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« Reply #225 on: Sunday, March 15, 2009, 00:30:35 »

yeah, god forgive us for bothering to look after those unable to find a job in these difficult economic times. i'll cancel my jobseekers allowance immediately

That's ok, feel free.

Why do you think I should be forced to pay for your benefits under threat of violence if I don't (as in I will end up in prison if I don't pay my taxes)? If that's a moral argument and it is true for all people then there's no reason why if I am out of work I can't come round your parent's house and demand money from them under force of the law.

There are alternatives to the welfare state that involve voluntary action and charity. In fact you might get an inkling of how that works from the Sonic Youth tickets that you probably still have somewhere.
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« Reply #226 on: Sunday, March 15, 2009, 00:33:17 »

Have you had to eat the SY tickets yet youth?

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« Reply #227 on: Sunday, March 15, 2009, 00:34:24 »

Maybe it was Sid Vicious then. I really don't know what I know anymore.
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« Reply #228 on: Sunday, March 15, 2009, 00:35:20 »

errr... i'm not even going to try to respond to that. my new years resolution was to not get angry.

ben - no, i had to burn them to keep warm during the sub zero temperatures earlier this year.
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« Reply #229 on: Sunday, March 15, 2009, 00:35:34 »

Have you had to eat the SY tickets yet youth?



Ha ha ha hahahhah

Funny fucker
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« Reply #230 on: Sunday, March 15, 2009, 00:36:33 »

That's a shame. You could have used Alan's tax money to make a delicious creamy white wine sauce and had them with bacon and pasta.
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« Reply #231 on: Sunday, March 15, 2009, 00:37:18 »

Ha ha ha hahahhah

Funny fucker

Cheers, I try.

Have you checked out Me and Spacey's blog yet Alan? www.dawnofthejed.com

I know you love us.
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« Reply #232 on: Sunday, March 15, 2009, 00:38:21 »

That's a shame. You could have used Alan's tax money to make a delicious creamy white wine sauce and had them with bacon and pasta.

nah, i prefer to squander his tax money on frivolous things such as car insurance, diesel and various methods of communication which are quite important in being able to look for work and keep in touch with the missus
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« Reply #233 on: Sunday, March 15, 2009, 00:40:53 »

I need to sort out signing on.
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« Reply #234 on: Sunday, March 15, 2009, 00:41:53 »

I need to sort out signing on.

get a fucking job you timewasting cunt...
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« Reply #235 on: Sunday, March 15, 2009, 00:42:28 »

boooooo, i don't get ironside abuse anymore.
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« Reply #236 on: Sunday, March 15, 2009, 00:42:36 »

Alan seems to be a mish mash of liberalism and facism.

God no. Not fascism.

None of the state methods work very well at all. Mainly because the state is involved and it fucks up everything it touches. Nazism, fascism, communism, socialism. All proved (by history) to be hopeless. The only one that has ever been relatively successful is state capitalism. It's a model that the Chinese have realised provides more tax income - and hence wealthier leaders - than communism, so that's where they are headed.

I'm a libertarian, or to be more precise on the flavour, an anarcho-capitalist. A stateless society and a truly free market is my aim.

Anyway. Enough. See ya, it's been a good day apart from the result at Elland Road.
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« Reply #237 on: Sunday, March 15, 2009, 00:45:42 »

Haha ace. I wrote out a post saying that Alan is probably a Libertarian with some anarchism, but didn't want to belittle his views.

I did of course go on to say that he probably would like a bit of a strong government to do away with things that he doesn't like so it's probably more Alantarianism. It was that point I decided it was a better idea not to hit submit.

Not this time though!
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« Reply #238 on: Sunday, March 15, 2009, 00:49:47 »

Fuck me Paul that is very dismissive of your average Joe. We live in a democracy. Are you implying that people are so fucking stupid that we're sleepwalking into a nationalist state. If so, then you're making the assumption that the average Joe has lower intellect than you.
No, it's dismissive of Alan's complacency. And pointing out that such complacency can be potentially dangerous
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« Reply #239 on: Sunday, March 15, 2009, 00:51:00 »

by the way, if anyone would like to help me bypass the state welfare system i will accept all financial donations. it'll take me a while to save up to buy another plane ticket
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