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« Reply #3315 on: Friday, May 11, 2018, 22:48:47 »

Yeah, you lost your point with a link to the brussels broadcasting corporation. Give me an unbiased article please.

here you go, that right-wing enough for you?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/05/11/leaveeu-campaign-group-fined-70000-breachingspending-rules-eu/

Think the Mail reported it as well, but you can go slumming it over there if you want
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« Reply #3316 on: Saturday, May 12, 2018, 02:05:56 »

Ha ha, trap sprung, you walked into that one Reg - everyone knows those jobs were lost to Thatcherism Wink

It might expalin why the norveners voted so heavily for Brexit.... nothing to lose. I thought it was because they preferred a no wage economy, their drug habits funded by benefits and petty crime.
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« Reply #3317 on: Saturday, May 12, 2018, 09:40:36 »

Are you sure the paper you read was up to date?  Twinnings tea factory was moved to Poland 6 years ago. All the other jobs largely went before that.

The Andover factory is still going strong.

Some of the production moved to Poland from here but Twinnings is still going strong in my neck of the woods
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« Reply #3318 on: Sunday, May 13, 2018, 00:05:29 »

It might expalin why the norveners voted so heavily for Brexit.... nothing to lose. I thought it was because they preferred a no wage economy, their drug habits funded by benefits and petty crime.

Fucking hell Reg.
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« Reply #3319 on: Sunday, May 13, 2018, 02:16:41 »

Fucking hell Reg.

Sorry Ells, however there is a serious point within the flippancy. Why did the old industrial north and South Wales vote so heavily for Brexit  Hmmm  The paradox is that it's a cry for socialism, but presented by arch capitalists. Jeremy gets it, but many in the party don't.

The global capitalist position is that if Twinnings move to Poland, then the workers of North Shields should move to Poland and compete for work there. Jeremy's position is that as long as we want to drink tea, and the workers of North Shields can put it on the shelves, then why shouldn't they stay near the Tyne. That will need to be fought for...

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« Reply #3320 on: Sunday, May 13, 2018, 13:34:24 »

Pandering won't get the Labour party into power though.  Too much protectionism and they lose the votes in London by and large, and with the SNP controlling the same policy in Scotland they wouldn't win an election.  It would be the 80's all over again.

It's the paradox of modern politics.  Parties seem stuck trying to figure out where the right and left is these days.  You have right wing parties seemingly trying to look like they are a party of the workers!  Cameron's mate who is on Fox over here now seems to be stoking it - which is ironic given his personal position in life is precisely the Elite he seems to cry foul about.  It's like the UK parties ignored the method of Blair and how it delivered a huge majority.  Forget the Iraq war and him going so far up his own arse in he could brush his teeth from the inside, his ability to deliver a message down the middle marginlised that debate on either side.  A little bit of growing an economy will sort out the Unemployment and we probably shouldn't stifle that growth via obvious tax targeting, but while we are at it we will introduce a minimum wage and let new parents have time off work.
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« Reply #3321 on: Sunday, May 13, 2018, 21:14:19 »

I was born in Swindon and have lived my life in a council house, I'm not and never have been a Tory voter obviously. In fact I deplore political extremism of all kinds, as history has shown us the damage caused. That said I rejoyce everytime the Uk Labour communist party loose an election. For 200 years communisium has been kicking around and its worked and never will.What gets me is when people scream about the Nazi far right but love the commies who killed millions for their own self enrichment. Its the year 2018 and politics is far so behind the modern world.
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« Reply #3322 on: Sunday, May 13, 2018, 21:41:27 »

I was born in Swindon and have lived my life in a council house, I'm not and never have been a Tory voter obviously. In fact I deplore political extremism of all kinds, as history has shown us the damage caused. That said I rejoyce everytime the Uk Labour communist party loose an election. For 200 years communisium has been kicking around and its worked and never will.What gets me is when people scream about the Nazi far right but love the commies who killed millions for their own self enrichment. Its the year 2018 and politics is far so behind the modern world.

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« Reply #3323 on: Sunday, May 13, 2018, 22:04:19 »

I was born in Swindon and have lived my life in a council house, I'm not and never have been a Tory voter obviously. In fact I deplore political extremism of all kinds, as history has shown us the damage caused. That said I rejoyce everytime the Uk Labour communist party loose an election. For 200 years communisium has been kicking around and its worked and never will.What gets me is when people scream about the Nazi far right but love the commies who killed millions for their own self enrichment. Its the year 2018 and politics is far so behind the modern world.

True Communism hasn't been tried, a homage to it with the usual Human trait of greed has failed a fair bit though.
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« Reply #3324 on: Monday, May 14, 2018, 10:02:42 »

Fucking hate that saying. True capitalism hasn't been tried either. Neither has true democracy. Pointless statement.
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« Reply #3325 on: Monday, May 14, 2018, 10:12:06 »

It might expalin why the norveners voted so heavily for Brexit.... nothing to lose. I thought it was because they preferred a no wage economy, their drug habits funded by benefits and petty crime.

I am sorry to say, but from personal experience in both the North West and West Yorkshire, the overarching reason that many people voted for Brexit is that they were under the ill-informed impression that it would man fewer brown faces in their towns...

FWIW they have everything to lose, but have been rather duped by those with little to lose and wealthy patrons to keep happy.
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« Reply #3326 on: Monday, May 14, 2018, 10:23:27 »

The global capitalist position is that if Twinnings move to Poland, then the workers of North Shields should move to Poland and compete for work there. Jeremy's position is that as long as we want to drink tea, and the workers of North Shields can put it on the shelves, then why shouldn't they stay near the Tyne. That will need to be fought for...


Twinnings moved from North Shields 8 years ago - factory reopened about 6 years ago as Spicers? whilst Jeremy's plan to take us out of the SM will reduce the competitiveness of the plant to the EU market and thus possibly make things even worse for the merry tea makers of South Tyneside.

On matters of the EU I cannot decide whether Corbyn is a) incredibly ill-informed or b) a downright liar as all his protestations regarding state aid are complete bollocks and actually with his socialist hat on he should actually embrace state aid rules. (it is in no way a barrier to nationalisation or public ownership!)

Sadly I fear he is  anot particularly bright opportunist who can not operate much above student politics levels, hence why May is getting by as Corbyn is betraying his party members (80%+ of whom want to stay in the SM/CU) by facilitating her actions, the big question will be whether momentum manage to prevent a debate on the EU membership at conference again like they did last year...

We have the Tories that cannot even decide in cabinet what they are aiming for, whilst Labour (who like to make a song and dance about members deciding policy) with a leadership ignoring the membership and trying to prevent debate on the issue for fear the leadership loses.

Whilst the EU watches on in despair.....
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« Reply #3327 on: Monday, May 14, 2018, 11:57:51 »

Corbyn's stance on the EU is annoying and wrong. One area where I completely disagree with him.

There isn't another mainstream figure promoting the end of austerity though.
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« Reply #3328 on: Wednesday, May 23, 2018, 10:06:16 »

Johnson's such a knobend

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44221524
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« Reply #3329 on: Wednesday, May 23, 2018, 10:20:57 »

Twinnings moved from North Shields 8 years ago - factory reopened about 6 years ago as Spicers? whilst Jeremy's plan to take us out of the SM will reduce the competitiveness of the plant to the EU market and thus possibly make things even worse for the merry tea makers of South Tyneside.

Yeah because we export so much Tea to Coffee drinking europe.
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