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Goalkeepers contracted for 2010/11

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David Lucas
Phil Smith
Jakub Jesionkowski
Mark Scott

Defenders contracted for 2010/11

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Gordon Greer
Scott Cuthbert
Kevin Amankwaah
Lescinel Jean-Francois
Sean Morrison
Callum Kennedy
Nathan Thompson
Will Evans
Michael Rose

Midfielders contracted for 2010/11

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Jonathan Douglas
Jon-Paul McGovern
Alan O'Brien
Michael Timlin
David Prutton

Forwards contracted for 2010/11

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Charlie Austin
Vincent Pericard
Billy Bodin

I thought Morrison and Kennedy had signed?

Probably, I recall something from a couple of months ago. I did a very quick google I could only find an article saying they were extended until Summer 2010. I'll look again.

Easton might get another year but i don't think Timlin deserves another contract he's not good enough.

Jake Hyde's been at Barnet for a couple of seasons now.

And that post has been there for at least one of them.

paynter and morrison IMO are must keeps,

I'd give kennedy and thompson another year

FFS!  I didn't notice that this thread had been going since the dawn of time ::)

it will all boil down to which league we find ourselves in.
perfect debate for the 30th may

Irrelevant of league Morrison will go, as will most of the lads out of contract. Easton may get offered a one year deal if we stay down but might look else where. BP and LJF and the only ones we really need to sign up

Yeah they have

Pretty sure JFL is signed up for next year.

Don't think he is.

But you'd know better than I would.

Just a rumour I heard.

Jfl has either 6 or 12 months left, can't remember which, but he isn't out of contract in June. Morrison signed another year when he came back from Southend also so has a year left.

I split the post. :) New season new thread. I can't be the only one who dislikes finding the latest post by scanning through. :)

:hitler:

It's Will Evans that has a pro contract, not Dan. I think Dan is only a first year scholar, so won't be going pro until next year.

Plus, Dan Evans is the spitting image of Arshavin

Lescinel: Unless he's signed a new deal without going to press - He's out of contract (??) as he only signed a years deal last Summer. Unless anyone could find a link stating otherwise.

Morrison & Kennedy: Still couldn't find anything online on these two either in regards of a more recent deal.

Morrison signed a new 1 year deal I seem to recall when he returned from Southend putting to bed speculation that we may sell him

That rings a bell

Sunday Mirror says we're close to agreeing a tie-in with Man City that will see us getting some of their academy players on loan.

about 3 or 4  weeks late!

Next week they'll be reporting we've made the playoffs.

We have? ???

Any idea who we are we playing?

I've heard we're playing Charlton which means Millwall are playing Huddersfield. This is really great news because if we get to the Final it means whoever wins out of those two, we'll be wearing red.................. :eekout:

That's not Billy Bodin, that's Nicky Barmby.

I imagine players will learn their fate in the coming days...

What do we all think is going to happen now?

Paynter will go, I'm pretty certain of that, Ferry will sign permanently.

Ward, Nouble & Darby go back to their clubs, Sheehan wants a Championship team so we might not be able to sign him now but who knows?

Losing any of Austin, Douglas, Cuthbert or McGovern would be a disaster but Austin & McGovern have recently signed new contract's and Douglas said he was more than happy here and wants to stay so hopefully he will as he's the one who does all the hard work in midfield so it's essential that he stays.

As for others, I think Macklin, Timlin & Easton will be released.

Well hopefully danny keeps the squad together.

Players to keep realistically : Austin, McGovern, Cuthbert,Greer, Lucas, Smith,Douglas, Péricard, Morrison,Kennedy, Amankwaah, O'Brien,Bodin, Evans  and Hopefully Ferry and Ward

Players to release - Easton, Timlin, Macklin, Marshall, Jesionkowski, Jean-François


Players who might leave to other clubs - Sheehan , Paynter

I would like danny to bring in better central midfielders as back up to douglas & ferry or pushing them for starting roles and a better defender to replace Jean-François. a back up to mcGrovern , possible adomah from barnet, who knows?

but over all the squad is the strongest with had at swindon for years -  as long as we don't lose key players. austin, cuthbert.etc....

Those who havent already been offered contracts will go

No one is sure if LJF has been offered anything.

Paynter will go.

Sheehan wont have any offers from the Championship so will probably end up here.

Ferry will sign

None of our players under contract will be sold. Those with 1 year left to run (Douglas? Cuthbert? Greer?) should be offered new deals asap.

Yes please, he has rejected a new deal there and the one thing our side needs is pace.

I would like to see Ward come back on loan, but unfortunatley i think that if he isn't challenging for Bolotn's squad then he will end upon loan in the Championship.

I agree with Douglas, Cuthbert & Greer being offered new deals asap as Cuthbert is going to be some player and we don't want to lose risking losing him for nothing in a years time and Douglas is the main man who keeps things together in midfield he must stay.

I dont give a fuck if Paynter goes to be honest
I would have liked to see Easton on for Ferry today to be honest.

I agree with pretty much all of this.

Me too. Though I'm not sure about Sheehan, he thinks he's Championship material whilst some of his recent performances have been League Two material. I could see Wilson looking for a better left back and keep Kennedy and LJF as cover.

Paynter will go to a Championship team, though most likely one with limited funds or in the bottom half.

I'm having real problems convincing myself that there is a chance Ward will be back next season. He'll be in the Bolton 1st team squad next season, our best bet is if it doesn't work out and they offload him in January - but I really can't see that happening as he is just too good.

Paynter can go-I wont miss him,we've lost far better players than him before.

Agreed. Misses far more than he scores.

Paynter was getting dogs abuse from behind me today, and to be honest I thought it was massively undeserved. He was getting moaned at for not winning headers - when he was doing his job and challenging and making them concede possession and give away throws. No one noticed his other build up play, he's just been made a bit of a scape-goat by fans and takes the stick even when others perhaps deserve it.

No one would ever moan at Austin, granted I know the shit pitch ruined that chance, but I wonder what the reaction would have been had it been Paynter....probably something along the lines of;

 "PAYNTER YOU USELESS PRICK YOU'RE FUCKING SHIT, FUCK OFF. WILSON GET HIM OFF"

Or words to that affect, certainly from the numnuts behind me anyway.

Agree with the fact we've seen bigger players leave, jst dont think the stick is always warranted.

Paynter didn't look fit enough.

Agree.  If the last 2 games had been in the middle of the league season, he wouldn't have been playing.

Paynter looked like a man who left 2 weeks ago.

paynter hardly chased anything down.

whether that is lack of fitness or he's made his decision on his future, i daren't consider

I have this inkling that Jean-Luc Peri-Peri is going to step up to the plate next season...

What the fuck does that mean?

I think that with cuthburt, greer and JFL all being ahead, that it might be better for his development if Morrison finds a new club.

JFL cult hero or not, is average and can be released.

All my mates watching on tv, all fans from other clubs said unlucky ra ra ra by the way that bloke you've got from Haiti is dogshit

JFL, like him or not, is still above morrison in Wilson's centre back pickings.

Pericard is going to come good and will be a decent replacement for Paynter.

You mean fuck.

he needs to fucking up his game about a hundred times over then.

<shrug>

Perhaps he will with Paynter out of the way.

I would agree, Many wouldn't he isn't good enough, Yes he can have some good games but he has more bad games than good, He shits himself when the ball goes near him and thought he was one of the worst players out there today.

I think if we want to progress and go for automatic next season he needs to go and someone better needs to come in.

Pericard has done very little since he signed, Fair enough he hasn't played for long periods but he hasn't shown much apart from doing alright against Gillingham and causing problems in the play-off semi final at home to Charlton.

When Paynter goes i think Wilson will play Paynter's replacement and Austin upfront with Pericard being 3rd choice, Even then we would still need another striker, Just hope that Nouble doesn't come back as he is utter wank and worse than Pericard.

Pericard is going to have to work his ass off in pre-season and show that he can perform because if he doesn't do it this season he's finished here.

He pinged out a few decent balls to JPM today. I'd keep JFL as a back up player - theres' something there thatts worth another year of coaching.

I'd rather he went but if he stayed i'd hope it would be as a back up centre back, He's not comfortable at all at left back and it's not his natural position.

no shit, surely Wilson has to take some blame for playing him there?

Yes he does, Wilson doesn't do much wrong but he's not a left back, I just think he's too much of a liability and should go, When he's bad he's absolutely shocking and today he was cack! He was also utter wank away at Charlton and gave the ball away everytime he had it.

He's average at best and might be ok for a lower league one/top league two side i just think if we want to really go for it next season and try and aim for automatic which we should do then he's not quite up to it.

He was awesome at centre back at Charlton.

There were much worse players than him today.

JFL showed moments of brilliance but followed them up with many more moments of sheer uselessness. do we have room for a player that inconsistent? cuthbert and greer are a fair partnership and cuthbert can only improve with age. not sure that morrison will ever quite cut it, so i wouldn't be surprised to see a centre-back arrive in the summer.

amankwaah is a decent player but we all know his flaws. today was a woeful performance from him but i think everyone knew that if millwall got on his back, his confidence would vanish and that's precisely what happened.

i'm not too bothered about sheehan and wouldn't be disappointed if he didn't sign for us.

ferry will grow as a player and i hope we sign him on a permanent deal and focuses on going forward more; he seems quite comfortable on the ball and can strike a shot well but seems reluctant to do so. alongside douglas he's been key for us this season but didn't perform today - pressure got to him perhaps?

we need someone who is a left winger. o'brien offers nothing but pace. i don't see ward coming back to a league one side next season.

austin won't be going anywhere and he'll be even better next year after a professional pre-season. whilst logic suggests losing your top scorer would be disappointing, i wouldn't be that concerned at losing paynter. at least not the same concern i felt when parkin, fallon, cox et al left. there are goals elsewhere in our team for once. someone with pace up front would fit the bill.

i'm waffling, sorry.

You could say exactly the same about Greer, he's cost us a good few goals this season.

I didn't see LJF do anything that bad today, compared to Amankwaah who was completely useless in the 1st half and lost his man on the corner who scored the goal. He was better in the 2nd half but didn't even get close to making up for his 1st half shambles.

LJF has only being playing at this level for a year and needs to be given some time to get some experience.

Summed up perfectly, I don't think there's room here for Lescinel he is way too inconsistent.

I too am not bothered if we sign Sheehan or not as i think we could get someone just as good if not better.

Amankwaah has been good this season, He's a little suspect at defending but excellent going forward but he needs competition for that right back slot.

I was going to say something about O'Brien earlier, He's a sicknote that's Barry Corr Mk 2 who is nothing more than an athlete who can run and run but his passing and crossing is woeful and we definitely need a good left winger.

If Paynter doesn't want to be here fine, As long as we keep Austin that is the most important thing, I'm sure we could find a suitable replacement for Paynter.

LFJ did do a lot wrong.  Sorry but if you've just watched the highlights you would have noticed he was severely out of position an awful lot of the game and also made some dreadful attempts at clearances.  Maybe my position in the gods gave me a good view of it, but when there was sloppy defending it was LFJ at the root of it.

I agree he needs to be given a chance, he has potential,  but he was poor today

let O'Brien get fit and play more than 5 games before you judge him ffs.

Its annoying to have a injury prone player on the wage budget granted, but to fully judge his future on the little we've seen so far is wrong.

O'Brien was looking half decent in pre-season and again before he got injured the second time. I would love to keep Ward there but I just can't see it happening. We've been spoilt with Ward and I think he will go on to have a decent career in the premier league.

Lescinel is worth keeping as a squad player. He is still young and if the errors can be removed from his game he can play a part.

I couldn't care less if Sheehan stays or goes, don't think he's been that great since his injury and he obviously rates himself much higher than I rate him. Probably better LB's out there.

Pericard needs a pre-season and to start a few games. Surely he has to have more about him than we've seen so far? I'd also like to see us sign a striker with serious pace.

Really hope Ferry stays permanently. Please, please please.

 

Was it not Paynter's man that prodded home?

each to their own...but no there wasn't

No it was Amankwaah

What highlights did you watch? I just watched them and didn't see LJF do much wrong, he put in a lot of important challenges and blocks and was seldom out of position - when he was it was to cover other players. Maybe you're just making the same mistake as the commentators and the Millwall fans and getting him confused with Amankwaah.

Whilst he is a few years older, this was LJF's first full season at this level so he should be cut the same slack as an 18 year old on his first pro contract would be. Plus I very much doubt many other players would have done so well given the same personal circumstances LJF has had this season.

ljf was shit.not the only one mind.

I think we will do better next year
Cuthbert and Douglas will stay, ferry said in Adver he'd sign permanently whether in League 1 or Champ
Id like to see us sign Dickson the LB from Brentford , now Man City is our parent club, i would like to and can see them loaning us Donal McDermott a LW who had a cracking season last year with Chesterfield and Scunthorpe
Paynter is possible to replace as if u take away all his penalties, he scored around 19 in the league, we can also use Charlie as our target man next year as he is fuly capable of winning in the air, just need someone with good dribbling and a good pass to get the ball to Charlie so he can poach it in
And finally... Sign Liam Trotter ! he gets promoted everywhere he goes in League One :p

I think it would be unfair to pick out any player for playing badly yesterday. They were all pretty shit. But they've all been pretty damn good all season. Let's hope we can build on that for next season

we need to better the central midifield area.for me that is the only shortfall in our side.not quite good enough to get us promoted.

I think it is. Dougie has been immense this season. Class above this league really. If we can sign Ferry we'll have a very strong CM. Might be good to get a decent back up as well although Easton is a pretty decent back up.

Based purely on his performance at the County Ground this season, I'd love to see Ryan Harley of Exeter lining up alongside Dougie next season. Don't get me wrong, I'm a big Ferry fan, but he doesn't, as of yet, offer us enough going forward.

The big problem with the midfield this season was strength, when we were up against a physical team Ferry just couldn't cope and it cost us. So I'd put a midfield "enforcer" high on the list who can do a job when we need it, maybe someone nearing the end of their career with a reputation - they wouldn't have to play many games and maybe not even the full 90 minutes. Though if we do sign Ferry permanently its something they could work on with him.

both good players,but i dont think a promotion team can accomodate 2 centre mids who can't score goals.ferry at times gets bullied in there too.i'd sign him but not as first choice centre mid.

What's Lee Collins doing these days?

Fair point. We do lack goals from midfield. Only Ward has chipped in with a decent tally this season from the left. If the strikers are scoring goals though (which they have been this season) then why worry?

because on the days your forwards get shackled,you need goals from elsewhere.i think that was the difference between us getting promoted,or not as it turned out.

I think the difference between us getting promoted or not were the late goals conceded for a large part of the season.

Then again, if a few more players had chipped in with a some goals, those late goals conceded would not have mattered as we would have been two or three up.

The difference was Exeter and Walsall at home...we were favourites then and couldnt handle the pressure of those two matches,in my opinion they were matches we would have won before we got to the 2nd place position.

we've tried it before and it's not always worked.

paul smith, lilian nalis etc.

True. But more so this:


And probably a major factor in yesterday's display, along with Millwall being very physical.

There was - Kevin Amankwaah and David Lucas for a start.

Not forgetting the fantastic on a 3 year deal Gareth Whalley.

I dont see the problem with Ferry, he's been pretty much top class in his first full season of professional football ever after alot of injuries.

I hope we sign him and I have no problem with him and Douglas being our two first choice midfielders next season.

This is only my humble opinion, but I think we should only get rid of LJF when we have someone better to replace him with.

Against Charlton in the 2nd leg, and at Wembley he was woeful, but looking across our team a lot of the disappointing performances were down to lack of experience in the big games...I think it's fair to say that Charlie, Ward, Ferry and LJF all had below-par games and these are the least experienced players in the squad.

If we're to challenge next season, I think we need to ensure we have the right amount of experience to deal with these high pressure games.

I'm not saying that we shouldn't sign Ferry...On his day he's quality, but we need alternatives with equal quality and experience to deal with the big occasion.

Lastly, if we can keep O Brien fit, I think he'll be quality, but it's a massive "if". We need a decent back-up/alternative should he struggle for fitness again next season.

I wouldn't mind seeing JPM in centre mid and getting in a couple of Right midfielders - as I think JPM and Dougie could work together in the centre.

There were a number of games this season where Ferry went missing, the games that were more physical with the opposition trying to stop us playing our game. Maybe he'll get better next season, I think he will, but I still think having someone to come in for certain games and bang a few heads would be a good addition to the squad.

If Millwall don't want Trotter I'd take him off their hands - just the kind of player we need. I thuoght he was their MOM yesterday. I'd imagine he might be a wanted man thuogh.

In all honesty we struggled in the games against the more physical sides who wouldn't allow us to play football and didn't seem to have a plan b for these occasions.  I don't think we learnt anything from the last game of the season at Millwall as to how to play against them, which was disappointing.  We definitely need a couple of stronger players who will help in these games, otherwise the same will happen next season.

Also, agree that we have been too reliant on the strikers for goals.  When they've had off days, we've struggled to pick up points.  If we think back to the 90's, we had regular goals being scored by the likes of Bodin, McLaughlin, Taylor to name a few.  We haven't had that this season, other than Ward, who isn't going to be here next season?

And don't even get me started on the points dropped from last minute equalisers - 10 in total.  That's what cost us promotion in my opinon.

Listen guys we were only a few points off automatic promotion not alot needs dealing with.Not making excuses here the one thing i am concerned about is the end of season performances from a few players have recently agreed new contracts.

We got a real dilema next season with Jpm as he has been top notch until recently but his lack of pace really leaves us lacking on that side at times.

Him in the centre with Douglas and a pacey winger could be whats needed.

Seeing us muscled off the ball yesterday makes me hope Pericard is our man. It's just a hope.

i agree that there aint alot wrong with the team.still needs a bit of improvement as yesterday showed though.

I don't think there's much wrong with the team, the fact we finished only 3 points off automatic promotion and made the play-off final is testament to that.

Where we fell down is that we lacked a bit of strength when coming up against the physical sides like Millwall.

We know we are going to have to replace a couple of players though, not too concerned about Paynter as hopefully a fully fit Pericard will do as good a job, as long as we keep Austin we will still have goals in the team.

Ward will be a big miss, I'm not convinced that O'Brien is the man to replace him, he may have pace to burn but that's about it from what i've seen. Like Pericard though he needs to get himself full fit and match sharp before making a final assessment.

Darby & Sheehan have done decent jobs at full back and I would be happy to see them both back, but equally wont lose any sleep if they dont.

Finally I think LJF should stay, he definitely has potential at centre back but we need a bit more cover there, he's played a few too many games this season, especially some of the bigger ones where he's been found out a bit, but I think there is a decent player there with the right development.

Echo LJF. Good player, nice bloke.

I believe we should pull out all the stops to sign diagouraga off of Brentford. Good footballing player and built like a shit-house. Always been impressed with him.

Though I do believe it should be pointed out this squad doesn't need a massive reform in the style of play/players we have, and nor do I think Wilson will look to change it too drastically.

Absolutely-and has done for the last 2 weeks!

Ferry is a high quality box to box player for me - demonstrated recently with the crucial goal making run and lay off to Ward for the second in the home leg v Charlton.

Don't see it in his nature (or physique) to become any enforcer but I would like to see someone work with him on scoring goals as his runs have made chances for himself as well as others and he hasn't converted.

i retract what i said about LJF last night.

Ferry is quality we should sign him.
Sheehan can sign if the wages are right.
LJF is worth another season, as he should be cheap.
Ward would be immense, but we all know it ain't happening.

Other than that, I'll leave to Wilson and the board to bring in the players they think best...they've done pretty well so far.

Pace is what we lack in this team.

I agree that we lack pace. Thats why he have shocked teams a little bit when we have played o'brien on the left and ward up front. I like simon ferry and think that he should be signed at all costs but i also think we need a bigger a goal threat from midfield so im stuck in two minds a bit there. As for an enforcer we had one in kanyuka , but then he fucked of the like the cunt he is and made the worst mistake of his career.

diagouraga isnt a bad shout. He looked pretty handy against us earlier in the season. But i should imagine he will play a part at peterborough next year. Ideally this summer i would be looking to sign 2 fullbacks , 1 left midfeilder , 1 center midfeilder and another striker.

Kanyuka was crap.

Would have barely got a game this season.

Lets remember that we we can get around 5 players from Liverpool, Man City and Celtic - already confirmed by Fitton that they've got some lined up for whichever league we were going to be in.  On top of the main basis of this years team we are looking at a potential gap a left back to fill and a forward assuming Paynter goes.  I think we are in for a good season next time around, much more confidence than a year ago.  Add in a few quid from the end of season we've had, a bit of extra cash for teams next year and the boost on season ticket sales.

I think that the point is that we need an option like that on the bench. Sign Ferry by all means, but when we are struggling in a game like the Millwall one, bring on a different type of player to him. We don't have that option at the moment with Timlin and Easton.

In regards to pace the one thing i don't understand is what went so wrong with Marshall? Most would agree that we don't have a plan b but when he played he did make a difference and teams had to double up on both flanks. He didn't do anything wrong did he but just disregarded for some reason

Macklin also has pace to burn.

I think its clear in Marshall, Macklin, Timlin and Easton that Wilson had players he didnt want to use. I think he used Marshall as a last resort.

Although he had 3 or 4 really good games, even the most stubborn person would have had their mind changed some what i would have thought.

Last season when wilson moved him into center midfield he was pretty good I thought. Having said that though i would have only used him as a plan B this season.

i have a nasty feeling somebody might try to take cuthbert off us during the summer.he could step up a division for sure

Scotty was linked with preston in jan wasnt he ?

there was a rumour doing the rounds about it

I wouldn't have used him has plan F.

And yes Cuthbert was linked. Unfortunately.

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Preston-manager-Darren-Ferguson-is-lining-up-a-500-000-bid-for-Swindon-s-former-Celtic-defender-Scott-Cuthbert-article304323.html

Think we need to sign Sheehan and possibly Ferry at the right price.  Get Ward again (unlikely).

BP can be replaced.  Tadhg Purcell from Darlington (someone may have mentioned this before?)

Need some more height in midfield, Ferry and Dougie are quite short really.

Thanks for backing me up batch ;) Somebody call me a cunt and verify that I talk complete and utter bollox. 

cunt

JB_Swindon talks bollocks.

I thnk thats the first time i've been called a cunt on here  :D

How the hell do you pronounce that?? (The Tadhg bit I mean of course)

If BP does go (I'll be amazed if he doesn't) could Le Fondre be a realistic target?

Wilson's 'system' seems to favour two fairly defensively minded centre-mids with wingers who get forward. Rather than relying solely on the front two or expecting one of the centre-mids to chip in, I think we seriously need a winger (or two) who's capable of 10 or so goals a season.

Exactly how its spelt.

I'd hope so.

I like Le Fondre, and I'd hope he see us as a step up from Rotherham.

We're undoubtably a step up but is he looking for two steps up??

Maybe if we go on and on and on about signing Le Fondre, it will spread on to other forums and it will eventually happen...it worked with Ricky Lambert.....oh.....wait...

Aaaaah...right...just like Apu Nahasapeemapetilon 8)

as in "tiger" without "er", apparently.

what about brett pitman? will probably get offers from elsewhere though

Get Ferry and Sheehan. Up front Perciard can provide the physical presence BP gives us, we need pace up there. Febian Brandy has been released from United and always looks good against us, Simeon Jackson maybe but probably too expensive? we'd need another striker on loan as well aswell to give us four. Spunk some money on a decent Left winger. we would then need cover for RB, RM (Green from Dagenham?) and CB/LB (Matt Taylor at Exeter?)

Smith
Lucas

KA
?
Greer
Cuthbert
LJF
?
Sheehan
Kennedy

JPM
?
Dougie
Ferry
Timlin
Easton
O'brien
?

Pericard
Austin
?
?

James mcevely has been released by derby too . Or is that total bollox coming from a complete and utter cunt again ?  :)

I dont think Pericard is capable of getting enough goals to replace Paynter.

hes called jay you  :cunt:

everyone is talking as if paynter going is a done deal.do you lot know something i dont?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_McEveley  :cunt:  :D

i was  :fishing: JB before you rant

arriba i think his attitude recently says a lot

I think it's fairly obvious he's going and he'll end up somewhere like Leeds, Barnsley etc.

Ah ok SN5 . I think its pretty safe to say i wont be called a cunt if I say that paynter is off !

No, as I keep saying, I just think it's going to happen. He was stalling on signing a new contract because he presumably wanted to see how the season unfolded (quite reasonably) It has now unfolded and we're obviously going to be in L1 next season. I'm just guessing that a Championship side comes in for him. If so, he will go. I'll be very surprised if that does not happen.

i think paynter's level is where he is though.
i dont see him as championship quality

Well he'd have to test himself if the opportunity came up. What with being on a free and all could be a nice little earner with the signing on fee.

I have some doubts he's do it in the Championship. But you never know

Edit: Arriba beat me to it!

I think he would do ok in the Championship. Nothing spectacular, just ok.

Any way, it's about whether Paynter thinks he's Championship level and whether his agent can convince a club that he is.

If Rory Fallon can do a decent job in the Championship, then so can Paynter.

Actually that's not a bad point.

Sorry, lost the computer the missus for a while.  It's like a pool table in a pub. Not literally tho.

Should we not try and get Big Rory back -- might be difficult after he gets the Golden Boot at the world cup

Has fallon done a job? If i am not mistaken he got more yellow cards than goals this season

Yeah 6 bookings 5 goals.

Still that overhead kick against City was class.  Even if it was a fluke.

He's played 121 Championship games in the last 3 and a half season, so he must be doing something right.

Even if its not being a prolific goal scorer.

Dave they have been battling relegation and hardly have the pulling power to get anyone better. I know you like him and i wouldn't actually mind him here just think he is not a championship player like some would want us to think he is.

I have no feelings either way towards Fallon but 4 seasons in the Championship, indicate to me he's a Championship player.

Plymouth havent always been relegation battlers either, they finished 10th a few seasons back.

Weirdly the season he played the least games for them (13) is the best season they have had.

Rory Fallon, for me, is without doubt a League One player. He did okay, certainly tried hard but couldn't finish his chances. As soon as Sturrock and Mariner arrived that was it
for him really.

Oh and Fallon has 18 goals in 121 Championship matches for Plymouth. That's not good enough. Mind you, I'm not a big fan of "the big man up front", I like forwards to score goals.

Maybe this could be the answer to all of our problems???

http://fourfourtwo.com/news/england/53698/default.aspx

Rory Fallon for the last 4 seasons has played in the Championship, that makes him a Championship player.

What has happened with Nathan Thompson? A year ago there were (allegedly) Premier League teams looking at him but now he seems to be on his way out? He made the bench a few times this season but Wilson didn't seem keen on playing him but surely he'd be worth a new contract unless he has really gone down hill?

It's all gone quiet with Alex Henshall as well. There has to be a possibility he'll stay with us as he should be breaking in to the 1st team next season, though maybe a more likely option is he goes to a Premier League team for a decent fee and he is loaned straight back to us for a season or two. Weren't Man city rumoured to be interested in him?

I think there is a reason its all gone quiet about Henshall and we've suddenly got links with Man City....

Okay, well now he's in League One so that makes him a League One player ;)

He's better standard as that Ryan Giggs though because he's got World Cup credentials!

i was surprised he got a pro contract in the first place.not good enough and will be released as long as i've got a hole in my arse

fallon is a league 1 player.a scorer of great goals,not a great goal scorer.

as for any of our players who think they are better than us.they can fuck off, as they rarely go onto better things.
only cuthbert is good enough to step up.

Cuthbert (along with Austin) is the only one I'd be genuinely gutted to lose. I think they'll be the ones that generate most interest.. Not worried about Charlie leaving, I don't see it happening at all. But Scotty on the otherhand... I am a little...

All our players are shit, get rid of them all.

RODNEY YOU PLONKER...

Lucas, cuthbert greer, douglas mcgovern, austin we have the spine of a really good team in this league

The BIG MAN up front got us 29 this season....we should be bustin a gut to keep Paynter and Austin together.

Leefer, I was referring to players like Emile Heskey who are forwards who don't score many goals.

Fair enough Rich,Pericard maybe.

If you compare Paynters and Pericards goal ratio before they came to Swindon they are pretty much identical.

I'm sure that if (when) Paynter does go, Pericard will be 1st choice striker along with Austin next season - unless hell freezes over and we get Ward for another season.

Can't see that happening, Whoever we buy to replace Paynter will partner Austin next season IMO, We would also need to bring in another striker so we have 4 strikers.

Celtic apparently interested in Jimmy Bullard, Joe Ledley and Liam Lawrence. Looks good for us RE Ferry

fallon is a championship player but league one quality at best

http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10341~2062734,00.html

Kurt Hammons + Mark Marshall relesead. 
Mark Scott, Craig Easton & Michael Timlin offered new deals so far.

Opinions?  :hmmm:

I was a little unsure about Easton + Timlin getting new deals  :doh: (Scott is clearly seen as a prospect), but maybe Danny is trying to "bulk up" the squad size? And rotate a little more, earlier in the season against some of the teams whose form isn't doing so well while resting others?

I didnt realise Nathan Thompson was signed up for next season?

Same with LJF - he was definitely only offered a year last year, so has signed at some point. Didnt make that one public did they?

Updated with today's announcement and added the extra pictures.

Goalkeepers contracted for 2010/11

[url width=100 height=100]http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicLUCASDAV.jpg[/url] [url width=100 height=100]http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicSMITHPHI.jpg[/url] [url width=100 height=100]http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicJESIONKJ.jpg[/url]

David Lucas
Phil Smith
Jakub Jesionkowski

Defenders contracted for 2010/11

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Gordon Greer
Scott Cuthbert
Kevin Amankwaah
Sean Morrison
Will Evans
Callum Kennedy
Lescinel Jean-Francois
Nathan Thompson

Midfielders contracted for 2010/11

[url width=100 height=100]http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicDOUGLASJ.jpg[/url] [url width=100 height=100]http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicMCGOVERJ.jpg[/url] [url width=100 height=100]http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicOBRIENAL.jpg[/url]

Jonathan Douglas
Jon-Paul McGovern
Alan O'Brien

Forwards contracted for 2010/11

[url width=100 height=100]http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/images/Pics/People/PicAUSTINCH.jpg[/url] [url width=106 height=112]http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/th_VincentPericard.jpg[/url] [url width=114 height=121]http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/th_BillyBodin.jpg[/url]

Charlie Austin
Vincent Pericard
Billy Bodin

Out-of-Contract: Summer 2010

Billy Paynter
Lloyd Macklin
Alex Henshall

Offered New Contract

Michael Timlin
Craig Easton
Mark Scott

Released

Kurt Hammonds
Mark Marshall

Too many threads!

I'd be suprised to see Timlin AND Easton here next season. Both can do a good job (especially Easton) but neither are going to play regularily. If they get offers of first team footy why would they stay?!

Not seen Hammonds play much so can't comment. Shame Marshall didn't work out as he had a few good games. But we need better quality/consistency IMHO.

that picture of Pericard is ace

this.

 :D

fB used to have curtains like that....

Marshall seemed to have improved.

His contribution at Southampton was huge!

Shame. :bye:

Hope it doesnt bite us on the arse.

I have heard hes off to Boremuff, they approached him before the end of the season.

No news on a contract for Alex Henshall?? Can't believe we would not try to retain him...

Does this mean he's being handed a shiny Man City contract instead, or am I reading into things too much too soon again?  :no:

No, I think its pretty common knowledge he's on his way to Man City or Liverpool

The important thing with Henshall is that if he does go we need to agree a payment rather than relying on a tribunal. Which you'd think is pretty likely if he goes to Liverpool or Man City as we've been talking to them and building a relationship - I'm sure Henshall would have been a part of those talks. I can see him coming straight back on loan for a season or two as well.

Could be a decent seven figure payment if he really is as good as everyone says.

I think its also important to get as much upfront as possible.

Rather that minimal upfront but millions in adds on

Well if they agree a nice price up front with us and everything is civil then that'll be the best we can hope for I guess...

Might help with some "brownie points" for some loan players too?

"No news on a contract for Alex Henshall?? Can't believe we would not try to retain him...

Does this mean he's being handed a shiny Man City contract instead, or am I reading into things too much too soon again?" 

Open to being shot at here, of course but I can't help thinking Henshall would get more games for us if he did go to Man City and come back on loan than he would if he stayed here with a new contract. We do seem to be more willing to play other people's youngsters - who often don't seem to be all that good - than our own, Charlie excepted, of course.

Roger, that's a valid point. I was thinking along the same lines till something occurred to me.

If you play your own youngsters too soon, you might destroy their confidence and credibility at the club. A loan is a loan, and the player can always go back to his parent club (e.g. Tope) but when it's your own player, what do you do?

Maybe that's the logic, and you'd rather loan the player out to other clubs first to "test the water"?

Its sort of a fair point but then we dont seem to have many of the right age and stature to give a go in the 1st team. Macklin had chances last season and didnt always take them. So did Kennedy before he got injured.

I know theres an arguement of if you're good enough then you're old enough, but personally I think Henshall was still too young and weak to have been given a chance this season.

I thought Tope was shit, but at least he looked like a man rather than a boy

For the purposes of updating the original post... (I haven't trawled through the thread either) Is Macklin signed up for the new season?

His future is still up in the air, Wilson hasn't decided whether to give him a new contract or not yet.

Alex Henshall signs for man city so he won't be in the squad

Squad Update

Goalkeepers

David Lucas
Phil Smith
Jakub Jesionkowski
Mark Scott

Defenders

Gordon Greer
Scott Cuthbert
Kevin Amankwaah
Michael Rose
Lescinel Jean-Francois
Sean Morrison
Callum Kennedy
Nathan Thompson
Will Evans

Midfielders

Jonathan Douglas
Jon-Paul McGovern
Alan O'Brien
David Prutton
Michael Timlin

Forwards

Charlie Austin
Vincent Pericard
Billy Bodin

That midfield looks might thin!

Building at the back, George Graham would be delighted.

bodin can play wide left aswell i think

This seems to be coming together now.  I'd say ten of the starting XI for the first game are signed up:

Lucas

Amankwaah
Greer
Cuthbert
Rose

McGovern
Douglas
Prutton
?

Pericard
Austin.

Hopefully none of them leave unless someone offers, in the parlance, "silly money".  That looks like quite a tasty team to me.

i still think o'brien will start left midfield

I reckon the 2 Man City loanees may be guaranteed to play.

Greer suspended for first game.

And the second.

Very good point.  LJF to fill in then.  The point still stands though, that a very strong first XI is emerging for the season.

I think we need a player or two on the bench who can come on and influence the game. Last season, who did we have? Easton, Timlin, O'Brien, Nouble, Pericard?? None of these from what I can remember spurred us on to get a win from a draw and change the last 15-20mins of a game.

pericard coming on against norwich did the job

I'm hoping for more from O'Brien and Pericard this year, and I think Wilson knows that he'll have to get more from them than he did last year for us to be challenging. Maybe a decent pre-season will be what is needed to get the best out of them. I'm sure we will also see a left-sided player and a striker coming in soon enough. Whether they will be in the first team or there to provide competition remains to be seen.

we need a proper replacement for paynter.pericard isn't suddenly going to become prolific infront of goal.

Pericard last year reminds me of Paynter 2 years ago. I really feel Pericard can step up, and have been convinced he can by my Carlisle supporting mate.

He might.

i certainly hope so.his previous record is pretty awful though

True, but his previous record is most at a higher level

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSJRPesTBhU

Keep the faith

I'm not sure we need Pericard to replace all of Paynter's goals.  As long as he can get around the 15 goal mark, and a fair few assists, that'd be a great return in my opinion.  The key for me is getting more goals from the midfield.

Any ideas who's likely to be the penalty taker as that helped bump up Paynter's tally last season quite considerably?

Got to be Charlie surely! He has a pretty good penalty taking record by all accounts.

JUst read this on the BBC New striker on the way??
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/swindon_town/8796306.stm

I'm wondering if we might see some changes to the formation next season. With the current new signings and the possibility of Caddis and Ferry as well then we'll have plenty of options which we didn't have before.

Maybe a Brazil like 4-2-3-1 with Prutton and Douglas as the holding midfielders. Or maybe a 4-3-3. Or maybe something else?

We were talking about this earlier. The only problem I see is that CA isn't capable of playing on his own yet imo, but if it's decided he can then 433 would be the way to go, with JPM wide right and ball wide left

Didn't austin play up top on his own against southampton?

Yep. Although we didn't see a lot of him in that game (other than the goal) thanks to our own penalty area being under seige for 90 minutes.

Good point, maybe it's a goer then, especially away.

So wrong. He was immense that night, his best all round performance for us yet. Up top on his own could work for this season.

Didn't he miss 2 pretty good chances before the goal though?