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Title: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, September 14, 2021, 10:25:51
Well, we've sold out the away end (946) 5 days before the game, but we are not getting any more  :doh:

I'm sure we'll have well over a 1,000 there  :D

Won't be an easy game.

I'll go for 1-1 att: 5,833 (946 away*)

* officially  :)


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nijholts Nuts on Tuesday, September 14, 2021, 10:28:54
Gladwin wants dropping to the bench for this one subject to adequate replacement, if not, then he wants dropping on return of the General


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, September 14, 2021, 10:30:08
Gladwin wants dropping to the bench for this one subject to adequate replacement, if not, then he wants dropping on return of the General

I think it would do him well. Let him get his head right.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nijholts Nuts on Tuesday, September 14, 2021, 10:36:32
He'd be a phenomenal impact sub, brought on at 60 mins or so


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, September 14, 2021, 11:18:44
I can see why Gladwin is attracting atttention.  Not sure I wholely agree with it.

His style hasn't really changed - he has ability but doesn't seem to put the effort in. That's how he always has looked - in my memory anyway.

He can certainly pick a pass and has a goal in the locker.

That said, he's not undroppable. If there is one thing we have its a squillion midfielders providing competition.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Tuesday, September 14, 2021, 12:25:19
Gladwin is superbly skillful. He'd be about ten times better if he didn't presume he has a solid twenty seconds on the ball without being challenged every time he gets it.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, September 14, 2021, 13:10:26
Northampton have a game at Newport tonight. Bonus  :)


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, September 14, 2021, 13:12:46
Northampton have a game at Newport tonight. Bonus  :)

Knocks and red cards aplenty, please.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, September 14, 2021, 13:14:27
Apparently they have a couple of defenders already out injured. Sid Nelson is one.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nijholts Nuts on Tuesday, September 14, 2021, 14:37:52
Apparently they have a couple of defenders already out injured. Sid Nelson is one.

Sid who?


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, September 14, 2021, 15:05:05
NELSON


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JBZ on Tuesday, September 14, 2021, 19:51:58
I think this will be a home win. Att: 5,298


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, September 14, 2021, 19:57:53
I've no idea what to expect, I just hope we've learned something from Saturday.



Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and mat
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, September 14, 2021, 19:59:07
well, that's the test isn't it. if he tries doing exactly the same thing again and again it's a worry


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and mat
Post by: Pookemon on Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 09:53:39
well, that's the test isn't it. if he tries doing exactly the same thing again and again it's a worry

Having been to every league game so far It does feel like style over results TBH and we've not played well other than in patches.   
That said we still seem to be in pre-season mode.  Alot of chopping and changing, giving minutes, managing legs etc.

Hopefully he can work on tweaking the core method once it settles down a bit.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 09:54:37
After last nights 1-0 win at Newport, Cobblers now sit 5 places above us in 3rd place on 2 more points than us. Flynn said Newport were awful against them.

A game won by a scrappy goal from about 4 yards out after many mistakes in the Newport defence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blEMevweK8w

Quote from: Mike Flynn
"I thought we were absolutely awful first half, gave it a go first half with a better team but never really looked like scoring.

"A few have played themselves out of the squad completely, some of the performances tonight were dreadful... but I pick the team and I'll take this one on the chin.

"I don't at the minute [know the severity of Scot Bennett's injury] and that's probably summed the evening up, because he's a key player for us. I just hope it's not a bad one."

Going by the high(low)lights it looks like Newport 2nd half seemed more likely of the teams to score.

They certainly won't be a pushover and under John Brady play a slightly less agricultural style than they did under Curle.

Swindon to suffer a single goal defeat in front of 5,845 fans with 946 (officially) Swindon fans there.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and mat
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 09:59:44
Having been to every league game so far It does feel like style over results TBH and we've not played well other than in patches.   
That said we still seem to be in pre-season mode.  Alot of chopping and changing, giving minutes, managing legs etc.

Hopefully he can work on tweaking the core method once it settles down a bit.


Before the season kicked off, I said I'd give it 10 ish games before I start being critical.

That's 6 ish pre-season games that we didn't have and another 4 or so for more tweaking after the season kicks off.

I don't see any reason to change my mind.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 10:36:38
End of October is my real judgement point.  But its boring if we don't talk about the interim.

Presently I'm not sure which way its going to go, only that we rarely deviate from the plan. We've not yet hit consistency one way or the other.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 11:20:15
Seems we are better away than at home. We seem a Ďsoftí side with no steel. Easy to get at and pressurise. Not sure how a few more games will change that.

Cobblers now have 5 clean sheets from their 7 games. Ainít going to be many goals Saturday.

Be nice to score in the first half - be a collectorís piece, that!


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 11:32:54
Where's McKirdy? Need him up alongside Simpson.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 11:34:35
Seems we are better away than at home. We seem a Ďsoftí side with no steel. Easy to get at and pressurise. Not sure how a few more games will change that.



Cutting out the sloppy passing would be a start.

And learning to put their foot through it from time to time would help. If we are going to insist on passing it out from the back, Garner could at least tweak it so we have an outlet for when we do need to play it long. Stop it from coming straight back again and make it riskier for the opposition to press us.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 11:37:32
Where's McKirdy? Need him up alongside Simpson.
Injured.

Grant, Aguiar and McKirdy all missing for Saturday.

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/19576894.ben-garner-confirms-three-swindon-town-players-will-miss-northampton-town-away/

Cutting out the sloppy passing would be a start.

And learning to put their foot through it from time to time would help. If we are going to insist on passing it out from the back, Garner could at least tweak it so we have an outlet for when we do need to play it long. Stop it from coming straight back again and make it riskier for the opposition to press us.
IMO if we did exactly as you state then we would instantly become way harder to beat.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 11:44:31
Cutting out the sloppy passing would be a start.

And learning to put their foot through it from time to time would help. If we are going to insist on passing it out from the back, Garner could at least tweak it so we have an outlet for when we do need to play it long. Stop it from coming straight back again and make it riskier for the opposition to press us.
Tbf to Garner if he gives defenders the option to boot it clear if they perceive trouble they will, invariably, choose to do just that.

Itís only a short time ago but we played it out well enough under Wellens and I donít remember too many catastrophic cock ups at the back. The reason, I reckon, was that opponents feared Yates/Doyle et al so very few pressed high up the pitch in case those 2 got loose.

We really donít have much fear factor going forward as we are too slow and methodical.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Pookemon on Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 11:55:30
Seems we are better away than at home.

Not sure we are, we were lucky against Salford and played a poor Scunthorpe side.   


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Pookemon on Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 12:18:08
Don't want to sound like I'm on a downer with it all.  We're miles ahead of where I thought we'd be.

Once some partnerships develop it will help.  Mckirdy and KKH play well together, when available, back 4 and front 3 behind Simpson have changed quite a bit, so hard to gel especially for youngsters.

The lack of physicality and nouse is going to be an ongoing issue and suspect that scrappy goals are more likely to be conceded than scored as a result.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 12:38:48
It's still a million times better than last season  :)


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 13:09:00
But weíve got to look forward - not keep harping on about shit it was last season.

Weíve now got a squad which should be play off material at least.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Frigby Daser on Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 13:24:07
But weíve got to look forward - not keep harping on about shit it was last season.

Weíve now got a squad which should be play off material at least.

Iím not sure that we do. We have some players that, played in the right way with the right players around them, are good enough for the level above: Williams, Hayden, Payne, Reed. But the way they are being asked to play and the absence of speed and a physical presence holds us back. You could put Phil Foden in a team like this - but without physical players around him, we wouldnít be up there, because weíd pass slowly, and get outmuscled.  Garner would read this and say we are Luddites, when in reality, we understand his recipe perfectly well, heís just left a few things off the shopping list! Thereís more than one way to play exciting, attractive football. Itís not his way or long ball. Weíve seen far more effective, attractive, entertaining football under Wellens, Cooper and Di Canio. All of those sides had technical players, blended with physical players, the ability to switch play and pass at pace.

I just hope Garner doesnít belligerently stick to a game plan if it doesnít click soon. We need to be more pragmatic. Fill the gaps, or adjust the approach.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 13:26:46
But weíve got to look forward - not keep harping on about shit it was last season.

Weíve now got a squad which should be play off material at least.

Are you get it forward man?  :sherlock:


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 13:44:10
Iím a get it forward quickly man - preferably on the deck. But for that to work we need our forward players in the box - not just Simpson with the others hanging around just outside the box waiting for a chance recycle the ball after going backwards. That stat about the low number of times we get into the opponentsí box should be a wake up call for Garner.

We never seem able to get up a head of steam against the other team and get the crowd whipped up. Itís all slow it down and start again. Some may like it - I donít. Itís boring.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Red Frog on Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 14:24:03
Agree with the doubters here. There nothing regressive about the "get it forward fast" argument - it's what most successful Prem sides do: break quickly while the the oppo is out of shape, pass accurately and find players moving into space. You need a) ball-playing skill and b) pace to make it work, but I'd say we have more of that than most in this division. And other teams would press us less high and less hard if they knew we had that option.

It just feels as if they're getting wise to the consistently slow build, as Vale showed so effectively, and if we don't develop another option then we really will have to expect the same outcome as a Luke Williams side.

Still, will give Garner time to see this and act before writing his style off. As FH says, he's still more or less training in pre-season habits right now.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Pookemon on Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 14:25:40
Starting better would also be a big step forward.  It's only really Stevenage that we've had a decent 1st half display and could have been behind there too.  

1 goal in 6 first halves says it all.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 14:44:50
Agree with the doubters here. There nothing regressive about the "get it forward fast" argument - it's what most successful Prem sides do: break quickly while the the oppo is out of shape, pass accurately and find players moving into space. You need a) ball-playing skill and b) pace to make it work, but I'd say we have more of that than most in this division. And other teams would press us less high and less hard if they knew we had that option.

It just feels as if they're getting wise to the consistently slow build, as Vale showed so effectively, and if we don't develop another option then we really will have to expect the same outcome as a Luke Williams side.

Still, will give Garner time to see this and act before writing his style off. As FH says, he's still more or less training in pre-season habits right now.

Agree with all of this.

There always has & always will be a difference between aimless hoof ball (And sometimes those are needed) and passing longer/more direct/playing off a targetman.
This modern day notion that trying to emulate 2010 Barcelona is the only way to play football is a crap one at best.

We have to hope Garner is working on a plan b because if he isnít then heís being very naive and weíll probably lose more than we win on account of shooting ourselves in the foot at the back & having no attacking impetus


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 14:49:14
This modern day notion that trying to emulate 2010 Barcelona is the only way to play football is a crap one at best.


Not really if you have the players with the mind and skills to play it, however, the players with the mind and skills to play it are not going to be knocking about in the English 4th tier going to a club with limited wage resources.

In the main the system seems to be very dependent upon having a couple of centre halves comfortable on the ball and at this level such players are like rocking horse shit!


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 14:51:27
I don't think it's the style - more the execution. And I do see intent to get the ball forward quicker but it's not coming off for whatever reason.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 15:01:09
Not really if you have the players with the mind and skills to play it, however, the players with the mind and skills to play it are not going to be knocking about in the English 4th tier going to a club with limited wage resources.

In the main the system seems to be very dependent upon having a couple of centre halves comfortable on the ball and at this level such players are like rocking horse shit!

If you have the players to do it great. Not many clubs will have the team that Barca had in that period though full stop.

The system is obviously helped by having comfortable on the ball centre backs but falls down if all they are going to do is pass it sideways or at best in the holding midfielders who will probably give it back to them.

The system hinges on midfielder players who can get the ball and keep possession whilst progressing forwards. Thatís what we donít seem to have.

Defence
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Midfield
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Attack


...is how we seemingly play and passing around the defence and midfield 25 yards from our own goals is going to beef up our passing/possession stats and nothing else


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Frigby Daser on Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 15:32:47
Iím a get it forward quickly man - preferably on the deck. But for that to work we need our forward players in the box - not just Simpson with the others hanging around just outside the box waiting for a chance recycle the ball after going backwards. That stat about the low number of times we get into the opponentsí box should be a wake up call for Garner.

We never seem able to get up a head of steam against the other team and get the crowd whipped up. Itís all slow it down and start again. Some may like it - I donít. Itís boring.

I think the fact that weíve had 8 or 9k plus crowds and not once generated at atmosphere yet says a lot. Itís flat because the football has been boring. I hope this isnít read as us being ungrateful for the clubís recovery. Not in the slightest. Itís just a bit of a missed opportunity if we donít correct these things.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 16:07:27
This all depends on viewpoint about what we are trying to achieve.

If you think we are trying to achieve immediate results and a promotion challenge, then we look a bit short right now.

If you think this is a plan to build a style and structure in the club suited to importing youth talent (either produced by us or farmed from higher up the food chain), with a view to being a success in 18-24 months time given immediate budget challenges and minimal pre-season prep, then I think it has legs.

We were hamstrung for this season and we have some holes in the plan if it was for immediate success - a lack of a good left back (unless it's Critchlow, but Centre Back depth is hampering that), youth talent that is not quite ready, forward talent that has potential but not yet determined where each players best position may be, younger and less experienced centre forward option and so on.

This to me looks like a season where we may be close to the promotion chasers, but without a January  intake we will be a bit short (regardless of style).  So, the style and structure looks designed to ensure the younger players are attracted and develop the way they are used to.

Also, anyone thinking we got promoted under Di Canio thanks to style of play must be a bit nuts.  Yes, he drove them to perform, but the biggest plus point was an endless supply of players and budget until we got the right mix.  Imagine him being told he could only sign a squad of 24 or so, couldn't offer decent wages, and only had a few weeks to make final decisions after which he was stuck with the squad.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 16:20:40
This all depends on viewpoint about what we are trying to achieve.

If you think we are trying to achieve immediate results and a promotion challenge, then we look a bit short right now.

If you think this is a plan to build a style and structure in the club suited to importing youth talent (either produced by us or farmed from higher up the food chain), with a view to being a success in 18-24 months time given immediate budget challenges and minimal pre-season prep, then I think it has legs.

We were hamstrung for this season and we have some holes in the plan if it was for immediate success - a lack of a good left back (unless it's Critchlow, but Centre Back depth is hampering that), youth talent that is not quite ready, forward talent that has potential but not yet determined where each players best position may be, younger and less experienced centre forward option and so on.

This to me looks like a season where we may be close to the promotion chasers, but without a January  intake we will be a bit short (regardless of style).  So, the style and structure looks designed to ensure the younger players are attracted and develop the way they are used to.

Also, anyone thinking we got promoted under Di Canio thanks to style of play must be a bit nuts.  Yes, he drove them to perform, but the biggest plus point was an endless supply of players and budget until we got the right mix.  Imagine him being told he could only sign a squad of 24 or so, couldn't offer decent wages, and only had a few weeks to make final decisions after which he was stuck with the squad.

Talking of Left Backs, is it time we tried Iandolo in that position for a sustained period? I know Hunt can play there but could Iandolo be a better option with Hunt as back up?

I was listening to the pre-match presser for Port Vale (I know i'm a bit behind) and Ben Garner was  asked to pinpoint where he saw Iandolo's best position. Garner replied and said that he recognised where his best position was for the club and Iandolo himself, but negated to actually specifically say what the position was.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: theakston2k on Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 17:25:57
Talking of Left Backs, is it time we tried Iandolo in that position for a sustained period? I know Hunt can play there but could Iandolo be a better option with Hunt as back up?

I was listening to the pre-match presser for Port Vale (I know i'm a bit behind) and Ben Garner was  asked to pinpoint where he saw Iandolo's best position. Garner replied and said that he recognised where his best position was for the club and Iandolo himself, but negated to actually specifically say what the position was.
Nope, heís definitely not a left as he canít defend. Heís too weak to play in a defensive position both ability wise and physically constantly bottling strong or 50/50 tackles. Iím not sure where his best position is but this season must be make or break as he doesnít seem to be progressing any further and he canít just be a utility player forever.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 17:27:32
Nope, heís definitely not a left as he canít defend. Heís too weak to play in a defensive position both ability wise and physically constantly bottling strong or 50/50 tackles. Iím not sure where his best position is but this season must be make or break as he doesnít seem to be progressing any further and he canít just be a utility player forever.

7 seasons he's been at STFC now!


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Posh Red on Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 17:39:13
Nope, heís definitely not a left as he canít defend. Heís too weak to play in a defensive position both ability wise and physically constantly bottling strong or 50/50 tackles. Iím not sure where his best position is but this season must be make or break as he doesnít seem to be progressing any further and he canít just be a utility player forever.

Personally I thought he played well in midfield at Scunthorpe, albeit they were not very good


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 18:06:45
I think Garner wants him to be a central midfielder, but he is still a problem there because he drifts left.  Maybe that positional sense will come with games, but he is running out of time to nail a position down.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 18:12:37
We have lost 1 game in 6 and people are saying things are not working

Madness


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 18:14:56
We have lost 1 game in 6 and people are saying things are not working

Madness

Agree.

The match day threads have been ridiculous this season even when we've won.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 18:18:40
Just don't get it mate. We had people saying it was Luke Williamsesq on saturday. We created chances had shots on target and were just bullied by a better team, much like when Colchester and Newport did it last time we were here


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 18:20:07
We have lost 1 game in 6 and people are saying things are not working

Madness

Fucking happy clapper.  ;)


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: theakston2k on Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 18:26:10
I think Garner wants him to be a central midfielder, but he is still a problem there because he drifts left.  Maybe that positional sense will come with games, but he is running out of time to nail a position down.
Reminds me of David Duke in all honesty.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Pookemon on Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 19:05:38
Just don't get it mate. We had people saying it was Luke Williamsesq on saturday. We created chances had shots on target and were just bullied by a better team, much like when Colchester and Newport did it last time we were here

  Too deep, too slow and inflexible is asking for trouble in any league playing any style.

As I've said it's miles ahead of where I thought we'd be and clearly they will improve but the Williams memories are so fresh and styles so similar, comparisons are inevitable.   


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 19:22:42
  Too deep, too slow and inflexible is asking for trouble in any league playing any style.

As I've said it's miles ahead of where I thought we'd be and clearly they will improve but the Williams memories are so fresh and styles so similar, comparisons are inevitable.   
There is a huge flaw in what you are saying


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Pookemon on Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 20:11:51
There is a huge flaw in what you are saying

If you say so


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 20:14:34
If you say so
the 1 defeat in 6 says so, not me. i could understand if we were being hammered and conceding left right and centre or even not creating chances but we are not


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 20:40:59
Rather than the ambiguous XG and similar stats I found something a bit clearer.

According to this, we're 7th in terms of average shots per games and shots on target/game

https://www.fctables.com/england/league-2/shots/

I also wasted some time going through the match reports and, so far, we've had 2 more shots than our opponents have and the same number of shots on target.

Which both suggest that we're not doing nearly as badly in attack as some people are making out.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: REDBUCK on Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 20:48:05
Check out the Sites and Sounds video - biased obviously but we have our fair share of nearly moments

https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/ifollow/latest-videos/ (https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/ifollow/latest-videos/)


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JBZ on Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 20:53:13
Goals scored is quite a useful stat


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 20:58:27
Goals scored is quite a useful stat

Joint 9th, although 3 teams below may or may not catch up/overtake with their game in hand.

Joint 5th for goal difference.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 21:14:09
the 1 defeat in 6 says so, not me. i could understand if we were being hammered and conceding left right and centre or even not creating chances but we are not

2 defeats in the last 6 in the league.
Also, 2 draws and 2 wins.

Which just backs up what everyone is saying. Itís alright but there is room for improvement


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Pookemon on Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 21:20:36
We've not been bad, but we haven't played that well either other than in patches and wollacott has been our best player

We're a work in progress how could we not be after the pre-season we had.  I'm just happy to be able to have a team to watch every Saturday.

The fact that we can have debates a about football rather than court cases is a godsend.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and mat
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 21:29:55
@flashheart

thing is. stats don't really show what actually happened. a dribbler into the keepers hands - on target. a thunderbolt off the bar - off target.

same for all teams of course .

I've been quite impressed with us defensively, Saturday aside. Yes Walacott is a big part of that too.

meh, we are a work in progress that isn't in top gear. we can look predictable and slow at our worst, and quality and punishing at our best.

bring on Northampton


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, September 16, 2021, 10:46:45
I also wasted some time going through the match reports and, so far, we've had 2 more shots than our opponents have and the same number of shots on target.
You could have not wasted your time and just gone back to Saturday matchday thread where I had already done the adding up!

Yeah we are creating loads of chances and TBF hitting the target with a fair few so far.

As you know I like a got stat even if you can often not read much into them.

If you add it all up (in all 8 1st team games played, thats 6 league, 1LC and 1 JPT), so far we have amassed

108 shots (13.5 per game)
40 on target (5 per game)
9 goals scored (1.1 per game)
an average of 60% possession per game.

Opposition sides against us have had

90 shots (11 per game)
26 on target (3 per game)
5 goals conceded (0.6 per game)
an average of 40% possession per game



Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, September 16, 2021, 16:16:25
Dare I ask as I know the ground is in one of soulless areas with cinemas and restaurant chains etc but what is the food and drink like around Sixfields? Any top tips? 


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Tails on Thursday, September 16, 2021, 16:35:34
Dare I ask as I know the ground is in one of soulless areas with cinemas and restaurant chains etc but what is the food and drink like around Sixfields? Any top tips? 

You're spoilt for choice with food. Maccies, Taco Bell, TGI Fridays, Bella Italia, Chiquitos. Couple of pubs there too


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: ChalkyWhiteIsGod on Thursday, September 16, 2021, 17:22:24
You're spoilt for choice with food. Maccies, Taco Bell, TGI Fridays, Bella Italia, Chiquitos. Couple of pubs there too

Like if a miniature football ground was included with Greenbridge Retail Park.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: stfcjack on Thursday, September 16, 2021, 17:25:38
If anyone has a spare couple of tickets or is no longer able to attend please let me know as will be willing to buy off you, cheers :D


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 07:03:25
Matchday.

I always think weíre going to win - today is no different. Itís not over confidence - far from it - but who wants to predict their team is going to lose every time (like some).

Canít see the game playing out much different to the previous ones this season. Both teams donít score many, both teams tend not to concede many. Could be a bit of a bore fest, but away from home, who gives a flying one.

Weíll probably have a couple of high quality chances - just need to take them. I had my doubts about Simpson but he seems to have gained confidence from his couple of goals and looked our only threat last week.

Pop another one in, please.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 08:19:09
My initial concern today is we will get bullied.
Cobblers mate of mine that goes to every game saying they are playing well but canít score goals.
They are solid at the back and the defenders are scoring.
Creating plenty of chances in the process.

Having watched every game, without Grant we simply donít have a ball winner in central midfield.
If we still want to be the next Man City then we have to get better at it. First half at Stevenage at times it was working. Utilising the width, accurate and quicker tempo.

When it doesnít work we wonít change to a plan B.
Based on this no idea as to how this game today will go. They will bombard our box in true Northampton style and will threaten from throw ins and corners.

At least I have a short journey for once.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 08:22:04
We defend pretty well, tbh. Itís the individual mistakes adhering to the Ďprojectí thatís killing us at times.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Frigby Daser on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 08:25:37
As a lightweight team, the only way to counteract being outmuscled, as we were last week, is to move it quicker before they can get near us. Today will tell us if Garner has any plan to react to what we saw v Port Vale, or just stick to the ďprettyĒ but ineffective blueprint.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 09:24:30
Pre match lack of a high press at the bar in The Cordwainer.
Not been addressed as meduck yet but give it time.

A 2pm kick off is like the clocks going forward, except that it's an hour of valuable drinking time that is lost.

Did they ever find the missing millions here in the end?
Imagine if SBC offered to lend over £10 million to the previous owner.
The chronic greed & avarice might have caused him to keel over.
Anyway, I'm sure that the East Stand will look nice when it's finished.

So, over 50 seasons spent in the same division as Nofuntown since the start of the football league.
I remember one of their lot coming on here a few years back and sparking a debate on which was the bigger club.
Don't think it's them whichever way you look at it.

Hopefully no repeat of the stewarding shenanigans of a couple of years back. Smaller clubs seem to struggle with the larger away followings for some reason

Noticed that they have Ali Koiki in their ranks.
Might have been worth a punt when he left Burnley, but was still quite raw then.
Cue rampaging runs and loads of crosses coming in today then.

In terms of quality hoping for more Crockett & Jones than Shoe Zone today, both on and off the pitch.



Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 09:59:03
First game since Stevenage. Would take a similar result. Neither team scoring a lot of goals so think it'll be tight. Hoping the banter off the field might be a bit more relaxed than in Hertfordshire.

I'll go 1-1.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 10:18:45
Wollacott

KKH
Conroy
Crichlow
Hunt

Reed
East

Williams
Payne
Gilbert

Simpson

Ward
Odimayo
Iandolo
Gladwin
Parsons
Mitchell Lawson
McKirdy

Not necessarily how I would line up but think BG will go with East over Gladwin to try & assert a bit more control in the middle of the park.
Would like to see AK come into the middle alongside Conroy, allowing Crichlow to move out wide to potentially solve the LB conundrum, subsequently enabling Hunt to move out to his favoured right hand side.
Thus giving us the flexibility to play KKH further forward if needed.
Lots of options for BG to dwell on. I'm sure he'll set us up nice & compact with Plan A being to soak up the pressure & play on the counter.
Would take a draw today.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 10:21:05
So, over 50 seasons spent in the same division as Nofuntown since the start of the football league.
I remember one of their lot coming on here a few years back and sparking a debate on which was the bigger club.
Don't think it's them whichever way you look at it.

Noticed that they have Ali Koiki in their ranks.
Might have been worth a punt when he left Burnley, but was still quite raw then.
Cue rampaging runs and loads of crosses coming in today then.
In what alternative world would Northampton ever been seen as a bigger club than we are? even in the futile willy waving football forum talk. They haven't even been out of the bottom 2 divisions since 1966!

Their average crowds have always been barely more than half of ours at best and they have never won a minor let alone a top trophy ever, they aren't even in the same time zone let alone post code as a comparable team!

Had several courses in Northampton over the years and never have I see so many Chavs with staffies in a town centre ever, not even Gilligham cames close. Its like Blackbird Leys, Knowle West, Penhill and Toothill all mashed together in 1 cess pit of  Burberry dressed chavvery.

As for Ali Koiki, he had a bit of promise when with us but it was all pace and little quality, he is like a left back version of Tyler Reid, lets face it if Rovers fans say he was shit and was freed after just 1 season with them then thats no huge endorsement to his talents!

I just hope that we don't put the defenders/keeper under unnecessary pressure while playing short passes that are way too often short of their intended target or putting us into meedlessly silly positions.

Otherwise there isn't too much we need to change, just maybe have a plan B when plan A blatantly isnt working, as on Saturday, we get bullied too easily we should be imposing our quality on them with a high press passing game as we can do so well.

Unlikely to be masses of goals I wouldn't think a very tight game as most games at Cobblers are.

In games between the 2 sides in Northampton since 1963 we have won 7, drawn 4 and lost 6 games there, scoring 22 and conceding 22, so its been pretty even.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 10:35:52
Cobblers fan on another forum has said there are a lot of police on the streets of Northampton today. I guess that's possibly as there is both football and rugby on in the town today. Hopefully the only thing that kicks off are the matches.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 10:46:27
Cobblers fan on another forum has said there are a lot of police on the streets of Northampton today. I guess that's possibly as there is both football and rugby on in the town today. Hopefully the only thing that kicks off are the matches.
Hopefully mate, they have some nasty fans down the years, they came in 83 to Swindon and wrecked the Bank during a 5-1 win, their fans also went en masse to Kettering in the FA cup the year after and caused loads of trouble with my old mate Sid Sellars getting glassed in the clubhouse.

Then in 86 we went to their old ground (the fake County Ground) with the cricket pitch down the side and it was some of the worst fighting I have ever seen at a Town game inside and outside the ground when we took nearly 2,000 fans there while riding high in the league on a damn February Saturday.

Its dulled a bit more since then, partly due to our rise up the leagues their demise, but they always used to hate us, it often spilled over onto the pitch too back then.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 10:53:53
A quick reminder to Town fans, the game kicks off at 2pm not the usual 3pm today, just another heads up!


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 10:54:25
I was at that game where a Swindon fan was stabbed outside a convenience store before the kick off.
Some horrible scenes between fans back then it has to be said.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Kinky Tom on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 11:00:25
Cobblers fan on another forum has said there are a lot of police on the streets of Northampton today. I guess that's possibly as there is both football and rugby on in the town today. Hopefully the only thing that kicks off are the matches.

There was also a stabbing in the centre during the week, a 16 year old boy, so that could be another reason for a heavier police presence.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 11:03:05
There was also a stabbing in the centre during the week, a 16 year old boy, so that could be another reason for a heavier police presence.

Forgot to thank you for your food suggestions earlier in the Fred. How rude of me!!


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Kinky Tom on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 11:04:03
Ha, that wasn't me :D


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 11:13:07
Ha, that wasn't me :D

Doh!! It was Tails, sorry Tails (and KT).


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 11:16:47
Hopefully mate, they have some nasty fans down the years, they came in 83 to Swindon and wrecked the Bank during a 5-1 win, their fans also went en masse to Kettering in the FA cup the year after and caused loads of trouble with my old mate Sid Sellars getting glassed in the clubhouse.

Then in 86 we went to their old ground (the fake County Ground) with the cricket pitch down the side and it was some of the worst fighting I have ever seen at a Town game inside and outside the ground when we took nearly 2,000 fans there while riding high in the league on a damn February Saturday.

Its dulled a bit more since then, partly due to our rise up the leagues their demise, but they always used to hate us, it often spilled over onto the pitch too back then.

I remember the 5-1, towards the end of that season.
Their fans were like a swarm of hornets that day.
Steve Massey stood out for them and if I recall  we did try to sign him.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Pericardinho on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 11:19:23
Always surprises me that people say they'll take a draw.

I wouldn't take a draw against anybody in this league. Home or Away. Especially not this early in the season.



Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Ardiles on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 11:30:49
Sat in the sun, opposite the ground after a 360 mile drive down.  Programme in hand.  About to get a beer and meet up with my brother.  First Town game in nearly 20 months.  Butterflies.

Excited doesn't cover it.  Oh Swindon, how I have missed you.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 11:41:27
I remember the 5-1, towards the end of that season.
Their fans were like a swarm of hornets that day.
Steve Massey stood out for them and if I recall  we did try to sign him.

Massey always seemed to score against us, great little striker. We bid for him when he went to Hulll for £50k when Macari was in charge.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: RobertNestasReefer on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 12:32:15
Anyway to watch or listen to the match today?

Had a look at ifollow but seems to only be available to people outside of the UK this season?


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 12:48:35
Anyway to watch or listen to the match today?

Had a look at ifollow but seems to only be available to people outside of the UK this season?
If outside Swindon then iFollow do matchday commentary on a pay per game basis, you can watch iFollow if you use a certain VPN, go through previous matchday threads for instructions or put it in search on here.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 12:56:44
Quite late announcing the team news.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: RobertNestasReefer on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 12:57:47
If outside Swindon then iFollow do matchday commentary on a pay per game basis, you can watch iFollow if you use a certain VPN, go through previous matchday threads for instructions or put it in search on here.

Cheers Ö much appreciated  :thumb:


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 12:58:28
Wollacott, Odimayo, Iandolo, Conroy (C), Crichlow, Simpson, Payne, Gilbert, Williams, Kesler-Hayden, Reed.

SUBS | Ward, Gladwin, Mitchell-Lawson, Aguiar, East, Parsons, Dabre.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 12:59:29
                       Wollacott
         Odimayo  Conroy  Critchlow
KKH                   Reed                 Iandolo
       Williams                 Payne
                        Gilbert
                      Simpson

No defensive cover on the bench.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 13:02:18
Cheers Ö much appreciated  :thumb:

I used to have a rat named Nesta... after Bob.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: scillyred on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 13:12:29
I used to have a rat named Nesta... after Bob.

I havea whippet called Lemmy (Motorhead RIP) :dog: :dog: :dog:


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Saxondale on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 13:21:32
I don't know why we're taking about this, but I have a whippet called Ernie.  After Ernesto 'Che' Guevara in my mind but probably more after the fastest milkman in the west.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 13:28:51
Looks like they have camera problems on iFollow, everything has a strong green tinge.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 13:30:54
No Hunt at all.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 13:32:54

All ok here
Looks like they have camera problems on iFollow, everything has a strong green tinge.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 13:35:40
I see that the they have opened up the side bit to Town fans who want to move from behind the goal.
Looks as if they are catering for an unreserved seating scenario with people standing etc.
Reliably informed by a steward that 10% wastage is allowed for in that case, hence fans being able to move if they need to.
Not much consolation for those unable to get a ticket I guess.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 13:44:09
All ok here
Definate yellow/green edge on the colour, the adverts are fine but the live pictures look very poor.

EDIT: and with that they change it a little, nowhere near as bad but still a bit yellowy.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: RWB Robin on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 13:49:14
The Adver guy appears not to have made it yet! Do you think he has forgotten kick off time!?


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 13:50:39
The Adver guy appears not to have made it yet! Do you think he has forgotten kick off time!?
Probably! :D


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 13:54:31
Town kick off, attacking the home fans first half.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 13:55:07
Critchlow seems to have started at LB in a back 4.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 13:59:21
Nice move down the left by Town finds Gilbert in the box but he runs it out of play from a good position.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:02:41
Good move down the left between Iandolo and Williams but his cross is blocked for a corner.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:04:38
Long ball from Odimayo to Iandolo but he tries a 1st time volley cross but its wild and goes well wide of the target.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:05:39
1st 10 mins Town dominating possession with 75% so far.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:06:49
Nice long pass down the wing on the counter from KKH but Simspon just misscontrols it and it runs into touch.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: magicroundaboutred on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:07:49
Not scored in the first half of any league game this season, hope it changes today.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:09:18
Northampton header onto the post with their first attack.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: adje on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:09:25
Not scored in the first half of any league game this season, hope it changes today.
😮 Did not realise that magic


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Red Frog on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:11:08
Liking Simpson's strength under a challenge. Reminds me of the Chief. When was the last time we had a real beefcake up front?


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:11:09
Good defending by Conroy as they hit us on the break after a shocking short pass by Reed. Corner to them.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:11:39
Header saved by Wollacott.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:12:03
Liking Simpson's strength under a challenge. Reminds me of the Chief. When was the last time we had a real beefcake up front?
Possibly Iffy?


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:12:42
Conroy saves us on the goalline.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:12:58
Well this isn't going especially well.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:13:29
Possibly Iffy?

Calvin Andrew was big. Shit, but big.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Cookie on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:13:49
Northampton bossing this. We look hopeless in the middle again.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:14:52
Paynes touch lets him down again in the middle and puts us under needless pressure.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: magicroundaboutred on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:15:34
Sorry forgot the Carlisle game, my mistake.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Red Frog on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:16:23
Calvin Andrew was big. Shit, but big.

Yep, good shout.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:17:34
Possession means nothing when the opposition take their chances.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:19:12
Good move between Gilbert, Payne and KKH whos cross is blocked for a corner.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Red Frog on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:19:16
Lovely flick round the corner from Gilbert there.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Red Frog on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:20:20
Bloke stole nearly ten yards at that throw while the ref looks on. Second time that's happened.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:22:31
Bloke stole nearly ten yards at that throw while the ref looks on. Second time that's happened.
The ref hasn't given us anything yet.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:25:17
Not scored in the first half of any league game this season, hope it changes today.

😮 Did not realise that magic
Critchlow scored vs Carlisle in the 1st half.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:30:02
Simpson poor with the ball in the box, didnt get a shot or pass in.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Red Frog on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:30:25
Poor from Simpson there.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:31:01
2 poor touches in 30 secs by Simpson, chin up son.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:31:39
Not one chance created - or even a half chance.

Whatís the point of the fancy stuff when the end result is all Julian Clary.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:32:50
Terrible ball from Iandolo to Payne under no pressure.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Pericardinho on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:33:23
Have we had a shot yet?

Gilbert lightweight so far. Simpsons touch has let him down. Reed and Payne have both given the ball away cheaply.

Iandolo probably the only positive spark so far going forward.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:33:49
0-1 poor defending by Town.

Disallowed.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: StefPol on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:34:05
Northampton goal disallowed.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:35:19
Critchlow ruled as being fouled in the build up.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:35:56
Payne runs into the defender on the edge of the box, hes having a very poor game so far.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Red Frog on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:36:06
There was no way he'd take the risk of faking one in that position.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:36:07
Didn't see what happened, but IF Critchlow was fouled then it's a good call from the 4th official.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:36:35
Northampton getting dirty.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:36:57
Didn't see what happened, but IF Critchlow was fouled then it's a good call from the 4th official.
He was, it was.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: StefPol on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:37:34
Fml should have scored.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:37:46
Simpson hits the bar!


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:38:08
Northampton trying to con the ref constantly now.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Red Frog on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:38:09
Oh Simpson.  :no:


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:38:47
Just woke up to check the team news and put the radio on for kick off.
Completely forgot we kicked off an hour early


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:39:04
Phil Smith's getting on my tits.

We didn't 'get away with one' if Critchlow was fouled.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:39:23
3 mins added.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:40:19
Shocking cross from Iandolo, could have put the keeper under real pressure there rather than hoofing it into the box aimlessly.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Red Frog on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:40:42
Phil Smith's getting on my tits.

We didn't 'get away with one' if Critchlow was fouled.

I thought he meant getting it rubbed off by the fourth official when neither ref nor lino had given the foul.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:40:47
Northampton getting very flustered.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:41:47
Foul throw by them, dont see that often!


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:42:27
HT 0-0 pretty even really.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:42:56
The ref hasn't given us anything yet.

I think we can safely say this has now changed!


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:43:43
Is that stand unfinished or is it the design?


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: swindonmaniac on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:45:11
Got out of jail there !! 63% possession,  just got to learn to make possession count, and get some shots on target !!.  We can still nick this one.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:46:40
Complete role reversal on the Port Vale game bar the goals and the press..  Cobblers fans and players totally frustrated which, fingers crossed will lead to the perfect away day outcome..

Hopefully we come out in second half like we did last week..  could do with an early goal to rub the salt in the cobblers wounds..


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: RobertT on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:46:53
Odd game really.  Northampton very slow to start, then looked like they'd just run down our flanks without challenge and create at will, then they lost their heads.

Left back for us is a real problem.  Iandolo has offered little going forward despite being able to get into some good advanced positions and offers nothing in defence.

Both teams seem to have met pre-match to decide we won't bother with central midfielders.  Reed is playing just in front of Conroy (who seems to get bored while on the ball based on some of the loose passes he can put in).  Payne is everywhere but central midfield, Williams is sort of out left and there is a gaping space in the middle.  Oddly, that hasn't been what has exposed us, which must mean Northampton are too busy watching where our players are going.  It's basically 15 passes between defenders and Reed and then a 40 yard ball on the floor forward.

I can see us winning this and losing it.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: donkey on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:47:55
They're bloody good in defence.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and mat
Post by: Batch on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:48:13
meh. poor up front. lucky to be 0-0.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Pericardinho on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:49:16
We look 'better' when we zip the ball forward with pace and find players in the pockets or out wide. It's a shame it's only happened 3 or 4 times that half. Most of it was spent passing it around the back 3 at a snails pace.

Simpson for me always seems like he's trying to sort his feet out. I'm not convinced he's good enough to get us in the top 7. I hope i'm wrong. Its also not his fault that he has this much weight and responsibility on his shoulders.

Let's hope he grows into the game as he has done throughout the season.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Frigby Daser on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:50:50
This feels very last week. Before their non goal, theyíd managed to press mute on the away end. Last 5 much better. Just have purpose.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and mat
Post by: Batch on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:50:58
Quote from: swindonmaniac
Got out of jail there !! 63% possession,  just got to learn to make possession count, and get some shots on target !!.  We can still nick this one.

63% of almost exclusively pointless possession.

that's just fact.

they are too strong in defence physically and will drilled, Simpson has the first touch of.. me...today .

but it's 0-0, and this half might be different


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and mat
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:52:06
63% of almost exclusively pointless possession.

that's just fact.

they are too strong in defence physically and will drilled, Simpson has the first touch of.. me...today .

but it's 0-0, and this half might be different
I doubt itíll be different. We might get it right once or twice - but, fuck me, itís boring.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Cookie on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:54:08
Midfield is anonymous without Grant and our creative players have been shite for the most part. A Garner special half time gee up and we have a good opportunity this 2nd half.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:54:53
63% of almost exclusively pointless possession.

that's just fact.

they are too strong in defence physically and will drilled, Simpson has the first touch of.. me...today .

but it's 0-0, and this half might be different
Absolutely, Simpsons poorest game so far for me.

Possession is pointless when its in our half, Iandolo and Payne look all over the place and really poor, Williams needs to stay out wide left and not so much through the middle.

I would get Iandolo off and push Williams wide left and get Auguiar in the middle let him stretch his legs, he looked decent vs Arsenal.

We won't win this by walking the ball into the net we need some shots from midfield, something Aguiar can do.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:56:01
Away from home, 0-0 at half time. It's fine.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and mat
Post by: Batch on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:56:43
Quote from: Wobbly Bob
Away from home, 0-0 at half time. It's fine.

result wise, it really is. I'd take it at 90

masks the truth though


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:58:28
63% of almost exclusively pointless possession.

that's just fact.

they are too strong in defence physically and will drilled, Simpson has the first touch of.. me...today .

but it's 0-0, and this half might be different

Footballs current obsession with possession stats is infuriating.
Such a pointless stat which can be so easily manipulated


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 14:59:43
As for Ali Koiki, he had a bit of promise when with us but it was all pace and little quality, he is like a left back version of Tyler Reid, lets face it if Rovers fans say he was shit and was freed after just 1 season with them then thats no huge endorsement to his talents!
TBF to Koiki hes done quite well today so far against us.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Red Frog on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:00:44
Reed. How many times???  :crash:


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:01:39
Reed. How many times???  :crash:
Too many.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:01:43
Stop - Giving - the - Fucking - Ball - Away


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Pericardinho on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:01:50
That's the 3rd or 4th time Reed has given it away under little pressure.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:02:15
That should have been a goal against us from that corner, got away with that.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:04:48
Bit of a dive by the defender there under no pressure from Simpson.

I think the ref is trying to even it up.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:04:52
Cobblers have been well drilled at the Thompson flop


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:05:54
Cobblers have been well drilled at the Thompson flop
"Doing a Grant".


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:06:20
Silly challenge by Conroy earns him a yellow.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nijholts Nuts on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:08:13
Goodness Phil Smith is doing a great in pushing Hockaday for #1  Irritating BBC Wilts Co Comms


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:09:18
Goodness Phil Smith is doing a great in pushing Hockaday for #1  Irritating BBC Wilts Co Comms
He is, saying KKH was lucky to get away with that dribble, the ball never got near going out of play.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Red Frog on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:09:52
Just no interplay in our attempts to attack today.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:10:23
Shot by the Cobblers defender, well high and wide, should have hit the target.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:10:55
1-0 Simpson!


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Red Frog on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:11:03
Simpson! This time. Simple.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:11:28
Shot by the Cobblers defender, well high and wide, should have hit the target.

Get the fuck in there. Knighthood for Tyresse Simpson.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Pericardinho on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:11:43
I love being proved wrong. Well in Simpson.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Miles Mayhem on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:11:47
The lads on fire


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JBZ on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:11:58
Good lad


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:12:09
Nice play down the right by KKH who finds Gilbert int he box, his deflected cross finds Simspon unmarked in the middle 8 yards out who buries it in the net through 2 defenders.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:12:15
Simpson, eh?


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:12:57
Get the fuck in there. Knighthood for Tyresse Simpson.

I wonder if winless Ipswich have the ability to recall.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:13:14
Just to add to the Cobblers frustrations - lovely stuff


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:13:25
TBF Simpson was having a mare but all he needs to do is score really :)


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:13:36
Simpson, eh?

Yeah, fancy that. 1-0 to the Arsenal, opps, Swindon.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:13:43
I wonder if winless Ipswich have the ability to recall.
Not until January.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:13:56
Lovely.

Does anyone else get almost constant "the last post from your IP was less than five seconds ago" messages from matchday threads btw? Not sure if it just thinks we all have the same IP. Maybe we do? Are we all figments of Ben's imagination?


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:14:25
Iandolo heads just wide from 4 yards out, great cross by KKH.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Red Frog on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:14:45
Just no interplay in our attempts to attack today.

And suddenly we're attacking with pace and accuracy, down both sides.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:14:57
Lovely.

Does anyone else get almost constant "the last post from your IP was less than five seconds ago" messages from matchday threads btw? Not sure if it just thinks we all have the same IP. Maybe we do? Are we all figments of Ben's imagination?

I get it regularly. Bloody annoying but itís there to stop spam flooding.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:15:12
I wonder if winless Ipswich have the ability to recall.

Not until January I wouldn't have thought..  I believe that Norwood was our main target in the transfer window, until he got injured, so there might be some legs in that..  but not until January


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:16:05
We have woken up the last 5 mins.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Red Frog on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:16:10
Lovely.

Does anyone else get almost constant "the last post from your IP was less than five seconds ago" messages from matchday threads btw? Not sure if it just thinks we all have the same IP. Maybe we do? Are we all figments of Ben's imagination?

Yes, really annoying isn't it.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:17:02
Koiki goes down under little contact, Northampton seem good at doing that!


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:18:04
Lovely.

Does anyone else get almost constant "the last post from your IP was less than five seconds ago"

Yep


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:19:01
Not until January I wouldn't have thought..  I believe that Norwood was our main target in the transfer window, until he got injured, so there might be some legs in that..  but not until January

Well letís hope Ipswich hit some form/score some goals/desperately need him off the wage bill/want to sell him for 50k


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:19:52
Long ball to Simspon but he cant get much of a connection trying to chip the keeper.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:20:13
Well letís hope Ipswich hit some form/score some goals/desperately need him off the wage bill/want to sell him for 50k
We wouldnít be allowed to buy him anyway - unless we pay back the EFL loan.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:21:39
Good defending header by Conroy gives away a corner.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:21:59
What a save by Wollacott!


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Red Frog on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:22:11
JoJo buys us another life.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:22:21
Cobblers players really getting frustrated! lovely!


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:22:28
We wouldnít be allowed to buy him anyway - unless we pay back the EFL loan.

It's not January yet though, who knows what the situation will be by then


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:23:22
It's not January yet though, who knows what the situation will be by then
I understand the loan will definately be paid back by January.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:23:35
Gladwin on for Williams.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:24:01
Williams is full of running, Gladwin, often less so.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:24:13
I understand the loan will definately be paid back by January.
Excellent news if that happens!


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:24:22
Koiki goes down under little contact, Northampton seem good at doing that!

Be an exciting game of diving with style when they meet P. Vale.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:24:59
If for whatever reason Ipswich weíre desperate to sell him to us for 50k Iím sure there would be a way around not doing it as a Ďtraditioní transfer.

Not that, that scenario is likely anyway.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:25:20
Desperate defending by Town ends with an overhead kick well wide by them.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:25:48
Simpson almost unmarked shoots straight at the keeper.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:26:22
I understand the loan will definately be paid back by January.

Yeah, that is what I have been led to believe - hence why Clem winked when he said he would be back for the transfer window on the Monday night panel - if we are still in a strong position I fully expect us to reinforce in January


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:29:00
JML on for Gilbert.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Red Frog on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:30:32
Silly push by Odimayo puts us in danger.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:30:33
Odimayo losing focus and fouling the striker 30 yards out.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:30:54
Poor delivery and finish luckily.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:31:05
I can't see Ipswich selling Simpson for 50k. Would love to be wrong.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Red Frog on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:31:29
Getting sloppy at the back now.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:31:30
Northampton miss a chance at the near post after us messing around at the back.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:32:15
I can't see Ipswich selling Simpson for 50k. Would love to be wrong.
I guess it depends if that was the fee arrange prior to his loan transfer, maybe but unlikely.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:32:54
If fairness I just threw out 50k as a complete random value fwiw


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Summerof69 on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:34:04
Wovers getting dicked 3-0 at home by Orient


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:34:10
Poor touch by Iandolo as we are attacking there.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:34:52
Iandolo is winding me right up today - seems so slow and lethargic and way too laid back with the passing


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:34:59
If fairness I just threw out 50k as a complete random value fwiw
Oh I think we guessed that but it could be a feasible fee for an untried untested young striker.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:35:45
Iandolo is winding me right up today - seems so slow and lethargic and way too laid back with the passing
Hes having an awful game again IMO. A weak link.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:36:26
Northampton players gpoing down like they are being snipered under any challenge.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:36:34
Oh I think we guessed that but it could be a feasible fee for an untried untested young striker.

Is he that young?  I thought he was mid/late 20's


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:37:04
1-1.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:37:05
Left back / left wing back hasnít been a great position full stop this season.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:37:40
Odimayo lost his man for the corner.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:37:45
Left back / left wing back hasnít been a great position full stop this season.

It probably doesn't help that our options for that position pretty much all involving someone playing out of position - be that a right back, a central midfielder or whatever Iandolo is.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:38:18
Is he that young?  I thought he was mid/late 20's

Heís 26.
No thatís Louie Thompson.

Simpson is 19


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:39:44
It probably doesn't help that our options for that position pretty much all involving someone playing out of position - be that a right back, a central midfielder or whatever Iandolo is.

I assume that Crichlow was bought into play left back with the hope Baudry wasnt a complete injury prone cart horse


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:40:13
Gladwin gives away a free in a bad position.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:40:37
Good save by Wollacott.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:40:54
Is he that young?  I thought he was mid/late 20's
Simpson?


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:41:39
Gladwin nice pass wide to KKH who finds Simspon but his shot is very weak.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:42:09
Simpson?

Norwood


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:42:41
Norwood
I was talking about Simpson :)


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:44:47
I was talking about Simpson :)

I think there is a whole heap of confusion around the whole subject :D


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:44:52
4 mins added time.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:45:25
Simpson gets the ball between his feet in a great position, corner to Town.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:47:26
3 chances in a row for Town, cant get the shot on target though.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:48:05
Scunthorpe is the only game weíve scored more than once


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:48:50
1-1 pretty fair result.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:49:09
Decent point. Not much new learned, we have some pretty clear weaknesses but there's a decent side in there too. Grant back next week should help balance the side a bit.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:49:35
I'll take that


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:50:13
A point away at the Cobblers, good point in my opinion.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:50:35
Att: 5,863 with 962 Town fans.

in front of 5,845 fans with 946 (officially) Swindon fans there.
Even closer than last week :)


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:51:58
Good away point. Better second half, probably a fair result overall.

I don't know what it takes to cut out the sloppy passing but we need to do that, whatever it is.

And as much as I appreciate improving in the second half, it would be alright if we played OK in the 1st half as well. Hopefully the general will help us control games better again.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: hobnob on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:54:04
Can we play away every week?

If only we had a cutting edge, where are Doyle and Yates when you need them?


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: RobertT on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:54:45
The good - the result given we could have lost that, Simpson could and should have had a hat-trick today, we look very good when we flick the switch.

The bad - Iandolo, just plain awful I'm afraid.  Payne - everywhere but where you need a central midfielder to control a game.  Defending free kicks and corners - the high line is fine but don't keep leaving a man 30 yards of space out wide and far too passive on corners.

The ugly - I'm calling this early and hope it comes back to bite me.  Garner is not going to make a good Manager, we are a tactical mess at times.  He is clearly a very good coach - you can see that in the way the team plays, but he looks like he lacks that little something extra to manage a game.  The amount of times we were beaten at the left back position from free kicks on our right was criminal.  A couple of times fine, but to not adjust anything is a big red flag for me.  I don't think he is as ineffective as Williams turned out to be, and he will no doubt help the development of young players, but he needs someone in his team who can be more ruthless tactically.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:56:13
Good away point. Better second half, probably a fair result overall.

I don't know what it takes to cut out the sloppy passing but we need to do that, whatever it is.

And as much as I appreciate improving in the second half, it would be alright if we played OK in the 1st half as well. Hopefully the general will help us control games better again.

I don't know what it takes to cut out the sloppy passing but we need to do that, whatever it is.

Div1 players playing in Div2 and next season championship players playing in Div1.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:57:39
Looking ahead, the next two games ought to deliver 6 points out of 6.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: hobnob on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 15:57:49
Joey and his Merry men getting a good dicking again is a bonus!


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 16:01:49
Could have won it, could have lost it.

I presume the dull as ditchwater first halves are part of the Garner masterclass in tactics. Why, oh why, canít we play like we do in the 2nd halves.

Personally, Garner isnít a manager. Seems bereft of tactics.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 16:14:04
Well, we've sold out the away end (946) 5 days before the game, but we are not getting any more  :doh:

I'm sure we'll have well over a 1,000 there  :D

Won't be an easy game.

I'll go for 1-1 att: 5,833 (946 away*)



* officially  :)

30 out  :toocool:


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 16:37:03
Happy with the point.
Yes there are some creases that need ironing but there is enough there to be lingering in & around the top 10, then lets see what happens in January.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: stfcjack on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 16:37:10
How comes there were stfc fans in the side stand, I thought it was only behind the goal we had?


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 16:42:20
I think they allowed an overflow from fans that didnít want to be behind the goal.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JoeMezz on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 17:07:06
Agree that second half performances are tending to be a lot better than the first. Simpson took his goal well but missed 2 other brilliant chances. Draw probably fair they had a few chances too. Weíre definitely short to go up squad wise, but from where we were at, itís some achievement. Top half at January and letís see if we can build the squad moreÖ


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JBZ on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 17:10:28
Those who expect a win every week will have been disappointed. A draw seems like a decent outcome.  Distracted this weekend by T20 finals day


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 17:11:43
Good away point. Better second half, probably a fair result overall.

I don't know what it takes to cut out the sloppy passing but we need to do that, whatever it is.

And as much as I appreciate improving in the second half, it would be alright if we played OK in the 1st half as well. Hopefully the general will help us control games better again.

PL standard players. You might get away with Championship players.

Iím sorry, I donít wish to appear rude but weíre in div two. We have mainly div two players. For us old Ďunís that is league four. I have long thought that with the saturation of top class football at the touch of a handset that the expectations of the average fan are placed way higher than the reality of their home town club, who largely sit outside the top tier of football.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Frigby Daser on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 17:25:48
A case of what could have been today. Youíd have bet Simpson would take one of the two 1-on1s that he had. More purpose second half was a positive. But a bench full of midfielders. Literally not one striker or defenderÖ that tells you we have an imbalanced squad. Plymouth got Agard, and Northampton got Koiki as free agents.  Neither are world beaters, but both players that would improve our squad. We need Lyden and Grant.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 17:26:54
Non-league players can pass a ball to their teammate a few metres away. They do it all the time, and most of our opponents this season have also been able to pass to their teammates without fucking up as often as we do. Blaming it on the players' ability is demonstrably false. Blaming it on "we're in league 2" is demonstrably bollocks. These are professional footballers.

Theres' something else behind it. Tactics? Training? Psychology? Not clicking yet? I don't know... but these players clearly have the ability to pass a ball to a teammate in space and when not under pressure. Alas...

And I'm not trying to have a go at Garner. I find it baffling that some people are judging him negatively considering the handicap he started with, and our league position.

But I don't buy that it's down to "league 2 players". Especially considering some of ours have played higher.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: donkey on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 17:31:36
Simpson, eh?

Woo-hoo!


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 17:33:09
Non-league players can pass a ball to their teammate a few metres away. They do it all the time, and most of our opponents this season have also been able to pass to their teammates without fucking up as often as we do. Blaming it on the players' ability is demonstrably false. Blaming it on "we're in league 2" is demonstrably bollocks. These are professional footballers.

Theres' something else behind it. Tactics? Training? Psychology? Not clicking yet? I don't know... but these players clearly have the ability to pass a ball to a teammate in space and when not under pressure. Alas...

And I'm not trying to have a go at Garner. I find it baffling that some people are judging him negatively considering the handicap he started with, and our league position.

But I don't buy that it's down to "league 2 players". Especially considering some of ours have played higher.

Plying their trade in league two, for a reason.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 17:37:54
Plying their trade in league two, for a reason.

Yet, most of the other players playing for other teams in L2 "for a reason", are able to make simple passes?

It's clearly bollocks. We see L2 players making simple passes all the time so to claim they can't do it when we see them actually do the thing you claim they can't do makes no sense.

And I know all players will make the odd mishap, but that's not what's happening here.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 17:43:21
30 out  :toocool:

in front of 5,845 fans with 946 (officially) Swindon fans there.
19 out ;)


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: REDBUCK on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 17:47:37
It's all about the concentration


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 17:51:41
The two idiots who threw the bottles onto the pitch just fuck off.
Stewards today were excellent.

Two contrasting styles, fair result and a decent game.
Could have gone either way.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 17:52:36
Non-league players can pass a ball to their teammate a few metres away. They do it all the time, and most of our opponents this season have also been able to pass to their teammates without fucking up as often as we do. Blaming it on the players' ability is demonstrably false. Blaming it on "we're in league 2" is demonstrably bollocks. These are professional footballers.

Theres' something else behind it. Tactics? Training? Psychology? Not clicking yet? I don't know... but these players clearly have the ability to pass a ball to a teammate in space and when not under pressure. Alas...

And I'm not trying to have a go at Garner. I find it baffling that some people are judging him negatively considering the handicap he started with, and our league position.

But I don't buy that it's down to "league 2 players". Especially considering some of ours have played higher.
I donít judge him negatively as such but because he has stated emphatically he will not deviate from the style, even though it is becoming apparent we need some physicality around the pitch. I canít see how the players will get any better at executing Garnerís style no matter how many games they play.

It works for, say, Man City because their players, almost to a man, are superior to their opponents. Ours are not. They are the same standard but are being asked to play in a supposed superior style.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 17:52:59
Listen FH. Weíre doing great. Itís not great at times but weíre doing great all things considered. Want passes that are 90% accurate that are more than five metres away from their teammate? Then youíll have to wait until weíre in the championship, or we can afford to get players who can.

I said a while ago that we could be the 1-0 to the Arsenal this season because we donít have the cash to go out and buy a forward line who can emulate Doyle & Yates and a midfield who can supply the guns. I still think that is the case. I also said that weíre in a way dipping our toes into the water with the assembled squad until our finances have a more stable and firmer footing until the January transfer window. A view Iíve not changed. If we are there or there a bouts at the end of the festive period then the shackles on the bank account will be unleashed. Lest we forget, Digger has stated that he will NOT be taking any cash from the club. Can you imagine how much extra bunce will be available to BG & BC to bolster the team in the 2nd half of the season? There are from what I have seen to be enough positives from all the home games and Cambs (A) to suggest the the footings and first course of bricks are strong enough to keep us up within a reasonable lick of the top pack once the second half of the season commences. Until then there will be games we lose but shouldnít, games we win but shouldnít games we draw and feel lucky either way.

So if you pardon my gib, weíre fucking doing ok. Could be better? Yes, because weíre STFC and deserve more. Could be worse? Yes, because we deserve better. Is the future bright? HELL YES, the future is bright and not fucking Orange, it is RED.

I enjoy your posts and mainly others in spite of the shit dished out my way. I take a wider view that in spite of our opinions and differences we all support the same club with the same wishes and aspirations. It is good so far considering where we were.

Enjoy your evening everyone and the weekend. Today was an immense result, really, it was. At the EOTS youíll look at the results and I think point a finger at this game and say Ďthere, that was when it all clicked Ď with a changed team, not for the first time and not necessarily the strongest line up, it worked against a very stingy team.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 17:53:45
It's all about the concentration

Something like that I reckon. Not concentrating enough, or maybe concentrating too much?

I dunno. Again, I'm not having a go at Garner - just passing on an observation - but I reckon this kind of stuff is down to man management or training or some other gubbins rather than the physical attributes of the players.

And I still think it's too soon to expect us to click yet, so some of these criticisms (mine included) are a tad premature methinks.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 17:57:09
How the hell do you improve concentration? Nobody fails to concentrate on purpose. Itís just what some do.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 17:57:49
Want passes that are 90% accurate that are more than five metres away from their teammate?

I've seen it often.

In L2!


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 18:02:19
Its not criticisms its observations of where we can and should improve things.

I think we are all pretty happy with how its gone so far this season, just look at pre season favourites HMS piss the league Gas to see what could easily have happened early doors, 3rd bottom and another home defeat with 6 defeats in the first 10 games.

Its just tweaking really that we need and not wholesale changes at all, but I would like to see us mix things up a little, as most have said we have some good players but TBH most are in L2 because thats their level, even though almost all have played at a higher level than this it doesn't mean they are good enough to play there regularly.

It could all click into place, it may not, time will tell.

As it stands I think we are all fairly happy with it so far over all.



Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 18:04:17
How the hell do you improve concentration? Nobody fails to concentrate on purpose. Itís just what some do.

I'm buggered if I know, but I'm confident that pressure and confidence has a lot to do with it.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Saxondale on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 18:05:37
How the hell do you improve concentration? Nobody fails to concentrate on purpose. Itís just what some do.

Well what you do is

Oh look a squirrel!

Sorry what was I saying?


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 18:17:40
I can be quite a handy pool player at times. There were some nights you couldnít get me off the table (youíd be on until you were beaten). On my night I was unbeatable. At other times, however, I was useless. I couldnít even pot a ball that was sitting over the pocket with nothing else in the way.

I know what the difference wasÖ those times when I was useless I was thinking about it too much. When I was unbeatable, which is usually when Iíd been partaking in the consumption of certain substances, I didnít think about the shots I was taking. I just took them. And they went in. But when I was thinking about the shot trying to make it perfect - I fucked up.

From my experience, I think that some of our players might be thinking about their passes too much instead of just fucking making them. And I think that is down to confidence.

So the moral of the story is to take a load of coke and E before playing football.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 19:05:55
I can be quite a handy pool player at times. There were some nights you couldnít get me off the table (youíd be on until you were beaten). On my night I was unbeatable. At other times, however, I was useless. I couldnít even pot a ball that was sitting over the pocket with nothing else in the way.

I know what the difference wasÖ those times when I was useless I was thinking about it too much. When I was unbeatable, which is usually when Iíd been partaking in the consumption of certain substances, I didnít think about the shots I was taking. I just took them. And they went in. But when I was thinking about the shot trying to make it perfect - I fucked up.

From my experience, I think that some of our players might be thinking about their passes too much instead of just fucking making them. And I think that is down to confidence.

So the moral of the story is to take a load of coke and E before playing football.


I get that.

Not remotely the same standard as are current players (obviously) but I was much more likely to bury and blink and youíll miss it half chance in the box than a one on one when youíre playing a guessing game with the keeper as to who is going to what and in which order.

As for STFC, nothing new. We lack balance, depth in certain positions and have no plan b & on occasions our game plan seems to be retain possession for the sake of it. This hasnít change since last week or the week before or the week before.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 19:19:22
My twopenneth.

The first half was poor. No dressing it up. We were slow to attack and were out muscled when we did. Having Simpson up top on his own was not working.

Northampton did take 10 to warm up, but once they got going they were comfortably on top. A post, a  soft foul on their goal  (I think) and Conroy stopped us going in behind. 0-0 was clearly flattering, but it still gave us a chance.

Second half we obviously improved. Give Simpson some credit on an otherwise off day but he took his goal well. And for 10/15 minutes thereafter we were playing very well. Knocking on the door it look to be a matter of time before another followed. Simpson should have made it 2-0 really, he got the reasonably well stuck shot on target, but straight at the keeper.

Northampton held on and came back in it, though we remained far better than the first half. The corner looked poorly defended, but to be honest I need to watch it again because the goal net/crossbar was obscuring a clear view.

That said, we still had one more golden opportunity to win it,  Simpson again showing the lack of finish that a Doyle or Yates would have buried. That's not to say he's not improved, just that today wasn't his day. It remains criminal to have one recognised striker in this squad, of that you will not change my mind.

But 1-1 away from home when we could have been dead and buried in the first half is a good point. We again showed glimpses of what we could do. And most of the first half showing that passing around without purposes is pointless.

Not sure which way the season will go, right now we'll be mid table I think. But we could easily go up with a bit of tweaking and a striker and left back in January. I am however convinced we'll be nowhere near the relegation battle, which is a massive relief.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Frigby Daser on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 20:16:04
Whilst a Doyle or Yates may well have finished the Simpson chances, Iím not convinced theyíd have got there in the first place - Simpson used his strength well for both, just didnít pull the trigger on the first, and lacked composure with the second. Gladwin also had a decent chance cutting back, which would have been similar to the Scunthorpe goal, but got crowded out too soon. The most frustrating thing is how close the team is to being a genuinely decent side - within touching distance - and I just think Lyden and Grant could be the answer. That allows Payne and Williams to play wide and avoid the acres of space that the midfield 3 vacated today.

Also, huge positive to see the grey Topman hoodie ditched by Garner today for a t shirt/gilet combo. As we progress towards winter, Iím anticipating full progression to socks.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 20:18:00
It's almost as though they've not had enough time to gel yet...


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JBZ on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 20:20:17
The 'it's still preseason' ship has since sailed


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and mat
Post by: Batch on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 20:22:49
a fair observation Frigby


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 20:25:04
The 'it's still preseason' ship has since sailed

Not for me.

I gave it 10 games before the season kicked off. I didn't get any objections at the time.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JBZ on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 20:36:02
Absent any significant change in playing personnel, I suspect that the season will play out in a similar fashion. A finish in or around 10th place would represent a more than respectable result.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 22:10:30
Whilst a Doyle or Yates may well have finished the Simpson chances, Iím not convinced theyíd have got there in the first place - Simpson used his strength well for both, just didnít pull the trigger on the first, and lacked composure with the second. Gladwin also had a decent chance cutting back, which would have been similar to the Scunthorpe goal, but got crowded out too soon. The most frustrating thing is how close the team is to being a genuinely decent side - within touching distance - and I just think Lyden and Grant could be the answer. That allows Payne and Williams to play wide and avoid the acres of space that the midfield 3 vacated today.

Also, huge positive to see the grey Topman hoodie ditched by Garner today for a t shirt/gilet combo. As we progress towards winter, Iím anticipating full progression to socks.

Great to meet you today Mate.
Want to see that flag 👍


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Ardiles on Saturday, September 18, 2021, 23:39:57
Great to meet you today Mate.
Want to see that flag 👍

It's on the drawing board.  It will happen.  : )


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 07:52:55
The extended highlights donít show us in a good light. Virtually all Cobblers. Apart from Simpsonís goal all we showed were his 2 other chances - the bar and the keeper save.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 08:44:06
It's on the drawing board.  It will happen.  : )

Never in any doubt.
Been along time Mate, good to catch up 👍


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 09:23:18
I've seen it often.

In L2!

Back it up then. I think youíre being to harsh.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Pookemon on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 09:35:34
Just listened to the post match interview and was surprised that BG thought that we started well in the first 20 mins.  It certainly wasn't a bad start but we didn't have a shot for over half an hour and could easily have conceded a couple.

Perhaps he's overstating it for confidence.

Also I hope Simpson misunderstood the question.  Hawes asked what energy he got from the away end and he said that we were negative towards him and the team.

I can only think he was talking about the Northampton fans as I didn't hear any negativity, a bit of frustration at times but we were vocal and have a new song for him.  

All good apart from the couple of bottle throwing idiots.  They got a mouthful from plenty around them.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 11:06:09
Yet, most of the other players playing for other teams in L2 "for a reason", are able to make simple passes?

It's clearly bollocks. We see L2 players making simple passes all the time so to claim they can't do it when we see them actually do the thing you claim they can't do makes no sense.

And I know all players will make the odd mishap, but that's not what's happening here.
You are making it sound like we can't do those passes at all. e make the same mistakes other teams do but we try it more than they do. Infact our pass completion has been higher in every single game we have played , other teams are giving it away more than we do


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 11:12:14
Infact our pass completion has been higher in every single game we have played , other teams are giving it away more than we do
You are of course right, but other teams aren't giving the ball away in what is very often an incredibly dangerous positions, they give the ball away in midfield or in attack, we more consistantly give it away while playing out from the back instantly putting us under needless pressure.

Also a huge amount of our possession is in totally inert positions, in our half, interplay between defenders, not in positions that will hurt the opposition.

Its still early days and hopefully many of the errors we are showing now will be ironed out on the trainign pitch.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 11:16:19
We need to play with more intensity and more intent.


Title: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and mat
Post by: Batch on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 11:18:23
pass completion % is entirely pointless without context.

it could be 100% when not under pressure, and 2%  when trying to open the opposition

but I don't know what/how statistics are interpreted by the club. you think they would break it down far more than the single figure us fans get.

it's sure to show that the first half was ploddy, and only the spell after the goal really showed what we are trying to achieve


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 11:20:18
You are making it sound like we can't do those passes at all. e make the same mistakes other teams do but we try it more than they do. Infact our pass completion has been higher in every single game we have played , other teams are giving it away more than we do

Nope.

That's not what I'm saying at all, not even close and that's quite some twist you're putting onto what I'm saying. Of course we make these passes often, but I don't recall other teams giving the ball away easily as often as we do.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 11:22:41
The stats say they give it away more. It's not a twist at all i am responding to your own words


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 11:26:31
On a separate note though i do think we need to start seeing a bit more from our attacking players. We are crying out for a midfielder who can carry the ball through the middle at the moment. I thought Williams was very poor yesterday


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and mat
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 11:29:00
pass completion % is entirely pointless without context.

it could be 100% when not under pressure, and 2%  when trying to open the opposition

but I don't know what/how statistics are interpreted by the club. you think they would break it down far more than the single figure us fans get.

it's sure to show that the first half was ploddy, and only the spell after the goal really showed what we are trying to achieve
Not sure they are irrelevent with this situation though, just responding to posts saying they can't complete 5 yeard passes etc. Agree i thought 1st half was a bit poor but on the balance of chances a draw was probably fair i thought


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 11:31:05
The stats say they give it away more. It's not a twist at all i am responding to your own words

For the record: I categorically am not saying that we cannot play these passes at all, so you don't need to go there anymore.

And I don't care what the stats say. I watch the games myself and I know what I see.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 11:34:51
Just listened to the post match interview and was surprised that BG thought that we started well in the first 20 mins.  It certainly wasn't a bad start but we didn't have a shot for over half an hour and could easily have conceded a couple.

Perhaps he's overstating it for confidence.

Also I hope Simpson misunderstood the question.  Hawes asked what energy he got from the away end and he said that we were negative towards him and the team.

I can only think he was talking about the Northampton fans as I didn't hear any negativity, a bit of frustration at times but we were vocal and have a new song for him.
 

All good apart from the couple of bottle throwing idiots.  They got a mouthful from plenty around them.
Yeah, I did a double take when I heard that and had to listen again. I'm sure you're right though, he must have thought Hawes was asking about the home fans. The away support was excellent once again and totally behind the team throughout...


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 11:40:41
For the record: I categorically am not saying that we cannot play these passes at all, so you don't need to go there anymore.

And I don't care what the stats say. I watch the games myself and I know what I see.
You said

Yet, most of the other players playing for other teams in L2 "for a reason", are able to make simple passes?

I read that as you were saying we can't make simple passes like other teams can, the stats are quite important in what i was replying to mate.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 11:55:44
I repeat:

"For the record: I categorically am not saying that we cannot play these passes at all, so you don't need to go there anymore."

I don't think I could be any clearer.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JBZ on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 12:04:56
In addition to focusing too heavily on certain stats, watching matches exclusively on ifollow can mean that one misses out on subtle nuances that are apparent when watching live.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 12:08:09
I repeat:

"For the record: I categorically am not saying that we cannot play these passes at all, so you don't need to go there anymore."

I don't think I could be any clearer.
You said that after though mate ffs. If you had actually said that before i posted i wouldn't have responded to you saying we couldn't surely?


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 12:14:12
You said that after though mate ffs. If you had actually said that before i posted i wouldn't have responded to you saying we couldn't surely?

So?

At no point did I say what you keep on insisting on what I said. That's your strawman.

I don't understand why you're persisting with this. I've clarified my position.





Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 12:29:19
So?

At no point did I say what you keep on insisting on what I said. That's your strawman.

I don't understand why you're persisting with this. I've clarified my position.




Ha i am not persisting. I am responding to you saying what you said. You didn't mean it in the way you posted it, thats fine. Like I said I wouldn't have responded initially if you had posted you weren't implying we can't pass 5 yards as well other teams before I posted.

No need to get so dramatic every time mate, someone disagrees with you, it's fine


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 12:32:18
Before I comment on the game I would like to address two very frequently made points...

a) I don't care what happens this season, I'm just just thankful to still have a team to support

b)We had no pre-season


I agree and endorse the above comments 1000% BUT...we move on, things change. We have a new owner thank God (pretty decent one it would appear). We've brought in some very decent players for our level so whilst I'm delighted to still have a team to support, I wouldn't be at all happy with finishing third from bottom (and I'm sure we won't)...and as for the 'pre-season' thing, we're 10 games in now, in addition to the few actual pre-season games we did play. So we're well and truly past that. The above points should not deflect any criticism away from the players and coaching staff.

You also hear people saying 'We're still gelling as a team'....I'm not buying that either. As far is that goes I'd say we've gelled pretty well. That's not the reason we can't play a decent, incisive ball in the final third, or get to the byline and get a decent cross in or quite simply HAVE. A. SHOT. AT. GOAL....rocket science it isn't. Am I imagining it or was Kaine Kessler Hayden's only decent game for us up at Scunthorpe on the opening day? It's the same sort of situation as with Williams and Gilbert. It's like any positive instincts or intentions they may have is being coached out of them. Posession is a national obsession and seems to be something Garner subscribes to but it means sweet FA without an end product.


The only thing stopping us making the play offs or better is 'Garnerball'...he acknowledges that we're not good in the final third but time and again he does nothing about it. Those first 20 minutes which he thinks were 'brilliant'...Northampton only had to stand there while we huffed and puffed. He mentions the final third in passing as an aside but it's the be all and end all Garner FFS...

I had high hopes that Williams and Gilbert starting would give us more direction and a cutting edge but they just seem to have fallen in to line with how the rest of the team are playing. And I thought Williams was a winger? He just seemed to be wandering around in the middle not doing much of anything.

Yeah...a point's a point, we're lucky to have a team to support, we have a new owner who has done and said all the right things to this point and fair play to him.

We could be doing so much better though.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 12:36:09
pass completion % is entirely pointless without context.

it could be 100% when not under pressure, and 2%  when trying to open the opposition

but I don't know what/how statistics are interpreted by the club. you think they would break it down far more than the single figure us fans get.

it's sure to show that the first half was ploddy, and only the spell after the goal really showed what we are trying to achieve

Similar to possession percentage. Absolutely pointless stat on its own. You break it down into thirds and it itís slightly better data. Iíd imagine the large majority of our possession is in our own third.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 12:37:10
I agree totally OST.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 12:37:40
On a separate note though i do think we need to start seeing a bit more from our attacking players. We are crying out for a midfielder who can carry the ball through the middle at the moment. I thought Williams was very poor yesterday

Donít get the hype with Williams.
One run and cross against Mansfield but little else so far.

Be interesting to know how many of his former clubs rate him.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 12:38:06
Iíd imagine the large majority of our possession is in our own third.
I would say that more than 50% of our total possession is in our defensive 3rd, probably nearer 75% in our own half.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 12:44:09
I would say that more than 50% of our total possession is in our defensive 3rd, probably nearer 75% in our own half.

Certainly feels like it. I donít suppose that information is readily available though.

Iíd say itís probably split about 60/30/10 and a chunk of that 30 in the middle is just outside are third and the ball being passed back into it.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 12:46:20
Those figures sound close to what I would think too.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and mat
Post by: Batch on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 12:47:19
But the thing is that the stat, whatever the breakdown, must be available to the coaching staff.

In which case there is a chance to address it.

well, hopefully.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 12:49:27
Before I comment on the game I would like to address two very frequently made points...

a) I don't care what happens this season, I'm just just thankful to still have a team to support

b)We had no pre-season


I agree and endorse the above comments 1000% BUT...we move on, things change. We have a new owner thank God (pretty decent one it would appear). We've brought in some very decent players for our level so whilst I'm delighted to still have a team to support, I wouldn't be at all happy with finishing third from bottom (and I'm sure we won't)...and as for the 'pre-season' thing, we're 10 games in now, in addition to the few actual pre-season games we did play. So we're well and truly past that. The above points should not deflect any criticism away from the players and coaching staff.

You also hear people saying 'We're still gelling as a team'....I'm not buying that either. As far is that goes I'd say we've gelled pretty well. That's not the reason we can't play a decent, incisive ball in the final third, or get to the byline and get a decent cross in or quite simply HAVE. A. SHOT. AT. GOAL....rocket science it isn't. Am I imagining it or was Kaine Kessler Hayden's only decent game for us up at Scunthorpe on the opening day? It's the same sort of situation as with Williams and Gilbert. It's like any positive instincts or intentions they may have is being coached out of them. Posession is a national obsession and seems to be something Garner subscribes to but it means sweet FA without an end product.


The only thing stopping us making the play offs or better is 'Garnerball'...he acknowledges that we're not good in the final third but time and again he does nothing about it. Those first 20 minutes which he thinks were 'brilliant'...Northampton only had to stand there while we huffed and puffed. He mentions the final third in passing as an aside but it's the be all and end all Garner FFS...

I had high hopes that Williams and Gilbert starting would give us more direction and a cutting edge but they just seem to have fallen in to line with how the rest of the team are playing. And I thought Williams was a winger? He just seemed to be wandering around in the middle not doing much of anything.

Yeah...a point's a point, we're lucky to have a team to support, we have a new owner who has done and said all the right things to this point and fair play to him.

We could be doing so much better though.

Very good post.
Early day but Garnerball feels like a hindrance rather than a positive.
I mean Garnerball is a good way to go but we need more. Garnerball + more attack or Garnerball but 30 yards further up the pitch or slightly less Garnerball and bit more agriculture or Garnerball up a gear.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 12:50:04
Surely thats why we employ a data/performance analyst?

He should be producing these reports for Garner/staff so they can work on these areas.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and mat
Post by: Batch on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 12:55:00
as long as we don't become a Luke Williams type team, of which there are currently some parallels.

That nearly sucked the STFC life out of me.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Private Fraser on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 13:17:58
I'm sure the Club will have the detailed 'heat maps' to show where the majority of passing and ball-winning/losing takes place. I haven't located that level of detail yet but there are some interesting numbers on these two sites.

https://www.fotmob.com/leagues/109/stats/season/16393/teams/accurate_pass_team/league-2

https://fbref.com/en/comps/16/League-Two-Stats

We might create more good scoring chances if we crossed the ball more often!


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 13:28:38
Having the data is one thing.
Perceiving that there is actually a problem and rectifying it is a completely different thing.
It might just be Garner keeping up appearances but what he says in the media certainly implies that he sees no issue with our current tactics / style of play.

If Garner truly, truly, honestly, definitely, definitively believes that - heís not going to take us very far.

Football fans opinions are like arseholes as the saying goes but if we all have the same one and Garner doesnít maybe his is the odd one out.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 13:29:43
I think the reason i get a bit defensive about it all is that there seems to be a huge lack of perspective at the moment regarding our team.

To give you an idea Odimayo has played more games than 9 of the payers involved yesterday combined. We can't expect these players to be street wise and savvy after just 8 league games. Added to that that a few have been away on international we still have not had time to get a consistent team yet but we are still creating chances

I just don't get the arguments either at times. Yesterday for example i am seeing we are toothless and not creating chances yet Tyreece Simpson is getting pelters for missing sitters. We created chances galore yesterday against a team that has not conceded more than 1 goal a game  


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: theakston2k on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 13:30:00
I would say that more than 50% of our total possession is in our defensive 3rd, probably nearer 75% in our own half.
Gotta say Iím getting fed up of the club on Twitter banging on about our players being top of the pass completion %ís or banging on about the number of passes Conroy has made. I may be in the minority but it really isnít a good thing and actually highlights the problem we have, the whole club seems obsessed with possession and passing stats. Having a centre back that has played more passes than any other player in the league jus shows we spend too much time fucking around at the back. Port Vale was the tipping point for me, 1-0 down with 1 minute to half time and rather than push for an equaliser we wasted the entire minute passing it along the backline, I just donít understand it. Garner really needs to find a balance.

I do feel at home especially that our Ďstyleí is sucking the life out of the crowd and the atmosphere is suffering, the club should be bouncing but almost without fail we donít play in the first half and the atmosphere just dies off as people basically get bored.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 13:33:32
I'm sure the Club will have the detailed 'heat maps' to show where the majority of passing and ball-winning/losing takes place. I haven't located that level of detail yet but there are some interesting numbers on these two sites.

https://www.fotmob.com/leagues/109/stats/season/16393/teams/accurate_pass_team/league-2

https://fbref.com/en/comps/16/League-Two-Stats

We might create more good scoring chances if we crossed the ball more often!

Is it a coincidence that the top 4 teams to have Ďwon possession in the final thirdí have all played us....


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 13:36:59
Gotta say Iím getting fed up of the club on Twitter banging on about our players being top of the pass completion %ís or banging on about the number of passes Conroy has made. I may be in the minority but it really isnít a good thing and actually highlights the problem we have, the whole club seems obsessed with possession and passing stats. Having a centre back that has played more passes than any other player in the league jus shows we spend too much time fucking around at the back. Port Vale was the tipping point for me, 1-0 down with 1 minute to half time and rather than push for an equaliser we wasted the entire minute passing it along the backline, I just donít understand it. Garner really needs to find a balance.

I do feel at home especially that our Ďstyleí is sucking the life out of the crowd and the atmosphere is suffering, the club should be bouncing but almost without fail we donít play in the first half and the atmosphere just dies off as people basically get bored.

It is over kill.
The are nice feathers in the cap to have after points, wins, goals for & goals against.

Every man and his dog would rather Conroy has less passes and we had more points.


Title: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and mat
Post by: Batch on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 13:47:13
Quote
I just don't get the arguments either at times. Yesterday for example i am seeing we are toothless and not creating chances      
I made one such comment at half time. and I stand by that 100% .

the second half was better, though we'll have to disagree about the number of actual chances we created. guess it depends if you see see a 'nearly but crowded out' as a chance.

fans disagreeing about football is as it should be


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 13:58:12
Garnerball is the polar opposite of hoofball. Yet both are boring to watch. We donít get enough crosses in - maybe because the players know that, Simpson apart, thereís very little point in doing so. Again, I feel it is also because they donít want to relinquish precious possession.

Iíd like to know what Garnerís brief is.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: STFC no2 fan on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 13:59:16
Just thankful we have a club to support as thought we were Ďdoing a Buryí mid-Summer. The fact we were 7mins away from beating a decent L2 side is more than enough for me, just want to survive this season and build for next year. Bit harsh to be judging a manager in September who had no pre-season and cobbled together a side in three weeks.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 14:14:41
We created chances galore yesterday against a team that has not conceded more than 1 goal a game 
No we didn't. Not in the game I was watching.


Iíd like to know what Garnerís brief is.
Quite. I'd love to know as well.

Just thankful we have a club to support as thought we were Ďdoing a Buryí mid-Summer. The fact we were 7mins away from beating a decent L2 side is more than enough for me, just want to survive this season and build for next year. Bit harsh to be judging a manager in September who had no pre-season and cobbled together a side in three weeks.
This was exactly my point earlier. We move on, things change. The points you make don't deflect the criticism the team gets now. Survival? We're better than that...come on. No pre-season, cobbled together...that's all history now....we're 10 games in...those things can't continue to be a factor throughout the season. Questioning a manager who refuses to address our most glaring deficiency game after game is totally reasonable and by no means harsh.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 14:18:48
And another thing...players tweeting "We were unlucky not to win"...bollocks...think that particular one came from KKH...I'd say a draw was a reasonable result and Northampton might say they were unlucky not to win. If anyone looked more likely winners it was them and I really hope our players don't think that level of performance was good enough for 3 points. And I really hope that Garner isn't reinforcing the belief that it is.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 14:22:52
Gotta say Iím getting fed up of the club on Twitter banging on about our players being top of the pass completion %ís or banging on about the number of passes Conroy has made.
Agreed. In addition to that, I find the general self-congratulatory 'aren't we wonderful' Club tweets to be a bit much at times. I know....I know they're trying their best and you can't please all the people all the time and some people are never happy etc...but still, I think it's a fair point...


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and mat
Post by: Batch on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 14:32:46
Quote from: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey
. We donít get enough crosses in - maybe because the players know that, Simpson apart, thereís very little point in doing so. .

to be fair, for a big man Simpson is bloody hopeless in the air.

his strength is strength. he's bloody good at that


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Posh Red on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 14:35:09
Looking back to the game Iíd say we should be happy with a point.

Other than Gilbertís shot that was pushed out to Simpson, who then hit the bar, we didnít have another shot at goal in the first half. Not a shot on target but any kind of effort at goal. This despite dominating possession.

Watching the lack of movement from our midfield in the first half was a worry, and shows clearly why we pass the ball across the back four or five a lot & not forward into midfield.

After the break we appeared to change our approach a bit and tried to attack them down the wings and got a bit more joy.

We always look susceptible at set pieces, especially without Grant, as our midfield is quite lightweight (and short).

We could (and probably should) have scored more goals, but to be fair so should they.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: STFC no2 fan on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 16:05:32
Brighton fans seem to have spent the last couple of years moaning about Potterball and it now seems to have clicked with the players, I'm defo gonna give Garner the benefit of the doubt and allow time for his system to bed in. Agreed, it has been boring at times so far and relying on Conroy to play like a combination of Tom Brady and Franz Beckenbauer might be a bit of a stretch. After a shocking first half we looked good in the second yesterday though and created plenty.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 16:30:06
Just watched the extended highlights. The impression it gave was:
- Northampton gave us a 1-1 battering
- Simpson hit the bar and had 2 saved as well as scoring once
- Gilbert had a shot from Simpson hitting the bar
- Lots of headed and flick on chances for Northampton that they should have done batter with.
- One decent save from Wollacott
- One timely saving tackle from Conroy
- One disallowed goal for Northampton


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Crozzer on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 16:58:22
Looking back to the game Iíd say we should be happy with a point.

Other than Gilbertís shot that was pushed out to Simpson, who then hit the bar, we didnít have another shot at goal in the first half. Not a shot on target but any kind of effort at goal. This despite dominating possession.

Watching the lack of movement from our midfield in the first half was a worry, and shows clearly why we pass the ball across the back four or five a lot & not forward into midfield.

After the break we appeared to change our approach a bit and tried to attack them down the wings and got a bit more joy.

We always look susceptible at set pieces, especially without Grant, as our midfield is quite lightweight (and short).

We could (and probably should) have scored more goals, but to be fair so should they.


Northampton put in a great performance, yet the Town could have won 3:0.  I think that the perspective is that if we can get a point from a good side way from home, while looking flawed, we don't have much to worry about.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 17:31:43
We are mint.
End of thread.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: REDBUCK on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 17:50:13
Looks like the storm clouds are gathering, I'll give it a failure to beat Rovers before the first 'Garner Out' calls and re-enforsed by defeat to FGR. He's already been described as a non manager without any tactical nouse.

Garner has his plan, same approach every game so far, he's not likely to tell us in any interview. It's going to be a long winter for the 1/2 dozen experts making all the noise on here.

Going to be an interesting few months, can't wait until the home crowds turn on him and the team.



Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 18:04:59
Itís nothing to do with being an expert. I find it boring to watch - end of. Thereís no excitement generated and, for me, that is paramount.

If we do well Iíll become a fickle fucker and put up with it. But itís not my choice.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and mat
Post by: Batch on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 18:06:45
Quote from: REDBUCK

Garner has his plan, same approach every game so far, he's not likely to tell us in any interview. It's going to be a long winter for the 1/2 dozen experts making all the noise on here.


You're quite right, a football forum matchday thread is no place to talk about football


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: REDBUCK on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 18:12:58
I didnt say it wasn't. You just might be repeating the same stuff in every match day thread for a while yet.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Pookemon on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 18:14:05
Looks like the storm clouds are gathering, I'll give it a failure to beat Rovers before the first 'Garner Out' calls and re-enforsed by defeat to FGR. He's already been described as a non manager without any tactical nouse.

Garner has his plan, same approach every game so far, he's not likely to tell us in any interview. It's going to be a long winter for the 1/2 dozen experts making all the noise on here.

Going to be an interesting few months, can't wait until the home crowds turn on him and the team.



I don't see that happening this season.   I think attendances will naturally drop if our home form is poor, but that would happen regardless of style.  He's a young manager who will be given time.

Almost every year we can be better than we are and that gets debated on here, it's great that we can actually talk about football again.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 18:17:44
I didnt say it wasn't. You just might be repeating the same stuff in every match day thread for a while yet.
So, as fans, youíre saying we should just suck it up and keep quiet if we disagree with aspects of how itís going on the pitch.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: REDBUCK on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 19:15:00
Nope. you can say what you like. I just don't think Garner is likely to be changing his playing style anytime soon so every match day thread is going to be identical to the last whenever the style of play comes up.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 19:22:55
Pretty much like the games, then!

I have no doubt Garner will stick to whatever it is heís doing now. The only question is whether he can take the fan base with him - and for how long.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 19:25:12
Nope. you can say what you like. I just don't think Garner is likely to be changing his playing style anytime soon so every match day thread is going to be identical to the last whenever the style of play comes up.


...and if that is the case the problems/issue will continue to be the same and the results too.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Quagmire on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 19:26:45
In my opinion, the majority of fans wonít care about the style of play if the results arenít too bad. We are currently 10th, with 2 defeats in 8 league games.
Garner, rightly,  has absolutely nothing to worry about yet.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and mat
Post by: Batch on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 19:33:46
blimey, discussing tippy tappy is far removed from questioning the managers future isn't it?


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 19:41:26
These comments, my comments, are purely personal ones. Itís how I see it and how I Ďconsumeí it. No doubt the majority are happy enough - and thatís fine.

If weíre still scrapping 1-0 wins and heading for automatic promotion, I still wonít be happy watching it.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 20:18:48
Where as Iíd happily take 46 turgid, horrible, ugly 1-0 wins all day long.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 20:43:08
The way we are playing is deeply flawed

I just don't get what is going on in Garner's mind in terms of what he sees as a an acceptable performance and how he sees us progressing...as Audrey said,what exactly is he trying to achieve and why can't he see what is so glaringly obvious to 95% of Town fans?

Where we're going wrong is so obvious to anyone who watched the game yesterday and indeed to anyone who has seen us play at any point this season...


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 20:58:05
Where as Iíd happily take 46 turgid, horrible, ugly 1-0 wins all day long.

Which is where I have suggested a couple times since the season started we may well get. 1-0 to the Swindon Town could catch on.

I was always bought up on the premiss that you build a team from the back. After all if you stop an opponent from scoring over 90 minutes you get at least a point. To a degree weíve been relatively successful. We have not been spanked though weíve not spanked anyone yet ourselves and we are in touch with the leaders, not bad, not bad at all. Again we clearly didnít have the cash flow to roll out the chequebook to buy who we could where we needed them. That will happen either in January or for next season depending on how BG, BC see the season concluding. A good cup run will be the icing and cherry on the cake to facilitate the acquisitions that are need to keep all of you happy. Possession football, lighting attacks, free raiding wingers, seamless play from a watertight and solid back line through a stylish midfield to feed the monsters who will spearhead the attack. There that should do it. Until then we have debts, fines and an untold amount of creditors to pay. Rome wasnít built in a day and our developing empire will not be concluded this season either.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JoeMezz on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 21:28:05
I do get people saying the style of play isn't exciting, because keeping possession amongst our back 4 or back 5 just isn't exciting. The issue with the personal in our squad is I don't see what else we can do? If we pumped it long it would come straight back, as Simpson isn't great in the air. We can't really get it out wide and whip it in, as again Simpson isn't great in the air nor does he have Doyle's movement in the box. The hope is that the possession style improves the players confidence on the ball and they develop as footballers under Garner. The ball does need to be passed substantially quicker though, generally speaking.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Crozzer on Sunday, September 19, 2021, 22:09:09
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KrNBPiay-I

From 3.07, Crichlow taken out.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: pantomime dame on Monday, September 20, 2021, 03:09:01
Itís nothing to do with being an expert. I find it boring to watch - end of. Thereís no excitement generated and, for me, that is paramount.

If we do well Iíll become a fickle fucker and put up with it. But itís not my choice.

Very much this. I stopped coming to the County Ground half way through Luke Warms fiasco and bugger me if I haven't spunked out for a season ticket and found myself watching the same old crap, however, start winning 1 0 every game and I'll put up and shut up.
some perspective. I watched most of the away games while Flitcroft was in charge (but no home games) and thought he was brilliant. I never saw Town win so many away games. Shit football though.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, September 20, 2021, 09:44:40
I enjoyed the trip to NTFC on Saturday. Nice pre-match pint in the Sixfields with China Red. (great to have a local Swindon fan in tow!) Got to the ground quite early and was surprised to see the side stand opened to Swindon fans, a couple of the stewards were going around the crowd offering those seats to families and the elderly to allow them more space. There wasn't the same strict seat allocation as at Stevenage, which was sensible.

As usual we popped the ball about nicely but as usual when we got to the final third we seemed to run out of ideas. My perception might be off but it did seem like we were trying to get into the final third quicker than at Stevenage, perhaps this was down to the busyness of Johnny Williams. Sadly Reed's radar appeared to be off more often than not and possession was often given away cheaply. We obviously got away with the disallowed goal and the header off the frame of the goal but for us Simpson has to be scoring his chance where he hits the bar!

Second half I thought we mixed things up a bit more, trying to turn Northampton quicker by utilising the running of Simpson and KKH. Our goal came when KKH got to the byline and Simpson was able to bury his chance. Obviously we switched off straight afterwards and Jojo saved us with a great save. I had said throughout the game that Northampton looked dangerous from set pieces and from crosses into the box and sadly their most potent threat from a corner, Horsfall headed home. Having someone on that post may have helped matters but for whatever reason we didn't. Overall a handy point away from home. I think I would give Conroy my Man of the Match. He made 3 excellent interceptions first half and is always generally a calm head.

I see there has been quite a lot of discussion regarding how we play and how Garner sets up the team and tactics etc and there has been some excellent points raised. Personally - and of course I have absolutely have no idea how long it takes to properly get a team to 'gel' - but I do still see what Garner is trying to do as a work in progress. 2 weeks or so before the season kicked off we had 6 or so pro players on the books. We've basically brought in a brand new squad, a brand new manager and not a huge amount of planning time to implement the way he wants us to play. The way I see it is that at the moment we are setup to play possession football without too many risks. Keep things tight at the back first and build from there. Obviously the problem we have is that it is frustrating to see 10/15 passes and then when we do get across the centre circle it tends to either break down or go back to Jojo or Conroy. I would hope that within the next 6 or so games we might see our tempo increase and we get the ball out to the wing backs, or utilise Simpson's runs quicker. Personally in the second half on Saturday I think we looked to get the ball quicker to KKH, Iandolo and Simpson, to try and get them in behind where of course we are far more dangerous. I think at home we need to be a bit braver, push the line higher up and build attacks faster. I think this will come once the players learn how everyone plays, for example at Stevenage Simpson's runs forward were generally ignored, on Saturday I think there was more confidence to try and use him more.

Finally a word for the Stewards who I personally thought did a great job on Saturday. After we scored they let the fans stand in front of the seats and on the stairways (I'm sure this probably is in a breach of elf and safety!) and generally seemed to handle things well. There was of course an element of single brain cell supporters, 2 fullish bottles of 'fizzy pop' with the tops on made there way from our fans onto the pitch. To our credit this behaviour was shouted down. I can potentially see some aggro this season between the more mature section of our crowd and the teenage Stone Island crew who in my eyes look like they are trying to 'show off' or something. One fan seemed to prefer to spend the match arguing with a steward rather than watch the game. He was eventually ejected, for what reason I have no idea but he did seem to be trying the patience of a steward who earlier had been helping fans in an very amiable way.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, September 20, 2021, 10:37:23
Some comments on the game from Cobblers fans, of course they labour the point about the disallowedgoal a lot but that video posted clearly shows an impediment to Critch's run back.

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The first 10 minutes were flat, but Swindon were allowed to just past around the back sort of aimlessly.

Well, I'm happy with that. Swindon looked a decent side, but we really took the game to them and attacked.

Good side Swindon. Happy with a point.

A thoroughly enjoyable game today with Swindon arguably playing the "better" football but its playing the more effective football. Either way, it was end to end stuff and always something going on. I'm still not clear why our goal was disallowed.

We certainly deserved the point and on balance I think that was just about a fair result.

Enjoyable game and fortunately we got something out of it. The disallowed goal was one of the more bizarre things I have ever seen in half a cntury of watching the Cobblers. On the face of it a shocking decision, but perhaps the cameras will show different. Thought the ref had done well up to that point - but he's lucky the game didn't descend into chaos that would have been his fault.

Entertaining game, good atmosphere and some decent performances

Quite an entertaining game which we certainly did not deserve to lose and looked the more likely winners although we were slow out of the blocks and took about 1/4 hour to get into the game.

Seems I might be in a minority tonight, but I thought we were much better than Swindon. OK they knocked the ball around well but it was nearly an hour into the match before they had a shot

In fact Iíll go as far and say that the Swindon defence was one of the weakest Iíve seen at Sixfields for some time! Shame we could capitalise!

Thought it was a really entertaining game. Both teams had spells where they were on top and had the other on the ropes. Draw definitely was the right result.

Swindonís goal was really good. They tore us to pieces and it was a great move.

Thought a 2 goal win would have been about right...Really enjoyed the game, albeit it was frustrating at times.

The referee robbed us of a goal by getting sucked in and then couldnít get a decision right after that .

Thoroughly enjoyable game. I guess a draw is a fair result but both sides could have nicked it.

On their Forum one of their fans suggested it was a soft foul at best and that they got lucky at that decision too!

A body check to prevent their player from chasing/closing down on McGowan?
We would have been unhappy for it to not have been given against us.
Sometimes they are missed, unfortunately this one wasn't.

At best it was a touch of pushy shovey that the Swindon defender milked when he saw the position heíd left himself in. The goal was disallowed due to extreme pressure placed on a weak official.

On top of Swindon's 3pts (suspended) deduction, following trouble at Stevenage, Sixfields Tavern and several bottles and objects thrown onto the pitch yesterday, maybe another deduction...given a financial penalty will serve little use!

thought it was strange that Swindon away strip is in the colours of their rivals !!

Technically Deepo might be right but as one Swindon fan described it as an opportunistic dive; the two players came together so he fell over! The guy who fell over was booed by the NorthEnd and West Stand for the rest of the game. If that had been the other way roundÖÖÖ. On the other hand will ask Jim and his bunch of pals was it a foul or not! Agree itís all irrelevant the goal was disallowed so thatís it.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, September 20, 2021, 10:42:50
Why on earth do they think we got a 3 point deduction because of trouble at Stevenage?

Thought everyone knew it was for non payment of 1 monthís wages.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, September 20, 2021, 10:43:23
Why on earth do they think we got a 3 point deduction because of trouble at Stevenage?

Thought everyone knew it was for non payment of 1 monthís wages.
Because lots of fans are a bit thick.

Also reading entire articles rather than assuming things based upon headlines seems to be beyond many.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, September 20, 2021, 11:07:57
Mostly pretty decent comments to be fair.

A couple of Northampton fans said to me after the game (words along the line of)...

"You've got a decent team there, best side we've played this season, ball retention is excellent, but you f*** it up in the final third!"

Certainly couldn't argue with the last point and I was quite surprised at how complimentary they were overall....


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: RobertT on Monday, September 20, 2021, 12:44:15
Looks like the storm clouds are gathering, I'll give it a failure to beat Rovers before the first 'Garner Out' calls and re-enforsed by defeat to FGR. He's already been described as a non manager without any tactical nouse.

Garner has his plan, same approach every game so far, he's not likely to tell us in any interview. It's going to be a long winter for the 1/2 dozen experts making all the noise on here.

Going to be an interesting few months, can't wait until the home crowds turn on him and the team.



Probably a nod to my comments.  To be clear, I did follow that up by hoping he'd make me look a tit.

I'm not suggesting he won't haver some periods of success, or that he will fail miserably this season with us.  I'm suggesting I just don't think he has that certain something that works for the top job.  He's missing something on the side where the result takes priority - that is not for him.  His passion clearly comes from developing players, so I think in the long run, either by choice or a sacking or two, he will end up back in that role, maybe quite high up the food chain.

For this season, I think we are doing about as well as anyone had hoped and I stick by my assessment that we can hang in around the play offs long enough to see what a January window can bring.  A couple of key additions and we could be a very good team for this division.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Monday, September 20, 2021, 13:53:46
Itís not all about Garner. Thereís a marriage of management on the playing side. Ben Chorley has a big part Iíd imagine in the players that come in. I donít believe Garner says I want that player, go get him. They both have to report to Aberdeen. They both have to a big game plan for the whole season and if a player is required theyíll surely have to justify it to him. I donít believe the budget at the start of this season had enough money in the pot to get the strikers/forwards we would have liked, we were and still are in financial shit street and will be for this season. There has to be an amalgam of success, which is income generating, Clems investment, cost savings, debt repayment, which is creditors both from the footballing side and suppliers, oh and a small matter of players wages. Which is why theyíre pushing tickets online and the club shop is limited in its opening hours. A combo of no stock and no need to staff it.

In essence I think everyoneís expectations are a bit much. That includes the playing style and players we seem to have. Seriously, itís coming. The play on the field is not relegation standard, equally itís not far off promotion standard, again 1-0 to the Swindon Town.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, September 20, 2021, 14:15:18
I disagree. Garner knows exactly how he wants his side to play and recruited accordingly. Iím pretty sure he couldnít have recruited much better than he has. As weíve seen from previous loanees, weíve had them raw, improved them and theyíve moved up the ladder. Not all, obviously, but a good few. In amongst that he has also recruited young, untried players on permanent contracts - hopefully to turn them into financial assets for the club.

My question is. Which is his priority? Progressing players or the club? Itís easy to say that one will, logically, follow the other.

One thing I do applaud - if it turns out to be the case - is that I can see Garner being given enough time to execute his project. Something he never got at Rovers. It could be a hard seasonís watch - seeing if the project looks like bearing fruit.

Setting his bar so low with a Ďjust staying upí target gives him that time. Iíll continue to moan and groan about the entertainment on view - or lack thereof - but I wonít be calling for his head. A middle for diddle finish but with improving entertainment will do me for this season.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, September 20, 2021, 15:02:22
A drubbing of Bristol Rovers will do me  :)


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Abrahammer on Monday, September 20, 2021, 16:42:47
Where as Iíd happily take 46 turgid, horrible, ugly 1-0 wins all day long.

Without getting into the result or entertainment discussionÖÖÖÖ.Iím with DV


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Posh Red on Monday, September 20, 2021, 16:58:59
To be fair I donít have an issue with us trying to keep the ball as much as possible, itís much more difficult & hard work chasing the ball around than it is to pass it.

For me we just need to do it with a bit more pace, and have more movement from the midfield players to give the defence more options.

I donít think we are that far away


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, September 20, 2021, 17:19:13
Just watched the extended highlights and to be fair, the move which led to our goal was pretty damned incisive. It wasn't really indicative of our performance overall though (although we did have our best spell of the game around that time) I just don't know why we don't do it more often.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Monday, September 20, 2021, 18:04:01
Just watched the extended highlights and to be fair, the move which led to our goal was pretty damned incisive. It wasn't really indicative of our performance overall though (although we did have our best spell of the game around that time) I just don't know why we don't do it more often.
The 2nd chance where Simpson was 1 on 1 was also very incisive and came fro passes through the middle. He really could of one that for us Saturday


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Monday, September 20, 2021, 18:33:02
So many also missing the point that we havenít got a pot to piss in and a massive debt was left by the parasite.
If our crowds hold up I am sure the purse strings will be eased in January enabling us to strengthen, albeit a little.

In a much better place than expected and that is from the club itself.



Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: STFC no2 fan on Monday, September 20, 2021, 19:07:04


Totally agree with the earlier comments on the stewards who were great and no idea why these angry young men want to spend half their time arguing with them  instead of watching the game. Getting stuck near some of them at Stevenage and now Northampton has been tedious and went in the side stand second half for a more chilled out atmosphere. It was good to see that the Stevenage bin chucker seemed chastened with his girlfriend in tow :-)


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: AMayesIng on Monday, September 20, 2021, 19:10:27
The 'Stevenage Bin Chucker' was a Two Ronnies character, iirc


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Posh Red on Monday, September 20, 2021, 19:47:22
The 'Stevenage Bin Chucker' was a Two Ronnies character, iirc

He was sat a few rows in front of us on Saturday


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Monday, September 20, 2021, 19:59:48
So many also missing the point that we havenít got a pot to piss in and a massive debt was left by the parasite.
If our crowds hold up I am sure the purse strings will be eased in January enabling us to strengthen, albeit a little.

In a much better place than expected and that is from the club itself.



This and a decent FA Cup run, not forgetting pizza cup.

Something else to ponder. We ARE a big club in this and L1, no doubt about that and in wider footballing circles thatís recognised along with our potential to be (as Clem has stated) a decent Championship club. Keep getting in the news for positive reasons and the desire to send players here on loan and players we can afford to buy will want to come here. More so than the reverse publicity. Success breeds success and in the footballing world at our level the only realistic success is a promotion or a pizza cup medal. We can get that this season.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Monday, September 20, 2021, 20:46:16

Totally agree with the earlier comments on the stewards who were great and no idea why these angry young men want to spend half their time arguing with them  instead of watching the game. Getting stuck near some of them at Stevenage and now Northampton has been tedious and went in the side stand second half for a more chilled out atmosphere. It was good to see that the Stevenage bin chucker seemed chastened with his girlfriend in tow :-)

Upset that ďCharlieĒ is getting more expensive.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: AMayesIng on Monday, September 20, 2021, 20:47:58
We are a big club for Lg 2, not sure we are a 'Big Club' for Lg 1. Historically we are an average Lg 1 club (or slightly higher). We CAN be a big League 1  / steady Champ club (look at Reading for what we should be aiming for). But agree with the sentiment LL; lets think positive :-)


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: REDBUCK on Monday, September 20, 2021, 20:52:37
Just watched the extended highlights and to be fair, the move which led to our goal was pretty damned incisive. It wasn't really indicative of our performance overall though (although we did have our best spell of the game around that time) I just don't know why we don't do it more often.

This happened against Port Vale, we came out 2nd half upped the tempo, scored one and could have scored another. Then it went away again almost as quickly as it arrived and PV took over again.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: JBZ on Monday, September 20, 2021, 21:22:03
Big club  :zzz:


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: leftside on Monday, September 20, 2021, 21:58:23
The football could be better but Iím loving the fact I can go to watch Town home and away, and meet up with old pals.

Frankly, and considering the bigger picture, I donít give a shit about the style, especially eight league games into a season that not long ago looked like it might never happen.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, September 21, 2021, 07:01:09
So many also missing the point that we havenít got a pot to piss in and a massive debt was left by the parasite.
If our crowds hold up I am sure the purse strings will be eased in January enabling us to strengthen, albeit a little.

In a much better place than expected and that is from the club itself.



Are you saying we canít afford goal bonuses so are trying not to score too many?


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, September 21, 2021, 08:01:24
Are you saying we canít afford goal bonuses so are trying not to score too many?

WTF. You can clearly read, so what prompts a question is that? Iíd be absolutely gobsmacked if anyone else thought what youíre implying. As Victor Meldrew would say ďI donít believe itĒ.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: mexico red on Tuesday, September 21, 2021, 08:07:56
Haha hook line and sinker


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, September 21, 2021, 08:10:36
Haha hook line and sinker


You think?


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, September 21, 2021, 08:27:18
Are you saying we canít afford goal bonuses so are trying not to score too many?

Break even crowds to satisfy current debt 8,000.
We are doing ok.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, September 21, 2021, 08:38:52
WTF. You can clearly read, so what prompts a question is that? Iíd be absolutely gobsmacked if anyone else thought what youíre implying. As Victor Meldrew would say ďI donít believe itĒ.

The main topic of conversation has been our style of play and lack of attacking edge.
Then DoB comes in talking about how we havenít got a pot to piss in.


Now explain how lack of money means we cant move the ball forward and attack more often?
Then youíll do the maths just like I did.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, September 21, 2021, 09:06:55
I had a quick look at the league 2 table this morning and Tranmere Rovers who sit one place and one point behind us have a paltry 4 league goals in 8 this season. Obviously the leading goalscorers, FGR and LO lead the way with 18 and 16 goals scored.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, September 21, 2021, 09:06:59
I think the recruitment says we do, indeed, have a pot to piss in. This isnít a squad assembled full of journeymen, lower league hoofers. Thereís some genuine talent in there. Itís a bit unfair burdening a 19 year old in his first full season as our spearhead but heís doing fine. Garner just needs to trust the players a bit more and not be so regimented and anal about possession being the be all and end all.

Weíve looked so much better when we are genuinely having a go. Just donít understand why it takes until the 2nd half before we do.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, September 21, 2021, 10:04:56
The main topic of conversation has been our style of play and lack of attacking edge.
Then DoB comes in talking about how we havenít got a pot to piss in.


Now explain how lack of money means we cant move the ball forward and attack more often?
Then youíll do the maths just like I did.


So how does what you have just posted correlate to not being able to pay win bonuses that you Ďsuggestedí DIB was saying in his post? He clearly said, implied or suggested no such thing.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Tuesday, September 21, 2021, 10:12:17
This is so painful


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, September 21, 2021, 10:13:03
This is so painful

Agreed. That said, isn't it better to have these kind of conversations than the ones we have been having over the last 6 months or so?


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Tuesday, September 21, 2021, 10:13:35
So how does what you have just posted correlate to not being able to pay win bonuses that you Ďsuggestedí DIB was saying in his post? He clearly said, implied or suggested no such thing.
I think you are taking his point too literally. All DV was saying (I think) was that if it is true that we don't have a pot to piss in (which in itself is debatable)...that has nothing to do with our failure on the field in the final third of the pitch. The point about not wanting to pay win/goal bonuses was an ironic, not literal one.

This is so painful
Yes it is.



Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Tuesday, September 21, 2021, 10:15:21
Agreed. That said, isn't it better to have these kind of conversations than the ones we have been having over the last 6 months or so?
Soooo much better


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Tuesday, September 21, 2021, 10:15:53
I think the recruitment says we do, indeed, have a pot to piss in. This isnít a squad assembled full of journeymen, lower league hoofers. Thereís some genuine talent in there. Itís a bit unfair burdening a 19 year old in his first full season as our spearhead but heís doing fine. Garner just needs to trust the players a bit more and not be so regimented and anal about possession being the be all and end all.

Weíve looked so much better when we are genuinely having a go. Just donít understand why it takes until the 2nd half before we do.
Agreed...and if we were just a team of hoofers and journeymen, I'd be very much in the "Ooooh...I'm just glad to have a team to support / I'll be happy to stay up" camp. But we're not so I struggle to understand that viewpoint. Garner is holding this team back and I don't understand why or what he is afraid of.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and mat
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, September 21, 2021, 10:16:08
Quote from: TheDukeOfBanbury
Break even crowds to satisfy current debt 8,000.
We are doing ok.

that's a bit scary for division 4!

so far so good, admittedly.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, September 21, 2021, 10:39:57
I think you are taking his point too literally. All DV was saying (I think) was that if it is true that we don't have a pot to piss in (which in itself is debatable)...that has nothing to do with our failure on the field in the final third of the pitch. The point about not wanting to pay win/goal bonuses was an ironic, not literal one.


We have a winner...


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Tuesday, September 21, 2021, 11:04:55
We have a winner...

 :clap: what prize have you lined up?


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, September 21, 2021, 11:34:28
I just think people need to chill out a bit and stop jumping on everything that everyone says.  Discussions about football, formations and performances are great, exactly what we are all here for, much better than talking about court cases, points deductions and administration..  sometimes these discussions recently seem to turn into the politics thread..

It's not all doom and gloom and it's not all rosey - it's just..  football.

I for one am enjoying watching the team again and not getting frustrated with a poor performance or carried away with a good one - it's league 2, you are going to get both all season - enjoy it you miserable fuckers..


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, September 21, 2021, 11:53:05
that's a bit scary for division 4!

so far so good, admittedly.

Absolutely but underlines the scale of the shit show exposed and uncovered.
This could have been a lot worse, we all know that but we all want success donít we. Still have a big challenge with the pending Court case and funding could get scrutinised further.
Can only hope we get hit with a suspended sentence and the wrong-doings are directed at the former owner.
Just glad we have a decent legal representative and people known in the right places.

Right now and only an opinion with no facts I would say the delay in the hearing is a positive with only the unknown still hanging over the club. Itís going to happen thus just have to see what unfolds.

Loving the fact though that itís all about football and no daily discussions on the murky World of STFC and the fall outs of individuals and consequences.

Another game to look forward to this Weekend.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and mat
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, September 21, 2021, 12:21:36
I think it's a case of expectations rising based on actual recruitment v expected recruitment. So close to being a force first time!

We (I) have deviated from "stabilise this season, then build".

one point Duke, when you say 'funding scrutinised' are you talking about how we are funded now, how we were funded under power, or our current wage structure/limit?!


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: THE FLASH on Tuesday, September 21, 2021, 12:46:03
I just think people need to chill out a bit and stop jumping on everything that everyone says.  Discussions about football, formations and performances are great, exactly what we are all here for, much better than talking about court cases, points deductions and administration..  sometimes these discussions recently seem to turn into the politics thread..

It's not all doom and gloom and it's not all rosey - it's just..  football.

I for one am enjoying watching the team again and not getting frustrated with a poor performance or carried away with a good one - it's league 2, you are going to get both all season - enjoy it you miserable fuckers..

Correct!!

Doing alot better than i expected....pleased we have a league Club.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, September 21, 2021, 17:11:19
I think it's a case of expectations rising based on actual recruitment v expected recruitment. So close to being a force first time!

We (I) have deviated from "stabilise this season, then build".

one point Duke, when you say 'funding scrutinised' are you talking about how we are funded now, how we were funded under power, or our current wage structure/limit?!

All of those.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, September 21, 2021, 17:12:08
Yes I am.

Which one?


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, September 21, 2021, 17:14:36
Correct!!

Doing alot better than i expected....pleased we have a league Club.

This - Better than anyone could have expected with 3 days and we were gone.
We have enough to challenge this season and expectations were a week before the season just to avoid relegation.

Absolutely loving watching Swindon home and away again.
Helps me get through this shite World.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Tuesday, September 21, 2021, 17:16:56
Which one?


You beat me.
Both previous funding and current funding will be scrutinised.
Our transfer dealings under Power will uncover some real skeletons and a few will be sweating for sure.



Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, September 21, 2021, 17:19:37
All of those.


Oh !


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: ThreeDrawsMentality on Tuesday, September 21, 2021, 17:28:23
You beat me.
Both previous funding and current funding will be scrutinised.
Our transfer dealings under Power will uncover some real skeletons and a few will be sweating for sure.


Is that a combination of who we are signing (players on Standings books etc) and how we were 'paying' for these signings?

Did hear one very dodgy story years ago regarding the purchase of John Goddard from a source completely unconnected to Swindon, where allegedly (!) to get ahead of the other teams trying to sign him, Power got an aide to gatecrash the meal the Woking chairman was at with half of the transfer fee upfront...all in cash in a Tesco carrier bag :doh: . It sounds almost laughable as it's just ludicrous, but was told the story by someone from work at the time who was completely unconnected to Swindon, but was at that meal. Has worried me for years because cash in a carrier bag just screams wrongdoings.


Title: Re: Northampton v Swindon pre match chat and matchday thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 21, 2021, 19:13:43
I just think people need to chill out a bit and stop jumping on everything that everyone says.  Discussions about football, formations and performances are great, exactly what we are all here for, much better than talking about court cases, points deductions and administration..  sometimes these discussions recently seem to turn into the politics thread..

It's not all doom and gloom and it's not all rosey - it's just..  football.

I for one am enjoying watching the team again and not getting frustrated with a poor performance or carried away with a good one - it's league 2, you are going to get both all season - enjoy it you miserable fuckers..
This 100%.