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« Reply #2025 on: Thursday, August 4, 2022, 08:19:34 »

After trying to raise ticket prices by 10-20%, raising food prices by 25% is probably not going to go down well. The club is already being accused of rinsing the fans at every opportunity.

Bad news but the real world...im in the food game and prices have gone up 15% minimum.....Of course i do understand that there may be a high starting (selling) point in this case....
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« Reply #2026 on: Thursday, August 4, 2022, 09:02:37 »

Bad news but the real world...im in the food game and prices have gone up 15% minimum.....Of course i do understand that there may be a high starting (selling) point in this case....

I get it, and i don't disagree, just pointing out the reaction to previous price hikes.  
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« Reply #2027 on: Thursday, August 4, 2022, 09:04:56 »

Flash has a kebab van.
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« Reply #2028 on: Tuesday, August 9, 2022, 11:09:26 »

Club advertising for an analyst, requiring a degree, offering £18k p.a. (Slightly less than the real living wage)

Itís market rates, but itís still not a good look. Particularly for a club which wants to differentiate itself as being data led
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« Reply #2029 on: Tuesday, August 9, 2022, 11:11:19 »

Club advertising for an analyst, requiring a degree, offering £18k p.a. (Slightly less than the real living wage)

Itís market rates, but itís still not a good look. Particularly for a club which wants to differentiate itself as being data led

You'd think paying £10k more or something here might actually make a significant difference, relative to £10k more on the playing budget, right? On paper, it seems like a reasonably efficient way to spend the budget.
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« Reply #2030 on: Tuesday, August 9, 2022, 11:55:41 »

Club advertising for an analyst, requiring a degree, offering £18k p.a. (Slightly less than the real living wage)

Itís market rates, but itís still not a good look. Particularly for a club which wants to differentiate itself as being data led

Honestly, a dream job for me - and something I would have probably gone into if data analytics in football had really been a thing when I was still at education age.

ÖbutÖI couldnít live on that wage as an adult (could anyone?) Thatís only 500 more than I started on at Nationwide as a degreeless 18 year old in 2003!!

Just as a pointless stat - our head analyst was renting a room from my MIL last season. Dunno if heís there again for this seasonÖ
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« Reply #2031 on: Tuesday, August 9, 2022, 12:19:47 »

Presumably a football industry issue then. The wages go to players*. The back office on a shoestring. Football finances. Yay.

I can see if you have just left uni back to home it could be a good foot in the door, but only a temporary one.

*well, some.
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« Reply #2032 on: Tuesday, August 9, 2022, 12:28:50 »

These roles as have been said are perfect for recent graduates or people changing direction in their job, but the issue is no continuity in the backroom staff as as soon as they get a years commercial experience they leave for a better paid role and then we have to start again with new people and this slow down progress off the pitch in my view. I think we should be looking to provide a career path for backroom staff where they can develop and remain with the club longer than a year etc through career development opportunities and associated increased salaries. If we dont we will be in a continual cycle of the club being short staffed and not being able progress off the pitch at a decent pace. I know we dont have endless money but maybe this could be looked at in terms of progression plans for staff to try and keep our good people.
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« Reply #2033 on: Tuesday, August 9, 2022, 13:16:04 »

No offence to anyone who does take it, well, maybe quite a lot.  There is next to zero chance I'd be using the Analysis from someone I am only paying 18k a year to.  That's barely even enough to get a Data Admin person, someone who just knows how to compile and store some raw data on a spreadsheet .  At a push they may know how to create a Pivot Table.

Then to require specialisation in football data, and expect any sort of meaningful output?  It's a least half the pay of entry level of a proper Data Analyst.  Surely this is just a paper sorter role?

Interestingly, the point about people moving on quick is rather proven by the fact it seems we lost our Head First Team Analyst last month to Aston Villa - who went on to become an Emerging Talent Scout.
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« Reply #2034 on: Tuesday, August 9, 2022, 13:26:15 »

Employing bargain basement ďanalystsĒ (on that salary, itís likely to be someoneís first role) and coaches has to be a false economy and it does call into question how genuine our supposed model is. Letís hope this is just the real analystís admin/no 2.  Iíd rather have 22 players, a great first team coach and a solid support team, than a squad of 25 with average coaching and a kid with a laptop.  Donít mean to be downbeat - I think a lot of people are slightly edgy at the moment, so letís hope we can thump Walsall tonight and get the positive feel back around the club.
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« Reply #2035 on: Tuesday, August 9, 2022, 13:29:29 »

Employing bargain basement ďanalystsĒ (on that salary, more likely someoneís first role) and coaches has to be a false economy and does call into question how genuine the ďmodelĒ is.

Franchise are paying over double that Salary and a bit more.
Still 9,000 crowds rock up like Saturday which is incredible support at this level.
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« Reply #2036 on: Tuesday, August 9, 2022, 17:35:39 »

Not certain where to put this.

Just been speaking to number one sone who trundles off abroad to watch odd games. He was in Italy over the week-end and was watching Spezia versus Como and heard some English guy shouting the odds at the team and sort of recognised him. Son had a short conversation with him and it turns out he was Marc Bircham (ex QPR and Waterford manager) now first team coach with Como. Son mentioned he was a Swindon supporter and MB said that he had heard that the Town was up for sale again!

Well this the rumour site!

Incidentally, Dennis Wise is CEO at Como and that horrible little Gattuso is manager and they got stuffed 5-1.
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« Reply #2037 on: Tuesday, August 9, 2022, 17:40:11 »

Not certain where to put this.

Just been speaking to number one sone who trundles off abroad to watch odd games. He was in Italy over the week-end and was watching Spezia versus Como and heard some English guy shouting the odds at the team and sort of recognised him. Son had a short conversation with him and it turns out he was Marc Bircham (ex QPR and Waterford manager) now first team coach with Como. Son mentioned he was a Swindon supporter and MB said that he had heard that the Town was up for sale again!

Well this the rumour site!

Incidentally, Dennis Wise is CEO at Como and that horrible little Gattuso is manager and they got stuffed 5-1.
Not heard that it is but really wouldn't shock me if he did sell the club. Has taken some very unwarranted stick the last few months. Some warranted but getting abuse and being told you are no better than Lee Power constantly could make you wonder what the point is
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« Reply #2038 on: Tuesday, August 9, 2022, 17:40:18 »

They just signed Cesc Fabregas also
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« Reply #2039 on: Tuesday, August 9, 2022, 18:37:59 »

Not heard that it is but really wouldn't shock me if he did sell the club. Has taken some very unwarranted stick the last few months. Some warranted but getting abuse and being told you are no better than Lee Power constantly could make you wonder what the point is

I thought he had more about him than that.

You always get such moron fans at any club. Ask Bristol city, or Peterborough or...

If he sells because of that, he didn't get football.
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