Let's Get Political!

[normy]

I'm waiting to see if any candidate speaks out in favour of securing our energy supply security, by pushing for shale gas development, North Sea oil investment, the new coal mine for our steel industry, and my belief that the zero net carbon date should be sensibly delayed as we have to live now and the   green scheme is not working in practice for many reasons.  Our 1% of global CO2 emissions has very little effect when for example China has so many coal fired stations.  
 
I don't expect anything from the Tories on this subject.

[Nemo]

I'm waiting to see if any candidate speaks out in favour of securing our energy supply security, by pushing for shale gas development, North Sea oil investment, the new coal mine for our steel industry, and my belief that the zero net carbon date should be sensibly delayed as we have to live now and the   green scheme is not working in practice for many reasons.  Our 1% of global CO2 emissions has very little effect when for example China has so many coal fired stations. 
 
I don't expect anything from the Tories on this subject.

Several of the more right wing candidates have openly called for net zero to be binned or at least ignored for a bit, notably Badenoch and Braverman.

Personally I think that's dangerously unhinged policy, but if it's what you want in a candidate, it's on offer.

[Batch]

Javid bites the dust

Government blocks Labour vote of no confidence 🐔

[horlock07]

Well there you go.... https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-no-confidence-vote-conservatives-b2122159.html 

[mystical_goat]

It's got to be between Sunak and Mordaunt and I think Mordaunt might pip it. Sunak has been too brand heavy, putting his signatures on PR photos with no mention of the Conservatives. That and some other things haven't gone down well. Like Nemo said, Mordaunt has a bit of support but it might not quite be enough.

[adje]

Well there you go.... https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-no-confidence-vote-conservatives-b2122159.html  

To be honest,I've never really understood the accusation of "playing politics". Like accusing a footballer of "playing football"

[dalumpimunki]

To be honest,I've never really understood the accusation of "playing politics". Like accusing a footballer of "playing football"

The only appropriate response to that accusation is "well yes that's sort of all our jobs".

[Nemo]

Braverman out of the running, Tugendhat actively losing support from the first round. Final two will almost certainly be two of Sunak, Mordaunt and Truss.

There are debates on over the weekend ahead of the next round of voting, which could change things I suppose if someone has an absolute shocker (money on Truss, who is not a great public speaker).

[dalumpimunki]

Braverman out of the running, Tugendhat actively losing support from the first round. Final two will almost certainly be two of Sunak, Mordaunt and Truss.

There are debates on over the weekend ahead of the next round of voting, which could change things I suppose if someone has an absolute shocker (money on Truss, who is not a great public speaker).

I wouldn't be so sure of that. Badenoch is likely to Hoover up most of the RW lunatic fringe votes from Braverman, which will put her ahead of Truss.

Where the Tugendhat votes go, when he's axed tomorrow will be interesting. I'm guessing Sunak is likely to be the least objectionable to those mps. I can't see Truss or Badenoch picking up any from him, but some might break Mordaunts way.

So next 2 rounds

S- 110ish then 135ish
M - 85ish then 90ish
B - 75ish then unchanged
LT - 64 then unchanged
TH - 30ish then out

The question after that is where Trusses votes go. Will enough go to Badenoch for her to overhaul PM4PM and give the membership the choice between Slick Rick and a genuine right wing loon who doesn't seem to have cottoned on to the fact that culture war appeals to the most reactionary elements of the electorate are unlikely to play quite so well coming from a black woman.

Let's hope so. Penny can almost play a human being for sustained periods of time and might be able to actually appeal to the public a bit.

[Abrahammer]

Mordant has a decent rack, important to factor that in

[4D]

  

[horlock07]

Mordant has a decent rack, important to factor that in

She does, and in January I put a bet on her becoming Con leader before the end of 2022, so I am PM4PM.

[Nemo]

Where the Tugendhat votes go, when he's axed tomorrow will be interesting.

No voting today, next round on Monday, so two debates before the next round - which is presumably why TT is still in.

[Nemo]

Truss v Sunak it is then, announcement 5th September. I can't say that the idea of either as PM fills me with joy, although Sunak feels less likely to accidentally nuke Edinburgh.

[Batch]

Fucking hell, both Johnson enablers.

The economy went to shit under Sunak's watch. Covid indeed was a fair response. The cost of liviing crisis not so.

And Truss. a Pork Markets, Dogs scare away drones Thatcher wannabe.

Yippee.