Let's Get Political!

[Combe Up]

You believe in your own interpretation of democracy, and nothing more.  We've been round this point so many times now that it's getting boring...but SM & CU membership were never on the ballot.  This is a fact.

The rest of your post is irrelevant and meaningless.

The views of over a 1.2 million people majority - irrelevant and meaningless !!!

I am still counting those people. One per second remember. Tick tock.

[brocklesby red]

I believe in being able to change a result of a shit decision. imagine applying a 'can't change your mind' rule to every day life. good grief.

It would cut the divorce rate down for starters

[Ardiles]

OK.  I'm going to have to spell this out for you.

The 17.4m Leave voters did not all vote for the same version of Leave.  Some (like you) voted to also leave the SM & CU; and others did not.

The UK leaves the EU.  That is established.  But there is no majority to leave the SM & CU, and there never has been.

[Legends-Lounge]

You believe in your own interpretation of democracy, and nothing more.  We've been round this point so many times now that it's getting boring...but SM & CU membership were never on the ballot.  This is a fact.

The rest of your post is irrelevant and meaningless.

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You believe in your own interpretation of democracy, and nothing more. As do you sir....

The rest of your post is irrelevant and meaningless. As is yours in effect.

There are those amongst you with your left wing remainer stance who quote The Guardian, Independent and other left leaning papers as if it is the gospel. Yet when others who are of the opposite views quote right leaning papers they are shouted down or derided. You cannot have it both ways. If you wish others to take your opinions seriously you have to give the same back.

[Shrivvy Road]

This thread is actually a prime example of the problems we have. People talking to each other like absolute cunts if they have a differing opinion.

[Batch]

There are those amongst you with your left wing remainer stance who quote The Guardian, Independent and other left leaning papers as if it is the gospel. Yet when others who are of the opposite views quote right leaning papers they are shouted down or derided. You cannot have it both ways. If you wish others to take your opinions seriously you have to give the same back.

That's what happens when both sides have such strong views and no strong majority. Not any wng myself though, don't read newspapers at all either. And I sure as hell can't have got remain influenced by the BBC! Must be individual thought.

This thread is actually a prime example of the problems we have. People talking to each other like absolute cunts if they have a differing opinion.

Right, May talks about pulling the country together - too late.

[jayohaitchenn]

That’s a load of codswallop. Leave voters knew full well that leaving meant leaving the single market and customs union- even Cameron said it.

She’s another MP trying desperately to over ride a Democratic vote for her own ends

Revisionist nonsense.

There is a free trade zone stretching from Iceland to Turkey that all European nations have access to, regardless of whether they are in or out of the euro or EU. After we vote to leave we will remain in this zone.

The suggestion that Bosnia, Serbia, Albania and the Ukraine would stay part of this free trade area - and Britain would be on the outside with just Belarus - is as credible as Jean-Claude Juncker joining UKIP.

Agreeing to maintain this continental free trade zone is the simple course and emphatically in everyone’s interests.

To repeat, absolutely nobody is talking about threatening our place in the single market. 

We argue for things which are utterly achievable in the EEA and make no mention at all of leaving the single market

Only a madman would actually leave the Market

Wouldn't it be terrible if we were really like Norway and Switzerland? Really? They're rich. They're happy. They're self-governing

Increasingly, the Norway option looks the best for the UK

[Ardiles]

There are those amongst you with your left wing remainer stance who quote The Guardian, Independent and other left leaning papers as if it is the gospel. Yet when others who are of the opposite views quote right leaning papers they are shouted down or derided. You cannot have it both ways. If you wish others to take your opinions seriously you have to give the same back.

Sorry you feel that way, genuinely.  But I have tried in recent posts on this thread to stick to the facts...those being that CU & SM membership are not inextricably linked to EU membership (ask Turkey or Norway).  I am simply challenging the stance put forward by some that the vote in 2016 to leave the EU was also a vote to leave the SM & CU.  It was not, either legally - or in any other sense.

Time to step back from the fray, I agree.  This is going nowhere.

[Berniman]

This thread is actually a prime example of the problems we have. People talking to each other like absolute cunts if they have a differing opinion.

Spot on

[Reg Smeeton]

Sorry you feel that way, genuinely.  But I have tried in recent posts on this thread to stick to the facts...those being that CU & SM membership are not inextricably linked to EU membership (ask Turkey or Norway).  I am simply challenging the stance put forward by some that the vote in 2016 to leave the EU was also a vote to leave the SM & CU.  It was not, either legally - or in any other sense.

Time to step back from the fray, I agree.  This is going nowhere.

Stick with it... the more you talk about something, try and explain, the more chance there is of overcoming entrenched positions, sometimes it can be a slow process.

[jayohaitchenn]

An overwhelming(!) majority are now against democracy!

https://news.sky.com/story/sky-data-poll-53-of-british-public-want-second-eu-referendum-11584278

[Batch]

But its the will of the people.

Disappointingly weak majority that.

[Ardiles]

But its the will of the people.

Disappointingly weak majority that.

It's stronger than it looks at first sight.  The breakdown is 53% for a 2nd referendum; 36% against; and 11% don't know/undecided.

Not sure where I stand on that question, to be honest.  Probably in favour on balance, but with reservations.

[horlock07]

But its the will of the people.

Disappointingly weak majority that.

FWIW many are not in favour of a 'new' referendum, they merely want a repeat referendum to be held that is not mired in lies, criminal acts, foreign interference and bollocks.

[Batch]

Ah, I see