you missed the point totally LL.
he's not arguing whether 20mph saves lives.
He's arguing in his experience nobody travels at 20mph if it's not enforced
Exactly, glad someone understood.
FWIW I was actually a bit disingenuous in my previous comment re the 20 zones in Lancaster, there is one place people rigorously comply with it, the speed camera on Quernmore Rd, which interestingly is on such a slope past the camera that if you knocked the car out of gear you would probably still be over 20 without braking fairly hard. The camera is outside one of the entrances to the grammar school and thus I suspect such an example would help in the Swindon case, albeit it doesn't mean that people don't go over 20 immediately before and after it.
Similarly we have a 20 zone outside our primary school, but normally its like a racetrack there and despite repeated requests from the school and governors to the PCSO's to have a presence there we have never seen any monitoring of it, add into the equation some of the peculiar driving and parking of parents dropping kids and its a concerning mix.
The problem with the speedbumps in pinehurst is that most cars, vehicles, can pass over them without any affect. Pointless as they are bag in the middle of the road. At that time of day, there is so much traffic anyway along that road.
Something needs to be done but not sure what.
Do we know any more information on the woman driver?
Having had the pleasure of having the front bedroom of a house adjacent to a speed hump (in a 20 zone) for about 3 months, the other things is that humps generally just lead to people hooning up to them, slamming all on to go over the hump then hooning off away from them.
Problem is, the road itself lends itself to drivers feeling like it should be a faster road. Many times people would be stuck behind me, obviously frustrated.
The issue is the fact that the road is pretty straight but has gradually become more residential through housing developments.
Its a very common problem with peripheral roads around developments which transport planners are all aware of but no one seems to have come up with a one size fits all solution to it, sat in loads of meetings with Council highways officers over the years whilst solutions are discussed.
Actually as with much motoring issues there is a solution, drive to ones ability, drive to ones visibility and don't drive like a self entitled twat, having seen my sister run over by a car when I was a kid (thankfully only minor injuries) I dread to think what that lads family are going through at the moment.