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The Opponent:  Shrewsbury Town

Why do I get the feeling there won’t be a sudden surge of impressionable young  Swindonian’s running down to the nearest willing tattooist to have their name inked upon their forehead’s? OK, the past of Nile Ranger is somewhat, well, shocking.  It seems some may wish to judge him on this past, which, of course, is their prerogative, and others may wish to judge him on the fact that he has been charged with rape. The thing is, regardless of previous convictions, innocent until proven guilty remains a basic tenet of English law, something I am glad of. The only evidence I have the slightest bit of interest in is whether he is capable of scoring the goals and creating the chances that take us, and keep us in the top 6 of League 1. Looking at his footballing past there isn’t really a great deal to suggest his 1 goal in every 25 appearances is likely to do this, but who knows, League 1 could be the level that sees him flourish. Sadly I feel this signing may gather a bit of negative publicity, especially with the inbred folk up the A420. Is Nile Ranger the man to wear the No.9 shirt? Time (and court appearances) will tell.

So, its the other STFC today. Our friends from North Wales have looked forward to this match on the last few occasions now, I think it started when we had the audacity to sign Di Canio as our manager, and turn them over at the County Ground later the same season, much to the disgust of Graham Turner, mixed in with a heavy dose of Dosser provocation. Work won’t allow me to get to this one today, I made the journey last season and have to say the Shrewsbury fans were amongst some of the strangest beings I have came across. The welcoming committee at the pub resembled a scene from outside the Tesco Express in Blackbird Leas and inside the Meccano-like glorified non-league ground a handful of their ‘lads’ spent the entire 90 minutes giving us the finger   From what I can remember, the parking was fucking dreadful at Shrewsbury, a good 15 minute walk to the ground, and the pub was just as far. All in all I’m quite happy to be missing this one, although it would be more fun than collecting garden weathered sofas in Tetbury and Calne.

Worth a visit – If you do have a bit of time (and the yearning to find a decent pub), the indoor market in Shrewsbury is off Baker Street on the first and second floor and easy for non-locals to miss but it is well worth finding and exploring all the way to the top. It has a wide range of stalls selling food, books, music, arts and crafts and most importantly, much much cheese. Apparently it is open on a Saturday, which kind of makes sense.

They’ve served us both – Jimmy Quinn, Jamie Cureton, Tim Parkin, Moses Ashikodi, Jake Jervis, Dave Hockaday, James Collins, Ian Woan, Paul (What a free kick) Evans, Tope Odebayi, and the magnificent Fola Onibuje! Seems to be a fair few strikers amongst that lot.

Where the opposition gather – One of the various Swindon related threads to enjoy. I must say, the past form of these guys has been hilarious at times. I have never seen so much fury from one little club’s main forum! All seems fairly quiet at the moment, although the usual Swindon troll hasn’t visited yet it seems. (NOT GUILTY)

http://blueandamber.proboards.com/thread/84877/nile-ranger

Last 6 – LDWWDL (After 2 games so far this season they have lost 1 and drawn 1)

The Odds –  Shrewsbury 12/5  Draw 12/5 Swindon 5/4. In case you do want to throw some cash away, Nile Ranger is 6/1 to score the 1st goal. With his previous goalscoring ratio, albeit much from the bench, and not much chance of him starting, 16/1 would be about right. I am hoping that my dismissive attitude leads to him scoring a 2nd half hat trick.

The Son Says – We are moving home on Sunday, but he still found the time away from packing a 20ft containers worth of STFC memorabilia to predict a 2-0 victory for the one and only STFC.

The Prediction – If, and its a big if, the same Swindon turn up that did for the first half against Stevenage, it could be a slaughtering. However, I think Nile’s initiation song on the coach on the way up (Coolio’s Gangstas Paradise) could make the lads feel a little uneasy, so I am going to agree with the lad and go for a 2-0 win, goals from Storey and Luongo, 4’926 in attendance with 646 travelling up.

And Finally –  This took some digging, Martin Wood from Shrewsbury, is the world’s tallest town crier, measuring in at a lofty 7ft 2”! Oh yay indeed.

COYR COYR COYR

I'd nearly forgot how deluded those Welsh cunts are. Ta for the reminder Shaw Rosso.

3-0 drubbing in our favour tomorrow. Turner to blame the Kaiser, the senile tosser, Dosser to burn an effigy of Shrewsbury made of lego.

3-0 with a Nile Ranger hat trick in his only appearance before being sent down on Wednesday.

Slightly surprised to see Shrewsbury described as Wales.....unless something serious has happened in Shropshire which I failed to notice.....however, if that is simply an attempt to wind up their fans, it should be very successful!!!  There is no hatred for the Welsh so intense as that from the English side of the border!

Last season they weren't very happy when we referred to them as being Welsh....

Coupled with James Collins starting for us.....

The blow was softened when he missed a sitter in front of their home end and subsequently subbed off after an hour...

All those bitter twats go on about is losing the game at the CG when PDC was here and tapped up Collins.

If we worried about every decision that went against us in games and what opposition managers get up to we would have to hate every team we have ever played!

Hope we take it to them today, pass them off the park and win. I predict a nice 2-0 win.

COYR

Just cant shift the feeling that this is going to be a bit piss easy.

I expect Old Man River is having his daily influx of monkey glands and shredded tiger penis to maintain his youthful appearance - before exploding at 4.45 after witnessing a humiliating 4-0 defeat

1-0 to the Swindon Town, 1-0 to the Swindon Town....

2-0 Luongo and some other bloke who doesn't belong to us.

2-1 defeat.

Good man!   :D

I await your prediction each week as eagerly as I do Rosso's thread start.

The main reason they are bitter is because they had their best season in years and no one gave them any attention as everyone was focused on us and Paolo. We then rubbed salt in by stealing their top scorer. Considering fuck all happens in Shrewsbury, they are gonna be pissed about this for decades.

My favourite part was how much they loathed PDC despite the fact he never had anything but good words to say about them and their bitter old scrote of a manager.

Graham Turner is a bitter old twat. Shrewsbury's dislike for us is hilarious, 1-3 win (Williams, Ward, Ranger).

The latter, my geographic abilities are beyond question :)

Not the main point of your post...but sorry.  Couldn't let that one go.   ;)

I'm driving to Scotland today.  I'm wondering if the wife will notice if I slow progress to the point where we're passing Salop at 3pm.  (Ideally, we'll need to be up around the Lake District by then, so a tall order!)

I'm in Wales and driving home today, tried that one also, but she twigged, and said she hoped I enjoyed the train journey home as there would be no waiting going on, if I "accidentally" ended up  near there.

http://blueandamber.proboards.com/thread/84870/come-on-blues

They really dont like us , I find it mildly amusing that we are disliked by so many other teams. I have absolutely no ill feeling to Shrewsbury at all they are so insignificant in footballing circles apart from the fact they stole our initials.

1 - 2 Luongo and the Lone Ranger

As the subject of fickle football fans is in vogue round here, I remember he got a good booing from one corner of about 100 irate fans, then when his number came up for his substitution, cuing more jeering, he turned around to that corner and gave them a couple of polite claps and ended up getting a standing ovation off the pitch.

Let's beat the welsh cunts!

Done both grounds and I enjoyed the game when we stuffed em under McMoan...

Feeling optomistic about the trip to Wales today. Scoring goals will continue to be a problem so expecting a 0-1 result today. Red Army.....

We are heading home from Staffordshire but I have convinced the family that shrewbury is beautiful and that they would love to spend an afternoon there  :)

It's quite sweet really, I like the run down of reasons to hate us, all factually true.

I think it was two seasons ago that we played them on the August BH Saturday and the Shrewsbury folk festival was on. Great atmosphere in the pubs that lunchtime including jamming sessions with harps and sword dancers in one of the pubs. Shame it 's not a week later as I would have gone there this season.

1-1 with Luongo scoring again.

Shrewsbury is indeed very nice and I very nearly did spend an afternoon there in 95-96 drinking lovely beer in a lovely pub where the Landlord claimed to be a Town fan (I suspected he claimed to be a fan of whatever club's fans were drinking in there). I tore myself away in the end to go to the game (the one where we'd already won the league). It was a great shame when they moved from Gay (tee hee!) Meadow to the Lego Stadium.

Nice to see the taffy sheep shaggers (for the record I do know where they are but they hate being called Welsh) are knowledgable about our team, a quote from their forum.


Didnt realise we had 5 loanees from Spurs and that Ranger was on loan too, I guess they must know something we don't know....or they are just a bit backward in reading facts.

At least they are kind of right JJ, if you asked me about their team I wouldn't have a clue. They got rid of marvin Morgan that's all I know.

I know they signed a loanee England U20 teammate of Pritchards yesterday, a winger from Midlesborough called Adam Reach.

Other transfer dealings so far are Alex McQuade defender a free from Bolton, Dave Winfield defender free from Wycombe, Tamika Mkandawire defender free from Milwall, Akwasi Asante striker  1 mth loan from Birmingham.

Players out are Marvin Morgan to Plymouth Argyle and Matt Richards to Cheltenham.

Except the one about the "homer ref". Apparently Shrewsbury seem to have in their heads that a referee from Salisbury must be biased, ignoring that fact it wasn't a pen - it was outside the box (just), the lino didn't flag, the ref like most in L2 was just dogshite, plenty of decisions went against us that season and one dodgy decision in February doesn't lose you the title.

I liked Shrewsbury hating us. Don't know why but I think we might come unstuck today.

Venkman's use of Google knowledge of British football at all levels is unrivaled.

I think they'll calm down a bit once Shrewsbury beat Swindon.

The only time I predicted a result correctly was at half time at the Manor when we were being stuffed 3-0. I said we'd get a draw, and John Trollope scored to make it 3-3. My memory could be wrong though, so I'll check that later.

Last match Chang got it right (unless his forecast was a post-match edit), so if he predicts a win, I'll go with him. Or anybody else that predicts a win. Attendance 3,506, 1,200 from SN1

It actually wasn't google :D there is a full list of transfers of all clubs at the football league web site.

SuggWillSugg on Twitter:

So the chairman's telling people in the pub we've made a £450K signing. Swindon Town never do things the conventional way.

Interesting.

SWINDON TOWN v Shrewsbury: Foderingham; Thompson, Hall, Ward, Byrne; Kasim, Harley, Luongo; Storey, Williams, Pritchard.

Subs: Belford, Barthram, Archibald-Henville, McEveley, Smith, Waldon, Ranger.

No Reis. Is he injured as not on the bench?

Good stuff Rosso.

Injured according to Adver

What he means is we've signed a striker who would be worth 450k if he wasn't facing rape charges.

Still no Mason. Hope it's nothing more serious than initially thought.

Anyone know anywhere I can listen online from abroad ?

Not back until Wednesday and getting withdrawal !!!!

STFC Player is your only option as a forrinner.

Who the hell are the commentators? Thought I was listening to the Shrewsbury commentary

I think I might fall asleep soon.

One is Tom Jones but the other I have no idea but he is soooooooooo boring.

It's not unusual.

Why why why.

Oh FFS

Reach 1-0 to Shrews

fuck sake

This radio commentary is dreadful. Sending me to sleep

Same here.

Think I might have a nap.

Tom Jones isn't very complimentary about our style of play

Had a bad feeling soon as I heard the commentators. Useless! I'll blame it on them.

fuck me this is boring

Get Nile on the pitch!!  :suicide:

Agent Flint strikes again, Shitty one down . . . .

Yawnfest.

Who is this commentator ?

He's the new permanent BBC Swindon Broadcast Journalist, replacing Chris Wise.

Oh great ! I thought it was just someone filling in. Shaun Hodgetts is better.

 :zzz: :no: :headhurts: :headhurts:

We sound really poor today.

Definitely sounds like the Shrews have been more threatening.

A bit of a hairy period... :girlgiggle:

(http://www.acuteaday.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/shrew-on-rock.jpg)

Scary.

Well this is shit and the game doesnt sound much better.

We sound dreadful. The commentator also sounds dreadful.

Cmon....strike at goal...

Not listening to the game as BBC Wilts commentary never reflects the game very well. Stats on bbc website (sometimes out as well) don't look good though.

Just got to keep playing the football, they scored through a mistake which will happen the way we are playing, the worry is the lack of chances.

What minute will Ranger appear? i'm going with 68

This.

 Shrews 8 shots to our 1 according to the beeb.  :hmmm:

Not a shot on goal....fuck me...Donny last year again...

Cooper in!

Some rather apt half time entertainment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAc4q1YqdOU

Hold on, we are losing? I've spent the last 30 minutes thinking it was 0-0. FFS.


Anyone want to give an overview of the goal?

Sounds like it's going to be one of those "non-event" games.  Cooper needs to get the hairdryer out if he wants the job full time, let's see what effect he can have.

Need someone to hold the ball up away from home. Ranger for Williams is the change I'd make.

Surely Ranger is only up for 20 minutes or so at this stage?

All the outrage of signing Ranger, now everyone on twatter is saying we should bring him on to turn the game around.  Fickle...

Have you correlated the outraged, and those wanting him subbed on Bernard. Have you?

Only listening on radio but was a ball across our own back line that was intercepted and buried by Reach
Playing around at out from the back is ok as long as everyone is comfortable receiving the ball and the passer is aware of who is around

Thanks Wooly. It was always going to happen at some point I suppose.

Attendance: 4,943 (545 from Swindon)

this also seems apt when it comes to STFC lately

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvCDQZ3pnu0

Nope, just a general observation.  I have something that gets in the way of spending a vast amount of time substantiating my posts....   a life.  :D

A life you say, hmmm, can't see it catching on.

And it will happen again many times this season, something that we will have to get used to and expect if we are to play sexy football every week.

There is no Plan B....

A trendsetter I am, hmmm

Damn it, the scum are winning again. Peaking too early.

Pritchard and Luongo both booked.

Slavers have equalised too  :crash:

And shitty have equalised

I'm getting the feeling that avoiding the forums tonight will be a good idea.

Got to make these corners count!

Got to give the Lone Ranger 20 mins to equalise and then hit the winner before sliding in front of Turner on his knees!

Cmon FFS this is shit!

I don't know. It'll be interesting to get an opinion off those that went to see if it really was as poor as it sounds.

Louis Thompson coming on...

TBH there has been a few nights like that in the off season..

Cunstable makes it 2-0 to the scummers

Come on, this isn't working, lets push Storey up with Williams and give it a go.

Fods keeping us in this

I think that already happened in the first half

Ranger coming on

For two minutes, they reverted after half time according to commentator.

Here comes Ranger...

FFS - Lucky....

Enter the 'Dragon'....Cmon

Sounds like Arsenal are having a 1st day implosion.

Here's Ranger...

we reverted back to the lone striker at the start of the first half. Presumably Spurs called and told us off for playing 4-4-2.

Aah, ok missed that..

Well this has been dire listening in terms of performance and commentary.  If this chap is going to be commentating every game, I'm going to struggle to carry on listening.  I don't think I've ever heard worse?

Sky mentioned we've lost our last 5 away games and only scored once.  Obviously doesn't include Brentford, but seems like the new squad are picking up where the old one left off on the road.  Oh and Roberts has just scored again for Chesterfield!

Is anyone else having problems with Player? - keeps coming up 500 Internal Server Error

No problems here.

Church scores for Charlton

Sounds like Ranger is bringing other players into the game, laying simple balls off, which is what we need him to do, as well as smash the odd one in.

you probably could have chosen a better verb there :)

Seems like consistency will be out trademark this season. I wonder if every game will end 1-0......

Place one in with the consent of the goalkeeper?

perfect

All over then 2-0

bollox
2 nil down

2-0. FFS, it's even messed up my prediction league result now.

Yeah, in hindsight you a probably right... :)

Not looking good for Cooper next week.

Cock

Slave traders are losing though...

Oh well onwards and upwards.

See who is appointed next week and hope we smash the Gills!

Byrne Fuck Up.....

Hopefully this will shut up the 'Cooper In' Brigade...

Doubt this result alone will have a baring.

Another defensive mistake
We have made both of their goals

And the slavers are losing again

Another cock up apparently

Well, if Cooper needed this game for the job, he might just be struggling a little..

The commentator actually sent me to sleep. Bollox we are two down

Er, no.

indeed, how dare people air their opinions on a public discussion forum

Hmmm. Was going to go for a 2-1 prediction, but my heart said we'd score and hold on for 1-1. Sounds as if I'll be wrong on both counts!

Jake Hyde scores again for Barnet, turned out to be a decent signing for them.  Fair play to the lad

Still rather JMac to Byrne at left back.

This game sounds like its highlighted our lack of options a bit. Sounded pretty comfortable for Shrews.

One thing we are getting with this passing football is yellow cards,

not sure if McEveley is anywhere close to 90 minutes yet, he's been playing with the development squad.

He was on the bench so I presumed he's ready to play. If not then we're clearly even more short than I thought!

That's that then.  Byrne error.  He could end up being a bit of a liability, made numerous mistakes last week but got away with it.  I've like to see McEvely back in there tbh if he's back to full fitness.

Will be interesting to see how the next few days pan out, I don't personally think Cooper has done enough to get the job on a permanent basis.

As a sub perhaps, not sure he's ready for 90 minutes. Certainly lack of options at LB though.

If they really wanted to give Cooper the job i don't think they would have taken this long do it. Had he won 3 of the 4 he may of had a chance. We will see next week i guess.

Arse. We are allowed to put 2 up front when 1 isn't working FFS.

Sunderland lost.

tee hee hee

I think you'll find there were 3 up front

If Jay McEvely is the answer,I dont like the question

Obviously not there but didn't someone suggest that we reverted to 1 up front after half time.
If so that coincided with us playing better.

Paul Hart 3 up front, or really 3 up front.

That worked well then

He is a good league one defender and is much better defensively than Byrne in my opinion. Not sure we have enough defensive players in midfield to warrant having two attacking full backs. We may have to play it safer away from home.

The question is "Which left back is better that Byrne".

Be interesting to hear from those who were there

Hayley Engraving Page [/b]

Sounded like we were lightweight upfront with little movement and sloppy in defence

Didnt do Coopers chances any good of getting named manager

There were 3 up front Vic, that's a ridiculous question. Of course Jon Paul McGovern is a striker.


In other news, Arsenal lost 3-1 and the home end was 90% empty at full time. Disgraceful support from a group of fans that have been thoroughly spoilt over the years.

No the question is "who cares about our left back when our caretaker manager is clearly a massive liability?"

Even Jeff Stelling just commented 'Swindon need to appoint a manager and quickly, they've now lost their last 6 away games and only scored 1 goal'.  Not sure the 4 games last season are overly relevant, as we had a different squad and at that point a manager, but it's not the best of starts.

The concerns for me are how much influence a manager will be allowed to have and the continued desire to play with a formation that sounded to be struggling.

17th in the table
Above the slavers so all is not lost  :beers:

I seem to recall a 3-3 (4-4) draw away at Brentford towards the end of last season...

I assume its league games only
Play offs dont count in that respect

"Conference here we come"

Really?

I wonder how much of our new style of play is directed by cooper. Could it be coming from above him. I think whoever we get as a manager is going to have to be a puppet. Losing 2-0 to shrews is shit

What would they do if they supported Carlisle...1-5, 0-4, 0-4 in the first three league games - Jebus ???

Develop a fucking sense of perspective, something that has been direly lacking amongst our fanbase for as long as I can recall...

Need to sort the manager situation out this week. Cooper or not the decision needs to be made and announced.

I'm not sure football is the game for you Sonic, to be honest.

I suspect the style of play is dictated from above and would continue when manager appointed
Question is does Cooper have the necessary management/coaching skills to get the players we have to play that way

I dont think he does

I'm inclined to agree.

Beat the pikeys and all will be well with the world again.

Its disappointing but not a disaster. Paolo had a worse start but we still won the league. I don't know if this team is of that calibre, but we are in the early stages of the season so with a new team. Inconsistency isn't surprising.

It always makes me smile. Do people expect us to go through the season unbeaten? Last weekend people were saying the football we played was something special and  Cooper should get the job permanently.
I don't really think 3 league games and a cup tie with Torquay is enough to formulate a reasoned viewpoint on how well, or badly, this season will map out.

McEvely is the wrong answer

It really isn't.

You need to take your own advice on this one.

Either that or for once actually give some clear, logical reason as to why you think Cooper deserves the job.

Tamworth. Cooper achieves 0 wins in 5. Tamworth are bottom when Cooper leaves the club.
Peterborough. Cooper manages 1 win in 13. Peterborough are bottom when he leaves the club.

Today again we lose away without scoring a goal. And it could/should have been more than 2-0.

Cooper has achieved little in the game as a manager. He lacks league experience. I question his coaching ability and his tactical nous. I question his ability to change a game, and even to motivate our players.

He is simply the cheap option.

I don't think Cooper deserves the job.

I've said that Cooper may as well be appointed because they're giving Cooper a chance to shine. If the inevitable is that Cooper is appointed because he fits the ethos of this board then I'd rather that it happened sooner rather than later. The uncertainty is potentially damaging and does nobody any favours.

I don't disagree with you regarding his record. I won't comment regarding his coaching ability, tactical nous, ability to change a game or motivational ability because I'm neither qualified to comment or afforded the opportunity to witness any of the aforementioned first hand.

Personally I'd rather the board appointed someone like Tisdale.

It's the third game of the season, lets give the team a bit more time to gel. 

In an Adver poll 80% of our fans want Cooper to get the job...in other Adver polls 80% believe in Santa Claus and that Elvis lives on the dark side of the moon.

Fact is Cooper should have been appointed weeks back,it has nothing to do with his past record but all to do with the players(most very young) knowing what the hell is going on.

Course if he turns out to be a disaster then you get rid.

Also when you have the board picking the team....well work it out for yourselfs.
Think the board are working very hard to try and make things work....but the longer we go with no one in charge it will only get worse.

That's a decent reply to be fair.

Not post game interview write ups from anyone?

Based on one mistake in one game? Have you forgotten how poor McEvely was?Or did you not think so? Not arguing just interested in what you think McEvely's strengths are.

I think McEcerly's strength is in defending. His distribution and forward movement isn't best at times. That's probably why he's not in the team.

I've not been impressed with Byrne. I think he's defensively weaker, sometimes positionally suspect. Yet at times he looks half decent and could improve (being young).

Not a disaster IMO....appointing Cooper full time would be (IMO)....

Out of curiosity, would those who are opposed to Cooper's appointment as manager want him out of the club entirely?

Nope...At least the cunt didnt cut and run...Number 2 would be ok by me.

Number 2 is fine by me.

I don't know if I want him or not as I don't know who else is available to us.

With a young small side trying to play passing football we will win some and lose some. The manager really isn't that important and the players we have here are regardless of who that is. Anyone anti Cooper needs to wake the fuck up.

Why? If they genuinely believe he can't get the best out the kids isn't that a valid viewpoint?

Indeed I have heard a rumour from a reliable source that the tie up with spurs has nothing to do with any relationship between Power and Sherwood.  Instead as spurs fans have a reputation for being whining deluded and getting on the back of their players they were seeking a similar environment for the players to experience in the lower leagues.  

The players are not here for playing experience - just to be shouted at to get it forward.

No idea if it will be Cooper or not,  but if not and it's a name so to speak its going to upset a lot of people who are desperate to portray the puppet manag idea as fact.

Has anyone commented on Ranger's first touch yet? Only it might give us some clue as the outcome of his court case...

Think arriba means that the die is cast...whoever's coach has got told the style of play, got given the players, so get on with it. Given they're young and inexperienced they're going to have bad days as well as good, so it makes fuck all difference who's boss.

Can't really comment on much as I wasn't there, but it came as no surprise when the goals came from mistakes from Hall and Byrne. They don't look good enough to me. And in the LB debate, I'd rate our options as McEveley>Smith>Byrne from all the games I've see the 3 play in our colours.

Agree with all this. Jay Mac is a much better defender and that's what I want first and foremost in our defence, attacking ability is almost a bonus.  His experience would be usefull as well given the youth within the starting lineup.

Bryne could very well a usefull asset to the club in the future.

correct assumption Reginald.

In the 2011-12 season we only managed 3 points out of a possible 15 in the first 5 games....what a shit season that turned out to be.

I mean, we knocked out our rivals in the Capital One Cup (1st Round), Got to the 4th round of the FA Cup having knocked out Premier League opposition, had a day out at Wembley and won the league..

What a fucking shambles that was.

Just got back.

Still trying to work out who's who even with a programe. Pritchard looked to lightweight. Williams huffed and puffed. Ward solid as you's expect. Fods same was Ward but really had no chance with the one on ones for the two goals, which should have been three certainly if not four or five. ineffective up front. We'd still be playing now and not socred. Pissing about along the penalty area cost us. They could have kept us in our own half easily for most of the game, in fact we made it even easier by doing just that for them. Ref was as usual a cock.

Good away support, though not very noisey. Piss poor home support. Nile will be an asset when he gets cleared form his impending session with the beak. I understand there is going to be more tranny activity next to warm the cockles of your hearts. Jed mooching around The Brooklands pub before the game giving tit bits tot hose who cared to ask, engage or listen apparently. I'm sure some others will add as I have this from a geeeeezer who sits behind me in the DRS.

Miss the gypsies next week so lets hope we can get back to winning ways.

On a positive note we are on course for 69 points with our 100% home record  :D

Meh. Gash today. First goal was more down to a shit pass from Kasim if anything. Their clearest chances came from our mistakes, not to say they weren't good value for the win but we gave them a hand

Just got back. We were dire today.

Tempo was too slow, we lacked creativity and we were awful at the back. I can't think of one player who deserves praise. As previously said, Pritchard seems too lightweight, he wouldn't challeng for anything. Luongo was anonymous and Kasim was poor on the ball. Can't moan too much at Williams as he had no service.

Shrewsbury were still rubbish but they hardly had to get out of first gear today which illustrates how bad we were. Their fans also helped to reiterate my opinion of how deluded they are.

I was positive going to my first game of the season earlier after the positive reports from the start of the season so it was a shame we didn't turn up today. However, we are a young team and we are going to have off days, we need to stick with them as I'm sure there is a good league one side there.

Thats one of the most ludicrous posts I've seen for a long time. I'm not anti or pro Cooper, simply a town fan who wants to see us be as successful as possible. If it wasn't for Kevin Macdonald Cooper wouldn't even be here - he certainly wasn't a candidate before Macdonald got the job, and he shouldn't be now. Quite frankly, if there's this level of debate going on about whether he is the man for the job, that alone provides me with the answer - he is not.

Well, at least that performance is a reality check for those who wanted Mark Cooper to be given the job off the back of an opening day defeat, a win against a League 2 side who have yet to win a game and shipped three at home to the scum today, and 45 minutes against Stevenage Borough.

A dismal display, devoid of any effort or quality. Not one chance of note - a long ranger from Ryan Harley which was straight at and easily parried by the Shrewsbury 'keeper being the best we could muster.

Lets start with the positive. We may well get a proper manager in as soon as possible after that performance.

Now the negatives, and there are many.

The much discussed 'backline passing' cost us a goal early doors after a pass by Kasim to Hall was intercepted by the impressive Shrewsbury left winger who neatly finished. What followed in the first half was as ineffective display as I have seen for a long time, with us continuing to pass it about around the back and getting nowhere. No attacking threat what so ever, the one rare foray forward ending in a low cross from Harley being easily gathered.

The front three of Pritchard-Williams-Storey were starved of service but Williams was a lazy, moaning bastard who should have been subbed at half time. If Storey wasn't a youngster who has come up through the ranks he would get a much harder time from our fans because, if we are being honest, he is a very, very limited footballer who offered no attacking threat today or last week infact. Pritchard tried to make things happen when he got the ball but failed and went to ground a fair bit without getting anything.

We came out for the second half looking sharper but that didn't last long. The positionaly inept Thompson was found in the middle of nowhere and Wes made a neat save from their winger to keep it 1-0.

First sub, and Louis Thompson replaced Kasim, who looked exactly like a player whose only outings last season were for Luton and Macclesfield Town.

Luongo, last week being touted as a future Premier League player, this week looked like a future conference player. Probably his worst display in a Town shirt. Harley was also poor.

As the half wore on, there were cries of 'Bring On The Rapist'* and we saw Nile 'he'll do you up the arse, and he won't even ask'* Ranger entered the fray for Williams whose number going up was met by cheers from the mainly silent away supporters.

* these were the loudest chants of the day from our fans.

A cock up between Ward and Hall put their striker clean through but he somehow shot wide. We failed to offer anything, Ranger had a few decent touches and when fully fit I reckon he will be a handful.

Now then, lets get onto my favourite player Nathan Byrne. I was staggered we signed him for a fee but in his defence I admitted he was ok at home but shit away. Well, in his first away match since his horror show at Griffin Park, he seemed to have got through it without error.

With the match nearly over,  is then robbed of the ball in our box, and their striker has an easy finish. Absolute liability but unfortunately he is un-dropable.

My thoughts that this side would struggle on the road were confirmed. Shrewsbury are a poor outfit and will be down there. We will cause plenty of sides issues at home but need some more experience and physicality on the road if we are to pick up enough points for the expected promotion charge.

Shrewsbury were chanting 'boring, boring Swindon' - they weren't wrong.



 

Just got back. We were poor. But we're still spending money and signing players....the new manager story is a red herring, we've splashed out 400k+ on a striker. From Turkey. With the initials JJ.

Half a million nearly for Jake Jervis :no: :no:

That can't be true

And to add to that:

Plan B is needed, as this sort of football style wont be easy when the pitches start digging up.

Please stop fannying around at the back, sometimes it's better clearing your lines than trying to find a pass with two players on you.

It's sometimes good to watch, but it's finding the right blend.

I would've kept Williams on, and kept two up front when chasing the game late on. The 20% fit Ranger won a lot of challenges, but no one there to lay it off to.

Are home form and pitch will be vital on our position.

I thought you were joking.

Then Google told me Jervis was genuinely playing in Turkey.

Shirely not.

Watch this space. Or BBC Wilts or the Official site. Dont watch the Adver, they dont break stories anymore due to an alleged lack of trust. Its a TTE.com exclusive.

Agree with Dr Chang,
This was a very poor performance. Totally controlled by an average Shrewsbury side. I thought Ranger done more in his 15 minutes than the rest of the team did in 90
 Entertainment value, zilch.
The supporters who travelled by coach when asked to name their mom refused to name anyone such was the their apathy.
A few more players like Ranger would'nt go amiss

We paid £100k for Byrne so it seems quite possible. Utterly ridiculous if true.

That's more like making a point than apathy I would have thought :hmmm:

I think it's fair to say that 400k for Jake Jervis would not be a bargain. If we were paying say, 0k then fair enough. 400k is insane though*

*if true.

I'd much rather we signed Leon Clarke then paid £450k for Jervis to be honest, at least Clarke scores lots of goals.

As said above - this lot spent a 'significant' sum on Nathan Byrne - it wouldn't surprise me at all if we spent silly money on Jake Jervis.

It would surprise me if we blow that much on him. It would surprise me if we paid anything other than a nominal.

So either we're skint and haven't got a pot to piss on or we're wasting hundreds of thousands of pounds on shit players like Byrne and possibly Jervis - which is it?

Where has the Jake Jervis 'rumour' come from? Any substance in this?

Jake jervis will be a free agent any day now.Would rather throw 450k at Spurs for Luongo

Someone on twitter said Jed was telling fans about a £450k signing in the pub today.

Ah I saw that, I hadn't heard it was him though....I know a few fans had tweeted Jed and mentioned Jervis to him...then Jervis tweeted saying he wouldn't be against a move back to England....I'm wondering if it's a case of 2+2=5?

my post is ludicrous yet you come up with that?
Counter it properly or jog on. Don't think you even ready it properly judging by your post.

Can't argue with Chang's summary tbf.

I knew this reaction would come once we lost convincingly. This result was always coming and it will again. Get used to it this season. If you think a new manager will come in and change a squad thatbhas been picked for him and make small, inexperienced but technically good players into 6'3 brutes then think again.
If you want a plan b then you need the players to deliver it. A new manager won't make any difference.

Jed doesn't help as he's a cock who keeps raising fans expectations. A prick who I can't wait to see the back of to be honest. But I don't blame the side or Cooper for where the team are. They are doing as well as can be expected.

Jed is a total wanker in my opinion, can't wait for him and his cronies to sell up and fuck off.

What cronies,  all the people he has at the club appear to be doing jobs and doing them ok?

As for selling up I am sure Jed would be delighted to sell up if you made him a bid, apart from his somewhat cringeworthy PR I don't get the hatred for him,  without him I understand we possibly would not have a club as he took over when no one else wanted to? 

Given the Spurs shit, Powers influence and knowing that if I shook hands with Jed' I'd need to count my fingers and good old Nile, I am really losing interest. The results don't bother me as I've seen some real shit over the years but I just think there is something really rotten here.

I agree totally, It's Jed and Power that are the problem i think, if they had appointed a manager give him a bit of a budget let him choose his own players and tactics then fair do's but it's all this Spurs crap and I'm not convinced about our style of play, wasn't even convinced against Stevenage as it was asking for trouble passing the ball around the back all of the time.

If we pay £450,000 for Jake fucking Jervis it will be the most laughable thing this board have done.  As Sonic said, we've either got some money or not.  If we have, I'd have rather used it to pay wages and keep a couple of the players we let go tbh.

Have to agree with Arriba, Jed is a complete cock.  What sort of chairman ponces around pubs before a game giving out bits of information about transfers.  Utterly pathetic and attention seeking and he could well end up with someone punching him before long.

Interesting point that Chang made about Storey as well.  It looked a bit like he was carrying an injury  last week, totally off the pace and made a lit of errors.  Sounds like he was no better today and also sounds like the Williams boo boys were out again.  Wouldn't surprise me if he's the next oneout the door tbh.

It's a shame it's having this effect, but I feel exactly the same.  Probably going to give next Saturday a miss, as it's a friend's 40th and there's a do starting at 2pm.  Wouldn't have dreamed of missing the second home game of the season previously and would have turned up after football.

I'm pissed off I renewed my season ticket and have put money into their pockets tbh.

Feel pretty similar. Didn't even listen today. Hope I'm seriously wrong but it's difficult to get interested at the moment, even though I agree with the self sufficiency stuff. The right thing by the wrong people in the wrong way.

missed this,wasnt ignoring you.
I cannot see how anyone could tell if he wasn't getting the best out of them yet.

I don't come on here much anymore, and this page alone is reason enough to not post, or even look again. This is posters are described as mongs, but it's far worse here now, previously reasonable posters brains have turned to shit. Cant see the wood for the trees imo.

That would now be the previous page.

The constant regurgitation of peoples opinions expressed as though they are facts. Same old drum everyday with no basis or evidence either way.

The old "lining their pockets" insult

Still waiting for a shred of evidence to support this ludicrous claim

Some vintage turd on the last couple of pages hahaha

I would imagine the cost-cutting exercise was purely to reduce the wage bill to manageable proportions.

We may well have disposable cash with the sale of players which is being put back into the team.

Sounds sensible to me - whether it will be money well spent is another thing

So without reading pages of people Jed bashing, basically we were shit yesterday?

No way on gods green earth are we paying 450k for Jervis

he only cost Elazigspor 50k euros and he doesn't appear to have a squad number

Pretty much. Didn't make it hard for Shrewsbury. Just faffed around with the ball in front of them and made silly errors which cost us two and should've been 3 goals. We started the 2nd half reasonably but that didn't really last long and it wasn't until Ranger came on that we gave them something to think about.

I think Jed will have to ask the Pikey fans to form a circle with their caravans next weekend.

Lucky heather, anyone?

I probably shouldn't have used the word pockets, as I wasn't meaning Jed's personal pocket, but the club as a whole.  I lost a lot of interest in the close season and was hoping it would return when the football started.  Unfortunately it hasn't and therefore I wish I hadn't spent a lot of money renewing my season ticket. I don't like the direction the club appears to be taking, but that's a personal opinion and not really sure how the fact I've lost some interest because of it makes me a mong tbh?

On a related note, do people honestly thing it's normal for chairman of football clubs to give out information on transfer activity in pubs?

I think it is too early to say too. I think the evidence points to Coopers record being suspect but I agree that if the scope of the job is limited to getting the player you are given to play in a system and style you are told to play then shelling out loads of cash on a 'top' manager is a bit pointless. They will be hamstrung to the point of being ineffective.

On the other if the manager has more of a free reign than that then I wouldn't rush to appoint Cooper.

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On another note, is it just me or has Morshead been a lot quieter since his bollocking clear the air meeting.

No. At the moment, with a 'not terrible' start to the season, and a successfully reduced budget, I'm a lot less 'anti' with regards to the board and the running of the club than I was. I do, however, think Jed is a bit of a weapon. I don't like what I see and hear of him (as a person) at all. He's classless, unprofessional, and comes across as a bit of a dickhead.

Afraid I have to agree with Sutton

What you afraid of ;D

Cheers. I would love this nice football philosophy to work but I fear at this level we are going to be seeing this kind of match report a fair amount this season.

What you find it baffling that people post opinions about football on a football forum?

I actually agree with Sutton that the Forum has gone downhill, but it's because if your opinion isn't the same as the majority or those who constantly side with each other, it's seemingly not worth giving.  The whole element of debate on  here has now gone, it generally ends up in an argument and people insulting each other.

Liked Sutton's observation but was it not simply a re-affirmation of the 25% football and 80% bollocks strapline?

Wait a minute, this post doesn't fall within the 25% football...

I'm off to watch Newcastle next Saturday and missing the Gills game, we will therefore win so don't worry.

so to all of you who insist cooper isn't the man for the job - who do you think is? 

saying that the start we've had means he's not up to it or whatever many posters have said is just arbitrary clap-trap.  if we'd had a manager in before the start and had exactly the same results would you all be calling for the guy's head already?

so many people looking to rubbish the club at the moment and that won't change if a new man comes in.  if we yield 20 odd points from the next 10 games you'll all be moaning about something else entirely, if we bag 10 or so points from the same number of games then it will all be, oh, maybe we should have given cooper the job, at least he knew the players better, blah, blah, fucking blah.

yesterday was a bit crap, yes but the end of the sodding world it isn't - maybe we should start to operate like many soaps and dramas do, different writers for each episode, and just have managers on a weekly basis because no matter who may get the job at least 80% of fans will find a reason to hate him such is the lust for blood at the moment.

Not surprised to see Byrne mess up for their 2nd goal. Didn't rate him as a full back when he was on loan last season, and still don't now!

He'd been fine up until then.

He was ropey against Stevenage. Never a good idea to play a right footed player at left back.

Was good to see the centre halves covering back to give him some help though wasn't it?

Our players shouldn't make mistakes. Ever. And we also should never lose a game. If only the board would realise this then everyone would be happy.

there does seem to be a huge number who follow town that just do not seem to grasp that we are a L1 team and that as such mistakes will be made, sometimes often.

It's not ideal but he's young, mistakes will happen. He'd made some good tackles and interceptions during the game and was far from being one of the poorer performances.

How is Alex Smith as an option at LB? I've heard fuck all about him to be fair

didn't look too bad at boro, might be worth a second look

Don't disagree about Byrne's quality but on that statement i have to say Dennis Irwin. There are plenty of others.

Less attacking than Byrne, but seemed solid defensively at P'boro. And I'm yet to see him control a simple pass out for a throw by using the outside of his right foot; so on that fact alone, I like him more than Byrne.

Byrne is way too small to be a fullback, teams will exploit him like yesterday. Every time the goalie kicked it, it went towards him, and the only way he wins a header is if he fouls the player.

not true, he may not be strong enough or a good enough defender to be a full back but his height is not necessarily a reason to write him off as a full back - Man Utd's first choice right back is rafael - he's a short arse, our poty last term was NT, again, he's pretty tiny - rottweiler inside mind :)

He's too small and too weak, his positional sense is awful and he's being played on the wrong side. In the Premier League where more teams play football you can get away with smaller fullbacks, as they are mainly used for attacking. In League one teams aren't as technical good will use the hoof to exploit his height.

Thompson is bigger and more physical.

Don't think size is an all important factor in being a full back.
According to wiki (!!!) Byrne is 5ft 10. Jamie Vincent was only 5ft 11 and wasn't exactly built. Could bloody defend though - which to me in the most important attribute in a defender.

What you will find with players like Byrne etc out of academies is that they can often struggle with the hussle and bustle of first team football, particularly at our level. At academy level clubs are trying to out football each other. Keepers play it short, passing football is encouraged etc. Not alot of direct football is played at all. In league 1 getting pelted by high balls-direct style football with 6 foot plus players in their twenties coming at you is a massive wake up call. This was and is my biggest fear with so many young kids in our team.

Byrne clearly lacks a bit physically and this was apparant vs Brentford, highlighted again yesterday with the goal conceeded. The lad has to learn quick as the fans will soon get on his case if it continues. If I was setting up a team to play us i'd be instructing my players to hit diagonal balls over the full backs as that is where we can be ripped apart. Think we will struggle against direct and physical sides this season. To be expected

that and gamble on misplaced passes between our back line...

Yep. Press high and force errors

we have missed mason in the last couple of matches, the other midfielders all want to sit deeper, mason is naturally more attacking.  i still think we have a decent side, just need to tweak things a little - ranger will help in this regard if found innocent as he'll offer a completely different 'out ball' to what we've had so far

We are going to be inconsistent this season.

We'd better get used to it

Agree with Arriba - the diagonal balls will be dangerous but they can be stopped with pressure on the ball in central midfield. It is the part of the Michel's-like play that we are missing, and they need to go together.

The first couple of pages on this thread are pure comedy  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Thanks for the points, didn't think we'd get any again this season tbh but yesturday you proved me wrong, we were unlucky to only come away with 2 goals in the end! Enjoy your season guys.

fuck off or we'll set dossy on you.

I'd just like to be the first to mention school holidays and escapees from asylums. I think that should pretty much cover the next couple of pages.

As you where.

PNE Thor was my favourite.  I wonder if he's been re-captured yet.

PNE Thor was/is outstanding. 

Have to say from the clips Hall and Byrne didn't look too clever defensively.

Byrne really needs a bit of defensive coaching and hopefully some of the young players will be receiving that and learning - rather than end up becoming demoralised.  The talent is there.

New manager please.

Beating Stevenage playing awesome football didn't make us brilliant. Losing at Shrewsbury without offering much doesn't make us awful.

I'd agree with those who would like to see a decision made on the manager one way or the other soon - just to put that issue to bed. Also don't think it will make a hige difference given the way we (seem to be) approaching things this season.

Think the squad is decent, if Ranger and New Striker can offer us a more target man presence that should pay dividends once they are more settled in the side.

We'll be inconsistent but that's hardly new, even in the first half of last season.

Well said LR. Was always likely going to be an inconsistent start. The true measure of where we are at will come in October/November onwards. Hopefully we not in a relegation situation as heaping that much pressure on a young squad is a big ask.

Do people who have been to the games think we still need more experience? Reading Sam's match report it sounded like after we went a goal behind we were an absolute shambles and lucky to go in at half time only 1 down.

Do we need a few more older heads to help Ward?

Does the chap who had the pie hit in his face post on here? The best part of the day Saturday.

Also, the mongs stewards at Shrewsbury told a women to stop taking pictures, it was just a basic camera. bellends.

Haha, that or the guy who fell over trying to get the ball.

Shrewsbury fan here. Not gloating like that other knob earlier, as I know we’ll probably get turned over at your place, and lots of other places too, no doubt. But some of what I’ve read on here deserves an alternative view.

Graham Turner’s been in football management for more years than most STFC (of both locations) fans have got brain cells, so he is well used to the better players of his clubs being “tapped up” and lured away by larger pay cheques. It’s a simple fact of mercenary life. So why did he (and Shrewsbury) get so Panesar’d off when it happened to James Collins?

1) Collins was lured away by money which Swindon couldn’t afford.
2) Swindon then found an implausible excuse to delay the transfer fee tribunal until after the transfer window was closed. Therefore Turner, working within a realistic budget, did not know how much money he had available to get Collins’ replacement. Result? No replacement.
3) To compound matters, Swindon then didn’t (couldn’t) pay the transfer fee for several months.

In similar circumstances, Swindon fans would have been screaming about anal rape, and PdC would have burst several blood vessels. “Old Man River” was extremely restrained by comparison.

Turner (“the senile tosser”) deserves more respect than the ageist drivel posted early in this thread.

We had the money when we bought him, then the owner fucked off. Deal with it bitch.

Screaming anal rape? You've read more of our forum that you'd care to admit, haven't you :D

Yeah and the stuff about ageist drivel...

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(but congratulations on taking the moral high ground over a football transfer)

One other thing.

We don't hate being called Welsh. We all have a fair percentage of Welsh blood in us (it's inevitable so close to the border), and enables us to support both national teams if we're so inclined. Quite useful when it comes to Rugby Union!

If we don't find the Welsh jibe particularly funny, it's because we've heard it several thousand times over several decades. It's about as original as the "Taming of the Shrews" headline...

Quiet Reg, suck on that Worther's Original and watch Emmerdale while the young run things.

Football fans are the same everywhere.

Deluded? Certainly.

Carried away after a couple of wines? Always.

Ready to contemplate the Apocalypse after a couple of defeats? O yes.

We aren't the first club to buy one of your players are we? We had the money then and I'm assuming have paid you for him. I still don't really see the problem. Yes we were spending more than most but we had an owner who could finance it.

The senile tosser comments aimed at Turner have mainly come about as a result of his bitterness towards us when we beat you at our place a couple of years ago. Yes we should have had a player sent off but the bloody foul was outside the box.

"The senile tosser comments aimed at Turner have mainly come about as a result of his bitterness towards us when we beat you at our place a couple of years ago. Yes we should have had a player sent off but the bloody foul was outside the box."

And PdC wouldn't have reacted in the same way? Or any manager?

  
:yawn: :zzz:

Soon be bed time...

"We aren't the first club to buy one of your players are we?"

Read my original post again.

No, PDC would have scheduled extra training sessions for 3am Monday morning, demanded the signings of eight new loan players and sacrificed a cow to Cthul'hu, all in one answer, running to approximately 8 minutes.

This thread needs to be folded up, sealed in a time capsule marked 'do not open' and fired into outer space never to rear its ugly head again.

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We're the baddies aren't we? We're going to put skulls on our shirtsleeves next season, I'm sure of it.

I tried. I'm with you though Sonic.

did cooper throw his toys out of the pram and say that if we don't get promoted this season it will be because the ref didn't send asante off, talk to him even, for the extremely reckless 2 footed challenge on foderingham's face?  of course he didn't.

I think we won.

Like a full bodied Barolo or a robust Amarone?

Think you mean Opera Fans.

Perhaps you were confused by the Town End's "la donna e mobile" renditions on that fateful visit to the County Ground?

mmm, barolo... i'm mostly partial to 'new world' shiraz and malbec.

Chateau Neuf de pape is where it's at!

don't like french wine.  shopping for wines made out of france in french supermarkets is a shit, 2 or 3 aisles of french wine and about 2 meters of shelf space for the rest of the world.  grr 

I'm with paolo69. Jaipur is nectar.

Genius. :D

Fred Elliot will agree. He tells me it's quite expensive though.

"No, PDC would have scheduled extra training sessions for 3am Monday morning, demanded the signings of eight new loan players and sacrificed a cow to Cthul'hu, all in one answer, running to approximately 8 minutes."

Genius. Agreed.

"did cooper throw his toys out of the pram and say that if we don't get promoted this season it will be because the ref didn't send asante off, talk to him even, for the extremely reckless 2 footed challenge on foderingham's face?  of course he didn't."

If it had been near the end of a season and promotion was riding on it and Swindon were winning at the time and went on to lose it, Cooper may well have done. You don't know.

so you agree it should have been at least a card?

If we're doing favorite wines, then Shiraz if buying in the supermarket. Refosco if out with the wife.

Aldi do a superb Rioja.

"so you agree it should have been at least a card?"

A different debate. But I did wince when I saw it!

 Many years ago I pitched up in Shrewsbury after a weekend's camping around Wenlock Edge...it was a Sunday evening, so back then pubs didn't open til 7:00...but a wine bar seemed to be open so needs must...I'd never been in a wine bar before...I've never been in one since.

I like you Reg. If only because you carry Zappa & Beefheart with you!

When we got Collins we had the money to pay for him.

I would suggest the transfer tribunals we had at the time for both Collins and Archibald Wotsit put us in the shit much more than you lot. We were stuck in a transfer embargo because of it right at the time we were in a great position last season.

Inside out the area or inside the area? To send off or not to send off?

Those were decisions for the ref - nothing to do with our club.

And lastly - who gives a fuck any more

If anyone goes camping anywhere near my Wenlock Edge they will get booted...hard.

"Who gives a fuck anymore?" Clearly some people, on both sides.

My intention was only to point out that your vitriol against Turner is unnecessarily excessive, just as (a few) Salop fans dislike of Swindon is.

Turner is the best manager we've ever had (not too much opposition, I admit), and I believe is a decent bloke.

Anyway. I wish you guys all the best for the rest of the season. I mean that. I know a couple of Swindonians, and they're roight nice.

Oh. And I wanted to stretch this thread to 22 pages... ;)

you should have posted that 7 seconds earlier

Is camper booting an Olympic sport at the Much Wenlock Games?

It is a little pricy, more of a treat wine. In Luxembourg it's 13 euro a bottle in petrol stations, probably cheaper in a supermarket.

wine is bourgeois piss-drink beer.

Fond memories of Shrewsbury. Me and a mate were bored on a Thursday night and stuck a pin blindfold into a uk map, and said we'd go on the lash wherever it landed for the weekend. Shrewsbury was the lucky recipient for our liquid Olympics. Must have been good as don't remember a thing about it, bar the hangover on the train back.