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« Reply #3345 on: Friday, June 8, 2018, 15:52:07 »

   I'm surprised there's been no comment on Dacre going at The Heil.  The word is that his successor, is a Remainer, he previously edited the MoS.

  Could be a sign that the owners think they've backed the wrong horse and won't be thanked for helping tank the economy.
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« Reply #3346 on: Friday, June 8, 2018, 19:52:28 »

   I'm surprised there's been no comment on Dacre going at The Heil.  The word is that his successor, is a Remainer, he previously edited the MoS.

  Could be a sign that the owners think they've backed the wrong horse and won't be thanked for helping tank the economy.
According to the meeja correspondents on radio this morning, he and Dacre hate each other and even though Dacre has nominally been booted upstairs as Editor in Chief of the whole group, Greig will be reporting directly to the owners. It was being seen as a deliberate attempt to "detoxify" the brand. Good luck with that.
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« Reply #3347 on: Sunday, June 10, 2018, 20:18:27 »

Apart from the fact the Daily Mail has the highest readership in the UK only the Sun and Metro are higher and readership is 3 times the daily mirror
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« Reply #3348 on: Sunday, June 10, 2018, 21:40:23 »

Apart from the fact the Daily Mail has the highest readership in the UK only the Sun and Metro are higher and readership is 3 times the daily mirror
OMG, Plowman, Horlock et al will choke on their bread & dripping or gruel in the morning at that stunning news. Mind you at the price the Metro charge unless you get a freebie that is bigging their readership up a bit much.
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« Reply #3349 on: Monday, June 11, 2018, 06:16:16 »

Apart from the fact the Daily Mail has the highest readership in the UK only the Sun and Metro are higher and readership is 3 times the daily mirror

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« Reply #3350 on: Monday, June 11, 2018, 09:32:21 »

Apart from the fact the Daily Mail has the highest readership in the UK only the Sun and Metro are higher and readership is 3 times the daily mirror
And?
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« Reply #3351 on: Monday, June 11, 2018, 12:32:59 »

Apart from the fact the Daily Mail has the highest readership in the UK only the Sun and Metro are higher and readership is 3 times the daily mirror

People slow down to see car accidents on the motorway, it doesn't mean they like them and want to be in them.
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« Reply #3352 on: Monday, June 11, 2018, 16:57:17 »

It’s all about opinions same as any newspaper.

Just because you lot don’t like or agree with it does not mean others don’t
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« Reply #3353 on: Monday, June 11, 2018, 18:26:02 »

Yep.

I've always maintained that as vile as the Daily Mail is, the 'real' problem is that so many people buy the fucking thing. That it's so popular is a sad reflection on society.
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« Reply #3354 on: Monday, June 11, 2018, 18:31:24 »

So people are idiots.
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« Reply #3355 on: Monday, June 11, 2018, 19:47:29 »

Yep.

I've always maintained that as vile as the Daily Mail is, the 'real' problem is that so many people buy the fucking thing. That it's so popular is a sad reflection on society.

The question as to whether the petty bigotry and small minded xenophobia of the average Mail reader is driven by the paper and its editor or the paper just panders to its readers' prejudices is interesting.
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« Reply #3356 on: Monday, June 11, 2018, 20:32:35 »

People like people like themselves, therefore, prejudice is never far away without reliable information.

The Daily Mail knows this, and can present a Bogeyman approach, but they are not alone.  We do it ourselves in conversation, just to to the same extreme the media can manage.

Take immigration - how the hell do millions of people "KNOW" that immigration results in jobs being taken away, or undue pressure on the NHS etc.  Do they physically see it happening - rarely.  But maybe they know someone who did know someone who did lose their job and someone who wasn't the same as them got the job later.  Already this plays on our own fears of not being so keen on people not like ourselves.  The Daily Mail can come along and sprinkle the opposite of fairy dust on this conversation without even the need for facts most of the time and make anecdotes become the norm.

So, people have the ability to be racist, to be fearful of others.  It's natural - The Daily Mail is an abomination because it sets out specifically to stoke those fears and inflate them, then to reinforce them.

The Daily Mirror is precisely the same the other way around in Political terms.  The whole new Populist movement is playing off of it as well.  Life becomes simple when simple solutions to problems are presented which also play to primal fears.  Cameron's ex-mate Hilton is over here spouting this shit on Fox News - someone is to blame for everyone who doesn't have a job, it's the Globalist Elite (of which he is part, by any definition that can be created).  It's the new Muslim invasion, or East European, or Technology/Automation, or people inventing bloody wheels, or those Celts, or Romans, and so on.
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« Reply #3357 on: Monday, June 11, 2018, 20:44:58 »

It’s all about opinions same as any newspaper.

Just because you lot don’t like or agree with it does not mean others don’t
Which is fine. But it's got fuck all to do with the BBC's media correspondent's take on what replacing Dacre with Greig might indicate in terms of the Mail's future stance, which I thought was quite interesting. You might too if you'd read the post properly instead of knee-jerking
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« Reply #3358 on: Monday, June 11, 2018, 21:54:04 »

But you then went on to talk about how toxic the Mail is and that it may change it’s referendum stance with a new guy in charge.

And then on this forum you all spoke about it detoxifying the mail brand.

Truth is you hate anyone who does not share your opinions and views- people share different political views it does not mean anyone is right or wrong
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« Reply #3359 on: Monday, June 11, 2018, 22:23:57 »

But you then went on to talk about how toxic the Mail is and that it may change it’s referendum stance with a new guy in charge.

And then on this forum you all spoke about it detoxifying the mail brand.

Truth is you hate anyone who does not share your opinions and views- people share different political views it does not mean anyone is right or wrong

The Mail lies/misrepresents things to suit their agenda. It's not about not agreeing with an opinion.
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