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« Reply #9420 on: Saturday, January 7, 2023, 21:06:20 »

So, what did we learn from this? 
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« Reply #9421 on: Saturday, January 7, 2023, 21:08:53 »

A you tuber who is selective in what information he provides and makes lots of money through viewing figures!
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« Reply #9422 on: Saturday, January 7, 2023, 21:21:49 »

Far from moron, clicks mean money.

Of course. Which is what is so tragic about this kind of grift. If these two are anything to go by, he knowingly makes nonsense videos out of absolutely nothing, veiled under a cloak of credibility by being a “dr” (sounds like that is up for debate), which his deluded disciples lap up because it confirms their ill founded suspicions that Covid is a global cover up.

In which case…maybe weapons grade cunt is more apt.
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« Reply #9423 on: Saturday, January 7, 2023, 22:20:56 »

Having a decent following and being a doctor doesn’t necessarily make you a good analyst.

If you were digging into these numbers, anyone with any kind of credibility would be looking for data further back to check pre pandemic numbers (was one year pre pandemic representative generally? A few more years data would help) to make better sense of the supposed huge increase in the last few years and questioning whether that was a legit rise or not. Rather than essentially saying ‘here’s a very select set of data that “someone” has given me, look at the increase…hmmm’.

Then you’d sense check those numbers and think “1 in 7 of the population going to hospital for heart trouble in the last few years, does feel right”? As I said, I’m no doctor, but just thinking about the street I live on, has someone from every 3rd household been in hospital for a heart problem recently? Absolutely not. Do people go to hospital at that kind of rate for any reason at all? I really doubt it.

So you’d question those numbers…there’s so many variables in how those kind of things could be counted, collated and reported that you don’t know from that at all, that again, anyone worth their salt would be looking into much more deeply before suggesting anything, first.

I feel the grift is strong with this one.

As someone who spent part of my career as an analyst in a clinical audit and research team at an acute hospital trust, helping doctors and other clinicians design date collection tools and analyse and present data, I can confirm that a medical degree is no guarantee whatsoever of having any grasp of statistics (particularly around probability as several overturned infanticide verdicts based on expert medical testimony shows).

Public health consultants are generally lots better as they have to have some grasp of epidemiology. Hospital consultants (particularly surgeons for some reason) the worst. I think it's to do with specialising into a very narrow field of expertise.

Matey in the video has seized gleefully on something that seems to confirm a pre-conceived idea and not at any stage thought, "Hold on that  looks a bit odd? Are we sure tens of thousands of people locally are arriving at hospital with heart failure each year and only a couple of hundred are getting discharged. WTF happened to the rest of them?"

A bit embarrassing for the Trust that issued the response to the FOI. The BI team want their arses kicking for not sense checking their outputs.

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« Reply #9424 on: Saturday, January 7, 2023, 22:34:03 »

As someone who spent part of my career as an analyst in a clinical audit and research team at an acute hospital trust, helping doctors and other clinicians design date collection tools and analyse and present data, I can confirm that a medical degree is no guarantee whatsoever of having any grasp of statistics (particularly around probability as several overturned infanticide verdicts based on expert medical testimony shows).

Public health consultants are generally lots better as they have to have some grasp of epidemiology. Hospital consultants (particularly surgeons for some reason) the worst. I think it's to do with specialising into a very narrow field of expertise.

Matey in the video has seized gleefully on something that seems to confirm a pre-conceived idea and not at any stage thought, "Hold on that  looks a bit odd? Are we sure tens of thousands of people locally are arriving at hospital with heart failure each year and only a couple of hundred are getting discharged. WTF happened to the rest of them?"

A bit embarrassing for the Trust that issued the response to the FOI. The BI team want their arses kicking for not sense checking their outputs.



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« Reply #9425 on: Sunday, January 8, 2023, 01:56:20 »

He seems to get rather confused when presenting, he's earning a living out of it so it's not all bad for him.
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« Reply #9426 on: Sunday, January 8, 2023, 07:11:42 »

A you tuber who is selective in what information he provides and makes lots of money through viewing figures!
viewing figures and a donation operation to allow him to keep doing this top level research.
It's annoyingly close to Alex Jones perpetual "there's a war on, give me money to help expose them" and the escalation of issues from there
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« Reply #9427 on: Sunday, January 8, 2023, 07:12:57 »

The data is categorically and laughably wrong. Here’s the corrected data, which is a minute fraction of the bungled numbers that bloke talked through, without batting an eyelid. Not only are they tiny, they’re not even going in the right direction to support their theory.

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/923927/response/2202123/attach/html/2/652%2022%20FOI%20Response%20revised.xlsx.html
I was going for a best case scenario tbh. Even if the numbers he's saying may be true, you cannot infer anything meaningful from them
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« Reply #9428 on: Monday, January 9, 2023, 09:40:25 »

viewing figures and a donation operation to allow him to keep doing this top level research.
It's annoyingly close to Alex Jones perpetual "there's a war on, give me money to help expose them" and the escalation of issues from there

Its how conspiracy grifters work though isn't it, don't really say anything new instead feed into the ingrained fears and suspicions that some people already hold and just tickle them along for personal gain. Its how people like Jones and Yaxley Lennon have, and continue to, make small fortunes and covid is just another opportunity.

An acquaintance* of mines brother is deep into flat earth stuff and its quite scary some of the stuff he believes and shares on social media.

* He moved from friend to acquaintance when he himself descended deep into what our Tommee was spouting, he seems to have rather rowed back on that now.
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