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Title: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Batch on Friday, July 1, 2022, 09:46:02
Another season another sacking frenzy incoming


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 2, 2022, 20:15:33
Lee Bowyer gone as head coach of Birmingham


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Saturday, July 2, 2022, 20:22:32
Lee Bowyer gone as head coach of Birmingham

Could go back to Charl….wait…


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 2, 2022, 20:38:05
Not until Christmas ;)


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Batch on Sunday, July 3, 2022, 17:51:15
Birmingham City have appointed John Eustace as their new head coach.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, July 3, 2022, 17:53:24
Not far to travel from his previous club


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, July 3, 2022, 17:54:17
Birmingham City have appointed John Eustace as their new head coach.
What? In a matter of days? Madness!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, July 3, 2022, 17:55:31
Probably on a fraction of Bowyers wages


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Batch on Thursday, August 18, 2022, 14:46:48
And we're off..

https://www.rochdaleafc.co.uk/news/2022/august/clubstatement/

Obviously just before our game. Why wouldn't it be


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Thursday, August 18, 2022, 14:49:43
New manager bounce I may have to change my 2-0 home win score prediction🤣


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, August 18, 2022, 15:35:05
And we're off..

https://www.rochdaleafc.co.uk/news/2022/august/clubstatement/

Obviously just before our game. Why wouldn't it be

Oh hell.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Hyabb17 on Thursday, August 18, 2022, 15:37:57
Ready made excuse for Saturday now.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: adje on Saturday, August 20, 2022, 09:02:09
New manager bounce I may have to change my 2-0 home win score prediction🤣
What happened to our "new manager bounce"?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Saturday, August 20, 2022, 09:08:31
They only happen to other teams, we don't have them...


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: adje on Saturday, August 20, 2022, 09:12:58
They only happen to other teams, we don't have them...
True enough!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, August 20, 2022, 09:42:05
What happened to our "new manager bounce"?

We had that last season don't be greedy😀


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Saturday, August 20, 2022, 15:58:44
Rochdale was more of a new manager splat.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: RobertT on Saturday, August 20, 2022, 15:59:37
Rochdale was more of a new manager splat.

You'd avoid taking that job for any reason other than a need for money to pay your bills.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: oxonrobin on Saturday, August 20, 2022, 16:05:24
You'd avoid taking that job for any reason other than a need for money to pay your bills.

A free hit I guess? Hard to see anything other than a relegation on the CV for whoever takes it on.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: RobertT on Saturday, August 20, 2022, 16:06:53
Rochdale amaze me - they always seem to be a poor team whenever we play them at home, yet they bob around at this level easily enough.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Saturday, August 20, 2022, 16:07:11
A free hit I guess? Hard to see anything other than a relegation on the CV for whoever takes it on.

Too early in the season for a free hit I’d have thought.

If it was March I’d agree


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: oxonrobin on Saturday, August 20, 2022, 16:08:13
Might be March before anyone says yes


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, August 27, 2022, 07:16:18
Jim Bentley set to become Rochdale’s new manager.

Strange one up at Sunderland. Alex Neil has resigned to join Stoke.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Bedford Red on Saturday, August 27, 2022, 08:11:18

Strange one up at Sunderland. Alex Neil has resigned to join Stoke.

Yeah, i saw that yesterday. Not sure what the draw is about the Stoke job that's enticed him from Sunderland. I would have thought he's got more chance of success at Sunderland than Stoke.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Quagmire on Saturday, August 27, 2022, 08:30:02
He was only on a 12 month rolling contract at Sunderland.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, August 27, 2022, 09:41:31
Sunderland managers job has always been a poison chalice.

Massive club with a huge fanbase and great history languishing well below the level they should be at and the level the fans expect, paying large wages and a huge squad has hindered them rather than helping them on the pitch it seems.

Not many managers with the balls to take that job I would think.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, August 27, 2022, 13:00:43
Dyche might fancy it.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, August 27, 2022, 13:03:37
Dyche might fancy it.
If they throw enough money at him then maybe, tough crowd to please though them Mackems.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, August 27, 2022, 13:06:03
If they throw enough money at him then maybe, tough crowd to please though them Mackems.

He's the bookies favourite so it will be interesting to see how ambitious Sunderland really are.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, August 30, 2022, 07:35:57
Scott Parker gone from Bournemouth


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, August 30, 2022, 07:37:49
I mean sure they’ve won 1 and lost 3 but their fixtures have been Villa, Man City, Arsenal & Liverpool ffs

Not many other teams in the league are going to come out of those 4 fixtures with more than 3 points.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Tuesday, August 30, 2022, 07:55:03
Quote
AFC Bournemouth can announce that the club has parted company with head coach Scott Parker.
Maxim Demin said: “I would like to place on record my gratitude to Scott and his team for their efforts during their time with us. Our promotion back to the Premier League last season under his tenure will always be remembered as one of the most successful seasons in our history.
“However, in order for us to keep progressing as a team and a Club as a whole, it is unconditional that we are aligned in our strategy to run the club sustainably. We must also show belief in and respect for one another. That is the approach that has brought this club so much success in recent history, and one that we will not veer from now. Our search for a new head coach will begin immediately.”
Gary O’Neil will take interim charge of the team, and will be assisted by Shaun Cooper and Tommy Elphick.

The sustainability bit in that statement is gold.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: adje on Tuesday, August 30, 2022, 08:15:23
When they inevitably go down,who better than Parker to get em back up?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Robinz on Tuesday, August 30, 2022, 08:18:43
Parker will come to Swindon


As owner with his pay off........................


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Tuesday, August 30, 2022, 08:53:08
When they inevitably go down,who better than Parker to get em back up?

Wonder if Dyche will turn up there


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, August 30, 2022, 08:55:20
Very harsh on Parker but I know a couple of Bournemouth fans and they didnt like his style of play even last season when they so nearly won the league title, seems very knee jerk though as stated above look at the teams they have played.

Must be more to it than just Saturdays result, loads of muff fans were very upset at his comments post game and general complaining over the last month and that seems to have been the tipping point for the owner too.

Got Sean Dyche written all over it for the job.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, August 30, 2022, 09:11:01
I fucking hate Bournemouth.

That’s all.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, August 30, 2022, 09:22:07
I fucking hate Bournemouth.

That’s all.
I’m with you on that. Thought it might dissipate a bit when Head Boy left for Newcastle with his smug ‘hit me with a shovel’ face.

But no.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, August 30, 2022, 09:24:54
I fucking hate them too, no sympathy at all for them.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: harrisonaw on Tuesday, August 30, 2022, 09:42:55
Fairy tale   :)


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, August 30, 2022, 11:17:49
Their statement reads like Parker was getting tetchy about not being able to Notts Forest it.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, August 30, 2022, 11:22:28
They need to get back to league 1 where they belong😀


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Tuesday, August 30, 2022, 11:40:50
They need to get back to league 2 where they belong😀

Get it right Jimmy.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, August 30, 2022, 11:50:08
Get it right Jimmy.

That's magic😀
I was banking on us being in league 1 in a couple of years as it's a decent away day!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: adje on Tuesday, August 30, 2022, 11:51:47
I fucking hate Bournemouth.

That’s all.
Me too. Remember them with their begging buckets a few years back. Fuck em


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Honkytonk on Tuesday, August 30, 2022, 19:27:23
Dyche might fancy it.

Fingers crossed for a motivational WAV file from him.

Bournemouth still owe me the quid I gave them back when the buckets were out. Sustainable my Harris.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Tuesday, August 30, 2022, 21:18:25
Tony Mowbray gets the Sunderland job


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Wednesday, September 7, 2022, 08:46:35
Tuchel sacked from Chelsea


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, September 7, 2022, 08:47:23
Tuchel sacked from Chelsea

Goodness me.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, September 7, 2022, 08:53:28
Tuchel sacked from Chelsea

Give it to McKirdy until the end of the season!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, September 7, 2022, 09:09:24
Tuchel sacked from Chelsea

Wow.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Bewster on Wednesday, September 7, 2022, 09:16:31
Give it to McKirdy until the end of the season!

Give it to SL til the end of the season


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, September 7, 2022, 11:26:38
Tuchel sacked from Chelsea

I’d take him down here tbf


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, September 7, 2022, 11:28:50
Potter linked..

(Chelsea that is )


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, September 7, 2022, 12:28:04
Potter linked..

(Chelsea that is )

That has calamity written all over it. A long-term approach, systems manager working for a club that want success yesterday and have an itchy trigger finger.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: NotHarryAgombar on Wednesday, September 7, 2022, 12:33:51
Itchy trigger finger - same as some STFC fans….


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, September 7, 2022, 12:35:38
Itchy trigger finger - same as some STFC fans….

Same as many football fans at every club. Much more of a problem when it's the owners and decision makers who don't really have a plan, just react to events as they happen.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Riddick on Wednesday, September 7, 2022, 12:36:00
That has calamity written all over it. A long-term approach, systems manager working for a club that want success yesterday and have an itchy trigger finger.

For who? Not for Potter. Brighton have a ceiling in the premier league and even if Potter fails at Chelsea, the majority of the blame will be on the club and players, given how they treat all managers. You don't often get offered a job at that level of club. He could get sacked from Chelsea and still get the England job for example, and make bank while at it.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: singingiiiffy on Wednesday, September 7, 2022, 13:04:23
Itchy trigger finger - same as some STFC fans….
question. has a swindon manager in say the last 20-30 years ever managed to turn a club/fans views around?

di canio had a rough start but always the fans on board.

I always feel like the club hold on to people for too long but its a fine line. Barton could very easily have been sacked by December last year but turned it round. I never really see this at swindon. it's either all good or all shit. never really fluctuates from shit to good for us and most sackings are justified.

I so want lindsey to do good as all of our managers. this bad vibe from day 1 and the season is playing out in the same style


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Frigby Daser on Wednesday, September 7, 2022, 19:38:52
I’d say 2 of the last 3. Wellens and Garner. Both came with the same “cheap option” concerns.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Pookemon on Thursday, September 8, 2022, 06:49:29
I’d say 2 of the last 3. Wellens and Garner. Both came with the same “cheap option” concerns.

Both by winning games early although Garner was always going to be given some slack given the shitshow he took over.

Any manager not winning games for a team expected to be challenging is going to be under pressure. If they have been good elsewhere or a played to a decent level it will give them a bit more time, or a window if taking over mid season.   


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: 4D on Thursday, September 8, 2022, 07:18:48
I see some of the Charlton fans are moaning about Garnerball already. Best wait until the home winter games  :)


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DMC on Thursday, September 8, 2022, 08:46:26
Both by winning games early although Garner was always going to be given some slack given the shitshow he took over.

Any manager not winning games for a team expected to be challenging is going to be under pressure. If they have been good elsewhere or a played to a decent level it will give them a bit more time, or a window if taking over mid season.   
To be fair i am sure Wellens lost 4 out of his first 6 games including his first 3 at home. He has been on a hiding to nothing from the minute he got the job.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, September 8, 2022, 08:54:11
To be fair i am sure Wellens lost 4 out of his first 6 games including his first 3 at home. He has been on a hiding to nothing from the minute he got the job.
Wellens first 8 games we only suffered 2 defeats LWWWLDDD 1 home to Carlisle and away at Grimsby. 3 defeats if you count the FA cup home game.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Batch on Thursday, September 8, 2022, 09:44:19
Bloody hell, COVID and lockdowns has really screwed with my sense of time.

I already forgot Wellens came in during November *2018*, straight after Brown, and that the good season wasn't until the season after.



Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DMC on Thursday, September 8, 2022, 15:06:06
Wellens first 8 games we only suffered 2 defeats LWWWLDDD 1 home to Carlisle and away at Grimsby. 3 defeats if you count the FA cup home game.
Of course, i was looking at Browns the season before


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 09:13:57
Danny Schofield gone from 'Uddersfield


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: oxonrobin on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 18:02:17
Decisive from Huddersfield. Early, but makes more sense than the 2 high profile Prem sackings so far. If Swindon were stuck on 4 points would SL still be here?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: swindonmaniac on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 18:06:06
Decisive from Huddersfield. Early, but makes more sense than the 2 high profile Prem sackings so far. If Swindon were stuck on 4 points would SL still be here?
Yes.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, September 15, 2022, 14:19:02
Sheridactyl gone from Oldham


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Thursday, September 15, 2022, 14:20:51
The Magic has worn off😀


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, September 15, 2022, 14:59:11
Sheridactyl gone from Oldham

They'll probably cut out the middle man and get him in to replace himself.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Thursday, September 15, 2022, 16:37:08
Some shezurrection


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, September 18, 2022, 12:53:17
Steve Morison sacked at Cardiff


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, September 18, 2022, 13:55:54
Hartley hares it from Hartlepool


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: ibelieveinmrreeves on Sunday, September 18, 2022, 14:35:30
Steve Morison sacked by Cardiff too.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Oldwembley69 on Sunday, September 18, 2022, 17:25:56
Busy weekend, Wayne Brown shown the door at Colchester!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, September 19, 2022, 03:56:19
Keith Curle gets the Hartlepool gig.

I thought appointments took 6 weeks


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: ibelieveinmrreeves on Monday, September 19, 2022, 07:04:34
Wait six weeks or take Keith Curle - what's your preference?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, September 19, 2022, 09:05:23
Wait six weeks or take Keith Curle - what's your preference?
6 weeks every time!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Batch on Monday, September 19, 2022, 09:14:13
To be fair while we bungled our appointment, to take 6 weeks after actually sacking a manager would be worse


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, September 19, 2022, 09:44:14
To be fair while we bungled our appointment, to take 6 weeks after actually sacking a manager would be worse
Indeed but if they waited 6 weeks and then STILL appointed Curle would be way worse!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Posh Red on Monday, September 19, 2022, 12:37:32
To be fair while we bungled our appointment, to take 6 weeks after actually sacking a manager would be worse

To be fair though, when we were trying to get a new manager I'm guessing a lot of the candidates were on their holidays as it was off-season


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Monday, September 19, 2022, 13:20:10
Not sure that it can be said with any certainty that the appointment was bungled.

Presumably people on here have been subject to an internal promotion at work?
What happens,
a) take whatever package is on the table,
b) insist on the market rate or pay parity with the previous post holder.
c) Take less but negotiate with a view to regular performance related reviews for example.

Options b & c could take some time & try the employers patience depending on how keen they are.

Once in post do people then view themselves as the cheap option?
Probably not, more likely as entirely deserving of the promotion.


Title: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycli
Post by: Batch on Monday, September 19, 2022, 13:31:11
Bungled may be the wrong word.

I don't think he was first choice, but that doesn't really matter


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Monday, September 19, 2022, 13:52:49
To be fair though, when we were trying to get a new manager I'm guessing a lot of the candidates were on their holidays as it was off-season

With their agents?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: RobertT on Monday, September 19, 2022, 14:08:10
Not sure that it can be said with any certainty that the appointment was bungled.

Presumably people on here have been subject to an internal promotion at work?
What happens,
a) take whatever package is on the table,
b) insist on the market rate or pay parity with the previous post holder.
c) Take less but negotiate with a view to regular performance related reviews for example.

Options b & c could take some time & try the employers patience depending on how keen they are.

Once in post do people then view themselves as the cheap option?
Probably not, more likely as entirely deserving of the promotion.

I am sure there some empirical evidence to prove me wrong, but in my experience, internal promotions are indeed often much less costly than recruiting externally and generally quite swift to conclusion.  People have far less of a tendency to negotiate with their existing employer and to recruit externally you have two cost factors - first the recruitment costs themselves, and second, the fact you generally have to entice people away from secure employment and you pay a premium to take existing experience (you don't generally recruit someone who is more junior when doing so externally, so there is a bigger salary premium than taking an internal hire who is stepping up).


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Monday, September 19, 2022, 14:30:50
I am sure there some empirical evidence to prove me wrong, but in my experience, internal promotions are indeed often much less costly than recruiting externally and generally quite swift to conclusion.  People have far less of a tendency to negotiate with their existing employer and to recruit externally you have two cost factors - first the recruitment costs themselves, and second, the fact you generally have to entice people away from secure employment and you pay a premium to take existing experience (you don't generally recruit someone who is more junior when doing so externally, so there is a bigger salary premium than taking an internal hire who is stepping up).

Aye, my own experience was effectively ending up taking on two jobs, saving the employer a packet in the process.
Probably common practice at the time.
Out of the employment ladder loop for about 7 years with being self employed. Much better work / life balance as a result.

So yeah, SL may well have worked out as the cheaper option. He may yet prove to be successful.
Don't think that the cheap option appointment should be used as a stck to beat the club with whenever the scenario arises.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: RobertT on Monday, September 19, 2022, 15:40:34
Indeed, I have been the "cheap" option a few times I imagine, but think I have done OK!


Title: Re: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, September 20, 2022, 06:19:13
Hartley hares it from Hartlepool
Only got their pool left?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, September 20, 2022, 21:24:19
I see David Unsworth has taken the Oldham gig, Francis Jeffers as assistant.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: THE FLASH on Wednesday, September 21, 2022, 16:01:48
Derby looking for another Manager!

Rosenior gone.

Lost three of twelve games played. EEk!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Wednesday, September 21, 2022, 16:07:42
Derby looking for another Manager!

Rosenior gone.

Lost three of twelve games played. EEk!

Staying on the coaching staff. They are after Paul Warne


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, September 21, 2022, 16:09:33
Pretty sure he won't go, and good on them for for sticking with him considering how trigger happy modern football is, but Howe is getting a pretty easy ride at Newcastle considering the start they have had (very similar to ours until we won the last couple and the vultures were circling Lindsey in the stands) and the cash they have spent.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, September 21, 2022, 17:00:16
Pretty sure he won't go, and good on them for for sticking with him considering how trigger happy modern football is, but Howe is getting a pretty easy ride at Newcastle considering the start they have had (very similar to ours until we won the last couple and the vultures were circling Lindsey in the stands) and the cash they have spent.

Howe’s overall record there is 15/10/11 from 36 games.
If you put that into a full season that’s 55 points (would have seen them finish 8th in last seasons table) but with two games left. Meaning they could have finished 6/7/8th.

I expect they’d take something like this season.

Plus, I could be wrong but I expect the Geordies have bit more patience that our fanbase


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Abrahammer on Wednesday, September 21, 2022, 17:06:10
Can’t see Howe going yet. He is there for the initial transition period of big spending, when they are ready to really push on to a top 6 spot they will go for the real “big name” to help attract top calibre players

He did a cracking job last season with a very average squad (2 or 3 players being the exception)


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Ginginho on Monday, September 26, 2022, 11:59:44
Rob Edwards has been sacked as Watford manager after just 10 games in charge.

Slaven Bilic taking over, apparently.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Nemo on Monday, September 26, 2022, 12:05:06
Rob Edwards has been sacked as Watford manager after just 10 games in charge.

Slaven Bilic taking over, apparently.

Dale Vince will be laughing himself into a hernia.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Batch on Monday, September 26, 2022, 12:06:57
Dale Vince will be laughing himself into a hernia.

Or will be on the phone to him PDQ.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Ginginho on Monday, September 26, 2022, 12:07:33
Dale Vince will be laughing himself into a hernia.

I bet he'd take him back in a heartbeat however. Might happen yet looking at FGR's start to the season!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, September 26, 2022, 12:39:34
If they split on fairly amicable terms despite the walking out then its a total no brainer he would go back, but Vince seems like he will be a spiteful fuck.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Monday, September 26, 2022, 12:45:05
Good wage and a good pay off for a few days work init


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Super Hans on Monday, September 26, 2022, 12:56:38
Vince was on Talksport saying how badly Watford behaved and that essentially he thought Edwards would have more integrity than to agree to a deal behind the clubs back.

In football this means he will definitely be FGR manager again soon! 


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: @MacPhlea on Tuesday, September 27, 2022, 05:24:01
If they split on fairly amicable terms despite the walking out then its a total no brainer he would go back, but Vince seems like he will be a spiteful fuck.
I’ve seen Dale evolve over 40 years - he will do whatever he thinks is in the best interests of FGR…


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Broadbents Tackle on Tuesday, September 27, 2022, 06:58:24
Apparently Andy Warhol was misquoted and he actually said, "In the future, everyone will be Watford manager for 15 minutes".


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, September 27, 2022, 18:51:15
Just been reading the Charlton Forum like you do when waiting for the spuds to cook… my, my not a happy bunch of muppets are they.

Way things are going we could well be passing each other in May 🤣🤣🤣🤣


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Tuesday, September 27, 2022, 19:17:48
Serves the bald headed prick right, knowing full well that club is a basketcase


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Moss on Tuesday, September 27, 2022, 19:21:04
Apparently Andy Warhol was misquoted and he actually said, "In the future, everyone will be Watford manager for 15 minutes".

 :D


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: bathford on Wednesday, September 28, 2022, 16:37:15
Not actually gone, but going shortly. A certain Mr Garner.

Charlton Fans not happy.

BigDiddyBigDiddy
September 24
Garner out.

Protests against TS.

Nothing else to suggest

BigRedEvilBigRedEvil
September 24
Garnerball is ineffective and needs to change, we just don't have the players for it. Stockley although hopeless so far this season can score goals at this level.

Long season ahead, expect Garner will be gone before Xmas the way its going.

RodneyCharltonTrotta
September 24
2 wins in 10 and 16th in League One just above
 the relegation zone.

We kidded ourselves our team/ squad is an improvement on
 last year. It’s not.  Or Garner is not as
 good a manager as Jackson.

BoughtonaddicksBoughtonaddicks
September 24
Trying to think of another game where a losing manager has took his 5 best players off

BigDiddyBigDiddy
September 24

Athletico Charlton said:
It's not a quick fix says Ben Garner.

Well we are 3 points off relegation, just got easily beaten, have an exceptionally fragile defence, have not won in what, 6 games?

You had better fix this bloody quickly Ben because otherwise we will be looking at L2.

Tippy tappy slow rubbish with no defensive shape.

We are in trouble.

Yet with our players, we should not be.

 Garner is out of his depth. He must go.



All going swimmingly for good old Ben!





Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: oxonrobin on Wednesday, September 28, 2022, 17:58:34
From Twitter the Charlton fans seemed fairly split on those blaming Garner and those blaming the owner for lack of backing. Think Garner was quoting saying he was frustrated by not being able to spend on transfers. Won’t do his relationship with the owner any good.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: bathford on Wednesday, September 28, 2022, 18:19:16
On their forum, it is suggested that Garner should provoke the owner to get himself sacked. Thereby, getting a decent payoff and keeping his reputation intact.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, September 28, 2022, 18:24:56
What reputation is that?

Round these here parts he’s a cunt.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, September 29, 2022, 08:03:13
Think Garner was quoting saying he was frustrated by not being able to spend on transfers. Won’t do his relationship with the owner any good.

On their forum, it is suggested that Garner should provoke the owner to get himself sacked. Thereby, getting a decent payoff and keeping his reputation intact.

Doing a Parker....

What reputation is that?

Round these here parts he’s a cunt.

Is he well known in Kefalonia?  ;)


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, September 29, 2022, 12:00:32
He is now.

Malaka


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: 4D on Thursday, September 29, 2022, 12:41:22
Garnerball  :D


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Anteater on Thursday, September 29, 2022, 14:04:31
He is now.

Malaka
Is that what they’re calling him in Assos or Arogostoli ?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, September 29, 2022, 14:20:50
There’s a bit of graffiti about for Gate 13 Panathanikos. I’ll add ‘ Garner Malaka’ to it!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-rYhxi8a9pM


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, October 2, 2022, 16:23:46
Bruno Lage sacked by Wolves


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Monday, October 3, 2022, 08:10:29
Chris Wilder sacked by Middlesbrough


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, October 3, 2022, 09:13:20
Matt Taylor from Exeter to Rovrum


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, October 3, 2022, 09:32:20
Matt Taylor from Exeter to Rovrum
Hes worked wonders at Exeter TBF.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, October 3, 2022, 09:41:29
I see lots of Exeter fans moaning that he left them for a "smaller club".

So Rotherham sit in the top half of a division higher than Exeter, a bigger pull for players than Exeter due to location and better finances and they have an average home crowd of nearly double that of Exeter in a nearly brand new purpose built stadium.

Seems like a no brainer, a perfect step up without Taylor going to a bigger club with bigger expectations which often works against the new manager these sort of appointments who is expected to hit the ground running.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, October 3, 2022, 09:54:38
I see lots of Exeter fans moaning that he left them for a "smaller club".

So Rotherham sit in the top half of a division higher than Exeter, a bigger pull for players than Exeter due to location and better finances and they have an average home crowd of nearly double that of Exeter in a nearly brand new purpose built stadium.

Seems like a no brainer, a perfect step up without Taylor going to a bigger club with bigger expectations which often works against the new manager these sort of appointments who is expected to hit the ground running.

TBF you could say broadly the same about Garner and Charlton and that didn't stop a lot of our fans moaning.

And bloody hell there is more glamour going to a London club rather than Rotherham (albeit it has a nice Tesco Extra!!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, October 3, 2022, 10:09:36
TBF you could say broadly the same about Garner and Charlton and that didn't stop a lot of our fans moaning.

And bloody hell there is more glamour going to a London club rather than Rotherham (albeit it has a nice Tesco Extra!!
TBH I don't actually remember any of our fans moaning about Charlton being a small club.

The pull of London and lets be honest Charlton are a way bigger club than Swindon, made that a no brainer for Garner too.

I don't recall any of our fans suggesting they were a smaller club or even comparable in size to us when he left, I think we all fully understood his reasoning for going.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Monday, October 3, 2022, 10:14:05
TBH I don't actually remember any of our fans moaning about Charlton being a small club.

The pull of London and lets be honest Charlton are a way bigger club than Swindon, made that a no brainer for Garner too.

I don't recall any of our fans suggesting they were a smaller club or even comparable in size to us when he left, I think we all fully understood his reasoning for going.

I wouldn’t say it was a ‘no brained’ whilst all you’ve said about Charlton is true - I think we as a club, offer much more stability

…but…tbh I don’t know if football managers even care for that now a days. Probably more lucrative for them to just keep getting sacked and paid off


Title: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycli
Post by: Batch on Monday, October 3, 2022, 10:19:14
Suspect they thought he was good enough to go to a bigger club when he left.

Though calling Rotherham smaller than Exeter is demonstrably wrong, my perception is that they are at the ceiling of their existence. Which again could be wrong

either way it's a good step and career progression


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Ticker45 on Monday, October 3, 2022, 10:36:48
Chris Wilder sacked by Middlesbrough

I always get a bit wary when that happens and we have a loan player. New manager will obviously want to take a look at his squad and Brynn is playing well. Do not remember the loan arrangements.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: adje on Monday, October 3, 2022, 10:51:50
I always get a bit wary when that happens and we have a loan player. New manager will obviously want to take a look at his squad and Brynn is playing well. Do not remember the loan arrangements.
Would be a worry I agree


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Batch on Monday, October 3, 2022, 10:56:46
I always get a bit wary when that happens and we have a loan player. New manager will obviously want to take a look at his squad and Brynn is playing well. Do not remember the loan arrangements.

Bugger, forgot about him being from borough.

I don't think they can recall until January on a season long loan though. Unless there is a special goalkeeper clause.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Power to people on Monday, October 3, 2022, 11:02:49
Wolves & M'boro manager's sacked

The door is firmly open


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Banker on Tuesday, October 4, 2022, 18:04:16
I see lots of Exeter fans moaning that he left them for a "smaller club".
.
Where did you 'see' that, PV ? Only ask because I haven't seen anything like it. Many believe he should have held on for a bigger club to come knocking at our door, but that isn't the same as what you're suggesting



Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 4, 2022, 19:08:11
.
Where did you 'see' that, PV ? Only ask because I haven't seen anything like it. Many believe he should have held on for a bigger club to come knocking at our door, but that isn't the same as what you're suggesting
1 or 2 on your Grecians forum but a fair few on the Vital football forums and on twitter from what I have seen, also the L1 banter page on FB.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Banker on Tuesday, October 4, 2022, 19:52:00
1 or 2 on your Grecians forum but a fair few on the Vital football forums and on twitter from what I have seen, also the L1 banter page on FB.

Thanks, didn't spot the 1, or 2 comments that you've seen on our forum. As for L1 banter on FB etc etc really don't know how you find the time !  ;D


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 4, 2022, 20:02:01
Thanks, didn't spot the 1, or 2 comments that you've seen on our forum. As for L1 banter on FB etc etc really don't know how you find the time !  ;D
Not working helps ;)


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, October 5, 2022, 11:42:39
Pressure cranking up on Garner. Lost to Colchester last night, too. All the moans and gripes are strikingly similar to ours when things weren’t working. They’ve definitely got the Rovers version.

Payne also getting pelters - missed a pen, too.

Where does Garner go from this?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Wednesday, October 5, 2022, 12:03:51
To get a personality transplant


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, October 5, 2022, 12:06:54
Garner would get another job in L2 I'm sure. Think he might be better suited longer term to U23s/Development coaching though, where the emphasis is more on skills development than results.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, October 5, 2022, 12:08:01
Garner would get another job in L2 I'm sure. Think he might be better suited longer term to U23s/Development coaching though, where the emphasis is more on skills development than results.

I suspect he would go into a PL academy, probably earning way more than he does as a manager in L1.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, October 5, 2022, 12:33:34
The "Charlton Life" forum is a diffulct place at the moment :)

I feel sorry for Payne, I still think he left us too soon and they seem to hate him there.

Garner is deserving of all he gets.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, October 5, 2022, 12:36:53
Lost to Colchester last night, too.

Only the pizza cup though. But league wise the pressure is really on.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, October 5, 2022, 12:41:10
Ho hum  :)


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, October 5, 2022, 12:47:22
The "Charlton Life" forum is a diffulct place at the moment :)

I feel sorry for Payne, I still think he left us too soon and they seem to hate him there.

Garner is deserving of all he gets.
They were loving it signing our players and pinching Garner when it happened. Even though they were told what to expect they just ignored it - ‘Swindon are our feeder club’ bollocks.

Chickens home to roost.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, October 5, 2022, 13:09:40
He's not going to last the season is he? He won't be out of work long though, bound to pick up an academy job somewhere on more money...


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: molepar on Wednesday, October 5, 2022, 13:37:45
I read some of the posts on that forum. Fair to say they aren’t at all keen on Garner or Payne. The grass isn’t always greener it seems.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, October 5, 2022, 13:50:02
Charlton away at Lincoln on Saturday, that won't be easy. Could be in the relegation zone at 5pm.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Robinz on Wednesday, October 5, 2022, 17:07:20
Question
After watching the Newport match and seeing a similar style of play to last year with Garner and as to how Wellens previously did.
When SL first was made up to manager he maintained that he would continue this style.
I thought it was a follow on from Garner but now starting to think it maybe  the Swindon style long into the future especially with all the new young exciting players coming on board.
Back to the question who is driving this forward?







Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: oxonrobin on Wednesday, October 5, 2022, 19:35:43
I read some of the posts on that forum. Fair to say they aren’t at all keen on Garner or Payne. The grass isn’t always greener it seems.

Hard to imagine anyone not liking Payne. Always covers so much ground, effort levels are top tier. Must be brilliant to play alongside.

Similar to how our fans have taken to Wakeling and his work rate this season. Can’t not like the guy.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Frigby Daser on Wednesday, October 5, 2022, 19:58:20
When Charlton decide they don’t want Payne, I’ll have him back in a heart beat. I’ll never forget that performance against FGR at home. Garner can come too. He’ll work well under Lindsey.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Wednesday, October 5, 2022, 22:32:48
If he falls out of favour perhaps a January swoop might not be off the cards? We have perhaps spent his wages on other players though.

Sent from my XQ-AD51


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Thursday, October 6, 2022, 05:47:20
If he falls out of favour perhaps a January swoop might not be off the cards? We have perhaps spent his wages on other players though.

Sent from my XQ-AD51

The money is there. Just a question of whether he becomes free and we want him.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Thursday, October 6, 2022, 06:13:45
He’ll go off to Hibs on loan in Jan…


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Power to people on Friday, October 7, 2022, 11:12:25
If he falls out of favour perhaps a January swoop might not be off the cards? We have perhaps spent his wages on other players though.

Sent from my XQ-AD51

He probably got a decent pay rise going to Charlton.

Not sure he would fit into our midfield at the moment though


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Monday, October 10, 2022, 07:08:36
Kevin Betsy gone from Crawley

Karl Robinson apparently on thin ice also


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Nemo on Monday, October 10, 2022, 07:11:33
Kevin Betsy gone from Crawley

Karl Robinson apparently on thin ice also

I'll be honest, I'd have been pretty enthused by Betsy in pre-season. Shows what I know! Although of course, he could have fitted better here, Crawley is a bit of a strange club at the moment.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Monday, October 10, 2022, 07:41:57
I'll be honest, I'd have been pretty enthused by Betsy in pre-season. Shows what I know! Although of course, he could have fitted better here, Crawley is a bit of a strange club at the moment.

I mean if we looking at a young coach highly regarded at youth level looking to move into management - you’d definitely look favourably on Kevin Betsy.

Whilst I’m in no position to say exactly how much of Arsenals current crop of young talent has been heavily influenced by Betsy personally - Arsenal right now very much have a good young squad of footballers.

I do wonder whether looking at youth coaches at the top, top level is maybe a bad idea because of the high ceiling of talent they work with. You know, did he try and get the Crawley players to do the same as what some of the best U23s in the country we’re doing in a top academy.

Perhaps the highly respected coaches lower down like Garner & the QPR man whose name has escaped me are a better bet for lower league managers because they work with lesser talent and it’s less of a ‘drop’ having said that the ex Liverpool youth coach did a pretty good job at Blackpool from what I can tell.

Who knows


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Monday, October 10, 2022, 08:28:58
Steve Bruce gone from WBA


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Monday, October 10, 2022, 08:33:51
No doubts another big pay off which isn't bad for eighth months work! Now on to the next.....


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Steak supper on Monday, October 10, 2022, 08:59:18
Money money money money money!

Lick badges


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Batch on Monday, October 10, 2022, 09:30:01
Steve Bruce gone from WBA

Why do people keep employing him. A really good player but...


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, October 10, 2022, 09:30:39
Steve Bruce gone from WBA
How the fuck does Steve Bruce keep getting big jobs?

That was the 4th time in his 1,032 and 12 club career that he didnt even make 35 games and only twice had a win percentage of over 41%, one of those being a 18 game job at Palace 21 years ago.

Proper jobbing manager making a career out of being not very good, like a higher league Keith Curle, or a modern day Malcolm Allison.



Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, October 10, 2022, 09:59:27
How the fuck does Steve Bruce keep getting big jobs?

That was the 4th time in his 1,032 and 12 club career that he didnt even make 35 games and only twice had a win percentage of over 41%, one of those being a 18 game job at Palace 21 years ago.

Proper jobbing manager making a career out of being not very good, like a higher league Keith Curle, or a modern day Malcolm Allison.



I suspect cos having 4 promotions (plus at least 1x play off final defeat) out of the Championship into the PL makes one attractive to Championship Chairmen. I don't think he is a particularly good or bad manager, just a jobbing Championship one, albeit possibly past it now.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Saxondale on Monday, October 10, 2022, 14:26:17
My baggies supporting mate was doing the guestlist for me at the Morrissey gig I was running last night.  Sean Dyche was on the guestlist. 

He dodged my mates question about whether he was coming to save the Baggies or not.  He didnt say no though.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Nemo on Monday, October 10, 2022, 14:31:15
My baggies supporting mate was doing the guestlist for me at the Morrissey gig I was running last night.  Sean Dyche was on the guestlist. 

He dodged my mates question about whether he was coming to save the Baggies or not.  He didnt say no though.

He was looking for a job, but has he found a job?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, October 10, 2022, 15:11:07
I suspect cos having 4 promotions (plus at least 1x play off final defeat) out of the Championship into the PL makes one attractive to Championship Chairmen.
3 promotions (1 via play off) and a losing play off ;)


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, October 10, 2022, 15:16:33
My baggies supporting mate was doing the guestlist for me at the Morrissey gig I was running last night.  Sean Dyche was on the guestlist.  

He dodged my mates question about whether he was coming to save the Baggies or not.  He didnt say no though.
Not one poster on the WBA forum can be said to be unhappy about Bruce being sacked, Dyche is unsurprisingly the fans favourite polling 40% of the votes so far. Carrick 2nd most voted for.

Dyche would be a good fit for them, big club floundering low in the Championship and with a decent squad TBH and a decent amount of funding, nice and central too, not too far from his home in Kettering.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, October 10, 2022, 16:43:49
Rowberry gone from Newport


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Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 11, 2022, 09:27:27
Rowberry gone from Newport
TBF Newport were utterly terrible.


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Post by: Power to people on Thursday, October 13, 2022, 12:06:32
You wonder who Crawley will end up employing - they seem to be a bit of a basket case with these Cryptocurrency guys owning the club with their odd ideas, they only seem to be going 1 way....


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Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, October 13, 2022, 12:42:49
You wonder who Crawley will end up employing - they seem to be a bit of a basket case with these Cryptocurrency guys owning the club with their odd ideas, they only seem to be going 1 way....
Up?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjD3EVC1-zU


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Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, October 13, 2022, 12:46:07
Up?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjD3EVC1-zU

More like..............

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC06Z6lCB_Q


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Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, October 13, 2022, 12:46:51
I think this goal sums up Crawleys season :)

https://twitter.com/i/status/1578868036437958656


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Post by: Nemo on Thursday, October 13, 2022, 13:02:34
I think this goal sums up Crawleys season :)

https://twitter.com/i/status/1578868036437958656

That is entertaining. Not sure whether it's more or less embarrassing than the Joe Fryer miss kick from the pass back against Accrington in the Sheridan year though. One of the great all-time fuck ups.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jKLMelPKxk

First up on this. Think enough time has passed for me to find this funny now.


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Post by: Posh Red on Thursday, October 13, 2022, 14:45:40
That is entertaining. Not sure whether it's more or less embarrassing than the Joe Fryer miss kick from the pass back against Accrington in the Sheridan year though. One of the great all-time fuck ups.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jKLMelPKxk

First up on this. Think enough time has passed for me to find this funny now.

What was funnier was the number of people calling for him to play because nothing could be worse than Kovar, only for us to find out as bad as Kovar was for us (and he was crap) Fryer was even worse :(

God that was a depressing time


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Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, October 13, 2022, 14:55:26
That is entertaining. Not sure whether it's more or less embarrassing than the Joe Fryer miss kick from the pass back against Accrington in the Sheridan year though. One of the great all-time fuck ups.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jKLMelPKxk

First up on this. Think enough time has passed for me to find this funny now.

Fryers miskick was the icing on the cake, but bloody hell the play that led to that was equally grim watching.

An admittedly rudimentary google suggests that he hasn't played a game since that game and is now an Academy Coach at Boro?


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Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, October 17, 2022, 09:05:20
McSheffery gone from Donny


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Post by: tans on Thursday, October 20, 2022, 21:28:02
Gerrard gone from Villa


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Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, October 21, 2022, 08:41:22
McSheffery gone from Donny
And replace him with Danny Schofield, yes I don't know much about him either. I remember him at Huddersfield as a player but thats it.


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Post by: Power to people on Friday, October 21, 2022, 11:19:31
Graham Coughlan appointed Newport manager, that may be a good appointment for them

QPR manager turns down the Wolves job....sounds like they have had a few turn them down, so have given it to the caretaker manager until next year


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Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, October 21, 2022, 11:52:03
Liz Truss appointed Oxford United manager, she told reporters "I feel more comfortable with an empty cabinet" :)


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Post by: cdakev on Friday, October 21, 2022, 12:56:35
Ian Baraclough sacked as Northern Ireland manager


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Post by: swindonmaniac on Friday, October 21, 2022, 14:07:39
Liz Truss appointed Oxford United manager, she told reporters "I feel more comfortable with an empty cabinet" :)
:D :D :D


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Post by: Legends-Lounge on Friday, October 21, 2022, 18:17:25
Liz Truss appointed Oxford United manager, she told reporters "I feel more comfortable with an empty cabinet" :)

More at home with Spurs.


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Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, October 24, 2022, 07:43:16
Gary Caldwell named Exeter manager

Can’t be arsed to google, but who the fuck is he?


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Post by: Nemo on Monday, October 24, 2022, 07:46:26
Gary Caldwell named Exeter manager

Can’t be arsed to google, but who the fuck is he?

Ex-Prem player, was at Wigan when they were alright I think? Brother of Stephen, both sort of lower end Prem CBs in the 2000s.


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Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, October 24, 2022, 08:09:18
Ex-Prem player, was at Wigan when they were alright I think? Brother of Stephen, both sort of lower end Prem CBs in the 2000s.

55 caps for Scotland, he's a modern-day Maurice Malpas!


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Post by: ibelieveinmrreeves on Monday, October 24, 2022, 08:25:06
Lots of negativity about him on Twitter from Chesterfield fans - looks like he’s not starting from a strong position.


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Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, October 27, 2022, 16:41:15
Mark Cooper taking over at Yeovil.


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Post by: Batch on Thursday, October 27, 2022, 16:54:16
They go again


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Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, November 7, 2022, 10:13:06
Hassenhuttel gone from Southampton


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Post by: singingiiiffy on Monday, November 7, 2022, 11:14:43
Hassenhuttel gone from Southampton

feels like he has survived the sack multiple times. 2 x 9-0 games is a test on any board decision!


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Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Monday, November 7, 2022, 11:50:46
At this rate there won't be enough new managers to go around!


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Post by: Power to people on Monday, November 14, 2022, 19:38:39
Cardiff give the job to the caretaker manager until the end of the season


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Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, November 18, 2022, 03:36:17
Rob Edwards new Luton manager


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Post by: Robinz on Friday, November 18, 2022, 17:18:43
What is so good with Rob Edwards
Yes he got promotion with FGR and then seemed out of favour at Watford although there just a short time and now to Luton who look a pretty good and well run club with a future. From afar looks similar to Appleton at Blackpool and possibly Garner.


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Post by: Swindon Please Win on Friday, November 18, 2022, 19:19:52
What is so good with Rob Edwards
Yes he got promotion with FGR and then seemed out of favour at Watford although there just a short time and now to Luton who look a pretty good and well run club with a future. From afar looks similar to Appleton at Blackpool and possibly Garner.


Watford sack you for sneezing so I don't think you can judge that, he did do a good job with Forest Green and has a good coaching background too.


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Post by: Batch on Monday, November 21, 2022, 10:48:06
Giovanni van Bronckhorst gone from Rangers.

9 points behind Celtic and a shite champions League I suppose.



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Post by: Posh Red on Monday, November 21, 2022, 12:08:30
Giovanni van Bronckhorst gone from Rangers.

9 points behind Celtic and a shite champions League I suppose.



Gerrard available?


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Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, November 21, 2022, 13:36:45
Gerrard available?
Always possible.


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Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 11:32:48
Nixon rumouring Garner is up for the chop. This Charlton fan isn’t keen either

‘Garner is a bullshitter working for a cunt and his fucktard son not to mention that blonde plastic bitch.’


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Post by: Miles Mayhem on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 12:18:36
That’s a lot of swears in one sentence


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Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 13:46:05
That’s a lot of swears in one sentence

Quite impressive to fit such a variety of swear words into such a short sentance


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Post by: ibelieveinmrreeves on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 19:10:02
Matt Etherington gets the Crawley gig. Bit left field (pun intended)


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Post by: Batch on Sunday, November 27, 2022, 21:06:27
They are a bit of a basket case club right now aren't they.

maybe recruiting was tricky

Still, gives someone a go in EFL. management


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Post by: Pookemon on Monday, November 28, 2022, 13:04:52
Bitcoin traders appoint gambling addict.  :hmmm:


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Post by: tans on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 08:39:10
Kolo Toure gets the Wigan gig


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Post by: Pookemon on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 12:34:36
Kolo Toure gets the Wigan gig

Im sure he will do well as long as they don't forget his birthday cake


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Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 12:36:15
Im sure he will do well as long as they don't forget his birthday cake

Wrong Toure isn't that?


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Post by: Batch on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 12:48:03
Wrong Toure isn't that?

Yaya

both in agreement and the name.


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Post by: Pookemon on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 13:36:08
Wrong Toure isn't that?

Bugger - memory not what it was


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Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, November 29, 2022, 15:59:47
Richie Wellens has signed a new contract at Orient until 2025. He is bowling along nicely with the East London club this season after some poor performances. Maybe it's a Northern/South thing with him?


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Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 20:55:00
Rumour has it that Garner will be gone tomorrow.


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Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, December 4, 2022, 20:57:36
Lindsey for Charlton 😀


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Post by: tans on Monday, December 5, 2022, 16:10:42
Garner sacked from Charlton.

Hahahaha


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Post by: Batch on Monday, December 5, 2022, 16:15:42
I'm not that happy about it. Not surprised though.

I don't think I cared much when he left, maybe its that.


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Post by: horlock07 on Monday, December 5, 2022, 16:16:24
Garner sacked from Charlton.

Hahahaha

I wonder whether Charlton may go and have a quiet word with Orient?

I'm not that happy about it. Not surprised though.

I don't think I cared much when he left, maybe its that.


That's it, was all a bit meh at the time and same now,  never really understood all the vitriol about it, he was not particularly liked by the fan base and hardly the first manager to leave us for what is perceived to be a bigger job, yet Wellens who fucked off to a smaller club in a lower division seems to get a pretty free ride.


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Post by: Nomoreheroes on Monday, December 5, 2022, 16:17:20
Ooops. Just put this in Former Players. Can't be arsed to delete.


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Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, December 5, 2022, 16:17:57
I'm not that happy about it. Not surprised though.

I don't think I cared much when he left, maybe its that.


Be interesting to see where his next gig might be. He did relatively well with us but appears to have stunk the place out at both Bristol Rovers and now Charlton so his next role is pretty much make or break.


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Post by: horlock07 on Monday, December 5, 2022, 16:20:26
Be interesting to see where his next gig might be. He did relatively well with us but appears to have stunk the place out at both Bristol Rovers and now Charlton so his next role is pretty much make or break.

I suspect with the U23's at a PL club, which I suspect pays better than managing at this level anyway.


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Post by: Batch on Monday, December 5, 2022, 16:21:27
Be interesting to see where his next gig might be. He did relatively well with us but appears to have stunk the place out at both Bristol Rovers and now Charlton so his next role is pretty much make or break.

Wonder if he'll slope off into the coaching sunset now.


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Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, December 5, 2022, 16:27:15
I suspect with the U23's at a PL club, which I suspect pays better than managing at this level anyway.

Wonder if he'll slope off into the coaching sunset now.

Yeah more than likely.


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Post by: Batch on Monday, December 5, 2022, 16:28:53
Wait, wasn't the rumour he was interviewing between playoff games. Yeah, stuff him.


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Post by: horlock07 on Monday, December 5, 2022, 16:31:49
I s'pose the interesting one knocking about at the moment will be Critchley, albeit unless he is waiting for Gerrard to get another gig?

I see Garner will be getting paid up for 2.5 year remaining on Charlton contract, so that will help no doubt!


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Post by: Posh Red on Monday, December 5, 2022, 16:49:40
Garner sacked from Charlton.

Hahahaha

In the words of Windsor Davies

“Oh dear, how sad, Never mind”


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Post by: Wobbly Bob on Monday, December 5, 2022, 17:31:32
I am content with this news.

Doesn't look as if he got much backing in the summer window.
You would think that him or his agent might have done some due diligence on the senior management structure at the prospective employer.
Too busy preparing for our play off campaign maybe.

Yeah, safety net of the academy system to fall back on and all that.
No guarantees with that though.


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Post by: Boy About Town on Monday, December 5, 2022, 17:37:41
Did I see a Ben Garner thread the other night whilst drunk? Money on Jimmy having started it if so?


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Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, December 5, 2022, 17:50:53
Did I see a Ben Garner thread the other night whilst drunk? Money on Jimmy having started it if so?

https://thetownend.com/index.php?topic=59454.0


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Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, December 5, 2022, 17:53:03
I s'pose the interesting one knocking about at the moment will be Critchley, albeit unless he is waiting for Gerrard to get another gig?
I suggested this exact move a few days ago.

Neil Critchley would be a perfect replacement for Garner, did great at Blackpool, works well with young players and has many links to big clubs for loans etc and is now out of work since Gerrards sacking a couple of weeks ago.


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Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Monday, December 5, 2022, 22:26:57
Did I see a Ben Garner thread the other night whilst drunk? Money on Jimmy having started it if so?

Not guilty😀


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Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, December 8, 2022, 13:56:58
Luis Enrique gone from Spain, an option when Lindsey departs?  ;) :D


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Post by: Legends-Lounge on Thursday, December 8, 2022, 14:01:18
Luis Enrique gone from Spain, an option when Lindsey departs?  ;) :D

Lindsey for the Spain job? Intriguing proposition. How much compo would we get?  Ironically just watching a rerun of the penalties from the Morocco v Spain tie in the hotel lobby. Pissing with rain here in Morocco but warmer I think than blighty.


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Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, December 12, 2022, 14:53:36
Macclesfield FC's DOF Robbie Savage sacks manager David McNabb after winning 4-0 on Saturday.

He managed them for 9 games and had 7 wins and only 1 narrow loss, with them 7 points clear at the top of their division.

The 2nd sacking this season by Macc Lads after dismissing Danny Whitaker also with them stood atop of the division at the time.

They have a very experienced side as well and should walk the division with the players at their disposal with Zeki Fryers, Neil Danns, Nicky Maynard, Joe Bunney, Mark Duffy and Luke Murphy all having a fair amount of football league experience for that level.


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Post by: Wobbly Bob on Monday, December 12, 2022, 15:00:33
Doesn't sound like a sacking?

https://macclesfieldfc.com/2022/12/10/club-statement-david-mcnabb-and-tim-lees/

Maybe Robbie fancies a crack at management.

And where the fuck is Ramsbottom United!


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Post by: horlock07 on Monday, December 12, 2022, 15:08:40
Macclesfield FC's DOF Robbie Savage sacks manager David McNabb after winning 4-0 on Saturday.

He managed them for 9 games and had 7 wins and only 1 narrow loss, with them 7 points clear at the top of their division.

The 2nd sacking this season by Macc Lads after dismissing Danny Whitaker also with them stood atop of the division at the time.

They have a very experienced side as well and should walk the division with the players at their disposal with Zeki Fryers, Neil Danns, Nicky Maynard, Joe Bunney, Mark Duffy and Luke Murphy all having a fair amount of football league experience for that level.

Has it actually been confirmed now that the manager and assistant were sacked, the club were pushing the 'they chose to leave' line yesterday and I can't see anything else?


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Post by: horlock07 on Monday, December 12, 2022, 15:09:03
And where the fuck is Ramsbottom United!

In Ramsbottom.


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Post by: Wobbly Bob on Monday, December 12, 2022, 15:34:29
In Ramsbottom.

I see. Our paths are unlikely to cross for a while even in an AFC Swindon scenario.
They do like their bottoms in that part of the world.


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Post by: horlock07 on Monday, December 12, 2022, 15:37:58
I see. Our paths are unlikely to cross for a while even in an AFC Swindon scenario.
They do like their bottoms in that part of the world.


Cannot tell you much about Ramsbottom apart from there are some nice pubs there near the station.


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Post by: Nick Bamosomi on Monday, December 12, 2022, 22:53:41
I used to live in Bury, and Ramsbottom is just north of Bury.


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Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, December 13, 2022, 10:24:46
I used to live in Bury, and Ramsbottom is just north of Bury.

I know, my only visit to Ramsbottom came on the steam train from Bury during a pub crawl along that line.


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Post by: 4D on Tuesday, December 13, 2022, 15:16:02
https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/23187890.ex-swindon-town-manager-ben-garner-admits-leaving-difficult/#comments-anchor


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Post by: tans on Tuesday, December 13, 2022, 15:23:43
‘Difficult decision’

He couldnt wait to fuck off


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Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, December 13, 2022, 15:31:34
He couldn't wait to fuck off, had the job lined up even before the second play off match with Port Vale and showed no appreciation to Town fans.


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Post by: I JBZelieve We Will Win on Tuesday, December 13, 2022, 16:33:40
I can't say that I was a particular fan of Garner during his time with us. As I understand it, he took a new job which had better terms and conditions of employment and which appeared to offer enhanced prospects of career advancement. I suspect that most of us would have done the same in similar circumstances.


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Post by: SleafordRobin on Tuesday, December 13, 2022, 17:10:56
I wasn't overly bothered when he left (Garnerball not for me), he did a cracking job under extreme circumstances and we achieved more than any of us expected. What really pissed me off was taking Payne & Egbo, (think Wallacott would have left anyway) when he said he wouldn't return for any of our players. I know they were out of contract & likely to leave anyway, but going to Charlton with him really fucked me off!


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Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, December 13, 2022, 17:13:47
‘Difficult decision’

He couldnt wait to fuck off

Funny isn’t it….

We all hate Garner for fucking off, even though he did it at the end of the season, went to a bigger club for more pay, yet everyone is screaming for Charlie Austin to come back, despite the fact last time he was here he handed in a transfer request during the middle of the season and we were relegated.


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Post by: Wobbly Bob on Tuesday, December 13, 2022, 18:03:31
Absence makes the heart grow fonder.

Yeah, Austin got some stick on his return to the CG with Burnley, but he did later express regret about the exit strategy.

Hope he signs.

Would anyone want Garner back I wonder?


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Post by: 4D on Tuesday, December 13, 2022, 18:03:34
But Austin did well for us  ;)


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Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, December 13, 2022, 18:04:08
Funny isn’t it….

We all hate Garner for fucking off, even though he did it at the end of the season, went to a bigger club for more pay, yet everyone is screaming for Charlie Austin to come back, despite the fact last time he was here he handed in a transfer request during the middle of the season and we were relegated.

Just to play devil's advocate, I don't hate Garner at all. I would have rather he'd have stayed and built what he had started but I understand his thought process and managers come and go. I'm on the fence about Austin as well. I'd rather see him here than at Bristol Rovers of course, but I'm not convinced he's going to be the messiah (or a very naughty boy!)


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Post by: singingiiiffy on Tuesday, December 13, 2022, 18:57:33
Just to play devil's advocate, I don't hate Garner at all. I would have rather he'd have stayed and built what he had started but I understand his thought process and managers come and go. I'm on the fence about Austin as well. I'd rather see him here than at Bristol Rovers of course, but I'm not convinced he's going to be the messiah (or a very naughty boy!)

ronaldo esk vibes for Man Utd. A signing that shouldn't be made, an aging player on the decline vs football romance, excitement for the fans and would be awful to see him play for a local rival.

i think he still has something. i really hope he still has something


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Post by: singingiiiffy on Tuesday, December 13, 2022, 19:00:34
Absence makes the heart grow fonder.

Yeah, Austin got some stick on his return to the CG with Burnley, but he did later express regret about the exit strategy.

Hope he signs.

Would anyone want Garner back I wonder?

he got the stick when he returned- really quite volatile and hatred from the stands. Then at full time he walked round the pitch clapping the fans and it was returned with applause and austin chants!

as should happen with all players that return really!

he had to leave when he did. incredible player, one of the very best natural goalscorers/poachers and should really have had some caps for england when you look at someone strikers that have over the years.


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Post by: DiV on Tuesday, December 13, 2022, 23:19:16
Funny isn’t it….

We all hate Garner for fucking off, even though he did it at the end of the season, went to a bigger club for more pay, yet everyone is screaming for Charlie Austin to come back, despite the fact last time he was here he handed in a transfer request during the middle of the season and we were relegated.

I’d like to see Austin back but yeah the way he left was out of order.

If he’d waiting till the end of the season - then fine, I don’t think the club would have stood in his way at all.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, December 14, 2022, 05:51:03
Absence makes the heart grow fonder.

Yeah, Austin got some stick on his return to the CG with Burnley, but he did later express regret about the exit strategy.

Hope he signs.

Would anyone want Garner back I wonder?
Didn’t want him here in the first place so it’s a big fat no from me. We’ve got to get away from ‘academy’ football - it’s boring the arse off of me.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, December 14, 2022, 08:19:42
Ditto. It's like attending training sessions at the CG this season. Missing attacking grit and passion.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, December 14, 2022, 08:51:44
Never took to Garner and never will, personalityless individual who did well for us under extreme conditions. Fair play for what he achieved with us but he was another "meh" manager for me, much like Mark Cooper or Luke Williams.

I also dont think anyone could begrudge him for leaving for a much bigger club, in a higher division closer to his home.

But I would not want him back, has the personality of a sloth and seemed to be as appreciative of our fanbase as Lee Power was at times.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, December 14, 2022, 08:55:13
If he’s gone all surly because Clem may be foisting Austin on him, then his time must be up. Even if he doesn’t end up joining us surely whatever relationship Clem has with Lindsey has been soured. Maybe Clem has become as disillusioned with the football as the fan base and is considering a change of direction.

Here’s hoping.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, December 14, 2022, 09:44:56
Never took to Garner and never will, personalityless individual who did well for us under extreme conditions. Fair play for what he achieved with us but he was another "meh" manager for me, much like Mark Cooper or Luke Williams.

I also dont think anyone could begrudge him for leaving for a much bigger club, in a higher division closer to his home.

But I would not want him back, has the personality of a sloth and seemed to be as appreciative of our fanbase as Lee Power was at times.

I agree with what you’ve said with regards to Garner but I feel a lot of that at the time got brushed under the carpet because we had McKirdy who was the complete opposite.

So Garner didn’t really need to pander to the fanbase or have any personality because McKirdy had it in spades.

Obviously winning football matches helped Garner massively. I’m well past caring about our managers personality if I’m honest, I’d gladly support Boris Johnson if he won us football matches….


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, December 14, 2022, 12:53:47
if I’m honest, I’d gladly support Boris Johnson if he won us football matches….
Ouch you stepped over the line with that! :D


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Tuesday, December 20, 2022, 09:11:41
Dean Holden set to get the Charlton job. Fans must be delighted!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, December 20, 2022, 09:36:12
Dean Holden is never who I think he is. I think of him as a 80/90s footballer…

Oldham had another player called Holden in the early 90s right? (Richard maybe?)


Title: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycli
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 20, 2022, 09:45:52
I keep thinking Dean Holdsworth myself

@dv yes: Richard (Rick) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Holden


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Qunk on Tuesday, December 20, 2022, 09:49:28
Dean Holden is never who I think he is. I think of him as a 80/90s footballer…

Oldham had another player called Holden in the early 90s right? (Richard maybe?)


I totally know what you mean. Does he have a curtain style haircut in your recollection?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, December 20, 2022, 09:53:38
I keep thinking Dean Holdsworth myself


He's the one who shagged Linsey Dawn Mackenzie in his range rover isn't he?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, December 20, 2022, 09:55:04
I totally know what you mean. Does he have a curtain style haircut in your recollection?

Mixture between curtains and a mullet….


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, December 20, 2022, 09:56:38
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/E4QAAOSwCbFfwWKY/s-l500.jpg)


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Qunk on Tuesday, December 20, 2022, 10:03:34
Ah, it was Dean Holdsworth I had in mind.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Miles Mayhem on Tuesday, December 20, 2022, 10:15:01
I wonder if Linsey had Richard in mind in Deans Range Rover


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Saturday, December 24, 2022, 10:36:53
AFC Wimbledon's sister club appoint Leeds assistant coach Mark Jackson as manager.

I like the approach of plucking a highly rated coach from the PL / PL Academy system.

Hoping of course that SL will lead us to glory this season & that he has a very successful tenure here.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: anglia red on Tuesday, December 27, 2022, 14:46:19
Dean Smith gone from Norwich


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, December 27, 2022, 14:50:06
Interesting one, Norwich are 5th, but a long way off the top two.

Made me think of this from yesterday's matchday thread...

No team in the lower leagues would sack a manager whilst the team is 5th. He isnt going anywhere



Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Tuesday, December 27, 2022, 15:51:29
Interesting one, Norwich are 5th, but a long way off the top two.

Made me think of this from yesterday's matchday thread...



Expectation is so high at a club like Norwich i would imagine!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, December 27, 2022, 15:57:42
Pearson can't have too long left at City.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 27, 2022, 16:10:26
Interesting one, Norwich are 5th, but a long way off the top two.

Made me think of this from yesterday's matchday thread...
I was thinking the same, also the similar applies to Peterborough in L1 who were 3rd (now 8th) at the start of the shit run without a win in the last 6 games whos manager McCann is walking the tightrope.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, December 27, 2022, 16:19:01
Present league position shouldn’t be an indicator of imminent change of manager. Overall, this season has been a huge bore fest. It’s got to the stage now where I dread Lindsey actually getting us up and having to put up with another season of the crap served up on the pitch.

Surely nobody - fans, management, owner - can be happy with the ‘style’ of football.

‘Let me entertain you’ it’s not.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, December 27, 2022, 16:21:45
It's certainly not the fast exciting football we were promised.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, December 27, 2022, 16:32:15
Present league position shouldn’t be an indicator of imminent change of manager. Overall, this season has been a huge bore fest. It’s got to the stage now where I dread Lindsey actually getting us up and having to put up with another season of the crap served up on the pitch.

Surely nobody - fans, management, owner - can be happy with the ‘style’ of football.

‘Let me entertain you’ it’s not.

People will turn up to watch a winning team (I’m aware we aren’t one of those either)
Don’t get this notion of going to football to be ‘entertained’ we aren’t  neutrals from Singapore or something.

Nothing is better than winning.
I’d rather watch a winning team than an entertaining team.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, December 27, 2022, 16:36:00
Don’t get this notion of going to football to be ‘entertained’ we aren’t  neutrals from Singapore or something.

Weirdly there were a couple of asian lads full on instagraming the ground on their way out before Walsalls winner went in. Can't imagine they were thrilled with their decision.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 27, 2022, 16:38:14
People will turn up to watch a winning team (I’m aware we aren’t one of those either)
Don’t get this notion of going to football to be ‘entertained’ we aren’t  neutrals from Singapore or something.

Nothing is better than winning.
I’d rather watch a winning team than an entertaining team.


Seconded


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Posh Red on Tuesday, December 27, 2022, 16:51:45
People will turn up to watch a winning team (I’m aware we aren’t one of those either)
Don’t get this notion of going to football to be ‘entertained’ we aren’t  neutrals from Singapore or something.

Nothing is better than winning.
I’d rather watch a winning team than an entertaining team.


Winning games of football is all that it’s about, it’s a bonus to have a team that’s entertaining as well.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, December 27, 2022, 17:52:27
This is what’s got us in this position

‘ “There’s a chance that we might not get the results we like, but we have to keep playing football the right way, because that showcases talent in the best possible way. It’s important that we play the right way so that we can showcase talent” - Sandro Di Michele #STFC’


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, December 27, 2022, 18:24:23
This is what’s got us in this position

‘ “There’s a chance that we might not get the results we like, but we have to keep playing football the right way, because that showcases talent in the best possible way. It’s important that we play the right way so that we can showcase talent” - Sandro Di Michele #STFC’

All well and good if you want to tread water in L2 with players and a coaching staff not capable of getting out of that league.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Pericardinho on Tuesday, December 27, 2022, 18:36:15
I don't get it though.

Nobody's going to sign any of our players based on successful pass percentages.

They're going to sign them on output. Goals, Assists, Chances created.

If the season ended today at the half way point, the only clubs higher up the chain who might consider spending money on one of our players would be on Wakeling. And even that is a push now given he's been fairly average since signing his new contract.

So if we aren't getting promoted, and we also aren't putting anybody in the shop window, that's a 0/2 missions completed and doesn't bode well for the management team.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Abrahammer on Tuesday, December 27, 2022, 19:48:37
People will turn up to watch a winning team (I’m aware we aren’t one of those either)
Don’t get this notion of going to football to be ‘entertained’ we aren’t  neutrals from Singapore or something.

Nothing is better than winning.
I’d rather watch a winning team than an entertaining team.


Yep, entertainment is a bonus. The aim of competitive sport is to win first and foremost





Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: digby on Tuesday, December 27, 2022, 20:05:21
This is what’s got us in this position

‘ “There’s a chance that we might not get the results we like, but we have to keep playing football the right way, because that showcases talent in the best possible way. It’s important that we play the right way so that we can showcase talent” - Sandro Di Michele #STFC’

If that's what he actually said, then I don't want that person running the football side of my club !  What a clown !  A winning side and success on the pitch is all the fans want - and if you achieve that then it's likely your players have performed reasonably well and are more likely to be coveted by other teams !

Thinking the selling of 'assets' is more important than results or entertaining is ridiculous, and could become a cancer spreading through the club if that idea is adopted by others within the setup !   :suicide:


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Frigby Daser on Tuesday, December 27, 2022, 20:15:45
Surely he didn’t say that? If he did, then the man is in the wrong job.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, December 27, 2022, 20:24:17
Remember the outrage when Evans was linked with the job, he probably would have got us promoted but not playing the Swindon way!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 27, 2022, 22:14:22
Surely he didn’t say that? If he did, then the man is in the wrong job.

According to someone on Twitter "Yep, I paid to hear him say it in the data-driven episode of the documentary series."


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Outletred on Wednesday, December 28, 2022, 00:25:14
Lindsey just has to go plain and simple

A Wellens type experienced manager would have us in the top 3 now- instead of the teams below us win their games in hand then we will be mid table which I think is the best we will finish under this management

If the ethos of the club is sell on players at a profit- it ain’t working as no player realistically currently would make us a good fee as none of them are at their best under this shit show of a management team


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Robinz on Wednesday, December 28, 2022, 06:38:27
Unfortunately I have to agree with you Outletred
SL does sound like a likable type of guy.  A type of person you can trust and rely on
The type of guy who does not mind losing as long as he does not cause problems.
A character type who is not a football manager.
We were so unlucky not to get Wellens back.
Sorry Scott you need to go.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Wednesday, December 28, 2022, 11:20:15
The facebook page is a sight to behold; Lindsey has gone from "Super Scott, knowning what we need"  to a clown, a c*nt and useless within a couple of games.
I understand people feel the need to criticise a manager but the unproportional reactions and personal insults are really rather stupid, and extremely childish.





Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Wednesday, December 28, 2022, 11:24:11
The facebook page is a sight to behold; Lindsey has gone from "Super Scott, knowning what we need"  to a clown, a c*nt and useless within a couple of games.
I understand people feel the need to criticise a manager but the unproportional reactions and personal insults are really rather stupid, and extremely childish.





Then they give out suggestions like Holloway, Tisdale and Warnock to replace him. Makes my eyes bleed


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Riddick on Wednesday, December 28, 2022, 11:29:47
Scott is what everyone knows he is, a good coach. Not a Head Coach or Manager.

Which comes back to Sandros extensive search and review that saw Lyndsey get the job without even being interviewed!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Oaksey Moonraker on Wednesday, December 28, 2022, 11:53:31
Whilst the jury is out on Lindsey and performances/results need to improve, is he doing any worse than the journeyman managers we had in recent years like Flitcroft, Phil Brown or Sheridan?

As for a Wellens type manager. Wellens was unproven when he came here with the relegation, in difficult circumstances, at Oldham. Getting those one or two key players in made all the difference with Doyle and Grant.

Not sure he is going anywhere quickly and the run of poor home performances mirrored what happened under Garner last season. It might need something to click like Garner got the 5-2 vs Northampton last year and the feel good around the City game


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, December 28, 2022, 12:05:20
Unlike the 5-2 at Mansfield only a short while ago


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Oaksey Moonraker on Wednesday, December 28, 2022, 12:57:00
The 5-2 on NYD last season did get a feel good factor going again after a run of 1 win in 5 at home and the Stevenage 0-0.

Then Garner followed it up with draws at home to Rovers and Crawley and losing to Exeter.

Maybe that feel good factor didn't last long but Garner picked up enough away wins to keep the pressure off.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Bogus Dave on Wednesday, December 28, 2022, 14:15:46
We could beat good teams last season, but trip up against mediocre teams - which suggested quality, but not consistency

Our form against the top half so far this season is poor, which is why equivalent points doesn’t feel the same year on year. It’s not looked like a side capable of really challenging with the others at the top of this division


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Bogus Dave on Wednesday, December 28, 2022, 14:20:33
To evidence - after 23 games last season, we’d won 7 out of 11 vs top half teams. This time round it’s twice


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, December 28, 2022, 14:50:37
Lindsey just has to go plain and simple

A Wellens type experienced manager would have us in the top 3 now- instead of the teams below us win their games in hand then we will be mid table which I think is the best we will finish under this management

If the ethos of the club is sell on players at a profit- it ain’t working as no player realistically currently would make us a good fee as none of them are at their best under this shit show of a management team

There is no way this squad is a top 3 capable squad, certainly not a current season one anyway.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, December 28, 2022, 15:07:16
I think I’m right on this.

Both Crawley and Crewe have lost every game since beating us.

That puts a bit of perspective on how horrendously awful we are at times.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, December 28, 2022, 15:19:19
Sorry, this is a bit of a statto post, but I have far too much time on my hands today, and started looking at the pretty impressive array of statistics on WhoScored (https://www.whoscored.com/Regions/252/Tournaments/9/England-League-Two) to try and work out what someone (like say, our current hierarchy) who was statistically inclined would make of our season to date.

The interesting thing that stands out to me is how similar we are on almost all of the metrics to Leyton Orient. Unfortunately, the metrics where we differ are points (17 behind), goals scored (9 behind) and goals conceded (11 more), all of which are fairly crucial.

On the next tier down though, we're almost identical - STFC are second in the league for average possession, pass completion % and second bottom for tackles made per game. In all three cases, the teams either side of us are Salford (10th) and Leyton Orient (1st). When comparing to Orient, our passing style is almost identical (both 81% short passes, compare to Stevenage on 69%). Orient have even more of the play in the middle third of the pitch than we do (although both way above the divisional average).

Think someone posted this a few days ago - https://theanalyst.com/eu/2022/08/league-two-stats-2022-23/ and it's a super interesting page if anyone is a bit of a statto. It generally tells the same story - Salford, Orient and ourselves are by a distance the most possession based sides in the division. One of those sides is performing much better than the other two. Maybe Richie Wellens is good at this. Or maybe he's just lucky, not that the difference really matters!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, December 28, 2022, 15:33:19
I am not saying Wellens is a great Manager, but maybe he has a better approach in delivering on those stats.  BY an large I seem to remember him shunning the youth/reserves to a degree.  He did sign younger players at times, but ones who could deliver now.  He didn't seem that worried about developing players.  His approach was to do well now, not worry about 5 years time.  I am not sure he'd fit with our overall philosophy, but I reckon he'd have pulled together a more coherent squad for THIS season.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: NotHarryAgombar on Wednesday, December 28, 2022, 20:49:19
The thing a number of posters have chosen to ignore is that we have been significantly disrupted by injury and illness in recent weeks - we have played a left back at centre half for the last month, and our best two midfielders Gladwin and Williams, one was at the World Cup and the other injured.
The squad is not as deep as some like to think - or choose to say in order to justify the ludicrous “Lindsey out” talk - and despite those challenges we are still 5th.
I agree we need more goal power, but don’t forget our striker options have also been affected by injury for long periods.
There is a tendency to overreact to every result - win or lose. If we stick with SL and add some quality and depth to the squad in January we will at least make the play offs.
My final point - to those who say “sack SL” - who would you appoint who is available and guaranteed to do a better job? Generally if a club is sacking a manager they have the replacement lined up. It is easy to say “sack him” but I haven’t seen anyone offer a viable alternative yet!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, December 28, 2022, 21:04:07
The thing a number of posters have chosen to ignore is that we have been significantly disrupted by injury and illness in recent weeks - we have played a left back at centre half for the last month, and our best two midfielders Gladwin and Williams, one was at the World Cup and the other injured.
The squad is not as deep as some like to think - or choose to say in order to justify the ludicrous “Lindsey out” talk - and despite those challenges we are still 5th.
I agree we need more goal power, but don’t forget our striker options have also been affected by injury for long periods.
There is a tendency to overreact to every result - win or lose. If we stick with SL and add some quality and depth to the squad in January we will at least make the play offs.
My final point - to those who say “sack SL” - who would you appoint who is available and guaranteed to do a better job? Generally if a club is sacking a manager they have the replacement lined up. It is easy to say “sack him” but I haven’t seen anyone offer a viable alternative yet!


I think you make fair points with regards to the injuries having affected team selections, one I’ve made myself a few times.

However, personally feel a lot of our players are interchangeable and the tactics / game plan are / is the issue - no matter who we have available.

Take Mondays game. Which of our injured players would have changed that result from a defeat to win??


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, December 28, 2022, 21:05:31
Like let’s say Jephcott is our best and main striker.
Would we have won Monday with him fully fit and playing?
Same argument but with Clayton and the defence.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, December 28, 2022, 21:17:56
With Clayton back, would we have gone to a back 4 with BT left back? Would that have worked better.

Maybe. Probably wouldn't have changed it though it gives an option


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DMC on Thursday, December 29, 2022, 08:56:31
The thing a number of posters have chosen to ignore is that we have been significantly disrupted by injury and illness in recent weeks - we have played a left back at centre half for the last month, and our best two midfielders Gladwin and Williams, one was at the World Cup and the other injured.
The squad is not as deep as some like to think - or choose to say in order to justify the ludicrous “Lindsey out” talk - and despite those challenges we are still 5th.
I agree we need more goal power, but don’t forget our striker options have also been affected by injury for long periods.
There is a tendency to overreact to every result - win or lose. If we stick with SL and add some quality and depth to the squad in January we will at least make the play offs.
My final point - to those who say “sack SL” - who would you appoint who is available and guaranteed to do a better job? Generally if a club is sacking a manager they have the replacement lined up. It is easy to say “sack him” but I haven’t seen anyone offer a viable alternative yet!

I don't think people are ignoring it but on Monday watched a game yesterday where we had a right back at left whilst we had 2 left backs playing center half and in a number 8. The player who started left-back first game is now our right back and the left-back that day started upfront Monday, We then took off our lone striker for a 5ft wide striker. He had a full squad to choose from Monday position wise and still chose to shoe horn players in. He told us that Khan was unfroppable 3 games ago and leaves him unused on his return from injury. He is making some really odd decisions despite the illness and injury. Also, if there was illness as he says then more fool him not making the changes to the team


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Thursday, December 29, 2022, 09:31:22
for a 5ft wide striker.

Bit harsh on RHM

Even fat boy Razor Ruddock was never 5ft wide!!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Pookemon on Thursday, December 29, 2022, 09:52:51
The thing a number of posters have chosen to ignore is that we have been significantly disrupted by injury and illness in recent weeks - we have played a left back at centre half for the last month, and our best two midfielders Gladwin and Williams, one was at the World Cup and the other injured.
The squad is not as deep as some like to think - or choose to say in order to justify the ludicrous “Lindsey out” talk - and despite those challenges we are still 5th.
I agree we need more goal power, but don’t forget our striker options have also been affected by injury for long periods.
There is a tendency to overreact to every result - win or lose. If we stick with SL and add some quality and depth to the squad in January we will at least make the play offs.
My final point - to those who say “sack SL” - who would you appoint who is available and guaranteed to do a better job? Generally if a club is sacking a manager they have the replacement lined up. It is easy to say “sack him” but I haven’t seen anyone offer a viable alternative yet!

It's not an overreaction to a short term blip.

We are 5th only because we have played more games than everyone else.  By the time others catch up we will be 9th or 10th.

Our form is awful, no home win in 2 and a half months, 3 goals in 6 games is relegation fodder, not a team looking for promotion.

There are clear tactical deficiencies in the way we set up as others have described and we can't defend or score set pieces.   We don't counter attack, nearly always turning back, rarely get 1 on 1s with a striker in front of goal.   No-one runs ahead of the forwards from midfield, but we do get 6 stood in a static line up front occasionally which never works.   We've failed to score in nearly half our games and have had starting 11s at home with 6 defenders in it and  he's continually out thought by by other managers.

I could go on.   We started poorly looking like a lower mid table team, then scraped a few wins culminating in a cracking performance at mansfield but that has not been followed up so has to be considered a one off.

If he had tried things during games, been more pragmatic at times, or showed any sign of improving individuals or the collective I could forgive him, but we can't continue to trust a process that clearly isn't working.

In terms of saying that there aren't any replacements, that is a stupid comment,  there are so many out of work managers, coaches and recently retired pros who would jump at the job,  we're a big team in this league.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Thursday, December 29, 2022, 09:55:04
…let’s not forget how few people were jumping at the chance to manager us in the summer.

That’s kinda how we got here.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Pookemon on Thursday, December 29, 2022, 10:00:01
…let’s not forget how few people were jumping at the chance to manager us in the summer.

That’s kinda how we got here.
Thought there were many but only SL agreed with Sandro's brief and there may be a reason for that.



Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Thursday, December 29, 2022, 10:03:26
Thought there were many but only SL agreed with Sandro's brief and there may be a reason for that.



Perhaps. It’s a theory.
If it’s true then sacking Lindsey now and looking for a replacement will still bring the same issues as the summer, no?


Title: Re: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, December 29, 2022, 10:09:51
Thought there were many but only SL agreed with Sandro's brief and there may be a reason for that.
On that basis, who are you bringing in to replace SL then?

Not saying he is doing well  but no point sacking him if there is no one better wh would realistically come in and take over, its not like we are fighting relegation and any change has a chance of working and us worth risking.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Pookemon on Thursday, December 29, 2022, 10:10:32
Perhaps. It’s a theory.
If it’s true then sacking Lindsey now and looking for a replacement will still bring the same issues as the summer, no?
Or a lesson may have been learned and ideology adapted.

One things for sure we can't go on like this, would be a travesty to lose the 3-4 thousand extra fans since Clem arrived through boredom and lack of hope.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Batch on Thursday, December 29, 2022, 10:16:01
Crawley part company with Etherington and assistant Simon Davies


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Pookemon on Thursday, December 29, 2022, 10:31:33
Crawley part company with Etherington and assistant Simon Davies

A month and no transfer window - harsh

Playef 4 lost 3 including hartlepool at home.  Only win was against us!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Thursday, December 29, 2022, 10:34:49
And they started so well comfortably beating us!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Thursday, December 29, 2022, 10:40:54
Thought there were many but only SL agreed with Sandro's brief and there may be a reason for that.



Let's not forget Andrew Crofts & Ryan Mason were rumoured to be who we wanted but wages got in the way.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, December 29, 2022, 10:42:34
Crawley part company with Etherington and assistant Simon Davies
Finacial crisis there apparently.


Title: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycli
Post by: Batch on Thursday, December 29, 2022, 10:47:13
not enough idiots to buy the fools gold nft.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, December 29, 2022, 10:59:27
And we managed to lose to these clowns.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Thursday, December 29, 2022, 11:47:42
They should get Shezza in.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Thursday, December 29, 2022, 14:18:21
Perhaps. It’s a theory.
If it’s true then sacking Lindsey now and looking for a replacement will still bring the same issues as the summer, no?

Only if there was s no one lined up to replace him. There generally is but we’re Swindon Town, we tend to do things differently.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, December 29, 2022, 18:09:24
Don’t know how close we were - or at all - to employing Michael Carrick as manager. He’s taken Middlesbrough from relegation spot in Championship to challenging for a PO spot.

Aaaahh. What might have been.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, December 29, 2022, 18:17:10
Don’t know how close we were - or at all - to employing Michael Carrick as manager. He’s taken Middlesbrough from relegation spot in Championship to challenging for a PO spot.

Aaaahh. What might have been.
Probably wages would have been an issue with him too. Lincoln wanted him but were put off by his wage demands.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DMC on Thursday, December 29, 2022, 18:31:38
Don’t know how close we were - or at all - to employing Michael Carrick as manager. He’s taken Middlesbrough from relegation spot in Championship to challenging for a PO spot.

Aaaahh. What might have been.
Nowhere near, he should be the example to how we should really be more realistic. He turned down Fleetwood i believe and another championship club before taking that job. There were a few we were linked with  by fans that was madness


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, December 29, 2022, 18:37:40
Nowhere near, he should be the example to how we should really be more realistic. He turned down Fleetwood i believe and another championship club before taking that job. There were a few we were linked with  by fans that was madness
I think he was linked by fans was based upon him being close to the Lincoln job and Lincoln only being 1 division higher than us, despite the fact that they couldnt afford his wages, he was never a realistic target.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Thursday, December 29, 2022, 18:40:09
He was linked to us because one of us probably said ‘Carricks looking for a job’ and that’s all it was based on.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Thursday, December 29, 2022, 19:39:14
Carrick was a dream. We've attracted good managers early in their career before but wages was always going to be a struggle. You was hoping a mixture of Carrick knowing the club, seeing some potential there and Clem seeing the potential and pushing the boat out.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Monday, January 2, 2023, 21:50:06
Cowley brothers sacked from Pompey


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DMC on Tuesday, January 3, 2023, 08:50:02
Carrick was a dream. We've attracted good managers early in their career before but wages was always going to be a struggle. You was hoping a mixture of Carrick knowing the club, seeing some potential there and Clem seeing the potential and pushing the boat out.
To give you an idea though, Crofts at Brighton was all but ready to come here as manager, and then Brighton came in with a new contract believed to be around 6 xs more than what a manager gets in this league. Madness now what coaches at these clubs are earning


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, January 3, 2023, 09:05:20
To give you an idea though, Crofts at Brighton was all but ready to come here as manager, and then Brighton came in with a new contract believed to be around 6 xs more than what a manager gets in this league. Madness now what coaches at these clubs are earning

Plus, so many more positions available than 20 years ago.
Better wages & better job security.

Plus, with how short term managers are these days you can see why they all move on first chance they get.
A lot of people wondered why Garner would go to Charlton - a seemingly basket case club who go through managers rather than stay here with some sort of stability.

Well, at Charlton he’s done what? 6 months work & has now gotten a pay off.

It’s why so many managers go to Watford. They probably get 2/3 years wages for 3 months work.

It’s probably more financially beneficial to be a shit manager who goes from job to job due to the pay off for being sacked.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, January 3, 2023, 09:39:56
A lot of people wondered why Garner would go to Charlton -...

Well, at Charlton he’s done what? 6 months work & has now gotten a pay off.

The way I saw Garner leaving was that he'd be under pressure here to get promoted, he'd be under pressure there to get promoted - they are a bigger club and presumably pay more.

The fans never really took to him here anyway.

I'd love to know if there were any STFC issues that pushed him away too- did he know things were going to change recruitment strategy wise. Did Chorley know... I guess we'll never find out.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, January 3, 2023, 09:46:10
The way I saw Garner leaving was that he'd be under pressure here to get promoted, he'd be under pressure there to get promoted - they are a bigger club and presumably pay more.

The fans never really took to him here anyway.

I'd love to know if there were any STFC issues that pushed him away too- did he know things were going to change recruitment strategy wise. Did Chorley know... I guess we'll never find out.

He’d have been under pressure from the fans for sure but he was last season as well but obviously Clem stuck with him.

Clem thus far has proven to be quite a loyal employer to be fair.

Probably lots of factors as why Garner picked Charlton over Swindon but I doubt the probability of being sacked by Charlton in 6 months was something he was bothered about - for him it’s a big pay day I expect.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, January 3, 2023, 09:50:04
To give you an idea though, Crofts at Brighton was all but ready to come here as manager, and then Brighton came in with a new contract believed to be around 6 xs more than what a manager gets in this league. Madness now what coaches at these clubs are earning

Apologies if going over old ground here, but that means Crofts was our first choice as we clearly offered and it sounds like he accepted terms before Brighton gazumped us. I thought the message from the board was that Scott Lindsey was (always?) our #1 choice?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, January 3, 2023, 09:51:36
I remember reading that he had a house somewhere around SE London so that may have been a contributing factor. On the surface Charlton are a big club with lots of history but like Watford and it's owners it's become one of the most unstable jobs in English football.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, January 3, 2023, 09:53:29
Apologies if going over old ground here, but that means Crofts was our first choice as we clearly offered and it sounds like he accepted terms before Brighton gazumped us. I thought the message from the board was that Scott Lindsey was (always?) our #1 choice?

The length of time it dragged on I would say Lindsey was the only choice with the package that was on offer.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, January 3, 2023, 09:54:24
Apologies if going over old ground here, but that means Crofts was our first choice as we clearly offered and it sounds like he accepted terms before Brighton gazumped us. I thought the message from the board was that Scott Lindsey was (always?) our #1 choice?

Wasn’t that more the spill coming from Sandro, as opposed to the board/Clem.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, January 3, 2023, 09:56:19
No board/manager in history has ever said that their appointee was fourth choice though. Didn't the FA try and pretend Steve McLaren was first choice when they'd offered the job to Scolari?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, January 3, 2023, 10:06:27
I remember reading that he had a house somewhere around SE London so that may have been a contributing factor. On the surface Charlton are a big club with lots of history but like Watford and it's owners it's become one of the most unstable jobs in English football.

Not sure we can claim the high ground here on our 7th manager of the 2020's Only 2 of which have been caretakers) with the fans now clamouring for an 8th.

How long a contract is Lindsey on as that may also be feeding into Clem's thoughts.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, January 3, 2023, 10:07:32
Sandro spin, Crofts was lined up, Brighton stepped in, Crofts backed out - easily spinnable to say that we didn't actually offer any contract and he turned it down so that you can say that Lindsey was our first choice.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, January 3, 2023, 10:11:18
No board/manager in history has ever said that their appointee was fourth choice though. Didn't the FA try and pretend Steve McLaren was first choice when they'd offered the job to Scolari?


Sandro spin, Crofts was lined up, Brighton stepped in, Crofts backed out - easily spinnable to say that we didn't actually offer any contract and he turned it down so that you can say that Lindsey was our first choice.

Absolutely agree on both counts. I guess when the board have put the 'open and honest' mantra over the club's head it doesn't exactly scream that, but I totally understand why it was spun in the way it was.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, January 3, 2023, 10:15:03
Not sure we can claim the high ground here on our 7th manager of the 2020's Only 2 of which have been caretakers) with the fans now clamouring for an 8th.

Arguably none of those managers have been sacked though. Sheridan probably closest, but Wellens, Garner and McGreal (remember him?) all definitely left of their own accord for better things.

Last manager we properly sacked was Phil Brown in November 2018.

Part of the managerial instability is that anyone who has a half decent six months here seems to get a move up the chain.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, January 3, 2023, 10:15:59
I guess when the board have put the 'open and honest' mantra over the club's head

Surely that isn't unlimited in scope though.

As you say, its completely understandable in this case.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, January 3, 2023, 10:36:43
Club can say what they like but if it takes you 6 weeks to appointment someone already at the club - there is absolutely no chance in hell he was first choice nor is there any chance in hell you will convince anyone otherwise.


I mean if Lindsey had spent the summer in a Greek monastery up a mountain - I’d somewhat get it but…

If you’re appointing someone at club (and who is first choice) you do it straight away and bang on about ‘continuity’


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, January 3, 2023, 10:47:54
Cowley brothers sacked from Pompey
My Pompey mate says the football under them has been shocking.

One trick pony at Lincoln, bully boy manager and bully boy tactics don't cut it outside of L1. Told Huddersfield and Pompey  fans he only played that was at Lincoln because that was the players that were avaiable to him, then proceeds to play the same style at Huddersfield and Pompey.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, January 3, 2023, 10:54:07
Club can say what they like but if it takes you 6 weeks to appointment someone already at the club - there is absolutely no chance in hell he was first choice nor is there any chance in hell you will convince anyone otherwise.


I mean if Lindsey had spent the summer in a Greek monastery up a mountain - I’d somewhat get it but…

If you’re appointing someone at club (and who is first choice) you do it straight away and bang on about ‘continuity’


My thoughts exactly, if Lindsey was always the first choice they would have appointment him straight away.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Pookemon on Tuesday, January 3, 2023, 10:55:08
Arguably none of those managers have been sacked though. Sheridan probably closest, but Wellens, Garner and McGreal (remember him?) all definitely left of their own accord for better things.

Last manager we properly sacked was Phil Brown in November 2018.

Part of the managerial instability is that anyone who has a half decent six months here seems to get a move up the chain.
McGreal would do a far better job than Lyndsey.  Did a decent job with no money at Colchester and the majority of their fans were sorry to see him go.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Posh Red on Tuesday, January 3, 2023, 10:55:31
Sandro spin, Crofts was lined up, Brighton stepped in, Crofts backed out - easily spinnable to say that we didn't actually offer any contract and he turned it down so that you can say that Lindsey was our first choice.

They also thought he was going to Charlton with Garner so wasn’t really an option.

It was only when those negotiations broke down he became available.

Playing Devils Advocate that also meant we would have had to pay him off if we appointed a new coach


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, January 3, 2023, 11:14:56
Maybe Brighton will let us have Crofts as a "loan manager" until the end of the season :)


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, January 3, 2023, 12:13:30

The fans never really took to him here anyway.


Or there


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Posh Red on Tuesday, January 3, 2023, 20:38:27
Lampard must be on borrowed time, 4-0 down at home to Brighton


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, January 4, 2023, 11:11:49
Grant McCann is about to be given his jotters from Peterborough.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Wednesday, January 4, 2023, 11:16:47
Job for Darren Ferguson.....again😀


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, January 4, 2023, 11:28:52
Job for Darren Ferguson.....again😀

They do love giving him a job right enough!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: theakston2k on Wednesday, January 4, 2023, 11:48:10
Grant McCann is about to be given his jotters from Peterborough.
Similar position to us in their league once all the games in hand have happened. So a decent precedent for getting rid of Lindsey.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, January 4, 2023, 11:48:12
Grant McCann is about to be given his jotters from Peterborough.
Hes been on the edge of it for weeks apparently, could kybosh any deal for Joe Tomlinson though.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, January 4, 2023, 12:04:00
Job for Darren Ferguson.....again😀

Seems that way!

"Hearing Grant McCann has left #PUFC and that Darren Ferguson is set to return for his FOURTH stint as manager."


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, January 4, 2023, 12:10:07
Seems that way!

"Hearing Grant McCann has left #PUFC and that Darren Ferguson is set to return for his FOURTH stint as manager."

Back till end of season apparently, at which stage he will probably leave by mutual consent for the 4th time.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, January 6, 2023, 17:04:48
David Wagner in at the Canaries.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, January 6, 2023, 17:07:01
David Wagner in at the Canaries.
Isn’t he busy fighting in Ukraine?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Nemo on Monday, January 9, 2023, 16:04:18
Having spent 6 years wasting Belgium's Golden Generation of talent, football's biggest charlatan* Roberto Martinez gets the Portugal job, where he'll no doubt squander their promising young players (and that old fella up top).



* Probably not, but he's certainly an absolutely chronic underperformer and everything his critics think Southgate is.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, January 10, 2023, 06:39:05
Luke Williams is fav for the Pompey gig


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Tuesday, January 10, 2023, 07:30:43
Rory Delap leaves Stoke as first team coach with immediate effect


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Abrahammer on Tuesday, January 10, 2023, 08:37:07
The world’s greatest throw-in coach


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, January 10, 2023, 09:55:46
Rory Delap leaves Stoke as first team coach with immediate effect
Next stop Swindon....

Luke Williams is fav for the Pompey gig
I know hes done well at County but blimey!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: ibelieveinmrreeves on Saturday, January 14, 2023, 21:24:47
Mark Hudson gets the heave-ho at Cardiff.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Batch on Monday, January 23, 2023, 15:27:06
Lampard gone.. shock

(BBC reporting, not official from EFC)


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, January 23, 2023, 16:03:34
FA appealing John Yems 18 month ban.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: THE FLASH on Monday, January 23, 2023, 16:31:51
FA appealing John Yems 18 month ban.

I hope they do.

There will be at least 92 clubs queuing up to offer him a role in England alone.

Hes finished...rightfully so...everyone knows it.

Political posturing.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, January 23, 2023, 17:00:30
I hope they do.

There will be at least 92 clubs queuing up to offer him a role in England alone.

Hes finished...rightfully so...everyone knows it.

Political posturing.

Flash was on Countryfile last night!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, January 25, 2023, 12:38:45
Ian Burchnall gone from FGR


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, January 25, 2023, 12:48:00
Ian Burchnall gone from FGR

Make our appointment quick, I could see FGR looking for the same kind of profile...


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, January 25, 2023, 13:47:17
Make our appointment quick, I could see FGR looking for the same kind of profile...
Absolutely and probably paying more in wages.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Wednesday, January 25, 2023, 16:27:15
Duncan Ferguson favourite for Forest Green job!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Kinky Tom on Wednesday, January 25, 2023, 16:30:28
Don't tell DV


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, January 25, 2023, 16:39:15
It may be a horrible case of judging a book by its cover, but Big Dunc might be my idea of the world's least vegan footballer.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Wednesday, January 25, 2023, 16:58:27
It may be a horrible case of judging a book by its cover, but Big Dunc might be my idea of the world's least vegan footballer.

Hopefully he ends up punching Dale Vince.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Posh Red on Wednesday, January 25, 2023, 17:11:05
Hopefully he ends up punching Dale Vince.

Oh yes please, can it be televised too


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, January 26, 2023, 09:01:58
Early reports suggest FGR are going to appoint deadly Dunc today. Div is going to self-combust isn't he?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Thursday, January 26, 2023, 09:36:35
Early reports suggest FGR are going to appoint deadly Dunc today. Div is going to self-combust isn't he?

I don’t know if FGR have approached him or whether he approached them - but either way, it certainly gives of the vibes he *might* have been interested in coming here.

Obviously this is the bit where someone puts me in my place by knowing exactly what FGR will be paying Ferguson, what their budget is and how it compares to ours.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, January 26, 2023, 09:37:54
Early reports suggest FGR are going to appoint deadly Dunc today. Div is going to self-combust isn't he?
:D TBH that is the sort of appointment that could easily go either way, he could be great or he could just have a fight with himself and get sacked.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, January 26, 2023, 09:42:12
:D TBH that is the sort of appointment that could easily go either way, he could be great or he could just have a fight with himself and get sacked.

I think FGR are toast anyway so fair play to them for giving it a roll of the dice.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, January 26, 2023, 11:19:05
I think FGR are toast anyway so fair play to them for giving it a roll of the dice.
Indeed, it does prove that money doesnt always buy success though.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Abrahammer on Thursday, January 26, 2023, 11:22:09
Although one could argue that money has already brought them success, getting a village team into League 1


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, January 26, 2023, 11:24:09
Although one could argue that money has already brought them success, getting a village team into League 1
This is true, they have done well for a tiny club but have massive financial backing and to be a real ongoing success he will need to take them higher now.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Hyabb17 on Thursday, January 26, 2023, 12:15:00
This is true, they have done well for a tiny club but have massive financial backing and to be a real ongoing success he will need to take them higher now.

Can't wait to see Big Dunc in old town :-)


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, January 26, 2023, 12:33:18
Ferguson is a bit of a country lad isn't he so you'd imagine he'd love the countryside around Nailsworth.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Thursday, January 26, 2023, 13:40:04
Confirmed


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, January 26, 2023, 13:47:27
2 days! They obviously don’t have a Sandro.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Thursday, January 26, 2023, 13:53:51
2 days! They obviously don’t have a Sandro.
Nor a manager that left out of the blue either


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Million Pound Man on Thursday, January 26, 2023, 13:58:21
Nor a manager that left out of the blue either

According to the ITKers on here SL was close to getting sacked.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Hyabb17 on Thursday, January 26, 2023, 13:58:38
Nor a manager that left out of the blue either

Big Dunc said he had the approach two days ago, went down for talks & made up his mind yesterday! Amazing what can be achieved when the person in charge has an idea what they're doing.....


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: RobertT on Thursday, January 26, 2023, 18:26:23
I don’t know if FGR have approached him or whether he approached them - but either way, it certainly gives of the vibes he *might* have been interested in coming here.

Obviously this is the bit where someone puts me in my place by knowing exactly what FGR will be paying Ferguson, what their budget is and how it compares to ours.

They produce financial accounts.  While you cannot use that to determine any individual salary, you can see they were ploughing cash into the business via "sponsorship" to a level well beyond most if not all L2 clubs.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Thursday, January 26, 2023, 19:11:10
Kolo Toure sacked from Wigan


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Thursday, January 26, 2023, 19:19:11
They produce financial accounts.  While you cannot use that to determine any individual salary, you can see they were ploughing cash into the business via "sponsorship" to a level well beyond most if not all L2 clubs.

Max 50k per home game is £1.15m 22 players on £2k per week is £2.2m plus all the other expenses of running the club. Bare in mind not everyone of the 2500 fans are going to be paying £20 per game.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: RobertT on Thursday, January 26, 2023, 19:20:55
Max 50k per home game is £1.15m 22 players on £2k per week is £2.2m plus all the other expenses of running the club. Bare in mind not everyone of the 2500 fans are going to be paying £20 per game.

Which was my point - the accounts clearly show Ecotricity/Vince sending a wad their way each season to underpin the wage bill.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Thursday, January 26, 2023, 20:02:35
Which was my point - the accounts clearly show Ecotricity/Vince sending a wad their way each season to underpin the wage bill.

Agreed but you’ve taken the time to look at the accounts. Plenty wouldn’t.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: RobertT on Thursday, January 26, 2023, 20:54:10
I got irritated by a LinkedIn post by their CEO or some other important position congratulating themselves on their successes.  I took a gander and replied to him once the financials confirmed their Commercial success was Daddy.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Batch on Monday, February 6, 2023, 14:24:46
Looks like Jesse Marsch has gone from Leeds (confirmed now)


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, February 6, 2023, 14:26:25
Looks like Jesse Marsch has gone from Leeds (not confirmed yet)

Marsching off alone.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Batch on Monday, February 6, 2023, 14:27:54
Marsching off alone.


Nice.
---
Now confirmed he's gone.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, February 6, 2023, 14:44:06


Nice.
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Now confirmed he's gone.

Bielsa?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Nemo on Monday, February 6, 2023, 14:45:25
Bielsa?

Bielsa doesn't do mid-season. Everton wanted to appoint him and he said he'd sign, but manage the U23s until EOS and then take over the first team, which is a funny idea if nothing else.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, February 6, 2023, 14:51:38
Bielsa doesn't do mid-season. Everton wanted to appoint him and he said he'd sign, but manage the U23s until EOS and then take over the first team, which is a funny idea if nothing else.

I know, likley to be Corberán I imagine.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Monday, February 6, 2023, 18:49:38
Dyche would have been a good fit for Leeds.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Monday, February 6, 2023, 21:49:31
Dyche would have been a good fit for Leeds.
How about Jody Morris?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Monday, February 6, 2023, 21:56:31

How about Jody Morris?


What if this is all a tactical/strategic process?*  ;)

Everyone in relevant footy circles know that the Leeds dude is about to get the chop.
Swindon shrewdly sign Morris with a caveat of 'Leeds get first refusal at this stage'.

Morris gets "headhunted" by Leeds and publicly state he's the '...man we always wanted!'  or some bollocks.

Town get hefty compo for Morris.

Meanwhile Artell has been told this is the cunning plan (Baldrick) all along.
Town announce Artell.

Cue meltdown from STFC Facebook Fan page(s) whilst SdM counts out the compo like some Urban King - filling a money gun with one dollar bills, making it rain as Clem looks on with a shy chuckle.






*Disclaimer: If anyone thinks I'm being serious...please. It's purely a bit of light humour. Which seems to have escaped the TEF a lot in recent years



Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Robinz on Tuesday, February 7, 2023, 01:19:18
Interesting tale that is
Wilber Smith come home all is forgiven


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, February 7, 2023, 01:25:12
What if this is all a tactical/strategic process?*  ;)

Everyone in relevant footy circles know that the Leeds dude is about to get the chop.
Swindon shrewdly sign Morris with a caveat of 'Leeds get first refusal at this stage'.

Morris gets "headhunted" by Leeds and publicly state he's the '...man we always wanted!'  or some bollocks.

Town get hefty compo for Morris.

Meanwhile Artell has been told this is the cunning plan (Baldrick) all along.
Town announce Artell.

Cue meltdown from STFC Facebook Fan page(s) whilst SdM counts out the compo like some Urban King - filling a money gun with one dollar bills, making it rain as Clem looks on with a shy chuckle.






*Disclaimer: If anyone thinks I'm being serious...please. It's purely a bit of light humour. Which seems to have escaped the TEF a lot in recent years



Not sure Jody Morris is even allowed in Leeds anymore.
Let alone be welcomed.

He left under dubious circumstances in his playing days plus all that spygate stuff with Leeds & Derby a few years back.

Not that I thought your suggestion was serious but think the Leeds fans would kick off massively at Morris


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Tuesday, February 7, 2023, 18:59:16
Not sure Jody Morris is even allowed in Leeds anymore.
Let alone be welcomed.

Not that I thought your suggestion was serious but think the Leeds fans would kick off massively at Morris

Aye. Although that's never stopped clubs in the past appointing personnel based off what the fans think or may think/react (strangely and wrongly in my eyes).

Even more meltdown than my tongue in cheek musings initially thought then :)

#AnnounceArtell


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, February 8, 2023, 17:28:41
Mark Fotheringham gone from Huddersfield


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, February 12, 2023, 13:46:24
Nathan Jones Southampton


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Posh Red on Sunday, February 12, 2023, 14:24:47
Nathan Jones Southampton

We were discussing him yesterday, and thought that maybe he had one more week, after losing a game against 10 men where you had the lead.

His post match interview last week made him look a bit of a dick, and can’t imagine the players were very happy with him


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, February 12, 2023, 18:07:55
We were discussing him yesterday, and thought that maybe he had one more week, after losing a game against 10 men where you had the lead.

His post match interview last week made him look a bit of a dick, and can’t imagine the players were very happy with him

Very strange behaviour but that was probably down to stress after the constant abuse he was getting from the Southampton fans.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Sunday, February 12, 2023, 18:16:34
Very strange behaviour but that was probably down to stress after the constant abuse he was getting from the Southampton fans.

Doubt it. Nathan Jones is as mad as a box of frogs.
Very good manager, as long as it's Luton.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, February 12, 2023, 18:35:14
Doubt it. Nathan Jones is as mad as a box of frogs.
Very good manager, as long as it's Luton.

Piss poor from Southampton fans the way they treated him he was only there three months.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Posh Red on Sunday, February 12, 2023, 19:17:19
Piss poor from Southampton fans the way they treated him he was only there three months.

That would never happen at Swindon, oh wait 🤷🏼‍♂️


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, February 12, 2023, 19:20:21
That would never happen at Swindon, oh wait 🤷🏼‍♂️

The only one who would gave got that much abuse during a game would have been Sheriden.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Sunday, February 12, 2023, 19:23:48
The only one who would gave got that much abuse during a game would have been Sheriden.

Yeah, we sit in silence at games, come home and abuse our managers online.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, February 12, 2023, 19:32:22
Yeah, we sit in silence at games, come home and abuse our managers online.


That's because we're a polite bunch and know the managers don't go on social media!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, February 13, 2023, 13:52:41
Colin Wanker joins Huddersfield


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Monday, February 20, 2023, 13:10:22
Critchley gone from QPR

Now in talks with Gareth Ainsworth


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Monday, February 20, 2023, 13:15:07
Critchley gone from QPR

Now in talks with Gareth Ainsworth

Jody Morris to Wycombe


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Batch on Monday, February 20, 2023, 13:22:50
Jody Morris to Wycombe

Karl Robinson to Swindon

Mornington Unpleasant!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Monday, February 20, 2023, 18:26:46
Scott Lindsey to Oxford 😀


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Monday, February 20, 2023, 19:36:54
The lot down the A420 arent happy bunnies. Twitter is quite amusing at the moment


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Tuesday, February 21, 2023, 16:35:19
Ainsworth gone from Wycombe to QPR

Matt Bloomfield gone from Colchester to Wycombe


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, February 21, 2023, 17:07:54
Not the usual 6 fucking weeks then.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Wednesday, February 22, 2023, 09:35:51
Not the usual 6 fucking weeks then.

Amazing how virtually every other appointment is done in a timely manner and people will still do their very best to convince you its totally normal.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, February 22, 2023, 09:49:48
I can’t believe we took six weeks and the best we could get was Jody Morris.

I assume all the better options turned us down. Hence the delay.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, February 22, 2023, 15:38:13
Keith Curle gone from Hartlepool


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, February 22, 2023, 15:54:11
Keith Curle gone from Hartlepool
Ouch, onto their 3rd full time manager of the season then.  


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 15:30:49
Almost in the Sheridactyl mode


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 22:14:14
Ouch, onto their 3rd full time manager of the season then.  

Surely PB to come in for a firefighting session and do what he did at Barrow - to ensure they retain their football league status?  :hmmm:

Would be a 'homecoming' gig for him in some ways. Now he was an experienced right back.

Frohe Geburtstag for the other day btw  :pint:


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Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 08:30:49
Frohe Geburtstag for the other day btw  :pint:
vielen Dank


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Thursday, February 23, 2023, 12:47:31
Ross Embleton caretaker Colchester manager


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, February 23, 2023, 12:58:38
Ross Embleton caretaker Colchester manager

He seems to be a bit of a journeyman coach, popping up in caretaker manager roles at various clubs


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, February 23, 2023, 16:01:04
John Askey gets the Hartlepool gig.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Thursday, February 23, 2023, 16:53:39
John Askey gets the Hartlepool gig.

Until next month


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Sunday, February 26, 2023, 10:31:40
Karl Robinson sacked from the lot down the A420


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, February 26, 2023, 10:34:53
Shame he couldn't have lasted the season as he was doing a wonderful job!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Sunday, February 26, 2023, 10:41:20
Shame he couldn't have lasted the season as he was doing a wonderful job!

Agree was way ahead in my Manager of the season vote.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, February 26, 2023, 10:44:26
Agree was way ahead in my Manager of the season vote.

It wouldn't surprise me if they get Michael Appleton back.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Super Hans on Sunday, February 26, 2023, 21:02:42
Apparently cheated on his wife with the women's team captain as well recently.

Shame he's gone really as they were only heading one way.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, February 26, 2023, 21:25:06
Hotel rooms courtesy of Oxford United expenses😋


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Sunday, February 26, 2023, 21:29:19
Not a fan of Robinson buts he’s got a 41% win percentage from a managerial career that’s 13 years long and nigh on 700 games - which is not a bad return all things considered.

Only managed 3 clubs as well…


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Sunday, February 26, 2023, 22:19:10
Only ever gained one promotion though


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Sunday, February 26, 2023, 22:20:05
Apparently cheated on his wife with the women's team captain as well recently.

Shame he's gone really as they were only heading one way.

Said wife also allegedly turned up at the training ground with all his stuff in the car park too


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: 4D on Monday, February 27, 2023, 00:59:06
Still doing carpool karaoke?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, February 27, 2023, 15:22:10
 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:
https://therealefl.co.uk/2023/02/27/former-swindon-town-boss-emerges-as-favouite-for-league-two-vacancy/


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Nemo on Monday, February 27, 2023, 15:37:20
Garner got his "big" move too soon but I can see why a League Two side would give him another shot. From the laughing emoji I was expecting Shezza!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Monday, February 27, 2023, 19:03:51
Garner would be better off waiting for a big non league club to rebuild his career like Williams has.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: RobertT on Monday, February 27, 2023, 19:43:14
Garner would be better taking up a top job in an Academy, a really good one.  Maybe even a proper Technical Director role in a European club.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, March 2, 2023, 10:13:52
Garner confirmed at Colchester.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, March 2, 2023, 10:15:15
Garner confirmed at Colchester.
I can understand from Colchesters POV that he is a good fit as manager, but from a fans perspective....less attractive IMO.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: reeves4england on Thursday, March 2, 2023, 10:20:06
Possibly the least Colchestery appointment ever


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, March 2, 2023, 10:28:25
Isn’t their squad essentially recruited for a more hoofball style?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Power to people on Friday, March 3, 2023, 12:03:45
Isn’t their squad essentially recruited for a more hoofball style?

Apparently they have a lot of technical players, cant see it working for Garner, he got found out at Charlton, he will really be under the microscope at Colchester, probably last chance saloon if he wants to be a manager


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, March 4, 2023, 12:30:38
Unsurprisingly, Scott Marshall traipses behind Garner to Colchester.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Tuesday, March 7, 2023, 16:46:54
Watford sack yet another manager. Bilic gone replaced by Chris Wilder


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: THE FLASH on Tuesday, March 7, 2023, 16:46:58
Watford at it again!!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, March 7, 2023, 18:00:25
Watford sack yet another manager. Bilic gone replaced by Chris Wilder

"Seventeen minutes after Bilic’s departure was confirmed, Wilder was announced as their new manager."

Seventeen minutes?

I think our last two managerial searches have lasted longer than the last two Watford managerial reigns!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Friday, March 10, 2023, 08:17:29
Liam Manning gets the scummers job


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Batch on Friday, March 10, 2023, 08:30:34
Oxford and Franchise. What a guy


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, March 10, 2023, 08:32:06
Good ‘ol Bernard. Carry on the good work.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Friday, March 10, 2023, 15:16:40
He's gone to a smaller club😀


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, March 10, 2023, 15:55:10
Good ‘ol Bernard. Carry on the good work.

Looking at his win % I assume that he absolutely flew at MK until it went to shit in the last few games?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, March 14, 2023, 20:07:22
Dunc "the hunk" Ferguson under pressure at FGR already despite what the announcement says.

https://therealefl.co.uk/2023/03/14/forest-green-rovers-respond-to-reports/

Only 2 points from his first 8 games so far.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, March 14, 2023, 20:10:40
Dunc "the hunk" Ferguson under pressure at FGR already despite what the announcement says.

https://therealefl.co.uk/2023/03/14/forest-green-rovers-respond-to-reports/

Only 2 points from his first 8 games so far.

Ferguson Out. People are only giving him more rope because he played in the Prem.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Tuesday, March 14, 2023, 20:45:05
Ferguson Out. People are only giving him more rope because he played in the Prem.

And shows a lot of pashun


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Nick Bamosomi on Friday, March 17, 2023, 09:01:59
Patrick Vieira gone from Palace.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: adje on Friday, March 17, 2023, 09:19:26
Patrick Vieira gone from Palace.
Not surprised really,they seem to be the easiest 3 points in the Prem at the moment.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Friday, March 17, 2023, 09:30:57
Lampard to Palace
Morris to join as assistant on a secondment


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Posh Red on Friday, March 17, 2023, 10:03:52
Not surprised really,they seem to be the easiest 3 points in the Prem at the moment.

Haven’t won in 11/12 games, if only we could play a team like that……….?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, March 17, 2023, 10:08:47
Haven’t won in 11/12 games, if only we could play a team like that……….?
Yeah I bet we would beat a team on a run like that and not just draw.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: THE FLASH on Friday, March 17, 2023, 10:20:04
Lampard to Palace
Morris to join as assistant on a secondment

Spat my tea!

Excellent!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Friday, March 17, 2023, 11:37:54
Spat my tea!

Excellent!

If there is one thing STFC have excelled at in the last 12 months it’s getting other teams to pay us to take our duff managers off our hands.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: adje on Friday, March 17, 2023, 11:43:14
Yeah I bet we would beat a team on a run like that and not just draw.
🙂


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Friday, March 17, 2023, 12:24:22
Also worth pointing out put Palace have sacked Patrick Vieira and replaced him temporarily with Patrick McCarthy on St. Patrick’s day.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Friday, March 17, 2023, 13:55:39
Also worth pointing out put Palace have sacked Patrick Vieira and replaced him temporarily with Patrick McCarthy on St. Patrick’s day.
Just need to announce sponsorship with Paddy Power now


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, March 18, 2023, 21:01:06
Colchester score in the 89 & 92nd minutes to draw 2-2 at Orient in Ben Garners first match in charge.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Quagmire on Saturday, March 18, 2023, 21:09:41
Colchester score in the 89 & 92nd minutes to draw 2-2 at Orient in Ben Garners first match in charge.

It was his 3rd game.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, March 18, 2023, 21:11:33
It was his 3rd game.

Apologies I thought that was his first game in charge. Lost to Bradford away & Stockport at home previously so a really tough start.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, March 19, 2023, 17:09:17
Tranmere sack Mickey Mellon.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Sunday, March 19, 2023, 23:23:23
Tranmere sack Mickey Mellon.

They always say never renew your vows or go back for a second go. But for Mellon going back to Tranmere, he was always going to be in the cantaloupe; unfortunate the honeydew period didn't last as long as his first spell... :D

Tranmere might pray to the gods that they have to endure yet another season in L2 and galia goodbye to Mellon.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, March 20, 2023, 06:40:19
Tranmere sack Mickey Mellon.
Apparently they’re going down the same route we are in squad assembly. Signing players for development and those dropping down from academies with a view to selling on for a profit.

Can’t understand why more clubs don’t follow this model!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Pookemon on Monday, March 20, 2023, 07:05:57
Apparently they’re going down the same route we are in squad assembly. Signing players for development and those dropping down from academies with a view to selling on for a profit.

Can’t understand why more clubs don’t follow this model!
Worked well for us so far!   Suspect it's used as a guise to reduce the budget.

I think many clubs do this but do it in a balanced way.   Going all out nursery has a low chance of succeeding.

Winning football matches drives revenue growth at this level.  If you do that you also showcase the talent.   A player from a shit team will never command a much of a fee.

Wouldn't surprise me if Artell went there given those comments.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, March 20, 2023, 11:30:26
Suspect it's used as a guise to reduce the budget.
This 100%.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Monday, March 20, 2023, 15:09:13
They always say never renew your vows or go back for a second go. But for Mellon going back to Tranmere, he was always going to be in the cantaloupe; unfortunate the honeydew period didn't last as long as his first spell... :D

Tranmere might pray to the gods that they have to endure yet another season in L2 and galia goodbye to Mellon.

Darren Ferguson is enjoying his fourth spell at Peterborough😀


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, March 21, 2023, 08:25:16
Woy gets the Palace gig!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, March 21, 2023, 09:59:48
Woy gets the Palace gig!
The Weturn of Woy. Massive backwards step from Viera IMHO.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, March 21, 2023, 11:31:43
The Weturn of Woy. Massive backwards step from Viera IMHO.

But the only objective for them is to avoid relegation, then it will be new manager in the summer either way.

Its the thing with these middling PL teams, the main objective each season is just don't get relegated, they literally don't have anything else to realistically play for, I am not sure I could be arsed to support a team doing that kind of thing what is there to look forward to.

I fear we would be similar if we got to the Championship without massive investment, just a prolonged period of frantically treading water at best.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, March 21, 2023, 11:53:14
Its the thing with these middling PL teams, the main objective each season is just don't get relegated, they literally don't have anything else to realistically play for, I am not sure I could be arsed to support a team doing that kind of thing what is there to look forward to.
I appreciate what you are saying, survivial is a good season for about 50% of all Premier League teams every season.

As you state without serious investment they cannot ever be challenging at the top half of the table, even Newcastle with their massive investment have struggled to get into the top half at times yet by most would be considered one of the struggling 50% of teams normally.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: adje on Tuesday, March 21, 2023, 12:46:29
With a squad as talented as Palace have, and they do have some outstanding players,I think they should be doing a lot better,so maybe it was down to Viera in some way


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, March 21, 2023, 13:22:03
With a squad as talented as Palace have, and they do have some outstanding players,I think they should be doing a lot better,so maybe it was down to Viera in some way
I am sure it is down to Viera but for me Woy is not a firefighter manager and not the correct appointment.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: adje on Tuesday, March 21, 2023, 13:28:40
I am sure it is down to Viera but for me Woy is not a firefighter manager and not the correct appointment.
No, I quite agree mate. Might as well have gone for Sam Allardyce!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, March 21, 2023, 13:32:36
Might as well have gone for Sam Allardyce!
Dont swear like that!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, March 22, 2023, 11:02:12
Gary Taylor Fletcher gets the Crewe gig


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, March 22, 2023, 11:13:25
Gary Taylor Fletcher gets the Crewe gig

 :hmmm: Isn't Lee Bell Crewe's manager?

Think you are getting confused with AFC Crewe, who appear to play in the Crewe and District Premier League (and top of that particular division thrillingly)


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, March 22, 2023, 11:36:34
Norman Stanley Fletcher just popped into my head  :)


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, March 22, 2023, 11:54:00
Scrub that one, then!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Sunday, March 26, 2023, 22:00:25
Conte gone from Spurs.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, March 28, 2023, 07:44:24
Jim Bentley sacked from Rochdale


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Sunday, April 2, 2023, 13:18:32
Brendan Rodgers sacked from Leicester


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, April 2, 2023, 13:21:12
Wow Rodgers is strange timing.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Batch on Sunday, April 2, 2023, 13:41:48
Second bottom, desperation stakes. Change something and hope


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, April 2, 2023, 14:02:01
Must have someone lined up maybe a Jessie Marsch type


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Sunday, April 2, 2023, 19:07:52
Graham Potter sacked


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Sunday, April 2, 2023, 19:09:05
Lampard to Chelsea (again)
Morris as Assitant


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, April 2, 2023, 19:09:41
Job for Jose😀


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Nemo on Sunday, April 2, 2023, 19:34:10
Bizarre to get two Prem sackings the weekend *after* the international break.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, April 2, 2023, 19:43:12
Potters decision is strange timing as they are still in the champions league and stuck in mid table so not threatening the top four or bottom three.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Sunday, April 2, 2023, 19:43:19
Potter to Leicester i reckon.
Nagelsmann to Chelsea.

Tottenham can have Sherwood


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, April 3, 2023, 08:46:23
Potters decision is strange timing as they are still in the champions league and stuck in mid table so not threatening the top four or bottom three.

I suspect the Nagelsmann situation may have accelerated their decision making a little.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Monday, April 3, 2023, 15:52:38
I suspect the Nagelsmann situation may have accelerated their decision making a little.

Good shout


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, April 4, 2023, 16:58:08
https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2023/april/club-statement-club-parts-company-with-james-lally/?fbclid=IwAR3TDYQAS-8tg53m72gcjrjLBhmJHgovCcb5UlC631QLkV5jsj-ZLXd2M8Y

STFC sack the Women's Team Manager. I only mention this because the quotes on this are from Rob Angus - I hadn't quite realised the integration of the women's side extended this far I don't think.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Tuesday, April 4, 2023, 17:35:44
https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2023/april/club-statement-club-parts-company-with-james-lally/?fbclid=IwAR3TDYQAS-8tg53m72gcjrjLBhmJHgovCcb5UlC631QLkV5jsj-ZLXd2M8Y

STFC sack the Women's Team Manager. I only mention this because the quotes on this are from Rob Angus - I hadn't quite realised the integration of the women's side extended this far I don't think.

Quote
Very strange decision. James and KP have done a tremendous job this season and in the 4 years they've been involved with the women's side. They've had no contact from the club since it took on the women's team, until today when told about their sacking. Poor really. #stwfc


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Mooneyraker on Tuesday, April 4, 2023, 17:37:56
https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2023/april/club-statement-club-parts-company-with-james-lally/?fbclid=IwAR3TDYQAS-8tg53m72gcjrjLBhmJHgovCcb5UlC631QLkV5jsj-ZLXd2M8Y

STFC sack the Women's Team Manager. I only mention this because the quotes on this are from Rob Angus - I hadn't quite realised the integration of the women's side extended this far I don't think.

I can't think of a better use of Rob Angus' time than this. The club apparatus is humming like a finely tuned Rolls Royce, so I for one am delighted that he's spending his time searching for a new manager for the women's team.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, April 4, 2023, 17:50:16
I can't think of a better use of Rob Angus' time than this. The club apparatus is humming like a finely tuned Rolls Royce, so I for one am delighted that he's spending his time searching for a new manager for the women's team.

Well, the good news on that front is that STFC managerial searches are famously smooth and deliver the right result in no time at all ;)

Seriously though, the statement reads rather like they have someone else they want to do the job. Sideways move for Jody, perhaps?


Title: Re: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, April 4, 2023, 17:53:51

Didn't the women's team play at the CG at the weekend (I may have imagined that), can't believe the manager got in and out plus oversaw a game without anyone from the club speaking to him....

A job for Sandro??


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, April 4, 2023, 17:54:26
Everyone on Twitter seems to have become an expert on the ins and outs of the women’s team which is interesting.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Mooneyraker on Tuesday, April 4, 2023, 17:58:10
The club have fallen into the trap of largely playing to Twitter these days. A mistake in my eyes.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Trashbat? on Tuesday, April 4, 2023, 18:16:08
My understanding is that the women’s team is yet another thing Clem has taken advice on, from people with their own motives associated to the club.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, April 4, 2023, 19:46:53
I was at the women’s game on Sunday (and the previous one at the CG)

On both occasions I’ve found it a little odd how quiet the management team were in the dugout.
One of the ‘highlights’ if you will of attending reserve team and youth fixtures at the CG was that it was quiet enough that you could hear the ‘talk’ from the players and staff. An insight not really possible at first team games.

That’s not to say shouting, ranting and raving on the sidelines is the only way to manager or being quiet and calm means he’s not doing an effective a job as a manager.

Sunday he had a big coat on and his hood up and to be honest without the information available on the internet I’d have had no clue who was who out of three staff.

Again, that’s not me having a definitive opinion on the whole thing because I’ve seen very little - just pointing out something that really jumped out to me on both occasions.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, April 4, 2023, 19:51:12
Everyone on Twitter seems to have become an expert on the ins and outs of the women’s team which is interesting.

…in fairness, all I’ve seen on social under this article is people being disappointed it wasn’t Sandro or suggesting Sandro should be next.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: MangoRed on Tuesday, April 4, 2023, 19:59:48
Everyone on Twitter seems to have become an expert on the ins and outs of the women’s team which is interesting.


I’ve got no idea on STFC women, nor any idea on women’s football.

But what I do know is, it’s fucking rancid that finding out they are no longer in the job was the first time they’ve had any correspondence from Club management. Thought we were merging? Reeks of box ticking this merging stuff. How the fuck can you merge and not correspond with the management of said team? 😂 another episode in the day to day circus of running stfc.

Like someone’s already alluded to above, I really hope it’s not “jobs for the boys” and we see another “associate” of the regime magically turn up. 


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Tails on Wednesday, April 5, 2023, 09:06:34
I don't see what the issue is. New management effectively took over the women's team and wanted to do something different, would it not have been worse if the first conversation they had was "hey guys can't wait to work with you" and then they got told they weren't being kept on? Think people are being influenced by the current state of things not being great.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, April 5, 2023, 09:10:28
Whoop another thing of rumour and conjecture to beat the regime with.

Before everyone gets too over excited its worth remembering that there are two sides to every story and at this stage only on has ben heard. IIRC the womens side has/had a DoF and their own Chair who one would have expected to liaise with the wider club hierarchy etc so unless you are intimately aware of the line of command I am not sure how any conclusions can be drawn from the statement of an irate ex employee (was he an employee, is it a full time paid post?).

Talking of Twitter, there does seem to be quite the lack of dismayed tweets from the players about the guys departure?  


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, April 5, 2023, 09:23:00
I don't see what the issue is. New management effectively took over the women's team and wanted to do something different, would it not have been worse if the first conversation they had was "hey guys can't wait to work with you" and then they got told they weren't being kept on? Think people are being influenced by the current state of things not being great.

…seems odd to do it with 4 games left of the season - where the team are going to have a decent finish.

I’d have thought you let them see out the season then tell them you wish to move in another direction and wish them well in their future endeavours


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, April 5, 2023, 09:23:42
Whoop another thing of rumour and conjecture to beat the regime with.

Before everyone gets too over excited its worth remembering that there are two sides to every story and at this stage only on has ben heard. IIRC the womens side has/had a DoF and their own Chair who one would have expected to liaise with the wider club hierarchy etc so unless you are intimately aware of the line of command I am not sure how any conclusions can be drawn from the statement of an irate ex employee (was he an employee, is it a full time paid post?).

Talking of Twitter, there does seem to be quite the lack of dismayed tweets from the players about the guys departure?   

Voluntary from my understanding…


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, April 5, 2023, 09:25:36
I also thought as they play on Sundays and it’s Easter this week maybe they didn’t have a game and that gives a two week gap but according to the fixture list they have a game Sunday with absolutely no coaching staff…



Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Mooneyraker on Wednesday, April 5, 2023, 09:36:21
My point is simply why has the club, which is struggling to manage even its most basic functions, taken on the extra workload of the women's team now? Fine to set up a target of fully integrating them in X number of years, but seems a baffling decision that only plays to the sort of people who hector on Twitter and genuinely believe that the Lionesses would beat the England men's team.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, April 5, 2023, 09:47:03
Get em on for the last ten minutes.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DMC on Wednesday, April 5, 2023, 09:47:45
My point is simply why has the club, which is struggling to manage even its most basic functions, taken on the extra workload of the women's team now? Fine to set up a target of fully integrating them in X number of years, but seems a baffling decision that only plays to the sort of people who hector on Twitter and genuinely believe that the Lionesses would beat the England men's team.
They did it last year this isn't a new thing. They obviously have a plan in mind, club has a huge list of things it can be hit with a stick with but not sure this really is one


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Mooneyraker on Wednesday, April 5, 2023, 09:51:33
They did it last year this isn't a new thing. They obviously have a plan in mind, club has a huge list of things it can be hit with a stick with but not sure this really is one

They did it this season: https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2022/september/swindon-town-women-to-be-integrated-into-swindon-town-football-club/

Apologies, aware this is the wrong thread for this discussion!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Wednesday, April 5, 2023, 17:56:30
Lampard going back to Chelsea as interim head coach


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, April 5, 2023, 18:02:25
Morris dancing?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Wednesday, April 5, 2023, 18:10:57
Lampard going back to Chelsea as interim head coach

Wins them the champions league😀


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Wednesday, April 5, 2023, 18:11:55
Morris dancing?
Hopefully to significant cash from Chelsea


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, April 5, 2023, 18:14:07
They did it last year this isn't a new thing. They obviously have a plan in mind, club has a huge list of things it can be hit with a stick with but not sure this really is one

Where as I’m the opposite. I think this really is something to question the club about because the large majority, if not all the facts are there in black & white unlike a lot of the other things around the club that are very grey.

Women’s team got integrated with the men’s team.
Little to no budget / resources.
Coaching team purely volunteers.
Team by all accounts (results & league table) having a good season.
Four games left to go in aforementioned season.
First interaction with the club (Angus) results into two volunteers being ‘sacked’

Consider the previous two years the club have had: Garner pre good end of season run, Lindsey pre being poached and Morris with 1 win in 11 - it’s mad to think that Lally is the first manager they’ve sacked.

…now they might have something really big / amazing lined up but why would you implement that in a season that has 4 games left? Only really makes sense if you were in say danger of a relegation and were banking on a new manager bounce or something & if the club does have something big / amazing lined up would it have been worth keeping Lally & co on for a transition period and / or kept them at the club just in a different capacity for continuity….or just doing it in the summer after the season has finished?

I have only Lally’s social media + one conversation with someone close to the set up but they had a two year plan and have pretty much hit their target for year one. The only manager to do so this season I’d argue & yet the one that’s been given the chop.

Where is the logic behind any of that? Seriously.

I have no doubt it’s far from the club or fans biggest concern (I’m sure most couldn’t care less) but it’s a lot more fact orientated than the other stuff with regards to directors / Karachi / player recruitment / spreadsheets / Morris etc

Just feels like another poorly timed, poorly made odd decision by someone who could have well just flipped a coin.

Of course I could be eating humble pie in a few days (…or closer to 6 weeks) or there could have been a player revolt or something. Lost the dressing room blah blah blah.

 


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, April 8, 2023, 12:01:02
Mick McCarthy gone from Blackpool.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, April 8, 2023, 12:17:50
It does make me smile seeing how well Luke Williams is doing for himself after he was shafted by Power but credit where it's due he's bounced back against all the odds.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, April 8, 2023, 12:21:05
It does make me smile seeing how well Luke Williams is doing for himself after he was shafted by Power but credit where it's due he's bounced back against all the odds.
He did prepare us fans for the tippy tappy passing shit that has become the norm at Swindon, he was a leader in his field!

On a par with Lindsey for style over substance.

Fair play to him getting it right at County, some managers fit clubs etc etc.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, April 8, 2023, 12:23:59
He did prepare us fans for the tippy tappy passing shit that has become the norm at Swindon, he was a leader in his field!

On a par with Lindsey for style over substance.

Fair play to him getting it right at County, some managers fit clubs etc etc.

His confidence must had been at an all time low after the way he was treated here but he's probably smiling to himself looking at our shit show!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Saturday, April 8, 2023, 15:17:47
In fairness he was manager (against his will allegedly) 6 years ago now.
People do learn from experience and improve.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, April 8, 2023, 15:20:04
Fair point, he was forced into the job and has obviously learnt from his assistant manager roles at Franchise & Swansea


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Saturday, April 8, 2023, 15:22:41
In fairness he was manager (against his will allegedly) 6 years ago now.
People do learn from experience and improve.

And had to deal with that twat Sherwood overriding him


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Mooneyraker on Saturday, April 8, 2023, 15:31:12
And had to deal with that twat Sherwood overriding him

Islam Feruz and Charlie Colkett disasterclass.

Our top scorer the season we went down was Obika... with 6 in all competitions!!!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, April 11, 2023, 12:11:46
Paul Ince gone from Resding


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, April 11, 2023, 12:22:19
His confidence must had been at an all time low after the way he was treated here but he's probably smiling to himself looking at our shit show!

Watching Notts County defend yesterday I suspect we would have a similar shit show this season here if Williams was still in charge.  :D


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, April 11, 2023, 21:35:53
Watching Notts County defend yesterday I suspect we would have a similar shit show this season here if Williams was still in charge.  :D

You can't deny it was exciting to watch tho plus they create chances and score goals😀


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Monday, April 17, 2023, 07:44:04
Darrell Clarke sacked from Port Vale


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Nemo on Monday, April 17, 2023, 07:44:18
That's a shame.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Batch on Monday, April 17, 2023, 08:06:06
Weird, they are 6 clear with 4 to go.

What are PVs expectations?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: 4D on Monday, April 17, 2023, 08:29:48
Come on Vale, you can still get relegated  :)


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, April 17, 2023, 08:38:46
What are PVs expectations?
I expect nothing thanks for caring :)


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, April 17, 2023, 10:12:13
Darrell Clarke sacked from Port Vale
Wanking off dogs again, eh?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: 4D on Monday, April 17, 2023, 10:29:56
Will Flitcroft take over the role?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: MangoRed on Monday, April 17, 2023, 10:33:13
Will Flitcroft take over the role?


I know someone that works at vale, according to them he rocks up as he pleases and is taking a very healthy salary in doing so.



Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, April 17, 2023, 10:38:19
Will Flitcroft take over the role?

He's their Director of Football I think. Andy Crosby is in charge at the moment. He took control of them last season when Clarke was taking compassionate leave and I think he did quite well.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, April 17, 2023, 10:41:11
Recently signed a 5 year deal


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, April 17, 2023, 10:52:06
Recently signed a 5 year deal

Yeah they did in May 2022, so to sever a 4 year contract would have cost them a few bob.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, April 17, 2023, 12:42:57
Don’t really know if they binned him or the famous ‘by mutual consent’. I notice Flitcroft May have been stirring behind the scenes according to their fans. Apparently ‘senior players’ were consulted which is a dreadful way to come to a decision. He wanted to join Pompey recently but they were put off by the amount of compo they’d have to cough.

Anyways, hope they get relegated.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Wednesday, April 19, 2023, 11:14:07
 Mike Flynn sacked from Walsall


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, April 24, 2023, 09:32:41
Kevin Phillips quits NPL champions South Shields and looks likely to take over at Walsall.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, April 24, 2023, 09:38:16
Kevin Phillips quits NPL champions South Shields and looks likely to take over at Walsall.

Is it being spun as 'quit' now, it was 'mutual consent yesterday'.  ;)

I think reading between the lines a good deal for all.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, April 24, 2023, 09:53:17
Is it being spun as 'quit' now, it was 'mutual consent yesterday'.  ;)

I think reading between the lines a good deal for all.
Yes mutual consent (some say sacked some say quit also personal reasons have been quoted) with South Shields looking for "longer term better sustainability" which probably equates to his wages too high and his demands for new players outside of the current budget limitations.

Walsall would be a good career move and a big step up from the NPL.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, April 24, 2023, 10:37:21
I have seen some aspiration/desire to get Williamson at Shields from the mighty Heed, albeit unless Shields have more cash not sure of the benefits for him.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Nemo on Monday, April 24, 2023, 11:52:01
Tottenham briefing that they're considering sacking their caretaker manager  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, April 24, 2023, 12:36:25
Tottenham briefing that they're considering sacking their caretaker manager  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:
Wow, that would be a first I would think.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, April 24, 2023, 16:30:34
Him and his coaching staff have been given their jotters. Ryan Mason takes interim control.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Batch on Monday, April 24, 2023, 16:33:21
So he's the caretaker caretaker?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, April 24, 2023, 17:11:51
Robbie Fowler lined up for the Tranmere job.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Monday, April 24, 2023, 19:28:52
Robbie Fowler lined up for the Tranmere job.

I see what you [sniff] didd there  :D


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, April 25, 2023, 08:43:16
I see what you [sniff] didd there  :D
Snow joke.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, April 25, 2023, 08:48:28
I see what you [sniff] didd there  :D

No you don't, you're telling white lines.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, April 25, 2023, 10:39:17
This could have something to do with The demise of the fat scouser from the piss stains  >:D >:D


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Mooneyraker on Tuesday, April 25, 2023, 10:53:18
That was the rumour at the time...


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Tuesday, April 25, 2023, 12:08:45
This could have something to do with The demise of the fat scouser from the piss stains  >:D >:D


I notice in that, there is absolutely zero regard for the womens footy team star...other than her getting ''knobbed'' by the mens team gaffer. Interesting  :hmmm:


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Tuesday, April 25, 2023, 12:10:50

Snow joke.


The Blizzard of '77  :)




No you don't, you're telling white lines.


It's all just a load of old Cola to me


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 2, 2023, 17:45:43
Wellens bookies favourite for Reading job

https://www.readingchronicle.co.uk/sport/23494282.reading-fc-manager-hunt-leyton-orient-boss-becomes-bookies-favourite/


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Mooneyraker on Tuesday, May 2, 2023, 17:48:13
Suspect he won’t make the same mistake as he did with us and will stay at Orient.

Reading are a basket case.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, May 2, 2023, 17:55:34
He’d be fucking mad to go.
High chance they’ll be playing in the same division next season anyway.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Riddick on Tuesday, May 2, 2023, 18:05:07
He’d be fucking mad to go.
High chance they’ll be playing in the same division next season anyway.

Really? Reading are miles bigger than Orient, and have a much higher ceiling. Wouldn't blame him for jumping honestly.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, May 2, 2023, 18:11:16
Really? Reading are miles bigger than Orient, and have a much higher ceiling. Wouldn't blame him for jumping honestly.

Reading look to me (and it’s only a quick glance) to have imploded. They are well on their down to the lower league obscurity they came from. Orient might not have a massively high ceiling but at least currently their floor isn’t getting lower.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Tuesday, May 2, 2023, 19:55:58
He wont go, think he has learnt his lesson


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, May 3, 2023, 09:01:42
Welcome home Reading  :D


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Tails on Wednesday, May 3, 2023, 09:03:48
I think he's more likely to go to Blackpool to be honest.

Having said that, some Reading fans I know seem adamant he's going there. I'm not sure they can afford him, think the Orient owner has a few quid in his pocket so won't need the cash. Reading are hardly flush with money themselves.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, May 3, 2023, 09:11:59
Noel Hunt is already there as well.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 3, 2023, 09:59:40
I think he's more likely to go to Blackpool to be honest.

Having said that, some Reading fans I know seem adamant he's going there. I'm not sure they can afford him, think the Orient owner has a few quid in his pocket so won't need the cash. Reading are hardly flush with money themselves.
I have heard from someone close to Wellens that he is keen to move back to his Manchester home.

If he does choose to leave Orient (where he has been denied the funds to sign a couple of players in the last windows...one being Dom Telford) then he will choose Blackpool over Reading for certain.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, May 3, 2023, 10:33:40
Sam Allardyce to Leeds. Bielsa to Allardyce in 15 months.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 3, 2023, 10:45:34
Sam Allardyce to Leeds. Bielsa to Allardyce in 15 months.
Firefighter, has to be worth a risk at this stage for them, not sure how much Lidls will lose if they are relegated but if Sam can get the best from them in the last few games it will be worth several million to the club. They are in freefall currently, big gamble.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Mooneyraker on Wednesday, May 3, 2023, 10:52:39
Firefighter, has to be worth a risk at this stage for them, not sure how much Lidls will lose if they are relegated but if Sam can get the best from them in the last few games it will be worth several million to the club. They are in freefall currently, big gamble.

I work with a well connected life long Leeds season ticket holder and I believe they have some serious American investment that hinges on them staying in the league, hence the panic stations.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Wednesday, May 3, 2023, 10:55:42
Current fad, certainly in the PL, seems to be the appointing of interim managers / coaches.
Doesn't seem to be working with 2 of them being sacked and a third one who would now be out of a job had he been appointed a month earlier.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Trashbat? on Wednesday, May 3, 2023, 10:57:30
I have heard from someone close to Wellens that he is keen to move back to his Manchester home.

If he does choose to leave Orient (where he has been denied the funds to sign a couple of players in the last windows...one being Dom Telford) then he will choose Blackpool over Reading for certain.

You would like to think he has learnt his lesson already, that the grass isn't always greener being close to home.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 3, 2023, 11:01:22
I work with a well connected life long Leeds season ticket holder and I believe they have some serious American investment that hinges on them staying in the league, hence the panic stations.
Relegation alone is estimated to cost clubs about £90m, so it makes sense, lack of extra revenue, sponsorship etc as well as TV rights. Its fucking mental.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 3, 2023, 11:03:03
You would like to think he has learnt his lesson already, that the grass isn't always greener being close to home.
Absolutely, I hear he is fed up with travelling, also Blackpool are a club very close to his heart and he has bonds with their fans too.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Wednesday, May 3, 2023, 11:16:06
I work with a well connected life long Leeds season ticket holder and I believe they have some serious American investment that hinges on them staying in the league, hence the panic stations.

Can’t you see a buying signal when one is shouting at you? 😁


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Wednesday, May 3, 2023, 23:19:24
Darrel Clarke said to be excited and ready to get hands on with his new managerial role at Isle of Dogs FC.

Reports say he's 'chomping at the bit'. I bet he is  :pint:


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Thursday, May 4, 2023, 11:42:52
Tranmere take the cheap option by appointing their caretaker manager Ian Dawes

Their fans are over joyed with this news


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 4, 2023, 11:51:47
Tranmere take the cheap option by appointing their caretaker manager Ian Dawes

Their fans are over joyed with this news
Understandably too. Cheap option is an understatement.

Quote
Rovers said in a statement: “The club has considered several highly qualified candidates, however Ian’s coaching abilities, knowledge of the playing squad and the staff as well as the club’s aims to balance player development with winning games ultimately made him the standout choice.”

Andy Parkinson will continue in his role as first-team coach, while the club continue their search for a technical director.
Cheap.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Thursday, May 4, 2023, 11:56:17
Understandably too. Cheap option is an understatement.
Cheap.

I know a technical director looking for a new job :D


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, May 4, 2023, 12:46:20
Sam Allardyce to Leeds. Bielsa to Allardyce in 15 months.

I'd missed that Karl Robinson has gone there as assistant (along with Robbie Keane).


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Tuesday, May 9, 2023, 12:16:52
Doncaster sack Danny Schofield
Franchise sack Mark Jackson


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: wokinghamred on Tuesday, May 9, 2023, 12:30:11
I think he's more likely to go to Blackpool to be honest.

Having said that, some Reading fans I know seem adamant he's going there. I'm not sure they can afford him, think the Orient owner has a few quid in his pocket so won't need the cash. Reading are hardly flush with money themselves.

Renhe Sports Management, the Reading FC holding company, have more than £220m in debt on their balance sheet. (they do have a very nice new training ground, to be fair!) I wonder how long their owner is going to keep pumping money in, now they are in League 1.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, May 9, 2023, 14:33:45
Renhe Sports Management, the Reading FC holding company, have more than £220m in debt on their balance sheet. (they do have a very nice new training ground, to be fair!) I wonder how long their owner is going to keep pumping money in, now they are in League 1.

I wouldn't be massively shocked to see them go down again.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, May 9, 2023, 14:46:43
Passing us by  :pint:


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, May 9, 2023, 14:57:45
Send the fuckers back to Elm Park😀


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 9, 2023, 15:11:07
I wouldn't be massively shocked to see them go down again.

Fingers crossed!

I have no idea how they are financed and whether "book loss" is just that and of no consequence, But I hope they have tuppence hapenny budget and we get to play them - I can cross them off the "we'll never play you again" list.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, 07:53:02
We will likely play them in the Pizza Cup.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 15, 2023, 11:17:58
Cole Skuse recently released from Colchester United has been appointed manager of pheonix club Bury Town FC in the Isthmian League.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, May 15, 2023, 11:25:55
Cole Skuse recently released from Colchester United has been appointed manager of pheonix club Bury Town FC in the Isthmian League.

I think you are getting your Bury's mixed up, this is the Suffolk lot not the GM ones...  ;)


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 15, 2023, 11:26:41
I think you are getting your Bury's mixed up, this is the Suffolk lot not the GM ones...  ;)
Ah right sorry my mistake :)  teaches me not to take what is posted on FB as gospel.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, May 15, 2023, 11:29:28
Ah right sorry my mistake :)

I see the northern Bury's have finally got their shit in order and agreed to play nicely so phoenix club, ground etc are all reunited as one for next season assuming the FA agree it.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, May 15, 2023, 11:33:01
I see the northern Bury's have finally got their shit in order and agreed to play nicely so phoenix club, ground etc are all reunited as one for next season assuming the FA agree it.
Yes I saw that last week and thats why I thought a quick appointment of an ex L2 player was arranged, but alas, I should have checked facts first.

I like Bury, been there to see Town play 5 times and bad ownership was always going to get them in the shit. Its a good job the ground had not been sold off and developed already TBF.

Good luck to them.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, May 18, 2023, 15:59:18
Walsall have rather done what we did last summer and after an extensive search have appointed number 2, Matthew Sadler as manager. A good one for nominative determination fans.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Batch on Thursday, May 18, 2023, 16:39:06
The Walsall fans reacting in exactly the same split way we did. "Give him a chance" to "ffs, cheap option".

Must have joint worst fans in the world


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, May 18, 2023, 16:44:27
The Walsall fans reacting in exactly the same split way we did. "Give him a chance" to "ffs, cheap option".

Must have joint worst fans in the world

I think Tranmere fans did similar when they did the same earlier this month. It seems to be 'on trend' at the moment.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Ides of March on Thursday, May 18, 2023, 17:18:24
Unsure what fans at this level expect most the time. Anyone appointed in League Two is either going to be unproven or failed somewhere.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, May 19, 2023, 09:49:04
The Walsall fans reacting in exactly the same split way we did. "Give him a chance" to "ffs, cheap option".

Must have joint worst fans in the world
TBH Tranmere did almost exactly the same appointing ex number 2 Ian Dawes and has exactly the same reaction.

A reaction I think is pretty much valid and also expected at every club in the EFL.

EDIT: I should read the whole thread before replying :)


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, May 23, 2023, 11:58:35
Cowley in line to join MKDongs as new manager.


Title: Re: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Laddy in Red on Tuesday, May 23, 2023, 15:14:31
Cowley in line to join MKDongs as new manager.
A departure from their previous modus operandi if that happens. Maybe the fashion of overrated academy coaches coming to an end for leagues one and two.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: THE FLASH on Tuesday, May 23, 2023, 15:22:19
A departure from their previous modus operandi if that happens. Maybe the fashion of overrated academy coaches coming to an end for leagues one and two.

Hooray to that!!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, May 23, 2023, 15:40:01
Cowley in line to join MKDongs as new manager.

I assume that Rokerite is in full on PR hard sell mode on their forum (if they have one!)


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, May 23, 2023, 17:01:25
Neil Critchley back to Blackpool after QPR went south.

Bit of that about. I wonder how much Garner came up in conversations when we needed to replace Lindsey?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, May 23, 2023, 17:04:58
Not much


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 24, 2023, 08:56:07
Neil Critchley back to Blackpool after QPR went south.

Bit of that about. I wonder how much Garner came up in conversations when we needed to replace Lindsey?
From what I have been told Clem was not a big fan of Garner.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Exiled Bob on Wednesday, May 24, 2023, 11:59:16
I assume that Rokerite is in full on PR hard-on sell mode on their forum (if they have one!)
;)


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, May 24, 2023, 12:15:51
Jody Morris linked with St Johnstone


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 24, 2023, 12:19:55
Jody Morris linked with St Johnstone
He had an interview with them before the end of the season IIRC and quickly went to the top of the bookies lists then.

Wouldn’t be surprised to see Morris pop up quickly at St Johnstone. Think they have a vacancy and he’s very highly regarded there. Gives him a chance to get straight back on the bicycle so to speak.

And the fans like him too.

Hello!

St Johnstone fan here. Just wanted to pop in and give you some insight on Jody Morris' time with us. Jody signed for us in 2008 when we were in the Scottish First Division. He hadn't played for a while after leaving Millwall and admitted that he had fallen out of love with the game. He came to us as he had previously played with our then manager, Derek McInnes, at Millwall. Initially our fans were sceptical when he first signed due to some of the off field baggage, but those initial doubts were quickly put to bed when he scored a diving header in front of our away support in a game against local rivals Dundee. After that there was no looking back, he was an instrumental part of the team that led us back to the Premier League after being in the lower league for 7 years and also led the team to a Scottish Cup semi final. Both on and off the pitch he was a brilliant leader. He relocated his family to Scotland, worked closely with our youth teams and was involved in supporters functions and the local community. He was a big part of the reason that a culture was installed in the club that has allowed us to go on and win two Scottish Cups, a League Cup and compete in Europe several times.

I know that many Saints fans were hoping that Jody would be our next manager, but unlikely that this will happen now. He has all the tools to be a great success at Swindon, he has good knowledge of the Scottish leagues, knows the English youth system well and is well respected in the game. I hope he does well, you have got a real leader at the helm of your club now and someone who will make sure the players work hard for him every week. All the best.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, May 24, 2023, 12:50:11
Jody Morris linked with St Johnstone

Would be extremely interesting to see he gets on there so quickly after leaving us.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Wednesday, May 24, 2023, 12:51:43
He might do alright. He had a shit set of circumstances here, but still underperformed. If the threw his toys out the pram about it early and didn't put his heart in to it, then it may have contributed.

He was never exactly known as the most mature as a player, which did worry me when he was first linked.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, May 24, 2023, 13:19:06
https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/23544195.jody-morris-quizzed-st-johnstone-managerial-vacancy/


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Mooneyraker on Wednesday, May 24, 2023, 13:47:59
Having fallen off the bicycle so early in his managerial career, he will want to get straight back on as quickly as possible I imagine. I still think there is something there and suspect he will succeed at another club. Something poisoned the well early at STFC.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, May 24, 2023, 14:24:39
Having fallen off the bicycle so early in his managerial career, he will want to get straight back on as quickly as possible I imagine. I still think there is something there and suspect he will succeed at another club. Something poisoned the well early at STFC.
Yep, I have no hard feelings towards Morris, in fact I have no feelings good or bad towards him at all.

It didnt work here but doesnt mean he wont make it big elsewhere.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, May 24, 2023, 17:01:22
Yep, I have no hard feelings towards Morris, in fact I have no feelings good or bad towards him at all.

It didnt work here but doesnt mean he wont make it big elsewhere.
My thoughts exactly JJ


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, May 24, 2023, 18:29:39
I think he’s a fraud and will get shown up where ever he goes…


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Posh Red on Thursday, May 25, 2023, 16:03:27
Ferguson has signed another contract with Peterborough, expecting their retained list by the weekend


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Thursday, May 25, 2023, 18:31:57
Ferguson has signed another contract with Peterborough, expecting their retained list by the weekend

Well he’s obviously on it.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, May 27, 2023, 11:27:42
Graham Alexander gets the Dongs gig.

Underwhelming.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, May 27, 2023, 12:21:26
Graham Alexander gets the Dongs gig.

Underwhelming.
At least its not the Cowleys :)


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, June 1, 2023, 17:30:13
Cotterill about to get the boot from Shrewsbury. Thought he was doing well there.

Strange one.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, June 1, 2023, 18:26:12
He doesn't want to work with a DOF so they've agreed something mutually I think. Can't see Cotterill being out of work for long, he's done pretty well there I think.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: THE FLASH on Friday, June 2, 2023, 10:42:06
He doesn't want to work with a DOF so they've agreed something mutually I think. Can't see Cotterill being out of work for long, he's done pretty well there I think.

Loved his meltdown when we gave them their first defeat of the season.

'Swindon never opened us up once!'

Apart from Smith dancing through your defence......


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, June 2, 2023, 10:50:00
Loved his meltdown when we gave them their first defeat of the season.

'Swindon never opened us up once!'

Apart from Smith dancing through your defence......

Well I mean you can probably say that when you keep a clean sheet but it sounds a ridiculous statement if you haven't. It was more than likely made with at least 2 month old grapes in his mouth, the silly gummidge that he is.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: 4D on Friday, June 2, 2023, 11:05:38
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/30081359


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: dalumpimunki on Friday, June 2, 2023, 11:24:34
Cotterill about to get the boot from Shrewsbury. Thought he was doing well there.

Strange one.

If your definition of doing well is hanging around at 17/18/19 in the table. Cotterill is one of those managers who do well early in their career, in his case at Nam, and milk it for the rest of their lives. Occasionally one of his clubs has a good season, but it's more about circumstances rather than what he brings to the table.

His non-mediocre seasons are:

- Inheriting a dream (and fraudulently assembled) largely Championship standard squad from Sven at Notts County and pissing the league 2
- Winning League One with Bristol City again with someone else's squad.

Maybe he should work with a DoF because he seems to be able to coach and lead a team of someone else gets him decent players.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, June 2, 2023, 11:33:16
Shrews finished 12th last season. I'd say that's probably par for them. Not sure what their expectations are but in a division with Ipswich, Sheff Weds etc I don't think you can really expect them to be much higher than they really were.


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Post by: horlock07 on Monday, June 5, 2023, 15:43:55
Postecoglou to Spuds pretty much done then.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Batch on Monday, June 5, 2023, 15:55:42
Postecoglou to Spuds pretty much done then.

Seems an odd one that.

Then i suppose odd doesn't mean anything.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, June 5, 2023, 16:01:08
Won’t see the season out


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Post by: horlock07 on Monday, June 5, 2023, 16:07:06
Honestly don't know enough about the guy or where he has managed previously to comment either way, but over a 681 game managerial career he has a win % of 53.74% which isn't half bad so we shall see.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Monday, June 5, 2023, 16:34:20
Rodgers probably back to Celtic to rebuild his stock😆


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Post by: tans on Monday, June 5, 2023, 17:26:52
Seems an odd one that.

Then i suppose odd doesn't mean anything.

Odd choice. Wont last long


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Nemo on Monday, June 5, 2023, 18:51:25
Odd choice. Wont last long

I don't know, Spurs are obviously cursed and make a hash of everything, but I think they might have a good one there. Big Wenger vibes in coming via an unusual set of clubs but succeeding everywhere he goes.

Can see him doing well if they give him time, at the very least he'll want to be there which is an improvement on their last few managers.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Monday, June 5, 2023, 20:34:00
I don't know, Spurs are obviously cursed and make a hash of everything, but I think they might have a good one there. Big Wenger vibes in coming via an unusual set of clubs but succeeding everywhere he goes.

Can see him doing well if they give him time, at the very least he'll want to be there which is an improvement on their last few managers.

Time is key.

Whilst it’s not exactly the same appointment obviously but a lot of similar things were said about Nuno Espirtio Santos.
Ok, so it’s guess work as to whether he would have performed well given more time but that genuinely felt like a decent appointment at the time


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, June 6, 2023, 05:10:13
Time is key.

Whilst it’s not exactly the same appointment obviously but a lot of similar things were said about Nuno Espirtio Santos.
Ok, so it’s guess work as to whether he would have performed well given more time but that genuinely felt like a decent appointment at the time

In the Premier league time is something that is very rarely given to managers. Take Arteta at Arsenal, his start there was pretty shaky and he was certainly under pressure, fans were not impressed and wanted him out. But the board kept faith, made some decent signings and they've flourished and had a great season. I think Spurs are going to have to do similar, stick with someone for at least a season to get 'Angeball' properly setup.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Tuesday, June 6, 2023, 09:21:17
In the Premier league time is something that is very rarely given to managers. Take Arteta at Arsenal, his start there was pretty shaky and he was certainly under pressure, fans were not impressed and wanted him out. But the board kept faith, made some decent signings and they've flourished and had a great season. I think Spurs are going to have to do similar, stick with someone for at least a season to get 'Angeball' properly setup.

You say... Had a great season, I say... Biggest choke job ever.... Two ways of looking at the same thing I guess...


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, June 6, 2023, 09:43:05
You say... Had a great season, I say... Biggest choke job ever.... Two ways of looking at the same thing I guess...

If I was an Arsenal fan I would definitely have a feeling of 'what could have been'. Not taking maximum points from Forest and Southampton at home when in a very commanding position and then being very much second best in the game away to Manchester City would have been hugely disappointing.

But looking at things more holistically, they hadn't finished as runners up since 15/16. Since then, their league finishes were 5th (Wenger), 6th (Wenger), 5th, (Emery) 8th (Arteta), 8th (Arteta), 5th (Arteta) and then 2nd. (this season) Surprising in a way that after dismissing Emery for finishing 5th they they tolerated consecutive 8th position finishes and then another 5th. Finally it seems to have clicked this year and compared to previous years their points tally is miles better than in previous years.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, June 6, 2023, 09:54:54
Spurs confirm Postecoglu on a 4 year deal.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, June 6, 2023, 17:39:21
Shrews confirm Steve Cotterill gone


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, June 6, 2023, 17:53:28
I don't Coterill was the same after suffering with Covid


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Tuesday, June 6, 2023, 19:10:28
Think he left because they bought a DOF in


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Friday, June 9, 2023, 12:08:06
Steve Morrison who was linked with our job a few times takes over at Hornchurch in the Isthmian Premier League. Bit of a drop!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, June 9, 2023, 12:18:10
Steve Morrison who was linked with our job a few times takes over at Hornchurch in the Isthmian Premier League. Bit of a drop!
Very local to where he grew up and played a lot of his football but yes thats some drop for him, if he proves his worth he will soon get a bigger club though.

Thats quite a coup for them. Was rumoured to be going back to Cardiff only a couple of weeks ago.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, June 9, 2023, 12:35:00
Very local to where he grew up and played a lot of his football but yes thats some drop for him, if he proves his worth he will soon get a bigger club though.

Thats quite a coup for them. Was rumoured to be going back to Cardiff only a couple of weeks ago.

Another non-league club throwing a bit of green about seemingly.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, June 12, 2023, 15:02:43
Gerrard off to ‘manage’ in the Saudi Pro League.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Posh Red on Monday, June 12, 2023, 15:17:17
Gerrard off to ‘manage’ in the Saudi Pro League.

A big payday before he becomes a full time pundit perhaps


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, June 19, 2023, 11:09:40
Karl Robinson turns down chance to manager Reading.

https://therealefl.co.uk/2023/06/19/former-oxford-united-and-charlton-athletic-boss-rejects-move-to-new-club/


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Monday, June 19, 2023, 11:30:55
Gary O'Neil sacked by Bournemouth.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, June 19, 2023, 11:40:04
Gary O'Neil sacked by Bournemouth.
That's pretty inexplicable....


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: adje on Monday, June 19, 2023, 11:58:57
Another reason to dislike Bournemouth. Big time Charlies who deserve relegation next seson


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Exiled Bob on Monday, June 19, 2023, 12:08:39
Karl Robinson turns down chance to manager Reading.

https://therealefl.co.uk/2023/06/19/former-oxford-united-and-charlton-athletic-boss-rejects-move-to-new-club/
Town fan ;) He's waiting for the big one.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, June 19, 2023, 12:21:19
Gary O'Neil sacked by Bournemouth.

A month's a long time in football.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fy-_o2PWIAA2-I2?format=jpg&name=small)


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, June 19, 2023, 12:32:35
Brendan Rodgers back at Celtic.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: dalumpimunki on Monday, June 19, 2023, 13:08:00
Gary O'Neil sacked by Bournemouth.

What a bunch of cunts. A club that barely breaks 5 figure attendances thinks it should be doing better than Premier League survival. Can't imagine most fans are impressed. Now watch them appoint a "name" with no fucking clue and be bottom by Christmas, panic sack him and add another relegation to Big Sam's c.v. by seasons end.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, June 19, 2023, 14:12:36
They've appointed Andoni Iraola


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: THE FLASH on Monday, June 19, 2023, 14:14:33
Bmuff are a shower of cunts..hope this blows up in their face!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Monday, June 19, 2023, 14:18:54
They've appointed Andoni Iraola
Is he a bit of a tit? 😂


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: swindonmaniac on Monday, June 19, 2023, 14:22:33
Another reason to dislike Bournemouth. Big time Charlies who deserve relegation next seson
Deserved it this season,  cheating bastards.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, June 19, 2023, 14:23:49
Is he a bit of a tit? 😂

haha.

I reckon he'll feel a bit of a nip in the air down the south coast in winter!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: UTR on Monday, June 19, 2023, 17:02:45
Darren Moore departs Sheffield Wednesday after taking them up through the play offs


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Monday, June 19, 2023, 17:04:38
That's a decent job on offer wonder If they will for someone like Wellens


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, June 19, 2023, 17:06:11
Darren Moore departs Sheffield Wednesday after taking them up through the play offs
With O'Neil thats genuinely 2 shocking managerial changes today.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, June 22, 2023, 12:29:27
Its looking like next season's basket case is going to be Reading at the moment, maybe they are giving up on next season with their points deduction and imminent further deductions and starting 24/25 with a full team instead


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, June 22, 2023, 12:41:19
Reading are looking to appoint former Southampton manager Ruben Selles.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Thursday, June 22, 2023, 12:45:26
How can they afford that :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Thursday, June 22, 2023, 21:43:12
Mike Duff to Swansea


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Monday, June 26, 2023, 17:18:36
Matt Taylor new Shrewsbury boss


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Monday, June 26, 2023, 17:40:21
He's done well for himself and quite a surprise


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Monday, June 26, 2023, 18:49:47
Reading appoint Ruben Selles


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Monday, June 26, 2023, 18:51:09
But have no money🤣


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Monday, June 26, 2023, 19:07:59
Exactly my thoughts!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Exiled Bob on Monday, June 26, 2023, 20:15:10
11.11 win %. Let's hope he keeps that up.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Batch on Monday, June 26, 2023, 21:09:22
11.11 win %. Let's hope he keeps that up.

As long as it's the only thing he keeps up


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Power to people on Monday, July 3, 2023, 11:10:32
Reading appoint Ruben Selles

He obviously likes the idea of not getting paid, although football contracts are secure should they go into admin, must be desperate for a job to go there though


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, July 4, 2023, 12:20:16
According to Pete O’Rourke Drunkan Ferguson is on borrowed time at FGR.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Mooneyraker on Tuesday, July 4, 2023, 12:52:13
Not sure how anyone can want to work for Dale "Just Stop Oil" Vince. What are the footballs made of again? Oh...


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, July 4, 2023, 13:29:41
According to Pete O’Rourke Drunkan Ferguson is on borrowed time at FGR.

Gone

https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/former-everton-rangers-newcastle-united-8573886


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, July 4, 2023, 13:43:13
Think FGR could very well struggle this season. He was on a 5 year contract so unless he's waived compensation that's going to cost them a pretty penny.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 4, 2023, 13:48:39
Gone

https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/former-everton-rangers-newcastle-united-8573886

Interesting timing


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Hyabb17 on Tuesday, July 4, 2023, 13:55:08
He had a 5 year contract


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Post by: Miles Mayhem on Tuesday, July 4, 2023, 14:00:22
I bumped into him only the other day at Wiltshire FCs training ground.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Tuesday, July 4, 2023, 14:07:14
Would have preferred Duncan Disorderly to remain in post for the first few games of the season at least, just to confirm that the issue was crap manager as opposed to unreasonable recruitment demands & lack of confidence from the owner for example.
I guess that the latter has just been demonstrated.



Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, July 4, 2023, 14:18:09
Think FGR could very well struggle this season. He was on a 5 year contract so unless he's waived compensation that's going to cost them a pretty penny.

I strongly suspect that even if it were a 5 year contract it had some quite substantial break clauses in the clubs favour within it, whatever one may think of Vince and his thoughts re the environment you don't make the money he made, from where he came from if you aren't pretty savvy!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 4, 2023, 14:27:57
Gone

https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/former-everton-rangers-newcastle-united-8573886
Falling out over "change of direction of new signings" with new DoF Allan Steele apparently.

At least he lasted longer than Morris did :)


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, July 4, 2023, 14:59:24
Falling out over "change of direction of new signings" with new DoF Allan Steele apparently.


Just to be the first to say it 'Well at least they are making new signings' ha ha ha...

At least he lasted longer than Morris did :)

Yeah that is quite funny!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, July 4, 2023, 15:38:01
Obvious disaster appointment became disaster appointment. Less points than Jody Morris.


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Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, July 4, 2023, 15:43:41
Some on here wanted him as Swindon manager!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, July 4, 2023, 15:44:13
Some on here wanted him as Swindon manager!

One.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, July 4, 2023, 15:47:57
One.

Can't remember who that was, they must have kept it low key.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, July 4, 2023, 15:59:26
Obvious disaster appointment became disaster appointment. Less points than Jody Morris.

Not really comparing like for like as they were a squad hovering around the relegation places when Ferguson took over there and ours were similarly threatening play offs.

Albeit they were both equally poor as managers.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, July 4, 2023, 16:05:56
Can't remember who that was, they must have kept it low key.

Didn't mention it very often.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DMC on Tuesday, July 4, 2023, 16:41:59
Some on here wanted him as Swindon manager!
Some were happy with Morris too


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, July 4, 2023, 16:44:13
I was happy before he actually started managing!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, July 4, 2023, 16:46:37
Some were happy with Morris too

Morris was a great appointment on paper. Just an absolute disaster on grass.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Mooneyraker on Tuesday, July 4, 2023, 17:03:25
I was happy with Morris and even prepared to stick with him with Sandro out of the way.

Felt he was shabbily dealt with, with failed signings and the shenanigans around Ed Brand.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DMC on Tuesday, July 4, 2023, 17:12:10
I was happy with Morris and even prepared to stick with him with Sandro out of the way.

Felt he was shabbily dealt with, with failed signings and the shenanigans around Ed Brand.
He got absolutely everything he asked for and more to be honest. Good salary, we took so long with Brand as Chelsea wanted to loan as such and he wanted him to be perm so we negotiated until it was possible. We had other targets and he said get Kadji instead, he even said he was his player.

I wanted Morris too but i think as much as we can batter the club this one is all on him.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Mooneyraker on Tuesday, July 4, 2023, 17:16:49
He got absolutely everything he asked for and more to be honest. Good salary, we took so long with Brand as Chelsea wanted to loan as such and he wanted him to be perm so we negotiated until it was possible. We had other targets and he said get Kadji instead, he even said he was his player.

I wanted Morris too but i think as much as we can batter the club this one is all on him.

Oh he played his part for sure. Just felt he was set up to fail in many respects.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Tuesday, July 4, 2023, 18:46:00
On another note, Fleetwoods owner just got 13 years in the clink.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: tans on Tuesday, July 4, 2023, 20:46:49
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12263977/League-Two-Forest-Green-Rovers-Hannah-Dingley-interim-boss-landmark-move.html


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, July 4, 2023, 21:01:32
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12263977/League-Two-Forest-Green-Rovers-Hannah-Dingley-interim-boss-landmark-move.html

Hey Siri

Show me how to upstage Wrexham.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Mooneyraker on Tuesday, July 4, 2023, 21:52:18
Just when you thought that this league couldn’t be any more of a circus…


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Bogus Dave on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 06:13:50
Club places academy director in interim charge whilst searching for a first team manager so someone with knowledge of the club can keep things ticking over during an important part of the season

How is that a circus?


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Post by: Abrahammer on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 06:15:22
I guess it’s no surprise FGR were the first ones to take the plunge


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Post by: ThreeDrawsMentality on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 06:22:03
Club places academy director in interim charge whilst searching for a first team manager so someone with knowledge of the club can keep things ticking over during an important part of the season

How is that a circus?
Absolutely this.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 06:24:51
Club places academy director in interim charge whilst searching for a first team manager so someone with knowledge of the club can keep things ticking over during an important part of the season

How is that a circus?

….because it’s a clown academy rather than a football academy


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 06:29:54
Club places academy director in interim charge whilst searching for a first team manager so someone with knowledge of the club can keep things ticking over during an important part of the season

How is that a circus?

I guess it's not an appointment deliberately designed to create a circus, as you say take gender out and it's a completely normal thing for a football club to do. But obviously it's going to attract an absolute ton of media attention whether they want it or not.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Mooneyraker on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 06:30:03
Loving the “woker than thou” pearl clutching here.

Why is it a circus?

“Media circus” (noun - Informal):
A period of frenetic media coverage of an event or person.
"the case rapidly became a media circus"

If you can’t see that the first female managerial appointment is going to have this effect then frankly I give up.

So desperate to play the woke “why should it?!” “#HerGameToo” card you can’t even see the obvious point I’m making.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: ThreeDrawsMentality on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 06:34:07
Loving the “woker than thou” pearl clutching here.

Why is it a circus?

“Media circus” (noun - Informal):
A period of frenetic media coverage of an event or person.
"the case rapidly became a media circus"

If you can’t see that the first female managerial appointment is going to have this effect then frankly I give up.

So desperate to play the woke “why should it?!” “#HerGameToo” card you can’t even see the obvious point I’m making.
Of the current staff FGR have though, she is the most senior and qualified. They have no members of staff in the senior team as they've all left so have gone for the person in charge of the Academy. If they had skipped past her to then select a more junior Male to be the caretaker, then that's a whole other issue in itself. The situation in isolation is nothing to do with the 'woke' term you love to throw about, it's simply choosing the most senior person to be the caretaker manager for the brief time before they appoint someone from Brentford B inevitably.


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Post by: Mooneyraker on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 06:40:03
I’m not disputing any of that (other than the claim that I “love” throwing any terms around.)

Question: has this gained more or less national media attention than the average appointment of an interim manager in L2?


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Post by: Family at War on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 06:59:41
FGr have nothing to loose she is qualified and on a winner - can't be worse than Dunc


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Post by: Mr Stevens on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 07:32:31
The Manageress is coming true!


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Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 08:23:48
Smacks of Vince grabbing more media coverage. Got to be sorry for her being used. If their Academy Manager had been a man I’m certain a senior player would have been put in interim charge.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: ThreeDrawsMentality on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 08:26:26
Smacks of Vince grabbing more media coverage. Got to be sorry for her being used. If their Academy Manager had been a man I’m certain a senior player would have been put in interim charge.
For their previous 2 caretaker managers, The Academy Manager was used (Jimmy Ball and Scott Bartlett), so they've followed the same process for the third time in a row.


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Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 08:28:08
Smacks of Vince grabbing more media coverage. Got to be sorry for her being used. If their Academy Manager had been a man I’m certain a senior player would have been put in interim charge.

Have they got many players there with a UEFA pro licence who have been within the club hierarchy for 4+ years

For their previous 2 caretaker managers, The Academy Manager was used (Jimmy Ball and Scott Bartlett), so they've followed the same process for the third time in a row.


Ah but they both had a cock, entirely different!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 08:37:17
Of course it’s different. Both of those had experience of men’s senior football. Not that I know, but I expect coaching kids is vastly different to coaching professional footballers - especially when you have zero experience of it.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: ThreeDrawsMentality on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 08:39:04
Of course it’s different. Both of those had experience of men’s senior football. Not that I know, but I expect coaching kids is vastly different to coaching professional footballers - especially when you have zero experience of it.
So has Dingley....Senior men's coach at Burton for 3 years.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: ThreeDrawsMentality on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 08:39:33


Ah but they both had a cock, entirely different!
  :D


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Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 08:41:39
So has Dingley....Senior men's coach at Burton for 3 years.
So why is there all this hoo ha if she’s done it before.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 08:43:25
So why is there all this hoo ha if she’s done it before.

Because she has a vagina rather than a cock.


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Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 08:46:11
Bollocks to that!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 08:47:41
If you love throwing the term woke around, or hate people doing it, or like most people recognise its a real cringey thing in our society but a term that is thrown around too easily.......at the end of the day this has been done mainly because Dale Vince wants to be the first.

Because he is a smarmy sanctimonious smug vegan cunt. You can add woke to that if you wish or not.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 08:48:27
Because she has a vagina rather than a cock.

I'm surprised Vince didn't hire a woman with a cock to be honest.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 08:51:34
Of course it’s different. Both of those had experience of men’s senior football. Not that I know, but I expect coaching kids is vastly different to coaching professional footballers - especially when you have zero experience of it.

But she has experience of men's senior football. She was head of coaching at Burton Albion (the men's team) for 3 years.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 08:52:32
But she has experience of men's senior football. She was head of coaching at Burton Albion (the men's team) for 3 years.
See above


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 08:54:02
If you love throwing the term woke around, or hate people doing it, or like most people recognise its a real cringey thing in our society but a term that is thrown around too easily.......at the end of the day this has been done mainly because Dale Vince wants to be the first.

Because he is a smarmy sanctimonious smug vegan cunt. You can add woke to that if you wish or not.

My biggest bug bear is this fucking 'woke' term. Does my box in!  :badmood:


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 08:56:41
Ditto


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 08:59:27
My biggest bug bear is this fucking 'woke' term. Does my box in!  :badmood:

Its definitely a real thing. But overused by Daily Mail readers to describe anything they don't like. By the time they'd realised what it meant it had probably jumped the shark.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 09:01:49
See above

Ah fair enough. I actually didn't know about that 15 minutes ago! :)


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Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 09:41:50
Ditto
Ditto²


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: adje on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 12:10:24
My biggest bug bear is this fucking 'woke' term. Does my box in!  :badmood:
To me it will always be the past participle of wake


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 12:44:35
John Sheridan was really quite good at the game but a fucking imbecile as a Manager.  Should be more women in coaching, especially those who have not played the game as well.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 13:09:20
My biggest bug bear is this fucking 'woke' term. Does my box in!  :badmood:

Why create another word when cunt will do?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Wednesday, July 5, 2023, 22:35:22
My biggest bug bear is this fucking 'woke' term. Does my box in!  :badmood:

The best thing about being supposedly ''woke'' is that the same people calling me woke are also the same people telling me to ''wake up''...

Like, wtf do they want me to do? If I'm already supposedly woke then I am already awake, so I can't possibly also wake up simultaneously it just isn't possible. If they want me to wake up then I can't possibly already be awake the fucking idiots  ::)

That does my box in  :D


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: 4D on Thursday, July 6, 2023, 07:45:23
You're asleep, look at all the ramblings you do in your dreams.  :)


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Thursday, July 6, 2023, 16:13:40
You're asleep, look at all the ramblings you do in your dreams.  :)

Gotta live out your dreams though 4D, not much else left  :) Although if I'm asleep that means I'm not awake, so I need to wake up..but I'm not woke. They can't have it both ways  :D


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, July 17, 2023, 12:59:28
Dave Horseman being touted as the next FGR Head Coach. Another inexperienced appointment which seems a huge gamble to me. Been there. Done that.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Bogus Dave on Monday, July 17, 2023, 13:31:55
I refuse to believe Dave Horseman is a real name


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Nemo on Monday, July 17, 2023, 13:32:24
I refuse to believe Dave Horseman is a real name

It's a shame Mike Spearman has passed, as any RTS player knows that he'd have been a hard counter.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: DiV on Monday, July 17, 2023, 13:32:31
I refuse to believe Dave Horseman is a real name

Yeah. I mean who the fuck would have the name ‘dave’


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Bogus Dave on Monday, July 17, 2023, 13:43:00
Could they not get his brother bojak ffs forest Green grow up


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Tails on Monday, July 17, 2023, 15:16:48
Could they not get his brother bojak ffs forest Green grow up

Bojak got cancelled, no way the hippie takes a chance on him.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2022-2023; Recycling Centre
Post by: Boy About Town on Monday, July 17, 2023, 19:07:01
Sat in the garden sipping a cold one after visiting my Nan who is pretty unwell. I am the last man who should laugh at other peoples names FTR. As I chuckled at Bogus Dave’s comment I explained why I was laughing to my Bristolian better half. She said that she went to school with a Dave Horseman. Had to be the same one. Showed her the pic and yep - Bristol lad.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, August 27, 2023, 20:33:01
Lee Johnson gone from Hibs - Fatty Evans in the frame

Dean Holden sacked from Charlton


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Batch on Sunday, August 27, 2023, 20:34:17
Lee Johnson gone from Hibs.

Dean Holden reportedly sacked by Charlton (unconfirmed)

Edit: Audrey got there first!!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Mooneyraker on Sunday, August 27, 2023, 20:39:57
I hadn't realised that before yesterday Garner was 3 wins from 15 for Colchester...  :eek:


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, August 27, 2023, 20:42:21
Charlton like to change their managers frequently


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, August 27, 2023, 20:44:46
I hadn't realised that before yesterday Garner was 3 wins from 15 for Colchester...  :eek:
Me neither. I always thought he was doing OK there.

Next couple of months we can fuck up 2 more ex managers with Notts County and Colchester coming up.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, August 27, 2023, 20:49:51
Williams seems the most stable out of the three outcast!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, August 28, 2023, 18:57:42
Charlton have approached Posh about Darren Ferguson


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Quagmire on Monday, August 28, 2023, 18:59:54
Charlton have approached Posh about Darren Ferguson

That’s a strange one.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Monday, August 28, 2023, 19:00:01
Fatty Evans would be a better option!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Monday, August 28, 2023, 19:27:44
Charlton have approached Posh about Darren Ferguson

Where have you seen that?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, August 28, 2023, 19:30:07
One of MacAnthony’s tweets. Said he always promised Ferguson of any interest.

Think he declined


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Thursday, August 31, 2023, 10:27:14
"Michael Appleton and Dave Challinor have both been interviewed to become the next Charlton boss.

Former Blackpool, Lincoln and Oxford manager Appleton and current Stockport boss Challinor were both spoken to on Wednesday as Charlton narrow down their search for a new manager following the sacking of Dean Holden at the weekend."



Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: UTR on Thursday, August 31, 2023, 11:25:03
Stockport losing their manager would be interesting. Heavily backed to win the league this season, although I suppose they have the funds to adequately replace him


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, August 31, 2023, 12:40:15
Challinor seems to be Charlton's man.

Let's hope Stockport go get a proven L2 manager like the fella at Crawley...


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, August 31, 2023, 12:52:58
Challinor seems to be Charlton's man.

Let's hope Stockport go get a proven L2 manager like the fella at Crawley...
Lindsey would be a great fit for them ;)

Nigel Clough from Mansfield would be a contender according to their forum.

Whoever it is wont be be able to sign any more players as he would be appointed after deadline day, barring freebies of course, so would have to work with what they already have.

Not sure financially Charlton would be much of a step up from Stockport but a league higher and a much bigger club could be an incentive.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Thursday, August 31, 2023, 13:14:59
Pete Wild to Stockport according to rumours


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, August 31, 2023, 13:21:17
Pete Wild to Stockport according to rumours
Proper L2 merry-go-round that.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Thursday, August 31, 2023, 17:01:06
Challinor seems to be Charlton's man.

Let's hope Stockport go get a proven L2 manager like the fella at Crawley...

Apparently not!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Batch on Sunday, September 3, 2023, 10:12:59
Scott Brown (Fleetwood Town) gone


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, September 3, 2023, 10:17:58
Scott Brown (Fleetwood Town) gone
Wow thats early.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Sunday, September 3, 2023, 10:33:40
Wow thats early.

You want to move my Supermarine post to here? I couldn’t find this tread earlier.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, September 3, 2023, 12:13:53
You want to move my Supermarine post to here? I couldn’t find this tread earlier.
No its fine mate, local interest and all that.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Sunday, September 3, 2023, 14:51:00
No its fine mate, local interest and all that.
👍


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, September 7, 2023, 13:30:20
Wayne Rooney to Birmingham?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Thursday, September 7, 2023, 14:03:07
Captain, Leader, Legend being touted for first managerial job in Saudi.

Is there a book on first greedy import to receive a public spanking for getting the beers in?

Those going to clubs near the border with Abu Dhabi have an advantage I guess.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Mooneyraker on Thursday, September 7, 2023, 14:27:15
Captain, Leader, Legend being touted for first managerial job in Saudi.

Is there a book on first greedy import to receive a public spanking for getting the beers in?

Those going to clubs near the border with Abu Dhabi have an advantage I guess.

I wondered if our ex manager might be his #2… they are best pals.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Thursday, September 7, 2023, 15:19:49
Follow the sun, follow the money :pint:


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, September 8, 2023, 10:34:43
Follow the sun, follow the money :pint:

On a similar basis if you can track it down its worth reading the hilariously bad interview Jordan Henderson has given, he basically inadvertently I suspect defines sportswashing.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Posh Red on Friday, September 8, 2023, 10:53:19
On a similar basis if you can track it down its worth reading the hilariously bad interview Jordan Henderson has given, he basically inadvertently I suspect defines sportswashing.

A prime example of making yourself look a prick by trying to justify something by not telling the truth.

If he had just said, the money was just too good to turn down then you can respect him (even if you don’t agree)


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, September 8, 2023, 11:05:59
Lee Johnson to Fleetwood


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Friday, September 8, 2023, 11:34:22
Appleton to Charlton


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, September 10, 2023, 10:32:23
Tranmere sack their manager


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, September 10, 2023, 11:47:12
I wonder if Robbie Fowler will be favourite again!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, September 10, 2023, 12:12:01
I wonder if Robbie Fowler will be favourite again!
Unlikely! hes on mega bucks managing in the Saudi 1st divison with Al-Qadsiah!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Sunday, September 10, 2023, 12:15:09
I wonder if Robbie Fowler will be favourite again!

He'll be on a decent wage even in the Saudi First Division.
Managed in Australia & India so maybe not too fussed about being close to the comforts of home.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, September 10, 2023, 12:17:22
its all about the money these days😆


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Sunday, September 10, 2023, 12:59:42
Be the scouse James Corden wont it


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, September 10, 2023, 13:00:46
He's too busy putting weight on contributing nothing on Talksport


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, September 10, 2023, 14:47:38
Herr Flick has been sacked as Germany’s head coach


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, September 10, 2023, 14:50:02
Job for Klopp😀


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Sunday, September 10, 2023, 15:28:18
Job for Klopp😀

Just as Mo Salah exits too. Unless that is dead, dead, dead in the water?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, September 10, 2023, 15:31:10
Just as Mo Salah exits too. Unless that is dead, dead, dead in the water?

If the offer still stands I don't see how any club can turn down 200 million


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Mooneyraker on Monday, September 11, 2023, 07:12:00
I imagine that the amount of chest thumping in the Crawley region on Saturday could have caused a minor earth tremor.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: adje on Monday, September 11, 2023, 07:38:18
Nigel Blackwell to boss Tranmere?🙂


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, September 11, 2023, 07:58:21
If the offer still stands I don't see how any club can turn down 200 million

I think the Saudi transfer window slammed shut on the 7th September.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Monday, September 11, 2023, 21:46:18
Nigel Blackwell to boss Tranmere?🙂
Will he bring in a goalkeeper with no arms and a face like his?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: MarkyTee on Tuesday, September 12, 2023, 09:34:41
Jamie Cureton leaves Enfield, where he was Player-Manager. Hes 48!!!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, September 18, 2023, 13:11:53
Colin to step down as Huddersfield manager


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Monday, September 18, 2023, 17:10:16
He should have left in the summer when he kept them up.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, September 21, 2023, 09:43:40
Wade Elliott sacked as Cheltnumb manager with numb sitting comfortably bottom of League 1 with 1 points and no goals yet in the league and on a 11 game winless run.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Thursday, September 21, 2023, 11:03:36
Wade Elliott sacked as Cheltnumb manager with numb sitting comfortably bottom of League 1 with 1 points and no goals yet in the league and on a 11 game winless run.

Harry Toffolo had 25p on this


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, September 21, 2023, 18:12:34
Darren Moore gets the Uddersfield gig


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Tails on Friday, September 22, 2023, 08:01:24
Good luck to him. Harshly treated at Wednesday who's decision to sack him so far seems like a bad one.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Posh Red on Friday, September 22, 2023, 08:07:06
Good luck to him. Harshly treated at Wednesday who's decision to sack him so far seems like a bad one.

By all accounts he had said they needed to spend to improve the squad, the owners said no you need to get us promotion with what you’ve got.

Unsurprisingly the manager has (so far) been proven right


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: THE FLASH on Friday, September 22, 2023, 11:04:50
By all accounts he had said they needed to spend to improve the squad, the owners said no you need to get us promotion with what you’ve got.

Unsurprisingly the manager has (so far) been proven right

Didnt he ask for a huge salary increase too? That was the Chairmans story anyway.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Thursday, September 28, 2023, 20:43:00
Darrell Clarke to Cheltenham


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, September 29, 2023, 09:19:38
Darrell Clarke to Cheltenham
Interesting to see how he does, many Town fans wanted him when Morris/Flynn were appointed.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: DiV on Friday, September 29, 2023, 14:31:47
…and many wanted that bellend no where near the club.
Hope we pass them at the end of the season.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, September 29, 2023, 14:58:30
Ah, the dog bringer


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Friday, September 29, 2023, 16:42:16
Shitheads refer to him as dopey Darrell :D


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 30, 2023, 08:19:51
…and many wanted that bellend no where near the club.
Hope we pass them at the end of the season.
I have to admit I was strongly in the "no thanks" camp.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, September 30, 2023, 08:47:35
About as likeable as Steve Coterill  :cry:


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: adje on Saturday, September 30, 2023, 14:29:30
I have to admit I was strongly in the "no thanks" camp.
Me too.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, October 4, 2023, 19:10:55
Hughes gone from Bradford

https://www.bradfordcityafc.com/news/2023/october/bantams-part-company-with-hughes/


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: hobnob on Wednesday, October 4, 2023, 19:19:43
Is Hughes going good for us at the weekend or not? Not sure.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: sir windon on Wednesday, October 4, 2023, 19:25:32
Possibly….but not so good for keeping hold of Young in January.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Wednesday, October 4, 2023, 19:29:06
I would have preferred it if they had sacked him after Saturdays game now we may get the new manager bounce even if it’s a temporary one😂


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Wednesday, October 4, 2023, 19:49:32
Thats Young gone back in January for sure then


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Crozzer on Wednesday, October 4, 2023, 20:20:33
In other news, Sheffield Wednesday have sacked boss Xisco Munoz.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Crozzer on Wednesday, October 4, 2023, 20:27:15
Hughes gone from Bradford

https://www.bradfordcityafc.com/news/2023/october/bantams-part-company-with-hughes/

Wonder if they will try and offer Luke Williams mega dosh?  Sparky must have been on a good wedge. Kevin McDonald (not Kevin MacDonald) is caretaker.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, October 5, 2023, 02:36:34
Can’t see him wanting to go there. They’ll go for the fella at Gateshead - Williamson


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, October 5, 2023, 08:30:14
With the sacking of Hughes, it appears to be more or less the end of the dinosaur manager. On paper Hughes would have been an exciting prospect at Valley Parade but seemingly he played dour, unexciting football which was boring the locals to tears. I'm not being ageist, but the older school manager does tend to be set in their ways whereas managers like Flynn, Luke Williams etc do appear to have embraced a more attacking, open mindset.

Mark Hughes can now go and play with John Sheridan in Dino World, at junction 26 off the M6. 


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Thursday, October 5, 2023, 10:47:56
Neil Harris gone from Gillingham


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, October 5, 2023, 10:48:58
Neil Harris gone from Gillingham
Wow. Hes gonna have to relocate his caravan now.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, October 5, 2023, 10:49:35
Neil Harris gone from Gillingham

He's another one, like Mark Hughes that tends to adopt a very boring defensive approach. It will be interesting to see if the shackles are removed whether Gills or Bradford improve.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, October 5, 2023, 10:51:18
Harris to Bradford...you heard it here first ;)


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, October 5, 2023, 10:52:31
Harris to Bradford...you heard it here first ;)

Their fans would implode if that happened, surely! :)


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, October 5, 2023, 10:58:36
Neil Harris gone from Gillingham

Interesting to see where he rolls up, his managerial career to date has been a tour of obnoxious clubs!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Thursday, October 5, 2023, 10:58:38
Wonder if they will go in for Flynn, ex player etc


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, October 5, 2023, 11:02:34
Scott Lindsey must be up there as one of the favourites for the Gills gig, ex player, lived in Gillingham for 30+ years and is the son of an ex Gills player Keith Lindsey. Also getting great results with limited funds at Crawley so far.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, October 5, 2023, 11:04:02
Wonder if they will go in for Flynn, ex player etc
They wouldnt pay the compo for Flynn, they will go for an out of work manager as they usually do.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, October 5, 2023, 11:05:22
Scott Lindsey must be up there as one of the favourites for the Gills gig, ex player, lived in Gillingham for 30+ years and is the son of an ex Gills player Keith Lindsey. Also getting great results with limited funds at Crawley so far.

They wouldnt pay the compo for Lindsey, they will go for an out of work manager as they usually do.  ;)


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: DiV on Thursday, October 5, 2023, 11:10:23
Would be such a Swindon thing to do…
…accept an approach from Bradford for Flynn just in time for him to be Bradford manager for Saturday…


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, October 5, 2023, 11:11:07
Jeez there is a major call for Steve Evans to take over a smanager at Bradford by their fans!

Darren Moore could be a good fit if they will pay his wages, several posters saying they should appoint Darell Clarke! obviously the internet news hasnt reached Yorkshire yet about his appointment at Cheltnumb.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: DiV on Thursday, October 5, 2023, 11:12:03
Jeez there is a major call for Steve Evans to take over a smanager at Bradford by their fans!

Darren Moore could be a good fit if they will pay his wages, several posters saying they should appoint Darell Clarke! obviously the internet news hasnt reached Yorkshire yet about his appointment at Cheltnumb.

Moore has just joined ‘uddersfield


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, October 5, 2023, 11:14:02
They wouldnt pay the compo for Lindsey, they will go for an out of work manager as they usually do.  ;)
Gillingham have WAY more money that Bradford have.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, October 5, 2023, 11:14:56
Moore has just joined ‘uddersfield
Oh I missed that :) Internet news hasnt reached Somerset yet!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, October 5, 2023, 11:18:03
I'd like to think we shouldn't be worried about Flynn, but in the last decade we've lost managers to Crawley, Salford and Mansfield...


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: UTR on Thursday, October 5, 2023, 11:28:01
I’d like to think we’re okay with Flynn for now with location and the start of the season but stranger things have happened.

Ask me again on February 1st after we’ve seen if he’s properly backed in the January window


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, October 5, 2023, 11:31:08
Jeez there is a major call for Steve Evans to take over a smanager at Bradford by their fans!


He is undoubtedly a fat obnoxious prick, but his is a fairly successful fat obnoxious prick at the level?

Warnock at Bradford or his eyes still higher?

I’d like to think we’re okay with Flynn for now with location and the start of the season but stranger things have happened.

Ask me again on February 1st after we’ve seen if he’s properly backed in the January window

I don't think Bradford will wait that long to appoint a new manager, they are not Swindon Town you know!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, October 5, 2023, 12:08:20
I'd like to think we shouldn't be worried about Flynn, but in the last decade we've lost managers to Crawley, Salford and Mansfield...
And Charlton.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, October 5, 2023, 12:29:43
And Charlton.

Well yes, but Charlton I think most would concede are a bigger club/better position. The other three were a succession of ones that felt like downgrades, but three different managers disagreed - no doubt for various reasons. I'll never expect our managers not to jump for a better job, but losing them to clubs that are at best at the same level feels like something avoidable.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, October 5, 2023, 12:57:42
Jeez there is a major call for Steve Evans to take over a smanager at Bradford by their fans!

Darren Moore could be a good fit if they will pay his wages, several posters saying they should appoint Darell Clarke! obviously the internet news hasnt reached Yorkshire yet about his appointment at Cheltnumb.

I can understand that - the guy (however obnoxious) gets results at this level. And for all our woes about being stuck in the bottom division, I think Bradford fans can also have valid claims given they've been in League 2 since 2019 without really looking like they were getting out of it. Looking at Wiki they were in the league cup final in 2013 and got to the 1/4 finals of the FA Cup in 2015 and are much too big a club to be dicking about down here to be honest.

I think it'll be Pete Wild to Bradford, he's earned a shot at a bigger club IMO.

As for Gillingham, you'd imagine Flynn might be on their shortlist as well, especially if their MO is now to play more exciting football.  


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Thursday, October 5, 2023, 13:51:14


As for Gillingham, you'd imagine Flynn might be on their shortlist as well, especially if their MO is now to play more exciting football.  

I doubt that the Gills are equipped with a pair of ready to go rampaging centre backs.

Would be very surprised if Flynn upped sticks to either Bradford or Gillingham.
If what we've seen so far is the preferred style of play then he may well want a full pre season at a new club.
Not for a while yet with a bit of luck.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, October 5, 2023, 14:27:10
I doubt that the Gills are equipped with a pair of ready to go rampaging centre backs.

Would be very surprised if Flynn upped sticks to either Bradford or Gillingham.
If what we've seen so far is the preferred style of play then he may well want a full pre season at a new club.
Not for a while yet with a bit of luck.

That's true abut the rampaging centre backs. You would hope that Flynn sees what he's trying to do at STFC as a longer term project.

I guess owners will look at what managers are doing at one club and think it's easy for that blueprint to be copied easily at theirs. I think what you say makes a lot of sense, I still expect him to be on the Gills radar however, but I don't think he'll be lured by the multiple options of a continuous beautifully tarmacked drive in the garden of England.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Thursday, October 5, 2023, 14:51:59
I have to say, whenever I see Steve Evans interviewed I think he comes across exceptionally well. I know that doesn't fit the obnoxious fat controller narrative but I just felt I should put it out there...


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: MarkyTee on Thursday, October 5, 2023, 14:55:40
I remember the then, top of the table clash with Evans' Crawley when we spanked them 3-0 at home. He called us 'a circus team' in a pre game interview. I cant stand the bloke, but he seems to do a decent enough job...


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, October 5, 2023, 14:56:44
I have to say, whenever I see Steve Evans interviewed I think he comes across exceptionally well. I know that doesn't fit the obnoxious fat controller narrative but I just felt I should put it out there...

TBF negative things have been said about Wellens and positive things about Lindsey, its open house, worlds gone mad!  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

With these jobs popping up, Warnock is going to emerge somewhere!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: RobertT on Thursday, October 5, 2023, 16:27:29
I have to say, whenever I see Steve Evans interviewed I think he comes across exceptionally well. I know that doesn't fit the obnoxious fat controller narrative but I just felt I should put it out there...

It also doesn't stop the fact that he is a Doctor Who alien baddy.


Title: Re: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Oaksey Moonraker on Thursday, October 5, 2023, 18:32:33
I remember the then, top of the table clash with Evans' Crawley when we spanked them 3-0 at home. He called us 'a circus team' in a pre game interview. I cant stand the bloke, but he seems to do a decent enough job...
To quote PdC 'Who is this Steve Evans you talk about'


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: adje on Monday, October 9, 2023, 11:02:54
Birmingham sack their manager after beating WBA and climbing into the play off positions. Absolutely fucking mental. What do these clubs want?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: DiV on Monday, October 9, 2023, 11:07:35
Birmingham sack their manager after beating WBA and climbing into the play off positions. Absolutely fucking mental. What do these clubs want?

A more marketable name with a more global appeal.
In this instance - Wayne Rooney


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Monday, October 9, 2023, 11:07:57
Wayne Rooney’s Birmingham  :D


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Monday, October 9, 2023, 11:42:11
All 27% win rate too


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Posh Red on Monday, October 9, 2023, 13:49:01
A more marketable name with a more global appeal.
In this instance - Wayne Rooney

They did this before (with Zola if I recall), and that didn’t go very well


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Monday, October 9, 2023, 14:44:41
He’s only 37 and looks like an old man


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: adje on Monday, October 9, 2023, 21:39:47
A more marketable name with a more global appeal.
In this instance - Wayne Rooney
Because that always works!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, October 10, 2023, 19:18:57
What is it with Rooney, he's done nothing, even got the bullet in the US as he got found out, although I suppose sometimes a bigger name gets more exposure.

Be interesting to see who the Gills appoint, they seem to have a bit of money to throw about, I've seen Karl Robinson is seemingly high in the betting odds


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 10, 2023, 19:25:16
What is it with Rooney, he's done nothing, even got the bullet in the US as he got found out, although I suppose sometimes a bigger name gets more exposure.
I give you Steve Bruce and Mark Hughes, poor managers who have shit win ratios and yet still get jobs, until recently.

Be interesting to see who the Gills appoint, they seem to have a bit of money to throw about, I've seen Karl Robinson is seemingly high in the betting odds
So is Scott Lindsey up there with the favourites.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: adje on Tuesday, October 10, 2023, 19:51:06
Steve Bruce for Gillingham?🙂


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, October 12, 2023, 11:18:40
See Rooney got the Birmingham gig, and has added Ashley Cole & John O Shea to his backroom team along with a couple of guys who helped him fail in the US


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: adje on Friday, October 13, 2023, 20:51:16
Steve Bruce for Gillingham?🙂
Bloody hell, he's favourite now


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: welshred on Friday, October 13, 2023, 21:08:15
Bloody hell, he's favourite now

Fingers crossed he gets it.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, October 14, 2023, 04:35:52
Another pension top up especially if he gets a 2-3 year contract😁


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, October 16, 2023, 08:52:32
Graham Alexander on the verge of leaving Franchise apparently.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: 4D on Monday, October 16, 2023, 08:55:47
Graham Alexander on the verge of leaving Franchise apparently.

If thats true you can guarantee it will be just before we play them  ::)


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Monday, October 16, 2023, 09:11:55
Graham Alexander on the verge of leaving Franchise apparently.

Gone according to Pete O’Rourke

There goes Kemp


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: 4D on Monday, October 16, 2023, 09:35:19
I see Garner's ColU got battered 5-0 by FGR at the weekend  :-[


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Batch on Monday, October 16, 2023, 11:20:25
There goes Kemp

Damn. I felt sure we'd definitely be able to afford him in January.

Oh wait ..

:)


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: adje on Monday, October 16, 2023, 12:27:23
Gone according to Pete O’Rourke

There goes Kemp
Not til Jan tho?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, October 16, 2023, 12:50:14
Not til Jan tho?
Nope cant be recalled until Jan 1st.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Monday, October 16, 2023, 14:09:33
Thats what i mean, gone in Jan

Karl Robinson favourite for the job


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Monday, October 16, 2023, 14:11:14
Back to where it all started😁


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Mooneyraker on Monday, October 16, 2023, 14:12:01
If we have a contractually agreed fee for Kemp we should be doing anything, literally anything, we can to find the money.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, October 16, 2023, 14:15:34
Thats what i mean, gone in Jan

Karl Robinson favourite for the job

Kemp definitely would be going back if that happened


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: adje on Monday, October 16, 2023, 14:15:43
Thats what i mean, gone in Jan

Karl Robinson favourite for the job
Think that may have happened regardless of who's manager to be honest


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, October 16, 2023, 14:17:54
I have a sneaky suspicion Kemp might not want to go back to Franchise, whoever is the manager. He's barely been given a chance by anyone at the club but has now had 2 successful loan spells away from there so I reckon he'll be instructing his agent to try and do something at SN1


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, October 16, 2023, 14:26:06
I have a sneaky suspicion Kemp might not want to go back to Franchise, whoever is the manager. He's barely been given a chance by anyone at the club but has now had 2 successful loan spells away from there so I reckon he'll be instructing his agent to try and do something at SN1

I suspect a lot is going to boil down to how much contract he has left at MK...


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Mooneyraker on Monday, October 16, 2023, 14:32:54
I suspect a lot is going to boil down to how much contract he has left at MK...

OOC in the summer isn't he?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Bob1978 on Monday, October 16, 2023, 14:39:32
If he wont sign a contract with mk and we have payed to keep him for the season there is not much benefit in no recalling him. Unless my want to sell him elsewhere- but depends on a lot of things.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, October 16, 2023, 14:58:48
I don't think anyone really knows either the loan contract situation, or Kemp's contract situation at Franchise. January might tell us more, not a lot we can do until then so we may as well enjoy his contributions.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, October 16, 2023, 15:24:07

Karl Robinson favourite for the job

Is he? Being reported in the NE that Mike Williamson is 1/6 favourite?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Monday, October 16, 2023, 15:25:20
Not just that, but also the Twine money situation which we're owed.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Monday, October 16, 2023, 15:49:42
Not just that, but also the Twine money situation which we're owed.

Has it actually been confirmed they owe us money or is it conjecture?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Monday, October 16, 2023, 15:51:00
Has it actually been confirmed they owe us money or is it conjecture?

Well tansmedia hasn't reported it yet.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Monday, October 16, 2023, 15:57:42
Chortle


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: JoeMezz on Monday, October 16, 2023, 18:01:06
Kemp will be sold in January. Doubt it’ll be to us


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Bob1978 on Monday, October 16, 2023, 19:16:21
It depends he might get more clubs to choose from and better personal terms if he waits until he is a free in the summer.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 17, 2023, 09:44:04
Is he? Being reported in the NE that Mike Williamson is 1/6 favourite?
https://uk.movies.yahoo.com/chesterfields-next-opponents-gateshead-set-080220505.html

Looking likely.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, October 17, 2023, 16:46:36
Stephen Clemence looks like the Pikeys new manager


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Tuesday, October 17, 2023, 18:36:31
https://uk.movies.yahoo.com/chesterfields-next-opponents-gateshead-set-080220505.html

Looking likely.

Done


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, October 18, 2023, 10:43:18
So far this season then in the last 2 weeks and the upcoming 2 weeks we have/will have played Bradford, Gills and MKD all either with a new manager or caretaker manager in charge.

Not sure I can ever remember that happening before in such quick succession, and even more so at such an early stage of the season.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Wednesday, October 18, 2023, 16:39:39
It wouldn’t surprise me if Colchester join the list😁


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, October 18, 2023, 17:36:16
We aren't playing Lincoln soon are we?

Too much apple pie?

https://www.weareimps.com/news/2023/october/kennedy-and-butterfield-leave-imps/


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Wednesday, October 18, 2023, 17:42:38
 :D :D


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Wednesday, October 18, 2023, 19:16:47
Rowett gone from Millwall


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Wednesday, October 18, 2023, 19:19:42
Perfect job for Steve Evans!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, October 18, 2023, 19:19:58
Blimey, only took the dog for a walk and another one bites the dust.

Going for a bath in a minute, assume half the league will be gone


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Power to people on Friday, October 20, 2023, 11:40:03
How long can Garner hang on at Colchester ? can't be much longer surely, although until after we have played them will be fine


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, October 20, 2023, 11:49:58
Gills unlikely to have one before Tuesday. Btw, they’ve sold 400 so far which isn’t bad.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Friday, October 20, 2023, 16:23:37
Gills unlikely to have one before Tuesday. Btw, they’ve sold 400 so far which isn’t bad.

I thought that they had a new one & that Stephen Clemence looked like whoever it was that had got the job.  :)


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, October 20, 2023, 16:34:14
I always thought that Stephen Clemence looked a bit like Phil Smith.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Saturday, October 21, 2023, 17:42:27
Ben Garner sacked by Colchester


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, October 21, 2023, 17:43:17
Another club we play soon where we could suffer new manager bounce.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: oxonrobin on Saturday, October 21, 2023, 17:47:06
Ben Garner sacked by Colchester

Will he get another FL manager role do you think? Horrible record since his time here.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Pookemon on Saturday, October 21, 2023, 23:33:55
Will he get another FL manager role do you think? Horrible record since his time here.
And Rovers before us.  Useless manager everywhere bar a freak season at town.   

That said, I've no doubt we'd have been better with him in charge last year and was disappointed he left when, and in the manner that he did.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, October 22, 2023, 09:53:01
Will he get another FL manager role do you think? Horrible record since his time here.
I bet you his next job won't be in the top 4 divisions, he will go Conference at best for his next job, if he gets another manager job, otherwise its back to the academy for him which probably suits him best.

Never took to him, very poor manager who got lucky in 1 season with us.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, October 22, 2023, 20:45:55
Karl Robinson has turned down the opportunity to have talks with Bradford City.

He’ll be back at MK for Saturday won’t he.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Quagmire on Sunday, October 22, 2023, 20:49:51
Karl Robinson has turned down the opportunity to have talks with Bradford City.

He’ll be back at MK for Saturday won’t he.

They’ve got a manager?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, October 23, 2023, 06:25:47
Alexander was sacked a week or so ago


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Quagmire on Monday, October 23, 2023, 06:31:08
Alexander was sacked a week or so ago

They’ve replaced him.
Keep up Aud.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, October 23, 2023, 07:24:49
Who with?

Ah, Williamson. Bugger I.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 24, 2023, 10:01:36
Ben Garner sacked by Colchester
They have appointed Matthew Etherington as temporary (probable) new interim manager.

He was a 33.3% win ratio in his 3 game career, ironically with a win vs Swindon and losing the other 2 games.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, October 26, 2023, 09:43:48
Twitter says Scott Lindsey to be appointed Gillingham manager

Yikes!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: THE FLASH on Thursday, October 26, 2023, 10:03:14
Big ties to Gills and Medway....wouldnt surprise me.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, October 26, 2023, 10:05:07
Twitter says Scott Lindsey to be appointed Gillingham manager

Yikes!

Scott Lindsey must be up there as one of the favourites for the Gills gig, ex player, lived in Gillingham for 30+ years and is the son of an ex Gills player Keith Lindsey. Also getting great results with limited funds at Crawley so far.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: 4D on Thursday, October 26, 2023, 10:45:29
I can see it now, play off final US v the Jills, Lindsey at the helm.  :pint:


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, October 26, 2023, 12:27:34
Joey B looks to be on the way out. Couldn't happen to a nicer fella.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, October 26, 2023, 12:34:16
Joey B looks to be on the way out. Couldn't happen to a nicer fella.

Confirmed. on both points :)


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Mooneyraker on Thursday, October 26, 2023, 12:39:45
Joey B looks to be on the way out. Couldn't happen to a nicer fella.

I always had a soft spot for The Gas, based on days of West Match Plus through their relentless 'striker factory' era (Marcus Stewart,  Cureton, Barry Hayles, Nathan Ellington, Rickie Lambert et al!) but that guy's presence removed any remaining goodwill.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Broadbents Tackle on Thursday, October 26, 2023, 13:34:40
I always had a soft spot for The Gas, based on days of West Match Plus through their relentless 'striker factory' era (Marcus Stewart,  Cureton, Barry Hayles, Nathan Ellington, Rickie Lambert et al!) but that guy's presence removed any remaining goodwill.

First Mooney as part of your username, and now this. Sickening.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Posh Red on Thursday, October 26, 2023, 13:41:08
Barton sacked as Garner has become available :)


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Mooneyraker on Thursday, October 26, 2023, 14:02:25
First Mooney as part of your username, and now this. Sickening.

Haha.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Batch on Thursday, October 26, 2023, 17:37:55
Hahaha fuck you Joey.

Actually think that's a bit harsh by rovers but since he's an arseI don't care


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Thursday, October 26, 2023, 17:59:21
Hearing Scott Lindsey has got the Gillingham gig


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Thursday, October 26, 2023, 18:07:51
Hearing Scott Lindsey has got the Gillingham gig

Excellent  :D
I thought the new owners were ambitious!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, October 26, 2023, 18:11:01
Hearing Scott Lindsey has got the Gillingham gig

If that's true, I have a strange feeling he'll do really well there. I think he's doing a pretty decent job at Crawley to be fair to him.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: NotHarryAgombar on Thursday, October 26, 2023, 18:45:21
With the squad limitations at Swindon he did fairly well too. The football was tedious but we were in or around the top 7 after half the season when he left.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Mooneyraker on Thursday, October 26, 2023, 19:01:47
Thumping the badge gets less convincing if it is the third badge in a year...


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Thursday, October 26, 2023, 19:20:58
Thumping the badge gets less convincing if it is the third badge in a year...

Won't stop him though. Be the same copy and paste interviews.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: derbystfc on Friday, October 27, 2023, 07:02:40
With the squad limitations at Swindon he did fairly well too. The football was tedious but we were in or around the top 7 after half the season when he left.

With a few teams having games on hand on us tho! 


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Friday, October 27, 2023, 09:42:42
With a few teams having games on hand on us tho! 

Everyone had at least one game in hand on us, some had two or three.....and we were just outside the play offs.

Scott Lindsey is very liberal with the truth. Like it being our best start in however many years in 10 games, when we had the same points and a better goal difference the year prior when he was at the club. Only had to go back one year for that claim to be false.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Mooneyraker on Friday, October 27, 2023, 19:21:27
Garner/WAGMI mayhem mash up:

https://www.cu-fc.com/news/2023/october/statement-from-the-chairman/


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, October 28, 2023, 19:59:22
Gareth Ainsworth gone from QPR


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: adje on Saturday, October 28, 2023, 20:07:41
Gareth Ainsworth gone from QPR
Cue the "that's Mahoney gone in Jan" posts!🙂


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Saturday, October 28, 2023, 20:09:34
That's Mahoney gone in Jan then...


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, October 28, 2023, 20:20:00
Hurst gone from Grimsby


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: adje on Saturday, October 28, 2023, 20:20:31
That's Mahoney gone in Jan then...
I was just thinking that!🙂


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Saturday, October 28, 2023, 20:34:12
Gareth Ainsworth sacked from QPR

Suspect that fat scouse James Corden lookalike will put in for it


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, October 28, 2023, 20:36:29
Or the other scouse wife beater.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, October 29, 2023, 10:35:03
Or the other scouse wife beater.
Fan favourite at QPR, would suit him and them. He hates Swindon too so would recall Mahoney in January :D


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, October 29, 2023, 10:43:12
Fan favourite at QPR, would suit him and them. He hates Swindon too so would recall Mahoney in January :D

Just to piss us off :D


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Sunday, October 29, 2023, 15:03:07
Nigel Pearson gone from the 82ers


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, October 29, 2023, 15:06:12
I don’t think his health is the best but rugby seems to be Lansdowns priority.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, October 29, 2023, 15:08:06
The 82ers aren’t happy with that.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, October 29, 2023, 15:09:36
Two divisions apart but like us not happy with the owner and playing budget😁


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, October 29, 2023, 15:15:53
They’re a stabilised Championship club but, as ever, fans aren’t happy with wallowing around in any league if there’s little prospect of actual success.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, October 29, 2023, 15:28:31
They have the set up for premiere league football but seem to stagnate in mid table. It’s enjoyable reading the meltdown on their forum for a change  :D


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Sunday, October 29, 2023, 20:07:49
Delusions of grandeur


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, October 29, 2023, 20:11:14
It’s comedy gold reading about how hard it’s been supporting them for the last 30 years. They want to try being a Swindon fan! I can’t remember the last time both Bristol clubs were looking for a new manager at the same time :D


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Sunday, October 29, 2023, 20:51:12
Delusions of grandeur

Pay massive eages to average players oo

Friend from work is mates with an ex Citu players brother, his  played there for 4 years and was on over 15k a week


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: 4D on Sunday, October 29, 2023, 23:04:40
Barton to City?  :D


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: RedRag on Monday, October 30, 2023, 06:46:54
Catching up with this thread cheered me up.....then pessimist that I am, I pondered Flynn to Rovers  :hmmm:


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Monday, October 30, 2023, 07:12:45
Catching up with this thread cheered me up.....then pessimist that I am, I pondered Flynn to Rovers  :hmmm:

We’d take the money.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, October 30, 2023, 10:14:07
I must admit I had no idea that Rovers were taken over in the Summer by Hussain AlSaeed from the very dodgy Wael family promising lots of things to their fans like promotion and a brand new upgrade of their ground into an 18k all seater.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Power to people on Monday, October 30, 2023, 13:16:51
Barton to City?  :D

Is there another club stupid enough to give Barton a job back in football ?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, October 31, 2023, 11:16:00
https://www.crawleytownfc.com/news/2023/october/club-statement--matthew-etherington/


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, October 31, 2023, 14:16:10
What did he say when he left us



Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, October 31, 2023, 14:23:00
What did he say when he left us



Fuck all is my recollection.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Tuesday, October 31, 2023, 16:32:01
What did he say when he left us



Nothing


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Bob1978 on Tuesday, October 31, 2023, 16:52:01
What did he say when he left us



Reputation management!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, October 31, 2023, 17:34:26
He crept out of the back door :D


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, October 31, 2023, 21:24:36
Looking like John Eustace to the Slave Traders


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, October 31, 2023, 21:26:40
Underwhelming🤣


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, November 1, 2023, 09:38:28
Twitter says Scott Lindsey to be appointed Gillingham manager

Yikes!
Crawley wanted too much compo. Stephen Clemence to be appointed.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, November 1, 2023, 09:58:52
Based on a minute sample size, I think Eustace might be a shrewd appointment for City. He seemed to be doing pretty well at Birmingham before they went all Hollywood and have started to slide down the table. Wasn't he one of the names in the frames to come here before Brand Morris?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, November 1, 2023, 13:17:37
Crawley wanted too much compo. Stephen Clemence to be appointed.
Confirmed


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, November 1, 2023, 13:20:36
Damn, felt sure we had a chest-pump-sell-on too


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, November 1, 2023, 19:01:14
Apparently, Ian Hollowhead is high up on the new Gas manager’s job.

If that happens . . . :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Thursday, November 2, 2023, 15:47:06
It’s now looking like it could be Frank Lampards Bristol City.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, November 2, 2023, 15:53:39
Cowleys back out of the Bradford gig at the last minute. ‘Family reasons’.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: adje on Thursday, November 2, 2023, 15:56:06
Apparently, Ian Hollowhead is high up on the new Gas manager’s job.

If that happens . . . :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:
They wouldn't,would they?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, November 2, 2023, 15:58:33
It’s now looking like it could be Frank Lampards Bristol City.
Shitheads board saying he is "not currently under consideration"


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Thursday, November 2, 2023, 15:59:00
Hope so just for his interviews😁


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Thursday, November 2, 2023, 15:59:41
Shitheads board saying he is "not currently under consideration"

Bookies need to change their odds currently 1/4 :D


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Mooneyraker on Thursday, November 2, 2023, 15:59:58
Cowleys back out of the Bradford gig at the last minute. ‘Family reasons’.

Were they booked into the same hotel as Jonny Williams? Must be a proper shithole.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Thursday, November 2, 2023, 16:01:02
Maybe they will go back to Lincoln.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, November 2, 2023, 16:02:18
Bookies need to change their odds currently 1/4 :D
13 wins in the last 60 games he has managed a 21% win ratio! yes let them have him, they deserve each other.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Thursday, November 2, 2023, 16:03:41
13 wins in the last 60 games he has managed a 21% win ratio! yes let them have him, they deserve each other.

It’s great watching their expectations collapse😁


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, November 2, 2023, 16:19:31
Not sure why Gills fans are so very excited about naming Stephen Clemence as their new manager, he has managed a total of 5 games while joint caretaker at Sheff Weds winning 2 of them.

This appointment smacks of Jody Morris to me. Decent assistant/coach but totally inexperienced as a manager despite being 45, only time will tell though.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Posh Red on Thursday, November 2, 2023, 16:33:54
Not sure why Gills fans are so very excited about naming Stephen Clemence as their new manager, he has managed a total of 5 games while joint caretaker at Sheff Weds winning 2 of them.

This appointment smacks of Jody Morris to me. Decent assistant/coach but totally inexperienced as a manager despite being 45, only time will tell though.

Maybe because it’s not Scott Lindsey :)


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, November 2, 2023, 16:36:09
Maybe because it’s not Scott Lindsey :)

A compelling argument.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: DiV on Thursday, November 2, 2023, 23:54:09
Not sure why Gills fans are so very excited about naming Stephen Clemence as their new manager, he has managed a total of 5 games while joint caretaker at Sheff Weds winning 2 of them.

This appointment smacks of Jody Morris to me. Decent assistant/coach but totally inexperienced as a manager despite being 45, only time will tell though.


In fairness these type of appointments usually go one way or the other.
We’ve had decent success under first time managers mostly.
I know the game has changed a lot since we had success under the likes of Hoddle & McMahon

….he could do well for them or absolutely bomb like Jody Morris.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, November 3, 2023, 10:13:19

In fairness these type of appointments usually go one way or the other.
We’ve had decent success under first time managers mostly.
I know the game has changed a lot since we had success under the likes of Hoddle & McMahon

….he could do well for them or absolutely bomb like Jody Morris.
The difference with Hoddle, Ardiles, Macmahon and Macari was that they were appointed right at the end of their playing career (actually with all playing their last game while manager with us).

Clemence and for that matter Morris too had 10-15 years as a coach before being appointed as manager/head coach.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, November 3, 2023, 11:07:44
The difference with Hoddle, Ardiles, Macmahon and Macari was that they were appointed right at the end of their playing career (actually with all playing their last game while manager with us).

Clemence and for that matter Morris too had 10-15 years as a coach before being appointed as manager/head coach.
Hoddle played for Chelsea after us  ;)


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, November 3, 2023, 11:13:41
Hoddle played for Chelsea after us  ;)
The statement still stands though they were managers who were still playing when they became our manager rather than having 10 years as coach/assistant priot to taking the top job.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: DiV on Friday, November 3, 2023, 11:40:37
The statement still stands though they were managers who were still playing when they became our manager rather than having 10 years as coach/assistant priot to taking the top job.

…now you’d think logically after 10+ years of coaching someone would be a better manager than someone who had just hung up their boots.

Morris was not.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: RobertT on Friday, November 3, 2023, 11:47:08
The difference with Hoddle, Ardiles, Macmahon and Macari was that they were appointed right at the end of their playing career (actually with all playing their last game while manager with us).

Clemence and for that matter Morris too had 10-15 years as a coach before being appointed as manager/head coach.

I don't think we can underestimate the sheer impact those type of almost ex-players had on the players around them, and the draw they were to players.  Morris may well have played the game at a high level, but he is not a name, and that gap from his playing days means very few young players would know much if anything about them.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, November 3, 2023, 11:53:57
I don't think we can underestimate the sheer impact those type of almost ex-players had on the players around them, and the draw they were to players. 
Absolutely, they were all leaders on the pitch, the player manager role seems to have been banished to the annals of history now though.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Bob1978 on Friday, November 3, 2023, 11:59:24
I remember one of McMahon's first games - from where I was in the townend he was literally driving the midfield forward.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: RobertT on Friday, November 3, 2023, 12:01:29
And even if they only played a handful, they were still running training as if they were a player.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, November 3, 2023, 12:29:30
I remember one of McMahon's first games - from where I was in the townend he was literally driving the midfield forward.

Got sent off in his first IIRC.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Friday, November 3, 2023, 12:31:01
Great news hopefully fans will now be able to relax and let the manager build a decent squad.
https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/23899235.michael-flynn-pens-new-swindon-town-contract-2026/


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Batch on Friday, November 3, 2023, 12:44:30
Great news hopefully fans will now be able to relax and let the manager build a decent squad.

But nothings changed yet?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Friday, November 3, 2023, 12:48:03
But nothings changed yet?


The manager has committed to the club so despite all the doom & gloom things behind the scenes can’t be as bad as some fans think.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: sir windon on Friday, November 3, 2023, 12:57:58
Flynn’s new contract doesn’t mean he’ll stay the term but at least we’d get compensation.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Friday, November 3, 2023, 13:02:15
I'm happy he has signed a new contract, because he is a good manager. But it means very little if we aren't able to assemble a squad worthy of promotion because of limitations.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Batch on Friday, November 3, 2023, 13:04:59
The manager has committed to the club so despite all the doom & gloom things behind the scenes can’t be as bad as some fans think.

Well he must be happy to stay, that's true. And good.

The rest we'll see over time.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Friday, November 3, 2023, 13:06:01
Agreed, him signing a new contract doesn’t guarantee him staying but he could easily have thrown his name forward for the Bristol Rovers job with a good chance he would have got it.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Frigby Daser on Friday, November 3, 2023, 13:29:30
The timing of this is notable, with so many other jobs available in the league. Good news that he wants to stick with us. I wonder if he’s used interest from elsewhere to create a better deal… It’s also interesting that, with rumours circulating of Morfuni/Kiely drying up the funding prior to a potential sale, that they’re prepared to extend the manager’s contract. Perhaps sale rumours were unduly optimistic. 2+2=??


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, November 3, 2023, 13:32:59
The timing of this is notable, with so many other jobs available in the league. Good news that he wants to stick with us. I wonder if he’s used interest from elsewhere to create a better deal… It’s also interesting that, with rumours circulating of Morfuni/Kiely drying up the funding prior to a potential sale, that they’re prepared to extend the manager’s contract. Perhaps sale rumours were unduly optimistic. 2+2=??

Or an American billionaire is about to buy us (wildly unduly optimistic!)


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Friday, November 3, 2023, 13:45:14
Agreed, him signing a new contract doesn’t guarantee him staying but he could easily have thrown his name forward for the Bristol Rovers job with a good chance he would have got it.
I really like Flynn, but he’d have been no where near being considered for that job whether he put his name forward or not.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Friday, November 3, 2023, 13:53:07
I really like Flynn, but he’d have been no where near being considered for that job whether he put his name forward or not.

I would take him over Neil Harris and Dean Holden currently 1st & 2nd favourites


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: 4D on Friday, November 3, 2023, 14:01:11
Would love to see.....

Garner to Gas
Barton to City

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Friday, November 3, 2023, 14:17:49
 :D :D


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: RobertT on Friday, November 3, 2023, 14:22:51
Or an American billionaire is about to buy us (wildly unduly optimistic!)

If anyone knows Duncan Shearer, get him to have a word in Arthur Blanks ear - Atlanta Utd have a tie-up with Aberdeen, so an English team in Red who need a couple of loan players must surely be handy as well?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Friday, November 3, 2023, 14:30:04
Digressing slightly who would you prefer if they were both young and available Duncan Shearer or Sam Parkin🤔


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: RobertT on Friday, November 3, 2023, 14:31:59
Duncan, by a Country Mile.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Posh Red on Friday, November 3, 2023, 14:32:46
Digressing slightly who would you prefer if they were both young and available Duncan Shearer or Sam Parkin🤔

Loved Sam Parkin, but it would have to be Deadly Dunc


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Friday, November 3, 2023, 14:33:36
Loved Sam Parkin, but it would have to be Deadly Dunc

Same here😁


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, November 3, 2023, 18:22:01
My God, Bradford fans are of the opinion Joey Barton would be a good fit and is likely.

And I like Bradford.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Mooneyraker on Friday, November 3, 2023, 18:26:06
My God, Bradford fans are of the opinion Joey Barton would be a good fit and is likely.

And I like Bradford.

The only place that bloke is a good fit is HMP Strangeways.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Friday, November 3, 2023, 18:27:19
He has more life’s than a cat!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, November 3, 2023, 18:39:20
Also, Notts County fans are worried Luke Warm may be tempted to the 82ers.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Friday, November 3, 2023, 18:43:20
I wonder if he’d be foolish enough to leave County!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, November 3, 2023, 18:44:51
He knows the club - youth team manager at the 82ers.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Friday, November 3, 2023, 18:46:10
I forget about his stint there but still a massive step up.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, November 3, 2023, 18:50:38
I forget about his stint there but still a massive step up.
Big step down going from the worlds oldest professional club with a history to a club who were formed in 1982.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Friday, November 3, 2023, 18:52:40
Big step down going from the worlds oldest professional club with a history to a club who were formed in 1982.

That was cleverly done :clap:


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Monday, November 6, 2023, 13:04:11
Looks like Liam Manning is off to Bristol City from Oxford


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Monday, November 6, 2023, 15:08:16
Looks like Liam Manning is off to Bristol City from Oxford

Let’s hope it derails the pox promotion push if he leaves.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Monday, November 6, 2023, 15:12:36
Lets hope Hatswell (former Oxford) and Flynn (former Bradford) don't get poached.

Or there again.....Who knows whats best?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Monday, November 6, 2023, 15:16:36
Lets hope Hatswell (former Oxford) and Flynn (former Bradford) don't get poached.

Or there again.....Who knows whats best?

Flynn is worth decent compo now he’s extended his contract :D


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: JoeMezz on Monday, November 6, 2023, 15:17:02
Lets hope Hatswell (former Oxford) and Flynn (former Bradford) don't get poached.

Or there again.....Who knows whats best?

Or was Flynn's contract extension for us to get compensation from Oxford? Maybe a stretch too far


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Monday, November 6, 2023, 15:36:22
Or was Flynn's contract extension for us to get compensation from Oxford? Maybe a stretch too far

They wont go for Flynn, they will go for someone like Eustace or Rowett i suspect


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, November 6, 2023, 15:53:26
Flynn’s done nothing to interest a club higher up the food chain.

His contract extension still has me a bit baffled.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, November 6, 2023, 15:56:06
Flynn’s done nothing to interest a club higher up the food chain.

His contract extension still has me a bit baffled.

Conspiracy theory alert: He was ready to walk last week but the offer of a shiny new contract was provided. Absolutely no idea it there is any grain of truth in that, just something I heard on the grapevine.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Monday, November 6, 2023, 16:04:36
Karl Robinson now odds on favourite for the Bristol Rovers job.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Batch on Monday, November 6, 2023, 16:06:57
Conspiracy theory alert: He was ready to walk last week but the offer of a shiny new contract was provided. Absolutely no idea it there is any grain of truth in that, just something I heard on the grapevine.

I think Tans said it within 30 seconds
(Bradford?)


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Monday, November 6, 2023, 16:07:55
Even Bristol Rovers if they can’t get anyone else.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, November 6, 2023, 16:08:20
Conspiracy theory alert: He was ready to walk last week but the offer of a shiny new contract was provided. Absolutely no idea it there is any grain of truth in that, just something I heard on the grapevine.
May be Bradford, but not up a league surely.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, November 6, 2023, 16:44:05
I didn't say to another club.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, November 6, 2023, 16:44:40
Just walk?

Yikes!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, November 6, 2023, 16:56:37
Just walk?

Yikes!

That's the rumour. October has been an awful month form wise and you can't really blame him given his squad options. I guess his thinking was he could leave before it got much worse.

I dunno what to believe in truth anymore mind.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: UTR on Monday, November 6, 2023, 17:02:38
That's the rumour. October has been an awful month form wise and you can't really blame him given his squad options. I guess his thinking was he could leave before it got much worse.

I dunno what to believe in truth anymore mind.

Wouldn’t have blamed him but I suppose after Walsall, he’s a bit more in need of this appointment to go well.

I don’t buy the “why would he sign a new contract if things were bad” line though. Who wouldn’t sign a contract for probably better salary and better security if the opportunity arose, he can’t really lose there. He either gets a better pay out if sacked, gets a better salary in the meantime and if there’s a risk he’s possibly not going to get paid then it makes little difference anyway, might as well still go for the better contract.

Hope he does stick around and is backed though, with time and the right resources I think he’ll do very well.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Monday, November 6, 2023, 17:12:28
Graham Alexander appointed Bradford boss

Joe Edwards Millwall manager


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Monday, November 6, 2023, 17:35:05
Edwards another young Chelsea coach.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, November 7, 2023, 15:21:10
Liam Manning confirmed new boss at Bristol City.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, November 7, 2023, 15:23:20
Oxford fans distraught :blowkiss:


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: @MacPhlea on Tuesday, November 7, 2023, 16:25:55
Conspiracy theory alert: He was ready to walk last week but the offer of a shiny new contract was provided. Absolutely no idea it there is any grain of truth in that, just something I heard on the grapevine.
I'll add fuel to the conspiracy - I was chatting to a Newport fan whilst on holiday (ironically teh day we played them) and he said there were polarised views on his departure 1) the fans respected him for his managerial skills in difficult circumstances (along  with Hatswell) so love him 2) the fans disovered that he was party to some of the dodgy dealings that were taking place in the background that weren't in Newport's best interest's so hate him...

The reality - managers work within the confines of what they are offered/given by their Chairmen even thought they may not agree with it... provided he gets the team winning on the pitch after Saturdays performance then I'll leave it to the trust to work out what is going on on the boardroom
 


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, November 7, 2023, 16:29:58
Liam Manning confirmed new boss at Bristol City.

  :D


Title: Re: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Tuesday, November 7, 2023, 20:47:04
Oxford fans distraught :blowkiss:
Robinson back in charge?

Sent from my XQ-AD51


Title: Re: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, November 7, 2023, 21:04:35
Robinson back in charge?

Sent from my XQ-AD51

Favourite for Bristol Rovers.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: horlock07 on Saturday, November 11, 2023, 10:18:57
Lampard favourite for the Oxford job?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: adje on Saturday, November 11, 2023, 15:48:04
Lampard favourite for the Oxford job?
I completely missed the Manning thing!😄
Should be in the trivial happy thing!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Monday, November 13, 2023, 10:17:23
Matt Taylor sacked by Rotherham


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, November 13, 2023, 10:21:16
Matt Taylor sacked by Rotherham

Poor sod, of they had only sacked him a bit earlier he could have thrown his hat in the ring for the Foreign Secretary job!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, November 13, 2023, 10:21:19
Matt Taylor sacked by Rotherham

Is that the ex-Exeter one and not our ex-player? (I think he's at Shrewsbury)


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Monday, November 13, 2023, 10:43:20
Is that the ex-Exeter one and not our ex-player? (I think he's at Shrewsbury)

Exeter


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, November 13, 2023, 10:49:22
Exeter

Danke.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, November 13, 2023, 14:49:41
Luke Williams 2/5 for the piss stains vacancy


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Monday, November 13, 2023, 14:59:16
He’d be better off staying where he his at a proper club with lots of history.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, November 13, 2023, 15:00:17
Luke Williams 2/5 for the piss stains vacancy
Des Buckingham favourite still though, as of 2 hours ago.

Quote
Oxford-born Buckingham would be a popular choice among U’s supporters, with the 38-year-old currently in charge of Indian Super League side Mumbai City, following stints with Wellington Phoenix and New Zealand age group teams.

According to The Sack Race, Buckingham is 1/2 to take over at United.

He is closely followed by Notts County head coach Williams, who guided the Magpies back into the Football League last season and has got them sitting fifth in League Two this campaign.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: 4D on Monday, November 13, 2023, 16:54:44
Luke Williams 2/5 for the piss stains vacancy

Would he want to take a step down?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, November 16, 2023, 12:37:16
Des Buckingham favourite still though, as of 2 hours ago.


Buckingham has been favourite for quite a few of the management job going around I've noticed, his name must be getting passed around


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, November 16, 2023, 12:46:03
Have to admit (and I'm sure I'm not alone) I've never heard of him. Interesting sounding guy that never played any professional football but became a football coach at the age of 18. Clearly has done very well in NZ, Australia and India but the challenge of doing that in the EFL is totally different.

There can't be too many managers in the EFL that are qualified pilots either!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, November 16, 2023, 12:47:44
Oxford fan becomes Oxford manager.

Burn in hell!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Thursday, November 16, 2023, 13:45:52
Have to admit (and I'm sure I'm not alone) I've never heard of him. Interesting sounding guy that never played any professional football but became a football coach at the age of 18. Clearly has done very well in NZ, Australia and India but the challenge of doing that in the EFL is totally different.

There can't be too many managers in the EFL that are qualified pilots either!

He works for the City Football Group which is owned by Man City - Mumbai City come under that umbrella.. Liam Manning also did before he went to Franchise. I suspect he will do will there. Compo was 900k according to reports.

Theres only one team out of Oxford and us thats on an upward trajectory, and it sure aint Swindon!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: fuzzy on Thursday, November 16, 2023, 14:12:41
Well, it won't be the ex Arsenal legend- https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/england-and-arsenal-legend-calls-time-on-management-career/ar-AA1jYhut?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=99014ff86cae4908a5d491966bd04f71&ei=64


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, November 16, 2023, 16:13:33
He works for the City Football Group which is owned by Man City - Mumbai City come under that umbrella.. Liam Manning also did before he went to Franchise. I suspect he will do will there. Compo was 900k according to reports.

Theres only one team out of Oxford and us thats on an upward trajectory, and it sure aint Swindon!
Tbf, the compo is offset against the compo they are receiving for Manning and his staff.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Thursday, November 16, 2023, 18:06:35
Confirmed now


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Batch on Monday, November 20, 2023, 13:08:39
Derek Adams leaves Morecambe after unnamed club activate release clause

https://www.morecambefc.com/news/2023/november/club-statement--derek-adams/


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, November 20, 2023, 13:09:53
Derek Adams leaves Morecambe after unnamed club activate release clause

Believed to be Ross County.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, November 24, 2023, 07:42:19
Artell to Grimsby - tba today


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, November 24, 2023, 09:11:52
Artell to Grimsby - tba today
I quite fancied him at the CG TBH, hes had a while out of the game so lets see what he can bring to them.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: 4D on Friday, November 24, 2023, 09:18:47
We must be playing Grimsby soon?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Cookie on Friday, November 24, 2023, 10:19:35
Assumed he'd go to morecambe.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Friday, November 24, 2023, 10:41:52
I quite fancied him at the CG TBH, hes had a while out of the game so lets see what he can bring to them.
Me too. I think he might be another Luke Williams. Did really well with Crewe until they were promoted and sold all the best players. The only thing that worried me was why noone else had jumped for him? Will be interesting to see how he progresses.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, November 27, 2023, 11:06:00
Artell to Grimsby - tba today
Confirmed


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Monday, November 27, 2023, 11:44:17
Ged Brannan new Morecambe manager


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, November 27, 2023, 11:52:58
Ged Brannan new Morecambe manager
Big step up from Accrington U23 manager to Morecambe.

Quote
We feel Ged is the perfect appointment to take Morecambe Football Club forward, having seen off a large number of impressive and reputable names during the recruitment process.
Chairman speak for "They all wanted too much money".


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, November 27, 2023, 11:57:52
Confirmed
Turned down the Morecambe job last week apparently.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Wednesday, November 29, 2023, 10:11:44
Mark Bonner gone from Cambridge.

Barry Corr takeover manager


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, November 30, 2023, 21:11:12
Matt Taylor, ex-Exeter and Rotherham manager, to be named new Bristol Rovers manager.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, December 1, 2023, 10:03:34
Matt Taylor, ex-Exeter and Rotherham manager, to be named new Bristol Rovers manager.
Works wonders at very small clubs, he will go down well at Rovers.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Batch on Friday, December 1, 2023, 10:27:01
Works wonders at very small clubs,  Rovers will go down, he

Corrected quote to preferred outcome.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, December 1, 2023, 10:34:33
Corrected quote to preferred outcome.
Unfortunately with Rovers new wealthy owners I cannot see this happening, even if it would be a great outcome.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, December 1, 2023, 10:44:04
New owners? What happened to Wael?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, December 1, 2023, 10:55:51
New owners? What happened to Wael?
All changed in the Summer.

https://therealefl.co.uk/2023/08/03/new-bristol-rovers-owner-speaks-out-after-takeover-completion/


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, December 1, 2023, 11:30:14
So how come they’re still shite?

Off topic, but has anyone seen that Joey Barton video bemoaning how his brother has spent 17 years in pokey for murdering a black student? What a completely despicable man he is.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Friday, December 1, 2023, 14:10:17
So how come they’re still shite?

Off topic, but has anyone seen that Joey Barton video bemoaning how his brother has spent 17 years in pokey for murdering a black student? What a completely despicable man he is.

He totally twisted the story in that video. Deluded twat he is


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, December 1, 2023, 14:33:33
How he’ll ever get another job is beyond me. Who would want to employ that piece of shit.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, December 1, 2023, 15:03:36
Matt Taylor, ex-Exeter and Rotherham manager, to be named new Bristol Rovers manager.
Confirmed


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, December 1, 2023, 15:22:08
How he’ll ever get another job is beyond me. Who would want to employ that piece of shit.

Shows how much interest I take in football these days, I hadn't noticed he had been sacked (in my defence looking at it e were on holiday when he got the old Spanish archer!)

He has a 38.4% win rate (broadly comparable to Wellens and Flynn) over nearly 300 games as a manager, sadly, knowing football, I can't see him having that great struggle getting another gig if he wants one.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Friday, December 1, 2023, 18:07:01
He comes with too much baggage best left well alone!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Legends Lounge Lovechild on Friday, December 1, 2023, 18:19:28
barton set to be announced as cambrigde manager


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, December 1, 2023, 19:19:01
Bollocks


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Nemo on Monday, December 4, 2023, 12:26:10
Having previously sacked Chris Wilder to install Paul Heckingbottom, Sheffield United are about to sack Paul Heckingbottom to install Chris Wilder. Never let it be said that they lack imagination.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Bennett on Monday, December 4, 2023, 12:28:54
I wonder if they bother cleaning out their office, or there are just two managers offices?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, December 4, 2023, 12:31:25
Having previously sacked Chris Wilder to install Paul Heckingbottom, Sheffield United are about to sack Paul Heckingbottom to install Chris Wilder. Never let it be said that they lack imagination.

Heckingbottom comes across as a bit of an arse in interviews.

I wonder if they bother cleaning out their office, or there are just two managers offices?

There was an interview with Rob Edwards after he took over the Luton job and he suggested that some of Nathan Jones stuff was still in the office when he took over.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Monday, December 4, 2023, 12:34:49
Heckingbottom comes across as a bit of an arse in interviews.

There was an interview with Rob Edwards after he took over the Luton job and he suggested that some of Nathan Jones stuff was still in the office when he took over.
And that's despite him being gone too long!  :D


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Bennett on Monday, December 4, 2023, 12:37:37
"Yeah, that's Nath's sarnie. I dunno when he's coming back for it, it proper stinks. Don't get to close to it!"


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, December 4, 2023, 12:40:36
"Yeah, that's Nath's sarnie. I dunno when he's coming back for it, it proper stinks. Don't get to close to it!"

IIRC it was a camp bed set up in the corner!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Bennett on Monday, December 4, 2023, 12:43:08
the sarnie is under that


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, December 4, 2023, 12:50:38
And that's despite him being gone too long!  :D
Its been a cruel cruel Summer.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Monday, December 4, 2023, 21:04:26
Mike Duff gone from Swansea

Alan Sheehan caretaker manager


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, December 4, 2023, 21:09:58
Not many of these managers that are successful at lower league teams actually make it at bigger clubs.

Poor old Figgy.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Monday, December 4, 2023, 22:06:49
Tony Mowbray gone from Sunderland


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 5, 2023, 09:42:34
Tony Mowbray gone from Sunderland
Thats a bit of a shock TBH they are currently in 9th place in the Championship 1 win off the play offs. Harsh. Must be stuff other than just football reasons.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, December 5, 2023, 10:15:55
Thats a bit of a shock TBH they are currently in 9th place in the Championship 1 win off the play offs. Harsh. Must be stuff other than just football reasons.

1 win in 8 I believe.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 5, 2023, 10:35:19
1 win in 8 I believe.
2 wins, 2 draws and 4 defeats in last 8.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Wednesday, December 6, 2023, 20:10:54
Neil Harris new Cambridge boss


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: harrisonaw on Tuesday, December 19, 2023, 11:37:30
Sutton sack  Matt Gray after 8-0 defeat to Stockport.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Tuesday, December 19, 2023, 11:41:21
Steven Schumacher set to leave Plymouth and join Stoke.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 19, 2023, 11:45:11
Sutton sack  Matt Gray after 8-0 defeat to Stockport.
Cant say thats not been coming TBH, he did well lasting that long.

Steven Schumacher set to leave Plymouth and join Stoke.
I have 2 cousins support 'Muff and they are absolutely gutted, massive loss for Plymouth.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: adje on Tuesday, December 19, 2023, 16:27:08
Cooper gone from Forest


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 19, 2023, 17:05:20
Cooper gone from Forest

Ouch. Not on a good run and the steaks are high I suppose. Think he's half decent though.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, December 19, 2023, 17:12:06
Mmmmm. Steaks!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, December 19, 2023, 17:13:48
Facebook group watch......

"Steve Cooper has left Forest wonder if he would ever come hear"


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: adje on Tuesday, December 19, 2023, 17:21:57
Relegation assured id say


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Tuesday, December 19, 2023, 17:46:02
Facebook group watch......

"Steve Cooper has left Forest wonder if he would ever come hear"

I saw that too :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Tuesday, December 19, 2023, 17:50:41
1) he wouldn’t accept the drop in salary
2) he’s used to signing 25 players in the transfer window🤣


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Tuesday, December 19, 2023, 18:01:59
1) he wouldn’t accept the drop in salary
2) he’s used to signing 25 players in the transfer window🤣
3) he looks like an extra from The Goonies


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Freeloader on Tuesday, December 19, 2023, 18:16:13
Facebook group watch......

"Steve Cooper has left Forest wonder if he would ever come hear"


Maybe they are confusing him with Mark Cooper, but he wouldn't come back, Yeovil have a competitive transfer budget.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, December 19, 2023, 23:49:24
Ouch. Not on a good run and the steaks are high I suppose. Think he's half decent though.

Think Palace have been interested in him for awhile but assumed (rightly) he wouldn’t last much longer at Forest so rather than pay the compensation for someone likely to be sacked they bought Roy out of retirement as a stop gap.

Wouldn’t be surprised to see Cooper rock up at Palace shortly to work along side Roy for the rest of the season to fully take over next season.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Abrahammer on Wednesday, December 20, 2023, 10:06:21
Forest have had a shocker here, they would probably end up regretting all this in the long run if the current bottom 3 weren't so bad


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, December 20, 2023, 12:11:45
Luke Warm linked to Swansea


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Wednesday, December 20, 2023, 12:29:55
Forest Green sacking their manager with Troy Deeney set to replace him


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, December 20, 2023, 12:33:09
Forest Green sacking their manager with Troy Deeney set to replace him

Deeney will be a terrible manager.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, December 20, 2023, 12:34:48
Deeney will be a terrible manager.

Except on 29th, obviously.

He's not overly popular at FGR: https://forum.fgr.co.uk/post/is-deeney-still-here-12795871


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, December 20, 2023, 12:59:06
Deeney will be a terrible manager.

Based on what out of interest? Clearly nobody knows but I assume he's done his badges etc?

Is it because basically he's going in 'cold' and without working alongside someone with experience for a few years etc?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, December 20, 2023, 13:18:32
Based on what out of interest? Clearly nobody knows but I assume he's done his badges etc?

Is it because basically he's going in 'cold' and without working alongside someone with experience for a few years etc?

His massive ego.
He also has a habit of slagging off his ex teammates, I can’t imagine his man management would be great.

He once told one of his clubs he wouldn’t sign a new contract until they got rid of the speed bumps on the drive into the training ground because it was ruining his sports car.
The blokes a fucking idiot.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, December 20, 2023, 13:20:50
Having an ex-striker hardman who's a bit of a character went so well for them last year after all.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: ThreeDrawsMentality on Wednesday, December 20, 2023, 13:25:56
He also feigned a 'knock' just last week so he didn't have to go to Scarborough in the FA Cup but instead could cover UCL game on TNT instead. Knocked cleared by the Saturday funnily enough.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, December 20, 2023, 13:28:57
His massive ego.
He also has a habit of slagging off his ex teammates, I can’t imagine his man management would be great.

He once told one of his clubs he wouldn’t sign a new contract until they got rid of the speed bumps on the drive into the training ground because it was ruining his sports car.
The blokes a fucking idiot.

ha - fair enough. At least you have your reasons :)


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Wednesday, December 20, 2023, 14:12:37
Based on their last two appointments have been thugs when Deeney gets the sack Barton will take over!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Wednesday, December 27, 2023, 10:56:58
Salford sack Neil Wood


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, December 27, 2023, 11:09:41
Salford sack Neil Wood
TBH getting beaten 5-1 at home to a very poor Tranmere side was definately the last straw.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, December 30, 2023, 15:20:25
Lee Johnson gets the boot from Fleetwood


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Quagmire on Saturday, December 30, 2023, 15:23:14
Lee Johnson gets the boot from Fleetwood

Had no idea he was even there. Can’t have been long?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Batch on Saturday, December 30, 2023, 15:30:39
10th September!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Quagmire on Saturday, December 30, 2023, 15:34:47
10th September!

Sacked twice in the same season before January? That’s some going.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, December 30, 2023, 15:46:47
Sort of manager that will end up here :D


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, December 30, 2023, 15:48:32
Good grief!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, December 30, 2023, 16:01:30
I’d prefer his old man if things ever got that bad!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, December 31, 2023, 11:08:25
I’d prefer his old man if things ever got that bad!
Please god no, the midget mockney twat.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Monday, January 1, 2024, 19:20:20
Matty Etherington sacked by Colchester


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Quagmire on Monday, January 1, 2024, 19:23:24
I see Charlie Adam got the Fleetwood gig.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Monday, January 1, 2024, 19:28:45
Matty Etherington sacked by Colchester

New manager bounce coming up😁


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Tuesday, January 2, 2024, 10:23:10
Wayne Rooney sacked by Birmingham

I bet John Eustace is absolutely pissing himself


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Pericardinho on Tuesday, January 2, 2024, 10:33:13
They'll probably offer him his job back.



Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, January 2, 2024, 11:08:38
Wayne Rooney sacked by Birmingham

I bet John Eustace is absolutely pissing himself
That job has Steve Coopers name written all over it.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, January 2, 2024, 11:35:59
That job has Steve Coopers name written all over it.

Cooper will get the Palace job within the next month.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, January 2, 2024, 11:40:44
Wayne Rooney sacked by Birmingham

I bet John Eustace is absolutely pissing himself

Cue the facebook group wondering if he'll come here.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Posh Red on Tuesday, January 2, 2024, 12:01:16
Wayne Rooney sacked by Birmingham

I bet John Eustace is absolutely pissing himself

It has turned into a worse appointment than when they replaced Rowett with Zola, and that was a total cock up


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Wednesday, January 3, 2024, 16:44:00
76 year old Lennie Lawrence to Hartlepool.

Yes, really.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, January 3, 2024, 17:03:29
Looks more likely of Luke Warm to Swansea now


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Wednesday, January 3, 2024, 20:11:09
He was a coach there before so knows the club


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, January 4, 2024, 13:37:47
Reports of Danny Cowley to Colchester


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, January 4, 2024, 13:43:41
Reports of Danny Cowley to Colchester
Rumours of a 2.30 appointment today.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Posh Red on Thursday, January 4, 2024, 13:44:31
Rumours of a 2.30 appointment today.

He's going to the dentist?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Thursday, January 4, 2024, 13:44:55
He was a coach there before so knows the club
Lives in Swansea too, so also a good move on that front!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, January 4, 2024, 13:56:01
He's going to the dentist?

Like it PR  :D


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: harrisonaw on Thursday, January 4, 2024, 14:04:19
Reports of Danny Cowley to Colchester

Wikipedia says that also..


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, January 4, 2024, 14:05:21
I wonder if that strange Cowley fan is posting on their forum even now?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Saxondale on Thursday, January 4, 2024, 14:42:15
Confirmed with immediate effect.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Berniman on Thursday, January 4, 2024, 15:18:06
Perfect time to come in and get your first 3 points handed to you on a plate.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, January 4, 2024, 15:18:44
Perfect time to come in and get your first 3 points handed to you on a plate.
My thoughts too.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Abrahammer on Thursday, January 4, 2024, 15:20:25
You need to be pretty well organised defensively against a Cowley team, especially from set pieces

So that bodes well!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Thursday, January 4, 2024, 19:13:52
Scouse James Corden new Salford manager


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Friday, January 5, 2024, 11:19:28
Scouse James Corden new Salford manager

Confirmed


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, January 5, 2024, 12:34:45
Confirmed
Good move for him TBH, he could easily do well there. But with their track record he could easily be sacked in 3 months too.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Friday, January 5, 2024, 14:33:01
Luke Williams confirmed at Swansea


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, January 5, 2024, 14:42:07
They’ll spit him out within a year


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, January 5, 2024, 14:44:14
Luke Williams confirmed at Swansea
Notts will have to appoint cleverly or they could well plummet down the league. Watch him raid them for their best players too. Massive job that in comparison to Notts County.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, January 5, 2024, 14:45:11
Garner’s available. That’ll finish them off.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: THE FLASH on Friday, January 5, 2024, 15:41:14
Notts will have to appoint cleverly or they could well plummet down the league. Watch him raid them for their best players too. Massive job that in comparison to Notts County.

We will pass them as we surge up the table with 'diamonds in the coal' signings!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Friday, January 5, 2024, 15:49:39
Fair play to Williams many couldn’t wait to see the back of him without understanding how poorly treated he was by Power & Sherwood.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: DiV on Friday, January 5, 2024, 15:51:41
Notts will have to appoint cleverly or they could well plummet down the league. Watch him raid them for their best players too. Massive job that in comparison to Notts County.

Sounds like a job for Jody Morris


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Freeloader on Friday, January 5, 2024, 16:28:43
Luke Williams confirmed at Swansea

Assisted by Ryan Harley, remember him?  Looked a playing genius at Exeter, looked far from it at Swindon.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: CMT82 on Friday, January 5, 2024, 16:43:58
Alan Sheehan stays as part of the coaching set-up.

Oldham, Luton, Southampton and Swansea coaching gigs all since January 2022. Good for him.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Friday, January 5, 2024, 17:14:54
Alan Sheehan stays as part of the coaching set-up.

Oldham, Luton, Southampton and Swansea coaching gigs all since January 2022. Good for him.

I liked Sheehan as a player, but fucking hell it pissed me right off when he went to Preston on trial before the season had even bloody finished!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Quagmire on Saturday, January 6, 2024, 18:41:21
Steve Morison new Sutton manager.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Power to people on Monday, January 8, 2024, 16:24:43
We will pass them as we surge up the table with 'diamonds in the coal' signings!

Its a big job, done well in non league getting Notts promoted, then has carried on with the momentum in L2 but jumping to the championship with a club that expects to be nearer the top than the bottom is going to be a big jump and big expectations, and will surely have to hit the ground running rather than be given breathing space to get used to championship.

Good luck to them though wil lbe watching that with interest


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: 4D on Thursday, January 11, 2024, 15:07:15
Phil Brown to Kidderminster


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Thursday, January 11, 2024, 15:36:37
Ex Swindon Town player thread :D


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Thursday, January 11, 2024, 15:51:33
Ex Swindon Town player thread :D
When did Phil Brown play for us? 🤔


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Thursday, January 11, 2024, 15:56:18
When did Phil Brown play for us? 🤔

I didn’t post it on the thread😁


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: THE FLASH on Thursday, January 11, 2024, 16:01:26
When did Phil Brown play for us? 🤔

Be fair, we'd probably take him at this moment if he can defend! :)


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Thursday, January 11, 2024, 16:05:31
Be fair, we'd probably take him at this moment if he can defend! :)

And even if he can't, he would fit in with the rest of them


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Thursday, January 18, 2024, 20:00:45
Troy Deeney sacked


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, January 18, 2024, 20:00:55
Stuart Maynard takes over from Luke Warm at Notts County


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: swindonmaniac on Thursday, January 18, 2024, 20:05:44
Troy Deeney sacked
After six games !!.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Thursday, January 18, 2024, 20:11:29
Troy Deeney sacked

He's also got a four match touchline ban so can't see him getting another managerial gig. Good. He's a right cunt


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, January 18, 2024, 20:13:54
His massive ego.
He also has a habit of slagging off his ex teammates, I can’t imagine his man management would be great.

He once told one of his clubs he wouldn’t sign a new contract until they got rid of the speed bumps on the drive into the training ground because it was ruining his sports car.
The blokes a fucking idiot.

I pretty much nailed it, didn’t I?  :D


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Thursday, January 18, 2024, 20:15:50
With that track record you have to question the wealthy idiot who employed him :D


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: swindonmaniac on Thursday, January 18, 2024, 20:24:13
With that track record you have to question the wealthy idiot who employed him :D
Dont shout too loud,  could be on Clems radar.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Robinz on Thursday, January 18, 2024, 20:38:51
More likely Micheal Flynn to go there.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Thursday, January 18, 2024, 20:47:31
Dont shout too loud,  could be on Clems radar.

Maybe or even Barton🤣


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, January 18, 2024, 20:50:39
More likely Micheal Flynn to go there.
Thats exactly what I thought!

Wouldn’t be surprised if there were discussions behind the scenes making it ‘a cost effective’ decision.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Batch on Thursday, January 18, 2024, 21:43:26
Deeney confirmed


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Whingy the poo on Thursday, January 18, 2024, 22:01:56

Wow  :eek:

Forest green are looking more of a basket case club than we are.
Can't see them coming back from this, National League beckons for them.  :bye:


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Thursday, January 18, 2024, 22:08:05

Deeney confirmed


Fuck me Batch, don't do that again. I read that as 'Deeney confirmed' ...at Town  :suicide:


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, January 18, 2024, 22:37:54
Flynn IS front runner for FGR according to their local rag.

Maybe he did walk knowing a job would soon be available. Gets us off the hook for compo, too.

https://stroudtimes.com/former-swindon-town-boss-now-a-front-runner-to-be-next-forest-green-manager/


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Thursday, January 18, 2024, 23:44:01
Fuck me Batch, don't do that again. I read that as 'Deeney confirmed' ...at Town  :suicide:

Me three.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Lemis on Friday, January 19, 2024, 07:58:12
Wow  :eek:

Forest green are looking more of a basket case club than we are.
Can't see them coming back from this, National League beckons for them.  :bye:

TBF, they probably now have a better chance at staying up now Deeney isn't at the helm, an absolutely mindboggling appointment when you're looking down the relegation barrel. Agree that they do absolutely look the basket case with the whole saga though and will be glad to see them relegated


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, January 19, 2024, 09:09:20
Flynn IS front runner for FGR according to their local rag.

Maybe he did walk knowing a job would soon be available. Gets us off the hook for compo, too.

https://stroudtimes.com/former-swindon-town-boss-now-a-front-runner-to-be-next-forest-green-manager/

I'm not entirely sure how it works but I believe Flynn and the club agreed a settlement (X months rather than the 2.5 years remaining on his contract) for him to part. Would he have to forgo that if he gets the FGR job so soon?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, January 19, 2024, 09:10:41
TBF, they probably now have a better chance at staying up now Deeney isn't at the helm, an absolutely mindboggling appointment when you're looking down the relegation barrel. Agree that they do absolutely look the basket case with the whole saga though and will be glad to see them relegated

Remember during the FGR away game at the start of the season when we were apparently looking to sign Deeney and the FGR comms were getting all giddy at the thought of them signing him. That was definitely one that DID get away, thankfully!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, January 19, 2024, 09:12:20
Reckon so. Isn’t it usual for jettisoned managers to have a period of gardening leave before taking up paid employment again.

It’s all rather convenient though, timing wise.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Friday, January 19, 2024, 09:33:03
I'm not entirely sure how it works but I believe Flynn and the club agreed a settlement (X months rather than the 2.5 years remaining on his contract) for him to part. Would he have to forgo that if he gets the FGR job so soon?

I believe so. Whatever the severance amount, it common practice to pay that monthly over a set period of time unless employment is secured in which case payments cease. I’d imagine that is written into the original contract. As are other penalties like disciplinary matters and so on.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, January 19, 2024, 09:36:58
I believe so. Whatever the severance amount, it common practice to pay that monthly over a set period of time unless employment is secured in which case payments cease. I’d imagine that is written into the original contract. As are other penalties like disciplinary matters and so on.

Excellent. That's a small financial win for us if it happens then.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, January 19, 2024, 09:43:32
I reckon he walked


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Friday, January 19, 2024, 10:13:31
I reckon he walked

It’ll come out eventually.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, January 19, 2024, 11:06:25
I reckon he walked
100% he walked, due to broken promises on budget/playing staff I would think.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Riddick on Friday, January 19, 2024, 11:20:52
I had been told he was 100% sacked, by someone normally with a decent knowledge of what happened.

Perhaps it was along the lines of

Clem 'Your sacked'
Flynn 'you cant sack me, i quit!'



Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: 4D on Friday, January 19, 2024, 11:27:17
Judging by wording in the transfer blog I'd agree with Riddick.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Costanza on Friday, January 19, 2024, 11:35:21
Would be a daft decision financially by Flynn, wouldn't it?

Also means there are possible accusations that can go Flynn and FGRs way if he got that job.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Hyabb17 on Friday, January 19, 2024, 12:36:50
Would be a daft decision financially by Flynn, wouldn't it?

Also means there are possible accusations that can go Flynn and FGRs way if he got that job.

Stroud Times has Flynn as favourite for their managers roll, wouldn't surprise me if that did happen.

Hatswell used to play for FGR & is a legend in those parts.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Costanza on Friday, January 19, 2024, 12:39:11
I remember his own goal very well.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Hyabb17 on Friday, January 19, 2024, 12:39:28
I remember his own goal very well.

A classic!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, January 20, 2024, 13:49:47
Notts County have appointed Wealdstone boss Stuart Maynard as their new head coach replacing Luke Warm Williams.

Maynard has only a 30% win ratio in his 150 games in charge of Wealdstone, which is only slightly better than Flynns 28% at Swindon.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Saturday, January 20, 2024, 13:58:51
Notts County have appointed Wealdstone boss Stuart Maynard as their new head coach replacing Luke Warm Williams.

Maynard has only a 30% win ratio in his 150 games in charge of Wealdstone, which is only slightly better than Flynns 28% at Swindon.

Well that is certainly odd.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Quagmire on Saturday, January 20, 2024, 14:03:01
Notts County have appointed Wealdstone boss Stuart Maynard as their new head coach replacing Luke Warm Williams.

Maynard has only a 30% win ratio in his 150 games in charge of Wealdstone, which is only slightly better than Flynns 28% at Swindon.

Very highly rated coach I believe.
He was only part-time at Wealdstone, be interesting to see how he gets on.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Saturday, January 20, 2024, 14:11:18
I wonder if the Wealdstone raider will follow County😁


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Sunday, January 21, 2024, 13:35:51
Matt Taylor sacked from Shrewsbury

Interviewed for the job when Flynn got appointed didnt he?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, January 22, 2024, 11:43:09
Matt Taylor sacked from Shrewsbury

Interviewed for the job when Flynn got appointed didnt he?
He was interviewed and highly tipped for the job, before Lindsey was appointed I think.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: TailBetweenLegs on Monday, January 22, 2024, 17:56:35
Has any manager we have all wanted in the last few years actually turned out to be any good


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: adje on Monday, January 22, 2024, 18:27:59
Has any manager we have all wanted in the last few years actually turned out to be any good
Can't think of a realistic one. I did want Michael Carrick tho🙂


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Monday, January 22, 2024, 22:20:25
Can't think of a realistic one. I did want Michael Carrick tho🙂

As a first job that would have been one that we may have been able to jib if we were in the Andrew Black era and not a total shit show. One of those outside chances that come off sometimes.

Under this and the last two owners, total pie in the sky.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, January 23, 2024, 11:23:09
Has any manager we have all wanted in the last few years actually turned out to be any good
I am not sure if any manager the fans wanted has even turned out to good elsewhere when appointed either.

Several wanted the Cowleys and they have ended up at Colchester, they would never be on my wanted list having watched how they set teams up previously TBH.

I wanted the ex Crewe manager David Artell who has ended up at Grimsby and so far has only won 2 games in his first 9 in charge.

I did hear Gareth Ainsworth is linked to us, good track record but not a passing style manager he prefers the longer game, loved by Wycombe fans and by QPR fans despite being in charge of a team with just 5 wins from his 28 games, fans saying he was let down by the woner (sound familiar?). His MO is often to sign older players which wouldnt fit into our ethos.

Probably well out of our price range anyway I would imagine and could very well still attract offers from much bigger clubs than us.

I think the results and how we play in the next 5 or 6 games will decide if Gunning will be given the job full time or that we will look to appoint AN Other before this season comes to a climax.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: fuzzy on Tuesday, January 23, 2024, 11:25:00
There is something slimey and greasey looking about Ainsworth that just makes me want to puke so- that would be a no from me.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, January 23, 2024, 11:32:58
There is something slimey and greasey looking about Ainsworth that just makes me want to puke so- that would be a no from me.
I am not a fan of how he looks either and not a fan of his style of kick it long and press the opposition defence, which QPR fans hated too, but he had a few good seasons at Wycombe previously on a very low budget.

I think hes well off our radar anyway TBH.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: fuzzy on Tuesday, January 23, 2024, 11:59:35
I am not a fan of how he looks either and not a fan of his style of kick it long and press the opposition defence, which QPR fans hated too, but he had a few good seasons at Wycombe previously on a very low budget.

I think hes well off our radar anyway TBH.

For me, that is another point against.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: THE FLASH on Tuesday, January 23, 2024, 12:28:37
Maynard at Nott County.

Just watched the first presser on BBC website.

Saying all the things that Lindsey didnt.......


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, January 24, 2024, 01:26:25
Appleton gone from Charlton


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, January 24, 2024, 08:49:42
Appleton gone from Charlton

Lewis Ward is the Jonah!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, January 24, 2024, 10:39:09
Appleton gone from Charlton
I never even realised he was their manager, one of the most over rated jobbing managers in history, similar to Karl Robinson.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, January 24, 2024, 14:18:31
Cotterill to be announced as FGR manager


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Wednesday, January 24, 2024, 14:56:43
Cotterill to be announced as FGR manager
He’ll keep them up. They’ve a squad far beyond their league position and I expect he’ll add 2/3 of his own before the deadline.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Friday, January 26, 2024, 10:40:46
Klopp leaving Liverpool at end of the season


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Nemo on Friday, January 26, 2024, 10:43:05
Klopp leaving Liverpool at end of the season

Oof, that's a big one. What a job he's done there.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Friday, January 26, 2024, 10:44:23
Says he has no energy left!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Quagmire on Friday, January 26, 2024, 10:45:28
What a manager.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, January 26, 2024, 11:06:51
When I lived in Luxembourg I watched a reasonable amount of German football and loved his Dortmund team. I've never really 'liked' Liverpool but I think he's been a breath of fresh air there for the most part. Big loss for them.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Riddick on Friday, January 26, 2024, 11:08:15
I guess Brighton are bracing themselves for the inevitable De Zerbi approach


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Friday, January 26, 2024, 11:12:02
Xabi Alonso maybe?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Riddick on Friday, January 26, 2024, 11:12:39
Xabi Alonso maybe?

A good shout, maybe too soon?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Posh Red on Friday, January 26, 2024, 11:16:02
When I lived in Luxembourg I watched a reasonable amount of German football and loved his Dortmund team. I've never really 'liked' Liverpool but I think he's been a breath of fresh air there for the most part. Big loss for them.

I was disappointed when he went to Liverpool because he seemed like a great bloke, and a top manager.

For a while he did come across that way at Liverpool, but his time there seemed to have turned him into a bit of a cock.

Hopefully some time away he can revert back to the top bloke he was at the start


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: 4D on Friday, January 26, 2024, 11:19:00
Klopp leaving Liverpool at end of the season

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:  excellent


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, January 26, 2024, 11:23:00
If Mad Gav does well . . .


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, January 26, 2024, 11:26:35
I was disappointed when he went to Liverpool because he seemed like a great bloke, and a top manager.

For a while he did come across that way at Liverpool, but his time there seemed to have turned him into a bit of a cock.

Hopefully some time away he can revert back to the top bloke he was at the start

I think you are right PR. The premier league does tend to bring out the worst in managers, look at what happened with Arsene Wenger. The same could be said of Arteta who is turning into a right mardy so and so. Maybe he looked at his behaviour and decided it wasn't worth it. Winning the league with Liverpool would be a great way for him to bow out. Technically they can still win 4 trophies I think (they won't)


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Abrahammer on Friday, January 26, 2024, 11:37:30
Nice guy, can totally understand why he wants a break after what is bloody long spell for a manager these days.

Alonso does seem a no brainer unless they massively fall away in the german title race


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, January 26, 2024, 11:45:02
Nice guy, can totally understand why he wants a break after what is bloody long spell for a manager these days.

Alonso does seem a no brainer unless they massively fall away in the german title race

Xabi Alonso/Steven Gerrard scouse golden ticket?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Batch on Friday, January 26, 2024, 11:56:10
Great stuff. Hopefully Liverpool start on a downward spiral now.

Klopp was good.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Friday, January 26, 2024, 18:41:36
Knowing the lucky scoucers they will prize Xabi Alonso from the Bundesliga and carry on like nothing has changed.

Klopp has been a class act tho and will be a big miss.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Super Hans on Friday, January 26, 2024, 18:50:20
Klopp is the only thing I don't mind about Liverpool. Shame he's leaving really but glad at the same time.

Even the stadium announcer annoys me at that club.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Friday, January 26, 2024, 20:38:52
Surprised it’s only just come out
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68110883


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, January 28, 2024, 16:13:19
Bloody hell, Flynn is on BBC!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, January 28, 2024, 16:18:20
Bloody hell, Flynn is on BBC!

Feel the Newport love❤️


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: adje on Sunday, January 28, 2024, 16:59:52
Surprised it’s only just come out
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68110883
Utter cunt


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, January 28, 2024, 17:01:18
Utter cunt

Spot on :clap:


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Sunday, January 28, 2024, 18:03:22
Xabi Alonso maybe?

Xavi I reckon. From Barcelona  :)


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, January 28, 2024, 18:04:11
Xavi I reckon. From Barcelona  :)

He hasn’t been a success as a manager!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Sunday, January 28, 2024, 18:07:19

He hasn’t been a success as a manager!


Hold the front page Jimbo...

In November 2021, Xavi was appointed as manager at his former club Barcelona. He won the 2022–23 Supercopa de España & the 2022–23 La Liga title in his first full season as the club's manager.

He also has an average of 2pts per game. Still, funny how one might measure success  :hmmm:


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, January 28, 2024, 18:08:42
Hold the front page Jimbo...

In November 2021, Xavi was appointed as manager at his former club Barcelona. He won the 2022–23 Supercopa de España & the 2022–23 La Liga title in his first full season as the club's manager.

He also has an average of 2pts per game. Still, funny how one might measure success  :hmmm:

Did Barcelona get rid of him too hastily then😁


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Sunday, January 28, 2024, 18:17:56

Did Barcelona get rid of him too hastily then😁


That's rather a bit Chinese Whispery JQ. They haven't got rid of him. It's a bit like the Klopp scenario. He's leaving at the end of the season. Maybe he could have sat on it and announced at the end of the season but it's a mark of respect to give your employers a chance to start finding a replacement AND also think about other options for himself.

In fact, both have made similar statements that the jobs are impacting their mental health. Xavi, feels as if he isn't valued too much in Spain {Barca and Real Madrid both seem to operate on a ''you must only win everything or you aren't a success'' policy} at present; effectively, his meter has topped out atm.

It's no shame in him actually openly expressing it either  :)


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, January 28, 2024, 18:19:52
That's rather a bit Chinese Whispery JQ. They haven't got rid of him. It's a bit like the Klopp scenario. He's leaving at the end of the season. Maybe he could have sat on it and announced at the end of the season but it's a mark of respect to give your employers a chance to start finding a replacement AND also think about other options for himself.

In fact, both have made similar statements that the jobs are impacting their mental health. Xavi, feels as if he isn't valued too much in Spain {Barca and Real Madrid both seem to operate on a ''you must only win everything or you aren't a success'' policy} at present; effectively, his meter has topped out atm.

It's no shame in him actually openly expressing it either  :)

Probably a,Gentleman’s agreement to keep things nice and tidy😁


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Sunday, January 28, 2024, 18:54:35

Probably a,Gentleman’s agreement to keep things nice and tidy😁



But back to the original point made. You stated he hadn't had success as a rookie manager. Yet as I pointed out - he won the Spain Supercopa and La Liga title last season - his first full season in charge. To boot a 2pts per game avg as well. Not too Xabi...sorry I mean Xavi.

Talking of Xabi {Alonso}...he's obviously doing quite well as a rookie too. But he hasn't won anything {yet} - although he boasts about a 1.8pts per game average at present. Not too Xavi...sorry, I meant Xabi  ;)

Both would be great options for Liverpool and they did pretty well with a former Spaniard manager - and the team has strong associations with Spanish players too {one obviously being Alonso}.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, January 28, 2024, 19:52:46
Who gives a fuck


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Sunday, January 28, 2024, 19:53:10
Who gives a fuck

This.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Sunday, January 28, 2024, 20:21:34

Who gives a fuck



This.


This is rich coming from two of the forums most devout versions of fucking MumsNet  :girlgiggle:

At least the conversation is about football managers and ones who possible could become manager of another club...thus keeping to the thread topic.

If you don't like it, fuck off to another thread - it's not like we were talking about our ''DNA'' or ''How hot it is in Greece''. That's what the Trivial freds are for. You can hardly lambast people for actually talking abut a relevant topic - in a thread for said topic of discussion.

Mmmm Topic. What's your two's favourite chocolate bar? That better?  :soapy tit wank:


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Sunday, January 28, 2024, 20:43:18
This is rich coming from two of the forums most devout versions of fucking MumsNet  :girlgiggle:

At least the conversation is about football managers and ones who possible could become manager of another club...thus keeping to the thread topic.

If you don't like it, fuck off to another thread - it's not like we were talking about our ''DNA'' or ''How hot it is in Greece''. That's what the Trivial freds are for. You can hardly lambast people for actually talking abut a relevant topic - in a thread for said topic of discussion.

Mmmm Topic. What's your two's favourite chocolate bar? That better?  :soapy tit wank:

I love you. You provide me with endless entertainment. The gift that keeps on giving. And there’s me thinking this was a forum of people’s opinion.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, January 28, 2024, 20:53:44
This is rich coming from two of the forums most devout versions of fucking MumsNet  :girlgiggle:

At least the conversation is about football managers and ones who possible could become manager of another club...thus keeping to the thread topic.

If you don't like it, fuck off to another thread - it's not like we were talking about our ''DNA'' or ''How hot it is in Greece''. That's what the Trivial freds are for. You can hardly lambast people for actually talking abut a relevant topic - in a thread for said topic of discussion.

Mmmm Topic. What's your two's favourite chocolate bar? That better?  :soapy tit wank:
Oh, do fuck off you inane twat. We have to put up with your incessant nonsense on a daily basis. You could do with a right slapping.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Boy About Town on Sunday, January 28, 2024, 21:49:14
Oh, do fuck off you inane twat. We have to put up with your incessant nonsense on a daily basis. You could do with a right slapping.

Ooh. Your hard.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, January 28, 2024, 22:31:46
Yeah, gone a bit overboard there and I’m sorry.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Sunday, January 28, 2024, 22:33:06
Audrey with. Troy Deeney moment! 😂😂😂


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Sunday, January 28, 2024, 23:15:43
Oh, do fuck off you inane twat. We have to put up with your incessant nonsense on a daily basis. You could do with a right slapping.

I refer you to my previous comment 😉


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: 4D on Monday, January 29, 2024, 00:55:41
Have you two not found the ignore button yet?







Hello?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Monday, January 29, 2024, 01:18:47
Exclusively discussing and talking about departing football managers and where they might go next, in a thread titled ''Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024:  they come and go'' is now labelled '...Incessant nonsense.' - who knew?  :doh:


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Robinz on Monday, January 29, 2024, 01:47:52
And some people suggest a possibility of a Fans owned club....

Fuck no...


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Abrahammer on Monday, January 29, 2024, 09:43:15
This is rich coming from two of the forums most devout versions of fucking MumsNet  :girlgiggle:

At least the conversation is about football managers and ones who possible could become manager of another club...thus keeping to the thread topic.

If you don't like it, fuck off to another thread - it's not like we were talking about our ''DNA'' or ''How hot it is in Greece''. That's what the Trivial freds are for. You can hardly lambast people for actually talking abut a relevant topic - in a thread for said topic of discussion.

Mmmm Topic. What's your two's favourite chocolate bar? That better?  :soapy tit wank:

On the money  :clap: :clap: :clap:


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, January 29, 2024, 16:01:50
Darren Moore sacked by Huddersfield Town after getting just 3 wins in 23 games.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, January 30, 2024, 11:48:56
Looks like STFC were the last nail in the Graham Alexander coffin as he seems to be getting sacked from Bradford.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, January 30, 2024, 11:50:37
Looks like STFC were the last nail in the Graham Alexander coffin as he seems to be getting sacked from Bradford.

If confirmed that's not good for any manager's CV to be sacked twice in one season!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, January 30, 2024, 11:53:29
Yet, clubs still employ them


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, January 30, 2024, 18:51:30
I see Ryan whatshisname has had to issue a grovelling apology to Graham Alexander and Bradford City about their report about him being sacked.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Exiled Bob on Tuesday, January 30, 2024, 20:20:30
He's fucking obsessed with Swindon. I've noticed that.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, January 31, 2024, 08:41:45
Yet, clubs still employ them

I don't really understand the Bradford board mindset. They keep employing these dour dinosaur managers that play crap, defensive boring football. If I'm in charge of Bradford, I see the big stadium and large crowds and I bring in an exciting up and coming coach who plays dynamic attacking stuff. Their owners are stuck in the dark ages.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, January 31, 2024, 08:53:11
He's fucking obsessed with Swindon. I've noticed that.

He was correct about this transfer window issues though to be fair. He does seem to have a source or sources within the club, I guess that's why he does a lot of reporting on us, to aid traffic to his website or whatever.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, January 31, 2024, 08:54:00
Also tons of our fans reply to all his posts asking him for Swindon news, so it's not exactly like the obsession is unrequited.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, January 31, 2024, 09:03:10
Also tons of our fans reply to all his posts asking him for Swindon news, so it's not exactly like the obsession is unrequited.

Especially now Alan Nixon doesn't appear to be fed information quite so much, if at all.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, January 31, 2024, 10:03:15
Also tons of our fans reply to all his posts asking him for Swindon news, so it's not exactly like the obsession is unrequited.
On his Facebook page he has had to put this.

Quote
Thanks for visiting Swindon fans please stop sharing my profile it's a bit odd.

I know nothing of him other than I know one of his old school teachers in Lincoln and he is a mutual friend.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, January 31, 2024, 10:14:51
I don't really understand the Bradford board mindset. They keep employing these dour dinosaur managers that play crap, defensive boring football. If I'm in charge of Bradford, I see the big stadium and large crowds and I bring in an exciting up and coming coach who plays dynamic attacking stuff. Their owners are stuck in the dark ages.

I mean that’s just as likely to go horribly wrong isn’t it…


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, January 31, 2024, 10:26:30
I mean that’s just as likely to go horribly wrong isn’t it…

Fair. But after years of trying the same thing over and over again, trying something different, or fresh is surely worth a go. Unless their ambition is to not get relegated and likely be stuck in league 2 for ages.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, January 31, 2024, 10:34:11
Fair. But after years of trying the same thing over and over again, trying something different, or fresh is surely worth a go. Unless their ambition is to not get relegated and likely be stuck in league 2 for ages.
Part of the issue is that they do have a huge fanbase compared to pretty much any team in L2 and if they appointed a young untested coach with zero credentials their fans would come out and say "why didnt we go for someone experienced?".


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Friday, February 2, 2024, 19:03:42
Nathan Jones being appointed Charlton manager


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Friday, February 2, 2024, 19:31:25
He won’t be there that long :D


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, February 3, 2024, 10:28:01
Nathan Jones being appointed Charlton manager
Good move, he did great at Luton, a bit less elsewhere but a good manager IMO.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, February 5, 2024, 11:52:25
Neil Warnock gets the Aberdeen job.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, February 5, 2024, 11:59:33
Neil Warnock gets the Aberdeen job.
Took him 19 attempts and 43 years to finally get his first Jockenese job!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Nemo on Monday, February 5, 2024, 12:00:24
That's a fucking long way from Cornwall


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, February 5, 2024, 12:06:06
That's a fucking long way from Cornwall

I *think* you can fly Newquay to Abderdeen. But yes, it's a long old poke that!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Nemo on Monday, February 5, 2024, 12:11:01
I *think* you can fly Newquay to Abderdeen. But yes, it's a long old poke that!

Suddenly there is nothing I want more than a video of Neil speaking to Logan air customer services


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, February 5, 2024, 21:05:00
Vale fire Crosby


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: MarkyTee on Tuesday, February 6, 2024, 07:40:41
Vale fire Crosby

Isnt flitcroft DOF there as well?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Tuesday, February 6, 2024, 08:16:30
Isnt flitcroft DOF there as well?

Correct

Their fans hate him


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Tuesday, February 6, 2024, 08:43:53
Their fans hate everyone don't they?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, February 6, 2024, 08:47:09
Both of them?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, February 6, 2024, 08:52:02
I think there are cracks starting to appear between owners and fans. Seemingly they have done quite a lot of work off the pitch, but they are getting antsy as struggling in league 1 isn't appealing. I think their owners are big Vale fans, but don't really have the resources to get them very far.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: adje on Tuesday, February 6, 2024, 09:00:50
God forbid that twat Williams doesn't buy them. Wouldn't be able to stand that particular media circus


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, February 6, 2024, 09:20:30
God forbid that twat toWilliams doesn't buy them. Wouldn't be able to stand that particular media circus

Robbie Williams/Phil Taylor 'dream team'


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, February 6, 2024, 10:51:56
Robbie Williams/Phil Taylor 'dream team'
Its a fairytale.....


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, February 6, 2024, 13:13:23
Robbie Williams/Phil Taylor 'dream team'

Celebrity Bullseye?


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, February 6, 2024, 13:57:24
Celebrity Bullseye?

Let's look at what you could have won  ;D


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, February 6, 2024, 14:09:43
Robbie Williams/Phil Taylor 'dream team'
I suppose in his defence - Ryan reynolds is at least a likeable person, something Williams doesnt have on his side.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, February 6, 2024, 14:22:59
Celebrity Bullseye?

More like Celebrity Bullshit.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Tuesday, February 6, 2024, 16:08:35
I suppose in his defence - Ryan reynolds is at least a likeable person, something Williams doesnt have on his side.

Exuding likeability doesn't seem to apply to anybody originating from Burslem.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, February 7, 2024, 08:59:22
Exuding likeability doesn't seem to apply to anybody originating from Burslem.
Unfortunately true sir.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, February 7, 2024, 16:47:24
https://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk/sport/24104664.ben-garner-explains-get-best-harry-mckirdy/

Thanks Ben  ::)


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Wednesday, February 7, 2024, 17:34:06
https://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk/sport/24104664.ben-garner-explains-get-best-harry-mckirdy/

Thanks Ben  ::)

Is Ben getting a foot back in the door😁


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, February 7, 2024, 17:54:16
The baldy fuckwit can fuck right off.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Thursday, February 8, 2024, 15:05:27
A decent co-commentator last week away at Newport.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Freeloader on Thursday, February 8, 2024, 17:40:49
A decent co-commentator last week away at Newport.

A great listen on comms, analysis was spot on.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Thursday, February 8, 2024, 19:39:00
A great listen on comms, analysis was spot on.

I thoroughly enjoyed his analysis and certainly knew what he was talking about.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Thursday, February 8, 2024, 21:07:53
I thoroughly enjoyed his analysis and certainly knew what he was talking about.
I would suggest he sticks to that then...


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Thursday, February 8, 2024, 21:09:20
I would suggest he sticks to that then...

I’m not one for knocking the past but he sounded informative on the radio.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, February 9, 2024, 09:59:55
Lot of good that did him at Charlton and Colchester. Talk the talk - can’t walk the walk.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Friday, February 9, 2024, 15:08:45
Agree, he talks well, very concise and detailed but putting it into practice is another thing.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: 4D on Friday, February 9, 2024, 15:29:01
The baldy fuckwit can fuck right off.

Are you that gas fan?  :D


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Friday, February 9, 2024, 15:33:52
Anger management😁


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, February 9, 2024, 21:48:21
New Charlton manager, Nathan Jones, has employed Paul Hart as his assistant.

Surely it can’t be THAT Paul Hart


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Quagmire on Friday, February 9, 2024, 21:57:07
New Charlton manager, Nathan Jones, has employed Paul Hart as his assistant.

Surely it can’t be THAT Paul Hart

It is, he had him on his coaching team at Luton and Stoke too.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, February 13, 2024, 15:08:17
Darren Moore gets the Port Vale job. 5 and a half year contract is pretty spicy.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, February 13, 2024, 15:17:38
Darren Moore gets the Port Vale job. 5 and a half year contract is pretty spicy.
Thats a fucking huge length for a manager contract, he seems to be a decent manager though.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, February 13, 2024, 15:24:38
Nothing against him but I hope he gets them relegated  :D


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, February 13, 2024, 15:26:07
Nothing against him but I hope he gets them relegated  :D
Oh I agree totally on that.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, February 13, 2024, 15:28:25
They seem pleased, he didn't have much joy at Udders though  :hmmm:


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: swindonmaniac on Tuesday, February 13, 2024, 15:38:39
Yes he did, he got a payoff.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, February 19, 2024, 15:27:29
Michael Beale gone from Sunderland... bloody hell...


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Monday, February 19, 2024, 16:44:38
Roy Hodgson steps down


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: DiV on Monday, February 19, 2024, 16:49:15
Steve Cooper I’d imagine


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Monday, February 19, 2024, 16:53:16
Michael Beale gone from Sunderland... bloody hell...

He was hated up there!

Probably end up being Gerrards bitch in Saudi i would imagine


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, February 19, 2024, 16:55:10
I think Oliver Glasner, the former Eintracht Frankfurt manager has been lined up.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Monday, February 19, 2024, 17:11:06

I think Oliver Glasner, the former Eintracht Frankfurt manager has been lined up.


Tbh BO, I thought you was in the running for the job!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Wednesday, February 21, 2024, 11:22:24
Neil Harris going back to Millwall


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, February 21, 2024, 11:36:22
Neil Harris going back to Millwall
Horrible club I hope he gets them relegated.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, February 21, 2024, 22:00:16
Horrible club I hope he gets them relegated.

Horrible little racist prick as well, is Harris


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Nemo on Sunday, March 3, 2024, 12:52:23
Accrington sack John Coleman after 10 years. Didn't see that one coming, we play them Tuesday week

Mark Cooper was Town manager when he was appointed. Lot of water under the bridge since then! Include caretaker managers and we've changed manager eighteen times.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Monday, March 4, 2024, 13:37:12
John Doolan new Accrington manager

Garry Monk new Cambridge manager


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, March 4, 2024, 14:09:36
John Doolan new Accrington manager
Interim manager, they are going the same way as us and waiting before installing the new manager.

That really is penny pinching too like us, appoint a member of the current coaching staff to save on new wages. I doubt he will change much from when the long serving Coleman as hes been working alongside him for 7 seasons.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: THE FLASH on Monday, March 4, 2024, 14:38:19
I see some comments on FB that many felt it was wrong that Coleman had gone and should of waited until the end of the season.

One Accies fan disagreed , saying that it would be better for the new Manager to have a head start for next season....his arguement blown away with an interim being appointed!


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: CMT82 on Monday, March 4, 2024, 15:01:30
John Doolan new Accrington manager

Garry Monk new Cambridge manager

Barry Corr had been interim, unsure if he's staying on.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, March 4, 2024, 15:22:46
Garry Monk new Cambridge manager
Ironic that a Monk takes over at the Abbey Stadium.


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: tans on Wednesday, April 17, 2024, 11:43:41
Steve Evans quits Stevenage to go to Rotherham



Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, April 17, 2024, 11:58:43
Steve Evans quits Stevenage to go to Rotherham
Not gone down too well in Rotherham!

Way bigger budget than he has at Stevenage but they always say "dont go back".


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, April 17, 2024, 12:30:54
STFC Women lose their second manager in seven months:

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2024/april/richard-wood-to-depart-swindon-town-women


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: TailBetweenLegs on Wednesday, April 17, 2024, 12:34:28
Opens up the door for Gunning to take over


Title: Re: Managerial Merry-go-round 2023-2024: they come and go
Post by: iParadise on Wednesday, April 17, 2024, 13:16:12
Steve Evans quits Stevenage to go to Rotherham



Mad that Leam Richardson only had an 8% win record. Must have been painful for the Rotherham fans. He was good at Wigan, wasn’t he?