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Colin Calderwood to be new manager.

Heard it here first. Is currently finishing one last game whilst Forest appoint new manager as per his contract and will arrive with player/coach Breckin joining in January.

Get a tenner on it

I won't believe it myself until Victor Chandler stop taking bets on it.

I 100% believe it, it's a done deal.  Oh Colin Colin, Colin, Colin, Colin, Colin Calderwood!

Thank God we've replaced that awful ex-Motherwell dour Scotsman, with our very own, errrm, dour Scotsman!!

Nah...Andy King will be his Assistant.

Yeah but he's a scotsman that our ignorant fans have heard of so its alright

Yeah, it's fine we've heard of him, he used to play for Spurs didn't he?  He's a yid legend!!

If bookies are still taking bets get your money on it now

I had a cheeky tenner a couple of weeks ago at 20/1 after some info but now its concrete.

If you find anywhere taking bets let me know

Who's your sauce?

Won't believe it until it is posted in the FACT thread!

Daddys


Seriously though - Obviously I cant reveal. But lets just say I have in's at Forest and its done.

If true, I hope to be having a "why did you let Calderwood go" postfest on the Forest fans website in 18 months time.

I would be slightly disappointed with the appointment but other than this post I'll keep it well hid.

I have in's at Oxford and they tell me Andy King and Maurice Malpas will be their new management team...

You heard it here first.

if you lose me my bet i will hunt you down and stab you

I can only relay what I have heard, what I trust and what I am backing.

If you wanna take a bet - Do it. I have done.

There's a new clause in the covenant made by the Goddard Estate (in addition to the one that says the County Ground site can only ever be used for sporting/recreational purposes) that says our manager has to be Scottish.  I can't reveal my sauce, but can confirm that it is not Victor Chandler.

Macari, Gorman, Sturrock, Malpas, Calderwood (??) - surely too many to be coincidental.  I also understand that Jimmy (Scottish name if ever I heard one) Quinn's granny had a tartan rug and was partial to a glass of Glenfiddich.

Who is going to be the new Forest manager then?

Stuart Pearce?

Nah, will be Peter Taylor.

Allardyce or Davies

They are the two in the running apparantly.

hmm

what odds would I get on a Colin Calderwood Swindon manager and an Allardyce/Davies Forest manager double I wonder?

Is there anywhere you can even place an online bet ?

seriously,cc appointment would explain fittons comments regarding having a manager the fans relate to.personally dont reckon it will be him though

An internet betting site?

Humph. :)

Let me rephrase. Is there anywhere online that you can bet on the next swindon manager.

It was Pearce last week so I'll believe this if and when I see it, although with the amount of 'insider' threads start one of them is bound to be partly right.

I wouldnt want Calderwood here as manager. There are better choice out there.

Let's think about this a minute, why would a club like Forest allow their manager to take 1 last game before he moves on to a new club ?

It don't work like that, stfc get permission to talk to CC, CC agrees to sign for stfc, stfc agree compensation with NF for their manager, CC quits Forest for STFC immediately, Forest install CC No 2 as caretaker manager while they appoint new manager.

Why would he stay at his previous club when he has a new job, they wouldn't want him if he wasn't commited.

And I do not think that CC would quit Forest at the moment, and reading his comments after their win the weekend really sums it up:

"The opportunity to manage a club like this is all you'd want, so the rough comes with the smooth on occasions and you've got to accept it."

Get your money on Calderwood to not be stfc boss.

The Forest fans forum contains a rumour that Calderwood has quit by (proper) mutual consent, but is staying on until the man is available.

I wouldn't be surprised, it's not working out there for him right now. It would also mean no compo' to Notts Forrest (sic) for anyone wishing to employ him. 


None of this means he is coming to STFC of course.

Its in the nature of Calderwood's contract.

He is on a rolling contract, Forest dont want him to leave until they have a replacement lined up. Calderwood was told before the previous game (apparantly) that he would be asked to leave and given the choice of waiting til a replacement is announced or going immediately. He chose to stay.

Swindon/CC made a decision early this week. Calderwood agreed to take charge of Forest for the coming game. Forest hope to announce new manager Sunday/Early next week.

12-1 at Victor Chandler currently.

but how do I get a bet on?  Got a link?

http://www.skysports.com/football/team/0,19734,11727,00.html

Considering where that has been posted on SS - I'd get in very quick

can someone post the content of that link on here? I cant get onto SS at work

That's from yesterdays local rag.

For Lucy

VC's website.

Thanks !

Yes but being thick I can't find it on there.

to be fair DV none of these insider threads/quotes are true. they're just rumours and nothing more. yet the minute one of them is correct they'll swear blind they were telling thr truth all along etc with comments such as "told you so"!!!

This one might have an element of truth in it :)

bloody hope not !

Another Jock ???

How many do we need before someone relaises the only successful one we ever had was Macari !  That was soooommmmeee time ago as well !!!!

Sturrock was a moderate success

OK, easier to find if you use the right site version!

http://www.vcbet.com/

Under Football specials.

Hence the post below yours by fatbury

Colin Calderwood is too boring. I want to be entertained and having fits of laughter in the after match interviews. Not listening to a dull Scot.

Andy King was entertaining...

exactly and he was a brilliant manager, one of the best

I long for his tales of gout and his favourtisim of Super Sam!

I long only for his ability to scout a player and then actually get them to sign.

They are rumours, and to be taken with a pinch of salt. But this one feels a 'right fit' with Fittons comments.

So to cut to the chase. When I lose my tenner you can laugh and point at me.

Perhaps we can approach Frankie Boyle to be his press officer?

maybe hoddle bigged up calderwood too?

One bonus if it is CC - he'd certainly sort our leaky defence out.

like he has forests.oh......

Best defense in League One last season.

Problem is he put too much trust in the defense and a couple have been found wanting.
He is a good manage rand without the pressure that the Forest job brings will do very well elsewhere

Yeah there will be no pressure here to keep us up, none at all...

Different kind of pressure to that he was under at Forest.

Our fans are probably up there with the worst in the country

They'd moan if we appointed Wenger.

i'd be reasonably happy if it was calderwood. he'd have the backing of the crowd more than malpas had.
if it goes tits up it will sour all the great memories though

Sour the great memories??  To be honest Arriba Colin did that when he didn't stay to captain us in the Premiership. I know the lure of Spurs was too great (although CC regretted joining them soon after) but I'd have loved him to have stayed, even for just half a season.

i disagree jan.he went onto better things after doing a fantastic job here.that didn't sour anything in my opinion

i wish i was a mod so i could check the IP address of this footballinsider type bloke

The VC odds went down to 7/1 and have now been closed!

Make of that what you will.

Footballinsider must own a bookies and has been spamming forums to get people to bet...?

I actually want to believe this but if its so clear cut , why has Byrne been given the green light to speak to loan players for Jan, when Calderwood will be in place this time next week ?!?!?

I know, I know, sour things, is a bit strong, I just wish he didn't go!!  Would have been good for Colin to have been the first to captain one side in all four divisions.  Instead, as you say, he had to be content with playing for Spurs, and ending up playing against Ronaldo in one of the world's biggest matches (WC opener).

 It would sound more realistic if David Kerslake was mentioned as part of the package.

 I know Forest fans would be happy to see CC go....he would probably have been sacked, without the win on Saturday....but teh stuff about doing one more game etc just doesn't ring true.

It does sound a bit odd. It's like he's caretaker manager following his own dismissal.

Could be on to something there.

It was only the other day it was a done deal on John Ward and the bookies stopped taking bets.

victor chandler slash the odds as soon as anyone puts a fiver on, methinks.

My £10 triggered their suspicious betting patterns software.

Seriously, it's probably their PR machine in overdrive ready for tomorrows Adver.

 It's obviously bullshit....a club like Forest always has a few fellas hanging around, who can step in for a spot of caretaking...when we got dicked 7-1 it was a pair of caretakers, one called Frank Barlow...can't remember t'other.  Could be the bigest ever win by a caretaker.

McPharland was the other one I think. Pretty sure he went on to manage Notts County, or still is.

 Good knowledge...no h though.  His record at Forest was won 8 drew 4 and L 1.

How desperate are VC?

Answer me this


If I worked for Victor Chandler - Why would VC stop the betting now? Wouldnt they want to keep taking your money?

Also - Why did I never post a link to Victor Chandler? Hardly the first betting site you'd go to.

Well i think it's bollocks anyway.

 Well at least he's in the right place for bollocks...try on thisis, they'll believe anything there.

http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/news/headlines/3947439.Town_s_manager_search_goes_on/

sounds like Ling or Calderwood???

i'm not sure about either of these two coming tbh

Reports from the Forest end too.

My tip is looking good and it sounds like a nice little Christmas earner coming my way

How are you a football insider?

Thought you might like to see this.

http://www.forest.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=134292

I might be going out on a limb with this one folks and setting the site up for a mighty fall, but we are led to believe that manager Colin Calderwood has resigned his position and will take up the post as manager of League 1 side Swindon Town.

News of Calderwoods' imminent departure has been doing the rounds for well over a week now, but from what we have been told, he has resigned his post as manager of Nottingham Forest.

It's believed that Swindon and Forest have come to an agreement, where he will join the Wiltshire club immediately and will not be getting any payoff from the Reds'.

As for his replacement, the deal to bring in Big Sam Allardyce as manager may not be as dead as we think it is. Talks are ongoing and he's still top of the most wanted list as far as Forest are concerned.

There's been no news from the club concerning the future of CC and they have at no stage confirmed or denied any of the rumours surrounding him. Calderwood has been at the City Ground since 2006, coming from Northampton Town, where he had just won promotion to League 1. Although he won promotion to the Championship last season with the Reds' at the second attempt, he's found the step up a difficult one.

I hope that the above is true.

I would love to have our very own Captain Fantastic back at the club and I hope he'll be successful.

I also hope he'll be given some time to get it right.

I'm probably in the minority amongst Forest fans but I'll be sad to see him go. Ok, he has found the step up to the Championship tough but given time, I'm sure he would come to terms with it. If this is true and I'm starting to believe it more and more then make no mistake, he will do a decent job in League One for your boys. His tactics can be erratic at times, his style of play may not be pretty but he will get you results over time.

Oh Colin Colin. Colin, Colin, Colin, Colin, Calderwood!!!

That's him fucked then.

We demand instant success.

my only worry is a former favourite coming back and getting it wrong and then fans jump on his back etc.

Ok he'll need time to sort things out and get things going his way but i'd hate for CC to be subjected to abuse etc.

I used to speak to CC's brother in law all the time up the pub, typical that now it'd be useful to have a chat, to get the low down, I ain't seen him for ages.

Don't feel too bad about it fella, Colin's used to abuse from fans  :soapy tit wank:

I see your point, but surely he'd be given some time? Most fans would want him to succeed, which is a definite advantage over Malpas and a lot of the potential candidates this time round.

not when he was once a town favourite and is still regarded as such in many eyes.

Calderwood is a legend.

Not a minor legend, like Super Sammy, or Luc Niholt, but a full-on Swindon Great.

If this is true, I would be very happy.

good point. Hadn't looked at it from that view. I'd love to see him succeed and like you say fans would be right behind him because of his connections to the club from when he was here.
Maybe after a bit of thinking it could be a huge lift for STFC.

Many eyes?  All eyes surely, my dour/sour note comment earlier was said tongue in cheek, I think everyone would welcome CC home!!!!

If its on vital football then it must be true!

Theres no way any of the editors of those sites just recycle news from other sites and publish rimours taht there mates tell them!

His managerial record isn't too shabby: two promotions with different clubs.

It may have taken him two seasons to get Forest to the Championship, but so what?

I would love it, LOVE IT, if he came home.

Fuck off Todd! Let me fantasise a bit longer..........

The "quit and will join us immediately" line doesn't seem to tally with what Fitton's saying in the Adver today though does it? That sounds more like we could be in for another few weeks, ongoing negotiations etc

Maybe the negotiations were finalised quicker than AF anticipated?

I know it's all bollocks.......

You need to get some better fantasies Herthab!

The Captain that led the team from the 4th Division to the top flight might be coming in as manager.

Proven at lower leagues level, having gained two promotions.

Contacts in the game.

Sounds like a decentish fantasy to me.

Negative Todd says he outspent the opposition at both clubs he got promoted and took 2 years to get Forest up despite spending more on strikers than the rest of the league spent on players in total

If Fitton can't even rely on universal approval from the fans should he appoint Colin fucking Calderwood then he really has got no chance.

I'm not saying I wont back him,  I backed malpas for fucks sake .

but I think there are better managers available. Sorry if that offends you

there's always going to be better managers available whoever we get in.
The thing with CC is he'll instanly be a hit with the fans. Happy fans = more through the gates = more money = better players = (hopefully) a push for promotion.

Now i've had a good think about it we as fans see him as a legend so will want nothing but success for him so will give him the time he needs to acheive this. Which is key to keeping the players happy and not causing unrest throughout the club.

But would he be able to shed all the deadwood
ie  Byrne, Williams and Granville

i imagine it would be a requirement of any manager to shift out and bring in his required backroom staff.

Surely CC would bring David Kerslake back?

I'm not sure that Kers will have the legs any longer to be honest. He wasn't up to much the last time he was brought back, even playing as a fairly immobile sweeper.

If Fitton forces any new appointment to keep Byrne/Williams, i'll be a bit miffed.

Its ok, everyone ignore the fact his managerial record is mediocre.

He used to be really good when he played for us so hes guaranteed to be a roaring sucess here

The TEF plumbs the depths of thisis.

As I've said if it does turn out to be him I'll give him my full backing and hope that he does the business here.  But personally I dont understand the need / want to appoint former players. Candidates like Holloway / Dowie would still galvanise the fan base.

Most northampton and forest fans dont rate him, despite their success. That seems odd

No not odd, that seems concerning.

As I said before, wouldn't be my choice over Ollie, but it's not my choice. I'd certainly not moan about it.

Indeed. And why is that?

Its because he spent a lot of money at both clubs and struggled to get promoted.  

well with Keane set to take over at Forest I can see it being Colin as manager now ... I have some reservations but as he was such a legend I reckon he will do better here than at his other teams and he did pretty well all told ... Im just looking forward to a manager I can really get behind .. Id prefer if it was without Byrne but it doesnt appear that way ... but Ill still get really behind Calderwood more than I ever could Malpas

I'd be happy with CC. FFS. Some people won't be happy with whoever we get. CC's record is pretty damn good actually.

I also look forward to singing the Colin Calderwood song :)

I hear this bounded about a lot, but I don't know any Northampton or Forest fans. Is he really disliked at both clubs, and is the spending too much money thing really a factor?

Taking too long to get "a big club" promoted, I can understand. But it seems odd to dislike a manager for using the resources available. It seems an odd criticism.

His record is good if you look at it in isolation on paper.  But is taking 2 years to get a club with a strikeforce they paid about £3m for out of league 1 really that much of an achievment?

I'm coming across as very anti CC, when I'm not.  

Its just annoying me that loads of you will just accept him without analysis because he is an all time great STFC player. THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HIS ABILITY AS A MANAGER

Most people have been justifying appointing him because of 2 promotions, not because he was a good player

Its not critising him for spending money, any manager would given the chance (apart from Wenger!)

The critisim is that he had more transfer funds than the rest of the league put together (bar leeds) and still made a bit of a struggle of it.

Does that bode well if he is our new manager where he'll get limited funds at best?  not really

Still got them promoted though didn't he? And he's never failed to finish in the top 6 with Northampton or Forest (this season aside obviously). You won't find much better out there tbh.

Saying people are just accepting him without analysis, purely because they disagree with your analysis is bit arrogant isn't it.

Round and round we go. Now look at how he managed those promotions. spending more money than everone esle.

But how does that compare to ling, whose kept leyton orient in this division on a shoestring?

Thats beacuse my analyis is correct.  I'm not being arrogant about it though but my facts are right.

With Fitton suggesting he is chasing 2 managers that are currently employed, I would imagine that CC is not nailed on, I suspect CC to be one of them, I hope the other isn't Ling.

If CC had resigned NF would have released an official statement by now confirming it.

Still think it is bollox

As a Forest fan I have to say I like Colin. He's comes across very well in interviews and despite the abuse he's suffered from fans especially over the last month or so has always remained dignified. He has done well in the transfer market with what he has brought in (except Andrew Cole! Although that deal was down to the chairman we hear) but what really lets him down is his tactics. He persists in tinkering with the team and playing players out of position. It's so frustrating at times when 20k Forest fans sat in the stands can see it yet Colin continues to jumble things about when there often is no need to. Another plus point is his willingness to take a chance of some of the youngsters from the academy.

As a league one manager he'll feel right at home and if he choses Swindon, I'm sure the majority of fans will embrace him and given time Swindon will progress.

Thats my point really.  You have to look at the context of the club people are managing.  Ling getting Orient into league 1 and keeping them up on a budget of £0 is a bigger achievment than getting forest out of league 1 after spending millions in my opinion.

Fact?

Its a fact that calderwood spent millions and ling didnt.  Its my opinion that this gives ling the upper hand achievement-wise on that basis.  Hope that clears things up.

Exactly, your opinions based on the facts aren't facts themselves. If people disagree with them it doesn't mean that they're ignoring the facts just because he's a former player.

I'll simplify it for you if you want.

Calderwood spending money at his last clubs - FACT (I presume. Haven't really followed his career)

How much this reflects on his achievements as a manger - NOT A FACT.

Disagreeing with you on the second one doesn't mean "loads of you will just accept him without analysis because he is an all time great STFC player. THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HIS ABILITY AS A MANAGER"

Do you get now why you were being a bit of a twat? It's really not that complicated.

To be fair you are both being twats

Fuck off.

Well thought out, well done

Don't you talk to DRS like that, TWAT!

Forest fans in particular from what I've read are also less than impressed by the nature of the football played by Calderwoods side. It's not exactly like watching Brazil by all accounts.

Like all of us I guess they'd be prepared to put up with a more prosaic playing style if it was an unqualified success. However a lot of them can remember better times and dull direct football that just about scrapes you out of League One and isn't coping in the Championship isn't something that they're too happy with.

Maybe I'm not being as analytical with regard to Calderwood as I would be towards other candidates.

Maybe I have rose tinted specs on because he's inexorably linked (To me anyway) with the best times the club has ever had.

Does that make me a twat? Who gives a fuck. I'm not the most logical, or reasoned when it comes to STFC.

I get the impression that Calderwood is to Forest fans as Malpas was to Swindon fans. There's some sort of bitterly ironic lesson to be drawn out of that probably but I'm buggered if I can think of it right now.

yeah Malpas is lined up to be there new manager.....

that would be funny as fuck if true

Sorry about all that. Morning Rage.

Calderwood would be a pretty solid appointment. I would be fairly happy with it. To be honest my heart is still set on a bizarre super random what the fuck out of nowhere appointment.

What, like Malpas was?

Yep.

Fuck off ben you hobo cunt.

Your more than welcome. We've even got a tame poxford fan around here somewhere...........

Holloyway > Calderwood!

Holloyway unemployed
Calderwood employed

The latter two facts not really lending weight to the initial assertion

some swindon fan on the forest forum is saying we have asked permission to talk to ling

Is it just me, or does the thought of Holloway/Ward/Ling/Calderwood not really blow anyones socks off?

Why would that interest Forest fans out of interest?

We're all friends really

Maybe that puts CC out of the running and Ling as the number one target meaning CC will be our leader for a little while longer?

Are we fuck.

Who asked you clough ears!

Ahh .... from Capello

http://www.forestforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=29998.120

Have any of the people linked blown anyones socks off?

Apart from pearce all the other suggestions are pretty naff

Because the thread on there is about calderwood coming to swindon.
If swindon are after Ling that would.......you know what? I'll just put this instead
 :doh:

Capello is a God amongst football rumours.

I'm not too sure how he will appreciate his stuff being touted to other boards, though.

Not really... i'm just beginning to think we're all miles off, or Fitton has been a bit stupid with the 'blowing socks off' soundbyte.

talking of Pearce he is in a job so could be being spoken too??????????

both

There seems to be rump of Forest fans for whom no manager will ever be good enough because none of them are Brian Clough.

oi forest nobber, why do you sing that fucking robson and jerome song all the bloody time, is  graham norton your best mate?

I agree with Herthab-if CC were to be successful,and its very possible,just think how much better that would be than success with any other manager.I'd love it to be him

Thirded. I don't see anything wrong with a former player if they are qualified for the position.

Ive got a feeling Robins at Rotherham may be a target....and a longshot may be Trolloppe at Rovers.....i still want Holloway but thats looking doubtfull now.

I posted this a week ago. Forget where on this forum

In regards to CC, Some contacts through vital at Nottingham confirmed that CC had took training this morning and no approach has been made by us yet. Pretty standard stuff posted all over the place but take it for what you will.

Fitton ruled out a lower league manager. Although he has ruled everyone out

So it is someone employed, who are are allowed to speak to, who isnt in the lower leagues, who is an ex player, who may blow our socks off.

Its obviously Dave Byrne then.

He is employed by us so we'll naturally let him talk to ourselves. He is not in a lower league, he is an ex player and  probably shouts and waves his arms around enough to blow socks off.

But hes a lower league manager!

Maybe he means lower leagues in the entire league system. Doesn't it go down like 25 levels?

If it's a non-STFC related manager I'd like one to have been Paul Tisdale... But he would not be a popular choice, initially if the Malpas appointment was anything to go by.

In my opinion which means fuckall i would have 1 of the following. Calderwood,holloway, and for some reason gary speed.

I'd be happy with any of them too.

I want sheena easton to be manager

She couldn't do evening games Mex. Aparently her baby works from 9-5 and she has to be home after that, so he can find her waiting for him.

She is cruel too...she used to put her baby on the morning train.

She'd only work 9 till 5 as well...

fuck it we want easton out!

Now 5/2 fav

who sheena easton?

Sheena Easton, punk rocker
Sheeee-na Easton, punk rocker

Good old Shire Horses

But according to the bookies we was all set to appoint John Ward - so odd's mean nothing, if it comes from AF's mouth that we have appointed x then I won't beleive it

how can you not believe its sheena?

As noted on here before, Vic Chandler seem to cut their odds everytime someone puts a fiver on any candidate.

its means nothing other than people have been betting on him.

no way, theres more to this sheena thing than meets the eye, fresh new approach, no compensation, used to long hours.

my bet is safe.

Contact VC, see if you can get her on the list.

VC have Calderwood as even money on being the next Championship manager to leave his job, which are very short odds especially when compared to the lowest price in the Premiership - Ince at 2/1 who is a dead man walking at the moment.

I'm tempted to put some money on George Graham for the Swindon job, at 20/1 it looks a good price. I haven't heard much about him and management recently, but he was desperate for a job the last I heard. Always felt some sympathy for him as well, after his ban from football no one gave him another chance. In the grand scheme of things what he did wasn't that bad, plenty have done a lot worse and been welcomed back with open arms.

Anyone heard anything about him recently?

Bit racist Jonny

I'd never even heard of Victor Chandler before Malpas had gone (clearly I'm not a betting man).

How is that racist?

Dead man walking? Black? racist

Ban this racist!

I'm still not getting the link.

How does "dead man walking" have any connotations regarding race?

It just means someone who is about to get the sack.

Here we go cockney rhyming slang for black... Someone ban this Bigot

I've never heard such sick language. I am seriously contemplating not frequenting this forum any more with these people allowed to speak their filth!!

He's having a go at the native Americans now.

Stereotyping is a form of racism in this context.

I thought it was a little joke that prison guards used to share with the inmates when someone was on their way to execution. You've got to lighten the mood in such an environment. If it turns out that they were simply being dismissed, then what kind of punishment is that?! Death row's like a bloody holiday camp these days. 

Yes, I heard him on the radio (5Live I think) saying he wouldn't be interested in a job outside the top 4! So I'd keep your money if I were you.

Mirror and Mail both reporting today we've approached Orient to speak to Ling. But I think it's the same sauce (PA) as both reports are more or less identical. So only counts as one really. And it's the nationals reporting on lower league happenings so is by definition wrong. So probably means Ling's out of the running all together

Mind you Graham fits the profile.  I don't think you can get any more dour and Scotch than that.

http://www.thisiswiltshire.co.uk/sport/sportheadlines/3954432.Ling__Swindon_have_not_come_in_for_me/

You being serious? If so, what planet is he living on?

If I was Fitton I'd have to think long and hard as to whether he would be worth the risk. A Premiership chairman would just laugh if he bothered applying for a job with them.

Sounds like he wants the job if it's offered to him.

Ooooh, you racialist! You don't call them 'Native Americans' any more, you're supposed to refer to them as 'red skins' or 'injuns'.

The ignorance of some people ::)

Just for reference, if you happen to meet one individually, it is good manners to address them as 'Chief' (if you were at a black tie event for example or 'Hiawatha' if it's a more informal occasion.)

"I will say the same thing as I said earlier in the week, Swindon Town know where I am if they want to speak to me."

translates as "Come and get me boys, PLEASE come and get me!"

This has gone on so long now (and looks set to continue a while longer) that I think it will be a bit ant-climatic whoever gets the job.

I have to say though, with all due respect to the bloke because I do quite like him, after all this massive ho ha, it would be a right kick in the nuts if they just ended up appointing David Byrne ::)

No offence Dave 8)

Well we wouldn't have spoken to Ling if we haven't agreed compo with Orient otherwise we'd have been tapping up.

Only if you get caught.

Tapping up ust happen all the time.

Well quite. Thought that when I heard it, the interviewer said would he be interested in getting back into management and he said (to the effect of) probably not, ooh maybe for a top four side, not for a mid-table side though (ie mid-table in the Prem). To which I thought "You'd be so lucky to be asked, mate". I'd also like to declare that I'm not interested in becoming manager of any small-time Premiership sides, it's big four or nothing.

And come to that should any countries be looking for Prime Ministers/Presidents etc, I'm strictly G8 or nothing. None of your half-baked Mediterranean coastal states, or your non-US American minor countries or any of that nonsense. So don't even bother asking Spain, Italy and Canada. Because I'm not interested. Just so we're clear

On account of being out of the game for so long, George Graham has become a bit of a 'yesterday's man'...a modern day Ron Atkinson if you will.

He probably said top 4 because he's earned enough not to bother with the hassle of managing a team on a hiding to nothing.

So looks like it is Calderwood...Alardyce backing out slowed the process down but it looks set to happen. As I said

BSA backing out, when was he ever in?

he was in for the forest role before Sunderland sacked Keane.

Ah, I get you now.

This is still completely wide open so here's my take on the situation

-3 candidates identified and permission given by their repsective clubs to talk to them
-Interviews conducted for all 3 and all 3 are still in contention
-All 3 clubs are contacted and asked about their respective compensation requirments
-1 Club comes back and give a price outside our range - 1 candidate ruled out
-Yesterdays conference confirms that we have identified our man because they fit the bill and the compo is within our budget so now down to personal terms and legalities


Of all three, Speed's contract is likely to deman higher compo and so is likely to be the one ruled out (God I hope I'm right)

So this still leaves Money and Calderwood...

I can't see Fitton passing up the chance for Calderwood - it's too good to be true - I seriously hope I'm right

Edit:  Additionally, Forest have been too quiet about the whole situation and, although there have been reports in local Nottingham rags regarding money being available for the January transfer window, there are no direct quotes from their chairman that Calderwood will be there to spend it...

Quite, it's precisely the kind of thing chairmen say to give the impression of backing their man without having to do the "dreaded vote of confidence" thing. And quite apart from anything else, as I said when we had a similar statement recently in terms of Byrne being given the green light to identify transfer targets, of course they have to start doing that now, even if they're not going to be in charge come January. If you don't do your groundwork in December, any new guy here or at Forest is going to be screwed in January because he'll be starting the transfer window race several weeks behind everyone else

Basically it still could be anyone and you've got to congratulate the board for keeping this so close to their chest.... its like a blimin' soap opera at the County Ground

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I believe that it could be Calderwood but you never know, we've just been bandying around the same names back and forth throughout this thread and the Black Ice Sheena one but any of you reckon it still could be anyone way out of left field and no-one that we've thought of yet....??? I mean, they've kept the secret this long.

I suppose in a way it is better to do it this way than end up dissapointing the fans.

Remember a while back when our manager at the time kept blurting out that we are chasing this player and chasing that player and we dicussed how good he'd be and then he'd end up signing for Southend or Aberdeen instead of us.

In a way, this secrecy is kind of good, if not a tad boring.

It's scarely professional of them - they are only giving away details that cannot identify a single individual thus leaving us speculate the candidate

whilst reading this and laughing at us all!!

Enter stage left our new Manager of Italian origin Morissio Malpassio

They're not going to name the manager until 14.45 on Saturday.

They're going to bring the guy (or gal, it still could be Sheena) into the centre circle shrouded with a huge blanket over their head. (Perhaps a STFC Duvet cover from the shop, what an eyesore that is)

There's going to be big dramatic music and Fitton is going to be carried onto the pitch by the ball boys whilst sat in a huge gilded throne.

He's then going to announce on the microphone - "I present - Your Manager!!!!" and he'll tug the blanket off to reveal the new man.....followed by a glorious firework display from the Stratton Bank.

Lets hope we don't all go "who the fuck is that?"

What, like we did when they unveilled Malpas?!

yep, but with more fireworks and pizazzzz.....

So our new manager is a member of the KKK?

Yes, STFC Duvets are quite in fashion as hoods in my chapter... ;)

I can remember trying to get the name of the new manager before Malpas was announced (My sister knew but wouldn't disclose it)... to be honest even if she had told me point blank I wouldn't have had a clue and a would have thought she had made the name up just to confuse me...

I had heard of him as player... I had vague recollections of him playing for Scotland in Spain 82 etc.... but I must say I was gutted with him as an appointment.

This is what worries me that the new man could be someone that we still havent thought of!  Chris Waddle for example. (What a shite time he had as manager of Burnley)

There must be literally dozens of ex-players/managers outside our sphere of discussion that fit the cryptic clues that Fitton has given us. Can't think of any obviously.... but there must be some.

I keep saying, its Keith Curle.

But the in employment bit does rule out a fair number

Brilliant, thats the kind of character I'm thinking of.... and dreading.... Alan McDonald? Managing in Ireland so compo would be needed...

Its a smoke screen, its a hard job negotiating with the job centre

hmmmm....Money is flattered with link in todays Cronicle but likes Newcastle so..... CC it is???

NEWCASTLE United Academy director Richard Money says he is “flattered” to be linked with the vacant management post at League One side Swindon Town.

The former Walsall and Scunthorpe boss has done wonders for the Toon’s youth system this season, and the United kids are currently on a great unbeaten run in league and cup.

Money was also in charge of the second string at Brunton Park yesterday when he guided the second string to a 6-1 win in Cumbria.

But Money is believed to be on the Robins’ shortlist for a new boss after the exit of Maurice Malpas at the County Ground.

He told the Chronicle: “Rumours are rumours until they become fact, and that’s all they are at the minute.

“It’s flattering to be linked with other jobs, but I’m very happy here.

“I’m enjoying the role, and we’ll see what happens.”

Money arrived on Tyneside in the summer and has improved the youth set-up at United.

Goals from Andy Carroll (3), Jonny Godsmark, Kazenga LuaLua and Samuel Ameobi provided a resounding win at Brunton Park yesterday.

Money – who handed out a half-time roasting to his side – said: “To be honest, I thought we were shocking in the first half.

“We didn’t play with any urgency or tempo, and that’s not been us, certainly since I’ve been at the club.

“We had quite a bit to say to them at half-time, as you can imagine, and they responded well and played proper football in the second half.

“We got the rewards with some very good goals.”

United have offered Shola Ameobi a new deal this week, but his younger brother Samuel has also been in good form for the second string this term and added his third goal of the Central League Cup campaign yesterday.

Money said: “I thought Sammy was excellent. We’re trying to nurture him and give him the right amount of time, but it looks like he’s got a very good future. I thought Ferguson was excellent as well.

“We scored six, but we probably could have had 10.

“In the first half we weren’t stringing any passes together, and it was coming deeper and deeper. We just said to them at half-time ‘play higher up the pitch, and get some good deliveries’.

“Andy Carroll was a handful, and again, he could be anything.”

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2008/12/18/swindon-town-rumours-flatter-richard-money-72703-22504609/

“Rumours are rumours until they become fact, and that’s all they are at the minute."

Alternatively that is similar to Sturrocks "I don't comment on speculation"  just before he joined Plymouth.

well true. But think he has gone ahead and said he likes it there and all that but then again he isn't going to say he hates it so we have 2 new stories against becoming manager b ut only quote from Money.

Do we really want a manager who gives the players a roasting at half time wouldn't just ateam talk do?

If you believe that quote he hasn't even been interviewed, only linked to the job!

theres a bit in the latest adver article
"We’ve gone for someone who’s got experience of working in the Championship, of working in League One, possibly had experience in League Two, and maybe as an added bonus working in the Premiership, not necessarily in a managerial capacity. "

the last bit makes me think money, but then i dont think he's dont anything with a championship side

It's Ron Topp. Definitely.

Fucking hell how many ameobis are there?

Ive counted 3 so far

Now that would be funny

That quote says Calderwood to me. Managed Forest in CC and L1, Northampton in L2 and played in the Premiership.

http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/news/headlines/3988055.BREAKING_NEWS__Money__flattered__by_Town_interest/

people are saying CC is ruled out of the job? where has that come from

Oh bloody hell.  The plot thickens

Just combines 2 stories from their local rags nothing new there.

Maybe it is Gary Speed? haha

The adver guide to being a journo...

ctrl+C
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job done

Looks about right. Forest HAVEN'T Backed Calderwood. they have given the manager money to stay up in January this was reported yesterday, They just re-hashed the 2 stories I posted earlier.

If you go by Watkins' quote about the divisions it has to be Calderwood. If you believe the Nottingham rag, Calderwood's staying.

Money hasn't ruled himself in or out, but he can't be the 'wow factor' candidate Nick Watkins talks of, because there's nothing 'wow' about him.

Either it's someone else or someone's lying.

I still say Calderwood.

maybe it's Fraser Digby and his Washbag???!!!!

I wasn't too bothered about Calderwood but now it's nearly here I would, in the words of Kevin Keegan, Love it.

watkins said the candidate didn't have "wow factor"

YET

Wasn't money Head of Youth at Coventry for a while?  That might explain for the championship bit?  The rest of it covers Money without a doubt (Walsall and Newcastle)

Calderwood was reserve team manager at Spurs

They both seem to fit Watkins quote to be honest, although not everyone seems to be aware of the Coventry thing.

There's just too many links and rumours to keep up with at the moment.  The mail seem pretty sure, updated recently too.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1097471/Ashley-loses-Money-academy-chief-swaps-Newcastle-Swindon.html

But the Adver seem to disagree with that statement

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/swindontown/news/3988055.BREAKING_NEWS__Money__flattered__by_Town_interest/

someone else uses newsnow.co.uk

Ashley loses Money as academy chief swaps Newcastle for Swindon

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Money's gone: Leaving the Magpies without an academy director

Mike Ashley suffered another blow to his crumbling empire today when academy director Richard Money quit Newcastle to take over at Swindon.

The Newcastle chairman appointed Money in June, but the former Liverpool defender  has resigned after just six months at St James' Park.

Although Swindon have yet to confirm Money's return to football management, it is understood that his arrival will be announced later today or tomorrow morning.

Money was recruited by Ashley to oversee player development in the north east.

It is another massive blow for Ashley, who is struggling to convince Newcastle supporters that the club is heading in the right direction under his ownership.

Maurice Malpas was sacked by League One strugglers Swindon last month after just 10 months in charge and Money's target will be survival in his first season.

Sportsmail understands that Money will sign a two-and-a-half-year contract at the County Ground, leaving Ashley to find a new academy director.

They seem to be pretty certain

so, another day on and still we are no closer to finding out who the fuck our manager is.

I was hoping that he would have been appointed early this week so he had enough to time to have some sort of input on the game Saturday. Clearly not.

I'd be pretty fucked off it turns out that the daily-fucking-mail were the first ones to confirm it. I'm suprised they haven't mentioned that Money causes cancer or hides illegal immigrants or something.

theres nothing on the newcastle website about him leaving, so id take it with a pinch of salt

seems pretty certain to be money now, would have loved CC but lets back Dickie Dosh!

tough to know if the mail have looked at the adver and taken a plump on it, or they know anything. It's clear it's money or calderwood.

The thing is the report is an 'exclusive' and initimates he has already resigned which to me intinates insider knowledge...

If it is an inside leak then it wouldn't necessarily be on their official site yet but the mail are notorious for getting 'exclusives' wrong

No quotes though.

I doubt they would be able to say anything until town had announced him as manager if it is indeed him though.

Perhaps Fitton is arranging some sort of Battle Royale between Calderwood and Money in the centre circle before Saturdays game.

It'll be a bare knuckle scrap, their hands will be dipped in glue then broken glass before the bell.

The one that emerges victorious gets the job....

It'll beat the Robinettes as entertainment though....(just)

Maybe they could beat the robinettes as entertainment and whoever kills the most gets the job?

fantastic!

A quite hilarious suggestion....it so needs to happen. I imagine the rockin robin song playing throughout the drubbing.

Maybe money has walked out because ashley was being a cunt in regards to compo? Straws and that

If he could just walk out there wouldn't be any compo. Unless you are suggesting Money his broken his contract and is liable to legal action.

Or the old fashioned way: Newcastle want x in compensation for Money whereas it'll only cost Money y to buy himself out of his contract.

can i just say this Dicky Dosh nickname is fucking awful

only 81 pages to go untill we get to 100. C'mon!

What i mean is maybe we spoke to him, agreed his terms and he was interested and then Ashley prices him out of the move. Money gets pissed off and says well fuck this you cunts

http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/news/headlines/3988468.BREAKING_NEWS__Money_set_to_be_named_Town_boss_after_leaving_Newcastle_/

is this another copy and paste from the adver

Well done magic, have a gold star.

Yes but he couldn't just walk out of a contract without potential legal consequences. It could happen that he does what you say, but I think it unlikely.

If he can just walk out of his contract he would do just that and sign for us.

some of us are working so don't read evey other cunting thread on this subject.

just hope it's sorted as i'm getting a headache

Well the reports are saying he has Batch

http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/football/3988625.Newcastle_lose_Money/

the northern echo would I'm sure not run the same story without getting confirmation (you would think)
This is a very good appointment, I wonder if wise gave him an insight into the club

That'll be 'The Three Amoebis' then

TAXI for nevillew

I am not doubting this for one minute But if he can just walk out on his contract like this then whats been the issue with compo and stuff, also how does Swindon town run through this blokes blood as stated by nick Watkins... im confused

I'd imagine we have paid compo or he had a release clause. I bet "walk out" really means left by mutual consent ot triggered release clause.

If money has left Newcastle, then I would have thought that they would have made a statement by now.

Exactly, how can anyone say that Richard Money has a, premiership experience?  He bloody played for liverpool 14 times in the 1970's, they could have at least said "top flight playing experience", just to keep it truthful.  And the Swindon running in his blood comment is just plain wrong.  Us fans have Swindon Town running through us, not some bloke who's after a job.

he works for Newcastle.

So does their fucking kit man, but I wouldn't say he has premiership experience if he applied for the STFC job!  Come off it fella.

Hartlepool need a manager. maybe he's going there?

Good work inspector gadget!!

Elementary my dear Orange....

Surely lemon entry

Lemon entry.... brilliant...

Anyway, if Money is our man and Watkins said that the search was down to two, can we now have some wild speculation on the irrelevant subject of who the other one was?

Dave Hockaday.

??

They are getting more specific now:


http://www.shieldsgazette.com/nufc/Toon-lose-Money-to-Swindon.4807334.jp

Eh?

Hockaday was mentioned on Radio Swindon as being in the running against Money to get the job today.

It's OK. I'm being a window licker. I didn't see Sam was answering a question and thought he'd heard Hockaday was being appointed..

Keep up Batch FFS!

It took you a nearly whole day to come up with that and I'm the one who needs to keep up?

:)

Wasnt Money one of the main coaches at Man City and Aston Vanilla before he took up management at Scunthorpe?

I could be wrong but I am sure I remember that somewhere in the past.

Also why's he deemed to be this loyal geezer that'll hang around here for years?

Managerial record

93-94 Scunthorpe
2003-4 AIK
2004-5 Vasteras
2005-06 Newcastle Jets
2006-08 Walsall

He hasn't really stuck around long at any of those clubs.

Not being anti-Money here, would just like a few facts to back up NW's comments (if he is even talking about RM)

I knew you were gonna say that Batch!  That's why I waited 24 hours!

What's the most important thing about comedy?...Timing!

Calderwood to be offer a coaching job at Newcastle United

Confirmed

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/7851240.stm

I might wonder down to St. James Park and preform a one-man celebration to welcome him to Newcastle... Maybe he can be my friend, my bestest friend....  :romantic: