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« Reply #18225 on: Tuesday, May 13, 2025, 11:56:09 »

Has the matchday ticket price been announced yet or are they still top secret ?
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« Reply #18226 on: Tuesday, May 13, 2025, 12:02:51 »

Has the matchday ticket price been announced yet or are they still top secret ?

Not seen anything - so I don't know how many free games I'm getting.
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« Reply #18227 on: Tuesday, May 13, 2025, 14:30:11 »

500 seems like a very high number and I think the number of people using it instead of a ST (it's cheaper than a ST) would be higher than 30%.

I’ve been told that it’s in excess of 200 Nationwide tickets per game (based on that I’d assume less than 300).

Would mean that you would need about 60% buying full price to be in the “losing money” category
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« Reply #18228 on: Tuesday, May 13, 2025, 14:39:25 »

I’ve been told that it’s in excess of 200 Nationwide tickets per game

Far fewer than I thought!

Based on 250, just need to make up the 100K Nationwide 35k and ticket sales brought in.
I think you'd neeed 75-80% of retained Nationwide sales alone. But new sponsorship may be lucrative.

That's not apportioning blame. It could be Nationwide's decision alone, or the club tried to sweat them too much, who knows.
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« Reply #18229 on: Tuesday, May 13, 2025, 16:09:14 »

Far fewer than I thought!

Based on 250, just need to make up the 100K Nationwide 35k and ticket sales brought in.
I think you'd neeed 75-80% of retained Nationwide sales alone. But new sponsorship may be lucrative.

That's not apportioning blame. It could be Nationwide's decision alone, or the club tried to sweat them too much, who knows.


Same person told me the club wanted to negotiate & Nationwide weren't interested.
I'm guessing the club said, carry on giving us the money but you can't have discounted tickets for your employees, and Nationwide said FUCK OFF (possibly more politely)

Also was told that some at Nationwide were taking the piss by buying groups of tickets not sticking to the two per employee. You would have thought it would be fairly easy to regulate (using an employee number for example), but I guess that would cost money to implement, and we know that this lot won't spend anything unless they absolutely have to.
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« Reply #18230 on: Tuesday, May 13, 2025, 16:43:18 »

I found my 2001-2 season ticket - £299 that's £553 now !!!!
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« Reply #18231 on: Tuesday, May 13, 2025, 16:44:30 »

They did close the unlimited ticket loophole this season, to be fair

They also went about 5 seasons before making employees re-register - meaning loads of ex employees could still buy the cheap tickets
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« Reply #18232 on: Tuesday, May 13, 2025, 16:46:08 »

They did close the unlimited ticket loophole this season, to be fair

They also went about 5 seasons before making employees re-register - meaning loads of ex employees could still buy the cheap tickets

Its reasonable to assume the club may have a point given the lost value right? Though perhaps STFC should have been closing these loopholes previously.
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« Reply #18233 on: Tuesday, May 13, 2025, 19:43:00 »

I found my 2001-2 season ticket - £299 that's £553 now !!!!

I bought a season ticket just once, for the Prem season in 1993/94.  On the Stratton Bank.  It cost me £156...which would be £336 in today's prices.  (I can't remember if there was a student rate then.)
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« Reply #18234 on: Tuesday, May 13, 2025, 19:49:08 »

Its reasonable to assume the club may have a point given the lost value right? Though perhaps STFC should have been closing these loopholes previously.
Quite possibly. Depends how many stop coming now!

I've always found it a bit odd it was cheaper than a season ticket but assumed the sponsorship made up the shortfall.

Not bitter though. We need all the fans we can get.

Still as I said, if new sponsorship covers it then it's just a shame but at least we don't have another hole to plug.
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« Reply #18235 on: Tuesday, May 13, 2025, 21:02:57 »

Its reasonable to assume the club may have a point given the lost value right? Though perhaps STFC should have been closing these loopholes previously.

Well, yes. But the most cost effective way would have been to put the controls in place to prevent it from happening. But that would take competence
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« Reply #18236 on: Wednesday, May 14, 2025, 10:52:27 »

An update that was sent to members last week, shared with the masses
https://truststfc.com/2025/05/14/may-update/
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« Reply #18237 on: Wednesday, May 14, 2025, 11:18:42 »

An update that was sent to members last week, shared with the masses
https://truststfc.com/2025/05/14/may-update/

If the turnout is 49% and of those 74% support the proposals (under the trusts rules), Would it then be considered reasonable or unreasonable (under JV rules) for the trust to seek to block the proposals?

 
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« Reply #18238 on: Wednesday, May 14, 2025, 11:38:45 »

Would depend if those rules were known at the point the agreement between the parties was made.  It was, after all, a fan who funded the purchase the ground, not the business/club.

From memory, the business plan usually gets a good number of response's, so I presume we should expect a ground development to also get well above the required minimum vote threshold.
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« Reply #18239 on: Wednesday, May 14, 2025, 11:54:11 »

If the turnout is 49% and of those 74% support the proposals (under the trusts rules), Would it then be considered reasonable or unreasonable (under JV rules) for the trust to seek to block the proposals?

Those are the thresholds as set (well, 50% and 75%) and thresholds have to be set somewhere. Let us hope that whatever result there is, it's significantly more conclusive than this - my nightmare scenario is say 48% turnout, 80% in favour and that's a no.

I suspect it'll not be close, but we'll see.
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