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Title: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, 11:41:29
(A) Supermarine - Wednesday 5 July, 7.45pm
(A) Melksham - Saturday 8 July 3pm
(A) Corsham - Tuesday 11 July 7:30pm
(A) Bristol City - Tuesday 18 July, 12.30pm (behind closed doors but on 'Robins TV')
(A) Hereford - Tuesday 18 July, 7.30pm
(A) Eastleigh - Saturday 22 July 1pm
(H) Plymouth - Satturday 29 July 3pm




"Whattaya hear, whattaya say?"

Last few preseasons have been pretty dire. On top of the usual Supermarine and Melksham local away games we've had the likes of Harrogate and Woking at home.

Any chance we get something a tad more interesting this year? Maybe a Southampton at home or something?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: swindonmaniac on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, 11:43:33
Or another Weymouth away.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, 11:44:30
A foreign team at home would be nice.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, 11:45:00
Devon/Somerset teams please, maybe Dorset too, give me a chance of getting to them. #selfishfucker


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, 11:45:24
Or another Weymouth away.

Would take that to be honest.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, 11:47:31
A foreign team at home would be nice.

Like Sporting De Gijon a whole 2 decades ago. Remember 'Super Sammy Parkin' chant starting that game for the first time.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: swindonmaniac on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, 11:47:41
A foreign team at home would be nice.
We’ve already got Wrexham to look forward to, how many more do you want ??.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, 11:49:58
"Whattaya hear, whattaya say?"

Last few preseasons have been pretty dire. On top of the usual Supermarine and Melksham local away games we've had the likes of Harrogate and Woking at home.

Any chance we get something a tad more interesting this year? Maybe a Southampton at home or something?

Ungrateful bastard, we had a foreign team last August. Second biggest team in their country.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, 11:52:40
Ungrateful bastard, we had a foreign team last August. Second biggest team in their country.

I'm lost on that one.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, 11:53:32
Something I never knew.....same year we played Sporting De Gijon, we played Kenya at home behind closed doors.

http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/Results.asp?Friendly=YES&Season=2002-2003

Would definitely qualify as 'interesting'


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: swindonmaniac on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, 11:54:41
I'm lost on that one.
Cardiff ??.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, 11:57:27
Cardiff ??.

Well that got wiped from my memory. Surely they're the biggest in their country.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, 11:59:17
Quote from: bigbobjoylove
A foreign team at home would be nice.
Newport?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: adje on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, 12:01:13
Flynn has Arteta's phone number!🙂


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, 12:01:40
a not too distant never heard of non league team please. A brimscombe and thrupp type


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, 12:03:59
Well that got wiped from my memory. Surely they're the biggest in their country.
Not with Wreck somes rise.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, 12:06:13
a not too distant never heard of non league team please. A brimscombe and thrupp type
Revive the games vs Fairford and Cirencester and also Calne, Chippenham and Witney type early pre season games.

We always had about 8 to 10 games pre season with the first 6 or so being very local ones against very lower league very local opposition.


Title: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, 12:06:52
nah, that's boring (ciren + fairford)

obviously need some league oppo, though I don't usually care about that


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, 12:12:25
nah, that's boring (ciren + fairford)

obviously need some league oppo, though I don't usually care about that
We always played 5 or 6 local sides then did a couple further away near the seaside/abroad/Scottish and finished off with 2 or 3 higher league/foreign sides at the CG.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Mooneyraker on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, 12:13:17
Copa Ibiza repeat please.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, 12:22:49
Ungrateful bastard, we had a foreign team last August. Second biggest team in their country.

Liverpool?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, 12:25:27
Well that got wiped from my memory. Surely they're the biggest in their country.

We had Swansea in July but it was cancelled.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, 12:27:05
We always played 5 or 6 local sides then did a couple further away near the seaside/abroad/Scottish and finished off with 2 or 3 higher league/foreign sides at the CG.
1985
(https://i.postimg.cc/05DcJK5D/85.png)
1986
(https://i.postimg.cc/3JZ1tMvw/86.png)

Proper pre season mix back then.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, 12:27:48
Revive the games vs Witney type early pre season games.


Gonna struggle with that one....   :cry:


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, 12:33:04
Gonna struggle with that one....   :cry:
Used to enjoy going to Witney for pre season games back in the 80s and 90s, always lots of Pox fans there too. Unfortunately many old teams are going by to wall now.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, 12:33:23
I hope Hullavington get into league 2.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Power to people on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, 12:52:50
Hopefully Flynn will be able to get the players away somewhere for pre-season to help with the team bonding and fitness - maybe a Macari esc army camp


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Mooneyraker on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, 12:55:40
Hopefully Flynn will be able to get the players away somewhere for pre-season to help with the team bonding and fitness - maybe a Macari esc army camp

Always disappointed with how little we do with the Forces TBH. Get them down to Warminster/Tidworth for a pre season thrashing! Some very cheeky runs over the Plain to be done.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, 12:55:56
I read somewhere that Flynn loves pre-season and he often arranges games and sets up training to ensure that the players are fatigued during pre-season matches.



















 ;)


Title: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, 13:08:29
not sure it's worth a new thread:

Fixture Release Date – Thursday 22 June 2023, 9am
Start Date – Saturday 5 August 2023 (with a likely live game on Friday 4 August)
Carabao Cup Round One – w/c 7 August 2023
Carabao Cup Final – Sunday 25 February 2023*
EFL Trophy Round One – w/c 4 September 2023
EFL Trophy Final – Sunday 7 April 2024
League One Play-Off Final – Saturday 18 May 2024
League Two Play-Off Final – Sunday 19 May 2024
Championship Play-Off Final – Sunday 26 May 2024

* they mean 2024


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, 13:43:12
Was only this time last year I was having a look on swindon-town-fc.co.uk at where we've done pre-season before (well bit later last year as we were in the play offs). Went back and had another look as a reminder.

Most recently we've been to Italy and one training camp in Portugal where we played Rovers behind closed doors.

Most common seems to be Ireland, mainly Republic but one Northern Ireland tour in 99 too. We've also done Finland a bunch of times in the 90s, Cyprus once.

Getting away preseason dried up early 2000s until we didn't go anywhere until the famous Copa Ibiza win of 2006 followed by Austrian tours where Simon Cox scored a wonder goal while we were still in training kits.

We also set up camp in the south of the Netherlands a couple of times in the 90s, playing mostly non league sides there on what looks like a local park. Can't imagine that was the best preparation.

Touring outside of England wasn't very common before the 90s. Outside of a few Scottish tours, we went to Malta in 1986 and did both Germany and France in 1957.



Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: tans on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, 13:56:30
not sure it's worth a new thread:

Fixture Release Date – Thursday 22 June 2023, 9am
Start Date – Saturday 5 August 2023 (with a likely live game on Friday 4 August)
Carabao Cup Round One – w/c 7 August 2023
Carabao Cup Final – Sunday 25 February 2023*
EFL Trophy Round One – w/c 4 September 2023
EFL Trophy Final – Sunday 7 April 2024
League One Play-Off Final – Saturday 18 May 2024
League Two Play-Off Final – Sunday 19 May 2024
Championship Play-Off Final – Sunday 26 May 2024

* they mean 2024

Championship play off final a week later than the others. What utter shit, that weekend is one of the best weekends of the season with all the finals!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Posh Red on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, 14:21:31
I remember a pre season game away to non-league Forest Green, Duncan Shearer's first game.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, 14:25:57
Mid to late 70's Ayr United at home!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, 14:35:21
Shame it's so expensive to get away and abroad these days for these things

I have just arranged pre season in spain for one football club and it's around £20k


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, 14:38:26
Championship play off final a week later than the others. What utter shit, that weekend is one of the best weekends of the season with all the finals!

Yeah that is bollocks.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, 14:39:36
I remember a pre season game away to non-league Forest Green, Duncan Shearer's first game.

I remember we'd play little non league Yeovil in the 90s every season and pump them by 6 or 7 every time. Then they were a league team, then they were above us in The Championship and now they're back to being non league again.

What a rollercoaster.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, 14:46:31
I wonder if any Town fans made it to South America for the tour in 1912.
Probably would have found something to complain about if they did!!

http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/Results.asp?Friendly=YES&Season=1912-1913

http://gottfriedfuchs.blogspot.com/2012/11/swindon-town-tour-of-argentina-and.html

Come on Clem, dig deep.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, 14:49:51
Probably would have found something to complain about if they did!!

The three month ferry home probably wouldn't have been ideal.

Lots of goals for Archie Bown on that tour - I wonder if he's a relative, my mother's maiden name is Bown and it's hardly common(that's a hundred password security questions given away!)


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, 14:53:50
I wonder if any Town fans made it to South America for the tour in 1912.
Probably would have found something to complain about if they did!!

http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/Results.asp?Friendly=YES&Season=1912-1913

http://gottfriedfuchs.blogspot.com/2012/11/swindon-town-tour-of-argentina-and.html

Come on Clem, dig deep.

Bloody hell I missed that one. How random. Some good results there, not that I've heard of any of the teams.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, 14:56:49


Lots of goals for Archie Bown on that tour - I wonder if he's a relative, my mother's maiden name is Bown and it's hardly common(that's a hundred password security questions given away!)

I like that he started his career at Swindon Casuals, I like to think they were proper nawty wearing Stone Island!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, 15:05:32
I like that he started his career at Swindon Casuals, I like to think they were proper nawty wearing Stone Island!

Maybe not Stone Island but Burberry would have been around then and a fairly new brand.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Mooneyraker on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, 15:12:52
Maybe not Stone Island but Burberry would have been around then and a fairly new brand.

Pretty sure Burberry in those days were more likely to be providing waterproofs to Shackleton than kitting out the local scallies of the day!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, 15:33:54
I wonder if any Town fans made it to South America for the tour in 1912.
Probably would have found something to complain about if they did!!

http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/Results.asp?Friendly=YES&Season=1912-1913

http://gottfriedfuchs.blogspot.com/2012/11/swindon-town-tour-of-argentina-and.html

Come on Clem, dig deep.

I wonder if Scott and Oates were town fans?  :sherlock:


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, 15:36:58
We had Swansea in July but it was cancelled.

Fuck me, I take it back. I thought we played Cardiff. Senile dementia come early.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: THE FLASH on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, 15:52:22
Lets get something in Ireland or Scotland please.

People now know my name at Supermarine FFS!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Whingy the poo on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, 20:32:47
Fuck me, I take it back. I thought we played Cardiff. Senile dementia come early.

We did play Cardiff LL.

http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/Results.asp?Friendly=YES&Season=2022-2023



Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, 20:41:57
We did play Cardiff LL.

http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/Results.asp?Friendly=YES&Season=2022-2023



I can stop the meds now?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, May 11, 2023, 07:55:07
Was only this time last year I was having a look on swindon-town-fc.co.uk at where we've done pre-season before (well bit later last year as we were in the play offs). Went back and had another look as a reminder.


Didn't we do Lake Garda at some point?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, May 11, 2023, 07:56:12
Didn't we do Lake Garda at some point?

To answer mt own question - was the Di Canio season, 2012

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlZ1GrU4fUA


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: 4D on Thursday, May 11, 2023, 08:06:32
Our tour of Austria when Fenerbahce held the mighty Swindown to a draw. Best bit at 56 seconds in.

https://youtu.be/GXlINN4UHTs


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Mooneyraker on Thursday, May 11, 2023, 08:11:05
Looking back at these, are the last two seasons our worst ever pre-season fixtures?! Prepared to give 2021/22 a bit of a free pass given the situation, but this season's was unforgivably shit.

Aberdeen and Clem need to understand that a couple of decent glamour fixtures can be a factor in shifting season tickets. A cheap day in the sun during the school holidays at home to a Premier League or big Championship side might just hook a few people.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: JoeMezz on Thursday, May 11, 2023, 08:23:14
Looking back at these, are the last two seasons our worst ever pre-season fixtures?! Prepared to give 2021/22 a bit of a free pass given the situation, but this season's was unforgivably shit.

Aberdeen and Clem need to understand that a couple of decent glamour fixtures can be a factor in shifting season tickets. A cheap day in the sun during the school holidays at home to a Premier League or big Championship side might just hook a few people.

But we were fatigued against Supermarine!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Mooneyraker on Thursday, May 11, 2023, 08:27:12
But we were fatigued against Supermarine!

I think we are all fatigued now...


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Thursday, May 11, 2023, 19:38:28
Our tour of Austria when Fenerbahce held the mighty Swindown to a draw. Best bit at 56 seconds in.

https://youtu.be/GXlINN4UHTs

Up the Swindown. 

Think Roberto Carlos played that game.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: tans on Thursday, May 11, 2023, 19:56:42
And Mateja kezman


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Thursday, May 11, 2023, 20:01:09
Sounds like from the Wednesday Night Panel that Flynn will have a few more pre-season games than the new normal, as he is big on fitness. Music to my ears. I assume the balls won't be out in the first session this preseason. Last couple of seasons we've had 5 and 6 which is pretty poor really.  

To get an idea as to what is more normal in years gone by. Year we went to Austria (wembley bobble seaason), we had 8 on UK soil on top of the 3 games there. Copa Ibiza year we went up under Sturrock, 6 on UK soil on top of the 2 in Ibiza. In 19/20 we had 10 games.

I'd at least like to see us at least get properly round the local region like we used to, with a good 6 or 7 local away games (Supermarine, Salisbury, Hungerford, Melksham, Chippenham, Cirencester, etc.)

Add to that then a couple of solid home friendlies against higher league opposition at home (Birmingham, Cardiff, Swansea, Southampton, etc.)  

This sort of preseason should be the bare minimum and we've been getting less than that the last few seasons.

The squad needs to be fit and needs to be used to playing games in several systems. This season was just a case of pissing in to the wind and hoping for the best and Lindsey and Sandro can share than blame.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Thursday, May 11, 2023, 20:22:07
Sounds like from the Wednesday Night Panel that Flynn will have a few more pre-season games than the new normal, as he is big on fitness. Music to my ears. I assume the balls won't be out in the first session this preseason. Last couple of seasons we've had 5 and 6 which is pretty poor really. 

To get an idea as to what is more normal in years gone by. Year we went to Austria (wembley bobble seaason), we had 8 on UK soil on top of the 3 games there. Copa Ibiza year we went up under Sturrock, 6 on UK soil on top of the 2 in Ibiza. In 19/20 we had 10 games.

I'd at least like to see us at least get properly round the local region like we used to, with a good 6 or 7 local away games (Supermarine, Salisbury, Hungerford, Melksham, Chippenham, Cirencester, etc.)

Add to that then a couple of solid home friendlies against higher league opposition at home (Birmingham, Cardiff, Swansea, Southampton, etc.) 

This sort of preseason should be the bare minimum and we've been getting less than that the last few seasons.

The squad needs to be fit and needs to be used to playing games in several systems. This season was just a case of pissing in to the wind and hoping for the best and Lindsey and Sandro can share than blame.
Yeah... Can't imagine Flynn will be too interested in how we "play when fatigued".... as per Lyndsey vs Supermarine last year...mother fuckers shouldn't be getting 'fatigued' in the first place 🤦


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Thursday, May 11, 2023, 20:46:07
Sounds like from the Wednesday Night Panel that Flynn will have a few more pre-season games than the new normal, as he is big on fitness. Music to my ears. I assume the balls won't be out in the first session this preseason. Last couple of seasons we've had 5 and 6 which is pretty poor really.  

To get an idea as to what is more normal in years gone by. Year we went to Austria (wembley bobble seaason), we had 8 on UK soil on top of the 3 games there. Copa Ibiza year we went up under Sturrock, 6 on UK soil on top of the 2 in Ibiza. In 19/20 we had 10 games.

I'd at least like to see us at least get properly round the local region like we used to, with a good 6 or 7 local away games (Supermarine, Salisbury, Hungerford, Melksham, Chippenham, Cirencester, etc.)

Add to that then a couple of solid home friendlies against higher league opposition at home (Birmingham, Cardiff, Swansea, Southampton, etc.)  

This sort of preseason should be the bare minimum and we've been getting less than that the last few seasons.

The squad needs to be fit and needs to be used to playing games in several systems. This season was just a case of pissing in to the wind and hoping for the best and Lindsey and Sandro can share than blame.

Bristol City at home would be tasty


Title: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 19, 2023, 11:30:30
Hereford away

Tuesday 18th July – Swindon Town  – 7:30pm

https://www.herefordfc.co.uk/news-pre-season-friendlies/ (https://www.herefordfc.co.uk/news-pre-season-friendlies/)

I guess what type of team we'll take will be more apparent as other fixtures roll in


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, May 19, 2023, 11:35:23
Hereford away

Tuesday 18th July – Swindon Town  – 7:30pm

https://www.herefordfc.co.uk/news-pre-season-friendlies/ (https://www.herefordfc.co.uk/news-pre-season-friendlies/)

I guess what type of team we'll take will be more apparent as other fixtures roll in

It looks like we're going down the same route as last season by playing fatigued as we're due to play Bristol City the same day as Hereford.

https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/pre-season-fixtures-announced/


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 19, 2023, 11:38:19
thanks


oooh. £5 to dream a friendly. fuck off on principle


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, May 19, 2023, 11:39:45
thanks


oooh. £5 to dream a friendly. fuck off on principle

But they can come true Batch. :)


Title: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 19, 2023, 11:40:56
whatamistaketomake

rumours of QPR and Plymouth too.

reckon we'll publicise before or after it's played?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Friday, May 19, 2023, 11:45:28

I guess what type of team we'll take will be more apparent as other fixtures roll in

We may end up with several games in one day.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Friday, May 19, 2023, 11:46:11
It looks like we're going down the same route as last season by playing fatigued as we're due to play Bristol City the same day as Hereford.

https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/pre-season-fixtures-announced/

That was a total guess, I hadn't read this page yet  :D.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 19, 2023, 11:46:36
soapy tit wank


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, May 19, 2023, 11:53:06
Lindsey's legacy lives on!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Saturday, May 20, 2023, 13:59:09
club confirmed:

 @SupermarineFC - 5 July, 7.45pm
🛣️ @BristolCity - 18 July, 12.30pm
🛣️ @HerefordFC - 18 July, 7.30pm


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: 4D on Saturday, May 20, 2023, 14:16:20
QPR away please


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, May 20, 2023, 14:33:10
Bristol City away at their training ground......that's no fun🤣


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Saturday, May 20, 2023, 14:36:15
Quote from: 4D
QPR away please

could be, if rumours are right


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, May 20, 2023, 14:57:57
Melksham away on 8th July as well - 3pm ko


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Saturday, May 20, 2023, 15:05:26
How does one watch 'Robins TV'

Fucking wankers weren't even the robins until the 70s.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Saturday, May 20, 2023, 16:31:23
Melksham away on 8th July as well - 3pm ko
Oooh! Just down the road for me.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: adje on Saturday, May 20, 2023, 17:44:19
I think we'll see an "Arsenal X1"


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Saturday, May 20, 2023, 17:52:57
ITK or random guess?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, May 20, 2023, 17:59:08
If true it wouldn't be any different from a Pizza Trophy game


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Sunday, May 21, 2023, 10:52:50
Got me Melksham tickets!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Sunday, May 21, 2023, 12:01:21
You come across any Bristol fans around your way


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Sunday, May 21, 2023, 12:14:52
I had a few in Corsham last night and there were a few mouthy Gasheads outside the Royal Oak when I walked past. No idea if they were local or just drop ins. Always used to be mostly Swindon around these ‘ere parts.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Sunday, May 21, 2023, 12:23:59
I did suspect there would be a few around even though it's still Wiltshire


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, May 21, 2023, 12:24:46
I had a few in Corsham last night and there were a few mouthy Gasheads outside the Royal Oak when I walked past. No idea if they were local or just drop ins. Always used to be mostly Swindon around these ‘ere parts.
I think Corsham became more Gas when they moved to Twerton back in the 90s for a while, the fanbase seemed to migrate.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Sunday, May 21, 2023, 12:31:10
Growing up it was just a tiny smattering of Gas and Teds. Looks like in the intervening years I’ve been away - 50 odd - that might have changed!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, May 21, 2023, 12:44:26
Growing up it was just a tiny smattering of Gas and Teds. Looks like in the intervening years I’ve been away - 50 odd - that might have changed!
Back in the late 80's early 90s Rovers didnt have enough stewards so they regularly asked Swindon to hire us.

I stewarded 3 games at Twerton as an "on hire" Steward (not to mention away games, Lords, The Oval and Wembley which we also stewarded, as Swindon was respected as having one of the highest rated Stewards in the league back then).

I remember was in front of about 3 or 4 Corsham Gas flags in the corner of the Rovers fans.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: swindon74 on Sunday, May 21, 2023, 14:35:25
I had a few in Corsham last night and there were a few mouthy Gasheads outside the Royal Oak when I walked past. No idea if they were local or just drop ins. Always used to be mostly Swindon around these ‘ere parts.

Yer the Royal Oak is always has a few knob heads lurking around, you check out the Flemish Weaver, went back in for the first time in years! Very quirky!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Sunday, May 21, 2023, 14:46:36
Was in there last night. My brother was the manager up until a few months ago.


Title: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Sunday, May 21, 2023, 17:58:03
We're heading to @CorshamTownFC for our third friendly of pre-season, on Tuesday 11th July.

⬇️ Tickets are available to purchase now!
---------------------

not sure I've been there before..


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Sunday, May 21, 2023, 17:59:36
Pre-season games are great if fans can go along and watch unlike the Bristol City game behind closed doors.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Sunday, May 21, 2023, 18:15:04
Edited first post but filling up nicely without even a home game yet.

(A) Supermarine - Wednesday 5 July, 7.45pm
(A) Melksham - Saturday 8 July 3pm
(A) Corsham - Tuesday 11 July 7:30pm
(A) Bristol City - Tuesday 18 July, 12.30pm (behind closed doors but on 'Robins TV')
(A) Hereford - Tuesday 18 July, 7.30pm


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Sunday, May 21, 2023, 18:18:35
Are we expecting any games at home against higher league opposition.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Sunday, May 21, 2023, 18:27:21
We're heading to @CorshamTownFC for our third friendly of pre-season, on Tuesday 11th July.

⬇️ Tickets are available to purchase now!
---------------------

not sure I've been there before..
Yay!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: tans on Sunday, May 21, 2023, 18:36:18
Are we expecting any games at home against higher league opposition.

Yes

Qpr and Plymouth i heard


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Sunday, May 21, 2023, 18:38:10
Yes

Qpr and Plymouth i heard

Cheers Tans :clap:


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: MangoRed on Sunday, May 21, 2023, 20:23:27
Edited first post but filling up nicely without even a home game yet.

(A) Supermarine - Wednesday 5 July, 7.45pm
(A) Melksham - Saturday 8 July 3pm
(A) Corsham - Tuesday 11 July 7:30pm
(A) Bristol City - Tuesday 18 July, 12.30pm (behind closed doors but on 'Robins TV')
(A) Hereford - Tuesday 18 July, 7.30pm


Shaping up nicely and good to see it being done early as Last seasons pre season was a fucking shambles. Not only was it shorter than usual, we only played 5 or so games compared to the 9ish you normally play, felt like we was still in pre season for August in all with the ‘fatigued ’performances.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Sunday, May 21, 2023, 20:29:03
QPR seems a solid choice. That would take us to 7 with two home games to higher teams. Get a few more on there and you've got a really solid pre-season.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, May 22, 2023, 08:34:38
Yay!

haha, that's so funny that you move to Corsham and you get a pre-season friendly in your backyard (not literally I assume). Happy days Aud!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: 4D on Monday, May 22, 2023, 08:36:25
He'll be in the Corsham end  ;)


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, May 22, 2023, 08:52:42
He'll be in the Corsham end  ;)

https://www.corshamtownfc.co.uk/Matchreport.aspx?id=649874

Wasn't this the team we lost to in the final of the Wiltshire Shield?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Monday, May 22, 2023, 09:16:36
He'll be in the Corsham end  ;)
Corsham Ultras.

‘You’re gunna get your f**king head kicked in’.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Monday, May 22, 2023, 09:19:26
https://www.corshamtownfc.co.uk/Matchreport.aspx?id=649874

Wasn't this the team we lost to in the final of the Wiltshire Shield?
Nah, that was Westbury. Corsham was one missed penalty away from Wembley this year in the FA Vase.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 22, 2023, 09:26:58
Nah, that was Westbury. Corsham was one missed penalty away from Wembley this year in the FA Vase.
Corsham had a great season too finishing 3rd in the Hellenic Premier losing only 3 games and finishing on 91 points in the same league as Wootton Bassett, Wantage and Fairford.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: 4D on Monday, May 22, 2023, 09:28:01
Corsham Ultras.

‘You’re gunna get your f**king head kicked in’.

It's OK, I'll be stood behind  Knoll Jutty  :)


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Posh Red on Monday, May 22, 2023, 09:36:28
Shame its not in a couple of weeks time, we are staying in Corsham for a week


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Monday, May 22, 2023, 09:43:50
It's OK, I'll be stood behind  Knoll Jutty  :)
The ground is more than a stroll from the nearest pub and parking will be a bitch.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, May 22, 2023, 09:57:31
Nah, that was Westbury. Corsham was one missed penalty away from Wembley this year in the FA Vase.

Westbury United was who I was referring to. It appears they lost 3-0 at home to Corsham Town veterans a few days before we played them.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, May 22, 2023, 09:59:51
The ground is more than a stroll from the nearest pub and parking will be a bitch.

It's less than a mile to the Royal Oak from the ground!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Monday, May 22, 2023, 10:01:43
Bollocks is it.

Nearest is the Methuen Arms in the town. Probably similar to having a drink in Old Town and walking to the CG.

Follow the blue line



Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, May 22, 2023, 10:13:41
Bollocks is it.

Nearest is the Methuen Arms in the town. Probably similar to having a drink in Old Town and walking to the CG.

Follow the blue line



Jesus that's about 1000 yards/0.6 miles (according to google maps :) )


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Monday, May 22, 2023, 10:15:15
That might be a mere hop, skip and jump for you young ‘uns, but for us OAPs it’s a fucking long way on a zimmer!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, May 22, 2023, 10:24:02
That might be a mere hop, skip and jump for you young ‘uns, but for us OAPs it’s a fucking long way on a zimmer!

haha - you should get yourself a mobility scooter Aud!!

 :car:


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: swindon74 on Monday, May 22, 2023, 10:27:27
Corsham cricket club is always good for a pint, cheaper then the Methuen, same walking distance, and you might even catch the end of a game.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 23, 2023, 11:07:56
We're heading to @EastleighFC for the second year in a row!

👏 Tickets for our friendly with the Spitfires will be free for both sets of supporters and available in due course.


22nd July, 1pm


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Private Fraser on Tuesday, May 23, 2023, 18:57:13
Pitch renovation has started:

Day 1

https://twitter.com/cassidymarcus/status/1660669354449436672?s=61&t=pTUdr8xXlQ7vJcn1NU7cbg


Day 2

https://twitter.com/cassidymarcus/status/1661037391409299456?s=61&t=pTUdr8xXlQ7vJcn1NU7cbg





Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Wednesday, May 24, 2023, 05:01:57
Pitch renovation has started:

Day 1

https://twitter.com/cassidymarcus/status/1660669354449436672?s=61&t=pTUdr8xXlQ7vJcn1NU7cbg


Day 2

https://twitter.com/cassidymarcus/status/1661037391409299456?s=61&t=pTUdr8xXlQ7vJcn1NU7cbg





Well done for posting. I hope there’s more to come. Be interesting to know how much money it’s costing?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, May 24, 2023, 08:40:52
Well done for posting. I hope there’s more to come. Be interesting to know how much money it’s costing?

Was on the pitch at the weekend and the state of those sprinkler heads for a pro pitch was shocking - how we didn't get more injuries due to exposed rubber pipes (sprinkler surrounds sitting above the level of the pitch is beyond me.  I know it was after end of season, and you could see during the season they were managing them due to the two distinct markings on the pitch - but it is obvious they are well overdue replacing - probably goes a long way to explaining the decline in our pitch over the last couple of seasons.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Wednesday, May 24, 2023, 08:43:17
Thought the pitch looked tip top at the end of the season - as it always does.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, May 24, 2023, 09:32:06
Thought the pitch looked tip top at the end of the season - as it always does.

The past 2 seasons it has deteriorated significantly, even to the point where at the start of the Garner season we were struggling to avoid getting the first game of the season postponed.

There were some well documented off season reasons for the deteriation, but having seen the state of the irrigation system showing through the surface at the weekend, it's clear that there were lack of investment issues as well, legacy of the remnants of the previous owner circling the plug hole no doubt.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, May 24, 2023, 09:35:19
Didn't they spend a fortune on it in the summer between Power and Clem, I only remember as I thought at the time that the contractor doing it was very brave considering it was public knowledge that Power was trying to put the business into admin if he didn't get his way, albeit I assume they only did it with the money up front!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, May 24, 2023, 09:53:44
Didn't they spend a fortune on it in the summer between Power and Clem, I only remember as I thought at the time that the contractor doing it was very brave considering it was public knowledge that Power was trying to put the business into admin if he didn't get his way, albeit I assume they only did it with the money up front!

They spent on it with a contractor in Marcus's absence, but not necessarily a fortune.  They ended up having to bring in a pitch expert (the guy that used to look after Leicester's pitch and do all of the mental patterns) who helped them get it ready for the season - that wasn't cheap for sure.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Mooneyraker on Wednesday, May 24, 2023, 10:06:15
I think little positive investments/improvements like this slightly alleviate immediate concerns about Clem’s intentions.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Wednesday, May 24, 2023, 10:10:17
Here for the long haul.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, May 24, 2023, 10:22:00
I think little positive investments/improvements like this slightly alleviate immediate concerns about Clem’s intentions.

We did do this sometimes under Power too :) Well the scrape and relay.

The irrigation looked a bit off in that sometimes they literally had to stamp on it to get it to retract at half time.

Its good its being addressed.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Mooneyraker on Wednesday, May 24, 2023, 10:22:32
Here for the long haul.

So we are told!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Wednesday, May 24, 2023, 10:31:20
Can’t keep expecting the worst.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Mooneyraker on Wednesday, May 24, 2023, 10:36:03
Can’t keep expecting the worst.

It’s a hard habit to break after 30+ years of largely “the worst” on the ownership front!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: The Million Pound Man on Wednesday, May 24, 2023, 15:24:42
I think little positive investments/improvements like this slightly alleviate immediate concerns about Clem’s intentions.

Agree, credit it where its due.

The penny pinching rightly gets called out, it is refreshing to see some investment into the playing surface.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Private Fraser on Wednesday, May 24, 2023, 18:19:54
Today’s post:

https://twitter.com/cassidymarcus/status/1661395963284533248?s=61&t=pTUdr8xXlQ7vJcn1NU7cbg


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: scollenstfc on Wednesday, May 24, 2023, 18:21:20
I had a few in Corsham last night and there were a few mouthy Gasheads outside the Royal Oak when I walked past. No idea if they were local or just drop ins. Always used to be mostly Swindon around these ‘ere parts.

The landlord a few years ago was a gas head so a lot of fans started drinking in there. At one point he was wearing a neck brace/frame thing and was still lording it around and necking pints which kind of sums up the clientele it attracted. I’ve considered it a rovers pub since and a few still go there. Probably the worst pub in the centre of Corsham tho.

Clem went to a Corsham match during this season and apparently was talking about setting up a connection between the clubs and to loan players too, and Corsham have done the ground up in preparation for promotion (if they can get it) so not surprised to see a friendly being arranged. Decent bar/club house at the ground too, pool tables etc.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: reeves4england on Thursday, May 25, 2023, 07:56:41
Today’s post:

https://twitter.com/cassidymarcus/status/1661395963284533248?s=61&t=pTUdr8xXlQ7vJcn1NU7cbg
OnLy dOIng thE miDdlE peNNy pInChinG cRoOks


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Private Fraser on Thursday, May 25, 2023, 18:20:54
Two today. He must have seen reeves4england’s post! 😀

https://twitter.com/cassidymarcus/status/1661755151760359424?s=61&t=pTUdr8xXlQ7vJcn1NU7cbg


https://twitter.com/cassidymarcus/status/1661760842491129857?s=61&t=pTUdr8xXlQ7vJcn1NU7cbg


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Thursday, May 25, 2023, 18:31:08
Two today. He must have seen reeves4england’s post! 😀

https://twitter.com/cassidymarcus/status/1661755151760359424?s=61&t=pTUdr8xXlQ7vJcn1NU7cbg


https://twitter.com/cassidymarcus/status/1661760842491129857?s=61&t=pTUdr8xXlQ7vJcn1NU7cbg

For Sale: One dented and rusty watering can. £5 will throw in rusty bucket with a slight leak FOC.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Friday, May 26, 2023, 11:37:54
(https://scontent-man2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/349843540_781731986679093_1565189359262439533_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=ai8RhtGIaDkAX_ofgIs&_nc_ht=scontent-man2-1.xx&oh=00_AfCJ_IUNQl7xZCnwk7i73pSAAKGe3l8TUEqixZTZKkrHbA&oe=6475F46F)


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Quagmire on Friday, May 26, 2023, 11:52:31
Highworth Town away - 15th July


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Friday, May 26, 2023, 12:09:20
Kick off time? Can't see it announced.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Quagmire on Friday, May 26, 2023, 12:10:15
Kick off time? Can't see it announced.

2pm


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Private Fraser on Friday, May 26, 2023, 16:34:20
Pitch renovation Day 5

https://twitter.com/cassidymarcus/status/1662117464602206210?s=61&t=pTUdr8xXlQ7vJcn1NU7cbg


Title: Re: Preseason 23/
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Friday, May 26, 2023, 16:52:09
When we going to see the under soil heating pipes😀


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Friday, May 26, 2023, 16:59:05
Quote from: Jimmy QuitMoaning
When we going to see the under soil heating pipes😀

it's more likely to be a hypocaust


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Friday, May 26, 2023, 17:13:03
it's more likely to be a hypocaust


Where's the Romans when you need them😆


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Monday, May 29, 2023, 10:14:07
Isn’t being a fan strange. After a stupefyingly meh season, I’m already looking forward to the next - probably as I’ll actually be able to attend for the first time in years.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 29, 2023, 10:17:50
Isn’t being a fan strange. After a stupefyingly meh season, I’m already looking forward to the next -
It is strange but TBH I doubt its the ability to actually go its the blindless optimism that things COULD be great in the coming season, something most of us feel until actually proven opposite!

Was talking to Batch and NMH about this very thing last week and I cant help but be expectant for the coming season and miss Swindon football Saturdays already!

Partly though I think some of that is having Flynn in charge, its the massive element of the unknown.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Monday, May 29, 2023, 10:21:09
I think it’s not that blindless next season. Ditched the tippy tappy stuff, pragmatic manager, new players (yay). I just pray he starts off well cos the bellends will soon jump on him.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 29, 2023, 10:25:33
I think it’s not that blindless next season. Ditched the tippy tappy stuff, pragmatic manager, new players (yay). I just pray he starts off well cos the bellends will soon jump on him.
Absolutely agree.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Private Fraser on Tuesday, May 30, 2023, 14:48:04
 Pitch renovations catch-up:

https://twitter.com/CassidyMarcus/status/1662363883271602177?s=20

https://twitter.com/CassidyMarcus/status/1662766023718707200?s=20

https://twitter.com/CassidyMarcus/status/1663162640456114177?s=20

https://twitter.com/CassidyMarcus/status/1663514549394329601?s=20

https://twitter.com/CassidyMarcus/status/1663547079682330624?s=20


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Leggett on Tuesday, May 30, 2023, 15:55:13
Love seeing all the pitch stuff, some investment in the systems finally, hope it pays off!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Kinky Tom on Tuesday, May 30, 2023, 16:21:02
He's very clearly been fantastic at his job for many years, great that he's been given furthur tools to do an even better job going forward.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Private Fraser on Wednesday, May 31, 2023, 16:05:12
Today’s pitch activity….

https://twitter.com/cassidymarcus/status/1663823076088332288?s=61&t=pTUdr8xXlQ7vJcn1NU7cbg

https://twitter.com/cassidymarcus/status/1663847213896794112?s=61&t=pTUdr8xXlQ7vJcn1NU7cbg



Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Private Fraser on Thursday, June 1, 2023, 16:45:38
Day 11 of pitch renovation.

https://twitter.com/cassidymarcus/status/1664199036843307011?s=61&t=pTUdr8xXlQ7vJcn1NU7cbg


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Private Fraser on Friday, June 2, 2023, 18:52:34
 https://twitter.com/cassidymarcus/status/1664575998753423362?s=61&t=pTUdr8xXlQ7vJcn1NU7cbg


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: tans on Wednesday, June 7, 2023, 15:56:42
Plymouth home friendly


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, June 7, 2023, 15:58:52
Plymouth home friendly

Sat 29 July, 3pm

And it looks lie that's over and out. underwhelming


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Wednesday, June 7, 2023, 16:07:55
Good number of away fixtures. Would have liked one better home tie.

Probably more about numbers than it is anything else and there is enough of them now.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Wednesday, June 7, 2023, 16:10:57
(A) Supermarine - Wednesday 5 July, 7.45pm
(A) Melksham - Saturday 8 July 3pm
(A) Corsham - Tuesday 11 July 7:30pm
(A) Bristol City - Tuesday 18 July, 12.30pm (behind closed doors but on 'Robins TV')
(A) Hereford - Tuesday 18 July, 7.30pm
(A) Eastleigh - Saturday 22 July 1pm
(H) Plymouth - Satturday 29 July 3pm


Is this them all then? Not as many as I thought actually. Would like another home tie at least.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, June 7, 2023, 16:11:33

Probably more about numbers than it is anything else and there is enough of them now.

And bigger teams wanting to play us (or not) we don't really have a 'big' neighbour to play and the big boys tend to piss off somewhere emerging, lucrative and hot these days.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Wednesday, June 7, 2023, 16:14:01
And bigger teams wanting to play us (or not) we don't really have a 'big' neighbour to play and the big boys tend to piss off somewhere hot these days.

And the police not wanting us to play anyone that local. The 'preseason friendly' vs Cardiff, kickoff moved forward on police advice always makes me chuckle.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Wednesday, June 7, 2023, 16:14:32
That’s the complete schedule according to the clubs latest tweet. I’ll do Supermarine and Plymouth I expect - shame Hereford is midweek.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Wednesday, June 7, 2023, 16:18:38
(A) Supermarine - Wednesday 5 July, 7.45pm
(A) Melksham - Saturday 8 July 3pm
(A) Corsham - Tuesday 11 July 7:30pm
(A) Bristol City - Tuesday 18 July, 12.30pm (behind closed doors but on 'Robins TV')
(A) Hereford - Tuesday 18 July, 7.30pm
(A) Eastleigh - Saturday 22 July 1pm
(H) Plymouth - Satturday 29 July 3pm


Is this them all then? Not as many as I thought actually. Would like another home tie at least.
Presume the pitch renovations has curtailed the home friendlies.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Wednesday, June 7, 2023, 16:19:58
I can’t think of too many recent seasons where we have had more than one home friendly. Did we play Everton and West Brom around 2016 sort of time?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Posh Red on Wednesday, June 7, 2023, 16:20:37
Presume the pitch renovations has curtailed the home friendlies.

I guess it has, they may have wanted another one but can’t announce it if the pitch isn’t going to be ready


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, June 7, 2023, 16:20:52
And the police not wanting us to play anyone that local. The 'preseason friendly' vs Cardiff, kickoff moved forward on police advice always makes me chuckle.

This is it, I think we really struggle with geography here, we ain't going to play Oxford or any either of the Bristol teams (except BCD), Reading isn't going to inspire anyone and who else is there?

Similar to Barrow round here who have Holker Old Boys, FCU Manchester Oldham and Newcastle under 21's (who I imagine equally struggle to find people to play pre-season).


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, June 7, 2023, 16:20:56
Look, all I want from pre-season is a raft of trialists and the excitement of working out who someone is from a picture of the back of their head 50 yards away.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Wednesday, June 7, 2023, 16:21:52
It is two Championship teams tbf. Just a shame that one is behind closed doors and the other is Plymouth.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, June 7, 2023, 16:22:00
shame Hereford is midweek.

yeah, and I'd expect that to be the stronger fixture than the City on the same day. Surely that's not City's first team?

Supermarine and Melksham are great local clubs but I'm bored of them! They do have strong ties with us I suppose.

Can't be arsed to traipse to Eastleigh, i'd imagine.

Just wanted a couple of local different grounds. Like when we did Brimscombe and Thrupp.
------
But hey, its all personal opinion ain't it. Looking at Plymouth's pre-season its just the same.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, June 7, 2023, 16:28:58
I can’t think of too many recent seasons where we have had more than one home friendly. Did we play Everton and West Brom around 2016 sort of time?
Didn't we even play Liverpool that year? Well.. a Liverpool XI at least....


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Wednesday, June 7, 2023, 16:43:44
Didn't we even play Liverpool that year? Well.. a Liverpool XI at least....

Around 15,000 sell out too


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, June 7, 2023, 16:54:26
Thank God... I didn't dream it🤣... I remember thinking at the time that all those home fixtures v Prem opposition were all pretty meaningless... I mean even more meaningless than other friendlies... could have probably got a better workout against FL or deecent NL opposition...


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, June 7, 2023, 16:55:32
Southampton and West ham in the invincibile year?

Tottenham and someone.. Birmingham?

we played twice on successive nights


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Wednesday, June 7, 2023, 16:57:22
Wasn't it the case that the home team would have to fork out a fee to host more illustrious opposition in preseason?

Bigger the name the larger the fee, but more chance of offsetting with a bigger attendance.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, June 7, 2023, 17:04:17
yeah, at least that's what I remember

wonder how much we're getting from Plymouth 😁


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, June 7, 2023, 17:07:58
yeah, at least that's what I remember

wonder how much we're getting from Plymouth 😁
:D


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Posh Red on Wednesday, June 7, 2023, 17:22:04
I remember playing West Ham one year, and thinking all of their players were physically much bigger and stronger than us.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Wednesday, June 7, 2023, 17:34:14
Thank God... I didn't dream it🤣... I remember thinking at the time that all those home fixtures v Prem opposition were all pretty meaningless... I mean even more meaningless than other friendlies... could have probably got a better workout against FL or deecent NL opposition...

Don't forget we had a decent workout against Supermarine and ended up fatigued😀


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Mooneyraker on Wednesday, June 7, 2023, 17:36:56
I remember playing West Ham one year, and thinking all of their players were physically much bigger and stronger than us.


Hartson got stick for being massively overweight


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: singingiiiffy on Wednesday, June 7, 2023, 18:08:19
Southampton and West ham in the invincibile year?

Tottenham and someone.. Birmingham?

we played twice on successive nights

I do miss premier league preseason fixtures. Gareth bale scored an amazing goal at the cg just days before his real Madrid transfer. Most expensive player to grace the cg pitch?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, June 7, 2023, 18:21:40
And the police not wanting us to play anyone that local. The 'preseason friendly' vs Cardiff, kickoff moved forward on police advice always makes me chuckle.

I attended this one......

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/18-charged-over-swindon-town-2065812?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Wednesday, June 7, 2023, 18:33:32
I can remember playing Bristol City at home pre-season 1980 lots of trouble and again in the mid 2000's


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Mr Stevens on Wednesday, June 7, 2023, 21:51:10
I remember playing West Ham one year, and thinking all of their players were physically much bigger and stronger than us.


I vaguely remember beating West Ham in a pre-season and getting relegated 10 months later.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, June 7, 2023, 21:57:24
Didn't we even play Liverpool that year? Well.. a Liverpool XI at least....

I am pretty sure that this game was Roberto Firmino's first game for Liverpool, and Vigoroux nearly broke him in half in the first 10 minutes on his debut for us, while on trial from Liverpool :D


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Thursday, June 8, 2023, 07:05:44
spot on Berni


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: tans on Thursday, June 8, 2023, 07:57:03
I am pretty sure that this game was Roberto Firmino's first game for Liverpool, and Vigoroux nearly broke him in half in the first 10 minutes on his debut for us, while on trial from Liverpool :D

Benteke scored an absolute screamer and James Brophy was a trialist


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, June 8, 2023, 08:04:21
I am pretty sure that this game was Roberto Firmino's first game for Liverpool, and Vigoroux nearly broke him in half in the first 10 minutes on his debut for us, while on trial from Liverpool :D

I was there, it was a nice day out from memory. Vigs nearly saved their winner but it looped up in the air and under the bar sadly.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Thursday, June 8, 2023, 08:33:47
Don't forget we had a decent workout against Supermarine and ended up fatigued😀
Indeed :doh:


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: adje on Thursday, June 8, 2023, 10:40:16
Benteke scored an absolute screamer and James Brophy was a trialist
Ours was a cracking finish too. Obika


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Thursday, June 8, 2023, 11:47:16
I do miss premier league preseason fixtures. Gareth bale scored an amazing goal at the cg just days before his real Madrid transfer. Most expensive player to grace the cg pitch?

That is really what is missing but along with the pitch not being ready until late, its all the big boys going to the states and other places. Was thinking even a Fulham would have been alright but even they're in the US right towards the end July. Maybe could have squeezed someone like that in before if the pitch was ready.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Mooneyraker on Thursday, June 8, 2023, 11:54:16
I’d like to see us try and pull together a Copa Ibiza effort in future years.

Plenty of mid ranking European teams that aren’t chasing the Yankee dollars in the “off season.”


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Thursday, June 8, 2023, 11:57:01
Remember Vitesse Arnhem


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Kinky Tom on Thursday, June 8, 2023, 12:00:24
There's plenty of Championship clubs that would be a decent 'showpiece' home friendly in the event of the PL teams all heading off in their various directions around the world.

Norwich, Watford and 'Boro spring to mind if we could insist on their 1st team squad travelling and playing. Then you have Hull, Stoke, Swansea, QPR and WBA etc.

Derby, Portsmouth, Charlton, Wednesday and Bolton wouldn't be too bad even if we had to dip into L1 to get a fixture.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, June 8, 2023, 12:03:58
Hamburg's finest St Pauli are playing at Dunfermline's East End Park in a pre-season friendly. that's kinda cool.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Thursday, June 8, 2023, 12:06:42
Remember Vitesse Arnhem

Ah the good old Borsele voetbaltoernooi te Nieuwdorp.

We won, so it wasn't a bridge too far.

Noticed a few pre seasons in the 90's spent in Finland as well.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, June 8, 2023, 12:11:54
Remember Vitesse Arnhem
Was that under Hoddle I cant remember, the only Dutch team I do remember was us beating top flight Roda Kerkrade JC in 1979.

They had 4 current Holland internationals in the side including the goalkeeper Jan Jongblod who played in the WC finals of 1974 and 1978 as well as Theo De Jong, Dick Nanninga who took part and another player Pierre Vermeulen who was in the 1978 squad.

We beat them 4-1 and Kamara missed a penalty.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: THE FLASH on Thursday, June 8, 2023, 12:26:36
Pre Season is a bit shit..

Hope we lose the lot....we always have a stormer when we do!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Thursday, June 8, 2023, 13:02:34
Ah the good old Borsele voetbaltoernooi te Nieuwdorp.

We won, so it wasn't a bridge too far.

Noticed a few pre seasons in the 90's spent in Finland as well.
How did we ever get that ‘friendly’ v Fenerbache when Cox scored that worldy?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Thursday, June 8, 2023, 13:13:21
How did we ever get that ‘friendly’ v Fenerbache when Cox scored that worldy?

Didn't even have a kit.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, June 8, 2023, 13:17:10
How did we ever get that ‘friendly’ v Fenerbache when Cox scored that worldy?

I assume it must have been some sort of tournament in Austria where we happened to be doing preseason? I knew that Kezman scored their goal, but I wasn't aware that Roberto Carlos played for them??

http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/MatchCentre.asp?Friendly=YES&MatchID=2009802000

Also note we thumped them 5-1  in a friendly in 1953....


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, June 8, 2023, 13:20:32
I assume it must have been some sort of tournament in Austria where we happened to be doing preseason? I knew that Kezman scored their goal, but I wasn't aware that Roberto Carlos played for them??

http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/MatchCentre.asp?Friendly=YES&MatchID=2009802000

Also note we thumped them 5-1  in a friendly in 1953....
Yes Carlos was shit that day, he took one direct free kick and put it so far over the bar and Macnamee was running rings round him at times.

It was good to be able to watch a pre season game in full on Fenerbahçe's own tv station on tinterweb well before ifollow etc.

They has us on screen as Swindown Town :)


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, June 8, 2023, 13:23:31
Was summer 2008 the summer of the Best Holdings debacle?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, June 8, 2023, 13:26:12
Year after.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: sir windon on Thursday, June 8, 2023, 13:32:53
Remember Vitesse Arnhem

Extensive highlights here. Lots of fans from this bygone era can be spotted in the last 7 minutes or so.
https://youtu.be/cfAjikvqTNQ


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Thursday, June 8, 2023, 13:38:36
20 years since Jimmy Davis death soon. We could have gone to Redditch.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Thursday, June 8, 2023, 16:00:29
I wonder if the Eastleigh fixture coincides with a player Town might be signing...

Someone like;

6' 5'' CDM/CB Ousseynou Cissé - 32yrs

or

6'1 RCB Christian Maghoma - 25yrs


Someone like either of them would be pretty decent, especially Maghoma would really is trying to kickstart from the bottom after being a Spurs Academy lad. Good full season at NL with Eastleigh. Probably more than capable at League Two level. Cissé is older and more versatile. Probably fits the Anthony Grant mould of player and at 6' 5'' he's not a small lad...Aud would sign him up for sure.

Both seem like types that Flynn might try to sign as well. Maghoma contract expires end of the month and Cissé is a free agent after being released. Strange as it looks like he had a decent season :hmmm:


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Private Fraser on Thursday, June 8, 2023, 16:09:12
It’s just like watching grass grow.

https://twitter.com/cassidymarcus/status/1666748710376685569?s=61&t=pTUdr8xXlQ7vJcn1NU7cbg


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Power to people on Friday, June 9, 2023, 12:39:19
Anyone know when the players are due back for pre-season training


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Friday, June 9, 2023, 16:46:48
Normally around the first week in July


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, June 9, 2023, 16:49:00
Normally around the first week in July

Are you sure? Our first pre-season game is 5th July. Is it not about 2 weeks before that or something?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: UTR on Friday, June 9, 2023, 16:49:29
Think they’re usually in for testing in late June


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Posh Red on Friday, June 9, 2023, 16:50:56
Anyone know when the players are due back for pre-season training

Thought someone said it was one day next week


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Friday, June 9, 2023, 16:54:25
Are you sure? Our first pre-season game is 5th July. Is it not about 2 weeks before that or something?

Maybe slightly earlier Bob but normally you would expect them to go in on the Thursday & Friday for testing 29th & 30th June and proper preseason would start on Monday 3rd July.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, June 9, 2023, 17:05:29
Maybe slightly earlier Bob but normally you would expect them to go in on the Thursday & Friday for testing 29th & 30th June and proper preseason would start on Monday 3rd July.


Vincent Kompany already has Burnley back for their pre-season.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Friday, June 9, 2023, 17:34:11
Vincent Kompany already has Burnley back for their pre-season.

I did see that so maybe many clubs will be going back earlier than normal


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Riddick on Friday, June 9, 2023, 17:38:17
Vincent Kompany already has Burnley back for their pre-season.

Yeah thats the earliest i have ever been aware a team has been back. I always had 6 weeks in my head as a good preseason. Given the first week is normally light work and testing. That would mean last week of June. So I would expect them in on the 26th.

Hopefully things liven up in the next couple of weeks.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: tans on Friday, June 9, 2023, 17:49:27
Dont forget season starts first weekend of august

Judging by players socials, looks like most of them are back in the UK now


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Friday, June 9, 2023, 17:56:14
Good point Tans as I thought the season started around the 12th August so expect them back earlier than normal.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Berniman on Friday, June 9, 2023, 18:18:45
Vincent Kompany already has Burnley back for their pre-season.

Tbf, their season ended about a month before everyone else’s


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, June 9, 2023, 19:39:25
Tbf, their season ended about a month before everyone else’s

Good point!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Private Fraser on Sunday, June 11, 2023, 19:23:13
Pitch updates:

https://twitter.com/cassidymarcus/status/1667075968467443713?s=61&t=pTUdr8xXlQ7vJcn1NU7cbg

https://twitter.com/cassidymarcus/status/1667812864449445889?s=61&t=pTUdr8xXlQ7vJcn1NU7cbg


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, June 13, 2023, 09:36:51
Players back into training two weeks tomorrow.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, June 13, 2023, 09:38:42
Players back into training two weeks tomorrow.
Yeah previously it has normally been between the 26th and 28th June for a normal early August season start.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Private Fraser on Saturday, June 17, 2023, 17:59:19
Today’s pitch update.

https://twitter.com/cassidymarcus/status/1669614493125562370?s=61&t=pTUdr8xXlQ7vJcn1NU7cbg


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, June 17, 2023, 18:30:39
Great memories Martin Tyler, Danny Ward v Chelsea


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Riddick on Wednesday, June 21, 2023, 14:25:57
I'm sure they are doing a great job, but there seems to be massive gaps around the sprinklers, or have my eyes gone?

https://twitter.com/Official_STFC/status/1671518339011854336


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, June 21, 2023, 14:53:21
I'm sure they are doing a great job, but there seems to be massive gaps around the sprinklers, or have my eyes gone?

https://twitter.com/Official_STFC/status/1671518339011854336

I suspect that they know what they are doing.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Riddick on Wednesday, June 21, 2023, 14:59:43
I suspect that they know what they are doing.

Of course. But you see it right?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, June 21, 2023, 15:03:16
Of course. But you see it right?

Do you mean broadly at the edge of the 'D' if the pitch were marked out.

My, entirely uninformed, suspicion would be that you add that bit at the end once the rest has settled and you test the sprinkler system  works?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Kinky Tom on Wednesday, June 21, 2023, 15:04:33
Given it's a complete reboot of the pitch with good investment, the sprinklers are probably sunk into the pitch periscope style.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, June 21, 2023, 16:15:24
https://www.eticketing.co.uk/swindontown/EDP/Event/Index/781?position=1

Plymouth tickets are available now. Only the Arkells open. £15 adults, £5 concessions, £2 U11.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Wednesday, June 21, 2023, 16:19:23
https://www.eticketing.co.uk/swindontown/EDP/Event/Index/781?position=1

Plymouth tickets are available now. Only the Arkells open. £15 adults, £5 concessions, £2 U11.

Not surprised only the Arkells is open if they're charging 15 sheet for a friendly.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Riddick on Wednesday, June 21, 2023, 17:02:20
Not surprised only the Arkells is open if they're charging 15 sheet for a friendly.

Those are the times we are in. If the non league clubs we are playing charge 12, no reason we can't charge 15. Such is the world with inflation.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Wednesday, June 21, 2023, 21:34:06
Feel like they could have got a decent crowd in with tenner a ticket though, more than making it for it.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Lemis on Wednesday, June 21, 2023, 23:04:01
Those are the times we are in. If the non league clubs we are playing charge 12, no reason we can't charge 15. Such is the world with inflation.

When we're playing local non-league teams in a preseason friendly, it'll be one of there biggest crowds of the season, so £12 tickets makes sense. If we're playing a club which many perceive to be of similar stature to us, it's going to be a small crowd, and now probably even smaller still at £15.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Moss on Wednesday, June 21, 2023, 23:47:32
I do miss premier league preseason fixtures. Gareth bale scored an amazing goal at the cg just days before his real Madrid transfer. Most expensive player to grace the cg pitch?

I took my SLR camera to that match for some reason (new zoom lens toy) and got some great photos - one of Pritchard standing next to Bale springs to mind where it looked like a first teamer v under 15's. Also a pic of Bale controlling the ball on the touch line when he just looked like he was from another planet. Who have we got this season? Wootton Bassett B and Trowbridge? How far we have fallen.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Thursday, June 22, 2023, 05:19:33
I took my SLR camera to that match for some reason (new zoom lens toy) and got some great photos - one of Pritchard standing next to Bale springs to mind where it looked like a first teamer v under 15's. Also a pic of Bale controlling the ball on the touch line when he just looked like he was from another planet. Who have we got this season? Wootton Bassett B and Trowbridge? How far we have fallen.


I don’t think it’s us that have fallen as much as it’s the rise of pre-season tours abroad to sell merchandise and increase the customer base.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Thursday, June 22, 2023, 05:22:23
I can’t imagine (m)any L1 & L2 clubs get proper pre-season games against Premier League teams and any that do end up playing against a ‘select XI’ which will basically be all the kids left over who didn’t travel to the States for the Orange Mustang AT&T Superbowl Cup.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: RobertT on Thursday, June 22, 2023, 12:10:28
I can’t imagine (m)any L1 & L2 clubs get proper pre-season games against Premier League teams and any that do end up playing against a ‘select XI’ which will basically be all the kids left over who didn’t travel to the States for the Orange Mustang AT&T Superbowl Cup.

Wrexham are actually playing in that one.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: UTR on Monday, June 26, 2023, 09:59:53
Are the players back in today?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Monday, June 26, 2023, 10:01:41
Wednesday, I think.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: 4D on Monday, June 26, 2023, 11:55:45
I might pop along to Marine a week Wednesday


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Monday, June 26, 2023, 17:56:20
Looks like the friendly at Eastleigh is a sell out. They’ve got a couple of hundred left, we have sold all but 50.

I say sell, but it is free entry.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Tuesday, June 27, 2023, 14:20:43
Keeping this away from the transfer rumours thread.

I'm guessing that the relatively quiescent masses, thus far, will be dusting down the alarm bells if there aren't any new signinngs announced before the week is out.

I'd be disappointed if there weren't one or two in the bag before Saturday.

It's a case of whatever it takes to get out of L2 this season.
If that means 2 or 3 top of the range loans (for L2) coming in towards the end of the window then so be it.
I have some trust that Flynn will get this right.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: THE FLASH on Tuesday, June 27, 2023, 14:24:44
I do hope that we have 90% of the squad in place by the season start...nowt worse getting it all in place with 6 games gone.

In Flynn we trust!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: joeydubya on Tuesday, June 27, 2023, 14:27:57
Looks like the friendly at Eastleigh is a sell out. They’ve got a couple of hundred left, we have sold all but 50.

I say sell, but it is free entry.

Imagine a friendly for free!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Saturday, July 1, 2023, 06:26:14
I see Bristol Women Beaters beat Melksham 9-0 last night. Bit of a benchmark.

Att. 2014


Title: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 4, 2023, 11:26:03
Our pre-season friendly @MelkshamTownFC on Saturday 8th July will now kick-off at 2pm, instead of 3pm.

#STFC supporters, book your tickets in advance here:

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/pre-season-friendly-melksham-town-fc-v-swindon-town-fc-tickets-639755183977


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Tuesday, July 4, 2023, 11:27:02
I’ll be there!

New KO Requested by STFC


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Tuesday, July 4, 2023, 11:47:42


New KO Requested by STFC

Ah, that's good.
The 16:51 had better be running.
Being stranded in Melksham until 21:34 doesn't get the juices flowing.
Attendance is dependent on some new faces though.
Three & a bit days for some scarves to be held aloft.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Mooneyraker on Tuesday, July 4, 2023, 12:09:36
Flynn talking about Supermarine: "It's come a little earlier than I would have liked..."

Is he just a whingebag? Did he not agree the schedule?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, July 4, 2023, 12:12:31
Forgive me if I’m repeating what May have been said before but the pitch updates have gone missing.


Title: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 4, 2023, 12:13:33
Quote
I remember playing West Ham one year, and thinking all of their players were physically much bigger and stronger than us.
it makes it less likely for me

were they going to charge us £1.50 for the floodlights or something?

it's all good, an hour will make no difference to most


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 4, 2023, 12:14:18
Quote from: Legends-Lounge
Forgive me if I’m repeating what May have been said before but the pitch updates have gone missing.

did you not see that Marcus may no longer be employed


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Tuesday, July 4, 2023, 12:18:12
Flynn talking about Supermarine: "It's come a little earlier than I would have liked..."

Is he just a whingebag? Did he not agree the schedule?
Perhaps he means 2pm instead of 3pm!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, July 4, 2023, 12:23:53
did you not see that Marcus may no longer be employed

I did. And I have seen the pitch…. Just assumed that the pics were there. Though I can understand why they’re not.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, July 4, 2023, 12:26:08
Was thinking of going to Hereford (A) but noticed we are also (A) to the slave trading wife beaters on the same day. I cannot say I’m keen about going to Hereford to see a team of trialists and academy players.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Tuesday, July 4, 2023, 12:30:25
Was thinking of going to Hereford (A) but noticed we are also (A) to the slave trading wife beaters on the same day. I cannot say I’m keen about going to Hereford to see a team of trialists and academy players.

Would expect a mix at both.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, July 4, 2023, 12:52:58
Was thinking of going to Hereford (A) but noticed we are also (A) to the slave trading wife beaters on the same day. I cannot say I’m keen about going to Hereford to see a team of trialists and academy players.

City game is BCD albeit streamed for a fiver.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, July 4, 2023, 12:59:48
City game is BCD albeit streamed for a fiver.

I know that, I won’t be paying a fiver as I’ll be at work. So I refer to my OP. Other than paying to get into Edgar St. there’s the fuel and usual out of pocket expenses to consider.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Tuesday, July 4, 2023, 19:00:42
Tickets on sale for Colchester today.
Just got my 4


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Whingy the poo on Tuesday, July 4, 2023, 21:08:46

Planning to do Melksham on Saturday for the first time.

Can anyone advise on where to park please?   :sherlock:


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, July 4, 2023, 21:55:25
Planning to do Melksham on Saturday for the first time.

Can anyone advise on where to park please?   :sherlock:

You going to fight the six fingered sister shagging bumpkin yokels single handedly then?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bogus Dave on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 04:24:43
The huge car park right outside the ground


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: The Grim Reaper on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 06:19:30
Planning to do Melksham on Saturday for the first time.

Can anyone advise on where to park please?   :sherlock:

Brand new housing estate right next to it with a long entrance road, plenty of space.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: tans on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 07:34:54
Anyone actually going tonight? Turns out i have a free evening now


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 07:36:37
Anyone actually going tonight? Turns out i have a free evening now

Its definitely a 7.45 ko isn't it? I checked the Livescore app last night to see when the England Under 21 games were on and noticed it had our game with Supermarine kicking off at 1pm. I've just checked today and it's reverted to an evening ko, which I assume is accurate?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 08:17:19
Anyone actually going tonight? Turns out i have a free evening now

Be there nice and early.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Posh Red on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 08:45:12
Tickets on sale for Colchester today.
Just got my 4

Did you have to register on the Colchester site to get them?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 08:46:42
POTD available for an extra £2


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 08:56:55
Quote from: tans
Anyone actually going tonight? Turns out i have a free evening now

I know this is poor form, but I've done it so many times I don't think I can be arsed given the lack of new players

I will no doubt regret it when we have 10 trialists


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 08:58:10
Get yerself to Corsham next week


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Whingy the poo on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 09:40:13

Thank you Dave and Grimmy.  :)


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 11:01:31
Its definitely a 7.45 ko isn't it? I checked the Livescore app last night to see when the England Under 21 games were on and noticed it had our game with Supermarine kicking off at 1pm. I've just checked today and it's reverted to an evening ko, which I assume is accurate?

When I drove by Supermarine at the weekend it said 7.45.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 11:59:17
Did you have to register on the Colchester site to get them?

Yes but I did that 2 seasons ago.
They offer Military or NHS discount so £13 for an adult


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Briggany on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 12:03:54
Get yerself to Corsham next week

I have tickets to go see this game, looking forward to it as I was at the Corsham FA Vase semi (or quarter) final game and had a great day.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Posh Red on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 15:01:25
Yes but I did that 2 seasons ago.
They offer Military or NHS discount so £13 for an adult

I registered & got mine for £18, also booked parking for £7


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Processed Beats on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 17:50:31
Three trialists in the squad tonight. I assume one is Moore-Taylor.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Hyabb17 on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 17:51:43
No Devine, Darcy in the squad.


Title: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 17:52:33
good spot

not a dig, but is devine fit? not sure what his last injury was


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Hyabb17 on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 17:54:06
good spot

not a dig, but is devine fit? not sure what his last injury was

He has been pictured in training but it could be too early I guess.


Title: Re: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: chrisser on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 17:59:04
No Devine, Darcy in the squad.
Or Minturn

Sent from my SM-A346B


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 18:17:05
I thought Devine was still injured.

Trying to work out formation from the starting 11 seen as it has Hutton, Shade & Lavinier in.

I’ve got 352 but with one of Hutton/Lavinier in at CB


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nijholts Nuts on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 18:19:25
Is there any sort of Comms tonight?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 18:26:17
Nothing against Shade but hope he's not in Flynns first eleven line up come August.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 18:28:54
Nothing against Shade but hope he's not in Flynns first eleven line up come August.

I think with all of them it should be a case of wait and see what Flynn can do with them before we write them off…


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 18:30:13
Shade was very popular at Walsall under Flynn. There is a player in there i tell ya


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Hyabb17 on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 18:30:58
From the Adver blog - No Ronan Darcy, Harrison Minturn, or Reece Devine for Swindon tonight. They are injured but expected to be back soon.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Hyabb17 on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 18:35:52
Jordan Taylor Moore is the number 3. A mate of mine is there.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 18:36:49
I think with all of them it should be a case of wait and see what Flynn can do with them before we write them off…
I agree. Lindsey/Morris isn’t much of a benchmark when it comes to utilising players to the best of their abilities. I’d imagine/hope Adeloye must be chomping at the bit.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 18:39:49
Darcy is there in a tracksuit, according to my man with the long lens in the bushes.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Super Hans on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 18:40:24
I agree. Lindsey/Morris isn’t much of a benchmark when it comes to utilising players to the best of their abilities. I’d imagine/hope Adeloye must be chomping at the bit.

Would love for Adeloye to bag a couple tonight and kick on.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 18:41:10
I registered & got mine for £18, also booked parking for £7

It's not a bad price including parking and a free program, and against general opinion I actually like the ground. Just a shame we haven't won their on my last 2 occasions


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 18:42:33
Does anyone have a line up to guage who he has opted to go with? Also anyone any ideas on the trialists?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Hyabb17 on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 18:43:39
Does anyone have a line up to guage who he has opted to go with? Also anyone any ideas on the trialists?

Number 3 is Jordan Taylor Moore, Lewis Ward is another one on the bench


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 18:45:39
Does anyone have a line up to guage who he has opted to go with? Also anyone any ideas on the trialists?
Mahoney, Hutton, Trialist A, Blake-Tracy, McEachran, Brown, Hepburn-Murphy, Cain, Shade, Lavinier, Adeloye.

SUBS: Brann, Trialist B, Clayton, Khan, Kanu, Fox, Brewitt, Wakeling, Hart, Trialist C, Toombs, Keyes, McGregor, Dworzak, Aguiar, Austin.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 18:45:52
I think with all of them it should be a case of wait and see what Flynn can do with them before we write them off…

Maybe just hope he can find some consistency under Flynn.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 18:48:22
Somebody posted Lavinier is playing as an overlapping RCB


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 18:52:05
Mahoney, Hutton, Trialist A, Blake-Tracy, McEachran, Brown, Hepburn-Murphy, Cain, Shade, Lavinier, Adeloye.

SUBS: Brann, Trialist B, Clayton, Khan, Kanu, Fox, Brewitt, Wakeling, Hart, Trialist C, Toombs, Keyes, McGregor, Dworzak, Aguiar, Austin.

Thanks.
Well it isn't the worse side I've seen us put out so it's up to them to make a go of it for themselves. Is Ward is on the bench as a trialist? Thought I read somewhere he was on the bench 🤷

Yep just read it again courtesy of Hyabb. Do we have to name him as a trialist as he has been training with the club for a whole now


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: JoeMezz on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 18:58:23
Are we winning yet? Flynn out!!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 18:59:53
I wonder if the players will be fatigued later on😆


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 19:02:31
Cain. 1-0. Flynn in

‘ SWINDON SUPERMARINE 0 SWINDON TOWN 1 (Cain 20)

Town opening the scoring after a bit of brave play from Adeloye allows Cain to weave himself into a shooting position just outside the box. The midfielder shifted the ball onto his left 20 yards out and curled into the bottom left corner.’


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Lemis on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 19:17:17
Weird there isn't any score updates from the club on social media


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 19:20:13
Adver are doing it


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Lemis on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 19:22:34
Adver are doing it

Ah cool thanks, that makes it easier than trying to follow random tweets.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 19:24:07
Brann on in goal. Ward on bench.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Kaufman on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 19:31:20
The back 3 of JMT FBT LAV makes sense with FBT in the middle and JMT on left. FBT cutting through the middle just as he did down the left. Like Nathan T did all those years ago. Lav I don’t think will be a starter unless Hutton goes.
A fast right sided proper CB will be needed.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 19:33:14
Didn’t we lose to this lot last pre season?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 19:36:25
Didn’t we lose to this lot last pre season?
Yes, 2-0....the infamous (to me anyway) "I'm really pleased as I wanted to see us playing fatigued" Scott Lyndsey game...


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 19:41:44
Just for a bit of context - FGR are losing at Melksham.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 19:46:28
2nd half line up

STFC second-half XI: Brann, Clayton, Hart, Brewitt, Fox, Aguiar, Austin, Dworzak, Hepburn-Murphy, Khan, Hart.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 19:51:02
Guess that confirms that Harvey Fox is still with the club - think on an extended scholarship rather than full pro terms.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: newmarket red on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 19:51:58
Any news on other trialists?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 19:54:56
1 is Ward


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 20:01:31
Cain. 1-0. Flynn in

‘ SWINDON SUPERMARINE 0 SWINDON TOWN 1 (Cain 20)

Town opening the scoring after a bit of brave play from Adeloye allows Cain to weave himself into a shooting position just outside the box. The midfielder shifted the ball onto his left 20 yards out and curled into the bottom left corner.’

Big player this season, mark my words *crosses fingers*


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 20:05:20
2nd half line up

STFC second-half XI: Brann, Clayton, Hart, Brewitt, Fox, Aguiar, Austin, Dworzak, Hepburn-Murphy, Khan, Hart.

2 Harts? We building a foundation?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: tans on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 20:05:26
2-0 Brewitt


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 20:06:26
Who is higher in the pyramid - Supermarine or Melksham?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 20:06:45
Who is higher in the pyramid - Supermarine or Melksham?

Marine.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 20:07:19
2 Harts? We building a foundation?

DiV will be delighted!

Bright pink Spandex away kit.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 20:12:56
Anyone know who No. 19 is, Trialist C.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 20:18:01
Someone on twitter said trialist c is Ward now in goal? Is that not right it's a an outfield player?

Also seen on twitter Wakeling with a pack of ice strapped to his leg.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 20:20:22
2 Harts? We building a foundation?

Nemo is right - like this.

Let’s hope they are the best there is…etc…


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 20:21:33
DiV will be delighted!

Bright pink Spandex away kit.

Pink and black football kits are decent. Palermo or some Juventus away ones.

Need to sign a real bulldog in defensive midfield to join them.



Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 20:23:27
Someone on twitter said trialist c is Ward now in goal? Is that not right it's a an outfield player?

Also seen on twitter Wakeling with a pack of ice strapped to his leg.
Don’t think so. 2 of the trialists are Ward and JMT. There’s an unidentified baldy in midfield - could be the other one.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 20:24:30
Pink and black football kits are decent. Palermo or some Juventus away ones.

Need to sign a real bulldog in defensive midfield to join them.



Don’t want to sign any nuggets though…


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: newmarket red on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 20:25:22
Jon jo shelvey :pint:


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 20:26:01
Where are you getting info on the kit?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 20:35:14
"One team in Swindon, there's only one team in Swiiiindon..."


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 20:57:10
Where are you getting info on the kit?

What info?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Mooneyraker on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 21:05:59
Brewitt was unlucky not to score a couple of times last year, Hartlepool in particular sticking in the memory. Could be a useful asset with any luck.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 21:16:57
What info?
Sorry, I misunderstood the black and pink kit reference


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 21:18:10
:D

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hart_Foundation


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 22:18:40
The back 3 of JMT FBT LAV makes sense with FBT in the middle and JMT on left. FBT cutting through the middle just as he did down the left. Like Nathan T did all those years ago. Lav I don’t think will be a starter unless Hutton goes.
A fast right sided proper CB will be needed.

Never ever considered Lav playing RCB in a back 3 but I’ll be honest. I don’t hate the idea…

At this point it might just be square pegs in round holes as it’s early days but I can see the logic behind it.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 22:34:20
Pink and black football kits are decent. Palermo or some Juventus away ones.

Need to sign a real bulldog in defensive midfield to join them.



Wouldn't mind a Sharpshooter up front either.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Mooneyraker on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 22:43:21
FATIGUE KLAXON!

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/23636629.michael-flynn-first-pre-season-win-three-trialists/

"The boys have worked extremely hard, so there was a lot of fatigue on the pitch"


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 22:54:26
Wouldn't mind a Sharpshooter up front either.

10/10
DV approves.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 22:55:23
Although we do have Austin whose a Stone Cold finisher.
Scores the odd Stunner too

Shame we didn’t sign D.Johnson


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Thursday, July 6, 2023, 04:24:44
FATIGUE KLAXON!

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/23636629.michael-flynn-first-pre-season-win-three-trialists/

"The boys have worked extremely hard, so there was a lot of fatigue on the pitch"

Might have to dust off the box with the panic button in it.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nijholts Nuts on Thursday, July 6, 2023, 04:50:05
Never ever considered Lav playing RCB in a back 3 but I’ll be honest. I don’t hate the idea…

At this point it might just be square pegs in round holes as it’s early days but I can see the logic behind it.
Zeki Fryers came to us as a FB and was adequate at CB for a season. I wouldn't write Lav at RCB off totally just yet


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Thursday, July 6, 2023, 05:13:55
Zeki Fryers came to us as a FB and was adequate at CB for a season. I wouldn't write Lav at RCB off totally just yet

Think it definitely has potential.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Thursday, July 6, 2023, 06:36:43
Thought both Clayton & Cain looked to have bulked up a bit


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: 4D on Thursday, July 6, 2023, 07:42:47
Although we do have Austin whose a Stone Cold finisher.
Scores the odd Stunner too

Shame we didn’t sign D.Johnson

The Rock?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: fuzzy on Thursday, July 6, 2023, 08:00:02
Shame we didn’t sign D.Johnson
[/quote]
The Rock?
Nah, Crockett from Miami Vice


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, July 6, 2023, 08:13:08
Although we do have Austin whose a Stone Cold finisher.
Scores the odd Stunner too

Shame we didn’t sign D.Johnson

Be careful going down this route, we might end up with McMahon back.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Thursday, July 6, 2023, 08:18:47
Be careful going down this route, we might end up with McMahon back.

No chance in hell…


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Thursday, July 6, 2023, 11:29:03
FATIGUE KLAXON!

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/23636629.michael-flynn-first-pre-season-win-three-trialists/

"The boys have worked extremely hard, so there was a lot of fatigue on the pitch"

Sounds more like they've been hitting the fitness hard in preseason rather than getting the balls out first session, to me.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Berniman on Thursday, July 6, 2023, 11:53:26
Sounds more like they've been hitting the fitness hard in preseason rather than getting the balls out first session, to me.

Both.  You should listen to the Life of a Kitman pod, they are doing weekly updates on pre-season training


Title: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Thursday, July 6, 2023, 12:30:42
so come on, someone must have gone ...

how did the new keeper do?
how did the fgr guy do?
did the other trialist impress?

who looked sharp, who looked leggy (not that it really matters now)


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, July 6, 2023, 12:31:59
so come on, someone must have gone ...

how did the new keeper do?
how did the fgr guy do?
did the other trialist impress?
This.

Hardly any mention from anyone that went on how we looked, line up, shape, formation, how players played etc.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, July 6, 2023, 12:33:11
Did anyone actually go?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: adje on Thursday, July 6, 2023, 12:42:21
Did we win?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Thursday, July 6, 2023, 12:46:21
Found this off twitter

Second half thoughts

Murphy Aguiar Khan look very sharp

Number 19 trialist looked very slow and sloppy on the ball (no idea on name)

Clayts brewitt looked class

Harvey Fox young kid looked decent


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Thursday, July 6, 2023, 12:46:28
Quote from: adje
Did we win?

murdered them 2-0 (Caine, Brewitt)


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Thursday, July 6, 2023, 12:48:24
This is the other trialist



Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, July 6, 2023, 12:49:52
This is the other trialist
James Thomas ex Burton and Derby apparently.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Thursday, July 6, 2023, 12:52:16
James Thomas ex Burton and Derby apparently.
Nothing comes up on Dr. Google


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, July 6, 2023, 12:53:14
This is the other trialist



Sure that's not just some lad hanging around outside Spar asking if you will buy him 20 B&H?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Thursday, July 6, 2023, 12:54:40
Doesn’t look old enough to have had 2 clubs


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: adje on Thursday, July 6, 2023, 12:56:39
murdered them 2-0 (Caine, Brewitt)
Mildly impressed. Ta


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: UTR on Thursday, July 6, 2023, 12:58:17
I’ve definitely heard of Thomas from somewhere (probably football manager) but as mentioned, it’s strange that there’s nothing online about him


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Thursday, July 6, 2023, 16:19:59
Mildy impressed. Ta

Naaa Steve didn't play


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Friday, July 7, 2023, 09:13:45
1510 at Supermarine


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: FormerlyPlymRed on Friday, July 7, 2023, 09:27:41
A further 1000 tickets released for Eastleigh, £5 a ticket now.
Over 3000 sold in total (home/away), free tickets a very good idea.

Anyone been before for a decent pub nearby? Think we played in the cup a few years back


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Friday, July 7, 2023, 14:35:09
Went to that FA Cup game. There is a place right opposite the walk to the ground. Funny old walk that.

The replay was possibly the most inept performance by a Swindon side I have ever seen.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: ThreeDrawsMentality on Friday, July 7, 2023, 17:28:40
In similar vein to last pre-season, we are playing away at Bishops Clever tonight completely unannounced. It's a Swindon XI so likely youth teamers.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Friday, July 7, 2023, 18:36:16
Bishops Finger. Mmmmmm!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: 4D on Friday, July 7, 2023, 19:26:31
Bishops Finger. Mmmmmm!

My Aldi staple


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Friday, July 7, 2023, 19:30:48
Anyone going tomorrow? I was going to but with no new players i don't think i will bother


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Friday, July 7, 2023, 19:36:56
Me and Mrs Audrey are going.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: sir windon on Friday, July 7, 2023, 19:56:34
So what time is kick off then? 2 or 3?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Friday, July 7, 2023, 19:57:58
2


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: sir windon on Friday, July 7, 2023, 20:11:29
Cheers.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: digby on Friday, July 7, 2023, 23:53:48
Bought a ticket as thought it'd be a nice run out on the motorbike.....but  weather forecast now predicting thunder /rain !  :badmood:

Hope its a decent game !   :)


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: LucienSanchez on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 06:59:06
Melksham away is the only preseason game I ever go to. Nice little setup there. Looking forward to it.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 09:51:27
Milk Churn/Water Meadow for a beer


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 10:15:10
Quote from: DMC
Anyone going tomorrow? I was going to but with no new players i don't think i will bother

Think I'll do what the lad wants to.

nice set up, but been there a few times and no excitement in the squad. So I probably wouldn't.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: The Grim Reaper on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 10:26:51
Yes going with Mrs GR, it’s a good set up there.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: UTR on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 10:29:00
Hope Minturn manages to get some opportunities over pre season to stake his claim. Needs to be playing regularly this year, either with us or out on loan (ideally a conference premier side), sitting around on the bench will do him no good.

Feel he won’t get the chance to play regularly here this season if we’re looking to bring in a couple CB’s on top of Brewitt, Clayton and FBT.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 11:35:50
On the roof terrace. What a great set up


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 11:54:38
Very good set up👏


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 11:56:32
couldn't be arsed in the end. look forward to reading the reports later


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:00:02
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0gxSlfWAAECeFp?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: UTR on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:00:09
                     Mahoney
            Lavinier  Brewitt  FBT
Hutton                                    Shade
                Khan  McEachran
                       Cain
               Austin    Wakeling

I’m guessing?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:01:00
Darcy sat in the stands I think I recognise the guy sat behind him but can't name him as I can't be sure


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:02:37
                    Mahoney
            Lavinier  Brewitt  FBT
Hutton                                    Shade
                Khan  McEachran
                       Cain
               Austin    Wakeling

I’m guessing?

To be fair it isn't a bad line up and should be able to hold it's own in the league. A couple of quality additions and we should be ok


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:02:56
couldn't be arsed in the end. look forward to reading the reports later
Be interested if anyone can be bothered to post up a formation this time unlike at SS.

Also how we line up in that formation with who polaying where and how we played as a team, if anyone looked rusty and how the keeper played and if he commanded his area or made any saves ot any catches etc etc  and .... well anything as nobody really bothered for the Supermarine game.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:03:21
That's not a bad side at all considering. Moore Taylor and Ward seem to be on the bench, the third trialist from Supermarine isn't.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:03:40
that team should be capable of mid table


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:06:24
that team should be capable of mid table

Great😡


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:07:22
Darcy sat in the stands I think I recognise the guy sat behind him but can't name him as I can't be sure

Don't keep us in suspense throw a disclaimer in to cover you🤣


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:08:16
Don't keep us in suspense throw a disclaimer in to cover you🤣

How do you add pictures to this bloody site??


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:08:52
How do you add pictures to this bloody site??

Attachments under additional options in the full post screen (not the quick post one)


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:09:00
use web browser. there's a "addition options" button. attach


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:09:56
How do you add pictures to this bloody site??

When you type a new message click on the additional options (bottom left of white box)


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:13:55
Not tech savvy it is saying its too large (first time I've heard that) what do I need to do


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Miles Mayhem on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:14:54
It’s a lovely little ground, seems like quite a few town fans


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Kaufman on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:15:15
Unfortunately can’t see JMT out there as yet. Might be in dugout.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:15:26
🤷


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:15:51
Finally


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:16:41
Good job Lou but still none the wiser😀


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: molepar on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:17:00
🤷
Does anyone know who that might be?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:17:28
that team should be capable of mid table
Offensively yes, defensively, no.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: swindon74 on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:38:17
🤷

Decent advertisement behind this chap too 😏


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:52:17
It always seems to rain when we play Melksham preseason!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Kaufman on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:53:44

Ward and JMT both here and on bench


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 12:59:09
Darcy sat in the stands I think I recognise the guy sat behind him but can't name him as I can't be sure
It's clems mate from Axis


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Quagmire on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 13:00:19
It's clems mate from Axis

What position does he play?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 13:03:01
It's clems mate from Axis

Eyeing up Melksham’s stadium for ideas how to downsize the CG when we ‘re-develop’


Title: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 13:25:50
Austin. goal. header. cross from Hutton

hope we keep Hutton


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: swindonmaniac on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 13:30:32
Austin. goal. header. cross from Hutton

hope we keep Hutton
One thing with Hutton, always rated him as a good crosser of the ball.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 13:32:56
2-0 FBT 25 yarder


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 13:39:15
better than last year!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 13:39:30
Wakeling goes close then has one ruled out for offside


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 13:41:05
Austin. goal. header. cross from Hutton

hope we keep Hutton

#32 :)


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Miles Mayhem on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 13:47:17
Back 5 is really fluid, always looking for overloads when we are attacking. Lots of crosses into the box, mostly from the right. I’m not convinced Shade offers anything from the left.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 13:48:25
Austin. goal. header. cross from Hutton

hope we keep Hutton
Hutton played as a much more offensive wingback is great, as long as we dont have to rely on him defensively.

If he wants to stay and we play to his strengths he could even double his assist count of last season


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Mooneyraker on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 13:49:11
One thing with Hutton, always rated him as a good crosser of the ball.

Brilliant crosser of the ball at L2 level, just not a RB.

Would be interested to see him wide of a front three. Fundamentally not a defender but if we have a squad that actually works for 352 this year then the positives of him at RWB outweigh the negatives, provided the right hand CB is up to the job of covering for him. Interested to see if this Lavinier experiment survives pre-season. Might just work!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 14:01:37
3-0 Adeloye (!)


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 14:02:28
Brilliant crosser of the ball at L2 level, just not a RB.

Would be interested to see him wide of a front three. Fundamentally not a defender but if we have a squad that actually works for 352 this year then the positives of him at RWB outweigh the negatives, provided the right hand CB is up to the job of covering for him. Interested to see if this Lavinier experiment survives pre-season. Might just work!
100% i would love him in this set up but we have to get a good holding midfielder to cover as well for that as like you say he is poor defensively. A good midfielder will cover that though


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 14:05:48
No idea if we can take much from the result today no matter how it ends, I see Melkshams previous 2 games game been a 1-1 draw with FGR 4 days ago and a 0-9 loss to Bristol Rovers a week ago.

I would like to see us get another couple of goals 2nd half though.

Last seasons game finished 3-2 to Swindon but we did play a very very young team that day with 6 trialists.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: molepar on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 14:13:12
4-0 Shade


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 14:18:42
Quote from: Peter Venkman
Hutton played as a much more offensive wingback is great, as long as we dont have to rely on him defensively.

fair!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: molepar on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 14:22:11
5-0 Aguiar


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 14:23:33
What style of football we playing anyone🤔


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 14:23:56
What style of football we playing anyone🤔
Sounds like Wilder's Sheffield United


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: 4D on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 14:25:23
Any tippy tappy stuff?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 14:26:12
Sounds like Wilder's Sheffield United

No messing then more direct!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Mooneyraker on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 14:27:48
5-0 Aguiar

I'd love to see Slick Rick kick on and fight his way back into contention this year.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: molepar on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 14:28:59
I'd love to see Slick Rick kick on and fight his way back into contention this year.
He clearly is a good technician. Long range shot into top corner apparently. There is a good player in there somewhere and hopefully Flynn can unleash it.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 14:32:00
Sounds like Wilder's Sheffield United

Kinda like this then?

                               sweeper Keeper
           covering CB             CB            covering CB
attacking RWB                                                attacking LWB
                    Ball winning MF      creative MF
                                 Box to box MF
                            Big striker      Fast striker


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 14:32:39
Not tech savvy it is saying its too large (first time I've heard that) what do I need to do
Needs to be under one mb in size. Compress it via Compress or Die {saves you installing an app}.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 14:37:15
What style of football we playing anyone🤔

Gunningball


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Mooneyraker on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 14:37:42
3-0 Adeloye (!)

Similarly would be delighted for Adeloye to prove his worth. Everyone is a winner if he does. Insane and a sign of our abject mismanagement that our newly signed 'number 9' managed 1 League start last year.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 14:37:48
Gunningball

I'd be happy with that😆


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: JoeMezz on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 14:38:11
Delighted for Adeloye. It made no sense starting Jephcott who was on loan over him at the tail end of last season. Jephcott clearly not good enough, Adeloye deserved a shot even if it was just to put him in the shop market. Maybe Flynn will get something out of him


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 14:40:06
I have heard some good stuff about our youngster Dani Gonzalez who is playing this half, supposed to be very quick and versatile can play in a few roles.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 14:40:55
Delighted for Adeloye. It made no sense starting Jephcott who was on loan over him at the tail end of last season. Jephcott clearly not good enough, Adeloye deserved a shot even if it was just to put him in the shop market. Maybe Flynn will get something out of him

Adelove to see that


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 14:42:37
Kev's on 🔥


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Mooneyraker on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 14:42:45
I have heard some good stuff about our youngster Dani Gonzalez who is playing this half, supposed to be very quick and versatile can play in a few roles.

Sounds like we poached him from La Masia with a name like that!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 14:46:13
FT at Melksham... 0-5


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 14:48:58
Good result considering FGR could only draw there 4 days ago.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 14:52:34
Good result considering FGR could only draw there 4 days ago.

Yeah but that was a village team v a town team so...  ;)


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 14:55:01
Quote from: Peter Venkman
I have heard some good stuff about our youngster Dani Gonzalez who is playing this half, supposed to be very quick and versatile can play in a few roles.

so you are saying Gonzalez is speedy?

don't suppose he's a trained carpet fitter too? (underlay underlay)


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 14:56:15
nice to see preseason going ok so far. results aren't that important but we should at least show a bit of quality - which we seem to be.

no new injuries?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 14:58:29
don't suppose he's a trained carpet fitter too? (underlay underlay)
Nope, you did that yourself to set up that damn awful joke :)


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 14:58:56
Good result considering FGR could only draw there 4 days ago.
Can't read too much into pre-season results of course but I do like us to see off non league sides by at least a couple of goals and it's slightly concerning when we don't (i.e last pre-season)


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 15:06:00
Can't read too much into pre-season results of course but I do like us to see off non league sides by at least a couple of goals and it's slightly concerning when we don't (i.e last pre-season)
Absolutely, we did better this year at Supermarine and Melksham than we did last season.

Next game on Tuesday at Corsham should also be a good run out.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Mooneyraker on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 15:09:48
nice to see preseason going ok so far. results aren't that important but we should at least show a bit of quality - which we seem to be.

no new injuries?

Winning is a habit you can't get into too early


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 15:13:12
Well,what an enjoyable afternoon that was! Few pints of Thatchers, bit of chat and rescued a woman’s handbag!

Bit of a scuffle in the 2nd half with beered up fans but nothing to write home about.

My take fwiw, as I can’t identify many players. Brewitt is fine, FBT stand out in the 1st half. Mrs Audrey liked the look of McCreachan but not in a carnal way. Hutton was Hutton.

2nd half JMT or whatever he’s called, looked just what we need at the back. Organising the defence, keeping it simple, bit of a unit.

A couple of the youths looked decent but I have no idea who they were. Were there any triallists? No idea.

Looking forward to Corsham Tuesday.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 15:55:28
One thing with Hutton, always rated him as a good crosser of the ball.

Only thing I do rate him for to be honest haha.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 15:57:55
Gunningball

Music to my ears. As long as its not tippy tippy academy shite.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 16:00:43
Who is captain, Austin?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 16:03:43
Sure FBT had it


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 16:14:48
Sure FBT had it
Hope so. Let Charlie concentrate on what he does best...


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: digby on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 16:22:14
nice to see preseason going ok so far. results aren't that important but we should at least show a bit of quality - which we seem to be.

no new injuries?
Wakeling had ice strapped to his leg, to the side/back of his knee (tried to add photo but gave up !)


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: A Gent Orange on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 16:26:04
FBT had the armband in a photo I saw somewhere.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 16:26:27
Did a quick check to see how the other teams in L2 did today in friendlies, these are the results and the league level they played against, not really any surprises though.

Accrington 2-2* Blackburn (level 2) ongoing late kick off.
FC United 0-2 Barrow (level 7)
Bury 0-5 Bradford (level 9)
Maldon 0-4 Colchester (level 8 )
Halesowen 0-5 Crewe (level 8 )
Rossington 1-3 Doncaster (level 10)
Dover 0-4 Gillingham (level 6)
Cleethorpes 1-2 Grimsby (level 8 )
Huddersfield U21s 0-1 Harrogate (level 2)
Undy 0-4 AFC Newport (level 3 Welsh league)
Grantham 3-4 Notts County (level 8 )
Radcliffe 0-3 Salford (level 8 )
Stockport 1-1 Lincoln (level 3)
Melksham 0-5 Swindon (level 8 )
Vauxhall Motors 0-0 Tranmere (level 8 )
Reading 0-1 AFC Wimbledon (level 3)


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 16:31:35
Quote from: digby
Wakeling had ice strapped to his leg, to the side/back of his knee (tried to add photo but gave up !)

ah thanks, let's hope it's not as serious as it sounds.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: digby on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 16:51:09
Decent article

https://www.totalswindon.com/sport/what-we-learned-melksham-town-0-swindon-town-5/?fbclid=IwAR03UmhLpe346jt8Ppr97FZjXVZgC6bXrVLfDnFlBA335ad9Xem5qQTbI7U


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 16:52:43
Attendance 1514


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: blinkpip on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 16:58:01
Was there some hand bags antics with the Melksham kids and the Swindon ones second half? Looked like the Town fans were moved along?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 17:00:19
Yeah. Bit of nonsense really.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 17:01:23
They weren't wannabe gasheads were they😆


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 17:01:28
Attendance 1514
Wasnt that almost the same crowd as at Supermarine?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: digby on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 17:02:04
Flynn reaction
https://www.totalswindon.com/sport/michael-flynn-saw-a-lot-of-promising-signs-during-swindons-victory-over-melksham/?fbclid=IwAR0Zu7a3p2x0zPB_D_3TuJAZSoENTl7hmQAv8R-IaRsAXPcpezISG_fZyMI


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 17:06:03
Wasnt that almost the same crowd as at Supermarine?
Yeah. 4 more!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 17:06:26
ah thanks, let's hope it's not as serious as it sounds.
According to Flynn....
Quote
“It was a pleasing day and the most important thing for me was that we didn’t get any injuries.”


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 17:06:57
Flynn reaction
https://www.totalswindon.com/sport/michael-flynn-saw-a-lot-of-promising-signs-during-swindons-victory-over-melksham/?fbclid=IwAR0Zu7a3p2x0zPB_D_3TuJAZSoENTl7hmQAv8R-IaRsAXPcpezISG_fZyMI
Sums up Shade very, very well! I like Flynn!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 17:07:32
Yeah. 4 more!
Thats damn close! good crowd for both those teams that, nice bit of income for them both.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Kaufman on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 17:09:03
I’ve been to both preseason games so far and this new formation throws up some questions and dare I say it, some competition.
FBT, Brewitt and JMT have all played the middle of the 3 and they all seem comfortable enough.
Clayton has looked as a good as anyone else at the back so far also, so with 3 out of those 4 being left footed you could say the obvious that’s it’s unbalanced.
Brewitt was very assured today and played a couple of lovely passes.

I’m aware it’s only teams way down the pyramid but I’m feeling a little more confident about our shape and state of the defence compared to when the whistle blew against Crawley.
Clayton has bulked up a little too. Some options for Flynn for sure.

Big forward for Charlie/RHM to play off of. A DM and a left wing back needed for me.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 17:13:33
Sums up Shade very, very well! I like Flynn!
Think he’s got a hard on for Shade!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 17:16:25
Think he’s got a hard on for Shade!
But he’s right. Shade flatters to deceive. If a football brain could be inserted in his head then he could be good. No one has been able to get him to use all his physical attributes well for 90 mins on the pitch.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 17:17:53
Decent article

https://www.totalswindon.com/sport/what-we-learned-melksham-town-0-swindon-town-5/?fbclid=IwAR03UmhLpe346jt8Ppr97FZjXVZgC6bXrVLfDnFlBA335ad9Xem5qQTbI7U
Interesting....playing like Sheff Utd c. Chris Wilder.... intriguing... Anything that doesn't feature the 'horseshoe of doom' is fine by me...


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 17:20:22
Wakeling had ice strapped to his leg, to the side/back of his knee (tried to add photo but gave up !)
If you sit/stand near the dug outs at games you'll see players with ice packs all the time... it's pretty common practice and doesn't necessarily mean it's anything remotely serious...


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Lemis on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 17:20:45
By the sounds of it, we've got a preseason friendly against Swansea, presumably behind closed doors. Flynn mentions it in his Melksham post match.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0fzsj0y


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 17:25:36
By the sounds of it, we've got a preseason friendly against Swansea, presumably behind closed doors. Flynn mentions it in his Melksham post match.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0fzsj0y
I cant listen at the moment but I am guessing it will be fri/sat/sun of this week as we have no game between the next 2 Tuesday friendlies?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: tans on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 17:30:42
I cant listen at the moment but I am guessing it will be fri/sat/sun of this week as we have no game between the next 2 Tuesday friendlies?

Saturday


Title: Re: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: horlock07 on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 17:35:11

Bury 0-5 Bradford (level 9)


That was the first game at Gigg Lane for over 4 years, so whilst not ideal I suspect Bury fans still enjoyed it!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 17:36:30
By the sounds of it, we've got a preseason friendly against Swansea, presumably behind closed doors. Flynn mentions it in his Melksham post match.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0fzsj0y
I can’t make out what the last question is? Talking about a position.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Lemis on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 17:54:02
I can’t make out what the last question is? Talking about a position.

Think it's asking the position of the player we're close to bringing in, which Flynn responds with a No


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 18:00:23
Saturday
Ta. Makes sense.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 18:02:05
That was the first game at Gigg Lane for over 4 years, so whilst not ideal I suspect Bury fans still enjoyed it!
Absolutely and welcome back Bury, seen Swindon play there 5 times before, the first being well before the redevelopment, quirky old ground but proper old school lower league one.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Kaufman on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 19:35:42
Nice little video from a young fan here.
Worth watching for the FBT strike

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZJFS90XJGY&ab_channel=Juniortism


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 20:42:47
Who is higher up the pyramid. Melksham or Corsham?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Quagmire on Saturday, July 8, 2023, 20:57:14
Who is higher up the pyramid. Melksham or Corsham?

Melksham


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Sunday, July 9, 2023, 09:14:43
Nice little video from a young fan here.
Worth watching for the FBT strike

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZJFS90XJGY&ab_channel=Juniortism

Couple of sitters missed and a couple really unlucky. Could have been closer to Rovers 9-0 really.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Sunday, July 9, 2023, 10:02:26
Couple of sitters missed and a couple really unlucky. Could have been closer to Rovers 9-0 really.

Yeah plus 1 disallowed and three of the woodwork.
I was quite impressed by the press and the effort all round.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, July 9, 2023, 10:31:34
Nice little video that.

What a finish by FBT, decent all round performance by the sound of it, next on to Corsham on Tuesday.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: molepar on Sunday, July 9, 2023, 10:33:14
What was all that kicking off in the crowd about? I don’t understand why people would start a fight, especially at a friendly  :hmmm:


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, July 9, 2023, 10:47:58
What was all that kicking off in the crowd about? I don’t understand why people would start a fight, especially at a friendly  :hmmm:
Yes its quite frankly pathetic.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Sunday, July 9, 2023, 11:13:04
Quote from: Kaufman
Nice little video from a young fan here.
Worth watching for the FBT strike

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZJFS90XJGY&ab_channel=Juniortism (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZJFS90XJGY&ab_channel=Juniortism)

nice. could easily have been 10.

imagine going to a preseason friendly at Melksham and kicking off 🤣 Tools


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, July 9, 2023, 11:14:25
imagine going to a preseason friendly at Melksham and kicking off 🤣 Tools
Some people need to take a long hard look at themselves.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Sunday, July 9, 2023, 11:53:02
Most of Melksham is Swindon fans anyway with a few Bristolians about. Did look like one had a blue scarf....Rovers fan?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Sunday, July 9, 2023, 11:55:22
Most of Melksham is Swindon fans anyway with a few Bristolians about. Did look like one had a blue scarf....Rovers fan?

One lad had a dark city shirt on under his jacket and was quite gobby


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Sunday, July 9, 2023, 11:55:31
Aud did say there were a few in corsham so could be shenanigans again in midweek!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: 4D on Sunday, July 9, 2023, 11:55:50
I'm thinking probably Bristhole fans


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: 4D on Sunday, July 9, 2023, 12:01:30
One lad had a dark city shirt on under his jacket and was quite gobby

Standard


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Sunday, July 9, 2023, 12:26:32
Quote from: skiptotheLouMacari
One lad had a dark city shirt on under his jacket and was quite gobby

What on earth must your life be if you have to go to a preseason friendly and try to get it to kick off!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nemo on Sunday, July 9, 2023, 12:27:59
What on earth must your life be if you have to go to a preseason friendly and try to get it to kick off!

Even hooligans need to get their fitness levels up. Perhaps he was trying being proper nawty whilst fatigued?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Sunday, July 9, 2023, 12:29:14
Quote from: Nemo
Even hooligans need to get their fitness levels up. Perhaps he was trying being proper nawty whilst fatigued?

🤣🤣🤣


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Sunday, July 9, 2023, 12:29:39
Sadly the reason we still can't play the likes of Bristol City in front of a crowd.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Sunday, July 9, 2023, 12:44:59
Tbh it's usually just a few overexcited kids or suppressed blokes who've had one too many cider lollies from the ice cream van on a hot day.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Sunday, July 9, 2023, 13:09:27
What on earth must your life be if you have to go to a preseason friendly and try to get it to kick off!

To be fair they were all school boy age and were goading a group of town fans. Singing Austin you're a wanker Karma when he scored and he laughed towards them and what do you think is Swindon shit etc then they were told of you carry on you're out which then the town fan in question started lauhging singing Irene's a prostitute he was also told to tone it down. We moved for the 2nd half but could see the fists flying from the opposite end. Really quite pathetic for a pre season friendly against a localish town which has an element of Swindon fans from.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Sunday, July 9, 2023, 14:13:49
Some Town fan wasted his pint chucking it at them. Can see that on the video.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Sunday, July 9, 2023, 14:14:34
Was you on the flat roof next to the main stand


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Sunday, July 9, 2023, 14:15:40
Twas. I was wearing a white Greece baseball cap!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Sunday, July 9, 2023, 14:17:27
Twas. I was wearing a white Greece baseball cap!

There looked like there was quite few of you on the roof😀
What's the corsham ground like similar to Supermarine?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Sunday, July 9, 2023, 14:18:44
No idea. Never been before! Got a clubhouse for a beer.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Sunday, July 9, 2023, 14:19:20
That's all that matters😀


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Sunday, July 9, 2023, 14:20:33
You going


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Sunday, July 9, 2023, 14:21:07
No working sadly


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: swindonmaniac on Sunday, July 9, 2023, 15:23:07
Sadly the reason we still can't play the likes of Bristol City in front of a crowd.
surely that’s a bonus,  I’d rather stick wasps up my arse than watch that shite.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Sunday, July 9, 2023, 15:41:44
surely that’s a bonus,  I’d rather stick wasps up my arse than watch that shite.

Now now, we've had a good relationship over many years with our friends along the M4 south of the river with players trading both ways😀


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Kaufman on Sunday, July 9, 2023, 17:49:08
Better view of the goals here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4rgNCXWkS4&ab_channel=MelkshamTownFC


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, July 10, 2023, 07:58:49
I generally never take pre-season results too seriously of course, but it's good to get into a winning habit nice and early. That Hutton/Austin partnership could be very fruitful over the course of the season.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Pericardinho on Monday, July 10, 2023, 08:04:02
I generally never take pre-season results too seriously of course, but it's good to get into a winning habit nice and early. That Hutton/Austin partnership could be very fruitful over the course of the season.

Or until August 31st at the most.

I still can't see a scenario where he stays. Especially as Peterborough don't have Ward or Thompson anymore.



Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, July 10, 2023, 08:11:23
Or until August 31st at the most.

I still can't see a scenario where he stays. Especially as Peterborough don't have Ward or Thompson anymore.



I mean for all the talk about Hutton wanting away/Peterborough's supposed interest, nothing as yet has come from it. I noticed that Tomlinson played a part in their pre-season game over the weekend, perhaps there is a deal to be done where we get Tomlinson and cash for Hutton. Would Lavinier then shift to RB?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: JoeMezz on Monday, July 10, 2023, 09:13:15
I mean for all the talk about Hutton wanting away/Peterborough's supposed interest, nothing as yet has come from it. I noticed that Tomlinson played a part in their pre-season game over the weekend, perhaps there is a deal to be done where we get Tomlinson and cash for Hutton. Would Lavinier then shift to RB?

I must be one of the few who thinks Tomlinson isnt actually that good… 


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, July 10, 2023, 09:28:36
I mean for all the talk about Hutton wanting away/Peterborough's supposed interest, nothing as yet has come from it. I noticed that Tomlinson played a part in their pre-season game over the weekend, perhaps there is a deal to be done where we get Tomlinson and cash for Hutton. Would Lavinier then shift to RB?
I like Tomlinson and think he could do a job at RWB, hes predominantly right footed and played RWB for Hungerford and Eastliegh previously and was moved to LWB while at Posh.

I think he has loads of potential if we keep him fit. Ironically he has only ever had 2 fairly big injuries in his career, both while at Swindon on loan.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Monday, July 10, 2023, 09:37:39
I certainly wouldn’t be climbing over myself to get a deal done that involved Tomlinson coming in at the expense of Hutton going…

Now, if we could get Tomlinson in as well as Hutton to add to the options at both RWB & LWB I’d be inclined to try and make that deal happen.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, July 10, 2023, 09:41:45
I certainly wouldn’t be climbing over myself to get a deal done that involved Tomlinson coming in at the expense of Hutton going…

Now, if we could get Tomlinson in as well as Hutton to add to the options at both RWB & LWB I’d be inclined to try and make that deal happen.
If Hutton wants to stay (which has been rumoured that he didnt, but things change and it was only a rumour) then yes get Tomlinson and keep Hutton too, that would be a good option.



Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Monday, July 10, 2023, 09:43:31
Tbh, even if Hutton doesn’t want to stay. He’s under contract, so we could always just say tough shit.

…or tell him, get your head down, keep popping the ball on Chairle’s head and you’ll have better options in January.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, July 10, 2023, 10:03:18
Tbh, even if Hutton doesn’t want to stay. He’s under contract, so we could always just say tough shit.

…or tell him, get your head down, keep popping the ball on Chairle’s head and you’ll have better options in January.
I like this option as we will all benefit.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Pericardinho on Monday, July 10, 2023, 10:17:13
I like this option as we will all benefit.

I like this as well but if we're in the promotion hunt and sell Hutton in January our fans will go equally ape shit and say we lack ambition.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: THE FLASH on Monday, July 10, 2023, 10:18:19
Ive been on holiday....how many signings have we made?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, July 10, 2023, 10:41:59
Ive been on holiday....how many signings have we made?

The same number of rounds 4D has ever bought.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Monday, July 10, 2023, 10:44:26
Quote from: THE FLASH
Ive been on holiday....how many signings have we made?
er, 3 including Brewitt, Austin and loan keeper?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: 4D on Monday, July 10, 2023, 10:48:07
The same number of rounds 4D has ever bought.

I always get collared for most rounds, they're a tight lot  :)


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, July 10, 2023, 10:49:47
I must be one of the few who thinks Tomlinson isnt actually that good… 

opinions and arseholes. There isn't a lot to go on but he was pretty good in his first spell at the club I thought.

I like Tomlinson and think he could do a job at RWB, hes predominantly right footed and played RWB for Hungerford and Eastliegh previously and was moved to LWB while at Posh.

I think he has loads of potential if we keep him fit. Ironically he has only ever had 2 fairly big injuries in his career, both while at Swindon on loan.

I think you are right about potential. He's young and Peterborough generally have a good eye for non-league talent. Injuries have probably held him back so a good pre-season and he may have a part to play this season.

Tbh, even if Hutton doesn’t want to stay. He’s under contract, so we could always just say tough shit.

…or tell him, get your head down, keep popping the ball on Chairle’s head and you’ll have better options in January.

As you say, Hutton + Tomlinson is a right result. If the various noises about us being skint are true, we may well have to cash in on Hutton, we don't have an assembly line of valuable assets currently. If he starts the season well, we may have our hand tested come the end of August. You would hope that  we look longer term, but if the offer is too good to refuse, then so be it. (as always it will be undisclosed anyway)

I like this as well but if we're in the promotion hunt and sell Hutton in January our fans will go equally ape shit and say we lack ambition.

Yeah I am in agreement. If we are there or thereabouts at Christmas, selling Hutton would go down like a lead balloon.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: UTR on Monday, July 10, 2023, 10:51:55
Think the issue is it sounds like we (or Clem) already gave Hutton the “get your head down for the next few months and we’ll agree to sell you in the next window” talk in January.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, July 10, 2023, 11:01:09
I always get collared for most rounds, they're a tight lot  :)

:) Clearly I have no idea. It's their word against yours!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Monday, July 10, 2023, 11:09:38
I like this as well but if we're in the promotion hunt and sell Hutton in January our fans will go equally ape shit and say we lack ambition.

Same fans who spent a few months last season spouting shite about how he was ‘rubbish’ and ‘didn’t want to be here’ and ‘we should sell’


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Monday, July 10, 2023, 11:11:44
Quote from: DiV
Same fans who spent a few months last season spouting shite about how he was ‘rubbish’ and ‘didn’t want to be here’ and ‘we should sell’
no, different ones


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Monday, July 10, 2023, 11:14:37
I'll offer a counter opinion. Outside of being a good crosser, I don't think much of Hutton at all. Tomlinson is class but I do worry about him staying fit.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Monday, July 10, 2023, 11:25:02
Hutton is a fine attacking right back.

I'd much rather watch a Hutton than a Hunt but in the context of a potential top 3 side it probably should be more a Hunt than a Hutton, based on there being more of a spread of goals & assists across a team aiming for autos.

Having said that, keeping Hutton and adding assists from midfield & the other flank would be ideal.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, July 10, 2023, 11:25:14
I'll offer a counter opinion. Outside of being a good crosser, I don't think much of Hutton at all. Tomlinson is class but I do worry about him staying fit.
Not really a counter opinion, its plain for most to see that outside of crossing hutton doesnt have too many attibutes to being a footballer TBH, hes quick but not fast, he struggles to beat his man and cannot really defend.

But.

Tozer at Wreham, is not a footballer but he is a long throw specialist so that gets him his place in the team, early doors at United Beckham wasnt a great footballer but man could he deliver a cross/free kick/shot. Twine as well, doesnt contribute too much but has similar attributes to Beckham with the ball at his feet, both though worked on their game and improved as players.

I think if Hutton had better footballing ability then he wouldnt be in L2.

I think if a team play to a players strengths then they are a good asset, if like Lindsey yotu rely on Hutton being able to defend then you are fucked.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Monday, July 10, 2023, 11:26:38
Better view of the goals here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4rgNCXWkS4&ab_channel=MelkshamTownFC

Who is number 29? Gets sent for a hot dog at about 3 mins.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Monday, July 10, 2023, 11:27:57
my opinion on Hutton. If he could find consistency in his crossing he'd be a great supply line for Austin.

Not sure I've seen many players put crosses in simply by creating half a yard without beating his man.

defensively he's below average though


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Monday, July 10, 2023, 12:13:12
Same fans who spent a few months last season spouting shite about how he was ‘rubbish’ and ‘didn’t want to be here’ and ‘we should sell’
Maybe he didn't want to be here but that ship has sailed? Things and opinions in football change


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Lemis on Monday, July 10, 2023, 14:09:33
Wasn't sure whether this would be better suited to another thread, but both Morecambe and Barnsley have cancelled preseason friendlies stating lack of available players.

Considering we managed to still get the preseason friendly against Supermarine in 2021 still played after power decided to stop paying everyone, that's proper tinpot


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: UTR on Monday, July 10, 2023, 14:18:03
Notice that Mansfield haven’t bothered with the “Trialist” malarkey and just named Aaron Lewis in their squad for their upcoming friendly. Either extremely confident of getting a deal done or can’t be bothered to keep it secret.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, July 10, 2023, 16:04:56
Who is number 29? Gets sent for a hot dog at about 3 mins.
Don't know about hot dogs but 29 is Aguiar...


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Monday, July 10, 2023, 16:18:15
Is RHM injured? Hasn’t featured yet.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: tans on Monday, July 10, 2023, 16:22:07
Notice that Mansfield haven’t bothered with the “Trialist” malarkey and just named Aaron Lewis in their squad for their upcoming friendly. Either extremely confident of getting a deal done or can’t be bothered to keep it secret.

Kieran Freeman too


Title: Re: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Benzel on Monday, July 10, 2023, 16:22:19
Is RHM injured? Hasn’t featured yet.
Injured in the warm up at Supermarine I think


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, July 10, 2023, 16:23:02
Injured in the warm up at Supermarine I think
Bloody hell🤦🤣


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Kaufman on Monday, July 10, 2023, 16:25:45
It’s true he didn’t start at supermarine when he was listed in starting line up but he did come on and play the 2nd half.
No doubt rested.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Monday, July 10, 2023, 21:06:53

If the various noises about us being skint are true, we may well have to cash in on Hutton, we don't have an assembly line of valuable assets currently. If he starts the season well, we may have our hand tested come the end of August. You would hope that  we look longer term, but if the offer is too good to refuse, then so be it. (as always it will be undisclosed anyway)


I think this is what they call the ''Nathan Byrne'' scenario. Player capable of playing at league above in an advanced position. Fans hopeful he stays as he starts the season and no doubt Hutton will play really well in August. Much like Byrne, will then be sold at the end of the window to someone in League One - like Northampton or the oft mentioned Peterborough


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Monday, July 10, 2023, 21:19:04
Same fans who spent a few months last season spouting shite about how he was ‘rubbish’ and ‘didn’t want to be here’ and ‘we should sell’

I think you're mixing opinions or misquoting there DV a smidge. I don't really remember anyone saying he was rubbish. They may have said he was 'a rubbish defender..' which is accurate. He's no defender. No doubt about his ability in the final third though.

There were several that stated he 'didn't LOOK LIKE he wanted to be here' and that's true too. There were games where he really looked disinterested and he wasn't even in the game. Whenever he was though, he did tend to perform.

Also, are people not allowed or incapable of being flexible with their opinions? Surely being a mature adult means one can see what they may have thought, examined some of that opinion during a period of reflection and then MIGHT have an altered opinion to one they previously did? No...is that not possible? Must everyone's opinion be perpetually fixed?

I used to fucking hate tomatoes, also found them boring and tasteless. Had them in the mediterranean and realised what having proper tomatoes to eat was like. Thus, I now fucking love tomatoes and my opinion on them changed. I wasn't ignorant enough to still go 'well, they do taste good but I still hate them' because new knowledge came to me.

How gloriously riveting  :girlgiggle:


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Monday, July 10, 2023, 21:22:16
Kieran Freeman too

Shirley you mean Kalven Freshwater?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, July 11, 2023, 05:52:44
(Apologies i could look on the website but) do we have games this week?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, July 11, 2023, 06:09:07
(Apologies i could look on the website but) do we have games this week?

Page 1 of this thread. Corsham tonight.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, July 11, 2023, 07:29:21
Page 1 of this thread. Corsham tonight.

Ah cheers LL, I never realised that! The Audrey derby! :)


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, July 11, 2023, 08:03:17
Swansea BCD on Saturday


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Tuesday, July 11, 2023, 08:04:21
Ah cheers LL, I never realised that! The Audrey derby! :)
We’ll be there! Hope it’s not a yoof side.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, July 11, 2023, 08:16:33
We’ll be there! Hope it’s not a yoof side.

It’s a youth side, supposedly, they’re not even sure Flynn is going to be there.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 11, 2023, 08:43:15
It’s a youth side, supposedly, they’re not even sure Flynn is going to be there.

Thanks! Saves a trip I was unlikely to make anyway.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Tuesday, July 11, 2023, 10:00:38
Call yourself  a fan. Pfftt


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 11, 2023, 10:02:17
Call yourself  a fan. Pfftt
Bit shit if Flynn wont be there and it is only the yoofs TBF.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: ThreeDrawsMentality on Tuesday, July 11, 2023, 10:04:21
Bit shit if Flynn wont be there and it is only the yoofs TBF.
I'm sure it was referenced somewhere that Flynn had concerns with the state of the Corsham pitch and didn't want to risk the first team on it.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Tuesday, July 11, 2023, 10:16:51
Boo. Flynn out


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: ThreeDrawsMentality on Tuesday, July 11, 2023, 10:25:52
Flashbacks to our preaseason game at Banbury under Kev MacDonalds which got halted because a hammer was found on the pitch  :D


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 11, 2023, 10:28:14
Call yourself  a fan. Pfftt

I am. Just a shit one.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Tuesday, July 11, 2023, 11:50:34
Swansea BCD on Saturday

At their training ground I presume similar to City?

any chance of a stream?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, July 11, 2023, 11:57:25
Not a clue, only know about it because of the post Melksham match comments from Flynn


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Riddick on Tuesday, July 11, 2023, 12:31:54
At their training ground I presume similar to City?

any chance of a stream?

I had a look Swansea end and it doesn't look like they consider this a first team friendly. They play Oxford friday night and Rovers Tues for example.

So no stream


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, July 11, 2023, 12:33:02
I had a look Swansea end and it doesn't look like they consider this a first team friendly. They play Oxford friday night and Rovers Tues for example.

So no stream
Booooo!!!!!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Tuesday, July 11, 2023, 13:29:24
Maybe they’ll sneak a new trialist into the team tonight.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Lemis on Tuesday, July 11, 2023, 13:58:27
I had a look Swansea end and it doesn't look like they consider this a first team friendly. They play Oxford friday night and Rovers Tues for example.

So no stream

Any idea why we don't do preseason games on ifollow like other clubs do? Just seems a missed opportunity when fans would happily pay for it


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Riddick on Tuesday, July 11, 2023, 14:17:19
Any idea why we don't do preseason games on ifollow like other clubs do? Just seems a missed opportunity when fans would happily pay for it

No idea, its just something the club isn't very good at it seems. Though normally its sold by the home team, see Bristol City next week, and i remember a Birmingham game last season i think.

The other thing is its normally behind closed doors for a reason. The Bristol one is different, as they are doing work on their pitch so all their preseason is at their training ground so they are happy to provide access. Swansea seems like an almost off the books pre season game honestly, so they are probably keeping it that way for a reason. Lets see if the clubs twitter even covers it?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Lemis on Tuesday, July 11, 2023, 17:50:05
Lineup for the Corsham game, very much a development side. Only question is are these the trialists potential first teamers or youth trialists.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Tuesday, July 11, 2023, 17:52:02
When is the Bristol City game this week or next🤔


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Tuesday, July 11, 2023, 17:57:07
Lineup for the Corsham game, very much a development side. Only question is are these the trialists potential first teamers or youth trialists.
I woulkd imagine it is the lad who Flynn said was 16 but has developed very quickly so wants to see him at both levels


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Tuesday, July 11, 2023, 18:02:02
Lot of midgets on the pitch 4 us


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: RJack on Tuesday, July 11, 2023, 18:08:58
Lot of midgets on the pitch 4 us
That's probably most of last years team then.  Perhaps our transfer policy is all players must be under 6'0 except the goalkeeper


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Tuesday, July 11, 2023, 18:11:28
A y team news


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Tuesday, July 11, 2023, 18:14:59
Some Fecker has a drum


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, July 11, 2023, 18:26:36
That's not even a first choice youth team is it?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Tuesday, July 11, 2023, 18:28:39
Hope they didn't charge to get in😳


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Tuesday, July 11, 2023, 18:36:42
That's not even a first choice youth team is it?

Kanu on the bench, so did think that.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, July 11, 2023, 18:40:26
Kanu on the bench, so did think that.

No Hart Foundation either, or Fox. Assuming that a few of the names from last year might have left the club - Taank, Wynn-Davis and a few others. There was never an announcement I don't think, only that Dworzak had a contract.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Tuesday, July 11, 2023, 18:44:24
1-0 Corsham.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Tuesday, July 11, 2023, 18:45:10
I assume for City and Hereford they'll send mixed squads to both and Flynn will attend both? Its not exactly far and the City game kicks off at 12:30.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, July 11, 2023, 18:49:49
When is the Bristol City game this week or next🤔

All the pre-season fixtures are on page 1 Jimmy (I learnt this morning :) )


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Tuesday, July 11, 2023, 18:52:24
All the pre-season fixtures are on page 1 Jimmy (I learnt this morning :) )

Cheers Robert😁

(A) Supermarine - Wednesday 5 July, 7.45pm
(A) Melksham - Saturday 8 July 3pm
(A) Corsham - Tuesday 11 July 7:30pm
(A) Bristol City - Tuesday 18 July, 12.30pm (behind closed doors but on 'Robins TV')
(A) Hereford - Tuesday 18 July, 7.30pm
(A) Eastleigh - Saturday 22 July 1pm
(H) Plymouth - Saturday 29 July


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Tuesday, July 11, 2023, 19:30:41
I left at half time. That’s not even our youth team - kindergarten team maybe.

Anyway it’s a struggle against fully grown blokes. I have no idea who is who but our No. 11 looks very decent - very small but skilful and tbf got stuck in a bit. No. 14 looked good too.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: tans on Tuesday, July 11, 2023, 19:33:57
How much did they charge a ticket out of interest? Club building it up and then sending a youth team is pretty poor imo


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Super Hans on Tuesday, July 11, 2023, 19:34:02
Looks like we have a couple of trialists on now.  No idea who they are, probably yoofs as well.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Tuesday, July 11, 2023, 19:34:32
11. Hubbard
14. Keyes

... apparently...


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Tuesday, July 11, 2023, 19:35:28
No Hart Foundation either, or Fox. Assuming that a few of the names from last year might have left the club - Taank, Wynn-Davis and a few others. There was never an announcement I don't think, only that Dworzak had a contract.

I bumped into to PaulD on his morning dog walk a couple of weeks back and we had a bit of a natter.
Anyway, Wynn-Davis is no longer at the club.

He’s off to Alabama on a scholarship


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Tuesday, July 11, 2023, 19:37:18
How much did they charge a ticket out of interest? Club building it up and then sending a youth team is pretty poor imo
£8


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Tuesday, July 11, 2023, 19:38:13
11. Hubbard
14. Keyes

... apparently...
Keep an eye on that Hubbard.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Tuesday, July 11, 2023, 19:46:17
£8

Lot of money for an U18 pre season friendly


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Tuesday, July 11, 2023, 19:48:08
Decent crowd there, too. All good money for Corsham.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Tuesday, July 11, 2023, 20:07:32
Trialist B is a player released from Villa - Frith I think.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Tuesday, July 11, 2023, 20:28:02
I thought i seen last eek they said they were sending the kids didnt they


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, July 11, 2023, 22:45:42
I bumped into to PaulD on his morning dog walk a couple of weeks back and we had a bit of a natter.
Anyway, Wynn-Davis is no longer at the club.

He’s off to Alabama on a scholarship

Without wishing to go all mumsnet and stuff, if you bump into him again, let him know he can reach out if he needs any "local" help/knowledge.  Tuscaloosa (assuming Alabama of College Football fame) is a mere 3 1/2 hours from here - which is local :-)  Having made the move I can at least offer any insights I may have gained in the past few years.  Great Uni as well.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Wednesday, July 12, 2023, 01:32:14
Without wishing to go all mumsnet and stuff, if you bump into him again, let him know he can reach out if he needs any "local" help/knowledge.  Tuscaloosa (assuming Alabama of College Football fame) is a mere 3 1/2 hours from here - which is local :-)  Having made the move I can at least offer any insights I may have gained in the past few years.  Great Uni as well.

Will do. He doesn’t live far so occasionally see him about. Usually more a quick head nod & alright than a catch up but will pass on next time I see him.

In fairness - he still lurks on occasion so might read it himself.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Wednesday, July 12, 2023, 01:34:39
Also, don’t quote me but I *think* he said it was Mobile, Alabama*

If it isn’t the NFL or late 80s - 90s - earl 00s wrestlers my American geography is non existent.







*home of ‘Hardcore’ Holly.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, July 12, 2023, 03:51:05
I know Mobile, on the Gulf, a little further but a straight road down.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: The King of Tonga on Wednesday, July 12, 2023, 04:46:13
If you see him again I'm in algeciras, Cadiz Spain, I'm only a 10 hour flight with connections if he's happy to pay


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Wednesday, July 12, 2023, 05:05:08
Also, don’t quote me but I *think* he said it was Mobile, Alabama*

If it isn’t the NFL or late 80s - 90s - earl 00s wrestlers my American geography is non existent.







*home of ‘Hardcore’ Holly.

Hopefully he's not 'stuck inside of Mobile with the Memphis blues again' ?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, July 12, 2023, 05:19:17
Not much to glean from last night's friendly I guess. I wonder what the benefits of playing such a young team against a group of fully grown men. Clearly there have to be benefits otherwise why do it, but to me it seems a bit pointless giving the youth team such a tough, physical test so early in pre-season. Perhaps that's one of the reasons,  to make sure they are prepared physically?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, July 12, 2023, 06:27:22
Not much to glean from last night's friendly I guess. I wonder what the benefits of playing such a young team against a group of fully grown men. Clearly there have to be benefits otherwise why do it, but to me it seems a bit pointless giving the youth team such a tough, physical test so early in pre-season. Perhaps that's one of the reasons,  to make sure they are prepared physically?

The original plan was to send the first team.
I understand for all of our non-league friendlies, we send someone down to check the pitch is okay a week or so in advance.
Corshams pitch didn’t look great when checked last week, so they didn’t want to risk the first team, but told them they’d send the youths to honour the game.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, July 12, 2023, 06:40:33
Quote from: DiV
Will do. He doesn’t live far so occasionally see him about. Usually more a quick head nod & alright than a catch up but will pass on next time I see him.

In fairness - he still lurks on occasion so might read it himself.

I've Twitter DM'd him and directed him to this thread


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Wednesday, July 12, 2023, 06:47:17
The original plan was to send the first team.
I understand for all of our non-league friendlies, we send someone down to check the pitch is okay a week or so in advance.
Corshams pitch didn’t look great when checked last week, so they didn’t want to risk the first team, but told them they’d send the youths to honour the game.
Those horrible swindon bastards . Burn them


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, July 12, 2023, 06:55:16
The original plan was to send the first team.
I understand for all of our non-league friendlies, we send someone down to check the pitch is okay a week or so in advance.
Corshams pitch didn’t look great when checked last week, so they didn’t want to risk the first team, but told them they’d send the youths to honour the game.

'Operation human shield' type thing :)


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Wednesday, July 12, 2023, 07:51:10
Tbf, the pitch wasn’t great. Some noticeable undulations. Very much a ‘cut field’ type.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Wednesday, July 12, 2023, 10:04:30
Attendance 861


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: ThreeDrawsMentality on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 07:55:13
The Swansea City behind closed doors friendly today is a bit elusive. Checked their website and both their U21 and U18 teams have behind closed door friendlies today against Briton Ferry Llansawel.

No reference to us at all. Likewise with the first team fixtures.
https://www.swanseacity.com/news/academy-pre-season-fixtures-confirmed-0


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 08:07:18
Swansea want no outside media coverage


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 08:11:36
As Aud says

https://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/swanseacity/forum/299390/swansea-city-v-swindon-town-this-saturday/#7


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: ThreeDrawsMentality on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 08:21:04
Cheers gents. Shame we get no coverage today.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 08:24:48
I agree as the season gets nearer it's nice to get coverage on how things are shaping up maybe we will get updates from the Bristol City game behind closed doors next week.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 08:41:46
I agree as the season gets nearer it's nice to get coverage on how things are shaping up maybe we will get updates from the Bristol City game behind closed doors next week.

I think you can stream that game on their platform for a price.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 08:51:46
Cheers Bob


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 09:57:01
https://twitter.com/Official_STFC/status/1680155293953536005?t=aJK2pQ32f4tB-TyXdJo3uw&s=19

Swansea game is 12 today.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 10:18:29
Mahoney

Clayton
FBT
Lavinier

Shade
Hutton

McEachran
Khan
Cain

Austin
RHM

Subs: Two trialists, Fox, Brewitt, Hart, Jaxon Brown, Devine, Darcy, Wakeling, Adeloye, Aguiar, Minturn


Really not bad side that. Lavinier CB seems to be happening. No Brann on the bench so think one of the trialists will be Ward.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: UTR on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 10:23:21
Someone mentioned Wickham as a trialist. Not sure I can see that one


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 10:29:39
Mahoney

Clayton
FBT
Lavinier

Shade
Hutton

McEachran
Khan
Cain

Austin
RHM

Subs: Two trialists, Fox, Brewitt, Hart, Jaxon Brown, Devine, Darcy, Wakeling, Adeloye, Aguiar, Minturn


Really not bad side that. Lavinier CB seems to be happening. No Brann on the bench so think one of the trialists will be Ward.

I'm inclined to agree. As a first XI it's really not a disastrous side bearing in mind we've only signed a keeper. If we can add 5 decent signings, we really could challenge this season. I think I've probably done the current lot and manager a disservice by predicting 16th based on current playing staff.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Riddick on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 10:29:43
Mahoney

Clayton
FBT
Lavinier

Shade
Hutton

McEachran
Khan
Cain

Austin
RHM

Subs: Two trialists, Fox, Brewitt, Hart, Jaxon Brown, Devine, Darcy, Wakeling, Adeloye, Aguiar, Minturn


Really not bad side that. Lavinier CB seems to be happening. No Brann on the bench so think one of the trialists will be Ward.

Nothing else to puck is there. The squad is so short. Our best bench options are Brewitt, Devine, Darcy and Wakeling. Remember some of these Flynn has told to move on, adelyoe etc. Thankfully no injuries at the moment.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Riddick on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 10:39:31
One clutching at straws observation from the official clubs twitter. It could be a mistake from them, or me jumping on something. Everyone is using their new squad numbers, but Shade has 28. He wore that last season so likely a mistake, but he has worn 7 every game so far. So perhaps 7 has been vacated for someone....


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: UTR on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 10:42:21
One clutching at straws observation from the official clubs twitter. It could be a mistake from them, or me jumping on something. Everyone is using their new squad numbers, but Shade has 28. He wore that last season so likely a mistake, but he has worn 7 every game so far. So perhaps 7 has been vacated for someone....

Again, just passing on a rumour I heard in circles. Allegedly the 28 was temporarily vacated for Demetriou, thus Shade wearing 7 before but since that one broke down, no need to keep 28 vacant. Shade is back to wearing 28 today.

Probably put that one under the 80% bollocks section but just something I heard.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 10:49:21
Someone mentioned Wickham as a trialist. Not sure I can see that one
Didnt have his contract renewed at Cardiff in the Summer but after his good spell at FGR he will probably still get a L1 club I would think.

Is the type of striker that Flynn loves though. If i is indeed him and its a massive IF we did sign him that was be a statement of intent.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 10:50:27
If Demetriou wanted 7 as a centre back then I'm glad we didn't sign him!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: UTR on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 10:51:54
If Demetriou wanted 7 as a centre back then I'm glad we didn't sign him!

Sorry I meant the 28 was allegedly freed up. I wasn’t convinced when I heard it, seemed very random but then checked and saw he was wearing 28 at Newport.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Riddick on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 10:56:23
Didnt have his contract renewed at Cardiff in the Summer but after his good spell at FGR he will probably still get a L1 club I would think.

Is the type of striker that Flynn loves though. If i is indeed him and its a massive IF we did sign him that was be a statement of intent.

If we believe the rumours from STFCboo on the 2 strikers we have missed out on, and IF this is a player on trial, then it seems very clear Flynn wants a taller striker in at least. Which makes sense.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 10:57:53
It would be the sort i think Charlie would thrive of too


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 11:03:27
Worries me more than all the rumoured trialists / missed out signings are nothing but tall strikers.

Not our most pressing need imo and Austin is no slouch when it comes to challenging in the air or holding the ball up. Sure, not his main strengths either but if I was looking to add to the squad, yes a target man would be on the list but wouldn’t be top 3.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Riddick on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 11:06:28
Worries me more than all the rumoured trialists / missed out signings are nothing but tall strikers.



Don't worry we have missed out on lots of defenders as well based on the rumours!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 11:10:09
Don't worry we have missed out on lots of defenders as well based on the rumours!
How many is lots


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 11:11:59
Don't worry we have missed out on lots of defenders as well based on the rumours!
:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 11:15:15
Don't worry we have missed out on lots of defenders as well based on the rumours!

…seen very little evidence of that.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 11:18:25
…seen very little evidence of that.
I think it was a joke.

We havent actually seen any evidence of any strikers that we have missed out on too.

Currently the only player we know 100% that we missed out on was Moore-Taylor and ironically he was a defender, so technically Riddick is right, we have actually missed out on 100% more defenders than attackers so far!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 11:19:24
Again, just passing on a rumour I heard in circles. Allegedly the 28 was temporarily vacated for Demetriou, thus Shade wearing 7 before but since that one broke down, no need to keep 28 vacant. Shade is back to wearing 28 today.

Probably put that one under the 80% bollocks section but just something I heard.

Is 28 a number Shade has used through out his career / has some attachment too?
Can’t see the logic in him being willing to give up #28 for #7 in the first place in that case. Even less logic in changing to #7 to then go back to #28 if it was suddenly free again because if it is his preferred number he wouldn’t have given it up in the first place.



Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 11:20:55
I think it was a joke.

We havent actually seen any evidence of any strikers that we have missed out on too.

Currently the only player we know 100% that we missed out on was Moore-Taylor and ironically he was a defender, so technically Riddick is right, we have actually missed out on 100% more defenders than attackers so far!

Evidence that you’ve seen / heard*

Yes, JMT was on trail so that one makes sense.
…but I stand by what I’ve said about Johnson & Smith turning us down.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 11:21:50
Doing OK at Swansea. Had a couple of chances. Jerry Yates playing for them.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 11:22:32
Is 28 a number Shade has used through out his career / has some attachment too?
Can’t see the logic in him being willing to give up #28 for #7 in the first place in that case. Even less logic in changing to #7 to then go back to #28 if it was suddenly free again because if it is his preferred number he wouldn’t have given it up in the first place.
Shade had the number 28 at Walsall and at Leicester too.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: UTR on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 11:23:11
Is 28 a number Shade has used through out his career / has some attachment too?
Can’t see the logic in him being willing to give up #28 for #7 in the first place in that case. Even less logic in changing to #7 to then go back to #28 if it was suddenly free again because if it is his preferred number he wouldn’t have given it up in the first place.



No idea tbh, made little sense to me when I first heard it. Only link that made it somewhat credible was seeing that Shade had 28 last season, has worn 7 all pre season up until now (a couple days after we hear Demetriou to Crewe) and now gone back to 28. Paired with Demetriou wearing 28 at Newport.



Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 11:32:19
Doing OK at Swansea. Had a couple of chances. Jerry Yates playing for them.
How do you know? Thought there was no media coverage?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Posh Red on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 11:34:52
I see Brewitt is on after 30mins, presumably someone has picked up an injury.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 11:35:30
Adver updates. Starting defender for Town off injured as Brewitt has come on.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 11:36:47
14'

Town have a chance early on.

Blake-Tracy picks up the ball following a short corner from McEachran, who then turns and hits a well struck attempt into the side netting.

17’

Shade wins a free-kick along the left and bends an effort towards the top right corner, but Fisher tips it over the bar.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 11:38:46
How do you know? Thought there was no media coverage?

Official site doing updates on twitter.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 11:39:56
Ah! Thank you.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 11:43:57
1-0 boo

Swans line up

Swansea lineup for you:

Fisher, Key, Wood, Naughton, B. Cooper, Abdulai, Grimes, Fulton, Paterson, Piroe, Yates

No idea how strong or otherwise that is


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 11:45:01
Quote from: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey
1-0 boo

fucking hell, we are playing people off Twitter now


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Pericardinho on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 11:46:58
1-0 boo

Swans line up

Swansea lineup for you:

Fisher, Key, Wood, Naughton, B. Cooper, Abdulai, Grimes, Fulton, Paterson, Piroe, Yates

No idea how strong or otherwise that is

Very strong. Not too far off the best they can field.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 11:53:19
Nice. Yates off


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 12:01:16
Clayton went off after 20


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 12:09:03
Piroe adds a second for the Swans.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 12:12:10
3-0


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 12:12:14
3-0 now.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 12:13:58
Not learning much from this friendly only the gap between the two clubs is huge.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 12:14:23
Piroe adds a second for the Swans.
He is one heck of a player TBH.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 12:17:04
He is one heck of a player TBH.

Absolutely. Swansea have some superb technically gifted players. It was always going to be a huge step up from our last games.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Quagmire on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 12:19:45
Not learning much from this friendly only the gap between the two clubs is huge.

Same as all our friendlies tbh..


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 12:20:31
59'

A crossed delivery from Hutton finds Austin, but Fisher once again is there to clear any danger

Changes made by both teams

60’ | A triple change on the hour for Town

⬆️ Darcy, Minturn, Wakeling

⬇️ McEachran, Shade, Austin

[3-0]

#STFC


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 12:21:55
Same as all our friendlies tbh..

Fair point although it seems a long way to travel for a behind closed doors friendly.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 12:27:05
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Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 12:27:39
66’ | A handful of changes for Town, with the playing XI as follows:

Trialist A, Minturn, Brewitt, Hart, Hutton, Brown, Trialist B, Devine, Darcy, Fox, Wakeling

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Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 12:27:57
ward is on then


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 12:28:39
Devine fit - ish


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 12:31:22
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Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: UTR on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 12:36:58
League 2 squad with semi okay starting XI and little quality depth gets pumped by Championship side.

Shocker. Score won’t mean much.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: horlock07 on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 12:38:03
Who is trialist B?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 12:38:16
Wickham


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 12:45:18
League 2 squad with semi okay starting XI and little quality depth gets pumped by Championship side.

Shocker. Score won’t mean much.

Could happen at Bristol City next week as well🤣


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: UTR on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 12:47:46
Could happen at Bristol City next week as well🤣

They’re scraping past Torquay 3-2 at the minute with a fairly strong team.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 12:48:20
They’re scraping past Torquay 3-2 at the minute with a fairly strong team.

A little hope then'


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: newmarket red on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 12:53:22
Wickham
no thanks


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 12:59:21
no thanks

Fucking hell if we are looking at the likes of Connor Wickham then we are desperate.
For a start he is always injured.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 13:02:29
Not learning much from this friendly only the gap between the two clubs is huge.

The only learning we remain desperately short of a decent squad. Would go as far and say 5 but we will struggle to peddle some of the shite we already have.
Let’s just hope it looks a little more positive in 3 weeks.

Concerned to say the least.
Still time but at this rate looks like the loan market is where we will be heading again.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: welshred on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 13:02:41
Maybe this persuaded someone to get his chequebook out?!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Pericardinho on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 13:04:28
Fucking hell if we are looking at the likes of Connor Wickham then we are desperate.
For a start he is always injured.

6 goals in 16 for FGR last season and they were comfortably the shittest side in the league above us.

We could do a lot worse. Austin is going to play every game anyway so I'd happily have his experience and a different option.

He played 12 championship games last season for Cardiff as well. Who do we think we are to think we are better than that? we've just been pumped 5 by the club down the road from his last club!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: newmarket red on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 13:05:34
The only learning we remain desperately short of a decent squad. Would go as far and say 5 but we will struggle to peddle some of the shite we already have.
Let’s just hope it looks a little more positive in 3 weeks.

Concerned to say the least.
Still time but at this rate looks like the loan market is where we will be heading again.
so nothing has changed from last year if were looking at the likes conor wickham. :cry:


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 13:20:45
6 goals in 16 for FGR last season and they were comfortably the shittest side in the league above us.

We could do a lot worse. Austin is going to play every game anyway so I'd happily have his experience and a different option.

He played 12 championship games last season for Cardiff as well. Who do we think we are to think we are better than that? we've just been pumped 5 by the club down the road from his last club!

Agree. Conor Wickham seems a decent player for us to be picking up at this level. Assuming we don't have him on trial for a few weeks before he fucks off elsewhere while we still have out thumb up our ass on the contract.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Quagmire on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 13:25:04
The only learning we remain desperately short of a decent squad. Would go as far and say 5 but we will struggle to peddle some of the shite we already have.
Let’s just hope it looks a little more positive in 3 weeks.

Concerned to say the least.
Still time but at this rate looks like the loan market is where we will be heading again.

Are you ever anything other than concerned?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: JoeMezz on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 13:29:53
Wickham

Surely would make sense spending wages on 2 CBS and a CDM, more what we need


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Broadbents Tackle on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 13:31:07
Can't see it happening, unless we can work out how to sign an out of contract player on loan.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 13:39:12
Surprised by the reaction to Wickham on the last page, he's played his entire career above this level. Not prolific but that's not his game. Can't imagine he's a bargain basement option.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 13:42:10
Surprised by the reaction to Wickham on the last page, he's played his entire career above this level. Not prolific but that's not his game. Can't imagine he's a bargain basement option.

Yeah, agree. He's had his injuries, granted. But that is probably one of the reasons he has slid down the leagues.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 13:47:17
Surprised by the reaction to Wickham on the last page, he's played his entire career above this level. Not prolific but that's not his game. Can't imagine he's a bargain basement option.
Agreed, if it is indeed true, I would take him 100%.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 13:48:59
Wickham may be good for a season alternating with Austin but imagine wages would be a problem.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 14:15:09
Don’t think Wickham particularly fixes any of the issues this team / squad had last season.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 14:16:36
Agreed, midfield and defensive issues still there without decent recruitment.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 14:17:46
Don’t think Wickham particularly fixes any of the issues this team / squad had last season.

He certainly doesn't fix all of them, but having a big lad up front would certainly have helped at times.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 14:30:25
Connor Wickham.

Pros.
Played all of his career above L2.
Still only 30.
Should add some quality either alongside or as backup to Charlie.

Cons.
Poor injury record.

On balance, if he's available and wants to come then sign him.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Kronau on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 14:48:00
2021/22 Wickham scored 1 goal in 17. I saw him a couple of times for Milton Keynes and wasn’t impressed.

Very much in the Harry Smith mould, he only scores with his head.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 14:57:41
Scoring goals would not be his primary role though, we were shouting out for a focal point striker all last season that would act as a target man and put the likes of Austin, Wakeling, RHM in.  If that player pitches in with 10 goals of his own, but ends up creating 10-20 goals for each of those other players, then that would be the point.

Opinions are like arseholes though..


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Mooneyraker on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 15:04:01
At this point my expectations have been managed to such an extent that I’d be delighted if we signed a traffic cone.

On that basis, delighted with Wickham as a rumour.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 15:09:30
Scoring goals would not be his primary role though, we were shouting out for a focal point striker all last season that would act as a target man and put the likes of Austin, Wakeling, RHM in.  If that player pitches in with 10 goals of his own, but ends up creating 10-20 goals for each of those other players, then that would be the point.

Opinions are like arseholes
 though..

Fair & can’t argue with that.
Personally think some strength & experience in at DM/CM & CB is a high priority.
Target man/hold up striker not much use if teams can still walk through our midfield.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 15:10:08
At this point my expectations have been managed to such an extent that I’d be delighted if we signed a traffic cone.

On that basis, delighted with Wickham as a rumour.
This is where I'm at as well...


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Anonymous77 on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 16:24:33
Maybe this persuaded someone to get his chequebook out?!
https://youtu.be/rNXRgbcQE-4
Some of these goals certainly should concern him.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 16:33:03
Some shite defending.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 16:33:19
Rumour has it that Brewitt can still be found in no mans land. Everything we have all said about Hutton also on show in a 3 minute clip there


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Quagmire on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 16:41:57
Brewitt is so bad


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: UTR on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 16:43:47
Defending pretty much exactly like season. Obviously harsh to judge against Championship opposition but not great start for the “Flynn will make the current squad good enough” argument.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Processed Beats on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 16:50:10
Brewitt is so bad

Yep. Utter garbage. Very concerning that we may be going into the season with him in matchday squads.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 16:52:22
I find this friendly a little baffling travelling 120 miles to play that calibre of opposition and hard to see what was learnt from it when a local league one team would have been more beneficial.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: UTR on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 16:54:25
I find this friendly a little baffling travelling 120 miles to play that calibre of opposition and hard to see what was learnt from it.

I guess it can provide the opportunity to see how a squad will react under match circumstances where they don’t have much of the ball and potentially how they respond going 1 or 2 goals down or being under consistent pressure, do they pitch in and respond or cave and capitulate.

Unfortunately as fans we watched the majority of this lot capitulate more often than respond


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 16:55:39
TBF if Flynn sees that 2 or 3 are nowhere near good enough and we improve on them then it's worth it i suppose. It works both ways as well, it does sound like first half we played well and created chances so if a few of those chances have been taken we would be sat saying it was a good run out


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 16:56:16
Fair & can’t argue with that.
Personally think some strength & experience in at DM/CM & CB is a high priority.
Target man/hold up striker not much use if teams can still walk through our midfield.

Yeah there are definitely other priorities....but it would still be nice to sign someone.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: UTR on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 17:01:26
I know we likely won’t but starting next season with the wing back pairing of Shade and Hutton like we did last season makes me shudder


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 17:02:45
https://youtu.be/rNXRgbcQE-4
Some of these goals certainly should concern him.

I repeat, Hutton is absolute garbage outside of having a decent cross. I don't care what league Swansea are in, that is absolute toilet.

If we didn't seem utterly incapable of signing any fucker (even a traffic cone) I'd sell him for packet of monster munch in a heart beat.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: MangoRed on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 17:02:50
Hutton will be a huge asset if we keep him - 15 assists or whatever it was is freakish. Brewitt is a squad player, nothing more - we should be aiming for better for the XI. Don't think we should be making judgements off 2 min highlight reels from a pitch side camera against championship opposition.

But....

Bigger picture....Fanbase is toxic as fuck at the moment - 4.5k renewals/ST sales and possibly more, yet this is the feeling- not ideal for anyone. I remember the buzz in the 19/20 pre season and the crazy 2/3 weeks from the handover in ownership (slightly different I know). as said many times by others - No early business as promised.  Lots of gaps need filling for starting XI - if it wasn't good enough last season in a rancid league 2 its gonna struggle even more in this seasons league which is much improved going off others signings/ new teams. Need some more depth at centre half, how long till Devine breaks down ? probably want competition there if FBT is seen as a LCB. Crying out for a midfielder to do the nasty stuff, someone to replace Williams? Attackers can wait - that's a luxury at the mo far more important things to do, Wakeling RHM and Austin is fine to start with. 3 weeks to Col U and 3 friendlies left (2 after Tuesday) for new players/tactics to gel - not long at all. We've known since March time that we was L2 side again for sure, enough time to have planned. Teams were doing business in May.

I hope this a really busy week for us.




Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: newmarket red on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 17:04:28
Nothing has changed with our defending from last term i can see flyn gone by christmas. :no:


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 17:06:23
Yeah, we’d definitely struggle in the Championship…


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 17:08:29
TBF if Flynn sees that 2 or 3 are nowhere near good enough and we improve on them then it's worth it i suppose. It works both ways as well, it does sound like first half we played well and created chances so if a few of those chances have been taken we would be sat saying it was a good run out

Exactly. Makes sense for us to expose the weak links in preseason rather than just a bunch of non league games that flatter us and then they get exposed early in the season. Preseason has always been a mix of levels.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 17:16:10
Hutton will be a huge asset if we keep him - 15 assists or whatever it was is freakish. Brewitt is a squad player, nothing more - we should be aiming for better for the XI. Don't think we should be making judgements off 2 min highlight reels from a pitch side camera against championship opposition.

But....

Bigger picture....Fanbase is toxic as fuck at the moment - 4.5k renewals/ST sales and possibly more, yet this is the feeling- not ideal for anyone. I remember the buzz in the 19/20 pre season and the crazy 2/3 weeks from the handover in ownership (slightly different I know). as said many times by others - No early business as promised.  Lots of gaps need filling for starting XI - if it wasn't good enough last season in a rancid league 2 its gonna struggle even more in this seasons league which is much improved going off others signings/ new teams. Need some more depth at centre half, how long till Devine breaks down ? probably want competition there if FBT is seen as a LCB. Crying out for a midfielder to do the nasty stuff, someone to replace Williams? Attackers can wait - that's a luxury at the mo far more important things to do, Wakeling RHM and Austin is fine to start with. 3 weeks to Col U and 3 friendlies left (2 after Tuesday) for new players/tactics to gel - not long at all. We've known since March time that we was L2 side again for sure, enough time to have planned. Teams were doing business in May.

I hope this a really busy week for us.



Spot on i think this post, sums it up nicely.

I see the trust newsletter has just been released as well stating there were about £200ks worth of works that needed doing this summer on the stadium as well


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: theakston2k on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 17:20:32
On that evidence the Keeper also concerns me, not because he made mistakes (he didn’t) but because he looks tiny, he doesn’t seem to have any kind of presence. I do fear he’ll get bullied in this league, BFG and Brynn both had a certain stature about them, this one one doesn’t seem to have that. Hopefully what he lacks in height he makes up for in ability.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: JoeMezz on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 17:46:48
https://youtu.be/rNXRgbcQE-4
Some of these goals certainly should concern him.

Criticism labelled at Hutton but Brewitt looks like the weak link to me defensively


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 18:11:34
Regarding the keeper a couple of occasions he's caught the ball and looking to throw out quick but there was no interest/movement!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 18:21:29
Regarding the keeper a couple of occasions he's caught the ball and looking to throw out quick but there was no interest/movement!

That was as I understand it the way they were told to play, however, if you’ve not got the players or movement upfront to facilitate that option then you can’t. Saying that the amount of times we had the option to attack like that quickly were wasted. Because we didn’t have the players to capitalise on it who were possibly drilled in a way to not capitalise on it.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 18:21:56
Criticism labelled at Hutton but Brewitt looks like the weak link to me defensively

Yeah also horrific was Brewitt. Equally as hopeless.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 18:22:47
That was as I understand it the way they were told to play, however, if you’ve not got the players or movement upfront to facilitate that option then you can’t. Saying that the amount of times we had the option to attack like that quickly were wasted. Because we didn’t have the players to capitalise on it who were possibly drilled in a way to not capitalise on it.

Which you would think is worked on in training daily😀


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 18:51:08
ugh. dog shit defending.

can accept championship teams will open up a league 2 team but fuck me the 1st and 4th goals were horror show


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 20:51:21
Are you ever anything other than concerned?

I guess years of travelling all over the Country and getting older takes its toll.
Just want it to be our turn to be optimistic and have some sustainable success.
Maybe my expectation is higher than yours, decent sized club underperforming. Equally I detest this shite league and everything about it.

Still believe we will see movement this week.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 20:58:28
Hutton will be a huge asset if we keep him - 15 assists or whatever it was is freakish. Brewitt is a squad player, nothing more - we should be aiming for better for the XI. Don't think we should be making judgements off 2 min highlight reels from a pitch side camera against championship opposition.

But....

Bigger picture....Fanbase is toxic as fuck at the moment - 4.5k renewals/ST sales and possibly more, yet this is the feeling- not ideal for anyone. I remember the buzz in the 19/20 pre season and the crazy 2/3 weeks from the handover in ownership (slightly different I know). as said many times by others - No early business as promised.  Lots of gaps need filling for starting XI - if it wasn't good enough last season in a rancid league 2 its gonna struggle even more in this seasons league which is much improved going off others signings/ new teams. Need some more depth at centre half, how long till Devine breaks down ? probably want competition there if FBT is seen as a LCB. Crying out for a midfielder to do the nasty stuff, someone to replace Williams? Attackers can wait - that's a luxury at the mo far more important things to do, Wakeling RHM and Austin is fine to start with. 3 weeks to Col U and 3 friendlies left (2 after Tuesday) for new players/tactics to gel - not long at all. We've known since March time that we was L2 side again for sure, enough time to have planned. Teams were doing business in May.

I hope this a really busy week for us.




Spot on as always.
Ffs we are 3 weeks from the start of the season with no out and out experienced centre half.
Defensively weak in defence and midfield.
Still time but leaving it late as always.
Surely they know they are going to get shit with the statements they made if they don’t get it sorted?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Quagmire on Saturday, July 15, 2023, 21:54:09
Spot on as always.
Ffs we are 3 weeks from the start of the season with no out and out experienced centre half.
Defensively weak in defence and midfield.
Still time but leaving it late as always.
Surely they know they are going to get shit with the statements they made if they don’t get it sorted?

You and me both know mate that there is money there this year.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Sunday, July 16, 2023, 07:25:22
We were doing OK until Clayton went off


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Super Hans on Sunday, July 16, 2023, 07:36:07
We were doing OK until Clayton went off
Should have covered him up and put him in the fridge.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Sunday, July 16, 2023, 07:41:36
You and me both know mate that there is money there this year.

You would like to hope so. Decent ST renewals at this level, pitch renovations etc.
All in favour of being careful with money, at this level critical but you would hope plenty of options to strengthen are there.
Full trust in Flynn and another week to get the natives less restless.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Sunday, July 16, 2023, 08:42:37
You and me both know mate that there is money there this year.

Do you know/wonder if the unexpected spend on making sure the CG gets a safety certificate, circa 200k if I'm not mistaken might have affected the player budget?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Sunday, July 16, 2023, 08:46:57
https://youtu.be/rNXRgbcQE-4
Some of these goals certainly should concern him.

That's 4th goal! Wow!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, July 16, 2023, 09:30:05
Some poor defending there but Swansea finished 10th in the Championship, of course there was going to be a gap between the teams, roughly 60 on finishing positions, and it showed.

Brewitt is a decent back up defender but I don't want to rely on him in every game.
 
Minturn looked lost positionally too for a couple of goals.

Hutton cannot defend.

The keeper looks quite small for a keeper and could struggle against teams bombarding us from corners.

Pretty much as you were, not much learned from that game.

Judging by the squad I would suggest that it wasnt Wickham as trialist B and more likely a trialist midfielder as from what we saw it seemd Wakeling was up front on his own for the 2nd half.

As for those complaining about the gap between the teams, I refer you back to this game in 2019

http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/MatchCentre.asp?Friendly=YES&MatchID=2020994000

A 6-1 defeat BCD vs Championship side Birmingham, where we looked awful, it was shown on ifollow.

That season we won the L2 title. (not that I am suggesting we will this season but putting the result into perspective).


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Sunday, July 16, 2023, 09:44:43
Presuming a fair few available, experienced, hairy-arsed CBs have found clubs already. Don’t know where we go now - hopefully it’s not a young loanee. A midfield destroyer shouldn’t be too hard to find - maybe still Kinsella. Hutton needs to be stripped of any defensive duties - let him do what he does best. Few tweaks, 3/4 new players and should be good to go. Whether that will be good enough remains to be seen.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: adje on Sunday, July 16, 2023, 09:53:28
Didn't we make a lot of changes at HT? Presuming our "strongest side" held them to 1 nil. Or not?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Sunday, July 16, 2023, 10:05:13
Held them until Clayton went off


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: tans on Sunday, July 16, 2023, 10:07:52
Will the Bristol City game on tuesday be on Robins TV? If so it will probably be on iptv


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Sunday, July 16, 2023, 10:12:44
Will the Bristol City game on tuesday be on Robins TV? If so it will probably be on iptv

I believe so. Will take my lunch break at 12.30 on Tuesday I reckon!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, July 16, 2023, 10:33:13
Will the Bristol City game on tuesday be on Robins TV? If so it will probably be on iptv
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TUESDAY 18th JULY

SWINDON TOWN (HPC) KICK OFF 12:30pm : Coverage will be available on Robins TV

According to their website it is, no idea if IPTV will have it or not but its possible, is RobinsTV a station on IPTV?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: tans on Sunday, July 16, 2023, 11:26:45
According to their website it is, no idea if IPTV will have it or not but its possible, is RobinsTV a station on IPTV?

On octoiptv they used to be listed under the efl clubs section but now that has changed. Ive just messaged them to ask


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: RobertT on Sunday, July 16, 2023, 13:55:55
Do you know/wonder if the unexpected spend on making sure the CG gets a safety certificate, circa 200k if I'm not mistaken might have affected the player budget?

It shouldn't, it's a separate company so would need to finance any work themselves.  They could of course ask the club for finance, but it is under no obligation to provide it.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, July 16, 2023, 15:10:14
On octoiptv they used to be listed under the efl clubs section but now that has changed. Ive just messaged them to ask
Brill can you let us know if it will be shown, TIA.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Sunday, July 16, 2023, 15:19:52
It shouldn't, it's a separate company so would need to finance any work themselves.  They could of course ask the club for finance, but it is under no obligation to provide it.

Wasn't it announced in a recent AB meeting about the unexpected stadium spend? Or have I totally got my wires crossed.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: RobertT on Sunday, July 16, 2023, 15:25:06
Wasn't it announced in a recent AB meeting about the unexpected stadium spend? Or have I totally got my wires crossed.

It's possible - the Leaseholder could have taken responsibility for the maintenance of the buildings.  I imagine that such knowledge should be freely available given the fans own 50%.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: RobertT on Sunday, July 16, 2023, 15:28:55
Here we go, clear as mud:

Everything acquired from SBC will be leased to the Club through a 250-year lease agreement with an annual rent payable to the JV. The Club will be responsible to keep the ground in good order/repair at their own cost once existing defects and dilapidations have been addressed by the JV.

It would boil down to whether or not the immediate maintenance costs are covered under that bit about existing defects?  If so, then the JV should have paid for them - once up and running it's on the club, so I retract my previous comments.  If I remember correctly the club was on the hook previously as well, just they didn't agree they were and so next to nothing got repaired.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: ThreeDrawsMentality on Sunday, July 16, 2023, 16:33:43
Some Swansea friendly pictures have been uploaded and look to show Devines hamstring going again
https://www.flickr.com/photos/194968541@N04/sets/72177720309805808/


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Sunday, July 16, 2023, 16:40:15
Some Swansea friendly pictures have been uploaded and look to show Devines hamstring going again
https://www.flickr.com/photos/194968541@N04/sets/72177720309805808/


And Trialist B is almost certainly NOT Conor Wickham


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Sunday, July 16, 2023, 17:25:08
This is trialist B

Jordan Fankwe

‘ How would you describe your playing style?
I would say I’m someone who destroys and breaks up play. I like to make tackles and win the ball. I see myself playing in centre-midfield as a holding player, certainly focusing more on the defence. I look up to Wilfred Ndidi from Leicester City and try to take elements out of his game.

Your footballing idol?
When I was younger, I watched Claude Makélélé. He was a really strong player, really good on the ball and he was a soldier for the team. That was something that I really liked because I try to be solid for the team and replicate his attributes.

Biggest influence?
I would say that when I first came to England, I met someone called Patrick from Nottingham Forest. He was the first person that I met when I came to England, and everywhere I have been he has been so important in my life and career. He has always helped me and given me great advice.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Sunday, July 16, 2023, 17:36:52
Be a loan i think from Watford if we pursue it


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Sunday, July 16, 2023, 17:42:21
Sure he’s OOC

Definitely the position we need


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: RobertT on Sunday, July 16, 2023, 17:43:51
Be a loan i think from Watford if we pursue it

He was released a couple of weeks ago.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Sunday, July 16, 2023, 17:46:36
Ah very strange that one


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Sunday, July 16, 2023, 17:47:49
You would expect him to have many options so strange if we did actually sign him.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Sunday, July 16, 2023, 17:50:27
What isn’t?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: RobertT on Sunday, July 16, 2023, 17:53:13
You would expect him to have many options so strange if we did actually sign him.

I wouldn't be so sure - he's basically had a career in the Academy at Notts Forest, then a season with Mickleover (Southern Premier League - Supermarine level) and a few months in Watford's Academy before being released at the first option.  Never went out on loan as he was released by Forest before he'd have hit that age really.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Sunday, July 16, 2023, 17:54:34
I wouldn't be so sure - he's basically had a career in the Academy at Notts Forest, then a season with Mickleover (Southern Premier League) and a few months in Watford's Academy before being released at the first option.  Never went out on loan as he was released by Forest before he'd have hit that age really.

Fair enough😀


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Sunday, July 16, 2023, 17:55:55
Some Swansea friendly pictures have been uploaded and look to show Devines hamstring going again
https://www.flickr.com/photos/194968541@N04/sets/72177720309805808/

Oh dear.

Shame, as he’s looked quite good in the minor cameos he’s played.



Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: RobertT on Sunday, July 16, 2023, 17:56:09
I mean, I hope he (Fankwe) turns out great in the role he plays - we need someone there, BUT, this would be a puntiest of punts again.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Sunday, July 16, 2023, 18:00:49
Definitely the type of player and position we need. Lets hope he's mustard.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nemo on Sunday, July 16, 2023, 18:25:26
He's the kind of player you'd expect to be on trial I guess - a bigger, more experienced name would (you'd think) expect just to be offered a contract.


Title: Re: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: horlock07 on Sunday, July 16, 2023, 19:00:00
Here we go, clear as mud:

Everything acquired from SBC will be leased to the Club through a 250-year lease agreement with an annual rent payable to the JV. The Club will be responsible to keep the ground in good order/repair at their own cost once existing defects and dilapidations have been addressed by the JV.

It would boil down to whether or not the immediate maintenance costs are covered under that bit about existing defects?  If so, then the JV should have paid for them - once up and running it's on the club, so I retract my previous comments.  If I remember correctly the club was on the hook previously as well, just they didn't agree they were and so next to nothing got repaired.
Pretty standard stuff, you don't take on a lease with a repairing clause unless you are satisfied the asset is in decent nick, would normally be boxed off by the party taking the lease getting their own survey done and agreeing a position prior  to signing.

The elephant here is that the lessee is also 50% of the landlord, but I suspect its all pretty irrelevant anyway as unless the trust suddenly find £100k down the back of the settee or the Eady Trust have some more to chip in the majority will be coming out of clems back pocket.

Whether this is directly detrimental to the transfer/wage budget is I suspect entirely unknown to anyone on here.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Sunday, July 16, 2023, 19:15:04
Quote from: RobertT
I mean, I hope he (Fankwe) turns out great in the role he plays - we need someone there, BUT, this would be a puntiest of punts again.

Agreed.

Though as I'm always told, 'he's only on trial, doesn't mean we'll sign him' 😁
---
I'm trying to make sense of having not many trialists.

optimistic me says we must have irons in fires instead.

I get the impression you (tef) don't want to hear the pessimistic interpretation


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Sunday, July 16, 2023, 19:43:07
I am going to go all Ryan Whelan and predict a big week


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Sunday, July 16, 2023, 19:46:19
fair enough. It's certainly crunch time.

I'm thinking ins and outs.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Riddick on Sunday, July 16, 2023, 19:47:38
After this week and Eastliegh, we only have 1 more friendly right?

So lets hope you are correct.


Title: Re: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Benzel on Sunday, July 16, 2023, 19:48:24
I am going to go all Ryan Whelan and predict a big week
Bloody hope so!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Sunday, July 16, 2023, 20:20:05
Hearing signing tomorrow from couple of places.

We'll see.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Posh Red on Sunday, July 16, 2023, 20:27:44
We didn’t sign Doyle until four or five games into the season, but you would hope we will have most of our business done before that


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Riddick on Sunday, July 16, 2023, 20:56:27
We didn’t sign Doyle until four or five games into the season, but you would hope we will have most of our business done before that

Its fine to sign the cherry on top of the cake late. I think we all know and accept some of the very best are only available last minute, particularly loans, which Doyle was, as it takes the parent club doing their business to know what they will move on.

The problem at the moment is we dont have much of a cake to put that cherry on. We have the team from the second half of the season (the poorest half) without the clubs top goalscrorer and best player (Williams).

So lets get the 4 or 5 we need first then if we can get a cherry or two late on then great.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Berniman on Sunday, July 16, 2023, 21:14:41
So he would be the mystery guy in the photo of Wakeling's watch then?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nemo on Monday, July 17, 2023, 07:34:54
9am press conference this morning, just a pre-game one but might be a few things coming out of it.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Pericardinho on Monday, July 17, 2023, 07:35:36
Might be told we're close on a player again!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, July 17, 2023, 07:36:51
9am press conference this morning, just a pre-game one but might be a few things coming out of it.

Probably worth doing, there are a lot of questions from fans about lack of activity in the transfer market. Might be good to get a bit of clarity to ease a few nerves.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Quagmire on Monday, July 17, 2023, 07:50:17
9am press conference this morning, just a pre-game one but might be a few things coming out of it.

Do we know his favourite cheese yet?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nemo on Monday, July 17, 2023, 07:52:16
Do we know his favourite cheese yet?

It's probably out of stock, whatever it is.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, July 17, 2023, 08:00:35
Do we know his favourite cheese yet?

It's Caerphilly, which is how he's doing his transfer business.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Quagmire on Monday, July 17, 2023, 08:01:43
It's Caerphilly, which is how he's doing his transfer business.

I hate myself for smiling.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, July 17, 2023, 08:14:44
press conference delayed by 15 minutes.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, July 17, 2023, 08:16:31
press conference delayed by 15 minutes.

Is that 'cos the new press conference sponsor is stuck in traffic.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Monday, July 17, 2023, 08:17:23
We’re becoming right cynical cunts on here!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: welshred on Monday, July 17, 2023, 08:20:48
Love Joe Acklams sarcastic updates on the Total Sport blog. Poor lad is tuning in from his holiday


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, July 17, 2023, 08:28:24
It's starting now. Needless to say most of the questions raised are about signings/players in plans/budgets etc.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Monday, July 17, 2023, 08:32:47
Clayton 6-12 weeks out

Devine surgery needed hamstring tear

Ffs


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nemo on Monday, July 17, 2023, 08:34:15
Fucking hell.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Monday, July 17, 2023, 08:38:57
Looking at young loans from Bristol City.

Hopefully 1 today not the one mentioned last week. Liked JMT but we never offered a contract as we have other priorities - which begs the question, why have him on trial in the first place.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Riddick on Monday, July 17, 2023, 08:40:31
Clayton 6-12 weeks out

Devine surgery needed hamstring tear

Ffs

I think we have to right Devine off forever. Clayton Injury is a real blow though.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Riddick on Monday, July 17, 2023, 08:41:31
I see Flynn talking about tomorrow being 120 min games, being able to give players 60-70 mins, but sending two different squads to hereford and bristol, how many damn players does that require?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Monday, July 17, 2023, 08:41:56
We’re becoming right cynical cunts on here!

Becoming?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Monday, July 17, 2023, 08:43:37
There is interest in Hutton but valuation needs to be met blah, blah, blah


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Monday, July 17, 2023, 09:00:55
Clayton 6-12 weeks out

Devine surgery needed hamstring tear

Ffs

Fucking hell.

Massive blow that.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, July 17, 2023, 09:04:26
There is interest in Hutton but valuation needs to be met blah, blah, blah

At this level I imagine literally everyone has a value that if its met means they will be sold.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Monday, July 17, 2023, 09:32:01
Back to the old swap Hutton for Tomlinson I expect - plus a bit of cash. At least Tomlinsonhas a bit of defensive nous about him.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Monday, July 17, 2023, 09:38:28
It's probably out of stock, whatever it is.

 :girlgiggle:


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Monday, July 17, 2023, 09:39:04
We’re becoming right cynical cunts on here!

Best form of entertainment we have at the moment.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Monday, July 17, 2023, 09:47:42
Apart from when we do sign someone. Then it’s all about how shit he is.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Monday, July 17, 2023, 09:47:53
Clayton 6-12 weeks out

Devine surgery needed hamstring tear

Ffs

 :suicide:


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Monday, July 17, 2023, 09:48:48
Looking at young loans from Bristol City.

Hopefully 1 today not the one mentioned last week. Liked JMT but we never offered a contract as we have other priorities - which begs the question, why have him on trial in the first place.

Do we? Two defenders are injured already.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Monday, July 17, 2023, 09:49:32
Back to the old swap Hutton for Tomlinson I expect - plus a bit of cash. At least Tomlinsonhas a bit of defensive nous about him.

He’ll be company for Devine I suppose…


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nemo on Monday, July 17, 2023, 09:50:47
Do we? Two defenders are injured already.

That's an order of events problem, JMT re-signed at FGR before Clayton was injured. I suspect his contract offer today would have been higher, but these things happen.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Monday, July 17, 2023, 09:52:16
Yeah, if Clayton does down injured the previous week - we sign JMT*















*then sell him to FGR this week


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Monday, July 17, 2023, 09:53:05
There is interest in Hutton but valuation needs to be met blah, blah, blah

I'd say sell if we weren't so fucking incapable of making signings for fuck sake.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Monday, July 17, 2023, 09:57:02
Back to the old swap Hutton for Tomlinson I expect - plus a bit of cash. At least Tomlinsonhas a bit of defensive nous about him.

This. Take it.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Monday, July 17, 2023, 09:58:29
He’ll be company for Devine I suppose…

Is he that injury prone? Wasn't in his first stint here.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Monday, July 17, 2023, 09:59:19
That's an order of events problem, JMT re-signed at FGR before Clayton was injured. I suspect his contract offer today would have been higher, but these things happen.

Or we could have been signing players already knowing we'd be short with an injury or two.

You know, like a non complete basket case football club.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: JoeMezz on Monday, July 17, 2023, 10:05:06
Is he that injury prone? Wasn't in his first stint here.

Didn't he play about 5 games and then get injured for the rest of the season?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Monday, July 17, 2023, 10:51:44
Didn't he play about 5 games and then get injured for the rest of the season?

Fuck knows. Not how I remember it but I may be wrong and bit blinded by his quality.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Posh Red on Monday, July 17, 2023, 11:01:19
Fuck knows. Not how I remember it but I may be wrong and bit blinded by his quality.

He played 10 games in the first season, but did miss a few weeks in the middle of his spell and missed the last four league games (and the playoffs)


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: tans on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 08:04:29
According to their website it is, no idea if IPTV will have it or not but its possible, is RobinsTV a station on IPTV?

Doesnt look like there is a feed on my IPTV, that might change thougg


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 08:33:58
It’s only a fiver you tight gits


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 08:39:05
Doesnt look like there is a feed on my IPTV, that might change thougg
Bugger, I will have a look to see how much the ribins bastards are charging.

Ah I see Aud posted, I just didnt want to put money directly into their pocket :)


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 08:48:30
Jimmy is probably in Brizzle as we type.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 09:05:35
Doesnt look like there is a feed on my IPTV, that might change thougg

It's available on my feed, I've just checked.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 09:12:23
Quote from: tans
Doesnt look like there is a feed on my IPTV, that might change thougg

update playlist

it's in the friendlies section


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 10:18:56
I have no friendly section on mine, what's the site streaming it?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ides of March on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 10:20:59
I have no friendly section on mine, what's the site streaming it?

Should be able to buy from this

https://bristolcitypayments.streamamg.com/account/register/step1


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 10:26:20
Wow the entire trialist family



Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 10:27:24
I count 8!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Broadbents Tackle on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 10:31:46
I'd imagine that's us having a look at a few Bristol City players to see how they'd fit in, given Flynn's comments about looking at loans from them.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 10:31:50
So that's Shade, Aguiar and Adeloye off to Hereford tonight looking at that line-up. Not sure if that tells us anything or not about potential first team plans for this season?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Riddick on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 10:32:59
So that's Shade, Aguiar and Adeloye off to Hereford tonight looking at that line-up. Not sure if that tells us anything or not about potential first team plans for this season?

It may point to those being the ones he wants to shift. Though Shade kinda surprises me given the way he has talked about him. He could have a knock as well. We will have to wait and see who plays tonight.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 10:34:18
Would be very surprised if Flynn wants Shade out, imagine it's either a knock or he wants to try him at RWB or up front rather than LWB.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 10:34:25
Feck me, looks like the trialist delivery has finally arrived from Temu.....


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Sippo on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 10:34:34
Wow the entire trialist family



Some mum's need to use a bit of imagination when naming their child.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 10:34:53
Or in goal


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Riddick on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 10:35:26
Spot the trialist is the real fun of early preseason. Are we assuming they are all bristol city youths we are looking at?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Hyabb17 on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 10:36:28
Bristol City players who we can potentially take ''on loan''.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 10:39:13
Shade is on the bench apparently. Whilst Trialist A wears the number 29 shirt - the club have just tweeted.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 10:40:19
Where has this link with City suddenly come from, does Flynn have some history with them or something?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Hyabb17 on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 10:41:51
Where has this link with City suddenly come from, does Flynn have some history with them or something?

He said in his presser yesterday that he has a very good relationship with them & will look to take some players from them.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 10:42:21
Where has this link with City suddenly come from, does Flynn have some history with them or something?
May be wrong but i am sure he said the other day we were looking at 1 or 2 on loan


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 10:42:46
Where has this link with City suddenly come from, does Flynn have some history with them or something?

This is what he said yesterday in the presser -

"We'll have two squads for the pair of games. Squads not finalised just yet. Flynn says he will have a look at a handful of Bristol City players who are available for loan as well. Players will start being given longer minutes now, and most will have over an hour."

Not sure if there is any link per se, just a chance to see what we can get from their loan bucket/bin. Be funny if Kadji gets a game.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Riddick on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 10:44:58
Sad for the people that paid to go to Hereford later, but honestly if you looked at the two friendlies on the same day it was pretty obvious which was going to have the first team at.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: tans on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 10:45:57
This is what he said yesterday in the presser -

"We'll have two squads for the pair of games. Squads not finalised just yet. Flynn says he will have a look at a handful of Bristol City players who are available for loan as well. Players will start being given longer minutes now, and most will have over an hour."

Not sure if there is any link per se, just a chance to see what we can get from their loan bucket/bin. Be funny if Kadji gets a game.

He had the likes of Antoine Semenyo on loan at Newport


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 10:57:31
Today's game will be two 45 minute periods, followed by a further 30 minutes of action. ⏱



Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 10:58:48
Shade is on the bench at City


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: ThreeDrawsMentality on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 10:59:21
Looking at that City starting lineup, Saturdays 5-0 is getting eclipsed.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: JoeMezz on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:00:43
Feck me, looks like the trialist delivery has finally arrived from Temu.....

Which one is Puki?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:01:45
Quote from: Hyabb17
Bristol City players who we can potentially take ''on loan''.

meh. excitement reset back to 0 on them then


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:03:14
meh. excitement reset back to 0 on them then
You had 5 minutes Batch, that's progress  ;)


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:05:10
I would imagine the trialists on our bench are a few of their ones to take a look at so that'll be interesting


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:05:13
what a 5 minutes..it's the happiest I've been all pre-season


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:19:00
I’ve been told trialist A is another signing that could be announced today.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Riddick on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:20:36
I’ve been told trialist A is another signing that could be announced today.

Lets hope they are good then!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:24:27
I’ve been told trialist A is another signing that could be announced today.

I was thinking trialist ‘A’ must be pretty close to a first team appointment.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: ThreeDrawsMentality on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:26:41
I’ve been told trialist A is another signing that could be announced today.
Looks like Sam Pearson of Bristol City


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:26:43
Bristol City comms...."Swindon signed a new player today but he wont be involved" as Kemp kicks off the game!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Lemis on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:27:48
McEachran given the captain's armband today


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:28:24
I’ve been told trialist A is another signing that could be announced today.
Left winger/wingback number 29?  short blonde hair, looks lively so far.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Sippo on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:29:21
Is it on IPTV? I have got the tennis...


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ides of March on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:30:17
Positive start


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:30:35
Positive start
Looking good so far.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Hyabb17 on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:31:28
Is it on IPTV? I have got the tennis...

Same here.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:33:51
Town playing a really high press, and playing it well so far.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ides of March on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:35:26
We’ve had a couple of nice breaks down the right with Hutton. City have had the best chance so far but we’ve settled the better


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:37:30
Brewitt with 3 bad mistakes so far, 2 fouls and a sliced clearance.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Sippo on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:38:07
Are you watching on IPTV?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ides of March on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:39:01
Was said before, but a few City fans on Twitter reckon trialist A is Sam Pearson. Midfielder, spent the second half of last season on loan at Wimbledon


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:39:56
Quote from: Sippo
Is it on IPTV? I have got the tennis...

looks like it isn't :(


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:40:26
Are you watching on IPTV?
Nope its only a fiver on BCTV


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ides of March on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:40:40
Brilliant save from Mahoney


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:40:49
2 great saves by the new keeper.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:40:50
Was said before, but a few City fans on Twitter reckon trialist A is Sam Pearson. Midfielder, spent the second half of last season on loan at Wimbledon

Think he's a right winger, which wouldn't make a lot of sense with the 5-3-2 structure.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:41:58
Another bit of Shiite defending from Brewitt there. Good save though.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:42:30
Hutton again


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ides of March on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:42:31
1-0 City. They’ve started to dominate in the last 5 minutes


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:42:36
1-0 city


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:42:39
2 great saves by the new keeper.

That is encouraging.

We need defenders desperately but if the new  keeper is mustard that puts me at ease somewhat.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:42:51
Massive gaps in the defence there behind Hutton cost us that goal.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ides of March on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:44:36
Trying to balance out if Hutton’s attacking output is worth his poor defensive showings. Can’t remember how many assists he got last season, but was an impressive number, but defensively he’s a liability. Main job of a right back should be to be solid defensively, however he is our main creative threat. Suppose in League Two, it’s tough to find full backs both adept defensively and offensively.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Kinky Tom on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:44:57
What was Khan up to?  Just give it to the trialist who is acres of space, nope, give it away and gift them a goal.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:45:02
If we've found the lost signings pen can we shift Hutton out ASAP please?

If someone is willing to pay more than a packet of quavers, take the deal. Complete liability.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:45:28
however he is our main creative threat

At both ends.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:46:59
1-1 RHM


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ides of March on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:47:04
That link up between Austin and RHM was fantastic. 1-1


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:47:07
Great move.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:47:14
gooooooooooal #1

rhm after a good 1,2 with Austin


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Lemis on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:47:17
1-1 lovely one two between RHM and Austin


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:47:30
Attacking wise we will be fine. Please sort the defence out we have a chance


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:47:50
We did a goal. Fantastic.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:48:05
McEachran wins a tackle and passes to RHM down the middle, the Austin wide who crossed low for RHM to finsih from 15 yards, very nice move.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:48:25
Trying to balance out if Hutton’s attacking output is worth his poor defensive showings. Can’t remember how many assists he got last season, but was an impressive number, but defensively he’s a liability. Main job of a right back should be to be solid defensively, however he is our main creative threat. Suppose in League Two, it’s tough to find full backs both adept defensively and offensively.
It's no good having that many assists if he is costing you as many.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:48:38
wish the commentator would shut it, trying to hear what they are calling the Trialists


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:48:55
Attacking wise we will be fine. Please sort the defence out we have a chance

2 new CBs and a RB at minimum, please and thank you.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:49:09
Is Kemp playing


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:49:40
Is Kemp playing
Played a few nice passes but is not in the thick of it.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ides of March on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:50:03
Is Kemp playing

He is. Looks okay, not been involved too much thus far.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:50:17
had to check, he's #10


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: WEBBERhyde on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:50:23
Khan turning down an easy ball forward to the winger, opting instead for a blind backwards pass to an oppo player leading to a conceded goal. Lindsey ball is alive and well i see.

Great goal back from RHM and Austin though. Always hope with those two up front.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:50:25
I would take that Sam Bell on loan, always looking for a shot.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:50:33
Who’s the blond tousled haired lad. He looks lively.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ides of March on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:50:50
Poor defending from a corner… please don’t let it be another season of shit set piece defending


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:51:15
Who’s the blond tousled haired lad. He looks lively.

Sam Pearson, son of Nigel.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:52:25
nice to see we are still shit at goal kicks


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Mooneyraker on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:52:30
How are folks watching this? Is there a stream?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:52:53
Poor defending from a corner… please don’t let it be another season of shit set piece defending
Without a new CB or 2 it will be.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:53:13
Sam Pearson, son of Nigel.

Is he trialist A for us?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:53:13
Quote from: Mooneyraker
How are folks watching this? Is there a stream?

£5 robins TV


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ides of March on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:53:16
We look really lively going forward, encouraging. Defensively still shaky but really dangerous when attacking


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:53:53
How are folks watching this? Is there a stream?

Nope its only a fiver on BCTV


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:54:40
Another lovely pass from Kemp to the trialist there, 30 yards through players.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ides of March on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:55:23
Kemp and McEachran look very good in the middle. Especially impressive when considering the midfield they’re coming up against


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:55:36
I see Khan still likes his pirouette


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Kaufman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:58:35
How far are you guys behind on playback? Won't give it away


Title: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:59:00
32:45 in At 1:04pm : 1-1

Kemp fires over


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 11:59:27
Kemp has a pop from 20 yards but its high.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ides of March on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:00:17
Not been too impressed by Pearson


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ides of March on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:00:49
Potential penalty if RHM went down there


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:00:58
Positive start

So was Swansea but that didn't end too well


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Kinky Tom on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:01:31
We look really lively going forward, encouraging. Defensively still shaky but really dangerous when attacking

We will score goals, no doubt about that. There are teams ut there that will maybe have a better 11 but goals win games.  We do need to sort out some key positions though.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:01:35
Not been too impressed by Pearson
Is he the LWB trialist? I like the look of him, hes eager at least.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Lemis on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:02:27
Not been too impressed by Pearson

Was about to post the same, going to give him the benefit of the doubt and say it's probably due to not having trained with too much us yet


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ides of March on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:02:54
Is he the LWB trialist? I like the look of him, hes eager at least.

Believe so. He’s got himself about but been wasteful on a few occasions. Few touches too many but suppose as a trialist you’re trying to take more risks to stand out


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:03:06
so do we think Pearson is the target and the rest to make up numbers so we can send 2 squads out today?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Riddick on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:03:41
Is he the LWB trialist? I like the look of him, hes eager at least.

Eager but not much else. Right footed which is never as good that side. He's not delivered a decent ball yet.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:04:51
Eager but not much else. Right footed which is never as good that side. He's not delivered a decent ball yet.
At least he looks interested, unlike Hutton whos body language looks utter languid.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:04:58
Big fan of this formation tbh. No need for Austin to drop off and leaves 2 up the middle


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:06:45
He played against us at the end of last season for Wimbledon. Didn't think much of him tbh, I'm pretty sure he was dragged off at HT. Then again, they looked terrible, so hard for anyone to look good in that team.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Hyabb17 on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:07:17
IPTV now has the feed working


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:09:01
Got away with that some poor defending again but they hit the post almost unmarked.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:10:42
Interesting one really that Pearson.Isn't a LWB but being played there. Although he may not be what we are screaming out for i suppose if Darcy and RA are to leave as expected then we will still need numbers


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Riddick on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:10:56
At least he looks interested, unlike Hutton whos body language looks utter languid.

I dont see that at all. I think players are often judged for those things, Gladwin often was as well, in both his spells. Not always indicative of effort and certainly not quality.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:10:57
it's half asymmetric third time


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ides of March on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:11:30
Good link up between Austin and RHM for the goal. RHM looks really lively. Defensively we look a tad suspect, but we more than held our own. Thought our midfield matched theirs which is impressive.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:12:41
I quite enjoyed that first half TBF.

We created a bit and still look weak at CB/RB.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Lemis on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:13:31
So far so good, some concerning defending but some good attacking play. Amusing watching Flynn giving the team talk with the players sat on the floor


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:15:31
I quite enjoyed that first half TBF.

We created a bit and still look weak at CB/RB.
But it’s always subjective comparing a decent Championship team and the level we’ll be facing every week in L2.

Those who thought the appointment of Flynn would equal hoofball must be disappointed.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:16:30
Sam Pearson, son of Nigel.

Is he son of Nigel, can't find mention of that on interweb, only links seem to be that Pearson (N) brought him through at City?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:16:47
I hate myself for saying and thinking this but I like the Shitty shirt...  I am off to take a shower with some domestos..


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Mooneyraker on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:17:05
I really think RHM could kick on this year with a good end to last season and a pre season under his belt.

There is a player there and he is something a bit different at this level, as McKirdy was.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ides of March on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:17:47
I really think RHM could kick on this year with a good end to last season and a pre season under his belt.

There is a player there and he is something a bit different at this level, as McKirdy was.

He’s 24 now, so you’d hope he’d have a breakout season soon. Hopefully this is the one


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:17:51
What sort of quality is the City line up, are they first teamers or yoofs?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Riddick on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:18:14
Those who thought the appointment of Flynn would equal hoofball must be disappointed.

Yeah no sign of that at all is there.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ides of March on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:18:19
What sort of quality is the City line up, are they first teamers or yoofs?

First teamers for the most. Very strong side


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ides of March on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:19:39
Great ball from FBT and touch from Austin. Very good block from City defender. Their commentators have called us a “potential one to watch” in L2 based off this showing. Wonder what Swansea would say about that…


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:21:06
Great ball from FBT and touch from Austin. Very good block from City defender. Their commentators have called us a “potential one to watch” in L2 based off this showing. Wonder what Swansea would say about that…

FWIW Swansea beat Newport 5-0 in a BCD friendly today.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ides of March on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:21:42
FWIW Swansea beat Newport 5-0 in a BCD friendly today.

By all accounts, their fans are very positive about their chances this season. Swansea seemingly building a good side


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Lemis on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:27:45
Is he son of Nigel, can't find mention of that on interweb, only links seem to be that Pearson (N) brought him through at City?

Think it's just a coincidence that they share a surname,  a quick glance on wiki doesn't suggest any relation, nor does that Sam is from Cardiff, somewhere Nigel Pearson hasn't managed or played anywhere near


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:28:27
2-1 city


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:28:55
He isn't to blame for the 2nd but watch where brewitt goes on that 2nd


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:29:23
Overcommitted up front. No defensive cover.

Where have I seen that before?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Hyabb17 on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:31:45
Our ''defensive'' righthand side is a massive worry!!!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:33:06
losing 2-1 to City in 60 isn't a disaster, though it's a bit flattering to us given the post, crossbars and saves.  Some positives to take from that.

Now for essentially game 2


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: MangoRed on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:34:07
Goals fuck all to do with Hutton imo- he’s playing wing back- it’s Lavenier and Brewitt at centre half who look quite suspect.  Sam Bell a top player though

We’ve looked decent in parts I think. So obvious what we need- brick Shithouse centre halves, left wing back and a combative midfielder. Good goal from RHM and Austin. Pearson and Kemp look sharp. Mahoneys shot stopping been very good.


- Duncan Idehen and Seb Palmer playing for us this half


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Mooneyraker on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:34:38
I like the 'idea' of Lavinier at RCB. Not sure I'll like the reality!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Riddick on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:36:12
Goals fuck all to do with Hutton imo- he’s playing wing back- it’s Lavenier and Brewitt at centre half who look quite suspect.  Sam Bell a top player though

We’ve looked decent in parts I think. So obvious what we need- brick Shithouse centre halves, left wing back and a combative midfielder. Good goal from RHM and Austin. Pearson and Kemp look sharp. Mahoneys shot stopping been very good.



Very much agree. Brewitt/Lavs cant be there as the starting 11.

A proper Grant style midfielder to complement probably McEachran and Kemp as well.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:36:21
lavinier isn't a CB imo. I'll be a bit annoyed if we are really intending him to be.

But I think it's needs must for now


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Riddick on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:37:21
I like the 'idea' of Lavinier at RCB. Not sure I'll like the reality!

It could work, but not with Brewitt in there. You would want an older head to help him with positioning etc, and the before mentioned destroyer in midfield.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Hyabb17 on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:39:05
Did I spot Kadji in a town kit?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:39:32
Pleased that the focus is still on the passing game.
Crying out for that sitting midfielder that will cover and plug the gaps.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:40:08
I like the 'idea' of Lavinier at RCB. Not sure I'll like the reality!
This.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Lemis on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:41:26
Sprinklers delaying start of the next 60


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Mooneyraker on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:41:46
It could work, but not with Brewitt in there. You would want an older head to help him with positioning etc, and the before mentioned destroyer in midfield.

Brewitt can't be the middle defender. He likes to charge out too often. Might work as a RCB in a three. I think he's fine as a L2 squad player, as discussed ad nauseum, but he's not your main man. Still want to try him at DM.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:42:50
Good thing for me is it shows we have some quality and where we need to improve. Get those replacements and we are good


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Lemis on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:43:38
I'm sure it's a surprise to no one, but ward is the trialist GK in this half


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:46:31
Dworzak put a perfect cross in there for Charlie Austin...if he was still on the pitch! goal disallowed.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Robinz on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:48:23
Ward is not a quality GK.
One game at FGR a few years back Yes
But in my opinion surely there is better available


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Lemis on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:49:08
Omar Taylor-Clarke is another of the trialist according to the comms


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ides of March on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:49:14
Ward is not a quality GK.
One game at FGR a few years back Yes
But in my opinion surely there is better available

Wouldn’t want him as a starting keeper but a very capable back up imo


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:52:15
Omar Taylor-Clarke is another of the trialist according to the comms
Duncan Idehen is the tall back CB trialist, was on loan at Carlisle last season.

Ward is not a quality GK.
One game at FGR a few years back Yes
But in my opinion surely there is better available
I agree, I think there is much better free out there.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Mooneyraker on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:53:44
Ward is not a quality GK.
One game at FGR a few years back Yes
But in my opinion surely there is better available

I thought he was more than good enough in the 2022 run in.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ides of March on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:53:58
Good to see Wakeling play up top, feel he was wasted in the second half of last season when he was played out wide


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:54:19
Omar Taylor-Clarke is another of the trialist according to the comms

Come on, give him his full name.... Omar Rivaldo Taylor-Clarke


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Mooneyraker on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:55:32
Good to see Wakeling play up top, feel he was wasted in the second half of last season when he was played out wide

Or at wing back!!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:58:34
Good to see Wakeling play up top, feel he was wasted in the second half of last season when he was played out wide

Flynn really seems to be a breath of fresh air, modern thinking dynamic and innovative manager, who would have thought about playing players in their best positions.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:58:42
3-1 Ward nowhere to be seen.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ides of March on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 12:59:55
Flynn really seems to be a breath of fresh air, modern thinking dynamic and innovative manager, who would have thought about playing players in their best positions.

Jody Morris, take notes


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Lemis on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:00:51
Interesting that the comms have no issue mentioning the city youth trialists by name in this half, whereas I don't think they mentioned Sam Pearson by name once


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:03:39
Interesting that the comms have no issue mentioning the city youth trialists by name in this half, whereas I don't think they mentioned Sam Pearson by name once
No they didn't but the City forum all said it was him.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:04:58
Interesting that the comms have no issue mentioning the city youth trialists by name in this half, whereas I don't think they mentioned Sam Pearson by name once

I think that comms mentioned that the City youngsters were just making up the numbers to help us out.
Implication being that they aren't necessarily targets for us.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:05:55
Sprinklers delaying start of the next 60

I thought it was 45/45/30. Is it 60/60?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Lemis on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:07:12
I thought it was 45/45/30. Is it 60/60?

Think it's 45/15/45/15


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:08:33
Think it's 45/15/45/15
This.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ides of March on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:09:48
This second ‘half’ is a bit of a pointless exercise for us. 5 of the side are Bristol City youngsters who are seemingly just here to make up the numbers, wouldn’t Cain, Shade, Wakeling etc have benefitted more from playing a full game at Hereford?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:10:14
4-1 to city now.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Riddick on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:10:25
Difficult with City players making up the numbers, and Clayton not with standing, this second half really shows how little quality outside a first eleven we have, and just how much work needs to be done to strengthen that 23 Flynn wants.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:10:52
I thought it was 45/45/30. Is it 60/60?

Club said on SM at kick off that it was 45/45/30


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:11:09
Good to see Wakeling play up top, feel he was wasted in the second half of last season when he was played out wide

not watching today but that was always my thoughts on him playing wide. total waste.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:11:27
This second ‘half’ is a bit of a pointless exercise for us. 5 of the side are Bristol City youngsters who are seemingly just here to make up the numbers, wouldn’t Cain, Shade, Wakeling etc have benefitted more from playing a full game at Hereford?
It is implied that we have the pick of any of the trialists on show today for loans (2 maximum) so I guess its to see how they play in our line up.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:12:09
Club said on SM at kick off that it was 45/45/30
Its definately 45/15/45/15


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:12:47
5-1 to City, shit defending, not great keeping either.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ides of March on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:13:03
Probably being far too harsh considering it’s a one on one, but that looked some suspect positioning from Ward in that situation. Near post was gaping


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:13:36
I know it's only preseason but we seem to go to shit in part 2.
Hope it's not a marker for the season ahead.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Lemis on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:13:48
Shade with a sloppy pass gifting Bristol City their 5th


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:15:01
The little number 23 Omar Taylor-Clarke? looks handy, a much better player for his age than Kadji.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:15:03
Goal 5 was a Shade masterclass.  City's Conway looks like a decent player.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Mooneyraker on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:15:23
I know it's only preseason but we seem to go to shit in part 2.
Hope it's not a marker for the season ahead.

Suspect it is more an indicator that we can just about scrape a workable XI together with fuck all behind that.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:15:23
Probably being far too harsh considering it’s a one on one, but that looked some suspect positioning from Ward in that situation. Near post was gaping
I thought the same.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:15:28
Think it's 45/15/45/15

Well thats certainly unconventional.

Have we kept any first teamers back from this game for Hereford later? Or any senior players at all?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:16:32
Well thats certainly unconventional.

Have we kept any first teamers back from this game for Hereford later? Or any senior players at all?
Every fit 1st teamer has played some part that I can see, Dworzak and Minturn have played a fair length.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:17:11
Well thats certainly unconventional.

Have we kept any first teamers back from this game for Hereford later? Or any senior players at all?

Aguiar and Adeloye. I presume Brann in nets.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:18:36
Aguiar and Adeloye. I presume Brann in nets.
Yeah I forgot those.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: adje on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:18:56
Once again at "full strength" we hold a championship side to a 1 goal deficit. No cause for great alarm


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:19:43
I think given this was our second half line-up;

Ward (Trialist B), Trialist C, Trialist D, Cain, Darcy, Trialist E, Wakeling, Dworzak, Trialist F, Shade, Minturn.

SUBS: Trialist G, Trialist H.

It's tough to really judge whether we still go through the old wobbles in the final stages of games. I guess the next couple of games are when we actually give the actual first XI and subs more of the game rather than the messing about in second halves we've done at Swansea and Bristol.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:20:29
I know its hard to judge being a friendly and disjointed line up, also every player only getting an hour at most but for me not one of the players that came on after 60 mins would be near our first 60 minute team. Not one.

6-1


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Lemis on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:20:33
6-1 now


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ides of March on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:20:55
Fallen apart here, but with 5 of these Bristol City youngsters and one being Ward as the trialist, can’t take too much out of this


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:22:00
The timer on the stream doesn't go beyond 90 then.

Time has stood still.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:22:53
Once again at "full strength" we hold a championship side to a 1 goal deficit. No cause for great alarm
Very much this, for the first 10 mins we pressed them and outplayed them, we looked decent in attack but defensively we have the same frailties, E.G. Brewitt, Lavinier and Hutton. Khan was a little lost and is not a natural DMC who can break up play.

Lavinier is a better fullback than CB, Brewitt is decent back up but I do not want to rely on him, Hutton still struggles with defensive duties.

For me Ward looks weak too, sould have done better with a couple of the goals IMO, might be harsh but there are better backup keepers out there free.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:23:23
Ward looks like a newborn Giraffe with the ball at his feet


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:24:20
I know its hard to judge being a friendly and disjointed line up, also every player only getting an hour at most but for me not one of the players that came on after 60 mins would be near our first 60 minute team. Not one.

6-1

Which would be a worry in a couple of weeks, because the chances of going a season and only using 11 players is somewhere near 0.01%.  We used over 40 last season - which goes to show we signed a whole bunch of pointless shit, we just have some of them left.

Assuming we bring in another 5 or so, then we could look very different.

Last season we got more points than our play deserved under Lindsey and got less than we should have achieved with the squad under Morris.  Even if we assume Flynn improves us, we still look a mid table bet at best right now, with the huge asset of Austin.  Hope he gets the freedom to unlock that by adding those 5 players we desperately need.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:26:24
Very much this, for the first 10 mins we pressed them and outplayed them, we looked decent in attack but defensively we have the same frailties, E.G. Brewitt, Lavinier and Hutton. Khan was a little lost and is not a natural DMC who can break up play.

Lavinier is a better fullback than CB, Brewitt is decent back up but I do not want to rely on him, Hutton still struggles with defensive duties.

For me Ward looks weak too, sould have done better with a couple of the goals IMO, might be harsh but there are better backup keepers out there free.

Khan does not have the positional discipline to play the defensive role - he wants to drive and be on the ball.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:26:52
End of the 45, 15 to go.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:27:44
Khan does not have the positional discipline to play the defensive role - he wants to drive and be on the ball.
Khan half the time impresses me and half the time he looks awkward and ill disciplined.

The jury is very much still out on him for me.

But a DMC he is not.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:28:27
His passing is so bad


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:29:31
His passing is so bad

He has played at the level he has for a reason.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:31:43
I was going to suggest that Conway might be worth looking at for a loan but he appears to be very much part of the City first team squad! It just shows how deep the Championship sides squads are with both Swansea and City able to field 2 very good sides in both halves of football.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:33:26
I had hoped that Cain, Shade, Darcy, Wakeling and Ward would have looked a bit better against such a very young Shitty side.

Unfortunately none have looked good enough so far, even against the U21s, disappointing.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Riddick on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:35:24
I had hoped that Cain, Shade, Darcy, Wakeling and Ward would have looked a bit better against such a very young Shitty side.

Unfortunately none have looked good enough so far, even against the U21s, disappointing.

Yep. Tough up front for Wakeling with no service. Shade has done nothing (for us), Cain and Darcy done nothing in midfield.

As i said a few posts above, the squad is so short of where it needs to be to push for promotion.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:35:28
Conway gets the 7th.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Lemis on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:35:36
7-1 now


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:37:30
Yep. Tough up front for Wakeling with no service. Shade has done nothing (for us), Cain and Darcy done nothing in midfield.

As i said a few posts above, the squad is so short of where it needs to be to push for promotion.

Might be too short for a mid-table push


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:38:50
Might be too short for a mid-table push

In a very literal sense


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Riddick on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:39:32
I dont disagree. Even todays first 11 has some obvious gaps in across defence.

Long way to go still etc, but at the moment i would put us between 12th and 18th for next season. This is based on what we have right now.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: JoeMezz on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:41:33
Can’t read too much into a pummelling of a load of Bristol City youngsters sprinkled with first team players. 2-1 with strongest XI is a good effort


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: LucienSanchez on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:44:10
Even in these meaningless games, it highlights how poor we are defensively. Brewitt was completely without a team for a reason - he’s not good. Even considering him as a backup is generous.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:46:16
2-1 with strongest XI is a good effort
We matched them and competed all over the pitch against their strongest team, we did very well IMO.

We can all see, and Flynn can too, that we need 2 (right sided probably) CB's, a LWB and a defensive minded DMC who can tackle and break up play.  Hutton and Lavinier can both challenge for the RWB role.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Pericardinho on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:47:08
Our defensive line includes 2x Bristol City under 21's, Dworzak out of position and Minturn. No wonder we're getting hammered. Got to take the positives of the first half.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:48:51
Our defensive line includes 2x Bristol City under 21's, Dworzak out of position and Minturn. No wonder we're getting hammered. Got to take the positives of the first half.
I think the result since the end of the 1st hour can be ignored, mor eimportant is the performances of our "fringe" players, and TBH they have all been pretty shit.

The 1st team game though we fairly impressive for me.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Lemis on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:49:07
Wakeling has had a few decent moments this half.

Game finally over


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:50:12
Wakeling has had a few decent moments this half.

Game finally over
He ran around and looked lively but ultimately did nothing with the end product when he should have done better.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:51:44
Can’t read too much into a pummelling of a load of Bristol City youngsters sprinkled with first team players. 2-1 with strongest XI is a good effort

This is it, looking at it the team for the last bit barely know each other, yes the City players may know each others but in the main as a whole they won't have a fucking clue.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:52:42
I think the result since the end of the 1st hour can be ignored, mor eimportant is the performances of our "fringe" players, and TBH they have all been pretty shit.

The 1st team game though we fairly impressive for me.

It can be ignored to an extent, but there are players in that group that we not just have in our squad, we have used them, regularly, in the past year.  Most teams will use over 20 players in a season, we can expect that these players will actually need to be relied upon.  What it does show, and last season gave us plenty of evidence of this, they are not players to rely on.  Add five more, first teamers, and the problem becomes much less evident, start the season as we are and we will be in trouble as we will find ourselves using them.

Still comfortable we will do what we need to do, but it is getting tight.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Lemis on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:53:30
He ran around and looked lively but ultimately did nothing with the end product when he should have done better.

Absolutely, end product is missing atm. Have only caught highlights of other matches but looks like his finishing has been below par this preseason. Hopefully he can grab one before the season starts to give him a bit of confidence


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:54:34
Absolutely, end product is missing atm. Have only caught highlights of other matches but looks like his finishing has been below par this preseason. Hopefully he can grab one before the season starts to give him a bit of confidence

I worry we ruined him last year.  It should have been a key season in his development.  His early form showed there was something to work with and develop, but we then over used him and moved him around all over the place.  We Iandolo'd him.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Mooneyraker on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:57:07
I worry we ruined him last year.  It should have been a key season in his development.  His early form showed there was something to work with and develop, but we then over used him and moved him around all over the place.  We Iandolo'd him.

soapy tit wank


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 13:57:19
This is it, looking at it the team for the last bit barely know each other, yes the City players may know each others but in the main as a whole they won't have a fucking clue.
TBH I havent seen a single poster argue with that. The 2nd 60 mins was pretty pointless in the great scheme of things.

I just wish our experienced players could have actually looked like players against basically an U21 side. They didn't.

Ward did not impress me, Cain looked lost and his passing poor, Darcy looked disinterested. Shade, was he even on the pitch? Wakeling looked eager to run but had zero service so could not affect the game, that said he did miss 2 great chances.

The City lads and our own youngsters were there to make the numbers up, the game was pointless after the massive amount of changes.



Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ides of March on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 14:01:40
Really positive first 60 minutes. More than matched a strong City side. We looked strong going forwards, RHM and Austin linked up well. Defensively we looked a touch nervous and shaky but for the most part, positive signs.

The last 60, made up of predominantly City youngsters, we were poor. Ward didn’t look up to it, and those City youngsters did not impress at all. Can’t take too much from the last 60. Would’ve been nice for Wakeling to get on the score sheet


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 14:04:46
TBH I havent seen a single poster argue with that. The 2nd 60 mins was pretty pointless in the great scheme of things.

I just wish our experienced players could have actually looked like players against basically an U21 side. They didn't.

Ward did not impress me, Cain looked lost and his passing poor, Darcy looked disinterested. Shade, was he even on the pitch? Wakeling looked eager to run but had zero service so could not affect the game, that said he did miss 2 great chances.

The City lads and our own youngsters were there to make the numbers up, the game was pointless after the massive amount of changes.



I wonder if the players that played in the second half today might also have a bit of a run out at Hereford tonight? Might be a good way of testing them when they are 'fatigued' (apologies, that's as tiresome as the 'Trialist family' thing in football)


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 14:06:48
I wonder if the players that played in the second half today might also have a bit of a run out at Hereford tonight?
I hope so, none of them looked good enough for a starting slot, not 1.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 14:27:48
Ward did not impress me, Cain looked lost and his passing poor, Darcy looked disinterested. Shade, was he even on the pitch? Wakeling looked eager to run but had zero service so could not affect the game, that said he did miss 2 great chances.


That's basically the conclusions reached regarding all of those last season.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Riddick on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 14:37:53

Ward did not impress me, Cain looked lost and his passing poor, Darcy looked disinterested. Shade, was he even on the pitch?

I think Darcy is a lost cause honestly. I think Aguiar has more about him than Darcy does.

But yeah when they are all put together its a problem, for a game or two you can have them cover gaps in the first team. That is about it.

Still with the contracts handed out by SDM the hope has to be over the next 12 months we can replace them with a better standard of squad player.



Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Lemis on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 14:40:19
Shade, was he even on the pitch?

Of course he was, he got the assist for City's 5th  :wink:


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 14:43:33
I wonder if the players that played in the second half today might also have a bit of a run out at Hereford tonight? Might be a good way of testing them when they are 'fatigued' (apologies, that's as tiresome as the 'Trialist family' thing in football)

Might be a chance of giving them a run out with some experience on the pitch, looking at the post 60 mins line up it was literally Swindon kids and BC kids.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1UeBp_X0AA3GOF?format=jpg&name=small)


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 14:55:47
Of course he was, he got the assist for City's 5th  :wink:
True :)


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Posh Red on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 14:59:18
I think Darcy is a lost cause honestly. I think Aguiar has more about him than Darcy does.

I get the feeling that Flynn has told Darcy he’s not in his plans and is free to go.

You’d think he would then work his nuts off to prove him wrong 🤷🏼‍♂️


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 15:06:28
You’d think he would then work his nuts off to prove him wrong 🤷🏼‍♂️
You and me would think that, Darcy looks like he has a differing opinion!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Riddick on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 15:08:36
You and me would think that, Darcy looks like he has a differing opinion!

I'm assuming the ones sent to Hereford are the ones to move on, Aguiar and Adeloye. I had hoped that would be Darcy as well.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nijholts Nuts on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 15:09:04
You and me would think that, Darcy looks like he has a differing opinion!
Maybe he's working his nuts and he's still shit?!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 15:16:17
Maybe he's working his nuts and he's still shit?!
Judging by his body language and his flailing arms in frustration at other players and his own passes I would suggest he didn't want to be there today.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 15:17:25
For very different reasons, I can see why Darcy gets persisted with alongside Shade.

Shade has the look of a player who was a physical specimen when younger, so probably bullied his way through youth level football and shone.  As the others catch-up and the pool around you begins to shrink to equally good players, you find a player who seemingly never had to learn the tactical side of a game - he lacks, or seems to, a footballing brain.

Darcy on the other hand is the opposite.  A player who probably appeared to have all the technical abilities when younger and probably, to this day, looks good in training.  When the pressure is off, when there is freedom to play, he probably looks quite good.  He just looks utterly lost in the cut and thrust of an actual game, especially when a team has a bit of an upper hand against us.  Reed looked exactly the same for his first game, but he clearly had some feet to find, whereas Darcy has looked exactly the same all season.  Flickers of talent when pressure is off or he has fallen into space, but completely lacking any impact for 90% of the game.  A very poor mans Payne, who at least had the appetite and nigglyness to get stuck in and try and be involved.  Darcy is like a fan stuck in the middle, watching it all go on around him.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Mooneyraker on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 15:37:29
soapy tit wank

Does this forum change 'Laugh out loud' to this? I didn't write that!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Trashbat? on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 15:40:16
Does this forum change 'Laugh out loud' to this? I didn't write that!

No, it just knows your inner most desires :)


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 16:02:22
you have to be fair to those that came on at 60 minutes, they didn't have a lot around them.

Very difficult to judge their performance in those circumstances.

Admittedly you'd hope they'd stand out more


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 16:33:29
I would rather we play teams which resembles league 2 to prepare for the coming season.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 16:41:28
Does this forum change 'Laugh out loud' to this? I didn't write that!

dirty bastard Mooney!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 16:44:59
Of course he was, he got the assist for City's 5th  :wink:

I might be in the minority for this, but whilst Shade's pass to Minturn was absolutely horrific, Minturn's reaction wasn't exactly the height of professionalism. He basically stopped and made a gesture as if to say 'what the fuck was that'. He eventually did run back and try and put the striker off, but by then he'd put the ball into the net.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 16:52:42
you have to be fair to those that came on at 60 minutes, they didn't have a lot around them.

Very difficult to judge their performance in those circumstances.

Admittedly you'd hope they'd stand out more

Pitting some of our fringe players with a group of strangers to play against what is a pretty strong City side in that second game does seem unusual. Would it have been more beneficial to hold them back and play against Hereford tonight? (they still might)

I dunno, it is what it is, but it didn't sound like there was a lot to be gained from that second game, apart from Ward practicing collecting the ball out of the back of the net. That said, the first game did sound like there were lots of positives to take away.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 17:32:21
I think tbh it was done just so we could play tonight as well


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 18:05:01
I would rather we play teams which resembles league 2 to prepare for the coming season.

You don't play teams in your own league in preseason, so you inevitably end up with a mix of non league and championship. Maybe a random team from abroad who are over here thrown in.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 18:10:51
Flynn out.
Disgraceful results.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 18:22:01
You don't play teams in your own league in preseason, so you inevitably end up with a mix of non league and championship. Maybe a random team from abroad who are over here thrown in.

I didn't mean league 2 maybe a league one club or top national league similar to what we will be playing this season. I agree playing a team from abroad at home may have been a good option.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 18:23:31
Flynn out.
Disgraceful results.

Any consolation Newport were also beat 5-0 by Swansea so we're on par with them😀


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 18:36:25
not that it matters, 1-0 Hereford


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 18:37:31
Are we actually benefiting from these pre season games?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 18:39:43
well we had the first team playing together for 60 earlier in Flynn's style

l the youths need fitness too


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 18:41:34
I would rather 90 mins to maximise fitness😀


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 18:43:40
Have our fans always been this negative with regards to friendly results? Or is this a new thing for 2023?
It’s fucking mental.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 18:44:01
Are we actually benefiting from these pre season games?
Nah no ones got a clue whats they are doing and Flynns winging it. Those 60 minutes earlier were pointless


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 18:45:09
Have our fans always been this negative with regards to friendly results? Or is this a new thing for 2023?
It’s fucking mental.
I have been saying for a while our fans genuinely have got worse but keep getting shot down. Every single post is either a snide shitty comment or having a go at something


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 18:45:38
Have our fans always been this negative with regards to friendly results? Or is this a new thing for 2023?
It’s fucking mental.

It’s always been a results business & Flynn just isn’t getting the job done !!!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 18:47:10
Quote from: DMC
I have been saying for a while our fans genuinely have got worse but keep getting shot down. Every single post is either a snide shitty comment or having a go at something

I do think the moaning has got worse.

I just don't think it's worse than other clubs in similar circumstances


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 18:47:15
…in all seriousness though - pre season results have & always will be highly contextual…


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ides of March on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 18:49:09
I’m usually very pessimistic but in the 60 minutes of what was really Bristol City’s starting XI vs our equivalent, we more than held our own. Yes, we weren’t perfect and still had some defensive issues but it was obvious to see some real promise in there. The other 60 was a mix of City youngsters, our fringe players and Ward. Not a lot to be gained/learnt from that.

This Hereford friendly meanwhile, meh. No first team players involved so pretty irrelevant.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 18:52:39
I mean, today's "game" wasn't even one, not really.  It was a high pressured training session, the result of which is secondary to seeing who can take what they have learned on the training pitch into a game situation, where do we have issues that still need work, where are we missing players who can do what the Manager wants etc.

Friendlies are pointless - in a literal league campaign sense, but very important for a Manager and for players to get minutes into their legs under strain rather than the well planned training sessions they'll have been getting.

The only downside I can see is we haven't really played any up and at em types as yet.  We know we have some players that can attack well, play the ball about, and no doubt a team like Bristol City will have tested our defensive shape to the extreme.  However, we probably don't yet know how we'd fare against a Sutton.  We know, having watched all of last season, we seem very frail under the high ball and next to useless at our own set pieces.  Would be good to have had a test like that.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 18:52:58
Trialist A from tonight

https://twitter.com/stfcjosh/status/1681363720792842240?t=TUFVVkIFClibQROX0H0H9g&s=19


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 18:54:00
I've no problem with getting beat in friendlies but do question the opposition of the last two games and what we've gained from them even more so today when part of the line up was made up with a few Bristol City youngsters.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 18:55:50
I've no problem with getting beat in friendlies but do question the opposition of the last two games and what we've gained from them even more so today when part of the line up was made up with a few Bristol City youngsters.

We've seen how we might get undone by a team higher up the league, that plays good football.  Nobody should be better than City, so we know the worst.  We also know whether or not we can create opportunities against a better defence than we will see this season.  A stress test if you like.  It confirmed a lot of what most us already know, but Flynn only got to see last season on video I imagine, not how the entire 11 is moving and reacting.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 18:56:14
Quote from: Batch
Trialist A from tonight

https://twitter.com/stfcjosh/status/1681363720792842240?t=TUFVVkIFClibQROX0H0H9g&s=19 (https://twitter.com/stfcjosh/status/1681363720792842240?t=TUFVVkIFClibQROX0H0H9g&s=19)

a man named Mo apparently


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Frigby Daser on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 18:58:57
It would help if some of our games weren’t publicised at all, or at least publicised as a Swindon XI, rather than the first team. But, it seems the way now that you get full comms and live streams of matches that previously we’d never have known about years ago.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: adje on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 18:59:18
a man named Mo apparently
The fifth one we've had?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 19:05:28
a man named Mo apparently
Thought it was Fankwe


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 19:05:58
We've seen how we might get undone by a team higher up the league, that plays good football.  Nobody should be better than City, so we know the worst.  We also know whether or not we can create opportunities against a better defence than we will see this season.  A stress test if you like.  It confirmed a lot of what most us already know, but Flynn only got to see last season on video I imagine, not how the entire 11 is moving and reacting.

I imagine it was great to play at their state of the art training ground.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Lemis on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 19:06:46
Are we actually benefiting from these pre season games?

Arguably, first half of the city game was a good exercise for the first team against decent opposition, and the second half could be seen as a bit of scouting


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 19:20:29
Nah no ones got a clue whats they are doing and Flynns winging it. Those 60 minutes earlier were pointless

I can see the logic in wanting a proper look at some of the potential youth signings, but it rendered some of our lads involvement in it pointless. Should have just had a normal friendly and stuck around to watch the youths and reserves of city that didn't play have a game after or something. The likes of Cain and Darcy could have started against Hereford tonight then.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 19:21:58
Mo Sylla (villa) could be Trialists


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 19:25:34
Mo Sylla (villa) could be Trialists

Based on that picture from the weekend, it certainly looks more like him than Fankwe to be honest.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 19:26:36
credit to Josh on Twitter


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 19:28:35
credit to Josh on Twitter

Great detective skills!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 19:34:04
Quote from: Bob's Orange
Quote
credit to Josh on Twitter
Great detective skills!

if it is him it's another punt on someone who has lost their way.

saw too many of those last year

but he's in the Hereford squad, but the City squad of you get my drift


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 19:35:15
I assume Flynn is at this one.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 19:36:55
The Villa one:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mamadou_Sylla_(footballer,_born_2003)

Still young and at Villa.

quick googling returns one at Hartlepool called Mo Sylla who is a lot older

The picture posted would be the Villa one.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 19:36:56
apparently he is


Title: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 19:38:18
Quote
The Villa one:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mamadou_Sylla_(footballer,_born_2003 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mamadou_Sylla_(footballer,_born_2003))

Still young and at Villa.

quick googling returns one at Hartlepool called Mo Sylla who is a lot older
I'm not sure he is?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/confirmed-aston-villa-sanction-permanent-21380844.amp (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/confirmed-aston-villa-sanction-permanent-21380844.amp)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mamadou_Sylla_(footballer,_born_2003)


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 19:39:54
Yep, ignore me, I misread the history as going to Almeria on loan.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 19:40:35
I did too the first time!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 19:41:05
It's this kid I think.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mamadou_Sylla_(footballer,_born_2003)

At Almeria B

Edit - Batch beat me to it, sorry for duplications.



Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 19:46:57
These are the kind of games Adeloye really needs to try and impress but i think he just doesn't have it does he


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: molepar on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 19:54:03
These are the kind of games Adeloye really needs to try and impress but i think he just doesn't have it does he
He hasn’t shown it so far if he does has it.

Anyone from the TEF make the trip for this? Bit disappointing for the fans that this one and the Corsham one are very much B team fixtures.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 20:04:54
from Twitter tweeting it seems very few STFC bothered at all


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 20:08:56
I did read it was £14 a ticket not sure how true that was.


Title: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 20:13:08
Quote
I did read it was £14 a ticket not sure how true that was.
I saw that somewhere too. possible given the pricing v villa u21

https://herefordfc.ticketco.events/uk/en/m/e/aston_villa_u23s

lost 2-0. no idea how Aguiar and Adeloye played


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 20:15:10
I saw that somewhere too.

lost 2-0. no idea how Aguiar and Adeloye played

Cheers Batch had no idea how the game went


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 20:16:33
@stfcjosh

Fox Brown and Sylla decent

Rest looked meh not much else to say in truth, can’t see Adeloye staying much longer.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 20:29:12
I have been saying for a while our fans genuinely have got worse but keep getting shot down. Every single post is either a snide shitty comment or having a go at something
I suspect our fans ARE getting worse, perhaps it's a symptom of our age where people whip each other into a frenzy of self perpetuating fuckwhittery on social media. BUT... this is the point I've tried to make previously....if any of us were to study the forums or social media accounts of the other 91 clubs, if we didn't kill ourselves first we would conclude that our fuckwhits are no worse than any other clubs' fuckwhits... and indeed, other clubs may have even more/worse fuckwhits than us (more than likely they are the fans of clubs WAY further up the food chain than we are)

All of this is purely anicdotal, it's just what I believe to be true and there's no way for it to be proved or disproved...


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 20:33:18
There is also the option that one of our worst ever seasons in the bottom Division of Four causes people to get a little disgruntled?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 20:37:17
There is also another option, the things people post are not the thoughts they carry around all day.  They are a moment, and usually in those moments people post their most extreme views rather than things they couldn't give a fuck about - good or bad.  I am an annoyingly positive/optimistic person (according to my wife), but I'll vent on here when thoughts of STFC's current situation pass my mind.

I can't think of a season where I thought we were going to be shit and didn't believe, just a little bit, that it would all work out and we'd walk the thing (maybe not in 1993).  Even now, I have faith it will all be OK, that someone I think is shit will turn good, that we will sign what we need and everyone else will be terrible anyway.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 20:37:48
There is also the option that one of our worst ever seasons in the bottom Division of Four causes people to get a little disgruntled?
Certainly doesn't help...


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: UTR on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 20:44:43
There is also another option, the things people post are not the thoughts they carry around all day.  They are a moment, and usually in those moments people post their most extreme views rather than things they couldn't give a fuck about - good or bad.  I am an annoyingly positive/optimistic person (according to my wife), but I'll vent on here when thoughts of STFC's current situation pass my mind.

I can't think of a season where I thought we were going to be shit and didn't believe, just a little bit, that it would all work out and we'd walk the thing (maybe not in 1993).  Even now, I have faith it will all be OK, that someone I think is shit will turn good, that we will sign what we need and everyone else will be terrible anyway.

I considered this for a bit. Although everyone just seems negative at the minute (me included). I have a pretty broad range of circles of Swindon fans that I talk to regularly and every single one of them is feeling negative at the moment and these circles include some usually over the top optimistic fans. Some have been ST holders for years and have chosen to postpone getting one this year to see how our transfer business goes first, although the economic situation probably plays into that largely as well.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 20:53:47
In some ways I'm less negative this season than I was last. Always felt that Lindsey was utterly clueless last season just based on the shite he spoke in interviews. It was red flags galore.

Most of this years negativity stems from a hangover of last years recruitment lumbering us with a partially shite squad and the the in ability to get quality in.

I have quiet optimism for Flynn as our manager.

Off the pitch, we just don't seem organised and we seem to be getting worse.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: molepar on Tuesday, July 18, 2023, 21:04:24
In some ways I'm less negative this season than I was last. Always felt that Lindsey was utterly clueless last season just based on the shite he spoke in interviews. It was red flags galore.

Most of this years negativity stems from a hangover of last years recruitment lumbering us with a partially shite squad and the the in ability to get quality in.

I have quiet optimism for Flynn as our manager.

Off the pitch, we just don't seem organised and we seem to be getting worse.
How do you think we are worse off the pitch? Not disagreeing but just curious.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Wednesday, July 19, 2023, 05:56:08
Oh dear!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DK6HYXDFyZY


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Wednesday, July 19, 2023, 06:31:25
I suspect our fans ARE getting worse, perhaps it's a symptom of our age where people whip each other into a frenzy of self perpetuating fuckwhittery on social media. BUT... this is the point I've tried to make previously....if any of us were to study the forums or social media accounts of the other 91 clubs, if we didn't kill ourselves first we would conclude that our fuckwhits are no worse than any other clubs' fuckwhits... and indeed, other clubs may have even more/worse fuckwhits than us (more than likely they are the fans of clubs WAY further up the food chain than we are)

All of this is purely anicdotal, it's just what I believe to be true and there's no way for it to be proved or disproved...
If you go on to the 3 or 4 top blogs and football league pages online they will openly tell you our fans are the biggest lunatics on social media


Title: Re: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Benzel on Wednesday, July 19, 2023, 06:50:51
If you go on to the 3 or 4 top blogs and football league pages online they will openly tell you our fans are the biggest lunatics on social media
Can totally believe it, that's why all Whelan's clickbait titles have 'former Swindon player' in it even when it's nothing to do with us.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nijholts Nuts on Wednesday, July 19, 2023, 07:10:09
Oh dear!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DK6HYXDFyZY

Wasn't Ward's finest hour


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Mooneyraker on Wednesday, July 19, 2023, 08:16:59
I honestly think that the denouement of the Power era turned everyone a bit mad. You have the people who saw it coming and the people who failed to see it coming and both sets are irredeemably damaged by the whole sordid saga, particularly as we had a chance at greatness dashed by Black pulling the plug just prior to make the whole thing seem even worse.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: ThreeDrawsMentality on Wednesday, July 19, 2023, 10:18:53
If you go on to the 3 or 4 top blogs and football league pages online they will openly tell you our fans are the biggest lunatics on social media
Noticed one of our content providers have gone full Arsenal Fan TV mode too which is just adding to this observation.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: ThreeDrawsMentality on Wednesday, July 19, 2023, 10:21:24
Completely the wrong thread for this, but it's where most of this kind of chat is happening. Came across a voting thread this morning of what would you prefer Swindon being: Community ran team or billionaires play toy, and felt quite surprised that results of the vote so far were 60% community and 40% for billionaire.

Can't help but feel that some of those who voted for community ran are also those bemoaning lack of investment in the team and infrastructure.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Mooneyraker on Wednesday, July 19, 2023, 10:29:18
I think that’s because we are currently being run as neither.

A “rich” (not that rich) owner who has promised all the usual guff, Championship aspirations, stadium development, promotion budgets etc, yet in reality is running it like a volunteer backed community club without a pot to piss in. He set expectations, including “I’m not Lee Power” before surrounding himself with that individual’s former acolytes, and has systematically failed to meet them.

I’d be much happier being a genuine, honest, drugs-money-launderer-free community run club with limited aspirations past a nice day out and a passable team.



Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, July 19, 2023, 10:33:52
Noticed one of our content providers have gone full Arsenal Fan TV mode too which is just adding to this observation.

Is that Fools Rush in? I wonder if that's either 'parody' or doing it for the clicks.


Title: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, July 19, 2023, 10:35:25
Quote
I honestly think that the denouement of the Power era turned everyone a bit mad. You have the people who saw it coming and the people who failed to see it coming and both sets are irredeemably damaged by the whole sordid saga, particularly as we had a chance at greatness dashed by Black pulling the plug just prior to make the whole thing seem even worse.
I'll happily admit (and it'll be obvious) that my mindset is damaged and the default is "waiting for the inevitable to happen" - i.e. it all to go wrong.

it's definitely the wrong way to think, but I can't help it. I've been conditioned over the years.

I don't think I'm alone.

I hoped Clem would be a reset, but it hasn't. Having people formerly of dubious character around really hasn't helped though that may have changed.

in short as a fan base I think we need some success and stability and something to believe in. Clem may provide that in time, but as is the modern way patience is short


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Mooneyraker on Wednesday, July 19, 2023, 10:38:33
Yup. I’m that guy too. Will always cheer the team on the pitch but when it comes to the club I’m just waiting for disaster, which isn’t helpful.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 19, 2023, 10:41:04
In the City friendly, the first 60 mins of our actual first team yesterday we matched City almost player for player, only being 2-1 down at the change. We pressed high and looked threatening in attack, Charlie and RHM linked up well, Charlie kept trying to get Hutton involved but Huttons deliveries were poor.

Khan was usual Khan, half he did very well and half he was awful and gave the ball away cheaply.

McEachran looked eager and passed well and had a decent game.

Kemp didnt get massively involved but he hit a few great through passes to RHM and the LWB trialist but had one shot and it was very high from distance. Promising.

Mahoney looked a decent stopper, made 2 superb saves to stop definate goals, his kicking is not that great and he doesnt command his area much, looks on a par with Brynn to me.

Brewitt looked poor, constantly gave the ball away and made mistakes at the back, but going forwards he made a few good passes.

Lavinier looked decent on the ball but like Hutton defending is not his strong point and looked lost at CB at times caught way out of position defensively.

Hutton, see Lavinier! decent going forwards even though his crosses were poor but very poor defensively.

LWB trialist (Pearson I believe) for me he looked eager and can tackle and run, would be better if he was a left footer but I didnt think he looked too bad even if some posters disagree.

Charlie sat around the box and made a few good passes setting up RHM and Hutton a few times, can still pick out a pass but had little service, great 1-2 to set up RHM's goal.

RHM looked fast, skillfull and very eager to run, was probably my MotM.

The subs that came on.

Ward, looked lost and although not at fault for the goals I think he should have done better with several of them.

Shade, his only contribution was gifting them a goal, otherwise he was not involved despite playing against a much younger team.

Darcy, lots of poor passes and moaning, didnt have any impact on the game.

Cain, see Darcy.

Wakeling, he wanted the ball but rarely got it, when he did have it he created a few problems but his finishing wa spoor with him missing 2 very good chances.

Dworzak, put in a couple of very good crosses that would have been ideal for Austin but otherwise didnt contribute too much.

Minturn looks like he has bulked up a bit and was decent on the ball but still like Brewitt makes a couple of silly mistakes that often are capitalised on, he was caught in possession a few times and a loan would do him the world of good IMO.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, July 19, 2023, 10:45:37
I think the Eastleigh and the Plymouth friendly are the ones where we see our starting XI get proper minutes in the tank. They've had 45 minutes against Swansea and 60 against Bristol City and now I think Flynn will look to get minutes into the first XI and subs. Given the injuries to Clayton and Devine, I think we need to get the defensive recruits in before Eastleigh ideally to give them 2 pre-season games to get up to speed.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 19, 2023, 10:45:38
These are the kind of games Adeloye really needs to try and impress but i think he just doesn't have it does he
I hoped against a non league side he would come good and grab a few goals, also Aguiar should be controlling these games but he isnt either.

I would happily get rid of Adeloye and Aguiar, and I think Flynn is of the same opinion, I think Darcy and Shade both looked near useless yesterday against young opponents when they should be trying hard to impress Flynn. Cain, he had little support in the middle but again a lot of his passing was wayward when he should be dominating against a side with only about 10 1st team games between them (other than Conway who was head and shoulders the best player on the pitch for the last hour).


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, July 19, 2023, 10:49:08
I hoped against a non league side he would come good and grab a few goals, also Aguiar should be controlling these games but he isnt either.

I would happily get rid of Adeloye and Aguiar, and I think Flynn is of the same opinion, I think Darcy and Shade both looked near useless yesterday against young opponents when they should be trying hard to impress Flynn. Cain, he had little support in the middle but again a lot of his passing was wayward when he should be dominating against a side with only about 10 1st team games between them (other than Conway who was head and shoulders the best player on the pitch for the last hour).

To be fair I don't really think you can expect Aguiar and Adeloye to do a lot in a predominantly very young Swindon side against a NLN side. I imagine even Charlie would struggle in a team surrounded by kids. Can we read into the fact they were given the trip to Hereford with the kids that they are now in the bomb squad?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 19, 2023, 10:51:28
To be fair I don't really think you can expect Aguiar and Adeloye to do a lot in a predominantly very young Swindon side against a NLN side. I imagine even Charlie would struggle in a team surrounded by kids. Can we read into the fact they were given the trip to Hereford with the kids that they are now in the bomb squad?
By that I dont mean that they will win the game on their own, I just mean they should at least show glimpses of quality and look decent, apparently at Hereford they both looked lost and disinterested all game from what I have been told. They should be putting themselves in the shop window at least.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, July 19, 2023, 11:00:36
By that I dont mean that they will win the game on their own, I just mean they should at least show glimpses of quality and look decent, apparently at Hereford they both looked lost and disinterested all game from what I have been told. They should be putting themselves in the shop window at least.

Yeah I understand where you are coming from, but I'm not convinced it works like that. It must be difficult to get motivated in a game like that, but I agree the very minimum they need to do is give their all. Perhaps given how thin our squad is, Flynn asked them to play below their capacity so as not to get injured!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, July 19, 2023, 11:02:56
I hoped against a non league side he would come good and grab a few goals, also Aguiar should be controlling these games but he isnt either.

I would happily get rid of Adeloye and Aguiar, and I think Flynn is of the same opinion, I think Darcy and Shade both looked near useless yesterday against young opponents when they should be trying hard to impress Flynn. Cain, he had little support in the middle but again a lot of his passing was wayward when he should be dominating against a side with only about 10 1st team games between them (other than Conway who was head and shoulders the best player on the pitch for the last hour).

I suspect Flynn will, as much as anything, base any decisions/opinions re Cain on his time at Newport.

As for the rest the friendlies yesterday seem to have been rather a waste of time (bar the first bit at City), the best player in the world would struggle to shine playing with a  load of players that they have never played with before, I do wonder whether the strange format with City was a prerequisite of them agreeing to the friendly in the first place.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Wednesday, July 19, 2023, 11:14:28
Noticed one of our content providers have gone full Arsenal Fan TV mode too which is just adding to this observation.

Who?

Is he calling people suspects and fams and bloods?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: ThreeDrawsMentality on Wednesday, July 19, 2023, 11:31:12
Is that Fools Rush in? I wonder if that's either 'parody' or doing it for the clicks.
That's the badger. First thoughts were similar and wondered if it was purely for 'engagement', but seems to be very far down a toxicity rabbit hole now.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, July 19, 2023, 11:38:55
That's the badger. First thoughts were similar and wondered if it was purely for 'engagement', but seems to be very far down a toxicity rabbit hole now.

For a while I've had the belief that you have to be very very careful on Social media. Too much activity and you can get sucked into all kind of weird and wonderful conversations with strangers that go down strange and bewitching paths. I almost never use twitter to converse, partly for those very same reasons. The whole place, whilst absolutely brilliant on the one hand, is an absolute bin fire on the other.

FWIW I quite like the Fools rush in conversation, it's a decent mix of fans of all ages. I always thought Fyfie (I think that's him) was quite level headed and similar in mindset to me, but yeah some of what's being posted does seem unusually negative.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Wednesday, July 19, 2023, 11:47:03
I hoped against a non league side he would come good and grab a few goals, also Aguiar should be controlling these games but he isnt either.

I would happily get rid of Adeloye and Aguiar, and I think Flynn is of the same opinion, I think Darcy and Shade both looked near useless yesterday against young opponents when they should be trying hard to impress Flynn. Cain, he had little support in the middle but again a lot of his passing was wayward when he should be dominating against a side with only about 10 1st team games between them (other than Conway who was head and shoulders the best player on the pitch for the last hour).

Darcy, Shade, Adeloye and Aguiar I would all make free to leave, but I suspect he already has.

Cain I still think we can get a decent player out of. He's shown flashes of it and Flynn got the best out of him at Newport.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: ThreeDrawsMentality on Wednesday, July 19, 2023, 11:47:40
For a while I've had the belief that you have to be very very careful on Social media. Too much activity and you can get sucked into all kind of weird and wonderful conversations with strangers that go down strange and bewitching paths. I almost never use twitter to converse, partly for those very same reasons. The whole place, whilst absolutely brilliant on the one hand, is an absolute bin fire on the other.

FWIW I quite like the Fools rush in conversation, it's a decent mix of fans of all ages. I always thought Fyfie (I think that's him) was quite level headed and similar in mindset to me, but yeah some of what's being posted does seem unusually negative.
Completely agree. This is absolutely my thoughts too on both Social Media and FRI.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Wednesday, July 19, 2023, 15:02:32
Sounds like we’ve signed Messi

https://twitter.com/hcfootball01/status/1681603144583639040?s=61&t=HYPly50GSEZLTKzNdaNp7Q


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, July 19, 2023, 18:36:44
Maybe we could have some friendlies against teams the town is twinned with:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deportivo_Ocotal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elana_Toru%C5%84
https://www.transfermarkt.com/sv-borussia-salzgitter/startseite/verein/24623


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Thursday, July 20, 2023, 19:42:54
Classic Lindsey

"Apart from the four goals and 2 or 3 other chances I don't think they opened us up at all"


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Thursday, July 20, 2023, 20:42:38
Classic Lindsey

"Apart from the four goals and 2 or 3 other chances I don't think they opened us up at all"


Flynn said this?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Thursday, July 20, 2023, 21:04:04
I think Lindsey said it after their 4-0 v palace. Or words to that effect


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Friday, July 21, 2023, 03:28:25
Flynn said this?
No. Hence the ‘Classic Lindsey’ bit!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Wormholes of Time on Friday, July 21, 2023, 15:33:02
In late June, after scattering my mother-in-law's ashes in Belfast and Omagh, we returned to Glencolumbkille in Co. Donegal after a gap of 39 years (my wife and I were married in Belfast - Reg was there btw). We walked the St Colmcille pilgrimage trail again in the hope that this would bring good fortune to the Robins this season. I have done my best in this current preseason. I can do no more. Fingers crossed.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Friday, July 21, 2023, 15:39:28
Belfast c1984 would have been an 'interesting' place to visit I would imagine....I've been much more recently (Belfast and Derry/Londonderry) and although it's obviously a much different place now, you still get the feeling of the tensions running only just below the surface...recent events have born that out...


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Friday, July 21, 2023, 15:40:27
Is tomorrows game televised?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, July 21, 2023, 15:57:21
Belfast c1984 would have been an 'interesting' place to visit I would imagine....I've been much more recently (Belfast and Derry/Londonderry) and although it's obviously a much different place now, you still get the feeling of the tensions running only just below the surface...recent events have born that out...

Yeah when we went to Belfast for Christmas markets last year my brother and sister in law and their 2 friends were drunkenly accosted in their hotel bar during late night drinks by a local that had clearly heard the Dublin accents and was looking to antagonise. He picked the wrong people as they couldn't give any less of a shit about it, and so I think he eventually got bored and left them alone.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Cowley38 on Friday, July 21, 2023, 16:56:31
Not going to Plymouth friendly..

Better things to do than watch us get stuffed out of sight again....

Who knows may even get to celebrate our 3rd out of 5 loan signings......





Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Friday, July 21, 2023, 17:02:14
Not going to Plymouth friendly..

Better things to do than watch us get stuffed out of sight again....

Who knows may even get to celebrate our 3rd out of 5 loan signings......




Credit where it's due Cowley, you did say that we could only afford loan signings and thus far (sadly) you've not been proved wrong...


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Cowley38 on Friday, July 21, 2023, 17:03:38
Credit where it's due Cowley, you did say that we could only afford loan signings and thus far (sadly) you've not been proved wrong...

At least 2 Bristol City players have refused to join on loan...


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Friday, July 21, 2023, 17:05:57
oh good.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Friday, July 21, 2023, 17:06:08
Not that simple though is it?

We signed Dan Kemp on loan - he’s not a Premier League youngster who a club is willing to let out for nothing (because he makes up 0.00001% of their wage bill) in return for first team football.

He’s a player from a fellow L2 club who don’t plan to use him and want him off the wage bill. So we must be paying his wages? Or at least a favourable % of his wages - so how is that situation any different to signing a player on a one year deal?

Perhaps we aren’t paying his wages but that does Franchise absolutely no favours what so ever.



Title: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Friday, July 21, 2023, 17:09:03
it's only different if he goes back in January.

it's not a disaster to only sign loans IF they are good. But it obviously limits your market and leaves you exposed.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Friday, July 21, 2023, 17:13:27
it's only different if he goes back in January.

it's not a disaster to only sign loans IF they are good. But it obviously limits your market and leaves you exposed.

Not my point.

Kemp won’t be coming here for nothing. So we will be paying wages which goes against the we are skint and can only afford to get loans in mantra. Wages for a loan player (of his nature) =/= wages for a permanent player on a 1 year deal, no?

If it were true I’d only expect to see Prem / Champ youngsters who the parent club would probably let come on loan for free (as long as they are playing) because their weekly wages are less than a ticket, pint and chips at a home game for said club, so extremely insignificant…


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Friday, July 21, 2023, 17:16:46
well obviously we have *some* budget.

you can guess whatever you like on wage %. if be amazed if it's 100%

we've let Williams go, so you can bet he's at least cheaper than that.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: RobertT on Friday, July 21, 2023, 17:18:29
Not that simple though is it?

We signed Dan Kemp on loan - he’s not a Premier League youngster who a club is willing to let out for nothing (because he makes up 0.00001% of their wage bill) in return for first team football.

He’s a player from a fellow L2 club who don’t plan to use him and want him off the wage bill. So we must be paying his wages? Or at least a favourable % of his wages - so how is that situation any different to signing a player on a one year deal?

Perhaps we aren’t paying his wages but that does Franchise absolutely no favours what so ever.



Didn't I read he will be OOC at the end of the season?  In which case I'd wager we are not footing his entire wage, otherwise they'd be just as good to send him on a free and get rid of the liability.

Although I can find no quick evidence for my memory!  So maybe I'm talking bollocks.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Friday, July 21, 2023, 17:23:05
well obviously we have *some* budget.

you can guess whatever you like on wage %. if be amazed if it's 100%

we've let Williams go, so you can bet he's at least cheaper than that.
Well this depends on what camp people are in. Some people will say we were paying Williams peanuts and that's why he left


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: RobertT on Friday, July 21, 2023, 17:26:43
Well this depends on what camp people are in. Some people will say we were paying Williams peanuts and that's why he left

I heard it was Macadamia nuts, after the embargo was lifted.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Friday, July 21, 2023, 17:27:42
well obviously we have *some* budget.


Which still goes against certain claims, doesn’t it


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Friday, July 21, 2023, 17:29:58
Well this depends on what camp people are in. Some people will say we were paying Williams peanuts and that's why he left

I think the opinion is we were paying Williams peanuts and are now paying Dan Kemp even less peanuts


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Posh Red on Friday, July 21, 2023, 17:34:40
At least 2 Bristol City players have refused to join on loan...

Presumably they talked to Kadji & said fuck that.

Unlike KKH who sang our praises to Barry


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Cowley38 on Friday, July 21, 2023, 17:37:22
well obviously we have *some* budget.

you can guess whatever you like on wage %. if be amazed if it's 100%

we've let Williams go, so you can bet he's at least cheaper than that.

The budget will not allow those 5 or 6 'quality' experienced players ....

Only the l outlay on Lower League loan players or Championship youngsters whose % wage we will pay will be minimal



Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Friday, July 21, 2023, 17:38:40
The budget will not allow those 5 or 6 'quality' experienced players ....

Only the l outlay on Lower League loan players or Championship youngsters whose % wage we will pay will be minimal



Can you give us an indication what the budget is?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Friday, July 21, 2023, 17:50:19
The budget will not allow those 5 or 6 'quality' experienced players ....

Only the l outlay on Lower League loan players or Championship youngsters whose % wage we will pay will be minimal



What % of Dan Kemps wages are we paying?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Mooneyraker on Friday, July 21, 2023, 17:59:14
No one can seriously think, after another week of inactivity, that we will be anywhere near it this year. We can bleat about 'the market' but other people are doing serious business. The fact is that under Clem we are now just bystanders in the 4th Tier. Maybe that's fine, maybe it isn't.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: RobertT on Friday, July 21, 2023, 18:09:13
What % of Dan Kemps wages are we paying?

I did end-up finding some hint online that he only has one year left of his contract, which does suggest it wouldn't be 100% otherwise we'd have taken him on a free, you'd think.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Friday, July 21, 2023, 18:11:12
Just wondering why his parent club didn't want to sell him as they obviously don't want him.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Friday, July 21, 2023, 18:13:38
What % of Dan Kemps wages are we paying?
As I presume you are well aware. Nobody knows what our budget is. Nobody knows the Kemp deal. Yes, the lack of activity is irritating and, maybe, a little concerning, but until it’s finalised how can anyone form an opinion.

In days gone by before transfer windows players signed throughout the season and integrated well enough without the need for pre-season games. Again, I presume those players actively seeking a new club have kept themselves fit until they find one.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: RobertT on Friday, July 21, 2023, 18:14:00
Presumably the player isn't keen on just walking from his contract - the club would have to pay him off to make him walk.  A club like ours is not going to offer to match his current wage, so he doesn't want to jump and forfeit that financial benefit to himself for another 12 months.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Cowley38 on Friday, July 21, 2023, 18:15:12
Presumably the player isn't keen on just walking from his contract - the club would have to pay him off to make him walk.  A club like ours is not going to offer to match his current wage, so he doesn't want to jump and forfeit that financial benefit to himself for another 12 months.

Or he does not want to join permanently


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: RobertT on Friday, July 21, 2023, 18:18:18
Or he does not want to join permanently

Which supports my point - one very good reason to not take a Permanent deal elsewhere is the financial security you have with your current contract.  He may feel he can perform with us on loan and be in a stronger position in 12 months to demand a similar wage for his next move as well.  He's been with Chelsea and West Ham, so i doubt he lacks confidence in his own talent level.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Friday, July 21, 2023, 18:27:46
As I presume you are well aware. Nobody knows what our budget is. Nobody knows the Kemp deal. Yes, the lack of activity is irritating and, maybe, a little concerning, but until it’s finalised how can anyone form an opinion.

In days gone by before transfer windows players signed throughout the season and integrated well enough without the need for pre-season games. Again, I presume those players actively seeking a new club have kept themselves fit until they find one.

….people acting like they do know. So should be an easy question to get answer to…


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Friday, July 21, 2023, 18:29:58
Do we need to know😁


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Friday, July 21, 2023, 18:42:53
nobody *knows* everything.

anecdotal evidence - 2 loan signings, one youngster. two friendlies left before the season.

the preseason and recruitment**to this point** has, frankly, been shit.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Friday, July 21, 2023, 19:40:03
No one can seriously think, after another week of inactivity, that we will be anywhere near it this year. We can bleat about 'the market' but other people are doing serious business. The fact is that under Clem we are now just bystanders in the 4th Tier. Maybe that's fine, maybe it isn't.

It isn't.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: tans on Friday, July 21, 2023, 19:45:51
https://twitter.com/mattyjhewitt/status/1682472424258895877?s=46&t=sUQ-fFgelrF5oqTmo-D8tA


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: RobertT on Friday, July 21, 2023, 19:53:53
Is that to be filed under Funeral ideas that sounded funnier on paper than in reality?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: RobertT on Friday, July 21, 2023, 19:55:00
I'm assuming he meant Coffin, you'd struggle to fit a Hearse in a car.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Quagmire on Friday, July 21, 2023, 20:01:27
I'm assuming he meant Coffin, you'd struggle to fit a Hearse in a car.

https://twitter.com/danecooney_/status/1682474840098258944?s=20


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Quagmire on Friday, July 21, 2023, 20:04:40
It’s all very weird!!

https://twitter.com/NikkiJude/status/1682477297532583937


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nemo on Friday, July 21, 2023, 20:05:47
Well, that's one way of getting yourself a trial in pre-season.

Or alternatively seeing as it is the North East - good thing nobody punched the hearse.

Take your pick really...


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, July 21, 2023, 20:36:14
Pretty normal Friday night in Dunston TBH.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Friday, July 21, 2023, 20:57:01
New media guy is busy this evening

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv54IG7a8SE


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 09:44:59
Going to be a wet one today. I hope Eastleigh have plenty of cover.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 10:44:49
Going to be a wet one today. I hope Eastleigh have plenty of cover.
They dont IIRC!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 10:50:20
Went to the FA Cup game a few years ago we were under cover.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 11:01:25
.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 11:02:37
I see Charlie's gone back to his old number 32...


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 11:16:44
Went to the FA Cup game a few years ago we were under cover.
I went there about 7 years back for a friendly, not Town, and they only had 1 covered stand at that point, havent been back since.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 11:18:30
Yeah. Town fans were in there.

Apparently, of the 2 trialists, neither is Ward


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Lemis on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 11:22:36
Yeah. Town fans were in there.

Apparently, of the 2 trialists, neither is Ward

Both outfield players?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 11:24:56
Yep.

No Shade or Aguiar. Maybe both in their way.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 11:27:50
Yeah. Town fans were in there.

Apparently, of the 2 trialists, neither is Ward
I guess its Downing and the other fella in the prematch video.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 11:53:32
‘ Swindon have two trialists involved, neither of whom I recognise by face. One seems to be a defender and the other an attacker, simply based on what they're doing deep into the warm up.’


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 12:33:34
0-1 Austin pen


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 12:39:57
0-1 Austin pen

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cu__veGAwx5jax8cnespVHqRhPD_YZwbC-F1WU0/


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: adje on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 12:46:16
Think RHM will win us a few pens this season.A la Eric Sabin


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 12:47:02
Think he’ll be a real star for us


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 13:09:28
60 minute gone at Bristol City

City 7 Newport 0


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Super Hans on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 13:09:52
0-2 Khan


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 13:13:37
59: Swindon substitutions

OFF Kemp, Hutton, Austin, Lavinier, Khan, McEachran.

ON Trialist A, Brown, Cain, Darcy, Trialist B, Fox.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: ThreeDrawsMentality on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 13:18:20
60 minute gone at Bristol City

City 7 Newport 0
FGR first team 5-1 down after 60 mins against Plymouth too. Ours our 2-1 against Brizzle into perspective.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 13:20:07
Also Eastleigh drew 0-0 at home to a full strength piss stains team


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 13:27:08
1-2


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 13:34:58
2-2.

Entire team changed since leading 0-2. Shows the complete lack of depth.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 13:37:06
2-2.

Entire team changed since leading 0-2. Shows the complete lack of depth.

…I see we’ve still got the ability to do the Jody Morris collapse


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 13:37:09
strength and depth lacking

first 11 ok though obviously short

nothing new there


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 13:40:48
Pompey 9 Crawley 1

Yikes


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: RobertT on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 13:42:25
2-2.

Entire team changed since leading 0-2. Shows the complete lack of depth.

Which, given the number of players we signed last season, is a shocking and damning indictment of everyone involved.  Even the first XI is missing some key pieces, which means we spunked our entire budget up a wall with very little left to show for it.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: RedRag on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 13:44:46
Yep.

No Shade or Aguiar. Maybe both in their way.
Aguiar being loaned to Worthing per main site.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 13:45:39
Nice move


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: LucienSanchez on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 13:51:20
First XI won’t challenge for promotion as is, and the replacements are incredibly sub-par. A lot needs to improve and change, quickly.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Cowley38 on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 13:53:20
1st 11 are probably 12-13th at best

Any injuries we are relegation candidates



Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 13:56:36
Lump on now for us to go down.
Probably our last season as a league team, ever.
Not sure we’d survive non league. Be gone by 2025.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Miles Mayhem on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 13:58:52
Urgh this is so depressing.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Posh Red on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 14:04:01
1st 11 are probably 12-13th at best

Any injuries we are relegation candidates



You’re right, clearly if we get 6 or 7 long term injuries we’re in real trouble


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 14:04:45
Here’s s thought.

That’s why we’ll get some more players in!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Cowley38 on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 14:04:52
You’re right, clearly if we get 6 or 7 long term injuries we’re in real trouble

Even 1 more long term injury we would struggle with the bench we have


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 14:05:58
I realise we're all doomed, but there's a huge gap between mid table and relegation candidates in a two down division where at least two teams appear to be absolutely financial basket cases. This division will be very hard to get out of in either direction this season for an average club.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: RobertT on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 14:07:09
You’re right, clearly if we get 6 or 7 long term injuries we’re in real trouble

If we plan on sticking with the five man defence, we are already in trouble as we are having to play both Minturn and Brewitt, neither of which is a nailed on first teamer really.  Minutrn should be developing and Brewitt should be a squad player, the one you bring in for the odd injury.

Need two centre backs asap - the other positions we could work with, but those look weak to start the season to me.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 14:07:32
I realise we're all doomed, but there's a huge gap between mid table and relegation candidates in a two down division where at least two teams appear to be absolutely financial basket cases. This division will be very hard to get out of in either direction this season for an average club.

…we’re a financial basket case. Points deduction incoming.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 14:10:55
…we’re a financial basket case. Points deduction incoming.

I’ve just had all my butchery knives re edged and honed, razor sharpe. Would you like to borrow them?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: RobertT on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 14:11:32
I’ve just had all my buttery knives re edged and honed, razor sharpe. Would you like to borrow them?

He is being "funny"


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 14:11:45
Lavinier injured


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 14:13:51
He is being "funny"

I like to view it as ‘helpful’.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 14:14:04
I’ve just had all my butchery knives re edged and honed, razor sharpe. Would you like to borrow them?

I mean - if they have your finger prints on they could come in handy


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: RobertT on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 14:18:48
This post season we have let the following go:

Williams
Harries
Roberts
Dabre
Parsons
Iandolo
Baudry
Massey
Cowmeadow
Aguiar - loan

We also lost the following from loans:
Jephcott
Tomlinson
Brynn
Kadji
Brennan

I think it's entirely conceivable that fans would be a little on the negative vs. positive side right now, given the fact we are two weeks from the start of the season.  I'm not talking about the quality of those leaving, simply the fact that a decent wedge of our wage bill vanished and has not ben re-used.  Some of the individuals will not have been on much, but thats 10 wages gone and 5 loans replaced by 2 loans.

We brought in two on loan - right now, we are short in defence even to start the season, let alone needing back-ups.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 14:19:19
Lavinier injured

At this rate struggling to put a team out for Colchester!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 14:20:57
Here’s s thought.

That’s why we’ll get some more players in!

Because we've proven ourselves so capable of that thus far.

Season under the two weeks mark now.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 14:23:05
I think it's entirely conceivable that fans would be a little on the negative vs. positive side right now, given the fact we are two weeks from the start of the season. 

Completely agree, it's just there's a big leap between 'we are not currently on track to build a promotion challenging side' and 'going down with Lindsey's Crypto Crawley'.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 14:24:26
I don't think we're either😀


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Moss on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 14:24:45
Thought we played well first half. Subs made us weaker. There 21 was better than our 21. First time we haven’t lost there?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 14:25:29
This post season we have let the following go:

Williams
Harries
Roberts
Dabre
Parsons
Iandolo
Baudry
Massey
Cowmeadow
Aguiar - loan

We also lost the following from loans:
Jephcott
Tomlinson
Brynn
Kadji
Brennan

I think it's entirely conceivable that fans would be a little on the negative vs. positive side right now, given the fact we are two weeks from the start of the season.  I'm not talking about the quality of those leaving, simply the fact that a decent wedge of our wage bill vanished and has not ben re-used.  Some of the individuals will not have been on much, but thats 10 wages gone and 5 loans replaced by 2 loans.

We brought in two on loan - right now, we are short in defence even to start the season, let alone needing back-ups.

Yeah we need about four signings to put a half decent first XI together for me. The squad both in terms of quality and quantity are so far off what is required to compete it's laughable and people are still mocked for being negative.

All those numbers gone and we've signed two players on loan. If we get unlucky with injuries we could genuinely be facing a relegation scrap at this rate.

We need to pull multiple cats out of bags in the next 12 days or so.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Posh Red on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 14:28:44
This post season we have let the following go:

Williams
Harries
Roberts
Dabre
Parsons
Iandolo
Baudry
Massey
Cowmeadow
Aguiar - loan

We also lost the following from loans:
Jephcott
Tomlinson
Brynn
Kadji
Brennan

I think it's entirely conceivable that fans would be a little on the negative vs. positive side right now, given the fact we are two weeks from the start of the season.  I'm not talking about the quality of those leaving, simply the fact that a decent wedge of our wage bill vanished and has not ben re-used.  Some of the individuals will not have been on much, but thats 10 wages gone and 5 loans replaced by 2 loans.

We brought in two on loan - right now, we are short in defence even to start the season, let alone needing back-ups.

So we have basically let two regular starters (Brynn & Williams) go & replaced them with two regular starters.

What is clearly an issue is that we have no depth at all now and unless we sign 3 or 4 more we are not going to be anywhere near the top 7.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Mooneyraker on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 14:30:55
This pre-season has left me fatigued.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: RobertT on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 14:31:54
You can argue who was a first teamer or not, the point is more that 9 wages were taken off the books and 5 loans slots that we were funding last season.

To replace that we've used two loan slots.

If we were sticking with last seasons budget, which you'd hope we were, then there should be some money already available to use without needing to offload anyone.  With a defence that is already only really playing with two starters in the five, it's a little worrisome that we have not managed to get a couple more in for that position already.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 14:33:49
Flynn tells @BBCWiltsSport that Shade has an abductor tear, but Flynn sound’s unconcerned. Lavinier has gone over on an ankle


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Mooneyraker on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 14:34:29
Any word on signings…?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 14:36:12
Something along the lines of "every other club has made them apart from us"😀


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Boeta on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 14:36:52
Sounds like his first choice targets are still available but want more money than he wants to/can pay for the time being

Expects 1-2 more to leave before the season starts as well


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Posh Red on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 14:38:01
You can argue who was a first teamer or not, the point is more that 9 wages were taken off the books and 5 loans slots that we were funding last season.

To replace that we've used two loan slots.

If we were sticking with last seasons budget, which you'd hope we were, then there should be some money already available to use without needing to offload anyone.  With a defence that is already only really playing with two starters in the five, it's a little worrisome that we have not managed to get a couple more in for that position already.

Spot on, we should be in a position to bring in the 3 or 4 more we need, but some of the over reaction (not from you) that we are now relegation fodder is bonkers.

The concern must be that we don’t want to fall too far behind the top 7 before we finish building the squad.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 14:41:34
Quote from: Legends-Lounge
I’ve just had all my butchery knives re edged and honed, razor sharpe. Would you like to borrow them?

just DV being DV


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 14:43:39
Quote from: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey
Pompey 9 Crawley 1

Yikes

Pompey didn't open them up except for the 9 goals


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 14:44:27
Nice :clap: :clap:


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 14:45:55
Quote from: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey
Lavinier injured

brilliant.

any idea how injured. they usually don't give that before scans, etc


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Posh Red on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 14:48:23
brilliant.

any idea how injured. they usually don't give that before scans, etc

Someone said he’d gone over on his ankle, but not sure of the extent of the injury


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: A Gent Orange on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 14:51:49
Someone said he’d gone over on his ankle, but not sure of the extent of the injury

Flynn said it on BBC Wilts. About 1530ish. Said he isn’t too concerned. Shade has an abductor tear but nothing of the seriousness of Clayton.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Posh Red on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 14:52:40
Flynn said it on BBC Wilts. About 1530ish. Said he isn’t too concerned. Shade has an abductor tear but nothing of the seriousness of Clayton.

:thumb:


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Kaufman on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 14:54:05
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/live:bbc_radio_wiltshire

Listen and scrub back here to 15.30pm
He's said Jamie R talking to a player and hoping for good news on the way home.

I honestly think Flynn is doing whats best for the team and the club.
It's just if he can get those players he wants over the line.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 14:58:29
injury reports are a relief, we are already thread bare imo!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Mooneyraker on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 15:01:13
I do think something must have happened in late Jan/Early Feb, which might have been when this mystery debenture bill arose.

We went from Clem front and centre, Austin in and an expensive managerial appointment in Morris/Brand to Clem absolutely absent, Morris rapidly looking like he was being held hostage and a total lack of ability to get a transfer over the line.

On another note, I though Flynn sounded like was was bluffing on the Shade injury. Suspect he might me on the naughty step.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 15:02:44
Or on the way out


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Cowley38 on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 15:03:47
I do think something must have happened in late Jan/Early Feb, which might have been when this mystery debenture bill arose.

We went from Clem front and centre, Austin in and an expensive managerial appointment in Morris/Brand to Clem absolutely absent, Morris rapidly looking like he was being held hostage and a total lack of ability to get a transfer over the line.

On another note, I though Flynn sounded like was was bluffing on the Shade injury. Suspect he might me on the naughty step.

Mirrors what happened when Power lost interest and went AWOL...



Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 15:13:25
I've no idea what the situation is re Clem. would be nice to hear from him


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Quagmire on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 15:17:19
I've no idea what the situation is re Clem. would be nice to hear from him

There is no situation…

People are making mountains out of mole hills.
He’s still attending the advisory board every month via video and he is still in contact with Flynn.
He has simply got his own men in place now and is happy with them running the club.

People really do look into stuff far too much.


Title: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 15:26:36
still think it would be nice to hear from him


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Mooneyraker on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 16:05:15
There is no situation…

People are making mountains out of mole hills.
He’s still attending the advisory board every month via video and he is still in contact with Flynn.
He has simply got his own men in place now and is happy with them running the club.

People really do look into stuff far too much.

Why won’t he attend the Forum via video…?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 16:18:26
I mean - if they have your finger prints on they could come in handy

Be wiped with Isopropanol. We’re good.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 16:24:42
Pompey didn't open them up except for the 9 goals

 I thought Crawley were getting the measure of them when the 9th went in.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 16:47:52
…I see we’ve still got the ability to do the Jody Morris collapse


I see you're still obsessed with a manager who left ages ago. Move on DV  ;)


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 16:53:58
Why won’t he attend the Forum via video…?
He has another business to run. In the last 2 years he has been out the country 9 months just based on STFC related business and has been ridiculed and called all sorts on social media. Fans have been screaming out now for the club to be ran day to day properly, he has employed people to do this and wants them to run.

Let's face it, the last few times he was on the pods and the fans forum he was moaned at then for just passing the questions over to Rob


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 16:55:51

just DV being DV


Trouble is, DV seems to get a free pass in this regard. If other or less frequent posters were to do this....lord the amount of shit they'd get.

I like DV but his sarcasm isn't as funny as it used to be. It's more like a broken record. Maybe he's just as fed up of pre-season as most of us and is just passing the time...  :hmmm:


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 16:57:44
I got no doubts he has the right people running the club in his absence but his seemingly lack of investment on the playing staff is why the fans are concerned.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: RWB Robin on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 17:00:11
I don't understand the preoccupation wuth having the owner turn up for public meetings. Yes, Clem was very visible when he bought the club so pehaps raised expectations; but no other owner that i can think of appeared every time some fans demand it. Sir Seton Wills (RIP) lived 10 miles away....i wonder how many times he turned up to pu lic meetings? That is whatva CEO is for and the manager for footballing comment.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Cowley38 on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 17:05:44
I got no doubts he has the right people running the club in his absence but his seemingly lack of investment on the playing staff is why the fans are concerned.

Or has he?%


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 17:15:34
Or has he?%

Time will tell🤔


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Trashbat? on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 17:18:29
I think the problem is that after the Power years everyone got their hopes up that we would instantly turn into a new club. That first season under Garner raised those expectations further. Last year was a damp squib on the field and behind the scenes we looked a clueless, rudderless mess.

This preseason is so much like a Power one that it does make you question what is happening. I think the reality is the ship needs turning and it is going to take time. From what I have heard Clem is really cracking the whip on costs, so we are going to have to be prepared that this season is going to be a transition one. I really wouldn’t be surprised if he is feeling a bit fed up and questioning his decision to buy us. Whoever hoodwinked him into appointing Sandro has put us back at least 2 seasons of progress on the pitch.

Clem has got his own people in now and I really wouldn’t be surprised to see RA leave or move into a new role soon. The question is are people from an M&E background any better suited to running a football club.

I find myself frustrated about where we are at the moment, but if some pain this year means we can have a better future maybe it will be worth it. But I do worry a lot of peoples resolve might be tested this year, especially after last.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 17:43:37
Totally reasoned post and agree with most of that.

I can't see a good chunk of the fan bae being happy whilst cost seemingly continues to be cut. There's cost cutting and then there is continuously doing so. It feels like any aspect of speculate to accumulate has gone out of the window briefly.

If Town had really shit gates then indeed I could see the continuation of cost cutting being a good thing but as usual, the club keep banging the drum about them needing Town to come out in their numbers and support the club yet several here seem to say that gates don't matter...so which one is it? Cos it can't be both.

I genuinely think the club are very skint/Clem doesn't want to put in any more money of significance at this time. It's in a healthier place...kind of but there seems to be no calculated risk going on.

It's all very much like Town have become a close to ''even money'' non-League side and that the board have accepted that this is their strategy. To not necessarily compete but to exist...as I said, I'm not sure how long the fanbase would be happy to just exist with no prospect of moving in an upwards {or hopefully not downwards} fashion.

Sighhhh  :cry:


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 17:52:40
I got no doubts he has the right people running the club in his absence but his seemingly lack of investment on the playing staff is why the fans are concerned.
What do you want him to say, if he says to you that he thinks we have a competetive budget like the manager has been saying what will your response be


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 18:09:33
https://therealefl.co.uk/2023/07/22/not-good-enough-to-be-in-the-squad-crawley-town-boss-brutally-assesses-squad-after-heavy-defeat/

"Crawley Town manager Scott Lindsey revealed to the club’s media that he told members of the dressing room they were “not good enough to be in the squad” following a 9-1 defeat to Portsmouth in pre-season."


Pre-season could definitely be going worse!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 18:10:22
What do you want him to say, if he says to you that he thinks we have a competetive budget like the manager has been saying what will your response be

I don't want him to say anything proof is players coming through the door which then gives the supporters hope for the coming season.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Quagmire on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 18:10:33
It’s literally not worth Clem, Rob Angus or even Flynn for that matter giving any interviews as no one believes a word they say anyway.

Rob Angus and Flynn have both said we have a competitive budget this season but fans have decided we are skint.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: RobertT on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 18:12:02
What do you want him to say, if he says to you that he thinks we have a competetive budget like the manager has been saying what will your response be

Having stumbled across this, it continues to make me grin.  Grin in so far as how open it is, which is refreshing for a football club.

https://www.carlisleunited.co.uk/news/2023/january/club-audited-annual-accounts-202122/

I would love for our club to follow suit - especially as we make some brash statements about being number one for fan engagement.  Well, put our literal money where our mouth is.

I'd even suggest going a step further, release the forecasts for the in year or coming year.

We will never do it though.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 18:13:22
Trouble is, DV seems to get a free pass in this regard. If other or less frequent posters were to do this....lord the amount of shit they'd get.

I like DV but his sarcasm isn't as funny as it used to be. It's more like a broken record. Maybe he's just as fed up of pre-season as most of us and is just passing the time...  :hmmm:

DVs the best poster this forum has ever had.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 18:16:04
It’s literally not worth Clem, Rob Angus or even Flynn for that matter giving any interviews as no one believes a word they say anyway.

Rob Angus and Flynn have both said we have a competitive budget this season but fans have decided we are skint.

Rather than coming out and saying it publicly they should have posted in behind a faceless anonymous user name on an internet forum - then they would have been believed


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 18:17:20
Hope this isn't anything to go by🤣


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: RobertT on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 18:27:48
To further my current love in of Carlisle's financial reporting, here is the actual published document:

https://www.carlisleunited.co.uk/siteassets/documents-2223/car816-cufc-1921-signed-accounts-2022---no-detailed-pl.pdf

It's a remarkable amount of information - someone must have spent ages compiling this.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 18:34:26
Great post and insight into the finances of CUFC. Love to see the Swindon Town balance sheets over the same period for a comparison.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Trashbat? on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 18:38:22
It’s literally not worth Clem, Rob Angus or even Flynn for that matter giving any interviews as no one believes a word they say anyway.

Rob Angus and Flynn have both said we have a competitive budget this season but fans have decided we are skint.

There is competitive budget and then there is being 2 weeks from the start of the season with a threadbare squad.

RA’s programme notes around learning from mistakes are well documented.

I don’t think RA is a liar, just has to tell the fans what they want to hear to avoid the pitchforks


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Quagmire on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 18:55:34
There is competitive budget and then there is being 2 weeks from the start of the season with a threadbare squad.

RA’s programme notes around learning from mistakes are well documented.

I don’t think RA is a liar, just has to tell the fans what they want to hear to avoid the pitchforks

Learning from mistakes would also mean not wasting the budget by signing shit, and making sure we get the correct players.

People just seem to want signings regardless of who they are…. Let’s not forget Flynn signed 21 players himself last summer and struggled.
He himself wants to make sure he gets the right type in.

Flynn and Angus have both said the budget is competitive.
Flynn has said there will be both more incomings and outgoings.
Flynn has said he wants to bring some experience in.
Flynn has said he will wait until the right players become available.

All of the above has been said yet our fans still have their pitchforks out because we haven’t signed some mediocre players from Newport that no one even knows if we wanted anyway.


Title: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 19:02:51
The response is one of concern. It's pretty simple to understand why.

Some quality signings will shut that up. Not rocket science.

Yeah views range from the reasonable to the extreme. Maybe if it didn't have a feeling of January dejavous people would be more relaxed in the first place .
-----
Wouldn't hurt Clem to give a couple of hours of his time for the fans forum, like he was going to.

personally got no real questions for him, but that's not the point


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 19:06:16
For better or worse there seems to be a feeling that we're falling behind even the smaller league 2 clubs with a lack of transfer activity knowing that the current squad was threadbare before any injuries.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: singingiiiffy on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 19:07:00
Learning from mistakes would also mean not wasting the budget by signing shit, and making sure we get the correct players.

People just seem to want signings regardless of who they are…. Let’s not forget Flynn signed 21 players himself last summer and struggled.
He himself wants to make sure he gets the right type in.

Flynn and Angus have both said the budget is competitive.
Flynn has said there will be both more incomings and outgoings.
Flynn has said he wants to bring some experience in.
Flynn has said he will wait until the right players become available.


All of the above has been said yet our fans still have their pitchforks out because we haven’t signed some mediocre players from Newport that no one even knows if we wanted anyway.

I'm refusing to get involved in any forum chat based on the above. I will join in the meltdown when the season starts and the situation hasn't changed. Just not worth getting stressed when it can change in an instant


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: ThreeDrawsMentality on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 19:08:45
For better or worse there seems to be a feeling that we're falling behind even the smaller league 2 clubs with a lack of transfer activity knowing that the current squad was threadbare before any injuries.
Flynns words today were on the lines of once the fans see who I'm after, it will have been worth the wait kind of vibe. That feeling you describe above could hopefully be eased of Flynn pulls this off.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 19:12:38
Flynns words today were on the lines of once the fans see who I'm after, it will have been worth the wait kind of vibe. That feeling you describe above could hopefully be eased of Flynn pulls this off.

Let's hope we can secure the players Flynn is eluding to.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Quagmire on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 19:22:24
For better or worse there seems to be a feeling that we're falling behind even the smaller league 2 clubs with a lack of transfer activity knowing that the current squad was threadbare before any injuries.

This time 2 seasons ago we had about 8 players and hadn’t made one signing.

We finished in the play offs and we were a penalty away from Wembley.

When they are signed is completely irrelevant, they just need to be good.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: dogs on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 19:39:20
Not sure what's in the water but it has truly been silly season when it comes to money in league 2. Make no doubt about it, Flynn is doing the right thing by biding his time and not bowing to silly fan conjecture.

We'd agreed terms with a CB at the same time as Kemp, but they all but failed the medical and it fell through last Friday.
There's a plethora of options out there, but with the timing of the window being what it is and more players than ever being represented by the same agents, only those desperate enough to sign specific players will pay.

MF is more than aware of what we need and come the end of August we'll be in a more than strong position. This year is the time to put faith in the club and not panic.


Title: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 19:39:56
Quote
Flynns words today were on the lines of once the fans see who I'm after, it will have been worth the wait kind of vibe. That feeling you describe above could hopefully be eased of Flynn pulls this off.
great news if it comes off.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 19:43:52
That sounds great and I hope it comes off, but the list of teams desperate enough to make permanent signings now seems to include every other team in the division, including ones without very much money.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 20:05:14
This time 2 seasons ago we had about 8 players and hadn’t made one signing.

We finished in the play offs and we were a penalty away from Wembley.

When they are signed is completely irrelevant, they just need to be good.

Spot on quality over quantity as long as we get them in.

Good point regarding two seasons ago when we only had 8 players on the books and crazy to think they gelled straight away without any proper pre-season so credit must go to Garner and his backroom staff.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 20:20:00
Finally got round to listening to Flynn today:
- Should have scored more
- If it was 5-0 at half time noone would have thought we didnt deserve it
- When we add a couple to it it will be better
- Stop start with different philosophies last year
- Will be working with Hepburn-Murphy to try to improve him
- Kemp settling in well. Some players need to learn from him. Does the right things at the right times. Will be a big signing for us
- Style and structure is where Flynn wants it to be
- Bristol City first hour and Swansea first half were excellent. We need more strength in depth
- More than pleased until we made changes
- Aguilar gone to Worthing. Has to take 2 steps back to move 3 steps forward. Was frustrated last year.
- Shade is out for a few weeks.......Slight tear in abductor. Not as bad as Clayton's
- Lavinier: Not concerned. Went over on his angle
- Not urgent to bring players in. Won't be bringing in players for the sake of it
- Made lots of changes. More interested to see how young lads and trialists did.
- Wanted to see attitudes of the others
- Wouldnt say how many he wants to bring in
- Will try to get the right ones
- Not seeing a dip in player costs yet
- Certain players he is going for will cost what it costs
- Doesnt mean he will go out and sign someone who isnt his first target
- Need to be patient
- In an ideal world he would have all business done by now to focus on the league
- Flynn and Jamie Russell are on the phone lots
- 1 or 2 going out to get game time
- There will be some activity before the start of the season
- Players he would like to bring you would like to think will settle quite early
- Not by plan that it is taking so long. It is what it is. Flynn is quite relaxed about it
- Looking to add experience. The right players with the right attitude that will improve us
- Will work players hard this week
- Jamie Russell talking with a player while Flynn was driving home

(Note: His main answer to everything was 'It is what it is')

Corrected: I put Hatswell rather than Russell to begin with - Flynn actually said 'Jamie' - My mistake)


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Kaufman on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 20:26:07
Good to see it written down after listening.
One thing to say is it wasn’t Wayne Hatswell talking to the player, it was Jamie Russell he mentioned (now HOF)
Can only be a positive as that means contracts and wages are being spoken about.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Saturday, July 22, 2023, 20:26:47
Good to see it written down after listening.
One thing to say is it wasn’t Wayne Hatswell talking to the player, it’s Jamie Russell who’s HOF now.
Can only be a positive as that means contracts and wages are being spoken about.
Sorry. My bad. I'll change it.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Sunday, July 23, 2023, 08:43:30
It’s literally not worth Clem, Rob Angus or even Flynn for that matter giving any interviews as no one believes a word they say anyway.

Rob Angus and Flynn have both said we have a competitive budget this season but fans have decided we are skint.

But why do you think that is the case? Ok "some" Fans are morons - granted. All Clubs have them but not everyone is totally brainless so why is it then that people are thinking the club are skint/Clem not wanting to put more money than necessary/not speculating to accumulate?

Maybe it's because actions speak louder than words possibly? Fair, there is some time to go yet (not much) but as time ticks on we're yet to see actions backing up the words. Does that make any perceivable sense?

Let's factor in that Town fans have been rogered the fuck out of with constant "orw mowf an no trowsahs" types in straddling two decades so it is possible several fans could have become a "Doubting Thomas". Maybe that is slightly skewed and unfair on the current board/owner?!

I will ask though, and flip this back at you (or anyone else) though...why do you seemingly have an inherently unbudgeable trust that you beleive their every word and that they will follow through and deliver upon said word(s)? Like, what makes you think that that is more correct than someone who disagrees with that?

For me, I'm torn because I obviously want this current ownership to all work out but a lot of the time I've seen the equivalent of political spin from the club mouthpiece and several bumbling answers as well as an implied guilt imposed upon fans for not backing the club enough (when they genuinely really have), this goes back to the bad taste of things like season ticket refund deferrals which again I found the approach to that absolutely disgusting from the club at the time.

It feels like...note I state "feels like" and not "it is"... feels like the people at the helm (I'm talking CM & RA) are out of their depth in terms of running a Football Club, there are elements at times which has me thinking that they seem more inept than Power (from a football contact POV not necessarily a business POV) and yep again, in recent history it seems like Town fans have had their share of shysters and chances to last a lifetime. I'm not saying that the current regime are this but I do think they aren't quite adept at running a pro football club. Which is probably why a lot of the stuff feels very non-league/tinpot at times.

Now budget... well unfortunately like it or lump it, no matter what RA or CM say, at present it does appear that Town can't compete with say 8 other teams in this division. We can argue till we're red in the face whether this is an exaggerated or over inflated market but if that is where the market is currently at then Town can't compete with that. Flynn himself has stated as such, he's said that he won't pay more...but if that's what the current market dictates then the price is the price...yes we can wait...but we could wait too long miss targets and still have to pay in an overpriced market. It's like buying and selling houses, yes the market fluctuates but when in a position where you have to purchase...you can't really have the luxury of waiting. Even if you know the market is higher than normal. What might be a £200k house now, might be £180k in two years, could be £240k but you literally can't wait to see if it does. I feel very much like it's a big gamble currently. Some might say it's shrewd or "poker" but I thought we were wanting out new board to play safe?

I guess what it then comes down to is this...What if the current market shift doesn't really drop much? And this is the new normal as such? Town suddenly and definitely do become a club that can't compete with L2 wages, without sourcing additional investment (if we assume CM doesn't want to put any more significant personal finance into the club).

We can keep kicking the can down the road though - people did it with Power for a long time and look where that nearly got us. I want to be 100% and massively wrong about all of the above but many of us are too long in the tooth to know that at Town that a disaster is seemingly always awaiting us around the corner of recent success/positivity. I don't want the club to be run like a non-league club bug I also don't want it to ridiculously overspend - I can be happy with a club that gets out of L2 at the earliest opportunity and is a competitive L1 club but right now Town are so far away from even that kind of mediocre objective and that is probably the saddest indictment of it all. Blegh.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Sunday, July 23, 2023, 08:44:33
DVs the best poster this forum has ever had.

2nd best Shirley  :girlgiggle:


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Sunday, July 23, 2023, 08:45:30
Rather than coming out and saying it publicly they should have posted in behind a faceless anonymous user name on an internet forum - then they would have been believed

Or they could have done it via Cameo...there's a thought... Oh 👀


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Sunday, July 23, 2023, 09:33:57
But why do you think that is the case? Ok "some" Fans are morons - granted. All Clubs have them but not everyone is totally brainless so why is it then that people are thinking the club are skint/Clem not wanting to put more money than necessary/not speculating to accumulate?

Maybe it's because actions speak louder than words possibly? Fair, there is some time to go yet (not much) but as time ticks on we're yet to see actions backing up the words. Does that make any perceivable sense?

Let's factor in that Town fans have been rogered the fuck out of with constant "orw mowf an no trowsahs" types in straddling two decades so it is possible several fans could have become a "Doubting Thomas". Maybe that is slightly skewed and unfair on the current board/owner?!

I will ask though, and flip this back at you (or anyone else) though...why do you seemingly have an inherently unbudgeable trust that you beleive their every word and that they will follow through and deliver upon said word(s)? Like, what makes you think that that is more correct than someone who disagrees with that?

For me, I'm torn because I obviously want this current ownership to all work out but a lot of the time I've seen the equivalent of political spin from the club mouthpiece and several bumbling answers as well as an implied guilt imposed upon fans for not backing the club enough (when they genuinely really have), this goes back to the bad taste of things like season ticket refund deferrals which again I found the approach to that absolutely disgusting from the club at the time.

It feels like...note I state "feels like" and not "it is"... feels like the people at the helm (I'm talking CM & RA) are out of their depth in terms of running a Football Club, there are elements at times which has me thinking that they seem more inept than Power (from a football contact POV not necessarily a business POV) and yep again, in recent history it seems like Town fans have had their share of shysters and chances to last a lifetime. I'm not saying that the current regime are this but I do think they aren't quite adept at running a pro football club. Which is probably why a lot of the stuff feels very non-league/tinpot at times.

Now budget... well unfortunately like it or lump it, no matter what RA or CM say, at present it does appear that Town can't compete with say 8 other teams in this division. We can argue till we're red in the face whether this is an exaggerated or over inflated market but if that is where the market is currently at then Town can't compete with that. Flynn himself has stated as such, he's said that he won't pay more...but if that's what the current market dictates then the price is the price...yes we can wait...but we could wait too long miss targets and still have to pay in an overpriced market. It's like buying and selling houses, yes the market fluctuates but when in a position where you have to purchase...you can't really have the luxury of waiting. Even if you know the market is higher than normal. What might be a £200k house now, might be £180k in two years, could be £240k but you literally can't wait to see if it does. I feel very much like it's a big gamble currently. Some might say it's shrewd or "poker" but I thought we were wanting out new board to play safe?

I guess what it then comes down to is this...What if the current market shift doesn't really drop much? And this is the new normal as such? Town suddenly and definitely do become a club that can't compete with L2 wages, without sourcing additional investment (if we assume CM doesn't want to put any more significant personal finance into the club).

We can keep kicking the can down the road though - people did it with Power for a long time and look where that nearly got us. I want to be 100% and massively wrong about all of the above but many of us are too long in the tooth to know that at Town that a disaster is seemingly always awaiting us around the corner of recent success/positivity. I don't want the club to be run like a non-league club bug I also don't want it to ridiculously overspend - I can be happy with a club that gets out of L2 at the earliest opportunity and is a competitive L1 club but right now Town are so far away from even that kind of mediocre objective and that is probably the saddest indictment of it all. Blegh.

Bang on - cracking post.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: dalumpimunki on Sunday, July 23, 2023, 10:28:57

Now budget... well unfortunately like it or lump it, no matter what RA or CM say, at present it does appear that Town can't compete with say 8 other teams in this division. We can argue till we're red in the face whether this is an exaggerated or over inflated market but if that is where the market is currently at then Town can't compete with that. Flynn himself has stated as such, he's said that he won't pay more...but if that's what the current market dictates then the price is the price...yes we can wait...but we could wait too long miss targets and still have to pay in an overpriced market.

I'm intrigued what you think your evidence for this is? Who have we bid for and missed out on? Who would we prefer to have kept that we released because someone league out of the water on wages?

We can speculate about Williams, but we don't know what he's now being paid to play at the club nearest to his family home or what, if anything, he was offered to stay here. So speculation is all it is. The FGR fella wasn't offered a deal here and went back home as soon as Ferguson left so we weren't outbid there.

So who have we been in for that we missed out on? Even the sites that trade on vague speculation have barely mentioned us this closed season.

All we actually know is that we've not had a flood of signings yet and that the players we've let go in the last couple of windows have probably reduced the wage bill a fair bit. We'll know what that means only when the window shuts or if the club state that they're looking to reduce the wage bill.

Until then it's entirely possible that there are targets that are being worked on that we are not aware of. The kind of player you all say we need tend to move late in the window, as they tend to have more options to weigh up and the confidence to not jump at their first offer.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, July 23, 2023, 10:31:00
Also Eastleigh drew 0-0 at home to a full strength piss stains team
They did but it wasnt anywhere near a full strength team put out by the yellow hun, they had 2 games the same day and split the squad.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Sunday, July 23, 2023, 10:47:55
thanks for taking time to post that nmh. Sounds encouraging if non committal


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Sunday, July 23, 2023, 11:53:55
Pompey didn't open them up except for the 9 goals

Crawley had 10 box entries, so really they won.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Sunday, July 23, 2023, 11:54:02
Trouble is, DV seems to get a free pass in this regard. If other or less frequent posters were to do this....lord the amount of shit they'd get.

I like DV but his sarcasm isn't as funny as it used to be. It's more like a broken record. Maybe he's just as fed up of pre-season as most of us and is just passing the time...  :hmmm:

Half of his schtick with Morris was mocking how people treated Lindsey....even though said people were proven right. Mocking people for being right is sure an interesting choice.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Sunday, July 23, 2023, 11:55:38
If Town had really shit gates then indeed I could see the continuation of cost cutting being a good thing but as usual, the club keep banging the drum about them needing Town to come out in their numbers and support the club yet several here seem to say that gates don't matter...so which one is it? Cos it can't be both.


This


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Sunday, July 23, 2023, 11:56:35
Quote from: ChalkyWhiteIsGod
Crawley had 10 box entries, so really they won.

🤣🤣

to be fair to Crawley I think the last 5 goals came in the final quarter (yeah they played quarters).

so a bit like us v city and Swansea


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Sunday, July 23, 2023, 12:00:04
Quote from: ChalkyWhiteIsGod
Quote
If Town had really shit gates then indeed I could see the continuation of cost cutting being a good thing but as usual, the club keep banging the drum about them needing Town to come out in their numbers and support the club yet several here seem to say that gates don't matter...so which one is it? Cos it can't be both.

This

both!

I thought the point was you can't just look and see we've twice the gate of (E.g.) Salford and conclude we've twice the budget.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Sunday, July 23, 2023, 12:00:59
I'm refusing to get involved in any forum chat based on the above. I will join in the meltdown when the season starts and the situation hasn't changed. Just not worth getting stressed when it can change in an instant

I've tried to do the same, but the usual suspects that think that people have no right to be negative push me to be more negative to be honest, because it is absolutely granted.

13 days. Chop chop Town.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Sunday, July 23, 2023, 12:05:36
Finally got round to listening to Flynn today:
- Should have scored more
- If it was 5-0 at half time noone would have thought we didnt deserve it
- When we add a couple to it it will be better
- Stop start with different philosophies last year
- Will be working with Hepburn-Murphy to try to improve him
- Kemp settling in well. Some players need to learn from him. Does the right things at the right times. Will be a big signing for us
- Style and structure is where Flynn wants it to be
- Bristol City first hour and Swansea first half were excellent. We need more strength in depth
- More than pleased until we made changes
- Aguilar gone to Worthing. Has to take 2 steps back to move 3 steps forward. Was frustrated last year.
- Shade is out for a few weeks.......Slight tear in abductor. Not as bad as Clayton's
- Lavinier: Not concerned. Went over on his angle
- Not urgent to bring players in. Won't be bringing in players for the sake of it
- Made lots of changes. More interested to see how young lads and trialists did.
- Wanted to see attitudes of the others
- Wouldnt say how many he wants to bring in
- Will try to get the right ones
- Not seeing a dip in player costs yet
- Certain players he is going for will cost what it costs
- Doesnt mean he will go out and sign someone who isnt his first target
- Need to be patient
- In an ideal world he would have all business done by now to focus on the league
- Flynn and Jamie Russell are on the phone lots
- 1 or 2 going out to get game time
- There will be some activity before the start of the season
- Players he would like to bring you would like to think will settle quite early
- Not by plan that it is taking so long. It is what it is. Flynn is quite relaxed about it
- Looking to add experience. The right players with the right attitude that will improve us
- Will work players hard this week
- Jamie Russell talking with a player while Flynn was driving home

(Note: His main answer to everything was 'It is what it is')

Corrected: I put Hatswell rather than Russell to begin with - Flynn actually said 'Jamie' - My mistake)

I find Flynn both reassuring and worrying at the same time. He seems confident he can get what he needs, but how on earth can he say its not urgent to bring players in?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Sunday, July 23, 2023, 12:19:28
Half of his schtick with Morris was mocking how people treated Lindsey....even though said people were proven right. Mocking people for being right is sure an interesting choice.

They were proven right about Lindsey that wasn’t the point, ever….
The point was people wrote Lindsey off day one but wanked themselves silly over Morris
Ultimately they were proven wrong about Morris - who was even worse…


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Sunday, July 23, 2023, 12:20:17
I like a good moan - but only after the event. Moaning about how things MIGHT turn out grips me shit.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Sunday, July 23, 2023, 12:26:48
Quote from: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey
I like a good moan - but only after the event. Moaning about how things MIGHT turn out grips me shit.

but the moaning is also about how things are now. lastminute.com

but of course you and others are right it's nowhere near irretrievable.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Sunday, July 23, 2023, 12:30:33
They were proven right about Lindsey that wasn’t the point, ever….
The point was people wrote Lindsey off day one but wanked themselves silly over Morris
Ultimately they were proven wrong about Morris - who was even worse…

Morris was shit, but he was shit with a squad of players he had absolutely no say over as he was appointed on 31 January at the end of a catastrophic transfer window he had no control over. Lindsey had all preseason where he apparently had final say on transfers.

I get the point that you think people only treated Morris differently and 'wanked themselves silly' because he was a premier league player, but that wasn't actually the case was it?

Lindsey had every chance and was shit. Morris had very little chance and was also shit. Their circumstances couldn't have been more different, which was why they were treated differently to begin with.

Which was very fucking obvious and made your posts painfully unfunny to everyone but you.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Sunday, July 23, 2023, 12:34:00
I get the point that you think people only treated Morris differently and 'wanked themselves silly' because he was a premier league player, but that wasn't actually the case was it?

Exactly what happened.
Still making excuses for him - even now.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Sunday, July 23, 2023, 12:38:11
Exactly what happened.
Still making excuses for him - even now.

Try reading. He was still shit, like I said.

Your whole schtick was that people were wanking over him because he played Premier League and should be treated like Lindsey. You were wrong. People treated Lindsey differently because he had every chance at the job and was so clearly painfully out of his depth.

Mocking the people that thought this doesn't make them look stupid, it makes you look stupid.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Sunday, July 23, 2023, 12:39:58
but the moaning is also about how things are now. lastminute.com

but of course you and others are right it's nowhere near irretrievable.
But, ultimately, whatever is happening in the boardroom and, for some, not happening re recruitment will eventually be shown to be right or wrong on the pitch. Who’s going to care if Clem is here or in Oz if we’re top of the league? Who’s going to care if we have a piss poor budget if Town are tearing it up?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jilted John on Sunday, July 23, 2023, 12:40:59
Try reading. He was still shit, like I said.
Mocking the people that thought this doesn't make them look stupid, it makes you look stupid.
Correct indeed young man


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Sunday, July 23, 2023, 12:47:29
Try reading. He was still shit, like I said.

Your whole schtick was that people were wanking over him because he played Premier League and should be treated like Lindsey. You were wrong. People treated Lindsey differently because he had every chance at the job and was so clearly painfully out of his depth.

Mocking the people that thought this doesn't make them look stupid, it makes you look stupid.

People were on Lindsey’s back the second he was appointed before he’d had a chance to show us how shit he was
People were orgasming over Morris when he joined before he’d had a chance to show us how shit he was.

Different.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Mooneyraker on Sunday, July 23, 2023, 12:50:03
People were on Lindsey’s back the second he was appointed before he’d had a chance to show us how shit he was
People were orgasming over Morris when he joined before he’d had a chance to show us how shit he was.

Different.

Lindsey and Morris had had rather contrasting careers. Morris was highly thought of. It’s pretty obvious why people might have treated their appointments differently. It didn’t work out but you seem to take some perverse glee in that.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Sunday, July 23, 2023, 12:52:27
People were on Lindsey’s back the second he was appointed before he’d had a chance to show us how shit he was
People were orgasming over Morris when he joined before he’d had a chance to show us how shit he was.

Different.

Bollocks. Complete revisionist history.

The people that were pissed off with the appointment initially were pissed off we dicked about for weeks on end doing fuck all (sound familiar) to then only go and appoint someone at the club and try to convince everyone he was always the best man for the job. They were pissed off with the club, not him.

If anything most of our fans were taken in by the shite he talks in his initial interviews that he copy and pasted when he joined Crawley accompanied with the same badge thumping after the first win.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Sunday, July 23, 2023, 12:56:51
I think you're exaggerating that people were orgasming over Morris. And I think that's the point Chalky is making

I remember saying when it came(sic) about that he would be better appointed as a No.2. My opinion was classically ignored but I kind of grew to the idea that Morris might be able to do a job. He couldn't, hand tied behind his back or not - thems the brakes.

But no one, from my limited memory was copulating profusely over the appointment of Morris; I think some might have just thought "ok, we may have a chance here and can get promoted".

I mean rewrite history to suit your own (and seemingly very individual extreme memory) thought process but it is incredibly exaggerated. Plus, your obsession with how wank Morris was, paired with an unnerving wanton to prove how lots of others were infatuated with his managerial ability is verging on crossing the parody inversion point.

Have a lovely Sunday Dinner man  :D


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Sunday, July 23, 2023, 13:09:51
I think you're exaggerating that people were orgasming over Morris. And I think that's the point Chalky is making

'orgasmining' = not calling for his head and writing him off the first moment we conceded.

You have to try and think like DV who thinks his posts are ever so witty and clever, you see.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: MangoRed on Sunday, July 23, 2023, 13:34:00
Grown men attempting to be “witty” and “sharp” by attempting to clown everything that people say that one might not agree with, by adopting the he said this on this date and she said that about this manager! Weasel stuff it really is. Get a grip, enjoy your Sunday

Fuck Lindsey
Fuck Morris

Both shite
Flynn the only manager we need to be arsed about at the moment.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Berniman on Sunday, July 23, 2023, 14:52:39
Morris was shit, but he was shit with a squad of players he had absolutely no say over as he was appointed on 31 January at the end of a catastrophic transfer window he had no control over. Lindsey had all preseason where he apparently had final say on transfers.

I get the point that you think people only treated Morris differently and 'wanked themselves silly' because he was a premier league player, but that wasn't actually the case was it?

Lindsey had every chance and was shit. Morris had very little chance and was also shit. Their circumstances couldn't have been more different, which was why they were treated differently to begin with.

Which was very fucking obvious and made your posts painfully unfunny to everyone but you.

Spot on


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Sunday, July 23, 2023, 15:39:20
Lindsey was shit
Morris was shit
Recruitment was/is shit
Staffing levels etc at the club was shit

To be honest everything about watching and supporting the club the last 12 months has been absolutely bollocks and rubbish. I stick up for the club more than most but only when i think they are unfairly lambasted for absolutely every single thing thats when i think it's over the top but those things listed above need fixing this season or the club is is a mess this time next season  that's for sure


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: UTR on Sunday, July 23, 2023, 16:31:27
Doesn’t take a genius to work out the key difference’s between the 2 as been listed above.

Lindsey failed with a more balanced (albeit still not great) squad that he had input in assembling.

Morris failed with a squad that wasn’t his that also lost most of its experienced players in January and suffered massive injury and suspension issues during his first few weeks.

Both failed in their own ways but Morris had a much shittier hand dealt to him squad wise than Lindsey which is why people were more sympathetic to him although towards the end of his time here it was evident that we weren’t the right match for eachother regardless.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Sunday, July 23, 2023, 16:51:20

Grown men attempting to be “witty” and “sharp” by attempting to clown everything that people say that one might not agree with, by adopting the he said this on this date and she said that about this manager! Weasel stuff it really is. Get a grip, enjoy your Sunday


Unfortunately on this forum historically, posters have continuously called people out and then asked them to prove when they made such statements or they've had to provide archival quotation from said forum.

Yep, it's pathetic.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Posh Red on Sunday, July 23, 2023, 16:58:39
The interesting thing with Morris is that he took a team which Mad Gav let loose and looked half decent and turned them into dogshit.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nemo on Sunday, July 23, 2023, 17:01:46
The interesting thing with Morris is that he took a team which Mad Gav let loose and looked half decent and turned them into dogshit.

Gunning managed two games in January, against the teams in 16th and 23rd at the time, with the team in 16th down to 10 men after 34 minutes. We drew with the team in 23rd, conceding three goals in the process. I think you'd have to say that isn't really sufficient evidence to say that he'd have been any better, albeit it couldn't really have gone much worse.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Sunday, July 23, 2023, 17:06:13
The interesting thing with Morris is that he took a team which Mad Gav let loose and looked half decent and turned them into dogshit.

Gunning was a total anomaly with also absolutely zero pressure to perform in the role. Might as well have played pin the tail on the Adeloye and hoped for the best! ;)


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Sunday, July 23, 2023, 17:46:14
Yeah i am not having that Morris was hampered a lot more than Lindsey was. They were both quite poor tbh. Infact i enjoyed footbal under SL a bit more as i ewxpected alot more from Morris


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Posh Red on Sunday, July 23, 2023, 19:01:32
Gunning was a total anomaly with also absolutely zero pressure to perform in the role. Might as well have played pin the tail on the Adeloye and hoped for the best! ;)

Yep, and while it was a small sample against teams that finished below us in the table at the end of the season, the football was much more enjoyable.

It just feels that the “Morris was hampered” because we had shit players is a bit over generous


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: RobertT on Sunday, July 23, 2023, 19:33:20
Morris had a much worse team than Lindsey, but then flatly refused to play in a way that maximised what he did have.  Gunning simplified it all - get the ball wide and feed Austin.  We were still not a great team, so I doubt he'd keep that record up over time, and the Gillingham first 30 minutes showed he was just as likely to fuck it all up.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: RobertT on Sunday, July 23, 2023, 19:35:43
It's also why I wasn't as much of a panic in recent weeks, because you have to assume Flynn will realise he has been given a golden goose upfront and use him.  The lack of defenders is looking worrying though.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Posh Red on Sunday, July 23, 2023, 19:41:28
It's also why I wasn't as much of a panic in recent weeks, because you have to assume Flynn will realise he has been given a golden goose upfront and use him.  The lack of defenders is looking worrying though.

Spot on.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Sunday, July 23, 2023, 20:38:13
Yep, and while it was a small sample against teams that finished below us in the table at the end of the season, the football was much more enjoyable.

It just feels that the “Morris was hampered” because we had shit players is a bit over generous

I think it's the point that he inherited rather than selected said shit team. It's possible a better coach may have got more out of them...it's also possible any coach that came in would say "what the fuck have you assembled here, it's totally unbalanced and I'm going to struggle to get a tune out of this lot". So if we take it at face value - SL got to select or at least choose the majority of his squad. JM effectively had very little input into that squad. We'll never fully know if he was told he would get a Jan window to bring in his own additions, but I would suggest that if any of us were appointed into any job where a specific window of opportunity was, to close in a day or two...we too would probably struggle to bring in any more additions.

Anyway, it's gone now. DV was still being a dick to now, on the matter. Claiming folk were ecstatic about JMs appointment when it clearly wasn't the case.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Sunday, July 23, 2023, 20:45:12
Morris had a much worse team than Lindsey, but then flatly refused to play in a way that maximised what he did have.  Gunning simplified it all - get the ball wide and feed Austin.  We were still not a great team, so I doubt he'd keep that record up over time, and the Gillingham first 30 minutes showed he was just as likely to fuck it all up.

Gunning had a totally free hit bad no pressure to perform/get results. It's brings a whole different dynamic and mentality to the approach.

I don't think anyone thinks Morris is some mastermind or the next Arsène Weniger but let's also not try and convince ourselves that Gunning was a master tactician either (I know you're not). SL, well...we know his level. For soem reason I have a feeling JM will go on and do ok somewhere else eventually. I really do think he is a better Assistant Manager though. His time at a few, clubs seems to back that up. John Gorman...great Assistant but not so great as a Manager. Good Assistants are jsut as important in my book to complete the whole picture and when it clicks it's great. Allardyce & Sammy Lee is a decent example over a longish period, especially the Bolton years.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Monday, July 24, 2023, 06:26:39
Lindseys team in December

Brynn
Hutton
MacDonald
Blake-Tracy
Lavinier
Darcy
Reed
Iandolo
Shade
Wakeling
Williams

Morris Team in March

Brynn
Hutton
Brewitt
Blake-Tracy
Tomlinson
Khan
McEachran
Williams
Hepburn-Murphy
Austin
Wakeling

Both weren't that great in my opinion but i am not entirely sure Morris wasn't given that many tools. Whether we like him or not Lindsey for the most part had us sat in the play offswith his hands tied too


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Monday, July 24, 2023, 07:27:16
All an irrelevance, but it is a forum, and people entitled to their opinion.

I didn't think Lindsey was 'that bad'. I don't think we gave him much chance. I think he would have got us into the play offs, but I think we would have lost.

I think Morris was a disaster. He and his Chelsea sidekick can't have been cheap. I would put him in the Paul Hart, John Sheridan, Maurice Malpas category for us. The players just didn't perform for him for some reason.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Mooneyraker on Monday, July 24, 2023, 07:41:01
All an irrelevance, but it is a forum, and people entitled to their opinion.

I didn't think Lindsey was 'that bad'. I don't think we gave him much chance. I think he would have got us into the play offs, but I think we would have lost.

I think Morris was a disaster. He and his Chelsea sidekick can't have been cheap. I would put him in the Paul Hart, John Sheridan, Maurice Malpas category for us. The players just didn't perform for him for some reason.

I respectfully disagree. The Hart/Sheridan category is reserved for managers who seemed to be actively working to destroy the club. Morris didn’t help himself towards the end but I always felt he was unlucky. RHM stays on at Newport for example and then his tenure was off and running.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Monday, July 24, 2023, 07:47:26
Lindseys team in December

Brynn
Hutton
MacDonald
Blake-Tracy
Lavinier
Darcy
Reed
Iandolo
Shade
Wakeling
Williams

Morris Team in March

Brynn
Hutton
Brewitt
Blake-Tracy
Tomlinson
Khan
McEachran
Williams
Hepburn-Murphy
Austin
Wakeling

Both weren't that great in my opinion but i am not entirely sure Morris wasn't given that many tools. Whether we like him or not Lindsey for the most part had us sat in the play offswith his hands tied too

Now do the team Mad Gav had in between those two…


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, July 24, 2023, 07:47:32
It's all pretty much been summed up on here already but my personal take on last season was;

The manner in which Lindsay was appointed was a fuck up that took way longer than it needed. The whole process just dragged and dragged and then when we finally took the plunge, appointing Ben Garner's assistant was underwhelming. The malady never really went away, we were questioning a lot of what Lindsay was doing, the now infamous fatigue pre-season was pretty much laughed at. I had to revisit last season's fixtures and after the dismal 3-0 defeat at Harrogate actually got some handy results between 6th August and 29th October. P16 W8 D6 L2. After that it was pretty dismal and many had had enough of the dull football, perpetuated with Scott Lindsay's fascination with 'box entries'. We were trending downwards and I think it was the best for all that he went to Crawley.

I have to say, I was pretty excited about Jody Morris and (eventually Ed Brand). We have historically had success with these types of managers and on paper it seemed a good appointment. But as with the Lindsay appointment, sorting out Ed Brand took forever and there was never anything that felt cohesive. The way he wanted to play did not utilise our best and dangerous player - Rochdale away aside - and the season petered out boringly. I guess Morris had the tougher task in that he wasn't able to bring in the players he needed, although Mceachran was a good signing. Sandro Di Michele clearly didn't help, he was a massive downgrade on Ben Chorley.   



Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Monday, July 24, 2023, 08:00:26
Quote from: Nomoreheroes
I didn't think Lindsey was 'that bad'. I don't think we gave him much chance. I think he would have got us into the play offs, but I think we would have lost.

I personally don't agree simply because we were already on the slide when he left. But we'll never know.

I will acknowledge though that things might have got very very worrying indeed at the end of the season had he not had his golden patch up to Mansfield away


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, July 24, 2023, 08:59:48
Quote from: Nomoreheroes
I didn't think Lindsey was 'that bad'. I don't think we gave him much chance. I think he would have got us into the play offs, but I think we would have lost.
I thought the football under Lyndsey was almost as bad as under Williams TBF and for me the only worse manager in our history was Sheridan, all 3 even worse than Beamish.

The number of games under Lyndsey we dominted possession yet created nothing at all, we took no risks, no shots we just kept possession with sideways passing, it was utterly awful to watch and so boring, yet I can accept boring if it got us results, which it didn't.

Tht was evident early on in Lyndseys career vs Gills, we had nearly 80% of the possession after we were against 10 men from the 10th minute yet we created zero good chances tried walking the ball into the box rather than shooting, took no risks at all looking for that goal.

That pattern carried on in almost every game under Lyndsey bar Mansfield away.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Berniman on Monday, July 24, 2023, 09:20:43
All of this Lyndsey vs Morris discussion is pretty much irrelevant though when you take into account that Lyndsey left for a better offer, he wasn't sacked - people seem to conveniently forget that.  When Wellens did that lots of fans did, and still do hold it agaisnt him.

We would have had to replace Lyndsey anyway - on paper Morris was a shrewd replacement, the reality was different.  If we would have replaced with a Sheridan/Brown type manager, everyone would have been snapping your hands off for Morris and arming themselves with pitchforks and tiki lamps.

Let's focus on the manager that actually is in charge.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, July 24, 2023, 09:24:55
All of this Lyndsey vs Morris discussion is pretty much irrelevant though when you take into account that Lyndsey left for a better offer, he wasn't sacked - people seem to conveniently forget that.  When Wellens did that lots of fans did, and still do hold it agaisnt him.

We would have had to replace Lyndsey anyway - on paper Morris was a shrewd replacement, the reality was different.  If we would have replaced with a Sheridan/Brown type manager, everyone would have been snapping your hands off for Morris and arming themselves with pitchforks and tiki lamps.

Let's focus on the manager that actually is in charge.
100%.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Monday, July 24, 2023, 10:52:59
Morris had a much worse team than Lindsey, but then flatly refused to play in a way that maximised what he did have.  Gunning simplified it all - get the ball wide and feed Austin.  We were still not a great team, so I doubt he'd keep that record up over time, and the Gillingham first 30 minutes showed he was just as likely to fuck it all up.

Exactly this. You can be dealt a 7/2 off suit and still play it like an absolute cunt, which is what he did.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: THE FLASH on Monday, July 24, 2023, 11:00:33
I thought the football under Lyndsey was almost as bad as under Williams TBF and for me the only worse manager in our history was Sheridan, all 3 even worse than Beamish.

The number of games under Lyndsey we dominted possession yet created nothing at all, we took no risks, no shots we just kept possession with sideways passing, it was utterly awful to watch and so boring, yet I can accept boring if it got us results, which it didn't.

Tht was evident early on in Lyndseys career vs Gills, we had nearly 80% of the possession after we were against 10 men from the 10th minute yet we created zero good chances tried walking the ball into the box rather than shooting, took no risks at all looking for that goal.

That pattern carried on in almost every game under Lyndsey bar Mansfield away.

Spot on.

The Club shot itself in the foot taking weeks to appoint him and then pitol whipped itself in the face with every decision after.....

SL came out as arrogant (to me) in his pre and post match interviews, i know i would be trying to get the fans on my side and 'give me a chance' rather than ''I know all about it, ive done it all' attitude.
It was his first major role FFS....

Domination touch Football...it was shite and a tough watch..

I know you picked the Gills but for me the away game at Stevenage was the sum up, i think we had 70% of the ball , eleven shots, zero on target and lost 2 zip.




Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: JoeMezz on Monday, July 24, 2023, 11:09:32
Spot on.

The Club shot itself in the foot taking weeks to appoint him and then pitol whipped itself in the face with every decision after.....

SL came out as arrogant (to me) in his pre and post match interviews, i know i would be trying to get the fans on my side and 'give me a chance' rather than ''I know all about it, ive done it all' attitude.
It was his first major role FFS....

Domination touch Football...it was shite and a tough watch..

I know you picked the Gills but for me the away game at Stevenage was the sum up, i think we had 70% of the ball , eleven shots, zero on target and lost 2 zip.


Agreed. Especially with the arrogance, it was a "I know best" kind of stance. It was painful because the football was awful.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Tuesday, July 25, 2023, 08:54:19
Daft question incoming!

Do ST holders get in free for friendlies?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Hyabb17 on Tuesday, July 25, 2023, 09:00:46
Daft question incoming!

Do ST holders get in free for friendlies?

Nope


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Tuesday, July 25, 2023, 09:03:41
Bastards!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 25, 2023, 09:07:46
Daft question incoming!

Do ST holders get in free for friendlies?
The club havent done that since the 80s when it was common practice at STFC but back then we only had about 800 to 1,000 season ticket holders each season.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, July 27, 2023, 12:23:19
Daft question incoming!

Do ST holders get in free for friendlies?

They charge £15


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: swindonmaniac on Thursday, July 27, 2023, 12:32:01
Thought the Plymouth game was £2 ??.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, July 27, 2023, 12:42:51
Thought the Plymouth game was £2 ??.

It is, if you are under 11.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Thursday, July 27, 2023, 12:56:46
can't be arsed to start a match day thread this early. But OSC posted this about Colchester travel:

Some travel news for you ahead of the opening League Two game of the season at Colchester on the 5th of August.

The ongoing roadworks on the A12 between Marks Tey and Stanway, have seen weekend closures from the Friday night 9pm until Monday morning at 5am. This has resulted in eight mile tailbacks at its worst and a travel time of up to two hours to negotiate it ! Unfortunately the next planned closure is for Friday August 4th to Monday 7th.
 
The A12 is reduced prior to J25 Marks Tey to one lane and then traffic is routed around the Marks Tey roundabout back onto the A12. The problem is compounded by the fact that the A120 from Braintree, also has a junction at the Marks Tey roundabout and creates delays on that route.
 
Official updates can be found at National Highways : East and click on the link for A12/J25 to J26 weekend closures.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Thursday, July 27, 2023, 12:58:50
£18.25 for me ticket. Not bad.


Title: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Thursday, July 27, 2023, 13:35:25
Quote
£18.25 for me ticket. Not bad.
how you getting there aud?

supporters coach now departing 8am btw
https://twitter.com/SAS_Travel/status/1684559248532070400?t=_Rwhfzxw7mv4S_x3rQibzg&s=19


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Thursday, July 27, 2023, 14:11:48
Was going to drive, but have seen it’s a right nightmare with road closures and roadworks in the area.

A12 is closed between Marks Tey and Stanway for the weekend resulting in 8 mile tailbacks and 2 hours to negotiate.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: THE FLASH on Thursday, July 27, 2023, 14:24:33
It is, if you are under 11.

Maniac will play the OAP card!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Thursday, July 27, 2023, 15:34:20
Was going to drive, but have seen it’s a right nightmare with road closures and roadworks in the area.

A12 is closed between Marks Tey and Stanway for the weekend resulting in 8 mile tailbacks and 2 hours to negotiate.

Train wankers on strike that weekend too


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, July 27, 2023, 17:20:16
Train wankers on strike that weekend too

I think that's this coming weekend if I'm not mistaken.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Friday, July 28, 2023, 18:12:31
Take it you can POTD tomorrow?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Friday, July 28, 2023, 18:14:15
Plymouth normally travel in numbers so wouldn't be surprised if they brought a few hundred.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Friday, July 28, 2023, 18:15:32
Quote from: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey
Take it you can POTD tomorrow?

Plymouth fans can, I'd be staggered if home fans couldn't

might be card only


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Friday, July 28, 2023, 19:07:31
Plymouth fans can, I'd be staggered if home fans couldn't

might be card only

But isn’t card a form of pay on the day? Us oldies who prefer paper money should be able to get a grasp on that concept. And TBF, the club would be absolute drongo’s if they won’t take walk ups paying in whatever manner they decide to offer, beggars can’t be choosers.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Friday, July 28, 2023, 20:28:42
was just Plymouth site says it's card only for potd.

I've not bought a match ticket on the day for seasons. no idea if cash is still taken


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Friday, July 28, 2023, 20:36:46
Card is fine. Only £5 for me, £15 for Mrs Audrey is a bit steep. Might get her to not put makeup on and get in for a fiver!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Kaufman on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 08:19:40
I’m guessing there’s no ifollow feed today?
Andrew Hawes has mentioned there is commentary today on BBC wilts


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 09:39:40
I know Plymouth have their own channel, but I'm not sure they would be streaming today's game. I had a quick look at their Twitter, but I can't see any reference to today's friendly at all.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 10:14:05
https://twitter.com/Official_STFC/status/1685233149041643520?t=xNt-iMIklQxnbbcbhkB4yg&s=19

I'm no expert but the pitch doesn't look 'amazing'


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 10:17:06
https://twitter.com/Official_STFC/status/1685233149041643520?t=xNt-iMIklQxnbbcbhkB4yg&s=19

I'm no expert but the pitch doesn't look 'amazing'

Notably cropped the goal nets out of the image too...


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Mooneyraker on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 10:19:30
The halfway line isn’t anything like straight..!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 10:21:42
The halfway line isn’t anything like straight..!

Biting my lip to not do the 'obvious' gag.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Trashbat? on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 10:21:50
I was just going to say that, that is very wonky


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 10:28:04
Maybe Flynn wants to replicate the Newport cabbage patch pitch!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Qunk on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 10:33:24
At first glance I thought the seats spelled out ‘Swindoin’


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 10:46:15
I know Plymouth have their own channel, but I'm not sure they would be streaming today's game. I had a quick look at their Twitter, but I can't see any reference to today's friendly at all.

https://pasoti.co.uk/threads/will-the-swindon-game-be-televised.124298/

Going by that it would appear no coverage.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 10:50:28
https://pasoti.co.uk/threads/will-the-swindon-game-be-televised.124298/

Going by that it would appear no coverage.

It's not in my IPTV friendlies list for today.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 10:53:44
it's not being shown on TV so no surprise.

have they got the new accountant doing the line markings too?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 10:57:37
Stevie Wonder


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 10:58:04
Stevie Wonder
Robbie Fowler.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 12:31:04
Seen straighter lines than that snorted


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: bathford on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 12:47:08
Any sight of a team sheet?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 12:47:47
Not until 2pm🤔


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 12:54:05
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F2NF5XXWsAEFgiO?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 12:55:28
4 trialists, 1 of them starting, going by the formation I would think the starting trialist is a LWB.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Quagmire on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 12:56:05
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F2NF5XXWsAEFgiO?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)

We really need some CB’s, I don’t want Brewitt anywhere near the first 11.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 12:56:52
We really need some CB’s, I don’t want Brewitt anywhere near the first 11.
I agree, I am happy with him off the bench in case of emergency but I don't want to rely on him as a starter.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Quagmire on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 12:58:38
I agree, I am happy with him off the bench in case of emergency but I don't want to rely on him as a starter.

I also feel the same way about Minturn, I don’t think he’s ready yet.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 12:59:02
I also feel the same way about Minturn, I don’t think he’s ready yet.
Again I fully agree on that.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 13:01:50
Didn't Hawes say the name of the LWB trialist? I wasnt sure as I was doing something, sounded like Hayes or Bayes maybe?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 13:02:45
Hawes never mentioned the name of the LWB trialist.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Mooneyraker on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 13:04:01
Didn't Hawes say the name of the LWB trialist? I wasnt sure as I was doing something, sounded like Hayes or Bayes maybe?

Leighton Baines


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 13:06:19
From high up in the Arkells, pitch looks...ok.
The chequered cut pattern doesn't help.

The new guy will have best part of 2 weeks to do some more work on it.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 13:10:53
Is one of the triallists Jake Young?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Benzel on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 13:12:15
KKH starts for Argyle


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 13:12:42
Rivaldo is 14 I think.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Quagmire on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 13:13:55
Trialists are Jake Young, Lewis Ward, Rashawn Scott and Brooklyn Genisini.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 13:15:23
We really need some CB’s, I don’t want Brewitt anywhere near the first 11.

This. 2 or 3 needed really. Ideally one that can play RWB and CB would be lovely.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Anonymous77 on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 13:17:04
This. 2 or 3 needed really. Ideally one that can play RWB and CB would be lovely.
Genesini i believe is a RB/RWB.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 13:17:47
Trialists are Jake Young, Lewis Ward, Rashawn Scott and Brooklyn Genisini.

Cheers Quaggy.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 13:19:47
disappointing.
... but not surprising...


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 13:21:02
What's going on with Ward....hardly a trialist😆


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Cowley38 on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 13:21:20
disappointing*

* unless squad players with more to come

Not quite the quality experienced players people were wanting and expecting....


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Anonymous77 on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 13:21:47
Jake Young has two-years left on his Bradford City contract i believe.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Cowley38 on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 13:23:40
Jake Young has two-years left on his Bradford City contract i believe.

Told he could leave on a free end of last season



Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 13:26:30
Young would be very much a punt. Had a very disappointing loan spell at Barrow.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 13:31:26
they all are except ward. There is no league experience to base it off.

except ward of course. And half the fan base think he's below average! Good to have a wiser head for the young lad to bounce ideas off

Kinsella is type of profile we need, less risk all round.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 13:39:42
Fans were moaning this week that it looked like we had an experienced player in Kinsella on trial. Now moaning we don’t have experienced players in on trial today.

If the trialists are the only ones we end up signing then I totally get it but to moan about having trialists sat on the bench seems odd


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: JanAirplaneMan on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 13:40:06
Jake Young has two-years left on his Bradford City contract i believe.
He will join on loan


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Quagmire on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 13:40:45
Fans were moaning this week that it looked like we had an experienced player in Kinsella on trial. Now moaning we don’t have experienced players in on trial today.

If the trialists are the only ones we end up signing then I totally get it but to moan about having trialists sat on the bench seems odd

People need something to moan at… it’s the Swindon way.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Cowley38 on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 13:44:01
People need something to moan at… it’s the Swindon way.

Who's moaning.....stating facts...


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 13:44:48
Another Alan Young! Do we think he's the trialist that's starting? Interesting that throughout pre season the players who seem to have played LWB are very attacking players, often forwards, dropping back rather than full backs stepping forward. Probably a sign of what Flynn wants from his wing backs?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 13:51:04
Who's moaning.....stating facts...
Im talking in general and online


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: RJack on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 13:51:57
He will join on loan
Then do an Eoin Doyle to Bradford 😂


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 13:52:18
Quote from: Quagmire
People need something to moan at… it’s the Swindon way.
bollocks

they are moaning because we have a worse squad than last season with a week to go before kickoff, including in key defensive positions.

DMC - the 'if that's all we get' caveat has already been said.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Cowley38 on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 13:54:12
bollocks

they are moaning because we have a worse squad than last season with a week to go before kickoff, including in key defensive positions.

DMC - the 'if that's all we get' caveat has already been said.

 :clap:


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 13:57:56
bollocks

they are moaning because we have a worse squad than last season with a week to go before kickoff, including in key defensive positions.

DMC - the 'if that's all we get' caveat has already been said.
You carry on then Batch. I appreciate you telling me what I’m talking about as per usual

Anyway no Lavinear in the squad it seems.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Quagmire on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 13:58:33

Anyway no Lavinear in the squad it seems.

Didn’t he roll his ankle last week?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 13:59:13
Didn’t he roll his ankle last week?
Yes carrying a short term injury a couple of weeks out.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Quagmire on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 13:59:58
Yes carrying a short term injury a couple of weeks out.

Same for Shade? Though I’d hope he was one of the next out the door.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 14:00:37
Same here😀


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 14:01:43
Same for Shade? Though I’d hope he was one of the next out the door.
Shade out for longer than Lavinier, 4 to 6 weeks for Shade IIRC.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Cowley38 on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 14:02:05
You carry on then Batch. I appreciate you telling me what I’m talking about as per usual

Anyway no Lavinear in the squad it seems.

You need someone to tell you.

Usually you haven't got a clue what your talking about....




Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 14:13:34
Quote from: DMC
You carry on then Batch. I appreciate you telling me what I’m talking about as per usual

Anyway no Lavinear in the squad it seems.

at this point I haven't got a fucking clue what you are on about, so it's a bit tricky


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 14:13:43
Yeah, DMC talks rubbish.
Gets his information from his breakfast buddy. As if he knows what’s going on…


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 14:14:35
I’ll quote this for when we sign a player on loan you told us was released


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Cowley38 on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 14:16:16
I’ll quote this for when we sign a player on loan you told us was released

Again...

What the f**k are you talking about

Take more water in the alcohol mate your rambling


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 14:18:12
As Harry Hill says..

"There's only one thing for it, FIGHT!!!"


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Quagmire on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 14:18:23
Told he could leave on a free end of last season



Pretty obvious he’s on about this.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 14:19:28
Again...

What the f**k are you talking about

Take more water in the alcohol mate your rambling
let’s not turn it personal, it’s obvious.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 14:20:27
So all those that are there how are we playing because as usual its impossible to glean much from Phil Smith and Hawes commentary.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Cowley38 on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 14:20:38
Pretty obvious he’s on about this.

From a Bradford news story

'Ahead of the 2023–24 season, Young was told that he could find a new club. In July 2023, Hughes revealed that Young had rejected loan moves away from the club.'



Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 14:21:04
Or more accurately, from his Wikipedia entry (which is fine, I too hadn't heard of the guy an hour ago)


Title: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 14:21:24
I'll rephrase to try and keep it constructive.

1. if the only players we sign are the trialists it's disappointing

2. I think it fair people are moaning at the situation as it stands. it is perfectly possible we'll be rejoicing come September.

3. if we have experienced people lined up is there any reason they can't be "trialling with us today to get some games with perspective teammates?"

I can see they might not be in the team by next week, and it could be that simple, deal done so no point


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Cowley38 on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 14:22:53
let’s not turn it personal, it’s obvious.

Haha true colours coming out...

You can give it out but can't take it......



Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 14:23:33
Most pre-seasons we don't sign most of our trialists, and most of our trialists are at the lower calibre end of our signings. More Kinsellas would definitely be preferable, but I expect a few of each type.

I'm assuming nothing much is happening on the pitch for it to just be arguments in here?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 14:23:43
ah come on, frustrations boil over both ways. let's keep it as a discussion. we don't have to agree


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: UTR on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 14:25:08
Think we’ve been okay so far. Trialist has been about a 6/10


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 14:25:50
Quote from: Nemo
Most pre-seasons we don't sign most of our trialists, and most of our trialists are at the lower calibre end of our signings. More Kinsellas would definitely be preferable, but I expect a few of each type.

I get that!

more that we aren't seeing any of the Kinsella type trialing. So I was wondering why.

But like Kinsella it could be they are known and done deals subject to budget, etc.

could be insurance reasons

could be anything.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Cowley38 on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 14:26:10
ah come on, frustrations boil over both ways. let's keep it as a discussion. we don't have to agree

Apologies Batch

And apologies if I upset the delicate flower.....

I will keep posts relevant to the discussions


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 14:27:44
You know what I’ll apologise for making it personal to you both so apologies.

Anyway the game itself, it’s ok. The trialists Young looks out of his depth but it’s only a friendly, RHM looks sharp and JM in the middle looks good. Hutton looking very good, only half hour but I take back letting him good keep him


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Quagmire on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 14:29:11
You know what I’ll apologise for making it personal to you both so apologies.

Anyway the game itself, it’s ok. The trialists Young looks out of his depth but it’s only a friendly, RHM looks sharp and JM in the middle looks good. Hutton looking very good, only half hour but I take back letting him good keep him

Is it definitely Young? A few are now saying it’s not.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 14:30:14
Dean, I don't need an apology :)

Do you know if the Plymouth team is a strong one?

I'm guessing some of ours will get 90 today, others a bit more protected like Austin


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 14:31:19
Anyway the game itself, it’s ok. The trialists Young looks out of his depth but it’s only a friendly, RHM looks sharp and JM in the middle looks good. Hutton looking very good, only half hour but I take back letting him good keep him
Thanks mate.

The trialist is Genesini isnt it at LWB?

Hawes seems confused about who it is.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Cowley38 on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 14:31:31
You know what I’ll apologise for making it personal to you both so apologies.

Anyway the game itself, it’s ok. The trialists Young looks out of his depth but it’s only a friendly, RHM looks sharp and JM in the middle looks good. Hutton looking very good, only half hour but I take back letting him good keep him

It's all good, it's a forum it's all banter......




Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Quagmire on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 14:32:39
For what it’s worth, I won’t be apologising to any of you miserable, moaning cunts  ;)


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 14:33:25
good. I want the full "I told you so" when the signings are made too


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Cowley38 on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 14:33:39
For what it’s worth, I won’t be apologising to any of you miserable, moaning cunts  ;)

That's the spirit....... :beers:


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 14:36:01
99 percent sure it’s Young. The Bournemouth kiddie who does look to be warming up


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Quagmire on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 14:38:43
The Adver are saying the trialist that started is Genesini.

Edit… they’re also saying Young is on the bench?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 14:39:50
either way it's good not to have conceded, though obviously I've no idea how we are playing it sounds encouraging


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 14:40:27
The Adver are saying the trialist that started is Genesini.

I think it is, and he's playing LWB.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 14:43:31
Hawes just said its Genesini. So a right back playing LWB.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: ThreeDrawsMentality on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 14:46:18
It's definitely Genesini that's started LWB


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: LucienSanchez on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 14:47:27
Hawes just said its Genesini. So a right back playing LWB.

Of course


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 14:50:46
Quite encouraged by the first half showing.
RHM the pick probably.
FBT good. Brewitt no concerns. GM steady.
Wing backs very advanced. Main threat is Hutton.
Good energy from Kemp but would like to see him more involved on the ball.
Not much attacking wise from the LWB.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 14:51:46
cheers wobbly


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 14:52:51
I want my name changed back I don't moan anymore🤣


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 14:55:19
Few bits and pieces on twitter suggesting it's not Young.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 14:58:24
Att: 3,364 with 540 Muffs.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 14:59:33
I want my name changed back I don't moan anymore🤣

I second that TBF, others should suffer the ignominy of ‘Name of Shame’ with the bitching and bickering of certain members. It is getting tedious.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Posh Red on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 15:00:48
Att: 3,364 with about 500 Muffs.

There’s plenty of teams in L2 that would be happy with that for a league game


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 15:03:08
There’s plenty of teams in L2 that would be happy with that for a league game
I remember back in the mid 80s we would have been happy with that for a league game too!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 15:03:31
I second that TBF, others should suffer the ignominy of ‘Name of Shame’ with the bitching and bickering of certain members. It is getting tedious.
Its a fair point and noted


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Posh Red on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 15:04:53
I remember back in the mid 80s we would have been happy with that for a league game too!

That’s true


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 15:05:16
Quote from: Posh Red
Quote
Att: 3,364 with about 500 Muffs.
There’s plenty of teams in L2 that would be happy with that for a league game

fgr 3148 last year!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 15:07:44
Superb goal. Corner routine, corner to edge of the box on the corner and on volley bottom corner


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 15:08:11
I want my name changed back I don't moan anymore🤣

I got you fam


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 15:08:25
Kemp gets more involved. Cracking volley. 1-0.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 15:09:10
Kemp gets the Jeff Seal of approval in general too!

https://twitter.com/JeffStelling/status/1685060194714169344?t=JCRkzHxh_8n_T1fl0T42cQ&s=19


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 15:10:17
And another, around 20 passes great ball from Hutton, RHM holds his run scores 1 on 1


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 15:10:24
RHM nice finish. 2-0.
Hutton assist


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Quagmire on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 15:10:26
2.0 - RHM


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 15:10:35
great stuff


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Miles Mayhem on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 15:11:14
Well this is all very nice isn’t it


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 15:14:23
Att: 3,364 with about 500 Muffs.

Good turn out from Plymouth although I see Bristol City took 1800 to Pompey today which is impressive for s friendly.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 15:14:32
Quote from: Miles Mayhem
Well this is all very nice isn’t it

it is. I think going forward we were always ok with that lineup. Though breaking them down is a bonus

defensively expected us to be dodgy, sounds anything but from.the little bits I've heard


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 15:15:11
I got you fam

 :clap:


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 15:19:34
Plymouth goal. Great finish cuts in and curls it in the top corner


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Posh Red on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 15:21:05
Superb goal. Corner routine, corner to edge of the box on the corner and on volley bottom corner

Can’t be true, we never score from corners :)


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 15:23:57
Young is on now. Apologies


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Anonymous77 on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 15:28:48
Superb goal. Corner routine, corner to edge of the box on the corner and on volley bottom corner
Who got the assist?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 15:29:57
Who got the assist?

The assist maestro himself.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 15:34:25
The assist maestro himself.
Closer to an assist Allegro when defending :)


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: MangoRed on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 15:34:46
Dunno who young is but the number 9 is Lucias vine, ex Brentford B.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 15:37:26
3-1 Wakeling.

Interesting to see that they played a similar line up at FGR and beat them 5-1.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 15:37:34
Jakey


Title: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 15:39:05
wakey jakey, just to annoy you all further by calling him that

seems he's not currently first choice but a good option to have


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 15:42:11
Preseason results not important but its good to beat a Championsip side 3-1.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: molepar on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 15:42:58
How did the trialists do? Encouraging result. Hopefully no injuries picked up?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 15:45:01
Also what style of football did we play as many were worried that Flynn plays too direct🤔


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 15:46:10
Who was Trialist A who was subbed on at 90 minutes out of interest?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Broadbents Tackle on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 15:51:40
Who was Trialist A who was subbed on at 90 minutes out of interest?

Trialist A was subbed off at 90 minutes. That would have been Genesini.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 15:52:21
All trialists bar the ex reading lad did ok imo. Busy few days in and out I think coming up


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: 4D on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 15:54:18
It was only Plymouth.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 15:54:36
All trialists bar the ex reading lad did ok imo. Busy few days in and out I think coming up
Curious, what was wrong with the Reading lad? did he not give his all or look well off the pace ala Kadji?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ides of March on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 15:54:53
Enjoyed that. Plymouth’s defence was hopeless in the second half, if they defend like that often in the Championship, they’re in trouble. We looked a real threat going forward, and nice to see RHM/Wakeling score. If we can get a consistent second striker scoring, alongside Austin, we will be in business.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 15:55:00
I never pay too much attention to pre-season results, but I have to say, the first 60 against Bristol City, the first half today and all of today's game have sounded full of positives, even with what is a skeleton defence.

I reckon RHM and Charlie Austin will be a very productive partnership and I have a feeling Kemp might actually score more than Williams. Yes we still need players that I suspect we'll see this coming week, but on the pitch this pre-season has gone pretty well. What Flynn is trying to do, sounds good based on feedback from fans.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 15:56:50
Trialist A was subbed off at 90 minutes. That would have been Genesini.

Yeah I misread the arrows!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 16:01:35
How was Plymouths team? Strong? Many trialists?

Even if it wasn't that strong and they played a bit of a mix, its still pretty positive. We look like we could be dangerous going forward this season. We just need the required attention at the back and a few more bodies in other positions.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: tans on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 16:02:48
Flynn hoping for up to 3 signings on monday


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 16:07:59
Curious, what was wrong with the Reading lad? did he not give his all or look well off the pace ala Kadji?
I think the game just passed him by tbh nothing wrong as such and to be honest it's a position we don't really need. Only a short look but i think Young is worth a punt as a 4th striker. The wing back Genesemi(sp) looked a lot better after the first 25 mins which is good as he was playing on the left and seemed to be a right footer. Only issue with that is he wouldn't be needed which is why i highlighted ML being out the squad. He is a luxury we don't need if we do not play him left back which he isn't

 


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 16:09:46
well that was a nice ending to preseason.

now down to business


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 16:11:21
Enjoyed that.

Add the players in defence we know we need and i really do think we have a good team. Front 2 look sharp and the midfield looked superb to me and Kinsella will add to that too.

Kemp looks quality, i am not going to worry about the whole loan thing as it can only mean he is doing well if he is recalled and lets face it in this division under contract players will be off in Jan if they do well too.

Have to say Hutton was really good today and looked better out of position too, if Flynn is starting to instill a defensive part to his game then i take it all back



Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 16:18:22
Flynn hoping for up to 3 signings on monday

That would be nice, although Flynn suggesting we're going to make a signing so far has generally been a clear signal that there won't be one!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 16:22:25
That would be nice, although Flynn suggesting we're going to make a signing so far has generally been a clear signal that there won't be one!

Not his fault they'll drag the announcements out for no good reason.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 16:24:24
A day is a long time in Football......at Swindon Town😀 How quickly things change now we're all mildly optimistic for the coming season!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 16:28:13
Sorry been at a kids birthday party with no phone signal.

Who got the goals?
Did Plymouth put out a full team?
Did Kinsella play? How did he do?
Any decent trialists?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: adje on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 16:40:47
This'll upset the "relegation certs" Facebook crowd


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 16:45:41
Also what style of football did we play as many were worried that Flynn plays too direct🤔

Still geared up for playing it out from the back.
Did it ok today & kept possession well overall.

Key difference from last season will be 2 words I suspect, "with purpose".


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 16:47:38
Still geared up for playing it out from the back.
Did it ok today & kept possession well overall.

Key difference from last season will be 2 words I suspect, "with purpose".

Cheers Bob, at least things sound promising at long last.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 16:48:10
Also what style of football did we play as many were worried that Flynn plays too direct🤔

The best kind.
Winning football.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 16:51:12
The best kind.
Winning football.

This.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 16:53:14
Definetly mixed it up well and cleared the decks when we have to. I was really more impressed with the Austin RHM link up


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 16:53:57
Enjoyed that.
Two most pleasing things were the covering from midfield & GM in particular did that very well.
Also the chance creation, second half in particular & 2 or 3 bodies in the box waiting for the cross.

Maybe no need to fret so much about Hutton's defensive frailties as the wing backs won't be playing as defenders.
Yeah, they will need to gallop back into position on occasion & will have a job to do in shape when the opponents are in possession.
We'll see.



Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 16:54:15
Like, if you ever leave a Town game after we’ve won disappointed because the football wasn’t ‘good’ or ‘entertaining’ you’re a wrong’un


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 16:55:54
Enjoyed that.
Two most pleasing things were the covering from midfield & GM in particular did that very well.
Also the chance creation, second half in particular & 2 or 3 bodies in the box waiting for the cross.

Maybe no need to fret so much about Hutton's defensive frailties as the wing backs won't be playing as defenders.
Yeah, they will need to gallop back into position on occasion & will have a job to do in shape when the opponents are in possession.
We'll see.


I thought the same Wobbly regarding the wing backs. Midfield dropped and the defenders covered well


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 16:56:05
The best kind.
Winning football.

Spot on any type of football will do if it gets us out of league2


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 17:20:52
Well, that was encouraging - very encouraging. Probably not a popular opinion but I thought Brewitt did really well today. I liked the look of the keeper who didn’t have much to do but he was confident with good decision making. In contrast, their keeper was a tad dodgy with erratic distribution - they’ll need better than him in the Championship.

We had 2-3 first class chances apart from the goals too. A Walsall fan described Kinsella a ‘ratter’ - perfect description.

No idea who the No. 9 was when he came on.

My biggest take from the game was the number of tackles and interceptions made in midfield. Lordy, Lordy!

On to Colchester!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 17:55:34
Well, that was encouraging - very encouraging. Probably not a popular opinion but I thought Brewitt did really well today. I liked the look of the keeper who didn’t have much to do but he was confident with good decision making. In contrast, their keeper was a tad dodgy with erratic distribution - they’ll need better than him in the Championship.

We had 2-3 first class chances apart from the goals too. A Walsall fan described Kinsella a ‘ratter’ - perfect description.

No idea who the No. 9 was when he came on.

My biggest take from the game was the number of tackles and interceptions made in midfield. Lordy, Lordy!

On to Colchester!

Indeed if fan noise sells tickets we should have a few more at Colchester now.
I was impressed today, thought Minturn was very good at the back cleared one of the line acrobat style put in some good tackles distribution some good some not so. Brewiit coupe of errors but tackling and blocking was very good.
Of the starting 11 I think Khan was the weak link but did some good bits.
We won't be far outside the playoffs with this side as is, could even flirt with thwm, a couple of signings and wet will be in the mix.
I thorougjy enjoyed that.
We were sat behind a couple of Plymouth fans who said that was a fairly strong team and won't be far off their starting 11 so make of that what you will.
They were very complimentary about us going forward and asked if RHM is related to Linford Christie. "fuck that boy is quick"
Seeing that should put some minds at rest mine included were not as bad as we think.
Kemp is very good, Kinsella for his late cameo got stuck in and won the ball a number of times, 14 the guy from Bournemouth?? Grew into thw game and was ok.
If you can't tell I'm just home having a beer pretty pleased with that.
See you at Colchester 👍👍


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Sippo on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 18:18:00
My boy was mascot today. Absolutely loved it. Hats off to Rachel at the club, brilliant hostess who was very good with the kids. The package was £150 and thought that price was ideal. Got a tour and all that jazz, photo with Mr Flynn and got his football signed. Full kit etc. Food was good, kids got chicken nuggets and chips. Is it worth the £250 for a league game, definitely not in my opinion. Just not value for money at that price. Shame as some kids will miss out due to that price.

Flynn was very approachable and cracking personality. Concerned about wages and budget, but hoping to get three in next week. Saw one player pass me in the corridors going in for medical. He watched first half but not second. Flynn thinks there are 10 clubs better off than us, he's jealous. We had a few targets about to sign, but they moved elsewhere due to wages.

As for the game, Plymouth didn't look like a championship side. We battled. 3 at the back worked. RHM had a great game and I thought he deserved it. Midfield 3 were good, not sure where Kinsella will fit. Hard to drop any of those today. Kemp just bossed everything.

Still not happy with CA. He looked like he didn't want to be there. Hardly keen in the warm up. Off side quite often, too many fancy flicks. He reminds me off Harry McKirdy after his first season. I want him to prove me wrong.

Overall a great day though.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 18:32:14
How did Kaine Kesler-Hayden play for Plymouth as he hasn't been mentioned.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 18:53:26
Didn’t really notice him tbh.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 18:56:25
Cheers Aud, I'm guessing his career has stagnated rather than excelled since leaving us.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Ticker45 on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 19:26:00
Just read through the thread regarding today’s game and like many of us that were there  I was very happy with the performance all round. From the kick-off PA looked sharp and slightly quicker which was to be expected but it did not take long to show the work rate and effort that all sides need to become a good side was evident in spades from the Town. Turning what I saw today into week in week out performances might be difficult to do consistently over forty six league games but it augers far better than I was expecting. As ever, come October and we will have a better idea of where we are in the great scheme of things.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Anonymous77 on Saturday, July 29, 2023, 19:32:10
Indeed if fan noise sells tickets we should have a few more at Colchester now.
I was impressed today, thought Minturn was very good at the back cleared one of the line acrobat style put in some good tackles distribution some good some not so. Brewiit coupe of errors but tackling and blocking was very good.
Of the starting 11 I think Khan was the weak link but did some good bits.
We won't be far outside the playoffs with this side as is, could even flirt with thwm, a couple of signings and wet will be in the mix.
I thorougjy enjoyed that.
We were sat behind a couple of Plymouth fans who said that was a fairly strong team and won't be far off their starting 11 so make of that what you will.
They were very complimentary about us going forward and asked if RHM is related to Linford Christie. "fuck that boy is quick"
Seeing that should put some minds at rest mine included were not as bad as we think.
Kemp is very good, Kinsella for his late cameo got stuck in and won the ball a number of times, 14 the guy from Bournemouth?? Grew into thw game and was ok.
If you can't tell I'm just home having a beer pretty pleased with that.
See you at Colchester 👍👍

Regarding Khan, i’d assume Kinsella could take his spot once up to full fitness.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Sunday, July 30, 2023, 07:18:57
Catching up this morning.....Flynn post match interview:
- Wish it was a league game as we were exceptional!
- Slow first 20 mins.
- Stuck to our game plan
- Shown that is the minimum Flynn expects from them
- Stuck to roles and responsibility and patterns of play
- They were brave in the final third
- Overall attitude and application was what Flynn wants
- Used up a set play
- Have more in the tank for set plays. Hatfield is one of the best at that and has worked hard with them on this aspect
- Dan Kemp could have had a hattrick
- Told Minturn that this is the level he has to perform at. Has had words with him in the past as wasn't happy. Now needs to show this level and be consistent
- Lavinier: 'Erm? Don't know what I'm supposed to say? (Someone says something in the background) Yeah, he's injured! We'll be looking at that over the weekend. It might not be as bad as we thought. Looking at a second opinion'
- Kinsella: Tenacious. Wholehearted. Gives us something we haven't got
- Close on signings. Could be up to 3 signings on Monday. That won't be us finished.
- Said we have been close before, but unfortunately just lost out on them.
- Signings will add quality to the squad. Wont sign players for the sake of it. Want to strengthen the group
- Been frustrating. Haven't been off the phone for a month
- Had to freshen the squad.
- Offer from Crawley for Darcy that was acceptable for the club (Said nowt about Adeloye)
- Will be 'happier' if the 3 do sign
- Ward: Won't say anything about trialists and when Hawes said the trial has been going on since last season, Flynn testily said it hasn't been going on that long as he hadn't been here long. Just cos another manager had an opinion doesnt mean Flynn has the same.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Sunday, July 30, 2023, 07:42:16
Plymouth fans saying they didn’t cope well with our physicality.

That’s a first!


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Sunday, July 30, 2023, 08:04:36
Catching up this morning.....Flynn post match interview:
- Wish it was a league game as we were exceptional!
- Slow first 20 mins.
- Stuck to our game plan
- Shown that is the minimum Flynn expects from them
- Stuck to roles and responsibility and patterns of play
- They were brave in the final third
- Overall attitude and application was what Flynn wants
- Used up a set play
- Have more in the tank for set plays. Hatfield is one of the best at that and has worked hard with them on this aspect
- Dan Kemp could have had a hattrick
- Told Minturn that this is the level he has to perform at. Has had words with him in the past as wasn't happy. Now needs to show this level and be consistent
- Lavinier: 'Erm? Don't know what I'm supposed to say? (Someone says something in the background) Yeah, he's injured! We'll be looking at that over the weekend. It might not be as bad as we thought. Looking at a second opinion'
- Kinsella: Tenacious. Wholehearted. Gives us something we haven't got
- Close on signings. Could be up to 3 signings on Monday. That won't be us finished.
- Said we have been close before, but unfortunately just lost out on them.
- Signings will add quality to the squad. Wont sign players for the sake of it. Want to strengthen the group
- Been frustrating. Haven't been off the phone for a month
- Had to freshen the squad.
- Offer from Crawley for Darcy that was acceptable for the club (Said nowt about Adeloye)
- Will be 'happier' if the 3 do sign
- Ward: Won't say anything about trialists and when Hawes said the trial has been going on since last season, Flynn testily said it hasn't been going on that long as he hadn't been here long. Just cos another manager had an opinion doesnt mean Flynn has the same.
Cheers NMH just listened back. Glad he added the 'that won't be us finished' to the 3 signings


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Pericardinho on Sunday, July 30, 2023, 08:10:26
Cheers Aud, I'm guessing his career has stagnated rather than excelled since leaving us.

Egbo was a huge upgrade at the time.

KKH certainly has a much higher ceiling, but most of his good stuff for us was inside his own half. Nutmegs, dragbacks etc. Never really did much in the final third. Perhaps he'd of kicked on if he wasn't recalled.

Surprised to see him in the championship to be honest. Think Plymouth may struggle.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Sunday, July 30, 2023, 08:43:18
Egbo was a huge upgrade at the time.

KKH certainly has a much higher ceiling, but most of his good stuff for us was inside his own half. Nutmegs, dragbacks etc. Never really did much in the final third. Perhaps he'd of kicked on if he wasn't recalled.

Surprised to see him in the championship to be honest. Think Plymouth may struggle.

Said the same yesterday, no doubt KKH is a very good player but is the championship a step too far too quickly?
I thought going forward Plymouth looked good, quick passes, good triangles but we closed down so much quicker than of late. Didn't give them time to chose what to do with it and stand off.
They do need to sort the defense out because the championship will carve them open time and time again.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Sunday, July 30, 2023, 09:06:45
Noticeable yesterday that the huge spaces between defence and attack that saw the opposition swarm all over us regularly last season was absent.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Sunday, July 30, 2023, 10:03:00
Quote from: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey
Noticeable yesterday that the huge spaces between defence and attack that saw the opposition swarm all over us regularly last season was absent.

now that is good to hear.

And we conceded late but didn't fall apart and lose!

friendly Batch, it's only a friendly. Remember the dossevi rule...


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Sunday, July 30, 2023, 11:39:59

friendly Batch, it's only a friendly. Remember the dossevi rule...


You do okay to remember, a good win makes life easier but always have in mind the ancient and cursed Dossevi scriptures :D



Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: molepar on Sunday, July 30, 2023, 11:50:46
What was the attendance yesterday?


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Sunday, July 30, 2023, 12:00:42
3364


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Sunday, July 30, 2023, 12:03:38
Approx 500 Plymouth


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, July 30, 2023, 12:05:59
What was the attendance yesterday?

Att: 3,364 with 540 Muffs.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: molepar on Sunday, July 30, 2023, 12:07:39
Not too bad, decent following from Argyle then. Hopefully a good result next weekend will see us have a healthy crowd vs Crewe.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Berniman on Sunday, July 30, 2023, 12:08:36
What a difference 48hrs makes..


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: molepar on Sunday, July 30, 2023, 12:10:41
What a difference 48hrs makes..
Could be even more of a difference come close of play tomorrow with 3 more bodies in.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: The King of Tonga on Sunday, July 30, 2023, 12:36:30
I put £50 on dosseivi to be top scorer after "that game"


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Saxondale on Sunday, July 30, 2023, 12:55:52
Lower league Thierry Henry was my prediction.

I was wrong.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Sunday, July 30, 2023, 16:01:00
Quote from: Berniman
What a difference 48hrs makes..

it's not yet changed my opinion of the season and recruitment if that helps ,:)


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Posh Red on Sunday, July 30, 2023, 16:14:02
it's not yet changed my opinion of the season and recruitment if that helps ,:)

If the 3 signings on Monday do materialise, with the fact Flynn saying that’s not the end of the signings I’ll be a bit more optimistic.

However, we’ve had the signing imminent message before


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Batch on Sunday, July 30, 2023, 16:33:13
I think he must be close to say Monday.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Sunday, July 30, 2023, 16:42:44
Pretty sure he had his medical yesterday so fingers crossed it is done


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Audrey on Monday, July 31, 2023, 07:39:30
33/1 on Skybet. I’ve already included STFC in my pre season acca @ 28/1. Might have to have a dabble at 33/1 as well.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, July 31, 2023, 09:30:43
Pretty sure he had his medical yesterday so fingers crossed it is done
FGR forum saying "Dokes" had his medical at Swindon after the game on Saturday and that Lavinier is the makeweight in the deal.

I dont want to lose Lavinier as I think he has loads of potential, saying that if we get a 50% sell on fee then it will be all good. Could be why we are looking at Genesini too as RWB backup for Hutton.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DMC on Monday, July 31, 2023, 10:13:24
FGR forum saying "Dokes" had his medical at Swindon after the game on Saturday and that Lavinier is the makeweight in the deal.

I dont want to lose Lavinier as I think he has loads of potential, saying that if we get a 50% sell on fee then it will be all good. Could be why we are looking at Genesini too as RWB backup for Hutton.
If Hutton stays it does make sense to me as his nothing but a right sided player in my opinion, a good one though. Just think he is a bit of a luxury when on the bench and also a bit poor if on the left


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: DV on Monday, July 31, 2023, 10:15:54
I wouldn’t say he was poor on the left but he’s clearly a right sided player playing on the opposite side to fill a need.

He couldn’t be first choice for the left side but he’s capable doing a job there - which is still more than some. Including (currently) our only LWB.


Title: Re: Preseason 23/24
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, July 31, 2023, 10:20:53
If Hutton stays it does make sense to me as his nothing but a right sided player in my opinion, a good one though. Just think he is a bit of a luxury when on the bench and also a bit poor if on the left
I wouldnt want Hutton on the left again, his natural cross is outswinging which Charlie loves, an inswinging cross from the left with a right foot is much harder for Charlie to attack.

I would like the Genesini lad to come in as backup but I personally still feel we need a proper left footed LWB if we are going to persist with wingback, I am not a fan of playing Hutton/Lavinier/Hunt there as we have done in recent years.

That said, I would be happy if FBT went back to LWB if we got decent CB options signed.