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Here's to another Saturday
1-1 with another early goal conceded, Obika to get off the mark and a generally good all round performance

For once I have a really good feeling about today's game.

I think we will win 1-0 after a Mike Grella goal.

I am very optimistic about Grella and Obika as a striker partnership, and we really do have a strong recent history at St. Mary's, haven't lost since 1996!

Going with a couple of saints fans today so I hope we win, it's been great having the 4-0 over them. Anyway, a good performance and 1-1, Dougie to score  :D

A fine day out.....2-1 Swindon.

Obika Double :D

I've had a feeling all week that we're going to get a result today. Still feeling strangely optimistic this morning.

My first away day since Rochdale and that finished 3-3.

1–0 to us. Looking forward to it, should be a good day out. Nice to see you up bright and early leefer

And off we go! 18-3 to Swindon please, but i'd probally take a point!  :)

1-0 saints.

I also hope to hear stories of crispy giving that 15 yr old hooligan a glasgow kiss

I aint going

2-1 to us with goals from Grella and Douglas.

Own goal by Frampton.


I'm not going either, shockingly

3-0 spanking

Going with a Southampton fan.

Play well, but lose 3-1.

2-1 Swindon. I won't be going or listening in anyway, just like the last 4 meetings between us. Therefore we win.

Grella with a 35 yard screamer in the 87th minute

Ferry on sky news this morning poncing on about fashion tips for the oscars.

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Not the best prep for a game of this magnitude ;)

Sorry but I have a hugely bad feeling about today a 4-0 defeat.

Not particularly optimistic - but I'm still excited at the prospect of our new signings.  They could cause a few problems.  I don't expect Southampton to wallop us.  Fingers crossed.

And if we do get thumped, there's England vs France at 5pm to take my mind off it.

I can't see us winning whilst tans is still alive. He's pissed off god with his sinful ways and unless we sacrifice him via the medium of fire and knives then we've got no chance of making the play offs.

We may get knocked for six but who knows? Would be nice to see Grella playing!

We'll see what happens when we get down there and glad we're taking a descent away support for once!  :nod:

My first away game since Walsall. I think we're in for a spanking. Anything less than 3-0 is a moral victory. I'm going in hope rather than expectation.

Does anyone know if i can pay on the gate today?

morning tefers! My match prediction is basically the same as sonic's. I'm at chuffing work so my only saving grace is being able to have a cheeky bet. What odd's 2-1 to us with Dougie first scorer? I could do with a couple of quid!

And he eats onion rice with Ruby Murray's. He's satanic one OK.

Oh dear. Here we go again. With no conviction whatsoever...

3-0 Grella, Ritchie, Douglas

4-0 Saints and a jagged contrast from last years away-day experience  :doh:

We'll play well but to no avail. It's a three nil defeat

 Important that we avoid the Forest outcome, which I feel likely to happen soon.

Goal difference is just about in our favour at the moment...got to keep it respectable. Here's hoping  :badmood:

Yes you can. I don't have advance tickets either. STFC Box office told me our allocation is something silly like 3,000 and we only sold 1,000 up front so you won't have any issues apparently... :-)

7-1 is only 150-1 ffs. You can even get 8-0 for 500-1. I have gone for my Jonny Douglas 3-2 combo to us  (again).
Please score JD

WIN WIN WIN WIN WIN

I am inclined to totally agree with that statement, this is the corresponding weekend to the Forest defeat weekend too.

Over the last two season I believe we are 6-0 up on aggregate. :)

Unfortunately that could well be 6-6 after today :(

Not going, and expecting bad news at 10 to 5

Everybody can except you

Shame its not on tv,our lot might be more up for it.3-1 Soton with a late JPM consolation,and Ritchie to get dog's abuse.

To be fair the Saints fans didn't lay into Ritchie too much last season, I know he wasn't on the pitch that long but I was expecting a mountain of abuse for him.....going to be different this year I think!

3-0 to the saints. i've had this one written off for a while. I'd love a draw, preferably with goals for us to get a bit of confidence, and fault free wondergoals by them.

I'd love for us to sneak a point today, but won't be too disappointed if we don't.

Pleased with the signing of Grella, got a feeling he'll end the season as our top scorer.

3-1 Saints. Cant see anything other than a comfortable mullering.

4-0 to them or a smash 'n' grab 1-0 to us. Can't see it being anything else!

Play well for 70 minutes, hold our own and have a couple of chances. Then they score 3 in the last 20 minutes.

A dominant display which will see us win 2-0.

Our last points of the season, hello L2!

5 nil to saints

1-0, Obika

Tans also reads the Sun, and Wears a Wig. Last night I did'nt recognise him in mens clothes!

Anything today will be a bonus.

Let's just hope that those around us have bad days.

Fucking hell.....A start for Ferry......

Swindon Town: David Lucas; Paul Caddis, Andy Frampton, Scott Cuthbert, Michael Rose; Jon-Paul McGovern, Jonathan Douglas, Simon Ferry; Matt Ritchie, Jonathan Obika, Mike Grella

Substitutes: Phil Smith (GK), Aden Flint, Alan O'Brien, Billy Bodin, Kevin Amankwaah, David Prutton, Michael Timlin

The videos have done the trick

Good news. Other than Rose that's the 11 I would have picked.

Is Sheehan injured?

I've come on holiday by mistake. Anybody got a spare world log in I can pinch for a few hours

Like the look of that team, our best 11 from what's available IMHO.

I think you are probably right.

I just hope that if the result doesn't go our way today, that DW doesn't change it for the next game just for the sake of it

I'd have Sheehan and Manks on, but we've all been clamouring for this midfield set up so lets hope it works.

Fucking hell, that Southampton bench is strong. 4 of the 7 would walk into our side, if they don't go up then I would be surprised.

I have a good feeling about this match for some reason.

Come on Town.

I can't see anything but a defeat!

But COYR anyway

aghhh! multiball. We'll lose.

Uddersfield beating Orient already

We will win this!

I've got a tenner on Swindon at 8 times the money back.

I also should have £100 on Bodin not getting on

Douglas shot blocked, good move from Grella and Ferry.

A lot of money to risk, to only win a £1 ;)

Plymouth 1 up over ColU - Fallon

True :D

Agreed.

Pox 1 nil down

Let off after a Rose fluff!

Lambert hits the post after fuck up by Rose

We need luck like that if we're gonna avoid getting dicked.

Rose really is rubbish.

FFS

Shite.

Boom

Oh dear, that's the first of many I think.

OH bollocks

Cock

Gonna be a long afternoon ahead.

No shit?

I thought Danny Wilson was God and our Saviour??

Can't see us getting anything now. Just keep the score down lads!  :cry:

Yusssssssssssssss you Saints

Wovers 1-0 down

Rovers 1 nil down- Gary Alexander

Exeter 1 nil down

Off the post again.

Southampton hit the post again

Soton hit the post again

And they hit our post...again...

Did someone hit the post?

Alexander,Fallon,Monkhouse......our old boys score every week!

Yeah, bloody Franchise did. Unfortunately they scored from the rebound

yeah...cuthbert!

Barry Corr now scores for the ressies...

And Monkhouse scores a second goal for the Monkey Hangers

Why do Sky employ Dean Windass? He's a fucking cock.

Someone remind me why we do this every week?

If we still had Corr and Monkhouse they'd be the best players in our side

Grella sounds like a bit of a headless chicken.

What, sit at home watching the TV?

Probably because it's where I live, an the alternative is a 7 or 8 hour round trip to watch Town lose another game ;)

Its marginally better than shopping with the Mrs.

Douglas shoots!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Douglas hits it"

Not words that fill me with confidence!

FFS Douglas-DONT SHOOT!!

And doesn't score....again !!!

On a positive note, my frozen pizza is nearly cooked.

Contradiction in terms.

He's our very own John Jensen. Bar the Euro championship winning goal.

If we can keep it at 1-0, there's always a chance (even if it's unlikely) to nick a goal & get a point

Douglas shoots more blanks that Boycie out of OFAH !!!

Did you work that out yourself posh?

Too much Faxe beer?

No, I got a PM from the resident forum genius to tell me that being only one goal down meant that we only needed one goal to get back level :)

Handy ain't he, that forum genius!

Anyone said Wilson Out or gone off on one yet? Doesn't seem like a match thread otherwise :)

Yeah, pity he doesn't concentrate on picking a winning team instead

Always going to be up against it today i suppose.

Sounds like we've been giving the ball away a lot at the back which is a bit of a worry.

Still, not out of it yet by any means.

We're still above the relegation zone at least.

Still not sounding threatening though, even on the counter.

Daggers winning . Back in the relegation zone we go.

My fault.

Ball now scores for Peterboro'

Daggers 1 1 now :)

Yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssss. Get the fuck in.

1400 Town fans :clap:

GET IN THERE!

GET THE FUCK IN

COME ON!

OH YES FOR THE SCUMMER!!!

Get in there!!!!!!

That's a bit early boys.

So now what, do we try & hold on to what we have, or try & nick another goal?

Ritchie equalises, get in!

Now for a winner....

yay

CCOooooooooooooooooommmmme ooooon youuuuuuuuuuuuuu reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeds

Let's go for it.  3 points would be more of a +ve than 0 would be a -ve today.

COYR

As long as their Leigh Barnard is as good as ours was.

Town on top-come on!

we go for the win, we have to

well that didn't last long

Bollocks. Cunt fucks. Fat fucking Lambert.

Lucas at fault?

We're long overdue a result.  Let it be today.

Smith would have saved it.

oh fuck-fatso scores.Fucking Rose!

Ffs :(

Fucking hell...Fat Boy Lambert

3-1.

I'm off.

Game over 3- 1. FUCK OFF YOU FUCKING CUNT FUCKS.

FFS

Just got back in from Swimming and they score. cunts.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

we'll never play them again.

Bollocks. Game over. :crash:

:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

3-1.

I was loving the optimism from many earlier, but couldn't see us getting anything. Glad I didn't go.

Oh shit they scored two. Fucks sake. I got in ooh it's 1-1 and by the time I post anything we're 3-1 down.

ARGHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Prutton coming on.  ::)

Lucas what the fuck are you doing. Individual fucking errors time after time after time.

Useless fucking cunts, i decided to not listen to this game and then i heard we equalise so i stick the radio on  :no: never again!!

???

3-1 down, bring on Prutton - yeeeeah why?

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Prutton-WHY?

Because we've been fucking winning when he hasn't been playing haven't we.

What does he offer?

Hate football.

still time for us to win 4 -3

Well we know who's at fault then don't we

Stop. Bodin time.

Yeah-and he's turned round so many games hasn't he?

Bringing on Bodin, yeeeah just a week too fucking late.

No co-incidence we play him away but not at home?

:hmmm:

Bodin for RITCHIE.

Erm, er,OK then.

What has McGovern offered this season? What has any player offered this season.

And AOB for Obiyka

9 points from the next 3 very winnable games. That's our only hope of staying up.

Sadly, I think you're right.

Presumably the fact we were not expected to win this game will save Wilsons skin for another week. Fucking hell, I hope they go and tonk us 7 or 8-1 now so at least the prick has to resign.

I don't. I've got 3-1 in the prediction league.

More than Prutton.

Wasn't it you who said Wilson should stay here next season?

No wonder you are defending his subs.

Have I got this right?Soton get their third 10 seconds after we restart after their second.

I have no idea how Obika is playing what so ever but I do think its stupid to take off a striker when you are 3-1 down in a must win game?

Thank God I didn't bet!!

That's BS.

It was at least 20 seconds.

It doesn't matter who Wilson puts on, what system he plays etc. We're going to lose.

Plymouth are winning again. Yeovil are winning and will be 5 points above us if nothing changes..
 
Perhaps we should try not paying our players to  motivate them.

Plymouth are winning 2-1

wahey Grella injured now.


No, but at least have a fucking go.

Thank fuck for that-for a minute I thought we were incompetent!

Plymouth and yeovil winning now... :(

Yeovil winning - a gap opening up above us now.

funny how people can slate players and decisons whilst watching their pc's.
we were always going to lose today.
i had 3 bets on the horses.2 winners and a e/w placed.happy fucking days.
bollocks to the football.
looking forward to a curry,a few beers and the mrs putting out in style.yee haa!!!!!

Yeovil scores. They got two games in hand and we are 5 points a drift from them. Looks like it's the bottom 5 for the 4 relegation places now!!

I honestly don't think it matters what he tries.

McGovern has been shite this season.

What do you want Wilson to do. He doesn't bring anyone on (why isn't he changing things) he tries to change things (why's he bringing on Prutton).

Wilson has made mistakes this season, never said he hasn't.

I could be on the fucking moon and still know taking off a striker when you are 3-1 down is fucking stupid.

Why the bloody fuck does every player that comes in the door at STFC get injured!!?!

Where is Dick Mackey when we need him??

People have smartphones nowadays.

What you on about-no one's slating anyone's individual performance today.

Don't forget that they have managed to get Swindon to the top of the Premiership on Football Manager, and are therefore qualified today that we have played rubbish without even seeing the game.

This is starting to seem a bit hopeless....  There's more to this run than tactics, subs etc.  The players need an almighty size ten up the arse, and as Danny Wilson is only a size eight I'm beginning to wonder if he's the right man for the job....

On paper, this squad is considerably better than the league would suggest.  As a biased fan, you have to believe that a lucky result in our favour would revamp our season (I'm not going to use the word "kickstart"), but the Charlton result should have been the catalyst and it clearly wasn't.

You'll never guess who just scored for Burnley.

Jack Cork?

Damn you and your SKy Sports.

BBC site says Cork

Jack Cork?

Ok you all guessed who score for Burnley.

Bournemouth score in the 88th minute.

Some good news then

A crumb of comfort!

At last, some fucking good news

He has been shite, but still offered more than Prutton.

Every time Prutton is on the bench he brings him on, he offers absolutely nothing and you are the first Swindon fan I have seen who doesn't mind him coming on. As I asked before, what does Prutton offer?

Beginning?

have you been in a coma?

long hair!

poor mans Miglioranzi.

Ok, maybe not that bad....

I thought Prutton did alright against Carlisle

It's been said a thousand times before, but as opposed to?  Alex Ferguson would struggle to pull us out of this nosedive.

The last time we things seemed so dire were those infamous 7 games under Andy King before we nicked a win at home to Mansfield and ultimately he turned it round, and eventually took us to the playoffs.  At least now the club is being run properly and we've got a good squad, shame they don't know how to play together.

Fuck, Orient have equalised at Huddersfield screwing up my accumulator.

You need to change things when things arn't going right. Didn't he set up the equaliser against Rochdale?

This thread is turning into an exact replica of the last 10

Its as if its all linked to the result.

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*32

It's a bit less angry than usual - giving up?

Anyone, really.

Sir Alex wouldnt have got us into this nose dive to start with.

Is it over yet?

4-1

 :clap:

4-1. FFS.Cunts can't even lose right. That fucked my prediction league.

fuck sake, I had 3-1 in the prediction league.

nope, 4-1

It's been over for ages.

It is now

He had United in a nosedive in 1986 :-|

I'm completely exasperated with Swindon.  I live fairly locally to Southampton, and I'm going to Portsmouth tomorrow to see my sister, and ordinally I'd have tied it in with a trip to see the town, but I couldn't face wasting £40 on watching us get dicked.

Pfffffffftttt.... 4-1.  Says it all.

At least Oxford are losing 2-0. In the grand scheme of things it is important they don't leapfrog us.

Another night to stay away from the TEF, either that or clear out all sharpe objects from the house

I must have missed Manchester United relegation in 86.

all done. fuck off, die, bastard, cunts

FT - Good night STFC

Fair point (or no pointsin our case)

I blame Ritchie again, I told you he scored too early :D

We're not relegated....  yet.

Shit result obviously, but it doesn't change anything.

We know Saints are better than us at the moment and likely to win today. We won't be staying up or going down based on not picking up points at Saint Mary's.

Next 3 games will decide our season. 7 points minimum needed I fear.

Yes we are.

Oh dear, we are doomed aren't we?

The only comfort we have is that we are still out the bottom 4, if we don't win net week, we are certinally down imo.

Lets just hope those around us keep losing, just about our only hope.

I hope you don't expect history to repeats itself with DW. Can you see him leading Swindon Town into Champions League in 25 years time?

Game over.

Another leaky fucking defensive game. OK Saints are a good team, but it is totally and utterly unacceptable to concede 3 or 4 on the road week in, week out.

I am completely fucked off with it. The players need to man the fuck up. Stop feeling sorry for themselves and give every fucking ounce of effort, blood, sweat an tears for the fucking cause.

The amount of goals we have conceded should be a professional embarrassment to everbody involved in the club.

Lastly, Milan Misun. Why?

Howso?

He plays for Leeds dont he?

was it the same Saints-side that drew Hartlepool 0-0 last week?

Where is he? Haven't seen him in any training pictures and he's still not on the squad list on the OS. Nor he has got a squad number.

Has he gone to Milan?

Of course....  If you look at successful clubs down the leagues, those without massive financial backing have achieve relative success through managerial stability.

As a group of supporters, we don't seem happy unless we're campaigning for a new manager.  The current run is unacceptable, but I don't think giving Wilson the boot would help our current predicament, especially not at the current time.  Fortunately, Fitton isn't an idiot, and I can't see any changes being made until the summer.

As has been said, today's result changes fuck all.  We're not in the bottom four, we've got some winnable games left, it's by no means curtains.  There's fifteen games, and 45 points up for grabs.

We havent won in 11 games, there are no winnable games.

managerial stability is good with a good manager, not with a shit one.

Injured. Seems we wanted to save the effort of players getting themselves injured and went for a ready crocked one instead.

You're fucking deluded.

There are some men in white coats here looking for you.

You can't seriously be referring to Wilson as shit.  His success at Barnsley and getting us to the playoffs last season (sorry to mention it) demonstrates this.

I concede something is obviously very wrong, but the blame for me doesn't lie at wholly Wilson's door.

I'm very unhappy with our current run, but if Wilson leaves who will want to take on the mantel?  We'll end up with another Malpas, definitely get relegated, and be in a far worse position this time next year.

I'm sure it has nothing to do with it but we've had shit loads of injuries this season, the season directly after we get a new physio to replace good old dick!

This is stupid. Something has got to give ? I can't remember a time where we lost so many games.

Agreed. A relegation will lead to instability though. Wilson will not survive that.


Whilst technically true what has changed for me is the transfer window. I don't know who is responsible but we didn't get what we needed after losing Austin.

Just got back from the game (live in soton and left at 3-1)

First half we played wank and couldnt string 2 passes together.

Second half we came out well and deserved equalier.

Then conceded two sloppy goals and that was that.

Dont know who are defensive coach is but they need sacking.

Frampton is a bag of shit too.

Ritchie impressed me again.

Worrying thing is that their is no togetherness in the team and when a player was on the ball, no players busted a gut to support the other player.

Still think we are going down unless we replace Wilson, but hey ho, it appears hes here till the end of season

Your right its not just Wilson's fault. The player's have to shoulder a majority of the blame too.I would be hard pushed to think of a worthy winner for player of the season at the moment because they are average at best and no one is consistantly performing well.

Piss kidney

I think it's conceivable we wont win again this season....this is the least competitive squad at this level since its formation in 1958....today was slightly better than expected, insofar as many sound judges were expecting 6 or 7.

So who can think of a way out then?

My contribution - allow a group of 5 or so fans into the dressing room to do the half time team talks.

Grow some bollocks STFC Board take your head out of the sand and sack Wilson.... D2 is fast approaching unless you act this shambles is getting worse,
Face facts we havent won in 11 games this is going to turn round

I really don't know what the problem is ? Is it Wilson is it the players maybe its about time some one went public with what the hell is going on at the club. Maybe then we can understand why we are so lack luster at the moment.

I don't think there is a way out....we've got the wrong players for what we need to do. These players will need to be cleared out and a fresh squad built for league 2 next season.

Seems so. A defence built on sand, an attack made of balsa wood. Hence why I am annoyed about transfer window acquisitions.

As far as I know the board have tried everything. The only thing I can think of is putting Wilson on Gardening leave and replacing him with a new manager and give him until the end of the season to save us. If he does he keeps the job.

So where does the fact that he couldn't keep Franchise Dons in League One and got relegated to League Two with them come into the picture??

Now he's the manager of a free fallin' League One team, just as when at MK Fuckin' Dons. Not in the Championship looking for promotion as when at Barnsley.

Get a grip, Walrus!

Has Wilson done his interview yet? I went to the shops.

I cant, but the only roll of the dice we have left is to sack Wilson, isnt it?

Football is a results based business .....  Wilson regardless of last season has been given more than enough time to turn it round and has clearly failed, fed up listening to the excuses.
The board also needs to answer for its transfer policy which since Paynter departure has been very questionable .... not replacing Greer, Paynters experience and overwhelmingly bringing in development projects. Bring Johnson until the end of the season give him a chance to keep us up

We have a bunch of players who are nowhere near as good as they,or Wilson, think they are.The one honest,hard-working pro with the right attitude we possess is Timlin.If the so-called more talented players had his application we'd be a lot better off

I am so bored of the names Greer and Paynter!

Swindon rejects are scoring goals for fun all around the league. How come they don't scored for Swindon?

Would you stop being so pointless!

because they dont play for us?

The games left:

at 5    15:00    H   Walsall    FL1                       
Tue 8    19:45    A   Plymouth    FL1                       
Sat 12    15:00    H   Dagenham & R    FL1                       
Sat 19    15:00    A   Huddersfield    FL1                       
Sat 26    13:00    A   Brighton    FL1                       
Tue 29    19:45    A   Exeter City    FL1                       
Sat 2    15:00    H   Hartlepool    FL1                       
Sat 9    15:00    A   Brentford    FL1                       
Sat 16    15:00    H   Franchise    FL1                       
Sat 23    15:00    H   Notts County    FL1                       
Mon 25    15:00    A   Sheffield Wed    FL1                       
Sat 30    15:00    H   Oldham    FL1                       
Sat 7    15:00    A   Tranmere

I can't see 20 points from this, sorry. 13-15 at most.

We need three points at home to WALSALL, DAG & RED and HARTLEPOOL or else we are screwed. Now that's a fact!

Has DW spoke to the media yet?

Where are you guys?

Is that Hilary you're referring to? I wouldn't want to take her on. There's something about the eyes that weirds me out a bit. Good books though.

Yes he has. Didn't say a lot. We are watching the rugby.Except the ones who aren't.

because he did such a great job at Peterborough didn't he.

Whether Wilson is or isn't the right man for the job is questionable, but don't for one minute think there is a manager out there (in our price range) that comes with a guarantee

What about Andy King?

I want Gary Johnson now, the only decent realistic person to take over.  If we can't have GJ then I would rather stick with Wilson as we won't get a better caliber of manager in Lge 2 and will end up with Trollope.  At least Wilson will have something to prove.

GJ didn't do well at boro because of the relationship that he had with the chairman, and he was always going to be on a hiding to nothing after what Ferguson achieved there.

He left them in 7th in league one, id take that for us!

I'd do the job on the cheap and I'd keep us up.

And alienate the fans, media and players in the process

Only news I want to hear is that the board have reluctantly agreed to terminate DW's contract, and that Paul Bodin has agreed to take over while negotiations are completed to get Luc to leave Qatar........but I have had quite a bit of beer and brandy this afternoon!

Why the hell anyone wants either a man with no experience or a man with no clue about the english game since the early nineties is beyond me.

Just got back. Thanks to leefer and Boo for the good company. We had a good spell 10-15 mins into the second half where we scored and I honestly thought, keep going like this and we can win it. Alas it wasn't to be, they got the their second then third, our heads dropped and that was it, game over

The beer was really cheap in Wetherspoon's, I was shocked. Good day out, crap result

Oh forgot to add, Ritchie scored our goal, was one of our better players, why oh why take him off Danny?

Wilson's got LOTS of experience - let's stick with him!

I agree if we are going down!  If the board decides we actually do have a chance of staying up then Bodin or Niholt is a step backwards.

TBH I don't give a toss who's in charge aslong as he keeps us up!!!!!

I find it impossible to disagree with this remark.

Although I would rather see a bit more of Megan Fox, she's a lot prettier than Danny.

She might even get some of the team up for it a well!

If thats the price for survival, then so be it!!!

Survival > Everything else

Of course we have a chance of staying up, but we need a few wins. The players are capable of playing some good stuff, but it needs to be sustained over 90 mins not just 15

Just back.

 Very despondent but the Sharp's Ales (as reccomended by another poster on here) on the train across prepared me for the inevitable and the few cans on the return journey numbed me temporarily from the reality that we're doomed.

 In the immediate aftermath of our equaliser we looked like a team possessed with belief but then the cruel sucker-punch, but to be fair at the interval thay could easily have been 3 up. Chamberlain, whilst not justifying his outlandish valuations in the transfer window, looks a geuine future talent. Dispensed my free drinks vouchers in Que Pasa after the game to a lucky dozen Town fans  :beers: Not a total waste then  :smugfu:

 

We need more than a few wins....football is a simple game, our side isn't capable of doing these simple things, therefore will be relegated. The main question for the remainder of the season, is will Plymuff have enough about them to pip us for the wooden spoon.  Today they won a game, with 10 men....which shows they have some fighting spirit left...can you imagine our spineless shower doing that?

Apart from 3 games, we've got a good run in. *

* on paper    :yay:

6 wins 3 draws 4 defeats needed from the last 13 games.

Im confident we will get the 4 defeats !

Our next three games are vital. No losses, no draws, just 9 points from 9. Then we go into the Huddersfield and Brighton games on decent form. After that another vital 3 winnable games followed by back to back home games against Franchise and Notts.

Sigh.  :no:

There is no way Wilson can turn this round. He's had ample opportunity, he's tried everything available to him and we're in total freefall.

Sacking him and letting Bodin take charge would be a better option right now. We might not stay up but nothing could be worse than the incumbent.

I dont think any of our games are winnable at the moment.

What is this obsession with Paul fucking Bodin? Christ almighty!

Not Bodin specifically, just anyone who isn't Wilson really...

I must have Bodin on the brain thanks to NorwayRed

Any appointment would have to be external.

It's all hypothetical anyhow.

Why?

And since when were discussions on here anything but hypothetical?

Was a good player, doing a good job at youth level but not sure as 1st team manager.

Look what happened when Iffy took over.

Look what is happening with Wilson in charge at the moment.

Okay, Bodin was a bad suggestion. But right now I think anyone could do a better job, hell, I'd even back DV for the job.

You think the majority would be happy if Shirtliff or Bodin took over?

For me, an internal appointment within our scenario is the ultimate indicator of a club resigned to League Two.

I write this fully aware that we're "down anyway so blah blah blah"....

I cant speak for everyone but I'd be happy with anyone who isnt called Danny Wilson.

DV would do a good job. He could get his race to 52 thread projected on the changing room wall and everything!

What about it DV?

Possibly Bodin might have more idea about how to defend than Shirtliff seems to have. Probably wouldn't make any difference though.

C'mooooon, really? You'd be happy if the club replaced Wilson with a current backroom staff member?

If I were in Wilson's shoes i'd have had it on the changing room wall since November, including current form, remaining fixtures and a projected final table.

I also like to think Wilson has already stolen in

Its a better effort that his stupid board anyway!

Yes.

I'd be happy if they replaced Danny Wilson with a Honey Badger.

DV would need an experienced man alongside him, I know what about Reg? He could tell them how they've been the most inadequate Swindon team at this level for 50 years.

Considering Shirtliff was a defender himself you'd think he'd know a thing or two...

Anyway it's not as simple as bad defensive coaching. The whole fucking team is fucked

It'd get a bit of fight into the team...

Sounds about right!

not long back...now I don't wanna be negative BUT....when wilson threw the towel in at 3-1 by taking ritchie off, I felt like leaving there and then after shelling out 24notes to get in...even heard him say the game was dead at 3-1(despite there being still half hour left) in his post match interview on the A34...so if thats the attitude thats comin across from the manager, its no fucking wonder we aint cutting it on the pitch...that is all

Taking off Ritchie who was our only attacking threat and replacing him with Bodin who looking out of his depth was DW's worst subsitution of the season, that is saying something.

Not the best of roads to be listening to his interview on. I'm still struggling to understand why he took Ritchie off?

All our forwards look out of their depth, there's just no service

What was Grella like?

I don't think even houdini can get us out of this one the players and staff look resigned to it nothing less than 20 points will keep us up and I just cannot see us putting back to back wins together . Surely it is too late for anyone else to come in and save us now the only reasoning for changing now would be to build for league 2 next year

Probably thought the game was over and wanted him to be injury free for our next three games.

But again Wilson doesn't help himself when he makes decisions like this, I think he could have kept him on tbh.

Because if you had read last weeks match day thread you would have realised that Bodin is our  new saviour.

Actually that's not quite true, he was last weeks saviour and Wilson missed the boat.
This weeks saviour is Gary Johnson

Wilson said Grella was 'fantastic', is this complete bollocks?

No thanks, Reg can do one...

Jesus!

Half of you cunts on here have been moaning at Wilson for not putting Bodin on. In my opinion he was completly out of his depth and the substitution was purely an excercise in attempting to placate our shit fans.

And this is from somebody who was actually there rather than moaning about the teams ineptitude from behind his PC.

No, he has been our best chance since he left Boro about 5 weeks ago.

Well done, you're the best fan

Grella was pretty good in the 1st half and tired towards the end

Hello everyone.

Surely you can do better than that?

Pretty much, that's not to say Grella had a bad game he just wasnt that involved.  Few nice touches but didnt pose a goal threat although you could say that about anyone not named Ritchie.

Obika was utter toss i thought.

You don't need to be at every game to know we are shit, every home game and a scattering of away games has already told me that!

I do feel that you should get some kind of reward for travelling to a game though, I bow down to you! :notworthy:

Respect your elders  :D

bodin wont want the job.
i think wilson will get till this time next week.if we dont beat walsall then bye bye.
we still could stay up,but only if wilson has gone.
fitton has fucked up royally this season too.clueless but wealthy.....

I honestly can't see him being here beyond this season whatever happens. I think he knows it aswell.

Probably not.

but surely you can do better than the tired old "I was there, you weren't" bollocks?

Every week we say that he'll get till the next game though, it has been the same story for about 6 weeks now.  Too little too late I'm afraid, and if the board use their transfer policy when it comes to getting a new manager in we will be stuck with Trollope.  They seem to struggle when it comes to bringing in experience, back to the Malpas days methinks.

of course he's overstayed his welcome,but if he goes there is still hope.
none if he stays

Would've headed for Wethers on the High Street but I cut it too fine.

If Wilson is here next season then Fitton isn't doing his job properly and questions will be asked.

There are not many other clubs who would stick with their manager after a 11 match winless streak. Even Wilson himself must be wondering how he is still here.

There was an interview with him on Points West the other day and he said 'there's not alot wrong'.  ???

But who we bring in is massive and shows the ambitions of the board.  If they bring in an experienced Lge 1 or above manager then it shows intent to improve whether we go down or not.  If they go for a cheap option then it shows that they have given up on the 5 year plan.

Getting rid of Wilson and bringing in a Malpas esq type manager is a backward step IMO.

I hope Wilson has been regularly getting his lottery numbers recently because he must know he has been a lucky, lucky bastard!

I'll be staggered if he's still here. His contract is up and I can't see it getting renewed.

I'd even take Trollope right about now!

You do realise, these days are actually worse than the Malpas days!

Apart from the first 10 minutes of the 2nd half we were fucking woeful. Lucas was dogshit and at fault for at least 2 of the goals. Rose is the worst full back i can remember and that includes Drysdale, Cobian, Duke and Heiselberg. Frampton was complete bollocks and is slower than an upside down tortoise. Caddis and Cuthbert were less shit than the other 2. JPM was blowing out of his arse after 5 minutes. The midfield was non existent - Dougie was shit and so was Ferry. Ritchie was the pick of the bunch. Obika looked out of his depth and Grella ran and ran - all over the midfield where he had to come deep to get the ball.
We had players yet again hiding in midfield and the movement was shite.
On the positive side we had good support down there. the fans got behind the team really well until the end when there were a few Wilson out chants but I think most of the fans have resigned themselves to relegation and couldn't be arsed.
On another positive side the park and ride was brilliant - well organised and friendly.
The Soton fans were absolute shit and the ground is a souless, sterile bowl.
Not sure what went on in the executive boxes but it looks like some Town fans had succesfully woken up a few Saints fans.  

He simply has to go. If he stays (and we stay up) then he needs to be given a considerable amount of money, otherwise we are in for a similar season. That said, I don't think I would trust him with too much money...

It's hard to believe he hasn't been sacked already. If a defeat/draw on Saturday doesn't force the board into action then I don't know what will.

In terms of the results I agree, not in terms of the performances and quality of team and signings though!  I felt more depressed at the end of the Malpas days than I still do now.  We wouldn't have even been in the hat to sign players like Douglas, Ritchie, Cuthbert, Ward or Ferry when Malpas was in charge, irrelevant of the form that they are in at the moment.

I thought our fans were actually pretty good today. I'm not sure that Saints had any fans there at all, if they did they were pretty quiet

how the hell can billy bodin have an effect in a struggling team at 3-1 down.
messi would fucking struggle in that sistuation.
no way can you judge a player like that.

Agree

the fact that the performances and quality of the team are better but the results are worse says everything that needs to be said about Wilson.

As I've said in other threads. Malpas/Wilsons saving grace that season was the best striker in the division who was capable of winning games for us.

Not judging but the facts are that in 20 mins or so he had about 2 touches and showed no attacking threat and looked very lightweight.

I'd never have a go at a young hope for the future but in this situation his cameo proved that now is probably not the time to be chucking in lightweight unproven kids.

I'm not sure that was the intended point. The point was the fans have been calling for Bodin, expecting him to have some crazy impact and he hasn't, ergo the fans aren't always right.

OK, still doesn't change my opinion that we were in a worse state at the end of the Malpas days than we are now.  The only problem is we have less/no time to do anything about it this time around.  We have better players for a new manager to work with than when Wilson came in with the Malpas squad.

As opposed to lightweight experienced pros who are completely shot to fucking pieces.

Can't comment on his performance, but that image just made me laugh at least

He isn't a bad manager but he's had a shocking season. Again not all his fault, players have to take responsibility for the countless individual errors that have cost us this season.

But Wilson himself especially in the transfer market has been poor. The likes of Dossevi, Rose, Ball, Frampton haven't worked. Prutton is a decent signing at this level but has found it increasingly hard to perform on a regular basis.

The likes of Lucas, Dougie, Cuthbert (possibly because he's without an experienced player alongside him) and McGovern have looked half the players they were last season.

The biggest problem we've had this season is at the back. Selling Greer was the single biggest mistake this club has made  this season, to put it simply, if Greer was still here we wouldn't be where we are at the minute. The way we have been conceding goals this season has been nothing short of pathetic. You build from the back, since the inception of football the successful sides are the ones who are good at defending. You go from there, build a solid base then once your steady at the back you start to create chances up front. It gives the whole team confidence when your keeping clean sheets.

Selling your captain, your leader, your most important defender for 250k when there wasn't a player there to replace him is just pure naivety and has cost us big time. That was the boards call not Wilson's. Lets not forget that.

Yeah, most people thought it was good business in July.

Yes, although most fairly assumed that a replacement was imminent!

Everyone thought a replacement was forthcoming. Morrison and Cuthbert are two very promising defenders, but are very young and inexperienced. Positionally they are very naiive and needed somebody with a bit of experience alongside them. Look at Cuthbert next to Greer last season, he was exceptional. This season he's been torn to shreds.

No need to tell me about how big a loss Greer was. If I remember correctly I was pretty against his sale back in July.

Alot of people thought there would be better out there for free. I said at the time if there was, Brighton would have gone for them instead of paying us cash.

Think someone said it was because Brighton dont have a good scouting network, hmmm yeah

I'm not knocking the board because they have saved the club I love and invested off the pitch with all the marketing and have backed Wilson, for this there is no question but selling Greer when there isn't a lot of players of his like around was a huge mistake.

Agree arriba.....just back......for me today was the lowest of the low.

Saints did'nt need to up a gear....our front play was non existant.

Douglas worked hard...at centre half for most of the time.

Ritchie took his goal well..then got took off,not going to diss Wilson because his hands have been tied.

Nice to see Samdy,.....looked trimmer than i last saw him,Fred and Steve H.

Apologies to Donkey....nice to have a beer with you but excuse the rambling.

Good away day but i would swap it all for three points and a cuppa cocoa.

I was very amused by the prick behind me slating Douglas the whole game.
League one or two
I'm gonna watch the town regardless

Fucking shit.

Can people stop going on about Gordon fucking Greer??
The way some of the people on this forum go on about him you'd think he was the fucking messiah!

He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy!

Nah, he was just our captain and leader last season ::)

 :-[

I appreciate that, but he's in the past and is a gayer now

Yes, but we are trying to explain why our season has gone so horrible wrong. In order to do that we have to look back and things that happen after last season but before now, which is the past, no way around it.

Plus, I'll take any opportunity to say I fucking told you so, in July.

It wasn't just you DV. Who would want to be right about that anyway?

And you do regularly and it get's fucking boring!  You weren't the only one but it seems you want a fucking round of applause! :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: There you go!

We are not trying to explain why our season has gone so horribly wrong as it has been done in many threads not to mention every match day thread for the last 3 months, i think we all understand what has gone wrong by now!

Fuck me DV, I have met you numerous times and you seem like a decent bloke away from your keyboard, but you do really come across like you think you walk on water once you get a keyboard in front of you.

And don't do the usual reaction once somebody else has opinion like spouting "oh I'm sorry I'm not allowed to say that because I might upset somebody" "I can't say that because i might be right about something", you usually are right DV because you talk sense but stop being so bloody condescending man!  Yours is not the only opinion that counts on here, there are some other posters that have been there and done it and got the certificates too, they just don't shout about it as much!

You are the TEF special one for sure!  ;D

I wouldn't say I know football the best but I'd say I'm in the top one.

:D

We have had DV, and Dave, I think it's about time that somebody changes the name to Jose! Come on Mods, make it happen!

Good man DV!

It was a good day out apart from the football.

Its a shame our defence has a bigger hole than Jordan

I'd prefer DVinho myself.

DValpas

Joses reaction to being offer the Swindon job

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Absolutely piss poor apart from 10 minutes in the second half. Their second and third goals absolutely killed any belief, momentum and desire we had, and the match was all but over, resulting in a pretty uneventful and boring last half hour. Conceding the fourth did it for me though, in a season where a good goal difference is looking increasingly necessary, we just cant hold on for a few simple minutes and give away a fourth.

As for the players, Ritchie by far our best player, but only because the other 10 were absolute dogshit. Lucas was poor, Rose offers us fucking nothing but a hoof up field, more often than not resulting in an opposition throwing and, however much of a talker or leader he's said to be, Frampton is slow, weak and consistently a liability. The midfield was non-existent, forcing Grella, our STRIKER, to virtually come into the MIDFIELD and very deep positions to collect the ball. Yes, the likes of Ferry and Douglas huffed and puffed, but they were completely fucking out of their depth today. Oh, and however glad i am that Douglas is now starting to shoot from long-range and often potential scoring positions, I fucking wish he would get a god damn shot on fucking target. Was Obika even playing?!

Now to Wilson. Bollocks substitutions once again. Taking off our BEST player in Ritchie and replacing him with Bodin? Really?! Bringing Prutton on in right midfield AGAIN?! I know he's not gonna go now, but there were calls for his head today, the first time I've really noticed chants of "we want Wilson out".

Never expected a result, a performance would've be nice. Instead we were treated to defensive mistakes, gutless players and a performance not even worthy of winning a League Two match. Next three games are FUCKING VITAL. Nine points out of nine or we're down. It's the morning fucking after and I'm still majorly pissed off.

The highlight of my day was getting a kiss from Fred.

The sooner he goes back to millwall the better i hope we dont sign him at the end of the season. i think milan misun will be a player for next season, but should get few in before the end of this, he is highly rated lets hope he can get a run in the team, and form a good partnership with cuthburt or if hes gone, flint who hasnt put afoot wrong and has made a big step up in his carrer.

Spot on though i thought Douglas played well...even if he was miles to deep.
Ritchie did ok and scored a fine goal.

 :clap:  Yay! The Special one has arrived! :notworthy:

Oh, so no mention of my groping you then? Nice. Well, you can grope yourself in future

And boy is he "special" :)

You were too rough with me, fred is nice and gentle.

You love it rough, don't play coy

Said Hi to Fred, also spotted Samdy and Hertha, but didn't want to bother em

Spent the weekend in Brighton celebrating a friend's birthday.  Keeping a reasonably regular check on the game, got back to 1-1 and oh nipped to the loo and on returning am informed we're 3-1 down.  Depressing, but oh so predicatable.  Can't comment on the game other than secondhand reports from people I know we went, general consensus being we were poor bar 15 minutes or so, defence was shite (again), strikers can't score, no service to strikers and pathetic subs from Wilson again.  Pretty much the same as the last 8 or so games then?

Just to make me feel that little bit more peed off, I had the pleasure of listening to chants of 'BRIGHTON' and 'Going Up, Going Up' whereever we went and nearly punched some bloke who on learning we came from Swindon revelled in telling me just how shit we were, we'd lost 4-1 that day and Gordon Greer is one of the best defenders they've ever had.  It's not like I've got STFC tattooed across my head, so how did he know to pick on me to be the one that would be bothered? 

The next 3 games are vital, but how many times have we said that this season already?  I genuinely don't believe we will win another game with Wilson in charge.  Not only are we now officially the most out of form team in League 1 in terms of point per game, but we are the worst in in the whole of the English Leagues.  Why the hell is Wilson still in a job? 

Yesterday could easily pass as the worst day of my life. Everthing had seemed so simple. Take the missus to her first game so she could see what it was all about, i really wish i never bothered. Had planned on leaving Swindon about 10am but didnt set off until 12.45. Whilst having a shower about 9 suddenly the water went cold and could hear the other half screaming downstairs as if she was being murdered. For reasons i dont know something in the boiler broke and water was pissing out of it. 3 hours later i'm £250 worse off and just needed to go to football to ease the foul mood i was now in. I really should not have bothered. Shocking first half display and the missus predictibably bored, half time was a god send just to get a coffee. The equilazier was the highlight of the day. For that minute or so i felt great, cant remember last time scoring a goal felt so good. At least the missus then understood what it was all about being a football fan.
  I dont need to talk about the rest of the game. Was a long walk back to the car park. Its hard to hold your head high when you appear to be the one person wearing a Town shirt amongst a sea of Saints fans. Pedictable taunting from a few knobbers but nothing compared to what was about to come. Got to the car and blipped it with the key fob. Nothing. Tried again. Nothing. Never mind maybe the keyfob battery dead so entered the car with the key manually. Went to start engine. Nothing. Not even a glimmer from the interior light or the dashboard. Just the faintest of glows from the battery light on the dash. A car park steward comes over and told me he noticed i left my lights on but we had already left so had no way of contacting us. How could i be so stupid? Angry with myself i took it out on him and said something along the lines of you knew i was going to football why not get a stadium announcement?  Despite the best efforts of four Saints fans trying to bump start the car it simply would not fire up. Could the day get any worse? Well frankly yes, The AA didnt have the details of the car i was driving on their systems only my old car as i had not told them. I got an old policy where the car is covered, not the driver. Now they were still happy to come to my resue and update details and change my cover but all for the grand price of £146 paid there and then. In disgust i hung up feeling as low as i ever have done. Starting to get dark not knowing what to do and aware of the numerous signs on the road warning cars left would be towed away and impounded I was running out of options.
 Then something happened that restored my faith in humanity. One of the Saints fans who helped bump start earllier returned in his car announced with jump leads. Within minutes I was back on the road thanks to the goodwill of a rival football fan. WHat was such a bad day on the whole was made better by the kindness of someone who had no reason to help me. I hope one day i can be of help to someone. Defeat against Walsall and thats it as far as i'm concerned. The fat lady is warming her voice for sure.

Going back to the last page,

I had a chat with sutton after the game and he said your all a bunch of cunts and he's stopped posting for a while but he loves you all xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

So that's why you call yourself the grim reaper...has ya Mrs left ya yet?!

Just seen the goals, Awful defending and why don't the players look that bothered when the goals go in?

because they know another one is a few minutes away - they don't exactly have rarity value, do they?

You're all forgetting that dropping smith was the answer to our defensive problems as Lucas shouts more...oh....

I was one of those calling for Lucas to be recalled but I hadn't realised he'd had a hand swap with Nicky Hammond. His voice is still in good nick though

I'm surprised your lad didn't sort him after his star turn at the training day

They just seemed resigned/depressed rather than not bothered IMO. Much like I felt.

i get depressed at work paul, dont mean im allowed to fuck up week in week out

I didn't mean it was an excuse for conceding, just that that was how their response (or lack of) to the goals seemed to me.

Didnt go.....hats off to all of you that did!

Had the car back in time ...but i just couldnt be arsed.....only one of the lads going diect from Reading on the train...so i left it.

Punched the air at 1-1 and turned on the radio...big mistake....just as the dab kicked in...Lambert scored...i turned it off.....and just cringed when the texts came in...

The next three games are going to tell if we go down with a whimper or make a fight of it....

Sadly, I think that's about all we've got left to fight for, and we don't look capable of doing that. Certainly wouldn't want the players to get the message they're playing for pride and self-respect, they've amply demonstrated they have neither

Top Saints fan for doing that!!

Dave Lucas should be embarrassed after that performance. What the hell was he doing?

Unfortunately he wasn't with me, but yes he would probably have had a far better response than my 'F Off'!

I liked Grella's endevour.

That was about it unfortunately. Ritchie did ok and then got taken off. Bemusing.

Fitton told him that if he didn't throw the game then he'd be sleeping with the fishes.

I didn't even see his car

Did you go Park and Ride?

It was there, next to the blue Vectra.

welcome to my world. i get that 7 days a week.

No need to apologise, old boy.  Had a good day until the match started.  Good to meet you and STFCinbnmth.

Hope things are ok with you donkey

Can't remember you rambling leefer

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