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Title: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Batch on Friday, July 1, 2022, 09:46:02
Another season another sacking frenzy incoming


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 2, 2022, 20:15:33
Lee Bowyer gone as head coach of Birmingham


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Saturday, July 2, 2022, 20:22:32
Lee Bowyer gone as head coach of Birmingham

Could go back to Charl….wait…


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 2, 2022, 20:38:05
Not until Christmas ;)


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Batch on Sunday, July 3, 2022, 17:51:15
Birmingham City have appointed John Eustace as their new head coach.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Sunday, July 3, 2022, 17:53:24
Not far to travel from his previous club


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, July 3, 2022, 17:54:17
Birmingham City have appointed John Eustace as their new head coach.
What? In a matter of days? Madness!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Sunday, July 3, 2022, 17:55:31
Probably on a fraction of Bowyers wages


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Batch on Thursday, August 18, 2022, 14:46:48
And we're off..

https://www.rochdaleafc.co.uk/news/2022/august/clubstatement/

Obviously just before our game. Why wouldn't it be


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Thursday, August 18, 2022, 14:49:43
New manager bounce I may have to change my 2-0 home win score prediction🤣


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, August 18, 2022, 15:35:05
And we're off..

https://www.rochdaleafc.co.uk/news/2022/august/clubstatement/

Obviously just before our game. Why wouldn't it be

Oh hell.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Hyabb17 on Thursday, August 18, 2022, 15:37:57
Ready made excuse for Saturday now.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: adje on Saturday, August 20, 2022, 09:02:09
New manager bounce I may have to change my 2-0 home win score prediction🤣
What happened to our "new manager bounce"?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Saturday, August 20, 2022, 09:08:31
They only happen to other teams, we don't have them...


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: adje on Saturday, August 20, 2022, 09:12:58
They only happen to other teams, we don't have them...
True enough!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Saturday, August 20, 2022, 09:42:05
What happened to our "new manager bounce"?

We had that last season don't be greedy😀


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Saturday, August 20, 2022, 15:58:44
Rochdale was more of a new manager splat.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: RobertT on Saturday, August 20, 2022, 15:59:37
Rochdale was more of a new manager splat.

You'd avoid taking that job for any reason other than a need for money to pay your bills.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: oxonrobin on Saturday, August 20, 2022, 16:05:24
You'd avoid taking that job for any reason other than a need for money to pay your bills.

A free hit I guess? Hard to see anything other than a relegation on the CV for whoever takes it on.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: RobertT on Saturday, August 20, 2022, 16:06:53
Rochdale amaze me - they always seem to be a poor team whenever we play them at home, yet they bob around at this level easily enough.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Saturday, August 20, 2022, 16:07:11
A free hit I guess? Hard to see anything other than a relegation on the CV for whoever takes it on.

Too early in the season for a free hit I’d have thought.

If it was March I’d agree


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: oxonrobin on Saturday, August 20, 2022, 16:08:13
Might be March before anyone says yes


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, August 27, 2022, 07:16:18
Jim Bentley set to become Rochdale’s new manager.

Strange one up at Sunderland. Alex Neil has resigned to join Stoke.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Bedford Red on Saturday, August 27, 2022, 08:11:18

Strange one up at Sunderland. Alex Neil has resigned to join Stoke.

Yeah, i saw that yesterday. Not sure what the draw is about the Stoke job that's enticed him from Sunderland. I would have thought he's got more chance of success at Sunderland than Stoke.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Quagmire on Saturday, August 27, 2022, 08:30:02
He was only on a 12 month rolling contract at Sunderland.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, August 27, 2022, 09:41:31
Sunderland managers job has always been a poison chalice.

Massive club with a huge fanbase and great history languishing well below the level they should be at and the level the fans expect, paying large wages and a huge squad has hindered them rather than helping them on the pitch it seems.

Not many managers with the balls to take that job I would think.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Saturday, August 27, 2022, 13:00:43
Dyche might fancy it.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, August 27, 2022, 13:03:37
Dyche might fancy it.
If they throw enough money at him then maybe, tough crowd to please though them Mackems.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Saturday, August 27, 2022, 13:06:03
If they throw enough money at him then maybe, tough crowd to please though them Mackems.

He's the bookies favourite so it will be interesting to see how ambitious Sunderland really are.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, August 30, 2022, 07:35:57
Scott Parker gone from Bournemouth


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, August 30, 2022, 07:37:49
I mean sure they’ve won 1 and lost 3 but their fixtures have been Villa, Man City, Arsenal & Liverpool ffs

Not many other teams in the league are going to come out of those 4 fixtures with more than 3 points.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Tuesday, August 30, 2022, 07:55:03
Quote
AFC Bournemouth can announce that the club has parted company with head coach Scott Parker.
Maxim Demin said: “I would like to place on record my gratitude to Scott and his team for their efforts during their time with us. Our promotion back to the Premier League last season under his tenure will always be remembered as one of the most successful seasons in our history.
“However, in order for us to keep progressing as a team and a Club as a whole, it is unconditional that we are aligned in our strategy to run the club sustainably. We must also show belief in and respect for one another. That is the approach that has brought this club so much success in recent history, and one that we will not veer from now. Our search for a new head coach will begin immediately.”
Gary O’Neil will take interim charge of the team, and will be assisted by Shaun Cooper and Tommy Elphick.

The sustainability bit in that statement is gold.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: adje on Tuesday, August 30, 2022, 08:15:23
When they inevitably go down,who better than Parker to get em back up?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Robinz on Tuesday, August 30, 2022, 08:18:43
Parker will come to Swindon


As owner with his pay off........................


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Tuesday, August 30, 2022, 08:53:08
When they inevitably go down,who better than Parker to get em back up?

Wonder if Dyche will turn up there


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, August 30, 2022, 08:55:20
Very harsh on Parker but I know a couple of Bournemouth fans and they didnt like his style of play even last season when they so nearly won the league title, seems very knee jerk though as stated above look at the teams they have played.

Must be more to it than just Saturdays result, loads of muff fans were very upset at his comments post game and general complaining over the last month and that seems to have been the tipping point for the owner too.

Got Sean Dyche written all over it for the job.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, August 30, 2022, 09:11:01
I fucking hate Bournemouth.

That’s all.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, August 30, 2022, 09:22:07
I fucking hate Bournemouth.

That’s all.
I’m with you on that. Thought it might dissipate a bit when Head Boy left for Newcastle with his smug ‘hit me with a shovel’ face.

But no.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, August 30, 2022, 09:24:54
I fucking hate them too, no sympathy at all for them.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: wazzared on Tuesday, August 30, 2022, 09:42:55
Fairy tale   :)


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, August 30, 2022, 11:17:49
Their statement reads like Parker was getting tetchy about not being able to Notts Forest it.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, August 30, 2022, 11:22:28
They need to get back to league 1 where they belong😀


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Tuesday, August 30, 2022, 11:40:50
They need to get back to league 2 where they belong😀

Get it right Jimmy.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, August 30, 2022, 11:50:08
Get it right Jimmy.

That's magic😀
I was banking on us being in league 1 in a couple of years as it's a decent away day!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: adje on Tuesday, August 30, 2022, 11:51:47
I fucking hate Bournemouth.

That’s all.
Me too. Remember them with their begging buckets a few years back. Fuck em


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Honkytonk on Tuesday, August 30, 2022, 19:27:23
Dyche might fancy it.

Fingers crossed for a motivational WAV file from him.

Bournemouth still owe me the quid I gave them back when the buckets were out. Sustainable my Harris.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Tuesday, August 30, 2022, 21:18:25
Tony Mowbray gets the Sunderland job


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Wednesday, September 7, 2022, 08:46:35
Tuchel sacked from Chelsea


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, September 7, 2022, 08:47:23
Tuchel sacked from Chelsea

Goodness me.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, September 7, 2022, 08:53:28
Tuchel sacked from Chelsea

Give it to McKirdy until the end of the season!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, September 7, 2022, 09:09:24
Tuchel sacked from Chelsea

Wow.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Bewster on Wednesday, September 7, 2022, 09:16:31
Give it to McKirdy until the end of the season!

Give it to SL til the end of the season


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, September 7, 2022, 11:26:38
Tuchel sacked from Chelsea

I’d take him down here tbf


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, September 7, 2022, 11:28:50
Potter linked..

(Chelsea that is )


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, September 7, 2022, 12:28:04
Potter linked..

(Chelsea that is )

That has calamity written all over it. A long-term approach, systems manager working for a club that want success yesterday and have an itchy trigger finger.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: NotHarryAgombar on Wednesday, September 7, 2022, 12:33:51
Itchy trigger finger - same as some STFC fans….


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, September 7, 2022, 12:35:38
Itchy trigger finger - same as some STFC fans….

Same as many football fans at every club. Much more of a problem when it's the owners and decision makers who don't really have a plan, just react to events as they happen.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Riddick on Wednesday, September 7, 2022, 12:36:00
That has calamity written all over it. A long-term approach, systems manager working for a club that want success yesterday and have an itchy trigger finger.

For who? Not for Potter. Brighton have a ceiling in the premier league and even if Potter fails at Chelsea, the majority of the blame will be on the club and players, given how they treat all managers. You don't often get offered a job at that level of club. He could get sacked from Chelsea and still get the England job for example, and make bank while at it.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: singingiiiffy on Wednesday, September 7, 2022, 13:04:23
Itchy trigger finger - same as some STFC fans….
question. has a swindon manager in say the last 20-30 years ever managed to turn a club/fans views around?

di canio had a rough start but always the fans on board.

I always feel like the club hold on to people for too long but its a fine line. Barton could very easily have been sacked by December last year but turned it round. I never really see this at swindon. it's either all good or all shit. never really fluctuates from shit to good for us and most sackings are justified.

I so want lindsey to do good as all of our managers. this bad vibe from day 1 and the season is playing out in the same style


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Frigby Daser on Wednesday, September 7, 2022, 19:38:52
I’d say 2 of the last 3. Wellens and Garner. Both came with the same “cheap option” concerns.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Pookemon on Thursday, September 8, 2022, 06:49:29
I’d say 2 of the last 3. Wellens and Garner. Both came with the same “cheap option” concerns.

Both by winning games early although Garner was always going to be given some slack given the shitshow he took over.

Any manager not winning games for a team expected to be challenging is going to be under pressure. If they have been good elsewhere or a played to a decent level it will give them a bit more time, or a window if taking over mid season.   


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: 4D on Thursday, September 8, 2022, 07:18:48
I see some of the Charlton fans are moaning about Garnerball already. Best wait until the home winter games  :)


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DMC on Thursday, September 8, 2022, 08:46:26
Both by winning games early although Garner was always going to be given some slack given the shitshow he took over.

Any manager not winning games for a team expected to be challenging is going to be under pressure. If they have been good elsewhere or a played to a decent level it will give them a bit more time, or a window if taking over mid season.   
To be fair i am sure Wellens lost 4 out of his first 6 games including his first 3 at home. He has been on a hiding to nothing from the minute he got the job.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, September 8, 2022, 08:54:11
To be fair i am sure Wellens lost 4 out of his first 6 games including his first 3 at home. He has been on a hiding to nothing from the minute he got the job.
Wellens first 8 games we only suffered 2 defeats LWWWLDDD 1 home to Carlisle and away at Grimsby. 3 defeats if you count the FA cup home game.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Batch on Thursday, September 8, 2022, 09:44:19
Bloody hell, COVID and lockdowns has really screwed with my sense of time.

I already forgot Wellens came in during November *2018*, straight after Brown, and that the good season wasn't until the season after.



Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DMC on Thursday, September 8, 2022, 15:06:06
Wellens first 8 games we only suffered 2 defeats LWWWLDDD 1 home to Carlisle and away at Grimsby. 3 defeats if you count the FA cup home game.
Of course, i was looking at Browns the season before


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 09:13:57
Danny Schofield gone from 'Uddersfield


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: oxonrobin on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 18:02:17
Decisive from Huddersfield. Early, but makes more sense than the 2 high profile Prem sackings so far. If Swindon were stuck on 4 points would SL still be here?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: swindonmaniac on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 18:06:06
Decisive from Huddersfield. Early, but makes more sense than the 2 high profile Prem sackings so far. If Swindon were stuck on 4 points would SL still be here?
Yes.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, September 15, 2022, 14:19:02
Sheridactyl gone from Oldham


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Thursday, September 15, 2022, 14:20:51
The Magic has worn off😀


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, September 15, 2022, 14:59:11
Sheridactyl gone from Oldham

They'll probably cut out the middle man and get him in to replace himself.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Thursday, September 15, 2022, 16:37:08
Some shezurrection


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Sunday, September 18, 2022, 12:53:17
Steve Morison sacked at Cardiff


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, September 18, 2022, 13:55:54
Hartley hares it from Hartlepool


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: ibelieveinmrreeves on Sunday, September 18, 2022, 14:35:30
Steve Morison sacked by Cardiff too.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Oldwembley69 on Sunday, September 18, 2022, 17:25:56
Busy weekend, Wayne Brown shown the door at Colchester!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, September 19, 2022, 03:56:19
Keith Curle gets the Hartlepool gig.

I thought appointments took 6 weeks


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: ibelieveinmrreeves on Monday, September 19, 2022, 07:04:34
Wait six weeks or take Keith Curle - what's your preference?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, September 19, 2022, 09:05:23
Wait six weeks or take Keith Curle - what's your preference?
6 weeks every time!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Batch on Monday, September 19, 2022, 09:14:13
To be fair while we bungled our appointment, to take 6 weeks after actually sacking a manager would be worse


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, September 19, 2022, 09:44:14
To be fair while we bungled our appointment, to take 6 weeks after actually sacking a manager would be worse
Indeed but if they waited 6 weeks and then STILL appointed Curle would be way worse!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Posh Red on Monday, September 19, 2022, 12:37:32
To be fair while we bungled our appointment, to take 6 weeks after actually sacking a manager would be worse

To be fair though, when we were trying to get a new manager I'm guessing a lot of the candidates were on their holidays as it was off-season


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Monday, September 19, 2022, 13:20:10
Not sure that it can be said with any certainty that the appointment was bungled.

Presumably people on here have been subject to an internal promotion at work?
What happens,
a) take whatever package is on the table,
b) insist on the market rate or pay parity with the previous post holder.
c) Take less but negotiate with a view to regular performance related reviews for example.

Options b & c could take some time & try the employers patience depending on how keen they are.

Once in post do people then view themselves as the cheap option?
Probably not, more likely as entirely deserving of the promotion.


Title: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycli
Post by: Batch on Monday, September 19, 2022, 13:31:11
Bungled may be the wrong word.

I don't think he was first choice, but that doesn't really matter


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Monday, September 19, 2022, 13:52:49
To be fair though, when we were trying to get a new manager I'm guessing a lot of the candidates were on their holidays as it was off-season

With their agents?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: RobertT on Monday, September 19, 2022, 14:08:10
Not sure that it can be said with any certainty that the appointment was bungled.

Presumably people on here have been subject to an internal promotion at work?
What happens,
a) take whatever package is on the table,
b) insist on the market rate or pay parity with the previous post holder.
c) Take less but negotiate with a view to regular performance related reviews for example.

Options b & c could take some time & try the employers patience depending on how keen they are.

Once in post do people then view themselves as the cheap option?
Probably not, more likely as entirely deserving of the promotion.

I am sure there some empirical evidence to prove me wrong, but in my experience, internal promotions are indeed often much less costly than recruiting externally and generally quite swift to conclusion.  People have far less of a tendency to negotiate with their existing employer and to recruit externally you have two cost factors - first the recruitment costs themselves, and second, the fact you generally have to entice people away from secure employment and you pay a premium to take existing experience (you don't generally recruit someone who is more junior when doing so externally, so there is a bigger salary premium than taking an internal hire who is stepping up).


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Monday, September 19, 2022, 14:30:50
I am sure there some empirical evidence to prove me wrong, but in my experience, internal promotions are indeed often much less costly than recruiting externally and generally quite swift to conclusion.  People have far less of a tendency to negotiate with their existing employer and to recruit externally you have two cost factors - first the recruitment costs themselves, and second, the fact you generally have to entice people away from secure employment and you pay a premium to take existing experience (you don't generally recruit someone who is more junior when doing so externally, so there is a bigger salary premium than taking an internal hire who is stepping up).

Aye, my own experience was effectively ending up taking on two jobs, saving the employer a packet in the process.
Probably common practice at the time.
Out of the employment ladder loop for about 7 years with being self employed. Much better work / life balance as a result.

So yeah, SL may well have worked out as the cheaper option. He may yet prove to be successful.
Don't think that the cheap option appointment should be used as a stck to beat the club with whenever the scenario arises.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: RobertT on Monday, September 19, 2022, 15:40:34
Indeed, I have been the "cheap" option a few times I imagine, but think I have done OK!


Title: Re: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, September 20, 2022, 06:19:13
Hartley hares it from Hartlepool
Only got their pool left?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, September 20, 2022, 21:24:19
I see David Unsworth has taken the Oldham gig, Francis Jeffers as assistant.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: THE FLASH on Wednesday, September 21, 2022, 16:01:48
Derby looking for another Manager!

Rosenior gone.

Lost three of twelve games played. EEk!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Wednesday, September 21, 2022, 16:07:42
Derby looking for another Manager!

Rosenior gone.

Lost three of twelve games played. EEk!

Staying on the coaching staff. They are after Paul Warne


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, September 21, 2022, 16:09:33
Pretty sure he won't go, and good on them for for sticking with him considering how trigger happy modern football is, but Howe is getting a pretty easy ride at Newcastle considering the start they have had (very similar to ours until we won the last couple and the vultures were circling Lindsey in the stands) and the cash they have spent.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, September 21, 2022, 17:00:16
Pretty sure he won't go, and good on them for for sticking with him considering how trigger happy modern football is, but Howe is getting a pretty easy ride at Newcastle considering the start they have had (very similar to ours until we won the last couple and the vultures were circling Lindsey in the stands) and the cash they have spent.

Howe’s overall record there is 15/10/11 from 36 games.
If you put that into a full season that’s 55 points (would have seen them finish 8th in last seasons table) but with two games left. Meaning they could have finished 6/7/8th.

I expect they’d take something like this season.

Plus, I could be wrong but I expect the Geordies have bit more patience that our fanbase


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Abrahammer on Wednesday, September 21, 2022, 17:06:10
Can’t see Howe going yet. He is there for the initial transition period of big spending, when they are ready to really push on to a top 6 spot they will go for the real “big name” to help attract top calibre players

He did a cracking job last season with a very average squad (2 or 3 players being the exception)


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Ginginho on Monday, September 26, 2022, 11:59:44
Rob Edwards has been sacked as Watford manager after just 10 games in charge.

Slaven Bilic taking over, apparently.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Nemo on Monday, September 26, 2022, 12:05:06
Rob Edwards has been sacked as Watford manager after just 10 games in charge.

Slaven Bilic taking over, apparently.

Dale Vince will be laughing himself into a hernia.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Batch on Monday, September 26, 2022, 12:06:57
Dale Vince will be laughing himself into a hernia.

Or will be on the phone to him PDQ.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Ginginho on Monday, September 26, 2022, 12:07:33
Dale Vince will be laughing himself into a hernia.

I bet he'd take him back in a heartbeat however. Might happen yet looking at FGR's start to the season!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, September 26, 2022, 12:39:34
If they split on fairly amicable terms despite the walking out then its a total no brainer he would go back, but Vince seems like he will be a spiteful fuck.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Monday, September 26, 2022, 12:45:05
Good wage and a good pay off for a few days work init


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Super Hans on Monday, September 26, 2022, 12:56:38
Vince was on Talksport saying how badly Watford behaved and that essentially he thought Edwards would have more integrity than to agree to a deal behind the clubs back.

In football this means he will definitely be FGR manager again soon! 


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: @MacPhlea on Tuesday, September 27, 2022, 05:24:01
If they split on fairly amicable terms despite the walking out then its a total no brainer he would go back, but Vince seems like he will be a spiteful fuck.
I’ve seen Dale evolve over 40 years - he will do whatever he thinks is in the best interests of FGR…


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Broadbents Tackle on Tuesday, September 27, 2022, 06:58:24
Apparently Andy Warhol was misquoted and he actually said, "In the future, everyone will be Watford manager for 15 minutes".


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, September 27, 2022, 18:51:15
Just been reading the Charlton Forum like you do when waiting for the spuds to cook… my, my not a happy bunch of muppets are they.

Way things are going we could well be passing each other in May 🤣🤣🤣🤣


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Tuesday, September 27, 2022, 19:17:48
Serves the bald headed prick right, knowing full well that club is a basketcase


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Moss on Tuesday, September 27, 2022, 19:21:04
Apparently Andy Warhol was misquoted and he actually said, "In the future, everyone will be Watford manager for 15 minutes".

 :D