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I start it off.

Alan Curbishley.

Holloway. Anyone else and I won't be going anymore.

Ady Boothroyd

John Ward. Anybody else and I won't be going anymore.

John Hollins got put on gardening leave by Weymouth yesterday.

I'd rather have Waddock or someone of that ilk though.

Steve Cotterill. Anyone else and I won't be going anymore.

lou macari

Luc Niholt. Anyone else and I won't be going anymore.

Martin Ling. Anyone else and I won't be going anymore.

luc nijholt

Herthab. Unless it's anyone else nobody will be going any more.

Gus Poyet

glen hoddle

Dennis Wise

paul sturrock

Holloway without a doubt

I would fucking love that!

Not a bad bet, he is highly regarded as a coach, but would he want to manage at this level ?

Ady Boothroyd would be good but I think he wants a rest before getting back into the game

boothroyd's gone to australia to learn new managerial techniques

jim gannons rejected a new contract at stockport...

Jim Gannon. Anyone else and I won't be going anymore.

Me. Anyone else and I won't be going anymore.

He's already walked out on us once ffs.

Holloway will do me, he's entertaining, I want to be entertained.

Unless Jan A fancies the job.

I don't give a fuck about having a manager that's entertaining. I want a team that's entertaining.

It's got to be Billy Smart.

Bangkok Red. Cause that would be fucking ace and I fucking rock on Football Manager.

Anybody else and I wont be going.

Billy Smart's Travelling Circus!!!!

Billy Conolly. Non-dour Scot just to confuse the advertards

Iain Dowie WILL be appointed..

tho Id have loved to have seen Gus Poyet .. or Martin Keown .. or Ian Holloway .. or Steve Cotterill

Zippy will be in charge tomorrow tho - who knows he might keep the job!

Me, I rule on FM and I also got London Scottish promoted as champions last season! :-D

Anybody and I won't be going  :cry:

It'll be Holloway, but i'd love Sir Jan-Aage of Fjortoft to return.

I agree with LS, i dont think that will happen though.

Dowie i reckon

Gus Poyet would be a joke of a signing. he's walked out on us once and shows no layalty so he can fuck off.

Holloway or Dowie would be a good choice i feel. Or with things goiung bad at Forrest would we make a cheeky bid for CC????

just to throw another name onto the fire

No to Colin C, he's really struggled at Forest and was never that popular with Northampton.

We need a popular personality, Holloway fits the bill for me.

Yeah, unlike all the other loyal managers that are around without clubs. Not that I can name anyone.

Dowie would be good. Not loyal though....

What's the infatuation with Dowie all of a sudden?  I know he did well for 6 months at Palace, but have I forgotten the amazing success he's had elsewhere?

On 6-0-6:

"Managers available?

John Ward, Aidie Boothroyd, Sam Aladyce, Richard Money, Juande Ramos, iain dowie..."

Ramos :D

my point is he's been here before and soon jumped ship even though we were flying and going somewhere under him and Wise.

It's his movie star looks that have got us all going!

Dowie with JAF as Goal Celebration Coach would be good.

God I miss the Goonies!

sloth

Yes, but he went to a club that was in a higher division, with huge potential. Why anyone expects loyalty from players and managers is beyond me. Unless they're Swindon fans it's just a job and, if a better one comes along, they'll be off like a shot. Just like we would.

(I Still reserve the right to call anyone who voluntarily leaves us a judas cunt)

Leeds were in our league.

My Dad rang me at 8.15 this morning to tell me that chris kamara has told his mate to get some cash on Holloway being the next manager.

My old man has no reason to say that unless he has been told that

I would take Holloway, Dowie or Jan the man. Any would be good IMO.

Anyone with good connections, a proven record and will play good attacking football and strengthen the defence.

Holloway or Dowie for me.

I heard the same thing, from the same source!

Mr. A. Williams

No they weren't.

Ossie Ardiles.

Dowie, Holloway, Cotterill anyone like that and I'd be happy aslong as they get to choose their own coaching set-up.
My big fear is Byrne and Williams for an extended period but I would imagine Fitton won't make the same mistake twice.

Waddock, Dillon or Gannon or all good shouts but I can't see it being anyone other than Dowie or Holloway...I think if they both apply they should have a fight to the death in the centre circle before tomorrows game.

Andy King please.

8)

Holloway, Dowie, Cotterill, Boothroyd or Richard Money.
Would be happy with any of them.

Kevin Dillon would be an interesting choice, but I can't see him leaving Reading.
Of course, all the fans would hate him, becasue of Reading .

Dr Josef Venglos?

Problem with Holloway and Dowie is they think they're big time. Out of the two I'd prefer Dowie.

richard money's not a bad shout also. Andy King :D

didnt money get the sack from walsall or am i mistaken

He resigned didn't he?  Don't think he was sacked.

Resigned as their ambitions didn't match his

Managers Id be happy with
 (in no particular order)

Ian Holloway
Steve Cotterill
Lou Macari
Gus Poyet
Martin Keown
Nigel Clough
Liam Daish

I pray and hope its not Nick Holmes tho!

i heard a rumour that fitton has excelled himself and tapped KK up

King Kev ;)

Keenan and Kel?

now we are living in dream land

nah...Kevin Keen....the bandiest (SP) legs in the west  ;D

I like Nick Holmes. Everytime I hear him on the radio he reminds of Peter Cook doing Derek and Clive stuff. I half expect him to say something like "The whales were all Nazis! They were at the Nuremberg rallies, mate. They were all whales."

Andy Cole - Player manager

Its not a circus without animals - so for that reason - i cannot support Billy Smart and his 'variety show'. :)

If he is Derek, or Clive, (I can't remember which one's which) I hope he bring's his size 9 **** kickers!  Cos he's going to need them.

(please note I've decided to clean up my posts, no more swearing before the watershed for me!)

Don't. I like the swearing and dislike *'s and £'s and swapped around letters in the middle of a sentence. Gives me a headache.

Don't worry Ben I'll still be swearing after nine pm (local time).  I hope Bangkok Red is up for this too, as it'll make a world of difference, morally.  We have a duty to our younger supporters to show them that you don't have to swear to talk bollocks.

Bag of shite

Swear properly all the time you cunt. It's against the tef rules not to. I don't give a shit about your moral bollocks and the younger supporters can fuck off.

Didn't he retire?

EDIT: Oh and its Andrew Cole, as he wanted to reinvent himself.

I don't know what that would do for our crowds, but it would add a guaranteed one to Bath City's home gates.

But he's responsible for our highest finish this century.

Only because this century has been a shit one for STFC.

So far, anyway, there's a bit to go yet.

& is now Academy Director at Newcastle

There might be an opening at Radio 2 that would be perfect for you.

How about Paul Tisdale or Lawrie Sanchez???

Oh god, noooooooooooooooo.

On 606, laughable.

gary speed has been my preferred choice for a while.
holloway,coterill, good shouts too.
allardyce not a big enough job,same with cubishly and boothroyd i reckon.
someone to whet the appetite of fans please fitton.

It'll be Byrne and Williams.

Doubt we've got the spare cash to pay off Malpas and bring in a new manager.

Don't need to pay him if it was mutual consent.

Why would he sack Malpas and appoint them though........wouldn't really make good business sense. Plus in his interview he said he'll be looking for a proven track record and I don't reckon he'd back down on that again as he admitted he made a mistake last time.

I'd imagine we do or he'd never have agreed to walk.

Although Mr Fitton and his backers - rightly so - dont want to throw money at the club and want to become self sufficient - I think for emergencies money is available - this is without doubt one of those emergency times

Emergencies basically involve asking Mr Arbib for a bit of extra dosh ... but without taking the mick so to speak

I think Fitton was right to go down the self sufficient route .. and Im sure it was hard for him to admit defeat over Malpas ... he believed in Sturrocks recommendation but it proved the wrong one ...

Im confident of a new exciting period of actually having a top board with a top manager real soon!!

As a result id recommend anyone who hasnt got a 2nd part of their season ticket (I got mine a month ago!) to do so now .. Cos we are ON THE UP!

COME ON YOU REDS!! Lets start with 3 points tomorrow

£££££

If he was planning on bringing in a manager wouldnt he have got rid of Byrne and Williams to?

I dont know, prove me wrong Fitton

Not immediately. Unless you've got someone directly lined up, you need caretakers until you appoint someone. Come on, DV, I'm not saying anything you don't already know here

Lets be honest though we know they have money.....yes they want the club to be self sufficient but part of the formula to become self sufficient is to have the right manager in charge. Therefore I would imagine they have decided to take the financial hit now in order to increase the chances of self suffiency in the long term.

This is where I worry about expectations and stuff. I'm not convinced it's possible for swindon to have a sustained stint in the league above whilst staying self sustained, not without some real major changes anyway. I'd argue that kicking about in the division we're in with the occasional promotion/relegation is naturally our level. I'm quite happy with that as well.

fitton invested in stfc and got his manager appointment wrong.to protect his investment he will have to throw some more of his money at the club to get the ball rolling again.i'm sure he accepts this.managers come and go.someone who knows what they are doing will have prepared for it.

they will re-employ malpas in a shock turn of events

I would love Ady Boothroyd and he would still be close enough to London for his family - but wasn't he rumoured to have rejected Huddersfield as he didn't want back into the game quickly.

I think above all else we need someone high profile who has a reputation in the game so he can go to these premier clubs and get loan players, and get's tipped off about players available.

From what the Huddersfield fans say Aidy Boothroyd is off to Austrailia to study different coaching methods, how much truth their is in that I dont know

Does he though? His investment and Swindon's financial stability isn't dependent on promotion. In fact would it be that much more difficult to run the club at a minimum loss from League Two?

He'll probably get a year's payoff, I'm sure AF will have come to an arrangement.

I read that somewhere, but I suppose if Fitton speaks to him and gives him a chance to come to a club, it's on the up with new owners, a bit of money to spend, the club has ambition...he may be swayed and of course we're not that far from London so he dosen't have to move done here....

Listening to Fitton's interview I think he knows who he wants, not all he has to do is to convince that person.

I'd rather someone got the job because they was impressed with what's on offer than because they just need a job.

There's always Curbishley though as well...,..

in Australia? The towering giant of world football Australia? seems a bit bizarre to me, unless he's off to learn about Aussie Rules.

If we were at the top end of League Two and winning every week we'd probably bring in more money from ticket sales.

Plus, with being top of that league we'd be more likely to get our mugs on TV as well.

fitton has stated he wants us in the championship.maybe stabilty isn't a problem but a club should be ambitious.fitton is from what i've read and heard

The novelty would soon wear off and attendances drop after a season in there though. Trips to Morcambe, Acc Stanley, Macclesfield etc on a regular basis are hardly appealing.  The amount of away fans at the CG would be appalling as well so think we'd make more money in this league especially with the odd big team such as Leeds and Leicester bumping up attendances.

I agree with the ambition but I don't think there has to be a race to get there. Malpas didn't work out, but I don't think that suddenly means it's time to desperately buy our way up the leagues.

Stable success might mean taking more punts on Malpas style cheap managers until one works, or at least until things are in order off the pitch.

There's a lot to sort out at the club on and off the pitch, things haven't worked out for with Malpas but that doesn't mean the last 10 months have been a waste of time. Even if you do put a time limit on the promotion plan (3 years), then getting the team right is something you do at the end of that plan. It would have been nice if it had have worked out of course, but it's not the end of the world.

i'd be happy with steady progression year by year.i didn't mean throw huge sums of money at it either.but whatever he chooses he has lost money as malpas will be paid something,and the new man will be earning.
not its not the end of the world but we are at square 1 again.

We're not at square 1 though, well presuming that Fitton really has been sorting out the behind the scenes mess. The backroom stuff may be hidden, but it makes success on the pitch more likely.

I've heard it could be Big Ron.

whats on offer on the pitch aint progressed thats what i meant by square 1.look at malpas's signings,poor.
league postion,poor.cup progress,poor.
key players form,poor.
we now need to find a new boss as malpas has failed in his job.

the foundations within the club are stronger than they have been for years.the team is as poor as it's been since iffy's reign.
luckily the squad is stronger now.the right boss can help acheive the potential the club now has

haha

Spot on fb. What the hell's happened to you today, the sensible non-manatee-related posts are just flowing out of you?

Its Graham Taylor, he was seen in the CGH ten mins ago....

It's going to be a long few days.....

I've just seen Alan Curbishley at the train station...

 

:D

he was necking a pint of cider, mumbling somthing about calming nerves before an interview, so unless Burdens are recruiting again....

He's going to not like the colour of the managers office walls.

Aye this good fellas, keep up the good work.

hmmmm.... I wonder if there are any other ex-Dundee United pro's looking for work at the mome?

Where is Peter Reid now a days?

10 months ago martin Ling was the name being bandied about. No one's mentioned him to date. Me personally, I would like to see either an untested big name like Hoddle/ Lou/ Ossie, but their aren't many around these days apart from Shearer or sheringham & doubt we could / would get either of them. The other alternative is the tried & tested route & we would again be hard pushed to get anybody who I would really get excited about here too. The last one we got in this category was Paul Sturrock & I can't think of anyone with a record as good as his was when we appointed him.

Peter Reid's got a fucking monkeys head,
a fucking monkeys head,
a fucking monkeys head....

Manager of Thailand.

I hope its not Ling or Calderwood...

A monkey's got Peter Reid's head
it's got Peter Reid's head etc

Both are in employment DV

I can't think of anybody I want so I hope it's another unknown.

Not for much longer I wouldnt have thought.

Leyton Orient are even worse than us

It's Dave Mackay's 74th birthday.

is Ken Beamish still around?

I hope we poach someone. Someone good. That would make my day

Martin Allen?

Don Rogers ?

I love manager rumour threads, so far then we've had:

Andy King, John Ward, Steve Cotterill, Ian Holloway, Adi Boothroyd, Alan Curbishley, Sam Allardyce, Luc Nijholt, Colin Calderwood, Martin Ling, Jan Aage Fjortoft, Peter Reid, Glen Hoddle, Dave Mackay, Ron Atkinson, Ken Beamish, Martin Allen, Richard Money, Martin Keown, Gus Poyet, Gary Speed, Graham Taylor, Andrew Cole, Paul Tisdale, Lawrie Sanchez, Lou Macari, Nigel Clough, Liam Daish, Kevin Keegan, Nick Holmes, Ian Dowie, Ossie Ardiles, Kevin Dillon, Juande Ramos, Jim Gannon, John Hollins, Neil Waddock, Dennis Wise, Paul Sturrock and Don Rogers.

It'll be one of the above.

Either that, or someone else.

Manuel Peixoto.

daAV
Dave Byrne and Adi Williams

No it won't.

It'll be Dennis Bergkamp. Sam missed him off.

Jimmy Sirrel from beyond the grave

And he missed out Billy Conolly.

I feel it's only fair that I rule myself out now.

I suppose it is cheaper, employing the undead. They'll do it just for the braaiiiins. And instead of 'mutual constent' you just lop the head off.

Someone on here needs to apply.

I am sure AF would be good enough to respond.

Considering it....

We should do a group application, buy one, get 25 free.

I applied last time and basically got told to fuck off :D

Do it again. Your persistance could be key in landing your dream job!

I wish you well.

I'll save you the trouble Tans

Fuck off

It won't be Lingy - he wanted to do away with the youth system and just buy players in - obviously not a good for his interview when the club are relying on bringing through good youth for investment...

One thing that Fitton didn't say and thst was that he would be inviting applications - he mentioned people had already been on the phone, which make me suspect he knows exatly who he wants and will pursue them.

Agreed villie

I heard it that the phone calls were coming to him... As in the ones that every club gets that as soon as a manager's position looks a bit shakey, they come out of the woodwork. Wasn't it ten minutes after King's first sacking that Bobby Gould phoned up?

I think it will be holloway wouldn't object to gary speed though

I really hope not, get both of those clowns out now!!!

As they're in charge for tomorrow's game, probably not.

Jerel Ifil player manager, with Lloyd Opara as his assistant.  Marshy 69 as youth team coach.

You must agree that appointing Byrne and Williams permanently would be a disaster though Paul.. Surely..

Why would it be a disater.

Their caretaker spell wasnt that bad was it? I suppose Byrne does wave his arms around too much.

why on earth would we pay compo for ling? oh he used to play for us so will do a great job.yawn!

We've got lumps of it round the back..

They have both been involved in the Malpas era so have contributed to the downful, neither has tactical nous, one is old school and abusive (his way or the highway), the other is out on the piss with the players.  If we appointed them it would cause the same discontent the Malpas appointment did, with most fans feeling very very dissappointed.  Time for a proven manager and proven coaching team.

I suppose it'd be a "disaster" of sorts because we're not after a "not bad" return.  I wouldn't be happy with DB and AW given til the end of the season as I don't feel they have done a good enough job under MM.  And I'm still struggling remembering being impressed during their last term in charge.  A home draw v Swansea seems to be the highlight.

I also think a fresh management team would do the club the world of good.

Agreed. If you're going to give Byrne and Williams the job on a full time basis then you might aswell have left Malpas in charge.

It's time we moved on and had a complete clearout of the backroom staff.

agreed, clean slate.

and Gould called while king was still in a job, it was king that picked up the phone!!!!

feel free to discuss here under my new blog. That is all.

http://fourfourtwo.com/blogs/insideswindontown/archive/2008/11/14/the-names-in-the-frame-for-swindon-s-vacant-hot-seat.aspx

Evening everyone.

Another year, another exit but it's happened and now we can move on.

I've absolutely no idea who I want to come in.

Well, Andrew Fitton certainly likes a 'proper' coach so I'm going beyond the obvious with a stab at Stevie Cotterill.

I don't want Byrne & Williams taking over that's for sure, no better than the Malpas appointment in my opinion.

There's plenty of good managers out there that are unemployed at the moment. It's just a case of wait and see.

Scorpio never waited to see.

are thousands going to return to watching the Town now, or do we have a new excuse yet?

All I'd like to see in the very immediate future is that we actually back whoever is appointed. And yes Byrne and Williams while they're in caretaker charge. I think one of the things that has dismayed me most today has been the number of "Oh, no, not that tosser" type comments re Byrne being in charge for tomorrow's game. Because if we go into that game with the same kind of negativity directed at Byrne that we've had directed at Malpas for so many months we WILL lose it. Whereas if we unite behind the team AND the caretaker managers we, erm, will probably still lose it, but we'll at least have a fighting chance. And personally I'd quite like to enjoy watching my football again - you know, where we have a great atmosphere and lift the players instead of spending the whole game listening to people complaining

He didn't have to. Remember that he was the first wealthy man to wear jeans with a sports coat. He's cutting edge.

Have you ever seen a man say goodbye to his shoes?

As we speak, i'm sure the pages of the excuse books are getting a real workout.

I wonder if our resident happy-old-smiley-face-optimist has cheered up now, and will continue to smile like the joker once we get a new manager?

"We don't have bums in this town Homer, and if we did they wouldn't rush, they'd be allowed to go at their own pace."

Classic.

Be interesting what names end up in the hat considering who is available (need to change profile)

Ryan Giggs as player manager  :D













OK, so it's not going to happen.

Wonder if they would consider going down the Player/Manager route again.
It worked out well for us in the 80's/90's.

Gary Speed?

Did thousands not turn up with Malpas then??

I thought they were all not paying for their 2nd instalments as they were so dejected?

I'm pretty sure we got behind the team before and during the Oldham game.

I haven't paid for my 2nd installment simply because at the time i could not afford to.

nah you dreamed all of that

Yes we did, but it was one of the few home games we have done (collectively) this season. And we played well and won. So let's try doing it again starting tomorrow.

I wonder if Holloway will be in the Town End again ;) Leicester fans would make him feel welcome I'm sure.

Was the reason behind Holloway's appearance scouting? If he was there to make his intentions known it was most sneaky and I don't think Fitton was impressed.

One form leftfield - Alex Inglethorpe. Proven, albeit at a lower level, with Exeter a few years back. Really impressed with the way he conducted himself. Spurs spotted his potential and took him there with a view to filtering him through the ranks. With various shake-ups there now,not sure thats still the case.

He's young, he's a brilliant prospect and proven enough to be given a fair go, without being that proven that we're waiting for someone to come and snaffle him.

If not him, then Steve Cotterill.

The likes of Alex Inglethorpe and Richard Money are on Premiership gravy trains and don't need to move on.

When we asked this question a month or so ago I argued in the case of Paul Tisdale, the man who did everything Inglethorpe was supposed to do.

Inglethorpe had the luck of drawing Manchester United away in the FA Cup - and to be even more fortunate to get a draw thus securing Exeter's future.

Tisdale has since signed a new deal.

I reckon we should go for Maurice Malpas. Has experience at this level, and although not overly successful seems to be a bloke with his feet on the ground. Bit of experience in Scotland too.

Who?

He'd need to bring someone experienced in as number two though, Barry Hunter maybe?

I think it'll be Ian Holloway - which will benefit Lillian Nalis I'm sure. Could be worse, I'm not a mega fan but you cannot question his passion. I saw his Plymouth team play many times and they never played the sexiest football but they grinded out good results. He also brought in some decent players like Ebanks-Blake, Halmosi and Buzsaky (along with some not-so-good)

I guess Tim Breacker and his best mate Gary Penrice would come in aswell leaving Byrne and Williams redundant.

First game in charge? Bristol Rovers at the Memorial Stadium. Interesting.

Digby wants Olly as new boss
http://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk/sport/swindontown/news/3847931.Digby_tips_Holloway_for_Town_hot_seat/

Sevral of these articles have already been posted in the other thread

I would be very happy with Holloway. It would give the club and the fans a massive lift and get things kick started on the pitch.

I haven't trawled though the pages and pages of stuff that has been written but do people think Boothroyd is out of the question? What were the circumstances of him leaving Watford? How did the fans react to him going?

Yes, that was Bootsie's first post.

I like Fraser Digby, he reminds me of times when players had names like Fraser Digby :D

I think I might champion Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeves, now I haven't done that for a while

I think that people may think it's a possibility. I think they had a shit start to the season. I think the Watford fans may have reacted in a number of different ways.

Metathesis?

i want Holloway, and Gary Penrice is amazing at his job!

In terms of ambition, Boothroyd possibly stayed at Watford for too long. The writing was on the wall when financial problems emerged. You cannot fault his commitment in wanting to take Watford forward though.

He'll have to get back into football somehow as the Premier-ship job has sailed (he was long touted as a possible big-time manager once upon a time) - but he'll wait and see what comes up. For example a job like Sheffield Wednesday would be a good gig for him. If he's in Australia observing (the Aussie Institute of Sport I would guess!!) then he'll be out for a while.

Bascially, I'm saying that he could still wait and get a Championship job.

As a strikers coach or as head of recruitment?

Erm...Pseudopseudohypoparathyroidism?

 If you're around the management game at the top end for a while, then you can set yourself up by being sacked and living off the pay outs....someone like Dowie, must have trousered a small fortune in the last few years, from signing decent contracts and being sacked a few months later.

  Boothroyd having got Watford up, and having had some Prem experience, probably would be on at least a quarter mill pa.

 I saw an interview with Cotterill a while back where he was asked about his future career and he said he was waiting for at least a Championship club.  He probably got a decent pay out from Sunderland and Stoke.

 Compare this to the Sturrock attitude, I'm a manager...I need to work....believe in taking the first decent offer that comes along.

Sounds daft but I still miss Luggy! He was ace!

I think Fitton was impressed. watch the video... He says call me pretty much!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/swindon_town/7728908.stm

Certainly would seem that the door is very much open for him doesn't it.

Very impressed with that interview - Fitton always comes across as totally genuine as well as being an astute businessman

and a Shakespeare quotation aswell, well an attempt of one anyway.

Very good interview. Fitton is playing this very well... He could have gone withdrawn, but by doing these interviews etc it shows he still has the passion.

Actually I thought that Fitton seemed slightly irritated by Holloway's recent appearance in the Town End and guarded in his reponse. My take was that he wasn't that interested and that any application would only be considered as a perfunctory courtesy.

Maybe. But we shall see. It'll be sorted sooner rather than later either way.

Damn weekends with fixtures to deal with.

He was actually trying to quote Oscar Wilde, but hey-ho!

I couldn't have been paying attention then. The South Park 2008 Presidential episode was on TV.

Nah, you weren't mistaken - he thought it was Shakespeare.

Was a classic. This weeks HIgh School Musical was better than I expected.

http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/wdp/sport/Swindon-chairman-won-t-chasing-Holloway-new-boss/article-476708-detail/article.html


Sorry if it's been mentioned before. My broadband is crippled at 100k and surfing is SLOW.

Watching the BBC interview where those quotes came from, I think, you could've interpreted it either way.

Have to say I took it as being disapproving of the breach of protocol as well. Kind of "If Ian Holloway thinks turning up in the Town End constitutes applying for the job, he can damn well ring us up and apply like anyone else". But I don't suppose it matters - if he does apply properly and he's the best candidate he'll get the job; if he isn't he won't.

Holloway confirms he wants the job............. That said, I wonder how many chants of "IAN HOLLOWAY" we will hear today?

http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/news/headlines/3849764.Favourite_Holloway__very_interested__as_Town_search_for_new_boss/

A fair few I reckon.

I think this business of him being at the Huddersfield game has been blown out of proportion a bit. All he has done is attend a game as a private individual. It is in his interest to go to games whilst 'between jobs' and keep in touch with what is going on.

IF he did have an agenda of getting his name 'out there' in connection with Swindon if could have back fired completely. For all he knew, being a Slave Trader, he might have got a load of abuse from Swindon fans.

In any event, it should not deter Fitton from speaking to him if he applies for the job (I'm sure it won't and I'm sure he will)

Holloway almost seems a lock really. Holloway is saying he wants it, Fitton says he will speak to him so..... depends I guess now on transfer money etc perhaps?

Surely there is more than one manager who wants the job who Fitton will speak to.

 My gut instinct is to never trust a Bristolian....my head tells me not to be so stupid.

 

Ian Holloway  6/4  
Iain Dowie  3/1  
Steve Cotterill  6/1  
Aidy Boothroyd  8/1  
Geraint Williams  10/1  
Gus Poyet  10/1  
David Byrne  11/1  
Lawrie Sanchez  12/1  
John Ward  12/1  
Martin Keown  14/1  
Wally Downes  14/1  
Luc Nijholt  14/1  
Dennis Wise  16/1  
Richard Money  16/1  
Kevin Dillon  16/1  
Nigel Clough  20/1  
Gary Waddock  22/1  
Paul Tisdale  25/1

It could be a Marlborian/Bristolian stand off ... Fitton won't chase him and Holloway waits to be asked!

We need someone to tell a mate of each of them "my mate fancies your mate"

I thought Holloway was a dead cert, but i'm not starting to think otherwise. I'd be happy with almost any on that list as long as it isn't Lawrie Sanchez. Dennis Wise would ruffle a few feathers, and i wouldn't really want him back (and couldn't see him coming in a month of Sundays), but at least he'd motivate our lot. Again.

Out of that list then Dowie or Waddock for me. Like a few others I'd go for Gary Speed but it won't happen.

Tisdale is the top of the want list out of that lot but I can't see it happening

Dowie still getting paid by QPR,so that isnt going to happen,Waddock would cost in Comp....Holloways nailed on IMO.

dowie is my punt.it's not going to be difficult to be better than malpas whoever takes over

Told this morning by someone who knows Watkins that Holloway is almost a done deal and Cox is going to Sheffield United in January for 1.5Mill to make up for lost revenue from cup exits. He has no reason to make something like that up so I am in inclined to think their maybe some truth in  it.
I dont normally post any rumours as you always get slated but I kind of think this one might be true.

i'd really like to see poyet back

Cotterill or Dowie would be my first choices.

soapy tit wank at people saying curbishley et al
i would bet £10 that holloway or byrne will get it...
byrne should have got it last time imo, he did a good job as caretaker last time round

I think Byrne's form was W2D2L3 including two absolutely dire 3-0 losses against Carlisle and Brighton.

No offence to Budgie but I dont want BYrne to get it, I want a clean slate and a brand new start.

Hollowhead for me.

You know why budgie would get the job?

He's the 'cheep' option.

BOOM BOOM!

Haha that did actually make me laugh Dave.

Lets Sign Darren Patterson Tbh I Think He Will Be A Good Manager For Us

trust me he will  :nod:

 :doh: ;D

We heard you first time.

I am sure it was ignored mostly because of the total absurditity of such an appointment not to mention HE IS A FUCKING SHIT SCUMMER!

But How Much Would It Piss Off Oxford Tho

If He Does Well Here They Would Be So Fucking Pissed Off

Think About It

I
i've thought about it, and decided i'd rather finger a gorillas ear

Well Whatever U Do In Your own Time Is Your Choice

Why's your email address oxfordhooligan@....?

Fucking Patterson, terrible attempt at a wind up.  Run alongback to your pox site.

I had to look up who DARREN PATTERSON was.

John Ward- good for Cheltenham, not so good elsewhere .
Sam Aladyce- Stayed with Bolton for ages, not so well with Newcastle.
Richard Money- won the L2 title with Walsall, Just.
Juande Ramos- one cup with spurs, didn’t last one whole season.
Gus Poyet- same as Ramos, relegation with Leeds, left us in the lurch before and would do it again.
Dennis Wise- relegation with Leeds left us in the lurch 2 years ago and would do it again.
Iain dowie – never stays at any club for more than a season, won sweet FA .
Ian Holloway- relegation with Leicester, ok elsewhere. Passionate .
Steve Cotterill- won a lot with Cheltenham, ok with Burnley.
Aidie Boothroyd- best man on this list, got Watford to the top flight but like Swindon in 93/94 came back down, Passionate. Stuck with Watford for 3 whole seasons.

It will be someone unknown though, like with Malpas.
I want Steve Cotterill or Aidie Boothroyd.

Did a great job with Carlisle first season before having his best players sold out from under him
On very little resources, was missed when he left them because fell out with board
Left with Wise, the two always came as a package, can't blame either of them given the loonies running the club at the time

All the above - ha, ha, ha. Not even on the list in the real world

We should get someone in who's good with drums

You forgot about Glen Hoddle lardy.

 I have it on very reliable information, that although several have expressed an interest, only one of the out of work bosses has actually applied so far.

And who do you think that is,although to be fair there has only been 7 working hours since mm left

 There is an informal grapevine...those interested find out how much $, then if they're interested express that interest more formally.

 You're right that there hasn't been long...but AF has stated it wont take long, which I'd figure would put this fella in the driving seat.

or maybe fitton has a target which makes applications irrelivant?

Maybe Fitton and the rest of the board fancy a go at this manager malarkey? If they'd played Football Manager, which i know for an absolute fact is harder than real management, they've had their baptism with fire and might be just what we need.

I VOTE FOR FRANNIE BENALIE

Hasn't AF said that he may also approach people if they don't apply & he thinks they could be good ?

I thought he'd said the opposite, that he wouldn't consider anyone who hadn't applied? He was asked about Holloway, and he said "we'll consider him, if he applies. We aren't going to chase him".

Or something

According to BBC.co.uk Byrne wants the job and he has a train set!!! If he doesnt get it his train set will derail.

Talk about throwing your toys out the pram.  No thanks Byrne, not until you are playing with action men anyway!

Curbishly please

That's not what he said. Try reading it again, more slowly this time, maybe

Spot on Village. I took it as a bit of slap-down along the lines of "If he wants to apply for the job properly, instead of flouncing about unannounced in the Town End ...."

What's the big deal about IH turning up in the TE?  The bloke lives near Chippenham, Town were at home so being the down to earth bloke he is he came to the CG, had a pint and sat in the TE.  Fair play to the bloke.

I hope he does apply, knocks the board's socks off during the interview gets offered the job and tells them to do one, I'd imagine AF wouldn't like to be slapped down in that scenario.

PS - I obviously hope he doesn't tell AF to do one, but I don't get this backhanded dismissal of an applicant.  AF should be welcoming as many experienced managers to apply as possible.

According to today's Adver, there's been over 50 applicants! Fitton has 7 interviews lined up for next week. Byrne likely to be in charge until the Walsall game.

There is something strange going on i think....£10,000 is alot of cash to put on if your not sure....but Ward is in a mess with Carlisle isnt he and a court case may be needed....he says he was sacked..Carlisle say he resigned....lets hope its sorted soon.

I hope we appoint Keith Curle, Paul Parker or Carlton Palmer.

Then we'd have the black manager i crave.

Fuck the others!

50 applicants?  45 of which from the TEF, which mean 2 of you lucky fellas (or girls) have an important meeting sometime next week.

Toni for manager!

Ha ha nice one Jan. That made me larf

I applied

did they tell you to fuck off too? 8)

I've heard there's a new favourite to get the job.  A Russian with a Scottish accent.  His name is Boris Balpasov.

You heard it here first.

Bollockski that is Jan.

i applied. i think i stand a good chance...

Me too - Id have all the players looking immaculate in no time!

I'd be a rubbish manager, I don't think I'd know half the players names.

im one of the 50!

"Swindon have drawn up a shortlist of up to seven candidates to become the new manager, BBC Radio Swindon understands. Chairman Andrew Fitton has not revealed any of the names involved but says a couple would surprise supporters."

I have heard that the contendors are Mr Blobby, Jason Orange, Che Guevara, Mr Kipling, Red Rum, The Invisible Man and the Planet Pluto.

I would personally take Mr Kipling, he'd be an exceedingly good choice!

Poor....

And Pluto's not a planet anymore.

Shoddy.

I knew that, it was a post designed to bring intelligent discussion to the Townend forum.

I think I did well!

No he said that he had a few candidates in mind & if they didn't apply he would approach them.

Thats what I thought, followed quickly by who lives near Marlborough. !!!!???

Pete Doherty?

Maurice Malpas?

They are making a clone, part Holoway and part Boothroyd. It will be called Holloroyd.

Using clone managers we can get through twice as many managers in the same time frame we only used to be able to fit one in.

And the beauty of it is, we'll only pay them one wage. Mwhahahaha.

OK ... time to come out from under the bed (that's where we reds are, right!) and clear this up.

50 applicants, of which 45 are TEFers according to Jan. 7 of 50 to be interviewed, so as Jan has cleverly worked out 2 TEFers are on the shortlist. The 45 are DRS, Sonic, JFW, Fatbury and me 41 times, including several as my alter ego Boris.

Therefore it's as plain as the nose on my face to me that I have gained 2 interviews, at least one as Boris, since none of you have received the letters or phone calls that I am obviously about to receive.
  
(Sorry Tans but Toni didn't apply and she will not be chaste ... is that clear?)

Isnt holloroyd the scottish parliment.  I thought we'd done with the scotch managers?

wow imagine if Jason Orange was the manager - that would be A.mazing!

He'd certainly make the team 'shine'. 

We'd rule the world and maybe maybe just relight the fire of some of our stayaway fans

Aye, the stayaways would be back for good

We'd have the best lulu's in the league!

If Jason Orange took over as manager there's only one thing I'd do and that's pray.

As long as no-one forgets where he came here from i would not mind

My apologies, i did read it "more slowly" this time and i understand it now.

What he said was, Pauld is a humourless donkey raping shit eater!

Cant believe i made such a mistake, sorry :)

Just heard this one again, apparently bringing Marcel Desailly in as his assistant.

nah we'll never forget that Dave.

Each night?

Thinking about it, if Jason Orange decided to go for a famous basketball player as his assistant, could it be magic?

if jason orange was made manager i'd be quite surprised, given the fact he's a popstar with no football management experience.

Jason Orange would certainly make sure that those stay away fans would be Back For Good, that's for sure.

Hasn't AF said that there are a couple that have applied that people have not even thought of - so who is out there that we don't think would apply - I reckon Curbishley & Sheringham

Someone give Poyet a call though and tell him to apply or send the application in on his behalf.

so the 7 next week - Holloway, Boothroyd, Ward, Dowie, Williams (Geraint) and the 2 surprises

I'm worried that Lawrie Sanchez will get an interview as well...as long as Fitton knows he's not welcome here

You missed out cotterill

so maybe replace Geraint Williams with Cotterill...can't be far wrong I wouldn't have thought....

A predicted two more weeks of speculation. Grrrrrrreat.

Heaven forbid we wins games and Byrne's stock is increased during that time.

He only had to ask...

I think I will acknowledge this fantastically awful pun. Brilliant.  :D

ahem

My apologies... Identical. I never read beyond the last few puns.

Never forget a good pun rich

It only takes a minute for me to forget something.

(sorry to the punster I've probably thieved from this time)

I guess we just need a little PATIENCE and then when we find the right man we'll RULE THE WORLD. Until then you can take ALL YOUR PROMISES and DO WHAT YOU LIKE.

http://www.garybarlow.moonfruit.com/#/ttdiscography/4520200252

See, it doesn't count if you have to type it in capitals. - "The Punner's Handbook"  rule 4, part ii)

I was just trying to put the sorry episode to bed.

Some further rules of pun-detry here.

Nobody cares if your puns were intended.

People who point out their puns are like comedians who explain their jokes: they both think you're too stupid to get it. The only good thing about the phrase "pun intended" is that it saves you time when you want to say "hello, I'm going to be at the bag convention this weekend, please be sure to stop by and say 'hi.' I'll be at the douche exhibit." Here's the deal: when you point out your puns, you're making a value judgement on me, the reader. You're saying:

Hey reader, you see that play on words I just made? Yeah, well that wasn't an accident. In fact, I thought it was so clever that I didn't think your simple mind would be able to comprehend the brilliance of my play on words, and I wanted to make sure you know that I'm not only smart enough to use homonyms, but that I'm smart enough to point them out.

The sheer level of narcissism it takes to think that anyone gives a shit about whether or not you meant to write your pun is mind boggling. If narcissism were measured in units of mass, the skulls of people who pointed out puns would crush in on themselves in a giant black hole of stupidity.

The other variation of calling attention to a pun is the pun denial, or "no pun intended," which is a less formal way of saying:

Dear Reader,

Please direct your attention towards my pun. Admittedly I do think it's clever, but I think that you think so highly of me, that I want you to know that I would never resort to using such a commonplace literary device in my prose. Therefore, I would like to formally renounce my attempt at humor and assure you that I am above making puns as a writer, as a pupil of language, and as citizen of Earth.

Sincerest apologies,
D. Baggerson

The phrase "no pun intended" makes me want to band saw my dick off just in case I'm the last man alive and I have to risk repopulating Earth with some moron's incapable vagina. There's no such thing as an unintentional pun; the act of typing the phrase "no pun intended" makes it intentional. If your pun truly wasn't intended, then why didn't you erase it and write something else, asshole?

I read an exchange the other day between some loser flirting with some lonely single mom on a message board for lonely single losers (not to preclude one from the other, no reason you can't be both). The guy's avatar said "IRISH 4 LIFE," and his profile stated that he's a "Dave Matthews Band" fan, so already his face is high on my list of places I would like to rest my feet (Dave Matthews fans are like the trans-fats of fandom: oversaturated with obnoxiousness, found everywhere, and impossible to get rid of; for example, they only refer to the band as DMB... you can't abbreviate the word 'band' assholes, it's a band by virtue of the fact that there is more than 1 person in it, and for the record, adding the word 'band' to your name doesn't make you any less of an egotistical shit head). Man, you know what I hate? Dave Matthews.

It's the whitest band ever, which is saying something considering 3 of the members are black, and Dave Matthews is literally an African American (born in South Africa). His music can be heard in Whole Foods stores, Live Earth concerts, or blasting from the speakers of open-topped Jeeps parked on curbs everywhere. The typical fan is either some dude wearing khaki cargo shorts replete with dangling rock climbing hooks, even though he doesn't hike because he can't afford to drive his gas-guzzling Jeep, or some chick with huge boobs, buck teeth, and an ankle-length floral skirt that she twirls around like an idiot because she thinks her awesome boobs give her enough social capital to make up for the buck teeth and hairy toes (they don't):

So anyway, I signed up for an account so I could send this guy hate mail for being a "DMB" fan since that was enough, but what I read next made me so mad that I headbutt myself in the face.

He was trying so hard to impress this chick, that he made a pun and followed it with "(and yes, pun intended!!)" So not only did he point out his pun, but he took it a step further and answered an imaginary rhetorical question that nobody was asking. Here's how the conversation played out in his head:

IRISH4LIFE: "Fighting global warming is cool." Hmm, I wonder if people will get the subtle association between the word "cool" and the concept of "global warming," since global warming has to do with heat, and the word cool has to do with cultural attitudes and perceptions as well as how chill something is. Holy shit, another pun! I'm on fire! HOLY SHIT! Three puns in a row?! I'm so getting laid. But what if she reads it and doesn't get it? I can picture her in my head:

Lonely mom: "Wait! Did you intentionally--"

IRISH4LIFE: I'd better cut her off mid-sentence while she's thinking by adding the parenthetical: "(yes! yes, that was intentional)." You've still got it, Irish.

Ho ho ho! Laugh it up, dickwad. People who point out their puns should be put to sleep (gassed).

Soz, I didnt really look back too far into the thread....but at the end of the day, you can never have too many (bad) puns.....

(There is no pun in this reply, although it does look like there are multiple TT song titles hidden within it)

Thought I'd chuck this in here...

Former Chelsea defender Albert Ferrer is looking to start his managerial career in England - preferably in the Championship, but he will "consider the lower divisions". (Times)

From bbc gossip column.

I want Dave Byrne, he would be a once in a lifetime appointment and would make sure we didnt end up on the road to nowhere.

 Ferrer does a lot of Sky Spanish football and I did wonder what he does with teh rest of his time and if he's still England based.  He talks sense, but so did MM.

 Maybe could do a Martinez, a gel a shed load of Spaniards with local talent, although I think he'd be more Barca than Espanyol.

 We'd have to get fB back into Los Gatos for the inside line on what was happening at the CG.

Mex...stop making sense or you may end up a physcho killer.

Psycho Killer
Qu'est-ce que c'est?
fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa far better
Run run run run run run run away
OH OH OH

shut up with your naive melody

Phil Parkinson is on the list according to News of the Screws

According to 5Live they're also reporting today that Curbishley has been sacked as Charlton manager ::) Presumably just after their shocking expose on safety concerns about the Titanic. Large sackfuls of salt required for anything appearing in the nationals methinks

Curbishly didnt last long!  Pardew was the manager yesterday!!!!!!???

 Parkinson was quite highly rated for his work with ColU....thought he was taking a step up with Hull, but it went rapidly pear shaped.
 
 Had a chance to take Uddersfield, but stuck with Charlton as AM, probably because he's got a fat contract until 2010.

 Too low key for our baying hordes...if they hadn't heard of MM, Sweatie legend, they'll certainly not know of Parkinson...Reading legend.

Aidy Boothroyd.

Its got to be. Fuck all this 'hes a long ball merchant' rubbish. He is top quality.

Game can do without Pardew. An expensive load of hot air.

 I suppose you never know, but I'd have thought Boothroyd could expect something along the lines of a CCC club.

But this is the manager rumours thread!

I don't know too much about Parkinson's style of football and merits/failures.

Boothroyd -  more likely to end up at a bigger club I'd have thought (Charlton?).
edit: ^^^beaten by Reg ^^^

I see that ex Derby & Preston manager Billy Davies is supposed to be on the list, he's looking to get back into football, would be a good appointment.

I'd take Billy Davies, Holloway or Boothroyd or Dowie.

Has davies not fallen out with the boards at every club he's managed?

I don't get the Dowie thing. Sure he had one good season with Palace but seems to have fallen on his arse everywhere else.

He won something like 8 out of 13 at qpr

had a decent record with Oldham aswell

It amused me on Thisis.

You read the Luc Nijholt interview and the reaction is "we don't want him", "no former players" etc etc despite having a quite good coaching career to his name... But elsewhere on the messageboard, Albert Ferrer, someone with no coaching experience could do the business at STFC.

:)

I forgot about his time there. QPR - the leagues richest club. not really relevant to STFC.

Personally I think the likes of Dowie and Boothroyd are out of our reach financially, but we will see.

Jonny Armchairfan has heard of Ferrer and Chelsea and Di Matteo is doing well which automatically means Ferrer will do well to.

On that note, Franchise second....how the fuck did that happen, even we beat them away from home!!!

Including Motherwell.

didn't ferrer spend most of his time at chelsea building sandcastles or am i thinking of someone else?

Injured alot IIRC, besides didn't Viall used to change his team every week a la the Benitez of old?

Played 200+ games for Barca I think so must have had some pedigree

I see in Saturdays sun they had a columin in the main paper going on about Ady Williams getting arrested. Apparently hes a top soccer boss and is currently manager of Swindon.

Shows how far these people are out of touch if its not the premiership imo.

Unless he is Fittons 'surprise'...........we are fucked!!!

I am inclined to agree Batch, yes I like any Town fan would welcome them but I truly cannot see Mr Fitton breaking the bank to emply them.

Boothroyd has already turned down Huddersfield and I would imagine that they would offer a more lucrative salary than we can right now, maybe it was because he didnt want to move to Udders, which is understandable!

ah, i was thinking of winston bogarde - 11 appearances in four years.

Watford have named Brendan Rogers as their new manager with Frank Lampard senior as football consultant.

Should I have heard of Brendan Rogers?

brother of don,buck and ted.

69 Dusty Bins in the 21st Century type of guy then?

Chelsea reserve team manager (ex-Reading youth manager), I hadn't heard of him previously either.  Don't think he's that well known, although the Watford fans seem happy enough.

Interesting appointment! Wonder if we'll go down a similar route?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Rodgers

who?

our fans would go mental if we appointed someone like that

His nickname is Buck, genius!

I guess it's a similar appointment to Boothroyd so i guess that's why they are happy.

That's more left field than when we appointed Malpas.

I got to admit when I read it on the BBC site, I said 'Who?'

http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/wdp/sport/football/David-Byrne-offered-extended-run-earning-Swindon-Town-manager-s-job/article-495562-detail/article.html

2 people currently in work aswell then

Well this is the biggest indication that Byrne will not get the job.  "Bigging up" the quality of applicants, and therefore raising the supporters expectations, only to promote from within would be a massive foot shooting exercise.

I'm confident that in a week or two (or maybe even three) the club will be in the safe hands of an experienced footballing individual.

Gary Speeeeed

What about the two currently in work then? Who do we think they could be?

Lingy? Calderwood?

Tisdale.

Maybe one could be a player still, i notice it says currently working but does not say as a manager

fatbury and DRS

Phil Parkinson and Richard Money would be my guess.

 Gary Waddock and Steve Fallon would be my guess.

Gary speed and martin ling i reckon.

Ruud Gullit and Graeme Souness. Sky Sports dream team.

I would say CC is a pretty good shout and Jim Gannon, He just turned down a new contract at Stockport.

Someone on Thisis reckons Forest fans think CC is going to get the job. Pinch of salt time I think.

  Seeing as how AF is saying we'll have to wait a bit longer to decide on a new manager, and there's no need to panic yet, because we're not in trouble in the league, why doesn't he try out this interesting suggestion.  Viz get a short list of 4 candidates, then give them say half a match each to show what impact they can have on the side.

 The fans could then have an input via a text vote, on the evidence of seeing what they do with the players, although the final say would rest with the Board.

 

I can only see the candidates that are currently 'in work' being either a manager of another club or still a player, there is nothing that stops Ass Managers applying or youth team coaches if they are interested in getting into managment.

I'd suggest one of them could be Ling, to be fair he has done well at Orient on a tight budget, they are not the biggest team and he does well to keep them in L1 each season, so a move to Swindon would be a step up for him but a big test and possibly a risk for AF.

Calderwood i'm not convinced he would leave Forest, not even for the chance to manage his old club, I happen to know he has said he would like to manage Swindon one day - I got that direct from CC, he must be close to the sack though, so unless he jumps before he is pushed.

The ony current players I can really think of is Speed, Gary Neville although with Neville he probably still has a couple of years left playing in the prem.

An interesting name that has been suggested to me is that of Brian McClair, he is currently a coach at Man U and has done well, has played at the highest level and won medals, he would have instant respect and the contacts - but would he want to leave Man U with Fergie's job available next year ?

no one in their right mind would go from Manchester United to Swindon.

He probably earns more than our entire first team do!

CC was a fantastic Swindon player, you could never thank him enough for what he done with our club but is he really the man we need for the job?
If he is struggling in the championship with the side that he has, what could he do here? Possibly have a couple of great seasons in L1, maybe end up with promotion, then its right back down again tho, isnt it?

Does Keegan fancy a go do you think?

david kerslake I've heard....perhaps due to the expectation that CC will be binned shortly

how about sammy macilroy??

David Kerslake or Sammy Mc, I would like either of those two.

But if he wants to be a manager though, they have to start somewhere.....look at Wise, Ince, Matteo, remember where you heard it first (as TCP69 would say)

I still want Boothroyd.

How many managerial vacancies are there at the mo ?

STFC
Charlton
'uddersfield
Crewe
Carlisle

Only really us, Carlisle and Uddersfield that are a stable club, and I think only Us & Udders have financial backing to be able to really take the club forward.

Andy King and his twin smoking chimp. Now that's what I call a dream team.

Yeah that Lou Macari was a right mug.

I've just heard from my source that we'll probably decide on the new full time boss at some point in the future.

Just been told by a source that one of the managers we are looking at who is currently employed by another club is Mark Robins of Rotherham United. He has done ok at Rotherham despite their points deduction. Rotherham would be 11th in League 2 without the deduction on 24 points and 4 points off the L2 playoffs. Not sure if this is true ofcourse and take it with a pinch of salt. I guess he has motivated the players to get them out of their current plight which Fitton talked about. Again could be bollocks and take it for what it's worth.

Did you know that if an infinite number of Andy Kings were left to bang on an infinite number of typewriters, sooner or later they would accidentally reproduce the complete works of William Shakespeare (or even just one of his sonnets).

I tried that with an infinite number of ralphy's, but the best they came up with was the complete works of Chaka Demus and Pliers. Bloody useless!