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Title: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: 4D on Monday, September 12, 2022, 07:24:31
We have a game tomorrow night, I think it will be our lowest crowd for a couple of years judging by the ticket site. Shame really.
Sutton only lost 2 so far this season but they haven't won away on the road.........yet.

Swindon 0-2 Sutton att: 6,711 (away 92)


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Monday, September 12, 2022, 07:41:56
Swindon 1 Sutton 1 Att: 7,590  (away 88)


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Pericardinho on Monday, September 12, 2022, 07:43:10
The honeymoon period is well and truly over.

Things could turn toxic with a loss.

The 5-6k hardcore fans may again become the norm.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Monday, September 12, 2022, 07:57:15
The honeymoon period is well and truly over.

Things could turn toxic with a loss.

The 5-6k hardcore fans may again become the norm.

Give it a fucking rest will you


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, September 12, 2022, 08:01:27
It is great we have a game midweek after the disappointment of no weekend games.

As for Sutton, I think everyone knows what you get with them. Fairly no nonsense football, get the ball forward quickly etc. I do think they have some decent footballers as well so they aren't just going to be long ball merchants hoping for the best. We're going to have to play pretty well to get a result.

I think it's going to be another draw. 1-1


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: adje on Monday, September 12, 2022, 08:19:44
We can do these. 2-0


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat
Post by: Batch on Monday, September 12, 2022, 08:43:05
EFL confirm games are on from 13th


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Pericardinho on Monday, September 12, 2022, 08:49:13
Give it a fucking rest will you

Things could turn quite toxic with a loss. True or false?

If things continue the way they are results wise, our crowds could become similar to that of the power era. Just my opinion. No need to be upset.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, September 12, 2022, 09:07:23
0-0 in front of 7,489 with 95 Suttoners there.

Khan MotM.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: theakston2k on Monday, September 12, 2022, 09:25:00
He’s had over a week on the training ground now so all excuses are gone. Anything less than a win will be a poor result.

Lindsey needs to start winning games, that’s all that matters to the majority of supporters. If we don’t win tomorrow he’s going to find it increasingly difficult to convince people that he is the right man for the job.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: DMC on Monday, September 12, 2022, 09:33:21
He’s had over a week on the training ground now so all excuses are gone. Anything less than a win will be a poor result.

Lindsey needs to start winning games, that’s all that matters to the majority of supporters. If we don’t win tomorrow he’s going to find it increasingly difficult to convince people that he is the right man for the job.
But you've been so supportive until now


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: theakston2k on Monday, September 12, 2022, 10:33:51
But you've been so supportive until now
Support is earned not a given, especially if you already don’t see him as the right person for the job. There’s been very little to support, his reign started off shambolic and very little has improved to date.

Tomorrow needs to see a significant improvement, if there isn’t after he’s had a week on the training ground to get his ideas across then it’s not a great sign.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: adje on Monday, September 12, 2022, 10:37:30
"support is earned" an interesting concept. Not sure how my support of STFC was "earned". My dad took me when I was 10 and that was it!


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, September 12, 2022, 10:43:00
"support is earned" an interesting concept. Not sure how my support of STFC was "earned". My dad took me when I was 10 and that was it!
Yes same for me, they never earned my support for the first 4 years after my dad took me as an 8 year old in 74, around 78 they started earning my support and TBH have rarely earned it since :)


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Monday, September 12, 2022, 10:44:32
Same here, uncle first took me in 1973 and never looked back.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: DMC on Monday, September 12, 2022, 10:45:04
Support is earned not a given, especially if you already don’t see him as the right person for the job. There’s been very little to support, his reign started off shambolic and very little has improved to date.

Tomorrow needs to see a significant improvement, if there isn’t after he’s had a week on the training ground to get his ideas across then it’s not a great sign.
This is what the bloke is up against. What a weird way to look at it, how are you even going to Swindon Town matches with that thought process?  


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Nemo on Monday, September 12, 2022, 11:00:02
If support was earned the County Ground would be a wasteland!


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Monday, September 12, 2022, 11:14:51
Relentless misery.

😂⚽️


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, September 12, 2022, 11:29:02
Relentless misery.

😂⚽️
In the words of "Porridge".

Harry Grout: "Now we need someone reliable as trainer."

Fletcher: Don't look at me. I've grown disenchanted with the game. Forty years of supporting Swindon does that for a man.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: RobertT on Monday, September 12, 2022, 11:41:01
This is what the bloke is up against. What a weird way to look at it, how are you even going to Swindon Town matches with that thought process? 

I think support for the club is a very different beast than support for those individuals who pass through the club from time to time.  The former is, as DV points out, like a drug addiction.  The latter is far more reasoned, mostly.

I don't see it turning toxic if we lose this, but it wouldn't be too much longer.  I think there still remains quite a bit of goodwill and wanting for things to be good.  Also, while Lindsey may not have been a name, he also wasn't known, so people will give those types a bit longer to prove themselves.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Monday, September 12, 2022, 11:44:17
People remembering their first games is always an interesting one for me, as I've no idea. I had even always wrongly assumed Reading at Elm Park was my first away game before being told I was taken to Fratton Park very young before that.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: RobertT on Monday, September 12, 2022, 11:47:08
Things could turn quite toxic with a loss. True or false?

If things continue the way they are results wise, our crowds could become similar to that of the power era. Just my opinion. No need to be upset.

Crowds under Power were not in the 5-6k range on average, go have to go back to the shitty days of Diamandis for sub 6k crowds on average.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, September 12, 2022, 11:47:32
I think support for the club is a very different beast than support for those individuals who pass through the club from time to time.  The former is, as DV points out, like a drug addiction.  The latter is far more reasoned, mostly.

I don't see it turning toxic if we lose this, but it wouldn't be too much longer.  I think there still remains quite a bit of goodwill and wanting for things to be good.  Also, while Lindsey may not have been a name, he also wasn't known, so people will give those types a bit longer to prove themselves.

I'd love for you to be right, but whilst the goodwill for SL might not necessarily be personal, the fact that he is perceived as the cheapo option really does work against him and if he doesn't hit the ground running - which he hasn't - then a malaise sets in very quickly. There were already chants of Lindsey out at Gillingham, they will grow louder I reckon if we don't win tomorrow, or at least show a relatively good performance a la signs we are moving in the right direction.   


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: theakston2k on Monday, September 12, 2022, 11:57:53
This is what the bloke is up against. What a weird way to look at it, how are you even going to Swindon Town matches with that thought process?  
What’s weird about it? I support the STFC not an individual, we are in L2 FFS there should be a minimum expectation on the shoulders of a manager and so far Lindsey hasn’t met that for me. I’m not going to blindly support someone who I believe so far has done a poor job.

Also, I don’t think its weird to expect a massive improvement after he’s had over a week on the training ground to get his way of playing drilled into the players. If this uninterrupted time on the training ground doesn’t allow him to show a significant improvement then what actually will?


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat
Post by: Batch on Monday, September 12, 2022, 11:59:15
I'm thinking maybe the Queen/Saturdays postponement has given some breathing space

sounds silly, but people have had other things to talk about. life hasn't been normal really

temporary I'm sure.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: DMC on Monday, September 12, 2022, 12:12:32
What’s weird about it? I support the STFC not an individual, we are in L2 FFS there should be a minimum expectation on the shoulders of a manager and so far Lindsey hasn’t met that for me. I’m not going to blindly support someone who I believe so far has done a poor job.

Also, I don’t think its weird to expect a massive improvement after he’s had over a week on the training ground to get his way of playing drilled into the players. If this uninterrupted time on the training ground doesn’t allow him to show a significant improvement then what actually will?
I find it weird that by your logic you refuse to support a coach until he has proved himself to you. I find that weird


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: 4D on Monday, September 12, 2022, 12:21:32
You only sing when you're winning.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: RobertT on Monday, September 12, 2022, 12:42:42
I find it weird that by your logic you refuse to support a coach until he has proved himself to you. I find that weird

Now I find that weird.  I never liked King and hated Sheridan.  I can't imagine supporting either, but STFC is completely different, no matter how badly they treat me.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: DMC on Monday, September 12, 2022, 12:47:58
Now I find that weird.  I never liked King and hated Sheridan.  I can't imagine supporting either, but STFC is completely different, no matter how badly they treat me.
I wasn't on about the club though, i find it crazy that someone will not want to support the manager when we appoint one. I understand a manager losing the support of fans but to not even ever have it is weird


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: theakston2k on Monday, September 12, 2022, 13:38:38
I wasn't on about the club though, i find it crazy that someone will not want to support the manager when we appoint one. I understand a manager losing the support of fans but to not even ever have it is weird
Because I didn’t think he is the right person to start with and so far he’s just reinforced my view that he’s not up to it. How can you support someone if you don’t believe in them, it’s just fake.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Batch on Monday, September 12, 2022, 13:56:59
Its just a starting position isn't it?

Some start with a blank page.
Some start with a pre-judgement.

At the end of a day, for most people its ultimately the results that matter. Win a lot or lose a lot and you get to the same place regardless of starting position.

There are always some "told you so" and some "told you to wait and see".


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Monday, September 12, 2022, 14:12:29
A free week should have been good for helping to get the deadline day arrivals up to speed.

Bear in mind that the prep would have been focused on Newport.
Some quick thinking on Friday might have seen a shift of emphasis to dealing with Sutton. That's the hope.

Felt that the approach against Gillingham was the first real step backwards since Harrogate.
Still a learning curve for SL & hopefully he has the backing & confidence to manage without fear.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, September 12, 2022, 14:15:36
There are always some "told you so" and some "told you to wait and see".
Thats human nature, some fans are half full glasses, some half empty glasses.

For me I didn't want Lindsey I thought he was a weak appointment but I am willing to give him time as I feel this is way too early to be sacking him, but the football has been way less than inspiring so far. There seems a poor use of subs and the tactics, at times, seems almost non existant.

I do see improvements though but probably not fast enough for many fans.

I guess I am just more patient than most and try to see the best and try to not dwell so much on the poorer aspects.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: DiV on Monday, September 12, 2022, 14:33:31
Thats human nature, some fans are half full glasses, some half empty glasses.

For me I didn't want Lindsey I thought he was a weak appointment but I am willing to give him time as I feel this is way too early to be sacking him, but the football has been way less than inspiring so far. There seems a poor use of subs and the tactics, at times, seems almost non existant.

I do see improvements though but probably not fast enough for many fans.

I guess I am just more patient than most and try to see the best and try to not dwell so much on the poorer aspects.

Transfer windows that slam shut a month into the season do not help with this.

A manager can set up a team to play a certain way with certain players in certain position throughout pre season and the first month of the season then all of a sudden lose players & get new players last minute.

Like you said, we were making (slow) progress but then sold McKirdy and bought in Jephcott who is a completely different player that probably requires a different game plan/style


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, September 12, 2022, 14:38:49
Have we got a game plan/style?

If so, I’m fucked if I can tell what it is.

I’ve seen enough. Taxi for Lindsey!


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, September 12, 2022, 14:41:38
Indeed, the shorter pre season wasn't enough game time to show that the initial 352/361 etc was not going to work and Hutton is not capable of playing in a back 4 (so far) meaning we had to invest in a left back and right back what with Devine being injured as much as Lyden.

Personally I think he should have bought in players initially that could play both wingback and fullback roles, like Hunt could who was released.

Also its been glaringly obvious that Adeloye is not going to be good enough straight out the blocks so we should really have got a striker in before deadline day (if we could) rather than waiting to see if Harry was going or staying (which should have been irrelivant) as we should have added to the squad anyway, unless we were running close to the budget limits until Harry left.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Monday, September 12, 2022, 14:42:21
Relentless misery.

😂⚽️

Theatre of Dispair.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Monday, September 12, 2022, 14:59:14
Theatre of the Absurd at times.

Still more good than bad though in approaching 45 years of support that was never earned.
I'll take that.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Monday, September 12, 2022, 17:06:51
Theatre of the Absurd at times.

Still more good than bad though in approaching 45 years of support that was never earned.
I'll take that.

Yeah, fancy being a Man U fan during the Ferguson era, trophy after trophy must have been so bloody tedious. I mean the only thing to piss off the fans was the Glaziers buying the club. I mean in recent times we must have had more owners than they won those trophies.


Title: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat
Post by: Batch on Monday, September 12, 2022, 19:34:47
the ref last year courtesy Ryan Whelan..


DARREN HANDLEY
Last season he reffed 16 games
4 L1 - 12 L2
Gave out 7 Red Cards and 68 Yellows
Average 0.4375 Reds and 4.25 Yellows

I'm all competitions we have the second worst disciplinary record behind Newport, but we have a game in hand


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Monday, September 12, 2022, 19:38:44
50,000 post congratulations sir :clap:


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat
Post by: Batch on Monday, September 12, 2022, 20:02:10
a badge of dishonour


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Monday, September 12, 2022, 20:03:21
a badge of dishonour


Dedication🤣


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: JBZ on Monday, September 12, 2022, 20:39:50
0-0

Att: 6,666

MoM: Brynn

Ref rating: 7

STFC yellow cards: Williams, MacDonald, Khan

TEF meltdown to commence in the 75th minute


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 04:55:18
I’m out tonight so I’ll miss it live.

Just have to decide whether to keep up with events or just wait til the full game is available on iFollow and ‘treat’ myself, bereft of knowledge of the, no doubt, boring spectacle.

Beer will decide for me.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 07:28:49
Dunno if I can be arsed tonight  ::)


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Moss on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 07:35:42
They say the opposite of love is indifference. I fear I am heading down that road.

I am more interested in My Fantasy Draft team than I am STFC at the moment.

A season of mediocracy in League 2 is not getting my juices flowing anymore I'm afraid.   :no:


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: adje on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 07:49:19
They say the opposite of love is indifference. I fear I am heading down that road.

I am more interested in My Fantasy Draft team than I am STFC at the moment.

A season of mediocracy in League 2 is not getting my juices flowing anymore I'm afraid.   :no:
Dangerous game,replacing reality with fantasy.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Cheltred on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 13:09:25
They say the opposite of love is indifference. I fear I am heading down that road.

I am more interested in My Fantasy Draft team than I am STFC at the moment.

A season of mediocracy in League 2 is not getting my juices flowing anymore I'm afraid.   :no:
How do you know it's going to be a season of mediocrity? It's still early. It could, of course, be something far worse than that😁


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: ibelieveinmrreeves on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 16:14:31
They say the opposite of love is indifference. I fear I am heading down that road.

I am more interested in My Fantasy Draft team than I am STFC at the moment.

A season of mediocracy in League 2 is not getting my juices flowing anymore I'm afraid.   :no:

Good. Bye.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 16:28:57
How do you know it's going to be a season of mediocrity? It's still early. It could, of course, be something far worse than that😁

You don't get to follow the Town for 48 years with that sort of attitude😡


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 16:39:50
A win would be grand.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 16:45:31
A win would be grand.

£21.50 in my case.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 16:53:14
A win would be grand.
A sloppy 1-0 with a late goal will suffice for me.

Have to watch out for the pacey Josh Neuville a loan target for Swindon in the Summer from Luton, very quick, pretty good on the ground, plays as a wide striker or lone striker, was at Yeovil ast season and impressed me a couple of times I saw him play.

I see Sutton fans think its unlikely that Ward will be number 1 at Sutton this season so probably won't be in goal today.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 16:53:35
Ah bollocks, on my way.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 17:01:17
Ah bollocks, on my way.
Home by half time if not going well.....


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 17:04:01
CGH  ;)


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 17:09:14
Swindon v Sutton

P3 W3 D0 L0 F6 A3.

Every game vs Sutton that the Town have played has ended 2-1 to Swindon.

Lets keep that up today.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 17:13:13
I have to say that although I’m prepared to give Mr. Lyndsey more time than most it, would seem to me that today is kind of a must win game. Should we not win I hope there are no ‘the lads are/were fatigued’ type excuses.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 17:14:02
At least he can't use the pitch is too dry!


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 17:16:18
I have to say that although I’m prepared to give Mr. Lyndsey more time than most it, would seem to me that today is kind of a must win game. Should we not win I hope there are no ‘the lads are/were fatigued’ type excuses.
I fear that even if we win 5-0 tonight that may not be enough for some fans who have already made their mind up on SL and would say we were lucky to not lose.

Not that we will win by 5 goals, but I think many fans have already tarred him in preparation no matter what happens.

I hope he can change our fortunes round soon.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 17:18:52
I fear that even if we win 5-0 tonight that may not be enough for some fans who have already made their mind up on SL and would say we were lucky to not lose.

Not that we will win by 5 goals, but I think many fans have already tarred him in preparation no matter what happens.

I hope he can change our fortunes round soon.

Me too. I’m ambivalent on who has the managers hot seat as long as the footy is decent and the results favourable.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 17:19:12
Me too. I’m ambivalent on who has the managers hot seat as long as the footy is decent and the results favourable.
100%.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: molepar on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 17:21:25
I would love for SL to succeed. I feel that as many have said the conception of him being the budget option is widespread and quite difficult for the club to argue against. For those who are into alternative depressing spectacles, apparently some cinema chains are showing the Queen’s funeral live.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 17:24:27
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FcjWItCXkAIOU20?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 17:26:08
Khan sub🤔


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 17:26:27
Ward not even on the bench for Sutton.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 17:28:18
Wondering if he's injured as he wasn't when they played a week Saturday ago.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 17:30:51
Probable formation -

                    Brynn
Lavinier  Macdonald    Clayton   Blake-Tracey
       Gladwin       Reed         Darcy     
 Shade             Jephcott          Williams

or

                    Brynn
Lavinier  Macdonald    Clayton   Blake-Tracey
Darcy        Gladwin       Reed           Williams
             Shade             Jephcott         


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 17:32:33
Wondering if he's injured as he wasn't when they played a week Saturday ago.
The Adver suggested he may start today, so either hes injured or has to prove himself to the manager before he is picked even for the bench.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 17:34:28
Expecting your first lineup PV. Harsh on Wakeling imho but hope Shade shows a bit more of what he did in the cup game tonight


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 17:34:42
Strange move then if he's not going to be number 1 or 2


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 17:43:18
Expecting your first lineup PV. Harsh on Wakeling imho but hope Shade shows a bit more of what he did in the cup game tonight
I agree, I would also have started Khan who I think has been solid probably for Gladwin or Williams.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 17:43:52
Probable formation -

                    Brynn
Lavinier  Macdonald    Clayton   Blake-Tracey
       Gladwin       Reed         Darcy    
 Shade             Jephcott          Williams

or

                    Brynn
Lavinier  Macdonald    Clayton   Blake-Tracey
Darcy        Gladwin       Reed           Williams
             Shade             Jephcott        

Hawes suggestion it will be option1 Darcy for Khan in midfield
Steve Hale on comms this evening zzzzz


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 17:57:45
Sutton are a big very strong bullying side, they break quick and like to niggle and foul and wind up the ref and the opposition as they did last season. They will be very hard to break down with a packed defence and midfield and a couple of big quick wide strikers.

So Swindon havent lost a midweek league game in the last 9 with 5 wins and 4 draws.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 17:58:32
I do like the 2 pint glasses in the CGH. Saves queueing


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 17:59:31
Steve Hale on comms this evening zzzzz
Hale breaks the game down well and speaks ok, far better than Dave Hockaday!


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:00:24
Hale breaks the game down well and speaks ok, far better than Dave Hockaday!

Agreed but where's your mate!


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:01:42
Agreed but where's your mate!
He never does home games, only in lockdown :)


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:03:33
He never does home games, only in lockdown :)

Is Vic Morgan from Swindon even though he lives in Devon as I've known of him since the early 80's


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:05:50
Quite excited to see Roberts off the bench. Good feeling about him (although I have a good feeling about every signing we make from non-league).


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:11:57
Is Vic Morgan from Swindon even though he lives in Devon as I've known of him since the early 80's
Malmesbury and Swindon originally.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:12:59
Quite excited to see Roberts off the bench. Good feeling about him (although I have a good feeling about every signing we make from non-league).
Ditto, I love the mystique about them, we have had loads down the years that were great, as well as many that werent!


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:13:23
Malmesbury and Swindon originally.

Cheers, decent guy and a shame he isn't involved on the radio anymore.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:16:31
Still think that starting XI goes into a 4231 better than a 433


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:19:24
Still think that starting XI goes into a 4231 better than a 433
The one we arent too sure on really is Shade, if hes playing wide or as a free role behind Jephcott.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:20:49
Ah yes, I see Rockin' Robin is out to pay his respects.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:23:32
Perfectly respected minute silence by all.



Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: oxonrobin on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:23:35
Just logged in and was cursing the ifollow app for the sound not working... during the minutes silence  :eek:


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: adje on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:24:17
Everyone shouting beforehand about Wakeling and Jephcott. Seems strange to me they're not both starting


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:26:14
Just logged in and was cursing the ifollow app for the sound not working... during the minutes silence  :eek:
:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:26:53
Bastarding iFollow already kicked me out twice and we haven't kicked off yet.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:28:25
Bastarding iFollow already kicked me out twice and we haven't kicked off yet.

Not trying to log in as Julie Watts, are ya?


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:29:25
Huge chance to Jephcott.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:29:29
Jephcott so close from 5 yards, good save.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:29:57
2nd corner for town.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: adje on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:30:26
2 sitters in 2 games so far then!


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:31:05
2 sitters in 2 games so far then!
TBF I dont think he knew much about last weeks chance and that header was a good save by their keeper.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:31:45
Lindsey out


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:31:50
My stream is probably behind but that almost own goal, the build up was good. It was one move, but better passing than I've seen all season. More of that, please.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:31:56
Ex Swindon 😡


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:32:13
Oh ffs.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:32:14
0-1


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:32:24
Ex Town winger Randall.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:32:48
The defensive shape there was baffling, three men trying to mark the guy who crossed and two men in the box unmarked. A defensive coach would be fuming with that.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: JBZ on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:33:14
Not a great start


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:33:18
Shocking lack of tracking.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: adje on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:33:24
TBF I dont think he knew much about last weeks chance and that header was a good save by their keeper.
Yeah I meant the "one yard out"stab over the bar


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:33:33
We are crap.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:33:37
Absolute acres of space for him in the box, couldnt miss.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: oxonrobin on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:34:05
I had prepared myself to be underwhelmed this evening, but even so, not a great start  >:(


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:35:56
Brynn does a double save.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: JBZ on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:36:22
Brynn looking like the MoM already


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:36:30
Another save from Brynn.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:37:33
Darcy tried an effort from 20 yards, low and soft at the keeper.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: RedRag on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:38:12
Brynn for MOM


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Mr Stevens on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:38:19
When's Rochdale away?


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:38:49
Our Defence is so laughably dog shit. Makes it even worse when SL is supposed to be a defensive coach.

Our improvements going forward means absolutely fuck all when we can't defend to save our lives and are showing no improvements whatsoever.

I don't give a fuck if we score 5 and win. Lindsay Out and get a manager who can give us a defence that isn't totally hopeless.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:38:51
Lavinier gets his head to a cross gives them a corner.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:39:15
Brynn player of the season at this rate.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: oxonrobin on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:40:00
Swindon v Sutton

P3 W3 D0 L0 F6 A3.

Every game vs Sutton that the Town have played has ended 2-1 to Swindon.

Lets keep that up today.

It’s still on thanks to Brynn


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:40:12
I'm not rabid Lynsey out but the issues with this team are so clearly systems rather than talent based that I don't know that there's much other choice.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:41:23
It’s still on thanks to Brynn
At the moment ;)


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:41:38
I'm not rabid Lynsey out but the issues with this team are so clearly systems rather than talent based that I don't know that there's much other choice.
I concur.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Cowley38 on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:43:16
Enough is Enough

I've never shouted for managers to be sacked so early in the season

But Lyndsey is not up to the job....

Get him out!!!



Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:43:32
Good free kick from Reed saved by the keeper and then Jephcott gets a shot in but its weak and at the keeper.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: RedRag on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:44:16
Ref Watch:

walked Suttom back 8 medium paces, then 2 lady steps when he met their wall.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:45:54
It's like a fucking hot potato. Terrible


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:46:09
This crowd feel like they're going to turn. We need a goal and soon.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:46:16
Darcy looking tricky.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: JBZ on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:47:12
Worrying when the best chances come from pot shots


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:48:49
I don’t worry as long as we’re creating chances. We’ve struggled with that so far. Jephcott looking good.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: JBZ on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:49:00
Both keepers have performed well


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Godd002 on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:49:27
just joined..not sure how far my feed is behind but down 1 i see...but the past few minutes Town seems to be moving the ball around well....


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Shizzle on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:50:36
If your in the crowd and shouting “SHOOOOOOT”. Then you’re a bellend


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:51:14
I do like the look of Jephcott, he looks eager and lively so far.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:52:28
We're passing it alright and creating half chances. Its just a shame our back line is so fucking unbelievably clueless.

Lindsey is not the man to turn this around. Keeping him in the job is just delaying the inevitable at this point.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:52:41
If your in the crowd and shouting “SHOOOOOOT”. Then you’re a bellend

The only bellend is not attending.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: RedRag on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:53:14
is it tme for Baudry to return for McDonald?


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: JBZ on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:53:41
That Randall lad looks useful...


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:54:14
Reed has had some great passes so far but also 2 absolutely terrible passes straight to them just outside the box.

Barely seen Gladwin yet.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:54:14
Can we have 21-22 Reed back?


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: RedRag on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:54:23
should've been two


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:55:17
Brynns first mistake but he gets away with it.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:55:42
Well that was nearly Brynn's MoM in the bin.

High pace of the game means lots of gaps, so both Reed and Gladwin have tried ambitious balls. They won't all come off but the ones that do will be worth it... Hopefully.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:55:46
Its a wonder we've not been badly embarrassed this season yet, talking 5 or 6 past us. Mixture of good goalkeeping and league 2 opposition strikers missing chances.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:55:54
Great interception by MacDonald.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Shizzle on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:56:17
The only bellend is not attending.
Did you not fancy it tonight?


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:56:22
Ooh, a scrap.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: bennett on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:56:57
Can we have 21-22 Reed back?
This game is waaay too hectic. I quite agree


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:57:36
MacDonald being a bit of a cunt there for my money. Started a fight and then took an enormous dive to try and get Bugiel sent off.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:57:38
Definate push on MacDonald in the chest.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: RedRag on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:57:42
FFS  please don't reduce Sutton to 10 men.  :doh: :doh:


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: bennett on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:58:50
Kizzi and their number 6 need booking, regardless. Trying to drag our mortally wounded Angus off his arse


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: RedRag on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:59:22
Kizzi and their number 6 need booking, regardless. Trying to drag our mortally wounded Angus off his arse
Agree


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:59:23
Just a yellow, probably correct.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:59:25
Kizzi and their number 6 need booking, regardless. Trying to drag our mortally wounded Angus off his arse

Agree that Kizzi committed more of an offense than Bugiel.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:59:36
Kizzi and their number 6 need booking, regardless. Trying to drag our mortally wounded Angus off his arse
Absolutely.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 18:59:36
MacDonald being a bit of a cunt there for my money. Started a fight and then took an enormous dive to try and get Bugiel sent off.

Agree. There was even a bit of a shout for a pen for the initial push on Bugiel.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: bennett on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:00:32
I don't get what Bugiel's defence was holding his nose, very odd


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:00:39
Going to have to watch MacDonald from now on, I think it could get niggly between them after that.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:01:30
Shade playing shit today, given the ball away more than hes found a Town player.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:01:53
I don't get what Bugiel's defence was holding his nose, very odd

MacDonald give him a little flick in the face while he was sat on the floor.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:02:28
Get in!


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:02:29
1-1 Shade!


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:02:39
thro the keepers legs!


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: bennett on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:02:42
Shade looks incredible. A proper confident guy who can control the ball at a stand still, do a neat body swerve and make space.
But then that space is wasted as he doesn't seem capable of passing or crossing.
I'd like him to try and take the ball on the run

As I was writing this he "megged" the keeper ffs


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:02:45
Think the defender put that through the keeper's legs?


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: JBZ on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:02:48
Comedy football


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:02:51
Ha ha. We’ll take it.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:03:22
Shade looks incredible. A proper confident guy who can control the ball at a stand still, do a neat body swerve and make space.
But then that space is wasted as he doesn't seem capable of passing or crossing.
I'd like him to try and

As I was righting this he "megged" the keeper ffs

Try again!


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:04:08
Shade looks incredible. A proper confident guy who can control the ball at a stand still, do a neat body swerve and make space.
But then that space is wasted as he doesn't seem capable of passing or crossing.
I'd like him to try and take the ball on the run

As I was righting this he "megged" the keeper ffs
I am sure theres a plyer in there somewhere, he just doesnt show it very often, today hes been awful but still scored....just!.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: bennett on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:04:34
Jeffers has missed three half chances in 45 mins of game time


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Godd002 on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:04:49
Im a bit behind...but i think shade better practice his celebration...he seemed lost to where to run and then almost injured himself..... :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: bennett on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:04:54
Jeffers has missed three half chances in 45 mins of game time
Nope, my magic has rubbed off


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: JBZ on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:05:03
Looks like weak pot shots are the way to go


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:05:24
Well that really is a gift. A shot with all the venom of a back pass yet he fumbles it.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:05:57
2-1 Williams!


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:06:04
Have that! Sutton are every bit as sloppy as us


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:06:05
Just said “C’mon Shady” then realised it doesn’t sound quite right.   :headhurts:


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:06:10
Great finish from 12 yards.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: JBZ on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:06:15
Wow, managerial mastermind


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:06:22
Both teams have been on the piss, right?


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:06:39
Sutton with some Swindon defending!


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: bennett on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:06:42
Putting the ball in the box works. Who'd had thought it!

Lovely stuff, my man shade instrumental in that


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:06:54
This game is enormous fun but a comically low standard of football. Beats being shit and dull though for sure.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Shizzle on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:07:01
Scott Lindsey is the messiah


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: bennett on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:07:11
Both teams have been on the piss, right?
They're paying their respects very oddly


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: RedRag on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:07:27
Lost my connection for Shade's goal.

Here in Miami.

But Lindsey in.  You beaut, Jonny!


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:07:39
That is much better. Good move.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: oxonrobin on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:07:45
Extremely league 2 this.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: dalumpimunki on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:07:58
Shade playing shit today, given the ball away more than hes found a Town player.

Could you post about how shit Jephs looks tonight please and see if it works again!


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: RedRag on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:08:28
Extremely league 2 this.
This


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:09:25
Could you post about how shit Jephs looks tonight please and see if it works again!
:D


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:09:28
Has Gladwin done stuff I haven’t noticed?


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:09:55
Our right back has been hopeless.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:10:06
Williams for me looks far better on the left.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:10:09
2-2


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: JBZ on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:10:19
Hell of a goal


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:10:32
Shit. That was a bit good.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:10:48
well it's not boring


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:10:51
Great finish.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:10:55
Four goal thriller 😀


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Pericardinho on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:11:02
Shocking defending but no way should Brynn be getting beat from there.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:11:18
Our right back has been hopeless.

There are plenty on display that can take that award, but you are right.  He has looked very "raw" when it comes to defending, especially tracking.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: JBZ on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:11:34
Likely to end up 7-7


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:11:52
Darcy has a shot but its deflected for another corner to Town.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: bennett on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:11:55
Our right back has been hopeless.
Doesn't seem up to pace in defence does he!


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:11:58
Honestly Lavinier doesn’t look like he’s played football before.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Godd002 on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:12:07
that was a rocket of a shot


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:12:47
Honestly Lavinier doesn’t look like he’s played football before.

He hasn't played "proper football" before.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: bennett on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:13:26
He hasn't player "proper football" before.
Yup, u23 football isn't likely to be quite the same pace


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:13:27
5 mins added time.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Nijholts Nuts on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:13:36
Honestly Lavinier doesn’t look like he’s played football before.
Interesting that he's is shit tonight, I thought that he was very assured on his debut.
It sounds like Randall is on one tonight, so Livinier may have found his level against him.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:13:40
I don't recall this Randall chap ever playing for us.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:14:18
MacDonald with a good block on the shot.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:15:07
I don't recall this Randall chap ever playing for us.

Yoof


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:15:43
I don't recall this Randall chap ever playing for us.
Played 9 times for the 1st team as a teenager.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:16:07
We took the money!


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:16:29
Didn’t we get a good amount of money for Randell?


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: JBZ on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:16:37
Again, Williams flopping to the floor at every opportunity is a bit tiresome


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: bennett on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:16:50
We took the money!
Where's the money clem? ;)


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:16:56
Interesting that he's is shit tonight, I thought that he was very assured on his debut.
It sounds like Randall is on one tonight, so Livinier may have found his level against him.

Tough to make any sort of assessment when he was playing against 10 men for most of the game.  Gillingham applied zero pressure on the full backs.  He is not being helped by anyone tonight, especially as Sutton have gone 4-2-4 when attacking, but he has been all over the shop.  At the very least the management team should be telling him to hold some of his runs.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:17:34
Where's the money clem? ;)

It was a long time ago


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:18:13
Didn’t we get a good amount of money for Randell?
£250k rising to £500k I think to Wolves.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:18:21
HT 2-2


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:18:33
Gladwin should have tried a shot. Except he doesn’t do that anymore.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:19:04
Again, Williams flopping to the floor at every opportunity is a bit tiresome
Best player on the pitch when hes on the ball for me.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:19:13
To be fair a lot of the Lee Power era is a blur as I wasn't going and very disillusioned.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:19:59
£250k rising to £500k I think to Wolves.

Except it rose like pancake.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:21:21
Except it rose like pancake.
I think he got a bad injury early on at Wolves and was released.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Godd002 on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:22:05
overall feel like Town is controlling the ball and making some nice opportunities....

didnt see first for sutton but 2nd was a rocket so not sure defense could do much...

just need to keep controlling and then taking opportunity to get the ball in the box...cant score if the ball is always outside the box.  overall entertaining...


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: bennett on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:22:59
Fair ht result. Neither team looks good at the back but we look far far too open when they break on us.
I reckon it'll end 2-2 and both teams will have a player sent off


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:23:13
Well that was ‘interesting’. Pretty much both teams playing like school kids flying forward without out any real set up or tactics on display, out of possession both teams are hopeless and cut open with ease.

We look like we will score but at the same time every attack they have looks like we will concede.

We’ve had a week to work on the training ground and get the set up and tactics right but it’s really not showing, it’s just chaos on that pitch with both teams to be honest.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:23:32
A really odd half. A huge amount of fun to watch, but think any coach would be despairing at that. We have some individual talent, our systems and patterns of play look entirely absent.

Still, better this than shit and dull.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:23:56
Well, that was a bit bad yet fun.

I'm like a dog with a bone on this one, I think our recruitment has been poor and we have a lower level of ability in our team this year.  We also seem a bit meh when it comes to how we want to play, there is nothing really there that shows us trying to impose much of anything on the other team.

What this game is doing, unfortunately, is proving Flitcrofts approach has merit at this level.  I am not suggesting I ever wish to see it again, but if we just look at some of the principles I am sure a team could be built that way with a much more appealing style.  Put your talent upfront, get them the ball near the other teams goal and wait for shit defending to occur at L2 level.  Have four central defenders as your back four - they won't ever attack but all four should be able to defend and enjoy defending.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: bennett on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:24:48
It was a long time ago
I know, was being a tit


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:24:57
Somehow, both of these sides had quite good defensive records before today.

Big fan of half time Cher.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:25:09
69% possession 11 shots 7 on target


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:25:43
I know, was being a tit

 :clap:


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:26:21
Darcy is being bullied in this one.

Williams best player on the pitch.

created 2 good chances for jephcott(missed). scored two fortuitous goals. could be 4-2.

it's a lot better than gills.. but also shit at the back at times. and fine others.

humph. football


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:28:40
We could have conceded another two as well, 4-4.  L2 at its best/worst.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:30:40
I know it is actually a valid reason, but hearing our Manager explaining a loan move because it means the player will get some long trips on a coach is surely a first, in football, ever.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:32:04
I know it is actually a valid reason, but hearing our Manager explaining a loan move because it means the player will get some long trips on a coach is surely a first, in football, ever.

If it was just that, I saw a Barnes coach up here the other week, that would have been a bloody long trip!


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:33:22
I know I have moaned about recruitment, but I only just realised Sutton have won three this season.  It really goes to show why we, as a club, should be expecting and doing so much better than we have been served thus far this season.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:34:27
Williams and Jephcott doing well for me, Jeffy is obviously a bit off matchday fitness understandably, but Darcy is being pushed off the ball all the time and is the wrong choice.

Khan should be on to replace him, also I would get Wakeling on for Shade who other than scoring hasn't done much and push Williams to the left as he looks wasted on the right.

Roberts could be a wild card later this half when Williams is tiring.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:36:11
Williams and Jephcott doing well for me, Jeffy is obviously a bit off matchday fitness understandably, but Darcy is being pushed off the ball all the time and is the wrong choice.

Khan should be on to replace him, also I would get Wakeling on for Shade who other than scoring hasn't done much and push Williams to the left as he looks wasted on the right.

Roberts could be a wild card later this half when Williams is tiring.

Jephcott reminds me of a previous Swindon striker.  My head keeps telling me it was Mutch, but I may be thinking of someone with a similar running style more recently?


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:38:29
Jephcott reminds me of a previous Swindon striker.  My head keeps telling me it was Mutch, but I may be thinking of someone with a similar running style more recently?
Mutch was a lot more gangly, Jelhcott has a similar feel to Doyle for me.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:38:43
Att: 7,589 (85 Suttons).


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:39:28
Potentially I think we have good enough players to do ok, but something isn't right.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:39:33
7,500 (85 Suttons).


Swindon 1 Sutton 1 Att: 7,590  (away 88)

Nearly😀


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:40:43
Got away with that, over the bar from 16 yards unmarked in our box.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:40:51
Another free man centrally in the box.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:42:23

Nearly😀
And me.

0-0 in front of 7,489 with 95 Suttoners there.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:42:46
Darcy should really have done better there.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:43:44
And me.


We would be at the top of the attendance prediction league if there was one😀


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:45:41
Another solid save by Brynn from a long shot.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: RedRag on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:47:00
Lavinier has been poor tracking and defending tonight but he's a quality footballer.

Reminds me a little of KKH who let's face it didn't start - or even finish- here as a quality defender.

Let's give hime time.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:48:20
We're making a lot of very risky decisions from restarts at the moment, feels like we're trying too hard to make things happen.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:49:27
How can Hawes keep mistaking Darcy for Williams?


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:49:45
Jephcott of for Wakeling.

Khan on for Darcy.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: RedRag on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:50:00
I've enjoyed Jephcott.  Looks a proper lower League target man.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:50:13
A few boos at the substitutions made.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:50:14
How can Hawes keep mistaking Darcy for Williams?
Its the hair.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:51:50
Never mind Garnerball, this is Chaosball.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:52:48
Fast exciting football we were promised!


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:53:52
Never mind Garnerball, this is Chaosball.
Chaos is too refined a word.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:54:27
Fans getting restless


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:56:19
Chaos is too refined a word.

Chaos descending into farce.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:56:27
2 good blocks in a row from MacDonald.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Mr Stevens on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:56:59
There's a ball boy on the far side of the Town End who can't get off his arse.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:57:03
Chaos descending into farce.
The thing is its the same for both teams, it could still go either way!


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:57:22
Fans getting restless

Someone in front of Hawes is doing a very good impression of a Cow.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:57:24
Orange card for Lavinier there. Looked relieved to see the yellow!


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 19:57:49
Orange card for Lavinier there.
Probably a sin bin challenge.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:01:26
Another good defensive header by MacDonald, how can he do the difficult stuff well but struggle with the simple things?


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:01:45
Time to get Shade off and bring on the wildcard Roberts.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:02:53
Another good defensive header by MacDonald, how can he do the difficult stuff well but struggle with the simple things?

You give him something to defend and he will defend, you ask him to think about things and do the smart stuff and he struggles - that's how I see it anyway


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:03:52
You give him something to defend and he will defend, you ask him to think about things and do the smart stuff and he struggles - that's how I see it anyway
You are probably right, give him the ball at his feet and ask him to pass to a town player and he struggles.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:05:43
Invention to speed up the game... A 4th officials board that can show more than one set of numbers at once. Can't be that fucking difficult...


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:06:06
On a positive note, the 3 new seats in the home dugout look comfy.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:06:37
You are probably right, give him the ball at his feet and ask him to pass to a town player and he struggles.

I played with lots of defenders like that at grass roots - ask them to win every header and smash every tackle and they will literally put their bodies on the line - ask them to relax with the ball at their feet and play simple balls to feet or in the channels and they turn into Taylor Curran.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:07:18
And now Reed is Williams. WTAF?


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:07:24
It worked for Shaun Taylor


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:07:41
Gladwin slows down every attack.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:08:03
I played with lots of defenders like that at grass roots - ask them to win every header and smash every tackle and they will literally put their bodies on the line - ask them to relax with the ball at their feet and play simple balls to feet or in the channels and they turn into Taylor Curran.

The defence calls Jeryl Ifill to the stand.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:09:26
Hutton coming on for Lavinier who is injured.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:10:20
It worked for Shaun Taylor

Hush your mouth..


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:10:59
Great save from the Sutton defender there.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:11:02
Handball, FK to Swindon 25 yards out centrally.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:11:06
Shaun Taylor had a mazy 40 yard run through the heart of the Man Utd midfield.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:11:49
Hush your mouth..
TBF Taylor admitted before he worked with Hoddle nobody had ever taught him how to actually pass a ball in his career.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:13:02
Lyndsey has just told a fan to ‘fuck off, you fat cunt’

This is going well!  :girlgiggle:


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:13:14
Same with Arsenal before Wenger took charge


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:13:41
TBF Taylor admitted before he worked with Hoddle nobody had ever taught him how to actually pass a ball in his career.

My point still stands - i won't have somebody comparing MacDonald to Oooosh..


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:14:08
Lyndsey has just told a fan to ‘fuck off, you fat cunt’

This is going well!  :girlgiggle:

Fair do's


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:14:10
And now Reed is Hutton. I’m getting worried about our Andrew.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: bennett on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:14:35
Reed is Hutton now.
It really makes me question what actually happens when I listen on the radio


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:16:34
MacDonald again with a good tackle.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:18:45
Hawes said "he will be interested to see how the crowd react if it finishes 2-2"


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:18:51
Hutton deep cross onto Wakelings head but his header is off the top of his head and easy save.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:19:13
Please use the bench.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: bennett on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:19:26
I do like how we're getting people in the box today. On another day and another layer of chaos we could've won this


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: bennett on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:20:01
Hawes said "he will be interested to see how the crowd react if it finishes 2-2"
I'm amazed he got the score right!


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:20:20
I do like how we're getting people in the box today. On another day and another layer of chaos we could've won this
This game is like Boris Johnsons hair, scruffy but at times with a great comedy value.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:20:43
6 mins added time.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:21:00
Get in😀


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:21:23
3-2 Wakeling.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:21:23
FUCKING YES!


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:21:31
Great header.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: newmarket red on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:21:46
yipeeèeee :clap:


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: bennett on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:22:03
This game is like Boris Johnsons hair, scruffy but at times with a great comedy value.
focus on the other half of that sentence and I'm a great predictor :D


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: oxonrobin on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:22:03
Yeaaaahhhhh! Get in  :clap:


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:22:04
Blake-Traceys inch perfect cross.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:22:13
4 mins lefft🤔


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:22:26
Not sure we deserve the three points but delighted to take it.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: bennett on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:22:28
shade, khan and Wakeling in the box for that cross. Love it


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: donkey on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:22:33
Get the bastard in!


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Loobug on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:23:11
I needed that… drawing is boring.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:23:36
Baudry on for Reed.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Robinz on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:24:42
Yes Thank you god


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: RedRag on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:25:31
Ref hurrying Reed off after Sutton using up masses of time with their subs for players omn other side of pitch   >:(


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Shizzle on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:25:48
Swindon fans. 1 minute ready to boo the team off the next applauding every pass. What a bunch of cunts.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:26:09
Just keep possession now and run it down.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: oxonrobin on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:26:38
Really didn’t think we had 3 goals in us in one game.

Rochdale doesn’t really count does it?


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: bennett on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:26:50
Is Brynn trying to get the ball into the tunnel from his goal kicks?


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:26:52
Come on ref just blow the whistle.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:27:26
Williams my MotM today hes chased everything.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:27:35
Williams still chasing every ball. No doubt about his commitment.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Loobug on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:27:55
I just got the ifollow notification of the final score on my phone but the commentary is still going !


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:28:05
FT 3-2

We did a fucking win!


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: AMayesIng on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:29:08
Get in. Unbeaten since 1st game of the season and 3 points off the playoffs. #GlassHalfFull


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: oxonrobin on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:29:55
Did we deserve that?


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:30:19
Some very bald Sutton coaches seem quite cross about something. Not really sure what.

That game was a lot of fun, but a team that plays like that will not have a good season overall. There's plenty of individual talent, but the systems and tactics need some real work. Let's hope that game proves a turning point.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:31:37
Rowe seriously looking for a fight with Macdonald. Needing to be held back.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: RedRag on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:32:43
Williams my MotM today hes chased everything.
Great call.  Loved the heart.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: mexico red on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:33:05
Is it safe to come back here now?


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: RedRag on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:34:43
Did we deserve that?
Well Sutton had been playing for the draw for some time.

 There's your answer, imo.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:36:01
I think the Sutton group were annoyed about the Orange card tackle still.

Overall - you take the win because I am not sure we were good value.  Not that we didn't create enough to get it, but more we could just as easily given up three more goals in that game.  On the positive side we seemed a little more direct for most of that game, which is probably a good thing given we are a lot more limited on the ball this season and have less upfront.

Wakeling continues to impress me.  I'd love for him to be given one of the wider slots instead of Shade with Jephcott through the middle.  That has the makings of a poor mans Yates and Doyle combination I think.

Dodgy as hell down our own right side defending, that seems unlikely to get much better with the injury either.

Overall, we can look back at some of the draws and be very happy we have them in the bank.  If we can continue to find a way of making a more direct approach work and get some of the better attacking talent working, then we stand a chance of competing (as we should).

Still no idea on the Manager side of things.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: RedRag on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:38:12
Thankfully academic, but I'd been getting ready to enquire what was our longest longest sequence of draws in the League.

We were on a Doyle-esque run but it stops at 6.

And in the right way   :pint:


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:38:56
Well Sutton had been playing for the draw for some time.

 There's your answer, imo.

They did what we've often got annoyed at Town for doing - stopping doing something that was working in favour of trying to sit on the current scoreline. I'm sure it must work or managers wouldn't keep doing it, but it really does seem to backfire more often than not.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:41:28
They did what we've often got annoyed at Town for doing - stopping doing something that was working in favour of trying to sit on the current scoreline. I'm sure it must work or managers wouldn't keep doing it, but it really does seem to backfire more often than not.

A bit of confirmation bias I imagine - you remember the times it backfires but it likely works most of the time when you look at the numbers.  The real comparison would be to see how successful a team is when they don't revert to sitting on the result.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Pericardinho on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:44:01
Impossible not to like Wakeling. Plays with energy, desire and enthusiasm. Didn't know he had that sort of finish in his locker. Him and Jephcott forming a partnership could turn us from an average side into a half decent one.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:51:14
Hard to be critical when you win but fuck me didn’t we make hard work of beating a team who looked bang average but somehow me made them look half decent. Still as I oft say at the end of the season games like this will be long forgotten and all attention will be on the result.

Still plenty of work defensively. Played out quicker. Some nice inter play. Again plenty of chances. Still getting better but for any positive improvement there is the minus of the defence.

Still, Donny next. Would take a point but we must be looking for all three with a purpose and conviction.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: adje on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 20:57:05
Impossible not to like Wakeling. Plays with energy, desire and enthusiasm. Didn't know he had that sort of finish in his locker. Him and Jephcott forming a partnership could turn us from an average side into a half decent one.
Don't know obviously but I don't think a partnership is in Lindsey's mind


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 21:03:11
Impossible not to like Wakeling. Plays with energy, desire and enthusiasm. Didn't know he had that sort of finish in his locker. Him and Jephcott forming a partnership could turn us from an average side into a half decent one.

Not sure we have the players else where to play a formation with 2 up top.

Anyway, how much do you think we’ll get for Wakeling in January?


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: dogs on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 21:04:01
Sutton were shite, so at least we won. Other than that, see nothing but Town being lower mid table plodders at the moment


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 21:08:12
Not sure we have the players else where to play a formation with 2 up top.

Anyway, how much do you think we’ll get for Wakeling in January?

We started the season 5-3-2, and Lindsay has said a few times that we might go back to it. It is tricky because those two feel like they'd work as a pair, but not sure the wing backs shape worked when we tried it before.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Hyabb17 on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 21:10:03
Not sure I’ve ever come away from a game unhappy that we won. Masks how inept Lindsay really is.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 21:10:20
We started the season 5-3-2, and Lindsay has said a few times that we might go back to it. It is tricky because those two feel like they'd work as a pair, but not sure the wing backs shape worked when we tried it before.

Exactly so you’d be looking at going 442 and not sure we have the wingers for that.

Unless you did 433 with them as a pair in the front 3 and the 3rd person basically having free reign but again this takes away any attacking player in the wide areas


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: RedRag on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 21:16:04
Not sure I’ve ever come away from a game unhappy that we won. Masks how inept Lindsay really is.
The masking will be appalling if we end up being promoted  ;)


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: molepar on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 21:41:42
Not sure whether the overall mood is positive that we won or negative that it was Lindsey at the helm for a victory?!


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: 1989Monkey on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 21:42:38
Why were people surprised Jethcott came off after 60mins? He’s working his way up to full fitness so wasn’t a surprise him coming off at all. Our medical team do a fantastic job and this is all part of the process. Given another game on Sat then he probably will get 60-70 there too


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: singingiiiffy on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 21:42:53
If we are going to have a shit season that's the way I would like us to play.

Was quite a decent viewing tbh. I see comments like Sutton are shit but it was quite the positive set up for an away side and they worked sol brynn quite a lot. Fantastic hit from randall 2nd goal.

I'd say first half Williams won us the match, 2nd half macdonald stopped us losing the match.

brynn is becoming a bit of the norm now with his outstanding saves. He's like Digby throwing himself to those top corners.

last season we very rarely won a game through our substitutions where as this season they are making a very notable difference.

Jefcott is a very clever striker and goals will easily come for him. Not quite sure how he didn't get on the scoresheet but I have no worries going forward.

Darcy is a very clever and tidy player, got caught out a couple of times taking too long and nearly cost us. His positive play outweighs the bad easily.

iv been very dismissive of Lindseys appointment more than of lindsey himself. You can tell he is raw but you can see how he's a good bloke and desperate to do well. It's much much easier to hate a Phil brown or a Sheridan than an honest guy doing his best. Let's hope we can build on this going forward.

The county ground perfectly observed 90 minutes of silence for the Queen tonight. that was the plan right?



Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Boy About Town on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 21:43:28
Barrow will be falling foul of the EFL for failure to control players at full time.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 21:56:14
Quote from: 1989Monkey
Why were people surprised Jethcott came off after 60mins? He’s working his way up to full fitness so wasn’t a surprise him coming off at all. Our medical team do a fantastic job and this is all part of the process. Given another game on Sat then he probably will get 60-70 there too

No idea what the Town End were on moaning/chanting about those subs.

Jephcott you've covered.

Darcy was getting bullied out of it.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 21:58:38
Impossible to describe that tonight, chaos doesn’t do it justice. Basically a basketball match on a football pitch. Neither is team had any kind of control or game management during the entire 90 minutes. Still doesn’t feel like we have a plan and the players are just basically doing and playing where they want. But a wins a win, Saturday will tell us more as Sutton were a poor team whereas I would imagine Donny will have more about them.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 22:02:20
Quote from: Red Frog
Rowe seriously looking for a fight with Macdonald. Needing to be held back.

I may be wrong but I think it kicked off in the tunnel after too.

stewards legged it across the pitch and headed down there.. Most people were out the ground but thanks to the DRS slow egress we saw it.
--------
How weird was the start of the game, coming out to silence, the eulogy, the minutes silence and God Save The King


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Frigby Daser on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 22:07:39
Glass half full:
* We found a way to win
* Jephcott found the right areas
* Wakeling can finish
* Better tempo in the first half (not Gillingham style slow mo)
* Some decent individual moments.
* Get the ugly wins, and we may get some momentum.

Half empty:
* Lacked cohesion, authority, composure, structure.
* 11 individuals - who looked lost at times.
* Until the goal, we didn’t test the keeper in the 2nd half.
* The flattest a CG crowd has been in the 2nd half since Stevenage at home last season.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 22:19:36
No idea what the Town End were on moaning/chanting about those subs.

Jephcott you've covered.

Darcy was getting bullied out of it.

The TE some right twats tonight and fair play for the DR turning on them.
Clueless and unbelievable they couldn’t see that Jephcott is not fully match fit.

A little unsettled in defence but some positives to take from that.
Much better moving forward, far more pace.
Gladwin outstanding and Williams a real shift.
Managed to thank Wardy before the game and wish him all the best, appeared appreciative.

A win is a win and on to Donny.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: RedRag on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 22:25:46
If we are going to have a shit season that's the way I would like us to play.

Was quite a decent viewing tbh. I see comments like Sutton are shit but it was quite the positive set up for an away side and they worked sol brynn quite a lot. Fantastic hit from randall 2nd goal.

I'd say first half Williams won us the match, 2nd half macdonald stopped us losing the match.

brynn is becoming a bit of the norm now with his outstanding saves. He's like Digby throwing himself to those top corners.

last season we very rarely won a game through our substitutions where as this season they are making a very notable difference.

Jefcott is a very clever striker and goals will easily come for him. Not quite sure how he didn't get on the scoresheet but I have no worries going forward.

Darcy is a very clever and tidy player, got caught out a couple of times taking too long and nearly cost us. His positive play outweighs the bad easily.

iv been very dismissive of Lindseys appointment more than of lindsey himself. You can tell he is raw but you can see how he's a good bloke and desperate to do well. It's much much easier to hate a Phil brown or a Sheridan than an honest guy doing his best. Let's hope we can build on this going forward.

The county ground perfectly observed 90 minutes of silence for the Queen tonight. that was the plan right?


Good post.

I especially like what you say about Lindsey.  I feel the fanbase should be giving him more encouragement in what is a new challenge for him and also a quite different squad from last year.  There seems to be a drift away from the Garnerball possession football that actually riled so many last season until the last few games.

Partly forced by the Town End vocally preventing last season's Conroy/Reed build ups from goalkicks, partly as a reaction to the rightly criticised powderpuff pissing about at Priestfield - or partly by Lindsey overseeing an evolution of style with his changing squad?

We all want out of L2 at almost any price.  But imo Lindsey deserves far more support and even respect than he seems to receive.  It's about time STFC started to be as ruthless and self interested as the likes of Garner and Wellens.  We need to be scouting and wooing a limited no. of managers.  Either because they have lower league experience that could be a positive fit (like Wellens) or perhaps, even better, for young, rising stars from the Academies or Non League (like Garner or Danny Cowley).  Starting now.

But Lindsey needs to do as well as possible meanwhile for however long. Sacking Lindsey in October and looking for a replacement then would be madness unless League survival is genuinely threatened.  There'll be zero interesting managers available then and, no, STFC, can't just go and wave cash and status at any manager having a good season elsewhere.

Just do you best, Lindsey and do it your way.  You're not Eddie Howe but with a little luck you can do a job for us.  Good luck!


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: dogs on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 22:34:36
The TE some right twats tonight and fair play for the DR turning on them.
Clueless and unbelievable they couldn’t see that Jephcott is not fully match fit.

A little unsettled in defence but some positives to take from that.
Much better moving forward, far more pace.
Gladwin outstanding and Williams a real shift.
Managed to thank Wardy before the game and wish him all the best, appeared appreciative.

A win is a win and on to Donny.

There's definitely components to work with, I just can't see Lindsey getting the best out of them. The side generally seems flat with the odd spark here or there and I'm sure better managers would get far more from this group, as ability wise, on a whole, , they seem more technically sound than last year's squad, but lack any real direction or hate to say - identity.

Play like that against better sides, even in this division, and we'll be punished more often than not and end up 17th.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: stfcjack on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 22:43:26
There will be some in the TE devastated that we won tonight. Shocking “support”. As Duke mentioned good from the DR who sang “you don’t know what you’re doing” and “Town end what’s the score” :D

3 points and into Saturday, up the bastard reds


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: singingiiiffy on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 22:47:56

Play like that against better sides, even in this division, and we'll be punished more often than not and end up 17th.

Stick this in the trivial things that annoy you thread.

I hate this phrase especially after a victory. Town usually play their best against the best and save their worst for the worst so it never makes any sense to me.



Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: dogs on Tuesday, September 13, 2022, 22:53:10
Stick this in the trivial things that annoy you thread.

I hate this phrase especially after a victory. Town usually play their best against the best and save their worst for the worst so it never makes any sense to me.



That's merely a perception - and even if accurate, arguably means we're not good enough to work out how to beat the poorer sides so will result in the same outcome of midtable mediocrity


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 00:07:44
The TE some right twats tonight and fair play for the DR turning on them.
Clueless and unbelievable they couldn’t see that Jephcott is not fully match fit.

A little unsettled in defence but some positives to take from that.
Much better moving forward, far more pace.
Gladwin outstanding and Williams a real shift.
Managed to thank Wardy before the game and wish him all the best, appeared appreciative.

A win is a win and on to Donny.

The DR couldn't turn a corner.  Heard nothing, again.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 00:11:54
There will be some in the TE devastated that we won tonight. Shocking “support”. As Duke mentioned good from the DR who sang “you don’t know what you’re doing” and “Town end what’s the score” :D

3 points and into Saturday, up the bastard reds

The shocking "support" has always been the side stands. Silent again. The subs booing was muted and not just the TE. The main grumblings from the Town End was the ridiculous set up for our goal kick routine.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 05:26:25
Entertained, particularly in the first half.

Maybe Lindsey has that prized commodity in a manager. Luck.
Wouldn't blame him for a silent fuck you to certain sections of the fans at the end.

Given a choice, it's probably better to watch attempts to play out from the back rather than the ball being consistently hoofed out of play by the keeper.
There was space to be had behind the press. Easier said than done to play that way in this league.

Not sure who it was but a couple of lovely pinpoint diagonal balls played in the first half. Long passing at its best.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: donkey on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 05:51:10
Re Hawes and getting some players wrong last night, he's off to the opticians this morning, as he knew something was up. His eyesight a bit blurry.

I think he's not normally that erratic and wants to get it sorted asap.


Title: Re: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: AldbourneRed on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 06:34:45
The shocking "support" has always been the side stands. Silent again. The subs booing was muted and not just the TE. The main grumblings from the Town End was the ridiculous set up for our goal kick routine.
The subs booing was muted. The chanting of 'Scott Lindsey, you don't have a clue' when he'd just subbed off a player who was obviously not fully fit was loud, clear and coming from the TE. Think that's what's being referred to.


Title: Re: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 06:37:28
The subs booing was muted. The chanting of 'Scott Lindsey, you don't have a clue' when he'd just subbed off a player who was obviously not fully fit was loud, clear and coming from the TE. Think that's what's being referred to.
Yep, obviously heard that, didn't join in mind.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: ThreeDrawsMentality on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 06:51:33
The shocking "support" has always been the side stands. Silent again. The subs booing was muted and not just the TE. The main grumblings from the Town End was the ridiculous set up for our goal kick routine.
And look what happened after the Town End booing caused Brynn to kick long instead of playing it short....kicked it out of play twice in a row.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 06:55:32
to be fair Brynn should be able to kick straight, and trying to play short when the full backs are marked is stupid. I get the frustration at that.

But you have to be pretty thick not to realise jephcott isn't fully fit, and playing 90 risks injury.

Darcy was poor/weak second half to my eyes..

Town End were shit chanting what they did, when they did.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 07:03:10
Both goals conceded were avoidable

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rdy03TzJuk

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ0P9546HeE

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bZU8vnCz34Y


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: theakston2k on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 07:08:11
And look what happened after the Town End booing caused Brynn to kick long instead of playing it short....kicked it out of play twice in a row.
To be fair the alternative seemed to be playing out from the back and giving the ball away in dangerous positions. It went from one extreme to another and is just symptomatic of a lack of a plan at the back.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 07:24:02
Playing out is a risky strategy but there are benefits if it works.
Trouble is, not sure that it's a style suited for L2 CB's.

Clayton could yet morph into a lower league Nestor Lorenzo and start casually chipping it out wide to the full back or into midfield. :)






Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 07:24:51
And look what happened after the Town End booing caused Brynn to kick long instead of playing it short....kicked it out of play twice in a row.

Without our goal being threatened, good on him.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 07:30:58
Quote from: Jimmy QuitMoaning
Both goals conceded were avoidable

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rdy03TzJuk (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rdy03TzJuk)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ0P9546HeE (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ0P9546HeE)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bZU8vnCz34Y (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bZU8vnCz34Y)

so were 2 we scored


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 07:43:21
Let's worry about ourselves 😀


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: ThreeDrawsMentality on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 07:46:13
Playing out is a risky strategy but there are benefits if it works.
Trouble is, not sure that it's a style suited for L2 CB's.


Yet a lot of the promoted teams from L2 in the past few years have been promoted playing out from the back. It works, as long as it is well coached, which is where our problems may lie.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: SpeakingFluentPeroni on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 07:50:28
Great to see the way the players celebrated the winner as a squad and same at end of the game. Team spirit looks strong and I guess being unbeaten for so long helps with that.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 07:50:51
A lot of top teams don't play out from the back so maybe work on something different if it's not working.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: ThreeDrawsMentality on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 07:58:21
A lot of top teams don't play out from the back so maybe work on something different if it's not working.
Of course, but we don't have the players set up to do anything different. With Jephcott and/or Wakeling up top, they're never gonna win the aerial battle from long kicks, nor do we have wingers/attackers behind them suited to press and win the ball back quickly.

Regardless of people's views of how we build up, the dogs abuse the players got for doing so from the townend was a disgrace. Literally on a hiding to nothing creating such a toxic atmosphere this early into a season.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 08:04:14
Not read back yet. What a strange game of football last night starting off with a golden opportunity for Jephcott well saved, followed by a hideously defended goal for Sutton where Will Randall was given the freedom of our box to pick his spot in the corner. Nice finish but we are susceptible to that ball pulled back. (See also P.Smyth Leyton Orient) We were on the ropes a little at the time and Sutton would have been disappointed not to have got at least another in that period where we were shakier than a shitting dog. Slowly we started to get into a rhythm and thanks to shockingly bad defending from our opponents we went from 1-0 down to 2-1 up in the blink of an eye. Nice finish by Jonny Williams mind you. That wasn't to be the end of the scoring though, long ball to Randall who to be fair to him picked out the corner from distance. I am not completely sure but it looked as though Brynn was slightly too far to the right of the goal?

Second half we huffed and puffed and eventually Sutton declared for a point. It looked like they had it but a good delivery into the box was neatly headed home by Wakeling. 3 massive points secured to stop the drought of draws. Unfortunately we still very much look like a work in progress. At times I thought we played some really good football 'through the thirds'. Williams, Shade and the excellent Gladwin I thought were directing proceedings nicely. Darcy had his moments but looked a little light weight at times. Reed, still not up to where he was last season but seemed to improve and had a big hand in the winning goal. Defensively we are a mess still, however it was positive to see Hutton slot in well after Lavinier was taken off injured.

I'm really still on the fence about how this season is going to go, we are still far from a cohesive smooth winning machine but there are signs that we can play good football, but unfortunately there are signs we are still stinking the place out. Jephcott badly needs a goal and we need to sort out the defence but the midfield is showing signs it can be lethal this season if Gladwin, Reed, Darcy, Khan, Williams et al hit their straps. Donny away next on paper is tough but their fans aren't overly happy with their manager so it's a good chance to get back to back wins on board.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Abrahammer on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 08:05:35
A lot of top teams don't play out from the back so maybe work on something different if it's not working.

Top teams in this division or in football as a whole?


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 08:07:53
Its kind of weird that a win just convinced me more that Lindsey isn't the man to lead us forward, but here we are. Sutton were honestly atrocious and it seems that is the criteria needed for us to win games this season.

I already knew we had ability going forward despite the lack of goals, its obvious. But we cannot defend for shit. Totally hopeless and Lindsey doesn't show even the slightest signs of sorting it out.  The phrase papering over the cracks springs to mind.


Title: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 08:11:06
Nice summary BO

would also like to add that in one or two occasions Hutton bombed on down the wing. I realised at that point we hadn't done much of that.

Maybe fresh legs late in the game was why things opened up for him. Would like to see Roberts in similar circumstances (though with lavinier proper crocked the wasn't the opportunity yesterday)


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: MangoRed on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 08:16:10
Finally a win, 3 pts and a 90th min winner feels good, who cares how it comes 😂. Thought Jephcott shoulda scored both chances he had. First goal from them fully avoidable as per usual, 7 players on other side of pitch and just 1 on the goal scored side tells you why we conceded. Nice finish from Williams for the second. Darcy creative but got bullied yday, criminal letting that ball bounce twice for their second, right back shoulda done better also. Thought midfield was good and worked well together, Reed getting back to his best just keeping play moving (brilliant feet for third goal build up). Lavenier decent and Williams a standout, gotta play both forwards together now, make it work.. Wakeling looks a top find.

I’m not sold on Lindsey at all, but telling him to go mid game I find a little odd, keep it to end of game at least, we was drawing the game, performance wasn’t even that bad. Hope he did give it back to the fans and more, next time I hope he does a mourinho and knee slides, more than entitled to give it after he takes it. Brynn had no choice but to kick it out/king with how toxic it was. Baffles me with persist playing out with McDonald, when we have Baudry who’s one of the best passers in league from defence.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 09:17:31
Lavinier I thought had a mixed game. Some of his defending wasn't great.

But it's only his second league game. still finding feet


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 09:31:08
Some views from Sutton fans who seem convinced they had loads more fans there than the 85 announced, I think they are wrong though.

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Some of the Swindon fans really aren't helping their team, getting on their case..

A bit frustrated too be honest! Another late goal conceded when we should of got a draw. Swindon were nothing special. The pluses were will Randall with two goals and joe kizzi for me, grate defender

Thought Swindon looked good with the ball first half but defensively awful. We could have scored a couple more. Eastmond also had a great chance early in the 2nd half. We conceded some bad goals and again small margins left us defeated on the road. But we can’t give goals away like we did and come away with points. Again they announced a silly away figure.

Came out of the blocks fast and should have scored more than one when Swindon netted their first followed quickly by their second.
Surprised Omar stayed on and then we get overrun in midfield Harry and Craig and everyone in the team working hard to try and get the ball. We get back into the game but you can only soak up pressure for so long and we conceded in added time yet again.

close game could have gone either way, Randall is our magic man, absolute quality. We probably sat back to much in the final 5-10mins looking happiest with the draw. Our defence looked unusually shaky, and it cost 2 goals, poor old Jack these things happen to keepers.

Well that was a bit frustrating. To be honest, Swindon were better than Crewe and peppered us for a while in the first half. That first half however contained not only some of the best football I've seen us play this season, but was really entertaining stuff.

Although at least 2 of the 3 goals we could do nothing about, for me the entire team changed with the triple subsitution. At that point the side seemed to lose direction

It was an entertaining game to watch and Johnny Williams was absolute quality.

Oh, and there was more than 85 of us there. They don't seem to count purchases on the day!

There was a definite sense of double déjà vu at the final whistle as once again we lose to Swindon and concede after the 90th minute.

Swindon are a decent side (if not perhaps quite the sum of their parts), and losing narrowly at the County Ground is no disgrace, but the manner of this defeat was disappointing. They take 11th place from us, though we only slip to 12th. Our next two league games are at home where results have been pretty good so far.



Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 09:44:27
Doesn't matter if they had 185, still shite.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 09:50:45
On a side note, I hopped off the bus on Corporation Street as I couldn't be arsed to go to the bus station and back into a queue. I walked up one of the alleys. Jeez, there was a lot of shite dumped up there. Mattresses, sofas, and general crap. Looked very run down.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 09:56:21
On a side note, I hopped off the bus on Corporation Street as I couldn't be arsed to go to the bus station and back into a queue. I walked up one of the alleys. Jeez, there was a lot of shite dumped up there. Mattresses, sofas, and general crap. Looked very run down.

Any angry ladies in mobility scooters there?


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 10:35:54
Not sure I’ve ever come away from a game unhappy that we won. Masks how inept Lindsay really is.

An unusual comment and reading other fans' comments it's a really strange time supporting Swindon at the moment. When fans have made up their mind very early that the management team aren't up for the job it's clearly going to take a monumental good run of form to change that and there is that strange mindset that possibly the team losing games is better long term as Clem and RA will have to replace SL. My own personal thought is that getting so many new squad members to gel and hit the ground running is a huge ask. Mistakes have been made for sure, pre-season wasn't used properly and to recruit a large number of players for a specific formation only to rip it up and try something different definitely is a red flag.

I find the divisiveness around the place tiresome personally, it's like American politics where there doesn't appear to be much middle ground. And now it appears that the Town End and Don Rogers stands are at each other's throats, the manager is giving vocal abuse to supporters, Angus MacDonald appears to be getting it in the neck. Last night was a mess of a game, no getting away from that. Maybe I am a fucking 'happy clapper' but I can see us having a pretty good season with this squad of players. And if we don't and I am wrong then so be it.   


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: SpeakingFluentPeroni on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 10:42:13
Agree 100% about the divisiveness being draining and a real shame after the unity at the end of last season. Started at Harrogate with lads having heated arguments on the terraces and some idiots at Stockport too abusing Khan when he took a shot at the end. I sometimes find it more enjoyable to just not read this forum and go match by match without reading a weeks worth of negativity. Find the forum useful for info about players etc…though.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 10:44:51
Having the youngest team in the league could also be a factor.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: molepar on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 10:55:28
An unusual comment and reading other fans' comments it's a really strange time supporting Swindon at the moment. When fans have made up their mind very early that the management team aren't up for the job it's clearly going to take a monumental good run of form to change that and there is that strange mindset that possibly the team losing games is better long term as Clem and RA will have to replace SL. My own personal thought is that getting so many new squad members to gel and hit the ground running is a huge ask. Mistakes have been made for sure, pre-season wasn't used properly and to recruit a large number of players for a specific formation only to rip it up and try something different definitely is a red flag.

I find the divisiveness around the place tiresome personally, it's like American politics where there doesn't appear to be much middle ground. And now it appears that the Town End and Don Rogers stands are at each other's throats, the manager is giving vocal abuse to supporters, Angus MacDonald appears to be getting it in the neck. Last night was a mess of a game, no getting away from that. Maybe I am a fucking 'happy clapper' but I can see us having a pretty good season with this squad of players. And if we don't and I am wrong then so be it.   

I may have missed something but what is this about the manager giving vocal abuse to supporters?


Title: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 10:57:22
85 away fans was right from my  quick count (80-90)


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 10:57:27
When fans have made up their mind very early that the management team aren't up for the job it's clearly going to take a monumental good run of form to change that and there is that strange mindset that possibly the team losing games is better long term as Clem and RA will have to replace SL.  

I can't see it happening whatever happens, Garner got us to the play off's with a hastily gathered squad and those who thought he was shite and the wrong choice at the start of the season seemed little changed in their opinion of him at the end (albeit coincidentally they also seemed the most angry that he left us for Charlton).

Agree 100% about the divisiveness being draining and a real shame after the unity at the end of last season.

Was there unity at the end of last season, the perpetually pissed off seemed pretty pissed off then?


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 10:58:44
I may have missed something but what is this about the manager giving vocal abuse to supporters?

Lyndsey has just told a fan to ‘fuck off, you fat cunt’

This is going well!  :girlgiggle:


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 11:24:50
10th league game at home on a Tuesday evening unbeaten, 6 wins and 4 draws in a row.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 11:29:54
10th league game at home on a Tuesday evening unbeaten, 6 wins and 3 draws in a row.

That's 9?  :hmmm:


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 11:30:55
well done Vordervenkman 😁


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 11:38:20
That's 9?  :hmmm:
Yes cos I am a twat :)

I meant 6 wins 4 draws.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 11:41:21
Barrow will be falling foul of the EFL for failure to control players at full time.

What went on with the Barrow game? I was watching Swindon vs Sutton..


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 11:45:17
What went on with the Barrow game? I was watching Swindon vs Sutton..
No idea, nothing on BBC about it, Donny forum just suggest that they were shit, nothing about a fracas.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 11:50:16
Are the rumours of Lindsey calling a fan a fat cut etc true🤔


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: singingiiiffy on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 11:51:20
Its kind of weird that a win just convinced me more that Lindsey isn't the man to lead us forward, but here we are. Sutton were honestly atrocious and it seems that is the criteria needed for us to win games this season.

I already knew we had ability going forward despite the lack of goals, its obvious. But we cannot defend for shit. Totally hopeless and Lindsey doesn't show even the slightest signs of sorting it out.  The phrase papering over the cracks springs to mind.

Sutton were far from atrocious. Very rarely went long, set up brave and went for it. The amount of shite in this league they were far from bad and scored 2 good goals.

The defence has conceded 3 goals in the league 6 games btw


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 11:53:21
Are the rumours of Lindsey calling a fan a fat cut etc true🤔

http://thetownend.com/index.php?topic=59392.msg1701596#msg1701596


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 11:57:31
Top teams in this division or in football as a whole?

Football in general with Liverpool a good example. I just think too many coaches follow the trend when maybe it's not beet suited to the players that they have.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 11:58:34
http://thetownend.com/index.php?topic=59392.msg1701596#msg1701596

If it is true then he will never get the fans on his side.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 11:59:18
Are the rumours of Lindsey calling a fan a fat cut etc true🤔

It’s no rumour, I seen/heard it.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: theakston2k on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 12:13:22
It’s no rumour, I seen/heard it.
Whilst understandable from a human perspective when the manager or member of the coaching staff starts firing back at verbals it’s usually the beginning of the end. It just creates further divisions.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 12:14:29
10th league game at home on a Tuesday evening unbeaten, 6 wins and 4 draws in a row.
Didn’t we use to have a jinx re weekday evening games?

Anyway, 3 points at an out of sorts Donny would go some way to quelling any mutiny.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 12:18:22
What went on with the Barrow game? I was watching Swindon vs Sutton..

Talking of the Barrow game, this made me smile, https://twitter.com/jacknpeat/status/1569562920148770816

The fact that it appears to have been considerably cheaper to fly London - Dublin - Manchester and then train to Barrow rather than just train London - Barrow is mental!


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 12:19:39
Sutton were far from atrocious. Very rarely went long, set up brave and went for it. The amount of shite in this league they were far from bad and scored 2 good goals.

The defence has conceded 3 goals in the league 6 games btw

They were not atrocious - they helped make the game very watchable in the first half.  However, they are not going to challenge based on that performance.  They are typical League Two fodder - at the moment we don't look a whole lot better than that either but the good news is that small margins separate that group and those chasing the play offs.  I still think that is a failure of a season for our club, but it gives some hope.

Other than Leyton Orient and maybe Salford for a small period, nobody has looked that great against us.  We haven't looked much kop either, games have been close (we have looked the more likely to concede in more than the opposite being true, thus far).  The Harrogate second half aside, in all those other games we've not been outclassed, plus you get some Rochdales thrown in.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: DMC on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 12:20:25
Finally a win, 3 pts and a 90th min winner feels good, who cares how it comes 😂. Thought Jephcott shoulda scored both chances he had. First goal from them fully avoidable as per usual, 7 players on other side of pitch and just 1 on the goal scored side tells you why we conceded. Nice finish from Williams for the second. Darcy creative but got bullied yday, criminal letting that ball bounce twice for their second, right back shoulda done better also. Thought midfield was good and worked well together, Reed getting back to his best just keeping play moving (brilliant feet for third goal build up). Lavenier decent and Williams a standout, gotta play both forwards together now, make it work.. Wakeling looks a top find.

I’m not sold on Lindsey at all, but telling him to go mid game I find a little odd, keep it to end of game at least, we was drawing the game, performance wasn’t even that bad. Hope he did give it back to the fans and more, next time I hope he does a mourinho and knee slides, more than entitled to give it after he takes it. Brynn had no choice but to kick it out/king with how toxic it was. Baffles me with persist playing out with McDonald, when we have Baudry who’s one of the best passers in league from defence.
Spot on this is word for word


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 12:27:04
Didn’t we use to have a jinx re weekday evening games?

Anyway, 3 points at an out of sorts Donny would go some way to quelling any mutiny.
Absolutely.

Donny fans are like a carbon copy of a lot of our fans on their forum, lots of moaning even when they were winning and wanting rid of the manager, lifeless gutless performances etc.

Apparently they could easily have lost 5-0 at Barrow last night too.

From the Donny forum....
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Early results and performances have put us in a good place , but Mansfield showed how difficult L2 can be if your off the pace . Barrow away isn’t a good place to go when you’ve not played since . Performance tonight is worrying me that settled lower league sides know how to compete and it’s shows now that our young team is still learning and not paying attention !

This is absolute garbage from us tonight.
We look a long long way off a promotion side with this performance.
Not one attempt on goal 2nd half and it is now 82 mins gone.

Very worrying signs in the past 2 games that big problems still remain.

I think the first few games flattered us a little, very poor last two matches, think we'll level out a bit now.

Terrible performance, Barrow fully deserved the victory and could have scored 5. Something needs to change!!!

Not sure what McSheffrey says at half time but it’s obviously not having any effect . Our passion to grind out a result just seems to have evaporated. The games come thick and fast in League2 and you don’t get time to lick  your wounds before your being punished again !

Thanks to Barrow tonight. I actually really enjoyed watching them play. Organised, play with tempo, work hard, get players forward, move the ball quickly and create lots of chances. It isn't difficult Gary. Unlike us who play with Miller on his own and which will see us go nowhere in this league. Not a criticism of Miller. He's no chance dealing with long balls all on his own with pedestrian midfielders providing zero support.

Long struggled tonight,
Knoyle was the only player who played anything like tonight,
Big game on Saturday, need to stop the rot

Let's be honest, even after dropping a division performances haven't been good this season. Our luck has seemingly ran out and results are now catching up with us.
We're getting close to the 10 game milestone by which the season usually starts to settle down but I can't say I've really seen much to be encouraged about.
It's not time to panic just yet but we really need to be seeing significant improvements in our performances over the next few weeks.

Utterly clueless. Same performance as lat season and common denominator? A manager who is about an inspiring as my nan.

One relegation already with piss poor performances, do you all want to see performances like we have all season. Slow and boring and also what's worse....found out. 3-0 and 2-0 and battered in successive games. 5 goals in injury time to magic some points when we shouldn't have.
Utterly utterly dreadful and inept management, tactics and his itnerviews? Jesus, no wonder they come out half dead after half time.

We haven’t scored a goal in open play for 400 minutes.

We have the players just not the manager.

2 more games till the 10 game mark. If we are out the playoffs and there’s still no performance or sign that we will be better and I think there’s a decision to be made.

I watched on Ifollow and we were clueless from. back to front Williams cannot defend the midfield was non existent and Miller was once again on his own no support there was no structure at all the manager must take responsibility.

All i want is to not be completely dominated by Swindon for the first half an hour where they also take the lead. A familiar pattern at the Eco Power.
Sadly, you don't always get what you want.
Decent side are Swindon. I believe they have lost Harry McKirdy who i've always rated since he was at Carlisle so that is a bonus.
They haven't won away in the league this season in 4 and have scored 2 goals.

I see us winning this game. Every team has a period of losing a few games. It won’t be easy but if he makes a few changes, I see no reason why we can’t get three points.



Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 12:50:36
It’s no rumour, I seen/heard it.

Bizarrely I was looking at the TEF yesterday and a really old match day thread from 2009 at home to Southend United. There was a discussion about a group of fans (one of them was the Rick Wakeman lookalike) and one overweight gentleman in particular that basically spent the whole game abusing the players/manager etc. I wonder if it's the same gentleman in question?

We won that game against Southend as well.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 13:55:02
It’s no rumour, I seen/heard it.

Thanks for clarifying I wasn't sure if it was the usual forum gossip.

Based on what you witnessed he has to be careful not to react to fans winding him up as it will escalate quickly if results & performances deteriorate.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 14:46:48
Bizarrely I was looking at the TEF yesterday and a really old match day thread from 2009 at home to Southend United. There was a discussion about a group of fans (one of them was the Rick Wakeman lookalike) and one overweight gentleman in particular that basically spent the whole game abusing the players/manager etc. I wonder if it's the same gentleman in question?

We won that game against Southend as well.

Your description made me think I may have been heavily involved in that discussion, I was right :-)


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 15:03:24
I haven't see Rick-a-like for a bit. Was hobbling around last time but that was ages ago (last season).


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 15:07:07
Your description made me think I may have been heavily involved in that discussion, I was right :-)

Haha - you were indeed Rob. The other guy only posted about 25 times on here, but I noticed was loitering in the 'guest list' and I was curious as to whether he posted. Even though it was 13 years ago, there were similarities between that match day thread and the one from last night! :)


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: fuzzy on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 15:09:06
Any update on the Lavinier injury?


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 15:15:30
Not seen Rick Wakeman (Ernie) in years.
Used to be a regular on the Barnes coaches in the late 80's & in to the 90's.
That group became quite cynical during the McMahon years if not before. Back seat moaners.

Not sure what it's like on the coaches these days, but switching to independent travel has kept the away days as a fresh experience for me.


Title: Re: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Benzel on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 15:21:44
If it is true then he will never get the fans on his side.
It's got me well onside


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: fuzzy on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 15:37:53
Fans can be overly precious about staff giving as good as they get.

Imagine being on the receiving end of some of the bile spewed by elements of the faithful and having to hold your tongue.

Not easy, trust me.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 15:39:58
Fans can be overly precious about staff giving as good as they get.

Imagine being on the receiving end of some of the bile spewed by elements of the faithful and having to hold your tongue.

Not easy, trust me.

Eric Cantona didn't hold back😀


Title: Re: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 15:41:10
It's got me well onside

 :eek: :nod:


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: SpeakingFluentPeroni on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 15:41:42
Sometimes a moaning fat cunt needs to be told he’s a fat cunt :-)


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 15:44:07
I'm sure Evans will be told by many when Stevanage are in Town


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 15:56:22
Quote from: SpeakingFluentPeroni
Sometimes a moaning fat cunt needs to be told he’s a fat cunt :-)

are you my wife?


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: adje on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 16:01:10
I haven't see Rick-a-like for a bit. Was hobbling around last time but that was ages ago (last season).
I think he looks more like Rick Parfitt personally


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: adje on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 16:21:55
At the risk of repeating myself,has the opinion that Gladwin and Williams should not play in the same 11 been disproved? I think they are probably our 2 best footballers,although I know that's not a universally held opinion.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: oxonrobin on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 16:30:17
Thanks for clarifying I wasn't sure if it was the usual forum gossip.

Based on what you witnessed he has to be careful not to react to fans winding him up as it will escalate quickly if results & performances deteriorate.

Probably I’ll advised as you say, but don’t actually mind it. Lot more passion than you get from SL in the interviews. He would definitely benefit from some media training if we plan on having him around for long enough to be worthwhile!


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 16:35:14
Probably I’ll advised as you say, but don’t actually mind it. Lot more passion than you get from SL in the interviews. He would definitely benefit from some media training if we plan on having him around for long enough to be worthwhile!

Good point you make about the media training.


Title: Re: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Benzel on Wednesday, September 14, 2022, 17:08:58
Fans can be overly precious about staff giving as good as they get.

Imagine being on the receiving end of some of the bile spewed by elements of the faithful and having to hold your tongue.

Not easy, trust me.
And yet welcome oppo teams giving it back.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, September 15, 2022, 07:41:35
Rather have the chaos of Tuesday than the mind numbing shite of last Saturday.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, September 15, 2022, 07:56:04
I know people have mixed feelings on xG, but this was interesting to me at least:

https://twitter.com/xG_data/status/1569957807960506368/photo/2

Suggests a fairly even game chances wise and two goals (our first, their second) that were extremely unlikely to end in goals (ours keeper error, theirs just a stonking effort).


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat
Post by: Batch on Thursday, September 15, 2022, 08:08:30
closer than I thought

our first two goals were fortuitous, but I thought the jephcott chances would have us clear


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Pericardinho on Thursday, September 15, 2022, 08:20:02
The thing is though, you can call them fortuitous, which they were, but I see it as a reward for actually having a shot and putting the ball in the box.

Defenders and goalkeepers are shit at this level. They will make mistakes. We just need to give them the opportunity to fuck up. We won't do that by aimlessly passing it side to side. So tuesday night was progress for me.

 


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, September 15, 2022, 08:53:36
The thing is though, you can call them fortuitous, which they were, but I see it as a reward for actually having a shot and putting the ball in the box.

Defenders and goalkeepers are shit at this level. They will make mistakes. We just need to give them the opportunity to fuck up. We won't do that by aimlessly passing it side to side. So tuesday night was progress for me.

I don't think we disagree particularly here. Certainly L2 goalkeepers are more likely to make mistakes than higher division ones. It just shows the outcome bias we all have - at Gillingham we had 23 shots, but none of them went in so we all thought it was a disaster. xG for those two games was actually fairly similar (1.25 at Gillingham, 1.58 vs Sutton), we just got luckier in one game than the other - which happens, it's fine.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Thursday, September 15, 2022, 08:56:30
I don't think we disagree particularly here. Certainly L2 goalkeepers are more likely to make mistakes than higher division ones. It just shows the outcome bias we all have - at Gillingham we had 23 shots, but none of them went in so we all thought it was a disaster. xG for those two games was actually fairly similar (1.25 at Gillingham, 1.58 vs Sutton), we just got luckier in one game than the other - which happens, it's fine.

I heard Lindsey on the radio say we had around 56 entries into the Gillingham box and the ball was only in play for 51 minutes equating to more than one a minute!


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Pericardinho on Thursday, September 15, 2022, 09:01:18
I don't think we disagree particularly here. Certainly L2 goalkeepers are more likely to make mistakes than higher division ones. It just shows the outcome bias we all have - at Gillingham we had 23 shots, but none of them went in so we all thought it was a disaster. xG for those two games was actually fairly similar (1.25 at Gillingham, 1.58 vs Sutton), we just got luckier in one game than the other - which happens, it's fine.

But against Gillingham we didn't create enough scenarios where luck could become a factor. The ball hardly ever went into the box. It just went from side to side. Also our misses in that game weren't unlucky. A header from 6 yards and Jephcott firing over from point blank. Just shit finishing.

I do understand the point you are making but I saw those two games completely differently. XG is fine but requires context.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Kinky Tom on Thursday, September 15, 2022, 09:02:18
I heard Lindsey on the radio say we had around 56 entries into the Gillingham box and the ball was only in play for 51 minutes equating to more than one a minute!

What's your point?


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat
Post by: Batch on Thursday, September 15, 2022, 09:11:35
why : https://twitter.com/TrustSTFC/status/1570325279649976326?t=E6h7L4UpXl5pgzhGAFldHQ&s=19


The club have reported today that after Tuesdays game there was a lot of vandalism in the Town End of Seats and Toilets being broken. This is really unacceptable and is no way to support the club or team, it costs the club money.  If you see this report it to the club! #STFC


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, September 15, 2022, 09:17:06
why : https://twitter.com/TrustSTFC/status/1570325279649976326?t=E6h7L4UpXl5pgzhGAFldHQ&s=19


The club have reported today that after Tuesdays game there was a lot of vandalism in the Town End of Seats and Toilets being broken. This is really unacceptable and is no way to support the club or team, it costs the club money.  If you see this report it to the club! #STFC

Human beings in being dickheads shocker. One can only assume there is a line of thought behind this?


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, September 15, 2022, 09:18:17
Human beings in being dickheads shocker. One can only assume there is a line of thought behind this?

I suspect there are some lines behind it, but I don't know if they're thought-based.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Thursday, September 15, 2022, 09:22:08
Years ago you used to get vandalism inside the ground when both sets of fans clashed now you get it because they're cokesd out of their minds.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Berniman on Thursday, September 15, 2022, 10:46:00
I don't think we disagree particularly here. Certainly L2 goalkeepers are more likely to make mistakes than higher division ones. It just shows the outcome bias we all have - at Gillingham we had 23 shots, but none of them went in so we all thought it was a disaster. xG for those two games was actually fairly similar (1.25 at Gillingham, 1.58 vs Sutton), we just got luckier in one game than the other - which happens, it's fine.

Everyone (and certainly our management team) can get bogged down by stats to try to paint a different picture.  I base my opinion between the 2 games on one thing, what I watched.  The two games were similar in regards to the disjointed performance, but the difference was, and the reason why we managed to score 3 goals is that we got the ball into the box more often.  You make your own luck by getting the ball in or around the goal. We weren't unlucky not to score at Gillingham, we didn't look like scoring because we spent the game passing around midfield.  I would guess that the majority of those 23 shots, came from outside of the area and didn't get past the first man - it's not as if the Gills keeper was pulling off save after save, like Brynn was on Tuesday.

Sometimes you have to just call it as you see it because the stats just distort the reality.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Thursday, September 15, 2022, 11:02:19
We create nothing from corners & set pieces and can't remember the last time a centre half scored a header from one.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Berniman on Thursday, September 15, 2022, 11:28:26
Baudry towards the end of last season, also Conroy scored at least one from a corner last season (against Shezza) that I can remember.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Thursday, September 15, 2022, 11:32:00
Cheers Bernie, although two recent examples nothing like we were used to years ago.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat
Post by: 4D on Thursday, September 15, 2022, 18:10:29
why : https://twitter.com/TrustSTFC/status/1570325279649976326?t=E6h7L4UpXl5pgzhGAFldHQ&s=19


The club have reported today that after Tuesdays game there was a lot of vandalism in the Town End of Seats and Toilets being broken. This is really unacceptable and is no way to support the club or team, it costs the club money.  If you see this report it to the club! #STFC

Not me.
Fucking idiots.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: THE FLASH on Friday, September 16, 2022, 08:45:29
A well needed result!


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: donkey on Friday, September 16, 2022, 14:03:36
We create nothing from corners & set pieces and can't remember the last time a centre half scored a header from one.

OST... those were the days.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, September 16, 2022, 14:50:43
OST... those were the days.

Exactly before football got complicated!


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: JBZ on Friday, September 16, 2022, 17:30:41
Exactly before football got complicated!

Not really. The fundamental concepts haven't changed.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, September 16, 2022, 17:39:28
Not really. The fundamental concepts haven't changed.

Fundamentals are the same but the coaches methods are different.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: JBZ on Friday, September 16, 2022, 17:45:46
Fundamentals are the same but the coaches methods are different.

Some keep it very simple- I understand that shezzzzzzzzzzz is an example of this.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Friday, September 16, 2022, 17:52:42
Some keep it very simple- I understand that shezzzzzzzzzzz is an example of this.

Very true but possession football seems to be the In thing these days with very few teams doing their own thing.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: RobertT on Friday, September 16, 2022, 18:39:53
Some keep it very simple- I understand that shezzzzzzzzzzz is an example of this.

There is a difference between dictating a simple style of football to extract maximum benefit from your team vs. just being simple.  Shouting at players because they can't pass a ball as well you could when you played is not really helping anyone - "Payney, get it on fucking target" being one of his pearls of wisdom.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Steak supper on Friday, September 16, 2022, 18:42:18
Shouting at players because they can't pass a ball as well you could when you played is not really helping anyone - "Payney, get it on fucking target" being one of his pearls of wisdom.

if my memory is still working, PDC was a bit like that


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: RedRag on Friday, September 16, 2022, 19:39:19
My own unreliable recollection is that Paolo required his players to follow instructions very closely.  More than to be skilful or not.

Otherwise substitution or fists would surely follow.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Posh Red on Saturday, September 17, 2022, 08:51:16
My own unreliable recollection is that Paolo required his players to follow instructions very closely.  More than to be skilful or not.

Otherwise substitution or fists would surely follow.

Yep, and most of the managers following Paolo were slated for not showing enough passion for not doing the same.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: oxonrobin on Saturday, September 17, 2022, 12:52:45
I think Paolo was probably the highest ever on the control freak end of the manager spectrum. Wonder how he and McKirdy would have got on.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 17, 2022, 12:58:07
I think Paolo was probably the highest ever on the control freak end of the manager spectrum. Wonder how he and McKirdy would have got on.
They wouldn't! simple!

Paolo would have hoofed him out of the door early on I am sure! much like he did with that Orient striker Tehouie and Leon Clarke, not known for his patience was Paolo!


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: DiV on Saturday, September 17, 2022, 13:01:18
They wouldn't! simple!

Paolo would have hoofed him out of the door early on I am sure! much like he did with that Orient striker Tehouie and Leon Clarke, not known for his patience was Paolo!

You say that….however.

The most like McKirdy from a personality point of view would be one Simon Ferry - who PDC originally didn’t have much faith in but Ferry won  him over and was a regular player under PDC (a fucking good one too)

Of course whilst both big personalities Ferry & McKirdy aren’t exactly the same.



Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 17, 2022, 13:04:01
That is true, Ferry was a bit of a wildcard.



Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat
Post by: Batch on Monday, September 19, 2022, 16:08:27
"Lavinier has done a little bit of training today, but Tuesday will be too soon for him." (Monday 19th)

Amazed he's trained a bit  as he looked proper stuffed on Tuesday


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat and matchday thread 22/23
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, September 19, 2022, 16:51:57
"Lavinier has done a little bit of training today, but Tuesday will be too soon for him." (Monday 19th)

Amazed he's trained a bit  as he looked proper stuffed on Tuesday
Pre game on Saturday (the Thurs/Friday exclusive pre match with the BBC I think) Lindsey said he hoped Lavinier would be fit enough to have played a part at Doncaster.

It was obvious that was a bit premature but it proves it wasn't too bad an injury, it looked way worse the way he was carried down the tunnel.


Title: Re: Swindon Town v Sutton United pre match chat
Post by: Batch on Monday, September 19, 2022, 18:06:50
ah I missed that. good news