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I haven't started one of these in a while, so maybe we're due our first league win today.  I'll predict a nervy 2-1 win.  Charlie and Vince to score, and Sutton to arrive hammered in Carlisle after drinking the buffet car dry.

On a very busy 0830 train from Euston. Think 1-1 with Vince putting us ahead.

tough game today.  normally a draw would be a good result  but I think we need a win to  keep the momentum.  however I have got up in a bad mood, a  loss is predicted. 3 1 

I'm not as confident as I was against the Saints, but I don't think we'll lose today.

1-1 or a 1-0 win. Pericard!

2-0

Austin, Pericard

5 - 0

Peri Peri 5. Let's not fuck about.

darn, I was going to start the thread after my thread on Tuesday night culminated in a 3-0 win for the Town.

2-0 Town, Austin and Pericard.

If it's not got "Official" in it I'm not posting in it.

So there!

I have a headache... 2-1 to the Cumbrians.

Tough game this. We could really do with a first league win to carry on the momentum from Tuesday, but i would be happy with a draw.

Was gonna go, but thought better of it!

I vote you start the "official" one and lock this. What with superstitions being what they are it might be a good idea. :D

Abott's really done quite a goodf job over the summer, assembled a squad of decent players for next to nothing. The recent addition of Michalik will be a bonus for them, he is a tank!

But i'm confident we can win it, and condemn them to their first defeat of the season. 2-1 Swindon win, Austin brace with a late Zoko consolation.

The loss of Harte will be a blow to them...suprising move to Reading.
If we can get an early goal we could sneak it...they are not prolific scorers but Abott has done wonders with them....like him as a manager.
Come on Town.

2-0 to Carlisle, that is all.

Apparently they got 500k for Harte, that's a damned good fee for a 33 year old.

The local paper in Reading says they signed Harte for £100k.

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The 9.30 is where its. At! 3-1 win

fancy a 2 nil win with Prutton and Charlie scoring

I wonder who Wilson is going to plump for.  After Peri's showing on Tuesday it'd be harsh not to start him, but with Dossevi declining Togo's call-up maybe Wilson may feel obliged to start with Dossevi up top.  Personally, I'd love to see big Vince get his chance.  I thought he showed some great touches at MK and looked almost dangerous when he came on.

Still, I can't see a Swindon win today, though we really need to start getting points on the board.  3-1 Carlyle.

Comfortable Swindon win. 3-1 town. Ferry and Pericard to start please. Pericard scores first from just inside the box into bottom left after a mix-up between the defender and keeper.

back to earth with a bump. 2-0 to carlisle

F##k off, Baz.  My thread starting initiative was a stroke of genius.  I have an unsulied record and, if we get our first three points of the season this afternoon, you'll be begging me to start this thread every week.

To be honest I dont think DW would ever feel obliged to pick anyone.My guess is Prutton will start.

Came up here last night, had a beautiful morning walking round whinlatter and derwentwater, its fucking gorgeous up here seems a shame to piss off to the football in a bit.

Not sure what to expect from this game. We have a bit more confidence now hopefully but Carlisle have started well and espeically on their own patch look a very good side. It'll be interesting to see what Wilson starts with. Will he go with the diamond perhaps and play JD at the defence point with Prutton and Ferry in the middle and JP as the AM? Or will he go for the 4-4-2. I'd like to think Vince will start this one after Tuesday night and going back to one of his former clubs he'll want to impress.

Local paper billboards

Pericard - Utd saved my career.

Haven't forked out for one.

http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/carlisle-united/latest/vincent-pericard-carlisle-united-saved-my-career-1.754598?referrerPath=carlisle_united

Local Swindon billboard headlines..............Sneak Preview of new Swindon Store.
God help us.

Doss instead of JP in the Diamond for me, JP was rotten last week at MK

Morgan and Hartley back on commentary. Oh joy.

The same side that started on Tuesday apparently..not confirmed yet.

Id be surprised if Timlin starts over AOB, but if he does fair play to him, well done!

Confirmed on OS...very brave!

Well we can't really knock DW for naming the same team that won on Tuesday. No Prutton or Rose again.....yay!

Rose not even on the bench and there was me thinking he was just merely a scapegoat for the sake of it.

I think DW's done the right thing...never change a winning team :nod:

Is Sheehan on the bench?

Good on him keeping the same team.
I like Rose....he will get another chance..not a fan of Timlin myself...........so that means get on him to score first!

He is Iffy

Is Dougie fit or is Evans playing?

Fair play Danny, lets hope they play as well as they did on Tuesday.

same team that started tuesday, good call.

Yes

TOWN (4-3-1-2): David Lucas; Kevin Amankwaah, Scott Cuhbert, Sean Morrison, Callum Kennedy; Simon Ferry, Jonathan Douglas, Michael Timlin; Jon-Paul McGovern; Vincent Pericard, Charlie Austin.

Substitutes: Phil Smith, Lecsinel Jean-Francois, Alan Sheehan, David Prutton, Alan O'Brien, David Ball, Thomas Dossevi

Poor old Evans not even on the bench. Oh well, his time will come.

Big thumbs up for Morrison and Kennedy.....what a bench as well.

Strong bench there too. Good stuff.

Can't remember we had a bench looking as strong as that. Think we were lacking that a bit last year to be honest, but theres potential game changers waiting to go there, optimistic for today   :D

All 4 sky pundits predicting a Carlisle win!

And WTF do they know. Carlisle have sold their best player in Harte to the plastics.

The only pundit on Sky that knows anything below the Championship is Jeff Stelling.

I think it's fair to predict a home win. Not saying we can't win there but the odds are in Carlisle's favour.

they know we are 20th without a win and Carlisle are 2nd. I doubt their thought process went any deeper than that.

Correct....all four would have predicted a win for Southampton on tuesday.

And we all know wat happened there...

No, what happened?

Fuck them all, bunch of CUNTS!

Wasnt it a TEF'er who bet him to mention the octopus?

Axs I think

I bet Vic that he couldn't go a whole match without confusing the audience about what team had scored.

Epic Banter

Here we go then, come on Peri Peri!

Why has Plymouth V Brighton been postponed?

Internationals?

Frozen pitch!

Probably international call-ups...

Ah right.

According to sky after 3 mins they are the much better team  :)

When you say 'they' I assume you mean 'we'?

Rovers one up

No carlisle

alas no. Scott Minto is watching our game in the sky studio.

Your use of the  :) confused me  :no:

Haha sorry was trying to mock him saying the much better team after only 3 mins.

Sounds like Manks is having a bit of a tough time.

I'm listening to the carslile commentary. They are very happy chaps

Not many goals going in this afternoon.

Pox 1 nil up.

Lovely line-up, feel sorry for Dossevi though!  Could have been in Togo....  Think he may be more influential "in the hole" than McGovern.  Grr my lodger's just announced she's moving out...  my super accumulator better come in!

DAG vs leyton orient
OLDHAM vs wovers
SOUTHAMPTON vs rochdale
tranmere vs PETERBORO
walsall vs COLCHESTER
acc. stanley vs WYCOMBE
bradford vs PORT VALE
BURY vs GILLINGHAM

73p wins £386.40

Cuntstable scores a 2nd for Pox

Lucas down....

He is a fragile bloke for such a big unit

i blame Phil Smith

The big man is OK

The commentator's talking about the Carlisle ground and weird stands wants to make me hang myself.

We've got Charlie Nicholas up front now.

Carlisle sound useful. Could do with a Town goal to see what they're really made of.

Have I missed much?

Good game but not many chances by the sound of it. Carlisle just about on top.

Boring to listen to

kennedy was double teamed. hahaha

Carlisle with the better possession but us with the better chances according to Sky Sports.

They just mentioned a London Reds flag on the radio. Isnt that Suttons lot?

Oldham equalise against Rovers.

Southampton and Peterboro losing

Are you allowed to say 'couldn't give a toss' on the radio at 4 in the afternoon?

Anyone know of a free sky sports news stream?

Was just looking myself no luck yet!

Loved Jeff Stelling little rant at the ref for the Hartlepool game. Don't blame him though, Sean O'Hanlon was a lucky bugger to get away with that!

Fully agree Luci, but I then remember the penalty Hartlepool got at the CG a few seasons back in the last minute, when the only person who thought it was a pen was the ref, and that included the Hartlepool players, and in the end that pen kept them up that season.

Was that the Jerel Ifil high foot penalty?

264 away fans.

Yes, but the incident took outside the box. Even the Hartlepool players placed the ball outside the box.

Sounds like Sheehan is about to make his debut!

Sheehan is indeed coming on. Kennedy off.

Sheehan coming on... Kennedy off, sounds like he's had a good game...

We are in 22nd place as it stands  :cry:

Just got in, I take it from only 7 pages I haven't missed much?

Strange sub. It's hard to tell what exactly is going on though, so who knows. I can't tell whether we're weak in midfield or at the back, but the ball doesn't seem to be getting to the front 2 much.

Nope. Nothing at all really.

I was quite shocked when he said that!

Michael Bolocheweckyj sent off for forfar!  ???

I certainly havent heard Timlin, Douglas or Ferry mentioned very often.

David Ball warming up.

Early days to look at the table, but we could really do with winning today. Thankfully Brentford aren't playing today so we can't go bottom.

Morgan just came in his pants again.

Lucas forced into a good save after a Ferry gave the ball away.

We nearly went one down. Good save Lucas.

Bloody hell I nearly had a heart attack there, a good save from Lucas I gather.

Ball for Pericard.

Ball on for Pericard.

...and...thats a good header just over the bar from Amankwaah...

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...
..
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thats a corner

ah right, so it was a defensive header - glad we got there eventually.

Austin has an open goal and doesn't take a shot?

What is this, I don't even?

Rochdale 2-0 up at the South Coast Club.

Odd substitutions - Kennedy sounded like our best player, and thought Dossevi would get the nod if a forward substitution was made, in view of his sacrificing his international chance

AOB on now.

time for the pace!

Dossevi wont get a game - cant imagine he'll be very happy   :(

Come on Town.

Game sounds likes its died off

I feel asleep for the last ten mins, guess nothing  has happened.

4 mins extra

Charlie misses??????

Austin misses a good chance


GAHWDKLAS AW AWF@AWD awfawd

FFS!

fuck sake...

charlie missed a sitter   :cry:

AAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!

Thought we'd scored. Bollocks.

Oh, and we're 23rd in the table now.

another...

Missed another.

just score for ffs.

Dosevvi and Pericard to start next game :)

And another
 
Hutchinson scores, Austin misses. Does anyone else think the ground is a bit chilly all of a sudden?

that'll be that then...

I would've taken a point before the game.

meeeeeh

Bollocks. Not sure if i'm pleased with a point or not. Tough place to go and would have taken it before the game but we're still without a bloody win. That said 2 clean sheets in 2 games away from home. That's improvement at least.

I'd rather have had the win today than tuesday.

We're definitely improving with each game, surely can't be long for a win? :).

Oh well, I'd have taken a point before the game and System, please stop the stupid fishing thing. 23rd? If we were 24th and 3 points off 23rd I wouldn't be bothered.

I'm glad it's Southampton next cause we need the guaranteed 3 points.

Guaranteed loss next week now then.

Happy with that. Another clean sheat and clearly created chances

Really? That suprises me.

After the start we've had, two tough away games and two clean sheets this week, sounds like we had a fair few chances second half as well. For me that's progress and something to build on. With this side I have no doubt the goals will come most days, more important to see the defence tightening up for me.

These are the important points!

Not fishing, it's a fact. I didn't say we're 23rd in the table and doomed or anything.

For the fact most of us have moaned about the defence and not getting in an experienced centre back, two clean sheets away from home is fantastic and hopefully that can continue.

The last two results can form the foundations of something better.

I'm impressed some of the people texting Radio Swindon can operate a mobile phone.

Good point...funny how the defence gets all the shit.
Strikers are not doing what they are paid for in the lge...................yet.
Like i said a really good point up there but three clear cut chances not put away in the second half.
Lets not forget Saints beat Rovers 4-0 last week...will not be easy next weekend.
Been a poor start for us in all fairness............lets hope we can grab a win next week

Coming up on sky sports i think

And got dicked 3-0 midweek and lost at home to rochdale today. If they don' have a new manager next week i really fancy us

Think we are due to really give someone a beating...sounds like we were the better team overall today.
Just want a win Dave to put us on our way.............1-0 and an own goal will do!

Looked to me like a Wembley type bobble.

well that was worse than last week. Was told today that wilsons minimum targets given to wilson are playoffs and the quarter finals of 1 cup competition. He had better turn this around quickly

How?

In what way imagineable was that worse than last week?

did either of you go

Did you?

People have grounds to argue whether you did unless you can elaborate on why that was worse than last week.

It must have been absolutely dire to be worse than last week. Last wek was 100% shiteness.

I would of thought however that a point gained away at Carlisle and a clean sheet as well is more positive than the debacle I witnessed at mk.

Another clean sheet away from home is obviously a good thing, but it's only completely worthwhile if we score down the other end.  Maybe a point would have been taken by most of us before the game, but I thought we would use the momentum from Tuesday night and push on and get the first win.  The worrying thing for me is that the teams we've dropped points against so far are teams we were beating last season.  We haven't come against any of the so called tougher sides in the league yet!

I don't feel as confident as some about next Saturday either.  Southampton will be trying to end a bad run themselves and have definitely got something to prove against us.  I honestly think if we don't pick up 3 points next week, Wilson's position might be under threat, which will be a real shame.  However 3 points out of 15 against some of the teams we'e played is clearly not good enough.

Sonicyouth to start the matchday thread please, as he's been our only matchwinner so far?!

Exactly.

How the fuck can a 0-0 away draw be as bad or worse than a 2-1 defeat?

Good result against a decent side away from home. Plus back to back clean sheets. What more could you want?

A Pericard hat trick?  ;)

Probably stating the obvious here, but a win and 3 points?  :)

This.

1 point > 0 points

I knew someone would say that  ;)

better than i thought we'd get.that said after seeing austins chance we could have nicked it.
watched supermarine today so didn't listen to the game,but on the way back heard the numerous players given their chance got subbed.
dunno what to read into that apart from negatives(for them at least)
think we'll batter southampton next week who seem in a right fucking mess.

Pleased with the clean sheet and the fact that we are creating alot more chances.

Will be nice to hear the views of people who went, but Callum sounded very unlucky to be taken off. Can understand AOB for Timlin, but DW does leave himself open to criticism when it comes to subs sometimes

Kennedy sounded good. But Sheehan offers alot more of an attacking threat..

As already stated a point is better than no points, and two clean sheets on the bounce. Having said that it's the first game we haven't scored in, so disappointing in that respect, think DW is still trying to work out his best front pair

Poole beat Alton 4-0 must confess tho I spent most of my time checking the beeb site for the latest Lge 1 scores. I'm turning into one of those twats that spend all their time on the phone

See you all next Saturday

@leefer Brock didn't appear to have a league game this week

Cheers...think the oponents had a cup game..
Ring you with regards Southampton.

Can you pm me your addy inc postcode for satnav purposes? Reckon I'll be leaving B'mth around 9am

No probs....just off out so PM you tomorow.

Happy with a draw. Not an easy place to go and we kept another clean sheet.

Defence is starting to look stronger.

right back in keswick, tea digested.....

bit of a stalemate really, no one really took the game by the scruff of the neck, however we should have won. Austin should have had a hat trick and the miss at the end was bloody awful.

Back 4 looked ok, in fact everyone played ok, the only person who was a slight let down was douglas. Everyone played ok but no one played well.

we finished the stronger, carlisle had a lot of possesion and 11 corners in the second half but they were never a threat, the closest opportunity was a scuffed clearence from a cross from morrisson and lucas made a fantastic reflex save from it.

we should have had 3 points but a point away at carlisle is no bad thing.

just read the thread back and bart you are talking shit :)

kennedy looked knackered and sheehan look assured and there was no threat down their right side when he came on. Thought Ball looked good when he came on.

A decent point and a clean sheet is always good away from home.

According to 5Live,  Saints are likely to have a new manager by next saturday.

By the press that could be Phil Brown.

i hope not.was gonna have a cheeky tenner on him as soon as twat face got the sack.his price will have plumetted now

Hope they appoint Phil Brown.  Another mediocre manager, cant see him taking Saints up

Good news for any suicidal people in the Southamtpon area that.

Even better news for the sinned and tanning salons.

Phil Brown? I really dislike him. Hope Saints fans have similar feelings to me, because then it'll provide a wonderfully turbulent season.


That's the trouble with listening to it on the radio, you have no idea if a player looks tired or not and question things that actually you have no idea of. I'm glad the reasons were genuine and not inline with any TEF speculation.

Another good thing about today, with none of the so called "Big Leagues" in action 5Live had to report on Leagues One and Two otherwise they would have had nothing to talk about. I liked it

Watching the game today the most worrying thing was the form of Douglas. Although winning more than his fair share of headers in midfield he gave the ball away too many times when doing the simple things. I would have Morrison as MOTM which again concerns as it seems it's the defence that have been picking up that accolade which suggests we're under pressure too much. Didn't think at anytime that Carlisle looked likely to score but neither did we until the end. On the plus side both Kennedy and Sheehan looked comfortable on the left side and Ball looked lively when he came on. After the late flurry it feels more like two points lost than a point gained and shows that league position isn't necessarily the best basis for the Sky pundits to base their predictions on!

That could be re-phrased to "One has no idea what the fuck is going on when Vic Morgan is commentating"

agree about douglas, gave away the ball far too cheaply far too many times, a couple of occassions really put us in trouble. I would play prutton instaed of him next week.

Would of being a good eyed ear so it maked sense a swell! :)

Can anybody else make sense of this sentence?

Would you perchance be drunk Mr. Scott?

Would have been a good idea so it made sense as well.

He was being ironic

Oh

I've just been whooshed, haven't I?

just seen the league table.early days for sure,but does not make good reading.

Don't think I've ever seen us lose at home, so the odds are good for next Saturday

Let's not panic. In actual fact I know people have spoken about Millwall starting poor last season but so did Saints. I don't think they won any of their first 10 games actually. There's a long long way to go yet.

Didn't Saints have a ten point deduction also

Strangely although we could go bottom tomorrow I am less concerned than this time last week.

Good point today.

It isn't inevitable that because we may be at the foot of the table by tomorrow we'll stay there.

Nevertheless, a look at last season's table at the same time shows that mostly clubs finish more or less in the same sort of area, but there are exceptions Norwich went from mid tablish to win the league and Stockport the other way. I'm discounting Soton because of the deduction.

But Saints without the deduction would have still been in the bottom 4 after 10 games. And they'd have finished in the top 6 after the final game....

Its a valid point, I just think though that the deduction distorts the usual way a season evolves.

As I've said it isn't inevitable we'll stay down here....just that it usually indicates a less good season.  We're still in the JPT mind.....

miserable cunt!

I just need this very weak excuse to re-post one of the funniest things I've seen on the net in the last year.

http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/5988485/ (http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/5988485/)

Word to DV.

Oh and I will take a point away at Carlisle thank you. A win would have been a bonus, Charlie's and a couple of other misses are fine.

Fantastic :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

i'm sure charlie would beg to differ.

Your no doubt right arriba, no one likes to miss a chance

I was talking about their girlfriends, cricket hater.

you always are.pervert

So you don't look at 'other' women then, Arriba? Fancy one up the bum from some gay poof then?

Or a straight poof

Didn't go and didn't listen, so my view is probably irrelevant... poor result, embarrassing that we still haven't won, Austin's miss was fucking abysmal, our league position even at this early stage is unacceptable.

This isn't what I was looking forward to.

where were millwall at this stage last season reg?

Was a decent performance, as Carlisle looked useful. No way will we be down the bottom based on yesterdays showing. Morrison played very well, I'd say Douglas was our worst player, all in all, it was nearly the perfect away performance.

Perhaps a language barrier has been the problem so far??

Decent point, Charlie must have had memories of Wembley flood back after that chance at the end.

Seems there are enough positives to take from that game. Now to beat Saints again.

Austin left the pitch at the end with his shirt pulled over his head, clearly pissed off by the 2 misses.

Millwall were 9th. Of the other PO teams Charlton were 1st, Hudds 4th and we were 8th.

Did you not see the massive bobble it took?  He is excused of that miss

fuck me you bite so easily.first from a tounge in cheek cricket comment.then after responding in the manner i was addressed, you still come back with more.
good stuff..

Just seen the highlights, look like Charlies bobbled on him.....

Balls chance looked easier........got a feeling Howe from Bournemouth may jump ship to Southampton.
Very good manager........lets hope if he does they are still in a fair amount of turmoil come Saturday.
They looked awfull yesterday.

Oh. I thought they had a worse start than that.

Looks like Sky's preseason prediction of 14th isn't looking so stupid after all.

Wembley all over again wasn't it?

I can't see Howe going to Saints. He's a Bournemouth legend and Bournemouth through and through.

Saints were dire yesterday. At the back they look like us a few weeks back. Still look pretty handy going forward though at times. Could be a close game next week.

Tisdale ruled himself out at the weekend. Pretty sure Howe will do the same.

Agreed Onion.........though a contract offering him maybe six times what he is on now may test his resolve.

yeah but I expect Pardew having a decent season, winning the piss poor paint pot, winning 4-0 and then being sacked will play heavily on his mind.

I mean who wants to go into a club where the expectation levels are that high.

Someone like Eddie Howe would earn more than he does at Bournemouth - but could be out of a job by Christmas if Southampton arent promoted!!!

Know what you are saying Dave.
But it is obvious Pardew was sacked for something unrelated to the playing performances surely?
They had just won 4-0 at Rovers.....Howe isn't a big name and would be under less pressure,wouldn't suprise me if he jumped ship at all.

Unfortunatley so. Sat right up for him, looked like he struck it with his ankle.

missed a couple of sitters yesterday and should have won the game comfortably but at the end of the day a draw away from home is better that a kick in the nuts and another positive to take into account is thats the second clean sheet we have kept this week so a massive improvement and im sure we will start climbing up the table over the next few weeks

The timing would suggest you are right - but I wouldnt say it was obvious something had gone on. The Southampton chairman doesnt really have a clue.

In his eyes Pardew failed last season by not getting Southampton promoted and he failed again this year by only having 4 points from 4 games.

Make no mistake, whoever they bring in will be under a ton of pressure. Their chairman expects them to get promoted.

Howe turned down Peterborough in January to stay at Bournemouth - he played all but about 2 games of his career at Bournemouth - I dont think he is going anywhere.

Didn't know that he had turned down Posh..we will find out soon enough.

i think pardew would have got them promoted.now i'm not so sure they will do anything

Sorry if it's been posted but highlights are on iPlayer at 13 min 45 sec in the Football League show...

I watched it last night. What shit highlights! Only showed two chances and the first of those was Ball. Did nothing happen before he came on?!

So Dossevi picks Town over international duty.........and remains firmly seated on the bench throughout!
Will be interesting to see his reaction next time he gets a call up.

Latest - Brentford 1-0 Sheffield Wednesday

Bottom of the league  :girlgiggle:

There was an article in a paper (not sure which one) that said it was nothing to do with results and that they waited until they won a game before sacking so no one thought that was the case. Gave the impression the Chairman thought Pardew was too big for his boots and wants a lap dog that will jump to attention and do as he says, with O'Neill ruled out for exactly the same reason.

Ridiculous decision though. Pardew would have got them promoted, now they're in the same position as this time last season - in serious need of things to turn round quickly or they won't get anywhere near the promotion places.

We are bottom of the league, say we are bottom of the league!

Only way is up....

the football league is upside down.

Haha quality. As if care much for the league table after 5 games.

A few points....

Hats off to all of you who went....My old mate Lenny fly up on Friday night.

Sounds as if we played well enough and deserved a point.

Bottom of the league but im not panicing yet.

Highlights on BBC show were shite.....did'nt JPM hit the angle????

Roll on Saints  but we need a win to steady the ship.

The last time we were at the foot of this league after 5 games, 30 years ago (80/81) we didn't go down, stayed up on the last game of the season.

However the only other time in the intervening years was 93/94 and we did go down.

We're doomed.

Thats it now, we're down. I ain't coming again.

Playing devils advocate at what point do we start to worry though?

After another 3 or 4 games for me.

You're not already?

I never panic. Football is my escapism, it's just amazing when Swindon do well :)

November.

We'll be fine, first game for me but I saw enough to show we'll be up there, we just need that first win. Was speaking to several Carlisle fans after the game, they said we were the best side they have  played and are convinced we'll be top 6. The defence looks solid, think we just need to get our best midfield worked out then we'll fly.

Last season, we were dropping points all the way until christmas when Charlie arrived and started banging them in.

We'll start clicking much, much sooner this season.

Also the only team in League 1 without a win unless I'm mistaken?  :(

Thank goodness for that! Now we've got something to look forward to.

You've just reminded me of that season under King where we had a dreadful start and lost 2-0 at Cheltenham that match when Gurney went off on one. I think we'd lost 6 in a row by that point. We went on to finish 10th in the end. Another season which proves that even in September your league position doesn't guarantee anything. I'm not sure if we were ever bottom that season though but we couldn't have been far off it after those 6 losses.

I like it when we are crap. Victory is so much sweeter

We try not to. I'm confident it'll all come together soon

whilst i'm sure we wont be in a relegation scrap,i'm also sure we wont be anywhere near the promotion places either.
what do you lot think we are going to do this season?
is anything other than a promotion push good enough?

A lot could depend on say a good cup run maybe.
Got to say it has been a bit of a shock for me.....really expected us to fly out of the traps yet cannot see us putting a run of wins together which will be needed for a promotion push,we have some quality players but my opinion is untill we get someone to take the weight of burden away from Austin we will struggle.
I like both Pericard and Dossevi but it is obvious they wont score enough goals when Austin dont fire.
And what will happen if Austin gets injured i dread to think.

I don't have a clue. There's 41 games left. I thought we'd be mid table in October last year so it's pointless saying just yet.

12th
no

No idea yet....it's too early to tell. We could do with a winning run asap though.

Personally I've long given up having any major expectations, it's what the Board think that is important.

What Reg said.

Many won't agree but if we don't get a few results in the next few games then Wilson will be in a dodgy position. He has spent a bit of cash and not replaced adequatly(yet).

He needs to get Douglas back on form asap as we are missing him really.

I'm still optimisitc of the play offs - and I've not been on the bottle. We're not far off being a good team and dropping Rose amd Prutton was a good start to sorting ourselves out. There is something missing at the moment but if it clicks for us we're going to give someone a good shoeing this year and I think we're capable of going on a good run. Maybe I'm wrong but I'm still hopeful. 

Most should agree. 5 games without a win is bad enough, a couple more and he's in very dodgy territory.

All this crap about waiting to gell annoys me - that part of pre-season. You get your players in, give them games to gell and get them fit. I appreciated alot of our new players ended up here later - Dossevi, Ferry, Caddis but thats still poor management on our part, should have pushed the deals through alot earlier.

Don't agree at all Dave. Early season form is often erratic regardless. Some teams over achieve, some under.  If a player is only available in the last week before the deadline then so be it.

Tbf though Batch Wilson and Fitton were the ones banging on all summer about bringing in better players and getting off to a better start than last season.

The late arrival of Caddis and company was a pain in terms of pre-season preparation etc, but I think Fitton and Wilson are playing hard ball when it comes to bringing players in. If someone is borderline or fucks us about (Gow) they dont get through the door.

The knock-on to that is that the side takes a while to sort its self out, results are patchy or shite and they come under pressure and scrutiny from keyboard cunts like us.

I'd rather have it like that and build slower than I and everyone else would like, if thats what it takes to get things right long term.

Wilson will obviously be under a lot of pressure at the moment, but he'll be handling that fine.

I'm impressed that we kept Charlie on TDD and that Fitton effectively told chancers like Millwall to fuck off. No doubt the lad will go at some point, but I also have no doubt we'll get the right money for him with sell-ons and that Charlie will get to join a club that suits him and his career development.

Bottom of the fucking league hurts like fuck, but we have enough quality to piss this league. No doubt in my mind that we'll up and running in the next couple of games.

chill cuntfucks, we are starting to play well again, only 7 points off top of table

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I agree with that actually. I thought at the start of the season that we had a very, very decent set of players and a very, very good manager. I still think that. Some times you will get a few bad performances/results and it doesn't mean the players are suddenly not good enough or the manager has 'lost the plot' (a firm favourite on the 'thisis' board) There is no way anyone should even be thinking of Wilson being in the 'Hot Seat'. And I don't give a fuck what anyone else says, it can and does take time for players to gel - sometimes longer than others. Players are NOT components which you can just plug in. Of course, if Dave was in charge, he would have 'pushed the deals through a lot sooner'...(like Wilson and Fitton didn't try to do that ::))...this management lark is a piece of piss when you're sat behind a keyboard isn't it?

I am as fucked off as the next person about how the season has started and I will admit to being slightly concerned looking at the table and seeing us bottom. Not that I am worried about relegation, but it is a hell of a difficult place to launch a promotion campaign from.

That said, I am sure we are good enough to put a decent run of results together (we've already had two in the last two games) and I am sure we will do that. In a month's time the table will look a lot different.

We have lost 1 in the last 5, if this form was in mid season nobody would say a thing. The fact it has come about in the first few games means the leage table is exagerated. In real terms we would have dropped maybe 3-4 positions but certainly not be bottom. Plenty of time yet, ahem.

We started slowly last season, and it all worked out reasonably well in the end. Keep the faith.....

If we are bottom come January then maybe start panicking a little but theres 41 games left FFS.

Keep the faith.

Some very measured comments on here, which is good to see.  No need to panic yet, although I'm sure that DW will be aware that if we're still in the bottom 4 after another 5 games, questions will start to be asked.  For what it's worth, I don't think it will come to that.

Me either Ardiles. Plenty of positive comments coming from teams we have played so far,it will does stink of last season when we just were not taking our chances doesn't it.

My only slight concern is last year when that was the case we were able to bring in players who changed our fortunes i just hope we can do that this year and also like i said we desperatly need Douglas to start playing again like he did last year.

From what i have seen, i am not worried.

Under Malpas i shit myself from the first game until the last...woeful....

Long old season yet and after looking at 'table toppers' Wednesday yesterday i am even more confident!

It was always going to take time for the new bodies to gel. Wilson knows what this division is all about and under his leadership I find it very difficult to take our league position seriously at the moment.

We're only 3 points off of mid-table, and a further 3 off the top 6. Way too early to start panicking.

Exactly. From what I remember, 'udders were something like 10 points off 6th with 6 games to go at the end of last season...

Oh stop it with the fact and logic would ya'. Why spoil a good panic?

We first registered interest in Simon Ferry last year and Paul Caddis in January. It was no secret that we wanted to sign these players and it was fairly obvious Celtic wanted to sell. I know its not as simple as just 'getting it done' but we should have had them both in before the end of July.

Other clubs managed to identify the players they wanted, get the deal done and have them playing in pre-season less than a week later.

You've answered your own question. Who knows why we didn't get them in for pre-season. But I'm sure there was a good reason rather than 'can't be bothered'. I suspect Celtic made them go on tour to make up the numbers.

you do realise FM2010 isn't real don't you?

you can't just hit "continue" and the holding clubs board offers a response.
Celtic wanted them to make the numbers up and taking them to America. Nothing our management could do about that.

Dossevi was a trialist so needed to look at him properly. i believe that to be good management.

as with Sheehan. Leeds wanted money, we didn't want to pay, they release him, we sign him.

who cares how long it took. we got our men in the end.

Never that simple and, in the case of Ferry and Caddis, surely it was because Lennon had just been given the job so wanted to see how they performed over the pre-season before making decisions on them?

So what do we conclude from this? Wilson and Fitton are pair of fucking dumb dumbs?

The Celtic duo hardly played out in America - so I suspect our interest was known at the time, hell Fitton was even out there in the same place for the opening game. Celtics American tour finished on 18/07 - we signed them 2 weeks later.

I havent used Dossevi as an example because he was a trailist.

FM2010 isnt real? really? are you fucking kidding me? shit? really - I never knew that.

Yes, because thats exactly what I said, word for word perfect.

But, they dont do every single little thing spot on, 100% right, perfect every single time, do they now? Who does?

you being patronising actually makes me laugh. cos you just can't do it.

as for not mentioning Dossevi i must have miss read your post

In Daves defence Magic as i said before Dave is just saying what Wilson and fitton have said isn't he? They as soon as 1 week after the play offs said

They want the targets in early
They will replace who has left
We need 8 new players
We want a better start than last year

None of that has happened. I am not concerned too much as i think we can turn it around but for me it's the same old story of please just shut your mouths and do the business.Wilson and Fitton put themselves under pressure with some of the things they make public.We all know for example that Fitton wants a good cup run and obviously good league position. So if we lose to torquay we are out of both cups early and thats when some fans will start using their own words to have a pop.

i understand that Don but it's not the boards fault if the targets they want they have to wait for.

regardless how quickly we want to do business others aren't in as much rush.

just pisses me off when people go on moaning about our board when what they have done for this club is nothing short of a miracle compared to where we were before.

some people now want instant success but it doesn't happen over night regardless of what people say pre season.
Yes it's a shame we're not top of the leage with 5 wins out of 5 but we are only 7 points away with 41 games to go.

why panic

DRS I prefer it that Fitton is honest and upfront in his interviews. Too many interviews have people acting like politicians and giving answers that don't actually tell you much and that is really boring.

Yes, you did.

I used Dossevi as an example of a player arriving late. Although I clearly wasnt referring to him when I said we should have done the deals alot sooner, as Dossevi was a free agent there was no deal to be done. Just a trial and getting him signed.

As a free agent he could have literally been anywhere before we got him in on trail. Ferry and Caddis were sat on Celtics bench, with the players and the club fully aware of our interest in them.

Fuck me, you lot are going to go loopy with what I say next, however - how long did it take a certain League One club who may or may not play in blue and white stripes to sign a player they identified as their top target who may or may not have at one point in the time line that is life been apart of another L1 squad that may or may not have played in red (...or white)

Just the first example that comes to mind.


Ah, this old chestnut - yes they saved the club and we are all aware of that and enterally grateful but that doesnt mean everything they do is right and we have to support and be happy with everything they do.

I bet you had a good old moan at some point when Malpas was in charge! every fucker did!

Fwiw Spy so do i but what i am saying is people can't expect all fans to understand that. Being honest and upfront is all good but if what you say doesn't come off then people will ask questions and rightly so in my opinion.

As recently as last week Wilson said he wanted 4 new players in the next couple of days a striker,winger,and 2 centre halfs. We ended up with our 4th left back so i can see why some people don't understand why that happened after what he said the week before.

Did anyone really expect 4 to come in though?

we all know chairmen,managers and players say what they have to at the time.
they're just lucky their aint got pinnochios problem.

10 games in is long enough to tell us where we are.

No. But my point is just don't fucking say it. They surely know what our fans can be like by now so stop making a rod for their own backs.

Very true. In my opinion the most worrying aspect was - we're at the end of August and Wilson still say he needs 4 players!!

Couldn't agree more.

Yes we are all disappointed with the start we've had and undoubtedly Paynter, Greer and Ward have proved hard to replace but to criticize Fitton for failing to achieve some lofty targets set in the heat of the moment after the playoff final is unfair.

As for the lack of signings I really think the squad we have should be good enough to compete with most sides in this division. Yes there are areas that need strengthening but for me the more pressing problems are that Wilson still doesn't know his best team - Who best to partner Austin up top, how to accommodate a combination of Douglas/Prutton/Ferry etc - and the fact that teams seem to be better at countering our style of play.

We were something of a surprise package last season but now teams know what we're about you're seeing people crowd the centre of the park more and hence why Douglas has struggled to put his mark on games and we've had to resort to slightly more direct football to an extent (obviously conceding early and having to chase games doesn't help in that regard)

Both of those concerns are why we have a manager and as long as Wilson is as good as we hope - and I am yet to see evidence to the contrary - I have no doubt will be sorted before long.

Only recently sobered up enough to read through and saw this. Yes it was us, did we manage to hang it the right way up?

No idea, though i highly doubt it!

I guess on the plus side we did remember to collect it after the game, I was impressed when I found it sunday morning!

Think I might be a tad hungover Sunday morning

I've promised to come back sober. As I'm on the train I might have told a bit of a fib.

Very prominent at the start of the game at the back of the terrace at the start of the game but less so towards the end. Northern wind?

Big London Reds flag...........saw that on the highlights.