Maggie dies

[Arriba]

Her decisions put many on benefits. In many cases whole communities. Things were a damn site harder for those on benefits then too. My siblings and I relied on hand downs and jumble sales during the years inbetween my step dad finding work. I remember the jumble sales at Pinehurst school(the estate and school I spent my primary years at) and they were full of people buying items with the small change in their pockets. Hard times.

Training programmes and support for families wasn't there then either. Thatcher didn't bother with those who despised her. She didn't believe in a society,it was survival of the fittest,fuck the rest of them.
Those people shat on still despise her after her death. She is the main reason I will never vote Tory as I remember living with nothing. That cunt Camoron worshiped her and is just as much as a cunt(albeit a wet cunt)

[jonny72]

Her decisions put many on benefits. In many cases whole communities.

What were the other options to the mine closures?

They were inefficient, losing money and reliant upon Government subsidies. The same applied to various other industries, drastic action needed to be taken and if Maggie hadn't done it who would? The unions also needed bringing under control, which they brought upon themselves following their behaviour in the 70's when they continually brought the entire country to a standstill.

It wasn't nice for those affected but it was a necessary evil as the country needed fixing - something which even most of the Labour front bench for the last 20 years wouldn't deny.

[chalkies_shorts]

What were the other options to the mine closures?

They were inefficient, losing money and reliant upon Government subsidies.

Reminds me of the bankers

[Bogus Dave]

I always figured it wasn't so much the closures, more so the lack of any real support or anything afterwards

[Paolo69]

They were inefficient, losing money and reliant upon Government subsidies.

Reminds me of the bankers

Better give them a bonus then.

[thepeoplesgame]

It wasn't nice for those affected but it was a necessary evil as the country needed fixing

Is the country fixed then? Could have fooled me.

[Arriba]

What were the other options to the mine closures?

They were inefficient, losing money and reliant upon Government subsidies. The same applied to various other industries, drastic action needed to be taken and if Maggie hadn't done it who would? The unions also needed bringing under control, which they brought upon themselves following their behaviour in the 70's when they continually brought the entire country to a standstill.

It wasn't nice for those affected but it was a necessary evil as the country needed fixing - something which even most of the Labour front bench for the last 20 years wouldn't deny.

could have kept them open. The stock piling of coal was all planned as they wanted the strikes to happen. The union thing is a myth. They were there to protect workforces. Removing them and blaming them t was to make things easier to impliment without unions fighting for rights. Breaking unions made it easier to destroy industry and privatize public services.

[Paolo69]

Breaking unions made it easier to destroy industry and privatize public services.

Yep, many of which we still subsidise even today.

[jonny72]

could have kept them open. The stock piling of coal was all planned as they wanted the strikes to happen. The union thing is a myth. They were there to protect workforces. Removing them and blaming them t was to make things easier to impliment without unions fighting for rights. Breaking unions made it easier to destroy industry and privatize public services.

Who was going to pay the subsidies to keep them open? You honestly think it's right that the rest of the country's non-union workforce pay higher taxes to keep inefficient, militant, union controlled, loss making industries going?

What union thing is a myth? That they continually crippled the country in the 70's? That they used strikes to blackmail the country in to giving in to their demands? That they were antiquated organisations that needed bringing up to date? They weren't there to protect workforces, they were there solely to protect the interests of their members whilst not giving a toss about the rest of the country.

Maggie wanted to take on the unions, she laid a trap for the miners and Scargill walked straight in to it. Don't see how you can blame her for other peoples stupidity - Scargill miscalculated and the miners paid the price. They didn't have to go down the route they did, no one forced them.

[ron dodgers]

Nice. 

thank you - I am

[Levi lapper]

Her decisions put many on benefits. In many cases whole communities. Things were a damn site harder for those on benefits then too. My siblings and I relied on hand downs and jumble sales during the years inbetween my step dad finding work. I remember the jumble sales at Pinehurst school(the estate and school I spent my primary years at) and they were full of people buying items with the small change in their pockets. Hard times.

Training programmes and support for families wasn't there then either. Thatcher didn't bother with those who despised her. She didn't believe in a society,it was survival of the fittest,fuck the rest of them.
Those people shat on still despise her after her death. She is the main reason I will never vote Tory as I remember living with nothing. That cunt Camoron worshiped her and is just as much as a cunt(albeit a wet cunt)

She was also the reason we have such a dependency on benefits culture now. The DSS were told to get people off off the dole on to incapacity benefit, basically telling blokes in their 40s they would never work again just so they wouldn't appear on the unemployed total as they were medically retired.

I think her funeral should be put out to tender and the cheapest bidder wins it, in the spirit of the free market.

[Peter Gibbons]

Her decisions put many on benefits. In many cases whole communities. Things were a damn site harder for those on benefits then too. My siblings and I relied on hand downs and jumble sales during the years inbetween my step dad finding work. I remember the jumble sales at Pinehurst school(the estate and school I spent my primary years at) and they were full of people buying items with the small change in their pockets. Hard times.

Training programmes and support for families wasn't there then either. Thatcher didn't bother with those who despised her. She didn't believe in a society,it was survival of the fittest,fuck the rest of them.
Those people shat on still despise her after her death. She is the main reason I will never vote Tory as I remember living with nothing. That cunt Camoron worshiped her and is just as much as a cunt(albeit a wet cunt)

But isn't that a famous example of a quote being taken out of context?  If you hear the whole thing it is clear she is not saying there is no such thing as society per se, she is just saying society is a collection of individuals and families all making their own personal decisions and helping each other out.  Seems a reasonable comment to me.

[leefer]

Who the fuck would want there kids to work down the mines anyway?

Should have been done a lot slower and with more compasion....but closing them took us out of the dark ages...literally.

She won three elections....easily.

Lot of myth on how unpopular she was....to greedy union men lining there own pockets and the such she was.

My bet is most people celebrating her death are out of work socialist thinking people...who wasn't even alive when she ran the country.....not to mention low life scum the like of who started the riots last year..

Did i vote for her...no.....but she had more bollox than all the Prime Ministers since....labour and Tory.

[Reg Smeeton]

She won three elections....easily.

Thatcher won the 1979 election on the back of a carefully orchestrated campaign against Labour based on strikes in the public sector, and unemployment which stood at 1.4 mill....the infamous Labour Isn't Working slogan.

Now though,  what happened was the split in Labour and formation of the SDP, which by the time of the Malvinas War, had a massive lead in opinion polls over both parties....Liberal had taken a hit over the Jeremy Thorpe scandal.

It was victory in the South Atlantic, and the split in the left/centrist parties, which handed Thatcher an opportunity to pursue the worst elements of her programme, and gain two further victories.

To quote Alexei Sayle...what do you think of Shirley Williams?....I want to go to the toilet.

[Fred Elliot]

Who the fuck would want there kids to work down the mines anyway?

Should have been done a lot slower and with more compasion....but closing them took us out of the dark ages...literally.

She won three elections....easily.

Lot of myth on how unpopular she was....to greedy union men lining there own pockets and the such she was.

My bet is most people celebrating her death are out of work socialist thinking people...who wasn't even alive when she ran the country.....not to mention low life scum the like of who started the riots last year..

Did i vote for her...no.....but she had more bollox than all the Prime Ministers since....labour and Tory.

Well said Lee