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Title: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Saturday, October 9, 2021, 20:49:36
So from what I have gathered, Tuesdayís game is part of a publicity tournament for papa Johnís.  So often sides play back ups to avoid injury.   I can understand that BUT with the momentum STFC has right now wouldnít it be good to play the team to continue their growth and communication?   And besides I have heard u win like $10,000 if u win a game.  That is party money for team morale!!!!!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Saturday, October 9, 2021, 21:50:10
WTF???  Did I say something wrong?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Saturday, October 9, 2021, 22:09:22
Everyone is in bed!

Think that Garner will play those who came in today in order to see if they can repeat today. I suspect several of the subs will come in - East, Dabre, Baudry and Parsons


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Saturday, October 9, 2021, 22:15:26
Everyone is in bed!

Think that Garner will play those who came in today in order to see if they can repeat today. I suspect several of the subs will come in - East, Dabre, Baudry and Parsons

Not everyone.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Saturday, October 9, 2021, 22:47:01
WTF???  Did I say something wrong?

The football fan of England would rather spit on your grave than consider this an actual game.  It's not you, it's me, so she said.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, October 10, 2021, 06:58:38
I never knew Jordan Garrick had joined Plymouth.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: swindonmaniac on Sunday, October 10, 2021, 08:04:31
Papa John's tournament ??,  I'd sooner stick wasps up my arse than waste my time watching that shite worthless, premier league interfering tournament.  Wembley final still wouldn't make me change my mind.    :smugfu: :smugfu:.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: donkey on Sunday, October 10, 2021, 08:35:01
Papa John's tournament ??,  I'd sooner stick wasps up my are than waste my time watching that shite worthless, premier league interfering tournament.  Wembley final still wouldn't make me change my mind.    :smugfu: :smugfu:.

I agree with you (apart from the wasp bit).


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: swindonmaniac on Sunday, October 10, 2021, 09:14:34
 :D :D


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, October 10, 2021, 09:24:02
I never knew Jordan Garrick had joined Plymouth.
He turned down a loan to us in preference to Plymouth in August, their fans are not overly keen on him yet hes made little or no impact when he has played or come off the bench. Until yesterday when playing RWB he was MoM apparently.

As for the game, I don't care about the result but Garner obviously does (he has said so in the past) and its a chance to see how our fringe players and youngsters perform and its included in the iFollow season pass so I will be watching.

They played an almost entire youth/reserve side last game and lost at Newport 2-0 so they dont care it seems.

I never realised they are top of L1 after yesterdays win too.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Sunday, October 10, 2021, 09:28:12
Papa John's tournament ??,  I'd sooner stick wasps up my arse than waste my time watching that shite worthless, premier league interfering tournament.  Wembley final still wouldn't make me change my mind.    :smugfu: :smugfu:.

Ohh do I like this post.
👍🙌


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Monday, October 11, 2021, 21:55:41
Everyone is in bed!

Think that Garner will play those who came in today in order to see if they can repeat today. I suspect several of the subs will come in - East, Dabre, Baudry and Parsons

i will admit i had consumed a bit of gin when i posted this and forgot the time difference ......
i guess i still need to learn the difference between types of games, to me a match is a match...why wouldn't coming out
and beating the piss out of a L1 top team prove somethings? 


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Crispy on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 05:49:18
i will admit i had consumed a bit of gin when i posted this and forgot the time difference ......
i guess i still need to learn the difference between types of games, to me a match is a match...why wouldn't coming out
and beating the piss out of a L1 top team prove somethings? 

Because the competition is gateway to league football for Premier League Reserve & B teams. It's an absolute farce and boycotted by the majority of lower league fans, with the exception of a few who seem to like to take 40k to Wembley to justify it all - I'm looking at you Portsmouth  :smugfu:


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 05:49:26
i will admit i had consumed a bit of gin when i posted this and forgot the time difference ......
i guess i still need to learn the difference between types of games, to me a match is a match...why wouldn't coming out
and beating the piss out of a L1 top team prove somethings?  
Because the L1 top team will be made up of reserve players. The other top teams field academy sides. Its like watching the Huskers practice squad play against SMU (first team I could think of) practice squad - Now if it was against the Aggies, things may have been different! (Go gig 'em!   :spoton:  :toocool:)


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 06:00:21
Iím looking forward to seeing those players who are on the fringes. Can Dabre repeat his good performance against Arsenal. Aguiar and East, Harry Parsons, Baudry and Lyden coming back from long term injuries. Is Mitchell Lawson a viable alternative if/when Simpson is out.

Important game, I reckon. Not too bothered about the result but am about the performance of individuals.

Our first choice 15/16 are fine, but I canít see those will get through the whole season without injury/suspensions.

Game time, even in this competition, is vital.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 06:20:54
Iím looking forward to seeing those players who are on the fringes. Can Dabre repeat his good performance against Arsenal. Aguiar and East, Harry Parsons, Baudry and Lyden coming back from long term injuries. Is Mitchell Lawson a viable alternative if/when Simpson is out.

Important game, I reckon. Not too bothered about the result but am about the performance of individuals.

Our first choice 15/16 are fine, but I canít see those will get through the whole season without injury/suspensions.

Game time, even in this competition, is vital.
Agree - A training session. (I'll be watching)


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: normy on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 08:20:07
Agree - A training session. (I'll be watching)

So will I


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 08:30:47
Hope the Cowmeadow get a run out!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 09:21:55
So will I
+1

Its still a first team fixture against (mostly) 1st team players, its good money for the club if we win, the same amount as we got from Sky for a fucking live TV game!

Its a chance to run the eye over the fringe players as we have no competitive reserve league any more.

Also winnings breeds confidence.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 09:22:29
Hope the Cowmeadow get a run out!
He has impressed me when I have seen him play, about 5 or 6 times previously to go with his great name!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 10:32:35
I got an email yesterday offering me a discount on 2 large Papa Johnís pizza for just under a tenner - proper price nearly £33.

Wtf!

2 Large Pizzas At Papa John's For £9.99 (norm £32.98)

Papa Johns Pizza DealIf you wanted a takeaway, this is a very good deal to get you 2 large pizzas.

This is quite an unusual deal, in the sense that you have to buy it through Wowcher.

There are only 49 locations involved in the deal, so make sure you check your local is available before buying.

Once you've bought the deal, you can enter a code on the Papa Johns website when ordering.

Find out more information, and to get the deal, head over to Wowcher.

The Catch: Only valid at 49 stores

Expiry: While Stocks Last


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: THE FLASH on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 10:33:15
Used to go all the time to these games and with Plymouth just over the border from where my brother lives, i would of gone to this one, probably with the nephew.

Premiership B Teams was the thin end of the wedge for me and i havent been since.

Wont go even if its the final, happy to watch that on TV in the pub.

If the premiership want competitive B Team fixtures, bring back the combination league, they have the money to do it.

Anyway, no injuries tonight please.



Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 10:43:40
I got an email yesterday offering me a discount on 2 large Papa Johnís pizza for just under a tenner - proper price nearly £33.

Wtf!

2 Large Pizzas At Papa John's For £9.99 (norm £32.98)

Papa Johns Pizza DealIf you wanted a takeaway, this is a very good deal to get you 2 large pizzas.

This is quite an unusual deal, in the sense that you have to buy it through Wowcher.

There are only 49 locations involved in the deal, so make sure you check your local is available before buying.

Once you've bought the deal, you can enter a code on the Papa Johns website when ordering.

Find out more information, and to get the deal, head over to Wowcher.

The Catch: Only valid at 49 stores

Expiry: While Stocks Last

To be fair, the Melksham Papa Johns has been £9.99 for a extra large pizza when collected for a month of so now.
Itís superb on a hangover!!

They shit all over Dominoís!!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 10:45:24
For those that are interested about team selections.

Player rules for the game - Swindon must start with at least four outfield first teamers.

A first-team player is defined as someone who starts either of the matches directly before or after the EFL Trophy fixture v Plymouth, a player that has started 40 or more senior matches during their entire career or a player who has started at least the 10th-most matches for the club that season.

Any EFL club that fails to meet this requirement is fined up to £5,000.

So that means Lyden, Baudrey, Iandolo and Ward would cover that rule.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 10:47:45
the Muff preview FWIW.

Quote
Argyle take on Swindon Town in the second of their Papa Johnís Trophy fixtures on Tuesday night.

The Greens lost their opening game of the competition, away to Newport County AFC, but havenít tasted defeat since.

A number of youngsters were handed game time in the loss, with five players given their debuts by Ryan Lowe.

One of those was 15-year-old Freddie Issaka, who became Argyleís youngest ever player when he came on as a second half substitute.

Since that game, Argyle have won four and drawn three in Sky Bet League One and currently sit top of the table.

As for Swindon, they won their opening game of the tournament, beating Arsenal under-21s 2-1 at the County Ground.

Since being relegated to Sky Bet League Two last season, they have been in decent form and lie third in the division.

They have won their last two matches, including a 2-0 triumph over neighbours and leaders Forest Green Rovers on Saturday.

Harry McKirdy and Tyreece Simpson scored for the Robins, who are currently on a four-match unbeaten run.

The form the Wiltshire side are on means that Tuesday nightís will a tough one for the Pilgrims and Ryan Lowe knows his side will have to be at their best.

He said, ďTheyíre a good team, they beat Forest Green on the weekend, and we will have to respect them.

ďThey were a good team in our league last season and got relegated for whatever reason but for us we have to make sure we put a plan together for them.

ďWe are expecting a really tough game and itís one that we want to win.Ē

Argyle have played Swindon four times previously in the EFL Trophy, most recently in October 2019 when Zak Rudden, Joel Grant and Joe Riley gave the Greens a 3-0 win.

Loweís side also did the double over Swindon in the league last season, beating them 4-2 at Home Park and 2-0 at the County Ground.

TEAM NEWS

Ryan Lowe is expected to make changes for the game, which kicks off at 7pm. Luke Jephcott and Brendan Galloway are still away with their international teams, while Niall Ennis and James Bolton are out injured.

Danny Mayor came on as a substitute in the win over Burton Albion on Saturday and is expected to play a part while Callum Burton is likely to come in for Mike Cooper in goal.

Swindon also have players away on international duty. Anthony Grant is with the Jamaican squad playing World Cup qualifiers, while Jojo Wollacott is away with Ghana.

Jonny Williams is in action for Wales and Kaine Kesler-Hayden is with the England under-20 squad.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 10:51:50
For those that are interested about team selections.

Player rules for the game - Swindon must start with at least four outfield first teamers.

A first-team player is defined as someone who starts either of the matches directly before or after the EFL Trophy fixture v Plymouth, a player that has started 40 or more senior matches during their entire career or a player who has started at least the 10th-most matches for the club that season.

Any EFL club that fails to meet this requirement is fined up to £5,000.

So that means Lyden, Baudrey, Iandolo and Ward would cover that rule.

I assume outfield doesn't include goalkeepers so Ward wouldn't be included JJ?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 10:53:09
Ryan Lowe thought we were a good team last season. Fuck me!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 10:54:56
I assume outfield doesn't include goalkeepers so Ward wouldn't be included JJ?
It does sound like that but I was told it was actually all players, not sure who to believe as that was lifted from the pasty munchers forum.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 11:01:26
It does sound like that but I was told it was actually all players, not sure who to believe as that was lifted from the pasty munchers forum.

The wording is a little confusing isn't it.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 11:09:26
I assume outfield doesn't include goalkeepers so Ward wouldn't be included JJ?

What if Ward played upfront?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 11:11:22
Went to the game at their place in 2014.
Took a wrong turn and ended up sat with the home fans.

Recall that Jack Stephens missed a sitter at the end to complete a comeback from 3 down at half time.
Gladwin scored that night as well.
The lesser spotted Jack Barthram started at RWB, hooked after 55 mins.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 11:19:04
What if Ward played upfront?

I wouldn't be averse to it in this tournament!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: THE FLASH on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 11:33:21
Ryan Lowe thought we were a good team last season. Fuck me!

A lifetime ban from football is in order for that comment.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 11:36:15
A lifetime ban from football is in order for that comment.
Ryan Lowe after the match.

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BOTk5NzQwOTU4OF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwMTk3MTk0._V1_UY264_CR3,0,178,264_AL_.jpg)


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: THE FLASH on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 11:37:50
Ryan Lowe after the match.

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BOTk5NzQwOTU4OF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwMTk3MTk0._V1_UY264_CR3,0,178,264_AL_.jpg)

All he could hear was Sheridactyl swearing! :)


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 11:43:47
Was that Ďtheí Brett Pitman rant? Or was that Pompey?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 11:46:54
Was that Ďtheí Brett Pitman rant? Or was that Pompey?
Pompey away.


Title: Re: Papa John’s Tournament???
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 14:48:08
And for those of you watching in black and white kick off is at 7 pm tonight.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 16:19:40
Lyden should get a run out tonight.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 16:27:41
Lyden should get a run out tonight.
Definately and Baudry, I think he will go with...

Ward, Odimayo, Iandolo, Baudry, Mitchell-Lawson, Lyden, Hunt, East, Aguiar, Parsons, Dabre.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 16:52:24
Ward, Odimayo, Crichlow, Baudry (C), Lyden, Mitchell-Lawson, Hunt, East, Aguiar, Parsons, Dabre.

SUBS | Mildenhall, Iandolo, McKirdy, Cowmeadow, Francis, Minturn, Winchcombe.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 16:53:08
Almost called it with just Crich in for Iandolo from my guess.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 16:53:22
Interesting to see Mildy on the bench!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 17:00:46
If Muff treat this as some kind of training session weíll piss it. Weíre the kings of that!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 17:06:03
If Muff treat this as some kind of training session weíll piss it. Weíre the kings of that!
They have ex Town targets Agard and Mayor starting.

TBF they have probably more league appearances between their starting line up than we do! they are taking this one more seriously than the away game at Newport.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 17:10:02
Couple of those youths on the bench Iíve never heard of.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 17:12:37
Mildenhall on the bench! Never wanted an early red more than I do now.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 17:15:29
Couple of those youths on the bench Iíve never heard of.
The only one I am unfamiliar with is Winchcombe, the rest have been on the bench or played in friendlies for us before.
Callum Winchcombe is a left footed attacker aged just 17 who has a thunderous left foot on him apparently who we signed from Pro-Cision football academy.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 17:16:26
Mildenhall on the bench! Never wanted an early red more than I do now.
I am in 2 minds, another great performance and clean sheet from Ward would give Garner even more of a headache and build Wards confidence no end.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 17:26:16
Hopefully Plymouth will turn up the floodlights in time for the game, looks like they forgot to put their 50p into the meter.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 17:26:34
Is this a similar line up to the Arsenal game? Apart from Dabre and Aguiar I canít remember who else played.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 17:32:12
Is this a similar line up to the Arsenal game? Apart from Dabre and Aguiar I canít remember who else played.
Its almost identical just a couple of changes.

That was.

Quote
Ward, Odimayo, Iandolo (C), Crichlow, Mitchell-Lawson, Gilbert, Hunt, East, Aguiar, Parsons, Dabre.

SUBS | Wollacott, Conroy, Simpson, Payne, Gordon, Cowmeadow, Francis.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 17:52:08
OH SHIT!!! Playing Sirus before the game....just like a Husker game....


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 17:55:34
Dabre playing LWB/LW whereas last game he played RW, versatile.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 17:58:31
The brilliant Dan Cole on Twitter has just said itís 7465 days since Mildenhall last played for Swindon.
.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 17:59:06
Is the left back the same player that played last saturday in that spot?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 17:59:59
Is the left back the same player that played last saturday in that spot?
No, the left back has only played once before, he played right wing for the Arsenal game.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:00:16
He needed to go 1v1 and challenge the defender


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:00:23
JML's touch at times is very poor, he goes to ground far too easily and eagerly.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:00:52
Twice now Mitchell-Lawson weakly beaten by his defender.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:02:12
Plymouth score but its well offside.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:03:55
Good 30 yarder from East thats saved.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:05:36
nice play


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:05:45
Parsons misses a decent chance after a great run from East to Lyden, they ar elinking up well so far.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:08:06
JML really should have got a shot in after beating his man in the box but he loses it weakly.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:08:32
JMLís not clicking yet. Playing on his own.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:09:19
Attackers need to test the keeper....take a few quick shots and see what skill he has.  if nothing else, it will force the defense to step up to attacker quicker and opening up passing lanes


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:10:31
Plymouths Camara looks a bit like crazy legs crane.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:11:21
1-0 Parsons or an OG.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:12:07
Good passing into the area. Got lucky with the shot.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:12:08
Very tight angle was going in anyway but the defender hits it into his own net from 1 yard.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:12:23
OG.

did him with the eyes :)


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Crackity Jones on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:12:43
A first half goal. I assume we don't count it given its the efl trophy


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:12:48
The goal was definately deserved, we have had the much better of the play so far.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:13:33
Very tight angle was going in anyway but the defender hits it into his own net from 1 yard.

Do you think Parsonsí shot was good enough to go in?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:15:18
Do you think Parsonsí shot was good enough to go in?
It had the power and was heading for the goal for sure, not sure if it would have gone as there was another defender close but it looked like it may.

Corner to Town.

1-1


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:16:36
Ward could have done better from that toe poke from Agard.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:16:45
Bugger!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:16:53
Pretty routine equaliser getting in front of - yes - Baudry.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:17:06
Plymouths 2nd attack, thats the difference between L1 and L2.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:17:44
Pretty routine equaliser getting in front of - yes - Baudry.
Yes Baudry is a little behind Agard as per norm.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:17:53
pah, bring on mildy


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:18:47
pah, bring on mildy
One ball...hes only got 1 ball....


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:19:02
pah, bring on mildy

For Baudry.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:19:17
Dabre is a proper handful, like a little Tasmanian devil.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:19:29
I like the look of Dabre!



Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:20:51
Baudry yellow


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:21:06
Yellow for Baudry so any more silly challenges like that and he will go off anyway with a red.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:22:21
Agiuar, Lyden and East all playing quite well I think in the middle.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:24:37
Town were definately the better side until Plymouth scored but its been mostly Plymouth since then.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:25:30
Baudry looking way off the pace so far.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:26:10
Baudry looking way off the pace so far.

Was going to say he looks like he may be done at this level.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:28:18
Was going to say he looks like he may be done at this level.

He was already dreadful last year, irrespective of the level.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:29:15
Was going to say he looks like he may be done at this level.
I think you are right, I hope this is his last venture in our frst team.

Agard misses an absolute sitter.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:32:40
Baudry did well there.. recovering after letting Agard in.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:32:41
Iíll give him some credit there, though it didnít involve running.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:33:29
Iíll give him some credit there, though it didnít involve running.
Absolutely, decent tackle.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:34:33
Fantastic save by Ward from Mayors shot.

Similar to his save on Saturday from the free kick.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:34:43
Great save by Ward


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:35:30
I'm not sure Baudry's issue is the usual one of the legs going, I think his reaction speed has gone.  He's a second or two behind doing what he should be.  The goal was a good example, he'd tracked the run well enough but hadn't reacted in time to the cross itself to get anything goal side of Agard.  He was also slow in stepping up a minute or two back, Crichlow was gesturing what the rets were trying to do.  It's similar to the earlier part of last season where he looked like a player who was rusty, but he can't seem to shake that off.  The game is just moving faster than his brain.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:35:37
so if these players are 2nd teamers or younger players...do they have subs to bring on ?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:35:38
Lots of slack passing at the back from us last 5 mins.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:36:02
Another good low save by Ward from Mayor.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:36:37
JML off the pace again.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:37:24
JML off the pace again.
JML and Parsons have both been off the pace tonight even though Parsons had a huge hand in the goal thats all he has done so far.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:37:36
so if these players are 2nd teamers or younger players...do they have subs to bring on ?

Most of our subs are also younger players.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:38:04
I'm not sure Baudry's issue is the usual one of the legs going, I think his reaction speed has gone.  He's a second or two behind doing what he should be.  The goal was a good example, he'd tracked the run well enough but hadn't reacted in time to the cross itself to get anything goal side of Agard.  He was also slow in stepping up a minute or two back, Crichlow was gesturing what the rets were trying to do.  It's similar to the earlier part of last season where he looked like a player who was rusty, but he can't seem to shake that off.  The game is just moving faster than his brain.
Is that the slowness of thought that we have seen from the likes of Gladwin and co who were regaining fitness and were rusty?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:38:38
Ward misses that cross but luckily it went wide of the player.

HT 1-1

Lyden my MoM so far followed by Dabre probably.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:39:06
meh. ok first 20, downhill since .

Hunt pick of our players for me


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:39:51
HT 1-1 Couldn't come soon enough.

Started brightly and we're all over Plymouth. Once Plymouth scored we looked a little deflated and then seemed to tire in the last 15 mins


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:40:10
Is that the slowness of thought that we have seen from the likes of Gladwin and co who were regaining fitness and were rusty?

Yes and no, I am not sure Baudry has anywhere to go.  I think two seasons running suggests this just may be the beginning of the end of his career.  Such a drop off from the first season with us.  Gladwin is gradually improving and was not a speed of thought issue.  I think his was physical, he looks like the sort of player that needs a lot of "winding-up" to get to full speed.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:40:14
Is that the slowness of thought that we have seen from the likes of Gladwin and co who were regaining fitness and were rusty?

I think weíre past that with Baudry. I canít remember him having a half-decent game in 15+ months.


Title: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:40:42
Quote
I'm not sure Baudry's issue is the usual one of the legs going, .
could be.

he's also barely played for quite some time.

edit: I see you've addressed that point above


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:41:14
Parsons also looked a bit cream crackered at the end of that half, not the first time.  Looks quite bright but seems very short of stamina.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:42:03
Enjoyable half. Lucky to still be 1-1. Like the look of East, Dabre and flashes of Aguiar. Mitchell Lawson doesnít seem to offer much. Lyden and Hunt pretty good. More good saves from Ward.

We seem very easy to get at.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Frigby Daser on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:42:34
Yes and no, I am not sure Baudry has anywhere to go.  I think two seasons running suggests this just may be the beginning of the end of his career.  Such a drop off from the first season with us.  Gladwin is gradually improving and was not a speed of thought issue.  I think his was physical, he looks like the sort of player that needs a lot of "winding-up" to get to full speed.

Yes and no, I am not sure Baudry has anywhere to go.  I think two seasons running suggests this just may be the beginning of the end of his career.  Such a drop off from the first season with us.  Gladwin is gradually improving and was not a speed of thought issue.  I think his was physical, he looks like the sort of player that needs a lot of "winding-up" to get to full speed.

Centre backs may be needed in January. Weíve done well to keep the first choice back three fit, but they need competition and back up. Iandolo could drop in, so could Grant, but Iím not sure we even have youth players who can come in there so we (otherwise, theyíd presumably be playing tonight).


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:43:42
Enjoyable half. Lucky to still be 1-1. Like the look of East, Dabre and flashes of Aguiar. Mitchell Lawson doesnít seem to offer much. Lyden and Hunt pretty good. More good saves from Ward.

We seem very easy to get at.
All of that.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:44:22
To be fair to Baudry, I think the Plymouth front players are more like what he faced last season and there would be plenty of carthorses at our level that he could probably handle, but not for much longer.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: normy on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:46:25
An attractive half and we're still in it.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:48:31
Too many of ours were wasteful - Odimayo, Lyden - off the pace - Baudry, JML - or marginal - Dabre, Parsons.

Hunt and East ok, but not clicking as a team since the first 15. Not that surprising or concerning in the circumstances, but youíd like to see more claims for a first team place.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:48:41
Something to work on with Dabre, but he does have a hint of the McNamee about him.

East looks comfortable enough, as does Lyden and the latter has match fitness to come yet.

Aguiar has potential but is a bit whispy - he floats in an out of the game too easily for my liking.  Again, something to work with and develop though.

Parsons is clearly a level below Simpson, which means that would be my priority for any strengthening we can manage in January.

Good enough half all things considered.  They are weaker than their first team, but so are we, by a margin.  You can see the impact of Garner because the football is the same regardless of the players.  Shows his coaching skills, still skeptical about his long term career as a Manager.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 18:55:54
Mayor gone off, he was probably their biggest threat 1st half.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:03:30
Bright enough start again.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:07:17
Bright enough start again.
It is.

I think we also need to take into consideration....

Plymouth have a very experienced team tonight, they have a striker playing who has scored over 100 1st team goals.
Plymouth are top of league 1.
This performance so far is better than under Wellens last season at Home Park.
And this is 1 million times better than anything under Shieridactyl.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:07:33
Great challenge Odimayo on his own.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:09:29
Interesting challenge from Dabre in the box there! could have gone either way.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:09:54
Dabre caught out of position and lucky not to give away a penalty


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:11:51
Great run and shot from Aguair, well saved.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:11:55
Nice feet Aguiar.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:12:29
McKirdy, Cowmeadow and one other coming on

Agular mazy run and shot beaten wide


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:13:47
Odimayo injured


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:13:51
Cowmeadow and McKirdy come on for Odimayo and Hunt.

Garrick comes on for Muff.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:14:18
Iandolo on for Lyden.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:14:47
Cowmeadow and McKirdy come on for Odimayo and Hunt.

Garrick comes on for Muff.
What position was 'Muff' playing?

PS Iandolo on too


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:15:13
Cowmeadow wins a corner for Town with a deflected shot.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:15:45
Cowmeadow's shot was grazed wide, sorry!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:16:20
Would love a goal for Moo.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:18:08
I bet Dabre is superb at 5 a-side


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:18:29
It would have been good if it landed udder the bar.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:18:47
Would love a goal for Moo.
And an udder one too!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:19:10
It would have been good if it landed udder the bar.
Milking it now!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:20:32
Milking it now!
You really think you are amoosing dont you? :D


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:21:47
And an udder one too!
I am suffering from deja moo.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:23:12
I am suffering from deja moo.
A pat on the back for that!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:23:51
Iandolo with a great long run with the ball but his final pass was really poor.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:24:17
Iandolo with a great long run with the ball but his final pass was really poor.

Which has been a bit of a pattern with him in recent times.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:24:53
2-1 JML


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:25:08
Very good goal from JML 2-1.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:25:17
Great throw from Ward. Great run from JML.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:25:41
Super finish low down from an angle. Assist from Ward!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:26:01
Great throw from Ward. Great run from JML.

Proper old skool keeping distribution that one


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:26:06
Great throw from Ward. Great run from JML.
Drop him for Wollacott?😎


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:26:31
Dabre has large elements of McKirdy about him, hes something very different.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:27:12
Dabre has large elements of McKirdy about him, hes somethign very different.
Speed and quick feet


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:27:38
Speed and quick feet
And tight close control, just needs to work on his final ball more.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:27:54
Has McKirdy had a touch yet?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:28:31
Dabre has large elements of McKirdy about him, hes something very different.

It's far too raw though - he is playing almost entirely on instinct mixed with good ball skills and pace.  I am not sure he has much idea how to play football though - if we can coach that into him he could be a real talent.  Great ide to throw him on for 10 minutes when chasing a game though - nobody has any idea what will happen.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:29:01
Must admit that I thought JML had lost control of the ball and lost the opportunity.

He's had 3 more runs since! Come to life! Or we have just noticed he's there.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:29:44
Garrick still has a poor touch a lot of the time I see.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:30:02
Must admit that I thought JML had lost control of the ball and lost the opportunity.

He's had 3 more runs since! Come to life! Or we have just noticed he's there.

I think he is playing further up as a starting position, he's taken the role Parsons was filling, I think.  He has certainly been on the shoulder a lot more this half and looked a pest.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:30:59
Has McKirdy had a touch yet?
He has now....gave away a throw in


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:31:32
He has now....gave away a throw in

Which he promptly claimed.  :D


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:31:47
It's far too raw though - he is playing almost entirely on instinct mixed with good ball skills and pace.  I am not sure he has much idea how to play football though - if we can coach that into him he could be a real talent.  Great ide to throw him on for 10 minutes when chasing a game though - nobody has any idea what will happen.
Oh I agree, he looks eager to please but not always sure what to do when he gets in good positions, very very raw but he does have potential and he will get the crowd going as McKirdy does if he came off the bench in the league at home especially for the last 10 mins of a game we are winning easily.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:32:29
Great shot from McKirdy from 25 yards curled onto the post.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:32:34
Blimey. Thatís a McKirdy moment.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:33:00
McKirdy!!! What a shot!!! Smacks the post with a curler from 30 yards!!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:33:10
That McKirdy strike was not just superb, he saw it as soon as he got the ball and was tempted to hit it first time but took a touch first then decided to do it again.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:34:12
That McKirdy strike was not just superb, he saw it as soon as he got the ball and was tempted to hit it first time but took a touch first then decided to do it again.
Yeah he looked up and considered hitting it before he actually did hit it, he knew exactly what he was doing.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:34:27
That McKirdy strike was not just superb, he saw it as soon as he got the ball and was tempted to hit it first time but took a touch first then decided to do it again.
Thought the same.

I so hope we can sign him for longer! Worth paying the admission fee to watch every time


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:34:53
3-1 McKirdy.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:35:05
3-1 McKirdy


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:35:16
Superb move. Crichlowís run was superb.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:35:24
I tell thee what, we have looked quite good this half regardless of the game, opposition or our players.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:35:31
What a fucking run from Crich must be 50 yards then a great pass to JML who crossed to McKirdy to score from 4 yards.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:36:25
Critchlow Strom run through the middle. Lays in JML down the left. JML puts it to an unmarked McKirdy in the middle of the 6 yard box. McKirdy side foots it in


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:36:37
Weíve ended up absolutely ruling this half. Very encouraging.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:37:29
Weíve ended up absolutely ruling this half. Very encouraging.
Against the L1 leaders who have a lot of first teamers playing tonight, very impressive.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:38:09
So impressive the type of football we are playing this year.

Very much enjoying this.

And the best thing is that you can see where each of the player can (and are likely) to improve.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:39:11
Cowmeadow hoofs it out


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Frigby Daser on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:40:04
So impressive the type of football we are playing this year.

Very much enjoying this.

And the best thing is that you can see where each of the player can (and are likely) to improve.

The opposite of what we were saying a month ago! Credit where it is due.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:40:48
The opposite of what we were saying a month ago! Credit where it is due.
Yep. Totally.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:40:57
Cowmeadow got scythed down there


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Super Hans on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:42:02
Pizza Cup or not you can't beat winning matches and playing well. I'm impressed.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:42:26
McKirdy is a thing of beauty at times


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:42:35
What a half for Mitchell Lawson! Love Dabre. East could play in the first XI no bother.

Aguiar is very skilful. Fuck me, we ainít half bad. Again, a distinct lack of pointless tippy tappy.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:42:41
Outch!

Assault on McKirdy


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:44:45
Nearly gave a goal away there


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:45:16
Mickey Mouse cup or not thats 3 wins in a row.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:47:29
Away wins, too.


Title: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:48:11
jml certainly grew into it.

that curler from mckirdy.. bloody hell.  so unlucky

enjoyed the second half despite the competition


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Super Hans on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:50:00
3 away games 8 scored 2 conceded.

Hopefully we can become as free scoring at home now.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: normy on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:50:39
Very enjoyable second half, several very good performances


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: brocklesby red on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:51:03
Well that was very enjoyable, JML and Critchlow were immense and McKirdy had a great cameo. All helps with confidence and shows weíve got plenty of cover through the squad


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:51:43
Good game that.

Ward did well and a great throw for the second goal.  Nice to have two good keepers.

Baudry is going to be risky against any teams with competent forwards - the second half suggests he may survive against lesser players though.

Dabre is a box of tricks - nobody probably knows how to use them yet, but worth keeping an eye on.

Mitchell-Lawson showed he can be a pain the backside if played in the right position.  I don't know that you can play him as a lone striker, but with someone else occupying people near him, he was a real danger in the second half playing on the last shoulder.

East could easily step into the first team and Lyden looked goo enough with fitness to come (hopefully).

Overall, a lot of promise.  Some rawness about the team tonight, but that is to be expected.  Iandolo still worries me in defence and we could do with another striking option with some presence/box instinct.  Overall, we are in pretty good shape considering the past year.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:54:25
Ended up winning convincingly. A few still some way off the first team - Dabre, Parsons - but Cowmeadow and Aguiar were encouraging in spells, JML much better second half, and Iíd put East ahead of Lyden on this showing. McKirdy is having a ball at the moment. Weíre getting up a head of (GWR) steam.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 19:59:12
I think I'd find it difficult to pick a MotM there. Thought it was a good team performance.

Energetic start then head dropped when we conceded. Confidence built after a couple of saves by Ward and a HT pep talk. Improved again in the second half and then looked awesome after the substitutions.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: cheltred69 on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:02:38
92nd minute winner for Arsenal kids means weíre not yet through to next round.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:02:53
Plymouth fans getting their excuses in

ĎNothing competition. Not bothered. Run out for the youngsters.í Playing against seasoned pros was my favourite!

Letís hope they pick themselves up for the weekend trip to the piss stains.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:05:44
Scott Lindsey:
- Want to create a winning environment
- Got minutes into players who haven't played much
- Chance to see them from a coaching perspective
- Played against a stronger team than we thought we'd face
- Played good football at a good intensity
- Spoke about making runs behind them at half time
- Great ball, run and finish
- Practice every eventuality in training. Try to teach how to work out teams and problem solve
- JML did what he's good at. Good pace and runs in behind. In first half we came too deep
- McKirdy: Exciting and makes things happen. Works hard. Please with him
- Really strong squad including younger players.
- There will be moments when we need these players
- Coming up a strong opposition is good
- Dabre is more of a winger than wing back. Can be done if you balance it up properly
- Dabre up against 200-300 game experience player did well
- Cowmeadow: Good to bring academy players in. Cowmeadow has done well in training
- Odimayo felt his hamstring a little
- Wollacot: No surprise he was in the Ghana team. He's a good keeper. Fair play to him
- Numbers back at the weekend. Will assess when they come back on Thursday
- Not surprised we have difficult decisions to make on Saturday.
- We have built a strong squad with competition for places


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:06:06
they're part right, but our kids still beat their kids


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: singingiiiffy on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:08:57
Plymouth fans getting their excuses in

ĎNothing competition. Not bothered. Run out for the youngsters.í Playing against seasoned pros was my favourite!

Letís hope they pick themselves up for the weekend trip to the piss stains.

I liked seeing these compared to when the lineups came out

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Really good team. Iím hoping for a win tonight to get back in contention to see if we can progress in this competition. If we were to go up this might be our only chance to win a trophy for a long time (hopefully).

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Law, Mayor, Randell, Camara, Edwards. They could do some damage if they 'click' couldn't they??

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Shows what I know... nothing!
Looks like we're going for the win

Well worth the tenner to watch. would never have done that the last few seasons but i like the way our C team can still play the same football and will generally be a good watch. Very nice for confidence and game time for those that aren't going to get a look in the first team for a while. some very good performances


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: adje on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:14:39
McKirdy.My favourite scruff since Steve Jenkins


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:15:28
McKirdy.My favourite scruff since Steve Jenkins

My favourite since Dave Bamber.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: hefty toe on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:16:10
Swindon's recruitment has been absolutely superb for this season.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:18:10
Jury may be out for some on Garner, but Ben Chorley seems to have done superbly.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Kinky Tom on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:23:50
Jury may be out for some on Garner, but Ben Chorley seems to have done superbly.

My take on Garnerball is that he knew we were behind on fitness so encouraged a very keep ball at all costs approach until we got up to full speed, we've now been pressing more and are looking to be more progressive with our passing.  Hope we continue to improve as the signs are good at the moment.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:25:05
My take on Garnerball is that he knew we were behind on fitness so encouraged a very keep ball at all costs approach until we got up to full speed, we've now been pressing more and are looking to be more progressive with our passing.  Hope we continue to improve as the signs are good at the moment.

Next test will be to see if we can do it at home.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 20:31:00
Jury may be out for some on Garner, but Ben Chorley seems to have done superbly.
I'm about 150 degrees through my 180 on Garner. A couple of convincing home performances will complete the U turn...


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Crozzer on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 21:22:05
McKirdy.My favourite scruff since Steve Jenkins

I saw Steve Jenkins score a goal, once.  I think McKirdy has scored more so far than Jenkins did for the Town.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 21:37:26
Excited about the win!!  any win is a good win...BUT i missed the last 2 goals because my fucking students think i need to educate them...what balls they have.  to expect me to teach during class is just asking too much  :D

hopefully this give the younger players confidence and continues to rebuild the club


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 21:42:56
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_693TSuGKw

Worth a watch if youíve not seen it or it has been posted already.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 21:51:44
And another.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNsGOhPmDGM


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 22:46:26
ifollow game replay?????

i am trying to watch the replay of the game today but it seems locked...does the current game stay locked for a period of time?  i have re-watched last saturday's game with no problem.
please let me know if you have advise.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 23:35:27
I've known it do that before but I don't know why. It should unlock eventually.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 00:16:29
the bender by McKirdy in the 81st minute was just sick! 


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 05:13:19
So, have we qualified for the knock out phase or not. Twitter seems to think yes.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 06:33:55
Don't think we're through yet.
Could come down to goal difference etc if 3 teams finish on 6 points.

As for the game, a good watch.
Very impressed with the overall performance, particularly when compared with some of the disjointed efforts by scratch teams in previous years.
That's credit to the coaching and possibly a benefit from working with a smaller squad.

Would like to see Dabre being gradually introduced at the end of games if we are coasting. No rush though if we stay in this competition.

Three cup games and undefeated in the 90 minutes. Whatever next.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 06:55:36
FA Cup draw on Sunday. Letís see if we can progress in that, too.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 08:06:40
Really underwhelmed by that McKirdy shot against the post, I'd much rather have seen it scuffed on target and make the keeper actually make a save. I don't watch football for all these nearly efforts.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 08:09:13
FA Cup draw on Sunday. Letís see if we can progress in that, too.

Oh come on, lets not run before we can walk....


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 08:10:53
Really underwhelmed by that McKirdy shot against the post, I'd much rather have seen it scuffed on target and make the keeper actually make a save. I don't watch football for all these nearly efforts.

Hello Stef  :bye: :D


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 08:11:23
Really underwhelmed by that McKirdy shot against the post, I'd much rather have seen it scuffed on target and make the keeper actually make a save. I don't watch football for all these nearly efforts.

 :clap:


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Tails on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 08:55:58
Don't think we're through yet.
Could come down to goal difference etc if 3 teams finish on 6 points.


Aren't Arse & Plymouth on 0? So they can't finish on 6.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 08:57:22
Aren't Arse & Plymouth on 0? So they can't finish on 6.


Arsenal won last night.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 09:51:47
I'm about 150 degrees through my 180 on Garner. A couple of convincing home performances will complete the U turn...
Ditto.

Improve the home form and play McKirdy at home to get the crowd going and maybe bring Dabre on if we are winning late in the game to just lighten the game up with his little devilry! that should be enough to get the crowd buzzing.

My concerns with "Garnerball" was that we were playing way too many short passes at the back and putting us under pointless pressure at the back, in the last 3 games that has stopped almost entirely, and also when McKirdy is on we have normally 3 proper attackers, when its just Simpson on his own we look less likely to score, although I think Simpson is very good hes much better with a player who plays closer to him.

Shit cup or not that was a decent performance against a strong side, Hardie on his own has more league goals in his career than all of our team combined have career goals, and Agard many many more, they also played some very experience players in Camara (crazy legs crane), Hardie, Agard, Mayor, Edwards, Wilson, and also Garrick also their "fringe players" had loads of experience too at league level Gillesphie, Burton,

We had just Baudry and Hunt that had more than 100 football league appearances in the entire side that started or finished the game!

Hello Stef  :bye: :D
:D


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 10:11:25
the bender by McKirdy in the 81st minute was just sick! 

He really is playing at full confidence at the moment.


Title: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 10:13:56
I think the muff commentary may be right,  he could be a feast or famine type player.

let's hope we are festivally plump come end December


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 10:16:40
Or it could be like a previous manager said ĎHe needs to be lovedí.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 10:48:05
I said it when he first came here, he reminds me of Jimmy Bullard.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 10:48:25
Or it could be like a previous manager said ĎHe needs to be lovedí.
I think this is more likely his personality.

Ward was on t'radio pre game talking about McKirdy, he was asked "what is it like to have McKirdy around the dressing room" to which Ward answered "it doesnt matter what personality he has off the pitch, its about what he does on the pitch that matters". Which sounded a bit like "I wont answer that question".


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 10:49:21
What we (and that includes the fans) have to learn from is Carlisle...


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 10:53:46
What we (and that includes the fans) have to learn from is Carlisle...
As we don't live in that part of the world please explain your comment for those of us who don't know the story :)

I know he wasnt settled at Carlisle but no idea why or what else went on.

I did find this.

https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/port-vales-rivals-defend-decision-4149574


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 11:08:13
And this from a Carlisle fan on their forum after they knew heíd signed for us

ĎWe all know that Harry is going to play at a higher level eventually and be worth a bit of money, he has the potential anyhow.

I only wish we had a manager like Simmo in at the time when he was with us, he would more likely have listened to him.

The right manager in Mckirdy's ear and he will fly.í


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 11:12:49
As we don't live in that part of the world please explain your comment for those of us who don't know the story :)

I know he wasnt settled at Carlisle but no idea why or what else went on.

Apol's thought it had been discussed on here before.

Basically he is a peculiar character that takes things very personally (as I think is common knowledge), at Carlisle the whole thing was exacerbated by the fans getting on his back after a couple of bad games which sped it all falling to bits.



Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 11:20:19
Apol's thought it had been discussed on here before.
It maye have and I may well have missed it :) cheers.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 11:21:46
It maye have and I may well have missed it :) cheers.

This doesn't cover the fan bit (think that was in the local rag in north Cumbria), but does give an insight into the wider issues at Carlisle. https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/port-vales-rivals-defend-decision-4149574


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 11:24:52
This doesn't cover the fan bit (think that was in the local rag in north Cumbria), but does give an insight into the wider issues at Carlisle. https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/port-vales-rivals-defend-decision-4149574
Thats the page I quoted above ;)


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 11:31:23
Thats the page I quoted above ;)

Ah so you did, did you edit your post or am I just fucking blind!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 11:32:41
Quote from: horlock07
What we (and that includes the fans) have to learn from is Carlisle...

the ones we met in the pub pre match basically said

"bags of talent, shame he's a total cunt who only cares if Chelsea won.. even straight after playing in a loss".
---
personally think he's only 24 now, a good age to start growing up a bit at "work" if it's needed.

he's been bloody brilliant last 3 games. Long may it continue


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 11:33:45
the ones we met in the pub pre match basically said

"bags of talent, shame he's a total cunt who only cares if Chelsea won.. even straight after playing in a loss".
---
personally think he's only 24 now, a good age to start growing up a bit at "work" if it's needed.

he's been bloody brilliant last 3 games. Long may it continue

Probably because Chelsea are having such a good season! ;)


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 11:34:16
Ah so you did, did you edit your post or am I just fucking blind!
I added it literally 2 mins after I posted as I googled that but not changed it for 20 mins!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 11:38:28
I added it literally 2 mins after I posted as I googled that but not changed it for 20 mins!

Ah that will be it, I started replying but the the phone went and I only fished the reply after that.

Although I accept that I am known for missing what is literally in front of me!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: normy on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 12:00:51
I love the way that Garnerball has permeated through to the backup players, judging by this impressive win.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: swindonmaniac on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 12:56:14
Probably because Chelsea are having such a good season! ;)
So are we and long may it continue - especially with McKirdys current form.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Moss on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 13:46:34
I said it when he first came here, he reminds me of Jimmy Bullard.

That's a bit below the belt, Jimmy Bullard is an absolute cunt.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 14:03:50
Reading about McKirdy, he seems like an very talented but yet emotional player.   Right now it seems like he has found a home that he is accepted and thriving in but often with players like this it can turn quickly.  But maybe the coach just knows how to reach him.  in american football, coaches like Bilicheck get those players that have had issues elsewhere to buy in and just want to win with the team..hopefully this is the case at Swindon, I like the way McKirdy plays


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 14:51:22
the bender by McKirdy in the 81st minute was just sick! 

Curler, mate. Bender is slang for homosexual.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 15:05:27
 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Mind you, curler is slang for a freshly laid turd


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 15:10:40
Fair point. But everytime Godd posts I can't help but think of the Boston Goals sketch off Soccer AM


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 15:43:54
Curler, mate. Bender is slang for homosexual.

You should try telling staff over here that you pulled together the analysis on the back of a fag packet.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Tails on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 15:46:44
Curler, mate. Bender is slang for homosexual.

The Arizona Cardinals recently tweeted about their QB being a bender. Made me laugh a lot.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 15:53:21
Curler, mate. Bender is slang for homosexual.

I see...this is good information....not the same here in the states.

so if a player hits a "curler" with their outside foot, we call it a banana


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 15:53:22
The Arizona Cardinals recently tweeted about their QB being a bender. Made me laugh a lot.

What does bender mean in Yankee language?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 15:55:34
What does bender mean in Yankee language?

I guess this is for me??? in soccer that is "bending" the ball with curve....

it also means going to some place like Vegas and drinking for many days.... "Bob went on a bender this weekend"


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 15:55:57
Fair point. But everytime Godd posts I can't help but think of the Boston Goals sketch off Soccer AM

is this a TV show?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 15:56:34
You should try telling staff over here that you pulled together the analysis on the back of a fag packet.

Those are cigarettes, correct?  why are cigarettes called "Fags"?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 15:59:13
When I was in high school, me and about 7 other teammates went to a soccer camp at the Naval Academy in Maryland.
this is about 1100 miles away .   anyway, while we were there we were basically zoo animals for the other players...they would ask us if we had indians (feather on head kind) still in Nebraska.  They asked if we still used outhouses for the toilet.  all of this was in earnest. 

this is what i feel like again  :D :D :D



Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 16:00:29
I guess this is for me??? in soccer that is "bending" the ball with curve....

it also means going to some place like Vegas and drinking for many days.... "Bob went on a bender this weekend"

I know about the term to go on a bender, but why would a QB be described as a "bender"? It doesn't seem to fit either of those phrases?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 16:01:18
Those are cigarettes, correct?  why are cigarettes called "Fags"?

yeah they are cigarettes, not a clue as to why they are known as fags, Dr Google or Susie Dent would be your best bet :)

According to a random site I found after a quick Alta Vista search..........

'Hand rolled cigarettes often have loose strands of tobacco sticking out of the end. These were thought to resemble the cut, and frayed end of a piece of rope, called the fag-end. Cigarettes were therefore referred to as fag ends, quickly shortened to fags.'


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 16:07:16
When I was in high school, me and about 7 other teammates went to a soccer camp at the Naval Academy in Maryland.
this is about 1100 miles away .   anyway, while we were there we were basically zoo animals for the other players...they would ask us if we had indians (feather on head kind) still in Nebraska.  They asked if we still used outhouses for the toilet.  all of this was in earnest. 

this is what i feel like again  :D :D :D



The language in the 2 countries, despite both English speaking can be very different.

I remember in Florida I popped into a shop to pick up a few bits of food etc but I left a bag and went back and said I had left 'a bag of shopping' in the store from earlier. The assistant looked at me as if I had 2 heads. 'Your what?' she said. 'my shopping, in a bag' I replied. I had to translate this to 'groceries' before she knew what I was talking about.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 16:13:47
I know about the term to go on a bender, but why would a QB be described as a "bender"? It doesn't seem to fit either of those phrases?
\

i am not sure...i tried to find the tweet but no luck..i would have to read it


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 16:16:30
The language in the 2 countries, despite both English speaking can be very different.

I remember in Florida I popped into a shop to pick up a few bits of food etc but I left a bag and went back and said I had left 'a bag of shopping' in the store from earlier. The assistant looked at me as if I had 2 heads. 'Your what?' she said. 'my shopping, in a bag' I replied. I had to translate this to 'groceries' before she knew what I was talking about.


Teaching high school students, sometimes our american english still is very different than their american english...bunch of dumb asses!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 16:25:52
It's quite fun - the reality is that most of American English is actually Ye Olde English and it hasn't evolved in the same way as traditional English (misnomer alert) has.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Hunk on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 17:50:54
https://youtu.be/LAdNOyeMNLw

Rather funny way of explaining the difficulties inherit in the accent differences, if not the parlance per se


Title: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 18:04:22
If a UK student, even a younger one, asked you for a rubber, you wouldn't be shocked.

also

https://youtu.be/om7O0MFkmpw (https://youtu.be/om7O0MFkmpw)


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 18:13:40
is this a TV show?

Soccer AM was a fairly popular saturday morning show. Not sure if it's still going. Yeah we use bender to mean go out drinking on a mad one too.

Boston Goals (I doubt you'll find it as funny as I do though):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6l4lT00Pgs


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 18:17:14
Soccer AM was a fairly popular saturday morning show. Not sure if it's still going. Yeah we use bender to mean go out drinking on a mad one too.

Boston Goals (I doubt you'll find it as funny as I do though):
I used to love Soccer AM and yes it is still going as I saw some on Saturday pre game, its shit now!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 18:22:12
Soccer AM was a fairly popular saturday morning show. Not sure if it's still going. Yeah we use bender to mean go out drinking on a mad one too.

Boston Goals (I doubt you'll find it as funny as I do though):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6l4lT00Pgs

Iíve never seen that before - itís ace  :D


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Benzel on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 19:10:41
Yeah Boston Goals was way better than the more recent Brad Bobley sketches

Sent from my CLT-L09


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: ibelieveinmrreeves on Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 21:17:45
Jamaican international Anthony Grant in that Wycombe team (along with Tommy Mooney and Dany N'Guessan for Boston).


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, October 14, 2021, 05:59:26
Yeah, I recognised Grant from that first tasty challenge. He hasn't changed :)


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Tails on Thursday, October 14, 2021, 08:49:38
What does bender mean in Yankee language?

It was in reference to him being an airbender I think (There's a kids tv show called The Last Airbender) because of a celebration he did... But they just referred to him as a bender and I am very immature so found it very funny!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, October 14, 2021, 10:38:56
TBH back in the 70s and early 80s everyone called a curling shot a "bender" even though it has always had a double meaning, When Swansea came to the CG in 1980 they had a huge banner which said "Alan Curtis bends more balls than Jeremy Thorpe" in reference to the gay allegations about ex MP Jeremy Thorpe at the time but also to Curtis's ability to curl a football.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, October 14, 2021, 10:51:17
Allegations! He was a self confessed player of the pink oboe - as told by Peter Cook.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, October 14, 2021, 10:53:58
Allegations! He was a self confessed player of the pink oboe - as told by Peter Cook.
At the time the game took place they were still allegations ;)


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Bogus Dave on Thursday, October 14, 2021, 11:23:01
it makes me laugh when Americans poke fun at British-English, and then have names like Ďcregí or Ďgramí (not aimed at godders, unless his real name is Craig or graham)

Worst confusion I ever had was asking where I could buy a torch whilst at the Grand Canyon, led to some alarmed faces from the woman behind the till



Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Crispy on Thursday, October 14, 2021, 11:40:07
The Arizona Cardinals recently tweeted about their QB being a bender. Made me laugh a lot.

K1 - Airbender and MVP.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Thursday, October 14, 2021, 14:41:30
it makes me laugh when Americans poke fun at British-English, and then have names like Ďcregí or Ďgramí (not aimed at godders, unless his real name is Craig or graham)

"Wooo I love Pattys Day, I'm Irish. My name is Gram Creg", said Mr Graham Craig, American with fully Scottish name and ancestry.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Tails on Thursday, October 14, 2021, 14:47:12
K1 - Airbender and MVP.

TBC on the latter although I love watching him run around with his tiny body and massive head!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, October 14, 2021, 15:04:35
Just had a look in on the Plymouth forum. Thereís a clamour for our No. 5. I automatically thought that was Critchlow - but itís Baudry! They thought he was brilliant and would make a great LB!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, October 14, 2021, 15:09:36
Just had a look in on the Plymouth forum. Thereís a clamour for our No. 5. I automatically thought that was Critchlow - but itís Baudry! They thought he was brilliant and would make a great LB!
They must be mistaken. Baudry is predominantly right footed. Whereas Circh is only left footed.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, October 14, 2021, 15:10:30
Just had a look in on the Plymouth forum. Thereís a clamour for our No. 5. I automatically thought that was Critchlow - but itís Baudry! They thought he was brilliant and would make a great LB!

I'm sure we could come to some sort of agreement.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, October 14, 2021, 15:18:19
Just had a look in on the Plymouth forum. Thereís a clamour for our No. 5. I automatically thought that was Critchlow - but itís Baudry! They thought he was brilliant and would make a great LB!

Crichlow was number 5. 100%


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: ibelieveinmrreeves on Thursday, October 14, 2021, 19:34:30
Baudry is 6. There's even a thread with squad numbers...


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Thursday, October 14, 2021, 22:11:43
I am not a number, Iím a free man.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: ron dodgers on Thursday, October 14, 2021, 23:50:03
Can I bum a fag please?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, November 3, 2021, 10:03:01
Well apparently with Plymouth drawing and winning on pens last night means we have progressed to the 2nd round proper of this tournament even before our game with Newport next Tuesday.

The 1st time we have reached the 2nd stage since 2017.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, November 3, 2021, 10:55:23
yay. let's win it. the cash will be handy

I'm with Yoda, either do, or do not.

still won't go mind :)


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Wednesday, November 3, 2021, 11:35:24
Winning in any game will just boost confidence and cohesion for the team....

I say take home the golden pepperoni trophy.....

there is a trophy right??



Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, November 3, 2021, 11:38:35
Winning in any game will just boost confidence and cohesion for the team....

I say take home the golden pepperoni trophy.....

there is a trophy right??
(https://www.tranmererovers.co.uk/siteassets/pjtrelease.png)


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Wednesday, November 3, 2021, 11:40:25
Swindon Town FC 2022 winners :pint:


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, November 3, 2021, 15:11:25
Pizza cake  :toocool:


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Miles Mayhem on Wednesday, November 3, 2021, 15:23:34
Winning in any game will just boost confidence and cohesion for the team....

I say take home the golden pepperoni trophy.....

there is a trophy right??



Just a giant pizza instead.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, November 3, 2021, 15:28:33
They could have been creative and had a shield/pizza tray.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, November 3, 2021, 15:30:12
Presented in a large cardboard box, delivered to the half way line on a moped.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Wednesday, November 3, 2021, 15:46:27
Presented in a large cardboard box, delivered to the half way line on a moped.

Looking absolutely fuck all like it does on the menu board


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, November 3, 2021, 15:47:47
Well apparently with Plymouth drawing and winning on pens last night means we have progressed to the 2nd round proper of this tournament even before our game with Newport next Tuesday.

The 1st time we have reached the 2nd stage since 2017.
Didnít the piss stains do for us that time. When that Jock scrote got Vigs sent off.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Wednesday, November 3, 2021, 17:52:43
Winning in any game will just boost confidence and cohesion for the team....

I say take home the golden pepperoni trophy.....

there is a trophy right??



Agree 100% and yes.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Wednesday, November 3, 2021, 17:53:56
Shame we still have to play Newport


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Wednesday, November 3, 2021, 18:15:33
Shame we still have to play Newport

You say that, Iíd say it is a good deal we have to play them, think about the opportunity to dick around with the squad to give game time and also tic tacs.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Wednesday, November 3, 2021, 18:16:42
Maybe :nod:


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Wednesday, November 3, 2021, 20:54:21
(https://www.tranmererovers.co.uk/siteassets/pjtrelease.png)


A golden pepperoni 🍕 would have looked better.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Wednesday, November 3, 2021, 20:56:21
Looking absolutely fuck all like it does on the menu board


 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: swindonmaniac on Wednesday, November 3, 2021, 21:03:36
Maybe shreck was stood next to it when the flash went off.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Monday, November 8, 2021, 19:00:24
I feel like with the Crawley game postponed, this game just got a lot more interesting.....my saturday is fucked now btw....



Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: swindonmaniac on Monday, November 8, 2021, 19:05:17
I feel like with the Crawley game postponed, this game just got a lot more interesting.....my saturday is fucked now btw....


Why ??, It's still a shite tournament.  Not many people interested in the UK.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 01:59:03
Why ??, It's still a shite tournament.  Not many people interested in the UK.


So a no match on Saturday is still better than a match in a shit tourney?? That is crazy.  This team needs to continue to develop. Ant competition is important. 


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: normy on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 07:16:02
I'm looking forward to watching it, I enjoyed the football and development shown in the previous rounds.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 07:33:39
I'm interested as well because it's a game involving STFC and I want to see who plays, where they play and how we perform. And hopefully we win because winning is a very good habit.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 07:46:08

So a no match on Saturday is still better than a match in a shit tourney?? That is crazy.  This team needs to continue to develop. Ant competition is important. 

Even before this competition became controversial (well, a bit of a farce if we're being honset) it wasn't usually taken seriously until you got towards the latter stages (which we've only done... twice IIRC, one final and one 'area' final). That hasn't really changed! It's just a chance for some reserves to get a run out.

Tonight's game is a moot point though. We've already qualified out of the group so the result doesn't really matter all that much.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 08:19:27
Whatís the chances of seeing Grant tonight?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 08:43:53
Whatís the chances of seeing Grant tonight?

Heís away with Jamaica mate, isnít he?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 09:01:06
They all gone already?

I want to see Taank play tonight


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 09:07:19
They all gone already?

I want to see Taank play tonight

Believe so.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RedRag on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 09:14:46
Like the old Football Combination, this is an opportunity for stiffs, yooves and returners from injury to get up to speed and gel with a handful of first team automatic choices with our style and systems.  A step up from a friendly behind closed doors or regular training.  So both useful and interesting.

Would any cards tonight have a bearing on suspensions in any other competitions?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 09:24:34
Nope


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RedRag on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 09:31:37
Thanks.

Priorities then:

1.  avoid injuries
2.  develop fitness and performance as required
3.  get a "home win"

In that order.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: dphunt88 on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 09:52:23
In midfield and forward areas, we have an array of fringe-talent who are a shoe-in for tonight's game...

CM - Ryan East and Jordan Lyden
AM/Wing - Alex Gilbert and Mo Dabre
FOR - Jayden Mitchell-Lawson and Harry Parsons

But much less so at the back...

I'd be loathe to play Conroy at all - we've already got Crichlow and Baudry out injured - and at a push, you might have to use Odimayo and Rob Hunt tonight to form a functioning defence. Something like:

Harrison Minturn (U18) - Akin Odimayo - Anthony Grant (available??) - Rob Hunt


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 10:00:06
Can Ricky Aguiar play for us tonight?

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Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 10:14:22
In midfield and forward areas, we have an array of fringe-talent who are a shoe-in for tonight's game...

CM - Ryan East and Jordan Lyden
AM/Wing - Alex Gilbert and Mo Dabre
FOR - Jayden Mitchell-Lawson and Harry Parsons

But much less so at the back...

I'd be loathe to play Conroy at all - we've already got Crichlow and Baudry out injured - and at a push, you might have to use Odimayo and Rob Hunt tonight to form a functioning defence. Something like:

Harrison Minturn (U18) - Akin Odimayo - Anthony Grant (available??) - Rob Hunt
Isnít Minturn built like a brick shithouse? Cowmeadow and Taank tonight, please.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 10:28:08
Minturn is a well built lad for his age, i have seen him play a fair few times and against players of his own age he looks commanding. Big step up though.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: dphunt88 on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 10:38:27
Can Ricky Aguiar play for us tonight?

Sent from my XQ-AD51

Think we'd have to formally end his loan at Chippenham Town, which has about a week left to run on the initial month, for him to play tonight. And don't think they'll do that when he's doing so well at Chipp and we've already got loads of midfielders who can play tonight.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: dphunt88 on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 10:41:10
Isnít Minturn built like a brick shithouse? Cowmeadow and Taank tonight, please.

Minturn's a decent size, yes. Think people look at the fully developed facial hair and get tricked into thinking he's more of a beast that he is...?

Anyway, hope he gets a go. Why not find out about him tonight? Venkman's right though, huge step up, even to a professional reserve game like this - good luck to him.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 10:54:48
Minturn is a well built lad for his age, i have seen him play a fair few times and against players of his own age he looks commanding. Big step up though.

Cowmeadow looks quite well built as well doesn't he? I was surprised when I saw him at Plymouth as our youth prospects are usually all built like plastic straws, and small ones at that.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: dphunt88 on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 11:06:05
Cowmeadow looks quite well built as well doesn't he? I was surprised when I saw him at Plymouth as our youth prospects are usually all built like plastic straws, and small ones at that.

Yes, Cowmeadow a good height and build, handy for a wide-forward. Sadly, I think Cowmeadow is injured for tonight - he limped off early in the FA Youth Cup win against Winchester City last week.

Suspect we might see a bit of midfielder Levi Francis off the bench tonight. Doesn't matter who you're playing, three goals from midfield is always going to catch the eye!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 11:22:24
Yes, Cowmeadow a good height and build, handy for a wide-forward. Sadly, I think Cowmeadow is injured for tonight - he limped off early in the FA Youth Cup win against Winchester City last week.

Suspect we might see a bit of midfielder Levi Francis off the bench tonight. Doesn't matter who you're playing, three goals from midfield is always going to catch the eye!

Yeah saw that hat trick. I assumed Francis was a striker so even more impressive a hat trick from midfield. I might tune in to tonight's game.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 11:33:17
Not sure Minturn can really do a job for us, what with him being 120 years old....

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/teams/first-team/midfielder/harrison-minturn/


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 12:04:04
As weíve already qualified, if we win tonight we obviously win the group but because of that are guaranteed to be at home in the next round.

Better off losing?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: THE FLASH on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 12:20:51
Boycott for me.

Good luck to anybody that goes though.

Hopefully no injuries and some fringers get a run out.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 13:33:28
I reckon this is a decent price



Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 13:46:19
Isnít Minturn built like a brick shithouse? Cowmeadow and Taank tonight, please.
If Taank isn't built like one that would be disappointing to say the least......


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 16:48:35
A reminder that ko is at 7:00 pm tonight


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Pericardinho on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 17:47:59
Do I buy the game on Ifollow...

It's so utterly pointless but I quite honestly have nothing better to do than have another look at the fringe players.

Anybody else in the same boat?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 17:51:00
Swindon Town STARTING XI 👥 | Ward, Lyden (C), McKirdy, Mitchell-Lawson, Gilbert, Hunt, East, Parsons, Dabre, Minturn, Winchcombe.

SUBS - Mildenhall, Gordon, Francis, Dworzak, Fox, Wynn-Davis, Afenyo.

#STFC 🔴⚪️ https://t.co/VZHnDAUPn4


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 17:52:46
Am I a bad fan? I havenít heard of most of those subs.

Really looking forward to seeing Dabre again. And Winchcombe - whoever he is.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 17:53:40
It's Mildenhall I didnt recognise😀


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 17:58:11
at least one or two are u18s that played in the pre season friendlies when we didn't have a team.

nice for them to be involved


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 18:02:20
No Taaank or Cowmeadow!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 18:03:08
Canít beat a team with no recognised CBs! Sensible move.

Missilou starts for them.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 18:06:30
Minturn isn't going to be particularly mobile at his age!

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/teams/first-team/midfielder/harrison-minturn/


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 18:11:34
quicker than Pittman though


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 18:13:38
quicker than Pittman though
Goes without saying! Even at 121 years old!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 18:24:05
Now this is a proper paint pot trophy team.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 18:26:06
Has ifollow started yet?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: newmarket red on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 18:27:31
Swindon Town STARTING XI 👥 | Ward, Lyden (C), McKirdy, Mitchell-Lawson, Gilbert, Hunt, East, Parsons, Dabre, Minturn, Winchcombe.

SUBS - Mildenhall, Gordon, Francis, Dworzak, Fox, Wynn-Davis, Afenyo.

#STFC 🔴⚪️ https://t.co/VZHnDAUPn4
Afenyo i guess from the academy  aswell. :hmmm:


Title: Re: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 18:34:10
Minturn isn't going to be particularly mobile at his age!

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/teams/first-team/midfielder/harrison-minturn/
Not sure Minturn can really do a job for us, what with him being 120 years old....

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/teams/first-team/midfielder/harrison-minturn/

Is there an echo in here.... 😉

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Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: cheltred69 on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 18:54:44
Proper old school reserve team fixture tonight.
Newport starting with all 9 of the bench from their FA cup match and none of their starters from their last 2 games in their squad.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:00:10
Hardly surprising they're away at Hartlepool on Friday night


Title: Re: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:03:55
Proper old school reserve team fixture tonight.
Newport starting with all 9 of the bench from their FA cup match and none of their starters from their last 2 games in their squad.
Don't you get clobbered for putting out a piss take team?

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Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:04:48
Is there an echo in here.... 😉

Sent from my SM-A125F
Sorry. I'm an adult and work during the day! 😁


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: normy on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:05:40
We're pinging it about quite well


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:06:15
Proper old school reserve team fixture tonight.
Newport starting with all 9 of the bench from their FA cup match and none of their starters from their last 2 games in their squad.
Including one of our 'star' midfielders from last year! 💩


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:08:24
Never seen that before!

Ref gives a penalty for taking ball off of Lydens toe

Then realises he's made a mistake so gives a drop ball.

McKirdy then goes ape shit that we haven't got a penalty


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:09:08
not a smart foul for a card


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:10:08
Never seen that before!

Ref gives a penalty for taking ball off of Lydens toe

Then realises he's made a mistake so gives a drop ball.

McKirdy then goes ape shit that we haven't got a penalty

I think the Ref had pre-empted what he thought was about to happen and blew up with that instinct in mind, despite the fact it didn't happen and the keeper had got the ball cleanly.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:14:19
Hairy McClaryís treating this like a Cup Final.  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:14:53
23 mins and I've just noticed Jermaine Hilton is playing!

Nothing changes!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nijholts Nuts on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:15:44
I'd rather listen to Phil Smith commenting on STFC in the piss Paint pot trophy than watch any Champions League match , ever.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:16:34
We'll be lucky to get through the game without conceding.  The back five and keeper look like they are inexperienced.



Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:16:41
Parsons gives away freekick at edge of area.

Curled across 6 yard box and evades everyone.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:17:23
I'd rather listen to Phil Smith commenting on STFC in the piss Paint pot trophy than watch any Champions League match , ever.
Is this not the Champions League?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:18:34
i have noticed that the 1st team defense and then again right now really struggle with the balls sent across, especially those on set plays....is it a philosophy issue to defense or is it poor training on how to put your foot on the ball and get it out of the box?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:19:41
Think Newport have realised we are a team of midget midfielders, a moany forward and a giant keeper

They are in the ascendancy!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:21:37
Think Newport have realised we are a team of midget midfielders, a moany forward and a giant keeper

They are in the ascendancy!

To be fair, they have a 42 year old up front and we have a 19 year old forward playing right back.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:22:13
i have noticed that the 1st team defense and then again right now really struggle with the balls sent across, especially those on set plays....is it a philosophy issue to defense or is it poor training on how to put your foot on the ball and get it out of the box?
It's because of the lack of height in our defence. If you have someone who is going to win everything in the air you can afford to defend a bit deeper


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:22:44
JML takes a dive in the area . Gets nowt


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:23:20
Gilbert tries a curler from 25 yards which goes just wide.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:28:22
Pinball in our box.

Dabre brings it out. Lyden goes in with a strong challenge where both players end up on the floor. Surprisingly, Lyden get up and the other fella looks to be limping - Would have put money on it being the other way

JML shot from edge of the box - Wide and he was offside


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:31:25
It's not 0-0 thanks to a defensive masterclass by either team thus far.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:32:00
Not enough composure from JML there. It wasnít a difficult chance.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:32:43
Great ball from Parsons unleashes McKirdy, who puts a poor ball in to JML, which inexplicably gets to him (missed by 2 defenders). JML takes a touch and drags it wide to the left of goal. McKirdy bollocks him for not laying it back to him where he had an open goal beckoning him.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:33:22
It's not 0-0 thanks to a defensive masterclass by either team thus far.
Nope. 0-0 due to lack of composure and lack of ability.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:33:46
its only a matter of time hopefully that Mckirdy gets free behind the defense and puts one in


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:34:05
Its like a 5 a side game on a big pitch.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:34:43
Nope. 0-0 due to lack of composure and lack of ability.

Lack of match sharpness would be a kinder interpretation.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:35:04
Great ball from Parsons unleashes McKirdy, who puts a poor ball in to JML, which inexplicably gets to him (missed by 2 defenders). JML takes a touch and drags it wide to the left of goal. McKirdy bollocks him for not laying it back to him where he had an open goal beckoning him.


JML just got excited like a teenage boy touching his first tit and shot off a little early  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:35:09
its only a matter of time hopefully that Mckirdy gets free behind the defense and puts one in
McKirdy is equally exciting as he is frustrating.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:35:57
McKirdy is equally exciting as he is frustrating.

he is fun to watch, he goes all out but bitches way too much.....


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:36:11
Good save from Ward.

Cross from left, headed straight above Ward. Tipped over .

Corner wasted


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:36:52
I like seeing JML up top working with him...i like the speed...its a good thing to have a game like this to give him experience in case he is called on.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:37:18
0-0 Thank God! Dire first half


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:37:53
will they address the issue with the back line in January?  from what I have gathered, there is a trade or player acquisition during that time?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:38:07
I like seeing JML up top working with him...i like the speed...its a good thing to have a game like this to give him experience in case he is called on.
JML is not a league footballer.

An athlete, yes.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:39:07
JML is not a league footballer.

An athlete, yes.

don't think he will develop?  who else is there then beside simpson and mckirdy?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:39:59
will they address the issue with the back line in January?  from what I have gathered, there is a trade or player acquisition during that time?
Doubt it. Think they feel they have got what they need for the time being.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:40:03
FUCK....my last class is about to start...fuck em....they can work on shit on their own....i have a match to watch!!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:40:15
Well, that confirmed that Missilou is a fucking donkey.

Not much to get excited about. Dabre has the annoying habit of winning the ball - then giving it straight away.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:40:36
JML will never be a striker. Tbh that wasnt that bad imo, we watched far far worse last season under Sheridactyl and Wellens even.

The makeshift defence seem to be doing ok so far all things considered.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:40:48
Doubt it. Think they feel they have got what they need for the time being.

the defense seems very suspect no matter who is playing when there are set plays, corners, crossing balls in general


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:40:52
Well, I don't really know what to make of that.  I think it was bad, maybe terrible in terms of standard/quality, but it was actually mildly enjoyable to watch.

You can't be too harsh on the youngsters, but you'd be worried if any of the defenders had to play regular first team football anytime soon on that showing.

McKirdy has not been informed of the pointlessness of it all.

Of everyone on show, Gilbert has disappointed me - I'd like him to have taken this as an opportunity to show his wares off a bit.  He's been a bit off the pace, but should have more talent then everyone else on show - which he has shown in little glimpses.

JML has something - he makes good runs, but has fluffed a couple of finishes even if one was offside.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:42:50
Well, I don't really know what to make of that.  I think it was bad, maybe terrible in terms of standard/quality, but it was actually mildly enjoyable to watch.

You can't be too harsh on the youngsters, but you'd be worried if any of the defenders had to play regular first team football anytime soon on that showing.

McKirdy has not been informed of the pointlessness of it all.

Of everyone on show, Gilbert has disappointed me - I'd like him to have taken this as an opportunity to show his wares off a bit.  He's been a bit off the pace, but should have more talent then everyone else on show - which he has shown in little glimpses.

JML has something - he makes good runs, but has fluffed a couple of finishes even if one was offside.

I agree about Gilbert...i am not aware of him much so was waiting to see what someone else said...he seems very content just to hang out and not get too involved.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:43:27
don't think he will develop?  who else is there then beside simpson and mckirdy?
Nope. Normally you can see good players have that little bit of something about them - Not just athleticism. JML doesn't have height, strength, composure, trickery or vision. He has athleticism.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:44:07
With Crawley being postponed, the next game is Newport again???

Is McKirdy playing hard since he has to sit out of that game, correct?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:45:54
Nope. Normally you can see good players have that little bit of something about them - Not just athleticism. JML doesn't have height, strength, composure, trickery or vision. He has athleticism.

how does the team deal with this then if they make the same conclusion?  do they release him at some point and try to get someone else to develop?  do they just leave him on a lower team...how does a football team deal with a player they have deemed not worth continuing with.  Can you pick up another player at any time or is there certain times of the season?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:47:04
Well, I don't really know what to make of that.  I think it was bad, maybe terrible in terms of standard/quality, but it was actually mildly enjoyable to watch.

You can't be too harsh on the youngsters, but you'd be worried if any of the defenders had to play regular first team football anytime soon on that showing.

McKirdy has not been informed of the pointlessness of it all.

Of everyone on show, Gilbert has disappointed me - I'd like him to have taken this as an opportunity to show his wares off a bit.  He's been a bit off the pace, but should have more talent then everyone else on show - which he has shown in little glimpses.

JML has something - he makes good runs, but has fluffed a couple of finishes even if one was offside.
Lots of people playing out of position which doesn't help. Would prefer to see Parsons up front with McKirdy. Also, Dabre at left back - not his best position me thinks.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:47:29
I think they believe they can coach one or two of those traits into him, in which case you have an asset.  Tough though, but was a free hit for us really. (JML this is)


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:48:19
how does the team deal with this then if they make the same conclusion?  do they release him at some point and try to get someone else to develop?  do they just leave him on a lower team...how does a football team deal with a player they have deemed not worth continuing with.  Can you pick up another player at any time or is there certain times of the season?
The manager thinks he has something. Football is a game of opinions.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:49:05
With Crawley being postponed, the next game is Newport again???

Is McKirdy playing hard since he has to sit out of that game, correct?
Assume so.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:49:51
Dabre is not a left back, left wing back, winger, forward, midfielder, anything.  He's a 5-aside talent, a street footballer if you like.  Needs a lot of refining to get a position sorted, but full of talent.  A similar but different problem that JML brings - how do you teach him the missing bits?  Dabre is great with a football, just not sure he is great at football.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:52:22
so are we up by 1-0, 2-0 if this is an away game?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:54:17
Some ridiculously harsh judgments on kids in a reserve game here. I don't know who pissed in all your Horlicks but I'm enjoying this.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:55:37
Is Mr. Strickland newport's striker? 


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:55:43
Some ridiculously harsh judgments on kids in a reserve game here. I don't know who pissed in all your Horlicks but I'm enjoying this.

I did say it was enjoyable - I do think that is because both teams are low on the quality side of things though.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:57:33
2068 (57) att I think


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Hunk on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 19:58:50
will they address the issue with the back line in January?  from what I have gathered, there is a trade or player acquisition during that time?

Itís called the ĎTransfer Windowí. Itís where you can trade players that are already attached to a team. You can pay money to the club if they are willing to do business (a transfer fee), get the player for free (if they are about to become out of contract or itís a mutual decision between all involved), or on a loan (have this player for a while but he belongs to us and we can have him back whenever we want). But the most important terminology in this whole thing is ĎWHEN THE TRANSFER WINDOW SLAMS SHUTí which is exclaimed loudly from the rooftops by every tabloid as the transfer deadline looms. I think Iíve got all that right


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:00:11
I did say it was enjoyable - I do think that is because both teams are low on the quality side of things though.

There was plenty of good sharp passing in the first half. But it was more the summary judgments I saw on young players' career prospects based on no more than a few sub appearances at most.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:00:35
2068 (57) att I think

To be fair that's a decent crowd.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:00:39
Itís called the ĎTransfer Windowí. Itís where you can trade players that are already attached to a team. You can pay money to the club if they are willing to do business (a transfer fee), get the player for free (if they are about to become out of contract or itís a mutual decision between all involved), or on a loan (have this player for a while but he belongs to us and we can have him back whenever we want). But the most important terminology in this whole thing is ĎWHEN THE TRANSFER WINDOW SLAMS SHUTí which is exclaimed loudly from the rooftops by every tabloid as the transfer deadline looms. I think Iíve got all that right

and for reasons unknown, everything has to be sent to the Football League via Fax Machine


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:02:37
and for reasons unknown, everything has to be sent to the Football League via Fax Machine

English football seems very complex in structure.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:03:08
Having said all that, who's supposed to be our LB where they keep running into acres of space?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:04:43
English football seems very complex in structure.

Says the man living in a Country where everyone still sends cheques (checks) - I find it funny that my bank has invested in a fancy bit of their App that allows me to take a photo of a cheque to deposit, but struggles to allow me to just get money moved around/paid electronically.

Goal.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:05:16
Lost my stream....Came back just in time.

1-0 Lyden

JML cuts in from left wing. Shoots. Keeper beats it away. Lyden scores from middle of the goal.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:07:22
Having said all that, who's supposed to be our LB where they keep running into acres of space?

Dabre - he just raced off to close down their centre back.  Full of beans, not so much football knowledge........yet.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:09:53
Dabre - he just raced off to close down their centre back.  Full of beans, not so much football knowledge........yet.

Yep. To be fair, youíve called that before. He needs a lot of talking through the game to hold his position. 


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:13:42
Sorry if itís been said, but how fucking old is Kevin Ellison now?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:13:58
Parsons whips in cross from right
. Noone there. Comes out to Dabre on left of box who takes a heavy touch and loses it. Ball comes out to Gilbert, who turns his man and shoots.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:14:27
had to deal with students and missed the goal....

it was Gilbert who made the initial penetrations correct?  If so I re-track my earlier criticism....that was very nice 1v1 and shot by him and then the follow shot was also very well taken to keep it down.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:14:46
Sorry if itís been said, but how fucking old is Kevin Ellison now?

42


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:14:48
dabre first touch has been poor tonight


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: A Gent Orange on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:15:07
English football seems very complex in structure.

There was something not that long ago on I think Football Weekly confirming that it can now be done via emails.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:15:16
42

Christ - fair play to him!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:15:24
Ref doesn't give penalty when JML tussles with defender on the left.

Guess who protests most?

Yep, McKirdy.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:16:24
had to deal with students and missed the goal....

it was Gilbert who made the initial penetrations correct?  If so I re-track my earlier criticism....that was very nice 1v1 and shot by him and then the follow shot was also very well taken to keep it down.

That's what I mean about him having a much better skillset than nearly everyone on the pitch, if not everyone.  When he gets involved, he is a class above, but h seems to drift around for too long.  He's the opposite of Dabre who just wants to be involved in everything, and then forgets he has a position to play.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:16:50
JML down injured. Physio gives him a drink and rub. He's limping off. But looks as if he's ok


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:18:43
Jermaine Hylton with a swing and a miss!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:19:38
Through ball from Lyden and a great turn by McKirdy dealt with by the second defender on him


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:21:26
Minturn back headers a long clearance back to Ward


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:22:09
Bye bye Jermaine


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:24:05
Having said all that, who's supposed to be our LB where they keep running into acres of space?


yep


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:24:16
Goal mouth scramble. Ward drops onto it.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:25:18
Parsons with a superb bit of vision puts JML clear in the box. Poor first touch pits him in trouble and the opportunity lost.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:26:27
Note: Parsons is a trier and has vision. Might make it as a lower league player.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:27:34
does anyone on ifollow switch to the other teams audio....i it interesting hearing their views...


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:27:57
Another incisive pass from Parsons. Bit of dribbling from Gilbert. Feeds Dabre on the left. Cross goes out of play.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:28:12
Parsons looks more comfortable in midfield than he did up front. Dabreís having a poor game.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:28:24
does anyone on ifollow switch to the other teams audio....i it interesting hearing their views...
Try it. See what you think


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:29:07
Parsons looks more comfortable in midfield than he did up front. Dabreís having a poor game.
Agreed


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:29:53
Gilbert runs through the midfield. Shot blocked. Loses ball. Kicks Missilou


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:30:25
is the team that is on the field next to the stadium part of Town or is it just some other youth team or something?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:30:55
Try it. See what you think

they are not pleased with their team's effort right now.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:33:59
McKirdy with a lovely bit of skill. Best moment of the match.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:35:39
Shit housing


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:35:48
is this the point of the game where shithausery begins???

that word has become very popular around here


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:37:12
Arsenal in second place behind Swindon has a familiar ring to it.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:37:32
is this the point of the game where shithausery begins???

that word has become very popular around here
Been happening for the last 15 mins.

Winchcombe at the back. Hunt in the corner. Someone with cramp.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:37:35
You spelling it wrong 😀


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:38:20
You spelling it wrong 😀
how is it spelled then....spell check doesn't speak England   :D


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:39:20
I'm no expert 😀


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:41:15
McKirdy takes on 4 twice and draws a could, gets a freekick, wastes time and gets Upson booked!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:41:48
Phil Smith is taking this game far too seriously.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:42:05
O instead of the a


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:42:23
I got to say...i really enjoy watching McKirdy play....


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:42:29
1-0 FT


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:43:25
is this the point of the game where shithausery begins???

that word has become very popular around here


shithousery...correct?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:44:21
Confirmatory


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:45:13

shithousery...correct?


That's the one :clap:


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:45:17
Confirmatory

I am a little slow....i get it now...shit house....hence shithousery.....slow  :doh:


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:45:40
Well, a terrible yet fun game.  Not sure we would have learned much about anyone from that, other than McKirdy must be a pain in the arse at training.

East looks a good player.  Gilbert needs to get hold of the game a bit more - there is a lot there but too happy to be on the periphery.

We have won four cup games and drawn one this season, what is going on?

Oh, and Phll Smith seems to get properly excited about "playing it into the corner"


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:46:16
home win
clean sheet
no injuries


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:46:36
Well that was fun. A bit approximate but nice to watch a game without anxiety. McKirdy's hilarious.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:47:47
I quite enjoyed that, loads of kids and backup players meant it was a free hit. Some good passing at times a few poor performers too though.

McKirdy easily my MotM he was like the Duracell bunny.

On the plus side....Garner has now won 4 cup ties already, must be the first manager to have won than many cup ties probably since PdC.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:48:13
McKirdy is a bit of a human Jack Russell.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Super Hans on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:48:46
Four wins away from Wembley. Definitely in the minority but wouldn't mind us winning the thing!

Our fringe players have given a good account of themselves which can only be positive - also nice to see us win at home.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: cdakev on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:50:51
I quite enjoyed that, loads of kids and backup players meant it was a free hit. Some good passing at times a few poor performers too though.

McKirdy easily my MotM he was like the Duracell bunny.

On the plus side....Garner has now won 4 cup ties already, must be the first manager to have won than many cup ties probably since PdC.

Scott Lindsey runs the team in the Papa Johns matches


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Crackity Jones on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:51:46
I quite enjoyed that. The fringe and youth players did well enough, we got 90 minutes into Lyden and we won at home.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:52:48
I am a little slow....i get it now...shit house....hence shithousery.....slow  :doh:
What you might call an opportunity error :)


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:53:13
Four wins away from Wembley. Definitely in the minority but wouldn't mind us winning the thing!

Our fringe players have given a good account of themselves which can only be positive - also nice to see us win at home.

I'm with you...I like winning


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:55:12
Seeing as we only had 1 player from the 11 that beat Crewe that wasnít a bad performance. The 2 young CBs did fine. Got caught out of position at times - as did the WBs - and there were some huge gaps for Newport to exploit but werenít good enough to profit from it.

Got to mention the sheer work rate of Dabre, though. Sure, he loses possession too often, but heís not a WB. Good to see Lyden get through 90 minutes without a leg falling off or somesuch.

East wouldnít let us down when heís called upon to start.

Weird game, really.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:56:24
A shame PaulDs lad didn't get on the pitch.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 20:56:51
Scott Lindsey runs the team in the Papa Johns matches
He does, but, it was a 1st team fixture so counts as a win for Garner.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 21:01:32
He does, but, it was a 1st team fixture so counts as a win for Garner.

Why does he do them? Makes no sense to me?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 21:03:20
A shame PaulDs lad didn't get on the pitch.

Oh, that's Wynn-Davis? Wow. I had it in mind he was still early teens. Probably a good thing Paul's on a TEF break or we'd never hear the last of it.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 21:06:16
Reckon he's about 16 now


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Hunk on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 21:09:38
Good to see Lyden get through 90 minutes without a leg falling off or somesuch.

I read that as Ď Good to see Lyden get through 90 minutes without a leg falling or his stomachí.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 21:10:12
Scott Marshall:
- Pleased with the result tonight and in this competition
- Young boys came in who haven't played in the league
- Showed they were hungry, competitive and fit
- Winchcombe & Minturn: Good competition to give them a chance
- Have included them in training when the opportunity has presented itself
- Did well today in first senior experience
- Could help them in the future
- Lads performed well and training well. Wouldn't single anyone out. The group drives each other on
- You can a lot of similarity between the way the team played tonight and in the league
- Parsons and Dabre at wingback: Two young guys learning the game. Playing a different position always helps you. They are out there performing and learning a different area of the pitch. In the future they may understand team mates better
- Lyden: Where is he in the pecking order? Marshall wouldn't answer. Just said he has had minutes under his belt
- Don't think players are putting pressure on others. They are being competitive and showing professionalism and competitiveness
- Baudry: Discussions today, but not sure as was focussing on tonight's game
- Opportunity to have a rest over the weekend. We've had a good block of work up to this point. Worked hard this morning, have one more session  before the weekend.
- Catch a breath and then get ready to go again against Newport
- This game won't be the same as the next one against Newport.
- Walsall in the Cup? Great, but we have games before that to look at first.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 21:13:40
Att 2125


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: digby on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 22:33:08
Well, I thoroughly enjoyed that !

I think for a team of youngsters they did very well. There was some pretty slick passing at times, and some great runs off the ball. We were very exposed on the wings, which Newport took advantage of, but didn't make as much of it as they should've. But what do you expect when we were playing 2 attackers as wing backs. Dabre was caught out of position so often, but I must admit I admired his terrier-like response of not being afraid to get stuck into some much bigger opponents, and he is so fast !

The 2 youth team defenders making their debuts kept a clean sheet, although they were caught out of position at times, they made up for it with their athleticism and enthusiasm !

You've just got to love watching McKirdy, he's such a livewire, full of running and skill on the ball and it's fun to watch him winding up himself, his opponents and the match officials !

It was good to see Lyden get some much needed minutes into his legs, and I thought East looked well capable of covering for the first team if required. Mitchell - Lawson gets into some very good positions and is very quick, but he really does need to improve on his finishing if he's going to fulfil his potential.

A home win at last, a clean sheet and no injuries - all in all quite a good night !


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: tans on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 22:34:48
I see Harry McKirdy has wound up Kevin Ellison on instagram by posting a pic saying Harry Potter running away from Voldemort

Ellison responds by saying Ďwho you trying to get off you little gobshiteí

:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 22:54:30
Expect the club to reign him in again!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 23:11:52
I see Harry McKirdy has wound up Kevin Ellison on instagram by posting a pic saying Harry Potter running away from Voldemort

Ellison responds by saying Ďwho you trying to get off you little gobshiteí

:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Well seeing as McKirdy wonít be facing Newport week Saturday he can afford too 😁


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Bogus Dave on Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 23:33:18
A shame PaulDs lad didn't get on the pitch.

Does he play on the left wing wahay

In seriousness, must be great for Pauld


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Wednesday, November 10, 2021, 00:18:10
.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9gab8D6HvCA


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: normy on Wednesday, November 10, 2021, 06:00:30
I enjoyed that, they tried to play in a similar way to the first team, and should be commended, considering some were playing out of position and others were inexperienced. They worked well for each other.

Pleased there were no injuries, so its all pretty good.



Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, November 10, 2021, 06:19:55
For the goal, when youíre watching live all you remember is the goal itself. Only upon watching the replay do you appreciate the fantastic bit of skill, couple of great passes that led up to it.

I do hope this group achieve something tangible this season.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, November 10, 2021, 08:45:29
I usually boycott these games, but out of sheer fascination I decided to tune in. The line-up reminded me of being at school a little where you would just put people in random positions; 'Scott, you are wearing Cat Boots, so you go Centre back' etc etc. Parsons and Dabre at Wing Back and 2 youth players at CB along with Rob Hunt doesn't scream clean sheet but to be fair, it got one!

Ignoring the quality of the game, I really enjoyed it. Both teams looked to pass out from the back but we looked to have more energy and press better than them. I thought Minturn and Winchombe to make first team debuts against some decent experienced lower league forwards did brilliantly, and not afraid to bring the ball out from the back either. Sure positionally at times not great, but neither are the first team CBs when the ball is fired into our box. I've said my piece on Dabre on the Man of the Match thread and someone I think hit the nail on the head on this thread but what is he? He certainly is not a Left Wing Back for certain! It was hilarious when he would see the Newport player in acres of space on the right wing, and then remember he was supposed to be there, and then sprint back into position. To his credit, the guy worked his socks off.

Not too much you can draw from that, JML is clearly not a Simpson replacement and does look raw. McKirdy remains a walking yellow card but you can see at times he has huge ability but does play on the edge. Good to give Lyden 90 and East looked assured too. Gilbert showed glimpses but I think his body language showed that his heart wasn't really in it.

We go into the hat, or on a playing card, or in a pizza box or whatever gimmick they use to draw this thing. 


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, November 10, 2021, 08:58:41
When's the draw?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Wednesday, November 10, 2021, 09:11:04
Another £10k in the bank and fringe player progress continues.

Draw is on Saturday after the lunchtime game on Sky Sports I think.
With 2 southern groups yet to be decided, Ipswich, Portsmouth, Franchise, Charlton & Stevenage are all quaking in their boots.
£20k for the 2nd round winners.

Four of the U21 sides have qualified so far as it stands.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, November 10, 2021, 09:19:15
£50,000 banked already! Chuck in the £22,000 for the FA Cup win and Slime Ball Power must be gnashing his teeth to have missed out on any cup money throughout his dynasty!

Nice for Clem to start getting some return.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, November 10, 2021, 09:19:43
£65k weíve earned from this so far, very much needed I imagine. We also got £22k for winning in the FA Cup first round. All adds up.

Edit - Great minds Aud.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, November 10, 2021, 09:24:04
 
Have I missed £15,000 somewhere?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, November 10, 2021, 09:30:40
Pompey away please  :)


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, November 10, 2021, 09:32:33

Have I missed £15,000 somewhere?

£5k in each group game for just playing.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, November 10, 2021, 10:14:59
Think this is the prize pot -

The breakdown of prize money in the Papa Johnís Trophy is below.

Each EFL club will receive a participation fee of £20,000 in addition to any prize money won throughout the competition:

∑ Group Stage - £10,000 for a win, £5,000 for a draw

∑ Round Two - £20,000 for a win

∑ Round Three - £40,000 for a win

∑ Quarter Final - £50,000 for a win

∑ Runner-up - £50,000

∑ Winner - £100,000


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, November 10, 2021, 10:51:47
Att 2125
2,068 official figure.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Wednesday, November 10, 2021, 10:55:58
2,068 official figure.


So many variants JJ my figure was from the ESPN fixtures & attendances


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, November 10, 2021, 10:56:06
I believe Papa John's also sponsor the Rugby League, and literally don't pay a penny, just provide free pizza for the staff and players.

I like to imagine that Harrison Minturn got a free Ham & Mushroom for his debut.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, November 10, 2021, 13:26:21
I know some arenít keen on players being a nob on social media, but this from Harry McKirdy was quite funny - unless you were Kevin Ellison, of course.



Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: JoeMezz on Wednesday, November 10, 2021, 13:29:33
I know some arenít keen on players being a nob on social media, but this from Harry McKirdy was quite funny - unless you were Kevin Ellison, of course.



Why's he reacted so severely  :clap: can't be the first time somebody has called him Voldemort


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, November 10, 2021, 13:49:53
He could have photoshopped some glasses on himself


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Wednesday, November 10, 2021, 14:03:59
I know some arenít keen on players being a nob on social media, but this from Harry McKirdy was quite funny - unless you were Kevin Ellison, of course.



Hilarious, love him


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Godd002 on Wednesday, November 10, 2021, 17:06:43
£65k weíve earned from this so far, very much needed I imagine. We also got £22k for winning in the FA Cup first round. All adds up.

Edit - Great minds Aud.

so does this money go into new players?  stadium improvements?  the owners pocket?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, November 10, 2021, 17:13:31
so does this money go into new players?  stadium improvements?  the owners pocket?

Paying off debts at this moment in time.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Hunk on Wednesday, November 10, 2021, 18:06:41
so does this money go into new players?  stadium improvements?  the owners pocket?

When Clem took over he said he wasnít taking any money out of the club, so unlikely to be the latter. Debts you should think


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: swindonmaniac on Wednesday, November 10, 2021, 20:24:46
Brovers  losing 5-1 at Exeter.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: swindonmaniac on Wednesday, November 10, 2021, 20:27:04
Brovers  losing 5-1 at Exeter.
Now 5-2, the comeback is on.  (Not).


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Wednesday, November 10, 2021, 20:37:02
That's 10 goals they've conceded away at Exeter this season!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: tans on Wednesday, November 10, 2021, 20:54:28
West Ham kicked out of the competition after suffering a points deduction :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Wednesday, November 10, 2021, 21:45:23
https://www.hammers.news/news/west-ham-out-of-efl-trophy-competition-after-fielding-ineligible-player/


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, November 11, 2021, 03:23:21
Weíll get drawn against any side on the right apart from Arsenal



Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Boy About Town on Thursday, November 11, 2021, 10:22:39
I bet we pull Walsall.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, November 11, 2021, 10:28:06
If we keep progressing, I wonder if Garner will strengthen the side he puts out or keep relying on those fringe type players that have got us this far?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, November 11, 2021, 10:32:51
If we keep progressing, I wonder if Garner will strengthen the side he puts out or keep relying on those fringe type players that have got us this far?

I suspect it will depend to a degree on the opponents, at the moment it providing useful reserve games for the squad, plus there will possibly be a bit of loyalty shown (like with the PL clubs and the League Cup).

When will be the trigger point when fans stop boycotting and start wanting us to win it, I cannot remember whether PaulD was a boycotter but if so may have been a bit torn the other night.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Batch on Thursday, November 11, 2021, 10:34:46

When will be the trigger point when fans stop boycotting and start wanting us to win it,

I'm boycotting and I want us to win it HTH. Cash is cash.

There is no point at which that will change.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Thursday, November 11, 2021, 10:42:07
What month does the knockout stage start


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Batch on Thursday, November 11, 2021, 11:22:49
Round Two ties will be played week commencing 29 November.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Thursday, November 11, 2021, 11:24:36
Cheers😀 So we could get to play Walsall again!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Batch on Thursday, November 11, 2021, 11:34:06
I guess so. We will be at home.

3 times in about a month! If we get them...


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Thursday, November 11, 2021, 11:35:08
It could be 4 if we draw in the FA Cup😂


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, November 11, 2021, 14:24:38
Weíll get drawn against any side on the right apart from Arsenal



Apparently we can only draw Walsall, Pompey, Franchise or Colchester at home. Draw is midday on Saturday.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, November 11, 2021, 14:45:52
Apparently we can only draw Walsall, Pompey, Franchise or Colchester at home. Draw is midday on Saturday.

Its gonna be an uninspiring dongs or Colchester innit!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Thursday, November 11, 2021, 14:46:32
I still think Walsall again😳


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, November 11, 2021, 15:06:20
Apparently we can only draw Walsall, Pompey, Franchise or Colchester at home. Draw is midday on Saturday.
That canít be right. There are 8 group winners and 8 group runners up. Apart from Arsenal U21s who were in our group, surely we should be drawn against any of the other seven.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Private Fraser on Thursday, November 11, 2021, 15:33:30
The northern and southern sections are split into two halves apparently:

https://www.efl.com/news/2021/november/papa-johns-trophy--round-of-32-draw/


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, November 11, 2021, 15:35:13
What a load of bollocks, ffs. After this is it a straight, unregionalised knock out?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: 4D on Thursday, November 11, 2021, 15:36:04
Pompey please.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Thursday, November 11, 2021, 15:37:42
What a load of bollocks, ffs. After this is it a straight, unregionalised knock out?

The longer we stay in the tournament the more we waste our time talking about it😀


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, November 11, 2021, 16:04:37
Colchester would be best. Theyíre proper shite.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: dalumpimunki on Thursday, November 11, 2021, 16:56:24
Anyone but Walsall. Three times in a month would be really dull.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Thursday, November 11, 2021, 17:12:43
Potentially 4 times if we draw in the FA Cup


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, November 12, 2021, 09:03:39
If Papa Johns did these they might attract a few more female fans



Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: 4D on Friday, November 12, 2021, 09:05:16
Stuffed crust?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, November 12, 2021, 09:06:25
Mighty Meat Feast, I reckon


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Boy About Town on Saturday, November 13, 2021, 14:00:13
Pull Walsall alreadyÖ.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, November 13, 2021, 14:04:58
Is the draw watchable? is it on sky or some other channel?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, November 13, 2021, 14:14:31
Is the draw watchable? is it on sky or some other channel?

Northern draw just made on Sky - assume the southern one is coming up

Channel 403


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Boy About Town on Saturday, November 13, 2021, 14:14:54
Itís on Sky!!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Saturday, November 13, 2021, 14:16:01
The anticipation is killing me  :eek:


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, November 13, 2021, 14:16:17
Northern draw just made on Sky - assume the southern one is coming up

Channel 403
Cheers I dont have sky sports :)


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, November 13, 2021, 14:17:28
Cheers I dont have sky sports :)

F5 is your friend then :)


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, November 13, 2021, 14:18:05
Just doing the southern draw group A now - we are not in that one


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, November 13, 2021, 14:18:51
Here we go now..


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, November 13, 2021, 14:19:29
Not Pompey or exeter


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, November 13, 2021, 14:19:48
Not LO or Dongs


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, November 13, 2021, 14:20:03
Home to Colchester


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Boy About Town on Saturday, November 13, 2021, 14:20:12
Colchester


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, November 13, 2021, 14:21:05
Proper shite, them!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament??
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Saturday, November 13, 2021, 14:21:24
Better than Wallsall......I suppose


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, November 13, 2021, 14:21:40
Best draw for us IMO.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Saturday, November 13, 2021, 14:22:14
Weakest out the bunch


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: 4D on Saturday, November 13, 2021, 14:51:13
Home  :(


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Batch on Saturday, November 13, 2021, 14:55:27
zzzz


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: swindonmaniac on Saturday, November 13, 2021, 17:00:45
Might be a good one for us to swell the coffers a bit more.  Not for me though.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Saturday, November 13, 2021, 17:03:08
Give or take around 2000 on a cold winters night with Xmas around the corner


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: swindonmaniac on Saturday, November 13, 2021, 17:05:42
100% boycott for me even if we get to Wembley.   (Hope we do though).


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: tans on Saturday, November 13, 2021, 19:12:04
100% boycott for me even if we get to Wembley.   (Hope we do though).

Same


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: singingiiiffy on Saturday, November 13, 2021, 22:44:52
My views on this cup are slowly swaying. the introduction of u21 was disgusting BUT this season more than ever highlights how much these tournaments help the club with money. Getting through the rounds and getting decent crowds in general for this cup is a good cash boost.

now that the money is seemingly ours instead of a power type person I feel much more engaged. We also seem to have the squad to compete in it without effecting our league campaign.

winning things is awesome. I still remember the area final and the buzz of getting to Wembley. I miss it and want it back with this current set up.

I would always want to success in the league over this and the moment it looks like it's affecting it I would want out.

As well as the moment an u21 gets to the final/wins it.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: molepar on Sunday, November 14, 2021, 08:16:13
My views on this cup are slowly swaying. the introduction of u21 was disgusting BUT this season more than ever highlights how much these tournaments help the club with money. Getting through the rounds and getting decent crowds in general for this cup is a good cash boost.

now that the money is seemingly ours instead of a power type person I feel much more engaged. We also seem to have the squad to compete in it without effecting our league campaign.

winning things is awesome. I still remember the area final and the buzz of getting to Wembley. I miss it and want it back with this current set up.

I would always want to success in the league over this and the moment it looks like it's affecting it I would want out.

As well as the moment an u21 gets to the final/wins it.

Couldnít agree more. I donít like the introduction of the U21 teams but winning creates positivity, it brings in money and gives us a chance to test fringe players and hopefully entice young fans to come back (esp with the slightly earlier kick offs).

I hope the rest of you can appreciate this perspective and get yourselves and others through the turnstiles to continue adding to the positivity of this season and new era.


Title: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Batch on Sunday, November 14, 2021, 09:11:02
nope. absolutely not.

I can appreciate the prize money cash. But I'm never going to this competition.

I've given what i can to the club, including waving refunds, buying merchandise I wouldn't normally and renewing an u18 season ticket that will be used a handful of times.

guilt trips won't work


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Sunday, November 14, 2021, 09:26:33
When the squad rules are the same for every club that takes part I'll be interested.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Sunday, November 14, 2021, 09:38:01
I wonder why all the premiership clubs don't have their own version


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, November 14, 2021, 10:02:45
I enjoy watching the fringe players in action, and its part of the iFollow season ticket so I will carry on watching.

If I lived much nearer Swindon and actually went to most/every home game then I doubt very much I would bother going. My mood to this competition has been easing recently as well, its a good chance of extra income and it IS a 1st team fixture despite what some fans may have decided.

Wembley is a long long way off so couldn't even call that until a lot closer but after the last forrays there under PdC and Cooper I am less eager to attend in person.

There is some good prize money on offer though so the longer we are in this the better IMO and Garner seems to like it.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Sunday, November 14, 2021, 10:05:24
Another plus is that fringe players actually get a game in front of a couple of thousand fans.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: swindonmaniac on Sunday, November 14, 2021, 10:11:32
nope. absolutely not.

I can appreciate the prize money cash. But I'm never going to this competition.

I've given what i can to the club, including waving refunds, buying merchandise I wouldn't normally and renewing an u18 season ticket that will be used a handful of times.

guilt trips won't work
This !!!,   Hundreds others agree, I'll do whatever I can to support the club but in no way will I ever support this tinpot cup whilst U21& U23 teams are permitted to participate.  End of.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Sunday, November 14, 2021, 10:17:28
Abolish under 23 teams full stop pointless exercise playing behind closed doors when you could be in a first team elsewhere getting your career on track.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, November 14, 2021, 10:22:36
Abolish under 23 teams full stop pointless exercise playing behind closed doors when you could be in a first team elsewhere getting your career on track.
U21s this season!

Yes just abolish any age limit to the Premier teams so they can play any fringe players they want, much like the League Cup has turned into now, problem solved. Even if the Prem teams CHOOSE to play U21s or U23 then thats up to them but don't make it a proviso of the competition.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Sunday, November 14, 2021, 10:25:38
Yes spot on JJ


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: AMayesIng on Sunday, November 14, 2021, 11:44:44
Thin end of the wedge for me. Like Franchise. You have to draw the line somewhere. For me this tournament has crossed the line. Stop fucking around with our football. Fully respect others views though. Would I go if we got to the final? mmmm


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Batch on Sunday, November 14, 2021, 13:14:20
A return to the proper JPT format would see me go again, i.e. no premier League teams.

if it's not viable without them, it's not for me.

That reserves have to rely on this to get a game is ridiculous. we are limited by how many we can play given we have to field a number of first team players anyway.

we can literally field weaker teams in the fa cup and League cup without issue. it's stupid.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: normy on Sunday, November 14, 2021, 14:27:19
I always enjoyed watching Football Combination matches in the past, and this competition is much better than nothing.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Sunday, November 14, 2021, 14:36:43
Same here I also used to enjoy watching the combination games as there were often top players on display from the big London teams who were recovering from injury or just out of favour. The problem now is that there's are too many players at clubs who don't get any actual games.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: singingiiiffy on Sunday, November 14, 2021, 18:09:26
Although I said it's good for the club etc it is still not swaying me enough to ever go to a paint match. I will go to the area final / final if we make it. Until that happens it will be a passing interest with intrigue of the back ups performing well, pleasing to get results and pleasing to get finances in.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: 4D on Monday, November 15, 2021, 10:59:29
^This


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, November 15, 2021, 11:00:55
I enjoy watching them on iFollow.

Not sure if Iíd go in person if I could.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, November 15, 2021, 11:31:55
Might be a good one for us to swell the coffers a bit more.  Not for me though.

Give or take around 2000 on a cold winters night with Xmas around the corner

Will it swell the coffers, what's the break even on attendance against the cost of opening the ground, safety staff, Inspector Knacker, putting the flood lights on?

I know we get cash for progression but with boycotts the game itself could lose money?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, November 15, 2021, 11:47:04
I enjoy watching them on iFollow.

Not sure if Iíd go in person if I could.
Pretty much what I said on the subject.

I enjoy watching the fringe players in action, and its part of the iFollow season ticket so I will carry on watching.

If I lived much nearer Swindon and actually went to most/every home game then I doubt very much I would bother going.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: THE FLASH on Monday, November 15, 2021, 12:04:01
I hope we go all the way and make some money.

I used to go home and away to these matches. Exeter away, Newport away, Hereford once...and that semi at Barnet.

The introduction of B Teams killed it for me.

I will not set foot in any ground, Wembley or not.  Will watch on the telly with the lads if that happens.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Posh Red on Monday, November 15, 2021, 13:31:00
I hope we go all the way and make some money.

I used to go home and away to these matches. Exeter away, Newport away, Hereford once...and that semi at Barnet.

The introduction of B Teams killed it for me.

I will not set foot in any ground, Wembley or not.  Will watch on the telly with the lads if that happens.

Same for me, regarding the introduction of Premier league B teams.

Refuse to go to the games while they are still involved in it


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Sippo on Monday, November 15, 2021, 14:21:41
Does England still have a B team?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Monday, November 15, 2021, 14:22:51
Apparently not since May 2007


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, November 15, 2021, 14:31:33
I thought it was longer than that, the last one I can remember was when Le Tissier scored a hat trick and still didn't get into the 1st team.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Monday, November 15, 2021, 14:36:37
I thought it was longer than that, the last one I can remember was when Le Tissier scored a hat trick and still didn't get into the 1st team.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/England_national_football_B_team


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: 4D on Monday, November 15, 2021, 14:50:18
Does England still have a B team?

Wa No  :)


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, November 15, 2021, 15:33:30
But England does still have a C international team :) (just on hold since Covid).


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, November 16, 2021, 00:54:28
Didn't Bertie Braley play in the disability team because he was thick as fuck?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Cheltred on Tuesday, November 16, 2021, 14:16:17
Apparently not since May 2007
Well before that there was a representative team called Football League (basically an England B team) who played against the Scottish League, Irish League and League of Ireland. Our own Don Rogers played in one or two of those.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, November 16, 2021, 14:18:24
I think an old fashioned England B team would still be better than a Scottish national team


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, November 16, 2021, 15:21:16
I think an old fashioned England B team would still be better than a Scottish national team

Probably, although The Republic Of Ireland are a little below Scotland at the moment. But they may be England D or E tier.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, November 16, 2021, 15:47:53
Because I'm bored at work, here's an England B XI entirely composed of players with 3 caps or fewer (in reality I imagine the fringe players would get picked)

Aaron Ramsdale

Ben White
Fiyako Tomori
Trevor Chalobah

Tarik Lamptey
James Justin

Conor Gallagher
Curtis Jones

Emile Smith-Rowe
Patrick Bamford
Jarrod Bowen

Bench of:

Dean Henderson
Ben Godfrey
Tino Livramento
Aaron Cresswell
Callum Hudson-Odoi
James Madison
Mason Greenwood



Think they'd probably do okay...


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Tuesday, November 16, 2021, 16:44:16
There might have been others, but one England C international that we had that I can think of was John Goddard.
Signing for a league club would have brought an end to his England C team career I guess.

Quite a few who played for the C team have gone on to have decent careers at league level.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Tuesday, November 16, 2021, 16:49:29
There is always that one player who makes a late run to the England squad. Marc Guťhi will be that player for me


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, November 16, 2021, 16:57:13
Viera has quietly gone about his business at palace and has a few good young players to work with


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Tuesday, November 16, 2021, 17:16:49
I have been really impressed with him. To change a clubs whole ethos in such a short time is a great achievement


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, November 16, 2021, 17:46:24
Same here and a credit to him for taking on a smaller club


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Boy About Town on Tuesday, November 16, 2021, 18:46:04
Same here and a credit to him for taking on a smaller club

Palace arenít a small club in my mind. Maybe for London, but massively followed by a number of Palace fans I know in Swindon.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, November 16, 2021, 18:48:24
I meant in London plus where the clubs he played for


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, November 16, 2021, 19:04:20
Same here and a credit to him for taking on a smaller club

Good place to under promise & over deliver.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, November 16, 2021, 19:09:49
Then move across to North London in a couple of years or so


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Boy About Town on Tuesday, November 16, 2021, 19:43:18
Then move across to North London in a couple of years or so

ĎMicky Tets turning it around at Arsenal and Paddy would not ever go to Spurs.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, November 16, 2021, 19:51:04
Arsenal within 2/3 years if he does well and Arteta has a bad run again.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, November 29, 2021, 14:56:50
Colchester tomorrow with a chance to reach the last 16.

In the minority, but I enjoy watching these games.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Batch on Monday, November 29, 2021, 15:00:19
Gladwin is injured (ankle), not that he'd play I'd imagine.

I hope we win for the cash it brings in, which I believe now outstrips the cost of putting the game on


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, November 29, 2021, 15:01:11
£20,000 I think


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, November 29, 2021, 15:04:00
Colchester tomorrow with a chance to reach the last 16.

In the minority, but I enjoy watching these games.
I enjoy watching them too, doubt I would go even if I lived closer but I do like watching the fringe players get a run out, and wins do breed confidence, 3 wins out of 3 in this cup and 2 of those were at home!

Got my Covid booster at 6pm 30 miles away so may miss the start but will be back to watch as soon as possible.

Apparently Colchester have a lot of injuries George, Wiredu, Tchamadeu, Eastman, Judge, Clampin, Kennedy and some more not mentioned carrying knocks. Ex Town player Bouble expected to start.

At least the wind wont be as aggressive as it was on Saturday levelling the match as it did.

Great chance to progess against one of the lowest placed sides still left in this cup with ony 3 wins in the last 12 games.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, November 29, 2021, 15:08:45
I have a feeling we will line up...

                    Ward
      Winchcombe Crichlow Minturn
Hunt           East     Lyden         Dabre
       JML          McKirdy      Gilbert


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: kirky69 on Monday, November 29, 2021, 17:24:30
I have a feeling we will line up...

                    Ward
      Winchcombe Crichlow Minturn
Hunt           East     Lyden         Dabre
       JML          McKirdy      Gilbert

Pretty much this, although surely Grant will get a run out in central defence,  instead of one of the youths, to give him some game time,  as we are not blessed with experienced cover in that area with Baudry out.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, November 29, 2021, 17:54:02
Pretty much this, although surely Grant will get a run out in central defence,  instead of one of the youths, to give him some game time,  as we are not blessed with experienced cover in that area with Baudry out.
Grant would be my choice but he seems to have fallen off Garners radar totally.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Monday, November 29, 2021, 18:32:45
I haven't seen any predictions so reckon we will nick it 1-0 and the Attendance will be 2105 inc 78 Colcheter fans.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 10:15:40
7.45 normal KO tonight rather than the 7pm that it has been previously in this cup.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 10:18:40
Bollocks!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 10:19:32
Bollocks!
It does mean that I should be back in time from Yeovil for the KO after my Covid booster :)


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 10:22:18
Doesnít finish to nearly midnight here. Iím usually well tucked up by then!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 13:32:37
Back to 5 subs for the EFL games from now in in.

https://www.gazette-news.co.uk/news/19750404.colchester-united-take-swindon-papa-johns-trophy/


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 13:41:00
Grant would be my choice but he seems to have fallen off Garners radar totally.

Garner is not a fan of playing players out of position, but hopefully either way Grant plays to give his experience to the younger players that play


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 13:44:23
Garner is not a fan of playing players out of position, but hopefully either way Grant plays to give his experience to the younger players that play
Absolutely, grant did well at CB under Wellens at Plymouth especially but we don't even know if Grant himself likes playing there let alone Garner.

I do hope that Grant gets some game time, I have forgotten when he looks like and TBH Andrew hawes will probably mistake him for Lyden or East at some point too as he often does get 1 per game very wrong!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 15:17:05
On their forum Colchester fans talking about going to the Wembley final, theres confidence for you!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 15:24:18
I haven't seen any predictions so reckon we will nick it 1-0 and the Attendance will be 2105 inc 7 or 8 Colcheter fans.

Fixed that one for you.  :)


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 15:25:11
That's naughty :clap:


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 15:34:12
I think 7 or 8 will be on the optimistic side!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 15:47:22
Surely they will beat Harrogate😀


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 16:29:20
On their forum Colchester fans talking about going to the Wembley final, theres confidence for you!
Who are they wanting to see there?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 18:37:12
the general starts!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 18:38:15
SUBS | Mildenhall, Gordon, Winchcombe, Dworzak, Fox, Wynn-Davis, Bunch.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: donkey on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 18:59:33
SUBS | Mildenhall, Gordon, Winchcombe, Dworzak, Fox, Wynn-Davis, Bunch.


Hopefully Wynn-Davis gets on.

Glad the General is back,  too.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nijholts Nuts on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 19:06:48
FFS Hockaday is on


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 19:07:29
Trying to work out who plays where

Back 3+2 Dabre  Grant  Critchlow  Minturn. McKirdy?

East Liden  Francis

Gilbert  JML  


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: ibelieveinmrreeves on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 19:10:03
For anyone going tonight, stay safe and be on the lookout for a middle aged bloke frothing at the mouth and feebly attempting to smash up the club shop.

https://twitter.com/Davehard16/status/1465647105519857671



Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 19:10:49
FFS Hockaday is on

Ex Leeds United manager😀


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 19:14:26
Who are they wanting to see there?
They dont care just that most fans want to see Colchester at Wembley!

Made it back from my Covid jab in plenty of time :)


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 19:16:44
Just wondering.

When you do your match updates on here do you have to keep logging out of iFollow to post them on here or do you have 2 tablets.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 19:18:20
Levi Francis is usually a defender, very very highly rated youngster.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 19:18:48
Just wondering.

When you do your match updates on here do you have to keep logging out of iFollow to post them on here or do you have 2 tablets.
PC mate, 2 open windows on a 4k monitor.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 19:20:16
Levi Francis is usually a defender, very very highly rated youngster.
Blimey! Did well to notch a hat trick the other day, then.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Crackity Jones on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 19:20:27
Good to see Minturn keep his place + another of the yoof getting a start. I assume the other young CB is only on the bench so we can get minutes into Crichlow. Pleased to see the General back


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 19:21:33
I have a feeling we will line up...

                    Ward
      Winchcombe Crichlow Minturn
Hunt           East     Lyden         Dabre
       JML          McKirdy      Gilbert
Not too far out with my guess.

                    Ward
            Grant  Crichlow Minturn
Francis        East     Lyden         Dabre
       JML          McKirdy      Gilbert


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 19:29:47
Colchester have named a very strong side with several very experienced starters in Sears, Skuse, Chambers and Judge all have many hundred 1st team starts each.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 19:38:54
Good move by JML there.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 19:39:47
Lovely corner, poor hands by the keeper, nearly a goal.

Straight up the other end and a corner to them! End to end.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 19:40:51
0-1


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 19:41:54
Good corner, Gilbert totally lost his man who headed into the net from 6 yards.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 19:45:36
ďThe East Anglia / Sussex areaĒ is a bit of a collectible from the Yorkshire / Cumbria one.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 19:46:19
0-2


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 19:47:03
ďThe East Anglia / Sussex areaĒ is a bit of a collectible from the Yorkshire / Cumbria one.
Obviously doesnt know his Essex from his Sussex!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 19:47:24
I thought Colchester were meant to be sh*t🤔


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 19:47:37
We're not going to Wembley, Que Sera.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 19:48:13
Poor loss by Minturn but a great saving tackle by Grant in our box.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Gnasher on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 19:48:14
I thought Colchester were shit🤔

They are. But not many teams are shitter than us at home!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 19:49:27
I thought Colchester were meant to be sh*t🤔
Game is being influenced again by the wind, Colchester have the wind behind them 1st half.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 19:50:07
Poor shot by Gilbert from a great position.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 19:50:52
We need four new stands with no gaps!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 19:51:00
Great ball from Francis to McKirdy who should have done better in the box.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 19:51:54
It sounds like a basketball match


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 19:52:11
Just looking back at Colchester's game against Exeter last week, just over 2k crowd. That's poor.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 19:52:15
McKirdy a bit petulant again.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 19:54:13
TBF there are not many better dead ball delivery players in L2 than Alan Judge and he set up their first from the corner, 9 caps for Rep of ireland and it shows. Played well for Ipswich against us both times last season too.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 19:54:38
Lovely cross from McKirdy there into the 6 yard box and cleared.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 19:55:07
Terrible shot from Gilbert again 20 yards out 20 yards over the bar.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 19:56:08
Our passing tonight is very very hit and miss, more miss than hit so far.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 19:57:26
Terrible shot from Gilbert again 20 yards out 20 yards over the bar.

It sounds like a conversion


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 19:57:30
Good challenge this for the reserves/youths.  Unlike the previous three games we have a team who have put out a good team against us with experience and playing in tough conditions.

It shows up how they can play under a bit of pressure - in some cases it's not been pretty for them.

Conditions look trickier than Saturday - some passes along the floor are being pushed around by the gusts.

Couple of the younger lads looking a bit ropey and all over the shop as a team defending some good set pieces.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 19:58:23
East 25 yarder low and hard and inches wide.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 19:59:19
Lyden mistake in our 6 yard box finds their striker but Ward makes a good save.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 19:59:41
Ward down injured after the save.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:00:45
Another great delivery from Judge, another corner to them.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:00:52
Would be ironic if Mildy had to come on because Ward took a kick to the nads.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:01:17
Another great delivery from Judge and Grant saves it on the line!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:01:35
Not going swimmingly this.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:02:18
Does Garner sit in the stands for these games


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:03:19
Judge crosses another great cross into our box but Colchester head it wide, should have been 3.
Minturn not having the best of games so far.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:03:32
I mean, thereís comedy defending and then thereís us.

I know itís our 2nd XI against their 1st, but youíd expect a certain level of competency.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Crackity Jones on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:04:09
Criminal "defending" so far.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:04:28
Judge crosses another great cross into our box but Colchester head it wide, should have been 3.
Minturn not having the best of games so far.

Heís not alone to be fair. Crichlow has spent most of the game the wrong side of his man.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:05:36
Heís not alone to be fair. Crichlow has spent most of the game the wrong side of his man.
Grant is the only one of the CBs to have come out with any credit so far and hes not been great.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:05:58
Judge crosses another great cross into our box but Colchester head it wide, should have been 3.
Minturn not having the best of games so far.

Minturn was the deepest player, so playing them all on and back past our own back post.  Getting a sense he is out of his depth tonight, tough game for him which may help in the long run?

Think they mentioned Francis is playing out of position, which likely explains why he looks a little lost when trying to get into a defensive position at times.  Dabre still looks like a 5 a-side player to me.  They are getting very little help (performance wise) from Grant and Crichlow as well.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:07:09
so poor defending crosses and set pieces

still, as long as there's no injuries


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:07:49
East and Lyden getting overrun in the middle too and McKirdy and JML getting little service.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:10:53
Home late. Struggled to get set up in time. Switched on just to see the first. Then connected to TV just in time to see the second.

Think we might go the way of Latvia ladies at this rate! Not good.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:11:28
Good 30 yarder from McKirdy going in the corner but its saved.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:11:46
Hockaday is a bit of a cunt - keeps pointing out how they are beating us, but very little counter balance being provided about what may be causing that.  Anyone listening would have little idea we have youths vs first teamers here.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:14:12
Better in the last 5 mins from Town.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:14:52
Grant another save almost on the line.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:16:58
Their keeper is going to have nightmares if we can get any corners in the second half - he looks a shambles against crosses.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:20:47
1-2 Crich


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:21:10
Game on :clap:


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:21:16
A header from a McKirdy cross.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:23:18
A bit earlier than the second half for their keeper to create a chance for us, sort of.

I think Francis and Minturn are struggling with the combination of the conditions and the pace of the game when a team takes it more seriously.  Hopefully the conditions will ease the pressure on them a bit in the second half.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:23:26
Think their keeper was lucky not to get a card after kicking Lyden(?) as he went to get the ball out of the net.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:24:12
HT 1-2


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:24:47
Think their keeper was lucky not to get a card after kicking Lyden(?) as he went to get the ball out of the net.

I think he is that bad he actually missed whacking the ball in the frustration and got Lyden instead.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:26:09
Donít think Francis is doing too badly, and he couldnít have done anything about the player who flew into him and bought a yellow card for him. As Squirrel pointed out quite forcefully.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:26:53
I understand we have changed the complete team. However, that was a defensive performance worthy of last year.

Minturn not having a great game.
Grant looking very slow and not a CB option
Crichlow wasn't that slow before injury was he?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:31:29
Thought Grant got back well to prevent another of their chances.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:32:16
Overall, lucky to be only a goal down.  The second string are having a tough time against more experience opposition and the tough conditions with the wind being a real pest.

Ward - think he could have taken a bit more responsibility in that half and took the risk of cleaning house from the corners.  Couple of good one on one saves though.

Francis - not going to judge his career on that half, he's a bit all over the place and a few yards behind the pace of the game.  Couple of nice passes when there has been time.

Minturn - similar to Francis, completely disconnected from Grant at times, getting caught watching the game and has tried a little too hard in the last 10.

Grant - couple of good clearances but he was about to let rip at Minturn before, I assume, remembering he is coaching a youth player through a game.

Crichlow - a mixed bag.  Got to wonder if he gets coached through a game by more experienced players around him?

Dabre - I don't see an immediate future for him beyond five to ten minute cameo's, and not at left back if we were ever defending a lead!  Great skills, not much positional sense and no patience when defending, chases the ball, the players, bits of rubbish, anything near him.  Like a Jack Russell.

Lyden and East - look good on the ball, a bit flimsy off it that half.

Gilbert - he really hasn't kicked on.  Still kind of drifting through a game without ever really getting a grip on it.  Nice technique, is it enough?

JML - I like what I see.  Not that he has played well, but he looks like a player you could coach and try and get the good bits out of him.

McKirdy - done OK, got annoyed, had a grumble, couple of good touches, couple of blind alleys.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:34:08
The bits I have enjoyed:

- McKirdy's curler from the left
- McKirdy remonstrating over Francis's yellow was funny
- McKirdy quickly trying to cross for Crichlow's goal

What I didn't enjoy:
- Lack of defending
- Poor passing
- Dribbling down blind alleys


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:35:31
Grant, JML and McKirdy our best players for me so far, Lyden grew into it but the rest were all disappointing, still the wind will be behind us 2nd half so it could easily change.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:38:46
If anyone was in any doubt as to Colchester taking it more seriously than we are....here are the 1st team appearances of both sets of players, its a shocking difference of experience.

If you take Grant out of our side (the only one with 100+ games) we can only muster 258 appearance between 10 players including Ward and McKirdy, we have 7 players with 20 or less 1st team starts.

Ward 60
Grant 626
Crichlow 18
Minturn 1
Francis 0
East 3
Lyden 49
Dabre 3
JML 20
McKirdy 98
Gilbert 6

If you look at Colchester they have 5 players with 400+ appearances each and only 3 starters with less than 20 1st team starts.

Turner 17
Welch_Hayes 105
Chambers 794
Smith 422
Skuse 604
Judge 426
Sears 445
Chilvers 76
Jasper 19
Dobra 41
Coxe 13

We have 3 teenagers starting and Colchester have zero.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Crackity Jones on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:41:07
Thanks for that PV. Really puts into perspective the difference in the two sides


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:42:43
Thanks for that PV. Really puts into perspective the difference in the two sides
Putting it into perspective we are doing OK TBH.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:42:51
Thanks for that PV. Really puts into perspective the difference in the two sides
So does the score! 😂


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:43:51
I love Dabres youthful enthusiasm but his quality isn't really there yet, raw.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:45:24
I reckon JJ has his own PA working for him feeding him stats as there's no way he would have time to gather so much information whilst summarising the match!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:46:26
McKirdy bored tries a shot from almost 40 yards, its not a good shot!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:46:55
I reckon JJ has his own PA working for him feeding him stats as there's no way he would have time to gather so much information whilst summarising the match!
I like statistics even if many are meaningless! oh and I can multitask!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:48:16
I enjoy them just don't know where you get the time to compile them!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:48:40
Att: 1,728 with 58 from Colchester.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:49:08
I enjoy them just don't know where you get the time to compile them!
Takes just a few minutes TBH mate.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:49:39
I was only 20 out for the away fans!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:50:21
So how do they get a fk for running into each other?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:50:50
Levi Francis off for Gordon.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:51:36
Fulham have been scouting Gordon recently so he must have something about him.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:52:06
Poor old Minturn is having a bit of a mare today.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:53:08
Fulham have been scouting Gordon recently so he must have something about him.
Gordon's alive!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:54:28
Grant is the master of the dark arts of winning free kicks.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:56:05
Grant is the master of the dark arts of winning free kicks.
One of the highlights of the half!

How he got one there I'll never know!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:56:41
I would like to see Gordon playing in his natural left back position rather than a left footer down the right.

McKirdy off for Harvey Fox.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 20:59:30
Oh dear Minturn you got away with that!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 21:00:12
Are we not benefitting from the wind second half


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 21:00:37
Dabre moved more central and further forward now.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 21:00:52
Oh dear Minturn you got away with that!
But not without a bollocking from Ward!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 21:01:05
Are we not benefitting from the wind second half
A little but its not as strong as it was 1st half.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 21:01:38
Poor old Minturn is having a mare!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 21:01:59
the same happened last Saturday!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 21:02:04
Nice move by Town but it ends up in the keepers arms.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 21:05:23
It's so frustrating as you can see Town are 'nearly' there but are lacking that bit of skill, nous and understanding.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 21:05:33
Does Garner sit in the stands for these games
Garner has been on the bench the whole game.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 21:06:01
It's so frustrating as you can see Town are 'nearly' there but are lacking that bit of skill, nous and understanding.
TBF thats been the story of our attacking all season.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 21:07:15
Garner has been on the bench the whole game.

Cheers I didn't know if he was sitting in the stands keeping a low profile


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 21:07:32
Shame we havent pressed their keeper much more as hes not actually very good.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 21:09:02
I hope Minturn can recover from this game, hes had an absolute mare, been off with passing and tackling today.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 21:10:34
FK for handball just outside their box.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 21:10:58
25 yards or so out, in shooting range with the wind behind him.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 21:11:19
Awful delivery from Gilbert.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 21:13:47
JML should have scored there after a great set up, too many touches.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 21:13:50
Iíve liked the look of Gordon.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 21:15:03
Iíve liked the look of Gordon.
Hes a good player, seem him a few times and he always impresses, usually at LB or LCB though. Cant be too bad if Fulham are keen on him either.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 21:16:49
Iíve liked the look of Gordon.
He's a bit Flash!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 21:17:21
1st mistake by Grant of the half, nearly cost us a goal.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: adje on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 21:17:43
He's a bit Flash!
...but at least he's not a moron


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 21:19:05
...but at least he's not a moron
Just cos he's better looking than me!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 21:19:22
Considering the inexperienced line up that we played today (5 teenagers) if we could grab a draw it would be a great achievement.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 21:19:29
Running out of time. And ideas I fear.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 21:21:08
Dworzak looks to be coming on to make it 6 teenagers.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 21:22:03
Gilberts deadballs have been awful today.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 21:22:20
Anton Dworzak for Harrison Minturn.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 21:23:08
Dworzak looks to be coming on to make it 6 teenagers.
Let's hope he can compose a final symphony!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 21:24:30
5 mins added.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 21:24:56
Nasty elbow in the face of Crich from Mculsky.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Jimmy QuitMoaning on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 21:25:31
Our games always finish late!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 21:26:22
Great chance for JML from an East cross but the keeper fumbles a save.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 21:26:31
How did JML not score?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 21:27:23
How did JML not score?
Basically cos he cant finish!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 21:28:33
So close yet so far.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: adje on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 21:28:35
Let's hope he can compose a final symphony!
Would be a "new world" record


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 21:29:09
Lyden heads the ball and injures himself!


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 21:29:48
Not 1 player who started on Saturday for town started tonight and only 3 players who were on the pitch on Saturday played.

FT 1-2


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 21:30:00
oh well


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 21:31:02
Grant my MoM followed by Lyden then East and a big mention for Fox and especially Gordon tonight.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 21:31:19
Oh well. Disappointing to lose. Noone from today staked a claim for a place on Saturday.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 21:34:09
Second half was alright.  Minturn will want to forget he played that one - certainly shows where we would need to be adding heads if we want to continue the challenge all season.

JML is the opposite of a natural finisher.  Makes some good runs, gets into good positions, looks like he is kicking concrete when trying to apply the final touch.

Gordon looked a bit more composed than Francis.  Overall, that should help the second string continue to develop.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Crackity Jones on Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 21:36:35
Oh well - out we go. Good to see some of the academy players out there. Gordon in particular impressed. Minturn had a bit of a shocker sadly. Gilbert was very very poor for someone so close to the first team - dreadful dead ball delivery every time


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, December 1, 2021, 07:22:03
Minturn would have learnt more in that game last night than all the academy games heís played put together.

Thatís why this competition is worthwhile.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, December 1, 2021, 07:45:19
Didn't minturn play last game, and played well.

Big step up last night for them. Blooding our own youngsters, or having the choice to is perfect for this comp.

Should be allowed to field who we want


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: swindonmaniac on Wednesday, December 1, 2021, 09:08:49
Not 1 player who started on Saturday for town started tonight and only 3 players who were on the pitch on Saturday played.

FT 1-2
To me this just shows how seriously this competition is taken.  Ok for runouts but surely not expecting to progress with a team of reserves.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, December 1, 2021, 09:42:16
Didn't minturn play last game, and played well.

Big step up last night for them. Blooding our own youngsters, or having the choice to is perfect for this comp.

Should be allowed to field who we want
Minturn did indeed play well in the last game,didn't look out of place at all in the 1st team, hes impressed me at academy level too but last night nothing worked for him, lets hope his head doesnt drop.

Fox and Gordon both impressed and Francis did a few loose passes but in the main did ok, especially when Gordon and Francis were not playing in their natural positions.

TBH we pretty much can play who we want in these games the rules are way laxer than they used to be, lets face it, Colchester had 1 teenager on the pitch all game, we had 6! and not one starter was a starter from our last game 3 days ago.

I dont think we cant use the "why cant we play who we want" as an excuse any more in this cup as it pretty much allows all L1 and L2 teams to play almost any player, we chose to play a very very inexperienced team whereas Colchester chose to play a team with nearly 3,000 1st team games between them! a quantity that our entire 1st team squad of 30 players can't match!

Even with Grant our team could muster only around 800 and 622 of those were Grant! even on their bench they had 2 players with 400+ games behind them, and if you ignore Midly who was never going to get on the pitch our bench had a grand total of 1 1st team appearance between them!

The result and some of the defending was very poor and the standard was the worst we have seen in the 4 games we have played in this cup but TBH the difference in the sides were the 3 experienced players in Grant for us and Judge and Chambers for them.

As long as our players came through unscathed I am not bothered by losing at all, it was good to get valuable 1st team game time under the belt for our 6 teenagers Minturn, Dabre, Francis, Gordon, Fox and Dworzak in a competitive match.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, December 1, 2021, 09:51:24
Minturn did indeed play well in the last game,didn't look out of place at all in the 1st team, hes impressed me at academy level too but last night nothing worked for him, lets hope his head doesnt drop.


Minturn played with his Academy partner in the last game (can't recall his name) and both looked adequate. I guess partnering him with a first team pro, might have thrown him as he would be unfamiliar with how Critchlow plays etc.

I know it's a very inexperienced side but my main concern this season is how we are defensively. Balls into the box cause absolute mayhem and Colchester's 2 goals were very simple for them. Conversely I thought Mckirdy put some absolutely brilliant crosses in (based on the clips on twitter, I didn't watch the game) which were begging to be finished.

Disappointed to read about JML's finishing, I think this just confirms the need for 1 or 2 proper strikers when the transfer window slides open. Looks like Gilbert's time could be up based on feedback from here also.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: THE FLASH on Wednesday, December 1, 2021, 09:59:20
To me this just shows how seriously this competition is taken.  Ok for runouts but surely not expecting to progress with a team of reserves.

Agreed.

Garners ambition was reflected in the selection. Brucey bonus if we got through, we didnt, he would probably only pick a strong line up in the semis anyway.

I wont lose any sleep over going out of the shit show this cup has become. Shame really.

Did anybody get injured? Hope not.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, December 1, 2021, 10:05:50
Minturn played with his Academy partner in the last game (can't recall his name) and both looked adequate. I guess partnering him with a first team pro, might have thrown him as he would be unfamiliar with how Critchlow plays etc.

I know it's a very inexperienced side but my main concern this season is how we are defensively. Balls into the box cause absolute mayhem and Colchester's 2 goals were very simple for them. Conversely I thought Mckirdy put some absolutely brilliant crosses in (based on the clips on twitter, I didn't watch the game) which were begging to be finished.

Disappointed to read about JML's finishing, I think this just confirms the need for 1 or 2 proper strikers when the transfer window slides open. Looks like Gilbert's time could be up based on feedback from here also.
McKirdy put 2 good balls into the box in his 60 mins but we didnt get the ball to him as much as we should due to the ineffective midfield. Thats all McKirdy did though as well as 1 long ranger that was saved easily. JML looked good first half but OMG his finishing was abysmal as was Gilberts.

With better finishing we would probably have won the tie easily though despite defensive errors.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: singingiiiffy on Wednesday, December 1, 2021, 10:50:03
I had it on the laptop but drifted in and out. the first half was a shambles defensively as expected with 11 new players thrown together. thought 2nd half we knocked it round really well, created some good moments and the players grew into the game.

2nd half was a decent watch although it this was a league game and we needed something i would have a different view. the kids did well in what was a huge step against some very senior players


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, December 1, 2021, 10:58:41
Seems like the tournament has been pretty useful for us all in all.


Title: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, December 1, 2021, 11:15:37
I have to say I have no recollection of minutes 55-70.

I feel asleep.

I don't think it was football related either. simply old man catnap

it does explain why I thought mckirdy was quiet in the last 20 ☺️


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Wednesday, December 1, 2021, 18:26:52
The competition has definitely served a purpose this season and although I didnít make it last night, Iíve found it a bit of a guilty pleasure and enjoyed the matches and mix of players getting a run out.

I wonder who we will see out on loan now weíve exited, Dabre would be an obvious one to benefit.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: sir windon on Wednesday, December 1, 2021, 21:38:19
What was the attendance?


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Wednesday, December 1, 2021, 21:43:12
What was the attendance?
1,728. Only beaten by Bolton's 1773 on the night.


Title: Re: Papa Johnís Tournament???
Post by: sir windon on Thursday, December 2, 2021, 19:21:41
Hilarious still. More Town fans going to Walsall than thatÖ.and who can blame them?