Let's Get Political!

[Bennett]

Raab had a bash at it this morning, not very convincingly, but he tried bless him

[Legends-Lounge]

Oooo, a Labour paedo. Well, well, well.

[Shrivvy Road]

Oooo, a Labour paedo. Well, well, well.

And this here is what is wrong with politics and it's followers. A paedo is a paedo an absolute abhorrent sick cunt but still it's fun enough to use as a dig at someone you don't like. Fucking pathetic tbh

[Quagmire]

Oooo, a Labour paedo. Well, well, well.

You are very late to the party, he was found guilty a month ago.

[Red Frog]

Is the Jason Spacey who gets a credit at the end of the latest Toryboy mashup our alumnus?

[Boy About Town]

Russia attacking Ukraine from multiple borders and angles. This will get messy. Putin comparable to Hitler.

[Nemo]

Suspect it's probably a new thread, but it's just very depressing. It's been coming for months now, but the actual sight of it (and the cynical nature of Putin's Declaration of War being recorded three days ago) is just... a bit numbing I suppose.

As for the impact on UK domestic politics, it would be good if this leads to a more sensible debate on Russian money in London and in (mostly but not exclusively) Conservative party funding. This sort of thing is why I'm generally in favour of public funding for political parties, even though it feels a bit weird to do it.

[normy]

I never thought there would ever be a major invasion in Europe in my lifetime.  So much like how Hitler started his catastrophe.

[Bob's Orange]

What is Putin hoping to gain from this? Simply put, is he literally looking for Russian to eventually take over Ukraine in some kind of power hungry land grab?

[Batch]

trying to recreate the USSR one assumes. or the beneficial bits of it

and there's not much the world can do other than sanction and watch. escalation can't happen against the world's second largest military power

[Wobbly Bob]

Strange that a UN authorized coalition was mobilized when a sovereign patch of sand was invaded in 1990.

Not this time it would seem.

[Batch]

Strange that a UN authorized coalition was mobilized when a sovereign patch of sand was invaded in 1990.

Not this time it would seem.

well, they didn't have a massive army and a nuclear arsenal did they

[Wobbly Bob]

well, they didn't have a massive army and a nuclear arsenal did they

It's a pity that Ukraine membership of NATO wasn't fast tracked.
At least the Baltic states can rest easy.

[horlock07]

trying to recreate the USSR one assumes. or the beneficial bits of it

and there's not much the world can do other than sanction and watch. escalation can't happen against the world's second largest military power

Sadly it had similar trends to 21st century UK politics, a nationalist cult harking back to an apparently glorious past that never actually existed, for British Empire read USSR.

Whether deliberately or by lucky accident Putin has played a very successful long game, got 4 years of the fairly benign (towards Russia) Trump into the US then got Brexit to economically and diplomatically wreak the UK and reduce the influence of the EU then got a compliant fool into government in UK whose main funding is almost entirely Russian sourced, all money well spent.

There are ways that sanctions could bite, but will the governments of many western states who own existence and economies are very dependent upon Roubles actually act?

[Bob's Orange]

And whilst sanctions are obviously realistically the only way we can go with Russia, the real losers here are the innocent Russian people who are going to suffer as the Russian economy takes a massive hit down the line!