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« Reply #5580 on: Thursday, September 10, 2020, 11:23:48 »

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They have now made it mandatory to wear masks in Turkey in all outside spaces. Fuck going to the beach and having to wear a mask! It is hot enough just in the street as it is!

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« Reply #5581 on: Thursday, September 10, 2020, 11:24:33 »

Bournemouth is available Smiley

Itíll be too cold by the time Iím back in England!!
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« Reply #5582 on: Thursday, September 10, 2020, 11:27:20 »

..... even the govt have admitted that the technology they're relying on doesn't exist yet.....

Takes I back to the days of yore; the fabled Backstop avoiding 'technology' solution from the ERG. Which also doesn't exist yet.
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« Reply #5583 on: Thursday, September 10, 2020, 11:30:14 »

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Itíll be too cold by the time Iím back in England!!

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« Reply #5584 on: Thursday, September 10, 2020, 11:39:34 »


Corrupt as fuck this lot.  And yet the majority of my home town will say, oh old Boris he's a laugh isnt he.  Lets trust him with the stewardship of the country, what could go wrong.

It is this that I just don't get.  Lie after lie, u-turn after u-turn, unfulfilled promise after unfulfilled promise, and still folks support this Govt.  Oven-ready deals (where is that?), a world-beating app (errrrr) and now a Moonshot Testing programme to look forward to.  Does he have a list of superlatives for bollocks that will never be delivered?

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« Reply #5585 on: Thursday, September 10, 2020, 11:44:52 »

It is this that I just don't get.  Lie after lie, u-turn after u-turn, unfulfilled promise after unfulfilled promise, and still folks support this Govt.  Oven-ready deals (where is that?), a world-beating app (errrrr) and now a Moonshot Testing programme to look forward to.  Does he have a list of superlatives for bollocks that will never be delivered?

Awaiting "yeah but, what would Labour/any one else have done better?"

https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/health/search-on-to-find-someone-who-believes-in-this-moonshot-cockrot-20200910200282
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« Reply #5586 on: Thursday, September 10, 2020, 11:57:34 »

£100bn; I'd love to know how that was calculated. Hopefully it was not calculated by the people who were responsible for counting the deaths, items of PPE & suchlike - or Diane Abbott
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« Reply #5587 on: Thursday, September 10, 2020, 12:23:12 »

£100bn; I'd love to know how that was calculated. Hopefully it was not calculated by the people who were responsible for counting the deaths, items of PPE & suchlike - or Diane Abbott
It's the amount Cummings reckons he can steal without anyone batting an eyelid
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« Reply #5588 on: Thursday, September 10, 2020, 12:37:52 »

Or something they can try and fob us off with as the reason why public debt will continue to exceed GDP
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« Reply #5589 on: Friday, September 11, 2020, 10:49:05 »

SAGE warned the govt that the MoonSpaff project could create so many false positives, it could result in 28 million people self-isolating

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/09/10/moonshot-testing-plan-could-send-28-million-needless-self-isolation/
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« Reply #5590 on: Friday, September 11, 2020, 14:34:00 »

R number back above 1 (1-1.2 according to govt, could be as high as 1.7 according to Imperial College) and cases doubling every 7-8 days. We're back where we were in March. And we still don't have an effective Test Trace and Isolate system. Shit.
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« Reply #5591 on: Friday, September 11, 2020, 14:41:34 »

R was worse in march.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/health-52473523

the question is whether deaths now follow or whether the young fend it off and mostly not pass it to the vulnerable
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« Reply #5592 on: Friday, September 11, 2020, 15:02:09 »

R was worse in march.
Sorry I wasn't clear, what I meant was that we're back at the lower end of a steeply climbing slope, rather than that the R rate was identical. There are also several other factors that mean we're much better prepared than we were in March, but a resurgence was always coming and the failure to use the time to adequately prepare a functioning TTI system is criminal.
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« Reply #5593 on: Friday, September 11, 2020, 15:06:35 »

R was worse in march.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/health-52473523

the question is whether deaths now follow or whether the young fend it off and mostly not pass it to the vulnerable

Yes but if need be you can always get the train to Diss is under an hour and half Smiley

Essentially, the Gov have got the "herd immunity" policy they wanted initially by essentially  making the masses feel like that is the way we should've gone. Creating isolated (ironically) social stigma via blurring every fucking line available, in terms of guidance/rules/laws. So you get the public blaming each other instead of pointing the real problem at Government. Fear, uncertainty and doubt. The main principles that will always keep a regime in power.

Their main goal is dividing society rather than governing society because they are absolute piss poor at that. Division keeps them loosely relevant and it keeps the people in the boxes they've made for them; along with the aforementioned F,U & D. Any government likes to keep us categorised of course, but at least let us feel like we aren't part of your game.
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« Reply #5594 on: Friday, September 11, 2020, 15:08:46 »

I will very confidently predict that things will not get anywhere near as bad as they did in March/April, and we wonít need another lockdown to the same extent as we did back then

Thatís not to say things wonít get worse from where we are now (they probably will), nor that we wonít see further tightening of rules about what we can/canít do (which weíll probably get). But estimates on the true number of daily cases at the end of March were 100,000 - 250,000 a DAY. Weíre nowhere near that, and given everything we currently do we wonít get anywhere near that again
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