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Title: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Don Rogers Sock on Friday, January 20, 2017, 14:01:26
10 years ago we played this team against Boston away. I am refusing to believe the current lot is our worst ever side after seeing this.
Phil Smith
Jack Smith
Jerel Ifil
Ady Williams
Andrew Nicholas
Sofiene Zaaboub
Michael Timlin
Michael Pook
Lee Peacock
Christian Roberts
Ricky Shakes


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, January 20, 2017, 14:07:01
10 years ago we played this team against Boston away. I am refusing to believe the current lot is our worst ever side after seeing this.
Phil Smith
Jack Smith
Jerel Ifil
Ady Williams
Andrew Nicholas
Sofiene Zaaboub
Michael Timlin
Michael Pook
Lee Peacock
Christian Roberts
Ricky Shakes
People who say this is THE worst Swindon team ever either have short memories or have not seen many bad seasons at STFC.


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: Costanza on Friday, January 20, 2017, 14:14:09
I would argue that this current crop is one of the worst *since* that era :)


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: Batch on Friday, January 20, 2017, 14:44:25
Quote from: Costanza
I would argue that this current crop is one of the worst *since* that era :)

not much of an argument, it is.


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: kaufman on Friday, January 20, 2017, 15:03:44
I wouldn't say this current side are the worst. They're just the most frustrating side i've ever seen.
Cue a certain someone to now talk about a side from 1958 that surpasses that.


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: garethgillman on Friday, January 20, 2017, 15:06:55
I wouldn't say this current side are the worst. They're just the most frustrating side i've ever seen.

My thoughts too, we can be bloody good one game but absoloutely woeful the next, there is no consistency. It's not the best team we have had but not the worst either and got some real quality but they just frustrate fans with lack if consistency and looking like they don't give a toss sometimes.


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: JoeMezz on Friday, January 20, 2017, 15:27:46
10 years ago we played this team against Boston away. I am refusing to believe the current lot is our worst ever side after seeing this.
Phil Smith
Jack Smith
Jerel Ifil
Ady Williams
Andrew Nicholas
Sofiene Zaaboub
Michael Timlin
Michael Pook
Lee Peacock
Christian Roberts
Ricky Shakes

Think our defense is worse than that when it was: Barry, Jones, Branco, BOO


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: sonicyouth on Friday, January 20, 2017, 15:51:28
Jack Smith was a far better full back than anything we have presently. Ifil would possibly be an improvement.

Niche wasn't too bad, didn't develop his potential I think.


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, January 20, 2017, 16:02:52
I wouldn't say this current side are the worst. They're just the most frustrating side i've ever seen.
Cue a certain someone to now talk about a side from 1958 that surpasses that.


The 55/56 side is generally regarded as being right up with 10/11 in the all time shitness stakes. This despite the best efforts of Maurice Owen and Bob Edwards, both of whom got to double figures for goals and Sammy Burton between the sticks. That season the Board recruited players, and handed them over to trainers, so no manager as such (sound familiar?)

It was on the road that most problems came....with even more 4 or more thrashings than the current side have had this season so far.

 I said ages back that I'll be amazed if Norris, Delf, Hylton score 10 between them, over few course of the season....it's been good to have enjoyed the week, but it needs to be backed up tomorrow, we're still a point worse off than that 10/11 side at the same time so plenty of scope for things to go horribly wrong.

 Interestingly that 55/56 finished bottom of Div 3 S, which meant an application for re-election, in which we saw off non- league Posh, having already dispatched the plucky  non-leaguers in the Cup, infront of 23,000+ at the CG after a replay.


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, January 20, 2017, 16:20:34
I would hazard a guess, though, that there weren't as many other truly shit teams in the league as there is now. That's what will save us - that and 6 points from Rovers and the piss stains.

Looking forward to tomorrow - a rekindling of hope of sorts.


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, January 20, 2017, 16:28:39
Looking forward to tomorrow - a rekindling of hope of sorts.

It's the hope that gets you....


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, January 20, 2017, 16:32:14
It's the hope that gets you....
Unfortunately so...


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: Ells on Friday, January 20, 2017, 19:14:09
People who say this is THE worst Swindon team ever either have short memories or have not seen many bad seasons at STFC.

If you notice, usually the most idiotic opinions start with the sentence "I've been watching the Town for x years and this is..."

It's not like Christian Roberts was bad either!


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: Johnny Reeves on Friday, January 20, 2017, 19:32:14
Think our defense is worse than that when it was: Barry, Jones, Branco, BOO

Apart from the goalie the squad up to January has been as bad as i can remember and also the atmosphere or lack of.This division as a whole is the lowest quality ever.


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Friday, January 20, 2017, 19:39:33
Apart from the goalie the squad up to January has been as bad as i can remember and also the atmosphere or lack of.This division as a whole is the lowest quality ever.
Seconded but Beamishs lot were worse although I know others may disagree


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: suttonred on Friday, January 20, 2017, 20:04:58
Post a week ago, they were up there, but to be realistic we've had some gash sides over the years, 00/07 inclusive (bar one) were probably the leanest years, as we were skint, up to our eyeballs in debt, with no hope of getting out of it. At least now power saw we were and can,and is remedying it. I dont think this one in hindsight will be the worst once the seasons done.


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: Johnny Reeves on Friday, January 20, 2017, 20:16:31
This season we have a back 4/5 who are out of their depth playing the style asked(not their fault)it's ever changing with little experience.The midfield should be the stongpoint but injuries and lack of interest have robbed us of the possession we've enjoyed in previous seasons.The forward line is far worse than the in the Beamish squad,Beeks always injured doesn't help.


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, January 20, 2017, 20:29:01
It's all well and good blaming the defence and strikers, but they have had neither defensive cover nor attacking support from a piss poor midfield - a right shit sandwich of a team.

The midfield looks so much better now and I'm sure both defence and attack will show marked improvement.


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: Johnny Reeves on Friday, January 20, 2017, 20:43:31
After 1 game it looks better,the defence as i said are asked to do too much due to the tactics and as we both pointed out the midfield not being anything near what we've been used to.The forwards very powderpuff,worse threat we have had Ever in the world.


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, January 20, 2017, 21:39:38
It's all well and good blaming the defence and strikers, but they have had neither defensive cover nor attacking support from a piss poor midfield - a right shit sandwich of a team.

The midfield looks so much better now and I'm sure both defence and attack will show marked improvement.

Just to provide some sort of context to this season's so far historic shitness....not one Town player has  scored more than a single goal in any game. No braces, no hat tricks, I go back to the 50's and it's a situation without precedent in that time. Can we go through the whole season and set a new unwanted record?


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: RedRag on Saturday, January 21, 2017, 10:11:28
Luke Norris to ignite Jan Aage-like?


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: corner on Saturday, January 21, 2017, 11:03:57
CONFIRMED 🤝 | Nathan Delfouneso has today left Town in order to join @BlackpoolFC on a permanent deal

⬇️

👉 goo.gl/k4vIkr

#STFC


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: ronnie21 on Saturday, January 21, 2017, 11:05:30
Transfer rumours?


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: Batch on Saturday, January 21, 2017, 11:05:30
another one coming in then? obika is too injury prone,: Norris not scoring and a rookie is too risky

oh wait, forgot Hylton.. he tries hard, physically useful, unproven quality


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: ronnie21 on Saturday, January 21, 2017, 11:06:01
CONFIRMED 🤝 | Nathan Delfouneso has today left Town in order to join @BlackpoolFC on a permanent deal

⬇️

👉 goo.gl/k4vIkr

#STFC
Leaves room for another signing?


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, January 21, 2017, 11:08:26
 Delf just isn't a striker.....seemed a steady pro, so good luck to the fella.


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, January 21, 2017, 11:09:58
Leaves room for another signing?

We've currently 4, so called strikers,  Feruz coming in meant 1 had to go.


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: Super Hans on Saturday, January 21, 2017, 11:12:48
Feel he could have been decent if he had an understanding with a creative midfielder who was always looking for his runs in behind defenders, but then he's never been a goalscorer so maybe not.

Good luck to him.


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: tans on Saturday, January 21, 2017, 11:13:52
Actually think he was too intelligent with his runs for our midfield. Think he'll do well in keague 2. As others have said, good luck to him


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, January 21, 2017, 11:16:03
Actually think he was too intelligent with his runs for our midfield.

Nah, he's just not very good.


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: JoeMezz on Saturday, January 21, 2017, 11:16:24
Actually think he was too intelligent with his runs for our midfield. Think he'll do well in keague 2. As others have said, good luck to him

Personally thought he was awful


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: tans on Saturday, January 21, 2017, 11:18:48
This is why i fail miserably on football manager.


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, January 21, 2017, 11:37:50
Well according to some on the FB fans page he was a world beater that should never have been released "#powerout #getyourmoneyout" fucking unbelievable the crap many on there post.

I think he was a square peg in a round hole for us, he never really settled into our way of playing...and anywhere he has been during his career so far TBH.


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: SuggWillSugg MBE on Saturday, January 21, 2017, 11:56:24
Well according to some on the FB fans page he was a world beater that should never have been released "#powerout #getyourmoneyout" fucking unbelievable the crap many on there post.

I think he was a square peg in a round hole for us, he never really settled into our way of playing...and anywhere he has been during his career so far TBH.

I just ventured on there and have seen someone genuinely say they'd rather us be in masses of debt and fighting relegation every season as it's more 'exciting.' POWER OUT.


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: Batch on Saturday, January 21, 2017, 11:57:35
I've tried to join again, see if I last longer than a day this time


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: THE FLASH on Saturday, January 21, 2017, 11:59:25
Good luck to Fonz....I think he didn't suit our style...Made runs but by the time our midfield had exchanged nine passes, the chance of a pass was gone.

Need a couple of bodies in to give us the best chance of staying in this shit pit of a league...


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: ronnie21 on Saturday, January 21, 2017, 12:06:33
We've currently 4, so called strikers,  Feruz coming in meant 1 had to go.
Feruz is only a loan, room for a new perm signing I think.


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, January 21, 2017, 12:17:26
Feruz is only a loan, room for a new perm signing I think.


Loan til end of season which is about 14/15 weeks away, 19 games.  Come May, there will be a clear out and then a few permanent signings can happen.

If NSSJO goes in the next 10 days then yes we might get someone in on a perm or an out of contract type.


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Saturday, January 21, 2017, 12:18:46
Good luck to the Fonz. Agree with what others say about the runs he made and the total ineptness of our midfield to find him. To be honest though, if they had found him he would have hit the keeper. At least he gave 100% unlike others but I don;t think he will be too badly missed.


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, January 21, 2017, 12:46:52
I've tried to join again, see if I last longer than a day this time

From the outside it seems very strange, that posters slag off the mythical Facebook group, yet seem to return again and again, just to reinforce their sense of how bad it is.  Rubbernecking is very human condition, and in the context of RTA's dangerous, so why do people do it?



Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: REDBUCK on Saturday, January 21, 2017, 12:51:26
Maybe it's an antidote to your "we are shit and heading for relegation" posts from August onwards.


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: Batch on Saturday, January 21, 2017, 13:07:31
curiosity reg.

I've put the cat in a box to preserve it's state, and I've unplugged the stereo just in case..


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, January 21, 2017, 13:16:51
curiosity reg.

I've put the cat in a box to preserve it's state, and I've unplugged the stereo just in case..

I guess it's like how I sometimes read  BTL on the Adver site....I do like it when Ells tries to instil a bit of reasoned argument just to get slagged off.


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Saturday, January 21, 2017, 13:39:17
I guess it's like how I sometimes read  BTL on the Adver site....I do like it when Ells tries to instil a bit of reasoned argument just to get slagged off.

Fighting a losing battle on there, but gets a like from me.
Maybe should try using more exclamation marks.



Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: bamboonoshop on Saturday, January 21, 2017, 16:39:53
Alessandro Cibbochi.................Ooohhhhhhhh wanna......

Have him back any day. A gent and not a bad full back too.


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: newmarket red on Saturday, January 21, 2017, 16:55:03
Good luck to the Fonz. Agree with what others say about the runs he made and the total ineptness of our midfield to find him. To be honest though, if they had found him he would have hit the keeper. At least he gave 100% unlike others but I don;t think he will be too badly missed.
and the fonz scores.


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: Johnny Reeves on Saturday, January 21, 2017, 17:08:07
The Beamish squad would piss all over this lot,anyone with half a brain who actually goes and watches this team live(and stays awake)could see it's like watching their 13 year old kids side making the same mistakes over and over.It really is a chore these days to make an effort for so little reward. >:(


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: tans on Friday, July 21, 2017, 05:53:23
Lincoln sign Michael Bostwick


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: Costanza on Friday, July 21, 2017, 07:45:19
Lincoln sign Michael Bostwick

I'm sure Lincoln are delighted with that purchase.


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: Saxondale on Friday, July 21, 2017, 07:46:03
Is he good.  Should we care?


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: Riddick on Friday, July 21, 2017, 07:55:38
He's a limited kick the opposition type on all the occasions i have seen him. We've signed two of those already in Dunne and Linganzi.


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: Saxondale on Friday, July 21, 2017, 08:10:49
Oh.  Ok.

Sorry.  I dont know every lower league football player.


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: hefty toe on Friday, July 21, 2017, 08:19:48
I think Bostwick's better than Dunne and Linganzi.  Really good signing for Lincoln.  He was one of the better DMs in League 1.  Alright at CB too.  Lincoln are going to be up there: best manager and best signings thus far IMO.


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, July 21, 2017, 08:27:38
Nothing to do with STFC rumours though...

As an aside, to play devil's advocate, their managers are untested at this level and only in their second season of pro football, and they've mostly signed L2 fodder (although the young kid from Brighton looks like a coup).



Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: Tails on Friday, July 21, 2017, 08:37:39
Two great signings for Lincoln tbf.

I think their boss will get snapped up quite early


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: Costanza on Friday, July 21, 2017, 08:56:54
Nothing to do with STFC rumours though...

Bostwick was tenuously linked earlier in the summer.


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, July 21, 2017, 09:08:48
Young GK Declan Lehmann gone to FGR according to our Twitter. Cooper and Lyndsay throwing money at our youths?

Good for him though, only 18 months ago was diagnosed with a heart tumour.


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: pauld on Friday, July 21, 2017, 09:09:42
Bostwick was tenuously linked earlier in the summer.
Yeah, but it didn't stick :)


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, July 21, 2017, 09:18:49
Kaiyne Woolery linked
Between us and FGR to sign him on loan for a season apparently.

Quote from the FGR forum...

Quote
Would be great to get him back. Surely he wouldn't go to Swindon over us. He has links with Cooper and is a hero at FGR.


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: Tails on Friday, July 21, 2017, 09:18:56
Young GK Declan Lehmann gone to FGR according to our Twitter. Cooper and Lyndsay throwing money at our youths?

Good for him though, only 18 months ago was diagnosed with a heart tumour.

That one was announced a while ago I think.

They are certainly becoming STFC 2 aren't they. I might almost feel sad when Vince pulls the plug.


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: bilko on Friday, July 21, 2017, 12:31:24
I got a feeling that striker from Wigan may hitch up again with FGR as he's a hero their after scoring two goals in the Play off Final - seems like FGR are getting a collection of ex Swindon staff and players at the moment and I didn't realise until today Luton have 5 ex Swindon players in their squad.
By all accounts that Wigan player were after has loads of pace and Copper played him out wide when he was with them. Hopefully though he will see us as the biggest draw to come to but its sad we are now competing with FGR for players that's how far weve dropped as a club.


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: garethgillman on Friday, July 21, 2017, 12:50:18
how far weve dropped as a club.

or how far teams like Burton and FGR have progressed, Swindon haven't moved in stature much in the last 20 years, bouncing between L1 and 2, where as teams like FGR, Burton, Bournemouth and Swansea have got a lot of investment and progressed to be on the same level as teams which they only dreamed of playing 10 years ago.

Now FGR are in the league, yes we will be competing with them as to a player, it doesn't really matter on the history of the club, just what league they are in and what wages they are paying. FGR won't be paying anymore than us for players so it will come down to the players preference.


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, July 21, 2017, 13:27:33
that's how far weve dropped as a club.

One division.

It's shit, but we've dropped one division from where we usually are. A single division. One.


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: bilko on Friday, July 21, 2017, 13:49:41
Yeah weve dropped one division but to a shit division L1 was poor and this league were in now is dire teams but what I meant is FGR have progressed weve declined whereas not long ago no one would even consider discussing FGR now were competing for players with them and they're taking staff and young players from us.

Gonna be a tough physical season this league and fitness counts a lot in this league so we will have gone from over playing football to hoof football so all we can do is hopefully hope DF knows what he is doing to get us out of this league.


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, July 21, 2017, 14:03:21
Gonna be a tough physical season this league and fitness counts a lot in this league so we will have gone from over playing football to hoof football so all we can do is hopefully hope DF knows what he is doing to get us out of this league.
We hardly played an on the deck passing game when Macari took us up as champions, then again when Wise/Sturrock got us out of this league we were a big side who put themselves about a bit, and even under PdC we played plenty of long hoof ball and that worked too.

If thats what it takes to get us promotion then I say fucking go for it.

Last season we had a bunch of wimps playing for us and that certainly won't be how it is this season, we will at least battle for every ball rather than duck out of challenges and 50/50 balls, it may not be pretty to watch but I think we could well be up around the playoffs at least this coming season and yes we should be aiming for automatic promotion considering the quality of the league.

Plenty of sides relegated from L1 have slipped right through the division southwards, the worst part is that even mid table would be a vast improvement on our side last season when almost every player was happy to just turn up and pick up a wage and not bother with any effort.


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, July 21, 2017, 14:14:47
I think nearly every fan would prefer a season of regular wins in a lower league than getting dicked week in, week out in a higher one.

I reckon if we'd survived last season and Power decided not too much was wrong with his 'way' even more fans would have drifted away this season with the poor entertainment on offer and little prospect of change.

Dropping a division may be the making of us (again).


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, July 21, 2017, 14:17:23
I think nearly every fan would prefer a season of regular wins in a lower league than getting dicked week in, week out in a higher one.

I reckon if we'd survived last season and Power decided not too much was wrong with his 'way' even more fans would have drifted away this season with the poor entertainment on offer and little prospect of change.

Dropping a division may be the making of us (again).
Exactly.


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: Batch on Friday, July 21, 2017, 14:27:27
Quote from: Audrey's Bellend
I think nearly every fan would prefer a season of regular wins in a lower league than getting dicked week in, week out in a higher one.

well yeah, winning league 2 would be more fun than getting relegated from  league 1.

 But I'd love to see us go up to the championship even if the end result is we sink.

I know it's not what you meant, but I wonder how many are happy with league 1 because the championship looks difficult?!

Quote
I reckon if we'd survived last season and Power decided not too much was wrong with his 'way' even more fans would have drifted away this season with the poor entertainment on offer and little prospect of change.

Dropping a division may be the making of us (again).

It may be a disaster too, doesn't feel like one .

But yeah, if project babysitter is gone for good then it's a positive.


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, July 21, 2017, 14:38:17
I think nearly every fan would prefer a season of regular wins in a lower league than getting dicked week in, week out in a higher one.

I reckon if we'd survived last season and Power decided not too much was wrong with his 'way' even more fans would have drifted away this season with the poor entertainment on offer and little prospect of change.

Dropping a division may be the making of us (again).

You're assuming that we'll win games in Div 4.  Essentially we have no idea how the coming season will pan out, and probably won't have until about December.  This is not Flitcroft's fault, his work so far has been good, but the job is difficult.

We kick off in a fortnight, and have a basic squad of journeymen players, we've no idea how we'll play, no idea how the relegation might affect support levels and no idea if we'll recruit further.

A pre-season friendly this week at the CG would have been handy.... give a glimpse of what we might expect.


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, July 21, 2017, 14:49:24
Bloody hell! I should think every Town fan expects to win games in the basement. Whether enough to gain promotion I haven't a clue. But I cannot envisage a struggle in the least.


Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Friday, July 21, 2017, 14:49:30
 TRANSFER RUMOURS please, don't make me beg now.... ;)


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: tans on Friday, July 21, 2017, 15:58:41
Between us and FGR to sign him on loan for a season apparently.

Quote from the FGR forum...


They have a forum? Whats the address? Www.vegantreehuggers.com?


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, July 21, 2017, 16:28:41
They have a forum? Whats the address? Www.vegantreehuggers.com?
:D www.weonlyhave500fans.com

Its here http://forum.fgrfc.net/index.php


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Batch on Friday, July 21, 2017, 19:03:11
they seem to rate Wollery, while acknowledging him to be not quite the finished article.

I see the FGR are also off to Portugal. Have Easyjet got a Bristol Airport special on or something.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: flammableBen on Saturday, July 22, 2017, 02:40:00
You're assuming that we'll win games in Div 4.  Essentially we have no idea how the coming season will pan out, and probably won't have until about December.  This is not Flitcroft's fault, his work so far has been good, but the job is difficult.

We kick off in a fortnight, and have a basic squad of journeymen players, we've no idea how we'll play, no idea how the relegation might affect support levels and no idea if we'll recruit further.

A pre-season friendly this week at the CG would have been handy.... give a glimpse of what we might expect.

This is the first season I've seen us in the basement where we really feel like we are there on (lack of) merit, rather than a bigger club on a blip.

Happy with pre-season, and the change of focus seems positive for our current situation. We just feel like a league 2 team this year.



Title: Re: STFC Transfer Rumours
Post by: RedRag on Saturday, July 22, 2017, 08:11:46
or how far teams like Burton and FGR have progressed, Swindon haven't moved in stature much in the last 120 years, bouncing between L1 and 2, where as teams like FGR, Burton, Bournemouth and Swansea have got a lot of investment and progressed to be on the same level as teams which they only dreamed of playing 10 years ago.

Now FGR are in the league, yes we will be competing with them as to a player, it doesn't really matter on the history of the club, just what league they are in and what wages they are paying. FGR won't be paying anymore than us for players so it will come down to the players preference.
fixed


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, July 22, 2017, 10:36:10
This is the first season I've seen us in the basement where we really feel like we are there on (lack of) merit, rather than a bigger club on a blip.

Happy with pre-season, and the change of focus seems positive for our current situation. We just feel like a league 2 team this year.

I'm happy enough with that... it's feeling like a non league team that I want to avoid... there are elements of how the club is run, which wouldn't look out of place at that level.

I'm reasonably optimistic that Flitcroft has enough about him to stop the rot.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 22, 2017, 14:50:07
I see "alleged" Town target Aaron Pierre has signed for Northampton Town.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: chalkies_shorts on Saturday, July 22, 2017, 14:59:18
Liam Trotter to AFC Wimbledon. Good signing. Would have been happy to see him here.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: StfcRusty on Saturday, July 22, 2017, 16:44:22
Teddy Sheringham has been appointed as head coach of Indian Super League side Atletico de Kolkata.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: tans on Saturday, July 22, 2017, 18:11:25
Oxford thought they had a dutch international on trial today, named him on the teamsheet and everything.

Turned out it was his brother :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, July 22, 2017, 18:57:04
Well yeah, Luciano plays for Swansea and played most games last season...


Title: Re:
Post by: Benzel on Sunday, July 23, 2017, 11:44:42
It's really tickled me. The collective belief amongst their fanbase that they're some kind of sleeping giant has rotted their brains so much that without a second thought they actually thought they had a Dutch international on trial.
They've been inhaling too many smoke bombs.

Sent from my SM-G930F


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, July 26, 2017, 11:02:29
I see John Lundstram the Pox captain was sold to Sheff Utd yesterday and brought in an injury prone 33 year old CB Williamson, they have lost a fair few of their better players this summer.

I wouldn't be happy if I was a fan of theirs...but luckily I am not :D


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, July 26, 2017, 11:40:19
I see John Lundstram the Pox captain was sold to Sheff Utd yesterday and brought in an injury prone 33 year old CB Williamson, they have lost a fair few of their better players this summer.

I wouldn't be happy if I was a fan of theirs...but luckily I am not :D

I don't think it's quite got to the point where we watch the likes of Oxford and Rovers, sail over the horizon Reading style out of our league, but the focus this season should defintely be on our Gloucestershire neighbours.


Title: Re:
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Thursday, July 27, 2017, 02:56:48
It's really tickled me. The collective belief amongst their fanbase that they're some kind of sleeping giant has rotted their brains so much that without a second thought they actually thought they had a Dutch international on trial.
They've been inhaling too many smoke bombs.

Sent from my SM-G930F

Related to Hertz Van Rentals by any chance?


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: tans on Saturday, July 29, 2017, 07:13:31
http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/exclusive-aden-flint-leave-bristol-252681


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, July 29, 2017, 07:58:21
http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/exclusive-aden-flint-leave-bristol-252681

The "former Alfreton Town" quote made me smile. The Post know they should mention us at their peril.

Swindon gave him his Football League chance, guys. Deal with it.

:)


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, July 29, 2017, 08:47:31
The "former Alfreton Town" quote made me smile. The Post know they should mention us at their peril.

Swindon gave him his Football League chance, guys. Deal with it.

:)

It mentions us further down in the article but don't let that cloud your petty judgement!


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: tans on Saturday, July 29, 2017, 09:48:15
It mentions us further down in the article but don't let that cloud your petty judgement!

I see BOO bit back at your tweet yesterday, mentioning your wife, then deleted it!

What a prick!


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, July 29, 2017, 10:03:04
I see BOO bit back at your tweet yesterday, mentioning your wife, then deleted it!

What a prick!

Really? I hadn't even noticed! I was at the cinema so my phone was off.

What did he say?

Oh I see he has blocked me, what a plum.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, July 29, 2017, 10:18:11
It mentions us further down in the article but don't let that cloud your petty judgement!

I stopped reading at that point :)


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 29, 2017, 10:20:00
I see BOO bit back at your tweet yesterday, mentioning your wife, then deleted it!

What a prick!
What a petty twat. What did it say so he can be embarressed in public more :)


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: tans on Saturday, July 29, 2017, 10:54:30
He said he'll love your wife more than the coffee shops


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, July 29, 2017, 11:08:30
I stopped reading at that point :)

:) I wish I had :)


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, July 29, 2017, 11:09:34
He said he'll love your wife more than the coffee shops

Shame he blocked me. But I'm not sure I should have gotten into a battle of wits with an unarmed man.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, July 29, 2017, 11:14:43
Shame he blocked me. But I'm not sure I should have gotten into a battle of wits with an unarmed man.
Exactly, like having a gun fight with a man who has a knife...and a blunt one at that!


Title: Re:
Post by: mystical_goat on Saturday, July 29, 2017, 12:37:10
It's really tickled me. The collective belief amongst their fanbase that they're some kind of sleeping giant has rotted their brains so much that without a second thought they actually thought they had a Dutch international on trial.
They've been inhaling too many smoke bombs.

To be fair, you could probably be forgiven for having such lofty aspirations when we have already signed a Dutch player with caps and a Erdevise league winners medal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_Tiendalli

Okay, he's not really played football for a while but that is beside the point.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: tans on Monday, July 31, 2017, 09:36:33
Jordan Turnbull to Partick Thistle


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Tails on Monday, July 31, 2017, 09:39:02
To be fair, you could probably be forgiven for having such lofty aspirations when we have already signed a Dutch player with caps and a Erdevise league winners medal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_Tiendalli

Okay, he's not really played football for a while but that is beside the point.

2 years.

Their transfer strategy seems to be signing crocks in the hope they aren't crocked anymore. I did see a tweet from an Oxford fan that said they had the best medical staff in the football league.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Monday, July 31, 2017, 09:49:05

I did see a tweet from an Oxford fan that said they had the best medical staff in the football league.

They will certainly need it. Perhaps they can convince Dean Ashton to pull on the boots again


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, July 31, 2017, 10:00:06
They will certainly need it. Perhaps they can convince Dean Ashton to pull on the boots again
Still only 33 could do a job for us...even with a fucked up ankle ;)

March 2016 in Mark Nobles testimonial, 45 seconds into this clip......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD2O1IA_aTQ


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, July 31, 2017, 10:04:15
I see 'Arry is after Flint from Shitty now.

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/harry-redknapp-confirms-birmingham-citys-13405014


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Townend80 on Tuesday, August 1, 2017, 14:27:17
City Shitty could shaft us the way we shafted spurs with Luongo and Gladwin


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, August 1, 2017, 14:57:44
City Shitty could shaft us the way we shafted spurs with Luongo and Gladwin

If 'Arry is involved I would imagine Birmingham will go bust long before Shitty receive any of the fee for the transfer?


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: swindonmaniac on Tuesday, August 1, 2017, 20:28:07
If 'Arry is involved I would imagine Birmingham will go bust long before Shitty receive any of the fee for the transfer?
Going On previous events I presume Rosie will be signing the cheque.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, August 2, 2017, 08:48:02
We think we have problems with getting a new squad...

https://twitter.com/OfficialBWFC/status/892437278261248001


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Monday, August 14, 2017, 10:26:42
Luton get £1.7m for a striker who scored 8 goals in League Two last season.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: ronnie21 on Monday, August 14, 2017, 12:25:27
Luton get £1.7m for a striker who scored 8 goals in League Two last season.
World's gone crazy!


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: corner on Wednesday, August 30, 2017, 12:27:13
Ryan shoton gone from Birmingham to Middlesbrough could pave the way for them to get that cunt flint so we can cash in


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: tans on Wednesday, August 30, 2017, 12:54:25
Marvin Johnson to Middlesbrough from the Scum.

2.5m plus 500k in addons!


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: tans on Wednesday, August 30, 2017, 12:54:44
Ryan shoton gone from Birmingham to Middlesbrough could pave the way for them to get that cunt flint so we can cash in

Signing harlee dean


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: ronnie21 on Wednesday, August 30, 2017, 14:14:53
Ryan shoton gone from Birmingham to Middlesbrough could pave the way for them to get that cunt flint so we can cash in
Norwich are after him!


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, August 30, 2017, 14:39:45
Norwich are after him!

Norwich have just signed Grant Hanley.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, August 30, 2017, 16:53:20
Bury sign a winger on loan from Bournemouth. Not sure whether that helps Town.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, August 31, 2017, 11:47:32
I see Cheltenham have signed Stupid Sexy Flinders, he always seemed to play a blinder against us for Hartlepool.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: donkey on Thursday, August 31, 2017, 15:06:33
I see Cheltenham have signed Stupid Sexy Flinders, he always seemed to play a blinder against us for Hartlepool.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WaeRM7X_yS4


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Tails on Friday, September 1, 2017, 08:42:04
Barnet have signed Dave Tarpey from Maidenhead just in time to face us. Scored a shed load of goals in the Conference South last year.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, September 1, 2017, 08:59:33
Barnet have signed Dave Tarpey from Maidenhead just in time to face us. Scored a shed load of goals in the Conference South last year.
Scored shitloads at lower league level but never played higher than the conference, aged 29 he is not one for the future but definately for the now.

138 goals in 379 appearances in total but 45 of those came last season, scored 7 goals in 6 games this season at National League level.

I did also see that former Town target Dagenham striker Ollie Hawkins signed for Pompey yesterday for an undisclosed fee.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Tuesday, September 12, 2017, 20:24:49
Ex trailist Jordan Slew has joined Rochdale.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Monday, January 29, 2018, 22:58:35
Derby County have made a £6m offer to Bristol City for Aden Flint, the Derby Telegraph reports.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Ells on Tuesday, January 30, 2018, 01:23:31
Derby County have made a £6m offer to Bristol City for Aden Flint, the Derby Telegraph reports.

Didn't they reject 6m from Brighton?


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, January 30, 2018, 09:12:21
Didn't they reject 6m from Brighton?
Yes they did but that could have been installments rather than an outright payment.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: tans on Tuesday, January 30, 2018, 10:12:06
👀


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, January 30, 2018, 10:25:19
👀
perhaps the offer was a bag of Haribo, it could never have been money!


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, January 30, 2018, 12:06:50
Did we sell Branco to Boavista or did his contract expire?


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, January 30, 2018, 12:09:28
Did we sell Branco to Boavista or did his contract expire?
He was out of contract.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: MaTaNzA on Tuesday, January 30, 2018, 12:10:10
Did we sell Branco to Boavista or did his contract expire?

In the tweet, it says they got him on a free. Assume his contract expired in the summer


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, January 30, 2018, 12:41:58
Cheers, just wondered if there may have been a sell on, but clearly not!


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, January 30, 2018, 12:46:47
If Branco had stayed he would currently be our best centre back.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, January 30, 2018, 12:48:04
If Branco had stayed he would currently be our best centre back.

*easily


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, January 30, 2018, 12:51:40
I liked Branco. A disaster waiting to happen, but an effective stopper nonetheless. If working with a manager that gets him doing what he's good at, and nothing else, I can see how he'd make a good CB in the right team.

Oh, and THAT forearm smash on Flint.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: hefty toe on Tuesday, January 30, 2018, 13:00:40
I thought Branco was very good.  Most of our fans seemed to think he was crap. 


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, January 30, 2018, 13:07:41
I thought Branco was very good.  Most of our fans seemed to think he was crap. 

Just because the majority don't agree with you doesn't mean you're wrong.

Branco could make the odd absolute howler, but that's why you end up in Div 3, or before that for him non-league.

Last season he was the least of our worries, and as I said at the time him and Nathan would have been the only 2 I'd have kept of the out of contract players.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: singingiiiffy on Tuesday, January 30, 2018, 13:30:15
Branco was terrible. A liability. A professional footballer who couldnt take throw ins. Conroy and Preston are streets ahead of him. Not a fan of our other two cbs however


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: reeves4england on Tuesday, January 30, 2018, 15:07:06
He was no world beater and he had the odd mare, but on the whole he was a decent enough League 1 CB. Something all the more eveident looking at our current crop.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, January 30, 2018, 15:20:21
Branco was terrible. A liability. A professional footballer who couldnt take throw ins. Conroy and Preston are streets ahead of him. Not a fan of our other two cbs however

At least you're consistent.  Conroy has played a handful of games.... 4 league appearances at the CG this season we shipped 10 goals. He looked to have some potential, but that is all at this stage of his career.

As Flitters said when he got injured, a shame as we were just starting to be able to get him to think a bit more about how to defend.

 Luke era signing... let's find the next John Stones, happy with the ball at feet, a bit clueless about the sticking your head in the way stuff. JSW was another... went to Orient, along with Embers who are now in grave danger of Conference South.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: tans on Tuesday, January 30, 2018, 19:18:30
Lloyd Jones to Luton on a permanent according to the Liverpool Echo


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: singingiiiffy on Tuesday, January 30, 2018, 19:26:39
At least you're consistent.  Conroy has played a handful of games.... 4 league appearances at the CG this season we shipped 10 goals. He looked to have some potential, but that is all at this stage of his career.

As Flitters said when he got injured, a shame as we were just starting to be able to get him to think a bit more about how to defend.

 Luke era signing... let's find the next John Stones, happy with the ball at feet, a bit clueless about the sticking your head in the way stuff. JSW was another... went to Orient, along with Embers who are now in grave danger of Conference South.

Eh? Conroy has played 21 games. More than enough to make an impression. You can't select 4 home games and say goals were conceded that means Conroy is bad? Was he at fault for any of them?

Conroy has been extremely solid and certainly wasn't a pretty footballer which is what I looked most about him. Wins headers and gets his foot in. Being able to pass the bonus.

At least your consistent in drivel  ;D (take a little look at threads he played in and more importantly the one he was injured. Loads of posters worried about the injury and the effect on the defence)


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, January 30, 2018, 19:41:38
Eh? Conroy has played 21 games. More than enough to make an impression. You can't select 4 home games and say goals were conceded that means Conroy is bad? Was he at fault for any of them?

Conroy has been extremely solid and certainly wasn't a pretty footballer which is what I looked most about him. Wins headers and gets his foot in. Being able to pass the bonus.

At least your consistent in drivel  ;D (take a little look at threads he played in and more importantly the one he was injured. Loads of posters worried about the injury and the effect on the defence)

21 games, 17 starts is fuck all... as I said shows promise, but at this stage that is all.

Hopefuly he comes back, and is able to develop, and become good enough to get a Portuguese Primera club and interest from Serie A, albeit from a side doomed to relegation.



Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: singingiiiffy on Tuesday, January 30, 2018, 19:55:51
21 games, 17 starts is fuck all... as I said shows promise, but at this stage that is all.

Hopefuly he comes back, and is able to develop, and become good enough to get a Portuguese Primera club and interest from Serie A, albeit from a side doomed to relegation.

Sorry you must have massive hands. Yes mid table Portuguese prem almost talking miles storey level now. He was shit in a shit era of football. Passion over ability with that lad


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, January 30, 2018, 22:04:40
Sorry you must have massive hands. Yes mid table Portuguese prem almost talking miles storey level now. He was shit in a shit era of football. Passion over ability with that lad

Clearly there's a big difference between Portugal's big 3 and the rest, but Portugal is a breeding ground for players to step up for big money moves, to the bigger Euro leagues.

So if you can show your worth there, like when Boavista beat Benfica who knows?


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: singingiiiffy on Tuesday, January 30, 2018, 22:25:26
Clearly there's a big difference between Portugal's big 3 and the rest, but Portugal is a breeding ground for players to step up for big money moves, to the bigger Euro leagues.

So if you can show your worth there, like when Boavista beat Benfica who knows?

Fine- you win. Hopefully Conroy becomes as good as a Portuguese 8th placed Branco playing in front of that massive shop window waiting to be snapped up by the big clubs.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, January 31, 2018, 12:27:56
Fine- you win. Hopefully Conroy becomes as good as a Portuguese 8th placed Branco playing in front of that massive shop window waiting to be snapped up by the big clubs.
You can be as sarcy as you like, but tbf both Portugal's top flight and Serie A are clearly much bigger playing stages than League 2. Branco's agent pulled off an absolute worldy there.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, January 31, 2018, 12:39:57
Chris Martin is expected to complete a loan move to Reading today. (BBC)


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: reeves4england on Wednesday, January 31, 2018, 14:19:36
Lloyd Jones joins Luton for an undisclosed fee


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Wednesday, January 31, 2018, 14:49:49
There was a whiff of a rumour about us being interested in Lee Brown from Bristol Rovers


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: singingiiiffy on Wednesday, January 31, 2018, 15:55:16
You can be as sarcy as you like, but tbf both Portugal's top flight and Serie A are clearly much bigger playing stages than League 2. Branco's agent pulled off an absolute worldy there.

No question his agent did well and we all said it at the time. Because he is playing there will not change my view on Branco being a poor player. Our attendance Saturday beats the majority of that league. Serie A would have been a move on completely different scale but that was gossip


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: tans on Wednesday, January 31, 2018, 16:25:23
Yaser Kasim believed to be leaving Northampton for Port Vale or Notts County.

Remember when he was off to Swansea soapy tit wank


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Wednesday, January 31, 2018, 16:44:43
Perhaps we need an 'Anton Rodgers to Oxford' rumour to be started by tansmedia


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, January 31, 2018, 16:45:10
Yaser Kasim believed to be leaving Northampton for Port Vale or Notts County.

Remember when he was off to Swansea soapy tit wank

If it's Vale, he'll have a trip to the CG to look forward to.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Exiled Bob on Wednesday, January 31, 2018, 16:52:56
Perhaps we need an 'Anton Rodgers to Oxford' rumour to be started by tansmedia
He didn't last long at Hungerford.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: singingiiiffy on Sunday, January 6, 2019, 21:24:52
Quote
From Monday morning, Christian Doidge is back with FGR.  We've taken the decision to recall him after his loan agreement expired last week amid continual contractual breaches by Bolton Wanderers.

It became clear to us that Bolton entered into a contract to loan and then buy Christian last August without the means to honour it, and perhaps the intention to do so as well. They haven't even paid his wages for the last four months (we have). 

It's not just FGR that have been let down badly by Bolton, but Christian too. 

Bolton's Chairman, Ken Anderson, made a lot of promises on the last day of the transfer window, both to Christian and FGR, and has kept none of them.  This is all his work and from talking to Ken he feels immune from the consequences - but some of these promises are written in legally binding contracts, and we'll be pursuing them.

When the dust settles, we'll talk to the EFL about how they regulate clubs like Bolton.  They already regulate the club to a degree, controlling all TV monies to make sure that football debts get paid. Hard not to wonder whether the league could also have a role in approving the terms of any contracts entered into - to make sure that they are actually within the means of the club.  We had no way to know, but the EFL should have the inside view on that. 

And finally (for now...) - Disappointing as it is to see this go pear shaped, both for FGR and Christian, I'm also excited by the prospect of the second half of the season with Christian back with us.  I'm sure all FGR fans everywhere will join me in welcoming him back 


Good news in a way for FGR. unfortunately I can see that sealing at minimum a playoff place and makes our game with them next month even harder


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: bamboonoshop on Sunday, January 6, 2019, 21:37:57
Good news in a way for FGR. unfortunately I can see that sealing at minimum a playoff place and makes our game with them next month even harder


I see your angle  but also, nothing like a sob story to bring attention to one of your prized assets...in a transfer window. He'll be sold to another club by end of the window.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: bamboonoshop on Sunday, January 6, 2019, 21:38:33
Forgot to add - still shocking conduct by Bolton.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: RobertT on Sunday, January 6, 2019, 21:38:39
Is he the big lump forward who always looked a bit something and nothing when we played them?  He's got a good enough record I suppose.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: bamboonoshop on Sunday, January 6, 2019, 21:55:33
Is he the big lump forward who always looked a bit something and nothing when we played them?  He's got a good enough record I suppose.

Yeah, kinda. They'll probably still sell him and for more than Bolton were going to pay for him.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Nemo on Monday, January 7, 2019, 07:26:01
Not sure they can, there's the FIFA rule about playing for more than two clubs in twelve months, no?


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Trashbat? on Monday, January 7, 2019, 10:20:56
The Doidge thing is interesting as presumably FGR have budgeted for the transfer fee and signed players to cover his loss.
Now I am sure their chairman has the money to cover the shortfall, but if that was a team without those means the FA have potentially allowed Bolton to knowingly enter into a contract, that could have put another club into financial difficulties.

The FA need to be looking at this as there are plenty of clubs living beyond their means but have the sugar daddy to back them up, but Bolton are doing it and just not paying anyone.

I am sure Doidge will get a move from FG, but he didn't set the world alight in the Championship, so I don't see anyone else in that league taking a punt on him now and I also don't think many teams in L1 would stump up more than £500k for him.



Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, January 7, 2019, 10:32:52
The Doidge thing is interesting as presumably FGR have budgeted for the transfer fee and signed players to cover his loss.
Now I am sure their chairman has the money to cover the shortfall, but if that was a team without those means the FA have potentially allowed Bolton to knowingly enter into a contract, that could have put another club into financial difficulties.

The FA need to be looking at this as there are plenty of clubs living beyond their means but have the sugar daddy to back them up, but Bolton are doing it and just not paying anyone.

I am sure Doidge will get a move from FG, but he didn't set the world alight in the Championship, so I don't see anyone else in that league taking a punt on him now and I also don't think many teams in L1 would stump up more than £500k for him.



After the shenanigans last year and then this, I think we can safely say that the Bolton Chairman is definitely in the Jed McCrory not a pot to piss in mould....


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Panda Paws on Monday, January 7, 2019, 11:03:17
Between himself and his son, they've taken over £650k out in salaries too...

A sobering thought.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Tails on Monday, January 7, 2019, 11:18:21
Doidge is an odd one. I've never seen him play well but he seems to stick the ball in the back of the net a lot. Like a less super Sam Parkin I guess.

Boltons conduct is atrocious but Vince's call for financial regulation made me chuckle given how he's bankrolled them.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Panda Paws on Monday, January 7, 2019, 11:24:45
Doidge is an odd one. I've never seen him play well but he seems to stick the ball in the back of the net a lot. Like a less super Sam Parkin I guess.

Boltons conduct is atrocious but Vince's call for financial regulation made me chuckle given how he's bankrolled them.

Why would regulation affect someone who's bankrolled a club? If anything, it's in interests of rich owners to call for tighter penalties and regulation on more 'creative' owners.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: theakston2k on Monday, January 7, 2019, 12:10:58
Does again provide food for thought to the Power out at all costs brigade. Be careful what you wish for as on the face of it there does seem to be a fair few more proven dodgy owners around.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, January 7, 2019, 15:59:45
Doidge is an odd one. I've never seen him play well but he seems to stick the ball in the back of the net a lot. Like a less super Sam Parkin I guess.
I agree. I have seen him play live and on tv at least 7 times and to me he looks like a carthorse yet he always seems to get his name on the scoresheet.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: ferret on Monday, January 7, 2019, 18:52:53
We could do so much more with a decent goal hanger. Our top league scorer inside the last 3 months is Pryce, with 2.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: tans on Monday, January 7, 2019, 19:02:41
I see Bolton havent also paid for the loan players they had from Norwich. Cheeky bastards.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Monday, January 7, 2019, 19:40:48
We could do so much more with a decent goal hanger. Our top league scorer inside the last 3 months is Pryce, with 2.
& they were within 18 minutes of each other. The lack of an out & out goal scorer has killed us so far. Take out Doughty's pens & I assume that Adebayo is our top scorer with 5 from memory?? Was it actually confirmed that he's gone back to Fulham?


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Batch on Monday, January 7, 2019, 19:41:25
Quote from: ferret
We could do so much more with a decent goal hanger. Our top league scorer inside the last 3 months is Pryce, with 2.

really? blimey.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, January 7, 2019, 20:45:29
really? blimey.

No not really (goal hanger that is).... all you need to do is look at the league leaders, who rock up at the CG on Sat, they've 5 strikers, Green 2 in 19, McCarton 4 in 22, Pett 3 in 24, and Rhead 1 in 19.... Akinde has 9 but 5 pens, so 4 from open play.

That's 14 from open play....however they had 16 from midfielders, 15 from open play and a further half dozen from defenders.

Take out Akinde's pens and their leading scorer is Anderson a midfielder with 5.   Where we fall down is not getting enough goals from around the squad, as well as being a bit down on striker rates. Our front players have managed 11, but midfielders only 6, when Doughty's 4 pens are taken out.

Our defenders have managed 5, 3 of which are Taylor free kicks.

Of course if you can find an out and out scorer, all well and good, but they are thin on the ground, and as Lincoln prove you can get around it, which would probably make sense for us to do that.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Monday, January 7, 2019, 20:53:10
No not really (goal hanger that is).... all you need to do is look at the league leaders, who rock up at the CG on Sat, they've 5 strikers, Green 2 in 19, McCarton 4 in 22, Pett 3 in 24, and Rhead 1 in 19.... Akinde has 9 but 5 pens, so 4 from open play.

That's 14 from open play....however they had 16 from midfielders, 15 from open play and a further half dozen from defenders.

Take out Akinde's pens and their leading scorer is Anderson a midfielder with 5.   Where we fall down is not getting enough goals from around the squad, as well as being a bit down on striker rates. Our front players have managed 11, but midfielders only 6, when Doughty's 4 pens are taken out.

Our defenders have managed 5, 3 of which are Taylor free kicks.

Of course if you can find an out and out scorer, all well and good, but they are thin on the ground, and as Lincoln prove you can get around it, which would probably make sense for us to do that.
The fact the rest of the squad hasn't chipped in with goals further highlights why we have suffered without an out & out goalscorer.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, January 7, 2019, 21:09:53
The fact the rest of the squad hasn't chipped in with goals further highlights why we have suffered without an out & out goalscorer.

No what it highlights is that we don't score enough goals and there are different ways to score goals besides a goal hanger.

So for example we haven't had a centre half head in a corner all season.... further although we can rely on Taylor for a few free kicks, I'm struggling to remember a midfieder scoring, a proper long ranger.... Alzate got a couple from perhaps the edge of the box.

At the start of the season it was pointed out, that relying on a loan kid up front wasn't a template for getting up, and presumably the management knew this and were trying other ways to get goals around the squad


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Monday, January 7, 2019, 21:21:25
No what it highlights is that we don't score enough goals and there are different ways to score goals besides a goal hanger.

So for example we haven't had a centre half head in a corner all season.... further although we can rely on Taylor for a few free kicks, I'm struggling to remember a midfieder scoring, a proper long ranger.... Alzate got a couple from perhaps the edge of the box.

At the start of the season it was pointed out, that relying on a loan kid up front wasn't a template for getting up, and presumably the management knew this and were trying other ways to get goals around the squad
Exactly. As you've correctly stated the rest of the squad don't chip in with enough goals. This further illustrates how not having an out & out goal scorer has hindered us. This wouldn't have been so noticeable if the likes of Doughty, Alzate, Anderson etc had been netting from time to time. But they haven't. So a 20 goal a season striker would have made a massive difference.
Your use of Lincoln is a bad example as their goals have been shared around the team meaning the lack of an out & out goalscorer has hurt them far less than it has us.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, January 7, 2019, 21:38:31
Exactly. As you've correctly stated the rest of the squad don't chip in with enough goals. This further illustrates how not having an out & out goal scorer has hindered us. This wouldn't have been so noticeable if the likes of Doughty, Alzate, Anderson etc had been netting from time to time. But they haven't. So a 20 goal a season striker would have made a massive difference.
Your use of Lincoln is a bad example as their goals have been shared around the team meaning the lack of an out & out goalscorer has hurt them far less than it has us.

But the out and goal scorer is very difficult to find.... everyone wants one, and then if you do find one like Exeter you have to sell.

Even if you have one it doesn't guarantee points, the Div's leading scorer is at Tranny on 16, yet they've only 3 more points than us. Just saying well if you'd put Norwood into our side we'd be x points better off, doesn't work that way.

It's about systems of play, getting maximum use out of individuals, a bit like when Lou Macari got 18 goals out of Charlie Henry one season, converting him from full back to attacking midfielder, or as latest Loathed Stranger, Grant Smith, who suddenly became a goalscorer like Charlie converting from full back to behind the front players...

The fellas who need to step up in our set up, are particularly Kaiyne and Keshi.... OK we know Kaiyne has only just come back, but we need these 2 to get say 10 goals each by May.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Monday, January 7, 2019, 21:50:23
But the out and goal scorer is very difficult to find.... everyone wants one, and then if you do find one like Exeter you have to sell.

Even if you have one it doesn't guarantee points, the Div's leading scorer is at Tranny on 16, yet they've only 3 more points than us. Just saying well if you'd put Norwood into our side we'd be x points better off, doesn't work that way.

It's about systems of play, getting maximum use out of individuals, a bit like when Lou Macari got 18 goals out of Charlie Henry one season, converting him from full back to attacking midfielder, or as latest Loathed Stranger, Grant Smith, who suddenly became a goalscorer like Charlie converting from full back to behind the front players...

The fellas who need to step up in our set up, are particularly Kaiyne and Keshi.... OK we know Kaiyne has only just come back, but we need these 2 to get say 10 goals each by May.
Of course everybody wants one. & nobody is saying that putting Norwood into the side would guarantee x amount of points. But trying to argue that an out & out goal scorer wouldn't have made a difference is exactly the same. You wouldn't be able to prove it & I'm sure everybody on here would rather us posses a player sat on 15 goals now than not having one. Going from memory rather than googling it, I remember seasons in my time of watching where Parkin got 25 & Cox got 31 & we finished in the lower reaches. We'd have been fucked in those seasons without them. A 25 goal a season striker would have made a phenomenal difference this season. Instead we've got Rico on 2 league goals.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: ferret on Tuesday, January 8, 2019, 06:45:07
really? blimey.

Madness isn’t it? Adebayo is indeed our top scorer when penalties are excluded.

Anyway, amidst all the obsessive arguing to the contrary, I see nothing to change the point that ‘we could do so much more with a decent goal hanger’. Especially since, at first glance, House appears to be more of a target man than anyone we’ve had on the pitch all season.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, January 8, 2019, 10:02:24
Of course everybody wants one. & nobody is saying that putting Norwood into the side would guarantee x amount of points. But trying to argue that an out & out goal scorer wouldn't have made a difference is exactly the same. You wouldn't be able to prove it & I'm sure everybody on here would rather us posses a player sat on 15 goals now than not having one. Going from memory rather than googling it, I remember seasons in my time of watching where Parkin got 25 & Cox got 31 & we finished in the lower reaches. We'd have been fucked in those seasons without them. A 25 goal a season striker would have made a phenomenal difference this season. Instead we've got Rico on 2 league goals.

25 extra goals would make the difference.... source doesn't really matter, if it's one player or 4.

A season like 13/14 for example wasn't too bad, yet yielded a leading scorer with only 8.... the fewest since the 73/74 releagtion season when Peter Eastoe got 8 also.  Difference being there were 3 on 8. What you want at this level is someone who can hold the ball up reasonably well, and get you some goals.... bit like Luke Norris last season. That's a minimum sort of requirement, of course, ideally you'd want something better than Luke, but we have to be realistic.

House, on first impressions might be able to do the job.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Bogus Dave on Tuesday, January 8, 2019, 12:01:44
Wow, we’re really getting the annual  ‘is a 25 goal a season striker a good thing’ debate in early this year, huh?


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: ferret on Tuesday, January 8, 2019, 12:52:26
Wow, we’re really getting the annual  ‘is a 25 goal a season striker a good thing’ debate in early this year, huh?

It looks like it.

I totally understand that a team can sometimes do well without a prolific scorer, and I totally understand that a team with a prolific scorer can sometimes struggle. But, to state the obvious, having a prolific scorer will increase a team's chances of success.

I also understand that a team which has a brilliant target man, who can cope on his own, might get more goals than usual out of midfield. But we don't have one of those (unless House turns out to be one). The likes of Adebayo and Richards have not been offering 101 other attributes to the team. They simply have not been scoring enough goals. Hence one has been sent back, and the other has been struggling for a game.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, January 8, 2019, 13:08:25
When we won this league our top scorer was Connell with 13, we just spread the other goals around which is more how you'd want it in an ideal world.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: ferret on Tuesday, January 8, 2019, 13:13:19
When we won this league our top scorer was Connell with 13, we just spread the other goals around which is more how you'd want it in an ideal world.

Yes but even a striker who was on course for 13 in the season should have 7 or 8 by now. With Adebayo having returned, our outright top league scorer excluding penalties is Taylor, the left back, on 3. It is going to be extremely difficult for a team to succeed with that kind of stat.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, January 8, 2019, 13:13:47
I totally understand that a team can sometimes do well without a prolific scorer, and I totally understand that a team with a prolific scorer can sometimes struggle. But, to state the obvious, having a prolific scorer will increase a team's chances of success.
This. 100%


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, January 8, 2019, 13:15:34
Reg did raise an interesting point, which I think should factor into player recruitment, especially at this level.  The goals from our central defenders, specifically from attacking free kicks and corners.  If you can source a defender who can score you a handful from corners it takes some of the forward pressure off, and given the volume of situations you get (due to erratic defending at times by less competent players at L2 level) it is an area that should come into the equation when deciding who to recruit.

That doesn't stop the obvious point though, that having someone who can score 20 odd goals is clearly an advantage for any team at any level.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Trashbat? on Tuesday, January 8, 2019, 13:22:09
The winner on Saturday was a great example of what we have missed all season by not having a traditional target man in the team. I'm not saying he will change our season, but it helps to have someone that can actually win a header up front.

Imagine the damage Woolery could do running in behind a defence from some flick ons.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, January 8, 2019, 15:51:02
Reg did raise an interesting point, which I think should factor into player recruitment, especially at this level.  The goals from our central defenders, specifically from attacking free kicks and corners.  If you can source a defender who can score you a handful from corners it takes some of the forward pressure off, and given the volume of situations you get (due to erratic defending at times by less competent players at L2 level) it is an area that should come into the equation when deciding who to recruit.

That doesn't stop the obvious point though, that having someone who can score 20 odd goals is clearly an advantage for any team at any level.

When Sturrock pissed Div 4 with Plymuff.... his leading scorer was the new Wovers gaffer, a centre half.  His front man Mickey Evans was one of those journeymen, who worked hard and get some goals but not that many.

The point is that when Brown got shot of Luke N and Mullin, people assumed we'd get something like a replacement for Luke... for whatever reason we didn't. I guess the hope was to get a last season out of Richards, but so far not to be.

If you know there isn't an out and out goalscorer, then you've got to adjust the style of play, and use what you have got accordingly. 

Sometimes then you can find a scorer perhaps previously overlooked, like Alan Mac who'd scored 3 in 45 games for Macari, over 3 seasons having started as a full back but then scored 13 for Ossie in 89/90, playing behind the front 2..... this meant we got a mill for him and he went to the WC.

It's quite common for gaffers to say to players, here's your goal target for the season.... so for example Kyle Knoyle, a useful player and improving.... no reason seemingly why you couldn't get say 3 goals out of him.  Sid Nelson, OK we don't know his future but he attacks the ball, so why not 4 goals from him... McCourt likes a shot, could he get 5?

This is where Brown fell down, it may have been his "clean sheet" mentality, but he never found the syle or maverick punt which compensated for not having a goalscorer.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Oaksey Moonraker on Tuesday, January 8, 2019, 18:49:19
The classic example of goals from other players than strikers being Paul Boson and Shaun Taylor with 13 each in 1992/3. There was a spell in January and February where Bodin scored 5 in 7 including crucial winners in 1-0 victories over Pompey and Wolves.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, January 8, 2019, 21:10:23
The classic example of goals from other players than strikers being Paul Boson and Shaun Taylor with 13 each in 1992/3. There was a spell in January and February where Bodin scored 5 in 7 including crucial winners in 1-0 victories over Pompey and Wolves.

Yes.... an amazing season.

Something which a lot of the younger readers won't know is that arguably our greatest ever side of 68/69, didn't play with a striker as such at all. Peter Noble, who was a slight fella, played as a false 9, but he did score important goals.  We had a more recognised centre forward in Chris Jones, but he didn't always play.  The Don who did provide 20+ goals was an out and out winger.

When Peter left us for Burnley, who played as first a midfielder and then a full back, and took up pen duties, achieving what is considered a record of scoring all the 28 pens he took in his career.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, January 9, 2019, 13:51:08
It would appear that Bolton's chairman is now slowly going round the bend.....

https://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/2019/january/a-note-from-the-chairman2/

He's gone peak Partridge......


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: tans on Wednesday, January 9, 2019, 14:45:20
Ah, but he hasnt stated that a debt from 1958 would stop us signing players, when we had obviously signed hundreds since!


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: bamboonoshop on Wednesday, January 9, 2019, 14:51:06
It would appear that Bolton's chairman is now slowly going round the bend.....

https://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/2019/january/a-note-from-the-chairman2/

He's gone peak Partridge......

While funny for everyone else, statements like this really should not be allowed to go through, in a professional capacity.

Now we know who the real Sir Dread KEN is! Absolutely shambolic at least Power knows when to keep quiet  :D

BWFC has got admin written all over it.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Tails on Wednesday, January 9, 2019, 15:49:17
It would appear that Bolton's chairman is now slowly going round the bend.....

https://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/2019/january/a-note-from-the-chairman2/

He's gone peak Partridge......

Holy fuck.

That is amazing!


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Wednesday, January 9, 2019, 15:51:46
While funny for everyone else, statements like this really should not be allowed to go through, in a professional capacity.

Now we know who the real Sir Dread KEN is! Absolutely shambolic at least Power knows when to keep quiet  :D

BWFC has got admin written all over it.
That is fucking tremendous.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Trashbat? on Wednesday, January 9, 2019, 16:04:06
very odd statement, although would love to know if the stuff about FGR trying to renegotiate the deal was true.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, January 10, 2019, 08:50:07
It would appear that Bolton's chairman is now slowly going round the bend.....

https://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/2019/january/a-note-from-the-chairman2/

He's gone peak Partridge......

the highs of May 2017 and May 2018, the concerts and the rugby league matches.

Yes, I think you might be slightly misjudging what football fans consider highs here Ken.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Peter Venkman on Saturday, January 19, 2019, 10:41:47
I see Jay Emmanuel_Thomas has signed for PTT Rayong in the Thai league 1, perhaps FH can get along and scout him see if hes worth us trying to sign in the summer :D

Surprised to see hes still only just turned 28, would have been the type of striker we could have done with.


Title: Re: The not STFC transfer rumours thread
Post by: Super Hans on Saturday, January 19, 2019, 11:19:16
Nobody could do with a lazy cunt strolling around up front.