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The honeymoon period is well and truly over.

Things could turn toxic with a loss.

The 5-6k hardcore fans may again become the norm.

Give it a fucking rest will you

He’s had over a week on the training ground now so all excuses are gone. Anything less than a win will be a poor result.

Lindsey needs to start winning games, that’s all that matters to the majority of supporters. If we don’t win tomorrow he’s going to find it increasingly difficult to convince people that he is the right man for the job.

But you've been so supportive until now

"support is earned" an interesting concept. Not sure how my support of STFC was "earned". My dad took me when I was 10 and that was it!

Support is earned not a given, especially if you already don’t see him as the right person for the job. There’s been very little to support, his reign started off shambolic and very little has improved to date.

Tomorrow needs to see a significant improvement, if there isn’t after he’s had a week on the training ground to get his ideas across then it’s not a great sign.

Relentless misery.

😂⚽️

This is what the bloke is up against. What a weird way to look at it, how are you even going to Swindon Town matches with that thought process? 

Things could turn quite toxic with a loss. True or false?

If things continue the way they are results wise, our crowds could become similar to that of the power era. Just my opinion. No need to be upset.

I think support for the club is a very different beast than support for those individuals who pass through the club from time to time.  The former is, as DV points out, like a drug addiction.  The latter is far more reasoned, mostly.

I don't see it turning toxic if we lose this, but it wouldn't be too much longer.  I think there still remains quite a bit of goodwill and wanting for things to be good.  Also, while Lindsey may not have been a name, he also wasn't known, so people will give those types a bit longer to prove themselves.

This is what the bloke is up against. What a weird way to look at it, how are you even going to Swindon Town matches with that thought process?  

What’s weird about it? I support the STFC not an individual, we are in L2 FFS there should be a minimum expectation on the shoulders of a manager and so far Lindsey hasn’t met that for me. I’m not going to blindly support someone who I believe so far has done a poor job.

Also, I don’t think its weird to expect a massive improvement after he’s had over a week on the training ground to get his way of playing drilled into the players. If this uninterrupted time on the training ground doesn’t allow him to show a significant improvement then what actually will?

I find it weird that by your logic you refuse to support a coach until he has proved himself to you. I find that weird

Now I find that weird.  I never liked King and hated Sheridan.  I can't imagine supporting either, but STFC is completely different, no matter how badly they treat me.

I wasn't on about the club though, i find it crazy that someone will not want to support the manager when we appoint one. I understand a manager losing the support of fans but to not even ever have it is weird

There are always some "told you so" and some "told you to wait and see".

Thats human nature, some fans are half full glasses, some half empty glasses.

For me I didn't want Lindsey I thought he was a weak appointment but I am willing to give him time as I feel this is way too early to be sacking him, but the football has been way less than inspiring so far. There seems a poor use of subs and the tactics, at times, seems almost non existant.

I do see improvements though but probably not fast enough for many fans.

I guess I am just more patient than most and try to see the best and try to not dwell so much on the poorer aspects.

Relentless misery.

😂⚽️

Theatre of the Absurd at times.

Still more good than bad though in approaching 45 years of support that was never earned.
I'll take that.

a badge of dishonour

They say the opposite of love is indifference. I fear I am heading down that road.

I am more interested in My Fantasy Draft team than I am STFC at the moment.

A season of mediocracy in League 2 is not getting my juices flowing anymore I'm afraid.   :no:

They say the opposite of love is indifference. I fear I am heading down that road.

I am more interested in My Fantasy Draft team than I am STFC at the moment.

A season of mediocracy in League 2 is not getting my juices flowing anymore I'm afraid.   :no:

They say the opposite of love is indifference. I fear I am heading down that road.

I am more interested in My Fantasy Draft team than I am STFC at the moment.

A season of mediocracy in League 2 is not getting my juices flowing anymore I'm afraid.   :no:

How do you know it's going to be a season of mediocrity? It's still early. It could, of course, be something far worse than that😁

A win would be grand.

A win would be grand.

Ah bollocks, on my way.

I have to say that although I’m prepared to give Mr. Lyndsey more time than most it, would seem to me that today is kind of a must win game. Should we not win I hope there are no ‘the lads are/were fatigued’ type excuses.

I fear that even if we win 5-0 tonight that may not be enough for some fans who have already made their mind up on SL and would say we were lucky to not lose.

Not that we will win by 5 goals, but I think many fans have already tarred him in preparation no matter what happens.

I hope he can change our fortunes round soon.

Me too. I’m ambivalent on who has the managers hot seat as long as the footy is decent and the results favourable.

Wondering if he's injured as he wasn't when they played a week Saturday ago.

Expecting your first lineup PV. Harsh on Wakeling imho but hope Shade shows a bit more of what he did in the cup game tonight

Probable formation -

                    Brynn
Lavinier  Macdonald    Clayton   Blake-Tracey
       Gladwin       Reed         Darcy    
 Shade             Jephcott          Williams

or

                    Brynn
Lavinier  Macdonald    Clayton   Blake-Tracey
Darcy        Gladwin       Reed           Williams
             Shade             Jephcott        

Steve Hale on comms this evening zzzzz

Hale breaks the game down well and speaks ok, far better than Dave Hockaday!

Agreed but where's your mate!

He never does home games, only in lockdown :)

Is Vic Morgan from Swindon even though he lives in Devon as I've known of him since the early 80's

Quite excited to see Roberts off the bench. Good feeling about him (although I have a good feeling about every signing we make from non-league).

Malmesbury and Swindon originally.

Still think that starting XI goes into a 4231 better than a 433

Just logged in and was cursing the ifollow app for the sound not working... during the minutes silence  :eek:

Bastarding iFollow already kicked me out twice and we haven't kicked off yet.

2 sitters in 2 games so far then!

TBF I dont think he knew much about last weeks chance and that header was a good save by their keeper.

Swindon v Sutton

P3 W3 D0 L0 F6 A3.

Every game vs Sutton that the Town have played has ended 2-1 to Swindon.

Lets keep that up today.

It’s still on thanks to Brynn

I'm not rabid Lynsey out but the issues with this team are so clearly systems rather than talent based that I don't know that there's much other choice.

If your in the crowd and shouting “SHOOOOOOT”. Then you’re a bellend

The only bellend is not attending.

Can we have 21-22 Reed back?

Kizzi and their number 6 need booking, regardless. Trying to drag our mortally wounded Angus off his arse

Kizzi and their number 6 need booking, regardless. Trying to drag our mortally wounded Angus off his arse

Kizzi and their number 6 need booking, regardless. Trying to drag our mortally wounded Angus off his arse

MacDonald being a bit of a cunt there for my money. Started a fight and then took an enormous dive to try and get Bugiel sent off.

I don't get what Bugiel's defence was holding his nose, very odd

Shade looks incredible. A proper confident guy who can control the ball at a stand still, do a neat body swerve and make space.
But then that space is wasted as he doesn't seem capable of passing or crossing.
I'd like him to try and

As I was righting this he "megged" the keeper ffs

Shade looks incredible. A proper confident guy who can control the ball at a stand still, do a neat body swerve and make space.
But then that space is wasted as he doesn't seem capable of passing or crossing.
I'd like him to try and take the ball on the run

As I was righting this he "megged" the keeper ffs

Jeffers has missed three half chances in 45 mins of game time

Both teams have been on the piss, right?

Shade playing shit today, given the ball away more than hes found a Town player.

Extremely league 2 this.

Could you post about how shit Jephs looks tonight please and see if it works again!

Our right back has been hopeless.

Our right back has been hopeless.

Honestly Lavinier doesn’t look like he’s played football before.

He hasn't player "proper football" before.

Honestly Lavinier doesn’t look like he’s played football before.

I don't recall this Randall chap ever playing for us.

I don't recall this Randall chap ever playing for us.

We took the money!

Interesting that he's is shit tonight, I thought that he was very assured on his debut.
It sounds like Randall is on one tonight, so Livinier may have found his level against him.

Where's the money clem? ;)

Didn’t we get a good amount of money for Randell?

Again, Williams flopping to the floor at every opportunity is a bit tiresome

£250k rising to £500k I think to Wolves.

Except it rose like pancake.

It was a long time ago

I know, was being a tit

I know it is actually a valid reason, but hearing our Manager explaining a loan move because it means the player will get some long trips on a coach is surely a first, in football, ever.

Williams and Jephcott doing well for me, Jeffy is obviously a bit off matchday fitness understandably, but Darcy is being pushed off the ball all the time and is the wrong choice.

Khan should be on to replace him, also I would get Wakeling on for Shade who other than scoring hasn't done much and push Williams to the left as he looks wasted on the right.

Roberts could be a wild card later this half when Williams is tiring.

Jephcott reminds me of a previous Swindon striker.  My head keeps telling me it was Mutch, but I may be thinking of someone with a similar running style more recently?

7,500 (85 Suttons).

Swindon 1 Sutton 1 Att: 7,590  (away 88)

Nearly😀

0-0 in front of 7,489 with 95 Suttoners there.

And me.

How can Hawes keep mistaking Darcy for Williams?

Never mind Garnerball, this is Chaosball.

Chaos is too refined a word.

Chaos descending into farce.

Fans getting restless

Orange card for Lavinier there.

Another good defensive header by MacDonald, how can he do the difficult stuff well but struggle with the simple things?

You give him something to defend and he will defend, you ask him to think about things and do the smart stuff and he struggles - that's how I see it anyway

You are probably right, give him the ball at his feet and ask him to pass to a town player and he struggles.

I played with lots of defenders like that at grass roots - ask them to win every header and smash every tackle and they will literally put their bodies on the line - ask them to relax with the ball at their feet and play simple balls to feet or in the channels and they turn into Taylor Curran.

It worked for Shaun Taylor

Hush your mouth..

TBF Taylor admitted before he worked with Hoddle nobody had ever taught him how to actually pass a ball in his career.

Lyndsey has just told a fan to ‘fuck off, you fat cunt’

This is going well!  :girlgiggle:

Hawes said "he will be interested to see how the crowd react if it finishes 2-2"

I do like how we're getting people in the box today. On another day and another layer of chaos we could've won this

This game is like Boris Johnsons hair, scruffy but at times with a great comedy value.

Williams my MotM today hes chased everything.

Did we deserve that?

Well Sutton had been playing for the draw for some time.

 There's your answer, imo.

They did what we've often got annoyed at Town for doing - stopping doing something that was working in favour of trying to sit on the current scoreline. I'm sure it must work or managers wouldn't keep doing it, but it really does seem to backfire more often than not.

Impossible not to like Wakeling. Plays with energy, desire and enthusiasm. Didn't know he had that sort of finish in his locker. Him and Jephcott forming a partnership could turn us from an average side into a half decent one.

Impossible not to like Wakeling. Plays with energy, desire and enthusiasm. Didn't know he had that sort of finish in his locker. Him and Jephcott forming a partnership could turn us from an average side into a half decent one.

Not sure we have the players else where to play a formation with 2 up top.

Anyway, how much do you think we’ll get for Wakeling in January?

We started the season 5-3-2, and Lindsay has said a few times that we might go back to it. It is tricky because those two feel like they'd work as a pair, but not sure the wing backs shape worked when we tried it before.

Not sure I’ve ever come away from a game unhappy that we won. Masks how inept Lindsay really is.

Why were people surprised Jethcott came off after 60mins? He’s working his way up to full fitness so wasn’t a surprise him coming off at all. Our medical team do a fantastic job and this is all part of the process. Given another game on Sat then he probably will get 60-70 there too

Rowe seriously looking for a fight with Macdonald. Needing to be held back.

No idea what the Town End were on moaning/chanting about those subs.

Jephcott you've covered.

Darcy was getting bullied out of it.

If we are going to have a shit season that's the way I would like us to play.

Was quite a decent viewing tbh. I see comments like Sutton are shit but it was quite the positive set up for an away side and they worked sol brynn quite a lot. Fantastic hit from randall 2nd goal.

I'd say first half Williams won us the match, 2nd half macdonald stopped us losing the match.

brynn is becoming a bit of the norm now with his outstanding saves. He's like Digby throwing himself to those top corners.

last season we very rarely won a game through our substitutions where as this season they are making a very notable difference.

Jefcott is a very clever striker and goals will easily come for him. Not quite sure how he didn't get on the scoresheet but I have no worries going forward.

Darcy is a very clever and tidy player, got caught out a couple of times taking too long and nearly cost us. His positive play outweighs the bad easily.

iv been very dismissive of Lindseys appointment more than of lindsey himself. You can tell he is raw but you can see how he's a good bloke and desperate to do well. It's much much easier to hate a Phil brown or a Sheridan than an honest guy doing his best. Let's hope we can build on this going forward.

The county ground perfectly observed 90 minutes of silence for the Queen tonight. that was the plan right?

The TE some right twats tonight and fair play for the DR turning on them.
Clueless and unbelievable they couldn’t see that Jephcott is not fully match fit.

A little unsettled in defence but some positives to take from that.
Much better moving forward, far more pace.
Gladwin outstanding and Williams a real shift.
Managed to thank Wardy before the game and wish him all the best, appeared appreciative.

A win is a win and on to Donny.

Play like that against better sides, even in this division, and we'll be punished more often than not and end up 17th.

Stick this in the trivial things that annoy you thread.

I hate this phrase especially after a victory. Town usually play their best against the best and save their worst for the worst so it never makes any sense to me.

The TE some right twats tonight and fair play for the DR turning on them.
Clueless and unbelievable they couldn’t see that Jephcott is not fully match fit.

A little unsettled in defence but some positives to take from that.
Much better moving forward, far more pace.
Gladwin outstanding and Williams a real shift.
Managed to thank Wardy before the game and wish him all the best, appeared appreciative.

A win is a win and on to Donny.

There will be some in the TE devastated that we won tonight. Shocking “support”. As Duke mentioned good from the DR who sang “you don’t know what you’re doing” and “Town end what’s the score” :D

3 points and into Saturday, up the bastard reds

The shocking "support" has always been the side stands. Silent again. The subs booing was muted and not just the TE. The main grumblings from the Town End was the ridiculous set up for our goal kick routine.

The subs booing was muted. The chanting of 'Scott Lindsey, you don't have a clue' when he'd just subbed off a player who was obviously not fully fit was loud, clear and coming from the TE. Think that's what's being referred to.

The shocking "support" has always been the side stands. Silent again. The subs booing was muted and not just the TE. The main grumblings from the Town End was the ridiculous set up for our goal kick routine.

And look what happened after the Town End booing caused Brynn to kick long instead of playing it short....kicked it out of play twice in a row.

And look what happened after the Town End booing caused Brynn to kick long instead of playing it short....kicked it out of play twice in a row.

Both goals conceded were avoidable

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rdy03TzJuk (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rdy03TzJuk)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ0P9546HeE (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ0P9546HeE)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bZU8vnCz34Y (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bZU8vnCz34Y)

Playing out is a risky strategy but there are benefits if it works.
Trouble is, not sure that it's a style suited for L2 CB's.

A lot of top teams don't play out from the back so maybe work on something different if it's not working.

A lot of top teams don't play out from the back so maybe work on something different if it's not working.

Some of the Swindon fans really aren't helping their team, getting on their case..

A bit frustrated too be honest! Another late goal conceded when we should of got a draw. Swindon were nothing special. The pluses were will Randall with two goals and joe kizzi for me, grate defender

Thought Swindon looked good with the ball first half but defensively awful. We could have scored a couple more. Eastmond also had a great chance early in the 2nd half. We conceded some bad goals and again small margins left us defeated on the road. But we can’t give goals away like we did and come away with points. Again they announced a silly away figure.

Came out of the blocks fast and should have scored more than one when Swindon netted their first followed quickly by their second.
Surprised Omar stayed on and then we get overrun in midfield Harry and Craig and everyone in the team working hard to try and get the ball. We get back into the game but you can only soak up pressure for so long and we conceded in added time yet again.

close game could have gone either way, Randall is our magic man, absolute quality. We probably sat back to much in the final 5-10mins looking happiest with the draw. Our defence looked unusually shaky, and it cost 2 goals, poor old Jack these things happen to keepers.

Well that was a bit frustrating. To be honest, Swindon were better than Crewe and peppered us for a while in the first half. That first half however contained not only some of the best football I've seen us play this season, but was really entertaining stuff.

Although at least 2 of the 3 goals we could do nothing about, for me the entire team changed with the triple subsitution. At that point the side seemed to lose direction

It was an entertaining game to watch and Johnny Williams was absolute quality.

Oh, and there was more than 85 of us there. They don't seem to count purchases on the day!

There was a definite sense of double déjà vu at the final whistle as once again we lose to Swindon and concede after the 90th minute.

Swindon are a decent side (if not perhaps quite the sum of their parts), and losing narrowly at the County Ground is no disgrace, but the manner of this defeat was disappointing. They take 11th place from us, though we only slip to 12th. Our next two league games are at home where results have been pretty good so far.

On a side note, I hopped off the bus on Corporation Street as I couldn't be arsed to go to the bus station and back into a queue. I walked up one of the alleys. Jeez, there was a lot of shite dumped up there. Mattresses, sofas, and general crap. Looked very run down.

Not sure I’ve ever come away from a game unhappy that we won. Masks how inept Lindsay really is.

An unusual comment and reading other fans' comments it's a really strange time supporting Swindon at the moment. When fans have made up their mind very early that the management team aren't up for the job it's clearly going to take a monumental good run of form to change that and there is that strange mindset that possibly the team losing games is better long term as Clem and RA will have to replace SL. My own personal thought is that getting so many new squad members to gel and hit the ground running is a huge ask. Mistakes have been made for sure, pre-season wasn't used properly and to recruit a large number of players for a specific formation only to rip it up and try something different definitely is a red flag.

I find the divisiveness around the place tiresome personally, it's like American politics where there doesn't appear to be much middle ground. And now it appears that the Town End and Don Rogers stands are at each other's throats, the manager is giving vocal abuse to supporters, Angus MacDonald appears to be getting it in the neck. Last night was a mess of a game, no getting away from that. Maybe I am a fucking 'happy clapper' but I can see us having a pretty good season with this squad of players. And if we don't and I am wrong then so be it.   

When fans have made up their mind very early that the management team aren't up for the job it's clearly going to take a monumental good run of form to change that and there is that strange mindset that possibly the team losing games is better long term as Clem and RA will have to replace SL.  

Agree 100% about the divisiveness being draining and a real shame after the unity at the end of last season.

I may have missed something but what is this about the manager giving vocal abuse to supporters?

Lyndsey has just told a fan to ‘fuck off, you fat cunt’

This is going well!  :girlgiggle:

10th league game at home on a Tuesday evening unbeaten, 6 wins and 3 draws in a row.

That's 9?  :hmmm:

Barrow will be falling foul of the EFL for failure to control players at full time.

What went on with the Barrow game? I was watching Swindon vs Sutton..

Its kind of weird that a win just convinced me more that Lindsey isn't the man to lead us forward, but here we are. Sutton were honestly atrocious and it seems that is the criteria needed for us to win games this season.

I already knew we had ability going forward despite the lack of goals, its obvious. But we cannot defend for shit. Totally hopeless and Lindsey doesn't show even the slightest signs of sorting it out.  The phrase papering over the cracks springs to mind.

Are the rumours of Lindsey calling a fan a fat cut etc true🤔

Top teams in this division or in football as a whole?

http://thetownend.com/index.php?topic=59392.msg1701596#msg1701596

Are the rumours of Lindsey calling a fan a fat cut etc true🤔

It’s no rumour, I seen/heard it.

10th league game at home on a Tuesday evening unbeaten, 6 wins and 4 draws in a row.

What went on with the Barrow game? I was watching Swindon vs Sutton..

Sutton were far from atrocious. Very rarely went long, set up brave and went for it. The amount of shite in this league they were far from bad and scored 2 good goals.

The defence has conceded 3 goals in the league 6 games btw

Finally a win, 3 pts and a 90th min winner feels good, who cares how it comes 😂. Thought Jephcott shoulda scored both chances he had. First goal from them fully avoidable as per usual, 7 players on other side of pitch and just 1 on the goal scored side tells you why we conceded. Nice finish from Williams for the second. Darcy creative but got bullied yday, criminal letting that ball bounce twice for their second, right back shoulda done better also. Thought midfield was good and worked well together, Reed getting back to his best just keeping play moving (brilliant feet for third goal build up). Lavenier decent and Williams a standout, gotta play both forwards together now, make it work.. Wakeling looks a top find.

I’m not sold on Lindsey at all, but telling him to go mid game I find a little odd, keep it to end of game at least, we was drawing the game, performance wasn’t even that bad. Hope he did give it back to the fans and more, next time I hope he does a mourinho and knee slides, more than entitled to give it after he takes it. Brynn had no choice but to kick it out/king with how toxic it was. Baffles me with persist playing out with McDonald, when we have Baudry who’s one of the best passers in league from defence.

Didn’t we use to have a jinx re weekday evening games?

Anyway, 3 points at an out of sorts Donny would go some way to quelling any mutiny.

Early results and performances have put us in a good place , but Mansfield showed how difficult L2 can be if your off the pace . Barrow away isn’t a good place to go when you’ve not played since . Performance tonight is worrying me that settled lower league sides know how to compete and it’s shows now that our young team is still learning and not paying attention !

This is absolute garbage from us tonight.
We look a long long way off a promotion side with this performance.
Not one attempt on goal 2nd half and it is now 82 mins gone.

Very worrying signs in the past 2 games that big problems still remain.

I think the first few games flattered us a little, very poor last two matches, think we'll level out a bit now.

Terrible performance, Barrow fully deserved the victory and could have scored 5. Something needs to change!!!

Not sure what McSheffrey says at half time but it’s obviously not having any effect . Our passion to grind out a result just seems to have evaporated. The games come thick and fast in League2 and you don’t get time to lick  your wounds before your being punished again !

Thanks to Barrow tonight. I actually really enjoyed watching them play. Organised, play with tempo, work hard, get players forward, move the ball quickly and create lots of chances. It isn't difficult Gary. Unlike us who play with Miller on his own and which will see us go nowhere in this league. Not a criticism of Miller. He's no chance dealing with long balls all on his own with pedestrian midfielders providing zero support.

Long struggled tonight,
Knoyle was the only player who played anything like tonight,
Big game on Saturday, need to stop the rot

Let's be honest, even after dropping a division performances haven't been good this season. Our luck has seemingly ran out and results are now catching up with us.
We're getting close to the 10 game milestone by which the season usually starts to settle down but I can't say I've really seen much to be encouraged about.
It's not time to panic just yet but we really need to be seeing significant improvements in our performances over the next few weeks.

Utterly clueless. Same performance as lat season and common denominator? A manager who is about an inspiring as my nan.

One relegation already with piss poor performances, do you all want to see performances like we have all season. Slow and boring and also what's worse....found out. 3-0 and 2-0 and battered in successive games. 5 goals in injury time to magic some points when we shouldn't have.
Utterly utterly dreadful and inept management, tactics and his itnerviews? Jesus, no wonder they come out half dead after half time.

We haven’t scored a goal in open play for 400 minutes.

We have the players just not the manager.

2 more games till the 10 game mark. If we are out the playoffs and there’s still no performance or sign that we will be better and I think there’s a decision to be made.

I watched on Ifollow and we were clueless from. back to front Williams cannot defend the midfield was non existent and Miller was once again on his own no support there was no structure at all the manager must take responsibility.

All i want is to not be completely dominated by Swindon for the first half an hour where they also take the lead. A familiar pattern at the Eco Power.
Sadly, you don't always get what you want.
Decent side are Swindon. I believe they have lost Harry McKirdy who i've always rated since he was at Carlisle so that is a bonus.
They haven't won away in the league this season in 4 and have scored 2 goals.

I see us winning this game. Every team has a period of losing a few games. It won’t be easy but if he makes a few changes, I see no reason why we can’t get three points.

It’s no rumour, I seen/heard it.

It’s no rumour, I seen/heard it.

Bizarrely I was looking at the TEF yesterday and a really old match day thread from 2009 at home to Southend United. There was a discussion about a group of fans (one of them was the Rick Wakeman lookalike) and one overweight gentleman in particular that basically spent the whole game abusing the players/manager etc. I wonder if it's the same gentleman in question?

We won that game against Southend as well.

Your description made me think I may have been heavily involved in that discussion, I was right :-)

If it is true then he will never get the fans on his side.

Fans can be overly precious about staff giving as good as they get.

Imagine being on the receiving end of some of the bile spewed by elements of the faithful and having to hold your tongue.

Not easy, trust me.

It's got me well onside

Sometimes a moaning fat cunt needs to be told he’s a fat cunt :-)

I haven't see Rick-a-like for a bit. Was hobbling around last time but that was ages ago (last season).

Thanks for clarifying I wasn't sure if it was the usual forum gossip.

Based on what you witnessed he has to be careful not to react to fans winding him up as it will escalate quickly if results & performances deteriorate.

Probably I’ll advised as you say, but don’t actually mind it. Lot more passion than you get from SL in the interviews. He would definitely benefit from some media training if we plan on having him around for long enough to be worthwhile!

Fans can be overly precious about staff giving as good as they get.

Imagine being on the receiving end of some of the bile spewed by elements of the faithful and having to hold your tongue.

Not easy, trust me.

The thing is though, you can call them fortuitous, which they were, but I see it as a reward for actually having a shot and putting the ball in the box.

Defenders and goalkeepers are shit at this level. They will make mistakes. We just need to give them the opportunity to fuck up. We won't do that by aimlessly passing it side to side. So tuesday night was progress for me.

I don't think we disagree particularly here. Certainly L2 goalkeepers are more likely to make mistakes than higher division ones. It just shows the outcome bias we all have - at Gillingham we had 23 shots, but none of them went in so we all thought it was a disaster. xG for those two games was actually fairly similar (1.25 at Gillingham, 1.58 vs Sutton), we just got luckier in one game than the other - which happens, it's fine.

I don't think we disagree particularly here. Certainly L2 goalkeepers are more likely to make mistakes than higher division ones. It just shows the outcome bias we all have - at Gillingham we had 23 shots, but none of them went in so we all thought it was a disaster. xG for those two games was actually fairly similar (1.25 at Gillingham, 1.58 vs Sutton), we just got luckier in one game than the other - which happens, it's fine.

I heard Lindsey on the radio say we had around 56 entries into the Gillingham box and the ball was only in play for 51 minutes equating to more than one a minute!

why : https://twitter.com/TrustSTFC/status/1570325279649976326?t=E6h7L4UpXl5pgzhGAFldHQ&s=19


The club have reported today that after Tuesdays game there was a lot of vandalism in the Town End of Seats and Toilets being broken. This is really unacceptable and is no way to support the club or team, it costs the club money.  If you see this report it to the club! #STFC

Human beings in being dickheads shocker. One can only assume there is a line of thought behind this?

I don't think we disagree particularly here. Certainly L2 goalkeepers are more likely to make mistakes than higher division ones. It just shows the outcome bias we all have - at Gillingham we had 23 shots, but none of them went in so we all thought it was a disaster. xG for those two games was actually fairly similar (1.25 at Gillingham, 1.58 vs Sutton), we just got luckier in one game than the other - which happens, it's fine.

why : https://twitter.com/TrustSTFC/status/1570325279649976326?t=E6h7L4UpXl5pgzhGAFldHQ&s=19


The club have reported today that after Tuesdays game there was a lot of vandalism in the Town End of Seats and Toilets being broken. This is really unacceptable and is no way to support the club or team, it costs the club money.  If you see this report it to the club! #STFC

We create nothing from corners & set pieces and can't remember the last time a centre half scored a header from one.

OST... those were the days.

Exactly before football got complicated!

Not really. The fundamental concepts haven't changed.

Fundamentals are the same but the coaches methods are different.

Some keep it very simple- I understand that shezzzzzzzzzzz is an example of this.

Some keep it very simple- I understand that shezzzzzzzzzzz is an example of this.

Shouting at players because they can't pass a ball as well you could when you played is not really helping anyone - "Payney, get it on fucking target" being one of his pearls of wisdom.

My own unreliable recollection is that Paolo required his players to follow instructions very closely.  More than to be skilful or not.

Otherwise substitution or fists would surely follow.

I think Paolo was probably the highest ever on the control freak end of the manager spectrum. Wonder how he and McKirdy would have got on.

They wouldn't! simple!

Paolo would have hoofed him out of the door early on I am sure! much like he did with that Orient striker Tehouie and Leon Clarke, not known for his patience was Paolo!

"Lavinier has done a little bit of training today, but Tuesday will be too soon for him." (Monday 19th)

Amazed he's trained a bit  as he looked proper stuffed on Tuesday