Coronavirus

[pauld]

Barnet have put all of their non-playing staff on notice of redundancy due to coronavirus. They won't be the last and this won't be the worst of it.

https://trainingground.guru/articles/all-barnet-staff-laid-off-because-of-coronavirus-pandemic

[horlock07]

You have got to love the guy....

https://twitter.com/JamesMilner/status/1239954319425720320

[Sippo]

Are you just choosing to ignore what others have already said?

It is expected to be FAR worse than the flu. It could kill A LOT of people. Potentially hundreds of thousands in the UK alone. Perhaps even more.

What is it about that that you can't understand? Genuine question.

I don’t know. Maybe I am trying to think positive and don’t understand why all the panic stations. I understand it’s serious but maybe a bit naive on how serious it is. Everyone I speak to seems to think we are over reacting.

[horlock07]

Barnet have put all of their non-playing staff on notice of redundancy due to coronavirus. They won't be the last and this won't be the worst of it.

https://trainingground.guru/articles/all-barnet-staff-laid-off-because-of-coronavirus-pandemic

Mentioned 2 pages back  keep up at the back.

[pauld]

Mentioned 2 pages back  keep up at the back.

Doh!

[StfcRusty]

I don’t know. Maybe I am trying to think positive and don’t understand why all the panic stations. I understand it’s serious but maybe a bit naive on how serious it is. Everyone I speak to seems to think we are over reacting.

This is why I fear so many people will die.

Thinking positively will not prevent the spread.  Lockdowns will only slow infection rates if a vaccine is at least a year away.
Think about our population size and what it means if the majority get infected, which they inevitably will. Hospitals simply wouldn’t have the staff, beds or essential equipment to cope with the elderly or vulnerable people who will need medical attention. If the virus doesn’t kill them, the lack of specialist care will.

If you have grandparents or older parents, it’s really important you and everyone reading takes as many preventative measures as possible to slow the spread.

[Nemo]

Rishi Sunak is giving the press conference Boris should have given yesterday. Money for every business, guaranteed loans with no interest, suspending business rates. Three month mortgage holidays for anyone struggling with payments.

This is fucking action, not "we don't think you should go to the pub".

I realise it's not hard to look like a leader stood next to Johnson but this is how it's done.

[pauld]

Rishi Sunak is giving the press conference Boris should have given yesterday. Money for every business, guaranteed loans with no interest, suspending business rates. Three month mortgage holidays for anyone struggling with payments.

This is fucking action, not "we don't think you should go to the pub".

I realise it's not hard to look like a leader stood next to Johnson but this is how it's done.

Indeed. £330bn in total, hopefully means we might have some kind of economy once we come out of all this.

[pauld]

Rishi Sunak is giving the press conference Boris should have given yesterday. Money for every business, guaranteed loans with no interest, suspending business rates. Three month mortgage holidays for anyone struggling with payments.

This is fucking action, not "we don't think you should go to the pub".

I realise it's not hard to look like a leader stood next to Johnson but this is how it's done.

Has he said anything particular to help out the entertainment/catering sector?

[Nemo]

Has he said anything particular to help out the entertainment/catering sector?

I think so. Talked about tax relief, grants for leisure and hospitality businesses, which I guess is broadly the same thing? Will need to wait for the detail but the theme of what he's saying is the Govt will support everything.

[Audrey]

Is the International community in general going to exert pressure on China to get rid of these disgusting ‘wet markets’ - the alleged starting point of Coronavirus?

There is a YouTube video doing the rounds of a girl eating a live chicken. I’d post it but, IMO, it’s too stomach churning.

[RobertT]

This is why I fear so many people will die.

Thinking positively will not prevent the spread.  Lockdowns will only slow infection rates if a vaccine is at least a year away.
Think about our population size and what it means if the majority get infected, which they inevitably will. Hospitals simply wouldn’t have the staff, beds or essential equipment to cope with the elderly or vulnerable people who will need medical attention. If the virus doesn’t kill them, the lack of specialist care will.

If you have grandparents or older parents, it’s really important you and everyone reading takes as many preventative measures as possible to slow the spread.

Precisely - Italy is now seeing over 200 deaths a day, a nation of similar size to the UK.  Even if they stalled the rate of increase now, that would be a much bigger impact than flu has.  Now remember that Italy has been in complete lock down for a week, not just asking people not to pop to the pub.  The reality is that if they hadn't taken action you could well expect that death rate to continue rising each day as well.  The good news is that Lombardy has actually seen a small decline in rate of increase now, so it does seem the lock down is beginning to have an impact (with a 14 day incubation period you can probably expect another week or two of bad news).

If the UK just let everyone carry on about their business, we'd be at 200+ deaths a day within a week from now, but we wouldn't have done anything to stop that rate of increase.  Italy has already shown the world that treating this like flu means you have about 4 weeks before you find yourself in a far worse daily situation than Flu has given us since the 60's, and the type of mortality rate that the 1918 Flu brought with it.  So yes, it could be just like that flu - fucking catastrophic.  We know enough these days to pause the spread and get vaccine's out to prevent 1918 from happening this time, thankfully.  BUT, ignoring it is not the way we do that.

[pauld]

Is the International community in general going to exert pressure on China to get rid of these disgusting ‘wet markets’ - the alleged starting point of Coronavirus?

Not just China, plenty of countries in the developing world have these kind of live animal markets. And "almost certainly not" is the answer I'd imagine, but you're right they should do

[pauld]

I think so. Talked about tax relief, grants for leisure and hospitality businesses, which I guess is broadly the same thing? Will need to wait for the detail but the theme of what he's saying is the Govt will support everything.

Hope there's support in there for folks on zero hours contracts as well. A lot of those people are on the edge anyway and foodbanks are already struggling to cope.

[RobertT]

These are strange times, the USA is on the verge of giving people financial assistance and subsidising private enterprise!  They'll be offering the vaccine and treatment free at point of care soon......Oh!