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« Reply #18765 on: Thursday, July 3, 2025, 16:19:29 »

Which no journalist with an ounce of integrity or self respect would do. Are the presser blogs behind the paywall as most STFC related Adver stuff tends to be anyway as if so not sure how many actually see it anyway.

The pre match press conf blog is never behind their paywall, post match is never blogged
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« Reply #18766 on: Thursday, July 3, 2025, 17:12:35 »

But remember, they are "Open & Transparent"  Wink
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« Reply #18767 on: Thursday, July 3, 2025, 19:21:28 »

We will still get it, just not live. No suggestion of censorship.

Not sure what kicked all this off though. Seems a bit odd.
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« Reply #18768 on: Thursday, July 3, 2025, 19:45:25 »

It had been a few weeks since the club had truly shambolic. Almost felt like a normal club for a minute.
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« Reply #18769 on: Thursday, July 3, 2025, 20:24:35 »

Holloway has made snide remarks about Joe on several occasions. Suspect he doesn't like the fact that Joe's not enamoured by the complete shit that comes out his mouth for 20 minutes before he actually makes a point.
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« Reply #18770 on: Thursday, July 3, 2025, 23:02:04 »

ASD has come out on social media then with a mini attack on Morfuni and co

Correct me if i'm wrong but wasn't this bloke relentlessly pushing the 'we have our club back' narrative for months on end when returning on socials. Didn't seem to have much to say about Clem then?

Then radio silence for 3 years now this.

I just find it a bit odd. If you have something to say about the regime from 3 years ago then come out and say it. What good is it now.



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« Reply #18771 on: Thursday, July 3, 2025, 23:05:39 »

Be fair, most of us thought Clem was a clean (ish) break and a good person to take over.

It's a pretty common theme.

I get the 'why now'. Can only think he was looking for a job and doing that kind of thing isn't helpful to that. But idk.
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« Reply #18772 on: Thursday, July 3, 2025, 23:16:08 »

Be fair, most of us thought Clem was a clean (ish) break and a good person to take over.

It's a pretty common theme.

I get the 'why now'. Can only think he was looking for a job and doing that kind of thing isn't helpful to that. But idk.

Of course, it's a very fair viewpoint from those with no involvement within the club.

His tweets are very strongly worded though, to the extent that the things that he is describing must've been apparent from very early on.

I just don't see the point personally. We could've done with him speaking up back in 2022, not after everybody already knows what a shit show we are.
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« Reply #18773 on: Friday, July 4, 2025, 02:21:16 »

He was probably under an NDA or something.

He is living in NYC now
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« Reply #18774 on: Friday, July 4, 2025, 08:44:38 »

So what has he said?
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« Reply #18775 on: Friday, July 4, 2025, 09:24:27 »

So what has he said?

This is the start of a very slippery slope. Also proves the club / ownership are paranoid as hell.

I worked under Clem. He had no understanding of how the media works, and probably still doesn’t. No leadership, no direction. This won’t be Callum’s fault, either. Let me be clear, This all comes from the top. Dating back to when I was at the club, staff members with experience, knowledge and passion were never listened to, instead treated as pests and as threats.  This was always going to happen, sadly. Clem is out of his depth. Period. Feel for Joe-Adver
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« Reply #18776 on: Friday, July 4, 2025, 09:36:17 »

He was probably under an NDA or something.

From whom, did he ever work at the club formally?
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« Reply #18777 on: Friday, July 4, 2025, 09:38:49 »

So would you rather him have not said anything now if you don't see the point?  People talk when they feel they can talk..  If Rob Angus came out now and gave insight into what he was actually going through at the time, would you say what's the point and have the same view?

A lot of people just don't want to be dragged back into the rhetoric so keep quiet, until something happens that triggers them to speak.  Plus with our club there is the added risk of Adam Hart and his buddies showing up on your doorstep, it's not like there isn't amy history of that right..
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« Reply #18778 on: Friday, July 4, 2025, 09:40:25 »

From whom, did he ever work at the club formally?

He was the media officer the first year of Clem (and once before under Power) I think? Then moved to the US.
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« Reply #18779 on: Friday, July 4, 2025, 09:46:48 »

So would you rather him have not said anything now if you don't see the point?  People talk when they feel they can talk..  If Rob Angus came out now and gave insight into what he was actually going through at the time, would you say what's the point and have the same view?

A lot of people just don't want to be dragged back into the rhetoric so keep quiet, until something happens that triggers them to speak.  Plus with our club there is the added risk of Adam Hart and his buddies showing up on your doorstep, it's not like there isn't amy history of that right..

People can say what they like and people can and will believe what they like.

However, from a quick google the dates with ASD do not remotely line up, from his own LinkedIn he was at the club Aug 16 - Aug 18 (and appears to have had fuck all to do with local journalism since then - going into something to do with GP's in London) so c.3 years before Morfuni took over?

Not saying that it isn't a total shit show, but there are so many people on the periphery (At best and not including the bullshite from the club) from all sides of this sorry mess who seem to be making stuff up its nigh impossible to decide who to believe, its getting to the stage that probably no one is the most reliable answer.

I can't see RA ever coming out with much 'cos a) potentially he was party to it and b) if he ever wanted a senior managerial role anywhere again it would be career suicide to do so.
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