Let's Get Political!

[Batch]

I'll put it on the viewing list

[RedRag]

If you missed out on Gammonbury this year, here's a bizarre extract

https://twitter.com/MartinDaubney/status/1145360597351055360?s=09

Wondering if any TEF posters can regale us with their first hand experience of the Brexit Party rally?

[Batch]

I assume the curfew was about 9:30 (with Horlix on exit) and the rally stopped for a bit while the Archers was boradcast.

[RedRag]

Elsewhere, job losses in the North East from the suppliers of Burgundy passports (that could've been blue all along) have been announced at 170.

These are the sort of job losses that are now commonly described as "worthwhile", even by former Conservative Remoaners like Hunt.

What's more, if No Dealers have their way, the UK will be paying tariffs on our new blue passports imported from the more competitive Dutch-German supplier.  The main objective of course remains to secure the approval of the 100k+ Conservative Party members.

[Exiled Bob]

......new blue passports imported from the more competitive Dutch-German supplier.

Brexiteers, putting the Great back in to Britain....

[Ardiles]

I never thought that, within my lifetime, I'd see the Tories abandon all attempts to be recognised as the party of business.  Even if they do manage to squeeze through the next few months, they are finished now in the longer term.  A Tory party that looks the voting public in the eye and tells them that job cuts are sacrifice worth making at a political altar no longer has a purpose.  It's the slowest of crashes, but it's unfolding right in front of us.

There are so many elephants jostling for position in the 'no deal' room that no one, least of all the EU's team of negotiators, seriously believes the 'no deal' bluster of both Tory party leadership candidates.  Prospects for a further referendum as the only way out of this are going up by the week.

[horlock07]

No we have reached the promising ever person a kitten to all for voting for them stage, both Johnson and Hunt have apparently uncovered a magic money forest!  Tax cuts yet billions being spunked left right and centre.

[Ardiles]

It's completely nuts.  In order to 'deliver Brexit', they have to start doing the very opposite of what their own party has been about for years.  It's just the same with the union.  If Scotland leaves and Ireland unites, it's a price worth paying.  Odd times for the Conservative & Unionist Party.  It's almost as if no-one has tried to think about what the end game is.

[RobertT]

Nigel's quite the snowflake isn't he?

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/jul/01/nigel-farage-furious-over-tv-show-assassinating-neil-fromage-year-of-the-rabbit

You'd think it must be time for a Spitting Image revival.

[horlock07]

Elsewhere, job losses in the North East from the suppliers of Burgundy passports (that could've been blue all along) have been announced at 170.

These are the sort of job losses that are now commonly described as "worthwhile", even by former Conservative Remoaners like Hunt.

What's more, if No Dealers have their way, the UK will be paying tariffs on our new blue passports imported from the more competitive Dutch-German supplier.  The main objective of course remains to secure the approval of the 100k+ Conservative Party members.

This is why all the bullshit about bringing the country together after no-deal won’t work: Nobody who actually loses their job or business is going to sit back and say ‘ah well, it was worth it to keep the Tory Party together and for my blue passport I can’t afford to use’.

[horlock07]

If you missed out on Gammonbury this year, here's a bizarre extract

https://twitter.com/MartinDaubney/status/1145360597351055360?s=09

Wondering if any TEF posters can regale us with their first hand experience of the Brexit Party rally?

Supported by a new British version of the Volkischer Beobachter

https://inews.co.uk/news/brexit/nig...4w8JYsDmIHepZECPbiNfy3hFU3IwyCEBGfNHVkvhR0sz4

[Reg Smeeton]

A Tory party that looks the voting public in the eye and tells them that job cuts are sacrifice worth making at a political altar no longer has a purpose.  It's the slowest of crashes, but it's unfolding right in front of us.

It's nothing new.... whole communities were sacrificed on the altar during the 80's.  The Tories are still the party of capital, land owners and foreign oligarchs looking for a good arms deal.

There is a certain irony that the leading Brexit voting areas like Swindon, suffered job cuts and the loss of traditional industries in the 80's and so wil be the worse affected by Brexit.  It was assumed people voted to become poorer in these as they felt "left behind" and poor anyway so nothing to lose.   Sadly they believed the snake oil salesmen and have plenty to lose.

[RedRag]

No we have reached the promising ever person a kitten to all for voting for them stage, both Johnson and Hunt have apparently uncovered a magic money forest!  Tax cuts yet billions being spunked left right and centre.

I leave the left:right arguments about public spending and taxation levels to the truly "political"

But surely the Conservatives recognise that the "war chest" about which their prospective leaders now talk of as available for "no deal" is nothing other than increased government borrowing.

Why not fcucking call it that?  Are they ashamed of their new-found, "socialist" rhetoric?

[pauld]

But surely the Conservatives recognise that the "war chest" about which their prospective leaders now talk of as available for "no deal" is nothing other than increased government borrowing.

Why not fcucking call it that?  Are they ashamed of their new-found, "socialist" rhetoric?

Not to mention the fact they're spending the same money (at least) twice. Both are talking about "headroom" to fund their increased spending plus tax reductions, but that "headroom" is the "war chest" set aside for the No Deal Brexit they both say they're prepared for and that many of their supporters actively want. Can't spend it on all your expensive bribes and then find there's no rainy day money left when it turns out you can't renegotiate the withdrawal agreement inside a couple of months - that money will all be burned up on No Deal.

[RobertT]

Sorry to go all local (for me), but just read what Trump said when asked about the Busing Policy used in the USA to breakdown segregation in schools in the 70's and 80's.  It appears he had no idea what it was, so instead of taking a moment or try and sidestep it, he went for the following answer:

"Well, it has been something that they've done for a long period of time. I mean, you know, there aren't that many ways you're going to get people to schools."

Sterling effort, go full ignorance and assume you have just been asked a question about good ways to get kids to school in the morning!  As a sort of innocent bystander, he is a gift that keeps on giving.