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« Reply #1950 on: Monday, May 13, 2024, 19:05:49 »

When Charlie Austin said a few words at his acceptance of the MoM award at the last game, he took a look over his shoulder twee who was in the room from the Management before being very frank about the situation he found when he arrived from Australia.

Clearly, what he found on arrival wasn’t what he was ‘sold’. In fact it was quite the opposite.

It seemed that he only stayed to see out his contract as he owed it to the supporters.

He said one very telling thing. He warned the Management to be careful, very careful. There are a lot of big teams in The Conference.

There was a hint of bitterness in his manner mixed with genuine concern.
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« Reply #1951 on: Monday, May 13, 2024, 19:14:24 »

With the money Dale Vince was putting in to FGR I’d assume their budget was probably equal (or at least similar) to ours.

A couple of poor managerial appointments & they are heading to the National league, that’s what we have to be wary of.
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« Reply #1952 on: Monday, May 13, 2024, 19:23:53 »

When Charlie Austin said a few words at his acceptance of the MoM award at the last game, he took a look over his shoulder twee who was in the room from the Management before being very frank about the situation he found when he arrived from Australia.

Clearly, what he found on arrival wasn’t what he was ‘sold’. In fact it was quite the opposite.

It seemed that he only stayed to see out his contract as he owed it to the supporters.

He said one very telling thing. He warned the Management to be careful, very careful. There are a lot of big teams in The Conference.

There was a hint of bitterness in his manner mixed with genuine concern.

I thought it was common knowledge that he, and many others were sold a complete pup by the ownership?

Jody Morris another one judging by his interview he did a while back
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« Reply #1953 on: Monday, May 13, 2024, 19:29:29 »

Why did Austin sign a contract extension last summer then? Was it not obvious the lies ar that point? Or something changed this last season even further?

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« Reply #1954 on: Monday, May 13, 2024, 19:39:33 »

Why did Austin sign a contract extension last summer then? Was it not obvious the lies ar that point? Or something changed this last season even further?



New manager and more promises i would guess? Dodnt we have an option on his contract at the end of six months anyway?
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« Reply #1955 on: Monday, May 13, 2024, 19:41:13 »

Why did Austin sign a contract extension last summer then? Was it not obvious the lies ar that point? Or something changed this last season even further?



Perhaps it was an option or something similar.

I think enough people have come out of the club now saying or insinuating that what they were sold wasn’t the reality when they joined. Word gets around about things like that in football and I know we had debate earlier in the year about “no one will want to sign for us” but the reality of that statement (or at least what I took from it) isn’t in the literal sense of “there won’t be a single soul who wants to join us”, as January proved, but more so the issue that who does end up here will very likely be in either a situation where they have very little to no other offers, in a last chance saloon type situation or are confident they can get in quickly, get what they need and get out. Once a club gets a reputation like that to be avoided, it’s hard to shake.

Now the counter argument to that is that you can still find some gems that way (e.g Glatzel) and that’s probably what they’ll be hoping for but the reality is that you can’t build a club like that and you only get lucky for so long.
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« Reply #1956 on: Monday, May 13, 2024, 19:54:32 »

With the money Dale Vince was putting in to FGR I’d assume their budget was probably equal (or at least similar) to ours.

A couple of poor managerial appointments & they are heading to the National league, that’s what we have to be wary of.
Their budget far exceeded ours - about 60% higher.
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« Reply #1957 on: Tuesday, May 14, 2024, 09:30:01 »

Luke Garrad?
His style of football will not go down well with the football people running the club.

Route 1 is an understatement, which yes it can get good results and it did for him for a few years when it goes wrong there is nowhere else to go, hence him leaving Borehamwood recently with relegated to National League South.

That brand of football would make it difficult to attract young players who could improve under that style of football, which is probably why hes never been picked up by other clubs yet looking for a new young manager.
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« Reply #1958 on: Tuesday, May 14, 2024, 11:00:47 »

Perhaps it was an option or something similar.

I think enough people have come out of the club now saying or insinuating that what they were sold wasn’t the reality when they joined. Word gets around about things like that in football and I know we had debate earlier in the year about “no one will want to sign for us” but the reality of that statement (or at least what I took from it) isn’t in the literal sense of “there won’t be a single soul who wants to join us”, as January proved, but more so the issue that who does end up here will very likely be in either a situation where they have very little to no other offers, in a last chance saloon type situation or are confident they can get in quickly, get what they need and get out. Once a club gets a reputation like that to be avoided, it’s hard to shake.

Now the counter argument to that is that you can still find some gems that way (e.g Glatzel) and that’s probably what they’ll be hoping for but the reality is that you can’t build a club like that and you only get lucky for so long.

Not sure its a case of who will sign for us as there are players that will - but its the quality and type of player that will sign, decent players will likely look at the manager, and then want to know the clubs ambitions - and how much they are going to be paid
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« Reply #1959 on: Tuesday, May 14, 2024, 11:27:05 »

Struggling to muster enthusiasm for anything to do with this club.

The current structure, set up, investment and leadership means that anyone is doomed to fail.

Look how many people who are 'upper League 2 good enough' have looked garbage here within weeks, with many going on to better things.

Lindsey, Darcy, Conroy all in the play offs, Shade pulling up trees (ignore the pens!) at the top of the National League, McCarthy and FBT looking like carthorses at the back despite their known pedigree, Austin being run into the ground at 34 years old until Drinan took some of the heavy lifting on. There are so many examples.

I don't blame a single player, manager or coach who has been involved with this club since Ellis Iandolo's Vale Park pen for the state we are in. They are all on a free pass from me. It starts and ends with whoever is in the boardroom. Their decisions are manifested at every level of the club, from the Arkells toilets to our tip of a training ground, Basshunter laughing at us on our own channels and our final league position. I could go on and on. Wake me up when they are all gone.
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« Reply #1960 on: Tuesday, May 14, 2024, 11:44:37 »

Struggling to muster enthusiasm for anything to do with this club.

The current structure, set up, investment and leadership means that anyone is doomed to fail.

Look how many people who are 'upper League 2 good enough' have looked garbage here within weeks, with many going on to better things.

Lindsey, Darcy, Conroy all in the play offs, Shade pulling up trees (ignore the pens!) at the top of the National League, McCarthy and FBT looking like carthorses at the back despite their known pedigree, Austin being run into the ground at 34 years old until Drinan took some of the heavy lifting on. There are so many examples.

I don't blame a single player, manager or coach who has been involved with this club since Ellis Iandolo's Vale Park pen for the state we are in. They are all on a free pass from me. It starts and ends with whoever is in the boardroom. Their decisions are manifested at every level of the club, from the Arkells toilets to our tip of a training ground, Basshunter laughing at us on our own channels and our final league position. I could go on and on. Wake me up when they are all gone.

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« Reply #1961 on: Tuesday, May 14, 2024, 11:56:05 »

Struggling to muster enthusiasm for anything to do with this club.

The current structure, set up, investment and leadership means that anyone is doomed to fail.

Look how many people who are 'upper League 2 good enough' have looked garbage here within weeks, with many going on to better things.

Lindsey, Darcy, Conroy all in the play offs, Shade pulling up trees (ignore the pens!) at the top of the National League, McCarthy and FBT looking like carthorses at the back despite their known pedigree, Austin being run into the ground at 34 years old until Drinan took some of the heavy lifting on. There are so many examples.

I don't blame a single player, manager or coach who has been involved with this club since Ellis Iandolo's Vale Park pen for the state we are in. They are all on a free pass from me. It starts and ends with whoever is in the boardroom. Their decisions are manifested at every level of the club, from the Arkells toilets to our tip of a training ground, Basshunter laughing at us on our own channels and our final league position. I could go on and on. Wake me up when they are all gone.

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« Reply #1962 on: Tuesday, May 14, 2024, 12:00:54 »

But the owners do not make the decisions on substitutes during a match. Some of them have been blind sided and cost us games.
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« Reply #1963 on: Tuesday, May 14, 2024, 12:18:04 »

But the owners do not make the decisions on substitutes during a match. Some of them have been blind sided and cost us games.

They do decide who makes those subs though
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« Reply #1964 on: Tuesday, May 14, 2024, 12:30:19 »

But the owners do not make the decisions on substitutes during a match. Some of them have been blind sided and cost us games.

With appearance fees and details of loan agreements and things like that, I'm not so sure that is always the case.
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