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« Reply #60 on: Wednesday, January 23, 2013, 13:58:57 » |
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There's a theory that player wages trickle down the leagues. The higher they are in the top flight, the higher they are at the bottom.
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« Reply #61 on: Wednesday, January 23, 2013, 14:01:39 » |
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BRADFORD CITY CHEATS!
Bradford City have been in administration twice since 2002, and had been expected to overspend on wages by £600,000 this season as they push for promotion to League One.
Absolutely disgusting. Think of the clubs that play by the books and live within their means. Bradford gambled on a cup run and got lucky. cheats
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« Reply #62 on: Wednesday, January 23, 2013, 14:20:52 » |
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Personally, I think 11,500 to 12,000 would be nearer the mark...pushing on towards 14,000 or 15,000 with investment in the Club's infrastructure, particularly the stadium. If it's possible in Swansea and Reading, it's possible in Swindon.
I did an analysis of our attendances and those of the Championship, going back about 15 years or so. I came to the same number, there would be potential to go above that but it would need a bigger ground to take advantage of the higher attendances for the games against the biggest clubs. But with a new/rebuilt 30k capacity stadium, regular Championship football and Paolo in charge, who knows - it worked and turned out well for other clubs.
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« Reply #63 on: Wednesday, January 23, 2013, 14:43:53 » |
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God knows we've done this to death, but I disagree. We are averaging 8,400 this season. We would add 1,000+ to the average gate simply because of the larger away attendances brought by the bigger Championship clubs. (If you think that home support would be largely unaffected by promotion to the Championship, you're probably about right with your 10,000 estimate.)
Personally, I think 11,500 to 12,000 would be nearer the mark...pushing on towards 14,000 or 15,000 with investment in the Club's infrastructure, particularly the stadium. If it's possible in Swansea and Reading, it's possible in Swindon.
Would like to agree with you here and always use Reading as an example of growing crowds. Back in 70's and 80's they had smaller crowds than us so what was the business model ? Along the lines of investment. Live in hope. We need to own the ground and bring in new revenue streams.
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« Reply #64 on: Wednesday, January 23, 2013, 16:38:06 » |
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Did i read somewhere that in terms of population, Swindon has one of the largest catchment areas for fans, i know clubs like Carlisle don't have clubs anywhere nearby but they also don't have much population.
I had raised the point that Brighton are averaging around 25k, but this was countered by others mentioning Hove and Lewes etc which feed into that catchment, but i still think that Swindon can sustain better crowds?
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« Reply #65 on: Wednesday, January 23, 2013, 16:49:30 » |
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Did i read somewhere that in terms of population, Swindon has one of the largest catchment areas for fans, i know clubs like Carlisle don't have clubs anywhere nearby but they also don't have much population.
I had raised the point that Brighton are averaging around 25k, but this was countered by others mentioning Hove and Lewes etc which feed into that catchment, but i still think that Swindon can sustain better crowds?
I think it was 300k catchment area
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« Reply #66 on: Wednesday, January 23, 2013, 17:23:39 » |
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The population of Reading borough is 150,000. Swindon borough is 210,000.
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Peter Venkman
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« Reply #67 on: Wednesday, January 23, 2013, 17:25:39 » |
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Well, we know where we're goin' But we don't know where we've been And we know what we're knowin' But we can't say what we've seen And we're not little children And we know what we want And the future is certain Give us time to work it out
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« Reply #68 on: Wednesday, January 23, 2013, 17:31:24 » |
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The population of Reading borough is 150,000. Swindon borough is 210,000.
While technically correct, the comparison means very little. Reading Borough administers only a fraction of the town's urban area, where as Swindon Borough administers almost all of urban Swindon (barring a few streets in the far NW). Much of S & SE Reading is administered by Wokingham Borough and a slice of the far west of Reading falls in to West Berkshire. You only have to take a look at a map to see that the Reading urban area is bigger than Swindon's. Not only that, but its hinterland is much more densely populated as well.
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« Reply #69 on: Wednesday, January 23, 2013, 17:40:06 » |
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While technically correct, the comparison means very little. Reading Borough administers only a fraction of the town's urban area, where as Swindon Borough administers almost all of urban Swindon (barring a few streets in the far NW). Much of S & SE Reading is administered by Wokingham Borough and a slice of the far west of Reading falls in to West Berkshire. You only have to take a look at a map to see that the Reading urban area is bigger than Swindon's. Not only that, but its hinterland is much more densely populated as well.
But equally don't Reading have a number of league teams nearer than we do and thus 'sharing' this potential supporter population (if that makes sense - although I can only think of Wycombe off the top of my head, so that argument may be rubbish!)
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« Reply #70 on: Wednesday, January 23, 2013, 20:45:51 » |
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Reading don't really. The big draw used to be Southampton and Chelsea/wes london clubs
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