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« Reply #6255 on: Thursday, May 18, 2023, 13:16:59 »

Ta, I've said before if City were up to something I strongly suspect every one of the big clubs in the PL plus the big European clubs were doing likewise!

The owners have spent hundreds of millions on sponsorship deals, but they've always pointed to the massive investments subsequently made in facilities in return.  As it boils down to a mixture of the EPL & Man City brand values, then it's a murky old world of opinions.  The baby version of this is FGR at our level, who make a significant amount of their revenue from sponsorship from Ecotricity.  They can always argue that the deal leads to exposure in the National and International press that the local Skip company wouldn't get them, so it's value is much greater for both parties as a result.

The Youth football one is interesting, they pretty much copy and pasted the Barcelona model, before Guardiola moved over.  Given the lack of reputation they had at the time, it would be rather odd for so many players from International locations to suddenly desire a move to rainy Manchester.

The fact everything always looks so obvious but then they win legal arguments goes to show they've played in the right opaque areas of sports financing I guess.
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« Reply #6256 on: Thursday, May 18, 2023, 13:53:16 »

The owners have spent hundreds of millions on sponsorship deals, but they've always pointed to the massive investments subsequently made in facilities in return.

They have spent a sodding fortune regenerating the east end of Manchester, I remember when I used to work on the canals and the area around the Etihad was basically an industrial wasteland that we were not allowed to lone work in, they have spent so much working with Manchester City  Council in the area both on their facilities but also wider regeneration projects.

The net spend over the last 5 seasons is peculiar https://www.football365.com/news/transfers-premier-league-five-year-net-spend-man-utd-man-city albeit I suppose City could be spending a load more on wages than others? 
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« Reply #6257 on: Thursday, May 18, 2023, 14:06:43 »

It did help somewhat that they were handed the stadium though, so they didn't have to fork out so much for that.
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« Reply #6258 on: Thursday, May 18, 2023, 14:28:44 »

They have spent a sodding fortune regenerating the east end of Manchester, I remember when I used to work on the canals and the area around the Etihad was basically an industrial wasteland that we were not allowed to lone work in, they have spent so much working with Manchester City  Council in the area both on their facilities but also wider regeneration projects.

The net spend over the last 5 seasons is peculiar https://www.football365.com/news/transfers-premier-league-five-year-net-spend-man-utd-man-city albeit I suppose City could be spending a load more on wages than others?  

The net spend is still huge, but they do better than the likes of Man Utd because they sell players on at the right time. Like last summer they received  more for Sterling and Jesus than they spent or Phillips and Haaland. When the sell Haaland they'll either triple their money or they'll get 8 seasons out of him and still recoup the outlay
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« Reply #6259 on: Sunday, May 21, 2023, 16:48:07 »

Donít know if this is the right place but the strength of Man Cityís subs bench today v Chelsea

Ederson, Stones, Dias, Rhodri, Grealish, Gundogan, De Bruyne, Silva & Haaland.

Especially when you look at the eleven playing and think itís quite a decent team
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« Reply #6260 on: Sunday, May 21, 2023, 17:05:28 »

People are going to have to get used to the Prem being won by whichever Middle Eastern country is willing to spunk the most oil money on winning the prem whilst pretending that their own human rights issues are normal compared to the country that they own that club in.  Might as well call it the Middle Eastern Premier League.

I think you are going to see more US investment at EFL level as well, jumping on the Deadpool bandwagon - hopefully if we do get sold, we will be one of them.
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« Reply #6261 on: Sunday, May 21, 2023, 17:05:49 »

Donít know if this is the right place but the strength of Man Cityís subs bench today v Chelsea

Ederson, Stones, Dias, Rhodri, Grealish, Gundogan, De Bruyne, Silva & Haaland.

Especially when you look at the eleven playing and think itís quite a decent team

Including the subs that's only a squad of 20😀 The only way around it is to give every play an average points system like they do in speedway so you get penalised if your teams point total is too high. Also years ago you could only play so many foreign players in your starting eleven!
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« Reply #6262 on: Sunday, May 21, 2023, 17:06:45 »

Donít know if this is the right place but the strength of Man Cityís subs bench today v Chelsea

Ederson, Stones, Dias, Rhodri, Grealish, Gundogan, De Bruyne, Silva & Haaland.

Especially when you look at the eleven playing and think itís quite a decent team

All they need now is Shade and they are unstoppable.
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« Reply #6263 on: Sunday, May 21, 2023, 23:28:03 »

People are going to have to get used to the Prem being won by whichever Middle Eastern country is willing to spunk the most oil money on winning the prem whilst pretending that their own human rights issues are normal compared to the country that they own that club in.  Might as well call it the Middle Eastern Premier League.

I think you are going to see more US investment at EFL level as well, jumping on the Deadpool bandwagon - hopefully if we do get sold, we will be one of them.

I'll see if I can have a word with Arthur Blank - we at least share some of the same things as Towns/Cities - both grew due to the Railroads, both saw huge expansion in the 90's, we both have sports teams that use the colour Red, both are well known for crushing their sports fans hopes and dreams on a regular basis.  Atlanta Utd already have some sort of partnership with Aberdeen, so maybe they need an English club.
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« Reply #6264 on: Monday, May 22, 2023, 08:55:19 »

All they need now is Shade and they are unstoppable.

I'm sure a couple of million(*) would persuade us to let him go




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« Reply #6265 on: Monday, May 22, 2023, 09:48:43 »

I'll see if I can have a word with Arthur Blank - we at least share some of the same things as Towns/Cities - both grew due to the Railroads, both saw huge expansion in the 90's, we both have sports teams that use the colour Red, both are well known for crushing their sports fans hopes and dreams on a regular basis.  Atlanta Utd already have some sort of partnership with Aberdeen, so maybe they need an English club.

Aberdeen are the Don's, play in red. We are SwinDON. How much more do you need? Duncan Shearer etc.
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« Reply #6266 on: Monday, May 22, 2023, 09:55:23 »

Aberdeen are the Don's, play in red. We are SwinDON. How much more do you need? Duncan Shearer etc.

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« Reply #6267 on: Monday, May 22, 2023, 10:00:05 »

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« Reply #6268 on: Monday, May 22, 2023, 10:16:09 »

Jerel Ifil!

Bloody hell i forgot he went there!
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« Reply #6269 on: Monday, May 22, 2023, 10:17:50 »

We have MANY links to the other Dons....Miles Storey, Tom Jones, Juan Cobian, Nicky Hammond, Rory Fallon, Adam Rooney and Scotty Leitch.
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