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Title: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, January 31, 2017, 08:36:45
STFC: Fan's phone-in this FRIDAY at 6pm on BBC Wiltshire with @Official_STFC Chairman Lee Power https://t.co/IwTScFYbnt


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: herthab on Tuesday, January 31, 2017, 08:39:25
That, to me, suggests signings today. Unless of course Power is so out of touch he doesn't realise the growing frustrations within the fan base.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Super Hans on Tuesday, January 31, 2017, 08:41:15
Signings incoming then. Or he's completely lost his shit.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, January 31, 2017, 08:41:42
I saw that and the first thing that came to mind for me was signings also.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, January 31, 2017, 08:45:37
Exactly what I said on the fb group. Singings incoming..

Bet they're good, power will love bring able to tell fans to stfu. To be fair, if they are good then rightly so to an extent.
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The fb group isn't so bad if you ignore and don't debate the 'power is Satan' type posts..


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: corner on Tuesday, January 31, 2017, 08:48:47
Also to add to the signings incoming bit, luke williams has been to the gym pretty much every morning since Christmas, this morning however he has not.........

Yes I am clutching at straws...........


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, January 31, 2017, 08:52:54
He's going to be in such a strop. :)

"I'm hurting too, Shaun."
"It's not been good enough, Shaun."
"We play Irish football, Shaun"
"You'll have to ask....., Shaun"
"He's a muggy little cant, Shaun."

The last one was under his breath.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, January 31, 2017, 08:59:59
Wonder how upset he's going to be when Sherwood gets criticised

#50ShadesOfRed


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: ronnie21 on Tuesday, January 31, 2017, 09:19:48
He's going to be in such a strop. :)

"I'm hurting too, Shaun."
"It's not been good enough, Shaun."
"We play Irish football, Shaun"
"You'll have to ask....., Shaun"
"He's a muggy little cant, Shaun."

The last one was under his breath.
If it is Hodgetts doing the phone-in then it will be nothing more than a Friday evening love-in!!  Get Steve White to host it - he does not appear to be frightened to speak his mind.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, January 31, 2017, 09:20:56
Wonder how upset he's going to be when Sherwood gets criticised

#50ShadesOfRed
I am guessing very. #theinvisibleman


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: herthab on Tuesday, January 31, 2017, 09:39:45
I'm willing to bet that if signings are made today then Power will attribute it to Timmy. Hope someone manages to ask some decent questions this time, unfortunately I'll be travelling back from Southampton when it's broadcast.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Tuesday, January 31, 2017, 09:46:37
Write your questions here and io will copy them onto a email if you want


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, January 31, 2017, 09:56:07
Really looking forward to somebody asking where the dickie dosh has gone. That's a question that really needs asking, I'm surprised nobody's asked it yet.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: suttonred on Tuesday, January 31, 2017, 10:11:24
"What do you feel about being judged every single minute, of every single day, by ill informed people on the Internet"?


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: A Gent Orange on Tuesday, January 31, 2017, 10:48:46
Really looking forward to somebody asking where the dickie dosh has gone. That's a question that really needs asking, I'm surprised nobody's asked it yet.

It would be asked by BBC Wilts stop people phoning in.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: ronnie21 on Tuesday, January 31, 2017, 10:51:39
Write your questions here and io will copy them onto a email if you want
All season we have had no pace, no direction and a lot of times we have had no desire.  Where has it all gone wrong Lee?


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, January 31, 2017, 11:17:11
"What do you feel about being judged every single minute, of every single day, by ill informed people on the Internet"?
In the absence of any information, people are inclined to fill in the gaps with all sort of shit.

Can't really blame them.

And, imo, any signings today doesn't wipe out the pathetic recruitment policy in the last 2/3 windows.

He needs taking to task vigorously. I'll try my best.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: herthab on Tuesday, January 31, 2017, 11:33:11
Write your questions here and io will copy them onto a email if you want

Cheers.

1. Does Power admit that his model is flawed? I.e., does he accept that there is a need for an experienced spine, which would make us more competitive and actually help bring on the younger players.
2. What does Sherwood actually do? If he does, as was said at his unveiling, have responsibility for tactics, signings, team selection, etc, what does Williams do?
3. Sherwood said at his press conference that if things were going wrong on the pitch he'd be on the touch line. Things have been 'going wrong' for most of his time here and he's been on the touch line once. Why is this?
4. If the answer to question 2 confirms that Sherwood is in total control of the playing side, why doesn't he front up to the media post match? If Williams is now a bit part player, why is he wheeled out after every abject performance to basically say it isn't his fault?
5. It's gone very quiet on the training ground, can he provide an update?
6. Is he willing to admit that there is currently a growing disconnect between the club and supporters and has he any plans to improve this situation?




Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Posh Red on Tuesday, January 31, 2017, 11:36:47
And, imo, any signings today doesn't wipe out the pathetic recruitment policy in the last 2/3 windows.

How do you think it compares with Di Canio?

People will point to the good players he signed, but his hit rate of decent players can't have been much better.

I guess when you have a budget that's 2 or 3 times the rest of the division (which we did in league 2) it's easier to do because you can just buy & discard players.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, January 31, 2017, 11:41:18
Success on the pitch covers up poor recruitment. Di Canio bought players for too much, paid them too much and they had very little sell-on value.

Power has done the complete opposite. All we really want is a happy medium.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, January 31, 2017, 11:42:55
How do you think it compares with Di Canio?

People will point to the good players he signed, but his hit rate of decent players can't have been much better.

I guess when you have a budget that's 2 or 3 times the rest of the division (which we did in league 2) it's easier to do because you can just buy & discard players.


I assumed he meant the approach (last minute desperation, total youth policy, hopefully get bailed out later when it doesn't work) .

There are always going to be hits and misses at clubs at every level.

edit: too slow


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, January 31, 2017, 11:47:31
Success on the pitch covers up poor recruitment. Di Canio bought players for too much, paid them too much and they had very little sell-on value.

Power has done the complete opposite. All we really want is a happy medium.
Here you go then:

(http://images.gr-assets.com/books/1240359581l/1903387.jpg)


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, January 31, 2017, 11:51:57
He-he!


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: JoeMezz on Tuesday, January 31, 2017, 12:18:25
Finding out about "one of the best appointments - Sherwood" has to be top of the priority.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, January 31, 2017, 14:22:10
Cheers.

1. Does Power admit that his model is flawed? I.e., does he accept that there is a need for an experienced spine, which would make us more competitive and actually help bring on the younger players.
2. What does Sherwood actually do? If he does, as was said at his unveiling, have responsibility for tactics, signings, team selection, etc, what does Williams do?
3. Sherwood said at his press conference that if things were going wrong on the pitch he'd be on the touch line. Things have been 'going wrong' for most of his time here and he's been on the touch line once. Why is this?
4. If the answer to question 2 confirms that Sherwood is in total control of the playing side, why doesn't he front up to the media post match? If Williams is now a bit part player, why is he wheeled out after every abject performance to basically say it isn't his fault?
5. It's gone very quiet on the training ground, can he provide an update?
6. Is he willing to admit that there is currently a growing disconnect between the club and supporters and has he any plans to improve this situation?
Some very good points.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, February 1, 2017, 20:16:35
Write your questions here and io will copy them onto a email if you want

Cheers, going to be at work/traveling back. Probably already on the list. You can use my real name or I can email them in myself.

1. Given Tim Sherwood is in overall control on all aspects of the football side, why isn't he fronting up to the press/fans and influencing things from the sidelines. With the greatest respect to Luke Williams, he's just a coach, I don't care what he thinks anymore. Does Tim have a contractual reason not to do it himself (e.g. a compromise agreement clause with Villa)

2. Our summer recruitment for the last two seasons has been poor. We've left it last minute and invested on what in my opinion are unproven punts. This view has been backed up by January panics where we've had to rely on signing previous players on loan to try and bail us out.

While the pursuit of break even is both commendable and indeed necessary, isn't it time to tweak the formula slightly for next year. The team is crying out for more established experienced heads, and we won't always be lucky with former players availability, QPR, Brighton and Chelsea will move them on.

2b. Moreover sizeable number of fans are on the verge of giving up on regular support of the Town under this model, they can't see it ever improving and feel alienated from the club.

It would be foolish to dismiss this as the "outspoken few", I'm talking about people I've been going to football with for many many years and I hear it replicated in many quarters.

How are you going to address a) the transfer policy issue and b) the complete PR disaster that has resulted from the complete lack of communication and engagement from yourself and the DoF? Please convince them next year will be different.

3. What happened with being "stuck" with 7 loan players? Did a loan->perm deals not come off? Which parent clubs will allow them to be "rested" and which parent clubs will insist they play/charge us more for not playing them?

4. Were we remunerated in any way to terminate Murray's contract?

5. Do you feel time taken addressing Waterford's needs has been detrimental to Swindon Town?

6. Explain the thinking behind the Feruz loan and the Starkey buy. Feruz looks somewhat limited and no better that what we have - was he a condition of taking the other two? Starkey could be brilliant, but we have so many midfield options at the club it is hard to make sense of the signing. Is he one for the future?

Congratulations on getting Ince and Ajose, they could be the difference between relegation and survival.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: woolster on Wednesday, February 1, 2017, 20:34:57

Congratulations on getting Ince and Ajose, they could be the difference between relegation and survival.
cock sucker :)


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, February 1, 2017, 20:35:48
cock sucker :)

Want to get in on Sunday.

Also £5 a go...;)


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: woolster on Wednesday, February 1, 2017, 20:37:23
Want to get in on Sunday.

Also £5 a go...;)
:D


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, February 1, 2017, 20:37:52
POWER LOVER!!!!


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, February 1, 2017, 20:39:19
POWER LOVER!!!!

The Mrs promised she wouldn't tell....

Ooooh, I see.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Wednesday, February 1, 2017, 21:07:14
1) Why do we only appear to sign players who are unable to deal with the physical side of the game - Ince excepted.
2) Given the above and the the continued ineffectiveness of our midfield this season, why has Tom Smith not been given more of a go.
3) What message does this send to Smith, Young etc or any of our other youngsters who could do no worse than a lot of the existing players. When they play, they play ok. More experienced heads let them down so we bring in youngsters from other clubs on loan and they fall down the pecking order. Does that make sound commercial sense?
4) Why do people at the club continually talk about attacking football when it is the most boring, turgid in memory with very few opportunties to score
5) Why is there a clear lack of leadership both on and off the pitch. When things go wrong on the pitch, there is nobody to turn to.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, February 1, 2017, 21:12:49
I'm glad you asked 3. Guess its subjective and so they aren't considered good enough (though I disagree)


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, February 1, 2017, 21:17:56
Are you serious about progressing the club or are you just using STFC as a showcase for young players you think you can make a profit from?


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, February 1, 2017, 21:33:08
Missed this, Sherwood sort of speaks. ST renewals must be out next week :)

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/15063715.We_ve_tried_to_correct_recruitment_mistakes__admits_Town_director_of_football_Sherwood/?ref=mr&lp=3


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: BruceChatwin on Wednesday, February 1, 2017, 22:51:45
Missed this, Sherwood sort of speaks. ST renewals must be out next week :)

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/15063715.We_ve_tried_to_correct_recruitment_mistakes__admits_Town_director_of_football_Sherwood/?ref=mr&lp=3

https://twitter.com/FootballManager/status/826771474929299457 (https://twitter.com/FootballManager/status/826771474929299457)

Some of the replies here were mildly amusing.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: sonicyouth on Wednesday, February 1, 2017, 22:57:57
https://twitter.com/FootballManager/status/826771474929299457 (https://twitter.com/FootballManager/status/826771474929299457)

Some of the replies here were mildly amusing.
Superb


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Panda Paws on Thursday, February 2, 2017, 12:00:57
1) Why do we only appear to sign players who are unable to deal with the physical side of the game - Ince excepted.
2) Given the above and the the continued ineffectiveness of our midfield this season, why has Tom Smith not been given more of a go.
3) What message does this send to Smith, Young etc or any of our other youngsters who could do no worse than a lot of the existing players. When they play, they play ok. More experienced heads let them down so we bring in youngsters from other clubs on loan and they fall down the pecking order. Does that make sound commercial sense?
4) Why do people at the club continually talk about attacking football when it is the most boring, turgid in memory with very few opportunties to score
5) Why is there a clear lack of leadership both on and off the pitch. When things go wrong on the pitch, there is nobody to turn to.


All fair bar number 1. Norris, Jones, Thomas, Ince, Gladwin, JSW, Furlong, Dabo? - all signings this season off the top of my head that "can deal with physical side of the game".

This idea we only sign small, non-physical players is a myth. Plot your best XI and tell me how many can't cope physically.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, February 2, 2017, 12:07:59
A midfield 3 of Gladwin, Colkett, Goddard - which we have fielded recently - are not going to put a tackle in. Niggly trips and fouls, yes.

Hopefully, Ince will help rectify this, but it can't all be down to one player. The emphasis on passing at every opportunity seems to have morphed into a 'don't bother tackling, lads' philosophy.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Thursday, February 2, 2017, 12:13:10
All fair bar number 1. Norris, Jones, Thomas, Ince, Gladwin, JSW, Furlong, Dabo? - all signings this season off the top of my head that "can deal with physical side of the game".

This idea we only sign small, non-physical players is a myth. Plot your best XI and tell me how many can't cope physically.
Connor Thomas?? Physical?? Fuck me, I've heard it all now. Must be 6'2 & I've hardly seen him put a tackle in all season.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Trashbat? on Thursday, February 2, 2017, 12:18:00
My question to him would be..

We hear a lot about how Mr Power has been a footballer and a businessman...but has he ever been a fan? What as a fan makes him excited to follow a football club?




Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Thursday, February 2, 2017, 12:59:01
All fair bar number 1. Norris, Jones, Thomas, Ince, Gladwin, JSW, Furlong, Dabo? - all signings this season off the top of my head that "can deal with physical side of the game".

This idea we only sign small, non-physical players is a myth. Plot your best XI and tell me how many can't cope physically.
I haven't got a clue what our best XI is at the moment. Out of your list though I recognised Ince as probably being able to deal with it, the others I would say not.
although Norris has played 30 odd games, I can't remember him putting in a decent tackle or intimidating his defender.
Jones is lightweight for a centre half. 
Thomas - lets not go there. You might want to retract that one.
Gladwin - good on the ball,  crap off it.
JSW - see Jones.
Furlong - see Jones and JSW
Dabo - possibly
Lets agree to disagree and maybe we have a different definition of physical. I regard it as being able to dish out a little bit and take it - most of our lot can't, hence I feel the need to sign some players that can to allow our "footballers" to play - protection if you like.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Panda Paws on Thursday, February 2, 2017, 13:04:18
Lots of responses that we don't tackle enough. That's not what being able to cope physically means in my book, but appreciate I see things differently to most.

On the occasions I've seen Thomas, mostly at CB weirdly, he has seemed fine physically. And the only difference I see between Jones and Branco physically is Branco dives in more, because he needs to, because he's not as good. Jones is, I'd guess, quicker, stronger and an equal in the air.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, February 2, 2017, 13:26:28
Lots of responses that we don't tackle enough. That's not what being able to cope physically means in my book, but appreciate I see things differently to most.

On the occasions I've seen Thomas, mostly at CB weirdly, he has seemed fine physically. And the only difference I see between Jones and Branco physically is Branco dives in more, because he needs to, because he's not as good. Jones is, I'd guess, quicker, stronger and an equal in the air.

Tackling has largely disappeared from the game, as players dive on physical contact and fouls lead to cards etc.  So your physicality has to be demonstrated by getting in and around an opponent to be able to nick the ball....what in this day and age is called pressing. It requires high levels of fitness and strength, and of course sometimes it will go wrong and you foul.

It is this which our players lack. 

Thinking about games v Oxford I recall 92/93 season, which many rate as one of our finer seasons, we actually had a good number of crap performances, which is why gates were not much higher than now for many matches.  We got stuffed by Leicester and Derby 4-2 back to back..... fans felt that a midfield of Hazard, Moncur and Ling was a bit lightweight. Hoddle's reaction was to bring in Andy Gray on loan from Palace...he made his debut at the Manor, we won 1-0. Gray had that extra physicality that he could press the ball and then when winning it drive the team forward, it was quite a revelation.  Hodle didn't keep him for long, but Lingy sort of ended up doing the job....namely drive the team forward by running froim midfield.  It's something that Luongo used to do for us, but no-one since. Ben Gladwin can sort of do it, but he often looks a bit confused as to what he's meant to be doing....which is a coaching weakness, + the way his career has moved.

This is physicality, an ability to impose yourself on the opposition.... you don't need to be a gorilla but sometimes it helps.

It always amuses me when meeting players off the pitch, how puny they often are....unlike rugby players, who are often freaks.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Panda Paws on Thursday, February 2, 2017, 13:40:59
Tackling has largely disappeared from the game, as players dive on physical contact and fouls lead to cards etc.  So your physicality has to be demonstrated by getting in and around an opponent to be able to nick the ball....what in this day and age is called pressing. It requires high levels of fitness and strength, and of course sometimes it will go wrong and you foul.

It is this which our players lack. 

Thinking about games v Oxford I recall 92/93 season, which many rate as one of our finer seasons, we actually had a good number of crap performances, which is why gates were not much higher than now for many matches.  We got stuffed by Leicester and Derby 4-2 back to back..... fans felt that a midfield of Hazard, Moncur and Ling was a bit lightweight. Hoddle's reaction was to bring in Andy Gray on loan from Palace...he made his debut at the Manor, we won 1-0. Gray had that extra physicality that he could press the ball and then when winning it drive the team forward, it was quite a revelation.  Hodle didn't keep him for long, but Lingy sort of ended up doing the job....namely drive the team forward by running froim midfield.  It's something that Luongo used to do for us, but no-one since. Ben Gladwin can sort of do it, but he often looks a bit confused as to what he's meant to be doing....which is a coaching weakness, + the way his career has moved.

This is physicality, an ability to impose yourself on the opposition.... you don't need to be a gorilla but sometimes it helps.

It always amuses me when meeting players off the pitch, how puny they often are....unlike rugby players, who are often freaks.

Agree with a lot of this, hence why I think Ince could be an excellent signing in there alongside Colkett.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, February 2, 2017, 13:46:56
What are the plans for the managerial situation, Tim Sherwood is not a long term appointment and Luke Williams has shown he is not up to doing the top job, can you confirm you will not promote Ross Embelton to the manager chair and that there will be a proper manager in place for next season who can also recruit his own staff and players.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: RobertT on Thursday, February 2, 2017, 13:58:58
So you expect him to open himself up to a constructive dismissal claim live on the radio, good luck with that.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Batch on Thursday, February 2, 2017, 14:30:53
Connor Thomas?? Physical?? Fuck me, I've heard it all now. Must be 6'2 & I've hardly seen him put a tackle in all season.

Indeed.

Gladwin would be in my starting 11. But tackling, physical strength holding people off the ball and tracking back aren't his strong points.  Same with Goddard and CC.

That's the problem as I saw it. Ince is the attempted solution - he's going to be great and then go down isn't he..


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: pauld on Thursday, February 2, 2017, 15:22:23
Why is it that we never hear from our "in charge of everything to do with the team" Director of Football in post-match interviews etc but he's apparently quite happy to talk to some Football Manager marketing Q&A about what he's doing or not doing with our team? Does he understand how disrespectful that looks?


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, February 2, 2017, 15:31:24
Why is it that we never hear from our "in charge of everything to do with the team" Director of Football in post-match interviews etc but he's apparently quite happy to talk to some Football Manager marketing Q&A about what he's doing or not doing with our team? Does he understand how disrespectful that looks?
This.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, February 2, 2017, 16:18:48
Why is it that we never hear from our "in charge of everything to do with the team" Director of Football in post-match interviews etc but he's apparently quite happy to talk to some Football Manager marketing Q&A about what he's doing or not doing with our team? Does he understand how disrespectful that looks?
More to the point, does he even care how disrespectful that looks?


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: pauld on Thursday, February 2, 2017, 16:28:05
More to the point, does he even care how disrespectful that looks?
That would be the obvious supplementary, but I'd already asked two questions, didn't want to be greedy :)


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Panda Paws on Thursday, February 2, 2017, 17:14:21
Yep agreed on the interview thing as a whole, important to note that no other DoF does post-match though?


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Honest Lee on Thursday, February 2, 2017, 17:25:45

But are the other DOFs picking the team, deciding tactics, substitutions, recruitment. washing the kit etc etc


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: pauld on Thursday, February 2, 2017, 17:29:56
Yep agreed on the interview thing as a whole, important to note that no other DoF does post-match though?
No, but then no other DoF is described as being in charge of selecting the team, tactics etc. It's not the title, it's the function. If Sherwood's responsible for picking the team, shape, tactics etc then he is responsible for what happens on the pitch so he should be the one to explain it. Instead of wheeling Williams out to shrug his shoulders and say "I dunno" as to why it's gone wrong yet again, whether there are any new signings coming, where we need new signings etc etc. That's just humiliating for Williams and frustrating for fans. If Sherwood's responsible for the team he should take some fucking responsibility. If he's not, who is?

Either way, refusing to face up after we've just watched another load of old bollocks while happily trotting out shite to some PR crap for a fucking computer game speaks volumes about how low down the priority list we come.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, February 2, 2017, 17:34:13
More to the point, does he even care how disrespectful that looks?

No, because he was getting paid to get them some publicity


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Thursday, February 2, 2017, 18:04:59
Using the old adage less is more and silence is golden it would serve Power right if no one phoned in. To be fair those that do will no doubt be brushed off with the usual bollocks and non answered questions.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: leftside on Thursday, February 2, 2017, 21:22:27
Those that think Power is Satan won't change their view regardless of what he says during the phone in.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Ells on Thursday, February 2, 2017, 22:54:55
Those that think Power is Satan won't change their view regardless of what he says during the phone in.

Quite. He's either going to say something wrong or be lying.
And no doubt someone will moan that their question wasn't asked, even though it was "WERE DA JOSE MONEY" written on a brick with crayon.





Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Batch on Thursday, February 2, 2017, 23:13:09
Those that think Power is Satan won't change their view regardless of what he says during the phone in.
.

But he should be asked the questions.  Some  aspects of the club are bordering on farcical.

He can either listen, or not. His choice. I do believe many people are being put off now, and not just the special ones.

To be honest I don't think I'll ever fully trust him given his closed shop approach. Now you can call that my problem, and it is because I'll be back next year. But it's the clubs problem if it really does start affecting bums on seats. Even if everything other than the team is rosy.

The phone in should be a two way thing.

But yes, once you think someone is full of shit, whatever they say will be shit to you.






Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: pauld on Friday, February 3, 2017, 09:41:34
The phone in should be a two way thing.
Phone calls generally have to be. Otherwise, it's just a nuisance call :)


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Friday, February 3, 2017, 09:43:34
The Trust will be live tweeting the phone in for those who can't listen live..


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Friday, February 3, 2017, 09:56:25
I have sent in all questions that were asked here and just said they are from this forum.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Batch on Friday, February 3, 2017, 10:56:21
Thanks DRS


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, February 3, 2017, 11:10:09
I have sent in all questions that were asked here and just said they are from this forum.
Excellent thanks Dean, although I doubt Shaun will read out any even slightly pressing questions and if he does then he or Power will probably instantly dismiss them as "shit stirring" despite the fact they are asked genuinely and are all (or pretty much all) very relevant.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: pauld on Friday, February 3, 2017, 11:16:56
I have sent in all questions that were asked here and just said they are from this forum.
Fucking grass ;)


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, February 3, 2017, 11:19:01
Fucking grass ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBrwaCjJIFU


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Batch on Friday, February 3, 2017, 11:40:50
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StlMdNcvCJo



....


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, February 3, 2017, 11:45:31
I'm phoning in. So many questions, not sure which one to ask.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: pauld on Friday, February 3, 2017, 11:46:28
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBrwaCjJIFU
If you can't tell the difference between fucking and whispering, I bet you'd cause a right scene in church :)


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Sippo on Friday, February 3, 2017, 11:48:13
I wonder if anyone will call in with anything positive? Knowing our fans, probably not.

We have signed some good players in the transfer window - that surely has to be a credit to those in charge.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, February 3, 2017, 11:50:28
 What positives are there?


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Sippo on Friday, February 3, 2017, 11:51:07
We've signed some good players, albeit on loan.

There is so much negativity.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, February 3, 2017, 11:54:54
Maybe. But there's only one person responsible for all the shit we're in now.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Tails on Friday, February 3, 2017, 11:55:50
Maybe. But there's only one person responsible for all the shit we're in now.

Trump?


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, February 3, 2017, 11:58:23
I wonder if anyone will call in with anything positive? Knowing our fans, probably not.

We have signed some good players in the transfer window - that surely has to be a credit to those in charge.

I think that you are right Sippo. It was clear that this team was sliding into the League 2 abyss and TS and LP have addressed that by bringing in a total of 9 players, as well as keeping Vigs. Yes 7 of them are loans, but the Chelsea lads aren't on their books for a laugh. Getting Gladwin and Ajose back is great business and the team has been lacking bite and goals and so Ince and Ajose should being this. We have also taken a couple of punts on Conroy and Starkey so I don't think we can say we have done nothing.

On paper, we should have enough to be in league 1 next year. Hopefully we can and Tactics and Lee can flex some muscle in the summer.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, February 3, 2017, 12:26:36
I think that you are right Sippo. It was clear that this team was sliding into the League 2 abyss and TS and LP have addressed that by bringing in a total of 9 players, as well as keeping Vigs. Yes 7 of them are loans, but the Chelsea lads aren't on their books for a laugh. Getting Gladwin and Ajose back is great business and the team has been lacking bite and goals and so Ince and Ajose should being this. We have also taken a couple of punts on Conroy and Starkey so I don't think we can say we have done nothing.

On paper, we should have enough to be in league 1 next year. Hopefully we can and Tactics and Lee can flex some muscle in the summer.

Chelsea are trying to replicate what the likes of Real Madrid have been doing for years.....namely hoover up as many possibly useful young players as you can.  Loan them out and then sell them for a decent price...acting a bit like a glorified agency.  The most recent example Patrick Bamford trousered Chelsea  6 mill, but never played a game for them. I think John Terry was their last academy product to play for them, during which time I'd imagine near on a thousand kids have gone through their system mostly to be discarded as non league standard.

However you want to lok at it the squad is still unbalanced with too many of the wrong type of players on loan and in the wrong positions, staying up is going to require one hell of a battle, just the sort of thing, there has been a conspicuous lack of desire for.



Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Friday, February 3, 2017, 13:09:22
Chelsea are trying to replicate what the likes of Real Madrid have been doing for years.....namely hoover up as many possibly useful young players as you can.  Loan them out and then sell them for a decent price...acting a bit like a glorified agency.  The most recent example Patrick Bamford trousered Chelsea  6 mill, but never played a game for them. I think John Terry was their last academy product to play for them, during which time I'd imagine near on a thousand kids have gone through their system mostly to be discarded as non league standard.

However you want to lok at it the squad is still unbalanced with too many of the wrong type of players on loan and in the wrong positions, staying up is going to require one hell of a battle, just the sort of thing, there has been a conspicuous lack of desire for.


I am not sure i agree with that. We have filled the positions needed. If they are good enough or not we will wait and see


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Sippo on Friday, February 3, 2017, 13:11:36
We needed a battling midfielder. We signed one.

We needed a goal scorer. We signed one.

We needed a CB. We signed one.

Not sure what else people wanted.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Friday, February 3, 2017, 13:20:40
We needed a battling midfielder. We signed one.

We needed a goal scorer. We signed one.

We needed a CB. We signed one.

Not sure what else people wanted.

MORRRREEEEEE!!!


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, February 3, 2017, 13:24:42
We needed a battling midfielder. We signed one.

We needed a goal scorer. We signed one.

We needed a CB. We signed one.

Not sure what else people wanted.
We needed them in the summer. Not as an afterthought when we are staring relegation in the face.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, February 3, 2017, 13:36:39
We needed them in the summer. Not as an afterthought when we are staring relegation in the face.

Signing Ajose, at least gives us a chance, without a scorer we were as good as down. But, there's a lot of pressure on him to deliver.  Cureton returned in 05/06 scored something like 7 in the last 18 which got us 3 or 4 wins, but still not enough.

I think Ajose fits best into a 3-5-2 system, so I'd expect to see something like this for Sun.

                                     Vigs
               Dabo, Branco, Nathan, Jones,  BOO
                         Kasim, Ince, Gladwin
                                Norris, Ajose

  SUBS:  Henry, Hylton, Smith, Brophy, Starkey, Conroy, Thomas


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Parkin09 on Friday, February 3, 2017, 13:40:04
I hardly think we're staring relegation in the face, yeah we're a bit shit but there are 5 shitter teams below us and I genuinely think we are better than all of them. I think we have enough about us to stay up.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, February 3, 2017, 13:41:58
No BOO for me. Thompson there, new fella at CB.

Kasim wont be seen in a Town shirt again. Midfield 3 of Colkett, Gladwin and Ince

Beaker and Ajose - hoping


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: ferret on Friday, February 3, 2017, 13:43:32
I hardly think we're staring relegation in the face, yeah we're a bit shit but there are 5 shitter teams below us and I genuinely think we are better than all of them. I think we have enough about us to stay up.

True, but Reg Smeeton reliably foresees relegation and untold misery every season, and has surely never been wrong to date.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, February 3, 2017, 13:44:19
I hardly think we're staring relegation in the face, yeah we're a bit shit but there are 5 shitter teams below us and I genuinely think we are better than all of them. I think we have enough about us to stay up.
Blimey, you're either a mega optimist or just very complacent. I'd say, at this moment, there are only 3 shitter teams than us.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, February 3, 2017, 13:45:26
I hardly think we're staring relegation in the face, yeah we're a bit shit but there are 5 shitter teams below us and I genuinely think we are better than all of them. I think we have enough about us to stay up.

Brilliant....reminds me of when I pointed out to Ray Hardman in 95 at an AGM our plight, he wouldn't countenance that we were in trouble.....I advised him to look at a league table.

 If you do the same, then you'll observe there are 4 teams below us all of whom we have to play in the coming 5 or 6 weeks, and the 2 immediately below us, have already beaten us quite easily this season.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, February 3, 2017, 13:50:51
No BOO for me. Thompson there, new fella at CB.

Kasim wont be seen in a Town shirt again. Midfield 3 of Colkett, Gladwin and Ince

Beaker and Ajose - hoping

According to the Adver BOO is still not ready. If you have that midfield, then you can't have one of Jones, Dabo, Ajose.  It's about balance, you need a left footer, as a left wing back. Brophy really doesn't seem to have any way recovered from his mystery ailment.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Batch on Friday, February 3, 2017, 14:22:17

                                     Vigs
               Dabo, Branco, Nathan, Jones,  BOO
                         Kasim, Ince, Gladwin
                                Norris, Ajose

  SUBS:  Henry, Hylton, Smith, Brophy, Starkey, Conroy, Thomas

Starkey on bench instead of Stewart?


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Friday, February 3, 2017, 14:27:06
Jones went off injured last week i wouldn't be suprised if he was the loan who misses out Sunday.

Anyway i have sent the questions and had an email back asking if i am available between 6/7 which i am not, so don't be shocked if they don't ask them.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Private Fraser on Friday, February 3, 2017, 14:30:47
Jones went off injured last week i wouldn't be suprised if he was the loan who misses out Sunday.



The Adver is reporting that it was only cramp and he will be ok for Sunday.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: TopBoy on Friday, February 3, 2017, 15:05:28
According to the Adver BOO is still not ready. If you have that midfield, then you can't have one of Jones, Dabo, Ajose.  It's about balance, you need a left footer, as a left wing back. Brophy really doesn't seem to have any way recovered from his mystery ailment.

You picked BOO to start with - So, who comes in for who?

Kasim/godard in for ince/gladwin/colkett to allow Dabo/Thompson wing backs?


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Friday, February 3, 2017, 15:20:29
Jones went off injured last week i wouldn't be suprised if he was the loan who misses out Sunday.

Anyway i have sent the questions and had an email back asking if i am available between 6/7 which i am not, so don't be shocked if they don't ask them.

As the qns are from the TEF can't somebody from here be available between 6 and 7, by proxy? Perhaps you could PM a copy of the email to said proxy volunteer, and let the Beeb know that there will be someone available...


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, February 3, 2017, 15:30:28
You picked BOO to start with - So, who comes in for who?

Kasim/godard in for ince/gladwin/colkett to allow Dabo/Thompson wing backs?

 I only went BOO, as I think this is the way to go to get Nathan and Ajose into the side.  I'd have got shot of him after laughinggasgate.  I actually have no idea what the current thinking is....although I'm sure there must be some strategy  :hmmm:


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, February 3, 2017, 15:33:45
As the qns are from the TEF can't somebody from here be available between 6 and 7, by proxy? Perhaps you could PM a copy of the email to said proxy volunteer, and let the Beeb know that there will be someone available...

Sounds like you're volunteering for the job..... how much does a phone call to Russia cost?


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Friday, February 3, 2017, 15:44:07
As the qns are from the TEF can't somebody from here be available between 6 and 7, by proxy? Perhaps you could PM a copy of the email to said proxy volunteer, and let the Beeb know that there will be someone available...
Happy to send you the email


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Friday, February 3, 2017, 16:06:02
Sounds like you're volunteering for the job..... how much does a phone call to Russia cost?
Get on it Reg, you talk a good game & it'll keep you off those porn sites for an hour  :nerner:


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Johnny Reeves on Friday, February 3, 2017, 16:26:42
You picked BOO to start with - So, who comes in for who?

Kasim/godard in for ince/gladwin/colkett to allow Dabo/Thompson wing backs?
I should sign up if you put Boo in the team,obviously you can't have ever seen him.He must have been a burger maker at Arsenal,i can't believe i've spent my hard earned cash watching this headless chicken.More non league than Goddard.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, February 3, 2017, 16:56:52
Get on it Reg, you talk a good game & it'll keep you off those porn sites for an hour  :nerner:

I'd happily quiz Power if there were such things as AGM's or even Fan's Forums these days....


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Friday, February 3, 2017, 17:17:34
Sounds like you're volunteering for the job..... how much does a phone call to Russia cost?
I thought you would know that with your predilection for things Eastern European :) Talking of which, I'll be tucked up in bed between 9 and 10 here (with any luck ;) )



Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, February 3, 2017, 19:08:08
First question about Tim Sherwood's role at the club.

Remit was to come and look at the players, coaching staff, backroom staff etc.

Decisions made between the 3 (Williams, Embleton and Sherwood)

Each signing during the window was down to Tim.

Luke has tools to help him now.

Question about why TS hasn't done many interviews etc - Basically TS couldn't add much more than LW does.

LP taking responsibility about poor recruitment but we've now spent more money in January than most teams in League 1 to recruit players and correct mistakes made pre-season. 


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, February 3, 2017, 19:18:14
Think Simon may have had too many Guinnesses!


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Costanza on Friday, February 3, 2017, 19:19:28
Rohan Ince is going to be amazing and then get locked up, isn't he?


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, February 3, 2017, 19:24:07
ooooh Ed isn't happy.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, February 3, 2017, 19:24:38
Wow! Good man


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, February 3, 2017, 19:25:49
Ed's got a script.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: suttonred on Friday, February 3, 2017, 19:26:02
What a fucking moron on now reading from a script. He'll be a facebook bod.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Friday, February 3, 2017, 19:26:56
Ed is a twat


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, February 3, 2017, 19:27:51
What a fucking moron on now reading from a script. He'll be a facebook bod.

I think he's got a twitter/FB group.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: suttonred on Friday, February 3, 2017, 19:28:00
Now he's off rant/script he's asking better stuff


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Costanza on Friday, February 3, 2017, 19:29:35
I thought Power dealt with Ed quite easily/well.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, February 3, 2017, 19:29:48
He's gunna blow!


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: suttonred on Friday, February 3, 2017, 19:30:02
Nah he's a twat  Yeah you ed if any doubt.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, February 3, 2017, 19:30:16
I thought Power dealt with Ed quite easily/well.

I agree.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, February 3, 2017, 19:31:25
I love how Ed moaned about the amount of loans but was then reminded about the season we got to Wembley when we used the loan system well. People tend to forget these things.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, February 3, 2017, 19:31:52
He's still trading off the PO season, though.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, February 3, 2017, 19:33:35
Ed lost any credibility when he refused to give Power any credit for the playoff season.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: JoeMezz on Friday, February 3, 2017, 19:33:58
Power so far talked about how poor we've been this season, no mention of how bad we were last season?


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: singingiiiffy on Friday, February 3, 2017, 19:34:16
Hi I'm Ed and I'm the fans leader of the group Fight the Power  :-[  :smugfu: what a cock.

I actually like listening to power and think he speaks very well. We have spent money, we do spend money, recruitment hasn't worked. This happens at clubs up and down the country. As long as we have a club to support on decent financial footing we will have good times and bad times


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, February 3, 2017, 19:34:22
Ed lost any credibility when he refused to give Power any credit for the playoff season.

I have to be honest and had forgotten that Power had brought Luongo et al in.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: garethgillman on Friday, February 3, 2017, 19:34:27
I think he's got a twitter/FB group.

Fight the Power on FB / Twitter, guy is a absolute bellend


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Costanza on Friday, February 3, 2017, 19:35:15
As long as we have a club to support on decent financial footing we will have good times and bad times

Now go and say that in that Facebook group...... and good luck.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: garethgillman on Friday, February 3, 2017, 19:36:13
Now go and say that in that Facebook group...... and good luck.

hahaha it's funny as hell in there right now


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: suttonred on Friday, February 3, 2017, 19:39:03
Hi I'm Ed and I'm the fans leader of the group Fight the Power  :-[  :smugfu: what a cock.

I actually like listening to power and think he speaks very well. We have spent money, we do spend money, recruitment hasn't worked. This happens at clubs up and down the country. As long as we have a club to support on decent financial footing we will have good times and bad times

Thing that always strikes me is he comes across as sincere. You really should do this more Lee, as it calms people down, well some people, the sensible ones..


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, February 3, 2017, 19:39:19
Hi I'm Ed and I'm the fans leader of the group Fight the Power  :-[  :smugfu: what a cock.

I actually like listening to power and think he speaks very well. We have spent money, we do spend money, recruitment hasn't worked. This happens at clubs up and down the country. As long as we have a club to support on decent financial footing we will have good times and bad times


What that man said.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: garethgillman on Friday, February 3, 2017, 19:40:10
Thing that always strikes me is he comes across as sincere. You really should do this more Lee, as it calms people down, well some people, the sensible ones..

It's about a month late but usually does them 3 times a season, start, middle and end, guessing it's hard to organise and don't want too many as go over same questions


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: suttonred on Friday, February 3, 2017, 19:41:46
It's about a month late but usually does them 3 times a season, start, middle and end, guessing it's hard to organise and don't want too many as go over same questions

I just think this one was a little too long since the last.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, February 3, 2017, 19:42:24
Nobody wants to know all the ins and outs at the club, but there really is no excuse for the complete lack of interaction since Sherwood's been here


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: garethgillman on Friday, February 3, 2017, 19:43:05
I just think this one was a little too long since the last.

It was but with Xmas and transfer window, you can see why...... it would be nice to do them more often but due to his residency in Switzerland and other stuff, it can't be easy.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: suttonred on Friday, February 3, 2017, 19:43:26
Nobody wants to know all the ins and outs at the club, but there really is no excuse for the complete lack of interaction since Sherwood's been here

Yeah he fudged that a bit, something not quite right there.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: suttonred on Friday, February 3, 2017, 19:45:05
It was but with Xmas and transfer window, you can see why...... it would be nice to do them more often but due to his residency in Switzerland and other stuff, it can't be easy.

Not for me, the timescale is fine, I know how things work. It could have saved ed a carton of printer ink on his script though. Sutton, always thinking of the village idiots i guess...


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: herthab on Friday, February 3, 2017, 19:47:47
It was but with Xmas and transfer window, you can see why...... it would be nice to do them more often but due to his residency in Switzerland and other stuff, it can't be easy.

Sorry Gareth, but that's bollocks. If Power wanted to have a phone in he could do it from anywhere. Switzerland have phones, internet, Skype.... I'm far from a Power hater, but come on.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Private Fraser on Friday, February 3, 2017, 19:48:58
Good, sensible stuff from Margaret in Oxfordshire.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Costanza on Friday, February 3, 2017, 19:49:22
Quarterly phone-ins are fine. People only demand them when it's shit.

I'd rather this than, Twitter conversations.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: suttonred on Friday, February 3, 2017, 19:50:12
Quarterly phone-ins are fine. People only demand them when it's shit.

I'd rather this than, Twitter conversations.

Amen


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: singingiiiffy on Friday, February 3, 2017, 19:50:22
Want do people genuinely want Sherwood to come out and say out of curiosity? He's still paid by Villa, he's helping out Power with recruitment and his managerial experience in a director of football role. Do directors of football usually do regular interviews after matches and to the press? Luke Williams role hasn't changed from what I'm aware of , he is the first team coach? He did interviews before Sherwood and should carry them on. The ONLY reason people want Sherwood to do match reports is because we are playing shit. If we were playing well no one would give a flying fuck


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: garethgillman on Friday, February 3, 2017, 19:50:49
Sorry Gareth, but that's bollocks. If Power wanted to have a phone in he could do it from anywhere. Switzerland have phones, internet, Skype.... I'm far from a Power hater, but come on.

They always do them when he is in the country, we don;t know why they do it that way...... maybe a question to put to the BBC?


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, February 3, 2017, 19:51:03
Big big offer for Vigs turned down in the transfer window.

He doesn't have a clause in his contract.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, February 3, 2017, 19:52:32
Oh god I think this clown Christian is from the FB group also.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Friday, February 3, 2017, 19:52:35
FUCKING KRISTIAN!!!!!!


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Friday, February 3, 2017, 19:53:11
Oh man, that could've been legendary


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: suttonred on Friday, February 3, 2017, 19:53:15
aggggggh  a christian its him isnt it


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: garethgillman on Friday, February 3, 2017, 19:53:24
Oh god I think this clown Christian is from the FB group also.

yep and says the same shit again "why don't we buy players"....... Considering we had 20+ permanents at the start of the season  ???


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, February 3, 2017, 19:53:34
Want do people genuinely want Sherwood to come out and say out of curiosity? He's still paid by Villa, he's helping out Power with recruitment and his managerial experience in a director of football role. Do directors of football usually do regular interviews after matches and to the press? Luke Williams role hasn't changed from what I'm aware of , he is the first team coach? He did interviews before Sherwood and should carry them on. The ONLY reason people want Sherwood to do match reports is because we are playing shit. If we were playing well no one would give a flying fuck
He's responsible for tactics and picking the team. It's him that should be answering questions post-match irrespective of performance or result.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: suttonred on Friday, February 3, 2017, 19:54:06
Ha ha Shaun binned him


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, February 3, 2017, 19:54:45
Ha ha Shaun binned him

I think he realised that he was going to be a liability.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Costanza on Friday, February 3, 2017, 19:55:07
Ha ha Shaun binned him

He was too nervous anyway.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: suttonred on Friday, February 3, 2017, 19:57:15
I think he realised that he was going to be a liability.

ooh ooh ooh tunnel..


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: singingiiiffy on Friday, February 3, 2017, 19:59:06
He's responsible for tactics and picking the team. It's him that should be answering questions post-match irrespective of performance or result.

But luke is the first team coach, first team coaches are fine doing interviews. First team coaches can still see what their players are doing wrong and give reviews of the match. We don't have a manager I think your struggling with that thought. We have director/ head coach format however our director has a wealth of managerial experience compared to our first team coach and is being used to his maximum

Would you genuinely be bothered about interviews if we playing well and successful? No. Of all the things to be bothered about this must surely be bottom of the list.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Ginginho on Friday, February 3, 2017, 19:59:19
It was a different Christian judging by posts on that group


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: suttonred on Friday, February 3, 2017, 20:01:27
It was a different Christian judging by posts on that group

A dumber one? Is that possible?


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, February 3, 2017, 20:02:18
Nothing startling in that, as others have said I enjoy listening to Mr Power, I think he comes across well.

That chat with Ed was amusing!


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, February 3, 2017, 20:02:25
Power handled that well enough. Didn't get flustered even when Ed the peoples' saviour called in.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Costanza on Friday, February 3, 2017, 20:02:39
Lee Power was far more defensive and pissy during the previous phone-in. That was a return to form for him because, let's be honest, he normally negotiates his way through them quite well.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Ginginho on Friday, February 3, 2017, 20:06:15
Missed the infamous Ed, so will have to listen to it when it's available on iPlayer.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, February 3, 2017, 20:06:53
But luke is the first team coach, first team coaches are fine doing interviews. First team coaches can still see what their players are doing wrong and give reviews of the match. We don't have a manager I think your struggling with that thought. We have director/ head coach format however our director has a wealth of managerial experience compared to our first team coach and is being used to his maximum
I think you're juggling semantics. Sherwood's responsibilities are that of a traditional manager despite what job title he has.

I presume Luke carries out Sherwood's instructions. It's a strange managerial structure however you look at it - magnified by poor performances.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: tans on Friday, February 3, 2017, 20:07:45
What did ed say? My internet cut out beforehand


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, February 3, 2017, 20:07:57
I think the fans that are demanding for Power to go need to ask themselves just who is going to come in and buy the club? Yes, its hardly exciting not losing money but would you rather be like Coventry City, Blackburn, Blackpool with dodgy foreign owner who care little for the fans.

It sounds like we are in talks with the Eady Trust about the training ground, which is a positive thing.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, February 3, 2017, 20:08:47
Missed the infamous Ed, so will have to listen to it when it's available on iPlayer.

When listening, just try not to think of 'Park Life' by blur.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, February 3, 2017, 20:10:01
I think the fans that are demanding for Power to go need to ask themselves just who is going to come in and buy the club? Yes, its hardly exciting not losing money but would you rather be like Coventry City, Blackburn, Blackpool with dodgy foreign owner who care little for the fans.

It sounds like we are in talks with the Eady Trust about the training ground, which is a positive thing.
More interesting that we are still talking to the council - unless that was just a general 'fluff' comment.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Costanza on Friday, February 3, 2017, 20:10:04
I think I'm going to be judging any real/significant discontent on how the ST sales go during pre-season. Lose against Oxford and there will be mild anarchy but that would happened with we were sitting comfortably in mid-table.



Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Ells on Friday, February 3, 2017, 20:10:24
I think you're juggling semantics. Sherwood's responsibilities are that of a traditional manager despite what job title he has.

I presume Luke carries out Sherwood's instructions. It's a strange managerial structure however you look at it - magnified by poor performances.

That's a good point though. Some would argue correlation is not causation..


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: @mwooly63 on Friday, February 3, 2017, 20:11:32
It sounds like we are in talks with the Eady Trust about the training ground, which is a positive thing.

Would be if the club owned the training ground not Power.

Can't see them parting with the cash


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: suttonred on Friday, February 3, 2017, 20:11:47
When listening, just try not to think of 'Park Life' by blur.

Nice comparison. I just imagine less dribbling on Park life.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: suttonred on Friday, February 3, 2017, 20:13:43
Would be if the club owned the training ground not Power.

Can't see them parting with the cash

I'd suggest that's probably part of the negotiation, in that the structure or percentage of ownership changes more favorably to the club.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: RedRag on Friday, February 3, 2017, 20:17:53
Must have missed any Qs abput why LW hasn't been sacked or at what stage results would impact on his continued employment?

Was it because Power mucked up the recruitment?

Was the "hopefully" comment in passing posted earlier in regard to our continued League One status really promising enough to dispel LWs goldplated status?  There seems to be a holy trinity of unaccountability.



Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: suttonred on Friday, February 3, 2017, 20:24:37
Must have missed any Qs abput why LW hasn't been sacked or at what stage results would impact on his continued employment?

Was it because Power mucked up the recruitment?

Was the "hopefully" comment in passing posted earlier in regard to our continued League One status really promising enough to dispel LWs goldplated status?  There seems to be a holy trinity of unaccountability.



You did miss it, and yes he admitted he mucked up.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: pauld on Friday, February 3, 2017, 20:24:55
There seems to be a holy trinity of unaccountability.
Well put.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: ronnie21 on Friday, February 3, 2017, 20:38:33
Interesting when questioned on the amount of loans he slipped in that one or two of them could be made permanent allowing all the loan players into the match day squad.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: garethgillman on Friday, February 3, 2017, 20:40:02
Interesting when questioned on the amount of loans he slipped in that one or two of them could be made permanent allowing all the loan players into the match day squad.

think everyone expected that, I can see Ajose and Gladwin as most likely, Jones as an outside chance, the rest I can't see yet but never know.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: tans on Friday, February 3, 2017, 20:46:08
Interesting when questioned on the amount of loans he slipped in that one or two of them could be made permanent allowing all the loan players into the match day squad.

Cant make anyone permanent now surely? The windows shut


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, February 3, 2017, 20:46:35
Interesting when questioned on the amount of loans he slipped in that one or two of them could be made permanent allowing all the loan players into the match day squad.

I sort of half-heard that, but thought that he was suggesting they might be signed for next season as the window is closed. Can we make loans permanent after the window has closed?


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: garethgillman on Friday, February 3, 2017, 20:49:25
Cant make anyone permanent now surely? The windows shut

Nope, they would have to be done in the summer like we did for Vigs


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Costanza on Friday, February 3, 2017, 20:49:55
Cant make anyone permanent now surely? The windows shut

Are free agents not allowed to join up now?


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: garethgillman on Friday, February 3, 2017, 20:51:30
Are free agents not allowed to join up now?

yes, if they don't have a club we can sign them anytime as long as they haven't played for 2 other teams in the same season.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: pauld on Friday, February 3, 2017, 20:53:04
Nope, they would have to be done in the summer like we did for Vigs
In which case that wouldn't solve the problem at all would it as the loans also expire at the end of the season?


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, February 3, 2017, 20:55:11
The last time we signed Ajose we did so after the window closed as he was a free agent. Posh(?) cancelled his contract. But I think I read that that loophole has been closed. not sure how true that is though.

Also rather fishy.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: garethgillman on Friday, February 3, 2017, 20:57:13
In which case that wouldn't solve the problem at all would it as the loans also expire at the end of the season?

What situation? He admitted he got the recruitment wrong and has used extra loans to fill the gaps so we have a competitive team, it's not like we went into the season with 7 loans, but all the teams around us did...... the loans being bought would be for next season, preparation  ::)


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: garethgillman on Friday, February 3, 2017, 20:57:42
The last time we signed Ajose we did so after the window closed as he was a free agent. Posh(?) cancelled his contract. But I think I read that that loophole has been closed. not sure how true that is though.

Also rather fishy.

Was Leeds not posh


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, February 3, 2017, 21:00:06
Was Leeds not posh

Either way, is that loophole still open?


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: garethgillman on Friday, February 3, 2017, 21:01:09
Either way, is that loophole still open?

I would guess so as the player is officially without a club, Caddis is the same at the moment


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: RobertT on Friday, February 3, 2017, 21:05:05
Seems you can convert an existing loan player to a permanent transfer outside of the transfer window, which relates to the transfer of the players registration.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Friday, February 3, 2017, 21:08:42
Must have missed any Qs abput why LW hasn't been sacked or at what stage results would impact on his continued employment?

Was it because Power mucked up the recruitment?

Was the "hopefully" comment in passing posted earlier in regard to our continued League One status really promising enough to dispel LWs goldplated status?  There seems to be a holy trinity of unaccountability.


Pretty certain Power said numerous times there that this was his fault and that the buck stops with him.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: RobertT on Friday, February 3, 2017, 21:12:28
I think what might be needed is some sort of interview where he explains what he has learned and how it will be different next time, set some expectations, then for the same outlet to follow-up part way through the next window.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, February 3, 2017, 21:15:55
I think what might be needed is some sort of interview where he explains what he has learned and how it will be different next time, set some expectations, then for the same outlet to follow-up part way through the next window.

The question (or similar) was asked but he went off on a tangent about budgets. I don't think it was necessarily a deliberate ploy to avoid it, rather he just misread it.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Posh Red on Friday, February 3, 2017, 21:16:01
Either way, is that loophole still open?

I didn't think it was, hence why Joey Barton couldn't sign for Burnley until January even though his contract had been cancelled by Rangers.

Don't know if that's just in the Premier League though


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: RobertT on Friday, February 3, 2017, 21:17:32
I didn't think it was, hence why Joey Barton couldn't sign for Burnley until January even though his contract had been cancelled by Rangers.

Don't know if that's just in the Premier League though

It doesn't matter, provided we have the players registration by having them on loan, we can convert them to permanent (obviously with the selling clubs consent!)


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: red sheldon on Friday, February 3, 2017, 21:18:03
I thought it was interesting to hear LP accept that the loss of corporate seating is an issue, which together with his comments about the Eady Trust and the Council made me feel a bit hopeful that he could be starting to think about doing up the CG, which he had previously said was not a priority


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: pauld on Friday, February 3, 2017, 21:46:41
What situation?
The situation of having 7 loan players but only being able to field 5 of them in the squad which was the situation under discussion:
Interesting when questioned on the amount of loans he slipped in that one or two of them could be made permanent allowing all the loan players into the match day squad.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: garethgillman on Friday, February 3, 2017, 22:22:12
The situation of having 7 loan players but only being able to field 5 of them in the squad which was the situation under discussion:

Coventry, Rovers and a few others have the same "situation" as us and have done all season, I would say it's a positive as we have an abundance of quality players who we can change if we need e.g. play Gladwin one game, play Colkett the next.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, February 3, 2017, 22:24:02
Coventry, Rovers and a few others have the same "situation" as us and have done all season, I would say it's a positive as we have an abundance of quality players who we can change if we need e.g. play Gladwin one game, play Colkett the next.

Do you actually go to games?


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: tans on Friday, February 3, 2017, 22:32:12
I think Conor Thomas is the lynchpin our midfield desperately needs.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: garethgillman on Friday, February 3, 2017, 22:40:06
Do you actually go to games?

Want to see my ticket stubs? I don't get there as much as I would like too but yes I still go  ::)

It's subjective but we do have quite a few quality players but they just haven't performed this year, we have ripped the hell out of teams when they want too but too often we lay back and let the opposition do one over us.

Thompson, obika, Kasim, JSW (injured), Vigs, Brophy, Goddard, are all quality players but due to injuries and other factors just not shown that enough.

Ajose, Colkett, Gladwin, Ince & Dabo are all extra quality we have added to that list

We should be mid-table but have been let down by piss poor performances and dodgy tactics, we should be mid table with this team which hopefully they can put a few good performances in and score a few more goals, we shouldn't be fighting relegation.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: garethgillman on Friday, February 3, 2017, 22:41:49
I think Conor Thomas is the lynchpin our midfield desperately needs.

Play him alongside Ince and I would think he would shine, when he is the only defensive midfielder he seems out of his depth but he has played over 100 games in this league and before an injury, was set to join Liverpool so can't be that bad as some fans make him out to be


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Batch on Friday, February 3, 2017, 22:55:34
Did I catch it right, that Williams does in fact pick the team after all?
Did the question about having to play loan players contractually/financially get asked.
He did say he owns the training ground, so he can hardly keep playing "the club is better off" card on that. Which is fine while he's still here but then ..

From what I heard Power answered quite competently, but without saying much.
---------
Oh and GG its not subjective about the 'abundance of quality', the league table is qualification there isn't much. Whether Ince and Ajose turn that around we shall see,fair to middling chance
-----

So in summary, from what I heard, not much learned, no insight into how long term recruitment, communication or any other issues will be resolved.

My opinion on Sherwood diminishes by the day...


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: garethgillman on Friday, February 3, 2017, 23:03:33
He did say he owns the training ground, so he can hardly keep playing "the club is better off" card on that. Which is fine while he's still here but then ..

From what has been said previously, when he leaves it would be sold to the new owner of the club, at present it's on a long-term peppercorn lease as the club could never have raised the funds to buy the land and set up the training ground, he is only able to do it as he is using the rest of the land for his own purposes.

We won't know what will happen until it does but I can't see him wanting to keep the land and screw over the club BUT Kassam is doing it to Oxford (500k a year rent on their ground).


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: suttonred on Friday, February 3, 2017, 23:12:36
Did I catch it right, that Williams does in fact pick the team after all?
Did the question about having to play loan players contractually/financially get asked.
He did say he owns the training ground, so he can hardly keep playing "the club is better off" card on that. Which is fine while he's still here but then ..

From what I heard Power answered quite competently, but without saying much.
---------
Oh and GG its not subjective about the 'abundance of quality', the league table is qualification there isn't much. Whether Ince and Ajose turn that around we shall see,fair to middling chance
-----

So in summary, from what I heard, not much learned, no insight into how long term recruitment, communication or any other issues will be resolved.

My opinion on Sherwood diminishes by the day...

You've gone a bit KR/FB there. so I'll just start with what is "long term recruitment" in L1? Or your expectations of it? As in the current way the world is, I sure as hell can't see a footballer getting a gold watch these days.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Batch on Friday, February 3, 2017, 23:25:24
You've gone a bit KR/FB there. so I'll just start with what is "long term recruitment" in L1? Or your expectations of it? As in the current way the world is, I sure as hell can't see a footballer getting a gold watch these days.

I was ambiguous/unclear. I meant the recruitment in the summer - as in whether the long term approach to recruitment is to change to break the cycle of crap signings in September, bail out in January.

Sounds like he's going to keep doing as we do and hope that Sherwood (or whoever) gets it right next time.

I was hoping to see it tweaked a bit from academy rejects and hopeless cases. That said, I can see why he went for Murray - it just didn't work out.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: tans on Friday, February 3, 2017, 23:52:51
Play him alongside Ince and I would think he would shine, when he is the only defensive midfielder he seems out of his depth but he has played over 100 games in this league and before an injury, was set to join Liverpool so can't be that bad as some fans make him out to be

I was taking the piss. I dont think ive ever seen him make a tackle. Awful


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: garethgillman on Saturday, February 4, 2017, 00:15:16
I was taking the piss. I dont think ive ever seen him make a tackle. Awful

He hasn't played that badly when he has played in defence, who knows if he will get a chance with Ince now in midfield, maybe one of those who we try and get rid of at the end of the season (but he is on a 2 year I think).


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: tans on Saturday, February 4, 2017, 00:24:28
3


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Whits on Saturday, February 4, 2017, 00:33:17
I've read through the thread but has anyone got a good summary of the q&a?



Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: garethgillman on Saturday, February 4, 2017, 00:49:16
I've read through the thread but has anyone got a good summary of the q&a?



https://twitter.com/AdverSport


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, February 4, 2017, 02:52:28
Want to see my ticket stubs? I don't get there as much as I would like too but yes I still go  ::)

Let me tell you Gareth, this is right up there amongst the worst sides in our history, which fair enough Power has recognised and has tried to do something about it.

Looks like a sticking plaster job to me, but let's see. The big game on our horizon is at Gigg Lane a week today....I worry about James Vaughan, 7 goals in 3 games, more than out frontmen have scored all season....hopefully he'll have blown out his hot spell by next Sat.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Whits on Saturday, February 4, 2017, 05:33:44
https://twitter.com/AdverSport
thank you


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Saturday, February 4, 2017, 10:13:55
Didn't get chance to listen last night but have read through. Was there any mention of Caddis or the experienced guy from Blackburn ghat Sherwood was 'rumoured' to have mentioned. Also I saw there is no release clause for Vigs but did LP confirm if the Scousers have a sell on clause (I'm assuming they do)?


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Batch on Saturday, February 4, 2017, 10:20:15
. Was there any mention of Caddis

Yes there was.

Reply to the effect "Caddis is a great player, but wages at Birmingham would have been high and he's probably got other options...if he were available to us we'd look at him"

Much as you'd expect.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Batch on Saturday, February 4, 2017, 10:22:35
Quote from: adverTwitter
Power says that Luke Williams does have more of a part in picking #stfc line-ups than earlier suggested #powerhour

Thought I heard that.

We are lumbered with him aren't we.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Saturday, February 4, 2017, 10:33:21
Yes there was.

Reply to the effect "Caddis is a great player, but wages at Birmingham would have been high and he's probably got other options...if he were available to us we'd look at him"

Much as you'd expect.

Cheers Batch.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, February 4, 2017, 11:51:41
Having a listen to it now, if you haven't heard it and want to catch up here is the link.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04rjh2w


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, February 4, 2017, 13:14:42
Ed made me chuckle :) not in a good way, but chuckle I did.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, February 4, 2017, 13:28:31
I can imagine that cunt wearing a beret.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, February 4, 2017, 13:31:08
I can imagine that cunt wearing a beret.
He was very aggressive!


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Saturday, February 4, 2017, 13:55:25
Someone added me to that fucking facebook fans group and they are bumming Ed on there.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: herthab on Saturday, February 4, 2017, 13:58:02
It's funny how differently people see things. I thought Ed was fucking pathetic, but the majority on the Facebook page think he's some kind of hero and that Power was wriggling under his interrogation.
The media side has improved recently, which means more people are now moaning about the content, rather than the lack of coverage. We needed players, now people are moaning that we've got too many loans. People are staying away, while at the same time moaning that Power isn't spending enough.

I think some people are just moaning cunts.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, February 4, 2017, 14:17:09
Someone added me to that fucking facebook fans group and they are bumming Ed on there.
Yes i see what you mean  :no:

(https://s24.postimg.org/cpy7jtn51/Untitled.jpg)


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, February 4, 2017, 14:21:58
:D

(https://s30.postimg.org/6yfa2aakx/Untitled.png)


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: THE FLASH on Saturday, February 4, 2017, 18:05:20
It's funny how differently people see things. I thought Ed was fucking pathetic, but the majority on the Facebook page think he's some kind of hero and that Power was wriggling under his interrogation.
The media side has improved recently, which means more people are now moaning about the content, rather than the lack of coverage. We needed players, now people are moaning that we've got too many loans. People are staying away, while at the same time moaning that Power isn't spending enough.

I think some people are just moaning cunts.

He let emotions get the better of him. He had prepared but it got to him.

To rattle Power you just need a mountain of facts (not opinion) and before you ask the questions ensure you dismiss all the defensive stuff he's going to say....highest position in 100 years....6 times in Admin...90 minutes from Championship blah blah.

He lost his cool, especially on the comeback. A bit more thought and Power would of lost it I reckon.

I did laugh as he referred to Ed as the minority....


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Batch on Saturday, February 4, 2017, 18:33:04
Ed actually has some reasonable questions in there tough, just presented them badly/in a way Power won't respond to.



Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: garethgillman on Saturday, February 4, 2017, 18:36:01
Ed actually has some reasonable questions in there tough, just presented them badly/in a way Power won't respond to.



He actually tried too but Ed kept trying to read his script and talk over hiim, he didn't want to ask a question, he just wanted to read his lines and that was it, he was stumped and had to be asked a couple of times what his question was.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, February 4, 2017, 19:27:38
Why on earth was Ed trying to criticise Power for not using the Eady money for the training ground? Was he really not aware that Power doesn't get to choose what that is spent on?


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, February 4, 2017, 19:43:49
So, what snippets of info did he let slip yesterday?

Training ground still awaiting some sort of planning application

Maybe there is something in the wind re a CG revamp

He is in talks re Eady

I'm not really any the wiser about Sherwood - doesn't seem a logical or workable management set up

Hopefully after admitting a couple of horrendous recruitment windows he's learnt his lesson

The thing with Power is that people either believe what he tells us or they don't. He doesn't exactly exude transparency.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Batch on Saturday, February 4, 2017, 20:34:56
He actually tried too but Ed kept trying to read his script and talk over hiim, he didn't want to ask a question, he just wanted to read his lines and that was it, he was stumped and had to be asked a couple of times what his question was.

It started off as a questionless rant from a script.
He went on to ask about the piss poor communication, training ground ownership, and the standard of recruits.

Was it Ed that also asked if we were running breakeven on the next set of accounts? The bullshit "one for my accountant" answer irks. It doesn't even matter unless Power is taking the piss on how the shortfall is met - so just answer it.

I agree that Power didn't have much chance to answer all the points, but he did at least tease out the Eady money answer.

We also learned Sherwood isn't really in charge of everything, other than player recruitment. And implied that Williams was sandbagging in the "don't know" answers on January transfers.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: garethgillman on Saturday, February 4, 2017, 21:39:37

Was it Ed that also asked if we were running breakeven on the next set of accounts? The bullshit "one for my accountant" answer irks. It doesn't even matter unless Power is taking the piss on how the shortfall is met - so just answer it.

No, it was David and Power didn;t say "ask the accountants", he said, he wasn't sure so would have to speak to the accountants but then went on to say the club was made debt free and breaking even at the start of the seson but since has had to put money in to improve the cashflow. So going by that, it's a good possibility we are profit making in last years accounts (as they are to July 2016) but 2016-17 will likely see a loss unless we have a sudden improvement in gates and revenue.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Ells on Saturday, February 4, 2017, 21:43:47
Yes i see what you mean  :no:

(https://s24.postimg.org/cpy7jtn51/Untitled.jpg)

"Sorry was out drinking"

Hahaha lad!!!


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Batch on Saturday, February 4, 2017, 21:57:51
No, it was David and Power didn;t say "ask the accountants", he said, he wasn't sure so would have to speak to the accountants

I said he said it was "one for the accountants" =  he would have to ask the accountants = he would need to speak to the accountants. What on earth are you on about?

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but then went on to say the club was made debt free and breaking even at the start of the seson but since has had to put money in to improve the cashflow. So going by that, it's a good possibility we are profit making in last years accounts (as they are to July 2016) but 2016-17 will likely see a loss unless we have a sudden improvement in gates and revenue.

But the point was I don't believe he doesn't have a handle on the accounts (to July 2016). I think its BS.

If he meant in 'we were breakeven at the start of the season' meaning that yes last year was breakeven then fair enough.

I assumed he was at that point talking about this years budget, because he also mention gates declining and the extra needed for new recruits.

Again not achieving breakeven isn't in itself a problem if the shortfall is met with a reasonable loan/out of his pocket - though I'd rather not rack up debt to him obviously.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, February 4, 2017, 21:59:22
I notice Ed has deleted his movements Twitter account. Conspiracy...?

(https://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/files/2016/12/Nah.gif)


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Batch on Saturday, February 4, 2017, 22:07:16
I notice Ed has deleted his movements Twitter account. Conspiracy...?

(http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/weirdalfoil_2322.jpg)


Did it contain any slanderous allegations? Mind you the Trump account is still running so maybe Twitter don't care about that.

Ed's dead baby, Ed's dead.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: garethgillman on Saturday, February 4, 2017, 22:11:27
Again not achieving breakeven isn't in itself a problem if the shortfall is met with a reasonable loan/out of his pocket - though I'd rather not rack up debt to him obviously.

How else is a business meant to get meaningful finance without going to a bank with high interest, that's what got us £9m in debt which Fitton and Black wiped. Shareholder loans are the best form of finance as:

- it's only repaid when the business can afford it
- normally interest free but if has interest is much lower than a bank loan
- the owner can wipe it at any time (Bolton)
- Bank loans can be called in if the business doesn't meet it's payments (ala administration)

Any shortfalls at the moment is met by Power and that will be the same for most clubs in this division, Bolton had close to £170m of debt to their owner, if that was a traditional loan, they would have been stuffed many many years ago.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Batch on Saturday, February 4, 2017, 22:24:52
Thanks captain obvious.





Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, February 5, 2017, 06:38:04
How else is a business meant to get meaningful finance without going to a bank with high interest, that's what got us £9m in debt which Fitton and Black wiped. Shareholder loans are the best form of finance as:

- it's only repaid when the business can afford it
- normally interest free but if has interest is much lower than a bank loan
- the owner can wipe it at any time (Bolton)
- Bank loans can be called in if the business doesn't meet it's payments (ala administration)

Any shortfalls at the moment is met by Power and that will be the same for most clubs in this division, Bolton had close to £170m of debt to their owner, if that was a traditional loan, they would have been stuffed many many years ago.

If you think Power is lending the club money at no or low interest you need a kick in the bollocks from the tooth fairy.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: kirky69 on Sunday, February 5, 2017, 07:32:32
Do you know that for a fact Bellend or merely an opinion?


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, February 5, 2017, 08:23:56
The previous phone in he was asked what rate he was charging on loans to the club. He used the 'have to ask accountant' cop out answer.

He's stated many times he is here to make money so lending at zero rate isn't the way to do it.

And, btw, I wouldn't really expect him to. It's the rate he's charging we'll never know.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Monday, February 6, 2017, 12:47:53
I didn't listen to the phone in, but I read a transcript of what Ed said and I don't think there is a lot wrong with it. Regardless of what some might think of his opinion, it was one Power needed to hear because I honestly think he is so deluded he doesn't realise (until maybe now) the level of discontent within our support for him.

He was obviously reading off a script to come out with all of that. But I don't think people should be hitting him too hard for that. It's better you work out what you want to say and prepare for it. Usually what happens is people just call up and ramble with whatever comes in to your head at that particular moment.

What I would have personally liked would have been more clarity on what debt the club has. Power often makes statements like the club "had no real debt at the start of the season" but then we hear of money the club owes him, money owed to Andrew Black if we redevelop the ground and other reports that the club is anywhere from £4m to £9m in debt. A lack of a clear answer just adds to his shifty image.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Monday, February 6, 2017, 12:54:19
Oh and I sencirely hope whoever is in charge of signing off the Eady money is scrutinising where its going. The last thing that should be happening is it going towards a training ground the club doesn't own.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, February 6, 2017, 12:57:59
Oh and I sencirely hope whoever is in charge of signing off the Eady money is scrutinising where its going. The last thing that should be happening is it going towards a training ground the club doesn't own.
I think that is why its taking so long getting sorted, must be 2 years+ now?


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Monday, February 6, 2017, 15:25:50
I didn't listen to the phone in, but I read a transcript of what Ed said and I don't think there is a lot wrong with it. Regardless of what some might think of his opinion, it was one Power needed to hear because I honestly think he is so deluded he doesn't realise (until maybe now) the level of discontent within our support for him.

He was obviously reading off a script to come out with all of that. But I don't think people should be hitting him too hard for that. It's better you work out what you want to say and prepare for it. Usually what happens is people just call up and ramble with whatever comes in to your head at that particular moment.

What I would have personally liked would have been more clarity on what debt the club has. Power often makes statements like the club "had no real debt at the start of the season" but then we hear of money the club owes him, money owed to Andrew Black if we redevelop the ground and other reports that the club is anywhere from £4m to £9m in debt. A lack of a clear answer just adds to his shifty image.
I disagree. When Ed was asked questions in return he panicked and went as defensive as Power does. If he is going to scrutinize like he did at least back it up.

It was also the way he spoke to him which i found odd,i am calling on behalf of the power out group like it's some kind of movement. Power said he believes a lot of what is said on twitter is people hiding behind fake profiles and when they are asked questions themselves they disapear. Ed deleted his account within minutes


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, February 6, 2017, 15:50:31
I disagree. When Ed was asked questions in return he panicked and went as defensive as Power does. If he is going to scrutinize like he did at least back it up.

It was also the way he spoke to him which i found odd,i am calling on behalf of the power out group like it's some kind of movement. Power said he believes a lot of what is said on twitter is people hiding behind fake profiles and when they are asked questions themselves they disapear. Ed deleted his account within minutes
This was my take on Ed too.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Monday, February 6, 2017, 17:34:04
I disagree. When Ed was asked questions in return he panicked and went as defensive as Power does. If he is going to scrutinize like he did at least back it up.

It was also the way he spoke to him which i found odd,i am calling on behalf of the power out group like it's some kind of movement. Power said he believes a lot of what is said on twitter is people hiding behind fake profiles and when they are asked questions themselves they disapear. Ed deleted his account within minutes

To be fair I just read what he initiially said up to when he was pushed on if he actually had a question and responded "When are you leaving?" I'm not privy to what happened afterwards.

Regardless, what he said initially was a decent opinion on how a very large proportion of our fan base feels. The thing is these radio phone ins are magnets for morons so you're not likely to get someone very articulate. The people complaining it was scripted should be thankful because the cringe would have been tenfold if it wasn't.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, February 6, 2017, 17:41:00
I for one am very grateful for his scripted parklife impression, it gave me a chuckle.

I suspect it gave him a sense of enormous well-being.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Captain Beefheart on Monday, February 6, 2017, 18:50:26
I for one am very grateful for his scripted parklife impression, it gave me a chuckle.

I suspect it gave him a sense of enormous well-being.

Safe in the knowledge there will always be a piece of his heart devoted to it (Swindon Taaaaaaaaan)


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: A Gent Orange on Monday, February 6, 2017, 19:47:53
It does fit Parklife, and I've managed to quickly edit a few bits of it together. Just need to work out how to share it.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Nemo on Monday, February 6, 2017, 20:37:41
It does fit Parklife, and I've managed to quickly edit a few bits of it together. Just need to work out how to share it.

https://instaud.io/


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: A Gent Orange on Monday, February 6, 2017, 22:08:40
https://instaud.io/
Cheers. Give me a minute as I just need to adjust the levels.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: A Gent Orange on Monday, February 6, 2017, 22:19:25
https://instaud.io/KAK

Here you go then. Bit rough but for a first attempt? Okay, very rough.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, February 6, 2017, 22:37:51
Nice work.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, February 6, 2017, 22:40:31
Has he resurfaced yet?


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: A Gent Orange on Monday, February 6, 2017, 22:45:32
Cheers, Flashheart. Who resurfaced? Ed or Timmy


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, February 6, 2017, 23:03:31
They are one and the same!

(http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/evlhnk.gif)


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Batch on Monday, February 6, 2017, 23:14:45
https://instaud.io/KAK

Here you go then. Bit rough but for a first attempt? Okay, very rough.

:) :)


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, February 7, 2017, 12:17:17
https://instaud.io/KAK

Here you go then. Bit rough but for a first attempt? Okay, very rough.

Great work. You should share it in that facebook fans group :)


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: A Gent Orange on Tuesday, February 7, 2017, 14:54:51
Someone would have to do that for me. Don't know why I'm not invited.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, February 7, 2017, 16:23:09
Someone would have to do that for me. Don't know why I'm not invited.

I've posted the link to the washbag page


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Ells on Tuesday, February 7, 2017, 19:27:08
That is a work of art  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Someone please post their reaction to it.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: @mwooly63 on Tuesday, February 7, 2017, 20:26:47
Very good.
Did hear a sound bite on FB today, shortened to just cunt bumpkin
 :clap:


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: A Gent Orange on Tuesday, February 7, 2017, 20:53:38
Very good.
Did hear a sound bite on FB today, shortened to just cunt bumpkin
 :clap:
Yeah, Jay requested that. No idea why. People seem to like swearing.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Batch on Friday, February 1, 2019, 20:00:30
Don't forget there's a Wellens one today in about a minute, assuming it's still on


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Batch on Friday, February 1, 2019, 20:04:36
It is on... Now...


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: woolster on Friday, February 1, 2019, 20:19:49
It is on... Now...
let us know if he mentions if the game is on or not :please:


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Friday, February 1, 2019, 20:21:08
Updates would be appreciated please as I'm stuck in work.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Batch on Friday, February 1, 2019, 20:23:58
Re : game on/off. Nothing new added, the decision won't be made until tomorrow.

General updates, only got mobile so difficult. But loathed strangers (Rich) its tweeting


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Batch on Friday, February 1, 2019, 20:27:18
So far he's talked recruitment starting now, but sometimes it's easier to pick up players in January. He's got a list for dinner and is starting the scouting now.

He's talked Martin Smith and pointed out a couple of flaws that need addressing re: losing players.

He's talked 6 loans, basically saying better to have the players than not.

He's talked briefly about Robinson, saying he's the type of player that has spells of scoring and we need a player to do that right now. Can create space too


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: woolster on Friday, February 1, 2019, 20:27:53
Re : game on/off. Nothing new added, the decision won't be made until tomorrow.

General updates, only got mobile so difficult. But loathed strangers (Rich) its tweeting
:ty:


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Batch on Friday, February 1, 2019, 20:30:38
He's talked Port Vale and Richards. Hasn't their chairman heard of email. Wants to keep him but understand other clubs offered longer contacts.

Nelson - will revisit in summer, but if they go down they might want to keep him!

Will look at loans and if they do well will try and keep.

Put circular out for our available players. Nobody interested speaks volumes!


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Batch on Friday, February 1, 2019, 20:33:11
Wellens doesn't like cheese.

Repeat Wellens doesn't like cheese.

Except on pizza


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Batch on Friday, February 1, 2019, 20:34:31
Only asked Ipswich re Wolfie on likelihood of recall in January, not about signing him. Thinks with a bit of aggression he'll be a great player


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Batch on Friday, February 1, 2019, 20:35:46
Knoyle ok after concussion.

Toumani a couple of weeks away. Going to be important powerhouse player, but going to be rusty.

Lancashire - calf injury- 10 days?


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Batch on Friday, February 1, 2019, 20:37:14
Said pryce and twine really needs game time to progress. Really complimentary of twine and says 10 minutes he and there is showing his progress


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Batch on Friday, February 1, 2019, 20:37:50
Question re training: we are still at Beaverbrook, obviously frozen right now


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Batch on Friday, February 1, 2019, 20:48:53
Questions re relationship with power (good) between power and fans (acknowledges you need the for success, will have to look at it when he has time) and agrees some of team needs to be perms and high turnover of players isn't good. That's why they've started recruitment now


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Batch on Friday, February 1, 2019, 20:50:03
Happy with both keepers. If contract situation is sorted he's happy to have them fight it out and will pick best keeper on form. Need to start getting clean sheets.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Batch on Friday, February 1, 2019, 20:51:08
Taking about previous experiences, Nigel Pearson, SGE, etc


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Batch on Friday, February 1, 2019, 20:52:01
Are the new signings going to get regular game time?

Not signed them not to get in squad!


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, February 1, 2019, 20:52:21
Jesus the standard of questions is a new low.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Batch on Friday, February 1, 2019, 20:55:03
Happy with 4-3-3 away .. does like 2 strikers though. Still experimenting at home, has a new formation to try tomorrow..

Probably made mistake brining doughty off last week, needs to find his most effective position.

Says v Crawley penalty aside the full backs didn't attack wings enough


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Batch on Friday, February 1, 2019, 20:56:20
He wants 20 outfield players, 3 keepers.

We have too many here right now, wants to draw on youth but can't really right now..


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Batch on Friday, February 1, 2019, 20:57:32
You can't beat playing men's football. Pryce will benefit from being in that situation - players will soon let him know if he's not pulling his weight.



Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Batch on Friday, February 1, 2019, 20:57:53
Pitman - I wish - too expensive


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: swindonmaniac on Friday, February 1, 2019, 20:58:42
He wants 20 outfield players, 3 keepers.

We have too many here right now, wants to draw on youth but can't really right now..
Thanks Batch, must admit I'd forgotten all about it. Sounds like I didn't miss any big revelations.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Batch on Friday, February 1, 2019, 20:58:45
Talks of wanting to get results to get the atmosphere and buns on seats .

First and foremost results, will look at other ways too


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: swindonmaniac on Friday, February 1, 2019, 21:00:16
Talks of wanting to get results to get the atmosphere and buns on seats .

First and foremost results, will look at other ways too
Cheaper tickets might help !!!.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Batch on Friday, February 1, 2019, 21:01:41
Re: budget where do we sit?
Don't know, knows some of the numbers from Mansfield's, Bury's and Lincoln's ... Are they having him on!

Hodgetts repeated powers talk of Accrington and not needing a big budget

Wellens says yeah but they had same team for 3 or 4 years and tweaked it. Goes back to what he was saying re squad turnover


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Batch on Friday, February 1, 2019, 21:02:49
And that's all folks.

I will say I was mega pissed off with him after Crawley, but tonight he's come across very well with common sense prevailing. I like his talk. Now walk


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Batch on Friday, February 1, 2019, 21:07:04
Oh and I paraphrased a lot, so if you can stand it:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p06zd6lb


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, February 1, 2019, 21:18:31
Wellens says yeah but they had same team for 3 or 4 years and tweaked it. Goes back to what he was saying re squad turnover

Bit worrying saying such stuff about Accy....as not really the case.

Here's my analysis of their squad towards the end of last season....

I looked at the Accy squad from the game when they beat us in Jan. To get a bit of an insight into how to do it. Of the lads who got on the park, 2 have been there 3 seasons... a couple of key players (no pun intended) Billy Kee and Sean McConville, both played most games this season. The defender Coneely, was on the bench.

Then 5 lads on their second year. 3 in their first year, then 3 loans.  All of them either journeymen, or from non league, the bench made up of similar, only Coneely any experience.

PB, today's Adver pinpoints that if he's here next season then he will need to move out quite a few.  It's what the Accy model sort of shows.... you need a couple of old hands, which in todays game is 3 years, a core of second season players who know the managers style and then get the missing ingredient provided by the newbies.

We could potentially do most of that but haven't got anyone of the Div 4 quality of Kee or McConville... it'll be interesting to see how good they are next home game.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Exiled Bob on Friday, February 1, 2019, 21:27:00
Are the new signings going to get regular game time?

Not signed them not to get in squad!
Or, as the fuckwit put it "is the new signings going to get regular game time?".

I imagine Wellens rolling his eyes, wondering what fuck he's doing at Swindon, at the dimwitedness of some of our fans. In particular the twat who  was desperate for him to join in the slagging off of Power.

I like Wellens. I thougt he came across really well (irritating cough aside). Very passionate and won't take shit from players who aren't putting the effort in.

Surprised our chief scout, Bamboo, didn't get a mention about the Sid negotiations though.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Exiled Bob on Friday, February 1, 2019, 21:30:26
Talks of wanting to get results to get the atmosphere and buns on seats .
Might tempt the fatties anyway......


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: donkey on Friday, February 1, 2019, 22:55:17
Or, as the fuckwit put it "is the new signings going to get regular game time?".

I imagine Wellens rolling his eyes, wondering what fuck he's doing at Swindon, at the dimwitedness of some of our fans. In particular the twat who  was desperate for him to join in the slagging off of Power.

I like Wellens. I thougt he came across really well (irritating cough aside). Very passionate and won't take shit from players who aren't putting the effort in.

Surprised our chief scout, Bamboo, didn't get a mention about the Sid negotiations though.

He should be aware that as soon as you start thinking like fans, you end up sitting with them. So I'm sure he'll be fine with our fans.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Saturday, February 2, 2019, 00:17:46
Re : game on/off. Nothing new added, the decision won't be made until tomorrow.

General updates, only got mobile so difficult. But loathed strangers (Rich) its tweeting
Cheers for the updates Batch.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: ronnie21 on Saturday, February 2, 2019, 10:21:18
I only caught the end of the broadcast but got to say what a dim witted load of fans they selected to ask questions, hand-picked by the twat in chief Hodgetts.  I did hear RW say he wanted the CG to be rocking before kick-off - could I suggest the Rocking Robin haka is despatched (pathetic) and the music played is a bit more mainstream and not the crap that the presenter likes.  As for the best in the west they hurl at us, laughable!!


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, February 2, 2019, 10:37:31
I only caught the end of the broadcast but got to say what a dim witted load of fans they selected to ask questions, hand-picked by the twat in chief Hodgetts.  I did hear RW say he wanted the CG to be rocking before kick-off - could I suggest the Rocking Robin haka is despatched (pathetic) and the music played is a bit more mainstream and not the crap that the presenter likes.  As for the best in the west they hurl at us, laughable!!

Yeah that Ďbest in the westí shite needs to be dropped. Statistically arenít we currently just about the worst in the west?

Also the Ďmake some noise for the Swindon boysí is pretty cringe. And since when did we stop playing wide men say just before kick off? (Or did I miss it?)


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: @mwooly63 on Saturday, February 2, 2019, 11:12:19
Yeah that Ďbest in the westí shite needs to be dropped. Statistically arenít we currently just about the worst in the west?

Also the Ďmake some noise for the Swindon boysí is pretty cringe. And since when did we stop playing wide men say just before kick off? (Or did I miss it?)

You missed it


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: RedRag on Saturday, February 2, 2019, 11:13:41
. And since when did we stop playing wide men say just before kick off? (Or did I miss it?)
Carrol backwards inside to McCourt....we rarely play wide men after kick off, that's for sure.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, February 2, 2019, 11:20:10
You missed it

Oh really?

I seem to daydream as I get older! Jesus wept!


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, February 2, 2019, 11:20:31
Carrol backwards inside to McCourt....we rarely play wide men after kick off, that's for sure.

Hah, fair point :)


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, February 2, 2019, 11:31:39
Thanks for those concise updates Batch, for all those of us that couldn't listen and can't be bothered to listen again :)


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, February 2, 2019, 11:34:08
And since when did we stop playing wide men say just before kick off? (Or did I miss it?)
Wellens doesn't currently favour the dual winger approach ;)


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, February 2, 2019, 11:39:03
Think if Wellens wanted to play wide men, he'd have gone for Akifenwa and McNulty in the window.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Batch on Saturday, February 2, 2019, 11:52:27
ok it was more Stacey Dooley and less Louis Theraux quality, but I guess BBC has to play the hand dealt them.

I got something out of it that I'd missed/wondered. his line is that TD isn't fit and that knoyle was a concussion concern.

also that he agrees high turnover every season isn't great and that signings have been made with next season in mind.
---------
Anyway I hope my quick notes didn't misrepresent his answers.

buns on seats is genius. power is fattening is up so he can charge us for 2 seats in the future


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, February 2, 2019, 11:57:42
ok it was more Stacey Dooley and less Louis Theraux quality, but I guess BBC has to play the hand dealt them.

I got something out of it that I'd missed/wondered. his line is that TD isn't fit and that knoyle was a concussion concern.

also that he agrees high turnover every season isn't great and that signings have been made with next season in mind.
---------
Anyway I hope my quick notes didn't misrepresent his answers.
You did fine mate, thanks again.

buns on seats is genius. power is fattening is up so he can charge us for 2 seats in the future
I like big buns and I cannot lie...


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: pauld on Saturday, February 2, 2019, 20:06:40
I only caught the end of the broadcast but got to say what a dim witted load of fans they selected to ask questions, hand-picked by the twat in chief Hodgetts. 
Touch of shooting the messenger? Maybe they just put on air the ones who rang in? Might not have been any selection going on? And if you didn't like what they had to say, it was always open to you to ring on and provide some much-needed intellectual ballast :)


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, February 2, 2019, 21:04:09
Maybe they just put on air the ones who rang in?

Madness!


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, February 2, 2019, 21:26:21
I'm far more concerned about Wellens' saying he doesn't like cheese.

Is that even legal?


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: ronnie21 on Saturday, February 2, 2019, 22:38:23
Touch of shooting the messenger? Maybe they just put on air the ones who rang in? Might not have been any selection going on? And if you didn't like what they had to say, it was always open to you to ring on and provide some much-needed intellectual ballast :)
They had some who phone in, some on twitter and some who e-mailed.  They tend to ring back the ones they want, and I was too late to ring sd I was oout trying to ferry some older people home through the snow -I must have missed you!!


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Crozzer on Sunday, February 3, 2019, 00:07:22
I'm far more concerned about Wellens' saying he doesn't like cheese.

Is that even legal?


A scientific study including a group who like cheese  and a group who do not was conducted in France in 2016.  The results were published online on the Frontiers in Human Neuroscience website.


"The researchers then observed that the ventral pallidum, a small structure usually activated in people who are hungry, was totally inactive while the smell and image of cheese was being presented to individuals with an aversion to cheese, whereas it was activated for all other food types. Even more surprisingly, the researchers observed that areas of the brain, the globus pallidus and the substantia nigra, which participate in the reward circuit (activated when we love something), were more involved in people who do not like cheese than in those who do. These structures, typically involved in processing reward, may therefore also be triggered in response to an aversive stimulus. To explain this dual nature, the researchers suggest that these regions include two types of neurons with complementary activity: one related to the rewarding aspect of a food, the other to its aversive nature."


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: suttonred on Sunday, February 3, 2019, 01:09:05
I'm far more concerned about Wellens' saying he doesn't like cheese.

Is that even legal?
Vegan (ish) ?


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, February 3, 2019, 09:44:56
They had some who phone in, some on twitter and some who e-mailed.  They tend to ring back the ones they want, and I was too late to ring sd I was oout trying to ferry some older people home through the snow -I must have missed you!!

Audrey(?) must have been lying then when he said his calls were just put through without being vetted whatsoever?


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: bennett on Sunday, February 3, 2019, 09:53:38
Vegan (ish) ?
Wow now, we don't lump that maniac with us


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, February 3, 2019, 12:43:19
Audrey(?) must have been lying then when he said his calls were just put through without being vetted whatsoever?
Can only state my experience. Iíve phoned in 3 times, twice they never asked what my question was and the other time I was in Power Out mode and venting and they still put me through.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, February 3, 2019, 12:44:16
I'm far more concerned about Wellens' saying he doesn't like cheese.
Wellens no longer has my full backing.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Crozzer on Sunday, February 3, 2019, 18:45:45
Wellens no longer has my full backing.

Based on the French research, even the most delicate Roquefort, the "King of Cheeses" expertly crafted from sheep's milk :shaun: is not going to change his mind,.......... unless it's on a pizza :chef:.


But, that begs the question, cheese on a pizza probably mozzarella-like processed cheeses and mozzarella variants, is still a form of cheese, but does that count. Is "Franken-Cheese" :footinmouth: a legitimate choice?


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: ronnie21 on Sunday, February 3, 2019, 19:52:47
Can only state my experience. Iíve phoned in 3 times, twice they never asked what my question was and the other time I was in Power Out mode and venting and they still put me through.
I have e-mailed in the past, got one acknowldegment that they may use it, but never did.  I do tend to ask the sort of question that Hodgetts SHOULD be asking, that may be the reason I am never chosen!


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Berniman on Monday, February 4, 2019, 06:48:29
What is all of this rhetoric against Hodgetts?  He's a radio presenter for god sake..  Why blame Hodgetts because he works for the BBC and they have the contract with the EFL..

I see the usual twitter army going for him as well.  It's come to a new low when we are blaming the local sports radio presenter for things that we feel are wrong with the club..


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: ibelieveinmrreeves on Monday, February 4, 2019, 08:48:15
Yes if we could all stick to blaming Power for everything wrong with the club, that would be great, thanks ;) .


Title: Re: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Oaksey Moonraker on Tuesday, February 5, 2019, 22:23:43
What is all of this rhetoric against Hodgetts?  He's a radio presenter for god sake..  Why blame Hodgetts because he works for the BBC and they have the contract with the EFL..

I see the usual twitter army going for him as well.  It's come to a new low when we are blaming the local sports radio presenter for things that we feel are wrong with the club..
Shaun Hodgetts has always kept a nice little sideline in hosting club events at the County Ground. I am sure he favours not upsetting the apple cart to keep those cosy club events going.

As Lee Power played for Norwich, Shaun is pretty close to a Wiltshire version of Alan Partridge. My favourite is when he interviews young supporters and asks 'Name, age, what school do you go to and no swearing you're live on the radio'.

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Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, February 6, 2019, 08:03:28
Shaun Hodgetts has always kept a nice little sideline in hosting club events at the County Ground. I am sure he favours not upsetting the apple cart to keep those cosy club events going.

As Lee Power played for Norwich, Shaun is pretty close to a Wiltshire version of Alan Partridge. My favourite is when he interviews young supporters and asks 'Name, age, what school do you go to and no swearing you're live on the radio'.

Sent from my HTC U11

Even so, I still don't get the angst.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, February 6, 2019, 08:40:19
The claims against Hodgetts have been shown to be demonstrably false time and time again. That doesn't matter though to some, though. Once a rumour has set in it's very difficult to shift. I liken it to how people believe misleading\false headlines. The same paper could come out the following day and say it was all false but the damage would already be done. People would still believe what was printed the previous day.

We live in a society where rumour and speculation take precedence over fact. Hodgetts just happens to be one of those that got caught up in it.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Frigby Daser on Wednesday, February 6, 2019, 09:45:30
Seems Iím in a minority here, but I love the fact heís been covering town for as long as he has (when did he start - early 90s, or even before then?). He loves the club - has dedicated a career to it -  and will be a hell of a lot better and more knowledgable than the [pick top 4 Premier League club] fan that one day replaces him.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, February 6, 2019, 10:36:10
The claims against Hodgetts have been shown to be demonstrably false time and time again. That doesn't matter though to some, though. Once a rumour has set in it's very difficult to shift. I liken it to how people believe misleading\false headlines. The same paper could come out the following day and say it was all false but the damage would already be done. People would still believe what was printed the previous day.

We live in a society where rumour and speculation take precedence over fact. Hodgetts just happens to be one of those that got caught up in it.

Demonstrably shown by our audrey the other day with Red Bull..


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, February 6, 2019, 10:37:40
Seems Iím in a minority here, but I love the fact heís been covering town for as long as he has (when did he start - early 90s, or even before then?). He loves the club - has dedicated a career to it -  and will be a hell of a lot better and more knowledgable than the [pick top 4 Premier League club] fan that one day replaces him.
I don't mind Shaun at all and yes he is a fan and a reporter and he must keep the club on his side somewhat so won't overly upset the apple cart.

Hes been commentating on games since 1983 when GWR used to cover matches.

Demonstrably shown by our audrey the other day with Red Bull..
Absolutely this. there was zero substrance whatsoever other than a fan rumour on twitter/facebook etc etc thats started that pile of shit off.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, February 6, 2019, 10:53:19
Seems Iím in a minority here, but I love the fact heís been covering town for as long as he has (when did he start - early 90s, or even before then?). He loves the club - has dedicated a career to it -  and will be a hell of a lot better and more knowledgable than the [pick top 4 Premier League club] fan that one day replaces him.
+1 I like Shaun, I think he does a good job. He's not Paxman but that's not what local radio news reporters do, much less sports reporters. But this idea that he's some kind of filter preventing fans from having their say is bollocks. Too many keyboard warriors fronting up on Facebook but won't pick up the phone and ask "the questions we demand answers to" themselves.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, February 6, 2019, 11:01:07
I think the story at Swansea City, just shows how demanding football fans are.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47137239

Swansea nearly went into non-league in 2003 playing at a dilapidated Vetch field. The change at that club since then is staggering. But now because they are 'struggling' in the Championship, their fans have more or less forced him out.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, February 6, 2019, 11:13:09
Too many keyboard warriors fronting up on Facebook all over the internet, but won't pick up the phone and ask "the questions we demand answers to" themselves.
Definately this, so many Billy Big Balls will shout their mouth off under the (fairly) anonymity of the internet yet don't have the balls to phone in and question themselves they just make excuses.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, February 6, 2019, 11:16:33
But now because they are 'struggling' in the Championship, their fans have more or less forced him out.
TBF I think he has himself admitted in his resgination statement that he's been acting as a front man for decisions made by the new American owners that he also didn't agree with. The discontent was more around a perceived "sell-out" of his role as a fans' representative in the boardroom than their league position per se.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, February 6, 2019, 11:20:30
TBF I think he has himself admitted in his resgination statement that he's been acting as a front man for decisions made by the new American owners that he also didn't agree with. The discontent was more around a perceived "sell-out" of his role as a fans' representative in the boardroom than their league position per se.

Fair enough, to be honest I don't know a lot about Swansea but I do know they have had things a lot worse.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, February 6, 2019, 11:36:07
TBF I think he has himself admitted in his resgination statement that he's been acting as a front man for decisions made by the new American owners that he also didn't agree with. The discontent was more around a perceived "sell-out" of his role as a fans' representative in the boardroom than their league position per se.

Going to be interesting to see what happens there now Jenkins has gone, its been a bubbling shitshow for a while.... I fear it may become the archetypal 'careful what you wish for'.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, February 6, 2019, 12:05:41
+1 I like Shaun, I think he does a good job. He's not Paxman but that's not what local radio news reporters do, much less sports reporters. But this idea that he's some kind of filter preventing fans from having their say is bollocks. Too many keyboard warriors fronting up on Facebook but won't pick up the phone and ask "the questions we demand answers to" themselves.

Can't get a punch in the face calling someone a twat from behind a keyboard. I'd love to transport some of the internet heroes back in time to the 80's or 90's. We'd soon see how their "important" opinions went then.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, February 6, 2019, 12:25:51
Can't get a punch in the face calling someone a twat from behind a keyboard.

I don't know, somebody's going to catch up with Kostiuk one day. I look forward to seeing the video of him online begging for forgiveness and claiming he was only joking.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, February 6, 2019, 12:40:12
I don't know, somebody's going to catch up with Kostiuk one day. I look forward to seeing the video of him online begging for forgiveness and claiming he was only joking.

Its all about the bantz though isn't it....


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: theakston2k on Wednesday, February 6, 2019, 13:12:29
I don't know, somebody's going to catch up with Kostiuk one day. I look forward to seeing the video of him online begging for forgiveness and claiming he was only joking.
Think he's landlord at the Brunel in Chippenham, perhaps Power will go there for a drink one evening.


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, February 6, 2019, 14:22:05
Fair enough, to be honest I don't know a lot about Swansea but I do know they have had things a lot worse.
Yes you're absolutely right there. I was just being a bit of a pedant tbh :)


Title: Re: Fans phone in, Friday 6pm
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, February 6, 2019, 14:56:03
Yes you're absolutely right there. I was just being a bit of a pedant tbh :)

As is your TEF right :)