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Title: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: singingiiiffy on Monday, June 20, 2022, 16:01:52
discuss


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Nemo on Monday, June 20, 2022, 16:02:30
Assuming Marshall is still going with Garner, seems like he'll need an assistant or two.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: JoeMezz on Monday, June 20, 2022, 16:03:50
Very very uninspired but have been with Wellens and Garner appointments. Let’s see who we manage to bring in to see how competitive we are. Has my support but this seems like a poor option


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Monday, June 20, 2022, 16:05:23
Fine by me.
Welcome to the roller coaster Scott, or should that be welcome back?

Continuity is good.
He would have been in prime position to take the mental "wouldn't have done it like that Ben" notes.
Some good recruitment coupled with doing it a bit better than Garner & we should be fine.

If the behind the scenes setup is right then a head coach isn't necessarily the main cog in the machine with this type of model these days.

Maybe the mentality of fans needs to change vis a vis traditional manager v head coach scenario? Don't know.

One overriding view that won't change is, Scott, whatever you do, don't fuck it up.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, June 20, 2022, 16:06:57
Please Scott at least dont make the defenders piss around fannying about with the ball when sometimes a hoof into touch will be the better option rather than passing it between 2 statues or a short ball back to the goalkeeper putting him under pressure.

Otherwise as you were.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Quagmire on Monday, June 20, 2022, 16:07:21
3 year contract!! Fucking hell.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Monday, June 20, 2022, 16:08:32
I cannot believe its taken this long to get here. A Lee Power move done at a slugs pace.

I'll back him, but fuck me Clem. It was all the disappointment of a cheap option and it wasn't even quick to put us out of our misery. Unbelievable.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, June 20, 2022, 16:09:02
Quote
Club News
BREAKING: Scott Lindsey appointed as Town's new Head Coach
Reds have a new man at the helm
Swindon Town Football Club are delighted to announce the appointment of Scott Lindsey as our new
First-Team Head Coach.

Following a thorough and diligent search, Lindsey emerged as the ideal candidate to lead the Reds forward.

Highly-regarded and respected by everyone who has worked under him, Lindsey offers Town some crucial continuity having served as Assistant Manager under former Head Coach Ben Garner last season.

As a result, Lindsey already knows the current squad inside out, he has close working relationships with those currently inside the club and is fully on board with our preferred way of playing.

Lindsey was instrumental in instilling the brand of football that spearheaded Town's success last year, and his promotion to Head Coach will ensure there isn't any change in direction to the way the team will look to play.

Furthermore, Lindsey is in lockstep with Technical Director Sandro Di Michele's philosophies and vision when it comes to recruitment and the direction the club wants to head in.

Having reached the EFL Sky Bet League Two Playoffs in 2021-22 and with a strong core in place, the club felt it was crucial to keep some level of continuity in place in order to give the team the best possible chance of competing for promotion in 2022-23.

Lindsey brings that quality in abundance, and he also boasts a proven track record when it comes to spotting talent and developing it, with current Town player Ellis Iandolo the perfect example having been brought to SN1 by Lindsey in 2015.

With a passion for the club and the local area, Lindsey ticks all of the boxes and we feel strongly he is the perfect man to lead Swindon Town into an exciting new era.

Sandro Di Michele, Town's Technical Director, said: "We have a clear philosophy on how we want this football club to operate and over the last 12 months Scott Lindsey has played a key role in shaping that.

Scott clearly believes in a possession based, attacking brand of football and he fully supports our data lead recruitment strategy.

He is hugely respected by the players and has been integral to their development. All these factors made Scott the standout choice and I’m incredibly excited for the future of Swindon Town Football Club with Scott as Head Coach.”

Following his appointment, Scott Lindsey expressed his delight at getting the opportunity to manage the club.

It means a lot to me to be the Head Coach of this fantastic football club,” he said.

There’s some great people behind the scenes working here, and you only had to look at last season to see how well supported this club is, averaging nearly 10,000 people every week, which is amazing for this standard of football.

Away from home the following was just incredible, so to be Head Coach of this club with that kind of following is just fantastic and I’m really looking forward to it.

The club wanted some continuity going forward and they don’t want to go too far away from how we play, so that was an important factor.

It is big for me and my family. I worked here back in 2015 as the Youth Coach, I then came back with Ben (Garner) as the Assistant Manager last year and my family have really embraced it. My children all go in the Town End for most home games, and try to get to a lot of the away games too, so it is a really proud moment for me.”

Swindon Town CEO, Rob Angus, said: “We’re really pleased that Scott has agreed to become Head Coach of our club, providing continuity, and he is someone who can develop and improve our players, and more importantly, believes in the way we like to play.

He has fully bought into our football strategy. He knows our club inside and out and I am sure with Scott at the helm we have a great future ahead of us.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: mozalini on Monday, June 20, 2022, 16:09:22
Positive news as far as I am concerned. He already knows the players and obviously works well with McKirdy which might not have been the case with a new coach.  He is less likely to walk away in a years time Garner-style and seems settled at the club.  

I'll never know all that has gone on these past few weeks, most of it is just bullshit rumours in any case.  Nor do I particularly care either, lets just move on and enjoy the ride.  

I'll leave the negativity to certain others!  



Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Honkytonk on Monday, June 20, 2022, 16:10:13
Assuming we keep a similar personnel roster as we did last year, with some obvious improvements now we have some actual stability and time to analyse, target, and go in for players (whether on frees or loan, I'm not, and nobody should be, expecting big money transfers, we're in L2 and trying to be sustainable), I think we'll have a god shot again this year.

Obviously keeping the core of the team is important, the new manager is obviously a known element to the players and backroom staff so provides some stability, even if it's underwhelming for some.

As I've said before, Swindon typically do better with unproven managers than we do with old cloggers. If we play like we did at our best last year, can't see a lot able to touch us. I don't expect that though, because It's Swindon Town.

I'm still hopeful for cadds as a coach.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Riddick on Monday, June 20, 2022, 16:10:26
Very very uninspired but have been with Wellens and Garner appointments. Let’s see who we manage to bring in to see how competitive we are. Has my support but this seems like a poor option

He is far less inspiring than either Wellens or Garner.

Wellens was a very good player, who you could believe had a good understanding of players and whats required. His stint at Oldham was better than it looked given conditions.

Garner was a career coach essentially, someone who had coached at big clubs, and while his rovers stint like Wellens, was not great, it was under tough conditions.

Lindsey had no real playing career, his coaching has been far more limited in experience and standard to that of Garners.

If he was the stand out candidate, it doesn't take this long to appoint him.

On the outside it looks a really cheap choice honestly and does absolutely nothing to inspire ahead of next season.

I can't help but have a nagging feeling that the last part of Sandro's comment here has a lot of meaning. 'Scott clearly believes in a possession based, attacking brand of football and he fully supports our data lead recruitment strategy.' The first two almost all coaches would support, get the feeling not many candidates fully supported the 'data led' element. Just a hunch.

Still he gets my support, lets see how we rebuild the squad. Hopefully he gets to bring a coach in. Otherwise it feels really cheep if its just the other Scott.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: DiV on Monday, June 20, 2022, 16:10:35
Hopefully adds some continuity from last season.
Hopefully the players had a good relationship with him and this *might* tempt them to stay.

Having worked primarily in the lower leagues don’t know what contacts he has (particularly for Premiet League youngsters)
Is he Garner lite or will he have his own ideas? Do we want him to have his own ideas? Or be Garner lite?


Honestly, such a long process to appoint someone who was already here. That to me (rightly or wrong) screams we didn’t get our top targets.

Be interesting to see who gets his old job as assistant. To save Clem time, I’ll do it if he can match my Royal Mail wage…

Underwhelmed but not unsupportive. Would have personally preferred someone younger and with experience behind the scenes at the top level - that was seemingly what the club wanted but not what the club delivered (which goes back to the not first choice)

Like any new manager he needs to hit the ground running. Let’s be brutally honest here after last season, us as fans (and the press as well I imagine) will be expecting us to challenge. The free hit, no pre season, embargo, just happy to have a club has to stop now.

We need to start moving towards. Top to bottom & I honestly don’t fucking care whose in what job as long as start moving forward and move away from being a L1 / L2 yo-yo team because these bottom two divisions are fucking shit and we’ve been here way too long. They don’t even have any novelty value anymore.


In summation - just win some fucking football games. Simple.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: singingiiiffy on Monday, June 20, 2022, 16:11:42
to take 3 weeks to recruit someone already on the books is quite frankly ridiculous especially when preseason is usually such valuable time.
the fear with this appointment is that there is already no new buzz around the manager and it wont take a long before a few bad results make the situation very awkward.

genuinely the only positive is continuity and hopefully the players enjoyed working with scott. wish him all the best as with every town manager. hmm


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, June 20, 2022, 16:14:56
4 weeks of rejections, then panic give it to the assistant*. Inspiring stuff.

But its a results business. Lets see what he's about on the pitch. And I don't mean give him 3 games then moan!

My expectations are unchanged. We must be pushing for autos. We'll see what December brings.

*other interpretations are available.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: adje on Monday, June 20, 2022, 16:15:06
I back him sure enough even though it seems as if many stones have been unturned


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Monday, June 20, 2022, 16:20:19
The way this has been done is appalling. If you're reasonably quick, you can dress it up and we all move on. Weeks this has dragged on. Why?

Was Lindsey the only one who would play who he is told to?


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: oxonrobin on Monday, June 20, 2022, 16:21:53
Finally... can we announce some players now?


Title: Re: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Monday, June 20, 2022, 16:23:10


My expectations are unchanged. We must be pushing for autos. We'll see what December brings.


Pretty much this. With the fanbase we have challenging for automatic promotion is a must, especially now alot of the debt has been paid.

Sent from my XQ-AD51


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Monday, June 20, 2022, 16:23:30

I can't help but have a nagging feeling that the last part of Sandro's comment here has a lot of meaning. 'Scott clearly believes in a possession based, attacking brand of football and he fully supports our data lead recruitment strategy.' The first two almost all coaches would support, get the feeling not many candidates fully supported the 'data led' element. Just a hunch.


That is a massive red flag to me.

"Do as your told."

Clem, Sandro. If you want to be the manager so much, why not fucking take on the job and stop appointing coaches to be the fall guy in case it goes wrong.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Monday, June 20, 2022, 16:24:38

Be interesting to see who gets his old job as assistant. To save Clem time, I’ll do it if he can match my Royal Mail wage…


Could have got many of us on here if he just wants someone to play the football he's told to and put the cones out during the week.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Quagmire on Monday, June 20, 2022, 16:25:25
Lindsey speaks……

https://t.co/evfVkXDkFL


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Posh Red on Monday, June 20, 2022, 16:27:35
If we had appointed the assistant manager of a team that made the playoffs last season would we have gone all “doom & gloom”?   Probably not.

Had we have appointed him straight away, that would have been worse to me, surely they needed to interview several other candidates first.

I, like most, will assume that our top candidate (if not more) didn’t accept the job, so if Scott was the next best option then fair enough.

Like any other manager (bar Steve Evans), I will back him but it does feel like a “best of the rest” appointment


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Quagmire on Monday, June 20, 2022, 16:29:02
Judging by Sandro’s words in the link I posted above, it sounds like a few didn’t like, or didn’t understand, the data approach.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: adje on Monday, June 20, 2022, 16:34:41
It's a proper Hoddle/Gorman type situation by all accounts


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Moss on Monday, June 20, 2022, 16:38:12
The way this has been done is appalling. If you're reasonably quick, you can dress it up and we all move on. Weeks this has dragged on. Why?

Was Lindsey the only one who would play who he is told to?

If you follow a process of interviewing candidates, there was some feed dragging over Charlton, could be some legit reasons for the delay. He is in post now, and to be honest I hadn't heard of any other managers we had since Di Canio (bar lingy).

Let's see who he can bring in and let's hope for a good start.



Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Frigby Daser on Monday, June 20, 2022, 16:43:04
It is not just that it’s uninspiring. It’s that it does not make sense. It’s anti-Moneyball isn’t it? Assistants typically do not succeed when they take over at the same club. They may of course go on elsewhere and do well, but not going from no 2 to no 1 at the same club. I’m sure there’s data on it….(anyone?).

When you appoint an assistant there is an overwhelming sense that he has been appointed (I) not because he was the best candidate, but because he was simply here anyway and (II) that we are getting a diluted version of what we had last year. Everything we had then, minus Garner. After a month of being in limbo, and not moving forwards, you need a statement of intent, to show ambition. We’ve got Diet 2021/2. And not Dennis Wise moving aside for Gus Poyet (yes, I know he didn’t) or Gorman replacing Hoddle. We’ve got the former manager of Chatham Town, whose CV would not have made anybody take notice if he was not already employed by the club.

Then there are the lingering doubts that it is indicative of deeper problems and money is guiding everything, and there’s none of it. Add that to Zavier Austin, convicted money launderer, posing in photos now (and his ever-escalating presence) and this is suddenly not quite what we were sold by the new regime when they took over.

What can resolve doubts? Remove Austin from any involvement in the club (won’t happen) and sign some players, ideally not from Chatham Town, but of the Reed and Williams calibre.

Worried and in need of a lift. And hoping this ages terribly.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: adje on Monday, June 20, 2022, 16:44:09
If you follow a process of interviewing candidates, there was some feed dragging over Charlton, could be some legit reasons for the delay. He is in post now, and to be honest I hadn't heard of any other managers we had since Di Canio (bar lingy).

Let's see who he can bring in and let's hope for a good start.


You'd never heard of Phil Brown?


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, June 20, 2022, 16:47:24
Worrying thing for me was that he sounded less than positive about the OOC players signing back on.

That’s the litmus test, for me.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: DiV on Monday, June 20, 2022, 16:47:36
You'd never heard of Phil Brown?

…or Wellens who we came up against as a Player?
…or John Sheridan who played at the top level?

I mean it checks out if he’s about 8 years old


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Riddick on Monday, June 20, 2022, 16:50:03
Worrying thing for me was that he sounded less than positive about the OOC players signing back on.

That’s the litmus test, for me.

Some of them already have. Just not announced. I assume they will be ahead of players return.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Monday, June 20, 2022, 16:50:17
I'm assuming that the other Scott is sticking around?
Some room to accommodate Caddis on the coaching staff would be welcome, but all well & good if the 2 Scott's can take the strain & any savings are recycled into the playing budget.

Some good examples of people with a less than stellar playing career going on to make a mark in coaching.

As always, even with due diligence every managerial appointment is still a risk with no guarantees.

As fans it would be good to pick up where we left off towards the end of last season.

Looking forward to the fixtures & some positive news on contract renewals.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, June 20, 2022, 16:51:51
Be remiss not to put this up



Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Frigby Daser on Monday, June 20, 2022, 16:52:48
“Trust no one” on his arm. How inspiring.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, June 20, 2022, 16:53:44
I thought he spoke pretty well and said pretty much what we thought he would.

Hopefully he will engage the fans more than Garner ever did or even tried.

Has a few of his own ideas about aggression on the pitch and attacking with speed, something we missed under Garner at times, certainly the aggression side of it.

I can see why Clem decided to appoint Lindsey as apparently most of the players last season said that the dressing room was the best they had ever experienced, so its continuity and hopefully will keep a few of the OOC players and get some in to compliment the players we already have.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Monday, June 20, 2022, 16:57:47
“Trust no one” on his arm. How inspiring.

Fucking hell hahaha


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Monday, June 20, 2022, 16:58:15
“Trust no one” on his arm. How inspiring.
This is the kind of posts i am refering to when i say constantly negative on here. How has his tattoo got any relevance to anything ffs. There are plenty of other reasons to doubt this appointment but bloody hell.. It's a tattoo


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, June 20, 2022, 16:58:28
It's obviously a 'meh' appointment. No need to dress it up any other way. I'm just happy we have somebody in the building, the other thread was getting pretty angsty!

Whilst on the subject of not dressing things up the assistant is likely to send some over the edge apparently. He won't disclose a name but he's from the lower echelons of the league/non-league pyramid.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Monday, June 20, 2022, 16:59:11
I thought he spoke pretty well and said pretty much what we thought he would.


Agree. He also said quick attacking football, but then again so did Garner in his Charlton interview :D


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Riddick on Monday, June 20, 2022, 17:01:23
Agree. He also said quick attacking football, but then again so did Garner in his Charlton interview :D

Lindsey did call out not keeping it at the back for the sake of it, in one of the vids i just watched. Sounded like a bit of a dig at Garnerball. And music to our ears.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Monday, June 20, 2022, 17:01:33
Whilst on the subject of not dressing things up the assistant is likely to send some over the edge apparently.

Well I hope its just that no one has heard of him from that rather than someone known for being spectacularly awful.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Monday, June 20, 2022, 17:02:20
Lindsey did call out not keeping it at the back for the sake of it, in one of the vids i just watched. Sounded like a bit of a dig at Garnerball. And music to our ears.

The positivity I'm clinging to today.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, June 20, 2022, 17:02:43
Oh god, I have just read on his blurb that Scott Lindsey's kids go in the town end for most games. I really really really hope it goes well for him as some of the shit shouted by fans can be toxic to listen to.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, June 20, 2022, 17:03:25
Well I hope its just that no one has heard of him from that rather than someone known for being spectacularly awful.

I think it's probably the former to be honest.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: NotHarryAgombar on Monday, June 20, 2022, 17:04:33
My thought is that of recent managerial appointments, many of us (if I recall the TEF threads at the time) were more positive about Brown, Flitcroft or McGreal than we were about Wellens and Garner - but we all know which two of those five turned out to be the better appointments.
I just hope Lindsey hasn’t said “it’s Swindon Town!” In his first interview.

Hopefully the relationships from last season will encourage the likes of Egbo and Payne to sign again, and he will know how to make McKirdy tick (an outsider may not).

Looking forward now to the new (or re) signings being announced.

Some people have posted that “promoting assistants never works” - more accurate to say that it can work and has on occasions. Some have cited examples of it not working already, equally there are some which worked rather well - Bob Paisley and Joe Fagan being the best examples of that.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Monday, June 20, 2022, 17:06:06
Not buying Sandro saying he doesn't know how close Lindsey came to joining Charlton.

He comes across as a bit of a bullshitter, to be honest.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Monday, June 20, 2022, 17:06:43
Well I hope its just that no one has heard of him from that rather than someone known for being spectacularly awful.
Interesting if that means Marshall has gone then


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, June 20, 2022, 17:07:17
My thought is that of recent managerial appointments, many of us (if I recall the TEF threads at the time) were more positive about Brown, Flitcroft or McGreal than we were about Wellens and Garner - but we all know which two of those five turned out to be the better appointments.


Is the answer McGreal as he was unbeaten in his spell?



Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Nemo on Monday, June 20, 2022, 17:07:44
Some people have posted that “promoting assistants never works” - more accurate to say that it can work and has on occasions. Some have cited examples of it not working already, equally there are some which worked rather well - Bob Paisley and Joe Fagan being the best examples of that.

I did think of Paisley, but assumed an example from the last 50 years might be more relevant...


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, June 20, 2022, 17:08:25
Not buying Sandro saying he doesn't know how close Lindsey came to joining Charlton.

He comes across as a bit of a bullshitter, to be honest.

He did work at SkyBet so probably picked up a lot of bad habits working in that industry.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Monday, June 20, 2022, 17:09:13
Is there a recent interview with Sandro


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Frigby Daser on Monday, June 20, 2022, 17:10:20
This is the kind of posts i am refering to when i say constantly negative on here. How has his tattoo got any relevance to anything ffs. There are plenty of other reasons to doubt this appointment but bloody hell.. It's a tattoo

To put your mind at ease, it was tongue in cheek. I agree, there are many a question raised by the appointment, and this isn’t one (!) and we have a history of managers with questionable tats (PDC) performing well, so you never know… it could be a good omen!


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Monday, June 20, 2022, 17:11:10
Well at least that puts the 40% extra on the playing budget.
Not sure though if that “leaves no stone unturned” whilst finding a Manager.

Positives - The players appear to like him and know him and no matter what I will still support the Club.

Underwhelmed? yes, Suicidal? No Surprised? No.
Let’s get some positivity now with some decent signings.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, June 20, 2022, 17:14:52
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Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Nemo on Monday, June 20, 2022, 17:15:49
This is the kind of posts i am refering to when i say constantly negative on here. How has his tattoo got any relevance to anything ffs. There are plenty of other reasons to doubt this appointment but bloody hell.. It's a tattoo

My wife's great uncle used *fucking hate* tattoos - would never miss an opportunity to whinge about them and deride anyone who had one ("One of life's losers").

One day my wife brought up the fact that Churchill had one and you have never seen someone swivel on a dime so fast... apparently it was different if you were in the armed forces!


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Monday, June 20, 2022, 17:18:14
Is there a recent interview with Sandro

On the end of the Lindsey one posted.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Monday, June 20, 2022, 17:20:50
On the end of the Lindsey one posted.
Thanks mate


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Monday, June 20, 2022, 17:21:31
To put your mind at ease, it was tongue in cheek. I agree, there are many a question raised by the appointment, and this isn’t one (!) and we have a history of managers with questionable tats (PDC) performing well, so you never know… it could be a good omen!
Sorry Fraser... Had seen it a bit on FB as well and dreaded the thought some had sneaked in


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Moss on Monday, June 20, 2022, 17:21:50
…or Wellens who we came up against as a Player?
…or John Sheridan who played at the top level?

I mean it checks out if he’s about 8 years old

Well apart from Phil Brown and Sheridan as a player - but most of our managers since the glory days I've had no clue who they were when appointed. He knows the players, was around for a successful season so let's hope he hits the ground running.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Monday, June 20, 2022, 17:21:57
My wife's great uncle used *fucking hate* tattoos - would never miss an opportunity to whinge about them and deride anyone who had one ("One of life's losers").

One day my wife brought up the fact that Churchill had one and you have never seen someone swivel on a dime so fast... apparently it was different if you were in the armed forces!

Fantastic haha. Older generations really fucking hated people with tattoos, didn't they? People being judged like that seems to be going by the wayside though. Although I think in Japan until quite recently you were basically considered Yakuza if you had one.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: theakston2k on Monday, June 20, 2022, 17:23:08
Sorry just doesn’t stack up for me, his CV has nothing in it that says 1st team coach and a 3 year deal is just a nonsense. Rightly or wrongly it feels like we were have either got desperate, ended up with staff we had nothing else we could do anything with after they didn’t go to Charlton or a combination of both. It seems his main credentials that are emphasised is people like him and he’s local, other than that on paper he seems to tick no boxes. The fact it has taken 4 weeks to end up he raised alarm bells for me.

I’m going to be controversial here and say do Angus and Clem have any better idea then most people on here when it comes to managers as Garner was Chorley’s choice previously.

Going to need some massive signings to get any positivity out of this, if this was under Power people would be losing their shit and when it comes to on the pitch stuff the same standards apply!


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Monday, June 20, 2022, 17:25:08
Going to need some massive signings to get any positivity out of this, if this was under Power people would be losing their shit and when it comes to on the pitch stuff the same standards apply!

Agree. Just feel completely flat about it.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Monday, June 20, 2022, 17:33:19
Sorry just doesn’t stack up for me, his CV has nothing in it that says 1st team coach and a 3 year deal is just a nonsense. Rightly or wrongly it feels like we were have either got desperate, ended up with staff we had nothing else we could do anything with after they didn’t go to Charlton or a combination of both. It seems his main credentials that are emphasised is people like him and he’s local, other than that on paper he seems to tick no boxes. The fact it has taken 4 weeks to end up he raised alarm bells for me.

I’m going to be controversial here and say do Angus and Clem have any better idea then most people on here when it comes to managers as Garner was Chorley’s choice previously.

Going to need some massive signings to get any positivity out of this, if this was under Power people would be losing their shit and when it comes to on the pitch stuff the same standards apply!
Totally understandable too, can't blame fans thinking like this. Disagree about Garner though, many were saying the same last year at the appoitments.

Either way, it's done now. Be interesting to see who we bring in


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Outletred on Monday, June 20, 2022, 17:33:57
Seems like Hoddle/Gorman all over again  and look at how that ended!

Will support him but feel totally uninspired- how the hell does it take weeks to appoint someone already here?

As others have said expect autos next season. If we aren’t challenging at Christmas the fan base will turn toxic quickly


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, June 20, 2022, 17:40:29
Quote from: Bob's Orange

Whilst on the subject of not dressing things up the assistant is likely to send some over the edge apparently. He won't disclose a name but he's from the lower echelons of the league/non-league pyramid.

does anyone give a fuck about the assistant manager (cone gatherer)?

it would be great for it to be someone who has managerial experience in or close to the league


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Outletred on Monday, June 20, 2022, 17:41:11
Also having a convicted money launderer posing in press photos doesn’t inspire much confidence from me for Clem either


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: michael on Monday, June 20, 2022, 17:41:53
Seems like Hoddle/Gorman all over again  and look at how that ended!
...in the third tier of English football?


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Outletred on Monday, June 20, 2022, 17:42:01
Can’t see this convincing our best players to stay or OOC signing either. Cheap Poundland option


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Monday, June 20, 2022, 17:45:27
does anyone give a fuck about the assistant manager (cone gatherer)?

it would be great for it to be someone who has managerial experience in or close to the league

You could argue the Head Coach is little more than a cone gatherer based on the current set up.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: derbystfc on Monday, June 20, 2022, 17:45:32
I think a period of realization now needs to set in, we are not this big club that will attract the names that was being circulated around. The fans themselves got all carried away by following betting odds from the bookies (why? the betting market is dictated by betting behavior) and the media which did not have a clue either and random rumors. Some of the fans got their knickers in a twist over Sol Campbell. Because of the hype, the expectation of a Carrick type of name was in abundance.

The club did not say anything, they went about the business quietly and hopefully diligently. Comparing this to Hoddle and Gorman is just silly. As if Garner is some football genius who was a tactical wizard (He wasn't)

Now we will find out, who was really responsible for the season we had last season. Now the club can continue as you were



Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Monday, June 20, 2022, 17:51:49
I don't think people got their knickers in a twist because people expected Michael Carrick. I think they got their knickers in a twist because they think he's a bit of a cunt.

People that don't like the negativity seem to be constantly changing the arguments to justify why its wrong.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Quagmire on Monday, June 20, 2022, 17:53:27
does anyone give a fuck about the assistant manager (cone gatherer)?

it would be great for it to be someone who has managerial experience in or close to the league

Well it could be our next manager, so probably quite important.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Monday, June 20, 2022, 17:54:24
I don't think people got their knickers in a twist because people expected Michael Carrick. I think they got their knickers in a twist because they think he's a bit of a cunt.

People that don't like the negativity seem to be constantly changing the arguments to justify why its wrong.
The same for why it's not right either, both sides as bad as eachother and i include myself in that. We could be sat here arguing that it's Paul caddis


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, June 20, 2022, 17:55:56
Quote from: Quagmire
Well it could be our next manager, so probably quite important.

only after a 4 week wait though


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, June 20, 2022, 17:56:22
Also having a convicted money launderer posing in press photos doesn’t inspire much confidence from me for Clem either

You're not a fan of club owners are you?  ;D


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Nemo on Monday, June 20, 2022, 17:56:44
I think a period of realization now needs to set in, we are not this big club that will attract the names that was being circulated around. The fans themselves got all carried away by following betting odds from the bookies (why? the betting market is dictated by betting behavior) and the media which did not have a clue either and random rumors. Some of the fans got their knickers in a twist over Sol Campbell. Because of the hype, the expectation of a Carrick type of name was in abundance.

The club did not say anything, they went about the business quietly and hopefully diligently. Comparing this to Hoddle and Gorman is just silly. As if Garner is some football genius who was a tactical wizard (He wasn't)

Now we will find out, who was really responsible for the season we had last season. Now the club can continue as you were



I sort of see where you're coming from, but a club in our division has Mark Hughes as a manager.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Monday, June 20, 2022, 18:01:53
and we also appointed Dennis Wise, Paolo Di Canio and Lou Macari in this division. (even a lesser extent Paul Sturrock who was very proven and sought after).

Its bollocks. It is in the same family as "But who would buy the club?" type drivel when people would call for Power to fuck off.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: molepar on Monday, June 20, 2022, 18:02:26
I sort of see where you're coming from, but a club in our division has Mark Hughes as a manager.
What has Hughes achieved as a manager? Not a lot as far as I can tell.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Monday, June 20, 2022, 18:05:37
What has Hughes achieved as a manager? Not a lot as far as I can tell.

More than Michael Carrick as far as I can tell.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Nemo on Monday, June 20, 2022, 18:06:00
What has Hughes achieved as a manager? Not a lot as far as I can tell.

Managed about 500 Premier League games? I'm not here to be his agent or anything, but think it's fair to say his CV is pretty strong for someone taking a L2 job.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Swindon Please Win on Monday, June 20, 2022, 18:08:30
Managed about 500 Premier League games? I'm not here to be his agent or anything, but think it's fair to say his CV is pretty strong for someone taking a L2 job.

Is it not more of a worry how he's ended up in League 2? Looks like a Phil Brown trajectory.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: JBZ on Monday, June 20, 2022, 18:10:56
I am pleased to see that the mindless speculation has ended, at least until the end of September 2022.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: cdakev on Monday, June 20, 2022, 18:37:23
He get's my backing. Good luck to him


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Monday, June 20, 2022, 18:40:29
Also having a convicted money launderer posing in press photos doesn’t inspire much confidence from me for Clem either

Could be worse if an ex football agent took the photo.

Just need some decent signings and hopefully Payne not on his bike.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: dalumpimunki on Monday, June 20, 2022, 18:44:19
and we also appointed Dennis Wise, Paolo Di Canio and Lou Macari in this division. (even a lesser extent Paul Sturrock who was very proven and sought after).

Its bollocks. It is in the same family as "But who would buy the club?" type drivel when people would call for Power to fuck off.

The Macari appointment was so long ago it's from an entirely different era when relatively high profile players needed to work after their playing careers because they weren't all multi millionaires.

The other two name players would have struggled to get bigger clubs as their first job because of their deserved reputations for being a pain in the arse. Their later stellar careers elsewhere indicate why.

Sturrock was starting his trajectory downwards after failure at Southampton and Wendies, and we were clearly headed for L1 that season.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: molepar on Monday, June 20, 2022, 18:45:17
Managed about 500 Premier League games? I'm not here to be his agent or anything, but think it's fair to say his CV is pretty strong for someone taking a L2 job.
Highly decorated playing career but if Wikipedia is anything to go by his only managerial honour is winning manager of the month…once.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Monday, June 20, 2022, 18:47:34
The Macari appointment was so long ago it's from an entirely different era when relatively high profile players needed to work after their playing careers because they weren't all multi millionaires.

The other two name players would have struggled to get bigger clubs as their first job because of their deserved reputations for being a pain in the arse. Their later stellar careers elsewhere indicate why.

Sturrock was starting his trajectory downwards after failure at Southampton and Wendies, and we were clearly headed for L1 that season.

Yes, and someone like Macari these days would be going to a club in the Championship or Premiership! He was the equivalent of Rooney, Gerrard, Viera, Arsenal manager, Burnley manager (who's names I forget as I have little interest in Premiership).


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Frigby Daser on Monday, June 20, 2022, 18:57:32
Could be worse if an ex football agent took the photo

Seriously?


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, June 20, 2022, 19:02:01
We are Lindsey's red and white army.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Monday, June 20, 2022, 19:06:02
Apologies if mentioned but James Spencer confirmed on the supporters club live that Scott Marshall has left, so we’ll see some new faces arriving imminently you’d think.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Monday, June 20, 2022, 19:07:34
Apologies if mentioned but James Spencer confirmed on the supporters club live that Scott Marshall has left, so we’ll see some new faces arriving imminently you’d think.
Yes, and Paul Caddis didn't turn up or make contact.

Finally, there was a suggestion (not from someone ITK) of Baudry as an assistant coach.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Monday, June 20, 2022, 19:10:07
Re. Baudry as assistant - I’d prefer someone more experienced (in Marshall’s mould) to come in given we’ve a rookie manager…I get that’d leave room for a first team coach, but I think that would be a brave move.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: dalumpimunki on Monday, June 20, 2022, 19:11:14
Yes, and someone like Macari these days would be going to a club in the Championship or Premiership! He was the equivalent of Rooney, Gerrard, Viera, Arsenal manager, Burnley manager (who's names I forget as I have little interest in Premiership).

To be fair that's overstating Macari's profile as a player. He played for United at a bit of a low period for them. The only league title they won in his time was in the second division. He might have an FA cup winners medal but not much more.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Quagmire on Monday, June 20, 2022, 19:17:40
Apologies if mentioned but James Spencer confirmed on the supporters club live that Scott Marshall has left, so we’ll see some new faces arriving imminently you’d think.

James Spencer really needs to stop talking.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: The Million Pound Man on Monday, June 20, 2022, 19:21:01
James Spencer really needs to stop talking.


The same James Spencer who told us we had a coach signed up pending the 2 Scotts leaving? :hmmm:



I feel the trust should speak more when questioning the club and less dropping spoilers.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Quagmire on Monday, June 20, 2022, 19:22:06

The same James Spencer who told us we had a coach signed up pending the 2 Scotts leaving? :hmmm:

That’s exactly why.

I get he’s trying to keep the fans updated, but it’s not his job to be spokesperson for the club.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Quagmire on Monday, June 20, 2022, 19:22:49
I agree and for the same reason include Caddis in that. Baudry is moving into the finance world anyway so i'd be amazed if his head was turnt

I was actually told Baudry had signed on for another year.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: MangoRed on Monday, June 20, 2022, 19:25:06
That’s exactly why.

I get he’s trying to keep the fans updated, but it’s not his job to be spokesperson for the club.

The same supporters trust that didn’t bother asking any of the questions the supporters asked them to ask RE Zav at the supporters advisory board meeting.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: The Million Pound Man on Monday, June 20, 2022, 19:33:48
SL comes across very well, and seems like a decent bloke... wish him all the best.


I do however smell a rat, something is a miss here. SDM said theres too much sentiment in football a few days ago and then appoints someone because hes liked at the club, very data driven.


Again, we need clarity on Zav Austin... if only there was an avenue for supporters to ask such questions.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: theakston2k on Monday, June 20, 2022, 19:38:34
James Spencer really needs to stop talking.
Very much this!


Title: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, June 20, 2022, 19:40:12
Quote
Lucky it's an ex agent. Anyone who doesn't think Standing is still involved is very naive, nothing illegal in that either. So bloody annoying the club didn't think it was wise he left the role 2 years ago the fucking idiots
this kind of thing is where I think the trust and transparency are failing.

Initial thoughts on 'involved' would be financial. But it could be anything from recommending players to being the £2m long term debtor.

I think the lack of information on Austin and the Karachi thing worries me more tbh.

if we just had Clem around I'd probably be more relaxed.

but anyway this is way off topic and wrong thread


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Bogus Dave on Monday, June 20, 2022, 19:43:42
Lucky it's an ex agent. Anyone who doesn't think Standing is still involved is very naive, nothing illegal in that either. So bloody annoying the club didn't think it was wise he left the role 2 years ago the fucking idiots

I wish we had a supporters trust who could press the club on why someone with an FA Charge hanging over there head for improper ownership of a (this) football club is still hanging around.

Maybe the my could do as thorough a job as they did into the due diligence of our vice chairman


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Bogus Dave on Monday, June 20, 2022, 19:45:32
Especially when our main defence against the FA Charge appears to be ‘it was the old owners guv, honest! We didn’t know nothing about it and we’re straight mow’


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: tans on Monday, June 20, 2022, 19:48:34
I agree 100% davido


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Bogus Dave on Monday, June 20, 2022, 19:49:05
It’s far from fucking open and honest either


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Monday, June 20, 2022, 19:49:28
I wish we had a supporters trust who could press the club on why someone with an FA Charge hanging over there head for improper ownership of a (this) football club is still hanging around.

Maybe the my could do as thorough a job as they did into the due diligence of our vice chairman
Genuine question and not being sarcastic here, have you emailed the trust to ask these questions or emailed the club


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Bogus Dave on Monday, June 20, 2022, 19:51:52
Nope, have only found out tonight (and only rumours etc blah blah). I will do

It might be completely honest and above board- but it doesn’t pass the sniff test


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: theakston2k on Monday, June 20, 2022, 20:00:28
Genuine question and not being sarcastic here, have you emailed the trust to ask these questions or emailed the club
I asked them to raise Adam Hart’s involvement and got nothing, they’ve lost all credibility for me they are basically just another version of the OSC now who are just there to support the club.

No problem with Clem, he seems a nice but the more you see the more it just looks like a rearrangement of the deck chairs from the outside with the likes of Austin & Standing lurking in the background. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Standing the actual ‘owner’ at the end of all this and that won’t sit well with me as he’s got us into some significant trouble.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: The Million Pound Man on Monday, June 20, 2022, 20:02:20
I asked them to raise Adam Hart’s involvement and got nothing, they’ve lost all credibility for me they are basically just another version of the OSC now who are just there to support the club.

No problem with Clem, he seems a nice but the more you see the more it just looks like a rearrangement of the deck chairs from the outside with the likes of Austin & Standing lurking in the background. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Standing the actual ‘owner’ at the end of all this and that won’t sit well with me as he’s got us into some significant trouble.


Spot on, official supporters clubs are vetted by the football club- trusts should be a pressure group.


ive cancelled my trust direct debit, no longer fit for purpose (after doing a stellar job getting rid of power it must be said).


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Monday, June 20, 2022, 20:02:46
James Spencer really needs to stop talking.
I’m surprised the Trust haven’t reined him in yet - and I say that as respectfully as possible as I know he’s well meaning but he hasn’t helped manage fans’ expectations in recent weeks.

Around the wider ‘too close to the club’ debate - I think it’s a valid argument. I’ve always thought the Trust should play the role of ‘friendly agitators’ (as they did brilliantly with Power) but they appear far too close with the club now to properly hold them to account.

Edit - the Million Pound Man beat me to it on my second point!


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Bogus Dave on Monday, June 20, 2022, 20:04:36
Upon reflection I’d also add that the trust should be asking those kinds of questions automatically, without the need to be pressed to do so, in the interests of good governance of the football club

In regards to being open and transparent I’d also expect any involvement to be acknowledged *somewhere* - even if it’s as little in the advisory board action notes referencing the FA charge

Again, based on rumour and conjecture etc.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: MangoRed on Monday, June 20, 2022, 20:14:41
Yes, the trust done well in the summer.

But we need a trust that’s gonna interrogate and question what’s happening at our club. Right now they are in this regimes back pocket and wouldn’t dare speak up against them. Appears to be a board full of yes men. Currently not fit for purpose.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Monday, June 20, 2022, 20:17:01
Apologies if mentioned but James Spencer confirmed on the supporters club live that Scott Marshall has left, so we’ll see some new faces arriving imminently you’d think.
Hope he has not jumped the gun again


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Monday, June 20, 2022, 20:19:24
Lindsey speaks……

https://t.co/evfVkXDkFL

Didn't think he cave across that badly at all.
The only piece which did stick was he said we will go and do aggressive attacking possession based football. Close down quicker and win the ball back quicker. Then when asked what his main role was, the defence, keeping the space and shape. That is a worry because we were very stand off last year and this was his area of operation.
Time will tell, he may just be a rough diamond himself and move us along nicely


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Nemo on Monday, June 20, 2022, 20:20:12
I'm still pro trust to get the ground purchase done - part ownership of the ground for fan groups will be more important long term than anything else the trust can do in the short term. I also totally appreciate that interpersonally the senior trust bods who have worked with RA for years are going to be close to the club.

I think distance will come with time and with natural generational change at the top of the trust. I imagine a lot of the current board want to see the CG purchase done and will see that as a natural stopping point. If that means being very vocally pro Clem beyond the natural level of support until it's done then maybe that's the means to the end.



Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: MangoRed on Monday, June 20, 2022, 20:21:44
I'm still pro trust to get the ground purchase done - part ownership of the ground for fan groups will be more important long term than anything else the trust can do in the short term. O also totally appreciate that interpersonally the senior trust bods who have worked with RA for years are going to be close to the club.

I think distance will come with time and with natural generational change at the top of the trust. I imagine a lot of the current board want to see the CG purchase done and will see that as a natural stopping point. If that means being very vocally pro Clem beyond the natural level of support until it's done then maybe that's the means to the end.




Is it true the trust have been loaned money by Clem to help purchase the ground?


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, June 20, 2022, 20:40:38
the offer was made if they couldn't secure the funds wasn't it?

I thought they were talking to the Edy trust


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: STFC_Manc on Monday, June 20, 2022, 20:56:41

Again, we need clarity on Zav Austin... if only there was an avenue for supporters to ask such questions.

Out of interest, what clarity do you need?


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Monday, June 20, 2022, 20:59:49
I thought he clarified last year when he sat in his pink pants


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: STFC_Manc on Monday, June 20, 2022, 21:01:46
I thought he clarified last year when he sat in his pink pants

How can anyone forget that! Which is why I asked what clarity he wanted.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: The Million Pound Man on Monday, June 20, 2022, 21:06:30
Out of interest, what clarity do you need?

Is he on the board? Was never clearly announced one way or the other, believe it was left as applying to EFL to be on the board.

Karachi- he's on film saying this is costing the club a lot of money... how much and why is it a priority? Ringing ST holders begging for them to waive a refund on one had whilst he's flying around the world on laundering, I mean recruiting, missions to a country its very difficult to get a Visa from doesn't seem to add up.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Private Fraser on Monday, June 20, 2022, 21:10:31

Again, we need clarity on Zav Austin... if only there was an avenue for supporters to ask such questions.

When the Trust sent out the link to the latest Advisory Board minutes the email said:

“If you do have any questions that you would like raised with the club then please get in touch on the email below.

Thanks,
Keith Coatsworth
Membership Secretary, TrustSTFC

Email: [email protected]

I expect the OSC have something similar. So avenues do exist.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: MangoRed on Monday, June 20, 2022, 21:17:12
When the Trust sent out the link to the latest Advisory Board minutes the email said:

“If you do have any questions that you would like raised with the club then please get in touch on the email below.

Thanks,
Keith Coatsworth
Membership Secretary, TrustSTFC

Email: [email protected]

I expect the OSC have something similar. So avenues do exist.

forum

A thread literally appeared on this forum titled “questions for advisory board” which the trust members could see. If that ain’t good enough then fuck knows what it is. Do we need to write in and send it recorded delivery?


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: STFC_Manc on Monday, June 20, 2022, 21:22:34
A thread literally appeared on this forum titled “questions for advisory board” which the trust members could see. If that ain’t good enough then fuck knows what it is. Do we need to write in and send it recorded delivery?

You could always just email the Trust on the email above?


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: MangoRed on Monday, June 20, 2022, 21:31:12
You could always just email the Trust on the email above?


Spoken to the trust with concerns I’ve had enough times…..

You’re defo one of the fairy’s that thinks the sun shines out of this regimes backside ain’t ya?


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, June 20, 2022, 21:33:52
Ryan Giggs is available

😁😁


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, June 20, 2022, 21:35:11
yeah the email option is available. one I think I'll take this week now podgate has settled.

I do think the trust could have done this themselves without prompting, but hey.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Monday, June 20, 2022, 21:46:17
Isn't the new manager thread going off track already😀


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: MangoRed on Monday, June 20, 2022, 21:51:16
Isn't the new manager thread going off track already😀


You’re right.

I would say let’s stick this in the “questions for advisory board” thread, but that would also be pointless as none of those questions got asked.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Monday, June 20, 2022, 21:56:32
Back to the new manager😀

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mr5EM1YeQLE

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OkaRrhvqEuc


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: STFC_Manc on Monday, June 20, 2022, 21:59:49

Spoken to the trust with concerns I’ve had enough times…..

You’re defo one of the fairy’s that thinks the sun shines out of this regimes backside ain’t ya?

I'm just judging the new regime by the actions they have done, not something that previous people have done. Unlike what lots of people on here are doing.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 08:30:35
Its hardly surprising that the Trust are close to the club, they have had to enter into a JV to buy the ground.

So in summary of this thread and its predecessor, a large proportion of the fan base have no confidence in the new manager*, little confidence in the Trust or the owners of the club.

Its going to be a right giggle of a summer and season this isn't it.

* Thing is with SL, so much negative has ben said about the guy already I can see no way that those who said it can row back without admitting that they were wrong, something that human beings generally really struggle with, so he may as well pack up and go home now.   


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 08:30:38
Back to the new manager😀

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mr5EM1YeQLE

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OkaRrhvqEuc

Thanks Jimmy. I like the sound of what we are looking to do on the pitch. Hopefully more of the same as last season, with more tempo and more attacking threat as well as less pissing about at the back for pissing about at the back's sake.

I found the Di Michele interview interesting although I'm not convinced I believe him. His spin basically was that since he has walked through the door Scott Lindsey for him has been the best candidate. If that's the case, then absolutely superb and we have to trust Di Michele knows what he is doing.

The next step is getting the out of contract players to commit and then bring in new blood for our promotion assault. Although it was also evident that neither man stuck their neck out to say we'd try and get out of league 2 this season, just that we would be 'competitive' on the pitch.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 08:41:09
I'm the same Bob slightly sceptical regarding Sandro as he's only been here a couple of weeks or so and it's hard to believe that Lindsey was the outstanding candidate for the job. The other thing I don't think it's been mentioned is how did he end up at STFC if he was successful at Wigan as I can't believe we would be paying him a huge salary or his services.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 09:11:15
* Thing is with SL, so much negative has ben said about the guy already I can see no way that those who said it can row back without admitting that they were wrong, something that human beings generally really struggle with, so he may as well pack up and go home now.   
Thing is people wouldn’t actually be wrong would they? People are making judgements based on the facts at hand and his CV and based on that the appointment makes little sense, if it works great but that doesn’t mean the current concerns aren’t legitimate or ‘wrong’.

I also don’t get the 3 year deal for a rookie, I’m assuming there is a break clause if it isn’t working?


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 09:15:29
Fully behind him. Confident he will build from last season and take us forward.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Swindon Please Win on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 09:19:33
Big thing will be new signings and renewals now, that'll show the intent. Hopefully get a few this week now this is announced.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: THE FLASH on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 09:22:23
Oh well....expected to be underwhelmed and got that delivered. Was'nt expecting Klopp by the way!

By naming him now (dont care what was said on the wireless yesterday) its obvious he was'nt the number one target. Name him earlier and give a few weeks head start IMO. :sherlock:

Anyway...

He knows the players and the Club set up which i hope will be a huge advantage to him.

He defo wont get as much slack as Garner got last season for sure.

Best of luck to him. Lets get some players in and a get an Auto spot.....please!!!


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 09:23:23
Thing is people wouldn’t actually be wrong would they? People are making judgements based on the facts at hand and his CV and based on that the appointment makes little sense, if it works great but that doesn’t mean the current concerns aren’t legitimate or ‘wrong’.

I also don’t get the 3 year deal for a rookie, I’m assuming there is a break clause if it isn’t working?

Exactly this. Why there has to be some a wobbly when people make valid criticisms is beyond me.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 09:30:04
That works both ways though  ;)


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 09:32:57
Exactly this. Why there has to be some a wobbly when people make valid criticisms is beyond me.
Is there a wobbly? It's just people disagreeing with each other


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: The Million Pound Man on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 09:33:54
Exactly this. Why there has to be some a wobbly when people make valid criticisms is beyond me.


its almost as if you arent ultra positive happy clapping about everything you arent supporting the club.

criticisms and awkward questions are born out of love for this club and wanting us to be better in every single way on and off the pitch, if we all just sat here and trusted everything were being told & accepted 'theyre doing their best' then we wouldnt have a club to follow.

we're all town and we all want success- scrutiny is needed to achieve that.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 09:41:33

its almost as if you arent ultra positive happy clapping about everything you arent supporting the club.

criticisms and awkward questions are born out of love for this club and wanting us to be better in every single way on and off the pitch, if we all just sat here and trusted everything were being told & accepted 'theyre doing their best' then we wouldnt have a club to follow.

we're all town and we all want success- scrutiny is needed to achieve that.


Exactly this. Some of our fans need to familiarise themselves with toxic positivity, because its a thing.

The thing that makes me laugh is when we were going up under Power with Eoin Doyle scoring every week, people who hated Power and wanted him out were mocked and shouted down and told to concentrate on what was happening on the pitch. The same people were the "At least we've got a club" merchants whenever someone complained about Garners tactical ineptness last season.

So which is it? Boardroom or Pitch or just whichever allows you to bury your head away from nasty negativity?

We've definitely got a section of a fan base that are moany cunts, but a big section of our fan base just cannot hear any form of negativity so much to the point that they'd rather not live in reality sometimes and I genuinely do wonder where their line is. We were joking yesterday about Graham Rix as Manager and signing Adam Johnson just to push some of these people and see if you'll get a squeak out of them.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: adje on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 09:43:47
If this means Payne(and others)stay then that'll more than do for now


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 09:45:28
Exactly this. Why there has to be some a wobbly when people make valid criticisms is beyond me.

People make criticism.

People make counter criticism.

Don't think anyone's throwing a wobbly either way.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: adje on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 09:48:34
We are Lindsey's red and white army.
I think "Lindsey" on its own sounds a bit,I don't know,effete? I suggest we change the "We are" to "we're" and add his Christian name.🙂


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 09:49:49
People make criticism.

People make counter criticism.

Don't think anyone's throwing a wobbly either way.

Most of the time it isn't arguing a counter point though, is it? Its just mocking people or complaining about them being negative....or my favourite: completely misunderstanding the reason people are unhappy and then arguing against something totally different, which happens a lot around here.

"People are unhappy it isn't a big name", for example. Which was absolutely not the case as to why 99% of people were pissed off yesterday.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 09:52:06
People make criticism.

People make counter criticism.

Don't think anyone's throwing a wobbly either way.
Ha very true. Chalkie has been throwing a wobbly about happy clappers for days  ;)


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 09:54:48
Most of the time it isn't arguing a counter point though, is it? Its just mocking people or complaining about them being negative....or my favourite: completely misunderstanding the reason people are unhappy and then arguing against something totally different, which happens a lot around here.

"People are unhappy it isn't a big name", for example. Which was absolutely not the case as to why 99% of people were pissed off yesterday.
If it was that simple i would agree with you but when you start saying people would defend the Rix appointment or Sandro is a bullshitter and you don't trust him because he says something you disagree with I think it's fair people have a pop from time to time in exactly the same way it's fair you do at people who defend the indefensible


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 09:55:17
Most of the time it isn't arguing a counter point though, is it? Its just mocking people or complaining about them being negative....or my favourite: completely misunderstanding the reason people are unhappy and then arguing against something totally different, which happens a lot around here.

"People are unhappy it isn't a big name", for example. Which was absolutely not the case as to why 99% of people were pissed off yesterday.

Stop throwing a wobbly mate it was a valid criticism.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 10:41:49
Stop throwing a wobbly mate it was a valid criticism.

What was? That people are complaining that it wasn't a big name? Actually the point was that wasn't what was happening. So it isn't valid.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 10:44:43
I wanted the biggest name; Johannes Vennegoor of Hesselink


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: STFC_Manc on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 10:58:52

Is he on the board? Was never clearly announced one way or the other, believe it was left as applying to EFL to be on the board.


According to the club website he isn't on the board or even mentioned and they have updated for other appointments.  The information is out there, if you looked for it.

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/club/whos-who/


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 11:00:02
According to the club website he isn't on the board or even mentioned and they have updated for other appointments.  The information is out there, if you looked for it.

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/club/whos-who/

That's fine, but he's repeatedly referred to as the vice-chairman in club communications. That would, in normal circumstances, be a board position.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 11:04:26
According to the club website he isn't on the board or even mentioned and they have updated for other appointments.  The information is out there, if you looked for it.

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/club/whos-who/

Sorry to bring this up again, but I do find it a little strange that Zavier Austin was announced as being a director and we were waiting for him to pass the Fit and Proper test, but IIRC it was never then officially announced that had happened? He's clearly involved with the club because of the Karachi thing, and him being in the new manager photo shoot, so why is his name not on the whos-who on the official website?

Anyway, probably not for the manager thread so apologies but I've typed it now and going to hit post.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: The Million Pound Man on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 11:12:55
According to the club website he isn't on the board or even mentioned and they have updated for other appointments.  The information is out there, if you looked for it.

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/club/whos-who/


Boardroom
Honorary President: Mike Spearman

Chairman: Clem Morfuni

Directors:

Non-Executive Directors: 








conclusive list. ill stop asking probing questions now  ::)


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: The Million Pound Man on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 11:16:01
Sorry to bring this up again, but I do find it a little strange that Zavier Austin was announced as being a director and we were waiting for him to pass the Fit and Proper test, but IIRC it was never then officially announced that had happened? He's clearly involved with the club because of the Karachi thing, and him being in the new manager photo shoot, so why is his name not on the whos-who on the official website?

Anyway, probably not for the manager thread so apologies but I've typed it now and going to hit post.


that article was buried too IIRC, every single other article has been tweeted- just not the one saying a convicted money launderer was taking the fit and proper test. coincidence im sure.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 11:17:49

that article was buried too IIRC, every single other article has been tweeted- just not the one saying a convicted money launderer was taking the fit and proper test. coincidence im sure.

I've added those questions to the advisory thread mate so as not to take this thread too far off piste.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: MangoRed on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 11:20:19
According to the club website he isn't on the board or even mentioned and they have updated for other appointments.  The information is out there, if you looked for it.

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/club/whos-who/


“If you looked for it” 😂😂😂😂

Maybe if you looked and paid the smallest bit of attention, or applied the slightest bit of common sense, you’d be well aware Zav Austin is well and truly in the fold of Swindon town fc, and is very instrumental in what goes on here.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 11:22:03
I'm am definitely in the glass half empty camp, that said I will give him time for him to prove himself, if we are not in a promotion challenging position around December then the pressure will be on.  

6 weeks ? (we all knew Garner was going so why wasn't the club speaking to coaches unofficially) to appoint the assistant suggests they was being turned down.

Need to hope they hit the ground running with their new data system of finding players as well, its all change but time will tell if it is for the good.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: STFC_Manc on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 11:32:09

“If you looked for it” 😂😂😂😂

Maybe if you looked and paid the smallest bit of attention, or applied the slightest bit of common sense, you’d be well aware Zav Austin is well and truly in the fold of Swindon town fc, and is very instrumental in what goes on here.

Never said he wasn't involved but he isn't a director or on the board, which is the question that was asked?


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 11:58:51
https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2021/august/club-statement---zavier-austin/

indeed, it was stated in the slightly bizarre statement that

Quote
I would like to announce that I will be applying to the EFL to make Zavier Austin a board member

in lieu of any further information, one assumes the EFL told us to get stuffed based on his past.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 12:44:50
Egbo gone to Charlton. For fuck sake, we need to start doing something.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 12:47:48
Egbo gone to Charlton. For fuck sake, we need to start doing something.
Hopefully not a sign of things to come but the club urgently need to inject some positivity around the place.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 13:03:27
Hopefully not a sign of things to come but the club urgently need to inject some positivity around the place.

They announced our new HC yesterday, what more do you want..





:D


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: MangoRed on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 13:05:29
Yesterday it was everyone loves Lindsey so the OOC players will stay 😂



Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 13:08:44
That’s one vote of no confidence.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 13:23:17
That’s one vote of no confidence.

You must be trolling?


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 13:40:35
Egbo was low hanging fruit for Garner.  Only on a short contract of convenience, not put roots down, probably not sorted out property in the area, openly stated that he wanted a higher level and his recent history shows that he thinks he should be playing higher.  Egbo has little or no affiliation with STFC or the fans or the area.

Like taking candy from a baby for Garner this one.  The others will be more challenging though not improbable.  If he wants McKirdy, Williams or Reed he has to pay a transfer fee.  If he wants Payne he will have to pay him ~£5k pw, and convince him that Charlton are not the basket case we know them to be.  I can't see anyone else that he would want at L1 level, and there are only so many of our players that he could nab before the Charlton fans clock the fact that he is building a squad full of L2 players and have more outrage than our new new manager thread.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 13:52:54
Tbh,they’re already questioning the recruitment policy. That’s 2 L2 players in 2 days.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: adje on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 14:05:13
I wanted the biggest name; Johannes Vennegoor of Hesselink
"We'll drink a drink a drink to Jan Venegoor of Hesselink......"


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 14:28:49
Egbo gone to Charlton. For fuck sake, we need to start doing something.

Hit the panic button posted the other day?


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Blunsdonsfinest on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 17:44:54
Are we honestly happy .? No
We have to trust the people who made this appointment, dare say a lot of people made a quick buck with the bookies ….
All I will say is if it works out FairPlay but it will not take much for the fan base to turn …..


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 18:44:52
Are we honestly happy .? No
We have to trust the people who made this appointment, dare say a lot of people made a quick buck with the bookies ….
All I will say is if it works out FairPlay but it will not take much for the fan base to turn …..

What are our current odds? Have they slipped back after the HC announcement?


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 18:51:04
Hit the panic button posted the other day?
Probably reads wrong. I want the club to start putting out some good news tbh as everything just seems a bit shit at the moment, I'm not worried too much about signings but theres a real shit vibe around the club again at the moment


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 19:24:37
Probably reads wrong. I want the club to start putting out some good news tbh as everything just seems a bit shit at the moment, I'm not worried too much about signings but theres a real shit vibe around the club again at the moment

Pffff didn't giving our 34 year old centre back a new deal not cheer you up no end?


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, June 21, 2022, 19:30:19
Probably reads wrong. I want the club to start putting out some good news tbh as everything just seems a bit shit at the moment, I'm not worried too much about signings but theres a real shit vibe around the club again at the moment

Patience is a virtue, find it if you can, often found in women, seldom found in a town fan.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 09:45:02
Even our intern, Jaques Somebody, has legged it to Charlton.

Are they preparing for life in L2 next season?


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 09:52:05
All the stats from last season about us scoring the most goals, most passes, most blah blah etc. We still couldn't get out of league 2. As well as the good games and decent performances we had some dire games and very poor results. Bradford, Orient, Colchester all stand out.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Tails on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 10:34:37
Jamie Day to be number 2 it looks like. Don't know if that's good or bad!


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 10:37:59
Jamie Day to be number 2 it looks like. Don't know if that's good or bad!
Long ball specialist.
Quote
Day integrated a "long-ball" style of play into the team, and although it was effective against lower ranked sides, the team struggled to maintain possession against better opposition. However, Day's tactics helped Bangladesh earn hard fought draws against India and Afghanistan during the 2023 AFC Asian Cup and 2022 World Cup joint qualifiers Day was placed on leave soon after the qualifiers.

It may have been horses for course but its polar opposite of how Scott suggested how we will play this season.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 10:40:18
Plan B?

I wonder what DV would say? :sherlock:


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 10:43:56
Plan B?  :sherlock:
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/49fqThvDIYxxtqNKge/giphy.gif)


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: ThreeDrawsMentality on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 11:07:28
Long ball specialist.
It may have been horses for course but its polar opposite of how Scott suggested how we will play this season.
His Twitter is full of vids he's liked or retweeted based around possession building up from the back. So possession based may well be his preferred style, but has ultimately worked under managers in the past who have implemented long ball styles, mainly Pennock. Which if anything could be a benefit for plan B or faster progression up the pitch.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 11:09:58
This modern football trope that teams need an identity and should try to play a set way is fucking bollocks if you ask me (I’m aware no one did)

Do what you need to do to win football matches.

Did Sir Alex Ferguson worry about his teams identity and style of play in the 90s? Did he bollocks, he tried to win football matches and he did alright with that to be fair


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 11:20:12
This modern football trope that teams need an identity and should try to play a set way is fucking bollocks if you ask me (I’m aware no one did)

Do what you need to do to win football matches.

Did Sir Alex Ferguson worry about his teams identity and style of play in the 90s? Did he bollocks, he tried to win football matches and he did alright with that to be fair
To a certain extent that is correct, you either buy players to suit your prefered style (at this level anyway) or you change your style to suit the players available to you.

Look at Lincoln under Cowley, they had a team of hoofers and niggly nasty players so they played that way, admittedly he never changed that style at Hudderfield and it cost him his job after under 1 season.

Us under Macari in Div 4....teams back then played hoofball and put a lot of high balls into our box...so Macari buys a huge commanding keeper who wasnt the best at shot stopping but could claim high crosses....it worked....we also has less talented players that were fitter than any team in all 4 leagues so we used that to win games in the last 10 mins due to fitness level.

Horses for courses.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: tans on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 11:28:47
Even our intern, Jaques Somebody, has legged it to Charlton.

Are they preparing for life in L2 next season?

Key word here. Intern. Work experience


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: theakston2k on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 11:45:47
To a certain extent that is correct, you either buy players to suit your prefered style (at this level anyway) or you change your style to suit the players available to you.

Look at Lincoln under Cowley, they had a team of hoofers and niggly nasty players so they played that way, admittedly he never changed that style at Hudderfield and it cost him his job after under 1 season.

Us under Macari in Div 4....teams back then played hoofball and put a lot of high balls into our box...so Macari buys a huge commanding keeper who wasnt the best at shot stopping but could claim high crosses....it worked....we also has less talented players that were fitter than any team in all 4 leagues so we used that to win games in the last 10 mins due to fitness level.

Horses for courses.
The fitness element is slowly being eradicated from the game unfortunately.  Next season with 5 subs you can effectively just have all your attacking players go full pelt and when they tire a little replace them all and then go again. Great for teams with money and big squads, a massive disadvantage for those without.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 11:55:57
so Macari buys a huge commanding keeper who wasnt the best at shot stopping but could claim high crosses

??


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 11:58:33
??
Kenny Allen from Torquay who was 6 foot 5 and caught everything thrown into the box at him, but not a great shot stopper and in his mid 30s at the time.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: MarkyTee on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 11:59:17
Kenny Allen from Torquay who was 6 foot 5 and caught everything thrown into the box at him, but not a great shot stopper and in his mid 30s at the time.

Kenny Allen


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 12:02:24
Was it Kenny Allen?


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 12:07:10
Kenny Allen from Torquay who was 6 foot 5 and caught everything thrown into the box at him, but not a great shot stopper and in his mid 30s at the time.

Ah Gotcha, before my time, I thought you meant Digby.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 12:22:48
Even our intern, Jaques Somebody, has legged it to Charlton.

Are they preparing for life in L2 next season?

There is a chance they take the head of strength and conditioning guy from us also as I think he is one of Garner's bois. (could be others I guess)


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 12:55:42
Kenny Allen from Torquay who was 6 foot 5 and caught everything thrown into the box at him, but not a great shot stopper and in his mid 30s at the time.
Looked mid 50’s mind.
What a character he was as well.

Shout from the TE, “how’s your golf Kenny?”
Starts simulating his golf swing :)


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 12:56:02
This modern football trope that teams need an identity and should try to play a set way is fucking bollocks if you ask me (I’m aware no one did)

Do what you need to do to win football matches.

Did Sir Alex Ferguson worry about his teams identity and style of play in the 90s? Did he bollocks, he tried to win football matches and he did alright with that to be fair

Everything has to be a brand nowerdays, doesn't it?

I don't give a flying fuck about our brand. I want to win.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 12:59:36
Everything has to be a brand nowerdays, doesn't it?

I don't give a flying fuck about our brand. I want to win.

The right response mate.
Couldn’t give a shit about our possession stats driving back from places like Barrow after losing.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 13:04:33
The thing is, a lot of the goals we scored looked great when watching replays - 20-odd passes, most going nowhere, finishing with a goal. Problem being people only remember the final pass or 2 and are bored shitless watching the previous 18.

I want to get out of my seat. I want sustained pressure with the crowd baying - sucking the ball into the net.

I don’t want cinematography, I want passion in all its glory.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 13:08:14

Wasn't Hoddle's goal v Leicester & the build up play a thing of beauty?


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 13:09:34
Everything has to be a brand nowerdays, doesn't it?

I don't give a flying fuck about our brand. I want to win.

I’d take 46 of the shittest, ugliest, boringest, low possession, fuck all passes, ball in the air 1-0 wins a season…


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 13:10:59
Wasn't Hoddle's goal v Leicester & the build up play a thing of beauty?
On second watch it was. But all I remember is Maskell’s(?) backheel and Glenn side footing it into the net.

I was well leathered, though.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: JoeMezz on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 13:15:36
The thing is, a lot of the goals we scored looked great when watching replays - 20-odd passes, most going nowhere, finishing with a goal. Problem being people only remember the final pass or 2 and are bored shitless watching the previous 18.

I want to get out of my seat. I want sustained pressure with the crowd baying - sucking the ball into the net.

I don’t want cinematography, I want passion in all its glory.

Agreed with this. My favourite football to watch is high press, high energy with balls being swung into the box. We didn't do any of that near enough last year


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 13:22:30
Agreed with this. My favourite football to watch is high press, high energy with balls being swung into the box. We didn't do any of that near enough last year
Yes, break with pace down the wings get balls into the box and actually have a fucking shot when within 25 yards of goal hoping for rebounds if the keeper gets to them, we barely shot from outside of 15 yards last season other than a couple of Reed free kicks, constantly trying to walk the ball in the net.

Fill the defence with blockers, tacklers and headers of the ball and not just passing defenders, who win the ball and  give it to the midfielders to instigate attacks and use wingers/strikers to break with speed.

I don't even care if we don't utilise corners as long as we stop THEM from scoring at corners, a real weakness we have had for a couple of seasons.

Lindsey wants agression when off the ball and fast attacks when on the ball....which on paper sounds good.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 13:23:46
I had a dark thought.

I still can’t quite get my head around the departures from the CG. We were very close to promotion this year and an extra shove this season would, in all probability, get us up.

Why leave? Chorley, why? Garner, why? The 2 Scotts (wanted to), why?

A promotion on your CV gets credit in the bank when it comes to future jobs. Embargo lifted, extra budget, club on the up, crowds massively increased. Bumming around at Charlton with a few extra quid? Really?

What if there’s something hurtling down the road that gave everybody the heeby jeebies?

What if there’s an FA points deduction coming?

Wellens fucked off when he got wind of what was happening


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Swindon Please Win on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 13:29:48
I had a dark thought.

I still can’t quite get my head around the departures from the CG. We were very close to promotion this year and an extra shove this season would, in all probability, get us up.

Why leave? Chorley, why? Garner, why? The 2 Scotts (wanted to), why?

A promotion on your CV gets credit in the bank when it comes to future jobs. Embargo lifted, extra budget, club on the up, crowds massively increased. Bumming around at Charlton with a few extra quid? Really?

What if there’s something hurtling down the road that gave everybody the heeby jeebies?

What if there’s an FA points deduction coming?

Wellens fucked off when he got wind of what was happening

Stop worrying so much. Garner got a better job offer, higher division, assume higher wages and closer to home, so no brainer for him.

It's normal for the coaches from previous to join at a new club, so nothing to worry about them looking like they were going to go.

Chorley, still going to see what he does next, wasn't the talk of him joining his old mate Wellens?


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 13:30:48
Stop worrying so much. Garner got a better job offer, higher division, assume higher wages and closer to home, so no brainer for him.
Same applies to Egbo too.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Tails on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 13:32:25
This modern football trope that teams need an identity and should try to play a set way is fucking bollocks if you ask me (I’m aware no one did)

Do what you need to do to win football matches.

Did Sir Alex Ferguson worry about his teams identity and style of play in the 90s? Did he bollocks, he tried to win football matches and he did alright with that to be fair

Alex Ferguson was at one of the biggest clubs in the world with a huge transfer budget and ridiculous YTS system. It's easy to not worry about it if you're at the top of the food chain.

Given how high the turnover of managers, players & staff are in the lower leagues (well, could argue all 4 leagues) then having an "identity" or "brand" helps keep continuity & consistency without losing too much momentum. It also makes us more attractive to Premier League clubs. I know we all hate loans, but the gap even between Premier League U23 teams and the Football League continues to get wider and to utilise these relationships is key for success now in Leagues 1 & 2. If you have lots of money then you don't have to worry about it - we don't! When we did it nearly crippled us.

It's why Southampton, Brentford & the likes remain successful despite selling most of their best players and losing managers. It's the way things are, I know we like to bang our fists and demand the old ways back but the world is moving on.


Title: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 13:32:45
Quote
I’d take 46 of the shittest, ugliest, boringest, low possession, fuck all passes, ball in the air 1-0 wins a season…
was saying to someone earlier that is take a Morrs Malpas over someone with pashuuuuuuun if it meant getting it this shit league.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 13:33:08
Same applies to Egbo too.

Would  have counted for both Scott’s too.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: RJack on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 13:34:51
Garner went to Charlton because he has roots there and a opportunity came up for him to work with people he knows. Plus it's an opportunity for him to manage a team in a higher division so can't blame him.
So say Chorley was leaving at the end of the season butwe'll never know if this was true or not.
Speculation about the Scotts going was all paper talk was it actually confirmed?
What's done is done, no point on dwelling on last season we have to move on
 



Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 13:35:32
Clearly I'm a Swindon fan but if I'm a football manager at Swindon and I get the opportunity to go to Charlton it's a no-brainer in my eyes.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 13:37:10
Quote from: Quagmire
Would  have counted for both Scott’s too.

are we really saying we have employed a manager that is only here because we couldn't agree a fee with Charlton?

I'm going with my own version of events, which is  he was always on the shortlist and hedged his bets with Charlton.

I don't necessarily believe myself


Title: Re: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Benzel on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 13:38:55
I had a dark thought.

I still can’t quite get my head around the departures from the CG. We were very close to promotion this year and an extra shove this season would, in all probability, get us up.

Why leave? Chorley, why? Garner, why? The 2 Scotts (wanted to), why?

A promotion on your CV gets credit in the bank when it comes to future jobs. Embargo lifted, extra budget, club on the up, crowds massively increased. Bumming around at Charlton with a few extra quid? Really?

What if there’s something hurtling down the road that gave everybody the heeby jeebies?

What if there’s an FA points deduction coming?

Wellens fucked off when he got wind of what was happening
Please find something to occupy your free time, I'm starting to worry about you.

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Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 13:39:53
I suppose the most baffling thing is why Charlton wanted Garner. Unable to get promoted with probably the most talented team in the league.

When they were after the Exeter fella, I could understand it - and the FGR manager being poached.

But Garner?


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 13:44:20
Please find something to occupy your free time, I'm starting to worry about you.

Sent from my CLT-L09

He's retired living on a beach in Greece probably reading this forum sitting in the sun whilst sipping a cold beer, I think it's fair that browsing this forum during that time is probably what most of us are likely to do when we get there?


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 13:46:34
Problem is, Bob, people have short memories.

When a few of us on here started posting what we believed to be worries about Power we got shouted down, despite piles of evidence he was dodgy as fuck from the beginning.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: JoeMezz on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 13:49:15
I suppose the most baffling thing is why Charlton wanted Garner. Unable to get promoted with probably the most talented team in the league.

When they were after the Exeter fella, I could understand it - and the FGR manager being poached.

But Garner?

I really struggle to see the most talented team in the league. We had a very good midfield and that was about it.

Not a prolific striker, and even worse after January. Defence was poor and keepers were decent. It was nowhere near our team under Wellens.


Title: Re: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Benzel on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 13:55:35
He's retired living on a beach in Greece probably reading this forum sitting in the sun whilst sipping a cold beer, I think it's fair that browsing this forum during that time is probably what most of us are likely to do when we get there?
Sure browse the forum, great, but cooking up theories of points deductions because a Londoner took a job in London at a bigger club in a higher division? Literally what good does that do you? Seems like a pointless(!) exercise and just generally bad for one's health.

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Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 13:56:52
I really struggle to see the most talented team in the league. We had a very good midfield and that was about it.

Not a prolific striker, and even worse after January. Defence was poor and keepers were decent. It was nowhere near our team under Wellens.
It’s a myth, much like the ‘we had a top three quality squad’ line which was being peddled by a few on Twitter when Garner left - we went through the season with only one senior striker ffs!

It was a brilliantly assembled side in the circumstances of last summers shit show - but we fell short for a reason.


Title: Re: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 13:57:42
Sure browse the forum, great, but cooking up theories of points deductions because a Londoner took a job in London at a bigger club in a higher division? Literally what good does that do you? Seems like a pointless(!) exercise and just generally bad for one's health.

Sent from my CLT-L09
See my above point re Power. Are you saying there is no chance of a points deduction when the FA finally decide.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 13:59:37
Problem is, Bob, people have short memories.

When a few of us on here started posting what we believed to be worries about Power we got shouted down, despite piles of evidence he was dodgy as fuck from the beginning.

Yeah I hear ya Aud. I tend to be quite a trustworthy person and I was caught out by Power also. The fact that there are still some 'shady' characters in the background but Power of course has been replaced by Clem is of concern.

The club have done loads right under Clem, don't get me wrong, the Advisory Board, working with the Trust etc (Who don't seem to be 'hard' enough to ask the tough questions) things on the face of it seem very rosey. But some of the stuff is just plain odd. (the Zav Austin/Pakistan thing just seems weird)


Title: Re: Re: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Benzel on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 14:07:06
See my above point re Power. Are you saying there is no chance of a points deduction when the FA finally decide.
Maybe there is, maybe there isn't but what are either of us going to be able to do about it?
I dunno, perhaps I just don't care as much any more. Even after the whole orange hat era and having Fitton and Co come in.. That managed to go tits up and now getting a seemingly sound bloke like Clem in but it's tarnished with all this Zav/Karachi shit..

I don't even know what my point is really any more. Just don't worry about it I guess.. It's bound to go to shit again at some point. Not that I think it's imminent but then I didn't open my eyes fully to Power until it was far too late.

Hey if you're kicking it Greece, sod even thinking about points deductions!

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Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 14:12:07
This is pretty much my position. The next shit storm is never far away with STFC and there's fuck all we can do about it. I'm not going to waste energy fretting about it, all you can do is go with the flow...


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 14:15:32
Not worth spending any energy on worrying about things that might be, until we know they are, and are able to do something about it.

Life is so much simpler when you focus on what you do know and what you are able to affect.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 14:19:00
This is pretty much my position. The next shit storm is never far away with STFC and there's fuck all we can do about it. I'm not going to waste energy fretting about it, all you can do is go with the flow...

Same here.
Sick to death of the club to be honest but still travelling every game.
I’ve allowed myself to get caught up in the off field issues once again and vowed I wouldn’t. Just want to support this club without another shit storm to have to consider.

Last season I started to enjoy it again.
Equally the “we are lucky to have a club” ship has sailed now and the free hit season is over.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 14:19:48
Not worth spending any energy on worrying about things that might be, until we know they are, and are able to do something about it.

Life is so much simpler when you focus on what you do know and what you are able to affect.

As always the voice of reason.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 14:43:25
Yeah I hear ya Aud. I tend to be quite a trustworthy person and I was caught out by Power also. The fact that there are still some 'shady' characters in the background but Power of course has been replaced by Clem is of concern.

The club have done loads right under Clem, don't get me wrong, the Advisory Board, working with the Trust etc (Who don't seem to be 'hard' enough to ask the tough questions) things on the face of it seem very rosey. But some of the stuff is just plain odd. (the Zav Austin/Pakistan thing just seems weird)
I think the Zav Pakistan thing is similar to the Andrew Fitton kick back. I think it's a vanity project that he hopes to unearth a gem and get a kickback from.

These are just my own personal thoughts but i think they have realised that they can run the club properly and not dodgy as such and make a profit. I have no doubt that if the plan goes as it should for them they will sell the club in a few years to people they believe have more money. There is no way there is enough money at this level to operate and also keep people like Austin Standing Hart happy like the rumours will have us believe

Just my take on things


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 14:48:51
Hard to believe that after ditching Power there are still questions to be asked.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: PHIL!!!! on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 15:01:29
Maybe there is, maybe there isn't but what are either of us going to be able to do about it?
I dunno, perhaps I just don't care as much any more. Even after the whole orange hat era and having Fitton and Co come in.. That managed to go tits up and now getting a seemingly sound bloke like Clem in but it's tarnished with all this Zav/Karachi shit..

I don't even know what my point is really any more. Just don't worry about it I guess.. It's bound to go to shit again at some point. Not that I think it's imminent but then I didn't open my eyes fully to Power until it was far too late.

Hey if you're kicking it Greece, sod even thinking about points deductions!

Sent from my CLT-L09
This is pretty much my position. The next shit storm is never far away with STFC and there's fuck all we can do about it. I'm not going to waste energy fretting about it, all you can do is go with the flow...

Likewise!

As a lurker to this forum these days, the reaction by some over the past few weeks has been really quite amazing.

Hopefully a few good news stories over the next few weeks will put a lot of supporters minds at ease, similar to last summer, only this time we actually have a few players kicking around who are really quite good! I think the Play Off hangover is still looming for some... :peace:


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Benzel on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 15:25:51
Perhaps I'm trying to play it cooler than I really am because every time 5pm rolls around I starting refreshing like a fucking mad man

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Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 15:29:09
Perhaps I'm trying to play it cooler than I really am because every time 5pm rolls around I starting refreshing like a fucking mad man

Sent from my CLT-L09

Those home socks aren't going to sponsor themselves!


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Penmans Penalties on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 15:36:26
My biggest concern over the new manager, is whether he has the contacts within the business, Garner seemed to have plenty of ex Crystal Palace options, maybe another assistant manager needs to be appointed asap, from a club with a good youth set up


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, 15:54:09
Perhaps I'm trying to play it cooler than I really am because every time 5pm rolls around I starting refreshing like a fucking mad man

Sent from my CLT-L09

It's oh so quiet....


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Red Frog on Thursday, June 23, 2022, 12:43:29
Jamie Day confirmed as new assistant manager


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, June 23, 2022, 12:47:22
Jamie Day confirmed as new assistant manager
Well hes certainly got some good experience.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: JoeMezz on Thursday, June 23, 2022, 12:55:19
Well hes certainly got some good experience.

Experience in South Asia. Could be good for the Karachi FC project


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: DiV on Thursday, June 23, 2022, 13:13:00
Cool, so let’s start the rumours.

We are interested in Mahbubur Rahman Sufil


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, June 23, 2022, 14:20:00
Very quiet on Scott Marshall - is he still here or not ?


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, June 23, 2022, 14:22:51
Very quiet on Scott Marshall - is he still here or not ?

No he’s gone. They did say in one of the interviews.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, June 23, 2022, 14:44:52
No he’s gone. They did say in one of the interviews.

Bit of a bugger for him, Garner gets a prime gig elsewhere, SL gets the prime gig here and as it stands he is on the rock n roll!


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: tans on Thursday, June 23, 2022, 14:54:04
Jason Euell leaves charlton first team coach role so im presuming that will go to Marshall


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, June 23, 2022, 15:12:04
Jason Euell leaves charlton first team coach role so im presuming that will go to Marshall

I once had a piss next to Jason Euell, never have I felt so small.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Thursday, June 23, 2022, 17:00:27
I once had a piss next to Jason Euell, never have I felt so small.
Oooh! Now who's being a racist!?  ;)

*I don't actually think it's racist, and neither was the other comment...


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, June 23, 2022, 17:06:43
Oooh! Now who's being a racist!?  ;)

*I don't actually think it's racist, and neither was the other comment...

 :D


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: swindonmaniac on Thursday, June 23, 2022, 17:44:04
I once had a piss next to Jason Euell, never have I felt so small.
You actually felt it ??.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, June 23, 2022, 17:58:47
Marshall confirmed at Charlton

Presume we got a bit of wedge


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: DiV on Thursday, June 23, 2022, 18:07:49
I once had a piss next to Jason Euell, never have I felt so small.

He’s only 6ft


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Pookemon on Thursday, June 23, 2022, 18:20:00
I once had a piss next to Jason Euell, never have I felt so small.

I went to watch Thames valley Tigers basketball team in Bracknell when I lived there about 20 years ago.

Went for a beer afterwards, took a piss and a couple of the team came and stood either side of me.   Must have been 7' tall and just as long, stood 3 foot back with knobs at my eye level.   The splashback was unreal, glad I had a coat on, had to chuck it out after though!


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Miles Mayhem on Thursday, June 23, 2022, 18:57:00
I went to watch Thames valley Tigers basketball team in Bracknell when I lived there about 20 years ago.

Went for a beer afterwards, took a piss and a couple of the team came and stood either side of me.   Must have been 7' tall and just as long, stood 3 foot back with knobs at my eye level.   The splashback was unreal, glad I had a coat on, had to chuck it out after though!

Didn’t they have washing machines in those days?


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Pookemon on Thursday, June 23, 2022, 19:00:56
Didn’t they have washing machines in those days?

Dry clean only


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: adje on Thursday, June 23, 2022, 19:03:19
He’s only 6ft
🤣


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Boeta on Thursday, June 23, 2022, 19:20:41
Sorry if I've missed it elsewhere previously, but what was the deal with Chorley resigning? Assumed he'd have a role somewhere else lined up?


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, June 23, 2022, 19:22:39
Sorry if I've missed it elsewhere previously, but what was the deal with Chorley resigning? Assumed he'd have a role somewhere else lined up?

Not sure it's ever come to light.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Pookemon on Thursday, June 23, 2022, 19:26:59
Sorry if I've missed it elsewhere previously, but what was the deal with Chorley resigning? Assumed he'd have a role somewhere else lined up?
Personal reasons were stated so could be anything.  Time will tell


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, June 24, 2022, 09:01:27
He’s only 6ft
Girth or length?


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: DiV on Friday, June 24, 2022, 11:51:57
Girth or length?

Both


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: MangoRed on Wednesday, July 6, 2022, 16:17:54
Interesting. Lindsey says there was no interview process or anything formal.

Find that bizarre as this appointment was made by Sandro and he told us what an in depth process he was carrying out. Even more strange in the sense that Sandro said in an interview he’d never met or knew of SL.



Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, July 6, 2022, 16:46:03
Giving the benefit of doubt they may have interviewed, not found anyone, then ..

nope it's a weird thing to say if that's what was said. Will have a listen tomorrow


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Matt71 on Wednesday, July 6, 2022, 16:49:04
Great opportunity to ask many questions fans want answers too and they ask a load of drivel


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: MangoRed on Wednesday, July 6, 2022, 16:52:52
Great opportunity to ask many questions fans want answers too and they ask a load of drivel

100% this.

Absolute waffle and bollocks for 30 mins. Irrelevant questions. Cheese, music, clothes and superstitions - if that’s the stuff you care about then fair fucks to you. I’m  more interested in football to be honest.

No wonder they have access to that club that they do- hardly an interrogating or informative line of questioning (not that it needs to be full of that).


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Riddick on Wednesday, July 6, 2022, 16:54:22
Great opportunity to ask many questions fans want answers too and they ask a load of drivel

Yep complete nonsense. First time i have tuned in to them, and was kinda expecting some no holds barred conversation. Will be the last time i tune in to them, complete crap.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, July 6, 2022, 17:02:31
The bloke that hosts it quite clearly just wants to be everyone’s mate. It’s cringey at times.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Trashbat? on Wednesday, July 6, 2022, 17:10:31
Another bunch of Clem’s special mates.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Wednesday, July 6, 2022, 17:12:19
Interesting. Lindsey says there was no interview process or anything formal.

Find that bizarre as this appointment was made by Sandro and he told us what an in depth process he was carrying out. Even more strange in the sense that Sandro said in an interview he’d never met or knew of SL.



It was all about the budget.
He reminds me of Mickey Pearce from only Fools and Horses.



Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Wednesday, July 6, 2022, 17:13:28
100% this.

Absolute waffle and bollocks for 30 mins. Irrelevant questions. Cheese, music, clothes and superstitions - if that’s the stuff you care about then fair fucks to you. I’m  more interested in football to be honest.

No wonder they have access to that club that they do- hardly an interrogating or informative line of questioning (not that it needs to be full of that).

I’m only interested in Standing running the Club.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: bathford on Wednesday, July 6, 2022, 17:58:13
He's retired living on a beach in Greece probably reading this forum sitting in the sun whilst sipping a cold beer, I think it's fair that browsing this forum during that time is probably what most of us are likely to do when we get there?

It worked for me.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: STFC_Manc on Wednesday, July 6, 2022, 18:05:06
It’s cringey at times.

That's a bit harsh, think he does a good job.  Could you do a better job?


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: STFC_Manc on Wednesday, July 6, 2022, 18:14:48
100% this.

Absolute waffle and bollocks for 30 mins. Irrelevant questions. Cheese, music, clothes and superstitions - if that’s the stuff you care about then fair fucks to you. I’m  more interested in football to be honest.

No wonder they have access to that club that they do- hardly an interrogating or informative line of questioning (not that it needs to be full of that).

Not everyone is about holding the club to account. The podcasts are never serious and about having fun, if you really expect them to ask the difficult questions, good luck to you.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Wednesday, July 6, 2022, 18:34:29
What questions do people want from Lindsey now then?


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: theakston2k on Wednesday, July 6, 2022, 18:35:49
I’m only interested in Standing running the Club.
I know he’s around a lot, but is it your genuine belief he’s running the show from what you’ve heard?


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: STFC_Manc on Wednesday, July 6, 2022, 18:57:11
I know he’s around a lot, but is it your genuine belief he’s running the show from what you’ve heard?

How do you 'know' he is still around? Is this another rumour?


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Wednesday, July 6, 2022, 19:06:07
I have been told by a few people that the only thing Michael Standing is interested in is the Highworth land. Could be bollocks as well who knows, problem will be that the club can answer the question and should answer the question too but we know that whatever the answer people will not believe it


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: STFC_Manc on Wednesday, July 6, 2022, 19:09:28
I have been told by a few people that the only thing Michael Standing is interested in is the Highworth land. Could be bollocks as well who knows, problem will be that the club can answer the question and should answer the question too but we know that whatever the answer people will not believe it

That would make sense, as the land is owned by Power and maybe a way for Standing to get his money out.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Wednesday, July 6, 2022, 19:26:18
That would make sense, as the land is owned by Power and maybe a way for Standing to get his money out.

If standing gets the land, maybe Clem and ST get their training ground built after all.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, July 6, 2022, 19:32:01
100% this.

Absolute waffle and bollocks for 30 mins. Irrelevant questions. Cheese, music, clothes and superstitions - if that’s the stuff you care about then fair fucks to you. I’m  more interested in football to be honest.

No wonder they have access to that club that they do- hardly an interrogating or informative line of questioning (not that it needs to be full of that).

Why don’t you start your own podcast/group/whatever and ask all these questions you desperately want answered?

What questions were we expecting the head coach to answer?


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: MangoRed on Wednesday, July 6, 2022, 19:34:46
Not everyone is about holding the club to account. The podcasts are never serious and about having fun, if you really expect them to ask the difficult questions, good luck to you.

Nah, not everyone is about holding the club to account, and some people are happy to pretend everything is rosey and these people are angles because it’s not Lee power.

This wasn’t about holding the club/owners to account though….

Back to what I actually said- if you prefer cheese, music, clothes and sock superstitions chat, instead of transfers, playing styles, season targets, contracts etc etc (the football side of things) then good for you. But I rather listen to the new manager of my football club talk about football.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: MangoRed on Wednesday, July 6, 2022, 19:40:52
Why don’t you start your own podcast/group/whatever and ask all these questions you desperately want answered?

What questions were we expecting the head coach to answer?

Desperately want answered? What the fuck are you on about? It was waffle. Simple as that. Don’t like my opinion I couldn’t give a fuck 😂 Not the only one that thought it on this forum. Not everyone’s a lovely bloke who thinks it’s a sin to say anything remotely negative about this club or  anything linked too it.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: MangoRed on Wednesday, July 6, 2022, 19:43:17
I’m only interested in Standing running the Club.

Clem, Power, Zav, Standing etc all the original same circle.

Thing is, if he is involved, he’s allowed too isnt he? As fucked up as it seems, he’s no longer registered so will get away with it, as would we, I suspect?


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: MangoRed on Wednesday, July 6, 2022, 19:47:48
You obviously wanted certain questioned asked / answering. You’re complaining about the content, so what exactly was missing that you wanted?

I think you’ve miss managed your expectations if you were expecting a fans run podcast to ask any hard hitting questions. Also the fact the interview was with the head coach who imagine is involved with little else other than the on pitch stuff. Head coaches even have little say in recruitment, so he wouldn’t have even been the right person to grill about that…

What were you expecting?

If you cannot read the above… I very clearly said the 30 mins woulda been better spent talking about football side of things, and not cheese of socks. Head coach, first team coach or team bus driver of coach… I still reckon the first two have some sort of idea with what’s going on, don’t you DIV?


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: STFC_Manc on Wednesday, July 6, 2022, 20:09:33
If you cannot read the above… I very clearly said the 30 mins woulda been better spent talking about football side of things, and not cheese of socks. Head coach, first team coach or team bus driver of coach… I still reckon the first two have some sort of idea with what’s going on, don’t you DIV?

Did you really think that a fan podcast would get an exclusive of who the head coach is trying to sign? Most people understand what the podcast is about and like it for that reason.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Wednesday, July 6, 2022, 20:11:55
Nah, not everyone is about holding the club to account, and some people are happy to pretend everything is rosey and these people are angles because it’s not Lee power.

This wasn’t about holding the club/owners to account though….

Back to what I actually said- if you prefer cheese, music, clothes and sock superstitions chat, instead of transfers, playing styles, season targets, contracts etc etc (the football side of things) then good for you. But I rather listen to the new manager of my football club talk about football.
He spoke transfers, playing style talked of setting promotion a target spoke about Jack Payne and Reed staying at the club, he spoke about targets and how it didn't feel like a proper interview but a chat when he got the job, you even twisted that into a headline about he wan't interviewed... You are moaning for the sake of it


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: JBZ on Wednesday, July 6, 2022, 20:13:35
I have a bad feeling about the 2022-2023 season.

_________________
Is it June or late September
Is it 1993
Could you help me to remember
Is this how I'm supposed to be

Sometimes I think the pain blows my mind
Pain blows my mind.

Did you ever get those cigarettes
And did you get anything for me
Will you help me to remember
When I fall into the sea.

Sometimes I think the pain blows my mind
Pain blows my mind.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: MangoRed on Wednesday, July 6, 2022, 20:13:56
Did you really think that a fan podcast would get an exclusive of who the head coach is trying to sign? Most people understand what the podcast is about and like it for that reason.

I really did think we’d get abit more football intel/insight on the club, yes stfc manc. Sorry for being so naive! Oh yes, well aware of the pod, the hosts, have listened to the “silly questions” pods and the more serious ones.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: tans on Wednesday, July 6, 2022, 20:15:42
He spoke transfers, playing style talked of setting promotion a target spoke about Jack Payne and Reed staying at the club, he spoke about targets and how it didn't feel like a proper interview but a chat when he got the job, you even twisted that into a headline about he wan't interviewed... You are moaning for the sake of it


What did he say about Payne and Reed?


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: MangoRed on Wednesday, July 6, 2022, 20:16:37
What did he say about Payne and Reed?

Payne talks ongoing and Reed should be at club come end of window, incase something big/dramatic comes in


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: MangoRed on Wednesday, July 6, 2022, 20:18:35
He spoke transfers, playing style talked of setting promotion a target spoke about Jack Payne and Reed staying at the club, he spoke about targets and how it didn't feel like a proper interview but a chat when he got the job, you even twisted that into a headline about he wan't interviewed... You are moaning for the sake of it

Twisted it 😂😂😂😂 sorry for finding it odd that Sandro, who’s never met Scott or spoken to him (by his own admission) appointed him without an interview.

FWIW, think SL comes across great. Just can’t be arsed with the BS he was no 1/ a standout target of SDMs.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Wednesday, July 6, 2022, 20:30:40
I heard it as it wasn't a formal interview but he rang him when he was on the course and had an informal chat then offerred him the job off the back of it. Absolutely no way he was first choice i ageee


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: dalumpimunki on Wednesday, July 6, 2022, 20:36:24
Mango. Have you ever considered that when you find yourself having posted 8 of the last dozen posts in a discussion, including posting four entries in a row that you might have lost it a bit?


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: MangoRed on Wednesday, July 6, 2022, 20:38:31
Mango. Have you ever considered that when you find yourself having posted 8 of the last dozen posts in a discussion, including posting four entries in a row that you might have lost it a bit?


dalumpimunki

4 in a row was replies, and when 3 people decide to take issue with what I’ve said (whilst 4 other people say the exact same thing) , I think I’m quite alright to respond to all of them.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Wednesday, July 6, 2022, 20:41:28
I only took issue because he discussed the things you said he didn't


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: MangoRed on Wednesday, July 6, 2022, 20:46:55
I only took issue because he discussed the things you said he didn't

But come on, it was very, very brief.

That aside, Take issue all you want mate, open forum, could have 20 people telling me they don’t like what I said, it’s fine, opinions and arseholes.  And If someone ever wanted to have it out that badly face to face, that’s fine too, at every home and 90% of aways so I’d happily oblige 😂.

People seem to forget we’re allowed differing views.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Kinky Tom on Wednesday, July 6, 2022, 21:12:53
I've just listened to the STBL, in a 34 minute show they spent 28 minutes talking football, how SL may differ from BG in management style, style SL wants to play, how we might try to sell the club to prospective players, that players involved last season are at the forefront of training currently, I actually enjoyed listening to it.  

After the initial 28 minutes there were some questions about superstitions and cheese and whatnot but even in those last few minutes there was a question about getting in another coach to help them, they're talking to someone at the moment to that end apparently, let's hope that's Bamba.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Benzel on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 07:06:34
I kinda get where Mango is coming from tbh, when I heard what SL said I thought well that doesn't seem to tally with what Sandro said on the same pod but it could just be an overly simplified version of events.

Sent from my CLT-L09


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 08:38:57
Clem, Power, Zav, Standing etc all the original same circle.

Thing is, if he is involved, he’s allowed too isnt he? As fucked up as it seems, he’s no longer registered so will get away with it, as would we, I suspect?

Don't forget Adam Hart.

I'd almost be more comfortable with Standing still being involved if we knew Adam Hart was definitely gone. That seems much much darker.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 08:41:29
I kinda get where Mango is coming from tbh, when I heard what SL said I thought well that doesn't seem to tally with what Sandro said on the same pod but it could just be an overly simplified version of events.

Which is part of Sandro coming across as a bit of a spiv.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 09:02:17
Don't forget Adam Hart.

I'd almost be more comfortable with Standing still being involved if we knew Adam Hart was definitely gone. That seems much much darker.
I hear AH will be here again this season 100%
Which is part of Sandro coming across as a bit of a spiv.
That is how he comes accross to me too, no idea why but every time I listen to him I hear a watered down Lee Power (not suggesting he has the motives of LP or is even connected to him in any way).


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: theakston2k on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 09:07:26
I hear AH will be here again this season 100%That is how he comes accross to me too, no idea why but every time I listen to him I hear a watered down Lee Power (not suggesting he has the motives of LP or is even connected to him in any way).
Wasn’t he the spokesman for SkyBet when he was there so imagine taking bollocks comes naturally to him. He seems a bit of a glorified data analyst and doesn’t actually seem like a football person which is my primary concern. Time will tell if his appointment has any legs.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Berniman on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 09:10:09
I haven't listened yet, but let's face it, the club (or the Trust) wouldn't have allowed Scott to appear on the PC if the remit was to grill him - the only reason this happened was that it was supposed to be a bit of fun and to hear Scott's voice, anyone that was expecting anything different is just not good a reading the room.

There is a reason that TSTBL has as much access to the club as it does, and fair play to them, they have spotted their niche and have embraced it.  Town fans are lucky to have as much content as they do compared to years gone by, and I think a lot of it was motivated by the lack of content coming from the club itself recently, the fans said, if the club won't do it, we will.

People just need to see it for what it is and decide what type of content they want to listen to, or just listen to all of it, just try to understand what space those content providers sit in to determine the type of content you will get.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: MangoRed on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 09:10:26
Don't forget Adam Hart.

I'd almost be more comfortable with Standing still being involved if we knew Adam Hart was definitely gone. That seems much much darker.

Oh yes, can’t forget him.

Noticed him in the gym video released by club yesterday….


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: MangoRed on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 09:12:11
I hear AH will be here again this season 100%That is how he comes accross to me too, no idea why but every time I listen to him I hear a watered down Lee Power (not suggesting he has the motives of LP or is even connected to him in any way).

And me three on SDM. Three interviews I’ve listened to of his and not that impressed. Lindsey the complete opposite however- think he comes across brilliantly.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Tails on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 09:20:00
I’m only interested in Standing running the Club.

He isn't.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 09:35:36
Adam Hart is part of the company that runs the fitness, isn't he? Is it anyone with a criminal past that people don't want associated with the club

What can the club say here that would put their put their mind at ease or is it a case of just wanting them gone.

Just intrigued to know really, for me personally if the accounts and everything else show that the club is being run above board and money is not missing and being reinvested accordingly then if there isn't proof that anyone has been involved in anything since prior convictions a long time ago i would be willing to keep a really close eye on it

That being said would i prefer there to be anyone with a past like that close to the club, absolutely not and in no way can i blame anyone for having these major doubts and asking the questions out loudly, i am glad they are being asked and i will be as upset as anyone if they are not answered but we are where we are and if our current owner thinks he can run the club and control them whilst not putting the club at risk then let's at least see

My honest opinion is that as the owner he wants us to be seen as running self sufficiently with nice healthy looking accounts with no grey areas so after redevelopment they can sell the club to wealthier better people, until then we need to let him deal with the ones fans dont like


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Tails on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 09:39:10
Adam Hart is part of the company that runs the fitness, isn't he? Is it anyone with a criminal past that people don't want associated with the club

What can the club say here that would put their put their mind at ease or is it a case of just wanting them gone.

Just intrigued to know really, for me personally if the accounts and everything else show that the club is being run above board and money is not missing and being reinvested accordingly then if there isn't proof that anyone has been involved in anything since prior convictions a long time ago i would be willing to keep a really close eye on it

That being said would i prefer there to be anyone with a past like that close to the club, absolutely not and in no way can i blame anyone for having these major doubts and asking the questions out loudly, i am glad they are being asked and i will be as upset as anyone if they are not answered but we are where we are and if our current owner thinks he can run the club and control them whilst not putting the club at risk then let's at least see

My honest opinion is that as the owner he wants us to be seen as running self sufficiently with nice healthy looking accounts with no grey areas so after redevelopment they can sell the club to wealthier better people, until then we need to let him deal with the ones fans dont like

Yep he's employed by Ricky McFarlane's company who are employed by the club.

FWIW he's quite well liked and does a good job. Not sure if that'll put anyone's mind at ease. I quizzed a few people as I shared the same concerns and seems like he's reformed. I dont know if its true or not, I've never met him.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Krays on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 09:43:47
Adam Hart is part of the company that runs the fitness, isn't he? Is it anyone with a criminal past that people don't want associated with the club
But we aren't talking about just another ex criminal are we?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/revealed-the-uk-s-10-most-wanted-in-new-costa-del-crime-998215.html

It takes a lot to be in Britains 10 most wanted men alive at any point, even the Krays (!) didn't achieve that honour.

We aren't talking about Chippenham Town level offending, we are talking about Manchester City style offending, thats why fans are worried.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Mark Hanrahan on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 10:02:45
Interesting reading the varied / contrasting feedback on last night. All views consumed,  understood and appreciated.

Quite a few of you good folk know me from on here (historically), in the stands, the FFT sponsorship days or Twitter. What you see is what you get. No apologies for that if the show or I’m not your cup of tea. I / we try to appeal to a broad church (which has topped 8k on occasion) of listeners. Can’t please you all… but sincerely, we do try.

In the spirit of transparency, I’m happy to get on a call with anyone that wants to discuss our content, my integrity and/or history as a Town Fan. Drop me a Twitter DM with your details and I’ll make time for us. Sincere and open offer.

You’ll notice we talked about forward plans and access TSTBL will enjoy across  the coming season. In many ways, last night was about making decent introductions. Laying foundations on  which the show will build from. In short, there’s plenty more to come.

Cheers… and COYR.

Hanners


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 10:05:18
But we aren't talking about just another ex criminal are we?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/revealed-the-uk-s-10-most-wanted-in-new-costa-del-crime-998215.html

It takes a lot to be in Britains 10 most wanted men alive at any point, even the Krays (!) didn't achieve that honour.

We aren't talking about Chippenham Town level offending, we are talking about Manchester City style offending, thats why fans are worried.

I have not been following this so probably already been answered, but is is it the same Adam Hart as he has gone some getting from being on the run in 2008 to doing time for serious crime and being released by 2022?

And is he just an employee of the company who provide fitness services to the club, so what influence does he actually have?


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 10:06:20
But we aren't talking about just another ex criminal are we?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/revealed-the-uk-s-10-most-wanted-in-new-costa-del-crime-998215.html

It takes a lot to be in Britains 10 most wanted men alive at any point, even the Krays (!) didn't achieve that honour.

We aren't talking about Chippenham Town level offending, we are talking about Manchester City style offending, thats why fans are worried.
Whilst i totally agree with you it's not fucking good at all we are also talking about nearly 15 years ago. I have not disagreed and said i get why fans are worried,even said i'd rather not here but maybe it's because my past i have seen many people change and trust a bit more who knows



Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 10:11:46
Is it any different to potentially being served a burger from one of the kiosks by a potential criminal?
The food kiosks were out sourced - the same way the fitness etc is.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but the only reason this has come out is due to a photo, if that wasn’t taken, no one would have a clue.

I’m not overly worried that an ex criminal is stood with a stop-watch timing how quickly the players run a couple of times a week in all honesty.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 10:18:22
Well, if it’s outsourced he shouldn’t really be wearing STFC kit. It makes him appear as if he is directly associated with the club.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: theakston2k on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 10:22:20
Adam Hart is part of the company that runs the fitness, isn't he? Is it anyone with a criminal past that people don't want associated with the club

But it’s not just that is it, he has been a director on one of Austin’s ‘construction’ companies prior to being involved with the club so the relationship goes beyond the McFarlane thing. Having Austin and a business partner at the club with very similar criminal records is a bit concerning when judging it simply on the facts at hand is it not?


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 10:27:15
But it’s not just that is it, he has been a director on one of Austin’s ‘construction’ companies prior to being involved with the club so the relationship goes beyond the McFarlane thing. Having Austin and a business partner at the club with very similar criminal records is a bit concerning when judging it simply on the facts at hand is it not?
It is and i have not said otherwise?  I have even said what i think will be the outcome and if that means people like Hart and Austin get rewarded by our current owner once the club has been sold then so be it. Like i also said as well though, if it transpires that all of a sudden the accounts look shocking and we are in debt to these people then yes it's not on but as things stand looking at the accounts and the AB notes all money the club get is accounted for isn't it?


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Trashbat? on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 10:32:07
Adam Hart is part of the company that runs the fitness, isn't he? Is it anyone with a criminal past that people don't want associated with the club

Interesting that if that is his only role, he has been at a number of commercial evenings engaging with potential sponsors


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: china red on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 10:36:01
Interesting reading the varied / contrasting feedback on last night. All views consumed,  understood and appreciated.

Quite a few of you good folk know me from on here (historically), in the stands, the FFT sponsorship days or Twitter. What you see is what you get. No apologies for that if the show or I’m not your cup of tea. I / we try to appeal to a broad church (which has topped 8k on occasion) of listeners. Can’t please you all… but sincerely, we do try.

In the spirit of transparency, I’m happy to get on a call with anyone that wants to discuss our content, my integrity and/or history as a Town Fan. Drop me a Twitter DM with your details and I’ll make time for us. Sincere and open offer.

You’ll notice we talked about forward plans and access TSTBL will enjoy across  the coming season. In many ways, last night was about making decent introductions. Laying foundations on  which the show will build from. In short, there’s plenty more to come.

Cheers… and COYR.

Hanners


When will it be available to listen back?


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 10:39:00
I hear AH will be here again this season 100%That is how he comes accross to me too, no idea why but every time I listen to him I hear a watered down Lee Power (not suggesting he has the motives of LP or is even connected to him in any way).

Jesus. Standing seems like a breeze compared to Harts background. I'm surprised people aren't more worried about him.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 10:40:39
Interesting that if that is his only role, he has been at a number of commercial evenings engaging with potential sponsors
Yep likely that he has, and like the rest of the post says the club should clarify it


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: theakston2k on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 10:41:34
Interesting that if that is his only role, he has been at a number of commercial evenings engaging with potential sponsors
And herein is the problem and I fail to believe it isn’t a problem. If you are a potential sponsor or investor with no pre-existing links to the club and you do a background search on Austin and Hart and see their background you are going to run a mile.

Ultimately for any redevelopment to happen at the CG a massive capital raise is going to be needed either via investors or finance as no one involved with the club has that sort of money. The involvement of these individuals in the club must be a red flag to potential sources of finance.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Batch on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 10:41:54
Interesting that if that is his only role, he has been at a number of commercial evenings engaging with potential sponsors

New information.

A bit odd for a fitness coach if true (I assume you know its true).
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If he's just an employee of a third party fitness company that's OK isn't it?


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 10:44:02
But we aren't talking about just another ex criminal are we?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/revealed-the-uk-s-10-most-wanted-in-new-costa-del-crime-998215.html

It takes a lot to be in Britains 10 most wanted men alive at any point, even the Krays (!) didn't achieve that honour.

We aren't talking about Chippenham Town level offending, we are talking about Manchester City style offending, thats why fans are worried.

Be plenty of good gear flying about for the season anyway for those inclined.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 10:47:01
Jesus. Standing seems like a breeze compared to Harts background. I'm surprised people aren't more worried about him.
TBF me and you both know and still associate with people we know damn well were involved in that sort of stuff on a smaller level.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 10:49:52
TBF me and you both know and still associate with people we know damn well were involved in that sort of stuff on a smaller level.

Being completely honest, I couldn't give a flying fuck if he still moves gear about now. Especially if he is really is just an employee of a firm the club employees. As said above its no different from someone flipping a burger having a criminal past.

My primary concern is us getting fleeced by unsavoury characters.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 11:54:30
He isn't.

I guess time will tell.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 11:55:41
Jesus. Standing seems like a breeze compared to Harts background. I'm surprised people aren't more worried about him.

May be surprising but on current grounds only heard positive comments.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: MangoRed on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 12:14:10
Good ol Swindon 😅. Somethings never change, aye?


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 12:18:32
Me too, and i have no shame in saying i have met him a few times and he was lovely.  There is a very good chance he has fucked up hugely and has looking at it not since.

I also agree with Chalkie though i don't want anyone fleecing this club and i suppose this is where it comes down to trusting the current owner. I don't believe he will do anything that isn't legit and his career and businesses over the years suggest it's all above board.... He inherited these guys and i have no doubt has probably made a deal with the devil as such and told them he will look after them for helping


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 12:19:10
Good ol Swindon 😅. Somethings never change, aye?
Ha always been the way isn't it. Would love a normal 12 months Mango


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: STFC_Manc on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 12:19:37
I haven't listened yet, but let's face it, the club (or the Trust) wouldn't have allowed Scott to appear on the PC if the remit was to grill him - the only reason this happened was that it was supposed to be a bit of fun and to hear Scott's voice, anyone that was expecting anything different is just not good a reading the room.

There is a reason that TSTBL has as much access to the club as it does, and fair play to them, they have spotted their niche and have embraced it.  Town fans are lucky to have as much content as they do compared to years gone by, and I think a lot of it was motivated by the lack of content coming from the club itself recently, the fans said, if the club won't do it, we will.

People just need to see it for what it is and decide what type of content they want to listen to, or just listen to all of it, just try to understand what space those content providers sit in to determine the type of content you will get.

What has the Trust got to do with what show the head coach appears on?


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Berniman on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 13:12:08
What has the Trust got to do with what show the head coach appears on?

The trust have their say on what platforms the club should be aligning itself with, whether that is heeded by the club is another thing.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 13:20:18
That would explain why neither Sandro or Lindsey have appeared on the Loathed Strangers so far then!


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: JanAirplaneMan on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 13:23:17
The trust have their say on what platforms the club should be aligning itself with, whether that is heeded by the club is another thing.
Do we? We have never done that. The club and their media manager decide on this. Never have we ever had any input and we should never do that.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Berniman on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 13:26:30
Do we? We have never done that. The club and their media manager decide on this. Never have we ever had any input and we should never do that.

You are right, you shouldn't..


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Berniman on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 13:32:14
That would explain why neither Sandro or Lindsey have appeared on the Loathed Strangers so far then!

Still on the naughty step..


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 13:40:18
Still on the naughty step..

What did LS Pod do to upset the club?


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 13:57:04
I have just asked Rich P if they are on the naughty step. Have they even asked people on? Be a real shame if they have and are being refused.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Berniman on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 13:58:40
What did LS Pod do to upset the club?

They haven't upset the club


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Batch on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 14:04:37
Quote from: Quagmire
What did LS Pod do to upset the trust?

FIFY


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Berniman on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 14:05:34
:D


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Berniman on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 14:06:21
I'll let Jan answer that, he is the one in the know..


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 14:17:28
Ohhh… I’ve missed this..


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 14:20:16
I'll let Jan answer that, he is the one in the know..

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Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: STFC_Manc on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 14:46:36
The trust have their say on what platforms the club should be aligning itself with, whether that is heeded by the club is another thing.

How do you know this? Seems rather odd.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Berniman on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 15:00:15
How do you know this? Seems rather odd.

It's no coincidence that some platforms are less/more engaged based on the type of content they put out.  It's much easier to work with a content provider that doesn't question the manner of your involvement.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: STFC_Manc on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 15:06:28
It's no coincidence that some platforms are less/more engaged based on the type of content they put out.  It's much easier to work with a content provider that doesn't question the manner of your involvement.

It seems like you have an axe to grind and just making stuff up


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Berniman on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 15:08:20
It seems like you have an axe to grind and jump making stuff up

Yeah, that will be it..  Yet, you seem very protective if anyone questions the trust..  tbf though, that is very trust like..


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: STFC_Manc on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 15:13:18
Yeah, that will be it..  Yet, you seem very protective if anyone questions the trust..  tbf though, that is very trust like..

Sorry I forgot I can't question anyone these days..


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Berniman on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 15:16:30
Sorry I forgot I can't question anyone these days..

Hold up, i've answered all questions?  And responded to your assumption about me, if you are going to throw accusations around, at least back them up - don't act all offended when i respond to them directly.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Tails on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 15:23:03
The trust have their say on what platforms the club should be aligning itself with, whether that is heeded by the club is another thing.

This is absolutely not true.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 15:26:02
Fuck sake, can we set up a misery/conspiracy thread or something, on the ever more rare occasions I log on it seems to be the same thing repeated in every sodding thread!


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 15:26:59
Usual pre season bollocks.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: MangoRed on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 15:27:29
Yeah, that will be it..  Yet, you seem very protective if anyone questions the trust..  tbf though, that is very trust like..

Some people on here get so touchy if something negative is said about the trust. It’s odd. We are the supporters for fuck sake, we pay them and they are supposed to represent us, if we feel they ain’t doing that, we are more than in our rights to say.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Tails on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 15:29:03
Some people on here get so touchy if something negative is said about the trust. It’s odd. We are the supporters for fuck sake, we pay them and they are supposed to represent us, if we feel they ain’t doing that, we are more than in our rights to say.

Whilst I agree with the point of holding them to account, it's a bit frustrating when you have people who are just blindly making shit up.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Berniman on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 15:31:49
Whilst I agree with the point of holding them to account, it's a bit frustrating when you have people who are just blindly making shit up.

In your opinion


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Tails on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 15:33:09
In your opinion

You stating something that you (or someone you know) made up and posting in here as fact is not an opinion.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Batch on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 15:39:52
You stating something that you (or someone you know) made up and posting in here as fact is not an opinion.

So what specifically are you saying is opinion?

If that in response to Bernie's post re: LSP or something else?


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Berniman on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 15:40:06
You stating something that you (or someone you know) made up and posting in here as fact is not an opinion.

I refer you to the quote below in my signature.  You are doing more stating of facts on here than me.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 15:41:35
I'm surprised Boris didn't try that line, he loves a good classical quote as well.


Title: Re: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Benzel on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 15:43:38
You are right, you shouldn't..
Didn't even have the grace to apologise for the rubbish you posted. Yikes.

Sent from my CLT-L09


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Batch on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 15:44:25
Sent from my CLT-L09

Dude, nobody cares about your phone


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: JanAirplaneMan on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 15:44:56
In your opinion
Its not true.. but that doesn't matter unfortunately for some. Constructive criticism is always welcome when its worthy of discussion or based on fact, but untrue or made up statements just for effect is not on.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Tails on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 15:45:09
So what specifically are you saying is opinion?

If that in response to Bernie's post re: LSP or something else?

"The trust have their say on what platforms the club should be aligning itself with, whether that is heeded by the club is another thing."

This is an untrue statement put on here as a fact. Berniman can pretend it's "just his opinion" but I can tell you for a fact it isn't true.

But whatever - if people want to post bullshit and hide behind the quotes of a long dead Roman Emperor then carry on. Suppose it's appropriate given the amount of misinformation being posted on here lately!


Title: Re: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Benzel on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 15:45:48
Dude, nobody cares about your phone
Weird, it only ever shows that if I edit a post and then I usually delete it. I'll have to have a look through the settings on Tapatalk.

Sent from my CLT-L09


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Batch on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 15:47:45
@tails, thanks for clarifying

@Benzel - I see what you did there :)


Title: Re: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Benzel on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 15:51:41
@tails, thanks for clarifying

@Benzel - I see what you did there :)
That makes one of us 😅

Whey there we go.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Berniman on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 16:09:42
Its not true.. but that doesn't matter unfortunately for some. Constructive criticism is always welcome when its worthy of discussion or based on fact, but untrue or made up statements just for effect is not on.

I look forward to the engagement with all platforms moving forward then if what you say is fact - good to hear that your stance has changed.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 17:20:14
As a lapsed member who hasn't engaged with the Trust for some time, it does appear (from the outside) that they are perhaps less inclined to ask the difficult questions when one of their own now runs the club day to day.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: JanAirplaneMan on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 19:06:42
As a lapsed member who hasn't engaged with the Trust for some time, it does appear (from the outside) that they are perhaps less inclined to ask the difficult questions when one of their own now runs the club day to day.
If you read back you will see that all tough questions in a large quantity have been asked for the club, and open and honest responses have been received. These will be published in the AB minutes in approx. 7-10 days as well as via our channels. I then hope comments such as this will be put to bed. Thanks.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: JanAirplaneMan on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 19:15:36
I look forward to the engagement with all platforms moving forward then if what you say is fact - good to hear that your stance has changed.
As previously stated we have no interest and nor should we in what channels the club use to communicate on, that's their media managers job. Like I said suggesting we had input/influence here is simply not true Therefore what they use is 100% their own choice. So whatever view we have on all the Pods has no impact on the clubs choice of who they engage with. Certainly the club will work with whoever they feel best presents and supports the topics they wish to get out there to fans. Suggest if you want more information on that and how they engage with external pods etc you contact Dave the new media manager.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: RobertT on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 19:20:50
Ooh, my account is working again, what great timing.

Here is a good example of the changes I can see in the Trust, as a very outside observer.

2005-2007 - significant investigation and pressure applied to understand the financial situation of the club and those involved in making key decisions.   Ultimately a lot of significant concern was dug-up about who was controlling the club, Mr M Diamandis.

2022 - Club brings onboard a Senior Exec who has been previously convicted of Money Laundering (an offence I would personally suggest should prevent you from being engaged with a "cash" murky business such as football), who in turn has a known Drug Dealer of old as a friend/business colleague at a company the club employs.  That Exec also, out of the blue because a friend told him it might be a good idea, trots off to Pakistan to find new "talent" with the aim of bringing two 15 year old kids back to the UK.  A process requiring Visa's for that individual and maybe a trailing family in a a known murky world where cash can exchange hands to get hold of Visa's.

Now, I am not saying the second example ends badly, it could all be just as described (which would simply mean it looks dodgy as shit and certainly not something a club still in debt needs to be chasing around after), but it requires far more investigation than asking if it is all above board and accepting any answer.  It also should not require a Trust, who aim to get into bed in a 50/50 deal to purchase the freehold (a great goal by the way), to wait several months of being badgered to ask those questions.  Yes, it may fuck off the club to dig around, but I'd sure as hell want to know everything I possibly could before getting into bed with that kind of decision maker of a business.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: RobertT on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 19:21:59
As previously stated we have no interest and nor should we in what channels the club use to communicate on, that's their media managers job. Like I said suggesting we had input/influence here is simply not true Therefore what they use is 100% their own choice. So whatever view we have on all the Pods has no impact on the clubs choice of who they engage with. Certainly the club will work with whoever they feel best presents and supports the topics they wish to get out there to fans. Suggest if you want more information on that and how they engage with external pods etc you contact Dave the new media manager.

He was suggesting the Trust was picking and choosing, not the club.  That's how I read it.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Frigby Daser on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 19:29:20
Ooh, my account is working again, what great timing.

Here is a good example of the changes I can see in the Trust, as a very outside observer.

2005-2007 - significant investigation and pressure applied to understand the financial situation of the club and those involved in making key decisions.   Ultimately a lot of significant concern was dug-up about who was controlling the club, Mr M Diamandis.

2022 - Club brings onboard a Senior Exec who has been previously convicted of Money Laundering (an offence I would personally suggest should prevent you from being engaged with a "cash" murky business such as football), who in turn has a known Drug Dealer of old as a friend/business colleague at a company the club employs.  That Exec also, out of the blue because a friend told him it might be a good idea, trots off to Pakistan to find new "talent" with the aim of bringing two 15 year old kids back to the UK.  A process requiring Visa's for that individual and maybe a trailing family in a a known murky world where cash can exchange hands to get hold of Visa's.

Now, I am not saying the second example ends badly, it could all be just as described (which would simply mean it looks dodgy as shit and certainly not something a club still in debt needs to be chasing around after), but it requires far more investigation than asking if it is all above board and accepting any answer.  It also should not require a Trust, who aim to get into bed in a 50/50 deal to purchase the freehold (a great goal by the way), to wait several months of being badgered to ask those questions.  Yes, it may fuck off the club to dig around, but I'd sure as hell want to know everything I possibly could before getting into bed with that kind of decision maker of a business.


Sums up my thoughts exactly. I understand the Trust frustration at fans pointing fingers, after all the hard work they’ve put in. But - of all people, those involved in the Trust should appreciate that the lack of trust in the regime simply will not go away whilst Austin and Hart are anywhere near the club. The club will
inevitably trot out answers that it was a long time ago, and how they have the best intentions, but if that’s your way of doing business, and those are the circles you move in, I don’t think the club can be safe with them about.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 19:35:01
Sums up my thoughts exactly. I understand the Trust frustration at fans pointing fingers, after all the hard work they’ve put in. But - of all people, those involved in the Trust should appreciate that the lack of trust in the regime simply will not go away whilst Austin and Hart are anywhere near the club. The club will
inevitably trot out answers that it was a long time ago, and how they have the best intentions, but if that’s your way of doing business, and those are the circles you move in, I don’t think the club can be safe with them about.
And this is the problem summed up. Our current owner clearly believes that he can run the club without them causing any issues, as you have said yourself there, why should they trot out any answers if people are just going to dismiss whatever they say.

The Trust in my opinion should be keeping an eye on things and from what the guy above has said they have asked all these questions and they believe the club has asked them, if that is the case then fair enough . Problem is that the Trust will now be hit with a stick when the answers are not to peoples liking


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: RobertT on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 19:40:36
And this is the problem summed up. Our current owner clearly believes that he can run the club without them causing any issues, as you have said yourself there, why should they trot out any answers if people are just going to dismiss whatever they say.

The Trust in my opinion should be keeping an eye on things and from what the guy above has said they have asked all these questions and they believe the club has asked them, if that is the case then fair enough . Problem is that the Trust will now be hit with a stick when the answers are not to peoples liking

Asking "is it a bit dodgy?" isn't going to get any sort of useful answers though, is it?

A bit of external digging is required.  Asking to be put in touch with the Pakistan club for example - one which doesn't seem to exist (a great example of why alarm bells should have been going off when announced).  You don't have to be the clubs friend on everything, even as a potential future joint venture partner.  I'd also want a one on one with Austin to really dig into the details of the partnership in Pakistan and his own background.  He can refuse of course.  The trust should have wanted to do all that, long ago.  It's precisely why we have an OSC as well.  The Trust doesn't always have to play nicely.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: JanAirplaneMan on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 19:43:05
Sums up my thoughts exactly. I understand the Trust frustration at fans pointing fingers, after all the hard work they’ve put in. But - of all people, those involved in the Trust should appreciate that the lack of trust in the regime simply will not go away whilst Austin and Hart are anywhere near the club. The club will
inevitably trot out answers that it was a long time ago, and how they have the best intentions, but if that’s your way of doing business, and those are the circles you move in, I don’t think the club can be safe with them about.
The Trust board 100% understand fans views, we ask the tough questions and will continue to do that, but we are a volunteer group of fans who will hold the club to account but we don't own STFC, Clem does and therefore we can feedback fans views (which we do and have, and will continue to do, as the OSC do), however who the club employ and work with is their choice and not the Trust or OSCs. We ensure fans views are known and represented, we ask the questions (even the tough ones), we forcibly provide the fans and our views on matters, but if the club disagree then that's their choice and prerogative. We do as much as we can and most of the time the club listen to us and the OSC and the club reacts and adjusts their stance based on fans feedback. However we cannot guarantee this will occur on all accounts. This is a fact of life we have to accept.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: The Million Pound Man on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 19:47:25
Asking "is it a bit dodgy?" isn't going to get any sort of useful answers though, is it?

A bit of external digging is required.  Asking to be put in touch with the Pakistan club for example - one which doesn't seem to exist (a great example of why alarm bells should have been going off when announced).  You don't have to be the clubs friend on everything, even as a potential future joint venture partner.  I'd also want a one on one with Austin to really dig into the details of the partnership in Pakistan and his own background.  He can refuse of course.  The trust should have wanted to do all that, long ago.  It's precisely why we have an OSC as well.  The Trust doesn't always have to play nicely.


Bingo. Shouldn't have been forced to ask these awkward questions, should have done off their own backs.... scrutiny is constructive, after all if Clem and Co are the real deal there should be nothing to hide


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Private Fraser on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 19:54:04
The Trust board 100% understand fans views, we ask the tough questions and will continue to do that, but we are a volunteer group of fans who will hold the club to account but we don't own STFC, Clem does and therefore we can feedback fans views (which we do and have, and will continue to do, as the OSC do), however who the club employ and work with is their choice and not the Trust or OSCs. We ensure fans views are known and represented, we ask the questions (even the tough ones), we forcibly provide the fans and our views on matters, but if the club disagree then that's their choice and prerogative. We do as much as we can and most of the time the club listen to us and the OSC and the club reacts and adjusts their stance based on fans feedback. However we cannot guarantee this will occur on all accounts. This is a fact of life we have to accept.

But, If the Club want the Trust to join them in a 50/50 venture to own the ground, you have a pretty good bargaining chip don't you? Thanks for engaging with us here, though.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 19:54:35
Asking "is it a bit dodgy?" isn't going to get any sort of useful answers though, is it?

A bit of external digging is required.  Asking to be put in touch with the Pakistan club for example - one which doesn't seem to exist (a great example of why alarm bells should have been going off when announced).  You don't have to be the clubs friend on everything, even as a potential future joint venture partner.  I'd also want a one on one with Austin to really dig into the details of the partnership in Pakistan and his own background.  He can refuse of course.  The trust should have wanted to do all that, long ago.  It's precisely why we have an OSC as well.  The Trust doesn't always have to play nicely.
Yeah that is very fair


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Frigby Daser on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 20:15:38
The Trust board 100% understand fans views, we ask the tough questions and will continue to do that, but we are a volunteer group of fans who will hold the club to account but we don't own STFC, Clem does and therefore we can feedback fans views (which we do and have, and will continue to do, as the OSC do), however who the club employ and work with is their choice and not the Trust or OSCs. We ensure fans views are known and represented, we ask the questions (even the tough ones), we forcibly provide the fans and our views on matters, but if the club disagree then that's their choice and prerogative. We do as much as we can and most of the time the club listen to us and the OSC and the club reacts and adjusts their stance based on fans feedback. However we cannot guarantee this will occur on all accounts. This is a fact of life we have to accept.

Agree completely with this too. There’s only so hard the Trust can press the issue, because otherwise any access we currently have gets denied and then it really sours things. It’s a tightrope to tread. I’m mainly just disappointed that the dream we were sold by Morfuni last summer isn’t as rosy as it seemed. Far from it. It’s potentially as bad as Power, Diamandis, etc, but with a marketing gloss.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Berniman on Thursday, July 7, 2022, 21:06:54
He was suggesting the Trust was picking and choosing, not the club.  That's how I read it.

Almost correct yes, not really picking or choosing, that is not a fact, I have been scolded about stating as fact.  I would say influencing.. call it bullshit, call it made up, call it what you want, but i have seen it in action.

Anyway, to avoid throwing shade on anyone I am going to leave the subject there.. I am not one to call somebody out on a public forum.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: MangoRed on Monday, July 18, 2022, 16:21:54
Solid interview with Vic Morgan and Lindsey that, straight to the point on everything. Lindsey speaks really well and grows on me everytime he does an interview. Straightforward, honest and comes across well- clear he wants to keep engaging with fans. Hard to dislike him. Just hope all this matches up with his capabilities as a manager, as if they do- it should be a good season 👍.

Macdonald and a number 9 and we are all set it seems.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Monday, July 18, 2022, 19:27:33
Summary of Lindsey interview:

- Khan can play in same position as Payne but is different
- Won't make another signing in midfield as we have good numbers and balance
- Midfield is complete

Other deals?
- Centre half and a striker
- One is very close
- Will have budget if someone comes available on last day of the window
- Made an enquiry early on about Simpson. Too high a price tag and Ipswich will only loan to L1 team

Released players?
- Lindsey had input as part of a group of staff
- Would possibly have kept Conroy. But, he's got a really good contract there

Players leaving?
- Not worried.
- Would be surprised if clubs come in for players
- If lucrative offers came in we would discuss. But nothing concrete has come in

Preseason:
- Got minutes on pitch and have worked extremely hard
- Have got it spot on with no injuries.
- Happy where we are
- Adjusted training due to heat.
- Gladwin is back 5Kg lighter than last year. Was more pedestrian last year, but he's much fitter this season. Lindsey wants him more aggressive and gliding across the pitch like he used to

Playing Style?
- We have players who can play 352 or 433
- Not going to say what we are going to play. But will train in 2 different formations
- On plan B. Would like to play possession football, with more aggression
- Want to play from the back quickly and aggressively
- If we can play one pass to the forward then fine. But defenders dont let you do that often

Captain?
- Thought about it, but yet to make the decision
- Comes down to leadership skills, experience.
- Will have a vice captain to have two leaders
- He wants good leaders on and off the pitch

Baudry
- Not spoken to him about being a coach
- Very good professional and good fun
- Dont think he'll take the coach route.

Charlie Austin:
- Nothing in the rumours about talking to him

Lyden:
- Rehabbing with the club.
- Not under contract
- Hopefully fit around October
- Will look at him then to make a decision about a future contract
- Club doing the right thing by Lyden to help him recover
- A fit Lyden: What a player!

Garner relationship?
- He took the teapot too!
- Good guy. Spoke to him at the weekend
- Wouldnt be fair to comment on how he left the club
- Annoyed the way he took Payne? Yes, of course

Loan system usage
- Lots of value in having your own players
- If player that improves us and becomes available we'll take them
- Will probably have a 3rd in by the end of the window

Lindsey as a manager on the touchline?
- Concentrate on the game
- Yes, have passion
- Will engage with the crowd
- Will beat his chest as the club means a lot to him

Promotion?
- Puts pressure on himself
- Hope to win every game
- Will aim to do the best we can and wants to win promotion
- Has to have positive outlook and aim for promotion

Forward options?
- McKirdy and Reed: We want them to stay
- Looking for another forward. (And a centre half) Midfield is balanced and sound
- Wide areas have power and pace
- There is a signing imminent. Hoped it would have been done before the interview

Squad selection?
- Look at positions. Then look at players available. Then look at data. Then watch them. Then look at their character. Then make a decision
- Not rocket science. Simple process, but it takes a long time to do due diligence
- Decision made from 'coach's eye'

Cardiff?
- Won't be a million miles from the team that plays at Harrogate
- New players coming in might not be quite ready and might just need game time

Big change for Lindsey: How has it changed his life?
- He feels he deserves a go
- Done his apprenticeship. Been an assistant
- Worked with some good and some not so good managers. Has learned from both
- Feels its his times
- There have been some personal issues and he's had a difficult couple of years
- He will give his best and provide honesty and hard work
- Hopefully his brand will bring success
- More than equipped and ready to go
- Lindsey lost his wife to cancer 3 years ago. Learned much more about himself and other people through that
- Passionate about the club. Was a youth coach before. Coming back here has really helped him. It was the first job back in football after his wife died. He had to stand down at Forest Green to look after his wife. Feels indebted to the club for giving him a route back. The club means a lot to him

Where does he live?
- Home in Kent
- Always worked away from home.
- Wont be disrupting the family
- Has done it this way for years

Set pieces?
- Want to be a threat from corners
- Something we weren't good at last year

Promotion favourites?
- Will be competitive
- Crawley spent big
- Stockport County, Bradford and Salford all have big budgets
- Will be tougher this year than last










Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Super Hans on Monday, July 18, 2022, 19:39:12
Thanks for the write up!

Sounds like McDonald and a striker sees our business done pretty much. Like the idea of leaving a couple of loan spaces free, could come in handy in Jan.

Also if we get the 2014/2015 Gladwin that would be like a new signing.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, July 18, 2022, 20:15:54
thanks nmh


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Monday, July 18, 2022, 20:40:11
Great write up, thanks for that. Like the new emphasis on less loan players.

Sent from my XQ-AD51


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Monday, July 18, 2022, 21:21:54
Summary of Lindsey interview:

- Khan can play in same position as Payne but is different
- Won't make another signing in midfield as we have good numbers and balance
- Midfield is complete

Other deals?
- Centre half and a striker
- One is very close
- Will have budget if someone comes available on last day of the window
- Made an enquiry early on about Simpson. Too high a price tag and Ipswich will only loan to L1 team

Released players?
- Lindsey had input as part of a group of staff
- Would possibly have kept Conroy. But, he's got a really good contract there

Players leaving?
- Not worried.
- Would be surprised if clubs come in for players
- If lucrative offers came in we would discuss. But nothing concrete has come in

Preseason:
- Got minutes on pitch and have worked extremely hard
- Have got it spot on with no injuries.
- Happy where we are
- Adjusted training due to heat.
- Gladwin is back 5Kg lighter than last year. Was more pedestrian last year, but he's much fitter this season. Lindsey wants him more aggressive and gliding across the pitch like he used to

Playing Style?
- We have players who can play 352 or 433
- Not going to say what we are going to play. But will train in 2 different formations
- On plan B. Would like to play possession football, with more aggression
- Want to play from the back quickly and aggressively
- If we can play one pass to the forward then fine. But defenders dont let you do that often

Captain?
- Thought about it, but yet to make the decision
- Comes down to leadership skills, experience.
- Will have a vice captain to have two leaders
- He wants good leaders on and off the pitch

Baudry
- Not spoken to him about being a coach
- Very good professional and good fun
- Dont think he'll take the coach route.

Charlie Austin:
- Nothing in the rumours about talking to him

Lyden:
- Rehabbing with the club.
- Not under contract
- Hopefully fit around October
- Will look at him then to make a decision about a future contract
- Club doing the right thing by Lyden to help him recover
- A fit Lyden: What a player!

Garner relationship?
- He took the teapot too!
- Good guy. Spoke to him at the weekend
- Wouldnt be fair to comment on how he left the club
- Annoyed the way he took Payne? Yes, of course

Loan system usage
- Lots of value in having your own players
- If player that improves us and becomes available we'll take them
- Will probably have a 3rd in by the end of the window

Lindsey as a manager on the touchline?
- Concentrate on the game
- Yes, have passion
- Will engage with the crowd
- Will beat his chest as the club means a lot to him

Promotion?
- Puts pressure on himself
- Hope to win every game
- Will aim to do the best we can and wants to win promotion
- Has to have positive outlook and aim for promotion

Forward options?
- McKirdy and Reed: We want them to stay
- Looking for another forward. (And a centre half) Midfield is balanced and sound
- Wide areas have power and pace
- There is a signing imminent. Hoped it would have been done before the interview

Squad selection?
- Look at positions. Then look at players available. Then look at data. Then watch them. Then look at their character. Then make a decision
- Not rocket science. Simple process, but it takes a long time to do due diligence
- Decision made from 'coach's eye'

Cardiff?
- Won't be a million miles from the team that plays at Harrogate
- New players coming in might not be quite ready and might just need game time

Big change for Lindsey: How has it changed his life?
- He feels he deserves a go
- Done his apprenticeship. Been an assistant
- Worked with some good and some not so good managers. Has learned from both
- Feels its his times
- There have been some personal issues and he's had a difficult couple of years
- He will give his best and provide honesty and hard work
- Hopefully his brand will bring success
- More than equipped and ready to go
- Lindsey lost his wife to cancer 3 years ago. Learned much more about himself and other people through that
- Passionate about the club. Was a youth coach before. Coming back here has really helped him. It was the first job back in football after his wife died. He had to stand down at Forest Green to look after his wife. Feels indebted to the club for giving him a route back. The club means a lot to him

Where does he live?
- Home in Kent
- Always worked away from home.
- Wont be disrupting the family
- Has done it this way for years

Set pieces?
- Want to be a threat from corners
- Something we weren't good at last year

Promotion favourites?
- Will be competitive
- Crawley spent big
- Stockport County, Bradford and Salford all have big budgets
- Will be tougher this year than last











Always deserve a lot of credit NMH for your informative posts.
I for one appreciate them. 👍


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Wormholes of Time on Tuesday, July 19, 2022, 05:08:43
Many thanks indeed for the summary. I'm just back from the Tolpuddle Martyrs festival and chasing time and news. Many thanks for taking the time to write that up - so helpful.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, July 19, 2022, 05:24:33
No problem. Often find that taking notes makes me listen.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, July 19, 2022, 05:48:18
I’m warming to Lindsey. Talks sense, seems very passionate about the job and appears to have addressed the obvious flaws in last season’s recruitment.

As with the players, though, time will tell. Nobody can say he hasn’t been backed.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, July 19, 2022, 06:06:32
No problem. Often find that taking notes makes me listen.

Same as. Thank you all the same.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, July 19, 2022, 06:34:49
I’m warming to Lindsey. Talks sense, seems very passionate about the job and appears to have addressed the obvious flaws in last season’s recruitment.

As with the players, though, time will tell. Nobody can say he hasn’t been backed.

Me too.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: @MacPhlea on Tuesday, July 19, 2022, 06:52:59
No problem. Often find that taking notes makes me listen.
I’m not sure how my wife would react if I started taking notes when she talked


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Tuesday, July 19, 2022, 07:55:59
I’m not sure how my wife would react if I started taking notes when she talked
I can guess :D


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, July 19, 2022, 08:31:21
Me too  :D

I know a guy who around 20+ years ago got home pissed from a beer festival. His wife started on him when he got through the front door, he said "write it down love, I'll read it in the morning"   :suicide: :D :D


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, July 19, 2022, 08:42:31
I’m not sure how my wife would react if I started taking notes when she talked

I do It all the time when she rambles on so that I can remember everything she's telling me to do😀


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: adje on Tuesday, July 19, 2022, 09:15:42
I do It all the time when she rambles on so that I can remember everything she's telling me to do😀
Good of you to make the effort,I say


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, July 19, 2022, 09:58:11
Good of you to make the effort,I say

😀


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Qunk on Tuesday, July 19, 2022, 09:59:41
I’m not sure how my wife would react if I started taking notes when she talked

My missus loves to send a voicenote on watsapp. I like the speed up voicenote function on watsapp. Sometimes it's difficult to tell the difference between one that's been sped up and one where she is just talking normally.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Ticker45 on Tuesday, July 19, 2022, 10:08:09
Things gelling quite well as far as I can see, some judicious signings and a manager/head coach/bloke in charge who is coming over as someone who wants us to do well with no promises. Looking forward to the Cardiff game to see where we are.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, July 30, 2022, 16:29:56
Gavin Gunning joins as a coach. Ex centre back, hope he gets straight to work!


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Saturday, July 30, 2022, 16:38:28
Player coach maybe as he's only 31 unless injuries have forced him to retire early.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, July 30, 2022, 16:48:48
he has struggled with injuries


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Saturday, July 30, 2022, 17:06:11
Cheers, I remember him from a few seasons back but haven't followed his career.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Crozzer on Saturday, July 30, 2022, 18:44:26
From Wikipedia, "Primarily a left-sided and left-footed centre-back, his wholehearted approach and eccentric personality earned him the nickname "Mad Gav Gunning".

You don't have to be mad to be a coach at Swindon Town but it may help.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Robinz on Saturday, July 30, 2022, 23:25:44
Surely this appointment should have been Paul Caddis


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Quagmire on Saturday, July 30, 2022, 23:27:42
Surely this appointment should have been Paul Caddis

An above average player renowned for turning up to pre season un fit? 


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: JBZ on Sunday, July 31, 2022, 07:47:37
Surely this appointment should have been Paul Caddis

I always enjoy Robinz's measured opinions and analysis


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Robinz on Sunday, July 31, 2022, 08:42:33
Thank you JB....
Say it as you think is the way my friend.  :)


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Ginginho on Sunday, July 31, 2022, 09:41:05
Thank you JB....
Say it as you think is the way my friend.  :)

I'm pretty certain he's taking the piss.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Batch on Sunday, July 31, 2022, 09:48:00
Quote from: Robinz
Surely this appointment should have been Paul Caddis

with respect, he's just not experiened enough in the coaching/managerial side of things.

Lindsey is vastly more experienced.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Sunday, July 31, 2022, 09:56:53
Just hope he can step up not many do.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Robinz on Sunday, July 31, 2022, 10:08:33
Really hope Scott Lindsay can make it happen, however, he will need a lot of good fortune and Saturday was simply not the start that was required.

In fact in my opinion Town were getting worse as the game went on.

Pre season results were not up to scratch and if the next half a dozen results are similar I think we will see changes.   

Just hope the results start to come. 


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Boy About Town on Sunday, July 31, 2022, 10:17:21
I thought Man City and us may have had some kind of pre season match, obviously with there kids, I had a feeling we wanted to do something following being hosts in the cup last year. Shame we can’t take some of there top talent on loan to add some class to the attacking ranks in the team.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Sunday, July 31, 2022, 10:18:12
Forget the early season favourites we also have to contend with the likes of Mickey Flynn Walsall, Steve Evans Stevenage, Richie Wellens Orient who are all good at motivating players.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Sunday, July 31, 2022, 10:20:08
Scott Lyndsey, if you’re reading this forum or if indeed anyone of the management team at STFC are reading this. We want you to succeed as much as you do, honestly we do.

I don’t have the knowledge to advise or espouse my considered vision of what you should do, who you should play or what formation. Actually I suggest Scott, pretty much everyone on this forum doesn’t either.

I’ll be chuffed to bits when you succeed. Cheers mate.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Berniman on Sunday, July 31, 2022, 11:26:31
I'm pretty certain he's taking the piss.

JBZ taking the piss..  never..


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: JBZ on Sunday, July 31, 2022, 11:36:38
JBZ taking the piss..  never..

That is slightly unfair. The point is that it is a bit much to suggest that Caddis stands out as a better option over and above the current incumbent.  The season is only one game old for flips sake.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Berniman on Sunday, July 31, 2022, 11:43:58
That is slightly unfair. The point is that it is a bit much to suggest that Caddis stands out as a better option over and above the current incumbent.  The season is only one game old for flips sake.

It's all about the delivery of your response JBZ, nothing to do with the subject. Strong sarcastic vibes in most of your responses, but you knew that already - some would say that is slightly unfair.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Sunday, July 31, 2022, 11:45:18
It's all about the delivery of your response JBZ, nothing to do with the subject. Strong sarcastic vibes in most of your responses, but you knew that already - some would say that is slightly unfair.

Barbed even.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Robinz on Monday, August 1, 2022, 03:22:03
Fucking hell...
I was suggesting Caddis to have been a coach instead of Gunning.



Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: THE FLASH on Monday, August 1, 2022, 07:58:05
I want him to succeed!

Needs a win to get the Monkey off his back.

He wont get a Honeymoon this season.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Monday, August 1, 2022, 08:00:30
I want him to succeed!

Needs a win to get the Monkey off his back.

He wont get a Honeymoon this season.

Let's hope so Flash as things would become uncomfortable for his boys who watch the home games from the Townend.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: JoeMezz on Monday, August 1, 2022, 08:39:33
I want him to succeed!

Needs a win to get the Monkey off his back.

He wont get a Honeymoon this season.

Me too. I'd love it to be proved wrong. He needs a win ASAP, next few games are tricky too on paper


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, August 1, 2022, 08:49:18
Fucking hell...
I was suggesting Caddis to have been a coach instead of Gunning.



Oh! soapy tit wank. Sorry.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, August 1, 2022, 09:03:40
We definitely need a defensive coach. The way we concede goals was pathetic last season and it was pathetic on Saturday. Hopefully 'Mad Gav' Gunning can help sort them out the back. Another body that can play as well if we have a total disaster with injuries and suspensions. 


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Power to people on Monday, August 1, 2022, 14:48:11
We definitely need a defensive coach. The way we concede goals was pathetic last season and it was pathetic on Saturday. Hopefully 'Mad Gav' Gunning can help sort them out the back. Another body that can play as well if we have a total disaster with injuries and suspensions. 

Lindsey was the defensive coach last season


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, August 1, 2022, 14:56:09
Lindsey was the defensive coach last season

Which is why we need one!


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, August 2, 2022, 11:14:51
Which is why we need one!

Agreed, just find it a bit odd the lad that has been signed, young age for a coach and no coaching experience elsewhere.
I expected someone older, more experienced, I know everyone has to start somewhere if they want to get into coaching, but to go from playing last season, to intending to play this season,  then into a defensive coaching role this season with the chance of playing (is he good enough for this level ?).

Time will tell if he manages to tighten up the defensive side of our game.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, August 2, 2022, 11:16:56
Someone like Steve Bould would have been good!


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Robinz on Tuesday, August 2, 2022, 11:50:13
Possibly SL knew him previously at FGR.
Also he would not be there to take over should SL be moved on.
Just seems a no win appointment except if he is there as an additional player if required


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, August 2, 2022, 11:50:44
Agreed, just find it a bit odd the lad that has been signed, young age for a coach and no coaching experience elsewhere.
I expected someone older, more experienced, I know everyone has to start somewhere if they want to get into coaching, but to go from playing last season, to intending to play this season,  then into a defensive coaching role this season with the chance of playing (is he good enough for this level ?).

Time will tell if he manages to tighten up the defensive side of our game.

It does seem like Lindsey has gone into his little black book with this one. They were together at FGR so clearly he trusts him. But I think you have made good points re the experience. Obviously Bamba was supposed to be that guy (again not hugely experienced as a coach) but we've had to make do with Mad Gav. He has a lot of work to do!


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, August 17, 2022, 15:31:31
We are now 4 games in as well as 1 league cup match without any victories. I've always said I would give Scott Lindsey all of August before making my mind up as to how this season is going to go. The early signs overall are not great, pre-season didn't seem to be used as much of a bonding exercise for the existing and the 13 new squad members and instead we saw him adapt a technique of playing some pre-season matches with the players fatigued. Genius or just clueless?

He said that we would play 'aggressive attacking football through the thirds' which on paper sounds great. I actually did see some evidence of this against Harrogate but there were so many misplaced passes after a decent first 25 minutes or so I think he abandoned this concept which is why we seem to look like a team so devoid of any tactical nous game after game. I haven't seen the last 3 games so can only go by comments on here really but it still sounds like SL hasn't decided on his favourite line-up, formation or even a style of play. Perhaps that's unfair given the shortish pre-season and when the new players were brought in that they haven't had chance to 'click' yet and this is going to take more time.

I'm encouraged and discouraged at the same time that our keeper is picking up man of the match awards, showing he is both competent, yet overworked. Angus seems to be still getting up to speed and with a couple of solid showings from Clayton a badly needed solid partnership at the back needs to be formed. The full backs sounds an issue, Hutton on paper sounded like a great signing but has flopped so far. Also a bit worrying that he was signed to be played in the 3-5-2 formation that Lindsey has now seemingly sacked off and he's hopeless in a back 4. Barrow fans did say he was crap defensively and it's being proved they are right. The midfield is another problem, Reed just isn't working very well and I'm worried we might never see Jonny Williams ever hit his real ability. Positive that Gladwin appears to have shown improvements and that Khan and Darcy look handy. Up front Harry has his goal that will hopefully kick start him and Wakeling has started well, a goal and an assist in his last 2 games.

Saturday is our 5th league game against the side rock bottom with their fans wanting their manager out. It's the perfect time for SL to fire up whatever side he plays and get 3 points to get the season up and running. I also read that on the touchline there are 4 voices on our bench shouting at the players? This does seem counter-intuitive and probably needs to be stopped. I get that passions are running high but the players need coherence. If we lose, I think questions really need to be asked whether SL is the right man for the role, perhaps he's always destined to be a number 2. I hope it works out but he has to put his stamp on things before the season peters out into unforgettable territory. We do have time to recruit but an already bloated squad isn't allowing a huge amount of wriggle room.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: tans on Wednesday, August 17, 2022, 21:42:42
We dont win saturday and thats it for me im afraid.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: bathford on Thursday, August 18, 2022, 00:57:31
I’m sure that Clem’s patience isn’t a bottomless pit.

By the end of next month Lindsey will be history if things don’t change.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Batch on Thursday, August 18, 2022, 01:30:42
Malpas listed until mid November. I think Lindsey will be afforded similar.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Pookemon on Thursday, August 18, 2022, 07:15:06
Malpas listed until mid November. I think Lindsey will be afforded similar.
Malpas had 5 games by end of August including 2 league wins and a narrow defeat to QPR in the cup.  If we end up with no wins in 6 then it's on a different level of shiteness.

Given that the goal is promotion and players don't get sold for a profit if they are playing crap I can't see how it can be allowed to continue for another 3 months.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Benzel on Thursday, August 18, 2022, 08:47:15
Yeah if he does last to November it best be because of a big upturn in form and not us stuttering along in midtable to bottom half.
He gets 10 games for me to show we are moving in the right direction,  he's quickly dropped the back 3 so that's a start, now over the remaining 6 league games I want to see an actual style to our play appearing and a couple of wins.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Berniman on Thursday, August 18, 2022, 10:01:16
Just bear in mind as well that this season started earlier than the Malpas season, so Nov might turn into Oct


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Pookemon on Thursday, August 18, 2022, 10:04:22
Just bear in mind as well that this season started earlier than the Malpas season, so Nov might turn into Oct

Wasn't that early really - just a few days and 1 game.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: hefty toe on Thursday, August 18, 2022, 11:01:31
Clem has stressed previously that he wants to watch a team play 'good football' with a clear identity. Clearly that isn't happening currently. Clem presumably won't be enjoying what he is seeing. I would hope that behind the scenes discussions are being had as to potential replacements for Lindsey if performance/style of play don't improve. Swindon are pretty fortunate to be on 3 points. 10 games is long enough to make a judgement on this front.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Posh Red on Thursday, August 18, 2022, 11:02:46
Wasn't that early really - just a few days and 1 game.

Season starts have been getting earlier for years now.

For example the 89/90 season started on 19th August, which would effectively be this Saturday coming



Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Thursday, August 18, 2022, 11:03:45
Clem has stressed previously that he wants to watch a team play 'good football' with a clear identity. Clearly that isn't happening currently. Clem presumably won't be enjoying what he is seeing. I would hope that behind the scenes discussions are being had as to potential replacements for Lindsey if performance/style of play don't improve. Swindon are pretty fortunate to be on 3 points. 10 games is long enough to make a judgement on this front.

It's difficult for Clem when he's already got the best man for the job!


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, August 18, 2022, 11:07:20
Season starts have been getting earlier for years now.

For example the 89/90 season started on 19th August, which would effectively be this Saturday coming
I do think we have struggled this season due to the shorter pre season, yes I know all clubs are the same in thoery but teams with lower turnover of players and having the same manager that finished the season with will be at a huge advantage early in the season.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Pookemon on Thursday, August 18, 2022, 11:23:32
Season starts have been getting earlier for years now.

For example the 89/90 season started on 19th August, which would effectively be this Saturday coming
I think playoffs and the desire to have more Saturday games have brought the timetable forward. 
Obviously this year the corrupt twats have given us a winter world cup too


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Thursday, August 18, 2022, 12:03:08
25th August 1973/74 season Swindon were at home to Sheffield Wednesday, no idea why the first game was so late.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Bedford Red on Thursday, August 18, 2022, 14:05:43
The season started on 29 August (Home to Wimbledon) in 1981, which seems strange as there was a World Cup in Spain the following summer.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, August 18, 2022, 14:19:50
18th August and our season hasn't started yet  :(


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Thursday, August 18, 2022, 15:19:11
We dont win saturday and thats it for me im afraid.

Agree.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Thursday, August 18, 2022, 15:19:36
Clem has stressed previously that he wants to watch a team play 'good football' with a clear identity. Clearly that isn't happening currently. Clem presumably won't be enjoying what he is seeing. I would hope that behind the scenes discussions are being had as to potential replacements for Lindsey if performance/style of play don't improve. Swindon are pretty fortunate to be on 3 points. 10 games is long enough to make a judgement on this front.

If SL gets the sack, maybe he can change his focus to a manager who can win.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Thursday, August 18, 2022, 15:21:14
If SL gets the sack, maybe he can change his focus to a manager who can win.

That's what I thought we were getting!


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Thursday, August 18, 2022, 15:22:09
No everything has to be about a brand these days and identity and 'trusting the process'

All a giant bag of talking shite, of course.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Thursday, August 18, 2022, 15:23:13
No everything has to be about a brand these days and identity and 'trusting the process'

All a giant bag of talking shite, of course.

Trusting the process is the thing I have a problem with😀


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: donkey on Friday, August 19, 2022, 12:12:42
Well after Saturday's game we're more than 10% through the league season...and so far it's not good enough.  But, there has been some marginal improvements each (league) game and the squad isn't fully assembled as yet.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Batch on Thursday, September 8, 2022, 15:23:57
If you search #eflDebate on twitter Gab Sutton is interviewing Lindsey. I think it will be available on Spotify, etc.

Only watched a bit, generic stuff so far so don't know where its headed.


edit: not that if affects football results analysis - but he does come across as a nice guy and had a sad time in recent personal life.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Riddick on Thursday, September 8, 2022, 15:33:16
This is the kind of crap that SL comes out with 'We had 56 box entries on Saturday, and the ball was only in play for 54 minutes. So we felt like we did enough, but it wasn't to be. But like I say, we could have gone for it sooner.' as seen on the adver today.

If he thinks the stats he is looking at from Sat means it was enough, then he is looking at the stats wrong. I have no problem with data being used, if used meaningfully.

Its these sorts of answers that are just bad as a head coach or manager. They do nothing to manage the fan base at all.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Batch on Thursday, September 8, 2022, 15:35:31
Rushian Hepburn-Murphy 2 weeks away from "full training"
------------
Stats - I bet a lot of modern coaches use them. But most fans don't give a shit.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, September 8, 2022, 15:39:19
I see Andrew Crofts has been given the interim Brighton job.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, September 8, 2022, 15:51:27
This is the kind of crap that SL comes out with 'We had 56 box entries on Saturday, and the ball was only in play for 54 minutes. So we felt like we did enough, but it wasn't to be. But like I say, we could have gone for it sooner.' as seen on the adver today.

If he thinks the stats he is looking at from Sat means it was enough, then he is looking at the stats wrong. I have no problem with data being used, if used meaningfully.

Its these sorts of answers that are just bad as a head coach or manager. They do nothing to manage the fan base at all.

Lies, damned lies and statistics - on our old friend xG, we've scored two goals too many and conceded three too few, and "should" be W2, L5, D0 for the season.

There's almost always a statistic to make whatever argument you want to make. The more obscure they are, the less you probably have a case!


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, September 8, 2022, 15:58:58
This is the kind of crap that SL comes out with 'We had 56 box entries on Saturday, and the ball was only in play for 54 minutes. So we felt like we did enough, but it wasn't to be. But like I say, we could have gone for it sooner.' as seen on the adver today.

If he thinks the stats he is looking at from Sat means it was enough, then he is looking at the stats wrong. I have no problem with data being used, if used meaningfully.

Its these sorts of answers that are just bad as a head coach or manager. They do nothing to manage the fan base at all.

I'm sure as a manager there are a plethora of statistics out there that you can use to prove/make it seem like you should have won matches. Unfortunately, anyone that has eyes could see that we had 80 minutes with a man advantage but despite dominating possession and probably shots on and off target the fact of the matter was we were too lackluster and unimaginative to break down a Gillingham side, that despite defending well, should have been put to the sword. Obviously SL isn't going to use verbiage like that and I don't really bother with pre-match manager rambles anyway as it's mostly repetitive cliché but I think he needs to try and be a bit more realistic/honest as to how games have gone and stop hiding behind statistics. The fact of the matter was that we didn't win the game, and have to improve in order to win games going forward.



  


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: theakston2k on Thursday, September 8, 2022, 16:12:09
I just hope for his own sake that he doesn’t really believe what he is saying in interviews. If he honestly thinks the number of box entries or the time the ball was in play provides any kind of defence for Saturdays result and performance then he’s pretty deluded.


Title: Re: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Benzel on Thursday, September 8, 2022, 17:24:02
I see Andrew Crofts has been given the interim Brighton job.
About the only guy left isn't he?


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Berniman on Thursday, September 8, 2022, 18:34:31
I see Andrew Crofts has been given the interim Brighton job.

He made the right choice then..


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Benzel on Thursday, September 8, 2022, 18:50:57
Would cost a bomb to get him and Luke Williams now


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: THE FLASH on Friday, September 9, 2022, 13:00:27
I'm sure as a manager there are a plethora of statistics out there that you can use to prove/make it seem like you should have won matches. Unfortunately, anyone that has eyes could see that we had 80 minutes with a man advantage but despite dominating possession and probably shots on and off target the fact of the matter was we were too lackluster and unimaginative to break down a Gillingham side, that despite defending well, should have been put to the sword. Obviously SL isn't going to use verbiage like that and I don't really bother with pre-match manager rambles anyway as it's mostly repetitive cliché but I think he needs to try and be a bit more realistic/honest as to how games have gone and stop hiding behind statistics. The fact of the matter was that we didn't win the game, and have to improve in order to win games going forward.



   

One thing i did pick up on, is that he is prepared to take responsibility in his after match talks....Cooper blamed every cunt but himself.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: mexico red on Saturday, September 24, 2022, 16:49:41
So it's been 10 games and I think now is a decent time to judge.
Aside from a couple of blips the team is improving week on week and it's clear to see a great team spirit evolving.

9 league games undefeated is not to be sniffed at. Players are looking more comfortable and a definite style is taking shape.

Well done Scott on basically gelling a team from scratch. Here's to a great season ahead


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: adje on Saturday, September 24, 2022, 16:54:44
So it's been 10 games and I think now is a decent time to judge.
Aside from a couple of blips the team is improving week on week and it's clear to see a great team spirit evolving.

9 league games undefeated is not to be sniffed at. Players are looking more comfortable and a definite style is taking shape.

Well done Scott on basically gelling a team from scratch. Here's to a great season ahead
Well said mate


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: JBZ on Saturday, September 24, 2022, 17:10:58
The proof of the pudding is in the points tally. On par I would say. Looks like the team can push on from here.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: adje on Saturday, September 24, 2022, 17:17:04
Anybody who watched those lads run their bollocks off today surely has to acknowledge that he has built a close knit squad of players,who will put themselves on the line for each other. With ability as well


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: hefty toe on Saturday, September 24, 2022, 17:28:37
Think some credit should go to Sandro re player recruitment. Quite a few of the new signings look good who can develop further. Hopefully we'll be able to extend Wakeling's contract.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Saturday, September 24, 2022, 17:38:12
Would cost a bomb to get him and Luke Williams now

Hats off to Williams who wasn't ready at the time for management, got stitched up by Power & Sherwood and has come back as a stronger person.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: DiV on Saturday, September 24, 2022, 17:59:18
Think some credit should go to Sandro re player recruitment. Quite a few of the new signings look good who can develop further. Hopefully we'll be able to extend Wakeling's contract.

Clayton needs signing to a long term contract too.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Miles Mayhem on Saturday, September 24, 2022, 18:03:25
Williams was a shit manager. Fact.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Saturday, September 24, 2022, 18:04:48
Not so shit at the moment.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: DMC on Saturday, September 24, 2022, 18:07:53
It's almost as if 3 games in was too early to judge


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Miles Mayhem on Saturday, September 24, 2022, 18:08:43
Was. He was shit. I’m forever scarred and canna change me mind.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Saturday, September 24, 2022, 18:19:16
Anybody who watched those lads run their bollocks off today surely has to acknowledge that he has built a close knit squad of players,who will put themselves on the line for each other. With ability as well

I couldn’t go, however, based on your comment that has to be what we’ve all been looking for. The fly in the ointment is doing that at home regularly and with aplomb to persuade the homies who rarely or never venture out of the SN postcode to watch the town play.

Last seasons love Clem fest save the town fest resulted in a WTF season that oh so nearly scooped the jackpot. A complete rebuild (a familiar & tired annual event under Pee Lower) and an at the time an uninspired managerial appointment against the backdrop of Garners ‘surprising’ success against the odds, with recruitment of hitherto unknown players.

Need to smack Northampton hard next week and grab three more points against a team who will be shoulder to shoulder with us at the top end of the table.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Saturday, September 24, 2022, 18:20:25
I'm not disagreeing, he was poor during his time here but now he's doing a good job a few years on.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Posh Red on Saturday, September 24, 2022, 18:32:25
A friend of mine is a Charlton fan, and he’s asked if we can take Garner back.

I’ve politely decided:D


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: singingiiiffy on Saturday, September 24, 2022, 19:03:50
He deserves a lot of credit and has seemingly turned things round from a limp start.

There were red flags with the appointment process, the players lost and the 3 at the back formation in every game of preseason and the first games where it just looked awful. Garner cost us autos with his refusal to adapt at home and changed it just in time to scrape playoffs. Lindsey appeared as stubborn but did change and with the lack of preseason with 4 at the back we seemingly did need those games to get into gear.

We hopefully now have.

Patience is so hard in football. Even more so in an awful league and expectation


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: DMC on Saturday, September 24, 2022, 19:07:41
A friend of mine is a Charlton fan, and he’s asked if we can take Garner back.

I’ve politely decided:D
Interesting to see that Garner the other day was on record as saying it has been hugely frustrating that in the last 3 jobs he has had he has not had a penny to spend. Could have spent a bit this summer if he had stayed


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: DiV on Saturday, September 24, 2022, 19:09:51
Interesting to see that Garner the other day was on record as saying it has been hugely frustrating that in the last 3 jobs he has had he has not had a penny to spend. Could have spent a bit this summer if he had stayed

Would he have been allowed to spend it? …or would the club have spent it for him?

I guess it comes back to the age old question of who has what say in our recruitment


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Saturday, September 24, 2022, 19:12:10
Post match

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GOiP6VIBjUM&t=275s

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=m2wdw0OJ2kA


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: DMC on Saturday, September 24, 2022, 19:12:59
From what i have been told and don't shoot the messenger is that SL has a say but does get presented with a pool of players selected for him, if the club offered him 4 rbs though and he did not want one then they wouldn't sign them. Shade and Harries were both Garner signings  


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: DiV on Saturday, September 24, 2022, 19:17:40
From what i have been told and don't shoot the messenger is that SL has a say but does get presented with a pool of players selected for him, if the club offered him 4 rbs though and he did not want one then they wouldn't sign them. Shade and Harries were both Garner signings   

Interesting that seen as Harries has probably been the weakest signing so far (admittedly that opinion is based on not a lot of football played)

Shade will probably do ok once he’s got a settled position within the team


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: DMC on Saturday, September 24, 2022, 19:35:22
Post match

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GOiP6VIBjUM&t=275s

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=m2wdw0OJ2kA
Cheers Jimmy


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Saturday, September 24, 2022, 19:36:28
👍👍


Title: Re: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Benzel on Saturday, September 24, 2022, 20:43:18
It's almost as if 3 games in was too early to judge
I wonder if people are starting to trust the data...


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: DiV on Saturday, September 24, 2022, 20:47:11
I wonder if people are starting to trust the data...

I’ve gone completely knee jerk the other way.

I’m worried about the length of the contracts. We need to get these boys signed up for longer…


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Saturday, September 24, 2022, 20:52:26
I wonder why wakeling wasn't offered a two year contract


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: DMC on Saturday, September 24, 2022, 20:57:40
He will have a new contract soon. Never worth a 2-year deal based on what we knew


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: DiV on Saturday, September 24, 2022, 20:58:42
He will have a new contract soon. Never worth a 2-year deal based on what we knew

At least 3 years please…


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Pookemon on Saturday, September 24, 2022, 20:59:55
From what i have been told and don't shoot the messenger is that SL has a say but does get presented with a pool of players selected for him, if the club offered him 4 rbs though and he did not want one then they wouldn't sign them. Shade and Harries were both Garner signings  
They would say that though to be fair.  Not me guv, the last guy was shite


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Saturday, September 24, 2022, 21:03:30
I wonder why wakeling wasn't offered a two year contract

Evidently Grimsby were chasing him and pulled out as they thought he was not strong enough.
Need to extend his terms.

Loved it today as Grimsby were starting to turn the screw against our 10.
Wakeling broke away on his own his shot turned over for a corner.
He gave the clenched fist to the Swindon fans who responded.

Looked really effective in a 3. That was such a positive takeaway today.
The Haddock and Chips mind the best bar none 😂


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: DMC on Saturday, September 24, 2022, 21:04:09
Can't see why they would lie tbh. Makes sense too, Shade knew he was coming here before the end of the season and Harries was signed by Garner at Rovers


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, September 26, 2022, 09:01:52
So it's been 10 games and I think now is a decent time to judge.
Aside from a couple of blips the team is improving week on week and it's clear to see a great team spirit evolving.

9 league games undefeated is not to be sniffed at. Players are looking more comfortable and a definite style is taking shape.

Well done Scott on basically gelling a team from scratch. Here's to a great season ahead

I'm very much in the same boat/camp as you Mex. I won't pretend that the first few games this season weren't a particularly good watch but with every match there were signs of us moving in the right direction and at Donny (yes they were pants but I think we got it spot on that day) I thought we put together a really cohesive and solid 90 minutes. We've built on that with a very good win at Grimsby and really only look like going one way up the league. The squad and manager now look hungry to get out of this division, fair play to them.

October is a great barometer of where we can get to this season. We have (on paper) tough matches against Northampton, Bradford and Mansfield, an i've no idea what to expect really at Stevenage and what you might call gimmes at home to Newport, Colchester and Hartlepool.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, September 26, 2022, 10:10:24
Got to say Gillingham tested my 'wait a bit longer before judging' resolve.

3 wins in a row, 1 league loss. brilliant (though Sutton wasn't as convincing as other 2).

big test coming up from Northampton. obviously. But it is just one game and we have more to come I'm sure. We'll have to see if legs can cope with 2 games in a week (Gladders). is Williams back, he should be fresh


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, September 26, 2022, 10:27:10
Got to say Gillingham tested my 'wait a bit longer before judging' resolve.
It did me until the Monday after I watched the extended highlights and we actually created far more chances that it seemed while watching it, we came up against a keeper playing the best game of his life and hit the post etc....

If even 1 of those chances had gone in then it would entirely have changed how bad it felt at the time.

We had 23 shots that day and 4 were on target, we hit the post, the Williams miss from 6 yards, the FBT header saved so well by the keeper, the 2 excellent saves by the keeper from Shades long rage efforts, the flick by Jephcott from 3 yards that could have gone anywhere but went over the bar.

It was just at the time it seemed like we created very little but that blatantly wasn't the case looking back at it.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Monday, September 26, 2022, 11:16:20
From what i have been told and don't shoot the messenger is that SL has a say but does get presented with a pool of players selected for him, if the club offered him 4 rbs though and he did not want one then they wouldn't sign them. Shade and Harries were both Garner signings   
That's not really 'news'. Both he and Sandro said that at the beginning of the season.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: swindonmaniac on Monday, September 26, 2022, 11:39:33
It's almost as if 3 games in was too early to judge
just put a tenner each way on us,  still 33/1 at Skybet and 365, down to 20/1 with paddy power, someone know something we don’t ?.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: DMC on Monday, September 26, 2022, 13:54:34
That's not really 'news'. Both he and Sandro said that at the beginning of the season.
Yeah probably did i was just replying to someone.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: @MacPhlea on Monday, September 26, 2022, 14:10:12
I wonder if people are starting to trust the data...
I doubt it, half the people on here still believe in witchcraft and are waiting in the shadows with pitchforks and ducking stools


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: fuzzy on Monday, September 26, 2022, 14:17:50
I doubt it, half the people on here still believe in witchcraft and are waiting in the shadows waiting with pitchforks and ducking stools

So, it's wing of bat and eye of newt pies from the caterers then?


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Monday, September 26, 2022, 16:13:25
It did me until the Monday after I watched the extended highlights and we actually created far more chances that it seemed while watching it, we came up against a keeper playing the best game of his life and hit the post etc....

If even 1 of those chances had gone in then it would entirely have changed how bad it felt at the time.

We had 23 shots that day and 4 were on target, we hit the post, the Williams miss from 6 yards, the FBT header saved so well by the keeper, the 2 excellent saves by the keeper from Shades long rage efforts, the flick by Jephcott from 3 yards that could have gone anywhere but went over the bar.

It was just at the time it seemed like we created very little but that blatantly wasn't the case looking back at it.

‘It was just at the time it seemed like we created very little but that blatantly wasn't the case looking back at it.’

The darkest hour is always the one before the dawn.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, October 4, 2022, 08:05:17
Up for MOM award.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: swindonmaniac on Tuesday, October 4, 2022, 12:02:44
Up for MOM award.
Thats fucked it then  :D :D


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, October 4, 2022, 12:05:30
Thats fucked it then  :D :D

He's not won it...yet.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, October 6, 2022, 12:40:07
He's not won it...yet.

Ritchie Wellens will win that


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: @MacPhlea on Thursday, October 6, 2022, 14:47:38
Ritchie Wellens will win that
Great news… 🤣


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, October 6, 2022, 14:50:03
Or Tubby?


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Thursday, October 6, 2022, 16:46:25
I prefer fatty😀


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: kaufman on Thursday, October 20, 2022, 17:57:02
Carl Laraman at the club.
Mentioned in press conference
https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/23066310.swindon-town-bring-ex-arsenal-charlton-athletic-coach-carl-laraman-aid/


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: tans on Thursday, October 20, 2022, 17:58:37
Never heard of him

A quick google suggests he was lastly Director of Football at Chatham Town


Title: Re: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Benzel on Thursday, October 20, 2022, 20:05:59
Never heard of him

A quick google suggests he was lastly Director of Football at Chatham Town
Was also a youth development coach and U23s coach at Arsenal


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: tans on Thursday, October 20, 2022, 20:15:52
Then got suspended for allegations of bullying


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Thursday, October 20, 2022, 20:56:03
Then got suspended for allegations of bullying

Proven or just allegations?


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: tans on Thursday, October 20, 2022, 21:27:44
No idea


Title: Re: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Benzel on Friday, October 21, 2022, 08:14:25
Proven or just allegations?
Nothing came of it, not that that makes it untrue.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Batch on Friday, October 21, 2022, 08:36:15
how many coaches have we got now? I've lost track


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Nemo on Friday, October 21, 2022, 08:44:01
how many coaches have we got now? I've lost track

Lindsay (Manager), Day (Assistant), Gunning (Coach), Mildenhall (GK Coach), Laraman (Helping) is the first team coaching staff I think.

I'm not going to get remotely exercised over who is and isn't collecting cones, but it does feel a little like Lindsay prefers people like himself who have been around the lower leagues and have an er... more "motivational" rather than tactical approach. May be totally wrong on that, but it doesn't feel like a coaching staff bringing a range of skills to the table so much as a group of similar people.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: DMC on Friday, October 21, 2022, 09:35:23
Lindsay (Manager), Day (Assistant), Gunning (Coach), Mildenhall (GK Coach), Laraman (Helping) is the first team coaching staff I think.

I'm not going to get remotely exercised over who is and isn't collecting cones, but it does feel a little like Lindsay prefers people like himself who have been around the lower leagues and have an er... more "motivational" rather than tactical approach. May be totally wrong on that, but it doesn't feel like a coaching staff bringing a range of skills to the table so much as a group of similar people.
I urge you to go and sit at one of the evenings and listen to him talk. You couldn't be furteher from the truth,he explained in great detail last time each of their roles and it is a lot more than motivational


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Nemo on Friday, October 21, 2022, 09:39:39
I urge you to go and sit at one of the evenings and listen to him talk. You couldn't be furteher from the truth,he explained in great detail last time each of their roles and it is a lot more than motivational

Sounds positive. On matchdays it does seem a lot more shouting than in-game tactical changes at the moment, but maybe those will come with time and maturity of the side.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: DMC on Friday, October 21, 2022, 09:48:54
Sounds positive. On matchdays it does seem a lot more shouting than in-game tactical changes at the moment, but maybe those will come with time and maturity of the side.
I was exactly the same so asked them and he explained it this way.

He stands out front instructing as he see the game
Gunning will come out and instruct when defensive shape is off or player isn't tracking back
Mildenhall is in charge of set pieces
Day i found most interesting, he won't do anything for the first 5-10 mins as he is in charge of watching opposition team shape and will come out and let lindsay know of any shape changes

I thought the exact same thing as you originally but when he explained i watched the next game in the dug out and it went exactly like that


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: cdakev on Friday, October 21, 2022, 12:58:31
how many coaches have we got now? I've lost track
Nearly as many as Barnes 


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Boeta on Friday, October 21, 2022, 13:52:24
It has been noticeable how Day, Gunning, Mildenhall are all more reserved now, picking and choosing their moments with Lindsay leading out in front.

There was a home game earlier in the season where they were all out barking their heads off and it was ineffective/embarrassing.

Looks like they are settling into their roles now.

However, tactically we still haven't worked out how to un-isolate the striker. Too many games when Wakeling previously and now Jephcott are fighting for scraps as they have no-one to consistently link up with. I had hoped that Wakeling going out wide might get that balance better but it hasn't at all.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Batch on Friday, October 21, 2022, 17:24:56
wakeling often plays deep in his wide
wide role.

it's helping the midfield, but not jephcott it wakeling himself


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: singingiiiffy on Friday, October 21, 2022, 17:45:50
shall i be the first to say it out loud. wakeling pre contract > post contract. did we unnecessarily jump in to quickly? time will tell i suppose


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: DMC on Friday, October 21, 2022, 17:50:48
shall i be the first to say it out loud. wakeling pre contract > post contract. did we unnecessarily jump in to quickly? time will tell i suppose
I think sometimes we need to take a step back and see it for what it is. He is a young lad in his first pro season as a footballer. For context he has only played 100 minutes more football than Harry Parsons. It was definitely worth the deal imo and he will prove worthwhile in the long run i am sure


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Steak supper on Friday, October 21, 2022, 18:00:58

There was a home game earlier in the season where they were all out barking their heads off and it was ineffective/embarrassing.


there was also the big geezer who didn't look like they belonged in the professional sport


Title: Re: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Friday, October 21, 2022, 18:09:37
Nothing came of it, not that that makes it untrue.

Or true.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: DiV on Saturday, October 22, 2022, 11:12:20
shall i be the first to say it out loud. wakeling pre contract > post contract. did we unnecessarily jump in to quickly? time will tell i suppose

Wakeling playing central with McKirdy one side and Williams the other side > Wakeling playing out wide to accommodate Jephcott in the middle


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, October 22, 2022, 13:07:09
[quote="DiV] Wakeling playing central with McKirdy one side and Williams the other side > Wakeling playing out wide to accommodate Jephcott in the middle [/quote]

quite right


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Saturday, October 22, 2022, 16:20:59
When 442 becomes in vogue again maybe Jephcott and Wakeling might hit it off


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Boeta on Thursday, November 3, 2022, 15:46:18
https://twitter.com/GabSutton/status/1588174404164673536?s=20&t=B1XWXQhAiYBgEDTPCPfgkg

Interview with SL today. Some interesting bits on coaching Hutton from c. 11 minutes.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, November 3, 2022, 15:56:46
When 442 becomes in vogue again maybe Jephcott and Wakeling might hit it off

Mystic Jimmy


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Thursday, November 3, 2022, 16:23:15
Mystic Jimmy

 :D :D


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Thursday, November 3, 2022, 21:28:39
https://twitter.com/GabSutton/status/1588174404164673536?s=20&t=B1XWXQhAiYBgEDTPCPfgkg

Interview with SL today. Some interesting bits on coaching Hutton from c. 11 minutes.


Credit to that young interviewer, was very good.


Title: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: RedRag on Friday, November 4, 2022, 08:30:13
https://twitter.com/GabSutton/status/1588174404164673536?s=20&t=B1XWXQhAiYBgEDTPCPfgkg

Interview with SL today. Some interesting bits on coaching Hutton from c. 11 minutes.

So far as Hutton is concerned, I had admired his crossing but also found them unproductive.  They were too loopy to threaten from for the likes of Wakeling or even Jephcott, who were invariably outnumbered anyway.  SL noted, I think, that he wanted harder, even lower crosses and delivered not at the first opportunity but further down the pitch and when we'd got more than one attacker against "three oak trees".  

The whole 17 min. interview was interesting, so thanks for posting.


Title: Re: Re: Scott Lindsey- New Manager thread
Post by: Benzel on Friday, November 4, 2022, 14:30:22
Credit to that young interviewer, was very good.
Yeah Gab is well worth a follow if you're on twitter.