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« Reply #13260 on: Sunday, May 26, 2024, 13:44:41 »

I saw this posted, if true sums it up

Govt says National Service will give kids "opportunities".

It can be military or civilian service - but only military will be paid.

So only kids from wealthy families can do civilian.

So only they will get opportunities. Poor kids will be digging latrines and being shot at.
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« Reply #13261 on: Sunday, May 26, 2024, 15:38:57 »

I saw this posted, if true sums it up

Govt says National Service will give kids "opportunities".

It can be military or civilian service - but only military will be paid.

So only kids from wealthy families can do civilian.

So only they will get opportunities. Poor kids will be digging latrines and being shot at.

What a load of tosh. Itís to give life experience and I donít see what the issue is they have it in many countries and even France do it. Why always are those on here having a pop at the well off - many of them have worked very hard to get where they are BTW
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« Reply #13262 on: Sunday, May 26, 2024, 16:17:18 »

What a load of tosh. Itís to give life experience and I donít see what the issue is they have it in many countries and even France do it. Why always are those on here having a pop at the well off - many of them have worked very hard to get where they are BTW

Ok, but why only being paid for the life experience if itís military service?
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« Reply #13263 on: Sunday, May 26, 2024, 16:37:44 »

National service at 18 is bollocks without the details anyway.

They aren't going to make students do it are they? They need paid work to make ends meet thanks to the fucked up vision Blair started and the lib Dems finished off

Apprentices. Surely they are better served with life skills by doing life.

Those in employment. As above

Very much doubt it'll be for many people at all.

Certainly not a Swedish model, though even there not everyone does it these days.

It certainly can be beneficial for some - I've seen that with Swedish relatives. But not all.
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« Reply #13264 on: Sunday, May 26, 2024, 20:31:37 »

I actually think itís a good idea they have it in Denmark where my friends live and itís popular
In Denmark though there is so much more of a social contract that the youth have with the country, rather than here where they're treated with such contempt. In the Denmark solution, they are paid and once they get back they have free university education to continue on with.

Here it will be unpaid Labour, little prospects afterwards because the armed forces have been completely depleted by this government and extortionate university fees if they wish to continue on with education. And after all that, they'll probably still keep being told they're the problem. What I would do for this country to be ran anything like Denmark.
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« Reply #13265 on: Sunday, May 26, 2024, 22:48:39 »

There are three guarantees if this notion was to go through {it won't}:

a} It'll cost way more than any government national service elsewhere and will conveniently probably line the pockets of some chums who provide the setting up of the service via some ''private'' entity - that will appear overnight {never seen that before have we}

b} The taxpayer will have to fund the whole lot

c} It'll be an absolutely wank and disorganised chaotic program

They'll blame it on one or all of:

a} Nurses

b} Police Officers

c} Firefighters
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« Reply #13266 on: Monday, May 27, 2024, 05:31:41 »

I guess I could have put this anywhere in the forum. But here will do for now.

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« Reply #13267 on: Monday, May 27, 2024, 05:49:36 »

I guess I could have put this anywhere in the forum. But here will do for now.


Sigh. It's not this at all. Don't have a problem with every solution, this one is just absolutely nuts. How dare people see through it
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« Reply #13268 on: Monday, May 27, 2024, 11:03:24 »

Anyone in favour of National Service shouldn't be allowed to vote IMO
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« Reply #13269 on: Monday, May 27, 2024, 11:26:53 »

Anyone in favour of National Service shouldn't be allowed to vote IMO
I think the tories coming out with this in the lead up to a general election basically proves they do not want to stay in power. Self foot shooting strategy.

Sunak is a fucking idiot and the conservatives show they are out of touch with the population entirely.
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« Reply #13270 on: Monday, May 27, 2024, 11:35:10 »

Anyone in favour of National Service shouldn't be allowed to vote IMO


DRS raised a good point earlier, majority of the people for it have never done it themselves anyway.
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« Reply #13271 on: Monday, May 27, 2024, 11:37:40 »


DRS raised a good point earlier, majority of the people for it have never done it themselves anyway.

The majority of the people who are for it have somehow convinced themselves that they are personally responsible for winning World War 2. Utterly bizarre.
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« Reply #13272 on: Monday, May 27, 2024, 12:27:10 »

Anyone in favour of National Service shouldn't be allowed to vote IMO

Well if it gets the hooded chavs off the street stealing stuff Iím all for it.
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« Reply #13273 on: Monday, May 27, 2024, 12:40:30 »

Well if it gets the hooded chavs off the street stealing stuff Iím all for it.

But they are the ones that won't do it, and we can't lock them up for refusing because the prisons are full (in fact we're letting people out early).
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« Reply #13274 on: Monday, May 27, 2024, 12:42:39 »

But they are the ones that won't do it, and we can't lock them up for refusing because the prisons are full (in fact we're letting people out early).

But they could make the fuckers work tho🤣
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