Let's Get Political!

[ron dodgers]

our political parties, not that different - the problem with cutting services is that maintenance is not done and then it's really expensive to repair/replace - very evident with roads.

[Iffy's Onion Bhaji]

Are you serious ?
Get the Country back in debt with their wasteful spending plans.
Please no..... Every time that shower get in they leave the Country in a bigger mess than when they takeover.

Yep. I for one never have and never will vote Labour. Clueless mongs. The rest aren't much better though.

[Ardiles]

putting right services and making improvements costs money.
It's a vicious circle at the moment as the Tories close things down and sell things off to balance the books, then Labour spend years repairing the damage. They then get ousted and the Tories sell off and cut back again.

That did make me smile.  The idea that Labour is out there repairing damage is extraordinary, surely?  They took a wrecking ball to the economy.  Heart is in more or less the right place, maybe, but they were and - so far as I can tell - still are economically incompetent.

The damage they inflicted economically is going to take years to put right.  I'm no fan of Tory austerity, but neither can I see much of an alternative, sadly.

[Christy]

I was born in a shitty estate (Blackbird Leys), and spent my first 7 years there.
I still have relatives there.

The older ones won't even go out during the dark, and so are virtual prisoners in their houses for most of the winter.

Virtually all of the working class residents want the police to sort the place out, and get rid of the scum bags, but all the Labour councilors do is stick up for the rights of the crack heads and thieves.

The labour party has totally lost touch with what it is like to live in these places, because it has become the party of the fucking champagne socialists, who refer to their old core support as "Chavs"

They haven't represented the white working class for about twenty years.

I won't be voting UKIP, because I don't need to, but I can fully understand why the abandoned working class will vote for them in huge numbers

Just for a little balance, here's the Blackbird Leys council election result from a few weeks ago:

The Conservative Party   27   
Trade Unionist and Socialist Coalition   13   
Liberal Democrat   11   
Green Party   21   
UK Independence Party   91   
Labour Party   509

Make your own minds up as to who's totally lost touch.

[DarloSTFC84]

 

[ghanimah]

Just for a little balance, here's the Blackbird Leys council election result from a few weeks ago:

The Conservative Party   27   
Trade Unionist and Socialist Coalition   13   
Liberal Democrat   11   
Green Party   21   
UK Independence Party   91   
Labour Party   509

Make your own minds up as to who's totally lost touch.

On a turnout of 15.7%...

http://www.oxford.gov.uk/PageRender/decCD/Election_results_occw.htm

[Red Frog]

So yes, the French system (like other European healthcare systems) delivers fantastic service, but it's at the price of a huge public deficit + huge private contributions. For all that, I still think the system answers requirements better than than the NHS, that people without a point of comparison have been brainwashed into thinking is the mother of all healthcare systems.

[Christy]

That did make me smile.  The idea that Labour is out there repairing damage is extraordinary, surely?  They took a wrecking ball to the economy.  Heart is in more or less the right place, maybe, but they were and - so far as I can tell - still are economically incompetent.

The damage they inflicted economically is going to take years to put right.  I'm no fan of Tory austerity, but neither can I see much of an alternative, sadly.

Out of interest, did you feel the same during what i think was the longest period of sustained economic growth that this country has ever had - from the later Major years, all the way through Blair and into Brown?

And if so, who do you hold responsible for the crippling early 90s recession and Cameron's unique double dip?  Labour's wrecking ball again?

[Ardiles]

Out of interest, did you feel the same during what i think was the longest period of sustained economic growth that this country has ever had - from the later Major years, all the way through Blair and into Brown?

At the time, no.  I enjoyed the 'benefit' like everyone else.  But we all found out, to our cost, in the years that followed that the 'sustained economic growth' was completely unsustainable.  A giant bubble, fuelled by debt and household spending.  It was not my job to spot this.  It was the government's.  They failed.

And if so, who do you hold responsible for the crippling early 90s recession...

The Tories.

...and Cameron's unique double dip?

Labour.

Labour's wrecking ball again?

Pls see above.

[Arriba]

That did make me smile.  The idea that Labour is out there repairing damage is extraordinary, surely?  They took a wrecking ball to the economy.  Heart is in more or less the right place, maybe, but they were and - so far as I can tell - still are economically incompetent.

The damage they inflicted economically is going to take years to put right.  I'm no fan of Tory austerity, but neither can I see much of an alternative, sadly.

No. They did a pretty good job of repairing the services that the Tories ruined. The Tories are doing the same thing again now with their attacks on almost everything.
The financial world recession would have happened regardless of who was in government.

[Abrahammer]

The damage they inflicted economically is going to take years to put right.  I'm no fan of Tory austerity, but neither can I see much of an alternative, sadly.

Yep, had to be done unfortunately and will continue to have to be.

Was never going to be popular and the Tories have unfairly penalised certain sectors of society more so than others. They inherited one big mess though and it was never going to be pretty to sort out.

[Samdy Gray]

The financial world recession would have happened regardless of who was in government.

It would.

But the implications of a Labour government trying to spend their way out of it would've been catastrophic.

[horlock07]

At the time, no.  I enjoyed the 'benefit' like everyone else.  But we all found out, to our cost, in the years that followed that the 'sustained economic growth' was completely unsustainable.  A giant bubble, fuelled by debt and household spending.  It was not my job to spot this.  It was the government's.  They failed.

The response to the financial crisis from Labour  (and I suspect the Tories would have been exactly the same so I am not singling Labour ) out just summed up how clueless and more depressing patronising politicians have become

C.12 years of growth were apparently singularly down to Labours frugal policies  (I will gloss over the sale of the gold), but the minute the wheels fall off and the shit hits the fan  it becomes an international problem they have no control over!

We are not stupid, the fact that you treat us thus just shows the disdain politicians have for the public!

[Arriba]

Hasn't the nations debts risen under the current condem coalition?

[horlock07]

No. They did a pretty good job of repairing the services that the Tories ruined. The Tories are doing the same thing again now with their attacks on almost everything.
The financial world recession would have happened regardless of who was in government.

As did the financial boom that preceded it?