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Title: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Saturday, October 9, 2021, 21:49:36
So from what I have gathered, Tuesdayís game is part of a publicity tournament for papa Johnís.  So often sides play back ups to avoid injury.   I can understand that BUT with the momentum STFC has right now wouldnít it be good to play the team to continue their growth and communication?   And besides I have heard u win like $10,000 if u win a game.  That is party money for team morale!!!!!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Saturday, October 9, 2021, 22:50:10
WTF???  Did I say something wrong?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Saturday, October 9, 2021, 23:09:22
Everyone is in bed!

Think that Garner will play those who came in today in order to see if they can repeat today. I suspect several of the subs will come in - East, Dabre, Baudry and Parsons


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Saturday, October 9, 2021, 23:15:26
Everyone is in bed!

Think that Garner will play those who came in today in order to see if they can repeat today. I suspect several of the subs will come in - East, Dabre, Baudry and Parsons

Not everyone.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Saturday, October 9, 2021, 23:47:01
WTF???  Did I say something wrong?

The football fan of England would rather spit on your grave than consider this an actual game.  It's not you, it's me, so she said.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, October 10, 2021, 07:58:38
I never knew Jordan Garrick had joined Plymouth.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: swindonmaniac on Sunday, October 10, 2021, 09:04:31
Papa John's tournament ??,  I'd sooner stick wasps up my arse than waste my time watching that shite worthless, premier league interfering tournament.  Wembley final still wouldn't make me change my mind.    :smugfu: :smugfu:.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: donkey on Sunday, October 10, 2021, 09:35:01
Papa John's tournament ??,  I'd sooner stick wasps up my are than waste my time watching that shite worthless, premier league interfering tournament.  Wembley final still wouldn't make me change my mind.    :smugfu: :smugfu:.

I agree with you (apart from the wasp bit).


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: swindonmaniac on Sunday, October 10, 2021, 10:14:34
 :D :D


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, October 10, 2021, 10:24:02
I never knew Jordan Garrick had joined Plymouth.
He turned down a loan to us in preference to Plymouth in August, their fans are not overly keen on him yet hes made little or no impact when he has played or come off the bench. Until yesterday when playing RWB he was MoM apparently.

As for the game, I don't care about the result but Garner obviously does (he has said so in the past) and its a chance to see how our fringe players and youngsters perform and its included in the iFollow season pass so I will be watching.

They played an almost entire youth/reserve side last game and lost at Newport 2-0 so they dont care it seems.

I never realised they are top of L1 after yesterdays win too.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Sunday, October 10, 2021, 10:28:12
Papa John's tournament ??,  I'd sooner stick wasps up my arse than waste my time watching that shite worthless, premier league interfering tournament.  Wembley final still wouldn't make me change my mind.    :smugfu: :smugfu:.

Ohh do I like this post.
👍🙌


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Monday, October 11, 2021, 22:55:41
Everyone is in bed!

Think that Garner will play those who came in today in order to see if they can repeat today. I suspect several of the subs will come in - East, Dabre, Baudry and Parsons

i will admit i had consumed a bit of gin when i posted this and forgot the time difference ......
i guess i still need to learn the difference between types of games, to me a match is a match...why wouldn't coming out
and beating the piss out of a L1 top team prove somethings? 


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Crispy on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 06:49:18
i will admit i had consumed a bit of gin when i posted this and forgot the time difference ......
i guess i still need to learn the difference between types of games, to me a match is a match...why wouldn't coming out
and beating the piss out of a L1 top team prove somethings? 

Because the competition is gateway to league football for Premier League Reserve & B teams. It's an absolute farce and boycotted by the majority of lower league fans, with the exception of a few who seem to like to take 40k to Wembley to justify it all - I'm looking at you Portsmouth  :smugfu:


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 06:49:26
i will admit i had consumed a bit of gin when i posted this and forgot the time difference ......
i guess i still need to learn the difference between types of games, to me a match is a match...why wouldn't coming out
and beating the piss out of a L1 top team prove somethings?  
Because the L1 top team will be made up of reserve players. The other top teams field academy sides. Its like watching the Huskers practice squad play against SMU (first team I could think of) practice squad - Now if it was against the Aggies, things may have been different! (Go gig 'em!   :spoton:  :toocool:)


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 07:00:21
Iím looking forward to seeing those players who are on the fringes. Can Dabre repeat his good performance against Arsenal. Aguiar and East, Harry Parsons, Baudry and Lyden coming back from long term injuries. Is Mitchell Lawson a viable alternative if/when Simpson is out.

Important game, I reckon. Not too bothered about the result but am about the performance of individuals.

Our first choice 15/16 are fine, but I canít see those will get through the whole season without injury/suspensions.

Game time, even in this competition, is vital.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 07:20:54
Iím looking forward to seeing those players who are on the fringes. Can Dabre repeat his good performance against Arsenal. Aguiar and East, Harry Parsons, Baudry and Lyden coming back from long term injuries. Is Mitchell Lawson a viable alternative if/when Simpson is out.

Important game, I reckon. Not too bothered about the result but am about the performance of individuals.

Our first choice 15/16 are fine, but I canít see those will get through the whole season without injury/suspensions.

Game time, even in this competition, is vital.
Agree - A training session. (I'll be watching)


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: normy on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 09:20:07
Agree - A training session. (I'll be watching)

So will I


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 09:30:47
Hope the Cowmeadow get a run out!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 10:21:55
So will I
+1

Its still a first team fixture against (mostly) 1st team players, its good money for the club if we win, the same amount as we got from Sky for a fucking live TV game!

Its a chance to run the eye over the fringe players as we have no competitive reserve league any more.

Also winnings breeds confidence.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 10:22:29
Hope the Cowmeadow get a run out!
He has impressed me when I have seen him play, about 5 or 6 times previously to go with his great name!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 11:32:35
I got an email yesterday offering me a discount on 2 large Papa Johnís pizza for just under a tenner - proper price nearly £33.

Wtf!

2 Large Pizzas At Papa John's For £9.99 (norm £32.98)

Papa Johns Pizza DealIf you wanted a takeaway, this is a very good deal to get you 2 large pizzas.

This is quite an unusual deal, in the sense that you have to buy it through Wowcher.

There are only 49 locations involved in the deal, so make sure you check your local is available before buying.

Once you've bought the deal, you can enter a code on the Papa Johns website when ordering.

Find out more information, and to get the deal, head over to Wowcher.

The Catch: Only valid at 49 stores

Expiry: While Stocks Last


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: THE FLASH on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 11:33:15
Used to go all the time to these games and with Plymouth just over the border from where my brother lives, i would of gone to this one, probably with the nephew.

Premiership B Teams was the thin end of the wedge for me and i havent been since.

Wont go even if its the final, happy to watch that on TV in the pub.

If the premiership want competitive B Team fixtures, bring back the combination league, they have the money to do it.

Anyway, no injuries tonight please.



Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 11:43:40
I got an email yesterday offering me a discount on 2 large Papa Johnís pizza for just under a tenner - proper price nearly £33.

Wtf!

2 Large Pizzas At Papa John's For £9.99 (norm £32.98)

Papa Johns Pizza DealIf you wanted a takeaway, this is a very good deal to get you 2 large pizzas.

This is quite an unusual deal, in the sense that you have to buy it through Wowcher.

There are only 49 locations involved in the deal, so make sure you check your local is available before buying.

Once you've bought the deal, you can enter a code on the Papa Johns website when ordering.

Find out more information, and to get the deal, head over to Wowcher.

The Catch: Only valid at 49 stores

Expiry: While Stocks Last

To be fair, the Melksham Papa Johns has been £9.99 for a extra large pizza when collected for a month of so now.
Itís superb on a hangover!!

They shit all over Dominoís!!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 11:45:24
For those that are interested about team selections.

Player rules for the game - Swindon must start with at least four outfield first teamers.

A first-team player is defined as someone who starts either of the matches directly before or after the EFL Trophy fixture v Plymouth, a player that has started 40 or more senior matches during their entire career or a player who has started at least the 10th-most matches for the club that season.

Any EFL club that fails to meet this requirement is fined up to £5,000.

So that means Lyden, Baudrey, Iandolo and Ward would cover that rule.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 11:47:45
the Muff preview FWIW.

Quote
Argyle take on Swindon Town in the second of their Papa Johnís Trophy fixtures on Tuesday night.

The Greens lost their opening game of the competition, away to Newport County AFC, but havenít tasted defeat since.

A number of youngsters were handed game time in the loss, with five players given their debuts by Ryan Lowe.

One of those was 15-year-old Freddie Issaka, who became Argyleís youngest ever player when he came on as a second half substitute.

Since that game, Argyle have won four and drawn three in Sky Bet League One and currently sit top of the table.

As for Swindon, they won their opening game of the tournament, beating Arsenal under-21s 2-1 at the County Ground.

Since being relegated to Sky Bet League Two last season, they have been in decent form and lie third in the division.

They have won their last two matches, including a 2-0 triumph over neighbours and leaders Forest Green Rovers on Saturday.

Harry McKirdy and Tyreece Simpson scored for the Robins, who are currently on a four-match unbeaten run.

The form the Wiltshire side are on means that Tuesday nightís will a tough one for the Pilgrims and Ryan Lowe knows his side will have to be at their best.

He said, ďTheyíre a good team, they beat Forest Green on the weekend, and we will have to respect them.

ďThey were a good team in our league last season and got relegated for whatever reason but for us we have to make sure we put a plan together for them.

ďWe are expecting a really tough game and itís one that we want to win.Ē

Argyle have played Swindon four times previously in the EFL Trophy, most recently in October 2019 when Zak Rudden, Joel Grant and Joe Riley gave the Greens a 3-0 win.

Loweís side also did the double over Swindon in the league last season, beating them 4-2 at Home Park and 2-0 at the County Ground.

TEAM NEWS

Ryan Lowe is expected to make changes for the game, which kicks off at 7pm. Luke Jephcott and Brendan Galloway are still away with their international teams, while Niall Ennis and James Bolton are out injured.

Danny Mayor came on as a substitute in the win over Burton Albion on Saturday and is expected to play a part while Callum Burton is likely to come in for Mike Cooper in goal.

Swindon also have players away on international duty. Anthony Grant is with the Jamaican squad playing World Cup qualifiers, while Jojo Wollacott is away with Ghana.

Jonny Williams is in action for Wales and Kaine Kesler-Hayden is with the England under-20 squad.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 11:51:50
For those that are interested about team selections.

Player rules for the game - Swindon must start with at least four outfield first teamers.

A first-team player is defined as someone who starts either of the matches directly before or after the EFL Trophy fixture v Plymouth, a player that has started 40 or more senior matches during their entire career or a player who has started at least the 10th-most matches for the club that season.

Any EFL club that fails to meet this requirement is fined up to £5,000.

So that means Lyden, Baudrey, Iandolo and Ward would cover that rule.

I assume outfield doesn't include goalkeepers so Ward wouldn't be included JJ?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 11:53:09
Ryan Lowe thought we were a good team last season. Fuck me!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 11:54:56
I assume outfield doesn't include goalkeepers so Ward wouldn't be included JJ?
It does sound like that but I was told it was actually all players, not sure who to believe as that was lifted from the pasty munchers forum.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 12:01:26
It does sound like that but I was told it was actually all players, not sure who to believe as that was lifted from the pasty munchers forum.

The wording is a little confusing isn't it.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 12:09:26
I assume outfield doesn't include goalkeepers so Ward wouldn't be included JJ?

What if Ward played upfront?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 12:11:22
Went to the game at their place in 2014.
Took a wrong turn and ended up sat with the home fans.

Recall that Jack Stephens missed a sitter at the end to complete a comeback from 3 down at half time.
Gladwin scored that night as well.
The lesser spotted Jack Barthram started at RWB, hooked after 55 mins.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 12:19:04
What if Ward played upfront?

I wouldn't be averse to it in this tournament!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: THE FLASH on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 12:33:21
Ryan Lowe thought we were a good team last season. Fuck me!

A lifetime ban from football is in order for that comment.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 12:36:15
A lifetime ban from football is in order for that comment.
Ryan Lowe after the match.

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BOTk5NzQwOTU4OF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwMTk3MTk0._V1_UY264_CR3,0,178,264_AL_.jpg)


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: THE FLASH on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 12:37:50
Ryan Lowe after the match.

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BOTk5NzQwOTU4OF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwMTk3MTk0._V1_UY264_CR3,0,178,264_AL_.jpg)

All he could hear was Sheridactyl swearing! :)


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 12:43:47
Was that Ďtheí Brett Pitman rant? Or was that Pompey?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 12:46:54
Was that Ďtheí Brett Pitman rant? Or was that Pompey?
Pompey away.


Title: Re: Papa John’s Tournament???
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 15:48:08
And for those of you watching in black and white kick off is at 7 pm tonight.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 17:19:40
Lyden should get a run out tonight.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 17:27:41
Lyden should get a run out tonight.
Definately and Baudry, I think he will go with...

Ward, Odimayo, Iandolo, Baudry, Mitchell-Lawson, Lyden, Hunt, East, Aguiar, Parsons, Dabre.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 17:52:24
Ward, Odimayo, Crichlow, Baudry (C), Lyden, Mitchell-Lawson, Hunt, East, Aguiar, Parsons, Dabre.

SUBS | Mildenhall, Iandolo, McKirdy, Cowmeadow, Francis, Minturn, Winchcombe.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 17:53:08
Almost called it with just Crich in for Iandolo from my guess.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 17:53:22
Interesting to see Mildy on the bench!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:00:46
If Muff treat this as some kind of training session weíll piss it. Weíre the kings of that!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:06:03
If Muff treat this as some kind of training session weíll piss it. Weíre the kings of that!
They have ex Town targets Agard and Mayor starting.

TBF they have probably more league appearances between their starting line up than we do! they are taking this one more seriously than the away game at Newport.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:10:02
Couple of those youths on the bench Iíve never heard of.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:12:37
Mildenhall on the bench! Never wanted an early red more than I do now.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:15:29
Couple of those youths on the bench Iíve never heard of.
The only one I am unfamiliar with is Winchcombe, the rest have been on the bench or played in friendlies for us before.
Callum Winchcombe is a left footed attacker aged just 17 who has a thunderous left foot on him apparently who we signed from Pro-Cision football academy.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:16:26
Mildenhall on the bench! Never wanted an early red more than I do now.
I am in 2 minds, another great performance and clean sheet from Ward would give Garner even more of a headache and build Wards confidence no end.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:26:16
Hopefully Plymouth will turn up the floodlights in time for the game, looks like they forgot to put their 50p into the meter.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:26:34
Is this a similar line up to the Arsenal game? Apart from Dabre and Aguiar I canít remember who else played.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:32:12
Is this a similar line up to the Arsenal game? Apart from Dabre and Aguiar I canít remember who else played.
Its almost identical just a couple of changes.

That was.

Quote
Ward, Odimayo, Iandolo (C), Crichlow, Mitchell-Lawson, Gilbert, Hunt, East, Aguiar, Parsons, Dabre.

SUBS | Wollacott, Conroy, Simpson, Payne, Gordon, Cowmeadow, Francis.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:52:08
OH SHIT!!! Playing Sirus before the game....just like a Husker game....


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:55:34
Dabre playing LWB/LW whereas last game he played RW, versatile.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:58:31
The brilliant Dan Cole on Twitter has just said itís 7465 days since Mildenhall last played for Swindon.
.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:59:06
Is the left back the same player that played last saturday in that spot?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:59:59
Is the left back the same player that played last saturday in that spot?
No, the left back has only played once before, he played right wing for the Arsenal game.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:00:16
He needed to go 1v1 and challenge the defender


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:00:23
JML's touch at times is very poor, he goes to ground far too easily and eagerly.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:00:52
Twice now Mitchell-Lawson weakly beaten by his defender.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:02:12
Plymouth score but its well offside.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:03:55
Good 30 yarder from East thats saved.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:05:36
nice play


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:05:45
Parsons misses a decent chance after a great run from East to Lyden, they ar elinking up well so far.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:08:06
JML really should have got a shot in after beating his man in the box but he loses it weakly.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:08:32
JMLís not clicking yet. Playing on his own.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:09:19
Attackers need to test the keeper....take a few quick shots and see what skill he has.  if nothing else, it will force the defense to step up to attacker quicker and opening up passing lanes


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:10:31
Plymouths Camara looks a bit like crazy legs crane.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:11:21
1-0 Parsons or an OG.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:12:07
Good passing into the area. Got lucky with the shot.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:12:08
Very tight angle was going in anyway but the defender hits it into his own net from 1 yard.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:12:23
OG.

did him with the eyes :)


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Crackity Jones on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:12:43
A first half goal. I assume we don't count it given its the efl trophy


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:12:48
The goal was definately deserved, we have had the much better of the play so far.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:13:33
Very tight angle was going in anyway but the defender hits it into his own net from 1 yard.

Do you think Parsonsí shot was good enough to go in?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:15:18
Do you think Parsonsí shot was good enough to go in?
It had the power and was heading for the goal for sure, not sure if it would have gone as there was another defender close but it looked like it may.

Corner to Town.

1-1


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:16:36
Ward could have done better from that toe poke from Agard.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:16:45
Bugger!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:16:53
Pretty routine equaliser getting in front of - yes - Baudry.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:17:06
Plymouths 2nd attack, thats the difference between L1 and L2.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:17:44
Pretty routine equaliser getting in front of - yes - Baudry.
Yes Baudry is a little behind Agard as per norm.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:17:53
pah, bring on mildy


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:18:47
pah, bring on mildy
One ball...hes only got 1 ball....


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:19:02
pah, bring on mildy

For Baudry.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:19:17
Dabre is a proper handful, like a little Tasmanian devil.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:19:29
I like the look of Dabre!



Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:20:51
Baudry yellow


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:21:06
Yellow for Baudry so any more silly challenges like that and he will go off anyway with a red.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:22:21
Agiuar, Lyden and East all playing quite well I think in the middle.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:24:37
Town were definately the better side until Plymouth scored but its been mostly Plymouth since then.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:25:30
Baudry looking way off the pace so far.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:26:10
Baudry looking way off the pace so far.

Was going to say he looks like he may be done at this level.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:28:18
Was going to say he looks like he may be done at this level.

He was already dreadful last year, irrespective of the level.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:29:15
Was going to say he looks like he may be done at this level.
I think you are right, I hope this is his last venture in our frst team.

Agard misses an absolute sitter.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:32:40
Baudry did well there.. recovering after letting Agard in.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:32:41
Iíll give him some credit there, though it didnít involve running.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:33:29
Iíll give him some credit there, though it didnít involve running.
Absolutely, decent tackle.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:34:33
Fantastic save by Ward from Mayors shot.

Similar to his save on Saturday from the free kick.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:34:43
Great save by Ward


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:35:30
I'm not sure Baudry's issue is the usual one of the legs going, I think his reaction speed has gone.  He's a second or two behind doing what he should be.  The goal was a good example, he'd tracked the run well enough but hadn't reacted in time to the cross itself to get anything goal side of Agard.  He was also slow in stepping up a minute or two back, Crichlow was gesturing what the rets were trying to do.  It's similar to the earlier part of last season where he looked like a player who was rusty, but he can't seem to shake that off.  The game is just moving faster than his brain.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:35:37
so if these players are 2nd teamers or younger players...do they have subs to bring on ?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:35:38
Lots of slack passing at the back from us last 5 mins.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:36:02
Another good low save by Ward from Mayor.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:36:37
JML off the pace again.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:37:24
JML off the pace again.
JML and Parsons have both been off the pace tonight even though Parsons had a huge hand in the goal thats all he has done so far.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:37:36
so if these players are 2nd teamers or younger players...do they have subs to bring on ?

Most of our subs are also younger players.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:38:04
I'm not sure Baudry's issue is the usual one of the legs going, I think his reaction speed has gone.  He's a second or two behind doing what he should be.  The goal was a good example, he'd tracked the run well enough but hadn't reacted in time to the cross itself to get anything goal side of Agard.  He was also slow in stepping up a minute or two back, Crichlow was gesturing what the rets were trying to do.  It's similar to the earlier part of last season where he looked like a player who was rusty, but he can't seem to shake that off.  The game is just moving faster than his brain.
Is that the slowness of thought that we have seen from the likes of Gladwin and co who were regaining fitness and were rusty?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:38:38
Ward misses that cross but luckily it went wide of the player.

HT 1-1

Lyden my MoM so far followed by Dabre probably.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:39:06
meh. ok first 20, downhill since .

Hunt pick of our players for me


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:39:51
HT 1-1 Couldn't come soon enough.

Started brightly and we're all over Plymouth. Once Plymouth scored we looked a little deflated and then seemed to tire in the last 15 mins


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:40:10
Is that the slowness of thought that we have seen from the likes of Gladwin and co who were regaining fitness and were rusty?

Yes and no, I am not sure Baudry has anywhere to go.  I think two seasons running suggests this just may be the beginning of the end of his career.  Such a drop off from the first season with us.  Gladwin is gradually improving and was not a speed of thought issue.  I think his was physical, he looks like the sort of player that needs a lot of "winding-up" to get to full speed.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:40:14
Is that the slowness of thought that we have seen from the likes of Gladwin and co who were regaining fitness and were rusty?

I think weíre past that with Baudry. I canít remember him having a half-decent game in 15+ months.


Title: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:40:42
Quote
I'm not sure Baudry's issue is the usual one of the legs going, .
could be.

he's also barely played for quite some time.

edit: I see you've addressed that point above


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:41:14
Parsons also looked a bit cream crackered at the end of that half, not the first time.  Looks quite bright but seems very short of stamina.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:42:03
Enjoyable half. Lucky to still be 1-1. Like the look of East, Dabre and flashes of Aguiar. Mitchell Lawson doesnít seem to offer much. Lyden and Hunt pretty good. More good saves from Ward.

We seem very easy to get at.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Frigby Daser on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:42:34
Yes and no, I am not sure Baudry has anywhere to go.  I think two seasons running suggests this just may be the beginning of the end of his career.  Such a drop off from the first season with us.  Gladwin is gradually improving and was not a speed of thought issue.  I think his was physical, he looks like the sort of player that needs a lot of "winding-up" to get to full speed.

Yes and no, I am not sure Baudry has anywhere to go.  I think two seasons running suggests this just may be the beginning of the end of his career.  Such a drop off from the first season with us.  Gladwin is gradually improving and was not a speed of thought issue.  I think his was physical, he looks like the sort of player that needs a lot of "winding-up" to get to full speed.

Centre backs may be needed in January. Weíve done well to keep the first choice back three fit, but they need competition and back up. Iandolo could drop in, so could Grant, but Iím not sure we even have youth players who can come in there so we (otherwise, theyíd presumably be playing tonight).


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:43:42
Enjoyable half. Lucky to still be 1-1. Like the look of East, Dabre and flashes of Aguiar. Mitchell Lawson doesnít seem to offer much. Lyden and Hunt pretty good. More good saves from Ward.

We seem very easy to get at.
All of that.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:44:22
To be fair to Baudry, I think the Plymouth front players are more like what he faced last season and there would be plenty of carthorses at our level that he could probably handle, but not for much longer.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: normy on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:46:25
An attractive half and we're still in it.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:48:31
Too many of ours were wasteful - Odimayo, Lyden - off the pace - Baudry, JML - or marginal - Dabre, Parsons.

Hunt and East ok, but not clicking as a team since the first 15. Not that surprising or concerning in the circumstances, but youíd like to see more claims for a first team place.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:48:41
Something to work on with Dabre, but he does have a hint of the McNamee about him.

East looks comfortable enough, as does Lyden and the latter has match fitness to come yet.

Aguiar has potential but is a bit whispy - he floats in an out of the game too easily for my liking.  Again, something to work with and develop though.

Parsons is clearly a level below Simpson, which means that would be my priority for any strengthening we can manage in January.

Good enough half all things considered.  They are weaker than their first team, but so are we, by a margin.  You can see the impact of Garner because the football is the same regardless of the players.  Shows his coaching skills, still skeptical about his long term career as a Manager.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:55:54
Mayor gone off, he was probably their biggest threat 1st half.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:03:30
Bright enough start again.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:07:17
Bright enough start again.
It is.

I think we also need to take into consideration....

Plymouth have a very experienced team tonight, they have a striker playing who has scored over 100 1st team goals.
Plymouth are top of league 1.
This performance so far is better than under Wellens last season at Home Park.
And this is 1 million times better than anything under Shieridactyl.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:07:33
Great challenge Odimayo on his own.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:09:29
Interesting challenge from Dabre in the box there! could have gone either way.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:09:54
Dabre caught out of position and lucky not to give away a penalty


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:11:51
Great run and shot from Aguair, well saved.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:11:55
Nice feet Aguiar.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:12:29
McKirdy, Cowmeadow and one other coming on

Agular mazy run and shot beaten wide


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:13:47
Odimayo injured


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:13:51
Cowmeadow and McKirdy come on for Odimayo and Hunt.

Garrick comes on for Muff.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:14:18
Iandolo on for Lyden.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:14:47
Cowmeadow and McKirdy come on for Odimayo and Hunt.

Garrick comes on for Muff.
What position was 'Muff' playing?

PS Iandolo on too


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:15:13
Cowmeadow wins a corner for Town with a deflected shot.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:15:45
Cowmeadow's shot was grazed wide, sorry!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:16:20
Would love a goal for Moo.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:18:08
I bet Dabre is superb at 5 a-side


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:18:29
It would have been good if it landed udder the bar.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:18:47
Would love a goal for Moo.
And an udder one too!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:19:10
It would have been good if it landed udder the bar.
Milking it now!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:20:32
Milking it now!
You really think you are amoosing dont you? :D


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:21:47
And an udder one too!
I am suffering from deja moo.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:23:12
I am suffering from deja moo.
A pat on the back for that!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:23:51
Iandolo with a great long run with the ball but his final pass was really poor.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:24:17
Iandolo with a great long run with the ball but his final pass was really poor.

Which has been a bit of a pattern with him in recent times.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:24:53
2-1 JML


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:25:08
Very good goal from JML 2-1.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:25:17
Great throw from Ward. Great run from JML.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:25:41
Super finish low down from an angle. Assist from Ward!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:26:01
Great throw from Ward. Great run from JML.

Proper old skool keeping distribution that one


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:26:06
Great throw from Ward. Great run from JML.
Drop him for Wollacott?😎


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:26:31
Dabre has large elements of McKirdy about him, hes something very different.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:27:12
Dabre has large elements of McKirdy about him, hes somethign very different.
Speed and quick feet


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:27:38
Speed and quick feet
And tight close control, just needs to work on his final ball more.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:27:54
Has McKirdy had a touch yet?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:28:31
Dabre has large elements of McKirdy about him, hes something very different.

It's far too raw though - he is playing almost entirely on instinct mixed with good ball skills and pace.  I am not sure he has much idea how to play football though - if we can coach that into him he could be a real talent.  Great ide to throw him on for 10 minutes when chasing a game though - nobody has any idea what will happen.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:29:01
Must admit that I thought JML had lost control of the ball and lost the opportunity.

He's had 3 more runs since! Come to life! Or we have just noticed he's there.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:29:44
Garrick still has a poor touch a lot of the time I see.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:30:02
Must admit that I thought JML had lost control of the ball and lost the opportunity.

He's had 3 more runs since! Come to life! Or we have just noticed he's there.

I think he is playing further up as a starting position, he's taken the role Parsons was filling, I think.  He has certainly been on the shoulder a lot more this half and looked a pest.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:30:59
Has McKirdy had a touch yet?
He has now....gave away a throw in


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:31:32
He has now....gave away a throw in

Which he promptly claimed.  :D


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:31:47
It's far too raw though - he is playing almost entirely on instinct mixed with good ball skills and pace.  I am not sure he has much idea how to play football though - if we can coach that into him he could be a real talent.  Great ide to throw him on for 10 minutes when chasing a game though - nobody has any idea what will happen.
Oh I agree, he looks eager to please but not always sure what to do when he gets in good positions, very very raw but he does have potential and he will get the crowd going as McKirdy does if he came off the bench in the league at home especially for the last 10 mins of a game we are winning easily.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:32:29
Great shot from McKirdy from 25 yards curled onto the post.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:32:34
Blimey. Thatís a McKirdy moment.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:33:00
McKirdy!!! What a shot!!! Smacks the post with a curler from 30 yards!!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:33:10
That McKirdy strike was not just superb, he saw it as soon as he got the ball and was tempted to hit it first time but took a touch first then decided to do it again.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:34:12
That McKirdy strike was not just superb, he saw it as soon as he got the ball and was tempted to hit it first time but took a touch first then decided to do it again.
Yeah he looked up and considered hitting it before he actually did hit it, he knew exactly what he was doing.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:34:27
That McKirdy strike was not just superb, he saw it as soon as he got the ball and was tempted to hit it first time but took a touch first then decided to do it again.
Thought the same.

I so hope we can sign him for longer! Worth paying the admission fee to watch every time


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:34:53
3-1 McKirdy.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:35:05
3-1 McKirdy


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:35:16
Superb move. Crichlowís run was superb.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:35:24
I tell thee what, we have looked quite good this half regardless of the game, opposition or our players.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:35:31
What a fucking run from Crich must be 50 yards then a great pass to JML who crossed to McKirdy to score from 4 yards.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:36:25
Critchlow Strom run through the middle. Lays in JML down the left. JML puts it to an unmarked McKirdy in the middle of the 6 yard box. McKirdy side foots it in


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:36:37
Weíve ended up absolutely ruling this half. Very encouraging.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:37:29
Weíve ended up absolutely ruling this half. Very encouraging.
Against the L1 leaders who have a lot of first teamers playing tonight, very impressive.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:38:09
So impressive the type of football we are playing this year.

Very much enjoying this.

And the best thing is that you can see where each of the player can (and are likely) to improve.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:39:11
Cowmeadow hoofs it out


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Frigby Daser on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:40:04
So impressive the type of football we are playing this year.

Very much enjoying this.

And the best thing is that you can see where each of the player can (and are likely) to improve.

The opposite of what we were saying a month ago! Credit where it is due.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:40:48
The opposite of what we were saying a month ago! Credit where it is due.
Yep. Totally.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:40:57
Cowmeadow got scythed down there


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Super Hans on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:42:02
Pizza Cup or not you can't beat winning matches and playing well. I'm impressed.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:42:26
McKirdy is a thing of beauty at times


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:42:35
What a half for Mitchell Lawson! Love Dabre. East could play in the first XI no bother.

Aguiar is very skilful. Fuck me, we ainít half bad. Again, a distinct lack of pointless tippy tappy.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:42:41
Outch!

Assault on McKirdy


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:44:45
Nearly gave a goal away there


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:45:16
Mickey Mouse cup or not thats 3 wins in a row.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:47:29
Away wins, too.


Title: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:48:11
jml certainly grew into it.

that curler from mckirdy.. bloody hell.  so unlucky

enjoyed the second half despite the competition


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Super Hans on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:50:00
3 away games 8 scored 2 conceded.

Hopefully we can become as free scoring at home now.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: normy on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:50:39
Very enjoyable second half, several very good performances


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: brocklesby red on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:51:03
Well that was very enjoyable, JML and Critchlow were immense and McKirdy had a great cameo. All helps with confidence and shows weíve got plenty of cover through the squad


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:51:43
Good game that.

Ward did well and a great throw for the second goal.  Nice to have two good keepers.

Baudry is going to be risky against any teams with competent forwards - the second half suggests he may survive against lesser players though.

Dabre is a box of tricks - nobody probably knows how to use them yet, but worth keeping an eye on.

Mitchell-Lawson showed he can be a pain the backside if played in the right position.  I don't know that you can play him as a lone striker, but with someone else occupying people near him, he was a real danger in the second half playing on the last shoulder.

East could easily step into the first team and Lyden looked goo enough with fitness to come (hopefully).

Overall, a lot of promise.  Some rawness about the team tonight, but that is to be expected.  Iandolo still worries me in defence and we could do with another striking option with some presence/box instinct.  Overall, we are in pretty good shape considering the past year.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:54:25
Ended up winning convincingly. A few still some way off the first team - Dabre, Parsons - but Cowmeadow and Aguiar were encouraging in spells, JML much better second half, and Iíd put East ahead of Lyden on this showing. McKirdy is having a ball at the moment. Weíre getting up a head of (GWR) steam.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:59:12
I think I'd find it difficult to pick a MotM there. Thought it was a good team performance.

Energetic start then head dropped when we conceded. Confidence built after a couple of saves by Ward and a HT pep talk. Improved again in the second half and then looked awesome after the substitutions.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: cheltred69 on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 21:02:38
92nd minute winner for Arsenal kids means weíre not yet through to next round.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 21:02:53
Plymouth fans getting their excuses in

ĎNothing competition. Not bothered. Run out for the youngsters.í Playing against seasoned pros was my favourite!

Letís hope they pick themselves up for the weekend trip to the piss stains.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 21:05:44
Scott Lindsey:
- Want to create a winning environment
- Got minutes into players who haven't played much
- Chance to see them from a coaching perspective
- Played against a stronger team than we thought we'd face
- Played good football at a good intensity
- Spoke about making runs behind them at half time
- Great ball, run and finish
- Practice every eventuality in training. Try to teach how to work out teams and problem solve
- JML did what he's good at. Good pace and runs in behind. In first half we came too deep
- McKirdy: Exciting and makes things happen. Works hard. Please with him
- Really strong squad including younger players.
- There will be moments when we need these players
- Coming up a strong opposition is good
- Dabre is more of a winger than wing back. Can be done if you balance it up properly
- Dabre up against 200-300 game experience player did well
- Cowmeadow: Good to bring academy players in. Cowmeadow has done well in training
- Odimayo felt his hamstring a little
- Wollacot: No surprise he was in the Ghana team. He's a good keeper. Fair play to him
- Numbers back at the weekend. Will assess when they come back on Thursday
- Not surprised we have difficult decisions to make on Saturday.
- We have built a strong squad with competition for places


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 21:06:06
they're part right, but our kids still beat their kids


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: singingiiiffy on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 21:08:57
Plymouth fans getting their excuses in

ĎNothing competition. Not bothered. Run out for the youngsters.í Playing against seasoned pros was my favourite!

Letís hope they pick themselves up for the weekend trip to the piss stains.

I liked seeing these compared to when the lineups came out

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Really good team. Iím hoping for a win tonight to get back in contention to see if we can progress in this competition. If we were to go up this might be our only chance to win a trophy for a long time (hopefully).

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Law, Mayor, Randell, Camara, Edwards. They could do some damage if they 'click' couldn't they??

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Shows what I know... nothing!
Looks like we're going for the win

Well worth the tenner to watch. would never have done that the last few seasons but i like the way our C team can still play the same football and will generally be a good watch. Very nice for confidence and game time for those that aren't going to get a look in the first team for a while. some very good performances


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: adje on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 21:14:39
McKirdy.My favourite scruff since Steve Jenkins


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 21:15:28
McKirdy.My favourite scruff since Steve Jenkins

My favourite since Dave Bamber.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: hefty toe on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 21:16:10
Swindon's recruitment has been absolutely superb for this season.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 21:18:10
Jury may be out for some on Garner, but Ben Chorley seems to have done superbly.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Kinky Tom on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 21:23:50
Jury may be out for some on Garner, but Ben Chorley seems to have done superbly.

My take on Garnerball is that he knew we were behind on fitness so encouraged a very keep ball at all costs approach until we got up to full speed, we've now been pressing more and are looking to be more progressive with our passing.  Hope we continue to improve as the signs are good at the moment.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 21:25:05
My take on Garnerball is that he knew we were behind on fitness so encouraged a very keep ball at all costs approach until we got up to full speed, we've now been pressing more and are looking to be more progressive with our passing.  Hope we continue to improve as the signs are good at the moment.

Next test will be to see if we can do it at home.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 21:31:00
Jury may be out for some on Garner, but Ben Chorley seems to have done superbly.
I'm about 150 degrees through my 180 on Garner. A couple of convincing home performances will complete the U turn...


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Crozzer on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 22:22:05
McKirdy.My favourite scruff since Steve Jenkins

I saw Steve Jenkins score a goal, once.  I think McKirdy has scored more so far than Jenkins did for the Town.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 22:37:26
Excited about the win!!  any win is a good win...BUT i missed the last 2 goals because my fucking students think i need to educate them...what balls they have.  to expect me to teach during class is just asking too much  :D

hopefully this give the younger players confidence and continues to rebuild the club


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 22:42:56
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_693TSuGKw

Worth a watch if youíve not seen it or it has been posted already.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 22:51:44
And another.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNsGOhPmDGM


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 23:46:26
ifollow game replay?????

i am trying to watch the replay of the game today but it seems locked...does the current game stay locked for a period of time?  i have re-watched last saturday's game with no problem.
please let me know if you have advise.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 00:35:27
I've known it do that before but I don't know why. It should unlock eventually.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 01:16:29
the bender by McKirdy in the 81st minute was just sick! 


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 06:13:19
So, have we qualified for the knock out phase or not. Twitter seems to think yes.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 07:33:55
Don't think we're through yet.
Could come down to goal difference etc if 3 teams finish on 6 points.

As for the game, a good watch.
Very impressed with the overall performance, particularly when compared with some of the disjointed efforts by scratch teams in previous years.
That's credit to the coaching and possibly a benefit from working with a smaller squad.

Would like to see Dabre being gradually introduced at the end of games if we are coasting. No rush though if we stay in this competition.

Three cup games and undefeated in the 90 minutes. Whatever next.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 07:55:36
FA Cup draw on Sunday. Letís see if we can progress in that, too.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 09:06:40
Really underwhelmed by that McKirdy shot against the post, I'd much rather have seen it scuffed on target and make the keeper actually make a save. I don't watch football for all these nearly efforts.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 09:09:13
FA Cup draw on Sunday. Letís see if we can progress in that, too.

Oh come on, lets not run before we can walk....


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 09:10:53
Really underwhelmed by that McKirdy shot against the post, I'd much rather have seen it scuffed on target and make the keeper actually make a save. I don't watch football for all these nearly efforts.

Hello Stef  :bye: :D


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 09:11:23
Really underwhelmed by that McKirdy shot against the post, I'd much rather have seen it scuffed on target and make the keeper actually make a save. I don't watch football for all these nearly efforts.

 :clap:


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Tails on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 09:55:58
Don't think we're through yet.
Could come down to goal difference etc if 3 teams finish on 6 points.


Aren't Arse & Plymouth on 0? So they can't finish on 6.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 09:57:22
Aren't Arse & Plymouth on 0? So they can't finish on 6.


Arsenal won last night.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 10:51:47
I'm about 150 degrees through my 180 on Garner. A couple of convincing home performances will complete the U turn...
Ditto.

Improve the home form and play McKirdy at home to get the crowd going and maybe bring Dabre on if we are winning late in the game to just lighten the game up with his little devilry! that should be enough to get the crowd buzzing.

My concerns with "Garnerball" was that we were playing way too many short passes at the back and putting us under pointless pressure at the back, in the last 3 games that has stopped almost entirely, and also when McKirdy is on we have normally 3 proper attackers, when its just Simpson on his own we look less likely to score, although I think Simpson is very good hes much better with a player who plays closer to him.

Shit cup or not that was a decent performance against a strong side, Hardie on his own has more league goals in his career than all of our team combined have career goals, and Agard many many more, they also played some very experience players in Camara (crazy legs crane), Hardie, Agard, Mayor, Edwards, Wilson, and also Garrick also their "fringe players" had loads of experience too at league level Gillesphie, Burton,

We had just Baudry and Hunt that had more than 100 football league appearances in the entire side that started or finished the game!

Hello Stef  :bye: :D
:D


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 11:11:25
the bender by McKirdy in the 81st minute was just sick! 

He really is playing at full confidence at the moment.


Title: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 11:13:56
I think the muff commentary may be right,  he could be a feast or famine type player.

let's hope we are festivally plump come end December


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 11:16:40
Or it could be like a previous manager said ĎHe needs to be lovedí.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 11:48:05
I said it when he first came here, he reminds me of Jimmy Bullard.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 11:48:25
Or it could be like a previous manager said ĎHe needs to be lovedí.
I think this is more likely his personality.

Ward was on t'radio pre game talking about McKirdy, he was asked "what is it like to have McKirdy around the dressing room" to which Ward answered "it doesnt matter what personality he has off the pitch, its about what he does on the pitch that matters". Which sounded a bit like "I wont answer that question".


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 11:49:21
What we (and that includes the fans) have to learn from is Carlisle...


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 11:53:46
What we (and that includes the fans) have to learn from is Carlisle...
As we don't live in that part of the world please explain your comment for those of us who don't know the story :)

I know he wasnt settled at Carlisle but no idea why or what else went on.

I did find this.

https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/port-vales-rivals-defend-decision-4149574


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 12:08:13
And this from a Carlisle fan on their forum after they knew heíd signed for us

ĎWe all know that Harry is going to play at a higher level eventually and be worth a bit of money, he has the potential anyhow.

I only wish we had a manager like Simmo in at the time when he was with us, he would more likely have listened to him.

The right manager in Mckirdy's ear and he will fly.í


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 12:12:49
As we don't live in that part of the world please explain your comment for those of us who don't know the story :)

I know he wasnt settled at Carlisle but no idea why or what else went on.

Apol's thought it had been discussed on here before.

Basically he is a peculiar character that takes things very personally (as I think is common knowledge), at Carlisle the whole thing was exacerbated by the fans getting on his back after a couple of bad games which sped it all falling to bits.



Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 12:20:19
Apol's thought it had been discussed on here before.
It maye have and I may well have missed it :) cheers.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 12:21:46
It maye have and I may well have missed it :) cheers.

This doesn't cover the fan bit (think that was in the local rag in north Cumbria), but does give an insight into the wider issues at Carlisle. https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/port-vales-rivals-defend-decision-4149574


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 12:24:52
This doesn't cover the fan bit (think that was in the local rag in north Cumbria), but does give an insight into the wider issues at Carlisle. https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/port-vales-rivals-defend-decision-4149574
Thats the page I quoted above ;)


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 12:31:23
Thats the page I quoted above ;)

Ah so you did, did you edit your post or am I just fucking blind!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 12:32:41
Quote from: horlock07
What we (and that includes the fans) have to learn from is Carlisle...

the ones we met in the pub pre match basically said

"bags of talent, shame he's a total cunt who only cares if Chelsea won.. even straight after playing in a loss".
---
personally think he's only 24 now, a good age to start growing up a bit at "work" if it's needed.

he's been bloody brilliant last 3 games. Long may it continue


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 12:33:45
the ones we met in the pub pre match basically said

"bags of talent, shame he's a total cunt who only cares if Chelsea won.. even straight after playing in a loss".
---
personally think he's only 24 now, a good age to start growing up a bit at "work" if it's needed.

he's been bloody brilliant last 3 games. Long may it continue

Probably because Chelsea are having such a good season! ;)


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 12:34:16
Ah so you did, did you edit your post or am I just fucking blind!
I added it literally 2 mins after I posted as I googled that but not changed it for 20 mins!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 12:38:28
I added it literally 2 mins after I posted as I googled that but not changed it for 20 mins!

Ah that will be it, I started replying but the the phone went and I only fished the reply after that.

Although I accept that I am known for missing what is literally in front of me!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: normy on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 13:00:51
I love the way that Garnerball has permeated through to the backup players, judging by this impressive win.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: swindonmaniac on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 13:56:14
Probably because Chelsea are having such a good season! ;)
So are we and long may it continue - especially with McKirdys current form.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Moss on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 14:46:34
I said it when he first came here, he reminds me of Jimmy Bullard.

That's a bit below the belt, Jimmy Bullard is an absolute cunt.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 15:03:50
Reading about McKirdy, he seems like an very talented but yet emotional player.   Right now it seems like he has found a home that he is accepted and thriving in but often with players like this it can turn quickly.  But maybe the coach just knows how to reach him.  in american football, coaches like Bilicheck get those players that have had issues elsewhere to buy in and just want to win with the team..hopefully this is the case at Swindon, I like the way McKirdy plays


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 15:51:22
the bender by McKirdy in the 81st minute was just sick! 

Curler, mate. Bender is slang for homosexual.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 16:05:27
 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Mind you, curler is slang for a freshly laid turd


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 16:10:40
Fair point. But everytime Godd posts I can't help but think of the Boston Goals sketch off Soccer AM


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 16:43:54
Curler, mate. Bender is slang for homosexual.

You should try telling staff over here that you pulled together the analysis on the back of a fag packet.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Tails on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 16:46:44
Curler, mate. Bender is slang for homosexual.

The Arizona Cardinals recently tweeted about their QB being a bender. Made me laugh a lot.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 16:53:21
Curler, mate. Bender is slang for homosexual.

I see...this is good information....not the same here in the states.

so if a player hits a "curler" with their outside foot, we call it a banana


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 16:53:22
The Arizona Cardinals recently tweeted about their QB being a bender. Made me laugh a lot.

What does bender mean in Yankee language?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 16:55:34
What does bender mean in Yankee language?

I guess this is for me??? in soccer that is "bending" the ball with curve....

it also means going to some place like Vegas and drinking for many days.... "Bob went on a bender this weekend"


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 16:55:57
Fair point. But everytime Godd posts I can't help but think of the Boston Goals sketch off Soccer AM

is this a TV show?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 16:56:34
You should try telling staff over here that you pulled together the analysis on the back of a fag packet.

Those are cigarettes, correct?  why are cigarettes called "Fags"?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 16:59:13
When I was in high school, me and about 7 other teammates went to a soccer camp at the Naval Academy in Maryland.
this is about 1100 miles away .   anyway, while we were there we were basically zoo animals for the other players...they would ask us if we had indians (feather on head kind) still in Nebraska.  They asked if we still used outhouses for the toilet.  all of this was in earnest. 

this is what i feel like again  :D :D :D



Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 17:00:29
I guess this is for me??? in soccer that is "bending" the ball with curve....

it also means going to some place like Vegas and drinking for many days.... "Bob went on a bender this weekend"

I know about the term to go on a bender, but why would a QB be described as a "bender"? It doesn't seem to fit either of those phrases?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 17:01:18
Those are cigarettes, correct?  why are cigarettes called "Fags"?

yeah they are cigarettes, not a clue as to why they are known as fags, Dr Google or Susie Dent would be your best bet :)

According to a random site I found after a quick Alta Vista search..........

'Hand rolled cigarettes often have loose strands of tobacco sticking out of the end. These were thought to resemble the cut, and frayed end of a piece of rope, called the fag-end. Cigarettes were therefore referred to as fag ends, quickly shortened to fags.'


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 17:07:16
When I was in high school, me and about 7 other teammates went to a soccer camp at the Naval Academy in Maryland.
this is about 1100 miles away .   anyway, while we were there we were basically zoo animals for the other players...they would ask us if we had indians (feather on head kind) still in Nebraska.  They asked if we still used outhouses for the toilet.  all of this was in earnest. 

this is what i feel like again  :D :D :D



The language in the 2 countries, despite both English speaking can be very different.

I remember in Florida I popped into a shop to pick up a few bits of food etc but I left a bag and went back and said I had left 'a bag of shopping' in the store from earlier. The assistant looked at me as if I had 2 heads. 'Your what?' she said. 'my shopping, in a bag' I replied. I had to translate this to 'groceries' before she knew what I was talking about.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 17:13:47
I know about the term to go on a bender, but why would a QB be described as a "bender"? It doesn't seem to fit either of those phrases?
\

i am not sure...i tried to find the tweet but no luck..i would have to read it


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 17:16:30
The language in the 2 countries, despite both English speaking can be very different.

I remember in Florida I popped into a shop to pick up a few bits of food etc but I left a bag and went back and said I had left 'a bag of shopping' in the store from earlier. The assistant looked at me as if I had 2 heads. 'Your what?' she said. 'my shopping, in a bag' I replied. I had to translate this to 'groceries' before she knew what I was talking about.


Teaching high school students, sometimes our american english still is very different than their american english...bunch of dumb asses!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 17:25:52
It's quite fun - the reality is that most of American English is actually Ye Olde English and it hasn't evolved in the same way as traditional English (misnomer alert) has.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Hunk on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 18:50:54
https://youtu.be/LAdNOyeMNLw

Rather funny way of explaining the difficulties inherit in the accent differences, if not the parlance per se


Title: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 19:04:22
If a UK student, even a younger one, asked you for a rubber, you wouldn't be shocked.

also

https://youtu.be/om7O0MFkmpw (https://youtu.be/om7O0MFkmpw)


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 19:13:40
is this a TV show?

Soccer AM was a fairly popular saturday morning show. Not sure if it's still going. Yeah we use bender to mean go out drinking on a mad one too.

Boston Goals (I doubt you'll find it as funny as I do though):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6l4lT00Pgs


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 19:17:14
Soccer AM was a fairly popular saturday morning show. Not sure if it's still going. Yeah we use bender to mean go out drinking on a mad one too.

Boston Goals (I doubt you'll find it as funny as I do though):
I used to love Soccer AM and yes it is still going as I saw some on Saturday pre game, its shit now!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 19:22:12
Soccer AM was a fairly popular saturday morning show. Not sure if it's still going. Yeah we use bender to mean go out drinking on a mad one too.

Boston Goals (I doubt you'll find it as funny as I do though):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6l4lT00Pgs

Iíve never seen that before - itís ace  :D


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Benzel on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 20:10:41
Yeah Boston Goals was way better than the more recent Brad Bobley sketches

Sent from my CLT-L09


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: ibelieveinmrreeves on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 22:17:45
Jamaican international Anthony Grant in that Wycombe team (along with Tommy Mooney and Dany N'Guessan for Boston).


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, October 14, 2021, 06:59:26
Yeah, I recognised Grant from that first tasty challenge. He hasn't changed :)


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Tails on Thursday, October 14, 2021, 09:49:38
What does bender mean in Yankee language?

It was in reference to him being an airbender I think (There's a kids tv show called The Last Airbender) because of a celebration he did... But they just referred to him as a bender and I am very immature so found it very funny!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, October 14, 2021, 11:38:56
TBH back in the 70s and early 80s everyone called a curling shot a "bender" even though it has always had a double meaning, When Swansea came to the CG in 1980 they had a huge banner which said "Alan Curtis bends more balls than Jeremy Thorpe" in reference to the gay allegations about ex MP Jeremy Thorpe at the time but also to Curtis's ability to curl a football.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, October 14, 2021, 11:51:17
Allegations! He was a self confessed player of the pink oboe - as told by Peter Cook.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, October 14, 2021, 11:53:58
Allegations! He was a self confessed player of the pink oboe - as told by Peter Cook.
At the time the game took place they were still allegations ;)


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Bogus Dave on Thursday, October 14, 2021, 12:23:01
it makes me laugh when Americans poke fun at British-English, and then have names like Ďcregí or Ďgramí (not aimed at godders, unless his real name is Craig or graham)

Worst confusion I ever had was asking where I could buy a torch whilst at the Grand Canyon, led to some alarmed faces from the woman behind the till



Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Crispy on Thursday, October 14, 2021, 12:40:07
The Arizona Cardinals recently tweeted about their QB being a bender. Made me laugh a lot.

K1 - Airbender and MVP.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Thursday, October 14, 2021, 15:41:30
it makes me laugh when Americans poke fun at British-English, and then have names like Ďcregí or Ďgramí (not aimed at godders, unless his real name is Craig or graham)

"Wooo I love Pattys Day, I'm Irish. My name is Gram Creg", said Mr Graham Craig, American with fully Scottish name and ancestry.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Tails on Thursday, October 14, 2021, 15:47:12
K1 - Airbender and MVP.

TBC on the latter although I love watching him run around with his tiny body and massive head!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, October 14, 2021, 16:04:35
Just had a look in on the Plymouth forum. Thereís a clamour for our No. 5. I automatically thought that was Critchlow - but itís Baudry! They thought he was brilliant and would make a great LB!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, October 14, 2021, 16:09:36
Just had a look in on the Plymouth forum. Thereís a clamour for our No. 5. I automatically thought that was Critchlow - but itís Baudry! They thought he was brilliant and would make a great LB!
They must be mistaken. Baudry is predominantly right footed. Whereas Circh is only left footed.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, October 14, 2021, 16:10:30
Just had a look in on the Plymouth forum. Thereís a clamour for our No. 5. I automatically thought that was Critchlow - but itís Baudry! They thought he was brilliant and would make a great LB!

I'm sure we could come to some sort of agreement.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, October 14, 2021, 16:18:19
Just had a look in on the Plymouth forum. Thereís a clamour for our No. 5. I automatically thought that was Critchlow - but itís Baudry! They thought he was brilliant and would make a great LB!

Crichlow was number 5. 100%


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: ibelieveinmrreeves on Thursday, October 14, 2021, 20:34:30
Baudry is 6. There's even a thread with squad numbers...


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Thursday, October 14, 2021, 23:11:43
I am not a number, Iím a free man.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: ron dodgers on Friday, October 15, 2021, 00:50:03
Can I bum a fag please?