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The opponent: Brentford

One of the consequences of 3 games in 7 days is having 3 extra large portions of my ramblings, for this I apologise unreservedly. Post  Yeovil, this season is really starting to feel like last season, something mentioned by a few regular TEF contributors over the last few days and the stats speak for themselves really. This is how we are looking after 18 games, this season and last.
2011/2012 - Played 18, Won 9, Drawn 3, Lost 6, For 28, Against 16, Points 30
2012/2013 - Played 18, Won 9, Drawn 5, Lost 4, For 29, Against 14, Points 32

So its another Tuesday night under the lights at home, and making the fairly short journey along the M4 is Uwe Rosler’s Brentford. I have to admit, Brentford still remains one of my favourite away days, a proper old style ground, stinking toilets and a poxy hatch in the wall for the pre match Bovril. Not many people know that the floodlights at Griffin Park were donated by Chelsea, and in turn, Chelsea reserves play at Griffin Park. Brentford FC (you can see why they changed the name from Breguntford) were formed by Brentford Rowing Club back in 1889 looking for a winter sport to participate in, as The Thames would often freeze up over the winter. One thing that is likely to have pissed a few Bees fans off back in the 60’s was an attempted takeover by local rivals Queens Park Rangers when Brentford ran in to severe financial difficulties, the takeover was narrowly averted when they managed to secure a loan of £104’000, and QPR were sent packing. If Bee’s fans had their way, both teams will be meeting in The Championship next season, along with us, of course.

Brentford itself has quite an impressive selection of business that chooses to have its headquarters there. GlaxoSmithKline, Carillion, Audi, Kraft Foods, Sega Europe, the list goes on. Perhaps this is why During the English Civil War, Brentford was fought over by The Royalists and The Parliamentarians, even Julius Caeser kicked off in Brentford back in 54BC, having a right Roman ruck with local king, Cassivellaunus. But perhaps the finest piece of history they have to offer is Brentford Docks, built by Isambard Kingdom Brunel, with a rail line linking the docks to the Great Western Railways. *It is rumoured Brunel buried a Paolos Red and White Army Wembley T-shirt and a signed David Duke pair of Predator boots somewhere near Brentford Docks. *Complete lies

Brentford have a high calibre of supporters, Hollywood A-Listers, Cameron Diaz and Jim Carrey,(I have no idea why), Who guitarist, Pete Townshend, Comedian, Dominic Holland, former BBC Director General , Greg Dyke (who is also Chairman of the club), and my personal favourite, facially challenged Z-lister, Dean Gaffney aka Eastenders Robbie Jackson!  Another comedian/actor, Bradley Walsh was also a professional for the club back in the 70’s, and it was rumoured that blubbering Celtic fan Rod Stewart once had trials for them back in 1961, but it was not plain sailing and he was not offered a contract with the Bees. When questioned about this years later, he said, “I don’t wanna, talk about it”.

What are they saying about us? –   “Just hope we don't show them too much respect. Clearly they're a good side but only a few weeks ago they lost at home to Macclesfield in the FA cup. Let's be positive and believe we can go there and win”

http://www.griffinpark.org/forums/showthread.php?t=102363

Brentford Last 6 – LWDLWD (9th on 29 points)

The Threat – Clayton Donaldson has hit the back of the net 8 times so far this season and has a career average of a shade better than 1 in 3. He can be a bit of a handful but if Ward and Devera keep up the form from the Yeovil match they should be able to keep him quiet. Believe it or not, our former captain has managed to score 4 times for them so far this season!

A Warm Welcome Too -  A few people have probably been looking forward to this game, the return of midfield maestro Toumani Diagouraga really will have whet the appetite for some. Also returning is that Jonathan Douglas bloke, couldn’t give a poop about the underperforming gypsy and there is a certain irony in the fact he left us to better himself. One man trying to change the fortunes of The Bees is all round nice guy Mark Devlin, who is the current Chief Executive at the club. Anyone that could tolerate Diamandis for the length of time Mr Devlin did will always be ok with me.

The irrelevant stats – Brentford have the current best home form but away are another matter. It looks like they set themselves up for a draw away from home, as they have only won 1 game, drawn 6, and lost 2. In that time they have scored 9 goals and conceded 10. One thing we may want to look out for is between the 85th and 90th minute, Brentford have scored 6 goals this season.

Head to Head – We have met Brentford in the league on 74 occasions and we slightly have the upper hand having Won 31, Drawn 18 and Lost 25.

The Odds –   Swindon 10/11    draw 12/5    Brentford    3/1 (Bet 365)  First goal scorer odds may be worth a look if you fancy James Collins to carry on where he left off on Saturday, you can currently get 5/1 or if you think Darren Ward could open the scoring with a towering header then 33/1 seems to be the going rate. For those wanting to back the inevitable (more often than not), Douglas is a poor 12/1 with William Hill but back to Bet365 and you can get a rather large 28/1.

Sid Says – With minimal encouragement, the normally pessimistic one has predicted a 2-0 home victory.

The Prediction – A winnable game, no doubt about it. Brentford set themselves up away from home not to be beat. They play a bit of football but if we put them under enough pressure then we will win this 3-0, with goals from Ritchie, Collins and Ferry, who subsequently runs past Douglas kissing the Town badge in from of 7’821 (493 away)

And Finally – The first drawing of the moon made with a telescope, and the first telescopic observations of sunspots, were made at Syon House in Brentford. Thomas Harriot , who had surveyed Virginia with Walter Raleigh, obtained one of the early ‘Dutch trunk’ telescopes and set about making astronomical observations with it, seemingly before Galileo. He was at the time in the pay of the Earl of Northumberland, and lived at the latter’s Syon House by the Thames.

COYR COYR COYR

Harder than Saturday but we'll still win to cement our newly found home form.

2-0, Martin & Ritchie.

Thanks for the opener Rosso, interesting stuff. Looking forward to another game under lights and I'm going for 2-0 with Collins and Martin goals.

2-1, Collins and Martin, Douglas for Brentford

I am working, yet again, but a mate is taking one of my lads.

2-1 to us, with Douglas to score for Brentford.

Four seconds after midnight. Good work sir!

A horrible, nervy 1-0 win for the Town.

I think we'll do this 2-0, goals from Martin and Collins in front of 8138 (336 from Brentford)

I plan to watch us win and have fun doing it.

Great intro.  Sets the day up nicely.  Come on Town!

L

Town 2-1 Brentford (Martin 67, Douglas OG 90 + 7)

2-0 Williams Martin, Ritchie

I hope douglas gets loads of shit tonight.

The cunt.

2-1 to us. Collins and Roberts to hit some form.

This is all well and good Shaw Rosso, but have you thought what you're going to write when we play these teams for the second time this season?

He will.  And then he'll score.  It's the way.

Copy, Paste.

Not that I wish ill on anyone but I hope Douglas get hurt tonight in one way or another. Out of the season that shall not be mentioned he was the worse in my eyes with his spineless attitude on and off the pitch.

2-1 with Collins and Devera scoring.

0-0. They'll play one up front.

1-1

I would think Gary Roberts would volunteer...

I've got a good feeling about this.  2-1 Swindon COYR

With a forearm smash ;)

Taking my father in law who is a Bees Fan. He hasn't seen a bees win for years so I how that does not change tonight .
2 -  0

Another great start to the matchday thread.We will have to be patient tonight as i think they will park the proverbial bus and try and hit us with a set piece goal.2-0 with late goals from Rafa and Rooney  COYR

Bit OTT - but it was pretty criminal he gave up when the going got tough. What makes it worse that he is a good player .

We're in take-off mode - simple 2-0 win

8458 with 788 from Brentford

I feel it's going to be a tough game. 1-0 Douglas OG would be perfect but so long as we win i will have the bragging rights at work tomorrow and be £20 richer  ;D

People are confident. We will lose.

Was Uwe Rosler not linked with the managerial role here before Paolo got the job?

We know we'll make chances, depends if we can take them. They seem to be a steady side, but 1 win in 9 away games  is poor. Probably will be a draw though, 1-1. Unless douglas gets sent off on a nice wet pitch, then 3-1 to us.

I really don't understand the resentment of Douglas. Fair enough, he played badly in a poor team for a season before he buggered off. But isn't there the possibility that he became disillusioned by a club selling its best players and going down without a fight? I can't say I blame him for his bad performances or for moving on. Good luck to him.

That being said, I hope we smash them tonight. 3-0 Town.

Yep and visa versa, Brentford were the only other club looking at Paolo.

Whenever we play the Bees I’m reminded of their legendary goalkeeper from the late 50s / early 60s, Gerry Cakebread, surely one of the finest footballer names ever. Played 374 games for them. Not bad when you consider he was always a part-timer.

That’s official part-timer, unlike JD who played like he was one during ‘that’ season.

  I agree with you, even though he wasnt as good as the season before, he was still by far our best player.

Douglas was the captain of a load of bottling twats - has any other side ever gone down the season after playing in the playoff final?

He deserves all the shit he gets tonight in my book.

 :smugfu:

He's saying in the adver interview that the club didn't offer him a new deal and he didn't have a choice about leaving.

Exactly the opposite of the story of when he signed for Brentford.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/13975150

So a bullshitting bottler to boot, BOOO! ;)

What a lying cunt.

Yeah and a statement here to confirm he is a bottler....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/13942620



http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/news/9109357.Douglas_to_join_Brentford/

Player in not wanting to play league 2 football when given the chance of playing league 1 football shock.

Oh I don't blame him at all for that but he should not say he wasn't offered a new contract when apparently he was but chose against signing it.

The club wanted to renegotiate a new deal after he and the other load of shit cunts took us down that then subsequently fucked off. He was captain and meant to be the protagonist (in PDC's words) but had a big yellow streak up his back at the end of that season and bottled it that season and for the next one also.

He showed fuck all loyalty to the club that had paid him well (it's football blah blah blah). He phoned Wray during negotiations and said Brentford had offered him a contract and then fucked off.

Nothing to do with money (according to Wray) or closer to home (he lives in the Cotswolds) simply that he wanted to play in league one. The division that he worked so, so hard to keep us out of the season we went down.

Subsequently on twitter he took the piss out of us playing Macclesfield in League Two so fuck him.

Fear not, I have so much trivia and stats for each of our opponents I think I can do 4 games a season. I struggle to fit it all in and what doesn't get used is stored away for another day :)

I'm also in the camp of not feeling these great levels of resentment towards Douglas. He was crap (along with the rest of the team) in our mismanaged relegation season, but has everyone really forgotten what a good player he was at this level before that? How dominant he was in the big games (against Leeds/ Southampton etc.)? I bet you it's that Douglas that turns up today, and shuts a few of us up.

And while I'm up here on my soapbox, I don't understand why football fans are always so desperate to remember only the worst aspects of a clubs recent history through the conduit of ex-players and managers instead of the best (as evidenced recently in the outpourings of negativity towards Austin/ Wilson and now Douglas, with whom we shared one of the best seasons in recent history). Isn't being a lower league supporter miserable enough most of the time without foregrounding the inglorious failures of our recent past rather than than using these peoples return to remember our successes?

Anyway, I'm expecting a game in which Brentford dominate central midfield (in the way we used to in our play-off season but have never quite done since Douglas left  ;) ) but for us to create more chances, with the result depending on whether it's one of those games where we take those chances, or one of those games where we don't (one from the Andy Townsend school of analysis, but you really do never know which Swindon is going to turn up in front of goal).

Most people would have done the same in his position and taken the opportunity to stay in league 1.  I’ll chose to not put the blinkers on and block out the previous season to that and remember that he had one excellent season and one average season that seemed crap but he was dragged down by the shit around him.

I’ll be interested in what a definition of the term “Bottler” actually is when it relates to the accusation thrown at Douglas, he certainly wasn’t going into games giving 50%.

If I was being mischievous, i'd suggest that so many of our fanbase have very little going on in their lives, so reserve such vitriol for these players to give themselves a break from the mundane and a sense of purpose.

Oh, no he di'int!

I comment on the good and the bad. I didn't give any shit to Wilson or Austin but when players like Douglas leave the club he's just help relegate with his dire, pathetic perfomances then takes the piss on Twitter it kind of leaves a bitter taste in the mouth.

I remember the good days of Wilson et al with fondness but that's not to say I should therefore use those memories to cover up the shite players and managers we've had.

And if IIRC, Douglas 'taking the piss' was as a response to town fans giving him 'banter' (eurgh).

If you can't take it, don't give it.

Fair enough JJ,

But would people on here have felt the same 'vitriol' if he had come out and said that?

It seems to be that there are some people who just seem to think it unacceptable that players might actually want to leave STFC.

And wishing injury on him? I personally think thats way OTT, but each to their own.

I kind of have to agree to what Dave says in some ways!

So someone should chuck a bottle at him and see if he is, indeed, a bottler.

Just hope one of our players doesn't see fit to give him a 'Beauchump' type welcome and get given a red.

3 points for the taking

As for wondering what Swindon (in front of goal) will turn up - well we have scored 10 goals in the last 4 league games.

None too shabby

I think we need DMR to liven up proceedings here!

Fuck Douglas

While I would not wish an injury on anybody I couldn't give a flying one if he gets stick. In fact, I hope that Tans throws a burger at him.

3 points for STFC is far more important than any player, especially a player that no longer plays for us.

If we play our own game then its gonna be a long night for Brentford. 4-0/1

I don't think him moving to Brentford was why our fans are pissed off at him but because he said throughout that summer that he wanted to stay with us and then left at the first opportunity.

He was part of our most successful season in 10 years then our worst season in 10 years the year after.

I won't boo him or cheer him, time has moved on, exciting times for us. Who gives a shit.

I do, but then my life is mundane without purpose.

Jumping Jack Christ if I said this I'd get dogs abuse. Football fans, as a rule, are a bunch of sadcases.

That said I do hope JD get's a bit of grief.

I wouldn't want Douglas to get injured against us thats just pathetic but all I do want is that he doesn't play one of his better games against us and has a quiet game and we win.

He has moved on now and so have we. For the record I do think he could pretty much walk into our first team this season its just a shame that HE decided to leave us and not stick around because with hindsight he didn't have a great season with Brentford last year (yes he got player of the season but Brentford struggled so he would have done better to have stayed with us and had some success and a League winners medal and a trip to Wembley instead).

I wonder if we'll start Hollands today, I can't see Bostock or Ferry sticking close to Douglas.

Fuck me - he aint Paul Scholes.

He's an average lower league midefield player with a just above average League 1 club.

Just dont anyone buy any lucky heather from him

Everything goes through Douglas and so far this year we don't do well against a decent midfield, he might be lower league but he's still a decent player.

How about pegs?

Isn't Hollands more of an attacking midfielder than a hard tackler/marker?

I think Ferry and Bostock are the perfect answer to Dougie. He sits deep and offers protection. The passing and runs of those two, would give Dougie nightmares and give us lots of room in my opinion.

I wish him no ill, but I think he had an above average season with us and he showed his colours by not being up for the fight. Wilson was to blame by playing the completely useless PruttyPruttyPruttPrutts over Ferry.

Think I read from Charlton fans he can play both roles.

Oh, I thought he was a Smith type midfielder.

Well, pegs are useful. Especially if some fat fucker in front of you who's had 6 pints of 3Bs and a curry before going to the game spends 90 mins guffing.

I fancy Ferry to get one tonight. He got in some good positions on Saturday.

You could be right there.

Ferry has obviously been told to attack the box a lot more as in recent games he's had more shots (including the air shot v Sheffield) in the past few games than the whole of last season.

Very good in the cross channel

Well done Rosso for another good intro to the Matchday Thread.

I've had my prediction success for this season vs. Yeovil, so I'll stick my neck out again and go for a resounding 4-1 win again.

The forum is a bit busy today. None of you fuckers got any work to do?

They are hard to beat away from home so expect it to be quiet tight, 2-1 win for us hopefully.

Draw wouldn't be the worst result in the world

Ferry's off the ball runs against Yeovil (especially into the box) were absolutely outstanding.

Who'd of thought a few weeks ago we'd see a partnership of Ferry and Bostock in which Ferry was the attacking one and Bostock the defensive one! Both players transformed under the current regime.

Expect Chris Martin's gut to be busted by the end of December.

Douglas was a decent player who, like others in the team that year, performed well above his normal ability in his first season. I don't have any particular animosity towards him.

On the same note of former Town players at Brentford, Diagouraga has carved out a pretty decent career for himself - I remember him being somewhat awkward and ineffective when he was on loan with us.

Shame we didn't end up with Rosler. In his first pre-season at Brentford they 'toured' the town where I now live  ;)

Dougie had a good first season culminating in the play off final.

He, like a few others then had a shit season during which he seemd to get more and more "Am I bovvered?" whereas the liks of Mtt Ritchie and Simon Ferry (when they were played) put in a full shift and then some to try and drag us out of it.

Dougie then fucked off so that he didn't have to suffer the fruits of his labours whereas Matt and Si stuck with us and did the business.

Hopefully this wind and rain will clear by early evening. I've just done my hair.

Welcome back Dougie

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the only shifts tap boi put in that season must have been at mcdonalds

Yeah you could have hosted a TEF on tour :D

I hope JD gets stick throughout the match if only to try and put him off his game. He was good for us in the the almost glory season and he is a good player and We could certainly use him in our current side.

We still don't know the truth of the doomed season and why a great bunch of players (on paper) royally fucked it up.

4-0 Swindon tonight COYR

They aren't a bad side and think we will miss Williams pace up front. 2-1 defeat.

Pah!

I'm always pessimistic...

2-0......Martin & Roberts

1-0 Roberts in front of 8018, 367 from Brentford

Apparently we're 5/6 to win tonight. I guess our recent home form is driving that. I think tonight will be a draw personally, Martin to get his 1st in a 1-1

We will be to much for them, Ferry to run circles around Douglas in midfield, 3-1 Collins Storey Ritchie. 8257

2-2 douglas to open scoreing collins and martin for us.7256

2-0 Collins brace, 7,869 (312 Brentford). Great write up as well.

Have come up for this one. If we don't lose or draw we may win.

1-0 with Ferry grabbing another goal. About 7500 braving the crappy weather

I hate Brentford. Remember complaining about having to pay £5 to go in the away end at Brentford in the 80s. Saw a shit game where we conceded and then dominated  but couldnt score - Until Brian Wade came on a nicked an equaliser in the last few mins.

I hate the waiting for the team sheet.

Foderingham; Thompson N, Devera, Ward, McEveley; Ritchie, Ferry(capt), Hollands, Roberts; Collins, Martin

Town: Foderingham; Thompson N, Devera, Ward, McEveley; Ritchie, Ferry(capt), Hollands, Roberts; Collins, Martin

Substitutes: Bedwell(GK), Archibald-Henville, Bostock, De Vita, McCormack, Rooney A, Storey

Subs: Bedwell(GK), Archibald-Henville, Bostock, De Vita, McCormack, Rooney A, Storey

2 seconds! Stick that in your pipe PV ;)

Dont talk to me about sticking things in my pipe today Sam :D

I have to admit that 2 seconds is pretty good, if I haden't sneezed as I pressed the post I would have got there first!

Dissapointing to see Bostock left out. Must be the first time Alan Mc has been left out when fully fit as well.

Reckon that must have been 86/87 season. They had the half man/half mountain Micky Droy playing for them at CB and he nearly ripped Jimmy Quinn's shirt off his back.

I though Hollands may start but Bostock hasn't done anything wrong at all. It's just rotation I guess.

God I had forgot about Mickey Droy, one of the least talented nastiest centre backs ever, made Iain Dowie look handome.

anyone else remember when rotation was a sin and Benitez was criticised for being a tinker man?

Remember away at Brentford - down to 9 men with 2 sent off.

0-0 and Chalkie oh so nearly won it

Only time I went to Brentford, the away end was full so they started putting us in with the home fans and telling them all to budge up to make space for us. Then they threatened to through us out for not sitting in the right seats, despite them being the ones we were told to sit in. Highlight of the game was a pitch brawl with pretty much every player involved. Must have been in the 90's sometime.

I seem to remember Bodin being right through shortly before the end but his shot just cleared the bar. Chalkie and Mitchell sent off I think...

You could well be right.

Memory isn't what it was?

That and the London Pride before the game

"2nd biggest budget in the division"

I didn't know that, I would've guessed more like 5th highest.

Does anyone know if the game is on the radio for those living in the smoke?

I was mascot at that 0-0, two sendings off game. Not sure if I was lucky or not.

Alan Mc has only just come back. 2 games in 4 days too much at this stage of his recovery.

Pretty sure, when match fit, he plays.

Player is already cutting out pretty much constantly like a fucker.

Mine is bad today too.

not too bad for me tonight

Mine seems pretty good for once.

Come on Town!!!

Who are the commentators for Swindon?

C'mon Town.

Alan Mac said 4 returning Town players in the Brentford squad.Who are the other 2 beside Duggie and diagouragagagaga?

Chris Wise and Alan Macloughlin


fuck knows. he must be pissed.

Spot on Munich, Kerryred's turning into a senile old bastard, it was Zippy who drove his shot just over late on. Brilliant game though, town fans were brilliant.

Turning?

Thanks

Pox losing at Barnet :clap:

Rovers losing at Vale. Pox lev elled.

Sounding like a decent atmosphere

did jake hyde play for us once?

It's live on Radio London 94.9, good reception online. Their commentators are talking a lot about Paolo's gesticulations!

I'm sure I read a match report in one of the Sunday papers the following day written by Neil Kinnock, who was/is a Brentford fan.  Either that or I'm also going senile and have completely made that up.

How come the BBC Radio London signal doesn't get scrambled like BBC Radio Wiltshire?

Thanks for the tip off.

How the fuck did we score 4 in Saturday? This is shocking

Sat in a hotel in Istanbul.  Keep me updated because Player is not working for me here for some reason.

That's great. Here's the link to online commentary

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p010gr8t

Player is hardly working for me here in Plymouth, don't worry.

"We are the better side but no one is creating chances for either side."

"The Bees are the better side so far tonight."

two very different opinions from Twitter, so make of that what you will

Shot palmed away from Martin

Lots of corners from us.  But the Brentford commentators saying we're making a real hash of them.

Went close then.

Clearance off the line by Brentford, possible hand ball

It's gonna be one of those nights

To repeat, online coverage here

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p010gr8t

Probably forgot to switch it off

I have come to expect your posts to include a funny gif!

Sort it aaaat! ;-)

Shot from Collins turned away for corner

getting some chances now boys!

Brentford's strategy, in picture form.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2b/WrightBus_LT2.JPG/360px-WrightBus_LT2.JPG

Excellent, cheers to both of you.

Doesn't work for me, probably because I am outside the UK.  Either that or the hotal internet is shite!

it won't work if you're outside of the UK.

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Fairly sure the BBC links don't work overseas, sorry Berni, you're out of luck!

We're down to 5th ! :-(

That's better, all is good in the world now.

Apart from being stuck in Istanbul where there are far too many ManU fans atm.

S'all good, I have Sky Score centre, ManU on the TV and the TEF! Sounds like I am better off giving this one a miss on the radio anyway.

Fairly even, on top when half time whistle came. Good knows how that chance didn't go in.

The London Radio commentary working fine here in Denmark  :)

Here in Munich too, although I do have a proxy... ;D

stfcplayer has just died on it's arse here in norweegieland, must be cursed

This Brentford commentator reminds me of David Brent

'...although you do have to wonder whether all the touchline antics really work.'

Third in the table 3 months after coming up says maybe they do, you dick.

I remember Brentford's centre backs running about like headless chickens in the second half, after Chalkie and Mitchell failed to re-appear, and lots of big plod obscuring the view too.

You beat me to that comment about touch line antics..! Nope... they definately aren't working, are they?

Sheff utd 2-3 Crewe

He said earlier in the game "You'd expect them to be pushing up the table. It hasn't really happened for them yet"

Sheff U getting done at home after being 2 nil up.

2 nil and you fucked it up

 :doh:

Sounds like it's all us at the moment.

Also fine here in central Russia. Of course, I did click on "Listen" ...  

Galatasary are absolutely battering ManU.  Good stuuf.

ManU just gone 1 down

So did I smart arse, but it just sits on Loading.  Think it is the small bandwidth at this hotel.

Leon scores again.  Sheff U back to 3-3

I hate this bloke. Want to punch him.

He just said "Swindon have a free kick in a V dangerous position". He actually said 'V' instead of 'very'. WHAT A CUNT

I think the commentator just said that we had two blanks recently, a draw and a defeat and have scored six in the last two but that's all we've scored in six (games)!!!

Fuck.

1-0

Shitsticks

bollocks

0-1

from the BBC live football thingy

"At third place Swindon, Angelo Balanta has put Franchise ahead with a 45th minute strike."

oh bugger

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I wish Alan Mac would stop praising the opposition every chance he gets!

ooops-fuckup by Thompson

Feck! We're losing to two teams on the same night? PDC OUT!

Ferry off; Bostock on.

That's my fucking lawnmower! Cunt!

Not one home team winning at the moment, come on Town . . .

Pox in the lead

Listening to the Brentford commentary.

I try to switch back but every time I'm up every time I do I'm against a wall of negativity from A Mac. I;d rather listen to David Brent

and? that is a result that means what to us?

We really look clueless here.

Summed up by that Hollands cross :no:

All the teams around us doing crap as well.  Could be a chance wasted here

No other result means fuck all to us, but the beauty about a forum is that I can post (pretty much) what I like.

There is an ignore button under my name, I suggest you use it, Dougal!

Rooney coming on  Roberts off

MK Plastics losing now  ;D

leelstromm and molday?

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How do you know he's not Dillon, Zebedee, Brian etc etc ?

oooh a keyboard warrior. get you  :huglove:

Because he's ginger!

Cmon Town! I'm getting bored and pissed off now!

2 goals pronto!

I'm with you Berniman

There's a few people that are too up themselves to get involved in all that rivalry stuff

But I despise the very existence of the shower of shit from down the road

His posts make him sound like a Dougal IMO.  Though you might be right with the Brian, a good forum police name that!

Careful....

Alan Mac sounding pretty anti-Swindon today...

he gets on my nerves.

Just saying, if I need my mum, I'll give her a call, alright?

no need. i'll tell her for you ;)

I have noticed that a bit in his recent performances

I've given up with him, he's such a negative cunt.

You crack on, if OAP's are what do it for you fella go fill your boots.

Interesting to see what D I CANIO says after the game

Please tell me NMH is still here, and intends to do his duty?

I'm not going to do it unless someone goes and has a lucky beer, lucky shit, lucky fag etc which results in us at least equalising!

Barnet 2-2 Pox :D

McEverley MOM because he hasn't touched the ball much! Christ!

I am having a lucky spat with Dougal.

Oh shit,  now you've done it!

Coldplay misses glorious chance

Jake Hyde good lad!

Martin free header!noooooooooooo!

Ooooh! Nearly! Martin missed an opportunity. First one I've heard tonight!!

BBC interviewer needs to ask PDC why we are playing this long ball direct crap!

5 mins et

What the fuck is wrong with us at home this season?

Corner

are you trying to be funny?

Over the bar

Now now girls

Down to 6th :'(

Consistency, we are either shit hot or shit.

Shit = Hoof ball, Shit hot = ball on the ground.

Always!

...failing

Save by keeper

FT 0-1

FT

oh

Are we shit again?

seems so flash

Evidently Paolo still has to work out how to play teams who come for a point and end up taking all 3.

Ah well.

Maybe, but always trying!

At this rate it'll be 10 pints pre-match against Notts County. We sounded dire.

Consistently fucking inconsistent then . . .

Does this mean another session of meltdown mania?

awww bless ya

Alan Mac "There's a lot of positives"

Then proceeds to praise Brentford some more, and mention some negatives. ???

We reflect PDC in our moods dont we.  We're going to win the league, no were going to struggle to stay in the league. 

Tonight's result was the natural conclusion of a chain of events started by Douglas bottling it in 2010/11.

PDC is going to go fucking skitso I think.

It's not just us who seem to struggle at home.

Appears to be an epidemic of away wins every week in all leagues

Luckily the other results seem to have gone alright for us so we've only dropped a point on most rivals at the top.

Amazing how well we're doing despite very rocky home results. Bring on 3 points at Notts County and all will be sweet.

bollocks to it, i'm off until it all blows over

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Have you all left me here alone?

They were a better more organised side than us.

we're all in The Winchester with sonic

Has the grumpy bastard spoke yet?

I know!  You enjoy your night with my mum!

No

on now

Haha

Yeah Alan Mac has been speaking all game :)

Who, ironically, have a better away record than home record.

Paolo, doesnt sound incandescent with rage.  Ive no idea what he's saying but he seems to be saying it relatively calmly.

He's pretty much saying that we've got too many naive players for League 1 whereas a lot of opponents have grizzled journeymen who can grind out results at this level. Although I'm sure NMH will put me right.

He's gone to town on 1 player saying he's very disappointed with him and will look to replace with a loan. My money's on Roberts.

PDC interview sounding down:
(Missed some as it cut out)
- Sad for Thompson. It was one mistake and they scored
- He gave his best but all the players didnt do the same
(Missed some as it cut out)
- Need to show desire and ambition
- We had an opportunity to remain close to the top....
(Missed some as it cut out)
- Going to analyse the game but it was clear that some players...
(Missed some as it cut out)
- Didnt lack creativity tonight. Created chances
- Not happy as we didnt perform in the way we could
- It was a difficult game as they came to defend. They then capitalised on 1 chance
(Missed some as it cut out)
- We can play attacking football but if we dont score we seem to lose confidence
- Brentford is a better team than Yeovil, which is why the result was different
- Even playing like we did we had more chances. But, didnt put them away
(Missed some as it cut out)
- Not easy to change all the players that he wanted to.
(Missed some as it cut out)
- Then something about being unhappy with 3-4 players who had been with him for a couple of years
- Cant improve all of the players, especially those who have been playing in relegation teams rather than bring top players at the top of league 1
- PDC wants the players to toughen up
- Finishing in top 8 would still be a miracle as the majority of players still have a lot to learn
(Missed some as it cut out)
- Talked about physical condition of players coming in. They will improve but are not firing on all cylinders yet
(Missed some as it cut out)
- PDC wont give up
-6 teams have won at County ground because the players heads drop if everything doesnt go right to begin with. Also, teams are coming to get a result rather than rolling over
(Missed some as it cut out)
- Something about a player who was a chihuahua and turning into a rotweiller....
(Missed some as it cut out)


Sorry guys. Best I could do tonight.

Agreed. I've been disappointed with him as well.

Let's hope he's a better loan signing than Hollands (based on tonight's performance)

Lack of creativity and urgency against a team who set up for a point. We seem to seriously struggle against teams who come here, pack the midfield and (inevitably) get the breakaway goal. I didn't feel the performance was as dire as Orient/Col U but compared to Saturday it was bollocks. Brentford well organised side who also knew how to play the game (time wasting, looking for fouls etc) and it just felt like whilst we were chasing the game we wouldn't have scored all night. I have to say Roberts was pathetic and it's time Raffa got a go once again.

Very frustrating and disappointing after Saturday.

There wasn't much between the teams. We missed our chances, they took one of theirs. Then they killed the game expertly, as frustrating as it was fair play to them for that.

While we had a couple of chances, aside from the last 10 minutes of the first half we struggled to break them down like we did against Colchester et al.

Roberts was absolute gash tonight. Needs to find form and fast. Martin and Collins are too similar for my liking, neither have much pace either. Hollands was OK, probably more combative but not got Bostock's touch on the ball.

Not quite sure what happened for the goal. We lost it and it was played forward to their #9, who got between 2 defenders. Not sure I'd blame Thompson specifically, but will no doubt be corrected by a replay.

Aside from a dodgy 10 minutes in the second half McEveley was excellent.

edit: oh and fucking hell Martin, I'd have scored that header :)

Very disappointing tonight. Thought we had turned the corner at home after Saturday but again we struggled to get going. We were actually marginally better in the first half in my opinion but we didn't create too much going forward. There was the 5 minute spell before half time where we turned the screw and at HT I thought we could go on to win it.

But in the 2nd half we lost it. We just seemed to back off and they capitalised in the first 10 minutes and then got the goal. They were very good at the back, they have to get credit for that, and I thought they were better than us in midfield as well. Our final ball was shocking tonight as well which was frustrating. Brentford deserved it in the end.

It's amazing how much better we seem to play when Williams is fit and starts. When he's out we just seem to lack anything decent going forward. He's becoming such a key player for us. I really hope he can stay fit when he comes back.

All in all another poor performance from us at home but on reflection we are still moulding together as a team and one or 2 are still settling into the side. I still think we'll come good and when we do we'll be hard to stop. Much like we were last season.

18 th, Oxford United, Played 19, 21 Points :pint:

Took my second game of the season in tonight. My first was Col U.

For everyone's sake, I don't think I'll go again!

Nnnggghhh... frustrating again. Had a 10 minute spell in the first half which we needed and should/could have scored in, then proceeded to look devoid of ideas for the rest of the game. I think on reflection, a draw was a fair result, but they nicked it with one of their very few clear chances.

Points of note:
 - We got to see a foul throw!
 - Why did it take so long for the ref to book their 'keeper for time wasting when he was happy to book their sub for walking off at a leisurely pace?
 - Gary Roberts is still awful. When his terrible first touch doesn't fail, his second touch (a pass or cross) usually will.
 - Thought Bostock for Hollands looked a better substitution to make at the time, and still do
 - Chris Martin took dogs abuse from a lot of people sat around me - i thought this was harsh. He was our best striker today, and when the ball wasn't hoofed to him, he had some nice touches, created a couple of chances, and got in to good positions. Looks intelligent.
 - Rooney left wing? Massive error, assumed de Vita wasn't on the bench - turns out he was. Should have come on for Roberts.
 - Ward and Devera looked solid again, not sure what happened for the goal.
 - Ritchie largely ineffective again, as were the majority of set pieces

Think that covers it.

Wes and back 4 decent except distribution. Everyone else wank. Martin bar one shot played with his back to goal and created next to nothing. Paolos subs were terrible, Collins looked much more lively than martins. Rooney on for Roberts?! Is he having a laugh! Atleast put storey on the wing or da vita. Pissed off.

Wish we would see more of De Vita. He's been pretty good this season and yet Roberts seems to walk into the side despite being largely average. McCormack is a big miss at the back as well. He just brings the calmness and vocals that others don't.

Nice to see Paolo go all Andy King at the end and chuck Ward upfront. First time i've seen him throw the kitchen sink at it when we we've been behind in the last few minutes.

Oh and wasn't it Rooney that missed that header? Our best chance of the whole game. 

I thought Ritchie was decent. More of a threat than anyone else and swung in a few nice balls (Martins second half header for one).

Roberts was abysmal. Think there's more to come from Hollands when he gets a few games under his belt and Martin looks useful too. We looked solid at the back. Think Brentford just did a number on us. Killed the game well.

Loved it when Paolo ran in the pitch and sliced the ball!

Was it? Could have sworn it was Martin.

In that case, fucking hell Rooney, I would have scored that.

So much for pushing on from Saturday.  Another utterly pathetic home performance, particularly second half.

Yet again far too many aimless long balls.  We were generally disorganised, clueless from corners, clueless from free kicks and clueless from throw ins.  

Stupid time to replace Collins with Storey, we're defending a sodding free kick, players switch off while the sub is made and they subsequently scored as a result.  Should have taken Martin off anyway.

Hollands offered nothing in midfield and not sure why Ferry was replaced instead of him.  Ferry and Bostock played well together on Saturday, why change it?  Replacing Roberts with Rooney was also a complete waste of a sub.

Brentford had no stand out players, but were better organised and closed our players down well.
Nothing particularly positive to take from tonight.  Utter crap.

I thought it was Martin. And so did the bloke behind told that "fucking useless fat cunt" to "fuck off back to Norwich".

Was definitely Martin. Can't mistake that rotund shape!

The atmosphere was poor as well except for a good 5-10 minute spell of We are Paolo's Red and White army 'STFC', I blame us shooting 2nd half towards the Stratton Bank, FFS kick towards the Town End 2nd half if it is us winning the toss and changing ends!

I'm sure he knows what he is doing but aside from mccormack's superb move from midfield
To defence, Paolo's minor insistence on playing people out of position is a bit annoying. Tah at midfield was almost a sick joke and why won't he give rafa more time on the wing? Surely Adam Rooney is wasted there?

Oxford drew with Barnet, and Rovers took a hammering and are a point above the trapdoor to the non league. Plus a lot of teams around us only drew too.

Every cloud.

Wrong subs today without doubt, as Lucien says the Rooney sub was madness De Vita should have come on and for me should start, Roberts is pretty dire at the moment.

Two tight banks of 4 from them and ran the game out very well, we seem not to have a plan B apart from putting a defender up front.

Still in the playoffs so not all bad but Paolo needs to start reading up on tactical play because it's not the first time we've not been able to break down a mediocre opposition.

Re-listened to the bits that I could:

- Basically said that several players let him down. They weren't focussed and didn't perform. We were on top without doing anything special but we didn't put our chances away.
- He praised Thompson and didn't criticise him for the mistake that cost the goal and the game
- Criticised mentality and mental toughness of the team. Some haven't learned how to be resilient while others are showing that they don't have the capacity. If we don't score early their heads drop
- He talked about players who had been relegated and spent a year in the bottom division. They improved a little but are not currently top league one players (Possibly Ferry & Ritchie from context). They need to toughen up and put in more effort. They are good players, but if they can't toughen up, they have no chance of making it at the next level
- The way we lost made him angry. We aren't going to give up, but its obvious that the players at the club need to develop before we can be consistent and successful in this division. Teams come to the County Ground and fight harder for their points than in L2. Opposition players are more experienced and determined.
- Some Swindon players are weak with their desire and ambition. Our tactics are right, but our application isn't always there. We will analyse again and try to highlight areas to the player where they can improve
- Not close to bring someone else in. He does want to bring someone in as he is very disappointed with one player who is showing no commitment, no heart and no desire. He wouldn't elaborate as to who it was, but Wise asked whether it was a winger. PDC said 'You said that'. This seemed to imply that it was Roberts, but it could equally have been Ritchie from the context of the rest of the interview.
 

Should have buried it. Never mind.

Nice one.

Think PDC should start looking at his tactical decisions, before blaming underachieving players.. As someone else said, seems like we're lacking a plan B when things don't go as planned..

Thanks for condensing that down Nomoreheroes, good work

Danny Hollands:
- Apart from their goal they had no chances
- First half we had numerous chances but we faded in 2nd half
- Didn't have any luck. Talked about Chris Martin's chance
- Brentford came with a game plan. Yeovil were open but Brentford parked the bus
- disappointment for the team. Will review the dvd
- Nice to play 90 mins but not happy with result
- Need to improve and win our home games

Was definitely Martin.

That.bloke also called a black brentford player a spearchucker. Fucking twat.

And dont get me started on the cunt a couple of rows behind me, every game its moan moan fucking moan. Top yourself.

I don't agree with this fully if i'm honest. We had numerous occasions where we got the ball out wide and into good positions but the final ball was lacking then finally when we saw a decent delivery the chance went begging. Better execution and decision making from some players tonight could have seen us get on the score sheet. I'd certainly like us to play it on the floor more though but it seems that Paolo is trying to mix it up a bit more this season. It worked very well against Yeovil but not so much tonight.

He talked about that. He said that the tactics are definitely right, but some of the players aren't following instructions. I think he was saying that we half heartedly created chances in the first half but didn't put them away. The players then lost confidence and stopped creating chances full stop.

One reason why we lost tonite, its down to one man, Paolo Di Canio.

Did anyone else feel that our players didn't quite seem to know what they were doing with the fancy set-pieces?

The wide play today was poor as you say but there is far too much long ball in most games, the Sheffield game was the pinnacle of that. What worked well on Saturday was Bostock knocking it wide which was missing today.

Where in Wales are you? I was in Merthyr a few weeks back.

That's a shame mate. I'm in Swansea. Whizzing along the M4 at the minute.

The persistent short corner get on my tits but without Flint we don't have much threat I guess.

Bostock brings the ball down in midfield. We certainly missed that tonight and we improved in that area when he came on.

Very hard to tell based on listening to the game. Despite creating a few chances, we sounded pretty clueless going by the commentary.

In any case, bringing Rooney on for Roberts seems very strange indeed.

Flat atmosphere. Flat performance. The only thing that wasn't flat was Chris Martin's belly.  :pint:

We are dreadful at corners.  Why we never put anyone deep is beyond me.  One of the corners in the first half was a farce.

Yeh, it was a dive, but lovely surrounding area. Had the highest population in Wales around a hundred years ago then the industry went to shite. Brecon is a nice location. Decent boozers.

Maybe I got a bit too influenced by Alan Mac's constant Swindon-negativity  :D

Chipping the ball to the edge of the area from a corner for Ritchie to smash was a little ambitious though!

Used to work in Brecon. Was an utter shit to get there, especially in the winter. Pretty though.

Yeh, good craic in the Sarah Siddons  :pint: Only stayed in Merthyr because I found a £20 a night hotel. Walked up Pen-Y-Fan. Decent weekend away. Off to Nottingham on Saturday, you going, we could have a few pints?

And you don't even have the Mumbles Mile to drown your sorrows in anymore

Tactically inept performance with no-one coming out of the game with any real credit. I am now getting at a loss as to understanding how our performances at home being so good one game and the total opposite the next.

Once again a not very good Brentford side did a job on us as per the other teams that we have dropped points to, and it is a concern to me that we do not have enough nous to change things around when it happens.

Concerned also that Roberts and Ritchie have both gone backwards, Roberts knowing he will be subbed at the first mistake (as will Collins) and I am certain that it is no confidence booster as can be seen by the body language when pulled off.

Seemed to have got away with it result wise tonight but not a happy bunny at all!

We massively missed Williams tonight. When we play it long he's the only one with enough pace to get on the end of them. As others have said, Martin and Collins are too similar and quite slow. The only way we can win without Williams is to play the ball out to the wingers and get lots of crosses in (not that Roberts will do anything on current form).

Quite a few famous names

Rowan Williams, Archbishop of Canterbury, was brought up in the area
 Richard Valentine Pitchford (aka Cardini), Master Magician and sleight-of-hand legend, was born in Mumbles in 1895.
 Catherine Zeta-Jones, actress, grew up in Mumbles, and she and Michael Douglas have a house there
 Ian Hislop, satirist and editor, was born in Mumbles.
 Joanna Page, actress, was born in Mumbles.
 Bonnie Tyler, singer and songwriter, lives in Mumbles.

Quite a list.

Pass it back to the keeper, hoof.
Pass it back to the keeper, hoof.
Pass it back to the keeper, hoof.
Pass it back to the keeper, hoof.
Get the ball into a good position, over-hit the cross.
Pass it back to the keeper, hoof.
Pass it back to the keeper, hoof.
Pass it back to the keeper, hoof.
Get the ball into a good position, over-hit the cross.
etc.

Mumbles is on the posh side of Swansea. I'm over on the East, what we lack in Hollywood A-Listers like CZJ we make up with former ginger beefcake, John Hartson.

Not going up to Notts sadly. They've got a Hooters near the ground though which I'm reliably informed is one to check out.

Picking up from Paolo's comments I would say it is Ritchie that he is most disappointed with, probably one of the few postitions we don't have a replacement for so my money's on bringing in a right sided midfielder to kick Ritchies ass. We were ok first half but needed to score when we had a few chances just before half time. Second half they stepped up their game and we didn't. The defence wasnt  too bad apart from Thompson switching off for their goal but we created very little in the second half and never really put them under any pressure. Crappy drive home on the motorway in the pissing rain rounded off a disappointing night.

You got back to Nottingham in less than 2 hours ???

I feel for you.  It's bad enough having a 10/15 minute drive home in the rain after we've lost  :(

Mumbles is posh? Always liked Cwmdu McDonalds for some reason, I think it is the stunning breakfast wrap they do :I'm a complete mofleakin Deak

I no longer live in Nottingham, only an hour from Swindon but a wet motorway all the same.

I remember seeing her house, right by the beach I think

Just got back to the south coast and not read back yet

Dire is the word I would use. Too much hoof and not enough on the deck.

Why change the team again after such a great victory on Saturday? Our last two big wins have been with Bostock on the pitch - why drop him? Sorry Paolo you have to take some responsibility for this and not blame it on the 4 players who you think are amateurs.

Too many poor performances. Brentford did a job on us.

The second half was just awful, only looked like getting anywhere was when Bostock was brought on, and like others have said, why was he dropped to start with, it's not as if he has started heaps of games this season.
I think Ray Charles handed out the motm this evening as well.
Was hoping that the Yeovil game would set us on a bit of a role at home, but today was two steps backwards again.
Fair play to Brentford they took their chance, a good away performance from them, they are level on points with us now.

I'd have given it him as well. Strong in the tackle and won pretty much everything, a dodgy 10 minutes mid second half aside.

This doesn't sound great

Am I the only one who would like paolo to be more flexible in his formation?  For instance last night when we are being outnumbered in midfield maybe switching to a 3-5-2 or a 4-2-3-1 to at atleast allow us to get a foot hold through the extra man.

Wasn't at the game as was in mid air so am just going off what I have read on here!

bit surreal that was...it took me a few moments to take in what he'd just said...that guy was a fucking tool

No you aren't the only one. I was there last night and the 4-4-2 does get a bit rigid and tiresome at times. If we played 4-5-1/4-4-3, I think it might promote a bit more football rather than hoof, and give us some extra width.

We did look a bit clueless when we needed to break them down last night.

Well that was shit....

Took me back to the Wilson Hart days in the second half as we couldn't do anything right but huffed and puffed a lot.

Should of buried that header at the death.

It was a next goal wins game....and they got it!

Perfect summary of the game. Has been like this for a while now.

My bets went to rat shit...

Accumulater.

Homes:

Rotherham
Town (why do I do it?)
Colchester
Pikeys
Bmuff

All defeats and fucking draws...I give up.

I thought the same Flash. We played like a team destined for relegation in the 2nd half - completely devoid of any ideas. The heads seem to drop as soon as we went a goal down and we never looked like getting back into the game. PDC needs a plan B when the more organised (defensive) teams play here.

I'm still confident we'll beat Notts on Saturday!

I wouldn't get over worried, this division is screwy, yet again no home wins last night in the games played. There is only a couple of sides who seem to be able to play at home with consistency.

spot on. People get carried away with both wins and losses. Too much gets read into it

We're close to arse raping this league. Fix whatever is going wrong at home and we'll be out of sight before long.

Weren't we equally rigid in our system last year? Obviously I haven't seen us this season but it doesn't sound like much has changed apart from the quality of opposition.

We do better away from home as teams attack more and leave gaps. At home we struggle to break down defensive opponents as we no longer have the same division in class between ourselves and the opposition. At least that's my ill informed opinion based on radio and comments on here.

I think we are in for a very inconsistent season but will still be up there come May.

I think your ill informed opinion, albeit based on radio and comments on here is pretty accurate.

There is no team in this league taking it by the scruff of the neck and I think if we can hit some consistency and get over this our slightly ropey home form, we could be the team to pull away.

Once Martin and Hollands get up to speed and Williams gets himself fit and flying, we could take off in the second half of the season, which is what we did last season after all.

If we were playing well at home I'd hav some optimism that the results would start coming. A lot of players either making a pass and just admiring it rather than look to receive it again, defenders too often having no one I pass it too only foderingham or an aimless hoof or an over hit cross. Also when the defenders are heading it it just seems a blind head it as far as you can. Yes clear it but before you get the ball have an idea who is around you and put it in the general direction if a red shirt. And that bloody Rooney and Roberts words just fail me!

Did I dream the Yeovil game that was 4 (FOUR) days ago then?

We did score four goals and I was there. It was one of better games. But still we were not knocking it around playing nice football. I think the scoreline flattered us that day.

I disagree that the scoreline flattered us. There's a difference between 'nice' football and effective football. Of the games I've seen lately we may be playing more direct than previously under Di Canio but are still creating plenty of chances - just not taking them at home for whatever reason.

We're not as good as some would like to think we are, but we're not as bad - in terms of quality or style - as you're making out, in my opinion.

But there are times to be direct and times to play it through the middle. If DiCanio was getting them to play direct why not put the bloody ball in the box when we have a corner!

Black ops 2 now. Ps3 chill out time.

The amount of shots we had compared to them suggests otherwise.

Think that's pretty much spot on. It's a very inconsistent league this season hence why we are still inside the top 6 despite not playing all that well.

FWIW I thought we looked pretty decent first half, albeit without a cutting edge till the last 10 mins or so. After the break we seemed to have lost that again a little, still playing OK, then we seemed to run out of ideas a bit when passing the ball around in front of them didn't break them down. And once they scored heads dropped and desperation kicked in. They came for a point, stifled us in doing so and managed to nick 3. It happens.

We're still 6th when all's said and done and I really don't think we're as bad as some seem to feel - think the last 15 mins or so are just what's uppermost in people's minds and is colouring the perception of the game (and for some then the general situation) overall.

We are consistently inconsistent ...

Out of interest, any stattos out there know what our record is like in games in which we've conceded first under Di Canio?

Agree with this as well. Also a lot of fans grew used to us wiping the floor with teams last season but the quality is better in this league.

Down to 6900-ish home fans as well - that's got to be disappointing for the Board.

TBF it was a Tuesday game on a shitty night which may have kept some people away.

We win a game = "we are going to win the league"
We lose a game = "we are destined for relegation if we're not careful"

Last time I checked, the season was determined over 46 games & not 1 game (unless of course it's the play-off final :) ).


Interesting stat for the saddo's out there.
After the same number of games last season we had 33 points, in 2009/10 we had 31 points.
Would suggest that the sky isn't falling in at the moment

Can see it getting lower, the atmosphere has been cack with all this hoofball.

Which seem to coincide with Douglas's foul on Ferry

At the weekend This was better than the hoddle years and the manager was a genius for fooling everyone into the current  league position. Now we are a hoof team with no plan b. Crazy mudda fuckers

On Saturday we were Barcelona, yesterday we were Bristol Rovers.

At the weekend we were a hoof team where plan A worked very well  ;)

 Too many of our fans, have picked up the modern being ludicrously fickle virus.

We're doing Ok, in roughly our historic position, have had a couple of decent wins and some shit defeats. That's what happens if you're a Town fan.

Our recent (last 15 years or so) problem has been an inability to take this to a different level, this usually leading to a slide. That problem still remains.

Ha ha, only Reg could describe the last decade and a half (or so) as "recent" :)

I really cannot believe the attitude of some of our fans. We've been fucking shite the majority of this season for the players we have and find ourselves in sixth place, roughly the same as last year but in a higher league?? (we won the league last year by the way)

We've completely not hit our stride at all yet, yet we find ourselves a mere five points off the top. We've also come through a period of ridiculous injury struggles.

A lot has to be said for Paolo's intense training. It was exactly the same last year. We had lots of niggles early in the year with players looking tired and flat. The second half of the year the fitness shone through and we scored lots of late goals.

Last night was fucking dog-shit, granted. People want to have a little tantrum over it, I get that, I feel the same. But for fuck sake it's not the end of the world. Now's time to forget about last night and move on, and for god sake get behind the team next home game.

P.S If the constant shooting towards the Town End first half is anything to do with us then the decision maker on that needs shooting, sort it out Paolo.

Our record when the opponents score first is 16th best this season out of the 24 teams, so not great.  We have conceded first on six occasions and recovered to obtain two points. 

Tranmere have the best record, having recovered 8 points on the six occasions they have gone behind.

I can't find the stats from last season.

A couple of people have mentioned how fickle our fans are because we think we will get promoted after each win and relegated after each loss.  I think that's a little unfair; isn't it more likely to be different people each time?  I'm not sure a group of people can be fickle, it's just that different members of the group have different views.

It wasn't a house. It was a wind break, nothing but a windbreak.

so was the ball it seems  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

You also have to take in to consideration idiots usually shout loudest, the bbc text ins are a magnet for them. The more rational majority tend to not want every single person to hear there opinion every minute of every day.

I don't think I've ever heard one of those text ins but from what I've read on here that's probably a good thing

They did read out my tweet last night where i said some fans are total weapons.

Not as famous as the cunt laden one i sent in a few weeks. The snooty cow stopped reading it halfway through and said it was frankly quite offensive 8)

Ha ha.  I heard that on the way home.

Andddddd also made to correct their decision and kick towards it 2nd half! I think it creates a better atmosphere in the ground IMO!

No home wins at all in L1 Last night so things could be worse.

I feel more optimistic of a good league position for us this season if only for the fact there are not the quality teams in this division this time around.

Sure we will struggle to stock up on wood for the cold winter ahead, but quality timber is in short supply everywhere and not a Forest in sight

It was Douglas who turned us around last night, we kicked off the 1st half. So thats one toss up we have definitely lost.

I listened to the Brentford Commentary.

While their Terry Christian/David Brent hybrid of a wankstain commentator was as irritating as scabies, he did say that we looked really good at times and are one of the best he's seen this season. No doubt he's been watching his team shut up shop all season and all other teams have a similar problem against them.

We heard that on the way home, we pissed ourselves laughing, good work.
Missed that one, do tell!

I sent it after the burnley game, said it wasnt austin who got us relegated, it was all the other bottling cunt wankers.

She said, 'i  have a tweet from tans, its frankly quite offensive, but he says it wasnt austins fault we got relegated'

She wasn't at home though, lost in France.

I sent one in when we were winning at half time saying "That was a great half Fuck da di canio haterz"

They read out the first half then stopped after reading the second half, you'd though they'd proof read all their tweets rather than starting to read them all out!

We should start trolling the adver call in.

Surely it's self-trolling? It'd be like trying to satirise Sarah Palin

Just noticed Douglas will miss their home game v Sheff United this weekend as he picked up his fifth yellow against us.

But doesn't a troll have to know they are a troll to troll? Otherwise aren't they just a fucking idiot?

Think it largely depends on whether they hang out under bridges waiting for goats to trippy-trap overhead.

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Ask Tans he does a lot of Trolling

You've got to pay the Troll Toll, get into that boys soul