Thetownend.com

He's changed his tune a bit since the 'circus' outburst earlier in the season...

http://www.crawleytownfc.com/page/LatestNews/0,,11025~2585985,00.html

That bloke really is a total cunt. :smugfu:

Running scared.

That crashed in my Firefox, but said:

I've highlighted what I think he wants, PDC banned for the Feb 14th game.  Scared of sharing the touchline with him ?

Mind games.

He's chose to praise him this time.

He is just a complete cunt.

Always acting like the big man.. Reminds me a little of Clough..

Mug.

A few managers have failed in their mind games with Paolo so not surprised they are now trying different tactics. Perhaps Evans thinks the Swindon fans will take it easy on him at the County ground, No chance !

I'm with Batch, he's trying to get Di Canio a multi-game touchline ban and that's all this is about.

The word gets thrown around on here so much, but this man truly is a grade A cunt.

not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet, but what a cunt

Does anyone think Steve Evans is a cunt?

Not me... I think he's a fat cunt!

Let PDC in the Townend for the Crawley game.

More worryingly it looks like the fat bastard is trying to eat Paolo in that photo...

Freddie Starr in drag fat cunt

You cant argue with the fact he has done a great job, at being a fat cunt hated by all

What a fucking cunt. You and your shitty little club can fuck right off.

fucking cuntslush

What a great big fat shit cunt!

I think he's misunderstood.

Is he not popular then? Why?  ???

Steve who?

What a cunt.

I really can't see why everyone is worked up? Seem like fair and reasonable comments to me.

vagina,twat ;D

Hey, stop using logic or rationale to get in the way of a good ol' fashioned cunt bashing.

Shut it Cunt

[yeo]I like Steve Evans[/yeo]

Used to think he was a cnut, but I actually don't mind Evans these days. Just don't take him too seriously and he's like a Scottish tramp version of Mourinho, in a way.

Just another nobody in a long line of nobodies wanting to talk about Paolo Di Canio.

Fat scum bag, bit like wilder

More like Steve FatCunt!...Cunt!

I like him.

He's a crooked fat cunt, who should be locked up and banned from football for good.


TIME !!!!

But if he talks about PDC then he probably thinks he will get himself a few headlines and make himself popular again

I bet he's shitting himself.  A couple of weeks ago they were well ahead of everyone, now it's down to goal difference and we are clearly the form team and have been reeling the top 3 in over the last couple of weeks.  This is a thinly veiled attempt to get PDC a big ban in the hope it will stop our momentum.

Anyone got the picture of him as a clown? that is a quality picture

Well apparently the fat crooked cunt was at the Northampton game watching us, a full 6 weeks before we played them

Worried...You bet he is.

It a bit about trying to get PDC banned and a bit about trying to shift attention from league paupers Crawley to moneybags Swindon, Southend and Cheltenham.

Two threads on Steve Evans!?!

Anyone would think that we were obsessed.

Well he's obsessed with PdC...

There's a whole lot of Steve Evans to cover.

I cant work out of football is getting more like a FM or FM is getting more like football..

CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNTCUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT CUNT Fucking fat cunt anyone?

Football manager has an "is Steve Evans a cunt" poll?

I thought he was talking about radio frequencies. Now it makes sense...

He might have been.

To echo the chant at Crawley:

"Paulos a Ledge and you're a cunt!"...repeat

Paolo its Paolo !!!!!!

Paolo, it's Paolo.      Good try though.

Crawley are charging £32 for tickets for the Stoke match, haha, fucking robbing bastards!

http://www.stokecityfc.com/page/Upcoming/0,,10310~2596674,00.html

To be fair, they can only fit about 5,000 in there, so they need to maximise revenue somehow. They only get about 1.5k normally don't they? I'm happy for the extras to have to pay, shame about the regulars of course.

They turned down £2m on deadline day from the posh for Barnett and mcfadzen too!

Looks as if we're not the only ones that despise the cunt.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/16945490

If they genuinely cared about their own true fans they should have a lower pricing for season ticket holders and let the happy clappers pay the higher ticket price.

He did his antics at Hull in the Cup trying to get one of the Hull players sent off. I don't think he's liked my many football fans in the country.

Total utter cunt and I will weep if they leave on Tuesday with anymore than fuck all.

It will be us or Creepy who wins the league so i think it's fair to call Evans a cunt. All rivals are cunts

Evans is a big fat Bobby Davro lookalike cunt.

He's just a cunt Arriba, plain and simple.

League table is looking good though, as long as the fixture backlog doesn't screw us. Crawley have the same problem though.

Yep, beat Crawley (go second) and then winning the title is in our own hands. [okay, scrub that - I didn't realise Cheltenham and Southend were playing as well!]

this

The recent wins against Wigan and Barnet were great but beating Crawley on Tuesday would be the icing on the cake and really put us on track to get that top spot. Think Crawley will miss their manager being on the bench more than we will.

Agree with this. Tuesday night is probably the biggest game of the season so far - a win would be massive. Think you're right about Evans too - he seems to be very influential on the touchline, whereas we've proven we can cope fine with Paolo in the stands. IF anybody is affectd by the manager being absent, it'll be them.

So is Evans banned from the touchline then? Didn't think he'd even been charged by the FA yet.

As others have said, it'll be us or Crawley who win the title. Beating them on Tuesday will put us firmly in the driving seat.

he hasn't

I was just going on what others have said, perhaps I got the wrong end of the stick. If he doesn't get a ban, I can imagine Paolo will be a tad displeased with the FA. Sounds like Evans was being a right prick.

So he was being himself then!

Funnily enough the same point was made in the Adver today.

What was the time span between Di Canio's sending off and the ban ?  Probably a bit too soon for Evans to be dealt with (hopefully it'll be for the cup game, if not Tuesday)

On the wind up again, or the writer of the peice is anyway.

http://www.crawleytownfc.com/page/LatestNews/0,,11025~2608320,00.html

I thought 'he' was pretty respectful of us. It's the writer who's added the "self proclaimed" bit.

He's trying to defuse the Town faithful and provide a calmer atmosphere. The "circus" jibe backfired last time.

The writer is clearly on a bit of a wind up. Typical Crawley really.

Does anyone else think he looks like Harry Secombe?

He's alwayd reminded me of Den Perry off of Phonix nights

'Swindon-The self proclaimed League 2 Champions elect' on their official site...what a bunch of cunts, The Fat Controller can do one tomorrow...3 points please!!!

Although they're right of course.

Damn straight Red Frog!

Just the way it came across to me on their site!!!

Least we didn't call it 'Project Promotion' !!

Fat boy's lost it.

http://www.crawleyobserver.co.uk/sport/evans-refuses-to-speak-to-press-after-macclesfield-draw-1-3613248 (http://www.crawleyobserver.co.uk/sport/evans-refuses-to-speak-to-press-after-macclesfield-draw-1-3613248)

'Our season is falling apart and he can't handle the pressure. Time to get rid'.

Comment from a Crawley fan.

hehe.

"He is slowly becoming a bit of a laughing stock"

Only slowly?

Nev would have a grammar field day on the Creepy Crawley forum

So says the fan of a club that has let Tubbs and Barnett go just when they desperately need them. I wonder where Crawley get their money from. The only reason Evans didn;t speak to the press was that he found a good pie shop up North and was filling his chops.

Why is nobody apparently capable of multiplying 5000 more fans by £25 a ticket by 23 games a season and suddenly working out exactly why we have more money than their club?

Apparently we're buying our way out of league 2. It's almost like there's no wage cap... oh wait

Thats not exactly true is it? Most of fans in the ground have cheap season tickets. Some games there must have been less than 300 people paying the full £25 figure.

Multiplying it by 15 still makes a fuckton of money. I take your point, but I'm fairly sure there have never been less than a thousand, we sold just short of 5000 Season tickets right? Average attendance must be a fair bit over 7k now?

Pulling those figures out of my arse completely but would be surprised if I was far out.

And Ghani, the wage cap is a % of your turnover. Our turnover is much higher, so in one sense we are. Still, plenty of teams have spent the money and fucked it up.

The wage cap is 55% of your turnover. As you say Nemo that would mean that because our turnover is a lot higher than other teams our wage budget is a lot higher than pretty much all the teams in this league. When people go on about us spending so much money on wages I don't get it really because it's not exactly our fault we get more revenue that most teams in this league do.

We've got around 4.5k ST holders, and average attendance is just under 8k, which mean we've still have had an average paying on the day, of 3.5k...which is still bigger than watch Crawley !!

4900 season ticket holders, average attendance 7900ish. Good guess Nemo.

Is it not 65%?

60% this season and 55% next

Fat Cunt's into 1/4 to be the next Rotherham boss with skybet. Seems a strange one to me, especially now that they've picked up their form again and have a good chance of automatic promotion.

If he does go, how much of everyone's hatred of Crawley would he take with him? 80%? More or less?

I'd feel sorry for Rotherham. Andy Scott and then Steve Evans. Both horrible cunts.

Can't see that happening. Why would he go there ??

Do Rotherham have money to spend next season ?

They've got a new stadium back in Rotherham. Only has a capacity in the region of 10k though.

Lee Clark is 7/2

Pissed off at having his strike force sold from behind his back?

Knows Crawley are going to be screwed financially soon?

Wants to escape being owned by PDC next year should Crawley go up?

...as opposed to Crawley's of 4,996.

Perhaps to go along with the new stadium someone's put a bit of money in?

If you were a Rotherham fan would you be happy with a new stadium with a 10,000 capacity.

What sort of message is the club sending the fans as to its ambition?

So when the CG is eventually redeveloped, what sort of realistic capacity would be about right - 25,000?

Agreed.  With a 10k stadium you're basically saying that you don't really think you'll ever go higher than L1.

And yes, I would like to see a redeveloped CG with a capacity of about 25,000.

In fairness to Rotherham, they're not in the best o fpositions to be building a super amazing 20k capacity stadium with bells on. They built a new ground because they had to.

They have the right idea. Community stadium, central to town and next to the station. 12k is enough for a club of their size, they can always expand in the future.

If it was planned correctly, I'd like to see a 20k stadium with the possibility of extending to 25k+ (perhaps by filling in corners?). 

Considering that we're not moving, and it will have to be completed in phases, I don't think people will be immediately drawn to it like they would have if we were moving to a new stadium.  And there's nothing worse than an obviously empty stadium, or worse, a stadium where one stand is kept closed (or missing!).

From Rotherham's perspective far better to be a solid lower league team attracting a few thousand each week with an occasional full house of 10K for a cup match or local derby than go down the road trodden by Darlington with a white elephant of a 25K stadium that was hardly ever much more than 10% full.

I don't doubt that they've done the right thing. As a football fan though you need to be able to have that dream, however faint, that one day your team will make it all the way to the Premier League. By building a 10,000 capacity stadium they are staying "We're a lower league club and a lower league club we'll stay". Having said that, maybe they have the scope there to increase the capacity. I hope they do.

I'm not in the habit of saying anything good about the Franchise but I think they've done the right thing at their stadium by leaving the top tier all around the gound empty. This means the fans are less scattered around and if they do go up (as I suspect they might) they can easily chuck in some seats there and you've instantly added on 5,000 to your capacity.

Edit: Make that 10,000 in their case http://www.footballgroundguide.com/milton_keynes_dons/

The Wiki article says it can be though the reference cited doesn't support the claim. It would be madness not to be able to do so I guess.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Stadium#cite_note-7

 :D You wouldn't fancy a fence at one end then?

http://www.thisissussex.co.uk/story-15738514-detail/story.html

Very much hoping this does not come off.
He is not deserving of that job

The proverbial Crawley wheels are falling off if that happens.

They are already falling off...

"The penalty came too late. If it is deliberate handball in the box and it falls to Sergio [Torres] is it not a red card? It would have been if we'd have done it, I know that."

Yes Steve, because your previous red cards weren't for having a full on punch up on the pitch or anything.

How is he being lined up for the Rotherham job?! their fans should be furious if he gets the job. I don't wish him on anyone, not even Oxford.

Rotherham fans on the whole don't seem too enamored:


http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=450&fid=215&sty=2&act=1&mid=2115023788&page=1

I would not like Evans to be our manager one little bit. If our board even considered appointing him, I'd lose interest considerably in my beloved STFC for some time.

However, for a lower league team that doesn't have a bright foreseeable future and needs to scrap out a season or two just to exist, a manager like Evans could be just the ticket. Controversial, crude, unlikable, yet very very effective.

Survival is more important than popularity for many a club out there

So a manager who is allowed to spend lavishly on players and fail miserably as it seems the case at Crawley will suddenly become the saviour of a football club with no money at all.......how effective is Steve Evans in reality.............i think Crawleys recent run is giving us an idea of hoe effective he really is.
Having Steve Evans as manager wouldn't guarantee survival in my opinion.

Leefer.

You were very quick to blame Wilson's demise on the board last season...............

who gives a fuck who steve evans does or doesnt manage?

well, all of you lot obviously. as long as he isnt managing us I couldnt care less.

Anyway.

Not trying to say Evans would be a good choice. Just that I can see why some clubs could see him as somebody that could do a nasty job that needs to be done.

Mad dog Allen could have kept us up last season

I doubt a lorry load of viagra could have kept us up last year.

Would be worth a try though

Lost me :D :D

I sort of see what you are getting at Flasheart but his record isnt that great in reality and his off field antics with Boston may well put clubs off in the future.

A fair few Crawley fans are moaning about the hoofball they play too. Not that hoofball can't get results.

There are very few people I really dislike in football but Evans has definitely become one of them. I only wish bad things on him and whatever he attempts within his football career.

Who posts in a thread entitled "Steve Evans" when they don't care about him ;)

me, clearly...

Complaining about hoofball when somebody has taken you from non-league to pushing for League One is ridiculous. I can't stand Evans, but whichever way you spin it he's done a pretty good job there so far. Let's just hope the bubble bursts soon.

Fuck off!

Paul hart would have caused a derection!

I hope he goes to Rotherham this week. Crawley could lose the next few games and we could be up.

They don't deserve that.

New ground and a fresh start....buckle would of been a good appointment.

Haha apparently Mick McCarthy has been linked. What planet are they on?

Bit suprised he went to Luton. Thought he could have done better.

Really? Buckle did an awful job at Rovers. Their fans hated him and so do Torquay's fans. He's a bit of a cock apparently and not a very good manager. Don't get why people think he would be a decent appointment really.

Incidentally, where did this Paul Buckle: Superstar theory come from?

Buckle has joined arguably the biggest name in Non-League football and is back in the division where he enjoyed success. Looks like a good fit for both parties.

Exactly......get em up and then fuck off.

Strong rumours that Evans has gone to Rotherham today. Couldn't have a lower opinion of him to start with but can't understand why he'd abandon a very good chance of promotion with Crawley. Surely the increase in money isn't worth missing out on promotion?

Once a cunt....

Crawley's 'Project Promotion' is just about to blow up. They've spent money they haven't got, and due to the fact they didn't draw Man U away in the Cup again, they had to sell their two main strikers to balance the books.

I bet Rotherham fans are pleased about the appointment...not !

http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=450&fid=215&sty=2&act=1&mid=2115000971

Think its fair to say they arent happy at all, who would be though.

"Imagine the disappointment of it all if Crawley then went and appointed anyone from Lee Clark/Mick McCarthy/Sean O'Driscoll!"

...If that's an idea of what Rotherham were expecting I feel they may have been being a little unrealistic.

Rotherham are a bigger club than Crawley and have a better long term future with the new ground and everything so I can see why he'd want to go. But why would Rotherham want him in the first place? Crawley could have had me in charge and still made it into the football league with all the money they've spent. It's not down to Steve Evans at all.

I'm pro-Evans to Rotherham because that should be a season without having to talk/think about him. I miss those days.

We all have our opinions of this bloke, none that I have heard are complimentary, however he has for Rotherham, if true the "Di Canio" factor.

Ok, before any of you get all girly and reach for your keyboards to vent your spleen, think about it.

A potential manager like PDC is not going to or less likely to go to a club like the Millers. It's not got the potential dare i say like us, that's why Macari, Ardiles, Hoddle and Paolo came here. Evans on the other hand has managerial experience and has been successful. Yeah, Yeah he  has form and is an unsavoury character but for an ambitious club like Rotherham you'd look at that bloke and think "what could he do for us"?

JW I saw, in a pre-Wembely interview referred to a glass ceiling WRT Paolo's future ambitions and our clubs ability to match it. Well what future outlook do you put down for Crawley? It's abundantly clear that they are struggling financially although I doubt and hope for their fans they don't go bust in the process of achieving div 1 success as to balance the books they sold their best two strikers. As their manager what message do you think that sends out. Even if he got them promoted without the replacements that he has bought in, he'll be thinking "what will I have to work with next season?"

I think Crawley and particularly Evans has his face squashed firmly on the underside of that glass ceiling.

It may be all a vicious rumour but stranger things have happened. Evans is no Paolo by a country mile but he may be for the Millers and that fellow TEF ers is football and a situation we will as JW alluded to will come to face but hopefully not for a few years yet.

Big call on the Creepy forum for them to break the bank and get Lee Clark in as new manager if Evans does indeed go....delusional or what?

Apparently some of the players at Creepy have said he is as good as left already.

Paul Hart to Crawley?

I disagree with that completely.

Volatility is the only common factor here for me.

PDC is a big big name. He has the ability to capture the imagination of the public and to capture players that a club in our position have no right to sign. He is a statement of intent for this club.

Evans is a big big cunt. He has the ability to repulse and if he was appointed our manager I'd imagine season ticket sales reversing quicker than a playoff charge from Oxford. I can't see it being much different in Rotherham. I can't believe any players would be quick to buy into the Evans dream, more likely money and desperation will be the deciding factors in players going there just like they are at Crawley (see Clarke and Alexander).

I thought they'd done that several times over ???

Sounds like he's gone then! GR just retweeted a sports Jurno Jacob Murtag


Poor bastards at Rotherham.

Totally and utterly bizarre timing  ???

 :) Is that technically feasible?

Brilliant timing for us if this is true. Crawley might hit the buffers now.

Yeah if true. Jurnos get it wrong some times!

Agree with OST, bizarre timing. Something must be happening at Crawley, wheels falling off their finances ?

Bloodhound SSC have just conceded defeat
http://www.bloodhoundssc.com/

Excelent news for Crawley then....and for kebab shop  owners in the Sheffield area.

Agree, what a shyster. Pity the poor Rotherham fans, they ain't going to be happy

His Scum assistant Raynor is nearly as big a cunt as Evans.

Don't let my comments ruin your day.

You're entitled to your opinion.

They are and can be both volatile that much I agree on. Paolo is more eloquent and reasoned though.

So is Evans, just on a different level. You clearly don't think that Evans has captured that same enthusiasm and imagination at Crawley do you? Not everyone who is successful in football has had a glittering career like Paolo. Though you can't see it you have to think and look at Crawley and where they came from and where they are on the cusp of.

Evans is and would also be a statement of intent for Rotherham if true, again, on a different level to us.

You lose your argument on the first line of your third paragraph, you notice or perhaps you didn't I never ever referred to Evans in any offensive way, even though I loath the man. Some say the same about Paolo don't they? Yes of course they would but he wouldn't would he. You like me and many know very little about Rotherham. There are good players who would not get in our team who will have seen what Evans has done at Crawley and see that as a ticket to a better contract with money they would not otherwise get. That will also happen here. Players who would have easily overlooked us with a journeyman manager are as Paolo said earlier in the season ringing their agents and asking about us.

You clearly have let your personal feelings of Evans, someone you don't know get in the way of an (my) objective post. I don't know the man either I only know what I see and read. That is why I tried to put a different view on the possible move from Crawley to Rotherham. If true their chairman clearly sees the positives and potential you can't or don't want to see.

I really don't care either way what Rotherham football club and their chairman do nor for that matter Crawley and Evans.

I do care what happens at SN1. I do however read other posts with interest and try to comment objectively as best I can with what I hope are well thought out and objective responses and opinion.

Sweeping statements and generalisations are just that.    

I expect money to be the root cause of any move. Rotherham have a bigger catchment area. Crawley have Brighton one way and South London the other. They would struggle to grow organically. They did sell Tubbs and the other guy like we rolled over and sold Duncan Shearer.

That told Evans everything. Besides as others have alluded to the pies are better in Yorkshire.

Most people do tend to let Evans' utter cuntishness (which is beyond question) obscure the fact that he does have something about him as a manager which to me is also beyond question.

I would not bet against him getting them promoted next season.

Thank you. I clearly need to explain myself on similar lines. Good post.

It's like a doctor giving some disgusting medicine to a patient

'I know you wont like it but I know what's good for you'

I presume the powers that be at the Millers are counting on instant success will overcome the loathing a lot of their fans may well feel about his appointment.

If we were in last season's position, would we welcome this man?

Personally, I'd like to kick him in the hole

I very much doubt it, and I couldn't even see Wray considering it

That maybe so, but the timing is odd, given that Crawley are banging on the door of promotion. You'd thought Evans would want that on his cv first before making a summer move.

What got your goat? Why the fuck would your comments ruin my day? I was disagreeing with your assessment. Its kind of how public forums work, you post an opinion then people agree or disagree with it.



I just don't see it that way.

Oh well then there is no point continuing is there. It practically as good as putting "fact!" at the end of a sentence.


Thanks for telling me how I think, I'll bare it in mind ;)
--
IF he goes to Rotherham we'll see how he does with a probable more modest budget.

Rotherham is undoubtedly a step up in his career. I personally think his abrasive manner and antics will hold him back. I do not see him as a bright young prospect. Fact!

The timing of this is bizarre.  Not sure I can remember a manager moving to a rival team so late in the season with so much still to play for.  Crawley are on the verge of making club history - but just goes to show, I suppose, that 'Project Promotion' was a house of cards and was never a sustainable objective.  Regardless of whether they do go up again this time, expect to see them back at their natural level (Conference/Conference South) within a few seasons.

Financial shit about to hit the fan at Crawley? That was my first reaction.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17656607

I think its funny.

Hopefully crawley will implode next season and go bust halfway through

If you look at it from the Crawley directos point of view it might not be that bad. I'd imagine they'd receive some compensation for him. They might actually be sick of his antics and he has possibly  fucked up automatic promotion from a fantastic position. They might be glad to get rid and appoint someone who can get them over the finishing line and help them get away from their cunt tag. .

He signed a new contract this year until 2014 so they will get compensation.

At least it removes the dilemma should Crawley meet Pox in the playoffs

Not a dilemna for me

Haha, just chuckled at the Batch response, was waiting for that to turn up as soon as I read the previous response!

 :clap:

The only time Evans has had 'success' as a manager it's been wither by paying their players illegally, which he then tried to cover up, at Boston, or overspending at Crawley via 'Project Promotion', which they got lucky last season by getting the windfall of drawing Man U in the Cup.

Hopefully he'll get sacked within 6 months.

I don't see Crawley looking beyond Craig Brewster for their next manager. Cheaper option and, in fairness, plenty of coaching experience.

Of course, I hope Crawley's demise causes them to lose at least one of the next couple of games, as that will mean we can clinch promotion on Saturday if we beat both Northampton and Plymuff.

Looking at Rotherham's fixtures it is not beyond the possibility of them winning
four out of their five remaining games and scraping into the play-offs. The
hardest game they really have is Shrewsbury away, and the Shrews have not
lost at home at all this season and every team loses at least one at home.
Could Evans do the unthinkable?  :hmmm:

What, resist a pie?

That's the end of Crawley then. I can see them being relegated next season (whichever league they end up in).

Poor Rotherham, I'm sure they'll do well but it's like selling your soul to the devil.

Crawley v Rotherham play-off final it is then.

Must be a strange feeling for Rotherham fans to know that the entire football world will be wanting them to lose every week from hereon.

Got a text from a mate saying crawley are to have 15 points docked. No idea if theres any truth in it, but if so, then it appears Mr Evans has worked his magic again.

Oh, the source is twitter. May as well ignore it then.

If it happens it would confirm our promotion.

It bollocks i think. Someone said it was to do with the wage cap, but it wont apply to them until next season will it?

I thought more of Rotherham. Lost a lot of respect for them employing this scar on the face of football. Although to be fair to them, if the authorities haven't seen fit to ban the bastard as they should, then I suppose Rotherham/Crawley/whoever can claim they're quite entitled to employ the slug

Hello Mr D, welcome back :bye:

I've made more comebacks than Sinatra now :) . Nah, just pop in occasionally to have a lurk and even more occasionally post. Hello, OST. FACT!

I hadn't noticed. How remiss of me. I take it your view of Il Duce has changed - or maybe not? :hmmm:

I think it is a certainly Crawley will get a points deduction, but not 15.
Rotherham do have an outside squeak of a play-off place, 4pts behind with 4 games to go, tough but a chance.

I wish Crawley all the best now Evans has gone, and condolences to Rotherham you have just appointed a right fucking nasty cheating shit.

For what?

Admin is ten points isn't it?

edit, See tans mentioned the wage cap

You've not missed much tbf
Fraid not. He's done a damn good job as manager though, money to spend or not.

Have you not watched their recent games/reports, countless news items on BBC/Sky etc etc, remember Bradford it must be at least two weeks ago??!! :D

Thats the rumour, but it wouldnt apply to them would it as ut is their first season in the league

Errrm no, I don't have Sky and I don't watch much TV, let alone read their match reports

I did hear about the handbags though

They wouldn't get docked points for a punch up surely?

If Evans is aware of a points deduction that would improve the odds of Rotherham making the play-offs. That would be a helluva way to get the fans behind him.

Man U/Arsenal did, though the twitter rumour was related to finances as already mentioned.

If the points figure is correct,that would be to make sure they didn't make the play-offs either.

They have to do somthing after Notts County won the title despite significantly breaking the salary cap a few years ago...and all they got was a transfer ban.

Wasn't that only 3 though not the 10-15 being bandied about

I seriously doubt the rumour is actually true :)

I'm not going to assume anything until it happens...but the FL have to do something if they want clubs to take the salary cap seriously, and I think we all know that Crawley have been bending the salary cap rules for the last couple of years, as they apparently budgeted for an average attendance of 4,500...and they've been struggling to get half of that.

Probably, but it does make you wonder why he jumped ship on the verge of possible promotion and greatness(using the term loosely)

They sold players though in January. Surely they'd claim they addressed the over budgeting.


Crawley could still be going into financial meltdown, just not outside the rules. Guess he took an opportunity when it came.

Or he was annoyed at having his team sold from under him.

Oh fucking hell.

Poor old Rotherham....I now want them to lose every game.

Poor cunts.

New ground....deserve better.

Jabba could do a us a big favour by taking points off Shrewsbury at the weekend.

Rotherham have won the last 3 on the bounce so could pick up a play off space on any further slide from Oxford or Cheltenham, but if that happens then you'd fancy Crewe to nip in and take that place unless both Oxford and Cheltenham drop out.

Maybe Crawley have had enough of Evans and allowed him to talk to Rotherham. If they are up before the FA on a charge, they could argue it was Evans culture he created in the club that led to the brawl at Bradford an they have let him go.

If Crawley were desperate to keep Evans, then sure they would have refused Rotherham permission to speak to him and forced him to quit or hang on to the end of the season. Just think there has got to be more to this than meets the eye.

Fantastic summary of Rotherham's situation on the Rotherhan forum

Steve Evans - My Thoughts & Observations
I have a few observations on today’s appointment of Steve Evans.

Loyalty
One thing that I haven’t seen mentioned yet is the fact that Steve Evans has jumped ship from Crawley with 5 games left. As fans we hypocritically bang on about loyalty all the time; it’s a stick often used to beat Mark Robins with for leaving us (yet on the flip side as soon as a manager loses three games in a row our fans show our loyalty by calling for his head). So Crawley’s chances of automatic promotion have dried up slightly (they are 2 points behind 3rd place Shrewsbury) and Evans has left them. Does he not have a job with them to finish? At least see it through to the end of the season? Nah. He’s jumped ship for a team lower in the league. I wouldn’t be happy if I was a Crawley fan. Let’s hope he shows more loyalty to us if he succeeds.

If you want more evidence of Steve Evans’ loyalty, here it is. On May 8 2007, after being relegated with Boston, he said, "I have a contract at Boston and I will not be applying for the manager's job at Chester City or indeed a job anywhere." Three weeks later he and his assistant Paul Raynor handed in their resignations to join Crawley.

His Record
His managerial record isn’t that good. At Boston he got successive promotions, but Boston cheated their way to promotion. After serving his ban for cheating, he went back to Boston and got them relegated. He then went to Crawley. Bankrolled by a millionaire, they spent heavily to win promotion. Think about Pablo Mills choosing to drop to non-league, spending around £300k on Richard Brodie (the non-league record signing) etc. In football the team that spends the most money usually wins, and Crawley spent the most in the Conference last year. This year they were again favourites to win the league, and as mentioned above, they haven’t delivered. What’s he like at developing young players? Is his brand of football entertaining? Ignoring everything else, is his managerial record really good enough for us to warrant Tony Stewart headhunting the bloke? Not for me.

Convicted Cheat
As if anyone needs reminding, we’ve just hired a bloke who was convicted and banned from football for two years for cheating. One of the arguments I’ve seen on here is, ‘Well, how many have us have stolen a sweety from the Pick ‘n’ Mix at Woolworths? Can we cast the first stone?’ I might not care if the bloke stood next to me on the terraces has fiddled with his taxes, but I do if the manager of my football pleaded guilty to it. At the end of the day, sport is nothing without its integrity, and the new figurehead of our football club is a man who has shown in the past that he has no regard for this fundamental principal in sport.

Personality
Ignoring the criminal conviction, Steve Evans is an odious, disrespectful and arrogant human being. There is a thread on here from about October entitled ‘OT Evans mouthing off again’ which gets bumped with new snippets every month or so. So in the past year these include the following headlines:
* ‘AFC Wimbledon not a big game for Crawley’ – Steve Evans
* ‘Stoke have Championship players’ – Steve Evans
* Evans drops racial abuse complaint against Andy Hessenthaler.

Evans is not respected by his fellow professionals:

Phil Parkinson's quotes after the recent infamous post-match brawl in the Bradford v Crawley game.
"We know what Crawley bring in terms of an intimidating approach before, during and after matches."
He blasted: “That’s the way Crawley play. We told the players before the game not to get involved and we have.
“If you look at Crawley’s record, they incite that type of incident. Speak to every manager and there’s a long list of them.”

These are comments from Cheltenham’s Mark Yates after the two met: "He got under my skin and I fell for it," Yates told BBC Gloucestershire.
"He questioned my integrity in the first half. It was completely out of order, completely wrong."
Yates continued: "I fell for the old one-two. Their manager is incessant and I've held back a number of times and said what a good bloke he is.
"There's a lot of people who don't like him in our league, there's a lot of people who don't like him in football, he does what he does, he riles people and I fell for it.”

Evans is a bad loser:

These are his comments after they lost to Gillingham: “The best side lost. If Gillingham come out and say anything different they are in cloud-cuckoo land. Had the match been an 11-versus-11 contest there would have only been one winner.
"We're disappointed to have lost but we'll get the players in and we'll go again. These kinds of games are not easy ones for us. You saw the reaction from Gillingham. Their celebrations were as though they had won the World Cup’’

Or how about his comments after Crawley drew with Woking last season:
"I showed him a stopwatch which is held by the physio and then went down the tunnel and left it at that. Then we understood that he took the opposition manager into his dressing room for a little chat and a cup of tea.
"That is unacceptable so I told the referee what I thought and he told me to go to the stand.
"He certainly played enough time to let them get the goal and gave enough decisions to Woking to make me think that the chat was friendly.
"I am saying that he had a bias towards Woking. He had a horrible day’’

Furthermore, Evans was once escorted from a game at Grimsby by police. He was removed from a game against Wycombe in 2006 after an altercation with Wycombe’s Tommy Doherty. He was given a 13 match touchline ban in 2009. Time after time he shows no respect for officials or the opposition. In 2005 he was fined £1000 for admitting using insulting or abusive words to the match officials. He, along with his backroom staff, jump around on the touchline attempting to bully and intimidate the officials. Do we really want a man with these traits acting as the figurehead of our club?

The Silver Tongue
During Andy Scott’s reign, people on here kept talking about how Scott must have used his ‘silver tongue’ to ‘smooth-talk’ Tony Stewart into giving him the job. Then Steve Evans talks in the press about what a good club we are and what a good chairman we have and next thing we know he’s the new manager after tickling Tony Stewart’s belly. soapy tit wank.

Three Year Deal
Once again, we’ve given a manager a three year deal. Listening to Tony Stewart speak, all he ever talks about is promotion, success, winning etc. so if we’re not in the top 3 in March 2013 does that mean we’re sacking another manager 12 months into a three year deal? Nice one.

Timing
Darren Patterson must be a little bit annoyed. Since taking over, he’s won 4 out of 5 games. We’ve got a little bit of a run going on. It seems quite harsh to stop it now to bring Steve Evans in.

Bums on seats in the new stadium
It’s a good time to be a Rotherham fan, what with the new stadium on the horizon. We got rid of Scott because people didn’t want him to be the man leading us into the New York Stadium. We had a good opportunity to unite the fans with a sound managerial appointment to take us into this new era. Instead we’ve once again made a decision to hire a man who has split the opinion of the fans. We already have a stick to beat the manager with and he’s not been in the job 10 minutes. The fans will be even less tolerant of bad results with a man like Evans in charge. We’ve even had reactions, albeit hot-headed knee-jerk reactions, from various people saying, ‘I won’t get a season ticket with Evans in charge’. This appointment is not the ‘name’ that will add bums on seats. If anything, it will put people off.

Tony Stewart
It’s a good job the new stadium is so bloody brilliant, because most of Tony Stewart’s decision making has been shaky to say the least. Sometimes other clubs do things and you think, ‘God I’m glad I don’t support them’. We seem to be making these sort of stupid decisions every year.
* We leave Millmoor for an athletics stadium in Sheffield.
* We sack our manager when we’re 6th in March.
* We call our stadium the New York Stadium.
* We sack another manager less than a year into a three year deal.
* We hire an odious convicted cheat as our new manager.
It’s like Tony Stewart’s motto is ‘any publicity is good publicity’. It’s getting a bit daft.

People In The Know
‘Lee Clark is definitely the new manager. I know this for sure’. ‘Steve Evans is just paper talk, it’s not true.’ Let’s face it, most of you know b*gger all, so stop pretending you do. As for TFA and gisbertswhiteboots, I hope you enjoyed ‘moving the markets’ on Mick McCarthy – 33/1 I s a really good price you got there. PMSL.

Other
I know it’s wrong to judge a book by its cover, but Evans looks like a transvestite pig, a cross between Miss Piggy and a Bangkok ladyboy. He wears fake tan and eyeliner. And worst of all, he looks like TFA!

In Conclusion
Once again, I seem to be left in the position of thinking ‘Well Rotherham United have made another stupid balls up of a decision, but I’m a Rotherham fan and therefore I have to get behind them’, which as ever, I’ll do. But it makes it so much harder to get behind a team with Steve Evans in charge. The thought of singing, ‘Steve Evans’ Red and White Army’ doesn’t feel great. I’m struggling to imagine getting to a position of being able to say I like the bloke. It’s a shame. I’d have rather have Mark Robins. I’d have rather have Brian laws. I’d even rather have Gary Megson. I think before today’s announcement I only read two people who wanted Evans – rufc1986, who normally likes to go against the grain, and ash_rufc who would sell his own grandmother for promotion to the promised land of League 2, where the likes of Yeovil and Stevenage await us at the pearly gates. The lion’s share of people think it’s daft.

But... But... He didn't mentioned Swindon Town once...

Good summing up that...and they didn't mention his antics with us and PdC once.

The Man is a cunt, didn't think much of Rotherham in the first place after their antics against us twice this season...goodbye Evans, goodbye Rotherham and goodbye Crawley!!!

Couldn't happen to a bunch of nicer people  :D

Poor bastards.

This is how much I dislike Evans because before today Rotherham were just another team in league two but already I want them to fail because of him.

Steve Coppell named director of football at Crawley.

Now there couldn't be a greater contrast between the oaf that has left them and the genuinely good bloke who has joined. If I was a Crawley player, I'd be delighted.

Good appointment, experienced and has had some success.

For their sake, they'd better hope he lasts longer than he did at City.

Does a football club that attracts just over 3,000 fans to each home game really need a Director of Football?

Sounds like they are trying to rehabilitate themselves. Fed up with being a pariah.

The fans must be as excited as us when we took on board Paolo, all relative. I just hope for the club and fans sake as well as Coppell's that the financial situation does not impede them.

Probably not unless there is a clause in the contract termination of Evans. Bit like you being made redundant. Your ex employers cannot take on anyone to replace your role for six months. There are of course ways around that.

Rehabilitate? They've always been minnows

Happened quite quick!

Any chance ..... The Crawley owners have had this idea for a while, Fatty didnt like it so was rather grateful when the chance to jump ship came along?

Or do I need to get my imagination back under control?

Sounds quite feasible actually :hmmm:

It would appear the bubble hasn’t burst quite yet at Crawley, expect them to throw more cash about in the summer.

I feel the same, I can't work up as much ill feeling towards Crawley now he's gone! Rotherham however...

Just not as much as if they did go up, which I personally doubt they will. I still have a sneaky feeling Crewe will get into the playoffs and win it.

I was thinking (wierd I know!) about how many players/managers have stirred up so much hatred and anger amongst Swindon fans as much as is aimed at Mr Evans?

Avoiding the 6 fingered inbreds up the A420 such as Bumchump I can only really remember John McGinlay for his Bolton antics that has stirred up as much bile for Town fans. Yes there have been a few minor ones but none long lasting.

Steve Evans certainly doesn't wind me up.

He's filled in the gaps when there's been little to talk about.

If Crawley do go up, you can put your house on them coming straight back down again next season.  I actually feel quite sorry for Coppell.  Crawley Town?!  How ever did it come to this?


I know what you mean.  They key factor in winning the play offs is momentum, not position.

I thought we had the momentum against Mill.

I was thinking along the same lines too.

Most definatley, and Crewe do seem to be playing with some style and class and getting good results lately. The form of the others in the current play off places.....Creepy, Sarfend, Cheltnumb and Pox are all very much up and down, and down down in the case of Cheltnumb.

We went into the playoffs with 1 win in 6 games, so no we werent on a good run of form.

Yep

Like-able character or not, he's still a character. Most football managers are really quite boring, it's good to have some that make things a little more interesting even if they are 'orrible fat cunts. This for me has been one of the most entertaining season I can remember. That's mostly down to winning and PDC, but fatty Evans has played his part also.

that made me laugh - very direct, to the point & extremely funny

 With six games to go we were 2nd...unfortunately the pressure told and we ended up 5th....a lot can change in the last few games of a season.

Next in my pecking order of 'orrible cunts was Steve McMahon

'Get that scouser out!'

Apparently he is mates with one of the board, and they have trying to get him in for a while, so what you say does make sense.  Coppell has stated in the past he is done with management but not football so this all drops into place nicely for them really.

http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/oddballs/896103-crawley-town-players-burst-into-song-after-manager-steve-evans-leaves-club#ixzz1rw944kPT

I knew he was an odious fucker but seems his own players did too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=im1GzgQ_3zc

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17701015 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17701015)

Unbelievable - build a new 12K stadium, appoint Fatty as manager and the Premier League is in sight.
Always a small club with a small fan-base in an area with plenty of bigger rivals.
Unless they inject Wigan-type cash and lots of luck he's deluded.

Crawley may become less disliked than before.

but...not by me.

Article in today's FLP with Evans claiming he will make fans 'love him', then compares the situation with Wilson at Sheff Utd.

At least Wilson only had Blades fans to turn around...Most football fans hate Evans.

Don;t know if it was the same interview but he has also said he's the second most succesful manager behind Ferguson.

It must be awful knowing you are so close to Fergie in the silverware stakes, I mean Southern Football League Premier Division winners and twice the Conference title, thats a pretty amazing haul of medals IMO :D

I thought it was close as in obnoxiuos Scottish cunt be he'd win over fergie any day.

Oh yes!

We are not the self proclaimed champions we ARE the fucking champions you fat fuck!!

Well said that man!

a thousand times this

We've got Di canio, you've got a fat Cunt...

At least make it rhyme! :D

Wouldn't you just love to hit him with a shovel

Nope. I was thinking pick-axe!

I'd be happy to hit him with anything remotely study to be honest..

Sledge hammer.

You are not hitting him with my nob!

Ba dum tish!

knew someone would make a penis joke!

Steve Evans, isn't he that league 2 manager? I don't think we need concern ourselves with big mouth twats in the league below any more.

Skin him and drop the fat boy into a vat of salt and vinegar crisps

There's not a deep fat fryer big enough.

I thought he was the vat...

Why reward him with food?

VAT & Steve Evans don't go in the same paragraph.
Well unless its VAT cheat

Ha ha - reminds me of the Hoddle/Keagan spat when we all sang "hit him on the head with a baseball bat"

http://www.people.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/2012/05/27/woman-claims-soccer-manager-exposed-himself-102039-23874984/

It's hard not to expose yourself in public when your penis is attached to your head.

Another feather in his dirty, crooked cap.

Taken a while to come out

Throw a pallet of books at him!

Unlike his nob apparently

All she'd have seen was his gut

Maybe she got confused with a sausage roll from Greggs which he had in his pocket.

I wonder when was the last time evans saw his cock without the aid of a mirror?

He was probably just asking the lady if it was still there.

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

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Word has it the pressure is starting to get to Evans.....seen last week having a break on the South Yorkshire Moors.

Here he is in the 80s

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And he's not changed much in later life

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I think he's been on that Advanced Hair Studio stuff the Cricketers all rave about.

Cock like a budgies Tongue!

Bump.

Hes been at his tricks again then this time sexual abuse.

This man needs removing from society let alone football.

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/at-a-glance/main-section/rotherham-boss-faces-sex-probe-after-bradford-match-1-4896878

Confirming he was a wanker then

Sexual abuse?

He probably waved his nudger at her, at worst.

Get a grip.

That's what he said (allegedly)

Grip onto what? Ergo he's an innocent man... ;)

That was the match where both teams had that massive brawl and both clubs were fined wasn't it?

Waved it - he probably can't find it under his gut.

Maybe he waved at it  :bye:

maybe he tried a belly dance

Would you suck off steve evans if afterwards you were guaranteed a night of sex with kelly brook?

i would and i'd swallow.

No cos she's overrated.

Amber Heard on the other hand, I'd play Evans like a rusty trombone for a dart on that

I'd suck him off just to say I'd done it.

 :puke: :puke: :puke:

The Fat One is 4-1 down at Port Vale at half time.
I wonder if they are getting sick of him yet ?

A 6 match stadium ban, and fined £3000.
Rotherham must be sooo proud of him.

http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/Disciplinary/NewsAndFeatures/2012/steve-evans-charged-100912

They seem to think he got off lightly

http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=450&fid=215&sty=2&act=1&mid=2114116155

What a cunt.