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Title: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Tuesday, March 27, 2012, 07:20:41
As someone who is not adverse to a little exercise (and actually quite enjoys it!), I thought I'd start a runners thread. I appreciate its not everyones cup of tea, but I'm aware that some of you have run in events such as marathons and half marathons.

I'm due to run the London marathon next month and although a little late to incorperate any training tips, does anyone have any experiences of the day they'd like to share or things to watch out for?

Also I was looking at getting a reasonable pair of sports headphones to listen to my music as I go round, any recommendations?


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Bewster on Tuesday, March 27, 2012, 08:03:26
As you said it’s a little late for training advice but make sure you taper off well before the big day and rest up - better to under train at this stage than over train.

Nutrition is the key - make sure you know what you can and have to drink/eat and have practice runs using these food/drinks to make sure you don’t take something thats likely to upset set you. I once had to change energy gels on the day of a race and ended up being sick in someone’s front garden.

Also have a sports massage a week before.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, March 27, 2012, 08:06:37
Can you get someone to wear an "Eric" mask and chase after you?


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: WR5 on Tuesday, March 27, 2012, 08:49:44
Biggest tip I have is keep to your planed pace, It is 2 easy to rush out and get caught up in the whole atmosphere, then go out to fast. I ran a sub 2 half then completely blew up and ended up running 4.50.

Other tips

Bin bag to keep you warm at the start
Like brewster said keep to the same energy gels you trained with

If you have trained with music stick with it but I would advise not wearing headphone and enjoy the support it really is special.
If you can write your name in big letter on your tee shirt/vest when you are struggling around at 20 plus miles it is great to hear people call you by name.
Don't overdose on immodium  :(

and Enjoy the day


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Bewster on Tuesday, March 27, 2012, 08:54:48
Names you could put on your shirt :

NAD - so people shout Go Nad
My Face - come on
My Tits

and so on  ;D


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: WR5 on Tuesday, March 27, 2012, 09:09:43
 :D


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Tuesday, March 27, 2012, 12:36:33
Good advice. Thanks

Does anyone have any recommendations for headphones?


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, March 27, 2012, 12:40:46
Good advice. Thanks

Does anyone have any recommendations for headphones?

The ones that wrap around your lugs would most suit


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Bewster on Tuesday, March 27, 2012, 12:53:27
The ones that wrap around your lugs would most suit

Agreed. I have tried loads of headphones and I think I must have Shrek like ears cos none really fit well unless I wear a hat.

Go for somethng that comes with variable size fittings that way you have a better chance of the staying in - these tend to JVC, Phillips and Sony - like http://www.johnlewis.com/231010919/Product.aspx



Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Gnasher on Tuesday, March 27, 2012, 13:00:03
I don't think this thread has got the legs, but it could run and run.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: faringdingdong on Tuesday, March 27, 2012, 14:09:45
Sennheiser do a great set of sports-specific wrap-around headphones for around 20 quid. I've bought a couple pairs over the years and i'd heartily recommend them. Used them for a good few hours of running at a time with no probs at all and decent sound quality. Check Amazon out for them.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Gethimout on Tuesday, March 27, 2012, 15:39:45
Same as WR5 really. Get to a pace you're happy with and stick to it. I brought a watch which told me my average mile time! It gives you an indication on what your finish time will be as well.

Good Luck!!!


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Essexred on Tuesday, March 27, 2012, 17:38:39
The Sennheiser PMX80 are excellent. Fit well and have very good sound quality. Pretty cheap too- about £20-25.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: SuggWillSugg MBE on Monday, April 2, 2012, 13:16:53
I ran 2 miles in just over 18 mins yesterday.


I have no idea whether this is good or not. but i'm pretty happy.

also didn't get stabbed on the streets of Swindon, so another plus...


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: tans on Monday, April 2, 2012, 13:38:30
Take some speed before you run the marathon. :D


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, April 2, 2012, 14:08:09
I ran 2 miles in just over 18 mins yesterday.


I have no idea whether this is good or not. but i'm pretty happy.

also didn't get stabbed on the streets of Swindon, so another plus...

I think you should have started a "jogging " thread :)


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Monday, April 2, 2012, 19:16:23
I completed the Reading half in 1.30.37, happy with that in prep for London. Quads hurting a bit today though. 2 more "big" runs then taper down before the big one on 22 April.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Bewster on Monday, April 2, 2012, 20:57:42
good going -thats a great time  :clap:


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Monday, April 2, 2012, 21:07:01
I completed the Reading half in 1.30.37, happy with that in prep for London. Quads hurting a bit today though. 2 more "big" runs then taper down before the big one on 22 April.
Any idea why the Reading half gets 3/4 times the amount of runners that our one does?


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Monday, April 2, 2012, 21:11:37
Any idea why the Reading half gets 3/4 times the amount of runners that our one does?

The only thing I can think of is that it's in the build up to London so many use it as preparation as its so close. It's also a nice course to run without many hills and in my eyes seems far better organised then the Swindon half marathon.


Title: Well done Jimmy Glass is an Alien
Post by: Samdy Gray on Sunday, April 22, 2012, 14:03:41
Well done Jimmy Glass is an Alien

Finished the marathon in 3:25:55.

Nice one.


Title: Re: Well done Jimmy Glass is an Alien
Post by: Batch on Sunday, April 22, 2012, 14:08:37
Nice one.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: wobby on Sunday, April 22, 2012, 14:33:57
 :clap:


Title: Re: Well done Jimmy Glass is an Alien
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Sunday, April 22, 2012, 20:33:54
Well done Jimmy Glass is an Alien

Finished the marathon in 3:25:55.

Nice one.

Cheers Sam. Knees went after 8 miles and the heat did me as the forecast this week predicted rain. Really pleased with the time though considering.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Ralphy on Wednesday, April 25, 2012, 10:33:43
I've been asked by a friend to do the Oxford half marathon in October.

Guess where the start/finish line is.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Samdy Gray on Wednesday, April 25, 2012, 10:35:19
Albuquerque, New Mexico?


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Ralphy on Wednesday, April 25, 2012, 10:40:38
Albuquerque, New Mexico?

Yes bang on.

I just don't think I could bring myself to starting a race at the Kassam Stadium.

I'd feel dirty.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Notts red on Wednesday, April 25, 2012, 10:43:02
Yes bang on.

I just don't think I could bring myself to starting a race at the Kassam Stadium.

I'd feel dirty.
Just imagine as you cross the finish line you can kiss the pitch turf  :no:


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: SuggWillSugg MBE on Wednesday, April 25, 2012, 10:43:14
As long as you run it wearing a Swindon Town shirt that should help...


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Samdy Gray on Wednesday, April 25, 2012, 10:43:15
Well, you said guess, so I did.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Ralphy on Wednesday, April 25, 2012, 10:48:57
Maybe I could wear a Swindon shirt underneath my running top then just as I cross the finish line..


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Wednesday, April 25, 2012, 11:40:47
I've been asked by a friend to do the Oxford half marathon in October.

Guess where the start/finish line is.

The Oxford one is the same date as Swindon half apparently.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Ralphy on Wednesday, April 25, 2012, 11:54:55
I did the Blenheim Palace half in September in 1 hour 40 mins.

Was happy with that because it was 27 c that day.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Wednesday, April 25, 2012, 12:23:14
I did the Blenheim Palace half in September in 1 hour 40 mins.

Was happy with that because it was 27 c that day.

Thats good considering the heat. What's the route like?


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, April 25, 2012, 12:57:52
Maybe I could will wear a Swindon shirt underneath over my running top then just as I cross the finish line..

If Eric is about you could finish in a record time Ralphster.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Notts red on Wednesday, April 25, 2012, 13:19:21
The Oxford one is the same date as Swindon half apparently.
Perhaps Paolo will fancy running both this year and still call it a fun run  :)


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Ralphy on Wednesday, April 25, 2012, 19:47:41
Thats good considering the heat. What's the route like?

Surprisingly hilly ! You go round the grounds of Blenheim and into the village of Coombe.

They had people with hosepipes spraying you it was that hot. I lost 8 pounds in weight.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Saturday, June 2, 2012, 15:52:13
Anyone run the Bristol half?

I'm looking on their website but the route does not enlarge when you click it so can't make out where it goes. Whats it like to run?


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Saturday, November 9, 2013, 22:48:38
*bump* or something like that.

Im not sure if there is another running thread but I found this one so thought Id ask a little advice.  As an occasional runner for, oh at least 2 months, I know fuck all about the gear and that sort of thing.  Now as I have a couple of weeks with bugger all work thanks to an old rocker postponing his tour, I want to get back out there.  Which bring me to my question - Just what should I wear?

At the moment I go out in a t shirt and what my wife calls 'obscene' running shorts.  Are track suits and that sort of thing a better idea.  I feel like im going to freeze my cock off if I go out in the usual stuff.



Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Saturday, November 9, 2013, 23:00:03
In this weather, I wear shorts, t-shirt and a good quality florescent jacket (normally windbreaker material).

In the summer I ditch the jacket.

I also tend to have an under armour long sleeved t-shirt for running in the day, again in the winter.

Providing you're pushing yourself (even everso slightly) you'll work up a sweat and wont 'freeze your cock off'

Might be an idea to put some vaseline on the old nips though....especially in this weather!!


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Ardiles on Saturday, November 9, 2013, 23:05:20
I started running again about 6 or 7 weeks ago after a break of 7 years.  I  don't blame my kids for much, but they are entirely responsible here.  I heard at the end of September that I have a place in next year's marathon, and have been going out a few times a week since then...each time wearing 7 year old running kit and 7 year old shoes.

I do know that, sooner or later, I will need to spend some money and update but, being the tight arse I am, I'm holding off until I absolutely have to.  I will await the responses to your question with interest.  Personally, I think the most important piece of kit is a good pair of running shoes; everything else, in my view, is secondary.  I went out for an 8 miler this morning in oldish kit, and the worst I'm suffering is an annoying case of runners' nipple (x2), so I'll live.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Saturday, November 9, 2013, 23:12:52
I started running again about 6 or 7 weeks ago after a break of 7 years.  I  don't blame my kids for much, but they are entirely responsible here.  I heard at the end of September that I have a place in next year's marathon, and have been going out a few times a week since then...each time wearing 7 year old running kit and 7 year old shoes.

I do know that, sooner or later, I will need to spend some money and update but, being the tight arse I am, I'm holding off until I absolutely have to.  I will await the responses to your question with interest.  Personally, I think the most important piece of kit is a good pair of running shoes; everything else, in my view, is secondary.  I went out for an 8 miler this morning in oldish kit, and the worst I'm suffering is an annoying case of runners' nipple (x2), so I'll live.

At least it wasn't x3...

I find the BEST running shoes to be made by Saucony or Asics..


Title: Re: Re: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Only Me on Sunday, November 10, 2013, 03:30:07
each time wearing 7 year old running kit and 7 year old shoes.
Surely you have out grown the 7 year old kit and shoes? :o


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Sunday, November 10, 2013, 07:15:59
Good to see so many of you take up running. I'm not an expert but I generally tend to wear shorts and a long sleeve running shirt. Sports direct do some decent stuff without breaking the bank.

I whole heartily agree that the best thing you can get is a decent pair of running shoes, it will be a good investment.

Good luck in the marathon next year Ardiles, you'll 'enjoy' it for the hard work you put in and will get a huge sense of achievement when you finish. Great weekend in London, even if it is the hardest thing I have ever done. If you need any tops give me a shout.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Ardiles on Sunday, November 10, 2013, 10:14:19
Good luck in the marathon next year Ardiles, you'll 'enjoy' it for the hard work you put in and will get a huge sense of achievement when you finish. Great weekend in London, even if it is the hardest thing I have ever done. If you need any tops give me a shout.

Thanks Jimmy.  I do have a couple of marathons under my belt, but they were both a long time ago.  (London 2007 and NYC 2002).  Feel like a beginner again, to tell the truth.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Ardiles on Sunday, February 2, 2014, 10:20:00
THought I'd better move this conversation to the right thread...

Cramping up after 11 miles of my 13 mile training run last night, and having to walk the last 2.  My legs basically refused to go any further.  Still...better safe than sorry.  Last thing I need is to pick up a training injury.  I'd taken the train to Winnersh and aimed to run back to Farnborough.  Same plan next weekend - only then I'm going to do it.

Based on my experience you did
 the right thing. Walking two miles with possibly injured legs is no fun though.

I'm fairly sure I haven't picked up an injury.  Fingers crossed anyway.  It just felt like I might have done had I carried on.  I had to miss an important part of my training/prep for both of the marathons I have done in the past, so very keen to avoid this time around.  If anything, I'm aiming to slightly under-prepare (in terms of miles under my belt) to achieve this.  I don't want to break any records...just get round in a respectable time.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Bewster on Sunday, February 2, 2014, 13:02:41
Have a look a hydration tablets/drinks such as Nuun, even some gels provide electrolytes, which make keep you from cramping.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Ardiles on Sunday, February 2, 2014, 14:35:39
Excellent advice.  Thank you!  I'm going to make a point of doing the exact same route next weekend so that I can beat it psychologically.  I need to get ½ marathon distance under my belt.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Sippo on Sunday, February 2, 2014, 18:40:16
I'd recommend the sis rego recovery shake as well. Helps your body recover quicker after exercise.

I bought it from wiggle.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Bewster on Sunday, February 2, 2014, 18:52:11
As Sippo said. Also think about hydrating & electrolytes the day/evening before a long run.


Title: Re:
Post by: horlock07 on Sunday, February 2, 2014, 19:47:08
If you buy Nuun tablets don't buy the Cola ones,  they are rank!


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Bewster on Sunday, February 2, 2014, 19:58:48
Tri Berry are ok when mixed with squash. Good for hangovers too


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: 4D on Sunday, February 2, 2014, 20:08:49
Snakebite is good for a bad hangover  ;)


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Ardiles on Sunday, February 2, 2014, 20:40:22
Loads of tips there.  Thanks fellas.  I only started running again quite recently after a longish break, so I'm not up with the latest products etc. and have not been doing anything by the book really.  I've just been putting my shoes on and going out.  Anything that can help avoid feeling like I did after 11 miles yesterday evening has to be a plus.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: RobertT on Sunday, February 2, 2014, 20:59:52
Ardiles, I have no idea as a non runner, but know a few.  Just keep adding a mile was their advice until 21 miles for a Marathon.  I believe their advice was to never run more than that until the day itself.  To be fair, they've won a few relay marathons recently and all did sub 4 hour marathons so probably know their stuff.  The right footwear appears to be key


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Bewster on Sunday, February 2, 2014, 21:49:44
Footwear is the key - this cannot be stressed enough.

Go to wiggle and research their nutrition section. Good products, good reviews, good advice.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Monday, February 3, 2014, 13:56:24
Excellent advice.  Thank you!  I'm going to make a point of doing the exact same route next weekend so that I can beat it psychologically.  I need to get ½ marathon distance under my belt.

Have you got any half's lined up?


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Bogus Dave on Monday, February 3, 2014, 18:36:43
Tried running home from work today, had to walk most of it. Absolute agony down the outside of my left foot any time I step down on it.

Do I not like :(


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Ardiles on Monday, February 3, 2014, 20:30:47
Have you got any half's lined up?

Yes - Fleet Half Marathon next month.  Which I'm quite looking forward to.  I hope to have run the distance several times by the time I get to that one.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Red Frog on Monday, February 3, 2014, 21:25:32
No-one doing the Paris half-marathon this year? Didn't someone (bogus Dave?) do it last time round?

I expect you'll want to sponsor me though: http://aideetactionausemideparis2014.alvarum.net/sadoldbastards (http://aideetactionausemideparis2014.alvarum.net/sadoldbastards)
It's in aid of education projects in the developing world.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Bogus Dave on Monday, February 3, 2014, 22:00:25
I did the full one. No half measures. It was lush though - Didn't you do the half last year as well?


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Red Frog on Monday, February 3, 2014, 22:40:02
I did the full one. No half measures. It was lush though - Didn't you do the half last year as well?

Yep, so if I finish this year I'll be right up there with you, bruv.  ;)


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, February 3, 2014, 23:12:03
Never been a fan of running,  but that's probably to do with my build. I was a good 800m runner when I was younger and also a good cross country runner. Walking,  particularly fell walking is what I enjoy,  as well as cycling,  but when I run I definitely pound the pavement  :). Prefer swimming,  weight lifting and boxing...... and pubbing.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: WR5 on Tuesday, February 4, 2014, 09:38:32
Training for London and have fucked up my ankle, so have been having physio( 40 fucking notes a throw) and resting managed a very slow 4 last night without any ill effects going try a slightly quicker 8 or 9 wednesday see how I feel.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, February 4, 2014, 10:48:41
Training for London and have fucked up my ankle, so have been having physio( 40 fucking notes a throw) and resting managed a very slow 4 last night without any ill effects going try a slightly quicker 8 or 9 wednesday see how I feel.
Stick to cycling!


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Bewster on Tuesday, February 4, 2014, 14:00:35
I am just about to enter this - http://www.nf10.co.uk/

Anybody done it before ?


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Sippo on Tuesday, February 4, 2014, 22:13:08
Anyone else use mapmyrun? Use it to track my workouts and find it very useful, so struggling to find good routes near work.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, February 4, 2014, 22:40:50
I use Strava, similar app, I like the fact that it gives you split times against yourself running the same route in the past.


Title: Re:
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, February 4, 2014, 23:21:10
I use a garmin watch. Don't like carrying a phone while running, especially in this weather. But I've used runkeeper before. Similar. Works well.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Sippo on Wednesday, February 5, 2014, 11:09:35
I don't carry my phone either, just use their map afterwards.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Bewster on Wednesday, February 5, 2014, 11:17:19
A garmin Forerunner is well worth the money


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: FatSmurf on Wednesday, February 5, 2014, 12:31:38
Anyone use nike+? Its on my phone but haven't tried it yet


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Wednesday, February 5, 2014, 12:50:43
Yeah I use nike +.  Its allright.  I dont really have a frame of reference as I don't use anything else.  Basically tells me how far I've been, how long its taken, how long each K is, that sort of thing.  And plays my playlist.  Allows me to post it boastfully on facebook and twatter.  Cant really say much else about it.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: WR5 on Wednesday, February 5, 2014, 13:37:01
A garmin Forerunner is well worth the money

I use a Forerunner for Running and Bike ( and geocaching  :-[ )


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Wednesday, February 5, 2014, 13:37:26
Yeah I use nike +.  Its allright.  I dont really have a frame of reference as I don't use anything else.  Basically tells me how far I've been, how long its taken, how long each K is, that sort of thing.  And plays my playlist.  Allows me to post it boastfully on facebook and twitter.  Cant really say much else about it.

I use this too, as DV and Samdy can probably testify!


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Samdy Gray on Wednesday, February 5, 2014, 14:25:17
Every time I log into Facebook - "Oh, look, Smithy's out for a run... again."

The other weekend I noted your run and thought "Brilliant, my pace is about the same!", then I realised it was just a warm down run after you'd already ran 14 miles in the morning. FML.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: FatSmurf on Wednesday, February 5, 2014, 14:35:06
I use this too, as DV and Samdy can probably testify!

Does it map the route you have ran or just tell you how far/fast etc?


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Wednesday, February 5, 2014, 16:03:53
Yeah it maps the route.  Produces a pretty little pattern for you to put on social media and impress everyone.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: london_red on Wednesday, February 5, 2014, 16:05:20
Yeah it maps the route.  Produces a pretty little pattern for you to put on social media and impress everyone.

Or a not so pretty pattern

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/10/woman-draws-penis-nike_n_4576966.html



Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Ardiles on Saturday, February 8, 2014, 17:48:03
Excellent advice.  Thank you!  I'm going to make a point of doing the exact same route next weekend so that I can beat it psychologically.  I need to get ½ marathon distance under my belt.

Winnersh, you are my bitch.  ;D


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Baggins on Saturday, February 8, 2014, 18:51:15
I now run.  Manchester 10k in May.  Currently able to do 7.5k without serious medical intervention.  Starting to like the fact my jeans are looser, but anyone who says they actually enjoy the running part is either a hero or a mentalist.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Bewster on Saturday, February 8, 2014, 18:54:13
Winnersh, you are my bitch.  ;D

No cramping ??

Started training today - early morning 3 miles - need to build up gradually.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Bewster on Saturday, February 8, 2014, 18:54:48
I now run.  Manchester 10k in May.  Currently able to do 7.5k without serious medical intervention.  Starting to like the fact my jeans are looser, but anyone who says they actually enjoy the running part is either a hero or a mentalist.

You will enjoy it, give it time.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, February 8, 2014, 19:00:53
I now run.  Manchester 10k in May.  Currently able to do 7.5k without serious medical intervention.  Starting to like the fact my jeans are looser, but anyone who says they actually enjoy the running part is either a hero or a mentalist.

I'm lucky enough to be able to run at wok at lunch time. Its a good de-stresser.

Its more enjoyable once you get a bit fitter (takes a month or two), better weather helps - but not too hot. Those 30C days in August nearly melted me.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Ardiles on Saturday, February 8, 2014, 19:04:53
No cramping ??

Started training today - early morning 3 miles - need to build up gradually.

Not cramping as such.  Just hurt a fair bit at the finish, and a bit of a twinge in my calf...but I'm sure that's fine.  Shuffling more than running for the last mile or so.  But very pleased, all in all.  I have a few more months to build up, so feels as if I'm on track.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Bewster on Saturday, February 8, 2014, 19:08:46
Not cramping as such.  Just hurt a fair bit at the finish, and a bit of a twinge in my calf...but I'm sure that's fine.  Shuffling more than running for the last mile or so.  But very pleased, all in all.  I have a few more months to build up, so feels as if I'm on track.

Did you change anything from last week?

Did you ever get fitted for proper shoes as mentioned last year ?


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Ardiles on Saturday, February 8, 2014, 19:51:34
Did you change anything from last week?

A little.  Spent the day drinking squash and Lucozade (and peeing) before I went out at 3pm, but that was about it.

Did you ever get fitted for proper shoes as mentioned last year ?

I went to Sweatshop in Woking and got a new pair in their sale.  Went through the running analysis with them which, interestingly enough, determined that my running style was pretty normal and didn't really require anything in the way of correction.  (Previously, back in 2006/07, I was identified as an over-pronator so my previous pairs of shoes were more built up on the inside.)  No complaints about the new pair, but I may switch to a more cushioned pair at some point soon anyway.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Sippo on Saturday, February 8, 2014, 20:04:13
On Friday I came across puddles which were knee deep. I continued through it, as I'm in training for tough mudder. It was tough, very tough. I only did 4 and a bit miles, and thought no way could I do tough mudder.

After I finished I looked back and I did enjoy it. I think as soon as you get through that pain barrier it becomes easier.

I also find that running near road encourages me not to stop as I worry what people may think!


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Ardiles on Saturday, February 8, 2014, 21:04:13
I also find that running near road encourages me not to stop as I worry what people may think!

I know what you mean.  Another thing I often end up doing is telling people where/how far I'm running later.  That way, I feel like I can't back out.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Monday, February 10, 2014, 19:13:38
Right, I know I could find this out by looking back but cant be arsed.  Where are you all recommending to get trainers?  I'm still using the old gym ones and need to get some properly fitted.

Thanks in advance for your advice.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Ardiles on Monday, February 10, 2014, 19:44:16
Any decent running shop.  Run & Become is my favourite (despite the wanky name).  Good shops will have a specialist there as standard now who will be able to analyse your gait with the help of some technology and then recommend some decent footwear.

Word of advice, though.  Ask for 'trainers', and you'll get a withering look from them as if you'd just wandered in and laid one out on the shop floor.  It's 'running shoe' these days!   ;D


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Monday, February 10, 2014, 19:46:48
Thanks Ardiles.  Ill be in asking for daps on wednesday.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Sippo on Monday, February 10, 2014, 21:33:07
I'm really struggling to find some decent running routes currently. It's better that the brighter mornings are coming in though.

This morning I found myself in the middle of a field in deepest darkest Oxfordshire with no-one about. It was a bit eerie.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Bewster on Monday, February 10, 2014, 22:04:27
Right, I know I could find this out by looking back but cant be arsed.  Where are you all recommending to get trainers?  I'm still using the old gym ones and need to get some properly fitted.

Thanks in advance for your advice.

Run Swindon in Old Town - ask for Liam.  Avoid the Big Adventure place


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Bogus Dave on Monday, February 10, 2014, 22:25:14
I went to Run Swindon in old town, did their analysis and paid a stupid amount for some trainers.

Went to the doctors last week with foot pain, the doctor ascribed it to having innapropriate running trainers.

Grrrrr.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Bewster on Monday, February 10, 2014, 22:41:22
That's unusual for Run. If you go back I'm sure Liam would sort you out.

I don't find that Drs have a good enough knowledge of the full mechanics of running. I was once told it was ok to start running again after a calf injury only to find after getting a 2nd opinion my calf was indeed still fucked and I had another month of physio



Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: manc_red on Monday, February 10, 2014, 22:47:11
I went to Run Swindon in old town, did their analysis and paid a stupid amount for some trainers.

Went to the doctors last week with foot pain, the doctor ascribed it to having innapropriate running trainers.

Grrrrr.
Best way I find is to spend a bit of time trying them on, do as much running as you can on the treadmill in the shop, and just pick the pair that are most comfortable (scientific, eh?). I've done 'gait analysis' a few times and and spent a lot of time researching but the best pairs I've had are always just the ones that feel the best on.

Also there's a school of thought that the more cushioning you have, the more likely you are to suffer injuries, because it encourages you to heel strike. I noticed from pictures at the end of races that I used to heel strike quite badly, with my foot landing at an angle heel first with a straight leg. I always suffered a lot of niggly injuries (IT band usually) so switched to a forefoot strike last year with flatter less cushioned shoes, and so far have been injury free. Depends from person to person though I suppose.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, February 11, 2014, 01:18:42
I went to Run Swindon in old town, did their analysis and paid a stupid amount for some trainers.

Went to the doctors last week with foot pain, the doctor ascribed it to having innapropriate running trainers.

Grrrrr.

You should take a leaf out of Abebe Bikila's book; he won the 1960 and 1964 Olympic marathons, running barefoot....if it happened now the Ethiopean capital would soon get rebranded Adidas Ababa


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Tuesday, February 11, 2014, 07:13:55
Do any of you want to run with me? I get bored going on my own. I'm easy going distance and pace wise.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Thursday, February 13, 2014, 14:44:24
I did the running shop thing yesterday.  Went to the place in the corridor in bath, gait analysis, tried about 10 pairs and ran up and down outside in the corridor.  Apparently I'm relatively normal in terms of running, slightly turning in, no need for extra support.  Ended up with a pair of Brooks Ghosts or something like that.  They feel nice, very light and well supported.

Went out for the first time today did my fastest kilometre (4.50), fastest mile (8.07), fastest 5k (27.13) and fastest 10k (55.51)  Could have done it faster but around the 7k mark something twinged in my calf.  Just muscular I think.  Not the quickest times, but Im 42 and have only really been running 10 times properly timing myself. And then as I bent over to take my shoes of in my porch a passing pensioner in a 57 shades of beige anorak remarked 'oh, tempting'.  Dirty old mare.  I am irresistable to the pensioners of Chippenhham.

So two things of note for me, the proper shoe thing works, and avoid pensioners. 


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, February 13, 2014, 14:49:41
If you are running 8 min miles that is very good.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Thursday, February 13, 2014, 14:53:16
That was only for one mile.  Average mile pace was 9 minutes.  Which I was still pretty pleased with.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Bewster on Thursday, February 13, 2014, 15:32:04
Well done, on both the run and getting properly fitted. If you find you ache a bit differently than usual tomorrow then the shoes are working well  ;D


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, February 13, 2014, 15:37:42
Well done, on both the run and getting properly fitted. If you find you ache a bit differently than usual tomorrow then the shoes are working well  ;D

Or he took up that offer from the guy in the mac!


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Thursday, February 13, 2014, 15:42:19
Ha.  It was actually a women of the pensioner persuasion.  And I was to tired to take her in for a gumjob.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Ardiles on Sunday, February 16, 2014, 14:48:21
Upped my long run to 16 miles this weekend.  Just in.  Hurting like hell, but I'm fairly sure I've avoided damaging anything.  And very happy with it!  :)

Including a few short loo breaks it took me 3 hrs 5 mins...so just outside 5 hrs marathon time.  Two months to go, so I'll be hoping to get that down a little - if only because the thought of prolonging the torture for 5 hours scares the hell out of me.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Bewster on Sunday, February 16, 2014, 16:59:21
Excellent work Ardiles. I always find that getting out of the door is the hardest think so to do 16 miles on a cold morning is a great achievement.

I only did 4.5. 


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: WR5 on Sunday, February 16, 2014, 20:14:24
Was due to do an 18 miler today, 2 miles in slipped on black ice, and fucked my ankle  :doh: :badmood:
limped home.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Essexred on Tuesday, February 18, 2014, 21:31:56
Bought new running shoes today. Did the gait analysis and was surprised to see that, despite a huge heel strike, I actually run reasonably normally. Looking forward to getting out tomorrow for my first run of the week. Signed up for Jantastic this year which has inspired me to get out and run when the weather hasn't been the greatest. Already logged 21 runs this year, just beating the 2 runs at the same time last year!


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, February 18, 2014, 21:45:10
Do any of you own a treadmill?  Can of beer in one hand, TV remote in the other. No ice, cars, dogs, rain and mud to worry about.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, February 18, 2014, 21:46:20
Was due to do an 18 miler today, 2 miles in slipped on black ice, and fucked my ankle  :doh: :badmood:
limped home.

Ouch.  Hope it's nothing too serious.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Red Frog on Wednesday, February 19, 2014, 08:04:30
Many thanks to the TEFer who made an unexpected donation to my charity page by following the link in my sig below. Spurred on by this, if at least two more do the same by tomorrow lunchtime, I'll post a pic of me wearing my 80-81 season STFC shirt on a training run in front of Notre-Dame on my collection page, as proof that running aids weight loss!

Secure site, viewable in English, all proceeds fund education projects in the developing world.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, February 20, 2014, 19:04:07
Question for all you runners on here.....

Every time I go out on a long distance road run, or try to, I get a horrible pain on the outside of my lower legs, in the calf area. Its difficult to describe to be honest, I wouldn't say it was shin splints either.
It's usually after a mile or so that I can begin to feel it.
I have a new pair of Asics that supposedly suit my running style, so I am a bit lost as to what it could be.
I still play football regularly without the pain, it's literally only when I am out road runninG.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Bogus Dave on Thursday, February 20, 2014, 19:28:26
I used to get something similar to that. I started doing 5 or so minutes of stretches after running and it went away


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, February 20, 2014, 19:33:06
Always stretch before and after runs.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, February 20, 2014, 19:39:58
Question for all you runners on here.....

Every time I go out on a long distance road run, or try to, I get a horrible pain on the outside of my lower legs, in the calf area. Its difficult to describe to be honest, I wouldn't say it was shin splints either.
It's usually after a mile or so that I can begin to feel it.
I have a new pair of Asics that supposedly suit my running style, so I am a bit lost as to what it could be.
I still play football regularly without the pain, it's literally only when I am out road runninG.

Pain in the muscle? Or does it feel like it's more along the bone?


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, February 20, 2014, 19:50:22
Pain in the muscle? Or does it feel like it's more along the bone?
I would say bone, but as I said, it's hard to describe.
I try and run through it but it gets worse and worse.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, February 20, 2014, 20:33:05
If it feels like the bone, then that's shin splints. Had it myself.

Definitely get a gait analysis done if you haven't already - wearing the right shoes is crucial. Stretching does help a little, especially the calfs.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: WR5 on Thursday, February 20, 2014, 20:34:37
Ouch.  Hope it's nothing too serious.

Did a slowish 8 tonight and all was good.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, February 20, 2014, 20:55:28
I'm currently wearing Asics Gel Cumulus 15 which were recommended to me, they have made a slight difference, but nothing major.
Cheers for the replys thought chaps, I will have a bit of a stretch before I go out tomorrow and see if that helps.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: fatbasher on Thursday, February 20, 2014, 21:03:25
Had a small run down Shanklin Esplanade last night. Ships lights at anchor off shore one side and closed shops and cafes the other, well except the amusment arcades,they were open. Really refreshing, sea air, fine drizzle and the promise of a few pints and a lover supper in the Village inn in old Shanklin.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, February 20, 2014, 21:06:16
I'm currently wearing Asics Gel Cumulus 15 which were recommended to me, they have made a slight difference, but nothing major.
Cheers for the replys thought chaps, I will have a bit of a stretch before I go out tomorrow and see if that helps.

I'd also recommend the sis rego powder shake. Mix with half milk and water. Helps your body recover quicker from your run.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, February 20, 2014, 21:07:56
If you're not doing 90mins+ of cardio those recovery drinks are pointless. You'll be pissing money away, quite literally.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: WR5 on Thursday, February 20, 2014, 21:15:21
I'm currently wearing Asics Gel Cumulus 15 which were recommended to me, they have made a slight difference, but nothing major.
Cheers for the replys thought chaps, I will have a bit of a stretch before I go out tomorrow and see if that helps.

There is a school of thought that says don't stretch before a run as your muscles are cold, just go out for the first mile really slowly. However after run/cycle/whatever. Stretching is good also have half an hour with the injured area raised and icepacked, it works wonders ( RICE )
After long runs I also put some compression tights on for a hour or two  :gay:


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, February 20, 2014, 21:23:36
If you're not doing 90mins+ of cardio those recovery drinks are pointless. You'll be pissing money away, quite literally.

I'd disagree. I tend to go out running every other day for approx 40 to 50 mins at around 6 miles currently and it does help.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Red Frog on Thursday, February 20, 2014, 21:32:26
Does anyone have a recommendation for an energy gel or something to give me a boost over the last couple of miles of my half-marathon in 10 days' time?


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, February 20, 2014, 21:33:57
I'm sorry, but for that level of exercise there's nothing more needed than a glass or two of water and a decent meal.

You won't have depleted your natural glucose/glycogen reserves sufficiently to warrant the carb intake the powder provides. Your muscles won't have gone into glycogen depletion, therefore minimal muscle will have been damaged and you don't need the protein provided in the 'recovery' drink either.

Edit: in reply to Sippo, not Red Frog.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, February 20, 2014, 21:46:55
I used to just drink water, but it was recommended to me and it helps my body recover. I am looking at adding biking when I don't run on a day so that will help as well.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Bewster on Thursday, February 20, 2014, 23:22:43
I'd disagree. I tend to go out running every other day for approx 40 to 50 mins at around 6 miles currently and it does help.

I'd agree with Sippo that if you are exercising every day or every other day then you need something to replace lost electrolytes. If you are only doing one or two bits a week then normal eating would replace nutrients after a few days.

Red Frog - look at torque gels or SIS

WRS - compression socks/tights are hugely beneficial if exercising regularly. They helped me massively with tight calf muscles and helped me recover quicker.

I always have a small stretch before running, or do some gentle pilates exercises to ensure the running muscles are working. ok.

I also use kinesio tape on muscles that cause me grief.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Essexred on Friday, February 21, 2014, 17:06:26
I just bought a pair of Asics Nimbus 15 which were recommended to me after gait analysis. After my first run I had a sore achilles and slight soreness in my calf, which I tore in the summer. However, no problems today- I'm sure it's just about getting used to a new pair of runners. As others have said, stretching is essential after running, a lesson I have only learnt late in life. I try to walk before and after for 5 minutes or so to warm up and down as well.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Friday, February 28, 2014, 14:44:23
Anyone running the Reading Half this weekend and want to car share?


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, February 28, 2014, 15:20:58
You'll probably break the record doing it that way


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Wednesday, April 9, 2014, 11:10:11
Didn't either Bogus Dave or Red Frog do the Paris Marathon?

Whats the course like? Worth doing?

I'm looking for my next challenge!


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Wednesday, April 9, 2014, 11:16:06
Bogus Dave


Title: Re:
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, April 9, 2014, 11:17:18
I've entered the Swindon  half. Aim is to do it in under 2 hours. That's 9.09 miles average but it's a hilly course.

Currently can do 10 miles at 9.25 ish on relatively flat run. But I have until October to improve.

Got a new pair of runners. Made a big difference, didn't realise how knackered the old ones were. It's like running on pillows now and less Achilles/calf pain.
 
Intervals today. But at least they are better than hills.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Wednesday, April 9, 2014, 11:28:05
Good luck Batch. I assume you haven't done the course before?

If not, try joining Shin Splints on a Saturday morning, they do parts of the route so you can familiarise yourself with it.


Title: Re:
Post by: Bewster on Wednesday, April 9, 2014, 11:34:55
Got a new pair of runners. Made a big difference, didn't realise how knackered the old ones were. It's like running on pillows now and less Achilles/calf pain.

This is key - 18 months / 500 miles I reckon is the max.

Good luck - I might enter too


Title: Re:
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, April 9, 2014, 13:41:53
Not done any course before Jimmy. I'm having a midlife crisis :) unfortunately can't do shin splints, it clashes with other things.

Yes Brewster, although relatively little used my keyano 12s were probably quite old :)


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, April 9, 2014, 13:48:20
Who's Brewster?   :)

Which do prefer batch, cycling or running?


Title: Re:
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, April 9, 2014, 16:41:36
Running. Only do a bit of mountain biking. Roadies are too weird.

Brewster is like Bewster but autocorrect. It's not my fault he can't spell his own user name.


Title: Re:
Post by: Bewster on Wednesday, April 9, 2014, 17:09:15
Running. Only do a bit of mountain biking. Roadies are too weird.

Brewster is like Bewster but autocorrect. It's not my fault he can't spell his own user name.

 ;D


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Sippo on Wednesday, April 9, 2014, 18:24:22
Didn't either Bogus Dave or Red Frog do the Paris Marathon?

Whats the course like? Worth doing?

I'm looking for my next challenge!

My mate has just finished the Paris marathon and was planning to do the London one this weekend as well. But was pushed over at the start at Paris, then bardged and pushed over again at the water station. Twisted his knee, but luckily finished. Had to pull out of the London one.

Bastard French.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Bogus Dave on Wednesday, April 9, 2014, 22:21:01
Paris was fairly flat route, go past most of the main sites and have a little jaunt along the seine. The last two miles is on a never ending straight in a park though, with little crowds. There's not masses of crowds along the way, but there are bunches in certain areas, and those who do watch tend to be quite vocal - got a few "allez David" I enjoyed it, a lot. It's fucking Paris.

Be a bit wary of people handing drinks out on the side of the road. Saw one bloke grab a cup, take a drink, spit it out and turn to his mate saying "c'est champagne".


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Ardiles on Thursday, April 10, 2014, 16:45:22
Be a bit wary of people handing drinks out on the side of the road. Saw one bloke grab a cup, take a drink, spit it out and turn to his mate saying "c'est champagne".

Brilliant!  How French.

Three days from my second London Marathon, and I'm starting to get a cold.  Triffic.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, April 10, 2014, 17:44:16
Brilliant!  How French.

Three days from my second London Marathon, and I'm starting to get a cold.  Triffic.

Bless you....


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, April 10, 2014, 19:22:48
What's the secret to running?  I'm of hefty proportions (not lardy) and always find running takes it out on my lungs. Cycling,  I'm fine. Walking across the lake district for miles,  up mountains etc, I'm fine. When I was a kid I was a good middle distance runner,  or cross country. If the lungs struggle am I going too quick?


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Thursday, April 10, 2014, 19:37:03
Yup, too much to quickly I reckon.  I am lardy, but like you used to be middle distance/cross country runner many years ago.

When I started running again I could barely manage 2 miles. But I stuck at it until I could. Then upped it to 3, then when I could, 5. Then 6.5. It was MUCH easier getting from 3->10 miles than it was from 0-3. Losing 3 stone helped.

So I'm no expert, but slow, short and frequent is much better than fast and going every now and again.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: 4D on Thursday, April 10, 2014, 19:42:57
Thanks batch, I probably try and run like I did as a 14 year old. I must remember that beer, fags, age and weight will have made some difference  :)


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, April 10, 2014, 19:43:03
And try and get into a routine of the days you go out.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Thursday, April 10, 2014, 19:55:28
And try and get into a routine of the days you go out.

Agree with that, routine is the key. Its very easy to look out the window and think "fuck that" because there is a cloud in the sky!


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Bewster on Thursday, April 10, 2014, 21:27:11
Get a training plan and a goal and stick to it. For every 10 runs you as per your plan give yourself one off.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Bogus Dave on Thursday, April 10, 2014, 22:19:23
What's the secret to running?

There's no real secret. It's like walking, but a bit faster.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Bewster on Sunday, April 13, 2014, 15:18:24
How did Ardiles get on today ??


Title: Re:
Post by: sonicyouth on Sunday, April 13, 2014, 16:08:54
I think he finished 8th


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Ardiles on Sunday, April 13, 2014, 18:14:47
How did Ardiles get on today ??

Heroically! (http://results-2014.virginmoneylondonmarathon.com/2014/?content=detail&fpid=search&pid=search&idp=9999990F5ECC83000013CEC5&lang=EN_CAP&event=MAS)   ;D

Just crept in under 5½ hours, beating my 2007 time by 2 mins.  Tired, happy, and now a little drunk.

That's my lot now.  No more marathons for me.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Bewster on Sunday, April 13, 2014, 18:17:40
Heroically! (http://results-2014.virginmoneylondonmarathon.com/2014/?content=detail&fpid=search&pid=search&idp=9999990F5ECC83000013CEC5&lang=EN_CAP&event=MAS)   ;D

Just crept in under 5½ hours, beating my 2007 time by 2 mins.  Tired, happy, and now a little drunk.

That's my lot now.  No more marathons for me.

Well done - great achievement


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Baggins on Sunday, April 13, 2014, 18:26:16
Heroically! (http://results-2014.virginmoneylondonmarathon.com/2014/?content=detail&fpid=search&pid=search&idp=9999990F5ECC83000013CEC5&lang=EN_CAP&event=MAS)   ;D

Just crept in under 5½ hours, beating my 2007 time by 2 mins.  Tired, happy, and now a little drunk.

That's my lot now.  No more marathons for me.

I don't post much any more, but I read this and wanted to log in just to say congratulations.  I'm currently doing 10k runs - the idea of running 26 miles is mind boggling.  Its a terrific achievement - very well done sir.


Title: Re:
Post by: Batch on Sunday, April 13, 2014, 18:36:50
Congratulations ardiles. 13 miles is a long way, 26 is clinically insane! Want to do one though..


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Baggins on Sunday, April 13, 2014, 18:38:36
I'm thinking of a half marathon next year - a full one?  No.  No.  No.  Well, maybe...


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Sunday, April 13, 2014, 19:35:27
Heroically! (http://results-2014.virginmoneylondonmarathon.com/2014/?content=detail&fpid=search&pid=search&idp=9999990F5ECC83000013CEC5&lang=EN_CAP&event=MAS)   ;D

Just crept in under 5½ hours, beating my 2007 time by 2 mins.  Tired, happy, and now a little drunk.

That's my lot now.  No more marathons for me.

Maybe you should take up walking them, the Neolithic Marathon, Avebury to Stonehenge is coming up, I walked it in 8 hours a few years back. A longer time, but you can look around, listen to birds etc so generally more enjoyable.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Sunday, April 13, 2014, 20:07:14
Heroically! (http://results-2014.virginmoneylondonmarathon.com/2014/?content=detail&fpid=search&pid=search&idp=9999990F5ECC83000013CEC5&lang=EN_CAP&event=MAS)   ;D

Just crept in under 5½ hours, beating my 2007 time by 2 mins.  Tired, happy, and now a little drunk.

That's my lot now.  No more marathons for me.
Well done but you're completely bonkers.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Ardiles on Sunday, April 13, 2014, 20:08:15
Thank you, chaps.  Very kind.

Half marathon is a much more sensible distance, Baggins.  Still a decent distance.  Problem with the full marathon is that, unless you're very fit, the final third is really about brutal determination rather than athleticism.  My legs stopped doing what I wanted them to do around the 19 mile mark...and from then on it was a shuffle to the finish (although I did manage to up again it at the very end).  I'd recommend doing one - basically for the experience.  London was London at its very best today.  Brings out the best in everyone.  But I certainly wouldn't want to make a habit of it.

Your idea sounds great though, Reg.  I can see myself going for treks like that in future.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Sunday, April 13, 2014, 21:17:18
Well done Ardiles. Great achievement, and makes me jealous that I wasn't there this year. Hopefully next year!


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Tuesday, April 22, 2014, 20:13:29
A belated well done Ardiles.  I don't think Ill ever do a marathon.  But never say never.

Did my longest ever run this morning going from home in Chippenham to Calne along the old railroad track and back.  13.04 miles.  In a frankly unimpressive 2.11.  At least I know I can do a half marathon length and Im entered for the 'Nam one in September.  By which time I'm sure the blisters will be gone and hopefully Ill be able to keep a more consistent pace.  My miles ranged from 8.47 on the 3rd to 12.29 on the last.

Hope to do it in less than 2 hours.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Tuesday, April 22, 2014, 20:16:17
Well done. I need to get back into the swing of it, I should go out in the mornings but I need a kick up the arse to get out of bed and run.

Quite fancy running Chippenham later this year so may see you there!


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, April 22, 2014, 20:17:40
A belated congratulations from me as well Ardiles. (I don't really follow this thread).


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Bogus Dave on Tuesday, April 22, 2014, 20:46:03
The Chippenham half is a nice one, goes out into the countryside for a lot of it (I don't know the area).

People will tell you the last couple of miles are downhill. They are lying. Part of the last mile has a steepish decline, but there's a steepish incline not too long before it.

And well done ardiles, good stuff. I entered the ballot for next years this morning, though don't expect to get in. Going to berlin in the end of September though, which will be lush


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, April 22, 2014, 21:05:51
Nice one Ardiles.
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Chippenham half is 7th Sept. Swindon half is 12 Oct.. Wonder if I can do both....

http://www.chippenhamhalfmarathon.co.uk/big_picture.aspx?map=maps/CHM_Route_Big.jpg&title=Course%20Route

I do a bit of that Langley Burrell run on my Friday lunch long run. Its a small incline but a complete arse at the end of a run for reasons I've not fully understood.
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Did my longest ever run this morning going from home in Chippenham to Calne along the old railroad track and back.  13.04 miles.  In a frankly unimpressive 2.11.

Pah, did that in 58 minutes in Thursday. Yes, OK it was on a mountain bike.... 2.11 isn't bad at all IMHO. I usually go down the hill into the park bit, do a loop and cycle back. That hill is a bit of a git.. The other bit that gets me is the metal bridge over the river near Chippenham, back up towards the railway - not sure if you go that way-  but it doesn't matter how good I feel on the rest of the run, I am blowing out my ass when I finally cross the railway line on Cocklebury lane


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Norfolkred on Tuesday, April 22, 2014, 21:25:24
Well done Ardiles, must be a great atmosphere doing the London one. I am thinking of doing a 50K ultra in August at Salisbury (5-4-3-2-1 organised by the fire brigade). Has anyone else done it before? I would need to push on with my training to get to the right level of fitness.

Further to Reg's walking marathon suggestion, I walked the Peddars Way and North Norfolk coastal path last week. 100 miles in 6 days (13,16,20,19,18,17) taking my dog and camping each night. Superb feeling of isolation and amazing views, especially on the North Norfolk coast. I had to rearrange the timing slightly to make sure I was finished before the Coventry game  ;)


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Tuesday, April 22, 2014, 21:29:07
Nice one Ardiles.
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Chippenham half is 7th Sept. Swindon half is 12 Oct.. Wonder if I can do both....

http://www.chippenhamhalfmarathon.co.uk/big_picture.aspx?map=maps/CHM_Route_Big.jpg&title=Course%20Route

I do a bit of that Langley Burrell run on my Friday lunch long run. Its a small incline but a complete arse at the end of a run for reasons I've not fully understood.
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Pah, did that in 58 minutes in Thursday. Yes, OK it was on a mountain bike.... 2.11 isn't bad at all IMHO. I usually go down the hill into the park bit, do a loop and cycle back. That hill is a bit of a git.. The other bit that gets me is the metal bridge over the river near Chippenham, back up towards the railway - not sure if you go that way-  but it doesn't matter how good I feel on the rest of the run, I am blowing out my ass when I finally cross the railway line on Cocklebury lane

I couldn't work out which way was uphill.  I swear on the way to Calne its all uphill but I turned round and found it was all uphill again.  Maybe it was my mind.  

I went up to the start of Cocklebury lane, but then on the way back took a trip through the town to home in Lowden.  The metal bridge i just one of the markers on the run for me, but I was blowing out of my ass by that point.  The running style was no longer super smooth, more like I was 86.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, April 22, 2014, 21:45:57
I couldn't work out which way was uphill.  I swear on the way to Calne its all uphill but I turned round and found it was all uphill again.  Maybe it was my mind. 

Nope not just you, other than on the way back just over the bridge by Black Dog Pass (?) its all uphill. Its been mystifying physicians for years.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Thursday, May 1, 2014, 22:05:23
Bit of advice you experienced runners.  I find half way through a long run my sweat starts to get in my eyes and really sting.  I dont think buying a 1980's Bjorn Bjorg headband to soak it all up is really a good idea.  Is there some cunning way apart from not sweating?


Title: Re:
Post by: Batch on Thursday, May 1, 2014, 22:09:58
Have you tried not running ?! Not suffered from that... Yet.

Yesterday I did a stage of the Cotswold way relay. I now know my recent 'hill reps' were nothing of the sort. Had to walk in the end.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: janaage on Thursday, May 1, 2014, 22:16:07
Bit of advice you experienced runners.  I find half way through a long run my sweat starts to get in my eyes and really sting.  I dont think buying a 1980's Bjorn Bjorg headband to soak it all up is really a good idea.  Is there some cunning way apart from not sweating?

No joke used have same problem playing football in contact lenses. Then I looked to Scottish legend Jim Leighton. Thin layer of Vaseline across eyebrows and sweat runs away from the eyes and down yer cheeks. Problem solved.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Thursday, May 1, 2014, 22:23:48
Thankyou sir.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, May 21, 2014, 21:51:34
Been doing a few legs of the Cotswold way relay over the last few weeks. Some of the guys at work are doing it and wanted to 'recce' a few legs so I tagged along.

http://www.cotswoldwayrelay.co.uk/

Stage 5 tonight. Even though its net downhill I think I'm broken:

http://www.cotswoldwayrelay.co.uk/S5.htm


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, June 28, 2014, 19:25:10
Did the Cotswold way relay (sorry to bleat on Facebook friends :)). Did it in 1hr 35 min 44 secs. Was targeting 1hr 35 so not too disappointed.

http://www.cotswoldwayrelay.co.uk/S6.htm

Its only 8.6 miles,. But its 409m of climbing (and 367 descending). I can do 10 miles on the flat in 1hr 25 so that puts it in perspective.

Cam Log Down is a complete bastard even when you walk it!. Only finished 69/90 but there a lot of club runners so shouldn't feel too disappointed I suppose.

Legs felt pretty OK at the end, tired but not dead, cardio=completely screwed. Guess I'm just not fit enough for hills, which isn't surprising.


Title: Re:
Post by: Ardiles on Saturday, June 28, 2014, 19:31:27
Nice one, Batch.  I'll look out for that one.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, June 28, 2014, 19:32:37
Nice one, Batch.  I'll look out for that one.

Cheers! Lots of legs (10) and you enter as a team of 10. All staggered starts throughout the day (no baton!), each leg has an en-mass start.

Legs are graded easier, medium, hard. Some hard legs are complete bastards - did a leg 4 recce and that runs past Coopers 'cheese rolling' hill and up the back. 12.5m and I ran to empty at 11.5m. Had to walk the last mile. Even the downhill bits.

Leg 8 was similar. Had a cider at the pub at the end. Got home. Threw up .

Thankfully mine was a medium, it was never a case of not making it (within cutoff time), just a case of how quick I could go.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Saturday, June 28, 2014, 20:09:34
Good work Batch. I'm looking for local 10k - half marathon distance, can anyone recommend one?


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, June 28, 2014, 20:21:43
Good work Batch. I'm looking for local 10k - half marathon distance, can anyone recommend one?

Chip half is September, Swindon October. Guess you knew this and was looking for something more imminent?


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Saturday, June 28, 2014, 20:46:20
Ideally. I've really lost all momentum and enthusiasm recently so need to get back into it. I think a race lined up should do.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: herthab on Friday, July 11, 2014, 12:46:05
As I'm rapidly approaching my half century I've decided that being an excercisephobe is no longer a sensible option. I've been fag free for 5 months now and am exercising (Both strength and cardio) 6 days a week. Running, it seems, is one of the cheapest, yet effective forms of exercise around so I'm looking to start the C25K program next week.
I'm not looking to progress any further than about 10K eventually (Stick your marathons up your arse).

Have any of you enthusiasts got any top tips?


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Samdy Gray on Friday, July 11, 2014, 12:51:40
Get a decent pair of running shoes.

Start running.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: herthab on Friday, July 11, 2014, 13:02:09
Get a decent pair of running shoes.

Start running.

Thanks. Good advice....


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, July 11, 2014, 13:15:28
Change your local,  to a pub about 5km away.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Bewster on Friday, July 11, 2014, 13:15:45
Get a decent pair of running shoes.

Start running.

Get properly fitted for running shoes at a proper running shop - don't just go to JJB. It may cost more but it'll save you loads of physio bills.

Buy a good watch, good kit (shorts, running shirts and socks).

Set a goal - usually an event - there are loads of 10ks in and around the New Forest. In fact I have a place at the NF10 this sunday I can't use.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: pauld on Friday, July 11, 2014, 13:25:04
As I'm rapidly approaching my half century I've decided that being an excercisephobe is no longer a sensible option. I've been fag free for 5 months now and am exercising (Both strength and cardio) 6 days a week. Running, it seems, is one of the cheapest, yet effective forms of exercise around so I'm looking to start the C25K program next week.
I'm not looking to progress any further than about 10K eventually (Stick your marathons up your arse).

Have any of you enthusiasts got any top tips?
Not an enthusiast by any means - I'm probably about 7-8 weeks ahead of you :) But what I've found really helpful was following a programme that builds up gradually, not just in terms of the length of each run, but the intervals within each run. My previous attempts at starting running regularly were always undermined by charging out the house full of enthusiasm, going hell for leather for about 400 yards then collapsing in a humiliated soggy mess at the roadside before limping back home and giving up. Because I'd tried to run before I could walk, pretty much literally.

My recent attempts have worked because I've got three things right
1) followed an interval-based programme that started off with (e.g.) 5 mins walk- 5 mins light jog- 5 mins walk, then built up over the weeks to longer sessions and more sustained effort within sessions. So it started out easy almost to the point of being frustrating, but has built up almost without me noticing.
2) Little and often - I do 20-30 mins 4 days a week. Which I can fit in before getting the kids up for breakfast/school run/work without being too disruptive, but it also creates a regular habit/pattern which is crucial to sustaining it.
3) Make the last day of the pattern a gentle jog/recovery run

(I say I've got them right, actually the programme I followed did this).

Oh, and yeah like Samdy says get a decent pair of running shoes. Go to a proper running shop (i.e. not sports direct, DW Sports etc) and ask what type you need.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Friday, July 11, 2014, 18:30:26
I'm not sure of you current fitness, so apologies if this is an insult, but there are some couch to 5k apps you can get for your phone that pretty much follow the PaulD plan.

The difficulty is definitely maintaining motivation. Its really easy to look out the window at the rain and think 'fuck that'. And you do it a couple more times and all of a sudden you fall out the habit.

For me motivation/goal was initially weight loss (still is), but as I've got 'better' at running I've started to train for events. I know you said that 10k was the aim  - so with that in mind perhaps have a target of first being able to run 5k - when you get there a lot of places do a free 5k park run. You get timed, get a new PB, then post it in the running thread :)

For example:

http://www.parkrun.org.uk/swindon/
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Can't disagree with getting the right shoes though. I get a lot less achillies trouble now I have.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Bogus Dave on Friday, July 11, 2014, 19:25:55
Get some decent shoes, don't worry yourself too much about spending money on any of the other 'specialist' kit. Have a set goal/target/event in mind to train for, else motivation WILL wane. As batch says, park runs are fantastic for this kind of stuff.

Just enjoy it. Don't stress about going fast, just enjoy being out there with the wind running over your head.


Title: Re: Re: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: herthab on Friday, July 11, 2014, 19:39:56
just enjoy being out there with the wind running over your head.
Haha.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: RJack on Friday, July 11, 2014, 20:19:30
Thanks. Good advice....
A decent pair of running shoes is a must else you could end up injured in the wrong pair.

Run Swindon is a good place to go they'll check your gait to see what type of runner you are

Try your local Park run on Saturday mornings it's only 5k but it's good fun & it motivates you to go back every week to beat your time.

The step up from 5-10k is pretty easy. 10k - half marathon is achievable too but you don't need to worry about that


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: tans on Friday, July 11, 2014, 20:22:50
Haha.

Are you going to be skinny next time i see you? Im gonna call you Mo from now on


Title: Re: Re: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: herthab on Friday, July 11, 2014, 20:25:38
Are you going to be skinny next time i see you? Im gonna call you Mo from now on
Skinny in 5 weeks? I wouldn't have thought so! Lost most of the weight I gained after quitting smoking, but I don't think I'll ever be skinny. Too much muscle.....


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: tans on Friday, July 11, 2014, 21:00:07
Your like a white mr T


Title: Re:
Post by: herthab on Monday, July 14, 2014, 05:28:22
Well I completed day 1! Decided on trail running, as there's so many round here and it seemed less monotonous than road running. Nice big fuck off hill out the back of my place. When I can run there and back without stopping I'll know I've cracked it.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Bewster on Monday, July 14, 2014, 08:33:39
Well done - the hardest bit is getting out of the door !


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Honkytonk on Monday, July 14, 2014, 09:31:05
I don't run regularly, but when I do I try and do cross-country or trails. Makes life a bit more interesting, and there's nothing quite like leaping a stile without breaking pace to the surprise of a dogwalker.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, July 14, 2014, 12:19:05
Well done - the hardest bit is getting out of the door !

And the hills that go up too.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Tuesday, September 30, 2014, 20:48:01
Have any of you entered the ballot for the London marathon next year? Any letters confirming acceptance or rejection yet?


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: manc_red on Tuesday, September 30, 2014, 20:58:35
I'm in on GfA but the wife's in the ballot - nothing through yet. VLM site says early October.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Sippo on Wednesday, October 29, 2014, 17:42:31
Has anyone used inov-8 trainers?


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, October 29, 2014, 18:13:23
I don't run regularly, but when I do I try and do cross-country or trails. Makes life a bit more interesting, and there's nothing quite like leaping a stile without breaking pace to the surprise of a dogwalker.

Some years back, I was out walking on the Marlborough Downs, when this fella, jumped over a stile without breaking pace, to my surprise....it was David Hemery.

Kind of forgotten about a bit, but he won the gold in 400m hurdles at 68 Mexico Olympics.....he then you used  to do Superstars in the 70's with some success.

Hemery was born in Ciren....Oxbridge type, and I think at the time was teaching at Marlborough College.  He, of course, exchanged a cheery good afternoon with me as he sailed over the stile and disappeared.  Think he won BBC, SPotY as well.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Sippo on Monday, January 19, 2015, 21:03:31
Looks like I've got plantar fasciitis. Bloody pain, and all because I've started more road running.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Samdy Gray on Monday, January 19, 2015, 22:02:29
Man up.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, January 20, 2015, 09:03:33
Paris half-mara again in a couple of months. Can those wanting to sponsor me form an orderly queue?


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: turbotubbs on Tuesday, January 20, 2015, 10:15:00
Looks like I've got plantar fasciitis. Bloody pain, and all because I've started more road running.
Hit the trails - much more fun than the roads.
Had an odd one two years ago - running down a hill (road) when I got a massive sharp pain in my foot, as if I'd trod on a nail or similar. Carried on and the pain eased off. When I got home I looked and I'd burst a blood vessel...

For the PF I'd get some physio advice if possible - might cost you cash, but save massive amounts of frustration.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Sippo on Tuesday, January 20, 2015, 10:28:51
I trail run, but have been doing a lot more road running as it's too dark in the mornings currently.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, January 20, 2015, 10:41:11
40 days till the Bath Half apparently. Any other TEFers taking part? My training is going typically badly with excuses ranging from 'it's too dark' to 'it's too cold'.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: manc_red on Tuesday, January 20, 2015, 13:56:59
40 days till the Bath Half apparently. Any other TEFers taking part?

Did it last year. Was bloody freezing! Coldest race I've ever ran. I'm in Newport half this year which is the same day, and actually the training's going pretty well. I find it helps following a proper training plan, motivation wise.

Anyone else doing London this year?


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, January 20, 2015, 14:12:37
I'm injured, can you talk about the loss of page 3 instead.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, February 11, 2015, 19:21:23
Swindon Half Marathon canned:

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/11786681.Swindon_Half_Marathon_cancelled_as_British_Heart_Foundation_pulls_out/


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: manc_red on Wednesday, February 11, 2015, 19:27:51
Swindon Half Marathon canned:

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/11786681.Swindon_Half_Marathon_cancelled_as_British_Heart_Foundation_pulls_out/

Shame that. Not ran it for quite a few years but had pencilled it in for this year.

Seems a bit odd also if they raised £100k from it last year?


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, February 11, 2015, 19:30:27
Yeah, very odd.

I really dreaded last years, wondering if I'd get round in under 2 hours on a tough course. Loved it though, got 1:47:26 which was 4 1/2 minutes under the much flatter Chippenham time (weather conditions I reckon). Was hoping to sub 1:45 this year :(


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: manc_red on Wednesday, February 11, 2015, 19:41:24
Yeah certainly a tough course. Tough but enjoyable.

It seems to be profitable so I'd imagine someone else might take it over.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, February 11, 2015, 19:44:06
Fingers crossed.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Wednesday, February 11, 2015, 20:26:29
Yeah, very odd.

I really dreaded last years, wondering if I'd get round in under 2 hours on a tough course. Loved it though, got 1:47:26 which was 4 1/2 minutes under the much flatter Chippenham time (weather conditions I reckon). Was hoping to sub 1:45 this year :(

I will do chippenham again this year and I will do under 2 hours.   And not fall over.  At some point I will go for a run again. 


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Red Frog on Sunday, March 8, 2015, 06:36:58
Paris half-marathon this morning. These things always feel like exams I haven't prepared for properly. :(


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Ardiles on Sunday, March 8, 2015, 08:01:41
Bon courage!


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Sunday, March 8, 2015, 12:49:44
Bon chance rouge one, hope it went well. Couldn't find "red frog" in the results.

I've done my other calf. FFS. This one feels less bad than the other one. Hopefully a 2 weeker.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Red Frog on Sunday, March 8, 2015, 15:10:32
1'56. Happy with that. I'm not fast but that's a record for me.  Lovely warm day, 43k runners, dropping like flies, including one I saw on a defibrillator.  :(


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Sunday, March 8, 2015, 15:26:28
Well done.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Sunday, March 8, 2015, 15:29:52
1'56. Happy with that. I'm not fast but that's a record for me. 

Got to be happy with a PB on a warm day. Well done.



Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Sunday, March 8, 2015, 16:59:45
Well done Red Frog.

Does anyone run with Slinn Allstars? I'm interested in joining .


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Saturday, September 5, 2015, 18:41:31
Anyone running Chippenham half tomorrow?

I haven't trained at all, so hoping to get round without any problems.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Saturday, September 5, 2015, 19:21:58
Was going to but Im now working away in Gateshead tomorrow.

I felt guilty about it so ran 10 miles yesterday.  Cant walk today.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: manc_red on Saturday, September 5, 2015, 19:31:43
Doing Brizzle next weekend then Cardiff 4th October


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Sunday, December 27, 2015, 15:37:18
I'm sure a sister thread will be started regards new year resolutions, but I thought if resurrect this thread specifically for my resolution for 2016. I lost a bit of enthusiasm for this year, so I have/will be setting myself some goals in 2016. Who fancies some friendly encouragement/motivation?

2016 (miles/KM) in 2016?
An objective to run 5k for a beginner?

Who'd be up for sharing their resolutions and if they remain in target to achieve them?


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Sunday, December 27, 2015, 15:41:44
I've had a year of injury hell, something for you youngsters to look forward to later in life.

so no running resolutions, a few months injury free running seems like the impossible dream right now


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Sippo on Sunday, December 27, 2015, 16:02:46
I want to do achieve more 'road' running this year. It never has appealed to me but want to complete half and full marathons at some point.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Sunday, December 27, 2015, 16:32:04
I want to do achieve more 'road' running this year. It never has appealed to me but want to complete half and full marathons at some point.

On the flip side to your wanting to more road running, I quite like to look of some of the trail runs. I think there is a 10 miler in Marlborough in Jan time (although don't quote me on that). For someone starting out or looking to do a half, my personal favourites are Reading or Cheltenham as they are well supported, varied route and quite flat.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Loobug on Sunday, December 27, 2015, 17:31:15
Running is 'my thing' and I signed up to run 80k in chamonix in June, which I think will be amazing..I've done that distance on the flat, once but wanted to give myself a big challenge... so, no more fags,  no more hagan das in front of the tv with the missus for a while...


Title: Re:
Post by: sonicyouth on Sunday, December 27, 2015, 19:19:55
I'm doing tough mudder in 2016 and I want to finish it. That's my new year resolution


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Arriba on Sunday, December 27, 2015, 19:46:53
I ran for around 100 metres on a beach today. I raced my dog and lost. Go me....


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Sippo on Sunday, December 27, 2015, 20:00:00
On the flip side to your wanting to more road running, I quite like to look of some of the trail runs. I think there is a 10 miler in Marlborough in Jan time (although don't quote me on that). For someone starting out or looking to do a half, my personal favourites are Reading or Cheltenham as they are well supported, varied route and quite flat.

Hills or distance aren't an issue. My hips don't like hard ground. I need to get that sorted and some proper runners. I find road running boring.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Sunday, December 27, 2015, 20:18:34
I ran 4k with the kids this morning and 10k alone tonight.  Which was nice.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, December 27, 2015, 20:25:59
I need to get running or something, if my belly gets any bigger it'll develop its own climate. I think I need a mid-life crisis.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Nemo on Sunday, December 27, 2015, 21:02:23
I have signed up for the Bath Half, and as the winter is unreasonably mild this year, I should be able to actually train for it. I'd like to do sub 90 minutes on a half at some point, but don't think I've got enough time to get up to that pace for this one.

But either way, I need to get running. I usually do all my training outside, how do people find treadmills translate to road running? I could much more easily run at my gym.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Bewster on Sunday, December 27, 2015, 21:13:42
I need to get running or something, if my belly gets any bigger it'll develop its own climate. I think I need a mid-life crisis.

After doing a half marathon this year I've discovered that a re-occurrence of an old skiing accident injury means I have to have my ankle broken and reset.

6 weeks non weight bearing in a cast. Smashing. No driving, no cycling, no running.

Fucking Boooo


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, December 28, 2015, 09:08:36
treadmills are both tedious and I don't find mine these representative. it's actually a bit harder - unless you don't put a slope on it. using mine to slowly try and build up again - at least if the injury reoccurs it's a short walk home!

sub 90 would be a great time. my aim was sub 100 but injury and overeating had put paid to that for a year or so..
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Brewster - that's a bugger


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Red Frog on Sunday, March 6, 2016, 15:25:42
Did my 4th Paris half-marathon this morning in 1:51. The time might not impress some of you, but I've shaved 17 minutes off my time since I ran my first ever race four years ago, at 49. Here's to midlife crises.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Sunday, March 6, 2016, 15:27:37
that's a great time/improvement. congrats


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Sunday, March 6, 2016, 15:31:39
Well done froggy.  Ive set myself the target of doing a marathon next year.  Target time - the same day.

Its a good mid life crisis.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Sunday, March 6, 2016, 15:58:58
Well done froggy.  Ive set myself the target of doing a marathon next year.  Target time - the same day.

Its a good mid life crisis.

that's my taget too, well 4 hours would be good be just to finish first and foremost. Unfortunately I seem incapable of running over more than 2 months without breaking so it may be a pipe dream.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: The Grim Reaper on Sunday, March 6, 2016, 19:01:00
I'd be happy just to find the motivation to start up doing simple 5k runs again.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: pauld on Sunday, March 6, 2016, 19:38:26
that's my taget too, well 4 hours would be good be just to finish first and foremost. Unfortunately I seem incapable of running over more than 2 months without breaking so it may be a pipe dream.
Running for two months, no wonder you're knackered. Batch Gump


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Red Frog on Monday, April 11, 2016, 08:47:07
Did the Berlin half-mara a week ago. Can't recommend it highly enough to TEF runners. Beautiful flat route right past all the sights of the city, great organisation, loads of supporters, and beers at the finishing post. Got to be one of the best in Europe.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, April 11, 2016, 10:48:26
thanks for the tip


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Bogus Dave on Monday, April 11, 2016, 12:11:30
Did it finish by the Brandenburg gate

I did the marathon a couple of years ago on a gammy ankle a lot slower than I'd hoped, and coming down the last 400 meters saw the Brandenburg gate and assumed that was the finish line. Tried a last ditch sprint to save face. Turned out the actual finish line was about 200 meters after the Brandenburg gate, at which point I threw a strop and walked to the end


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Red Frog on Monday, April 11, 2016, 12:28:02
Did it finish by the Brandenburg gate

I did the marathon a couple of years ago on a gammy ankle a lot slower than I'd hoped, and coming down the last 400 meters saw the Brandenburg gate and assumed that was the finish line. Tried a last ditch sprint to save face. Turned out the actual finish line was about 200 meters after the Brandenburg gate, at which point I threw a strop and walked to the end

Ha ha. No, went through the Gate at about 4k. Start and finish was on the Karl-Marx-Allee east of Alexanderplatz, amid some inspiring Socialist murals. I had a similar experience running with the dregs of a heavy bout of flu, took the 21k marker for the end - it was supposedly only another 100m to the line, but it looked and felt a bloody sight longer.

Whenever I cross the line at a Semi, I always think in total admiration of those brave fools who do another whole lap. I can't conceive being capable of it.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: manc_red on Monday, April 11, 2016, 21:36:37
I'm doing the Berlin marathon in September, really looking forward to it.

London first though, any other TEF'ers doing it?


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Monday, April 11, 2016, 21:41:53
I'm doing the Berlin marathon in September, really looking forward to it.

London first though, any other TEF'ers doing it?

No, although done it in the past. I enjoyed it, and wouldn't mind doing it again. Soak up the experience, sights, sounds etc.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, April 12, 2016, 07:50:11
I'm doing the Berlin marathon in September, really looking forward to it.

London first though, any other TEF'ers doing it?

Nope, although one of my mates from Luxembourg is running it and I am allowing him to use my shower afterwards before going for a few pints so I am doing my bit!!


Title: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, April 12, 2016, 08:25:01
nope, another year another rejection. just as well, given my injury record last year I'd have deferred anyway.

in the unlikely event anyone has done this I'd be interested in feedback. probably not going to (be ready) do it until 2017 anyway

http://www.marathonviabelgica.nl


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Sippo on Tuesday, April 12, 2016, 08:35:51
I want to train for a half or even full marathon. But it's finding the time.

Do I get up at 5am, as I need to get the kids up at 6.30am for school. Or run when the kids are in bed. But we eat at 5pm...

Argh....


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Bewster on Tuesday, April 12, 2016, 09:39:09
I want to train for a half or even full marathon. But it's finding the time.

Do I get up at 5am, as I need to get the kids up at 6.30am for school. Or run when the kids are in bed. But we eat at 5pm...

Argh....

I recently read a book called "The Time-Starved Cyclist's Training Formula" which shows you how to balance work/life/family/training.  I found it really useful and it could easily be adapted to running.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, April 12, 2016, 09:49:25
I want to train for a half or even full marathon. But it's finding the time.

Do I get up at 5am, as I need to get the kids up at 6.30am for school. Or run when the kids are in bed. But we eat at 5pm...

Argh....

If you eat at 5pm, you can digest and be out running by 8pm. If you're prepared to give up on some telly. Easier now the evenings are longer. If finding time's a problem, target a half rather than full marathon. You can do useful sessions in an hour, whereas you need to dedicate much more time to building up endurance for the full monty.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, April 12, 2016, 10:09:48
I recently read a book called "The Time-Starved Cyclist's Training Formula" which shows you how to balance work/life/family/training.  I found it really useful and it could easily be adapted to running.

I saw that, is it any good as I perhaps need some sort of structure to get my fitness back and whilst I work from home I still struggle to find the time?


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Bewster on Tuesday, April 12, 2016, 11:21:26
I saw that, is it any good as I perhaps need some sort of structure to get my fitness back and whilst I work from home I still struggle to find the time?

To be honest is a lot of common sense but it gives structure and ideas along with reasons why you should train the way it recommends. For £1.99 on Kindle it is well worth it.

You'll need the other book in the series which is about turbo training to get full benefit. 


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, April 12, 2016, 12:19:46
disappointing of brizzle council:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-36014525


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, April 12, 2016, 14:18:41
disappointing of brizzle council:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-36014525

Talk about short-sighted. Cost of everything, value of nothing. Perhaps they'd prefer them clogging up Casualty with their cider-filled and pasty-lined arteries.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Monday, May 2, 2016, 07:29:12
London marathon ballot time for those who felt inspired by the race last week.

https://www.virginmoneylondonmarathon.com/en-gb/how-to-enter/ballot-entry/

I've entered myself and Mrs to double my chances. She doesn't want to run it, so Sod's law she'll get in  :D


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, May 2, 2016, 08:24:42
Just done mine too, but what are the odds now 1:10 or worse, won't hold my breath...


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Monday, May 2, 2016, 09:51:19
Yep.  Just done it as well.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Friday, May 6, 2016, 20:43:38
Hey runner people.  Any recommendations on watches for running?


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Sippo on Saturday, May 7, 2016, 06:56:07
What do you want it to do? If you want with gps they cost a lot more. I have the Fitbit surge but it's ace. It has all the bells and whistles. There are cheaper options.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, May 7, 2016, 07:44:57
what's your budget? what do you want - basic pace /distance? upload to web? something more?

personally I use an old garmin + hrm chest strap. was eyeing up a newer one with integrated optical hrm/Bluetooth to phone. but this is going to be £200+.


but I've just injured myself again. so...


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Saturday, May 7, 2016, 09:56:44
What do you want it to do? If you want with gps they cost a lot more. I have the Fitbit surge but it's ace. It has all the bells and whistles. There are cheaper options.

http://thehackernews.com/2015/10/hack-fitbit.html


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Red Frog on Saturday, May 7, 2016, 10:36:11
I'm very happy with just the free Nike+ Run app. Used to have an Adidas thing with the chest-strap palaver, but didn't like feeling constricted. What makes a pricy bit of kit that much better?


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, May 7, 2016, 11:14:00
I'm very happy with just the free Nike+ Run app. Used to have an Adidas thing with the chest-strap palaver, but didn't like feeling constricted. What makes a pricy bit of kit that much better?

GPS - its not any more accurate than a foot pod type device, but it tracks where you actually go.
I find it useful for:
  1. downloading/recording courses. Very useful telling you if you've gone "off track" in non-marshalled races
  2. Comparing your identical  runs in strava, and v others on the same segments
  3. HRM is useful when I'm training/coming back from another injury to make sure I don't push it too hard. You pay a lot more for an inbuilt optical HRM. Luckily a chest strap doesn't bother me too much.

Is all this worth it - well, depends on what you want. If its just straight distance/pace then absolutely not.

You can of course do all this on a phone. I can't stand strapping a phone to my arm!
 Though it does have the 'advantage' of live logging as you run I suppose!

This is what I have - its chunky and old, but its multisport and does what I need. They synching to PC was a PITA before I realised I could do it using my phone

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Garmin-Forerunner-310XT-Multisport-Monitor/dp/B0025VKUPM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1462619547&sr=8-1&keywords=forerunner+310xt+hrm


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Saturday, May 7, 2016, 11:17:57
Hmm.  I use nike+ as well.  Im not sure really.  Thinking about it I probably just need some better way of organising myself.  Not a fan of the armbands for my phone.  Wires hanging everywhere for headphones.  

I was just hoping someone had the perfect solution and I wouldn't have to actually bother looking in to it any more than on here!

Thanks for all your responses anyway.  It may just be some decent bluetooth head phones and better way of carrying things!



Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Samdy Gray on Saturday, May 7, 2016, 13:19:55
It may just be some decent bluetooth head phones and better way of carrying things!

I recently bought a set of Jaybird X2's and they've been worth every penny.

On the watch front, the Moto 360 Sport has GPS and a heart rate monitor. It's an Android watch so you can download music to the watch and use it with the bluetooth earphones too.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: pauld on Saturday, May 7, 2016, 15:21:09
I'm very happy with just the free Nike+ Run app. Used to have an Adidas thing with the chest-strap palaver, but didn't like feeling constricted.
miCoach Pacer? I use that, I like it, allegedly the HRM is more accurate with a chest strap than a watch, although I suspect the difference is miniscule for amateur use. Then I use the phone for GPS/music. I like the stats etc you get from the micoach web app, I need the stats to feed my inner geek and act as my incentive


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Saturday, May 7, 2016, 19:04:31
I recently bought a set of Jaybird X2's and they've been worth every penny.

On the watch front, the Moto 360 Sport has GPS and a heart rate monitor. It's an Android watch so you can download music to the watch and use it with the bluetooth earphones too.

Do those buds stay in ok when you are sweating Sam?  I find mine come out after about half an hour.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Samdy Gray on Saturday, May 7, 2016, 19:28:10
Yes. The fins help keep them in and the Comply tips are better than the standard silicone/rubber ones.

Jaybird have a lifetime sweat guarantee too - if they stop working because of sweat they'll replace them.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Saturday, May 7, 2016, 19:42:36
Thanks Sir.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Red Frog on Saturday, May 7, 2016, 19:58:43
miCoach Pacer? I use that, I like it, allegedly the HRM is more accurate with a chest strap than a watch, although I suspect the difference is miniscule for amateur use. Then I use the phone for GPS/music. I like the stats etc you get from the micoach web app, I need the stats to feed my inner geek and act as my incentive

Yeah that's the one. I couldn't be faffed having to upload to the computer before I could see my run stats. Nike+ gives me pace per km, lets me listen to music and provides run stats the moment I finish. Does it for me.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: pauld on Saturday, May 7, 2016, 20:46:15
Yeah that's the one. I couldn't be faffed having to upload to the computer before I could see my run stats. Nike+ gives me pace per km, lets me listen to music and provides run stats the moment I finish. Does it for me.
Understand that, it is a faff having to upload the stats. I tend to use Runtastic for instant gratification (!), but I like the miCoach training programmes and the way they do the intervals/progressions based on your heart rate. So I use both. That way I get two lots of graphs and stats :)


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: blinkpip on Saturday, September 3, 2016, 16:11:25
Anyone thinking about taking part of the Swindon Half in October please sign up.

http://www.swindonhalfmarathon.org.uk/The-Event/Half-Marathon.aspx

They need to raise/sponsors £27,000 by next week for it to go ahead.
http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/14718285.Swindon_Half_Marathon_at_risk_after_cash_fear/


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Saturday, September 3, 2016, 16:48:07
Anyone thinking about taking part of the Swindon Half in October please sign up.

http://www.swindonhalfmarathon.org.uk/The-Event/Half-Marathon.aspx

They need to raise/sponsors £27,000 by next week for it to go ahead.
http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/14718285.Swindon_Half_Marathon_at_risk_after_cash_fear/

With a funding gap that large they must have known some time in advance there was a fair chance it would not go ahead. It's a shame that it may fall off the running calendar and also a shame the organisers are trying to resort to guilt tactics to try and save it. I'll be signing up, but not sure who is to blame here.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Sippo on Sunday, September 4, 2016, 07:22:20
So what happens if you sign up and it doesn't go ahead? You lose your money.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: blinkpip on Sunday, September 4, 2016, 15:27:45
So what happens if you sign up and it doesn't go ahead? You lose your money.
It says all will be refunded.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Tuesday, September 6, 2016, 08:27:57
Well this seems as good a time as any to start begging for money.  Im doing the London marathon in aid of Teenage Cancer Trust next year.  If anyone would like to sponsor me Id be most grateful.

http://uk.virginmoneygiving.com/graemenash

Its a good charity which concentrates on the palliative care of youngsters who are tragically struck down with cancer in their prime.  Trying to make their teenage years as good as they can be as they are fighting through a horrible time of growing up whilst also facing the horrors of cancer.

Thanks



Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Tuesday, September 6, 2016, 10:28:52
Well this seems as good a time as any to start begging for money.  Im doing the London marathon in aid of Teenage Cancer Trust next year.  If anyone would like to sponsor me Id be most grateful.

http://uk.virginmoneygiving.com/graemenash

Its a good charity which concentrates on the palliative care of youngsters who are tragically struck down with cancer in their prime.  Trying to make their teenage years as good as they can be as they are fighting through a horrible time of growing up whilst also facing the horrors of cancer.

Thanks



Done.
Glad to help out and good luck.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Tuesday, September 6, 2016, 10:51:09
Thank you sir!


Sent from my iPhone


Title: Re: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, September 12, 2016, 19:35:31
Swindon half cancelled :(


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Monday, September 12, 2016, 19:53:55
This is absolute bollocks that a town the size of swindon can not hold an event of this size once a year. I'm not sure who is to blame.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Costanza on Monday, September 12, 2016, 19:59:19
Lee Power, obv.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, September 12, 2016, 20:29:33
Pretty sure Power no longer has an interest in running ;)


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Bogus Dave on Monday, September 12, 2016, 21:13:01
It's a shame, but not entirely unexpected. It just about scraped together enough money to go on last year - no big sponsor and (without wishing to go all Reginald) seqol have a million other things to focus on with a near non-existent budget to be able to put this on. It's a shame, but it'll be back in 3-4 years.

Hopefully it comes back it's with a sponsor with the clout to be able to put on a route that actually though the town - a la bath and Bristol - rather than the countryside snooze fest it is/was


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, September 13, 2016, 06:21:33
it was s great route with the hills! who wants to run though Swindon !!


Title: Re: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, September 13, 2016, 10:17:11
Swindon half cancelled :(

Propose it to SBC as the new borough motto.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Wednesday, September 28, 2016, 14:56:27
Has anyone received their annual London Marathon rejection magazine/letter yet? Going by previous years, I've had it by now. Maybe my luck has changed?!


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Bewster on Wednesday, September 28, 2016, 15:41:46
Has anyone received their annual London Marathon rejection magazine/letter yet? Going by previous years, I've had it by now. Maybe my luck has changed?!

I've not heard anything yet


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, September 28, 2016, 15:44:30
it's let you know 'by Tuesday 18 October'


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Ardiles on Wednesday, September 28, 2016, 15:57:02
I let my running habit lapse after completing the London Marathon again in 2014.  I'd been going out only sporadically since then...until a few weeks ago, when I finally got my act together.  Just needed a little structure.  I'm setting the alarm for 6am now on a Monday, Wednesday & Friday and going out for a short run (about 4 miles at the moment) before getting ready for work.  Two weeks in, and I'm kicking myself for not doing this earlier.  Great to be back again.

And then my wife spotted last week that the inaugural Farnborough Half Marathon (http://www.farnboroughhalf.co.uk) takes place this January...so I've signed up.  Something to aim for, which always helps.  Anyone missing the cancelled Swindon Half might want to give it a go?


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Sippo on Wednesday, September 28, 2016, 18:48:34
If anyone needs a bag for any events, then I highly recommend a kitbrix bag. Solid, well made and built to last. Bit expensive, but worth every penny in my opinion.


Www.kitbrix.com


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, September 28, 2016, 19:01:33
bugger that, my £15 Nike from sports direct was a luxury purchase!!


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, October 3, 2016, 15:44:15
BALLOT UPDATE: The earliest date 2017 ballot entrants will hear from us is Monday 10 October 👉 https://t.co/tdfuCpFaZI #LondonMarathon https://t.co/aRuQXSM5rn


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, October 11, 2016, 12:32:31
Didn't get in, surprise surprise.

You can check yourself if you haven't had the magazine yet. Find a previous VLM email, hit unsubscribe link, check which 2017 mailing list you are on.

:(


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, October 11, 2016, 13:14:00
Sorry to hear that.

Does the Brighton Marathon (the week before) still have places?  I'd be tempted if I had a knock back from London.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Bogus Dave on Tuesday, October 11, 2016, 14:23:52
Brighton is releasing a few more entries soon http://www.brightonmarathon.co.uk/general-entries-reopening

I didn't get into London either, looking at the mailing list. Debating whether to go for a charity spot, but the ethical issue of not raising the stupid amounts they require is putting me off


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, October 11, 2016, 15:36:24
yeah, registered for updates from Brighton. but not sure ..


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Tuesday, October 11, 2016, 21:46:58
Didnt get on the ballot in the normal way, but have my Teenage Cancer trust charity place so thats all ok.  Apparently Ive been sent some nice training shirt for failing in the ballot.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Bogus Dave on Tuesday, October 11, 2016, 22:23:43
I got one of those a few years ago. It is nice in all fairness, but it's a bit weird running around in a London marathon branded too when you haven't actually ran the marathon


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Wednesday, October 12, 2016, 00:05:13
I ran in the teenage cancer trust vest they've sent me the other week.  First time Ive worn a running vest, or indeed any vest in anything but jest since 1988.  It felt weird.  Suppose Id better get used to it.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, October 12, 2016, 06:09:10
you do get used to it, and in summer you'll start to prefer it.

think I might try Brighton, anyone done it?


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: blinkpip on Thursday, October 13, 2016, 12:07:09
I was rejected again this week.  :no:

But managed to get a Charity Place with Carers Trust.

Please donate:  ;) and Ill return a donation and beat Sam Parkins time :-*

https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/Philip-Daniels


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Monday, October 17, 2016, 19:23:48
Signed up for attempt two of London.

This one is more for atmosphere than time, so we'll see how it goes. Any TEF'ers fancy a training partner?


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, October 17, 2016, 20:04:48
I've injured myself again. fucks sake. hippie it's not too bad this time. stupid calf


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, October 17, 2016, 20:06:59
I've injured myself again. fucks sake. hippie it's not too bad this time. stupid calf

Laying off that LSD might help, man.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, October 17, 2016, 20:20:50
:)


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, January 17, 2017, 18:57:55
The new Swindon half marathon route looks like a big improvement, anyone looking at doing it?

www.facebook.com/newswindonhalf


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, January 17, 2017, 20:30:12
liked the old one better (ut yeah, not viable so had to change).

Will do Chippenham instead if A) fit b) not in the great north run


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: blinkpip on Wednesday, January 18, 2017, 09:12:29
The new Swindon half marathon route looks like a big improvement, anyone looking at doing it?

www.facebook.com/newswindonhalf
Yep ill be doing it, along with the London M, Bath, Cheltenham, Bournemouth and I'm thinking about the Reading one too.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Red Frog on Wednesday, January 18, 2017, 12:19:36
I'm doing Marseille in March. Worried that if the police see anyone running there, their instinct will be to give chase.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Ardiles on Wednesday, January 18, 2017, 12:27:33
The new Swindon half marathon route looks like a big improvement, anyone looking at doing it?

www.facebook.com/newswindonhalf

I would have, but it's a few days after we get back from holiday in France...so not the best timing.

I'm running the Farnborough Half Marathon this weekend - the first time the event has been held, and my first half marathon in quite a while.  Aiming for a slow & steady 2 hrs 15 mins!


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, March 31, 2017, 09:27:04
Do you lot pick up many niggles?

I've been using a treadmill for about a month now. I got the usual expected aches and pains but that passed. I didn't start running/jogging until earlier this week and now the insides of my knees are killing me. I had to give it a rest today and will be until the pain subsides I think. I'm walking about like fucking Robocop at the moment, I must look ridiculous.

Google tells me that it's probably just tight muscles and it'll pass soon, I bloody hope so.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Friday, March 31, 2017, 09:35:31
do i pick up any niggles? i am my physios retirement plan, put it that way... this week the aching Achilles.

other than a good dynamic warmup and a dynamic/static cool down, regular stretching on off days, rolling the  muscles, and making sure that you have a decent and correct pair of trainers i have no real advice...

 rest, cross train (swimming  for me loosens me up), listen to your body and invent a time machine to go back 20 years to your youth!


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, March 31, 2017, 09:38:59
I've been going 6 days a week. Maybe bit much for an unhealthy fat lump as myself?


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Sippo on Friday, March 31, 2017, 09:40:44
6 days a week is a lot if just starting off. Rest is also key to exercise. How about every other day. Remember to do short distances to start at a steady pace.


Title: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Friday, March 31, 2017, 09:46:59
i start with 2, build up to 3 a week, and start short and slow, build up distance on one run and vary the other 2 faster/shorter, hills, etc.  

just finishing second month of 6 miles max in other to try and build a stronger base before increasing distance. not introduced hills or intervals yet.

 i generally don't even do 4 a week these days for fear of breaking, everyone is different but i find that i can improve on that amount. i do swim too (badly)

6 is far too many, especially for a beginner. muscles need a break between.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, March 31, 2017, 10:00:04
I'll take it a bit easier then. I've been trying to burn up calories to get rid of my beer belly. As magnificent as it is, it needs to go.

It's not shifted so far though, it's standing its ground. I'm almost proud of its perseverance, it's definitely going to be the last man standing.

No rush though. Rome wasn't built in a day and all that jazz.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: pauld on Friday, March 31, 2017, 10:14:23
It'd definitely be worth looking at a couch to 5k plan or similar. Starting off, you should probably start with 3 short-ish runs a week, that might be as little as 20 mins even (plus warm-up and cool down time, don't neglect pre-run warmup and post-run stretches or you *will* get injured). And you should vary the type/pace of run - just going flat out shit or bust will greatly increase your chance of injury and actually won't shift the belly. A slow run is actually better for fat burning than a fast run,  even though a faster run (over the same time) will burn more calories. You'd be better off starting out easy and increasing pace as you get fitter as it will help you avoid injury and better match your goals.

If you can't find a plan you like, you can generate your own using this:
http://gip.is/


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, March 31, 2017, 10:19:15
Thanks. I've been doing more fast walking than actual running, it's only this week I've managed to do something that even resembles a running stride. 2 1/2 minutes of jogging and I'm close to throwing up, that's how unfit I am.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: pauld on Friday, March 31, 2017, 10:29:55
Thanks. I've been doing more fast walking than actual running, it's only this week I've managed to do something that even resembles a running stride. 2 1/2 minutes of jogging and I'm close to throwing up, that's how unfit I am.
You'll be surprised how quickly it builds up. Any half decent couch to 5k plan will include some interval runs (where you intersperse a couple of minutes of quicker running with a slower recovery for a couple of minutes) which will help build your overall fitness. Important thing is to keep at it, do it regularly as a habit and don't overdo it. Cos you won't get any fitter if you pull something in the first week and then can't run for the next three weeks!


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Friday, March 31, 2017, 10:36:26
Thanks. I've been doing more fast walking than actual running, it's only this week I've managed to do something that even resembles a running stride. 2 1/2 minutes of jogging and I'm close to throwing up, that's how unfit I am.

couch to 5K is a good suggestion. Nothing wrong with walk/running to build up. Just remember that your muscles take time to "repair" after exercise, hence rest is vital.

As for killing the beer belly by calorie count, if you are strict enough get the free myfitnesspal app for your phone.  Log absolutely everything.  Only snag I can see is if myfitnesspal doesn't have many Thai based brands in its database.

My issue is I over compensate from running by eating shit loads.

As long as you stick to a sensible schedule you'll be fine. Even I managed a HM, I couldn't run much more than a mile when I started.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, March 31, 2017, 10:57:41
I've started eating more. That's not necessarily a bad thing though as I wasn't eating enough, my calories were coming mostly from beer. I was leading such an inactive lifestyle that I simply had no appetite.

I don't have a bad diet though. Lots of fresh food and very little is processed. I might grab a burger once a week.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Ginginho on Friday, March 31, 2017, 11:16:59
Running is a nightmare for niggling injuries.
If you're training for a running event then fair enough, if not, I'd suggest cycling and swimming instead as it's easier on your joints and muscles.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Red Frog on Friday, March 31, 2017, 11:18:59
A nutritionist friend tells me that as long as you exercise, the body can process fats. It's sugar that needs to go. I've found it relatively easy to wean myself off most sweet stuff, but of course alcohol hides lots of sugar too. The only concession I've made there is drinking more wine than beer, but I know it's really hard to find affordable wine in Thailand.

Like most things, the hardest bit is the start, but if it's any help, I only started running 4 years ago. I was pitifully unfit at the start, but I've lost 4kg, and the latest HM I ran was 20 mins faster than my first.



Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, March 31, 2017, 11:26:00
I've considered the switch from beer to wine but, as you say, it's bloody expensive out here.

Other than that, I don't have a sweet tooth.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Samdy Gray on Friday, March 31, 2017, 11:39:26
A nutritionist friend tells me that as long as you exercise, the body can process fats. It's sugar that needs to go. I've found it relatively easy to wean myself off most sweet stuff, but of course alcohol hides lots of sugar too. The only concession I've made there is drinking more wine than beer, but I know it's really hard to find affordable wine in Thailand.

You don't even need the exercise, the body and brain can work just fine using fat (ketones) for energy. It's the way I've eaten for the last two years or so.

On the booze front; lager, beer and cider are to be avoided but dry wines and spirits are fine (just watch the mixers). Plus being in ketosis gets you drunk quicker so it's cheaper too!


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: pauld on Friday, March 31, 2017, 12:56:24
You don't even need the exercise, the body and brain can work just fine using fat (ketones) for energy. It's the way I've eaten for the last two years or so.
Samdy preparing to dine with the missus:
(http://www.youcaneatnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/lard.png)


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Samdy Gray on Friday, March 31, 2017, 13:47:34
Pretty much :)


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Wednesday, April 12, 2017, 20:55:33
Did my last long run pre London marathon today.  A very slow 17 miles.

If any of you fancy sticking any cash my way its for Teenage Cancer trust and my page is at

www.virginmoneygiving.com/graemenash

And if no one sponsors me, Ill put photos up of my chaffed inner thighs.  Its looking like a rare steak down there.





Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, April 13, 2017, 09:34:08
I went for my first run on Tuesday. When do my calves stop hurting? I'm keen to go again.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, April 13, 2017, 09:40:30
That varies on your general fitness. Don't rush it as rest is also vital.

How far did you run?


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Thursday, April 13, 2017, 10:26:52
I went for my first run on Tuesday. When do my calves stop hurting? I'm keen to go again.

DOMS, Probably a couple more days hurt but today likely the peak. Should get less/none of this when you go regularly.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, April 13, 2017, 10:44:52
I found my calves stopped hurting and the other parts started.

My knees are currently giving me grief. I think it may just be because they're not used to the regular impact, or something like that.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, April 13, 2017, 11:03:28
That varies on your general fitness. Don't rush it as rest is also vital.

How far did you run?

I cycle every day, average 50km a week. First run was 3km. Cardio wise I felt like I could go another 3km fairly easily but my body was just starting to hurt and didn't want to overdo it. Also had a massive blister. I was hoping to go again today but I'm nowhere near ready for another.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Thursday, April 13, 2017, 11:28:53
I find even switching from regular treadmill running  back to road knackers the muscles, particularly knees, at least for a few runs.



Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Thursday, April 13, 2017, 12:00:29
Did my last long run pre London marathon today.  A very slow 17 miles.

If any of you fancy sticking any cash my way its for Teenage Cancer trust and my page is at

www.virginmoneygiving.com/graemenash

And if no one sponsors me, Ill put photos up of my chaffed inner thighs.  Its looking like a rare steak down there.





Done.

Reading the running and cycling threads on here and seeing other people do exercise always makes me feel a lot fitter.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Thursday, April 13, 2017, 12:25:38
Thankyou sir!



Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, April 13, 2017, 15:04:52
No disrespect to Jayo, but why do people put their distances down in KM? Really annoys me, and makes it sound further than it actually is. I'm a miles man.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Ginginho on Thursday, April 13, 2017, 15:16:04
No disrespect to Jayo, but why do people put their distances down in KM? Really annoys me, and makes it sound further than it actually is. I'm a miles man.

Thank you.

It annoys me too, but I didn't want to bring up something so frivolous.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, April 13, 2017, 16:00:15
Welcome to the future you fucking dinosaurs


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Thursday, April 13, 2017, 16:06:48
who the fuck runs in km. Europeans, that's who.

you'll run your 1.864 miles and be thankful


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, April 13, 2017, 16:12:47
Don't worry boys you will be getting your blue passports back soon!  ;)

The cycling sportive I did in Belgium the other week was in KM's and frankly confused the bollocks out of me although i suppose 153km sounds better than 95 miles!  :hmmm:


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: pauld on Friday, April 14, 2017, 16:44:45
I went for my first run on Tuesday. When do my calves stop hurting? I'm keen to go again.
Make sure you do a proper warm-up/cool down, and include some heel drops in among the stretches.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, April 17, 2017, 13:05:05
Just got back from 2 hours at the gym after a (forced) break of a few days and for once I don't feel as though my body's about to snap.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, April 18, 2017, 16:52:57
Make sure you do a proper warm-up/cool down, and include some heel drops in among the stretches.

WTF is a heel drop? Warm ups and cool downs have helped my recovery time greatly.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, April 18, 2017, 17:08:10
WTF is a heel drop?

Calf stretch, presumably.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, April 18, 2017, 18:14:23
Calf stretch, presumably.
Ish, more aimed at the achilles but does help calf muscles too. But you should also do standard calf stretches, esp in cooldown

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKYnPr6Tw5o


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Ginginho on Tuesday, April 18, 2017, 18:39:33
I'll have to give those a go, might help my Achilles tendinopathy.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, April 18, 2017, 18:59:55
I'll have to give those a go, might help my Achilles tendinopathy.
Yeah, really helped me. I did 3 sets of 10-15 daily until it eased, then just incorporate a few on each leg in standard warm up. Touch wood, been OK since


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Wednesday, April 19, 2017, 10:38:42
Yeah I do those in my warm up already, thanks.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Monday, April 24, 2017, 09:27:03
Lying in bed as my ankles no longer work. 

Managed to complete the London Marathon yesterday in 4 hours 54 minutes which I think is ok for a 45 year old who didn't start running until 4 years ago and 5 years ago was 18 and a half stone.

Currently raised £3700 (£4500 roughly including gift aid) for teenage cancer trust.  Thanks to those of you who donated.  Hopefully this will go up and I might get in one way or another to £5k.

If anyone manages to get on to run it I'd massively recommend it.  It was a fantastic day.  People line the entire route shouting your name.  To be honest around mile 15 fat blokes outside a pub shouting 'go on keep going' does start to get a little irritating, but then it started to be helpful again around mile 22!

The roar of the crowd when you go round places like Cutty Sark and Canary wharf is brilliantly inspiring.

And as a further plus point I managed to completely avoid whatever happened in the football this weekend.  Looking on the website everything is ok yeah?


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, April 24, 2017, 09:31:51


And as a further plus point I managed to completely avoid whatever happened in the football this weekend.  Looking on the website everything is ok yeah?

Yes. It's all fine and dandy. Just take my word for it, no need to check for yourself.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, April 24, 2017, 09:33:07
Oh, and well done on the marathon.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: pauld on Monday, April 24, 2017, 10:10:06
That's superb Saxondale. Both the run itself and the amount raised.

I'm going to use this to shamelessly crosspost my own slightly more modest efforts - the Muddy Dog Challenge is a 5k with some muddy bits/obstacles, and you run it with your dog, to raise money for Battersea Dog's Home:
http://thetownend.com/index.php?topic=56960.msg1422208


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Monday, April 24, 2017, 10:35:57
Saw that mate.  I will sponsor you some time closer.  Just keep reminding us!


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: pauld on Monday, April 24, 2017, 10:40:40
Saw that mate.  I will sponsor you some time closer.  Just keep reminding us!
Cheers and don't worry I will. tbh, you're sponsoring the dog really, I'm just the tag-along :)


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: blinkpip on Monday, April 24, 2017, 16:10:22
Lying in bed as my ankles no longer work. 

Managed to complete the London Marathon yesterday in 4 hours 54 minutes which I think is ok for a 45 year old who didn't start running until 4 years ago and 5 years ago was 18 and a half stone.

Currently raised £3700 (£4500 roughly including gift aid) for teenage cancer trust.  Thanks to those of you who donated.  Hopefully this will go up and I might get in one way or another to £5k.

If anyone manages to get on to run it I'd massively recommend it.  It was a fantastic day.  People line the entire route shouting your name.  To be honest around mile 15 fat blokes outside a pub shouting 'go on keep going' does start to get a little irritating, but then it started to be helpful again around mile 22!

The roar of the crowd when you go round places like Cutty Sark and Canary wharf is brilliantly inspiring.

And as a further plus point I managed to completely avoid whatever happened in the football this weekend.  Looking on the website everything is ok yeah?

Well done dude. It was amazing experience this weekend. (first Swindon home game I missed since 2011) perfect timing.

I manage 3:17 and i'm walking like a penguin.  :)


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Monday, April 24, 2017, 16:18:07
Excellent stuff.  Times I can only ever dream of!  Maybe next year.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Monday, April 24, 2017, 19:34:07
Cheers and don't worry I will. tbh, you're sponsoring the dog really, I'm just the tag-along :)

Thanks for the sponsorship as well PD.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Ginginho on Monday, April 24, 2017, 19:39:52
Great stuff, well done Sax and Blinkpip.

I can only imagine the buzz of completing the London Marathon.

I did the Swindon half a few years ago and even that was great for people on the sides encouraging you, I can't even imagine what the London Marathon must be like.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: pauld on Monday, April 24, 2017, 22:24:47
Thanks for the sponsorship as well PD.
NP, thought I already had tbh. Useless git, me.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Nemo on Monday, August 21, 2017, 20:18:40
Anyone from here doing the New Swindon Half in a couple of weekends time? I'm signed up, can't say I've trained enough but aiming to pull out something around 1 45. Would be good to see a few TEFers on the way round.


Title: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, August 21, 2017, 20:21:21
I'm there, day after holidays. going to struggle to get round in a smidge under 2 (literally 1:58 or so). still, nearly gave up in January thanks to two years worth of injuries, so just to get round this year is a start.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, August 22, 2017, 06:35:30
Fair play to anyone doing it. I've just started and can barely do 4.5km


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, August 22, 2017, 06:48:21
that's how everyone starts jayo, it takes a while but if I can do it....

I found the 3-6 mile buildup the hardest (probably just a mental thing).


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, August 22, 2017, 10:32:54
In fairness, once you get to a reasonable level of fitness, carrying on slowly over a long distance isn't *that* hard at the time if you're not trying to push the pace. It just hurts for the next week if you weren't properly prepared...

That said, I've never got to the end of a half and fancied doing the same again, so fair play to marathon types


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, August 22, 2017, 10:49:29
I stopped running a few weeks back. I think it's just not for me. I'm still going to the gym and want to do something for cardio work, just not running. It bores me. I don't like it.

I wonder if it may be different if I had somewhere I could run rather than just a treadmill in the gym.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, August 22, 2017, 10:57:19
It helps to have some chums to run with from time to time. Bit of competition and external motivation. Or sign up to an easy-going running group with a bit of social thrown in.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, August 22, 2017, 11:00:35
I'm not that fussed though. I never really had the intention of being a runner, it was always just a means to get in decent shape, which is the goal.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, August 22, 2017, 11:18:11
Yep, whatever works. You need to start a gym jocks thread to share your sweaty experiences with.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, August 22, 2017, 12:12:38
It bores me. I don't like it.

No point then.

I feel much the same way about swimming. But it oils my legs between runs so I am keeping at it.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Tuesday, August 22, 2017, 13:12:07
I do 0.5m on the treadmill and am knackered!


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Ginginho on Tuesday, August 22, 2017, 13:33:52
I do 0.5m on the treadmill and am knackered!

pfft, even I can manage a whole metre!


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: blinkpip on Tuesday, August 22, 2017, 16:18:03
Anyone from here doing the New Swindon Half in a couple of weekends time? I'm signed up, can't say I've trained enough but aiming to pull out something around 1 45. Would be good to see a few TEFers on the way round.
Im doing it. Aiming for 1.24 pb. :)


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, August 22, 2017, 16:54:55
Im doing it. Aiming for 1.24 pb. :)

'kin hell. Whippet.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, August 22, 2017, 19:39:48
Blinkandyou'llmissitpip


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Tuesday, August 22, 2017, 20:01:26
Might do Chippenham half on the 10th Sept again.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Tuesday, August 22, 2017, 20:58:29
Had confirmation of my number for Swindon half via email today, looking forward to it. Hoping for a sub 1.30, did a couple of sub 1.30 earlier in the year (Yeovil and Reading), so could be on the cards.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, August 22, 2017, 21:51:42
This has reminded me not to plan on driving anywhere on 3rd September 🙂


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Friday, August 25, 2017, 13:11:52
Then again, maybe I won't be struggling around after all. Calf issue again :( Absolutely gutted, looks unlikely as things stand.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: RobertT on Friday, August 25, 2017, 13:13:48
Are you the Obika/Thompson of running Batch?


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Friday, August 25, 2017, 13:15:28
Are you the Obika/Thompson of running Batch?

Yup. Make Jonathan Woodgate look ever-present.

Thing is, I really enjoy it. Just can't get into cycling, swimming, etc.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, August 25, 2017, 13:20:28
I love cycling, I'm just in the wrong place for it.

Sorry to hear about the injury.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Friday, August 25, 2017, 13:22:21
Thanks. We'll se how it goes, it has been known to stiffen and ease off over a couple of days.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Red Frog on Friday, August 25, 2017, 15:16:46
Thanks. We'll se how it goes, it has been known to stiffen and ease off over a couple of days.

When I got a calf strain, I tried exercising too quickly, and set it back - had to take a full month off before starting again.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, August 26, 2017, 03:47:29
your absolutely right. I've had a load of calf trouble over the last 2 years, and if it's pulled then it's over.

New for me in 2017 is the tendancy for the junction between Achilles and calf to stiffen, this is sometimes ok in a week or so as it doesn't actually tear.

we'll see, too early to say which as they feel similar for a couple of days


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Saturday, August 26, 2017, 07:23:52
I keep trying to start running but my right ankle is made of biscuits. I'm going to persevere because I do enjoy it but I always seem to hurt for days/weeks after even a shortish run


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Ginginho on Saturday, August 26, 2017, 08:04:41
I went for a run the other morning and managed to pull a muscle in my back, been struggling to walk for two days.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: pauld on Saturday, August 26, 2017, 08:13:05
I keep trying to start running but my right ankle is made of biscuits. I'm going to persevere because I do enjoy it but I always seem to hurt for days/weeks after even a shortish run
It will strengthen. These might help accelerate the process:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pf2EDeB6wkQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7DvnV2m7Us

And running off road will help as well, although go for park trails and paths rather than fields/completely cross country initially.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Saturday, August 26, 2017, 09:30:14
Thanks Paul, I've been doing the drops on a kerb as part of my warm up, although I have also jumped straight into cross country


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, August 26, 2017, 09:48:41
I always felt as though I was going to injure myself when running. I was never 100% comfortable with it.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: pauld on Saturday, August 26, 2017, 19:40:51
I always felt as though I was going to injure myself when running.
Should have left the scissors at home


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Nemo on Sunday, September 3, 2017, 08:36:51
Gonna rain all afternoon. Now there's an incentive to run faster...


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Sunday, September 3, 2017, 13:26:07
Impressed with the new Half-Marathon. Really nice route and plenty of lively support despite the weather.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Nemo on Sunday, September 3, 2017, 13:30:49
Yeah, I enjoyed that, good course although Piper's Way nearly finished me off. Seem to be a lot of car drivers on Twitter getting very upset at not being able to go for a Sunday drive but there you go.

Finished in a little under 1'42 so happy with that. Hope it doesn't get pushed back out of town next year.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Sunday, September 3, 2017, 14:14:37
I liked the old course, but its not sustainable so it's not going back there.

congratulations Nemo and BBJL, good effort.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Red Frog on Sunday, September 3, 2017, 15:19:44
Yep, always hard training through the summer, so well done Nemo and bigbob.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: skin_im_buzzer on Sunday, September 3, 2017, 21:49:14

New for me in 2017 is the tendancy for the junction between Achilles and calf to stiffen, this is sometimes ok in a week or so as it doesn't actually tear.

Sounds like an issue with your soleus (which is the diagonal muscle between the calf and achilles). Kept on pulling mine after 10 mins or so running outside (never an issue on the treadmill though) so found some soleus specific stretches on Youtube. Literally stretch each one once for 5 seconds before a run and after a run and it's sorted now.

I've also tried to change my technique to stop landing on my heel quite so much, to lessen the stress on the back of the leg. Apparently you're supposed to try and land more on the ball of the foot below the big toe!


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Sunday, September 10, 2017, 07:48:42
Anyone at nam half today


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: blinkpip on Sunday, September 10, 2017, 14:22:09
Anyone at nam half today
Yep me. :)


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Sunday, September 10, 2017, 16:24:11
Did you have a good one.  Clearly I didnt see you due to you being a whippet.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Sunday, September 10, 2017, 19:51:14
Anyone at nam half today

Me. I actually had more fun pacing it for a mate to get his first sub 1.40 then I did if I was running it for myself. Good course, excellent marshals and highly recommended.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Sunday, September 10, 2017, 21:03:35
fantastic organisation by the harriers, but 80% is my regular long run route and I hate that drag up Langley burrell (10-12).

week done to those that did it! at Leicester forest East services with Mrs B on way back from her doing Great North


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Sunday, September 10, 2017, 21:39:21
Was a good running day.  Little chilly, bit of rain about.  Im very slow but took 17 minutes off my time in 2014. 

And managed to keep ahead of my daughters tutor. Which is nice.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: blinkpip on Monday, September 11, 2017, 06:36:33
Did you have a good one.  Clearly I didnt see you due to you being a whippet.
1:26:58 It was a good day and event, enjoyed it. Bristol next.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Monday, September 11, 2017, 07:50:15
Nice one.  Thats bloody quick!


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Red Frog on Monday, September 11, 2017, 07:54:08
1:26:58 It was a good day and event, enjoyed it. Bristol next.

Eye-watering. How old did you say you are?


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: pauld on Monday, September 11, 2017, 08:52:12
Did you have a good one.  Clearly I didnt see you due to you being a whippet.
Suspect he's not actually visible to the naked eye, speed he goes


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, September 11, 2017, 09:33:49
1:26. blimey.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Monday, September 11, 2017, 15:32:39
Anyone done the Ridgeway 10 mile before? https://theridgewayrun.com/


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: blinkpip on Thursday, September 14, 2017, 16:43:52
Eye-watering. How old did you say you are?
35, to be fair I don't drink and I run two/three times a week to get this far.



Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Thursday, September 14, 2017, 17:35:41
Oh thats allright then.  Im 46 and could definitely have done that time when I was 35. 

For a mile.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Red Frog on Thursday, September 14, 2017, 18:50:43
Yeah, I'm 55 and I also run 2/3 times a week. But I do drink a bit...

I've just worked out you're averaging 4:07/km. Like Saxo, that's the speed of my fastest km on Nike+.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: blinkpip on Friday, September 15, 2017, 10:28:38
Great Bristol Run this Sunday, anyone running this? Half temped to wear my Swindon shirt, but probably get laughed at.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: pauld on Friday, September 15, 2017, 10:36:47
Oh thats allright then.  Im 46 and could definitely have done that time when I was 35. 

For a mile.

I might be able to do that kind of time if I was falling off something :)


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Red Frog on Friday, September 15, 2017, 11:31:09
Great Bristol Run this Sunday, anyone running this? Half temped to wear my Swindon shirt, but probably get laughed at.

They'll probably take it for a City shirt in the blur. And at worst, you can run away from them.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, October 3, 2017, 14:30:54
Note to self: You really need to stop leching at the fit birds in the gym.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Ginginho on Tuesday, October 3, 2017, 15:19:26
Don't be a twat, that's the only reason to go to a gym.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, October 3, 2017, 18:22:53
Getting back in to the swing again now, as I always do at this time of year.  For some reason, the cool, dark mornings are when I enjoy it most.  Early 4½ mile run before work sets me up for the rest of the day.  Love it.  And I always sleep like a log the following night.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, October 3, 2017, 18:53:56
running in the summer heat and pollen is a pain in the arse.

yeah, ok, it's not exactly been a consistent  problem on the heat front.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Thursday, October 5, 2017, 13:01:35
Anyone got a positive result from the London Marathon ballot.  Unsurprisingly I didnt.  In a fit of petulance i've registered to do the Paris Marathon next year.  Anyone done that?  Is it the opposite of the London marathon with no support, just a lot of people watching and shrugging their shoulders whilst smoking gaulloise?


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Batch on Thursday, October 5, 2017, 14:00:07
Nope, didn't get in. again.

Did the same last year with Brighton marathon. Signed up on the Monday, Injured on the Wednesday.Recovered far too late to even think about it.

Hasn't grumpy Dave done Paris?


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: pauld on Thursday, October 5, 2017, 14:08:29
Hasn't grumpy Dave done Paris?
Now there's a straight to DVD film title if ever there was


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, October 5, 2017, 15:11:18
pollen is a pain in the arse.


Why are you putting it there in the first place, causes enough irritation up the nose....


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Bogus Dave on Thursday, October 5, 2017, 21:05:00
I did Paris in 2013. It's quite well supported, and a pretty route. The last mile and a bit is a drag but it always is.

Be wary of the locals handing out drinks - saw one runner take one, take a sip then spit it out and say "c'est champagne"

Assuming it's still the case, but you need to get a signed and stamped doctors note saying you're fit enough to run. Have heard horror stories about people getting there's and overly fussy doctors, though mine was straightforward. And if all else fails, i doubt a Parisian volunteer is clued up enough on north wilts GP's to spot a well-done forgery


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: blinkpip on Friday, October 6, 2017, 08:46:07
No London for me either. Signed up for the Manchester one instead.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: Red Frog on Friday, October 6, 2017, 16:59:11
I did Paris in 2013. It's quite well supported, and a pretty route. The last mile and a bit is a drag but it always is.

Be wary of the locals handing out drinks - saw one runner take one, take a sip then spit it out and say "c'est champagne"

Assuming it's still the case, but you need to get a signed and stamped doctors note saying you're fit enough to run. Have heard horror stories about people getting there's and overly fussy doctors, though mine was straightforward. And if all else fails, i doubt a Parisian volunteer is clued up enough on north wilts GP's to spot a well-done forgery

I've done the doctor's cert thing a few times, and can help out if necessary, but it's pretty straightforward if you get it signed and stamped before you head out.


Title: Re: The Running Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, October 6, 2017, 17:05:50
Just don't have a Jozef Urban moment......


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, February 7, 2018, 15:53:16
Low carb diet: No pasta, rice, bread or potato. So what can I eat?


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Tails on Wednesday, February 7, 2018, 16:08:04
Are you doing the high fat ketosis thing?


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, February 7, 2018, 16:25:48
I doubt it, I don't even know what that is.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, February 7, 2018, 16:26:09
ditto.

another great North run ballot fail too


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Ginginho on Wednesday, February 7, 2018, 17:41:36
Low carb diet: No pasta, rice, bread or potato. So what can I eat?

Everything except pasta, rice, bread or potato.

Hope that helps!

Lots of protein (chicken, fish, etc) and veg/salad, but you already know that.



Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, February 7, 2018, 18:58:01
Eggs


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: blinkpip on Wednesday, February 7, 2018, 19:12:15
ditto.

another great North run ballot fail too

Unlucky dude, didn't expect to see so many rejections this morning. I somehow got in.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, February 7, 2018, 19:23:14
congratulations.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Ells on Wednesday, February 7, 2018, 20:55:54
Anyone trying to put on weight?


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, February 7, 2018, 21:49:45
Anyone trying to put on weight?
Don't need to try. Effortless :)


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, February 8, 2018, 05:42:14
Low carb diet: No pasta, rice, bread or potato. So what can I eat?

https://www.ruled.me/

Plenty of cruciferous veg (cauliflower, broccoli, sprouts, kale).
Meat.
Cheese.
Eggs.
Nuts.
Fathead Pizza. (https://www.ditchthecarbs.com/fat-head-pizza/)


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, February 8, 2018, 06:22:28
I have no cooking facilities in my apartment, other than a microwave and crap electric frying pan. People usually eat out here, and on every menu its carb-tastic.

Hoping to move before too long, then I can start cooking for myself.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Red Frog on Monday, April 9, 2018, 11:45:06
Did the Berlin Half in beautiful weather yesterday. If anyone fancies striking out a bit, I reckon this must be one of the best. 35k starters, but never felt crowded on the wide course, you go around all the sights, it's really flat, and there are free pints of Erdlinger at the finish - ok non-alcoholic, but it still tasted fantastic. Highly recommended.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, April 9, 2018, 11:53:44
Did the Berlin Half in beautiful weather yesterday. If anyone fancies striking out a bit, I reckon this must be one of the best. 35k starters, but never felt crowded on the wide course, you go around all the sights, it's really flat, and there are free pints of Erdlinger at the finish - ok non-alcoholic, but it still tasted fantastic. Highly recommended.

Good job the Deutsche polizei nabbed the jihadists...


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, April 9, 2018, 11:54:20
Thanks for the tip. if my body ever repairs itself I'll keep it in mind.

I know it could happen absolutely anywhere but the terror plot could have been a shocker..

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/04/08/german-police-arrest-man-suspected-terror-plot-berlin-half-marathon/amp/


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, April 9, 2018, 12:02:01
At the moment I cannot wait to be able to attempt to put weight on my foot again.

I had a bad rupture of my left Achilles on March 9th and Surgery on the 13th. Since then I have had 2 casts and now in a boot. I have been told I can put 50% body weight on my foot but with crutches this (to me at least) is tough as I have no confidence in putting pressure on it.

Its a godsend to be able to take off the boot and have a bath at last! I have physio on 20th April, does anyone know if there are any excercises I can do prior to physio that will strengthen the ankle? I am going on holiday 19th May and desperate to be able to do some walking given last week I could only sit down and be a raspberry!


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, April 9, 2018, 14:35:27
I lost 2 kilos in the last month, while gaining muscle. Fingers crossed that my belly might finally be losing the battle.



Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Monday, April 9, 2018, 14:52:09
In Arras after leaving Paris this morning having done the Marathon yesterday.  Hot.  And I have a million excuses for doing crap.  15 minutes more than my crap time in London last year.  Lovely weekend though.  A lot more relaxed than London - my kids jumped on to the course to run the last hundred metres with me.  They would probably have been wrestled the the ground and shot in London!

Nice course, 1 notable hill, a lot of annoying cobbles and potholes which resulted in my taking a tumble early on that I didn't really recover from.

Recommended though.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Monday, April 9, 2018, 15:06:21
I lost 2 kilos in the last month, while gaining muscle. Fingers crossed that my belly might finally be losing the battle.



Great work, most people usually gain weight when they gain muscle (the usual, muscle weighs more than fat). Good on you. That's excellent progress.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, April 9, 2018, 15:17:21
Great work, most people usually gain weight when they gain muscle (the usual, muscle weighs more than fat). Good on you. That's excellent progress.

Thanks

I'm not overweight so it wouldn't necessarily be a problem if I did put some on. It's not the weight that's the problem, rather how, and where, it's distributed. The belly's been stubborn so far but hopefully it's giving up the fight.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: pauld on Monday, April 9, 2018, 16:05:45
I have physio on 20th April, does anyone know if there are any excercises I can do prior to physio that will strengthen the ankle?
I'd be very wary of doing anything much without professional guidance, wait until you see the physio rather than risk causing a setback with well-meaning but ill-informed advice on t'interweb. Not worth it for the sake of a couple of weeks' headstart IMO


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, April 9, 2018, 16:32:19
I'd be very wary of doing anything much without professional guidance, wait until you see the physio rather than risk causing a setback with well-meaning but ill-informed advice on t'interweb. Not worth it for the sake of a couple of weeks' headstart IMO

You are probably right. I would be devastated if I buggered it again and had to start again!


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Monday, April 9, 2018, 19:17:16
Thanks

I'm not overweight so it wouldn't necessarily be a problem if I did put some on. It's not the weight that's the problem, rather how, and where, it's distributed. The belly's been stubborn so far but hopefully it's giving up the fight.

No absolutely, this is often the misconception with people in reference to cholesterol levels too. Many think that it's only overweight people who may have bad cholesterol levels. Total myth. Without suggesting your previous diet, did you used to enjoy "British style curries"? (I'm aware you're not UK based). Still great work though and indeed, that middle age spread catches up with all of us at some point and it's all relative to our own natural size, shape, metabolism and many other factors.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: blinkpip on Monday, April 9, 2018, 21:00:09
In Arras after leaving Paris this morning having done the Marathon yesterday.  Hot.  And I have a million excuses for doing crap.  15 minutes more than my crap time in London last year.  Lovely weekend though.  A lot more relaxed than London - my kids jumped on to the course to run the last hundred metres with me.  They would probably have been wrestled the the ground and shot in London!

Nice course, 1 notable hill, a lot of annoying cobbles and potholes which resulted in my taking a tumble early on that I didn't really recover from.

Recommended though.


Well done dude. Would love to do that, how much would it roughly cost for a weekend for two and race?


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, April 10, 2018, 06:35:57
In Arras after leaving Paris this morning having done the Marathon yesterday.  Hot.  And I have a million excuses for doing crap.  15 minutes more than my crap time in London last year.  Lovely weekend though.  A lot more relaxed than London - my kids jumped on to the course to run the last hundred metres with me.  They would probably have been wrestled the the ground and shot in London!

Nice course, 1 notable hill, a lot of annoying cobbles and potholes which resulted in my taking a tumble early on that I didn't really recover from.

Recommended though

Bloody well done. Every time I struggle over the line of a half-marathon, my esteem goes up for anyone who does a second lap.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Tuesday, April 10, 2018, 06:46:47
Thanks Gents

Cost wise - working it all out not cheap, very conservative estimates 

Race - 100
Doctors note - 30
Tunnel - 166
Airbnb - 300
Spending money - 200

Really probably at least a grand.  Im sure there are cheaper ways to do it but bringing the wife and 2 kids doesnt make it cheap.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Bewster on Tuesday, April 10, 2018, 09:08:33
Due a niggling knee injury I've had to limit the running and cycling but being a stress head I decided to use the headspace app and meditate every day in January. I did this and thought I'd carry on - I'm now up to 100 day streak.

It does make very subtle changes to you, but very positive ones.

and no I'm not a hippy, or vegan  :D   


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Tuesday, April 10, 2018, 15:42:35
Due a niggling knee injury I've had to limit the running and cycling but being a stress head I decided to use the headspace app and meditate every day in January. I did this and thought I'd carry on - I'm now up to 100 day streak.

It does make very subtle changes to you, but very positive ones.

and no I'm not a hippy, or vegan  :D   

Yep I've used this in the past. Simple techniques and once you get it/accept what it's doing then it's a fantastic tool to have. I go back to it every now and again but have used my own meditation as well as Tai Chi, which is amazing the more you develop it.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, April 10, 2018, 23:49:17
https://www.ruled.me/

Plenty of cruciferous veg (cauliflower, broccoli, sprouts, kale).
Meat.
Cheese.
Eggs.
Nuts.
Fathead Pizza. (https://www.ditchthecarbs.com/fat-head-pizza/)


Best to do during the summer months so you can get the windows open.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Thursday, April 12, 2018, 14:25:25
Anyone interested in this or needs that kick up the arse to get outdoors...My friend Tina and her transition from couch to trail running is featured here;

https://twitter.com/OEmagazine/status/98437054118753?s=20 (https://twitter.com/OEmagazine/status/98437054118753?s=20)

or directly via here (page 14/15)

http://www.oe-mag.co.uk/imag/oespring2018/ (http://www.oe-mag.co.uk/imag/oespring2018/)


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Saturday, April 27, 2019, 10:38:28
Anyone doing London Marathon this year?

My continued mid life crisis has resulted in me in doing a few little marathon in the last couple of years.  This year Im doing 5 marathons for Shelter trying to raise 8k for the homeless.  Tomorrow is my 3rd marathon this month.  Manchester followed by Brighton the next week was a bit of a daft move.

Anyway, had a week off so it should hurt as badly tomorrow.  If any of you are feeling generous please do sponsor me here

http://uk.virginmoneygiving.com/fundraiser-portal/fundraiserPage?pageId=966171

The shelter running shirt is a lovely red and white which makes me feel at home, though it is a little tight around my still ample gut. 




Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Saturday, April 27, 2019, 11:00:58
Anyone doing London Marathon this year?

My continued mid life crisis has resulted in me in doing a few little marathon in the last couple of years.  This year Im doing 5 marathons for Shelter trying to raise 8k for the homeless.  Tomorrow is my 3rd marathon this month.  Manchester followed by Brighton the next week was a bit of a daft move.

Anyway, had a week off so it should hurt as badly tomorrow.  If any of you are feeling generous please do sponsor me here

http://uk.virginmoneygiving.com/fundraiser-portal/fundraiserPage?pageId=966171

The shelter running shirt is a lovely red and white which makes me feel at home, though it is a little tight around my still ample gut. 




Yeah, I'll chip in tomorrow when sober.
Very good cause.

The London Marathon isn't quite the spectacle that it was for the viewer, once the BBC stopped showing the "wobblers" a few years back.
In today's blood thirsty society I'm surprised that big corporations haven't taken control in order to spice up these events.
Getting rid of the last 100 stragglers (including any roving reporters) after every mile would inject a bit of much needed pace into the event.
People in diving suits and grannies over 95 would be exempt from extermination.

Good luck anyway.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Saturday, April 27, 2019, 12:03:35
Thanks Bob.

I reckon I might be safe.  London does attract a good deal of people even slower than me.  When you say 'get rid of' are we talking shootings?  Sounds good to me.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, May 9, 2019, 10:22:57
Anyone signed up for the Swindon Half on September 22nd? (https://www.newswindonhalf.co.uk/)

Did the first year of the new course in 2017 but missed last year, hoping to beat my time from last time around (1:41) at least and hopefully get well into the 30s.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Batch on Thursday, May 9, 2019, 10:27:05
No.

Knee injury/'arthritis' for last 14 months. CAT scans, injections and the consultant next month. Would be happy to walk around without pain at this stage.

Plus, new course looks dull.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: pauld on Thursday, May 9, 2019, 14:34:16
Plus, new course looks dull.
It looks like someone's drawn a pair of balls across the town centre mainly:
https://www.newswindonhalf.co.uk/half-marathon/route/


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, May 9, 2019, 14:44:38
It looks like someone's drawn a pair of balls across the town centre mainly:
https://www.newswindonhalf.co.uk/half-marathon/route/

Wait till you see the full marathon course...


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Ardiles on Thursday, May 9, 2019, 17:08:36
I can't see anything wrong with that course.  Passes through plenty of residential areas, which is what you want.

I'm plodding round the Wimbledon Half this weekend at my usual 10 min/mile.  I'm dead slow, but still enjoy a good half.  Training has consisted mainly of running home (to Farnborough) from work (Bracknell).  Ten mile route that takes you through Swinley Forest...which is usually deserted.  I love that section.  Marvellous way to end the day.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Batch on Thursday, May 9, 2019, 17:10:30
must be be, I liked the hills and the countryside


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: blinkpip on Friday, May 10, 2019, 18:36:50
Anyone signed up for the Swindon Half on September 22nd? (https://www.newswindonhalf.co.uk/)

Did the first year of the new course in 2017 but missed last year, hoping to beat my time from last time around (1:41) at least and hopefully get well into the 30s.

Ill be there, always a good course and finish this. :)


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Sunday, July 21, 2019, 18:35:03
I started running again this year and starting to build up my distance - I've done 13km runs the last two weeks. One thing though, I keep getting blood blisters on the inside of the ball on my left foot. I managed to get the last one off last week and have rubbed down the callous etc but got a new one today that is even bigger.

I'm not going to pop it or anything but interested in preventing it from happening again. I don't use 'proper' running socks but I have decent shoes in good condition. Any tips or recommendations, particularly from the longer distance folk?


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Sunday, July 21, 2019, 18:48:35
Are they hurting at all?  I learnt to live with it.  My toes are fucked.  I used to have toenails.  The blisters between the toes are just another reason to not wear sandals.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: pauld on Sunday, July 21, 2019, 19:02:00
I started running again this year and starting to build up my distance - I've done 13km runs the last two weeks. One thing though, I keep getting blood blisters on the inside of the ball on my left foot. I managed to get the last one off last week and have rubbed down the callous etc but got a new one today that is even bigger.

I'm not going to pop it or anything but interested in preventing it from happening again. I don't use 'proper' running socks but I have decent shoes in good condition. Any tips or recommendations, particularly from the longer distance folk?
Blisters are caused by rubbing (I guess you know that :) )
1) Do your shoes fit properly? All very well them being decent shoes in good condition, but if they don't fit properly, they'll rub
2) Are you lacing them tight enough/too tight? Using the ankle lock hole when lacing (if your shoes have them) may help
3) Might be worth getting some double-walled anti-blister running socks. Opinions vary as to their effectiveness - those that use/need them swear by them, others don't rate them at all.
https://www.sportsshoes.com/product/hil164/hilly-twin-skin-anklet-%7E-ss19/


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Sunday, July 21, 2019, 19:38:36
Cheers, pretty sure the shoes fit alright. I got them fitted in Run with gait analysis etc. Maybe they aren't tight enough, I do like them fairly loose.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Batch on Sunday, July 21, 2019, 19:40:28
get some decent socks. 13km is a long way on shit socks

hopefully your feet will toughen up a bit over time.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Nijholts Nuts on Monday, July 22, 2019, 05:47:10
A trick that I was taught by a Marine during my days stomping across hills was to cut the feet off some particular slippery tights and put these in between feet and socks hence reducing the friction. Works wonders in a pair of combat boots, but never tried it in running shoes.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Red Frog on Monday, July 22, 2019, 07:34:31
Cheers, pretty sure the shoes fit alright. I got them fitted in Run with gait analysis etc. Maybe they aren't tight enough, I do like them fairly loose.

I reckon that's your problem. You don't want any movement between shoe and foot.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Monday, July 22, 2019, 07:56:07
Thanks for the tips everyone


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: pauld on Monday, July 22, 2019, 08:25:06
A trick that I was taught by a Marine during my days stomping across hills was to cut the feet off some particular slippery tights and put these in between feet and socks hence reducing the friction.
Pretty much the same idea as the double walled anti-blister socks

hopefully your feet will toughen up a bit over time.
Are you accusing jayo of having nancy feet?


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Monday, July 22, 2019, 09:55:34
Yeah the trouble is, once I get the blisters off it's down to fresh skin every time which then blisters up again!


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, July 22, 2019, 09:59:51
Does anybody have problems with ankles?

One of mine is proper fucked. I have no intention of running anyway, but it's weak and I worry spraining it (yet again). I was thinking of getting boots or some other kind of support to help protect it, would that do the job?


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Monday, July 22, 2019, 10:06:07
Yes, I injured my right ankle pretty badly when I was about 13 and it's never been the same since. I wouldn't bother trying to protect it with boots or compression as ideally you want it to be stronger.

Yoga helped me. Particularly moves like the tree, triangle, warrior etc.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, July 22, 2019, 10:09:27
Cheers. I'll have a look into it.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: pauld on Monday, July 22, 2019, 10:24:16
Yeah the trouble is, once I get the blisters off it's down to fresh skin every time which then blisters up again!
Don't know if it will help with blister on ball of the feet but Compeed are excellent for this kind of problem on the heel. Not cheap but do the job brilliantly


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, July 22, 2019, 10:43:15
Yes, I injured my right ankle pretty badly when I was about 13 and it's never been the same since. I wouldn't bother trying to protect it with boots or compression as ideally you want it to be stronger.

Yoga helped me. Particularly moves like the tree, triangle, warrior etc.

How is it going, I fucked my right ankle when I was under 10 and whilst its generally OK it aches like buggery when the weather is wet and it also seems like the foot I get the gout problems with, Doc have suggested it could be to do with arthritis due to the damage I did previously?


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Monday, July 22, 2019, 11:53:11
My ankle hurts all the time but now it's pretty strong I feel like I could run on it forever. I imagine I'll pay for it as I get older.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, July 22, 2019, 11:58:25
Mine doesn't 'hurt' as such. I wouldn't call it pain, but I can always feel as though something is just not right, and one wrong step means it's sprained again. That's one of the things that worries me most about it --- it's very fucking painful to sprain it and the pain does not go away quickly.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: pauld on Monday, July 22, 2019, 12:15:13
I've used these before to strengthen the ankle when coming back from injury/sprains etc:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7DvnV2m7Us


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Monday, July 22, 2019, 14:33:54
Whatever happened to Blinkpip?  He's the one to talk to about running.  He's a proper runner.  Constantly at it and runs marathons in about half the time I have ever done!


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: blinkpip on Monday, July 22, 2019, 16:52:12
Whatever happened to Blinkpip?  He's the one to talk to about running.  He's a proper runner.  Constantly at it and runs marathons in about half the time I have ever done!

I'm still about, just a lurker nowadays.

My advice is on injuries, is see a physio asap, don't leave it too late (easily done like me). Though I seen 4 different physios until my injury problems was solved. You have to find the right person that you have full confidence in, if not then change (can get expensive, sadly).
They will probably check/focus your footwear first.

Hope some of you are running the last Swindon Half in September. :)


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Monday, July 29, 2019, 09:27:08
Thanks for the tips and advice everyone, especially those who correctly surmised that my trainers were too loose. Did 15km yesterday with them done up a bit tighter and no massive blisters this time. I'm yet to get proper socks but thinking I'll get some soon.

Got one eye on the Swindon Half now which would be my first ever race.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, July 29, 2019, 09:33:20
How is it going, I fucked my right ankle when I was under 10 and whilst its generally OK it aches like buggery when the weather is wet and it also seems like the foot I get the gout problems with, Doc have suggested it could be to do with arthritis due to the damage I did previously?

I snapped my ankle when I was 13 (foot went back further than it should  :)) I have to say I don't get issues with it at all, must be lucky.

Football injury  :toocool:


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: ibelieveinmrreeves on Monday, July 29, 2019, 09:35:56
I started doing park run about two months ago, was actually going out for (short) runs in the week as well. Strained my calf a couple of weeks ago though (and did it again at the weekend) so I'm thinking I'll have to wait a bit longer to return. Annoying as I was really hoping to make some progress over the summer and start improving my 5k time and maybe doing some longer runs as well.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, July 29, 2019, 09:40:09
I twisted my ankle as a 3 year old, I vowed that day that it was the end of my running career. Turns out to have been true.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, July 29, 2019, 09:40:51
calf strains can be real buggers, I'm speaking from lots of experience!

while everyone heals at different speed, it can take 4-6 weeks for recovery.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, July 29, 2019, 09:43:52
I run like mr blobby, I tend to thud with each stride which is why I don't run. Any tips on how to be more springy? I could do with getting fitter.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Monday, July 29, 2019, 09:54:55
I run like mr blobby, I tend to thud with each stride which is why I don't run. Any tips on how to be more springy? I could do with getting fitter.

Gait analysis and proper trainers.. prepare to pay a decent amount, though.

Getting running shoes 'off the shelf' is generally a bad idea, need to go for ones to suit your style and build/posture etc.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Red Frog on Monday, July 29, 2019, 10:43:54
calf strains can be real buggers, I'm speaking from lots of experience!

while everyone heals at different speed, it can take 4-6 weeks for recovery.

Same for me, and longer for tendons. Just back from 7 weeks off with strained Achilles. Have paid the price before for rushing back when it feels ok. Nothing for it but to sit it out (and if you're more dedicated than me, work on upper-body strength, which is more useful for running than you'd think).


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Ginginho on Monday, July 29, 2019, 11:48:20
Do people use energy gels on longish runs? I've never used them, do they help?


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Monday, July 29, 2019, 11:51:28
Do people use energy gels on longish runs? I've never used them, do they help?

I do whenever I do 12k or more.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Monday, July 29, 2019, 12:00:12
What is it for? Calories?


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, July 29, 2019, 12:18:57
Do people use energy gels on longish runs? I've never used them, do they help?

Didn't used to when road training up to half.
Did on a few long runs on the Cotswold Way, and for the actual half marathon. And quite often ran with a water bottle in summer too.

Always try before the event! Different brands can cause different reactions too. I found SIS fine, but some other brand gave me stomach cramp!


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, July 29, 2019, 12:19:20
What is it for? Calories?

Yeah. Quick release energy hit. Think its 'only' 200 or so cals.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Nijholts Nuts on Tuesday, July 30, 2019, 11:17:09
A question for runners who have trained / training for anything over 10km: Does creatine actually aid your recovery or is it just for 'power' sports people and not 'endurance'? I have read mixed opinions.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Bogus Dave on Tuesday, July 30, 2019, 11:26:02
Unless you’re training to a competitive level, you only need water for anything less than a half marathon (and even then I’d argue gels etc are more placebo than anything else)


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Tuesday, July 30, 2019, 11:33:03
I don't find a benefit to creatine...

I do to gels, though.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, July 30, 2019, 11:38:53
I don't even take water with me on a run. Just make sure I drink plenty before and plenty after.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Ginginho on Tuesday, July 30, 2019, 11:44:10
I don't even take water with me on a run. Just make sure I drink plenty before and plenty after.

Nope, me neither. Don't think i'll bother with the gels either.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Saturday, September 21, 2019, 17:14:22
Anybody else doing the half tomorrow?


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Ginginho on Saturday, September 21, 2019, 17:37:08
Anybody else doing the half tomorrow?

Nope, did the Chippenham one a couple of weeks ago and met Saxondale.
Will do the Swindon one next year

Goood luck mate!


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, September 21, 2019, 17:40:04
Nope, did the Chippenham one a couple of weeks ago and met Saxondale.
Will do the Swindon one next year

Goood luck mate!

No you won't https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/17773431.year-39-s-half-marathon-will-swindon-39-s-last/

Good luck to the runners, Vaseline the nips well, looks like it's going to pour down


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Ginginho on Saturday, September 21, 2019, 17:44:54
Ohhh yes I will :)

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/17910774.swindon-half-marathon-saved-axe-race-organiser-steps-run-event/


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Batch on Saturday, September 21, 2019, 17:49:44
totally missed that. great news.

if they fix my knee I'll be in on that. just 4st to shed too


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Saturday, September 21, 2019, 18:19:37
Nope, did the Chippenham one a couple of weeks ago and met Saxondale.
Will do the Swindon one next year

Goood luck mate!

Was good to meet you Ginge.  Wont see you on the Swindon one.  2 more marathons this year and then Im probably hanging up my running shoes!


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: blinkpip on Saturday, September 21, 2019, 18:23:34
Anybody else doing the half tomorrow?

 :thumb:


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Saturday, September 21, 2019, 18:25:30
I was hoping to my injured my knee overexerting myself a few weeks ago. Delighted to hear it's on again next year though :D


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: ibelieveinmrreeves on Saturday, September 21, 2019, 18:38:36
Managed to complete (just over) 5k at park run today, my first in about 9 weeks. Pleased with that.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Nemo on Sunday, September 22, 2019, 16:44:49
Fucking rain started about 300m down Queens Drive and stopped more or less as I finished. My nipples feel like they've been grated.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Batch on Sunday, September 22, 2019, 17:14:35
Quote from: Nemo
Fucking rain started about 300m down Queens Drive and stopped more or less as I finished. My nipples feel like they've been grated.

Vaseline. copious amounts of Vaseline


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Sunday, September 22, 2019, 17:16:42
Vaseline. copious amounts of Vaseline

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/b07d55adbbecbe0adb0c6cdeae3d0805/tenor.gif)


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: blinkpip on Sunday, September 22, 2019, 18:35:25
Quite amazed how many locals supported this today in the pissing rain. Turned out really well, fair play.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: pauld on Monday, September 23, 2019, 09:07:01
Toyed with doing the Swindon Half this year but it was always going to clash with Dad Football Taxi commitments so decided not to book on it. Then the lad pulls up after training on Thursday with a strain so couldn't play anyway. Obviously too late to get a spot so I took myself out on the Ridgeway yesterday and did a trail half by myself. Enjoyed it hugely at the time but paying for it a bit this morning :)


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Monday, September 23, 2019, 11:32:27
Nice one PD, how long did it take you?


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: pauld on Monday, September 23, 2019, 12:14:14
Nice one PD, how long did it take you?
Fucking ages, I'm slooow :) Just under 2:30, which was OK, bearing in mind it's more complex terrain than roads and quite a bit hillier. I'm just making excuses, clearly :) Views from the Ridgeway in late afternoon sun were glorious, as ever.

Fair play to everyone who did the proper one, horrible weather yesterday morning, but hope you all enjoyed it anyway




Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: stfcjack on Monday, September 23, 2019, 12:50:45
First ever half marathon yesterday. Enjoyable yet torturous at the same time!

Completed it in 2:06. Only knew I was running a week ago so have had virtually no training at all, very chuffed! :)


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Monday, September 23, 2019, 13:02:18
Well done all.

As I mentioned earlier Ive got 2 more marathons this year, first of which is in Berlin on Saturday.  Which would be nice if I didn't feel totally bloody unfit and hopeless at the moment.  Regardless I am doing this silly 5 marathons in one year thing for Shelter.  I know some of you have kindly donated, but if anyone else want to help me try to raise a load of money to help people get a roof over their heads, please do.  I will be eternally grateful and buy you a pint in the legends lounge if you manage to corner me.

Just whack this in your browser and donate away.

https://uk.virginmoneygiving.com/graeme-nash-24hoursforshelter

Rather beautifully the Shelter running top is a lovely red and white Swindon affair.  I bought new trainers the other week.  I very nearly went for the Hoka shoes which were very comfortable.  But just far too yellow and blue.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, September 23, 2019, 13:20:43
Quote from: stfcjack
First ever half marathon yesterday. Enjoyable yet torturous at the same time!

Completed it in 2:06. Only knew I was running a week ago so have had virtually no training at all, very chuffed! :)
very good with no training!


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: stfcjack on Monday, September 23, 2019, 13:33:06
very good with no training!

Thank you mate!

Pipers Way can get fucked though


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: pauld on Monday, September 23, 2019, 14:03:53
First ever half marathon yesterday. Enjoyable yet torturous at the same time!

Completed it in 2:06. Only knew I was running a week ago so have had virtually no training at all, very chuffed! :)
So you should be, nice one!


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Monday, September 23, 2019, 17:25:42
Thanks to Rob J for the donation!


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Monday, September 23, 2019, 19:46:36
And thanks Paul D.



Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Monday, September 23, 2019, 22:00:00
I'll donate sometime soon mate.

Up here we have a pretty good system that helps homeless people get a hot meal and cuppa of an evening (or every evening if you choose to). Basically a homelessness charity sells "Meal Tickets" for £1 each. You can buy a bunch, so that when you see someone in need and start having a conversation with them, you can offer them a meal ticket (or several for them) to use at one of the evening/breakfast kitchens around the city. It's kind of a double whammy too because you are also making a donation of say £10 to the charity, which run workshops and projects, as well as ensuring 10 meals will go to people who really could do with it. Especially as we near the more colder evenings and mornings.

It also gives a reassurance to the person donating that it can only be used to benefit the person in need, in a more positive sense. Not everyone that is homeless of course, is a user of drugs/alcohol but there is a stigma attached, unfortunately. People are less likely to give actual cash and they also can be a bit "meh" about donating to a charity and where that money may go. This system works great as you know you are directly helping someone in need.

Shelter are awesome and you're doing an awesome thing. Temporarily putting your body through pain to help others. Word up. Top man  :thumb: 


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, September 24, 2019, 06:31:26
First ever half marathon yesterday. Enjoyable yet torturous at the same time!

Completed it in 2:06. Only knew I was running a week ago so have had virtually no training at all, very chuffed! :)

Thats an unbelievable time with no training. Well done!


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Tuesday, September 24, 2019, 20:03:33
And another thanks to Ron Dodgers.  God it's difficult not knowing anyones real names.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Wednesday, September 25, 2019, 21:29:02
Thankyou Horlock!


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, September 30, 2019, 14:04:42
had arthroscopy , looks like my running days are over. Hopefully though better on the pain department.

hey ho. Farah got lucky

have to say that every gwh member of staff I've dealt with have been amazing.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: pauld on Monday, September 30, 2019, 15:18:04
had arthroscopy , looks like my running days are over. Hopefully though better on the pain department.
:( That's really shit, gutted for you.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, September 30, 2019, 15:24:01
This should probably go in the 'annoying/can't understand thread'

But over the last year or so (since I stopped playing football after my achilles tendon op) I have started to go to the gym. Not a fancy one or anything like that, its not overly large or busy and suits my needs. I have mini OCD so have a routine that I like to keep which is a mixture of weights and cardio.

But what really grinds my gears are when people will sit at a piece of apparatus that I want to use, and piss about on their phones. I really want to ask them if they plan to use the equipment but don't want to cause any confrontation!


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, October 1, 2019, 15:36:33
This should probably go in the 'annoying/can't understand thread'

But over the last year or so (since I stopped playing football after my achilles tendon op) I have started to go to the gym. Not a fancy one or anything like that, its not overly large or busy and suits my needs. I have mini OCD so have a routine that I like to keep which is a mixture of weights and cardio.

But what really grinds my gears are when people will sit at a piece of apparatus that I want to use, and piss about on their phones. I really want to ask them if they plan to use the equipment but don't want to cause any confrontation!

I play with my phone between sets (I'm normally jotting down what I've just done, and what I'm gonna do next) and they might be doing the same.

If they're sat there and genuinely doing nothing just ask them politely if they're finished.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, October 1, 2019, 15:41:13
This should probably go in the 'annoying/can't understand thread'

But over the last year or so (since I stopped playing football after my achilles tendon op) I have started to go to the gym. Not a fancy one or anything like that, its not overly large or busy and suits my needs. I have mini OCD so have a routine that I like to keep which is a mixture of weights and cardio.

But what really grinds my gears are when people will sit at a piece of apparatus that I want to use, and piss about on their phones. I really want to ask them if they plan to use the equipment but don't want to cause any confrontation!

That happens all the time where I go. Some spend more time farting around with their headphones/phone/mp3 than on the equipment. Added to the annoying list are the people who don't wipe the equipment down.  :no:


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, October 1, 2019, 15:49:37
I play with my phone between sets (I'm normally jotting down what I've just done, and what I'm gonna do next) and they might be doing the same.

If they're sat there and genuinely doing nothing just ask them politely if they're finished.


Oh I know the difference between the folk that are checking their phones etc during sets, I do this briefly myself. I didn't time it, but there was one fella that must have been sat on the chest press machine for about 5 minutes without actually doing anything. (I had noticed as the machines I was using pretty much face where he was)

To be fair, my gym is never hugely busy so there generally hasn't been a time where I have been struggling for a piece of apparatus so its really a very minor 'gripe'.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Sippo on Tuesday, October 1, 2019, 17:42:59
If anyone fancies doing a tough mudder next year then shout. I am hopefully doing it in august at Badminton. Be good to raise some money for a charity.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, October 8, 2019, 13:09:45
I am no runner (Manchester 10k is frankly enough for me) but this made I larf....

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/72481162_10157493200980429_2334429177664503808_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&_nc_oc=AQmZM3vnyKqlWbZmyePnAEFg8G08pkY3ix16EthfpXyYgPd4JQBikACyf1wZKcg0_Crg65U_pyZRX_T20k8xsL4j&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr3-1.xx&oh=1385e5b81f666811ca553c8c6e66f24b&oe=5E27EA90)


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Red Frog on Monday, November 25, 2019, 12:42:52
Did the Paris 10k yesterday in under 50 mins, which I was happy with after a flaky year in terms of health and fitness. With the official t-shirt being red, I went out specially on Saturday to buy some white shorts. The new kit was obviously the key factor in my performance.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, November 26, 2019, 07:39:54
Great effort RF. I've been doing 10km every sunday for a good while now, am yet to get it under 50 minutes but getting closer.

I assume the Paris 10km is pretty flat?


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, November 26, 2019, 08:35:30
Well done, RF.  I'll bet it's a stunning course.

I've also been rubbish in recent months.  Earlier this year I was going really well, and completing a 10+ mile run most weeks (often running home from work in Bracknell, which I loved).  But work & life has got in the way recently.  Looking forward to picking it back up again next year.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, November 26, 2019, 08:43:27
Great effort RF. I've been doing 10km every sunday for a good while now, am yet to get it under 50 minutes but getting closer.

I assume the Paris 10km is pretty flat?

Yes, not many hills in the centre of town. Nice route round a few of the sights, and very clement weather. Keep it up, and switch the odd pint for a glass of wine!


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, November 26, 2019, 10:36:22
Yes, not many hills in the centre of town. Nice route round a few of the sights, and very clement weather. Keep it up, and switch the odd pint for a glass of wine!

Does it not go up to Montmartre??

I need to start running again, even just a 5k every now and then to keep cardio up whilst the weather is too shit to go out on my bike....


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, November 26, 2019, 10:57:06
Does it not go up to Montmartre??

I need to start running again, even just a 5k every now and then to keep cardio up whilst the weather is too shit to go out on my bike....

Not bloody likely - this one stays around Opéra, Grands Boulevards, les Halles. There are others that go up the hills, but I'm a bit of a PB-chasing junkie, so I don't see the point of adding unnecessary obstacles - and pain - to the process.

Looking for suggestions for appealing and accessible half-maras next year - anyone got any favourites?


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, November 26, 2019, 11:06:33
Nice one, RF, specially like the white shorts touch!


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, January 2, 2020, 17:02:26
Bastard!

https://www.facebook.com/wiggle/videos/760948191057655/


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Richie Wellen-Dowd on Sunday, April 5, 2020, 11:24:02
Do any of you chaps take tumeric for your joints? I've taken cod liver oil and glucosamine sulphate for the past year or so. Definitely helps but I'm wondering if tumeric or something else might be more beneficial.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: pauld on Monday, April 6, 2020, 09:08:09
Do any of you chaps take tumeric for your joints? I've taken cod liver oil and glucosamine sulphate for the past year or so. Definitely helps but I'm wondering if tumeric or something else might be more beneficial.
Don't take it myself, but it is supposed to be really useful as an anti-inflammatory to aid recovery so would certainly be beneficial to aid recovery from running or other impact exercise

https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/ajpregu.00858.2006?utm_source=TrendMD&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=American_Journal_of_Physiology_-_Regulatory%252C_Integrative_and_Comparative_Physiology_TrendMD_1&

https://jissn.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1550-2783-11-31


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Ginginho on Sunday, April 12, 2020, 06:24:10
Anyone suffered with Plantar Fasciitis and got any tips?

I'm going running most mornings, and it doesn't bother me too much as I have decent running trainers.

I've had it for probably 8-10 months now. I've got the insoles, doing the stretches, etc, but it's not going away.
I am tempted by a night splint to see if that helps, anyone ever used one or got any other advice?


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Ardiles on Sunday, April 12, 2020, 08:11:41
I broke my ankle (fibula) 5½ weeks ago.  Still swollen and a bit stiff/painful at times, but nothing like as much as it was and I've been walking on it normally for the last 10 days or so.  I'm desperate to get back out running again, but going to need to take it very slowly when I do.  Has anyone had a similar experience?  Advice welcome.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Valid Pint on Sunday, April 12, 2020, 08:34:58
Depends on age & luck. I broke my ankle ten years ago & it has never fully recovered.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Ardiles on Sunday, April 12, 2020, 08:57:32
That's a shame.  Sorry to hear it.

I'll keep my fingers crossed then.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Valid Pint on Sunday, April 12, 2020, 09:14:17
Thank you. It's a balance of getting the movement back but not going too fast. Physio helped me a lot in the early stages.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: STFC_Chris on Sunday, April 12, 2020, 13:02:42
Anyone suffered with Plantar Fasciitis and got any tips?

I'm going running most mornings, and it doesn't bother me too much as I have decent running trainers.

I've had it for probably 8-10 months now. I've got the insoles, doing the stretches, etc, but it's not going away.
I am tempted by a night splint to see if that helps, anyone ever used one or got any other advice?
Are you stretching your calf as well as the plantar fascia? Rolling your foot over a foam roller, or firm ball is a good - think golf ball, or perhaps a little bigger. Active rest, can you do something that doesn't irritate the are so much for a week or so - cycling? When lockdown is done, go and get a few sport massage treatments.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: 4D on Sunday, April 12, 2020, 13:08:23
I broke my ankle (fibula) 5½ weeks ago.  Still swollen and a bit stiff/painful at times, but nothing like as much as it was and I've been walking on it normally for the last 10 days or so.  I'm desperate to get back out running again, but going to need to take it very slowly when I do.  Has anyone had a similar experience?  Advice welcome.

I broke my left ankle 36 years ago


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Ardiles on Sunday, April 19, 2020, 08:09:11
Out for a gentle jog yesterday.  Just 2 miles, and very slow & steady.  Ankle grumbling a bit this morning, but nothing too bad.  It felt wonderful to be back out there.


Title: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Batch on Sunday, April 19, 2020, 09:50:11
very jealous. I'm pretty much confined to cycling, which as we know is the domain of MAMILs with a leg shaving fixation of which nobody is totally sure of the benefits (roadies)

I'll mountain bike instead, though the excitement of taking a curb at asked might be too much to handle


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Arriba on Sunday, April 19, 2020, 10:28:33
My blood pressure was on the high side and I was put on pills which made me feel like shit. Ditched them and read "how not to die" and books about the dash diet(specifically to lower blood pressure) and have reduced it that way significantly. Shifted weight in the process but am now upping the anti to drop it further so will be cycling. Any decent routes that are not too busy I'd welcome as the old trainline at the back of pmh/old town was chocka. I live in Eldene


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: pauld on Sunday, April 19, 2020, 11:20:26
My blood pressure was on the high side and I was put on pills which made me feel like shit. Ditched them and read "how not to die" and books about the dash diet(specifically to lower blood pressure) and have reduced it that way significantly. Shifted weight in the process but am now upping the anti to drop it further so will be cycling. Any decent routes that are not too busy I'd welcome as the old trainline at the back of pmh/old town was chocka. I live in Eldene
You can pick up Route 45 in Coate Water, follow it out the back over the motorway to Chiseldon/Hodson Rd and out from there to the Ridgeway. There's also the old train line from Chiseldon to Marlborough as well, but suspect again it's likely to be busy ish, depending on what time of day you go. Or cycle up to Liddington castle, pick up the Aldbourne Circular route which partly incorporates sections of the Ridgeway. I was running there this morning, there were very few people around and it's glorious


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Arriba on Sunday, April 19, 2020, 13:22:28
You can pick up Route 45 in Coate Water, follow it out the back over the motorway to Chiseldon/Hodson Rd and out from there to the Ridgeway. There's also the old train line from Chiseldon to Marlborough as well, but suspect again it's likely to be busy ish, depending on what time of day you go. Or cycle up to Liddington castle, pick up the Aldbourne Circular route which partly incorporates sections of the Ridgeway. I was running there this morning, there were very few people around and it's glorious

Sounds good. Cheers for that.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: sir windon on Sunday, April 19, 2020, 13:35:31
As a regular, non competitive alternate cyclist/ runner, I’ve never bothered using apps but have come across the Nike Run Club and Strava apps recently. Any recommendations/ preferences, folks?
Cheers.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: pauld on Sunday, April 19, 2020, 14:08:04
As a regular, non competitive alternate cyclist/ runner, I’ve never bothered using apps but have come across the Nike Run Club and Strava apps recently. Any recommendations/ preferences, folks?
Cheers.
Strava's pretty good for tracking. RunGo is really good for a new route that you're not sure of, it literally does turn-by-turn voice navigation every step of the way. Like a personal sat nav for a running/cycling route. And you can add your own via the website if the route you fancy doing isn't there already. Although it probably will be (and yes I know you could use a map but it's handy to have voice directions when you're running so you don't have to keep stopping and pulling a map out every few minutes)


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Ginginho on Monday, April 27, 2020, 08:42:48
Are you stretching your calf as well as the plantar fascia? Rolling your foot over a foam roller, or firm ball is a good - think golf ball, or perhaps a little bigger. Active rest, can you do something that doesn't irritate the are so much for a week or so - cycling? When lockdown is done, go and get a few sport massage treatments.

I've started using a rolling pin while i'm sat working and i've been doing calf stretches that my podiatrist showed me, and that's all helped and it's feeling much better, cheers.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, April 27, 2020, 09:54:19
Strava's pretty good for tracking. RunGo is really good for a new route that you're not sure of, it literally does turn-by-turn voice navigation every step of the way. Like a personal sat nav for a running/cycling route. And you can add your own via the website if the route you fancy doing isn't there already. Although it probably will be (and yes I know you could use a map but it's handy to have voice directions when you're running so you don't have to keep stopping and pulling a map out every few minutes)

And don't forget to put your run on Facebook afterwards.  :suicide:


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: 4D on Monday, April 27, 2020, 10:40:12
I've started using a rolling pin while i'm sat working and i've been doing calf stretches that my podiatrist showed me, and that's all helped and it's feeling much better, cheers.

You'll damage your keyboard


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: pauld on Monday, April 27, 2020, 11:00:24
And don't forget to put your run on Facebook afterwards.  :suicide:
Oh God please don't. It's like people who post pictures of their fucking lunch. No-one cares.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Sippo on Monday, April 27, 2020, 11:08:03
I did a bleep test in the garden yesterday. That was hard.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: LucienSanchez on Monday, May 4, 2020, 08:19:07
Following on from my depressing ramble the other week, I've thrown myself in to eating better, drinking less, and moving more. It's heartening, 3 weeks later to be 6kg down, and getting my min/km pace down to 6:33 from 7:49 (progress is progress, right?!). I'm enjoying getting out along the canal nice and early... never thought I'd say that.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Ginginho on Monday, May 4, 2020, 08:56:20
Fair play, that's great going


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: pauld on Monday, May 4, 2020, 09:11:32
Good to hear LS, exercise can be a really important boost to mental health.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, May 4, 2020, 10:13:31
very jealous. I'm pretty much confined to cycling, which as we know is the domain of MAMILs with a leg shaving fixation of which nobody is totally sure of the benefits (roadies)

The benefits of leg shaving are next to nothing unless you are a pro and getting a massage every evening or regularly skid across the tarmac on your arse.

Did 280 miles on the turbo trainer last month and still not lost any weight, need to drink less!


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: pauld on Monday, May 4, 2020, 10:27:34
The benefits of leg shaving are next to nothing unless you are a pro and getting a massage every evening or regularly skid across the tarmac on your arse.

Did 280 miles on the turbo trainer last month and still not lost any weight, need to drink less!
If you had really hairy legs you might lose some weight by shaving them ....


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Monday, May 4, 2020, 14:29:46
Oh God please don't. It's like people who post pictures of their fucking lunch. No-one cares.

Deep down. You really do care  :soapy tit wank:


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, May 4, 2020, 14:35:43
Oh God please don't. It's like people who post pictures of their fucking lunch. No-one cares.

You OK hun?

If you had really hairy legs you might lose some weight by shaving them ....

I imagine that would only apply to Richard Keys!

Its funny, many cyclists are well into saving weight on their bike and will spend a fortune on lighter parts, when you can just make a similar if not better weight saving by having a dump before you go out!


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: pauld on Monday, May 4, 2020, 14:55:34
Its funny, many cyclists are well into saving weight on their bike and will spend a fortune on lighter parts, when you can just make a similar if not better weight saving by having a dump before you go out!
:D "I just shit a brake cylinder"


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Ginginho on Monday, May 4, 2020, 15:23:45
Oh God please don't. It's like people who post pictures of their fucking lunch. No-one cares.

I know, don’t you just hate that? 😉


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, May 4, 2020, 15:27:00
:D "I just shit a brake cylinder"

You don't have brake cylinders on bikes?


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: pauld on Monday, May 4, 2020, 15:30:28
You don't have brake cylinders on bikes?
Pfft. Like I'd know that. Haven't you got legs to shave or something?


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, May 4, 2020, 15:36:23
Pfft. Like I'd know that. Haven't you got legs to shave or something?

Back, sack and crack?


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Ginginho on Wednesday, May 27, 2020, 06:47:43
I was aiming for 100 miles running this month, but haven't run for two days due to plantar fasciitis. I managed 83 miles in 25 days, so happy enough with that, and will have to dust off my bike I think.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Ardiles on Wednesday, May 27, 2020, 09:43:25
I was aiming for 100 miles running this month, but haven't run for two days due to plantar fasciitis. I managed 83 miles in 25 days, so happy enough with that, and will have to dust off my bike I think.

That's a great effort.  Well done!


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, May 27, 2020, 10:38:07
I was aiming for 100 miles running this month, but haven't run for two days due to plantar fasciitis. I managed 83 miles in 25 days, so happy enough with that, and will have to dust off my bike I think.
Decent!


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Wednesday, May 27, 2020, 11:12:02
I was aiming for 100 miles running this month, but haven't run for two days due to plantar fasciitis. I managed 83 miles in 25 days, so happy enough with that, and will have to dust off my bike I think.

Nice one.  I was aiming at possibly getting off my fat arse and going for a run, but then I got work and have failed to get of the aformentioned arse.  Next week.  It starts again next week.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Red Frog on Wednesday, May 27, 2020, 12:56:06
Nice one.  I was aiming at possibly getting off my fat arse and going for a run, but then I got work and have failed to get of the aformentioned arse.  Next week.  It starts again next week.


You've got music work again? Not tour management I imagine though. Anyway, whatever it is must be welcome right now.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Wednesday, May 27, 2020, 13:34:04
No music.  Running a 'site' supporting the NHS.  Will be empty by next week and then Ill start worrying.  Hopefully we'll have some bits of music back by November / December and I can start earning again.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Red Frog on Wednesday, May 27, 2020, 15:14:59
Well, good for you doing your bit while you can't do the day-job. And please let there be rock 'n' roll soon. (Everyone says that with the bands and football team I follow, social distancing has never been a problem blah blah blah...)


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: ibelieveinmrreeves on Tuesday, August 11, 2020, 08:41:33
Since the school holidays started I've been able to get out and run three times a week, adding an extra k each week. Started at 5, now up to 8k this week and plan to keep going as far as I can I guess. Three times a week might be a bit much when I go back to work but think two will definitely be doable.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, August 11, 2020, 08:49:35
Has anyone suffered from tendinitis on the inside of their foot? Any solutions?

I have had it for months, give myself a few weeks rest every now and again but it won’t shift, I’m putting more and more weight on as when I’m not running it sticks to me like glue.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, August 11, 2020, 11:23:41
Has anyone suffered from tendinitis on the inside of their foot? Any solutions?
Not specifically there, but have periodic (and ongoing struggles) with tendons in my calf and more recently plantar fascilitis which is a similar connective tissue issue (poetry!) apparently. Been advised the same as pretty much any connective tissue inury
1) Probably due to doing too much, so rest it for a few weeks. I know you said you are resting, are you trying to start back too soon or doing too much when you do? (I'm bloody terrible at taking this advice myself)
2) Stretches before and after running (obviously the right stretches for the area of concern, not much point doing glute stretches for inside of your foot)
3) Physio


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: blinkpip on Tuesday, August 11, 2020, 15:59:52
And ensure your'e wearing the correct shoes. Some have arch support which may help?


Title: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, August 11, 2020, 16:30:18
Quote
Has anyone suffered from tendinitis on the inside of their foot? Any solutions?

I have had it for months, give myself a few weeks rest every now and again but it won’t shift, I’m putting more and more weight on as when I’m not running it sticks to me like glue.
in the arch? sure it's not Plantar fasciitis ?

maybe a physio visit is needed for diagnosis. not cheap though.

ps. I put on 5 stone after I got perma injured and not running. I'm losing it now but my nagging advice is change your diet as that's a shot load easier than losing it after the fact :)


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, August 12, 2020, 15:14:30
Cheers chaps.
I don’t think it’s plantar fasciitis, the doctor (over the phone mind) said it sounds like tendonitis.

I do need to get some better running trainers, is it best to have them fitted by using a shop that has the treadmill etc?
I should also book myself in for some physio really.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, August 12, 2020, 15:44:06
I do need to get some better running trainers, is it best to have them fitted by using a shop that has the treadmill etc?
Yes. Run in Old Town will do gait analysis for you, they charge either 10 or 20 quid (sorry can't remember off hand) but with the charge waived if you buy a pair of shoes off them. They're not the cheapest for the actual shoes but if we don't support small independent running shops then we won't have any and you can't rely on getting fitting/gait analysis advice from SportsDirect (some of the staff there are really helpful, but by accident rather than company policy and certainly not thanks to any training from SD).

Disclaimer: I don't buy every pair of running shoes from small independents because I can't afford to but I try to get every 3rd or 4th pair (I get through quite a few)


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, August 12, 2020, 15:50:45
Yes. Run in Old Town will do gait analysis for you, they charge either 10 or 20 quid (sorry can't remember off hand) but with the charge waived if you buy a pair of shoes off them. They're not the cheapest for the actual shoes but if we don't support small independent running shops then we won't have any and you can't rely on getting fitting/gait analysis advice from SportsDirect (some of the staff there are really helpful, but by accident rather than company policy and certainly not thanks to any training from SD).

Disclaimer: I don't buy every pair of running shoes from small independents because I can't afford to but I try to get every 3rd or 4th pair (I get through quite a few)

Cheers Paul, how much are we talking roughly for the trainers?


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, August 12, 2020, 16:01:43
Cheers Paul, how much are we talking roughly for the trainers?
Last time I bought a pair in Run they were around a ton, IIRC. Like I say, a little steep, although tbf the actual pair I got weren't a whole lot cheaper online.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: blinkpip on Wednesday, August 12, 2020, 16:09:34
I use Prodirect running or Sportshoes (.com)
If you look on the sportshoes site you can do your own feet test to see what type of shoe you need. (flat foot or support etc) https://www.sportsshoes.com/support/running_articles/

But if local to Swindon centre then maybe use Runin in as mentioned and ask for some advice.

But you do get what you pay for. My price range from over the years been from £65-£180. All Depends on how serious you want to get and have a decent cushion sole.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, August 12, 2020, 16:17:10
I use Prodirect running or Sportshoes (.com)
If you look on the sportshoes site you can do your own feet test to see what type of shoe you need. (flat foot or support etc) https://www.sportsshoes.com/support/running_articles/

But if local to Swindon centre then maybe use Runin in as mentioned and ask for some advice.

But you do get what you pay for. My price range from over the years been from £65-£180. All Depends on how serious you want to get and have a decent cushion sole.
When I'm ordering online Sportsshoes.com are excellent, they do a good range of last year's stock so shoes that were 100 quid 9-12 months ago for a lot less. I've had a few 40 quid bargains from them that have been brilliant. startfitness.co.uk are also worth a look, they usually have some decent shoes in. But I knew what I was looking for because of the advice I got from Run (https://runswindon.co.uk/)


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, August 13, 2020, 07:29:27
Cheers Paul, how much are we talking roughly for the trainers?

I paid £120 for a pair of Brooks Ghosts form Run - they are like wearing slippers they are so comfy.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: pauld on Thursday, August 13, 2020, 07:48:11
Oh and while we're all getting carried away talking about shoes (there's a surprise on a running thread!), you probably should still see the physio first Quagmire. Shoes can help alleviate the problem, and possibly prevent it from reoccurring but they won't fix it by themselves


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Saxondale on Thursday, August 13, 2020, 19:01:30
I paid £120 for a pair of Brooks Ghosts form Run - they are like wearing slippers they are so comfy.

+1 fro the Brookes Ghost.  Excellent shoe which Ive used since first getting a proper pair.  Did once have the Nike pegasus which felt very similar but was a little more flimsy around the ankle.  And I ran a bad time in Paris in them so blamed the shoe (obviously nothing to do with the runner) and went back to the Ghost.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, August 13, 2020, 19:04:01
Oh and while we're all getting carried away talking about shoes (there's a surprise on a running thread!), you probably should still see the physio first Quagmire. Shoes can help alleviate the problem, and possibly prevent it from reoccurring but they won't fix it by themselves

Yeah, I have thought this mate - I’m going to try get in with a physio next week, and then I will get over to the place you suggested and get some decent trainers.
Thanks for your help chaps, much appreciated.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Friday, August 14, 2020, 01:39:29
Hope you get sorted Quaggy.

Not running but hiking/walking. I find that regardless of distance, I can keep my pace fairly sustained. This doesn't seem to matter how much gear/pack weight I have or a high or low total ascent/cumulative gain either. I also know that I can push my pace much further if I wanted to. I don't believe I've reached my true optimum average pace (usual walking/hiking avg is c3.75-4.25mph but I've achieved 4.6mph avg previously), yet one thing I can't seem to do is regulate that pace downwards too much. Which I know is important for the longer distances I am prepared to go.

I hadn't done a longer hike for about a month but I did about 11miles in 3hrs (3.66mph). It was almost as if I had no break at all with it only a smidge below my lower avg.

What can I do (because I feel runners/joggers will know how more so) to bring my pace down, when say doing a 26 or 50 mile hike? And whilst "just slow down" might seem the obvious answer, I seem incapable of slowing my pace below say 3.5mph once I get into my stride. My "best avg" has been 4.6mph so maybe I should concentrate on getting my avg back to there and then I could use that 1mph as my personal regulator for managing stamina and technically "slowing down"?

I genuinely don't know, so any ideas would be great.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Bogus Dave on Friday, August 14, 2020, 06:02:35
Get a watch that tells you how fast you’re going and check it regularly


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Friday, August 14, 2020, 06:40:36
Yeah GPS watch and set the display to total average. I use a years old tomtom that was gifted to me by a friend. Literally any running/sports watch will do.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Richie Wellen-Dowd on Friday, August 14, 2020, 06:41:48
Get a short girlfriend who will give timely reminders such as, "my legs aren't as long as yours, can you bloody slow down?"


Title: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Batch on Friday, August 14, 2020, 07:02:33
Quote
Yeah GPS watch and set the display to total average. I use a years old tomtom that was gifted to me by a friend. Literally any running/sports watch will do.
why total average?

well it is useful, horses for courses, etc.

but I found per mile splits/pace more useful especially in longer runs. so easy to set off too fast at the beginning - especially in a race/event


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Friday, August 14, 2020, 07:14:51
Splits means working stuff out for yourself though. I'm running to clear my mind, not do maths :D


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Batch on Friday, August 14, 2020, 07:31:07
fair enough.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: BambooToTheFuture on Friday, August 14, 2020, 16:35:12
Get a short girlfriend who will give timely reminders such as, "my legs aren't as long as yours, can you bloody slow down?"

Thanks BD, Jayo & Batch. I did used to have a watch but never took to it  (used to use it playing golf more than anything). Will maybe have a look at a cheap but efficient fitness band/watch and try and see if I can regulate from there. I do think it might just be me being a strict fucker with myself and conditioning so I can change it up/down.

RW-D, I used to have one of those but I clearly didn't listen because she got rid of me. It's probably an effective method though except you end up with ear ache no doubt  :pint:


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, November 13, 2020, 09:30:22
Since the gyms reopened at the end of July, I've been trying to lose some weight so I can be eligible for some non-critical treatments on the NHS. Lost 17kg since then and feel awesome, and hit my target weight today.

Got a phone call from my consultant last week though, the eligibility has changed and I've got to keep going. In the words of Stevie G; "we go again".


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Friday, November 13, 2020, 09:39:53
Since the gyms reopened at the end of July, I've been trying to lose some weight so I can be eligible for some non-critical treatments on the NHS. Lost 17kg since then and feel awesome, and hit my target weight today.

Got a phone call from my consultant last week though, the eligibility has changed and I've got to keep going. In the words of Stevie G; "we go again".

Wow fantastic achievement and one many can take inspiration from.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Red Frog on Friday, November 13, 2020, 09:45:23
Since the gyms reopened at the end of July, I've been trying to lose some weight so I can be eligible for some non-critical treatments on the NHS. Lost 17kg since then and feel awesome, and hit my target weight today.

Got a phone call from my consultant last week though, the eligibility has changed and I've got to keep going. In the words of Stevie G; "we go again".

That's an epic piece of work. Puts to shame my failing efforts to shed 2kg since the summer, despite running 2 or 3 times a week. Think my metabolism is slowing down faster than I can work off the calories.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Batch on Friday, November 13, 2020, 09:45:52
Quote from: Panda Paws
Since the gyms reopened at the end of July, I've been trying to lose some weight so I can be eligible for some non-critical treatments on the NHS. Lost 17kg since then and feel awesome, and hit my target weight today.

Got a phone call from my consultant last week though, the eligibility has changed and I've got to keep going. In the words of Stevie G; "we go again".


that's a brilliant achievement. nice one


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: pauld on Friday, November 13, 2020, 10:08:34
Since the gyms reopened at the end of July, I've been trying to lose some weight so I can be eligible for some non-critical treatments on the NHS. Lost 17kg since then and feel awesome, and hit my target weight today.

Got a phone call from my consultant last week though, the eligibility has changed and I've got to keep going. In the words of Stevie G; "we go again".
17kg! 'kin 'ell did you cut off a leg?


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, November 13, 2020, 10:36:32
I've been doing 100+ miles a week on the turbo trainer and have lost sweet fanny adams, I need to drink less wine!


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, November 13, 2020, 10:41:51
I've given up on the exercise bike. I hate it, it's so fucking boring. Even just the thought of using it bores me and drains my enthusiasm for life. I've also taken a 'fuck it' attitude to eating crisps 'n' shit and am starting to pile on the pounds. I think it's partly down to comfort eating (I've had a really shitty couple of months).

I'm planning on getting a VR kit early next year with some 'fun' exercise games, which I hope will kick-start me into making some level of effort again. In the meantime - I am rather partial to cheese and chives pringles.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Friday, November 13, 2020, 10:59:14
I often don't like the thought of getting on the turbo-trainer, but enjoy it when I do. I can't abide the thought of a structured session or training plan though. For me, winter will be about going on the bike when its nice 1/2 per week and then the turbotrainer once a week or when wet. Hopefully, I'll be able to do a couple of spin classes if and when gyms reopen

I find Zwift pretty good for motivation by trying different courses and either taking part in races (where I have no chance of keeping up with the top people in my category) or doing group ride 'Meet ups'.

Did one on Wednesday where there we a dozen of us from our cycling club (all of different standards) riding through France together. The software keeps you all grouped together, and the only thing you have to do is pedal hard! I was listening to Motorhead while riding, but some of the others chat on Discord - I can't do that, because I'm puffing and panting (with the odd bit of Tourette's thrown in) all the time! All of the courses have little sprint sections, which get me a bit competitive against some of the better cyclists in the club - They all beat me, but it pushes my heart rate up and I'm usually a good lead out man for them!


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, November 13, 2020, 11:01:12
17kg! 'kin 'ell did you cut off a leg?

Ha, it feels like that sometimes with some of the aches and pains! I was coming from a high starting point (132kg) so had a lot to lose. Only another 26kg to go, ideally.

That's an epic piece of work. Puts to shame my failing efforts to shed 2kg since the summer, despite running 2 or 3 times a week. Think my metabolism is slowing down faster than I can work off the calories.

Interesting you mention metabolism. I've done quite a lot of reading on this, and also talked with my PT about it too. Is starvation mode a thing? Or are the laws of thermodynamics and energy always true?

My informed opinion (i.e. parroting my PT) is that so long as you burn more and consume less, you'll always lose weight but people have no clue about the amount of energy they're consuming. I certainly didn't.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: magicroundabout on Friday, November 13, 2020, 11:13:21
I've given up on the exercise bike. I hate it, it's so fucking boring. Even just the thought of using it bores me and drains my enthusiasm for life. I've also taken a 'fuck it' attitude to eating crisps 'n' shit and am starting to pile on the pounds. I think it's partly down to comfort eating (I've had a really shitty couple of months).

I'm planning on getting a VR kit early next year with some 'fun' exercise games, which I hope will kick-start me into making some level of effort again. In the meantime - I am rather partial to cheese and chives pringles.

I know it's expensive but have you looked a Peloton bike. All interactive with classes you can do to suit you. Also adds a competitive edge to build your fitness .


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: tans on Friday, November 13, 2020, 12:34:38
I know it's expensive but have you looked a Peloton bike. All interactive with classes you can do to suit you. Also adds a competitive edge to build your fitness .

Fucking hell Martin, you flash bastard!


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: magicroundabout on Friday, November 13, 2020, 12:48:37
Fucking hell Martin, you flash bastard!

I'm not talking from experience. I don't maintain my figure with a peloton. More like a Mr Kebab


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Samdy Gray on Friday, November 13, 2020, 13:02:10
From prior experience, losing 25kg is the easy bit. Keeping it off is bloody challenging.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: tans on Friday, November 13, 2020, 13:06:46
I'm not talking from experience. I don't maintain my figure with a peloton. More like a Mr Kebab

Fat bastard


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: JBZ on Friday, November 13, 2020, 13:32:07
I am not on commission but I would again recommend beachbody home workouts. I started with insanity and few years ago.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, November 13, 2020, 14:17:19
I often don't like the thought of getting on the turbo-trainer, but enjoy it when I do. I can't abide the thought of a structured session or training plan though. For me, winter will be about going on the bike when its nice 1/2 per week and then the turbotrainer once a week or when wet. Hopefully, I'll be able to do a couple of spin classes if and when gyms reopen

I find Zwift pretty good for motivation by trying different courses and either taking part in races (where I have no chance of keeping up with the top people in my category) or doing group ride 'Meet ups'.

Did one on Wednesday where there we a dozen of us from our cycling club (all of different standards) riding through France together. The software keeps you all grouped together, and the only thing you have to do is pedal hard! I was listening to Motorhead while riding, but some of the others chat on Discord - I can't do that, because I'm puffing and panting (with the odd bit of Tourette's thrown in) all the time! All of the courses have little sprint sections, which get me a bit competitive against some of the better cyclists in the club - They all beat me, but it pushes my heart rate up and I'm usually a good lead out man for them!

I have been doing it all on Zwift, either supported by podcasts, music or watching the GCN channel!

I do it occasionally with a couple of mates and like being outside it makes it easier as it provides some motivation, plus we chat via WhatsApp whilst we are doing it so also gives a link to the outside world and my covid updates.

Have also done a fair few races, got a second and a third in my cat, but if I go up a cat as I may have to do I am going to be shite, have actually been doing a structured plan for 6 weeks (two to go) and dropped my mate on a climb last week so must be doing some good, albeit I just cannot shift weight as I eat crap ans drink too much!


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, January 22, 2021, 09:16:05
I've been playing the oculus quest 2 a lot - particularly beat saber. I'm loving it, but I've hit a snag.

Me fookin' back.

After a while my lower back is killing me. I'm sure it's down to posture and I do try to keep my back straight, but I still end up bending slightly instinctively and it's not long before my lower back feels as though it's on fire. It's enough to cut my sessions short or prevent me from playing altogether.

Any recommendations?

I was wondering if a weight lifting belt would help with my posture? Or maybe it's something that will just go away as I get used to it? Something else?


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, January 22, 2021, 09:37:29
I'm guessing you are standing when on the VR?
I've read a lot of lower back pain is caused by hips/arse muscles. Perhaps best to assess the root of the pain first.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, January 22, 2021, 10:19:21
I've been playing the oculus quest 2 a lot - particularly beat saber. I'm loving it, but I've hit a snag.

Me fookin' back.

After a while my lower back is killing me. I'm sure it's down to posture and I do try to keep my back straight, but I still end up bending slightly instinctively and it's not long before my lower back feels as though it's on fire. It's enough to cut my sessions short or prevent me from playing altogether.

Any recommendations?

I was wondering if a weight lifting belt would help with my posture? Or maybe it's something that will just go away as I get used to it? Something else?

Lack of Core strength is your (and my) problem. If you slouch when standing as your core doesn't hold you together it fucks your back. I have been meaning to sort it for sodding years, just never get round to it!


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, January 22, 2021, 10:26:41
Plank  ;)


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, January 22, 2021, 11:50:26
Lack of Core strength is your (and my) problem. If you slouch when standing as your core doesn't hold you together it fucks your back. I have been meaning to sort it for sodding years, just never get round to it!

So, will the cause (playing beat saber) fix it? Is it the same thing as when other muscles ache when you're not used to exercising them?


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, January 22, 2021, 12:23:07
So, will the cause (playing beat saber) fix it? Is it the same thing as when other muscles ache when you're not used to exercising them?

I dunno TBH, I have been to the docs multiple times over the years with lower back pain and am always told the underlying problem is my posture and lack of core strength (as I am 6'4 I tend to slouch plus I have a bit of a gut which means my back is permanently twisted as I stand like Sid the Sexist), its the same when I am on my bike, always been told to make sure I tense my stomach muscles but I tend to forget and then get a bad back after a few hours. I need to get into the hanit of working on core strength, just never get round to it.

Plank  ;)

I am and I can't!


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: 4D on Friday, January 22, 2021, 12:51:36
I do a minute each day


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Samdy Gray on Friday, January 22, 2021, 14:08:28
If you've gone from predominantly sitting your arse all day to now spending hours on end standing of course you'll get back pain.

I had the same when I got my standing desk. You just need to gradually increase the time standing. I tend to use the standing desk in 45 minute chunks.

Core strengthening will help. I like kettlebell swings and deadlifts. Haven't had any back problems since I started training with kettlebells regularly again.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, March 2, 2021, 11:27:31
After completing couch to 5k recently I've kinda hit the wall. I've got a niggly pain above my left hip which aches quite badly during/after running and is always a bit tender(feels muscular)and my right hip itself really aches when running. Last couple of runs I've had to stop during or cut short. Think I might have to find something else and definitely won't be coming out of football retirement ( the kid in me foolishly thought I could still do a job for a team)
What's my options, cycling I guess or swimming. Tried a Joe Wicks workout this morning so will do some more of those for sure. I want to maintain a healthy lifestyle


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, March 2, 2021, 11:34:41
Sounds like a hip flexor issue. I get it too. Mostly from sitting down all day.

Stretching should help. Joe Wicks style workouts with tons of jumping etc may not.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, March 2, 2021, 11:35:07
You could get someone to massage the areas that are painful, also do some stretching. When I dislocated my shoulder I struggled to raise my arm above horizontal, a quick massage of the tissue between collar bone and shoulder joint and I could lift my arm another 20 degrees.
I suffer muscular pain between my lower back and hip joint, a good bit of stretching does help.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, March 2, 2021, 12:06:12
After completing couch to 5k recently I've kinda hit the wall. I've got a niggly pain above my left hip which aches quite badly during/after running and is always a bit tender(feels muscular)and my right hip itself really aches when running. Last couple of runs I've had to stop during or cut short. Think I might have to find something else and definitely won't be coming out of football retirement ( the kid in me foolishly thought I could still do a job for a team)
What's my options, cycling I guess or swimming. Tried a Joe Wicks workout this morning so will do some more of those for sure. I want to maintain a healthy lifestyle
As everyone else has said, stretching to build flexibility is going to be the key here. Rest for a week or so to give it chance to recover, then make sure you're doing proper stretches in your warm-up before you run. And I think PP is right about the hip flexor too, so look for hip flexor warmup stretches on YouTube etc and incorporate those into your warm-up. I'm assuming you are doing a warm-up, if not that's probably the answer right there.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, March 2, 2021, 12:20:06
You'll also get to enjoy the feeling of the first deep lunge stretch into a troublesome hip flexor which, quite frankly, is the best feeling the world.



Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, March 2, 2021, 12:27:27
Agree. Hip flexor stretches feel amazing.

In terms of other forms of exercise, my mobility has never been better since regularly exercising with kettlebells.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, March 2, 2021, 12:31:45
Agree. Hip flexor stretches feel amazing.

In terms of other forms of exercise, my mobility has never been better since regularly exercising with kettlebells.

I'm on a mega weight loss journey (which sounds wanky but i couldn't think of another way to describe it) and my PT focuses almost entirely on strength work. Very little cardio in my sessions, and yet it works, so long as I move a lot elsewhere.

The strength work has now enabled me to run without pain for the first time in 5 years. Doing 7/8k without batting an eyelid and without my knee crippling me for days after.

I never realised how important the muscles around our joints are for everything when it comes to movement.

TL;DR - YouTube some strength exercises that over time will help with your dodgy hip.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, March 2, 2021, 13:45:15
Thanks for the advice all. Lots for me to look at there. I have walked before running( how couch to 5k works) but think the exercises mentioned may help. For now I'll lay off the running for a bit to try to shift this aching.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: tans on Tuesday, March 2, 2021, 14:45:16
Just bought a bike, first time ridden for about 20 years.

Only done two rides of short distances, and the old gooch area is a bit sore even with padded shorts :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Anything i can do to stop this or will it get used to it?


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, March 2, 2021, 14:46:15
If it's anything like spinning, you'll get used to it!


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, March 2, 2021, 14:57:22
I'm on a mega weight loss journey (which sounds wanky but i couldn't think of another way to describe it) and my PT focuses almost entirely on strength work. Very little cardio in my sessions, and yet it works, so long as I move a lot elsewhere.

The strength work has now enabled me to run without pain for the first time in 5 years. Doing 7/8k without batting an eyelid and without my knee crippling me for days after.

I never realised how important the muscles around our joints are for everything when it comes to movement.

TL;DR - YouTube some strength exercises that over time will help with your dodgy hip.
To add to this: core, core, core. Running without a strong and stable core is basically the equivalent of trying to cycle on a shaky old cycle that's falling to bits on a bumpy road without suspension, you're just going to fuck your frame up which is why you get loads of hip/knee/ankle/etc injuries.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, March 2, 2021, 15:01:14
Get yourself an exercise band and youtube a pallof press.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Wednesday, March 3, 2021, 06:28:19
Just bought a bike, first time ridden for about 20 years.

Only done two rides of short distances, and the old gooch area is a bit sore even with padded shorts :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Anything i can do to stop this or will it get used to it?
Depends on the shorts, whether you wear anything under them or not, the saddle, the saddle angle and the size of your 'sit bones'. Could also just be you will get used to it.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, March 3, 2021, 09:31:57
Depends on the shorts, whether you wear anything under them or not, the saddle, the saddle angle and the size of your 'sit bones'. Could also just be you will get used to it.

He'll break it in eventually!

Funny you mention seat angle, the bike I use on my turbo I have used for years with no saddle problems (although would get uncomfortable after probably 80+ miles so it was so rare it wasn't a problem). However in last month or so been getting really bad pain in my backside (sort of Coccyx area) from it, was faffing in garage the other day and put a spirit level on it and it had tilted forward, barely conceivable by the naked eye but obvious with a level, adjusted it yesterday (what a sodding faff that was) so hopefully will be better now. 


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Crackity Jones on Wednesday, March 3, 2021, 13:04:06
Decided I needed to cut down on the booze and get off my fat arse this year. I am 5 weeks in to one of them couch to 5k things. I have got to the stage where I look forward to going out for a run. I know its a small goal but today I  ran for 15 minutes non stop - unachievable 5 weeks ago that wouldn't have happened. Although I always have a pain in that bit above the ankle at the back of the leg. The less said about cutting down on the booze  the better though


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, March 3, 2021, 15:48:24
Decided I needed to cut down on the booze and get off my fat arse this year. I am 5 weeks in to one of them couch to 5k things. I have got to the stage where I look forward to going out for a run. I know its a small goal but today I  ran for 15 minutes non stop - unachievable 5 weeks ago that wouldn't have happened. Although I always have a pain in that bit above the ankle at the back of the leg.
Do some of these before you run, will help warm up the calf/achilles

https://www.healthline.com/health/achilles-tendon-stretch


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Crackity Jones on Wednesday, March 3, 2021, 16:57:46
Thanks PaulD. Due to go on my next run Friday.  I will try those beforehand


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, March 3, 2021, 17:53:46
Decided I needed to cut down on the booze and get off my fat arse this year. I am 5 weeks in to one of them couch to 5k things. I have got to the stage where I look forward to going out for a run. I know its a small goal but today I  ran for 15 minutes non stop - unachievable 5 weeks ago that wouldn't have happened. Although I always have a pain in that bit above the ankle at the back of the leg. The less said about cutting down on the booze  the better though


Nice one. It's a great programme and it worked for me. The app is good I thought. Michael Johnson was my pick for coach. You'll feel amazing when you smash 30mins.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Ardiles on Wednesday, March 3, 2021, 21:51:36
Decided I needed to cut down on the booze and get off my fat arse this year. I am 5 weeks in to one of them couch to 5k things. I have got to the stage where I look forward to going out for a run. I know its a small goal but today I  ran for 15 minutes non stop - unachievable 5 weeks ago that wouldn't have happened. Although I always have a pain in that bit above the ankle at the back of the leg. The less said about cutting down on the booze  the better though

That has to be the real aim.  Get yourself to 5k, and you've achieved something.  Get yourself to 5k at the same time as enjoying it, and you'll have achieved a whole lot more.  For a start, you'll be more likely to stick with it.  Great effort!


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: tans on Friday, March 5, 2021, 22:18:46
So had my bike for a week now. Currently only doing 5 miles a time to get used to the bike as not ridden for over 20 years. Whats the best way to build up distance and stamina? Where i live is really hilly, so want to do a 10 mile ride in an area thats flat to build a bit of distance first off


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Bogus Dave on Saturday, March 6, 2021, 07:36:29
Running, so a different discipline I know, but I’d always considered a mile running uphill to be equivalent to a mile and a half flat - I assume the same basic logic applies on a bike


Title: Re: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Samdy Gray on Saturday, March 6, 2021, 10:56:26
So had my bike for a week now. Currently only doing 5 miles a time to get used to the bike as not ridden for over 20 years. Whats the best way to build up distance and stamina? Where i live is really hilly, so want to do a 10 mile ride in an area thats flat to build a bit of distance first off
Ride more. That's it really.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Crackity Jones on Friday, March 19, 2021, 13:14:18
Update on my couch to 5k. 8 weeks in now and running 25 minutes non-stop now. Unimaginable at the start.  I think we have a couple of weeks left before the virtual 5k. I am starting to turn my thoughts to how I maintain this once the course has finished


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Batch on Friday, March 19, 2021, 13:53:23
Quote from: tans
So had my bike for a week now. Currently only doing 5 miles a time to get used to the bike as not ridden for over 20 years. Whats the best way to build up distance and stamina? Where i live is really hilly, so want to do a 10 mile ride in an area thats flat to build a bit of distance first off

if you are not
- sneaking off to the work toilet to put chamois cream up your crack before a ride
- wearing stupid lycra top in the pattern of a skeleton, or DJ or penguin or something
- moaning about car drivers
- moaning about someone you vaguely know nicking your strava KOM even though there is no way they could do that speed
- refer to your cycle buddies as 'the peleton'

then you aren't yet a road cyclist, padwan


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Arriba on Friday, March 19, 2021, 14:25:31
Update on my couch to 5k. 8 weeks in now and running 25 minutes non-stop now. Unimaginable at the start.  I think we have a couple of weeks left before the virtual 5k. I am starting to turn my thoughts to how I maintain this once the course has finished

I just run for 30 mins each time I run now as much as possible. I have no desire to go any further. My problem is I keep getting injured. Gone from hip ache to pinging something behind my knee when bending down the other day. Sign up for parkrun which will kick off again in June. They're 5k runs so you'll be able to keep it up.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Hunk on Friday, March 19, 2021, 15:36:51
Did my first couch to 5k yesterday, then some more running as I was with people who were not doing it, which made me feel a bit like I was letting the wonderful Michael Johnson down who is my chosen coach, but ah well. Really enjoyed it. Did 4.5 miles all told which was a lot better than I expected to be able to do


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, March 19, 2021, 15:40:03
If you want to break up the monotony of just doing 5k endlessly, it was recommended to me to break it up in the following per week.

Time trial - 5x 1k runs. Reduce your rest in between each 1k week on week.
5k for pace
Run for time - don't worry about distance, just increase your "long" run by a minute each week.

Also to help with niggles, warm up. I follow this every time now. https://youtu.be/87v65Uij-4s


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Crackity Jones on Friday, March 19, 2021, 17:33:02
Nice one Hunk. Good job on completing.  I am definitely  wanting to carry on running once this course is finished. 30 minute sessions work well as I can shoehorn into my working day somehow. I'm definitely interested in park run when that starts back up. There seem to be a few near me.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Hunk on Friday, March 19, 2021, 17:43:11
Nice one Hunk. Good job on completing.  I am definitely  wanting to carry on running once this course is finished. 30 minute sessions work well as I can shoehorn into my working day somehow. I'm definitely interested in park run when that starts back up. There seem to be a few near me.

Thanks! And good job on yours too, 8 weeks in and still going is a massive achievement


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Hunk on Saturday, March 20, 2021, 12:14:43
Just finished my second leg of couch to 5k around Coate, and ran passed a group of what I’d estimate to be 15 or so lads, pissed up with beers out like we aren’t in the midst of a pandemic. Utter scum, each and every one of them. Police sniffing round, fingers crossed they get dealt with.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: JoeMezz on Saturday, March 20, 2021, 12:18:42
I’m really struggling with shin splints recently when running on any surface that isn’t grass. When I play football it’s absolutely fine unless on 4G / astroturf and running on the road is a killer. I’ve tried resting them but they always end up coming back. Also have shoes designed for people who pronate and it’s still hurting (right shin only). Any tips for people who have had shin splints and come through it?


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: LucienSanchez on Saturday, March 20, 2021, 12:53:08
I got in to running through couch to 5k, and enjoyed it immensely until a bout of depression left me with no desire to leave the house. I then joined a football club for father's of dead babies (as a support mechanism) and loved it despite my advancing years and not playing 11 a side since Worldnet some 10-15 years ago; even got me back out doing the odd 5k. However, Achilles tendonitis (and the most recent lockdown) put a stop to that. I thought 3 months off would help heal, but I just cannot stop my Achilles from feeling completely bruised. I've tried stretching, strapping, insoles, massage, anti-inflammatories... completely at a loss now. Luckily managing to keep the lost weight off (just) through strict calorie counting and regular short walks, but it's frustrating, especially with training starting up again on 1st April.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Hunk on Saturday, March 20, 2021, 14:18:55
I got in to running through couch to 5k, and enjoyed it immensely until a bout of depression left me with no desire to leave the house. I then joined a football club for father's of dead babies (as a support mechanism) and loved it despite my advancing years and not playing 11 a side since Worldnet some 10-15 years ago; even got me back out doing the odd 5k. However, Achilles tendonitis (and the most recent lockdown) put a stop to that. I thought 3 months off would help heal, but I just cannot stop my Achilles from feeling completely bruised. I've tried stretching, strapping, insoles, massage, anti-inflammatories... completely at a loss now. Luckily managing to keep the lost weight off (just) through strict calorie counting and regular short walks, but it's frustrating, especially with training starting up again on 1st April.

Firstly, very sorry to hear the rough time you’ve had. Doesn’t matter that I don’t know you, I really hope you are in or manage to get to a better place.

As for the achilles, if it’s affecting you day to day, whether running or not, would a trip to the GP and potential surgery be worthwhile? Has that crossed your mind?


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 20, 2021, 09:31:21
My sister is currently running day 2 of her 10 marathons in 10 consecutive days.

Not bad for a 58 year old who only took up running full marathons 5 years ago and at the end of this run of 10 she will have completed 100 marathons in total. Last year she did 7 in 7 so this is the next step up.

Fair play big sis, its not for me though!


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, May 20, 2021, 09:36:49
top effort Venks! Go on sir, you know you can do it!! ;)


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, May 20, 2021, 09:45:30
top effort Venks! Go on sir, you know you can do it!! ;)
Mate I couldnt even do it in a wheelchair!


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: theakston2k on Thursday, May 20, 2021, 11:01:26
I tore my hamstring last weekend after playing 5 football matches in 2 weeks, never done it before but only grade 2 so should be jogging again in a couple of weeks. Lockdowns definitely haven't been good for general health and fitness that's for sure and this is why I closing gyms was massively counterproductive IMO especially mid winter when it's difficult to do anything outside.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Batch on Thursday, May 20, 2021, 11:31:12
don't rush back is my advice. It's so tempting when it nearly feels right.

and destroying when it goes again because it wasn't


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Ginginho on Friday, May 21, 2021, 06:34:09
My sister is currently running day 2 of her 10 marathons in 10 consecutive days.

Not bad for a 58 year old who only took up running full marathons 5 years ago and at the end of this run of 10 she will have completed 100 marathons in total. Last year she did 7 in 7 so this is the next step up.

Fair play big sis, its not for me though!

That's a great effort. I assume that's Caroline then?


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, May 21, 2021, 08:58:03
That's a great effort. I assume that's Caroline then?
Yes mate thats the old girl :)


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, October 20, 2021, 13:44:43
16st 11lbs. Bollocks, that's the heaviest I've been in the last 20 years (my best was 17st 5lbs). Started to cut back on things now. Anyone got any recommendations for a quick start at shedding the pounds? I know gradual is best but I'd like an encouraging start  :)
The plan is to lose 40lbs and I am pumping iron again.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Wednesday, October 20, 2021, 17:09:49
16st 11lbs. Bollocks, that's the heaviest I've been in the last 20 years (my best was 17st 5lbs). Started to cut back on things now. Anyone got any recommendations for a quick start at shedding the pounds? I know gradual is best but I'd like an encouraging start  :)
The plan is to lose 40lbs and I am pumping iron again.
Drink.........................water!


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Wednesday, October 20, 2021, 18:25:25
16st 11lbs. Bollocks, that's the heaviest I've been in the last 20 years (my best was 17st 5lbs). Started to cut back on things now. Anyone got any recommendations for a quick start at shedding the pounds? I know gradual is best but I'd like an encouraging start  :)
The plan is to lose 40lbs and I am pumping iron again.

Cycle for 1-1 1/2 hours twice a week or more plus cut out fat & high calorie foods


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, November 2, 2022, 11:06:24
Anyone had a problem with a heart arrhythmia?


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Samdy Gray on Wednesday, November 2, 2022, 17:11:10
I recently discovered I have bradycardia. It doesn't really cause any issues apart from the occasional light headedness if I stand too quickly. I just see it as a sign of good fitness, but had to turn off the low heart rate warning on my Garmin which kept going off during the night!


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, November 2, 2022, 17:16:08
Looks like I have trachycardia which is too fast. Going to cardiologist tomorrow to have a Holter Monitor fitted for 48 hours.

It’s all come on rather quickly. The treatments don’t sound brilliant, tbh. One decent option whereby popping a pill would do. The others are a bit invasive.



Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Wednesday, November 2, 2022, 17:24:25
Are Beta blockers no good for this condition.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, November 2, 2022, 17:41:39
On them for high blood pressure!


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Wednesday, November 2, 2022, 17:44:59
Try not to Google for information until you've been seen by a specialist to stop unnecessary worrying.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: normy on Thursday, November 3, 2022, 09:54:52
I have a pacemaker fitted in 2013 to deal with a heart block condition. My heartbeat had dropped to a low rate and was unsteady, I felt very tired and sick at times. Its set to 60 beats which is my normal, and its wonderful, no problems, I can still jog a mile every day. There is a monitor which records my heart details at night electronically.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Quagmire on Sunday, April 9, 2023, 12:21:53
Anyone, especially the runners, ever suffered with tendinitis in their Achilles?

Got it bad at the moment and can’t seem to shift it, I’ve rested it, iced it, had acupuncture, ultrasound, massages - the lot.

Anyone got any ideas? Went for a 6 mile hike this morning and it’s not happy with me.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Jimmy HaveHave on Sunday, April 9, 2023, 12:27:35
You could try seeing a physiotherapist (easier said than done) or maybe discuss a cortisone injection with the Doctor if rest dosen't cure it.
I have a similar problem with tennis elbow.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: molepar on Sunday, April 9, 2023, 13:35:32
Anyone, especially the runners, ever suffered with tendinitis in their Achilles?

Got it bad at the moment and can’t seem to shift it, I’ve rested it, iced it, had acupuncture, ultrasound, massages - the lot.

Anyone got any ideas? Went for a 6 mile hike this morning and it’s not happy with me.
Best thing I ever did as far as running injury prevention was go and get a free gait assessment in a running shop. They film you on a treadmill in a neutral shoe and then try you with other shoes and repeat to see how the different shoes affect things. A trainer at the gym noticed I was moving from side to side on the treadmill and suggested I was over pronating and I should get assessed for other shoes. I used to get pain that I assumed was shin splints and since I changed to a new type of shoe I haven’t had any problems. The shoes won’t help you recover quicker from any injury you have currently but may prevent recurrence.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: RJack on Sunday, April 9, 2023, 14:33:54
Anyone, especially the runners, ever suffered with tendinitis in their Achilles?

Got it bad at the moment and can’t seem to shift it, I’ve rested it, iced it, had acupuncture, ultrasound, massages - the lot.

Anyone got any ideas? Went for a 6 mile hike this morning and it’s not happy with me.
Could be a number of things
Over pronation as mentioned above might be worth a trip to someone like Run Swindon in old town to gait your gait checked

Can also be caused if you ramp up your miles too quickly especially if you’ve not run regularly or just returned to running.

Do you run on your tip toes?
Make sure you are doing some cross train as well running it’s important especially legs and core.

If it doesn’t clear up highly recommend Danny Clayton he’ll see you right


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Quagmire on Sunday, April 9, 2023, 14:42:02
I went to Run Swindon last year, due to shin splints, and they were excellent. So for that reason I don’t think it’s running related. I’ve also cut down on it lately and just been walking more and doing general gym work.
I was playing Badminton most weeks too, which is when it started to get worse

But I’ve done next to nothing the last 2/3 weeks to try and give it a rest, and it doesn’t seem to be getting much better at all. .



Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: DiV on Sunday, April 9, 2023, 14:42:51
Anyone, especially the runners, ever suffered with tendinitis in their Achilles?

Got it bad at the moment and can’t seem to shift it, I’ve rested it, iced it, had acupuncture, ultrasound, massages - the lot.

Anyone got any ideas? Went for a 6 mile hike this morning and it’s not happy with me.

Pretend you’re playing in midfield for Swindon.


Title: Re: The Running and General Health Thread
Post by: Quagmire on Sunday, April 9, 2023, 14:43:37
Pretend you’re playing in midfield for Swindon.

 :D