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Dirk Diggler

« Reply #60 on: Sunday, May 22, 2011, 19:35:29 »

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FFS What a subject for a football forum. Not even bothered to read the thread. Slow day at home was it?
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Don Rogers Shop

« Reply #61 on: Sunday, May 22, 2011, 19:36:54 »

Do you believe in science.

I don't mean absolute faith that science is perfect. I just mean that do you believe science has the best possible answers to the questions that we have on where we come from, space, time, the big bang and all that shizzle? I mean that although we know so little, science is doing its best and is the best answer to those difficult questions that we have RIGHT NOW.
Yeah i do agree with science it is clearly the way of explaining the world in my opinion. I would like to think though that by me being not stupid enough to believe in the burning in hell etc as barry says and and just being able to take certain aspects of what i was taught in regards to religion into everyday life it doesn't hurt.

Fwiw i don't believe in god as such it's hard to explain really but i do believe it's ok to have faith in the religion.
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BANGKOK RED

« Reply #62 on: Sunday, May 22, 2011, 19:37:05 »

I think that the bible is made up is common knowledge. I believe it was the Roman Emporer Constantine who was about when it was re-written, just a bunch of stories put together to please the masses at that time.

Easter, for example, is a pagan festival. It was just written into the bible at the time to keep the pagans happy.
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Don Rogers Shop

« Reply #63 on: Sunday, May 22, 2011, 19:38:39 »

FFS What a subject for a football forum. Not even bothered to read the thread. Slow day at home was it?
Very slow thanks. I believe this is in the general discussion bit though.Is that lost on you?

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BANGKOK RED

« Reply #64 on: Sunday, May 22, 2011, 19:40:05 »

but i do believe it's ok to have faith in the religion.

By that do you mean belief in god or a way of life?
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« Reply #65 on: Sunday, May 22, 2011, 19:40:57 »

Surely religion was born to answer the questions that couldn't be answered at the time. It is only relatively recently that we've been able to scientifically explain things, such as evolution the big bang and all that shit. Those explanations weren't there thousands of years ago so they came up with one, religion.

But then i guess you'd have to ask why so many millions/billions of people around the world still believe it even in the face of science being able to explain quite a lot? They must have some spiritual feelings or something that makes them believe in God.

And then you can also go right down to the foundations of science, we still don't know what happened at the big bang or what was around before it, or why it happened and who did it?! Science can explain how something has happened, not why it happened or who instigated it, if anyone.
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Don Rogers Shop

« Reply #66 on: Sunday, May 22, 2011, 19:41:35 »

Way of life.
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Dirk Diggler

« Reply #67 on: Sunday, May 22, 2011, 19:42:59 »

Very slow thanks. I believe this is in the general discussion bit though.Is that lost on you?

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Not lost, just thought that it is a pretty boring and pointless question. As a consequence I will leave you to your discussion
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« Reply #68 on: Sunday, May 22, 2011, 19:43:13 »

say there is a god,which god is the real one? they can't all exist can they?
if there are more than one they'd bound to be blowing the shit out of each other and fighting innit?
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BANGKOK RED

« Reply #69 on: Sunday, May 22, 2011, 19:44:24 »

Way of life.

Well there's obviously nothing bad about a way of life where people treat each other with respect and stuff, it's better for your girl than a lot of alternatives.

But I still stand by my statement that my girl won't need some book to know right from wrong (that's not intended as a dig)
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« Reply #70 on: Sunday, May 22, 2011, 19:48:04 »

say there is a god,which god is the real one? they can't all exist can they?
if there are more than one they'd bound to be blowing the shit out of each other and fighting innit?

the God muslims, christians, jews and sikhs believe in is the same one. Religions like hinduism believe in many, so i guess you can't really explain that. I'm not sure if hinduism has a religious book or what it's origins are though?
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BANGKOK RED

« Reply #71 on: Sunday, May 22, 2011, 19:48:40 »

But

As a father. If my girl came home talking about stuff that I thought was nonsense, I would definitely put a stop to it there and then.

And I do find myself having to do it from time to time.
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« Reply #72 on: Sunday, May 22, 2011, 19:52:04 »

But

As a father. If my girl came home talking about stuff that I thought was nonsense, I would definitely put a stop to it there and then.

And I do find myself having to do it from time to time.

Would you mind if she decided to become Christian when she was older as she gets mature enough to make her own decision? Is it just that they teach it at a young age that bothers you?
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« Reply #73 on: Sunday, May 22, 2011, 19:53:01 »

say there is a god,which god is the real one? they can't all exist can they?
if there are more than one they'd bound to be blowing the shit out of each other and fighting innit?

Like someone once said, "We're all atheists in the eyes of another religion. I just happen to believe in one less god than you."
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« Reply #74 on: Sunday, May 22, 2011, 19:57:14 »

But

As a father. If my girl came home talking about stuff that I thought was nonsense, I would definitely put a stop to it there and then.

And I do find myself having to do it from time to time.

So it's wrong for someone else (i.e. a school) to 'impose' beliefs on your daughter, but it's ok for you to?

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