans long for a return for Sendles-White? He was shipped out by Orient for god sake
I thought he was really good for us.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Saturday, May 12, 2018, 06:36:32
I thought Charles Cook has another year on his deal?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, May 12, 2018, 06:48:18
I thought Charles Cook has another year on his deal?

Me too.

That Rumour twitter account posted "I'm told Reice Charles-Cook has been told to find himself a new club" which suggests it's not a simple end of contract situation.

I'm sure if the feeling is amicable then RCC and STFC will reach an agreement to end whatever is happening behind the scenes.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Saturday, May 12, 2018, 09:08:57
Me too.

That Rumour twitter account posted "I'm told Reice Charles-Cook has been told to find himself a new club" which suggests it's not a simple end of contract situation.

I'm sure if the feeling is amicable then RCC and STFC will reach an agreement to end whatever is happening behind the scenes.

Makes you wonder if he did have a 2YC why the issues with him arose. If what has been reported about RCC is correct you could understand that PB may not be keen to keep him if he knew that LV was waiting in the wings to make a fresh start back at SN1.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, May 12, 2018, 09:30:23
I thought Charles Cook has another year on his deal?

Apparently he was offered the extension but dropped the pen when trying to sign.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Saturday, May 12, 2018, 09:40:47
Apparently he was offered the extension but dropped the pen when trying to sign.

Fuck me that made me laugh, seriously an old one but a golden one.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Saturday, May 12, 2018, 09:46:38
Apparently he was offered the extension but dropped the pen when trying to sign.
Or maybe they drew a line and put the contract 6 foot in the air a yard off the line.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: DiV on Saturday, May 12, 2018, 11:13:20
I think Mullin has struggled a bit because he doesn't seem to have a best position, he can fill in on both wings, centre forward and sat behind the main striker.

At times he has looked outstanding, always willing to run and chase things and his finishing has been pretty good too but he needs a run in the team in a position where he can do the most damage.

Mullin is an old fashioned out and out centre forward. The type to play in a 442 with wingers and a target man up top with him.

Similar mould to Steve Finney


If anything Mullins playing football in the wrong era!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: RobertT on Saturday, May 12, 2018, 15:39:57
Mullin is an old fashioned out and out centre forward. The type to play in a 442 with wingers and a target man up top with him.

Similar mould to Steve Finney


If anything Mullins playing football in the wrong era!

I'd agree with that.  He has a good finishing instinct, just needs to be played in the right role with the right personnel to get the best out of him.  Think he would have done well with Allison next to him.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Saturday, May 12, 2018, 16:18:09
Or maybe they drew a line and put the contract 6 foot in the air a yard off the line.
Sorry BO has this in the bag.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: DiV on Sunday, May 13, 2018, 08:52:54
I'd agree with that.  He has a good finishing instinct, just needs to be played in the right role with the right personnel to get the best out of him.  Think he would have done well with Allison next to him.

Mullin should really ever find himself out the oppositions penalty area.

He would have done great with The Chief. I think a front two of him and Norris would have been serviceable this season. Would have needed better wingers though.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, May 13, 2018, 10:12:56
I think Mullins definately best played as a striker but some of his best games for us have come as a wide attacker, certainly early season, he has strength and a bit of pace but so badly needs to be played where he can hurt the opposition...in the box, not down either wing.

Then again I think Woolery would be more useful playing as a wide attacker rather than through the middle, the same role he did so well with at FGR.

For some reason DF swapped them over with Mullin wide and Woolery throught the middle which most of the time never worked.

Hopefully PB will have seen enough to play to both players strengths next season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Sunday, May 13, 2018, 10:20:12
Indeed. I think they can both be key players for us next season (and could have been this if used regularly, in the right way) As you say, hopefully Phil Brown sees it the same way.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, May 13, 2018, 10:25:28
I did feel that under DF a fair percentage of the side seemed to be played out of their best position, then again he made a bit of a habit of that at Bury previously according to the Shakers forum.

Knoyle played at CB, Purkiss at CB, Iandolo at LB, Gordon at WB, Goddard in various positions, Taylor at LB, Woolery and Mullin all over the place, McDermott at CM, Anderson at CM and striker, RCC in goal....


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, May 13, 2018, 11:09:44
Woolery often gets stick for not being a prolific scorer. He's not an out and out striker, though.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: hefty toe on Sunday, May 13, 2018, 11:31:02
As previously said Mullin would be v.good in a central striker role in a 4-4-2 alongside a target man.  The problem is Swindon don't really have a target man or, at least, a good one. 


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: hefty toe on Sunday, May 13, 2018, 11:35:52
Woolery often gets stick for not being a prolific scorer. He's not an out and out striker, though.

I think of Woolery like Theo Walcott.  Best position would be on the right in a 4-3-3.  I'm not sure he's really up to it, though, and I wouldn't shape the team to accommodate him.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: A Gent Orange on Sunday, May 13, 2018, 14:17:30
I’m not quite sure I agree with this assessment of Mullin as a finisher. I’d agree that he attacks the ball with gusto and he is seemingly unafraid of being hurt - which helps enormously with rebounds etc - but i’ve not seen it in his movement or positioning, or calmness under pressure. Contrast it with Richard’s who pulls wide, near or short as the chance demands to finish - although increasingly being let down by his declining physicality - and terrible left foot.

I do agree that he is lost outside the box, having little guile, no change of pace and only passible technique. Just my opinion though - and i’ve not seen him up top that often. IMHO he’s a decent player but i’m not sure which area he’s actually good enough in to make his own.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Sunday, May 13, 2018, 14:28:55
I'd heard that Cheltenham were trying to sign a 'former' right back of ours.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Sunday, May 13, 2018, 14:41:03
I'd heard that Cheltenham were trying to sign a 'former' right back of ours.
Bradley Barry I hope  8)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, May 13, 2018, 14:42:54
I'd heard that Cheltenham were trying to sign a 'former' right back of ours.
After both Hussey and Andy Williams


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Posh Red on Sunday, May 13, 2018, 15:43:42
Woolery often gets stick for not being a prolific scorer. He's not an out and out striker, though.

Maybe not, but he's bloody awful out wide.

He came on aa a sub at Chesterfield & frightened the life out of them for a while by running at them with the ball. Unfortunately they soon realised that he would ignore anyone overlapping outside of him & couldn't cross the ball for toffee


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 10:35:44
Retained list out.... standby

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/16229025.Town_release_five_as_Taylor_is_offered_new_deal/

CONTRACT OFFERS MADE: Amine Linganzi, Ryan McGivern, Stuart Moore, Matt Preston, Joe Romanski, Matty Taylor.

RELEASED: Reice Charles-Cook, Donal McDermott, Tom Ouldridge, Ben Purkiss, Tom Smith.

CONTRACTED PLAYERS FOR 2018/19: Keshi Anderson. Dion Conroy. James Dunne. Jordan Edwards. Olly Lancashire. Paul Mullin, Sol Pryce, Marc Richards, Chris Robertson, Lawrence Vigouroux, Kaiyne Woolery, Will Henry, Ellis Iandolo, Kyle Knoyle, Luke Norris, Scott Twine.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: hefty toe on Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 10:37:36
I can't believe that we offered more than a 1 year deal to Robertson.  Flitcroft really was a cretin.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 10:38:54
Retained list out....

RELEASED: Tom Smith.


(https://sayingimages.com/wp-content/uploads/anyone-hungry-this-could-be-a-while-popcorn-meme.jpg)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 10:39:53
Must be something defective about Tom Smith, the ability was there but overlooked so many times without being given a chance it can't be coincidence.

Moore? Seriously? Wouldn't have bothered with Linganzi either but he could do a job.

 


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 10:40:55
Surprised to see Stuart Moore offered a contract and very glad to see Charles-Cook released. Relieved he didn't have another year to run.

Amine Linganzi somewhat fortunate to be offered a new contract.

Hopefully we transfer list Robertson and hope someone takes him.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: hefty toe on Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 10:50:38
Given the high number of contracted players we have we'll probably be limited largely to loan players.  Can't see that we'll be able to shift many of the deadwood contracted players.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 10:51:45
Must be something defective about Tom Smith, the ability was there but overlooked so many times without being given a chance it can't be coincidence.

Moore? Seriously? Wouldn't have bothered with Linganzi either but he could do a job.

 

Smith must have an attitude or something, I wonder if he'll end up at FGR?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: theakston2k on Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 10:52:54
A contract off to Ryan McGivern? How odd.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Honest Lee on Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 10:54:57
(Tom Smith)     Or become a legend at the Pox   :cry:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 11:10:39
The only one that raised my eyebrows was Chris Robertson but that could be a contract clause activation.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 11:14:41
Surprised to see Stuart Moore offered a contract and very glad to see Charles-Cook released. Relieved he didn't have another year to run.

Amine Linganzi somewhat fortunate to be offered a new contract.

Hopefully we transfer list Robertson and hope someone takes him.

R C-C is still under contract.... PB has just let him know if he wants to play, then he'll need to move on.  Sitting tight and taking his salary still an option.

At this stage it's all a bit flexible... contract offers are sometimes done for tactical reasons, like last years offer to Jermaine Hylton, clearly it wasn't that we wanted him, well I assume the case, but rather a new club would pay the admin on his registration.

Of those staying, there might yet be a bit of wriggle room for outs, no doubts agents will ahve been informed and perhaps seeing what they can do.

Obviously and for me a good thing there won't be a huge churn, the new blood being mostly loans.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 11:15:52
Given the high number of contracted players we have we'll probably be limited largely to loan players.  Can't see that we'll be able to shift many of the deadwood contracted players.

Agreed, not a lot of scope to maneuver unless we offload a few more. The flaw in that plan pointed out above.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 11:17:00
R C-C is still under contract....

Wait, what? I thought "released" meant no contract as apposed to "available".


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Bogus Dave on Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 11:19:05
Of the contracts offered, not sure about McGivern but the rest seem sensible enough (assuming Moore is signing as a backup keepe, which would be an upgrade on RCC)

No real complaints about those released. Was intrigued to see how smith would develop, but I don’t think releasing a teenager with a handful of league starts is going to kill us

Would love to know what flitcroft saw in Robertson to offer him a two year deal


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: reeves4england on Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 11:20:01
PB will have an idea of his favoured formation and players but as a rough guide that leaves us with something like:

First XI: Vigs, Taylor, Preston. Conroy, Knoyle, Dunne, Linganzi, Iandolo, Anderson, Mullin, Richards

Bench: Moore, Lancashire, McGivern, Young, twine, Woolery, Norris

Also: Edwards, Pryce, Robertson, Henry, Romanski

It's a shame we have so many CBs on the books as we could do with improving there. The midfield definitely looks weak and we need to see more from the likes of Woolery and Anderson next year, especially if we're not bringing anybody else in up top.

My shopping list (including loanees) would be: 1 CB, 1 RB, 1 LB, 1 CDM, 1 CAM, 1 CF to play off Richards or Norris


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 11:21:45
Quote

Swindon Town FC
‏Verified account @Official_STFC
4m4 minutes ago

We would like to thank the following for their efforts during their time with us and we wish them the best for the future.

Reice Charles-Cook
Ben Purkiss
Donal McDermott
Tom Ouldridge

#STFC

WTF did Tom Smith do?!

edit: they've dedicated him his own tweet.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 11:22:58
Norris, Knoyle and Twine were exercised options

https://footydeck.com/a/14yne?via=tweet


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Bogus Dave on Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 11:26:33
ALSO Tom Smith is a Tory so gets what he deserves


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 11:31:47
Moore improved quite a bit over the run of games that he played.

All depends on LV's attitude and if he wants to stay.
PB might be able to manage him a bit better than his predecessor.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 11:36:32
Wait, what? I thought "released" meant no contract as apposed to "available".


Official site suggests that contract had expired... https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2018/may/town-reveal-retainedreleased-list/



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Riddick on Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 11:39:56
We willing took up an option on Norris?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! It better be because we can get some cash for him because i would have cut and run. We have so many forward players locked down in the squad and we need to create space to get better in, this would have been that opportunity.

Little surprised over Purkiss. I know not a fans favorite but i think he was a lot better than many gave him credit for. Not sure how McGivern justifies a contract over him for example.

My biggest disappointment with the news today is just how little room we seem to have to move (assuming those offered contracts sign them). We will have 5 CB's for example and our defense has been pretty bad all season with only Conroy free of any blame for that.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 11:41:27
Official site suggests that contract had expired... https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2018/may/town-reveal-retainedreleased-list/



Costanza reckons 2019, I'm more inclined to believe him than the official site.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Abrahammer on Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 11:41:51
All quite calm on the Tom Smith reaction front.

Personally it’s not a surprise, a few managers now haven’t fancied him so I’d expect to end in the conference which would seem to be his level at best.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: hefty toe on Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 11:45:27
I would have thought that other clubs will be after Preston.  Perhaps the contract offer to McGivern is on the basis that they don't think Preston will sign a new deal?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: reeves4england on Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 11:54:41
If Preston plumped for us last year and hasn't been fit enough to stand out this season, are other clubs going to be queueing up for his signature? Time will tell but I wouldn't be surprised if we're the best offer he gets.

(Cue him signing for a top end L1 club within the next 24 hours)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 11:59:44
If Preston plumped for us last year and hasn't been fit enough to stand out this season, are other clubs going to be queueing up for his signature? Time will tell but I wouldn't be surprised if we're the best offer he gets.

(Cue him signing for a top end L1 club within the next 24 hours)

Mansfield is the likely destination....


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 12:03:59
Costanza reckons 2019, I'm more inclined to believe him than the official site.

All the news said it was a two year one when he signed, but we are not to know what clauses were in there to activate the second year, seems very odd to pay him off if they have - at least keep him for the summer on the off chance that someone takes a punt on him from another club - based on your response to almost everything no doubt Mansfield would have bought him.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 12:45:35
All the news said it was a two year one when he signed, but we are not to know what clauses were in there to activate the second year, seems very odd to pay him off if they have - at least keep him for the summer on the off chance that someone takes a punt on him from another club - based on your response to almost everything no doubt Mansfield would have bought him.

Flitters has just lost his centre half Bennet to Evans at Posh, so he needs a new player.

Is it so far fetched to think he might be in for Preston as he's out of contract, and having signed him for us, knows his worth?


Title: Re: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Benzel on Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 14:41:46
We willing took up an option on Norris?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! It better be because we can get some cash for him because i would have cut and run. We have so many forward players locked down in the squad and we need to create space to get better in, this would have been that opportunity.

It's because we looked much better with him in the side.

Sent from my SM-G930F


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 14:54:52
Official site suggests that contract had expired... https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2018/may/town-reveal-retainedreleased-list/



Further the OS forget to mention that Jordan Young is still under contract, or is he  :hmmm:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Ells on Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 15:15:07
Further the OS forget to mention that Jordan Young is still under contract, or is he  :hmmm:

He is, they just forgot. Must feel nice for the lad.

I liked Smith for non footballing reasons, I'm a bit gutted  :girlgiggle:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 15:17:44
He is, they just forgot. Must feel nice for the lad.

I liked Smith for non footballing reasons, I'm a bit gutted  :girlgiggle:

Pervert   :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 15:27:31
He is, they just forgot. Must feel nice for the lad.

I liked Smith for non footballing reasons, I'm a bit gutted  :girlgiggle:

Was it his hair......

In the picture the club have chosen to illustrate the farewell tweet it looks like he is wearing a ginger ushanka

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DdUIhp4WkAA9A8y.jpg:large)

https://twitter.com/Official_STFC/status/996712894434865152


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Kinky Tom on Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 16:06:23
I'd be willing to bet we scored more goals with Norris on the pitch than without, probably a lot more, people have decided they don't like him though so stats like that (if true) can be ignored.

As for Preston, I'd love to see him stay, after all the talk from the club since DF left I'd imagine not many are queuing up to join him.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 16:42:11
Thank god Smith has left, a very limited footballer. No doubt he will be replaced by another youth product who will have a constant clamour for his inclusion, the smart money's on Twine...


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Panda Paws on Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 16:45:07
How many managers have we been through that haven't seen enough in Smith? I'm going to choose to side with them rather than our weird, obsessive fan base.

And if he goes on to prove us wrong, fair play. When was the last person to do that?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Kinky Tom on Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 16:48:54
Mustapha Caroyal?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 16:50:03
Arguably Billy Bodin, although no one would have predicted his rise at the time - he was not up to much at all and it took him many years to get to the level he is at now.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Kinky Tom on Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 16:54:38
That was to do with the fall out between Di Canio and Paul more than footballing reasons though wasn't it?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 17:00:22
How many managers have we been through that haven't seen enough in Smith? I'm going to choose to side with them rather than our weird, obsessive fan base.

And if he goes on to prove us wrong, fair play. When was the last person to do that?

Mustapha Carayol left our set up, and went on to have a decent career, as a mid table Div 2 sort of player, may still be at Ipswich.

Don't remember there being much of a fuss about him at the time mind.

It's entirely possible to drop down and still have a career as a pro, fellas like Will Evans and Scott Doe spring to mind. OK not mega bucks in the Conference or Conference N/S, but it probably compares quite favourably with what your peers are on in the real world.



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Hoboken on Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 17:00:56
How many managers have we been through that haven't seen enough in Smith? I'm going to choose to side with them rather than our weird, obsessive fan base.

And if he goes on to prove us wrong, fair play. When was the last person to do that?

Kayden  Jackson ?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: tans on Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 17:08:52
Mustapha Carayol left our set up, and went on to have a decent career, as a mid table Div 2 sort of player, may still be at Ipswich.

Don't remember there being much of a fuss about him at the time mind.

It's entirely possible to drop down and still have a career as a pro, fellas like Will Evans and Scott Doe spring to mind. OK not mega bucks in the Conference or Conference N/S, but it probably compares quite favourably with what your peers are on in the real world.



Doe played for Boreham Wood on saturday. Didnt he realise he was 29, he looked older than Herhab!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Panda Paws on Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 18:16:52
Kayden  Jackson ?

Wasn't an academy grad, and it's early days to say we made a mistake letting him go. 5 years of nothing before this season.

Bodin is a shout.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 18:26:17
Looking at the released list the only one I am disappointed to see leave is Smith. Felt he offered more than both Dunne & Linganzi. Surprised that we've made an offer to Linganzi for two reasons, fitness & the fact that he doesn't dominate games as much as he should for a guy of his stature. Smith would have been cheaper & would have thrived under Brown imo but hey ho.
McDermott & Purkiss, I'm both a bit meh on. Wouldn't have been overly disappointed if either had stayed but McDermott only scored once all season & there were question marks over his fitness while the writing was on the wall for Purkiss after PB indirectly criticized him after the Newport defeat.
Preston & Taylor are must keeps & Moore will be adequate back up for Vigs (if he stays). RCC leaving is a bonus. McGivern being offered a deal is a bit of a surprise but fingers crossed he'll grab the opportunity with both hands.
& a big shout out for Flitcroft for lumbering us with Robertson for another season. Cheers for that you cunt.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: THE FLASH on Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 19:37:11
We willing took up an option on Norris?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! It better be because we can get some cash for him because i would have cut and run. We have so many forward players locked down in the squad and we need to create space to get better in, this would have been that opportunity.

Little surprised over Purkiss. I know not a fans favorite but i think he was a lot better than many gave him credit for. Not sure how McGivern justifies a contract over him for example.

My biggest disappointment with the news today is just how little room we seem to have to move (assuming those offered contracts sign them). We will have 5 CB's for example and our defense has been pretty bad all season with only Conroy free of any blame for that.

Woolery would be the cut and run for me...


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 20:05:48
Woolery would be the cut and run for me...

Him or Anderson for me, not bothered which


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: DiV on Thursday, May 17, 2018, 05:35:23
How many managers have we been through that haven't seen enough in Smith? I'm going to choose to side with them rather than our weird, obsessive fan base.

And if he goes on to prove us wrong, fair play. When was the last person to do that?

On the flip how many managers gave Michael Pook contracts and game time?

...and they were all bloody wrong!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, May 17, 2018, 08:58:41
Thank god Smith has left, a very limited footballer. No doubt he will be replaced by another youth product who will have a constant clamour for his inclusion, the smart money's on Twine...

Got to be worth a couple of quid on him getting an England cap now.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, May 17, 2018, 09:00:50
Mustapha Caroyal?

Didn't he choose to go with Ince when he left for Macclesfield rather than us sacking him off?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Private Fraser on Friday, May 18, 2018, 20:51:48
Vigouroux ships 6 tonight at home to lowly Limerick.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2017-18)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, May 19, 2018, 00:47:02
Vigouroux ships 6 tonight at home to lowly Limerick.

There was a young man from Chile
Whose keeping was a bit silly
He cost a few bob
And Flitters his job
Despite the size of his willie


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Private Fraser on Sunday, May 27, 2018, 14:35:54
Friday’s post-match interview with LV:

https://twitter.com/waterfordfcie/status/1000123008307138560?s=21


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, June 6, 2018, 15:25:38
BBC Wiltshire Sport

 
@BBCWiltsSport
 13s14 seconds ago
More
BREAKING: Matty Taylor signs one year deal as player-coach at @Official_STFC #stfc


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, June 6, 2018, 15:27:09
great news!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Wednesday, June 6, 2018, 15:27:37
BBC Wiltshire Sport

 
@BBCWiltsSport
 13s14 seconds ago
More
BREAKING: Matty Taylor signs one year deal as player-coach at @Official_STFC #stfc

Be interesting to see how much he plays first team footy. I guess we'll have an idea with whatever signings are imminent. Still, good news though.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, June 6, 2018, 16:02:52
great news!

Indeed it is.  Matty showed himself to be a top pro, so it can only be good to have his influence around the place.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, June 7, 2018, 10:33:00
Mark Richards will be a coach the Northampton youth team.
And play for Swindon.

What the actual...

https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/feature-richards-delighted-to-be-back-at-the-cobblers-as-a-youth-team-coach-1-8524299

Oh OK, he still lives in Northampton, so I guess its better use of time than getting more tattoos.  Still doesn't feel right :)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, June 7, 2018, 10:42:02
Mark Richards will be a coach the Northampton youth team.
And play for Swindon.

What the actual...

https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/sport/football/feature-richards-delighted-to-be-back-at-the-cobblers-as-a-youth-team-coach-1-8524299

Oh OK, he still lives in Northampton, so I guess its better use of time than getting more tattoos.  Still doesn't feel right :)

It's different, but I don't have a problem with it....


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, June 7, 2018, 10:49:51
Its under-14s. So not sure if that will impact us..


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, June 7, 2018, 10:55:02
I guess if it affects his game prep/recovery ..

we must have ok'd it, so I'm not losing sleep. I bet plenty of players so this, just at their own clubs


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, June 7, 2018, 11:44:46
Its only a couple of days a week, although not sure what would happen if Brown demanded the players into training on a sunday, does he miss 1st team training or the youth game ?

I'm sure its good for his development though.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Thursday, June 7, 2018, 11:48:26
No problems with this. Good luck to the bloke. Done alright for us and no reason why that won't continue. Given what I've seen of Richards this is quite a clever move by Northampton. He appears a good role model and they love him up there.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, June 7, 2018, 11:51:27
An odd one. I couldn't give a flying one as long as he keeps banging them in, though.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Bogus Dave on Thursday, June 7, 2018, 12:34:11
Man helps out at local kids football team in his spare time. Shocking



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: pauld on Thursday, June 7, 2018, 12:36:39
Man helps out at local kids football team in his spare time. Shocking
He's not just helping out at a local team, he's been appointed to a paid role in their Academy. Bit different.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Bogus Dave on Thursday, June 7, 2018, 12:42:47
Unless I missed it, nothing suggests he’s being paid in that article? I can’t imagine putting out some cones and giving a few motivational speeches to some 13 year olds will be a huge conflict of interests.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: pauld on Thursday, June 7, 2018, 12:47:05
Unless I missed it, nothing suggests he’s being paid in that article? I can’t imagine putting out some cones and giving a few motivational speeches to some 13 year olds will be a huge conflict of interests.
Academy coaching roles are paid. I agree it's not that big a deal in terms of having any impact on him here, but it's not like trotting up to your local U7s sides and "putting out some cones" as you're suggesting. And tbf, there's a bit more to coaching the local U7s side as well, if you're doing it properly


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Bogus Dave on Thursday, June 7, 2018, 12:50:04
Are they? I didn’t know that, fair enough. The way the article was written it looked more like Richards has asked his mate if he can muck in for a bit in his spare time and earn his badges (which I presumed he’d be willing to do on an unpaid basis)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Panda Paws on Thursday, June 7, 2018, 12:51:27
Academy coaching roles are paid. I agree it's not that big a deal in terms of having any impact on him here, but it's not like trotting up to your local U7s sides and "putting out some cones" as you're suggesting.

Actually, a lot of academy coaching roles aren't paid. I've no knowledge of this deal, but recall reading on numerous occasions (The Nowhere Men by the brilliant Michael Calvin I think being one) roles like this, particularly at this level, are often volunteer as part of development.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: pauld on Thursday, June 7, 2018, 12:52:01
Are they? I didn’t know that, fair enough. The way the article was written it looked more like Richards has asked his mate if he can muck in for a bit in his spare time and earn his badges (which I presumed he’d be willing to do on an unpaid basis)
TBF, he may well do, but the role would usually be paid. Although part-time coaching roles at this level are appallingly badly paid so he certainly won't be doing it for the money, as you say the motivation will be to start preparing for a post-playing career in coaching.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: pauld on Thursday, June 7, 2018, 12:55:10
Actually, a lot of academy coaching roles aren't paid. I've no knowledge of this deal, but recall reading on numerous occasions (The Nowhere Men by the brilliant Michael Calvin I think being one) roles like this, particularly at this level, are often volunteer as part of development.
IIRC, the coaches Calvin was referring to were the community coaches not Academy coaches, where it is fairly common. But, there may well be Academy coaches doing it voluntarily - I should have said "usually", but as I've already said replying to Dave, it's a bit of a moot point really, as any money involved will be rubbish. He isn't going to be paying off his mortgage with it.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Panda Paws on Thursday, June 7, 2018, 12:58:39
IIRC, the coaches Calvin was referring to were the community coaches not Academy coaches, where it is fairly common. But, there may well be Academy coaches doing it voluntarily - I should have said "usually", but as I've already said replying to Dave, it's a bit of a moot point really, as any money involved will be rubbish. He isn't going to be paying off his mortgage with it.

Yep, you're definitely right on not doing it for the money. Might just be £50 or whatever but as you say, a moot point really and fair play to the bloke.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: pauld on Thursday, June 7, 2018, 13:12:01
Yep, you're definitely right on not doing it for the money. Might just be £50 or whatever but as you say, a moot point really and fair play to the bloke.
:nod:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Thursday, June 7, 2018, 13:45:22
Shocked at peoples response to this. Imagine if we had been told he has left the club because he had been told we said no to him training some kids in his own town.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, June 7, 2018, 13:59:15
To be fair, I think that only one person has expressed a (mild) problem with it.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, June 7, 2018, 14:00:42
Shocked at peoples response to this. Imagine if we had been told he has left the club because he had been told we said no to him training some kids in his own town.

Sorry Marc.

Cunt.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: tans on Thursday, June 7, 2018, 14:03:09
Dont give a shit about it to be honest


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Thursday, June 7, 2018, 14:14:11
To be fair, I think that only one person has expressed a (mild) problem with it.
Lot worse on Twitter.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, June 7, 2018, 14:15:27
Ah, yeah. I've no doubt. I think I'll steer clear.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: tans on Thursday, June 7, 2018, 14:56:44
No moaning about Matty Taylor doing punditry though


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, June 7, 2018, 16:20:07
No moaning about Matty Taylor doing punditry though
Or managing Exeter City


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: tans on Thursday, June 7, 2018, 16:21:07
Or managing Exeter City

Or playing for Bristol City :D


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Abrahammer on Thursday, June 7, 2018, 16:54:41
Dan the Fan thinks it’s an outrage.

He’s the official voice of the fans, we have a duty to mirror his opinions


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, June 7, 2018, 17:05:25
Dan the fan's a prick.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, June 7, 2018, 17:07:11
Dearest Dan is a bit of a grumpy bum. Always, always takes the the overly negative view.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: china red on Thursday, June 7, 2018, 17:43:54
Wasn’t player of the season Matty Taylor a youth coach at Luton last season also?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Thursday, June 7, 2018, 17:49:57
And having to make ends meet by playing cricket for Gloucestershire in the summer as well.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: leftside on Thursday, June 7, 2018, 20:49:14
Marc Richards ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Thursday, June 7, 2018, 21:14:55
Marc Richards ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE!
Dilly, dilly....


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Batch on Friday, June 8, 2018, 21:08:59
stfc rumours:

Amine Linganzi turns down contract offer and leaves STFC


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: tans on Friday, June 8, 2018, 21:10:39
PB basically came out and said he was practically offered an incetivised pay as you play deal on the phone in didnt he


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Kinky Tom on Friday, June 8, 2018, 21:14:17
Probably on a reasonable wage so overall I'm pleased an average, injury prone player is off to free up wages for, hopefully, someone better.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Batch on Friday, June 8, 2018, 21:19:26
never really got going with us did he.

wish him luck and hope we can find someone who can contribute more with the wage


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, June 8, 2018, 21:21:09
I thought he was crap so happy enough that Brown can get someone better.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Friday, June 8, 2018, 21:33:36
No loss but wish the lad well.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: suttonred on Friday, June 8, 2018, 21:36:46
I thought he was crap so happy enough that Brown can get someone better.

Err. Hopefully.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Ells on Friday, June 8, 2018, 21:37:22
He had moments where he looked really good but they were never consistent. Wish him the best.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, June 8, 2018, 21:38:40
Err. Hopefully.

Well yeah, clearly I don’t hope he’ll be replaced with Pook


Title: Re: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: horlock07 on Saturday, June 9, 2018, 10:40:11
stfc rumours:

Amine Linganzi turns down contract offer and leaves STFC
Family reasons so he suggests, also leaves with the shocking news that Jesus is a Swindon supporter.... 😂


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Amir on Saturday, June 9, 2018, 10:52:04
Family reasons so he suggests, also leaves with the shocking news that Jesus is a Swindon supporter.... 😂

Jesus loves us, everyone else thinks we're....


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Batch on Saturday, June 9, 2018, 10:55:50
Jesus clearly didn't channel himself through RCC... Jesus saves.

I'm here all summer


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: ronnie21 on Saturday, June 9, 2018, 11:22:35
Well yeah, clearly I don’t hope he’ll be replaced with Pook
Dont think that will happen, he's just signed a new improved contract with Cirencester!!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, June 9, 2018, 12:07:24
That means a new Player has to be chosen to sponsor..


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Ells on Wednesday, June 20, 2018, 16:15:34
Romanski's signed his deal


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, June 20, 2018, 16:19:41
Romanski's signed his deal
Glad he has signed, he looks like he has some potential even if this season could well be spent out on loan a league or so lower, a little disappointed he took this long to agree it but at least he has finally signed it.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, June 20, 2018, 16:30:01
That means a new Player has to be chosen to sponsor..
I’d prefer one of the youngsters - Jordan Young maybe - or would it have to be a more likely regular starter?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, June 25, 2018, 20:57:38
Ouldridge joins Hungerford


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 06:36:47
Simon Moore is still not tied down.

Ryan McGivern has gone.

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/16319661.goalkeeper-stuart-moore-trains-with-town-as-ryan-mcgivern-departs/

THE CURRENT SQUAD


GOALKEEPERS

1. Lawrence Vigouroux (2019)
12. Will Henry (2019)
28. Stuart Moore (Contract Offered)

DEFENDERS

6. Olly Lancashire (2019)
23. Joe Romanski (2019)
24. Kyle Knoyle (2019)
25. Dion Conroy (2019)

MIDFIELDERS

8. James Dunne (2019)
14. Ellis Iandolo (2019)
26. Jordan Young (2019)
31. Matthew Taylor (2019)
35. Jordan Edwards (2019)
--. Jermaine McGlashan (2020)

FORWARDS

17. Marc Richards (2019)
22. Kaiyne Woolery (2020)
27. Scott Twine (2019)
30. Keshi Anderson (2020)
--. Sol Pryce (2019)



NOTE: There may be some errors.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: suttonred on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 07:07:53
Robertson's gone as well


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 07:16:24
Robertson's gone as well

Is that confirmed?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 07:28:20
Is that confirmed?
Yeah I haven't seen anything official about RCC or Robertson, just whats been said on here.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 07:31:06
RCC was on the clubs released list


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 07:34:29
This is just what’s needed. Clearing out the dross and unmotivated. As long as they’re not replaced with similar dross we should end up looking forward to the season ahead.

Why some are getting their knickers in a twist about any of those who have left is beyond me.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 07:37:30
Stuart Moore has signed his contract I’m told. Should be announced today.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 07:38:14
This is just what’s needed. Clearing out the dross and unmotivated. As long as they’re not replaced with similar dross we should end up looking forward to the season ahead.

Why some are getting their knickers in a twist about any of those who have left is beyond me.
This.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 07:38:47

Why some are getting their knickers in a twist about any of those who have left is beyond me.

Because it's an opportunity to moan about the devil incarnate.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Panda Paws on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 07:56:15
I know I shouldn't read, but BTL on the Adver and THAT FB group is so depressing and knee-jerk, as are most people on Twitter.

Spend all season saying we're shit, then slag off the club for clearing out the dross they've been abusing all season.

Get the feeling we could get taken over by a rich fan, get promoted 3 times over and they'd moan, abuse the players, slag off the club and "not come back until....".

Does my fucking head in.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Riddick on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 07:59:04
No sign of Robertson or Woolery in any of the pre season snaps.

No speculation on any of the trialists that people have heard?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 08:19:06
Woolery is there, sure enough. Got a mop of bleached hair.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 08:55:08
Stuart Moore has signed his contract I’m told. Should be announced today.

They will have to be careful with announcing that to the media.... don't want to overshadow the England Games.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Private Fraser on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 09:09:19
No sign of Robertson or Woolery in any of the pre season snaps.

No speculation on any of the trialists that people have heard?

Now named by the Adver:

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/16320165.quartet-of-trialists-get-chance-in-swindon-town-friendlies/


Title: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 09:18:45
to save a click:

Martin Smith, Lloyd Sam, Maxwell   Oldham and Jordan Williams have all joined in with Phil Brown

will Google later!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: suttonred on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 09:23:50
No do the click and read the comment from the guy who for some reason thinks the players arent in the country...

3 of the 4 sound interesting


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 09:27:31
to save a click:

Martin Smith, Lloyd Sam, Maxwell   Oldham and Jordan Williams have all joined in with Phil Brown

will Google later!

It's a worry that the Adver had this before the TEF..... standards are slipping.

Sam, I've heard of. One of those quick wingers, who look more threatening than really are, due to poor final ball.

Oldham would be a suitable replacement for Preston, as long as he plays CB, so that Oldham, Lancashire could grace the team sheet.

Williams, don't think it's the one we had before..... and any Town side should have a Smith or 3 around the squad.

A refreshing absenced of Francophones.....


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 09:29:49
Sam, I've heard of. One of those quick wingers, who look more threatening than really are, due to poor final ball.

He's a shoe in then - Shakes, O'Brian even Byrne to an extent..

Meh, trialists come and go - though Brown did say he was getting close on a few deals...


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 09:29:58
Love the fact that Phil Brown was scouting at the Conifa World Football Cup

 :toocool:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 09:36:50
So, who wants to match pictures with guesses below:

Maxwell Oldham - pacy Californian winger (http://www.corinthian-casuals.com/player-profiles1.html )

Lloyd Sam - winger, see reg (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lloyd_Sam)

Martin Smith -  been playing in Ireland (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Smith_(footballer,_born_1995))

Jordan Williams - defender ( http://www.allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=18244 ) - FYI: the one we had recently joined Rochdale..

Nothing to exciting in their history  if they are the right ones...


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 09:37:14
Oldham would be a suitable replacement for Preston, as long as he plays CB, so that Oldham, Lancashire could grace the team sheet.


Fuck me what is it with geography on here today, Oldham is in Greater Manchester!  ;)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 09:40:24
Fuck me what is it with geography on here today, Oldham is in Greater Manchester!  ;)

Brace yourself for a 'Reg Lesson', horlock...


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 09:41:37
Love the fact that Phil Brown was scouting at the Conifa World Football Cup

 :toocool:

Yes, an encouraging sign.   Perhaps we can look forward to someone from Abkhazia v Tibet being signed up


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 10:12:55
Sendles White on trial as well


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: tans on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 10:13:07
Sendles White on trial also.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 10:14:53
Sendles-White also on trial.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Red Frog on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 10:20:10
Also Sendles-White on trial.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 10:21:38
Bless him, he's got his second chance.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 10:27:48
Former player in return to club alert.

This might placate some of the seething masses.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 10:38:12
I was surprised that he didn't at least get at least a pre-season to prove himself after that big injury.

Lots of people on Social Media seem to like him and he's got a lovely smile.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 10:47:31
I assume Facebook is now full of people moaning about the lack of ambition of bringing in players who have had a bad injury!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 10:52:20
I was surprised that he didn't at least get at least a pre-season to prove himself after that big injury.

Lots of people on Social Media seem to like him and he's got a lovely smile.

I thought the same, even if a month by month contract.  However we don't know that such a thing was offered but turned down.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 10:56:04
I suppose we must have, but I can’t think of any weird and wonderful triallist we’ve actually gone on to sign


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 11:00:27
Thomas Dossevi?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 11:11:36
Thomas Dossevi?

Just reading about Dossevi didn't realise/remember he was a survivor of the Togo team bus attack at the Cup of Nations in 2010 about 6 months before he joined us...


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 11:11:52
I suppose we must have, but I can’t think of any weird and wonderful triallist we’ve actually gone on to sign

PV gave a short list.... of which Migs woud be the pick and the Minge gave a good season, and LJF was a bit of a cult hero briefly.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 11:15:48
I suppose we must have, but I can’t think of any weird and wonderful triallist we’ve actually gone on to sign
Perhaps I should have qualified this with ‘that were any good’


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: THE FLASH on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 11:16:57
So, who wants to match pictures with guesses below:

Maxwell Oldham - pacy Californian winger (http://www.corinthian-casuals.com/player-profiles1.html )

Lloyd Sam - winger, see reg (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lloyd_Sam)

Martin Smith -  been playing in Ireland (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Smith_(footballer,_born_1995))

Jordan Williams - defender ( http://www.allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=18244 ) - FYI: the one we had recently joined Rochdale..

Nothing to exciting in their history  if they are the right ones...

Sam looks as if hes made of Brandy Snaps.

Oh well, we will all see.

All a bit Meh from me. I would just  like most of the team in place for the first game...


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 11:17:40
Perhaps I should have qualified this with ‘that were any good’

I swear to god if you're slagging off Stefani Miglioranzi......

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/74615c72cdb521769a2064c11e541d22/tenor.gif?itemid=5794225)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 11:20:30
I suppose we must have, but I can’t think of any weird and wonderful triallist we’ve actually gone on to sign

https://thewashbag.com/2014/07/22/trialist-fails-the-good-the-bad-and-thomas-dossevi/


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 11:21:05
Lloyd Sam was good at Notts County apparently but that was 6 years ago. We definitely need wingers so worth giving him a go.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 11:25:26
Lloyd Sam was good at Notts County apparently but that was 6 years ago. We definitely need wingers so worth giving him a go.
He always had bags of pace back then but hes in his 30s now so probably lost a fair amount of that, with all trialists theres nothing for us to lose at all in getting them in to have a look at.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 11:26:40
2017 season.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8XQB2xsJHg

Also....

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/englishman-new-york-lloyd-sam-wont-be-rushing-back-league-one



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 11:38:02
Tbf, he’s not rushing back to L1 is he


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 11:46:01
Tbf, he’s not rushing back to L1 is he

(https://media3.giphy.com/media/pNpONEEg3pLIQ/giphy.gif)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 11:53:57
Tbf, he’s not rushing back to L1 is he

TBF he was at Wimbledon back end of last season.... so he did rush back to L1 and is now settling in L2?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: mexico red on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 20:41:34
According to my source we are playing Glasgow rangers in spain


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: suttonred on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 20:46:59
According to my source we are playing Glasgow rangers in spain

Tax dodge/money laundering exercise etc etc :)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Thursday, June 28, 2018, 20:50:23
According to my source we are playing Glasgow rangers in spain
We always take on a few non league shit sides


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, June 29, 2018, 12:47:04
According to my source we are playing Glasgow rangers in spain

Should get some decent media coverage over here what with the wank fest over Stevie G.....


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 14:53:23
Had a quick read through the Orient forum about Steven Alzate, they have some great things to say about him, could be a cracking signing if he performs to the level they suggest.

Quote
"From Brightons U23's to Swindon is a big step back for him. Im surprised as I really rated Stephen"

"I don't think that's even close to being correct. One is kids football. "

"The move certainly did nothing for us and doesn't appear to have helped him a great deal either. Hopefully for his sake the move will give him the competitive playing time I should imagine he needs."

"He is one of my favourite ever youth team products ever though. Sublimely talented. I wouldn't be shocked to see him playing for Colombia one day. "

"Great signing for them. Let's hope they get the best out of him, in the short time with us you could tell his skill levels were a cut above. A real shame he never got a chance for us this season. Let's not forget the formation last pre-season, 4-2-3-1, as one of the guys behind Mooney I reckon he would had a brilliant season with us"

"Alzate is the most talented youth product I have seen come out of  our youth set up since Laurie Cunningham. He was due to be on the bench for Brightons last premiership match of last season but was ill. Agreeing with Bleeds Red a Colombian international in the making."

"Great move for him, play a season in League Two, rip it up, which he will, prepares him for bigger and better things when he goes back to Brighton, incredible talent, without doubt will play in the Premier League and represent his country one day, some people really don't understand how good this kid is. "

"He was a joy to watch. Two senior pros in midfield looking after him and let him show his flair."

"Some of the comments on here are laughable. He moved to a Premier League team from a Non league team. Anyone who thinks it was in his interest to turn that down is stark raving bonkers. He is now going to get game time in real mens football in League 2 in arguably the biggest club in that division.
If he excels then in January he will be loaned to a League 1 club. Some people need to get real. Can anyone really say he would have 'torn it up' for us last season under Davis... in my eyes he would not have suited the team or the division. Far too physical for him. He needs to be surrounded by better players in a higher league"

"Watched him lots for the youth team and he is a very special talent you don't have to be particularly clever to spot a talent like his, he is head and shoulders above most in his age range"

"I'm trying to point out is he's a great player, although not as good as some seem to think"


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 15:14:36
Had a quick read through the Orient forum about Steven Alzate, they have some great things to say about him, could be a cracking signing if he performs to the level they suggest.

"He is one of my favourite ever youth team products ever though. Sublimely talented. I wouldn't be shocked to see him playing for Colombia one day. "



On last nights performance I assume he is a dirty little fucker then!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 15:36:58
Had a quick read through the Orient forum about Steven Alzate, they have some great things to say about him, could be a cracking signing if he performs to the level they suggest.


Well as an indicator of how Power views the coming season, he sounds a bit like a Charlie Colkett.  A lad who looks good in youth football but may struggle a bit stepping up to men's football.... in my opinion not what we need if looking to seriously challenge.

Timi Elsnik, showed how difficult it is for a kid, and he had a good physical capabiity, but then got ground down somewhat.  Nothing wrong with that it's what happens and part of his development, but realistically you'll not get out of Div 4 relying on a kid in such a key position..

Still maybe we'll sign some quality gnarled operator and Steven can be a bit more peripheral.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 15:48:19
Well as an indicator of how Power views the coming season, he sounds a bit like a Charlie Colkett.  A lad who looks good in youth football but may struggle a bit stepping up to men's football.... in my opinion not what we need if looking to seriously challenge.

Timi Elsnik, showed how difficult it is for a kid, and he had a good physical capabiity, but then got ground down somewhat.  Nothing wrong with that it's what happens and part of his development, but realistically you'll not get out of Div 4 relying on a kid in such a key position..

Still maybe we'll sign some quality gnarled operator and Steven can be a bit more peripheral.

Elsnik suffered hamstring/quad stress injury (probably 3G linked) and then was rushed back before he was fully ready, possibly down to his own desire to want to play but DF should've been a better manager in that sense. PB didn't really get to see him at his fittest. Using Elsnik as an example isn't really great in this scenario. Possibly use someone like Woolery who seemingly didn't really cope with the strengths of L2's physicalities. Elsnik dealt fine with L2, he just happened to get injured.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 15:48:45
Well as an indicator of how Power views the coming season, he sounds a bit like a Charlie Colkett.  A lad who looks good in youth football but may struggle a bit stepping up to men's football.... in my opinion not what we need if looking to seriously challenge.

Timi Elsnik, showed how difficult it is for a kid, and he had a good physical capabiity, but then got ground down somewhat.  Nothing wrong with that it's what happens and part of his development, but realistically you'll not get out of Div 4 relying on a kid in such a key position..

Still maybe we'll sign some quality gnarled operator and Steven can be a bit more peripheral.
I don't ever want to see a Charlie fucking colkett clone in a town shirt ever again. The most self indulgent wanker ever to wear a Swindon shirt. Sums up that season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 15:55:21
The most self indulgent wanker ever to wear a Swindon shirt.

Not entirely correct, I suspect some of our supporters in replica shirts could trump him in the self indulgent wanker stakes.... I've read the Facebook group!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 16:29:46
Elsnik suffered hamstring/quad stress injury (probably 3G linked) and then was rushed back before he was fully ready, possibly down to his own desire to want to play but DF should've been a better manager in that sense. PB didn't really get to see him at his fittest. Using Elsnik as an example isn't really great in this scenario. Possibly use someone like Woolery who seemingly didn't really cope with the strengths of L2's physicalities. Elsnik dealt fine with L2, he just happened to get injured.

No. The comparison is valid. Both on loan from higher levels, young and looking to get some game time to develop for the benefit of the loaning club.  Kaiyne, a bit older, our own player who'd we'd so say paid money for from a Div 3 side. Kaiyne needed to step up, and become a saleable asset.

John Swift an interesting one.... similar talented youth... tried at Rotherham, but could do the physicality, and when he came to us he was a bit of an add on, to an already strong midfield.  You wouldn't have wanted to ask him to run midfield.

He's done OK since his move to Reading, without seemingly being able to take te step up to Prem level yet.



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: hefty toe on Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 17:03:00
Well as an indicator of how Power views the coming season, he sounds a bit like a Charlie Colkett.  A lad who looks good in youth football but may struggle a bit stepping up to men's football.... in my opinion not what we need if looking to seriously challenge.

Timi Elsnik, showed how difficult it is for a kid, and he had a good physical capabiity, but then got ground down somewhat.  Nothing wrong with that it's what happens and part of his development, but realistically you'll not get out of Div 4 relying on a kid in such a key position..

Still maybe we'll sign some quality gnarled operator and Steven can be a bit more peripheral.

Why do you think he sounds like Charlie Colkett?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Red Frog on Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 17:11:28
I don't ever want to see a Charlie fucking colkett clone in a town shirt ever again. The most self indulgent wanker ever to wear a Swindon shirt. Sums up that season.

Ben Hutchinson, anyone?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 17:46:44
Why do you think he sounds like Charlie Colkett?

Sounds like a talented youngster playing in midfield, trying to make the step up to men's football. Colkett has done all the England age groups up to U 20 as he's regarded as one of our better prospects, yet it's a tough ask to run a midfield in a match of hairy arsed old pros, which is how it worked out for Charlie.... this type need to have old hands around them to help out... Charlie had Yaser who had lost interest and wasn't up to it.

As things stand we've got James Dunne...  I'm kind of assuming Matty Taylor will be LB.

The original point was made in response to PV's scouting of Orient fans views.... who seem to think he's a talent despite getting relegated to the Conference in his breakthrough season.  He'll need something more around him though, as did Charlie who couldn't save us from Div 4. Power didn't provide that support.



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: hefty toe on Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 17:50:46
Sounds like a talented youngster playing in midfield, trying to make the step up to men's football. Colkett has done all the England age groups up to U 20 as he's regarded as one of our better prospects, yet it's a tough ask to run a midfield in a match of hairy arsed old pros, which is how it worked out for Charlie.... this type need to have old hands around them to help out... Charlie had Yaser who had lost interest and wasn't up to it.

As things stand we've got James Dunne...  I'm kind of assuming Matty Taylor will be LB.

The original point was made in response to PV's scouting of Orient fans views.... who seem to think he's a talent despite getting relegated to the Conference in his breakthrough season.  He'll need something more around him though, as did Charlie who couldn't save us from Div 4. Power didn't provide that support.




Thanks.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 18:49:13
Moore is no more, apparently.


Title: Re: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 18:58:46
Moore is no more, apparently.
Shouldn't this be in the snuffed it thread.....?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 19:08:22
So where has he gone?
Moore is no more, apparently.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Ardiles on Thursday, July 5, 2018, 12:53:33
I've not been following as closely as I should, but all seems very quiet on the transfer front.  With less than a month to go until the start of the season, could we actually put a side out with contracted players if we had to?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, July 5, 2018, 12:56:15
So where has he gone?

In the Adver report it says....

Quote
Stuart Moore – who the Advertiser understands is unlikely to feature in Brown’s squad this season – a notable absentee.

I thought he agreed on a new contract last week, unless it a. fell through or b. we are sending him out on loan for the season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, July 5, 2018, 13:12:41
b. we are sending him out on loan for the season.

Surely
  1. We'd send Henry
  2. He'd still have played last night.

I guess the prospect of being #2 didn't fill him with joy, and he's looking at other options.

Not exactly a good retention rate from last year, and while I'm not that bothered about the players themselves it leaves us with gaps to fill.  And perhaps points at how even average players are finding better deals elsewhere.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, July 5, 2018, 13:15:22
I've not been following as closely as I should, but all seems very quiet on the transfer front.  With less than a month to go until the start of the season, could we actually put a side out with contracted players if we had to?

Just about I think:

                             Vigs
knoyle Conroy*/Robertson/Lancashire*/Romanski Taylor (any 4 from)
              Mcglashen Dunne  Iandolo
                      Anderson
            Richards*  Young

* if fit

Brighton blokey is contracted, albeit loan.
    


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, July 5, 2018, 13:16:06
And perhaps points at how even average players are finding better deals elsewhere.

Reg, will you get out of Batch.....


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, July 5, 2018, 13:16:47
Just about I think:

                             Vigs
knoyle Conroy*/Robertson/Lancashire*/Romanski Taylor (any 4 from)
              Mcglashen Dunne  Iandolo
                      Anderson
            Richards*  Young

* if fit

Brighton blokey is contracted, albeit loan.
     


We are going to get hammered down our left in that formation?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, July 5, 2018, 13:18:31
Reg, will you get out of Batch.....

I did think 'very Reg' as I wrote it. Its still right though isn't it.

We are going to get hammered down our left in that formation?

Nobody stipulated sensible formations


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Private Fraser on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 16:16:32
Not what we wanted to hear....

https://twitter.com/mattdavies25/status/1017055203064008704?s=21



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 16:21:22
Not what we wanted to hear....

https://twitter.com/mattdavies25/status/1017055203064008704?s=21



We knew that Woolery was out for a while, as he was due to be moved on... however Richards is a bit longer than expected.

We do have the Fulham kid, Twine and Keshi up front.... and as was debated yesterday the idea we are weaker than last season is just me being silly  :)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 16:23:05
Where is that panic button?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 16:25:15
Better now then after the window is closed.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 16:26:13
Where is that panic button?

The panic button only comes into use after the alarm bell has been warmed up. Still 3 weeks to go yet, so we might get in some credible reinforcements.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 16:32:24
Better now then after the window is closed.
Absolutely.

The panic button only comes into use after the alarm bell has been warmed up. Still 3 weeks to go yet, so we will definately get in some credible reinforcements.
Corrected for you.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 16:54:18
It's quite scary that if Costanza's work is correct, only 3 players (McGlashan, Woolery & Anderson) are under contract beyond the end of the season  :no:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 17:02:40
It's quite scary that if Costanza's work is correct, only 3 players (McGlashan, Woolery & Anderson) are under contract beyond the end of the season  :no:
And I'd happily say adiós to all 3.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 17:04:03
And I'd happily say adiós to all 3.
It's good to see you've given McGlashan a chance  :D


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 17:05:31
It's good to see you've given McGlashan a chance  :D
I'm an early adopter. When I have seen him.play he's been a cheating whining fucker.


Title: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 21:46:33
missed this in all the England stuff. now confirmed by club Richards probably out for 2+ months

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2018/july/injury-update-richards-set-for-spell-out/ (https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2018/july/injury-update-richards-set-for-spell-out/)

brilliant, no goalscorers left. Hope they get someone soon as I'm starting to get a very bad feeling about this season


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Riddick on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 07:23:07
Considering Taylor is best at LB our first choice back 4 looks okay, though there is no cover. We have the numbers in attack though who knows if we have the goals outside the injured and 36 year old Richards. My biggest worry is midfield, need 2 or 3 players there immediately.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Family at War on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 07:30:15
Very unfortunate, Richards gets a new job as a coach with Northampton and can't play for us for 3 months?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Riddick on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 07:44:02
Just read that story. Seems a tad strange in truth.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 08:19:39
Footballer getting an injury? Can't be right, must be a conspiracy.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 08:31:51
I was right in front of the incident at Melksham and Richards fell very awkwardly.

Zero conspiracy.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 08:33:15
missed this in all the England stuff. now confirmed by club Richards probably out for 2+ months

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2018/july/injury-update-richards-set-for-spell-out/ (https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2018/july/injury-update-richards-set-for-spell-out/)

brilliant, no goalscorers left. Hope they get someone soon as I'm starting to get a very bad feeling about this season

The fact that we look so lacking, does make me think that there must be a couple of decent signings lined up as well as filling up the quota of loan kids.  However PB showed a willingness to give some of the youth team a chance last season, so maybe he'll just use them to plug the gaps.


Title: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 08:49:15
I still think there is more to come in.
But the clock is ticking, I'd have thought they'd be in by now to be honest.

in the quotes, Brown did say he's opened the shopping list for a striker. Frankly I'm surprised it wasn't already open.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 08:51:56
Quote from: Riddick
Just read that story. Seems a tad strange in truth.

Which aspect of it, the injury, the bit about him coming back motivated or something else?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 08:57:00
I was right in front of the incident at Melksham and Richards fell very awkwardly.

Zero conspiracy.
When Richards was walking down the tunnel, James Dunne, from the stand, asked Richards what he’d done. Richards reply was ‘something in my shoulder cracked, it’s fucked’

Clearly that was a planned cover up.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Panda Paws on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 09:04:41
What is it with our strikers and shoulders...


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 09:15:12
Footballer getting an injury? Can't be right, must be a conspiracy.

Probably Novichok?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Chippy Red on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 09:27:28
Easy to add rubbish players. Can only hope we are after some decent additions that are a bit harder to get as other clubs interested to.  Power must know if we start the season with an under 21 team and get beat he will have to stick his tin hat on fast.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 09:52:37
Easy to add rubbish players. Can only hope we are after some decent additions that are a bit harder to get as other clubs interested to.  Power must know if we start the season with an under 21 team and get beat he will have to stick his tin hat on fast.

 As things stand, for our opener v Macc..... 

                                                           Vigs

                                         Knoyle, Robertson, Romanski, Taylor
                                             
                                            McGlashan, Smith, Alzate
                                                 
                                                Twine, Elijah, Keshi
                                                 


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 09:58:07
3 weeks to go, this will not be the team that faces Macc thats pretty obvious really.

At the same stage of the season last year we had 1 fit striker in Norris (with Twine and 2 trialists playing) Mullin wasn't fit and a midfield of Dunne, Linganzi and Starkey.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 10:14:25
3 weeks to go, this will not be the team that faces Macc thats pretty obvious really.

At the same stage of the season last year we had 1 fit striker in Norris (with Twine and 2 trialists playing) Mullin wasn't fit and a midfield of Dunne, Linganzi and Starkey.

We signed Harry Smith exactly a year ago, and the season's opener a bit later.... think Paul Mullin was also here.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 10:18:53
3 weeks to go, this will not be the team that faces Macc thats pretty obvious really.

At the same stage of the season last year we had 1 fit striker in Norris (with Twine and 2 trialists playing) Mullin wasn't fit and a midfield of Dunne, Linganzi and Starkey.

Please don't ruin it, he is just reaching the vinegar strokes...  ::)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 10:19:29
We did sign Smith just after but do you honestly think we won't sign any new players before the first game of the season? honestly?

I think there will be at least 4 or 5 new signings before then, possibly 3 more loans in that number but I don't think for one minute we won't sign 1 or more perms too.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 10:23:44
Discussing the strength of the squad as it is pointless.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 10:25:09
Discussing the strength of the squad as it is pointless.
It is, lets judge it the day before the 1st game of the season.

Its impossible to say if we are weaker now than last year because we haven't made all of our signings yet.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Abrahammer on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 10:28:37
Discussing the strength of the squad as it is pointless.

Unless you have a certain narrative to peddle


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 10:32:23
We did sign Smith just after but do you honestly think we won't sign any new players before the first game of the season? honestly?

I think there will be at least 4 or 5 new signings before then, possibly 3 more loans in that number but I don't think for one minute we won't sign 1 or more perms too.

Well there seems to be a couple of the trialists unaccounted for, so they could be possibles and I'm sure we'll get the full quota of loan kids.... but we've 2 in my opening side already, and in Div 4, I'd say playing more than that is risky.

My main aim in watching te squad develop, is in trying to gauge what Powr is up to..... for me there's been nothing yet that suggests a serious attempt at getting out of Div 4 upwardly.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 10:32:34
Unless you have a certain narrative to peddle

(https://media0.giphy.com/media/7MnhsCyVGOl56/giphy.gif)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 10:32:48
Unless you have a certain narrative to peddle

Quite.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Berniman on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 10:33:05
You could copy & paste this discussion and just set is as auto post at this time of the year every year..


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 10:43:25
My main aim in watching te squad develop, is in trying to gauge what Powr is up to..... for me there's been nothing yet that suggests a serious attempt at getting out of Div 4 upwardly.
TBF to Power (unusual I know for most Town fans) but not that many teams have made what could be classed as "good L2 quality" signings, MKD have signed a few Exeter players when you would have thought they would be big hitters in this league.

Exeter have signed a couple of proven players but nothing that could be classed as good, Cheltenham have signed 9 players, all jobbing L2 players, FGR also signed a few but none would be classed as very good for this level.

Of the other big spending teams, only Lincoln signing an unfit 29 year old Akinde for silly money and silly wages which mostly came from 2 trips to Wembley last season, and a Mansfield team who are hell bent on going bust if the wages offered to their new signings is to be believed (Preston apparently almost doubled his wage offer from Swindon and Tyler Walker said to be on £5k per week loan with Mansfield covering all of that, Khan more than doubled his Yeovil wage to sign for them) craig Davies who was Oldhams highest earner last season also joining them.

Only Mansfield can be said to have made several good signings for this league, so far, and my God how I would love it if they royally fucked up under Flipflop again this term.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 10:48:21
You could copy & paste this discussion and just set is as auto post at this time of the year every year..

Here's a provisional XI which played a behind closed doors game v Oldham, more or less exactly a year ago give or take a day....

 Vigs
Purkiss, Robertson (Conroy), Lancashire, Hussey (T Smith)
Dunne, Thomas (Iandolo), Lingnazi (Trialist)
Mullin (McDermott) , Norris (H Smith), Goddard (Brophy


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 11:00:30
(https://media3.giphy.com/media/oaZk0WNSO7fXi/giphy-downsized.gif)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 11:03:17
(https://i.imgur.com/BulxPvR.gif)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 11:27:33
TBF to Power (unusual I know for most Town fans) but not that many teams have made what could be classed as "good L2 quality" signings, MKD have signed a few Exeter players when you would have thought they would be big hitters in this league.

Exeter have signed a couple of proven players but nothing that could be classed as good, Cheltenham have signed 9 players, all jobbing L2 players, FGR also signed a few but none would be classed as very good for this level.

Of the other big spending teams, only Lincoln signing an unfit 29 year old Akinde for silly money and silly wages which mostly came from 2 trips to Wembley last season, and a Mansfield team who are hell bent on going bust if the wages offered to their new signings is to be believed (Preston apparently almost doubled his wage offer from Swindon and Tyler Walker said to be on £5k per week loan with Mansfield covering all of that, Khan more than doubled his Yeovil wage to sign for them) craig Davies who was Oldhams highest earner last season also joining them.

Only Mansfield can be said to have made several good signings for this league, so far, and my God how I would love it if they royally fucked up under Flitcroft again this term.
I’d say Notts County have signed good players too. David Vaughan and Kane Hemmings.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Panda Paws on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 11:29:31
I’d say Notts County have signed good players too. James Vaughan and Kane Hemmings.

David Vaughan


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 11:32:31
David Vaughan
That’s the one, still an impressive signing though.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 11:36:07
I’d say Notts County have signed good players too. David Vaughan and Kane Hemmings.
David Vaughan is 35 and a half, he was good a few years back. Imagine if PB had signed him? the fans would be saying we are signing Dads Army.

And Kane Hemmings has only scored 14 league goals in the last 2 seasons(60+ games), not THAT good really.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Panda Paws on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 11:38:29
That’s the one, still an impressive signing though.

Absolutely! They signed Kristian Dennis and Enzio Boldewijn too among others too. On paper, 3 weeks to go, they're up there with Mansfield.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 11:42:06
Absolutely! They signed Kristian Dennis and Enzio Boldewijn too among others too. On paper, 3 weeks to go, they're up there with Mansfield.
Boldewijn also only scored 15 goals in his last 90 games in L2 but Dennis isn't a bad signing, although both cost a combined fee of around £300k with Hemmings costing around £80k too, thats a fair amount for this league.

Can't say I was overly impressed with Boldewijn in the away game at Crawley either.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: leftside on Thursday, July 12, 2018, 19:22:26
TBF to Power (unusual I know for most Town fans) but not that many teams have made what could be classed as "good L2 quality" signings, MKD have signed a few Exeter players when you would have thought they would be big hitters in this league.

Exeter have signed a couple of proven players but nothing that could be classed as good, Cheltenham have signed 9 players, all jobbing L2 players, FGR also signed a few but none would be classed as very good for this level.

Of the other big spending teams, only Lincoln signing an unfit 29 year old Akinde for silly money and silly wages which mostly came from 2 trips to Wembley last season, and a Mansfield team who are hell bent on going bust if the wages offered to their new signings is to be believed (Preston apparently almost doubled his wage offer from Swindon and Tyler Walker said to be on £5k per week loan with Mansfield covering all of that, Khan more than doubled his Yeovil wage to sign for them) craig Davies who was Oldhams highest earner last season also joining them.

Only Mansfield can be said to have made several good signings for this league, so far, and my God how I would love it if they royally fucked up under Flitcroft again this term.
I can't believe he chose to sign for Mansfield for the £££, surely it was because the Town fans were a tad grumpy.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, July 17, 2018, 13:53:14
THE CURRENT SQUAD


GOALKEEPERS

(http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicVIGOUROL.jpg) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicHENRYWIL.jpg) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicBlank.jpg)

1. Lawrence Vigouroux (2019)
12. Will Henry (2019)
28. Luke McCormick (2019)

DEFENDERS

(http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicROBERTS1.jpg) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicLANCASHO.jpg) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicBlank.jpg)
(http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicKNOYLEKY.jpg) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicCONROYDI.jpg) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicBlank.jpg)

5. Chris Robertson (2019)
6. Olly Lancashire (2019)
23. Joe Romanski (2019)
24. Kyle Knoyle (2019)
25. Dion Conroy (2019)

MIDFIELDERS

(http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicDUNNEJAM.jpg) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicIANDOLOE.jpg) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicYOUNGJOR.jpg) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicTAYLORMA.jpg)
(http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicBlank.jpg) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicBlank.jpg) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicBlank.jpg) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicBlank.jpg) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicBlank.jpg)

8. James Dunne (2019)
14. Ellis Iandolo (2019)
26. Jordan Young (2019)
31. Matthew Taylor (2019)
35. Jordan Edwards (2019)
--. Steven Alzate (SL)
--. Jak McCourt (2019)
--. Jermaine McGlashan (2020)
--. Martin Smith (2019)

FORWARDS

(http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicRICHARDM.jpg) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicWOOLERYK.jpg) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicTWINESCO.jpg)
(http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicANDERSOK.jpg) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicBlank.jpg) (http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicBlank.jpg)

17. Marc Richards (2019)
22. Kaiyne Woolery (2020)
27. Scott Twine (2019)
30. Keshi Anderson (2020)
--. Sol Pryce (2019)
--. Elijah Adebayo (SL)


NOTE: There may be some errors.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Tuesday, July 17, 2018, 14:53:04
Alzate??


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: leftside on Tuesday, July 17, 2018, 20:36:24
Alzate??
Not out.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 17, 2018, 21:28:12
:)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 18, 2018, 08:01:53
Not out.
This made me chuckle.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, August 2, 2018, 13:50:10
Richards expected to be back in 3 weeks. he's doing some training now. Not sure if that's match ready ..

Robertson 6-8.

according to Mrs B, who is picking up the kids from their holiday course at the CG - they are the players meeting the kids


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Thursday, August 2, 2018, 15:55:18
Not sure if I've missed this but has the captaincy/squad numbers been announced?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Private Fraser on Thursday, August 2, 2018, 16:02:18
Haven't seen them announced yet (very late this year) but the OS piece on Nelson says he will wear No 5.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: THE FLASH on Thursday, August 2, 2018, 16:13:14
Robertson out is a bonus.....



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, August 2, 2018, 16:16:21
Haven't seen them announced yet (very late this year) but the OS piece on Nelson says he will wear No 5.

Website hasn't been remotely updated....

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/teams/first-team/

Seems to be a sign of the times that they don't do the team pic or the player pics until a few games into the season, I assume after the window has 'slammed shut'!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, August 2, 2018, 16:23:26
1. Lawrence Vigouroux
2. Kyle Knoyle
3. Michael Doughty
4. Jak McCourt
5. Sid Nelson
6. Olly Lancashire
7. Jermaine McGlashan
8. James Dunne
9. Marc Richards
10. Keshi Anderson
11. Steven Alzate
12. Will Henry
14. Ellis Iandolo
15. Chris Robertson
16. Martin Smith
17. Elijah Adebayo
20. Toumani Diagouraga
21. Jordan Young
22. Kaiyne Woolery
23. Luke McCormick
24. Scott Twine
25. Joe Romanski
26. Dion Conroy
27. Jordan Edwards
28. Sol Pryce
31. Matty Taylor


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Riddick on Thursday, August 2, 2018, 16:27:27
Players taking obviously wrong numbers for their positions really annoys me, why the he'll does Doughty take 3!? Should have taken 18 instead.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Samdy Gray on Friday, August 3, 2018, 09:49:14
why the he'll does Doughty take 3!?

To annoy you, obviously.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Kinky Tom on Friday, August 3, 2018, 16:51:13
Lancs confirmed as captain once again.  No official vice captain in place.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Private Fraser on Friday, August 3, 2018, 17:11:36
Lancs confirmed as captain once again.  No official vice captain in place.

Can see him starting tomorrow.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, August 4, 2018, 08:39:34
Lancs confirmed as captain once again.  No official vice captain in place.
I think that will go to Taylor and Richards shared.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Kinky Tom on Saturday, August 4, 2018, 08:41:46
I think that will go to Taylor and Richards shared.

Agreed


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Kinky Tom on Thursday, August 9, 2018, 17:22:20
Richards due to start full training tomorrow.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, August 31, 2018, 09:13:59
Wollery's back in training.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Quagmire on Friday, August 31, 2018, 09:59:07
Wollery's back in training.

 :D
I really wish that was his name.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, August 31, 2018, 10:26:20
Ha, would make for some good chants.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: RobertT on Friday, August 31, 2018, 12:16:32
I don't know why but "Fweeee Wodewick" came to mind.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Batch on Friday, August 31, 2018, 12:25:32
Welease Wodewick. He a wobber, and a wapist, and a pick pocket.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Amir on Friday, August 31, 2018, 13:43:00
There's got to be a great chant for Woolery to the celery song.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Super Hans on Friday, August 31, 2018, 13:46:25
There's got to be a great chant for Woolery to the celery song.
He'll stick it in your net and make your mrs wet?

 :shrug:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Batch on Friday, August 31, 2018, 13:48:18
Quote from: Amir
There's got to be a great chant for Woolery to the celery song.
if by great you mean replace celery with Woolery then you could be in to something ;)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: RobertT on Friday, August 31, 2018, 17:46:15
So, all done, squad confirmed then.

Keeper - a better Vigs > Everyone from last season (hope it lasts)
Defence - lost Preston, Hussey, Purkiss and Irish chappy, got Nelson & Woolfendon - not clear yet, possibly weaker, maybe the new guy tilts it back.
Midfield - I'll sumo wrestle anyone who suggests this area is not better than last season.
Forwards - Lost Norris and Mullin, gained Adebayo and McGlashan - so/so.  I like the prospect of this years, and Doughty has almost replaced all of Norris' returns on the penalty front.  Mullin is a bit of a loss I think, could have done with him at Crawley for example.  But I like what the two new guys bring and will be interesting to see how Woollery fits with them as well.

Overall, I reckon it is a marginal improvement.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, August 31, 2018, 17:51:01
I would say at least on a par if not a slight improvement as you say, if we do indeed sign Ferdinand then I would say a definate improvement.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Super Hans on Friday, August 31, 2018, 18:05:42
Left back is my biggest concern. If Taylor gets injured we're struggling.

Should be well enough covered in all other areas until January.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Batch on Friday, August 31, 2018, 19:12:31
I still think we could do with a striker and a left back to be 'up there'.

Gut feeling is anywhere from playoffs down to upper bottom half.. Bit wide ranging but reflects the unknowns!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, August 31, 2018, 19:23:57
LB for me is a major concern, Taylor fit or not.

His dead ball deliveries have not warranted his place in the side this season so far and defensively Macclesfield, Lincoln, Crawley and FGR have exploited his weakness by channeling their attacks down our left side against him.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: RobertT on Friday, August 31, 2018, 20:32:47
I think a forward would be a nice to have, left back is the main area of weakness I concur with, central defence is an open question awaiting an answer.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, September 10, 2018, 11:26:17
Interesting to read that Adebayo's full name is;

Elijah Anuoluwapo Oluwaferanmi Oluwatomi Oluwalana Ayomikulehin Adebayo


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: hefty toe on Monday, September 10, 2018, 11:40:19
Might it be the case that the reason we haven't signed a left back is because Shane Griffin is reportedly signing for us in January?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Batch on Monday, September 10, 2018, 11:49:12
Quote from: horlock07
Interesting to read that Adebayo's full name is;

Elijah Anuoluwapo Oluwaferanmi Oluwatomi Oluwalana Ayomikulehin Adebayo
did you fall asleep on your keyboard mid sentence?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: pauld on Monday, September 10, 2018, 11:59:23
Interesting to read that Adebayo's full name is;

Elijah Anuoluwapo Oluwaferanmi Oluwatomi Oluwalana Ayomikulehin Adebayo
I want to get a shirt with his full name on the back!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Red Frog on Monday, September 10, 2018, 12:13:10
Interesting to read that Adebayo's full name is;

Elijah Anuoluwapo Oluwaferanmi Oluwatomi Oluwalana Ayomikulehin Adebayo

EAOOOAA
Up the Football League we go...  :harp:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, September 10, 2018, 12:19:25
Elijah Anuoluwapo Oluwaferanmi Oluwatomi Oluwalana Ayomikulehin Adebayo
When naming him, his mum and dad were playing Countdown....
"I'll have a consonant please, a vowel please, a consonant please, a vowel please..." ad infinitum.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, October 10, 2018, 15:38:18
Jordan Edwards goes on loan to Chippenham


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, October 10, 2018, 15:48:16
Jordan Edwards goes on loan to Chippenham
He looked quite handy in his appearance against Accrington last season, hopefully it will improve him as a player.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, October 11, 2018, 17:15:49
Both Doughty and Nelson possibles to be included in Saturday’s squad. Woolery a definite. So says Brown.

Be surprised if either of the first 2 actually started but another 30 minutes from Woolery would be good.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: suttonred on Thursday, October 11, 2018, 21:11:52
Well sounds like he's close to being able to name his strongest side for the first time since he's been here. That might tell us where we are if he can keep them together for 5-6 games.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Thursday, October 11, 2018, 21:31:00
Well sounds like he's close to being able to name his strongest side for the first time since he's been here. That might tell us where we are if he can keep them together for 5-6 games.

Been my thought for a while (even if it was 3-5-3 for a while). Now no serious injuries and no stupid suspensions and a bit of a click. Could make for very interesting viewing come November.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, November 9, 2018, 16:01:39
Will Henry joins Supermarine on loan


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: singingiiiffy on Tuesday, November 13, 2018, 20:07:36
any injury updates on the likes of toumani, woolery and doughty? seems like ages since we have had a first choice 11 available


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, November 13, 2018, 20:14:42
No idea, but I suspect that one or two of those will be making speedier than expected recoveries in the coming days.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Tuesday, November 13, 2018, 20:19:01
Didn’t one of the ITK’s suggest Tounami was in some bother with the police...anyone able to enlighten us?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Exiled Bob on Tuesday, November 13, 2018, 20:23:04
Didn’t one of the ITK’s suggest Tounami was in some bother with the police...anyone able to enlighten us?
We were rather hoping you could Chang. You being the original ITK and all.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Nijholts Nuts on Tuesday, November 13, 2018, 20:29:25
There will probably be some remarkable recoveries in the coming days, I should well imagine.


Title: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, November 13, 2018, 20:31:43
Quote
Didn’t one of the ITK’s suggest Tounami was in some bother with the police...anyone able to enlighten us?
I can tell you the rumour. But absolutely only a rumour off a friend of a friend dish the pub stuff.

Allegedly arrested for p'ing in the back of a taxi while bladdered, later released.


Whatever happened something must explain why brown picked McCourt and dropped him from the squad.  I'd assumed bust up over Cambridge gaff.

I do think he'd genuinly injured now though. went off early in the Cheltenham game, sounded like a 2-4 week thigh tear. we'll see


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Tuesday, November 13, 2018, 20:35:23
We were rather hoping you could Chang. You being the original ITK and all.
I’m well out of the loop now unfortunately....long gone are the days when i’d reel off our targets with outstanding accuracy    :no:

Batch - interesting....


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, November 13, 2018, 20:40:13
as I say, could be a bored fan making the whole thing up. Doesn't much matter


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Tuesday, November 13, 2018, 20:59:31
Indeed, I always enjoy far fetched rumours about players’ conduct. Last seasons favourite being the Flitcroft/Vigs Indian takeaway tale.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, November 13, 2018, 21:09:01
Quote from: Dr Pierre Chang
Indeed, I always enjoy far fetched rumours about players’ conduct. Last seasons favourite being the Flitcroft/Vigs Indian takeaway tale.
the what?

the caught having a beer one?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Tuesday, November 13, 2018, 21:18:05
Yeah, caught on the piss in Old Town when Flitters was picking up a takeaway


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Tuesday, November 13, 2018, 21:28:49
Yeah, caught on the piss in Old Town when Flitters was picking up a takeaway
Just proves what a fat cunt Flitcroft was.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Exiled Bob on Wednesday, November 14, 2018, 01:03:22
 :pint:
Yeah, caught on the piss in Old Town when Flitters was picking up a takeaway
Are you reverting to ITK Chang mode?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, November 14, 2018, 10:44:55
I am sure that they mentioned on the radio on Saturday that Dave got injured in the closed door friendly last week, came off after 30 mins, thigh strain, expected to be out for 4 weeks.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, November 14, 2018, 10:47:59
Quote from: Batch
I do think he'd genuinly injured now though. went off early in the Cheltenham game, sounded like a 2-4 week thigh tear. we'll see

I refer the gentlemen to my previous ramblings


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, November 14, 2018, 10:52:03
Indeed, I always enjoy making up far fetched rumours about players’ conduct. Last seasons favourite being the Flitcroft/Vigs Indian takeaway tale.

Corrected for you....


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, November 14, 2018, 12:15:34
I refer the gentlemen to my previous ramblings

My bad, I didn't read back..


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, November 14, 2018, 12:17:27
My bad, I didn't read back..

I don't blame you, most of my posts are bollocks.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Wednesday, November 14, 2018, 12:53:47
Corrected for you....
Aside from last night you’d do very well to find a single post from myself where I’ve relayed an off field story about player conduct.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, November 14, 2018, 15:08:35
I don't blame you, most of my posts are bollocks.


:D


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, December 30, 2018, 12:20:54
THE CURRENT SQUAD


GOALKEEPERS

1. Lawrence Vigouroux (2019)
12. Will Henry (2019)
23. Luke McCormick (2019)

DEFENDERS

2. Kyle Knoyle (2019)
5. Sid Nelson (6ML)
6. Olly Lancashire (2019)
15. Chris Robertson (2019)
25. Joe Romanski (2019)
26. Dion Conroy (2019)
32. Luke Woolfenden (SL)

MIDFIELDERS

3. Michael Doughty (2020)
4. Jak McCourt (2019)
7. Jermaine McGlashan (2020)
8. James Dunne (2019)
14. Ellis Iandolo (2019)
16. Martin Smith (2019)
20. Toumani Diagouraga (2020)
21. Jordan Young (2019)
27. Jordan Edwards (2019)
31. Matthew Taylor (2019)

FORWARDS

9. Marc Richards (2019)
10. Keshi Anderson (2020)
17. Elijah Adebayo (SL)
22. Kaiyne Woolery (2020)
24. Scott Twine (2019)
27. Sol Pryce (2019)
-- . Noel Hunt

NOTE: There may be some errors.

Our key defender, in typical Town fashion, could end January anything from being signed permanently to being recalled.

Everyone else, I think, is locked in until the summer so the club are either going to make the squad bigger or get contracted players out.

I predict Martin Smith to move on in some capacity. Maybe Chris Robertson. Sol Pryce and Jordan Young might go out on loan (depending on who Wellens can bring in).

Not expecting mass changes even if we need it. If Nelson signs permanently then that's two loans Town can go for on top of any additional permanent signings (won't hold my breath).


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Sunday, December 30, 2018, 13:11:55
Reckon Romanski will go out on loan, if & when, a new LB is signed. If RW is keen on wing backs then I don't see a role for McGlashan & wouldn't be surprised if we try & move him on. Also think we'll offload Richards if the opportunity arises & think it's likely that one of the CM's will leave given that RW has actively quoted that he's after another CDM. Hopefully he'll change his stance on that once Diagouraga is fit.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Ticker45 on Monday, December 31, 2018, 14:02:32
Chatting to a friend yesterday about Joe Romanski. Apparently there is a clause in his contract for a wage increase when he plays 10 first team games. He is currently on 9 appearances and not on great money but if we are penny pinching and he is not injured, then what has this club become? As said elsewhere probably out on loan tomorrow.  :hmmm:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Bogus Dave on Monday, December 31, 2018, 14:07:43
Id wager him not playing is more to do with him not being good enough at the moment


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: REDBUCK on Monday, December 31, 2018, 14:13:21
And the fact that http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/Person.asp?PersonID=ROMANSKJ appears to indicate 4 league games over two seasons


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Monday, December 31, 2018, 14:48:15
Chatting to a friend yesterday about Joe Romanski. Apparently there is a clause in his contract for a wage increase when he plays 10 first team games. He is currently on 9 appearances and not on great money but if we are penny pinching and he is not injured, then what has this club become? As said elsewhere probably out on loan tomorrow.  :hmmm:
Pretty sure there was a similar situation with Robin Hulbert in the late 90's.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, December 31, 2018, 16:58:13
Pretty sure there was a similar situation with Robin Hulbert in the late 90's.

That's a good name, he was flagged up as a wonderkid.... but wasn't. We did get a bit of a fee for him in the 99/00 fire sale mind. £25K from Shitty. 

 Hulbert had a career, a mixture of non league and PV, so not much difference.

As  regards Joe R.... I noticed him hobbling about t'other day so likely injured atm.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Private Fraser on Monday, December 31, 2018, 17:16:57
Romanski travelled with the first team on Saturday and was out on the pitch before the game and at half time warming up with Pryce.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, January 25, 2019, 10:15:32
Romanski joins Bath City for the rest of the season on loan.

Quote
Meanwhile Joe Romanski will spend the rest of the season on loan at National League South club Bath City, who are currently third in the division and chasing promotion.

Wellens hopes watching Romanski play in first-team games at Twerton Park will help him record a greater understanding of what position best suits the Town teenager.

“Joe Romanski has gone to Bath City, which is good for him,” confirmed Wellens.

He can still train with us every day, which is important for him because it means he doesn’t have to move.

It’s a youth loan, so we can recall him at any stage. Joe is a really talented player and physicaly very good.

But I need to watch him to find out what his best position is – and I’m not prepared to put him in the first team at the moment to find that out.

We’ll watch all of his games for Bath, hopefully that will give me a good indication at the end of his loan spell with regards to what his best position is.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, January 25, 2019, 10:29:47
Pretty sure there was a similar situation with Robin Hulbert in the late 90's.
Just noticed this, the issue with Hulbert was we had to bung Everton a bit of extra cash if he played x number of games...


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Costanza on Friday, January 25, 2019, 11:20:52
I’d be very surprised if Romanski had such a clause as a first/second year pro. Especially after only 10 senior appearances.

...and it wouldn’t be earth shattering sums either.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, January 25, 2019, 11:29:32
Romanski may well have a pay increase after he reaches 10 games, that said I doubt it will be more than £100 a week probably at his age.

Wellens seems to like him but just wants him to get more game time, Conference South is his level at the moment and he should do ok there, if he does well then National League loan for next season, if he doesn't do well then off you fuck.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Tails on Friday, January 25, 2019, 11:51:33
Chatting to a friend yesterday about Joe Romanski. Apparently there is a clause in his contract for a wage increase when he plays 10 first team games. He is currently on 9 appearances and not on great money but if we are penny pinching and he is not injured, then what has this club become? As said elsewhere probably out on loan tomorrow.  :hmmm:

Your friend is talking shit


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, January 25, 2019, 12:20:26
lolz.

Do the signings so far this window and appointments like Jewell and Shirtliff really strike anybody as the actions of a 'penny pinching' club. No need to reply, Reg.

Behave. I agree with Tails.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, January 25, 2019, 12:36:01
Do the signings so far this window and appointments like Jewell and Shirtliff really strike anybody as the actions of a 'penny pinching' club.
I don't think any signing or player sale since Power has taken over could be seen as "penny pinching" if the manager (whoever it is) wants a player then Power will get the best deal financially for the club, thats not penny pinching thats just being fiscally responsible.

I don't think an extra £100 a week would break our wage structure! its not like when PdC was signing players on a whim that we floated so close (often over) the FFP limit, thats not likely to happen under Power, ever.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: tans on Wednesday, January 30, 2019, 14:45:51
https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/17396263.chairman-lee-power-close-to-extending-lawrence-vigourouxs-swindon-town-contract-says-manager-richie-wellens/


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, January 30, 2019, 14:48:49
https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/17396263.chairman-lee-power-close-to-extending-lawrence-vigourouxs-swindon-town-contract-says-manager-richie-wellens/

Its just so Power can get more when he sells him.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, January 31, 2019, 13:29:45
https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/17396263.chairman-lee-power-close-to-extending-lawrence-vigourouxs-swindon-town-contract-says-manager-richie-wellens/

I dont think he will sign, keeping his options open to see if there is any interest further up the table, at this level clubs rarely pay a fee for a goalkeeper so if he wants to move he would be better on a free


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: swindonmaniac on Thursday, January 31, 2019, 13:39:07
Its just so Power can get more when he sells him.
Only if someone's prepared to pay for him.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, February 5, 2019, 17:32:30
Did Vigs sign a new contract?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Power to people on Wednesday, February 6, 2019, 12:44:13
Did Vigs sign a new contract?

Nope, and I really don't think he will either


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: tans on Thursday, February 7, 2019, 11:32:31
Wellens not happy in the adver.

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/17415163.swindon-town-manager-richie-wellens-feels-angered-and-frustrated-at-squad-players-who-are-turning-down-loan-moves-away-from-the-club/

Who do we reckon? I doubt its Toums


Title: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, February 7, 2019, 11:42:25
Lancashire?
twine?

Though it read already said Toums turned down the chance to go out on loan a couple of weeks ago I think


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Thursday, February 7, 2019, 11:53:55
Wellens not happy in the adver.

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/17415163.swindon-town-manager-richie-wellens-feels-angered-and-frustrated-at-squad-players-who-are-turning-down-loan-moves-away-from-the-club/

Who do we reckon? I doubt its Toums
Worries me how many players he seems to have a pop at if i am honest. I know some will jump down my throat for it but just do not see this style working these days. It's ok him saying he does not understand the modern player mentality but that is what he is working with


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, February 7, 2019, 11:56:53
Unlikely to be Toums as he states "will benefit from playing at a lower level" Toums has nothing to prove but Twine, Iandolo, Young, Smith and Henry all would.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, February 7, 2019, 12:04:50
Worries me how many players he seems to have a pop at if i am honest. I know some will jump down my throat for it but just do not see this style working these days. It's ok him saying he does not understand the modern player mentality but that is what he is working with

I think it's the pressure of the job, when he came in he mostly talked a lot of sense, gradually becoming a bit more incoherent as the difficulties started to become more apparent.... mostly the historically poor home form and how to man manage players.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, February 7, 2019, 13:10:54
Unlikely to be Toums as he states "will benefit from playing at a lower level" Toums has nothing to prove but Twine, Iandolo, Young, Smith and Henry all would.

More likely to be the likes of Smith and maybe Conroy


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Exiled Bob on Thursday, February 7, 2019, 13:17:46
I think it's the pressure of the job, when he came in he mostly talked a lot of sense, gradually becoming a bit more incoherent as the difficulties started to become more apparent.... mostly the historically poor home form and how to man manage players.
In what way do you think he has become incoherent?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Ticker45 on Thursday, February 7, 2019, 14:28:35
Apparently Waterford is one of the preferred choices for loan player(s) to go to. I wonder whose influence that is?  :hmmm:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Thursday, February 7, 2019, 14:39:27
Apparently Waterford is one of the preferred choices for loan player(s) to go to. I wonder whose influence that is?  :hmmm:
Not true is it though it's just more stuff to hit Power with and it is this kind of rumour that makes it impossible for anyone to actually form any solid opinion on Power these days.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, February 7, 2019, 14:49:11
In what way do you think he has become incoherent?

Not wanting too many loan players, then getting 6.

Saying not thinking of PO's as you can lose 2 games, which is sort of what has happened so the others disappear out of view, then saying Robinson is in for a crack at the PO's

Saying Robinson scores in batches.... he doesn't, as 13 FL goals in 3 and 2/3 seasons testifies.

Correctly pointing out we've been poor at home for several years.... then saying it's because the players can't handle the pressure.... I don't think that is the reason.

It's what happens gaffers come in with good intentions then get taken over by events...... the good ones can sort it out, the no good ones can't, as yet we've no idea as to what sort Wellens is, but I'll say again I reckon he needs 4 home wins, minimum, to suggest next season could be better.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Ticker45 on Thursday, February 7, 2019, 14:53:31
Not true is it though it's just more stuff to hit Power with and it is this kind of rumour that makes it impossible for anyone to actually form any solid opinion on Power these days.

Absolutely not a rumour!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Thursday, February 7, 2019, 15:21:27
Apparently Waterford is one of the preferred choices for loan player(s) to go to. I wonder whose influence that is?  :hmmm:

Vigs


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, February 7, 2019, 15:31:32
Not true is it though it's just more stuff to hit Power with and it is this kind of rumour that makes it impossible for anyone to actually form any solid opinion on Power these days.

Its rubbish anyway, so whats the options for our loan players the National League or lower or the LoI Premier, I imagine that there is little difference in both and at a club that Power controls we will have more control over the way the loanee is played and for recall etc etc.

This Power bashing is getting evermore desperate.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, February 7, 2019, 15:32:21
One player has gone on loan to Waterford. One (1).



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, February 7, 2019, 15:41:09
One player has gone on loan to Waterford. One (1).



Plus its a difficult choice for the player, possibility of playing in Europa League or FA Trophy, its a tough one....


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, February 7, 2019, 17:28:37
I don’t see how Waterford is even that bad a move for the younger squad members.

Vigs was probably too good to go across but he seemed to enjoy it. Tom Smith and Jake Evans have, just about, kept their pro careers going too so it’s not been that detrimental.

I think a trip to Ireland would do Ellis Iandolo and Jordan Young, for example, the world of good. I’d go to Waterford ahead of the National League South.

But yeah, grrrrr Lee Power.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, February 7, 2019, 17:37:43
Tom Smith and Jake Evans

I forgot that they went as well, but it hardly sets the cat among the pigeons.

This is one of those rumours where, if it is the best people have, it suggests things are going quite smoothly.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, February 7, 2019, 17:56:11
I forgot that they went as well, but it hardly sets the cat among the pigeons.

This is one of those rumours where, if it is the best people have, it suggests things are going quite smoothly.

Other than the facts back up Ticker to some extent... it's hardly surprising given that Power owns both clubs..  It will be interesting to see what becomes of Noel Hunt, as I believe the Irish season starts in Feb, and Wellens has got in Lifter for cone duties.  Hunt always looked like a move of conveneience in reverse to Vigs, Smith and Evans.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Thursday, February 7, 2019, 18:09:10
Other than the facts back up Ticker to some extent... it's hardly surprising given that Power owns both clubs..  It will be interesting to see what becomes of Noel Hunt, as I believe the Irish season starts in Feb, and Wellens has got in Lifter for cone duties.  Hunt always looked like a move of conveneience in reverse to Vigs, Smith and Evans.

Could be that RW & Hunt met on a coaching course?
More likely that Power is giving NH a helping hand on the coaching ladder.
Football, like any other employment market, has always operated on the "who you know" network.
Jobs for the boys, call it what you will.

Having said that it, it us unusual for us to have 4 coaches, including Taylor, on board. Five if the GK coach is included.
Will need a bigger dugout at this rate.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Thursday, February 7, 2019, 18:35:13
Having said that it, it us unusual for us to have 4 coaches, including Taylor, on board. Five if the GK coach is included.
Will need a bigger dugout at this rate.

Different time and all that (spending wise, relative to then) but PdC had quite a big one didn't he? Backroom staff that is.

Was it really 6 years ago when the verge of almost guaranteed 2nd Tier football was in clear and confident sight? Only to all come crashing down and be replaced with "Rooaaarrrr!"

 :(


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Thursday, February 7, 2019, 18:54:33
Different time and all that (spending wise, relative to then) but PdC had quite a big one didn't he? Backroom staff that is.

Was it really 6 years ago when the verge of almost guaranteed 2nd Tier football was in clear and confident sight? Only to all come crashing down and be replaced with "Rooaaarrrr!"

 :(

I think it was 4 under PDC including the man himself.

As Reg has said, wouldn't be surprised to see Taylor move on in the summer. Either a PL coaching job in development or some punditry for Sky, or both.

A belief that the good times will come again is what keeps me going. A Rochdale like spell in L2 or worse would be a nightmare scenario.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Exiled Bob on Thursday, February 7, 2019, 22:31:39
Not wanting too many loan players, then getting 6.

Saying not thinking of PO's as you can lose 2 games, which is sort of what has happened so the others disappear out of view, then saying Robinson is in for a crack at the PO's

Saying Robinson scores in batches.... he doesn't, as 13 FL goals in 3 and 2/3 seasons testifies.

Correctly pointing out we've been poor at home for several years.... then saying it's because the players can't handle the pressure.... I don't think that is the reason.

It's what happens gaffers come in with good intentions then get taken over by events...... the good ones can sort it out, the no good ones can't, as yet we've no idea as to what sort Wellens is, but I'll say again I reckon he needs 4 home wins, minimum, to suggest next season could be better.
The only one of those that could possibly be considered incoherent is the one about Robinson scoring in batches. But he may well have been referring to a little spell that Robinson had in April 2018 (I checked) when he scored 5 goals in 4 games. If you go on Soccerbase and check his goalscoring stats you'll see that he does tend to score in batches - he'll score in consecutive games or 2 in 4 games.....the problem is that he doesn't score again for 10-20 games. So Wellens is not actually wrong in his assessment.

He explained in the phone-in the other day why he got loans in. There's no incoherence. He has said many times that he prefers permanent signing rather than loans and he would have preferred to have signed permanents in the January window, but it is not always possible as they are more difficult to find in that window. Loans were all he could get with what he had available in the way of funds (and the quality of the loans was better than the quality of permanent signings that he could have made). Just because he had to do what he prefers not do to doesn't make him incoherent. It just means his options were limited. He also said that some of the loans were with a view to a permanent signing next season so the players are basically on trial for the next few months and could well be permanent signings.

He may have said he wasn't thinking of the play-offs. However, with the signings that he has managed to get he may also think it is a possible "to have a crack". That's not incoherence, it's positive thinking.

As for the home form it's a matter of opinion. He thinks it's because the players can't handle the pressure and I'm sure there are many who agree with him. Just because you don't think that is the reason doesn't make him incoherent. It just means he has a different opinion to yours.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, February 8, 2019, 00:25:45
 Wellens is doing the best he can in the circumstances and he has got us up 3 places in the league which is to his credit...but this is not an easy job.

I'm not expecting a magic wand, he's going to make a lot of mistakes... they all do. The key though is seeing some improvement as a result of your decisions... this particularly in our case applies to the home form, if Theo can get say 4 goals at the CG by May, perhaps we could win 4 games, the sort of minimum requirement. Let's hope it starts on Tuesday


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, February 8, 2019, 09:47:26
The only one of those that could possibly be considered incoherent is the one about Robinson scoring in batches. But he may well have been referring to a little spell that Robinson had in April 2018 (I checked) when he scored 5 goals in 4 games. If you go on Soccerbase and check his goalscoring stats you'll see that he does tend to score in batches - he'll score in consecutive games or 2 in 4 games.....the problem is that he doesn't score again for 10-20 games. So Wellens is not actually wrong in his assessment.

He explained in the phone-in the other day why he got loans in. There's no incoherence. He has said many times that he prefers permanent signing rather than loans and he would have preferred to have signed permanents in the January window, but it is not always possible as they are more difficult to find in that window. Loans were all he could get with what he had available in the way of funds (and the quality of the loans was better than the quality of permanent signings that he could have made). Just because he had to do what he prefers not do to doesn't make him incoherent. It just means his options were limited. He also said that some of the loans were with a view to a permanent signing next season so the players are basically on trial for the next few months and could well be permanent signings.

He may have said he wasn't thinking of the play-offs. However, with the signings that he has managed to get he may also think it is a possible "to have a crack". That's not incoherence, it's positive thinking.

As for the home form it's a matter of opinion. He thinks it's because the players can't handle the pressure and I'm sure there are many who agree with him. Just because you don't think that is the reason doesn't make him incoherent. It just means he has a different opinion to yours.

I'm glad you had the enthusiasm to do this. Was thinking the same but couldn't be bothered calling out more nonsense.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Paolo69 on Friday, February 8, 2019, 09:53:18
But but but....we're not in danger of going down anymore (we never were but you know what i mean) so someone/something else has to take it in the neck. This week's candidate(s) being the new gaffer and our home form.

Good post Exiled Bob and i feel exactly the same Panda.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Friday, February 8, 2019, 10:22:58
But but but....we're not in danger of going down anymore (we never were but you know what i mean) so someone/something else has to take it in the neck. This week's candidate(s) being the new gaffer and our home form.

Good post Exiled Bob and i feel exactly the same Panda.
My post was to be fair more abouti am concerned the way he seems to marginalise players quite quickly and publicly. On the pitch so far i am happy enough i just worry about the public moaning about players.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, February 8, 2019, 10:24:50
I agree fully with Exiled Bob too, more reason for optimism than pessimism for me at the moment, I was against his appointment initially but hes doing things fairly well so far, of course there are blips, but I for one am far more optimistic than I was under the previous 4 or 5 managers.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, February 8, 2019, 10:26:40
My post was to be fair more abouti am concerned the way he seems to marginalise players quite quickly and publicly. On the pitch so far i am happy enough i just worry about the public moaning about players.
I understand what you are saying mate, players these days seem to respond less well to having problems aired in public unlike the older days, with players mollycoddled far more now than ever before.

I think Wellens has weighed up the players already and knows which ones will respond better to that style and some that won't, hence not naming them but hinting to them.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, February 8, 2019, 10:36:09
The only potential damage he could do by talking negatively about fringe players is alienating them before releasing them.

He's already said the squad is too big. It'll be a quality over quantity approach next year, so think we'll see the back of people like Iandolo, and if the kids don't go out on load and develop, they'll be released at the earliest opportunity. Rightly so.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Friday, February 8, 2019, 10:38:05
The only potential damage he could do by talking negatively about fringe players is alienating them before releasing them.

He's already said the squad is too big. It'll be a quality over quantity approach next year, so think we'll see the back of people like Iandolo, and if the kids don't go out on load and develop, they'll be released at the earliest opportunity. Rightly so.
Can't argue with that if it works mate.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, February 8, 2019, 10:39:15
I'm glad you had the enthusiasm to do this. Was thinking the same but couldn't be bothered calling out more nonsense.

Right let me see if I've got this right... on the one occasion in the last 6 seasons that EB mentioned when Theo scored in 3 games out of 4.... that justifies him scoring in "batches". Sorry don't see it.  Interestingly in that trot, he scored v Oldham managed by Wellens.  I'm sure Theo brings something, but a goal rush doesn't look to be likely on the past 6 years.

EB maintains Wellens is right in his interpretation, yet a scan of the stats reveals one other occasion in the last 6 years where Theo scored in back to back games.

Call it nonsense if you want, but I don't think it is and will continue to try and interpret the facts.



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, February 8, 2019, 11:30:20
Right let me see if I've got this right... on the one occasion in the last 6 seasons that EB mentioned when Theo scored in 3 games out of 4.... that justifies him scoring in "batches". Sorry don't see it.  Interestingly in that trot, he scored v Oldham managed by Wellens.  I'm sure Theo brings something, but a goal rush doesn't look to be likely on the past 6 years.

EB maintains Wellens is right in his interpretation, yet a scan of the stats reveals one other occasion in the last 6 years where Theo scored in back to back games.

Call it nonsense if you want, but I don't think it is and will continue to try and interpret the facts.



I'm fine with people interpreting facts. It's the huge leap in logic from this interpretation of fact v a manager's pre-match press conference to the statement that RW is "increasingly incoherent".

That is nonsense.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, February 8, 2019, 11:36:07
Reg spouting shite?

Shocking


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Exiled Bob on Friday, February 8, 2019, 11:48:33
Right let me see if I've got this right... on the one occasion in the last 6 seasons that EB mentioned when Theo scored in 3 games out of 4.... that justifies him scoring in "batches". Sorry don't see it.  Interestingly in that trot, he scored v Oldham managed by Wellens.  I'm sure Theo brings something, but a goal rush doesn't look to be likely on the past 6 years.

EB maintains Wellens is right in his interpretation, yet a scan of the stats reveals one other occasion in the last 6 years where Theo scored in back to back games.

Call it nonsense if you want, but I don't think it is and will continue to try and interpret the facts.


He also scored a  batch of 7 goals in 14 matches between November 2016 and February 2017.......and 3 in 7 in November/December 2014.

I wouldn't put it outside the bounds of possibilty that these little spells of goalscoring are what Wellens remembers.




Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, February 8, 2019, 12:41:10
He also scored a  batch of 7 goals in 14 matches between November 2016 and February 2017.......and 3 in 7 in November/December 2014.

I wouldn't put it outside the bounds of possibilty that these little spells of goalscoring are what Wellens remembers.

One of which was scored in the FL... 50% of his total for that season, happily the other was v Oxford.

Wellens may remember 12/13, when he was reasonably prolific in Div 2.... but that's quite some time ago in football terms.

Marc Richards for example would have had several hot streaks during that time and duly delivered 5 scoring games in 7, when Flitcroft brought him in yielding 3 consecutive home wins, before Flitcroft bailed.   Wellens is no doubt thinking Theo can do something similar, who knows maybe he will, maybe Wellens can get something out of him, that others haven't in recent years.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Friday, February 8, 2019, 18:00:42
Or maybe, just maybe Theo will chip in with say 4 or 5 goals but he will enable potentially someone like Woolery/Keshi/Doughty a little more freedom to get into the box and shoot on sight. You know, a deterrent. Clubs will be looking more at how to stop Theo creating space  but it could be distraction enough at this level. It may give House (who we've not seen a lot of yet) a little more time on the ball or to be able to nod down/lay off for an on rushing Woolery/Whoever is in the box at the time. Also if Doughty has been taken off I'm sure Theo will be up for taking a penalty or two.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: DiV on Saturday, February 9, 2019, 08:19:44
Sam Parkin scored 4 goals in 40 games for Northampton.

He did a little better for us.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Batch on Saturday, February 9, 2019, 10:01:59
Sam Parkin wasn't 30 with 14 clubs behind him.

bit of a pointless comparison


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: DiV on Saturday, February 9, 2019, 11:39:41
Not really.

Different players perform differently at different club. Any age, any level.


FWIW I think Robinson is an awful player.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Batch on Saturday, February 9, 2019, 11:48:36
obviously I hope he does.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Saturday, February 9, 2019, 13:19:21
Shall we discuss tampons and toilet paper in this thread since we obviously don't want to have squad list discussions anymore?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: donkey on Saturday, February 9, 2019, 13:53:28
Is the toilet paper good for 10 goals between now and the end of the season... if so,  sign him up.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, February 9, 2019, 13:55:03
Is the toilet paper good for 10 goals between now and the end of the season... if so,  sign him up.
Knowing our luck we would only get Tesco value toilet paper and thats not worth the paper its shitted on.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, February 12, 2019, 13:09:53
Scott Twine signs an extention until June 2021.

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2019/february/twine-signs-new-deal/?fbclid=IwAR0MUrjq-wIJrawQSUknaPB7DWMrAvsutFE_6eXnns3emM8z7HHAH-EIWrk


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Bogus Dave on Tuesday, February 12, 2019, 13:16:38
I want to like twine and want him to succeed, but when you compare his performances with other youth teamers who have gone on to make the grade (jutkiewicz, the Thompson’s, bodin, even throw in Austin as well), he looks so far behind them in terms of development


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, February 12, 2019, 13:23:18
Physical development, yes.

On a purely footballing  basis I think he’s very skilful. Get him on 3 Shredded Wheat and he’ll be fine.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, February 12, 2019, 13:31:29
I want to like twine and want him to succeed, but when you compare his performances with other youth teamers who have gone on to make the grade (jutkiewicz, the Thompson’s, bodin, even throw in Austin as well), he looks so far behind them in terms of development

I am not sure anyone, including him, knows where to play him.  That's not good for a youngster trying to break into a first team.  Versatility is a trait that becomes useful after solidifying yourself in a squad - like N Thompson.  Everyone you listed had a clear home in the team, Jutkiewicz was only ever going to be a centre forward, L Thompson was a central midfielder, Bodin was a forward but possibly the closest to Twine when with us.  Based on what I have seen of him, he'd do well to focus on being a wide player, but he's not good enough at it yet.  He wants to get involved so he doesn't look like a central forward player to me.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, February 12, 2019, 13:32:55
I want to like twine and want him to succeed, but when you compare his performances with other youth teamers who have gone on to make the grade (jutkiewicz, the Thompson’s, bodin, even throw in Austin as well), he looks so far behind them in terms of development

Was thinking about Jutkiewicz the other day (not like that!), he has gone on to have a pretty decent career since leaving Town, overall nearly 400 games, majority at Championship and Premier level.

Just to make you all feel old, he turns 30 this year.......


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, February 12, 2019, 13:52:20
Just to make you all feel old, he turns 30 this year.......
I thought similar last week when I saw ex Town loanee Jake Jervis now playing for Wimbledon is 27!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Paolo69 on Tuesday, February 12, 2019, 14:02:30
I want to like twine and want him to succeed, but when you compare his performances with other youth teamers who have gone on to make the grade (jutkiewicz, the Thompson’s, bodin, even throw in Austin as well), he looks so far behind them in terms of development

He's not even 20 yet though Dave. Behind Lukas and Louis at his age maybe but Nathan hadn't got anywhere near the first team at 19 i don't think and Billy was shipped out for not being good enough (since proved to be wrong). There's plenty of room for development for Twine i think, especially as he fills out and gets stronger. Glad he's signed up and shows good intent from the club (and Wellens) IMHO.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, February 12, 2019, 14:05:16
From the very little I have seen, I quite like Twine and think he has something about him. Yes he is slight in build, but he's not bad on the ball and I think shows some decent football intelligence.

Time will tell if he'll make it, but I think he has a decent chance over the next 2 years to kick on and become a first team regular.

Or he'll be like Miles Storey!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, February 12, 2019, 14:30:30
He's not even 20 yet though Dave. Behind Lukas and Louis at his age maybe but Nathan hadn't got anywhere near the first team at 19 i don't think and Billy was shipped out for not being good enough (since proved to be wrong). There's plenty of room for development for Twine i think, especially as he fills out and gets stronger. Glad he's signed up and shows good intent from the club (and Wellens) IMHO.

I didn't realise that Bodin had done his ACL at Preston, having a pretty crappy time of it.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, February 12, 2019, 14:36:07
From the very little I have seen, I quite like Twine and think he has something about him. Yes he is slight in build, but he's not bad on the ball and I think shows some decent football intelligence.

Time will tell if he'll make it, but I think he has a decent chance over the next 2 years to kick on and become a first team regular.

Or he'll be like Miles Storey!

Miles scored a couple of weeks back for Partick, v Q o t S.   When he scored a few for us, briefly he looked like he might have something....sadly it was just an illusion.  As regards Scott Twine, good luck to the lad...


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, February 12, 2019, 14:37:33
I didn't realise that Bodin had done his ACL at Preston, having a pretty crappy time of it.
Yeah he did that pre season, he should be coming back to fitness around now.

He was released by Swindon under Di Canio because he wouldn't add bulk and work on his fitness as much as PdC wanted, seems to have done(mostly) ok for himself since TBF.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Bogus Dave on Tuesday, February 12, 2019, 14:54:33
Bodin was released because Di Canio didn’t like his dad, and I’ll never believe otherwise

I get the calls about giving twine time. He just reminds me of Andy Caton right now


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: ronnie21 on Tuesday, February 12, 2019, 14:56:07
Yeah he did that pre season, he should be coming back to fitness around now.

He was released by Swindon under Di Canio because he wouldn't add bulk and work on his fitness as much as PdC wanted, seems to have done(mostly) ok for himself since TBF.
I think there was a bit more to it than than PV, Paolo didn't want too know much about the youth team and who was in charge of them?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Wednesday, February 13, 2019, 10:08:19
Bodin was released because Di Canio didn’t like his dad, and I’ll never believe otherwise

I get the calls about giving twine time. He just reminds me of Andy Caton right now
100 percent


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, February 13, 2019, 11:28:46
"Apparently Waterford is one of the preferred choices for loan player(s) to go to. I wonder whose influence that is?"

Re Twine.... when Ticker pointed this out earlier (above quote), he got some stick from some of the usual suspects, who felt he was just bashing Power, rather than pointing out a fact.

Does it matter?  Wellens brushed it off as he doesn't want Twine getting kicked around in the Conference or Conference S, but is RoI really any more or less physical? Idon't know


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Paolo69 on Wednesday, February 13, 2019, 13:18:42
We do have players out on loan at other clubs too.

We know he'll be well looked after at Waterford and it will be easy to keep track of his progress. I have no problem with it at all.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, February 13, 2019, 13:26:24
Twine can't go on loan to an English club now anyway can he? The window is closed.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, February 13, 2019, 13:37:03
I think the window doesn't apply to loans to non league


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, February 13, 2019, 13:37:50
I think the window doesn't apply to loans to non league
Indeed, only the top 4 divisions of England. The non league loan window doesnt finish until around March/April time.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, February 13, 2019, 15:26:48
"Apparently Waterford is one of the preferred choices for loan player(s) to go to. I wonder whose influence that is?"

Re Twine.... when Ticker pointed this out earlier (above quote), he got some stick from some of the usual suspects, who felt he was just bashing Power, rather than pointing out a fact.

Does it matter?  Wellens brushed it off as he doesn't want Twine getting kicked around in the Conference or Conference S, but is RoI really any more or less physical? Idon't know

Twine is the only one to go to Waterord, the others to non league, so it's not "preferred".  I thought he explained the reasoning well.  He needs Pryce and Romanski in a battle to toughen them up because that is where they play.  He said Twine isn't a physical player so they wanted him in a more technical league, which he believes the Irish one to be.  I see no issue if it was a preferred option, provided it gets out of player what the manager needs.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Exiled Bob on Wednesday, February 13, 2019, 16:44:37
Twine is the only one to go to Waterord, the others to non league, so it's not "preferred".  I thought he explained the reasoning well.  He needs Pryce and Romanski in a battle to toughen them up because that is where they play.  He said Twine isn't a physical player so they wanted him in a more technical league, which he believes the Irish one to be.  I see no issue if it was a preferred option, provided it gets out of player what the manager needs.
Another example of the manager's increasing "incoherence" presumably....... :hmmm:

I wonder how many of our fans, apart from the increasingly incoherent Reg, would prefer to still have Flitcroft instead of Wellens.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, February 13, 2019, 17:02:50
Another example of the manager's increasing "incoherence" presumably....... :hmmm:

I wonder how many of our fans, apart from the increasingly incoherent Reg, would prefer to still have Flitcroft instead of Wellens.

Possibly, though difficult to say, perhaps Wellens did say to Power I'd like Scott to go to Waterford rather than Power saying to Welllens I'd like Scott to go to Waterford.

As regards the second bit, not of much relevance... a majority on here wanted rid of Fltcroft, despite him having us in a PO slot and 2 points off auto after 32 games.  Wellens has come into a different situation, and so far has done OK.... certainly better than Brown.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, February 13, 2019, 19:15:32
7 wins, 4 draws and 4 defeats, is probably a bit better than OK given what went before (League form).

That's play off form and includes the Carlisle game, closer to Auto form if you were to exclude that one.

Needs to sustain that of course.  The tricky bit is that yesterday was not a typical away performance that we will see normally, can we convert wins in the other games?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Abrahammer on Wednesday, February 13, 2019, 20:02:01
So excluding Carlisle that’s 25 points out of 42, that is clearly pretty good as opposed to ok


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: theakston2k on Wednesday, February 13, 2019, 20:07:11
I like the fact that we're obviously planning for next season with some of the signings but with the likes of Robinson haven't thrown in the towel on this either. Would have been easy to just give up and save the money, but if we match the previous form and get 7 wins and 4 draws from the next 14 would get us to 71 points which is borderline playoffs. We are still outsiders but it's a decent achievement that we are still in the mix considering the mess Brown made of things. Some credit should probably go to Power for the choice and backing Wellens but that's not the fashionable thing to say.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, February 13, 2019, 20:58:29
So excluding Carlisle that’s 25 points out of 42, that is clearly pretty good as opposed to ok

No it's OK, in fact the same as Flitcroft got from his last 15 games.... yet Rob regarded him as someone who was useless and wanted out.

Wellens, of course, has had the problem of having to try and bridge a gap not of his own making


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Frigby Daser on Wednesday, February 13, 2019, 21:12:38
I like the fact that we're obviously planning for next season with some of the signings but with the likes of Robinson haven't thrown in the towel on this either. Would have been easy to just give up and save the money, but if we match the previous form and get 7 wins and 4 draws from the next 14 would get us to 71 points which is borderline playoffs. We are still outsiders but it's a decent achievement that we are still in the mix considering the mess Brown made of things. Some credit should probably go to Power for the choice and backing Wellens but that's not the fashionable thing to say.

Power deserves credit, not just for the Wellens appointment (which I and others knocked) but also got Jewell. The season was flailing - we’ve given ourselves a long shot. In 3 games time let’s hope we’ve all really got the buzz back. If we don’t go up let’s commit some of these players for next year - Koiki certainly, one of the CBs (Woolfenden or Nelson) and once we’ve had more of a look at Robinson, potentially him too.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Abrahammer on Wednesday, February 13, 2019, 21:19:36
No it's OK, in fact the same as Flitcroft got from his last 15 games.... yet Rob regarded him as someone who was useless and wanted out.

Wellens, of course, has had the problem of having to try and bridge a gap not of his own making

No it’s good, it’s a points per game average to put you in 3rd place

Hope this helps



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, February 13, 2019, 21:28:26
No it’s good, it’s a points per game average to put you in 3rd place

Hope this helps



The point is that unfortunately when you're playing catch up, that sort of form isn't likely to be quite good enough... if we get a similar return from the next 14 as from the last we get 71 points.... no chance of 3rd.

Possible chance of a PO place, but GD doesn't help.

What is more sensible is to think is there a chance that Wellens is building something for a tilt on auto next season... and although in the modern game it's difficult to build, there are presently some grounds for optimism.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Abrahammer on Wednesday, February 13, 2019, 21:34:36
To be honest I’m not judging him on league position, which is influenced by what came before him.

I’m judging it purely on results since he arrived. 7 wins & 4 draws from 14 league games with a squad he is only recently been able to start partially calling his own.

That’s a good encouraging start for me


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, February 13, 2019, 21:42:46
To be honest I’m not judging him on league position, which is influenced by what came before him.

I’m judging it purely on results since he arrived. 7 wins & 4 draws from 14 league games with a squad he is only recently been able to start partially calling his own.

That’s a good encouraging start for me

If we could win the next 4 that would put us on 58 with 10 to go, last season we were on 57 with 10 to go, so definitely back in the mix.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, February 14, 2019, 10:18:04
Power deserves credit, not just for the Wellens appointment (which I and others knocked) but also got Jewell. The season was flailing - we’ve given ourselves a long shot. In 3 games time let’s hope we’ve all really got the buzz back. If we don’t go up let’s commit some of these players for next year - Koiki certainly, one of the CBs (Woolfenden or Nelson) and once we’ve had more of a look at Robinson, potentially him too.
Absolutely all of this, I would make sure we get an offer on the table for Robinson ASAP get him tied down for next season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, February 14, 2019, 10:29:24
Power deserves credit, not just for the Wellens appointment (which I and others knocked) but also got Jewell. The season was flailing - we’ve given ourselves a long shot. In 3 games time let’s hope we’ve all really got the buzz back. If we don’t go up let’s commit some of these players for next year - Koiki certainly, one of the CBs (Woolfenden or Nelson) and once we’ve had more of a look at Robinson, potentially him too.

Power will only deserve some credit, when he gets us back up... and that will just be righting the wrong of 16/17, so minimal.

What we might look like in 6 months time is very difficult to tell in the modern lower league game.  I make it we have 17 players out of contract in about 4 and a half months... a further 9 in contract.  Of the 9 4 are probably players you might hope to build an auto squad around.... Doughty, Keshi, Kaiyne and Broadbent.... Toumani in theory might have something to offer, but we haven't seen it so far. McGlashen.... possibly a squad player but no more than that, then the kids Curran and McGilp who we know nothing about, and Scott Twine.

Danny Rose, presumably could get an extension if he proves fitness, and there was talk of Koiki getting a season long loan.   So a small nucleus, and I suppose te possiblity that some of the out of contracts might have impressed Wellens enough to get a new deal.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: RobertT on Thursday, February 14, 2019, 13:43:56
To be clear, I made it known that my dislike of Flitcroft was not logically related to his win record - his team played awful football and I think I also stated it would get us play offs, but no better - that was the limit I saw to his approach.  If his team and Wellens' produce equal results, I'd watch the latter every day of the week.

It's not all roses yet - there are still Crawley games to watch.  The signs are good though


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, February 14, 2019, 13:47:59
To be clear, I made it known that my dislike of Flitcroft was not logically related to his win record - his team played awful football and I think I also stated it would get us play offs, but no better - that was the limit I saw to his approach.  If his team and Wellens' produce equal results, I'd watch the latter every day of the week.

It's not all roses yet - there are still Crawley games to watch.  The signs are good though
100% this for me too.

Its more about his style of management and the football on show not about results.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, February 14, 2019, 14:12:19
To be clear, I made it known that my dislike of Flitcroft was not logically related to his win record - his team played awful football and I think I also stated it would get us play offs, but no better - that was the limit I saw to his approach.  If his team and Wellens' produce equal results, I'd watch the latter every day of the week.

It's not all roses yet - there are still Crawley games to watch.  The signs are good though

Same here. His performance in regard to points was not what you could call terrible. It was actually quite decent.

But fuck me was it dire to watch. Awful. I didn't bother watching most matches. The worst that I can remember... by some distance. I hated the cunt for that.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, February 14, 2019, 15:29:47
To be clear, I made it known that my dislike of Flitcroft was not logically related to his win record - his team played awful football and I think I also stated it would get us play offs, but no better - that was the limit I saw to his approach.  If his team and Wellens' produce equal results, I'd watch the latter every day of the week.

It's not all roses yet - there are still Crawley games to watch.  The signs are good though

As far as I'm concerned results are the stick by which you judge.... last season under Flitcroft there was some right dross, but also on occasions something decent... pretty much what we've got with Wellens.

It's kind of what happens in Div 4, as most players end up there as they can't produce on a regular basis.



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: ferret on Thursday, February 14, 2019, 15:42:35
Same here. His performance in regard to points was not what you could call terrible. It was actually quite decent.

But fuck me was it dire to watch. Awful. I didn't bother watching most matches. The worst that I can remember... by some distance. I hated the cunt for that.

Yep, and the self-righteous arrogance and double standards. For instance, lamenting recently in the media about the absence of loyalty in the modern world, despite the fact that he saw fit to fuck off for a few extra quid within the early stages of his contract a matter of months ago.

Of course, none of us would expect or wish for a club full of angels. But if there's a wanker in charge, who will produce despicable behaviour and despicable football... but we are going to be content with that on the basis that he might generate a  slightly better points ratio in the short term than a leader who is better for the club on so many levels... we might as well all give up and watch the Prem.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, February 14, 2019, 15:52:06
As far as I'm concerned results are the stick by which you judge.... last season under Flitcroft there was some right dross, but also on occasions something decent... pretty much what we've got with Wellens.
I do think you are doing Wellens a massive injustice, we saw more decent football in Wellens first 3 matches than in a whole season under Flipflop.

Yes he may have got results but the football was utterly shocking, I think you could be alone in supporting him with this one, I for one think it was THE worst football I have watched Town play in my 45 years of watching us.

That includes the awful season under Beamish when we were appalling. Despite maybe getting a few results along the way the football was Div 4 at its worst.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: pauld on Thursday, February 14, 2019, 15:54:15
last season under Flitcroft there was some right dross, but also on occasions something decent
Name one. I must have missed those "decent" occasions, we played awful football every time I watched us under Flitcroft. Occasionally it was effective, but it was universally terrible to watch


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, February 14, 2019, 15:55:54
Name one. I must have missed those "decent" occasions, we played awful football every time I watched us under Flitcroft. Occasionally it was effective, but it was universally terrible to watch
Spot on, occassionally effective but never entertaining.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, February 14, 2019, 15:57:05
Yep, and the self-righteous arrogance and double standards. For instance, lamenting recently in the media about the absence of loyalty in the modern world, despite the fact that he saw fit to fuck off for a few extra quid within the early stages of his contract a matter of months ago.

Of course, none of us would expect or wish for a club full of angels. But if there's a wanker in charge, who will produce despicable behaviour and despicable football... but we are going to be content with that on the basis that he might generate a  slightly better points ratio in the short term than a leader who is better for the club on so many levels... we might as well all give up and watch the Prem.


Would you expect Wellens to hang about next season if say Salford went up and the class of 92 came calling.  Of course not (well unless you're really naive).  It's nothing new Danny Williams, who is rightly being remembered atm, left us in 69 for Sheff Weds, who at the time were top flight.... they got relegated.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Exiled Bob on Thursday, February 14, 2019, 15:58:08
The second half at home to Luton was comically entertaining I suppose.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Exiled Bob on Thursday, February 14, 2019, 16:00:31
Would you expect Wellens to hang about next season if say Salford went up and the class of 92 came calling.  Of course not (well unless you're really naive).  It's nothing new Danny Williams, who is rightly being remembered atm, left us in 69 for Sheff Weds, who at the time were top flight.... they got relegated.
As usual, you take one part of a post and twist it suit your agenda. Ferret's point, I believe, was that Flitcroft was bleating about there being no loyalty in football not long before he pissed off. I don't think Wellens has made any such statements has he?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: ferret on Thursday, February 14, 2019, 16:04:40
Would you expect Wellens to hang about next season if say Salford went up and the class of 92 came calling.  Of course not (well unless you're really naive).  It's nothing new Danny Williams, who is rightly being remembered atm, left us in 69 for Sheff Weds, who at the time were top flight.... they got relegated.

You're completely overlooking my point. Yes, I would expect Wellens to take a higher paid job. But I wouldn't then expect him to make comments along the following lines during the following months:

"Nobody's got any patience anymore. There's no respect for building or time. People just want things now."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46470158




Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: ferret on Thursday, February 14, 2019, 16:05:13
As usual, you take one part of a post and twist it suit your agenda. Ferret's point, I believe, was that Flitcroft was bleating about there being no loyalty in football not long before he pissed off. I don't think Wellens has made any such statements has he?

Spot on.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, February 14, 2019, 16:05:53
Quote
pretty much what we've got with Wellens.

Oh, fuck off.

This is why (one of many reasons) I have him blocked. Now I just need to work out how to get his rubbish blocked when people quote him as well.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Paolo69 on Thursday, February 14, 2019, 16:25:26
In much the same way as they say some people could start a fight in an empty room, Reg could find a negative in pretty much any situation.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: suttonred on Thursday, February 14, 2019, 16:52:42
In much the same way as they say some people could start a fight in an empty room, Reg could find a negative in pretty much any situation.

If he fell into a bucket of tits he'd come out sucking his thumb on purpose is the analogy I think of.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: suttonred on Thursday, February 14, 2019, 16:54:32
Name one. I must have missed those "decent" occasions, we played awful football every time I watched us under Flitcroft. Occasionally it was effective, but it was universally terrible to watch

Luton away was good. Err FGR away was decentish. The rest I saw wasnt great.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, February 14, 2019, 16:56:03
Mansfield away. Got him the gig, I reckon.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, February 14, 2019, 17:04:11
If he fell into a bucket of tits he'd come out sucking his thumb on purpose is the analogy I think of.

 :D


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: RobertT on Thursday, February 14, 2019, 17:30:09
The football under Flitcroft was terrible, even when effective, but the worst bit was that it was by design.  The spectacle on the pitch under Wellens has generally been better to watch - again, not always, but when it isn't that is not because it was by design, it's been because we haven't played well.

Luton, against 10 men, and maybe a bit against Mansfield - even that wasn't pretty.  FGR under Flitcroft was still pretty abject entertanment.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, February 14, 2019, 18:02:33
I do think you are doing Wellens a massive injustice, we saw more decent football in Wellens first 3 matches than in a whole season under Flipflop.

Yes he may have got results but the football was utterly shocking, I think you could be alone in supporting him with this one, I for one think it was THE worst football I have watched Town play in my 45 years of watching us.

That includes the awful season under Beamish when we were appalling. Despite maybe getting a few results along the way the football was Div 4 at its worst.

We've done this one before, but you have to take in context.... given the situation Flitcroft came into, it was always going to be about pragmatism. We'd just witnessed what I would consider to be much worse football under Luke.

Similarly with KB's side.... decent at home, a cup run, poor on the road; traditional Town at the time. It's highly likely that in Div 4 you'll get Div 4 football, and that season was hardcore 4, not for the faint hearted.

Brown had an opportunity to play something a bit more cultured, having a bit more time and a core of a squad.... but to do it and get results is difficult, hence why he was sacked.



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, February 14, 2019, 18:35:19
The football under Flitcroft was terrible, even when effective, but the worst bit was that it was by design.  The spectacle on the pitch under Wellens has generally been better to watch - again, not always, but when it isn't that is not because it was by design, it's been because we haven't played well.

Luton, against 10 men, and maybe a bit against Mansfield - even that wasn't pretty.  FGR under Flitcroft was still pretty abject entertanment.

I think a manager should set up the best way he thinks the side might win the game, with the available personnel, given conditions time of year etc.  Sometimes things might fall nicely into place other times not.  Quite why this should be is sometimes hard to discern.... take Bristol City, the 17 games prior to Jan (well 29th Dec) had yielded  4 wins 6 draws and 7 defeats. a reasonable start meant a safe lower mid table perch, and the fans probably critical of Johnson.  Then 8 wins on the spin and now win their game in hand and 4 points off auto. Clearly what Johnson was doing early season wasn't quite working now it is.... I doubt it is a whole lot different.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: donkey on Thursday, February 14, 2019, 21:05:38
To be clear, I made it known that my dislike of Flitcroft was not logically related to his win record - his team played awful football and I think I also stated it would get us play offs, but no better - that was the limit I saw to his approach.  If his team and Wellens' produce equal results, I'd watch the latter every day of the week.

It's not all roses yet - there are still Crawley games to watch.  The signs are good though

Agree 100%. The style of football was the worst I've ever seen Town play.  Wellens' style is light years ahead.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, February 14, 2019, 22:15:48
Agree 100%. The style of football was the worst I've ever seen Town play.  Wellens' style is light years ahead.

But if it doesn't get results it will count for nowt... next match up is interesting, a chance to show we are making progress.... we've lost the last 3 to Grimsby under 3 different managers... Flitcroft, Brown, Wellens.... who now gets a chance to put matters right.  If they beat Numb on Sat at Blundell Park, they'll arrive at the CG above us, and would be on a 4 game winning run.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: donkey on Thursday, February 14, 2019, 22:52:04
But if it doesn't get results it will count for nowt... next match up is interesting, a chance to show we are making progress.... we've lost the last 3 to Grimsby under 3 different managers... Flitcroft, Brown, Wellens.... who now gets a chance to put matters right.  If they beat Numb on Sat at Blundell Park, they'll arrive at the CG above us, and would be on a 4 game winning run.

In one way yes.  But I can accept results not being that good as long as the football entertains.  The style under Flitcroft was so bad,  it damn near needed a win every game to make it palatable.  I have posted before on here,  however,  that I respect Flitcroft built a team from nothing,  and am grateful he helped stop the slide downward.  That should not be underestimated.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: ferret on Thursday, February 14, 2019, 22:56:23
Oh, fuck off.

This is why (one of many reasons) I have him blocked. Now I just need to work out how to get his rubbish blocked when people quote him as well.

I’ve tried as well - unfortunately there’s no way of hiding the quotes.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: suttonred on Thursday, February 14, 2019, 23:39:53
I’ve tried as well - unfortunately there’s no way of hiding the quotes.

Now i really want to know who are the top ten blocked.. I think I've only blocked 2 or 3. DMR as I spotted he was a total bell end 10 years before the courts did, and one i'd better not mention as I'd probably get hate mail...


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Friday, February 15, 2019, 08:16:48
Now i really want to know who are the top ten blocked.. I think I've only blocked 2 or 3. DMR as I spotted he was a total bell end 10 years before the courts did, and one i'd better not mention as I'd probably get hate mail...

Reg is only ignored by 6 or 7.

I've enabled viewing of ignore lists so everyone should be able to see who has ignored them now :D


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Friday, February 15, 2019, 08:22:30
Reg is only ignored by 6 or 7.

I've enabled viewing of ignore lists so everyone should be able to see who has ignored them now :D
But this is the 'Squad list' thread. So are we going to get an 'Ignored Squad List'?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Batch on Friday, February 15, 2019, 08:39:21
My 'ignored by' list is surprisingly short:  Trini, ferret, hobnob, inept and tiresome, garystfcjeans


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, February 15, 2019, 08:41:36
I have somebody called Oxfordhater ignoring me.

I have no idea who that is.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Berniman on Friday, February 15, 2019, 09:13:34
I would love to know who's blocking me..  A shame as they missed out on those free tenners I was handing out late last year when I won the Power lottery


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, February 15, 2019, 09:22:53
ha the only one I have heard of blocking me is Ferret, not sure what I did to upset them :) they weren't blocking me a month ago   :headhurts:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, February 15, 2019, 09:40:36
Only 2 blocking me, one called EATALENT who posted twice in 2013 and another who doesn't post regularly.

FWIW I haven't blocked anyone.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Quagmire on Friday, February 15, 2019, 09:42:40
Ferret and Combe Up have ignored me, I hated you both anyway you pair of cunts.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, February 15, 2019, 09:43:29
Only 2 blocking me, one called EATALENT who posted twice in 2013 and another who doesn't post regularly.

FWIW I haven't blocked anyone.
Yeah I only have Ferret and the apptly named inept and tiresome who hasn't posted in several years.

I too haven't blocked anyone, even the fucking annoying wind up merchants like DMR.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Bogus Dave on Friday, February 15, 2019, 09:45:03
I am a popular guy/gal 😎


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, February 15, 2019, 09:48:34
Yeah I only have Ferret and the apptly named inept and tiresome who hasn't posted in several years.

I too haven't blocked anyone, even the fucking annoying wind up merchants like DMR.

DMR was the only person I was very tempted to block to be honest.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, February 15, 2019, 09:58:58
where do I find such a thing? Wondering if my blocks are in line with my "karma".


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, February 15, 2019, 10:03:53
where do I find such a thing? Wondering if my blocks are in line with my "karma".

Profile at the top then its something like ignore user options in the left hand bar......

I am a popular guy/gal with no one ignoring me which is odd as even I think I can be a tedious bastard at times....


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Friday, February 15, 2019, 10:17:49
Only got 2 non regulars blocking me and I've not blocked anyone. I enjoy the differing opinions. for example, I don't agree with Horlick or ardiles on brexit but I enjoy hearing their opinions. I respect their views and it gives me another viewpoint. We just have different opinions which is healthy. I also enjoy the real wind up merchants. They sometimes bring a bit of life to the forum.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, February 15, 2019, 10:30:41
Only got 2 non regulars blocking me and I've not blocked anyone. I enjoy the differing opinions. for example, I don't agree with Horlick or ardiles on brexit but I enjoy hearing their opinions. I respect their views and it gives me another viewpoint. We just have different opinions which is healthy. I also enjoy the real wind up merchants. They sometimes bring a bit of life to the forum.


You could at least spell my name right, bitch  :eek: ;)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Berniman on Friday, February 15, 2019, 10:34:49
Ah, nobody blocking me - i need to up my game.  I don't block anyone, isn't the point of a forum that you read what the idiots are saying as well as the sensible posters..  blocking makes the whole point of a forum dead IMO, as annoying as some can get..


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Friday, February 15, 2019, 10:37:04
You could at least spell my name right, bitch  :eek: ;)
Fucking predictive text. That's another fucking thing brexit will sort out and you can put that on the side of a bus.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Berniman on Friday, February 15, 2019, 11:59:41
:D


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Friday, February 15, 2019, 12:05:27
Who would everybody keep/release out of the OOC players? I'd keep Vigs, McCormick, Knoyle, Conroy, Rose & Robinson & release Taylor, Iandolo, Robertson, Lancashire, McCourt, Dunne, Smith & Richards. I haven't included Henry, Romanski, Edwards, Young & Pryce in this as I haven't really seen enough of them to comment.
Of the ones in contract I'd also like to see McGlashan moved on.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Batch on Friday, February 15, 2019, 12:23:11
I think I'd have a similar list, but I'd probably keep Dunne and/or McCourt if Dave can't prove himself.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, February 15, 2019, 12:27:18
Dunne and McCourt both stay for me. Conroy is right on the cusp. Needs a good end of the season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Costanza on Friday, February 15, 2019, 12:31:11
Future of the younger players tend to be determined who graduates from the youth team.

Henry surely doesn't want to spend his career as a third choice keeper.

Young and Edwards appear to be finished. Don't envisage much for Pryce (on the bench at Dulwich)

Romanski might be worth another year.

Iandolo appears to be Wellens' 19th man at the moment, I wonder whether Ellis will want another season on the periphery.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, February 15, 2019, 12:37:25
Dunne and McCourt both stay for me. Conroy is right on the cusp. Needs a good end of the season.

I'd keep McCourt if it was one or the other, but wouldn't mind Dunne as a squad man. Dion is tricky.... hampered by injury. As Flitcroft said at the time he was injured, a shame as he and Futcher were starting to get some defending into him.. we know he's OK with the ball.

My gut feeling is that Wellens will let him go.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Bogus Dave on Friday, February 15, 2019, 12:45:43
I’m fast becoming of the opinion that Dion Conroy is not very good at defending


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Power to people on Friday, February 15, 2019, 12:58:47
I’m fast becoming of the opinion that Dion Conroy is not very good at defending

I thought Tues was the best he's played for a long time, I'd like to see him get a run of games to prove himself as I think he still has a lot to offer after his run of injuries


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Quagmire on Friday, February 15, 2019, 13:16:20
I think he needs a good run of games, there is definitely potential and he is still relatively young but does look a bit big to me still. A full, uninterrupted pre-season would do him the world of good.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, February 15, 2019, 13:18:26
Conroy's already shown he is a decent player. He'll come good again with a run of games.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: tans on Friday, February 15, 2019, 14:43:34
My 'ignored by' list is surprisingly short:  Trini, ferret, hobnob, inept and tiresome, garystfcjeans

Only one for me :D


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: 4D on Friday, February 15, 2019, 14:53:48
Ferret is ignoring me.  :)
That's worth a karma vote  :naughty:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, February 15, 2019, 14:59:01
Ferret will be talking to himself at this rate


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: @mwooly63 on Friday, February 15, 2019, 15:08:12
StfcRusty only one that has blocked me  :hmmm:
None on my list


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Friday, February 15, 2019, 15:13:00
I've often noticed that I've been ignoring people but have never intentionally done so. Must be a slip of the finger when using this site on my phone! Just unignore them straight away then.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: 4D on Friday, February 15, 2019, 15:15:45
I've ignored people by mistake.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, February 15, 2019, 15:20:49
I've also ignored people by mistake, its easily done!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Friday, February 15, 2019, 15:22:08
DV is ignoring me, the first time I’ve seen his name pop up here so I’ll take that as a compliment  ;)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, February 15, 2019, 15:30:23
DV is ignoring me,

Why would anybody want to do that?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Paolo69 on Saturday, February 16, 2019, 08:22:45
Incredible. Who wouldn’t want to tap into that inside knowledge we occasionally get treated to on here.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: suttonred on Saturday, February 16, 2019, 12:32:33
I've only one ignore on me, someone called trini. Never heard of them.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, February 16, 2019, 12:44:54
I have two!

Whatever I did hobnob and Matt71, I apologise for nothing.

 :)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: tans on Saturday, February 16, 2019, 13:28:05
Woolfenden signs a contract extension at Ipswich


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Saturday, February 16, 2019, 14:05:02
Woolfenden signs a contract extension at Ipswich
As per my quote elsewhere:

'Oh let me gaze upon your curves
Instead of Ipswich Town reserves
Swerving the Checkatrade with you'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc2UyOLJYPc&list=OLAK5uy_ldBP3sq0t4l9x9PpgwPDGprz4sphMEjas&index=13


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, February 16, 2019, 16:41:04
Ipswich prepping accordingly for L1.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, February 23, 2019, 13:51:45
Scott Twine played for Waterford yesterday and apparently helped set up one of the goals, played quite well too in their 2-0 win at Cork City.

Quote
Played very well. Feely recovered after a poor first 30 min. If you were to compare the team from same time last year you can say we are better  team bar a striker. Very surprised we didn't go sign someone decent. Young Twine did very well last night but he isn't a player that's going to hit double figures


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, March 5, 2019, 16:29:44
Will Henry joins Gloucester City till the end of the season on loan.

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/17477209.will-henry-joins-gloucester-city-on-loan-until-the-end-of-the-season/


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, March 5, 2019, 16:32:05
Also I see Ben House has been called up by Scotland U21's to face Mexico and Spain.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, March 5, 2019, 16:43:31
Also I see Ben House has been called up by Scotland U21's to face Mexico and Spain.

Is he playing dev games for Reading? I think he can, can't he ?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, March 5, 2019, 16:47:31
Is he playing dev games for Reading? I think he can, can't he ?
If its agreed between the clubs he can, I am guessing he must be to have been picked as hes only played about 4 and a half mins for Town so far :D


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, March 7, 2019, 12:00:48
Jordan Young joins Highworth Town on loan.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, March 7, 2019, 12:02:26
Jordan Young joins Highworth Town on loan.

Jesus, that's a drop.

 :eek:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, March 7, 2019, 12:21:24
Jesus, that's a drop.

 :eek:

He was the great hope.... undone by injuries.  Maybe there's a way back, it can happen.

What makes it more of a shame is that he did what I consider the right thing in turned down a move to Chelsea in the way Henshall didn't with Man City.... in the hope of getting games.  Whereas Henshall although also getting nowhere will at least have trousered some decent $ for a kid.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, March 7, 2019, 12:35:44
Jesus, that's a drop.

 :eek:
I was going to post something similar. Thats a few divisions below the Conference.

It must be to ease him back to fitness because his footballing career will probably gain very little from playing in that league.

As Reg says Chelsea tried to sign him as a 14 year old for £100k but he turned down the move, had the world at his feet and was called up by Scotland at U15 and U16 level then the injuries hit him badly.

The plus point though is that hes still only 19 but he seems to have been around a lot longer having been in the Town 1st team squad when he was just 16.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: tans on Thursday, March 7, 2019, 13:20:44
McGlashan to Wrexham on loan


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, March 7, 2019, 13:36:02
Slightly conflicted by over McGlashen. I don't think anyone will be bothered he's gone, but I still feel his speed can be useful off the bench.

Odd how he came off the bench, set one up, then didn't play again.

Still, what do I know.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, March 7, 2019, 13:50:15
Pryce got a brace and was labelled the laziest trainer.

Assists and goals won't save you under Richie Wellens...

 :)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Panda Paws on Thursday, March 7, 2019, 14:00:43
Good move for JM - certainly don't see him in the current 433 set up at all, especially with Bennett coming in.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, March 7, 2019, 14:08:45
Good move for JM - certainly don't see him in the current 433 set up at all, especially with Bennett coming in.
This.

I see no place for him in our current formation and think Brown signed him because he had worked with him before, always is a trier but he will be a casualty in the Summer, hes not really good enough.

You can't make an omelette without breaking some eggs, I think Iandolo, McGlashan and Smith will be the eggs to be broken 1st, followed by Robertson, Lancashire and Richards.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: theakston2k on Thursday, March 7, 2019, 14:24:57
Hopefully he can do his part and stop Salford City getting promoted, dreading the 'class of 92' love in if they go up.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, March 7, 2019, 14:49:52
This.

I see no place for him in our current formation and think Brown signed him because he had worked with him before, always is a trier but he will be a casualty in the Summer, hes not really good enough.

You can't make an omelette without breaking some eggs, I think Iandolo, McGlashan and Smith will be the eggs to be broken 1st, followed by Robertson, Lancashire and Richards.

Yep.  Worked up and down and kept shape well enough.... but you do need a bit more than that.  Contracted for next season, so hopefully he does well and prefers to play rather than sitting on arse.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, March 8, 2019, 10:59:47
 Wellens now wants to offer Dion Conroy a new contract.... given his bad luck with injury last season, I think most Town fans would regard it is fair enough, as he looks someone who could improve.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Processed Beats on Friday, March 8, 2019, 11:08:20
Wellens now wants to offer Dion Conroy a new contract.... given his bad luck with injury last season, I think most Town fans would regard it is fair enough, as he looks someone who could improve.

I mentioned Conroy in the last match day thread.

Wouldn’t be so sure on that. Conroy has been quite good recently, helped obviously by having someone as physical and dependable as Broadbent beside him. His bursts forwards and eye for a pass/cross played a part in goals against both Grimsby and ColU. I guess he hasn’t yet been tested by a truly physical forward like Akinfenwa but I’ve been quite impressed by him.

Signing Sid would be great for competition for places, though.

Glad to see Wellens agrees. Dion’s been great recently.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, March 8, 2019, 11:15:38
Conroy has improved vastly already with Broadbent alongside him, hes turning into the player that Chelsea first spotted 10 years ago.

Still only 22 with loads of room to improve if he keeps his fitness.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, March 8, 2019, 11:21:11
Conroy had already proven in the past that he's a good player. He'd just been out for a long time and needed games. Although it would obviously help playing alongside another good defender and having a manager that knows what he's doing.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: RobertT on Friday, March 8, 2019, 14:26:26
Conroy was a little ropey when he got back to fitness, and he still has a midfielders mind when defending with the ball at times.  However, he has improved rapidly and for the first time in a while the centre backs look comfortable with each other.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, March 12, 2019, 12:59:55
Sol Pryce joins Bath City on loan.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, March 12, 2019, 13:12:04
Sol Pryce joins Bath City on loan.

Strange how Wellens is seemingly not interested in him, thought he looked handy the few games he played


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Trashbat? on Tuesday, March 12, 2019, 15:45:53
If we played with 2 forwards up top I think we would have seen him have a few more cameos, but he doesn't really suit our current system. He also showed against Woking how easily bullied out a game he could be as a lone forward.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, March 12, 2019, 19:37:31
Strange how Wellens is seemingly not interested in him, thought he looked handy the few games he played

Suspect this may not be unrelated to the comment about him being a terrible trainer.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, March 13, 2019, 19:36:12
Luke McCormick extends for another season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, March 13, 2019, 20:07:49
Luke McCormick extends for another season.
Good, I still think on the pitch he is a better keeper than Vigs.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, March 13, 2019, 20:36:08
Good, I still think on the pitch he is a better keeper than Vigs.

What about off the pitch?

 :)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Wednesday, March 13, 2019, 22:02:00
What about off the pitch?

 :)
Off the pitch he's a better keeper too.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, March 14, 2019, 09:34:28
Off the pitch he's a better keeper too.
keeper...yes....person...questionable. Hence my stating "on the pitch".


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, March 14, 2019, 10:09:45
Luke McCormick extends for another season.

Solid league 1/2 keeper. If Vigs goes I think there will be no on field issues with having him as number one.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: tans on Thursday, March 14, 2019, 17:34:39
Vigs called up to chile again. Am i right in thinking ae can get game called off


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, March 14, 2019, 17:35:19
Vigs called up to chile again. Am i right in thinking ae can get game called off

House and AN other got a call up?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, March 14, 2019, 17:42:28
House and AN other got a call up?
Canice Carroll I believe?

I’d get it called off, gives Doughty an extra week to get fit as it’s clear we miss him.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, March 14, 2019, 17:43:26
Canice Carroll I believe?

I’d get it called off, gives Doughty an extra week to get fit as it’s clear we miss him.

I agree. Morecambe are in very decent form currently as well.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, March 14, 2019, 17:50:19
I agree. Morecambe are in very decent form currently as well.

We should play it... not like House is a regular, Carroll and Vigs we can cover.  Saturday afternoons are for football.

I've been wondering if when we reach the farce of Qatar 2022, Div 3 and Div 4 wil be cancelled in Nov/Dec.... which won't be very popular with us lower league fans.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, March 14, 2019, 17:53:06
6 games in April already.

Keep it on.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: RobertT on Thursday, March 14, 2019, 19:13:52
We should play it... not like House is a regular, Carroll and Vigs we can cover.  Saturday afternoons are for football.

I've been wondering if when we reach the farce of Qatar 2022, Div 3 and Div 4 wil be cancelled in Nov/Dec.... which won't be very popular with us lower league fans.

So you are saying we should pick McCormick rather than postpone the game?


I'd agree though, play the game.  House isn't a first team player it seems anyway, Luke is probably better than Vigs currently, and we have cover in midfield.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Power to people on Friday, March 15, 2019, 13:45:17
So you are saying we should pick McCormick rather than postpone the game?


I'd agree though, play the game.  House isn't a first team player it seems anyway, Luke is probably better than Vigs currently, and we have cover in midfield.

Play the game we have adequate cover for those missing, not as if House has played much anyway


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Bogus Dave on Tuesday, March 19, 2019, 06:29:39
Taylor retires at end of season


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, March 19, 2019, 07:12:02
right decision.

thought he was very good last year, struggled more this.

proper Pro and a winner though.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: tans on Tuesday, March 19, 2019, 07:20:02
I’ll offer him a job at tansmedia this evening


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Bogus Dave on Tuesday, March 19, 2019, 08:08:52
Would hope he stays on as a coach, but Wellens appears to have a very clear view of what he wants his coaching staff to be based on his appointments, and not sure how Taylor fits in with that


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, March 19, 2019, 08:50:08
I suspect Taylor will leave.

Was he on the bench against Vale? I saw Hunt, Shirtliff and Mildenhall in full coaching mode.



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, March 19, 2019, 10:32:59
I suspect Taylor will leave.

Was he on the bench against Vale? I saw Hunt, Shirtliff and Mildenhall in full coaching mode.

I said a while back that with Matty not being considered or not wanting the job that Wellens got he'd retire and move on probably to an age range job at a Championship or Prem club.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, March 19, 2019, 10:52:30
He will get the managers job at Oxford when they are relegated.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Power to people on Wednesday, March 20, 2019, 13:30:09
I suspect Taylor will walk into a coaching role somewhere, I'm not sure he is involved as much since Wellens came in as we probably don't need another full time coach, I o think Taylor is the type of player to go straight into management he will cut his teeth somewhere as a No 2


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: magicroundaboutred on Wednesday, March 20, 2019, 15:24:34
Scott Twine playing in a friendly for town at Brentford today.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, March 20, 2019, 15:44:08
Scott Twine playing in a friendly for town at Brentford today.

lost 3-0

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/17514933.championship-outfit-brentford-cruise-to-three-goal-friendly-win-against-a-mixed-swindon-town-team/


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Wednesday, March 20, 2019, 15:54:33
lost 3-0

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/17514933.championship-outfit-brentford-cruise-to-three-goal-friendly-win-against-a-mixed-swindon-town-team/
I wonder who the 3 trialists were?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, March 20, 2019, 15:56:37
I wonder who the 3 trialists were?

Anton Rodgers, Donal McDermott and Miles Storey.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, March 20, 2019, 16:15:01
Anton Rodgers, Donal McDermott and Miles Storey.

 :)

 Humour is all we've got left.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, March 20, 2019, 16:15:07
Scott Twine playing in a friendly for town at Brentford today.
Yet another club who, historically, we were ahead of.

Still, we’ve got Morecambe Saturday.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, March 20, 2019, 16:26:09
Yet another club who, historically, we were ahead of.

Still, we’ve got Morecambe Saturday.

We can only dream of getting back to the Brentford level again.... so therefore should concern ourselves with Morecambe on Saturday, and there's nothing wrong with that.  Benham has put 90 mill into the Bees, no doubt with more to come (pun unintended)

 I think most were surprised by Power saying he'd put in 6 mill, as by the standards of most of us on here that's a fair bit, but the reality is it probably gets you to 13th in Div 4, Morecambe's spend will be a bit less, hence why we usually finish a bit above them.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, March 20, 2019, 17:46:29
Matty Taylor said last night that living in the area was a big bonus in playing for town, that could be a swayer if he gets offered a coaching role.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, March 20, 2019, 21:00:37
Some shocking defending here

https://www.brentfordfc.com/news/2019/march/watch-swindon-town-highlights/


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, March 20, 2019, 21:15:39
Clearly, Chris Robertson is winding down.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, March 21, 2019, 09:56:32
Some shocking defending by both our centre backs there.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, March 21, 2019, 09:59:28
Who was the defender dawdling for the first goal? Pretty pathetic.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, March 21, 2019, 10:01:52
Who was the defender dawdling for the first goal? Pretty pathetic.
I think it was Robertson, not sure though, whoever it was gave up and on the evidence of that he should be sacked and shouldn't ever wear a Town shirt again at any level. Thats the body language of a player not wanted and who doesn't want to be there.

Yes watched it again and its definately Robertson. Also the way McCourt gives up on the through ball so easily for the 2nd.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, March 21, 2019, 10:05:36
I think it was Robertson, not sure though, whoever it was gave up and on the evidence of that he should be sacked and shouldn't ever wear a Town shirt again at any level. Thats the body language of a player not wanted and who doesn't want to be there.

Yes watched it again and its definately Robertson. Also the way McCourt gives up on the through ball so easily for the 2nd.

Yes there was a distinct lack of 'cant' be arsed' on those lowlights. Very poor indeed.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, March 21, 2019, 10:07:39
Yes there was a distinct lack of 'cant' be arsed' on those lowlights. Very poor indeed.
By pretty much everyone there, the only one who couldn't really be faulted was McCormick who had no chance with any of the goals, Toums obviously came on as a sub and seemed yards away from stopping the cross for the 3rd, Robertson was miles away from cutting out the cross for it too and in no mans land marking nobody, although at that point most of the team were youth teamers by the look of it.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, March 21, 2019, 10:09:52
Yes there was a distinct lack of 'cant' be arsed' on those lowlights. Very poor indeed.
Actually, there was a preponderance of 'can't be arsed' rather than a lack of it! :-)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, March 21, 2019, 10:17:02
Clearly, Chris Robertson is winding down.

Not convinced he was ever wound up?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, March 21, 2019, 10:23:24
Actually, there was a preponderance of 'can't be arsed' rather than a lack of it! :-)

Doh! yeah I made an arse of that didn't I?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, March 21, 2019, 10:23:44
Not convinced he was ever wound up?
Thats a good point! one of the worst and slowest defenders ever to grace the County Ground pitch.

Less pace that the David Murray John Tower and the turning circle of the QEII.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, March 22, 2019, 11:46:52
I wonder who the 3 trialists were?

I guess a bit too early for Adam Johnson, although LMc seemed to be training with us while technically at HM pleasure.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, March 22, 2019, 12:35:29
I guess a bit too early for Adam Johnson, although LMc seemed to be training with us while technically at HM pleasure.
I don't think any (league)team will take a gamble on Adam Johnson except maybe somebody with no morals and lots of money like Salford City.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, March 22, 2019, 13:20:10
Where is Ched Evans now?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, March 22, 2019, 13:34:41
Where is Ched Evans now?
Fleetwood on loan from Sheff Utd.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, March 22, 2019, 13:50:07
I guess a bit too early for Adam Johnson, although LMc seemed to be training with us while technically at HM pleasure.

How, were we running training sessions in the nick, that would be a bureaucratic nightmare getting all the players, coaches and cones inside? ?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, March 22, 2019, 13:51:45
How, were we running training sessions in the nick, that would be a bureaucratic nightmare getting all the players, coaches and cones inside? ?
He was training with Swindon on day release with an ankle tag on.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, March 28, 2019, 13:38:53
Wellens suggests there are 15 out of contracts players, and he has offered new deals but wont say who to, not sure why it has to be top secret though, so I'd suggest those being offered new deals:

Vigs - we already know
Knoyle
Conroy
Dunne
Henry

Iandolo - to prove himself I expect

Not sure there are many others that would get a new deal, problem is as Wellens says we cant keep having to build a new team every season



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: swindonmaniac on Thursday, March 28, 2019, 13:45:16
Wellens suggests there are 15 out of contracts players, and he has offered new deals but wont say who to, not sure why it has to be top secret though, so I'd suggest those being offered new deals:

Vigs -

Not sure there are many others that would get a new deal, problem is as Wellens says we cant keep having to build a new team every season


Can't understand why he would want to keep Vigs, obviously no other club is interested in our world class keeper,  exactly the same as in other transfer windows.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: theakston2k on Thursday, March 28, 2019, 14:25:13
Can't understand why he would want to keep Vigs, obviously no other club is interested in our world class keeper,  exactly the same as in other transfer windows.
Because he's still pretty young, is in the Chile squad and when you see keepers like the Colchester one, Morecambe's keeper or even the 2 clowns we were left with last season he's actually more than good enough for this level. I'd rather not go into next season relying on 36 year olds in key positions like we did with Matty Taylor and Marc Richards this season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, March 28, 2019, 15:57:44
 I read the Adver piece and started thinking about it, then decided that because it's in the Adver it's probably crap... the hack has to put something in and seems to mangle what Wellens says to try and get a few more "aphorisms" btl.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Private Fraser on Friday, April 5, 2019, 19:45:35
First goal for Twine.

https://twitter.com/waterfordfcie/status/1114247144049926144?s=21


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, April 26, 2019, 06:43:57
Doesn’t mince his words does he. Makes uncomfortable reading sometimes.

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/17599392.swindon-town-manager-richie-wellens-has-complained-that-no-one-wants-his-out-of-favour-contracted-players-ahead-of-summer-clear-out/


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Costanza on Friday, April 26, 2019, 06:48:51
I think a clear-out was inevitable regardless of manager...

GOALKEEPERS

1. Lawrence Vigouroux (2019) - Leaving
12. Will Henry (2019)
23. Luke McCormick (2020)

DEFENDERS

2. Kyle Knoyle (2019)
6. Olly Lancashire (2019)
15. Chris Robertson (2019)
32. Canice Carroll (EOS)
25. Joe Romanski (2019) - on loan at Bath City
26. Dion Conroy (2019)
29. Ali Koiki (EOS)
32. Luke Woolfenden (SL)
33. Tom Broadbent (2021)
36. Taylor Curran (2021)
--. Cameron McGilp (2021)

MIDFIELDERS

3. Michael Doughty (2020)
4. Jak McCourt (2019)
7. Jermaine McGlashan (2020)
8. James Dunne (2019)
14. Ellis Iandolo (2019)
16. Martin Smith (2019)
20. Toumani Diagouraga (2020)
21. Jordan Young (2019) - on loan at Highworth Town
27. Jordan Edwards (2019) - on loan at Marlow
31. Matthew Taylor (2019) - Retiring at the end of the season
37. Kyle Bennett (EOS)

FORWARDS

9. Marc Richards (2019)
10. Keshi Anderson (2020)
18. Ben House (EOS)
22. Kaiyne Woolery (2020)
24. Scott Twine (2021) - on loan at Waterford
27. Sol Pryce (2019) - on loan at Bath City
35. Theo Robinson (EOS)

NOTE: There may be some errors.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, April 26, 2019, 07:04:43
Seems a bit counter productive moaning that nobody wants our contracted players and then saying McGlashan doesn’t score or provide assists - not likely to get other clubs flocking for him.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Costanza on Friday, April 26, 2019, 07:36:39
He’s trying to publicly make people aware that McGlashan is available and I guess the bluntness is partly based on his desperation to get him off the books and his grumpy Mancunian delivery.



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Ardiles on Friday, April 26, 2019, 07:51:47
I am encouraged that there's a plan.  Wellens has a strategy to take us back to League 1, and he articulates it well.  So far so good.

Whether it comes off will depend on his ability to deliver on that strategy...an all together different set of competencies.  But you have to back him in this.  The club's been suffering from a malaise for too long and we're punching below our weight.  This could be the game changer that gets us back to our natural level.  It's bound to upset a few people along the way, but that's the way it is.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, April 26, 2019, 08:31:02
I am encouraged that there's a plan.  Wellens has a strategy to take us back to League 1, and he articulates it well.  So far so good.

Whether it comes off will depend on his ability to deliver on that strategy...an all together different set of competencies.  But you have to back him in this.  The club's been suffering from a malaise for too long and we're punching below our weight.  This could be the game changer that gets us back to our natural level.  It's bound to upset a few people along the way, but that's the way it is.

Sadly the cause of the malaise, is the one which got us to Div 4 in the first place... and doesn't really show too many signs of doing much about it.

Oh well, the big one tomorrow.  "You can stick your fucking clackers up your arse.... sideways."


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Power to people on Friday, April 26, 2019, 12:13:33
So he's talking of 2 goalkeepers, I suspect that may mean that Will Henry will be on his way as you suspect that he will want the goalkeepers fighting for the shirt not a clear No1 & No2, shame as I think given time he will be a decent keeper as the games he's played he's looked fine.

I see Wellens point about the youngsters if there is no route into the first team for them then it is counter productive keeping them as they take up wages.

I look forward to seeing what Wellens can do with his big rebuilding job though, hopefully a majority of business can be done early and have a settled squad over pre season with maybe a couple of spaces for those that do end up coming late due to their clubs deciding they don't want them. but being that extra quality.

I hope though that a team is built around Doughty, I think when he is fully fit and playing that bit further forward he is a dangerous and quality player at this level.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: tans on Friday, April 26, 2019, 12:21:41
On the flip side about Romanski he states he needs to have a think about keeping him as he doesnt know whether he is good enough, whilst telling Conroy and Knoyle they have until the end of the week to sign a contract


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Bewster on Friday, April 26, 2019, 13:50:59
One of the other Dad's at my son's football team plays golf with Conroy and reckons he was paid £500k to have his contract terminated by Chelksi.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, April 26, 2019, 13:56:29
Paid by whom?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, April 26, 2019, 13:57:04
One of the other Dad's at my son's football team plays golf with Conroy and reckons he was paid £500k to have his contract terminated by Chelksi.
Don't know about that but I know we paid a transfer fee for him, undisclosed as always.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, April 26, 2019, 14:01:55
His Chelsea contract ran out in Jan 2018. He signed for us Feb 2017. £500k seems huge for a player into his last year of contract.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Bewster on Friday, April 26, 2019, 14:05:31
Chelsea paid him off. I don't know if its true, just what I was told.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, April 26, 2019, 14:12:37
Ah, right. I thought you were saying we bought him out of his contract.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, April 26, 2019, 14:16:23
Not that surprising if Chelsea paid him off. Some of these Premier league starlets are on stupid money.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, April 26, 2019, 14:17:13
His Chelsea contract ran out in Jan 2018. He signed for us Feb 2017. £500k seems huge for a player into his last year of contract.
He had recently signed a new contract at Chelsea until June 2018 when we signed him. So he had a year and half left.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: tans on Friday, April 26, 2019, 15:35:00
If the club chooses to sell the player without him requesting to move, the player is entitled to the full value of the remainder of the contract i think. If the player requests to move and break the contract he isnt due anything.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, April 26, 2019, 16:11:01
If the club chooses to sell the player without him requesting to move, the player is entitled to the full value of the remainder of the contract i think. If the player requests to move and break the contract he isnt due anything.

The classic "loyalty bonus"


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Sunday, April 28, 2019, 10:57:18
What's everybody's thoughts on the retained list then? I'd keep Conroy, Knoyle & Rose from those who are out of contract. Wouldn't shed any tears if the rest went. Of the OOC players who haven't featured much or at all under RW the only one I'd keep would be Diagouraga who when fit will be a great DM at this level presuming he fits into RW's style of play. Got a feeling he'll be moved on if there are takers though.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Sunday, April 28, 2019, 11:14:50
Rose has signed, hasn't he? I'd keep Knoyle, offer Conroy a reasonable contract but don't pay him anything more than he's on currently. Sol Pryce probably worth a contract offer, ditto Henry as no.2.

Try and see if anyone wants McGlashan, can't believe he was given a 2-year deal. Cheers Brown!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Sunday, April 28, 2019, 11:30:21
Rose has signed, hasn't he? I'd keep Knoyle, offer Conroy a reasonable contract but don't pay him anything more than he's on currently. Sol Pryce probably worth a contract offer, ditto Henry as no.2.

Try and see if anyone wants McGlashan, can't believe he was given a 2-year deal. Cheers Brown!
Yeah, Rose has signed now. Agree with regards McGlashan. Hopefully he's done enough at Wrexham to convince them to turn his loan into a perm. Can't believe Robertson & Dunne were given 2 year deals by Flitcroft either but there you go.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Batch on Sunday, April 28, 2019, 11:38:18
Quote from: FreddySTFC!
What's everybody's thoughts on the retained list then? I'd keep Conroy, Knoyle & Rose from those who are out of contract. Wouldn't shed any tears if the rest went. Of the OOC players who haven't featured much or at all under RW the only one I'd keep would be Diagouraga who when fit will be a great DM at this level presuming he fits into RW's style of play. Got a feeling he'll be moved on if there are takers though.

Exactly this really.

On Diagouraga, he's had all season to get fit. My overactive Spidey sense is tingling.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: hefty toe on Sunday, April 28, 2019, 12:30:56
Does anyone have any information re Cameron McGilp? Is he simply not deemed good enough to merit a place in the matchday squad? I can't recall Wellens even mentioning him post signing. I hope he's not another duffer as he's under contract until 2021.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Sunday, April 28, 2019, 12:39:41
Does anyone have any information re Cameron McGilp? Is he simply not deemed good enough to merit a place in the matchday squad? I can't recall Wellens even mentioning him post signing. I hope he's not another duffer as he's under contract until 2021.
Similar to Taylor Curran he's apparently 'one for the future'. Expect him to be on the fringes or loaned out unless he impresses in pre season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: tans on Sunday, April 28, 2019, 12:42:56
Injured


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, May 4, 2019, 07:43:01
Well it appears that any bid for Carroll will be rejected by the player who has decided to stay at Bentford and try and claim a place, sorry CC but you are nowhere near good enough for that league but you could do well in L2.

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/17618603.midfielder-canice-carroll-said-he-will-chase-a-brentford-squad-spot-next-season-rather-than-an-immediate-return-to-swindon-town/


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: DiV on Saturday, May 4, 2019, 07:47:33
...aka if Brentford want me gone they’ll have to pay up my contract £££


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, May 4, 2019, 08:08:48
Well it appears that any bid for Carroll will be rejected by the player who has decided to stay at Bentford and try and claim a place, sorry CC but you are nowhere near good enough for that league but you could do well in L2.

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/17618603.midfielder-canice-carroll-said-he-will-chase-a-brentford-squad-spot-next-season-rather-than-an-immediate-return-to-swindon-town/

This is all old hat.

Player contracted to a club states desire to fight for a place.

Pre-season decides whether he achieves that.

Then he's told what's what and it's another loan spell.

Sunrise. Sunset.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: tans on Saturday, May 4, 2019, 08:08:58
Wouldnt be surprised if he comes back in January if he doesnt make their squad etc


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, May 4, 2019, 08:24:17
Wouldnt be surprised if he comes back in January if he doesnt make their squad etc
When he doesn't make the squad, I like his enthusiasm and nastiness but hes not overly talented.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Saturday, May 4, 2019, 17:01:21
Did RW give any hints in his post match interview as to who will officially be leaving. Any cryptic Twitter messages from the players?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: tans on Saturday, May 4, 2019, 18:37:30
Pretty sure Dunne and McCourt are gonnas, not even on the bench


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, May 4, 2019, 18:42:40
I would have kept one, they'd make decent squad players.

Ah well.


Title: Re: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: chrisser on Sunday, May 5, 2019, 05:44:03
Did RW give any hints in his post match interview as to who will officially be leaving. Any cryptic Twitter messages from the players?
Just meeting arranged with all the players on Wednesday. So guess we won't get official confirmation until late in the afternoon or possibly Thursday.

Assume Diagouraga also not required after yesterday's team selection, though like Mcglashan has another year to run. The interviewer also mentioned Iandolo as having another year. Don't see him being wanted either.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: normy on Sunday, May 5, 2019, 06:41:20
I'll be sorry if Dunne goes, he's had many good games imo, and always gives 100% effort with lots of experience behind it.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, May 5, 2019, 06:53:06
Not bothered about Dunne or McCourt leaving TBH, both occassionally handy squad members at best neither will play regularly next season if they do stay.

TBH on first sight McGilp looks at least as handy if its going to be mostly bench warming and coming off the bench and probably a lot cheaper in wages too.


Title: Re: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Monday, May 6, 2019, 13:51:09
Just meeting arranged with all the players on Wednesday. So guess we won't get official confirmation until late in the afternoon or possibly Thursday.

Assume Diagouraga also not required after yesterday's team selection, though like Mcglashan has another year to run. The interviewer also mentioned Iandolo as having another year. Don't see him being wanted either.
Not doubting what your saying but I'd be surprised if Iandolo has got another year to run on his current deal.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, May 7, 2019, 09:24:44
Not doubting what your saying but I'd be surprised if Iandolo has got another year to run on his current deal.
Wellens said he was weighing up sending Romanski and Iandolo out on season or half season loans next season to gauge their level. Hinting both would still be with us.

I think both are pretty limited footballers even for this league and could be shipped out much like Tom Smith last year who has now found his level at Bath City on loan where he could sign for next season on a perm transfer.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Tuesday, May 7, 2019, 09:58:57
Wellens said he was weighing up sending Romanski and Iandolo out on season or half season loans next season to gauge their level. Hinting both would still be with us.

I think both are pretty limited footballers even for this league and could be shipped out much like Tom Smith last year who has now found his level at Bath City on loan where he could sign for next season on a perm transfer.
Cheers PV. I remember him saying this about JR but not about EI. Any links?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, May 7, 2019, 10:05:33
Cheers PV. I remember him saying this about JR but not about EI. Any links?
No mate, it was about 5 or 6 weeks ago on BBC Swindon pre match, not sure if they are available anywhere online?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, May 7, 2019, 10:21:17
Wellens said he was weighing up sending Romanski and Iandolo out on season or half season loans next season to gauge their level. Hinting both would still be with us.


I haven't seen him play but Iandolo seems to have been knocking around there or thereabouts under various managers so I assume there are hope for him?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, May 7, 2019, 10:26:38
I haven't seen him play but Iandolo seems to have been knocking around there or thereabouts under various managers so I assume there are hope for him?
He played an absolute blinder in the AMC game at Plymouth earlier in the season otherwise he has disappointed on almost every opportunity he has played, his crossing is ok but his defending is woeful at best.

If he is played as a winger and not a LWB he could do ok but I would release him going by his perfomances when he has played.

If his wages are low enough he could be an ok squad member with occassionals off the bench but for me he needs to improve hugely to get a regular starting slot.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, May 9, 2019, 15:51:16
4 of the yoofs have signed pro deals.

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2019/may/academy-quartet-sign-pro-terms/

Including a young Ray Parlour by the looks of it.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, May 9, 2019, 16:06:06
4 of the yoofs have signed pro deals.

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2019/may/academy-quartet-sign-pro-terms/

Including a young Ray Parlour by the looks of it.

Its more Mick Hucknell I would say.....


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, May 9, 2019, 16:10:54
If we’re wheeling out cliched references to folk with red hair....

Dean Lewington.

 :)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Thursday, May 9, 2019, 17:16:33
Where do Graham & Haines play?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, May 9, 2019, 17:23:54
Where do Graham & Haines play?

Haines is a defender (pretty sure CB), Graham a midfielder.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: ronnie21 on Thursday, May 9, 2019, 18:44:07
When Bancroft came on against Colchester he looked a pretty big unit, but he is definitely not the biggest of those four if the photo is anything to go by.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Thursday, May 9, 2019, 18:50:35
Haines is a defender (pretty sure CB), Graham a midfielder.
Cheers


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: suttonred on Thursday, May 9, 2019, 19:30:53
When Bancroft came on against Colchester he looked a pretty big unit, but he is definitely not the biggest of those four if the photo is anything to go by.

Call me old fashioned, but impressed he's wearing a suit.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, May 10, 2019, 15:35:32
Henry signs a new deal


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, May 10, 2019, 15:40:13
Henry signs a new deal

Hopefully he gets a chance to stake a claim as number one at the start of the season.... bench sitting no good at his age, LMc is more suited to that role.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: aroundthefur on Monday, May 20, 2019, 18:45:29
Knoyle and Conroy leave club after rejecting new deals. (OS)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Ginginho on Monday, May 20, 2019, 18:50:50
Think that was fake, as the post on FB has now been deleted and there's nothing on the official site or their Twitter page.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: aroundthefur on Monday, May 20, 2019, 19:10:06
Well that’s embarrassing


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Super Hans on Monday, May 20, 2019, 19:35:26
That's a relief. Two players I would like to have on board next season. Especially  Knoyle.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Bogus Dave on Tuesday, May 21, 2019, 02:29:34
Think I’m in the minority in that I wouldn’t be too upset if conroy left - he’s eminently replaceable at this level, being a center back who can’t really defend (long raking passes aside, my only other abiding memory of him is being constantly out of position)

Knoyle would be a shame to lose


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, May 21, 2019, 05:30:00
My gut feeling is that Knoyle will stay and Conroy will leave.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, May 21, 2019, 06:24:43
According to Wellens, he’s taken Knoyle’s offer off the table and replaced with a reduced one cos he let the deadline pass. Still fairly confident he’ll stay.

Reckons he’s been unable to contact Conroy who’s on holiday - that sounds like adios


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: tans on Tuesday, May 21, 2019, 07:31:05
Good on him, cant have players fucking about


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Bogus Dave on Tuesday, May 21, 2019, 07:46:01
Would that reduction likely be a token offer at his current wage to ensure we at least get a fee if he signs elsewhere, with a clear subtext that he’s not wanted?


Title: Re: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Tuesday, May 21, 2019, 08:03:06
Would that reduction likely be a token offer at his current wage to ensure we at least get a fee if he signs elsewhere, with a clear subtext that he’s not wanted?
I'd hope so, should be worth a nominal fee and sell on clause.

Sent from my Mi A1


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, May 21, 2019, 08:03:59
Don’t think so. He said it was just in the hundreds and was making a point. Probably around bonuses rather than salary, I reckon.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 21, 2019, 08:04:39
According to Wellens, he’s taken Knoyle’s offer off the table and replaced with a reduced one cos he let the deadline pass. Still fairly confident he’ll stay.

Nothing makes a player want to stay more than a reduced contract offer :)

Suspect its as Dave says, or a simple hurry up and he'll sign on the original offer if he indicates he wants to stay.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, May 21, 2019, 08:08:43

Suspect its as Dave says, or a simple hurry up and he'll sign on the original offer if he indicates he wants to stay.

I'm sure if Knoyle now said fine, I'll sign the first deal we'd go for that and everyone's happy.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, May 21, 2019, 08:47:34
Knoyle would be the bigger loss of the two.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Old_Town_Red on Tuesday, May 21, 2019, 09:37:09
Don't reckon either will be here next season. Surely you would want your future sorted (if with Swindon) before going away unless you, or agent, are looking at other options.

I like RW honesty and transparency but not at the cost of rubbing players the wrong way.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, May 21, 2019, 09:45:49
Knoyle would be a loss. Conroy is replaceable.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Richie Wellen-Dowd on Tuesday, May 21, 2019, 12:04:13
It would be nice to think Conroy would replace the faith put in him, for the latter part of the season. He was hopeless when he came back. Against Cambridge he was worse than Lancashire, who was booed.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Waffle on Tuesday, May 21, 2019, 14:22:28
It would be nice to think Conroy would replace the faith put in him, for the latter part of the season. He was hopeless when he came back. Against Cambridge he was worse than Lancashire, who was booed.

Let’s hope he has some love left for the club and some sentiment. Could be said about both of them to be honest. Both began playing a lot better under Wellen’s, even if he does like to call people out in the press.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, May 22, 2019, 12:14:06
Joe Romanski signs a 1 year contract.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Old_Town_Red on Wednesday, May 22, 2019, 12:40:56
Joe Romanski signs a 1 year contract.

Happy with that. Cover for CB and LB next season sorted.

Good to see the young players like Henry, Romanski and Twine getting contracts, covers bases and probably all low wages which can then be used elsewhere.

Has RW said if he preferred him at CB or LB?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 22, 2019, 12:53:43
I don't think Romanski will ever make it as a full back, he should stick to centre back and learn his trade, too much utility is good for filling in but not good for improving in one position.

Send him out on loan for 6 months, tell them we want him played as a centre back then weight up his progress then.

I have not been impressed when he has played at LB.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, May 22, 2019, 12:55:32
I'm not convinced Romanski will make it as a league footballer, but more than happy to be proved wrong and I'm sure Wellens knows better than I do!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 22, 2019, 13:05:13
I'm not convinced Romanski will make it as a league footballer, but more than happy to be proved wrong and I'm sure Wellens knows better than I do!
Even hes not sure, in his last interview on the radio he said he is still closely monitoring Joe during his loan at Bath playing 8 times for them so he must have seen somthing. I too am not convinced yet.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, May 22, 2019, 20:36:54
Has it been noted how much Romanski looks like Hugh Skinner off of W1A?



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, May 24, 2019, 06:27:48
With Wellens now stating he wants to play 2 strikers - and therefore he needs 4 strikers - and playing 2 up top depends on the midfielders he wants, is he going 3-5-2 or 4-4-2?

Interesting that even in his dotage Richards was on good money, according to Wellens. Now freed up.

I think we’ll get more out of the ‘frozen’ budget next season. Taylor must similarly have been on a good whack.

Lot of deadwood cleared out, too.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, May 24, 2019, 06:53:19
Robertson, Lancashire, Taylor, Richards and Vigs must have been on decent money and Dunne and McCourt on not bad wages too and thats ignoring Smith and the 3 youngsters.

If Knoyle and Conroy leave thats 2 more decent wages gone, that must be enough to attract 7 or 8 good quality players.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, May 24, 2019, 07:14:02
‘If’ we can sign Devitt, I think that’s going to be a very good marker that we mean business next season. And you would think that other players that are maybe weighing up signing for 3 or 4 clubs may choose us as they can see the calibre of player we are looking to sign to help us in our aim of promotion.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, May 24, 2019, 07:30:00
The transfer window is a strange beast. Get linked to players we’ve never heard of or know if they’re any good or not, then get peeved if they go elsewhere.



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, May 24, 2019, 08:24:47
‘If’ we can sign Devitt, I think that’s going to be a very good marker that we mean business next season. And you would think that other players that are maybe weighing up signing for 3 or 4 clubs may choose us as they can see the calibre of player we are looking to sign to help us in our aim of promotion.

There is a sort of jungle grapevine in football, whereby player and agents become aware that a club means business, by spending a bit of money. Doesn't really matter, if it's dodgy like Bury, as agents know the players and themselves will get the money eventually.

Power would need to do something unlikely for that to happen, and certainly going the Bury road would be undesirable, so we'll repeat the pattern of last season, cobble together a squad and hope Wellens has some x factor. It can happen


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, May 24, 2019, 09:42:39
Recruiting 7-8 decent money players that are better than the 7-8 decent money players we've let go should not be too tricky.

Upgrading on Lancashire, Robertson, Richards, Taylor, Vigs should be liking shotting fish in a barrel.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, May 24, 2019, 10:03:50
Recruiting 7-8 decent money players that are better than the 7-8 decent money players we've let go should not be too tricky.

Upgrading on Lancashire, Robertson, Richards, Taylor, Vigs should be liking shotting fish in a barrel.

Looks easy enough on paper, but isn't.

Remember when Flitcroft had to do the rapid rebuild, he said that for every position he'd be talking to around 5 players, because you might get 1 to sign.  Last season showed the sort of thing... Brown offered to Moore and McGivern.... Moore preferred bench sitting at Franchise... McGivern preferred a return to Linfield.   We got LMc, who for obvious reasons was happy enough to get any gig, and then loaned in Nelson, as he couldn't find a centre half, for a permanent deal.

So it's likely that assuming Conroy doesn't sign, Wellens will be speaking to at least 10 centre halves... of whom 2 might fancy it.  Ideally you'd want the 2 to be top of the list, but it may be you end up with your last picks....


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Super Hans on Tuesday, June 18, 2019, 13:33:51
Wonder what will become of Diagouraga this season. Should be like a new signing if we get a good pre season out of him. Hope it's not a case of Wellens doesn't fancy him and that's that. Him, Rose and Doughty should be running games most weeks.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2018-19)
Post by: Kinky Tom on Tuesday, June 18, 2019, 14:00:20
Not too fussed if TD comes good or not, by that I mean I wouldn't mind if he left, we got very little football out of him last term so if we can move him on we could add a presumably sizeable wage to the budget.

We, unfortunately, saw him nowhere near his best so it doesn't feel like we're missing anything if he isn't here this season.  If we can get the best out of him he should be an asset but you'd imagine Rose, Doughty and May will be our preferred 3 CMs anyway.

On balance I think I'm in favour of moving him on if it means we can afford a good striker or winger in his place.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Costanza on Friday, June 21, 2019, 10:47:55
Conroy announcement pending...


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Kinky Tom on Friday, June 21, 2019, 10:56:31
Confirmed


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: reeves4england on Friday, June 21, 2019, 10:57:51
Conroy announcement pending...
Pended. Or pent?

https://twitter.com/Official_STFC/status/1142024207901089792


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, June 21, 2019, 11:00:34
Pended. Or pent?

https://twitter.com/Official_STFC/status/1142024207901089792

That hair needs to go. Its worth reading for the first response to the tweet alone....


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Friday, June 21, 2019, 11:21:28
Good news. Is that the centre of defence sorted now?

Looks to have run into some difficulty when painting a ceiling.
Noticed that quite a few players at all levels have had similar problems.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, June 21, 2019, 11:45:08
Only a 1 year deal though? Presume there must be a trigger clause unless Conroy himself said he only wanted a year?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, June 21, 2019, 13:07:55
Only a 1 year deal though? Presume there must be a trigger clause unless Conroy himself said he only wanted a year?

Have a good season and we go up, re-sign. Have a good season and we don't go up, leave. Have a shit season, who knows. His choice I reckon but could work for everyone.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Richie Wellen-Dowd on Friday, June 21, 2019, 13:27:57
Have a good season and we go up, re-sign. Have a good season and we don't go up, leave. Have a shit season, who knows. His choice I reckon but could work for everyone.

You'd suspect we would have wanted two years, but it's all good.

Didn't Wellens say that Baudry was offered an extension based on appearances, yet backed himself by turning it down? Don't really follow the logic of how that's backing himself.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, June 21, 2019, 14:32:54
You'd suspect we would have wanted two years, but it's all good.

Didn't Wellens say that Baudry was offered an extension based on appearances, yet backed himself by turning it down? Don't really follow the logic of how that's backing himself.

Higher salary without the security, gambling that he'll have a good year and we'll extend.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Richie Wellen-Dowd on Friday, June 21, 2019, 14:49:58
Higher salary without the security, gambling that he'll have a good year and we'll extend.

Fair point. Would have thought that he wouldn't end up playing enough to trigger anyway, if his form wasn't good. Gives more control to the player if he has a good season and we want to extend, so far as I can see.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 12:52:19
I see there are pics of the players on their first day back on the OS.

Don't see any pics of McGlashan  :hmmm:

In one of the pics I thought Jon Obika was there wearing number 3, turns out it was Kyle Reid!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Cowley38 on Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 13:30:03
I see there are pics of the players on their first day back on the OS.

Don't see any pics of McGlashan  :hmmm:

In one of the pics I thought Jon Obika was there wearing number 3, turns out it was Kyle Reid!

Dont tell Reg Mcglashen wasnt there!!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 13:36:17
I certainly couln't see him in any pics, he may be there but camera shy, like he was ball shy when playing for us :D


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Private Fraser on Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 13:49:29
 :hmmm:

(https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/resources/images/10040090/?type=responsive-gallery-fullscreen)

(https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/api/image/cropandgreyscale/07fec54e-429e-4a7c-8dfb-d40ef77ca588/?preset=square&greyscale=false)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Cowley38 on Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 13:52:21
:hmmm:

(https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/resources/images/10040090/?type=responsive-gallery-fullscreen)

(https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/api/image/cropandgreyscale/07fec54e-429e-4a7c-8dfb-d40ef77ca588/?preset=square&greyscale=false)

Reg Will be over the moon!!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 15:36:15
I certainly couln't see him in any pics, he may be there but camera shy, like he was ball shy when playing for us :D

Banished to train with the youth team perhaps


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: suttonred on Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 15:39:45
Dunno about that but I can see Ray parlour has invented a time machine


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 15:44:48
Interesting to watch that video. All about short, quick pass and movement.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Private Fraser on Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 16:10:27
A link to today’s training video:

https://twitter.com/official_stfc/status/1143546894095810560?s=21


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: singingiiiffy on Saturday, July 6, 2019, 22:26:13
has doughty new 2 year contract been announced on here?

good news as shown by important factual stats that provide evidence of more wins when he plays and wins help promotion.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: suttonred on Sunday, July 7, 2019, 08:59:57
Yes


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, July 7, 2019, 10:44:21
THE CURRENT SQUAD


GOALKEEPERS

12. Will Henry (2020)
23. Luke McCormick (2020)
39. Archie Matthews (TBC)

DEFENDERS

25. Joe Romanski (2020)
26. Dion Conroy (2020)
33. Tom Broadbent (2021)
34. Taylor Curran (2021)
--. Luke Haines (TBC)
--. Tyler Reid (2021)
--. Zeki Fryers (2021)
--. Mathieu Baudry (2020)
--. Rob Hunt (2021)
--. Daniel Ballard (LOAN)

MIDFIELDERS

3. Michael Doughty (2022)
7. Jermaine McGlashan (2020)
14. Ellis Iandolo (2020)
20. Toumani Diagouraga (2020)
30. Danny Rose (2020)
38. Jacob Bancroft (TBC)
--. Ralph Graham (TBC)
--. Adam May (LOAN)

FORWARDS

10. Keshi Anderson (2020)
22. Kaiyne Woolery (2020)
24. Scott Twine (2021)
36. Cameron McGilp (2021)
--. Jerry Yates (LOAN)

NOTE: There may be some errors.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, July 7, 2019, 11:02:17
That’s a stark way of seeing how light we are in midfield - even more so with Rose becoming Obika-esque and Dave still not getting a mention by Wellens.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, July 7, 2019, 11:05:57
I thought McGlip was a midfielder, not a defender.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Sunday, July 7, 2019, 11:54:07
Wiki has him as midfielder/centre back


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, July 7, 2019, 13:19:57
McGilp is definately just a midfielder.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Riddick on Sunday, July 7, 2019, 13:57:02
McGilp is definately just a midfielder.

Agreed. Excluding the two we believe he wants gone (McGlashan and Dave) and the two kids Bancroft/Graham.

We have

Rose
Doughty
McGlip (barely ever played league football)
May (not looked great in the friendlies yet)
Iandolo (what is his position? assumed he was LB cover more than midfield)

Its very light. I think i said before i'm surprised its taken an injury to Rose to prompt him to look for another defensive midfield player. He wants another number 10/winger as well so i guess there is 2 more to add to this pool.

In an interview he has said he is considering Woolery as a forward this year and he wants 2 more to compliment Woolery and Yates. Guess that means we consider Anderson as a 10 and maybe playing more of a midfield role this year as well?

I guess if he shifts the two he doesn't want then there could be another midfielder come in as well.







Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, July 7, 2019, 14:16:47
Call me old fashioned, but judging players on the back of 2 low key friendlies seems a tad twattish.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, July 7, 2019, 17:55:47
McGilp can play both in midfield and defence but I'll change it....

(https://media3.giphy.com/media/xThta4hZLLoRcn1XRm/giphy.gif)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, July 8, 2019, 07:53:50
Agreed. Excluding the two we believe he wants gone (McGlashan and Dave) and the two kids Bancroft/Graham.

We have

Rose
Doughty
McGlip (barely ever played league football)
May (not looked great in the friendlies yet)
Iandolo (what is his position? assumed he was LB cover more than midfield)

Its very light. I think i said before i'm surprised its taken an injury to Rose to prompt him to look for another defensive midfield player. He wants another number 10/winger as well so i guess there is 2 more to add to this pool.

In an interview he has said he is considering Woolery as a forward this year and he wants 2 more to compliment Woolery and Yates. Guess that means we consider Anderson as a 10 and maybe playing more of a midfield role this year as well?

I guess if he shifts the two he doesn't want then there could be another midfielder come in as well.

Conroy as the holder is one to consider.... we can still put out Audrey, Ballard and Broadbent if wanting a back 3.

There'll be 3 weeks til KO when they get back from Spain, and although in a better state than last season, still a bit of tweaking to do.  The outcome of which is really going to show us the intent. 

I don't think you can rely on Rose to give you 46 games, so if Toumani is a no go, we'll need another. A couple of front men will also need to come in.... yes we have to be patient, but recall last season waiting for Norris/Mullin replacements which never happened


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 9, 2019, 11:34:18
McGilp can play both in midfield and defence but I'll change it....

(https://media3.giphy.com/media/xThta4hZLLoRcn1XRm/giphy.gif)
Doughty can play left back, Anderson can play striker, Dunne could play right back, Lancashire could play midfield...doesn't mean they will or should though ;)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Quagmire on Monday, July 15, 2019, 08:35:32
I assume Doughty only spent a couple of days in La Manga last week, as we all know he only trains part time.....  ;)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Bogus Dave on Wednesday, July 17, 2019, 05:43:35
diagouraga and McGlashan been told to find new clubs


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Wednesday, July 17, 2019, 11:25:09
Had a butchers at the U18 team training earlier for five minutes as I cycled by the CG. Also snuck a look at the pitch while a delivery was being made via the Stratton Bank, as usual looks superb.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 17, 2019, 11:32:44
Had a butchers at the U18 team training earlier for five minutes as I cycled by the CG. Also snuck a look at the pitch while a delivery was being made via the Stratton Bank, as usual looks superb.
Marcus Cassidy posted a pic on Facebook last week, it does indeed look superb, but then it always does, he is an amazing groundsman.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, July 17, 2019, 12:44:15
Marcus Cassidy posted a pic on Facebook last week, it does indeed look superb, but then it always does, he is an amazing groundsman.
Or a very good photographer :)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 17, 2019, 12:47:36
Or a very good photographer :)
Tis all tricks of the light.

Typical Plymough fan! smoke and mirrors.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, July 21, 2019, 06:09:31
Injury update.

Rose, as we know, out til mid August. McGilp out for 4-5 weeks with hamstring.

Wellens now saying Conroy isn’t a natural defensive midfielder - the complete opposite of what he said earlier in the week!

If he wants a DM Jason Lowe is looking for a way out of Bolton.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Exiled Bob on Sunday, July 21, 2019, 08:47:46
Wellens now saying Conroy isn’t a natural defensive midfielder - the complete opposite of what he said earlier in the week!
No it isn't. It actually backs up what he said in the week, when he said that Conroy could fill in for that role but does need a bit work. He never said he was a natural DM.

Quote
If it’s not, then I’m not overly desperate. I think Dion (Conroy) can be really good for us and sit and break the game up.

I know what’s required after playing in that position, and Dion does need a bit of work. But if we get that work into him, then he can be a top player in that position.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Frigby Daser on Sunday, July 21, 2019, 08:51:05
McGilp and Rose have hardly had a kick between them since joining. It does make me slightly nervous about signing the likes of Isgrove. If a player has a chronic injury, it is tough to overcome - even more so when you move to a club with a less advanced physio team. Let’s hope they can all get fit and stay fit - we can’t carry passengers - certainly not 3.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, July 25, 2019, 11:56:56
Luke Haines-> Chippers (loan)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Kinky Tom on Wednesday, July 31, 2019, 17:41:46
Conroy made club captain:

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2019/july/conroy-given-captaincy/?fbclid=IwAR2YC7iBGl8oj9XyOMV3-OgV8FHHXidOUYwVhCyknIyvX-J8iLAbhKeuUe0


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Trashbat? on Friday, August 16, 2019, 12:38:20
Ballard out for 5 months and back at Arsenal according to the Adver live blog


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, August 16, 2019, 12:58:51
Surely Curran must be on a par with Ballard.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, August 16, 2019, 13:06:45
Ballard out for 5 months and back at Arsenal according to the Adver live blog
Fair fucks to him still playing the full game on Tuesday after doing his meniscus, when I did mine I could barely walk just after.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: RobertT on Friday, August 16, 2019, 14:22:03
Fryers can play Centre Back as well.

Since Jan we've lost Nelson, Lancashire & Robertson
We have added Baudry, Broadbent, Curran + Fryers as cover

We still look much better in this dept. and it's probably an area Wellens could even afford not to replace before the window, but he may decide to.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, September 6, 2019, 12:45:48
Ralph Graham joins Highworth town on a month's loan.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, September 11, 2019, 12:54:48
Romanski loaned to Melksham.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Bogus Dave on Wednesday, September 11, 2019, 13:55:13
ooof that’s a bit of a drop from Bath City last year isn’t it?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, September 11, 2019, 13:58:17
ooof that’s a bit of a drop from Bath City last year isn’t it?

It is. Two levels?

It's only a month so hopefully they'll find a higher placed club for the next move.

Nice set-up at Melksham though.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, September 11, 2019, 14:13:53
It is. Two levels?

It's only a month so hopefully they'll find a higher placed club for the next move.

Nice set-up at Melksham though.

Nice set up but they’re struggling this season, lost a lot of players after last years management quit.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, September 13, 2019, 08:43:25
Will Henry joins Chippenham Town on a month's loan.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, September 13, 2019, 09:37:18
Will Henry joins Chippenham Town on a month's loan.
Better move in the football pyramid than Romanskis to Melksham TBF.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Saxondale on Friday, September 13, 2019, 11:18:42
I think the Chippenham keeper is out for headbutting an opponent in a game so I guess Henry will get a few games.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Batch on Friday, October 11, 2019, 12:51:17
#STFC defender Dion Conroy out for six months after knee surgery on Wednesday. Not certain he will feature again this season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, October 11, 2019, 12:54:24
#STFC defender Dion Conroy out for six months after knee surgery on Wednesday. Not certain he will feature again this season.

That's shit. Gutted for him as well.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Batch on Friday, October 11, 2019, 12:55:17
Yeah, have to assume its a reoccurrence. Not great news for anyone.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: pauld on Friday, October 11, 2019, 13:06:45
#STFC defender Dion Conroy out for six months after knee surgery on Wednesday. Not certain he will feature again this season.
That's really shit, he must be devastated


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Friday, October 11, 2019, 13:12:52
Could be a career ender if it's the same knee.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Friday, October 11, 2019, 15:29:51
The lad is done. In professional football at least. Very long way back from one ACL, two of them...the odds aren't in his favour. It was a certain Matt Preston who came in as cover. This time it's Zakuani.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Quagmire on Friday, October 11, 2019, 15:32:34
The lad is done. In professional football at least. Very long way back from one ACL, two of them...the odds aren't in his favour. It was a certain Matt Preston who came in as cover. This time it's Zakuani.
But he hasn’t done his ACL?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Batch on Friday, October 11, 2019, 15:50:34
But he hasn’t done his ACL?

What has he done? I've not seen it specifically mentioned.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Friday, October 11, 2019, 16:01:46
But he hasn’t done his ACL?

Medial and Posterior with Anterior still partly intact but it is also damaged. On top of the historical injury. He's fucked.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, October 11, 2019, 16:30:27
Medial and Posterior with Anterior still partly intact but it is also damaged. On top of the historical injury. He's fucked.
Or he might not be. You're not the doctor or surgeon so you don't have a clue, nor do any of us, a bit early to just write him off.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Friday, October 11, 2019, 16:54:05
Or he might not be. You're not the doctor or surgeon so you don't have a clue, nor do any of us, a bit early to just write him off.

I originally said, the odds aren't in his favour. The same area and compounded damage on an historically damaged area...it looks very doubtful.

All bodies repair at different rates. Medicine still learns from the human body every day. I hope Conroy is one of those exceptional bodies that surprise even the most positive of surgeons.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: tans on Saturday, October 12, 2019, 12:42:19
Dion Donohue signs. Sacked by Mansfield earlier in the season


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, October 12, 2019, 12:42:47
I was just about to post that, midfielder/left back.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Processed Beats on Saturday, October 12, 2019, 12:45:06
Beat up a youth teamer at Mansfield.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Saturday, October 12, 2019, 12:46:09
Strange signing. First signing i don't quite understand


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, October 12, 2019, 12:46:38
Beat up a youth teamer at Mansfield.
He also assaulted a woman in a nightclub in 2012.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, October 12, 2019, 12:47:12
Strange signing. First signing i don't quite understand

Hes a left back/midfielder, so I understand it if Iandolo is out for a while.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Saturday, October 12, 2019, 12:49:12
Hes a left back/midfielder, so I understand it if Iandolo is out for a while.
Got Fryers though remember who i understand will be at centre half sometimes but i worry about overloading. Scrap that it is only month by month


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: tans on Saturday, October 12, 2019, 12:55:33
Rumour on twitter:

Paul Caddis training with us


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Saturday, October 12, 2019, 12:56:14
Put it in fucking rumours then


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: tans on Saturday, October 12, 2019, 13:00:10
Grow up Dean


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Saturday, October 12, 2019, 14:57:24
Should be banned really


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, October 12, 2019, 15:04:08
Should be banned really

Tempting.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Saturday, October 12, 2019, 15:13:47
Let's try it


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Batch on Saturday, October 12, 2019, 17:13:43
not a rumour now. confirmed by weekend
Wellens as plan B to Docherty.

will continue to train with the club


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, October 12, 2019, 17:34:29

plan B to Docherty.


Does that mean we're not signing him?


Title: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Batch on Saturday, October 12, 2019, 17:36:05
Quote
Does that mean we're not signing him?
Wellens said something like he'll continue to train with the club to get fit and we'll see where we are.

so a bit non committal really


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Bogus Dave on Sunday, October 13, 2019, 07:29:19
Decent signing assuming he wouldn’t want huge money - zero sense in spunking a big chunk of budget on a backup right back


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, October 16, 2019, 13:16:33
DJ now fit enough to figure on Saturday from the bench - impressing in training, apparently.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, October 16, 2019, 13:17:27
DJ now fit enough to figure on Saturday from the bench - impressing in training, apparently.
Will take May's spot on the bench as the 5th loanee then I would think.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, October 16, 2019, 13:24:23
DJ now fit enough to figure on Saturday from the bench - impressing in training, apparently.

Good. We need a spark, he might be it.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, October 16, 2019, 13:32:02
Would he be vying for Anderson’s spot if he is not fit? Him or Woolery? Or I have got his position wrong?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, October 16, 2019, 13:33:05
Would he be vying for Anderson’s spot if he is not fit? Him or Woolery? Or I have got his position wrong?
Yeah that will be his possible position, or even Isgrove too, will mean one of the 6 loanees will have to miss out though, I would guess thats May.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, October 16, 2019, 13:51:47
I would guess thats May.

No loss there.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, October 16, 2019, 13:52:44
No loss there.
Absolutely, have been massively unimpressed with every time I have seen him play, he needs to go back in January so we can get a a better option in.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, October 19, 2019, 14:34:56
Cameron McGilp on loan at Hungerford, playing today.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, November 6, 2019, 06:09:30
Looks like Donohue is going to be a perm.

2 out of our 6 loanees are cup tied for the weekend - that’s probably any 2 from Grant, Doyle and Yates.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, November 6, 2019, 07:49:52
Looks like Donohue is going to be a perm.

2 out of our 6 loanees are cup tied for the weekend - that’s probably any 2 from Grant, Doyle and Yates.
Donohue will prove to be an extremely astute acquisition IMO... :nod:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, November 6, 2019, 08:05:29
He's been good but when is Donohue due to 'face the music'?

He has previous...

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/local-news/teenager-pleads-guilty-assaulting-woman-2670516


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, November 6, 2019, 09:05:22
He's been good but when is Donohue due to 'face the music'?

He has previous...

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/local-news/teenager-pleads-guilty-assaulting-woman-2670516

No idea the incident was back in August so its been a while, suppose worry for the club would be would be with the previous, if guilty is a custodial likely?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, November 6, 2019, 09:56:38
Donohue is the left back we have been badly missing for many years, Wellens seems to prefer Fryers at CB, Gotta be a decent signing even if this case is hanging over his head at the moment and with his "previous".

As for the 2 loan players not able to be involved I would think its Doyle and DJ, Grant isn't wanted at Shrews so I think its unlikely to be him as they want him off the books asap.

It could be May as well because I wouldn't be surprised to see him go back to Pompey in January as hes a waste of a loan space IMO and a really poor player.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, November 6, 2019, 10:08:36
I see Cameron McGilp scored twice for Hungerford at the weekend in their 3-0 away win at Braintree.

https://www.hungerfordtown.com/teams/11575/match-centre/1-4489064/report

He was also selected in the National League South team of the week.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, November 6, 2019, 10:12:07

As for the 2 loan players not able to be involved I would think its Doyle and DJ, Grant isn't wanted at Shrews so I think its unlikely to be him as they want him off the books asap.


I may have imagined this, however if we have a deal in place to sign Doyle would it not be sensible to activate this and avoid the cup tied issues (I know we cannot sign him till the window is open but a simple side agreement between the clubs to honour the contract should suffice?)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, November 6, 2019, 10:26:11
I may have imagined this, however if we have a deal in place to sign Doyle would it not be sensible to activate this and avoid the cup tied issues (I know we cannot sign him till the window is open but a simple side agreement between the clubs to honour the contract should suffice?)
If we indeed do have a deal in place for Doyle as has been alluded to then yes it would make perfect sense to allow him to play.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, November 6, 2019, 10:49:13
Donohue is the left back we have been badly missing for many years, Wellens seems to prefer Fryers at CB, Gotta be a decent signing even if this case is hanging over his head at the moment and with his "previous".

As for the 2 loan players not able to be involved I would think its Doyle and DJ, Grant isn't wanted at Shrews so I think its unlikely to be him as they want him off the books asap.

It could be May as well because I wouldn't be surprised to see him go back to Pompey in January as hes a waste of a loan space IMO and a really poor player.
I’d guess the 2 are Doyle and Grant. Both their parent clubs were desperate to get rid of them, but surely their form to date may have changed their thinking. I can’t see DJ being anywhere near the Norwich 1st XI.

I still can’t see any reason why neither club is willing to make public whether Doyle has a recall clause or not. If I had to guess, I’d say it was at Bradford’s request to nullify any flak from their fans.

If Doyle has turned out to be shite, would we have a clause to return him in January or would we still be obliged to carry on coughing up his wages? Works both ways.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Wednesday, November 6, 2019, 11:02:23
Also doesn't being cup-tied diminish any possible transfer value for the selling club. I know Doyle can't play for anyone else this season other than Bradford (as stated on here), but if Shrewsbury want to max out Grant isn't more likely that he would be unavailable for the cup?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: singingiiiffy on Wednesday, November 6, 2019, 12:45:36
I know its not the exactly the same situation but from memory* remember when Cureton did fuck all for us then went on loan to Colchester and ripped it up. Including playing in the FA Cup scoring something like 5 goals in one match?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, November 6, 2019, 12:59:48
Well, here’s the question and answer posed at today’s press conference

‘Why all the secrecy surrounding Doyle's loan agreement - recall or no recall clause. These things are usually made clear and made public. For example, Jack Wilshere's season long loan at Bournemouth does not have a recall option. I don't understand the reason for keeping this secret.’

‘I'm not sure there is any secrecy per se, Doyle's loan will have a recall clause - as most do - and there are no plans for Bradford to recall him.

Though there will be a review period in January, so only time will tell. But as I understand it, Town fans have no reason to worry about Doyle heading back.’

Keshi out for up to 6 weeks


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, November 6, 2019, 13:37:00
Keshi out for up to 6 weeks
Bugger, that's a blow. Although probably the right thing to do, it does seem he needs an extended period of rest rather than constantly having the odd game off then coming back in and breaking down within 30 mins or so


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, November 6, 2019, 13:46:49
Tbh, the way he had to be virtually carried off on Saturday, I’m pleased it’s ‘only’ 6 weeks.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Boeta on Wednesday, November 6, 2019, 17:58:19
When’s Isgrove back?

With both Isgrove & Keshi out it has to be 433/451 as we don’t have any other genuine wide midfielders. Yates is going to have to get used to playing out on the right for a while


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, November 6, 2019, 18:31:07
Similar to Keshi - both 6 weeks.

According to Wellens, we’re going 442 Saturday - very un-Wellens like to announce the system this early.

Guarantee it’ll not be 442!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: tans on Wednesday, November 6, 2019, 18:36:00
 Caddis gone, no longer training with club.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Boeta on Wednesday, November 6, 2019, 18:53:38
Similar to Keshi - both 6 weeks.

According to Wellens, we’re going 442 Saturday - very un-Wellens like to announce the system this early.

Guarantee it’ll not be 442!
Ha - or because it’s the FA Cup he’ll experiment to see if DJ and Woolery can work as wide midfielders in a 442? They aren’t midfielders though so can’t see it working for long/at all


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Boeta on Wednesday, November 6, 2019, 18:57:00
Actually it’ll be Doughty left mid won’t it? And either moving inside or dropping to LB to allow Donohue to move into crossing positions. Get the idea but not sure it gets close to playing to the strengths of Doughty who can cut open any team in L1 or L2 if played at no. 8 and backed


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Wednesday, November 6, 2019, 20:37:31
Caddis gone, no longer training with club.

And with that, so do our chances of automatic promotion. For now  :hmmm:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Stef Troll on Wednesday, November 6, 2019, 21:00:36
And with that, so do our chances of automatic promotion. For now  :hmmm:

Stop being so negative.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Wednesday, November 6, 2019, 22:04:16
Stop being so negative.

I love that you thought of me but it is affectionate reference to our beloved TEF leader; Sir Reginald of Smeetonshire.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Thursday, November 21, 2019, 19:09:56
https://www.wrexhamafc.co.uk/news/signed-wrexham-afc-sign-tyler-reid-on-loan-from-league-two-side-swindon-town


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: swindonmaniac on Thursday, November 21, 2019, 21:31:00
https://www.wrexhamafc.co.uk/news/signed-wrexham-afc-sign-tyler-reid-on-loan-from-league-two-side-swindon-town
Bradford City striker Partick also signed for Wrexham,   Bradford making room for Doyle ?.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Thursday, November 21, 2019, 22:36:46
Bradford City striker Partick also signed for Wrexham,   Bradford making room for Doyle ?.

Bradford is Patrick's first real stab at pro football so is likely to not be on a high amount anyway. Barnsley took a punt on a non-league player, didn't work out. He signed for Bradford, managed to earn himself a 3 year deal?! Not sure what McCall was taking that day but hey-ho. Hasn't featured properly since his first season and has already been out on loan before. Assume the loan to Wrexham is purely to get him some games in time for the transfer window? Obviously not part of Bowyer's plans. His current deal runs out when next season starts. Even so, I would be surprised if he's on more than £5k pm. Doyle is on about £20k pm so they'd still need to do a bit more shuffling in regards to FFP Cap.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, November 23, 2019, 05:40:17
‘It is understood that all but one of Town’s five year-long loans have a recall period of just a few days while an unnamed player could be brought back at any time during the January transfer window.’

I’ve lost track on who we have on loan - Yates, Doyle, Benda, May year long (who is the 5th)

Grant loan until January


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Gwah on Saturday, November 23, 2019, 06:18:41
 DJ


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, November 23, 2019, 11:29:48
have a recall period of just a few days

Excuse me if I'm being thick, but what does that mean?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Richie Wellen-Dowd on Saturday, November 23, 2019, 11:35:50
Excuse me if I'm being thick, but what does that mean?

Their clubs have to make a decision whether to recall or not, within a specified time frame of a few days in January, rather than having the whole month to decide.

Presumably this is to protect us from having them recalled at the end of the month, meaning we have little or no time to organise a replacement.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, November 23, 2019, 11:35:58
Excuse me if I'm being thick, but what does that mean?
No its not just you, the wording of that statement is a bit weird, I thought long term loans could not be terminated outside of the transfer windows unless there was a discipline issue.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, November 23, 2019, 11:50:05
Their clubs have to make a decision whether to recall or not, within a specified time frame of a few days in January, rather than having the whole month to decide.

Presumably this is to protect us from having them recalled at the end of the month, meaning we have little or no time to organise a replacement.

Gotcha. Cheers.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Sunday, November 24, 2019, 17:47:06
Tyler Reid had a dissapointing 45 minutes on Saturday it seems ...

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Serious questions need to be asked though about Reid. How is it a loan players coming in and starting is blowing out his arse within 5 minutes and then having to be taken off before even half time?

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He was a crock of shite !!!
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Reid wasn't injured he wasn't match fit he was struggling before he went off.
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Not sure about Tyler Reid seemed ok going forward but heavy touch
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Reid for me had a decent cross on him but he was definitely ring rusty not what you want from a one month loan player who the hell vets um

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Reid was a joke
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Interesting that Tyler Reid said he hadn’t played competitively for months and still feeling the effects of a game he played 2 weeks ago! 2 weeks ago???!! So he basically needs a whole pre season before we would see the best out of him. He didn’t injure himself but got a muscle spasm after making 1 sprint. I can’t believe we’d take a loanee and start him despite being nowhere near match fitness.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, November 25, 2019, 09:54:58
Tyler Reid had a dissapointing 45 minutes on Saturday it seems ...


Its a bit shit that we have a player who has apparently been training here before going out on loan who is apparently so far away from being match fit!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: dphunt88 on Monday, November 25, 2019, 11:19:21
Worrying comments from Wrexham fans about Tyler Reid indeed. Admittedly it wasn't a particularly intense game, but he played 90 minutes for STFC at Bristol Rovers on 13th November, so should be in some sort of nick.

Compare Reid's 33 mins for Wrexham, to Broadbent's 30+ mins off the bench against Mansfield. Broadbent also played 90 mins against Bristol Rovers, but slotted in really well and helped Swindon combat the physical threat of Mansfield's Andy Cook/Nicky Maynard.

Should the lens zoom in on Reid? Personal responsibility to keep himself as fit as possible / ready to play when required? Disappointing.

Anyway, feels handy for Broadbent to become a genuine option in Wellens' mind again, because in the shape of Grimsby and James Hanson on 7th December... we may consider playing a horses-for-courses centre back to combat that threat? Looking further ahead for Broadbent, when we play Bradford in early January, Clayton Donaldson is a big unit who gave us issues in the 1-2 defeat back in October. It's nice to seemingly have the option again anyway!



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Wednesday, November 27, 2019, 17:47:39
Jermaine McGlashan off the bench for 1 minute as Chesterfield lose 5-1 at home. I think it unlikely Chesterfield will want to keep him past January and who can blame them?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Panda Paws on Thursday, November 28, 2019, 11:11:26
Jermaine McGlashan off the bench for 1 minute as Chesterfield lose 5-1 at home. I think it unlikely Chesterfield will want to keep him past January and who can blame them?

I think it's unlikely they'll want to keep any of their players beyond January!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Thursday, December 5, 2019, 12:27:46
https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/football/portsmouth-fc/portsmouth-ready-to-recall-adam-may-from-disappointing-swindon-stay-1-9163773

Adam May probably getting recalled in January. Not much of a loss?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: theakston2k on Thursday, December 5, 2019, 12:45:52
https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/football/portsmouth-fc/portsmouth-ready-to-recall-adam-may-from-disappointing-swindon-stay-1-9163773

Adam May probably getting recalled in January. Not much of a loss?
I’m sure we’d be sending him back anyway. Utterly useless in every game he has played and offers nothin.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, December 5, 2019, 13:19:46
He's quite young, good luck to him. Not ready to challenge for a spot yet based on what little I've seen.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: theakston2k on Thursday, December 5, 2019, 13:34:45
He's quite young, good luck to him. Not ready to challenge for a spot yet based on what little I've seen.
He's 22 so not really that young, he just doesn't seem very good at anything. No pace, no positional awareness, can't tackle, no creativity... I don't know what he does offer. We've lost every game he's started or played for a significant period in haven't we?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, December 19, 2019, 17:05:06
Tyler Reid’s loan at Wrexham extended until Jan 18. Didn’t realise he’s only played a couple of games for them due to a muscle injury.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: RobertT on Thursday, December 19, 2019, 19:56:54
He's 22 so not really that young, he just doesn't seem very good at anything. No pace, no positional awareness, can't tackle, no creativity... I don't know what he does offer. We've lost every game he's started or played for a significant period in haven't we?

He looked to have a decent shot - some midfielders made good International careers out of that skill.

By and large he was a non-factor in every appearance he has made so far.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: river monster on Thursday, December 19, 2019, 20:23:43
Anyone know how we did in the behind closed doors vs brizzle yesterday?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, December 26, 2019, 14:10:36
Conroy's contract extended for another year.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: tans on Thursday, December 26, 2019, 14:21:58
Conroy's contract extended for another year.

Good move.

Caddis offered a deal till end of the season


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Berniman on Thursday, December 26, 2019, 15:21:40
Conroy's contract extended for another year.

I thought I heard it as a 2 year extension?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Berniman on Thursday, December 26, 2019, 15:23:10
I thought I heard it as a 2 year extension?

Scratch that, 2021


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, December 30, 2019, 12:18:49
Haines returns from his Chippenham loan. Minor news but I wouldn't be surprised to see him on the bench over the coming weeks.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, December 30, 2019, 12:45:19
Haines returns from his Chippenham loan. Minor news but I wouldn't be surprised to see him on the bench over the coming weeks.
On the radio last week the Chippenham manager said he had tied him up for the rest of the season on loan.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: @mwooly63 on Monday, December 30, 2019, 12:47:42
On the radio last week the Chippenham manager said he had tied him up for the rest of the season on loan.

BBC wilts yesterday on the ifollow comms spoke to the chip manager. Said Haines had a shoulder injury and was going back to STFC for them to have a look


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, December 30, 2019, 12:48:58
BBC wilts yesterday on the ifollow comms spoke to the chip manager. Said Haines had a shoulder injury and was going back to STFC for them to have a look

Shut my mouth.

 :)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, December 30, 2019, 12:49:44
BBC wilts yesterday on the ifollow comms spoke to the chip manager. Said Haines had a shoulder injury and was going back to STFC for them to have a look
Ah cool, I didn't get to listen to or watch any of the game yesterday.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: @mwooly63 on Monday, December 30, 2019, 12:57:06
But just saw same BBC Wilts just posted he had been recalled so  :hmmm:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: @mwooly63 on Monday, December 30, 2019, 19:24:41
But just saw same BBC Wilts just posted he had been recalled so  :hmmm:

From Haines himself

Just like to thank everyone at @ChipTownFC for my time there! Mark and Gary gave me great opportunities and I wish everyone there all the best for the season, the fans and behind the scenes staff! Great club! #onceabluebird


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, December 31, 2019, 07:03:41
Who is this Haines fella?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, December 31, 2019, 07:55:21
Who is this Haines fella?

First-year pro, ex-youth. Defender.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, December 31, 2019, 08:55:53
Cheers RF


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: tans on Thursday, January 2, 2020, 12:52:04
McGlashan and Diagoraga contracts terminated by mutual consent


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, January 2, 2020, 12:52:40
McGlashan and Diagoraga contracts terminated by mutual consent
Excellent news.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: tans on Thursday, January 2, 2020, 12:54:23
Thats an alleged 7k a week between them off the wage bill


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, January 2, 2020, 12:58:11
Thats an alleged 7k a week between them off the wage bill

We will however have had to give them some sort of pay off....


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, January 2, 2020, 12:58:16
Thats an alleged 7k a week between them off the wage bill

But they'd probably still have recieved a hefty sum. It's not like we can take all of that money out of the budget.

Still good, though.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, January 2, 2020, 13:00:47
But they'd probably still have recieved a hefty sum. It's not like we can take all of that money out of the budget.
Oh they will do, probably at least a 75% pay off for the rest of their contract I would imagine, hopefully it will still be less than the entire contract pay off so saving us a little on the budget.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Gnasher on Thursday, January 2, 2020, 13:15:25
Glad we got shot of them. Just not quite up to the quality of the rest of the squad.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, January 2, 2020, 13:18:42
Oh they will do, probably at least a 75% pay off for the rest of their contract I would imagine, hopefully it will still be less than the entire contract pay off so saving us a little on the budget.

I'd imagine something like that is the deal.

It was fairly obvious early doors, despite some not agreeing, that TD was a bit Nalis. Shame as he could have been a Grant type player




Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Thursday, January 2, 2020, 13:22:45
Diagouraga has already agreed to join Morecambe, so maybe his pay off isn’t as significant as we may think  :hmmm:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, January 2, 2020, 13:37:10
Diagouraga has already agreed to join Morecambe, so maybe his pay off isn’t as significant as we may think  :hmmm:
Their fans seem really excited about his signing saying hes a big unit with loads of pedigree, sounds familiar.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, January 2, 2020, 13:45:34
I know i've said this a lot, but Diagouraga was an absolute carthorse every time I saw him. Slow, lumbering, clumsy and absolutely brainless in the tackle. Grant is a significantly better player.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, January 2, 2020, 13:49:44
Unlikely that Mcglashan will go back to Chesterfield after they sacked their manager Sheridan this morning.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, January 2, 2020, 13:53:34
I know i've said this a lot, but Diagouraga was an absolute carthorse every time I saw him. Slow, lumbering, clumsy and absolutely brainless in the tackle. Grant is a significantly better player.

Anthony Grant is probably the best player (midfield) we've had since 1st season Jonathan Douglas.

I wonder why he's never seemingly played higher than Div 3  :hmmm:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, January 2, 2020, 13:55:17
Anthony Grant is probably the best player (midfield) we've had since 1st season Jonathan Douglas.

I wonder why he's never seemingly played higher than Div 3  :hmmm:

I vaguely remember him playing for Peterborough at the CG and he was very poor, actually more like Swindon Diagouraga than Swindon Grant. I guess he 'fancies it' at the moment and its bringing out the best in him. Long may it last.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, January 2, 2020, 13:57:34
Anthony Grant is probably the best player (midfield) we've had since 1st season Jonathan Douglas.

I wonder why he's never seemingly played higher than Div 3  :hmmm:
I agree, apparently he can have an "attitude" which puts off a lot of managers.

Wellens seems to bring the best out of him, hes far better than even Kasim in his prime.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: suttonred on Thursday, January 2, 2020, 14:17:59
Where is Kasim these days? Not heard a peep about him for a year at least


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Panda Paws on Thursday, January 2, 2020, 14:19:44
Where is Kasim these days? Not heard a peep about him for a year at least

In Sweden.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, January 2, 2020, 14:22:13
I agree, apparently he can have an "attitude" which puts off a lot of managers.

Wellens seems to bring the best out of him, hes far better than even Kasim in his prime.

Including subs AG has played about 500 league games, his attitude can't be that bad.  Yaser is one of those rather sad stories, for a while with us he looked different class, but it was short lived. Of the sexy beast midfield of Luongo, Louis T, Gladwin and Yaser, only ML has gone on.... Louis and Ben undone by injury. Yaser  :shrug: who knows.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: suttonred on Thursday, January 2, 2020, 14:25:51
Just checked Kasim was In Sweden, was let go about 5 weeks ago. Currently without a club


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, January 2, 2020, 14:34:25
Yaser  :shrug: who knows.

I had always assumed that with a bit of success he just disappeared up his own arse, his Wiki makes interesting reading if only for the way its composed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaser_Kasim

Had forgotten we got 4 seasons out of him.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, January 2, 2020, 14:47:12
me too, can only remember half a season!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, January 2, 2020, 14:48:27
me too, can only remember half a season!
Ditto.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Thursday, January 2, 2020, 16:00:23
I reckon Wellens just talk straight to any potential troublemakers and says "We aren't here to fuck about, we're here to get success. Have an attitude then there's the door with a terminated contract. Play football and work hard/to potential then we all succeed/get moves we want/next steps."

I'm very aware these wouldn't be his exact words but I'm sure he doesn't stand for any shit. He's a Manc for starters; most Mancs I have known are gobby fuckers and opinionated. As well as not mincing their words they also do like to exaggerate whether on a negative or positive point.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, January 2, 2020, 16:01:44
Yaser was absolutely brilliant between 2013-2015. There was, for whatever reason, a significant decline between 2015 and 2017.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: donkey on Thursday, January 2, 2020, 16:21:20
Yaser was absolutely brilliant between 2013-2015. There was, for whatever reason, a significant decline between 2015 and 2017.

Loved watching him in those years when he was on it.  Worth the admission money alone.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, January 2, 2020, 16:59:24
I see that Dave has joined Morcambe after his contract was terminated today, he must have got some sort of pay off for him to join them straight away

On another note I see that Vigs has joined Orient on a freebie


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, January 3, 2020, 15:54:17
Iandolo out for the season. Ligament damage similar to the injury DJ had earlier in the season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, January 3, 2020, 16:00:26
At the pressser Wellens also noted that...

 BBC Wiltshire Sport
@BBCWiltsSport
The main news from today's #STFC press conference: RW is confident Paul Caddis will sign his contract extension and they expect to convert one of their loan deals into a permanent signing.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, January 3, 2020, 16:04:08
Iandolo out for the season. Ligament damage similar to the injury DJ had earlier in the season.

I hope we offer him another year, like we have with Conroy. He deserves it, and will be cheap.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, January 3, 2020, 16:11:17
At the pressser Wellens also noted that...

 BBC Wiltshire Sport
@BBCWiltsSport
The main news from today's #STFC press conference: RW is confident Paul Caddis will sign his contract extension and they expect to convert one of their loan deals into a permanent signing.
Good to hear, I would guess the perm signing will be Grant. Caddis would be a great signing.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, January 3, 2020, 16:13:08
https://www.totalswindon.com/sport/two-loan-signings-to-stay-at-stfc-says-richie-wellens/


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, January 3, 2020, 16:17:07
https://www.totalswindon.com/sport/two-loan-signings-to-stay-at-stfc-says-richie-wellens/

That seems to suggest that we still cannot register Donohue??


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, January 3, 2020, 16:18:30
That seems to suggest that we still cannot register Donohue??
It does seem that there are still complications.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, January 3, 2020, 16:18:51
I hope we offer him another year, like we have with Conroy. He deserves it, and will be cheap.

It puts the club and Iandolo in a peculiar position, if we get promoted does he warrant a new deal (not seen him  play so cannot really comment as to whether there is a D1 player in there?)?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Friday, January 3, 2020, 16:30:20
Reading that article it would appear that they (parent club) will not recall so he will stay on loan, that suggest either Yates or Doyle as Grant was only on loan till this window.
So who is it Doyle or Yates that is staying put?
I understand there are others on loan but none that are as influential.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, January 3, 2020, 16:31:19
It puts the club and Iandolo in a peculiar position, if we get promoted does he warrant a new deal (not seen him  play so cannot really comment as to whether there is a D1 player in there?)?

For the money he'll be on, I think he warrants a one-year extension irrelevant of division. He's useful, even one level up, at least in the medium term, and it's good to do the right thing too.

If he doesn't get an extension, his career is going to be in some potential jeopardy.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Power to people on Friday, January 3, 2020, 16:53:14
Reading that article it would appear that they (parent club) will not recall so he will stay on loan, that suggest either Yates or Doyle as Grant was only on loan till this window.
So who is it Doyle or Yates that is staying put?
I understand there are others on loan but none that are as influential.

I think Benda will be staying for the season, and I suspect Yates as Rotherham are going well so can probably do without and then decide if they want to offer him a new deal in the summer

That then leaves Grant & Doyle, you would guess Grant is available on a free transfer so potentially we could sign him, but I'm would suspect there is a deal for Doyle to be done also....


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, January 3, 2020, 20:45:31
Grant is spending the evening liking all the mentions of him by swindon fans over the last 3 months. Read into that what you will.....


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: theakston2k on Saturday, January 4, 2020, 01:56:53
Grant is spending the evening liking all the mentions of him by swindon fans over the last 3 months. Read into that what you will.....
Think it’s safe to assume he’s staying. Removed any reference to being on loan and now calling himself the “Swindon Seedorf”.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: reeves4england on Wednesday, January 8, 2020, 13:31:33
Caddis to sign an 18-month contract according to RW just now


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, January 8, 2020, 13:36:51
Caddis to sign an 18-month contract according to RW just now
Excellent news.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, January 8, 2020, 14:04:21
Caddis to sign an 18-month contract according to RW just now
Chuffed with that.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, January 9, 2020, 17:58:01
Caddis confirmed now.

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2020/january/caddis-signs-deal-until-2021/


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, January 9, 2020, 18:07:30
Lovely


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Thursday, January 9, 2020, 18:12:48
Him and Grant are massive signings...


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, January 9, 2020, 18:16:10
fantastic


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: singingiiiffy on Thursday, January 9, 2020, 18:33:10
Him and Grant are massive signings...

They are huge signings for the team. Just wish we had some new signings in before Saturday.

Our cb crisis has been going on for a while and even with doyle we were a striker short. The recruitment has been fantastic but I am a little disappointed with options for Saturday.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Gnasher on Thursday, January 9, 2020, 19:51:53
Brilliant news. Both signings have been overshadowed by the Doyle fiasco, plus the lengthening injury list, but having these two on board will be a massive boost to our promotion bid.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Saxondale on Thursday, January 9, 2020, 21:20:11
Fiasco?  In what way is it a Fiasco?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Gnasher on Thursday, January 9, 2020, 21:34:48
Fiasco?  In what way is it a Fiasco?

Ok, a bit strong. I mean the will he/won't he be allowed to stay uncertainly for weeks on end.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, January 9, 2020, 21:37:13
Maybe 'kerfuffle' was the word you were looking for?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Gnasher on Thursday, January 9, 2020, 21:45:43
Maybe 'kerfuffle' was the word you were looking for?

Perhaps, yes  ;D


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Saxondale on Thursday, January 9, 2020, 22:14:17
Fair enough.  I dont really like to argue with other G Nash's.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Gnasher on Thursday, January 9, 2020, 22:48:03
Fair enough.  I dont really like to argue with other G Nash's.

Indeed. Don't bash a Nash.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, January 11, 2020, 14:44:25
Youth teamer Marcus Ifill to Brighton to be confirmed in the next few days.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, January 11, 2020, 15:45:38
Youth teamer Marcus Ifill to Brighton to be confirmed in the next few days.

He's already confirmed it on Instagram.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, January 11, 2020, 15:53:09
He's already confirmed it on Instagram.
He has but the club haven't yet, he asked to leave a few months ago after he was told Brighton wanted him, we didn't stand in his way, a decent fee too apparently.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, January 11, 2020, 15:53:48
A Doyle sized fee?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, January 11, 2020, 16:04:10
A Doyle sized fee?
Apparently, so I hear.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: tans on Saturday, January 11, 2020, 16:30:29
275k


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, January 11, 2020, 16:33:52
275k
I heard £250k with add ons, nice fee for his age.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Batch on Saturday, January 11, 2020, 17:15:27
Wellens confirmed it on the radio just now (ifil)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, January 22, 2020, 13:49:24
The state of play...

THE CURRENT SQUAD

1. Steven Benda (GK - LOAN)
2. Tyler Reid (DR - 2021)
3. Zeki Fryers (D/WBL - 2021)
4. Danny Rose (DM/MLC - 2020)
5. Tom Broadbent (DLC - 2021)
6. Mathieu Baudry (DC - 2020)  
7. Lloyd Isgrove (AMRL - 2020)  
10. Michael Doughty (AMC - 2022)
11. Kaiyne Woolery (AMRL/ST - 2020)
12. Will Henry (GK - 2020) - On loan at Hereford
13. Cameron McGilp (MC - 2021)
14. Ellis Iandolo (AMLC - 2020)
17. Scott Twine (ST - 2021)
18. Jacob Bancroft (AML - TBC)
19. Jordan Lyden (DM - 2021)
21. Taylor Curran (DC - 2021)
22. Ralph Graham (MC - TBC) - On loan at Hungerford Town
23. Luke McCormick (GK - 2020)
24. Rob Hunt (D/WBRL - 2021)
25. Joe Romanski (DC - 2020)
26. Dion Conroy (c) (DC - 2021)
27. Diallang Jaiyesimi (AMRL - LOAN)
29. Archie Matthews (GK - TBC)
30. Keshi Anderson (AMR/ST 2020)
33. Luke Haines (DC - TBC)
41. Paul Caddis (DR/MR - 2021)
42. Anthony Grant (DM - 2020)
44. Rarmani Edmonds-Green (DC - LOAN)
TBC Hallam Hope (AMRL/ST - 2021)  

The Youths

36. Harry Parsons (YTS)
37. Massimo Giamattei (YTS)
38. Sam Smith (GK - YTS)
39. Anthony Cheshire (YTS)
40. Toby Holland (YTS)
43. Sonny Haynes (YTS)

NOTE: There may be some errors.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, January 22, 2020, 13:59:01
36. Harry Parsons (YTS)
37. Massimo Giamattei (YTS)
38. Sam Smith (GK - YTS)
39. Anthony Cheshire (YTS)
40. Toby Holland (YTS)
43. Sonny Haynes (YTS)

NOTE: There may be some errors.
[pedantry]Well, YTS was scrapped in 1989 ..... [/pedantry]


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, January 22, 2020, 14:00:17
[pedantry]Well, YTS was scrapped in 1989 ..... [/pedantry]

Youth Team Squad


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Wednesday, January 22, 2020, 14:51:09
Soon to include;

8. Jerry Yates (SLL)
9. Eoin Doyle (Perm - June 2022)

 ;)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, January 22, 2020, 16:20:13
Youth Team Squad
Good save :)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, January 22, 2020, 18:05:54
:D


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, January 23, 2020, 09:19:14
The adver says we have made 4 signings so far this window.

So that would be Grant, Reg, Hope, and...

I can't think of the 4th, or is it shoddy reporting from the adver again?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Thursday, January 23, 2020, 09:22:05
The adver says we have made 4 signings so far this window.

So that would be Grant, Reg, Hope, and...

I can't think of the 4th, or is it shoddy reporting from the adver again?


Caddis on an extended contract?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, January 23, 2020, 09:24:52
Caddis on an extended contract?
Yep.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, January 23, 2020, 09:26:00
Caddis on an extended contract?

Ah, that's the badger. Cheers.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, January 23, 2020, 10:01:47
Flashheart: Less reliable than the Adver


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, January 23, 2020, 10:02:41
I hang my head in shame.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, January 31, 2020, 09:53:00
Twine joins Chippenham until the end of the season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, January 31, 2020, 09:56:21
Twine joins Chippenham until the end of the season.
Good move for him to get some game time under his belt hopefully.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: singingiiiffy on Friday, January 31, 2020, 21:38:03
im lost, where we at with ins and outs, cant keep up with transfer thread.

IN: YATES, DOYLE, ADMIRAL, PALMER
OUT: TWINE, McGilp and Woolery leaving or not?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: PHIL!!!! on Friday, January 31, 2020, 21:40:23
im lost, where we at with ins and outs, cant keep up with transfer thread.

IN: YATES, DOYLE, ADMIRAL, PALMER
OUT: TWINE, McGilp and Woolery leaving or not?
Hope and REG = IN


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: DiV on Friday, January 31, 2020, 21:50:22
Hope and REG = IN

Two words you don’t often see in the same sentence


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: PHIL!!!! on Friday, January 31, 2020, 21:51:18
Two words you don’t often see in the same sentence

 Brilliant :D


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Friday, January 31, 2020, 21:55:30
Two words you don’t often see in the same sentence

Fuck, we may disagree often but that is gold, DV. +1  :hmmm:


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: singingiiiffy on Friday, January 31, 2020, 23:06:43
DJ, Doughty, Woolery, Isgrove, Yates, Doyle, Admiral, Anderson, Hope.

goals. creativity. goals. options. goals

 ??? i mean.  :eek: how the fuck do we pick our team now. never seen a situation like this. mental.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Super Hans on Friday, January 31, 2020, 23:08:44
Too many options. Power out.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Saturday, February 1, 2020, 06:53:59
Perhaps we're going old school with Inside Forwards, Half Backs and Full Backs?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: mexico red on Saturday, February 1, 2020, 07:08:07
DJ, Doughty, Woolery, Isgrove, Yates, Doyle, Admiral, Anderson, Hope.

goals. creativity. goals. options. goals

 ??? i mean.  :eek: how the fuck do we pick our team now. never seen a situation like this. mental.
Team today

Benda

Baudry

Grant, doughty

DJ, Woolery, Isgrove, Hope

Yates, Doyle, Admiral


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Red Frog on Saturday, February 1, 2020, 07:59:14
Team today

Benda

Baudry

Grant, doughty

DJ, Woolery, Isgrove, Hope

Yates, Doyle, Admiral

That’s not a lineup. That’s the charge of the Light Brigade.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, February 2, 2020, 13:01:14
I’d imagine the summer transfer window is likely to be a quiet one for us. Wellens/Power seem to have done a lot of their business done already.

If/when we go up I’d like to think Benda, Admiral and DJ would get another season loan. Yates could hopefully be made a perm if we can afford it.

Not too much needs tinkering with. More a job of getting a few players out, I reckon.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: suttonred on Sunday, February 2, 2020, 20:20:35
Yeah hopefully a quiet summer. Will certainly better than waiting for ages and find out you've signed Robertson early doors..


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: pauld on Sunday, February 2, 2020, 20:37:01
If/when we go up I’d like to think Benda, Admiral and DJ would get another season loan.
Think that's a bit optimistic for all 3, their parent clubs may have different ideas. Plus we've only seen Admiral for 5/10 mins, must have impressed you!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: singingiiiffy on Sunday, February 2, 2020, 20:55:35
Think that's a bit optimistic for all 3, their parent clubs may have different ideas. Plus we've only seen Admiral for 5/10 mins, must have impressed you!

not sure he touched the ball! nice just to have a striker on the bench, dont think he have ever subbed doyle if I remember.

I wonder if power is put off a bit by spending big on keepers. it would have to be very big to get benda. fodders superb for us but no fee, vigs we paid quite a bit for didnt we and then left for nothing. it's not that easy to come across a free good one but wellens and Jewell have proved it for this year at least it is possible


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Panda Paws on Sunday, February 2, 2020, 22:09:48
not sure he touched the ball! nice just to have a striker on the bench, dont think he have ever subbed doyle if I remember.

I wonder if power is put off a bit by spending big on keepers. it would have to be very big to get benda. fodders superb for us but no fee, vigs we paid quite a bit for didnt we and then left for nothing. it's not that easy to come across a free good one but wellens and Jewell have proved it for this year at least it is possible

There are so many good keepers at u23 level because the opportunities are so few and far between. Is take another season long loan for someone , but we'll probably need To replace LMc this summer too.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Power to people on Monday, February 3, 2020, 15:41:43
There are so many good keepers at u23 level because the opportunities are so few and far between. Is take another season long loan for someone , but we'll probably need To replace LMc this summer too.

I suspect Benda will step up next season into the Swansea squad probably a 2nd choice & DJ I reckon will maybe play a part for Norwich next season as they are likely back in the championship potentially as a squad player


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, February 3, 2020, 15:48:08
I suspect Benda will step up next season into the Swansea squad probably a 2nd choice & DJ I reckon will maybe play a part for Norwich next season as they are likely back in the championship potentially as a squad player
I have a feeling benda and DJ will both return next year on season loans.

Swansea vying for a play off to the Prem and Norwich having parachute payments will invest heavily to get back up again.

Just a feeling I have, could be well wide of the mark though.

I also think if his loan works well that the Admiral will come in on a season long loan next season too.



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Monday, February 3, 2020, 15:49:50
I have a feeling benda and DJ will both return next year on season loans.

Swansea vying for a play off to the Prem and Norwich having parachute payments will invest heavily to get back up again.

Just a feeling I have, could be well wide of the mark though.

I also think if his loan works well that the Admiral will come in on a season long loan next season too.



You comment has legs, no pun intended. Certain players and you have mentioned three could well be part of next seasons div1 squad.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, February 3, 2020, 15:55:46
You comment has legs, no pun intended. Certain players and you have mentioned three could well be part of next seasons div1 squad.
Swindon will be much more appealing to loaning clubs in the progress of their future stars if we are in L1 rather than L2, which we will be by then.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Monday, February 3, 2020, 16:20:49
Swindon will be much more appealing to loaning clubs in the progress of their future stars if we are in L1 rather than L2, which we will be by then.

This.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, February 4, 2020, 02:11:10
Is the loan market still open? Chance a couple still could be heading out if so.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: tans on Tuesday, February 4, 2020, 08:33:35
Only to non league i think


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: kirky69 on Tuesday, February 4, 2020, 08:45:55
Only to non league i think

Only likely candidates therefore are McGilp, Curran and Reid, none of whom would make the bench given current strength of the squad unless there is a succession of injuries.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, February 4, 2020, 09:15:31
Swindon will be much more appealing to loaning clubs in the progress of their future stars if we are in L1 rather than L2, which we will be by then.
We are also back to being a footballing team that plays out from the back so that will make PL teams more interested in loaning players.

Anyway isn't it nice to not have to worry about the transfer window for the rest of the season!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, February 4, 2020, 09:37:43
Is the loan market still open? Chance a couple still could be heading out if so.
As Tans says, loans to non league clubs are still allowed, as are signing of players out of contract until the end of March, so Donohue could still be an option if needed.

We are also back to being a footballing team that plays out from the back so that will make PL teams more interested in loaning players.

Anyway isn't it nice to not have to worry about the transfer window for the rest of the season!
Absolutely right.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, February 4, 2020, 15:51:51
Only likely candidates therefore are McGilp, Curran and Reid, none of whom would make the bench given current strength of the squad unless there is a succession of injuries.


Isn't there a rule about a homegrown or something along those lines needing to be in the match day squad so not all youngsters will go out


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, February 4, 2020, 15:59:03

Isn't there a rule about a homegrown or something along those lines needing to be in the match day squad so not all youngsters will go out
There is a rule but none of them qualify as club developed.

Quote
A Club Developed Player is one who has been registered with an EFL Club for a minimum of 12 months prior to the end of his Under 19 Season. From the start of the 2018/19 season, each EFL Club must include at least one Club Developed Player on a team sheet for each Sky Bet EFL Match (including Play Offs).

Twine, Henry, Romanski and Haynes would qualify.

Wellens seems to prefer to just pick 6 subs, which is allowed keeping the club developed place empty.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, February 4, 2020, 16:03:46
There is a rule but none of them qualify as club developed.

Twine, Henry, Romanski and Haynes would qualify.

Wellens seems to prefer to just pick 6 subs, which is allowed keeping the club developed place empty.
That's not what the rule you quoted says though, it says "each EFL Club must include at least one Club Developed Player on a team sheet for each Sky Bet EFL Match". Doesn't say anything about how many subs you name, so it reads like that would apply whether we name 7 subs or none. I'm sure there's some other provision that does allow for this, but it seems to contradict the bit you quoted?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, February 4, 2020, 16:04:51
That's not what the rule you quoted says though, it says "each EFL Club must include at least one Club Developed Player on a team sheet for each Sky Bet EFL Match". Doesn't say anything about how many subs you name, so it reads like that would apply whether we name 7 subs or none. I'm sure there's some other provision that does allow for this, but it seems to contradict the bit you quoted?
Thats why I changed it :)

There are 2 rules, one is Home Grown, one is club developed, they are very different.

My first post was about Home Grown but I then realised it wasn't a question about Home Grown it was a question on club developed players.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, February 4, 2020, 16:34:04
Thats why I changed it :)

There are 2 rules, one is Home Grown, one is club developed, they are very different.

My first post was about Home Grown but I then realised it wasn't a question about Home Grown it was a question on club developed players.
OK, but doesn't the same apply? Don't think we had a Club developed player on the bench either did we? Or am I being thick?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: anglia red on Tuesday, February 4, 2020, 16:44:14
I dont know the rules but from has been said I assume that you can have 7 subs if you include a home developed player if you dont  its 6 subs


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, February 4, 2020, 16:54:31
I dont know the rules but from has been said I assume that you can have 7 subs if you include a home developed player if you dont  its 6 subs
I think that's what PV is saying, but it doesn't seem to be what the rule he quoted says, hence my confusion. I'm sure it's just me being thick, it's been that kind of day :(


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, February 4, 2020, 17:10:24
Changing tact slightly I think it was on this thread that it was mooted that DJ could be a target for a season long but I think at 22 he's going to be given a chance at Championship level, presumably with Norwich. He's been absolutely unplayable recently.

This suggests he is out of contract at the end of the season, he'd be an absolutely out of this world signing for next season but you would imagine Norwich will look to extend.

https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2020/02/03/do-outstanding-unplayable-manager-claims-norwich-loanee-is-100-p/


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Tuesday, February 4, 2020, 18:03:07
Good of the FA to allow us 7 subs for the rest of the season with no obligation to have a youngster on the bench. Something to do with us having sold ‘a few’ kids already this season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, February 4, 2020, 18:47:28
I dont know the rules but from has been said I assume that you can have 7 subs if you include a home developed player if you dont  its 6 subs
Yes that is correct.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, February 4, 2020, 19:06:49
Not too much of interest in the phone in. Grant and Doyle both 6 month deals to be reviewed if/when we get promoted.

Sounds a bit pissed off re training facilities.

No idea on favourite cheese.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: kirky69 on Tuesday, February 4, 2020, 19:42:25
Sounds like a strong team playing at Melksham in the Wiltshire Shield against Salisbury tomorrow.  Will be worth a watch for us locals with Isgrove, Rose, Lyden, Broadbent, McGilp, Curran, McCormick as well as new boys Palmer and Muskwe all starting. Decent pitch there also.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: tans on Tuesday, February 4, 2020, 19:43:48
McGlip went on trial at Waterford and they arent taking him


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, February 4, 2020, 20:47:11
McGlip went on trial at Waterford and they arent taking him
He seems more interested in becoming a professional gamer.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, February 4, 2020, 20:51:37
He seems more interested in becoming a professional gamer.

Decent money in it if he does well


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, February 5, 2020, 09:11:52
He seems more interested in becoming a professional gamer.

What is that thing he keeps putting on Twitter? Is it so that people can watch him on his playbox?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, February 5, 2020, 10:00:09
Yes that is correct.
Don't think it is. Wellens clarified this last night. Ordinarily, we'd need to have one home grown on the bench but we've "got a letter from the FA" giving us special dispensation not to as we are developing and selling players younger. Don't think the numbers on the bench come into it, he said in his postmatch on Saturday that he only went with 6 because that's all he thought was up to the standard (paraphrasing).


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, February 5, 2020, 10:26:50
Don't think it is. Wellens clarified this last night. Ordinarily, we'd need to have one home grown on the bench but we've "got a letter from the FA" giving us special dispensation not to as we are developing and selling players younger. Don't think the numbers on the bench come into it, he said in his postmatch on Saturday that he only went with 6 because that's all he thought was up to the standard (paraphrasing).
Interesting, lets see if we carry on with just 6 on the bench or back to 7 if thats the case.

I am not always convinced Mr Wellens fully understand the rules, like his comments about signing players up to 11.59am on a Saturday.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, February 5, 2020, 10:38:03
Don't think it is. Wellens clarified this last night. Ordinarily, we'd need to have one home grown on the bench but we've "got a letter from the FA" giving us special dispensation not to as we are developing and selling players younger.
So basically we get a dispensation for treating young kids like cattle, that can't be right, although I accept that this is the FA we are talking about!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, February 5, 2020, 11:03:11
So basically we get a dispensation for treating young kids like cattle, that can't be right, although I accept that this is the FA we are talking about!
Not sure we're "treating young kids like cattle". As I understand it, the lad was happy to go to Brighton and is thriving there.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Wednesday, February 5, 2020, 11:07:22
The point was we are putting all of our youth development finances into developing 'young kids'. We don't have a U21 or U23 set up (we stop at U18). The dispensation was because we are still trying to nurture 'young kids' so that they can flourish elsewhere.



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, February 5, 2020, 11:09:35
Interesting, lets see if we carry on with just 6 on the bench or back to 7 if thats the case.

I am not always convinced Mr Wellens fully understand the rules, like his comments about signing players up to 11.59am on a Saturday.
Ha you may well have a point there. Although I suspect he understands the rules very well, but he does have a track record of "fogging" in interviews to the team's advantage :)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, February 5, 2020, 11:18:54
Not sure we're "treating young kids like cattle". As I understand it, the lad was happy to go to Brighton and is thriving there.
He asked to leave said he had heard of interest and wanted to go there, we couldn't stop him and if it furthers his progress then its a great career move for the lad.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, February 5, 2020, 11:19:35
The point was we are putting all of our youth development finances into developing 'young kids'. We don't have a U21 or U23 set up (we stop at U18). The dispensation was because we are still trying to nurture 'young kids' so that they can flourish elsewhere.



That makes much more sense.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, February 5, 2020, 11:19:46
Ha you may well have a point there. Although I suspect he understands the rules very well, but he does have a track record of "fogging" in interviews to the team's advantage :)
Fogging, yes thats one word for it!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, February 5, 2020, 11:31:09
Not sure we're "treating young kids like cattle". As I understand it, the lad was happy to go to Brighton and is thriving there.

Probably so, it just seems a little dubious to attach a dispensation specifically to achieving a churn of kids. As long as its the kids who make the decision and they are happy fantastic.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, February 5, 2020, 11:39:54
Probably so, it just seems a little dubious to attach a dispensation specifically to achieving a churn of kids. As long as its the kids who make the decision and they are happy fantastic.
As far as I know every youngster that has left our schoolboy/youth line up for the "big leagues" Walcott, Ifill, Bogle, Mitchell-Lawson, Henshall, the couple Chelsea took and the keeper Stevens to Liverpool all wanted to leave to forward their careers. For whatever reason a fair few never got much further but you can't blame them for trying. No player was made to leave at that age.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, February 5, 2020, 11:46:22
As far as I know every youngster that has left our schoolboy/youth line up for the "big leagues" Walcott, Ifill, Bogle, Mitchell-Lawson, Henshall, the couple Chelsea took and the keeper Stevens to Liverpool all wanted to leave to forward their careers. For whatever reason a fair few never got much further but you can't blame them for trying. No player was made to leave at that age.

The boy Young opted to stay, Luke stuck him in the team but promptly injured and went nowhere.... had he joined Chelsea, porobably still wouldn't have made it, but picked up a nice little nest egg for a kid.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, February 5, 2020, 11:48:36
Yes the kids have to look after their own career, which Swindon encourages, Young being the only one I can remember who prefered to stay rather than leave, but nobody at the club ever forced him out, as they didn't with the others, they all wanted to leave to further their careers.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Tails on Wednesday, February 5, 2020, 11:48:42
He asked to leave said he had heard of interest and wanted to go there, we couldn't stop him and if it furthers his progress then its a great career move for the lad.

Brighton are doing quite a good job of getting their young players through.

Wouldn't be surprised if we are loaned a player or two from them in the coming seasons. We were due to get the young lad who scored a couple v Tottenham in the Summer but that fell through.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, February 5, 2020, 11:55:52
We do have a good relationship with Brighton, not sure who is in charge of the U23s/youth teams down there but we have been touted a few times with their players.

We got Brad Barry from their youth team, the crap midfielder...Starkey, Rob Hunt is ex Brighton youngster its like we are being tipped off about their cast offs. Not that its a bad thing, some work some dont. Lots of signings recently have spent time with Brighton too, Rodgers, El Abd, Ince, Hall, Barker, Harley, Kasim etc.

Alzate did fairly well for us too.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, February 5, 2020, 12:07:49
We do have a good relationship with Brighton, not sure who is in charge of the U23s/youth teams down there but we have been touted a few times with their players.

We got Brad Barry from their youth team, the crap midfielder...Starkey, Rob Hunt is ex Brighton youngster its like we are being tipped off about their cast offs. Not that its a bad thing, some work some dont. Lots of signings recently have spent time with Brighton too, Rodgers, El Abd, Ince, Hall, Barker, Harley, Kasim etc.

Alzate did fairly well for us too.

Luke was their youth coach....


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, February 5, 2020, 12:09:09
We do have a good relationship with Brighton, not sure who is in charge of the U23s/youth teams down there but we have been touted a few times with their players.


Simon Rusk
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Rusk


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, February 5, 2020, 12:10:22
Having a look on their OS the Youth/U23 coach at Brighton is Simon Rusk, a player who was a youth at Peterborough when Power played for them and Power ended his career at Bostonin 2001 the season that Rusk started his career at Boston.

That could well be the link.

Talking of Simon Rusk, apprently hes favourite for the Cambridge job to replace Calderwood!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, February 5, 2020, 12:11:24
Luke was their youth coach....
He was indeed.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, February 5, 2020, 12:12:35
Simon Rusk
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Rusk
Beat me by a few seconds!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, February 5, 2020, 12:24:43
Beat me by a few seconds!

I couldn't see the link to us though!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, February 5, 2020, 12:30:15
I couldn't see the link to us though!
That plus the Williams ties could well be it, Williams had obviously left way before we go Alzate in on loan.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, February 5, 2020, 12:32:36
Having a look on their OS the Youth/U23 coach at Brighton is Simon Rusk, a player who was a youth at Peterborough when Power played for them and Power ended his career at Bostonin 2001 the season that Rusk started his career at Boston.

That could well be the link.

Talking of Simon Rusk, apprently hes favourite for the Cambridge job to replace Calderwood!
Might encounter some teething difficulties :)


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, February 5, 2020, 12:33:19
Not if he finds the right formula


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, February 5, 2020, 12:34:28
Difficult job, I hope he appoints Adam Farley as his assistant!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Gnasher on Wednesday, February 5, 2020, 18:58:30
Plenty of first-teamers in the Wilts Shield v Salisbury tonight

McCormick, Reid, Curran, Broadbent, McGilp, Rose, Lyden, Palmer, Isgrove, Muskwe, Parsons.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Abrahammer on Wednesday, February 5, 2020, 19:03:41
We’ve had worse first team starting lineups than that in recent years, goes to show the depth we have currently


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, February 15, 2020, 00:36:58
Jacob Bancroft joins Wantage Town on a month's loan.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: suttonred on Saturday, February 15, 2020, 08:05:23
One of my brothers watches Thatcham where he was at, and said he really needs to up his game if he's going to make it as a pro.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Thursday, February 20, 2020, 07:05:49
Sounds like Joe Romansksi is doing well at Melksham and they're having an absolutely storming run at the moment...

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/18248574.joe-romanski-says-turned-offers-play-loan-higher-division-repay-faith-confidence-melksham-town-shown-time-infiled-arena/


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: theakston2k on Thursday, February 20, 2020, 21:44:05
Sounds like Joe Romansksi is doing well at Melksham and they're having an absolutely storming run at the moment...

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/18248574.joe-romanski-says-turned-offers-play-loan-higher-division-repay-faith-confidence-melksham-town-shown-time-infiled-arena/
Sounds self defeating and to be honest pretty stupid to me, turn down chances to play and prove yourself at a higher level in favour of staying in southern league division 1. That’ll be him released in the summer then as he’s clearly one of the ones Wellens was annoyed with about loan moves.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Thursday, February 20, 2020, 22:04:34
Sounds self defeating and to be honest pretty stupid to me, turn down chances to play and prove yourself at a higher level in favour of staying in southern league division 1. That’ll be him released in the summer then as he’s clearly one of the ones Wellens was annoyed with about loan moves.

Unfortunately stinks of "Fear of failure" for Joe. A shame but at Melksham he'll been seen as a big fish in a small pond. He'll probably enjoy that, especially while on a pro wage. Likely be too late to realise it was the wrong decision when the penny drops.

My mantra is to always push yourself and it should never be a piece of piss. It's all relative though, if he's comfortable with that then fair enough. Shame though, it's a privileged position to be in and you'd like to think he would make the most of it. Hope he doesn't regret it when he looks back.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: theakston2k on Thursday, February 20, 2020, 22:15:59
Unfortunately stinks of "Fear of failure" for Joe. A shame but at Melksham he'll been seen as a big fish in a small pond. He'll probably enjoy that, especially while on a pro wage. Likely be too late to realise it was the wrong decision when the penny drops.

My mantra is to always push yourself and it should never be a piece of piss. It's all relative though, if he's comfortable with that then fair enough. Shame though, it's a privileged position to be in and you'd like to think he would make the most of it. Hope he doesn't regret it when he looks back.
I’ve played one level below that and I’m crap. He’s playing teams like Slimbridge and Cinderford from what I remember when I played, it’s not even remotely close to league level. Seems very foolish to me.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Friday, February 21, 2020, 01:04:27
I’ve played one level below that and I’m crap. He’s playing teams like Slimbridge and Cinderford from what I remember when I played, it’s not even remotely close to league level. Seems very foolish to me.

Hmmm it does seem a tad strange. But maybe he isn't having much foresight and thinks "this is alright, piss easy football, less training and I'm still getting a pro wage."

It'll bite him on the bum. I wasn't brilliant but half decent, the closest I got to "big time" was training with Hednesford Town Reserves. It was probably a borderline moment for myself after missing out getting picked up by Chesterfield (two other lads in my team did but they weren't great and one was a stroppy cunt (surprised then he didn't go on to make a career in the Prem!), one of our keepers got picked up deservedly by Notts County, I was certain he would make it) but travelling 3-4 times a week as a 16/17yr old to Cannock Chase with no parents to take me or afford to fund it, it was quite difficult to maintain (travelling from near Chesterfield). Had there been more support links/programmes I could've continued.

A raft of trials and playing for a few semi-pro clubs followed. Coupled with being jaded by the Chesterfield miss out and other things beginning to interest me (not just the cliche of women and beer), you feel that bit of the dream slipping away. There's a millions, if not more similar stories to mine. I'm sure with ones that got even closer to being a "nearly man".


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Tails on Friday, February 21, 2020, 13:40:20
That's an interesting way to make a story about Joe Romanski about yourself....

I like Joe. Trains at the same gym at me and is a nice lad... I hope he can come back into the STFC fold.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Saxondale on Friday, February 21, 2020, 16:38:22
My nephew Olly play at Melksham with him.  Says he's allright.

Searing insight as ever there.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: suttonred on Friday, February 21, 2020, 16:55:48
Seems a bit harsh to me with the lack of ambition comments. He's young and enjoying life, why not enjoy it whilst it lasts. I would.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Friday, February 21, 2020, 21:07:49
That's an interesting way to make a story about Joe Romanski about yourself....

I like Joe. Trains at the same gym at me and is a nice lad... I hope he can come back into the STFC fold.

Not really. Theakston mentioned he played at a similar level to that JR is at currently. Natural conversation flow meant there was a relative interest that came full circle. I was purely offering a slight insight as to what JR may be thinking and highlighted the difficulties of "making it", that are sometimes out of our hands. For JR, he is in a more privileged position. I'm purely saying I hope he doesn't waste it.

Sorry for being semi-decent at football and offering a "relative" experience. The fuck is it with some of you people on here.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Boeta on Wednesday, March 4, 2020, 10:43:15
Real shame Lydon is out for the rest of the season. Class act of a player.

We’ve consistently looked our best when playing 433 with Lydon, Grant and Doughty in mid

Fine to play 4231 at home but will be interesting if Rose or Palmer get a run in the away games


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, March 4, 2020, 10:49:17
Lyden is a big miss but we have the talent at the club in midfield to soak up that problem, we have Palmer, Rose and Anderson who can now vye for a starting place in a similar slot in the team.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: singingiiiffy on Saturday, May 16, 2020, 10:38:23
wonder how many of the current squad we will see again. shame we probably wont see doyle or benda again in a shirt town


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, May 16, 2020, 10:49:08
‘This Town is looking like a Shirt Town’


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, May 16, 2020, 11:01:19
wonder how many of the current squad we will see again. shame we probably wont see doyle or benda again in a shirt town
I think Benda and DJ and possibly REG will come back next season, Yates may well be made a perm signing too.

Not sure Muskwe was up to the required level in L2 let alone L1, but never saw enough from him to make a judgement, he did well in 2 games but poor in the other 4 or 5 games he came on.

Doyle and Grant I would like to think will be given a year extention as Wellens hinted was in their contracts.

Benda is probably not close enough to first team level at Swansea so I think they will be happy to send him back for at least 6 months loan, Norwich have said DJ needs to step up another level before he can get into their side, we will be at that higher level.

REG I think could be a decent squad player and us being a league higher would work in our favour, he only made a handful of mistakes in his 9 games and looks promising.

Yates obviously loves it at Swindon and plays 3 or 4 good games for every 5 he plays, if he could improve his finishing he would be a very good Championship level player.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, May 18, 2020, 08:41:58
When is the Retained List usually published?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 18, 2020, 08:56:41
When is the Retained List usually published?
It often varies heavily, some do not announce it until the final contract date of 1st June, but many clubs announce players that will not be having contracts renewed as soon as they have kicked their final ball of the season.

Usually all players that will be leaving clubs will already know their fate by the last game of the season anyway as the players will have been told they are free to find new clubs.

This is definately very different though as even players under contract may have their contracts terminated anyway if next season is postponed for a year, which has been mooted, then almost every player in L1 and L2 would be a free agent come the start of the actual next season.

Clubs will of course have to honour longer contracts but it could mean almost a totally level playing field player wise in a years time.

I doubt any club this low in the league structure could survive if they have to pay players for a whole season playing no competitive matches and with pretty much zero income.



Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, May 18, 2020, 09:42:31
Lee Power stated in the TalkSport interview that the conversation hasn't even started.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 18, 2020, 10:13:46
Lee Power stated in the TalkSport interview that the conversation hasn't even started.
Under the present circumstances thats understandable as until Friday we didn't even know what league we would be in next season.

I was commentaing on what usually happens not what has happened this season as the question asked.


Title: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 18, 2020, 10:14:41
more importantly we can't see a revenue stream to sustain the club!

he said he's normally had the conversations by now, even if the retained list isn't it officially


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, May 18, 2020, 10:31:09
Under the present circumstances thats understandable as until Friday we didn't even know what league we would be in next season.


I don't think we really even know now do we?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 18, 2020, 10:33:28
I don't think we really even know now do we?
We know that as far as the league is concerned we are promoted, as far as final position is concerned we do not yet.

Is how I understand it.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, May 18, 2020, 11:06:50
We know that as far as the league is concerned we are promoted, as far as final position is concerned we do not yet.

Is how I understand it.

But I assume (and fear) that promotion depends on L1 playing ball and they seem to be unable to agree what biscuits to have let alone how to end their season,and then we have the Championship!?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Monday, May 18, 2020, 11:30:49
But I assume (and fear) that promotion depends on L1 playing ball and they seem to be unable to agree what biscuits to have let alone how to end their season,and then we have the Championship!?
I think we will replace Bury won't we?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, May 18, 2020, 12:04:57
I think we will replace Bury won't we?

I'd forgotten about Bury, I assume we end up top whether they choose WPPG or PPG?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, May 18, 2020, 12:17:53
We’re bomb proof as far as promotion is concerned. Whether we’ll have anyone to play against by the time any new season starts is another matter - ourselves included.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 18, 2020, 12:23:21
Quote from: horlock07
I assume we end up top whether they choose WPPG or PPG?

yup.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, May 18, 2020, 14:15:45
I assume its just going to be a case of keeping whoever we have to furloughed until October and hoping to god we can get some revenue for then, followed by a massive bun fight when a start date for the 2020-21 (provisionally at least) season begins, looks like we are going to have to fund from the playing staff...

2. Tyler Reid (DR - 2021)
3. Zeki Fryers (D/WBL - 2021)
5. Tom Broadbent (DLC - 2021)
8. Matty Palmer (MC - 2021)
10. Michael Doughty (AMC - 2022)
13. Cameron McGilp (MC - 2021)
17. Scott Twine (ST - 2021)
19. Jordan Lyden (DM - 2021)
21. Taylor Curran (DC - 2021)
24. Rob Hunt (D/WBRL - 2021)
26. Dion Conroy (c) (DC - 2021)
36. Harry Parsons (YTS)
37. Massimo Giamattei (YTS)
38. Sam Smith (GK - YTS)
39. Anthony Cheshire (YTS)
40. Toby Holland (YTS)
41. Paul Caddis (DR/MR - 2021)
43. Sonny Haynes (YTS)
45. Hallam Hope (AMRL/ST - 2021)  

For once in our recent history we actually have a fair few contracted for next season, sods bloody law isn't it!

 


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: donkey on Monday, May 18, 2020, 14:18:44
Be nice to see Grant, Yates and Doyle added to that list.  Benda, too, but I'd be surprised.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: singingiiiffy on Monday, May 18, 2020, 14:54:48
a lot of clubs came out and said that they were furloughing the players, did I miss that we were one of them? I would be suprised if all league 2 clubs weren't using it tbh.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, May 18, 2020, 15:02:23
We were furloughing and topping up their wages.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Wednesday, May 20, 2020, 19:14:12
Wellens said tonight that contract offers will be in by Friday but the players will be told they can’t sign them yet as we can’t afford to pay them through the summer. He mentioned Grant, Doyle, Anderson and Fryers specifically. Other clubs will be in the same boat so no concerns about them being pinched.

He also said that of the 1500 players out of contract this summer he thinks half will fall out of the game!


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: JBZ on Wednesday, May 20, 2020, 19:22:08
I am willing to play for free if that assists the club in these difficult times. Maybe they should run some open trials like the Philadelphia Eagles in that film Invincible.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, May 20, 2020, 19:23:42
where has Wellens popped up tonight Chang


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: tans on Wednesday, May 20, 2020, 19:42:08
Wellens said tonight that contract offers will be in by Friday but the players will be told they can’t sign them yet as we can’t afford to pay them through the summer. He mentioned Grant, Doyle, Anderson and Fryers specifically. Other clubs will be in the same boat so no concerns about them being pinched.

He also said that of the 1500 players out of contract this summer he thinks half will fall out of the game!

I thought Fryers was on a two year deal

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2019/june/zeki-fryers-joins-swindon-town/


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Wednesday, May 20, 2020, 19:43:39
Batch - Under the Cosh podcast, live on YouTube. Search it and scroll to the start and he’s on first. Speaks superbly as always.

Tans - that was my understanding too..


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: flammableBen on Wednesday, May 20, 2020, 19:53:43

He also said that of the 1500 players out of contract this summer he thinks half will fall out of the game!

What's the normal rate?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, May 20, 2020, 20:53:18
Quote from: Dr Pierre Chang
Batch - Under the Cosh podcast, live on YouTube. Search it and scroll to the start and he’s on first. Speaks superbly as always.

Tans - that was my understanding too..
ta


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, May 20, 2020, 20:59:44
Hopefully new contracts on Friday might mean promotion  will be rubber stamped.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Private Fraser on Thursday, May 21, 2020, 09:23:06
Batch - Under the Cosh podcast, live on YouTube. Search it and scroll to the start and he’s on first. Speaks superbly as always.

Tans - that was my understanding too..

Listened to this last night. Apart from the excessive 'ladishness', it was interesting to hear what Wellens had to say about his approach to management in a relaxed atmosphere.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: tans on Friday, May 22, 2020, 21:14:12
Jayesimi gone by the looks of it.

Does say ‘goodbye for now, until we meet again’


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, May 23, 2020, 08:12:02
Jayesimi gone by the looks of it.

Does say ‘goodbye for now, until we meet again’

Which suggests to me that he thinks he's coming back.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: JBZ on Saturday, May 23, 2020, 16:06:48
i suspect Plymouth will try and snap him up after the game at Home Park.  They may be a better proposition if/when lower league football re-starts.


Title: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 25, 2020, 13:36:11
romanski. Bancroft, Henry, Graham released

terms offered to other ooc players


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 25, 2020, 13:38:06
romanski. Bancroft, Henry, Graham released

terms offered to other ooc players
No surprises there.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, May 25, 2020, 13:41:17
No surprises there.
Surprises me! I honestly expected no new contracts to be offered at all. Obviously we don’t know if those are improved or reduced contracts.


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: Nemo on Monday, May 25, 2020, 13:57:46
That means a couple of first year pros getting second contracts right? Haines and Archie Matthews?


Title: Re: The Squad List (Current 2019-20)
Post by: theakston2k on Monday, May 25, 2020, 14:01:52
No great surprise, and he’s been here a while but it was time for Henry to go he was never going to be a league keeper he just doesn’t have the stature. When you see how good a young keeper like Benda is you realise how far off Henry is.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 25, 2020, 15:30:42
Quote from: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey
Quote
No surprises there.
Surprises me! I honestly expected no new contracts to be offered at all. Obviously we don’t know if those are improved or reduced contracts.

someone previously said they were kind of provisional in getting cash in through the doors in one easy or another .. here's the terms but don't sign them yet..

did that come from Wellens interview the other day?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: tans on Monday, May 25, 2020, 19:29:12
Did he say Grant/Doyle/Rose will only be offered contracts depending on wage cap?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: pauld on Monday, May 25, 2020, 20:29:09
Did he say Grant/Doyle/Rose will only be offered contracts depending on wage cap?
Pretty much. There is also apparently some possibility of having to have x number of players under the age of 21 in the squad as well, so that might also impact who can be offered deals. That's from the BBC Wilts interview today btw.

You'd have to assume that if there is a wage cap (and probably even if there isn't), no-one in L1 or L2 is going to be able to offer Doyle and Grant what they're on now, so it may be a case that if they're not going to get the money they'd like they may as well be on less money here where they at least know they like it and suit the style of football as be on worse money at (e.g.) Bradford


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: tans on Monday, May 25, 2020, 20:31:29
Cheers, ill have a listen to it tomorrow.

Someone on twitter also said that Woolery’s agent is a director at Tranmere or something


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: pauld on Monday, May 25, 2020, 20:36:24
Cheers, ill have a listen to it tomorrow.

Someone on twitter also said that Woolery’s agent is a director at Tranmere or something
CEO according to Wellens IIRC. Not checked to see who that is


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Monday, May 25, 2020, 20:44:18
Pretty much. There is also apparently some possibility of having to have x number of players under the age of 21 in the squad as well, so that might also impact who can be offered deals. That's from the BBC Wilts interview today btw.

You'd have to assume that if there is a wage cap (and probably even if there isn't), no-one in L1 or L2 is going to be able to offer Doyle and Grant what they're on now, so it may be a case that if they're not going to get the money they'd like they may as well be on less money here where they at least know they like it and suit the style of football as be on worse money at (e.g.) Bradford

How would a wage cap work with players under contract as you can imagine the likes Sunderland & Ipswich would have some big earners or would the cap be based on the squad rather than individuals


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Panda Paws on Monday, May 25, 2020, 20:47:46
Cheers, ill have a listen to it tomorrow.

Someone on twitter also said that Woolery’s agent is a director at Tranmere or something

Wait surely that's a Standing like conflict?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, May 25, 2020, 21:11:43
Wait surely that's a Standing like conflict?

I thought the same.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, May 26, 2020, 02:05:50
Any wage cap would be phased in over a year so clubs that are way over already have time to adjust. I think Sunderland’s is something like £15m so God knows how they’ll trim that - Grigg will be seeing out his contract for sure now!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Tuesday, May 26, 2020, 02:22:11
I thought similar RE: Woolery agent comment  :hmmm:

Also, was surprised to see Ralph Graham let go. I was certain Wellens said he thought he had something about him. I swear he made it onto the bench a few times iirc?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, May 26, 2020, 07:20:09
Wait surely that's a Standing like conflict?
Looking at the Tranmere website they seem to have a series of "Associate Directors" so maybe it's one of them? i.e. assuming an Associate Director doesn't operate as a normal director but just in some kind of advisory capacity, that might not present the same conflict of interest if there isn't the same element of control/financial benefit. And they don't seem to have a CEO as such so looks like I must have misheard that

https://www.tranmererovers.co.uk/club/tranmere-rovers-staff-directory/


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, May 26, 2020, 07:47:06
This is what I don’t understand. If Standing/Barry have no legal or official role in STFC and are just some random blokes who decided to throw a whole heap of dosh at Power who is in contravention of anything.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, May 26, 2020, 08:12:04
I wonder if Sherwood was a silent investor whilst still at Spurs


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Private Fraser on Tuesday, May 26, 2020, 08:15:06
This is what I don’t understand. If Standing/Barry have no legal or official role in STFC and are just some random blokes who decided to throw a whole heap of dosh at Power who is in contravention of anything.

I guess it'll be down to the application (or not) of the rule about "interest" in more than one club.  Here's Rule 105.  Enjoy!

https://www.efl.com/-more/governance/efl-rules--regulations/sections-10--11---association-and-dual-interests-and-additional-provisions/


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, May 26, 2020, 08:26:12
I guess it'll be down to the application (or not) of the rule about "interest" in more than one club.  Here's Rule 105.  Enjoy!

https://www.efl.com/-more/governance/efl-rules--regulations/sections-10--11---association-and-dual-interests-and-additional-provisions/

You could have highlighted the relevant points :cry:


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, May 26, 2020, 08:42:33
You could have highlighted the relevant points :cry:

There's a lot in there..... my fave is this.

Quote
118.1 Clubs shall hold at least two meetings/fans forums per Season to which its supporters (or representatives) are to be invited in order to discuss significant issues relating to the Club. The framework for these meetings shall be documented in the Club’s customer charter, but are subject to the following minimum criteria:

118.1.1 Clubs must be represented by the Club’s majority owner, board director(s) or other senior executive(s);

118.1.2 where meetings are not open to all supporters wishing to attend, the supporter representatives must be elected, selected or invited in line with basic democratic principles; and

118.1.3 individuals cannot be excluded by the Club without good reason (the Club acting reasonably).

 


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Private Fraser on Tuesday, May 26, 2020, 08:55:12
You could have highlighted the relevant points :cry:

I did  :)

I guess it'll be down to the application (or not) of the rule about "interest" in more than one club.  Here's Rule 105.  Enjoy!

https://www.efl.com/-more/governance/efl-rules--regulations/sections-10--11---association-and-dual-interests-and-additional-provisions/


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, May 26, 2020, 08:58:21
I did  :)


Good man :clap:


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, May 26, 2020, 09:42:52
Cheers, ill have a listen to it tomorrow.

Someone on twitter also said that Woolery’s agent is a director at Tranmere or something

Looking on the interweb Woolery is represented by TRIPLE S SPORTS AND ENTERTAINMENT GROUP LIMITED whose directors seem to actually be Paul Stretford and I assume various relations of Freddy Shepherd from Newcastle as directors?

Same agents as Rooney, McGuire and others.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, May 26, 2020, 13:32:17
So, those 4 youth teamers being released - is that the actual extent of our (un)retained list?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, May 26, 2020, 15:30:41
So, those 4 youth teamers being released - is that the actual extent of our (un)retained list?

Sure is, the only ones Wellens didn't seem sure would re-sign was Woolery & Anderson, when does the Woolery to Tranmere rumour start ?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, May 26, 2020, 15:55:42
Sure is, the only ones Wellens didn't seem sure would re-sign was Woolery & Anderson, when does the Woolery to Tranmere rumour start ?

Been interesting to listen to all the players on the podcasts, they all seem to really rate Anderson.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, May 26, 2020, 16:52:26
Sure is, the only ones Wellens didn't seem sure would re-sign was Woolery & Anderson, when does the Woolery to Tranmere rumour start ?
And also not sure what kind of offer they'd be able to make to Doyle, Rose and Grant either, depending on finances, wage caps, age restrictions. Think there might be a few where conditional offers have been made tbh


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, May 26, 2020, 18:14:37
Been interesting to listen to all the players on the podcasts, they all seem to really rate Anderson.

Technically the best player in the squad.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, May 27, 2020, 08:37:03
Technically the best player in the squad.

Contraversial :) But he probably is. Along with Isgrove.

It a shame he got injured, after a piss poor season last year he really looked good this. Could be Jean-Paul-McGovernitis I suppose.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, May 27, 2020, 11:20:07
DJ's been released by Norwich. Sign him up!

https://www.canaries.co.uk/News/2020/may/nine-academy-players-to-depart-norwich-city/


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 27, 2020, 11:23:27
DJ's been released by Norwich. Sign him up!

https://www.canaries.co.uk/News/2020/may/nine-academy-players-to-depart-norwich-city/
Wow. I would have him back in a heartbeat.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Chunkyhair on Wednesday, May 27, 2020, 11:27:33
Agree


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, May 27, 2020, 11:38:11
Yes please


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, May 27, 2020, 11:48:34
I expect there will be multiple suitors. I'd have him back in a heartbeat.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: brocklesby red on Wednesday, May 27, 2020, 11:50:49
It’s a no brainer, yes please


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, May 27, 2020, 13:10:08
According to the local Norwich rag he knew he was being released before the Jan window!

Cracking player!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, May 27, 2020, 13:11:03
According to the local Norwich rag he knew he was being released before the Jan window!

Cracking player!

He is, just needs to kick on a bit on end product and less dribbling down blind alleys (based upon watching him at Carlisle!)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, May 27, 2020, 13:34:57
I'm fairly indifferent on him. He definitely has his great moment. And a lot of dross moments too.

Like all younger players I suppose. Get consistency in him and he'll be a good lower league player. Add in some improvement and who knows.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: JBZ on Wednesday, May 27, 2020, 13:49:18
Would be good to get DJ back. 


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Panda Paws on Wednesday, May 27, 2020, 13:49:27
He is, just needs to kick on a bit on end product and less dribbling down blind alleys (based upon watching him at Carlisle!)

Probably his worst game of the season. He's insanely talented I reckon.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 27, 2020, 13:56:04
Probably his worst game of the season. He's insanely talented I reckon.
I agree, that was easily his worst game in a Town shirt.

He is genuinely what you would call a "raw talent" yes he runs into dead ends a lot but his close control is as good as I have ever seen, he has pace to burn, he needs focus and learn to pass when a pass is a better option that beating his man.

He would be an unbelievable signing in L1 IMO, he will only get better with good coaching and he knows the club and enjoyed his time with us, he liked Wellens and Wellens liked him, if no Champiosnhip club comes in for him then its an absolute no brainer for his career.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, May 27, 2020, 13:58:45
I'm fairly indifferent on him. He definitely has his great moment. And a lot of dross moments too.

Like all younger players I suppose. Get consistency in him and he'll be a good lower league player. Add in some improvement and who knows.

I think with 'flair' players like DJ and Keshi Anderson (obviously to a lesser extent) you get much less consistency but more liklehood of the ability to do something matchwinning, whereas you have someone like Antony Grant who does the more simpler things on the football field and therefore appears to show much more consistency.

I think you need to have a good mix of these types of players. A DJ off the bench for example is a frightening prospect for tiring defenders as they have no idea what he is likely to do, he could weave a piece of magic to win the game, or he could repeatedly dribble the ball off the pitch or trip over his feet. That's the 'beauty' of these players!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Super Hans on Wednesday, May 27, 2020, 13:59:38
Good player and always poses a goal threat. No brainer if he'd want to come back here.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Wednesday, May 27, 2020, 15:24:47
Would be happy if the DJ going back was a formality (to be released) and he comes back to us, as ours. I think Flashheart said it '...which suggests he could come back.' or to similar wording.

Great squad player to have, somewhat of a luxury and still developing as a player. I think Wellens can get even more out of him and I think DJ knows that too. As PV says, unless a championship club wants him, Town would be an absolute banker - you'd think. Could have a potentially valuable asset on our hands and what with Power's Norwich links, I'm sure he's noted the potential future price of DJ.

We'll see. Just need the interview from Wellens saying something like '...it's really hard you know. I don't think we'll be able to get him. There are a lot of big clubs interested in him...' then we'll know we have definitely got him  :D


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, May 30, 2020, 08:45:04
Be this him training yesterday

https://mobile.twitter.com/R_Placid/status/1266127346232410112


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, May 30, 2020, 08:50:16
Be this him training yesterday

https://mobile.twitter.com/R_Placid/status/1266127346232410112
Well there is someone wearing number 27 his old squad number that does look like him although you can't quite see clearly, but could well be him yes.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, May 30, 2020, 09:03:21
Surprised we’re training now. Any idea where it is?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, May 30, 2020, 09:29:50
It'll be individual training, not team.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, May 30, 2020, 10:08:52
I agree, that was easily his worst game in a Town shirt.

He is genuinely what you would call a "raw talent" yes he runs into dead ends a lot but his close control is as good as I have ever seen, he has pace to burn, he needs focus and learn to pass when a pass is a better option that beating his man.

He would be an unbelievable signing in L1 IMO, he will only get better with good coaching and he knows the club and enjoyed his time with us, he liked Wellens and Wellens liked him, if no Champiosnhip club comes in for him then its an absolute no brainer for his career.

Done ok at Plymouth!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: pauld on Saturday, May 30, 2020, 11:21:03
It'll be individual training, not team.

It looks very much like small group/individual training from the shots. Not great at maintaining physical distancing either, whereas I think a pro club would be better at that. Plus our squad are all furloughed at the moment so they can't train as a squad.

FWIW, the lad who's video it is is Reece Placid, currently at Basildon.
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/reece-placid/profil/spieler/460266



Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: donkey on Saturday, May 30, 2020, 11:27:40
It looks very much like small group/individual training from the shots. Not great at maintaining physical distancing either, whereas I think a pro club would be better at that. Plus our squad are all furloughed at the moment so they can't train as a squad.

FWIW, the lad who's video it is is Reece Placid, currently at Basildon.
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/reece-placid/profil/spieler/460266



Let's hope that calms things down.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: tans on Saturday, May 30, 2020, 14:28:35
Just doing private training with a mate aint he


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: ronnie21 on Saturday, May 30, 2020, 19:14:26
Done ok at Plymouth!
They couldn't handle him could they?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, May 30, 2020, 20:31:00
They couldn't handle him could they?

Eaxctly and the way he took his goal reminded me of Julian Joachim when he played for Leicester


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: pauld on Monday, June 1, 2020, 09:29:31
Yesterday was the final day of the season-long loans. Fond farewell to Jerry Yates, Reg, DJ, Benda and the Admiral

https://twitter.com/Official_STFC/status/1267350167621193730


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, June 1, 2020, 10:07:19
I’d happily have them all back.

Looks likely, though, that a salary cap could thwart that for any we may have hoped to sign on a perm.

Anyway, none are available, officially, until July 1.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, June 1, 2020, 10:21:02
Richie Wellens has previously bemoaned his struggle to convince players to drop to L2 on loan. I have faith that he will be able to do even better in L1.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, June 1, 2020, 10:23:31
The salary cap could also work in our favout. It could mean that bigger teams in L1 won't be able to out-pay us.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, June 1, 2020, 10:26:41
But how would a £3m salary cap in L1 work for the likes of Sunderland whose budgie this season was £15m+?

If any cap is to be aligned with income then we already have that in place with the, I think, no more than 60% of turnover to be spent on wages rule.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, June 1, 2020, 10:28:26
I don't know, and I don't agree with a flat cap.

If there is to be a flat cap, however, then...


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, June 1, 2020, 10:32:37
I don't know, and I don't agree with a flat cap.

If there is to be a flat cap, however, then...
Choose this one - £99



Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: tans on Friday, June 5, 2020, 10:36:46
3 youths offered deals

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2020/june/pro-deals-given-to-three-scholars/


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, June 5, 2020, 10:41:28
3 youths offered deals

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2020/june/pro-deals-given-to-three-scholars/
Good to see we hoovered 2 of them up from where they were born - Reading!

Must say I’m still amazed at how contracts are being awarded at this time - and not just for those 3 youths. Fills me with a bit of optimism we may still be around when the dust does settle!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, June 5, 2020, 10:43:15
Doing it on the cheap. 100% a team full of youth players next season.

FACT


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, June 5, 2020, 10:44:53
Tbh, I’d settle for that at the moment!

Having a club is more important.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Power to people on Friday, June 5, 2020, 11:08:57
Its sad that over recent years none of the youths taken on have made it and have been released, lets hope these 3 have got something to offer.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, June 5, 2020, 11:13:09
We'll probably have to build a team around them given the current finances in football.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: pauld on Friday, June 5, 2020, 11:45:45
We'll probably have to build a team around them given the current finances in football.
All joking aside, if one of the impacts of the financial crisis which will surely follow the COVID crisis is that football clubs go back to making more use of young local talent, that might not be one of the worst outcomes.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: suttonred on Friday, June 5, 2020, 12:29:54
3 youths offered deals

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2020/june/pro-deals-given-to-three-scholars/

The guy in the middle photo is Jerry Yates doppelganger


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, June 5, 2020, 12:51:19
From Nixon - not exactly news, but

‘Swindon. Tying up a new deal for Jordan Lyden. Couple of years.’


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, June 5, 2020, 13:10:56
All joking aside, if one of the impacts of the financial crisis which will surely follow the COVID crisis is that football clubs go back to making more use of young local talent, that might not be one of the worst outcomes.

It wasn't necessarily a joking comment. As you say, given the financial crisis we may well he singing 'one of our own' more often - probably at a computer screen via ifollow in the short term!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Private Fraser on Friday, June 12, 2020, 12:00:55
Tyler Reid - I thought he was on a contract until 2021 anyway....

https://twitter.com/Official_STFC/status/1271396835207176193?s=20



Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, June 12, 2020, 12:35:07
Tyler Reid - I thought he was on a contract until 2021 anyway....

https://twitter.com/Official_STFC/status/1271396835207176193?s=20
Yeah so did I.

Not quite sure you could call making 6 appearances as a successful loan spell though.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Quagmire on Friday, June 12, 2020, 12:42:02
I don’t think that’s a contract announcement is it? My guess is they’re just going to go through the players that have contributed this season?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, June 12, 2020, 12:43:47
I don’t think that’s a contract announcement is it? My guess is they’re just going to go through the players that have contributed this season?

They are t'was the BFG yesterday.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Berniman on Friday, June 12, 2020, 12:46:08
It says our first signing 19/20 - so it's just referencing that he was our first signing last year, has progressed this season, had a loan spell and will be back next year.  As Quag says, probably going to go through the current squad..


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, June 14, 2020, 09:13:35
Blackpool after REG


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: tans on Sunday, June 14, 2020, 09:19:08
What is with Blackpool and our players, ex players and managers


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, June 14, 2020, 09:21:18
Have they come into money since they got rid of Oyston?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, June 14, 2020, 09:35:50
Have they come into money since they got rid of Oyston?
Apparently not, they are owned by Simon Sadler, a finacier, who is not much above Powers level of wealth.

His company Segantii look after a fund in excess of $3.3 billion, but that is not his personal wealth.

He completed his first year in charge yesterday at Blackpool.

https://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/sport/football/blackpool-fc/blackpool-owner-simon-sadler-completes-his-first-year-charge-club-2883011



Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, June 16, 2020, 06:45:17
I'm one of the lucky ones to be offered a contract'

Danny Rose, 32, midfielder for Swindon, finished first in League Two

Swindon midfielder Danny Rose
The EFL's decision to decide finishing positions by points-per-game means Rose has just won his third League Two title after previous successes with Northampton Town and Portsmouth. He began his career at Manchester United and has played 368 professional games for eight clubs, joining Swindon in January 2019
I was one of the lucky ones - I was told a while ago that I would be offered a new contract when my current deal finishes at the end of June, so that put my mind at rest a little bit.

Now the club know for sure what division we will be in next season - having been promoted to League One - they will be able to sort out their budget and open negotiations with the players they want to keep.

For the people without a contract offer, I think there will be a scramble going on when there is a date announced for the new season. I would imagine there will be lots more players than normal going on trial at clubs when pre-season starts.

I guess most of the players at Swindon at the moment are in a reasonably healthy position because we have had a successful season, so usually those players are in demand.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, June 16, 2020, 08:53:42
Danny Rose must be one of our must unfortunate players.

Always does a good job when he plays, often a great job, scored a brilliant goal in one of his last full appearances yet with Grant and Doughty ahead of him with DJ and Anderson vying for the attacking roles in midfield he is at best a bit part player.

Great fill in and squad member who when he gets a chance never plays badly, and I am pleased he is under contract for another season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Bogus Dave on Tuesday, June 16, 2020, 09:46:52
I’ll be honest from a playing standpoint I wouldn’t have been to upset had he left, but he’s clearly a big dressing room presence (never plays but is stand in captain when he does) and has good level of experience


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, June 16, 2020, 09:59:48
He's clearly very important to the team as a group. The way his fellow players speak so highly of him is a far greater compliment than anything we might say on here. Glad to see he's staying


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, June 16, 2020, 11:05:04
Have we actually had a definitive retained list? I know we’ve released 4 youngsters, but has everyone else who happens to be OOC been offered a new deal?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, June 16, 2020, 11:38:12
Have we actually had a definitive retained list?
Don't think so. Probably difficult because there's a bunch of players that according to the interviews Wellens has done we seem to have made provisional/conditional offers to?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, June 16, 2020, 12:12:31
I understood it that all of the remaining OOC players had been offered new deals, or did I make that up?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, June 16, 2020, 12:18:48
I understood it that all of the remaining OOC players had been offered new deals, or did I make that up?

With the exeption of Doyle*, Grant* and I thought Rose - but  obviously not.

* until we work out WTF our finances are


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, June 16, 2020, 15:34:39
I understood it that all of the remaining OOC players had been offered new deals, or did I make that up?
No I think you're right but with some of them it's a conditional/provisional offer (or that's my reading of what Wellens has said in interviews - NB I am often wrong!)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, June 16, 2020, 15:55:55
No I think you're right but with some of them it's a conditional/provisional offer (or that's my reading of what Wellens has said in interviews - NB I am often wrong!)

I imagine a lot will depend on what conditions were attached to the 'conditional offers' if it was what division we were in, hopefully that's sorted now, I imagine a new sticking point is when will the season start which I imagine will be a clause in any offer the players receive either from ere of elsewhere so at least possibly levels the playing field a bit.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Power to people on Friday, June 19, 2020, 12:34:13
I imagine a lot will depend on what conditions were attached to the 'conditional offers' if it was what division we were in, hopefully that's sorted now, I imagine a new sticking point is when will the season start which I imagine will be a clause in any offer the players receive either from ere of elsewhere so at least possibly levels the playing field a bit.

Think the other reason they was waiting was due to it being suggested there would be a wage cap in L1 & L2 but that seems to have gone quiet, equally it seems to have gone quiet about helping out clubs financially, although they did advance payments that are due in the summer which will cause problems with clubs later on you expect when that dries up early.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Red Frog on Friday, June 19, 2020, 12:46:09
What's happened with Iandolo? Wasn't he OOC this summer? Is he close to fitness again? Would have thought he might not get a new offer from us.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, June 19, 2020, 13:06:07
What's happened with Iandolo? Wasn't he OOC this summer? Is he close to fitness again? Would have thought he might not get a new offer from us.

Apparently, everyone's been offered terms apart from the kids/fringe players RW spoke about a few weeks ago.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, June 23, 2020, 13:51:49
Released and retained list

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2020/june/2020-released--retained-list/

I think Rose is the only minor surprise there, and didn't Lyden suggest on the LSPod that it was all sorted in his case?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: tans on Tuesday, June 23, 2020, 14:02:26
Interesting that discussions are ongoing with Rose but not have been offered a deal yet


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, June 23, 2020, 14:04:38
Surprised and delighted we’ve offered all those new contracts. I’d imagine those will probably be weighing up their options for a while now. Can’t see them all accepting.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, June 23, 2020, 14:08:28
Released and retained list

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2020/june/2020-released--retained-list/

I think Rose is the only minor surprise there, and didn't Lyden suggest on the LSPod that it was all sorted in his case?
Yes but doesn't mean it's signed yet, could be verbally agreed or even still some minor points to iron out prior to signing


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, June 23, 2020, 14:14:36
We're bound to lose one or two. But considering recruitment so far, I'm confient we'll replace them. Or even upgrade them.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, June 23, 2020, 14:17:24
We're bound to lose one or two. But considering recruitment so far, I'm confient we'll replace them. Or even upgrade them.
Fucking hell, not sure the PFA will be happy about that

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Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, June 23, 2020, 14:43:46
It's going to be an absolute free for all this summer - I imagine players will be stuck between taking a gamble that loads of clubs will be looking vs. just thinking themselves thankful someone has offered a contract.  I see the Premier League is going to be fun in a week with players going out of contract and refusing to sign or play!  I predict carnage, which means a few Cybermen will come in handy.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, June 23, 2020, 14:47:14
I see the Premier League is going to be fun in a week with players going out of contract and refusing to sign or play! 
Already causing issues - Burnley were without 5 players last night as the board have prevaricated on offering them new deals so they're now reluctant to sign the 1 month extension or even play before then apparently without furrther assurances about their future beyond that.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, June 24, 2020, 06:08:07
Can’t really do much until clubs know whether a salary cap is going to be introduced or not. When is this likely to be decided upon?

Just found this. Would have thought a max of £2400pw for a player in L1 wouldn’t see many, if any, of our OOC players getting any better elsewhere.

https://trendswide.com/pfa-warns-efl-players-against-taking-pay-cut-ahead-of-proposed-introduction-of-salary-cap/


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, June 24, 2020, 08:45:42
Can’t really do much until clubs know whether a salary cap is going to be introduced or not. When is this likely to be decided upon?

Just found this. Would have thought a max of £2400pw for a player in L1 wouldn’t see many, if any, of our OOC players getting any better elsewhere.

https://trendswide.com/pfa-warns-efl-players-against-taking-pay-cut-ahead-of-proposed-introduction-of-salary-cap/

As the salary cap has as yet not been introduced I am not sure how it can have effect on what players sign at the moment, its going to be hard to apply retrospectively to contracts signed before it came into effect?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Wednesday, June 24, 2020, 09:04:01
Would have thought a cap would be introduced gradually over 3/4 years, wouldn't it? Current contracts wouldn't be affected but future ones would have to fall in line.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, June 24, 2020, 09:11:13
Yeah, they'd surely phase it in and existing contracts will be honored as they are? It'd be a righl old legal kerfuffle otherwise.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, June 24, 2020, 09:26:03
Can’t really do much until clubs know whether a salary cap is going to be introduced or not. When is this likely to be decided upon?

Just found this. Would have thought a max of £2400pw for a player in L1 wouldn’t see many, if any, of our OOC players getting any better elsewhere.
It's not a maximum per player, it's an average. What they've done is taken the proposed £2.5m per squad and divided it by average squad size to come up with £2,400 pw as an average maximum. There's no hard limit per player, at least not in the proposals floating around currently


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, June 24, 2020, 09:56:20
It's not a maximum per player, it's an average. What they've done is taken the proposed £2.5m per squad and divided it by average squad size to come up with £2,400 pw as an average maximum. There's no hard limit per player, at least not in the proposals floating around currently
Absolutely, some players will earn far more than others, its a full squad wage budget cap not an individual player wage maximum.

So one player could be on £15k pw as long as the rest of the squad are on peanuts.

I think they said the cap ignores any players wages who are under the age of 21 too?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, June 24, 2020, 11:37:49
Not good for squad unity, though - 1 or 2 players taking up a large chunk of the cap.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: JBZ on Wednesday, June 24, 2020, 12:06:14
But there are often instances where one or more players are on a lot more than the others. Salaries vary at any place of work.

Magera is an example from a few years ago. 

I recently listened to one of the Ferry podcasts with Caddis who mentioned that Zigic was on £65k p/w at Birmingham.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: NotHarryAgombar on Wednesday, June 24, 2020, 12:35:43
If the very high earner is signed before the squad is complete then it may be tricky to get the later signings to agree if the amount left available within the cap is less than they want or are offered by other clubs.
Spending a huge amount on one player could also impact on squad size / depth, leaving you exposed in the case of injury / suspensions happening at once.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, June 24, 2020, 16:53:48
If the very high earner is signed before the squad is complete then it may be tricky to get the later signings to agree if the amount left available within the cap is less than they want or are offered by other clubs.
Spending a huge amount on one player could also impact on squad size / depth, leaving you exposed in the case of injury / suspensions happening at once.
Which is just the same as working to a strict budget - once you've spent it, you've spent it. If it imposes some financial discipline on lower league clubs instead of allowing *current* owners/chief execs to gamble club's futures by throwing a load of shit at the wall and seeing what sticks, then great.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Chunkyhair on Thursday, June 25, 2020, 13:20:08
Coming back to the squad, even though football is a different kettle of fish to a lot of other businesses, if I was one of those players offered terms and they were half reasonable I would take them in a heart beat.  In the current climate they may regret holding out for "big pay days" or "realizing their worth" if that is what they maybe doing.  Pretty much all those on the list seemed to have enjoyed their time with us, what's not to like.

Better this than risk being OOC in a couple of months, but then I am a cautious person.

Then of course there is the question of what terms have been offered. Might be a case of crossing T's and dotting I's, though I would hope we haven't taken the piss with what we have offered...

...we wouldn't do that would we?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, June 25, 2020, 15:01:14
Honestly can’t see us paying a fee for a player - and rightly so. That’s Yates out the picture.

We’ll be in for DJ along with a host of other clubs. Hopefully, last season would put us at the head of the queue.

There are loads of good OOC players we can sign with no fee involved and judging by last season’s recruitment we know what we’re doing.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Chunkyhair on Thursday, June 25, 2020, 15:23:57
Totally agree on Yates - no sense in paying a fee.  More interested in seeing Baudry, Grant, etc commit.  We have got a very good L1 squad in there if we get some of those signatures, and Wellens also can spot a good OOC player as we know...


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: theakston2k on Thursday, June 25, 2020, 20:27:35
Will be interesting to see who does extend and if someone like DJ joins on a perm. Wellens seems to have the the same ‘matey’ dressing room that Williams tried to create that players enjoy and want to be part of but at the same time has an air of authority and knows what he’s doing unlike Williams. If the majority are still here then i think we will have a very good season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: DiV on Friday, June 26, 2020, 07:29:45
Totally agree on Yates - no sense in paying a fee.  More interested in seeing Baudry, Grant, etc commit.  We have got a very good L1 squad in there if we get some of those signatures, and Wellens also can spot a good OOC player as we know...

If we pay a fee for Yates we’d make that back and then some in a couple of seasons.

Would be a sound investment


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Power to people on Friday, June 26, 2020, 12:49:02
If we pay a fee for Yates we’d make that back and then some in a couple of seasons.

Would be a sound investment

Sadly, not sure we would be a in a position to pay a fee with ongoing court case, who would supply the money ?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: JBZ on Friday, June 26, 2020, 12:51:02
The local community?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: tans on Friday, June 26, 2020, 13:06:12
Sadly, not sure we would be a in a position to pay a fee with ongoing court case, who would supply the money ?

Surely the club wouldnt pay for the court case, thats between the persons liable etc


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, June 26, 2020, 13:21:55
Surely the club wouldnt pay for the court case, thats between the persons liable etc

I think the point was that the persons being liable are, on both sides, the persons who would probably have to stump up the cash to buy a player.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: JBZ on Friday, June 26, 2020, 13:38:24
Surely the club wouldnt pay for the court case, thats between the persons liable etc

The parties to the proceedings will be the subject of any costs orders.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Friday, June 26, 2020, 16:58:36
Agree with DV Canio. Good investment.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 12:48:18
The official twitter page has made a cryptic tweet that might mean Grant has signed. Or it might not.



Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 12:55:44
Got to love some of the 'special' people on twitter, moaning about the lack of signings as though we are two days away from the season beginning amongst other things


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 14:53:18
The official twitter page has made a cryptic tweet that might mean Grant has signed. Or it might not.


42 = Grant’s shirt number. So, yes. Maybe. Hopefully.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 14:54:57
I couldn’t really think of any other reason why they would have used that number in that tweet.

I reckon he’s going to sign a contract which would be a fantastic sign of intention for next season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 16:18:09
42 = Grant’s shirt number. So, yes. Maybe. Hopefully.
Or we're signing Zaphod Beeblebrox?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 16:30:48
Or we're signing Zaphod Beeblebrox?
Is he any good?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 16:34:35
Is he any good?
Pretty good with his (x2) head.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 17:27:25
Grant could very well be the answer to the Ultimate Question of life, the Universe, and Everything


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: donkey on Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 18:23:20
Grant could very well be the answer to the Ultimate Question of life, the Universe, and Everything

Bloody great player.  Glad he got player of the year.  Hope he had the chance to get it again next year.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 18:27:22
I think its the fact that Grant got player of the year - That seemed to be on the Adver site very briefly and then taken down. I assume that it will be back up at some point with a fanfare!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 18:31:12
I think its the fact that Grant got player of the year - That seemed to be on the Adver site very briefly and then taken down. I assume that it will be back up at some point with a fanfare!
No its never been away mate, I saw it there yesterday and earlier.

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/18549817.swindon-town-fans-favourite-anthony-grant-named-adver-player-year-2019-20/


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 19:03:08
Grant could very well be the answer to the Ultimate Question of life, the Universe, and Everything

Quite. As long as they don't just ask him to pick up a piece of paper. I don't think he'll find job satisfaction in that.

 :pint:


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, July 2, 2020, 05:30:29
No its never been away mate, I saw it there yesterday and earlier.

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/18549817.swindon-town-fans-favourite-anthony-grant-named-adver-player-year-2019-20/
Ah! There was me looking under the Sport, Swindon Town section of the site - Silly me!  :headhurts:


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: pauld on Thursday, July 2, 2020, 09:56:59
Ah! There was me looking under the Sport, Swindon Town section of the site - Silly me!  :headhurts:
They've laid off all the sports reporters IIRC so that may be why it's not there


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, July 3, 2020, 11:42:33
I reckon Doyle could be off today.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, July 3, 2020, 11:45:17
I reckon Doyle could be off today.
Depending on wage cap I can see Salford signing him.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: tans on Friday, July 3, 2020, 11:51:54
How do Salford get away with it?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: pauld on Friday, July 3, 2020, 12:00:18
I reckon Doyle could be off today.
Why today particularly?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, July 3, 2020, 12:02:46
See above


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, July 3, 2020, 12:05:44
Won't be happy to see GP go, but I think he'd be easier to replace than Grant.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, July 3, 2020, 12:08:09
Wasn’t the same player after returning in January and, tbh, we can’t afford a £5k pw player during this period. Him and Keshi would reduce the wages considerably.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: pauld on Friday, July 3, 2020, 12:08:58
See above
Ah, fair enough. I thought perhaps you were going off something separate which might have added credence to it rather than just a reiteration of a single source


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Power to people on Friday, July 3, 2020, 12:12:01
It may depend if Wellens would be able to get near to the wages he's being offered elsewhere, although he has said previously he does not move for the money he wants 1st team football, and having been 'burned' at his previous club by being left on the bench he may be more reluctant to leave here if Wellens can offer him a decent wage as he knows he will likely play and in a playing style that suits him.




Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Costanza on Friday, July 3, 2020, 12:15:37
Fans will be experience various levels of hysteria over departing players until the new guys come in. Same every summer.

I've said it before but from a human level it's perfectly understandable for Doyle to leave for a team in the North West if the money is better than what we can offer and, from a footballing aspect, he did exactly what we desperately needed him to do and that was to get us promoted.

It's not much of an embargo if you can bring in players with the wage demands of Eoin Doyle though (I know it's a transfer embargo, not a wages one per se).


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, July 3, 2020, 12:19:22
It may depend if Wellens would be able to get near to the wages he's being offered elsewhere, although he has said previously he does not move for the money he wants 1st team football, and having been 'burned' at his previous club by being left on the bench he may be more reluctant to leave here if Wellens can offer him a decent wage as he knows he will likely play and in a playing style that suits him.
He’s stated quite openly that he’s after a last big pay day before retiring.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: JBZ on Friday, July 3, 2020, 12:21:30
I am sure he will take the best financial offer. I don't think that he can be criticised for that.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Riddick on Friday, July 3, 2020, 12:23:20
Won't be happy to see GP go, but I think he'd be easier to replace than Grant.

The exact opposite IMO. Scoring goals is the hardest thing in the game. Sure Grant is a good player and i get why everyone loves his no-nonsense attitude but he is much easier to replace than Doyle.

Also i would say they are both 32/33? So investing heavily in players at the tail end of their careers can be risky. Richards was good the end of one season and awful the next. Decline at that age can come quick. Especially in Grants case where your game is built on physicality.

Would like to keep both but don't mind replacing either with younger models.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, July 3, 2020, 12:26:00
Scoring goals is the hardest thing in the game.

Yet Yates had a similar scoring ratio when played in Doyle's position...


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, July 3, 2020, 12:26:54
It's not much of an embargo if you can bring in players with the wage demands of Eoin Doyle though (I know it's a transfer embargo, not a wages one per se).
It seems to be an embargo in name alone not in substance.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, July 3, 2020, 12:29:19
I am sure he will take the best financial offer. I don't think that he can be criticised for that.
I don't think anybody (on here certainly) is being critical of him in not signing for us, if indeed he doesn't.

I have only seen posts saying good luck to him but that hes not worth breaking the wage structure to sign.

On Twitter and FB that may be a different story, but on here, I think we all appreciate what he did for the club and good luck wherever his future lies be it at Town or elsewhere.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: tans on Friday, July 3, 2020, 12:29:58
‪Keshi Anderson highest paid player last season 👀‬

Offer to Rotherham made for Yates, 2nd contract offer made to Doyle

Woolery and Grant close to signing

From Wellens on Talk of the Town just posted on twitter

Donohue being offered a deal - last chance saloon


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, July 3, 2020, 12:32:21
‪Keshi Anderson highest paid player last season 👀‬

Offer to Rotherham made for Yates, 2nd contract offer made to Doyle

Woolery and Grant close to signing

From Wellens on Talk of the Town just posted on twitter

Donohue being offered a deal - last chance saloon
All sounds positive and suggests financially we are ok relatively speaking. Donohue was the best left back we’d had for years in the few games we played so would be happy with that.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Costanza on Friday, July 3, 2020, 12:33:46
‪Keshi Anderson highest paid player last season 👀‬

Offer to Rotherham made for Yates, 2nd contract offer made to Doyle

Woolery and Grant close to signing

From Wellens on Talk of the Town just posted on twitter

Donohue being offered a deal - last chance saloon

Sounds like Wellens' tooth situation is still causing him trouble... I know that feeling.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, July 3, 2020, 12:37:33
Well, that all sounds promising. Just one thing - what about Lyden.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Costanza on Friday, July 3, 2020, 12:38:24
Well, that all sounds promising. Just one thing - what about Lyden.

Lyden had committed previously nothing new beyond that.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: tans on Friday, July 3, 2020, 12:39:09
He basically said Anderson wasnt worth what he was on, and what he was wanting this season. Due to injuries, appearances and goals scored.

He’s got a point. Definitely no love lost there!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, July 3, 2020, 12:40:29
He basically said Anderson wasnt worth what he was on, and what he was wanting this season. Due to injuries, appearances and goals scored.

He’s got a point. Definitely no love lost there!
I seem to remember he used to lie about injuries as well saying he was fine etc and then do them more damage, he was a bit of liability on that front


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: JBZ on Friday, July 3, 2020, 12:40:44
I don't think anybody (on here certainly) is being critical of him in not signing for us, if indeed he doesn't.

I have only seen posts saying good luck to him but that hes not worth breaking the wage structure to sign.

On Twitter and FB that may be a different story, but on here, I think we all appreciate what he did for the club and good luck wherever his future lies be it at Town or elsewhere.

This was not a specific reference to this forum.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: hefty toe on Friday, July 3, 2020, 12:48:53
Surprised to hear that Anderson was the highest paid player. I assume that must have been at the start of the season before the Doyle transfer. Doyle was reportedly on £5k a week; Anderson can't have been on more than that surely? Obviously would be sad to see Doyle go but I don't think we'll be able to meet his wage demands. Given the likelihood of prolonged uncertainty re playing in front of crowds, the club should be budgeting on a very conservative basis. If that means losing players so be it.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, July 3, 2020, 12:58:24
If we're bidding for Yates, then we can't be overly concerned about finances.

Reassuring.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, July 3, 2020, 12:59:34
All sounds positive and suggests financially we are ok relatively speaking. Donohue was the best left back we’d had for years in the few games we played so would be happy with that.
I agree, Donohue was excellent int he handful of games he played, is easily up to standard in L1 too.

IMO all we need, if the players agree for next season is another 2 strikers (depending on Yates/Doyle signing) if 1 or 2 sign then that may just be 1 addition.

I would like to see DJ sign as he has that "little extra" at times, hes raw but possesses huge amount of ball control and skill.

I want a left back, not so essential if Donohue signs.

I want 1 more flair player in midfield to replace Anderson, DJ may do that if he comes.

Sign a suitable goalkeeper, Benda if he becomes available obviously but barring that any decent keeper would be good, however few and far between they are in reality.

I would be happy for REG to come in on loan for the season and we saw little of Muskwe so unable to call that one.

Not many additions, pretty much no extra signings if all of last season players sign again but just replace the ones that have gone.

The nucleus of this side I think is very capable ot challenging for the play offs and with the right couple of signings could even do better, there is no team in L1 that frightens me.

We have a great side and play good football and all know each other and their reletice strengths on the pitch, that bodes very well for the future. Even if we consolidate this coming season and try and press on the next year.

I have watched a few L1 matches including Ipswich, Oxford, Pompey, Wycombe, Coventry, Sunderland, Rovers, MK and Accrington and I saw nothing that was any better in quality than we have. Barring the odd loan player like Woodburn and maybe the Posh striker Toney who is off anyway in the summer.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: hefty toe on Friday, July 3, 2020, 13:03:49
If we're bidding for Yates, then we can't be overly concerned about finances.

Reassuring.

Yes, someone is presumably providing the bunce. I'd love to know who it actually is.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Friday, July 3, 2020, 13:15:38
Good summing up PV. I'll stick my neck out now and predict that Donohue will be be next season's POTY... ;)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, July 3, 2020, 13:27:07
Good summing up PV. I'll stick my neck out now and predict that Donohue will be be next season's POTY... ;)
He has good quality in his left foot, he can tackle and can hit a good corner and free kick, the only thing may be keeping him on the pitch for 90 mins with his hot headedness.

I think he would be a great signing, impressed me in every game he played. As for POTY...who knows! I never thought Grant would get it this year!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Friday, July 3, 2020, 13:31:42
On a slightly different note, any idea when the players are (provisionally) due back for pre-season?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, July 3, 2020, 13:38:12
On a slightly different note, any idea when the players are (provisionally) due back for pre-season?
I haven't heard for certain but I know many Scottish teams went back today, so unlikely to be too much longer before they go back.

Saying that the National play offs don't even finish until August 2nd! not much time for clubs and players to prepare for league football.



Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: tans on Friday, July 3, 2020, 13:38:56
Not sure but Wellens said the EFL need to get their arse in gear regarding salary caps, says its not fair to wait till start of august if the efl plan a restart on 29th august as it doesnt give anyone time to prepare etc


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, July 3, 2020, 13:40:11
Not sure but Wellens said the EFL need to get their arse in gear regarding salary caps, says its not fair to wait till start of august if the efl plan a restart on 29th august as it doesnt give anyone time to prepare etc
And hes right, nobody can prepare for next season with such a short timescale, especially if the caps are introduced in full with no transition period, unless the new season wont be starting until October.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, July 3, 2020, 14:01:22

I've said it before but from a human level it's perfectly understandable for Doyle to leave for a team in the North West if the money is better than what the same as we can offer and, from a footballing aspect, he did exactly what we desperately needed him to do and that was to get us promoted.


Corrected for you.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: pauld on Friday, July 3, 2020, 14:01:58
Not sure but Wellens said the EFL need to get their arse in gear regarding salary caps, says its not fair to wait till start of august if the efl plan a restart on 29th august as it doesnt give anyone time to prepare etc
29th August always looked unrealistic, it's tight even now for Sept 12th, surely?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, July 3, 2020, 14:04:41

Donohue being offered a deal - last chance saloon

Hope he is not in there at 6am tomorrow.

Has he actually ben sentenced yet, it was due during lockdown after he pleaded guilty??


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Friday, July 3, 2020, 14:23:59
I haven't heard for certain but I know many Scottish teams went back today, so unlikely to be too much longer before they go back.

Saying that the National play offs don't even finish until August 2nd! not much time for clubs and players to prepare for league football.



For some reason, I thought the player were supposed to back at the club (perhaps not for pre-season but for something else) at the end of this week


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, July 3, 2020, 14:26:40
For some reason, I thought the player were supposed to back at the club (perhaps not for pre-season but for something else) at the end of this week
I understand there are a few players at the club today but not by any means all of them.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, July 3, 2020, 14:28:32
Hope he is not in there at 6am tomorrow.

Has he actually ben sentenced yet, it was due during lockdown after he pleaded guilty??
I cannot find anything about his case, it was due in Leicester Crown Court on Mar 17th a week BEFORE the start of lockdown.

I can find nothing online confirming it even took place.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, July 3, 2020, 14:44:55
I cannot find anything about his case, it was due in Leicester Crown Court on Mar 17th a week BEFORE the start of lockdown.

I can find nothing online confirming it even took place.

It was on 13th March and it seems to have at least started, its case number U20200022


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, July 3, 2020, 14:52:24
It was on 13th March and it seems to have at least started, its case number U20200022
Yeah the date was reported wrongly on the Mansfield forum.

All I can find is this....

(https://i.postimg.cc/XYkPRyXf/Untitled.png)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, July 3, 2020, 14:59:02
I'm sure he'd been put down for a while and has already done his time. Although it might just be my synapsis misfiring.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, July 3, 2020, 15:01:11
I'm sure he'd been put down for a while and has already done his time. Although it might just be my synapsis misfiring.
Yes, you would think that hes pleased guilty so there would be no more trial on that date just serving of any sentence/punishment and that any custodial sentence would have been handed out at the time and served in full by now.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, July 3, 2020, 15:04:11
Yes, you would think that hes pleased guilty so there would be no more trial on that date just serving of any sentence/punishment and that any custodial sentence would have been handed out at the time and served in full by now.

Just peculiar nothing has been reported, footballer getting convicted is normally something the media jizz themselves about.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, July 3, 2020, 15:08:57
Indeed. Not the usual sensationalism in the press when there is anyone even remotely famous, especially footballers.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, July 3, 2020, 15:18:51
What I will say is he was a model pro on the pitch, I don't remember any signs of hot-headedness or indiscipline.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, July 3, 2020, 15:28:40
What I will say is he was a model pro on the pitch, I don't remember any signs of hot-headedness or indiscipline.
Not with us he never, but he does have a record for it with his previous clubs. I couldnt fault his professional approach while with Swindon.

https://www.echo-news.co.uk/sport/15227158.blues-boss-brown-i-wasnt-to-blame-for-donohues-red-card/

https://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/sport/football/video-nasty-walsall-celebrations-spark-melee-and-donohue-red-card-458636

https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/football/pompey-appeal-donohue-red-card-1073953

https://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk/news/2017/october/highlights-doncaster-2-pompey-1/

He was also sent off for Chesterfield too.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Costanza on Friday, July 3, 2020, 15:33:53
Dion was pretty good during his month at Town.

As long as Zeki is sticking around...


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: tans on Friday, July 3, 2020, 15:38:07
I thought fryers was under contract as they had an option for this season but they entered talks to extend it further?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: tans on Friday, July 3, 2020, 15:43:45
Lyden deal confirmed

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2020/july/lyden-signs-new-two-year-deal/


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, July 3, 2020, 15:46:16
Good news


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Batch on Friday, July 3, 2020, 15:48:33
Hunt, Caddis and Donohue . Not sure how to pick the best two out that!

Good news :)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, July 3, 2020, 15:50:42
Hunt, Caddis and Donohue . Not sure how to pick the best two out that!

Good news :)
TBH I prefer Hunt at RB but you cant drop Caddis, difficult decisions and would be based upon form not quality.

Maybe even playing Donohue in front of Hunt as a wide midfielder, his delivery into the box from the left was excellent in every game he played.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, July 3, 2020, 15:58:37
If you have forgotten Dions crossing at all then watch this, 45 seconds in - the delivery for Doyle is immaculate.

https://www.facebook.com/SwindonTownFootballClub/videos/1206156856389823/?t=70


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, July 3, 2020, 16:26:48
For some reason, I thought the player were supposed to back at the club (perhaps not for pre-season but for something else) at the end of this week
Some are back doing work, Woolery, Conroy and I’m guessing Lyden at least were on the hub Astro today.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Friday, July 3, 2020, 19:50:52
If you have forgotten Dions crossing at all then watch this, 45 seconds in - the delivery for Doyle is immaculate.

https://www.facebook.com/SwindonTownFootballClub/videos/1206156856389823/?t=70
I'm not even going to watch that video...I bet it's Crawley away... :hmmm:


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Friday, July 3, 2020, 19:57:05
He has good quality in his left foot, he can tackle and can hit a good corner and free kick, the only thing may be keeping him on the pitch for 90 mins with his hot headedness.

I think he would be a great signing, impressed me in every game he played. As for POTY...who knows! I never thought Grant would get it this year!
If it comes to pass, you'll trawl back through the posts find mine and quote it and everyone will say I'm the man and kneel in my presence and avoid eye contact.

On the other hand, if he kicks the shit out of someone else and gets sent down or indeed if he doesn't sign for us, it will just get forgotten about.

I can't lose  ;)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, July 3, 2020, 20:08:27
If it comes to pass, you'll trawl back through the posts find mine and quote it and everyone will say I'm the man and kneel in my presence and avoid eye contact.

On the other hand, if he kicks the shit out of someone else and gets sent down or indeed if he doesn't sign for us, it will just get forgotten about.

I can't lose  ;)
Win win, I concede already :D


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, July 8, 2020, 15:46:53
2 year deal for Baudry.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Miles Mayhem on Wednesday, July 8, 2020, 15:54:41
2 yrs at 32. Seems like a lot but he does offer a calming influence at the back. Hope his legs don’t go but it’s interesting we’re offing that kind of deal. Money can’t be that tight


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, July 8, 2020, 15:59:47
2 yrs at 32. Seems like a lot but he does offer a calming influence at the back. Hope his legs don’t go but it’s interesting we’re offing that kind of deal. Money can’t be that tight

He is not exactly renown for, nor dependent upon, his pace is he, lots of players have a mind that can get them through a game as they get older?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: hefty toe on Wednesday, July 8, 2020, 16:11:30
Might be unpopular but wouldn't have offered Baudry a 2 year deal. His injury record has not been good over the last few years.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Kinky Tom on Wednesday, July 8, 2020, 16:21:26
I imagine appearances will factor heavily in the terms of the contract, could also assist in coaching during the second year too. 

Bit of a surprise but I can't imagine Power sanctioning a contract that would be a bad deal for the club. 


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 8, 2020, 16:22:15
Baudry is ok hes not great but hes certainly not shit, cost us a few goals last season but hes solid enough.

I would have offered a 1 year with a 1 year extension if he plays a certain number of games.

Hes never had much pace but is a decent distributer of the ball and is not bad in the air but his tackling is at times a little off.

Still 100 times better than both Lancashire and Robertson put together.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: theakston2k on Wednesday, July 8, 2020, 16:47:37
Baudry is ok hes not great but hes certainly not shit, cost us a few goals last season but hes solid enough.

I would have offered a 1 year with a 1 year extension if he plays a certain number of games.

Hes never had much pace but is a decent distributer of the ball and is not bad in the air but his tackling is at times a little off.

Still 100 times better than both Lancashire and Robertson put together.
Disagree, after a shakey start he was very good, he was key to how we played and when he was alongside Fryers we were immense. Wellens rated him as the best defender in league 2 so I’ll go with his opinion.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, July 8, 2020, 16:51:49
I’m firmly in the Frenchie camp. Good CB.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Wednesday, July 8, 2020, 17:12:12
Baudry is ok hes not great but hes certainly not shit, cost us a few goals last season but hes solid enough.

I would have offered a 1 year with a 1 year extension if he plays a certain number of games.

Hes never had much pace but is a decent distributer of the ball and is not bad in the air but his tackling is at times a little off.

Still 100 times better than both Lancashire and Robertson put together.

Not doubting you PV, but when did we concede any goals directly as a result of a Baudry error? We probably did, I just can't remember any off the top of my head!!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 8, 2020, 17:48:11
Disagree, after a shakey start he was very good, he was key to how we played and when he was alongside Fryers we were immense. Wellens rated him as the best defender in league 2 so I’ll go with his opinion.
Thats fair enough I just remember him being out jumped a lot by centre forwards and his positioning at times looks a little wayward and when you dont have loads of pace you rely on positioning.

Carlisle home he was behind the scorer who he was marking.

Colchester away Norris beat him at the far post for the 1st goal.

Exeter home his pass straight to Williams who promply scored with his next touch.

Cheltenham away lost his marker at the near post who then scored.

Was not marking his man home to Morecambe when the striker strolled into massive space and scored, yes not directly his fault but he should have been tighter but positioning was poor.

Gave away the 2nd penalty away at Salford.

Lost his marker at the near post for the 2nd Crewe goal in the away game.

Thats no singling him out I am just answering where he made mistakes, I think hes a solid L2 defender and probably every single defender can be blamed or at fault for goals.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, July 8, 2020, 18:09:57
He's much better than we have had in recent years in that position.  By no means the best defender you can hope for, but he can keep possession of the ball and knows a trick or two (fouls) when required.  Given the quality of other defenders we have seen, I'd be content with retaining him.  Our game is based on keeping the ball and having 11 players who can pass it.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 8, 2020, 18:21:24
He's much better than we have had in recent years in that position.  By no means the best defender you can hope for, but he can keep possession of the ball and knows a trick or two (fouls) when required.  Given the quality of other defenders we have seen, I'd be content with retaining him.  Our game is based on keeping the ball and having 11 players who can pass it.
Absolutely this.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, July 15, 2020, 15:48:23
Rob Hunt extends for another year.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: donkey on Wednesday, July 15, 2020, 15:50:02
Rob Hunt extends for another year.

Great news.  Cracking player.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, July 15, 2020, 15:51:22
In previous seasons would have walked away with POTY playing how he has done...


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: hefty toe on Wednesday, July 15, 2020, 15:55:56
Great news re Rob Hunt. Excellent player.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: theakston2k on Wednesday, July 15, 2020, 15:56:26
I make that 11 what you would class as first team players on the books for next season now. A lot of people moaning about lack of signings but I’d bet a lot that we are better off than most clubs, defensively except a for keeper we are probably one centre back and another full back short of being done.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: tans on Wednesday, July 15, 2020, 15:56:51
Good news


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, July 15, 2020, 15:59:59
I make that 11 what you would class as first team players on the books for next season now. A lot of people moaning about lack of signings but I’d bet a lot that we are better off than most clubs, defensively except a for keeper we are probably one centre back and another full back short of being done.
Presume Donohue is the full back. Need Grant to sign next.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 15, 2020, 17:06:33
Great news about Hunt, as Aud says now tie down Grant for at least 1 more season asap.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, July 15, 2020, 17:36:55
Presume Donohue is the full back.
If all the full backs who have been offered deals accept them, Donohue could be surplus? Either in contract or offered we have Hunt, Caddis, Fryers, Reid, Iandolo.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 15, 2020, 17:59:29
If all the full backs who have been offered deals accept them, Donohue could be surplus? Either in contract or offered we have Hunt, Caddis, Fryers, Reid, Iandolo.
Iandolo has been offered a contract elsewhere and is mulling it over, I can forsee Reid going out on loan again and Wellens seemed to prefer Fryers as a centre back which would leave just Hunt, Caddis and Donohue.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, July 15, 2020, 18:50:55
iandolo isn't a full back


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, July 15, 2020, 19:10:36
Iandolo has been offered a contract elsewhere and is mulling it over, I can forsee Reid going out on loan again and Wellens seemed to prefer Fryers as a centre back which would leave just Hunt, Caddis and Donohue.
Hence why I said "If" :)

iandolo isn't a full back
Wing back/full back. Don't think he'd be first choice in either position in our squad, but as a squad player he'd still count as cover for a position where we seem to have lots of options.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: theakston2k on Wednesday, July 15, 2020, 19:15:41
If all the full backs who have been offered deals accept them, Donohue could be surplus? Either in contract or offered we have Hunt, Caddis, Fryers, Reid, Iandolo.
Donohue is the best of all the options when it comes to left back though assuming he can be kept on the straight and narrow.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, July 15, 2020, 19:17:47
Donohue is the best of all the options when it comes to left back though assuming he can be kept on the straight and narrow.
Not doubting his quality, just musing aloud whether we can or would want to have so many options for one position (and yes I know several of them can play other positions too) in what's likely to be an era of much more constrained budgets. We'll see, I'm sure Wellens has a plan for it.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Waffle on Wednesday, July 15, 2020, 19:52:49
I think if we sign Donohue we should be good at full back with him, fryers, hunt and Caddis, with potentially Reid or maybe he is loaned out again. 2 for each position should be enough with possible budget restrictions and each can one of them can cover another position.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: theakston2k on Wednesday, July 15, 2020, 20:23:06
Not doubting his quality, just musing aloud whether we can or would want to have so many options for one position (and yes I know several of them can play other positions too) in what's likely to be an era of much more constrained budgets. We'll see, I'm sure Wellens has a plan for it.
If it comes to Iandolo or Donohue though it’s Donohue every time for me. From what we’ve seen of Reid so far I can’t see him figuring at all. Donohue has played left back, left mid and even centre mid for teams in the past so definitely ticks the versatile box as well.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, July 15, 2020, 20:31:48
Iandolo migtht be better off going somewhere else. At his age he needs games, and we can't promise him that.

We can then watch him turn into Ronaldo after a full season and get sold for gazillions.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, July 15, 2020, 20:53:09
Iandolo is a good footballer but doesn't seem to know how to play a position.  I guess the hope has always been that will come with age and experience, but doesn't seem like much progress has been made really.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Bogus Dave on Wednesday, July 15, 2020, 21:42:45
Iandolo looked incredibly promising when he first broke through as a number ten, before being completely ruined by Flitcroft putting him at left back because he was left footed. Another in the long list of reasons to hate flitcroft


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Wednesday, July 15, 2020, 21:50:18
Iandolo was looking quite promising when he seemed to be breaking through as a No.10 but obviously a bad injury this term has unfortunately set him back. It could be make or break for him, whether with us or not. I'm sure Wellens seems him more as an attacking minded player. Anyhoo Flitcroft totally misjudged his ability by shoving/shoehorning him into a LB role, purely based on him being left footed.

I feel his time may be up here though and better to move on, especially if he wants regular  game time. L2 should have several offers but he could still be a squad player here.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, July 16, 2020, 08:42:32
For the sake of his career I think Iandolo needs to move on, I doubt he will get much game time with us next season, he has skill and control but drifts in and out of games and his defending at times is shocking.

He needs to be played with a solid fullback behind him giving him the freedom to attack.

He also suffered quite a nasty injury last season and that could take a while to come back to any level of fitness again.

Donohue is easily the best left back at the club if he signs, Fryers is inconsistant, Hunt is great but I prefer him at right back, Caddis is a great right back as well though. Fitting them all in may be difficult but then Donohue has played as a left midfielder many times in his career so would give Hunt/Fryers more protection if played in front of them when needed.

I would like Donohue back for certain, he is also on last chance saloon territory so should up his game.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, July 20, 2020, 12:39:16
Sounds like McCormick is leaving.

Iandolo and Grant close.

Woolery, Fryers and Isgrove hopeful.

Rose contract offer in the next 10 days.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: hefty toe on Monday, July 20, 2020, 13:03:50
Very pleased that Iandolo is basically done. Much better player than most of our fans seem to think. His versatility is also important particularly if squad size is smaller.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, July 20, 2020, 13:06:43
If we could only choose 1 from Doyle, Yates and Grant, I bet a penny to a pound of pig shit the vast majority would pick Grant.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, July 20, 2020, 13:07:32
If we could only choose 1 from Doyle, Yates and Grant, I bet a penny to a pound of pig shit the vast majority would pick Grant.

It's a no brainer for me. Grant all the way.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, July 20, 2020, 13:21:43
It's a no brainer for me. Grant all the way.
This.

A bit disappointed by LMc leaving, he was a solid back up, but understandable.

A bit meh about Iandolo, occassionally shows what he has in his locker but I don't think hes ready for L1 yet, is one of the most inconsistant players and looks far better going forwards than defending, Rose is a very solid dependable pro and pleased he is expected to sign.

Woolery, Fryers and Isgrove be good if they sign but no biggie if they chose to leave, all good squad members though and their departure would disappoint me but the loss of Grant would be the only one I would be upset about if he didn't sign for us for at least another season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: tans on Monday, July 20, 2020, 13:24:42
I though they took up an option on Fryers anyway, these talks are just about extending that. Wellens said this in one of first interviews at the end of the season


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: theakston2k on Monday, July 20, 2020, 13:43:19
This.

A bit disappointed by LMc leaving, he was a solid back up, but understandable.

A bit meh about Iandolo, occassionally shows what he has in his locker but I don't think hes ready for L1 yet, is one of the most inconsistant players and looks far better going forwards than defending, Rose is a very solid dependable pro and pleased he is expected to sign.

Woolery, Fryers and Isgrove be good if they sign but no biggie if they chose to leave, all good squad members though and their departure would disappoint me but the loss of Grant would be the only one I would be upset about if he didn't sign for us for at least another season.
I thought McCormick looked past it this session and especially awkward playing Wellens style of football as his kicking is poor and he’s woeful with the ball at his feet. He’s an old style keeper and not what we need anymore, just looking back to last pre season all the keepers we were looking at were all about distribution and luckily we got Benda.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, July 20, 2020, 13:47:14
Tbf, a fair few of Benda’s clearances weren’t always the best.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: theakston2k on Monday, July 20, 2020, 14:01:20
Tbf, a fair few of Benda’s clearances weren’t always the best.
But that was because Benda was always trying to find a man, he could pump it down the middle all day long if he wanted and his kicking into the wind was the best I’ve ever seen from a Town keeper. McCormick on the other hand purely pumped it long and any awkward back pass or bouncing ball usually resulted in panic and a mis-kick.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, July 20, 2020, 14:02:46

A bit disappointed by LMc leaving, he was a solid back up, but understandable.


Assume he has received another better wage offer or one where he has more chance of playing, he's 36 so probably last contract for him?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, July 20, 2020, 14:05:47
his kicking into the wind was the best I’ve ever seen from a Town keeper.

Admittedly I only saw him at Carlisle where he (and I suspect many others had stinkers) but on that day his kicking into the wind was OK, his kicking with the wind was woeful (seemed to completely miss the lessons of the first half)!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, July 20, 2020, 14:09:54
LMc could have a gig lined-up closer to home.

Plymouth, Exeter, Torquay and Yeovil could all need a new goalkeeper (if he's still based down that way)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Red Frog on Monday, July 20, 2020, 14:15:41
If we could only choose 1 from Doyle, Yates and Grant, I bet a penny to a pound of pig shit the vast majority would pick Grant.

I'm confused. Are you offering to stump up the penny or the pound of pig-shit? Either way, it's not a very attractive wager.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: theakston2k on Monday, July 20, 2020, 14:17:46
Admittedly I only saw him at Carlisle where he (and I suspect many others had stinkers) but on that day his kicking into the wind was OK, his kicking with the wind was woeful (seemed to completely miss the lessons of the first half)!
At the Stratton bank end this season every opposition keeper in the wind was struggling to get anywhere near the halfway line, where as Benda was able to clear it and then some every time. I’d imagine with his ability he was told to try and pick out specific targets not just % plays.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, July 20, 2020, 14:23:51
LMc could have a gig lined-up closer to home.

Plymouth, Exeter, Torquay and Yeovil could all need a new goalkeeper (if he's still based down that way)
Judging by all the play off games I witnessed in L1 and L2 every club needs a new goalkeeper, he is a better keeper than every one on show out of the 8 teams involved.

Judging by the reception he got at Exeter thats one you can easily cross off that list, Yeovil have the very experienced Stuart Nelson on contract for another season so unlikely to be them.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Wednesday, July 22, 2020, 02:34:07
LMc could have a gig lined-up closer to home.

Plymouth, Exeter, Torquay and Yeovil could all need a new goalkeeper (if he's still based down that way)

Or possibly West Midlands way if going back to his true roots of Coventry. Not signing for them though but Walsall could be an option. See Maik Taylor is GK Coach there so maybe half an eye on retirement too. Plymouth seems off the cards unless it is purely a coaching role.

At Walsall he would be No.2/back up to Roberts; though this is pure speculation on my part.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, July 28, 2020, 13:13:38
BBC Talk of the Town

Woolery/agent isn't answering the phone. That might be dead.

Rose needs to call RW as his agent told a few 'porky pies' in the Yates deal (same agent)

Yates wanted the Blackpool move throughout. (Seems like Town wasted a bit of time on that)

Grant phoned RW to clear the Manchester thing (obvious dig at Keshi)

Grant wants to stay, hoping it'll be done before Thursday

McCormick to Plymouth

Isgrove closer to deal

Fryers agreed (Wednesday done hopefully)

Hoping for one signing before the weeks out either a loan or a perm (same player)

3 or 4 trialists on Monday (one gk)

Got close to signing a goalkeeper but the manager was sacked


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Riddick on Tuesday, July 28, 2020, 13:21:58
Who has been sacked recently? Can only think of Pearson at Watford.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Processed Beats on Tuesday, July 28, 2020, 13:25:13
Who has been sacked recently? Can only think of Pearson at Watford.

Cowleys at Huddersfield?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, July 28, 2020, 13:26:19
Really no love lost with Anderson is there, talking about the video incident basically says that if Yates & Grant mix with the wrong crowd that’s what happens 😂


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 28, 2020, 13:30:17
According to the Watford forum Daniel Bachmann has been told he can leave with Kilmarnock a bidder, a loan move. He was on loan there this last season.

Kilmarnock are not willing to wait for Watford to replace their manager though and want a decision soon.

That could be a possibility.

Bristol City, Huddersfield, Watford and Birmingham have all got rid of their managers recently.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Waffle on Tuesday, July 28, 2020, 13:34:59
Just had a look through recent dismissals.

Bristol City, Birmingham, Huddersfield, Watford

Maybe Colchester depending on when this was recorded? As their manager was announced today.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: dphunt88 on Tuesday, July 28, 2020, 13:43:00
Just had a look through recent dismissals.

Bristol City, Birmingham, Huddersfield, Watford

Maybe Colchester depending on when this was recorded? As their manager was announced today.

think it was recorded yesterday evening, because during the chat with Hodgetts, Wellens has a notification come through that David Artell at Crewe was crowned as LMA Manager of the season for L2 - and this news came through yesterday evening i'm pretty sure.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 28, 2020, 13:53:01
Just had a look through recent dismissals.

Bristol City, Birmingham, Huddersfield, Watford
See post directly above yours.... ;)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Waffle on Tuesday, July 28, 2020, 14:04:10
See post directly above yours.... ;)

You expect me to read and not just post shite?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 28, 2020, 14:23:53
You expect me to read and not just post shite?
Nah not really, we are all guilty of that :D


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, July 28, 2020, 14:25:33
Nah not really, we are all guilty of that :D

The old 80/25% rule applies.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 28, 2020, 15:46:56
Ellis Iandolo signs an extension for 2 years.

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2020/july/iandolo-extends/


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, July 28, 2020, 15:50:26
Excellent. That set up at Cambridge was class.

The clattering he got at Vale was disgusting.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, July 28, 2020, 15:53:32
Ellis Iandolo signs an extension for 2 years.

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2020/july/iandolo-extends/

Good. There's definitely a player in there somewhere. Time for home to start kicking on, though.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, July 28, 2020, 15:54:10
Guess that gets us around the home grown rule and allows us to have 7 subs so a useful extension for many reasons.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Tuesday, July 28, 2020, 15:56:06
Good news that Iandolo has signed.

Still improving and will get games this season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 28, 2020, 15:56:33
Good. There's definitely a player in there somewhere. Time for home to start kicking on, though.
He needs to find his best position, for me its as a winger, his defending isn't up to standard yet but sometimes his crossing is excellent, as Aud says the set up at Cambridge was brilliant.

I still think a loan with game time would be best for him until Christmas though, he needs minutes on the pitch now.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 28, 2020, 17:15:54
I don't get iandolo.

he's got technique. but how long do you give him.

I hope he proves me wrong


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 28, 2020, 17:27:40
I don't get iandolo.

he's got technique. but how long do you give him.

I hope he proves me wrong
Pretty much this.

He has a talent but is far from a 1st team standard consistantly and where he goes from here I dont know, he would benefit from a run of games but I feel its unlikely with us, 2 years surprises me though.

Good luck to him, would love to be proved wrong about him.

Is the longest serving player left at the club, has progressed a bit in 5 years but not enough for me.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Tuesday, July 28, 2020, 17:32:27
Last season was definitely his best though...


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Waffle on Tuesday, July 28, 2020, 17:40:38
Let's hope next season will be better.

RW must rate him as well due to a 2 year contract. I think he will be played further up the pitch this season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, July 28, 2020, 17:42:15
I don't get iandolo.

he's got technique. but how long do you give him.

I hope he proves me wrong

There are three types of footballer who get the Scholarships - Athletes (with the hope of teaching them to play football), good footballers and players with great technique (with the hope of teaching them to play football).  The latter group tend to fail more I think, because they can't rely on superb strength or pace to cover for not knowing where they should be or what they should be doing.  It's pretty hard to know if you've managed to get the ones in the middle when they are young though.  Iandolo simply doesn't look like a player that knows how to play football, he's just good with a football - I know that sounds odd, but I know what I mean.  As a youngster, I had a good footballers brain, an average footballers technique and zero athletic abilities.  Doomed to failure.  I bet Iandolo used to be able to do all sorts of tricks in the playground and grew up not having to worry about what position he'd play.

Something like that.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, July 28, 2020, 19:37:02
I don't get iandolo.

he's got technique. but how long do you give him.

I hope he proves me wrong

I agree, however, there is the Wellens effect. So based on the fact the gaffer has dished out a two year deal he must see something we have missed.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, July 29, 2020, 09:08:54
There are three types of footballer who get the Scholarships - Athletes (with the hope of teaching them to play football), good footballers and players with great technique (with the hope of teaching them to play football).  The latter group tend to fail more I think, because they can't rely on superb strength or pace to cover for not knowing where they should be or what they should be doing.  It's pretty hard to know if you've managed to get the ones in the middle when they are young though.  Iandolo simply doesn't look like a player that knows how to play football, he's just good with a football - I know that sounds odd, but I know what I mean.  As a youngster, I had a good footballers brain, an average footballers technique and zero athletic abilities.  Doomed to failure.  I bet Iandolo used to be able to do all sorts of tricks in the playground and grew up not having to worry about what position he'd play.

Something like that.
Understand what you mean generally, but in regards to the specific instance of Iandolo, I think Wellens has seen enough of him to be able to make up his mind that he can play football and with all due respect I'd trust Wellens judgement on that rather more than yours or mine.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, July 29, 2020, 10:38:52
I don't get iandolo.

he's got technique. but how long do you give him.

I hope he proves me wrong

You need squad players, daresay he's reasonably cheap and can do a job up and down the left.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: theakston2k on Wednesday, July 29, 2020, 10:48:31
I don't get iandolo.

he's got technique. but how long do you give him.

I hope he proves me wrong
He counts as a home grown player which means with him in the squad we can have 7 subs on the bench. We know he can do a job if required whereas the alternative is a youth player on the bench or only 6 players. Keeping him makes sense on a number of fronts.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, July 29, 2020, 11:03:41
I've lost track of the home grown bollocks..

but you are correct

didn't mean to be down on him. He just hadn't really shown he's going to be ousting anyone.

that said, it's easy to forget he's only 22 and had a few injury issues


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: reeves4england on Wednesday, July 29, 2020, 12:00:46
Versatile, still young, meets the home grown rules and was looking increasingly handy until he was assaulted against Vale. At the bare minimum he's a reasonable squad player so well worth keeping. As has been said, perhaps RW can nail down a role that suits him best and develop him there.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: river monster on Wednesday, July 29, 2020, 12:08:25
Definitely has something about him and fills out the squad which many have stated. Brilliant assist at Cambridge and I thought he was superb that day at Orient..


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, July 29, 2020, 13:41:08
You'd almost want to to take him to one side and give him a personal coach for the next season.  Just drill him on positional and tactical play, see if it works.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Wednesday, July 29, 2020, 15:22:06
You'd almost want to to take him to one side and give him a personal coach for the next season.  Just drill him on positional and tactical play, see if it works.

I'd imagine he would work well under the guidance of a coach like Scott Parker. He clearly understands the difference of characters. The mental element too and that a "one way fix" works for everyone. He's become an impressive manager and done well to bounce back to the Prem too. No easy task. Many more experienced have failed.

Btw, I'm not suggesting Ian is capable of that level (in case those here that love to pick out one word and use it as an argument against), just that a coach like Parker could get the best out of him. I think Wellens might be able to also.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: tans on Wednesday, July 29, 2020, 15:39:34
Fryers signs deal until 2022


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Wednesday, July 29, 2020, 15:42:08
Sensible 2 year deal. Do you know if that has a +1 option?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, July 29, 2020, 15:42:17
Excellent! Drip feeding these extensions, aren’t they.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, July 29, 2020, 15:43:48
Fryers signs deal until 2022
Decent!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Riddick on Wednesday, July 29, 2020, 15:44:23
Fryers signs deal until 2022

It was announced as a 2 year deal last summer as well so look forward to next year and him being out of contract.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, July 29, 2020, 15:47:24
Next year is 2021. How can he be OOC then?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Riddick on Wednesday, July 29, 2020, 15:48:19
Next year is 2021. How can he be OOC then?

See announcement last year https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2019/june/zeki-fryers-joins-swindon-town/#:~:text=Swindon%20Town%20are%20delighted%20to,contract%20with%20recently%2Dpromoted%20Barnsley.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, July 29, 2020, 15:51:57
Yeah. But it’s just been announced he’s signed a contract until 2022


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, July 29, 2020, 16:00:27
Why the hell did Blackpool not sign him? Our players not good enough for them all of a sudden??


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Wednesday, July 29, 2020, 16:21:36
Why the hell did Blackpool not sign him? Our players not good enough for them all of a sudden??

Blackpool were only willing to offer him a 3yr deal  ;)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, July 29, 2020, 16:36:00
Why the hell did Blackpool not sign him? Our players not good enough for them all of a sudden??
:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, July 29, 2020, 16:41:09
I'm sure it's nothing, but the recent OS articles on contract extensions have said 'the deal is subject to EFL and FA approval.'

Is that... totally normal and nothing to worry about?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, July 29, 2020, 16:41:45
THE CURRENT SQUAD

THE FIRST TEAMERS

Mathieu Baudry (DC - 2022)  
Tom Broadbent (DC - 2021)
Paul Caddis (DR - 2021)
Dion Conroy (c) (DC - 2021)
Zeki Fryers (D/WBL - 2022)
Rob Hunt (D/WBRL - 2022)

Michael Doughty (AMC - 2022)
Ellis Iandolo (AML - 2022)
Jordan Lyden (DM - 2022)
Matty Palmer (MC - 2021)

Hallam Hope (AMRL/ST - 2021)  
Daillang Jaiyesimi (AMRC/FC - 2023)  

THE FRINGE

Taylor Curran (DC - 2021)
Luke Haines (DC/DM - 2021)
Archie Matthews (GK - 2021)
Cameron McGilp (DC/DM - 2021)
Tyler Reid (DR - 2021)
Scott Twine (AML/ST - 2021)

FIRST YEAR PROS

Anthony Cheshire (DC - 2021)
Massimo Giamattei (MC - 2021)
Toby Holland (ML - 2021)

CONTRACT TALKS

Anthony Grant (DM) - Getting closer
Lloyd Isgrove (AMRL) - Getting closer
Danny Rose (DM/MLC) - Agent dramas. Needs to get in touch with RW...
Kaiyne Woolery (AMRL/ST) - Not answering the phone... maybe?

NOTE:
Positions taken from Sortitoutsi
There may be some errors but, sure, you go and spend a couple of minutes finding them.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: tans on Wednesday, July 29, 2020, 17:03:40
I'm sure it's nothing, but the recent OS articles on contract extensions have said 'the deal is subject to EFL and FA approval.'

Is that... totally normal and nothing to worry about?

Thats normal


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, July 29, 2020, 17:11:30
I reckon they'll try and top up Conroy's contract by a year too.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Quagmire on Monday, August 3, 2020, 16:50:11
I have rather randomly, stumbled across this on YouTube - and didn’t know where to put it.

https://youtu.be/7z4l_sXiQc4


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: pauld on Monday, August 3, 2020, 17:31:30
I have rather randomly, stumbled across this on YouTube - and didn’t know where to put it.

https://youtu.be/7z4l_sXiQc4
Clearly should be in the Transplant Rumours thread


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Quagmire on Monday, August 3, 2020, 17:36:16
Clearly should be in the Transplant Rumours thread

 :D


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: hanneyred on Monday, August 3, 2020, 19:15:32
It’s interesting to see Woolerys Instagram, always posting videos of him working out. Clearly feels he can get a deal elsewhere, otherwise he would be in training.

Time to say thanks, all the best for the future???


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Monday, August 3, 2020, 20:17:29
If Frank Nouble can fluke a move to League 1 then I expect Woolery certainly can too!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Monday, August 3, 2020, 20:56:53
If Frank Nouble can fluke a move to League 1 then I expect Woolery certainly can too!

He doesn't need to fluke one though (technically) as he would have a first refusal with Town. Without splitting contractual hairs, he's a L1 player. I'm sure if he doesn't choose us, his good mate at the Field of Blooms will be convincing him to go there and ride the Big One  :hmmm:

Woolery is a better player than Keshi in my opinion though. With a bit less of the attitude.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: tans on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 09:46:33
Grant confirmed

1 yeard deal


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 09:49:31
Grant confirmed

1 yeard deal
To Blackpool.

(https://i.postimg.cc/8zZ3TWbC/a116360129-758966921541219-2412489878028114736-n.jpg) ;)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Walthams on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 09:49:54
Grant confirmed

1 yeard deal

Time to go on the Blackpool forum.

Great news, just a couple of strikers and keepers needed.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: tans on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 09:50:23
Bbc wilts


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Walthams on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 09:50:27
Time to go on the Blackpool forum.

Great news, just a couple of strikers and keepers needed.
Oh shit



Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 09:51:16
you b eauuuuuuuty


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 09:52:44
Glad that’s sorted, tbh.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Walthams on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 09:54:19
To Blackpool.

(https://i.postimg.cc/8zZ3TWbC/a116360129-758966921541219-2412489878028114736-n.jpg) ;)

Stitched Up!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 09:55:53
8 of last years best XI still here then, not a lot to complain about really.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 09:57:45
Who the fuck did that pic? Cunt of the highest order!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 09:58:20
Grant confirmed

1 yeard deal

Great news and a 1 year deal is sensible. Good start to the day :)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 10:01:05
Who the fuck did that pic? Cunt of the highest order!
No idea I was sent it by a mate of a mate somewhere down the line.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 10:01:42
Grant signing is a great signing, 1 year is good and if he does as well this season then extend it.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: welshred on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 10:06:08
Time to go on the Blackpool forum.


Surprisingly they've decided that he's too old and they never wanted him anyway.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 10:09:50
Surprisingly they've decided that he's too old and they never wanted him anyway.
I saw that! they seem to think hes not good enough for them anyway.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 10:13:44
Surprisingly they've decided that he's too old and they never wanted him anyway.

Exactly like we did a week or so ago.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Jilted John on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 10:15:10
Exactly like we did a week or so ago.
Show me one post by one person on here that suggested that.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: welshred on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 10:15:40
Exactly like we did a week or so ago.

Fuck off, I didn't! The bloke is about as key as a key player could be.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 10:16:00
Exactly like we did a week or so ago.
Not really true that is it...

Anyway Wellens, Jewell and Chorley can pretty much focus purely on strikers and keepers now which is a nice position to be in compared to seasons gone by.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 10:16:32
Fuck off, I didn't! The bloke is about as key as a key player could be.
I don't think anyone posted that, hes always been our key player.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 10:29:17
Plenty more good news will come.
People just need to relax and stop all this rumour bollocks.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 10:30:48
Plenty more good news will come.
People just need to relax and stop all this rumour bollocks.
That'll do for me Duke👍😉


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 10:59:35
Grant at even 80% of last season's level will still be very good in this league.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 12:41:10
Grant at even 80% of last season's level will still be very good in this league.

Will enjoy an Oxford Derby.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 13:54:01
Plenty more good news will come.
People just need to relax and stop all this rumour bollocks.
Nah, fuck that. I've heard we're selling the pitch to the Duke of Marlborough for him to feed to his polo ponies and the players are having to train in the car park. In wellies. There you go, that's what pre-season is for.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 16:09:02
Will enjoy an Oxford Derby.

Can see that being on the TV, with a bit of luck.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: tans on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 16:12:29
Can see that being on the TV, with a bit of luck.
Hopefully.

Sky have never shown any of the previous ones though


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: tans on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 16:15:29
Taylor Curran signs 3 year extension


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 16:17:05
Now get him out on loan in the conference.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Old_Town_Red on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 16:18:34
Taylor Curran signs 3 year extension

Wellens and co must rate him to give him a 3 year deal.



Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 16:18:52
Hopefully.

Sky have never shown any of the previous ones though

Well I’m sure you’d agree with me it is about time they fucking did. Home and away and any cup games too. Sick of this PL crap, same old, same old.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 16:19:19
Now ge him out on loan in the conference.
Would make sense as he needs games.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 16:20:11
Wellens and co must rate him to give him a 3 year deal.



Should pay for the Shrivenham road rebuild in a few years time when we flog him on...


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: tans on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 16:29:50
Well I’m sure you’d agree with me it is about time they fucking did. Home and away and any cup games too. Sick of this PL crap, same old, same old.

I agree, however im willing to bet that the only league one games shown will involve Sunderland and the ones down from the championship


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 16:37:51
I agree, however im willing to bet that the only league one games shown will involve Sunderland and the ones down from the championship

Yeah, I expect you’re on the money with that. Sadly.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Saxondale on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 16:45:07
And MK.  They have a massive stiffy for MK.  Probably because they've existed as long as sky.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 18:20:57
Can see that being on the TV, with a bit of luck.
Hope not, we're shit on telly


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 18:36:11
Hope not, we're shit on telly
Thats not exactly true though is it.

We have had 57 games shown live on TV over the yearsm we have won 25, drawn 20 and lost 30 of them. So 33% win ratio on live TV according to the superb Swindon-Town-FC.co.uk.

We have only lost twice int he last 9 live TV matches, one of those the awful play off final game v PNE and have won 3 and drawn 2 of the last 5 live games.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 19:12:57
Nah, fuck that. I've heard we're selling the pitch to the Duke of Marlborough for him to feed to his polo ponies and the players are having to train in the car park. In wellies. There you go, that's what pre-season is for.

There is only one Duke and he is not from Marlborough.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 20:37:09
There is only one Duke and he is not from Marlborough.
At some point mate, people will realise you are worth listening to ;) ;)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 21:25:53
At some point mate, people will realise you are worth listening to ;) ;)

;)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Tuesday, August 4, 2020, 23:05:05
Plenty more good news will come.
People just need to relax and stop all this rumour bollocks.

Intrigued after you saying I was "getting warm"...opinion on my profile pic?  :hmmm:


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, August 5, 2020, 08:50:16
Some good positive comments from Grant after his signing. Quite different to what some posters seem to have suggested about him, Wellens and the club. I don't think I saw one negative post about Grant at all during the slightly drawn out process and everyone who has watched him regularly can see exactly what he brings to the team.

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/18628402.swindon-deal-no-brainer-grant/

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Staying at Swindon was a ‘no-brainer’ says Anthony Grant after signing a new deal.

The 33-year-old midfielder signed a new one-year contract with the club yesterday and he insists he was never going to be anywhere else next season.

Speaking exclusively to the Adver, he said: “I was always intending to stay but I had to sort a few things back home.

There’s no rush to everything.

Everyone assumed just because the contract’s there I was going to sign straight away but not everybody does that.

I spoke to the gaffer and me and him get on well.

When I spoke to him, he said on the radio that I promised I would sign. So I don’t know why all the fans thought I was going.

“I’ve always been honest with him. It’s taken its time but now it’s done.”

Some of the main reasons behind Grant extending his stay at the County Ground was down to the management team, the playing squad and the fan base.

He added: “It was always a no-brainer.

There were other clubs interested but I’ll be honest, I didn’t entertain them.

Everyone thought I was going to Blackpool. People were messaging me, but like I said, I’m a man of my word and I told Richie I was signing here and in the end it got done.

“All the fans can be happy, they can stop messaging me on Instagram and Twitter now.”

And when it comes to next season, Grant is making sure he doesn’t get complacent.

“I want to try and carry on my form into next season and help all the other boys in the squad,” he said.

“There are young boys who have signed new contracts and will need help blending in and there are players that look up to me so I need to set an example and play to the best of my ability.”

“Anything’s possible in football. You can never aim too high.”


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, August 5, 2020, 09:15:14
Good stuff👍

Also interested and quite surprised to see that Taylor Curran has signed a 3 year contract extension. RW can clearly see something in him...


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, August 5, 2020, 09:29:32
There is only one Duke and he is not from Marlborough.
:D


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, August 5, 2020, 09:30:14
Thats not exactly true though is it.

We have had 57 games shown live on TV over the yearsm we have won 25, drawn 20 and lost 30 of them. So 33% win ratio on live TV according to the superb Swindon-Town-FC.co.uk.

We have only lost twice int he last 9 live TV matches, one of those the awful play off final game v PNE and have won 3 and drawn 2 of the last 5 live games.
Like a man in an orthopaedic shoe, I stand corrected


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, August 5, 2020, 09:52:22
Like a man in an orthopaedic shoe, I stand corrected
I think that misnomer comes from a run of 17 games in the mid late 90's/ early 00's when we only won 3 games and lost 11 of that run.

But since around 2005 that has swapped over almost the other way with several more wins than defeats in the 25+ games since then, certainly in the last 5 years.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently awaiting 2020-21)
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, August 5, 2020, 10:12:15
There is only one Duke and he is not from Marlborough.

Strangely the Duke of Marlborough... originally John Churchill didn't seem to have much to do with Marlborough, that was the fiefdom of the Marquess of Ailesbury, who lived in Spurs House, Savernake.

It should be noted that a Duke is rated higher than a Marquess.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: river monster on Saturday, August 8, 2020, 15:22:12
If my memory serves me correctly, the day we beat Southend at Roots Hall by a Fabien Robert goal to nil, Jack Payne was in the Southend starting line up alongside our very own Noel Hunt. Southend being managed at the time by Phil Brown.

A fun little factoid if I've remembered that right..


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Saturday, August 8, 2020, 15:30:37
If my memory serves me correctly, the day we beat Southend at Roots Hall by a Fabien Robert goal to nil, Jack Payne was in the Southend starting line up alongside our very own Noel Hunt. Southend being managed at the time by Phil Brown.

A fun little factoid if I've remembered that right..
You certainly have. Was as that one - almost 5 years ago now, where did that time go...another bloody hot day. Timlin played for them as well...

http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/MatchCentre.asp?MatchID=20160104

"We kept a clean sheet, we kept a clean sheet, how shit must you be, we kept a clean sheet" :)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: river monster on Saturday, August 8, 2020, 15:34:25
Yea was the hottest day of that year I think! Timlin, Of course! Forgot about him. Payne was standing in the goal line at a corner and I remember thinking to myself how tiny he was compared to everyone else.
 


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: hefty toe on Saturday, August 8, 2020, 22:14:17
Sounds like Conroy is injured from latest Talk of the Town. The area of the team that I'm concerned about is centre back. There will be more double game weeks this season and I'm not convinced that Baudry and Fryers will be able to do this without getting injured. Being blunt I don't think Broadbent is League 1 standard and Curran is probably not ready yet. Grant might end up playing quite a few games at centre back.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Saturday, August 8, 2020, 22:27:20
Grant might end up playing quite a few games at centre back.

Or at least as a very deep DM. Mind you, still some time yet. See what 'appens!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Sunday, August 9, 2020, 06:27:22
Conroy is making excellent progress week by week.
Needs to take his time before full tackling and impact on his knee can be fully approved.
Hopefully will be ready for the start of the season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: hefty toe on Sunday, August 9, 2020, 07:45:10
Conroy is making excellent progress week by week.
Needs to take his time before full tackling and impact on his knee can be fully approved.
Hopefully will be ready for the start of the season.

That sounds encouraging. Wellens's update sounded more pessimistic as though he had had a bit of a relapse.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Batch on Sunday, August 9, 2020, 08:13:23
I don't know what the issue was, but an injection and slow return over two weeks didn't sound like a relapse


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: hefty toe on Sunday, August 9, 2020, 10:26:51
I don't know what the issue was, but an injection and slow return over two weeks didn't sound like a relapse

Hope so.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, August 17, 2020, 17:50:29
Why on earth hasn’t Grant played above L1 level?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Bogus Dave on Monday, August 17, 2020, 19:03:49
He’s not good enough hth


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: donkey on Monday, August 17, 2020, 19:33:18
Why on earth hasn’t Grant played above L1 level?

He will do in 2021/22. :-)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Jilted John on Tuesday, August 18, 2020, 08:32:47
He’s not good enough hth
I and thousands of other Town fans think he is, hth.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Bogus Dave on Tuesday, August 18, 2020, 08:57:44
Hmm, I dunno. He’s 33, has played 573 games and 572 of those have been in league 1 and 2. I just feel if he was good enough he’d have been given a shot, you know??

If you’re being hyper critical he’s never *really* done much in the top half of league one - his highest ever finish is 8th, with Southend in 2008-09

He’s a very good bottom half league 1 / top half league 2 player. But he’s been around, moved around enough and played enough for me to think if he was ever going to play for a team at the top of league 1 / champ he’d have done so by now


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Jilted John on Tuesday, August 18, 2020, 09:05:42
Just because he hasn't played there doesn't mean he has never been good enough to play there, look at the sides he has played for, Crewe, Port Vale, Southend, Shrewsbury, Stevenage those teams are not likely to have decent calibre of players around him to build on a promotion challenge.

Maybe he has never had the motivation to seek a move to a better club and loves being the big fish in a  little pond?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: derbystfc on Tuesday, August 18, 2020, 09:07:33
I know it was only a preseason friendly, and Coventry probably wasn't up to full sharpness, but you can say Grant more then held his own during the match.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, August 18, 2020, 09:12:23
For a player lacking in fitness and in his first game back he bossed midfield, even the Coventry fans said as much.

One thing to add is that at every club Grant has played for in every season he has been either player of the year or in the top 3 final list. He was player of the season at Southend, Shrewsbury, Crewe, Port Vale and 2nd at Stevenage before emulating it at Swindon.

Coventry fans thoughts after Saturdays game
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Anthony grant in their midfield is EXACTLY what we’re missing

Is that Anthony Grant in the middle who used to be at Vale? Been the best player on the pitch so far

I've been impressed with him every time hes played against us.

And why does Grant always look useful against us too


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, August 18, 2020, 09:31:10
Aren't their question marks over his attitude? That might put some people off.

Wellens has mentioned it himself but said something along the lines of it not being a problem once you know him well.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, August 18, 2020, 09:32:27
Aren't their question marks over his attitude? That might put some people off.

Wellens has mentioned it himself but said something along the lines of it not being a problem once you know him well.
I believe so.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, August 18, 2020, 09:36:31
I believe so.

Well he did leave the Shrews under a cloud and that may not have been the only club for that to have happened. Clearly he has ability, just a shame from our viewpoint with seeing how he has played for us that it has never materialised.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Bogus Dave on Tuesday, August 18, 2020, 10:00:18
He’s moved around enough to think that at least one of the moves could/should have been from a side higher up the pyramid by now

I dunno. Maybe this season will be the one that changes that. Fingers crossed


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Abrahammer on Tuesday, August 18, 2020, 13:18:47
He’s not good enough for the championship, the facts prove it.

If you haven’t played in the top 2 tiers and you’re 33 it means you probably haven’t been good enough to do so during your career.

Nothing wrong with that, i couldn’t give a shit, he’s more than good enough to be a force in league 1 still and that’s all that matters


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Tuesday, August 18, 2020, 13:24:16
He’s moved around enough to think that at least one of the moves could/should have been from a side higher up the pyramid by now

I dunno. Maybe this season will be the one that changes that. Fingers crossed

I know exactly where you are coming from but it does happen in "later" life for players. Different divisions but it's all relative. I'm sure going into the 2013/14 season when Wes Morgan's deal was due to end the following Summer, he likely thought he'd be either playing to get a better deal elsewhere or doing enough to justify an extension. I would imagine at that point he would look back and think that he would spend his career as a Championship level player and no realistic thoughts about playing in the Premier League.

Obviously Leicester went on to romp a Championship title at a canter but had they only achieved a middling season, I imagine Morgan would've been seeing out his career at Champ level.

The point being, 17 other players make up a matchday squad and around another 10-13 make up a team that should be keeping you on your toes and so on. That kind of drive behind you should make you work harder, if every single one of them is working just as hard to displace you and especially so in the same position/role. Healthy competition, an older player should want some younger lad trying to force into the squad.

I can see what you mean RE: Grant, if he was (well he has been voted PoTY several times) the stand out player in a squad, then you'd think he would be a good addition to an even better squad higher up the "chain". I guess maybe his past "attitude" has been a factor, maybe an unsettling risk/influence? We as fans really don't know but as far as we can see, currently at Town he has always applied himself professionally; as well as a seemingly good relationship and understanding with RW. He played that Cov game like it was a crunch league fixture. Friendly or not, he made everyone aware that he was on the pitch. Long may it continue.

NB: Also thought Baudry played pretty well. When you watch back and track his movements, he was generally in good positions or moved to be in the right position, to make some key clearances. I do like Baudry, I think he is marginally/similarly underrated in the same way Hunt is - yet we'd definitely be weaker without them. L1 is likely Baudry's level but as stated, if you have another 17-25 players all pushing each other to be better, you can find that desire, commitment and energy to find another gear. All you then need to do is microwave it, and ping...synergy  ;)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Tuesday, August 18, 2020, 13:30:44
He’s not good enough for the championship, the facts prove it.

If you haven’t played in the top 2 tiers and you’re 33 it means you probably haven’t been good enough to do so during your career.

Nothing wrong with that, i couldn’t give a shit, he’s more than good enough to be a force in league 1 still and that’s all that matters

Don't think anyone is suggesting he would boss a top end or even mid-table Championship side but I think he could do a job in a lower end Championship side; or a recently promoted to Championship side. That would be me own opinion of his limit.

Like arseholes - opinions, we all have one. And yes, some of them stink, some think they smell of roses and some think the sun shines out of it but we do all have one nonetheless ;)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: JBZ on Tuesday, August 18, 2020, 13:44:22
I wonder whether the player has expressed a view (in interviews etc) whether he could/should have played at a higher level and, if the answer is yes, why he hasn't.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, August 18, 2020, 13:49:10
He’s not good enough for the championship, the facts prove it.


They really don't.

They may suggest it. But they fall far from proving it.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, August 18, 2020, 14:42:57
Thing is, when/if we go up again this season, would you (collective you) still want him in the team?

Damn right I would!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Tuesday, August 18, 2020, 14:53:15
Thing is, when/if we go up again this season, would you (collective you) still want him in the team?

Damn right I would!

If the same attitude and professionalism is sustained this season from last with Grant then absolutely. Even though this would be a new challenge for himself, at a minimum, doing it as a squad player; the wider experience and locker room influence would be great to have.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, August 24, 2020, 13:22:35
Interesting graphic regarding each L1 club’s squad ‘churn’. Some of the supposed big hitters have huge numbers - could go either way. Have they dumbed down or traded up?

Ours is just over 50%.



Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: theakston2k on Monday, August 24, 2020, 13:34:57
Interesting graphic regarding each L1 club’s squad ‘churn’. Some of the supposed big hitters have huge numbers - could go either way. Have they dumbed down or traded up?

Ours is just over 50%.


Isn't the higher number a good thing as effectively less churn?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, August 24, 2020, 13:44:19
I automatically thought the higher the % the higher the churn. Dunno, really.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: theakston2k on Monday, August 24, 2020, 13:48:36
I automatically thought the higher the % the higher the churn. Dunno, really.
Dark bits represent players still at club so definitely think the higher the % the better.

Ours makes sense as we've lost Benda/McCormick, Doyle, Yates and Woolery/Isgrove that would effectively account for 40% of our 1st team minutes alone last season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, August 24, 2020, 13:48:45
It is counter-intuituve at first, but it does appear the higher number means the fewer changes in the squad.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: sir windon on Monday, August 24, 2020, 14:03:05
You’d imagine stability to be a good thing, though we won div 4 and hit the top of div 3 with Paolo and there was little sign of stability on the field, off the field... or indeed ‘in the head’ there!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Geoff the Ref on Monday, August 24, 2020, 20:33:24
You’d imagine stability to be a good thing, though we won div 4 and hit the top of div 3 with Paolo and there was little sign of stability on the field, off the field... or indeed ‘in the head’ there!
I’ve just had a look at my di Canio dictionary, and the page with “stability” on it seems to have been ripped out.

Ah - here we are.  It’s tucked in at the end. 
STABILITY - Underperforming player susceptible to receiving a visit from the boys.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Saturday, August 29, 2020, 14:59:20
So, Jonny Smith on loan, should hopefully add some goals and assists.
Can't remember him when he played against us last season Oldham.
Does he fill the 'tricky little fella' requirement filled by Isgrove?

We need a 'pace and power' option as well, so I'm hoping that Woolery will sign or better still an upgraded replacement.
Hopefully those are attributes that are being looked for in the recruitment.
The formation last season was suited to playing on the counter so more of the same would be good.

The jigsaw is coming together ok.
#undertheradar


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: theakston2k on Saturday, August 29, 2020, 15:07:07
So assuming we get another forward and Woolery stays we’ll have DJ, Smith, Payne, Woolery, Hope plus 1 more as the forward players. Numbers wise that will be good, just hope the 1 more is in the Doyle mould and does all his work in the box.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Riddick on Saturday, August 29, 2020, 15:16:10
So assuming we get another forward and Woolery stays we’ll have DJ, Smith, Payne, Woolery, Hope plus 1 more as the forward players. Numbers wise that will be good, just hope the 1 more is in the Doyle mould and does all his work in the box.

I think you have to read between the lines with what Wellens has said in ToTT interviews.

DJ - We had last year
Payne - Anderson replacement
Woolery - If he stays was here last year
J Smith - Isgrove replacement
TBC - Yates repacement
TBC - Doyle replacement
T Smith - Quoted as Muskwe replacement by Wellens (may be tongue in cheek or demanding)
Hope - Here last year

Now on the face of it the  muskwe thing is a bit of a joke. But consider also that last season we tended to play 4 of these. Normally Yates, DJ, Woolery supporting Doyle. So you need 8, 2 for each position.

So you probably need 2 more still. And those two need to have experience and at least one preferably a proven goalscorer (Norwood etc).

I suspect Hope could leave as well. Wellens only said nobody was going anywhere while we are so short. If he gets those couple in i think the Hope thing could happen. The eighth then may be Twine, though Wellens has (rightly) walked back how good he is after the last couple of friendlies.

So i think its 2 Strikers now and a back up keeper, plus Donohue when it happens. He clearly wants another midfielder, suggesting someone box to box, or the Ireland deal. So i think 4-5 more to come in.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: theakston2k on Saturday, August 29, 2020, 15:20:17
I think you have to read between the lines with what Wellens has said in ToTT interviews.

DJ - We had last year
Payne - Anderson replacement
Woolery - If he stays was here last year
J Smith - Isgrove replacement
TBC - Yates repacement
TBC - Doyle replacement
T Smith - Quoted as Muskwe replacement by Wellens (may be tongue in cheek or demanding)
Hope - Here last year

Now on the face of it the  muskwe thing is a bit of a joke. But consider also that last season we tended to play 4 of these. Normally Yates, DJ, Woolery supporting Doyle. So you need 8, 2 for each position.

So you probably need 2 more still. And those two need to have experience and at least one preferably a proven goalscorer (Norwood etc).

I suspect Hope could leave as well. Wellens only said nobody was going anywhere while we are so short. If he gets those couple in i think the Hope thing could happen. The eighth then may be Twine, though Wellens has (rightly) walked back how good he is after the last couple of friendlies.

So i think its 2 Strikers now and a back up keeper, plus Donohue when it happens. He clearly wants another midfielder, suggesting someone box to box, or the Ireland deal. So i think 4-5 more to come in.

Maybe but finances are a bit different this season and Muskwe only signed in Jan & seemed a panic incase we lost either Doyle or Yates so think we may end up with one less even despite Wellens comments.
Twine isn’t getting close to the match day squad looking at those forward players so not even factoring him into the equation.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: DiV on Sunday, August 30, 2020, 07:34:16
I think Hope and Muskwe were bought in as Doyle and Yates contingence plans. Probably against the odds we managed to sign Doyle and Yates and both of back up players.

I can’t imagine we will replace all 4.

I hope Twine comes good just to annoying the poster above.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: MangoRed on Thursday, September 10, 2020, 21:15:34
Doughty off. Called it a day in the game. Focusing on trainer business?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, September 10, 2020, 21:18:42
Doughty off. Called it a day in the game. Focusing on trainer business?

This isn’t true surely?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Geoff the Ref on Thursday, September 10, 2020, 21:43:26
Doughty off. Called it a day in the game. Focusing on trainer business?
Where’s this come from?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Cheltred on Thursday, September 10, 2020, 22:02:50
Where’s this come from?
Clearly, it hasn't!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Geoff the Ref on Thursday, September 10, 2020, 22:31:36
Clearly, it hasn't!

I suspect MangoRed has cunty tendencies! :bullshit:


Title: Re: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Benzel on Thursday, September 10, 2020, 22:58:09
Doughty off. Called it a day in the game. Focusing on trainer business?
Have you taken hallucinogens?

Sent from my CLT-L09


Title: Re: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Thursday, September 10, 2020, 23:04:36
Quote from: Benzel
Have you taken hallucinogens?
You don't take them, they take you  :hippy:


Title: Re: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Geoff the Ref on Thursday, September 10, 2020, 23:08:45
You don't take them, they take you  :hippy:

How was Miss Lydia this evening? :nurse:


Title: Re: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Thursday, September 10, 2020, 23:18:14
How was Miss Lydia this evening? :nurse:

Red Card. Let's keep things on topic for once ey Monsieur Geoffers?  >:D :joystick: :flaccid: :spank:

Although, when talking about a "regular starter" potentially moving on, I did think that we do have maybe too many options to accommodate in MF. I was surprised to see Rose go and Palmer retained but maybe it is because Rose is just too similar to a couple of others?

With that in mind if a player considered a regular, had to move it could well be Doughty (and not because of Trainer related forays)  :hmmm:


Title: Re: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Geoff the Ref on Thursday, September 10, 2020, 23:29:21
Red Card. Let's keep things on topic for once ey Monsieur Geoffers?  >:D :joystick: :flaccid: :spank:

Although, when talking about a "regular starter" potentially moving on, I did think that we do have maybe too many options to accommodate in MF. I was surprised to see Rose go and Palmer retained but maybe it is because Rose is just too similar to a couple of others?

With that in mind if a player considered a regular, had to move it could well be Doughty (and not because of Trainer related forays)  :hmmm:
I was just so impressed that you had joined us, and so frustrated that the instigator of tonight’s hot “news” had buggered off without facing the inquisition into his unsubstantiated allegation, that my mind wandered for a second or two. 
I’ll try to be better behaved in future. :yay:


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: tans on Friday, September 11, 2020, 06:56:16
Doughty off. Called it a day in the game. Focusing on trainer business?

Doubt it.

Maybe at the end of the season when contract expires if that ever happened


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Friday, September 11, 2020, 07:03:39
Doubt it.

Maybe at the end of the season when contract expires if that ever happened

We’ll see tomorrow unless he is injured (which I may have missed if he is) as he’s bound to be a shoe in for the starting 11.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: MangoRed on Saturday, September 12, 2020, 17:54:18
Clearly, it hasn't!

Yeah. It has.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: MangoRed on Saturday, September 12, 2020, 17:56:10
I suspect MangoRed has cunty tendencies! :bullshit:


Cunty? That’s you.

Hush your gums

Thanks


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Geoff the Ref on Saturday, September 12, 2020, 17:59:41

Cunty? That’s you.

Hush your gums

Thanks
Mango. My apologies. You were right and I was to say the least hasty in my response.
I’ve frequently admitted on here that I’m a cunt, so I’ll say no more.
Have a good evening!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: MangoRed on Saturday, September 12, 2020, 18:53:10
Mango. My apologies. You were right and I was to say the least hasty in my response.
I’ve frequently admitted on here that I’m a cunt, so I’ll say no more.
Have a good evening!

❤️


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: DiV on Saturday, September 12, 2020, 19:46:32
Funny, how none of the other ‘ITK’ers said anything about this until it had been posted, then they’d all heard it.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: MangoRed on Saturday, September 12, 2020, 20:20:25
Funny, how none of the other ‘ITK’ers said anything about this until it had been posted, then they’d all heard it.

I’ll take that as a compliment. Twitter made me laugh, one “ITK” guessed that him and Wellens had a bust up and doughty stormed off 😂


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: DiV on Saturday, September 12, 2020, 20:59:07
I’ll take that as a compliment. Twitter made me laugh, one “ITK” guessed that him and Wellens had a bust up and doughty stormed off 😂

It’s funny how certain people never break any news yet have always already heard it. Just protecting their source obviously 🙄


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Saturday, September 12, 2020, 21:07:50
It’s funny how certain people never break any news yet have always already heard it. Just protecting their source obviously 🙄


They really are the true "Captain Hindsights"  :pint:


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, September 14, 2020, 15:19:52
Squad numbers released.

1   Matej Kovar
2   Paul Caddis
3   Zeki Fryers
4   Dion Conroy
6   Mathieu Baudry
7   Diallang Jaiyesimi
8   Brett Pitman
9   Tyler Smith
11   Jonny Smith
14   Ellis Iandolo
15   Matt Smith
16   Akin Odiamyo
18   Jack Payne
19   Jordan Lyden
21   Taylor Curran
23   Matty Palmer
24   Rob Hunt
25   Joe Fryer
29   Archie Matthews
30   Luke Haines
38   Massimo Giamattei
39   John Johnston
40   Anthony Cheshire
41   Toby Holland
42   Anthony Grant
45   Hallam Hope


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Quagmire on Monday, September 14, 2020, 15:21:55
No number for Broadbent....


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, September 14, 2020, 15:22:32
No Broadbent. Looks like he'll be off, then?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, September 14, 2020, 15:23:42
5 and 10 left vacant.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, September 14, 2020, 15:24:06
I’m a Broadbent fan. If he is off I hope he gets a real good gig.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: pauld on Monday, September 14, 2020, 15:33:51
I’m a Broadbent fan. If he is off I hope he gets a real good gig.
+1


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, September 14, 2020, 15:35:34
I’m a Broadbent fan. If he is off I hope he gets a real good gig.

Same here. I thought he was a real classy player when he was at its best. THAT Broadbent would still be a starter I reckon, shame it all went wrong.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, September 14, 2020, 15:44:49
5 and 10 left vacant.

Was Doughty 10 (answering my question, yes he was)? if so I assume the numbers were submitted prior to Saturday and hence its emptiness.

Sad about Broadbent, although it did seem from the podcast interview that he was rather pissed off with Wellens handling of the personal issues, possibly didn't help diplomatic relations by talking about it in public. Agree hope he gets a gig!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Batch on Monday, September 14, 2020, 16:55:38
Broadbent


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: theakston2k on Monday, September 14, 2020, 17:16:28
Sadly for Broadbent between injuries and personal issues he’s basically a waste of a wage now and doesn’t have the quality to justify taking a gamble. Final nail in the coffin was Colchester home game last season I feel, was beyond terrible that day and couldn’t even head a ball. He doesn’t have the quality to take the ball from the keeper when under pressure either so doesn’t suit the way we play when building from the back.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Nijholts Nuts on Monday, September 14, 2020, 17:25:46
If he's surplus to requirements, I'd really hope that he can find a contract in League 2.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: theakston2k on Monday, September 14, 2020, 17:28:57
If he's surplus to requirements, I'd really hope that he can find a contract in League 2.
Reckon he’ll struggle, 28 with only 50 league appearances and lots of injury problems doesn’t bode well.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Nijholts Nuts on Monday, September 14, 2020, 17:37:06
Reckon he’ll struggle, 28 with only 50 league appearances and lots of injury problems doesn’t bode well.
A pity because, he seems like a thoroughly decent chap


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, September 15, 2020, 07:47:20
Well, it sounds like our player sponsorship has gone one step further this season.  Not only guaranteed a shit season, but ruined his career..

Let's sign someone we all hate and sponsor them..


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, September 15, 2020, 08:15:03
Well, it sounds like our player sponsorship has gone one step further this season.  Not only guaranteed a shit season, but ruined his career..

Let's sign someone we all hate and sponsor them..

I'll still happily accept his shirt...


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, September 15, 2020, 08:59:38
Well, it sounds like our player sponsorship has gone one step further this season.  Not only guaranteed a shit season, but ruined his career..

Let's sign someone we all hate and sponsor them..
I think we should give serious thought to sponsoring Oxford's best player


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 15, 2020, 09:04:43
I think we should give serious thought to sponsoring Oxford's best player
It could have a certain amount of comedic value for sure.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Tuesday, September 15, 2020, 10:14:34
Haha yes do it, but with Oxford agreeing that all funds go to STFC FITC  :)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, September 15, 2020, 12:05:52
Well, it sounds like our player sponsorship has gone one step further this season.  Not only guaranteed a shit season, but ruined his career..

Let's sign someone we all hate and sponsor them..
Never did get his shirt.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, September 15, 2020, 12:27:00
Never did get his shirt.

Oi?  :hmmm:


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, September 15, 2020, 12:31:54
Won Broadbent’s shirt in the sponsored evening raffle last year. Berniman posted it off, last seen in Adelaide!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, September 15, 2020, 13:21:18
Won Broadbent’s shirt in the sponsored evening raffle last year. Berniman posted it off, last seen in Adelaide!

Oh, I won it this year. Which probably means that mine's now in Toowoomba.  :hmmm:


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, September 15, 2020, 13:24:27
It’s crazy. Tracking showed it got to Athens. Then South Africa then onto Oz!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, September 15, 2020, 13:26:46
It’s crazy. Tracking showed it got to Athens. Then South Africa then onto Oz!
Well on the upside, the shirt is clearly having a wonderful tour


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, September 15, 2020, 15:41:35
I did post it honestly.  I assume we will get clarity on last years shirt once they make contact about this years sponsorship, i did speak to Adam and he said it is on his long list of things to organise.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, September 15, 2020, 15:53:29
Quote from: Berniman
I did post it honestly

Addressed to "lucky eBay winner" :) :)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, September 15, 2020, 16:08:06
I did post it honestly.  I assume we will get clarity on last years shirt once they make contact about this years sponsorship, i did speak to Adam and he said it is on his long list of things to organise.

He's only recently returned from furlough, I expect he is super busy


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, September 15, 2020, 16:27:28
Addressed to "lucky eBay winner" :) :)

:D  Not with how much it cost to post to Greece - the frustrating thing was I posted it the day after he buggered off there..


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Batch on Monday, September 21, 2020, 15:57:06
FOOTBALL : Winger Jordan Stevens has signed for @Official_STFC on loan from Leeds until the end of the season #stfc


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Nemo on Friday, October 2, 2020, 15:18:54
Reid out, and now Luke Haines on loan to Hereford (the phoenix club, now back to National League North level) until January.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: tans on Friday, October 2, 2020, 15:30:21
Got to be one incoming i reckon


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: dphunt88 on Tuesday, October 6, 2020, 14:41:13
Young centre-half Anthony Cheshire has gone on loan to Wantage Town, he's likely to play in their match against AFC Dunstable tonight.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, October 6, 2020, 15:35:11
At least the kids are getting a bit of experience for the level they may end up at for when they get released as usual in the summer


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: tans on Friday, October 9, 2020, 11:52:57
McGilp contract terminated by mutual consent


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, October 9, 2020, 11:56:52
McGilp contract terminated by mutual consent

He's found another club, then.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Nemo on Friday, October 9, 2020, 12:00:57
He's found another club, then.

Didn't FIFA 21 come out today?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Berniman on Friday, October 9, 2020, 12:58:59
Didn't FIFA 21 come out today?

:D


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: dphunt88 on Friday, October 9, 2020, 13:22:18
I'm sure that another of our first year pro's has gone out on loan - midfielder Massimo Giamattei to Hungerford Town, he came off the bench for them during the week. Seemingly nothing announced by either party mind...


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: tans on Monday, October 19, 2020, 14:54:52
Wellens says Odimayo likely to be offered a new deal


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, October 19, 2020, 14:57:02
What’s his existing deal?

On not many games he looks a prospect for sure. Kudos for whoever spotted him.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: tans on Monday, October 19, 2020, 14:58:19
On fuck all money by all accounts


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Costanza on Monday, October 19, 2020, 15:01:17
Regardless of owner, if this is a shock to anyone then I'd be shocked.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, October 19, 2020, 15:03:24
Notice he had a short loan at Waterford before he came here, assume he had been on the radar for a while.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, October 19, 2020, 15:17:02
Good.

I think he should start at CB alongside Grounds. At least until Fryers and/or Controy return.

Baudry can sit on the bench for a while and get his head straight.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, October 19, 2020, 15:22:54
Or take it out his arse!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: ronnie21 on Monday, October 19, 2020, 16:23:31
What’s his existing deal?

On not many games he looks a prospect for sure. Kudos for whoever spotted him.
One year, not sure if there is an option, guess not


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Monday, October 19, 2020, 16:32:37
Dion Conroy hopefully will be back to full Training next week.
Need him to organise that defence for sure.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, October 19, 2020, 16:47:41
Praise de Lord!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Batch on Monday, October 19, 2020, 19:11:55
fingers crossed for him.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Batch on Saturday, October 24, 2020, 18:52:09
Broadbent back in out the cold and given a squad number due to missing out on other targets that we reserved wage cap wages for


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, October 24, 2020, 18:58:14
Good. I think he’s been treated a bit shabbily.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Batch on Saturday, October 24, 2020, 19:01:06
me too.

actually thought we saw a bit of form coming back from him in his bitpart last year.

obviously we aren't partial to what goes on behind the scenes.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, October 24, 2020, 19:41:13
me too.

actually thought we saw a bit of form coming back from him in his bitpart last year.

obviously we aren't partial to what goes on behind the scenes.

I think Wellens finds it hard to forgive players if he feels they have let him down in any way


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, October 25, 2020, 00:41:02
Good.

I know he's had a disastrous spell, but he's shown himself to be a very decent player when he's on form.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, October 25, 2020, 10:09:36
In his last couple of games he didn't let us down at all, good luck to him, I think hes still a decent player.

Wellens does hold a grudge against some players but look what happened to Anderson last season, he also gave Palmer some game time despite his attitude.

I hope he comes into the side and does really well and claims a place with some solid displays.

A similr thing happened back in the late 80s to Tim Parkin, came from Rovers as a respected CB, played the first season and was terrible, got dropped by Macari and his attitude changed and he came back in the side and was player of the season in his next season with us.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, November 19, 2020, 14:44:33
Scott Twine nominated for Player of the Month in L2.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, December 15, 2020, 19:46:44
is it time to start making predictions about January, what positions will we fill ? will we recycle loans by sending some back or them getting recalled and we get others ?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 15, 2020, 21:14:52
do we have cash to get anyone?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: tans on Tuesday, December 15, 2020, 21:15:51
do we have cash to get anyone?

Doubt it, and i suspect we have probably asked for the extra grant too


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, December 16, 2020, 04:10:52
Doubt it, and i suspect we have probably asked for the extra grant too

We already have two.
That’s enough.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, December 17, 2020, 16:49:19
Doubt it, and i suspect we have probably asked for the extra grant too

May be able to change some of the loans, not sure how many loans your allowed in a season now though.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, December 17, 2020, 16:56:55
May be able to change some of the loans, not sure how many loans your allowed in a season now though.
I think its either 7 or 8 loans at any one time although only 5 can be in the matchday squad.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: kerslakeisgod on Thursday, December 17, 2020, 21:04:00
Don't matter who comes in.......they won't get paid !!!!!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Power to people on Friday, December 18, 2020, 14:36:13
Don't matter who comes in.......they won't get paid !!!!!

Do you have proof players are not being paid ?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, December 18, 2020, 14:38:00
Do you have proof players are not being paid ?
I have heard from a very reliable source that the players have been paid this season consistantly either on or very close to their pay day but some of the pension contributions have been late.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Berniman on Friday, December 18, 2020, 15:36:32
I am aware of one late payment of wages, but that was at the point that Power was requesting help from the EFL.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Costanza on Friday, December 18, 2020, 15:50:46
I am aware that awareness is very important in this thread.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Friday, December 18, 2020, 17:14:54
I am aware that awareness is very important in this thread.


But how aware are you that you must be aware of the importance of awareness in this this thread. Be aware!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: bathford on Friday, December 18, 2020, 17:56:00
We may all be aware but are we alert? As you know the forum likes a lert!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, December 26, 2020, 10:05:19
Luke Haines goes back to Hereford on loan.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, December 26, 2020, 18:37:56
From a Crawley fan today


By the way, Newport look a good side but oddly lacking in confidence. Twine looks a Championship player and they have few others there who are better than this league.’


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: theakston2k on Saturday, December 26, 2020, 18:58:05
Luke Haines goes back to Hereford on loan.
Disappointing that we can’t seem to find a seem above the 2nd tier of the national league to take him, maybe that’s his level I guess. Definitely a reality check to people who had been calling for him to get game time for us though.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, December 26, 2020, 19:05:49
Wellens is working his magic with Salford winning again and now right in the promotion mix


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: theakston2k on Saturday, December 26, 2020, 19:08:31
Wellens is working his magic with Salford winning again and now right in the promotion mix
Magic? Any manager can get a few wins when money is treated like confetti. They were in the promotion mix before he joined.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: tans on Saturday, December 26, 2020, 20:02:30
Can people stop talking about that cunt please


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, December 26, 2020, 20:19:47
Magic? Any manager can get a few wins when money is treated like confetti. They were in the promotion mix before he joined.

He hasn't no spent anything yet and they were inconsistent before he went there


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: theakston2k on Saturday, December 26, 2020, 20:55:35
He hasn't no spent anything yet and they were inconsistent before he went there
They are 6th in the league, probably about the same position they were in when he arrived. They’ve got one of the highest wage bills in the league regardless of who spent the money so doesn’t take much of a manager to get the team where they currently are!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: DiV on Saturday, December 26, 2020, 22:27:24
They are 6th in the league, probably about the same position they were in when he arrived. They’ve got one of the highest wage bills in the league regardless of who spent the money so doesn’t take much of a manager to get the team where they currently are!

What exactly is Salford’s wage bill and how does that compare with the rest of L2.
I’d also like to know how it compares to our wage budget both this season and last season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, December 27, 2020, 03:39:00
They are salary capped the same as every club - £1.5m in L2 , I think.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, December 27, 2020, 10:19:47
They are 6th in the league, probably about the same position they were in when he arrived. They’ve got one of the highest wage bills in the league regardless of who spent the money so doesn’t take much of a manager to get the team where they currently are!

We see it differently then as I see the club gaining momentum now Wellens is getting the players playing to his style & tactics and as stated above he can only work within the same budget as all other teams


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, December 27, 2020, 10:55:16
They are salary capped the same as every club - £1.5m in L2 , I think.
Tom Clarke, Darron Gibson, Ashley Hunter, George Boyd, Luke Burgess, Jordan Turnbull, Richie Towell, Ian Henderson, James Wilson and Bruna Andrade.

All signed before the wage cap was in place and all are on L1 or Championship level wages according to the clubs that they left(if not free agents) as all left and have signed on higher/comparable wages than they were on previously.

These wage hikes were what their previous manager/chairman have actually said in interviews after their leaving.

Towell and Hunter are apparently on £5k pw according to Rotherhams chairman who said he couldnt match the wage offered and Joey Barton upon selling Hunter.

https://www.balls.ie/football/richie-towell-salford-411513

No idea how true this is.
https://salarysport.com/football/sky-bet-league-two/salford-city/



Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: tans on Sunday, December 27, 2020, 12:02:12
Neville was on the latest Class of 92 full time series and he said their budget was just shy of £3m

Also that Will Grigg would rather sign for Swindon before Salford


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, December 27, 2020, 12:22:40
Neville was on the latest Class of 92 full time series and he said their budget was just shy of £3m

Also that Will Grigg would rather sign for Swindon before Salford

Wasn't Dicanio's £4 million or have I imagined it was that much


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, December 27, 2020, 12:39:03
From a Crawley fan today


By the way, Newport look a good side but oddly lacking in confidence. Twine looks a Championship player and they have few others there who are better than this league.’

On the Creepy forum they are all saying how shit the game was between 2 poor teams, the only Newport player worthy of mention was Haynes who they said was the best player on the pitch, no mention of Twine there at all.

Wasn't Dicanio's £4 million or have I imagined it was that much
I think the figure was nearer 5.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, December 27, 2020, 12:41:29
On the Creepy forum they are all saying how shit the game was between 2 poor teams, the only Newport player worthy of mention was Haynes who they said was the best player on the pitch, no mention of Twine there at all.
I think the figure was nearer 5.

Wow that's insane!
I can't imagine the Newport pitch allowed any good football to be played


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, December 27, 2020, 12:45:50
Wow that's insane!
I can't imagine the Newport pitch allowed any good football to be played
I watched their game vs Newcastle earlier in the season and the pitch looks much better than it did previously, also Newport did play some very good passing football unlike they have in previous years. Yesterdays game was at Creepy though and thats never too bad a surface.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, December 27, 2020, 13:02:10
I watched their game vs Newcastle earlier in the season and the pitch looks much better than it did previously, also Newport did play some very good passing football unlike they have in previous years. Yesterdays game was at Creepy though and thats never too bad a surface.

Fair points JJ and yes Creepy's pitch is usually ok


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Sunday, December 27, 2020, 13:11:33
Neville was on the latest Class of 92 full time series and he said their budget was just shy of £3m

Also that Will Grigg would rather sign for Swindon before Salford
Really? Was that an interview from last season?

I suspect he would get a fraction of his current wage at Salford and a fraction of a fraction of what Salford could offer at Swindon. Last year would have been more likely, with the chance of a promotion, but this year, call me a 'Doubting Thomas' but, 'I can't see it myself!' (Said in a Welsh accent).


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: theakston2k on Sunday, December 27, 2020, 13:27:28
We see it differently then as I see the club gaining momentum now Wellens is getting the players playing to his style & tactics and as stated above he can only work within the same budget as all other teams
He's also managing in a bubble where COVID has zero impact which gives him a massive advantage over other clubs in that league. He showed that without money being thrown at him he is clueless and bailed as soon as the going got tough as he'd been found out tactically.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, December 27, 2020, 13:52:41
He's also managing in a bubble where COVID has zero impact which gives him a massive advantage over other clubs in that league. He showed that without money being thrown at him he is clueless and bailed as soon as the going got tough as he'd been found out tactically.

No that's disagreeing with you but that remains to be seen. I still think one of the reasons he left was because Power didn't back him and he knew the players we had would struggle plus probably knows more about the chairmans situation than we do 


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: tans on Sunday, December 27, 2020, 15:04:07
Really? Was that an interview from last season?

I suspect he would get a fraction of his current wage at Salford and a fraction of a fraction of what Salford could offer at Swindon. Last year would have been more likely, with the chance of a promotion, but this year, call me a 'Doubting Thomas' but, 'I can't see it myself!' (Said in a Welsh accent).

Was on the latest sky documentary which was filmed last season

I think his agent meant he would sign for Swindon before even entertaining Salford. As you say, we couldnt afford him anyway


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, December 28, 2020, 16:25:02
Nixon seems sure Twine is returning

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@reluctantnicko
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Returns to Swindon. Needed.
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Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, January 7, 2021, 16:01:31
Toby Holland has also left


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, January 7, 2021, 16:08:24
Bit strange. Only signed his first pro contract in June.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, January 7, 2021, 16:43:09
Bit strange. Only signed his first pro contract in June.

I assume it was only a 6 month contract as the official announcement suggests he left at the end of his contract?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, January 7, 2021, 17:06:42
Yeah. But 6 months for your first pro contract seems odd.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, January 7, 2021, 17:14:03
Yeah. But 6 months for your first pro contract seems odd.

Was he ever near the first team squad in that time, this http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/MatchCentre.asp?MatchID=20201203 suggests he only ever made one appearance in 2019 off the bench for 21 minutes in one of the cups.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: JBZ on Thursday, January 28, 2021, 20:16:23
For a brief moment, I thought about revisiting the Curran LS podcast episode as I couldn't recall whether he mentioned how STFC managed to fight off other interested teams and secure his services.  I lost any enthusiasm for this shortly afterwards.

Is there any mention of this during the interview?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, February 2, 2021, 08:58:28
With DJ's departure, our only player contracted beyond the end of next season is now Taylor Curran.

Only six others have contracts for next season (assuming Missilou's deal is EOS, I can't see anything either way on that) - Baudry, Fryers, Hunt, Iandolo, Lyden & Payne (2022).

Since Jaiyesimi joined on 27 July, we've signed 19 first team players (9 on loan) and released or sold 11 (including 3 loan returns).

Jesus but this squad is a mess.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, February 18, 2021, 13:14:57
FOOTBALL: Goalkeeper Joe Wollacott is with @Official_STFC on another 7 day loan. Manager John Sheridan says he'll play against Crewe on Saturday. #stfc


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, February 18, 2021, 13:20:05
FOOTBALL: Goalkeeper Joe Wollacott is with @Official_STFC on another 7 day loan. Manager John Sheridan says he'll play against Crewe on Saturday. #stfc
Anxiety!!!!!! :)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, February 18, 2021, 13:56:28
FOOTBALL: Goalkeeper Joe Wollacott is with @Official_STFC on another 7 day loan. Manager John Sheridan says he'll play against Crewe on Saturday. #stfc

So is this just going to be week to week until the end of the season, obviously until BCFC's new manager wants to take a look at him.


Title: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, February 18, 2021, 13:59:56
actually, in the press conference today they talked about looking for a free agent keeper

https://www.totalswindon.com/sport/press-conference-live-swindon-town-v-crewe-alexandra/
Quote
Sheridan on keeper situation:

"Joe Wollacott will be playing Saturday but it is a position we need to get sorted.

He has looked sharp and hopefully will play well Saturday. We need to make sure the free agent we bring in is right for the club and is a keeper that will help us start winning games."



Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, February 18, 2021, 14:04:02
Which makes total sense to be fair.... as long as they're match ready



Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, February 18, 2021, 14:07:09
I know we have had a couple of free tranfer trialists training with us already, one would have been a very good signing for us but wanted way too much money and has since found himself a new club in Italy.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, February 18, 2021, 14:10:17
I know we have had a couple of free tranfer trialists training with us already, one would have been a very good signing for us but wanted way too much money and has since found himself a new club in Italy.

Mattia Lanzano?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, February 18, 2021, 14:14:08
Mattia Lanzano?
Nope the keeper wasn't Italian but he was an international keeper.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: donkey on Thursday, February 18, 2021, 14:19:57
Nope the keeper wasn't Italian but he was an international keeper.

Finnish?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, February 18, 2021, 14:27:28
Quote from: donkey
Quote
Nope the keeper wasn't Italian but he was an international keeper.
Finnish?

hot. boiling hot


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, February 18, 2021, 14:28:22
Finnish?

hot. boiling hot
Sizzling.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, February 18, 2021, 14:36:40
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niki_M%C3%A4enp%C3%A4%C3%A4

This fella?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, February 18, 2021, 14:37:46
Yep.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: donkey on Thursday, February 18, 2021, 17:20:53
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niki_M%C3%A4enp%C3%A4%C3%A4

This fella?

That's the one.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: pauld on Thursday, February 18, 2021, 17:25:04
Finnish?
No, it's still ongoing.





I'll call my own taxi


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: tans on Thursday, February 18, 2021, 22:20:12
We nearly got Ali Dia’d

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/14088956/fake-footballer-champions-league-cska-sofia/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=sunfootballfacebook180221&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1613663268


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Costanza on Friday, February 19, 2021, 07:51:24
We nearly got Ali Dia'd

*Twice


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: ibelieveinmrreeves on Friday, February 19, 2021, 08:48:33
To be fair this is a pretty good goal (it's labelled as him, looks vaguely like him, so assuming it's him)

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2nts4


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, February 19, 2021, 10:12:43
We nearly got Ali Dia’d

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/14088956/fake-footballer-champions-league-cska-sofia/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=sunfootballfacebook180221&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1613663268
But we did get Curranised


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, February 19, 2021, 10:25:20
But we did get Curranised
Absolutely, I would swap Curran for the fake player any day if he can score goals like that.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: pauld on Friday, February 19, 2021, 12:44:24
We nearly got Ali Dia’d

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/14088956/fake-footballer-champions-league-cska-sofia/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=sunfootballfacebook180221&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1613663268
The Scum piece is ripped off from an article in the Mail (how fucking low do you have to be to rip stuff off from the Mail FFS?) which claims "New manager Paul Sturrock refused to take him on despite pleas from the Swindon supporters". Anyone remember pleading with Sturrock to sign him? Thought not.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, February 19, 2021, 12:53:18
The Scum piece is ripped off from an article in the Mail (how fucking low do you have to be to rip stuff off from the Mail FFS?) which claims "New manager Paul Sturrock refused to take him on despite pleas from the Swindon supporters". Anyone remember pleading with Sturrock to sign him? Thought not.
Pleas? I don't even remember him being with us.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, February 19, 2021, 12:54:01
The Scum piece is ripped off from an article in the Mail (how fucking low do you have to be to rip stuff off from the Mail FFS?) which claims "New manager Paul Sturrock refused to take him on despite pleas from the Swindon supporters". Anyone remember pleading with Sturrock to sign him? Thought not.

'New Manager' suggests it was almost 15 years ago as well, fuck me the barrel is being scraped here.

I see Meghan and Harry have done something again so hopefully the media can go back to important stuff again!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Costanza on Friday, February 19, 2021, 12:57:27
Think the guy has a book out in France hence the sudden interest.

Given Anzite, Almeida and Arrieta, it's no surprise a fake footballer rocked up around the time of BEST Holdings.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: pauld on Friday, February 19, 2021, 13:02:17
Pleas? I don't even remember him being with us.
You've probably wiped it from your memory because you were so traumatised by Sturrock callously disregarding your incessant begging to sign the obvious legend in the making


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, February 19, 2021, 13:05:26
You've probably wiped it from your memory because you were so traumatised by Sturrock callously disregarding your incessant begging to sign the obvious legend in the making
You could be onto something. Booo why the hell didn't we sign him!


Title: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Batch on Friday, March 12, 2021, 16:59:16
FOOTBALL : A new goalkeeper for @Official_STFC - Lee Camp signs short-term deal until end of season #stfc

number 7!

no more emergency loans then


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Cowley38 on Friday, March 12, 2021, 17:00:46
FOOTBALL : A new goalkeeper for @Official_STFC - Lee Camp signs short-term deal until end of season #stfc

number 7!

no more emergency loans then

If we are so skint, who's financing this?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Batch on Friday, March 12, 2021, 17:01:25
quite.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Friday, March 12, 2021, 17:10:09
Very experienced goalkeeper, I’m sure he was a number 1 at Championship level last season. Shame we couldn’t bring him in last summer! At least it should stop the revolving door of 7 day loans.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, March 12, 2021, 17:17:47
Very experienced goalkeeper, I’m sure he was a number 1 at Championship level last season. Shame we couldn’t bring him in last summer! At least it should stop the revolving door of 7 day loans.

Played 36 games for Birmingham last season in the Championship.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, March 12, 2021, 17:18:10
554 games and not a single goal!

Great signing!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Red Frog on Friday, March 12, 2021, 17:38:51
FOOTBALL : A new goalkeeper for @Official_STFC - Lee Camp signs short-term deal until end of season #stfc

number 7!

no more emergency loans then

This is the best bit. A bit of shithousing is the most I can hope for right now.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, March 12, 2021, 20:29:44
Christ, Sunderland fans are giving him right pelters. Worst player in their history apparently. Like having Keith Lemon in goal is a recurring theme.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Batch on Friday, March 12, 2021, 20:31:23
but he did play 80 games for Birmingham after didn't he?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, March 12, 2021, 20:34:32
Tbf, they have a steady supply of scapegoats. Grigg is a prime example and the stick they were giving Wyke earlier in the season is a good indication of their ability awareness.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: swindonmaniac on Friday, March 12, 2021, 22:16:12
Christ, Sunderland fans are giving him right pelters. Worst player in their history apparently. Like having Keith Lemon in goal is a recurring theme.
Can't be any worse than Kovar, no-one could.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: flammableBen on Friday, March 12, 2021, 22:44:00
He's nearly not younger than me which is getting rarer in pro sports people. I like him.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Saturday, March 13, 2021, 01:09:46
Another one from my neck of the woods. I genuinely know people with very close links to Lee Camp (family specific). Particularly from his time at Derby. Not claiming to be ITK before some TEF members get their tits in a twist.

This really should call for a clubcall announcement special as it's some coup. Cracking keeper at this level. It's the kind of keeper Town should have been going for when they knew LMc was on his way out. Camp is actually an upgrade. If nothing else it brings consistency.

Say it quietly and whilst he'll have his work cut out, I can see him keeping Town in many a game, maybe even helping to achieve some more points. Which is kind of nice. Camp is also very much captain material. Be good to have a natural leader on the pitch. It will help Conroy (if still included) massively and he should learn a lot of Camp.

There's a lot of shit around atm but with a potential return of Grant back into the fold and the addition of Camp, there are some glimmers appearing from a very rancid turd.

Even diamonds start as coal lads.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, March 18, 2021, 18:19:02
Christopher Missilou has been selected to represent DR Congo for their upcoming international matches.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, March 18, 2021, 20:08:52
Christopher Missilou has been selected to represent DR Congo for their upcoming international matches.
That's good - Does that mean we'll have to struggle on without him for a bit?  ;D


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Thursday, March 18, 2021, 20:15:59
That's good - Does that mean we'll have to struggle on without him for a bit?  ;D

Certainly not. It means the DRC will have to struggle on with him for a bit.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, March 19, 2021, 09:42:20
Christopher Missilou has been selected to represent DR Congo for their upcoming international matches.

Is he going to be working as an assistant for this DR Congo character? passing him stethascopes etc, titter.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: singingiiiffy on Saturday, March 20, 2021, 23:42:48
has there been any press coverage or mentions of twines contract. Is it confirmed he is letting it run, have the club made an offer?

I think I'm right in thinking we have to offer him one to get compo in the summer if he signs for someone else. surely Power in case he still owns the club in the summer has to get this sorted quite quick.

I know so much would depend on the league we are in, from Scott pov I'm sure as well. He might fancy a bit more league 1 but im sure he will have championship offers which would be tough to turn down.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, March 21, 2021, 06:28:55
Twine is in 'contract isn't important, staying up is' mode at the moment.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, March 21, 2021, 10:15:11
Twine is in 'contract isn't important, staying up is' mode at the moment.

Which translates as 'I don't want to be playing in L2 next season, so let's see what happens first'.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, March 21, 2021, 10:32:29
Which translates as 'I don't want to be playing in L2 next season, so let's see what happens first'.
I understand this to be the truth, and rightly so.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, March 21, 2021, 11:28:27
And rightly so as he's definitely come on this season and looking a real prospect.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: JBZ on Sunday, March 21, 2021, 11:31:17
Fair play to Twine, he has greatly exceeded the TEFs expectations.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: RobertT on Sunday, March 21, 2021, 13:15:23
Fair play to Twine, he has greatly exceeded the TEFs expectations.

I am sure there are comments from me doubting his ability from a couple of years ago.  I'm still not 100% sold on him, but he has managed to develop a couple of extra tools in the past 6 months or so, not least his long range shooting ability.  He has also benefited from finding a position  I'd like to see him played in a team designed to enable him to flourish - he now looks like the sort of player that would have excelled in the Anderson role under Wellens.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: JBZ on Sunday, March 21, 2021, 13:20:01
I am sure there are comments from me doubting his ability from a couple of years ago.  I'm still not 100% sold on him, but he has managed to develop a couple of extra tools in the past 6 months or so, not least his long range shooting ability.  He has also benefited from finding a position  I'd like to see him played in a team designed to enable him to flourish - he now looks like the sort of player that would have excelled in the Anderson role under Wellens.

I am not saying I was a fan either.  The only positive thing I think I have ever said was that his performance in preseason suggested he might be worth being given a bit part in the team.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: singingiiiffy on Sunday, March 21, 2021, 14:01:44
I am not saying I was a fan either.  The only positive thing I think I have ever said was that his performance in preseason suggested he might be worth being given a bit part in the team.

the problem we have is we really have a chance to develop the young ones and be patient when we are always involved in a promotion race or a relegation battle. most matches are so important.

its been mentioned loads on here and almost none of our fans would have cared too much if he left in the summer as his cameo appearances over the last fews years haven't shown much. He has now added end product and looks a fantastic prospect. all credit to him


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: tans on Saturday, March 27, 2021, 17:41:57
Has Luke Haines left the club?

Alan McLoughlin just tweeted saying weeks after you left STFC you are at Wembley with Hereford.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Saturday, March 27, 2021, 18:20:55
Has Luke Haines left the club?

Alan McLoughlin just tweeted saying weeks after you left STFC you are at Wembley with Hereford.
I'm sure somebody on here mentioned he'd left a couple of weeks back.

Can't remember who though.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: brocklesby red on Saturday, March 27, 2021, 18:44:50
On loan I thought


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 27, 2021, 18:46:46
It was announced he left on loan but hadn't heard it was made perm.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Panda Paws on Saturday, March 27, 2021, 20:41:21
I would guess he's been told he won't get a deal in the summer.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: singingiiiffy on Tuesday, April 13, 2021, 20:50:25
tonight was it for me, finally accepted it.

without finding who is still in contract just purely on if they were available to keep. who would you keep for league 2? With a new gaffa obviously.

For me: hunt, hope, odimayo, twine, garrick, payne, broadbent, t smith, a grant maybe.  the irony that there are more non-starters than starters in my selection.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: kirky69 on Tuesday, April 13, 2021, 20:59:50
tonight was it for me, finally accepted it.

without finding who is still in contract just purely on if they were available to keep. who would you keep for league 2? With a new gaffa obviously.

For me: hunt, hope, odimayo, twine, garrick, payne, broadbent, t smith, a grant maybe.  the irony that there are more non-starters than starters in my selection.

Twine, Payne and Odimayo definitely, although expect all 3 will be sold if decent offers come in. Hunt and A Grant possibly if they can rediscover last seasons form. Garrick and T Smith as loanees will return to parent clubs. Hope not good enough. Broadbent not fussed.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, April 13, 2021, 21:08:43
I think the players that aren't playing look better than they are because the ones that are playing are so poor.

Odimayo is the only one that I think looks good long term.

A Grant, Payne and Twine if they will stay, but the latter 2 might be best to sell.
 


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Tuesday, April 13, 2021, 21:35:46
I think players like Caddis, Hunt, Grant and even Baudry can still do a job in L2. This is very much putting my "Reg" hat on but those are the kind of players who are good enough to ensure the clubs football league status is retained. Even Conroy, Fryers & Lyden for ¹/³ of a season each can bring something valuable to the table in L2 and it isn't more salt.

That's the first time, I've probably ever said that with not even one cubic micron millimetre of tongue in my cheek. The issue is with both the "regime" and the "management". Change those and the uplift in the players would be significant.

At present it's like every employee at Town is working for a company that is ignoring every H&S protocol in the book. The employees are all pretty unhappy, except for maybe the odd super old schooler or two that doesn't mind the absence of any regulations. Yet even for them, there are no pension prospects and they are being asked by the owner to utilise inexperienced employees on the payroll, for duties well beyond their pay grade. The fact that they haven't even passed any competencies let alone have any relevant qualifications is also dismissed. Everything is surrounded by an unanswered air of uncertainty. Even the owner of the business is vacant, some employees have never even seen or met him. One or two know him personally (like a Director's nephew as an intern) but doesn't speak about any of it. He knows he's probably being paid more than some of the experienced employees.

There is zero HR (love them or loathe them), there is no one to take accountability. The business just muddles through because it's thankfully been around for a long time - but even now, it is considering permanent closure...right after the owner gets just one more payday.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, April 13, 2021, 23:52:14
tonight was it for me, finally accepted it.

without finding who is still in contract just purely on if they were available to keep. who would you keep for league 2? With a new gaffa obviously.

For me: hunt, hope, odimayo, twine, garrick, payne, broadbent, t smith, a grant maybe.  the irony that there are more non-starters than starters in my selection.

Grant, Twine and Pitman


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 02:58:00
Pitman? Jeez!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 06:05:09
I think players like Caddis, Hunt, Grant and even Baudry can still do a job in L2. This is very much putting my "Reg" hat on but those are the kind of players who are good enough to ensure the clubs football league status is retained. Even Conroy, Fryers & Lyden for ¹/³ of a season each can bring something valuable to the table in L2 and it isn't more salt.

That's the first time, I've probably ever said that with not even one cubic micron millimetre of tongue in my cheek. The issue is with both the "regime" and the "management". Change those and the uplift in the players would be significant.

At present it's like every employee at Town is working for a company that is ignoring every H&S protocol in the book. The employees are all pretty unhappy, except for maybe the odd super old schooler or two that doesn't mind the absence of any regulations. Yet even for them, there are no pension prospects and they are being asked by the owner to utilise inexperienced employees on the payroll, for duties well beyond their pay grade. The fact that they haven't even passed any competencies let alone have any relevant qualifications is also dismissed. Everything is surrounded by an unanswered air of uncertainty. Even the owner of the business is vacant, some employees have never even seen or met him. One or two know him personally (like a Director's nephew as an intern) but doesn't speak about any of it. He knows he's probably being paid more than some of the experienced employees.

There is zero HR (love them or loathe them), there is no one to take accountability. The business just muddles through because it's thankfully been around for a long time - but even now, it is considering permanent closure...right after the owner gets just one more payday.

Very well summarised.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 08:18:33
I think players like Caddis, Hunt, Grant and even Baudry can still do a job in L2. This is very much putting my "Reg" hat on but those are the kind of players who are good enough to ensure the clubs football league status is retained. Even Conroy, Fryers & Lyden for ¹/³ of a season each can bring something valuable to the table in L2 and it isn't more salt.

That's the first time, I've probably ever said that with not even one cubic micron millimetre of tongue in my cheek. The issue is with both the "regime" and the "management". Change those and the uplift in the players would be significant.

At present it's like every employee at Town is working for a company that is ignoring every H&S protocol in the book. The employees are all pretty unhappy, except for maybe the odd super old schooler or two that doesn't mind the absence of any regulations. Yet even for them, there are no pension prospects and they are being asked by the owner to utilise inexperienced employees on the payroll, for duties well beyond their pay grade. The fact that they haven't even passed any competencies let alone have any relevant qualifications is also dismissed. Everything is surrounded by an unanswered air of uncertainty. Even the owner of the business is vacant, some employees have never even seen or met him. One or two know him personally (like a Director's nephew as an intern) but doesn't speak about any of it. He knows he's probably being paid more than some of the experienced employees.

There is zero HR (love them or loathe them), there is no one to take accountability. The business just muddles through because it's thankfully been around for a long time - but even now, it is considering permanent closure...right after the owner gets just one more payday.

Good post Bamboo.

Don't forget there is also the handicap of being forced to play a CB completely unfit for work. What on earth must the other players think when he's bumbling around the pitch not even putting in anything like 60% effort in a fucking relegation dogfight? It would be something that he put in 100% whenever he is on the pitch, but we aren't even getting that. Its just half-hearted, and that is being generous.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Panda Paws on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 08:26:18
There are plenty of players here that are more than good enough for League 2, and arguably League 1. I honestly can't overstate how much they're being mismanaged, both from a footballing and operations POV.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 08:30:36
Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett Pitman, Brett Pitman? Jeez!

Pitman will get goals if you provide him with service.
Assuming whoever has the say on who stays -  plans to try and provide their strikers with goal scoring chances - then he’s worth keeping.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 08:34:23
I think players like Caddis, Hunt, Grant and even Baudry can still do a job in L2. This is very much putting my "Reg" hat on but those are the kind of players who are good enough to ensure the clubs football league status is retained. Even Conroy, Fryers & Lyden for ¹/³ of a season each can bring something valuable to the table in L2 and it isn't more salt.

That's the first time, I've probably ever said that with not even one cubic micron millimetre of tongue in my cheek. The issue is with both the "regime" and the "management". Change those and the uplift in the players would be significant.

At present it's like every employee at Town is working for a company that is ignoring every H&S protocol in the book. The employees are all pretty unhappy, except for maybe the odd super old schooler or two that doesn't mind the absence of any regulations. Yet even for them, there are no pension prospects and they are being asked by the owner to utilise inexperienced employees on the payroll, for duties well beyond their pay grade. The fact that they haven't even passed any competencies let alone have any relevant qualifications is also dismissed. Everything is surrounded by an unanswered air of uncertainty. Even the owner of the business is vacant, some employees have never even seen or met him. One or two know him personally (like a Director's nephew as an intern) but doesn't speak about any of it. He knows he's probably being paid more than some of the experienced employees.

There is zero HR (love them or loathe them), there is no one to take accountability. The business just muddles through because it's thankfully been around for a long time - but even now, it is considering permanent closure...right after the owner gets just one more payday.

Apart from A Grant they’ve all shown they haven’t got mentality for a fight, to keep their heads up when the going gets tough.

If off field activities mean we start with minus points (or even if we are just extremely shit) I wouldnt back the likes of Caddis, Hunt, Baudry, Fryers etc to lead us through the trenches.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 08:35:51
There are plenty of players here that are more than good enough for League 2, and arguably League 1. I honestly can't overstate how much they're being mismanaged, both from a footballing and operations POV.

This.

Look at Conroy. We know he's a class player at this level on his day and him playing shit lately doesn't change that. He'd be superb in L2. If he's fit, of course.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 08:37:47
This.

Look at Conroy. We know he's a class player at this level on his day and him playing shit lately doesn't change that. He'd be superb in L2. If he's fit, of course.

Look at Conroy, he’s injured.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 08:38:46
Look at Conroy, he’s injured.

I refer you to the last 5 words of my comment.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 08:42:23
Talking of ‘injuries’ what’s the deal with Odimayo?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Boeta on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 08:49:09
Last night's team was the first time I felt we had a terrible team on paper (not just on the pitch).

For much of the season, I felt we've had the players to get results, but not the management capable of getting a tune out of them.

Until the management (ownership and coaching staff) is sorted then who the players are is irrelevant


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Panda Paws on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 09:01:53
Talking of ‘injuries’ what’s the deal with Odimayo?

Travelled with the squad yesterday and then didn't feature, which seems yet another weird decision.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 09:37:33
I hope we sign Camp on a longer deal with Wollacott or similar as backup.

Whichever division we are in hes going to be in for a busy season and he has shown he is capable of stopping most things thrown at him when the defence opens like the Red Sea in front of him.

Up to 2 games ago I thought we had some decent players at the club, but whether its incompetant tactics, motivation or just plain effort the number of players that I consider good enough has eroded considerably.

The management must take the bulk of the blame for team selection and tactics but these players must take a long hard look at themselves and decide that even if we want (or can afford) them next season if they want to be part of the club because on that evidence most obviously don't want to be here.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: jevs on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 09:49:23
Last night's team was the first time I felt we had a terrible team on paper (not just on the pitch).

For much of the season, I felt we've had the players to get results, but not the management capable of getting a tune out of them.

Until the management (ownership and coaching staff) is sorted then who the players are is irrelevant

I admire some posters optimism, but I agree with the first sentence. Better management may have made this team less awful, and we may have picked up more points but this is a dire squad with an awful defence, ineffective midfield utterly lacking in creativity, and woeful options up front. Being honest, in the most part we have the players we do as no one else wants them, if they did, they'd have been sold like Freeman and Jaiyesimi.

Camp and Grant are capable but at the tail end of long careers, Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett Pitman, Brett Pitman hasn't got to double figures in goals scored since 18/19 (plus that is ALL he does) and has the mobility of an iceberg. Conroy may have the ability, but is injured more than he's available, see also Lyden and Baudrieu; we definitely cannot afford this type of player as they mean you need a bigger squad and lower quality overall. J Grant's barely got a game even with our lack of strikers. I'm going to shut up, I'm depressing myself.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: theakston2k on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 09:53:34
I hope we sign Camp on a longer deal with Wollacott or similar as backup.

Whichever division we are in hes going to be in for a busy season and he has shown he is capable of stopping most things thrown at him when the defence opens like the Red Sea in front of him.

Up to 2 games ago I thought we had some decent players at the club, but whether its incompetant tactics, motivation or just plain effort the number of players that I consider good enough has eroded considerably.

The management must take the bulk of the blame for team selection and tactics but these players must take a long hard look at themselves and decide that even if we want (or can afford) them next season if they want to be part of the club because on that evidence most obviously don't want to be here.
I'd imagine most are just going through the motions now and just looking forward to getting out in the summer, must be embarrassing to be a part of the club at the moment with all the off field crap. Doubt its escaped any of their radars that even if we did enough to stay up there's a strong possibility it wouldn't be enough so even if it is just subconsciously I doubt they are all at 100% effort.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 10:03:25
I hope we sign Camp on a longer deal with Wollacott or similar as backup.

Whichever division we are in hes going to be in for a busy season and he has shown he is capable of stopping most things thrown at him when the defence opens like the Red Sea in front of him.

Up to 2 games ago I thought we had some decent players at the club, but whether its incompetant tactics, motivation or just plain effort the number of players that I consider good enough has eroded considerably.

The management must take the bulk of the blame for team selection and tactics but these players must take a long hard look at themselves and decide that even if we want (or can afford) them next season if they want to be part of the club because on that evidence most obviously don't want to be here.

I put a lot of it down to mentality.
They haven’t got the balls for a scrap. They aren’t interested and know they’ll live to fight another day, even if the club doesn’t.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 10:03:55
Same thing happened under Wilson.
Decent players, poor mentality


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Red Frog on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 10:03:58
In this respect, we really need the FA probe and sanctions to move quickly. Given that Power is having trouble funding costs until the end of this season, you'd have to think he's either actively involved in trying to sell the club, or holding out to cash in on a couple of players for one last payday to staunch his losses.

If we go into the summer without a change in ownership and a potential points penalty, then next year's campaign's going to make this one look like the Champions League.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: theakston2k on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 10:07:03
In this respect, we really need the FA probe and sanctions to move quickly. Given that Power is having trouble funding costs until the end of this season, you'd have to think he's either actively involved in trying to sell the club, or holding out to cash in on a couple of players for one last payday to staunch his losses.

If we go into the summer without a change in ownership and a potential points penalty, then next year's campaign's going to make this one look like the Champions League.
There's also the question of when wages start becoming an issue or he just stops paying people.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 10:11:58
Same thing happened under Wilson.
Decent players, poor mentality
Indeed, wins do breed confidence and visa versa. I just think several don't have the bottle for a relegation fight, at least consistantly.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Crackity Jones on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 10:16:30
It's difficult to judge the squad in the current environment. Looking at it from the perspective of an employee of a business:

They are employed by a company with a radio silent owner that is under investigation by the relevant authorities.

 The owner has failed to acknowledge or address the incompetence of one of his direct reports; their manager.

They are working for a manager who is putting them in roles that they don't have the necessary skills for. They are not being effectively trained in those roles.

Their manager doesnt treat all his employees the same. He appears to instill a blame culture for some and not others.

I could go on and on but it's not surprising the squad are not performing.  


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 10:18:24
Same thing happened under Wilson.
Decent players, poor mentality
I was saying this the other day although that team would absolutely hammer this one i think


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 10:22:00
It's difficult to judge the squad in the current environment. Looking at it from the perspective of an employee of a business:

They are employed by a company with a radio silent owner that is under investigation by the relevant authorities.

 The owner has failed to acknowledge or address the incompetence of one of his direct reports; their manager.

They are working for a manager who is putting them in roles that they don't have the necessary skills for. They are not being effectively trained in those roles.

Their manager doesnt treat all his employees the same. He appears to instill a blame culture for some and not others.

I could go on and on but it's not surprising the squad are not performing.  

I'm in this boat as well to be honest. The working conditions are just not up to anything like an acceptable standard. I'm amazed half the players can even be arsed to play at the moment. I am sure nearly all of them are counting down to their contracts being up so they can get a contract at somewhere functioning remotely like a football club.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: jevs on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 10:24:00
I was saying this the other day although that team would absolutely hammer this one i think

Doesn't look that decent looking back, especially once you take Austin out. What that season does prove is how much more popular a CE/owner is if they communicate, even when they're crap. Broadly speaking I'd say that Fitton is looked on positively by Town fans despite that season's unnecessary relegation, selling and not replacing Austin, and appointing both Malpas and Hart

http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/Squad.asp?Current=YES&Season=2010-2011


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 10:31:09
I’d take Lucas or Smith - Amankwaah, Cuthert, Flint, Kennedy over every defence we’ve put out this season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: jevs on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 10:43:04
I’d take Lucas or Smith - Amankwaah, Cuthert, Flint, Kennedy over every defence we’ve put out this season.

Maybe, Flint only signed in the January and went back out on loan though, and I seem to remember Cuthbert being crap without Greer. I struggle to decide between Pitman + 1 and Pericard and Dossevi as a front pairing


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Formerly Drummer Boy on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 11:03:53
Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett Pitman, Brett Pitman will get goals if you provide him with service.
Assuming whoever has the say on who stays -  plans to try and provide their strikers with goal scoring chances - then he’s worth keeping.

Agree. Give Pitman the service in League Two, he will destroy teams next season.

Build a team around Camp, Odimayo, Payne and Pitman next season and that will have a lot of potential to do well.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Formerly Drummer Boy on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 11:06:08
Who's it up that when you type Pit.man, it automatically converts to Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett Pitman, Brett Pitman ...?  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 11:06:16
I somehow don't think Payne will be here next season


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Formerly Drummer Boy on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 11:07:49
I somehow don't think Payne will be here next season

What makes you think that? If Sheridan says he's got a lot to work on but tries the hardest out of the lot of them to improve. He's not exactly been dynamite in this League. Average L1 player, Great L2 player at this point IMO


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 11:10:33
What makes you think that? If Sheridan says he's got a lot to work on but tries the hardest out of the lot of them to improve. He's not exactly been dynamite in this League. Average L1 player, Great L2 player at this point IMO

Average league one player in a white team with interest from championship clubs. I'll let you work that out.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 11:16:44
Maybe, Flint only signed in the January and went back out on loan though, and I seem to remember Cuthbert being crap without Greer. I struggle to decide between Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett Pitman, Brett Pitman + 1 and Pericard and Dossevi as a front pairing

Id still wager just signed from non league Flint would have been better than the garbage we’ve had at centre back this season.
We also had Sean Morrison till January.

Cuthbert was crap without Greer (selling him for me ranks #2 in our worst ever transfer decisions) but I’d still rate crap Cuthbert over any of the garbage we’ve had at centre back this season.

Pitman with McGovern and Richtie on the wings probably scores for a fun.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 11:18:16
I'm not sure how long Pitman signed for but wages could be an issue


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 11:19:30
Agree. Give Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett Pitman, Brett Pitman the service in League Two, he will destroy teams next season.
Do you really think he's got another season in him? Have to say I'd assumed he'd be retiring in the summer


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 11:21:33
Do you really think he's got another season in him? Have to say I'd assumed he'd be retiring in the summer

What, before he loses his pace and mobility?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Panda Paws on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 11:22:46
Even in this awful side, and given the points everyone has made about management, Brett has more often than not been absolutely useless at everything except clearing defensive set-pieces. He's very good at that.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 11:22:55
Do you really think he's got another season in him? Have to say I'd assumed he'd be retiring in the summer

Difficult to say. He's never been the quickest and has done quite well overall using other attributes instead so he might have longer in him than other players who are more reliant on speed.

And, again, I'm not going to judge a player under this manager. (Except for Curran who is clearly not up to it)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 11:32:04
Even in this awful side, and given the points everyone has made about management, Brett has more often than not been absolutely useless at everything except clearing defensive set-pieces. He's very good at that.


Pitman has a kept a scoring rate of 1 in 3 for his entire career.
If nothing else, he knows where the goal is.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 11:36:01
Thing is there are very few in contract anyway, so will depend who actually wants to stay and/or we can afford to make offers to.

As it stands I don't think we have any keeper contracted beyond the summer, in defence its only Baudry, Curran, Fryers, Hunt and Iandolo.

Midfield Lyden and Payne and up top no one.

Of those I think all could do a job in lg 2 whilst if we get knocked down to the National League Curran might have a chance.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 11:37:24
Agree. Give Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett Pitman, Brett Pitman the service in League Two, he will destroy teams next season.

Build a team around Camp, Odimayo, Payne and Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett Pitman, Brett Pitman next season and that will have a lot of potential to do well.

No chance is he capable of doing a decent job in league two.
He is finished and has been a poor signing.
Compounded by comparing him to Yates a few games back, the gulf in class frightening.
A few non league players would do a far better job stepping up a level in my opinion.
Would be one player I would peddle at the end of this season, offers nothing.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Power to people on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 11:44:30
No chance is he capable of doing a decent job in league two.
He is finished and has been a poor signing.
Compounded by comparing him to Yates a few games back, the gulf in class frightening.
A few non league players would do a far better job stepping up a level in my opinion.
Would be one player I would peddle at the end of this season, offers nothing.

I'm not sure what he would be like with a partner alongside him, at times he looks like he has goals in him but he needs to be fit and lose weight, I think it would depend what sort of wage he commands, if he is one of the higher earners then I'd bin him, if he was middle of the road then maybe give him a go in L2 where he has to fight for his place in the team.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 11:54:37
No chance is he capable of doing a decent job in league two.
He is finished and has been a poor signing.
Compounded by comparing him to Yates a few games back, the gulf in class frightening.
A few non league players would do a far better job stepping up a level in my opinion.
Would be one player I would peddle at the end of this season, offers nothing.

I know I keep on banging on about it but I think it's a tad short-sighted to be judging players under this manager. It honestly surprises me that so many people do it. Pitman has a very good scoring record overall in the bottom 2 leagues. His age is a consideration, but other than that...


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: jevs on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 12:03:18
I know I keep on banging on about it but I think it's a tad short-sighted to be judging players under this manager. It honestly surprises me that so many people do it. Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett Pitman, Brett Pitman has a very good scoring record overall in the bottom 2 leagues. His age is a consideration, but other than that...

For a player that immobile to be worth carrying he'd need to be scoring what 15 + a season. He's only done that once in a decade.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 12:13:46
What, before he loses his pace and mobility?
That's an extremely good point. I look forward to continuing to enjoy watching him well into the 2030s


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Formerly Drummer Boy on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 12:16:04
Average league one player in a white team with interest from championship clubs. I'll let you work that out.

soapy tit wank. Do you honestly believe Championship teams are actually actively interested or was it more of an agent doing a bit of marketing for his client?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Formerly Drummer Boy on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 12:20:54
I'm not sure what he would be like with a partner alongside him, at times he looks like he has goals in him but he needs to be fit and lose weight, I think it would depend what sort of wage he commands, if he is one of the higher earners then I'd bin him, if he was middle of the road then maybe give him a go in L2 where he has to fight for his place in the team.


Does anyone remember Doyle running? He looked like a penguin running through treacle at times but with the right service, banged in a fair few. Moneyball logic here.. Pitman has started 22 league games and scored 8 with fuck all service in League One, League Two with someone who can actually cross or play the ball with half decent accuracy.. He easily stands a chance of 20+ goals IMO


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: jevs on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 12:31:40
I know I keep on banging on about it but I think it's a tad short-sighted to be judging players under this manager. It honestly surprises me that so many people do it. Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett Pitman, Brett Pitman has a very good scoring record overall in the bottom 2 leagues. His age is a consideration, but other than that...

Not wising to be argumentative, but (some) of these players were also shit under Wellens this season, and I recall the FA Cup game under Hunt. Although Sheridan was a rank bad appointment he's soaking up everyone's blame here, and there's plenty to spread around. I don't think he was responsible for Caddis and Pitman both starting the season visibly overweight for example.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: JoeMezz on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 12:37:19
Does anyone remember Doyle running? He looked like a penguin running through treacle at times but with the right service, banged in a fair few. Moneyball logic here.. Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett Pitman, Brett Pitman has started 22 league games and scored 8 with fuck all service in League One, League Two with someone who can actually cross or play the ball with half decent accuracy.. He easily stands a chance of 20+ goals IMO

Doyle ran his nuts off all game, harsh to say he didn’t run much. Also he made movements to the front post frequently, which is a big reason why he scored so many. Pitman hides at the back post


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Post by: Crackity Jones on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 12:39:29
Not wising to be argumentative, but (some) of these players were also shit under Wellens this season, and I recall the FA Cup game under Hunt. Although Sheridan was a rank bad appointment he's soaking up everyone's blame here, and there's plenty to spread around. I don't think he was responsible for Caddis and Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett Pitman, Brett Pitman both starting the season visibly overweight for example.
Brett Pitman was in the Pompey bomb squad and hadn't trained with the first team or played a run of competitive games for an age.  To expect him to hit the ground running (no pun intended) was never going to happen. I agree with a few others - he knows where the goal is if he is played to his strengths- like wellens did with Doyle.  
 


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 12:53:02
All our debate matters not a jot - Curran is contracted for next season.  That single fact underlines the situation we find ourselves in as a club.  That needs sorting and fast, which requires someone to apply pressure to Power, and I see that as tough.  He has two very big reasons to cling on - first, he has a football club as an emotional/community Trojan Horse to get the horse grounds and housing money he needs.  Second, he can't sell right now without giving some of the money directly to Standing, who would otherwise object.  If he holds out for the Court Case, he might win and Standing would have no say in a sale.  Power gets the cash upfront and can decide to stiff Standing over the deal they have around % of proceeds.  Standing merely becomes a creditor, or Barry.

He is going nowhere.

Standing will have known his Court case would prompt FA scrutiny, so he clearly thinks it is worth it financially to stitch us and Power up anyway.

Despite Flashearts optimism, I see no good news coming before next season unless one of those two facts changes considerably.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 12:55:40
Does anyone remember Doyle running? He looked like a penguin running through treacle at times but with the right service, banged in a fair few. Moneyball logic here.. Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett Pitman, Brett Pitman has started 22 league games and scored 8 with fuck all service in League One, League Two with someone who can actually cross or play the ball with half decent accuracy.. He easily stands a chance of 20+ goals IMO

Doyle could run, Pitman struggles to run.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: jevs on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 12:59:53
Brett Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett Pitman, Brett Pitman was in the Pompey bomb squad and hadn't trained with the first team or played a run of competitive games for an age.  To expect him to hit the ground running (no pun intended) was never going to happen. I agree with a few others - he knows where the goal is if he is played to his strengths- like wellens did with Doyle.  
 

No idea whose responsible, but a player has some responsibility for their own fitness & I recall Wellens saying that he might have made a mistake with Pitman. If he had some life left in him he would have gone to a club with more ambition - by the time we signed him we were scratching around for strikers after anyone worth signing had gone. Yep, he scored a few, 8 is it? Hallam Hope has also scored 6 in 20 (that was Wilki so could be bollocks!) and I doubt many want him kept.

He's a natural finisher, and should have been played as part of a 2 up front but he's not a player at this stage of his career to build your team around - and that's what you'd have to do to make a success of it. If you want a high press for example, how is that going to work? Nor is he capable of running channels, or onto a through ball, or to beat someone for pace etc etc.

I don't agree with the comparison to Doyle's movement, which was & is far, far better. I imagine (though don't have stats) that he covers far more ground, far more quickly than Pitman.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Crackity Jones on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 13:04:29


I don't agree with the comparison to Doyle's movement, which was & is far, far better. I imagine (though don't have stats) that he covers far more ground, far more quickly than Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett Pitman, Brett Pitman.
[/quote] I am not making any comparison with Doyle's movement. I am saying play to BPs strengths - like wellens played to Doyles strengths.  BP has never run in his entire career so we can't expect him to start now he's at the arse end of it.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: jevs on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 13:12:08

I don't agree with the comparison to Doyle's movement, which was & is far, far better. I imagine (though don't have stats) that he covers far more ground, far more quickly than Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett Pitman, Brett Pitman, Brett Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett Pitman, Brett Pitman.
 I am not making any comparison with Doyle's movement. I am saying play to BPs strengths - like wellens played to Doyles strengths.  BP has never run in his entire career so we can't expect him to start now he's at the arse end of it.

That wasn't directed at you - I think someone made a comparison between the two earlier & for me Doyle's movement was fine, he put a shift in.

While we had/have Pitman on the pitch, I agree we should play to his strengths. My issue, such as it is, is that as he's 33 and has got over 15 goals a season once in the last decade so isn't worth basing your set up on, which would be what's needed.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 13:51:51
All our debate matters not a jot - Curran is contracted for next season. 

And the season after that!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Formerly Drummer Boy on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 14:46:45

I don't agree with the comparison to Doyle's movement, which was & is far, far better. I imagine (though don't have stats) that he covers far more ground, far more quickly than Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett Pitman, Brett Pitman, Brett Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett Pitman, Brett Pitman.
 I am not making any comparison with Doyle's movement. I am saying play to BPs strengths - like wellens played to Doyles strengths.  BP has never run in his entire career so we can't expect him to start now he's at the arse end of it.

Maybe we’re comparing apples and pears here? The style of play and the team around Doyle and now Pitman is vastly different.

For me, the question comes down to could Pitman get 20 goals in League two next season? IMO, yes.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: NotHarryAgombar on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 15:22:56
One issue which has hit us hard this season is the number of players with poor injury records. We got away with this in L2 last year, but in a full season, compressed so there are games most Tuesdays, they are either injured or having to play too much too quickly after coming back, getting injured again.
This list includes Baudry, Fryers, Conroy, iandolo and Lyden.

It worries me that at least 4 of the above are among most people’s list of the few worth keeping.

A Grant can extend his career by a couple of years by moving to centre back - similar to what Bostwick did elsewhere - and Payne, Twine, Camp and Odimayo would all be worth having next year. I’m less convinced by Caddis - his experience could be valuable, but if he didn’t have his previous history with us would we really be saying keep him? Palmer might be ok in league 2.
Most of the loanees aren’t worth keeping , along with Pitman, J Grant, Broadbent can all go (how did J Grant get on before Garrick last night? Also was Broadbent put up front when we had two strikers on the bench?)

A big overhaul is required.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 15:27:24
All our debate matters not a jot - Curran is contracted for next season.  That single fact underlines the situation we find ourselves in as a club.  That needs sorting and fast, which requires someone to apply pressure to Power, and I see that as tough.  He has two very big reasons to cling on - first, he has a football club as an emotional/community Trojan Horse to get the horse grounds and housing money he needs.  Second, he can't sell right now without giving some of the money directly to Standing, who would otherwise object.  If he holds out for the Court Case, he might win and Standing would have no say in a sale.  Power gets the cash upfront and can decide to stiff Standing over the deal they have around % of proceeds.  Standing merely becomes a creditor, or Barry.

He is going nowhere.

Standing will have known his Court case would prompt FA scrutiny, so he clearly thinks it is worth it financially to stitch us and Power up anyway.

Despite Flashearts optimism, I see no good news coming before next season unless one of those two facts changes considerably.
There is no way it goes to court. I think we will see soon that an agreement is made out of court


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 15:34:14
There is no way it goes to court. I think we will see soon that an agreement is made out of court
I think you're right. Bloody hope so.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 15:44:42
There is no way it goes to court. I think we will see soon that an agreement is made out of court

I am not really sure what Power hopes to achieve, he has already admitted that he owes someone and the main argument seems to be whether he owes Barry or Standing, the whole thing is just bloody odd.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 15:56:55
I am not really sure what Power hopes to achieve, he has already admitted that he owes someone and the main argument seems to be whether he owes Barry or Standing, the whole thing is just bloody odd.
Delay, I presume


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: swindonmaniac on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 16:25:14
And the season after that!
Unless someone comes in with a bid for him.   :D :D :D


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Wednesday, April 14, 2021, 18:05:46
Maybe we’re comparing apples and pears here? The style of play and the team around Doyle and now Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett Pitman, Brett Pitman is vastly different.

For me, the question comes down to could Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett Pitman, Brett Pitman get 20 goals in League two next season? IMO, yes.

Maybe comparing Apples & Pears or maybe you mean comparing Apples & Oranges (as they are a totally different genus to the Apple)  :hmmm:

Anyway, really shouldn't we be comparing Pork & Pear when referencing the aspic coated wonder? If that is the case then Pork & Pear compliments each other beautifully  so I see a blossoming and fruitful relationship  :D


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, May 1, 2021, 10:31:47
Has anything been said about the youth scholars and first year pros yet? I'd assume no news on that front is probably bad news with the general financial situation, but think we'd normally have heard by now? Guess a couple of them may show up in the squad for today if they've not been released.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, May 1, 2021, 11:52:38
Has anything been said about the youth scholars and first year pros yet? I'd assume no news on that front is probably bad news with the general financial situation, but think we'd normally have heard by now? Guess a couple of them may show up in the squad for today if they've not been released.
AFAIK only Parsons has been kept on the rest have been told to find new clubs.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, May 4, 2021, 17:59:45
I heard from somebody close to the club at the weekend that Payne has activated his relegation release clause - so any conversations about Payne tearing up league 2 can be put to one side.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 4, 2021, 18:03:05
not a suprise.

do we get any compo, or is it effectively putting him on a free?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, May 4, 2021, 18:17:00
not a suprise.

do we get any compo, or is it effectively putting him on a free?

A "No Payne, No gain" clause?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, May 4, 2021, 18:20:43
Happy to see him go to be honest. I think he tried, but he isnt that great. If he was the highest paid player, then it frees up some cash for someone a bit better perhaps?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Crackity Jones on Tuesday, May 4, 2021, 18:29:58
Happy to see him go to be honest. I think he tried, but he isnt that great. If he was the highest paid player, then it frees up some cash for someone a bit better perhaps?
Agree with this. No great loss in my view


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, May 4, 2021, 18:32:47
I mean if you don't think Payne is a loss, you can't think anyone in our squad is, right? He's been comfortably better than everyone in the squad bar maybe Twine and Odimayo.

Fair enough if you don't care if any of this lot leave given how they've been this season but the list of players who've played better than Payne this season in this squad is... short to non existent.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, May 4, 2021, 18:36:35
He was one of our better players and could have been a force in L2 under the right manager.

A shame, but to be expected.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Crackity Jones on Tuesday, May 4, 2021, 18:42:21
I mean if you don't think Payne is a loss, you can't think anyone in our squad is, right? He's been comfortably better than everyone in the squad bar maybe Twine and Odimayo.

Fair enough if you don't care if any of this lot leave given how they've been this season but the list of players who've played better than Payne this season in this squad is... short to non existent.
Yep. 


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, May 4, 2021, 20:04:24
A trier, has something, but no idea where to play him has been the general theme for Payne.  I liked Isgrove more than him, which maybe says something about the squad these days vs a year ago.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Ginginho on Wednesday, May 5, 2021, 05:34:12
A "No Payne, No gain" clause?

 :D


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Wednesday, May 5, 2021, 06:26:20
I mean if you don't think Payne is a loss, you can't think anyone in our squad is, right? He's been comfortably better than everyone in the squad bar maybe Twine and Odimayo.

Fair enough if you don't care if any of this lot leave given how they've been this season but the list of players who've played better than Payne this season in this squad is... short to non existent.

Every single one of them can get to fuck. Awful squad.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Wednesday, May 5, 2021, 06:31:26
I mean if you don't think Payne is a loss, you can't think anyone in our squad is, right? He's been comfortably better than everyone in the squad bar maybe Twine and Odimayo.

Fair enough if you don't care if any of this lot leave given how they've been this season but the list of players who've played better than Payne this season in this squad is... short to non existent.
It's a very bad midfield. Payne looks better than he is because of it. I'd keep Grant in L2 and Lyden on a pay as you play, by none of the others. Odimayo is the only player I would be sad to lose. Twine will likely be snapped up, so little point considering him.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 5, 2021, 09:12:34
I think only Camp, Twine, Payne, Odimayo and A Grant would be the only ones I would want to keep next season and then not overly bothered about any of them TBH.

I think Grant can be a force still if he plays in midfield in L2, Odimayo is definately one for the future and would be upset if he left, Twine has fits and starts, the last month hes been woeful but then most have bar Payne. Camp has proved to be a solid L1 stopper so should be fine in L2.

Pitman if played in the right role can still be a force but again not bothered at all if he leaves.

Conroy too has shown some good and some bad, the bad may be down to fitness concerns but again if he leaves I won't be overly upset.

The rest of them though...let them all leave they are either not up to standard or too injury prone despite being fairly talented (Fryers and Lyden spring to mind also possibly Iandolo who hit a small vein of form for 2 games at CB, all wasted wages for much of the season with only 25 starts between them all season the rest being injured).


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Tails on Wednesday, May 5, 2021, 09:15:33
From the permanent players I'd keep Hunt, Missilou, Grant and Payne. Rest can sod off.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 5, 2021, 09:17:12
From the permanent players I'd keep Hunt, Missilou, Grant and Payne. Rest can sod off.
Ah I forgot about Hunt, yes I would keep him, can't say I agree about Missilou though he has looked appalling at times and only had one good game away at Fleetwood. I think it was his hair weave that he had that day that made him so good :)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, May 5, 2021, 09:47:15
Ah I forgot about Hunt, yes I would keep him, can't say I agree about Missilou though he has looked appalling at times and only had one good game away at Fleetwood. I think it was his hair weave that he had that day that made him so good :)

Missilou is an odd one and I have a sneaking suspicion that he might actually be a handy player in L2. Hunt has been mainly poor but gets a pass based on his good showing in L2 last season.

I think its a big shame Payne won't be with us next season, he would have absolutely had a field day in the bottom division.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, May 5, 2021, 09:52:32
Odimayo, Grant, Twine & Pitman

Camp has done well buts he’s obviously not a long term solution.
The rest have not just been awful on the pitch but have shown they don’t have the mentality to fight. They should all be let go/move on/shot


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: tans on Tuesday, May 11, 2021, 18:17:12
Conroy has just said on the supporters club facebook awards thing that he has another year


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: hefty toe on Tuesday, May 11, 2021, 19:02:53
Conroy has just said on the supporters club facebook awards thing that he has another year

Oh dear. 3 injury prone centre backs under contract for next season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, May 11, 2021, 19:12:32
Sounds like Payne has a release clause too.

Great.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: tans on Tuesday, May 11, 2021, 19:25:34
Yeah he said on the OSC awards thing, but did say it doesnt necessairly mean he is leaving. Got a house in Swindon and wants to settle somewhere, hasnt spoken to his agent yet.

*announces move next week then*


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Tuesday, May 11, 2021, 19:27:19
I don't think I've ever looked forward to the release of the retained list as much as this one.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Tuesday, May 11, 2021, 19:56:55
When is it due out?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, May 11, 2021, 20:02:46
I think all lists have to be submitted to the EFL before May 20... or something like that.

So any time before then.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, May 12, 2021, 07:57:22
Sounds like Payne has a release clause too.

Great.

He has already triggered it so I hear - he won't be here next season


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Crispy on Wednesday, May 12, 2021, 08:04:12
Pitman is off down the M4 to Rovers  :bye:


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, May 12, 2021, 08:08:18
Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett Pitman, Brett Pitman is off down the M4 to Rovers  :bye:

If he starts running now he might just get there for the opening game of next season.
Buggered if they are away though!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, May 12, 2021, 08:18:52
Whilst for most of the season he looked like a lumbering, shell of a striker he did somehow manage to score a dozen goals for an absolutely shambolic side. He's obviously not in good shape and is 33, but in league 2 I reckon he's probably good for 20 goals next season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, May 12, 2021, 08:20:40
If he starts running now he might just get there for the opening game of next season.
Buggered if they are away though!

If he starts running now, I'll be a bit miffed considering he hasn't run all season!

Would be happy to see Pitman leave. I do think he'll score goals in L2 but don't think he'll score enough to be worth the effect on the team caused by his lack of mobility, which restricts any chance of pressing from the front etc.

In many ways he's a bit like Mitrovic at Fulham - an eye for goal but so immobile that he didn't fit in with the way they wanted to play at all.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Wednesday, May 12, 2021, 08:32:33
BP was a qualified success I guess.
Twelve goals wasn't bad but could have been more. Hiding at the back post most of the time didn't help.
Not his fault that he was clearly not suited to play as a lone central striker.
If only there was an energetic young striker available that could have played alongside.

Displayed the body language of frustration very well though.
And must be in the top 5 of slowest Town players ever.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, May 12, 2021, 08:35:52
If he starts running now, I'll be a bit miffed considering he hasn't run all season!

Would be happy to see Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett Pitman, Brett Pitman leave. I do think he'll score goals in L2 but don't think he'll score enough to be worth the effect on the team caused by his lack of mobility, which restricts any chance of pressing from the front etc.

In many ways he's a bit like Mitrovic at Fulham - an eye for goal but so immobile that he didn't fit in with the way they wanted to play at all.

That's a pretty good comparison actually. I haven't seen any Prem football all season, but do have friends that are Brentford and Fulham fans so keep up to date with what is going on at either clubs and Mitrovic's contribution this season, for such a good striker is pretty feeble.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Frigby Daser on Wednesday, May 12, 2021, 08:38:04
Just clear out and start again. There’s nobody here that I would be devastated to lose. That even goes for last season’s solid performers (Lyden, Grant, Conroy, Baudry and Fryers) - who are clearly good enough but not if they’re sat at home.

Edit: apart from Twine and Odimayo.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, May 12, 2021, 08:48:47
As it stands, and a couple of triggering contracts aside, I think people will largely get their wish of a clearout. Can't see how it'll be any different.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, May 12, 2021, 08:49:28
For me I'd probably keep Camp but look to have him as a backup (recruiting a first choice keeper like Benda would be amazing). His experience could be useful and if he wants to go into coaching why not having him doing both jobs?

For the others I think Odimayo once he sorts out his positioning is going to be a good pro. Athletic, pacy, good attributes for a footballer. Twine showed in glimpses he has the potential to be a decent number 10. And I also think the energy and ability of Jack Payne would be excellent in league 2. Finally out of left field I think Missilou just might be a handy addition for next season as well. Clearly I base that on no evidence at all, just my spidey senses!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, May 12, 2021, 08:50:10
If he starts running now, I'll be a bit miffed considering he hasn't run all season!

Would be happy to see Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett Pitman, Brett Pitman leave. I do think he'll score goals in L2 but don't think he'll score enough to be worth the effect on the team caused by his lack of mobility, which restricts any chance of pressing from the front etc.

In many ways he's a bit like Mitrovic at Fulham - an eye for goal but so immobile that he didn't fit in with the way they wanted to play at all.

If you’re going to set up with a 433 with the two wide strikers being nippy, young mobile players and all Pitman has to do is be in the penalty area for when the ball comes across I’m not sure you’d find many better at our level.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, May 12, 2021, 08:53:06
If you’re going to set up with a 433 with the two wide strikers being nippy, young mobile players and all Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett Pitman, Brett Pitman has to do is be in the penalty area for when the ball comes across I’m not sure you’d find many better at our level.

I don't really disagree with the principle - there are definitely ways you can set up the side where he'll still be useful. On other hand, in an unstructured side or anything resembling a pressing side, he'll be worse than useless. Kinda need to build the team around him and I wouldn't really want to see us do that because best case scenario we get one more year out of him.

Think part of our problem over the last part of this season is that trying to find a tactic which allowed Payne, Twine and BP to all play in the positions they want (two tens and a pure poacher) was... beyond Sheridan for sure. Possibly beyond any tactics!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, May 12, 2021, 09:03:31
If you’re going to set up with a 433 with the two wide strikers being nippy, young mobile players and all Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett Pitman, Brett Pitman has to do is be in the penalty area for when the ball comes across I’m not sure you’d find many better at our level.

I think that formation could possibly have worked with Tyler Smith one side, Jack Payne the other and BP in the middle. Unfortunately we were way too gash at the back to have anything remotely as cavalier!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, May 12, 2021, 09:07:22
Where’s this rumour about Pitman come from?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Panda Paws on Wednesday, May 12, 2021, 09:09:44
Where’s this rumour about Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett Pitman, Brett Pitman come from?

No idea, but here's hoping it's true. It's not 2013. Lumbering old fools up front (or in goal) is not the way to win football matches.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, May 12, 2021, 09:13:01
Definitely. Just my pure speculation but Tyler Smith with Jamile Matt from FGR would seem a terrific front 2 for L2.

That sort of thing, anyway.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Crispy on Wednesday, May 12, 2021, 09:15:42
Where’s this rumour about Pitman come from?

Me.

All joking aside. Julie Watts-esque, for those of you who remember.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, May 12, 2021, 09:17:22
So, there is actually no foundation for it. Just a bit of speculation?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, May 12, 2021, 09:19:17
That's a pretty good comparison actually. I haven't seen any Prem football all season, but do have friends that are Brentford and Fulham fans so keep up to date with what is going on at either clubs and Mitrovic's contribution this season, for such a good striker is pretty feeble.

Just to go off topic for a sec, I don't think Mitro started many games for Fulham and generally only against the lower teams. I think he is in a bit of a no mans land, too good for the Championship but too slow/immobile for the Prem.

Fun fact, a mate of mine had quite a long chat with him in  the ladies wear section of Fenwicks in Newcastle whilst they were both waiting for their other halve to try stuff on, apparently he's quite a nice bloke.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, May 12, 2021, 09:24:38
So, there is actually no foundation for it. Just a bit of speculation?

You put it on the league 2 forum didn't you?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, May 12, 2021, 09:27:58
Just to go off topic for a sec, I don't think Mitro started many games for Fulham and generally only against the lower teams. I think he is in a bit of a no mans land, too good for the Championship but too slow/immobile for the Prem.

Fun fact, a mate of mine had quite a long chat with him in  the ladies wear section of Fenwicks in Newcastle whilst they were both waiting for their other halve to try stuff on, apparently he's quite a nice bloke.

According to Wiki 25 games and 3 goals (not sure how many of these were started or coming off the bench mind you).

Was he LINGERING around in Fenwicks? Chortle.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, May 12, 2021, 09:30:09
You put it on the league 2 forum didn't you?
Yeah. Try and wind up any lurking BRovers fans!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, May 12, 2021, 09:31:57
Yeah. Try and wind up any lurking BRovers fans!

 :clap:



Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Panda Paws on Wednesday, May 12, 2021, 09:34:53
Just to go off topic for a sec, I don't think Mitro started many games for Fulham and generally only against the lower teams. I think he is in a bit of a no mans land, too good for the Championship but too slow/immobile for the Prem.

Fun fact, a mate of mine had quite a long chat with him in  the ladies wear section of Fenwicks in Newcastle whilst they were both waiting for their other halve to try stuff on, apparently he's quite a nice bloke.

The Robert Earnshaw Dilemma


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, May 12, 2021, 09:39:53
The Robert Earnshaw Dilemma

Earnshaw wasn't particularly slow was he? But I get the comparison you are making.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 12, 2021, 09:43:39
Definitely. Just my pure speculation but Tyler Smith with Jamile Matt from FGR would seem a terrific front 2 for L2.

That sort of thing, anyway.
I posted last Summer that I would quite like Matt to come in if we played a target man, hes done ok at FGR but they haven't played to his strengths as Newport did. He managed to score 16 for FGR in 36 games with a few of those from the bench and still only 31 and has been nominated as EFL League Two Player of the Season.

Alongside Akinfenwa he is probably the best target man we have played against in the last 3 season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, May 12, 2021, 10:04:46
If you are going to extend Camp then he needs to be first choice - he doesn't travel down for training only for matches.  If he was no.2 he would be a waste of a wage so would rather have somebody that is going to bring some benefit to other GK's during the week.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, May 12, 2021, 10:05:14
Lots of clubs publishing their retained lists. Presume ours will linger on into June.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, May 12, 2021, 10:11:14
If you are going to extend Camp then he needs to be first choice - he doesn't travel down for training only for matches.  If he was no.2 he would be a waste of a wage so would rather have somebody that is going to bring some benefit to other GK's during the week.

I'm still not completely convinced in Camp if I am honest. Yes he was worked hard and made some decent stops but there are goals that he conceded that you do wonder if he could have done better. Wigan's first last weekend springs to mind. I don't think he is the worst keeper in the world and would probably 'do a job' in L2. Not totally sure him being number 2 would be a complete waste of a wage, he's an experienced keeper so would definitely add something to younger keepers learning the trade. I guess its similar to when we had McCormick. The alternative of course is to start to trust the youth keeper, although I have forgotten who that is.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, May 12, 2021, 10:46:21
I'm still not completely convinced in Camp if I am honest. Yes he was worked hard and made some decent stops but there are goals that he conceded that you do wonder if he could have done better. Wigan's first last weekend springs to mind. I don't think he is the worst keeper in the world and would probably 'do a job' in L2. Not totally sure him being number 2 would be a complete waste of a wage, he's an experienced keeper so would definitely add something to younger keepers learning the trade. I guess its similar to when we had McCormick. The alternative of course is to start to trust the youth keeper, although I have forgotten who that is.

But that is my point re number 2 being a waste of a wage - if he is not coming down for training, the only time the no.1 is going to gain some experience is on matchdays.  Would rather have an experienced no.2 that is going to train with the squad during the week.

I think Camp did well, and was exactly what we needed given our circumstances this season.  Next season we need to bring in players that are going to integrate and contribute to the squad for the next 2-3 seasons..  I think we have had enough of clear out and start again every summer.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, May 12, 2021, 10:52:45
But that is my point re number 2 being a waste of a wage - if he is not coming down for training, the only time the no.1 is going to gain some experience is on matchdays.  Would rather have an experienced no.2 that is going to train with the squad during the week.

I think Camp did well, and was exactly what we needed given our circumstances this season.  Next season we need to bring in players that are going to integrate and contribute to the squad for the next 2-3 seasons..  I think we have had enough of clear out and start again every summer.

I must have missed the bit about training? What's that all about?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Crispy on Wednesday, May 12, 2021, 10:55:17
So, there is actually no foundation for it. Just a bit of speculation?

Oh no - there is foundation. How reliable that is, is another question.

Had a message last night from a Gashead friend saying "We're going in for Pitman, he's one of the 4 Barton said are essentially done".

What he knows, or how he knows it though, I'm not sure.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, May 12, 2021, 10:56:47
Ah, OK. Thanks.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, May 12, 2021, 11:07:39
I must have missed the bit about training? What's that all about?

He only comes down for matches - that's the only way that they could get him to sign the short term deal.  Whether that would be different on a longer contract I don't know, but him being settled up north with a young family, it's hardly surprising that he wasn't willing to relocate for a short period.  I am sure he is less money motivated than most given his age and experience.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, May 12, 2021, 11:30:29
He only comes down for matches - that's the only way that they could get him to sign the short term deal.  Whether that would be different on a longer contract I don't know, but him being settled up north with a young family, it's hardly surprising that he wasn't willing to relocate for a short period.  I am sure he is less money motivated than most given his age and experience.

Ah right thanks, I had missed that. Yes, in that case I see what you mean about a wasted wage for a number 2. Doesn't sound what we need at all.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, May 13, 2021, 04:51:54
Odimayo voted official PotY, with Payne runner-up.

Isn’t he another one Sheridactyl was loathe to play for some obscure reason?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Posh Red on Thursday, May 13, 2021, 07:57:09
Odimayo voted official PotY, with Payne runner-up.

Isn’t he another one Sheridactyl was loathe to play for some obscure reason?

Woohoo, do I get a bonus for being his shirt sponsor :)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Red Frog on Thursday, May 13, 2021, 09:12:55
Woohoo, do I get a bonus for being his shirt sponsor :)

You won’t even get a replica shirt out of the club.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Posh Red on Thursday, May 13, 2021, 11:19:19
You won’t even get a replica shirt out of the club.

:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: probably true


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, May 13, 2021, 12:43:01
But that is my point re number 2 being a waste of a wage - if he is not coming down for training, the only time the no.1 is going to gain some experience is on matchdays.  Would rather have an experienced no.2 that is going to train with the squad during the week.

I think Camp did well, and was exactly what we needed given our circumstances this season.  Next season we need to bring in players that are going to integrate and contribute to the squad for the next 2-3 seasons..  I think we have had enough of clear out and start again every summer.

I'd like to see him here with a younger keeper with both vying for the No 1 shirt, Camp is not getting any younger and cant have many years left in the game, so maybe Camp can use his experience to help a younger keeper.
But if rumours are true that he only came in for matchdays then you cant have a player on the books not willing to commit.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: tans on Thursday, May 13, 2021, 14:35:13
Presume the released list wont be long

Giametteis dad was on facebook group saying the club rung his son and told him he was being released.
At least do it to their faces ffs


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, May 13, 2021, 14:36:37
Presume the released list wont be long

Giametteis dad was on facebook group saying the club rung his son and told him he was being released.
At least do it to their faces ffs

I presume the release list WILL be long!

That bit about the club releasing players by text or phone isn't new is it? I'm sure there has been a criticism of that before. If true, yet another black mark for the club. Especially when it wasn't that long ago that the kid that Man City released killed himself. Football clubs really need to look after these people better.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, May 13, 2021, 14:40:17
Who is left at the club to tell them?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Frigby Daser on Thursday, May 13, 2021, 14:48:45
I presume the release list WILL be long!

That bit about the club releasing players by text or phone isn't new is it? I'm sure there has been a criticism of that before. If true, yet another black mark for the club. Especially when it wasn't that long ago that the kid that Man City released killed himself. Football clubs really need to look after these people better.

There are a lot of things about running a football club that are hard. There are a lot of things that mean a lot, and should be easy. Treating your playing staff (and other staff) with a bit of courtesy and respect, especially those that have been at the club for years like youth teamers, should not be difficult.

Those running the club (at the top, not the likes of Danny Lee and the others that clearly care) manage to do everything - absolutely everything - badly.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, May 13, 2021, 15:04:50
There are a lot of things about running a football club that are hard. There are a lot of things that mean a lot, and should be easy. Treating your playing staff (and other staff) with a bit of courtesy and respect, especially those that have been at the club for years like youth teamers, should not be difficult.

Those running the club (at the top, not the likes of Danny Lee and the others that clearly care) manage to do everything - absolutely everything - badly.

Spot on FD. I don't think it should be that much of a hardship for club staff to have proper face to face meetings with players, that, as you say, have been at the club for years and for many will be an absolute body blow.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: pauld on Thursday, May 13, 2021, 15:10:47
Seems especially harsh when they didn't even play him in the last couple of games to at least have a look at him.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, May 13, 2021, 15:18:47
Seems especially harsh when they didn't even play him in the last couple of games to at least have a look at him.

I assume they had obviously already made up their minds that none of the yoofs, aside from Parsons is going to be offered a deal? As you say once we have been relegated surely the last few games were the ideal time to throw them in.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, May 13, 2021, 18:59:23
Giametti seems to have been let go judging from his dad being less than chuffed with the club's conduct on Twitter. Gotta feel for the youngsters this season with no real chance to impress anyone, but it's par for the course for our use of the academy.

Interesting thing there is it confirms that *someone* is making decisions about new contracts (Jewell?) and that we might get a retained list at some point.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Thursday, May 13, 2021, 19:07:15
Swindon Town today announced their retained list:
Retained:
Taylor Curran (contracted until 2051)
Taylor Currans' dog (contracted until 2051)

Released:
Everyone else


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: theakston2k on Thursday, May 13, 2021, 19:59:05
Giametti seems to have been let go judging from his dad being less than chuffed with the club's conduct on Twitter. Gotta feel for the youngsters this season with no real chance to impress anyone, but it's par for the course for our use of the academy.

Interesting thing there is it confirms that *someone* is making decisions about new contracts (Jewell?) and that we might get a retained list at some point.
I’d say it’s more par for the course in terms of the lack of quality our academy produces. After the decent ones are poached before they are old enough for first team football the ones that are left just tend to be nowhere near first team level. You can count on hand the successes from the academy in the last couple of decades; Jutkiewicz, Bodin, Thompson Brothers, Twine.

The rest have been nowhere near the standard required and that’s why they don’t get used, they all end up in the second tier of non-league at best which shows we aren’t making mistakes not to use them.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: pauld on Thursday, May 13, 2021, 20:13:46
I’d say it’s more par for the course in terms of the lack of quality our academy produces. After the decent ones are poached before they are old enough for first team football the ones that are left just tend to be nowhere near first team level. You can count on hand the successes from the academy in the last couple of decades; Jutkiewicz, Bodin, Thompson Brothers, Twine.

The rest have been nowhere near the standard required and that’s why they don’t get used, they all end up in the second tier of non-league at best which shows we aren’t making mistakes not to use them.
It's a chicken and egg argument to some extent: 1st and 2nd year pro are crucial years, if the players aren't getting game time in that period, it's a real hindrance to their development. This is where Wellens had a point about us not having an U23s to let the players who weren't quite ready for the first team get a bit longer to develop.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: theakston2k on Thursday, May 13, 2021, 20:20:54
It's a chicken and egg argument to some extent: 1st and 2nd year pro are crucial years, if the players aren't getting game time in that period, it's a real hindrance to their development. This is where Wellens had a point about us not having an U23s to let the players who weren't quite ready for the first team get a bit longer to develop.
We seem to even struggle to find decent loans for our youngsters though so it does still point to an issue in terms of them being of the required standard.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: pauld on Thursday, May 13, 2021, 20:28:09
We seem to even struggle to find decent loans for our youngsters though so it does still point to an issue in terms of them being of the required standard.
But as you note yourself, the Academy is producing decent youngsters, it's just that they tend to get sold before they reach the first team. So maybe the problem isn't that the Academy produces "a lack of quality" as how those Academy products are used.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: theakston2k on Thursday, May 13, 2021, 21:37:23
But as you note yourself, the Academy is producing decent youngsters, it's just that they tend to get sold before they reach the first team. So maybe the problem isn't that the Academy produces "a lack of quality" as how those Academy products are used.
But we have little to no choice in this as it’s a piece of piss to poach youngsters under the new system as we have such a lowly academy status.  The net result is that anyone decent is gone before they are 15 or 16 and that the vast majority of academy products we have left aren’t of a sufficient standard for league football.

It’s another reason we need our own purpose built training facility so that we can elevate our academy status to the extent where better players want to be part of it and stay within it.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: DiV on Friday, May 14, 2021, 05:47:51
Obviously there is no point flogging a dead horse - if a player isn’t up to standard then chances are they will never be.

However, let’s take a look at Scott Twine who is now being peddled as an Academy success story.
A year ago, 95% of our fan base wouldnt have been bothered had he gone. He didn’t look up to standard in L2 as a centre forward.
He goes on loan to Newport and again the large majority of the fan base are meh (and that debate was done to death at the start of the season)
An extra 6 months development, 6 months of regular first team football and a tweak in position and we are desperate for him to come back here (won’t deny that our gash midfield exaggerated this desire)

Now he’s probably off to a Championship club.

Now, for arguments sake if we’d released Twine last season - would he have gone on to prove us wrong? Or would he have ended up in Melksham reserves?....and could any of our other youngsters have a similar career trajectory with a few more years development time and/or regular first team football?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Cowley38 on Friday, May 14, 2021, 06:11:14
Obviously there is no point flogging a dead horse - if a player isn’t up to standard then chances are they will never be.

However, let’s take a look at Scott Twine who is now being peddled as an Academy success story.
A year ago, 95% of our fan base wouldnt have been bothered had he gone. He didn’t look up to standard in L2 as a centre forward.
He goes on loan to Newport and again the large majority of the fan base are meh (and that debate was done to death at the start of the season)
An extra 6 months development, 6 months of regular first team football and a tweak in position and we are desperate for him to come back here (won’t deny that our gash midfield exaggerated this desire)

Now he’s probably off to a Championship club.

Now, for arguments sake if we’d released Twine last season - would he have gone on to prove us wrong? Or would he have ended up in Melksham reserves?....and could any of our other youngsters have a similar career trajectory with a few more years development time and/or regular first team football?

Twine has a decision to make...

IF he gets offers to sign for a Championshio side he is likely only going to be a squad player with the occasional spot on the bench- he is not good enough yet to start in the Championship....

Or he goes to a too half League 1 side where he will make the occasional start probably spend 99% on the bench

Or he stays here and has another year or so development time from where he could be ready for the step up.....


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: DiV on Friday, May 14, 2021, 06:14:33
Twine has a decision to make...

IF he gets offers to sign for a Championshio side he is likely only going to be a squad player with the occasional spot on the bench- he is not good enough yet to start in the Championship....

Or he goes to a too half League 1 side where he will make the occasional start probably spend 99% on the bench

Or he stays here and has another year or so development time from where he could be ready for the step up.....

The obvious answer is sign for the championship club and go out on loan to a decent L1 side.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: DiV on Friday, May 14, 2021, 06:15:33
Not that his exact future had much to do with the point I was (trying to) make about our Academy


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Friday, May 14, 2021, 08:18:57
My understanding is that our Academy is built to take players so far, then cash in early, rather than taking players to the next level. We don't have the infrastructure to take the final step. That's why most of our promising youths end up going to Premier league youth set ups very early on. So its not surprising that we don't get many 18/19 year old breaking through to the first team.

The thing this year though is the worry that everyone is potentially being released because of the off field ownership situation. If the owner is only concerned with the club surviving a matter of weeks until he begrudgingly sells to someone he doesnt want to (and for a price that might mean that he will be forced to pay money to people he doesnt want to) then we might be getting rid of some people that 'might' make it in the game. Hindsight might then tell us what a mistake we've made. (I've always been annoyed whenever I see Jutkewicz successfully playing at a higher level as I think we jumped too quick there)

The problem with footballers (being human) is that they develop at different rates and they succeed at some places and not at others. The other considerations for Twine (as well as whether he would get game time) are money and whether his game would improve/stand out/be effective at whatever club offers him a contract.

Swindon 'could' build a team around him in L2 and make him look very good. But I don't think a Championship or League 1 club would. But they could offer him a shed load of money. However, if he had a team built around him in L2 and he improved at the rate that he has in the last 12 months, maybe a Premier league team would come in and offer him 1000 x sheds worth of money.

So, this is his dilemma. Does he stick or twist?
  


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Friday, May 14, 2021, 08:22:54
Definitely go to decent championship club and mix with their better players


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, May 14, 2021, 09:27:02
I see a handful of our fans reacted to the club sharing a video of Dion Conroy working in the gym after his operation by telling Conroy to Fuck off. One of them was seeking an apology from Dion for some reason.

Again, trying to keep an open mind here, but what did Conroy do last season that has lead to fans behaving in this way? Or are these just morons on twitter looking for attention?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, May 14, 2021, 09:27:23
Obviously there is no point flogging a dead horse - if a player isn’t up to standard then chances are they will never be.

However, let’s take a look at Scott Twine who is now being peddled as an Academy success story.
A year ago, 95% of our fan base wouldnt have been bothered had he gone. He didn’t look up to standard in L2 as a centre forward.
He goes on loan to Newport and again the large majority of the fan base are meh (and that debate was done to death at the start of the season)
An extra 6 months development, 6 months of regular first team football and a tweak in position and we are desperate for him to come back here (won’t deny that our gash midfield exaggerated this desire)

Now he’s probably off to a Championship club.

Now, for arguments sake if we’d released Twine last season - would he have gone on to prove us wrong? Or would he have ended up in Melksham reserves?....and could any of our other youngsters have a similar career trajectory with a few more years development time and/or regular first team football?
That kind of proves the point though doesn't it, other clubs managers will also know about players and Twine had enough about him to get a loan move to a league 2 club and subsequently has proven himself somewhat. The rest of our youth players struggle to get anything above National League North and South level and even down there don't exactly excel down there.

Unless we are able to scale up our academy to the point where we can compete against the likes of Reading & City's academies and at the same time keep the really promising players then there is always going to be a problem with youth players making it to the first team. It's no slight on the Academy staff as they do a lot of hard work, but if you just don't have the sufficient quality of player to work with then there is always going to be a lack of youth team players stepping up to the first team.  


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, May 14, 2021, 09:28:09
I see a handful of our fans reacted to the club sharing a video of Dion Conroy working in the gym after his operation by telling Conroy to Fuck off. One of them was seeking an apology from Dion for some reason.

Again, trying to keep an open mind here, but what did Conroy do last season that has lead to fans behaving in this way? Or are these just morons on twitter looking for attention?

I think you've answered your own question there BO! Was actively told not to speak to the press, ostracised from the group and bullied by a toxic boss by the sounds of things.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, May 14, 2021, 09:30:32
I see a handful of our fans reacted to the club sharing a video of Dion Conroy working in the gym after his operation by telling Conroy to Fuck off. One of them was seeking an apology from Dion for some reason.

Again, trying to keep an open mind here, but what did Conroy do last season that has lead to fans behaving in this way? Or are these just morons on twitter looking for attention?
I'm on the fence with Conroy with regards to whether he's worth persisting with and have no ill will towards him. But at times it has felt like his only focus this season has been using his Instagram account to pedal cars which isn't a great look for a captain in a struggling team and imagine some have taken exception to it.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, May 14, 2021, 09:56:41
I think you've answered your own question there BO! Was actively told not to speak to the press, ostracised from the group and bullied by a toxic boss by the sounds of things.

It does sound that way doesn't it? After Tyler Smith speaking out about Shez and now Conroy putting out his slant on it, what they have said is pretty much as 99% of fans would expect. His management couldn't have been much further from what was needed. Old fashioned bully boy stuff with as much tactical nous as me.

I'm on the fence with Conroy with regards to whether he's worth persisting with and have no ill will towards him. But at times it has felt like his only focus this season has been using his Instagram account to pedal cars which isn't a great look for a captain in a struggling team and imagine some have taken exception to it.

Its the ill will i don't really get to be honest. The guy has come back from horrific injuries and almost certainly they haven't been properly managed. I don't use Instagram so can't really comment on that. Is it like a sideline business he is running? I assume he does it after training/physio etc so surely he is entitled to do whatever the hell he likes?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, May 14, 2021, 10:03:42
I won't judge any player under Sheridan. (except maybe for Curran).

Conroy is a classy defender, and at DM. He's shown his ability time and time again.

If only he could stay fit we'd have a top L2 defender next season. A half-decent manager would help as well.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Swindon Please Win on Friday, May 14, 2021, 10:29:12
https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2021/may/2021-retained-and-released-list/

Well didn't expect this so soon.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: welshred on Friday, May 14, 2021, 10:30:55
Some big outgoings. Anthony Grant, Hope, Broadbent, Caddis and Palmer.

Someone has a very big rebuilding job on their hands.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, May 14, 2021, 10:32:30
https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2021/may/2021-retained-and-released-list/

Well didn't expect this so soon.
Wow next season is going to be fun. Surprised to see Parson's has been offered a deal, although the way things are going we'll probably need a load of cheap players and youth teamers to field XI players.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: tans on Friday, May 14, 2021, 10:32:56
I thought Fryers was on a 2 year deal?

No goalkeepers either


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, May 14, 2021, 10:33:43
A shame to see the general go, but he's 34 next month.

And Caddis, of course. Age even catches up with legends.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: DiV on Friday, May 14, 2021, 10:33:56
Surprised A.Grant wasn’t at least offered terms.
The rest are no surprise.
Shame there are so many under contract for next season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Abrahammer on Friday, May 14, 2021, 10:37:52
Looking forward to people not understanding how contracts work


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: singingiiiffy on Friday, May 14, 2021, 10:39:15
really disappointed with the release of hallam hope. when given the opportunity he has had some very good games. He would have made perfect for us in league 2.

of the others. cheerio


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, May 14, 2021, 10:41:43
The worst bit is that 5 or the 8 retained are defenders from arguably our worst ever defence. Who exactly thought it was a good idea to give people like Baudry & Grounds longer contracts?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Quagmire on Friday, May 14, 2021, 10:44:26
Looks like Anthony Cheshire found out of his release via Twitter.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: RedRag on Friday, May 14, 2021, 10:44:39
Definitely go to decent championship club and mix with their better players

I feel Twine's allround midfield play has continued, post Wellens, to lack impact  His back 'o the net howitzers apart.  He has made some clever passes and he may have made more with better team-mates around him.  He did not nearly compare to Matt Smith however with his passing and general involvement, imo.  

Imagine Matt Smith with Twine's shooting abilities.  I think Twine does have that kind of potential still.  Thanks to Newport he achieved a required increase in his confidence.  Remarkably and to his immense credit, he maintained that in almost impossible circumstances at SN1.


I don't think he is ready for the Championship and he has nothing left to prove now at L2 level.  Playing with better players and better coaching in League One would, imo, be the best for him personally. I'm afraid Power and if not STFC need the money.  Good luck to the lad.



Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: JoeMezz on Friday, May 14, 2021, 10:45:30
Christ alive. What absolute dross we have left behind


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, May 14, 2021, 10:47:44
Though Pork Pie was only a 1 season deal. According to Wiki, Grounds signed a 1 year deal on 17 September 2020. So his contract runs out not long after the new season starts.

Edit? Exactly the same for Pork Pie as Grounds.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Riddick on Friday, May 14, 2021, 10:49:14
I was sure Pitman and Grounds had 1 year deals. Very surprised that extensions have been triggered somehow, or contracts offered.

However i think under a better management i expect to see more from both, especially Grounds. Think how bad Baudry/Conroy have seemed this season, compared to how strong they were last, even taking into account the division difference.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: JoeMezz on Friday, May 14, 2021, 10:49:33
Though Pork Pie was only a 1 season deal. According to Wiki, Grounds signed a 1 year deal on 17 September 2020. So his fund out not long after the new season starts.

Edit? Exactly the same for Pork Pie as Grounds.

Yeah I thought they were only on 1 year deals


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, May 14, 2021, 10:50:21
Yeah, they are 1 year deals. Runs out 17 September for both.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: RedRag on Friday, May 14, 2021, 10:51:09
A shame to see the general go, but he's 34 next month.

And Caddis, of course. Age even catches up with legends.
Those two have been massive.  They deserved a special send off, not a generalised note thanking them for their efforts.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Riddick on Friday, May 14, 2021, 10:53:16
Ultimately no real decisions have been made here. Those out of contract are gone, those not are still here.

Age has caught up to some of them for sure, but people like Joel Grant and Hallam Hope, while not great are good league 2 players that if we had a manager in place may well have been retained.

The triggering thing on the list is that Curran still has 2 more years, fucking hell.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: DiV on Friday, May 14, 2021, 10:53:50
Yeah, they are 1 year deals. Runs out 17 September for both.

Really?

I thought even if they signed an x-year deal in September it would expire end of July like other people’s.
Only ever known short term contracts to end during the season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: JBZ on Friday, May 14, 2021, 10:54:19
Shame Hope has not been retained


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: adje on Friday, May 14, 2021, 10:55:41
Hope apart, can't really argue with the departures. Can't see Grounds being offered a new deal in Sept. Not sûre about PP. Stuck with some lameos though, Conroy, Baudry and Curran.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, May 14, 2021, 10:56:09
This says Pitman had an option which I guess has been triggered:

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/brett-pitman/profil/spieler/48312


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, May 14, 2021, 10:56:15
Really?

I thought even if they signed an x-year deal in September it would expire end of July like other people’s.
Only ever known short term contracts to end during the season.
I’m only going by Wiki. Says the same for both players. Signed a 1 year deal 17 September.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, May 14, 2021, 10:57:26
Shame Hope has not been retained

Surprised he wasn't made an offer on the basis that we actually paid money for him....


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: DiV on Friday, May 14, 2021, 10:57:32
I’m only going by Wiki. Says the same for both players. Signed a 1 year deal 17 September.

In that case I can only assume they’ve played the certain amount of games required to automatically trigger another year?

....or that Wikipedia is wrong


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: JBZ on Friday, May 14, 2021, 10:57:44
I also think that J Grant would do a decent job in div 4


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: DiV on Friday, May 14, 2021, 10:58:36
I also think that J Grant would do a decent job in div 4

...as what?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, May 14, 2021, 10:59:08
...as what?
Certainly not on the pitch.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, May 14, 2021, 11:00:18
Surprised he wasn't made an offer on the basis that we actually paid money for him....
Probably don't want to have to pay any more money post June than they have to, can see no signings until the start of the season if nothing changes with regards to ownership.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: JBZ on Friday, May 14, 2021, 11:00:47
...as what?

Lower league footballer, principally.  I have not seen his CV so can't vouch for any other skills.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, May 14, 2021, 11:01:48
In that case I can only assume they’ve played the certain amount of games required to automatically trigger another year?

....or that Wikipedia is wrong
You could be right as Wiki also says Joel Grant signed a 1 year deal on 19 Sept and he’s been binned.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, May 14, 2021, 11:04:02
FWIW trying to look on a bright side...

Whilst most of those defenders were pants this season they have done it before in L2 (with a manger benefiting from a clue) likewise with a set up that plays to his strengths PPP could do a decent job in league 2.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, May 14, 2021, 11:05:51
FWIW trying to look on a bright side...

Whilst most of those defenders were pants this season they have done it before in L2 (with a manger benefiting from a clue) likewise with a set up that plays to his strengths PPP could do a decent job in league 2.
Problem is they are all 2 years older and have god knows how many additional injuries under their belts.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, May 14, 2021, 11:10:28
Looks like Anthony Cheshire found out of his release via Twitter.

So this part of that statement on the website was obviously fake news;

"The following players have been informed they will not be retained:"


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, May 14, 2021, 11:18:08
FWIW trying to look on a bright side...

Whilst most of those defenders were pants this season they have done it before in L2 (with a manger benefiting from a clue) likewise with a set up that plays to his strengths PPP could do a decent job in league 2.

Albeit to look on the less bright side, the fact that this has been done so quickly would suggest that no new managerial appointment is imminent....


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, May 14, 2021, 11:19:45
Why has it been done quickly? Most clubs have already published theirs.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Friday, May 14, 2021, 11:26:27
Social media is funny
"Get rid of the lot of them there are all shite"
List is released
"Why have X and Y been released, what a joke"


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, May 14, 2021, 11:27:31
From that list, at least we can put out a back 4 (albeit not a particularly great one). Big rebuild required.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Crackity Jones on Friday, May 14, 2021, 11:31:54
Has Tommy Wright left the club now or is he still here?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: FormerlyPlymRed on Friday, May 14, 2021, 11:39:49
Personally I'd of offered Grant, Missilou and Hope new deals on reduced terms. Think all could be decent in L2 even as squad players (Missilou).

The rest I can't disagree with.

Absolutely shocking if youth players are finding out via social media.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Posh Red on Friday, May 14, 2021, 11:57:07
So this part of that statement on the website was obviously fake news;

"The following players have been informed they will not be retained:"

Although it seems odd that he would be treated differently, as yesterday we were told that others had been informed via text message. Still a shit way to find out though.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Berniman on Friday, May 14, 2021, 11:59:33
I see a handful of our fans reacted to the club sharing a video of Dion Conroy working in the gym after his operation by telling Conroy to Fuck off. One of them was seeking an apology from Dion for some reason.

Again, trying to keep an open mind here, but what did Conroy do last season that has lead to fans behaving in this way? Or are these just morons on twitter looking for attention?

Yeah, I had a pop at one of them on there for slating him.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Friday, May 14, 2021, 12:02:16
Lower league footballer, principally.  I have not seen his CV so can't vouch for any other skills.
Not necessarily sure we have seen a great portfolio of skills commensurate with a lower league footballer either.  ;D


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Quagmire on Friday, May 14, 2021, 12:03:40
So this part of that statement on the website was obviously fake news;

"The following players have been informed they will not be retained:"

Seems that way. Not surprising though is it.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, May 14, 2021, 12:04:23
Yeah, I had a pop at one of them on there for slating him.

I thought I saw that - fair play to you.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Friday, May 14, 2021, 12:04:39
Yeah, I had a pop at one of them on there for slating him.

The same fickle fcukwits were probably kissing his ass and posting shit like "my captain, I love this club" this time last season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, May 14, 2021, 12:04:48
Seems that way. Not surprising though is it.

Sadly not. This club has a long long way to go in many ways unfortunately.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, May 14, 2021, 12:05:00
The only disappointment is the options that have been triggered on Pitman and Grounds, presumably appearance-related. And the way some players found out, if true, is unacceptable.

Archie Matthews seems a tad harsh, but I'm not going to lose sleep over it.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Friday, May 14, 2021, 12:09:32
The only disappointment is the options that have been triggered on Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett Pitman, Brett Pitman and Grounds, presumably appearance-related. And the way some players found out, if true, is unacceptable.

Archie Matthews seems a tad harsh, but I'm not going to lose sleep over it.
I suspect that some of those on the retained list won't be here come the beginning of the season.

The Archie Matthews one is not surprising. I don't think we was up to Fryer or Kovar's standard, so there is little reason to keep him is there? 


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Berniman on Friday, May 14, 2021, 12:10:48
The only disappointment is the options that have been triggered on Pitman and Grounds, presumably appearance-related. And the way some players found out, if true, is unacceptable.

Archie Matthews seems a tad harsh, but I'm not going to lose sleep over it.

Agree with this - Pitman and Grounds should be nowhere near this team next season, but there you have it.

Oh, and and well done for making me spit water over my dashboard this morning for the Umpa Lumpa comment - top work


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Lethbridge70 on Friday, May 14, 2021, 12:32:08
Powers fingers all over this.Never likes to pay contracts through the summer and always leaves recruitment late.Maybe he is expecting to be here next year after all looking at this list.Lets hope not!!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: tans on Friday, May 14, 2021, 12:36:30
The club deny Cheshire didnt know by saying ‘we tried ringing Anthony Cheshire a few times, but it went to voicemail, so left a message instead’

Good god :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: pauld on Friday, May 14, 2021, 12:57:24
That kind of proves the point though doesn't it, other clubs managers will also know about players and Twine had enough about him to get a loan move to a league 2 club and subsequently has proven himself somewhat. The rest of our youth players struggle to get anything above National League North and South level and even down there don't exactly excel down there.

Unless we are able to scale up our academy to the point where we can compete against the likes of Reading & City's academies and at the same time keep the really promising players then there is always going to be a problem with youth players making it to the first team. It's no slight on the Academy staff as they do a lot of hard work, but if you just don't have the sufficient quality of player to work with then there is always going to be a lack of youth team players stepping up to the first team. 
Again you seem to keep missing the point that it's not so much a lack of quality as that the quality players often get sold before they get to stage of being in contention for the first team.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: THE FLASH on Friday, May 14, 2021, 12:58:21
Grounds and Curran shouldnt kick another ball for us.

Pitman might do a job in L2 with a good foil.

Two thugs in midfield and a big keeper....build the rest around that.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: pauld on Friday, May 14, 2021, 12:59:16
Wow next season is going to be fun. Surprised to see Parson's has been offered a deal, although the way things are going we'll probably need a load of cheap players and youth teamers to field XI players.
Except the "youth teamers" and 1st year pros have all been released apart from Parsons so that doesn't really stack up?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: MangoRed on Friday, May 14, 2021, 13:03:32
Seen a few on this thread that believe contracts run on a 365 day basis, ie if grounds and pitman signed September 2020, their deals expire September 2021.

I really don't think this is the case. Deals run from pre season start/whenever you sign up till May 30/June 30? I know there is a obligation on all FL clubs part to pay an extra 1 month if they are yet to find a club.



Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Nemo on Friday, May 14, 2021, 13:09:23
Don't really disagree with releasing them but would have liked to see a classier message to send off Grant and Caddis in particular.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: swindonmaniac on Friday, May 14, 2021, 13:20:19
I suspect that some of those on the retained list won't be here come the beginning of the season.

The Archie Matthews one is not surprising. I don't think we was up to Fryer or Kovar's standard, so there is little reason to keep him is there? 
Behave,  Aunt Sally would have done a better job than Kovar.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, May 14, 2021, 13:21:31
Except the "youth teamers" and 1st year pros have all been released apart from Parsons so that doesn't really stack up?
Perhaps he's the only one they think might do a job, he's had little to no involvement this season so seems odd to offer him a new deal.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: pauld on Friday, May 14, 2021, 13:43:10
Perhaps he's the only one they think might do a job, he's had little to no involvement this season so seems odd to offer him a new deal.
It's not a "new deal" as such, he's a second year scholar (U18) so this would be his first professional contract


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: NotHarryAgombar on Friday, May 14, 2021, 16:29:20
The retained list contains a number of players with poor fitness  records - Lyden, Conroy, Baudry, Iandolo and Hunt(in his case in 20-21)
If they could stay fit, with the possible exception of Baudry (based on his age) the others would do a good job in L2 if they stay fit.
Presumably with Pitman and Grounds, the trade off for a cheapish short term contract is an option for another year triggered by appearances - important for them at their ages. I agree with those who would have neither in the team next season, Grounds is error prone, and BP’s immobility means it is difficult to press sides from the front.

Of those released, I would have preferred to keep Hope, who I think would do a job in L2. Possibly Missoulu also, but not as convinced by him. The rest  - no issues with any of them going  - Fryers is a good player when fit, but we can’t afford too many sick notes in the squad.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Nemo on Friday, May 14, 2021, 16:39:54
I wouldn't have minded Hope sticking around, but purely from when he signed (when we were desperate for a striker after Yates and Doyle were recalled) and with no inside knowledge I wouldn't be shocked to find out he was much higher up the wage structure than his role in the team merited.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 14, 2021, 16:41:07
https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2021/may/2021-retained-and-released-list/

Well didn't expect this so soon.

Luke Haines ????


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Nemo on Friday, May 14, 2021, 16:42:35
Luke Haines ????

Still at Hereford I think? They have the FA Trophy final next weekend, I guess he'll be eligible to play that. Would be surprised if he comes back to Town though.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Friday, May 14, 2021, 16:54:48
Shame we had to retain any to be honest


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Friday, May 14, 2021, 17:09:03
Behave,  Aunt Sally would have done a better job than Kovar.
I don't deny that.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Costanza on Friday, May 14, 2021, 17:15:49
Luke Haines ????

I dare say that theres more to it but Haines had his contract ripped up in order to play at Wembley with Hereford.



Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 14, 2021, 17:23:37
Quote from: Costanza
Quote
Luke Haines ????
I dare say that theres more to it but Haines had his contract ripped up in order to play at Wembley with Hereford.

thanks


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, May 15, 2021, 10:31:39
Haines has confirmed on twitter that he left Swindon in February. Nice of them to mention I suppose.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, May 15, 2021, 10:43:23
Haines has confirmed on twitter that he left Swindon in February. Nice of them to mention I suppose.

Why can this club not just communicate these things properly? So frustrating. Worse customer service than bloody Virgin Media.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, May 15, 2021, 10:47:17
Why can this club not just communicate these things properly? So frustrating. Worse customer service than bloody Virgin Media.
Communication has always been my major bugbear of Powers regime. But it turns out the communication was so shit because he had so much to hide.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, May 15, 2021, 10:53:07
Communication has always been my major bugbear of Powers regime. But it turns out the communication was so shit because he had so much to hide.

Same mate. Hopefully when he fucks off we, as paying fans will be treated properly. Some people put thousands of pounds into this club, they should be given a lot more respect.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, May 15, 2021, 10:55:45
Well said Bob but the arrogant millionaire dosen't give two fucks about some fans struggling to fund games to watch the club they may have supported for decades as long as his pockets are full


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Saturday, May 15, 2021, 10:57:13
Communication has always been my major bugbear of Powers regime. But it turns out the communication was so shit because he had so much to hide.

Knowledge is power and power likes power, literally. The less said the less awkward questions are asked.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, May 15, 2021, 11:15:30
Jack Payne giving Giametti some love on Twitter.

Some of the kids are trying to get themselves noticed via twitter videos. Good luck to them.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: DiV on Saturday, May 15, 2021, 12:10:29
Haines has confirmed on twitter that he left Swindon in February. Nice of them to mention I suppose.

Didn’t we already know this?
I thought this all came out when he went back to Hereford?


Title: Re: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: horlock07 on Saturday, May 15, 2021, 12:19:45
Haines has confirmed on twitter that he left Swindon in February. Nice of them to mention I suppose.
Perhaps someone could teach him to update his twitter bio...

Good luck to the fella.

Sent from my SM-A125F


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2020-21)
Post by: Batch on Saturday, May 15, 2021, 12:19:55
Quote from: DV Canio
Didn’t we already know this?
I thought this all came out when he went back to Hereford?
I thought only through the grapevine?

must have missed the club announcement


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, May 18, 2021, 08:32:21
On the LS podcast they were saying that because of the EFL loan of 600k we are due to pay back, it means that we can't sign any players on a fee. I assume that we are still able to sign out of contract players freely? (which we were most likely to do anyway) Are there any restrictions on us there at all?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, May 18, 2021, 09:13:16
On the LS podcast they were saying that because of the EFL loan of 600k we are due to pay back, it means that we can't sign any players on a fee. I assume that we are still able to sign out of contract players freely? (which we were most likely to do anyway) Are there any restrictions on us there at all?

To be clear, we don't know exactly what the restrictions are, but it's a safe guess to assume not signing players for cash when we owe the EFL 600k is one of them.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, May 18, 2021, 09:21:36
To be clear, we don't know exactly what the restrictions are, but it's a safe guess to assume not signing players for cash when we owe the EFL 600k is one of them.

How is that going to affect clubs this window (I cannot imagine for one second we will be the only one), I suppose certain clubs will be able to repay from season ticket money (no hope for us) in the coming weeks/months, but others, including us, will have the square root of fuck all of income until the season starts meaning no players can be bought.

If nothing else its going to be a buyers market for sure.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, May 18, 2021, 09:40:32
On the LS podcast they were saying that because of the EFL loan of 600k we are due to pay back, it means that we can't sign any players on a fee. I assume that we are still able to sign out of contract players freely? (which we were most likely to do anyway) Are there any restrictions on us there at all?

Likely some sort of wage cap will be put in place - so the quality of those free transfers is likely to be at the bottom end one would assume


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 18, 2021, 09:40:38
To be clear, we don't know exactly what the restrictions are, but it's a safe guess to assume not signing players for cash when we owe the EFL 600k is one of them.

Yeah, all I can find is the same as you have (below). The bit about wages probably further limits who we sign on a free. Probably.

But its a bit moot given the finances are screwed anyway

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In addition, a further £20m ‘Monitored Grant’ is to be provided with Clubs able to apply for it based on ‘need’, with a joint EFL and Premier League panel to determine Club eligibility.
Clubs subsequently in receipt of a ‘monitored grant’ will be subject to certain restrictions, in respect to transfer spend and player wages.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, May 18, 2021, 10:06:57
To be clear, we don't know exactly what the restrictions are, but it's a safe guess to assume not signing players for cash when we owe the EFL 600k is one of them.

Ok, thanks for the clarification. A sensible assumption I would have thought.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Hyabb17 on Tuesday, May 18, 2021, 10:50:17
To be clear, we don't know exactly what the restrictions are, but it's a safe guess to assume not signing players for cash when we owe the EFL 600k is one of them.

The trust advised last night that it'll impact the amount of wages we can spend on players, management staff etc until the 600K is repaid.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: normy on Friday, May 28, 2021, 15:03:32
It's depressing to see the players still under contract, I would only keep Payne and Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett Pitman, Brett Pitman out of  the nine.

Terms offered to Odimayo, Parsons and Twine - OK

Garrick and Tyler Smith are returning to their clubs, and others.

13 not retained, out of 13 I would keep Camp, Anthony Grant, and Palmer , personally.

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2021/may/2021-retained-and-released-list/


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: tans on Tuesday, June 8, 2021, 15:39:37
Scott Twine signing for Franchise


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, June 8, 2021, 15:45:49
Scott Twine signing for Franchise

Was always likely. Do we get any ££ from them at all?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: hefty toe on Tuesday, June 8, 2021, 15:47:21
Guess Scott Twine really wants to work with Luke Williams again.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, June 8, 2021, 15:48:34
bloody franchise of all teams.

good luck to him


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, June 8, 2021, 15:50:31
It's quite amusing our fans trying to make out on twitter that he's not making a step up by moving to them.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, June 8, 2021, 15:53:54
Guess Scott Twine really wants to work with Luke Williams again.

Sadly I think Franchise is the perfect club for him. Gutted it's them but they seem to be moving in the right direction unfortunately and Williams seems to be a positive influence also.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: welshred on Tuesday, June 8, 2021, 15:57:36
He could have at least signed for a real club.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: tans on Tuesday, June 8, 2021, 15:59:48
Fair play for signing for the real Wimbledon


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, June 8, 2021, 16:05:49
Fair play for signing for the real Wimbledon

Have you changed your name JBZ?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, June 8, 2021, 16:06:56
Was always likely. Do we get any ££ from them at all?

I think we will get compo as we offered him a contract.

Interesting that this is sorted the week before another (possibly critical) day in court, perhaps the compo can be banked before the court rules....



Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, June 8, 2021, 16:12:18
I think we will get compo as we offered him a contract.



oh excellent, wonder if he'll convince Cleggy to join also.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Abrahammer on Tuesday, June 8, 2021, 16:13:55
It's quite amusing our fans trying to make out on twitter that he's not making a step up by moving to them.

Also amusing on there seeing people say he shouldn’t have moved to them because of who they are!

As if any player with a brain cell would let that have any impact on their decision


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: hefty toe on Tuesday, June 8, 2021, 16:17:52
Sadly I think Franchise is the perfect club for him. Gutted it's them but they seem to be moving in the right direction unfortunately and Williams seems to be a positive influence also.

Yes, they played some very impressive football last season and will be L1 contenders next season. Luke Williams is an excellent coach. A shame that we couldn't have recruited a decent manager for him to work under. All pretty sad. I wonder if Swindon will ever get decent ownership.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, June 8, 2021, 16:20:17
Also amusing on there seeing people say he shouldn’t have moved to them because of who they are!

As if any player with a brain cell would let that have any impact on their decision

Exactly!!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Tuesday, June 8, 2021, 16:24:34
I think we will get compo as we offered him a contract.

Interesting that this is sorted the week before another (possibly critical) day in court, perhaps the compo can be banked before the court rules....



If he hasn't signed yet, perhaps he could delay signing until after the court case ...


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, June 8, 2021, 16:25:11
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3X2WiWXoAIeCdB?format=jpg&name=medium)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, June 8, 2021, 17:02:45
Anyone but Franchise. Good footballing move for him no doubt  but a shame not to see him go to a club for whom I might be able to develop some affection. Hope the compensation tribunal takes a few months.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, June 8, 2021, 20:15:20
I do wish players would stay away from making claims to be fans.  None of them ever go through the teenage years to 20's, which is where fans are made.  They only ever, at best, get the very early "enjoy watching a club" stage.  Fans develop mental illnesses which disables our ability to contemplate ever watching Franchise for example.  We'd rather see child murderers released from prison on good behaviour than do that.

Best of luck to him.  I'm not convinced by him yet, but if someone can unlock a way of using his undeniably impressive shooting from range ability there is certainly a chance.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Tuesday, June 8, 2021, 21:12:34
I do wish players would stay away from making claims to be fans.  None of them ever go through the teenage years to 20's, which is where fans are made.  They only ever, at best, get the very early "enjoy watching a club" stage.  Fans develop mental illnesses which disables our ability to contemplate ever watching Franchise for example.  We'd rather see child murderers released from prison on good behaviour than do that.

Best of luck to him.  I'm not convinced by him yet, but if someone can unlock a way of using his undeniably impressive shooting from range ability there is certainly a chance.
but he is a fan, he's a Bassett lad who's been going since he was a kid. The franchise thing is what older fans remember, he wouod of been 4 when they were formed so.likely doesn't know much better


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, June 9, 2021, 06:48:29
I thought he’d do better for himself than Franchise if I’m honest.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, June 9, 2021, 08:55:11
I thought he’d do better for himself than Franchise if I’m honest.
This.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Riddick on Wednesday, June 9, 2021, 09:06:54
I think he was vastly over rated and signing for MK seems about right. Good luck to him regardless.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, June 9, 2021, 09:18:31
I thought he’d do better for himself than Franchise if I’m honest.

I dunno, mid table L1, half decent manager plus Williams is there, sort of makes sense. I wonder how much Power will make off this?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, June 9, 2021, 09:23:00
needs to play games. Had every chance of doing so


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, June 9, 2021, 09:28:08
I dunno, mid table L1, half decent manager plus Williams is there, sort of makes sense. I wonder how much Power will make off this?

It makes sense from a ‘upwards move from Swindon & somewhere where he will get first team football’ point of view. Probably a fairly decent place to go - to use as a stepping stone.

I’d have thought he’d end up at a Championship clubs on the basis of he’s still very young, English for any sorta quotas & has scored some stunners which will get noticed. Said Championship club would then ship him out on loan for a season of regular football in L1.


...but...obviously that’s all relative to what was on offer.
Don’t think any of the ITKers mentioned Franchise.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, June 9, 2021, 09:46:01
Preston, Luton, Pompey all closely linked in the media.

Hope he does well. Another season in L2 was no use to him whatsoever.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Posh Red on Wednesday, June 9, 2021, 13:41:31
Jack Payne signing for Crawley, surely he could do better than that


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, June 9, 2021, 13:43:07
Jack Payne signing for Crawley, surely he could do better than that

Different one -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Payne_(footballer,_born_1991)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, June 9, 2021, 13:43:16
Jack Payne signing for Crawley, surely he could do better than that
Different Jack Payne :)

EDIT beaten to it!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Posh Red on Wednesday, June 9, 2021, 13:49:50
Different one -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Payne_(footballer,_born_1991)
Different Jack Payne :)

EDIT beaten to it!

I thought it was a bit strange, I’m reckon Payne is going to end up at Pompey


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, June 9, 2021, 13:51:56
I thought it was a bit strange, I’m reckon Payne is going to end up at Pompey
I think thats a cert now, back with his mate Cowley who signed him for lincoln, a decent move for him, I think he would be great in L2 if he stayed but I fully understand it if he does leave.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, June 9, 2021, 13:59:13
Thought Cowley said they were no longer interested. How many players do we have now? 8?

https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/football/portsmouth-fc/portsmouth-not-in-the-hunt-for-reported-swindon-target-jack-payne-3252147


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, June 9, 2021, 14:09:40
Thought Cowley said they were no longer interested. How many players do we have now? 8?

https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/football/portsmouth-fc/portsmouth-not-in-the-hunt-for-reported-swindon-target-jack-payne-3252147

I think its 8, and 0 goalkeepers.

I know that our brilliant owner is tied up with legal matters at the moment but you do have to wonder what on earth is happening at the club at the moment? Not a dicky bird from it about kits, season tickets, player and staff recruitment, absolutely nothing at all. There was a nice picture 10 minutes ago from the club twitter account showing a lovely green pitch but at this time of the year fans should be itching for something from the club to get excited about next season.

Are we to assume that Power has given up and the club are going to do the square root of fuckall until the ownership issues have taken place?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, June 9, 2021, 14:18:04

4. Dion Conroy (c) (DC - 2022)
5. Jonathan Grounds (DLC - 2022)
6. Mathieu Baudry (DC - 2022) 
8. Prett Bitman (ST - 2022) 
14. Ellis Iandolo (D/WBL/AML - 2022)
16. Akin Odimayo (DC - 2021)
18. Jack Payne (AMRLC - 2022)
19. Jordan Lyden (DM - 2022)
21. Taylor Curran (DC - 2023)
24. Rob Hunt (D/WBRL - 2022)
37. Harry Parsons (ST - YTS)

Odimayo offered a deal
Payne can walk if he wants
Parsons is a rookie
Curran is living his dad's dream
Lyden, Baudry, Iandolo and Conroy have long and proud injury records


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, June 9, 2021, 14:25:09
Excellent! HMS Piss the League is sinking!

God knows how McGreal got conned into this shit fest.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, June 9, 2021, 14:28:03
I know things are shit, but I find it highly unlikely that those will be the only players we will have when the season starts. The transfer window isn't even open yet...


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, June 9, 2021, 14:30:45
Plenty of players signing in advance of their contracts running down at the end of June.

I think Prot Vile have signed a handful already


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, June 9, 2021, 14:32:00
My point stands.

We will not be going into the new season without signing some players. I'm not expecting much to be excited about, but still.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Wednesday, June 9, 2021, 14:32:30
When are the players (I use plural loosely) due back for pre-season?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, June 9, 2021, 14:32:35
I know things are shit, but I find it highly unlikely that those will be the only players we will have when the season starts. The transfer window isn't even open yet...

The transfer window being open is irrelevant for us I imagine. we'll be operating on picking up freebies which we can utilise now if needed. I imagine McGreal and Jewell are probably working out what we can and can't do and who we can bring in shortly. I guess the Twine compensation has an impact on budget so we're probably waiting to see how much that brings in (although I guess it might go straight into someone's pocket if he can help it)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Abrahammer on Wednesday, June 9, 2021, 14:33:13
Well it is that time of year on the TEF, early June is when some people start to panic about making no signings

It’s a traditional even during the better periods in our history


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, June 9, 2021, 14:34:47
I disagree. I think we will only field half a team with no keeper and fans on the bench.

Our only hope is that the cloning of Curran is successful so we can stuff the team full of them.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, June 9, 2021, 14:36:38
Well it is that time of year on the TEF, early June is when some people start to panic about making no signings

It’s a traditional even during the better periods in our history

Personally there is no panic from me re signings, its just the surprise at the total nothingness from the club to try and build up some kind of interest about next season.

I'm not really expecting players to filter into the club until end of June, into July. McGreal isn't long into the club to be fair so these things are going to take a bit of time.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, June 9, 2021, 14:36:50
I disagree. I think we will only field half a team with no keeper and fans on the bench.

Our only hope is that the cloning of Curran is successful so we can stuff the team full of them.

We all dream of a team of Taylor Cs
A team of Taylor Cs!


Not all dreams are good dreams, of course...


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, June 9, 2021, 14:55:00
My point stands.

We will not be going into the new season without signing some players. I'm not expecting much to be excited about, but still.

Same every summer

I'm less irked by it this year due to all the uncertainty.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, June 9, 2021, 14:56:59
I wonder what will happen if MK Dongs can't afford the fee? usually with U23 transfers the fee is paid all up front rather than in installments like other transfers.

I would think with all the hype that has surrounded him this season that we would be due over £250k+ add ons and that would be the most they have spent on a player.

Their current record signing is £200,000 to Bristol City for Kieran Agard.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, June 9, 2021, 14:59:05
Same every summer

I'm less irked by it this year due to all the uncertainty.
Absolutely, if you check every other L2 forum the only team signing any players at the moment seems to be the Brizzle Sags, every other one is full of "when will we make some signings".

The players contracts aren't even up until 30th June and PdC had no players under contract for us at this same stage in his first season in charge and look how that went.

Its still very very early.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, June 9, 2021, 15:02:09
PdC had no players under contract for us at this same stage in his first season in charge and look how that went.

Yes, we ended up panic signing Ibrahim Atiku, Lander Gabilondo, Mattia Lanzano and Alberto Comazzi! You are of course right but perhaps not the greatest example of transfer business done well.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, June 9, 2021, 15:08:14
I still don’t think McGreal would have joined if he hadn’t received some acceptable assurances. I doubt he would have remained unemployed for long if he declined STFC.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, June 9, 2021, 15:43:23
I couldn't give a crap about player signing given the situation.  Wouldn't it be lovely if the EFL would let us have a Bye this round (this round being the season 21/22) at least then we would have time to sort out this shitshow of a club (hopefully)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, June 9, 2021, 15:58:53
More importantly what the fuck is Mildenhall doing all summer, he has no one to coach!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: MangoRed on Wednesday, June 9, 2021, 16:02:36
Well it is that time of year on the TEF, early June is when some people start to panic about making no signings

It’s a traditional even during the better periods in our history

Phil Brown 18/19 season first signing came on the 18th June,  feels like we will be waiting even longer this season....


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: tans on Wednesday, June 9, 2021, 16:12:23
More importantly what the fuck is Mildenhall doing all summer, he has no one to coach!

Doing the job that the director of football should be doing


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: singingiiiffy on Wednesday, June 9, 2021, 16:27:14
We all dream of a team of Taylor Cs
A team of Taylor Cs!


Not all dreams are good dreams, of course...

oooo curran taylor


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, June 9, 2021, 16:30:00
ooooooooh Taylor Curran, he used to be shit but he's even worse now.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, June 14, 2021, 17:04:49
Harry Parsons signs a pro contract (2 1/2 years)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, June 14, 2021, 17:08:04
Nice. Let’s hope McGreal likes to give young ‘uns a chance.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Monday, June 14, 2021, 17:52:01
Nice. Let’s hope McGreal likes to give young ‘uns a chance.
I'd prefer it if he didn't have to! But, I hope that Parsons is the next big thing.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, June 15, 2021, 07:53:20
Harry Parsons signs a pro contract (2 1/2 years)

Why would we give him 2 1/2 years at the start of a season - seems odd.  Surely it should be a 2 or 3 year deal..


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, June 15, 2021, 07:59:29
Why would we give him 2 1/2 years at the start of a season - seems odd.  Surely it should be a 2 or 3 year deal..

The official site states - The 18-year-old has signed a two-year deal at the County Ground with an option to extend and his new contract will take effect from July 1st.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, June 15, 2021, 08:02:46
Why would we give him 2 1/2 years at the start of a season - seems odd.  Surely it should be a 2 or 3 year deal..

2+1, not 2.5.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, June 15, 2021, 10:02:47
Ah, that makes more sense - shoddy reporting from FH


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, June 15, 2021, 10:59:12
Ah, that makes more sense - shoddy reporting from FH

Think the 2.5 came directly from the clubs Facebook article rather than FH


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, June 15, 2021, 12:52:22
Think the 2.5 came directly from the clubs Facebook article rather than FH

I'm sticking to blaming FH, blaming the club is a common as breathing these days - justifiably so, but still..  It's good to share..


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: tans on Friday, July 2, 2021, 14:15:14
Pierce Sweeney terminates contract


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: harrisonaw on Friday, July 2, 2021, 14:31:22
fuck sake


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: tans on Monday, July 5, 2021, 15:24:48
Some players actually turned up today


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, July 5, 2021, 15:28:19
Some players actually turned up today

The day 1 pictures that the club tweeted was pretty laughable. But just shows what a state we are in!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, July 5, 2021, 15:29:48
Some players actually turned up today

They did.... https://twitter.com/Official_STFC/status/1412069790181699589?s=20 Assume they still haven't ben paid.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: swindonmaniac on Monday, July 5, 2021, 15:33:08
They did.... https://twitter.com/Official_STFC/status/1412069790181699589?s=20 Assume they still haven't ben paid.
All four of them ??!!.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Pookemon on Monday, July 5, 2021, 15:51:57
All four of them ??!!.
It's not the same 4 - groups of 4 covid bubbles or something probably


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Monday, July 5, 2021, 16:52:32
anyone see Pitman?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, July 5, 2021, 16:56:40
anyone see Brett, Brett, Brett, Brett Pitman, Brett Pitman?

He was in photo 3.14 wasn't he?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Monday, July 5, 2021, 17:00:17
He was in photo 3.14 wasn't he?

That's a rather pie in the sky comment.

Very good  ;)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Monday, July 5, 2021, 17:00:53
oh ffs. I didn't get it z😭🤣😁😁


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Power to people on Monday, July 5, 2021, 18:30:54
So, which players turned up today ?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Posh Red on Wednesday, July 7, 2021, 11:08:57
I sponsored Akin Odimayo’s shirt last season and have been chasing the club for the signed shirt.

Have been told he’s not come back to training yet, which I guess you can’t blame him if he’s not getting paid.

Don’t know if you can read anymore into it about his future, as had been reported that he was being looked at by other clubs.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, July 7, 2021, 11:12:54
I wonder what impact him not being paid will have on getting any money for him if he leaves.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: tans on Wednesday, July 7, 2021, 11:28:44
He’s OOC anyway


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, July 7, 2021, 11:30:40
Surprised he hasn't found a new club yet to be honest (regardless of non-payment of wages)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, July 7, 2021, 11:34:50
He’s OOC anyway

I thought we had an option on him.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Power to people on Wednesday, July 7, 2021, 11:37:47
I thought we had an option on him.

Depends if it was triggered


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 7, 2021, 11:44:06
The club did say the new contract was triggered for Odimayo, no idea if he still has to accept it or not.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, July 7, 2021, 11:44:07
Don't think he played enough games for it to be triggered.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, July 7, 2021, 11:46:03
The club did say the new contract was triggered for Odimayo, no idea if he still has to accept it or not.

I'd see no point in such a clause if the player could just say no.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 7, 2021, 11:47:22
Don't think he played enough games for it to be triggered.
You could be right Rich, I do remember the club saying they had offered him a new contract, but of course if wages haven't been paid then he is in his rights to walk away anyway.

Probably the lure of Sheff Weds, Preston and Stoke dangling contracts in front of him has swayed that decision.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 7, 2021, 11:48:23
https://www.derbycounty.news/transfers/report-derby-target-akin-odimayo-stalls-on-contract-offer-owls-step-up-chase/


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, July 7, 2021, 12:18:04
I'd see no point in such a clause if the player could just say no.

Possibly give Power an excuse to drag his feet a few days more if some cash was incoming?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, July 7, 2021, 14:16:02
You could be right Rich, I do remember the club saying they had offered him a new contract, but of course if wages haven't been paid then he is in his rights to walk away anyway.

Probably the lure of Sheff Weds, Preston and Stoke dangling contracts in front of him has swayed that decision.

There were rumours of a mysterious injury... and also rumours that the club were forcing him to play in order to trigger the extension. Six of one...

As you imply, I don't think it would have made much difference.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Friday, July 9, 2021, 11:54:46
Thanks to whoever removed that prick Curran from the squad list.
I've been waiting a long time for this day.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nemo on Friday, July 9, 2021, 11:57:09
Pitman is an odd one, do we know his contractual situation? The retained list has him as under contract, but was definitely announced as a one-year and is on the first post.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Friday, July 9, 2021, 11:59:35
He triggered a one year extension. Be nice if he just moved on tbf


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nemo on Friday, July 9, 2021, 12:09:25
He triggered a one year extension. Be nice if he just moved on tbf

Didn't see him in the training pics so assume he may well be trying to!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, July 10, 2021, 09:20:36
Ben Mayhew's impressive (ly nerdy) squad churn spreadsheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ffjIoLGpr3p3XghioQJThPBawbhNPVxfjXwjFGSascE/edit#gid=0) now has STFC down to the lowest of the whole 92 for the amount of last years first team players retained in the squad at 29.8% after Curran's departure (it's worked out as a % of minutes played).

If Payne, Prett Bitman and Odimayo all leave that goes down to 17.5%, that would be less than half of the second lowest (interestingly, that's Doncaster).

Not really a surprise for anyone paying attention to the club, but maybe puts the squad building job in a bit of context of the rest of the league. League Two average is 55%


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Saturday, July 10, 2021, 09:54:51
Ben Mayhew's impressive (ly nerdy) squad churn spreadsheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ffjIoLGpr3p3XghioQJThPBawbhNPVxfjXwjFGSascE/edit#gid=0) now has STFC down to the lowest of the whole 92 for the amount of last years first team players retained in the squad at 29.8% after Curran's departure (it's worked out as a % of minutes played).

If Payne, Prett Bitman and Odimayo all leave that goes down to 17.5%, that would be less than half of the second lowest (interestingly, that's Doncaster).

Not really a surprise for anyone paying attention to the club, but maybe puts the squad building job in a bit of context of the rest of the league. League Two average is 55%

I love a good stat but this is a bit misleading.

I assume the point is - the lack of retained players will be a detriment to us...but...on the flip the large majority of our squad were gash and I personally (and I can’t imagine I’m alone) Am glad to see the back of.

On flip, flip side - it’s all about who gets bought in. If we bring in worse players (which is likely given the circumstances) the squad overhaul and these stat will be used as a reason why continuity is good.

If we managed to bring in better players and were table topping, this stat would be used as a reason as to why starting from scratch and clearing deadwood is the way to go...


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, July 10, 2021, 10:00:54
Every year we're told how important pre-season is to get the fitness levels required so it's hard to see how we can have a competive team for the first 1-2 months and that's assuming things are sorted out this week and players are brought in. Remember last season Pittman wasn't deemed match fit for several games before he played for 90 minutes and he was supposedly injury free when he signed.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, July 10, 2021, 10:03:06
Oh I agree that not many of last year's squad are worth retaining, but it's only misleading if you take it to mean "retain 100% and you'll be grand" as clearly last season's squad was not very good.

But having players who've met eachother and played together a bit is definitely an advantage, all other things being equal. Hence why most pre-season games full of trialists are a disjointed mess. Being absolutely rock bottom is definitely a bad place to be.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, July 10, 2021, 10:54:34
If we bring in worse players (which is likely given the circumstances)

Why is it likely?

Granted, a lot of players will already be taken, but in a few days we're likely to have a new owner. Why would the new owner not want to put together the best squad he can? I'm genuinely baffled.

*Although a few of our players last season were actually quite decent for a higher division, maybe that's what you mean?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 10, 2021, 10:58:29
Why is it likely?

Granted, a lot of players will already be taken, but in a few days we're likely to have a new owner. Why would the new owner not want to put together the best squad he can? I'm genuinely baffled.
I cant see us bring in much worse than the shit we had for last season, certainly from January onwards when Power was penny pinching.

I would like to think Clem will have enough funds to bring in players that will at least compete rather than roll over for their belly to be stroked and bring in a manager who at least cares and plays some half decent football again.

If its sorted early this week, which I am led to believe it could be, we should be aiming at midtable or higher with the resources he has promised us.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, July 10, 2021, 11:01:39
I cant see us bring in much worse than the shit we had for last season, certainly from January onwards when Power was penny pinching.

I would like to think Clem will have enough funds to bring in players that willa t least compete rather than roll over for their belly to be stroked and bring ina manager who at least cares and plays some half decent football again.

If its sorted early this week, which I am led to believe it could be, we should be aiming at midtable or higher with the resources he has promised us.

Agreed mate.

We will start with an obvious handicap, but I don't get the notion that things won't improve.

Why won't they improve - unless Clem is a shyster? I really don't get it.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, July 10, 2021, 11:05:39
It's all about whether the real shyster will conclude the deal in time to let us start the season and move forwards there after.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, July 10, 2021, 11:06:26
We're in League Two now and (most of) the best players will likely have their plans for next season fixed already. It's not questioning the people doing the recruiting to suggest it'll be a much tougher job than if we were still in League One and starting to think about this in April/May rather than mid-late July.

The comparison for me is perhaps with the PDC League Two season - which obviously worked out brilliantly but actually started out very rockily with a hastily assembled squad. That year we had the money to carry on bringing in players through the season as players turned out to not be what was needed (Comazzi, Lanzano, Clarke) and people became available who wouldn't have been over the summer.

Seems unlikely we'll have the chequebook we had that season, so it might be a bit rocky. I'm not suggesting we should be aiming to finish 22nd or anything like that, but we'll do very well to be anything like ready for the first few games of the season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Posh Red on Saturday, July 10, 2021, 11:07:04
Surely it’s all about how long it takes to get sorted.

I’d presume they will have players lined up to come in, but if it drags on for another couple of weeks will they get twitchy and look elsewhere.

Behind the scenes I’m sure things are moving on, but from the outside looking in we are still in the same place waiting for it to happen.

I’d agree that come January, assuming everything goes as planned, we will be in a position to strengthen the squad but it then depends on how far behind we might be.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Saturday, July 10, 2021, 11:10:14
It's all about whether the real shyster will conclude the deal in time to let us start the season and move forwards there after.

Maybe, just maybe his legal team will make him see sense, they must be aware of everything he has done, why and where money came from and went to. Hard to make a defence without all the information. They may personally not approve but that’s not their job. Their job is to get the best deal for their client based on the evidence before them. Same goes for Clem & Standings team. There is always the court and judge to use if necessary.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, July 10, 2021, 11:11:30
It does concern me what players will be left to choose from and I don't think there will be many hanging on for STFC to sign them the way things are at the moment.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, July 10, 2021, 11:12:54
We're in League Two now and (most of) the best players will likely have their plans for next season fixed already.

But this doesn't mean there's no decent players left.

A lot of business is done towards the end of the window anyway and that's when the best players tend to be picked up. I doubt anybody is expecting us to put together a promotion winning squad but, come on, there's no reason we can't still sign players of a decent standard and I am baffled that people are assuming otherwise.

And of course it depends on how much longer things go on for. I doubt anybody needs that explained to them. But, as things stand, we should have enough time to put something together. I suspect we have a few players already lined up just waiting to sign and things could be looking a lot better just one week from now.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, July 10, 2021, 11:13:01
Maybe, just maybe his legal team will make him see sense, they must be aware of everything he has done, why and where money came from and went to. Hard to make a defence without all the information. They may personally not approve but that’s not their job. Their job is to get the best deal for their client based on the evidence before them. Same goes for Clem & Standings team. There is always the court and judge to use if necessary.

Anyone know what the agenda I see for next week and any court cases planned


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Saturday, July 10, 2021, 11:15:51
We're in League Two now and (most of) the best players will likely have their plans for next season fixed already. It's not questioning the people doing the recruiting to suggest it'll be a much tougher job than if we were still in League One and starting to think about this in April/May rather than mid-late July.

The comparison for me is perhaps with the PDC League Two season - which obviously worked out brilliantly but actually started out very rockily with a hastily assembled squad. That year we had the money to carry on bringing in players through the season as players turned out to not be what was needed (Comazzi, Lanzano, Clarke) and people became available who wouldn't have been over the summer.

Seems unlikely we'll have the chequebook we had that season, so it might be a bit rocky. I'm not suggesting we should be aiming to finish 22nd or anything like that, but we'll do very well to be anything like ready for the first few games of the season.
I agree with all of your points, except putting Clarke in that bracket. He 'could' have been absolutely awesome and a big money departure 'if' someone could have managed him well. He had everything that you could want in a striker.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Saturday, July 10, 2021, 11:16:11
Flitcroft didn't do a bad job in assembling a competitive squad at fairly short notice. Not sure how the timescales compare directly though.

Suspect that there will be more bargains to be had later in this window than in previous years.
Hopefully the groundwork has been going on in the background as the fans have been chewing their fingernails.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, July 10, 2021, 11:19:47
I agree with all of your points, except putting Clarke in that bracket. He 'could' have been absolutely awesome and a big money departure 'if' someone could have managed him well. He had everything that you could want in a striker.

Two big egos clashing....literally down the tunnel😀


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, July 10, 2021, 11:19:58
Thanks to whoever removed that prick Curran from the squad list.
I've been waiting a long time for this day.

Should check when the edit was made...

EYES EMOJI


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, July 10, 2021, 11:22:14
I agree with all of your points, except putting Clarke in that bracket. He 'could' have been absolutely awesome and a big money departure 'if' someone could have managed him well. He had everything that you could want in a striker.

Agreed, but Clarke wasn't what we needed - not on the grounds of ability, but personality clash with a manager who was not going to accommodate him. I wasn't intending to say he wasn't a good footballer, just that he was a (presumably) expensive signing that didn't work out and needed replacing.

And FH, we don't particularly disagree. You just seem to want to pick out one sentence from a longer post and argue with it, even when your argument essentially is the rest of my post. It's clearly, obviously a disadvantage to be in the place we are now. It's not insurmountable, but it'll need some very good people to do a very good job to catch us up, and we should probably be understanding if it takes a while to get up to speed this season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 10, 2021, 11:26:43
I’d agree that come January, assuming everything goes as planned, we will be in a position to strengthen the squad but it then depends on how far behind we might be.
Bolton were in 12th place in January this season 8 points off 3rd place but went up via the autos.

With some good players, a good manager and a decent run I am sure teams that have been in the bottom half at Christmas have still gone up.

Its a huge ask but if we can get a fairly competitive side up together come the first few weeks of the season then I would never write us off.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, July 10, 2021, 11:27:00


And FH, we don't particularly disagree. You just seem to want to pick out one sentence from a longer post and argue with it, even when your argument essentially is the rest of my post. It's clearly, obviously a disadvantage to be in the place we are now. It's not insurmountable, but it'll need some very good people to do a very good job to catch us up.

It's not you who I'm disagreeing with. It's DV's comment that we will likely be signing worse players than last season that I'm questioning. I just don't get it and he's not the only one to say something like that.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Riddick on Saturday, July 10, 2021, 11:33:53

Suspect that there will be more bargains to be had later in this window than in previous years.
Hopefully the groundwork has been going on in the background as the fans have been chewing their fingernails.


Truth is that Wellens and others will tell you that the very best player doesnt move until very late in the window. They are players on the fringe of teams higher up who are waiting to get their business done, or free agents holding out for the best deal.

There is no reason to believe the best players have already been snapped up. Though for sure we will be behind the curve on identifying, and contacting these players.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, July 10, 2021, 11:35:13
Though for sure we will be behind the curve on identifying, and contacting these players.


Clem said weeks ago that he already had scouts scouting.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Saturday, July 10, 2021, 11:44:22
It does concern me what players will be left to choose from and I don't think there will be many hanging on for STFC to sign them the way things are at the moment.
I'm not.

Five loan players until January to supplement Wollacott, Hunt, Gounds, Baudry, Conroy, Iandolo and Lyden and Pitman (plus Parsons) would be OK. (I'm assuming Odimayo and Payne will leave). We'd only then need to sign one or two players but be paper thin with youths filling in for injuries.

Its quite interesting to see where our released players end up - So far one in L1 (Twine), two in L2 (Hope & Missilou) and two non-league (Broadbent and Curran).


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Saturday, July 10, 2021, 12:04:17
Wheeling and dealing in the loan market will be key as well.
If we can land 2 or 3 that would have expected to be operating in L1 then we could be in business.
Parent clubs might need to be persuaded that we'll be challenging for the play offs at least.
What's  more important, game time or being part of a squad near the top of the table.

I wonder if Matt Smith might reflect in years to come that he learned much more playing in a struggling side than sitting on the bench for a top 8 or 10 team.




Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 10, 2021, 12:12:01
Loan players for us and every team in L1 and L2 will be vital, its the difference between mid table and a top 3 side.

I just hope whoever comes in has an intimate scouting knowledge of the top teams youth systems and possibly maye have even worked with some of them before.

For me I am less concerned about us not competing as much as I will be truly grateful of having a club not run by a tightwad and the excitement of possibly having a great run of results and proving a lot of people wrong this coming season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, July 10, 2021, 12:17:55
If they can get the takeover done in the next few days or so, we might have a decent looking squad this time next week.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, July 10, 2021, 12:27:04
If the takeover happens within the next two weeks we have a chance.if not we may end up like Bolton grabbing anything that moves to make the numbers up before transfer deadline day....if allowed!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Saturday, July 10, 2021, 14:23:38
It's not you who I'm disagreeing with. It's DV's comment that we will likely be signing worse players than last season that I'm questioning. I just don't get it and he's not the only one to say something like that.

It’s 10th of July and we don’t have a manager or enough first team players to put out a team.
Nor do we have a pot to piss in and we can’t even pay the few players we have & are we even allowed to sign players currently?

...and despite what people on every want to believe this takeover is still dragging on.

That isn’t all going to suddenly get sorted over night. We are at a massive disadvantage and I imagine the first XI of the season will contain a lot of young players who won’t be up to the standard.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, July 10, 2021, 14:25:31
Good summary and spot on


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Saturday, July 10, 2021, 14:30:25
But the club will still be alive and more able to grow and flourish than it has been of late with this long black veil shrouding it!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, July 10, 2021, 14:32:27
That's also very true but all that will take time and who knows what next season will bring


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Saturday, July 10, 2021, 14:35:15
That's also very true but all that will take time and who knows what next season will bring
I'm intending on being a fan for a few more years yet!  :D


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: tans on Saturday, July 10, 2021, 14:41:49
Only a few more days until players can walk citing breach of contract


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, July 10, 2021, 14:45:03
I'm intending on being a fan for a few more years yet!  :D

I think we all are but would prefer to support them in the football league😀


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Quagmire on Saturday, July 10, 2021, 15:51:20
Only a few more days until players can walk citing breach of contract

This is my worry, I can see it getting there too.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, July 10, 2021, 15:52:16
I can't believe nobody has come in for them


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Quagmire on Saturday, July 10, 2021, 16:00:21
They probably will in 4 days time when they can walk away from their contracts.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, July 10, 2021, 16:04:35
They probably will in 4 days time when they can walk away from their contracts.

Is it definitely Wednesday? I have feeling it's not as simple as that.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Quagmire on Saturday, July 10, 2021, 16:20:20
Is it definitely Wednesday? I have feeling it's not as simple as that.

I thought that’s what Caddis said on your Podcast mate?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Private Fraser on Thursday, July 15, 2021, 16:57:30
As this was posted today, I guess it was today’s training session.

https://twitter.com/official_stfc/status/1415708218957963268?s=21


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, July 15, 2021, 18:00:50
I thought that’s what Caddis said on your Podcast mate?

Basically there's additional time added on to protect the club.

I suspect that within football the ability to walk at 14 days unpaid would result in a lot of contract shredding


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Riddick on Friday, July 16, 2021, 07:38:01
I see the Guardian article reference a planned signing that did in house media, before the McGreal departure and has since signed elsewhere. Was not aware of that story, do we know who that was?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Saxondale on Friday, July 16, 2021, 08:14:08
Presumably Pierce Sweeney.  Came from Exeter realised what a fuck up everything was went back to Exeter.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, July 16, 2021, 08:16:14
Presumably Pierce Sweeney.  Came from Exeter realised what a fuck up everything was went back to Exeter.

Going by the article, this is another one that we weren't told about.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Riddick on Friday, July 16, 2021, 08:29:22
Presumably Pierce Sweeney.  Came from Exeter realised what a fuck up everything was went back to Exeter.

I don't think so, that was announced and referenced seperately in the article. They also released his in house media interview. Its someone else, one of the McGreal Six i guess.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Friday, July 16, 2021, 08:45:07
Reads as one of the 6 to me.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nemo on Friday, July 16, 2021, 08:46:23
Assuming the McGreal six identities come out at some point, let's hope they're not looked back on as much of a miss looking back as the Bradley Wright-Phillips and Marlon Pack fuck up.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Processed Beats on Friday, July 23, 2021, 17:03:36
Grounds gone. Good. Never quite felt comfortably with him playing. Always felt he had a mistake in him.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: kaufman on Saturday, July 24, 2021, 07:34:39
If Grant and Mckirdy are signed then with a couple of strikers, the first 11 looks promising now the dust has settled.

There’s definitely a core of a side here that the coaching team can implement their ethos.

Cautiously optimistic.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: tans on Wednesday, July 28, 2021, 18:41:18
Harry Parsons signs a new and improved deal already


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, July 28, 2021, 22:24:10
Harry Parsons signs a new and improved deal already

There was an issue previously where Parsons had signed the contract but Anderson (or whoever) hadn't finished the job before everything went tits up last month. Harry could have walked etc.

The fact that the new regime have since improved it is a nice touch.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: tans on Thursday, July 29, 2021, 05:20:46
Anderson in not doing job properly shocker


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, July 29, 2021, 06:46:56
Anderson in not doing job properly shocker

These ones felt very deliberate.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Red Frog on Thursday, July 29, 2021, 07:19:57
A more generous theory would be that he didn’t feel able to make a commitment that the new regime would need to pick up.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, July 29, 2021, 07:23:36
Presume the offers to both Payne and Odimayo were equally derisory.

Hopefully revamped ones may see them both stay.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, July 29, 2021, 07:29:56
Presume the offers to both Payne and Odimayo were equally derisory.

Hopefully revamped ones may see them both stay.

Payne situation isn't the same. He's just got that release clause and I think he'd have gone by now if he was truly desperate to. Seemed happy with the Gladwin signing too.

Odimayo arrived on a very small pro football wage and was probably offered derisory fresh terms but here's hoping Odimayo returns with a contract all parties would be happy with.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Mplanney on Thursday, July 29, 2021, 07:30:43
Especially Odimayo, as Wellens said he was on very low wages when signed, but he started playing regularly and well, Wellens talking about improving the contract before he left, so doubt that was ever done and guessing the new contract was on the same wages, just to cover a fee if he left.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, July 29, 2021, 07:35:30
Clutching at straws, but I’d have thought Odimayo would have gone somewhere else by now - either training as trialist or actually signed.

On the pitch Saturday and job’s a good ‘un!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: tans on Thursday, July 29, 2021, 07:43:55
He may have been on trial down the a420 yesterday, some bloke on twitter reckoned he may have been anyway


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Thursday, July 29, 2021, 07:45:33
The fact we're due a compensation fee for Odimayo is perhaps putting a few clubs off him.

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Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, July 29, 2021, 08:55:57
Probably more for the transfer rumours than this thread but....

I am hearing that ex Town youngster and striker Owen Windsor coming in on loan from WBA is gaining momentum.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: tans on Friday, July 30, 2021, 06:59:22
Pitman leaves by mutual consent and signs for Bristol Rovers


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Friday, July 30, 2021, 07:06:30
Think he could still do a job with the right sort of attacking players playing around him and delivering.

Not the worst of the bunch last season but possibly the least mobile


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nemo on Friday, July 30, 2021, 07:08:17
Think he could still do a job with the right sort of attacking players playing around him and delivering.

Not the worst of the bunch last season but possibly the least mobile

Funny one. No doubt he could still contribute if you built a side to play to his strengths. But in a more dynamic system worse than useless. I'd rather we didn't have someone so tactically limiting in the squad at this stage.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Frigby Daser on Friday, July 30, 2021, 07:12:07
I was fearing he’d come back. Watching him try to run is a haunting memory from last year. He’ll score a few for them, but will completely change the way any side plays.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: tans on Friday, July 30, 2021, 07:15:19
He wont be fit till may.

His atttitude stunk, i apprectiate they didnt get paid, but the others turned up and grafted, he just went AWOL


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Friday, July 30, 2021, 07:20:16
I doubt the others had much choice + most of them were awol all last season.
Pitman at least played!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: hefty toe on Friday, July 30, 2021, 07:22:20
Good news re Pitman. Must have been one of the high earners.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Friday, July 30, 2021, 07:34:18
Good news re Pitman. Must have been one of the high earners.

BIB: Fair point, but we do now desparately need a replacement .


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: jevs on Friday, July 30, 2021, 07:42:49
Good news re Pitman. Must have been one of the high earners.

Absolutely, yes he's guaranteed to score against us but any player he beats for pace should be sacked on the spot.

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/bristol-rovers-confirm-signing-former-5719735

Look at that belly!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Friday, July 30, 2021, 07:43:04
The fact we're due a compensation fee for Odimayo is perhaps putting a few clubs off him.

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Maybe and feasible if it’s only L1 & 2 clubs looking, they’re strapped for cash, just like us and with an expected increase in PL and Championship clubs possibly offloading more than usual during the close season then pickings for those looking will be richer.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: hefty toe on Friday, July 30, 2021, 07:44:24
I think Wellens made a mistake with Pitman. If you want to play a high tempo pressing game Pitman isn't suited to that. He wasn't really a target man either. Actually think he was more of a crap Berbatov/number 10 type.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Friday, July 30, 2021, 07:48:37
He wont be fit till may.

His atttitude stunk, i apprectiate they didnt get paid, but the others turned up and grafted, he just went AWOL

You lead from the top, sadly there was no leadership. Taking it from ‘The Athletic’ piece the club was run like an amateur pub team and some of the players attitude matched it. I’m surprised they didn’t warm up smoking a fag and drinking a pint.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Friday, July 30, 2021, 07:53:39
Absolutely, yes he's guaranteed to score against us but any player he beats for pace should be sacked on the spot.

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/bristol-rovers-confirm-signing-former-5719735

Look at that belly!

“He will complement the exciting attacking options that we have already have and will play a big part in our quest to be successful this season."

They must have been overcome with fumes from the old gas storage dept. Exciting attacking options? Well, if they have a fast paced attacking line up he’ll be left in the centre circle when the and if they score.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, July 30, 2021, 08:04:03
“He will complement the exciting attacking options that we have already have and will play a big part in our quest to be successful this season."

They must have been overcome with fumes from the old gas storage dept. Exciting attacking options? Well, if they have a fast paced attacking line up he’ll be left in the centre circle when the and if they score.

He won't be in the centre circle. He'll rarely make it that far away from the penalty area.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: singingiiiffy on Friday, July 30, 2021, 08:08:43
Quote
He seems like a good professional so should be looking after himself

gas thread is full of highlights from 5 years ago+ when he was trim. I won't say he wont score goals for them as he may well do but there was no obvious way to get the best out of him last season- even at the start when we actually had options around him. set pieces and 6 yard box scraps. o well not our problem and genuinely pleased he has gone. hopefully a youthful front line


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Friday, July 30, 2021, 08:30:16
He won't be in the centre circle. He'll rarely make it that far away from the penalty area.

There’s or the opposition?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Crackity Jones on Friday, July 30, 2021, 08:32:09
Had we had a proper pre season with a full complement of staff I would have been happy to keep Pitman. I think he will score goals in league 2. However, given where we are - we can't wait until next year for him to work off the pies so meh


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Friday, July 30, 2021, 09:21:20
He will score goals and would have scored goals for us, but the football we would've had to play to accomodate him is boring as fuck. I think we can replace his goals with a more dynamic and interesting player.


Title: Re: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, July 30, 2021, 13:01:23
“He will complement the exciting attacking options that we have

In light of recent news reports I am not sure the gas manager being excited about complementing attacking options is necessarily a good thing?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Friday, July 30, 2021, 13:05:08
Salford
Gas
FGR
Orient
Early favourites


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: AldbourneRed on Thursday, August 5, 2021, 13:58:26
Conroy named Captain again for this season, with Payne as Vice Captain


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: RWB Robin on Thursday, August 5, 2021, 13:59:38
Great loyalty.  That will go down well with players


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, August 5, 2021, 14:16:10
Out of interest what happened to Jimmy, he used to post like a trooper and hasn't been seen for ages?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: ibelieveinmrreeves on Thursday, August 5, 2021, 14:18:43
Gone off in a sulk most likely over his account being 'hacked'.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, August 5, 2021, 14:26:30
Gone off in a sulk most likely over his account being 'hacked'.

Oh right, is that the subtle name change? I assume it was done a la Audrey and he didn't like it?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, August 5, 2021, 14:36:27
It seemed to me that he was threatening to report it at one point. 


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, August 5, 2021, 14:43:48
It seemed to me that he was threatening to report it at one point. 

Ah ok. Perhaps he has gone to form a clique with Jeff the Ref.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, August 5, 2021, 14:49:03
Ah ok. Perhaps he has gone to form a clique with Jeff the Ref.

Geoff, it’s Geoff.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: JoeMezz on Thursday, August 5, 2021, 14:57:40
Realistically how far off are of having a team that could compete to get into the playoffs? Would say 3/4 including a goalscorer


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, August 5, 2021, 15:04:37
Realistically how far off are of having a team that could compete to get into the playoffs? Would say 3/4 including a goalscorer

I think if the striker or 2 we bring in can show a statement of intent on the same level as Gladwin or Payne for instance and also recruit well at LB and CB then I don't think we'll be too far away. That said, our preparation and lack of pre-season and cohesion makes it a tough ask regardless of who we bring in. Next season is when we are likely to be excited but if we get into the play-offs this season we'll have done bloody well!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, August 5, 2021, 15:24:56
It seemed to me that he was threatening to report it at one point. 

Report it to who, the Internet Police?

Geoff, it’s Geoff.

Our neighbour, who is a lovely bloke, I always assumed he was Geoff but transpires after 5 years he is actually Jeff, this has played with my mind for some reason he doesn't look like a Jeff!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Thursday, August 5, 2021, 15:28:38
I'm still about guys😀


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, August 5, 2021, 15:29:43
I'm still about guys😀

welcome back Jimmy.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Thursday, August 5, 2021, 15:30:23
 :nod: :nod:


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, August 5, 2021, 15:38:38
I think if the striker or 2 we bring in can show a statement of intent on the same level as Gladwin or Payne for instance and also recruit well at LB and CB then I don't think we'll be too far away. That said, our preparation and lack of pre-season and cohesion makes it a tough ask regardless of who we bring in. Next season is when we are likely to be excited but if we get into the play-offs this season we'll have done bloody well!
I think we have to be careful here.

Lets try not to pin too much on Gladwin - He was on the up when he left, but is he the same player now? He went through a purple patch prior to leaving but was equally as disappointing at times. Injury ravaged 3 years a Blackburn and a 'steady' year with MK last year. Hopefully he can reproduce his past glories with us, and if he does he will be awesome in this division. But that is not a certainty!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: JoeMezz on Thursday, August 5, 2021, 15:41:08
I think if the striker or 2 we bring in can show a statement of intent on the same level as Gladwin or Payne for instance and also recruit well at LB and CB then I don't think we'll be too far away. That said, our preparation and lack of pre-season and cohesion makes it a tough ask regardless of who we bring in. Next season is when we are likely to be excited but if we get into the play-offs this season we'll have done bloody well!

Can’t really argue with that. Fully expecting bottom by November but pick up as the season goes. Remember Barnsley going on a similar run a few years back in L1


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: 4D on Thursday, August 5, 2021, 15:42:00
Our traditional Winter push  ::)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, August 5, 2021, 15:43:19
I think we have to be careful here.

Lets try not to pin too much on Gladwin - He was on the up when he left, but is he the same player now? He went through a purple patch prior to leaving but was equally as disappointing at times. Injury ravaged 3 years a Blackburn and a 'steady' year with MK last year. Hopefully he can reproduce his past glories with us, and if he does he will be awesome in this division. But that is not a certainty!

No you are absolutely right. Signing Gladwin is a huge risk but Franchise fans have said if he can stay fit he should really be playing in league 1 minimum. I hope they are right. All I was trying to emphasise was that Gladwin is potentially a standout player at this level and if we can recruit similarly up front, we could be in for a good season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Thursday, August 5, 2021, 15:47:02
:nod: :nod:

Nil illegitimi carborundum :)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Thursday, August 5, 2021, 15:49:16
 :clap: :clap:


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, August 5, 2021, 15:51:43
No you are absolutely right. Signing Gladwin is a huge risk but Franchise fans have said if he can stay fit he should really be playing in league 1 minimum. I hope they are right. All I was trying to emphasise was that Gladwin is potentially a standout player at this level and if we can recruit similarly up front, we could be in for a good season.
I really hope it works out for Gladwin and his injuries are behind him. Would be wonderful if we could build a really strong foundation that would only need minor tweaks to progress - Like Macari/Ardiles/Hoddle's team of the late 80s.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: JanAirplaneMan on Friday, August 6, 2021, 12:05:27
Hi guys have we got an up to date squad list now post recent signings


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, August 6, 2021, 12:08:08
It looks up to date. Grant was our last signing and he's up there.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Friday, August 6, 2021, 12:18:32
16 pros eh. Definitely need more bodies.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Friday, August 6, 2021, 12:31:32
Nil illegitimi carborundum :)

Funny. That will be the t shirt of choice for tomorrow, English version, courtesy of The Men They Couldn't Hang.

With the proposed reintroduction of Latin into schools at least the youth of tomorrow won't have to resort to Google to translate.

Venient super te reds.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: 4D on Friday, August 6, 2021, 12:34:41
Romanes eunt domus  :)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: kaufman on Saturday, August 7, 2021, 09:59:51
I see East has been included. Couldn’t see Reed.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Saturday, August 7, 2021, 12:13:34
That isn't a bad squad at all when you look at it to start with. Gotta be getting another striker in though.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, August 7, 2021, 12:16:15
That isn't a bad squad at all when you look at it to start with. Gotta be getting another striker in though.
I agree, a young striker prospect and 1 experienced striker are a priority now.

I see Akinde is trialling at Oldham, I am not a fan of his but he knows where the goal is in L2.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Power to people on Sunday, August 8, 2021, 08:42:34
19 man squad now, that is good going, I'd suggest we need to strengthen up front and in defence, maybe another experienced player, or do we have enough...we now have a lot of youngsters they may need that extra guidance at times.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Sunday, August 8, 2021, 08:43:48
I think in time we will see Baudry move to be that experience coming from te bench


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Sunday, August 8, 2021, 08:58:57
Another winger and a left back it looks to me.

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Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: kaufman on Sunday, August 8, 2021, 18:27:30
I don't think they're done with the midfield and it wasn't until yesterday that I can see why.
Once a few injuries may kick in we need the strength in depth for sure. Just a case of keeping all those players happy if they all stay fit with our new shiny medical and conditioning team.

It'll be Kelly and one other (George Mceachran still rumoured)
That will be the midfield sorted and then it'll be a couple of forwards, one which might be also be able to play wide.
Wouldn't rule out another defender but I think Romany can fill the LB role as well as CB.
Hunt is a great player to have as he can play either side as we know.

Once that's sorted then maybe a couple of the younger one we'll see go out on loan.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Sunday, August 8, 2021, 18:39:09
I don't think they're done with the midfield and it wasn't until yesterday that I can see why once a few injuries may kick in.
It'll be Kelly and one other (George Mceachran still rumoured)
That will be the midfield sorted and then it'll be a couple of forwards, one which might be also be able to play wide.
Wouldn't rule out another defender but I think Romany can fill the LB role as well as CB.
Hunt is a great player to have as he can play either side as we know.

Interestingly BG said said he was looking for quality over quantity. Fair enough but there is a delicate balancing act with a ‘tight’ budget at any level and especially at our level and precarious financial position. That said if you’re looking to load a team with inexpensive injury prone players then you’ll need more. Going for quality then you’d expect to pay a bit more in W hich case you’ll have less bodies. Worth remembering as I said that recently Clem is not, how shall I put this? Using the club to feed a voracious beast and there IS by inference more money to spend (within the EFL/FA embargo rules) but I’d suggest more of the budget on less players, see how it looks, then when the window opens in January then dip into the market as required.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: kaufman on Sunday, August 8, 2021, 19:28:57
I think you're right to highlight the injury prone players there.
Garner did say that he doesn't see us having a squad of 30 or 40 players like some league 2 sides last season. We're on 19 so that's why I thought a total of 23-24 players is a decent amount.

It's all if, buts and maybe's but January could be very exciting depending on whether the FA/EFL have gone through their investigation with us.
I need to stop. It's one bloody game.
Let's see if someone comes through the door Monday.
I'd expect Odimayo and Romaney to be a big part of the back before too long.
Very much looking forward to seeing Reed play, alongside Grant hopefully.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: swindonmaniac on Sunday, August 8, 2021, 20:01:56

Let's see if someone comes through the door Monday.

Fuck,  HMRC haven't caught up with us already have they. Must be another ITK'er.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, August 9, 2021, 15:03:24
Just looking at the squad list and we only have 3x non English players, this must be very low for modern football.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, August 9, 2021, 15:08:33
Just looking at the squad list and we only have 3x non English players, this must be very low for modern football.
Pretty sure its just 2, Baudry and Lyden, I think Dabre was born in London.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, August 9, 2021, 15:12:43
That did occur to me watching the game on Saturday. 'Frenchy' was the only non-English player in the side (can't believe that's his nickname...it's like footballers are stuck in 1973 or something...even if they weren't born then) :D


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, August 9, 2021, 15:24:33
Pretty sure its just 2, Baudry and Lyden, I think Dabre was born in London.

Dunno, was purely looking on Wackipedia and they seem to think he is French. He doesn't have his own page.


Title: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Monday, August 9, 2021, 16:04:44
nothing wrong with his nickname.

quite enjoyed Gregg Davis stand up bit on nicknames. he has a mate called 'bagdad', nothing to do with him being linked to the middle East, just his dad bought him a dodgy school bag.

two I remember from school, the very non PC 'cabbage', so could because he seemingly couldn't do anything. even his girlfriend called him that .

mouldy.. because he had a green coat

anyway, I think Frenchy was thus before he arrived at town. I remember the away commentators calling him that when we played one of his former teams last year (my 'Brian'  can't remember who)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Hunk on Monday, August 9, 2021, 16:15:44
nothing wrong with his nickname.

quite enjoyed Gregg Davis stand up bit on nicknames. he has a mate called 'bagdad', nothing to do with him being linked to the middle East, just his dad bought him a dodgy school bag.

two I remember from school, the very non PC 'cabbage', so could because he seemingly couldn't do anything. even his girlfriend called him that .

mouldy.. because he had a green coat

anyway, I think Frenchy was thus before he arrived at town. I remember the away commentators calling him that when we played one of his former teams last year (my 'Brian'  can't remember who)

My nickname at school was Lemon, eventually shortened to Lem. It was because I panicked once in science when asked a question I didn’t know the answer to and just blurted out ‘lemon!!!’.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: mozalini on Monday, August 9, 2021, 16:22:26
Unless I have forgotten someone, we just have 3 loan players in so far (KKH, Chrichlow and Simpson).  I'd expect at least a couple of our last few signings to be loanees.  If you are near the top of the league playing decent football with a good coaching set up then you will be lent better players.

Word will have got around that STFC was not a good place to send young talent last year.  Lee Power's original business model worked to start with during the Cooper years, but fell apart at the seams as soon as he appointed Flitcroft onwards.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, August 9, 2021, 16:24:56
nothing wrong with his nickname.

quite enjoyed Gregg Davis stand up bit on nicknames. he has a mate called 'bagdad', nothing to do with him being linked to the middle East, just his dad bought him a dodgy school bag.

two I remember from school, the very non PC 'cabbage', so could because he seemingly couldn't do anything. even his girlfriend called him that .

mouldy.. because he had a green coat

anyway, I think Frenchy was thus before he arrived at town. I remember the away commentators calling him that when we played one of his former teams last year (my 'Brian'  can't remember who)
Just to clarify....I wasn't 'outraged' or anything by the Frenchy nickname... just thought it was very unimaginative and a bit dated... pretty sure Marley would come up with something much better 😉


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Chippyred on Monday, August 9, 2021, 16:39:00
Maybe Baudry's nickname should be douglas barder as people are always saying his legs have gone.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, August 9, 2021, 16:40:33
Thought he was excellent on Saturday....


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Chippyred on Monday, August 9, 2021, 16:45:41
Ive never taken to him i have to admit.  Thought it ridiculous to give a 2 year contract to a player wellens at time said we would be lucky to get 25 games in a season from him.  That after saying he wasnt up to 3 games a week when we went up.  I think the Huddersfield lad will be better and when akin is fit id play both ahead of baudry.  Just my view and luckily i dont pick the team.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Hunk on Monday, August 9, 2021, 16:52:29
Once Odimayo is back I don’t expect to see much of Baudry, but I do think he’s very useful backup. When we need an experienced head in defence if Odi is having a bad game/is injured I think we’ll be very glad Frenchy is still around


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, August 9, 2021, 16:53:10
Thought he was excellent on Saturday....

Not me, his reading of the game was atrocious at times.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: singingiiiffy on Monday, August 9, 2021, 16:54:04
Thought he was excellent on Saturday....

i was ok with him for the majority but much like our cbs last season the ball over the top causes issues (2nd half he had quite a few wobbles) and his reaction is so slow. im happy to have him as a back up but there are better options ahead now especially with odimayo.  


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, August 9, 2021, 17:00:22
Not me, his reading of the game was atrocious at times.
You certainly get very different perspectives of the game depending on how / where you watched it from. Simpson for example looked far more effective on the video highlights than what I saw 'live' on Saturday...


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, August 9, 2021, 17:03:54
i was ok with him for the majority but much like our cbs last season the ball over the top causes issues (2nd half he had quite a few wobbles) and his reaction is so slow. im happy to have him as a back up but there are better options ahead now especially with odimayo. 

I suspect he will lose his place to Odemeyo or Crichlow pretty quickly but I'm sure he will continue to be a key member of the squad, in terms of just having him on the bench and having a really positive influence in the changing room...


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, August 9, 2021, 17:27:27
You certainly get very different perspectives of the game depending on how / where you watched it from. Simpson for example looked far more effective on the video highlights than what I saw 'live' on Saturday...
Absolutely mate, I thought watching on iFollow he was the weak link at the back.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, August 9, 2021, 17:27:51
Dunno, was purely looking on Wackipedia and they seem to think he is French. He doesn't have his own page.

https://nr.soccerway.com/players/mohammad-dabre/755742/


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Monday, August 9, 2021, 20:08:03
lemon 🍋 nickname is good. does anyone still call you that?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: digby on Wednesday, August 25, 2021, 09:20:44
Town have a 'monumental' player in Jonny Williams ! Came across this tribute to him while visiting Harlech Castle. Apparently there is one for each of the squad as came across another in Caernarfon- are they sited near their birthplace ? 🤔


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: donkey on Wednesday, August 25, 2021, 20:12:35
Town have a 'monumental' player in Jonny Williams ! Came across this tribute to him while visiting Harlech Castle. Apparently there is one for each of the squad as came across another in Caernarfon- are they sited near their birthplace ? 🤔

That's awesome.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, August 27, 2021, 10:40:48
KKH called up for England’s U20 squad for a game v Romania next month. Not sure how many games he’ll miss. Hopefully, just the one.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, August 27, 2021, 10:43:28
KKH called up for England’s U20 squad for a game v Romania next month. Not sure how many games he’ll miss. Hopefully, just the one.

According to the Adver just the boycott game.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bogus Dave on Tuesday, August 31, 2021, 05:37:16
Anthony Grant called up for Jamaica


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: tans on Tuesday, August 31, 2021, 07:10:21
Does this mean we can postpone Saturdays game


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, August 31, 2021, 08:00:09
Does this mean we can postpone Saturdays game

Surely it's too late notice? I and I am sure many others have their Stevenage tickets already.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Crackity Jones on Tuesday, August 31, 2021, 08:02:02
Anthony Grant called up for Jamaica
Is this his first senior call up? Wiki suggests so.  If it is then kudos for getting noticed at the age of 34 :clap:


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Cheltred on Tuesday, August 31, 2021, 08:02:56
Surely it's too late notice? I and I am sure many others have their Stevenage tickets already.
Has to be 3 out anyway doesn't it!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, August 31, 2021, 08:05:27
Has to be 3 out anyway doesn't it!

Yeah, Williams and Grant is only 2. KKH is in the England U20s but only misses a boycott game next week.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, August 31, 2021, 08:24:24
It looks like we will miss Grant for the Port Vale game as well as Jamaica are playing Costa Rica on the 9th Sept


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bogus Dave on Tuesday, August 31, 2021, 08:27:26
Yeah, Williams and Grant is only 2. KKH is in the England U20s but only misses a boycott game next week.

I don’t know how it works, but the England under/20s game is on Monday. I’d have been suprised if he was available on Saturday, despite what the adver reported


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, August 31, 2021, 08:29:30
Grant may have to quarantine for 10 days when he’s back, aren’t Mexico and Costa Rica both on the red list?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, August 31, 2021, 08:30:38
Now it's getting complicated 😀


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, August 31, 2021, 08:38:41
The adver guy reckons the Stevenage game might be off.

Swindon midfielder Anthony Grant has been selected by Jamaica to play in the senior side's World Cup qualifiers for the first time.

He won't be able to play against Panama at home due to UK quarantine rules, but Grant could make his Reggae Boyz debut in away games against Mexico on Thursday, September 2 or against Costa Rica on Wednesday, September 8.

I've poked the club for confirmation, but one would assume this means Town's next two games - against Stevenage and Arsenal U21 - will be postponed.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, August 31, 2021, 11:17:16
Quote from: Quagmire
Grant may have to quarantine for 10 days when he’s back, aren’t Mexico and Costa Rica both on the red list?

ouch. good point


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: cheltred69 on Tuesday, August 31, 2021, 19:19:44
So Grant won’t be available until the Colchester game on 25th September. Wonder how fit he’ll be after 10 days cocooned in a hotel room too.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, August 31, 2021, 19:21:49
Is he that desperate to make his debut for Jamaica at his age considering he was born in the U.K. and played for England under 19's


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: cheltred69 on Tuesday, August 31, 2021, 19:24:05
I saw something from a few months back saying he was going through process of obtaining a Jamaican passport to become eligible, so would guess it is something he wants a fair bit.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, August 31, 2021, 19:25:29
Maybe to move there later on in life


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, August 31, 2021, 19:25:57
I saw something from a few months back saying he was going through process of obtaining a Jamaican passport to become eligible, so would guess it is something he wants a fair bit.
And fair play to him, to play at full international level is a huge achievement.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, August 31, 2021, 19:26:35
You're asking why a player wouldn't want to play internationally?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, August 31, 2021, 19:26:45
Is he that desperate to make his debut for Jamaica at his age considering he was born in the U.K. and played for England under 19's

If I were in his shoes I’d jump at the chance. Even just for the one cap so I could say I’d played international football (and so Rich could ask me where it is in years to come) Nationality doesn’t really play a big part in international football anymore.

Realistically at his age and the distance. He’s not going to have a massive international career and probably not likely to get to any major tournaments either.

For STFC - Grant can’t go on forever anyway, so a chance to see what life would be like without him


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, August 31, 2021, 19:27:20
not exactly got time on his side, hope he gets in the squad/game time


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, August 31, 2021, 19:28:59
If I were in his shoes I’d jump at the chance. Even just for the one cap so I could say I’d played international football (and so Rich could ask me where it is in years to come) Nationality doesn’t really play a big part in international football anymore.

Realistically at his age and the distance. He’s not going to have a massive international career and probably not likely to get to any major tournaments either.

For STFC - Grant can’t go on forever anyway, so a chance to see what life would be like without him


Fair points with you make let's hope he gets some game time.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, August 31, 2021, 19:30:08
You're asking why a player wouldn't want to play internationally?

Normal circumstances no but thinking of the Covid rules


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: tans on Tuesday, August 31, 2021, 19:51:32
Jamaica arent that bad a team either

REGGAE BOYZ


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, August 31, 2021, 19:52:48
Fitzroy done ok


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, September 1, 2021, 09:03:55
When Grant goes who is likely to play in his position? Hasn't Reed been playing there reasonably well for the last couple of games which has buggered Grants game up a bit, might be worried at not getting back in if that continues while he is away?

On a wider note, have the FL agreed to release players to play in red zones, I thought both the PL and FL had said no (leading to some whining from FIFA) or has than changed now?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, September 1, 2021, 09:47:51
Iandolo played there against Scunny


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, September 1, 2021, 14:51:06
Jonny Williams starts for Wales v Finland in Oslo this evening.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Wednesday, September 1, 2021, 14:57:20
But he can't be match fit😀


Title: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, September 1, 2021, 15:01:36
Quote
Jonny Williams starts for Wales v Finland in Oslo this evening.
wonder why we've not played him much. surely he's too good for the bench


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Kinky Tom on Wednesday, September 1, 2021, 15:07:18
Jonny Williams starts for Wales v Finland in Oslo this evening.

I had in mind to watch it in case he came on, I'll definitely put it on now.  I definitely remember him looking really dangerous, probably in 2016 against England, and thinking, please take him off.  Hopefully he does well.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, September 1, 2021, 15:10:27
I had in mind to watch it in case he came on, I'll definitely put it on now.  I definitely remember him looking really dangerous, probably in 2016 against England, and thinking, please take him off.  Hopefully he does well.

What channel is it on?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, September 1, 2021, 15:15:37
Sky Sports. Starts 17.00


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, September 1, 2021, 15:17:20
Sky Sports. Starts 17.00

Danke


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, September 1, 2021, 15:19:10
Parakalo


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: cheltred69 on Wednesday, September 1, 2021, 17:17:44
Just saw this so thought I’d give it a view. Cue Williams being substituted!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, September 1, 2021, 17:22:46
Quote
37 mins
Post update
Finland 0-0 Wales
Jonny Williams always looks really good in a Wales shirt.

I know it's not that simple and that a million factors go into these things, but with the greatest of respect to Swindon Town, he's too good for League Two, isn't he?

From the BBC Sport live text.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Wednesday, September 1, 2021, 17:23:56
It's quite bizarre how nobody in league one or the championship wanted him.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: tans on Wednesday, September 1, 2021, 17:24:36
I can only think there is a clause in his contract allowing him to leave if bigger clubs come in


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Wednesday, September 1, 2021, 17:25:25
Good shout


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Wednesday, September 1, 2021, 17:34:47
Just saw this so thought I’d give it a view. Cue Williams being substituted!
Ditto - but I even missed the substitution!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Pookemon on Wednesday, September 1, 2021, 18:01:54
How come he starts for Wales but we only play him for 20 mins.   Perhaps it's all we could afford


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, September 1, 2021, 18:07:27
How come he starts for Wales but we only play him for 20 mins.   Perhaps it's all we could afford

Must be on a massive goals & assists bonus so we can’t play him too much and let him set up too many goals.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: mastapeaka on Wednesday, September 1, 2021, 19:49:06
Must be on a massive goals & assists bonus so we can’t play him too much and let him set up too many goals.

Think maybe Garner is playing a med-long game, so it’s not all about JW. Also we’ve known he’ll be off for the international break so makes sense not to make him a pivotal part of the side prior to going off. Think he, and the expectation around him, has been managed very well so far.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: tans on Friday, September 3, 2021, 03:11:33
Grant starts for Jamaica


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, September 3, 2021, 04:57:29
The U21 game v Romania, which KKH was called up for, has been cancelled due to Covid.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, September 3, 2021, 04:58:57
Grant starts for Jamaica
Lost 2-1 to a last minute goal.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, September 3, 2021, 05:32:00
The U21 game v Romania, which KKH was called up for, has been cancelled due to Covid.
As the outbreak was within the England squad, how will this affect KKH and STFC?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Private Fraser on Friday, September 3, 2021, 06:59:34
Grant starts for Jamaica

  :clap:

https://twitter.com/jiff1967/status/1433610930978492422?s=20



Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bogus Dave on Friday, September 3, 2021, 07:30:05
He was called up to the under 20’s, not the under 21’s


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, September 3, 2021, 08:00:20
As the outbreak was within the England squad, how will this affect KKH and STFC?

He's in the Under 20's Aud.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Red Frog on Friday, September 3, 2021, 09:34:00
Lost 2-1 to a last minute goal.

Sounds like he must have been busy - 27% possession, 5 shots vs 27. He was subbed, but I don't know when.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: 4D on Friday, September 3, 2021, 09:39:55
Subbed in the 87th. His stats looked decent. 92% pass success.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, September 3, 2021, 09:48:41
Jamaica fan on Twitter reckoned that substitution cost them a draw.

‘Why take off your holding midfielder with 3 minutes to go. Cost us a point.’


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Friday, September 3, 2021, 10:39:41
‘Why take off your holding midfielder with 3 minutes to go. Cost us a point.’

Does seem tactically illogical on the face of it.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, September 5, 2021, 04:37:10
Grant plays for Jamaica away to Costa Rica on Thursday. They are on the red list. I reckon Grant won’t be available to play for us until home v Colchester on the 25th - missing the league games v Vale and Cobblers. Presuming during that time Lyden will be ready to play.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Sunday, September 5, 2021, 09:09:34
Sounds like Williams will likely play again due to Wales' injury/visa issues.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Sunday, September 5, 2021, 13:39:56
Sounds like Williams will likely play again due to Wales' injury/visa issues.

Or not. Wales losing 2-1.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, September 5, 2021, 14:55:08
Wales win 3-2. Williams gets 30 odd minutes.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, September 5, 2021, 14:56:38
What did he play like


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: RWB Robin on Sunday, September 5, 2021, 15:22:02
BBC suggests very positive running and ability to remain upright made a very positive contribution to the game.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, September 5, 2021, 15:25:56
BBC suggests very positive running and ability to remain upright made a very positive contribution to the game.

That's excellent I thought for a minute you were going to say his running was all too negative, he couldn't stay upright and that he didn't contribute anything positive to the game!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, September 6, 2021, 04:52:02
Jamaica got dicked 3-0 at home to Panama. No Grant in the side.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Monday, September 6, 2021, 07:50:57
Jamaica got dicked 3-0 at home to Panama. No Grant in the side.

I wonder if that was a selection choice or whether he travelled home earlier to miss less time with us.

...of perhaps authorities decided to deport him before kick off


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Private Fraser on Monday, September 6, 2021, 08:09:37
Other players who weren't available for the Mexico game became available for this one so The General was one of those 'rested' yesterday. Some interesting bits from Twitter:

https://twitter.com/jff_football/status/1434558637222027277?s=20

https://twitter.com/jff_football/status/1434211272220893184?s=20

https://twitter.com/jff_football/status/1434211274322288645?s=20


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Monday, September 6, 2021, 08:19:57
Other players who weren't available for the Mexico game became available for this one so The General was one of those 'rested' yesterday. Some interesting bits from Twitter:

https://twitter.com/jff_football/status/1434558637222027277?s=20

https://twitter.com/jff_football/status/1434211272220893184?s=20

https://twitter.com/jff_football/status/1434211274322288645?s=20

Outrageous stats from Grant. Sounds like a top performance.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, September 14, 2021, 09:20:31
Team photo day today.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Miles Mayhem on Tuesday, September 14, 2021, 11:35:39
I hope they have all remembered to brush their hair.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Tuesday, September 14, 2021, 13:08:44
Any news on the injuries to Baudry & Lyden? Seems to have gone very quiet on that front  :hmmm:


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Posh Red on Tuesday, September 14, 2021, 13:17:56
Any news on the injuries to Baudry & Lyden? Seems to have gone very quiet on that front  :hmmm:

I thought they had said Saturday that both were back in full training albeit not ready for selection yet


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 14, 2021, 13:22:02
I thought they had said Saturday that both were back in full training albeit not ready for selection yet
I think they said back in training but not full training, I could be wrong though, TBH we haven't really missed them.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, September 14, 2021, 13:24:47
I think they said back in training but not full training, I could be wrong though, TBH we haven't really missed them.

I dunno, we could have done with Lyden on Saturday I reckon.

I'm not fussed about Baudry, though.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 14, 2021, 13:26:52
I dunno, we could have done with Lyden on Saturday I reckon.

I'm not fussed about Baudry, though.
I think we missed Grant more than anyone on Saturday TBH and think we will miss him again on Saturday too :(


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: tans on Monday, September 27, 2021, 18:02:29
Jojo Wollacott in provisional squad for Ghana national team


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Monday, September 27, 2021, 18:12:00
well deserved.

have to say my expectation was of an average keeper. But so far he's well exceeded that


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: tans on Monday, September 27, 2021, 18:15:59
So for the foret green game we could be potentially be missing

Wollacott
Grant
Williams
KKH
Gilbert


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Monday, September 27, 2021, 18:27:59
Quote from: tans
So for the foret green game we could be potentially be missing

Wollacott
Grant
Williams
KKH
Gilbert

I assume we can't take call it off because of the TV money


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, September 28, 2021, 07:04:47
Big problem with JoJo is their midweek game us v Zimbabwe in Harare and they are on the UK red list.

So another 10 days after that. Being selfish, hopefully being in the provisional squad doesn’t actually mean he definitely travels for the games.

Not sure about Jamaica and Grant. Hopefully he’s not off anywhere ‘red’.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: STFC_Gazza on Tuesday, September 28, 2021, 07:15:28
I assume we can't take call it off because of the TV money

Portsmouth v Plymouth was due to be on Sky earlier this season but called off by Plymouth because of international call ups, so I se no reason why we couldn't do the same

https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/sport/football/plymouth-argyle-clash-portsmouth-postponed-5804404


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, September 28, 2021, 08:31:21
Portsmouth v Plymouth was due to be on Sky earlier this season but called off by Plymouth because of international call ups, so I se no reason why we couldn't do the same

https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/sport/football/plymouth-argyle-clash-portsmouth-postponed-5804404

I assume if we call it off we take the financial hit of not getting the TV cash, might that over ride the call off issues? Suppose depends upon sporting v. financial issues.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, September 28, 2021, 08:48:39
Those international call ups were a huge hindrance. Happy for the players, but selfishly I'd rather none of them got called up.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Pookemon on Tuesday, September 28, 2021, 16:04:15
I assume if we call it off we take the financial hit of not getting the TV cash, might that over ride the call off issues? Suppose depends upon sporting v. financial issues.

It's only £10k for the away team so it really shouldn't be a factor. 


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, September 28, 2021, 16:15:53
It's only £10k for the away team so it really shouldn't be a factor. 

Is that all? What do the home side get out of interest?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Tuesday, September 28, 2021, 16:50:30
It's only £10k for the away team so it really shouldn't be a factor. 
While i do quite get that it isnt huge that would be the salary for around 5 or 6 members of staff for the month.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Pookemon on Tuesday, September 28, 2021, 17:28:23
Is that all? What do the home side get out of interest?

£30k. 


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Pookemon on Tuesday, September 28, 2021, 17:34:16
While i do quite get that it isnt huge that would be the salary for around 5 or 6 members of staff for the month.

You really consider £10k is worthy compensation for taking a significantly weakened team to the league leaders?

Surely any excuse to face them in a few months, when they might have gone off the boil, would be the sensible option.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 28, 2021, 17:48:58
£10k for an away team and £30k for a home team is an absolute pitance really.

There is no way on earth we should be made to play if we have 5 regular 1st teamers missing, even 2 is too many for our squad to cope with when 1 is your first choice keeper.

I am all for calling it off.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: SuggWillSugg MBE on Tuesday, September 28, 2021, 19:42:13
£10k for an away team and £30k for a home team is an absolute pitance really.

There is no way on earth we should be made to play if we have 5 regular 1st teamers missing, even 2 is too many for our squad to cope with when 1 is your first choice keeper.

I am all for calling it off.

The fella from the adver seems to think the games are played at different times, so Wollacott wouldn’t miss FGR. Just Plymouth & Rochdale.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Pookemon on Tuesday, September 28, 2021, 21:27:57
The fella from the adver seems to think the games are played at different times, so Wollacott wouldn’t miss FGR. Just Plymouth & Rochdale.

Surely Sutton and bradford too as will need to isolate.  Most of Africa is on the red list


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Wednesday, September 29, 2021, 11:01:18
You really consider £10k is worthy compensation for taking a significantly weakened team to the league leaders?

Surely any excuse to face them in a few months, when they might have gone off the boil, would be the sensible option.

It's not about what i consider enough. I am just saying £10k isn't the drop in the ocean that many are saying it is. There seems to be this thought process among alot of fans that ah well Clem is loaded so fuck it. Commercial teams are working their bollocks off to secure sponsorship for a lot less than just £10k


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: theakston2k on Wednesday, September 29, 2021, 11:12:35
It's not about what i consider enough. I am just saying £10k isn't the drop in the ocean that many are saying it is. There seems to be this thought process among alot of fans that ah well Clem is loaded so fuck it. Commercial teams are working their bollocks off to secure sponsorship for a lot less than just £10k
And a shit defeat could easily knock 500 off the next home gate and there goes your £10k so even commercially if we are missing 3 or 4 players it's a no brainer to call it off.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, September 29, 2021, 11:29:35
It's not about what i consider enough. I am just saying £10k isn't the drop in the ocean that many are saying it is. There seems to be this thought process among alot of fans that ah well Clem is loaded so fuck it. Commercial teams are working their bollocks off to secure sponsorship for a lot less than just £10k

I think that's football fans in general, I recall previously when there have been dubious debts of about £50k needing settling that many have suggested the owners just pay them off like its a drop in the ocean.

Although depends on the wealth of the individual, I remember spending bloody days trying to save one of my clients £100k  and after about a week his Trust Manager came back to me and said 'don't bother its probably about the same to him as £100 to you....'


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Power to people on Wednesday, September 29, 2021, 12:35:00
It may depends who misses what games, and there is no confirmation of the call up so far who has been officially called up other than Williams for Wales so I suppose it is all so far dependant who gets called and when they have to attend international meet up.

Wont be good if we are missing 2 or 3 for several games.

I'm sure the manger may not have been happy about the amount of games Grant has missed with his call up and isolation, and we may have that issue with JoJo also, that is the downside of being a lower league team with international players.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, September 29, 2021, 12:50:21
It may depends who misses what games, and there is no confirmation of the call up so far who has been officially called up other than Williams for Wales so I suppose it is all so far dependant who gets called and when they have to attend international meet up.

Wont be good if we are missing 2 or 3 for several games.

I'm sure the manger may not have been happy about the amount of games Grant has missed with his call up and isolation, and we may have that issue with JoJo also, that is the downside of being a lower league team with international players.


The upside being that we are playing well enough for players to be catching eyes elsewhere.

I do think Garner has rather created a rod for his own back by getting an unexpected raw but better than alright team together which has vastly inflated expectation very quickly and thus increased pressure.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Wednesday, September 29, 2021, 14:44:27
And a shit defeat could easily knock 500 off the next home gate and there goes your £10k so even commercially if we are missing 3 or 4 players it's a no brainer to call it off.
Like i said it's a no brainer to us


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Pookemon on Wednesday, September 29, 2021, 14:45:45
It's not about what i consider enough. I am just saying £10k isn't the drop in the ocean that many are saying it is. There seems to be this thought process among alot of fans that ah well Clem is loaded so fuck it. Commercial teams are working their bollocks off to secure sponsorship for a lot less than just £10k

I'm not thinking like that at all - I'm an accountant.

I do not want Clem or anyone else to blow their fortune on us.   We need to be well run and sustainable and get there through hard work rather than charity.

I'll put it another way - and ignoring the ethics - if we were offered £10k (or c 0.2% of annual income) to play a weakened team in any game would it be tempting?   I'd say not even close.    It would be counterproductive in so many ways

There's a difference between maximising revenue through selling shirts and advertising space, and points for cash.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: tans on Thursday, September 30, 2021, 22:09:20
Grant called up for Jamaica games vs Canada and Honduras

Neither on the red list


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, October 7, 2021, 16:30:08
Great news!

Ghana and Zimbabwe taken off the red list!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: tans on Thursday, October 7, 2021, 16:45:12
Along with pretty much every other country


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, October 7, 2021, 16:51:01
Yep. A few South American countries left on it.

At least it means JoJo should only miss the FGR league game.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: tans on Saturday, October 9, 2021, 13:42:34
Wollacott starts for Ghana


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, October 9, 2021, 14:19:58
Wollacott starts for Ghana

In what otherwise looks like a first choice team - Partey, the Ayew brothers, Amartey and so on. Figured he'd been called up to be cover, so great news for him.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, October 9, 2021, 14:21:33
In what otherwise looks like a first choice team - Partey, the Ayew brothers, Amartey and so on. Figured he'd been called up to be cover, so great news for him.
I hope he does himself proud and plays a blinder as Ward did today.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: theakston2k on Saturday, October 9, 2021, 14:25:07
In what otherwise looks like a first choice team - Partey, the Ayew brothers, Amartey and so on. Figured he'd been called up to be cover, so great news for him.
It’s a World Cup qualifier so you would expect it to be a full strength team so he’s gone straight in as number 1 by the look of it.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, October 9, 2021, 14:26:41
Some decent players in that line up too.

Jojo Wollacott (GK), Daniel Amartey, Jonathan Mensah, Alexander Djiku, Baba Rahman, Thomas Partey, Andre Ayew (c), Mohammed Kudus, Issahaku Fatawu, Kamaldeen Sulemana and Jordan Ayew


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: theakston2k on Saturday, October 9, 2021, 14:38:44
Some decent players in that line up too.

Jojo Wollacott (GK), Daniel Amartey, Jonathan Mensah, Alexander Djiku, Baba Rahman, Thomas Partey, Andre Ayew (c), Mohammed Kudus, Issahaku Fatawu, Kamaldeen Sulemana and Jordan Ayew
The funny thing is that a lot of there fans don’t think he should be playing as he plays in league 2. Think some need to learn about the English pyramid. League 2 will be miles ahead of the Ghanaian league where their other keeper plays.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, October 9, 2021, 15:03:56
The funny thing is that a lot of there fans don’t think he should be playing as he plays in league 2. Think some need to learn about the English pyramid. League 2 will be miles ahead of the Ghanaian league where their other keeper plays.
I haven't read any fan reaction TBH but a good keeper is a good keeper at any level, and yes of course L2 is a much better standard than the leagues in Ghana, with no disrespect to Ghana.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bogus Dave on Saturday, October 9, 2021, 15:28:09
Watch a lot of Ghanaian football?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Saturday, October 9, 2021, 15:29:42
Watch a lot of Ghanaian football?
:D


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: theakston2k on Saturday, October 9, 2021, 15:51:24
Watch a lot of Ghanaian football?
Well it’s outside the top 100 in the IFFHS rankings and with even the league of Wales at number 88 I think it’s a fair assumption to make as league 2 is definitely a higher standard than that.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jilted John on Saturday, October 9, 2021, 16:05:57
Watch a lot of Ghanaian football?
My ex came from Ghana and yes I have seen a fair bit of football at that level and it is as suggested its quality is about National League level, so maybe you should check before making obviously snidey remarks.

All it takes a little google anyway to see highlights of 2 of the best sides in Ghana, Heart of Oaks being my 2nd team.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMd-2Yu8QO0


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Saturday, October 9, 2021, 16:14:57
My ex came from Ghana and yes I have seen a fair bit of football at that level and it is as suggested its quality is about National League level, so maybe you should check before making obviously snidey remarks.

All it takes a little google anyway to see highlights of 2 of the best sides in Ghana, Heart of Oaks being my 2nd team.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMd-2Yu8QO0
So one league below his current level ;)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jilted John on Saturday, October 9, 2021, 16:22:33
So one league below his current level ;)
So you think Joho Wollacott is "just a L2 level" keeper?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Private Fraser on Saturday, October 9, 2021, 16:26:24
https://twitter.com/jiff1967/status/1446874327748648963?s=21

https://twitter.com/jiff1967/status/1446873811819896832?s=21

https://twitter.com/jiff1967/status/1446869516907057157?s=21


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: tans on Saturday, October 9, 2021, 16:30:44
If you have IPTV and espn + its on there


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, October 9, 2021, 16:33:38
If you have IPTV and espn + its on there
Its also here...

http://www.hesgoal.com/news/88735/Ghana_vs_Zimbabwe.html


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, October 9, 2021, 16:35:24
Jojo looking very calm and collected so far. The game quality is awful though.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, October 9, 2021, 16:42:50
I watched about 20 mins of that 1st half and Jojo looked really assured so far kept a clean sheet for at least the first 45 mins of his international debut.

Hes been kicking it long a lot more than he would with us but his shorter/mid range passing distribution to the midfield has been excellent even if his longer kicks havent been as successful.

He can be proud of that 1st half.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, October 9, 2021, 16:47:46
Tbf, one of the worries pre FGR was Ward’s distribution - which turned out to be excellent. He’ll feel hard done by if he’s dropped for Rochdale.

I’m actually looking forward to the Plymouth game.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, October 9, 2021, 16:53:22
I’m actually looking forward to the Plymouth game.
I am intreagued as to see how the fringe players again perform, Dabre, Aguiar, Parsons, East, JML and probably Baudry and Lyden too.

Plymouth were beaten 2-0 by Newport in the last game and played pretty much an entire rotated side from their previous game so probably arent taking the games that seriously.

Garner has stated before he will treat the Trophy as a proper 1st team fixture though even if many fans are not keen on the matches. He said its a good way to earn money and have a trip to Wembley if successful.

Also might be nice to win another cup game!

Probably a line up a similar line up to the Arsenal game which was Ward, Odimayo, Iandolo (C), Crichlow, Mitchell-Lawson, Gilbert, Hunt, East, Aguiar, Parsons, Dabre.

Although obvious absentees would be Gilbert and either Crich or Odimayo being replaced by Lyden and Baudry respectively.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, October 9, 2021, 17:01:55
Jojo just had a 49th min penalty scored against him so no clean sheet debut.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, October 9, 2021, 17:46:31
Jojo got off to a winning start in his international career with a 3-1 win today, he could do nothing about the penalty given away needlessly by a defender.

TBH he had a very quiet afternoon against a poor Zimbabwe side in a game with little quality which never came to life until the 3rd goal went in for Ghana.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: tans on Monday, October 11, 2021, 07:09:47
Watched Grants game in the early hours

0-0 against Canada. He did ok, absolutely got clattered at one point, then later on went full on Grant and ran the length of the pitch to push someone over after Kemar Roofe had been fouled


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Red Frog on Monday, October 11, 2021, 13:19:05
This may have been discussed elsewhere, but if we've ever had more simultaneous international call-ups, I don't remember it. And not for completely tinpot nations either. Friends in France can't get their heads round a fourth division side having Welsh, Jamaican and Ghanaian internationals. Here the fourth division is literally a few old blokes leaning on a fence by the car-park.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, October 11, 2021, 13:26:30
Here the fourth division is literally a few old blokes leaning on a fence by the car-park.
Pretty much like the FGR home crowd then?

For the other part of your post, I am really not sure I remember more than 2 or 3 being called up at any time and then almost all were U18 or U21 call ups too.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, October 11, 2021, 13:46:38
Here is a rough chronological order of all our full international players.

Pre 1960s
Harold FLEMING
Jock WALKER
Grenville MORRIS
Norman UPRICHARD

1960s 1970s & 1980s
Rod THOMAS
Trevor ANDERSON
Ray TREACY
Bryan HAMILTON
Jimmy QUINN
Tony GALVIN

1990s
Jan-Åge FJØRTOFT
Paul BODIN
Kevin HORLOCK
Alan MCLOUGHLIN

2000s on
Ricky SHAKES
Miguel COMMINGES
Thomas DOSSEVI
Yaser KASIM
Massimo LUONGO
Brad SMITH
Christopher MISSILOU
Anthony GRANT
Jojo WOLLACOTT
Jonny WILLIAMS

Bodin, Horlock and Fjortoft were all called up while we were in the Premier league at the same time for full internationals and Sumerbee for the U21s at the same time.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Red Frog on Monday, October 11, 2021, 14:58:59
Here is a rough chronological order of all our full international players.

Pre 1960s
Harold FLEMING
Jock WALKER
Grenville MORRIS
Norman UPRICHARD

1960s 1970s & 1980s
Rod THOMAS
Trevor ANDERSON
Ray TREACY
Bryan HAMILTON
Jimmy QUINN
Tony GALVIN

1990s
Jan-Åge FJØRTOFT
Paul BODIN
Kevin HORLOCK
Alan MCLOUGHLIN

2000s on
Ricky SHAKES
Miguel COMMINGES
Thomas DOSSEVI
Yaser KASIM
Massimo LUONGO
Brad SMITH
Christopher MISSILOU
Anthony GRANT
Jojo WOLLACOTT
Jonny WILLIAMS

Bodin, Horlock and Fjortoft were all called up while we were in the Premier league at the same time for full internationals and Sumerbee for the U21s at the same time.


Good work that man. So this weekend could well be our all-time record. Of course, the increase in young Prem loans ramps up the numbers in recent times, but still.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 14:52:55
Another 90 minutes under the belt for Jojo in a 1-0 away win for Ghana.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 16:20:43
Another 90 minutes under the belt for Jojo in a 1-0 away win for Ghana.
Brilliant, his 6th clean sheet of the season so far in just 13 games.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 16:23:53
Brilliant, his 6th clean sheet of the season so far in just 13 games.

It's probably much too early for this but........

He (and almost everyone else) is only on a 1 year contract isn't he? That needs to be rectified preferably sooner rather than later and a long term deal required there.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 16:28:51
Absolutely we need to tie him down in January if not sooner to a much longer contract.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 16:29:40
It's probably much too early for this but........

He (and almost everyone else) is only on a 1 year contract isn't he? That needs to be rectified preferably sooner rather than later and a long term deal required there.

Everyone signed this summer because we are not allowed to offer longer terms without paying down the full loan from the EFL and our footballing debts I believe.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 16:39:38
Everyone signed this summer because we are not allowed to offer longer terms without paying down the full loan from the EFL and our footballing debts I believe.
That is true, a sum (£600kish) which as far as I know is still outstanding currently IIRC.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:23:30
That is true, a sum (£600kish) which as far as I know is still outstanding currently IIRC.

Didn't Rob Angus/the board say that as the loan was interest free they were in no hurry to pay it and it wasn't due until about 3 years. (IIRC) whilst of course I agree other things probably take priority being able to get our more talented/saleable assets tied down onto longer contracts should probably be looked at, otherwise we'll only be able to offer one year deals until the loan has been paid off.

Of course that hasn't stopped us being able to bring in some very good players so far on those 1 year deals.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:27:13
All restrictions related to the EFL loan end after one season anyway, regardless of whether or not the money has been paid back.
So come next summer, we will be able to offer longer term contacts and more than £1300 a week.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:19:49
I expect in the summer the contract situation will be reviewed and probably certain players get improved deals, we don't know current contracts  though if after they have played x games another year may kick in, or it may be a 1 year rolling deal with some players.

I would be surprised if contracts are all 1 year full stop.

A few were signed with an eye to the future and being able to develop and then sell on for a nice fee



Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 07:54:17
All restrictions related to the EFL loan end after one season anyway, regardless of whether or not the money has been paid back.
So come next summer, we will be able to offer longer term contacts and more than £1300 a week.

Ah I wasn't aware of that then. That would explain why there is no rush to pay off that loan ASAP. Cheers.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 08:44:18
Ah I wasn't aware of that then. That would explain why there is no rush to pay off that loan ASAP. Cheers.

Rob Angus pretty much said the same on Rich’s podcast the other week. Well worth a listen.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 09:16:45
Rob Angus pretty much said the same on Rich’s podcast the other week. Well worth a listen.

ahem - I did listen to this actually but I was in the gym so wasn't paying full attention. Slapped wrist etc!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Friday, October 15, 2021, 17:18:49
Ricky Aquiar to Chippenham on loan


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, October 15, 2021, 17:21:54
Ricky Aquiar to Chippenham on loan
Game time will do him the world of good, hes close to being able to fill in for our current 1st teamers but not quite there yet, one for the future.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Friday, October 15, 2021, 23:51:24
Thought he played well on Tuesday.
Chippenham seems to be the go to option for a lot of our loans.
Maybe that allows them to still train here for some of the week at least.
A decent level & chance of getting noticed higher up the food chain for the next loan. Didn't do Twine any harm.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Saturday, October 16, 2021, 07:50:49
Game time will do him the world of good, hes close to being able to fill in for our current 1st teamers but not quite there yet, one for the future.
But isn't that going to a lower standard that he was playing when we signed him?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Crackity Jones on Saturday, October 16, 2021, 08:00:23
But isn't that going to a lower standard that he was playing when we signed him?
I think its one level up. Worthing are below national league. Chippenham worked for Twine to an extent; although there is a strong argument that he really kicked on when he went to Newport


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Saturday, October 16, 2021, 08:01:54
But isn't that going to a lower standard that he was playing when we signed him?
He will still train with us though so overall he will still be benefiting


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: river monster on Saturday, October 16, 2021, 08:05:35
Think Worthing are Isthmian Prem. Chippenham are National League South.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, October 16, 2021, 09:21:35
He will still train with us though so overall he will still be benefiting
And we can still use him in the PJT too I think.

Its a good move for him, Chippenham or Hungerford, they are pretty much feeder teams for us anyway and both a level above where he was playing at.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Saturday, October 16, 2021, 09:53:56
And we can still use him in the PJT too I think.

Its a good move for him, Chippenham or Hungerford, they are pretty much feeder teams for us anyway and both a level above where he was playing at.
Makes perfect sense then.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: tans on Wednesday, October 20, 2021, 11:39:18
KKH appears to have deleted all trace of STFC on his twitter and instagram according to someone on twitter


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Wednesday, October 20, 2021, 12:11:54
KKH appears to have deleted all trace of STFC on his twitter and instagram according to someone on twitter

Mentioned on FB too.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, October 20, 2021, 12:12:51
KKH appears to have deleted all trace of STFC on his twitter and instagram according to someone on twitter

Certainly nothing on Twiter and only a few photos a that I can see on Insta (none Swindon).

I think I'll "panic" more if he's not in the squad on Saurday though.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, October 20, 2021, 12:18:20
Meh, good for the first few games and pretty average since.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Boy About Town on Wednesday, October 20, 2021, 12:32:20
KKH just shared STFC content on twitter  :hmmm:


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, October 20, 2021, 12:34:37
Good stuff, would be a shame to see him leave he’s been excellent all season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: theakston2k on Wednesday, October 20, 2021, 12:34:50
He’s deleted everything on Instagram so suggests it not STFC specific.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, October 20, 2021, 12:34:53
Much ado about nothing proberly


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, October 20, 2021, 12:38:15
Much ado about nothing proberly
As We Like It


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, October 20, 2021, 12:40:53
Good stuff, would be a shame to see him leave he’s been excellent all season.
Excellent at Scunthorpe for sure...


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, October 20, 2021, 12:43:04
Much ado about nothing proberly

 :hmmm: Probably?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, October 20, 2021, 12:50:15
I’ve just added pictures and comments about Manchester City to my social media profiles, so I play for them now, right?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, October 20, 2021, 12:58:35
Too many fans rely on players own social media changes for information.

FWIW I think we have had 3 decent games from KKH but hes been almost a passenger in many of the other games he has played, hes young and raw and has a lot to learn, if he/Villa did indeed choose to terminate his loan due to game time/happiness then so be it, it wouldnt be a huge blow to the team anyway.

But I would like to keep him and nurture him into becoming a good defender as well as an attacking wingback which seems to be him prefered role at the moment.

Either way until its confirmed that hes going back I will still consider him a part of our team, irrelivant of his social media following/followers/pictures!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, October 20, 2021, 13:09:39
:hmmm: Probably?

Quite, went a bit Brizzle there


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Red Frog on Wednesday, October 20, 2021, 13:12:05
Meh, good got the first few games and pretty average since.

Good stuff, would be a shame to see him leave he’s been excellent all season.

 :clap: Showing excellent mobility there.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, October 20, 2021, 13:17:38
:clap: Showing excellent mobility there.

 :D

I’m glad someone appreciated it.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: JoeMezz on Friday, October 22, 2021, 08:09:42
Garner: "This is an ongoing conversation Ben Chorley and I have been having and also discussions with the club owner as well. We are still under parts of the transfer embargo and are still restricted in certain ways but player contracts are certainly something we are looking at over the coming months and moving into January. We don't want short-term success or short-term wins at this club, we want to build it long-term and we to have that sustainability. We always have an eye on the future on a weekly basis."

Good to hear plans are in motion to keep players committed.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, October 24, 2021, 13:27:42
I hear that Ricky Aguiar is impressing staff and fans at Chippenham, good for him to get some decent game time at a fair level.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, October 26, 2021, 13:54:01
Harry McKirdy has just arrived on Twitter. His first post is to try and get a million followers, and if he does Jonny Williams will shave off his beard! McKirdy is a character and is full of life, I just hope that it doesn't go the other way and he starts to misbehave on social media. Especially as he is bound to get opposition fans trying to wind him up.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Posh Red on Tuesday, October 26, 2021, 19:30:44
I see Aguiar has scored for Chippenham tonight


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, October 27, 2021, 09:08:10
I see Aguiar has scored for Chippenham tonight
'Nam fans calling for the head of the manager after a poor home defeat with Aguairs goal scoting from a rebound the only highlight, 4 defeats and no wins from the last 6.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Power to people on Wednesday, October 27, 2021, 09:37:34
Harry McKirdy has just arrived on Twitter. His first post is to try and get a million followers, and if he does Jonny Williams will shave off his beard! McKirdy is a character and is full of life, I just hope that it doesn't go the other way and he starts to misbehave on social media. Especially as he is bound to get opposition fans trying to wind him up.

First impression is that he is a Simon Ferry type that likes to be the joker of the pack


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, October 27, 2021, 09:42:30
First impression is that he is a Simon Ferry type that likes to be the joker of the pack

Very much so. Great to have this sort of character in the squad.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Wednesday, October 27, 2021, 09:55:49
Going to sound like a right miserable prick here so apologies in advance. Absolutely love that type of character and it makes a huge difference of course in the changing room but he needs to do it on the pitch for me. We had 1.5 games maybe 2.5 where he has been quality for us but the fact is apart from that he has been as ineffective as Tyreece Simpson in other games. Rochdale for example he missed the same chances as Simpson did at Northampton and effectively cost us.

I love the lad i think he is quality but his cheeky attitude is covering up performances at times for me


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, October 27, 2021, 09:58:43
Could Gilbert replace Simpson as a No. 9 for a bit? The lad needs taking out of the non-firing line.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, October 27, 2021, 10:12:53
Could Gilbert replace Simpson as a No. 9 for a bit? The lad needs taking out of the non-firing line.
Personally I don't see Gilbert as anything other than a winger/ball carrying number 10, I don't think he would be good enough as an out and out striker.

He hasn't shown any instinct where the goal is and is often unaware of where other players are around him when head is down running with the ball, it would be a no from me.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: JoeMezz on Wednesday, October 27, 2021, 12:02:02
Could Gilbert replace Simpson as a No. 9 for a bit? The lad needs taking out of the non-firing line.

Would much rather JML


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, October 27, 2021, 12:30:12
Very much so. Great to have this sort of character in the squad.
Have you seen the vid of Grant whizzing about on a mobility scooter?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, October 27, 2021, 12:36:31
Have you seen the vid of Grant whizzing about on a mobility scooter?

haha - yeah I did.



Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, October 27, 2021, 12:37:32
How do you cope a twitter vid and paste somewhere else


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, October 27, 2021, 12:40:20
How do you cope a twitter vid and paste somewhere else

https://twitter.com/GWReds/status/1453307835903795207?t=UFJ9mfzzMb_uNOO5XGukzw&s=19


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, October 27, 2021, 12:41:13
How do you cope a twitter vid and paste somewhere else

I only know how to do it on my phone. There is 3 dots connected by 2 lines, when I click on that I can then copy link and paste it anywhere I choose.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, November 4, 2021, 15:33:52
So far Jonny Williams, Jojo and Anthony Grant have been called up by Wales, Ghana and Jamaica respectively. Gilbert is not in the Ireland Under 21s squad but Crawley's Will Ferry is. (good news for us I guess) Can't find out information about KKH but assume he'll be in the England Under 20 squad.

Club are selling tickets for Crawley so assuming it is going ahead.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: tans on Thursday, November 4, 2021, 15:35:24
Kesley posted a pic of him in england kit with a smiling emoji the other day


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, November 4, 2021, 19:52:54
So far Jonny Williams, Jojo and Anthony Grant have been called up by Wales, Ghana and Jamaica respectively. Gilbert is not in the Ireland Under 21s squad but Crawley's Will Ferry is. (good news for us I guess) Can't find out information about KKH but assume he'll be in the England Under 20 squad.

Club are selling tickets for Crawley so assuming it is going ahead.

If it was called off all they would say is tickets valid for rearranged, ticket office are not going to not sell tickets just in case it is called off as it might not be.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, November 5, 2021, 09:04:53
If it was called off all they would say is tickets valid for rearranged, ticket office are not going to not sell tickets just in case it is called off as it might not be.

If you say so. Irrelevant now anyway as the club (Garner in his press conference) have confirmed the Crawley game is going ahead.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: tans on Thursday, November 11, 2021, 09:30:53
Wollacott starts for Ghana vs Ethiopia.

Not a chance we are keeping him, post end of season imo


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, November 11, 2021, 09:46:28
Wollacott starts for Ghana vs Ethiopia.

Not a chance we are keeping him, post end of season imo

I’m not so sure.

He’s a 25 year old keeper who up until this season sat on the bench(if that) for his whole career bar a few loans. I don’t think he will be desperate to jump ship, especially if we go up.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Private Fraser on Thursday, November 11, 2021, 10:04:46
African Cup of Nations throughout January, too, isn't it?  :hmmm:


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, November 11, 2021, 10:05:12
I’m not so sure.

He’s a 25 year old keeper who up until this season sat on the bench(if that) for his whole career bar a few loans. I don’t think he will be desperate to jump ship, especially if we go up.
If we don't win promotion then I feel there will be a host of clubs after him, hes has done well to earn a call up and seemingly claim the number 1 jersey now.

I understand he still lives in Bristol and has no desire to move what with us being local to him and doing well, lets hope we can tie him down to a longer contract ASAP.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, November 11, 2021, 10:26:11
Are we able to tie anyone down to longer contracts as it stands with the loans etc, albeit I suppose we can sign up to pre-contract agreements or what not?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, November 11, 2021, 10:32:35
Always so much more difficult for a keeper to establish himself when going higher up the food chain. He’d be back up at a Championship club. Is that what he’d want at this stage of his career?

He’s still young in keeper terms. Get promoted, do it in L1 and then look at your options.

These little cup runs - and the money generated - could be pivotal in retaining those on 1 year contracts. I’m sure when the debt figures were published last month the EFL was ‘only’  £175,000. Pay that off before January and tie them down to longer, better contracts.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, November 11, 2021, 10:35:51
Always so much more difficult for a keeper to establish himself when going higher up the food chain. He’d be back up at a Championship club. Is that what he’d want at this stage of his career?


I think Foderingham made the same discovery, not looked is he getting games for Sheff Utd now they are back in the Championship and Ramsdale has gone?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Thursday, November 11, 2021, 10:50:07
Slightly different for Foderingham though as he was without a club


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, November 11, 2021, 11:18:31
I think Foderingham made the same discovery, not looked is he getting games for Sheff Utd now they are back in the Championship and Ramsdale has gone?

I don't think he is.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, November 11, 2021, 12:14:58
Always so much more difficult for a keeper to establish himself when going higher up the food chain. He’d be back up at a Championship club. Is that what he’d want at this stage of his career?

He’s still young in keeper terms. Get promoted, do it in L1 and then look at your options.

These little cup runs - and the money generated - could be pivotal in retaining those on 1 year contracts. I’m sure when the debt figures were published last month the EFL was ‘only’  £175,000. Pay that off before January and tie them down to longer, better contracts.
By this you are presuming that he will go to a club in England.

On the international stage clubs abroad in such countries as Belgium, Holland, France and Germany are far less worried about signing young players for the first team and all those counties have several players from the African nations already so see it as less of a risk than English clubs do.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, November 11, 2021, 12:42:46
By this you are presuming that he will go to a club in England.

On the international stage clubs abroad in such countries as Belgium, Holland, France and Germany are far less worried about signing young players for the first team and all those counties have several players from the African nations already so see it as less of a risk than English clubs do.

Key issue in that would be whether JJ ants to go abroad, whilst its become (thankfully) much more of a thing recently a lot of players (and people generally) baulk at the idea of different language/food etc.

I suppose another thing for a keeper is that if you are going up the ladder possibly as a no.2 are clubs going to want a no.2 who is fucking off every international break and for a month in the winter to the ACN.

Anyway hopefully a del can be done and he stays here!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, November 11, 2021, 13:39:52
As mentioned above it could well be down to our ongoing embargo whether we can offer him a longer deal or not, I hope we can and that he signs, same with Ward who is a very adequate stand in.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: reeves4england on Thursday, November 11, 2021, 13:56:09
I don't think he is.
Nope. He's made 9 appearances in the last 3 years for Rangers and Sheff Utd, including 3 so far this season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Thursday, November 11, 2021, 14:19:20
But the money is good  :pint:


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Private Fraser on Thursday, November 11, 2021, 18:52:08
Matej Kovar playing for Czech U21s against England  just about to start on Sky Sports. Czechs have yet to concede a goal in qualifiers! 🤨

Edit - England 2-0 up after 11 minutes. Kovar blameless for first but palmed shot out straight to an England player for the second.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, November 12, 2021, 10:13:09
Matej Kovar playing for Czech U21s against England  just about to start on Sky Sports. Czechs have yet to concede a goal in qualifiers! 🤨

Edit - England 2-0 up after 11 minutes. Kovar blameless for first but palmed shot out straight to an England player for the second.
Conceded 3 in the end and looked a quite poor for the 3rd goal too easily beaten low and close to him after some terrible defending by the Czechs. Should have conceded another after totally missing a cross and the striker missing an open goal from that from about 5 yards out.

Jojo Wollacott only conceded a single goal for Ghana in their 1-1 draw with Ethiopia, he could do nothing about the goal he conceded to a powerful shot from 12 yards out.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Friday, November 12, 2021, 10:36:07
Conceded 3 in the end and looked a quite poor for the 3rd goal too easily beaten low and close to him after some terrible defending by the Czechs. Should have conceded another after totally missing a cross and the striker missing an open goal from that from about 5 yards out.

Oh I do miss Matej Kovar........


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, November 12, 2021, 10:38:30
Here’s a poser.

If the WC was being held this year - well, now actually - and the Prem and Championship leagues suspended as they will be next year, what would have happened to us regarding losing players i.e Wollacott, Grant and Williams if their respective countries have qualified?

Play on regardless?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Friday, November 12, 2021, 10:41:58
I’d imagine so, I think Angus said recently that clubs are still waiting to find out concrete plans for next season from the EFL


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Abrahammer on Friday, November 12, 2021, 10:42:22
We couldn’t go 4-6 weeks without a game while everyone plays on

Tough shit for us


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, November 12, 2021, 10:49:38
Oh I do miss Matej Kovar........

Said every league 2 centre forward!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, November 12, 2021, 11:23:06
Next season for PL and Champ

Been announced today that next season will start on 6th August. Because of the World Cup in Qatar, the season will have a break starting 14th November. The league will then restart on 26th December and finish on May28th.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: tans on Friday, November 12, 2021, 11:40:32
Be interesting to see how they fit the champ games in, seeing as they play 8 more than the PL


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, November 12, 2021, 11:44:38
Be interesting to see how they fit the champ games in, seeing as they play 8 more than the PL

I strongly suspect that FIFA and the PL won't give a shit about that!

I wonder whether it will be like it was when I played Sunday league and you had a particularly crap winter with loads of postponements, the spring will have weeks of playing Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, November 12, 2021, 11:52:29
Do Sky have any broadcast rights for the WC? If not, the EFL rump of L1/2 could be in line for some live games.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Friday, November 12, 2021, 11:54:23
Nope - BBC/ITV have the rights as usual


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: tans on Friday, November 12, 2021, 11:56:35
Do Sky have any broadcast rights for the WC? If not, the EFL rump of L1/2 could be in line for some live games.

Dont talk silly


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, November 12, 2021, 11:57:04
Qatar are 3 hours ahead of GMT. There are bound to be EFL games that will clash.

Also, what happens to the cup competitions.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, November 12, 2021, 12:16:46
Not worth starting a new thread for it but Garner missed out on Manager of the month to Port Vales Darrell Clarke despite having the same points haul of 13 from the 6 matches.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, November 12, 2021, 12:26:55
Not worth starting a new thread for it but Garner missed out on Manager of the month to Port Vales Darrell Clarke despite having the same points haul of 13 from the 6 matches.

With the curse of manager of the month, pretty glad he did.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, November 12, 2021, 12:28:58
With the curse of manager of the month, pretty glad he did.
TBF Clarke won the manager of the month last month also and it didn't do him any harm winning it in consecutive months!


Title: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Friday, November 12, 2021, 13:26:48
parsons -> chippenham on 1 month loan.

makes sense


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, November 12, 2021, 13:44:21
parsons -> chippenham on 1 month loan.

makes sense
Very much so, he needs game time and he isn't good enough to get it at L2 level just yet.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Berniman on Friday, November 12, 2021, 14:11:35
Aguiar is staying on for a while longer also..  further 2 months


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Private Fraser on Saturday, November 13, 2021, 10:38:40
Grant started for Jamaica, got booked and hooked in their 1-1 draw in El Salvador early this morning.

https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/match/2021-2022/world-cup-qualification-concacaf/el-salvador/jamaica/393855

I like the sound of "Speedy Williams", but we've already got one of those  :)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Posh Red on Saturday, November 13, 2021, 11:56:13
Be interesting to see how they fit the champ games in, seeing as they play 8 more than the PL

I’m guessing they will be forced to play midweek at the same time as Champions League games


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Saturday, November 13, 2021, 15:24:00
Grant started for Jamaica, got booked and hooked in their 1-1 draw in El Salvador early this morning.

https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/match/2021-2022/world-cup-qualification-concacaf/el-salvador/jamaica/393855

I like the sound of "Speedy Williams", but we've already got one of those  :)
Sounds like on Twitter he had a word with their manager about him being overrun in the middle and then got subbed. Interesting to see if that was true


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Sunday, November 14, 2021, 16:56:47
Question. How many players did we have on international duty this time round?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, November 14, 2021, 17:00:48
I think it was originally 3 then KKH who was on standby got called up making it 4


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Sunday, November 14, 2021, 18:18:46
I think it was originally 3 then KKH who was on standby got called up making it 4

That is what I thought.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, November 14, 2021, 20:15:15
JoJo currently winning with Ghana 1-0 v S Africa


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, November 14, 2021, 20:16:40
Will he play for us next Saturday or will Garner rest him!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, November 15, 2021, 06:00:29
Ghana have just scraped through to the WC play offs. They are a 2-leg affair which take place in March.

Assuming JoJo is still with us next season he’ll be missing for a couple of months at the WC in Qatar if Ghana make it.

A real showcase event for him there. Should boost his valuation nicely.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: STFC no2 fan on Monday, November 15, 2021, 06:12:53
https://www.goal.com/en-ng/lists/2022-world-cup-qualifiers-ghana-player-ratings-against-south/bltc10c9f676bdc9088#cs041c89bd87e23b57


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Private Fraser on Monday, November 15, 2021, 08:25:35
Ghana have just scraped through to the WC play offs. They are a 2-leg affair which take place in March.

Assuming JoJo is still with us next season he’ll be missing for a couple of months at the WC in Qatar if Ghana make it.

A real showcase event for him there. Should boost his valuation nicely.

They were a tad fortunate with the penalty decision  :)

https://twitter.com/ObviousSibisi/status/1460042756450103300?s=20


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: theakston2k on Monday, November 15, 2021, 20:16:19
Ghana have just scraped through to the WC play offs. They are a 2-leg affair which take place in March.

Assuming JoJo is still with us next season he’ll be missing for a couple of months at the WC in Qatar if Ghana make it.

A real showcase event for him there. Should boost his valuation nicely.
Gonna be missing most of January as well isn’t he as bound to be in their African Cup squad.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, November 16, 2021, 13:26:32
Gonna be missing most of January as well isn’t he as bound to be in their African Cup squad.

Afcon squads supposedly join up on 27th December, so he'll miss most of the Christmas programme too. Final not until February 6th...

Good thing Ward looks pretty solid, isn't it?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 16, 2021, 13:46:05
Afcon squads supposedly join up on 27th December, so he'll miss most of the Christmas programme too. Final not until February 6th...

Good thing Ward looks pretty solid, isn't it?
I would think we will be in the market for another young keeper at this rate to at least sit on the bench, unless Mildy fancies it as he does in the PJT.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, November 16, 2021, 14:12:43
Its a strange one, we put together a squad (not so much on the cheap but on the hoof) and suddenly have 5 internationals in it!

Both Grant and JJ (and the club) have a bit of a quandary, in Grants case at this stage of his career I can understand wanting to get some international football on his CV, but he seems to have lost his club place off the back of it. With JJ, whilst its great for him, will being the Ghanaian No.1 actually help his career prospects that much, will get him out to a bigger audience no doubt, but he will need to balance that against domestic commitments. What Lg1 or 2 teams are going to want a no.1 who misses loads of the season, likewise at L1-PL level same applies with a no.2.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Private Fraser on Tuesday, November 16, 2021, 18:47:08
Afcon squads supposedly join up on 27th December, so he'll miss most of the Christmas programme too. Final not until February 6th...

Good thing Ward looks pretty solid, isn't it?

Could be missing for another game or two more before then, too….

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/africa/59306059


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Thursday, November 18, 2021, 12:08:38
Games sould still be called off during next years World Cup depending on players being called up for international duty.

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/19725815.swindon-town-set-play-efl-2022-world-cup-qatar/


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Quagmire on Friday, November 19, 2021, 11:45:26
Can see Grant being let go in January.

Quote
Garner on Anthony Grant:

'For him the fact he went to red list countries and had to quarantine, and then the way he has gone away with Jamaica this time and he still hasn't trained with us yet is frustrating. We are paying a players wages and he has probably spent more time with his country in the last 2 or 3 months than he has with us.



"That has been a frustration but it is what it is. He wants to represent his country and we understand that, it's a great honour for him and his family and we just have to try and manage that process. The next international break isn't until March so we know we have these players until then and that can paint a different picture.



"I wouldn't say it's hard to manage the situation, it is what it is. The international call-ups take precedence and we have to release the players. We make the best of the situations and we always look at the solution and the best way to move forward. We don't dwell on negatives and we try to remain positive and aim to win as many matches as we possibly can."


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, November 19, 2021, 12:07:31
I’d say JoJo is in exactly the same boat - even more so with African Cup of Nations coming up. Why pick on Grant? Just come out and say he’s not in my plans.

Grow a fucking pair.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Quagmire on Friday, November 19, 2021, 12:17:46
Because Grant isn’t getting back in time to train before a game? Where as Jo Jo is.

All players that went away have trained at least twice this week, Grant still hasn’t been seen and it’s not the first time it’s happened.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Friday, November 19, 2021, 12:21:46
Could be wrong but don't clubs get compensation from the national FA's to cover international call ups?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Friday, November 19, 2021, 12:22:19
There's obviously a breadown in communications between player and club somewhere as teams in the top two divisions and many in leagues 1&2 would Potentially have the same issues.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: RobertT on Friday, November 19, 2021, 13:23:58
Jamaica have been cramming in lots of Qualifiers, so he's probably involved in a lot of games over the period away plus travel - half the time to Jamaica but then also to five different American countries in the past two months.  The Covid issue is more severe than in African Nations, hence the quarantine requirement on at least one of the trips.  I imagine he is cream crackered when he returns.

Same again coming end of Jan and in March,, six qualifiers over two stints.  That region seems to have parked the Qualifying until after their regional tournament this year.  He will barely be around the remainder of the season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, November 19, 2021, 13:25:42
So nobody will want him in January.

Don’t really like Garner moaning about his wages, though.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Friday, November 19, 2021, 13:33:02
So nobody will want him in January.

Don’t really like Garner moaning about his wages, though.

Garner is right in the sense that we are paying him to not be here.
Although if he wasn’t on international duty we’d still be paying him not to play.

I’d understand this if Grant was playing or even if Garner wanted to play him (but couldn’t)

Grant is firmly down the pecking order and has a history of being difficult as a lot of his previous clubs and was most likely signed as a PR exercise as much as he was a footballer.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Quagmire on Friday, November 19, 2021, 13:33:08
I can see Garners frustration in all honesty.

I’d imagine Grant is being paid in or around the £1300pw limit we are allowed to spend, so one of the higher earners. When Garner signed him, Grant had never played for his country so Garner wouldn’t have thought about him missing as many games as he has.

So we are paying one of our highest earners to basically play for Jamaica which means he is unable to train for weeks on end.

That coupled with a couple of late returns, and I’d be pissed off too.  


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: RobertT on Friday, November 19, 2021, 13:37:14
It's not a later return though, they played Tuesday night local time here.  He wouldn't have managed to get a flight until the next evening and arrived yesterday - at best.  I don't blame him, plenty of players are knocked for not representing their country properly.  Every time he goes away, we have no choice but to plan for him being gone for a few weeks right now.  Next batch of games is end of Jan, he will go out a few days earlier to meet-up with the squad and not be back and in training until second week in Feb at the earliest.  Then again in March but for a few days more.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Power to people on Friday, November 19, 2021, 13:47:10
Grant's last game was Tuesday, so you would hope he would be back in training yesterday as surely he would be able to get a flight back on Weds, although depending on flight times then maybe today.

JoJo last game was Sunday so he would have returned.

You can see the frustration, Grant is on international duty, then back for a couple of weeks then gone again, it is awkward to fit him into a team if he will be missing games, and then with the midfield fairly settled as well.

Maybe in his mind he does not feel he needs to hurry back as he will not be in the team and and will return to training next week.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, November 19, 2021, 13:49:19
I can see Garners frustration in all honesty.

I’d imagine Grant is being paid in or around the £1300pw limit we are allowed to spend, so one of the higher earners. When Garner signed him, Grant had never played for his country so Garner wouldn’t have thought about him missing as many games as he has.

I suspect its a bit of both ways, Garner never expected him to be an international and when he was called up Grant probably expected to be able to slot straight back in when h got back. As it has transpired we have done pretty well without him, seem to have decent replacements and he hasn't been able to get his place back.

It's not a later return though, they played Tuesday night local time here.  He wouldn't have managed to get a flight until the next evening and arrived yesterday - at best.  

I suspect its the sheer distances involved and the time zones that is fucking things up as much as anything, a quick google suggests London - Jamaica flight is c.10 hrs, Ldn-Ghana is c.6, add into that the time zones and Grants is going to be much more onerous.

Cannot see anyone bothering with him in January (And why would he move he has a contract here) and a see what happens come the summer.

I understand Garners frustrations, but equally perhaps its a bit of a compliment that his players are getting noticed?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Power to people on Friday, November 19, 2021, 13:55:48
Just found this from the adver press conference:

He arrived back in Heathrow yesterday, so Town are waiting to see if he can come in today (Covid-test pending)

So he arrived back on time, but the delay is his covid test


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, November 27, 2021, 14:21:46
Rob Angus confirming we have space in the budget to sign some players in January and that the council have upped their valuation of the County Ground but that they are meeting them to get a proper valuation to continue with the purchase of the CG from them.

Also he confirmed the tribunal is in the coming month for the Scott Twine transfer to MK Dongs.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, November 27, 2021, 14:37:04
No surprise the valuation is higher than 3/4 years ago. Can’t think it’s huge, though.

Maybe £2.5m up from £2.2m.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, November 27, 2021, 14:42:29
No surprise the valuation is higher than 3/4 years ago. Can’t think it’s huge, though.

Maybe £2.5m up from £2.2m.

For a moment there I thought you were talking about Twine.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Broadbents Tackle on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 18:16:14
Iandolo signs a contract extension, presumably until the end of 22/23 season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 18:22:06
I'm not mad, but not necessarily where I'd have started with contract extensions...


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 18:24:28
Quote from: Nemo
I'm not mad, but not necessarily where I'd have started with contract extensions...

quite.

But while restrictions won't be in place vect season, are we allowed to offer contracts on that basis?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 18:25:44
May be wrong but are the restrictions for new signings only


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Broadbents Tackle on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 18:56:54
I'm not mad, but not necessarily where I'd have started with contract extensions...

I'd imagine this one would be easier to agree than the ones who'd be higher up our collective lists.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 19:57:07
Iandolo signs a contract extension, presumably until the end of 22/23 season.

Nothing has been released on length, if I remember rightly we have not been told the length of Garners contract either, I hope this is not a something the club are deliberately doing


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: theakston2k on Wednesday, December 1, 2021, 17:18:52
So Ward has also signed a new contract but again no length given.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, December 1, 2021, 17:26:54
weird how contract lengths not being declared.

Any idea why?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Wednesday, December 1, 2021, 18:17:16
Carrying on the previous regime’s traditions?   ;)

Honestly though, no idea. Seems bizzare.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Posh Red on Wednesday, December 1, 2021, 20:11:47
Wasn’t it part of the embargo that new contracts can only be for 1 year?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, December 1, 2021, 20:23:31
Is that different from extending current contracts?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: dphunt88 on Thursday, December 2, 2021, 09:03:13
The Ellis Iandolo and Lewis Ward contract extensions are both until Summer 2023 I am told.

Unsure why the contract lengths aren't disclosed on the website articles. Seems an easy/obvious thing to include.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, December 2, 2021, 09:21:42
So Ward has also signed a new contract but again no length given.

A4, arf!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, December 2, 2021, 09:27:00
The Ellis Iandolo and Lewis Ward contract extensions are both until Summer 2023 I am told.

Unsure why the contract lengths aren't disclosed on the website articles. Seems an easy/obvious thing to include.

Thanks!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Berniman on Thursday, December 2, 2021, 09:49:01
I think it pretty obvious why Iandolo and Ward are the first extensions - would expect them to be more willing than others to be on a short term contract again and within the embargo budget.  I fully expect that there are some gentlemen agreements in there that tells them that another extension will be given once out of the embargo as long as A,B,C are fullfilled.

It also probably has something to do with the agents that they use.  I can't think of many others in the squad (outside of the youngsters) that might be willing to not be looking for longer term security and more money from their contracts though - but you can see why they are doing this.  It's a message to the fans that they are aware of the concerns of short term contracts from the fans and are actively making moves to address it.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, December 2, 2021, 09:59:37
I think it pretty obvious why Iandolo and Ward are the first extensions - would expect them to be more willing than others to be on a short term contract again and within the embargo budget.  I fully expect that there are some gentlemen agreements in there that tells them that another extension will be given once out of the embargo as long as A,B,C are fullfilled.

It also probably has something to do with the agents that they use.  I can't think of many others in the squad (outside of the youngsters) that might be willing to not be looking for longer term security and more money from their contracts though - but you can see why they are doing this.  It's a message to the fans that they are aware of the concerns of short term contracts from the fans and are actively making moves to address it.

Yeah agree with this Berni. I think it's encouraging that we are seeing players tied down onto longer contracts, yes Ward and Iandolo aren't the most important players in the team, but they are important squad players, Ward also becomes massively more important when the African Nations/World Cup are on so good to get that security sorted.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, December 2, 2021, 10:07:14
Assuming he stays for its duration, that will be Iandolo's eighth season here, I cannot think of a player who has been here that long in recent times (bet there are loads).

Think he sticks around due to his versatility, albeit he has already played more games this season (to date) than he has over any previous complete seasons, so Garner obviously likes him.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Hunk on Thursday, December 2, 2021, 10:10:06
Assuming he stays for its duration, that will be Iandolo's eighth season here, I cannot think of a player who has been here that long in recent times (bet there are loads).

Think he sticks around due to his versatility, albeit he has already played more games this season (to date) than he has over any previous complete seasons, so Garner obviously likes him.

Nathan Thompson was the first that sprung to mind. His first season was 2010/11 and his last was 2016/2017. He was on our books from 2007/08 however.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, December 2, 2021, 10:10:19
Assuming he stays for its duration, that will be Iandolo's eighth season here, I cannot think of a player who has been here that long in recent times (bet there are loads).

Think he sticks around due to his versatility, albeit he has already played more games this season (to date) than he has over any previous complete seasons, so Garner obviously likes him.

Garner is possibly the coach that Iandolo needs to improve his game. I think we have already seen improvements to his game. Defensively he's not great and his delivery into the box needs work but there is a handy enough League 2 utility player there. Whether he can go much above that level is debatable, but under Garner is more achievable than under previous managers by the looks of things.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, December 2, 2021, 10:13:11
but there is a handy enough League 2 utility player there. Whether he can go much above that level is debatable, but under Garner is more achievable than under previous managers by the looks of things.

And there I suspect is why he is happy to sign a years extension with a manager who rates him, and if we do go up he at least gets another years salary!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, December 2, 2021, 10:22:12
I like Ian Dolo. He’s surprisingly skilful and shows it off in flashes. Always remember the quick feet at Cambridge.

Garner seems to want footballers first and foremost. Specific positions - not so much.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, December 2, 2021, 10:26:59
He's frustrating. He's never seemed to put it all together to my eyes. I've seen him cross well. I've seen him take up good attacking positions. I've seen him defend. I've seen he's got good technique on the ball.

Can't remember it all  happen in the same game too often, or consistently.

In fairness he's had bad luck in the in injury department, and a run of games may see him getting better.

I guess you don't do 8 years at a club without something about you. So what do I know.




Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Thursday, December 2, 2021, 10:35:46
My biggest issue with him is that he is actually our most dangerous outlet but he has 1 assist all season. There have been games he should be getting more than that in a single game the amount of great positions he gets in but then the final ball or touch lets him down.



Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, December 2, 2021, 10:40:14
My biggest issue with him is that he is actually our most dangerous outlet but he has 1 assist all season. There have been games he should be getting more than that in a single game the amount of great positions he gets in but then the final ball or touch lets him down.

Couldn't agree more.

But maybe its old age, but a few seasons ago I'm sure he was putting in dangerous cross after cross.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, December 2, 2021, 10:46:44
Couldn't agree more.

But maybe its old age, but a few seasons ago I'm sure he was putting in dangerous cross after cross.

Was this when we had Doyle and Yates?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, December 2, 2021, 10:58:39
it may have been before then. but I get the point.


Title: Re: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Thursday, December 2, 2021, 11:07:54
My biggest issue with him is that he is actually our most dangerous outlet but he has 1 assist all season. There have been games he should be getting more than that in a single game the amount of great positions he gets in but then the final ball or touch lets him down.
Get Nicky Summerbee in as a part time coach to do some crossing training.

Sent from my XQ-AD51


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, December 2, 2021, 11:20:56
Get Nicky Summerbee in as a part time coach to do some crossing training.

Sent from my XQ-AD51
Not sure if you have seen it but the cross from Judge on Tuesday for the 1st goal was very Summerbee esque.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, December 2, 2021, 11:26:16
Not sure if you have seen it but the cross from Judge on Tuesday for the 1st goal was very Summerbee esque.

All 3 goals on Tuesday were from excellent deliveries into the box.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, December 2, 2021, 11:35:29
All 3 goals on Tuesday were from excellent deliveries into the box.
Absolutely they were mate, but the Judge corner was very Summerbee like in the hard low trajectory driven with the outside of the right foot into a precise spot just perfect for the player to attack it and not do too much work.

We rarely see driven crosses these days at head height they are often driven low and hard to the near post, something else Buzzer was great at doing TBH.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: RobertT on Thursday, December 2, 2021, 12:40:18
He's frustrating. He's never seemed to put it all together to my eyes. I've seen him cross well. I've seen him take up good attacking positions. I've seen him defend. I've seen he's got good technique on the ball.

Can't remember it all  happen in the same game too often, or consistently.

In fairness he's had bad luck in the in injury department, and a run of games may see him getting better.

I guess you don't do 8 years at a club without something about you. So what do I know.




How long did Pook manage?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, December 2, 2021, 12:52:54
How long did Pook manage?

Setting aside yoof time, 4 years, feels like longer!

And Daisy Duke 5.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Broadbents Tackle on Saturday, December 4, 2021, 21:03:37
Parsons got a hat-trick and Aguiar got the other in a 4-1 win for Chippenham today.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, December 28, 2021, 18:35:01
2 more for Harry Parsons this afternoon.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 28, 2021, 19:16:03
2 more for Harry Parsons this afternoon.
Garner in an interview before the Barrow game stated that Parsons was the best finisher at the club, yet he never plays him as a striker, something he gets at Chippenham. Apparently Aguiar and Parsons should both have scored several more and missed easy chances.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, December 28, 2021, 19:21:01
Echoes of Twine


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: digby on Wednesday, December 29, 2021, 14:39:53
Talking of Twine, wasn't his tribunal for setting the fee, supposed be in December - any news ?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, December 29, 2021, 14:41:43
Keep up. £250,000 rising to £400,000 on appearances. Plus, we think, a sell on.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Power to people on Friday, December 31, 2021, 17:17:09
Keep up. £250,000 rising to £400,000 on appearances. Plus, we think, a sell on.

Thought the club would want to confirm this with the all new openness


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, December 31, 2021, 17:24:06
Keep up. £250,000 rising to £400,000 on appearances. Plus, we think, a sell on.

Where exactly was this confirmed? I've not seen anything on either Swindon or Franchise's website or on the adver.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Quagmire on Friday, December 31, 2021, 19:18:18
There hasn’t been anything confirmed other than Twitter talk.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: swindonmaniac on Friday, December 31, 2021, 20:21:28
There hasn’t been anything confirmed other than Twitter talk.
Ahhh,  must be right then !!.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, December 31, 2021, 20:24:39
There hasn’t been anything confirmed other than Twitter talk.

So probably misinformation then?


Title: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Friday, December 31, 2021, 20:48:03
bit of an odd thing to make up, but we have a better chance of knowing at some point under this regime

oh and it seems to have come from here

https://twitter.com/Fball_Insights_/status/1473680532861030410?t=mtgy1dJ-OLu2oCiJQBcJsg&s=19


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, December 31, 2021, 20:55:29
bit of an odd thing to make up, but we have a better chance of knowing at some point under this regime

oh and it seems to have come from here

https://twitter.com/Fball_Insights_/status/1473680532861030410?t=mtgy1dJ-OLu2oCiJQBcJsg&s=19

Cheers Batch. 'Football insider' sounds like one of those ITK transfer accounts that cropped up recently. I would have imagined if this was true then it would have been at least announced on the club website, perhaps it still will.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Oaksey Moonraker on Friday, December 31, 2021, 22:43:38
It will make a mockery of the tribunal process if it's set at £250K and then MK Don's accept a big offer in the January window.

Think tribunals set a sell on clause as a matter of course though.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Sunday, January 2, 2022, 16:43:04
Emmanuel Idem from Derby was at the game apparently? Goalie.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Quagmire on Sunday, January 2, 2022, 16:59:25
Emmanuel Idem from Derby was at the game apparently? Goalie.

He was - in full STFC tracksuit too.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, January 2, 2022, 16:59:30
Not heard of him, 23 released by Derby in October then was training at Portsmouth according to google.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: newmarket red on Sunday, January 2, 2022, 16:59:36
Emmanuel Idem from Derby was at the game apparently? Goalie.
free agent aswell.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, January 2, 2022, 17:22:26
He’s big

He’s slick

His name’s a porno flick

Emanuel, Emanuel


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, January 2, 2022, 17:27:54
 :tumbleweed:


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Sunday, January 2, 2022, 18:03:43
Looked on Youtube for videos of Mr Idem. Only one I could find was a Derby U19s where he dived at 2 wide shots late and JML seemed to feature lots.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Red Frog on Monday, January 3, 2022, 08:43:10
He’s big

He’s slick

His name’s a porno flick

Emanuel, Emanuel

Well now we just have to sign him.  :clap:


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, January 3, 2022, 10:05:43
TBF he was well regarded as a youth prospect having been at Arsenal, Stoke, Derby, Villa as a youngster who then went on to Derby, Macclesfield and camvey Island and was wanted by Pompey a year ago but it never materialised.

Quote
Their boss, Danny Cowley, has said: “He’s been with us since the summer. He’s been training with us.

“Manny Idem, I think he was at Derby last but he’s been coming and training with the group and he’s a good character, larger than life.

“Obviously has lots of energy, lots of enthusiasm and he is a good goalie as well. It has been good that he has been in and training with the group.”

Career to date
Idem had spells in the academies at Stoke City and Aston Villa before he was released by the latter in 2018.

He was subsequently snapped up by Macclesfield Town and had half-a-season playing in League Two.

The Londoner then had a spell in non-league at Canvey Island before Derby signed him last summer.

He was brought in to provide goalkeeping cover for the Rams but they decided to let him depart when his contract expired a few months ago.

Nowt to lose in signing him as cover.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Monday, January 3, 2022, 10:14:46
About time Nixon was bombarded with any transfer news about us. I don’t do Twitter but I know some of you have and enjoy a bit of sport with the Fudster.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Monday, January 3, 2022, 10:38:31
I would, but he blocked me for questioning him about something power related


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Monday, January 3, 2022, 11:00:07
I would, but he blocked me for questioning him about something power related

You have friends in low places, utilise them 😁


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nemo on Monday, January 3, 2022, 11:59:19
Never mind Nixon, Tansmedia has gone a bit quiet these days...


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: tans on Monday, January 3, 2022, 12:05:01
Never mind Nixon, Tansmedia has gone a bit quiet these days...
Thats because twitter have locked the account!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, January 3, 2022, 12:36:25
Thats because twitter have locked the account!
Time for Tansmedia2 revenge of Tansmedia!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, January 4, 2022, 14:52:38
Gilbert recalled. Feels like a really strong candidate for the player I forget in the Sporcle Quiz of this season in 3-4 years time.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, January 4, 2022, 14:56:17
Nowt to lose in signing him as cover.

From the quote from Danny Cowley...

“Obviously has lots of energy, lots of enthusiasm and he is a good goalie as well. It has been good that he has been in and training with the group.”

Fills me with confidence that Cowley only puts goalkeeping down third in a list of his attributes!  :D


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, January 4, 2022, 19:12:59
Looked on Youtube for videos of Mr Idem. Only one I could find was a Derby U19s where he dived at 2 wide shots late and JML seemed to feature lots.

As late as Lee Camp ?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Tuesday, January 4, 2022, 19:14:59
Gilbert recalled. Feels like a really strong candidate for the player I forget in the Sporcle Quiz of this season in 3-4 years time.
Looked very good when he made his debut as sub at Stevenage...that was about it really...


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, January 4, 2022, 19:20:49
Looked very good when he made his debut as sub at Stevenage...that was about it really...

That was the only notable performance I can recall.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Pookemon on Tuesday, January 4, 2022, 19:48:00
Looked very good when he made his debut as sub at Stevenage...that was about it really...

Agreed and could say the same about JML.

Gilbert started against Newport and was absolutely woeful, then was no better at home against Colchester a few weeks later - which probably sealed his fate.

 He was a backup striker/forward signing on last day of the window, but he's shot shy so is not a striker.  He also seems too indecisive and cautious to play the no 10 role and we have plenty of them anyway.   

Can run on the ball, so perhaps winger would suit, but what the fuck do I know, he's still young so good luck to the lad.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, January 4, 2022, 19:53:51
Parsons is coming back from Chippenham covering for Gilbert’s departure until a replacement is signed.

If Barry is supposed to be that player it could be a while until he arrives.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, January 4, 2022, 20:04:55
I imagine that’s also taking Payne’s injury into account. Barry will be here before Friday.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, January 4, 2022, 21:24:30
I imagine that’s also taking Payne’s injury into account. Barry will be here before Friday.
Hope Payne is fit for Friday as he deserves it, who will be captain if not? Hunt?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: NotHarryAgombar on Tuesday, January 4, 2022, 22:13:35
Iandolo had the armband when Payne went off on Saturday
But presumably Conroy will be back.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Boy About Town on Wednesday, January 5, 2022, 09:08:39
Agreed and could say the same about JML.

Gilbert started against Newport and was absolutely woeful, then was no better at home against Colchester a few weeks later - which probably sealed his fate.

 He was a backup striker/forward signing on last day of the window, but he's shot shy so is not a striker.  He also seems too indecisive and cautious to play the no 10 role and we have plenty of them anyway.   

Can run on the ball, so perhaps winger would suit, but what the fuck do I know, he's still young so good luck to the lad.

He was garbage.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, January 8, 2022, 14:43:27
Minturn to Chippenham on loan


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: river monster on Saturday, January 8, 2022, 16:56:10
Another 2 goals for Aguiar today


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: JoeMezz on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 11:15:47
Crichlow recalled by H'field


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Crackity Jones on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 11:18:26
Ffs


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 11:26:50
Let's hope O'Briens injury isn't that bad


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Hyabb17 on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 11:27:05
Crichlow recalled by H'field

Can't say I'm surprised as he's hardly been playing recently & the new lad started over him on Tuesday, probably the final straw which broke the camels back. Can't imagine Huddersfield were happy about that. Squad is now looking thin!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 11:30:52
Defensive depth is very low now for sure:

Conroy
Odimayo
Hunt
Iandolo
O'Brien

Baudry (Injured?)
Grant (Leaving? Primarily a midfielder anyway even if he could do a job)
Minturn (Youth, at Chippenham?)
Winchcombe (Youth)

Not great when we play 3/5 at the back more often than not.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Crackity Jones on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 11:33:53
The defence picks itself for now with no real competition for places. Hopefully the two Bens have contingency plans


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 11:35:01
Going to a promotion chasing league one club.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: MangoRed on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 11:35:42
That’s what happens when you don’t play loan players. Look a better side with him in it. Good work Garner 👍


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 11:37:14
Defensive depth is very low now for sure:

Conroy
Odimayo
Hunt
Iandolo
O'Brien

Baudry (Injured?)
Grant (Leaving? Primarily a midfielder anyway even if he could do a job)
Minturn (Youth, at Chippenham?)
Winchcombe (Youth)

Not great when we play 3/5 at the back more often than not.

Concerning  is the lack of pace on the flanks and KKH is a massive lost.
Another defensive loan no doubt will follow.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 11:39:02
That’s what happens when you don’t play loan players. Look a better side with him in it. Good work Garner 👍

More to do with Huddersfield and wanting to play him at a higher level.
KKH looking to already feature for Villa.

The risk with decent loan players and being under an embargo.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: MangoRed on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 11:41:07
if he was playing every week though like he should, instead of persisting with the managers golden egg boys, I think he stays with us all season and Hudds don't call back unless he's gonna play in their starting XI


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 11:45:56
So much for Garner saying he wasn’t expecting any of the loan players to leave - that’s 3 gone now. Hope they had a contingency for that.

Think I’m going to write this season off as far as the POs are concerned. Get rid of the umbongo in the summer and start over - hoping the usual suspects stay, of course.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: MangoRed on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 11:49:48
Agree, play offs looking our best chance now.

This squad at the start of the season looked more than capable of promotion. Choosing to use Tyreece Simpson as the only number 9 in squad looks like a big mistake in all. Garner done the same at rovers- used 1 number 9. Last few away performances have all had similarities sadly. Need a few more nasty experienced players to impose on other teams, as the likes of Conroy and Gladwin in the spine of the team don't scream imposing to me.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Crackity Jones on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 11:52:44
if he was playing every week though like he should, instead of persisting with the managers golden egg boys, I think he stays with us all season and Hudds don't call back unless he's gonna play in their starting XI
sorry, but the facts don't back this up. The majority of the games he has been involved in, he has started.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Frigby Daser on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 11:53:10
The season is heading in the wrong direction all of a sudden. We need a seriously good couple of weeks from Chorley. Crichlow was important. Playing a back three, he gave us a balance that the right footed centre backs can’t. Four good solid first teamers needed I think (left sided centre back, left wing back cover, striker and KKH a KKH replacement), or another year in this division. The problem with the one year contracts, is we may have to start all over again come the summer if we don’t retain the stronger players.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: MangoRed on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 11:53:27
Recently he hasn't though


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: fuzzy on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 11:53:56
Wasn't he injured recently?

I thought he was being subbed on to protect him.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: MangoRed on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 11:54:07
The season is heading in the wrong direction all of a sudden. We need a seriously good couple of weeks from Chorley. Four good solid first teamers needed I think, or another year in this division. The problem with the one year contracts, is we may have to start all over again come the summer if we don’t retain the stronger players.

For sure, I don't see Reed and Williams staying in league two to be honest. Hope I'm wrong.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Hyabb17 on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 11:54:47
As I understand it we can only bring in ''loans'' or ''out of contract'' players this month. Going to be a tough one I think.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: adje on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 11:59:53


 Get rid of the umbongo in the summer and start over - hoping the usual suspects stay, of course.

Is that Garners new nickname?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Crackity Jones on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 12:00:19
Wasn't he injured recently?

I thought he was being subbed on to protect him.
Injured and then Covid I thought but I might be wrong


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 12:11:03
So much for Garner saying he wasn’t expecting any of the loan players to leave - that’s 3 gone now. Hope they had a contingency for that.

Think I’m going to write this season off as far as the POs are concerned. Get rid of the umbongo in the summer and start over - hoping the usual suspects stay, of course.
Exactly the same for me, the club has told us all season that the priority is getting the stuff off the pitch sorted. We are doing well on the pitch which adds pressure of course but i am happy to just see what this season brings and if it's mid table and stability off the pitch then i will take that. In football terms next summer is our most important


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Frigby Daser on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 12:13:57
Have to disagree. We’re in with a shout of going up, for the sake of 4, maybe 5 signings. Do that and our chances of retaining our better players increases. We can’t assume we’ll be able to build another strong squad - and we’ve got to take our chance, or at least aim to.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Riddick on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 12:17:38
Have to wait and see where we are at the end of Jan i guess.

I had hoped given how the first half of the season was going, the club may have pushed to pay the loan back and sieze the chance to get the better player in and strengthen the squad. I completely understand why they are not, and i have to constantly remind myself of preseaon expectations.

I fear its not so easy, even next season when the embargo is no longer in place, to get yourself in this position again.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: theakston2k on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 12:22:23
So currently based on the last 6 league games we’ve got the worst defence in the league now with absolutely no one challenging them for their places. What could possibly go wrong?!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 12:28:24
Have to disagree. We’re in with a shout of going up, for the sake of 4, maybe 5 signings. Do that and our chances of retaining our better players increases. We can’t assume we’ll be able to build another strong squad - and we’ve got to take our chance, or at least aim to.
The problem is with that is that it will be over £1m to repay that loan, it's more than just for the sake of 4/5 players. That's not to say they won't be trying to push still but i do think we need to be realistic a bit here


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: tans on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 12:32:25
Personally i think the players we have at the moment such as Reed, Williams wont be here next season. They can talk to other clubs now cant they? They would have the security of being offered longer deals at the present time


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 12:35:02
Going to a promotion chasing league one club.
Rotherham to replace ex Town defender REG who is wanted by several Championship teams.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 12:36:43
The loan doesn’t need to be repaid in one go. Structured payments and with the umbongo lifted anyway there should be a fair bit of leeway when it comes to recruitment.

Give some credit to Garner, he has got the best out of McKirdy, Reed and Payne and if they re-sign will be fairly valuable assets. Also great credit must go to the back room medical and rehab staff with getting Conroy fit to play a series of games and, hopefully, Lyden - who looked finished with that last injury but is now looking in the form of his life here.

How many times have we said on here that if we only had a functioning defence. The players are well good enough - the organisation isn’t.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 12:36:46
So much for Garner saying he wasn’t expecting any of the loan players to leave - that’s 3 gone now. Hope they had a contingency for that.
Makes me think that garner has little say in most of our transfer in and out TBH.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: fuzzy on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 12:41:34
I would hope that, with our history of somewhat iffy helmsmen and the shit that has happened to other clubs saying fuck it- all in for the climb up the greasy pole, our current owner and CEO have a bit of sense about them and want to concentrate on making us a long term viable concern.

A season of consolidation and getting back on an even keel may not get the juices flowing but it is what we need. If that consolidation just so happens to coincide with excitement- fine but, no excitement at a risk to our club (yet!) please.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 12:41:38
Makes me think that garner has little say in most of our transfer in and out TBH.

Surely that's (almost) completely Chorley's remit as DOF isn't it?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 12:42:05
Makes me think that garner has little say in most of our transfer in and out TBH.

In what way/s?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 12:44:26
Exactly the same for me, the club has told us all season that the priority is getting the stuff off the pitch sorted. We are doing well on the pitch which adds pressure of course but i am happy to just see what this season brings and if it's mid table and stability off the pitch then i will take that. In football terms next summer is our most important

This, I also have a slightly perverse wish that Garner fucks off in the summer, reading the consent bitching about a manger who has got us into the play off spots with a thrown together squad is getting quite boring now.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 12:45:15
Makes me think that garner has little say in most of our transfer in and out TBH.

Isn't it the same as when Wellens was here, for many fans the good signings were Wellens the shite ones Jewell!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 12:53:15
In what way/s?
As BO says, Chorley is the "signings man".

Isn't it the same as when Wellens was here, for many fans the good signings were Wellens the shite ones Jewell!
Very similar.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: theakston2k on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 13:01:20
Just signed for Plymouth


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 13:04:02
Just signed for Plymouth
Interesting move, Muff are doing very well and dont seem to ship lots of goals either.

TBH I think thats a league above his current level of ability.

From the 'Muff forum.
Quote
Sounds like an astute signing. Lots of Swindon fans replying to the story on the Swindon Town Twitter account seem pretty gutted with a number of them saying he has been their best defender this season. Should provide good competition for Gillesphey on that left hand side of central defence.

Not sure which player they were watching but hes not been our best defender in pretty much any game this season IMO, hes adequate in L2.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: JoeMezz on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 13:14:31
Losing him weakens us but doubt it strengthens them much. Fairly decent in the air and athletic but not good enough on the ball in L1 for me. Time will tell


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: cheltred69 on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 13:19:29
On surface seems an odd one from Huddersfield, moving him from a team where he’s started nearly every game to one where he’s referred to as providing competition to the squad.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bogus Dave on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 13:20:14
The same crichlow that’s started one game since November? He was fine, nothing more. We’ll recover


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 13:23:52
Surely that's (almost) completely Chorley's remit as DOF isn't it?

I'm sure its a decision between the 2 of them rather than purely being down to Chorley, they probably discuss players and it is down to Chorley to talk to the clubs and agents and get them over the line


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 13:28:08
The same crichlow that’s started one game since November? He was fine, nothing more. We’ll recover

Is it that long ago?!

Agreed in terms of criticality, but we are thin on the ground if/when an injury comes.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 14:00:31
Interesting move, Muff are doing very well and dont seem to ship lots of goals either.

TBH I think thats a league above his current level of ability.

From the 'Muff forum.
Not sure which player they were watching but hes not been our best defender in pretty much any game this season IMO, hes adequate in L2.

See, I’d say he has, it certainly hasn’t been Conroy or Baudry and I think he’s been better than AK


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Frigby Daser on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 14:21:03
One vote here for him being our (former) best defender. Gives us speed, aerial presence, and fewer clangers than Conroy - as well as the balance I mentioned before. No panic, just disappointment at this, combined with KKH and losing 3 of the last 5, plus Stevenage and now unsure if we beat Northampton just because of their Covid cases. In two weeks this could all change and we could be stronger than ever, but we need to move fast if we want to go up.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 14:23:27
See, I’d say he has, it certainly hasn’t been Conroy or Baudry and I think he’s been better than AK

Not much in it between all of Centre backs this season. All played much of a muchness.
No one head and shoulders above the rest.

Don’t think we will suddenly fall apart without him but think we are worse off now.

Think this would be less of a blow if KKH was still here as Hunt has done ok at CB but with him now back at RWB (and our only RWB) that takes away the option of him in the back 3


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Red Frog on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 14:25:53
Quite a few quivering lips on here today. I suspect the Bens have noticed we're a couple of heads light in defence, and I'm happy to wait and see how they address that over the next couple of weeks before I fall into despondency.

They did an OK job with a much bigger overhaul in August.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 14:31:32
Not much in it between all of Centre backs this season. All played much of a muchness.
No one head and shoulders above the rest.
This.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Berniman on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 14:44:51
Maybe, just maybe this is one of the reasons why Conroy was brought straight back in and JOB made his debut on Tuesday - it's almost like the club know more about discussions about players futures than we do..


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 14:53:47
Maybe, just maybe this is one of the reasons why Conroy was brought straight back in and JOB made his debut on Tuesday - it's almost like the club know more about discussions about players futures than we do..

🤔 you may have something there 😉


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Crispy on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 15:04:33
Maybe, just maybe this is one of the reasons why Conroy was brought straight back in and JOB made his debut on Tuesday - it's almost like the club know more about discussions about players futures than we do..

Maybe, just maybe it's because Conroy threw his toys about after recent FA Cup 3rd round team selections and Garner caved in.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 15:37:56
Conroy started v city. why would he throw his toys after?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: tans on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 15:43:07
Is Crispy saying Conroy kicked off as he wasnt originally in the team for the 3rd round game


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Posh Red on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 15:45:17
Not sure which player they were watching but hes not been our best defender in pretty much any game this season IMO, hes adequate in L2.

Who do you think has been our best defender?

Certainly not Conroy, who has been quite poor for some time now.

It’s also interesting that our defence has been fairly shambolic for the last month or so, which also coincides with him not playing

For me, it was a toss up between him & Rob Hunt


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 15:46:16
Quote from: tans
Is Crispy saying Conroy kicked off as he wasnt originally in the team for the 3rd round game

oh, I see


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: JoeMezz on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 15:49:26
Who do you think has been our best defender?


Odimayo for me. Tuesday I thought he was poor and shouldn't have slid in (but did win the ball, was right in front of me). He's been the most consistent, can't remember many bad games


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: JoeMezz on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 16:49:58
Mckirdy contract extension


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: tans on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 16:57:42
Mckirdy contract extension

Good news


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 16:59:38
Yup, good news. So that's Ward, Parsons, McKirdy and Iandolo signed up beyond this summer, right? Costanza has been a bit slack updating the first post of this thread (boo, hiss etc.)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 17:09:13
That’s great news! He certainly falls into the category of a player being at the right club at the right time to produce his best form of his career.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: JoeMezz on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 17:12:48
That’s great news! He certainly falls into the category of a player being at the right club at the right time to produce his best form of his career.

No brainer for him to stay. System let’s him express himself and he clearly plays his best football here. Long may it continue


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 17:16:20
Or a cynic would say there's interest in him so let's tie him down on a longer contract to increase his potential value.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 17:18:26
Makes me think that garner has little say in most of our transfer in and out TBH.

This is true.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 17:20:13
Or a cynic would say there's interest in him so let's tie him down on a longer contract to increase his potential value.
That wouldn’t be cynical. That’d be sensible.

He says he loves it here, on and off the pitch. Something he’s never had before.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: JoeMezz on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 17:22:06
Or a cynic would say there's interest in him so let's tie him down on a longer contract to increase his potential value.

Either way it's win win


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: theakston2k on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 17:26:03
Maybe, just maybe it's because Conroy threw his toys about after recent FA Cup 3rd round team selections and Garner caved in.
You can’t just l leave it at that….

Good news about the angry squirrel.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 17:26:13
Defensively so many short memories on here.
It was absolutely fine up and until Orient away. You are going to get bad performances but suddenly we have definitely gone backwards defending since that game.
Going to be really tough Saturday and no doubt a change to formation.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: swindonmaniac on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 17:36:06
Grant is still with us,  gotta be worth giving him a go at some stage,  the way we’re going we may need him more than he needs us.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 17:37:40
Who do you think has been our best defender?

Certainly not Conroy, who has been quite poor for some time now.

It’s also interesting that our defence has been fairly shambolic for the last month or so, which also coincides with him not playing

For me, it was a toss up between him & Rob Hunt
I don't think we have any "best defender" as such just decent middling L2 ones, Conroy is our best passer from defence, Odimayo is out best athletic defender and Hunt is very versatile, and Iandolo is better going forwards than defending but TBH they could all be replaced with similar or better.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 18:45:14
I don't think we have any "best defender" as such just decent middling L2 ones, Conroy is our best passer from defence, Odimayo is out best athletic defender and Hunt is very versatile, and Iandolo is better going forwards than defending but TBH they could all be replaced with similar or better.

Would go with this.
Collectively though they can defend better. Still not having it all against the backline though, the movement in front of them is static, that can also be improved upon.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: NotHarryAgombar on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 18:48:35
I wonder if Critchlow’s recall and loan to Plymouth is also financial - for Huddersfield.
I recall reading somewhere- I think in one of the press conferences - the embargo limits us to free transfers and low cost loans.
Maybe Plymouth offered a loan fee whereas the terms of his loan here were cheaper for us - meaning the new arrangement reduces the cost of his wages to  Huddersfield as well as. Getting him L1 experience.
I also recall he had a good game in the EFL trophy against them earlier in the season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Thursday, January 13, 2022, 19:47:48
Grant is still with us,  gotta be worth giving him a go at some stage,  the way we’re going we may need him more than he needs us.

Not at the back please. Remember him filling in there before and it was suicide.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Friday, January 14, 2022, 08:44:04
I wonder if Critchlow’s recall and loan to Plymouth is also financial - for Huddersfield.
I recall reading somewhere- I think in one of the press conferences - the embargo limits us to free transfers and low cost loans.
Maybe Plymouth offered a loan fee whereas the terms of his loan here were cheaper for us - meaning the new arrangement reduces the cost of his wages to  Huddersfield as well as. Getting him L1 experience.
I also recall he had a good game in the EFL trophy against them earlier in the season.

Same as Villa.
Simply want their players to develop and pulled the players back from us with little notice.
Unfortunately the territory with these loan deals.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, January 14, 2022, 09:11:48
Unfortunately with us in league 2 it's always an occupational hazard that loan players have a good first half of the season and their parent clubs then have the option to recall them, or as Huddersfield have done recall and then send to a club in a higher division. Clearly given our lack of any preparation pre-season getting players such as KKH and Crichlow were a blessing. I personally thought Crichlow was very good as our LCB and pretty disappointed to see him go.

2 more weeks of transfer window to go, Man City and Scott Twine money into the club, lets see where we are once the window is closed.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: 4D on Friday, January 14, 2022, 11:23:00
McKirdy has signed a new contract.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: JoeMezz on Friday, January 14, 2022, 11:26:49
McKirdy has signed a new contract.

We lost to Mansfield 3-2.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: molepar on Friday, January 14, 2022, 11:27:13
We haven’t been announcing lengths of these contract extensions. Does anyone know what lengths we have offered those who have signed on? Rob Angus has been a bit vague about terms of embargo and I wonder if that is deliberate.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: JoeMezz on Friday, January 14, 2022, 11:31:38
We haven’t been announcing lengths of these contract extensions. Does anyone know what lengths we have offered those who have signed on? Rob Angus has been a bit vague about terms of embargo and I wonder if that is deliberate.

I thought we can only offer a one-year deal... maybe now it's January we can offer for next year? Wouldn't be surprised if the contract is a one-year extension with the option to extend by another year once the embargo is lifted in the summer. Would seem the most logical reason for not giving contract length


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, January 14, 2022, 11:36:18
I thought we can only offer a one-year deal... maybe now it's January we can offer for next year? Wouldn't be surprised if the contract is a one-year extension with the option to extend by another year once the embargo is lifted in the summer. Would seem the most logical reason for not giving contract length
This is my take on it too.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: JoeMezz on Friday, January 14, 2022, 11:39:55
This is my take on it too.

Who else have we extended? Iandolo and Ward?

Presume we could extend Iandolo because he was already a squad member pre-embargo and different rules around keepers hence Ward's extension.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, January 14, 2022, 12:04:57
Who else have we extended? Iandolo and Ward?

Presume we could extend Iandolo because he was already a squad member pre-embargo and different rules around keepers hence Ward's extension.
Thats the three that have been announced so far.

I hope Jojo will be added to that and Odimayo too.

Reed, Hunt, Payne, Williams, and possibly Lyden would be good to extend, the rest are neither here nor there if they stay or leave now for me.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: 4D on Friday, January 14, 2022, 12:17:42
We lost to Mansfield 3-2.

I've only just read it smart arse.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Power to people on Friday, January 14, 2022, 12:33:50
Thats the three that have been announced so far.

I hope Jojo will be added to that and Odimayo too.

Reed, Hunt, Payne, Williams, and possibly Lyden would be good to extend, the rest are neither here nor there if they stay or leave now for me.

Maybe some of those will be last to extend as they may already be on the maximum £1300 a week and will be looking for a pay rise with their extension rather than the others who may earn close to the emargo limit so the club had wriggle room to pay them a little more and extend.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, January 14, 2022, 12:35:19
Maybe some of those will be last to extend as they may already be on the maximum £1300 a week and will be looking for a pay rise with their extension rather than the others who may earn close to the emargo limit so the club had wriggle room to pay them a little more and extend.
Yes we are not privvy to the exact wage deals and structures but going by what Clem/Garner/Angus have said we are tied quite tightly under the embargo.

It could well be something like that.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, January 14, 2022, 12:40:08
Surely those players already with us can have their contracts improved without recourse to the embargo. Isn’t it just for new players - either permanent or loan.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Quagmire on Friday, January 14, 2022, 12:44:55
Surely those players already with us can have their contracts improved without recourse to the embargo. Isn’t it just for new players - either permanent or loan.

Nope, otherwise you could sign a player under the embargo terms, and then a day later offer them a new and improved contract.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, January 14, 2022, 12:45:48
Ghana v Gabon this evening. If Ghana lose this one are they unable to qualify from their group?

Asking for a friend.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, January 14, 2022, 12:52:14
Ghana v Gabon this evening. If Ghana lose this one are they unable to qualify from their group?

Asking for a friend.
Yes they will be bottom on 0 points, they need to win 1 and draw one the remaining games to proceed.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Frigby Daser on Friday, January 14, 2022, 12:54:08
Surely those players already with us can have their contracts improved without recourse to the embargo. Isn’t it just for new players - either permanent or loan.

I don’t know the embargo conditions, but one solution that could work for all concerned would be an extension (as we have with McKirdy, presumably on the same salary, but for a longer term. This assumes he had a one-yr contract in the first place and this isn’t just a renewal of a short term contract til the end of the season.) The new extension could offer an increased salary, to apply when we have settled the loan and the embargo is lifted. If we settle the loan, we therefore protect the value in the player. If we don’t settle the loan, there’s a release clause for free. That means the player gets the same flexibility as now, and security of a contract for next year (which they could of course use to negotiate a better deal elsewhere), and we reduce the risk of having to start off from scratch again in the summer. Some players (the likes of JoJo) might not go for it, and assume that they’re better off not having the security for next year, preferring to take their chances in the market.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Lemis on Friday, January 14, 2022, 13:08:28
Yes they will be bottom on 0 points, they need to win 1 and draw one the remaining games to proceed.

Isn't the tournament like the euros where four of the third placed teams progress to the knock outs, so Ghana could theoretically be in the next round with the one win?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, January 14, 2022, 13:11:40
Isn't the tournament like the euros where four of the third placed teams progress to the knock outs, so Ghana could theoretically be in the next round with the one win?
TBH I am not sure on that, I stand corrected.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, January 14, 2022, 20:41:35
Watching Wollacott in the AFCON. The Ayew brothers are a pair of obnoxious cunts aren’t they, all they do is moan at their team mates and give it the big I am. Ghana are awful and don’t seem to have any kind of team spirit.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Hunk on Friday, January 14, 2022, 23:05:54
If this has been posted elsewhere I apologise, but the Adver say we’ve been granted 300k for Twine via tribunal and a 20% sell on fee. Am I right in thinking that’s one helluva result for the coffers if correct?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: molepar on Friday, January 14, 2022, 23:13:52
If this has been posted elsewhere I apologise, but the Adver say we’ve been granted 300k for Twine via tribunal and a 20% sell on fee. Am I right in thinking that’s one helluva result for the coffers if correct?

Seems like better than we could have expected - especially if he goes for big bucks which is possible…


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Pookemon on Friday, January 14, 2022, 23:34:03
Watching Wollacott in the AFCON. The Ayew brothers are a pair of obnoxious cunts aren’t they, all they do is moan at their team mates and give it the big I am. Ghana are awful and don’t seem to have any kind of team spirit.
Not really surprised.  Bet they have someone to wipe their arse for them.
I thought Ghana could easily have won that but they chose to sit back, fall over, waste time etc for the entire 2nd half.

The equaliser came from Ghana kicking the ball out on the half way line, because one of their players was rolling around holding his shin a minute or so after the ref said play on.

They had the ball - just get up you tart.  Also didn't understand why Ghana took a minute to make 2 subs.  Just get on with it - you need to win FFS.

Twattish stuff just does my head in.   Probably why I can't cope with the tippy tappy stuff at the back most of the time.   


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: tans on Saturday, January 15, 2022, 14:16:35
Grant off


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Saturday, January 15, 2022, 14:31:59
Grant off

Go on, I’ll bite. Genuine ITK or an associate of Tansmedia?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Saturday, January 15, 2022, 14:37:07
Quote from: tans
Grant off

anywhere mentioned?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Saturday, January 15, 2022, 14:38:20
I’m amazed Grant has lasted here this far into January tbh


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: tans on Saturday, January 15, 2022, 14:53:54
Exeter apparently according to rumbles on twitter


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Tails on Saturday, January 15, 2022, 15:09:46
Thats straight from Tailsmedia. Sorry about that


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: tans on Saturday, January 15, 2022, 15:15:33
Fucker


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Saturday, January 15, 2022, 16:22:27
soapy tit wank


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Sunday, January 16, 2022, 16:54:42
Really interested to see what happens with Grant,I may have read it wrong but Jamaica have 7 games between now and end of March. Probably explains leaving him out yesterday


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Power to people on Monday, January 17, 2022, 12:49:21
Really interested to see what happens with Grant,I may have read it wrong but Jamaica have 7 games between now and end of March. Probably explains leaving him out yesterday

Its a shame he will play more for his country than his club, I'm sure he would still do a decent job for a team at this level, but if its true about his international commitments then you can understand other clubs being weary


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: RobertT on Monday, January 17, 2022, 13:30:22
Yep, the North American region World Cup Qualifiers are stacked Feb/Mar.  I know the MLS starts end of Feb, not sure about the other Countries, but that's Canda and USA covered, so I assume it has been scheduled to avoid impact on the leagues in region.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Monday, January 17, 2022, 14:01:40
Thank god for that, people can stop banging on about him now.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Crackity Jones on Monday, January 17, 2022, 14:08:32
Thank god for that, people can stop banging on about him now.
Yeah. Bloody fans talking about a member of our squad.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Monday, January 17, 2022, 14:15:47
Yeah. Bloody fans talking about a member of our squad.
I said banging on tbf. If i had said talking i'd agree with you but i didn't. I think it's shit how every time we win we don't hear a peep out of the ones who are so vocal about him when we lose. That's the banging on i am on about


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Crackity Jones on Monday, January 17, 2022, 14:33:17
I guess I am not aware that people are banging on about him. Sure, there are calls for him to be played after we have lost - and we generally lose because someone in a position he could cover has a shit game or run of games, but isn't that reasonable?

 And to be honest, I am only going by what I read on this forum. Living out of town, I don't know loads of STFC fans so this forum is my main conversation point.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Monday, January 17, 2022, 14:35:21
I guess I am not aware that people are banging on about him. Sure, there are calls for him to be played after we have lost - and we generally lose because someone in a position he could cover has a shit game or run of games, but isn't that reasonable?

 And to be honest, I am only going by what I read on this forum. Living out of town, I don't know loads of STFC fans so this forum is my main conversation point.
Ah that is fair then. 2pm saturday was a prime example on twitter, i personally think the calls are probably unreasonable now, it's been clear for months he will not be getting any game time so it's not worth playing him.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, January 17, 2022, 14:40:31
Its a shame he will play more for his country than his club, I'm sure he would still do a decent job for a team at this level, but if its true about his international commitments then you can understand other clubs being weary

Its a peculiar one with the international call up potentially being the death of his club career.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: donkey on Monday, January 17, 2022, 15:18:45
If he wants it, I'd get him coaching. He's got a huge amount to offer.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Monday, January 17, 2022, 16:15:21
I don't think he would coach what Garner would want him to coach.

I don't think that Garner will play him - unless there is an emergency and noone else.

He did his job by being here at the beginning of the season and bringing the fans onboard with the new administration.

If he can't get a team in the window, I suspect he'll continue with the pay packet until the end of the season and drift off elsewhere.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Monday, January 17, 2022, 16:22:49
See we have Westbury Utd in the Wiltshire Premier Shield tomorrow night. Reckon some of the subs/youngsters will get some game time?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nemo on Monday, January 17, 2022, 16:28:04
See we have Westbury Utd in the Wiltshire Premier Shield tomorrow night. Reckon some of the subs/youngsters will get some game time?

All youngsters I'd have thought, maybe plus Idem, Dabre, Parsons and Aguilar


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, January 20, 2022, 17:20:18
gladders extends contract


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Thursday, January 20, 2022, 17:25:46
Lovely stuff


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: tans on Thursday, January 20, 2022, 17:28:49
Good news.

Awaiting to see the facebook meltdown


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, January 20, 2022, 17:36:15
Excellent.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Crackity Jones on Thursday, January 20, 2022, 17:55:37
Good news on Gladwin's contract extension.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: singingiiiffy on Thursday, January 20, 2022, 18:58:17
yes and no imo, im really not sure it is THAT good news. with one eye on league 1 and also the fact that he has only played a handful of good games. a decent enough squad player might be fair


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Crackity Jones on Thursday, January 20, 2022, 19:07:57
In my opinion, while some games can seem to pass Gladwin by, he has the ability to change a game with his vision for a pass, ability to go past players or scoring goals. Be it as a starter or from the bench, he warrants a place in the squad.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: molepar on Thursday, January 20, 2022, 19:33:41
Good for cohesion too and convincing other players to stay. He offers a goal threat and creativity which can win games at the drop of a hat. I wouldn’t start him every week but he offers a lot and always worth having in the squad.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Thursday, January 20, 2022, 22:56:57
He’s a luxury but capable of making a huge impact on games.
Definitely worth keeping but wouldn’t break the bank for him (which I’m not saying we have obviously)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, January 21, 2022, 10:05:03
He’s a luxury but capable of making a huge impact on games.
Definitely worth keeping but wouldn’t break the bank for him (which I’m not saying we have obviously)
Absolutely this.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: fuzzy on Friday, January 21, 2022, 10:10:51
I know someone who compares Galdwin to Hoddle in the way that both could look very lazy but, when the circumstances were right, could waltz past the opposition and land a 50 yard cross field pass on a sixpence or score proper fizzers from outside the box.



Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: THE FLASH on Friday, January 21, 2022, 10:14:37
Absolutely this.

Seconded


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Crackity Jones on Friday, January 21, 2022, 10:54:11
I know someone who compares Galdwin to Hoddle in the way that both could look very lazy but, when the circumstances were right, could waltz past the opposition and land a 50 yard cross field pass on a sixpence or score proper fizzers from outside the box. That's a hell of a stretch but i can kind of see where they are coming from




Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, January 21, 2022, 11:21:12
All depends on where he is played and how the opposition line up, hopefully Garner has learnt where and when to play him now.

Like on Saturday where he had acres of space and had no really defensive responsibilities then he can dictate a game with his passing range. When he’s played as essentially a second centre midfielder against a loaded opposition midfield and had to run/defend which has happened too often this season he’s looked miles off the pace and that’s being polite. 


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: fuzzy on Friday, January 21, 2022, 11:25:31
That's a hell of a stretch but i can kind of see where they are coming from
Not saying he is (or will be) as good as Saint Glenn but, he is the same style of player with the attributes of a lower tier Hoddle.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Processed Beats on Sunday, January 23, 2022, 12:48:49
Simpson recalled. We’re screwed.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: tans on Sunday, January 23, 2022, 12:49:55
Were fucked now. No striker at all.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Hunk on Sunday, January 23, 2022, 12:51:45
Simpson recalled. We’re screwed.

Oh for fuck sake. What’s the point in calling them season long loans when they are clearly not? They are six month loans with a view to renew or otherwise


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: blinkpip on Sunday, January 23, 2022, 12:53:11
Next season we need to start having our own players than this shitty loan situation we find ourselves in every January. Such a ball ache.


Title: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Sunday, January 23, 2022, 12:54:10
I assume this is what Duke was worried about the other day

live by the loan. die by the loan.

isn't he out of contract with Ipswich come end of season. perhaps they are trying to cash in


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: JBZ on Sunday, January 23, 2022, 12:54:27
Disappointing news


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Gnasher on Sunday, January 23, 2022, 12:55:14
This transfer window has not been kind to us at all. I guess we may have to consolidate and have another go next season, when the embongo is (hopefully) lifted.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Sunday, January 23, 2022, 12:55:20
Brilliant.

I bet if he’d been shite they’d have happily left him here and refused to take him back.

I know it’s bloody difficult but about time we tried to move away from the loan market. Even the season long loans are short term.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Super Hans on Sunday, January 23, 2022, 12:55:42
Christ.

Hope they saw this coming. Another season where the squad will look very different for the second half of it.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Sunday, January 23, 2022, 12:56:01
I wonder if Ipswich have received a bid


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, January 23, 2022, 12:56:38
Chorley hardly seems surprised so I’m presuming they’ve someone in the pipeline.

No doubt he’ll be loaned out higher up the food chain. It’s about time clubs called time on the number of loans they take on - they cause more trouble than they’re worth.

Saying that, big JOB seems an upgrade on Crutchlow so hope AN Other is an upgrade on Tyrese.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Sunday, January 23, 2022, 12:58:01
Anyone can score goals in our team, it’s fine…

Yes. Anybody who plays every single game up front for a team as good as ours is going to score some goals. So well done there.

It's important to provide context. We average more possession than any other team by a distance. We've created the 4th highest amount of big chances in the league. We average 14 shots per game which puts us in the top 3. We sit 6th overall on XG.

Simpson's minutes per goal ratio doesn't even put him in the top 20 players in the division.

We can do better.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Sunday, January 23, 2022, 12:59:38
Anyone can score goals in our team, it’s fine…


Great, I'll get my boots. By the way when did the phrase 'big chances' become a thing?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Sunday, January 23, 2022, 13:00:05
Great, I'll get my boots. By the way when did the phrase 'big chances' become a thing?

No idea, ask the author….


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Pericardinho on Sunday, January 23, 2022, 13:03:24
The state of these comments. It's Tyreece Simpson not Eoin Doyle. We're going to be fine.

Unless you think we won't bring anybody in. In which case yes we would be in trouble. I'm giving the benefit of the doubt to Chorley and Garner that they both know what they're doing.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: JoeMezz on Sunday, January 23, 2022, 13:07:29
Presume they've known this may be coming. Agreed we can do better, but it is a loss for now... as for the loan system  :smugfu:


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Riddick on Sunday, January 23, 2022, 13:09:00
So Garner referenced being close on a couple, and looking for a couple more after that.

What are we expecting?

Our only defensive cover is Baudry, so probably another CB.
No cover for wing backs other than Odimayo right side maybe. So hopefully one of those, preferably to replace Iandolo.
Then 2 forwards, a new number 9/target man, and another option because Parsons/Mitchell-Lawson have not got enough to influence games.



Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, January 23, 2022, 13:11:14
I’d imagine Ipswich told us a while ago they’d be recalling him - it can’t be based on yesterday’s performance.

We then probably asked Ipswich is he could play one last game yesterday as his replacement wouldn’t be available for us until this week.

I very much doubt this has come as a huge surprise to the club.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: theakston2k on Sunday, January 23, 2022, 13:11:36
I know it’s largely been out of our control but it’s starting to feel like we’ve made a bit of a mess of this transfer window. Yesterday we had no striker or centre back on the bench and now we have no striker at all, we also have no back up full backs. I know Garner has said we will bring in a couple this week but even then we are going to be hard pushed not to come out of this window weaker than we were before it. It’s all very last minute again which is frustrating.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Pericardinho on Sunday, January 23, 2022, 13:14:15
I know it’s largely been out of our control but it’s starting to feel like we’ve made a bit of a mess of this transfer window. Yesterday we had no striker or centre back on the bench and now we have no striker, we also have no back up full backs. I know Garner has said we will bring in a couple this week but even then we are going to be hard pushed not to come out of this window weaker than we were before it. It’s all very last minute again which is frustrating.

I suspect we could've signed 4 or 5 by now, but they wouldn't have been the ones we wanted. Best to be patient and get our #1 targets. They said we haven't lost out on anybody yet, which is encouraging to hear (if true!)



Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Sunday, January 23, 2022, 13:15:52
So Garner referenced being close on a couple, and looking for a couple more after that.

What are we expecting?

Our only defensive cover is Baudry, so probably another CB.
No cover for wing backs other than Odimayo right side maybe. So hopefully one of those, preferably to replace Iandolo.
Then 2 forwards, a new number 9/target man, and another option because Parsons/Mitchell-Lawson have not got enough to influence games.



I expect another full back and another wide forward type player.

What we need is a different matter.

Amazed Grant is still here. He’s basically retired at this point.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: JoeMezz on Sunday, January 23, 2022, 13:20:06
I imagine we'll get 4 players in: a wing back, a midfield player, a winger/forward player and a new number 9. Could be an exciting week


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: theakston2k on Sunday, January 23, 2022, 13:20:42
I suspect we could've signed 4 or 5 by now, but they wouldn't have been the ones we wanted. Best to be patient and get our #1 targets. They said we haven't lost out on anybody yet, which is encouraging to hear (if true!)


That’s all well and good but we’ve now put massive pressure on ourselves going into the last week of the window. Whoever comes in will have to hit the ground running, there’s no time to bed in off the bench or anything. Somehow we’re now in a position where our season and the general mood of the fans is dependent on the last week of the January transfer window.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, January 23, 2022, 13:22:31
Big JOB has settled in quickly - apart from his first 45 mins at Mansfield.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Sunday, January 23, 2022, 13:23:42
That’s all well and good but we’ve now put massive pressure on ourselves going into the last week of the window. Whoever comes in will have to hit the ground running, there’s no time to bed in off the bench or anything. Somehow we’re now in a position where our season and the general mood of the fans is dependent on the last week of the January transfer window.

Unless they’re already training with us…


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: theakston2k on Sunday, January 23, 2022, 13:26:18
Unless they’re already training with us…
There’s enough ITK’s on here to have had less than subtle hints about that. I just think we’ve put massive pressure on ourselves now as we were short before the window opened and we now need to sign 2 starter in a week just to be on a par yet alone strengthening.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, January 23, 2022, 13:28:57
I imagine we'll get 4 players in: a wing back, a midfield player, a winger/forward player and a new number 9. Could be an exciting week
Or a hugely disappointing week.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Sunday, January 23, 2022, 13:34:03
Or a hugely disappointing week.

Probably this one…

The closer we get to the window slamming shut the more desperate we will get.
Hopefully things are already in place but if they aren’t I can’t see it this turning out well.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, January 23, 2022, 13:39:40
The closer we get to the window slamming shut the more desperate we will get.
Hopefully things are already in place but if they aren’t I can’t see it this turning out well.
Absolutely this, Elliot Benyon anyone?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: RobertT on Sunday, January 23, 2022, 14:56:07
There’s enough ITK’s on here to have had less than subtle hints about that. I just think we’ve put massive pressure on ourselves now as we were short before the window opened and we now need to sign 2 starter in a week just to be on a par yet alone strengthening.

It's probably worth remembering the context of this season - the fact we are in the hunt has shifted expectations but the background hasn't changed that much.  We are still in a position where we rely on the charity of others (loans) or players willing to have a season on less than stellar wages for footballers.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: theakston2k on Sunday, January 23, 2022, 15:06:44
It's probably worth remembering the context of this season - the fact we are in the hunt has shifted expectations but the background hasn't changed that much.  We are still in a position where we rely on the charity of others (loans) or players willing to have a season on less than stellar wages for footballers.
To an extent I agree but the fact we are in the hunt combined with the financial windfall’s we have had I think we’d be missing a trick a bit. We can’t come out of this transfer weaker than we were before it IMO as it will further erode some of the banked goodwill as it will feel like we’ve just given up or sacrificed the season.

At this level there’s no guarantee of assembling a competitive squad or it clicking from one season to the next so when you do have one you need to make it count.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Sunday, January 23, 2022, 15:39:55
I agree, no two seasons are the same and you don't know when the next chance will come. it's a massive opportunity

However the way the club is being run is fairly ruthless in terms of cost control/revenue. From the man city ticket prices all the way to trying to get less than 200 fans to waive a £150 refund from last season.

I am not saying that is not by necessity though. Financial stability is the #1 priority.

Nothing screams Clem will cover budget above the plan


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Posh Red on Sunday, January 23, 2022, 15:57:36
We needed 2 or 3 players to push on and challenge for a top 3 place at the end of the season.

Having lost 3 players (don’t include Gilbert as he hardly played) and replaced only one, we need 4 or 5 who fit in well.

The worry in leaving it late is if our primary targets don’t come we don’t have much time to get alternatives in.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Sunday, January 23, 2022, 16:01:05
Get your socks ready then.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Sunday, January 23, 2022, 16:06:03
Names


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Sunday, January 23, 2022, 16:12:32
Quote from: Legends-Lounge
Get your socks ready then.

rarely leave home without them


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Sunday, January 23, 2022, 16:22:29
Names

Triallist A and Triallist B knowing where we are right now.
Hopefully we’ve been doing some decent ground work on getting at least 2 decent loan players in.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Sunday, January 23, 2022, 16:30:02
I’d imagine Ipswich told us a while ago they’d be recalling him - it can’t be based on yesterday’s performance.

We then probably asked Ipswich is he could play one last game yesterday as his replacement wouldn’t be available for us until this week.

I very much doubt this has come as a huge surprise to the club.

Like Crithlow this was a surprise I believe.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: singingiiiffy on Sunday, January 23, 2022, 16:45:20
We have done exceptionally well with our loans fitting into this last minute squad. I'm quite relaxed about it all. the loans have done well and we have had that benefit.

You need to remember that we are very high in the table. We have the chance to give players an opportunity for success and a good footballing team. If we 4th bottom and had everyone recalled I would indeed be shitting it. we are in a good position to get good players.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: theakston2k on Sunday, January 23, 2022, 16:52:07
Like Crithlow this was a surprise I believe.
That’s a major concern then as would suggest neither of the players we have lined up are a direct replacement for Simpson so a lot to do this week.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Sunday, January 23, 2022, 19:06:00
Certainly a lot of work to be done this week but I am sure the club based on what we have done so far. I do think though that fans need to remember the clubs aims this season are still the same and anything more is a bonus. Amazes me how many think we should just pay off the efl loan and get on with it to be honest


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, January 25, 2022, 12:43:35
I hear KKH has picked up an injury playing for Villa U-23's, so I assume that is him not being loaned out


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Friday, January 28, 2022, 07:41:39
Is somebody able to update this? Seem to be a missing a few on the front page & a few others have left.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Samdy Gray on Friday, January 28, 2022, 08:26:28
It's Costanza's thing, but he appears to be on a TEF break since last year.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nemo on Friday, January 28, 2022, 09:02:27
This is the updated version I believe, perhaps a mod can lob it into the first post.


THE CURRENT SQUAD

1. Jojo Wollacott (GK - 2022)
2. Akin Odimayo (DRC - 2022)  
3. Ellis Iandolo (D/WBL/AML - Unknown, beyond 2022)
4. Dion Conroy (c) (DC - 2022)
6. Mathieu Baudry (DC - 2022)  
7. Ben Gladwin (AMRLC - Unknown, beyond 2022)
8. Jordan Lyden (DM - 2022)
9. Josh Davison (ST - Loan)
10. Jack Payne (AMRLC - 2022)  
11. Harry McKirdy (AMRLC - Unknown, beyond 2022)
12. Lewis Ward (GK - Unknown, beyond 2022)
13. Steve Mildenhall (GK - Coaching contract)
15. Manny Idem (GK - Unknown)
16. Jake O'Brien (DC - Loan)
17. Jayden Mitchell-Lawson (AMRLC,FC - 2022)
20. Jonny Williams (AMLC, 2022)
24. Rob Hunt (D/WBRL - 2022)
25. Louis Reed (MC - 2022)
26. Ryan East (DM - 2022)
28. Ricky Aguilar (MF - 2022)
29. Harry Parsons (ST - 2023)
30. Mo Dabre (MF - 2022)
31. Donny Gordon (U18)
32. George Cowmeadow (U18)
33. Levi Francis (U18)
34. Harrison Minturn (U18, On loan at Chippenham)
42. Anthony Grant (DM - 2022)

NOTE:
Positions taken from Sortitoutsi
There may be some errors but, sure, you go and spend a couple of minutes finding them.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, January 28, 2022, 09:12:56
The unknowns are all 2023 I believe. I've been told due to the umbungo we can only offer 1 year extensions.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Friday, January 28, 2022, 12:03:48
This is the updated version I believe, perhaps a mod can lob it into the first post.


THE CURRENT SQUAD

1. Jojo Wollacott (GK - 2022)
2. Akin Odimayo (DRC - 2022) 
3. Ellis Iandolo (D/WBL/AML - Unknown, beyond 2022)
4. Dion Conroy (c) (DC - 2022)
6. Mathieu Baudry (DC - 2022) 
7. Ben Gladwin (AMRLC - Unknown, beyond 2022)
8. Jordan Lyden (DM - 2022)
9. Josh Davison (ST - Loan)
10. Jack Payne (AMRLC - 2022)   
11. Harry McKirdy (AMRLC - Unknown, beyond 2022)
12. Lewis Ward (GK - Unknown, beyond 2022)
13. Steve Mildenhall (GK - Coaching contract)
15. Manny Idem (GK - Unknown)
16. Jake O'Brien (DC - Loan)
17. Jayden Mitchell-Lawson (AMRLC,FC - 2022)
20. Jonny Williams (AMLC, 2022)
24. Rob Hunt (D/WBRL - 2022)
25. Louis Reed (MC - 2022)
26. Ryan East (DM - 2022)
28. Ricky Aguilar (MF - 2022)
29. Harry Parsons (ST - 2023)
30. Mo Dabre (MF - 2022)
31. Donny Gordon (U18)
32. George Cowmeadow (U18)
33. Levi Francis (U18)
34. Harrison Minturn (U18, On loan at Chippenham)
42. Anthony Grant (DM - 2022)

NOTE:
Positions taken from Sortitoutsi
There may be some errors but, sure, you go and spend a couple of minutes finding them.

Done


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Friday, January 28, 2022, 13:18:33
Done
Top man.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nemo on Friday, January 28, 2022, 14:21:57
Well, that took four and a half hours to be out of date as Grant officially departs :D


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, January 28, 2022, 14:24:45
Well, that took four and a half hours to be out of date as Grant officially departs :D

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FKMimvaXEAAcueX?format=jpg&name=large)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, January 28, 2022, 15:42:50
Expected but a shame nonetheless.

Besides the obvious squad deficiencies that exist currently the absence of someone like him in the squad with experience and leadership qualities will probably play a massive part on whether we manage to sustain a promotion challenge when the pressure cranks up. With him gone there is no leader in leader in the squad, no one that is vocal on the pitch and has that experience to manage a lead.

It’s doubly a shame as we are still crying out for a captain with some of the qualities of Grant but it seems the captains armband is more of a token gesture here, it seemingly doesn’t come with a leadership or organisational role on the pitch.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Friday, January 28, 2022, 16:06:32
Expected but a shame nonetheless.

Besides the obvious squad deficiencies that exist currently the absence of someone like him in the squad with experience and leadership qualities will probably play a massive part on whether we manage to sustain a promotion challenge when the pressure cranks up. With him gone there is no leader in leader in the squad, no one that is vocal on the pitch and has that experience to manage a lead.

It’s doubly a shame as we are still crying out for a captain with some of the qualities of Grant but it seems the captains armband is more of a token gesture here, it seemingly doesn’t come with a leadership or organisational role on the pitch.

Don’t think Garner has any interest in the sort of player you describe / Grant is.

Unless someone can tell me differently I’ll assume the reason for Grant not being included was because of his style of player rather than a personal clash between him and Garner. No doubt all the Jamaica travelling and quarantining didn’t help but don’t think he would have played even without all of that.

I’d be truly amazed if freeing up Grants wages meant we went out and signed another ‘Grant’ type and started using him.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, January 28, 2022, 16:10:01
Don’t think Garner has any interest in the sort of player you describe / Grant is.

I don’t disagree but the absence of a ‘Grant type’ could well be the difference between promotion and not if we are still in the hunt come the end of the season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Samdy Gray on Friday, January 28, 2022, 17:12:17
Maybe, but that's why Garner's the manager and you're not.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Friday, January 28, 2022, 17:16:23
A grant type was certainly needed second half v Rovers. We have Lyden, but he has been benched last 2.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, January 28, 2022, 17:39:22
Maybe, but that's why Garner's the manager and you're not.
Or alternatively Garner prioritises his ‘style’ over maximising the chances of a result at times. Ultimately time will tell but no one can deny we need more leadership on the pitch at times.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Crackity Jones on Saturday, January 29, 2022, 13:56:26
The General confirmed at Scunthorpe. Keeps the 42 shirt


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, January 29, 2022, 14:11:02
The General confirmed at Scunthorpe. Keeps the 42 shirt
Good luck to him, making his debut against an ex club of his and also he can do us some help if they beat Vale today.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: adje on Sunday, January 30, 2022, 16:33:06
So should the new players start on Tuesday and,if so,how would you go?
                             JoJo
       O'Brien.        Cooper.        Odimayo
Barry.                    Lyden                 Iandolo
               Reed.                 Williams
                 Davison.        McKirdy


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, January 30, 2022, 16:35:16
No Conroy....controversial😀 Now you need a new captain!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: adje on Sunday, January 30, 2022, 16:36:19
No Conroy....controversial😀
Probably play and Odimayo will miss out but I was impressed with AK yesterday.
Williams captain,no problem!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Crackity Jones on Sunday, January 30, 2022, 16:41:49
Tuesday will be too soon for Barry and Cooper. No changes for me to the starting 11.  Barry and Cooper on bench


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, January 30, 2022, 16:42:35
Probably play and Odimayo will miss out but I was impressed with AK yesterday.
Williams captain,no problem!

Let's hope whoever plays are up or it as we don't have a great record against Crawley and need to start winning games at home if we have aspirations of going up this season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, January 30, 2022, 16:43:50
Tuesday will be too soon for Barry and Cooper. No changes for me to the starting 11.  Barry and Cooper on bench

What's the latest on Payne is he nearly ready to play again.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Crackity Jones on Sunday, January 30, 2022, 16:51:21
Good question on Payne.  We have missed him.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, January 30, 2022, 16:59:39
Tuesday will be too soon for Barry and Cooper. No changes for me to the starting 11.  Barry and Cooper on bench
Both will start, I reckon.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Sunday, January 30, 2022, 17:09:41
What's the latest on Payne is he nearly ready to play again.

Was training before the Colchester game yesterday.
Heard 3 to 4 weeks until fully match fit. Missed him massively.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Sunday, January 30, 2022, 17:12:11
Probably play and Odimayo will miss out but I was impressed with AK yesterday.
Williams captain,no problem!

Equally would not rule out AK on the right if needed.
Without doubt our squad is considerably light.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: swindonmaniac on Sunday, January 30, 2022, 17:27:41
Who the hell is AK ???


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, January 30, 2022, 17:38:19
Who the hell is AK ???
Thats Akin Odimoyos nickname at the club.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Broadbents Tackle on Sunday, January 30, 2022, 17:45:37
Missing a trick not giving him no. 47 then.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Sunday, January 30, 2022, 19:46:51
Missing a trick not giving him no. 47 then.

Returning your "Very good" to me the other. Relatively quick too. Straight out of my book. Nice!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Sunday, January 30, 2022, 20:33:33
Quote from: Broadbents Tackle
Missing a trick not giving him no. 47 then.

nice


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Sunday, January 30, 2022, 20:34:39
hoping Payne's injury is putting off any suitors, because surely he and Reed must have impressed some higher teams this season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: tans on Sunday, January 30, 2022, 20:37:01
 Garner has said no one is leaving on a permanent deal according to the adver


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Sunday, January 30, 2022, 20:57:34
Thats Akin Odimoyos nickname at the club.

😂🙃 _like our defending on that corner that one.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Sunday, January 30, 2022, 20:58:05
Quote from: tans
 Garner has said no one is leaving on a permanent deal according to the adver

good to know


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: swindonmaniac on Sunday, January 30, 2022, 21:33:30
Thats Akin Odimoyos nickname at the club.
Ahh. Thanks JJ.  Would have thought something like Oddy would have been more appropriate.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, February 11, 2022, 16:04:44
Idem gone to Brentwood Town on loan for a month.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Quagmire on Friday, February 11, 2022, 16:32:10
Idem gone to Brentwood Town on loan for a month.

He won’t ever make an appearance for us.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Friday, February 11, 2022, 16:54:43
He won’t ever make an appearance for us.
I'd forgotten who he was.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Quagmire on Friday, February 11, 2022, 16:59:25
I'd forgotten who he was.

Easily done.
He looked useless in the Westbury game.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: fuzzy on Friday, February 11, 2022, 19:39:45
Easily done.
He looked useless in the Westbury game.

A shit hot keeper can look like a clown behind a woeful defence though.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Posh Red on Friday, February 11, 2022, 20:08:06
A shit hot keeper can look like a clown behind a woeful defence though.

That’s what Kovar said. :D


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, February 14, 2022, 12:30:04
McKirdy has won the PFA fans player of the month for league 2 in January.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Monday, February 14, 2022, 12:41:19
McKirdy has won the PFA fans player of the month for league 2 in January.
That's him buggered for the rest of the month then!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, February 16, 2022, 17:38:55
Minturn loan at Chippenham extended until end of season


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Saturday, February 19, 2022, 17:41:54
Thinking longer term:
1. I would like to sign McKirdy to a 3 year deal
2. I would like to sign O'Brien. I'd pay decent money for him!
3. I would like to take a punt on Davison at the end of the year. He clearly offers something.
4. I'd like to sign Simpson and try and develop him.
5. I would extend Aguiar's contract. I think he has promise.
6. I'd like to sign Tomlinson.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, February 19, 2022, 17:46:13
McKirdy has signed a new contract. The club hasn’t said how long.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Berniman on Sunday, February 20, 2022, 16:11:38
McKirdy has signed a new contract. The club hasn’t said how long.

I think they can only offer 1 year deals under the rules of the umbongo


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Sunday, February 20, 2022, 16:48:48
I think they can only offer 1 year deals under the rules of the umbongo
I'd still like to sign him (and O'Brien) for 3 years!  ;)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: cheltred69 on Sunday, February 20, 2022, 18:30:59
Much as I’d like it,I’d be shocked if Palace would offload O’Brien for anything we could afford. They only signed him 12 months ago and I would imagine that coming here is part of a development journey that could lead towards their first team squad. Surely they’d only sell if they were convinced he’d never make it.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Sunday, February 20, 2022, 18:51:33
Much as I’d like it,I’d be shocked if Palace would offload O’Brien for anything we could afford. They only signed him 12 months ago and I would imagine that coming here is part of a development journey that could lead towards their first team squad. Surely they’d only sell if they were convinced he’d never make it.

Depends on many factors some of which you’ve outlined. An eye watering sell on clause with a decent upfront chunk might do it.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Boy About Town on Sunday, February 20, 2022, 19:56:00
Depends on many factors some of which you’ve outlined. An eye watering sell on clause with a decent upfront chunk might do it.

Surely a buy back clause also?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, February 20, 2022, 19:58:19
Or maybe another season long loan at a higher level


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 07:17:18
Are any of our present loanees likely to be available to sign permanently in the summer? I realise that will depend on what league we are in.

O’Brien - no chance Palace would sell, maybe another loan if we go up
Tomlinson - possibility, chance that us and Posh will be in the same league
Cooper - possible but not likely.
Davison - the most likely to be available
Barry - zero chance. Again, maybe another loan if we go up


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 18:08:06
Garner said last night pre game that Levi Francis and another youngster whos name I don't remember have both gone on loan to Highworth Town for a month to experience mens football rather than just U18 stuff.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: dphunt88 on Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 18:15:39
Garner said last night pre game that Levi Francis and another youngster whos name I don't remember have both gone on loan to Highworth Town for a month to experience mens football rather than just U18 stuff.

https://southern-football-league.co.uk/News/130989/Swindon-Pair-Head-to-Highworth

Two of the 2nd year scholars, Callum Winchcombe (centre-back) and Levi Francis (midfielder) both on "work experience" at Highworth Town FC. Good luck to them both.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 18:19:50
Cheers I couldnt quite hear who else he said, good for them to get game time at a better level than U18s.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, February 24, 2022, 10:07:47
Are any of our present loanees likely to be available to sign permanently in the summer? I realise that will depend on what league we are in.

O’Brien - no chance Palace would sell, maybe another loan if we go up
Tomlinson - possibility, chance that us and Posh will be in the same league
Cooper - possible but not likely.
Davison - the most likely to be available
Barry - zero chance. Again, maybe another loan if we go up

I think Davison is out of contract at Charlton come the end of the season and I don't think they are looking to keep him based on conversations with Charlton fans. From what I have seen so far I think he'd be a great addition. Strong, good in the air and improving game by game. It will be interesting to see what happens with Tyrese Simpson in the summer as well.

The other loanees I think we'll struggle to make permanently, but you never know with Ben Chorley around what is possible!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, February 24, 2022, 10:31:46
I think Davison is out of contract at Charlton come the end of the season and I don't think they are looking to keep him based on conversations with Charlton fans. From what I have seen so far I think he'd be a great addition. Strong, good in the air and improving game by game. It will be interesting to see what happens with Tyrese Simpson in the summer as well.

The other loanees I think we'll struggle to make permanently, but you never know with Ben Chorley around what is possible!

I suppose the question with Davison (and I had a quick look last night but could see nowt) is as with Simpson whilst his contract may be up are their options which can be exercised by Charlton?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, February 24, 2022, 10:47:35
I suppose the question with Davison (and I had a quick look last night but could see nowt) is as with Simpson whilst his contract may be up are their options which can be exercised by Charlton?

Indeed. Hopefully perhaps we could sweeten the deal with a nominal fee and a reasonable sell on. Depends how accommodating both Ipswich and Charlton will be.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, February 24, 2022, 10:51:44
I understand Davison is OOC in the Summer and would be a free, Simpson would ask for a fee and if no fee agreed would be a tribunal which is a bit of a lottery.

At least Simpson is no longer in the shop window as he was when with us which could work in our favour.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Thursday, February 24, 2022, 18:42:02
Davison is in the same boat as Simpson and has an option


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, February 25, 2022, 10:13:04
Mo Dabre joins Harrison Minturn at Chippenham on loan for an initial month on loan.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Quagmire on Friday, March 4, 2022, 18:06:10
Idem joins Melksham on loan.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, March 4, 2022, 18:11:45
Mo Dabre joins Harrison Minturn at Chippenham on loan for an initial month on loan.

Minturn scored last weekend didn't he?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Posh Red on Friday, March 4, 2022, 20:33:24
Idem joins Melksham on loan.

Was he recalled from Brentwood, or did his loan expire?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Friday, March 4, 2022, 22:01:36
Idem if he plays well or not, I'm sure it won't matter. Purely development minutes.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, March 5, 2022, 10:18:06
Minturn scored last weekend didn't he?
He did, apparently playing quite well there too from what I hear.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: fuzzy on Monday, March 7, 2022, 09:42:53
Official Twitter seems to indicate Cooper and Tomlinson back to their clubs for injury recovery


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Monday, March 7, 2022, 09:45:25
Seems like every time we find a settled side it’s gets broken up right away


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, March 7, 2022, 09:54:41
We've been quite fortunate/managed injuries this season but we're finally getting our injury crisis. From what I saw on Twitter this morning Cooper is out for the season and Tomlinson for weeks but both back to their clubs for rehabilitation? I am not sure if it's been announced about the termination of loans yet has it? I wonder if we'll now push to sign Egbo on a short term deal?

Never a good time to have an injury 'crisis' but seems really harsh for the business end of the season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Monday, March 7, 2022, 10:19:31
I am not sure if it's been announced about the termination of loans yet has it?

No, but the official tweet did make it sound like they had

"
We would like to wish both @BrandCooper and @joe3tomlinson the very best of luck for their respective recoveries.

Thank you for your efforts during your time with us, and we know you will both bounce back stronger 💪💪

#STFC 🔴⚪️"


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Monday, March 7, 2022, 10:20:24
Tomlinson has said he will be back


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Monday, March 7, 2022, 10:38:22
Tomlinson has said he will be back

No, that was Arnie...

(That's good news for the run in.)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, March 10, 2022, 18:27:33
Minturn recalled from Chippenham


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, March 10, 2022, 18:31:52
Quote from: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey
Minturn recalled from Chippenham

interesting...

another injury?


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Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, March 10, 2022, 18:54:38
Surprised Dabre hasn’t been recalled too.


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Post by: tans on Thursday, March 10, 2022, 20:48:41
Surprised Dabre hasn’t been recalled too.

He has to be on loan for 28 days before he can be recalled


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Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Thursday, March 10, 2022, 22:00:52
I went to Braintree v Chippenham last week and Minturn looked bloody good. Big difference between National South and L2 of course. Ben Chorley was also there though and evidently agrees with me. Interesting move...


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Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, March 11, 2022, 09:38:11
I went to Braintree v Chippenham last week and Minturn looked bloody good. Big difference between National South and L2 of course. Ben Chorley was also there though and evidently agrees with me. Interesting move...

I was impressed with Minturn in the pizza cup earlier this season. Again, difficult to tell in these kind of matches but it's great to see 'one of our own' potentially looking to come through the ranks. 


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Post by: Posh Red on Friday, March 11, 2022, 12:44:52
I was impressed with Minturn in the pizza cup earlier this season. Again, difficult to tell in these kind of matches but it's great to see 'one of our own' potentially looking to come through the ranks. 

When the season is pretty much done (which I think may be sooner than we’d like) it would be good to play a few of these youngsters to see where they are before next season.


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Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, March 11, 2022, 13:49:24
When the season is pretty much done (which I think may be sooner than we’d like) it would be good to play a few of these youngsters to see where they are before next season.

That's one of the few advantages of when the season Peters out you can give the yoof a chance. It would be good for sure if we can give Minturn, Dabre and Cowmeadow et al a couple of games to see just what we can expect from them. When you see the calibre of player that Exeter produce (Jay and Collins are home grown and were excellent on Tuesday) it really leaves you feeling green with envy that we are unable to produce anything like that - consciously aware that the catchment area of Swindon v Exeter is a drawback.


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Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, March 11, 2022, 13:51:46
Tbf, we have produced a few decent youngsters - Twine and Bogle recently. The problem is, we were always eager to sell them at the first sniff of talent.


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Post by: Legends-Lounge on Friday, March 11, 2022, 19:13:34
Tbf, we have produced a few decent youngsters - Twine and Bogle recently. The problem is, we were always eager to sell them at the first sniff of talent.

Well Pee Lower was.


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Post by: JoeMezz on Friday, March 11, 2022, 19:46:31
Tbf, we have produced a few decent youngsters - Twine and Bogle recently. The problem is, we were always eager to sell them at the first sniff of talent.

Add players we've sold too - Ifil being one and another lad went to Chelsea I think?


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Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Friday, March 11, 2022, 19:56:06
I vaguely remember selling a young player to Fulham several years ago but no idea what happwnwd to his career


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Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, March 15, 2022, 12:00:15
JOB called up by Ireland U-23 v Sweden on 29 March.


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Post by: Private Fraser on Tuesday, March 29, 2022, 18:50:03
Ghana qualify for World Cup finals.


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Post by: river monster on Tuesday, March 29, 2022, 19:58:10
Williams on for Wales last 20


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Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, April 1, 2022, 11:25:23
Minturn and Cowmeadow both sign their first professional contracts with the club.


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Post by: horlock07 on Friday, April 1, 2022, 11:36:16
Minturn and Cowmeadow both sign their first professional contracts with the club.

I think Minturn was the other day wasn't it.

Did feel a bit sorry for Cowmeadow with the announcement being made within a crop of April Fools being made from various corporate accounts popping up on Twitter!


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Post by: JoeMezz on Tuesday, April 19, 2022, 07:44:37
Was having a think about players that we own that I’d like to keep for next year and was struggling to name players who I’m desperate to keep.

McKirdy, iandolo and Reed the standouts and I think players like Odimayo, Hunt, Payne, Woolacott (who has been poor recently but good overall) are worthwhile keeping. Besides from that I’m struggling quite a lot


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Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, April 19, 2022, 07:59:10
I can't really see Reed (I suspect he'll go back up north somewhere) and Payne (not sure if I dreamt it but Charlton and Franchise were having a look in January) here next season which is a huge shame. I imagine they'll be in league 1 next season. Not sure if he'll stay but without those 2 you'd imagine Jonny Williams having much more of a first team presence. It will be interesting to see if we can get Ebgo for next season, he definitely looks an exciting prospect.

It's going to be an interesting rebuild next season but at least we will be going about it properly and Chorley definitely has the eye for good players so I'm confident we'll put something decent together.


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Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, April 19, 2022, 08:02:23
Was having a think about players that we own that I’d like to keep for next year and was struggling to name players who I’m desperate to keep.

McKirdy, iandolo and Reed the standouts and I think players like Odimayo, Hunt, Payne, Woolacott (who has been poor recently but good overall) are worthwhile keeping. Besides from that I’m struggling quite a lot

Would love to keep McKirdy, Reed, Payne, Wollacott & Williams but suspect that we'll lose at least two of them.

Next tier down ones who I'm happy to see stay would be Iandolo, Odimayo, Egbo, Ward & Hunt.

Then the younger lads who I'm happy to see develop but shouldn't be in the first XI regularly - Aguilar, Parsons, Cowmeadow, Minturn, Idem, Dabre

Happy to see the back of Conroy (just seems like the right time to part, think he'll make a career somewhere else), Baudry (age), Gladwin (under contract so will stay), East, JML & Lyden (injury record, a real shame)

Loanees wise I'm sure they'll all go back but would like to sign any of them - Davison ideally not as the first and only striker but would be a decent part of the squad.

Really don't think that's too bad a hit rate, considering the thrown together at the last minute nature of this squad. Of the two Bens, I think Chorley has proved the better hire so far.


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Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, April 19, 2022, 08:07:42
Aguiar, its Aguiar.


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Post by: DiV on Tuesday, April 19, 2022, 08:10:54
Keep McKirdy

Wouldnt lose any sleep over the rest going.

Aguiar worth keeping - see how he progresses. Has looked good in games, not so much on others. Egbo worth the gamble as well.

For all the talent Williams, Payne & Reed have they never dominate the midfield and take it to teams or stop teams getting through use. Not convinced Reed adds much but pointless safe passes. Makes Garner hard, does nothing for me…


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Post by: DiV on Tuesday, April 19, 2022, 08:13:01
Davison - would be happy to sign on as an option but wouldn’t be building a team around him being the star striker. Tomlinson would be good but think that’s hugely unlikely

Be going all out for Simpson though…


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Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, April 19, 2022, 08:21:08
According to someone on that Facebook site Wollacott had agreed a move elsewhere. Obviously every comment below was 'good, he's a shite keeper' etc etc. That place makes me laugh.


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Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, April 19, 2022, 08:34:55
Not sure if he'll stay but without those 2 you'd imagine Jonny Williams having much more of a first team presence.

I've always assumed the reason the Williams only tends to play cameo's (and in fact why he is this low in the pyramid) is that h cannot last 90 mins or play twice a week?

According to someone on that Facebook site Wollacott had agreed a move elsewhere. Obviously every comment below was 'good, he's a shite keeper' etc etc. That place makes me laugh.

He hasn't been great since he came back, albeit not sure who would take on a player who will miss a lot of next season on international duty as you don't really want that for your first choice, albeit I suppose he could earn a good deal more as a no.2 in the Championship.

The issue we are always going to have with keepers is that to play Garnerball (or in fact any manager who wants to play football) is that they need to be good with your feet and such keeprs are like rocking horse shit at this level and all liable to a fuck up (otherwise they wouldn't be at this level).


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Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, April 19, 2022, 08:38:51
I've always assumed the reason the Williams only tends to play cameo's (and in fact why he is this low in the pyramid) is that h cannot last 90 mins or play twice a week?

He hasn't been great since he came back, albeit not sure who would take on a player who will miss a lot of next season on international duty as you don't really want that for your first choice, albeit I suppose he could earn a good deal more as a no.2 in the Championship.

The issue we are always going to have with keepers is that to play Garnerball (or in fact any manager who wants to play football) is that they need to be good with your feet and such keeprs are like rocking horse shit at this level and all liable to a fuck up (otherwise they wouldn't be at this level).

I thought Vigs was good yesterday. Handling and kicking both pretty much spot on.


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Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, April 19, 2022, 08:48:04
Mckirdy will leave I think and I don't really care for any of them to be honest. None of them are anything special. I'd be speaking to Ian Hollaway and selling the long term plan to him if I was running the club. He could take us forwards as the total football philosophy, although good in theory isn't going to work unless we find a few gems to deliver it. Let's have it right league 2 is extremely poor and there are some dire sides above us in the table.


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Post by: Shrivvy Road on Tuesday, April 19, 2022, 08:52:20
I've always assumed the reason the Williams only tends to play cameo's (and in fact why he is this low in the pyramid) is that h cannot last 90 mins or play twice a week?

He hasn't been great since he came back, albeit not sure who would take on a player who will miss a lot of next season on international duty as you don't really want that for your first choice, albeit I suppose he could earn a good deal more as a no.2 in the Championship.

The issue we are always going to have with keepers is that to play Garnerball (or in fact any manager who wants to play football) is that they need to be good with your feet and such keeprs are like rocking horse shit at this level and all liable to a fuck up (otherwise they wouldn't be at this level).
I was thinking about this yesterday and i reckon over the course of a season JoJo will cost us more goals not coming for crosses than Ward would with his kicking


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Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, April 19, 2022, 09:05:47
Mckirdy will leave I think and I don't really care for any of them to be honest. None of them are anything special. I'd be speaking to Ian Hollaway and selling the long term plan to him if I was running the club. He could take us forwards as the total football philosophy, although good in theory isn't going to work unless we find a few gems to deliver it. Let's have it right league 2 is extremely poor and there are some dire sides above us in the table.

The Ian Holloway who hasn't done more than two seasons at the same club since Blackpool in 2012? There's a time when I'd have quite liked him as a manager but fairly sure he's more of a short term firefighter these days - and not a terribly successful one at that - win ratio below 33% in his last four jobs.


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Post by: Batch on Tuesday, April 19, 2022, 09:08:55
Quote from: DiV
For all the talent Williams, Payne & Reed have they never dominate the midfield and take it to teams or stop teams getting through use. Not convinced Reed adds much but pointless safe passes. Makes Garner hard, does nothing for me…

I agree we don't dominate, but those three are two ball players and Reed.

Reed is my player of the year. Not even close. He does break up play. He does pass.

But he's never going to be a prime Grant or
Jonathan Douglas.. 

it's all a bit lightweight and nice at times. Even with an improved Iandolo in there.


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Post by: adje on Tuesday, April 19, 2022, 09:10:00
Holloway has become a joke. Somewhat a parody of himself. I'd be horrified if he became involved with us at any level


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Post by: Bogus Dave on Tuesday, April 19, 2022, 09:26:37
I don’t think we should be having the debate (garner has earned a pre-season over the 46 games, regardless of how disappointing this one seems to be ending)

That said the two most successful managers in the past ten years have been mark cooper and Richie wellens, neither of whom would have been many peoples first choice at the time.


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Post by: Posh Red on Tuesday, April 19, 2022, 09:40:00
Reed is a great player with time & space, however when he gets the ball and is closed down quickly he pretty much always plays the ball backwards.

That’s what happened in the second half against Newport and we had almost no threat, we were drawn into playing aimless balls forward


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Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, April 19, 2022, 11:34:22
I like Reed, but he needs some legs and drive next to him, not two flakey players like Iandolo and Payne are in central midfield.  Neither has a decent defensive bone in their body.  Iandolo still drifts too wide and Payne chases around like a school kid.  It provides no shape or structure and leaves Reed sat looking like the only option to defenders when they get the ball.  He looked a much better player when Lyden was next to him and, dare I say it, Gladwin (Gladwin himself did not look great, but I think he offers himself more).  The spine is where I'd be working on replacements - two central defenders, two central midfielders and two forwards, proper ones.


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Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, April 19, 2022, 11:39:26
FWIW, Gab Sutton, who is a bit of a geek when it comes to lower league football tweeted that Loius Reed has the vision of a Premier League footballer. I think that's a bit extreme but he's clearly a very good footballer that perhaps is not being utilised as well as he could in Garner's setup?


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Post by: DiV on Tuesday, April 19, 2022, 11:42:30
FWIW, Gab Sutton, who is a bit of a geek when it comes to lower league football tweeted that Loius Reed has the vision of a Premier League footballer. I think that's a bit extreme but he's clearly a very good footballer that perhaps is not being utilised as well as he could in Garner's setup?

Nope.
Reed rarely moves the ball forward and starts attacks.
Sure our movement up top isn’t great but even when the runs are there he doesn’t find them (he’s not alone in that of course)


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Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, April 19, 2022, 14:15:51
Nope.
Reed rarely moves the ball forward and starts attacks.
Sure our movement up top isn’t great but even when the runs are there he doesn’t find them (he’s not alone in that of course)

I think that is very harsh, when the movement is there he starts attacks.  Point in case recently, he started the attack for Barry's second on Friday.

Reed is the only player i will be really disapointed to see leave at the end of the season.


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Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, April 19, 2022, 14:21:00
Reed can be an asset.  What he needs is the right players mingled in with him and someone in the central defence who has the balls to tell him to fuck off at the right times.


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Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, April 19, 2022, 14:22:27
Reed sat with L Thompson and Luongo next to him, that would have been lovely to watch.


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Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, April 20, 2022, 13:52:05
McGirty has declared himself fit and raring to go for the remaining dead rubbers


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Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Wednesday, April 20, 2022, 13:59:07
McGirty has declared himself fit and raring to go for the remaining dead rubbers

Four games to impress future employers!


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Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, April 20, 2022, 14:08:11
Four games to impress future employers!
Same applies to Jojo, Reed, Payne and Williams.


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Post by: theakston2k on Wednesday, April 20, 2022, 14:16:46
Same applies to Jojo, Reed, Payne and Williams.
As opposed to the rest continuing to scare future employers off?


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Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Wednesday, April 20, 2022, 14:52:10
Same applies to Jojo, Reed, Payne and Williams.

If I was any of those players agents I would tell any scouts to go to the away games only!


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Post by: Shrivvy Road on Wednesday, April 20, 2022, 18:10:12
Same applies to Jojo, Reed, Payne and Williams.
Reed i think with better players in the middle will be even better, i genuinely wouldn't care about the other 3


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Post by: Legends-Lounge on Wednesday, April 20, 2022, 18:30:23
Well one thing is for sure. Wherever we play next season May-Aug is going very interesting and entertaining.


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Post by: adje on Wednesday, April 20, 2022, 19:09:40
I'd personally be disappointed to lose Jonny Williams. No one will convince me he's not quality,especially at this level


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Post by: tans on Wednesday, April 20, 2022, 19:35:13
I'd personally be disappointed to lose Jonny Williams. No one will convince me he's not quality,especially at this level

I agree


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Post by: NotHarryAgombar on Wednesday, April 20, 2022, 21:45:13
The problem with Williams - and this is true of several others in our squad - is that his past injury record / consequent lack of fitness means he is really only good for an hour if he starts (he often looks better and has more influence on the game coming on  as an impact sub) and he certainly can’t play all 3 in a Saturday/Tuesday/Saturday sequence.
Having several players like this impacts on team selection as these players’ game time is having to be managed.
This has been the case all season for Williams and Gladwin, at other times / in some measure for players returning from injury - Barry, Baudry, Lyden, - or players signed in January (or later) with little game time in the first part of the season - Egbo, Barry again, Davison, Tomlinson, O’Brien and Cooper.
With a proper pre season and hopefully lifting of the embargo we should have a squad where we have most players capable of lasting 90 mins and playing 3 games when we have that issue.


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Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, May 2, 2022, 18:25:31
Yowzer!


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Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, May 4, 2022, 12:16:23
https://twitter.com/marleystfc/status/1521818555439853568?s=20&t=3ZUtMTK9nsyv-I15Zru7LA


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Post by: jayohaitchenn on Wednesday, May 4, 2022, 12:42:22
https://twitter.com/marleystfc/status/1521818555439853568?s=20&t=3ZUtMTK9nsyv-I15Zru7LA


Love it. Where can you see the full show?


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Post by: DiV on Wednesday, May 4, 2022, 13:27:22
Love it. Where can you see the full show?

Mark Hanrahans Twitter has a link to his twitch channel which has it.

That’s how I found it


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Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, May 4, 2022, 13:40:36
Mark Hanrahans Twitter has a link to his twitch channel which has it.

That’s how I found it

https://www.twitch.tv/thesirtombroadbentlounge


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Post by: jayohaitchenn on Wednesday, May 4, 2022, 14:35:44
Thanks chaps


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Post by: Briggany on Thursday, May 5, 2022, 08:30:41
Just saw a comment on one of todays article in the adver:

"4000 now I believe. Walsall moved a load of season tickets holders to accommodate an additional 500"

Not sure if true,but good news if so.


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Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 5, 2022, 09:33:23
Just saw a comment on one of todays article in the adver:

"4000 now I believe. Walsall moved a load of season tickets holders to accommodate an additional 500"

Not sure if true,but good news if so.
Nothing on our OS, Walsalls OS or the Walsall forum, I dont think this is true TBH.


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Post by: Berniman on Thursday, May 5, 2022, 10:27:53
At the awards do last night, Clem said that Angus had tried to get more tickets but was unsuccessful, whether something has changed this morning I don't know.


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Post by: Red Frog on Thursday, May 5, 2022, 10:29:09
At the awards do last night, Clem said that Angus had tried to get more tickets but was unsuccessful, whether something has changed this morning I don't know.

Did we sponsor someone this year? Did you get a shirt, or have they run out this season?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, May 5, 2022, 10:30:00
Quote from: Berniman
At the awards do last night, Clem said that Angus had tried to get more tickets but was unsuccessful, whether something has changed this morning I don't know.

anything interesting said?


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Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, May 5, 2022, 10:59:26
At the awards do last night, Clem said that Angus had tried to get more tickets but was unsuccessful, whether something has changed this morning I don't know.

What did he say about the budget cuts?  ;)


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Post by: Miles Mayhem on Thursday, May 5, 2022, 11:14:06
Charlie Austin has signed already and Scott Twines sell on fee is 93.7%


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Berniman on Thursday, May 5, 2022, 11:16:29
Did we sponsor someone this year? Did you get a shirt, or have they run out this season?

This was the Players awards night not Sponsors dinner.  We didn't sponsor this year, nobody contacted us as usual, probably because there were more important fish to fry at the time..  hence no shirt or draw this year.

If anyone fancies jumping in and taking on the player sponsorship duties for next season then let me know, I think I have done it for 5+ years and it might be time for fresh blood if anyone wants it..


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Post by: Berniman on Thursday, May 5, 2022, 11:20:00
anything interesting said?

Not publicly no - was a good night though, the players were in great spirits.  Mckirdy was funny with his acceptance speeches, similar to that video linked on here..


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Post by: Berniman on Thursday, May 5, 2022, 11:20:42
What did he say about the budget cuts?  ;)

The players will be paying subs next season


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Post by: horlock07 on Saturday, May 14, 2022, 19:56:13
Is that McKirdy rapping on the Ukrainian Eurovision entry, looks like a hat he would wear.

Sent from my SM-A125F


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Post by: Nemo on Friday, May 20, 2022, 07:38:14
Recategorising a little, the first post is out of date too. Think we should probably get a retained list in the next few days.

LOANS ENDING
9. Josh Davison (ST - Loan)
14. Brandon Cooper (DC - Loan)
16. Jake O'Brien (DC - Loan)
19. Louis Barry (ST - Loan)
23. Joe Tomlinson (DL - Loan)

OUT OF CONTRACT THIS SUMMER
1. Jojo Wollacott (GK - 2022)
2. Akin Odimayo (DRC - 2022)  
4. Dion Conroy (c) (DC - 2022)
6. Mathieu Baudry (DC - 2022)  
8. Jordan Lyden (DM - 2022)
10. Jack Payne (AMRLC - 2022)  
15. Manny Idem (GK - Unknown, but guessing this summer)
17. Jayden Mitchell-Lawson (AMRLC,FC - 2022)
18. Mandela Egbo (D/WBR - 2022)
20. Jonny Williams (AMLC, 2022)
24. Rob Hunt (D/WBRL - 2022)
25. Louis Reed (MC - 2022)
26. Ryan East (DM - 2022)
28. Ricky Aguiar (MF - 2022)
30. Mo Dabre (MF - 2022)

CONTRACTED BEYOND THIS SUMMER
3. Ellis Iandolo (D/WBL/AML - not announced but probably 2023)
7. Ben Gladwin (AMRLC - not announced but probably 2023)
11. Harry McKirdy (AMRLC - not announced but probably 2023)
12. Lewis Ward (GK - not announced but probably 2023)
13. Steve Mildenhall (GK - Coaching contract)
29. Harry Parsons (ST - 2023)
32. George Cowmeadow (AML/ST - not announced but probably 2023)
34. Harrison Minturn (DC -  not announced but probably 2023)

YOUTH PLAYERS
31. Donny Gordon
33. Levi Francis
35. Callum Winchcombe
36. Anton Dworzak
37. Harvey Fox
38. Tom Wynn-Davis
39. Jed Afenyo
40. Jacob Bunch

Not sure if I've missed any contract renewals, particularly for the younger lads. Not much under contract, but we were in the same position last summer much later and Chorley did a great job.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nemo on Friday, May 20, 2022, 07:44:52
of the OOC players, I'd categorise them as follows:

Would like to re-sign, expect them to leave: Wollacott, Payne, Reed, Baudry (to retirement)
Would like to re-sign, expect them to stay: Odimayo, Conroy, Egbo, Williams, Hunt, Aguiar, Dabre
Happy from them to go: Lyden (sadly), Idem, JML, East


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Post by: jayohaitchenn on Friday, May 20, 2022, 07:56:59
First post updated


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Post by: Miles Mayhem on Friday, May 20, 2022, 08:01:36
What are the chances of Payne and Reed staying then. The squad does seem the have a real togetherness and who knows what our financial position is now we’re out of the embargo (Not showing on the EFL website anymore)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Power to people on Friday, May 20, 2022, 08:18:28
Reed, Payne & Maybe AK (he had other interest last season) may depend what other offers they get whether they decide to stay.

It is expected we will be a promotion chasing team next season, some players will like that idea rather than going to a team that will just play lower level L1 football depends on the thoughts of the player (and their agent).


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, May 20, 2022, 08:20:28
I think we'll need at least 2 new Centre Backs for next season but the core of the side should hopefully be retained. The one I am unsure on is Jack Payne, do we push the boat out for him or use his wages to fund 2 decent players. Also what do we do with the lesser spotted Lyden?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 20, 2022, 08:20:43
Reed is too good to stay
Payne is too expensive

that's my expectationss. Along with a bid for McKirdy.

Can see a near total rebuild of key positions

But hey, I could be wrong again


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Friday, May 20, 2022, 08:28:14
I'd like to see Lyden back if he can prove his fitness over the summer.
He was unlucky with the injury.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nemo on Friday, May 20, 2022, 08:36:40
I'd like to see Lyden back if he can prove his fitness over the summer.
He was unlucky with the injury.

Three seasons here, he's played 24 games in 19/20, then 15 in 20/21 and 14 this season, including sub appearances. I'd love him to prove his fitness, but I can't see it happening.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: tans on Friday, May 20, 2022, 08:50:07
Conroy not offered a new deal apparently according to some bloke who spoke to him after the game


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Friday, May 20, 2022, 09:04:28
What are the chances of Payne and Reed staying then. The squad does seem the have a real togetherness and who knows what our financial position is now we’re out of the embargo (Not showing on the EFL website anymore)

All assumptions on my part but anything players say publicly about togetherness and close knit squad, real team bond - is just sound bytes for the fans to smile over.

I don’t for one second think any footballer would choose a ‘good dressing room’ over a more financially beneficial / longer contract.

I know about as much (probably less) about Clem and how much money he has behind him & how much he can / will put into the club…but…if we have serious intent / ambition we are going to have to offer the likes of Payne & Reed favourable terms to stay.

If not, it’ll be recycle the players and end up with a new team every year and no consistency 


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bewster on Friday, May 20, 2022, 09:05:58
Chatting to Tomlinson after the Barrow game and asked him about his injury and rehab. He said he would be back next season. I asked if it would be here and he replied by smiling and raising both hands with fingers crossed.

Fuck knows what that means and I'm never "ITK", in fact I'm the furthest person from being "ITK" but I'd thought I share it.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: MangoRed on Friday, May 20, 2022, 09:10:38
Conroy not offered a new deal apparently according to some bloke who spoke to him after the game

Orient with Rob Hunt I’ve heard a few say


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Sippo on Friday, May 20, 2022, 09:14:26
I have a niggly feeling that McKirdy will stay but will struggle next season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Old_Town_Red on Friday, May 20, 2022, 09:33:28
Three seasons here, he's played 24 games in 19/20, then 15 in 20/21 and 14 this season, including sub appearances. I'd love him to prove his fitness, but I can't see it happening.


With Lyden, I’d do what I’ve seen a few clubs have already done in their retained list for injured players. No new contract but invited to rehab with the club and have pre season.

Lyden, good player but injuries are against him for me


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, May 20, 2022, 09:33:42
I have a niggly feeling that McKirdy will stay but will struggle next season.

I suggest he might want to look at the career of Sam Parkin (and many similar).


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Old_Town_Red on Friday, May 20, 2022, 09:40:36
Orient with Rob Hunt I’ve heard a few say

Would be gutted if Hunt went but wouldn’t surprise me if he linked up with Wellen’s at Orient.

Not surprised if Conroy isn’t offered deal. If he was to stay I don’t see him as captain material.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 20, 2022, 09:41:11


I know about as much (probably less) about Clem and how much money he has behind him & how much he can / will put into the club…but…if we have serious intent / ambition we are going to have to offer the likes of Payne & Reed favourable terms to stay.

If not, it’ll be recycle the players and end up with a new team every year and no consistency 

Agree. But as you say, intent/ambition = money.

Clem isn't super loaded AFAIK.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, May 20, 2022, 09:46:50
Conroy not offered a new deal apparently according to some bloke who spoke to him after the game

He's on League 1 wages apparently so makes sense to use his wage alternatively I guess.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, May 20, 2022, 09:55:07
Orient with Rob Hunt I’ve heard a few say

I love Hunty but Egbo is an improvement on Hunt. Egbo with Hunt as sub would be preferable but if he Hunty wants to go and play for Wellens again, then fair enough.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, May 20, 2022, 10:02:01
Conroy not offered a new deal apparently according to some bloke who spoke to him after the game

Good god some corners of the internet are going to break!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: ThreeDrawsMentality on Friday, May 20, 2022, 10:08:34
Would absolutely love to keep Egbo. With a full pre season and in Garners style, feel he could explosive.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, May 20, 2022, 10:12:16
Would absolutely love to keep Egbo. With a full pre season and in Garners style, feel he could explosive.
100% this.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, May 20, 2022, 10:19:37
Would be gutted if Hunt went but wouldn’t surprise me if he linked up with Wellen’s at Orient.

Not surprised if Conroy isn’t offered deal. If he was to stay I don’t see him as captain material.
Conroy can’t continue to be captain, we need some with some leadership and organisational skills in that role, first half last night it was again lacking and Baudry was the only one trying to sort it. Can’t imagine his ego would allow him to lose the captaincy and not be an automatic starter so makes sense for all parties that he leaves.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: MangoRed on Friday, May 20, 2022, 10:20:05
I love Hunty but Egbo is an improvement on Hunt. Egbo with Hunt as sub would be preferable but if he Hunty wants to go and play for Wellens again, then fair enough.

100 agree. Hunt been poor for last two seasons for me. Mr consistent and solid under wellens in 19/20 but far far from it since. A fit EGBO in a back 5 is a better player.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: singingiiiffy on Friday, May 20, 2022, 10:34:58
short memories. hunt has had a very good season imo- completely different to last season. im not going to look but i bet he had loads of mom votes and comments in those threads. filled in all over the back line.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Friday, May 20, 2022, 10:42:27
Without doubt a squad overhaul will now follow.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 20, 2022, 10:43:26
Hunts a good defender. He's just not an attacking wing back.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Friday, May 20, 2022, 11:04:41
Without doubt a squad overall will now follow.


Go on…

Tell us whose staying and whose going….


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, May 20, 2022, 11:05:40
Without doubt a squad overall will now follow.

I would prefer a squad overhaul myself.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Friday, May 20, 2022, 11:12:58
I would prefer a squad overhaul myself.

Perhaps but maybe it’s better the devil you know?

A complete squad overhaul and we could literally finish anywhere next season. Complete lottery.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Ticker45 on Friday, May 20, 2022, 11:14:46
Three seasons here, he's played 24 games in 19/20, then 15 in 20/21 and 14 this season, including sub appearances. I'd love him to prove his fitness, but I can't see it happening.

A quick chat to him last night and reckons he would be back in October. A good friend of mine who is a Villa fan always said that his injury problems was why they let him go.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 20, 2022, 11:16:36
The only way we can have Lyden back is as pay as you play IMO.

I feel awful saying that, but we don't have the luxury of 1/4 season players.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Friday, May 20, 2022, 11:16:52
I would prefer a squad overhaul myself.

Tidied 🥴


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, May 20, 2022, 11:19:19
Perhaps but maybe it’s better the devil you know?

A complete squad overhaul and we could literally finish anywhere next season. Complete lottery.

We need at least 2 mobile centre backs, a more physical centre mid and one of those players needs to be real leader.  And then of course at least 2 centre forwards and a replacement for Barry. That’s still an overhaul regardless of whether we keep hold of the Reed, Williams, McKirdy, Payne spine.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: mrverve on Friday, May 20, 2022, 11:21:11
We need 2 new centre backs and a centre forward, Davidson for all his work off the ball is terrible with the ball.

Maybe Simpson to come back if we can afford him.

Only way I can see Payne staying is if he can't get a better deal elsewhere as we'll probably offer him reduced terms.

I can see Reed staying, also think McKirdy will will want to continue with us.



Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Friday, May 20, 2022, 11:27:04
We need 2 new centre backs and a centre forward, Davidson for all his work off the ball is terrible with the ball.

Maybe Simpson to come back if we can afford him.

Only way I can see Payne staying is if he can't get a better deal elsewhere as we'll probably offer him reduced terms.

I can see Reed staying, also think McKirdy will will want to continue with us.



Simpson? Loan likely if he fits in our plans and Ipswich do not want to play him in their first team.
Payne would get a better deal here if his deal has expired and we want to keep him.
I thought McKirdy had signed an extension already?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Formerly Drummer Boy on Friday, May 20, 2022, 11:29:37
Expecting to leave - Jojo Wollacott, Dion Conroy, Jordan Lyden, Ryan East.

Not sure about Odimayo. Expect Dabre and Aguiar to play more of a part next season. If we can re-sign Baudry, Egbo, Reed, Williams and Payne... That's a solid foundation to build around with Ward, Iandolo and McKirdy also on the books.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: mrverve on Friday, May 20, 2022, 11:31:29
Simpson will want to leave Ipswich won't he, not sure on fee's etc (tribunal) but yeah would love to see him back here.

Can't see us offering Payne the same terms if I'm honest.

Yes McKirdy is contacted to another year, meant it would take a silly offer to tempt us and I'm not sure other managers would be able to manage him like Garner has


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, May 20, 2022, 11:32:27
I would prefer a squad overhaul myself.

Interesting as that's not what I have heard. (re the squad overhaul, not the overall/overhaul spelling thing).


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Exiled Bob on Friday, May 20, 2022, 11:33:20
Go on…

Tell us whose staying and whose going….
I'd tell you but I can't say. But I'll confirm it in 2 or 3 weeks. ;)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Friday, May 20, 2022, 11:34:07
I'd tell you but I can't say. But I'll confirm it in 2 or 3 weeks. ;)

Yeah, I’m in the same boat here…honest…


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, May 20, 2022, 11:34:34
Simpson will want to leave Ipswich won't he, not sure on fee's etc (tribunal) but yeah would love to see him back here.

Can't see us offering Payne the same terms if I'm honest.

Yes McKirdy is contacted to another year, meant it would take a silly offer to tempt us and I'm not sure other managers would be able to manage him like Garner has

Ipswich want 300k for Simpson. Not sure we'll be pushing the boat that far out.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 20, 2022, 11:35:14
no chance

we have debts to service and a ground to purchase.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Exiled Bob on Friday, May 20, 2022, 11:35:58
short memories. hunt has had a very good season imo- completely different to last season. im not going to look but i bet he had loads of mom votes and comments in those threads. filled in all over the back line.
Definitely. He was playing great until he got injured. People forget also that he plays left back a lot of the time and that's not his natural position. Versatile player and dependable.

I'd be willing to bet that if he is released he'll sign for Orient.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: JoeMezz on Friday, May 20, 2022, 11:36:26
Ipswich want 300k for Simpson. Not sure we'll be pushing the boat that far out.

Don’t think Ipswich get a say on the matter. I thought it went to tribunal to decide


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, May 20, 2022, 11:36:57
Interesting as that's not what I have heard. (re the squad overhaul, not the overall/overhaul spelling thing).
Depends on the definition of overhaul though doesn’t it. Surely we won’t bother to waste any more time on Davison, Barry is gone and neither centre backs should be starters next season so that’s at least 4 new starters even if others stay. Then there are the fringe players where we need a real overhaul as JML, Parsons, East etc have just been filling seats on the bench not offering actual game changing options. So you’re probably looking at 8 or 9 signings at least so quite an overhaul.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: MangoRed on Friday, May 20, 2022, 11:37:07
No way are we gonna turn into a club spending big fees on players etc. expect much of the same recruitment.. 5 loans, freebies and 2 or 3 in the Dabre/Aguiar mould.

Hopefully we can offer better wages and get them signed quicker so who cares if it’s freebies, not impossible to do well on frees and loans, we was a game off Wembley this season!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Friday, May 20, 2022, 11:39:47
Don’t think Ipswich get a say on the matter. I thought it went to tribunal to decide

He’s got a year left on his contract now right?
So we’d have to agree a fee


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Super Hans on Friday, May 20, 2022, 11:40:17
They've been decent recently (Frenchie very good actually) but Baudry and Conroy have done their time here and think we should part ways and look for two centre halves who haven't had a career compromised by injury. Thank them and move on.

Reed and Payne i'd certainly like to tie down to a deal. But we need a more robust midfielder in there to help out in the midfield with them. Williams definitely worth a year also. Egbo certainly.  

Lyden unfortunately i'd let go.

Make Tyreece Simpson number one target for a striker role alongside another striker with more experience.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: JanAirplaneMan on Friday, May 20, 2022, 11:41:22
Expecting to leave - Jojo Wollacott, Dion Conroy, Jordan Lyden, Ryan East.

Not sure about Odimayo. Expect Dabre and Aguiar to play more of a part next season. If we can re-sign Baudry, Egbo, Reed, Williams and Payne... That's a solid foundation to build around with Ward, Iandolo and McKirdy also on the books.
Lydon has been told he will get a chance next season so expect a short term contract or trail period when he is fit


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, May 20, 2022, 11:47:04
Don’t think Ipswich get a say on the matter. I thought it went to tribunal to decide

They triggered an extra year on his contract so we can either buy him or wait for him to be out of contract next season. I can see a league 1 club taking a punt on him for around that price unfortunately.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: MangoRed on Friday, May 20, 2022, 11:48:23
My guess is Wollacott, AK, Conroy, Baudry, Hunt, East, Reed, JML and Payne all leave

Williams to stay for another year with the 5 other contracted players


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, May 20, 2022, 11:50:55
Depends on the definition of overhaul though doesn’t it. Surely we won’t bother to waste any more time on Davison, Barry is gone and neither centre backs should be starters next season so that’s at least 4 new starters even if others stay. Then there are the fringe players where we need a real overhaul as JML, Parsons, East etc have just been filling seats on the bench not offering actual game changing options. So you’re probably looking at 8 or 9 signings at least so quite an overhaul.

That's fair. I guess it's all about your definition of overhaul. First XI as you say the 2 Centre Backs are probably going to be replaced and also Davidson and Barry. I suppose over 1/3 of your team could be defined as an overhaul. I'd personally say this season was an overhaul bearing in mind we only had 7 professionals, this pre-season is a minor tweak in comparison!! :)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Friday, May 20, 2022, 11:56:25
I wouldn’t be surprised to see Barry back for another year. There is definitely something there with him and reckon we’d see better from him if we got him for another year.

Davison I’d be ok with coming back just not as first choice / our only out and out striker.

Conroy & Baudry have done well the last few weeks. No idea if they will stay. Won’t lose any sleep if they go - won’t be spitting feather if they stay. Again wouldn’t be surprised to see JOB here again next season.

Clearly JoJo is gone and Ward is our #1


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Friday, May 20, 2022, 11:57:34
I mean from that the most obvious take away is I don’t think #s 1-11 has been our problem. It’s been #s 12-20 where we have fallen short…


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Friday, May 20, 2022, 12:13:12
I wouldn’t be surprised to see Barry back for another year. There is definitely something there with him and reckon we’d see better from him if we got him for another year.

Davison I’d be ok with coming back just not as first choice / our only out and out striker.

Conroy & Baudry have done well the last few weeks. No idea if they will stay. Won’t lose any sleep if they go - won’t be spitting feather if they stay. Again wouldn’t be surprised to see JOB here again next season.

Clearly JoJo is gone and Ward is our #1
Agree with this and your post about 12-20. Barry is someone who will benefit from coming off the bench etc, i thought last night summed up our season actually. A extra few players to bring off the bench or even starting Barry on the bench would allow us to freshen it up but we have just never been afforded that luxury this season


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Friday, May 20, 2022, 12:21:35
Agree with this and your post about 12-20. Barry is someone who will benefit from coming off the bench etc, i thought last night summed up our season actually. A extra few players to bring off the bench or even starting Barry on the bench would allow us to freshen it up but we have just never been afforded that luxury this season

To me Barry & Davison are two players who would have probably benefitted from having a few games out / on the bench.
Two players we would have benefitted massively by having good replacements for.

I mean this is Barry’s longest run of professional games in his young career. Best training in the world to prepare for that won’t be the same as doing it but we didn’t have any other options to rest him.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Friday, May 20, 2022, 12:51:03
I mean from that the most obvious take away is I don’t think #s 1-11 has been our problem. It’s been #s 12-20 where we have fallen short…

This. We've managed to put out a fairly decent first 11 this season but the squad is paper thin


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, May 20, 2022, 13:00:22
This. We've managed to put out a fairly decent first 11 this season but the squad is paper thin
Exactly this.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Posh Red on Friday, May 20, 2022, 13:15:15
This. We've managed to put out a fairly decent first 11 this season but the squad is paper thin

This is true, but was not dissimilar to the 92/93 season where we played the same 11 for a fairly long run, and only had a fairly small squad.

Can’t imagine that it’s successful very often though


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 20, 2022, 13:31:51
defense was well catered for.

midfield and particularly up top less so.

that's why it's frustrating.. so very very close


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Friday, May 20, 2022, 13:41:10
My guess is Wollacott, AK, Conroy, Baudry, Hunt, East, Reed, JML and Payne all leave

Williams to stay for another year with the 5 other contracted players

I think you will be very close with that mate.

The only concerns I will have if we keep the likes of East and JML on cost grounds as they are not good enough and we need some physical quality.
Lyden more than likely will be here.

All very well wanting changes, the concerns I have are reducing costs further.
We need experience that is currently lacking.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: blinkpip on Friday, May 20, 2022, 13:50:45
Be a bit shit if our wage budget isn't in the top 7 and we can't complete with Orient. Other teams have debts also and we almost double attendances compared.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 20, 2022, 13:53:13

East and JML on cost grounds

But they haven't featured. May as well put me and you on the bench, we'd do it for free. Unless you are suggesting  they'll be starting. Eeek
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As as aside, was it you that talked to the unusually well presented blond lady at the end of out row? I assume she was a WAG - just being nosy to know whose?!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: MangoRed on Friday, May 20, 2022, 13:54:19
I think you will be very close with that mate.

The only concerns I will have if we keep the likes of East and JML on cost grounds as they are not good enough and we need some physical quality.
Lyden more than likely will be here.

All very well wanting changes, the concerns I have are reducing costs further.
We need experience that is currently lacking.


The fact I’m close with it is a concern let’s be honest. Rebuilds are never good unless you’ve got a shite squad. Only 3/4 I’d keep but still, some would keep all bar JML and east.

JML and east just ain’t up to it- both given chances and failed miserably- nothing players. Happy for lyden on pay as you play as he’s a nasty midfielder what we need at times (when fit).


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Friday, May 20, 2022, 14:03:36

The fact I’m close with it is a concern let’s be honest. Rebuilds are never good unless you’ve got a shite squad. Only 3/4 I’d keep but still, some would keep all bar JML and east.

JML and east just ain’t up to it- both given chances and failed miserably- nothing players. Happy for lyden on pay as you play as he’s a nasty midfielder what we need at times (when fit).

With the utmost due respect to the Duke, unless he knows 100% it is a speculative assessment. I’m all for a reduced budget as long as the recruitment is if the right quality and numbers needed. Otherwise we will be in a perpetual dog chasing tail scenario every season until we get new owners and look where that has gotten us. Clem & co have given us a tantalising glimpse into the future, be a shame to throw
it away. Be like throwing the clubs ashes into the wind.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Pericardinho on Friday, May 20, 2022, 14:07:13
A lot of negativity here regarding the potential retained list.

I read somewhere we have options on a 2nd  year for Reed and Williams.

Payne did an interview in the summer where he basically said he wants to settle down at a club. He could've jumped ship back then but didn't. Things are looking better now. Think he'll stay too.

In fact, the only one I'd say with a degree of certainty that will leave is JoJo.

Regardless, we need to sign a couple of players in the Jordan Lyden / Anthony Grant mould. Last night was no good. Reminded me of Arsenal under Wenger. Lots of technicians but nobody to win the ball back to give it to them.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 20, 2022, 14:22:24
Pericardinho -  tis the (silly) season, its what fans do,  speculate! You know this.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: JanAirplaneMan on Friday, May 20, 2022, 14:34:25
My guess is Wollacott, AK, Conroy, Baudry, Hunt, East, Reed, JML and Payne all leave

Williams to stay for another year with the 5 other contracted players
I believe Reed is staying and has or will sign. Paynes wages are the issue with us being in lg2 as are Conroy's, Baundry may decide not to retire as he has said that he has fallen back in love with football being in our 1st team in the last few months. Hunt i think will be a high earner so probably join wellens at Orient. AK i cant see going, hasn't done enough to be wanted outside of STFC and on lower wage. Woolacott likely to go i think.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Riddick on Friday, May 20, 2022, 14:42:04
It was said awhile ago that Reed/Williams had signed and were staying. I assume some complications with embargo etc prevented them confirming and officially doing it.

No way Payne stays with his wage.

The important thing is we get better squad options than East/JML. JML particualrly was poor and meant we had no attacking back up.

I'll be sad to see Hunt go. You don't get a better RB in this league. It will also be a sign of worry if we cant afford his wages. Not quite the same as Payne as Payne is on a fortune.

AK - you have to ask can we get better? His ball playing has been bad this season, which is important to Garner. But his flexibility gives him a lot of value.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, May 20, 2022, 14:54:21
Paynes wages are the issue with us being in lg2 as are Conroy's.
How can Conroy’s wages be an issue? With his injury history he should be in no position to demand big money. If he’s a high earner or demand high wages then he’s certainly not worth the money.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 20, 2022, 15:00:16
How can Conroy’s wages be an issue? With his injury history he should be in no position to demand big money. If he’s a high earner or demand high wages then he’s certainly not worth the money.

Everyone has bills to service. If he can get more elsewhere then fair enough.

Have we even offered him a reduced contract?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, May 20, 2022, 15:01:26
How can Conroy’s wages be an issue? With his injury history he should be in no position to demand big money. If he’s a high earner or demand high wages then he’s certainly not worth the money.

He's on league 1 money apparently.

Heard a few rumours earlier, Wollacott is off to Pompey. Conroy and Hunt off to join Wellens at Orient.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Friday, May 20, 2022, 15:03:29
All this talk of reduced budget worries me. Its been dismissed before but people keep saying it. I cannot possibly see the justification coming out of a transfer embargo with the season we've had and the support we've got.

That being said, even with a bit if of a bigger budget I'd expect, we'll still lose some because clubs in higher divisions will come in for them.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Quagmire on Friday, May 20, 2022, 15:03:32
How can Conroy’s wages be an issue? With his injury history he should be in no position to demand big money. If he’s a high earner or demand high wages then he’s certainly not worth the money.

I’m not Conroys biggest fan in the slightest but I wouldn’t expect him to take a pay cut to stay.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: HorlocksLegs on Friday, May 20, 2022, 15:04:38
Did anyone here Zavier Austin on the prematch BBC Wiltshire sound yesterday?

The way he was talking it sounded like our budget should be good next season but whether that was dependant on L1 or not i'm not sure.

Have a listen around 44 minutes in.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0c5lnfc


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Friday, May 20, 2022, 15:04:44
He's on league 1 money apparently.

Heard a few rumours earlier, Wollacott is off to Pompey. Conroy and Hunt off to join Wellens at Orient.

Not overly bothered about any of that to be honest. I rate Ward. I don't rate Conroy. Hunt is decent but doesn't really work in out system as a right wing back.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: ThreeDrawsMentality on Friday, May 20, 2022, 15:04:55
How can Conroy’s wages be an issue? With his injury history he should be in no position to demand big money. If he’s a high earner or demand high wages then he’s certainly not worth the money.
When he re-signed him in 2019, we had to fend off League One interest off the back of his impressive end to the 18/19 campaign. After his injury he stated he chucked on an extra year. There must have been an option, potentially appearance based he must have triggered to have extended after 20/21. So is most likely on the same wages we offered in 2019


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Quagmire on Friday, May 20, 2022, 15:05:56
All this talk of reduced budget worries me. Its been dismissed before but people keep saying it. I cannot possibly see the justification coming out of a transfer embargo with the season we've had and the support we've got.

That being said, even with a bit if of a bigger budget I'd expect, we'll still lose some because clubs in higher divisions will come in for them.

The budget isn’t being cut - it’s being increased.
However, certain players (Conroy, Payne) are on pretty good money for a league 2 side, which isn’t sustainable. So have/will be offered reduced terms.

That’s all it is.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: MangoRed on Friday, May 20, 2022, 15:09:13
I believe Reed is staying and has or will sign. Paynes wages are the issue with us being in lg2 as are Conroy's, Baundry may decide not to retire as he has said that he has fallen back in love with football being in our 1st team in the last few months. Hunt i think will be a high earner so probably join wellens at Orient. AK i cant see going, hasn't done enough to be wanted outside of STFC and on lower wage. Woolacott likely to go i think.

Nice one. Be class to keep Reed. No shocks about the others. Only thing I disagree with you on is AK- think he’s been class when he’s had to fill in at left back season. Poor blokes got a left foot about as useful as Oscar Pistorius’s left limb and has still been solid.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, May 20, 2022, 15:10:39
I’m not Conroys biggest fan in the slightest but I wouldn’t expect him to take a pay cut to stay.
No but I would have also expected his wages to reflect that one of his renewals was a good will gesture to give him security to return from injury. His cost vs games played ratio must be ridiculous if he’s maintained his original wage in all that time.  If Wellens wants to pay him decent money and take a punt on him then he’s welcome to him.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: JanAirplaneMan on Friday, May 20, 2022, 15:11:05
Nice one. Be class to keep Reed. No shocks about the others. Only thing I disagree with you on is AK- think he’s been class when he’s had to fill in at left back season. Poor blokes got a left foot about as useful as Oscar Pistorius’s left limb and has still been solid.
Yes that's a very pair point, agreed


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Posh Red on Friday, May 20, 2022, 15:11:14
All this talk of reduced budget worries me. Its been dismissed before but people keep saying it. I cannot possibly see the justification coming out of a transfer embargo with the season we've had and the support we've got.

That being said, even with a bit if of a bigger budget I'd expect, we'll still lose some because clubs in higher divisions will come in for them.

Hasn’t it been said that the overall budget is going up, but they’re not going to use it up by paying individuals more.

I guess the point is to have more strength in depth.

There’s probably very few people who really “know” what the real truth is, the rest of us will find out when players sign or leave.

For me we need a core of players for a few years that we can build around.
We are pretty much always going to rely on getting some quality loans in, but feel we need a core of players that are ours, otherwise every season is a major rebuild.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Friday, May 20, 2022, 15:25:50
Budget will go up but it’ll need to stretch to say 20 first team players rather than 13.

How much is Payne on - as everyone seems to know?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, May 20, 2022, 15:28:24
Not overly bothered about any of that to be honest. I rate Ward. I don't rate Conroy. Hunt is decent but doesn't really work in out system as a right wing back.

Agreed. I think Ward is more than good enough to be our keeper next season. His kicking/play with ball at his feet, whilst far from perfect has improved as the season has progressed.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Friday, May 20, 2022, 15:34:28
Budget will go up but it’ll need to stretch to say 20 first team players rather than 13.

How much is Payne on - as everyone seems to know?

Would be very surprised if anyone on a football message board truly knew what players were being paid. Most players keep respective contract details close to themselves and rightly so.

The Payne interest is really down to the fact that he was on an original 2 year deal from a higher division and would be one of the major higher earners.

Simply have to wait and see what unfolds but not ruling out a Championship move if the interest rumour unfolds.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Friday, May 20, 2022, 15:36:42
Agreed. I think Ward is more than good enough to be our keeper next season. His kicking/play with ball at his feet, whilst far from perfect has improved as the season has progressed.

Not commanding enough for me.
Both Conroy and Baudry were screaming a few times for a voice.
We are naturally a quiet team thus keep banging on about experience and game management being naive.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Friday, May 20, 2022, 15:42:48
Is there really that much of a difference in wages between a L1 and a L2 player?
Same question but for clubs respective income. This season we’ve had better attendance than a lot of clubs the next level up (yes I realise that isn’t the only source of income) so how can they seemingly all pay more and we can’t match that?

Obviously I know we still have stuff going on in the background but you can’t tell me there isn’t also some right basket cases in L1 as well with historical debts and what not


Title: Re: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Friday, May 20, 2022, 15:47:14
Is there really that much of a difference in wages between a L1 and a L2 player?
Same question but for clubs respective income. This season we’ve had better attendance than a lot of clubs the next level up (yes I realise that isn’t the only source of income) so how can they seemingly all pay more and we can’t match that?

Obviously I know we still have stuff going on in the background but you can’t tell me there isn’t also some right basket cases in L1 as well with historical debts and what not
My thoughts are similar. Added to that the talk of "increased costs" like it's only Swindon that's effected by this and not every club in the UK.

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Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: MangoRed on Friday, May 20, 2022, 15:53:29
Budget will go up but it’ll need to stretch to say 20 first team players rather than 13.

How much is Payne on - as everyone seems to know?

Zero chance it’s a reduced budget as we under a cap this year. Defo won’t be offering wages like Payne was on mind. Could be BS but I coulda sworn Lincoln are still paying part of his wages and they are around the 5k mark.

(Please note the could be BS).


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: JoeMezz on Friday, May 20, 2022, 16:00:24
Zero chance it’s a reduced budget as we under a cap this year. Defo won’t be offering wages like Payne was on mind. Could be BS but I coulda sworn Lincoln are still paying part of his wages and they are around the 5k mark.

(Please note the could be BS).

Why are we still under a Cap? We’re off embargo


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: JoeMezz on Friday, May 20, 2022, 16:01:45
Is there really that much of a difference in wages between a L1 and a L2 player?
Same question but for clubs respective income. This season we’ve had better attendance than a lot of clubs the next level up (yes I realise that isn’t the only source of income) so how can they seemingly all pay more and we can’t match that?

Obviously I know we still have stuff going on in the background but you can’t tell me there isn’t also some right basket cases in L1 as well with historical debts and what not

Don’t disagree with this, plus a factor to consider is we are saving money by not paying rent to the council, as we now own the ground. I guess for us the difference between L1 and L2 is 1000 average less away fans with Sheff Wed, Rovers, Oxford etc in the league above who’d have sold out away ends


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Friday, May 20, 2022, 16:05:16
Zero chance it’s a reduced budget as we under a cap this year. Defo won’t be offering wages like Payne was on mind. Could be BS but I coulda sworn Lincoln are still paying part of his wages and they are around the 5k mark.

(Please note the could be BS).

The internet rumour was that Lincoln are still paying Payne part of his wages till the expiration of his Lincoln contract which will be this June.

What the figure is and whether it’s true I can’t say.


Title: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 20, 2022, 16:26:34
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[ plus a factor to consider is we are saving money by not paying rent to the council, as we now own the ground.  
No we don't.

Plus the club have to find 1M up front for their half, which is what, 3 or 4 years rent?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Posh Red on Friday, May 20, 2022, 16:34:07
The internet rumour was that Lincoln are still paying Payne part of his wages till the expiration of his Lincoln contract which will be this June.

What the figure is and whether it’s true I can’t say.

The Top 10 earners at all clubs was reported on a website last season, and that was allegedly from the EFL where wages had to be reported. Don’t know if it’s true, but these were the figures.

5,100 Payne
3,500 Pitman
3,500 A. Grant
2,400 Conroy
2,200 Hope
2,100 J. Grant
2,100 Grounds
2,100 Lyden
2,000 Fryers
1,900 Baudry

Obviously the majority are no longer at the club, and 50% of Payne’s was being paid by Lincoln.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Formerly Drummer Boy on Friday, May 20, 2022, 16:41:28
No we don't.

Plus the club have to find 1M up front for their half, which is what, 3 or 4 years rent?

Buying the County Ground should not be considered as an cost saving exercise. The stadium has been neglected for years so should be considered as a monthly investment.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, May 20, 2022, 16:46:44
Don’t disagree with this, plus a factor to consider is we are saving money by not paying rent to the council, as we now own the ground. I guess for us the difference between L1 and L2 is 1000 average less away fans with Sheff Wed, Rovers, Oxford etc in the league above who’d have sold out away ends
Next season is going to depressing on that front, there won’t be a single team that brings enough to even contemplate opening the Bank for based on historical followings. Shame we can’t take the opportunity to close it most of next season and get a roof on it as it’s going to be largely redundant.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: MangoRed on Friday, May 20, 2022, 17:09:04
Why are we still under a Cap? We’re off embargo

I meant this season we’ve been capped


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Friday, May 20, 2022, 17:11:16
Agreed. I think Ward is more than good enough to be our keeper next season. His kicking/play with ball at his feet, whilst far from perfect has improved as the season has progressed.

Was always what I expected/hoped would come with regular game time.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: adje on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 08:59:35
Egbo's "tweet" unfortunately sounds like a goodbye. Which,if true, is a shame.Would be a massive boost to keep hold of him


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 09:30:01
Egbo's "tweet" unfortunately sounds like a goodbye. Which,if true, is a shame.Would be a massive boost to keep hold of him

I fear the exodus list will be comprehensive.

I await with interest the ambition at the club now the embargo is lifted. After all the club have been backed by the Supporters as requested.
A team full of kids and free loans is not the answer in my opinion or a wafer thin squad without the depth to change or influence games. Cutting the budget is not the answer.

We are not here to develop other clubs players and all about getting this club with big potential moving again. This season after all was a free hit.



Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 09:31:49
I don't mind an exodus to a certain extent, it's what we replace it with that matters.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: adje on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 09:38:21
I fear the exodus list will be comprehensive.

I await with interest the ambition at the club now the embargo is lifted. After all the club have been backed by the Supporters as requested.
A team full of kids and free loans is not the answer in my opinion or a wafer thin squad without the depth to change or influence games. Cutting the budget is not the answer.

We are not here to develop other clubs players and all about getting this club with big potential moving again. This season after all was a free hit.


Yes,this is the worry. Securing Egbo and Payne would be an unbelievable start to the business and,although he gets a lot of negative press,Davison on a permanent would be a good move in my opinion.A pre season with us would improve him I'm sure and we could have a decent L2 striker


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 09:57:59
I took Egbo’s tweet to purely mean the season was over, not his Town career


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: adje on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 10:02:04
I took Egbo’s tweet to purely mean the season was over, not his Town career
Hope so


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 10:02:45
Egbo's "tweet" unfortunately sounds like a goodbye. Which,if true, is a shame.Would be a massive boost to keep hold of him
Would love to keep Egbo but that sounded like a "its a goodbye from me, and its goodbye from him".


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 10:08:35
I took Egbo’s tweet to purely mean the season was over, not his Town career

Yeah I can see how you would read that actually. I suppose he can't say, 'looking forward to more' or anything given I suspect we will at least try and get him signed up.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: RWB Robin on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 10:55:18
McKirdy's tweet, on the other hand, saying "We'll be back" sounded positive.....


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Posh Red on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 11:43:21
McKirdy's tweet, on the other hand, saying "We'll be back" sounded positive.....

He’s signed for another season already, whereas Manny isn’t (yet)


Title: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 11:45:52
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I don't mind an exodus to a certain extent, it's what we replace it with that matters.
exactly that.

I'd love to keep most of the squad together and add a few. That's the ideal. But it's unrealistic.

An interesting summer ahead.

 Fan perception is that debts are under control, that crowds are well over predictions and that budget will be released for a proper go at promotion.

rightly so
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players tweets. Get more idea of intent from the tea leaves


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 11:58:20
Flint's been released by Cardiff🤔


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 12:20:50
exactly that.

I'd love to keep most of the squad together and add a few. That's the ideal. But it's unrealistic.

An interesting summer ahead.

 Fan perception is that debts are under control, that crowds are well over predictions and that budget will be released for a proper go at promotion.

rightly so
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players tweets. Get more idea of intent from the tea leaves

Is that why they are called PG Tips?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 12:23:52
nice Bob, nice


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: RWB Robin on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 13:05:17
He’s signed for another season already, whereas Manny isn’t (yet)

Of course, but signing a new contract does not prevent him from leaving if a better offer comes along...just means we will get a fee. That's why the apparent Hibs interest could have had legs


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: theakston2k on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 13:08:06
Of course, but signing a new contract does not prevent him from leaving if a better offer comes along...just means we will get a fee. That's why the apparent Hibs interest could have had legs
There’s no way McKirdy would go to Scotland, they’d never let him go to Chelsea all the time due to distance


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Posh Red on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 13:09:36
Of course, but signing a new contract does not prevent him from leaving if a better offer comes along...just means we will get a fee. That's why the apparent Hibs interest could have had legs

Of course he could leave, but until we accept an offer for him he’s still a Town player for next season, hence the different tone in his message compared to Egbo


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 13:29:55
There’s no way McKirdy would go to Scotland, they’d never let him go to Chelsea all the time due to distance

Edinburgh airport to London Heathrow, hour and 15? Maybe less?



Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 13:31:52
Of course whether they’d allow him to make the trip is a different subject but the added distance is negated by a quicker method of transport.

Although I’m under the impression he still lives in Doncaster anyway…


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 15:03:54
There’s no way McKirdy would go to Scotland, they’d never let him go to Chelsea all the time due to distance
These are the sort of reasons he will never make it above league 1 in my opinion. You'd think he would realise how close he was to having no job last summer and also realise not evry club will let him get away with what we do


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 15:22:55

Although I’m under the impression he still lives in Doncaster anyway…

Yep


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 15:27:53
Would love to keep Egbo but that sounded like a "its a goodbye from me, and its goodbye from him".
That's how I read it too.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: JBZ on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 18:00:54
McKirdy will leave in the summer but will return to having limited success at his new (championship) club.  Keeping Egbo would be a good thing.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 18:02:25
Coventry🤔


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: JBZ on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 18:05:22
He would be a cheap punt for a lower half championship club. 


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 18:07:24
I did see Coventry mentioned somewhere but wasn't sure if it was genuine


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: JanAirplaneMan on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 18:23:49
Edinburgh airport to London Heathrow, hour and 15? Maybe less?


Hes stated he would not go to a Scottish club so can rule that out


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: JanAirplaneMan on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 18:25:30
I did see Coventry mentioned somewhere but wasn't sure if it was genuine
They have their eyes on other forwards and have made bids already, one of their coaches confirmed they were not interested in Harry


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 18:26:00
Cheers Jan


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Quagmire on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 18:50:42
If what I’ve heard is genuine - and I have no reason not to believe it considering they’ve always been bang on - next season our aim is to get automatics out of this shit league.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 18:54:44
Need a few decent signings as it's sure to be a tough league.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: JBZ on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 18:57:04
2 CBs and a CF would be a good start. 


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 18:58:03
If what I’ve heard is genuine - and I have no reason not to believe it considering they’ve always been bang on - next season our aim is to get automatics out of this shit league.

I've heard our budget has been SLASHED and the owners see our future as a non league entity.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: JBZ on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 19:02:17
As observed previously, Stockport and (presumably) Wrexham may well make it tougher next season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 19:10:44
If what I’ve heard is genuine - and I have no reason not to believe it considering they’ve always been bang on - next season our aim is to get automatics out of this shit league.

I’m happy I’ve read this post.

Nothing alluded too - just an outright statement.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 19:19:06
Quote from: Quagmire
If what I’ve heard is genuine - and I have no reason not to believe it considering they’ve always been bang on - next season our aim is to get automatics out of this shit league.

it's certainly what the fans are expecting for us to try for.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, May 21, 2022, 19:26:00
As observed previously, Stockport and (presumably) Wrexham may well make it tougher next season.

Expect Bradford to be contenders once Hughes gets his players in


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: reeves4england on Sunday, May 22, 2022, 06:34:47
Expect Bradford to be contenders once Hughes gets his players in
Would be interested to know what Bradford’s budget is like. They have loads of season ticket holders but sell them so cheap it wouldn’t surprise me if our ST revenue was on a par or higher


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Sunday, May 22, 2022, 07:23:14
Need a few decent signings as it's sure to be a tough league.

Likely to be tougher than this season.
Just hope we can get some much needed experience and a few physical players in.

We will be losing a few we have with experience thus we need to replace these and add a stronger bench. Going to be interesting to see if Budgets are increased and we do compete with clubs at our level.

With the support we should do very comfortably.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Sunday, May 22, 2022, 07:25:11
If what I’ve heard is genuine - and I have no reason not to believe it considering they’ve always been bang on - next season our aim is to get automatics out of this shit league.

Can only hope and will wait and see. I remain sceptical.
Like you I want out of this league absolutely detest it.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: JoeMezz on Sunday, May 22, 2022, 07:29:19
I'm not sure why people think it'll be a tougher league. FGR Exeter and Rovers are all stronger than the teams coming down. Stockport (and presumably Wrexham) may add strength but promoted sides haven't done brilliantly in the last few years.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Sunday, May 22, 2022, 07:37:16
McKirdy will leave in the summer but will return to having limited success at his new (championship) club.  Keeping Egbo would be a good thing.

I heard at Walsall:
Harry was going to Millwall.
Austin was 99% over the line.
Tyreece wasn't coming back due to costs involved.
I've since heard Austin isn't coming back for a couple of reasons, one being money.



Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Sunday, May 22, 2022, 07:49:14
I'm not sure why people think it'll be a tougher league. FGR Exeter and Rovers are all stronger than the teams coming down. Stockport (and presumably Wrexham) may add strength but promoted sides haven't done brilliantly in the last few years.

I'm inclined to agree. I can't really see Crewe, Donny or Gills doing a lot. Wrexham and Stockport are likely to challenge and although it's early on I reckon Orient, Bradford and Walsall are likely to be improved.

If the board show real intent we should be top 3 next season based on what we were able to do last season when we had one hand tied behind our back.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Sunday, May 22, 2022, 07:50:51
I reckon McKirdy will be kicking off next season in a town shirt. Yes he had a superb season but I'm not sure he's anywhere like Championship standard so I'm surprised to see him linked with clubs like Millwall and Coventry.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, May 22, 2022, 07:59:57
I'm not sure why people think it'll be a tougher league. FGR Exeter and Rovers are all stronger than the teams coming down. Stockport (and presumably Wrexham) may add strength but promoted sides haven't done brilliantly in the last few years.

I never said a tougher league Joe but stated that it will be tough if we don't rebuild the squad with decent replacements.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Sunday, May 22, 2022, 08:21:30
I don’t think many clubs (if any) would be interested in paying money for McKirdy.
Let’s be honest, he’s had a great season but it is his first and only decent season in his career at 25.

If he was available on a free I could see someone taking the gamble but can’t envision clubs paying money for what is potentially a one season wonder…


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: JBZ on Sunday, May 22, 2022, 08:22:56
I don’t think many clubs (if any) would be interested in paying money for McKirdy.
Let’s be honest, he’s had a great season but it is his first and only decent season in his career at 25.

If he was available on a free I could see someone taking the gamble but can’t envision clubs paying money for what is potentially a one season wonder…

Time will tell


Title: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Sunday, May 22, 2022, 09:08:37
Quote
I've since heard Austin isn't coming back for a couple of reasons, one being money.
I mean I bet nobody is suprised at that.

But, and I know it's petty, but he'll have sullied himself if he ends up with his mate at fucking Rovers.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, May 22, 2022, 09:13:26
I'm not in the know but maybe if we had gone up there was a possibility and wouldn't be surprised if he ended up at Pompey


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Sunday, May 22, 2022, 09:37:31
I reckon McKirdy will be kicking off next season in a Town shirt. Yes he had a superb season but I'm not sure he's anywhere like Championship standard so I'm surprised to see him linked with clubs like Millwall and Coventry.

Kind of agree mate if being brought as a First XI player but often clubs have strategy on player recruitment and might invest in a player just to stop another club from buying them or factor things in like squad size and McKirdy could be signed as a 3rd choice forward for a lower Championship side.

Something like that could happen and that comes down to individual preference. Where some might see it as a money move,  others would see it as seizing an opportunity. As Town fans many of us will be selfish in what is the correct next step for McGirty (and others who are good enough for a level or more up). Think though we have to take our own personal opinion head off and think what actually is the best step for several players. For me,  McGirty, Payne (even Conroy to a degree) and some others are all at key points where their next decision is an important one.

I definitely agree he's probably not Championship FIrst XI but he would slot into a 3rd choice Champ position. Maybe with caveats of X guaranteed Cup starts, X amount of matchday squad (bench) apps, Contract triggers for X amount of First XI apps as well as things like leaving on free if those clauses aren't met. That's all guess work but you can see a package like that being put together. Maybe factor in being signed on something like a 3yr deal and year one is back to the selling club on a SLL.

Win-Win all round and I think we then have a Louis Thompson type scenario sans lenghty injury problems. I'd be happy with that if McGirty were sold  :)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, May 22, 2022, 09:48:28
I don’t think many clubs (if any) would be interested in paying money for McKirdy.
Let’s be honest, he’s had a great season but it is his first and only decent season in his career at 25.

If he was available on a free I could see someone taking the gamble but can’t envision clubs paying money for what is potentially a one season wonder…
Omar Bogle had 1 good season in league 2 (19 goals) and earned a £700k move from Grimsby at the age of 24 and a half.

Jayden Stockly was 26 when after 1 and a half good seasons in L2 (36 goals in 66 games) got a transfer to Preston for £750k.

Ollie Watkins had 1 good season in L2 and got a £1.8m transfer to Brentford (although he was 22 at the time).


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Sunday, May 22, 2022, 10:21:22
You also have to factor in the challenge of managing the player himself. Whilst he has been a breath of fresh air at Swindon and we seem to have a superb bond between the squad there is no guarantee it would work that way at another club. It never worked out for him really at Vale and his time at Carlisle ended poorly and he said himself the only reason he signed for Swindon is because we were a mess.

Clearly there is a risk with all players but for someone as characterful as he is, it's an added burden, especially as we would command a reasonable fee I would imagine.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, May 22, 2022, 10:22:42
You also have to factor in the challenge of managing the player himself. Whilst he has been a breath of fresh air at Swindon and we seem to have a superb bond between the squad there is no guarantee it would work that way at another club. It never worked out for him really at Vale and his time at Carlisle ended poorly and he said himself the only reason he signed for Swindon is because we were a mess.

Clearly there is a risk with all players but for someone as characterful as he is, it's an added burden, especially as we would command a reasonable fee I would imagine.
Also....some players just work at some clubs. Look at Sam Parkin for instance.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Sunday, May 22, 2022, 10:23:10
Also....some players just work at some clubs. Look at Sam Parkin for instance.

Yeah, I'm a firm believer of this.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Sunday, May 22, 2022, 10:26:49
Also....some players just work at some clubs. Look at Sam Parkin for instance.

Oh absolutely. Remember Northampton fans taking the piss when we signed Parkin. It just seemed to click for him from the outset.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Sunday, May 22, 2022, 10:29:44
You also have to factor in the challenge of managing the player himself. Whilst he has been a breath of fresh air at Swindon and we seem to have a superb bond between the squad there is no guarantee it would work that way at another club. It never worked out for him really at Vale and his time at Carlisle ended poorly and he said himself the only reason he signed for Swindon is because we were a mess.

Clearly there is a risk with all players but for someone as characterful as he is, it's an added burden, especially as we would command a reasonable fee I would imagine.

Oh absolutely. McGirty might enjoy being a big fish in a small pond with the added freedoms he enjoys at this (and prob L1 level). Moving elsewhere easily could mean he has to adapt (especially in a Champ set up with limited opportunities) and he may struggle to settle. That's why I reckon a SSL back as part of any deal would probably be a good move if things went that way.

Definitely a key decision point in his career currently :)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Sunday, May 22, 2022, 10:44:49
In fairness Sam Parkin started off ok at Ipswich but broke his ankle and was never quite the same again.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, May 22, 2022, 10:49:53
In fairness Sam Parkin started off ok at Ipswich but broke his ankle and was never quite the same again.
Its actually less than you would think, he got a goal every 2 games for us but a goal every 4 for Ipswich before the injury, yes its a higher level but 50% lower strike rate.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Formerly Drummer Boy on Sunday, May 22, 2022, 15:35:21
Its actually less than you would think, he got a goal every 2 games for us but a goal every 4 for Ipswich before the injury, yes its a higher level but 50% lower strike rate.

Unless my memory mistakes me too, Ipswich also played Parkin in an outright target man role like we've had Simpson and Davison this season. It goes back to being at the right club with the right style of play for the player to thrive for me.

The same can be said with managers too, e.g. Wellens, Cooper and now Garner.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, May 23, 2022, 08:15:03
Given Northampton provided their release/retain list last Thursday (a day after their play off defeat) I anticipate ours will be today. It should be interesting to hear who we have offered contracts to/released.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 23, 2022, 09:07:47
Unless my memory mistakes me too, Ipswich also played Parkin in an outright target man role like we've had Simpson and Davison this season. It goes back to being at the right club with the right style of play for the player to thrive for me.

The same can be said with managers too, e.g. Wellens, Cooper and now Garner.
Absolutely right.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, May 23, 2022, 09:48:59
Given Northampton provided their release/retain list last Thursday (a day after their play off defeat) I anticipate ours will be today. It should be interesting to hear who we have offered contracts to/released.

Who do people think will be going without an offer then?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Monday, May 23, 2022, 09:55:35
Who do people think will be going without an offer then?

Wollacott for one.

#1 all season then dropped at the end. Over the age of 24.
I’d say he told us weeks ago he had no interest in being here next season.



Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 23, 2022, 10:03:40
I am sure we will offer new contracts to all those out of contract barring Idem and Conroy who will probably be released.

Lyden offered pay as you play terms or a 6 month deal.

Wether they accept terms or not is a different matter. I fully expect Jojo, Payne and possibly Reed and Williams receiving offers from bigger teams.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: adje on Monday, May 23, 2022, 10:24:41
If Williams leaves,I will cry


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, May 23, 2022, 10:34:32
If Williams leaves,I will cry

I have to be honest Williams irritated me for much of the season, I felt he spent more time on the floor than he really needed to. Towards the end of the season I think he started to hit some proper form and we saw something more like the International footballer he is. If we can keep him next season I think he can kick on. Again, this is all dependent on whether Jack Payne stays or goes, but if he does leave, I can see Williams excelling in the Jack Payne 'role'


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 23, 2022, 10:38:11
For me Williams has made a huge impact.

My Charlton supporting mate said he will win loads of fouls with his gamesmanship, and he has, its part of the game now and he wins them well.

I would love to get him tied down to a longer contract, although Wrexham have expressed an interest, but then they have in Payne, McKirdy, Jojo and Reed as well if you read their forum.

They also seem to think they are going to sign Wayne Hennesey and the Brentford England U21 keeper Balcombe! deluded.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Monday, May 23, 2022, 10:41:46
I hope that we add some physicality to the squad


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, May 23, 2022, 10:48:43
I have to be honest Williams irritated me for much of the season, I felt he spent more time on the floor than he really needed to. Towards the end of the season I think he started to hit some proper form and we saw something more like the International footballer he is. If we can keep him next season I think he can kick on. Again, this is all dependent on whether Jack Payne stays or goes, but if he does leave, I can see Williams excelling in the Jack Payne 'role'

Is the fact that he rarely lasts 90 mins down to fitness or tactics? In 44 games last season he only played 90 mins in 5 of them!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Hyabb17 on Monday, May 23, 2022, 10:50:59
I am sure we will offer new contracts to all those out of contract barring Idem and Conroy who will probably be released.

Lyden offered pay as you play terms or a 6 month deal.

Wether they accept terms or not is a different matter. I fully expect Jojo, Payne and possibly Reed and Williams receiving offers from bigger teams.

Jojo will be off which I would assume make Ward the number 1. With that said I would probably keep Idem as a back up as I'm not sure you'll bring anyone in to sit on the bench. That's how I see things anyway.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: MangoRed on Monday, May 23, 2022, 10:53:10
Jojo will be off which I would assume make Ward the number 1. With that said I would probably keep Idem as a back up as I'm not sure you'll bring anyone in to sit on the bench. That's how I see things anyway.

If we didn't have the playing style we do and instead had a flitcroft kinda style, Ward would be the perfect number 1,  I just worry about his ability with ball at feet and kicking from open play, its never been great.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, May 23, 2022, 10:56:24
If we didn't have the playing style we do and instead had a flitcroft kinda style, Ward would be the perfect number 1,  I just worry about his ability with ball at feet and kicking from open play, its never been great.

Its not ideal, but hopefully it will improve when he is not behind defenders giving him hospital passes on his wrong foot.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, May 23, 2022, 11:03:07
If we didn't have the playing style we do and instead had a flitcroft kinda style, Ward would be the perfect number 1,  I just worry about his ability with ball at feet and kicking from open play, its never been great.

I'm inclined to agree although I mentioned before that it does look like he has been working on his kicking as it was atrocious at the start of the season and I think it has improved. As Horlock says, our centre backs need to remember not to give him hospital passes as he isn't as good with the ball at feet like Jojo was.



Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 23, 2022, 11:31:29
Quote from: horlock07
]Who do people think will be going without an offer then?

Idem
JML
East

possibly wages:
Payne
Conroy

retire: Baudry

others will be offered contact imo. However whether they can get more elsewhere if the issue

retained list is only the start of the story


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 23, 2022, 11:32:52
Idem
JML
East

possibly wages:
Payne
Conroy

retire: Baudry

others will be offered contact imo. However whether they can get more elsewhere if the issue

retained list is only the start of the story
Yeah pretty much this although I expect us to offer Payne a deal but wages wont be high enough and I am sure Conroy will be leaving and not offered a contract, East he may give a 1 year to if his head is in the right place now.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Freddies Ferret 2.0 on Monday, May 23, 2022, 11:50:09
When can we expect the retained list?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 23, 2022, 12:01:34
When can we expect the retained list?
Has to be very soon, all the other clubs in L2 have released theirs, its just us, Port Vile and Mansfield left I think.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Monday, May 23, 2022, 12:11:54
Wollacott for one.

#1 all season then dropped at the end. Over the age of 24.
I’d say he told us weeks ago he had no interest in being here next season.



But he was only injured...


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: adje on Monday, May 23, 2022, 12:47:28
There's a decent player potentially in Ryan East I reckon


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: NotHarryAgombar on Monday, May 23, 2022, 14:06:29
The issue with Woolacott, is that with the World Cup there will be a fair number of games he’s not going to be available for.
With a limited budget, this may be a factor. As we’d need extra goalkeeping cover (whilst I have a lot of time for Mildy, we can’t seriously expect him to provide cover on a regular basis.
The same (World Cup duty) could apply to Williams if Wales win through their play offs.

I think East is a tidy player - but lacks physicality - we need a bit more of that in midfield next season - for dealing with the long ball teams and dodgy pitches in the middle of winter.

We also need a home grown player on the bench (or have a reduced number on the bench) - which may save JML as we only have Parsons, Cowmeadow and Minturn to fill that slot currently.

Logically Payne and Conroy will go - high wages.
I’d like Hunt to stay but expect he will have better offers - similarly Egbo, Reed and possibly Odimayo.
For some it may come down to playing regularly as opposed to bench warming and the fact they rate Garner as a coach. Depends how much they are offered to go elsewhere too no doubt.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Monday, May 23, 2022, 14:10:27
I personally think he will end up like Vigaroux, got carried away with international call ups and end up going backwards in his career


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: kaufman on Monday, May 23, 2022, 14:15:12
Vigouroux is the perfect keeper for this side. I'd love him back. Won't happen of course.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 23, 2022, 14:22:40
I personally think he will end up like Vigaroux, got carried away with international call ups and end up going backwards in his career
I think this too.

Similar to Kasim....goes off to World Cup qualifiers and the World Cup...plays with bigger name and better players and has his head turned and wants some of what they have got, and TBH who can blame him, you only get one chance at a career so go grab it with both hands, as it were.

Also despite the overseas interest from Wrexham (!) I feel he will go abroad to a top flight club in Belgium, Holland or such like where hes playing at a better level.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: fuzzy on Monday, May 23, 2022, 14:43:34


I think East is a tidy player - but lacks physicality - we need a bit more of that in midfield next season - for dealing with the long ball teams and dodgy pitches in the middle of winter.


I remember being at an away game somewhere 3 years ago or so where someone behind me shouted out "It's a mans game Scotty" to a young Twine as he trotted back after getting shoved off the ball....


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Monday, May 23, 2022, 17:07:33
For me Williams has made a huge impact.

My Charlton supporting mate said he will win loads of fouls with his gamesmanship, and he has, its part of the game now and he wins them well.

I would love to get him tied down to a longer contract, although Wrexham have expressed an interest, but then they have in Payne, McKirdy, Jojo and Reed as well if you read their forum.

They also seem to think they are going to sign Wayne Hennesey and the Brentford England U21 keeper Balcombe! deluded.

All the older existing contracts will not be renewed, all about cheap loans where the club won’t need to pay wages for appearances.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Monday, May 23, 2022, 17:39:20
We won't see any of our current squad again then is what you are saying


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Monday, May 23, 2022, 17:40:21
There's a decent player potentially in Ryan East I reckon

Players of this calibre will not get us out of this league unfortunately.
We need to be aiming far higher.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Monday, May 23, 2022, 17:43:43
We won't see any of our current squad again then is what you are saying

I’m talking contracts from the LP era that are higher than the “new” era.

For me all about the quality we bring in to replace the experience outgoing.
Not convinced a team of kids is the solution but all about what unfolds and hope it all comes together.

My concern is whether we are competing with “smaller” clubs in our division.
We should be, however all about quality and strength in depth that has been lacking.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Trashbat? on Monday, May 23, 2022, 19:23:30
Other than Payne, I am honestly not bothered about any of the old LP players.

Baudry - stepped up in the last 6 week weeks but injury prone
Conroy - Good on his day, but not captain material and replaceable
Hunt - consistent, but the way we play requires attacking full backs
Lyden - good player but too injury prone



Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Monday, May 23, 2022, 19:31:16
I’m talking contracts from the LP era that are higher than the “new” era.

For me all about the quality we bring in to replace the experience outgoing.
Not convinced a team of kids is the solution but all about what unfolds and hope it all comes together.

My concern is whether we are competing with “smaller” clubs in our division.
We should be, however all about quality and strength in depth that has been lacking.
Ah got ya, yes know what you mean. Part of me is glad we are getting rid of a few of the old guard as such. Like you say, what we add to it is key


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Monday, May 23, 2022, 21:08:03

...I feel he will go abroad to a top flight club in Belgium, Holland or such like where hes playing at a better level...

I reckon he may end up at somewhere like Emmen or Go Ahead Eagles

Possible he "does a Knoyle" though and goes to somewhere like Sutton or Salford, claiming it's an ambitious move to a bigger club....really it'll just be that he'll be closer to two large international airports - handy when departing for International duty ey ;)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Monday, May 23, 2022, 21:22:12
Other than Payne, I am honestly not bothered about any of the old LP players.

Baudry - stepped up in the last 6 week weeks but injury prone
Conroy - Good on his day, but not captain material and replaceable
Hunt - consistent, but the way we play requires attacking full backs
Lyden - good player but too injury prone



This.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: theakston2k on Monday, May 23, 2022, 22:17:52
I’m talking contracts from the LP era that are higher than the “new” era.

Right I’m really confused now. So you’re now saying we aren’t going to able the same level of contract we did under Power? Wasn’t the main criticism of Power that we didn’t offer decent contracts, didn’t spend money and overly relied on loan players. If you’re saying we are now going to be operating below the level Lee Power had us operating then Clem best have his exit strategy planned as fans will turn on him quicker than you can say ‘disgruntled’.

Next season is a big season for Clem, any perceived reduction in squad quality or lack of an obvious increase of squad strength/spending is going to result in questions being asked and rightly so due to the embargo this season. He must know this so I’d like to think he would be short sighted enough to undo all the goodwill that has been restored towards the backend of this season.

How much of what you are saying is based on factual stuff you’ve heard and how much is just based on Conroy not being offered a new deal?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Monday, May 23, 2022, 22:27:16
I assume the point is we offered the big contracts and were able to pay them via loans from Lee Power*


*Standing / Barry you know blah blah the rest


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: ThreeDrawsMentality on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 05:39:20
While DOB's statement can seem kind of worrying in isolation....being completely honest I feel it's the complete opposite and sensible management instead. It applies to players brought in pre Summer 2021, of which:
-Payne - well know Lincoln were covering a proportion of his wages still, based upon an original top end L1 deal. It was always unlikely we'd be able to then cover his full wage expectations in full.
-Conroy - signed his original deal when we were trying to fend off L1 interest, it's clear from recruitment Garner would prefer different CBs, not worth retaining on similar wages.
-Lyden - crocked
-Hunt - Key player under Wellens but as doesn't directly fit Garners style, justifies a squad player wage now.
-Baudry - Justifies a squad player wage now, despite his Indian summer.

The only one who'd justify the same wages would be Payne, but we already know that is unlikely for all non-moneybags clubs in League Two


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Pookemon on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 06:32:26
It's the old question of small squad with more expensive proven players or larger squad with fewer.

Desperately struggled with numbers this so do expect more this time around.

It's an educated guess that the budget will go up, but with Salford, Stockport and possibly Wrexham in the league we won't be competing financially with these so called smaller clubs but will be top 6.   


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 07:33:44
I guess every club has a wage structure. Based on the above we are leveling ours. We've no idea if that's to L2 average, or above, or below

As DRS says, we'll have to see what the replacements are before judging.

as ever it's going to be a few weeks before we see. Will players accept new offers, will we get kids or men in to the core of the team, etc


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Hyabb17 on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 07:43:56
The thing with the wage bill being reduced (or rumoured to be) is that the club have asked the fans to back it. They want 6000 season ticket holders, crowds of 10,000+. If they club do not show the right ambition then how can you expect fans to put in their hard cash. I understand living within your means but after the season we've had, money coming in over what was expected (IMO) it could backfire drastically.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 08:05:35
There will be plenty of decent players available this season as Clubs look to recover from Covid cost impact and through expiring longer term deals.

No issue with the players leaving the club whatsoever but not replacing experience could cost us.
Low cost, kids on loan if in isolation is a risky business.
I will judge on intent but I am sceptical and nothing will change my view until I see the intent. Can only hope we are not reducing the budget this season and we nail some of the transfer targets.
After all we are a big club in this awful division.
If we are not competing with clubs that bring in half of our attendances then questions need to be asked, even more so who ultimately is making the decisions at the very top.



Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 08:06:31
The thing with the wage bill being reduced (or rumoured to be) is that the club have asked the fans to back it. They want 6000 season ticket holders, crowds of 10,000+. If they club do not show the right ambition then how can you expect fans to put in their hard cash. I understand living within your means but after the season we've had, money coming in over what was expected (IMO) it could backfire drastically.

This spot on.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Miles Mayhem on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 08:41:46
One positive is that we have a settled management team that have an established style of playing. They should be able to identify the types of players required now to play Bens tactics. The fan base are no longer complaining about slow sideways passing or Ben is out of his depth. I think next season could be massive for us and autos should be the target. I hope the budget is in line with that and Clem pushes on from this season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 09:06:31
The fan base are no longer complaining about slow sideways passing or Ben is out of his depth.

Because we actually played with a decent tempo during the run in. I'm hoping he doesn't reset back to default in the summer.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Hyabb17 on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 09:25:17
Because we actually played with a decent tempo during the run in. I'm hoping he doesn't reset back to default in the summer.

100% this.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Miles Mayhem on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 09:32:27
Because we actually played with a decent tempo during the run in. I'm hoping he doesn't reset back to default in the summer.

Surely the lead up to the playoffs is how he wants us to play. Fast attacking football.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 09:33:24
They want 6000 season ticket holders,

Anybody know how many we had last year?

The current total is about 3500 with only a week to go until seaon tickets not renewed


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Hyabb17 on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 09:34:06
Anybody know how many we had last year?

The current total is about 3500 with only a week to go until seaon tickets not renewed

After the January push I think it got up towards 4500-4700.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 09:34:31
Thanks.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 09:45:22
I can see it being slightly less this season with the no visa payments. Or no more than that anyway.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Hyabb17 on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 10:04:59
I can see it being slightly less this season with the no visa payments. Or no more than that anyway.

Tend to agree with that. Think 3500 with only cash/bank transfers/payment plan isn't at all bad.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 10:13:21
Forgot about that. What a PITA it is.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 10:35:43
Forgot about that. What a PITA it is.
Its all about the bread man.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 10:36:31
And the Dough😀


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 10:41:08
I like the scent of Indian Flatbreads although most would say its absolute naan scents.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 10:45:27
I like the scent of Indian Flatbreads although most would say its absolute naan scents.
You won't get a rise out of it


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 10:57:11
This spot on.
This is where i have the issue though, it is rumours.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 11:16:20
I assume the point is we offered the big contracts and were able to pay them via loans from Lee Power*


*Standing / Barry you know blah blah the rest

More pertinent possibly is that those contracts were offered and signed when we were in (or about to go into) League 1 so a completely different budget framework, albeit one would expect Power to have included some proviso for wage reductions on relegation?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 11:45:36
More pertinent possibly is that those contracts were offered and signed when we were in (or about to go into) League 1 so a completely different budget framework, albeit one would expect Power to have included some proviso for wage reductions on relegation?

Fair point but one I raised the other day.

How much extra money is there in L1 compared to L2.

Why would we be much better off on a L1 budget compared to a L2 budget?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 11:53:35
Fair point but one I raised the other day.

How much extra money is there in L1 compared to L2.

Why would we be much better off on a L1 budget compared to a L2 budget?
I am pretty sure in an interview previously with "Shawwwwwwwnnnnnnn" that Power stated previously it was worth about £1m to £1.5m more to a club in L1 as to in L2, not sure what it was based upon though.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Moss on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 11:57:32
I am pretty sure in an interview previously with "Shawwwwwwwnnnnnnn" that Power stated previously it was worth about £1m to £1.5m more to a club in L1 as to in L2, not sure what it was based upon though.

You would think that would be based on the (in this case wrong) assumption that we would have crowds around 6-7k in league 2 and significantly higher in league 1. I'm sure there must be more trickle down from premier league TV payments too mind....


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 12:05:14
You would think that would be based on the (in this case wrong) assumption that we would have crowds around 6-7k in league 2 and significantly higher in league 1. I'm sure there must be more trickle down from premier league TV payments too mind....
It may have been but you know Power...economical with the truth when it comes to finances!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: reeves4england on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 12:11:16
I am pretty sure in an interview previously with "Shawwwwwwwnnnnnnn" that Power stated previously it was worth about £1m to £1.5m more to a club in L1 as to in L2, not sure what it was based upon though.

A quick Google suggests League Two clubs get around £200,000 less than League One clubs in terms of 'solidarity payments' and I think a similar gap in what clubs get as a 'basic award' payment, so there's £400k for you. Then I suppose you factor in the difference in sponsorship revenue, away ticket sales etc and it's fairly easy to see how you'd hit £1m+ over the course of a season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 12:14:19
A quick Google suggests League Two clubs get around £200,000 less than League One clubs in terms of 'solidarity payments' and I think a similar gap in what clubs get as a 'basic award' payment, so there's £400k for you. Then I suppose you factor in the difference in sponsorship revenue, away ticket sales etc and it's fairly easy to see how you'd hit £1m+ over the course of a season.
That makes sense, definately.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 15:42:54
https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2022/may/swindon-town-retained--released-list-2022/?fbclid=IwAR0ee2zVdFKece-JXcoWBN4V9TSw4Kyrr39VIVloo3tDbNoN4ufKJpyc9yY

Quote
Retained list

PLAYERS UNDER CONTRACT FOR 2022-23:
 
Already contracted for the 2022-23 season are: Ricky Aguiar, George Cowmeadow, Ben Gladwin, Ellis Iandolo, Harry McKirdy, Harrison Minturn, Louis Reed, Lewis Ward, Jonny Williams.
 
The Club have also taken up the years contract option on: Mohammad Dabre.
 
PLAYERS OFFERED NEW CONTRACTS:
 
The Club have offered new contracts to Mathieu Baudry, Mandela Egbo, Harry Parsons, Akin Odimayo, Jack Payne and Jojo Wollacott, whilst the Club remain in talks with Rob Hunt.
 
PLAYERS NOT OFFERED NEW CONTRACTS:
 
The Club have released: Dion Conroy, Ryan East, Emmanuel Idem, Jayden Mitchell-Lawson.
 
LOAN PLAYERS RETURNING TO PARENT CLUBS:
 
Whilst loan players Louie Barry, Brandon Cooper, Josh Davison, Jake O’Brien and Joe Tomlinson have all returned to their parent Clubs.
 
OTHERS:
 
Jordan Lyden remains within the fold as the Club continues to monitor the player's progress since being injured in February.



That seems broadly as per rumours - slightly interest that the phrasing around Hunt is different to Payne and the others.

Oh, and Reed and Williams are already under contract!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 15:44:52
Reed and Williams under contract (options or whatever, don't care).

While that's no guarantee we won't get offers, its great news (as was reported by some here)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 15:46:23
With regards to Hunt, does the wording mean we are haggling over certain details while the rest have been offered take it or leave it deals?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 15:46:48
Interestingly (although less importantly than Reed/Williams), Parsons is listed as having been out of contract, which wouldn't have been what was reported before.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 15:48:19
Interestingly (although less importantly than Reed/Williams), Parsons is listed as having been out of contract, which wouldn't have been what was reported before.

It reads that way, unless its an improved contract - but then why list it.

I don't recall the original Parson's announcement TBF

Oh yeah, 2 year

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2021/june/harry-parsons-signs-first-pro-deal-with-town/#:~:text=Swindon%20Town%20are%20delighted%20to,take%20effect%20from%20July%201st.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 15:49:48
Can’t argue with any of that.

I expect Theakston will have the champagne flowing tonight  ;)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 15:49:52
Extremely happy with that. Williams and Reed being here next season would be outstanding. Reed especially.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 15:50:34
Reed and Williams under contract (options or whatever, don't care).

While that's no guarantee we won't get offers, its great news (as was reported by some here)

I don't think its options, because it says below they've taken up an option on Dabre. They must have signed an extention prior to the end of the season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 15:52:13
Great news on those 2


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 15:52:54
Can’t argue with any of that.

I expect Theakston will have the champagne flowing tonight  ;)

And DOB in mourning.

Joking aside I wouldn't really disagree with any of the decisions made by the club. Getting Jack Payne to sign a new deal I think could be a massive statement of intent by the club. Him, Reed and Williams will be key players for a promotion tilt next season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: bathford on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 15:53:09
If I’m repeating some else’s comment.

Conroy has gone.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 15:55:11
Reading through it in more detail after the initial excitement of Reed and Williams.....

I'm surprised Hunt was offered something although he's not a bad player. Mildly surprised East wasn't offered something as he is isn't bad either and feel like a decent squad player, but the club must feel they can do better. They both could have gone either way really and only mildly surprised.

Other than that, its exactly what I would have expected them to do.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 15:57:00
Having 9 players under contract (subject to bids etc) going into a new season seems an improvement on most of the years of the Power era.

Good quality base to build upon for a change.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 15:58:39
East seemed fairly dependable back up with potential to improve then disappeared towards the end of the season  - can only hope we will be upgrading with a more experienced player for next season..


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 15:59:02
Having 9 players under contract (subject to bids etc) going into a new season seems an improvement on most of the years of the Power era.

Good quality base to build upon for a change.


Ten, including Dabre. Admittedly two are first year pros and Aguiar & Dabre are hardly regulars. But it's a good start.

No news on any of the youth team guys (Cowmeadow/Minturn apart) I notice - I assume we'll get a second announcement. Which of the young lads are final year scholars?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 16:00:29
East seemed fairly dependable back up with potential to improve then disappeared towards the end of the season  - can only hope we will be upgrading with a more experienced player for next season..

I agree. You have to hope that is a sign of intent as to what we can do in the free market rather than him simply being underrated.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 16:03:02
Reed and Williams under contract (options or whatever, don't care).

While that's no guarantee we won't get offers, its great news (as was reported by some here)

A year on each.
No issue selling on if a decent fee is received and invested into the squad.
Clearly both are excellent at this level. Desperate for them to stay mind.

Can’t see Payne and Hunt staying - Payne way better than League Two standard.

No real surprises in any of this. Far better position going into June than last season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 16:05:10
East seemed fairly dependable back up with potential to improve then disappeared towards the end of the season  - can only hope we will be upgrading with a more experienced player for next season..

Not good enough unfortunately.
We need better quality in Midfield. Simply didn’t have enough game changers from the bench.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 16:06:41
Far better position going into June than last season.


We'd have been going some to be able to do that!!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 16:07:20
Payne is genuinely the only one we've offered to I'd be gutted to see go.

Next would be Eggbo who I rate, but feel would be replaceable.

Outside of that I expect them mostly to be squad players anyway, but good ones and worth keeping if they choose to stay.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 16:08:17
We'd have been going some to be able to do that!!

Its not the similar overhaul some were predicting though. That is a core I'm quite happy to build on. If we can do half as good recruitment this season we'll be in a great position.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 16:09:51
Its not the similar overhaul some were predicting though. That is a core I'm quite happy to build on. If we can do half as good recruitment this season we'll be in a great position.

Agree totally. Should be an exciting summer and the new season kicks off the end of July so I imagine we won't be hanging around.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Posh Red on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 16:10:35
I think the fact that Reed & Williams are under contract swings the balance a bit.

Would be interesting to know how long the players offered deals have to sign them?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 16:11:54
Random thought. There obviously has been  some chat about Charlie Austin who would clearly be a marquee signing on big money. I wonder if the club see it worth pushing the boat out on getting Jack Payne tied down instead?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: JoeMezz on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 16:13:23
Great list, happy with all. Wish Conroy best of luck in the rest of his career, glad he’s going but he stuck with us last summer and that should be acknowledged.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 16:15:09
With regards to Hunt, does the wording mean we are haggling over certain details while the rest have been offered take it or leave it deals?

Offers but less terms.
I would be surprised if both stay.

Don’t forget Wrexham offered improved terms to Hunt on deadline day last season and it fell through at the wire.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 16:16:15
More than happy with this. Suggests the budget should be ok as well


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Ticker45 on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 16:17:01
Looking at the regular first teamers remaining this is the basis of a good squad and continuation of what we have seen this season. Some judicious further signings that no doubt are on Ben Chorley’s and Ben Garner’s radar obviously are a must and on past players brought in I would be quietly confident we can be there or thereabouts in 2022/2023.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 16:18:07
Great list, happy with all. Wish Conroy best of luck in the rest of his career, glad he’s going but he stuck with us last summer and that should be acknowledged.

Good shout with all those lads that were not being paid but were coming in to train.
Never once threatened to down tools whilst carnage all around them.

You can only wish the outgoing players all the best.


Title: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 16:19:05
if those under contract stay, we at least have a reasonably good starting place

add a couple of the 'offered to' and even better.

good luck to Conroy. Think we'll lose Payne, Hunt and Jojo. big losses but that's football


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 16:19:34
More than happy with this. Suggests the budget should be ok as well

The biggest wage earners off the books.
All about the replacements. Just hoping for some much needed experience to supplement the mass free loan signings.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 16:20:34
if those under contract stay, we at least have a reasonably good starting place

add a couple of the 'offered to' and even better.

good luck to Conroy. Think we'll lose Payne, Hunt and Jojo. big losses but that's football

Think you will right on those 4 mate.
Players and Managers come and go.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 16:21:55
The biggest wage earners off the books.
All about the replacements. Just hoping for some much needed experience to supplement the mass free loan signings.
Only one not offered the new deal was Conroy, you surely dont mean Idem East and Mitchel Lawson


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Posh Red on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 16:23:13
Good shout with all those lads that were not being paid but were coming in to train.
Never once threatened to down tools whilst carnage all around them.

You can only wish the outgoing players all the best.

Absolutely right, all those that stuck with us from the previous season deserve enormous credit & our best wishes.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 16:23:56
Only one not offered the new deal was Conroy, you surely dont mean Idem East and Mitchel Lawson

Reduced terms - all 4.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 16:24:31
Quote from: Shrivvy Road
[]Only one not offered the new deal was Conroy, you surely dont mean Idem East and Mitchel Lawson

to be fair we don't know the details of the contract, i.e. are they on better, worse or the same as now


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 16:30:25
Can’t argue with any of that.

I expect Theakston will have the champagne flowing tonight  ;)
If we keep Egbo and somehow keep Payne and assuming those under contract stay then damn right I’m happy. Add some physicality in midfield, the ability to defend at the back and a striker that can control the ball and we should be well set for next season.

On that specific subject. Despite a bit of an improvement towards the end of the season Conroy’s time with us was done, he’s gone backwards in his time here and his lack of leadership/organisation again showed up on Thursday IMO, especially in the first half. We’ve got a clean slate to bring in a better quality of centre back along with adding a real leader to the team without and potential internal squad politics.

Striker wise I hope we are aiming higher than Davison.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 16:31:39
Parsons and possibly Baudry (if he fancies it) will be the only ones that will accept the offers I reckon.  I would love Payne to stay, resigned to the fact that he won't and I think Egbo and Akin will be looking elsewhere.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 16:33:05
to be fair we don't know the details of the contract, i.e. are they on better, worse or the same as now
I agree we don't


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Swindon Please Win on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 16:34:25
A lot better than I thought it would be, just a bit of a better base to build compared to last season and with a lot more time.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 16:35:46
If we keep Egbo and somehow keep Payne and assuming those under contract stay then damn right I’m happy. Add some physicality in midfield, the ability to defend at the back and a striker that can control the ball and we should be well set for next season.

On that specific subject. Despite a bit of an improvement towards the end of the season Conroy’s time with us was done, he’s gone backwards in his time here and his lack of leadership/organisation again showed up on Thursday IMO, especially in the first half. We’ve got a clean slate to bring in a better quality of centre back along with adding a real leader to the team without and potential internal squad politics.

Striker wise I hope we are aiming higher than Davison.

Would be amazed if Payne is here.
As for Conroy and Baudry they have been immense in the run in and both picked up after Exeter away.
Conroy had a form wobble early this year but got back to early season form.

Hope we get some Centre half stability this season. Far too many changes.

Egbo with a pre season behind him would be an immense signing. Can only hope with this signing.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Super Hans on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 16:37:41
Odimayo, Payne and Egbo signing would be brilliant news. Baudry for another year would be decent as well.

Don't think theres too much hope of Jack staying unfortunately, unless he is genuinely settled and doesn't want to uproot again/doesn't mind a pay cut (Seems highly unlikely and who could blame him. Easily good enough for League 1).

Conroy's time was up but glad it ended on a decent note in terms of the last couple of months. Unfortunately he's prone to breaking down and surely one of the highest earners, maybe even top with Payne?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: adje on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 16:47:54
Has Parsons really been offered an increase?. Really not sure about him,he's looked out of his depth every time I've seen him. Still young,so may come good I suppose. Couldn't really blame Odimayo for wanting away.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Trashbat? on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 16:51:14
Has Parsons really been offered an increase?. Really not sure about him,he's looked out of his depth every time I've seen him. Still young,so may come good I suppose. Couldn't really blame Odimayo for wanting away.

Perhaps the club are nervous based on what happened with Twines development and contract


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 16:57:40
Ten, including Dabre. Admittedly two are first year pros and Aguiar & Dabre are hardly regulars. But it's a good start.

No news on any of the youth team guys (Cowmeadow/Minturn apart) I notice - I assume we'll get a second announcement. Which of the young lads are final year scholars?

Minturn & Cowmeadow signed in March & April.
I'm guessing that they are the only ones from the U18's to make the cut.

Think that Taank will be 2nd year next season so still in with a chance.
Maybe Harvey Fox & Anton Dworzak as well.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 17:22:34
aha, so Parsons signed a two year deal that was voided (power exit) and was then offered a new improved deal  when Clem took over - which was presumably 1 year (embargo or just was)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 17:24:30
Minturn & Cowmeadow signed in March & April.
I'm guessing that they are the only ones from the U18's to make the cut.

Think that Taank will be 2nd year next season so still in with a chance.
Maybe Harvey Fox & Anton Dworzak as well.
Fox and Francis are the pick of the youngsters I have seen, watched them 5 or 6 times now and always impressed with both of them at fullback/wingback/wing. They both did well on their debuts vs Colchester too when they came on.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: NotHarryAgombar on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 17:36:55
The list is probably what I expected.
As others have said, it would be good if some/ all of Payne, Egbo and Odimayo sign the new deals. I would like to see Hunt stay - he is a good defender, and has versatility- while RB is his best position, he has done decent jobs at LB and last season as RCB in a back 3.
Agree with the point about depth - at times last season the bench was very low on quality.
No doubt there will be some loanees to augment any signings as the window progresses.

With apologies for dampening teh mood - when is the court case due to happen? In the light of the recent Vardy/Rooney case I wonder if any of LPs phone records have disappeared into the sea?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 17:57:08
Would be amazed if Payne is here.
As for Conroy and Baudry they have been immense in the run in and both picked up after Exeter away.
Conroy had a form wobble early this year but got back to early season form.

I credit Baudry with the majority of that, clearly his experience and additional leadership made a massive difference. I’d like to think AK or O’Brien would have both thrived alongside him. Let’s not forget when we won the league under Wellens after Conroy got injured we partnered Fryers with Baudry at centre back our form really picked up and they were an immense partnership.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: bathford on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 18:01:07
Colin Calderwood as Asst Manager at Northampton was at the home leg of the P.O’s. At one point he was deep in conversation with Hunt. So watch this space.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: dphunt88 on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 18:04:20
Colin Calderwood as Asst Manager at Northampton was at the home leg of the P.O’s. At one point he was deep in conversation with Hunt. So watch this space.

Calderwood was assistant manager at Brighton, when Rob Hunt was a young player there. So I suspect its just two blokes catching up.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Super Hans on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 18:12:42
Calderwood has left Northampton anyway.

In other news McKirdy's gone short back and sides and dyed it blonde.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 18:33:13
I credit Baudry with the majority of that, clearly his experience and additional leadership made a massive difference. I’d like to think AK or O’Brien would have both thrived alongside him. Let’s not forget when we won the league under Wellens after Conroy got injured we partnered Fryers with Baudry at centre back our form really picked up and they were an immense partnership.

Conroy and Baudry were our best partnership.
AK and JOB decent players but very quiet, Conroy and Baudry always looked to have a solid understanding. Hoping we bring in an experienced leader at the back.

Thank fk Conroy never missed that pressure penalty at Vale as you would have been parked outside his house the next night 😂


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 19:01:39
Quote from: NotHarryAgombar

With apologies for dampening teh mood - when is the court case due to happen? In the light of the recent Vardy/Rooney case I wonder if any of LPs phone records have disappeared into the sea?


July, of it doesn't get postponed


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 19:32:39
Meh, whilst it’s good somethings been announced it all really depends on which players offered new deals actually sign doesn’t it.

Announcement only made a few hours ago but already people know what terms have been offered to the players…


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 20:00:09
Because we actually played with a decent tempo during the run in. I'm hoping he doesn't reset back to default in the summer.

Exactly this.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: kaufman on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 20:02:28
Sorry if I’ve missed it.
It’s the obvious question.
Given that Rob Angus had told someone on here that Williams and Reed were under contract yet it’s not said that we’ve triggered an extension, how were we able to offer more than a 1 year deal?
The twitter page would have been all over the announcement of a new deal signed by either.
It must be a that we triggered an extra year for both.
Apologies if this has already been explained.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 20:14:02
Sorry if I’ve missed it.
It’s the obvious question.
Given that Rob Angus had told someone on here that Williams and Reed were under contract yet it’s not said that we’ve triggered an extension, how were we able to offer more than a 1 year deal?
The twitter page would have been all over the announcement of a new deal signed by either.
It must be a that we triggered an extra year for both.
Apologies if this has already been explained.

Could have agreed in principle to extend and it was put through the day the embargo was removed?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Moss on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 20:20:26
I hope we push the boat out for Payne. He’s worth the wages of 2/3 squad players and worth the gamble if he wants to stay and cash is the issue. Quality not quantity is the way to go imho.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 20:22:03
Dion Conroy in talks with Orient, unsurprisingly.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 20:27:55
I hope we push the boat out for Payne. He’s worth the wages of 2/3 squad players and worth the gamble if he wants to stay and cash is the issue. Quality not quantity is the way to go imho.

Could offer him a juicy promotion, apps and 10 goal bonuses. Incentives are sometime worth more than the contracted wage alone. Those extras can add up.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 20:47:23
Dion Conroy in talks with Orient, unsurprisingly.

I'm in huge shock  :eek: ;)

Going by the first half at Vale, he was already on a Pullman Coach heading for Orient (10 misplaced/loose passes). Second half he was much better with just 1. For me it sums up Conroy a smidge, he wanted to be a Libero player but Baudry showed more pass completion as did Ian and they both were prone to some sloppy passes.

Unfortunately, I think Conroy was always going for the Hollywood pass (which is quite narcissistic really) but it ended up often being  a hospital pass.

He was never really captain material. In fact, I blame whoever it was that gave him the armband permanently because this seemed to impact his game in a negative way. Someone like Caddis should have been first choice at the time (or Doughty if he was/still had been here). So I do have an understanding of "where it may have gone wrong" here for Conroy...almost the reluctant captain. Tossed the armband and with no real guidance or apprenticeship under his erm armband.

Factor in as well some terrible injuries where he certainly proved many wrong professionally in terms of returning to the game and the club takes big credit for standing by him - which is why he probably stood by the club when Town were in the shit last Summer; that's honourable on his part. We probably shouldn't forget that and we can separate a pro footballer from a decent honest person - even if occasionally they are the same thing.

I think in his next move, Dion needs to realise he isn't and never will be a big time Charlie, possibly give up any offer of an armband and just focus on playing his footy. He'll probably thrive more with just that one focus and could even see a player reborn if he stays fit.

I'm not sorry to see him go but it was time to part ways. I certainly wish him well and all the best. Cheers DC


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Frigby Daser on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 20:54:27
Beyond 3rd hand rumours that he demanded to be played, where does all of that from? People write on here as if they know him. He seemed a decent guy when he did the LS pod.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 21:03:53
The next captain will be interesting. Reed?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: MangoRed on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 21:17:29
Good to see Reed and Williams contracted for next season. I don’t see it happening but would hope we go above and beyond  to keep Payne, Egbo or AK be a bonus but again can’t see it. JML and East no shocks, not too shocked Conroy wasn’t offered a deal either- right time for everyone to move on- finished season well and took a lot of shit this season, but was never captain material. Need a proper leader next season, and some experience to back it- similar to the Caddis, Baudry, Grant and Doyle dressing room spine we had in 19/20.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 21:42:01
Can’t we just wish players well and leave it at that when they have been a good servant to the club?  I get it if we are talking about Taylor Curran or Pork Pie Pele, but Conroy has done very little wrong except have a few dodgey periods.

With regards to the captaincy, none of our existing players are vocal organisational leaders, which was the main criticism of Conroy being captain, so why would we be suggesting Payne or Reed? Because they are better players or fans favourites?  Because one thing they ain’t is vocal or organisational.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 21:52:47
I assume people are just picking from our existing players.

The choice from this years squad would be Baudry but who knows if he will be here and if he is how regular he will be


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 24, 2022, 22:47:43
well said Bernie


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Wednesday, May 25, 2022, 03:17:56
Can’t we just wish players well and leave it at that when they have been a good servant to the club?  I get it if we are talking about Taylor Curran or Pork Pie Pele, but Conroy has done very little wrong except have a few dodgey periods.

With regards to the captaincy, none of our existing players are vocal organisational leaders, which was the main criticism of Conroy being captain, so why would we be suggesting Payne or Reed? Because they are better players or fans favourites?  Because one thing they ain’t is vocal or organisational.

If you read what I wrote I did wish him well. I can still say that him being given the armband impacted his game negatively and he may have been more focused if not having that responsibility.

He's a L2 player, maybe a lower L1 player. Not sure why he gets a hall pass over anyone else? Because a few people might be pally with him? It all comes across a bit GWR and their obsession with JS-W...fine, a decent enough guy but just another average footballer.

===

Regards Captaincy...Baudry would likely be the one (if he stays). Think Ellis probably gets the token "club captain" if that's still a thing but matchday captain, possible a new target that comes in and takes the armband. Sean Morrison would be the ticket. Probably wouldn't drop down but I have a feeling he'll sign either a recuperation based contract with Cardiff with a loan option when he's fit again from his ACL. Would be smashing loan to build up some game time :)

That doesn't solve Town's captain problem immediately though :)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, May 25, 2022, 04:42:32
Can’t we just wish players well and leave it at that when they have been a good servant to the club?  I get it if we are talking about Taylor Curran or Pork Pie Pele, but Conroy has done very little wrong except have a few dodgey periods.

With regards to the captaincy, none of our existing players are vocal organisational leaders, which was the main criticism of Conroy being captain, so why would we be suggesting Payne or Reed? Because they are better players or fans favourites?  Because one thing they ain’t is vocal or organisational.

I've heard Ellis may be the next captain but I've no idea if there is any substance behind that so this comment comes with free sachets of salt, like a bag of smiths crisps.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Wednesday, May 25, 2022, 06:57:42
Can’t we just wish players well and leave it at that when they have been a good servant to the club?  I get it if we are talking about Taylor Curran or Pork Pie Pele, but Conroy has done very little wrong except have a few dodgey periods.

With regards to the captaincy, none of our existing players are vocal organisational leaders, which was the main criticism of Conroy being captain, so why would we be suggesting Payne or Reed? Because they are better players or fans favourites?  Because one thing they ain’t is vocal or organisational.

With you on this. Apart from Baudry just no Captain material left in the squad now that Conroy has departed. Remains to be seen if Baudry signs.

I heard weeks ago that a Championship club were tracking Payne, again whether that comes to anything will wait and see.
As for Conroy reduced terms were tabled and both parties mutually walked away. No animosity all positive and respectful and how it should be.

Wouldn’t be surprised if Hunt moves on now, with his location Orient a fit (nothing in this whatsoever just a thought).

Players are on holiday now thus will likely be a few weeks of no activity however the agents are in full swing. Incredible how they operate and network.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Wednesday, May 25, 2022, 07:01:58
Beyond 3rd hand rumours that he demanded to be played, where does all of that from? People write on here as if they know him. He seemed a decent guy when he did the LS pod.

Most of last seasons squad were decent lads and all got on.
Understand they all went out Saturday night as a final get to together.

Unfortunately people make their mind up on players.
Always found all our players to be approachable and down to earth.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, May 25, 2022, 07:07:54
Back in training in about a month. They don't have long to decide before we need to crack on.

Obviously some of the squad will be late additions, need that core together asap


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: fuzzy on Wednesday, May 25, 2022, 07:24:30
In relation to communicating and decision making from a captain, that was one of the glaring things about Brandon Copper when he was here, right from the off, I could hear him directing and warning of closing players


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, May 25, 2022, 07:27:19
In relation to communicating and decision making from a captain, that was one of the glaring things about Brandon Copper when he was here, right from the off, I could hear him directing and warning of closing players

Cooper would be the first of this seasons loans I would try and get back.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Wednesday, May 25, 2022, 07:35:17
A class player in the making and hope that we get first option


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Tails on Wednesday, May 25, 2022, 07:49:09
Cooper would be the first of this seasons loans I would try and get back.

I think if Cooper stays fit we are currently talking about whether we sign him for our League One campaign next season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Wednesday, May 25, 2022, 07:54:52
I can see Hunt leaving and tbh i probably would in his position. Has seen us offer contracts to 2 players who can play in his position and must wonder if he will play much. If Egbo signs he wouldn't be my first choice


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, May 25, 2022, 08:07:31
Hunt is an excellent, solid, versatile defender.

Just not sure if he fits the style we play.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Wednesday, May 25, 2022, 08:32:52
Hunt is an excellent, solid, versatile defender.

Just not sure if he fits the style we play.
Spot on, he must know that


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Tails on Wednesday, May 25, 2022, 08:59:53
I feel like if he does go to Orient (an obvious destination) he will be a threat to us next season so rather selfishly I hope he stays! He is always solid and so versatile, definitely a good option but it does feel like a move would benefit him more. It'll certainly be our loss too.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Wednesday, May 25, 2022, 09:01:27
Not the easiest place to get to for training unless he moves house


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, May 25, 2022, 09:13:11
If you read what I wrote I did wish him well. I can still say that him being given the armband impacted his game negatively and he may have been more focused if not having that responsibility.

He's a L2 player, maybe a lower L1 player. Not sure why he gets a hall pass over anyone else? Because a few people might be pally with him? It all comes across a bit GWR and their obsession with JS-W...fine, a decent enough guy but just another average footballer.

===

Regards Captaincy...Baudry would likely be the one (if he stays). Think Ellis probably gets the token "club captain" if that's still a thing but matchday captain, possible a new target that comes in and takes the armband. Sean Morrison would be the ticket. Probably wouldn't drop down but I have a feeling he'll sign either a recuperation based contract with Cardiff with a loan option when he's fit again from his ACL. Would be smashing loan to build up some game time :)

That doesn't solve Town's captain problem immediately though :)

My post wasn't aimed at you, just generally.  People have their opinions on him, but the decision has been made, and overall his time with us was positive.  Now that we know that he is going, wishing him well is all that needs to be said, no need to pick holes in what was overall a positive and productive stint with us over the past 5 years, especially considering the 2 massive injuries he experienced during that time.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, May 25, 2022, 09:17:42
For the first post...


HAVE BEEN MADE CONTRACT OFFERS
Decisions pending

1. Jojo Wollacott (GK)
2. Akin Odimayo (DRC)
6. Mathieu Baudry (DC)
10. Jack Payne (AMRLC)
18. Mandela Egbo (D/WBR)
24. Rob Hunt (D/WBRL)
29. Harry Parsons (ST)

CONTRACTED BEYOND THIS SUMMER
Contract lengths not announced, but believe most if not all are 2023 expiry

3. Ellis Iandolo (DL/MC)
7. Ben Gladwin (MF)
11. Harry McKirdy (AM/ST)
12. Lewis Ward (GK)
20. Jonny Williams (AMLC)
25. Louis Reed (MC)
28. Ricky Aguiar (MC - 2022)
30. Mo Dabre (MF - 2022)
32. George Cowmeadow (AML/ST)
34. Harrison Minturn (DC)

8. Jordan Lyden (MC) - no contract offer but training with the club to regain fitness

YOUTH PLAYERS
Some may have been released/offered pro terms, the club has not yet announced

31. Donny Gordon
33. Levi Francis
35. Callum Winchcombe
36. Anton Dworzak
37. Harvey Fox
38. Tom Wynn-Davis
39. Jed Afenyo
40. Jacob Bunch


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: donkey on Wednesday, May 25, 2022, 10:16:33
Regarding the captaincy, most successful teams in any sport have captains throughout the squad.  It is an issue that we need to address in the summer.  One captain is not enough.

To be positive, Reed and Williams contracted to next season is brilliant...oh for Payne, too...


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Kinky Tom on Wednesday, May 25, 2022, 11:29:18
If we acheive the unlikely and secure Payne the rest of L2 will be shitting it.

A full pre-season for Reed, Payne and Williams after a season of knowing eachothers games is frightening at our level.  Recruitment so far under the Bens has been, on the whole, good, so hopeful we will be able to fill the rest of the squad with enough quality to get off to a strong start.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Wednesday, May 25, 2022, 11:30:24
I think Reed would make a decent captain. Not all captains are vocal. Some are more 'lead by example'.

Ideally we'll sign a cracking centreback with a bit of experience and big mouth though.

Sean Morrison mentioned would be ideal, buy obviously unlikely budget wise and should easily get a league one team with a bit of a budget to them.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Wednesday, May 25, 2022, 11:34:59
Cooper would be the first of this seasons loans I would try and get back.

Maybe a signing?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Wednesday, May 25, 2022, 11:36:55
I feel like if he does go to Orient (an obvious destination) he will be a threat to us next season so rather selfishly I hope he stays! He is always solid and so versatile, definitely a good option but it does feel like a move would benefit him more. It'll certainly be our loss too.

Depends on the offer.
He will get more if he moves on, don’t forget Wrexham offered him better terms than Swindon.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Wednesday, May 25, 2022, 11:45:58
My post wasn't aimed at you, just generally.  People have their opinions on him, but the decision has been made, and overall his time with us was positive.  Now that we know that he is going, wishing him well is all that needs to be said, no need to pick holes in what was overall a positive and productive stint with us over the past 5 years, especially considering the 2 massive injuries he experienced during that time.

Cracking post. short memory syndrome.
Swindon were good for Conroy and Conroy good for Swindon.
Unbelievable bad luck with potentially 2 career threatening injuries, League Two Winner and nobody to celebrate that success with, not paid yet still got the players rallied round and prepared for the beginning of the season. Always had time with fans let alone the family losing their recent loved one through illness.

Met Conroy numerous times.
Remember my first meet was on a train with my youngest coming back from Morecambe.
You couldn’t have met a more pleasant footballer.

We now move on with our best wishes.
Some of the comments posted recently and on social media platforms almost laughable.
These lads are human beings after all. Can only imagine the dark days recovering from those 2 injuries and thinking will I ever play the game I love again.

Takes courage.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Wednesday, May 25, 2022, 11:47:49
Are people not mentioning possibility of getting Joe Tomlinson back just because they don't think it would be realistic? I'd love to have him back. Local lad as well.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, May 25, 2022, 11:53:33
Are people not mentioning possibility of getting Joe Tomlinson back just because they don't think it would be realistic? I'd love to have him back. Local lad as well.

With P’boro going down and Tomlinson looking more than capable of playing in L1 - I think the assumption is, he’ll be playing regularly for them next season.

Most Posh fans who I saw comment on the loan all seemed to say he was being loaned out to get some game time, rather than being surplus to requirements.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Tails on Wednesday, May 25, 2022, 12:11:33
Depends on the offer.
He will get more if he moves on, don’t forget Wrexham offered him better terms than Swindon.

Wrexham will offer more than a lot of league one & two.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Wednesday, May 25, 2022, 12:14:15
With P’boro going down and Tomlinson looking more than capable of playing in L1 - I think the assumption is, he’ll be playing regularly for them next season.

Most Posh fans who I saw comment on the loan all seemed to say he was being loaned out to get some game time, rather than being surplus to requirements.

Thought that might be the case, unfortunately.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Wednesday, May 25, 2022, 12:47:12
I've heard Ellis may be the next captain but I've no idea if there is any substance behind that so this comment comes with free sachets of salt, like a bag of smiths crisps.


I miss those the blue sachets. Can you still get them? Weren't they called "Salt 'n Shake". I have a feeling my late Nan used to by them by the caterload, along with Royster's and 24 packs of Rio  :)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Wednesday, May 25, 2022, 12:57:59
...overall a positive and productive stint with us over the past 5 years, especially considering the 2 massive injuries he experienced during that time.

Absolutely agree and I made reference to this too. He proved a lot of people wrong in terms of coming back professionally. After his second injury I thought he was toast as a pro player (he may have at moments thought this too) but I'm thankful the club stuck by him and gave him the chance to come back. I also think this is a big part as to why he stuck around last Summer - some good karma.

I hope he goes on to end his career injury free and has measured success within his own personal parameters, except when playing versus Town!

I think everyone agrees it was probably the right time to move on though :)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: JoeMezz on Wednesday, May 25, 2022, 16:35:03
I've heard Ellis may be the next captain but I've no idea if there is any substance behind that so this comment comes with free sachets of salt, like a bag of smiths crisps.

I’ve also heard this.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Pookemon on Wednesday, May 25, 2022, 17:46:26
Depends on the offer.
He will get more if he moves on, don’t forget Wrexham offered him better terms than Swindon.

Of course Wrexham will offer more, that is of no surprise whatsoever.  Salford and Stockport would too and we shouldn't be trying to compete with them.

Conroy's decent at this level and the abuse he, and others have had this year from our Neanderthal element was depressing and thoroughly undeserved.    Good luck to him and hope he gets a cracking deal and stays injury free.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Wednesday, May 25, 2022, 19:29:25
Of course Wrexham will offer more, that is of no surprise whatsoever.  Salford and Stockport would too and we shouldn't be trying to compete with them.

Conroy's decent at this level and the abuse he, and others have had this year from our Neanderthal element was depressing and thoroughly undeserved.    Good luck to him and hope he gets a cracking deal and stays injury free.

The Wrexham offer previously was before the Hollywood Cowboys.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Wednesday, May 25, 2022, 19:30:54
Absolutely agree and I made reference to this too. He proved a lot of people wrong in terms of coming back professionally. After his second injury I thought he was toast as a pro player (he may have at moments thought this too) but I'm thankful the club stuck by him and gave him the chance to come back. I also think this is a big part as to why he stuck around last Summer - some good karma.

I hope he goes on to end his career injury free and has measured success within his own personal parameters, except when playing versus Town!

I think everyone agrees it was probably the right time to move on though :)

Definitely time to move on.
5 seasons in the modern game is going on testimonial heights 😂


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Wednesday, May 25, 2022, 19:57:52
Definitely time to move on.
5 seasons in the modern game is going on testimonial heights 😂

It certainly is in the era of 1yr and 2yr deals in the bottom two leagues being commonplace. If any player gets offered a 3yr deal (even if lower per month) at any club, they would be wise to snap it up on a purely job security basis.

I'm sure Dion will more than oblige when asked about any potential returns/exhibition/charity match etc.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Thursday, May 26, 2022, 17:11:20
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this is the first time in a long while where the current squad doesn't contain a player for which a transfer fee was paid (now that Conroy has left)?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Thursday, May 26, 2022, 17:13:55
We paid money for Conroy?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, May 27, 2022, 08:31:09
We paid money for Conroy?
We did, lots of "free transfers" actually arent free and involve a fee of some kind. I think Power stated we paid between £50k and £100k for him.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: cdakev on Friday, May 27, 2022, 17:30:20
Rob Hunt is definately leaving


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: molepar on Friday, May 27, 2022, 17:32:48
Rob Hunt is definately leaving
Where has that come from?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, May 27, 2022, 17:35:18
Rob Hunt is definately leaving

Orient/Wrexham/Charlton


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Friday, May 27, 2022, 17:43:52
Orient/Wrexham/Charlton

Orient.

Allegedly.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, May 27, 2022, 18:43:33
Orient.

Had to be really didn't it.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: river monster on Wednesday, June 1, 2022, 15:42:54
Williams starting for Wales.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, June 1, 2022, 16:57:12
Jonny Williams scores for Wales.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, June 1, 2022, 16:57:40
Jonny Williams scores for Wales.
Good lad. That will raise his selling price ;)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, June 1, 2022, 17:18:21
https://twitter.com/PremierSportsTV/status/1532048545812844547?t=64yMNU5gaVWA2MTfTm7AGQ&s=19


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: adje on Wednesday, June 1, 2022, 17:21:35
https://twitter.com/PremierSportsTV/status/1532048545812844547?t=64yMNU5gaVWA2MTfTm7AGQ&s=19
What a beaut!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Wednesday, June 1, 2022, 17:21:59
Tuned in on Sky and couldn't see Williams - Turns out they were showing Wales Vs Austria highlights! 😖


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: adje on Wednesday, June 1, 2022, 17:46:56
Williams,as is usual,was subbed off


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Exiled Bob on Wednesday, June 1, 2022, 18:13:10
He scored though.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, June 1, 2022, 18:16:37
Jojo starts for Ghana.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: adje on Wednesday, June 1, 2022, 19:09:28
He scored though.
He did,and it was a cracker


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, June 2, 2022, 10:23:38
Jonny Williams scores for Wales.
My mate is a man U fan and he showed me this post on their forum.

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/june-internationals-wc-qualifiers-and-nations-league.470649/#post-28947090
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How is Jonny Williams only playing for Swindon Town, see plenty of far less talented players in the Championship every week.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: ThreeDrawsMentality on Friday, June 3, 2022, 10:28:41
Egbo been training with our sports scientists. May be a good sign? Who knows


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Friday, June 3, 2022, 10:33:10
Will the sports scientist be staying or following Garner🤔


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, June 7, 2022, 08:38:17
So now Wales have qualified for Qatar, how long are we likely to be losing Jonny Williams for? For me, if Jack Payne doesn't sign a new contract for us, I am fully expecting Williams to slot into the role that Payne played and so losing him for a lengthy period leading up to Christmas isn't ideal. Gladwin never really showed very much after he came back from injury and seemed to almost be utilised as a defensive midfielder at times in his 'cameos'

Obviously we've still to do our summer shopping so the squad should hopefully be nicely stocked but something to consider.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Tuesday, June 7, 2022, 08:43:37
So now Wales have qualified for Qatar, how long are we likely to be losing Jonny Williams for? For me, if Jack Payne doesn't sign a new contract for us, I am fully expecting Williams to slot into the role that Payne played and so losing him for a lengthy period leading up to Christmas isn't ideal. Gladwin never really showed very much after he came back from injury and seemed to almost be utilised as a defensive midfielder at times in his 'cameos'

Obviously we've still to do our summer shopping so the squad should hopefully be nicely stocked but something to consider.
I wouldn't worry too much as the relationship the club has seems to be that he will not start every game. When himself and Gladwin were rotating at the begining of the season i thought it worked lovely. Once Gladwin got injured Williamds looked fucked starting every week


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, June 7, 2022, 08:44:25
So now Wales have qualified for Qatar, how long are we likely to be losing Jonny Williams for?

3 games :)

I'd guess a couple of weeks before, however long they are in, a week after

So probably a month?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, June 7, 2022, 08:51:19
I wouldn't worry too much as the relationship the club has seems to be that he will not start every game. When himself and Gladwin were rotating at the begining of the season i thought it worked lovely. Once Gladwin got injured Williamds looked fucked starting every week

He did, but then played over 100 minutes at Vale Park. I did hear on the LS Podcast that he has to be very carefully managed with training/matches etc, but I personally thought he did slowly appear to be getting towards looking like he could get through full 90 minute matches as the season drew to a close. I'm hoping with a proper pre-season under his belt we might see more from the little Welshman next season.

Oh and i'm not worried Shrivvy, i'm confident the club are managing him perfectly. :)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, June 7, 2022, 08:52:09
3 games :)

I'd guess a couple of weeks before, however long they are in, a week after

So probably a month?

haha, I knew someone would say 3 games. :)

Good chunk of the season however.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, June 7, 2022, 08:52:57
3 games :)

I'd guess a couple of weeks before, however long they are in, a week after

So probably a month?

Probably closer 6 weeks when you take into account the training camp and warm up games etc.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, June 7, 2022, 09:25:16
Who actually made the final call (so to speak) on Williams game time?

Is the way he has been used likely to change now the manager will be different?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: adje on Tuesday, June 7, 2022, 09:38:16
3 games :)

I'd guess a couple of weeks before, however long they are in, a week after

So probably a month?
Wales will sail through that group I reckon. But I'll be surprised if JW features


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Power to people on Wednesday, June 8, 2022, 11:32:00
Who actually made the final call (so to speak) on Williams game time?

Is the way he has been used likely to change now the manager will be different?

Its between him and the manager and the sports science staff, last season (can we say that yet ?) he played the most games he has played in a season, so they must be managing him well, I expect next season (assuming he is still confident he can play for Wales playing in L2) he will play more games for us and be even more of a handful for defences.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: adje on Wednesday, June 8, 2022, 18:06:18
Not selected tonight in what mainly looks very much a second string


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Samdy Gray on Friday, June 10, 2022, 19:14:54
For once I'm actually ITK.

Baudry signed on for another year.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Friday, June 10, 2022, 19:18:56
At last some positive news  :clap:


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Friday, June 10, 2022, 19:34:34
For once I'm actually ITK.

Baudry signed on for another year.

Egbo has also signed on so I’m lead to believe


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, June 10, 2022, 19:37:26
Egbo has also signed on so I’m lead to believe

Great news if true.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Friday, June 10, 2022, 19:38:08
…on reduced terms, naturally


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Friday, June 10, 2022, 20:02:16
Egbo has also signed on so I’m lead to believe

That is fantastic news, if over the line.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Quagmire on Friday, June 10, 2022, 20:08:43
…on reduced terms, naturally

 :D


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Berniman on Friday, June 10, 2022, 20:27:05
Egbo has also signed on so I’m lead to believe

Source?







Only Joking, I have heard this to be the case too :D.  Good news


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Friday, June 10, 2022, 22:50:27
Egbo has also signed on so I’m lead to believe

Soldiering on with the signings then! A good yolk should always be slightly runny.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Saturday, June 11, 2022, 09:50:39
Five subs being allowed might not make much difference to the approach of the more stubborn one dimensional coaches.
Must be an area where marginal gains could be made in exploring options for losing with 15 or 20 to go or defending a lead in a tight game for example.

Not an easy balance I guess between ensuring squad depth while striving for that extra quality as well.
Last season we had the quality but not the depth which probably cost us in the end.

I wonder if the analytical approach to data allows players in the bench warmer that can make a difference category to be identified.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Quagmire on Saturday, June 11, 2022, 16:44:28
Egbo
Baudry
Parsons

All signed for next season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Saturday, June 11, 2022, 16:47:12
Egbo
Baudry
Parsons

All signed for next season.
Payne 50/50  :eek: That's bout 40% more than i hoped


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Pericardinho on Saturday, June 11, 2022, 16:52:09
So then, as it stands, we could field the following team in pre season? definitely a base to work on and a lot better than last summer! assume we will have plenty of new players through the door by Melksham too.

Ward

Iandolo
Baudry
Minturn
Egbo

Gladwin
Reed
Aguiar

Williams
Parsons
McKirdy


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Hyabb17 on Saturday, June 11, 2022, 16:58:54
Payne 50/50  :eek: That's bout 40% more than i hoped

Payne will be the player with the new home kit announcement.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Quagmire on Saturday, June 11, 2022, 17:04:41
Payne will be the player with the new home kit announcement.

He won’t - Reed, Gladwin and Williams are.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Saturday, June 11, 2022, 17:05:42
He won’t - Reed, Gladwin and Williams are.

Kieron Freeman surely?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Saturday, June 11, 2022, 17:10:17
So then, as it stands, we could field the following team in pre season? definitely a base to work on and a lot better than last summer! assume we will have plenty of new players through the door by Melksham too.

Ward

Iandolo
Baudry
Minturn
Egbo

Gladwin
Reed
Aguiar

Williams
Parsons
McKirdy

That looks alright for the most part.

Stand out issues are centre back and striker. Obviously we will get some loans in but probably not until the end of pre season. I also imagine the WC being during the season will have the knock on effect that the top players will rest more in the off season and a lot more of the big clubs sending the under 23s or a select XI to pre season friendlies.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, June 12, 2022, 07:47:21
Looks promising according to McGirty



Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bogus Dave on Sunday, June 12, 2022, 07:50:27
Name a more iconic duo than Audrey and ‘being fooled by fake social media accounts’


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, June 12, 2022, 07:57:20
Well, if you can explain, in layman’s terms, how to spot a fake one


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Sunday, June 12, 2022, 07:58:27
 ::) :headhurts:


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Sunday, June 12, 2022, 07:59:28
Well, if you can explain, in layman’s terms, how to spot a fake one

I can't believe people actually go to so much effort to create these accounts.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, June 12, 2022, 08:01:11
I don’t have tik tok so how do you tell it’s bogus


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Sunday, June 12, 2022, 09:12:04
Quote from: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey
I don’t have tik tok so how do you tell it’s bogus

usually how many followers they have, spelling in their @ handel and when they joined.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, June 12, 2022, 09:39:15
Maybe I’m just old and naive and find it hard to believe would spend their time being spunk bubbles.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Sunday, June 12, 2022, 09:50:55
To be fair they probably find it hard to believe we sit chatting shit on forums disagreeing with people all day long but here i am


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Sunday, June 12, 2022, 14:31:41
usually how many followers they have, spelling in their @ handel and when they joined.

And I think in some cases a blue tick? (No idea about Tik-Tok mind you)


Title: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Sunday, June 12, 2022, 14:55:11
yeah, blue tick for confirmed big celebs. But at Swindon Town level unlikely.

don't talk about tiktok. I'm only just catching on to Instagram


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Sunday, June 12, 2022, 15:01:15
yeah, bite tick for confirmed big celebs. But at Swindon Town level unlikely.

don't talk about tiktok. I'm only just catching on to Instagram

The few people I follow on Instagram, Jack Payne, Manny Egbo and Harry McKirdy - as well as funster Ivo Graham have blue ticks. Not sure if Tik Tok is the same.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: adje on Sunday, June 12, 2022, 15:29:05
On another subject,looks like we don't have to worry about Jonny Williams getting injured with Wales. Not kicked a ball in 270 minutes!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Sunday, June 12, 2022, 15:34:07
On another subject,looks like we don't have to worry about Jonny Williams getting injured with Wales. Not kicked a ball in 270 minutes!

Maybe he’s injured!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: adje on Sunday, June 12, 2022, 15:35:33
Maybe he’s injured!
🙂


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, June 16, 2022, 09:32:25
If Manny Egbo does indeed sign a new contract surely we need a ditty for him. 'I am the Walrus' was swimming around my head whilst travelling on the Lizzy Line yesterday and surely is the ideal song to belt out a homage to him. Something like

'He is the Egbo
He is the Egbo
Oh Manny Egbo

goo goo j'oob' (Repeat x4)

Surely nice and easy to get going?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: ThreeDrawsMentality on Thursday, June 16, 2022, 09:48:26
In the EFL's official retained list, Egbo is showing concurrently as contracted for next season and out of contract + offered reengagement. Hoping it's the former rather than the latter!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Thursday, June 16, 2022, 09:51:55
If Manny Egbo does indeed sign a new contract surely we need a ditty for him. 'I am the Walrus' was swimming around my head whilst travelling on the Lizzy Line yesterday and surely is the ideal song to belt out a homage to him. Something like

'He is the Egbo
He is the Egbo
Oh Manny Egbo

goo goo j'oob' (Repeat x4)

Surely nice and easy to get going?

Bo bo, bo bo bo bo, bo bo bo bo
Bo bo Manny Egbo


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, June 16, 2022, 09:53:20
Freeeeeee Mandela Egbo....


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, June 16, 2022, 09:57:10
In the EFL's official retained list, Egbo is showing concurrently as contracted for next season and out of contract + offered reengagement. Hoping it's the former rather than the latter!

Curiously on page 111 in the free transfer section Dabre, Payne and Jojo appear with no contract offers next to their names. I thought the club announced these guys had been offered new contracts?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, June 16, 2022, 09:57:28
Freeeeeee Mandela Egbo....
I would prefer if he had the squad number 3 for next season making it "3 Mandelo Egbo"....


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, June 16, 2022, 09:59:11
I would prefer if he had the squad number 3 for next season making it "3 Mandelo Egbo"....

Good work Sir....


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Red Frog on Thursday, June 16, 2022, 11:04:15
I would prefer if he had the squad number 3 for next season making it "3 Mandelo Egbo"....

 :clap: The TEF's smoking this morning.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: donkey on Thursday, June 16, 2022, 12:24:08
I would prefer if he had the squad number 3 for next season making it "3 Mandelo Egbo"....

I salute you, sir!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 04:36:47
Can see the likes of Dabre and Aguiar getting a lot of game time next season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 06:50:36
Quote from: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey
Can see the likes of Dabre and Aguiar getting a lot of game time next season.

why?

not having a go, can't see where you are coming from.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: MangoRed on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 06:59:49
why?

not having a go, can't see where you are coming from.

I’d say he’s basing it off the fact we’ve just given our number 2 the job, after 5 weeks of trying to get others, but chances are we couldn’t get them due to £ being offered, which probably gives him the sense we won’t be making many big moves in the window money wise.

Also, even though it’s a fairly injury prone squad- don’t be expecting a much bigger squad this season. Will be the bare minimum once more I think. Quality > Quanity I prefer…. as long as we have more than enough quality 😂


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 07:01:05
Can see the likes of Taylor Curran and Rockin’ Robin getting a lot of game time next season.
Based on absolutely fuck all logic


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 07:05:05
that's illogical thinking though imo.

the squad was too thin last season and cost us promotion.

we allegedly have a 40% budget increase to address this

It is clear we are looking at how to make the club sustainable, Sandro was brought in to find some pigs to trust for the market.

I guess it comes down to what % of the squad are young hopefuls v some more experienced heads. which I think has been Duke's point for a while

time will tell if you are right. not very long to wait either


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Pookemon on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 07:27:55
I think Aud's probably right, but only because Dabre barely played at all, so it's not difficult for him to get more game time, and Aguiar looked promising and was playing fairly regularly but only for half a season.

I don't think they will be in first choice 11 but will be part of the squad.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 08:10:55
I can't see them playing ahead of Reed, Williams, Gladwin & Payne. I expect the picking of the midfield to be very similar to last season (bar the odd loaney chucked in) it is in defence and up front where we will see most changes I reckon.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 08:14:37
I can't see them playing ahead of Reed, Williams, Gladwin & Payne. I expect the picking of the midfield to be very similar to last season (bar the odd loaney chucked in) it is in defence and up front where we will see most changes I reckon.

Confident of Payne staying then?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 08:17:38
I can't see them playing ahead of Reed, Williams, Gladwin & Payne. I expect the picking of the midfield to be very similar to last season (bar the odd loaney chucked in) it is in defence and up front where we will see most changes I reckon.

Big assumption Payne will be staying of course but on the whole I agree. You've got to think that Scott Lindsey must be kicking himself that we were not able to recruit more strikers and have a deeper squad as that in the end ultimately killed us in the play-offs.

I guess as player contracts are up end of June, that's when clubs are going to be really busy with recruitment. Do we think we'll get news this week on the potential contract extensions?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 08:22:50
Confident of Payne staying then?
If what Payne has actually told people then yes he will be staying, but football is weird and fickle and it only takes one offer to change that.

Currently he says he is happy at the club.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 08:23:28
I’d say he’s basing it off the fact we’ve just given our number 2 the job, after 5 weeks of trying to get others, but chances are we couldn’t get them due to £ being offered, which probably gives him the sense we won’t be making many big moves in the window money wise.

Also, even though it’s a fairly injury prone squad- don’t be expecting a much bigger squad this season. Will be the bare minimum once more I think. Quality > Quanity I prefer…. as long as we have more than enough quality 😂

Or it could be that the club have been thrifty with the manager situation which will benefit the player budget? So the compensation received from Garner and (I'm assuming) Marshall will hopefully go into the player budget. It's not loads granted but as a famous supermarket always says, every little helps!

I'm hoping after last year's transfer success that the club might pleasantly surprise us and be able to bring in a top notch first 11 with some decent depth. We can utilise 5 subs now so no point in having bugger all on the bench this year.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Pericardinho on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 08:31:31
If what Payne has actually told people then yes he will be staying, but football is weird and fickle and it only takes one offer to change that.

Currently he says he is happy at the club.

I'm sure he is happy and I'm sure he does WANT to stay. My concern is, it's well documented he was on approx 5k per week with Lincoln still paying a share of his wage.

There's plenty of league one clubs who'd consider giving him that. If we're only offering 2-3k then no matter how much he wants to be here, he'll be off.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 08:31:54
Or the fact we are a league 2 side with a club that are clearing historic debts, planning future development and being very sensible?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 08:33:03
Confident of Payne staying then?

Anything can happen as we have seen but yes, i reckon he will be here.  More of a chance of Payne playing than Dabre getting more significant game time.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 08:35:21
I'm sure he is happy and I'm sure he does WANT to stay. My concern is, it's well documented he was on approx 5k per week with Lincoln still paying a share of his wage.

There's plenty of league one clubs who'd consider giving him that. If we're only offering 2-3k then no matter how much he wants to be here, he'll be off.

Post pandemic and the rise in cost of living - I can’t imagine there are (m)any clubs willing to offer Payne 5k a week - no offence to him and not a reflection on his talent. Just how much the world has changed since he signed his last contract.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 08:39:39
Big assumption Payne will be staying of course but on the whole I agree. You've got to think that Scott Lindsey must be kicking himself that we were not able to recruit more strikers and have a deeper squad as that in the end ultimately killed us in the play-offs.

I guess as player contracts are up end of June, that's when clubs are going to be really busy with recruitment. Do we think we'll get news this week on the potential contract extensions?

I reckon those that have signed already will be announced over the coming week.  I could see Baudry, Parsons, Egbo and perhaps Payne announced.  There is a lot of fans positive that the HC has finally been announced but a lot of fans negative about the fact that it is an internal appointment, so I would think that they will want to spam us with a lot of positive news now - especially now the new media guy from Southampton has been hired.  He probably has the tweets already lined up :D


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 08:46:02
I'm sure he is happy and I'm sure he does WANT to stay. My concern is, it's well documented he was on approx 5k per week with Lincoln still paying a share of his wage.

There's plenty of league one clubs who'd consider giving him that. If we're only offering 2-3k then no matter how much he wants to be here, he'll be off.

League 1 clubs considering giving them that and actually making an offer are two different things though.  If he has no concrete offers then it comes down to does he gamble and potentially end up in a location where he is not settled and accepting similar to what we are offering, or does he just take what we are offering, remained settled and not have to uproot again.  He knows he is one of the main men here so will play, likes the group and enjoys the training.  There is a lot to say about all of these things for another year or 2 of being settled and enjoying your day job vs an extra grand a week.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 08:48:59
I reckon those that have signed already will be announced over the coming week.  I could see Baudry, Parsons, Egbo and perhaps Payne announced.  There is a lot of fans positive that the HC has finally been announced but a lot of fans negative about the fact that it is an internal appointment, so I would think that they will want to spam us with a lot of positive news now - especially now the new media guy from Southampton has been hired.  He probably has the tweets already lined up :D

It's not James Spencer is it? :) ;)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 08:52:36
League 1 clubs considering giving them that and actually making an offer are two different things though.  If he has no concrete offers then it comes down to does he gamble and potentially end up in a location where he is not settled and accepting similar to what we are offering, or does he just take what we are offering, remained settled and not have to uproot again.  He knows he is one of the main men here so will play, likes the group and enjoys the training.  There is a lot to say about all of these things for another year or 2 of being settled and enjoying your day job vs an extra grand a week.
Exactly this.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Riddick on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 08:53:22
I can't see them playing ahead of Reed, Williams, Gladwin & Payne. I expect the picking of the midfield to be very similar to last season (bar the odd loaney chucked in) it is in defence and up front where we will see most changes I reckon.

Depends on game. I actually think we need another proper midfielder in there. There were games last season we looked better with Reed and Lyden, and just one of Williams/Gladwin/Payne in the three. Same was true in the Wellens season. Grant and Doughty were the main two, with Anderson/DJ as a 10. But sometimes Lyden in there helped.

I think we need another 'aggressive' box to box player in there honestly. Too often it was easy to get around Gladwin/Williams/Payne as none of them have the best legs, or if they do they get brushed off too easily (payne).

So an East upgrade would be a big deal i think. Obv i guess Lyden is still with us, if ever fit.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Pericardinho on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 08:56:27
League 1 clubs considering giving them that and actually making an offer are two different things though.  If he has no concrete offers then it comes down to does he gamble and potentially end up in a location where he is not settled and accepting similar to what we are offering, or does he just take what we are offering, remained settled and not have to uproot again.  He knows he is one of the main men here so will play, likes the group and enjoys the training.  There is a lot to say about all of these things for another year or 2 of being settled and enjoying your day job vs an extra grand a week.

Good post and let's hope you're right.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 08:56:52
It's not James Spencer is it? :) ;)

I expect the new guy to stick at what he is good at, maybe others should take a leaf out of that book :D Oh and not to get personal and agressive on SM when important but difficult questions are asked..


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 08:59:54
Depends on game. I actually think we need another proper midfielder in there. There were games last season we looked better with Reed and Lyden, and just one of Williams/Gladwin/Payne in the three. Same was true in the Wellens season. Grant and Doughty were the main two, with Anderson/DJ as a 10. But sometimes Lyden in there helped.

I think we need another 'aggressive' box to box player in there honestly. Too often it was easy to get around Gladwin/Williams/Payne as none of them have the best legs, or if they do they get brushed off too easily (payne).

So an East upgrade would be a big deal i think. Obv i guess Lyden is still with us, if ever fit.

Agreed, but this was in response to Aguiar and Dabre playing more.  I do think we need tougher enforcer type midfielder, which based on Lindsey's early interview, sounds like he probably agrees which is positive

We were way too nice sometimes last season


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 09:00:26
Depends on game. I actually think we need another proper midfielder in there. There were games last season we looked better with Reed and Lyden, and just one of Williams/Gladwin/Payne in the three. Same was true in the Wellens season. Grant and Doughty were the main two, with Anderson/DJ as a 10. But sometimes Lyden in there helped.

I think we need another 'aggressive' box to box player in there honestly. Too often it was easy to get around Gladwin/Williams/Payne as none of them have the best legs, or if they do they get brushed off too easily (payne).

So an East upgrade would be a big deal i think. Obv i guess Lyden is still with us, if ever fit.

If we could just permanently fix Lyden he's be a huge option to have but as it stands he's just too unreliable. I can only imagine how frustrating it is for him as he just can never get going before an injury setback occurs sadly.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 09:04:47
I expect the new guy to stick at what he is good at, maybe others should take a leaf out of that book :D Oh and not to get personal and agressive on SM when important but difficult questions are asked..

Being our media manager is something I could never do. If it was just posting stuff on the website then fine, but having to do the same statements across multiple social media platforms as well is tricky.

I think you have to have a certain character about you, for example on twitter when the club is posting updates about shirt sponsors, kit releases etc the immediate responses are 'announce a manager', 'what about a manager' 'Are we signing any players' etc etc. I don't think I'd have the mental resolve to not tell these people to Foxtrot Oscar. :)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Pericardinho on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 09:09:00
You just ignore it though don't you. No matter how much you want to 'retaliate'

ASD has shown a lack of professionalism on a number of occasions running the SM accounts.





Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Riddick on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 09:11:36
Agreed, but this was in response to Aguiar and Dabre playing more.  I do think we need tougher enforcer type midfielder, which based on Lindsey's early interview, sounds like he probably agrees which is positive

We were way too nice sometimes last season

I think Aguiar showed real glimpses last season. I hope he kicks on. An eye for a goal, he chased and harried. Looked liked he needed more time to get the pace of league football. But hopeful for the lad.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 09:17:41
You just ignore it though don't you. No matter how much you want to 'retaliate'

ASD has shown a lack of professionalism on a number of occasions running the SM accounts.





That would be the challenge mate, having the strength of character to be able to ignore it. I definitely don't have it for sure.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 09:18:30
That would be the challenge mate, having the strength of character to be able to ignore it. I definitely don't have it for sure.
In his defence it does look like ASD has realised this too


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 09:19:45
You just ignore it though don't you. No matter how much you want to 'retaliate'

ASD has shown a lack of professionalism on a number of occasions running the SM accounts.





Must have missed this. Biting to idiots, or?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 09:37:05
Keeping Reed, Williams and McKirdy is even more important now. If they were to get sold before the start of the season then I really feel the mood could get a bit toxic.

Of the players we’ve offered contracts to, Parsons is the question for me. Is he really going to get any game time for us? He’s just not ever shown any evidence of being at the level required. Is it really in his best interests to remain at the club?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 09:41:49
Keeping Reed, Williams and McKirdy is even more important now. If they were to get sold before the start of the season then I really feel the mood could get a bit toxic.

Of the players we’ve offered contracts to, Parsons is the question for me. Is he really going to get any game time for us? He’s just not ever shown any evidence of being at the level required. Is it really in his best interests to remain at the club?
Agree keeping those is huge. I think with Parsons there is a bit of what happens if he does a Twine about him. Worth hanging on to and having a look


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 09:41:57
Of the players we’ve offered contracts to, Parsons is the question for me. Is he really going to get any game time for us? He’s just not ever shown any evidence of being at the level required. Is it really in his best interests to remain at the club?
Garner said in a couple of interviews last season that Parsons was the best finisher at the club, yet when he played him he never played him in a stiking position, always more of an attacking midfielder ala Twine.

So far Parsons has yet to impress me but he did very well at Chippenham when played as a striker where he got 5 goals in 7 games.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 09:46:41
Garner said in a couple of interviews last season that Parsons was the best finisher at the club, yet when he played him he never played him in a stiking position, always more of an attacking midfielder ala Twine.

So far Parsons has yet to impress me but he did very well at Chippenham when played as a striker where he got 5 goals in 7 games.

I think the problem was the system required the player up top on his own to have a bit more strength about him than Parsons, who would probably benefit from more of a four four two partnership system.

Could have been that famous 'Plan B' that every man and his dog complained Garner was lacking. 


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 09:50:39
Garner said in a couple of interviews last season that Parsons was the best finisher at the club, yet when he played him he never played him in a stiking position, always more of an attacking midfielder ala Twine.

So far Parsons has yet to impress me but he did very well at Chippenham when played as a striker where he got 5 goals in 7 games.
With Twine he clearly always had technical ability, Parsons however has never shown similar quality.  Unfair to judge him on his cameos but he’s never made any impact when he has played for me and just don’t really see how he will get a look in.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 09:52:04
If it was just posting stuff on the website then fine, but having to do the same statements across multiple social media platforms as well is tricky.

I'd have thought there would be a cross platform one push and it goes to FB, Twitter and wherever. But I've never really compared posts across SM platforms so maybe it is done individually.

I'd imagine its more this that gets irritating, though I have on occasion added to it!

> Today's Tuesday Town fans

- Announce Salah
- Lindsey Out!
- Worse than Power
- When's the club shop open
- For free streams..
- Foolproof fixed betting

Bet its hard to turn off the "aimed at me personally" aspect


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 09:53:35
Parsons I've seen glimpses but nowhere near enough yet.

He's hardly played, and has just completed his first year - no way can you judge him yet! Not that anyone has.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 10:08:55
I think the problem was the system required the player up top on his own to have a bit more strength about him than Parsons, who would probably benefit from more of a four four two partnership system.

Could have been that famous 'Plan B' that every man and his dog complained Garner was lacking. 
Yes you are right, Parsons blatantly doesn't have the strength (or skillset) to play as a lone striker which we played in the main last season, McKirdy has pace so can play the wide striker role as he did so well with Barry doing similar on the other side.

Parsons game is not about pace as Twines wasn't but Twine could always find a pass out of nowhere even in his early days he was just too weak physically at times, something he worked on to his benefit while at Newport and it worked wonders.

But with Twine you make a formation around him in the trequartista role, you dont shoehorn him into a position.

Parsons felt shoehorned into the team in positions he was tactically unable to play like wide left or attacking midfield, which is just not his game.

He could do well if played as a 2nd striker off a big man but we do not play that way and unlikely to in the near future either so maybe he would be better off going out on loan for the season (or 6 months) to a team that will play to his strengths like Chippenham/Hungerford etc.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 10:12:20
I think the problem was the system required the player up top on his own to have a bit more strength about him than Parsons, who would probably benefit from more of a four four two partnership system.

Could have been that famous 'Plan B' that every man and his dog complained Garner was lacking. 
Agree, he looks very lightweight. Hopefully a longer loan at a higher level thios season


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 10:40:53
Garner said in a couple of interviews last season that Parsons was the best finisher at the club, yet when he played him he never played him in a stiking position, always more of an attacking midfielder ala Twine.

So far Parsons has yet to impress me but he did very well at Chippenham when played as a striker where he got 5 goals in 7 games.

That was probably as the rest of the squad weren't particularly good at finishing so by default he was the best JJ :)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 11:49:12
That was probably as the rest of the squad weren't particularly good at finishing so by default he was the best JJ :)
It could be but that was when we had Simpson, McKirdy, Gilbert and Payne.

Actually looking at that and then adding Barry and Davison....you are right!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: RWB Robin on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 12:24:39
....and yet we were the highest scoring team in league 2!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 12:31:20
....and yet we were the highest scoring team in league 2!
Absolutely we were, which is weird as at times it didn't feel so.

I havent seen the chances created vs goals or shots on target/off target/goals but we did seem to miss a fair few good chances, as most sides do at this level, but it just "feels" as though it should have been better to me.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 12:33:05
....and yet we were the highest scoring team in league 2!

Shhhh that sounds remarkably like positivity, it appears that such an outlook is entirely banned on this forum at the moment.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 12:43:07
Egbo gone Charlton


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Pookemon on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 12:44:35
Absolutely we were, which is weird as at times it didn't feel so.

I havent seen the chances created vs goals or shots on target/off target/goals but we did seem to miss a fair few good chances, as most sides do at this level, but it just "feels" as though it should have been better to me.

Mainly to do with the away form.  At home we were decent in patches, particularly at the end but if you only saw home games you would think it was a bit meh!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 12:44:44
Egbo gone Charlton
No great surprise, actually a friend of Garner isn’t he?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 12:44:51
Egbo gone Charlton

Bugger.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 12:45:24
No great surprise, actually a friend of Garner isn’t he?
Frustrating as he has agreed to stay by all accounts


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 12:47:06
Frustrating as he has agreed to stay by all accounts

Yeah, Garner has swooped in and taken advantage of the situation, can't blame him..


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Riddick on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 12:47:34
Frustrating as he has agreed to stay by all accounts

I had been told that as well.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 12:48:16
I had been told he had agreed a deal to stay only last week, very disappointed but don't blame him.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: JoeMezz on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 12:49:21
Reed will be next


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Swindon Please Win on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 12:49:51
That's a really disappointing one.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 12:50:19
If Garner takes half our squad with him he goes from a meh to a proper villain.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Riddick on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 12:51:28
I had been told he had agreed a deal to stay only last week, very disappointed but don't blame him.

Absolutely can't blame him. But Garner had been at Charlton prior to his agreement with us, shame they couldn't get that done, instead of having to wait.

Honestly the only one i would be bothered to lose is Reed.

McKirdy had a good season, but i worry about his ability to replicate it. I know lots love Payne, but given the guy is out of contract, and could have left for free last summer, there are hardly people knocking the door down for him.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 12:52:11
If Garner takes half our squad with him he goes from a meh to a proper villain.
Reed, Payne, Williams and McKirdy, take any of them and he turns from a nothing annoying ex manager to being on my hate list.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Moss on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 12:53:30
Egbo gone Charlton

Where did you see this?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Riddick on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 12:54:03
Reed, Williams and McKirdy, take any of them and he turns from a nothing annoying ex manager to being on my hate list.

Well from memory Williams and Egbo were very much Garner players, having worked with them previously. I don't see Williams getting another chance at lg1 though.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Swindon Please Win on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 12:54:25
Where did you see this?

https://twitter.com/CAFCofficial/status/1539231915613507584

Pretty good source.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: JoeMezz on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 12:54:40
If Garner takes half our squad with him he goes from a meh to a proper villain.

Imagine Egbo will be the first of Manny.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 12:55:11
Reed, Payne, Williams and McKirdy, take any of them and he turns from a nothing annoying ex manager to being on my hate list.

Thing is higher division and likely more money, its entirely understandable even without the added attraction of going to play under a manager they all seemed to like playing for...

There is a food chain and we have to accept that we are pretty far down it.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 12:59:36
Imagine Egbo will be the first of Manny.
Oh dear!

Well from memory Williams and Egbo were very much Garner players, having worked with them previously. I don't see Williams getting another chance at lg1 though.
Our only saving grace with Williams is that he had a torrid time at Charlton and the fans don't like him much.

Thing is higher division and likely more money, its entirely understandable even without the added attraction of going to play under a manager they all seemed to like playing for...

There is a food chain and we have to accept that we are pretty far down it.
Absolutely true but with 40% extra budget you would think we could almost match a struggling L1 club for wages?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Moss on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 13:01:09
https://twitter.com/CAFCofficial/status/1539231915613507584

Pretty good source.

Boo! Garner out.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 13:01:46
Imagine Egbo will be the first of Manny.

Nice work :D


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 13:11:00
Meeh,

New manager, new team. Complete lottery how we do. Could finish anywhere. Short term roll of the dice and absolute nothing long term ever. Rebuild every year and hope one year the rebuild might be good enough to us out of L2 for a year whilst we sell everyone who is half decent and rebuild again, forever. No ambition and no drive to progress. Just surviving, treading water. Boring as fuck.



Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 13:15:00
Meeh,

New manager, new team. Complete lottery how we do. Could finish anywhere. Short term roll of the dice and absolute nothing long term ever. Rebuild every year and hope one year the rebuild might be good enough to us out of L2 for a year whilst we sell everyone who is half decent and rebuild again, forever. No ambition and no drive to profess. Just surviving, treading water. Boring as fuck.


Always been the same here. Never build on a bit of success.

For the life of me, though, how does Garner think he’s going to get Charlton out of L1 by recruiting L2 players. We’d be going spend if we were recruiting from the Conference


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 13:16:55
If we were recruiting the best players from the Conference I wouldn’t mind too much.

That said, the club could announce Messi and Ronaldo were seeing out their careers here and you’d still find something to moan about, Aud  ;)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 13:19:24
There’s a fucking lot to moan about.

I’ve not got that many seasons left and we’re still flouncing around, getting nowhere. The positivity of last season is evaporating and I’ve got a gut feeling things are going to get worse.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 13:20:02
Always been the same here. Never build on a bit of success.

For the life of me, though, how does Garner think he’s going to get Charlton out of L1 by recruiting L2 players. We’d be going spend if we were recruiting from the Conference

Which is why supporting this club is complete waste of time.
Are we supporters? Or are we just addicts?

Went about 8 year cold turkey but got drawn back into it the last 3 or so years and I think it’s one of the stupidest things I’ve done in my entire life.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 13:21:57

Are we supporters? Or are we just addicts?


Looks like DV is joining Charlton with Egbo and Garner.  ;)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 13:22:02
Which is why supporting this club is complete waste of time.
Are we supporters? Or are we just addicts?

Went about 8 year cold turkey but got drawn back into it the last 3 or so years and I think it’s one of the stupidest things I’ve done in my entire life.

Yeah, I was all the way out under Power. Been drawn back in under the premise that we might be past this type of ownership, but seeing a lot of red flags lately.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 13:24:44
Looks like DV is joining Charlton with Egbo and Garner.  ;)

Ha, nope I just want to fuck off and never have any interest in football ever again.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 13:33:39
Quote from: DiV
Are we supporters? Or are we just addicts?
.


are we human? or are we dancer?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: adje on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 14:10:27
If Garner takes half our squad with him he goes from a meh to a proper villain.
Wouldn't think Charlton fans be too happy about signing a bunch of L2 players!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Hyabb17 on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 14:18:39
Baudry has signed a new deal but in what capacity we will see very soon.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: swindonmaniac on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 14:25:29
Are we supporters? Or are we just addicts?


Certainly not addicks , not the way they’ve fucked us over


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 14:31:27
Baudry has signed a new deal but in what capacity we will see very soon.

Just a player by the sounds of it. 1 year deal. Suspect this will be his swansong, getting promotion would be a fine way to end his career.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 14:32:34
Baudry announced. One year deal, as you'd expect, but interesting that they're telling us contract lengths again now.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 14:35:56
If Baudry can stay fit & replicate his end of season form then that would be a massive bonus.
It's the positive influence in the dressing room that can't be understated though.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 15:09:31
So, based on no actual knowledge at all this was the order of likelihood of re-signing I expected from our contract offers.

Most Likely
1. Harry Parsons
2. Mathieu Baudry
3. Akin Odimayo
4. Mandela Egbo
5. Rob Hunt
6. Jack Payne
7. JoJo Wollacott
Least Likely

Today has given us #2 signing and #4 leaving. Should get clarity on a few more soon enough I'd think.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 15:22:48
Today has given us 2 signing and 4 leaving.

Has it? Eggbo leaving and Baudry staying is the only news I've seen.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 15:26:06
Has it? Eggbo leaving and Baudry staying is the only news I've seen.

As in #2 and #4 on that list.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Posh Red on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 15:36:22
Hoping for a busy few days, let’s hope Chorley gave SL “The List”


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 15:39:32
As in #2 and #4 on that list.

Ah


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 15:39:32
As in #2 and #4 on that list.

I read it initially as Chalky did so cheers for clarifying that you meant with the hashes! :)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 08:57:21
So, having got the cynic bug, the fact that the club seem to be 'going to town' (they aren't really but they are milking it a little) on Frenchie signing a 1 year deal, do we think that's it on the contract extensions now? Obviously yesterday was gutting about Egbo going to Charlton and I really can't see Payne staying despite what others are saying, (would be cock a hoop to be wrong on that one) and we surely can't be keeping back the Parsons/Odimayo contract extension news to attempt to downplay losing Payne? Now Egbo has gone, I think Odimayo staying is more important, he's a decent player across CB and RB if needed and with Hunt likely to go we are very thin on the ground in that position.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: molepar on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 09:00:07
So, having got the cynic bug, the fact that the club seem to be 'going to town' (they aren't really but they are milking it a little) on Frenchie signing a 1 year deal, do we think that's it on the contract extensions now? Obviously yesterday was gutting about Egbo going to Charlton and I really can't see Payne staying despite what others are saying, (would be cock a hoop to be wrong on that one) and we surely can't be keeping back the Parsons/Odimayo contract extension news to attempt to downplay losing Payne? Now Egbo has gone, I think Odimayo staying is more important, he's a decent player across CB and RB if needed and with Hunt likely to go we are very thin on the ground in that position.
Maybe you are right. Odimayo would be a good signing if we can retain his services. Not too optimistic about Payne.

What does “a cock a hoop” mean? Not heard that one before.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 09:05:16
Maybe you are right. Odimayo would be a good signing if we can retain his services. Not too optimistic about Payne.

What does “a cock a hoop” mean? Not heard that one before.

ha, it's a very old fashioned term moley. The dictionary definition is "extremely and obviously pleased, especially about an achievement - the team is cock-a-hoop about winning it's first game of the season"

I suppose I should be using some of the modern language that the kids use where they remove letters from words to make them 'cool', or words like 'sick', 'tench' or 'groovy' (not sure that one is 'sick' anymore however!)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 09:06:30
ha, it's a very old fashioned term moley. The dictionary definition is "extremely and obviously pleased, especially about an achievement - the team is cock-a-hoop about winning it's first game of the season"

I suppose I should be using some of the modern language that the kids use where they remove letters from words to make them 'cool', or words like 'sick', 'tench' or 'groovy' (not sure that one is 'sick' anymore however!)
Must admit I never thought anyone would not of heard of the phrase, I still see it in Twitter posts etc so assumed the "yoof" still use it.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 09:22:01
(https://southeasternbeers.co.uk/947/500ml-jennings-cocker-hoop.jpg)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: molepar on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 09:36:11
ha, it's a very old fashioned term moley. The dictionary definition is "extremely and obviously pleased, especially about an achievement - the team is cock-a-hoop about winning it's first game of the season"

I suppose I should be using some of the modern language that the kids use where they remove letters from words to make them 'cool', or words like 'sick', 'tench' or 'groovy' (not sure that one is 'sick' anymore however!)

That’s good to know. I assumed it was some kind of innuendo based reference (or perhaps Scottish - you’re based up there right?). Very pleased it is altogether innocent and that I have had a lesson in colloquial culture.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 09:50:10
That’s good to know. I assumed it was some kind of innuendo based reference (or perhaps Scottish - you’re based up there right?). Very pleased it is altogether innocent and that I have had a lesson in colloquial culture.

I lived in Scotland for a period of time, aye! It does sound like it should be Scottish right enough.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 09:51:14
Probably thinking of cock-a-leaky.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 09:54:15
I lived in Scotland for a period of time, aye! It does sound like it should be Scottish right enough.
Lang mae yer lum reek.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 09:56:25
A sex aid for BO?  :D


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 10:05:17
A sex aid for BO?  :D
Is that a nose peg so that the other person can't smell the body odour?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: theakston2k on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 15:57:46
Oscar Massey, 18 year from Plymouth. Gotta guess he’s a development player so signings like this must mean a development/u23 team next season surely?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 16:05:32
The article about him makes him sound quite promising which begs the question why Plymouth released him?

I guess we’ll have to wait and see how much of an impact he makes next season aged just 18



Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 16:05:40
I’d assume this is the first of the ‘data driven’ signings.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 16:07:18
The article about him makes him sound quite promising which begs the question why Plymouth released him?

I guess we’ll have to wait and see how much of an impact he makes next season aged just 18



Probably the first young kid we've signed that is not 'highly-rated' (Given Plymouth gave him the boot)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: theakston2k on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 16:18:09
I’d assume this is the first of the ‘data driven’ signings.
Imagine so but you would imagine this is in the long term punt category not someone they are throwing in the squad next season.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 16:21:44
Probably the first young kid we've signed that is not 'highly-rated' (Given Plymouth gave him the boot)

Well, Plymouth also released Sean Morrison many years ago…and we signed him…the less said about the others…


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Pericardinho on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 16:28:09
Is it possible we've been tracking him a while, he thinks he's got more chance of breaking through here so they let him go as they knew he wouldn't sign with them?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 16:32:53
Is it possible we've been tracking him a while, he thinks he's got more chance of breaking through here so they let him go as they knew he wouldn't sign with them?

In that situation wouldn’t they offer him something know full well he’ll turn it down and sign here and then they’d be entitled to comp right?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 16:59:38
From a Plymouth fan -

Some of our fans were surprised to see him go as he’d scored a few goals in our academy. Oscar and his family weren’t happy at all when he was released, posting on Twitter and Instagram etc.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Pericardinho on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 17:13:18
In that situation wouldn’t they offer him something know full well he’ll turn it down and sign here and then they’d be entitled to comp right?

Yeah good point


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: adje on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 17:17:44
From a Plymouth fan -

Some of our fans were surprised to see him go as he’d scored a few goals in our academy. Oscar and his family weren’t happy at all when he was released, posting on Twitter and Instagram etc.
Oh no,pushy parents!🙂


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Whingy the poo on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 19:07:57

Doesn't actually say how long we have signed him for? :hmmm:


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Benzel on Thursday, June 23, 2022, 08:53:50
He looks pretty strong for 18, at least he should be able to handle himself out there

Sent from my CLT-L09


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, June 23, 2022, 08:58:50
Doesn't actually say how long we have signed him for? :hmmm:
Sure I read 3 year contract.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, June 23, 2022, 11:17:53
I hate to upset the mongers of doom, but pics on that Facebook suggest McKirdy back at the club in new season training kit today.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, June 23, 2022, 11:20:04
I hate to upset the mongers of doom, but pics on that Facebook suggest McKirdy back at the club in new season training kit today.
Wiv the new Barnet fair.
(https://i.postimg.cc/8ckbsphx/289888649-5587948734578259-5038295123880052273-n.jpg)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: theakston2k on Thursday, June 23, 2022, 11:20:07
I hate to upset the mongers of doom, but pics on that Facebook suggest McKirdy back at the club in new season training kit today.
He is under contract so wouldn’t you expect that. Forget Lyden was back for preseason.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, June 23, 2022, 11:28:27
I hate to upset the mongers of doom, but pics on that Facebook suggest McKirdy back at the club in new season training kit today.

yeah but yeah but yeah but where is Jack Payne?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Thursday, June 23, 2022, 11:32:55
Wiv the new Barnet fair.
(https://i.postimg.cc/8ckbsphx/289888649-5587948734578259-5038295123880052273-n.jpg)
He's morphed into 80's teen idol Nick Heyward  ???...

(https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/130/590x/Nick-Heyward-973831.jpg?r=1533727463612)


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Thursday, June 23, 2022, 11:33:20
yeah but yeah but yeah but where is Jack Payne?

I was wondering if people like Payne with (at least one offer on the table) dither for a bit extra just for another week off …


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, June 23, 2022, 11:36:13
He's morphed into 80's teen idol Nick Heyward  ???...

(https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/130/590x/Nick-Heyward-973831.jpg?r=1533727463612)
:D


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: theakston2k on Thursday, June 23, 2022, 11:38:33
I was wondering if people like Payne with (at least one offer on the table) dither for a bit extra just for another week off …
Wouldn’t be surprised and avoid the worst bit of preseason.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, June 23, 2022, 12:09:04
Quote from: horlock07
I hate to upset the mongers of doom, but pics on that Facebook suggest McKirdy back at the club in new season training kit today.

why wouldn't he be?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Thursday, June 23, 2022, 12:13:01
why wouldn't he be?

….because he’s on his way to Charlton and / or any other club that isn’t us.
That’s why he wouldn’t be at training. The fact he is, is what has upset the doom merchants


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, June 23, 2022, 12:20:08
He turns up to his employer until otherwise sold though. The doomongers won't be put off by a picture of him training.

Lets be honest, he's bound to attract a bit of interest after the season he had. Its not a totally stupid suggestion.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Thursday, June 23, 2022, 12:25:10
He turns up to his employer until otherwise sold though. The doomongers won't be put off by a picture of him training.

Lets be honest, he's bound to attract a bit of interest after the season he had. Its not a totally stupid suggestion.
To be fair many have said they'd be suprised to see him ere


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Red Frog on Thursday, June 23, 2022, 12:34:41
Wiv the new Barnet fair.
(https://i.postimg.cc/8ckbsphx/289888649-5587948734578259-5038295123880052273-n.jpg)

Are we going to have to stop referring to him as a homeless lesbian now?  :cry:


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, June 23, 2022, 12:36:09
Are we going to have to stop referring to him as a homeless lesbian now?  :cry:
Must admit thats the first time I have heard Harry and that particular phrase in the same sentence!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: DiV on Thursday, June 23, 2022, 13:07:43
Must admit thats the first time I have heard Harry and that particular phrase in the same sentence!

It was a tweet from a Bradford fan after we won at their place I think.

I mean I totally got it and it rather creative tbf


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: harrisonaw on Thursday, June 23, 2022, 13:20:50
Good to see Lyden back in the pics, hope he can stay injury free this year.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: 4D on Thursday, June 23, 2022, 13:55:14
Reed and Aquilar in recent training kit pics too


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Red Frog on Thursday, June 23, 2022, 13:56:55
It was a tweet from a Bradford fan after we won at their place I think.

I mean I totally got it and it rather creative tbf

 :nod:


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: theakston2k on Thursday, June 23, 2022, 13:59:53
So that’s all the contracted players seen then apart from Williams, I’m tempted to play with a few on Twitter about his absence, but probably a bit cruel. He’ll be on extended leave I imagine following his international duty.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, June 23, 2022, 14:04:38
The optimist in me is saying that the club are teasing a Jack Payne is staying announcement at 5, but the pessimist in me is saying they are just firing out pictures of who we have left.

Haven't seen AK either in any pictures.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Batch on Thursday, June 23, 2022, 14:07:21
So that’s all the contracted players seen then apart from Williams, I’m tempted to play with a few on Twitter about his absence, but probably a bit cruel. I saw him in Sainsbury's near Charlton earlier.

FIFY


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, June 23, 2022, 14:11:40
FIFY

haha - sneaky Batch!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: MangoRed on Friday, June 24, 2022, 20:32:18
A lot being made of Devine due to his Walsall stint. Like Venkman said, he did well in Scotland before hand, played Europa league and then got recalled to be sent to into the football league. Got injured at Walsall which didn’t help. He’s a 20 year old left back on a  2 year deal, Iandolo and Shade can play wingback, I doubt we are pinning all our hopes on him. Spent a long time at United (yes I know Tyler Reid and Kovar also did/have) so that’s a positive. I’m not saying this will turn out to be a dud, but you get duds in every window -relegation season we had nearly 10 of them 😂. Last season we had Mitchell Lawson and East- both were absolutely useless for us.

I’m very skeptical about a lot of things this regime are doing and even more skeptical about Sandro, but pointless getting worked up about a 20 year old left back….. untill he starts costing us points 😂


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: adje on Saturday, June 25, 2022, 07:33:58
A lot being made of Devine due to his Walsall stint. Like Venkman said, he did well in Scotland before hand, played Europa league and then got recalled to be sent to into the football league. Got injured at Walsall which didn’t help. He’s a 20 year old left back on a  2 year deal, Iandolo and Shade can play wingback, I doubt we are pinning all our hopes on him. Spent a long time at United (yes I know Tyler Reid and Kovar also did/have) so that’s a positive. I’m not saying this will turn out to be a dud, but you get duds in every window -relegation season we had nearly 10 of them 😂. Last season we had Mitchell Lawson and East- both were absolutely useless for us.

I’m very skeptical about a lot of things this regime are doing and even more skeptical about Sandro, but pointless getting worked up about a 20 year old left back….. untill he starts costing us points 😂
Good points but East "useless" is a touch harsh


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: MangoRed on Saturday, June 25, 2022, 07:55:20
Good points but East "useless" is a touch harsh

I get your angle, but I said he was useless for us. The games he played when Reed was unavailable completely passed him by. Clearly has something for Bradford and Hughes to sign him.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Saturday, June 25, 2022, 08:46:59
I didn't think East was useless for us at all.

JML on the other hand... Have we still got him?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, June 25, 2022, 08:52:33
Good points but East "useless" is a touch harsh
A little harsh but he wasn't very good certainly for a whole game, he had decent 30 min spells in games.

I hear his head wasn't fully in the game and struggled with being a bit part player, he was lightweight which in L2 is harder to overcome unless you are very good like Reed.

He will improve for sure but not sure he will play at a much higher level than L1 but have been wrong before. I would have been happy if he stayed another season to see if he could build on it but he never seemed to settle with us.

JML though, fast but techinally terrible player. He has the touch of a early Huawei mobile phone screen.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: molepar on Saturday, June 25, 2022, 08:54:00
A little harsh but he wasn't very good certainly for a whole game, he had decent 30 min spells in games.

I hear his head wasn't fully in the game and struggled with being a bit part player, he was lightweight which in L2 is harder to overcome unless you are very good like Reed.

He will improve for sure but not sure he will play at a much higher level than L1 but have been wrong before. I would have been happy if he stayed another season to see if he could build on it but he never seemed to settle with us.

JML though, fast but techinally terrible player. He has the touch of a early Huawei mobile phone screen.
Yeah I don’t think East was as bad as some would suggest. JML was very frustrating as he seemed to dribble quite well at times but final ball and shooting was shocking.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Saturday, June 25, 2022, 09:06:09
JML though, fast but techinally terrible player. He has the touch of a early Huawei mobile phone screen.
Wow...those early Huawei's must have been pretty rough :D


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Saturday, June 25, 2022, 09:21:01
I didn't think East was useless for us at all.

JML on the other hand... Have we still got him?

East was an upgrade on Anton Rogers.
JML was poor.
Both not good enough if we are serious about getting out of this god awful shite league.
The thought of doing these grounds all over again fills me with dread, however a few weeks time reckon I will be about ready.
Looking at a few trains tomorrow.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Miles Mayhem on Saturday, June 25, 2022, 10:17:51
Who’s making the trip to Melksham next weekend then?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Pericardinho on Saturday, June 25, 2022, 10:20:30
I shall be there!


Title: Re: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Benzel on Saturday, June 25, 2022, 10:23:34
I didn't think East was useless for us at all.

JML on the other hand... Have we still got him?
Nah he got released

Sent from my CLT-L09


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Saturday, June 25, 2022, 10:44:04
Nah he got released

Sent from my CLT-L09
Cheers....thank God for that!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2021-22)
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, June 25, 2022, 11:42:32
East was an upgrade on Anton Rogers.
JML was poor.
Both not good enough if we are serious about getting out of this god awful shite league.
The thought of doing these grounds all over again fills me with dread, however a few weeks time reckon I will be about ready.
Looking at a few trains tomorrow.

I'll add Joel Grant to that list


Title: The Squad List (currently serving 2022-23)
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, June 28, 2022, 10:10:38
Time for an update... although there are still a lot of unknowns here.

THE CURRENT SQUAD

OUT OF CONTRACT
New contract decisions pending

2. Akin Odimayo (DRC)
10. Jack Payne (AMRLC)
24. Rob Hunt (D/WBRL)
29. Harry Parsons (ST)

8. Jordan Lyden (MC) - no contract offer but training with the club to regain fitness

UNDER CONTRACT
Contract lengths mostly not announced, but expect 2023 unless stated

3. Ellis Iandolo (DL/MC)
6. Mathieu Baudry (DC) - 2023 confirmed
7. Ben Gladwin (MC)
11. Harry McKirdy (AM/ST)
12. Lewis Ward (GK)
20. Jonny Williams (AMLC)
25. Louis Reed (MC)
28. Ricky Aguiar (MC)
30. Mo Dabre (MF)
32. George Cowmeadow (AML/ST)
34. Harrison Minturn (DC)
TBC. Tyrese Shade (D/MR) -2024
TBC. Sol Brynn (GK) - Season long loan
TBC. Oscar Massey (ST)
TBC. Reece Devine (DL) - 2024


YOUTH PLAYERS
Some may have been released/offered pro terms, the club has not yet announced - does anyone ITK have any idea on these? Presumably there's a new intake too. It seems like they don't even have a squad section on the website anymore.

31. Donny Gordon
33. Levi Francis
35. Callum Winchcombe
36. Anton Dworzak
37. Harvey Fox
38. Tom Wynn-Davis
39. Jed Afenyo
40. Jacob Bunch


Title: The Squad List (currently serving 2022-23)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, June 28, 2022, 10:13:08
Cheers Nemo!


Title: The Squad List (currently serving 2022-23)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, June 28, 2022, 10:14:44
Thanks Nemo

So 15, 16 if Parson's stays as I expect. And Massey, Minturn, Cowmeadow and Dabre I'd say are currently squad players with an eye to the future.

Still got a bit of recruitment to do then!


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2022-23)
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, June 28, 2022, 10:23:07
There are four loan spots to fill, honestly I think I wouldn't expect more than a couple more permanent signings. Main gap is forwards and centre backs, we're pretty well sorted down the sides.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2022-23)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, June 28, 2022, 10:28:44
There are four loan spots to fill, honestly I think I wouldn't expect more than a couple more permanent signings. Main gap is forwards and centre backs, we're pretty well sorted down the sides.
We can have up to 6 long term loans but only any 5 of those can be in the matchday squad for each game.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2022-23)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, June 28, 2022, 10:35:47
There are four loan spots to fill, honestly I think I wouldn't expect more than a couple more permanent signings. Main gap is forwards and centre backs, we're pretty well sorted down the sides.

If we are genuinely viewing  massey, Minturn, Cowmeadow and Dabre as first team we will have a pretty weak squad. Again. Doesn't really fit into the 40% uplift in budget, or at least how I envisaged it.

I don't mean that as a beat up on those players. Could be the next Scott Twine. But Scott Twine wasn't the next Scott Twine after a year of not playing much.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2022-23)
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, June 28, 2022, 10:49:16
If we are genuinely viewing  massey, Minturn, Cowmeadow and Dabre as first team we will have a pretty weak squad. Again. Doesn't really fit into the 40% uplift in budget, or at least how I envisaged it.

I don't mean that as a beat up on those players. Could be the next Scott Twine. But Scott Twine wasn't the next Scott Twine after a year of not playing much.
Agreed.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2022-23)
Post by: Hyabb17 on Tuesday, June 28, 2022, 11:07:26
Rob Angus reiterated that the budget has gone up last night, I guess the proof will be in the pudding.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2022-23)
Post by: molepar on Tuesday, June 28, 2022, 11:16:57
Rob Angus reiterated that the budget has gone up last night, I guess the proof will be in the pudding.
Good to hear. I trust Angus. I am also confident we will have people who are on the verge of signing or who have already signed.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2022-23)
Post by: Hyabb17 on Tuesday, June 28, 2022, 11:21:33
Good to hear. I trust Angus. I am also confident we will have people who are on the verge of signing or who have already signed.

He said it's a competitive budget. Said he wouldn't give a figure as that gives other teams/players the info. 


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2022-23)
Post by: molepar on Tuesday, June 28, 2022, 11:26:59
By that token it could be that we are downplaying the money we received from Twine as we don’t want people to think we are minted as that will weaken any bargaining positions we may find ourselves in.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2022-23)
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, June 28, 2022, 11:36:56
https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/20239227.money-scott-twine-sale-will-not-paid-lump-sum-sandro-di-michele/


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2022-23)
Post by: adje on Tuesday, June 28, 2022, 15:12:49
Anyone hoping we get Cooper,O'Brien and Tomlinson again? Or do we want a clean break from last season's loans?Or has it already been "no-noed"?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2022-23)
Post by: molepar on Tuesday, June 28, 2022, 15:14:44
Anyone hoping we get Cooper,O'B and Tomlinson again? Or do we want a clean break from last season's loans?Or has it already been "no-noed"?
I would be happy to see both of them back. I expect they will end up in Charlton.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2022-23)
Post by: adje on Tuesday, June 28, 2022, 15:15:24
https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/20239227.money-scott-twine-sale-will-not-paid-lump-sum-sandro-di-michele/
I'm shocked. Who would have predicted that we will never know how much we get?


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2022-23)
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Tuesday, June 28, 2022, 15:23:52
Anyone hoping we get Cooper,O'B and Tomlinson again? Or do we want a clean break from last season's loans?Or has it already been "no-noed"?

Very doubtful on both.
Of last seasons loanees Tomlinson would have been the must have if possible.
That prospect looks to have been covered off by the early recruitment.
I'd expect him to be a regular in L1 this season.

JOB might be the most likely for a return.
Wouldn't object if that were to happen, but hoping for experience to dominate the CB berths.


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2022-23)
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, June 28, 2022, 16:05:07
Cian Harries then


Title: Re: The Squad List (currently serving 2022-23)
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Friday, July 1, 2022, 09:40:19
Locking as Nemo can't edit first post. New Topic incoming.