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 31 
 on: Tuesday, March 21, 2023, 09:56:59 
Started by Arriba - Last post by 4D
Haven't been to the new one but the old one was a dump😀

Similar story with this one as well although the surroundings were quite nice!

Went there in 91, non league ground set up.

 32 
 on: Tuesday, March 21, 2023, 09:24:22 
Started by Nemo - Last post by Bogus Dave
Shade looks like a decent agent of chaos option off the bench when the game is ragged, but I’ve not seen much more than that

Unfortunately most of our attack fits that same bracket

 33 
 on: Tuesday, March 21, 2023, 09:14:01 
Started by Nemo - Last post by DMC
He played left back in the first game and never again, done a little bit of filling in at wing back but never got long, but mostly played as a wide forward or centre forward in the PJT. Without looking it up I'd say he's been pissed about positionally less than Ellis, Lavinier and (more recently) Wakeling.
Not exactly great examples to be fair though mate are they.

 34 
 on: Tuesday, March 21, 2023, 09:06:12 
Started by Jimmy QuitMoaning - Last post by derbystfc
We don't have the funds to do a Brighton/Brentford philosophy right away, and we also want to get out of this league, some would argue that it's crucial we get out of the league.

Now I wouldn't entirely scrap the money ball direction either.

Get a team that's going to compete in this league, that's first priority.

Get the right people in (with experience and know how) to look at implementing money ball philosophy, 2nd Priority. also work on the infrastructure.

Start to build the squad with 'Moneyball' type signings, 3rd Priority

Replace old fashioned style squad with more money ball signings when the system is fully in place

It's a slow rebuild I know.

 35 
 on: Tuesday, March 21, 2023, 08:31:00 
Started by Jimmy QuitMoaning - Last post by Pookemon
Yes, I personally think the Brentford comparison is completely ridiculous for the reasons you say. But I was attempting to answer the question on the fans' patience with the 'project' or lack thereof.
A lack of improvement will foster that belief.   We have seen none on or off the pitch this season other than a fantastic balance sheet- which is great - and the stadium purchase, which hasn't yet happened so not tangible or visible to the average punter.

 36 
 on: Tuesday, March 21, 2023, 08:26:24 
Started by Jimmy QuitMoaning - Last post by Mooneyraker
Matthew Benham at Brentford invested millions onto the playing budget to get them into the championship.   They didn't run sustainably like we are trying to - not that I'm against that ambition.

Clem has invested millions too, but almost entirely to clear debt and doesn't have bottomless pockets like other owners to run at a £1m+ loss every year.

Tony Bloom at Brighton invested over £100m to get them where they are now

Both have spent the money wisely and run their clubs well but it wasn't just spreadsheet recruitment that got them both to the promised land.

Yes, I personally think the Brentford comparison is completely ridiculous for the reasons you say. But I was attempting to answer the question on the fans' patience with the 'project' or lack thereof.

 37 
 on: Tuesday, March 21, 2023, 08:25:16 
Started by Batch - Last post by The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey
Woy gets the Palace gig!

 38 
 on: Tuesday, March 21, 2023, 08:21:57 
Started by Jimmy QuitMoaning - Last post by Pookemon
I'm not up on Brentford's history but I think this has something to do with us starting the experiment at what is statistically one of the lowest ebbs in most fans' lifetimes. Patience is thin. Similarly, everyone bought into last year's team only for us to take a sharp left turn. I think a gradual implementation of this plan would have carried more fans along with it.
Matthew Benham at Brentford invested millions onto the playing budget to get them into the championship.   They didn't run sustainably like we are trying to - not that I'm against that ambition.

Clem has invested millions too, but almost entirely to clear debt and doesn't have bottomless pockets like other owners to run at a £1m+ loss every year.

Tony Bloom at Brighton invested over £100m to get them where they are now

Both Brentford and Brighton have spent the money wisely and run their clubs well but it wouldn't have succeeded without the initial cash boost.   You almost certainly need both and a lot of luck to do what they have done.

 39 
 on: Tuesday, March 21, 2023, 07:37:36 
Started by Jimmy QuitMoaning - Last post by Mooneyraker
The attractions are obvious. Brentford fans, in the beginning, were very critical as any decent player was sold if there was a profit to be made. Slowly but surely, better quality players were bought to replace those departing - although the punts started costing money as they weren’t off the radar. No doubt they recruited some players that didn’t work out.

We’re at the stage now where, after one season of it, the fans are getting restless. This approach isn’t going to work overnight but fans are notoriously impatient.

I’d like to know what others think the approach should be.

I'm not up on Brentford's history but I think this has something to do with us starting the experiment at what is statistically one of the lowest ebbs in most fans' lifetimes. Patience is thin. Similarly, everyone bought into last year's team only for us to take a sharp left turn. I think a gradual implementation of this plan would have carried more fans along with it.

 40 
 on: Monday, March 20, 2023, 22:25:32 
Started by Jimmy QuitMoaning - Last post by theakston2k
To come in and take over a team in 6th place and after 9 games basically give up on the season doesn't show him in a particularly positive light does it.....
But he wouldn’t have known they’d be quite as poor as they were and probably thought he could make it work once he got them fit. But now it hasn’t worked the rest of this season is nothing more than preparation for next season so he needs to get the players that will be here next season drilled into his way of playing and the rest of the players are irrelevant and will just make up the numbers.

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