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« Reply #105 on: Tuesday, March 21, 2023, 15:52:11 »

As others have said, the 'moneyball' philosophy isn't necessarily wrong, just our approach on it has been. We've been too money-ball and have too high a % of players in the squad as 'players to develop.' Players will develop more by playing well and winning games than making mistakes and conceding crap goals (knocking confidence by not winning games).

The spine of the team is missing - regardless of developing talent, every good team has a big physical centre half, a ball-winning experienced midfielder and a striker who can put the ball in the back of the net. We have 1 out of the 3. Even the GK I'm not too convinced on - excellent shot stopper but how many of the corners that we've conceded have been free headers within the 6-yard box? Perhaps it wouldn't be as exposed if we had an Aidan Flint type centre half who wins the header at every corner, but some blame has to be portioned on Brynn IMO.

The frustrating thing is that there is clearly young talent in the squad (Clayton, Lavinier, Hutton, McEachran, Wakeling, Shade to an extent, Hepburn-Murphy), but they don't have the wise experienced heads to help them develop and help them to see out games. I don't think we're too many players short from having a promotion-capable squad, the issue is that the 4-5 that we need would be high-earners that the club clearly doesn't want to fund.
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« Reply #106 on: Tuesday, March 21, 2023, 15:59:03 »

You have pretty much regurgitated what I said

With more content😀
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« Reply #107 on: Tuesday, March 21, 2023, 16:08:09 »

With more content😀

Carrot chunks?
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« Reply #108 on: Tuesday, March 21, 2023, 16:10:04 »

Carrot chunks?

They make you see in the dark!
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« Reply #109 on: Tuesday, March 21, 2023, 16:24:44 »

Good explanation about the goals conceded from corners recently - Morris has previous!

https://www.totalswindon.com/sport/why-are-swindon-town-conceding-from-so-many-corners/
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« Reply #110 on: Tuesday, March 21, 2023, 16:38:29 »

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Whilst many have said that the zonal marking is the issue, marking zonally is a good way of mitigating against having a smaller team as you get rid of one-v-one matchups

By replacing them with one-v-noone?!
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« Reply #111 on: Tuesday, March 21, 2023, 17:04:09 »

Zonal marking may work for more experienced players but we're very good at leaving spaces for opposition players to move into unchallenged!
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« Reply #112 on: Tuesday, March 21, 2023, 19:39:09 »

By replacing them with one-v-noone?!

Yeah, what horseshit.

We have a small team so rather than going 1 v 1 - we will stand in a line and not only leave the bigger players free but give them a chance to get a running start into the box whilst we stand there like lemons.

Even if it’s 5ft 6 player v a 6ft 6 player - you’ve just got more chance of stopping him scoring by marking him - just be getting inthe way, putting him off, standing on his toes - or just giving him something extra to think about. If he’s being man marked he’s thinking about his own movement to try and lose his marker whilst also trying to concentrate on the ball coming in.
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« Reply #113 on: Wednesday, March 22, 2023, 10:31:34 »

Yeah, what horseshit.

We have a small team so rather than going 1 v 1 - we will stand in a line and not only leave the bigger players free but give them a chance to get a running start into the box whilst we stand there like lemons.

Even if it’s 5ft 6 player v a 6ft 6 player - you’ve just got more chance of stopping him scoring by marking him - just be getting inthe way, putting him off, standing on his toes - or just giving him something extra to think about. If he’s being man marked he’s thinking about his own movement to try and lose his marker whilst also trying to concentrate on the ball coming in.

This.

You don't need to win the header. Just put them off enough so that it's not a clean contact. Will have to be something pretty special to score in that scenario. Unlike the gifts we've been giving.
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« Reply #114 on: Wednesday, March 22, 2023, 10:36:24 »

Also, having blokes properly on the post. The 4th Rochdale goal and 2nd Carlisle goal are likely prevented if there is someone there doing a job.
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« Reply #115 on: Wednesday, March 22, 2023, 10:47:50 »

Interesting article about defending set pieces here and the dying art of defending posts and man marking etc.

https://thesetpieces.com/latest-posts/dying-art-sticking-man-posts/
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« Reply #116 on: Wednesday, March 22, 2023, 12:18:46 »

Yeah, what horseshit.

We have a small team so rather than going 1 v 1 - we will stand in a line and not only leave the bigger players free but give them a chance to get a running start into the box whilst we stand there like lemons.

Even if it’s 5ft 6 player v a 6ft 6 player - you’ve just got more chance of stopping him scoring by marking him - just be getting inthe way, putting him off, standing on his toes - or just giving him something extra to think about. If he’s being man marked he’s thinking about his own movement to try and lose his marker whilst also trying to concentrate on the ball coming in.

Agree.

Anyway zones don't score goals, players do.
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« Reply #117 on: Wednesday, March 22, 2023, 13:27:12 »

Agree.

Anyway zones don't score goals, players do.

A bit like guns and rappers..
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« Reply #118 on: Wednesday, March 22, 2023, 15:49:26 »

Watched Bannon sweep the ball in last night for Wednesday and they had the likes of Flint, Gregory and Smith all running on mass to the 6 yard box.
Know a few Owls fans who are comfortable with the style of play as they want out of League One.
They have assembled a side equipped to bully their way out of it and still reckon they will win their respective league this season.

My point being we would not stand a chance against their system. Barnsley were equally a big dominant side. Watching that was brutal football.

I was standing in the Orient Supporters Club a few weeks back and one of their fans came in after the Swindon team coach pulled up, along the lines of. “Bloody hell they are a team of kids, never seen such a young and small looking team.”

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« Reply #119 on: Wednesday, March 22, 2023, 15:56:14 »

Watched Bannon sweep the ball in last night for Wednesday and they had the likes of Flint, Gregory and Smith all running on mass to the 6 yard box.
Know a few Owls fans who are comfortable with the style of play as they want out of League One.
They have assembled a side equipped to bully their way out of it and still reckon they will win their respective league this season.

My point being we would not stand a chance against their system. Barnsley were equally a big dominant side. Watching that was brutal football.

I was standing in the Orient Supporters Club a few weeks back and one of their fans came in after the Swindon team coach pulled up, along the lines of. “Bloody hell they are a team of kids, never seen such a young and small looking team.”



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